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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:30:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 51

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Telecom Update (Canada) #418, February 2, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones (jbl)
    Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones (Joseph)
    EME was Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones (noname)
    Faked CallerID Info? (Chironex)
    Re: Help With Call-Attendant System? (Carl Navarro)
    802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/wireless Antenna to Home (O K)
    Free Legal Downloads For S6/Month. DRM Free (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo Here, There - TiVo Everywhere (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo Kicks Off the Year with Lower Pricing (Monty Solomon)
    T-Mobile and Comcast Strategic Marketing Alliance (Monty Solomon)

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** Telus and TWU Go to Binding Arbitration
** Nortel Posts First Profit in Seven Years
** CRTC Extends Winback Prohibition
** Allstream and Call-Net Want Backlog CSAs Denied
** Worm Hits SCO With Denial of Service Attack
** MTS to Vote on Income Trust Proposal
** Bell Reorganizes Western Operations
** Telcos to Provide Ethernet Links to Competitors
** Allstream Offers Ethernet Private Line
** Cogeco Boosts Internet Access Speed
** Investment Group Buys Persona
** Financial Results
       Aliant
       Avaya
       Sierra Wireless
** Issues for Wireless Data Planners

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TELUS AND TWU GO TO BINDING ARBITRATION: On January 28, the Canadian
Industrial Relations Board ruled that Telus had violated the Canada
Labour Code and "irreparably undermined the union's efforts in
achieving a collective agreement." It ordered the company to offer the
Telecommunications Workers Union the option of binding arbitration. On
Friday, the TWU Executive voted unanimously to accept binding
arbitration.

Also last week:

** Telus submitted a final offer to the union, then withdrew
    it after the CIRB Order.

** Over 86% of Telus employees represented by the TWU voted
    to authorize strike action. If the union had not accepted
    binding arbitration, it could have called a strike on 72
    hours notice this week.

** The B.C. Supreme Court granted an injunction blocking the
    TWU from showing commercials that parody Telus's animal-
    based advertising. Telus said the commercials violate its
    copyright.

NORTEL POSTS FIRST PROFIT IN SEVEN YEARS: Nortel Networks earned
US$732 million in 2003, its first profit since 1997.  World revenues
for the year were $9.81 billion, down from $10.57 billion in 2002, but
fourth quarter revenues were up 12% over the previous year.

CRTC EXTENDS WINBACK PROHIBITION: CRTC Decision 2004-4 responds to
Call-Net's "jump start to local competition" application filed last
June (see Telecom Update #385). The decision:

** rejects Call-Net's request for a 50% reduction in local
    loop rates;

** extends the "winback" period, during which incumbent
    telcos are prohibited from trying to win back customers
    who have taken service from a CLEC, to 12 months;

** orders incumbents to provide CLEC customers served on
    unbundled loops the same level of installation and repair
    service that the ILEC provides to its own customers;

** orders ILECs to provide "prominent" reference, on bills
    and their Web sites, to a new section on the CRTC website
    that will inform consumers about local competition.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-4.htm

ALLSTREAM AND CALL-NET WANT BACKLOG CSAs DENIED: Allstream and
Call-Net have asked the CRTC to reject all pending telco proposals for
Customer Specific Arrangement tariffs, and to order Bell Canada to
cease providing service under these contracts. They want the
Commission to impose a moratorium on new CSAs until the Federal Court
rules on Bell's appeal of a CRTC ruling requiring disclosure of the
details of the tariffs. (See Telecom Update #405)

WORM HITS SCO WITH DENIAL OF SERVICE ATTACK: On the weekend, computers
infected by the MyDoom.A worm launched a Denial of Service attack on
SCO, the Utah-based software company that claims to own part of the
code used in Linux, putting its website out of service. MyDoom.B is
expected to launch a similar attack on Microsoft on Tuesday.

** Microsoft and SCO Group have each offered US$250,000
    rewards for information leading to conviction of the
    authors of the worms that have infected hundreds of
    thousands of computers and accounted for over 30% of
    Internet traffic at peak.

MTS TO VOTE ON INCOME TRUST PROPOSAL: The Board of Directors of
Manitoba Telecom Services says it will put a proposal to convert the
company into an income trust to a vote at its next annual meeting. The
Board took no position on the proposal.

BELL REORGANIZES WESTERN OPERATIONS: Bell Canada has placed both its
Bell Mobility and Bell West operations in Alberta and B.C. under a
single executive. Paul Healey, head of Bell Mobility in the two
provinces, will become President of Bell's Western Canadian Region.

** Randy Reynolds, formerly head of Bell West, is retiring.

TELCOS TO PROVIDE ETHERNET LINKS TO COMPETITORS: CRTC Telecom Decision
2004-5 gives interim approval to Ethernet access tariffs filed by Bell
Canada and Telus (see Telecom Update #370, 397), including Ethernet
connecting arrangements for competitor use, and orders the other major
incumbents to file similar tariffs.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-5.htm

ALLSTREAM OFFERS ETHERNET PRIVATE LINE: Allstream has launched
Ethernet Private Line service at 1 Gbps within and between Montreal,
Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, and Vancouver.  More sites are to be added
later this year.

COGECO BOOSTS INTERNET ACCESS SPEED: Cogeco Cable has increased the
download speed of its Standard High-Speed Internet service from 3 Mbps
to 5 Mbps, and of its High Speed Pro service from 5 Mbps to up to 10
Mbps. Upload speeds have been raised to 640 Kbps and 1 Mbps,
respectively.

INVESTMENT GROUP BUYS PERSONA: A group of investors including TD
Capital Canadian Private Equity Partners and CIBC Capital Partners has
agreed to buy Persona Inc, Canada's sixth- largest cable operator, for
$406 million. The deal requires approval by two-thirds of the
company's shareholders.

FINANCIAL RESULTS:

** Aliant's 2003 profit was $185.3 million, up from $142.2
    million in 2002. Total revenue grew 1.1% to $2.07 billion.

** Avaya reports September-December world revenues of US$971
    million, 3% more than the same period the previous year.
    Net income of $10 million compares to a loss of $121
    million in 2002.

** Sierra Wireless had a profit of $1.5 million in 2003,
    compared to a loss of $38.4 million the previous year.
    Revenues for the year were $34.6 million, an increase of
    54%.

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From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:28:58 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.50.1@telecom-digest.org>, Gail M. Hall <gmhall@apk.net>
wrote:

> What struck me was that when they used their cell phones, the tones
> were sounded as the buttons were pressed instead of the way my current
> cell phone works.  Mine makes a beep with each phone press, but I
> don't hear the normal phone tones until I press "Talk" on my phone.

My cell phone (an Audiovox on VZW) plays the touchtone if you dial a
digit (or * or #), or a beep if you press any other button.  I don't
hear any tones after I press "send".

On the other hand, my cordless phone at home does act the way you
describe, if you dial before pressing "talk".

> Another thing in the story was that they would immediately enter the
> numbers over and over again and *then* get some kind of beep that
> indicated they didn't have a signal.  My phone has a little graphic on
> it that indicates signal strength from the time I turn on the phone.
> It also has a graphic that indicates battery power.  I would know
> without entering any numbers if I had a signal or not.  I would not
> have to dial any number first.

A lot of people might not look first; Columbo, with all his technical
"expertise", for instance, was very new to his mobile phone and
possibly had no idea what all the little doodads in the display meant.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor' Note: Television and Hollywood tend to take
> some liberties with the realities of cell phones in their productions. 
> I do not think any cellphones ever worked  differently than the way
> they do now.  PAT] 

Yes, but in the case of the phones, the liberties were not all that
huge (this time).

/JBL

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:52:42 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:05:10 -0500, Gail M. Hall <gmhall@apk.net>
wrote:

> What struck me was that when they used their cell phones, the tones
> were sounded as the buttons were pressed instead of the way my current
> cell phone works.  Mine makes a beep with each phone press, but I
> don't hear the normal phone tones until I press "Talk" on my phone.

I'm guessing that it may may be a case of different manufacturers
implementing "dialing" differently.  On all Nokias I've ever used as
well as an Ericsson model that I have when you press the keys to
"dial" you get regular DTMF "touch tones."

> Another thing in the story was that they would immediately enter the
> numbers over and over again and *then* get some kind of beep that
> indicated they didn't have a signal.  

Again, this probably has more to do with the way a manufacturer
designs their phones.  Some phones will beep when they go out of
range.  Some phones will have blinking light that shows constantly
while the phone is in use while others do not.  Others will change
colours as they go out of range or have something else happen such as
running low on battery.  You can't really make an absolute statement.
Along with that is film/TV producers don't always picture phones in a
realistic manner.  I don't think I can count the number of times I've
seen someone go to use a "fortress" type pay phone and when they
insert their coins you hear a "ding-ding" like you used to get with
the old three slot pay phones or having a Trimline phone ring and the
ring you hear is the dual gong "500" type ringer rather than the muted
gong you should hear from a Trimline.

> My parents had a satellite dish for their TV back around 1980.  It was
> a big thing.  At first it could get lots of channels, but eventually
> the companies started jumbling their signals so people would have to
> buy a service to descramble the signals to see the channels.  By the
> '90's, that satellite dish was essentially useless.  

The service is still very much alive though the popular satellite
service is now the mini-dish rather than the BUD (big ugly dish.)
True there's not as much free programming as there was, but if you
have the money there's just as much programming available now as there
was then.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

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From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: EME was Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones
Organization: ATCC
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 05:20:59 GMT


In article <telecom23.50.1@telecom-digest.org>, gmhall@apk.net says:

> On 12 Jan 2004 07:01:25 -0800, in comp.dcom.telecom message
> <telecom23.18.6@telecom-digest.org>, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa
> Hancock) wrote:

>> I saw an old episode of the TV "Superman" (mid 50s) and 
>> noticed how today's phones would've made a difference.

> On another issue, I noticed that the bad guy had a big TV, which he
> said was hooked to a satellite with 200 channels.  I didn't see a box.
> Also, there was no remote, so he had to use the TV's on/off button to
> turn it on and off.

> My parents had a satellite dish for their TV back around 1980.  It was
> a big thing.  At first it could get lots of channels, but eventually
> the companies started jumbling their signals so people would have to
> buy a service to descramble the signals to see the channels.  By the
> '90's, that satellite dish was essentially useless.  My brother-in-law
> took down the dish last summer and has plans to make something else
> out of it -- maybe something to let plants climb on or something.  

They make great EME antennae for us hams out there. EME being Earth-
Moon-Earth as in bouncing signals off of it.

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From: Chironex <noboby@nospam.com>
Subject: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:36:09 -0500


I recently hosted a very priveliged conference call using an online
calling service.  Once the call was complete, I received a list of the
people connected to the call, and noticed that there was an additional
caller who was not authorized.  It was not the conference call
service, nor was it any of my employees as I can account for all of
their caller ID info.

Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
unused area code!

Is this possible and how the heck did someone do this????

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From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Help With Call-Attendant System?
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 09:49:19 -0500
Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America


On 30 Jan 2004 12:32:13 -0800, jcoronat@paulbunyan.net (James) wrote:

> Can anyone help in constructing an automated telephone answering
> system for me?

> The idea is to allow a caller to sample one or more long books over
> the phone. Each of the one or more books will be playing continuously,
> and a caller will simply tap in to a particular recording at whatever
> point it happens to be when the caller calls in.

So does this mean I can listen to an entire book on your dime two
minutes at a time?

> It should work as follows: the caller dials our toll-free number and
> connects to our system ("System" - the one you supply me). The System
> should then:

> 1. automatically answer the call and play an outgoing message of 1-2
> mins ("Hello and thank you for calling! To hear Book One, press");

> 2.then automatically connect to a live feed-through for 2-4 minutes
> minutes (this is one of the continuously playing CD players or tape
> players);

> 3. then automatically disconnect or fade out the live feed-through and
> play a short termination message ("Thank you for listening. For
> additional information write");

> 4. then automatically disconnect the call. 

Without spending more than 30 seconds on the answer, it is possible to
do this in two ways.  One is the standard voice mail system.  The
other is the equipment used for time and temperature.  A vox file is
fairly easy to construct in software with the right equipment.  If it
were my system, I'd select a random or specific passage from each book
and make vox files of those passages.  Now you can transfer them to
the VM or T&T system and give them locations.

> To start the System, I'd insert my book CD or audiocassette into a CD
> or tape player, set the player on "continuous play" mode, and jack it
> into the live feed-through port on the machine you supply. If the
> system had more than one port, I'd jack additional CD players, each
> playing different books, into the other ports. Then I want to walk
> away and have it service callers unattended.

> To summarize: when callers dial in, they'll hear an introductory
> message, then 2 to 4 minutes of the book's text at whatever point the
> recording happens to be at that moment; then, a short message telling
> what to do if more information is desired. At the end, the system
> disconnects the caller automatically.

> Does anyone know how I could assemble a system of telephone equipment
> that will do this?

My guess is that you can have 4-16 ports and a whole boatload of
sample books on a VM system for less than $4K.  It requires a computer
and software(or maybe the same computer) to sample the Audiobook, and
just a very small learning curve to slot the books in the right
"mailbox".

Carl Navarro

> Sincerely,

> James.

------------------------------

Reply-To: O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e@lvcm.com>
From: O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e@lvcm.com>
Subject: 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/Wireless Antenna to Network
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:57:03 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


I have a question about adding a wireless antenna or signal booster to
my home network.

My current setup is I have a Linksys WRT54G wireless router which
supports B and G infrastructure.  I have a 802.11b Wireless PCI card
in my PC.  In my condo, I can verify that the wireless portion of the
network between the wireless router and my PC are functioning.  I then
take my PC to another floor in my building, and I get little to no
signal.  I would like to add either a signal booster and/or an antenna
to make my network functional.

 From the reading that I have done, I can't determine where the
antenna needs to be installed if I go this route.  Is it installed on
the PCI portion of the network, or the router portion of the network.
As the router TX's and RX's, is the problem with the low transmission
power from the router and therefore I need a wireless antenna on the
PC, or is the problem the low transmission power from the PCI card to
the router upstairs?  I can't figure out which hardware I need to make
this functional.

Please contact me directly at okorkie3@cox.net (remove the *)


Thanks, 

Owen

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 00:09:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Free Legal Downloads For $6/Month. DRM Free


Free legal downloads for $6 a month. DRM free. The artists get paid. 
We explain how ...

By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco

Imagine a world where music and movies could be freely exchanged
online, where artists are recompensed and the labels don't lose a
cent, and where 12-year old girls need not fear harboring an MP3 of
their favorite TV show theme tune on their PC.

All that could be yours for less than the price of a subscription to
Napster: for less than $6 a month. Harvard University Professor Terry
Fisher has completed the first comprehensive examination of various
alternative models and the one we outline here offers such tantalizing
social benefits, that even the most jaded sceptic ought to pay
attention. Professor Fisher belongs to the school of forensic sceptics
rather than the school of wide-eyed techno-utopians, and he's spent
three years trying to make the sums add up. We think it's worth a
look, and we think you ought to take a look too. (To make his task
even more difficult, Fisher's license model also takes on the
additional onerous task of compensating Hollywood, too).

How does it work? Let's look at the sums: what level of compensation 
do the labels, studios and artists need to make it worthwhile?


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/35260.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 02:01:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Here, There - TiVo Everywhere


Stephen Williams

In "Ghostbusters," one of the running gags that was assimilated into
the lexicon of pop culture occurs when Bill Murray is attacked by the
ghost.

"I've been slimed!" he shrieks.

Well, I've been TiVoed.

I came face to face with this recent electronic dependency at the 
Consumer Electronics Show just past in Las Vegas. In fact, the 
spectre of TiVo was ubiquitous at CES.

With more than a dozen products set to launch this year, TiVo 
continues to solidify its expanding niche in home video and beyond. 
While the DVD recorder still seems to me the logical successor to the 
VCR, the DVD recorder-with-TiVo now seems more logical.

The digital recording technology - or near-perfect copies of it -
showed up as well in home networking products, in satellite broadcast
systems, in cable TV boxes; and plans are in place to invade the space
of satellite radio networks Sirius and XM.


http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-plgear3643969jan27,0,1537321.column

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:09:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Kicks Off the Year with Lower Pricing


Company Announces All-Time Low $199 MSRP for TiVo(R) Series2(TM)
                    Digital Video Recorders

SAN JOSE, Calif., Feb. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO)
today announced a price change that will for the first time, push the
entry price point on the TiVo(R) Series2(TM) DVR to under $200 at
leading retailers across the country. TiVo Series2 DVRs will be
available starting at a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP)
of $199 for the 40-hour, and $299 for the 80-hour model.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40373092

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:11:02 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: T-Mobile and Comcast Announce Strategic Marketing Alliance


     T-Mobile and Comcast Announce Strategic Marketing Alliance

Companies Team Up for Customers to Experience Wireless Broadband Internet
       Service On the Go

BELLEVUE, Wash. and PHILADELPHIA, Feb. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Comcast Cable
and T-Mobile USA, Inc. today announced a strategic marketing alliance
to offer the T-Mobile HotSpot Wi-Fi Internet service to Comcast's
nearly five million high- speed Internet customers.  With today's
announcement, Comcast customers can experience the convenience,
reliability and value of a T-Mobile wireless broadband connection when
they're away from home, via Wi-Fi, at the more than 4,000 T-Mobile
HotSpot locations nationwide.  As part of this strategic marketing
alliance, Comcast high-speed Internet customers will receive a special
offer when they sign up for T-Mobile HotSpot through their Comcast
portal homepage.

Comcast customers who subscribe to the T-Mobile HotSpot service can
surf the Web, check email or view streaming media at wireless
broadband speeds with a Wi-Fi enabled laptop or PDA at T-Mobile
HotSpot locations.  T-Mobile operates the largest commercial Wi-Fi
network of its kind in the U.S. and Comcast is the nation's largest
provider of high-speed Internet service.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40374961

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    Mydoom Computer Virus Launches Record Attack on SCO Web Site (ptownson)
    Justin and Janet Top Super Bowl Show According to Annual (Monty Solomon)
    Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S. (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Sam Etler)
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From: ptownson <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Mydoom Computer Virus Launches Record Attack on SCO Web Site 
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:21:41 -0600


Here is the grim story as reported on Bloomberg earlier today. It
appears over 250,000 computers are attacking SCO, which has been 
shut down since Saturday. Tomorrow, Tuesday, the trouble-makers are
starting on Microsoft's web site in the same way.  

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=3Demail&refer=3Dnews_index&sid=3D=
azXE8LVs80lU


PAT

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:53:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Justin and Janet Top Super Bowl Show


     UPDATE: Justin and Janet Top Super Bowl Show According to Annual
     TiVo Audience Measurement Analysis

'Wardrobe Malfunction' Most Replayed Moment TiVo Has Ever Measured

       Commercials and Half Time Show More Compelling for Viewers Than
                             Action on the Field

SAN JOSE, Calif., Feb. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Justin Timberlake
and Janet Jackson stole the show during Sunday's Super Bowl,
attracting almost twice as many viewers as the most thrilling moments
on the field, according to an annual measurement of second-by-second
viewership in TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO) households.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40381041

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:15:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading away in U.S.


By Ben Berkowitz

LOS ANGELES, Feb 2 (Reuters) - As a fashion color, gray is
the new black, thin batteries are in and you're not in vogue if
you don't have the latest ringtone.

As the U.S. wireless market grows, the cell phone is evolving into a
phone in name only as calling becomes almost secondary to a host of
other functions.

After years of trailing Japan and Western Europe, where cell phones
have long had color screens, e-mail, music, video games, cameras and
other accessories that make American cell phones look backward in
comparison, handset makers are finally pushing a new generation of
units on the domestic market that offer the full range of functions
available elsewhere.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40380798

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 13:41:30 CST
From: Sam Etler <etler@cs.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?


> Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
> unused area code!

> Is this possible and how the heck did someone do this????

There's a lot of ways to do it, but anyone with a dedicated ISDN PRI
connection can set the Calling Party Number (Caller ID) field to
whatever they want.  Not only can you set it to a fake area code or
prefix, but most networks allow you to send from 0 to 15 or more
digits.  AT&T's 4ESS network allows up to 17 though some digits may be
stripped when the call enters another carrier's network.

Now, setting your billing number is an entirely different and much more
difficult matter.


sam

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I *thought* (there I go, thinking for
myself again) that sometime in the past two weeks a rule saying
correct caller ID information had to be sent, whenever possible. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: 2 Feb 2004 23:02:32 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
> unused area code!

> Is this possible and how the heck did someone do this????

Most likely: he called from a PBX with ISDN trunks that permit the
PBX to send any caller ID it wants.

Second most likely: he has a box that sends cl-id chirps that fooled
the conferencing system.

John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

------------------------------

From: It-Stop T&M <sales@it-stop.com>
Organization: It-Stop Test Equipment
Subject: It-Stop Seeks Test Equipment 
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:42:08 -0800


Hello, 

It-Stop has an immediate requirement for the following:

1 HP/ Agilent 8720D 

1 Tektronix TDS 3054B Oscilloscope

Please let me know if you can help.

Thanks, 

Pete Zeiner
It-Stop.com
831-685-9441

------------------------------

From: J Kelly <jkelly@news_remove_guy.com>
Subject: Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones
Date: 2 Feb 2004 12:58:31 -0800
Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com]


In article <telecom23.50.1@telecom-digest.org>, Gail M. Hall says:

> What struck me was that when they used their cell phones, the tones
> were sounded as the buttons were pressed instead of the way my current
> cell phone works.  Mine makes a beep with each phone press, but I
> don't hear the normal phone tones until I press "Talk" on my phone.>

> [TELECOM Digest Editor' Note: Television and Hollywood tend to take
> some liberties with the realities of cell phones in their productions. 
> I do not think any cellphones ever worked  differently than the way
> they do now.  PAT] 

Was it an actual cellular telephone, or a "car phone" in the more
generic sense of the word?  There were other mobile telephone systems
in use before the AMPS Cellular network came to be.  A couple that I
have used are the IMTS system and GE-Marc V.  The GE-Marc type phones
did work as noted above, dial the number, hit talk, it would acquire
an idle channel, send some tones to the base station to tell it the ID
of the "phone" in use, and then send DTMF to the base to dial out.
There was really no way to know if you were in range or not without
attempting to make a call.  The system also worked as a two-way
radio. It was rather an old, slow, analog version of the Nextel
phones.  The system I used to work on was on the 800MHz band alongside
a newer digital/analog hybrid type of 800MHz trunked radios known as
EDACS.  I'm not sure if there are any GE-Marc systems still in use
today, but when I left the two-way business in 1997 the company I had
been working for still had quite a few of them around.  The two-way
functionality made them somewhat usefull.  They also could run up to
25W on a mobile.  I think the protable walkie-talkie type ran 5W.  The
portables were not full duplex so telephone useage on them wasn't much
fun, the mobiles where full duplex.

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/Wireless Antenna
Organization: ATCC
Reply-To: okorkie3@cox.net
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:29:59 GMT


In article <telecom23.51.7@telecom-digest.org>, o*k*o*r*k*i*e@lvcm.com 
says:

> I have a question about adding a wireless antenna or signal booster to
> my home network.

> My current setup is I have a Linksys WRT54G wireless router which
> supports B and G infrastructure.  I have a 802.11b Wireless PCI card
> in my PC.  In my condo, I can verify that the wireless portion of the
> network between the wireless router and my PC are functioning.  I then
> take my PC to another floor in my building, and I get little to no
> signal.  I would like to add either a signal booster and/or an antenna
> to make my network functional.

> From the reading that I have done, I can't determine where the
> antenna needs to be installed if I go this route.  Is it installed on
> the PCI portion of the network, or the router portion of the network.
> As the router TX's and RX's, is the problem with the low transmission
> power from the router and therefore I need a wireless antenna on the
> PC, or is the problem the low transmission power from the PCI card to
> the router upstairs?  I can't figure out which hardware I need to make
> this functional.

> Please contact me directly at okorkie3@cox.net (remove the *)

Owen - when one gets into the frequencies that Wi-Fi runs on
polarization matters. I believe that your router has two antennas on
it.  Orient one horizontally and one vertically. On the PC on the
floor above make sure it's antenna is also on the horizontal.

Tony

------------------------------

From: good_timecharlie@yahoo.com (Me)
Subject: Re: FCC Seeks to Limit F-Word on US Airwaves - Sources
Date: 2 Feb 2004 15:12:47 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Jeez,

Count on internet low lifes disregarding the standards of human
conduct and pretending they don't matter.  You better hope you don't
get the world you want.  You'll regret it if you do.  People with no
morals tend to do immoral things whenever they like and that includes
violating the rules against violence etc..  Yet idiots like you think
disregarding the rules of behavior we have developed over centuries is
a good thing.  Some people are just too stupid for words.

Me <NoSpam@Spam.net> wrote in message news:<telecom23.21.12@telecom-digest.org>:

> Jeeez,

> Count on Michael Powell and the FCC to tackle the really important and
> earth shattering issues of the day.

> Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
> news:telecom23.20.18@telecom-digest.org:

>> (First paragraph of this story contains language that may be
>> offensive to some readers.)

>> By Jeremy Pelofsky

>> WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Communications Commission
>> Chairman Michael Powell has proposed barring the word "fuck" from most
>> radio and broadcast television, regardless of the context, sources
>> close to the issue said on Tuesday.

>> The proposal would overturn an October FCC staff decision that ruled
>> the word was not indecent when U2 rocker Bono used it while accepting
>> an award during the 2003 live broadcast of the "Golden Globe Awards"
>> on the NBC television network.

>> To succeed, Powell will have to garner at least two other votes for
>> the proposal and the four other FCC commissioners are now considering
>> the issue, the sources said.

>>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40181215

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I would credit Powell with having
> a modicum of good taste in his vocabulary skills. *That word* has only
> appeared in this Digest twice; once many years ago in the early 1980's
> then yesterday. Today's message from 'me' makes number three. Halliday
> thoughtfully blocked it out in her reply. That word, like 'kike' and
> 'nigger' should certainly be used in context when appropriate, but
> avoided in routine discussion. That's my opinion; not to say I have
> never used the F-Word when IMO it was 'warranted' in anger, etc.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: faceman28208@yahoo.com (Templeton Peck)
Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent
Date: 2 Feb 2004 11:48:11 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message news:<telecom23.25.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> The suit accuses Network Solutions and Register.com of selling rights 
> to Web URLs and e-mail addresses that infringe on a patent that was 
> granted to Javaher and Weyer on Dec. 20, 2003. The patent covers the 
> method of assigning URLs and e-mail addresses of members of a group 
> such that the "@" sign is the dot in the URL. For example, if a group 
> used a so-called third-level URL, www.john.smith.com, the e-mail 
> address would be john@smith.com.

A couple of issues:

1. Who ever heard of assigning URLs? Is there a URL registry anywhere
on the Internet?

2. There is no URL of the format www.john.smith.com.

Apparently the "inventors" INTENDED domain name rather than URL.
However, the patent text says URL and never once mentions DNS.

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Danny Burstein)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Sam Etler)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Clarence Dold)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Felis Inferis)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Wesrock@aol.com)
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From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:06:11 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.52.5@telecom-digest.org> John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
writes:

>> Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
>> unused area code!

> Most likely: he called from a PBX with ISDN trunks that permit the
> PBX to send any caller ID it wants.

> Second most likely: he has a box that sends cl-id chirps that fooled
> the conferencing system.

Zeroeth most likely: he used a calling card which sent out a pseudo
caller id string very loosely based on its non-dialable outgoing
trunk.

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]


------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:20:13 CST
From: Sam Etler <etler@cs.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I *thought* (there I go, thinking for
> myself again) that sometime in the past two weeks a rule saying correct
> caller ID information had to be sent, whenever possible. PAT]

Nope.  The rules that went into effect on 1/29/2004 were set forth in
the FCC's Report and Order FCC 03-153 in Part XII.  This R&O created
47 CFR 64.1601(e) which states in part:

"Any person or entity that engages in telemarketing, as defined in
section 64.1200(f)(7) must transmit caller identification
information."

It goes on to say that either CPN or ANI (billing number) can be used,
and when available, the name of the telemarketer or the entity for
which the telemarketer is placing calls.  The provided number must
permit any individual to make a do-not-call request during business
hours.  (47 CFR 64.1601(e)(1)).  It also says that tax-exempt
nonprofit organizations don't have to comply.  (47 CFR 64.1601(e)(3)).

As you can see this only applies to entities involved in telemarketing.
This is defnied in 47 CFR 1200(f)(7) as:

"The term telemarketing means the initiation of a telephone call or
message for the purpose of encouraging the purchase or rental of, or
investment in, property, goods, or services, which is transmitted to
any person."

So this does not apply to businesses who have a legitimate reason for
setting their Caller ID when not involved in telemarketing (and
believe me, there's plenty of good reasons to do it that most people
will never encounter) or private individuals who are doing it for
kicks (and perhaps not so legitimate reasons).


sam

------------------------------

From: dold@FakedXCall.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:11:58 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Sam Etler <etler@cs.wisc.edu> wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I *thought* (there I go, thinking for
> myself again) that sometime in the past two weeks a rule saying
> correct caller ID information had to be sent, whenever possible. PAT]

There is a recent ruling that telemarketers must show a number that can
actually be called back, and they should no longer show up as "out of
area".

I noticed that I have received some telemarketer calls that show an
800 number on caller ID, with the name of the survey or marketing
firm.

I've also received multiple calls from one outfit, pitching the same
thing, and they show up as a personal name and number from San Francisco.


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

------------------------------

From: Felis Inferis <dethmeow@TuringtesTpcnet.ca>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:24:01 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


One the one hand, your caller may have had access to a PBX or a PRI
ISDN line through which Caller ID can sometimes be fabricated (see
Lucky225's outstanding article in 2600, Spring 2003), or on the other
hand there could have been an ANI failure.

However if at any time during the call you heard any strange
digital-sounding chirps or squeaks, chances are someone on the line
used a device or a sound program such as S.O.B. that creates a Caller
ID signal.  Without knowing by what mechanism you receive your Caller
ID, it's tough to say, but this one would only work if you had a
normal Call Waiting Caller ID box for POTS use.

Related link: http://artofhacking.com/orange.htm 


On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:36:09 -0500, Chironex <noboby@nospam.com> wrote:

> I recently hosted a very priveliged conference call using an online
> calling service.  Once the call was complete, I received a list of the
> people connected to the call, and noticed that there was an additional
> caller who was not authorized.  It was not the conference call
> service, nor was it any of my employees as I can account for all of
> their caller ID info.

> Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
> unused area code!

> Is this possible and how the heck did someone do this????

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:42:28 EST
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?


In a message dated Mon, 2 Feb 2004 13:41:30 CST Sam Etler
<etler@cs.wisc.edu> wrote:

>> Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
>> unused area code!

>> Is this possible and how the heck did someone do this????

> There's a lot of ways to do it, but anyone with a dedicated ISDN PRI
> connection can set the Calling Party Number (Caller ID) field to
> whatever they want.  Not only can you set it to a fake area code or
> prefix, but most networks allow you to send from 0 to 15 or more
> digits.  AT&T's 4ESS network allows up to 17 though some digits may be
> stripped when the call enters another carrier's network.

> Now, setting your billing number is an entirely different and much more
> difficult matter.

> sam

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I *thought* (there I go, thinking for
> myself again) that sometime in the past two weeks a rule saying
> correct caller ID information had to be sent, whenever possible. PAT]

     Today I got a call showing the number as 727 450-1267 with the
name shown as "BLOCKED" or "--PRIVATE CALL--" (depending on which CID
box I read it on).

      But if it is blocked, how come it displays a number?

Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

------------------------------

From: dold@MydoomXCom.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Mydoom Computer Virus Launches Record Attack on SCO Web Site
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:19:37 UTC
Organization: a2i network


ptownson <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> wrote:

> Here is the grim story as reported on Bloomberg earlier today. It
> appears over 250,000 computers are attacking SCO, which has been 
> shut down since Saturday. Tomorrow, Tuesday, the trouble-makers are
> starting on Microsoft's web site in the same way.  

I read some network analysis that said this was patently not true, and
that it is more of SCO trying to ...  whatever it is they do instead
of sell software.


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: SCO Options, was Re: Mydoom vs. SCO
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:08:57 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.52.1@telecom-digest.org> ptownson
<ptownson@telecom-digest.org> writes:

> Here is the grim story as reported on Bloomberg earlier today. It
> appears over 250,000 computers are attacking SCO, which has been 
> shut down since Saturday. Tomorrow, Tuesday, the trouble-makers are
> starting on Microsoft's web site in the same way.  

> http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid3Demail&refer3Dnews_index&sid3D
s80lU

If, for some reason or another, you absolutely must get in touch with SCO:

	"The assault on SCO is expected to last until 12 February. 
	Until then, SCO has said it will use the alternative 
	domain name www.thescogroup.com."

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994629


Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 

[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:20:20 EST
Subject: Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones


jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com> wrote on Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:28:58 -0700:

> In <telecom23.50.1@telecom-digest.org>, Gail M. Hall <gmhall@apk.net>
> wrote:

>> What struck me was that when they used their cell phones, the tones
>> were sounded as the buttons were pressed instead of the way my current
>> cell phone works.  Mine makes a beep with each phone press, but I
>> don't hear the normal phone tones until I press "Talk" on my phone.

> My cell phone (an Audiovox on VZW) plays the touchtone if you dial a
> digit (or * or #), or a beep if you press any other button.  I don't
> hear any tones after I press "send".

> On the other hand, my cordless phone at home does act the way you
> describe, if you dial before pressing "talk".

    On my Nokia 5165 you hear the tones as you push the buttons.  This
seems almost essential if you reach a menu requiring tones to navigate,
or if you have to make a numeric entry with tones, or for that matter
to push "*" to retrieve your messages.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: FCC Seeks to Limit F-Word on US Airwaves - Sources
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:36:50 -0600


Me <good_timecharlie@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jeez,

> Count on internet low lifes disregarding the standards of human
> conduct and pretending they don't matter.  You better hope you don't
> get the world you want.  You'll regret it if you do. 

I'm going to try not to fan the flames here, since I just dealt with a
ridiculously long thread on the exact same subject as moderator of
rec.  radio.broadcasting. I will, however, point out that saying the
F-word doesn't make you inherently immoral. Of course, if you can
prove I'm wrong, you're welcome to do so. *Your* crack about "Internet
low-lifes" borders on flame-baiting, though.

JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 22:10:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: IE Handling of User Information in HTTP and HTTPS URLs


A security update is available that modifies the default behavior of
Internet Explorer for handling user information in HTTP and HTTPS URLs

SUMMARY

A security update is available that removes support for handling user
names and passwords in HTTP and HTTP with Secure Sockets Layer (SSL)
or HTTPS URLs in Microsoft Internet Explorer. The following URL syntax
is no longer supported in Internet Explorer or Windows Explorer after
you install the MS04-004 Cumulative Security Update for Internet
Explorer (832894):

	http(s)://username:password@server/resource.ext

This article is intended to notify you of this change in Internet
Explorer's default behavior. If you include user information in HTTP
or HTTPS URLs, Microsoft recommends that you explore the workarounds
that are described in this article before you install the 832894
security update. For additional information about the 832894 security
update, visit the following Microsoft Web site:

	http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS04-004.asp

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834489

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Caution to readers ... as always, when
you read something someone else wrote regarding 'Microsoft Updates' you 
should *always* verify the message carefully. Do NOT click on any
links printed in e-journals or Usenet messages or emails you recieve.
Starting with a fresh browser window, type the address in carefully
yourself, not just click a link you saw in this Digest, or any other 
email. I see nothing wrong with the link in Monty's news clipping 
above, but just take care. Normally, Microsoft notifies its customers
through Windows Update only, not via 'security bulletins'. PAT]

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    Telemarketers Buy Suspicious Lists (McWebber)
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From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Verizon Violates DNC List
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:23:59 -0500


I am a Verizon customer. I have always been on their no solicitation,
and as they acknowledge, should not receive any marketing calls from
them or anyone working on their behalf. Yet, the other day I was
called by a company called ICM out of Orlando, FL
(http://www.icmconnect.com/ note suspicious whois info below on that
domain. 407-384-4220) trying to sell me Verizon long distance. It took
a little work to get any info from the rep. My caller ID showed "Out
of area" even though it is in the area. I asked the rep a couple of
times who she is with and she insisted Verizon. The lack of CID made
me suspicious so I said, "Look, who do YOU work for" and that's when
she said "ICM" When I asked where they're located all she would say is
Orlando. When I asked for an address she said they didn't have an
address. All she would give me was a phone number. An 800-483-4000
Verizon number, and 407-384-4220 number for ICM.

I filed an FTC DNC complaint and contacted Verizon.

Reply #1:

(Wanted to verify my details for security, but:)

"In the mean time, unfortunately, since we have no affiliation with
ICM of Orlando, FL we do not have any information about them or their
attempt to contact you. We do not condone their use of our name, and
have not authorize them to contact anyone on our behalf.

"If they contact you again, we ask that you get any information that
you can, such as address, phone number, and especially any name and
title of any management personnel, we will be glad to do all possible
to put a stop to their calls."

Then, after I wrote back with my info and pointing out that I had
ICM's info and phone number, had spoken to them again to confirm they
were working for Verizon, I get this:

"I have taken the opportunity to contact the solicitation group
directly (as they advised me you had as well), and have spoken with
the director for their Verizon project.

[I had only spoken to ICM, not to anyone at Verizon except this droid
by email.]

"Apparently they have contracted with a broad initiative that covers
more than just Verizon local service, so are not one of the
solicitation groups we are normally familiar.

" With that said, they advised that they work from a list of prospective
customers, that Verizon provides, that already fit some demographic
requirements.  Since you have subscribed to several calling features,
they were to suggest a viable package.

" With that said, I have found no reason that your request for no
solicitation should have been overlooked, so in the event that there
was some error behind the scenes, I have re-initiated the necessary
process to have your account removed from any solicitation list we are
involved with.

" The representative I spoke with at ICM advised that she also took
steps to have your account manually removed from their contact lists.
Again, we apologize for the inconvenience, and trust that you will
have no further trouble with this issue.

" It has been my goal to provide you with outstanding service.  I hope I
have succeeded in meeting that goal. If you have additional questions
or if Verizon may be of assistance to you in the future, please let us
know. We look forward to serving you.

Thank you for using Verizon. We appreciate your business."

Sincerely,

David
Verizon Consumer eCenter

Domain registration whois:
Registrant:
STEPHANIE G
ICM
4037 Metric Drive  # 120
Winter Park, FL  US 32792

Registrar: NameSecure.com
Domain: ICMCONNECT.COM
Created on 03-06-2002
Expires on 03-06-2012

Administrative Contact:
STEPHANIE G
Phone: 407-384-4220
E-mail: accounts@itsolutionsnet.com

Technical Contact:
Namesecure Inc.
Phone: 703-925-6988
E-mail: support@namesecure.com

Name Servers:
NS1.ITSOLUTIONSNET.COM         207.30.12.60


McWebber
No email replies read

If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends
please forget that I'm your friend.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The last two paragraphs of the letter 
you received from the droid at Verizon are *exactly* -- word for word
('It has been my goal...' and 'thank you for using ...') -- the same 
words/phrases used by *every Bell System service rep* everywhere. 
Substitute the phrase 'SBC' everywhere the phrase 'Verizon' appears
in that letter and the letter might as well have been written by
David's droid brother or sister at Southwestern Bell. Even though
officially the Bell System has been dead for many years, the droids
continue to act like Ma Bell was still around, as much as they are
permitted, don't they? I think those people act like divestiture was
merely a stumbling-block, a minor inconvenience in their path. PAT]

------------------------------

From: AES/newspost <siegman@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:17:08 -0800


In article <telecom23.52.4@telecom-digest.org>, Sam Etler
<etler@cs.wisc.edu> wrote:

> There's a lot of ways to do it, but anyone with a dedicated ISDN PRI
> connection can set the Calling Party Number (Caller ID) field to
> whatever they want.  Not only can you set it to a fake area code or
> prefix, but most networks allow you to send from 0 to 15 or more
> digits.  AT&T's 4ESS network allows up to 17 though some digits may be
> stripped when the call enters another carrier's network.

I take this to mean that if legislation were passed saying simply that
all telemarketing calls had to be made using a Caller ID that started
with some special, dedicated, and universally understood "area code"
 -- something like 303 or whatever -- that this requirement, aided
perhaps by a few technical adjustments by telcos and telemarketers,
would be entirely feasible.

I've long felt that this has to be the long-term solution to
telemarketing.  No First Amendment problems -- telemarkets can call
whomever they want, about whatever they want, just so long as they
identify the nature of their call with the 303 prefix. Those who don't
want such calls will buy a $10 gadget from Radio Shack that blocks
this prefix; or phones -- and even houses and apartments -- will start
being sold with this blocking built in.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, don't dump on the good people of
Denver, CO where 303 is located. I am sure you were just using that as
an example. Maybe '666' could be used; that superstitious number which
is the mark of the anti-Christ or Satan will never be used as an area
code.  But you know, of course, telcos talk out of both sides of their
mouth on the telemarketer 'problem'. They make too much money from the
sales droids on the phone (their own and other companies) to push too
hard on eliminating their ability to talk to people.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:28:23 -0500


Chironex <noboby@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.51.5@telecom-digest.org:

> Strangely the number in question is 794-902-XXXX, which appears to be an
> unused area code!

> Is this possible and how the heck did someone do this????

I got a telemarketing call once and the caller was abusive. When I tried to
call the number in the CID I got a standard TelCo number disconnected
recording.

>      Today I got a call showing the number as 727 450-1267 with the
> name shown as "BLOCKED" or "--PRIVATE CALL--" (depending on which CID
> box I read it on).

Ditto. Just last night I got a call from an outfit trying to sell
mortgages due to my filling out spammer's forms to catch who they sell
the leads to:
(http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Z76cnfWo4fyVO1OjXTWcow%40comcast.com&oe=U
TF-8&output=gplain)

The first call from them last night showed Out of area and the next
call from his boss to get details from me on the spammer they bought
the lead from showed a phone number and ANONYMOUS CALL below.


McWebber

"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Telemarketers Buy Suspicious Lists
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 10:11:02 -0500


Recently I got two calls from telemarketers that ask for my name and
when I ask how they're spelling my name they give me a misspelling
that exists only on the old Internic, (now Network Solutions), whois
database. I got a call yesterday, despite being on the DNC list from
(561-338-7877 Hunter Scott Financial) a telemarketer with some
investment scam. Played dumb when I mentioned the DNC list and thought
all they had to do was promise not to call me again.


McWebber
No email replies read
If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends
please forget that I'm your friend.

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading away in U.S.
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:24:03 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:15:15 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> By Ben Berkowitz

> LOS ANGELES, Feb 2 (Reuters) - As a fashion color, gray is
> the new black, thin batteries are in and you're not in vogue if
> you don't have the latest ringtone.

> As the U.S. wireless market grows, the cell phone is evolving into a
> phone in name only as calling becomes almost secondary to a host of
> other functions.

> After years of trailing Japan and Western Europe, where cell phones
> have long had color screens, e-mail, music, video games, cameras and
> other accessories that make American cell phones look backward in
> comparison, handset makers are finally pushing a new generation of
> units on the domestic market that offer the full range of functions
> available elsewhere.

What the article fails to mention is that these gimmicks of color,
polyphonic tones, etc. are just that gimmicks.  Color phones are many
times useless outside as the screen gets washed out in bright light
where a regular monochrome handset you can still see what's in the
display.  Polyphonic ringtones may sound somewhat cool, but if you
can't hear them in a noisy environment they are also useless.

Believe it or not some people want a mobile phone that they can
actually make and receive calls on.... easily.  It's going to be many
years if never that cell phones supplant personal computers as a way
to communicate data.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

------------------------------

From: Kenneth P. Stox <stox@sbcglobal.net>
Organization: Imaginary Landscape, LLC.
Subject: Re: SCO Options, was Re: Mydoom vs. SCO
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 05:51:17 GMT


Danny Burstein wrote:

> If, for some reason or another, you absolutely must get in touch with SCO:
> 
> 	"The assault on SCO is expected to last until 12 February. 
> 	Until then, SCO has said it will use the alternative 
> 	domain name www.thescogroup.com."

Strange. www.sco.com resolves to 216.250.128.12, and www.thescogroup.com 
resolves to 216.250.128.21. Now then, if I was someone with more than 
one interconnected neuron, and I was expecting a DOS attack, wouldn't I 
try to locate the other server on another network?

Naahhhhhh!

------------------------------

From: jvj1@yahoo.com (John)
Subject: Switch Verizon to Cavalier, Can't Get Through From Some Places
Date: 2 Feb 2004 22:08:45 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi,

I recently switched from Verizon to Cavalier (in Maryland).  All is
working fine until today.  My daughter's phone tries to contact me for
some emergency.  The school (walking distance from home) tells me that
they cannot call me and told me that they are getting my voicemail.

I called Cavalier. They told me that it is the problem with how the
school is dialing.  So, I go to the school and dial our home.  I'm
getting Verizon voicemail and it is asking me to enter a mailbox.

I called Cavalier again and explained the problem. They put me on hold
and told me they fixed it. I called the school half an hour later and
asked to call me at home. No calls from them ... meaning things are
still are not working.  I seem to get calls from other parts ... Long
Distance and International.  Cavalier doesn't seem to want to send
anybody to check it out.

Anybody knows what could be the problem?  Wondering, where else people
cannot call me..:-/

Thanks.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Please answer a few questions for
me. You said you switched *from* Verizon to Cavalier. Yet the school
calls go to *Verizon* voice mail ... and the voicemail equipment (from
*Verizon*) asks the caller to 'enter a mailbox number'? It sounds to
me like the school phone (if their phones are on Verizon) is getting
sent to a generic voicemail inbound line. Verizon voicemail cannot
detirmine who the call is for so it asks the calling party to enter a
mailbox number. When you switched to Cavalier, did you intend to
retain the Verizon voicemail (or does Verizon supply the voicemail for
Cavalier under some contract, etc?) Did you (and/or your daughter) use
the same telephone to placed the call to you that would ordinarily be
used for such?

If Voicemail does not have an account for you (either because you have
now dropped Verizon or have not properly configured your Cavalier
phone voicemail correctly) then calls to it intended for 'no accounts'
get handled like calls where Voicemail does not know who is calling
it; a generic greeting 'what mailbox do you want?' is substituted.

Another clue was that Cavalier first told you the school was not 
dialing the number 'correctly'. What is the 'correct' way to dial it?
If Verizon, (or whoever is the inter exchange carrier) and Cavalier
have their tables (databases) set up correctly then it shouldn't
matter how you dial, but this leads me to wonder if (whoever extended
dial tone -- Verizon? -- to the school and you on your attempt) has
some database error.  Obviously you can see there are a lot more
questions to be answered in the process of resovling this mystery. In
fact, let's get even a bit more extreme: what do you get if you dial
your Cavalier number from a next door neighbor or even dial from your
home phone?  ***Make certain you use a phone subscribed to Verizon
for your tests.*** And if possible, also test using a phone which is
subscribed to Cavalier.   Also try these tests before and after you
have done whatever three-digit diddle is required to turn voice mail
on and off (in other words ring through to me.)  Then please write
again, and we will try to resolved it further.  Do not trouble the
droids with all this, not at first. It would be good if you could tell
them exactly what is wrong before they begin working on it.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:55:14 EST
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: 450-434 Prefix?


One of the calls appearing on a just-received AT&T bill says it was
from "CANADA USA" (leaving blank space where a U.S. point would have
the state name).  The telephone number shown was 450 434-0000, but
I am sure I placed the call from the 450-246 prefix, which was found
along the Autoroute 15 just north of U.S. border in Quebec province.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:55:29 +0400
From: Editor (PressReleaseNetwork.com) <editor@pressreleasenetwork.com>
Subject: Bluegiga Launches A New-Generation Bluetooth Access Server.


PRESS RELEASE NETWORK
http://www.pressreleasenetwork.com
				
Bluegiga Launches A New-Generation Bluetooth Access Server, First To 
Combine Multiple Bluetooth Modules With WLAN, GPRS Connectivities

Bluegiga WRAP Multiradio Access Server Integrates Bluetooth, WLAN, GSM, 
GPRS And Ethernet LAN, Software Customizable For Easy Integration In 
Corporate IT Infrastructure

Espoo, Finland - Feb 3, 2004 (PRN): Bluegiga Technologies, a provider of 
wireless local area networks and M2M communications systems based on 
Bluetooth technology, today announced the commercial availability of WRAP 
Multiradio Access Server, the first device in the market to integrate 
multiple Bluetooth modules with other wireless technologies. With the WRAP 
Multiradio Access Server, Bluetooth enabled cell phones and other devices 
utilizing wireless Bluetooth technology are flexibly connected with other 
wireless and wireline networks.

The WRAP Multiradio Access Server enables the use of cell phones and
other devices with Bluetooth technology to wirelessly access and
synchronize content and applications in both the corporate intranet
and the Internet.  First applications include the synchronization of
email and calendar systems and news services. In corporations
utilizing telephony systems based on VoIP technology (Voice Over IP),
an attractive future opportunity is the use of Bluetooth enabled
smartphones as VoIP terminals.

Bluetooth technology has become a new standard connectivity in cell
phones, PDAs, laptops and other wireless devices. With GSM-level data
security and low power drain, Bluetooth technology is an ideal and
cost efficient way to integrate these wireless devices in the
corporate networks, allowing full utilization of smart handheld
devices, said Tom Nordman, General Manager, Bluegiga Technologies. The
WRAP Multiradio Access Server enables a new level of efficiency and
flexibility in wireless applications.

The Bluegiga WRAP Multiradio Access Server combines a Bluetooth access
point with local application hosting and processing capability and
transparent routing to other networks. Designed to enable smooth
wireless transmission of services and content, the device suits the
needs of both corporate IT departments and original equipment
manufacturers. Software customizability allows the deployment of
Bluetooth connectivity as a new virtue of existing networks without
network reconfiguration.

With three built-in Bluetooth modules, Bluegiga WRAP Multiradio Access
Server manages up to 21 simultaneous connections, in contrast to
conventional access points supporting just seven connections. Support
for WLAN, GSM and GPRS technologies are added with a CF card. Wireline
interfaces include Ethernet LAN, USB and RS232. Routing between
different communication technologies is completely transparent to the
users.

Support for a higher number of simultaneous Bluetooth connections
enables the provision of Bluetooth Hotspots, offering a wireless
Internet connection to cell phones and PDAs. As a new service targeted
to the users of Bluetooth enabled smart devices, Bluetooth Hotspots
open up a variety of opportunities for local wireless marketing and
promotional purposes.

Applications for a Bluetooth Access Server include a range of
telemetry solutions, such as wireless monitoring of patient condition
in medical institutions. An emerging field is Machine-to-Machine
communication (M2M), utilizing systems based on Bluetooth technology
in remote monitoring, control and configuration of machines in
industrial plants, allowing e.g.  an engineer to problem-shoot a paper
machine located in another country.

Bluegiga WRAP (Wireless Remote Access Platform) Multiradio Access
Server is easy and fast to deploy. With dimensions of 130 x 80 x 35 mm
and weight of 450 g, the device is suitable for both desktop and wall
mounting. The device is already in volume production and immediately
commercially available via Bluegiga Technologies and its partners
around the world.

Technical data is available at http://www.bluegiga.com/wrapas Press photos 
are available at http://www.netprofile.fi/bluegiga

About Bluegiga Technologies:

Bluegiga Technologies provides wireless local area networks and M2M
communications systems based on Bluetooth technology. Bluegiga WRAP
Access Servers integrate Bluetooth-enabled devices as part of a
corporate network.  Bluegiga WRAP THOR Bluetooth modules are robust,
lightweight and flexibly embeddable. Software configurable for
versatile integration, Bluegiga products are ideally suited in
enterprise proximity access, telemetry, remote monitoring and cable
replacement applications. Founded in 2000, Bluegiga is based in Espoo,
Finland and privately held. Bluegiga products are globally available
via a network of qualified distributors, original design manufacturers
and system integrators. For further information, please visit
http://www.bluegiga.com.

For more information, contact:

Bluegiga Company Contact
Mr. Tom Nordman
General Manager
Tel: +358 9 4124 0450
Email: tom.nordman@bluegiga.com
Website: http://www.bluegiga.com

Bluegiga Agency Contact
Mr. Ile Knnen, Netprofile Finland
Tel: +358 9 6812 080
Email: ile@netprofile.fi


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    PluggedIn: Going Mobile on a PC is Risky Business (Monty Solomon)
    Cisco Systems Reports Second Quarter Earnings (Monty Solomon)
    Jackson, Timberlake Apologize for Flash (Monty Solomon)
    New Verizon Advertising Socks it to Cable (Monty Solomon)
    MTV Blames Janet Jackson for Super Bowl Incident (Monty Solomon)
    Re: 450-434 Prefix? (Dave Garland)
    Re: 450-434 Prefix? (John Levine)
    Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading away in U.S. (Phil McKerracher)
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:16:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: PluggedIn: Going Mobile on a PC is Risky Business


By Caroline Humer

NEW YORK, Feb 3 (Reuters) - In any local coffee house, airport lounge
or hotel lobby, technophiles and technophobes alike can be found
hunched over their notebook computers.

Toting around a computer filled with valuable data, however, is a
growing risk: If the computer is lost or stolen, the user loses
everything -- from a prized doctoral thesis to bank account numbers to
records of passwords.

When the thrill of being unplugged outweighs the danger of losing
essential data, there are a number of technologies that make it easier
to back up those files, keep them hidden and even track down the
missing computer itself.

It starts with that techno-mantra: back-up, back-up, back-up.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40400174

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:19:37 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cisco Systems Reports Second Quarter Earnings


SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 3, 2004--Cisco Systems,
Inc. (Nasdaq:CSCO):


    --  Q2 Net Sales: $5.4 Billion (14.5% increase year over year;
        5.8% increase quarter over quarter)

    --  Q2 Operating Cash Flows: $1.7 Billion

    --  Q2 Earnings Per Share: $0.18 GAAP before accounting change;
        $0.10 GAAP after accounting change

Cisco Systems, Inc., the worldwide leader in networking for the
Internet, today reported its second quarter results for the period
ended January 24, 2004.

Net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2004 were $5.4 billion,
compared with $4.7 billion for the second quarter of fiscal 2003, an
increase of 14.5 percent, and compared with $5.1 billion for the first
quarter of fiscal 2004, an increase of 5.8 percent.

Net income for the second quarter of fiscal 2004, on a generally
accepted accounting principles (GAAP) basis, before the non-cash
cumulative effect of an accounting change, was $1.3 billion or $0.18
per share, compared with $991 million or $0.14 per share for the
second quarter of fiscal 2003, and compared with $1.1 billion or $0.15
per share for the first quarter of fiscal 2004. Net income on a GAAP
basis, after the non-cash cumulative effect of the accounting change,
was $724 million or $0.10 per share. Pro forma net income for the
second quarter of fiscal 2004 was $1.3 billion or $0.18 per share,
compared with $1.1 billion or $0.15 per share for the second quarter
of fiscal 2003, and compared with $1.2 billion or $0.17 per share for
the first quarter of fiscal 2004. A reconciliation between net income
on a GAAP basis and pro forma net income is provided in a table
immediately following the Pro Forma Consolidated Statements of
Operations.

Net sales for the first six months of fiscal 2004 were $10.5 billion,
compared with $9.6 billion for the first six months of fiscal 2003, an
increase of 9.8 percent.

Net income for the first six months of fiscal 2004, on a GAAP basis,
before the non-cash cumulative effect of the accounting change, was
$2.4 billion or $0.33 per share, compared with $1.6 billion or $0.22
per share for the first six months of fiscal 2003. Net income for the
first six months of fiscal 2004, on a GAAP basis, after the non-cash
cumulative effect of the accounting change, was $1.8 billion or $0.25
per share. Pro forma net income for the first six months of fiscal
2004 was $2.5 billion or $0.35 per share, compared with $2.1 billion
or $0.29 per share for the first six months of fiscal 2003.

During the second quarter of fiscal 2004, Cisco(R) completed the
acquisition of Latitude Communications, Inc. for a purchase price of
approximately $86 million.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40406614

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:22:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Jackson, Timberlake Apologize for Flash


By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY AP Music Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- CBS, MTV, the NFL, Janet Jackson and Justin 
Timberlake all say they're sorry _ but none of that is deterring the 
federal government from looking into the Super Bowl's too-revealing 
halftime show.

Federal Communications Commission chief Michael Powell on Monday
promised an investigation into whether CBS violated decency laws, with
potential fines of up to $27,500. If applied to each CBS station, the
fine could reach into the millions.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40401895

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:23:59 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New Verizon Advertising Socks it to Cable


TV Commercials Stress it's an 'Easy Call' to Choose Verizon Online DSL
Service Over Cable Companies' Offering

NEW YORK, Feb. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon's new advertising campaign takes
a peek inside the broadband-buyer's decision-making process and explains why
Verizon Online DSL service is a better choice than cable for high-speed
Internet communications.

