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| Re: What did the USPTO really say about unlocking cell phones? | (John Mayson) |
| Re: Very interesting product | (John Levine) |
| Re: Sounds like ... | (Robert Bonomi) |
| Re: Sounds like ... | (Robert Bonomi) |
| Re: Better check that iTune software box (humor) | (AES) |
| Re: Better check that iTune software box (humor) | (Sam Spade) |
| Re: What did the USPTO really say about unlocking cell phones? | (AES) |
| Re: Sounds like ... | (Richard) |
| Re: Sounds like ... | (Bob Goudreau) |
| Re: What did the USPTO really say about unlocking cell | (Joseph Singer) |
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:01:29 -0600
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: What did the USPTO really say about unlocking cell phones?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikX_C6E-HZBZ2z9gu3ohPJ64hskd86948BvjVhL@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:31 PM, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> My suggestion, John, if it's a T-Mobile- (or VoiceStream-) branded
> phone: phone in again, to the 1-800-WEST-WYR CS number, try to get to
> a "data" CS rep, explain that you're planning to be abroad for a week
> or two in a month or so and want to SIM-unlock the handset so as to be
> able to use a local prepay SIM while you're away, and the rep should
> stand ready either to talk you through the unlock steps on your
> handset, or to have an email sent to you with the relevant unlock
> code -- and detailed unlock instructions.
>
> It may help to refer to the SIM-unlock code as the "SIM subsidy"
> unlock code, or the "SUK", to be using an instrument other than the
> handset you seek to unlock, and to have ready the make, model, IMEI,
> and current T-Mobile phone number of said handset.
Thanks. If/when I decide to unlock our other outright owned T-Mobile
phone I'll try that. I've already ordered an unlock code from
GSMLiberty.com. At this point I am so disgusted with T-Mobile and the
runaround I've gotten from them that $25 for an unlock code seems like
a small price to pay. My time is worth something and I've spent too
much of it on the phone with them as it is.
I was toying with the idea of leaving AT&T for T-Mobile because the
latter offers better Android support and more products. But all
T-Mobile has accomplished is assuring I will never be a future
T-Mobile customer.
John
--
John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
Date: 23 Jan 2011 00:01:52 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Very interesting product
Message-ID: <20110123000152.79372.qmail@joyce.lan>
>Again, John, I was referring rather to the data bands 900/1700/2100 UMTS, or
>850/1900/2100 UMTS, that see use only with T-Mobile
Rather than telling you once again that you're confused, can I ask you
to spend two minutes and read this Wikipedia article which explains
what bands are used where?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The 2100 band is starting to be used in Europe, other than that it's
900 and 1800. The 850 and 1900 bands are used in North America, as is
the recently licensed 1700 band.
R's,
John
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:23:07 -0600
From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Sounds like ...
Message-ID: <UP-dncQkW--mJqbQnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications>
In article <j5mjj69vk2esu6bbm5qup299es8aikhoj3@4ax.com>,
Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:05:28 -0800 (PST), Joseph Singer
><joeofseattle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:24:17 -0500 Curt Bramblett
>And people who use the possessive ('s ending) instead of the plural.
>A tattoo parlor in my town advertises "Tattoo's".
Well, what would you call skin-art done by Mr. Roarke's assistant?
{{think "the plane! the plane!"}}
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:28:31 -0600
From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Sounds like ...
Message-ID: <UP-dncckW-_iIabQnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications>
In article <dn7jj69nqplsesmbh8s3s94vn9buv4rc7f@4ax.com>,
Robert Neville <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately many people must have been dosing off in school when it
>>was explained to them that even though several words may sound alike
>>they do have distinctive different meanings among them such as to/too,
>>your/you're, there, their, they're.
>
>Top of my pet peeve list is when people use "mute" when they clearly intended
>"moot." As in "It's a moot point."
Should I mention the law school practice trial-court for the deaf?
"Mute Court"
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:09:20 -0800
From: AES <siegman@stanford.edu>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Better check that iTune software box (humor)
Message-ID: <siegman-A97A5E.10092023012011@bmedcfsc-srv02.tufts.ad.tufts.edu>
In article <opudnSftLJ8wu6fQnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
> Cartoonist view of the wrath of Apple for not really reading that
> software agreement before checking the little box:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4toyzrp
Is the iTunes software agreement really (as stated in the cartoon)
_55 pages_ long?
