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The Telecom Digest for May 10, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 117 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Dutch Police Used TomTom's GPS Data To Target Speeders(Koos van den Hout)
Re: Dutch Police Used TomTom's GPS Data To Target Speeders(Pete Creswell)
Re: Looks like "fake caller ID" laws are about to get a boost(Lisa or Jeff)

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Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 12:35:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Koos van den Hout <koos+newsposting@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Dutch Police Used TomTom's GPS Data To Target Speeders     
Message-ID: <iq62n4$ft7$3@kzdoos.xs4all.nl>

David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@yahoo.com.au> wrote in <pan.2011.05.04.03.51.02.389487@yahoo.com.au>:
> On Sun, 01 May 2011 15:33:14 -0400, Monty Solomon wrote:

>> Dutch Police Used TomTom's GPS Data To Target Speeders
>> 
>> Over the past week, U.S. consumers have been talking about their smart
>> phones keeping tabs on their location. In the Netherlands, another kind of
>> GPS scandal is brewing: The government bought aggregate global positioning
>> system data from the automotive navigation company TomTom and then used it
>> to install speed cameras in places where drivers are most likely to speed.

> And how does this become any sort of "scandal" whatsoever?

TomTom users selected the option 'help TomTom improve their products' in
the software. Which somehow included 'sell road-use data to third parties'.
Directly or via another party (I saw conflicting reports on this) this
ended up with the police who was interested in where people are likely
to break the speed limits. No personal data was exchanged, just aggregates.

With a large number of people who think police speed traps are the root of
all evil and the police should really do something about traffic safety
such as ticketing people who drive the posted maximum speed on the
innermost lane (and lots of variations on this theme), a scandal was
expected.

Too bad for the media the scandal didn't happen. TomTom just told everyone
they were guilty and didn't expect this particular use of the data and
would put a stop to this, and by the way it is easy to load the locations
of known speed traps into a TomTom device anyway and get notified.

                                                 Koos

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Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 14:09:11 -0400
From: Pete Cresswell <x@y.Invalid>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Dutch Police Used TomTom's GPS Data To Target Speeders 
Message-ID: <80nds6tn6uf1hijuibhuvpa0vdrjk0n8qg@4ax.com>

Per Koos van den Hout:
>Too bad for the media the scandal didn't happen. TomTom just told everyone
>they were guilty and didn't expect this particular use of the data and
>would put a stop to this, and by the way it is easy to load the locations
>of known speed traps into a TomTom device anyway and get notified.

That sounds good, but if/when the people who get a cut of the
fines start shortening the yellow light times it may not help
much.
-- 
PeteCresswell




Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Looks like "fake caller ID" laws are about to get a boost 
Message-ID: <5e0b3a70-0a4f-4d15-b6f9-f33de9e4b262@gu8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>

On May 6, 4:02 am, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

> Like it or not, every government agency does that.  It is a fact of life
> that they do -not- have 'unlimited' funding, to pursue every reported
> 'possible violation'.

A friend of mine was cheated out of $50 by mail fraud.  (other buyers
were cheated, too.)  Very clear case and the guilty party was clearly
known.  The postal inspectors said the case was too small for them to
bother with and nothing was done.





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