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Volume 29 : Issue 28 : "text" Format
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Doc Porter Museum
Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
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Cold War history
Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:57:18 -0500
From: Bill Horne <bill.remove-this@and-this-too.horne.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Doc Porter Museum
Message-ID: <20100127155718.GA5432@billhorne.homelinux.org>
Here's a link to the Doc Porter Museum of Telephone History, located
in Houston. They have a lot of nice pictures and some excellent
graphics.
http://www.houstontelephonemuseum.com/
Bill Horne
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:06:46 -0800
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
Message-ID: <Wg%7n.44522$s%.27853@newsfe18.iad>
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> As an example, after Divesture staff was cut at a critical central
> office. The building caught fire, efforts were delayed, and area
> service was badly disrupted for some time. (Pat had spoken of this
> many times.) IMHO, the staff cutbacks were a direct result of
> Divesture, adding to the severity of the fire and service outage.
Wasn't that in the end office that served Lucent (WE) in IL?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:28:40 EST
From: Wesrock@aol.com
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
Message-ID: <2ec79.76f0645d.3891b5a8@aol.com>
In a message dated 1/26/2010 11:21:12 AM Central Standard Time,
jmyers@n6wuz.net writes
> What was the source of that bias?
The Bell Companies felt that they had been at W.E.'s mercy for so long and
that W.E. really didn't look on them as customers. Now they were free to
use other suppliers; as I recall required by the Consent Decree required to
take competiticve bids. As a matter of fact, W.E. soon became more
reesponsive.
Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:45:40 EST
From: Wesrock@aol.com
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
Message-ID: <2f741.177cfb3e.3891b9a4@aol.com>
In a message dated 1/26/2010 10:22:25 PM Central Standard Time,
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
> --Large subscribers, such as pipelines and large businesses, who
> wanted better discounts for toll service and to own their own
> equipment instead of renting it
"Right-of-way" companies, mostly railroads and pipeline companies,
always had the freedom to interconnect with Bell lines and use their
own equipment.
Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:46:41 -0500
From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Cold War history
Message-ID: <4B6108A1.3060508@speakeasy.net>
If you're curious about the relics of the cold war, please visit
http://coldwar-c4i.net/ , which has a number of pictures and lots of
information about America's attempts to prevent a mine-shaft gap.
My thanks to Albert LaFrance for all the work he's done to make this
site available.
Bill Horne
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:18:07 -0800
From: "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
Message-ID: <ukj637-b2n.ln1@n6wuz.net>
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Jan 24, 10:46 pm, "Jack Myers" <jmy...@n6wuz.net> wrote:
>> Is it true that AT&T management had the opportunity to decide
>> whether to retain the local operating companies or everything else?
> [Discussion of pre-divestiture issues snipped.]
> I believe AT&T had some choice in what parts of its business it could
> keep and what parts it had to give it up.
Thank you.
The discussion concerned the *lower-case* at&t post-divestiture. [As
an aside, any list at that level of detail ought to have a separate
line item for the well-documented incident in Florida Where MCI
circuits were intentionally disconnected and AT&T stonewalling impeded
service restoration.]
>> AT&T expected computer manufacturing to be the wave of the future,
>> and Western Electric was their captive manufacturer. Initially WE
>> received a windfall because each new LATA required a brand-new
>> "equal access" tandem switch.
> Actually, that's not true. Some LATAs did require new switchgear
> because the LATA was artificially drawn. But others did not.
Granted. Again, out of curiosity, what was the criterion for deciding
whether to install a new #4ESS equal access tandem in a peer relation
to existing metropolitan tandem switches?
>> ... the competitive long-distance providers, GTE
>> Sprint and MCI, proved to be a strong competitors.
> Sprint and MCI were not "strong competitors".
That's certainly a valid point of view. The dominant firm in a growing
market lost revenue and market share over time. One might just as well
infer that GTE Sprint and MCI faced a weak competitor, ultimately
resulting in the ongoing map wars. ;-)
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