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The Telecom Digest for January 01, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 1 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:

Happy New Year!(Telecom Digest Moderator)
Re: CNAM for toll-free numbers(Wes Leatherock)
Re: USA broadband isn't broadband per FCC report... (David Clayton)
Re: CNAM for toll-free numbers(Adam H. Kerman)
Re: iPhone rage: boy hit for refusing to switch off on plane (Adam H. Kerman)
Re: USA broadband isn't broadband per FCC report... (Neal McLain)


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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:15:44 -0500 From: Telecom Digest Moderator <redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Happy New Year! Message-ID: <20110101051544.GA11927@telecom.csail.mit.edu> Thank you all for your support and help in 2010. I appreciate your suggestions and kind words more than I can say, and I'm going to use your advice to improve this publication as much as I can in 2011. Here are my resolutions for the new year: 1. We'll have more information about VoIP and other non-traditional technologies. 2. I'll add more to our archives about the networks, technologies, and management of both the Bell System and of other companies. 3. I'll seek out and publish opinions from industry leaders. Happy New Year! Bill -- Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:37:47 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: CNAM for toll-free numbers Message-ID: <687053.54122.qm@web111711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 12/30/10, Moderator wrote as a Moderator's note: > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > While there isn't a "root" LIDB database, the accuracy of the > existing ones could be dramatically improved by allowing them to > copy some items from the E911 database. For obvious reasons, the > E911 database providers pay a lot of attention to getting address > info correct, and those fields could be combined with information > from other databases to improve LIDB quality. > > For less obvious reasons, the E911 database isn't currently > available for this purpose. Any sharing plan would have to include > "Trusted and Neutral Third Party" data escrow to prevent divulging > the locations of battered women's shelters, etc. Many customers haved reasons, good or not, for having their names and numbers not disclosed. The E911 database lists all these because the emergency responders need to know. The general public does not. There is a note in most phone books that the E911 PSAP will have all the informations about you, and if you want it not to be disclosed to them call the agency on its listed number, not 911. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 09:28:33 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: USA broadband isn't broadband per FCC report... Message-ID: <pan.2010.12.31.22.28.30.94526@myrealbox.com> > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > I used to try to explain to people that the RS-232 wiring specs for > "DCE" and "DTE" were not synonomous with "male" and "female". IBM proved > me wrong. > :-) And I used to have issues trying to get people to understand the correct way to wire a full null-modem adaptor/cable, rather than the incorrect method 99% of them used (and was documented....) > You'll get over it, David: the non-technical public always demands > acronyms and buzzwords to assign to things they don't, and can't, > understand. > The non-technical public I can forgive Bill, it's the rest of us that do know the difference yet still give in and accept the bogus definitions that I have trouble accepting. I continually have to battle erroneous assumptions and misconceptions from the non-tech people I deal with in my various technology areas, and while it can be far easier to let people live with their bad ideas it is irresponsible (as well as career-threatening to me) if something that I knew needed attention was ignored just to avoid trying to set them straight (no matter how tough that can be - for various reasons). It may be convenient to pander to ignorance in technical matters, but does it really do anyone (except marketers) much good in the long run? Bah humbug I say, if us pedants can't keep a little of our domain intact in an area that demands accuracy for its basic function, where can we then go? :-) -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 02:36:42 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: CNAM for toll-free numbers Message-ID: <ifm3vp$r8a$1@news.albasani.net> Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com> wrote: >I ran into an issue like this at one of my employer's offices. Our >outgoing numeric caller ID (not a toll free number) was being >displayed with four different CNAMs (Calling Names) depending on which >local phone company the recipient of each call was subscribed to. >Three of the four names were wrong, and one of the wrong ones was the >name of a competitor. >In the process of troubleshooting this issue, we found that: >- Each local phone company that receives an incoming call from another > company (whether local or long distance) receives only the 10-digit > calling number, but no name. The name must be looked up in a Line > Information Database (LIDB) to which the recipient's phone company > subscribes. >- There are on the order of 10 LIDB providers in North America > including Neustar, TNS, Qwest, Sprint and Verisign. The ones that > have familiar phone company names are run by corporate divisions > separate from the named phone company. They all sell LIDB services > to both related and unrelated phone companies. There are 10 major sources of potential error? Hideous. I would be very greatful if would post the list, with contacts, for comment. >- Unlike the public DNS system used on the internet, there is > apparently no authoritative "name server" which will always return > the customer's desired CNAM for