Message-ID: <a5eaaf06f946d1c136f6d876672c212e.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
Date: 8 Jun 2022 01:44:19 -0400
From: "Harold Hallikainen" <harold@remove-this.hallikainen.org>
Subject: Is Verizon Visible a common carrier?
***** Moderator's Note *****
I have a script that runs whenever I log in to the Telecom Digest, and
it prints out the list of mailboxes which have new mail.
The original date of this post was 10 Nov 2021 21:03:46 -0700. I just
found it in an old email file, whose name I had forgotten to include
in the script, so I didn't know about Harold's post until I found it
during Spring cleaning.
I apologize to Mr. Hallikainen for my carelessness.
Bill Horne
Moderator
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Is Verizon Visible ( https://www.visible.com/ ) a common carrier or an
"information service?" Do they need to comply with the CPNI rules,
contribute to USF, and various other common carrier responsibilities?
Harold
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FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com
Not sent from an iPhone.
Message-ID: <8414e3d9a89471b2843c0a2ff0fd2ea4.squirrel@hallikainen.org>
Date: 8 Jun 2022 01:25:19 -0400
From: "Harold Hallikainen" <harold@remove-this.w6iwi.org>
Subject: Re: Is anyone still looking for Teletype equipment?
***** Moderator's Note *****
I have a script that runs whenever I log in to the Telecom Digest, and
it prints out the list of mailboxes which have new mail.
The original date of this post was in November, 2021. I just found it
in an old email file, whose name I had forgotten to include in the
script, so I didn't know about Harold's post until I found it during
Spring cleaning.
I apologize to Mr. Hallikainen for my carelessness.
Bill Horne
Moderator
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
On Thu, November 4, 2021 2:45 pm, Bill Horne wrote:
> I just came across a website with a lot of Teletype equipment for sale.
>
> https://picclick.com/Popular/teletype-machine
>
> --
> Bill Horne
I forwarded this to the Green Keys list ( http://www.rtty.com/greenkeys.htm )
Harold
https://w6iwi.org
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 23:14:20 -0400
From: Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com>
Subject: The Telecom Digest FAQ [nfp]
The list of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for the Telecom Digest has
been updated, and is included here for reference.
Please send corrections, clarifications, and other suggestions to the
Digest's regular address, shown above: it must be modified in an
obvious way before you hit 'send'.
If you would prefer to read the FAQ online, it's at
http://telecom-digest.org/faq.html.
Bill Horne
Moderator
(Please remove QRM from my email address to write to me directly.)
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Frequently Asked Questions for The Telecom Digest
Last update - June 7, 2022
This is the list of frequently-asked questions for The Telecom Digest,
and it is sent to new subscribers automatically. It is also posted in
the Digest whenever there's a major change.
Q. What is The Telecom Digest?
A. The Telecom Digest is the oldest continuously published mailing
list on the Internet. It was started before Usenet existed, but is now
available via the Usenet group comp.dcom.telecom, or as an email
subscription.
Q. Who's in charge?
A. The current Moderator is Bill Horne, and you may reach him by
sending email to telecomdigestsubmissions atsign telecom-digest.org
Q. How do I subscribe?
A. If you want to receive The Telecom Digest via email, send a "plain
text" email message to sympa.atsign.telecom-digest.org, with the
command "subscribe telecom" in the subject line, followed by the
"quit" command in the message body, so you don't have to worry about
any signature or other automatically-added content, which might
confuse the SYMPA robot. You may choose to receive posts in a daily
digest, with all the posts for the day included in a single email, or
you may choose to have each post sent to your email address as soon as
it is approved: the "digest plain text" option is the default, but if
you prefer to get the "individual emails" or the "digest MIME version"
version in your email, wait until your subscription has been confirmed,
and then send a new email to sympa.atsign.telecom-digest.org, with the
command "help" in the subject of the message, followed by the "quit"
command on the first line of the message body. You'll receive a help
message, which will tell you what other options are available.
If you want to subscribe an address OTHER THAN the one you are sending
the subscription request from, then you need to send an email to the
moderator, and include details of the request. Any email sent from an
address which is obfuscated, incorrect, or which goes to a
challenge-response system will be ignored.
You may also receive and post to The Telecom Digest via the Usenet
group comp.dcom.telecom, either using a newsreader program such as
"pine" (on Unix), or "Thunderbird" (on Windows), or through portals
such as Google.