In two new television commercials, set to run in more than 20 major
markets nationwide beginning tomorrow, consumers looking for broadband
service come to the realization, after talking with a representatives
from identified cable companies, that Verizon Online DSL with MSN
Premium offers more of the features that they need at a lower price
than the named cable provider can offer.

In living room and home-office settings, fictitious consumers first
hear about the hidden fees, limited service offerings and features
they don't get when applying for cable modem service from identified
cable television companies.  Then, in a replay of the conversation
with a Verizon representative, the consumers learn about the
advantages of choosing Verizon Online DSL with MSN Premium service.
After the consumers decide that Verizon is the better choice,
Verizon's longtime spokesperson, James Earl Jones, concludes by
saying, "That's an easy call."

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40406904

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:25:57 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: MTV Blames Janet Jackson for Super Bowl Incident


By Kenneth Li


NEW YORK, Feb 3 (Reuters) - Singer Janet Jackson masterminded the
Super Bowl halftime stunt that left her right breast exposed and
prompted a federal probe into television indecency, the head of MTV
said on Tuesday.

"Janet Jackson engineered it," MTV Chief Executive Tom Freston told
Reuters in an interview.

The blame on Jackson comes on a second day of fallout after pop idol
Justin Timberlake tore off half of Jackson's black leather bustier
while the pair were singing a duet, exposing her right breast at the
conclusion of Sunday's Super Bowl halftime show.

Freston, whose company produced the halftime show for CBS, said
Timberlake was informed of the stunt just moments before he took the
stage with Jackson.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40402505

------------------------------

From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Re: 450-434 Prefix?
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 13:35:59 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information


It was a dark and stormy night when Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
wrote:

> One of the calls appearing on a just-received AT&T bill says it was
> from "CANADA USA"

Oops.  That wasn't supposed to be used until after the invasion had
begun.  :)

------------------------------

Date: 3 Feb 2004 22:01:23 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: 450-434 Prefix?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> One of the calls appearing on a just-received AT&T bill says it was
> from "CANADA USA" (leaving blank space where a U.S. point would have
> the state name).  The telephone number shown was 450 434-0000, but
> I am sure I placed the call from the 450-246 prefix, which was found
> along the Autoroute 15 just north of U.S. border in Quebec province.

The Jan 1 prefix list from CNAC says that 450-246 is Lacolle, 450-434
is Ste Therese.  Both are near Montreal, but you were probably in
Lacolle.

Maybe your call got splashed.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies,
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"I shook hands with Senators Dole and Inouye," said Tom, disarmingly.

------------------------------

From: Phil McKerracher <phil@mckerracher.org>
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading away in U.S.
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:42:36 GMT
Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder)


Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom> wrote in message
news:telecom23.54.5@telecom-digest.org:

> ... Color phones are many
> times useless outside as the screen gets washed out in bright light
> where a regular monochrome handset you can still see what's in the
> display...

Unless the screen is "transreflective" as on the O2 xda, which I have found
surprisingly good, even in bright sunlight (Australian summer).

> ...  Polyphonic ringtones may sound somewhat cool, but if you
> can't hear them in a noisy environment they are also useless...

True, but a well chosen one (e.g. spanning a range of frequencies) can
actually be more audible than a monophonic one. They also avoid
confusion about whose phone is ringing.

> Believe it or not some people want a mobile phone that they can
> actually make and receive calls on.... easily

Again, I've found it very convenient to have all my Outlook contacts in the
xda, dialable with a single tap on the number.

> ...  It's going to be many years if never that cell phones supplant
> personal computers as a way to communicate data.

Hmm. Again, my xda is very useful for sending and receiving e-mail on
the move. I have used it recently to e-mail diagnostic oscilloscope
traces from a lab, to retrieve a streetmap of my current location from
a car and to find a timetable for buses from Heathrow. It's MUCH more
convenient to carry than a laptop, and the battery lasts all day.

It hasn't "supplanted" my PC because I prefer to use that when I'm at
home, but I wouldn't be without it when I'm on the move. That's not to
say it's perfect - it crashes regularly for a start - but I think the
principle is good.


Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.org

------------------------------

From: George Mitchell <george@coventry.m5p.com>
Subject: What If ...? Was Re: Verizon Violates DNC List
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:01:58 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


> TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to a message:

> Even though officially the Bell System has been dead for many years,
> the droids continue to act like Ma Bell was still around, as much as
> they are permitted, don't they? I think those people act like
> divestiture was merely a stumbling-block, a minor inconvenience in
> their path. PAT]

Verizon, of course, would have been an impossibility pre-divestiture,
and even at the beginning of 1999, who would have dreamed of a merger
between the largest independent telco with a big chunk of the old Bell
System?  As I was pondering Verizon's history this morning, it occurred
to me to wonder what was on Judge Greene's mind when he repartitioned
the old Bell System into the seven Baby Bells.  What would have hap-
pened if he had simply spun off the existing Bell operating companies
with the nominal corporate structure which existed at the time?  Surely
some of us would still be dealing with New England Telephone, or Paci-
fic Northwest Bell, etc.  Would anything the size of Bell Atlantic have
merged together by this point, to be merged in its turn with GTE?

-- George Mitchell (obfuscated email address)

------------------------------

From: run1500@yahoo.com (George Muenz)
Subject: SIP IP PHones
Date: 3 Feb 2004 17:00:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi: We are looking to implement the Asterisk System. Looking at a few
handset vendors as well.

Would apprecaite any feedback or comments on these as well as if you
know any vendors who can supply this cheap, or resources where they
can be searched.

Handsets

Polycom SoundPoint IP 600 SIP
Zultys ZIP 4x4
Snom Snom200 VoIP phone
ipDialog SipTone Ethernet

Thanks,

George Muenz

------------------------------

From: Hank Karl <notgiven@nothere.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:27:59 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:20:13 CST, Sam Etler <etler@cs.wisc.edu> wrote:

> As you can see this only applies to entities involved in telemarketing.
> This is defined in 47 CFR 1200(f)(7) as:

> "The term telemarketing means the initiation of a telephone call or
> message for the purpose of encouraging the purchase or rental of, or
> investment in, property, goods, or services, which is transmitted to
> any person."

In the documentation at
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/businfo.html

Its defined more widely.  Anyone selling goods over the phone is a
telemarketer.  This also applies to some incoming calls.  

If you call in to a catalog and they try to "upsell" you, that call is
covered under the regs.  Of course, the caller-id part is not
applicable.

IANAL, but these regs seem to apply to a lot more businesses than the
ones I've thought of as "telemarketers" (i.e. boiler rooms full of
phones and people trying to sell just about everything you don't
want).  These rules seem to affect even a local business calling
consumers.

> So this does not apply to businesses who have a legitimate reason for
> setting their Caller ID when not involved in telemarketing (and
> believe me, there's plenty of good reasons to do it that most people
> will never encounter) or private individuals who are doing it for
> kicks (and perhaps not so legitimate reasons).

> sam

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I *thought* (there I go, thinking for
> myself again) that sometime in the past two weeks a rule saying
> correct caller ID information had to be sent, whenever possible. PAT]

It has to be correct for the organization making the call, but does
not have to be the line's number.   For example, a computer
manufacturer may try to hide the fact that they outsource support to
India.  So when that third-party company calls you, they can put (for
example) "Dell Support" and an 800 number instead of their actual
company name and international number.  

See http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/businfo.html for
more.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Since you mentioned Dell Support, let's
chat about them for a minute.  Has anyone seen that very funny commer-
cial on television where a car load of people pull up to a Radio Shack
store just at closing time? The clerk is walking out, and locking the 
door of the store when he sees this car full of people looking at him
and giggling. The clerk approaches the car questioningly, and asks the
people, "May I help you?"  

The people in the back seat reach out, grab the clerk and pull him
into the car and speed away. The clerk is shown now sitting in the
back seat, yelling frantically at the people saying, "Let me go! What
do you want from me?". The car driver turns around and says to the
folks in the back seat, "do not tell anyone about this."  The
poor Radio Shack clerk is looking frantic at this point, convinced he
is going to get kidnapped, molested, whatever. The car pulls into a
garage and we see everyone dragging or pulling the store clerk into 
the house where we see a computer monitor. "What we want you to do,"
says the man to the clerk, as he points at the computer screen, "is
make this go away!"  On the screen we see a message in large letters
saying, 'ERROR CODE 417'.  In the next scene, we see the car driving
the clerk back to the store; they push the clerk out of the car in
sort of a rough way, and then speed away, with the shocked clerk 
standing there shaking his head. A voice in the background warns us
sternly: "Don't go there and do that!  Instead get a Dell and all the
help you need making it work correctly." (Picture of Dell Computer
and sales/tech support phone number.) 

OUr local Radio Shack store has a sign by their computers saying 'we
do not have Dells, dude!  Much better deals!"   PAT]

------------------------------

From: jvj1@yahoo.com (John)
Subject: Re: Switch Verizon to Cavalier, Can't Get Through From Some Places
Date: 3 Feb 2004 20:22:51 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


jvj1@yahoo.com (John) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.54.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> Hi,

> I recently switched from Verizon to Cavalier (in Maryland).  All is
> working fine until today.  My daughter's phone tries to contact me for
> some emergency.  The school (walking distance from home) tells me that
> they cannot call me and told me that they are getting my voicemail.

> I called Cavalier. They told me that it is the problem with how the
> school is dialing.  So, I go to the school and dial our home.  I'm
> getting Verizon voicemail and it is asking me to enter a mailbox.

> I called Cavalier again and explained the problem. They put me on hold
> and told me they fixed it. I called the school half an hour later and
> asked to call me at home. No calls from them ... meaning things are
> still are not working.  I seem to get calls from other parts ... Long
> Distance and International.  Cavalier doesn't seem to want to send
> anybody to check it out.

> Anybody knows what could be the problem?  Wondering, where else people
> cannot call me..:-/

> Thanks.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Please answer a few questions for
> me. You said you switched *from* Verizon to Cavalier. Yet the school
> calls go to *Verizon* voice mail ... and the voicemail equipment (from
> *Verizon*) asks the caller to 'enter a mailbox number'? It sounds to
> me like the school phone (if their phones are on Verizon) is getting
> sent to a generic voicemail inbound line. Verizon voicemail cannot
> detirmine who the call is for so it asks the calling party to enter a
> mailbox number. When you switched to Cavalier, did you intend to
> retain the Verizon voicemail (or does Verizon supply the voicemail for
> Cavalier under some contract, etc?) Did you (and/or your daughter) use
> the same telephone to placed the call to you that would ordinarily be
> used for such?

> If Voicemail does not have an account for you (either because you have
> now dropped Verizon or have not properly configured your Cavalier
> phone voicemail correctly) then calls to it intended for 'no accounts'
> get handled like calls where Voicemail does not know who is calling
> it; a generic greeting 'what mailbox do you want?' is substituted.

> Another clue was that Cavalier first told you the school was not 
> dialing the number 'correctly'. What is the 'correct' way to dial it?
> If Verizon, (or whoever is the inter exchange carrier) and Cavalier
> have their tables (databases) set up correctly then it shouldn't
> matter how you dial, but this leads me to wonder if (whoever extended
> dial tone -- Verizon? -- to the school and you on your attempt) has
> some database error.  Obviously you can see there are a lot more
> questions to be answered in the process of resovling this mystery. In
> fact, let's get even a bit more extreme: what do you get if you dial
> your Cavalier number from a next door neighbor or even dial from your
> home phone?  ***Make certain you use a phone subscribed to Verizon
> for your tests.*** And if possible, also test using a phone which is
> subscribed to Cavalier.   Also try these tests before and after you
> have done whatever three-digit diddle is required to turn voice mail
> on and off (in other words ring through to me.)  Then please write
> again, and we will try to resolved it further.  Do not trouble the
> droids with all this, not at first. It would be good if you could tell
> them exactly what is wrong before they begin working on it.  PAT]

Slight confusion here in what I said.  Please re-read in my post "My
daughter's phone" to "My daughter's school".  (my daughter is only 6 yr
old :).  I'll try to answer/give more details now.  I'm only talking
about 1 problem ... calling from School phone to my home.  I only have
one phoneline at home.  It used to be Verizon and now it is Cavalier. 
I kept my phone number when switiching ... my number didn't change.

It seems like when I call from the school, it is getting routed to a
generic Verizon voicemail.  I know it is Verizon because the greeting
mentions Verizon. I tried to dial Verizon voicemail from my home
and enter my phone number as the mailbox, and my voice mail at Verizon
is not active anymore.

I have activated the Cavalier voice mail the day I got connection from
cavalier  and it works.  I have many people call me at my home,
neighbor, My Cell phone, International etc.  No problems with Cavalier
and their voicemail.  Only problem as far as I know is calling from
School.  I'll try calling from School to home on wednesday and write
again.  School was closed on Tuesday due to bad weather.


Thanks,

-John

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for some explanation. Now I 
want you to find out what telephone company serves the school, is it
Verizon or some other competitor (like you have Cavalier.) Also find
out what phone exchange serves the school. If the school is on Brand X
telecom, then maybe Brand X does not have their routing tables up to
date. Or maybe Brand X simply brokers through Verizon. Or maybe the
school is on Verizon.  You said 'I have many people call me and there
is no problem with Cavalier.'   No, there probably isn't any problem
with Cavalier. I would suggest the problem is with Verizon. 

When a person has voicemail and does not answer the phone or the line
is busy, the call is usually forwarded to a group of trunks which take
the call to voicemail, sending along with the called party the number
he was trying to reach and his own number, so the recipient voicemail
can examine it and say he goes to box whatever. Maybe when your number
was ported using LNP (local number portability) over to Cavalier,
whoever did that work forgot to change the 'forward to voicemail'
feature so that the call would go to Cavalier Voice Mail instead of
Verizon Voice mail. So Verizon winds up getting the voicemail call but
they no longer have an account for you. But you said 'friends from all
over town call me and reach me' (and I assume your genuine voicemail). 

Find out for me which of your friends is on the same exchange as the
school. What exchanges are they using in common?  I think what you
will find out is that anyone **on the same exchange as the school **
gets the very same results because there is something wrong in the
translation tables at the (Verizon-based) exchange the school is
on. In other words, a dozen phone subscribers on that exchange 
calling a dozen Cavalier subscribers would wind up getting the wrong
voicemail (if the dozen recipients of Cavalier had voicemail and were
called. It does not matter how many of your friends call you and get
through. People on the same exchange as the school most likely are not
getting through.

I as reminded of a time several years ago when Chicago area (read that
as Illinois Bell) customers could not get through to a given exchange
in Milwaukee. It existed, it was populated, but Illinois Bell handed
off their default calls to AT&T  (which had bad tables!). If you
called it as 1010+whatever carrier+the ten digit number you got
through okay. But 1+ failed, cause IBT was handing the traffic to
AT&T. I feel certain you are going to find something similar here in
your case.  Verizon (which after all, is where things are really at;
Cavalier only has some two bit thing going on) has a translation 
problem somewhere. But more details please. We are starting to get 
close.    PAT]

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    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (McWebber)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Joey Lindstrom)
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:04:47 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: U.S. Cellular Reports Fourth Quarter Results


CHICAGO, Feb. 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- United States Cellular
Corporation (Amex: USM) reported service revenues of $620.6 million
for the fourth quarter of 2003, up 8% from $575.4 million in the
comparable period a year ago. The company recorded operating income of
$24.3 million during the quarter, a decrease of $13.2 million, or 35%,
from the fourth quarter of 2002.

Operating expenses include a $22.3 million loss, primarily related to
the assets to be sold to AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. (NYSE:AWE)
("AT&T Wireless") pursuant to the transaction announced in November
2003.  The company recorded a net tax benefit in the quarter of $0.5
million, primarily due to the benefits of net operating losses,
including losses related to the sale of the South Texas markets.  Net
income and basic earnings per share were $20.6 million and $.24,
respectively compared to $14.6 million and $.17, respectively, in the
comparable period one year ago. In the fourth quarter of 2002, the
company recorded $16.5 million of pre-tax losses ($15.9 million net of
$0.6 million of taxes) related to the writedown in value of certain
investments.

The company's operating results include operations, through July 31,
2003, of the markets that were part of an exchange of assets with AT&T
Wireless that occurred in August 2003. The company's operating results
include, and will continue to include through the transaction closing
date, the operations of the markets that will be sold to AT&T Wireless
pursuant to the transaction announced in November 2003.


Fourth Quarter Highlights

    * Customer units totaled 4,409,000, a 7% increase from 4,103,000
      customers one year earlier.

    * Net customer unit activations from distribution channels totaled
      141,000 during the quarter, compared to 160,000 activations for
      the same quarter of 2002. Fourth quarter 2003 activity reflects
      the writeoff of 16,000 prepaid customers and 10,000 postpay
      customers based on a review of certain accounts. The 10,000
      postpay customer writeoffs are included in the fourth quarter 
      postpay churn calculation.

    * For the quarter, the company recorded postpay churn of 1.4%, which is
      favorable to industry averages and which is the company's lowest
      quarterly postpay churn rate since it began tracking the measure.

    * Average monthly retail service revenue per customer increased 3% year-
      over-year in the quarter to $39.68, compared to $38.69 in the same
      period a year ago.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40418206

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:58:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Terra Lycos and Network Associates(R) Team Up to Provide Online


     Terra Lycos and Network Associates(R) Team Up to Provide Online
     Security Protection for Consumers

Terra Lycos Users to Benefit from McAfee(R) VirusScan(R) and McAfee(R)
                       Personal Firewall Plus Services

SANTA CLARA, Calif. and MADRID, Spain, Feb. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Network
Associates, Inc. (NYSE:NET), the leading provider of intrusion
prevention solutions and Terra Lycos (Nasdaq: TRLY; MC:TRR), the
largest Internet access provider in Spain and Latin America, today
announced an agreement to deliver Network Associates McAfee(R)
VirusScan(R) and McAfee(R) Personal Firewall Plus protection to Terra
Lycos' worldwide customer base. The services will be available in
Spain and will roll out to Latin America and the U.S. later this
year. After downloading the McAfee Security software, Terra Lycos
customers will benefit from fully automatic and easy to use anti-virus
and firewall protection.

The agreement enables Terra Lycos customers to subscribe to Network
Associates McAfee VirusScan and McAfee Personal Firewall Plus online
services via the new Security Center on the Terra Lycos website, or as
an add-on feature packaged with customers' existing access
accounts. The monthly online subscription service enables products to
be delivered directly to the desktop, giving the customer convenience
and peace of mind that their PC will be protected through regular
automatic updates. McAfee Security anti-virus and firewall protection
will help to ensure Terra Lycos customers a secure Internet access
even as new threats arise.

After downloading the software, Terra Lycos customers will enjoy
protection against attacks from hackers and online threats such as the
recent "My Doom" virus which has been classified as the most virulent
virus ever.  Blaster and Love Bug are other viruses which have wreaked
havoc amongst consumers, with the Love Bug infecting more than 40
million computers worldwide and resulting in billions of dollars in
clean up costs.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40418433

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:40:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Very Black 'Little Black Books'


Roger Clarke

Abstract

Technology and human ingenuity continue to pose new privacy
challenges. During 2003, a new dot.com fashion arose from an odd
amalgam of Rolodex address-books, e-communities and dating. Users of
these services store personal data on a central server, which can be
accessed by other people, and, potentially at least, exploited by the
service-operator. There are privacy concerns, of a kind that has been
analysed many times before.

The new dimension that these services bring is that they entice users
to disclose personal data about their friends, business contacts or
acquaintances. That is a disturbing feature, and it requires careful
analysis.

http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/DV/ContactPITs.html

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 01:14:59 -0500


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to a message sent by Hank Karl
<notgiven@nothere.com> in message news:telecom23.55.11@telecom-digest.org:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Since you mentioned Dell Support, let's
> The people in the back seat reach out, grab the clerk and pull him
> into the car and speed away. The clerk is shown now sitting in the
> back seat, yelling frantically at the people saying, "Let me go! What
> do you want from me?". The car driver turns around and says to the
> folks in the back seat, "do not tell anyone about this."

I thought he said, "Don't tell your mom about this."


McWebber
No email replies read
If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends
please forget that I'm your friend.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Maybe so. You know there about ten or
so different edited versions of most advertising messages on
television. For example, the Advil commercial. One verion has a man
limping up the sidewalk greeting his wife telling her the doctor has
prescribed Advil. The other version has a woman and her husband
getting out of bed in the morning; she is very stiff and sore, and
tells her husband the doctor has prescribed the same thing, an Advil
tablet before bedtime. At that point however the message takes a turn:
In one version of both, the other partner looks shocked and says, but
we have always taken Brand X (by name); the other partner dismisses
that with, 'Yes, I know, but the doctor says ...' the other version of
the very same commercial edits out that reference to Brand X and very
smoothly continues telling the good things about Advil.  I do not know
if they were trying to save five seconds (times how many stations) on
their advertising bill, or if the lawyers for Brand X got on their 
case. Same man and woman in each case. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:30:25 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?


Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 10:54:19 PM, TELECOM Digest Editor noted:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Since you mentioned Dell Support,
> let's chat about them for a minute.  Has anyone seen that very funny
> commmercial on television where a car load of people pull up to a
> Radio Shack store just at closing time? The clerk is walking out,
> and locking the door of the store when he sees this car full of
> people looking at him and giggling. The clerk approaches the car
> questioningly, and asks the people, "May I help you?"

I've never seen a big-box Radio Shack store up here in Canada, do they
have them south of the border?

The store in the commercial is not a Radio Shack, but a "generic"
big-box computer/electronics store.  Think about it: had Dell used the
Radio Shack trademark in this spot, they'd have been sued faster than
Ruben Studdard through the front door at Krispy Kreme's when the Hot
Light goes on.

I don't recall anybody giggling at that point in the commercial, either.

Speaking of commercials, why are we so hung up about this Janet
Jackson thing?  Why has nobody mentioned, or taken offense to, the Bud
Lite "horse fart" commercial during the Super Bowl?  For those that
missed it, a guy and a girl are riding behind a horse, and he gives
her a candle, then turns away for a moment, and during that moment,
the horse lifts its tail, lets out a blast, and the resulting flame
scorches his girlfriend.

To me, that's FAR worse than Janet's boob.

Who knew LaToya would turn out to be the "normal" one in that family?


Joey Lindstrom
Come see http://td-extra.interocitor.net

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess so, if you feel that exposing
yourself on national TV is 'normal' behavior. Although I personally
feel Michael is innocent in this latest affair, victimized by a very
noisy mother, I also think he is just as goofy as she is. I do not
watch much television, and certainly not the Super Bowl. Thanks for
reminding me why not. I did not see either the horse incident or the
instance of LaToya Jackson's indecent exposure, but I certainly am
reading a lot about it.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:15:19 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: 450-434 Prefix?


Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 10:54:19 PM, Dave Garland wrote:

>> One of the calls appearing on a just-received AT&T bill says it was
>> from "CANADA USA"

> Oops.  That wasn't supposed to be used until after the invasion had
> begun.  :)

No, that can't be right, otherwise it would have said "USA, Canada".  ;-)

Don't make us come down there and burn down the White House again... :-)


Joey Lindstrom
Come see http://td-extra.interocitor.net

------------------------------

From: BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: SIP IP PHones
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 05:12:37 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Hard Phones:

3com?
Aastra 480i SIP - coming Q2 '04 Expected $250 USD
Arrayvox: SIP, MGCP, H.323 - $179 - $189 USD
BCM - SIP, MGCP, H.323: HP180, HP300
D-Link - SIP phone, 1 line display (Russian site)
farfon IAX Device coming Q104 Expected $100 USD
Grandstream Budgetone - Approx $65 USD
Cisco Phones - Approx $150 to $400 USD
Clipcomm Phones SIP and H.323. incl PSTN jack and small NAT/router - Approx.
$165 USD
Inter-fone
Innovaphone? - H.323 and ISDN website (cache)
IPDialog Phones SIP - Approx $200 USD
Microsoft Windows Messenger: SIP udp/tcp, for Windows XP, free
Mitel Phones
Ortena SIP Phones - Approx $100 - $120
Pingtel Phones
Planet Phones H.323 incl PSTN jack - Approx 166 ? Euro (excl. VAT)
Polycom Phones - Approx $250 - $450 USD
QTelNet Phones
Sayson Phones - makes some of the Aastra phones
Siemens Phones OptiPoint 400 - Approx. 275 British pounds
Snom Phones Linux based, with GSM codec - Approx $199 to $299 USD
Suncomm Phones OEM of the Welltech and Planet handsets - Approx $120 USD
SwissVoice H.323 or MGCP (SIP announced) - Approx. $149 USD / 140 ? Euro
SysConfig ipDialog SipTone - see IPDialog above
Telebau Phones H.323 with optional S0 gateway(s) (ISDN BRI)
Telstrat IP Phone i2732? SCCP - Approx. $420 USD
Virbiage Phones: SIP and IAX, includes also "open" codecs
Welltech Phones LAN phone 301: SIP (no display); H.323 (incl. POTS): $100
USD
Zultys phones 'ZIP 2': $100, 'ZIP 4x4': $350 (with SRTP/AES encryption)
World Phone USB Plug & Play, h.323 protocol, dial up (as low as 8Kbs) to
Broadband, operates behind routers and NAT, full duplex.
$29.95/month-unlimited calling.

Taken from www.voip-info.org, they also have lists of softphones and WLAN
phones.

Cheers,

Brett

George Muenz <run1500@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.55.10@telecom-digest.org:

> Hi: We are looking to implement the Asterisk System. Looking at a few
> handset vendors as well.

> Would apprecaite any feedback or comments on these as well as if you
> know any vendors who can supply this cheap, or resources where they
> can be searched.

> Handsets

> Polycom SoundPoint IP 600 SIP
> Zultys ZIP 4x4
> Snom Snom200 VoIP phone
> ipDialog SipTone Ethernet

> Thanks,

> George Muenz

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading away in U.S.
Date: 4 Feb 2004 06:33:07 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Phil McKerracher <phil@mckerracher.org> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.55.8@telecom-digest.org>:

> Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:telecom23.54.5@telecom-digest.org:

>> ... Color phones are many
>> times useless outside as the screen gets washed out in bright light
>> where a regular monochrome handset you can still see what's in the
>> display...

> Unless the screen is "transreflective" as on the O2 xda, which I
> have found surprisingly good, even in bright sunlight (Australian
> summer).
 
>> ...  Polyphonic ringtones may sound somewhat cool, but if you can't
>> hear them in a noisy environment they are also useless... 
>> True, but a well chosen one (e.g. spanning a range of frequencies)
>> can actually be more audible than a monophonic one. They also
>> avoid confusion about whose phone is ringing.  

>> Believe it or not some people want a mobile phone that they can
>> actually make and receive calls on ... easily.  Again, I've found
>> it very convenient to have all my Outlook contacts in the xda,
>> dialable with a single tap on the number.

>> It's going to be many years if never that cell phones supplant
>> personal computers as a way to communicate data.  Hmm. Again, my
>> xda is very useful for sending and receiving e-mail on the move. I
>> have used it recently to e-mail diagnostic oscilloscope traces from
>> a lab, to retrieve a streetmap of my current location from a car
>> and to find a timetable for buses from Heathrow. It's MUCH more
>> convenient to carry than a laptop, and the battery lasts all day.

>> It hasn't "supplanted" my PC because I prefer to use that when
>> I'm at > home, but I wouldn't be without it when I'm on the
>> move. That's not to say it's perfect - it crashes regularly for a
>> start - but I think the principle is good.  The "gimmicks" of a
>> camera and other new features in cell phones aren't used by the
>> vast majority of cell phone users.  The devices are becoming so
>> complicated that many business people don't have time to fool with
>> them.  They want something they can pick up, store numbers into and
>> then use the device to make calls with.  They don't want to have to
>> jump through hoops and remember to put the device into a cradle to
>> sync it with their e-mail, calendar or other functions on the
>> computer - and contrary to popular opinion, most sales people would
>> rather write things in an day timer type of journal rather than
>> rely on an electronic device.  You can put more write more
>> information on a page than you can enter into a PDA in the same
>> amount of time.

By the time you dig through your carry case to pull out the keyboard,
unfold it, attach the PDA -- and then find the device won't balance on
your knees, the meeting is over and you have no notes.  Your fancy
$500 PDA with built-in phone, is now as useful as a brick.  And who
wants to hold one of those things up to your ear and try to make a
phone call?

My Nokia 8260 still runs fine and does everything I need it to do, and
my portfolio with notepad takes all the notes I need along with
holding much more information than any PDA.

Rodgers Platt

------------------------------

From: Ken Abrams <k_abrams@[REMOVETHIS]sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Switch Verizon to Cavalier, Can't Get Through From Some Places
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 14:50:48 GMT


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to John <jvj1@yahoo.com>:

> Or maybe the school is on Verizon.  You said 'I have many people
> call me and there is no problem with Cavalier.'  No, there probably
> isn't any problem with Cavalier. I would suggest the problem is with
> Verizon.

My bet is:

The school's phone works out of the same switch as John's home phone.
Calls placed from that switch are the only ones that fail.

Because:

Calls from any other switch are routed based upon a query to a common
data base.  They seem to work.

Calls from within the home switch will NOT query the common database
unless the number record in that switch says to make that query.  It
appears that the number record in his home Verizon switch was not
updated properly.

------------------------------

From: electroknot@yahoo.com (roger)
Subject: Re: MTV Blames Janet Jackson for Super Bowl Incident
Date: 4 Feb 2004 09:06:43 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Janet shouldn't even be at the stupid bowl.

And, stupid bowl sucked this year. Two teams no one cares about ...

http://www.twelvefifteen.com

------------------------------

From: s falke <busbar@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: MTV Blames Janet Jackson for Super Bowl Incident
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:27:17 GMT


> NEW YORK, Feb 3 (Reuters) - Singer Janet Jackson masterminded the
> Super Bowl halftime stunt that left her right breast exposed and
> prompted a federal probe into television indecency, the head of MTV
> said on Tuesday.


MTV taking a prudish stance?  Imagine that.

It was cheap duct tape.

--s falke

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:09:53 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Jackson, Timberlake Apologize for Flash


Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 10:54:19 PM, Monty wrote:

> NEW YORK (AP) -- CBS, MTV, the NFL, Janet Jackson and Justin
> Timberlake all say they're sorry _ but none of that is deterring the
> federal government from looking into the Super Bowl's too-revealing
> halftime show.

And she wore that throwing star on her nipple because it's comfy.  :-)

Joey Lindstrom
Come see http://td-extra.interocitor.net

------------------------------

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    Akamai Reports Fourth Quarter 2003 & Full-Year 2003 Financial (Solomon)
    TiVo & Nielsen Media Research Agree to Market DVR Usage (Monty Solomon)
    Computer, TV, Stereo? (Monty Solomon)
    Microsoft Security Bulletins (Monty Solomon)
    IVR System Information Request (Brett Nelson)
    Re: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VOIP (Charles Hizark)
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:03:23 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Akamai Reports Fourth Quarter 2003 and Full-Year 2003 Financial


CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 4, 2004--Akamai
Technologies, Inc. (NASDAQ:AKAM):

    -- Record fourth quarter revenue of $45.2 million, up 8%
       quarter-over-quarter, and up 28% year-over-year

    --  Annual revenue grew to $161.3 million, up 11% year-over-year

    --  GAAP net loss narrowed to $0.02 per share

    --  First ever normalized net income(a) of $1.5 million, or $0.01
        per share

Akamai Technologies, Inc. (NASDAQ:AKAM), the global leader in
distributed computing solutions and services, today reported financial
results for the fourth quarter and full-year ended December 31, 2003.
Revenue for the fourth quarter 2003 was $45.2 million, an 8.1 percent
increase over third quarter revenue of $41.8 million, and a 27.7
percent increase over fourth quarter 2002 revenue of $35.4 million.
Total revenue for 2003 was $161.3 million.

Net loss, in accordance with United States Generally Accepted
Accounting Principles (GAAP), for the fourth quarter 2003 was $2.1
million, or $0.02 per share, compared to a net loss for the third
quarter 2003 of $3.9 million, or $0.03 per share, and compared to a
net loss of $55.6 million, or $0.48 per share, in the fourth quarter
of 2002. Included in the fourth quarter 2003 net loss is $2.1 million
of expenses associated with the retirement of debt.

For the first time in its history, the Company achieved positive
earnings per share of $0.01 on a normalized basis(a), generating $1.5
million positive net income for the fourth quarter, compared to a
normalized net loss(a) for the prior quarter of $0.03 per share, or
$3.5 million, and compared to First Call's consensus estimate for the
fourth quarter of a normalized net loss of $0.01 per share. ((a)See
Use of Non-GAAP Financial Measures below for definitions.)

Akamai ended the year with $208.4 million in cash, cash
equivalents, restricted cash, marketable securities and restricted
marketable securities, including $95.8 million in net debt proceeds
and redemptions, an increase from $99.0 million at the end of the
third quarter.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40430314

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:02:38 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo and Nielsen Media Research Agree to Market DVR Usage


SAN JOSE, Calif., Feb. 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Nielsen Media
Research, the global leader in television measurement services, and
TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO), the pioneer in digital video recording (DVR)
services, have signed an agreement to deliver information on DVR usage
to the television industry. This new service, which will be marketed
by Nielsen Media Research, will aid advertisers and television
executives seeking to understand the opportunities and effects of
growing DVR usage.

Consistent with their dedication to industry privacy standards, TiVo
and Nielsen will collect data on television viewing patterns and
trends by creating an Opt-In panel of TiVo's standalone
subscribers. This fully consensual panel will provide key information
for the purposes of analyzing, processing and marketing DVR usage data
to the television industry.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40430118

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Computer? TV? Stereo?
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:00:00 EST


By WALTER S. MOSSBERG

EVERYONE KNOWS that personal computers come in a variety of styles and
types-desktops, laptops, tablet PCs and so forth. But gradually, over
the past year, a new major subtype has elbowed its way onto the family
tree: the Windows Media Center PC.

A Media Center PC is a high-end, well-equipped Windows PC that has a
TV tuner built in and that uses a special version of Microsoft's
Windows XP operating system called the Media Center Edition. It can be
used on a desk or lap, just like any Windows computer. But it comes
with a remote control and is meant to be operated, at least some of
the time, from across the room. In this mode, you can use a Media
Center PC to watch and record television, play your digital music
files, view photos and video clips, and play DVDs.

When Microsoft first envisioned a Media Center PC a couple of years
ago, it was seen as a niche product for dorm rooms and teenagers'
bedrooms. The theory was that computers would likely be placed in
these rooms anyway, so they might as well contain functions that would
eliminate the need to equip these rooms with TV sets, VCRs, DVD
players and audio systems.

But the machines proved popular with consumers, and in many more
settings than teenagers' rooms. So this winter lots of PC makers are
offering Media Center PCs, in both desktop and laptop versions. Some
of these models are designed to look like flat-panel TVs or even
stereo components, in hopes consumers will place them in the family
room instead of the home office.

As with so many other products, Microsoft didn't invent the idea of a
Media Center computer but is merely refining the work of pioneers.
Years ago Apple Computer sold a sleek, black Macintosh model called
the Mac TV, with a built-in TV tuner and an elegant remote control the
size of a credit card. And various Windows PC makers have also tried
PCs with built-in TVs and remotes. Especially notable in this regard
was Packard Bell, once the king of low-priced retail PCs.

http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/report-200401.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Security Bulletins
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:00:00 CST


Security Bulletins
http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/

Read About the New Security Bulletin Process
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/revsbwp.asp

Technical Bulletins
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/technet/security/current.asp?frame=true

Learn How to Spot a Bogus Security Bulletin
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/authenticate_mail.asp

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: As a general rule of thumb, Microsoft
Security things (and other updates/improvements to their software)
do not come in email.  They don't write to people in general about it.
You get them by going to the Microsoft Windows Update site. At your
computer, go to a blank, fresh browser screen and type in the address
of record for Microsoft Updates. That's the only safe way to do it.
PAT]

------------------------------

From: BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: IVR System Information Request
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:26:31 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Looking for feedback on www.locusdialog.com speech-enabled auto
attendant and call routing solutions. Hearing about any experiences
with this product or similar products, good or bad or otherwise would
be appreciated.


Regards,

Brett Nelson

------------------------------

From: hizark21@yahoo.com (Charles Hizark)
Subject: Re: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP
Date: 4 Feb 2004 15:28:34 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Chainsman <chainsman@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.10.5@telecom-digest.org>:

> Hi, I use Vonage VoIP with my home telephone system in a NATted and
> firewalled network and it works fine.  If you order Vonage now, the
> current device has a simple firewall and NAT function so you can use
> it like a gateway.  The most important reason to do this is that your
> firewall will probably not pass-through the Quality-of-Service (QoS)
> tagged packets.  If you use the Vonage device between your gateway and
> your cable/DSL modem then the QoS tags are used and, probably more
> importantly, the VoIP network activity gets the highest priority over
> your networks' internally-generated traffic.

> The layout that gives VoIP the highest priority (via QoS over the
> cable modem network and priority over all your internal network's
> traffic): network --> gateway/router --> Vonage device --> cable modem

Cable companies use DOCIS 2.0 (Data over cable interface
specification). DoCIS 2.0 is a form of broadband ATM. This allows flow
control or hard QOS. Hard QOS is garunteed bandwidth delivery.

> I have used it in both modes and if you are doing online games you
> will probably not like the firewall and NAT function but if you depend
> on the Vonage for your primary phone line (I do not) you will want it
> as the last device before the modem.

> It should be noted that Cisco was not interested in adding the
> NAT/Firewall feature to their VoIP box so that's why Vonage is only
> using the Motorola box now.

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:06:24 -0500


McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.56.4@telecom-digest.org:

> tablet before bedtime. At that point however the message takes a turn:
> In one version of both, the other partner looks shocked and says, but
> we have always taken Brand X (by name); the other partner dismisses
> that with, 'Yes, I know, but the doctor says ...' the other version of
> the very same commercial edits out that reference to Brand X and very
> smoothly continues telling the good things about Advil.  I do not know
> if they were trying to save five seconds (times how many stations) on
> their advertising bill, or if the lawyers for Brand X got on their
> case. Same man and woman in each case. PAT]

IIRC, the old Advertising Code had some rules about comparative
advertising and brand names and some stations may still have such
rules so as not to piss off the other company.

McWebber

"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Maybe so, but I have seen both versions
of the commercial on the same station (TV Land, which is about the
only thing I watch on the idiot box other than occassional PBS shows
on Channel 11. Mostly I listen to radio, especially while working.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: panoptes@iquest.net (Daniel W. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: 4 Feb 2004 14:59:05 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


TELECOM Digest Editor added in message
news:<telecom23.56.5@telecom-digest.org>:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess so, if you feel that exposing
> yourself on national TV is 'normal' behavior. Although I personally
> feel Michael is innocent in this latest affair, victimized by a very
> noisy mother, I also think he is just as goofy as she is. I do not
> watch much television, and certainly not the Super Bowl. Thanks for
> reminding me why not. I did not see either the horse incident or the
> instance of LaToya Jackson's indecent exposure, but I certainly am
> reading a lot about it.  PAT]

I haven't read anything about indecent exposure on the part of LaToya,
just the incident with her younger sister Janet on the Super Bowl
halftime show.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My bad ... I should have said 'Janet'
instead of 'LaToya'.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Organization: ATCC
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 19:00:24 GMT


In article <telecom23.56.8@telecom-digest.org>, a_user2000@yahoo.com 
says:
 
> By the time you dig through your carry case to pull out the keyboard,
> unfold it, attach the PDA -- and then find the device won't balance on
> your knees, the meeting is over and you have no notes.  Your fancy
> $500 PDA with built-in phone, is now as useful as a brick.  And who
> wants to hold one of those things up to your ear and try to make a
> phone call?

> My Nokia 8260 still runs fine and does everything I need it to do, and
> my portfolio with notepad takes all the notes I need along with
> holding much more information than any PDA.

If they really want the things to be used in meetings for notes, etc.
why not build a decent voice recognition system in that can not only
detect and parse speech, but identify speaker. That would make a
useful tool.

Buttons are the rule of the day. It's what happens when we give the 
engineers free reign without considering the human element. I'm 
surprised none of the manufacturers have figured that out yet. 

------------------------------

From: Phil McKerracher <phil@mckerracher.org>
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:25:58 GMT
Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder)


Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.56.8@telecom-digest.org:

[Some quoting omitted, part of it erroneously attributed to me]

> By the time you dig through your carry case to pull out the keyboard,
> unfold it, attach the PDA -- and then find the device won't balance on
> your knees, the meeting is over and you have no notes.  Your fancy
> $500 PDA with built-in phone, is now as useful as a brick ...

That's why no keyboard is actually available for mine. You either
write on the screen as you would on paper, or record a voice memo
(useful if only one hand is free). You can also take a picture with
the camera ones. I've taken a picture of a train timetable and an
information board with a digital camera to save transcribing the bits
I want, for example.

> ...  And who wants to hold one of those things up to your ear and
> try to make a phone call?

I don't find this a problem at all, the palm size is comfortable.

> My Nokia 8260 still runs fine and does everything I need it to do, and
> my portfolio with notepad takes all the notes I need along with
> holding much more information than any PDA.

> Rodgers Platt

Surely you don't really mean the "holding much more information" bit?
I currently have a couple of e-books in my xda, taking up much less
physical space than paper would. They can also be read in a dark
bedroom or plane without disturbing other people.

Paper notes are much harder to back up, search or share. I don't see
any advantage at all, except that there's no battery to go flat.


Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.org

------------------------------

From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com>
Subject: Re: Jackson, Timberlake Apologize for Flash
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:03:16 -0600
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com


On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:22:30 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> Federal Communications Commission chief Michael Powell on Monday
> promised an investigation into whether CBS violated decency laws, with
> potential fines of up to $27,500. If applied to each CBS station, the
> fine could reach into the millions.

Does anyone else wonder why they keep mentioning that affiliates may
be fined?  How in the hell did some little CBS affiliate in West
Undershirt, Iowa have anything to do with it?  They just pass through
what the CBS network feeds them, they had *NO IDEA* they should be
watching this in case they needed to censor it.  As far as they knew
it was simply a football game.  The affiliates do not normally censor
what the network is sending them in less they have reason to believe
ahead of time that something offensive to their local audience is
about to be broadcast.

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: What If ...? Was Re: Verizon Violates DNC List
Organization: ATCC
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 19:04:25 GMT


In article <telecom23.55.9@telecom-digest.org>, george@coventry.m5p.com 
says:

> TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to a message:

>> Even though officially the Bell System has been dead for many years,
>> the droids continue to act like Ma Bell was still around, as much as
>> they are permitted, don't they? I think those people act like
>> divestiture was merely a stumbling-block, a minor inconvenience in
>> their path. PAT]

> Verizon, of course, would have been an impossibility pre-divestiture,
> and even at the beginning of 1999, who would have dreamed of a merger
> between the largest independent telco with a big chunk of the old Bell
> System?  As I was pondering Verizon's history this morning, it occurred
> to me to wonder what was on Judge Greene's mind when he repartitioned
> the old Bell System into the seven Baby Bells.  What would have hap-
> pened if he had simply spun off the existing Bell operating companies
> with the nominal corporate structure which existed at the time?  Surely
> some of us would still be dealing with New England Telephone, or Paci-
> fic Northwest Bell, etc.  Would anything the size of Bell Atlantic have
> merged together by this point, to be merged in its turn with GTE?

New England Telephone and New York Telephone were the first to group
together as Nynex. I don't think that Judge Greene envisioned the
arguments about economies of scale that would be put forth by the
companies. Nor did he think about diseconomies of scale as is so the
case with Verizon absorbing GTE.

When you think about it, Bell Atlantic probably was in the best
financial position to start all this. They pretty much had the prime
areas that weren't all that expensive to service and they had some
plum government contracts.

------------------------------

From: me@virtuallabrat.com (Virtual Lab Rat - No Spam Please)
Subject: Real time ANI service needed on toll free lines
Date: 4 Feb 2004 13:18:13 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I currently use kall8.com and telcan.net for toll free service.  I
don't need the ability to change the ring to number in real time, and
I don't need many of the other value added features these services
offer.  The only value added feature I need is real time ANI or near
real time ANI that I can access thorugh the web or that is passed
through as caller ID.  At one time I used a service called IPHONE, I
think they resold Worldcom service.  I paid 4 cents per minute at
straight 6 sec increments.  They passed the ANI through to Caller ID.
Even if the caller had blocked their caller ID info, I could see it.
I am looking for a similar service at a similar price.  Would
appriciate any suggestions.

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: SCO Options, was Re: Mydoom vs. SCO
Date: 4 Feb 2004 13:41:00 -0800
Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com]


In article <telecom23.54.6@telecom-digest.org>, Kenneth P. Stox says:

>> 	"The assault on SCO is expected to last until 12 February. 
>> 	Until then, SCO has said it will use the alternative 
>> 	domain name www.thescogroup.com."

> Strange. www.sco.com resolves to 216.250.128.12, and www.thescogroup.com 
> resolves to 216.250.128.21. Now then, if I was someone with more than 
> one interconnected neuron, and I was expecting a DOS attack, wouldn't I 
> try to locate the other server on another network? Naahhhhhh!

That may have been the prior address of www.sco.com. At this instant,
www.sco.com doesn't resolve to any IP address; SCO removed that name
from the name servers. I presume they did this action early enough so
that the name would be flushed from the caches of any
normally-operating name servers -- before the attacks started.

Comments on neuron interconnectivity aside, SCO's strategy of dealing
with the threat appears to be working: responsiveness on requests to
www.thescogroup.com is prompt.


--phil

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:21:12 EST
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: "David Nelson" in a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Article


On Jan. 18 or so, subject newspaper in western Pennsylvania had the
story of an arrest in auction scam.  I take it many of you heard of
the scenario of the seller (of car or animal or other item) being
sent a cashier's or certified check (probably by a 3rd party) for a
few thousand dollars more than what the seller asked for, with the
seller being asked to wire the difference to the buyer.  (The scam
scenario is that that check will be found to be counterfeit, with
the scammers hoping that the money to be wired by the seller will
be gone by then.)

Anyway, there is a note of a scammer sometimes using the name of David
Nelson online.  David Nelson?!?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sigh ... David Nelson always was the
black sheep in the family, wasn't he?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Chris Jones <clj@panix.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! Re: Some *Good News* About Norvergence!
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:41:05 -0500


In response to Brett's (BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>) response
to Pat, I just have to say, isn't that America, to you and me?
Norvergence is out there following in the footsteps of PT Barnum with
the Feds sniffing around their heels to see if any illicit money might
turn up, and you want to point fingers?  You want to name names?
There's more than enough gravy to sink this boat, so all aboard!
Down with naysayers, up with profiteers, and it's everyone on the
bandwagon for hiself!  Women and children first!  Forward, upward,
outtasight!  Excelsior ad whooosh!

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    "My Advice to Social Networking Services" (Monty Solomon)
    AT&T Wireless & T-Mobile USA Sign Airport Wi-Fi Roaming (Monty Solomon)
    Three Blind Phreaks (Monty Solomon)
    Connecting 4-Wire (Line-in and Line-out) to a Headset Jack (Newsgroups)
    The NUG-IT Magazine for Telecom Professionals (Pokey)
    Unused 800 Number - Ending in 1000 - Can I Rent it Out? (Chris Barr)
    You Switched -TO- Cavalier? (Carl Moore)
    Re: Switch Verizon to Cavalier, Can't Get Through Some Places (John)
    Re: Jackson, Timberlake Apologize for Flash (Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
    Re: MTV Blames Janet Jackson for Super Bowl Incident (Laurie Laws)
    Re: What If ...? Was Re: Verizon Violates DNC List (jbl)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Herb Stein)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Ken Alper)
    Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S. (email@crazyhat.net)
    Call for Papers: ICWIN 2004 (Wireless Networks) (Mishra, Aishvarya)

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:02:17 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: "My Advice to Social Networking Services"


Christopher Allen

I have now had CEOs of three different social networks send me emails
asking me to compare Orkut to their service. I've not had a chance to
dig deeply into good answers for each specific one, but I did have
some general advice that I wanted to offer given my recent experiences
with Orkut.com, and my evaluation and followup on various social
networking services in December.


http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2004/02/my_advice_to_so.html


Confirmed Email Privacy Hole at Orkut

Christopher Allen

Another Orkut user and I have confirmed a privacy hole in Orkut
whenever you send a message to someone via Orkut.

http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2004/02/confirmed_email.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 09:25:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile USA Sign Airport Wi-Fi Roaming


Agreement Covers Wi-Fi at Denver International, Philadelphia
   International and San Francisco International Airports

BELLEVUE, Wash. and REDMOND, Wash., Feb. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ --
Driving expanded Wi-Fi (802.11b) service coverage at the nation's
airports, T-Mobile USA, Inc. and AT&T Wireless (NYSE:AWE) today
announced a reciprocal Wi-Fi roaming agreement for Denver
International (DIA), Philadelphia International (PHL) and San
Francisco International (SFO) airports.  Today's announcement marks
the first roaming agreement between AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile for
Wi-Fi service.

As a result of this roaming agreement, T-Mobile HotSpot subscribers
can soon add DIA and PHL to the list of hotspot locations available to
them to stay connected to the Internet, access their corporate
networks, or check e-mail via a Wi-Fi enabled laptop or PDA.  For AT&T
Wireless Wi-Fi customers, the roaming agreement means they will be
able to use their Wi-Fi device throughout the public areas of SFO.
The companies' respective customers will be able to roam using their
existing user ID and password.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40441795

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:33:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Three Blind Phreaks


Issue 12.02 - February 2004

Three Blind Phreaks

How the phone-phreaking Badir brothers ran rings around Israel's 
telcos for six scam-filled years.

By Michael Kaplan

Inside the chintz-filled living room of the Badir family's neat and
modest home, a feast of freshly roasted chicken, saffron rice, and
seasoned vegetable stew perfumes the air. Friends and relatives pour
through the front door to congratulate 27-year-old Munther "Ramy"
Badir. He's just been released from prison after serving 47 months for
computer-related crimes. Outside, Islamic prayers resonate from
speakers on a truck moving slowly down the dusty streets of Kafr
Kassem. Everyone in this Israeli village -- populated mostly by Arabs
-- appears ecstatic to have Ramy back.

But he does not see their smiles. Ramy, along with two of his three
brothers, has been blind since birth due to a genetic defect. He and
his sightless brothers have devoted their lives to proving they can
out-think, out-program, and out-hack anyone with vision. (Their
sighted brother, Ashraf, is a baker with no tech leanings.) They've
been remarkably successful. Ramy says dryly, "A computer that is safe
and protected is a computer stacked in a warehouse and unplugged."

Israeli authorities agree. The 44 charges leveled against Ramy,
Muzher, and Shadde Badir in 1999 included telecommunications fraud,
theft of computer data, and impersonation of a police officer. The
brothers' six-year spree of hacking into phone systems and hijacking
telephone time ended when they were convicted of stealing credit card
numbers and breaking into the Israeli army radio station's telephone
system to set up an illicit phone company. Unwitting customers -
mostly Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza Strip - paid the fake
telco for long distance calls that were billed to the radio station.
A lawyer close to the case said that the Badirs' scams pulled in more
than $2 million.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/phreaks.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 01:11:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Newsgroups <lonergan@hotmail.com>
Subject: Connecting 4-Wire (Line-in and Line-out) to a headset jack
Organization: Optimum Online


I bought a USRobotics ConferenceLink Speakerphone from Heartland
America for 30 bucks.  Originally 400 or so.  That's the good news.
What they didn't tell me was that it is designed to work with PBX's
(obsolete ones at that) and it _won't_ work with analog POTS lines.
I'm a techie, so rather than send it back like any rational person, I
am determined to make it work.

It comes with the connector for the PBX (worthless), but because it's
USRobotics, it also comes with a connector to two mini-jacks that are
line-in and line-out to a computer sound card.  I tried it with my
speakerphone-enabled modem card and it works.  The qualilty is not
good, however, because of interference inside my home-made computer
box (my guess).

Then I got this bright idea.  I have a great Sony handset that has a
headset jack.  In the end what I want is the speakerphone to connect
into the headset jack of the Sony handset. To make that work, I need
to bridge between the 4 wire (line-in and line-out) jacks to a headset
jack.  RadioSnack doesn't have anything built for it (I've tried).
I'm willing to cut wires and have the appropriate jacks to do it, but
I'm confused about what to attach to what.  There are two wires each
going to the line-in and line-out jacks from the USRobotics
ConferenceLink.  It looks like there are two (maybe three?) going to
the headset.  Can someone tell me how to connect this up?

Thanks in advance for your help!

------------------------------

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Subject: The NUG-IT Magazine for Telecom Professionals
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:00:25 -0500


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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 11:13:25 -0500
From: Chris Barr <c-barr@comcast.net>
Reply-To: c-barr@comcast.net
Subject: Unused 800 Number - Ending in 1000 - Can I Rent it Out?


We currently have an 800 number that won't be in active use for
probably 2 years.  It's an attractive number, ending in 1000.

Can this be leased or rented out to another company?

In advance, thanks for any feedback.

Chris Barr

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:19:29 EST
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: You Switched -TO- Cavalier?


Some time ago (starting in July 2002 or so) I told the story of having
to have my lines taken back by Verizon after Cavalier withdrew from
the part of Maryland where I live (I am in the North East exchange in
Cecil County, and had subscribed to Conectiv local calling, later
taken over by Cavalier, because it offered local service to northern
Delaware, where some of my phone traffic goes).  But in going from
Verizon to Conectiv/Cavalier and back to Verizon, my phone numbers did
not change.

Where in Maryland is your Cavalier service?

------------------------------

From: jvj1@yahoo.com (John)
Subject: Re: Switch Verizon to Cavalier, Can't Get Through From Some Places
Date: 4 Feb 2004 22:17:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Just called from school to my home.  Now the calls are getting
through ... Voice mail is also working.  I'm sure the school and home
is same exchange, it is only few blocks away.

Thanks for replying.

-John

Ken Abrams <k_abrams@[REMOVETHIS]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.56.9@telecom-digest.org>:

> TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to John <jvj1@yahoo.com>:

>> Or maybe the school is on Verizon.  You said 'I have many people
>> call me and there is no problem with Cavalier.'  No, there probably
>> isn't any problem with Cavalier. I would suggest the problem is with
>> Verizon.

> My bet is:

> The school's phone works out of the same switch as John's home phone.
> Calls placed from that switch are the only ones that fail.

> Because:

> Calls from any other switch are routed based upon a query to a common
> data base.  They seem to work.

> Calls from within the home switch will NOT query the common database
> unless the number record in that switch says to make that query.  It
> appears that the number record in his home Verizon switch was not
> updated properly.

------------------------------

From: Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <73115.1041@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Jackson, Timberlake Apologize for Flash
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 19:16:41 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com> wrote:

> Does anyone else wonder why they keep mentioning that affiliates may
> be fined?  How in the hell did some little CBS affiliate in West
> Undershirt, Iowa have anything to do with it?  They just pass through
> what the CBS network feeds them, they had *NO IDEA* they should be
> watching this in case they needed to censor it.  As far as they knew
> it was simply a football game.  

Because the affiliate is the one who holds the license for use of the
public airways and agrees to abide by the rules for that particular
chuck of public spectrum. Most of the FCC authority over the network
relates to Owned and Operated stations -- that is, stations the
network runs directly.

>The affiliates do not normally censor what the network is sending
>them unless they have reason to believe ahead of time that something
>offensive to their local audience is about to be broadcast.

Isn't that interesting ... You've just summed up the problem that most
people have with J&J's little stunt.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 21:51:55 -0500
From: Laurie Laws <laurie.laws@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MTV Blames Janet Jackson for Super Bowl Incident


roger wrote:

> Janet shouldn't even be at the stupid bowl.

> And, stupid bowl sucked this year. Two teams no one cares about ...

Try again.  The Nielsen numbers were 44.2/Rating 63/Share.  It was one
of the best games ever for the Super Bowl, suspenseful right up to the
last few seconds.   Hardly something 'no one cares about'.  In New
England, the share was even higher.

------------------------------

From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: What If ...? was Re: Verizon Violates DNC List
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:19:39 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.57.12@telecom-digest.org>,
noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> wrote:

> New England Telephone and New York Telephone were the first to group
> together as Nynex. 

That's not quite how it worked.  After the reorg in 1984, the 22 (or so)
Bell Operating Companies were grouped under the seven regional holding
companies.  Nynex was the regional company for New York Tel and New
England Tel; Bell Atlantic had the various C&Ps, NJ Bell, etc.; Pacific
Telesis had Pac Bell and some others; Ameritech had Illinois Bell,
Michigan Bell and a few others, and so on.

It was later that Nynex decided to absorb NYT and NET into a single
operating company, and similar things went on elsewhere.  Then some of
the big mergers started (e.g. SBC borging PacTel and Ameritech, for
instance; Qwest buying USWest, etc.)

