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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:50:03 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: White House Plays Down Data Program Message-ID: <p06240813cdda7eaafa19@[10.0.1.13]> White House Plays Down Data Program By JONATHAN WEISMAN and DAVID E. SANGER June 8, 2013 WASHINGTON - The Obama administration tried Saturday to marshal new evidence in defense of its collection of private Internet and telephone data, arguing that a secret program called Prism is simply an "internal government computer system" designed to sort through court-supervised collection of data, and that Congress has been briefed 13 times on the programs since 2009. After rushing to declassify some carefully selected descriptions of the programs, James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, conceded for the first time that the Prism program existed. But in a statement, after denouncing the leak of the data to The Guardian and The Washington Post, Mr. Clapper insisted it was "not an undisclosed collection or data mining program." Instead, he said it was a computer system to "facilitate" the collection of foreign intelligence that had been authorized by Congress. ... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/us/politics/officials-say-congress-was-fully-briefed-on-surveillance.html?pagewanted=all
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 00:40:12 -0400 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Cellco cheating with Prepaid? Message-ID: <MPG.2c1f22b9efe9fb0e989e08@news.eternal-september.org> In article <kot90m$56o$1@reader1.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says... > > In <1370529355.30421.YahooMailClassic@web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> writes: > > > This is in contrast to the way some operators work. In Canada (on > > Fido) for postpaid service you are charged exact billing and only are > > charged for actual off-hook time. This is also the norm for many > > foreign GSM operators. I'm guessing that send-to-end billing is a > > remnant of analog mobile calling since (I'm guessing) there was no > > "supervision" available for analog systems. > > > The domestic operators saw no reason to change the system since it > > helped them make more revenue even though with today's sophisticated > > systems exact billing is easily possible. i > > Omnipoint used to charge from answer to "end". They switched > to "send to end" (rounded up to the minute [a]) very roughly > five years ago. (Which is probably ten by now...). > > [a] With the notable exception of Nextel, which used to > round up to the tenth of a minute (six seconds), all major > US carriers have always done full minute segments. Then again, > so did AT&T in the wired phone days. > > > --- > _____________________________________________________ > Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key > dannyb@panix.com > [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] > > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > ISTR that the one-minute billing increments were a result of the > mechanical time-recording and reporting systems of the > manual-cord-board days. > > Bill Horne > Moderator Interesting about OmniPoint - they switch to VoiceStream and then got sold off to T-Mobil. Now T-Mobil bought MetroPCS so I'm once again going to be with Ominpoint/VS/T-Mobil.
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:52:00 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Credibility Crunch for Tech Companies Over Prism Message-ID: <p06240814cdda7f16136e@[10.0.1.13]> Credibility Crunch for Tech Companies Over Prism By AMIR EFRATI, SHIRA OVIDE and EVELYN M. RUSLI June 8, 2013 With Silicon Valley's credibility in protecting consumer privacy on the line, many of the largest Web companies on Friday emphasized they aren't giving the U.S. government a direct pipe into their networks as part of a secret program to monitor foreign nationals. But the denials of involvement by Google Inc., Microsoft Corp. and others, which come at the same time the Obama administration confirmed the existence of such a program, raised questions about how data is ending up in the hands of the government. The issues are especially acute for companies who make their business by collecting and processing customers' most personal data and secrets. Google CEO Larry Page and Chief Legal Officer David Drummond said in a blog post that the company doesn't give U.S. government investigators "open-ended access" to its network and hadn't "joined" a program known as Prism and run by the National Security Agency. The executives said Google only hands over data based on legally-authorized requests that it reviews individually. U.S. officials briefed on the matter said Friday that the NSA receives copies of data through a system they set up with a court order. They don't have direct access to the company computers, those people said. ... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324798904578531672407107306.html ***** Moderator's Note ***** "Most personal data and secrets"? The Wall Street Journal used to have a higher standard for its reportage: now, it seems, it has sunk to the fear-based marketing and hype used by television news to sell soap. Is the Wall Street Journal now advertising soap? Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:16:26 +0000 (UTC) From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Credibility Crunch for Tech Companies Over Prism Message-ID: <kp51la$2o2o$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu> In article <p06240814cdda7f16136e@[10.0.1.13]>, Bill Horne added: >"Most personal data and secrets"? The Wall Street Journal used to have >a higher standard for its reportage: now, it seems, it has sunk to the >fear-based marketing and hype used by television news to sell soap. Seems pretty accurate to me. I think you're a bit out of touch with how people (especially those younger than you or I) use online services. Most people are pretty oblivious to the privacy implications of handing all their data over to an unaccountable third party (or if not oblivious, value convenience more than individual liberty). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:34:17 -0400 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Credibility Crunch for Tech Companies Over Prism Message-ID: <20130610213416.GA2162@telecom.csail.mit.edu> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 05:16:26PM +0000, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <p06240814cdda7f16136e@[10.0.1.13]>, > Bill Horne added: > > >"Most personal data and secrets"? The Wall Street Journal used to have > >a higher standard for its reportage: now, it seems, it has sunk to the > >fear-based marketing and hype used by television news to sell soap. > > Seems pretty accurate to me. I think you're a bit out of touch with > how people (especially those younger than you or I) use online > services. Most people are pretty oblivious to the privacy > implications of handing all their data over to an unaccountable third > party (or if not oblivious, value convenience more than individual > liberty). I don't count the gossip, celebrity worship, petty vendettas, or other material I've seen on email queues and facepage sites as being in any sense a "secret" or "personal"; AFAICT, it's just banal keyboarding done by self-absorbed children. The WSJ reporter hyped his story by pretending that anyone over the age of Thirty would care which child "hooked up" with which: it's the classic "Film at Eleven!" puffery that characterizes your local "If it bleeds, it leads" Eyewitless News. Bill -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly)
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:55:01 -0400 From: Ron <ron@see.below> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Cellco cheating with Prepaid? Message-ID: <4m8ar811r4tnkt9vboh9p8rbs22h2avto4@4ax.com> Frank Stearns <franks.pacifier.com@pacifier.net> wrote: >wrote to Tracfone CS today, requesting an itemized call log. Wow! What >an amazing set of requirements they demand to obtain such a list, even >though my old cell carriers and LD carriers provided that as a matter >of course. These extra hoops (and no online way to view the logs) adds >to the smell factor a bit. I'm really not surprised at the extra hoops you have to jump through. Your other lines were tied to you and your billing address. Your Tracfone is essentially anonymous. Anybody could be asking for that log. Not handing over your information to any random person who asks seems like a feature, not a bug. Proving you're entitled to the information is not so simple a task. -- Ron user rrcnom.de.plume in domain antichef.com
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:12:52 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Everyday risks: when statistics can't predict the future Message-ID: <p0624081ecdda83e132ed@[10.0.1.13]> Everyday risks: when statistics can't predict the future Statistics, it seems, can reveal our chances of being affected by anything from crime to serious illness. But number-crunching itself is a hazardous business Michael Blastland and David Spiegelhalter The Observer, Saturday 8 June 2013 We love data. For the past two years we have crunched numbers about dangers of every kind. And there are plenty of dangers about. But - a big but - we're certainly not calculating machines. In fact, if there were such a thing as a risk-calculating machine that claimed to give you objective odds on danger, we'd be the first to warn of malfunctions. That's partly because although we think the numbers matter, they can never be the final word: the stories people tell are big influences on their sense of where danger lies - and why shouldn't they be? - since neither source of evidence, neither numbers nor stories is perfect. Each has strengths and weaknesses. This is a perhaps surprising conclusion from writers at times almost geeky enough to have two hoods on our anoraks; that we think risk is seldom objective, nor solely a property of the world out there, but intimately bound up with our own perspectives, and so personal perspectives on danger are, usually, perfectly reasonable. More than that, we think they're essential. In fact, we think that one of the hazards with hazards is the way that some people use risk numbers almost as if they can foretell your fate. We prefer to think of risk as typically more like an uncertain bet on a horse using scraps of imperfect information mixed with your own judgment: the horse might come in. Or it might not? So there are plenty of ways in which our sense of risk can be distorted, plenty of ways in which people can get the dangers wrong, and plenty more in which the numbers can be deceptive, too. In the end, if we had to offer advice to the wary about risk, it would be to try to get to know the data that matter to you, get to know your own mind and the stories that influence you, and so learn how both stories and numbers can help? and deceive. Then do what you feel like. Here are just five more of the hazards about hazards. ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jun/09/risk-statistics-data-blastland-spiegelhalter
