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Message Digest Volume 28 : Issue 7 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: How to find out mobile carrier's web-to-sms gateway address? Macworld San Francisco 2009 Keynote Re: How to find out mobile carrier's web-to-sms gateway address? What_Carriers Aren't Eager to Tell You About Texting Re: How to find out mobile carrier's web-to-sms gateway address? Re: Restoring a 302-type telephone Re: Restoring a 302-type telephone Re: Sex Offenders in Georgia Stripped of Privacy, Must Hand Over Passwords ====== 27 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ====== Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 02:12:12 -0800 (PST) From: steven acer <dudesterr@gmail.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: How to find out mobile carrier's web-to-sms gateway address? Message-ID: <aeaca3f5-f29f-404a-964b-0efc2a4464a2@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com> On Jan 6, 7:43 pm, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: > >Is there anyway to find the e-mail to SMS gateway a mobile carrier > >uses to route email as SMS messages? I am talking about any carrier: > >I found some lists on the internet, but they don't cover all the countries. > >(http://www.mutube.com/projects/open-email-to-sms/gateway-list/) > > I wouldn't pay too much attention to lists like that.  A lot of the > entries are obviously wrong, networks that don't even offer service in > the countries listed, and I did a few spot checks trying to send > messages to my own mobile number in the UK, which didn't work. > > Outside North America, SMS is caller pays, but there's no caller to > charge for an e-mail gateway.  That means that free gateways tend to > be very limited, typically only available to a carrier's own > customers. > > >If I can send sms messages from a web interface my carrier provides > >this means that this carrier has a gateway of the ones I am talking > >about.  I need a way to find these addresses regardless of the > >carrier and the country. > > If this project is urgent enough to be worth spending a small amount > of money, Clickatell's paid SMS gateway works great.  They offer a > zillion ways to send messages, including their own email gateway > (where messages have to include your account number and a password) > and a nice HTTP POST interface that I use. > > Regards, > John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", > Information Superhighwayman wanna-be,http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor > "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. well no it's not urgent, i am just doing it for the pleasure of hacking into the greedy carrier's own palace :D. If I am able to send sms from my carrier's web interfaced app. this should mean that it has a web to sms gateway. I just want a way to find its address or name. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:24:11 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Macworld San Francisco 2009 Keynote Message-ID: <p06240866c58a0d1cc5d0@[10.0.1.6]> Macworld San Francisco 2009 Keynote Watch Philip Schiller, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Product Marketing, unveil Apple's latest innovations at Macworld 2009. See the video-on-demand event right here, exclusively in QuickTime and MPEG-4. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/keynote/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:58:20 GMT From: tlvp <PmUiRsGcE.TtHlEvSpE@att.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: How to find out mobile carrier's web-to-sms gateway address? Message-ID: <op.undkblcswqrt3j@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:38:31 -0500, steven acer <dudesterr@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there anyway to find the e-mail to SMS gateway a mobile carrier > uses to route email as SMS messages? I am talking about any carrier: I > found some lists on the internet, but they don't cover all the countries. > (http://www.mutube.com/projects/open-email-to-sms/gateway-list/) > > If I can send sms messages from a web interface my carrier provides > this means that this carrier has a gateway of the ones I am talking > about. I need a way to find these addresses regardless of the carrier > and the country. And I'd particularly welcome such data for the Polish providers Idea, Plus, Era, and Orange. Even better would be the added information, which 3-digit cellular prefixes are proprietary to which of these various providers. Thanks, and cheers, -- tlvp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:51:09 -0500 From: John Stahl <aljon@stny.rr.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: What_Carriers Aren't Eager to Tell You About Texting Not sure if this has hit our Telecom Digest yet but if it hasn't, here is the link to the article from The NY Times regarding the subject: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28digi.htm?_r=1 In the article, which indicates that this issue had been initiated by (from the article): "...Senator Herb Kohl, Democrat of Wisconsin and the chairman of the Senate antitrust subcommittee, wanted to look behind the curtain. He was curious about the doubling of prices for text messages charged by the major American carriers from 2005 to 2008, during a time when the industry consolidated from six major companies to four...", there is quite a detailing about how the carriers limit the size of the text messages (SMS) to have it fit in the data "stream" and then indicates that:"...Once one understands that a text message travels wirelessly as a stowaway within a control channel, one sees the carriers' pricing plans in an entirely new light... " According to an on-line Yahoo! techie blog which has picked up on this (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/114665), "...What's next? The price-fixing lawsuits which allege that the carriers are illegally colluding to set messaging prices artificially high. 20 such suits have already been filed around the country." This could be one of those areas which the Wireless guys will wish that they did differently when history about this is read "down the road" a ways. I'll want to follow this issue so I can make sure I get on any possible resultant lists for refunds! John Stahl Aljon Enterprises Telecom/Data Consultantcy ***** Moderator's Note ***** PLEASE use only "plain text" message format when submitting posts to the Digest. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: How to find out mobile carrier's web-to-sms gateway address? Message-ID: <742779.78306.qm@web52705.