/JBL

------------------------------

From: Herb Stein <herb@herbstein.com>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:36:24 -0600


Daniel W. Johnson <panoptes@iquest.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.57.8@telecom-digest.org:

> TELECOM Digest Editor added in message
> news:<telecom23.56.5@telecom-digest.org>:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess so, if you feel that exposing
>> yourself on national TV is 'normal' behavior. Although I personally
>> feel Michael is innocent in this latest affair, victimized by a very
>> noisy mother, I also think he is just as goofy as she is. I do not
>> watch much television, and certainly not the Super Bowl. Thanks for
>> reminding me why not. I did not see either the horse incident or the
>> instance of LaToya Jackson's indecent exposure, but I certainly am
>> reading a lot about it.  PAT]

> I haven't read anything about indecent exposure on the part of LaToya,
> just the incident with her younger sister Janet on the Super Bowl
> halftime show.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My bad ... I should have said 'Janet'
> instead of 'LaToya'.  PAT]

LaToya was in Playboy/Penthouse/Hustler/ or one of them a few years
ago. Of course, the reader of the magazine found the spread anything
but indecent.  :-)


Herb Stein
herb@herbstein.com

------------------------------

From: ken@nac.net (Ken Alper)
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: 5 Feb 2004 10:31:29 -0800


dold@FakedXCall.usenet.us.com wrote in message
news:<telecom23.53.3@telecom-digest.org>:

> I noticed that I have received some telemarketer calls that show an
> 800 number on caller ID, with the name of the survey or marketing
> firm.

I am VERY interested in any data like this. My firm has been trying to
do exactly this -- send an 800 number along with our name -- and we've
had absolutely no success doing so. If you can send along to me any of
the number/name combinations, I might be able to get in touch with
their telecom people and figure out how they're doing it.

--Ken

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 00:55:14 -0700
From: email@crazyhat.net


In message <<telecom23.54.5@telecom-digest.org>> Joseph
<JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom> did ramble:

> Believe it or not some people want a mobile phone that they can
> actually make and receive calls on.... easily.  It's going to be many
> years if never that cell phones supplant personal computers as a way
> to communicate data.

Here here.  Personally, all I really want out of a cellphone is to
make calls, receive calls, possibly a phonebook (names, numbers, and
nothing else), call timers, and a bluetooth interface.

Everything else should be handled on one of the several other
electronic devices I carry around with me, including the full
phonebook, web browsing, email, text messaging, photos, and whatever
other fetish is popular this week.

------------------------------

From: amishra@ilstu.edu (Mishra, Aishvarya)
Subject: Call for Papers: ICWIN 2004 (Wireless Networks)
Date: 4 Feb 2004 15:57:45 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com



                    CALL  FOR  PAPERS

	The 2004 International Multiconference in
	Computer Science and Computer Engineering

		(18 Joint Int'l Conferences)

	Monte Carlo Resort, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
		    June 21-24, 2004


Dear Colleagues:

You are invited to submit a draft paper (see instructions below). All
accepted papers will be published in the respective conference
proceedings.

The International Multiconference in Computer Science and Computer
Engineering is a major annual research event. It assembles a spectrum
of affiliated research conferences into a coordinated research meeting
held in a common place at a common time.  This model facilitates
communication among researchers in different fields of computer
science and computer engineering.  The last Multiconference attracted
over 1,650 computer science and engineering researchers from 78
countries. We expect to have over 2,000 attendees for this set of
conference.

One of the events of the 2004 conference (18 conferences) is:

2004 International Conference on Wireless Networks (ICWN'04)

All areas of wireless are welcomed. In particular, we are looking for
papers in the areas of security and routing of AD-HOC networks.

(a link to other conference's URL can be found at
http://www.world-academy-of-science.org)

Please regard this announcement as General Guidelines.  You are
requested to send your submission to session chair at the contact
address which appears below.

CONFERENCES CONTACT:

Mishra, Aishvary
Illinois State University
Tel (O): +1 309 438 8338
Fax (O): +1 309 438 5113
Tel (R): +1 309 862 3768
Mail: amishra@ilstu.edu
E-mail for paper submissions: ICWIN@lnotes.acs.ilstu.edu

SUBMISSION OF PAPERS:

Prospective authors are invited to submit three copies of their draft
paper (about 5 pages - single space, font size of 10 to 12) to
Aishvary, Mishra by the due date (who will be forwarding the papers to
respective conference chairs/committees).  E-mail submissions in MS
document or PDF formats are preferable (Fax submissions are also
acceptable.)

The length of the Camera-Ready papers (if accepted) will be limited to
7 (IEEE style) pages. Papers must not have been previously published
or currently submitted for publication elsewhere. The first page of
the draft paper should include: title of the paper, name, affiliation,
postal address, E-mail address, telephone number,& fax number for each
author.  The first page should also include the name of the author who
will be presenting the paper (if accepted) and a maximum of 5 keywords.

IMPORTANT DATES:

Feb. 21, 2004: Draft papers (about 5 pages) due
Mar. 22, 2004: Notification of acceptance
Apr. 21, 2004: Camera-ready papers & Pre-registration due.
Jun. 21-24, 2004: 2004 Int'l Multiconference in CS & CE

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TELECOM Digest     Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:13:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 59

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    US FCC to Begin Weighing Internet-Telephony Rules (Monty Solomon)
    Mac, AOL PC Users Allowed Video Chats (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Faked CallerID Info? (Nick Landsberg)
    Get Out Those Postage Stamps: No Internet Voting For Military (Burstein)
    GSM Gateway in the UK (Benm)
    Re: Unused 800 Number - Ending in 1000 - Can I Rent it Out? (Al Gillis)
    Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading away in U.S. (Rob)
    Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S. (Justin Time)
    New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject (M. Quinn)
    A Few Messages Mangled, Sorry (TELECOM Digest Editor)

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:00:35 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: US FCC to Begin Weighing Internet-Telephony Rules


WASHINGTON, Feb 5 (Reuters) - The Federal Communications Commission
said on Thursday it plans to begin determining what regulations, if
any, should apply to telephone calls that travel over the Internet.

The FCC said it will discuss a formal inquiry into the fast-growing
technology at its regularly scheduled meeting next week.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40456873

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:04:06 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Mac, AOL PC Users Allowed Video Chats


SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- Apple Computer Inc. released a new version of
its iChat software Thursday so Macintosh users can now do video chats
with America Online subscribers who have Windows-based PCs.

 - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40450261

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:30:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet



Ken Alper wrote:

> dold@FakedXCall.usenet.us.com wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.53.3@telecom-digest.org>:

>> I noticed that I have received some telemarketer calls that show an
>> 800 number on caller ID, with the name of the survey or marketing
>> firm.

> I am VERY interested in any data like this. My firm has been trying to
> do exactly this -- send an 800 number along with our name -- and we've
> had absolutely no success doing so. If you can send along to me any of
> the number/name combinations, I might be able to get in touch with
> their telecom people and figure out how they're doing it.

> --Ken

Caller Name is implemented as a separate service from Caller-ID,
although some providers may package them together.

Caller ID (number), I'm pretty sure, is still delivered as in-band
signalling by the originating switch.  If the called party does not
subscribe to CID, the terminating switch suppresses it.  (This
requires a database dip to see if the called party subscribes to
caller ID.  The database may be local to the terminating switch or may
be a network database, depending on implementation.)

Caller Name (CNAM) on the other hand, requires a database lookup in a
"network" (big) database.  If your number in the database does not
have an asociated name, no name will show up, even if the called party
subscribes to the service.

If the CNAM service is unbundled from CID, and the called party does
not subscribe to it, it will not be delivered, even if your company
name is in the database.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Get Out Those Postage Stamps. No Internet Voting For the Military
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 01:51:52 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


"The Pentagon has decided to scrap plans for an on-line Internet
voting system for U.S. military personnel and Americans living
abroad. The system had come under fire from experts who said it could
be vulnerable to computer attacks.

"The decision to cancel the computer voting project was made by Deputy
Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.

"Pentagon officials say he ordered the system scrapped because of an
inability to ensure the legitimacy of the votes that would be cast."

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=215A8EF4-FC2E-46DA-8F0B218EA14649D9

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

From: ben77m2000@yahoo.com (Benm)
Subject: GSM Gateway in the UK
Date: 6 Feb 2004 03:16:40 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Can anyone in the UK recommend a GSM Gateway and/or mobile calling
plan?  My business uses about 600 minutes a month on calls to mobile
networks.  At this moderately low level, it would take me about a year
to pay off the gateway I've had quoted (250 pounds).  The "any network
anytime" plans from the Orange and Vodafone that I've seen aren't very
impressive either.  Given that about 30% of my phone bill is calls to
mobile phones, there must be a better solution.

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Unused 800 Number - Ending in 1000 - Can I Rent it Out?
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 03:52:11 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Chris Barr <c-barr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.58.6@telecom-digest.org:

> We currently have an 800 number that won't be in active use for
> probably 2 years.  It's an attractive number, ending in 1000.

> Can this be leased or rented out to another company?

> In advance, thanks for any feedback.

> Chris Barr

Hi Chris,

You could probably have your toll-free provider change the number to
which that T-F goes to (that is, point your 800 xxx-1000 to the POTS
number furnished by your new "customer").  That would let your new
"customer" use the number but it would still be yours.  You'd get the
invoice, of course, and would be responsible for paying it.  And, in
turn, you'd have to generate an invoice to your "customer", adding 20%
or whatever for your trouble.

When it comes time for that relationship to end you could have your
t-f provider point the t-f number back to your POTS or DID number,
where there would be an intercepting recording for a month or two,
until the "customers" calls dried up and it would be safe for your
business to resume using the t-f number.

Good luck!

Al

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: 6 Feb 2004 04:24:47 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


>> As the U.S. wireless market grows, the cell phone is evolving into a
>> phone in name only as calling becomes almost secondary to a host of
>> other functions.

>> After years of trailing Japan and Western Europe, where cell phones
>> have long had color screens, e-mail, music, video games, cameras and
>> other accessories that make American cell phones look backward in
>> comparison, handset makers are finally pushing a new generation of
>> units on the domestic market that offer the full range of functions
>> available elsewhere.

> What the article fails to mention is that these gimmicks of color,
> polyphonic tones, etc. are just that gimmicks.  Color phones are many
> times useless outside as the screen gets washed out in bright light
> where a regular monochrome handset you can still see what's in the
> display.  Polyphonic ringtones may sound somewhat cool, but if you
> can't hear them in a noisy environment they are also useless.

> Believe it or not some people want a mobile phone that they can
> actually make and receive calls on.... easily.  It's going to be many
> years if never that cell phones supplant personal computers as a way
> to communicate data.

Going by the way mobile phone technology here in Western Europe and
over in Japan is advancing, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find
that mobile phones will have most, if not all, the facilities of a
standard PC or laptop in the not too distant future.  After all, the
vast majority of mobile phones over here already have web and email
access.

Personally, I'd much rather carry a palm-sized unit around than have
to lug (sorry, carry) a laptop with all the paraphenalia associated
with it  --  or even worse a briefcase with reams of paper.  At least
with a mobile palm-sized unit you can download directly from that
straight to your PC at home or at the office without having to worry
about finding a phone socket for your laptop, or the hassle of
connecting to your mobile and hoping that you're able to get a decent
signal.

Just my 2 pence-worth!

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: 6 Feb 2004 06:06:29 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Phil McKerracher <phil@mckerracher.org> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.57.10@telecom-digest.org>:

> Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:telecom23.56.8@telecom-digest.org:

> [Some quoting omitted, part of it erroneously attributed to me]

>> By the time you dig through your carry case to pull out the keyboard,
>> unfold it, attach the PDA -- and then find the device won't balance on
>> your knees, the meeting is over and you have no notes.  Your fancy
>> $500 PDA with built-in phone, is now as useful as a brick ...

> That's why no keyboard is actually available for mine. You either
> write on the screen as you would on paper, or record a voice memo
> (useful if only one hand is free). You can also take a picture with
> the camera ones. I've taken a picture of a train timetable and an
> information board with a digital camera to save transcribing the bits
> I want, for example.

>> ...  And who wants to hold one of those things up to your ear and
>> try to make a phone call?

> I don't find this a problem at all, the palm size is comfortable.

>> My Nokia 8260 still runs fine and does everything I need it to do, and
>> my portfolio with notepad takes all the notes I need along with
>> holding much more information than any PDA.

>> Rodgers Platt

> Surely you don't really mean the "holding much more information" bit?
> I currently have a couple of e-books in my xda, taking up much less
> physical space than paper would. They can also be read in a dark
> bedroom or plane without disturbing other people.

> Paper notes are much harder to back up, search or share. I don't see
> any advantage at all, except that there's no battery to go flat.

> Phil McKerracher
> www.mckerracher.org

Have you ever tried to sketch out a diagram about how a system will
interface with another, or when your customer comes up with an idea
for a product or a modification to one you already have on a PDA --
even one that "recognizes" handwriting?

Keeping notes in a diary may make them "more difficult" to share, but
the support systems available are much more robust, and my day timer
notebook will never die because the battery went flat.


Rodgers Platt

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:19:41 -0500
From: Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
Organization: Booz Allen Hamilton
Subject: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject


A few weeks back in the long thread on spoofed caller ID, someone
mentioned a recently enacted federal law that requires telemarketers
to deliver a caller ID number (whether accurate or not).

Here in Nothern VA, we have been using Verizon's Anonymous Call
Reject, which does not allow "out of area" numbers to even ring the
phone unless the caller provides some additional information (or
enters a PIN); we pay $7.50 per month or so for this.

I think it was about this time that I started to notice a significant
increase in telemarketing calls which now display the number and the
name, although sometimes the name says "out of area" or "not
available" (or even "ohio"), which of course ACR doesn't look at -- as
long as they deliver a number, however inaccurate, ACR lets the call
through. The net result is that our dinner and evening hours are now
once again filled with ringing phones.  Before this, there was a fair
chance that an incoming call was from someone we wanted to hear from,
so we'd pick up after looking at caller ID; now we have to deal with
at least double or triple the number of calls.

Has anyone else noticed this phenomenom? I guess for the small number
of folks with ACR it's a step backward, even though it may be an
improvement for the majority.  I'm wondering what will happen if I
cancel ACR -- even more calls I suppose.


Regards,

Mike Quinn
Springfield VA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That was a very big hassle I had with
SBC (Southwestern Bell Tel) when they had my phone service. They
claimed (the chairman's office, yet, when I appealed) that they had
met all requirements to subscribers of anonymous call blocking and
last call reject 'as long as the calling party supplies some number.'
No matter if it was all zeros, if the name was bogus or missing, etc.
SBC still wanted the couple bucks per month for providing 'anonymous
call rejection'. They claimed 'the call was not anonymous, we did give
you the number and often times the name.' Yet, even though the call
was not 'anonymous' by telco's definition, they still were not able to
block future calls from the same 'number'. 

I think what you will find, Michael, is that telco makes too much
money from telemarketers to abuse them too badly. Telco turns a blind
eye to the way they rig their phone systems (with skimpy or non-
existent details of ID) because the telemarketers would suffer from it.
PAT] 

------------------------------

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    Draft - Recommendation for Electronic Authentication (Monty Solomon)
    Nextel Testing Wireless Broadband Service; Market Trial (Monty Solomon)
    Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, Anonymous Call Reject (J Wineburg)
    Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, Anonymous Call Reject (fakeaddress)
    VoIP Gateway (Andrew Bell)
    Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S. (Bob Goudreau)
    Re: "No Internet Voting" (Robert Pierce)
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:57:00 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: DRAFT - Recommendation for Electronic Authentication


http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts.html

DRAFT Special Publication 800-63, Recommendation for 
Electronic Authentication.

NIST has completed the draft NIST Special Publication 800-63, 
Recommendation for Electronic Authentication. E-authentication is the 
remote authentication of individual people over a network for the 
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an authentication error. Special Publication 800-63 states specific 
technical requirements for each of the four levels of assurance in 
the following areas: identity proofing and registration, tokens, 
remote authentication mechanisms and assertion mechanisms. NIST 
requests comments on the draft document by March 15, 2004.

http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/draft-sp800-63.pdf

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:49:32 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Nextel Testing Wireless Broadband Service; Market Trial


     Nextel Testing Wireless Broadband Service; Market Trial in
     Raleigh-Durham, N.C. to Evaluate Flarion's FLASH-OFDM Technology,
     Service Offering and Market Demand
     - Feb 6, 2004 03:20 PM (BusinessWire)

RESTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 6, 2004--

    Cisco Systems, Nortel Networks and IBM Employees to Trial Service

Cisco Systems and Nortel Networks to Provide Infrastructure
Support and Amdocs to Supply Customer Care and Billing Platform

Nextel(R) Communications Inc. (NASDAQ:NXTL) announced today that
it will trial a wireless broadband service in the Raleigh-Durham, N.C.
market using Flarion Technologies' FLASH-OFDM(R) technology. The trial
will begin later this month and will offer participants highly secure,
high-speed, IP-based broadband access with the full mobility of
wireless service.

Participants in the trial will include employees from select
Nextel enterprise customers, including Cisco Systems, Inc.
(NASDAQ:CSCO), Nortel Networks (NYSE/TSX:NT) and IBM (NYSE:IBM). They
will be able to take full advantage of average downlink speeds of up
to 1.5 megabits per second (mbps) with burst rates of up to 3.0 mbps,
making the service comparable to DSL and cable broadband services. The
service will be up to 50 times faster than dial-up connections with
the added benefit of being untethered.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40470931

------------------------------

From: Wineburgh, Joe <Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com>
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:05:40 -0500 


You don't say if you're signed up for the national do-not-call
registry. I recommend signing up if you haven't already.

I signed up for the national DNCR last August and in January '04
dropped my LEC's (Sprint) version of the Anon Call Reject
service. Since we dropped ACR, we got all of two calls -- and only
from existing business relationships at that! (ironically Sprint and I
think DirecTV) They were both just trying to sell more crap I don't
need, so I asked them to put us on their (local/company's) do not call
list and that was that. I believe it's been about a month since we
have gotten any sales calls.

One further note -- I was actually kinda pissed when Sprint also
blocked calls that came in with no name (both our cell phones at the
time, but knowing of your experiences I'd say it was probably a 'good
thing'!


YMMV

#JOE

------------------------------

From: <fakeaddress@fakedomain.com>
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:42:21 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


Two thoughts here:

1. The DNC list works well for me.  I usually don't see more than one
telemarketer every month or so.  See https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx

2. If the telco's were interested in enforcing the DNC, they'd add a
new CLASS service like malicious call trace that captures the caller
ID _and_ ANI.  Typing the *xx code could report these numbers to the
FTC, with the time and your phone number so your complaint can be more
easily traced.  That is, if the phone companies really wanted to help
enforce the anti-telemarketer regs.

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:19:41 -0500, Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
wrote:

> A few weeks back in the long thread on spoofed caller ID, someone
> mentioned a recently enacted federal law that requires telemarketers
> to deliver a caller ID number (whether accurate or not).

> Here in Nothern VA, we have been using Verizon's Anonymous Call
> Reject, which does not allow "out of area" numbers to even ring the
> phone unless the caller provides some additional information (or
> enters a PIN); we pay $7.50 per month or so for this.

> I think it was about this time that I started to notice a significant
> increase in telemarketing calls which now display the number and the
> name, although sometimes the name says "out of area" or "not
> available" (or even "ohio"), which of course ACR doesn't look at -- as
> long as they deliver a number, however inaccurate, ACR lets the call
> through. The net result is that our dinner and evening hours are now
> once again filled with ringing phones.  Before this, there was a fair
> chance that an incoming call was from someone we wanted to hear from,
> so we'd pick up after looking at caller ID; now we have to deal with
> at least double or triple the number of calls.

> Has anyone else noticed this phenomenom? I guess for the small number
> of folks with ACR it's a step backward, even though it may be an
> improvement for the majority.  I'm wondering what will happen if I
> cancel ACR -- even more calls I suppose.

> Regards,

> Mike Quinn
> Springfield VA

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That was a very big hassle I had with
> SBC (Southwestern Bell Tel) when they had my phone service. They
> claimed (the chairman's office, yet, when I appealed) that they had
> met all requirements to subscribers of anonymous call blocking and
> last call reject 'as long as the calling party supplies some number.'
> No matter if it was all zeros, if the name was bogus or missing, etc.
> SBC still wanted the couple bucks per month for providing 'anonymous
> call rejection'. They claimed 'the call was not anonymous, we did give
> you the number and often times the name.' Yet, even though the call
> was not 'anonymous' by telco's definition, they still were not able to
> block future calls from the same 'number'. 

> I think what you will find, Michael, is that telco makes too much
> money from telemarketers to abuse them too badly. Telco turns a blind
> eye to the way they rig their phone systems (with skimpy or non-
> existent details of ID) because the telemarketers would suffer from it.
> PAT] 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There *is* a CLASS service such as you
describe. *57 does that job; dial *57 during a conversation (flash the
hook, fresh dialtone, *57, then flash again to go back to the
conversation) or immediatly following disconnection, and telco records
the details regardless of any privacy flags (*67, etc) being set and 
forwards the details to police. **They will NOT tell you the details. 
You have to get the details from the police.** Police will generally
only give you details if you agree _in writing first_ to prosecute on
the results. Telco will not serve as your private detective agency,
etc. Communication privacy laws prohibit telco from working with you
directly. Getting the police to actually do something about the matter
is a different thing. Many police believe it is a civil matter, and 
they are not permitted to get involved in civil matters. Police also
usually have a busy schedule and phone harassment is not a big issue,
especially when there is a telemarketer causing you some minor grief. 

Oh, and *57 is not an inexpensive CLASS service. Typically, telco gets
eight to ten dollars for *each instance* of its use. The recorded 
message they play immediatly following the capture of the details
tells you about this charge, and provides an 800 number at the 'call
annoyance bureau' to be used to follow up with telco and police. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Andrew Bell <andrewb314@yahoo.com>
Subject: VoIP Gateway
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:36:15 -0500 


I need to borrow some experience from the VoIP hobbyists out there.

I'm currently toying with the idea of creating an OPX (off premise
extension) using VoIP.  What I want to do is hang a (preferrably Linux
based) PC on the office network, and plug it into an analog extension
from the PBX.  Then I want to go home, VPN into the network, and use
some sort of softphone to get PBX dialtone.  More importantly, I also
want to be able to answer calls at home originating from the PBX.

I know there a lots of commercial offerings to do this, but I'm hoping
to get away with just the cost of an FXO card for a proof of concept
right now.

Has anyone here done something like this already?


Andrew


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well you can now get softphone software
 from the Vonage people. That's one of their newer offerings, since 
they have expanded to have a POP in almost every area code (even here
in rural s.e. Kansas!), and 800 numbers. You can also get softphone 
service if desired. Ask me for an e-coupon for a month of free service
whenever you are ready to try it out.    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 14:21:44 -0500
From: BobGoudreau@withheld at users request
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.


[Please obcure my email address.  Thank you.]

Rodgers Platt wrote:
 
> Keeping notes in a diary may make them "more difficult" to share, but
> the support systems available are much more robust, and my day timer
> notebook will never die because the battery went flat.

On the other hand, one aspect of the paper diary support system is
painfully inadequate: backup.  My friend's wife painfully discovered
this last year when her purse (including her daytimer) was stolen from
her car and never recovered.  Tens of thousands of bytes of
hand-written data were lost forever.  This loss finally persuaded her
to emulate her husband's example and get a PDA, which can be easily
(and wirelessly) synced with his office computer to provide a backup
copy.  Even if the device is lost or destroyed, a replacement can
quickly be purchased and loaded with all the backed-up data, which
will be no more than a day or two out of date.


Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

------------------------------

From: Robert Pierce <robert.pierce@withheld at user's request>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:36:46 -0500 


Pat, remove my e-mail address, please.

In "Get Out Those Postage Stamps: No Internet Voting For Military
(Burstein)" Danny Burstein wrote:

> "The Pentagon has decided to scrap plans for an on-line Internet
> voting system for U.S. military personnel and Americans living
> abroad. The system had come under fire from experts who said it could
> be vulnerable to computer attacks.

> "The decision to cancel the computer voting project was made by Deputy
> Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.

> "Pentagon officials say he ordered the system scrapped because of an
> inability to ensure the legitimacy of the votes that would be cast."

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=215A8EF4-FC2E-46DA-8F0B218EA1464
9D9

This is _good_ news.  Any regular reader of comp.risks knows that
computer-based voting schemes are fraught with problems of
accountability and security.  Adding an internet connection only
compounds the problems.

During my stint in Uncle Sam's service I voted with absentee ballots
many times.  It was not a hardship.

I, personally, would have no confidence in an unaccountable system
sending voting information via the insecure internet.

The military made the right decision.


Rob Pierce

Pat, remove my e-mail address, please.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But I think we are going to get to the
point where electronic voting becomes a necessity before too long, and
the military with 'absentee ballots' would provide a smaller and more
easily controlled sample as the bugs are worked out of it. And I
wonder also if anyone has considered at least one or two parallel
votes so results can be compared for accuracy: that is, the traditional
paper vote (to be the authoritative vote as needed) and an electronic
vote for comparison purposes once or twice. I don't know of any large
corporation back in the 1960-70's as computers were taking over every-
thing which did not run in parallel for at least a month or two for
just that reason. I know telco and Amoco credit card did that.  PAT]

------------------------------

Reply-To: O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e*3@cox.net>
From: O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e*3@cox.net>
Subject: Question About 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/Antenna
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 12:39:25 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


I have a question about adding a wireless antenna or signal booster to my
home network.

My current setup is I have a Linksys WRT54G wireless router which
supports B and G infrastructure.  I have a 802.11b Wireless PCI card
in my PC.  In my condo, I can verify that the wireless portion of the
network between the wireless router and my PC are functioning.  I then
take my PC to another floor in my building, and I get little to no
signal.  I would like to add either a signal booster and/or an antenna
to make my network functional.

 From the reading that I have done, I can't determine where the
antenna needs to be installed if I go this route.  Is it installed on
the PCI portion of the network, or the router portion of the network.
As the router TX's and RX's, is the problem with the low transmission
power from the router and therefore I need a wireless antenna on the
PC, or is the problem the low transmission power from the PCI card to
the router upstairs?  I can't figure out which hardware I need to make
this functional.

Please contact me directly at okorkie3@cox.net (remove the *)

Thanks, 

Owen

------------------------------

From: javi@wizardes.com (Javier Gonzalez Ferreyra)
Subject: Panasonic 616 Toll Restriction
Date: 6 Feb 2004 14:48:35 -0800
Organization: http://groups.goggle.com


The manual says that I've to dial * to complete the 3 digit code for
toll restriction, but nothing appears on the LCD and I can not store
the two digit code. How can I fix it? I can program everything else
but not toll restriction which is the most improtant for me ... please
help.  

Thanks.

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    Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users (Wesrock@aol.com)
    Vonage Motorola VT1000 Box (John Schmerold)
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From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:36:54 EST
Subject: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users


Pat,

      I'm surprised no one has made mention of this in Telecom Digest. 
Forwarded from another list.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com


------------------------------------------------------------------

Warning letters trouble broadband subscribers
Comcast targets heavy users, but some say limits aren't clear

Associated Press

SAN JOSE, Calif.  By all accounts, George Nussbaum demands a lot
from his Internet connection. He streams video and transfers large
files from his office. His family downloads movie trailers, and his
stepson listens to and buys music online.

Mr. Nussbaum subscribes to his cable TV provider's high-speed Internet
service, which, he thought, was built for such high-bandwidth
activities. Then, in November, he got a letter from the provider,
Comcast Corp., ordering him to dial down his usage or face service
termination.

Until last summer, the service was advertised as "unlimited."  But
Comcast, citing its "acceptable use" policy, is cracking down on the
heaviest users on the premise that their consumption could degrade
their neighbors' service.

A number of broadband providers are beginning to offer different
tiers of service, charging high-volume users more. Some, particularly
wireless providers, charge extra for heavy use.

Comcast, critics say, is trying to impose limits without telling
consumers that the service is limited.

Looking for answers

Mr. Nussbaum, who had no idea how many gigabytes he used, was willing
to cut back. He called to find out by how much, but customer service
had no answer. Then he asked how much he used. Again, Comcast
wouldn't provide a number.

Last month, Mr. Nussbaum got a second letter threatening suspension
or termination, so he decided to sign up for a digital subscriber
line offered by his phone company, Verizon Communications.

"How am I supposed to know what my limits are?" said Mr. Nussbaum, an
engineer from Plaistow, N.H. "It was actually kind of ridiculous."

'Changing the rules'

"They have the right to control their service and offer different
services to different people," said David Willis, an analyst at the
Meta Group. "The problem is you can't keep changing the rules all the
time."

Most broadband companies have vague policies, but Comcast's appear to
be the most aggressively enforced. It provides no tools for monitoring
bandwidth and does not give any specific guidance.

Comcast says the people who receive the warning letters typically
consume 100 times more than the average user.

"The total number of customers who have had their service disconnected
is well below one one-hundredth of 1 percent of our overall Internet
customer base," said spokeswoman Dana Ryan, reading from a prepared
statement.

But the nation's largest cable company refused to reveal the average
consumption among its 4.8 million high-speed Internet subscribers.
Ms. Ryan also would not say how many received warnings or exactly how
many have had their accounts suspended or terminated.  Excessive use
is a problem for Comcast and other providers because they must predict
bandwidth use and buy the capacity. If too much is consumed, it can
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:20:23 -0600
From: John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
Subject: Vonage Motorola VT1000 Box


The 1+ dialing is a Vonage deal killer for me.  I tried a couple of 
dialers behind the Cisco boxes Vonage used to use -- they didn't work.

Anyone know if there is a dialer compatible with the VT1000 to
automatically insert the 1 needed with Vonage?

------------------------------

From: littleboyblu87@yahoo.com (Mike)
Subject: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: 6 Feb 2004 22:39:43 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I registered on that Do Not Call list back when it first came out.
When it went into affect we stopped receiving all those annoying
telemarketing phone calls. But ever since that new law came out that
requires telemarketers to display info on the caller id, we've been
getting about 3 "out of area" calls everyday at the same times they
used to call.

Does anyone know what that's all about? It's really annoying.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It goes to show that the telemarketers
are keeping up with the times. Telemarketers are not going to be
easily thwarted. :)  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Mary@bentmetal.biz
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 05:35:43 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Your feature sounds more like Privacy Manager than Anonymous Call
Rejection.

Michael Quinn wrote:

> A few weeks back in the long thread on spoofed caller ID, someone
> mentioned a recently enacted federal law that requires telemarketers
> to deliver a caller ID number (whether accurate or not).

> Here in Nothern VA, we have been using Verizon's Anonymous Call
> Reject, which does not allow "out of area" numbers to even ring the
> phone unless the caller provides some additional information (or
> enters a PIN); we pay $7.50 per month or so for this.

> I think it was about this time that I started to notice a significant
> increase in telemarketing calls which now display the number and the
> name, although sometimes the name says "out of area" or "not
> available" (or even "ohio"), which of course ACR doesn't look at -- as
> long as they deliver a number, however inaccurate, ACR lets the call
> through. The net result is that our dinner and evening hours are now
> once again filled with ringing phones.  Before this, there was a fair
> chance that an incoming call was from someone we wanted to hear from,
> so we'd pick up after looking at caller ID; now we have to deal with
> at least double or triple the number of calls.

> Has anyone else noticed this phenomenom? I guess for the small number
> of folks with ACR it's a step backward, even though it may be an
> improvement for the majority.  I'm wondering what will happen if I
> cancel ACR -- even more calls I suppose.

> Regards,

> Mike Quinn
> Springfield VA

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That was a very big hassle I had with
> SBC (Southwestern Bell Tel) when they had my phone service. They
> claimed (the chairman's office, yet, when I appealed) that they had
> met all requirements to subscribers of anonymous call blocking and
> last call reject 'as long as the calling party supplies some number.'
> No matter if it was all zeros, if the name was bogus or missing, etc.
> SBC still wanted the couple bucks per month for providing 'anonymous
> call rejection'. They claimed 'the call was not anonymous, we did give
> you the number and often times the name.' Yet, even though the call
> was not 'anonymous' by telco's definition, they still were not able to
> block future calls from the same 'number'.

> I think what you will find, Michael, is that telco makes too much
> money from telemarketers to abuse them too badly. Telco turns a blind
> eye to the way they rig their phone systems (with skimpy or non-
> existent details of ID) because the telemarketers would suffer from it.
> PAT]

------------------------------

From: Dink <winkdink@newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 18:23:22 -0600
Organization: Frijoles Refritos


On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:19:41 -0500, Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com> wrote:

> A few weeks back in the long thread on spoofed caller ID, someone
> mentioned a recently enacted federal law that requires telemarketers
> to deliver a caller ID number (whether accurate or not).

> Here in Nothern VA, we have been using Verizon's Anonymous Call
> Reject, which does not allow "out of area" numbers to even ring the
> phone unless the caller provides some additional information (or
> enters a PIN); we pay $7.50 per month or so for this.

> I think it was about this time that I started to notice a significant
> increase in telemarketing calls which now display the number and the
> name, although sometimes the name says "out of area" or "not
> available" (or even "ohio"), which of course ACR doesn't look at -- as
> long as they deliver a number, however inaccurate, ACR lets the call
> through. The net result is that our dinner and evening hours are now
> once again filled with ringing phones.  Before this, there was a fair
> chance that an incoming call was from someone we wanted to hear from,
> so we'd pick up after looking at caller ID; now we have to deal with
> at least double or triple the number of calls.

> Has anyone else noticed this phenomenom? I guess for the small number
> of folks with ACR it's a step backward, even though it may be an
> improvement for the majority.  I'm wondering what will happen if I
> cancel ACR -- even more calls I suppose.

> Regards,

> Mike Quinn
> Springfield VA

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That was a very big hassle I had with
> SBC (Southwestern Bell Tel) when they had my phone service. They
> claimed (the chairman's office, yet, when I appealed) that they had
> met all requirements to subscribers of anonymous call blocking and
> last call reject 'as long as the calling party supplies some number.'
> No matter if it was all zeros, if the name was bogus or missing, etc.
> SBC still wanted the couple bucks per month for providing 'anonymous
> call rejection'. They claimed 'the call was not anonymous, we did give
> you the number and often times the name.' Yet, even though the call
> was not 'anonymous' by telco's definition, they still were not able to
> block future calls from the same 'number'. 

> I think what you will find, Michael, is that telco makes too much
> money from telemarketers to abuse them too badly. Telco turns a blind
> eye to the way they rig their phone systems (with skimpy or non-
> existent details of ID) because the telemarketers would suffer from it.
> PAT] 

 From a posting I made in another newsgroup on Jan. 29th:

  Subject: US: Telemarketers Unmasked
  From: Dink <me2@privacy.net>
  Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 05:58:10 -0600

 From today, telemarketer calls are required to display information on
caller ID displays. Such calls previously showed on Caller ID as "out
of area."  Now the name displayed by Caller ID must be either the
company trying to make a sale or the firm making the call.

The display must also include a phone number that consumers can call
during regular business hours to ask the company to place their number
on the company's internal do not call list.

Dink

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Panasonic 616 Toll Restriction
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 21:34:38 -0500
Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America


On 6 Feb 2004 14:48:35 -0800, javi@wizardes.com (Javier Gonzalez
Ferreyra) wrote:

> The manual says that I've to dial * to complete the 3 digit code for
> toll restriction, but nothing appears on the LCD and I can not store
> the two digit code. How can I fix it? I can program everything else
> but not toll restriction which is the most improtant for me ... please
> help.  

On the bottom of the KSU is a silver tag.  Read it.  Is there a 3 in a
circle on it?  Was it made in Great Britain?  Is it a 616-D?

The software is different for each release.

Carl Navarro

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 00:21:29 -0600
From: Ron Kritzman <ron@dbOnayAmspaYmasters.com>
Subject: Re: VoIP Gateway


Andrew Bell wrote:

> I know there a lots of commercial offerings to do this, but I'm hoping
> to get away with just the cost of an FXO card for a proof of concept
> right now.

> Has anyone here done something like this already?

  Have you looked into Asterisk?  Its an Open Source, Linux based PBX
with VOIP capability built right in.


Ron

------------------------------

From: Gail M. Hall <gmhall@apk.net>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:25:29 -0500
Reply-To: gmhall@apk.net


On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:36:24 -0600, in comp.dcom.telecom message
<telecom23.58.12@telecom-digest.org>, Herb Stein <herb@herbstein.com>
wrote:

> Daniel W. Johnson <panoptes@iquest.net> wrote in message
> news:telecom23.57.8@telecom-digest.org:

>> TELECOM Digest Editor added in message
>> news:<telecom23.56.5@telecom-digest.org>:

>>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess so, if you feel that exposing
>>> yourself on national TV is 'normal' behavior. 

What I don't understand is the part of the "exposure" that really
bothered me, and that is the appearance of grabbing the girl's clothes
off of her.  Grabbing and groping against her will is just a lower
form of imposition and the type of thinking that leads to rape.

This sort of thing glorifies abusing other people.

As for the appropriateness or not, there are times and places for
different activities.  Forcing adult type material during GP times is
inconsiderate and crude.  This is just another form of "in-your-face"
stuff that telemarketers and spammers do.  They are going to force you
to see it whether or not you want to.  If a person *wants* to see that
stuff, they should be able to go to the so-called adult channels and
see it.  But don't intrude on general TV channels during prime time
when our kids are likely to see it.  Don't teach our kids that
grabbing a girls clothes off her is OK or funny!


>> I haven't read anything about indecent exposure on the part of LaToya,
>> just the incident with her younger sister Janet on the Super Bowl
>> halftime show.

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My bad ... I should have said 'Janet'
>> instead of 'LaToya'.  PAT]

> LaToya was in Playboy/Penthouse/Hustler/ or one of them a few years
> ago. Of course, the reader of the magazine found the spread anything
> but indecent.  :-)

> Herb Stein
> herb@herbstein.com

Apparently the one whose pictures were published in the magazine chose
to expose herself in an appropriate place -- in a magazine that
specializes in that sort of thing.  People who don't want to see that
can choose not to buy the magazines.

People who are watching a football game with their kids probably don't
want to see that kind of thing.

Also, it's more likely that the magazine pictures show her posing in
an "alluring" position, VOLUNTARILY, not being shown as being forced
against her will.  I didn't see the pictures, so I am just guessing
about that.

At any rate, they are not showing this on national TV on a program
that is not labeled as R or X.

BTW, all the repeats of the Justin and Janet scene on all the news
shows demonstrates how hypicritical so many people in this country
are.  If it's all that bad, they shouldn't be showing it over and over
and over and over and ...


Gail in NE Ohio USA


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: According to the radio news today, a
lady in California (I think) has filed a class action lawsuit on this
incident. She named as the members of the Class 'anyone who watched
the Stupid Bowl and saw the incident'.  I wonder how much will be
asked in damages for each member of the Class for the offense done to
their eyes? The same radio news said that the network is also rather
'livid' about the incident and was quoted as saying "if the FCC sticks
it to us with a fine, we most assuredly will sue Jackson to recover
the amount of the fine imposed on us." And apparently at least one of
the major advertisers on the Stupid Bowl is now stalling on paying
their advertising bill, on the premise they did not intend to sponsor
an 'X-rated production.'  I think we will hear more about this affair
for a long time.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Call Centres
Date: 7 Feb 2004 03:03:52 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Does anyone know what the situation is in the US/Canada as far as call
centres being transferred abroad is like?

It's *BIG* news over here at the moment, with many companies, such as
insurance companies, telco's (including BT), some 118 Directory
Assistance companies,  National Rail Enquiries, and AOL, opening up
call centres in India, primarily Kolkutt and Mumbai.  Basically
they're *MUCH* cheaper to run and operate over there than call centres
here in the UK, but that's at the expense of job losses as well.  At
the moment they're being used as overflow for the call centres here 
 --  but as I say, that's at the moment.

BTW, the reason I know that AOL have opened a centre in India is
because I had to call them a few weeks ago, only for my call to be
answered (eventually) by a guy with a very strong Indian accent -- you
don't hear Indian accents in Waterford, Ireland, where AOL have their
main European office!

TIA!

Rob

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:05:59 EST
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"


In a message dated Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:36:46 -0500 TELECOM Digest
Editor noted in response to Robert Pierce's message: 

> I don't know of any large corporation back in the 1960-70's as
> computers were taking over everything which did not run in
> parallel for at least a month or two for just that reason. I know
> telco and Amoco credit card did that.  PAT]

       This does not seem to be typical of government, state, local,
etc.  In Oklahoma there have been at least three cases in the last few
years where this apparently not even considered and the new system was
supposed to run straight out of the box.  One was a combined system
for state government, which took six weeks or so to get where it would
even issue pay checks to state employees ... another was the Oklahoma
City school district which did similarly and employee pay checks were
delayed for a number of days, and payments to vendors for many weeks,
to the extent that some vendors cut them off, and another case
involving Oklahoma County payrolls.

       Probably much of the other data on those systems, some of which
might be quite important for continuing operations, would be similarly
screwed up.

       This is probably the norm for most states all over the country.
Didn't the IRS or SSA have a similar screwup that delayed tax refunds
or SSA payments for several days?

       From my experience with Southwestern Bell, and its insistence
on always running parallel systems, sometimes for months, before being
satisfied the new system is working right and switching over to it for
real, the first one (state payrolls and other information) of those
struck me as feckless.  But then the others came along and it would
appear governmental agencies, at least, don't take such things
seriously.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Even if the software worked perfectly
out of the box -- not impossible, but unlikely if the software is
custom built as much of it is -- there is still the hassle of getting
the database correctly built the first time around. 

Does anyone here besides me remember when VISA (when it was known as
BankAmericard and was the 'local' credit card program of Bank of
America in San Francisco) decided to put it all on computers (yes,
there was a time when Visa -- as it is known now -- was totally
manual) and make it a national system of credit cards through various
banks?  Around 1960 or so, BankAmericard went national but they kept
that trade name for a few more years before becoming Visa.  Ooooh, did
all the banks get hit with **severe** fraud as a result!  First
National Bank of Chicago alone got hit with about 30 million dollars
in fraud over a five or six year period. The way the banks built their
databases for BankAmericard cards was to just take every account in 
their bank and put them on the database. Then they dumped all those
little plastic cards in the postal mail, including accounts opened for
tiny babies at the bank, trust fund and escrow accounts, estates of 
dead people, etc. I suppose about a third of the cards never reached
their rightful owners, and maybe half of the remainder were innaprop-
riatly issued to dead people with estates, babies and litle children,
etc. 

Really, such an approach is the only sensible way to build a national
database (of voters, for instance or credit card account holders). 
Bottom line is what they go by. I guess they felt it would cost less
money to (in effect) throw all the plastics in the air, and weed out
the deadbeats and fraud as it happened than to go to the expense of
running bureaus on everyone who applied, if they ever did. But when
Bank of America and then the national association they started made an
attempt to build a national database of customers it wound up costing
them plenty. Ditto with Sears, when they started 'Discover Card', it
was not without a lot of frustration and expense in constructing the
database. Sears had to eat about forty million in fraud before the
Discover card was totally up and running. 

And with the latest movement to totally computerize the process of 
voting, I suspect the same thing will happen. 'Experts' will decide
how far (and with how much expense) they want to go to 'purify' the
results. No one ever said there would never be fraud in an election;
only that the goal was to keep a reasonable ratio between fraud and
administrative costs. You can always put FBI and similar in charge
of punishing fraud as it is caught. PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley)
Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:19:17 GMT


> But I think we are going to get to the point where electronic voting
> becomes a necessity before too long,

What could possibly be necessary about it?

You know all that spam you get in your electronic mailbox? You know
how you *don't* have a freightcar full of advertising circulars and
come-ons in your postal mail box every day? That's because electrons
can be cheaply and easily arranged into unlimited patterns at almost
no expense. Paper,' printing, and postage, on the other hand requires
time, energy, and money to manipulate.

All electronic voting will do is make manipulating elections as cheap
and easy as sending spam. No thanks. (I'm still fighting a hopeless
campaign to get Palm Beach County to sell the stupid touch-screen
machines they just bought to Iraq or someplace and buy scanners
instead where real voters fill out real ballots which can be touched
and looked at, and would at least put someone to a great deal more
effort to fake than numbers that exist only in a computer that the
same people who designed butterfly ballots tell us are foolproof :-).


==>> The *Best* political site <URL:http://www.vote-smart.org/>
==>> email: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net icbm: Delray Beach, FL |
<URL:http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley> Free Software and Politics

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Responding to 'What could possibly be
necessary about (electronic voting)'? Well, please take the advice of
someone who has grown up in an *entirely non-computerized* world to an
almost entirely computerized one. There is very little you can do
*without computers* that can't be done better *with computers*,
including detecting fraud and other crimes. Please accept this 
rephrasing of your question: What could possibly be better about paper
ballots which take a long time to tabulate and confirm?  Did you know
that the election held on the first Tuesday after the second Monday
in November will only have projected results the next day?  It only
becomes *official* a month or so later when it has been certified by
(in Chicago at least) the Board of Election Commissioners. That is
after they have weeded out tons of fraud, illegible ballots, recounted
the ballots at least once or twice, etc. How could computers possibly
do worse? The fact that a little bit of *new style fraud* enters the
picture in the process of purifying and expediting the results
otherwise shouldn't matter. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 22:17:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: A How-To Guide for Hackers


By Michelle Delio

Already bored with all the presents you got for the holidays? Hack 
them into new-and-improved presents.

Got piles of now-outdated gifts from past festive occasions carefully 
stashed away because you might need the parts someday? Hack them, too.

Don't know how to hack or need some inspiration? Get yourself a copy 
of Hardware Hacking: Have Fun While Voiding Your Warranty. It has 576 
pages of detailed instructions that will show you how to re-engineer 
almost every inanimate object in your home or office.


http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,62089,00.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 23:05:56 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo-Nielsen Deal Could Aid Advertisers


By Sam Diaz, Knight Ridder, 2/6/2004

TiVo and Nielsen Media Research, the television ratings company,
announced a deal Wednesday in which TiVo will provide a breakdown of
how its customers are using their digital video recorders.

That means Nielsen will find out whether viewers are watching 
"American Idol" live or watching it a day later and, more 
importantly, which commercials they're skipping and which were 
watched a second time.


http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2004/02/06/tivo_nielsen_deal_could_aid_advertisers/

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From: Zebra <zebra@optonline.dot.net>
Subject: IDT America Unlimited - Pros/Cons?
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:18:35 -0500


IDT America Unlimited offers the following for $39.95 ($40) a month:

Unlimited Local 
-  Unlimited Regional 
-  Unlimited Long Distance 
-  Popular Calling Features 
  - Caller ID 
  - Call Waiting with Name 
  - 3-Way Calling 
  - Speed Dial (8 Numbers) 

http://www.idt.net/products/unlimited/

Has anyone tried this service?  Can you share your experiences?  Is
this company reliable?  Do your calls go through?  Is it a nightmare?

AT&T wants $55 for the basically same offering, and Verzion wants $60.

Before I take the plunge, I would love to get some feedback --
searching the newsgroups has not found anything pro or con on this
offering.

Thanks in advance from NY.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Our local telco here in Independence,
KS called 'Prairie Stream Communications' offers basically the same
package for $29.95 per month. The main difference is instead of
'unlimited regional' and 'unlimited long distance' they have those
two merged into 'long distance'. In addition to unlimited local,
Prairie Stream allows 100 minutes (an hour plus 20 minutes) of
'long distance' in the package. Additional minutes are two cents 
each.  Does IDT allow you to port or keep your local number?  Is this
the same IDT that used to do TV commercials saying long distance is
only five cents per minute if you dialed their 1010 code?  PAT]

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:05:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Virus Underground


By CLIVE THOMPSON

This is how easy it has become.

Mario stubs out his cigarette and sits down at the desk in his 
bedroom. He pops into his laptop the CD of Iron Maiden's "Number of 
the Beast," his latest favorite album. "I really like it," he 
says, "My girlfriend bought it for me." He gestures to the 
15-year-old girl with straight dark hair lounging on his neatly made 
bed, and she throws back a shy smile. Mario, 16, is a 
secondary-school student in a small town in the foothills of southern 
Austria. (He didn't want me to use his last name.) His shiny 
shoulder-length hair covers half his face and his sleepy green eyes, 
making him look like a very young, languid Mick Jagger. On his wall 
he has an enormous poster of Anna Kournikova -- which, he admits 
sheepishly, his girlfriend is not thrilled about. Downstairs, his 
mother is cleaning up after dinner. She isn't thrilled these days, 
either. But what bothers her isn't Mario's poster. It's his hobby.

When Mario is bored -- and out here in the countryside, surrounded by 
soaring snowcapped mountains and little else, he's bored a lot -- he 
likes to sit at his laptop and create computer viruses and worms. 
Online, he goes by the name Second Part to Hell, and he has written 
more than 150 examples of what computer experts call 'malware': 
tiny programs that exist solely to self-replicate, infecting 
computers hooked up to the Internet. Sometimes these programs cause 
damage, and sometimes they don't. Mario says he prefers to create 
viruses that don't intentionally wreck data, because simple 
destruction is too easy. "Anyone can rewrite a hard drive with one 
or two lines of code," he says, "It makes no sense. It's really 
lame." Besides which, it's mean, he says, and he likes to be 
friendly.

But still -- just to see if he could do it -- a year ago he created a 
rather dangerous tool: a program that autogenerates viruses. It's 
called a Batch Trojan Generator, and anyone can download it freely 
from Mario's Web site. With a few simple mouse clicks, you can use 
the tool to create your own malicious ''Trojan horse.'' Like its 
ancient namesake, a Trojan virus arrives in someone's e-mail looking 
like a gift, a JPEG picture or a video, for example, but actually 
bearing dangerous cargo.

Mario starts up the tool to show me how it works. A little box 
appears on his laptop screen, politely asking me to name my Trojan. I 
call it the ''Clive'' virus. Then it asks me what I'd like the virus 
to do. Shall the Trojan Horse format drive C:? Yes, I click. Shall 
the Trojan Horse overwrite every file? Yes. It asks me if I'd like to 
have the virus activate the next time the computer is restarted, and 
I say yes again.

Then it's done. The generator spits out the virus onto Mario's hard 
drive, a tiny 3k file. Mario's generator also displays a stern notice 
warning that spreading your creation is illegal. The generator, he 
says, is just for educational purposes, a way to help curious 
programmers learn how Trojans work.

But of course I could ignore that advice. I could give this virus an 
enticing name, like ''britney--spears--wedding--clip.mpeg,'' to fool 
people into thinking it's a video. If I were to e-mail it to a 
victim, and if he clicked on it -- and didn't have up-to-date 
antivirus software, which many people don't -- then disaster would 
strike his computer. The virus would activate. It would quietly reach 
into the victim's Microsoft Windows operating system and insert new 
commands telling the computer to erase its own hard drive. The next 
time the victim started up his computer, the machine would find those 
new commands, assume they were part of the normal Windows operating 
system and guilelessly follow them. Poof: everything on his hard 
drive would vanish -- e-mail, pictures, documents, games.

I've never contemplated writing a virus before. Even if I had, I 
wouldn't have known how to do it. But thanks to a teenager in 
Austria, it took me less than a minute to master the art.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/08/magazine/08WORMS.html


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From: Colin Sutton <colin@sutton.wow.aust.com>
Subject: Re: Question About 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/Antenna
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:46:02 +1100


The problem may be the *building*.  Try putting an external antenna on
the router, outside the window.  Do you then get reception on the PC?
If you put the PC by the window?  Out the window? (don't drop it! :-)


Regards,

Colin

O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e*3@cox.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.60.8@telecom-digest.org:

> I have a question about adding a wireless antenna or signal booster to my
> home network.

> My current setup is I have a Linksys WRT54G wireless router which
> supports B and G infrastructure.  I have a 802.11b Wireless PCI card
> in my PC.  In my condo, I can verify that the wireless portion of the
> network between the wireless router and my PC are functioning.  I then
> take my PC to another floor in my building, and I get little to no
> signal.  I would like to add either a signal booster and/or an antenna
> to make my network functional.

> From the reading that I have done, I can't determine where the
> antenna needs to be installed if I go this route.  Is it installed on
> the PCI portion of the network, or the router portion of the network.
> As the router TX's and RX's, is the problem with the low transmission
> power from the router and therefore I need a wireless antenna on the
> PC, or is the problem the low transmission power from the PCI card to
> the router upstairs?  I can't figure out which hardware I need to make
> this functional.

> Please contact me directly at okorkie3@cox.net (remove the *)

> Thanks,

> Owen

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:49:16 -0700
From: jared.NospaM@netspace.net.au (jared)
Subject: Telephone Service Surcharges


Thought c.d.t readers might find this list of surcharges fascinating.
Company X overlooked my local government's 911 surcharge and
just-because-its-a-source-of-revenue tax that add another few
dollars. The upshot is that a thirty-something dollar nominal cost
becomes fifty-something dollars.

COLORADO  

Federal Excise Tax  3%  

Tax mandated by the federal government imposed on all
telecommunication services.

Federal Universal Service Fund 8.7%. 

FUSF is assessed on your interstate and international charges not
including taxes. This includes a portion of the monthly product fee
that is allocated to interstate services for regulatory
purposes. [This] is consistent with the FUSF rate of other large long
distance carriers. This surcharge is assessed on any monthly long
distance plan fees/ minimums, Interstate and International Usage and
the Network Access Charge.

Network Access Surcharge Primary Line - (EUCL) $6.50 

Monthly charge assessed on each line within the household. This charge
compensates for the Local Telephone Company's cost of installation and
maintenance of the components that link your home to the telephone
network.

Network Access Surcharge Secondary Line - (EUCL) $7.00 (when applicable) 

Monthly charge assessed on each line within the household. This charge
compensates for the Local Telephone Company's cost of installation and
maintenance of the components that link your home to the telephone
network.

Carrier Cost Recovery Charge (CCRC)* 1.4% 

A monthly surcharge in order to recover costs the Company incurs with
regard to Telecommunications Relay Service, national number
portability, and federal regulatory fees. The surcharge is assessed on
long distance (Dial-1, Card, P800 and SB T800) state-to-state and
international charges.
Local 911 $0.00 - $0.70 per line 

This fee provides the local governing body with a source of revenue
for payment of the total costs of establishing or upgrading, operating
and maintaining an emergency telephone system.

State and Local Taxes 2.900% 

This is a state sales tax on the consumption of telecommunications
services.

State and Local Taxes 0% - 5% 

This is a local sales tax on the consumption of telecommunications
services.

State and Local Taxes 0% - 0.8% 

This is a special sales tax to pay for regional transportation
projects, scientific and cultural projects, and sports stadium
projects.

Federal, State and Local Surcharges $1.12 

This is a surcharge of the City of Denver telecommunications business
tax on telephone and telegraph companies.

High Cost Fund (Colorado) 2.300% 

The Colorado High Cost Fund is used to ensure the availability of
affordable basic telephone service in areas where costs to provide
service are high.

Telecommunications Relay Service $0.10 

A surcharge to fund the relay center that assists the hearing and
speech impaired with communicating to other telephone providers.

Local Number Portability (LNP) $0.43 

Covers the cost of providing residential customers with the ability to
retain, at the same location, their existing local telephone numbers
when switching from one local provider to another.

------------------------------

From: asmith42@hotmail.com (Alex Smith)
Subject: Building a Voice-Driven Application
Date: 7 Feb 2004 16:11:34 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello all,

I am venturing into the telephony world and even though I have briefly
dealt with CTI and H.323, I am still a newbie. I'd like to build an
application that would allow me to buy apples from several grocery
stores. (This is a hypothetical but representative example, please
bear with me). I want to place a telephone call to a number, enter my
pin, navigate through some voice prompts that will allow me to select
a particular grocery store, then select a variety of apples and enter
the amount of apples (weight) I'd like to buy using the phone keypad.
Finally I would also like to leave voice instructions for the grocer
on how to pack my apples (paper or plastic). The app would "look me
up" using my pin number and store the packing instructions as a
soundbyte along with the other order parameters in a database.

 From a high-level architectural perspective, what hardware and
software components would make up my stack? For the sake of the
example, assume small volume (personal use). I am looking for
high-level architecture rather than product names even though Open
Source/GNU/etc suggestions are welcome.

My limited understanding tells me I need a CTI server. Do I need a
PBX? Other components? If I want to parse the voice instructions (i.e.
speech recognition) in order to extract "paper" or "plastic", how
doable is that?

Any URLs or books that go from slow to complex with architectural
examples are appreciated.

Alex Smith
Insight LLC

------------------------------

From: fakeaddress@fakedomain.com
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:26:36 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:42:21 -0500, <fakeaddress@fakedomain.com>
wrote:

> Two thoughts here:

> 1. The DNC list works well for me.  I usually don't see more than
> one telemarketer every month or so.  See
> https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx

> 2. If the telco's were interested in enforcing the DNC, they'd add a
> new CLASS service like malicious call trace that captures the caller
> ID _and_ ANI.  Typing the *xx code could report these numbers to the
> FTC, with the time and your phone number so your complaint can be more
> easily traced.  That is, if the phone companies really wanted to help
> enforce the anti-telemarketer regs.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There *is* a CLASS service such as you
> describe. *57 does that job; dial *57 during a conversation (flash the
> hook, fresh dialtone, *57, then flash again to go back to the
> conversation) or immediatly following disconnection, and telco records
> the details regardless of any privacy flags (*67, etc) being set and 
> forwards the details to police. **They will NOT tell you the details. 
> You have to get the details from the police.** Police will generally
> only give you details if you agree _in writing first_ to prosecute on
> the results. Telco will not serve as your private detective agency,
> etc. Communication privacy laws prohibit telco from working with you
> directly. Getting the police to actually do something about the matter
> is a different thing. Many police believe it is a civil matter, and 
> they are not permitted to get involved in civil matters. Police also
> usually have a busy schedule and phone harassment is not a big issue,
> especially when there is a telemarketer causing you some minor grief. 

