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Volume 29 : Issue 95 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
 Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving      (Sam Spade)
 Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving         (Steven)
 Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving   (Thad Floryan)
 Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving         (Steven)
 Re: Data security law sparks concerns                                     (SVU)


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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:08:52 -0700 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving Message-ID: <oUgun.37282$Ht4.32003@newsfe20.iad> Steven wrote: >> > The only way to stop usage of cell phones by drivers while holding them > is to increase the fines to a few thousand dollars, anything under that > will have no effect. I see hundreds of people each day using phones as > I drive around. I stay as far as I can from them. > > -- > The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? > (c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co. > Why not take their car away from them, revoke their license, and give them 10 years in prison?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:12:58 -0700 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving Message-ID: <hpd5mt$p3t$1@news.eternal-september.org> Sam Spade wrote: > Steven wrote: > >>> >> The only way to stop usage of cell phones by drivers while holding them >> is to increase the fines to a few thousand dollars, anything under that >> will have no effect. I see hundreds of people each day using phones as >> I drive around. I stay as far as I can from them. >> >> -- >> The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? >> (c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co. >> > > Why not take their car away from them, revoke their license, and give > them 10 years in prison? > Give the police more reasons to take cars and you will have some agencies setting up road blocks and taking every car that comes through with a cell phone on board even if it not in use. And I spend 2o plus years as a Reserve Sheriff. Revoking the drivers license is fine with me, 10 years in Prison would have to make it a Felony. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:20:22 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving Message-ID: <4BBA37F6.80209@thadlabs.com> On 4/5/2010 10:12 AM, Steven wrote: > Sam Spade wrote: >> Steven wrote: >> >>> The only way to stop usage of cell phones by drivers while holding them >>> is to increase the fines to a few thousand dollars, anything under that >>> will have no effect. I see hundreds of people each day using phones as >>> I drive around. I stay as far as I can from them. >> >> Why not take their car away from them, revoke their license, and give >> them 10 years in prison? > > Give the police more reasons to take cars and you will have some > agencies setting up road blocks and taking every car that comes through > with a cell phone on board even if it not in use. And I spend 2o plus > years as a Reserve Sheriff. Revoking the drivers license is fine with > me, 10 years in Prison would have to make it a Felony. Dunno about 10 years, but treating it ("it" = distracted driving texting or using a cellphone) as a felony makes perfect sense given the studies which show such distracted driving exhibiting properties akin to DUI (alcohol or drugs). What bothers me more is how DUI is frequently handed here in California as hardly more than a speeding violation in that repeat offenders (recividists) are allowed to continue driving after the arrest and conviction -- it's just a matter of time before their luck runs out and *B*A*M* a fatal accident. I see far too often in the local papers where some DUIers are reported to have had 10+ prior DUI convictions. It's been awhile so my memory is fuzzy on this, but when I drove in Europe (mostly Germany and France) there was only one chance: get caught DUI and never, ever be able to drive again. We need that level of enforcement and sentencing everywhere.
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:39:35 -0700 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: California's upcoming 1-2-punch against distracted driving Message-ID: <hpe6t7$prc$1@news.eternal-september.org> > Dunno about 10 years, but treating it ("it" = distracted driving texting or > using a cellphone) as a felony makes perfect sense given the studies which > show such distracted driving exhibiting properties akin to DUI (alcohol or > drugs). > > What bothers me more is how DUI is frequently handed here in California as > hardly more than a speeding violation in that repeat offenders (recividists) > are allowed to continue driving after the arrest and conviction -- it's just > a matter of time before their luck runs out and *B*A*M* a fatal accident. I > see far too often in the local papers where some DUIers are reported to have > had 10+ prior DUI convictions. It's been awhile so my memory is fuzzy on this, > but when I drove in Europe (mostly Germany and France) there was only one > chance: get caught DUI and never, ever be able to drive again. We need that > level of enforcement and sentencing everywhere. This is getting way off subject now. I have a car hands free, but don't use it while driving. I agree is should be treated the same as a DUI, that is if it cause injury; a few years ago a driver was convicted because he ran into a van full of kids, he did get 10 years. Some 40 years ago a girl friend was killed by a drunk driver who had at least 10 DUIs', he kept on getting slapped on the hand for it. I got involved because she was had my service card in her purse, responding units thought she was a wife of a police officer. This guy still got off with just under a year in jail, by the way, the judge who heard the case had a bright red nose, one guess what his problem was? I did everything I could to get him off the bench, he died a couple of years later. We don't need more laws we need for them to be inforced. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT) From: SVU <brad.houser@gmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Data security law sparks concerns Message-ID: <c2c478fc-ba24-4193-a4a3-45bf0c89d7e7@g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> > ***** Moderaotor's Note ***** > > My new employer has given me a new laptop, which has a built in > provision to encrypt the entire hard disk. The encryption is done by > the laptop's hardware, not the Operating System, and I've been assured > that the hard drive is unreadable in any other machine. > > The point is that I don't think protecting data is that hard to do. > > Bill Horne > Moderator Yes, but there are still ways to get at any data if the user has not powered down or locked the screensaver. What I don't understand is why so many business people walk around with their customer records on their laptop, including credit card numbers and SSNs. How many times have you heard about data being taken from stolen laptops? Folks, if they can keep just any employee from viewing my salary and SSN, then they can keep customer information private too. Brad Houser
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