Q. What topics does The Telecom Digest cover?
A. The Telecom Digest is primarily, but not exclusively, focused on
the world's telephone systems, networks, and companies. Our readers
talk about regulations, technical matters, rates, numbering plans,
tariffs, the prices charged for various services, alternatives to the
traditional telephone network (such as VoIP), and related issues.
Q. What do I do if I want to talk about something else?
A. The Internet is a big place: it's impossible to list all the
telecommunications-related groups available on Google and Usenet in
this FAQ. If you're looking for a place to talk about two-way radios
or ship's blinker lights or surplus military gear, the best way to go
about finding a mailing list, group, or website for your interest is
to do a Google search for the specific equipment you're looking for,
and backtrack from that to the places where others who are interested
in it hang out.
Q. How do I get something published in The Telecom Digest?
A. There are three ways to contribute original posts or to reply to
posts made by others. ALL POSTS ARE SENT TO THE SAME INBOX and are
evaluated by the same rules, so there's no need to worry about which
one you use. Choose from these ways:
Send an email to telecomdigestsubmissions.atsign.telecom-digest.org.
Use an NNTP client, such as pine, or a combined email/nntp program,
such as Mozilla Thunderbird, to subscribe to the Usenet group
comp.dcom.telecom and send posts to the Telecom Digest via a Usenet
server. If your ISP doesn't have a Usenet server, there are free ones
available, such as the one at eternal-september.org.
Use a commercial portal, such as Google, to access the Usenet group
comp.dcom.telecom. You will have to have an account with the portal's
owner in order to do this, but they're usually issued without charge.
No matter which way you send a message to The Telecom Digest, each
message's "Subject" line must contain one of the following tags in
order to be excepted from our spam-prevention process. There is no
guarantee that a message without one of these tags will ever be
read. The brackets around each tag must be included, but the quotes
are not required; please note that the keywords in the tags are not
case sensitive.
"[telecom]"
... if your post can be published verbatim.
"[nfp]"
... (
Not
For
Publication) if your email is only for the
Moderator's eyes.
"[obfuscate]"
... if you want the Moderator to modify your email address before
publishing your post so that it cannot be used without being
changed, i.e., so that it can't be copied by a spambot and
used to send you spam. If you are a frequent Digest
contributor, you may request that your email address be
automatically obfuscated anytime you send a post, so that you
may submit contributions without the need for the
"[obfuscate]" tag.
"[Anonymous]"
... if you want all traces of your identity removed from the post
before it is published. (See rules about anonymous postings,
shown below.)
For example:
Subject: Re: FCC refuses to take action on cramming [Anonymous]
Subject: Eleven-digit phone numbers are coming
Subject: Cell phone SMS spam is getting worse [Obfuscate]
Subject: I haven't seen my post yet [nfp]
Q. What are the Moderator's criteria for acceptable posts?
A. In general, the Moderator approves posts which meet the guidelines
shown here. The Moderator's decisions are binding, but readers are
always welcome to argue their case for an exception or for special
treatment: in other words, if a post is rejected, a contributor may
ask the Moderator to reconsider. The Moderator, in turn, may ask
that potential posts be modified so as to make them acceptable, or
may refuse to reconsider a decision to reject. The Moderator's
decision is not subject to appeal, and The Telecom Digest does not
allow "Meta" discussions about moderation policies or decisions.
Q. What are the rules about content?
A. There are very few rules. The most important are listed here:
Netiquette is both encouraged and enforced. The Telecom Digest does
not allow ad hominem attacks, unwarranted sarcasm, foul language,
undocumented allegations of illegal or improper conduct, or other
kinds of viciousness. The Moderator reserves the right to be
completely arbitrary and capricious when making decisions about posts
which, in the Moderator's sole and exclusive judgment, are
inappropriate for publication.
Posts must concern telecommunications using the spoken word or
keyboards, i.e., they should be about the ways, people, politics,
instruments, equipment, inventions, costs, history, and regulations
that bear on spoken or text-based conversations between human beings.
Posts which bear on other aspects of the PSTN are allowed if they are
germane to discussion about the worldwide telephone network in some
other way: e.g., a post about "texting" while driving would be OK, and
a post about the use of phones while on an airline flight would also
be acceptable.
The Moderator enjoys the privilege of modifying both spelling and
grammar when, in the Moderator's judgment, a post is not clear enough
to read without changes. Posts which require extensive rewriting are
usually rejected and returned to their authors for rework, but in
cases where the author cannot be contacted (e.g., when a poster does
not use a valid email address), then the Moderator may choose to step
in and modify a post rather than delete it.