> Oh, and *57 is not an inexpensive CLASS service. Typically, telco gets
> eight to ten dollars for *each instance* of its use. The recorded 
> message they play immediatly following the capture of the details
> tells you about this charge, and provides an 800 number at the 'call
> annoyance bureau' to be used to follow up with telco and police. PAT]

I had thought that *57 cost one dollar a use, but found you are right,
a couple of SBCs tariffs that charge $7 and $8 per successful use.  I
thought a buck was too much, and the headache of getting the local LEA
involved was not worth the effort, even if they did anything.  That's
why I think we need a similar service that sends the data to the
FTC/FCCs enforcement division (to get around the privacy aspects).

If its cheap (i.e. free) and easy to send the data, people will do it.
The FTC/FCC do not call list website seems to have been done by
someone with at least a clue as to what they are doing, so I bet they
could set up a system to automatically record all the data that was
sent in, and sort it by number of calls from each ANI and each CID, so
they could address the most prolific violators first.

Also, you need both ANI and CID.  I don't know if *57 gives both.  You
need ANI because CID can be faked; you need CID because a company may
use many telemarketers, each with their own line (and ANI).

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:38:29 -0500
From: Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
Organization: Booz Allen Hamilton
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject


Oops -- I checked my Verizon bill. The service is called "Call
Intercept" and is $5 per month plus the $7.50 per month caller ID.  
Anonymous Call Rejection  is part of the basic overpriced local service.
Sorry for the confusion.

Mike

Mary@bentmetal.biz responded to my post on Re: New Telemarketer Law, 
Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject:

> Your feature sounds more like Privacy Manager than Anonymous Call
> Rejection.

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:43:29 GMT


In article <telecom23.61.10@telecom-digest.org>, Wesrock@aol.com says:

> In a message dated Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:36:46 -0500 TELECOM Digest
> Editor noted in response to Robert Pierce's message: 

>> I don't know of any large corporation back in the 1960-70's as
>> computers were taking over everything which did not run in
>> parallel for at least a month or two for just that reason. I know
>> telco and Amoco credit card did that.  PAT]

> This does not seem to be typical of government, state, local,
> etc.  In Oklahoma there have been at least three cases in the last few
> years where this apparently not even considered and the new system was
> supposed to run straight out of the box.  One was a combined system
> for state government, which took six weeks or so to get where it would
> even issue pay checks to state employees ... another was the Oklahoma
> City school district which did similarly and employee pay checks were
> delayed for a number of days, and payments to vendors for many weeks,
> to the extent that some vendors cut them off, and another case
> involving Oklahoma County payrolls.

Indeed. State of Rhode Island went with a canned solution for their
G/L system which had previously been running on an IBM mainframe. The
new one ran via Citrix metaframe using Oracle on the back end.

Of course the problem was that the pukes in purchasing got a system
that was great for purchasing but sucked as a G/L package.

So at one point we tried to pay things using non-existent codes -- and
had to fudge. That does wonders for the G/L. Then of course getting
checks cut to vendors was a major headache as was reporting. Every
quarter we'd get a crappy Access database of all the revenue and
expenditures for every state agency. I re-worked it so I just brought
the table into the version I'd modified that could issue reports for
ONLY our agency code and could do summaries, etc. Theirs couldn't.

Took more than a year to work things out on that system. Wisely, they
didn't migrate payroll because they knew what would have happened.

------------------------------

From: dave@compata.com (Dave Close)
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Date: 8 Feb 2004 12:30:03 -0800
Organization: Compata, Costa Mesa, California


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is very little you can do
> *without computers* that can't be done better *with computers*,
> including detecting fraud and other crimes.

Money manipulators have been counting the stuff for centuries. One
thing accountants figured out a long time ago is that, just as with
the US Constitution, a system of checks and balances makes the whole
thing work more reliably. No reputable fund manager would tolerate a
system which could not be audited.

But just as with the "new economy" bubble, some folks think that
voting electronically does not need to be subject to the same old
rules. Los Angeles County has been counting ballots with computers for
about 35 years, so using computers as part of the process is certainly
not new. But those ballots have been punched cards and they can be
counted manually in case of any doubt about the computer counting.

The problem with the proposed military system and many other net
voting schemes is that there is no auditability. No one, not even a
computer, can detect and prove a fraud without that ability. Voting
via the Net may happen, but many of us won't support it until there is
a method for conducting an audit.


        Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA       +1 714 434 7359
	dave@compata.com              dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu
     "Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't
      mean politics won't take an interest in you." - Pericles

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But what I said was about the same
thing: Run the new system in parallel with the old system *at least*
for one cycle using the usual audit procedures on the paper system
to validate the computer system. And if turning the whole thing loose
on the general public is too difficult at first, then overseas
military would make a good subset to practice on. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Steve Michelson <njchillie@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 02:08:41 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net


I wonder whether you live in a state where they are having primary
elections. The Do Not Call list does not apply to political pollsters,
charities, and companies with whom you had an existing
relationship. Perhaps you are getting calls from political pollsters?

Mike <littleboyblu87@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.61.3@telecom-digest.org:

> I registered on that Do Not Call list back when it first came out.
> When it went into affect we stopped receiving all those annoying
> telemarketing phone calls. But ever since that new law came out that
> requires telemarketers to display info on the caller id, we've been
> getting about 3 "out of area" calls everyday at the same times they
> used to call.

> Does anyone know what that's all about? It's really annoying.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It goes to show that the telemarketers
> are keeping up with the times. Telemarketers are not going to be
> easily thwarted. :)  PAT]

------------------------------

From: CCIE8122 <none@none.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:27:56 -0700
Organization: XMission http://www.xmission.com/
Subject: Re: Call Centres


> Does anyone know what the situation is in the US/Canada as far as call
> centres being transferred abroad is like?

> It's *BIG* news over here at the moment, with many companies, such as
> insurance companies, telco's (including BT), some 118 Directory
> Assistance companies,  National Rail Enquiries, and AOL, opening up
> call centres in India, primarily Kolkutt and Mumbai.  Basically
> they're *MUCH* cheaper to run and operate over there than call centres
> here in the UK, but that's at the expense of job losses as well.  At
> the moment they're being used as overflow for the call centres here 
>  --  but as I say, that's at the moment.

> BTW, the reason I know that AOL have opened a centre in India is
> because I had to call them a few weeks ago, only for my call to be
> answered (eventually) by a guy with a very strong Indian accent -- you
> don't hear Indian accents in Waterford, Ireland, where AOL have their
> main European office!

> TIA!

> Rob

Same in US.

I sell MCI/AT&T/Qwest/GX services, including IPL, to a major call
center company in the US (they do call center for UPS, United
Healthcare, Metlife, AT&T, and several other Fortune 500 cos).  May
even be the same company that does AOL.

Anyway this company has IPL to Mexico, Ghana, India (Bangalore and
Mumbai), with call centers in all those locations.  According to them
the next major areas are Beijing, and Philippines.

Other major companies like Cisco do a similar sort of thing -- Cisco
TAC does sort of a "follow the sun," doing TOD routing between call
centers in US, India, Sydney, among others.

kr

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One reason they like locating in the
Philippines (well, two reasons, actually) is the neutrality of the
language (mostly decent English) and the low costs involved in the
payroll; the people work for very low wages, and employers are
not subject to all the various worker comp, insurance, and taxes
they are here in the USA. Work for people who need jobs, and less
grief for the employers. A 'win-win' situation for all (smile) except
the USA customers/consumers.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: kimbrennan@aol.comfrtz.com (KimBrennan)
Date: 08 Feb 2004 05:28:36 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users


Of course, DirecPC has "fair use" limits too (and for far more reason
as satellite bandwidth is much more limited, and must more expensive
to upgrade.)

However ...

This begs the question of what they (Comcast et al) are doing. ISP
means (or is SUPPOSED to mean) Internet Service
Provider. Unfortunately far too many of these silly people think that
means ONLY http, and they restrict it so that ONLY http can be served.

But INTERNET service implies FTP and Mail and telnet and a whole slew
of other capabilities.

If they want to "restrict" users to an equal playfield (though the
usage patterns may not justify that anyway) then each user should have
the EXACT same limits. It's called dial up.

Bah. 

"I'm sorry, all my money is tied up in currency."
W.C.Fields


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And how often do you ever see an ISP
who will give you a shell if you ask for one. They're deathly afraid
of what havoc you might cause if you had a shell account.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Faked CallerID Info?
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 15:18:21 -0600


Gail M. Hall <gmhall@apk.net> wrote:

> What I don't understand is the part of the "exposure" that really
> bothered me, and that is the appearance of grabbing the girl's clothes
> off of her.  Grabbing and groping against her will is just a lower
> form of imposition and the type of thinking that leads to rape.

> This sort of thing glorifies abusing other people.

Hey Gail!

If you've read any of Janet's interviews ... in many of them she
admits to being very, well, sexual. Which is fine, and she hasn't
attempted to market sexuality like Madonna has. But it still bothers
me that someone with the magnitude of talent that Janet Jackson has
 ... *or* Madonna ... or Christina Aguilera, who has an AMAZING voice
 ... it bugs me that any of those three extremely talented ladies feels
the need to do some of the things they've done.

They all have the goods they need to succeed (and NO, I'm not talking
about body parts, get your mind out of the gutter!) and don't have to
act like total skanks in order to get people's attention. I'm afraid
that Janet, however, is going down that road. Christina started down
that road a while ago, and Madonna, unfortunately, *paved* that
road. :( (And during the years when she was more interested in
shocking people than making music, her music suffered.)

Back on topic here -- the Janet/Justin thing, the streaker advertising
the online casino -- telemarketers -- spammers -- the idiot standing
in the used car lot screaming at you - they're all employing the same
marketing ploy: "get in their faces, annoy them and maybe they'll pay
attention." (As you so rightly pointed out.)

Know why?

BECAUSE WE LET THEM. (And because they think they have the God-given
right to do it, in the case of the telemarketers who insist they do
nothing wrong.)

Need I say more?


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you, Doctor Sobol, for that very
interesting message -- I'll call it the Sunday evening sermon for this
week. You raise some very good points. That's one reason why I hope
the television sets which are able to detect the presence of a comm-
ercial message (when one comes on, it stops recording until the
message is finished, then resumes its recording) are very successful
in their sales. We need more such vigorous resistence by the public.

To all readers: stop by our 'literature table' on your way out of 
this issue of the Digest tonight, and place your order for a very 
good pictorial history book now available on Illinois Bell/Ameritech.
I hope you will decide to order a personal copy. See the final 
message in this issue today.  PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Ameritech historical picture book available
Reply-To: jhaynes@alumni.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas Alumni
From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:01:53 GMT


(this came to me via the greenkeys mailing list)

The SBC Archives and History Center is pleased to offer the book
entitled, Snapshots in Time: A Photographic History of Ameritech.

This 192-page soft-cover book chronicles the evolution of
telecommunications in the SBC Midwest (former Ameritech) five-state
region through select historical images.  It offers more than 225
captioned photos of switchboard operators, crews with their vehicles
and technicians testing central office equipment.  The book begins
with an 1876 portrait of Alexander Graham Bell and ends in 1999, on
the eve of the SBC/Ameritech merger.

The cost for each book is $25.00, plus $4.95 for shipping.

To order, fill out the form below.  If you have questions, please call
Bill Caughlin at (210) 524-6192.  Or send him an e-mail at
wc2942@sbc.com

  ---------------------------------------------------------------


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jhaynes at alumni dot uark dot edu

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    Telecom Update (Canada) #419, February 9, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Book Review: "Web Site Privacy With P3P", Lindskog/Lindskog (Rob Slade)
    Re: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users (Clarence Dold)
    Re: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users (Rich Greenberg)
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Subject: Telecom Update (Canada) #419, February 9, 2004


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IN THIS ISSUE:

** Sault PUC to Offer Internet Over Power Lines
** Bell to Own 100% of Bell West
** Shaw Registers to Offer Phone Service
** Cybersurf, Shaw Spar Over Internet Access
** Wireless Auction Starts Today
** Call-Net vs Royal Bank and Bell
** Bell Offers Global IP Networking
** Telecom Ottawa Tests Wi-Fi Service
** CRTC Deregulates Telus Quebec's WAN Services
** TeraGo to Offer Wholesale Broadband
** Ottawa Optical Startup Raises $10 Million
** Milliard to Head Ottawa VoIP Developer
** CATA Seeks Nominations for Innovation Award
** Financial Results
       Allstream
       BCE
       Cisco
       MTS
       Rogers Wireless
       Telesat
** Contact Centre Leadership Program Launched
** Charter Offer for Telemanagement Online

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SAULT PUC TO OFFER INTERNET OVER POWER LINES: PUC Telecom, owned by
the City of Sault Ste. Marie, has begun technical trials of Broadband
over Power Line technology developed by Massachusetts-based Amperion
Inc. It hopes to begin market trials, perhaps involving thousands of
homes, "in a matter of weeks."

BELL TO OWN 100% OF BELL WEST: As expected, MTS has decided to
exercise its option to require Bell Canada to buy the Manitoba telco's
40% stake in Bell West, for approximately $645 million. Bell says it
will pay the purchase price, due in 180 days, out of general corporate
funds.

SHAW REGISTERS TO OFFER PHONE SERVICE: On January 22, Shaw Telecom
Inc. notified the CRTC that it intends to meet all the regulatory
obligations of a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier, and plans to
begin offering service in Calgary. It provided no dates or details.

CYBERSURF, SHAW SPAR OVER INTERNET ACCESS: Calgary-based ISP Cybersurf
has told the CRTC that Shaw Cablesystems has refused to provide its
retail higher-speed Internet service to Cybersurf for resale, as the
Commission ordered in Telecom Decision 2003-87 (see Telecom Update
#414). Shaw counters that it is now ready to provide Third Party
Internet Access in Vancouver and Calgary, so the resale arrangement is
superseded.

www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2004/8622/c122_200400656.htm

WIRELESS AUCTION STARTS TODAY: The auction for Canadian spectrum in
the 2.5 and 3.5 GHz bands starts on February 9, with 22 qualified
bidders. Information on bidders and licences is available on Industry
Canada's website, which will also provide round-by-round summaries of
bidding.

http://agora.ic.gc.ca/AuctionGCLF_BTS/mainmenu.cfm

CALL-NET VS ROYAL BANK AND BELL: Call-Net has asked the CRTC to block
a mass transfer to Bell Canada of Sprint long distance customers
served under a "Talk and Save" program available to Royal Bank Visa
users. RBC wants to switch them to Bell, but Sprint says that requires
explicit authorization from each individual customer.

www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2004/8622/c25_200400812.htm

BELL OFFERS GLOBAL IP NETWORKING: Bell Canada has launched Global
Internet Protocol Suite, which extends its enterprise IP networks to
50 countries, using Infonet's international IP network.

TELECOM OTTAWA TESTS WI-FI SERVICE: Telecom Ottawa has begun a
three-month trial of wireless technology developed by a Ottawa-based
BelAir Networks. The utility-owned carrier will provide free Wi-Fi
Internet access at Ottawa City Hall and the Nepean Sportsplex through
April.

CRTC DEREGULATES TELUS QUEBEC'S WAN SERVICES: CRTC Telecom Decision
2004-7 forbears from regulating Telus Quebec's wide area network
services, on similar terms to other major incumbents' WAN
services. The Commission retains the power to protect customer
confidentiality and to prevent discrimination against other service
providers or customers.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-7.htm

TERAGO TO OFFER WHOLESALE BROADBAND: TeraGo Networks has begun
offering wireless broadband at wholesale rates to Internet providers,
resellers, and sales agents.

OTTAWA OPTICAL STARTUP RAISES $10 MILLION: Metconnex, an Ottawa-based
supplier of optical components, has raised $10.6 million from an
international investors group led by St. Paul Venture Capital and
Skypoint Capital.

MILLIARD TO HEAD OTTAWA VoIP DEVELOPER: Natural Convergence, an
Ottawa-based developer of broadband communications software for VoIP,
has named Daniel Milliard as CEO. Milliard was formerly CEO of Group
Telecom.

CATA SEEKS NOMINATIONS FOR INNOVATION AWARD: The Canadian Advanced
Technology Alliance will present the "19th Annual Canadian Innovation
Awards" in Ottawa April 27. Nomination deadline is March 5; for more
information go to www.cata.ca/Media_and_Events/Awards/

FINANCIAL RESULTS:

** Allstream reports fourth-quarter sales of $301.9 million,
    2.4% less than during the same period last year. Net
    income was $17.1 million, down 29% from the previous
    quarter.

** BCE reports fourth-quarter revenue of $4.9 billion and net
    income of $400 million. Bell Canada's revenue from
    continuing operations was down 1.8% from last year: long
    distance and data sales fell 5%, while local and access
    sales were unchanged and those of wireless rose 16%.

** Cisco had net income of US$1.3 billion in the quarter
    ended January 24, up from $1.1 billion the previous
    quarter. Sales rose 5.8% on the quarter to $5.4 billion.
    Cisco predicted that sales growth would slow in the next
    quarter to 1%-3%.

** Manitoba Telecom's fourth quarter revenues were $211
    million, level with those of a year earlier; net income
    rose 5.7% to $12.8 million. Wireless sales were up 16%;
    long distance sales fell 13%. As of February 2, MTS had
    connected 10,000 customers for TV over DSL.

** Rogers Wireless reports fourth quarter revenue of $625
    million, 19% more than in the same period last year. Net
    income was $1.35 million, compared to a $39 million loss.
    Revenue per subscriber rose 2.4%. Data service revenue
    made up 4% of sales, double the rate of a year ago. Rogers
    added a net 166,200 postpaid subscribers in the quarter.

** Telesat Canada, a BCE subsidiary, had net earnings of
    $11.5 million, down 35% from the previous year. Sales
    increased 5% to $99 million.

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From: Rob Slade <rslade@sprint.ca>
Organization: Vancouver Institute for Research into User 
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 08:18:38 -0800
Subject: Book Review: "Web Site Privacy with P3P", Lindskog/Lindskog


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"Web Site Privacy with P3P", Helena Lindskog/Stefan Lindskog, 2003,
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%    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471216771/robsladesinterne
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%O   http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471216771/robsladesin03-20
%P   244 p.
%T   "Web Site Privacy with P3P"

Chapter one is a brief but reasonable introduction to privacy.
Internet security gets the same level of treatment in chapter two.
The World Wide Web is explained in chapter three.  Privacy and the net
are examined in chapter four.  All of this acts as background by the
time we get to chapter five, which explains the Platform for Privacy
Preferences, or P3P.  Chapter six describes how to enhance your Web
site's privacy.  The creation of a privacy policy is reviewed in
chapter seven.  Chapter eight lists such a policy in English, and then
nine provides a detailed structure of how the policy is established
using P3P.  Special consideration for cookies is outlined in chapter
ten.  Chapter eleven examines P3P tools.  P3P and mobile networking,
as well as XML source code for policies, is given in chapter twelve.

A serviceable guide, with no major problems, but no stellar qualities,
either.

copyright Robert M. Slade, 2003   BKWSPP3P.RVW   20031019

======================  (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)
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http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev    or    http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade

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From: dold@ComcastXHa.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:59:46 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: a2i network


KimBrennan <kimbrennan@aol.comfrtz.com> wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And how often do you ever see an ISP
> who will give you a shell if you ask for one. They're deathly afraid
> of what havoc you might cause if you had a shell account.  PAT]

I only read mail and usenet news from a shell account ... cuts down on
the virus/worms and anything that I can't read is probably SPAM
anyway.

http://www.rahul.net/guest is what I use, at the moment connected via
cablemodem to an ISP that I never use, except for connectivity.

A google search for "shell account" turns up lots of potential sites.

http://www.sonic.net is another company in my area that is well respected
and offers dialup-dsl-wireless and shell accounts.

KimBrennan <kimbrennan@aol.comfrtz.com> wrote:

> This begs the question of what they (Comcast et al) are doing. ISP
> means (or is SUPPOSED to mean) Internet Service
> Provider. Unfortunately far too many of these silly people think that
> means ONLY http, and they restrict it so that ONLY http can be served.

> But INTERNET service implies FTP and Mail and telnet and a whole slew
> of other capabilities.

I think streaming video is generally delivered via http, or at least as a
result of web browsing.  To me, FTP implies two way.  I don't just download
stuff.  The cable and DSL already have limits on the speed of uploads.

Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

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From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users
Date: 8 Feb 2004 19:52:45 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.62.11@telecom-digest.org>, KimBrennan
<kimbrennan@aol.comfrtz.com> wrote:

[...]

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And how often do you ever see an ISP
> who will give you a shell if you ask for one. They're deathly afraid
> of what havoc you might cause if you had a shell account.  PAT]

There are several.  IMHO the one I use is the best run one (Panix).
And my HO was confirmed by some extensive discussion in an internal
newsgroup started by someone asking for suggestions for backup shell
providers.  Thier policy is you can do nearly anything you want as
long as its legal and doesn't disturb the service for other users.
Example: They don't officially support the "screen" utility, but if
you know unix well enough to d/l and compile your own copy, feel free
to use it.

Another frequent poster to CDT works there.  He can chime in if he
wishes.


Rich Greenberg  Work:  Rich.Greenberg atsign worldspan.com  + 1 770 563 6656
N6LRT  Marietta, GA, USA   Play: richgr atsign panix.com    + 1 770 321 6507
Eastern time zone.  I speak for myself & my dogs only.     VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val(Chinook,CGC,TT), Red & Shasta(Husky,(RIP))       Owner:Chinook-L
Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/  Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

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From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: Call Centres
Date: 9 Feb 2004 04:33:20 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


CCIE8122 <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.62.10@telecom-digest.org>:

>> Does anyone know what the situation is in the US/Canada as far as call
>> centres being transferred abroad is like?

>> It's *BIG* news over here at the moment, with many companies, such as
>> insurance companies, telco's (including BT), some 118 Directory
>> Assistance companies,  National Rail Enquiries, and AOL, opening up
>> call centres in India, primarily Kolkutt and Mumbai.  Basically
>> they're *MUCH* cheaper to run and operate over there than call centres
>> here in the UK, but that's at the expense of job losses as well.  At
>> the moment they're being used as overflow for the call centres here 
>>  --  but as I say, that's at the moment.

>> BTW, the reason I know that AOL have opened a centre in India is
>> because I had to call them a few weeks ago, only for my call to be
>> answered (eventually) by a guy with a very strong Indian accent -- you
>> don't hear Indian accents in Waterford, Ireland, where AOL have their
>> main European office!

>> TIA!

>> Rob

> Same in US.

> I sell MCI/AT&T/Qwest/GX services, including IPL, to a major call
> center company in the US (they do call center for UPS, United
> Healthcare, Metlife, AT&T, and several other Fortune 500 cos).  May
> even be the same company that does AOL.

> Anyway this company has IPL to Mexico, Ghana, India (Bangalore and
> Mumbai), with call centers in all those locations.  According to them
> the next major areas are Beijing, and Philippines.

> Other major companies like Cisco do a similar sort of thing -- Cisco
> TAC does sort of a "follow the sun," doing TOD routing between call
> centers in US, India, Sydney, among others.

> kr

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One reason they like locating in the
> Philippines (well, two reasons, actually) is the neutrality of the
> language (mostly decent English) and the low costs involved in the
> payroll; the people work for very low wages, and employers are
> not subject to all the various worker comp, insurance, and taxes
> they are here in the USA. Work for people who need jobs, and less
> grief for the employers. A 'win-win' situation for all (smile) except
> the USA customers/consumers.  PAT]

Yeah, it's very much the same over here.  Most major banks, such as
Barclays, Abbey, HSBC, Lloyds TSB have transferred call centres over
to India (my bank, NatWest, hasn't, thankfully), as well as many
insurance companies such as Sun Alliance, Prudential, Axa.

Because English is spoken fluently by the literate in India, as well
as the wages being an nth of what they are over here in the UK and
Europe, and the lack of employee rights are just a few of the reasons
British companies chose to go there en masse.

Some British companies have also moved call centres to South Africa,
where there's no language problem whatsoever.  China I'm not so sure
about, but I wouldn't put it past any major British company to move
call centres etc, to the Philipines in the not too distant future.

Oh BTW, British jobs are also going to Europe, as well.  My mother
worked at Hoover Europe Headquarters in the neighbouring valley and
her department (export) was transferred to Italy.  I've put it down to
the fact that, as Italy's in the Eurozone, it's cheaper for them to
export from there to other countries which use the Pound than to export
from here, where the Pound is stronger, and therefore the goods are
more expensive for sale to Euroland.

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: 9 Feb 2004 06:45:16 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


BobGoudreau@withheld at users request wrote in message
news:<telecom23.60.6@telecom-digest.org>:

> [Please obcure my email address.  Thank you.]

> Rodgers Platt wrote:

>> Keeping notes in a diary may make them "more difficult" to share, but
>> the support systems available are much more robust, and my day timer
>> notebook will never die because the battery went flat.

> On the other hand, one aspect of the paper diary support system is
> painfully inadequate: backup.  My friend's wife painfully discovered
> this last year when her purse (including her daytimer) was stolen from
> her car and never recovered.  Tens of thousands of bytes of
> hand-written data were lost forever.  This loss finally persuaded her
> to emulate her husband's example and get a PDA, which can be easily
> (and wirelessly) synced with his office computer to provide a backup
> copy.  Even if the device is lost or destroyed, a replacement can
> quickly be purchased and loaded with all the backed-up data, which
> will be no more than a day or two out of date.

We are beating a dead horse, but if the person having the PDA never
performs a backup or transfer -- when was the last time you backed up
the contents of your PC's hard disk -- the data is still lost.  PDAs
and computers still do not have the ability to take hand drawn
graphics as input, notes or other items that may be shared.  Every
office I visit has at least a copier or fax machine that would allow a
sheet of notes or sketches to be copied and shared if need be.

Most of the time, and this goes for all you advocating the use of PDAs
as well, the notes I take at a meeting are for my use and are not
shared.  When was the last time you sent someone a copy of your
meeting notes?  The notes I take are virtually meaningless to someone
else as they don't think, or remember, things the way I do.

With notes in a daytimer, I have a record of what happened, and when. 
Not only the date, but the time.  If someone wants a copy of my notes,
I can scan and e-mail or fax them a copy -- complete with drawings.

Rodgers

For keeping records of appointments, phone lists and expense records,
a PDA is difficult to beat.  I can sync the PDA with my PC and have it
keep records and even download expense information to a program for
tracking purposes.  Paper, for this purpose, is a little more
difficult I know and recognize.  Each has its use and there are some
things for which the "old" way still excels.

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    The Pornography Industry vs. Digital Pirates (Monty Solomon)
    Social Networks: Will Users Pay to Get Friends? (Monty Solomon)
    Shorten TV Season? Rules Shifting at Networks (Monty Solomon)
    Recording the VCR's Swan Song (Monty Solomon)
    For Better HDTV Displays, It's All About the Chip (Monty Solomon)
    Yours Not So Truly, J. Goodspam (Monty Solomon)
    Thorny Issues Await FCC. as It Takes Up Internet Phones (Monty Solomon)
    Will the Election be Hacked? (Monty Solomon)
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:17:37 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Pornography Industry vs. Digital Pirates


By JOHN SCHWARTZ

THOUSANDS of Web sites are putting Playboy magazine's pictures on the 
Internet -- free. And Randy Nicolau, the president of Playboy.com, is 
loving it. "It's direct marketing at its finest," he said.

Let the music industry sue those who share files, and let Hollywood
push for tough laws and regulations to curb movie copying. Playboy,
like many companies that provide access to virtual flesh and
naughtiness, is turning online freeloaders into subscribers by giving
away pictures to other sites that, in turn, drive visitors right back
to Playboy.com.

When Mr. Nicolau is asked whether he thinks that the entertainment 
industry is making a mistake by taking a different approach, he 
replies: "I haven't spent much time thinking about it. It's like 
asking Henry Ford, 'What were the buggy-whip guys doing wrong?' "
The copyright rumble is playing out a little differently in the 
red-light districts of cyberspace. That neighborhood is increasingly 
difficult to confine, what with a fetishwear-clad Janet Jackson 
flashing a Super Bowl audience of millions, and Paris Hilton making 
her own version of a "Girls Gone Wild" video. Professional peddlers 
say they are hard pressed to compete.

Still, the business of being bad is very good, especially for the 
biggest players. Though the industry has felt a financial squeeze 
during the economic slowdown, it nonetheless has sales of as much as 
$2 billion each year, said Tom Hymes, the editor of AVNOnline, a 
business magazine for the industry.

And the pornography industry, which has always been among the first to
exploit new technologies, including the VCR, the World Wide Web and
online payment systems, is finding novel ways to deal with the threat
of online piracy as well. The mainstream entertainment industry, some
experts say, would do well to pay attention.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/08/business/yourmoney/08porn.html

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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:27:33 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Social Networks: Will Users Pay to Get Friends?


Social Networks: Will Users Pay to Get Friends?

By BOB TEDESCHI

The idea behind "social networking" Web sites like Friendster, 
Tribe.net and LinkedIn is almost the opposite of the old Groucho Marx 
joke: they attract people who want to join a club eager to have them.

But as the popularity of such sites has taken off, the big question
for investors in new technologies is whether social networking sites
can ever make a lot of money by connecting friends of friends in
mini-networks of trust, whether for dating, business or maintaining
acquaintances. For many, the buzz over social networking sounds a lot
like vintage Internet hyperbole from the late 1990's.

"I'm having a real problem finding a business model here," said Nate
Elliott, an analyst with Jupiter Research. "It feels like the early
days of the Internet, with sites like Globe.com saying they'll
aggregate tens of millions of users, then find a way to monetize
them. That's not the way to run a business."

The creators of such services strenuously disagree, arguing that in
contrast to the hundreds of dot-coms that bombed, they have clear
plans for generating revenue. But those plans could be short-circuited
by Internet giants like Yahoo and Google, as well as by established
players in the online jobs and dating categories, whose turf most
social networking sites seek to occupy.

Indeed, as the more popular dating and jobs sites like Match.com and
Monster.com quickly add networking features of their own, sites like
Friendster face the challenge of how to differentiate themselves -
beyond boasting that they are, for now, free.


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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 23:30:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Shorten TV Season? Rules Shifting at Networks


By BILL CARTER
February 8, 2004

When NBC recently invited Donald J. Trump to move into its most
exclusive neighborhood on Thursday night, the network's competitors
immediately recognized the momentousness of the programming maneuver.

For the sake of finding the best location for Mr. Trump's new reality
series, "The Apprentice," NBC broke with a two-decade tradition of
offering its four best comedies in a row on Thursday night, the night
of "Friends" and "Cheers" and "Seinfeld," the night that has generated
the most advertising revenue by far for any network.

Now that "The Apprentice" has become the most successful new show of 
the season, NBC executives have announced that they plan to bring it 
-- as well as Mr. Trump -- back in the same 9 p.m. time slot in the 
fall.

NBC's decision to overturn its "must see" comedy strategy for a
reality show is only the latest sign that the playbook that has
governed prime-time programming since the days of radio is in the
midst of its most substantial revision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/08/business/media/08TUBE.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:16:59 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Recording the VCR's Swan Song


By DAVID POGUE

PREDICTING the future of technology is a fool's game. Still, every 
now and then, you recognize that a product is so obviously superior 
to what came before it, the writing is on the wall in block letters 
big enough for Mr. Magoo to read. The graphic elegance of the first 
Macintosh spelled the demise of DOS, the crisp sound and compact size 
of the CD unmistakably suggested the vinyl record's decline, and the 
convenience of the digital camera set off a tailspin in film sales 
that continues today.

Don't look now, but another machine you probably own is on its way 
out: the VCR. Its disruptive successor is the cheap set-top DVD 
recorder.

Now, the phrase "cheap set-top DVD recorder" may strike you as two 
oxymorons in one. First of all, in this era of flat screens that are 
only two inches thick, the last place you'd set a set-top box is on 
the top of the set. (Nominations are welcome for a better term that 
distinguishes these TV-room DVD recorders from the ones that you 
attach to a computer.)

Second, there's that bit about "cheap." Everybody knows that set-top 
DVD recorders are expensive. The best ones include a hard drive for 
TiVo-like flexibility but cost $600 and up. DVD-only models start at 
$400 or so. Logic and pundits have long maintained that the VCR's 
funeral rites won't begin in earnest until DVD-recorder prices fall 
below $300 -- and now they have, led by Gateway's AR-230 and a few 
rivals from lesser-known companies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/05/technology/circuits/05stat.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:17:46 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: For Better HDTV Displays, It's All About the Chip


By ERIC A. TAUB

BACK in the dark ages of high-definition television -- about four 
years ago -- HDTV pictures suffered in quality.

The problem was not with the technical standard, but with some of the
digital television sets that were sold. "The weakest link in the HDTV
chain was the display," recalled Joe Flaherty, a CBS senior vice
president for technology who was one of the people responsible for
instituting digital high-definition TV. "It was like Mark Twain's
comment that Wagner's music is better than it sounds."

The biggest sets at the time, supersize rear-projection monstrosities
priced around $10,000, used conventional cathode-ray-tube technology
to create images. As a result, the high-definition pictures were not
very sharp and had some problems common to big-screen TV's in general:
inaccurate color registration and pronounced "hot spots" that limited
where viewers could sit and see the picture.

Today, consumers have a much wider and better choice of display
technologies in HDTV models, some of which are priced considerably
lower than those available a few years ago.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/05/technology/circuits/05howw.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:22:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Yours Not So Truly, J. Goodspam


By LISA NAPOLI

PURPOSES L. XYLOPHONIST sounds like my kind of man. Unique. Creative. 
Focused, with a hint of formality.

There is no way to be certain that Mr. Xylophonist is, in fact, a 
mister. Actually, it is a pretty safe bet he is not a person at all. 
The fact that his name appeared in the return line of a piece of 
unsolicited e-mail almost assures that he is not.

Mr. Xylophonist wrote trying to sell some pamphlet about maximizing 
profits on eBay. Or maybe that was what Beiderbecke P. Sawhorse was 
pitching. It was definitely not the one from Marylou Bowling; she 
wrote to tell about "Government Free Cash Grant Programs." Then 
again, that might have been from Elfrieda Billman. As for Usefully T. 
Medicaids and Boggs Darrin, they both wrote about cheap drug sales, 
no prescription needed. (Of course.)

Alongside those missives from friends and that drudgery from the 
office is a cast of e-mail characters with fantastic names promising 
all manner of stuff for sale. Frequently the promises are bogus; 
virtually all of the names are, too.

Though it seems impossible to imagine the unwanted e-mail known as 
spam as anything but a nuisance, there is something creative about 
these return addresses -- even if they are being used for untoward 
purposes. On Web bulletin boards, they are sometimes draw admiring 
observations.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/05/technology/circuits/05name.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:26:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Thorny Issues Await F.C.C. as It Takes Up Internet Phones


By STEPHEN LABATON

WASHINGTON, Feb. 8 - The effort to write the rules for Internet
telephone service begins this week, and whether it succeeds may
ultimately come down to a matter of money.

On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission is set to consider
approving a notice of proposed rulemaking, the first step in a
lengthy process of writing regulations for Internet-based phone
services. The commission is also set to issue a final decision on a
petition by one of the new Internet phone companies, Pulver.com,
which has asked the commission to rule that it does not need to pay
interconnection access fees to phone companies for any calls made and
received between computers through Internet connections.


http://nytimes.com/2004/02/09/technology/09rules.html

The Issues Before the F.C.C.

By THE NEW YORK TIMES
February 9, 2004

The Federal Communications Commission plans this week to begin
considering rules for new Internet telephone systems, a process that
could have a lasting economic impact on the telephone, cable and
computer industries. Here are some of the major issues that new rules
would need to address and some of the related industry petitions
pending at the F.C.C.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/09/technology/09rules-side.html

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 01:14:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Will The Election be Hacked?


A Salon special report reveals how new voting machines could result 
in a rigged presidential race -- and we'd never know.

By Farhad Manjoo

Feb. 9, 2004 | A few weeks after Election Night 2002, Roxanne Jekot, a
computer programmer who lives in Cumming, Ga., began fearing demons
lingering in the state's voting machines. The midterm election had
been a historic one: Georgia became the first state to use electronic
touch-screen voting machines in every one of its precincts. The
51-year-old Jekot, who has a grandmotherly bearing but describes
herself as a "typical computer geek," was initially excited about the
new system.

"I thought it was the coolest thing we could have done," she says.

But the election also brought sweeping victories for Republicans,
including, most stunningly, one for Sonny Perdue, who defeated Roy
Barnes, the incumbent Democrat, to become Georgia's first Republican
governor in 135 years, while Rep. Saxby Chambliss upset Vietnam
veteran Sen. Max Cleland. The convergence of these two developments --
the introduction of new voting machines and the surprising GOP wins --
began to eat away at Roxanne Jekot. Like many of her fellow angry
Democrats on the Internet discussion forums she frequented, she had a
hard time believing the Republicans won legitimately. Instead, Jekot
began searching for her explanation in the source code used in the new
voting machines.

What she found alarmed her.


http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/02/09/voting_machines/

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:40:43 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Online Search Engines Help Lift Cover of Privacy


By Yuki Noguchi
Washington Post Staff Writer

Sitting at his laptop, Chris O'Ferrell types a few words into the
Google search engine and up pops a link to what appears to be a
military document listing suspected Taliban and al Qaeda members, date
of birth, place of birth, passport numbers and national identification
numbers.

Another search yields a spreadsheet of names and credit card numbers.

"All search engines will get you this," O'Ferrell said, pointing to
files of spoils he has found on the Internet: Medical records, bank
account numbers, students' grades, and the docking locations of 804
U.S. Navy ships, submarines and destroyers.

And it is all legal, using the world's most powerful Internet search
engine.

Cybersecurity experts say an increasing number of private or
putatively secret documents are online in out-of-the-way corners of
computers all over the globe, leaving the government, individuals, and
companies vulnerable to security breaches. At some Web sites and
various message groups, techno-hobbyists are even offering
instructions on how to find sensitive documents using a relatively
simple search. Though it does not technically trespass, the practice
is sometimes called "Google hacking."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24053-2004Feb8.html

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And it is all perfectly legal, as it
should be. As we used to say to the movie studios and music producers
who would put their stuff on the public web then whine and cry when 
people would link to them, **do not put your stuff on the public
internet if you do not want it to be seen.**  Remember how a big issue
several years ago was whether or not someone had the 'right' to link
to another site?  Hollywood wanted all the advantages of putting their
crap out on the sidewalk or in the front yard for people to see, but
then complained when 'the wrong people' (in their estimation) took 
what was on display, etc. All anyone has to do is make a web page or
a directory unviewable, or fix it so you have to go through *their*
front door and pay their admission fee, etc. But no, it was easier
to whine and cry about it and throw their weight around with the 
government authorities trying to stop it from happening.

Should there be any government 'secrets'?  Personally, I do not think
so; after all the government is *supposed to* represent you and me. 
But if there has to be secrets, then if you or I can go to a public
library and look up the very same thing (albiet many hours later),
then I think it is particularly obnoxious to hide the very same 
information from the great know-it-all, the computer.  Just my 
opinion.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:41:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Alex Smith wrote:

> Hello all,

> I am venturing into the telephony world and even though I have briefly
> dealt with CTI and H.323, I am still a newbie. I'd like to build an
> application that would allow me to buy apples from several grocery
> stores. (This is a hypothetical but representative example, please
> bear with me). I want to place a telephone call to a number, enter my
> pin, navigate through some voice prompts that will allow me to select
> a particular grocery store, then select a variety of apples and enter
> the amount of apples (weight) I'd like to buy using the phone keypad.
> Finally I would also like to leave voice instructions for the grocer
> on how to pack my apples (paper or plastic). The app would "look me
> up" using my pin number and store the packing instructions as a
> soundbyte along with the other order parameters in a database.

> From a high-level architectural perspective, what hardware and
> software components would make up my stack? For the sake of the
> example, assume small volume (personal use). I am looking for
> high-level architecture rather than product names even though Open
> Source/GNU/etc suggestions are welcome.

> My limited understanding tells me I need a CTI server. Do I need a
> PBX? Other components? If I want to parse the voice instructions (i.e.
> speech recognition) in order to extract "paper" or "plastic", how
> doable is that?

> Any URLs or books that go from slow to complex with architectural
> examples are appreciated.

> Insight LLC

Well,

I'm only familiar with the "high-end" market for this type of thing,
and then only because I had to troubleshoot performance problems
on one such product.

There are products out there which can do both speech recognition
(ASR) and also text-to-speech (TTS).  The two products I can recall
off the top of the head are Speechworks and Nuance, but these software
products are generally sold to resellers who put them on a particular
computer or board and then sell it to you.  (There are other products
on the market which I don't recall, so please, don't take this as an
endorsement of either of these two products.)

You have to provide a "grammar" to these beasts if you have esoteric
things you want to interpret, but grammars for things like numbers,
dates, etc. are usually built in.  A simple grammar to parse something
like "paper" or "plastic" is almost trivial to write, unless you want
to handle regional dialects or other languages at the same time.

There is also a technology (language?) called Voice-XML with which you
can write scripts which parse either the voice utterance or the DTMF
the user entered and take (if-then-else) actions based on that.  There
are several vendors which use this now, but most of their customers
are large service providers who want to charge $$$ for accessing you
horoscope or something like that.

("Please speak your zodiac sign")

Given your example of "apples", you would then have to script the VXML
to do something like:

"Please speak or say 1 for Granny Smith apples, speak or say 2 for
Macintosh apples..." or alternatively ask for the name of the
particular apples they were interested in, in which case you would
have to program the words "Granny Smith" and "Macintosh" into the ASR
grammar.

I suggest doing a search on VXML or Voice XML on the web.

The VXML stuff can run on either Windows or Linux (or other Unix
variants, it's Java-based), and the speech recognition and sythesis
software also can run on Windows or Linux.  These machines/boards have
to be hooked into something which can do call-control (like a PBX).
(Note that if you have a small universe of possibilities you can
probably get away with just playing recordings rather than speech
synthesis, and you probably do not need VXML.)

Also note, that the speech recognition facilities, no matter what the
hype, are limited.  If your application is something like: "Speak the
name of a company and we will provide you the current market quote",
then you can expect the speech recognition to grind away for a
not-insignificant time trying to match your utterance to the name of a
traded company.

Hope this gives you a start.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:59:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Dave Close wrote:

> The problem with the proposed military system and many other net
> voting schemes is that there is no auditability. No one, not even a
> computer, can detect and prove a fraud without that ability. Voting
> via the Net may happen, but many of us won't support it until there is
> a method for conducting an audit.
> 
>        Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA       +1 714 434 7359
>        dave@compata.com              dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu
>     "Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't
>      mean politics won't take an interest in you." - Pericles

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But what I said was about the same
> thing: Run the new system in parallel with the old system *at least*
> for one cycle using the usual audit procedures on the paper system
> to validate the computer system. And if turning the whole thing loose
> on the general public is too difficult at first, then overseas
> military would make a good subset to practice on. PAT]

Audit trails are important in many things, both computer related and
not computer related.  The telephone companies, for example, want to
know which technician changed the settings on their switch in case the
switch takes a Phase 5.  Banking institutions also need simlar
information to reconcile possible accounting discrepancies.

Unfortunately, audit trails and voter privacy may be at opposite ends
of the spectrum when it comes to computer voting.

Is it enough to know that Patrick Townsend cast a vote in order to
ensure the accuracy of the tally?  Probably not.  If this is the case,
then Patrick's actual vote must be recorded.  But then Patrick loses
his anonymity!  Once Patrick loses his anonymity, then all sorts of
*BAD THINGS* may happen when (not if) someone finds out the way
Patrick voted.  (I'm probably preaching to the choir here.)

As to running the systmes in parallel, well, if someone was determined
to undermine the system (hack it), and knew that it would be running
in parallel for some length of time, then they would not hack it until
the the parallel running was suspended, would they not?

Security, accuracy, and convenience may well be at the extreme points
of a triangle and the resultant solution will be to compromise all
three (a little, hopefully), in order to come up with a workable
system.



"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But there are already people who know
if you voted, and to the extent that they need to know, how you
voted. What do you feel government agencies like the Board of Election
Commissioners (to use the Chicago name) are for, if not to try and
govern and manage elections and have some honesty behind them?  Aside
 from being sworn to absolute secrecy (even to the extent of no office
gossiping) with *severe* penalties for violating that trust (losing
their job and their source of monthly welfare would be a total
disaster for most of them, to say nothing about *maybe* going to
jail); most public servants -- or do you pronounce it serpents? --
find elections and the results to be a terrible bore. They've got
their jobs and could really care less what you think of the higher ups
you voted for.  Nah, I would not worry that a handful of public
servants knew how I voted if their job duties required it. And if the
*Chicago Democratic machine* runs a relatively honest Board of
Election Commissioners (not talking now about individual judges or the
candidates, etc) then almost anywhere does.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: 9 Feb 2004 01:20:18 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Telephone Service Surcharges
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


In article <telecom23.62.3@telecom-digest.org> you write:

> Thought c.d.t readers might find this list of surcharges fascinating.

There are indeed a lot of taxes asssessed on phone service but the
doublespeak is quite fascinating:

> Network Access Surcharge Primary Line - (EUCL) $6.50 

> Monthly charge assessed on each line within the household. This charge
> compensates for the Local Telephone Company's cost of installation and
> maintenance of the components that link your home to the telephone
> network.

> Network Access Surcharge Secondary Line - (EUCL) $7.00 (when applicable) 

> Monthly charge assessed on each line within the household. This charge
> compensates for the Local Telephone Company's cost of installation and
> maintenance of the components that link your home to the telephone
> network.

English translation: this is the part of the local bill that's
regulated by the federal FCC rather than the state PUC.  We (the phone
company) keep it all.

> Carrier Cost Recovery Charge (CCRC)* 1.4% 

> A monthly surcharge in order to recover costs the Company incurs with
> regard to Telecommunications Relay Service, national number
> portability, and federal regulatory fees. The surcharge is assessed on
> long distance (Dial-1, Card, P800 and SB T800) state-to-state and
> international charges.

English translation: We don't like paying taxes, and TDD sounds kind
of virtuous, so we're going to pretend that paying this charge is your
responsibility rather than ours.  We (the phone company) keep it all.

> Local Number Portability (LNP) $0.43 

> Covers the cost of providing residential customers with the ability to
> retain, at the same location, their existing local telephone numbers
> when switching from one local provider to another.

English tranlation: We phone companies moaned and groaned so much when
the FCC mandated LNP that they let us add a line to the bill that
looks like a tax but isn't and has only the most tenuous relationship
to the actual cost of upgrading the network for LNP.  We (the phone
company) keep it all.


Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies"
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"A book is a sneeze." - E.B. White, on the writing of Charlotte's Web

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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:52:46 +0400
From: Editor <editor@pressreleasenetwork.com>
Subject: Bluegiga Integrates Wireless Bluetooth and GSM Technologies


PRESS RELEASE NETWORK
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Integration of GSM and Bluetooth technologies in M2M systems increases 
flexibility and decreases costs of data communications

Espoo, Finland - Feb 9, 2004 (PRN): Bluegiga Technologies, a provider
of wireless local area networks and M2M communications systems based
on Bluetooth technology, today announced a design reference confirming
the support of Bluegiga's embeddable WRAP THOR Bluetooth module for
Nokia 12 GSM module.

Bluegiga WRAP THOR and Nokia 12 form the first reference design in the
market to enable the developers of machine-to-machine (M2M) systems to
extend their GSM-based remote management systems with cost-efficient
wireless Bluetooth functionalities.

With Bluetooth technology, remotely monitored M2M systems are
controllable and configurable over Bluetooth links, using either smart
phones like Nokia 6600 based on Symbian Series 60 platform or laptop
PCs. Routing the entire data traffic of a monitored site via Bluetooth
links into a single device with an uplink to the GSM network helps to
minimize the costs of remote operation.

"The design reference is perfectly in line with our strategy to develop 
comprehensive communication solutions based on wireless Bluetooth 
technology," said Tom Nordman, General Manager, Bluegiga Technologies. 
"Nowadays autonomous information systems seldom require on-site monitoring. 
The integration of Bluegiga and Nokia products introduces a smooth and 
cost-efficient solution for remote M2M monitoring."

Targeted to device manufacturers and application developers, the
design reference includes three separate components; a Bluegiga WRAP
THOR Bluetooth module, Bluetooth Java Application Programming
Interfaces for the Nokia 12 GSM module, and hardware reference
designs.

The Bluegiga WRAP THOR is a robust, configurable Bluetooth module 
optimized for embedded applications. It enables device manufacturers (OEMs) 
to easily add a secure and robust wireless communication element in both 
new and existing applications.

The Nokia 12 is a compact and intelligent GSM module for M2M
applications and other wireless solutions. A Nokia M2M Platform
compatible product, the Nokia 12 GSM module can also act as a cellular
modem or be remotely controlled via text messaging. With support for
Java's technology, location services and offering a wide range of
data bearers, the Nokia 12 GSM module makes application development
more cost effective and faster.

Hardware reference designs are available from http://www.bluegiga.com.

About Bluegiga Technologies

Bluegiga Technologies provides wireless local area networks and M2M 
communications systems based on Bluetooth technology. Bluegiga WRAP Access 
Servers integrate Bluetooth-enabled devices as part of a corporate network. 
Bluegiga WRAP THOR Bluetooth modules are robust, lightweight and flexibly 
embeddable. Software configurable for versatile integration, Bluegiga 
products are ideally suited in enterprise proximity access, telemetry, 
remote monitoring and cable replacement applications. Founded in 2000, 
Bluegiga is based in Espoo, Finland and privately held. Bluegiga products 
are globally available via a network of qualified distributors, original 
design manufacturers and system integrators. For further information, 
please visit http://www.bluegiga.com.

Java and all Java-based marks are trademarks or registered trademarks of 
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Bluetooth is a registered Trademark of Bluetooth 
SIG, Inc.

For more information, contact:

Bluegiga Company Contact
Mr. Tom Nordman, General Manager
Tel: +358 9 4124 0450
Email: tom.nordman@bluegiga.com
Website: http://www.bluegiga.com

Bluegiga Agency Contact
Mr. Ile Knnen, Netprofile Finland
Tel: +358 9 6812 080
Email: ile@netprofile.fi


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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 17:41:04 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Nigerians Certainly Getting Agressive!


Over the past two weeks I have received at least a dozen phone calls
 from Nigeria -- of all places! -- from someone claiming to be a top
banking official in that country asking if I wanted to open an 
account in a US bank for him. Quite often the calls arrived when I
was asleep (roughly 3 AM to 8 AM) and sleepily I answered my phone
and without even listening, told the caller to try back at a more
civilized hour. Twice I did not catch the phone soon enough and it
rolled over to voicemail. Once I was talking to someone and let it
just go to voicemail. The person never left any voicemail messages.

Once I was coming out of Marvins with several sacks of groceries and
told the caller to try me again later. Each time he was calling from
Nigeria. Each time he sounded like a typical telemarketer, that is
began with saying 'hello Mr. Townson, how are you today' or once I
was 'Patrick' rather than 'Mr. Townson'. But he never would volunteer
who he was until (each time) I rather sharply asked who he was and
what he wanted, then he would pause, think about it and give me the
'bank officer' routine. You see, they are not allowed to open any
accounts in foreign countries, and need help to do that, which is 
where I was to come into the picture and be of help.  

At least a dozen attempts over a week or two!  Now you know he is
not paying for all those calls, every one of them is most likely fraud.
Even today, I was a little bit peeved with the interupption to my work
when he called, so I did not think clearly.  But if he calls again,
which I hope he does, I'll play his game with him. I'll provide him
with a bogus social security number, a good post office box address
(of my own) and invite him to send his money order or cashiers check
or whatever for negotiation on this end. I've mentioned it to the 
manager at our bank here, she said if such a thing arrives to just
give it to her, she will try to get us something out of it. 

I never thought those Nigerians would actually resort to using the
phone to find new suckers however, certainly not at the rate of 
several international phone calls over two weeks.


PAT

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:04:06 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Broadband In The Sky


Ten O'Clock Tech

Arik Hesseldahl, 02.06.04, 10:00 AM ET

NEW YORK - There's only so much a business traveler can accomplish 
with a notebook computer that is not connected to the Internet.

Airlines like JetBlue (nasdaq: JBLU - news - people ) can bring you 
in-flight satellite TV service, but aircraft manufacturer Boeing 
(nyse: BA - news - people ) is trying to figure how to bring 
in-flight Internet access via satellite.

Some business travelers see their travel time as a gift; others see 
it as an obstacle to productivity. A good deal of the design 
attributes of many notebook PCs from vendors like IBM (nyse: IBM - 
news - people ), Gateway (nyse: GTW - news - people ) and Dell 
(nasdaq: DELL - news - people ), as well as Intel's (nasdaq: INTC - 
news - people ) Centrino chip platform, aim to maximize the hours of 
use out of a notebook computer while on a long flight.

Beginning in April, a unit of Boeing called Connexion by Boeing will 
launch a service that brings broadband Internet access aboard certain 
flights with airlines like Lufthansa, Japan Airlines, British Airways 
(nyse: BAB - news - people ) and others.


http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/2004/02/06/cx_ah_0206tentech.html

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:09:32 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: A Camera Phone That Turns Heads


Ten O'Clock Tech

Arik Hesseldahl, 02.09.04, 10:00 AM ET

NEW YORK - When we saw the LG Electronics VX-6000 used in an
advertisement on a giant video screen in New York's Times Square, we
figured it was time to try it out.

For the most part, the camera-phone craze has been a Global System for
Mobile Communications affair. The best phones with integrated digital
cameras come from companies like Nokia (nyse: NOK - news - people )
and Sony Ericsson, the joint venture of Sony (nyse: SNE - news -
people ) and Ericsson (nasdaq: ERICY - news - people ) and are aimed
at carriers who use the GSM standard, which dominates Europe.  GSM
carriers in the U.S. include AT&T Wireless (nyse: AWE - news - people
), T-Mobile, a unit of Deutsch Telekon (nyse: DT - news - people ),
and Cingular Wireless, a joint venture of SBC Communications (nyse:
SBC - news - people ) and BellSouth (nyse: BLS - news - people ).

But the dominant network standard in the U.S. is Code Division
Multiple Access. And the two main CDMA carriers in the U.S. are Sprint
PCS (nyse: PCS - news - people ) and Verizon Wireless, a joint venture
between Verizon (nyse: VZ - news - people ) and Vodafone (nyse: VOD -
news - people ). And, generally speaking, camera phones on CDMA
networks have been a little less impressive than those on the GSM
networks. While they may work about as well as their GSM competitors,
they haven't done so with the sleek fashion-phone cachet.

LG Electronics, the South Korean manufacturing giant, has changed that
with the VX6000, which is available from Verizon Wireless. It's a
clamshell shaped phone that weighs less than four ounces. It looks
cool, and it's easy to use.

http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/2004/02/09/cx_ah_0209tentech.html

------------------------------

From: rlawrence@promemoinc.com (Centigramparts.com)
Subject: Help on Centigram, Baypoint Innovations & Mitel NuPoint Messenger?
Date: 9 Feb 2004 17:13:45 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


My name is Ron Lawrence and my company is ProMemo, Inc ...
 
ProMemo, Inc. has been working on Centigram Voicemail equipment for
over 21 years now.  We continue to stock parts for all Legacy systems
like Power Supplies, Hard Drives, CPU's and Line Cards.  We also have
Software too, in case you are missing a certain diskette or require an
extra cost feature.

So whether you are a Service Bureau or CPE, we will continue to stock
the equipment you need for your NEW and Legacy Voicemail systems.
 
Take a peek at our Interactive web-site www.promemoinc.com or
www.centigramparts.com or www.baypointinnovations.com and you will see
just how focused we are to the Centigram platform.  Also, in one week,
we will be adding the Technical Documentation Manual for you to
access, and at no extra charge ... check-it out.

ProMemo, Inc.
email: rlawrence@promemoinc.com
web: www.promemoinc.com
web: www.centigramparts.com
web: www.baypointinnovations.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Welcome to the Digest readership, Mr. 
Lawrence. Are there any newsgroups for voicemail equipment and/or




software?  Although this Digest is not usually used for commercial
messages as such, many of our readers either operate or administer
voicemail systems, so I thought maybe your message might be a way
for them to update their list of contacts, etc.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: rochoa@allcovered.com (Ryan Ochoa)
Subject: Record Two Telephone Lines to One PC
Date: 9 Feb 2004 11:53:47 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I'm looking for a device or instructions on how to record ALL
telephone conversations from a jack with TWO telephone numbers to my
PC. I would like to have an all in one device, but I could use two
modems if neccessary.