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:06:15 -0800 (PST) steven acer <dudesterr@gmail.com> writes: <<Is there anyway to find the e-mail to SMS gateway a mobile carrier uses to route email as SMS messages? I am talking about any carrier: I found some lists on the internet, but they don't cover all the countries. (http://www.mutube.com/projects/open-email-to-sms/gateway-list/) If I can send sms messages from a web interface my carrier provides this means that this carrier has a gateway of the ones I am talking about. I need a way to find these addresses regardless of the carrier and the country.>> First of all mobile email addresses for mobile numbers is not very common outside of North America. Most carriers do not have email addresses for their subscribers telephone numbers as we do in the US e.g. 3115552368@txt.att.net or 3115552368@tmomail.net, etc. For US and Canadian numbers there is/was a service called teleflip where you could just address a number as 10-digits@teleflip.com (e.g.3115552368@teleflip.com) and it would be delivered to the proper carrier. I haven't used the service in a long time so I don't even know if the service is still around or still exists. ***** Moderator's Note ***** PLEASE turn on "line wrap" before composing posts for the Digest. I have to edit your post by hand if the lines aren't wrapped. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:51:22 -0500 From: Will Roberts <oldbear@arctos.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Restoring a 302-type telephone Message-ID: <0MKp8S-1LKdV20Hug-000SkX@mrelay.perfora.net> In Telecom Digest, Al Gillis wrote: >Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:32:36 -0800 >From: "Al Gillis" <al.1020@hotmail.com> >To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu >Subject: Restoring a 302-type telephone > >I want to make a dial card (the paper thingus that goes behind the plastic >window in the middle of the dial) but don't know what fonts to use. I've >seen photos of such cards that are black with a white window where the >telephone number was typed. Above the window was the text "Wait" (in white >characters on a black background) and below the window was the text "For >Dial Tone" also white on black. The font used for the text was a sort of >script and the telephone number was typed in a fairly block-ish font. >Anyone have an idea how to replicate these fonts in a Windows font? Here are some images of dial centers which may be helpful to you: http://www.oldphoneman.com/Partsdailgif.htm http://www.oldphoneman.com/Partsdialjepg.htm and Phoneco, a phone restoration supplier, will be happy to sell you sheets of phone dial centers for a couple of bucks. See their catalog page at: http://www.phonecoinc.com/category.asp?rpage=search&category=Net#01012 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:32:40 -0500 From: Will Roberts <oldbear@arctos.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Restoring a 302-type telephone Message-ID: <0MKp8S-1LKdD81S9B-000T0p@mrelay.perfora.net> In Telecom Digest, Al Gillis wrote: >Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:32:36 -0800 >From: "Al Gillis" <al.1020@hotmail.com> >To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu >Subject: Restoring a 302-type telephone > >I'm restoring an old Western Electric 302-type telephone for a woman who is >retiring from a former Bell System company. She's like it as a working >conversation piece. I've got a couple questions. > >What should I use to clean the bakelite case and restore some of the luster >Western Electric built into it several decades ago? AmorAll? 409? Or >some home-made mixture? > >I want to make a dial card (the paper thingus that goes behind the plastic >window in the middle of the dial) but don't know what fonts to use. I've >seen photos of such cards that are black with a white window where the >telephone number was typed. Above the window was the text "Wait" (in white >characters on a black background) and below the window was the text "For >Dial Tone" also white on black. The font used for the text was a sort of >script and the telephone number was typed in a fairly block-ish font. >Anyone have an idea how to replicate these fonts in a Windows font? > >And any other cool restoration ideas are welcome! I probably should have responded to this post sooner. If anyone is interested in restoring classic telephone equipment, one of the best sources of information is the Telephone Collectors International has a web site at http://www.telephonecollectors.org/ In addition, there is a lively moderated discussion forum and mailing list for the group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/singingwires The Western Electric 302 is a true classic and came in many flavors. The folks on the TCI mailing list forum will be able to tell you all kinds of useful stuff ranging from how to clean your 302 to whether the handset cord should be rubber or cloth covered (depends upon when the phone was manufactured) to things about the internals of the phone and dial mechanism. If you want to see where the 302 fits into the history of Bell System dial telephones, I have a web page at http://www.arctos.com/dial BTW, here's something to think about: Modern telephone switching is all digital -- but there are line cards used at your central office which simulate dial tone, ringing and busy tones, provide sufficient ring voltage to drive an electro-mechanical brass ringer, and to convert make-and-break dialing pulses to digital signalling. All this is done to make the modern network backwardly-compatible with virtually any dial telephone made over the past 90 years. Regards, Will ***** Moderator's Note ***** I've worked in some offices that would still respond to _incoming_ ring voltage by connecting the line to an operator who would handle "manual service" calls. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:10:21 -0500 From: "MC" <for.address.look@www.ai.uga.edu.slash.mc> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Sex Offenders in Georgia Stripped of Privacy, Must Hand Over Passwords Message-ID: <cgc9l.959$Jn4.489@bignews7.bellsouth.net> >>I get really worried when the state starts to demonize groups of people. My experience (based, inter alia, on church work) is that demonization is done most avidly by people who do not feel themselves entirely innocent and who want somebody else to look down on. Also, prudishness arises more readily from licentiousness than from morality. I think there's a good bit of this going on here. You're a sex offender if she's 17 3/4, you're a cool dude if she's 18 1/4... No principle of morality is operating there. 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