Q. What are the formatting and style rules?
A. The Digest has both formatting rules and style guidelines. Here are the
rules:
You must clearly identify the source(s) of quoted material.
Any quotes which the Moderator deems to be excessively long are subject to
trimming.
Advertisements, even those automatically added to posts by "free" email/Usenet
servers without a poster's consent, are unacceptable and may be removed.
"Cartooney" legal statements which purport to limit the legal rights of
someone who reads a post will always be deleted, or the post rejected. I don't
care if your company email server adds them automatically: color them gone.
Your post must be written in English. Although it may contain words or phrases
that are commonly used by non-English speaking peoples, such entries must be
generally acceptable in the English-speaking online world.
No attachments of any sort are ever accepted. MIME emails are always
converted to plain text before they are reviewed for publication, so
HTML is always converted to plain text as well. MIME content such as
V-Cards, and images such as corporate logos, are also removed.
You may include URLs in your posts so long as they contain a valid
domain name and point to a server which is currently online and where
the page is available for inspection prior to publication. IP
addresses are never allowed in place of domain names, and the
Moderator reserves the right to delete any URL that does not point to
a well-known domain in a free country.
Since some readers use software which cannot automatically wrap long
lines to fit the computer screen, please include a "hard" newline at
the end of every line of your post. Posts that have "run-on" lines
will be either rejected or reformatted, at the Moderator's option, to
comply with this convention.
The "Official" character set of The Telecom Digest is ISO-8859-1;
US-ASCII is also acceptable. If you submit a post that uses another
character set, such as UTF-8, it might be rejected.
Please do not use "Quoted Printable" encoding. Some Usenet clients
cannot decode it, and that means I must remove it by hand, but if I
miss a "Quoted-Prinable" email, and send it out unchanged, that leaves
the readers who see it with a jumble of strange characters that they
must try to quess at or interpret by sight.
For example, here's a snippet of an email which was sent to the
Telecom Digest:
"iPhone 13 deals are extra aggressive this year, here=E2=80=99s why ..."
Any post submitted with base64 or other encoding which isn't readable "as is"
will be rejected.
Q. Are there any guidelines about the style of posts?
A. Yes, and they are listed here. The Moderator reserves the right to
modify non-compliant posts before publication if he chooses.
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Please remember that The Telecom Digest has a worldwide audience,
and that not all people use the email formatting customs which are
common in the United States, and not all readers have access to
high-definition computer screens that can show hundreds of char-
acters per line, and not all readers have young eyes. The above
ruler is a reminder to keep the lines of your posts within a
seventy-column right margin, so as to allow room for quote marks in
the left margin of followup posts.
Please don't include "ASCII art" in your posts, including signature
lines: don't forget that these sorts of decoration depend on
fixed-width fonts to be readable, and that each Digest reader gets to
choose the font (s)he prefers. For example, a .sig file that looks
like the following on your screen ...
|*******************|*****************************|
| Bill Horne | Sage, Seer, Soothsayer, and |
| Burnsville, NC | former used-car salesman at |
| 828-536-OhToo64 | Worthington Ford |
|*******************|*****************************|
... will look very different on the screen of a user whom has set
their email client or browser to use variable-width fonts ...
|*******************|*****************************|
| Bill Horne | Sage, Seer, Soothsayer, and |
| Burnsville, NC | former used-car salesman at |
| 828-536-OhToo64 | Worthington Ford |
|*******************|*****************************|
Please do not use "leetspeak" or other childish misspellings.
Excessive capitalization or using inappropriate mixtures of upper and
lower case is frowned upon.
Please limit the size of ".sig" files, and avoid pretentious
quoting.
Less IS more.
Q. Does The Telecom Digest accept anonymous posts?
A. Sometimes, but reluctantly. Posters who request anonymity must add
the "[anonymous]" tag to the subject line of their posts, and the
Moderator makes a judgment on a case-by-case basis. Posters who
request anonymity will please provide a brief reason for the
request in a clearly-separated section of the email, e.g.,
******************************************************************
Please publish this anonymously. My country is
arresting those who discuss this subject publicly.
******************************************************************
Keep in mind that, if your request for an anonymous post is accepted,
ALL information which might point to your identity will be deleted
from your post. The post will appear with a different message-id than
the one it arrived with, and all headers will be stripped, so you must
include anything you want published in the body of your post. Of
course, if you request an anonymous post but you want to include a
website address, a product name, or other items of commercial value,
then the post will be evaluated with an eye toward that and will
almost always be rejected.