Any help is much appreciated.

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Recording the VCR's Swan Song
Reply-To: cnavarro@wcnet.org
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:24:39 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:16:59 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> Second, there's that bit about "cheap." Everybody knows that set-top 
> DVD recorders are expensive. The best ones include a hard drive for 
> TiVo-like flexibility but cost $600 and up. DVD-only models start at 
> $400 or so. Logic and pundits have long maintained that the VCR's 
> funeral rites won't begin in earnest until DVD-recorder prices fall 
> below $300 -- and now they have, led by Gateway's AR-230 and a few 
> rivals from lesser-known companies.

I came close to biting on the latest Wal~Mart offering, the Apex 9000
for about $269.  The reviews are horrible.  WM also has a "Cyber-home"
unit for $248.

At some point in time, we'll just need the VCR to play existing tapes
into the DVD recorder one time for copying :-)


Carl Navarro

------------------------------

Date: 09 Feb 2004 16:02:51 EST
From: Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles B. Wilber)
Subject: Re: Building a Voice Driven Application


Nick,

Did you possibly mean to write "press or say" instead of "speak or
say?" I don't see the difference between "speaking" and "saying"
something.

Charlie Wilber
Dartmouth College


Nick Landsberg wrote:

> "Please speak or say 1 for Granny Smith apples, speak or say 2 for
> Macintosh apples..." or alternatively ask for the name of the
> particular apples they were interested in, in which case you would
> have to program the words "Granny Smith" and "Macintosh" into the ASR
> grammar".

------------------------------

Reply-To: BobGoudreau@not-your.biz
From: BobGoudreau@not-your.biz <BobGoudreau@not-your.biz
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:49:13 -0500


[Please obscure my email address.  Thank you.]

Rodgers Platt wrote:

> We are beating a dead horse, but if the person having the PDA never
> performs a backup or transfer -- when was the last time you backed up
> the contents of your PC's hard disk -- the data is still lost.

> Every office I visit has at least a copier or fax machine that
> would allow a sheet of notes or sketches to be copied and shared if
> need be.

But I'm willing to bet that far more PDA users than Daytimer users
actually do back up their data.  It's pretty easy for me to back up my
Palm Pilot (which is also my phone) by slipping it into its charging
cradle, pressing the "sync" button and waiting 30 seconds -- so easy
that I do it almost daily.  In fact, anyone who wants to have a shared
appointment book (say, between their phone or PDA and MS Outlook on
their PC) will be happy to do this regularly.

In comparison, flipping through a daytimer to find all the pages that
have changed since the last backup and then photocopying them is quite
a chore.


Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Dear Bob, I hope obscuring your address
by putting you in the '.biz' domain (?) was sufficient. PAT]

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: Comcast Has Limits For Heavy Internet Users
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:35:30 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And how often do you ever see an ISP
> who will give you a shell if you ask for one. They're deathly afraid
> of what havoc you might cause if you had a shell account.  PAT]

In point of fact there are lots of services selling (and in at least
one case, giving away) shell accounts. But why does it matter anyway?
On real operating systems, your own computer's shell can do all the
same things a shell account used to do, and even better because you
can compile your own command line programs. *

* PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
       like corkscrews.

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:37:57 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But there are already people who know
> if you voted, and to the extent that they need to know, how you
> voted. What do you feel government agencies like the Board of Election

What? Unless you're not talking about national elections, nobody
should be able to determine how you voted. Do you let your election
judge shoulder surf while you're voting or something? 

* -- * PV something like badgers -- something like lizards -- and
something like corkscrews.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No I do not allow the judge of election
to shoulder surf. Anyway, its not their business. Judges of election
and precinct captains and others of that ilk have no business knowing
anything about *how* you voted; only that you did (you signed the 
register when you went in or did not sign it. Either you have
officially voted -- per the register -- or you have not yet voted. The
judges of election (ordinarily two of one party and one of the other
party, or one each of three parties) have the jobs of examining your
identification (to qualify your residence, etc for voting); prohibiting
electioneering (the illegal practice of campaigning for candidates or
parties within a certain distance of the polling place; usually fifty
or one hundred feet, including the distribution of literature in the
same distance); giving instruction on voting (on request of the voter
only) and giving assistance in voting with a second or third judge of
the opposite party present, again, on request of the voter. 

For example, I go to vote and ask the judges of election "how do I use
this machine?"  That is called 'instruction' and any judge can
instruct me in using the voting apparatus. Other judges present, along
with the polling place observers, will hear the judge instructing
me. If the judge's instructions include 'pull lever four for straight
Democratic ticket' for example, the Republican judge or the polling
place observers might protest. If I state that I am handicapped, and
need help in voting, then *two judges* -- one of each party -- will
escort me to the voting booth. They will stand beside me while one of
the two explains the apparatus and asks me about my choices. If I say
I wish to vote straight Republican for example, then the *Democratic*
judge will say to the Republican judge, 'Mr. Townson wishes to vote
straight Republican' and as the three of us observe, the Democratic
judge will pull the lever/push the button, etc if I am physically
unable to do so because of my physical handicap. If you say you don't
know anything about politics, don't care, etc then the judge will say
'just pull one of the levers.' They will pressure you to get off the
pot, so to speak and say something so they can observe each other
doing what they heard you say.

That's all the judges of election do: maintain an orderly process,
advise as requested and help as requested. Precinct captains are not
supposed to be there at all; no loitering allowed at the polling
place.  And the youthful, idealistic poll watchers (who do get to hang
around all day, and are appointed by the minority candidates) won't
hesitate to speak up and say 'objection, judge' if one or more of the
judges of election say or do something improper. When one of the
observers or another judge call an objection, all ears perk up and
everyone starts watching and listening closely. And whenever there is
a request for 'help in voting' (as opposed for example to a request
for 'instruction') then the judge who deals first with the request for
help must say in a relatively loud and conspicuous voice 'voter needs
help' or maybe one of the poll watchers will say it for him. Then like
before, everyone stops, looks and listens. Most voters do not need any
help, the curtain has to go closed before the machine will operate,
and all votes (except the rare 'assisted in voting') are done in
private.

Before the election begins, an employee of the Board has to go around
to each polling place, remove the locks from the machines, cast a
'sample vote' for each candidate to assure each machine is functioning
properly, etc.  Sample votes are later deducted from the total votes.

An aquaintence of mine in Chicago who is employed by the Board of
Election Commissioners said to me, "The people objecting the most to
computerized voting do not realize how easy by comparison it is to
rig the old mechanical machines, if that's your thing, if you don't
object to a stay in Joliet Penitentiary for a couple years. While the
computerized systems *are* more sophisticated and difficult to tamper
with short of being a 'computer hacker' (his term), yes, it can be 
done, but not to the extent the old mechanical systems were diddled
with.

So who would know about your vote short of shoulder surfing? Well all
the absentee ballots have to be imput into the machinery also, even
the electromechanical apparatus if not the computerized stuff. Many
folks can 'cheat' with your vote if that's their thing; most are just
droids working at their jobs and don't care either way.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:14:37 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


I originally wrote:

[much snipped]

> Is it enough to know that Patrick Townsend cast a vote in order to
> ensure the accuracy of the tally?  Probably not.  If this is the case,
> then Patrick's actual vote must be recorded.  But then Patrick loses
> his anonymity!  Once Patrick loses his anonymity, then all sorts of
> *BAD THINGS* may happen when (not if) someone finds out the way
> Patrick voted.  (I'm probably preaching to the choir here.)

> As to running the systmes in parallel, well, if someone was determined
> to undermine the system (hack it), and knew that it would be running
> in parallel for some length of time, then they would not hack it until
> the the parallel running was suspended, would they not?
> 
> Security, accuracy, and convenience may well be at the extreme points
> of a triangle and the resultant solution will be to compromise all
> three (a little, hopefully), in order to come up with a workable
> system.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But there are already people who know
> if you voted, and to the extent that they need to know, how you
> voted. What do you feel government agencies like the Board of Election
> Commissioners (to use the Chicago name) are for, if not to try and
> govern and manage elections and have some honesty behind them?  Aside
>  from being sworn to absolute secrecy (even to the extent of no office
> gossiping) with *severe* penalties for violating that trust (losing
> their job and their source of monthly welfare would be a total
> disaster for most of them, to say nothing about *maybe* going to
> jail); most public servants -- or do you pronounce it serpents? --
> find elections and the results to be a terrible bore. They've got
> their jobs and could really care less what you think of the higher ups
> you voted for.  Nah, I would not worry that a handful of public
> servants knew how I voted if their job duties required it. And if the
> *Chicago Democratic machine* runs a relatively honest Board of
> Election Commissioners (not talking now about individual judges or the
> candidates, etc) then almost anywhere does.   PAT]

Patrick, you may have missed my point.  It is one thing to have the
board of elections folks know how you voted, it is quite another thing,
in my mind, to have any random "hacker" know how you voted.

Maybe I'm too paranoid, but my parents escaped from a communist
country where your ballot was "inspected" before being cast.  I
consider the concept of "secret ballot" as one of the great strengths
of true democratic systems because of that.

How would YOU feel if your local sherrif made a call on you and said
"I notice you didn't vote for me, Pat.  I'm disappointed in you."?  Or
if the union steward mentioned that you didn't vote for candidate the
union had endorsed?  Or your employer did the same thing, if you were
non-union?

As far as I am concerned, the current level of so-called security in
these computerized voting systems is sorely lacking.

In a paper system, one can (however painfully) take the anonymous
ballots and retally them.  There is a "paper trail" which does not
reveal the voter's identity but can be used to verify the accuracy of
the count.  Certainly, one can claim to be a person whose name you got
from a gravestone in the local cemetary and cast a false ballot
(Definition of Chicago voting: "Vote early and often!")

With computerized systems, there are many more places where fraud can
be introduced, including the hacker who changes the totals in a disk
file without leaving any trail of his/her actions.  To avoid this,
there should be a way of independently recreating the tally.  How?

If the system keeps a trail of how everyone voted, then that same
hacker could copy that set of files to his/her machine and decipher
that information and you may well be into the scenarios I mentioned
above.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Probably everyone's background
detirmines how they come down on this issue. Your parents coming from
a communist country had every reason to be concerned. But remember,
people in Chicago, with the 'vote early and often' mentality also have
good reasons to be leary of the old combination paper and
electromechanical system and the mounds of fraud that go on with
that. I was a polling place observer in Chicago for several years,
beginning back in the 1960's when one of the poll-watchers' jobs was
to make certain that black and other minority people were allowed to
vote. The judges of election were forever playing games, and precinct
captains (invariably Democratic) were always driving chartered busses
to the polling places full of old (white) people from the nursing
homes and *escorting them into the little booths to 'help them' cast
the right votes, etc.*

You could object all you wanted to as a polling place watcher, they
did not care; when the precinct captain sassed at you and said he was
going to stand there anyway, and glare at you, maybe you got some help
from the Republican judge -- if there was a Republican judge there --
they were in such short supply many times the Board had to recruit
excess Democratic judges from precincts where there were too many and
deputize them to be a *Republican* judge in that one instance for that
one day only. And in the 1960's they would not even let a poll watcher
in to observe if he seemed to be in sympathy with Martin Luther King,
especially after the Democrats had their riot at the 1968 convention.
I and many others got gassed and beaten up by the Chicago Police in
that sordid affair. Maybe that tear gas is what affected my brain
desease so badly now, eh? So, for about 40 years I kept praying and
hoping for a day when computers would be used to decide all elections
in an impartial way. Now you see where I am coming from, and I see 
where you are at also.  The Board of Election Commissioners in Chicago
at least never hesitates these days to fire any employee who screws
around with the election or violates their trust, etc. Sadly, it was
not always that way. PAT]

------------------------------

From: CAUGHLIN, WILLIAM D (SBCSI) <wc2942@sbc.com>
Subject: New Book: Photographic History of Ameritech
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:54:10 -0600 


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A repeat of an earlier message from a
previous issue, in case you missed seeing it earlier.  I don't mean
to be a bore on this.  PAT]

Dear Pat:

I would be delighted to send you a copy of the book that I co-authored
in 1999.  It is nearly 4-1/2 years old, but has never been reviewed.
I am copying Ilana Pergam (now at the Leo Burnett Archives in
Chicago), who was a co-author, too.

Sincerely,

Bill

William D. Caughlin
Corporate Archivist
SBC Communications Inc.
Archives and History Center
7990 IH-10 West, Floor 1
San Antonio, Texas 78230
Tel: (210) 524-6192
Fax: (210) 321-5577
E-mail: wc2942@sbc.com

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: See the coupon in issue 64 to order
this book from the publisher, SBC Services, Inc.   PAT]

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    Re: NEC and Centigram Help From www.ProMemoInc.com (Centigramparts.com)
    Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application (Lynn)
    Re: Building a Voice Driven Application (Nick Landsberg)
    VoIP Behind D-Link DI-614+ (Brent)
    Int Journal of Info Technology & Decision Making - Vol 2 No 4 (YH Khoo)
    Wireline Switch and IS-41 (Mehul)
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From: rlawrence@promemoinc.com (Centigramparts.com)
Subject: Re: NEC and Centigram Help From www.ProMemoInc.com
Date: 9 Feb 2004 17:40:56 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One of our newer contributors here in
the Digest has sent along a rather lengthy file which is a configur-
ation for voicemail equipment. It is quite long, but might be very
useful to some people.   PAT]

tvargas@networld.com (Tvargas) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.16.6@telecom-digest.org>:

> Has anyone ever integrated a NEC 2000 IVS system to a Centigram Model
> 70 Voicemail system? If so, how was your template configured?

Regarding your Centigram Model 70 system and the NEC 2000 IVS. I
understand you are curious to see how the template was configured.

I can help ...

We have experience integrating to EVERY PBX with EVERY LEVEL of
Centigram Equipment. We have over 21 years behind us and we're ready
for another 21 years ahead.  We even stock parts for ALL the Centigram
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ALSO, in one week, we will have the complete technical manual Release
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THIS IS QUITE LONG and I would be happy to email it directly to you or
anyone, just let me know...

                           >>> www.promemoinc.com <<<
                         >>> www.centigramparts.com <<<
                      >>> www.baypointinnovations.com <<<

           
                            SYSTEM CONFIGURATION
                           Mon Feb 9 14:29:44 2004

VOICEMEMO SYSTEM CONFIGURATION

Group #1: "NEC 2400"
 Module 1: Lines 9:0 9:1 9:2 9:3 9:4 9:5 9:6 9:7 9:8 9:9 9:10 9:11 9:12
                 9:13 9:14 9:15 9:16 9:17 9:18 9:19 9:20 9:21 9:22 9:23
                 12:0 12:1 12:2 12:3 12:4 12:5 12:6 12:7 12:8 12:9 12:10
                 12:11 12:12 12:13 12:14 12:15 12:16 12:17 12:18 12:19
                 12:20 12:21 12:22 12:23

           Fax Conn: Fax Group 1 (4 channels serving 48 lines)
           Voice Recognition Conn: <none>
 Module 2: Lines 9:0 9:1 9:2 9:3 9:4 9:5 9:6 9:7 9:8 9:9 9:10 9:11 9:12
                 9:13 9:14 9:15 9:16 9:17 9:18 9:19 9:20 9:21 9:22 9:23
                 12:0 12:1 12:2 12:3 12:4 12:5 12:6 12:7 12:8 12:9 12:10
                 12:11 12:12 12:13 12:14 12:15 12:16 12:17 12:18 12:19
                 12:20 12:21 12:22 12:23
           Fax Conn: Fax Group 2 (4 channels serving 48 lines)
           Voice Recognition Conn: <none>
 Module 3: Lines 9:0 9:1 9:2 9:3 9:4 9:5 9:6 9:7 9:8 9:9 9:10 9:11 9:12
                 9:13 9:14 9:15 9:16 9:17 9:18 9:19 9:20 9:21 9:22 9:23
                 12:0 12:1 12:2 12:3 12:4 12:5 12:6 12:7 12:8 12:9 12:10
                 12:11 12:12 12:13 12:14 12:15 12:16 12:17 12:18 12:19
                 12:20 12:21 12:22 12:23
           Fax Conn: <none>
           Voice Recognition Conn: <none>
 Application = [NEC 2400]
  Call Agent Interface
  Dial plan = [1,5,A,5,5,V,5,5,5]
  Star Prefix Dplan, Dial By Name = [3]
  Administrator mbox # = [99998]
  General Greeting mbox # = []
  Attendant mbox # = [99999]
  Transfer Call Box # = []
  Wait Prompt = [Y]
  Caller multiple messages enabled = [Y]
  KEY_0 for attendant transfer during greeting = [Y]
  Disconnect string = []
  Pre-company name string = []
  Pre-mailbox greeting string = []
  Passcode Length  Min = [4], Max = [10], Language = [English]
  "6" Key Operator Transfer Dial String = []
  "6" Key Operator Transfer pre-Dial String = []
  Start of day = [08:00 AM], End of day = [05:00 PM], Days of Week =
[DDDDDNN]
  Passcode trip count = [5],  Passcode trip period = [24]
  Dial-by-name: Last First = [Y], Match Threshold = [3], Exact = [Y]
                Suppress Number = [N], Single Digit Access = [N]
  Delay Before Answer = [50]
  E-mail Transfer String = []
  Allow Dial an Extension for callers = [Y], users = [Y]
  Analog Networking: Call Setup timeout = [6]
     International Access Code = [], Country code = []
     Area/City code = [], 1plus dialing = []
     Area/City code is dialed with Local Telephone Number = [N]
     Telephone number = [], Loop-back Test Mailbox = []
  Name Greet Quality = [18], Message Quality = [18]
  Serial Port  $cti1
  Attendant's extension = []
  Pre DN or attendant xfer string = [S+]
  NEC 2400 STATIONS :
   [0025296(1:09:00), 0025297(1:09:01), 0025298(1:09:02),
0025299(1:09:03)]
   [0025300(1:09:04), 0025301(1:09:05), 0025302(1:09:06),
0025303(1:09:07)]
   [0025304(1:09:08), 0025305(1:09:09), 0025306(1:09:10),
0025307(1:09:11)]
   [0025308(1:09:12), 0025309(1:09:13), 0025310(1:09:14),
0025311(1:09:15)]
   [0025312(1:09:16), 0025313(1:09:17), 0025314(1:09:18),
0025315(1:09:19)]
   [0025316(1:09:20), 0025317(1:09:21), 0025318(1:09:22),
0025319(1:09:23)]
   [0025320(1:12:00), 0025321(1:12:01), 0025322(1:12:02),
0025323(1:12:03)]
   [0025324(1:12:04), 0025325(1:12:05), 0025326(1:12:06),
0025327(1:12:07)]
   [0025328(1:12:08), 0025329(1:12:09), 0025330(1:12:10),
0025331(1:12:11)]
   [0025332(1:12:12), 0025333(1:12:13), 0025334(1:12:14),
0025335(1:12:15)]
   [0025336(1:12:16), 0025337(1:12:17), 0025338(1:12:18),
0025339(1:12:19)]
   [0025340(1:12:20), 0025341(1:12:21), 0025342(1:12:22),
0025343(1:12:23)]
   [0025248(2:09:00), 0025249(2:09:01), 0025250(2:09:02),
0025251(2:09:03)]
   [0025252(2:09:04), 0025253(2:09:05), 0025254(2:09:06),
0025255(2:09:07)]
   [0025256(2:09:08), 0025257(2:09:09), 0025258(2:09:10),
0025259(2:09:11)]
   [0025260(2:09:12), 0025261(2:09:13), 0025262(2:09:14),
0025263(2:09:15)]
   [0025264(2:09:16), 0025265(2:09:17), 0025266(2:09:18),
0025267(2:09:19)]
   [0025268(2:09:20), 0025269(2:09:21), 0025270(2:09:22),
0025271(2:09:23)]
   [0025272(2:12:00), 0025273(2:12:01), 0025274(2:12:02),
0025275(2:12:03)]
   [0025276(2:12:04), 0025277(2:12:05), 0025278(2:12:06),
0025279(2:12:07)]
   [0025280(2:12:08), 0025281(2:12:09), 0025282(2:12:10),
0025283(2:12:11)]
   [0025284(2:12:12), 0025285(2:12:13), 0025286(2:12:14),
0025287(2:12:15)]
   [0025288(2:12:16), 0025289(2:12:17), 0025290(2:12:18),
0025291(2:12:19)]
   [0025292(2:12:20), 0025293(2:12:21), 0025294(2:12:22),
0025295(2:12:23)]
   [0075005(3:09:00), 0025200(3:09:01), 0025201(3:09:02),
0025202(3:09:03)]
   [0025203(3:09:04), 0025204(3:09:05), 0025205(3:09:06),
0025206(3:09:07)]
   [0025207(3:09:08), 0025208(3:09:09), 0025209(3:09:10),
0025210(3:09:11)]
   [0025211(3:09:12), 0025212(3:09:13), 0025213(3:09:14),
0025214(3:09:15)]
   [0025216(3:09:16), 0025217(3:09:17), 0025218(3:09:18),
0025219(3:09:19)]
   [0025220(3:09:20), 0025221(3:09:21), 0025222(3:09:22),
0025223(3:09:23)]
   [0025224(3:12:00), 0025225(3:12:01), 0025226(3:12:02),
0025227(3:12:03)]
   [0025228(3:12:04), 0025229(3:12:05), 0025230(3:12:06),
0025231(3:12:07)]
   [0025232(3:12:08), 0025233(3:12:09), 0025234(3:12:10),
0025235(3:12:11)]
   [0025236(3:12:12), 0025237(3:12:13), 0025238(3:12:14),
0025239(3:12:15)]
   [0025240(3:12:16), 0025241(3:12:17), 0025242(3:12:18),
0025243(3:12:19)]
   [0025244(3:12:20), 0025245(3:12:21), 0025246(3:12:22),
0025247(3:12:23)]
NAME: NEC2400
DESCRIPTION: Template for NEC-2400 Feature-2 ETI with XON/XOFF
Installation Date: Tue Feb  2 10:56:34 1999
Last Modify Date:  Mon Apr 19 11:16:10 1999
      T1: "/B0!J", ,
    Next: 2 3 4
 Comment: Packet header
      T2: "0" X2 p5 "   ", ,
    Next: 5 6 7 8 9 10
 Comment: VM message
      T3: X11 "39" X19, S,
    Next:
 Comment: XON, suspend sending MWI, ignore the reset of the packet
      T4: X11 "66" X19, T,
    Next:
 Comment: XOFF, resume sending MWI, ignore the reset of the packet
      T5: "40", zV3,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Ring No Answer call
      T6: "41", zV4,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Busy No Answer call
      T7: "42", zV2,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: All call
      T8: "43", zV1,
    Next: 12 13 17
 Comment: Direct call
      T9: "44", zV5,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Attendant call
      T10: "45", zV5,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Outsider call
      T11: "0" X2 s5 " ", ,
    Next: 14 15 16
 Comment: Get calling ext.
      T12: "2" X2 X6, ,
    Next: 14 15 16
 Comment: Calling ext. is a trunk, ignore ext.
      T13: "1" X8, ,
    Next: 14 15 16
 Comment: Calling ext. is an attendant, ignore it
      T14: "0" X2 d5 " /C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Get called ext.
      T15: "1" X8 "/C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Called ext. is an attendant, ignore ext.
      T16: "2" X8 "/C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Called ext. is a trunk, ignore ext.
      T17: "0" X2 d5 " ", ,
    Next: 15 16 18
 Comment: Get calling ext. for direct call
      T18: "0" X2 s5 " /C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Get called ext. for direct call
  MWI ON: "/B0!B2" m5 "       01/C"
 MWI OFF: "/B0!B6" m5 "       01/C"
Link Alive:
Extra 1: P " "
Extra 2:
Group #2: "OUTCALL PAGING by www.promemoinc.com"
 Module 1: Lines 13:0 13:1 13:2
           Fax Conn: <none>
           Voice Recognition Conn: <none>
 Application = [PAGER DIALER]
  Dial plan = [3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3]
  Administrator mbox # = [998]
  General Greeting mbox # = []
  Attendant mbox # = [999]
  Wait Prompt = [Y]
  Caller multiple messages enabled = [Y]
  KEY_0 for attendant transfer during greeting = [N]
  Disconnect string = []
  Pre-company name string = []
  Pre-mailbox greeting string = []
  Passcode Length  Min = [4], Max = [10], Language = [English]
  "6" Key Operator Transfer Dial String = []
  "6" Key Operator Transfer pre-Dial String = []
  Start of day = [08:00 AM], End of day = [05:00 PM], Days of Week =
[DDDDDNN]
  Passcode trip count = [5],  Passcode trip period = [24]
  Dial-by-name: Last First = [Y], Match Threshold = [3], Exact = [Y]
                Suppress Number = [N], Single Digit Access = [N]
  Delay Before Answer = [50]
  E-mail Transfer String = []
  Allow Dial an Extension for callers = [N], users = [N]
  Analog Networking: Call Setup timeout = [6]
     International Access Code = [], Country code = []
     Area/City code = [], 1plus dialing = []
     Area/City code is dialed with Local Telephone Number = [N]
     Telephone number = [], Loop-back Test Mailbox = []
  Name Greet Quality = [], Message Quality = []
  Attendant's extension = [0]
  Pre DN or attendant xfer string = [S+]
  Supports pager systems:
    [0] = "PROMEMOINC.COM PAGING"
    [1] = <no pager name>
    [2] = <no pager name>
    [3] = <no pager name>
    [4] = <no pager name>
    [5] = <no pager name>
    [6] = <no pager name>
    [7] = <no pager name>
    [8] = <no pager name>
    [9] = <no pager name>
    [10] = <no pager name>
    [11] = <no pager name>
    [12] = <no pager name>
    [13] = <no pager name>
    [14] = <no pager name>
    [15] = <no pager name>
Group #3: "CALL AGENT"  --No lines assigned
 Application = [NEC 2400]
  Call Agent Interface
  Dial plan = [3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3]
  Administrator mbox # = [998]
  General Greeting mbox # = []
  Attendant mbox # = [999]
  Transfer Call Box # = []
  Wait Prompt = [Y]
  Caller multiple messages enabled = [Y]
  KEY_0 for attendant transfer during greeting = [N]
  Disconnect string = []
  Pre-company name string = []
  Pre-mailbox greeting string = []
  Passcode Length  Min = [4], Max = [10], Language = [English]
  "6" Key Operator Transfer Dial String = []
  "6" Key Operator Transfer pre-Dial String = []
  Start of day = [08:00 AM], End of day = [05:00 PM], Days of Week =
[DDDDDNN]
  Passcode trip count = [5],  Passcode trip period = [24]
  Dial-by-name: Last First = [Y], Match Threshold = [3], Exact = [Y]
                Suppress Number = [N], Single Digit Access = [N]
  Delay Before Answer = [50]
  E-mail Transfer String = []
  Allow Dial an Extension for callers = [N], users = [N]
  Analog Networking: Call Setup timeout = [6]
     International Access Code = [], Country code = []
     Area/City code = [], 1plus dialing = []
     Area/City code is dialed with Local Telephone Number = [N]
     Telephone number = [], Loop-back Test Mailbox = []
  Name Greet Quality = [], Message Quality = []
  No serial port selected, Application Disabled
  Attendant's extension = [0]
  Pre DN or attendant xfer string = [S+]
  <No lines assigned!>
NAME: NEC2400
DESCRIPTION: Template for NEC-2400 Feature-2 ETI with XON/XOFF
Installation Date: Tue Feb  2 10:56:34 1999
Last Modify Date:  Mon Apr 19 11:16:10 1999
      T1: "/B0!J", ,
    Next: 2 3 4
 Comment: Packet header
      T2: "0" X2 p5 "   ", ,
    Next: 5 6 7 8 9 10
 Comment: VM message
      T3: X11 "39" X19, S,
    Next:
 Comment: XON, suspend sending MWI, ignore the reset of the packet
      T4: X11 "66" X19, T,
    Next:
 Comment: XOFF, resume sending MWI, ignore the reset of the packet
      T5: "40", zV3,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Ring No Answer call
      T6: "41", zV4,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Busy No Answer call
      T7: "42", zV2,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: All call
      T8: "43", zV1,
    Next: 12 13 17
 Comment: Direct call
      T9: "44", zV5,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Attendant call
      T10: "45", zV5,
    Next: 11 12 13
 Comment: Outsider call
      T11: "0" X2 s5 " ", ,
    Next: 14 15 16
 Comment: Get calling ext.
      T12: "2" X2 X6, ,
    Next: 14 15 16
 Comment: Calling ext. is a trunk, ignore ext.
      T13: "1" X8, ,
    Next: 14 15 16
 Comment: Calling ext. is an attendant, ignore it
      T14: "0" X2 d5 " /C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Get called ext.
      T15: "1" X8 "/C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Called ext. is an attendant, ignore ext.
      T16: "2" X8 "/C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Called ext. is a trunk, ignore ext.
      T17: "0" X2 d5 " ", ,
    Next: 15 16 18
 Comment: Get calling ext. for direct call
      T18: "0" X2 s5 " /C", Z,
    Next:
 Comment: Get called ext. for direct call
  MWI ON: "/B0!B2" m5 "       01/C"
 MWI OFF: "/B0!B6" m5 "       01/C"
Link Alive:
Extra 1: P " "
Extra 2:
Group #4: "TEST T1"  --No lines assigned
 Application = [VOICEMEMO FROM PROMEMO]
  Dial plan = [3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3]
  Administrator mbox # = [998]
  General Greeting mbox # = []
  Attendant mbox # = [999]
  Wait Prompt = [Y]
  Caller multiple messages enabled = [Y]
  KEY_0 for attendant transfer during greeting = [N]
  Disconnect string = []
  Pre-company name string = []
  Pre-mailbox greeting string = []
  Passcode Length  Min = [4], Max = [10], Language = [English]
  "6" Key Operator Transfer Dial String = []
  "6" Key Operator Transfer pre-Dial String = []
  Start of day = [08:00 AM], End of day = [05:00 PM], Days of Week =
[DDDDDNN]
  Passcode trip count = [5],  Passcode trip period = [24]
  Dial-by-name: Last First = [Y], Match Threshold = [3], Exact = [Y]
                Suppress Number = [N], Single Digit Access = [N]
  Delay Before Answer = [50]
  E-mail Transfer String = []
  Allow Dial an Extension for callers = [N], users = [N]
  Analog Networking: Call Setup timeout = [6]
     International Access Code = [], Country code = []
     Area/City code = [], 1plus dialing = []
     Area/City code is dialed with Local Telephone Number = [N]
     Telephone number = [], Loop-back Test Mailbox = []
  Name Greet Quality = [], Message Quality = []
  Attendant's extension = [0]
  Pre DN or attendant xfer string = [S+]
Group #99:      
www.promemoinc.com
www.baypointinnovations.com
www.centigramparts.com

End of Group Info

Pager Systems:
 Pager System [0], Pager Name = "ProMemoInc PAGING"
  Access code = [T], Hold time = [20]
SO Tag string = [CSOIO-I]
SO Release = [VM6.00]
SOIO Continuous Integration = DISABLED
     TCP/IP System Wide Host Configuration
     -------------------------------------
             Domain name: www.promemoinc.com
H  C  M  S
o  a  o  l  N
s  r  d  o  e
t  d  e  t  t      IP Address       Host Name     Port Irq Vendor
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
1  1  P  0  3     XXX.XXX.X.X           vmc640    0280  10 ALTA #1
Host Card      Gateway Address      Subnet Mask    Broadcast Address
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1    1           XXX.XXX.X.X    XXX.XXX.XXX.X

  SERIAL CARD TABLE
 host  card   port name    card type        owner                 intr
addr
    1     1       $cti1    DigiBoard Xe     NEC 2400               N/A
320
    1     1       $cti2    DigiBoard Xe     EMPTY                  N/A
320
    1     1       $cti3    DigiBoard Xe     EMPTY                  N/A
320
    1     1       $cti4    DigiBoard Xe     EMPTY                  N/A
320
    2     1       $cti1    DigiBoard Xe     EMPTY                  N/A
320
    2     1       $cti2    DigiBoard Xe     EMPTY                  N/A
320

 The following optional features are enabled:
  NEC NEAX 2400
  Receptionist
  MESA Forms
  FaxMemo
  Call Detail Recorder
  Continuous System Operation
  Unified TCP/IP
  Call Agent
  Disk Redundancy
  Zip Drive

 Prompt Language Configuration:
  English


This was on a Model 640 with 6.0D software, using a T1 Card.  We have
EVERYTHING for EVERY MODEL, WITH AN UNHEARD OF 18 MONTH WARRANTY ON
REFURBISHED PARTS OR SYSTEMS.

My name is RonL.

------------------------------

From: Lynn <lynn@no_thanks.com>
Subject: Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:29:12 GMT


This question may be off topic but ...

I've been getting strange calls (sometimes in the middle of the night)
from a number that requires the caller to enter a pin.  Which carriers
provide these types of phone numbers?  The number is 646-539-9007.

Thank you for your attention.


Alex Smith <asmith42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.62.4@telecom-digest.org:

> Hello all,

> I am venturing into the telephony world and even though I have briefly
> dealt with CTI and H.323, I am still a newbie. I'd like to build an
> application that would allow me to buy apples from several grocery
> stores. (This is a hypothetical but representative example, please
> bear with me). I want to place a telephone call to a number, enter my
> pin, navigate through some voice prompts that will allow me to select
> a particular grocery store, then select a variety of apples and enter
> the amount of apples (weight) I'd like to buy using the phone keypad.
> Finally I would also like to leave voice instructions for the grocer
> on how to pack my apples (paper or plastic). The app would "look me
> up" using my pin number and store the packing instructions as a
> soundbyte along with the other order parameters in a database.

> From a high-level architectural perspective, what hardware and
> software components would make up my stack? For the sake of the
> example, assume small volume (personal use). I am looking for
> high-level architecture rather than product names even though Open
> Source/GNU/etc suggestions are welcome.

> My limited understanding tells me I need a CTI server. Do I need a
> PBX? Other components? If I want to parse the voice instructions (i.e.
> speech recognition) in order to extract "paper" or "plastic", how
> doable is that?

> Any URLs or books that go from slow to complex with architectural
> examples are appreciated.

> Alex Smith
> Insight LLC

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Building a Voice Driven Application
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:10:56 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Charles B. Wilber wrote:

> Nick,

> Did you possibly mean to write "press or say" instead of "speak or
> say?" I don't see the difference between "speaking" and "saying"
> something.

> Charlie Wilber
> Dartmouth College

> Nick Landsberg wrote:

>> "Please speak or say 1 for Granny Smith apples, speak or say 2 for
>> Macintosh apples..." or alternatively ask for the name of the
>> particular apples they were interested in, in which case you would
>> have to program the words "Granny Smith" and "Macintosh" into the ASR
>> grammar".

Yes,

I meant to say that.  ::chagrin::


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: qubit@mail.com (Brent)
Subject: VoIP Behind D-Link DI-614+
Date: 9 Feb 2004 18:14:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I am trying to use Xten Lite with the FreeWorld Dialup service. I
cannot get the D-Link configured properly to let communications to
occur between the FWD server and the Softphone. Has anyone managed to
configure the D-Link DI-614+ router to allow a SIP based VoIP phone to
function with the outside Internet? Please let me know what settings
were used, such as port forwarding, range forwarding, etc. Thanks.

-Br-

------------------------------

From: announce@wspc.com.sg (YH Khoo)
Subject: Int Journal of Info Technology & Decision Making - Vol 2 No 4
Date: 9 Feb 2004 22:05:31 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


International Journal of Information Technology & Decision Making
Vol. 2, No. 4 (December 2003)

View table-of-contents and abstracts at
http://www.worldscinet.com/ijitdm.html

Contents:

Telecommunications Theories, Management, Development, Practices, And
Applications In Information Technology: Issues And Analysis
Bahador Ghahramani And Zixiang Tan

Didero 3G A Strategic Network Planning Tool For 3G Mobile Networks
Klaus D. Hackbarth and J. Antonio Portilla

A Hybrid Bayesian Network-Based Multi-Agent System And A Distributed
Systems Architecture For The Drug Crime Knowledge Management
Parag C. Pendharkar and Rahul Bhaskar

The Evolution Of Strategies And Organizational Competencies In The
Telecommunications Industry
Afonso Fleury And Maria Teresza Fleury

A Grasp Heuristic For Solving An Extended Capacitated Concentrator
Location Problem
Bernard T. Han and V. T. Raja

Bandwidth Allocation In Multicast Trees With Qos Constraints
M. Kodialam and V. Venkateswaran

Bandwidth Allocation In A Wireless Broadcast System
Aslihan Celik, Steve Nahmias And Rhonda Righter

Leveraging IP For Business Success
P. K. Eswaran, S. Prakash, David D. Ferguson and Kathleen Naasz

Safety-Critical Wide Area Network Performance Evaluation
Tuncay Bayrak and Martha R. Grabowski

A Low-Cost Embedded System For Internet Based Power Measurement
M. Yeary, J. Sweeney, B. Swan and C. Culp

A Comparison Of Asynchronous Transfer Mode (Atm) And High Speed
Ethernet: The Network Design Implications To A Business Organization
Dennis Guster, Changsoo Sohn, Paul Safonov And David Robinson

A Telecommunication's Lean Management Information System For The
Utility Industry
Bahador Ghahramani

Acknowledgement To Reviewers

Subject Index

Author Index Volume 2 (2003)

For more information, go to http://www.worldscinet.com/ijitdm.html

------------------------------

From: msraval@rediffmail.com (Mehul)
Subject: Wireline Switch and IS-41
Date: 10 Feb 2004 02:44:25 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Why cannot landline switches be intelligent enough to use IS-41?

In such a scenario, Wireline switch will be able to terminate the call
to mobile subscriber by directly giving the call to correct MSC.

I request to comment you all on this issue.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:41:30 -0500
From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@wn.net>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"


Pat,

Nobody who supports a paper trail in voting machines (voter verified)
wants the ballots to be personally identifiable.  The ideal machine
would print the ballot, allow the voter to see (but not take) it, and
then, presuming the voter did not see a discrepancy, put it into a
box.  No name or anything on the ballot, just a small printout in a
ballot box.  The box would be opened in case of recount.

Brazil used some of these machines.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,61654-2,00.html?tw=wn_story_page_next1

Some of these machines had the printers, though others didn't; the
machines were cheap (no touch screen held down the cost) though
printers added to the cost.  Certainly it can be done.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:40:33 EST
From: Dave Anderson <dave@daveanderson.com>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"


Dave Close wrote:

> The problem with the proposed military system and many other net
> voting schemes is that there is no auditability. No one, not even a
> computer, can detect and prove a fraud without that ability. Voting
> via the Net may happen, but many of us won't support it until there is
> a method for conducting an audit.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But what I said was about the same
> thing: Run the new system in parallel with the old system *at least*
> for one cycle using the usual audit procedures on the paper system
> to validate the computer system. And if turning the whole thing loose
> on the general public is too difficult at first, then overseas
> military would make a good subset to practice on. PAT]

Running a new system in parallel with the old one doesn't address the 
basic problem, which is that it is intrinsicly impossible to reliably 
detect manipulation of an election (let alone determine the correct 
result) unless one can refer to a copy of each vote which was verified 
by the voter and has not been tampered with.  Obviously, it's not likely 
that this can be done perfectly in practice -- but it's not hard to do 
it well enough to make it extremely likely that significant fraud will 
be caught and the correct result determined.  But you have to design in 
auditability from the very beginning, which is what so many of the 
electronic voting schemes do not do (in fact, many of them design in 
prevention of auditing).  

An example of how to do this right, as far as I can tell, is the new
voting system (installed less than a year ago) where I live: the
ballot is a piece of paper with spaces to mark to indicate votes which
the voter fills out and then inserts face-down into a ballot box which
includes a scanner.  The election officials verify that each
registered voter votes at most once, but they never see the actual
votes.  The voter has verified that the paper ballot correctly
indicates his vote, since he filled it out (well, if it's not a
"butterfly" ballot).  The scanner counts the votes as the ballots are
inserted, and so provides the "instant gratification" that so many
people demand, but the original paper ballot is preserved and can be
examined if there is a recount.


Dave Anderson
<dave@daveanderson.com>

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They do something like that here in our
town. People in this 'ward' of the city of Independence go to vote at
the 900 East Poplar Street Building. (a senior citizen center in half
of the building; the local nursery school/Head Start program in the
other half.)  We do not have any problems of electioneering there; the
politicians stay away.  The judge of election has us sign the register
book; the printout is checked against our name and address then we
are given a large ballot and a 'special pencil' to use. We have to
CAREFULLY shade the boxes for each desired candidate, taking care not
to mark the ballot otherwise or outside the designated marking area
for each candidate.  

When finished, we slip our ballot into a sort of metal container which
hides what we have marked, and give it to another judge who stands
next to the scanning machine. She takes a quick (all of two seconds)
look to make sure the boxes were shaded in correctly and puts the
ballot in upside down into this thing, which grabs it by the edge of
the paper and gobbles it and apparently reads the special marks we
made and prints a little piece of paper which says 'thank you for
voting, examine this closely for errors, etc' with the time and date,
and the polling place location. It looks sort of like the little
reciept you get from an ATM machine after your cash comes out, but no
screen to look at. The judge lady there tells you to take the paper
and when you do she puts a little sticker with a message on it saying
'proud to live in Independence and be a voter' with an American flag
design on it (our town's logo) on your shirt or jacket. Some kind of
sticky thing which you wear. Then you take your 'receipt' and are
asked to leave the area. Of course we do not have nearly the volume of
voters found in a major metropolis, but it seems to work fine here. We
have to return the 'special pencils' before we leave. (They appear to
be thick things with soft, black lead which color in the various boxes
nicely, and we are told NOT to use our own pens or pencils.

We vote for federal, state and local matters, four council members,
we confirm the continued employment of the city manager, etc.  PAT]  

------------------------------

From: Gary Breuckman <puma@catbox.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! Re: IDT America Unlimited - Pros/Cons?
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:43:55 -0600
Organization: Puma's Lair - catbox.com


In article <telecom23.61.14@telecom-digest.org>, TELECOM Digest Editor
noted in response to Zebra <zebra@optonline.dot.net> saying:

>> IDT America Unlimited offers the following for $39.95 ($40) a month:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Our local telco here in Independence, KS
> called 'Prairie Stream Communications' offers basically the same package
> for $29.95 per month. The main difference is instead of 'unlimited
> regional' and 'unlimited long distance' they have those two merged into
> 'long distance'. In addition to unlimited local, Prairie Stream allows
> 100 minutes (an hour plus 20 minutes) of 'long distance' in the package.
> Additional minutes are two cents each.  Does IDT allow you to port or
> keep your local number?  Is this the same IDT that used to do TV
> commercials saying long distance is only five cents per minute if you
> dialed their 1010 code?  PAT]

So Pat, how many minutes does Prairie Stream give you in an hour??

-- Gary

[TELECOM Digest Editor Note: Glaring at Gary indignantly, for his
impertinence: Oh, the number of minutes in a Prairie Stream hour ...
Well, they go by the telecom digest Universal Coordinated Standard
... 80 minutes per hour, and they then throw in another 20 minutes.  A
clock for people whose lives have been lived in slow motion since they
through God's Grace (or maybe God's Damnation as I feel most days)
were 'spared' from a brain aneurysm, to 'live' another day, if you
call what I do these days 'living'.  My brain acted out once again,
please excuse me for trying to think and calculate for myself. PAT]

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    TiVo Wins Patent Infringement Suit (Monty Solomon)
    PalmSource Develops New Handheld Strategy (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon / Samsung SCH-a610 Digital Camera Phone (Monty Solomon)
    'Mydoom' Creators Start Up 'Doomjuice' (Monty Solomon)
    Microsoft Warns of Widespread Windows Flaw (Monty Solomon)
    Satellite, Cable Operators Get Ready to Raise Rates (Monty Solomon)
    Disney to Speed Digital Content Delivery (Monty Solomon)
    Usage and Maintenance Usage in Nortel and Motorola Switches (Bush)
    Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S. (Justin Time)
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:57:22 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Wins Patent Infringement Dispute


SAN JOSE, Feb. 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO), the
pioneer in digital video recording (DVR) services, today announced it has
obtained a favorable summary judgment ruling in the case filed against the
Company in 2001 by Pause Technology LLC.

United States District Judge Patti Saris of the District of
Massachusetts has ruled that TiVo does not infringe Pause's patent,
and accordingly has ordered that judgment be entered in favor of
TiVo. TiVo plans to file a motion seeking an Order declaring this an
"exceptional case," and requiring Pause to pay all of TiVo's
attorneys' fees and costs.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:30:37 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: PalmSource Develops New Handheld Strategy


By MAY WONG AP Technology Writer

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- PalmSource Inc., a maker of operating 
systems for handheld computers, is shifting gears as the market for 
so-called smartphones grows and the one for simpler personal digital 
assistants shrinks.

The company's new strategy, to focus more on devices that handle both 
voice and data communications _ as rivals Nokia Corp. and Microsoft 
Corp. have already done _ was being unveiled at its developer 
conference here Tuesday.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40498348

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:41:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon / Samsung SCH-a610 Digital Camera Phone


The SCH-a610 From Samsung Offers Unique Design and Flash Photography

BEDMINSTER, N.J. and DALLAS, Feb. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless,
operator of the nation's largest and most reliable wireless network,
and Samsung Telecommunications America (Samsung), a wireless leader
known for its award-winning product designs and advanced technology,
today introduced the SCH-a610, an innovative digital camera phone
featuring Verizon Wireless' Get It Now(R) service and Samsung's
patented rotating screen design.  Available exclusively from Verizon
Wireless, the SCH-a610 brings consumers a total digital solution for
voice, data and advanced imaging with an emphasis on performance and
design.  Picture Messaging service through Get It Now from Verizon
Wireless makes taking and sending photos with the SCH-a610 as easy as
1-2-3; simply shoot the photo, enter a Verizon Wireless number or
e-mail address, and send.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40502630

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:11:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: 'Mydoom' Creators Start Up 'Doomjuice'


By MATTI HUUHTANEN Associated Press Writer

HELSINKI, Finland (AP) -- Finnish computer security experts warned
Tuesday of a new worm, known as "Doomjuice," that is expected to
attack computers infected by "Mydoom," despite the fact it's
programmed to stop spreading later this week.

The virus, first detected by F-Secure on Monday night, has so far 
infected at least 30,000 computers worldwide since it was activated 
Sunday, said the company's director of antivirus research, Mikko 
Hypponen.

Like Mydoom.A and Mydoom.B, the new worm is designed to strike
Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating systems and is programmed to
launch a worldwide attack on the web site of SCO, one of the largest
UNIX vendors in the world.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40507941

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:43:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Warns of Widespread Windows Flaw


By Robert Lemos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Microsoft has a message for Windows users: Patch your computers quickly.

On Tuesday, the software giant released a fix for a networking flaw
that affects every computer running Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows
XP or Windows Server 2003. If left unpatched, the security hole could
allow a worm to spread quickly throughout the Internet, causing an
incident similar to the MSBlast attack last summer.

http://news.com.com/2100-7355-5156647.html

What You Should Know About the Windows Security Updates for February 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/20040210_windows.asp

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-007
ASN.1 Vulnerability Could Allow Code Execution (828028)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-007.asp

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-006
Vulnerability in the Windows Internet Naming Service (WINS) Could
Allow Code Execution (830352)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-006.asp

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-004
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (832894)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.asp

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Always take much caution when clicking
on any email link you see discussing Microsoft bug fixes, even this
one. Far better and safer to bring up a fresh browser window and
enter the address for updates directly at Microsoft.  But this upate
is very important. Please go get it ASAP.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Satellite, Cable Operators Get Ready to Raise Rates


By Michael McCarthy, USA TODAY

NEW YORK - So much for predictions Rupert Murdoch and News Corp. 
(NWS) would start a cable/satellite TV industry price war after 
taking over DirecTV, the top U.S. satellite service at 12 million 
subscribers.

The service plans to boost average rates by more than 3% starting 
March 1 -- an increase "tied to the increasing escalation of 
programming costs," says Steve Cox, executive vice president of 
sales, distribution and customer acquisition.

The new prices will range from $36.99 a month for basic service with
125 channels to $90.99 for the "premier" package with 210 channels and
free TiVo service. The increase is the fourth in 10 years, but the
last, 3.3%, came in March.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-02-09-directv_x.htm

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:18:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Disney to Speed Digital Content Delivery


By GARY GENTILE AP Business Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The Walt Disney Co. and Microsoft Corp. agreed to 
work together to speed the availability of Disney movies, TV shows 
and other digital content on cell phones, personal digital assistants 
and a new generation of portable media players.

The two companies said Monday they have signed a multiyear agreement
for Disney to license Microsoft's Windows Media digital rights
management technology, which protects digital content from being
illegally copied or played. Financial terms were not disclosed.

Disney already licenses its movies for Internet rentals over the
third-party Movielink service, which uses technology from Microsoft
and RealNetworks Inc., to protect movies and process payments. Disney
uses a proprietary technology to protect movies sent to consumers in
their homes over its MovieBeam service.

The non-exclusive deal with Microsoft is part of Disney's wider effort
to make movies, television shows and other content available to
consumers in digital format, including on a home network and in the
next generation of high-definition DVDs.

Disney also wants its programs available for use on personal media
players, a new generation of devices set to hit the market later this
year and next. The players allow people to store movies, personal
photos, music and other digital content on portable devices.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40488372

------------------------------

From: dakshing64@yahoo.com (Bush will disarm all workers next)
Subject: Usage and Maintenance Usage in Nortel and Motorola Switches
Date: 10 Feb 2004 16:14:48 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I was assigned a project to figure out the actual usage of a circuit.
I know that it is measured in CCS or erlangs. In Lucent 5E's log every
30 minutes several usage numbers are given ITUSG, OTUSG, etc. Could
someone clarify what these are? Also I am looking for a relationship
between maitenance usage and usage for Nortel and Motorola switches.

Many thanks,

Dakshin

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: 10 Feb 2004 08:04:19 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


BobGoudreau@not-your.biz <BobGoudreau@not-your.biz wrote in message
news:<telecom23.65.8@telecom-digest.org>...

> [Please obscure my email address.  Thank you.]

> Rodgers Platt wrote:

>> We are beating a dead horse, but if the person having the PDA never
>> performs a backup or transfer -- when was the last time you backed up
>> the contents of your PC's hard disk -- the data is still lost.

>> Every office I visit has at least a copier or fax machine that
>> would allow a sheet of notes or sketches to be copied and shared if
>> need be.

> But I'm willing to bet that far more PDA users than Daytimer users
> actually do back up their data.  It's pretty easy for me to back up my
> Palm Pilot (which is also my phone) by slipping it into its charging
> cradle, pressing the "sync" button and waiting 30 seconds -- so easy
> that I do it almost daily.  In fact, anyone who wants to have a shared
> appointment book (say, between their phone or PDA and MS Outlook on
> their PC) will be happy to do this regularly.

> In comparison, flipping through a daytimer to find all the pages that
> have changed since the last backup and then photocopying them is quite
> a chore.

> Bob Goudreau
> Cary, NC

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Dear Bob, I hope obscuring your address
> by putting you in the '.biz' domain (?) was sufficient. PAT]

I didn't say you didn't back up your PDA.  I asked when was the last
time you did a backup of the device that you sync your PDA with. 
Having a backup of the data on your PDA doesn't do any good if that
source crashes -- the same as loosing a daytimer or at least the pages
that haven't been filed.


Rodgers

------------------------------

From: xarush@omelas.com (Chas)
Subject: Computer Phone Conferencing, Give Me a Dial Tone!
Date: 10 Feb 2004 09:26:53 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I want a simple system that will allow me to call into a "box" and out
on another line.

For example, I have a high speed link that allows me to put a Vonage
like phone in a remote locale. I want to call into that phone which is
hooked into the box and then hear a dial tone and dial out on a
"local" phone.

The way I envisage it is to have small computer, a dialogic card with
a conference ability and some simple software.

If you know of the type of software/hardware that would support this
ability please respond. Maybe there is another solution I am open to
any suggestions.


Regards,

xarush

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A ready made out-of-the-box solution
might be to use a 'WATS extender' or a a call-diverter type box. You
plug the Vonage in one side of it, and your new telephone line into
the other side of it, and of course program it for security with a
password. Sort of like a 'patch' used by ham operators. Then when you
dial into the one number and enter your password, bingo, you get a 
dial tone from the Vonage.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:37:59 PST
From: John Bartley or K7AAY@ARRL.NET <johnbartley3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Nokia Cellphones Vulnerable to SNARF Attack via Bluetooth


AL Digital http://www.aldigital.co.uk/ announced Nokia 6310, 8910 and
8910i mobiles were found to be at greatest risk to having their data
copied without the owner's consent with a crack attack over Bluetooth.

The security papers (links, below) suggest keeping some other models
of Bluetooth-capable mobiles 'invisible' to other devices may prevent
data within the phone from being copied with a 'SNARF attack.'  At
worst, ony the data within the phone itself could be abducted, so if
you don't keep data in it, and instead keep data within a PDA or
notebook, the risk to you is low.

Yeah, welcome to the 21st century.

However, the authors apparantly got the brush from Sony-Ericsson,
Nokia and the Bluetooth standards body when they raised the issue, so
further attention seems merited.

http://www.commsdesign.com/showArticle.jhtml?artic leID=17601809
http://www.bluestumbler.org/

The latter URL has a number of references and leads to web pages for
the cracking software cited, and it looks like AL Digital may have
done their homework.


John E. Bartley, III  K7AAY telcom admin, PDX, USA - Views mine. 
celdata (dot) cjb (dot) net - Handheld Cellular Data FAQ

*This post is quad-ROT13 encrypted. Reading it violates the DMCA.* 

One Ringtone to rule them all, one Carrier to find them,
One Phone to bring them all and to the Service Contract bind them.

------------------------------

From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com>
Subject: Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:15:19 -0600
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com


On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 02:08:41 GMT, Steve Michelson
<njchillie@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I wonder whether you live in a state where they are having primary
> elections. The Do Not Call list does not apply to political pollsters,
> charities, and companies with whom you had an existing
> relationship. Perhaps you are getting calls from political pollsters?

Tell me about it, we were getting several a day right before the Iowa
caucuses.  I told each one I vote for the candidate that outlaws ALL
junk calls, especially the most vile type, those being the politcial
type.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:55:29 -0700
From: Paul Migliorelli (+1 3 0 3 5 4 3 2 3 1 1) <paulmigs@migliorelli.org>
Subject: Voicemail Notify Signal Has Disappeared?


Hi all.  I'm a Qwest Wireless user, currently with a Kyocera 2135.  

Voicemail is set to notify new messages.  Normally you would get the beep, 
or vibrate, or whatever.  Over the last long while, there hasn't been any 
notify. I'm curious if this could be a result of the physical phone being 
full of text messages?  I'm a blind user, and thus have ***no access to 
the text functions of the phone.  I gather that by some default setup of 
service, you are able to email messages to phone numbers??  Maybe it's 
fulla spam now and I never know this??  Is there some menu choice where 
you can set suppress text messages, or can you tell qwest to suppress 
them??  I remember when I originally got service, it was default setup for 
browsing which it took long time to convince them to take it off and not 
charge $14.95.  I'd just never thought that text messages were thrown in.  
Some of us are thinking maybe if the phone is cleared out, the notify will 
return??  

Thanks as always.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley)
Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:16:56 GMT


> The scanner counts the votes as the ballots are inserted, and so
> provides the "instant gratification" that so many people demand, but
> the original paper ballot is preserved and can be examined if there
> is a recount.

Right! Exactly what I've been going on about. Here we have a paper
record filled out by the voter. Scanners are just vastly superior to
the stupid touch screen machines which operate entirely on the "trust
me" principle.

Probably even more important in practical terms -- even if the scanner
breaks, people can continue to cast ballots, they just have to do
without the instant feedback (a pencil is the only bit of technology
that needs to be working for voters to cast ballots with scanners -- a
finicky $4000 piece of equipment has to be working to cast a ballot
with a touch screen).

Now they want to add printers to the touch screen systems here in Palm
Beach County, but no one has answered the question I'd like answered:
"What the heck do you do if, on election day, the printers start
telling everyone they voted differently than they actually did?".  Now
you are trying to run an election with machines that are obviously
non-functional. I suppose that's marginally better than not knowing
they are broken, but you still can't actuallly hold a valid
election. You might as well just forget the printers and continue to
operate on the "trust me" principle. By almost every practical
measure, even the old punch card systems were better than the touch
screens.  

>>==>> The *Best* political site <URL:http://www.vote-smart.org/> 
>>==+ email: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net icbm: Delray Beach, FL |
<URL:http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley> Free Software and Politics <<==+

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:34:01 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: Mrs. Stevens Had to go to Hospital


My dear friend, a female cat whose name is Mrs. Stevens, or Missy for
short, has had some trouble recently. Last Friday was 'open house' day
at the Independence Animal Hospital and since they were giving greatly
discounted health exams and ten percent off any other procedures done,
I took Missy out there. Her health is generally pretty good, but her
claws had to be trimmed. (She expresses her interest in me by jumping
on my bed and latching into me with her claws otherwise.)  I do *not*
declaw my cats since it has the effect of leaving them defenseless
when roaming around in my yard (dogs, other cats, squirrels, etc). But
she had been scratching her ear quite a bit lately which is a sign of
something. The doctor found an 'ear plug' (something like ear wax or
similar) in her one ear. A big nasty black thing when doctor showed it
to me on the scope they use for those exams, etc.

