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Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 06:02:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Tell Verizon to bring back FTP
Message-ID: <knce9r$n9r$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>
In article <20130520032232.GA19295@telecom.csail.mit.edu>,
Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote:
>The question, then, is "Why"? It's unlikely that any major new players
>will emerge from basements or garages or dorm rooms, but even the next
>Larry Page or Sergei Brin or whomever can afford commercial web space,
>since the dot-bomb left so much capacity lying unused.
You're a decade out of date, Bill. The world doesn't work like that
any more, not for a long time. Any new Web service today is going
to start at a virtualization provider like Amazon or Rackspace, not on
the spare server in the back room -- and this includes the ones
founded in basements, garages, and dorm rooms. There is simply no
sense to tying up capital in any sort of physical infrastructure until
your business is big enough that you're building your own data
centers. (And frankly, even if you're a hotshot Web developer, server
operations is highly unlikely to be in your core competencies anyway;
better to leave that to someone else.)
-GAWollman
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Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft
wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program
Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption
my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:08:59 -0400
From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Tell Verizon to bring back FTP
Message-ID: <20130520140858.GA12246@telecom.csail.mit.edu>
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 06:02:35AM +0000, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> In article <20130520032232.GA19295@telecom.csail.mit.edu>,
> Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote:
> >The question, then, is "Why"? It's unlikely that any major new players
> >will emerge from basements or garages or dorm rooms, but even the next
> >Larry Page or Sergei Brin or whomever can afford commercial web space,
> >since the dot-bomb left so much capacity lying unused.
>
> You're a decade out of date, Bill. The world doesn't work like that
> any more, not for a long time. Any new Web service today is going
> to start at a virtualization provider like Amazon or Rackspace, not on
> the spare server in the back room ...
The question is, why is Verizon sabotaging its own web offering?
--
Bill Horne
(Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly)
Date: 20 May 2013 15:15:29 -0000
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Tell Verizon to bring back FTP
Message-ID: <20130520151529.68710.qmail@joyce.lan>
>The question is, why is Verizon sabotaging its own web offering?
It's Verizon. Because they can.
"We don't care. We don't have to. We wouldn't even know how."
HTH, HAND,
PS: They've probably noticed that the cable providers they compete with
don't provide any web hosting at all on consumer accounts.
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:11:30 -0400
From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Tell Verizon to bring back FTP
Message-ID: <20130520171130.GA8702@telecom.csail.mit.edu>
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 03:15:29PM -0000, John Levine wrote:
>> The question is, why is Verizon sabotaging its own web offering?
>
> It's Verizon. Because they can.
>
> "We don't care. We don't have to. We wouldn't even know how."
>
> HTH, HAND,
>
> PS: They've probably noticed that the cable providers they compete with
> don't provide any web hosting at all on consumer accounts.
Well, that's certainly the simplest explanation, and Occam's Razor
would yield that result - if it fit all the facts. However, given the
"because they can" reason, I'd expect them to just turn the web
servers off.
But, it doesn't make sense to me. I'm the last guy in the world to
defend Ma Bell, but ISTM that someone has to benefit from what
they're doing, and I don't see the logic.
Bill
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Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: 20 May 2013 12:33:24 -0400
From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Tell Verizon to bring back FTP
Message-ID: <kndj8k$58n$1@panix2.panix.com>
Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote:
>On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 06:02:35AM +0000, Garrett Wollman wrote:
>> In article <20130520032232.GA19295@telecom.csail.mit.edu>,
>> Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote:
>> >The question, then, is "Why"? It's unlikely that any major new players
>> >will emerge from basements or garages or dorm rooms, but even the next
>> >Larry Page or Sergei Brin or whomever can afford commercial web space,
>> >since the dot-bomb left so much capacity lying unused.
>>
>> You're a decade out of date, Bill. The world doesn't work like that
>> any more, not for a long time. Any new Web service today is going
>> to start at a virtualization provider like Amazon or Rackspace, not on
>> the spare server in the back room ...
>
>The question is, why is Verizon sabotaging its own web offering?
They aren't sabotaging it. They're doing something that is going to get
rid of the higher volume customers that they don't want.
It's not a "web offering." It's not a revenue source, it's a revenue sink.
It's a free bonus offered in with cheap consumer accounts. Verizon wants to
spend as little money as possible running it and have as few customers as
possible actually using it.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: History--1961 Bell Data Phone ad
Message-ID: <caccbc00-7ac4-409c-bb97-b14f00c5eb32@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
In the February 1961 issue of Computers & Automation, the Bell System
placed an ad for its Data Phone. The photo shows a Call Director like
telephone set but without any line buttons. It's overimposed on a
montage of paper and magnetic tapes.
The text reads as follows:
Have you heard about the new Bell System service that lets modern
business machines talk with each other over regular telephone
lines? Its name is DATA-phone
Something new has been added to the art of data
processing. Business machine data can now be sent in a new "machine
language"-automatically, from machine to machine--by telephone.
A new kind of telephone service- Data-Phoneis the connecting link.
You can send any kind of data-from punched cards, paper tape or
magnetic tape-at Super-Phonic speeds. And you pay for your data
transmission just as you do for regular telephone calls. You simply
place a· phone call to the distant machine location, switch on your
Data-Phone at both ends, and the machines start "talking." The
Data-Phone unit takes little more space than a typewriter, and the
monthly rental charge is small.
Data-Phone can speed the handling of accounting and billing
information, inventories, payrolls, invoices, sales orders and
numerous other forms of business data. And it is compatible with an
ever increasing number of data-processing machines in use
today. Many business firms already have it.
Call your Bell Telephone Business Office and ask for a
Communications Consultant. He'll show you how new, versatile
Data-Phone service can streamline your data processing and improve
your profit picture.
BELL TELEPHONE SYSTEM THE ONE SOURCE FOR ALL BUSINESS
COMMUNICATIONS
(the entire Feb '61 issue may be viewed at:
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/computersAndAutomation/196102.pdf
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:37:28 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Telecom's Big Players Hold Back the Future
Message-ID: <p06240819cdbfe568255e@[10.0.1.2]>
Telecom's Big Players Hold Back the Future
By DAVID CARR
May 19, 2013
If you were going to look for ground zero in the fight against a
rapidly consolidating telecom and cable industry, you might end up on
the fifth floor of the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York.
Susan Crawford, a professor at the school, has written a book,
"Captive Audience: The Telecom Industry and Monopoly Power in the New
Gilded Age," that offers a calm but chilling state-of-play on the
information age in the United States. She is on a permanent campaign,
speaking at schools, conferences and companies - she was at Google
last week - and in front of Congress, asserting that the status quo
has been great for providers but an expensive mess for everyone else.
Ms. Crawford argues that the airwaves, the cable systems and even
access to the Internet itself have been overtaken by monopolists who
resist innovation and chronically overcharge consumers.
The 1996 Telecommunications Act, which was meant to lay down track to
foster competition in a new age, allowed cable companies and telecoms
to simply divide markets and merge their way to monopoly. If you are
looking for the answer to why much of the developed world has cheap,
reliable connections to the Internet while America seems just one
step ahead of the dial-up era, her office - or her book - would be a
good place to find out.
In a recent conversation, she explained that wired and wireless
connections, building blocks of modern life, are now essentially
controlled by four companies. Comcast and Time Warner have a complete
lock on broadband in the markets they control, covering some 50
million American homes, while Verizon and AT&T own 64 percent of
cellphone service. Don't get her started on the Comcast-NBCUniversal
merger unless you have some time on your hands.
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/business/media/telecoms-big-players-hold-back-the-future.html
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