The Telecom Digest for January 15, 2011
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:04:30 -0500
From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Very interesting product
Message-ID: <op.vo9z1su8itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:14:48 -0500, John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:24 AM, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> John, would that be 3G of the 1700 MHz "T-Mobile USA" variety, or 3G
>> of the 1900 MHz "at&t & nearly everybody else" variety? And, any idea
>> if the GSM for voice uses a world-wide 4-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900
>> MHz) radio?
>
> What's the best way to determine this? Frankly I don't know and this
> has got to be the most poorly documented device I have ever used.
Whose network SIM are you using, and in which country?
If a T-Mo USA SIM in the USA, and you're really getting 3G speeds,
then I have to guess you've got the T-Mo brand of 1700 MHz (that at&t
doesn't use) for HSDPA.
If an at&t/cingular SIM in the USA, and you're really getting 3G
speeds, then I have to guess you've got the more universal brand of
1900 MHz for HSDPA that at&t uses (but T-Mo doesn't).
If pretty near anywhere else in the world, with pretty near anybody's
SIM, most likely the same universal 1900 MHz HSDPA.
> I have one site that claims:
>
> network:GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA
> frequency:850/900/1800/1900/2100
>From the absence of the number 1700 (and the absence of the
acronym HSDPA), I have to suspect you've not got in that device any
1700 MHz radio of the sort that T-Mo USA HSDPA would require -- and
perhaps no HSDPA service at all.
> But it also says they're made in Malaysia when mine says it's made in
> China. Yeah, it could be built in both or production was moved to
> China.
If you're really lucky, the acronym WCDMA and the frequency 2100 MHz
may mean you can use this beastie for cellular data access in Japan
and Korea, too :-) .
>>> I have never seen a new unlocked Android anything anywhere close to this
>>> price.
>>
>> Interesting find :-) . � Cheers, -- tlvp
>
> I'm really resisting the urge to carry it around work and use it as a
> phone. People think I'm strange enough. ;-) And speaking of
> strange, my email about the iPhone Fork was intended for another
> private list of phone geeks. I was sending stuff into this list and
> went into autopilot.
Well, it was perfectly welcome here, fit perfectly.
Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:52:54 -0600
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Very interesting product
Message-ID: <AANLkTimw7Y+wOFzgEOF6sKuTBQ06Lh-JsddXdaKxGQuw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:14:48 -0500, John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
>> What's the best way to determine this? Frankly I don't know and
>> this has got to be the most poorly documented device I have ever
>> used.
>
> Whose network SIM are you using, and in which country?
I'm in the US and I used both a T-Mobile and at AT&T SIM. In both
cases I had phone, SMS, and data. I did not try to determine data
speeds, I was just more curious if they worked at all.
I'm taking this to Malaysia soon where I have a Maxis/Hotlink SIM.
I'll let you know how it works.
> If a T-Mo USA SIM in the USA, and you're really getting 3G speeds,
> then I have to guess you've got the T-Mo brand of 1700 MHz (that
> at&t doesn't use) for HSDPA.
>
> If an at&t/cingular SIM in the USA, and you're really getting 3G
> speeds, then I have to guess you've got the more universal brand of
> 1900 MHz for HSDPA that at&t uses (but T-Mo doesn't).
If I have time I'll put both SIMs back in and see what sort of
connection I get.
> If you're really lucky, the acronym WCDMA and the frequency 2100
> MHz may mean you can use this beastie for cellular data access in
> Japan and Korea, too :-) .
If I get the flight I want I'll have a layover in Seoul. But I doubt
I'd go to the effort to get a SIM card for my hour or so there.
>>>> I have never seen a new unlocked Android anything anywhere close
>>>> to this price.
>>>
>>> Interesting find :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>>
>> I'm really resisting the urge to carry it around work and use it as
>> a phone. People think I'm strange enough. ;-) And speaking of
>> strange, my email about the iPhone Fork was intended for another
>> private list of phone geeks. I was sending stuff into this list and
>> went into autopilot.
>
> Well, it was perfectly welcome here, fit perfectly.
I try to be more "professional" here than on other lists where it's
just a bunch of friends shooting the breeze. :-)
John
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John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
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