Neither I nor Doctor know how she got it, but he said to bring her
back today (Tuesday) to get it removed. Missy was not about to allow
anyone to get inside her ear, so Doctor decided they (he and his
staff) would anestisize her and do it that way. She stayed in the
animal hospital all last night and had the surgery done this morning.
She was crying when I left her off yesterday night (a pitiful wail
is more like it) and started doing the same thing when I went back
this afternoon to get her. 

Now, Tuesday evening she is back home, but sort of wobbly from the
after affects of the anesthesia. She always sits where she can keep
her eye on me except when she goes out in the yard. I moved her bed
here into the computer room where she can sleep it off but keep her
eye on me when she is awake. Normally she sleeps in a chair here in
the computer area (when I am in here) but the poor thing is so
wobbly she tried to get in her chair tonight and fell over.  Doctor
said to not give her any food tonight  and only *take* her a small
bowl of water when she wanted it. I hope she is feeling better by
tomorrow.  

PAT

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    Yahoo! and Sprint Announce Launch of Enhanced Yahoo! Msgr (M. Solomon)
    Policy Post 10.03: Security Holes at DMVs Nationwide Highlight (Solomon)
    Lycos Emerges as Web's Central Location for Connecting People (Solomon)
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    Comcast Proposes to Buy Walt Disney (Monty Solomon)
    Comcast Corporation Makes Proposal to Merge With Walt Disney (M Solomon)
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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Yahoo! and Sprint Announce Launch of Enhanced Yahoo! Messenger
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:32:29 -0500


SUNNYVALE, Calif. & OVERLAND PARK, Kan.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 11,
2004--

New Downloadable Application Built Specifically for the Mobile
Environment Allows PCS Vision Customers to View Who's Online, Send
Messages and Conduct Multiple Conversations Directly from Their Phone

Yahoo! Inc. (Nasdaq:YHOO), a leading global Internet company, and
Sprint (NYSE:FON, PCS), which operates the largest all-digital,
all-PCS nationwide wireless network in the United States, today
announced customers nationwide can now access an enhanced Yahoo!(R)
Messenger for Mobile ( http://mobile.yahoo.com/messenger/sprint ), a
downloadable full-color, graphical version of Yahoo! Messenger, on PCS
Vision phones. The new service is built specifically for the mobile
environment and demonstrates the companies' continuing commitment to
innovation and meeting consumer demand for engaging mobile services.

The new Java-based Yahoo! Messenger for Mobile provides a PC-like
experience for the mobile phone that allows consumers to have
unlimited instant messaging with everyone on their friends list. The
service allows consumers with PCS Vision phones to sign into Yahoo!
Messenger from their phone and continue to communicate with their
friends online. Upon purchase the application is downloaded to the
consumer's handset and can be accessed directly through the phone.
Users can see who else is online, send and receive instant messages
and have multiple conversations at once simply by switching between IM
sessions. The service is available for $2.99 a month, and consumers
will be charged on their monthly Sprint bill upon purchase.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40526072

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:25:39 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Policy Post 10.03: Security Holes at DMVs Nationwide Highlight


CDT POLICY POST Volume 10, Number 3, February 3, 2004

A Briefing On Public Policy Issues Affecting Civil Liberties Online
 from The Center For Democracy and Technology

(1) Security Holes at DMVs Feed ID Theft, Offer Lessons for National
    ID Card Debate
(2) Driver's License Facing Wider Uses, including Online Authentication
(3) Lax Security and Insider Abuse at the Local Level Pose National
    Challenges

http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_10.03.shtml

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:28:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Lycos Emerges as Web's Central Location for Connecting People


New Strategy Helps People Create and Recreate Relationships

WALTHAM, Mass., Feb. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Terra Lycos (Nasdaq:
TRLY and Madrid Exchange: TRR), the global Internet Group, today
announced the creation of the first Internet network specifically
constructed to enable people to create and recreate relationships with
the people who most enrich their lives.  With the change, to be rolled
out in a series of steps over the coming months, the new Lycos is
poised to be a leader in the emerging personal connectivity category,
the Internet arena that connects people around areas of passion
including family, friends, career and more.  Lycos will transition
from a generic portal business to a tight network of interconnected
vertical sites focused on personal connections.  The transition will
include an internal restructuring, as well as changes to the company's
media sales operations.


The new Lycos aims to be a leader in subscription services that
connect people, facilitating one of the most valuable Internet
activities.  Later this month, the Lycos.com homepage will be
relaunched to become a hub for personal connections, giving users a
single starting place to manage their Internet experience as a way to
connect with others.  Lycos Search will anchor the new Lycos homepage,
with convenient navigation between and among the varied Connections
sites.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40527697

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:29:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Lycos U.S. Enters Multi-Year Comprehensive Media Sales


     Lycos U.S. Enters Multi-Year Comprehensive Media Sales and
     Technology Agreement with 24/7 Real Media
     - Feb 11, 2004 09:01 AM (PR Newswire)

24/7 Real Media to Provide Media Sales, Ad Serving, Analytics and
Behavioral Targeting Technology as Lycos Embarks on Strategy Centered
on Creating and Re-creating Relationships Online

  Agreement Makes the 24/7 Web Alliance the 4th Largest Media Entity on the
                                 Internet(1)


WALTHAM, Mass, and NEW YORK, Feb. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Terra
Lycos (Nasdaq: TRLY and Madrid Exchange: TRR), the global Internet
group, and 24/7 Real Media, Inc. (Nasdaq: TFSM), a pioneer in
interactive marketing and technology, today announced the signing of a
multi-year strategic agreement for 24/7 Real Media to provide media
sales, ad serving and analytics technology and services for Lycos
U.S. Web properties.

As part of the agreement, the 24/7 Real Media sales force will
represent the U.S. properties of Lycos, Inc., for all display
advertising.  The Lycos properties, which attract 50 million
U.S. monthly unique users(2), will enter the 24/7 Web Alliance, which
will then be the 4th largest Media Entity on the Internet(1) with more
than 66 million monthly unique users.  The 24/7 Web Alliance is the
Company's suite of Web advertising solutions comprised of branded Web
sites, vertical content channels and a direct marketing network of
more than 700 Web sites.  Lycos U.S. operates a network of highly
branded Web sites which include: Quote.com, Tripod.com, Angelfire.com,
HotBot.com, Matchmaker.com, and Wired News (Wired.com).  In a separate
announcement, Lycos today introduced a new strategy that will focus on
Lycos becoming the leading Web site for creating and re-creating
relationships online.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40527722

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:30:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Comcast Proposes to Buy Walt Disney


By SKIP WOLLENBERG AP Business Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- In a surprise move, cable TV giant Comcast Corp.
proposed early Wednesday to buy Walt Disney Co., the iconic media and
entertainment powerhouse that owns the ABC and ESPN television
networks, movie studios and theme parks, for stock valued at about $54
billion.

The nation's biggest cable systems operator said it would also assume
$11.9 billion in Disney debt.

Comcast's stunning proposal was made even as Disney boss Michael
Eisner is fending off criticism from former board members Roy E.
Disney, the nephew of Disney founder Walt Disney, and Stanley E. Gold
about his performance and lack of a succession plan as Disney's chief
executive.

Comcast said Eisner declined earlier this week to discuss a possible merger.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40527980

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:34:45 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Comcast Corporation Makes Proposal to Merge With The Walt Disney


Offer Values Disney at $66 Billion

                Strategic Combination Would Create One of the
          World's Premier Entertainment and Communications Companies

NEW YORK, Feb. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Comcast Corporation
(Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) today announced that it has made a proposal to
The Walt Disney Company (NYSE:DIS) to merge the two companies in a
tax-free transaction.  The combination would create one of the world's
leading entertainment and communications companies with an
unparalleled distribution platform and an extraordinary portfolio of
content assets.  The new company would have a presence in all of the
nation's top 25 markets, and would propel broadband forward, expanding
current services and inspiring new ones.

Terms of the proposed transaction are as follows:

     * Comcast would issue 0.78 of a share of Comcast Class A voting
       common stock for each Disney share.

     * Disney shareholders would receive a premium of over $5 billion,
       based on yesterday's closing prices, plus full participation in
       the combination benefits.

     * Comcast's proposal values Disney at $66 billion (which includes
       assumption of $11.9 billion of Disney's net debt), offering a
       multiple of approximately 14x Disney's 2004 estimated EBITDA.

     * Disney shareholders would own 42% of the combined company.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40525030

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:38:26 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Media Alert: Comcast to Host Press Conference to Detail Merger


PHILADELPHIA, Feb. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Comcast (Nasdaq: CMCSA,
CMCSK) announces the following press conference:

     What:  Comcast has initiated discussions to merge Comcast and The Walt
            Disney Company in a combination that would create one of the
            world's premier entertainment and communications companies.

     Who:   Brian Roberts, President and CEO, Comcast Corporation
            Steve Burke, President, Comcast Cable

     When:  February 11, 2004 @ 11:00 a.m. ET

     Where: St. Regis Hotel
            St. Regis Roof, 20th Floor
            Two East 55th Street
            New York, NY 10022


If you are unable to attend the meeting you can access the event via
webcast or teleconference. To participate in the webcast, visit
www.cmcsa.com or www.cmcsk.com . Those parties interested in
participating via telephone should dial (800) 865-4460 for U.S.
callers and (973) 935-8505 for international callers. A telephone
replay will begin immediately following the call and will be available
until February 18, 2004 at midnight Eastern Time (ET). To access the
rebroadcast, please dial (877) 519-4471 for U.S. callers and (973)
341-3080 for international callers, enter passcode 4509745.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40525236

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:21:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Watchers Uneasy After Post-Super Bowl Reports


By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Janet Jackson's Super Bowl flash dance was shocking in more ways than 
one: Some TiVo users say the event brought home the realization that 
their beloved digital video recorders are watching them, too.

On Monday, TiVo said the exposure of Jackson's breast during her 
halftime performance was the most-watched moment to date on its 
device, which, when combined with the TiVo subscription service, lets 
viewers pause and "rewind" live television broadcasts, among other 
features.

TiVo said users had watched the skin-baring incident nearly three 
times more than any other moment during the Super Bowl broadcast, 
sparking headlines that dramatically publicized the power of the 
company's longstanding data-gathering practices.


http://news.com.com/2100-1041-5154219.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:31:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: U.S. Copyright Office Sets Webcaster Royalty Rates


By Sue Zeidler

LOS ANGELES, Feb 10 (Reuters) - The U.S. Copyright Office has
published long-awaited royalty rates for Web music broadcasts, ending
a year-long process marked by legal and financial wrangling, the group
named to handle the royalties said on Tuesday.

Regulations published on Feb. 6 essentially rubber-stamped a
resolution reached last April between online music broadcasters and
the Recording Industry Association of America, the industry trade
group for big record labels like Time Warner Inc.'s (NYSE:TWX) Warner
Music and Vivendi Universal's (NYSE:V) <EAUG.PA> Universal Music.

In addition to setting rates for the 2003-2004 license period, the
Copyright Office also named SoundExchange -- a former RIAA arm spun
off as a separate non-profit group in September 2003 -- as the sole
designated agent to collect and distribute royalties from Webcasters
and new online subscription services.

The recording industry and Webcasters finally agreed on a proposed
0.0762 cents per performance or 1.17 cents per aggregate hour tuned in
for free, advertising-supported services. Webcasters had opposed other
rates suggested by the RIAA, saying they would put them out of
business.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40519503

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:30:58 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Yahoo Rolls Out New Messenger Service With Sprint


- Feb 11, 2004 08:18 AM (Reuters)

qSAN FRANCISCO, Feb 11 (Reuters) - Internet services company
Yahoo Inc. (NASDAQ:YHOO) on Wednesday launched an enhanced version
of its instant messenger service to run on PCS Vision mobile
telephones from partner Sprint Corp. (NYSE:FON).

The new mobile service, which is a downloadable Java-based
application, allows Yahoo messenger users to see who else is online,
send and receive messages and carry on multiple conversations at once,
among other things.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40526679

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:34:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Thomas A. Horsley wrote:

> Probably even more important in practical terms -- even if the scanner
> breaks, people can continue to cast ballots, they just have to do
> without the instant feedback (a pencil is the only bit of technology
> that needs to be working for voters to cast ballots with scanners -- a
> finicky $4000 piece of equipment has to be working to cast a ballot
> with a touch screen).

This reminds me of the story of NASA way back when.  They purportedly
spent thousands if not millions in R&D money to develop a ball-point
pen which would work in space (Null-gravity, free-fall, whatever you
want to call it ... weightlessness).

The Russians supplied their cosmonauts with a pencil.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: gsmolin@suscom.net (Greg Smolin)
Subject: Hands Free Use With Motorola V60C Closed
Date: 10 Feb 2004 20:58:31 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Is it possible to use the Motorola V60C with the phone closed with a
hands free device -- or must the phone be open to talk?

------------------------------

From: Pete Romfh <spamblocked@yourISP.com>
Subject: Re: Computer Phone Conferencing, Give Me a Dial Tone!
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 07:20:24 -0600
Organization: Not Organized


Chas wrote:

> I want a simple system that will allow me to call into a "box" and
> out on another line.

> For example, I have a high speed link that allows me to put a Vonage
> like phone in a remote locale. I want to call into that phone which
> is hooked into the box and then hear a dial tone and dial out on a
> "local" phone.

> The way I envisage it is to have small computer, a dialogic card
> with a conference ability and some simple software.

> If you know of the type of software/hardware that would support this
> ability please respond. Maybe there is another solution I am open to
> any suggestions.

> Regards,

> xarush

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A ready made out-of-the- box solution
> might be to use a 'WATS extender' or a a call-diverter type box. You
> plug the Vonage in one side of it, and your new telephone line into
> the other side of it, and of course program it for security with a
> password. Sort of like a 'patch' used by ham operators.  Then when
> you dial into the one number and enter your password, bingo, you get
> a dial tone from the Vonage.  PAT]

Take a look at http://www.pcphoneline.com/

They have a VoIP Gateway (FXO/FXS Port Converter) that will do what
you're wanting.  It's under $50 and lots easier than "Rolling your
own".


Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
promfh at Texas dot net

------------------------------

From: BobGoudreau@not-your.biz
Subject: Re: Plain Old Cell Phones Fading Away in U.S.
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:22:18 -0500


[Patrick, please continue to obscure my email address. Your
"@not-your.biz" method for doing this works wonderfully.  Thank you.]

Rodgers Platt wrote:
 
> I didn't say you didn't back up your PDA.  I asked when was the last
> time you did a backup of the device that you sync your PDA with.
> Having a backup of the data on your PDA doesn't do any good if that
> source crashes -- the same as loosing [sic] a daytimer or at least the
> pages that haven't been filed.

But these scenarios are not the same.  The typical (i.e., not backed
up) Daytimer user is doomed by the loss or destruction of just one
object (the Daytimer), as my friend's wife so painfully found out when
her purse was stolen.  I, OTOH, won't lose data unless *two* unrelated
things are simultaneously lost or destroyed: my Palm phone *and* the
computer to which I sync it.  The Daytimer analogy to that
double-failure scenario would be having you lose your Daytimer *and*
also losing your putative repository of photocopy backups.

In fact, it would take far more than a double failure to destroy my
Palm phone's data, because I don't actually back it up to my work PC
-- I back it up *through* my work PC (which runs Outlook) to a
Microsoft Exchange server located in a data center 700 miles away,
which itself gets backed up regularly and professionally.  But even
for PDA users without such a safety net, it would still take two
separate losses to totally destroy their data.


Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    eBay Scam Uses iPods as Bait  (Monty Solomon)
    CDT Calls for Legislation Creating Federal Privacy Officers (M. Solomon)
    CDT Files Complaint With FTC in "Browser Hijacking" Case (Monty Solomon)
    MS-Disney Deal 'Heralds Format War' (Monty Solomon)
    Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax (Monty Solomon)
    EPIC Alert 11.03 (Monty Solomon)
    Can't Get First Two Digits of Inband String (Matt Darnell)
    Norvergence Still at it ... (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: "No Internet Voting" (Mark Atwood)
    NetZero Commercials on Television (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: Hands Free Use With Motorola V60C Closed (SELLCOM Tech support)

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:52:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: eBay Scam Uses iPods as Bait 


By Leander Kahney

A search for "iPod" on eBay yields a couple thousand listings for the
digital music player and accessories, but beware: Hundreds of the
listings are inducements to join pyramid-style scams.

Ebay is swamped with new "matrix" schemes, which appear to be
legitimate buyers clubs but are in fact variations on classic pyramid
scams, which are outlawed around the world.

In most cases, eBay shoppers are offered hot products like an iPod, a 
game console or a cell phone at an incredible discount, say for $40 
or $25.

The eager bargain hunter is told not to bid on the item, but is
directed instead to sites like My3Mobile ,The Phone Matrix or
Goraks.com , which offer iPods or cell phones as free gifts when
products like CDs or eBooks are purchased.

The catch is that buyers only get their free iPod after more people 
sign up. When making a purchase, the buyer's name is added to a list. 
As new members join, names are shuffled up the list. When they reach 
the top, the iPod is dispatched.

To speed up the process, buyers are often encouraged to recruit new 
members to join the scheme. And that's where all the eBay posts come 
from: Victims are using eBay to recruit new members.


http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,62226,00.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:01:36 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CDT Calls for Legislation Creating Federal Privacy Officers


Citing the model of the Privacy Officer established by statute in the 
Department of Homeland Security, CDT is urging Congress to create 
similar positions at other federal agencies as a means of addressing 
privacy concerns associated with government information practices in 
the digital age. February 10, 2004

CDT Testimony: "Privacy in the Hands of the Government: The Privacy 
Officer for the Department of Homeland Security", Feb. 10, 2004
    http://www.cdt.org/testimony/20040210dempsey.shtml

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:06:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CDT Files Complaint with FTC in "Browser Hijacking" Case


The Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT) today filed a complaint 
with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) against Mailwiper Inc., 
Seismic Entertainment Media and/or their affiliates engaged in 
deceptive and unfair marketing practices by changing computer users' 
Web homepages without their consent and then trying to convince these 
users that they needed the Mailwiper program called "Spy Wiper" 
software to protect their computer. CDT has heard from several 
consumers who have spent hours trying to fix their computer and some 
who even bought Spy Wiper to no avail. CDT asked consumers to provide 
information about their experiences with spyware via a Web site. CDT 
received hundreds of messages about different companies. Several of 
these messages were about Spy Wiper and their activities led CDT to 
investigate further. February 11, 2004

CDT's Complaint with the FTC against Mailwiper and Seismic 
Entertainment Media [pdf] Feb. 10, 2004:
    http://www.cdt.org/privacy/20040210cdt.pdf

CDT Report "Ghosts in Our Machines: Background and Policy Proposals 
on the 'Spyware' Problem" [pdf] November 2003:
    http://www.cdt.org/privacy/031100spyware.pdf

Join CDT's Campaign Against "Spyware":
    http://www.cdt.org/action/spyware/

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:10:01 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: MS-Disney Deal 'Heralds Format War'


By Macworld staff

Industry insiders believe the Microsoft-Disney alliance, which will
see the two companies develop digital media content and delivery
systems together, indicates that a new format war is under way.

Jupiter Research analyst Joe Wilcox told The New York Post: "Apple 
has traction in Hollywood. Its computers are used to make a lot of 
movies. But Apple needs to go a step further in the digital 
distribution of video."

Wilcox notes that Microsoft plans to introduce handheld devices later
this year that will let users fetch and play movies on the go. "If the
only way to download Disney movies is on a Microsoft-powered digital
player, a consumer might buy music that would play on the same
device. It might finally give Microsoft a leg up on Apple's iPod," he
said.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=7886

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:21:07 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax


By Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus

A small and diverse band of hobbyists steeped in the obscure languages
of embedded systems has released its own custom firmware for a popular
brand of cable modem, along with a technique for loading it -- a
development that's already made life easier for uncappers and service
squatters, and threatens to topple long-held assumptions about the
privacy of cable modem communications.

The program, called Sigma, was released in its final version last
month, and has reportedly been downloaded 350 to 400 times a day ever
since. It's designed to be flashed into the non-volatile memory of
certain models of Motorola's Surfboard line, where it runs in parallel
with the device's normal functionality. It gives users almost complete
control of their cable modem -- a privilege previously reserved for
the service provider.

The project is the work of a gang of coders called TCNiSO. With about
ten active members worldwide, the group is supported by contributions
from the uncapping community -- speed-hungry Internet users who rely
on TCNiSO's research and free hackware to surmount the bandwidth caps
imposed by service providers, usually in violation of their service
agreement, if not the law. To them, Sigma is a delight, because it
makes it simple to change the modem's configuration file -- the key to
uncapping, and, on some systems, to getting free anonymous service
using "unregistered" modems. "I've known TCNiSO for two years now and
I've done a lot of things with their techniques," wrote a Canadian
uncapper in an e-mail interview. "Sigma is the greatest one I've
seen."

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7977

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:52:23 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EPIC Alert 11.03


=======================================================================
                            E P I C  A l e r t
=======================================================================
Volume 11.03                                          February 11, 2004
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                             Published by the
               Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
                             Washington, D.C.

             http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.03.html

======================================================================
Table of Contents
======================================================================

[1] EPIC FOIA Docs Show Acxiom Was Considered as TIA Data Source
[2] Pentagon Cancels Internet Voting Project
[3] FBI Asks FCC to Delay Discussion of Internet Phone Rules
[4] DHS Deputy Secretary Questioned About Passenger Profiling
[5] EPIC and PI Open Nominations for Brandeis, Big Brother Awards
[6] News in Brief
[7] EPIC Bookstore:  Protecting America's Health
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events

http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.03.html

------------------------------

From: mdarnell@servpac.com (Matt Darnell)
Subject: Can't Get First Two Digits of Inband String
Date: 11 Feb 2004 19:35:32 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aloha,

We are having touble receiving the first 2 digits of a string of
digits being sent by our PBX.  The digits are sent immediatly after we
go offhook.

I.E. The PBX sends "###333" (we verified with a digit grabber) we will
only see "#333".  This is 100% consistant.

I have included our C test program, I think the DTMF receivers are not
being activated soon enough after on hook.

After reading the docs, the dx_getdig simply gets the digits out of
the buffer, it doesn't turn the DTMF receivers on or off.


Aloha,
Matt Darnell

*******

while(1)
{

printf("Opening " DEVICE "\n");

if ((chdev = dx_open(DEVICE, 0)) == -1) {
printf("Failed to open device!! : %d\n", errno);
switch(errno)
{
case EINVAL : printf("\tInvalid device " DEVICE "\n");
break;
case EBADF : printf("\tInvalid file descriptor\n");
break;
case EINTR : printf("\tEAn interrupt was caught\n");
break;
case EIO : printf("\tLinux Streams error\n");
break;
default : printf("\tUnknown error\n");
} exit(-1);
}

dx_sethook(chdev, DX_ONHOOK, EV_SYNC);

dx_clrtpt(tpt,3);
tpt[0].tp_type = IO_CONT;
tpt[0].tp_termno = DX_MAXDTMF; /* Maximum number of digits */
tpt[0].tp_length = 4; /* terminate on 4 digits */
tpt[0].tp_flags = TF_MAXDTMF; /* terminate if already in buf. */

tpt[1].tp_type = IO_CONT;
tpt[1].tp_termno = DX_LCOFF; /* LC off termination */
tpt[1].tp_length = 3; /* Use 30 ms (10 ms resolution */
tpt[1].tp_flags = TF_LCOFF|TF_10MS; /* level triggered, clear history,
10 ms resolution */

tpt[2].tp_type = IO_EOT;
tpt[2].tp_termno = DX_MAXTIME; /* Function Time */
tpt[2].tp_length = 100; /* 10 seconds (100 ms resolution */
tpt[2].tp_flags = TF_MAXTIME; /* Edge-triggered */
tpt[2].tp_flags = TF_MAXTIME; /* Edge-triggered */

/* clear previously entered digits */

if (dx_clrdigbuf(chdev) == -1) {
printf("Unable to clear digit buffer\n");
exit(-1);
}

printf("Gonna wait for ring!!\n");
if (-1 == (dx_wtring(chdev, 1, DX_OFFHOOK, -1)))
{
printf("dx_wtring returned error\n");
ATDV_ERRMSGP(errno);
exit(-1);
}

printf("Gonna get digs\n");

if ((numdigs = dx_getdig(chdev, tpt, &digp, EV_SYNC)) == -1) {
printf("dx_getdig returned error\n");
exit(-1);
}

printf("dx_getdig got %d digits", numdigs);

for (cnt=0; cnt < numdigs; cnt++) {
printf("\n\tDigit received = %c digit type = %d",
digp.dg_value[cnt], digp.dg_type[cnt]);
}
printf("\nClosing " DEVICE "\n");
dx_close(chdev);
}

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For a short term solution, can't you
force feed two more digits in the front of the string which do not
matter to the PBX as filler so that when it starts 'seeing' the digits
it is where you want things to be? Or, do you have any way to get the
PBX to stall long enough to get the equipment opened? Maybe in your
script above a couple of NOPS (non-operations) will stall sufficiently. 
PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:54:43 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Norvergence Still at it ...


I *thought* Norvergence was going to leave me alone. Silly me for
thinking, I know ... Now just today, I got still another letter
 from an attorney (new to me) named Federico Acosta, in Tustin, CA
who purports to represent David Rodriquez, the defendant in the
Norvergence vrs. Rodriquez case. Attorney Acosta, just like attorney
Kyle Kulzer of Norvergence, is making demand that derogatory
messages about Norvergence be removed from our web site.  Despite the
fact that Michael D. Sullivan in Washington, DC is representing me
in the case, attorney Acosta chose to write directly to me. I do
not know if that was his own idea, or if perhaps Norvergence and
their attorney simply chose to cut Sullivan out of the picture and
put the pressure directly on me instead. *Once again* I told this
latest attorney NO! to his demands, and suggested he take furher
demands etc to Mr. Sullivan. I faxed the latest correspondence over
to Mike Sullivan tonight. 

PAT

------------------------------

Subject: Re: "No Internet Voting"
From: Mark Atwood <mra@pobox.com>
Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy!
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:13:49 GMT


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net> writes:

> This reminds me of the story of NASA way back when.  They purportedly
> spent thousands if not millions in R&D money to develop a ball-point
> pen which would work in space (Null-gravity, free-fall, whatever you
> want to call it ... weightlessness).

> The Russians supplied their cosmonauts with a pencil.

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

| Claim: NASA spent millions of dollars developing an "astronaut pen"
| which would work in outer space while the Soviets solved the same
| problem by simply using pencils.
| 
| Status: False. 
| 
| Origins: The Write stuff lesson of this anecdote is a valid one, that
| we sometimes expend a great deal of time, effort, and money to create
| a "high-tech" solution to a problem, when a perfectly good, cheap, and
| simple solution is right before our eyes. The anecdote offered above
| isn't a real example of this syndrome, however. Fisher did ultimately
| develop a pressurized pen for use by NASA astronauts (now known as the
| famous "Fisher Space Pen"), but both American and Soviet space
| missions initially used pencils, NASA did not seek out Fisher and ask
| them to develop a "space pen," Fisher did not charge NASA for the cost
| of developing the pen, and the Fisher pen was eventually used by both
| American and Soviet astronauts.
| 
| Here's how Fisher themselves described it: NASA never asked Paul
| C. Fisher to produce a pen. When the astronauts began to fly, like the
| Russians, they used pencils, but the leads sometimes broke and became
| a hazard by floating in the [capsule's] atmosphere where there was no
| gravity. They could float into an eye or nose or cause a short in an
| electrical device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of the
| pencil could burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher
| realized the astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing
| instrument, so in July 1965 he developed the pressurized ball pen,
| with its ink enclosed in a sealed, pressurized ink cartridge. Fisher
| sent the first samples to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Director of the Houston
| Space Center. The pens were all metal except for the ink, which had a
| flash point above 200°C. The sample Space Pens were thoroughly tested
| by NASA. They passed all the tests and have been used ever since on
| all manned space flights, American and Russian. All research and
| developement costs were paid by Paul Fisher. No development costs have
| ever been charged to the government.
| 
| Because of the fire in Apollo 1, in which three Astronauts died, NASA
| required a writing instrument that would not burn in a 100% oxygen
| atmosphere. It also had to work in the extreme conditions of outer
| space:
| 
| 1. In a vacuum.
| 2. With no gravity.
| 3. In hot temperatures of +150°C in sunlight and also in the cold
|    shadows of space where the temperatures drop to -120°C
| 
| (NASA tested the pressurized Space Pens at -50°C, but because of the
| residential [sic] heat in the pen it also writes for many minutes in
| the cold shadows.)
| 
| Fisher spent over one million dollars in trying to perfect the ball
| point pen before he made his first successful pressurized pens in
| 1965. Samples were immediately sent to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Manager of
| the Houston Space Center, where they were thoroughly tested and
| approved for use in Space in September 1965. In December 1967 he sold
| 400 Fisher Space Pens to NASA for $2.95 each.
| 
| Lead pencils were used on all Mercury and Gemini space flights and all
| Russian space flights prior to 1968. Fisher Space Pens are more
| dependable than lead pencils and cannot create the hazard of a broken
| piece of lead floating through the gravity-less atmosphere.
 

Mark Atwood   | When you do things right,
mra@pobox.com | people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
http://www.pobox.com/~mra

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:37:45 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: NetZero Commercials on Television


Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. According
to those people, you can 'surf the net at up to five times faster
than regular dialup', and they sell it for $14.95 per month. Does
anyone know what they are doing?  The various 56-K dialups around
town are all brokering through TerraWorld under various names, but
I wonder what NetZero does that makes them 'up to five times faster
than regular dialup'.  Any ideas?

PAT

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Hands Free Use With Motorola V60C Closed
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:53:01 -0500
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com


gsmolin@suscom.net (Greg Smolin) posted on that vast internet thingie:

> Is it possible to use the Motorola V60C with the phone closed with a
> hands free device -- or must the phone be open to talk?

My V60 works closed with a hands free headset plugged in.  Unplug the
headset to disconnect the call.


Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Motorola Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus,
Talkswitch, Watchguard!

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If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

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    Officials Say Mob Stole $200 Million Using Phone Bills (Monty Solomon)
    KODAK Mobile Service Coming to Verizon Wireless Get It Now (M. Solomon)
    EchoStar, SIRIUS Join Forces With RadioShack To Form Satellite (Solomon)
    Re: Can't Get First Two Digits of Inband String (Justin Time)
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 03:11:31 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Officials Say Mob Stole $200 Million Using Phone Bills


By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM

Forget gambling, loan-sharking and labor racketeering. New York 
organized crime figures bilked millions of unsuspecting consumers 
out of more than $200 million over five years by piggybacking bogus 
charges on their telephone bills, federal authorities said yesterday.

The scheme, involving a network of companies stretching from Midtown 
Manhattan to Overland Park, Kan., marked what federal authorities 
believe was the first time organized crime figures have been charged 
with using the billing fraud known as "cramming" to fill mob coffers.

The nationwide scheme was sophisticated, officials said, but the idea 
was simple: Callers responding to advertisements for free samples of 
services like psychic phone lines, telephone dating services and 
adult chat lines were unknowingly charged up to $40 a month on their 
phone bills for services they never requested and never used.

It worked because many telephone-related services are now paid 
through local phone companies' monthly bills, with the companies 
passing on the payments to the service providers. The organized crime 
figures used a company that consolidated billings for service 
providers, allowing them to bill through local phone companies and 
collect their fees, fees with innocent-sounding titles like "voice 
mail services" hidden deep within the phone bills, unnoticed by all 
but the most dogged consumer. Frauds involving cramming -- the common 
term for larding a telephone bill with unauthorized charges -- have 
been around for years, but the mob's scheme was particularly 
audacious, the authorities said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/11/nyregion/11MOB.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:34:38 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: KODAK Mobile Service Coming to Verizon Wireless Get It Now


     Verizon Wireless and Kodak Forge Strategic Relationship; KODAK
     Mobile Service Coming to Verizon Wireless Get It Now Customers
     - Feb 12, 2004 08:01 AM (BusinessWire)

ROCHESTER, N.Y. & BEDMINSTER, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 12,
2004--Eastman Kodak Company and Verizon Wireless, the nation's largest
wireless service provider, today announced that KODAK Mobile Service
will be available to Verizon Wireless' Get It Now(R) customers. With
KODAK Mobile Service -- offered through Kodak's Ofoto subsidiary -
Verizon Wireless customers will be able to view, share, organize, and
store their digital photos in one trusted place.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40552557

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:38:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EchoStar, SIRIUS Join Forces With RadioShack To Form Satellite


     EchoStar, SIRIUS Join Forces With RadioShack To Form Satellite
     Entertainment Alliance
     - Feb 12, 2004 08:03 AM (PR Newswire)

     - RadioShack to Offer SIRIUS Satellite Radio in 7,000
       Neighborhood Stores

     - DISH Network Announced as RadioShack's Exclusive Satellite TV Brand

     - Multi-Year Agreements Include Comprehensive Marketing, Advertising
       And Promotional Activities

     - SIRIUS' Commercial-Free Music to be Added to DISH
       Network Satellite TV Service

NEW YORK, ENGLEWOOD, Colo., and FORT WORTH, Texas, Feb. 12
/PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- RadioShack Corporation (NYSE:RSH), EchoStar
Communications Corporation (Nasdaq: DISH) and SIRIUS Satellite Radio
(Nasdaq: SIRI) today announced the formation of a satellite
entertainment alliance that positions EchoStar's DISH Network and
SIRIUS as the only satellite entertainment brands offered at
RadioShack.  DISH Network also announced it will make SIRIUS music
programming available to the majority of its 9-million customers.  The
three-way alliance allows RadioShack to offer DISH Network -- a
service offering already available at RadioShack -- and SIRIUS
Satellite Radio, providing customers with one-stop shopping for their
satellite entertainment needs.

This satellite entertainment alliance will substantially increase both
DISH Network's and SIRIUS' sales presence throughout the country and
is expected to open up new markets for both satellite broadcasters as
they tap into RadioShack's ubiquitous distribution network and
knowledgeable sales associates.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40552683

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Can't Get First Two Digits of Inband String
Date: 12 Feb 2004 05:56:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


mdarnell@servpac.com (Matt Darnell) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.69.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> Aloha,

> We are having touble receiving the first 2 digits of a string of
> digits being sent by our PBX.  The digits are sent immediatly after we
> go offhook.

> I.E. The PBX sends "###333" (we verified with a digit grabber) we will
> only see "#333".  This is 100% consistant.

> I have included our C test program, I think the DTMF receivers are not
> being activated soon enough after on hook.

> After reading the docs, the dx_getdig simply gets the digits out of
> the buffer, it doesn't turn the DTMF receivers on or off.				   
> Aloha,
> Matt Darnell

> *******

> while(1)
> {

> printf("Opening " DEVICE "\n");

> if ((chdev = dx_open(DEVICE, 0)) == -1) {
> printf("Failed to open device!! : %d\n", errno);
> switch(errno)
> {
> case EINVAL : printf("\tInvalid device " DEVICE "\n");
> break;
> case EBADF : printf("\tInvalid file descriptor\n");
> break;
> case EINTR : printf("\tEAn interrupt was caught\n");
> break;
> case EIO : printf("\tLinux Streams error\n");
> break;
> default : printf("\tUnknown error\n");
> } exit(-1);
> }

> dx_sethook(chdev, DX_ONHOOK, EV_SYNC);

> dx_clrtpt(tpt,3);
> tpt[0].tp_type = IO_CONT;
> tpt[0].tp_termno = DX_MAXDTMF; /* Maximum number of digits */
> tpt[0].tp_length = 4; /* terminate on 4 digits */
> tpt[0].tp_flags = TF_MAXDTMF; /* terminate if already in buf. */

> tpt[1].tp_type = IO_CONT;
> tpt[1].tp_termno = DX_LCOFF; /* LC off termination */
> tpt[1].tp_length = 3; /* Use 30 ms (10 ms resolution */
> tpt[1].tp_flags = TF_LCOFF|TF_10MS; /* level triggered, clear history,
> 10 ms resolution */

> tpt[2].tp_type = IO_EOT;
> tpt[2].tp_termno = DX_MAXTIME; /* Function Time */
> tpt[2].tp_length = 100; /* 10 seconds (100 ms resolution */
> tpt[2].tp_flags = TF_MAXTIME; /* Edge-triggered */
> tpt[2].tp_flags = TF_MAXTIME; /* Edge-triggered */

> /* clear previously entered digits */

> if (dx_clrdigbuf(chdev) == -1) {
> printf("Unable to clear digit buffer\n");
> exit(-1);
> }

> printf("Gonna wait for ring!!\n");
> if (-1 == (dx_wtring(chdev, 1, DX_OFFHOOK, -1)))
> {
> printf("dx_wtring returned error\n");
> ATDV_ERRMSGP(errno);
> exit(-1);
> }

> printf("Gonna get digs\n");

> if ((numdigs = dx_getdig(chdev, tpt, &digp, EV_SYNC)) == -1) {
> printf("dx_getdig returned error\n");
> exit(-1);
> }

> printf("dx_getdig got %d digits", numdigs);

> for (cnt=0; cnt < numdigs; cnt++) {
> printf("\n\tDigit received = %c digit type = %d",
> digp.dg_value[cnt], digp.dg_type[cnt]);
> }
> printf("\nClosing " DEVICE "\n");
> dx_close(chdev);
> }

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For a short term solution, can't you
> force feed two more digits in the front of the string which do not
> matter to the PBX as filler so that when it starts 'seeing' the digits
> it is where you want things to be? Or, do you have any way to get the
> PBX to stall long enough to get the equipment opened? Maybe in your
> script above a couple of NOPS (non-operations) will stall sufficiently. 
> PAT]

I don't see any delay in here to allow the switch to set up and assign
the DTMF receivers to the digit string.  Most PBX systems I have
worked on do things in milliseconds, while programs operate at 10 to
100 times that speed.  The reason you don't see the first digits is
because the processor in the PBX, operating at a slow speed just can't
set up to handle the digits as quickly as the programmer expects them.

Try putting a delay statement into your program that will delay 2-5
ms, it will probably then pass all the digits with no errors.

Rodgers Platt

------------------------------

From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Re: New Telemarketer Law, Caller ID, and Anonymous Call Reject
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:52:47 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


> once again filled with ringing phones.  Before this, there was a fair
> chance that an incoming call was from someone we wanted to hear from,
> so we'd pick up after looking at caller ID; now we have to deal with
> at least double or triple the number of calls.

> Has anyone else noticed this phenomenom? I guess for the small number
> of folks with ACR it's a step backward, even though it may be an
> improvement for the majority.  I'm wondering what will happen if I
> cancel ACR -- even more calls I suppose.

We have a similar service through SBC and I'm reporting 1 to 2
telemarketers a day without exaggeration.  I guess I'll find out if
the state and national DNC lists have teeth.

John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

------------------------------

From: chuck@monarchcomputer.com (Chuck Herndon)
Subject: Partner Mail VS Release 3; messages cut off
Date: 12 Feb 2004 08:10:44 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I have been having this problem for a few years and it seems that the
problem is getting worse.  Messages that people are leaving on this
system will be cut off during playback.  If you try repeatedly to
retrieve the message you might be able to get the whole message.  I
have deleted all of the unused mailboxes on the system and checked the
ones in use to make sure that they are not full.  This system is only
used by a small number of people now, about 6 of which 5 have voicemail.
Has anyone else had this experience?  Perhaps our voicemail card needs
to be replaced with a new one?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

------------------------------

From: kenneth.neely@sce.com (Ken Neely)
Subject: Rack Mount Cellular Phone
Date: 12 Feb 2004 09:03:20 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


My client needs to acquire a number of rack mount cellular (1xrtt -
Verizon) phones for emergency ops use. Are any quality devices of this
type available ?

kenneth.neely@sce.com

------------------------------

From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:28:18 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


> If I were to e-mail it to a victim, and if he clicked on it -- and
> didn't have up-to-date antivirus software, which many people don't
> --

<sigh>

It wouldn't matter if he did have up-to-date antivirus software
because, unless the virus you've just created (or, in this case,
generated) looks almost exactly like a previously discovered virus, no
virus update has yet been made which will recognize it.

This is exactly what's wrong with antivirus software.

My favorite analogy: what if security guards could only recognize
criminals whose faces matched those in a book (updated regularly) of
known felons?  How effective would they be if (a) they had to stop
every person entering a bank or store in order to compare them to the
faces in the book, and (b) they would still let through people
carrying rifles because they had not yet been identified as a known
felon?

Yet that's exactly how antivirus software works and, as long as the
antivirus companies make money charging you a subscription fee to
update that book of known felons, I see no financial incentive for
these companies to try develop technologies that would recognize files
that have code in them to format drives or send themselves out via
e-mail.  It's far too easy to declare that such technology would be
too difficult to develop or wouldn't work well.

But the current technology doesn't work very well, either ... so what
are we paying for?


Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
Commodore PET

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some anti-virus software -- I am
thinking specifically of Grisoft -- have a totally free version for
individual users, and their updates -- about every ten days to two
weeks are totally free also. You can give them donations via PayPal
if you wish. It scans all incoming email and attachments on a 
continuing basis, and it inspects your entire hard drive once every
24 hours. I was turned on to Grisoft by my Canadian friend, and it is
a very useful utility, at no charge. Companies, or people who
otherwise make money using their computer are asked to pay for the
program. I have it installed on all three of my computers, to run
at 5 AM daily. I wouldn't be without it.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:58:24 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television


TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

> Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
> 'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. According
> to those people, you can 'surf the net at up to five times faster
> than regular dialup', and they sell it for $14.95 per month. Does
> anyone know what they are doing?

Netzero sets up a proxy that has a big fat pipe to the internet.  Your 
dialup connection goes through their proxy.  The proxy makes web pages 
load faster by doing some on-the-fly HTML optimization, but mainly by 
recompressing graphics so the image files are smaller.

Doing a side-by-side comparison between two identical PCs loading the 
same web page, one through NetZero and one through a "normal" ISP you 
will immediately notice two things:  First, the NetZero page loads a LOT 
faster.  Second, the slower page looks a LOT better.

If you aren't particularly concerned with the graphics quality, 
NetZero's acceleration will be helpful for browsing.  But if appearance 
is important (porn) or you do a lot of file transfers (p2p) you won't 
like it.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:28:51 GMT


In article <telecom23.69.10@telecom-digest.org>, ptownson@telecom-
digest.org says:

> Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
> 'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. According
> to those people, you can 'surf the net at up to five times faster
> than regular dialup', and they sell it for $14.95 per month. Does
> anyone know what they are doing?  The various 56-K dialups around
> town are all brokering through TerraWorld under various names, but
> I wonder what NetZero does that makes them 'up to five times faster
> than regular dialup'.  Any ideas?

> PAT

Most likely they provide some combination of a download accelerator,
which prefetches pages linked from the page you're reading, and
caching of degraded graphics, for faster browsing speed.  In other
words, they can indeed make it possible to surf the net faster than
using a normal browser and ISP, at the cost of poorer quality
graphics.  (One could also speed the web browsing experience by
turning off graphics or using a text-only browser, but this would also
result in a pretty boring looking page.)  The one thing they can't do
is make your actual downloads faster.


Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:46:23 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.69.10@telecom-digest.org> TELECOM Digest Editor
<ptownson@telecom-digest.org> writes:

> Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
> 'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. According
> to those people, you can 'surf the net at up to five times faster
> than regular dialup', and they sell it for $14.95 per month. Does
> anyone know what they are doing?  The various 56-K dialups around
> town are all brokering through TerraWorld under various names, but
> I wonder what NetZero does that makes them 'up to five times faster
> than regular dialup'.  Any ideas?

First, they do NOT add any additional capacity to the phone/modem 
connection. The actual data transfer rate isn't any faster.

So there will NOT be any speed improvement (and their fine print
admits it) when moving files (term used loosely -- they can be
anything from video clips to mp3s to programs, etc.) across.

What their system does is, broadly, two things:

	a) it'll downgrade images on a web page, making
	them much smaller (bytewise) and moving them
	across faster. So that 250k jpg you're downloading
	from NASA's Mars collection will be replaced by
	a, perhaps, 50k one. Faster d/l, but lossy.

	b) It also pre-caches all the secondary (and more ...)
	pieces of a web page. For example, when you pull
	up a story from your local newspaper's home page,
	there may be five, ten, or more ... other places
	it sends your browser so as to fill out the various
	advertising spots. The wait time for all of these requests
	is annoyingly long, and even more so if they have to get
	done sequentially. 

	The "speed up" involves the intermediate server grabbing all
	of these bits and pieces (or even replacing them, but let's
	not get into that ...)  so as to feed them as one quick stream
	to you.

So yes, you will see some improvement with many web pages. Obviously
the tv promos are giving you the best possible spin on it, but there
is a bit of truth behind it.

On the other hand, you're getting the tradeoff of lower quality
images.  (You can often, but not always, re-click onto the degraded
one so as to order up the full quality version)

And, again, this will do (almost) nothing for file transfers.

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:00:34 -0600


TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> wrote:

> Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
> 'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. According
> to those people, you can 'surf the net at up to five times faster
> than regular dialup', and they sell it for $14.95 per month. Does
> anyone know what they are doing?  The various 56-K dialups around
> town are all brokering through TerraWorld under various names, but
> I wonder what NetZero does that makes them 'up to five times faster
> than regular dialup'.  Any ideas?

Probably some caching/proxy setup, that's all. Earthlink is offering
something similar these days. 


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

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Inside This Issue:                           Happy Valentines Day, Guys!

    Intel Scientists Make World's Fastest Silicon Photonics Device (Solomon)
    FCC: 'Pure' VoIP Not a Phone Service (Monty Solomon)
    Lycos U.S. Changes ... Everything (Monty Solomon)
    Re: NetZero Commercials on Television (Phil Earnhardt)
    Re: NetZero Commercials on Television (Hudson Leighton)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Barry Margolin)
    Re: Hands Free Use With Motorola V60C Closed (Joseph)
    Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application (dnhunt)
    Advice Needed For Modem Disconnecting Problem (L. Hao)
    Re: Norvergence Still at it ... (Henry Cabot Henhouse III)
    Using Account Codes on a Mitel SX2000L Running LW3.0 (Chris)
    Blame General Electric for Blackout Says First Enercy (Daeron)
    Universal Email/SMS Cell Phone Gateway Beta Test (John Bartley)

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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:41:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Intel Scientists Create World's Fastest Silicon Photonics Device


Silicon Could Bring High-bandwidth Fiber Optic Connections to PCs

SANTA CLARA, Calif., Feb. 12, 2004 -- Scientists from Intel
Corporation have achieved a major advance using silicon manufacturing
processes to create a novel "transistor-like" device that can encode
data onto a light beam. The ability to build a fast photonic (fiber
optic) modulator from standard silicon could lead to very low-cost,
high-bandwidth fiber optic connections among PCs, servers and other
electronic devices, and eventually inside computers as well.

As reported in today's issue of the journal Nature, Intel researchers
split a beam of light into two separate beams as it passed through
silicon, and then used a novel transistor-like device to hit one beam
with an electric charge, inducing a "phase shift." When the two beams
of light are re-combined the phase shift induced between the two arms
makes the light exiting the chip go on and off at over one gigahertz
(one billion bits of data per second), 50 times faster than previously
produced on silicon. This on and off pattern of light can be
translated into the 1's and 0's needed to transmit data.

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20040212tech.htm

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:48:26 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: FCC: 'Pure' VoIP Not a Phone Service


By Declan McCullagh and Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Handing a partial victory to Internet phone providers, federal
regulators said Thursday that voice communications flowing entirely
over the Internet are not subject to traditional government
regulations.

The Federal Communications Commission, in a split decision, approved a
request from voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) provider Pulver.com
to be immune from the hefty stack of government rules, taxes and
requirements that applied to 20th-century telephone networks.

http://news.com.com/2100-7352-5158105.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:00:28 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Lycos U.S. Changes ... Everything


By Rebecca Lieb

In two dramatic announcements this week, Lycos U.S. said it will shed
its portal strategy to become a vast social network; the company also
inked a 5-year deal with 24/7 Real Media to outsource display ad
sales, ad serving and analytics for its Internet properties.

http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/3311971


Lycos to Drop Search Image, Goes Social Networking

Lycos has decided to throw in the Search Engine/Portal towell and dip
into the realm of Social Networking, according to sources. Instead of
trying to play catchup with Google, MSN, and Yahoo while trying to
carve out a unique identity for the Lycos.com site, they've decided to
go the way of Friendster, Meetup.com and Google's Orkut (been invited
yet? if not email me).

http://www.searchenginejournal.com/index.php?p=274

Lycos Restructures, Cuts U.S. Staff

By Stefanie Olsen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Web portal Lycos laid off about 20 percent of its U.S. staff
Wednesday, as it restructured its business.

As previously reported, the company began advertising space for lease
at its Mountain View, Calif., office last week, a sign of imminent
cutbacks.

Lycos, a division of Spanish Internet conglomerate Terra Lycos, will 
streamline its business to focus on subscription services, such as 
its personals site Matchmaker. The company, based in Waltham, Mass., 
will outsource U.S. advertising sales to 24/7 Real Media, it said.

http://news.com.com/2100-1038-5157640.html

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: 12 Feb 2004 12:47:35 -0800
Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com]


In article <telecom23.69.10@telecom-digest.org>, TELECOM Digest Editor
says:

> Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
> 'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. According
> to those people, you can 'surf the net at up to five times faster
> than regular dialup', and they sell it for $14.95 per month. Does
> anyone know what they are doing?

I posted an article about this on 1/29 to the Telecom digest.
 
NetZero, AOL, and Earthlink are all offering "premium" services where
the client software is performing some combination of caching and data
compression with the ISP to provide "high performance" service. An
article comparing the services and prices is at:

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Aug/gee20030820021395.htm

The article describes a benchmark AOL comissioned with VeriTest. The
benchmark shows AOL with the fastest service. A copy of the report is
available at:

http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/aol/aol9.pdf

I really like the AOL advertisements that premiered in the Super
Bowl. However, if I were to buy one of these services, I'd get
NetZero's service. You could always try their regular service at $9.95
a month and then upgrade to see if the performance boost was worth it.

--phil

------------------------------

From: hudsonl@skypoint.com (Hudson Leighton)
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:41:05 -0600
Organization: MRRP


In article <telecom23.70.11@telecom-digest.org>, Danny Burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

> In <telecom23.69.10@telecom-digest.org> TELECOM Digest Editor
> <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> writes:

>> Lately I have seen commercials on television for an ISP known as
>> 'NetZero'which invite me to take the 'Netzero Challenge'. 

>         a) it'll downgrade images on a web page, making
>         them much smaller (bytewise) and moving them
>         across faster. So that 250k jpg you're downloading
>         from NASA's Mars collection will be replaced by
>         a, perhaps, 50k one. Faster d/l, but lossy.

>         b) It also pre-caches all the secondary (and more ...)
>         pieces of a web page. For example, when you pull
>         up a story from your local newspaper's home page,
>         there may be five, ten, or more ... other places
>         it sends your browser so as to fill out the various
>         advertising spots. The wait time for all of these requests
>         is annoyingly long, and even more so if they have to get
>         done sequentially. 

And of course if you are using a pay site that charges you a per page
fee you get to pay for pages you never visited.

Same thing with a site that limits the number of pages you can access
per day, viist the home page and bang you have used all your access
for that day.


-Hudson

http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:51:54 -0500


In article <telecom23.70.8@telecom-digest.org>, Geoffrey Welsh
<reply@newsgroup.please> wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some anti-virus software -- I am
> thinking specifically of Grisoft -- have a totally free version for
> individual users, and their updates -- about every ten days to two
> weeks are totally free also.

How does that address the point that Geoffrey was making, which is
that AV software won't recognize a virus that it hasn't specifically
been taught about?

I recall the early AV software that I used in MacOS worked very
differently.  Rather than looking for virus signatures in files, it
intercepted system calls and recognized unusual behavior.  For
instance, most programs don't need to modify the "System" file (the
MacOS operating system itself); if an unrecognized application tried
to do this, the AV software would alert the user.  He could then
reject or permit the operation (perhaps he's downloading OS patches),
and optionally add the program to a list of authorized applications.

Unfortunately, this type of monitoring doesn't really work in the case
of things like email worms.  As applications have become more complex
and integrated, it's common for many different applications to access
the address book and/or send out mail, so these alerts would be much
more common from normal activities.  And there are also many more
unsophisticated users, who wouldn't really know how to respond to the
alerts.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well I know that Grisoft addresses one
of his points: You do not have subscribe (as in pay for) various
modifications. Every day or three it goes off looking for any updates
to what it does, comes back, installs them, etc . Also, regards system
files, everytime on of my three computers is booted, Grisoft goes 
through those files looking also. It happens very fast, but when I boot
up I see a message announcing the Grisoft copyright, and a string of
file names dashes past on the screen as they examined. It may cause
the bootup process an extra 10 seconds or so of time when doing it.
It also examines everything coming in from the net, email and files.
I also use Zone Alarm (another free software product) which is
forever asking me for permission to allow some program or another to
'access the internet'. I have my copies of Zone Alarm instructed that
its 'trusted zone' is 192.168.1.100 through 192.168.1.103 and that
its 'trusted server' is 192.168.1.1, or in other words the Linksys
router and the the four ports on the back of it. And of course the
Windows 2000 AND Windows 98 machines are told to deny any/all requests
they see coming through the Linksys asking for files or to install
files, etc. Its not perfect by any means, but I do not leave any 
ports or sockets open unless absolutely required, and then just for
the job at hand, and I adjust those as needed using the admin function
on the Linksys firewall router. I use ssh and *ssh only* to connect
here with massis. My general answer to guys who do not know how to
respond to alerts (and that includes myself, sometimes) is to deny
the request.  PAT]  

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Hands Free Use With Motorola V60C Closed
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:39:31 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On 10 Feb 2004 20:58:31 -0800, gsmolin@suscom.net (Greg Smolin) wrote:

> Is it possible to use the Motorola V60C with the phone closed with a
> hands free device -- or must the phone be open to talk?

Are the send/end keys inside the flip?  If yes, then it would appear
that you have to keep the flip open to be able to talk.  If no you
probably don't need to have it open.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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Reply-To: <dnhunt@msceng.com>
From: dnhunt <dnhunt@msceng.com>
Subject: Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:21:20 -0500
Organization: Mid-South Consulting Engineers, Inc.


Alex,

I was an advisor and later on the Board of Directors of a company that
built a platform similar to what you want.  It would recognize who you
are and offer specific menus based on your interests, etc.  Everything
was voice activated using Nuance voice recognition software.  We still
have the application and servers working in our building with another
start-up company that is using it for a different application.

If you are looking for a "personal" type application, you probably
shouldn't use Nuance.  There are less expensive, but also less
reliable, voice recognition software programs.  The key to any of the
systems is the database that is behind it.  We spent hundreds of
thousands of dollars developing the platform and databases.  With some
work, it could probably be modified for other applications without
reinventing the wheel.

Let me know if you are interested in learning more because I only know
enough about the technology to be dangerous.  I would have to get you
in touch with the people who designed it and have gone on to other
opportunities.


David N. Hunt, Executive Vice President - Business Development
Mid-South Consulting Engineers, Inc.
3901 Rose Lake Drive, Charlotte, NC 28217
dnhunt@msceng.com, Tel: 704/357-0004, Fax: 704/357-0025

asmith42@hotmail.com (Alex Smith) inquired about Building a
Voice-Driven Application on 7 Feb 2004 16:11:34:

> Hello all,

> I am venturing into the telephony world and even though I have briefly
> dealt with CTI and H.323, I am still a newbie. I'd like to build an
> application that would allow me to buy apples from several grocery
> stores. (This is a hypothetical but representative example, please
> bear with me). I want to place a telephone call to a number, enter my
> pin, navigate through some voice prompts that will allow me to select
> a particular grocery store, then select a variety of apples and enter
> the amount of apples (weight) I'd like to buy using the phone keypad.

> Finally I would also like to leave voice instructions for the grocer
> on how to pack my apples (paper or plastic). The app would "look me
> up" using my pin number and store the packing instructions as a
> soundbyte along with the other order parameters in a database.

> From a high-level architectural perspective, what hardware and
> software components would make up my stack? For the sake of the
> example, assume small volume (personal use). I am looking for
> high-level architecture rather than product names even though Open
> Source/GNU/etc suggestions are welcome.

> My limited understanding tells me I need a CTI server. Do I need a
> PBX? Other components? If I want to parse the voice instructions (i.e.
> speech recognition) in order to extract "paper" or "plastic", how
> doable is that?

> Any URLs or books that go from slow to complex with architectural
> examples are appreciated.