[Despite being an intensive user of Mac computers, I've hated iTunes
since the day it appeared, and refuse to have anything to do with any
gadgets or software that require its use -- so I've never actually
encountered that agreement.]
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:03:36 -0800
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Better check that iTune software box (humor)
Message-ID: <vtKdnZjDDKtlQKHQnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
AES wrote:
> In article <opudnSftLJ8wu6fQnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Cartoonist view of the wrath of Apple for not really reading that
>>software agreement before checking the little box:
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/4toyzrp
>
>
> Is the iTunes software agreement really (as stated in the cartoon)
> _55 pages_ long?
>
Beats me. I've never read one. :-)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:28:19 -0800
From: AES <siegman@stanford.edu>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: What did the USPTO really say about unlocking cell phones?
Message-ID: <siegman-921313.10281923012011@bmedcfsc-srv02.tufts.ad.tufts.edu>
In article <20110122155854.57901.qmail@joyce.lan>,
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
> >I have found various services that for $25 or so will provide an unlock
> >code. Are these companies typically legit? Specifically I'm looking at
> >gsmliberty.com.
>
> Yes. I've bought a bunch of unlock codes and they all worked. One time
> they couldn't provide a code, but they refunded my money.
While on this topic, does anyone know of any legitimate paid services
which will "jailbreak" or otherwise reprogram Apple iPods?
I'd love to have an iPod (or similar gadget) that would would able to
- Function as a USB flashdrive or external drive equivalent -- i.e., I
could connect it to the USB port on any Mac or PC computer that can
handle external USB drives, and drag and drop files of any standard
formats onto it or or off it;
- And, if those files include some audio files that are in one of the
iPod-playable formats, one can then navigate to and listen to them on
the free-standing iPod;
- And, making the USB-connection re-charges the gadget's batteries:
- And, doing the above never, ever, ever invokes or auto-triggers or in
anyway involves the use iTunes.
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:35 -0800
From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Sounds like ...
Message-ID: <ll7qj6tr32qdvdt3qqb05gp3dejq41nm63@4ax.com>
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:58:57 -0700, Robert Neville <dont@bother.com>
wrote:
>Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately many people must have been dosing off in school when it
>>was explained to them that even though several words may sound alike
>>they do have distinctive different meanings among them such as to/too,
>>your/you're, there, their, they're.
>
>Top of my pet peeve list is when people use "mute" when they clearly intended
>"moot." As in "It's a moot point."
My brother and several other relatives pronounce "taut" as "taunt" As
in: "The rope is stretched tight. It is taunt."
Dick
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:12:12 -0500
From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Sounds like ...
Message-ID: <94F2AED55FE64999804931193EC05D06@meng.lab.emc.com>
Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately many people must have been dosing [sic] off in school when
> it was explained to them that even though several words may sound alike
> they do have distinctive different meanings among them such as to/too,
> your/you're, there, their, they're.
Depends on what substance they were being "dosed" with, I guess. :-)
But I suppose dozing might also explain it.
Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC
***** Moderator's Note *****
Perhaps Mr. Singer was making a joke about schpeel chequers?
Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:31:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: What did the USPTO really say about unlocking cell
Message-ID: <754430.15701.qm@web52707.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:38:31 -0600 (CST) John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
<<I guess T-Mobile irked me because they first said they would provide the
unlock code and then didn't. And then snotty, sarcastic rep I dealt with
the last time.>>
I've had VoiceStream/T-Mobile service now for over 10-1/2 years and
have gotten many unlock codes from them and never had a problem with
them initiating getting the unlock code for me. I didn't even have to
lie that I was going to Canada or Iran. All I needed to do was tell
them the manufacturer, the model and the IMEI and they put the request
of the code and I received it usually in 24 hours or less. The only
time I wasn't able to get the code the phone was relatively new and
they were unable to get the code from Nokia, but it was the exception.
I've only had to make sure that they knew I was requesting the subsidy
unlock code and not the PUK (phone unlock key) code from entering the
SIM PIN too many times incorrectly.
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