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:25:34 +0000 (UTC) From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Everyday risks: when statistics can't predict the future Message-ID: <kp526e$2o2o$3@grapevine.csail.mit.edu> In article <p0624081ecdda83e132ed@[10.0.1.13]>, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> quotes an Observer piece entitled: >Everyday risks: when statistics can't predict the future Of course, statistics can't predict the future. This is well-known to statisticians and philosophers (to whom it's known as "the problem of induction"), but apparently not to the fine sub-editors at the Observer. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:10:03 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Web tool assesses crime risk in an instant Message-ID: <p0624081dcdda835812f4@[10.0.1.13]> Web tool assesses crime risk in an instant By Mark Sullivan, CORRESPONDENT Sunday, June 9, 2013 WORCESTER - With the click of a mouse, there appears on the computer screen what looks like a weather map. Swirls of green and yellow and red resemble storm systems. This isn't a meteorologist's chart, but a map of relative crime risks across a swath of Worcester. Andrew Schiller, founder and chief executive officer of Location Inc., a big data analysis company, is demonstrating a new product that instantly can assess the security risks at any address in the country. The tool, called SecurityGauge, uses crime, geographic and demographic data from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies and other sources to produce a "holistic picture" of the risks at a given location within 10 meters in any direction. ... http://www.telegram.com/article/20130609/NEWS/306099983/1237 ***** Moderator's Note ***** Tools such as this one depend on accurate information for their success, and if a community chooses not to report crimes, then it will show an artificially low crime rate, and also a lowered "danger" rating. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:53:45 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Price-gouging cable companies are our latter-day robber barons Message-ID: <p06240815cdda7f6926e4@[10.0.1.13]> Price-gouging cable companies are our latter-day robber barons Monopolistic cable providers make internet access an unaffordable luxury for tens of millions of Americans Heidi Moore guardian.co.uk 4 June 2013 Last year, about 1% of American households cut off their internet service. That's not as surprising as experts may suggest. The internet - which promised to connect all Americans with everything from educational opportunities to Facebook status updates - has become, unfortunately, a luxury even for the middle class. Cable companies that have functioned as oligopolies have made it that way. Naturally, more Americans would cut off internet service considering how absurdly expensive it has become to pay to stay connected. The median income for a household in the United States is just over $50,000, which has to support a family with basics like food, mortgage or rent, a car and gas. Inflation has steadily driven up the price of food and gas, which has meant that American wages have actually dropped since the recession. School costs, healthcare and other costs mean many families depend on credit cards on occasion. That doesn't leave a lot of room for splashy purchases. Yet, strangely, internet access - which is a necessity in homes where children get their homework online and parents may telecommute - has become the splashiest purchase of all. In many big cities, internet access can easily become a budgetary sinkhole for families. Think of $100 a month for cable and internet, another $50 a month for a smartphone, $40 a month for an iPad or a similar device; if you travel, add $70 a month for some kind of wireless hotspot like Verizon's Mi-Fi. ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/04/price-gouging-cable-companies ***** Moderator's Note ***** Wow: I thought I was the only one who noticed. It's nice to see that the Guardian is still allowed to point out the obvious: this reminds me of when I was a teenager, and how I used to listen to the BBC shortwave broadcast to get the news. Of course, this begs the question of just how obvious the U.S. economic debacle is to the rest of the world. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Price-gouging cable companies are our latter-day robber barons Message-ID: <kp5211$2o2o$2@grapevine.csail.mit.edu> In article <p06240815cdda7f6926e4@[10.0.1.13]>, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> quoted Guardian journalist Heidi Moore, who wrote: >Yet, strangely, internet access - which is a necessity in homes where >children get their homework online and parents may telecommute - has >become the splashiest purchase of all. In many big cities, internet >access can easily become a budgetary sinkhole for families. Think of >$100 a month for cable and internet, another $50 a month for a >smartphone, $40 a month for an iPad or a similar device; if you >travel, add $70 a month for some kind of wireless hotspot like >Verizon's Mi-Fi. Most of these are not even remotely necessary. You can do totally do without "an iPad or a similar device" (I do), and while I don't travel as much as expense-account journos do, I have never had the need for a portable wireless hotspot. (If I did, I would turn on that function in my smartphone, which costs closer to $80 a month for a relatively minimal but unlimited-data postpaid plan.) I have cable, but television is not by any means a necessity of life. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
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