> Alex Smith
> Insight LLC

------------------------------

From: L. Hao <lhaoNOSPAM@comcast.net>
Subject: Advice Needed For Modem Disconnecting Problem
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:09:56 GMT


Hi,

I am in the middle of integrating a third party vendor's modem server
into our product, which functions as a modem server. The server
modem's codec software runs in a TI C5409 DSP. And the server runs
NT4.0.

We are experiencing disconnecting problems. After we connect a USR
V.90 client modem to the server modem and start downloading files from
internet to the client machine, we would get disconnect shortly after
the starting of the downloading.

And we found the reason for the disconnect was in the server side. And
it was due to a DTR CLEAR IOCTL call issued from user mode level to
the modem driver. The driver then turns around and disconnect the
server modem in the DSP.

Can anyone with experience let me know how to approach this problem?
Not an expert in the modem arena, I am at lost in tracing down this
DTR CLR. What I want to do is to find out why the DTR CLEAR is issued
and who issues it. I have a hunch that it was triggered by something
that the modem sent, but our vendor insisted that they are doing
everything right. So please help me!

Thanks in advance.

Lee

------------------------------

From: Henry Cabot Henhouse III <soper_chicken@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Norvergence Still at it ...
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:19:19 -0800


It's a shame that a company that claims to offer such a good service
has to threaten to sue to try and keep the truth from being published.

My experience with Norvergence has been limited to telling the
annoying Norvergence telemarketing person to place us on the do not
call list, having him argue with me, then him calling back repeatedly
until I finally threatened to file a complaint with the local PD for
harassment.

The Los Angeles Times telemarketing drones are annoying but they
respect the request to not be called ... Norvergence seems to be a
hundred times worse and so much more annoying ... I assume that soon,
they'll be goosestepping door to door at 6am and hanging out on street
corners flogging off copies of the latest issue of "Watchgence" (or
Norvergtower?) magazine.

Just my humble opinion and a parody boot :) And don' sue me... I'm
broke.

TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> wrote in message
news:telecom23.69.8@telecom-digest.org:

> I *thought* Norvergence was going to leave me alone. Silly me for
> thinking, I know ... Now just today, I got still another letter
> from an attorney (new to me) named Federico Acosta, in Tustin, CA
> who purports to represent David Rodriquez, the defendant in the
> Norvergence vrs. Rodriquez case. Attorney Acosta, just like attorney
> Kyle Kulzer of Norvergence, is making demand that derogatory
> messages about Norvergence be removed from our web site.  Despite the
> fact that Michael D. Sullivan in Washington, DC is representing me
> in the case, attorney Acosta chose to write directly to me. I do
> not know if that was his own idea, or if perhaps Norvergence and
> their attorney simply chose to cut Sullivan out of the picture and
> put the pressure directly on me instead. *Once again* I told this
> latest attorney NO! to his demands, and suggested he take furher
> demands etc to Mr. Sullivan. I faxed the latest correspondence over
> to Mike Sullivan tonight.

> PAT

------------------------------

From: chris.ewen@abnamro.com (Chris)
Subject: Using Account Codes on a Mitel SX2000L Running LW3.0
Date: 13 Feb 2004 08:01:07 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I'm having problems implementing account codes and hoping someone out
there has used them successfully on the SX2000L. I would like to use
them to allow end users to make international calls. At the moment, we
are manually entering in international numbers in ARS, then removing
them after the user is done. I have attempted to setup account codes
using Mitel's EDOC's with no success. Doing so required everyone that
wanted to dial long-distance to enter in an account code. Any help or
advice would be appreciated.

------------------------------

From: doug_mentohl@yahoo.co.uk (Daeron)
Subject: Blame General Electric for BlackOut says FirstEnergy
Date: 13 Feb 2004 10:42:37 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Software Bug Contributed to Blackout
Kevin Poulsen Feb 11 2004

A previously-unknown software flaw in a widely-deployed General
Electric energy management system contributed to the devastating scope
of the August 14th northeastern U.S. blackout, industry officials
revealed this week.

[Unknown as it didn't exist until it was needed as a scapegoat in
order to distract from the real reason. Sounds to me like FirstEnergy
trying to deflect blame onto GE.]

The bug in GE Energy's XA/21 system was discovered in an intensive
code audit conducted by GE and a contractor in the weeks following the
blackout, according to FirstEnergy Corp., the Ohio utility where
investigators say the blackout began.

'It had never evidenced itself until that day," said spokesman Ralph
DiNicola. "This fault was so deeply embedded, it took them weeks of
poring through millions of lines of code and data to find it.'

Who is this contractor ? What code are they referring to here ? How
were the tests conducted ? Did they include any other systems that
were involved in the BlackOut ? How many of the SCADA units running on
FirstEnergy were Microsoft Windows ?

"FirstEnergy was aware the alarm system was broken, said company
spokesman Ralph DiNicola. A functioning backup alarm at the Midwest
Independent System Operator, a nonprofit power pool that oversees the
region's electrical grid, was in place," DiNicola said.

http://www.nipc.gov/dailyreports/2003/August/DHS_IAIP_Daily_2003-08-18.pdf

The flaw was responsible for the alarm system failure at FirstEnergy's
Akron, Ohio control center that was noted in a November report from
the U.S.-Canadian task force investigating the blackout. The report
blamed the then-unexplained computer failure for retarding
FirstEnergy's ability to respond to events that lead to the outage,
when quick action might have limited the blackout's spread.

Power system operators rely heavily on audible and on-screen alarms,
plus alarm logs, to reveal any significant changes in their system's
conditions," the report noted. FirstEnergy's operators "were working
under a significant handicap without these tools. However, they were
in further jeopardy because they did not know that they were operating
without alarms, so that they did not realize that system conditions
were changing.

TRANSCRIPTS of telephone conversations ... include explicit
mention of some unknown 'computer problems' at FirstEnergy, the Ohio
utility thought to have triggered the regional power failures, in
those preceding hours.

Early on, a controller at the Midwest Independent System Operator
asked his counterpart at FirstEnergy why it hadn't reacted to a
transmission line outage. The utility's technician replied:

"We have no clue. Our computer is giving us fits, too. We don't even
know the status of some of the stuff around us."

"I called you guys like 10 minutes ago, and I thought you were
figuring out what was going on there."

"Well, we're trying to. Our computer is not happy. It's not
cooperating either." 

The cascading blackout eventually cut off electricity to 50 million
people in eight states and Canada.

The blackout occurred at a time when the Blaster computer worm was
wreaking havoc across the Internet. The timing triggered some
speculation that the virus may have played a role in the outage -- a
theory that gained credence after SecurityFocus reported that two
systems at a nuclear power plant operated by FirstEnergy had been
impacted by the Slammer worm earlier in the year.

"On January 25, 2003, Davis-Besse nuclear power plant was infected
with the MS SQL Server 2000 worm. The infection caused data overload
in the site network, resulting in the inability of the computers to
communicate with each other."

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/gen-comm/info-notices/2003/in200314.pdf

Instead, the XA/21 bug was triggered by a unique combination of events
and alarm conditions on the equipment it was monitoring, DiNicola
said. When a backup server kicked-in, it also failed, unable to handle
the accumulation of unprocessed events that had queued up since the
main system's failure.

Because the system failed silently, FirstEnergy's operators were
unaware for over an hour that they were looking at outdated
information on the status of their portion of the power grid,
according to the November report.

What were these 'unique combination of events and alarm conditions' ?
This is Poulson in an earlier article about the earlier systems crash
at a Nuclear Plant.

"In that article, Poulsen offers a detailed description of how another
Microsoft worm, Slammer, crashed two Unix-based control systems at the
Davis-Besse nuclear power plant in Northern Ohio also operated by
FirstEnergy.

Poulsen reported that FirstEnergy engineers had bridged the nuclear
plant's control network with FirstEnergy's corporate network -- a
practice that is increasingly common among utility companies,
according to industry and security experts."
http://www.newsforge.com/software/03/09/09/1526221.shtml?tid=78

What number of SCADA units on this system were running Windows ? What
effect on the total monitoring system would a Windows SCADA system
being contaminated with a virus.


"The root cause of the outage was linked to .. trees .. FirstEnergy
says .. its role in the outage is overstated in the interim report"

[shuffle .. shuffle]

 from http://www.securityfocus.com/news/8016

Retrospective ass covering is all. I guess General Electric can't
afford as much protection on Capitol Hill as MICROS~1. Get those
cheque books out guys. It's election year!!!

"Specifically, key personnel may not have been aware of the need to
take preventive measures at critical times, because an alarm system
was malfunctioning."

"The existence of both internal and external links from SCADA systems
to other systems introduced vulnerabilities."

https://reports.energy.gov/BlackoutReport-5.pdf

Reliable, Field-Proven & Adaptable

The XA/21 transmission management system controls generation and the
high voltage transmission network for optimal generation and
transmission of power.

One of the industry's most advanced EMS/SCADA systems, the XA/21
system combines advanced open systems architecture with full graphics,
power system application, historical information storage and retrieval
and relational database technology.

With well over one million hours of online operation, the XA/21 system
has improved utilities' bottom lines by helping to:

Enhance operational efficiency

http://www.gepower.com/prod_serv/products/scada_software/en/xa21.htm

note:  'Enhance operational efficiency'. That's management speak for
it takes less people to operate.


What is SCADA:
http://www.hackfaq.org/data_networks-23.shtml


quote from Bill Gates, Feb 14 1998

" ... It would help me immensely to have a survey showing that 90
percent of developers believe that putting the browser into the OS
makes sense. ... Ideally, we would have a survey like this done before
I appear at the Senate on March 3rd."
http://www.internetwk.com/news0199/news011599-3.htm

Bill Gates Feb 2004 ... what he might have said :-D

'It would help me immensely to have a survey showing that the blackout
was caused by Unix ... Ideally, we would have a survey like this done
before I appear at the RSA Conference in Feb'

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:45:44 PST
From: John Bartley or K7AAY@ARRL.NET <johnbartley3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Universal Email-to-SMS Gateway for NANP Cellular Systems, Beta Test


Email a short message to 
NpaNnxXxxx@teleflip.com and it appears as an SMS on user's cellphone.

  Npa = Area Code
  NnxXxxx = phone number

One test today took five minutes to get a message through.  Only 188
characters in test message received, including sending e-mail address
and subject line.  Remainder of message was discarded en route and did
not arrive as a subsequent SMS message.

Said to work for any cellphone on North Amewrican Numbering Plan (US,
Canada, Carribbean, Guam). Again, it's Beta, but possibly useful.

http://www.teleflip.com/teleflip/index.jsp

John Bartley K7AAY http://celdata.cjb.net Handheld's Cellular Data FAQ
"Politics is the business of getting power and privilege without
possessing merit." - P. J. O'Rourke

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    F.C.C. Begins Rewriting Rules on Delivery of the Internet (M Solomon)
    How Broadcasters Want to Silence Satellite Radio (Monty Solomon)
    These Phone Calls Aren't Phone Calls (Monty Solomon)
    The Plot to Stop the Internet Telephone Revolution (Monty Solomon)
    Lost Liberties / Outlawing Dissent (Monty Solomon)
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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: F.C.C. Begins Rewriting Rules on Delivery of the Internet
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:34:19 -0500


By STEPHEN LABATON

WASHINGTON, Feb. 12 - The Federal Communications Commission began
writing new rules today that officials and industry experts said would
profoundly alter both the way the Internet is delivered and used in
homes and businesses.

In one set of proceedings, the commission began writing regulations to
enable computer users to gain access to the Internet through electric
power lines. Consumers will be able to plug their modems directly into
the wall sockets just as they do with any garden variety appliance. 
Officials said the new rules, which are to be completed in the coming
months, would enable utilities to offer an alternative to the cable
and phone companies and provide an enormous possible benefit to rural
communities that are served by the power grid but not by broadband
providers.

In a second set of proceedings, commissioners began considering what
rules ought to apply to companies offering Internet space and software
to enable computer users to send and receive telephone calls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/12/technology/12CND-NET.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:33:59 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: How Broadcasters Want to Silence Satellite Radio


All Politics is Local:
How Broadcasters Want to Silence Satellite Radio

by Radley Balko

Most of the torrent of opposition to the FCC's modest proposal to
loosen media ownership restrictions last year stemmed from fears that
they'd lead to information flow and entertainment programming falling
into the hands of just a few behemoth media conglomerates. In a recent
issue of Reason magazine, Ben Compaine rather thoroughly elucidated
why those fears are unfounded. Still, if it's diversity media
consumers want, they should be thrilled with the onset and recent
success of satellite radio. The industry's two players -- XM and
Sirius -- offer a wide range of programming, hundreds of channels
between them that brush up against every conceivable musical niche, as
well as news, talk, sports, comedy, children's programming, and even
radio installments of cable programming from providers such as E! and
VH1. At just $10 or so a month, satellite radio for many has been a
welcome alternative to the rather dry, Top Forty-driven monotony of FM
radio.

Of course, any time a new competitor comes along with a new business 
model offering consumers new choices, the old guard gets its dander 
up, and inevitably turns to the federal government to protect its 
turf, and preserve market share. In this case, the old guard is one 
of the oldest, the National Association of Broadcasters. NAB is a 
dinosaur of the lobbying industry, both in its size and its age. And 
NAB isn't at all happy that radio listeners would rather pay for 
subscription radio than continue to endure the pap broadcast by its 
members.

http://www.cato.org/tech/tk/040120-tk.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:22:45 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: These Phone Calls Aren't Phone Calls


By Alex Salkever

The FCC's Feb. 12 ruling that computer-to-computer calls are exempt 
from telecom regs is the first blow in a new battle for the Bells.

If a phone call is sent digitally over the Internet, is it still a
phone call? Or is it a voice e-mail? That question has loomed over the
telecom sector for more than a year, as the industry awaited a ruling
from the Federal Communications Commission. At issue: new technologies
that allow cheap, easy phone calls over existing broadband Net
connections. On Feb. 12, the FCC replied with an initial answer that
should make the Baby Bells very nervous -- a voice call delivered
digitally over the public Internet is the same as an e-mail, as far as
the regulators are concerned.

The decision came at the behest of Jeff Pulver, the founder of
FreeWorldDialup, who had petitioned the FCC for a ruling that would
allow him to run his free-of-charge voice over Internet protocol
(VoIP) network without facing standard regulations that cover
old-school telecoms. Pulver's case was special: His network allows
only users who dial directly from one Net connection to another,
bypassing completely the public phone networks.

More controversial are calls that originate on the Internet and then
move through public phone networks. That's the service now being
offered by Vonage, Net2Phone, AT&T ( T), and numerous cable
companies. That's a real threat to the Bells' services, since it
allows customers to connect to anyone who has a phone.


http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2004/tc20040213_1268_tc024.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:12:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Plot to Stop the Internet Telephone Revolution


by Adam Thierer and Clyde Wayne Crews Jr.

Much has been written over the past few months about the revolutionary
potential of Internet telephony, or voice over Internet protocol
(VoIP) service. VoIP would let consumers make phone calls through an
Internet connection, largely bypassing traditional circuit-switched
wireline telephone networks. In time, some think it might come to
completely replace older phone networks.

In just a few short years, VoIP has gone from wishful thinking to
marketplace reality as numerous companies now plan to deploy such
services. This has also led many industry watchers to speak of VoIP as
a veritable deregulatory deus ex machina that potentially offers a
sudden and unexpected way to escape from the past century's regulatory
morass.


http://www.cato.org/tech/tk/040209-tk.html

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:27:17 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Lost Liberties / Outlawing dissent


Spying on peace meetings, cracking down on protesters, keeping secret 
files on innocent people -- how Bush's war on terror has become a war 
on freedom.

By Michelle Goldberg

Feb. 11, 2004 | The undercover cop introduced herself to the activists
from the Colorado Coalition Against the War in Iraq as Chris Hoffman,
but her real name was Chris Hurley. Last March, she arrived at a
nonviolence training session in Denver, along with another undercover
officer, Brad Wanchisen, whom she introduced as her boyfriend. The
session, held at the Escuela Tlatelolco, a Denver private school, was
organized to prepare activists for a sit-in at the Buckley Air
National Guard Base the next day, March 15. Hurley said she wanted to
participate. She said she was willing to get arrested for the cause of
peace. In fact, she did get arrested. She was just never charged. The
activists she protested with wouldn't find out why for months.

Chris Hurley was just one of many cops all over the country who went
undercover to spy on antiwar protesters last year. Nonviolent antiwar
groups in Fresno, Calif., Grand Rapids, Mich., and Albuquerque, N.M.,
have all been infiltrated or surveilled by undercover police
officers. Shortly after the Buckley protest, the Boulder group was
infiltrated a second time, by another pair of police posing as an
activist couple.

Meanwhile, protesters arrested at antiwar demonstrations in New York 
last spring were extensively questioned about their political 
associations, and their answers were entered into databases. And last 
week, a federal prosecutor in Des Moines, Iowa, obtained a subpoena 
demanding that Drake University turn over records from an antiwar 
conference called "Stop the Occupation! Bring the Iowa Guard Home!" 
that the school's chapter of the National Lawyers Guild, a civil 
libertarian legal group, hosted on Nov. 15 of last year, the day 
before a protest at the Iowa National Guard headquarters. Among the 
information the government sought was the names of the leaders of the 
Drake University Chapter of the National Lawyers Guild, its records 
dating back to January of 2002, and the names of everyone who 
attended the "Stop the Occupation!" conference. Four antiwar 
activists also received subpoenas in the investigation.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/11/cointelpro/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's really nothing new. Back in the
sixties and seventies, Chicago Police had an active 'red squad' whose
job it was (besides gassing and beating up war protestors and others)
was to spy and infiltrate churches and other peaceable gatherings of
citizens. I wonder why Salon thinks this is somehow a new story. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:29:21 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Lost Liberties / A thousand J. Edgar Hoovers


Lost Liberties
A thousand J. Edgar Hoovers

State and local police are taking it upon themselves to investigate
antiwar activists -- and in the computer age, the threat to our civil
liberties is even greater than it was in Hoover's day.

Editor's note: This is the second of a two-part series. Read Part 1.

By Michelle Goldberg

Feb. 12, 2004 | Political spying has many costs. One is that it
poisons communities, putting dissidents in the social position of
criminals, co-conspirators or untrustworthy elements. Jennifer
Albright, a 30-year-old lawyer in Albuquerque, N.M., believes such
spying cost her her job with the Bernalillo County district attorney's
office.

On Tuesday, March 25, two days after marching in a permitted
demonstration against the war, Albright, then an assistant district
attorney, was called into her boss's office and put on leave. The
reason? Local police said she had identified undercover agents in the
crowd at the protest, which she denies. Three days later, Albright was
fired.


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/12/dissent_two/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Again, this is supposed to be something
new? Of course computers have made the job of police (spying, gassing,
and general brutality) much easier. J. Edgar Hoover would be so proud
of how far his people have been able to get, spy-wise, in this age of
computers. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:31:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Acxiom is Watching You


Whenever you book a flight, this data-mining colossus will be turning 
over its files to John Ashcroft. Why did Wesley Clark lobby for what 
could become the biggest snooping operation of all time?

By Farhad Manjoo

Feb. 10, 2004 | On Saturday, Jan. 5, 2002, a 15-year-old boy named
Charles Bishop stole a single-engine Cessna airplane from the St.
Petersburg International Airport in Florida and crashed it into an
office building in Tampa. The boy, who was probably mentally
disturbed, died; no one else was hurt. Still, in the tense months
after the 9/11 attacks, Charles Bishop's flight was one of the dozens
of small, strange events that set the public imagination reeling over
the horrors surrounding airplanes, and cable news shows went into
overdrive to cover it. The next day on CNN, Wesley Clark, the retired
Army general who was at the time the network's military analyst, was
asked about "the situation in Tampa.... The fact that a teenager was
able to steal this plane and crash it into a building -- what does
that say about the general state of aviation security?"

"We've been worried about general aviation security for some time,"
Clark said. "The aircraft need to be secured, the airfields need to be
secured, and obviously we're going to also have to go through and do a
better job of screening who could fly aircraft, who the private pilots
are, who owns these aircraft. So it's going to be another major
effort."

That answer -- that pilots ought to face more-rigorous screening --
seemed logical enough; but according to some critics, Wesley Clark
might have had an ulterior motive in calling for more background
checks in aviation. What Clark, who is now campaigning for the
Democratic presidential nomination, did not tell the CNN audience was
that, months before the interview, he had been hired as a board member
and lobbyist for Acxiom, an Arkansas company that manages data
collected by large businesses on millions of Americans. Weeks after
the Sept. 11 attacks, the company developed a computerized system that
would perform instant identity checks on airline passengers.


http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/02/10/acxiom/

------------------------------

From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Qwest vs. Other Companies
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:28:00 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information


The following post is from another group, but may be of interest to
TELECOM Digest readers.  It's a response from an ISP tech guy to griping
about telco service in a Qwest area.  Since I don't have permission to
repost, I've sanitized it a tad to anonymize the author.

                 ------------------------------

As much as people gripe about Qwest, there are far far worse telco's
out there in the world. Since we deal with just about all of them
(either on a daily basis, because they are a given ILEC of an area
served [by us], which are Qwest, Frontier & Sprint), or have dealt
with them in the past.

The ones that spring to mind right away that are much much worse to
deal with than Qwest are

#3    Sprint
#2    McLeod USA
#1    MCI 

At MCI, it feels like you talk to a brick wall, and it sure seems like
its company policy to just ignore you, keep on billing you for
services after you've cancelled (well past the 6-month mark is an
*average*), and have CSR's that couldn't tell you what a phone is,
even though they are talking to you on one.

The Sprint CSR's usually don't even know if they offer a service or
not, and there's no supervisors to check with to see. I think for a
while there, they started cold calling up random potential customers,
and offering the weirdest things like DSL service for somebody in
downtown [city], even though they only service a few areas around
[far-out suburbs].  They'd even get some people to sign up, only to
call back in a couple months to explain that they really couldn't
offer service there.

I'd put Frontier and some of the CLEC's in the area in the upper edge
above Qwest in terms of ease to deal with.

Sure, there's some bad reps at Qwest, and their internal communication
is pretty lacking sometimes, but there's also some pretty good reps in
there too.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:08:41 PST
From: Chris Kantarjiev <cak@dimebank.com>
Subject: Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application


I think that before you dive into architecting and owning a lot of
hardware, you should consider building at least a prototype of your
application in Voice XML and doing a trial hosting with a voice ASP
such as Voxeo. They already own all the hardware and maintain a phone
network. When I was working with them, they made their system
available for free to developers, and had very good (and responsive)
technical support.

Check them out - www.voxeo.com. (Just a happy past customer.)

chris

------------------------------

From: ellis@no.spam
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:31:40 -0000
Organization: S.P.C.A.A.


In article <telecom23.70.11@telecom-digest.org>, Danny Burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

>	a) it'll downgrade images on a web page, making
>	them much smaller (bytewise) and moving them
>	across faster. So that 250k jpg you're downloading
>	from NASA's Mars collection will be replaced by
>	a, perhaps, 50k one. Faster d/l, but lossy.

Is there a way for a web author to tell them not to do that?  I really
don't like the idea of Netzero messing with my images.


http://www.spinics.net/photo/

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Blame General Electric for BlackOut says FirstEnergy
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:23:57 -0600


Daeron <doug_mentohl@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
 
> Poulsen reported that FirstEnergy engineers had bridged the nuclear
> plant's control network with FirstEnergy's corporate network -- a
> practice that is increasingly common among utility companies,
> according to industry and security experts."

I used to live about ten miles from the Perry nuke plant in North
Perry Village, the other Ohio nuclear plant owned by FirstEnergy.

I no longer live there, but my family still lives in the Cleveland
area, within easy driving distance of Perry.

Ironically, when I moved on June 29th of last year, I was *in*
Akron. My brother-in-law and mother-in-law flew into town to help us
move and were staying in Akron because it was cheaper to fly into
Akron than into Cleveland.

I was within a couple minutes walking distance of FirstEnergy. Perhaps I 
should have gone over to their headquarters and kicked a couple CxO's in
the head.

What is wrong with these people? 

> "The root cause of the outage was linked to .. trees .. FirstEnergy
> says .. its role in the outage is overstated in the interim report"

Uh-huh.

> Retrospective ass covering is all. I guess General Electric can't
> afford as much protection on Capitol Hill as MICROS~1. Get those
> cheque books out guys. It's election year!!!

Yeah ... well ... does the bug even exist, or is FirstEnergy lying?

Before we blame GE or even Microslop, I'd love to see an audit of
FirstEnergy's network. Not gonna happen, of course, but it would be
interesting reading.
 

JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:02:17 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information


It was a dark and stormy night when Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
wrote:

> How does that address the point that Geoffrey was making, which is
> that AV software won't recognize a virus that it hasn't specifically
> been taught about?

Some AV software does.  It watches or scans for "virus-like"
characteristics.  F-Prot is one such, but I think not the only.  Some
AV software also can store state info about files (checksums,
whatever) and warn if it changes.  Of course, if the software has been
taught about the virus (updates are usually available within a day or
so) identification is more positive.

Most software firewalls will raise a flag if a program tries to access
the 'net without permission, or if a program that has permission has
been modified since permission was given.  I use Kerio, but ZA and I
think the others are similar.  That *should* stop an email worm that
has its own SMTP engine.

> Unfortunately, this type of monitoring doesn't really work in the case
> of things like email worms.  As applications have become more complex
> and integrated, it's common for many different applications to access
> the address book and/or send out mail, so these alerts would be much
> more common from normal activities. 

Any software that goes through my Windows Address Book is going to
come up pretty dry, as I don't use it.  And don't use MS mail
programs, either.

> And there are also many more unsophisticated users, who wouldn't really 
> know how to respond to the alerts.

That is indeed a problem.  

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When I woke up this morning and stopped 
in the computer room on my way to my first cup of coffee and cigarette
for the day, there was the Windows 98 sitting there patiently waiting
for me with a message from Zone Alarm stating that 'program X wants to
access internet. Will you permit this? From sometime around 4 AM. It
was some kind of spyware thing trying to 'call home'. Of course I went
in and bashed the whole thing on the spot. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Michael Chance <mchance@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Telephone Service Surcharges
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:44:16 GMT


In article <telecom23.62.3@telecom-digest.org>, 
jared.NospaM@netspace.net.au says:

> Federal Excise Tax  3%  

> Tax mandated by the federal government imposed on all
> telecommunication services.

Isn't this the original telephone tax, which was enacted as a "luxury
tax" in about 1898 to help finance the Spanish-American War?  And
wasn't there an effort a couple of years ago to phase out this tax?


Michael Chance

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I thought the 'telephone luxury tax'
started about 1917 during the First War as a way to provide for the
soldiers. They won't be getting rid of it anytime soon, however. Even
though our president lied about the need to be in Iraq, (WMD and all
that malarkey) and he then declared officially that the hostilities
ended back in May of last year, we still have had any number of young
guys getting killed on a daily basis, and about five thousand new guys
shipped out for Iraq from North Carolina last week. Didn't someone
around here shake his finger at you and pronounce from his deseased
brain that by the time we finally get out of Iraq it would make
VietNam look like a summer church camp for little kids? 

If readers could have only been around Chicago during the week of 
August, 1968 when the Democrats had their riotous (not an exageration!)
convention in Chicago and the police followed up with a riot of their
own and went totally out of control with their gas and their clubs. Cell
phones had not yet been invented, and you could walk around for blocks
downtown looking for a single payphone to use which had not been 
vandalized beyond any use at all. **Iraq is shaping up the same way**
I am sad to say. PAT]

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    Offspring of Spam and Telemarketing (Monty Solomon)
    New Lawsuit Targets DVD Copying (Monty Solomon)
    State's New Technology Gathers Info to Find Tax Cheats (Monty Solomon)
    Amazon Glitch Unmasks War of Reviewers (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number (Stan)
    A Suspicious Netscape Icon on my DeskTop (Kan Yabumoto)
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 01:57:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Offspring of Spam and Telemarketing


Firms using prizes and discounts to get customers to request
text-message ads

By Sasha Talcott, Globe Correspondent, 2/14/2004

Jessica Yang had just walked out of work when her cellphone beeped. 
"Rainy day special," the text message read, urging the 26-year-old 
research analyst to stop by the Paris Creperie in Brookline for a 
discount on crepes and other items.

"It was like, 'Great, I don't have to cook dinner tonight,' " Yang 
said. She promptly ordered her favorite: ham and egg crepe.

With spam clogging e-mail boxes, telemarketers calling at all hours, 
and mailboxes stuffed with junk mail, the cellphone has become one of 
the consumer's last ad-free oases. But not for long. Marketing 
companies are increasingly targeting the text-messaging feature of 
cellphones as an effective way to push customers to open their 
wallets.

The new text-messaging ads have a twist, however. Learning from the 
backlash against unsolicited e-mail spam, marketers are going to 
great lengths to persuade customers to actually ask to receive the 
ads on their phones.

By dangling discounts, prizes or trivia questions, the companies aim 
to make the ads worth a customer's while.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/02/14/offspring_of_spam_and_telemarketing/

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:02:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New Lawsuit Targets DVD Copying


By John Borland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The DVD Copy Control Association, a Hollywood-backed technology 
group, filed suit against software company 321 Studios on Friday for 
allegedly infringing patent rights on its DVD copy protection.

The suit is the fourth set of claims to be filed against 321 Studios, 
which markets the most popular DVD copying software commercially 
available. Previously, the company has been sued in both California 
and in New York by coalitions of Hollywood studios and by 
Macrovision, another copy-protection technology company.

The DVD CCA recently dropped lawsuits against individuals who posted 
code used in the process of copying DVDs online. After that decision, 
the group said it would use other tactics to defend its intellectual 
property.

http://news.com.com/2100-1025-5159279.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:18:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: State's New Technology Gathers Information to Find Tax Cheats


By linking to databases, individuals can be profiled

By Bruce Mohl, Globe Staff, 2/15/2004

If you get the urge to fudge a bit on your taxes this year because you
think, "Who's going to notice?" think again. The state Revenue
Department is watching. The agency has launched a technology offensive
with the goal of pulling together stray bits of information about
every Massachusetts taxpayer, searching for clues that would indicate
who isn't paying the taxes they owe.

State officials dismiss the notion they are playing Big Brother, but
the potential is rather Orwellian. In theory, said Revenue Department
Commissioner Alan LeBovidge, the state may eventually be able to track
down so much information about a resident's finances that the state,
rather than the individual, could complete the individual's tax
return.

http://www.boston.com/business/taxes/articles/2004/02/15/states_new_technology_gathers_information_to_find_tax_cheats/

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:21:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Amazon Glitch Unmasks War of Reviewers


By AMY HARMON

Close observers of Amazon.com noticed something peculiar this week:
the company's Canadian site had suddenly revealed the identities of
thousands of people who had anonymously posted book reviews on the
United States site under signatures like "a reader from New York."

The weeklong glitch, which Amazon fixed after outed reviewers 
complained, provided a rare glimpse at how writers and readers are 
wielding the online reviews as a tool to promote or pan a book -- when 
they think no one is watching.

John Rechy, author of the best-selling 1963 novel "City of Night" and 
winner of the PEN-USA West lifetime achievement award, is one of 
several prominent authors who have apparently pseudonymously written 
themselves five-star reviews, Amazon's highest rating. Mr. Rechy, who 
laughed about it when approached, sees it as a means to survival when 
online stars mean sales.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/technology/14AMAZ.html

------------------------------

From: Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com>
Subject: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 05:45:20 GMT
Organization: RoadRunner - Carolina


Bidders Hot for Jenny's NYC Number
Verizon may hang up on plan to sell 867-5309

By Monty Phan
STAFF WRITER

Newsday (Long Island)
February 14, 2004

To all Manhattan women named Jenny: He's got your number.

Combining the forces of '80s pop culture and offbeat Internet
auctions, a Manhattan man is using eBay to try to sell 212-867-5309,
the number -- sans area code -- that appears in the 1981 song
"867-5309/Jenny," by one-hit wonder Tommy Tutone.

The question is whether he has the right to sell a number at all.

That hasn't stopped bidders so far. Thanks to some Web site postings
and a mention Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America," the auction is
up to $4,050.

"I did not expect this kind of response," said John, the attorney
selling the number, who declined to give his last name to maintain
some semblance of anonymity. "I'm blown away by the fact that 'Good
Morning America' found it.  Publicists spend months trying to get on
'Good Morning America,' and I just put it up on eBay [Thursday]."

He acquired the number a few months ago after he called it and
realized no one had it. He then got the number from Verizon and has
used it as a second line, hooking it up to an answering machine. As
discovered by people over the past two decades who had their own area
code's version of the number, he gets calls throughout the week, but
"mostly on weekends, mostly from people that are drunk." Some call it
for fun, others call it without realizing it was given out as a fake
number.

But there's a question of whether the number can even be transferred
to the winner once the auction ends Feb. 22. Verizon says there's no
question: It can't. Individuals do not have ownership of the numbers
given to them, so the right to the number can't be sold, a Verizon
spokesman said. Even if the seller agreed to drop the number, there's
usually a waiting period to allow for account closure or other
reasons, so the buyer wouldn't be able to pick it up right away.

Nevertheless, those who lose out on the bidding, take heart: You could
always get the "867-5309/Jenny" ring tone.

------------------------------

From: tech@xxcopy.com (Kan Yabumoto)
Subject: A Suspicious Netscape Icon on my DeskTop
Date: 14 Feb 2004 11:19:05 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I wonder if anyone had a similar experience as mine.

When I booted up my XP-Pro computer this morning, I noticed a few
funny things.  The desktop icons are all re-arranged (for the first
time in many months --- this reminded me of the Win9X experience which
did this from time to time).  I have quite a few icons everywhere on
my screen.  They are strategically arranged for optimum productivity.
Then, I noticed a new icon near the center of the screen -- a
familiar Netscape icon (the cute N logo on the Earth I used to like
 -- that was before the Netscape that we knew was demolished by
Micro$oft's illegal action).

I grew suspicious of the whole thing for several reasons:

  1. I have a hunch that the icon re-arrangement on my desktop
     did not happen by accident (like in the Win9X system).
     It is probably a result of placing the unwelcome icon for
     Netscape (which is labeled "Netscape ISP Try It Now")
     in the middle to get my attention by some uninvited
     software which placed it there.
     
  2. I run the Ad-Aware utility almost everyday to keep unwelcome
     guest from messing around my computer's settings.  Somehow,
     the presence of the Netscape Icon is a proof that something
     defeated the Ad-Aware defense.
     
  3. Is this (virus-like) behavior a way to get new customer?
     Certainly not for a self-respecting company.  But, if this
     is by a company once owned by a crook like Steve Case, that
     explains.

  4. Netscape is supposedly part of AOL and is apparently trying
     to start a new ISP business at $9.95/mon.  It claims $9.95
     per month for an unlimited Internet access with personal
     Email -- from anywhere in the country.   But, AOL is still
     doing their business with existing customer at $23.90
     (they should offer the same rate to all of their existing
     customers).
     
  5. I was curious as to what is the catch.  So, I proceeded to
     sign up (I did not give my credit card number, of course).
     (I have a broadband (cable) access and don't need dial up.) 
     The contract agreement was relatively brief and does not
     talk much (i.e., they do not promise anything, not even
     the bandwidth of the connection, or list of connection
     numbers -- their web sites don't mention).

  6. The agreement even explicitly gives them a blank check to
     "optimize" the users' Internet "experience".  (The terms
     almost promise to rape your system.) 
     
  7. The fine print says I have to pay additional fee for
     the "Premium service" whatever that means.
     
  8. Only a fool will proceed to get into the contract because
     you have to give them your credit card number and accept
     their terms before you know what you are getting.
                                                     
BTW, the Netscape icon that mysteriously appered on my Desktop is a
link to the following sign-up form:

    https://register.isp.netscape.com/default.jsp?promo=NS_2_6_2_2003_12_6

The brief description of the service can be viewed from:
 
    http://www.getnetscape.com/index.adp?promo=NS_2_7_7_2003_10_2

But, this leads you to download a silly commercial video footage
without any technical substance.  The whole presentation is extremely
vague.

In conclusion, my point is:

I'm quite disturbed by the appearance of the Netscape Icon on my
computer.  This is not by a no-name company.  It is one of the largest
companies and it blatantly disturbed my computer and placed this
unwelcome icon on my desktop.  Furthermore, it lures the user to a
binding contract with full of foul smell ... Has anyone seen the same
thing?  If you have seen it, what's your take on this?


Kan

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Did you ever notice how many useless
icons America Online puts on your desktop behind your back whenever
you do an upgrade with them, or change to their DSL instead of the
dialup so many of their users are used to? Same difference.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments
Date: 14 Feb 2004 12:51:39 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Do NANP counties use a 'standard' area-code for cellphones as opposed
to the UK (cell phone numbers begin with 07XXX) or other countries, where
different codes are required?

Just asking!  :-)

Rob

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Lost Liberties / A Thousand J. Edgar Hoovers
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 14:06:42 -0500


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.72.6@telecom-digest.org:

> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/12/dissent_two/

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Again, this is supposed to be something
> new? Of course computers have made the job of police (spying, gassing,
> and general brutality) much easier. J. Edgar Hoover would be so proud
> of how far his people have been able to get, spy-wise, in this age of
> computers. PAT]

Again, yes, it is new. The FBI had been stopped from doing that until Bush
II.

Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.72.5@telecom-digest.org:

> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/11/cointelpro/

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's really nothing new. Back in the
> sixties and seventies, Chicago Police had an active 'red squad' whose
> job it was (besides gassing and beating up war protestors and others)
> was to spy and infiltrate churches and other peaceable gatherings of
> citizens. I wonder why Salon thinks this is somehow a new story. PAT]

Because the practice was later banned due to abuses of civil liberties,
until Herr rather Mr. Ashcroft came along.


McWebber
"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:54:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Ramirez <blackflamesxiii@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Norvergence Still at it ...


Didn't you write that it was the DEFENDANT'S lawyer (Acosta) that had
demanded you to remove the derog comments?  What does that have to do
with Norvergence still being "at it"?
 
-RR

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes I did say that. But I have been 
told that Norvergence (who started the whole problem with the 
discharge from employment of the defendant) has now agreed to drop
their lawsuit against the defendant *on the condition* that the
defendant go about the net and get the derogatory comments about
Norvengence removed from the various archives and newsgroups where
they appear. In other words, Norvergence (who started the whole 
thing) will lay off on the Defendant if *I* will cooperate in the
removal of messages here. That's why Norvergence is still 'at it'.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Teritor <egnil1494@zeriten.net>
Subject: Re: Acxiom is Watching You
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:31:08 -0600
Organization: deamon


Either post the entire article or don't post at all.

I don't want to have to subscribe or watch ads to read the rest of
this!

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:31:44 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> Whenever you book a flight, this data-mining colossus will be turning 
> over its files to John Ashcroft. Why did Wesley Clark lobby for what 
> could become the biggest snooping operation of all time?

> By Farhad Manjoo

> Feb. 10, 2004 | On Saturday, Jan. 5, 2002, a 15-year-old boy named
> Charles Bishop stole a single-engine Cessna airplane from the St.
> Petersburg International Airport in Florida and crashed it into an
> office building in Tampa. The boy, who was probably mentally
> disturbed, died; no one else was hurt. Still, in the tense months
> after the 9/11 attacks, Charles Bishop's flight was one of the dozens
> of small, strange events that set the public imagination reeling over
> the horrors surrounding airplanes, and cable news shows went into
> overdrive to cover it. The next day on CNN, Wesley Clark, the retired
> Army general who was at the time the network's military analyst, was
> asked about "the situation in Tampa.... The fact that a teenager was
> able to steal this plane and crash it into a building -- what does
> that say about the general state of aviation security?"

> "We've been worried about general aviation security for some time,"
> Clark said. "The aircraft need to be secured, the airfields need to be
> secured, and obviously we're going to also have to go through and do a
> better job of screening who could fly aircraft, who the private pilots
> are, who owns these aircraft. So it's going to be another major
> effort."

> That answer -- that pilots ought to face more-rigorous screening --
> seemed logical enough; but according to some critics, Wesley Clark
> might have had an ulterior motive in calling for more background
> checks in aviation. What Clark, who is now campaigning for the
> Democratic presidential nomination, did not tell the CNN audience was
> that, months before the interview, he had been hired as a board member
> and lobbyist for Acxiom, an Arkansas company that manages data
> collected by large businesses on millions of Americans. Weeks after
> the Sept. 11 attacks, the company developed a computerized system that
> would perform instant identity checks on airline passengers.

> http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/02/10/acxiom/

------------------------------

From: Michael Chance <mchance@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Telephone Service Surcharges
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:12:37 GMT


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I thought the 'telephone luxury tax'
> started about 1917 during the First War as a way to provide for the
> soldiers. They won't be getting rid of it anytime soon, however.

[ remainder of moderator comments deleted ]

Now I'm sorry that I asked the question.  If I'd know that it would
have sent Pat off on an error-laden, near libelous rant against
President Bush, I never would have bothered.  Diseased brain or not,
that was uncalled for.

I'm more than willing to debate Pat on the points in which he's got his 
facts and assumptions wrong, but this isn't a political forum (at least 
I didn't think that it was), but a telecom one (which is what I thought 
that I was attempting to discuss).  My mistake, and I apologize to the 
rest of the readers for inflicting this on you all.


Michael Chance

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:34:49 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: My New Blog (Weblog)


Michael Chance and egnil1494 both raise good points of interest in
their two messages in this issue. First of all, egnil says run the
entire article or don't run it; he does not like reading ads or having
to subscribe (to Salon). The trouble is, when you 'borrow' articles
from other sources as Monty Solomon does and I sometimes do, you can
either do an excerpt or *very occassionally* run the entire article
under the 'fair use' provisions of the copyright laws. Those of you
who follow this Digest know I rely on a very liberal interpretation of
the copyright 'fair use' provisions. 

The Cornell University Law School says I am within my rights to do
this. I've no doubt I can do this, but when a newsgroup takes a total
free ride by continually using the research/writing of others
**without compensating them** it begins to get sort of brazen. Of
course, I could compensate the authors also, e.g. have advertisements,
sell subscriptions, etc, but that poses other problems as well. So my
'compromise' is to rely on 'fair use' (as defined by Cornell) quite
often and rely on links to the actual article in other cases. 

Usually, I wind up accepting Monty Solomon's material as he chooses to
edit it; if he sends the full article then I append the 'fair use'
message at its conclusion; if he sends a link then I use the
link. Ditto the other contributors here who send that kind of
material. Link or full article with fair use disclaimer, as it arrives
here. Or, if sometimes a reader sends a large (not) original article
but does not appeal to 'fair use' at the bottom of the article, then I
append that statement from my files here. So, egnil, really, I try
hard -- my best -- to make good judgment calls on this. If I had an
endowment -- or even made more than a half-hearted/non-existent
effort to ENFORCE a subscription policy here, then I could use that
money to join the syndicates that Salon, Yahoo, and others belong to
and begin printing the same articles in full here, with no
compunctions. Lacking that endowment (or source of funds) my
compromise is to occassionally force readers to make their virgin
eyes(!)  see 'advertisements' now and then from Salon and the better
quality web sites. Seriously, like President Carter, I lust in my
heart to operate a first class site like Salon. I only wish there was
money available to me to do it. So egnil, how would *you* have me do
it?

Now on to Michael Chance and his more serious complaint, about how bad
my brain desease has gotten (!!) I AGREE. The time has come to *split*
my writing/rambling into parts; one part for telecom and the other 
part for my increasing concerns over the downright *evil* things which
are starting to return to our country, compliments of our born-again
president and his band of cronies. All during the 1960-70's, I was,
well, to put it politely, an 'anti-war' activist. You will see my
propensities for same if you google up my *very old* messages from
chinet and the old BBS lines which have survived in the archives of
on the net from the late seventies/early eighties. Then in the middle
1980's, when I inherited TELECOM Digest, I promised to 'behave myself'
and I periodically renew that promise or commitment from time to time
but then our deranged president or his staff do something *so outrageous* 
or *so incredible* that I bubble over. No doubt it is my diseased
brain acting up again. The way I have decided to handle that is with a
web log, or 'blog' which I invite all of you to participate in if you
wish.  You can be anonymous or real, as you wish when posting messages
in the blog at http://patricktownson-live.us.tf . And if you want to
see if I am in my computer room at work, look at
http://patricktownson.us.tf  (where you will find a link to the blog.)
Its been going for about a week or so; you might want to catch up on
the older entries. And use the 'comment on this' link to add your own
thoughts. Thank you, Michael, for giving me the impetus I needed to 
finally make it happen.

Patrick Townson

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments (email@crazyhat.net)
    Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments (Jared)
    Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments (Joseph)
    Re: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number (Nick Landsberg)
    Re: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number (Tony P.)
    Re: My New Blog (WebLog) (Steven J Sobol)
    Re: Acxiom is Watching You (Steven J Sobol)
    Telephones With Intercom Capability? (Timur Tabi)
    Re: State's New Technology Gathers Info to Find Tax Cheats (L. Hancock)
    Re: Lost Liberties / Outlawing Dissent (Lisa Hancock)
    Experts Warn of Microsoft 'Monoculture' (Monty Solomon)
    Friendster Frenzy Has Analysts Puzzled (Monty Solomon)

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Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:02:07 -0700
From: <email@crazyhat.net>


In message <<telecom23.73.7@telecom-digest.org>> rob51166@yahoo.com
(Rob) did ramble:

> Do NANP counties use a 'standard' area-code for cellphones as
> opposed to the UK (cell phone numbers begin with 07XXX) or other
> countries, where different codes are required?

There is typically a number of NXXs assigned for cellphones, but not a
dedicated area code.

This means that a caller typically has no way to know whether they are
calling a cell phone, landline, VoIP phone, or anything else, unless
they happen to know the NXXs of the area in question.

It also makes full portability possible.


When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:12:25 -0700
From: jared.NospaM@netspace.net.au (jared)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments


In the USA part of the NANP at least, the FCC, the American approximation
to OFTEL, banned doing so. There was cell phone area code that predated
the decision, I'm not sure what happened to it.

A prefix isn't needed in the USA as it's not caller-pays for calls to
mobiles, instead the mobile phone owner pays for the call
time. Roaming is interesting too: whether the caller pays a local or
long distance rate depends on the mobile phone's area code, not where
it happens to be with respect to the caller.

> Do NANP counties use a 'standard' area-code for cellphones as opposed
> to the UK (cell phone numbers begin with 07XXX) or other countries, where
> different codes are required?

> Just asking!  :-)

> Rob

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:28:21 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On 14 Feb 2004 12:51:39 -0800, rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote:

> Do NANP counties use a 'standard' area-code for cellphones as opposed
> to the UK (cell phone numbers begin with 07XXX) or other countries, where
> different codes are required?

If you mean mobile specific area codes such as T-Mobile in the UK
being 07950 no.  There are mobile "prefixes" but they are treated just
as any other area code and prefix e.g. 206-235-XXXX or 206-229-XXXX
would be T-Mobile US prefixes in Seattle, Washington and 206-669-XXXX
or 206-331-XXXX would be AT&T Wireless prefixes in Seattle,
Washington.  As far as the normal telephone user it wouldn't make any
difference.  It would make a difference if you are a subscriber of a
mobile carrier and you have either reduced or free mobile-to-mobile
calling.  Unlike in Europe and Asia calls to mobile numbers are no
more expensive than calling fixed wireline numbers.


           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:22:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Stan wrote:

> Bidders Hot for Jenny's NYC Number
> Verizon may hang up on plan to sell 867-5309

> By Monty Phan
> STAFF WRITER

> Newsday (Long Island)
> February 14, 2004

> To all Manhattan women named Jenny: He's got your number.

> Combining the forces of '80s pop culture and offbeat Internet
> auctions, a Manhattan man is using eBay to try to sell 212-867-5309,
> the number -- sans area code -- that appears in the 1981 song
> "867-5309/Jenny," by one-hit wonder Tommy Tutone.

> The question is whether he has the right to sell a number at all.

> That hasn't stopped bidders so far. Thanks to some Web site postings
> and a mention Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America," the auction is
> up to $4,050.

> "I did not expect this kind of response," said John, the attorney
> selling the number, who declined to give his last name to maintain
> some semblance of anonymity. "I'm blown away by the fact that 'Good
> Morning America' found it.  Publicists spend months trying to get on
> 'Good Morning America,' and I just put it up on eBay [Thursday]."

> He acquired the number a few months ago after he called it and
> realized no one had it. He then got the number from Verizon and has
> used it as a second line, hooking it up to an answering machine. As
> discovered by people over the past two decades who had their own area
> code's version of the number, he gets calls throughout the week, but
> "mostly on weekends, mostly from people that are drunk." Some call it
> for fun, others call it without realizing it was given out as a fake
> number.

> But there's a question of whether the number can even be transferred
> to the winner once the auction ends Feb. 22. Verizon says there's no
> question: It can't. Individuals do not have ownership of the numbers
> given to them, so the right to the number can't be sold, a Verizon
> spokesman said. Even if the seller agreed to drop the number, there's
> usually a waiting period to allow for account closure or other
> reasons, so the buyer wouldn't be able to pick it up right away.

> Nevertheless, those who lose out on the bidding, take heart: You could
> always get the "867-5309/Jenny" ring tone.

Way back when, 30 or so years ago when I was with what was then New
York Tel., there was a "gentleman's agreement" between the local
stations and the phone company that they would not use a dummy number
on a show without first notifying the phone company and asking them
for a number which would always ring busy or provide some kind of
pre-recorded message, e.g. "we're sorry, the call could not be
completed as dialed".  The NOC had a slew of unused numbers they could
quickly program for this treatment and would gladly provide it in
order to prevent network congestion when the show was aired.

I guess this isn't possible any more what with national TV and the
unlikelihood of the same number being unassigned in every area code.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:59:27 GMT


In article <telecom23.73.5@telecom-digest.org>, 
stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com says:

> Bidders Hot for Jenny's NYC Number
> Verizon may hang up on plan to sell 867-5309

> By Monty Phan
> STAFF WRITER

> Newsday (Long Island)
> February 14, 2004

> To all Manhattan women named Jenny: He's got your number.

> Combining the forces of '80s pop culture and offbeat Internet
> auctions, a Manhattan man is using eBay to try to sell 212-867-5309,
> the number -- sans area code -- that appears in the 1981 song
> "867-5309/Jenny," by one-hit wonder Tommy Tutone.

Interestingly enough - Gem Plumbing in Rhode Island is 401-867-5309. 

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: My New Blog (Web log)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:11:49 -0600


TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> wrote:

> under the 'fair use' provisions of the copyright laws. Those of you
> who follow this Digest know I rely on a very liberal interpretation of
> the copyright 'fair use' provisions. 

> The Cornell University Law School says I am within my rights to do
> this. I've no doubt I can do this, but when a newsgroup takes a total
> free ride by continually using the research/writing of others
> **without compensating them** it begins to get sort of brazen.

I agree, and for that reason I don't have a problem with Monty Solomon
continuing to post just the first paragraph or two along with a
link. Of course, it'd be nice if he also posted real conversations so
we could all figure out that he's not a "bot" :)
 

JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Acxiom is Watching You
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:14:18 -0600


Teritor <egnil1494@zeriten.net> wrote:

> Either post the entire article or don't post at all.

> I don't want to have to subscribe or watch ads to read the rest of
> this!

If you're not paying Salon for a subscription, they have every right
to make their money in other ways. It takes quite a bit of money to
run a magazine. Or do you think they should just post stuff for free
for you, when they charge everyone else?

Plus, there are copyright issues with posting the entire thing.

If you don't want to follow the links you don't have to. I don't
always read all of the articles that Monty posts links to.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: nospam_timur@tabi.org (Timur Tabi)
Subject: Telephones With Intercom Capability?
Date: 15 Feb 2004 16:50:34 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Do telephones with intercom capabilities exist?  What I would like to
do is replace all of the phones in my house with new phones that have
an intercom capability.  For example, I press the "intercom" button on
my phone, and my voice is broadcast too all other phones in the house.

Each phone jack in my house is wired with Cat5 cable, so I can support
up to four phone lines at each jack.  I would expect this "intercom
phone" to use one of the extra pairs for the intercom capability.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, and in fact you can make your own
intercom from a telephone pair quite easily. Radio Shack has the kind
of phone you need as well as many other suppliers. PAT]

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
Subject: Re: State's New Technology Gathers Information to Find Tax Cheats
Date: 15 Feb 2004 21:43:32 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: 

> If you get the urge to fudge a bit on your taxes this year because you
> think, "Who's going to notice?" think again. The state Revenue
> Department is watching. The agency has launched a technology offensive
> with the goal of pulling together stray bits of information about
> every Massachusetts taxpayer, searching for clues that would indicate
> who isn't paying the taxes they owe.

This isn't anything new.  Most states interface with the Federal IRS
to compare notes.  Most sources of income submit that data to the tax
people.

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
Subject: Re: Lost Liberties / Outlawing dissent
Date: 15 Feb 2004 21:48:27 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> Feb. 11, 2004 | The undercover cop introduced herself to the activists
> from the Colorado Coalition Against the War in Iraq as Chris Hoffman,
> but her real name was Chris Hurley. Last March, she arrived at a
> nonviolence training session in Denver...
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 

> ... She said she was willing to get arrested for the cause of
> peace. In fact, she did get arrested. She was just never charged. The
> activists she protested with wouldn't find out why for months.

I found this post rather disturbing, but not for what you'd
think.

As the article makes clear, the protestors were planning to do
something that was _illegal_.  Thus, they were planning to commit a
criminal act.  That is not peaceable protest; that is crime.

Activists defend their criminal activity on the grounds that their
message is so important it "justifies" the crime and disruption.

> Chris Hurley was just one of many cops all over the country who went
> undercover to spy on antiwar protesters last year. Nonviolent antiwar
> groups in Fresno, Calif., Grand Rapids, Mich., and Albuquerque, N.M.,
> have all been infiltrated or surveilled by undercover police
> officers. Shortly after the Buckley protest, the Boulder group was
> infiltrated a second time, by another pair of police posing as an
> activist couple.

> Meanwhile, protesters arrested at antiwar demonstrations in New York 
> last spring were extensively questioned about their political 
> associations, and their answers were entered into databases. And last 
> week, a federal prosecutor in Des Moines, Iowa, obtained a subpoena 
> demanding that Drake University turn over records from an antiwar 
> conference called "Stop the Occupation! Bring the Iowa Guard Home!" 
> that the school's chapter of the National Lawyers Guild, a civil 
> libertarian legal group, hosted on Nov. 15 of last year, the day 
> before a protest at the Iowa National Guard headquarters. Among the 
> information the government sought was the names of the leaders of the 
> Drake University Chapter of the National Lawyers Guild, its records 
> dating back to January of 2002, and the names of everyone who 
> attended the "Stop the Occupation!" conference. Four antiwar 
> activists also received subpoenas in the investigation.

> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/11/cointelpro/

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's really nothing new. Back in the
> sixties and seventies, Chicago Police had an active 'red squad' whose
> job it was (besides gassing and beating up war protestors and others)
> was to spy and infiltrate churches and other peaceable gatherings of
> citizens. I wonder why Salon thinks this is somehow a new story. PAT]

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And that legal theory, of a 'greater
good' has been upheld occassionally now and then in courts. If someone
is in the process (or imminitly about to commit an illegal action,
and no police officer is around to stop the act, then if a citizen
can stop the act he should. Then it rightly becomes a matter for the
courts to straighten out, but now and then the citizen intervenor has
been found innocent of what he did, because of a 'greater good'.
Taken in the context of what went on in this case, police did not
handle it very well. In any event, the police traditionally over-react
in the matter. They could announce their presence at a meeting rather
than go 'undercover' and encourage people to commit the 'crimes'. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:40:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Experts Warn of Microsoft 'Monoculture'


By JUSTIN POPE AP Business Writer

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Dan Geer lost his job, but gained his
audience. The very idea that got the computer security expert fired
has sparked serious debate in information technology.

The idea, borrowed from biology, is that Microsoft Corp. has nurtured
a software "monoculture" that threatens global computer security.

Geer and others believe Microsoft's software is so dangerously
pervasive that a virus capable of exploiting even a single flaw in its
operating systems could wreak havoc.

Just this past week, Microsoft warned customers about security
problems that independent experts called among the most serious yet
disclosed. Network administrators could only hope users would download
the latest patch.

After he argued in a paper published last fall that the monoculture
amplifies online threats, Geer was fired by security firm (at)stake
Inc., which has had Microsoft as a major client.

Geer insists there's been a silver lining to his dismissal. Once it
got discussed on Slashdot.org and other online forums, the debate
about Microsoft's ubiquity gained in prominence.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40607715

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:43:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Friendster Frrenzy Has Analysts Puzzled


By Lisa Baertlein

SAN FRANCISCO, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Unlike the
companion-seeking hipsters that people its Web site, Friendster
has had no trouble making friends -- especially among venture
capitalists.

But when it comes to business, surely friendship has its limits -- or
does it?

Analysts are scratching their heads and puzzling over how Friendster
 -- and the other so-called social e-networking companies that have
emerged as the upstart Internet success story of the past year -- can
make money.