Don't even think of asking the Moderator to serve as a postman for
encrypted emails: if you want to have someone encrypt their emails to
you, then you must use a publicly-reachable email address and request
encrypted replies in your post. Of course, you'll have to offer to
trade X.509 or PGP keys in private emails, or have a PGP key available
on a public key-server, such as pgp.mit.edu: the Telecom Digest does
not publish PGP keys.
Q. May I "spam-proof" my email address?
A. Yes. It's OK to make your address "human readable", so that readers
can send replies directly to you, but spam robots can't pick your
address off our website and use it to spam you. However - If your
email address is indecipherable, then your post will be reviewed
more stringently than posts sent by those who are willing to
receive direct emails. There is, of course, a gray area between
having a "spam-proof" address and having an unusable one, and the
Moderator makes decisions on a case-by-case basis as to whether
posts with invalid email addresses are acceptable.
Q. Where are the archives of old posts?
A. Some are available on the Telecom Digest website, which is at
http://www.telecom-digest.org/, but editions of the Digest produced
before 2007 might not be online in a format that you can search or
obtain with a web browser. As time allows, the Moderator is finding
ways to make them more easy to use, and I welcome help with this
project.
Q. Can we write about things that came before telephones?
A. Posts about things like semaphore signaling, Morse Code, The Pony
Express, and Carrier Pigeons are discouraged. Such subjects may,
however, be mentioned by posters who choose to illustrate the
history, technology, regulations, and social forces which formed
the PSTN we use today, but posts may not focus exclusively on them.
Q. Can I post a story about things which might come after telephones?
A. Not unless you are speculating in a believable way about the future
direction the PSTN will take. The Telecom Digest is not a venue for
Science Fiction, so if you want to post about phones on other
planets, or other ways of communication which haven't been
discovered yet, then you'll need to find a more appropriate place
for your work.
Q. Since the line between "Data" and "Telephone" gets more blurry
every day, how do you draw the line between VoIP services such as
Vonage and Skype, and the more traditional telephone network?
A. If it concerns people using electronic means to talk to each other,
it's fair game, provided that the method(s) being used are capable
of connecting to the PSTN or are provided by a recognized common
carrier. When there is room for doubt, each post is judged on its
own merits.
Q. If I can sign up to receive each post separately, why is it called
"The Telecom Digest"?
A. The original Telecom Digest was a compilation of emails that were
received by the Moderator each day. The Moderator assembled each
day's digest by hand, and sent it out manually, so there was no
other subscription option besides the "digest" version. When The
Telecom Digest was made available to Usenet readers, that changed,
but the original title of the publication remained, so it is still
called "The Telecom Digest". Up until 2007, the email version of
The Telecom Digest was still assembled by hand each day, and was
thus available only in digest form, even though it was, by that
time, sent out using an automated email robot located at John
Levine's server in New York. The email robot in use is "Sympa",
which allows subscribers to choose either digest or individual
emails, and since Usenet readers already enjoyed the option of
seeing individual posts, Sympa is programmed to give email
subscribers the same choice.
Q. What are the options available to subscribers using the email robot?
A. There are too many to list here: to get started on them, send a
"plain text" email to sympa.atsign.telecom-digest.org with the word
"help" in the subject line.
Q. How do I unsubscribe?
A. Send an email to sympa.atsign.telecom-digest.org, with the command
"unsubscribe telecom" in the subject line of the message. If you no
longer have access to the email account from which you subscribed,
use the command "unsubscribe telecom <old.email.address>". If you
don't have the password for an old account, and no longer have
access to it to send emails to the SYMPA robot, then you may ask
the Moderator to intercede and unsubscribe an old address on your
behalf. Such requests are always verified. Please note: the SYMPA
robot will AUTOMATICALLY unsubscribe any email address that is
"bouncing" emails FOR ANY REASON. If your mailbox is full, you
might lose your subscription, so please turn off delivery of the
Digest when you go on vacation!
Q. How do I turn off delivery of the Telecom Digest while I'm on vacation?
A. You need only send a "set" command to the email robot, with the
appropriate option. See the help file for more info.
Example: if you send an email to sympa.atsign.telecom-digest.org, and put
set * nomail
... in the subject line of the message, Sympa will stop delivery of
your subscriptions (Not just the Telecom Digest) until you send
another "set" command to restart them.
Please note that all robot commands need to be confirmed, so you'll
get a "challenge" email from the Sympa robot, containing instructions
on how to confirm the command. If you prefer, you may send commands
that are validated with your Sympa password, and they will be executed
without need for confirmation: see the Sympa help files for info.
End of the Telecom Digest FAQ.
