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Message Digest
Volume 29 : Issue 86 : "text" Format
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Re: Law Enforcement Appliance Subverts SSL
Can I get a Blackbery 8330 working without a contract
Re: Can I get a Blackbery 8330 working without a contract
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:39:14 -0500
From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Law Enforcement Appliance Subverts SSL
Message-ID: <HoKdnd7olNja1THWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@posted.visi>
Bill Horne wrote:
> For a careful Internet user, who is using a secure machine, to be
> deceived into believing that a fraudulent website which claims to
> be www.high-priced-bank.com is the real deal, the attackers must go
> through a multi-step process...
[snip]
> Step "D" is relatively doable, assuming the attacker has access to
> the LAN the victim is using, but that's not as easy as it might
> seem: assuming the victim is using a DSL or Cable Internet
> connection, the only place the "LAN" connection is easily available
> is between the victim's computer and the high-speed modem, which is
> usually co-located with the computer. Keep in mind that the device
> Wired has featured is intended be used at a LAN interface, such as
> an Ethernet patch panel, but that assumes that "law enforcement"
> personnel have access to the wire closet and that they can prove
> in a court that they did so legally.
If the last decade has taught us anything, it is that government
employees ("LEO" is just another three-letter acronym) sometimes don't
bother with that last step. And that it is very rare that they be
held responsible for the omission. And of course, we can be pretty
sure that nongovernment types won't worry about it.
Though I suspect that since the infrastructure is so unreliably
maintained (certificates not renewed, IP numbers changed, links to
noncovered servers) most users will just click through the warnings,
since the certificates have cried "wolf!" so many times already.
Though for your VoIP calls, I expect it's much simpler just to get
access from the VoIP provider. I think it's the height of naivete to
think that LEOs always have court orders to back them up when doing
wiretaps, whether of telephones or data networks.
Dave
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:50:25 -0400
From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Can I get a Blackbery 8330 working without a contract
Message-ID: <20100326195025.GA15269@billhorne.homelinux.org>
One of my son's friends has been using a Blackberry model 8330 phone
on Sprint.
He had a falling-out with his girlfriend, who was the account holder,
and now he wants to sell me the phone. I need to know if there's a way
to use it without the two-year contract Sprint demands for a new
account, and what feature(s) this phone offers other than regular
phone service.
TIA.
Bill
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:39:48 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Can I get a Blackbery 8330 working without a contract
Message-ID: <hoj9j7$u6r$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Bill Horne wrote:
> One of my son's friends has been using a Blackberry model 8330 phone
> on Sprint.
>
> He had a falling-out with his girlfriend, who was the account holder,
> and now he wants to sell me the phone. I need to know if there's a way
> to use it without the two-year contract Sprint demands for a new
> account, and what feature(s) this phone offers other than regular
> phone service.
You should be able to use it on their network with no contract, that
is if the phone was not under contract and the phones ESN is
clear. Twice I have supplied my own phones since I was able to get it
even cheaper then if I had bought it with a contract. I did sign a
contract on one that I bought so that I could get a rebate which made
the phone free from what I had paid for it and getting another $200.
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