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  The Telecom Digest for March 01, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 52 : "text" Format

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Re: Verizon/GTE/Bell Atlantic/etc.(Bob Goudreau)
Re: Verizon/GTE/Bell Atlantic/etc.(markjcuccia)
Re: Abuse Suspects, Your Calls Are Taped. Speak Up.(David Clayton)

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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 04:09:26 -0500
From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon/GTE/Bell Atlantic/etc. 
Message-ID: <C1FD6BBD602A4812AEEC381671367110@meng.lab.emc.com>

Lisa Hancock wrote:

> As far as I know, the [Verizon] wireless operation was always a
> subsidiary unit and remains so to this day.

Not really a subsidiary, but a separate company since 1999. Verizon Wireless
is a joint venture between Verizon Communications (the parent company of all
those legacy landlines) and Britain's Vodafone PLC. Verizon owns 55 percent
and Vodaphone owns 45 percent. Ironically, the Verizon name was first used
by the wireless joint venture, months before Bell Atlantic bought GTE and
dubbed the resulting company Verizon Communications.

Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC




Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:29:49 -0800 (PST)
From: markjcuccia@yahoo.com
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon/GTE/Bell Atlantic/etc. 
Message-ID: <a39a2a66-739c-421e-bcd9-c9732f5279af@o21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>

On Feb 28, 2011, Bob Goudreau wrote:

> Lisa Hancock wrote:

>> As far as I know, the [Verizon] wireless operation was always a
>> subsidiary unit and remains so to this day.

> Not really a subsidiary, but a separate company since 1999.
> Verizon Wireless is a joint venture between Verizon Communications
> (the parent company of all those legacy landlines) and Britain's
> Vodafone PLC. Verizon owns 55 percent and Vodaphone owns 45 percent.
> Ironically, the Verizon name was first used by the wireless joint
> venture, months before Bell Atlantic bought GTE and dubbed the
> resulting company Verizon Communications.
>
> Bob Goudreau
> Cary, NC

The new VZ-Wireless name was announced around April 2000, for the
wireless sides of (once) Bell Atlantic (including once NYNEX) and
(once) GTE (including once Contel), the VZ-Wireless company being that
entity 45% owned by the UK's Vodafone.

About three months later, in July 2000, the merger of the landline
companies was effective, and the VZ name began to now be applied to
the landline sides, however, it was understood three months earlier in
April 2000 (when the wireless sides adopted the VZ-Wireless name) that
when the landline sides officially/effectively were merged, that this
new VZ name would also apply to them.

Mark J. Cuccia
markjcuccia at yahoo dot com




Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:06:38 +1100
From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Abuse Suspects, Your Calls Are Taped. Speak Up. 
Message-ID: <pan.2011.02.28.03.06.37.279984@myrealbox.com>

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:55:41 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
>
>>Abuse Suspects, Your Calls Are Taped. Speak Up.
>
>>By WILLIAM GLABERSON
>>February 25, 2011
>
> Uh, Monty, instead of just using the headline on Subject, you might have
> clarified that there are no privacy implications. A prisoner in custody or
> jail has zero privacy. Telephone conversations have always been overheard.
>
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>
> I think the difference is digital recording technology. In the analog age,
> taping a prisoner's phone calls was expensive and time-consuming, and thus
> hard on prison budgets. Ergo, many cons knew that the chances of being
> recorded were actually fairly low.
>
> Now, an entire PRI can be dumped to disk in near-real-time, and made
> available through the cloud to prosecuters tens or hundreds of miles away.
> It's not that prisoners are careless on the phone - by definition, they
> are careless people - it's that the recordings are finally being used.

And with the ability now to pick out key words via software, it becomes
very cost-effective to process every call with a machine rather than
require some human to review everything in real-time.

--
Regards, David.

David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.





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