a given number and could therefore > be used to keep all other LIDB's up to date. Of course there is an authoritative answer. It comes from the database the network the call originated on contributes records to. Linking this with our recent discussion of Local Number Portability, this mess is an example of how things go wrong when information isn't managed neutrally. Also, there is an economic incentive to supply incorrect information on incoming calls. If the called party and the calling party are on two different networks, there is a charge to the inbound network to dip the database of a foreign network. To avoid this charge, the inbound network instead dips the database you described instead. On that database, records don't expire at times they should, like changing to another network per Local Number Portability, change of billing name, or disconnect then reconnect at a new service location with an unrelated subscriber. The incentive isn't "Supply accurate information," but "Supply something, anything at all." Now, one hopes that a telephone company, no matter how many subscribers it has, is capable of updating its own database with information about changes in billing name, disconnects, telephone numbers donated to Local Number Portability, and new connections/numbers received from LNP, even if foreign networks refuse to pay for the dip. But I know of instances in which a business's outbound trunks displayed CNAM of individuals (presumably the subscribers who once had those lines) when calling numbers belonging to the same telephone company. But the economic incentives are all wrong. Why should the called party's network be charged for CNAM? CNAM should be forwarded from the originating network for all calls as in enhancement to ANI. I think ANI is the correct model, not DNS. >- Since we were not the customer who saw the wrong name displayed, we > had to open a trouble ticket as a non-customer, which means the > far-end phone company could not verify who we were through an > account number and had to trust us to give the right CNAM. The > three companies displaying the wrong name (which were corrected) > were Cablevision Optimum, Verizon, and Service Electric (cable). I'm amazed that, as a nonsubscriber, you were even able to open a ticket. When I went through this with Comcast, the ticket had to be opened under the account of a Digital Voice subscriber. Of course, the correct solution to the error is to expire the record, which forces a new dip the database of the originating record. But these companies avoid paying for these dips like the plague, even though it's got to cost them more to perform their own data entry than the fraction of a cent the dip costs. >- CNAMs are only displayed by the recipient's landline phone company > (could be copper, fiber optic, cable TV or internet VoIP provider). > You can't test for correct CNAM by calling to a cell phone. Cell > phones use the address book inside the phone to come up with a name > and don't use LIDB for that purpose. >I'll bet the same applies when the originating 10-digit number is >toll-free. You would need to find the names of each affected end-user >phone company that is displaying the wrong name and have each one fix >it. Then wait, and test it. You will have no idea if a rural >independent in western Nebraska is dispalying the wrong name until >someone there complains to you. Overall, not a stellar system. Except that toll-free numbers CANNOT originate calls. A toll-free number either points to a group of inbound trunks or an ordinary phone line, which gives its own number in ANI. Outbound calls from a call center originate on outbound trunks with their own ANI. >***** Moderator's Note ***** >While there isn't a "root" LIDB database, the accuracy of the existing >ones could be dramatically improved by allowing them to copy some >items from the E911 database. . . . "Root" is the database of the originating network, where all such information should originate from. An E911 database is a third party, and shouldn't be used as source.
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 02:39:53 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: iPhone rage: boy hit for refusing to switch off on plane Message-ID: <ifm45p$r8a$2@news.albasani.net> David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> wrote: >I'm still waiting for the inevitable puns from this group re the iPhone >and "battery charges"... >***** Moderator's Note ***** >Ah, but "Assault and Battery" is different than "Assault with a battery"! That would be "battery with a battery". ***** Moderator's Note ***** He won't be charged with anything that a high-powered lawyer can't use to polarize a jury. Bill "There's a million of 'em" Horne Moderator
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:45:52 -0800 (PST) From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: USA broadband isn't broadband per FCC report... Message-ID: <7e32ba64-b23b-4e51-a4b0-f55f40e17158@r29g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> On Dec 30, 7:09 pm, Wes Leatherock <wleat...@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- On Tue, 12/28/10, Neal McLain <nmcl...@annsgarden.com> wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > Fortunately, "cable modem" has largely died out, but, unfortunately, > > "HSI" hasn't caught on as a replacement. I've heard it called > > "cable internet" and "cable DSL." I've even heard it called just > > "DSL" by folks who apparently think "DSL" is a universal term for > > HSI. > > Cox Cable in Oklahoma City (and I presume in other places they serve) > within the last few months have been advertising a special including > a "cable modem" for one cent if you buy their high speed internet > service. > > Wes Leatherock > wleat...@yahoo.com > wesr...@aol.com Cox is using the correct terminology: is uses "cable modem" to refer to the modem itself, not the HSI service. Neal McLain
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