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The Telecom Digest for April 01, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 83 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: No-Call List Enforcement In USA: Dead or Dying?(Sam Spade)
Re: No-Call List Enforcement In USA: Dead or Dying?(Pete Cresswell)
Re: No-Call List Enforcement In USA: Dead or Dying?(Ron)
Re: "Hotshot" dialers(tlvp)
Re: No Signal: Homes Often Baffle Wi-Fi From Routers(Pete Cresswell)
Re: 'Robo-call' law in limbo after lawsuit fails(Pete Cresswell)
Re: 'Robo-call' law in limbo after lawsuit fails(Pete Cresswell)
Re: Very interesting product(SVU)

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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:04:11 -0700
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: No-Call List Enforcement In USA: Dead or Dying? 
Message-ID: <4dmdnaa7JqnmqAnQnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com>

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> 
> Can anybody who really knows comment?   Is No-Call List
> enforcement really dead or dying?
> 
> Is there any technological solution here or on the horizon -
> especially for cell phone users?   Challenge/Response?  Gold
> Lists?

The federal stance has always been nothing more than statistic gathering 
and referral to uour local jurisdiction fo litigation on your dime 
should you so choose.  Sounds like PA went the extra mile until funding 
ran out.

I know of no way they can stop this using any type of technolgy with 
either wireline or wireless.  The issue with wireless is really at the 
wireline level.




Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:06:03 -0400
From: "Pete Cresswell" <x@y.Invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: No-Call List Enforcement In USA: Dead or Dying? 
Message-ID: <4tc9p61k0en5j35hcdm3lsa1qq5f7ibrf3@4ax.com>

Per Sam Spade:
>I know of no way they can stop this using any type of technolgy with 
>either wireline or wireless.  The issue with wireless is really at the 
>wireline level.

Irritating the rich and powerful seems tb a tried-and-true method
of getting action.

Since reading this  http://tinyurl.com/qhvwrr , I suspect that a
fix will be forthcoming within a year or two max.

My hope is that said fix doesn't involve something that costs too
much for us peons.

-- 
PeteCresswell




Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:46:41 -0400
From: Ron <ron@see.below>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: No-Call List Enforcement In USA: Dead or Dying? 
Message-ID: <6b4ap6ttv262gsughm3l7s63e8iunfjnep@4ax.com>

Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
>I know of no way they can stop this using any type of technolgy with 
>either wireline or wireless.  The issue with wireless is really at the 
>wireline level.

  Actually, it's easy.  "Follow the money".  You don't need to
trace the source number.
  The violators are trying to make money.  If the feds were to
fine the companies advertised, that would provide sufficient
incentive to keep the violations down.
  Recording your telephone spam should provide the
necessary chain of evidence.

-- 
Ron
(user telnom.for.plume
in domain antichef.com)




Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:04:02 -0400
From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: "Hotshot" dialers 
Message-ID: <op.vs6k40mjitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:02:43 -0400, David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:

> I'm seeking a one-button dialer. You push a button, and it dials
> the number, pauses and dials the access code. In the early days
> of MCI Execunet and such; they were as common as bedbugs are
> now.
>
> The one I want is not portable, wireless or even iPad
> compatible. It installs inside or next to a 2500-type set,
> (hopefully) runs off loop current, and has one button. You
> program it and that's it.
>
> Suggestions? eBay has dozens of "I've fallen and can't get up"
> units but my searches otherwise come up snake eyes....

I think the folks at Viking offer such devices, as do
(most likely) the folks (if still there) at 1-800-HI-HELLO.

HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP




Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:45:01 -0400
From: "Pete Cresswell" <x@y.Invalid>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: No Signal: Homes Often Baffle Wi-Fi From Routers 
Message-ID: <bp49p69vpdqn9j1539r4l2uc118jd0br4e@4ax.com>

Per Peter R Cook:
>As I understand it, if the two access points are on different channels, 
>but have the same SSID the Wireless client SHOULD do what you want and 
>roam to the strongest signal.

Thanks.  I'll have to give that a try.

I avoided the duplicate SSIDs just on general principles.

-- 
PeteCresswell




Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:06:41 -0400
From: "Pete Cresswell" <x@y.Invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: 'Robo-call' law in limbo after lawsuit fails 
Message-ID: <jv59p65fdqmiidfip65itaqbf3p10sj0fe@4ax.com>

Per danny burstein:
>Senator Charles Schumer [D-NY] himself, while at a meeting on Capitol 
>Hill, got one of these calls to his cell phone. And he went publicly
>ballistic...

That is the best news I've heard in a long time... and now I feel
like I can stop obsessing over the issue.

Now that people in power are getting irritated by it, something
will be done.

Only bad outcome I can see - short of them having assistants
screen calls - is some technological solution that they can
afford and the rest of us cannot.   
-- 
PeteCresswell

***** Moderator's Note *****

The solution they can afford is to have assistants screen calls. I
have written on this before: privacy is a privilege of the rich, and
trying to use technical means to prevent intrusions is like setting a
burglar alarm on Fort Knox and leaving town.

Privacy is valuable, and the Elites of our society have always known
it. Some of them make a lot of money by invading ours, so they won't
allow us to have it. 

Bill Horne
Moderator




Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:12:52 -0400
From: "Pete Cresswell" <x@y.Invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: 'Robo-call' law in limbo after lawsuit fails 
Message-ID: <ifd9p6pohjj5m1al6lgg223pq3n96jsnq5@4ax.com>

Per danny burstein:
>>Congressmen have all their numbers on a special "don't even think
>>about it" list, which every telemarketeer obeys carefully. 

The cynic in me thinks "Of course....".

But can anybody document/cite in support of that?
-- 
PeteCresswell

***** Moderator's Note *****

I cannot provide chapter and verse: all I have to go on is a
conversation I overheard between a manager and a technician at a
company which provided custom-made call-handling setups for
telemarketers. The manager reminded his tech to be sure that the
"crybaby" list was put in first, before the do-not-call disks, and the
tech laughed, and said he'd make sure that
<well-known-elected-official>'s name was on it. The manager rebuked
him, saying that "Nobody wants to piss off the congress", and I took
that as meaning that the "crybaby" list was for Congressman.

Bill Horne
Moderator




Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:57:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: SVU <brad.houser@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Very interesting product 
Message-ID: <1556e76c-67cf-4666-8bce-540cc833621b@j13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

On Mar 30, 8:01 am, "PeteCresswell" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> Per John Mayson:
>
> >I finally decided on Android and bought a Huawei Ideos 7" tablet.
>
>(BestBuy listing for the product is here)
>
> I'm probably looking right at it and not seeing... but does anybody
> know what the screen rez is?
>
> -- PeteCresswell

800x480

http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/productFeatures.do?pinfoId=2586&directoryId=2588





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