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Volume 29 : Issue 83 : "text" Format
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Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:52:08 -0700
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <Yi%pn.68176$gF5.13548@newsfe13.iad>
John Levine wrote:
>>>The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
>>>economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
>
>
> Welcome to the magic of the Universal Service Fund, where the more you
> spend, the more you make. I hope there is one ESS with four remotes,
> but I wouldn't count on it.
>
> R's,
> John
>
Not Possible. The towns are too far apart.
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:55:27 -0700
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <3m%pn.68177$gF5.64698@newsfe13.iad>
David Lesher wrote:
> Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>The drive to cover these five wire centers is gigantic. The towns must
>>very in size from 300 to 900 people. Ajo might top 1,000...barely.
>
>
>>The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
>>economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
>
>
> I don't believe such at all. What I suspect is that each of
> those towns has a remote of some kind off of a distant 5ESS.
>
> I vaguely recall an ORM {Optically-coupled Remote Module} can be
> hosted by a 5E within 150 miles. I suspect what's in each town
> is something similar.
>
> Someone with a LERG could tell us specifics.
>
>
I gave the NPA and office code of each locationin my first message. The
local calling guide returns 4 5Es as hosts. I plan to stop on Monday
April 12 and ask since the corporate offices are a few blocks from my B&B.
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:51:07 -0400
From: Fred Goldstein <fgoldstein.SeeSigSpambait@wn2.wn.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <20100323144814.DF75748153@mailout.easydns.com>
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:05:25 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
<wb8foz@panix.com> wrote,
>Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> writes:
>
> >The drive to cover these five wire centers is gigantic. The towns must
> >very in size from 300 to 900 people. Ajo might top 1,000...barely.
>
> >The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
> >economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
>
>I don't believe such at all. What I suspect is that each of
>those towns has a remote of some kind off of a distant 5ESS.
>
>I vaguely recall an ORM {Optically-coupled Remote Module} can be
>hosted by a 5E within 150 miles. I suspect what's in each town
>is something similar.
>
>Someone with a LERG could tell us specifics.
No remotes. Table Top Telephone is listed with six 5Es. No remotes,
though they show a "host" in Prescott, which is a Qwest
exchange. Maybe they have a rural part of Prescott.
The six exchanges are not near each other, so host/remote would be
somewhat problematic. Ajo is in the far south, near the Tohono
O'Odham Nation. Seligman is towards the northwest of the
state. Sanders is on the eastern end. Aguila is west-central, and
Bagdad is deep in the middle of noplace. All are listed as
subtending the Phoenix tandem (Q).
Of course a 5E was expensive; they were about $1M to start. Nowadays
you can get a small CO switch in the $100k range, plus line terminals
(which can be field-mounted, with DSL). But a USF-funded RLEC can
spend whatever it wants, with the rest of us paying for it. So the
more they spend, the more they make. So Table Top Tel gets almost
$300k a month in subsidies, for probably fewer than 3000
lines. About a quarter is "local switching support", though more
goes to high-cost-loop support, which is a bit harder to argue with.
Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/
+1 617 795 2701
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:19:01 -0700
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Message-ID: <p54qn.54241$mn6.41094@newsfe07.iad>
John Bartley K7AAY wrote:
> I'm looking for a telephony provider which will ring number A on an
> incoming call, and if number A does not answer within x seconds, ring
> number B, then number C if B does not answer within x seconds. Don't
> want to install hardware on our premises, and a flat monthly rate is
> preferred for the service without having to worry about running over
> the specified number of minutes (as phone.com bills in tiers, and my
> agency prefers a flat rate).
>
> Your kind assistance would be appreciated.
>
Vonage has "simul ring."
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:53:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: SVU <brad.houser@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Message-ID: <a835aad6-6366-4d2e-a3cd-a647928921d3@l40g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 22, 9:32 pm, Steven <diespamm...@killspammers.com> wrote:
> John Bartley K7AAY wrote:
> > I'm looking for a telephony provider which will ring number A on an
> > incoming call, and if number A does not answer within x seconds, ring
> > number B, then number C if B does not answer within x seconds. Don't
> > want to install hardware on our premises, and a flat monthly rate is
> > preferred for the service without having to worry about running over
> > the specified number of minutes (as phone.com bills in tiers, and my
> > agency prefers a flat rate).
>
> > Your kind assistance would be appreciated.
>
> That sounds a little like Google Phone.
Sounds more like Google Voice, except all phones ring at the same time
and it is free. No guarantee you can sign up, you need to request an
"invite".
http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:02:44 -0500
From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Message-ID: <hqSdnb-lk7MJ1TTWnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications>
In article <4904d969-35ec-491c-ba0b-fccbd4d3dfef@h35g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
John Bartley K7AAY <john.bartley@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm looking for a telephony provider which will ring number A on an
>incoming call, and if number A does not answer within x seconds, ring
>number B, then number C if B does not answer within x seconds. Don't
>want to install hardware on our premises, and a flat monthly rate is
>preferred for the service without having to worry about running over
>the specified number of minutes (as phone.com bills in tiers, and my
>agency prefers a flat rate).
>
>Your kind assistance would be appreciated.
>
STANDARD telco feature for business lines, offered by practically
_everybody_, ILEC and CLEC. Called "Call Forward No Answer". Usually
part of the standard business line -- i.e. no extra charge for it.
have line A forward on no anwer to B, and B forward on no answer to C.
'when' it happens is not in seconds, but after a specified number of
rings.
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:15:02 -0500
From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal
Message-ID: <CdydnefLmOTr1jTWnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications>
In article <201003220710.DAA15498@ss10.danlan.com>,
Dan Lanciani <ddl@danlan.com> wrote:
>bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>
[[.. sneck ..]]
>|
>|One that only understands NANP format numbers -- and chokes, and therefore
>|doesn't display anything, when confronted with something 'foreign'?
>|
>|In years past, I've encountered a lot of budget CPE gear that was very
>|US-centric.
>
>What about stupid land-line switch (or perhaps "helpful" programming)?
>
>I have some phones set up in an internal VOIP system. The number of
>one such phone is "2". I can dial out to the PSTN via a VOIP gateway
>service. When I call my POTS land line from "2" the caller ID is
>out-of-area. I always assumed that either the gateway doesn't trust
>me or the network doesn't trust the gateway. One day for some reason
>I called my ISDN land line from "2" and was surprised to see "2" come
>through as the caller id. I temporarily changed the station name of
>"2" to something that looked like a normal 10-digit US phone number and
>sure enough it showed up on my POTS land line caller ID. I suppose this
>is all illegal now, at least in Mississippi. :)
'out of area' is displayed for CID data fields that the display box
"doesn't understand". Symptomatic of idiot-level programming in the
ID display.
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