Friendster, which is known as a dating site that hooks up friends of
friends, last year pulled in $13 million in venture capital -- a
significant amount considering the tough climate for new venture
funding. Business-oriented Spoke and LinkedIn picked up $20.5 million
and $4.7 million respectively.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40606640

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    Usage Numbers, Nortel/Motorola, Others vrs. Lucent (Dakshin) 
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    Re: Telephones With Intercom Capability? (SELLCOM Tech support)
    Re: NetZero Commercials on Television (nospam@nothere.com)
    Re: Lost Liberties / Outlawing Dissent (William Warren)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:54:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Exploit Based on Leaked Windows Code Released


By Patrick Gray, SecurityFocus

Exploit based on leaked Windows code released

A vulnerability in Internet Explorer 5 is the first to surface from 
last week's source code spill.

By Patrick Gray

The first new security vulnerability to emerge from last week's
Microsoft source code leak crossed a security mailing list over the
weekend, reigniting debate over the seriousness of the leak.

The vulnerability affects Internet Explorer 5 and various versions of 
Outlook Express. It was unearthed in code the two programs use to 
process bitmap image files, and affects the software on several 
versions of Windows, including 98, 2000 and XP. While some systems 
appear to be immune to the glitch, a proof-of-concept exploit that 
was posted to the Full Disclosure mailing list crashes Outlook 
Express 6 on Windows XP systems. Service Pack 1 appears to correct 
the vulnerability.

The exploit is a carefully-constructed bitmap file that "clobbers the 
stack" with data when opened in a vulnerable application, according 
to the author of the exploit, who calls himself "GTA." By corrupting 
a targeted system's memory in a controlled way, an attacker could 
likely use the flaw to execute arbitrary code on a vulnerable machine.


http://www.securityfocus.com/news/8060

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Monty Solomon Postings (was My New Blog (Web log))
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:28:13 EST
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Steven Sobol writes in comp.dcom.telecom:

> ... I don't have a problem with Monty Solomon continuing to post
> just the first paragraph or two [of newspaper and similar articles]
> along with a link.  Of course, it'd be nice if he also posted real
> conversations so we could all figure out that he's not a "bot" :)

This is my feeling also.  The one thing that does bother me when I come
across Monty's postings is that they're formatted as if he was claiming
to have written the excerpts he quotes.

On Usenet as in real life, it is conventional to explicitly mark
quoted text -- for a long passage of multiple paragraphs, usually one
gives an attribution before the text *and* does some sort of
indentation.  In addition, one usually includes some words of one's
own to make it obvious *why* one is quoting this passage, although I
appreciate that that might be difficult for a person who is a bulk
quoting machine. :-)

To me, having text that suddenly ends and is followed by a URL just
doesn't do the job.  Yes, people will get used to it -- it doesn't
bother *me* as much as it used to -- but they shouldn't have to.
I think Monty needs to reform, or at least reformat. :-)

(I'm Ccing this to the moderator of comp.risks, where Monty's postings
also sometimes appear.  The mystical "notsp" in the subject line is for
his benefit.)


Mark Brader, Toronto    |   "No flames were used in the creation of
msb@vex.net             |    this message."               -- Ray Depew

My text in this article is in the public domain.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:55:44 PST
From: Peter G. Neumann <neumann@csl.sri.com>
Subject: Re: Monty Solomon Postings (was: My New Blog (Web log))


Good comments.  I use relatively little of Monty's stuff, and 
often put the real author's name in the subject line.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mr. Neumann is the moderator of RISKS,
a prominent journal on internet.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: okleine@hotmail.com (BigO)
Subject: Sound Quality of Skype
Date: 16 Feb 2004 11:13:23 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I have a friend deep down in Africa whom I'm trying to contact via
Skype. I have a BT Broadband line and it works very well with other
people having such a connection. Unfortunately, this friend of mine
has only got an analogue line. When trying to call me, he can
understand me very well, but I can only hear bits and pieces of what
he says. Is there a chance of reducing the quality of his mike in
order to reduce the datastream and thus have probably a terribly
sounding but at least understandable voice?  

Thanks in advance!  

O

------------------------------

From: dakshing64@yahoo.com (Bush will disarm all workers next)
Subject: Usage Numbers (ccs/erlang) Nortel/Motorola vrs. Lucent 5E 
Date: 16 Feb 2004 13:31:49 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Two weeks ago, I asked a query about the usage (ccs/erlang) numbers of
Nortel (DMS) and Motorola (EMX) switches vis-a-vis Lucent 5E. I'm
hoping a number of telco people knowledgeable about basics are reading
this news group. My apology for reminding. Is there a better way to
get my query answered by posting to another group or subscribing to a
mailing list? Any suggestions are most welcome.


Thanks,

Dakshin

------------------------------

Date: 16 Feb 2004 09:58:38 EST
From: Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles B. Wilber)
Subject: World-Wide Cellular Coverage


What are the best answers to an administrator who asks for a cell
phone that can be used "all over the world?" I am not aware of any
service (GSM or otherwise) that will work reliably all over the
world. I have also read that it is often best to get cell service
locally when traveling to other countries, at least from a cost point
of view. Are there any alternatives besides satellite phones?  Do even
those provide reliable world-wide coverage?

All suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Please reply directly to
me as well as to the listserv. Thank you.


Charlie Wilber
Telephone Systems Manager
Dartmouth College
Hanover, New Hampshire

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Telephones With Intercom Capability?
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:06:11 GMT


nospam_timur@tabi.org (Timur Tabi) posted on that vast internet
thingie:

> Do telephones with intercom capabilities exist?  What I would like to
> do is replace all of the phones in my house with new phones that have
> an intercom capability.  For example, I press the "intercom" button on
> my phone, and my voice is broadcast too all other phones in the house.

You may wish to look at the TMC ET4000
http://www.sellcom.com/tmc.html

It has the features you mention and is 4 line.  

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Talkswitch, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Minisplitter log splitter
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

From: nospam@nothere.com
Subject: Re: NetZero Commercials on Television
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:44:06 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:31:40 -0000, ellis@no.spam wrote:

> In article <telecom23.70.11@telecom-digest.org>, Danny Burstein
> <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

>>	a) it'll downgrade images on a web page, making
>>	them much smaller (bytewise) and moving them
>>	across faster. So that 250k jpg you're downloading
>>	from NASA's Mars collection will be replaced by
>>	a, perhaps, 50k one. Faster d/l, but lossy.

> Is there a way for a web author to tell them not to do that?  I really
> don't like the idea of Netzero messing with my images.

Copyright your images, then threaten Netzero with the DMCA? ;:-)

> http://www.spinics.net/photo/

------------------------------

From: William Warren <william_warren_noham@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Lost Liberties / Outlawing Dissent
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:51:56 GMT


Lisa Hancock <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.74.10@telecom-digest.org:

> Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

>> Feb. 11, 2004 | The undercover cop introduced herself to the activists
>> from the Colorado Coalition Against the War in Iraq as Chris Hoffman,
>> but her real name was Chris Hurley. Last March, she arrived at a
>> nonviolence training session in Denver...
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> ... She said she was willing to get arrested for the cause of
>> peace. In fact, she did get arrested. She was just never charged. The
>> activists she protested with wouldn't find out why for months.

> I found this post rather disturbing, but not for what you'd
> think.

> As the article makes clear, the protestors were planning to do
> something that was _illegal_.  Thus, they were planning to commit a
> criminal act.  That is not peaceable protest; that is crime.
>
> Activists defend their criminal activity on the grounds that their
> message is so important it "justifies" the crime and disruption.

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.


Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.


Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except
in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when
in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be
taken for public use, without just compensation.


Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a
speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and
district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district
shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the
witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining
witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his
defense.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: IMO, the 'trouble' with this latest
conflict in Iraq, from my perspective as a Usenet newsgroup moderator
who has essentially 'opened the door for discussion' by not long ago
totally disavowing any/all comments on same, is that as the conflict
escalates and grows more prolonged (and do not be decieved, it *will*
go on for many, many years, at least through the tenure of the present
president and probably well into the term of the next occupant) is that
as it goes on, the discussions get more involved, more detailed, and
more off-topic for telecom. That's one reason -- maybe the main one --
for my starting the http://patricktownson-live.us.tf web log or blog
page. I hope eventually -- without having to be rude about it, that
most of this discussion and similar will move into that area instead.

Yes, I know, its probably mostly my fault. I originally thought the
diversions would be welcome, and that some of my conclusions on the
war would be as obvious to everyone as they are to me, but I guess
not.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: deftonic2@netscape.net (AL)
Subject: Re: Qwest vs. Other Companies
Date: 16 Feb 2004 10:38:43 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.72.8@telecom-digest.org>:

> The following post is from another group, but may be of interest to
> TELECOM Digest readers.  It's a response from an ISP tech guy to griping
> about telco service in a Qwest area.  Since I don't have permission to
> repost, I've sanitized it a tad to anonymize the author.

>                  ------------------------------

> As much as people gripe about Qwest, there are far far worse telco's
> out there in the world. Since we deal with just about all of them
> (either on a daily basis, because they are a given ILEC of an area
> served [by us], which are Qwest, Frontier & Sprint), or have dealt
> with them in the past.

> The ones that spring to mind right away that are much much worse to
> deal with than Qwest are

> #3    Sprint
> #2    McLeod USA
> #1    MCI 

> At MCI, it feels like you talk to a brick wall, and it sure seems like
> its company policy to just ignore you, keep on billing you for
> services after you've cancelled (well past the 6-month mark is an
> *average*), and have CSR's that couldn't tell you what a phone is,
> even though they are talking to you on one.

> The Sprint CSR's usually don't even know if they offer a service or
> not, and there's no supervisors to check with to see. I think for a
> while there, they started cold calling up random potential customers,
> and offering the weirdest things like DSL service for somebody in
> downtown [city], even though they only service a few areas around
> [far-out suburbs].  They'd even get some people to sign up, only to
> call back in a couple months to explain that they really couldn't
> offer service there.

> I'd put Frontier and some of the CLEC's in the area in the upper edge
> above Qwest in terms of ease to deal with.

> Sure, there's some bad reps at Qwest, and their internal communication
> is pretty lacking sometimes, but there's also some pretty good reps in
> there too.

If your looking for good CSR, I've found that TelCan www.telcan.net
has amazing services and quality CSR reps.

www.telcan.net

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:36:58 -0500
From: BarryB <barryb@simlab.net>
Subject: Norvergence, Frankly


Pat feel free to post it!!

Their "Proprietary" Technology:

Sure the boxes are patented, but not by them, instead by Adtran.  The
MATRIX is an Adtran 850 RCU which is a standard T1 integrated internet
access device with channel bank and router, retailing for $2,222.  I
have sold programmed and installed dozens of these.  It does not
support voip.  Voice is handled by standard channel option cards.

The SOHO is an Adtran 2050, retailing for $599 which is a firewall,
gateway, router, and VPN appliance -- it does not access the internet
or handle any voice or voip.  I have programmed and installed two of
them, one in my home office.  In all the Norvergence installations
I've seen the box is doing nothing at all.  I have one here that I
removed from a client -- only one end was plugged in!

------------------------------

From: Matthew Elvey <matthew@elvey.com>
Subject: Re: Phantom DSL Reprised
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 00:00:00


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net> wrote in
news:telecom23.33.8@telecom-digest.org:

> Some few weeks ago, there was a discussion in this group about DSL
> ...
> So, it seems, the providers are hoarding the DSL circuits in my CO
> so they can milk the businesses for $160 bucks a month before
> offering it to residential customers (going rate about $30 per
> month).  High speed access through the cable company is about
> $50.00 per month.

> is the original poster.)

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's a lot like the routine I got
> from SW Bell. 

> But then one day by accident (I am sure it had to be by accident)
> a promotional mailing and a CD to the former owner of my telephone
> number. "Try our DSL along with a boatload of other goodies for
> free if you will try our service for just $29 per month. They were
> offering Yahoo/DSL at that low price. ... Anyway, I suggested to
> them "if you can afford to give DSL for $29 per month then you
> *should* give it for that, along with the free CDs, gift cards,
> free installs and other goodies. You are charging me almost twice
> that much, and I sent you a check for a year's service in
> advance." The lady said to me, "DSL is not a tariffed offering. We
> can do as we please with that, subject to technical limitations."
> I guess that's right. What the market will bear and all that rot.

No, it's NOT right.  I've been through the regulations. They (SBC)
refused to give me the rate they were offering to other customers, and
I complained to the PUC, pointing out that the regulations (in CA)
require that they not discriminate in their offerings, and that these
regulations cover all telecom (including DSL), tarriffed or not.

I got the new lower rate. 

I've even caught SBC lying to the PUC, in writing.

They just don't let up; the next month they crammed my cellphone bill,
about a month after that (this month) my POTS bill.

For more details, see the list I run for PacBellDSL users:
http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pacbelldsl

I think they've done the Cost (penalties of breaking law * likelihood
of enforcement) << Profit (made breaking the law) calculation.

Morality doesn't enter into the equation.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When I was a regular customer of SBC I
cannot tell you how many times I would call the business office to get
some minor adjustment or another on my bill only  to get the next
month's bill with an even higher balance due of new charges, etc. They
would promised to give me credit for whatever, then the next month
they did in fact give the credit but come up with still newer charges
for things I did not want. Then one month they agreed to begin billing
me the 'new, lower rate' for DSL; I waited a month for a corrected
bill to show up and when it did not reflect the 'new, lower rate' for
DSL their answer was the original rep had 'misunderstood'. That rate
was only in effect if I allowed them to cram my cell service from
Cingular Wireless on the same bill. The fact that I had and still have
Cingular Wireless (easy to confirm) was not good enough. I had to
have it on the same bill (which is impossible for me.) You are quite
right, morality does not enter the picture with them.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: AES/newspost <siegman@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Experts Warn of Microsoft 'Monoculture'
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:55:50 -0800


In article <telecom23.74.11@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> Geer and others believe Microsoft's software is so dangerously
> pervasive that a virus capable of exploiting even a single flaw in its
> operating systems could wreak havoc.

I believe this is a highly valid concern -- but quite independently of 
it, I continue to be amazed that Microsoft has not faced massive class 
action suits based on product liability arguments.  

Such arguments may or may not be valid, and might or might not be
successful in the courts -- I'd sure like to think they might be. But
nonetheless, the amount of damage suffered by deep-pockets
organizations in the course of (or, if you like "as a direct result
of") using MS software has certainly been massive enough that one
would think someone would be suing.

------------------------------

From: John McHarry <jmcharry@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Telephone Service Surcharges
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:09:52 -0500


Michael Chance wrote:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I thought the 'telephone luxury tax'
>> started about 1917 during the First War as a way to provide for the
>> soldiers. They won't be getting rid of it anytime soon, however.

> [ remainder of moderator comments deleted ]

> Now I'm sorry that I asked the question.  If I'd know that it would
> have sent Pat off on an error-laden, near libelous rant against
> President Bush, I never would have bothered.  Diseased brain or not,
> that was uncalled for.

Well, perhaps he wasn't really elected, and perhaps he is a right wing
extremist, and perhaps he did lie to the people and the Congress to
get us into a war that wasn't needed and is still killing people
daily, but it is going too far to accuse him of having a diseased
brain. You should be ashamed.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mr. Chance was alluding to *my*
diseased brain, not the resident president's.  My diseased brain is
no secret. Following my brain aneursym in November, 1999 the neurological
damage to me was quite severe. It's quite obvious to my immediate and
personal friends and caretakers who come around every day to attend to
my personal hygiene, housekeeping, cooking/serving food, etc. Through
God's grace (or God's damnation as I sometimes phrase it) I did not 
expire on my way to Stormont-Vail Medical Center in Topeka, KS and
came out of my comotose state about two months later (in January 2000)
as cranky and cantankerous as ever, only with much damage to my
lifestyle as a result. PAT]  

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 04 17:14:03 PDT
From: pm2020bc@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Subject: Re: telecom: My New Blog (Weblog) 


Fine Pat, but what was the outcome with Mrs. Stevens?

Bob Canon

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For those folks who came into this 
late, 'Mrs. Stevens' is the latest in a series of alley cats who
was worked her way into my heart over the years. She keeps me on
my toes. The veternarian at the Independence Animal Hospital removed
that 'ear plug' (that was his name for it; it appeared to me like
a build up of ear wax) under general anesthesia a week ago. Although
she was rather loopy the night after she came home from the vet, she
has now gotten back to her usual sassy, demanding self. I can expect
to find her in my bed each morning when I wake up. Thanks for asking.
PAT]

------------------------------

From: Scott Wilson <scwilson@intercall.com>
Subject: What Happened to the Telecom IRC Chat Room? 
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:15:01 -0500


Good morning Patrick,

I understand that you host a chat room that deals with the telecom
industry.  I tried to access it via search engine, but I am having
trouble.  Can you please send me the link?  

Thanks Patrick,

Scott Wilson 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, we did have that. On the group web
page http://telecom-digest.org I had a link to a java-based IRC. One
of a million channels on that particular IRC net, the people who
operated the IRC; I chose the topic 'telecommunications' and other
than establishing a bot (with the help of the administrators there)
which stood guard over the room all the time, just left it as an open
chat room on telecom for visitors to our web site. That was in 1999
B.A.  (before aneurysm). The java script got broken somehow, and the
people who ran the (in general) IRC closed down, and I have not had
the brain processing power available to me to restart it since I got
out of the hopsital. **Would YOU -- or anyone knowlegeable about java-
scripting and web page interlinks to IRC** be willing to start it up
again?  Truth be told, the entire web site http://telecom-digest.org
is in deplorable condition the past couple years and needs substantial
remodeling/rebuilding. Again, the brain processing power I  *used to
posess* just isn't present these days.  Let me know if you would like
to rebuild the entire thing from scratch, keeping the old archives
first in mind.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: quentin_valentino@yahoo.com (Bagani)
Subject: FUNCHAIN.COM - New Service Combines Social Networking with Blogging
Date: 17 Feb 2004 00:44:32 -0800


NEURACOM CORPORATION recently launched FUNCHAIN.COM, the FriendBlogs
Engine. FriendBlogs are collaborative journals on the web, composed of
short, frequently updated posts written by friends connected through
their similar interests.

Funchain.com is the latest in the growing explosion of social
networking services, sparked last year by Friendster, which generated
buzz and bucks from venture capital firms and other investors.
Friendster received $13 million from blue-chip VC firms Benchmark
Capital and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. Spoke Software, a
business-oriented social networking facility, got a total of $12
million from Doll Capital Management. Others are expected to follow as
more join in the bandwagon.

Neuracom Corporation's CEO, Jason Banico, hopes that the activity of
FriendBlogging will create a niche in the social networking space
currently dominated by rivals such as Friendster, Tribe.Net, Orkut and
others. "We intend to create a compelling service that combines social
networking with blogging, both hot online activities for the past two
years," Banico said. Banico hopes to tap the 10 million user market
for blogging, as well as the 50 million user market for social
networking.

The service began as a thesis project by two Asian programmers,
Jaeyoun Kim and Raymond Ong, who are now partners of Neuracom
Corporation. The service has since then attracted a select set of
loyal users, starting from Asian friends of Kim, Ong and Banico.

As for business models, Banico says that Funchain.com will support
itself by advertising revenues. The service will be unveiling its
premium subscriber service and its e-commerce strategy within the
year.

Funchain.com can be reached at WWW.FUNCHAIN.COM.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My new weblog - blog was set up under
the auspices of http://livejournal.com and append to that the
phrase /users/patrick_townson is where you will find me. I only chose
that one because (at least) one of our readers here has a 'blog' there
and it seemed like fun.  I am also looking at myspace.com to see how
well that one might work.  PAT]

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:32:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 76

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Telecom Update (Canada) #420, February 16, 2004 (John Riddell)
    Cardinal/Candella Phone Systems (Daryl R. Gibson)
    Re: The Virus Underground (William Robison)
    Re: World-Wide Cellular Coverage (Joe of Seattle)
    Re: A Suspicious Netscape Icon on my Desktop (jbl)
    SMS Security (Bright)
    Re: What Happened to the Telecom IRC Chat Room? (McWebber)
    For Sale: TMC SOHO 2-Line Phone System on Ebay (Kristi M.)
    Re: Telephones With Intercom Capability? (Carl Navarro)
    New Reports (Petter Lundkvist)
    SBC "Unlimited" Calling Plan Fine Print - Chicago Trib Article (Paul)
    Re: Rack Mount Cellular Phone (Dale Farmer)
    Re: Monty Solomon Postings (was: My New Blog (Web log)) (AES/newspost)
    Cingular to Acquire AT&T Wireless, Create Premier Carrier (M. Solomon)
    Cingular, SBC, BellSouth Discuss AT&T Wireless Acquisition (M. Solomon)
    Bagle.B Virus (Monty Solomon)
    ATI Delivers HDTV Reception On The PC (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo Gets Huge Horsepower Boost (Monty Solomon)

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Subject: Telecom Update (Canada) #420, February 16, 2004


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IN THIS ISSUE:

** Rogers Reveals Telephony Plans
** Spectrum Auction Practically Over
** CRTC to Speed Competitive Dispute Resolution
** More Security Problems with Windows
** Juniper Buys Net Security Company
** Telus Wireline Down, Wireless Up
** Microcell Revenue Down, Subscribers Up
** Canadian Text Messages Double in 2003
** Bell Refunded 98% of Party-Line Overcharges
** Wireless Broadband Launched in Yellowknife
** FCC Won't Regulate Computer-to-Computer Calls
** Citel Intros Mitel Gateway
** Mitec Raises $30 Million
** Cabletel Seeks Buyer
** CATA Creates Security Centre
** College Offers Call Centre Certification
** ITU to Hold Internet Governance Workshop
** IP Telephony for Branch Offices

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ROGERS REVEALS TELEPHONY PLANS: Rogers Communications and Rogers Cable
say they will deploy "an advanced broadband IP multimedia network to
support digital voice-over-cable telephone and other new voice and
data services." Service will be offered to about 1.8 million
households in mid-2005, and extended to most of the company's service
area in 2006.

** Rogers says the deployment plan is "conditional upon
    supportive regulatory conditions."

SPECTRUM AUCTION PRACTICALLY OVER: The 2.3/3.5 GHz spectrum auction
opened last Monday and, with only minor bidding since Wednesday, looks
likely to end today. The auction has raised only $11.2 million, less
than a tenth of what some analysts had predicted. Nearly 60% of
available licences--including several in major cities--have received
no bids.

** Rogers Wireless was high bidder, paying nearly $6 million
    for 33 licences, including  Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver,
    Calgary, and Ottawa.

** Bell Canada acquired the most licences, paying $1.5
    million for 138 licences spread across the country but
    bypassing all the large cities except Vancouver.

http://agora.ic.gc.ca/

CRTC TO SPEED COMPETITIVE DISPUTE RESOLUTION: On February 10, the CRTC
announced an "expedited procedure for resolving competitive issues."
In disputes that involve only two parties, and hinge on the
interpretation and application of Commission decisions to specific
situations, the Commission will conduct a brief, accelerated public
hearing, and issue a brief written decision either at the hearing or
within a few days.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Circulars/2004/ct2004-2.htm

MORE SECURITY PROBLEMS WITH WINDOWS: Microsoft has announced yet
another critical security flaw in Windows NT, 2000, XP, and Server
2003, and in Microsoft Virtual PC for Mac. Free updates are available
for downloading at www.microsoft.com.

JUNIPER BUYS NET SECURITY COMPANY: Juniper Networks has agreed to
acquire Netscreen Technologies, a developer of network security and
access products. The all-stock deal is valued at US$4 billion.

TELUS WIRELINE DOWN, WIRELESS UP: Telus Communications' 4Q 2003
revenue was down 5% from 2002, while Telus Mobility's revenues
increased 17%. The company's net income for the quarter was $49.6
million compared to a loss of $139.2 million in the same period a year
ago.

** Telus says it will spend $72.8 million to redeem all of
    its outstanding preferred shares.

MICROCELL REVENUE DOWN, SUBSCRIBERS UP: Microcell Telecommunications'
total revenue in 2003 was $570.8 million, down from $591.1 million in
2002, but net income was $50.5 million, compared to a net loss of
$570.5 million. The company's retail customer base grew by 107,422 in
the fourth quarter, compared with a loss of 30,212 in 4Q 2002.

** The company describes City Fido, launched in Vancouver
    as a competitor for wireline local service, as an
    "overwhelming success." There's a full report on City
    Fido's first three months in the latest issue of
    Telemanagement, available to online subscribers tomorrow.

CANADIAN TEXT MESSAGES DOUBLE IN 2003: The Canadian Wireless
Telecommunications Association says that Canadians sent 350 million
wireless text messages in 2003, compared to 174 million in 2002.

BELL REFUNDED 98% OF PARTY-LINE OVERCHARGES: In 2002, the Public
Interest Advocacy Centre informed the CRTC that Bell had been
overcharging party-line customers for telephone sets (see Telecom
Update #346). Bell has refunded $1.1 Million to the overcharged
customers, but can't locate 2,948 inactive customers to whom $16,900
is owed. The CRTC says the remaining amount is to be put in Bell's
deferral account, and no further action is necessary.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-8.htm

WIRELESS BROADBAND LAUNCHED IN YELLOWKNIFE: Internet Service Provider
SSI Micro has begun offering high-speed wireless Internet access in
Yellowknife, using a network operated by Inukshuk Internet, a
subsidiary of Microcell. Basic residential SSI Micro Skyline service
is $59.95/month.

FCC WON'T REGULATE COMPUTER-TO-COMPUTER CALLS: The U.S.  Federal
Communications Commission has ruled that the Free World Dialup, an IP
service that provides computer-to- computer voice calls, "will remain
a minimally regulated competitive option for consumers." This means it
won't have to pay many of the fees that apply to other telephony
providers.

** The CRTC exempted computer-to-computer voice calls ("PC
    Voice") from paying contribution fees in 1998, in Telecom
    Order 98-929. (See Telecom Update #150)

CITEL INTROS MITEL GATEWAY: Citel Technologies has announced a Gateway
product, co-branded with Mitel, that will allow Nortel Norstar
telephones to be used with a Mitel Networks 3300 IP-PBX.

MITEC RAISES $30 MILLION: Mitec Telecom, a Montreal manufacturer of
products for wireless telecommunications, has received $30 million in
equity financing from a syndicate led by Desjardins Securities. The
money will be used for debt reduction, working capital, and
acquisitions.

CABLETEL SEEKS BUYER: Cabletel Communications Corp, a Markham
Ontario-based distributor of broadband gear for TV and telecom, says
it does not have adequate working capital to meet its current
obligations. It is exploring various options including selling all or
part of the company.

CATA CREATES SECURITY CENTRE: The Canadian Advanced Technology
Alliance has created a Cyber Security Resource Centre to track and
report threats to Canada's information infrastructure, including
viruses, worms, trojans, and focused attacks.

COLLEGE OFFERS CALL CENTRE CERTIFICATION: Toronto's Seneca College has
launched a Customer Contact Centre Management program. Graduates of
the four three-day workshops receive certification by the Call Centre
Industry Advisory Council.

ITU TO HOLD INTERNET GOVERNANCE WORKSHOP: The International
Telecommunications Union will hold a Workshop on Internet Governance
at the ITU headquarters in Switzerland, February 26-27. The workshop,
involving ITU members and invited experts will examine legal,
technological, administration, and commercial issues.

IP TELEPHONY FOR BRANCH OFFICES: The March issue of Telemanagement,
available to online subscribers tomorrow, includes Part 2 of our
in-depth report on IP telephony systems for branch offices, plus a
hands-on comparison review of six network management software
packages, a report on new developments in wireless asset tracking, and
proposals for speeding CRTC decision-making.

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From: Daryl R Gibson <drg@bluediamond.byu.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:39:00 -0700
Subject: Cardinal/Candela Phone Systems


A friend of mine has purchased a small motel that is equipped with a 
Cardinal (some parts are Candella) phone system. The system appears to 
be 20 years old, and a recent power bump goofed up some of the 
programming; among other things, it means one of the units is now unable 
to call out, others try for local calls and get other rooms, etc. 

My question is threefold:

1. Is there anyone who specializes in this system?
2. Does anyone on this list have any experience with them?
3. Could someone recommend a suitable replacement (25-50 lines) 
system for future use?

Thanks.

Daryl

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From: William Robison <william-robison@uiowa.edu.com>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: University of Iowa
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:04:47 GMT


Pat:

  Are we all asking the wrong question about virus software?

  Why do we all keep using IE and Outlook?  (kinda like
hitting your thumbe with a hammer, over and over).  -or-
How many times do we have to be explotied before we realize
there has to be a better way (and there are, certainly, many
alternatives to IE/Outlook).

-Willy

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Very good point!  When I now and
then use the Linux partition (on my otherwise Windows 2000 machine)
I use 'mail' to read stuff. Or I use 'ssh' to login here to massis
(where I also use 'mail' as a matter of course) and none of those
virus things seem to have any effect. But don't you think that if
the whole world started using *nix to the extent they now use 
Windows the virus writers (like that snotty teenage kid discussed
about here in the Digest a couple weeks ago) wouldn't shift gears
and start writing things to mess with *nix like they do Windows
now?  I suspect the only reason some mail programs are relatively
'immune' at the present time is just a question of where to get
the biggest bang for the buck where the virus writers are
concerned.   PAT]

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: World-Wide Cellular Coverage
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:32:14 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


On 16 Feb 2004 09:58:38 EST, Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles
B. Wilber) wrote:

> What are the best answers to an administrator who asks for a cell
> phone that can be used "all over the world?" I am not aware of any
> service (GSM or otherwise) that will work reliably all over the
> world. I have also read that it is often best to get cell service
> locally when traveling to other countries, at least from a cost point
> of view. Are there any alternatives besides satellite phones?  Do even
> those provide reliable world-wide coverage?

> All suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Please reply directly to
> me as well as to the listserv. Thank you.

AFAIK the only "global" solution (not very elegant) is to use a GSM
"world" phone for 90% of the world.  It will work in the Americas,
Europe, (most of) Asia, and Oceania.  It will not work in Korea or
Japan.  Korea uses a special kind of CDMA and Japan uses their own
standard that isn't used anywhere else in the world.  I understand
that in Korea you can rent a CDMA2000 handset that also accepts a GSM
SIM card so it's possible for you to use your home carrier in Korea.
AFAIK there's no such combination handset available for Japan.  So,
the bottom line is that for over 90% of the world a GSM "world" phone
will work for you.  In a very small number of countries such as Japan
and Korea you have to make other arrangements.  Even GSM isn't always
the right choice to make for North America as the GSM networks are not
as well-developed as they are in Europe and in Asia, but if you are
going to be in the major metopolitan areas or the highways connecting
those areas it should work for you.  The major GSM networks in the US
would be T-Mobile, AT&T Wireless and cingular.  With the recent news
that cingular has made a bid that will probably be accepted by AT&T
Wireless there's a good chance that GSM will eventually be a good
choice to have for service in the US.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

------------------------------

From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: A Suspicious Netscape Icon on my DeskTop
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:00:38 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.73.6@telecom-digest.org>, tech@xxcopy.com (Kan Yabumoto)
wrote:

> BTW, the Netscape icon that mysteriously appered on my Desktop is a
> link to the following sign-up form:

>    https://register.isp.netscape.com/default.jsp?promo=NS_2_6_2_2003_12_6

> The brief description of the service can be viewed from:

>    http://www.getnetscape.com/index.adp?promo=NS_2_7_7_2003_10_2

These sound like "legitimate" netscape pointers, as opposed to some
phisher or malware supplier.

Do you have automatic netscape updating turned on?  (Or might you have
accidentally clicked 'yes' when it put up a box asking you if you
wanted to update your netscape?[1])

	/JBL

[1]I have a problem with software that does this kind of thing.  If
I'm clicking and/or typing fast, some box will pop up, intercept my
next "enter" keypress and disappear before I get a chance to realize
that something is there, much less read what it says.  Most such boxes
are in response to something I did, so I expect them; but clock driven
activities (like automatic update reminders, if you don't turn them
off) are generally a complete surprise.

------------------------------

From: brightwell_151@yahoo.co.uk (Bright)
Subject: SMS Security
Date: 17 Feb 2004 04:44:38 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Dear All,

I'm looked through various archives and I seem to have come up with a
mixed bag when it comes to SMS.

Some people have stated that there is no encryption on SMS messages
when broadcast (and no authentication of the originating number) while
others have stated that the same authentication is used as for voice
(i.e. A3 to authenticate the connection and A5 to encrypt the session)

Now ... I reckon there must be some form of accurate authentication to
facilitate billing. Can I assume that the connection to the SMS
repository is authenticated in the same way as a voice connection (A3,
Comp128)?

But does the data in the SMS get encrypted, and does this include the
CallerID (i.e. is the CallerID seperate to whatever is used for
billing).

1. I want to know how difficult it is to snoop the text in the SMS (I
realise that the GSM implementation A5/1 isn't highly regarded)
2. I want to know how difficult it is to spoof an SMS (not to defraud
the billing operator but to confuse or misdirect the recipient of the
SMS)

Can anyone point me to security papers about SMS (there are plenty
about GSM in general, but SMS barely gets a mention).

I am given to understand that the SMS messages aren't encrypted while
stored on the service providers server and there's no way of working
out whether they are encrypted in transit across the providers network
(so maybe this is where the confusion about encryption has come in)

Any comments gratefully received.


John

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: What Happened to the Telecom IRC Chat Room? 
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:48:46 -0500


Scott Wilson <scwilson@intercall.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.75.16@telecom-digest.org:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: **Would YOU -- or anyone knowlegeable
> about java-scripting and web page interlinks to IRC** be willing to
> start it up again? ]

Any Yahoo Groups site has a "Chat" link. Easy enough to start a Yahoo Group
if you wanted a chat.


McWebber

"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So I discovered by looking closely at
the web site I helped Lisa Minter set up for telecom. But its sort of
a mixed bag. Yes, you just say so, and press a few keys and there it
is, but it appears to be limited to simply Yahoo Messenger subscribers,
(and the Yahoo 'Chat Room' system rather than IRC as such. But it looks
easier in general to use than IRC does. So anyone who wants realtime
interactive telecom-related chat is invited to use it at Yahoo Groups.
I do not know the URL off hand (I think you have to go in the front
door of Groups, then to telecom-news.)    PAT]

------------------------------

From: prairillon@prodigy.net (Kristi M.)
Subject: For Sale: TMC SOHO 2-Line Phone System on Ebay
Date: 17 Feb 2004 05:56:44 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Four TMC m2210 telephones with LCD displays make a great "KSU-less"
full-featured system for a small office or home.

TMC SOHO 2-Line Phone System Item number:  3078702090

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3078702090&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1

Thank you.

--Kristi

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Telephones With Intercom Capability?
Reply-To: cnavarro@wcnet.org
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:45:24 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


On 15 Feb 2004 16:50:34 -0800, nospam_timur@tabi.org (Timur Tabi)
wrote:

> Do telephones with intercom capabilities exist?  What I would like to
> do is replace all of the phones in my house with new phones that have
> an intercom capability.  For example, I press the "intercom" button on
> my phone, and my voice is broadcast too all other phones in the house.

Telephone(s) with intercoms do exist.  It's a function of $$$ and
cabling as to what you can do.  If you're talking three or four
phones, you can get any of the low line count intercom/paging phones
from Panasonic, Avaya, TMC, and others that require a wall wart and
use common pairs to superimpose intercom over one of the phone lines.
Expect to pay between $150-250 per phone.

The other option, if you truly have home runs to all the locations or
need larger amounts of phoes, is to search eBay for used Comdial,
Panasonic, Lucent/Avaya for key systems that have modern phones.
You can get a system with phones for less than $500.

Carl Navarro

> Each phone jack in my house is wired with Cat5 cable, so I can support
> up to four phone lines at each jack.  I would expect this "intercom
> phone" to use one of the extra pairs for the intercom capability.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, and in fact you can make your own
> intercom from a telephone pair quite easily. Radio Shack has the kind
> of phone you need as well as many other suppliers. PAT]

------------------------------

From: petter.lundkvist@spintrack.com (Petter Lundkvist)
Subject: New Reports
Date: 17 Feb 2004 07:36:46 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Check Spintrack's homepage for our latest updated reports on the
African IT  and Telecom sector.
 
http://www.spintrack.com/itadvice/reports_docs.htm

------------------------------

From: Paul <paule@mindspring.com>
Subject: SBC Unlimited Calling Plan Fine Print - Chicago Tribune Article
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:58:09 -0500
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Stealth phone charges rile customers

By Jon Van
Tribune staff reporter

Looking back, Judy Leach realizes that her mistake was thinking that
SBC's unlimited calling plan meant just that.

"They have limits, but they don't tell you about them," the Marengo
resident says.n

Leach's phone line was cut off after she rang up a monthly bill of
more than $2,500. She had signed up for a flat-rate long-distance plan
advertised for less than $50 a month.

She never saw the fine print that said Internet use was not part of
the deal. Nor did she anticipate such a rule since she had been
dialing her Internet service provider through SBC's local service for
four years.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0402170333feb17,1,4331943.story?coll=chi-news-hed

------------------------------

From: Dale Farmer <Dale@cybercom.net>
Organization: Furry green fuzz in the back of the refrigerator
Subject: Re: Rack Mount Cellular Phone
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:51:29 GMT


Ken Neely wrote:

> My client needs to acquire a number of rack mount cellular (1xrtt -
> Verizon) phones for emergency ops use. Are any quality devices of this
> type available ?

> kenneth.neely@sce.com

    Check the burglar and fire alarm market.  Cellular phones as
backup alarm links are fairly common in the commercial alarm market.
All the ones I've seen are anonymous beige boxes with a coax connector
for the remote antenna.  Mounting is usually meant to be screwed to a
wall up high out of easy reach.

    --Dale

------------------------------

From: AES/newspost <siegman@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Monty Solomon Postings (was: My New Blog (Web log))
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:36:39 -0800


In article <telecom23.75.3@telecom-digest.org>, Peter G. Neumann
<neumann@csl.sri.com> wrote:

> Good comments.  I use relatively little of Monty's stuff, and 
> often put the real author's name in the subject line.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mr. Neumann is the moderator of RISKS,
> a prominent journal on internet.   PAT]

I'll say again: I appreciate the Solomon postings, but would love to
see them "digest-ified" into a single weekly or ??? digest, in the
same manner as Peter Neuman's superb comp.risk digests (though I think
an earlier reply from MS gave some reasons why he didn't want to do
this).

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cingular to Acquire AT&T Wireless, Create Nation's Premier Carrier
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:34:26 -0500


$41 billion deal to create number one wireless carrier, bring greater
network coverage, improved service quality, new advanced data services
to customers

ATLANTA, Feb. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Cingular Wireless LLC, a
joint venture between SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) and BellSouth
Corp.  (NYSE:BLS), announced today an agreement to acquire AT&T
Wireless (NYSE:AWE), creating the premier wireless carrier in the
United States.  Today, the combined company would have 46 million
customers and one of the most advanced digital networks in the U.S.,
with spectrum in 49 states and coverage in 97 of the top 100
markets. The combined 2003 annual revenues of the two companies would
have exceeded $32 billion.

Under the terms of the agreement approved by the boards of directors
of Cingular and AT&T Wireless, shareholders of AT&T Wireless will
receive $15 cash per common share or approximately $41 billion. The
acquisition, which is subject to the approvals of AT&T Wireless
shareholders and federal regulatory authorities, and to other
customary closing conditions, is expected to be completed as soon as
late 2004.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40612728

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:38:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cingular, SBC and BellSouth to Discuss AT&T Wireless Acquisition


      Analyst Conference Call at 11:30 a.m. EST Tuesday

ATLANTA, Feb.  17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Cingular  Wireless LLC and
its parent companies, SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) and BellSouth
Corp.  (NYSE:BLS), will discuss Cingular's planned acquisition of AT&T
Wireless during an  analyst conference call and webcast  set for 11:30
a.m. EST today.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40615325

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:00:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Bagle.B virus


http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/bagle_b.shtml

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:16:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ATI Delivers HDTV Reception On The PC


MARKHAM, ONTARIO--

ATI combines Consumer Electronics and PC multimedia expertise for
an unrivaled solution.

Crystal clear HDTV broadcasts can be enjoyed on the PC with the new
HDTV WONDER(TM) announced today by ATI Technologies Inc.  (TSX:ATY,
NASDAQ:ATYT). North American customers will be able to tune in and
watch high-definition television (HDTV) programs on the PC without
having to purchase an expensive TV that could cost more than
$2,000. HDTV in North America offers up to 5.5 times the pixels (dots
that comprise the screen) as standard TV resolution resulting in
amazing picture quality.

In addition to supporting analog NTSC (National Television Standards
Committee) cable, the HDTV WONDER add-in video card allows consumers
to experience the new ATSC (Advanced Television Systems Committee)
digital, free-to-air HDTV broadcasts without having to subscribe to
cable or satellite subscription services.  HDTV WONDER offers the best
advanced personal video recorder (PVR) on the PC today enabling
consumers to watch, pause and record both analog and HDTV programs --
powerful features beyond the capabilities of most current consumer and
PC-based appliances. Additionally, HDTV WONDER leverages the PC's
capabilities by offering the ability to archive content directly to
DVD for personal use. HDTV WONDER complements ATI's RADEON(TM) line of
video cards that deliver the industry's only full HDTV decoder and
display capabilities.


http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200402171001_CCN_0217009n

http://www.atitech.ca/companyinfo/press/2004/4732.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:23:06 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Gets Huge Horsepower Boost 


By Katie Dean

TiVo and other digital video recorders will get a serious boost in
horsepower later this year as manufacturers start selling DVRs that
can record high-definition television programming.

Several of the new, more robust high-definition DVRs will sport 250-GB
hard drives -- enough room to store 30 hours of high-definition
programming or about 200 hours of standard broadcast.

The beefier hard drives are necessary because signals for
high-definition TV, or HDTV, carry far more information per frame than
standard TV. For example, one HDTV standard in the United States
(1080i) calls for images that are 1,920 pixels by 1,080 pixels,
refreshed 60 times a second. By comparison, standard analog TV in the
United States is 500 dots by 525 dots.

But while the huge storage will please consumers, another "feature" of
the new generation of machines may not: Under pressure from Hollywood,
the manufacturers will include copy-protection schemes that will
prevent users from sharing recorded programs or playing them on other
devices, like a PC.

The content will be protected by two mechanisms. The first is Digital
Visual Interface (or DVI), which shuttles digital signals from the DVR
to the display. DVI works with High-bandwidth Digital Content
Protection (or HDCP), which encrypts that signal and ensures that only
an authorized device can display the content.


http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,61988,00.html

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    Mainstream Marketing v. FTC (Monty Solomon)
    Ecard-Hijack Spam Analysis (Monty Solomon)
    The Five Sisters (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments (Michael D. Sullivan)
    Re: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number (Herb Sutherland)
    My SBC Experience (was Re: Phantom DSL Reprised) (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:46:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Mainstream Marketing v. FTC


Mational do-not-call registry Appeals court opinion

http://www.ck10.uscourts.gov/opinions/03-1429.pdf 

http://www.ck10.uscourts.gov/opinions/03-1429.txt 

http://www.ck10.uscourts.gov/opinions/03-1429.wpd

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:49:42 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Ecard-Hijack Spam Analysis


http://www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/ecard-hijack/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:25:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Five Sisters


By WILLIAM SAFIRE

WASHINGTON - If one huge corporation controlled both the production
and the dissemination of most of our news and entertainment, couldn't
it rule the world?

Can't happen here, you say; America is the land of competition that 
generates new technology to ensure a diversity of voices. But 
consider how a supine Congress and a feckless majority of the Federal 
Communications Commission have been failing to protect our access to 
a variety of news, views and entertainment.

The media giant known as Viacom-CBS-MTV just showed us how it controls
both content and communication of the sexiest Super Bowl.  The five
other big sisters that now bestride the world are (1)
Murdoch-FoxTV-HarperCollins-WeeklyStandard-NewYorkPost-LondonTimes-DirecTV;
(2) G.E.-NBC-Universal-Vivendi; (3) Time-Warner-CNN-AOL; (4)
Disney-ABC-ESPN; and (5) the biggest cable company, Comcast.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/16/opinion/16SAFI.html

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:30:56 GMT


In article <telecom23.74.2@telecom-digest.org>, 
jared.NospaM@netspace.net.au says:

> In the USA part of the NANP at least, the FCC, the American approximation
> to OFTEL, banned doing so. There was cell phone area code that predated
> the decision, I'm not sure what happened to it.

> A prefix isn't needed in the USA as it's not caller-pays for calls to
> mobiles, instead the mobile phone owner pays for the call
> time. Roaming is interesting too: whether the caller pays a local or
> long distance rate depends on the mobile phone's area code, not where
> it happens to be with respect to the caller.

>> Do NANP counties use a 'standard' area-code for cellphones as opposed
>> to the UK (cell phone numbers begin with 07XXX) or other countries, where
>> different codes are required?

Before the FCC banned technology-specific overlay area codes, it
authorized New York to use a new overlay code (718?) for cell phones,
faxes, and internal telco lines for several years.  That code has
since become a normal overlay code, with wireline phones in it as well
as the others.

Given the introduction of full number portability between wireline and
wireless phones (with some exceptions, probably temporary), the genie
is out of the bottle; it won't be possible to have an area code that
is wireless-only or wireline-only.


Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

------------------------------

From: herbsu@netscape.net (Herb Sutherland)
Subject: Re: Verizon May Hang up on Plan to Sell Phone Number
Date: 17 Feb 2004 20:17:07 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


And what ever happened to Beechwood 4-5789 ???

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:34:54 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: My SBC Experience (was Re: Phantom DSL Reprised)


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net> wrote:

>> So, it seems, the providers are hoarding the DSL circuits in my CO
>> so they can milk the businesses for $160 bucks a month before
>> offering it to residential customers

Matthew Elvey wrote:

> I've even caught SBC lying to the PUC, in writing.

> They just don't let up; the next month they crammed my cellphone bill,
> about a month after that (this month) my POTS bill.

> Morality doesn't enter into the equation.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When I was a regular customer of SBC I
> cannot tell you how many times I would call the business office to get
> some minor adjustment or another on my bill only  to get the next
> month's bill with an even higher balance due of new charges, etc.

I'm an SBC customer as well, in 630-832-xxxx (used to be Ameritech
(used to be Illinois Bell)) and this has not been my experience.

It was an Illinois Bell customer service rep who spent about half an
hour going over available numbers with me when setting up new service
at my first house -- two cool numbers (xxx-8088 and xx8-0386), no
extra charge.  OK, they don't do this any more (who does?).  But they
did then.

It was an Ameritech customer service rep who told me about Alternate
Answering and Busy Line Transfer (combined cost: $1.50/mo) when I
called to order Call Forwarding ($18/mo or thereabouts).  In my
situation the cheaper alternative actually did what I wanted better
than the more expensive (but popular and heavily advertised) choice.

It was SBC who had my DSL up in 3 days when they promised it in a
week.  And when I had a bizarre intermittent problem with it, they had
two trucks out for the better part of an afternoon, and again the next
day, and fixed it.  (It was a flaky line card in the RT -- worked
about 99.9% of the time.)

Illinois Bell/Ameritech/SBC has never crammed me -- and when one of my
employees didn't say "NO!" loudly enough to some teleslime and I ended
up with "Voicenet E-mail by phone" on my bill, it was SBC who cleared
the charge and told Integretel where to stuff it.

Maybe I just lead a charmed life.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well I remember the very same situation
years ago when I lived in Chicago and was served by Illinois Bell. 
An early phone number of mine RAVenswood-8-7425 was selected for me
by a service rep who took some time to look though available numbers
then chose that one for me explaining to me it also spelled PATRICK.
In those days you ordered phone service one day, and the man came
out to your house and installed it the very next day, or sometimes,
if you called early enough in the morning, very late the same day.
And they did repairs the same day you asked for it, or the next
day. And they did not ask for a security deposit or any money in
advance. Even Southwestern Bell used to have very good service, as
my mother explained to me. They had a business office right here in
Independence, and the lady downstairs would call up to the technician
on the second floor -- where the frames were at -- to get done
whatever was needed. Gordon, when you now call the business office
for some matter or another, do you also get the reps in San Antonio,
Texas who know nothing at all about Chicago? I really think their
customer service has deteriorated a lot.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: Monty Solomon Postings (was My New Blog (Web log))
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:13:07 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.75.2@telecom-digest.org>, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)
wrote:

> This is my feeling also.  The one thing that does bother me when I come
> across Monty's postings is that they're formatted as if he was claiming
> to have written the excerpts he quotes.

Interestingly, it never occurred to me that he was doing anything
other than what he is doing.

And I much prefer reading text without quote marks on each line, so
since he's not actually quoting a posting in a response, I'd just as
soon he left them off (as he does now).

Perhaps a "[MEDIA]" tag in the subject line would make you happier.


/JBL

------------------------------

From: lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:13:01 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


PAT writes:

> But don't you think that if the whole world started using *nix to
> the extent they now use Windows the virus writers (like that snotty
> teenage kid discussed about here in the Digest a couple weeks ago)
> wouldn't shift gears and start writing things to mess with *nix like
> they do Windows now?

Of course, and we've already started to see that with Linux.  But the
simple fact of the matter is that Windows and it's related
applications were explicitly designed to do things for you,
automatically, so you don't have to know what you're doing.  Unix-like
systems and most of their applications, on the other hand, were
designed to do exactly what you tell them and not one thing more,
forcing you to know what you're doing in order to use them at all.
It's far easier for a bad guy to co-opt the built-in mechanisms in
Windows to do what he wants than it is to figure out how to break into
a Unix system and get it to do what he want.  Heck, even legitimate
users have a hard time getting Unix systems to do what they want!  :-)


-Larry Jones

It must be sad being a species with so little imagination. -- Calvin

------------------------------

From: William Robison <william-robison@uiowa.edu.com>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: University of Iowa
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:02:19 GMT


> Pat:

> Are we all asking the wrong question about virus software?

> Why do we all keep using IE and Outlook?  (kinda like
> hitting your thumbe with a hammer, over and over).  -or-
> How many times do we have to be explotied before we realize
> there has to be a better way (and there are, certainly, many
> alternatives to IE/Outlook).

> -Willy

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Very good point!  When I now and
> then use the Linux partition (on my otherwise Windows 2000 machine)
> I use 'mail' to read stuff. Or I use 'ssh' to login here to massis
> (where I also use 'mail' as a matter of course) and none of those
> virus things seem to have any effect. But don't you think that if
> the whole world started using *nix to the extent they now use
> Windows the virus writers (like that snotty teenage kid discussed
> about here in the Digest a couple weeks ago) wouldn't shift gears
> and start writing things to mess with *nix like they do Windows
> now?  I suspect the only reason some mail programs are relatively
> 'immune' at the present time is just a question of where to get
> the biggest bang for the buck where the virus writers are
> concerned.   PAT]

Pat:

  I'm sure the virus writers will shift to the most prevalent
platform, when that shifts from Windows, but I suspect the job of
making a virus becomes much more difficult.

  We went through a similar phase of attacks in the days of DECnet (in
the space physics community, 20 years ago); when the network started
to get hooked up to more machines, we bagan to see attacks on 'open'
resources (I can't remember when the first major 'attack' occurred,
but it was the fault of poor administrative planning, pure and
simple).  At least in those days, we seemd to have enough sense to
shut the openings down and stop operating in such a casual manner.

  In the Windows world, however, we seem to go through the hammer-to-
thumb scenario over and over (and over and over).  Perhaps we should
realize that the problem lies with the software, such as IE and
Outlook, rather than with the hackers (who keep sending the auto-
execute virus over and over again), and simply stop using it.

  Rather like driving down the Interstate with bald tires that you
keep taking into the garage to get patches put on the most recent
holes ...


Regards

-Willy

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Experts Warn of Microsoft 'Monoculture'
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:29:26 -0700
From: <email@crazyhat.net>


In message <<telecom23.75.13@telecom-digest.org>> AES/newspost
<siegman@stanford.edu> did ramble:

> Such arguments may or may not be valid, and might or might not be
> successful in the courts -- I'd sure like to think they might be. But
> nonetheless, the amount of damage suffered by deep-pockets
> organizations in the course of (or, if you like "as a direct result
> of") using MS software has certainly been massive enough that one
> would think someone would be suing.

Yeah, we'd all get a $5 coupon for our next purchase of a Microsoft
service pack (which they'd start charging for to cover the cost of the
lawsuit)


A cheap shot is a terrible thing to waste.

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Cardinal/Candela Phone Systems
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:44:26 -0500
Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:39:00 -0700, Daryl R Gibson
<drg@bluediamond.byu.edu> wrote:

> A friend of mine has purchased a small motel that is equipped with a 
> Cardinal (some parts are Candella) phone system. The system appears to 
> be 20 years old, and a recent power bump goofed up some of the 
> programming; among other things, it means one of the units is now unable 
> to call out, others try for local calls and get other rooms, etc. 

> My question is threefold:

> 1. Is there anyone who specializes in this system?
> 2. Does anyone on this list have any experience with them?
> 3. Could someone recommend a suitable replacement (25-50 lines) 
> system for future use?

1.  I used to carry it, but I sold all my stuff to ESI.  
2.  Yes, I actually might still have a manual but it's pretty
    intuitive.
3.  Easiest is a Mitel SX-200.  In a cabinet at that line size you'd
    be in the $2500 range.

Carl Navarro

------------------------------

From: Melon <nospams@screwit.lol>
Subject: Re: Cingular to Acquire AT&T Wireless, Nation's Premier Carrier
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:22:57 -0600
Organization: Cox Communications


Monty Solomon wrote:

> $41 billion deal to create number one wireless carrier, bring greater
> network coverage, improved service quality, new advanced data services
> to customers

> ATLANTA, Feb. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Cingular Wireless LLC, a
> joint venture between SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) and BellSouth
> Corp.  (NYSE:BLS), announced today an agreement to acquire AT&T
> Wireless (NYSE:AWE), creating the premier wireless carrier in the
> United States.  Today, the combined company would have 46 million
> customers and one of the most advanced digital networks in the U.S.,
> with spectrum in 49 states and coverage in 97 of the top 100
> markets. The combined 2003 annual revenues of the two companies would
> have exceeded $32 billion.

> Under the terms of the agreement approved by the boards of directors
> of Cingular and AT&T Wireless, shareholders of AT&T Wireless will
> receive $15 cash per common share or approximately $41 billion. The
> acquisition, which is subject to the approvals of AT&T Wireless
> shareholders and federal regulatory authorities, and to other
> customary closing conditions, is expected to be completed as soon as
> late 2004.

>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40612728

Now will the FCC approve it?

------------------------------

From: spaceygum@hotpop.com (Spacey Spade)
Subject: Honesty from Earthlink
Date: 17 Feb 2004 16:24:53 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I was getting spam from Earthlink even though I had "opted out".  By
the way, AFAIK, I recommend Earthlink.  Below a transcription of chat
tech support:

Welcome to Earthlink LiveChat. Your chat session will begin shortly.
Tired of Spam? With Earthlink's free spamBlocker you can customize
your settings to eliminate all of your unwanted email!

'name_protected' says: Thank you for contacting EarthLink LiveChat,
how may I help you today?

myemail@addy.com:I am getting advertising email from earthlink, even
though I have settings off in "my account"

myemail@addy.com:The email starts like this:

myemail@addy.com:Share and store all your pictures online for FREE
with theEarthLink Photo Center, powered by Snapfish.Now you can share
your pictures, get digital camera prints,process your film, and order
inexpensive, high-quality

name_protected:Let me know if you want me to opt out your email
address from the advertising list.

myemail@addy.com:I want to be opted out ... I have everything unchecked
at the earthlink control console or whatever you call it.

name_protected:Let me know the password of your primary account for
verification.

myemail@addy.com:************

name_protected:Thank you for the information.

name_protected:Kindly hold on. I will opt out your email address.

myemail@addy.com:This is what I see:

myemail@addy.com:Email: Opted Out Opt In Telephone: Opted Out Opt In
U.S. Postal Mail: Opted Out Opt In In order to improve our services,
EarthLink may purchase general demographic information about our
members. Let us know if we may include general information about you.
Information Gathering: Opted Out Opt In

name_protected:Kindly hold on.

myemail@addy.com:k

name_protected:I have opted out your email address.

name_protected:From now onwards you will not receive these emails.

myemail@addy.com:what did you do different than what I did?

myemail@addy.com:How could I have opted myself out?

myemail@addy.com:I'm not letting you off easy ;)

name_protected:I have separate Tool to opt out your email address.

myemail@addy.com:So people get spam unless they contact tech support?

name_protected:This will completely opt out your email address from
mailing list.

myemail@addy.com:Should I publish this about Earthlink?

name_protected:You can enable Spam Blocker to highest level of
protection in Webmail.

myemail@addy.com:I'd like to know if this is a bug or intentional

name_protected:Then you will receive only those emails whose addresses
are listed in your Webmail address book.

name_protected:It is not a bug.

myemail@addy.com:Please don't try and play stupid.

myemail@addy.com:You know what I am getting at ... no form responses
please,

myemail@addy.com:I had opted out already. Why did I need to contact
you to not receive Earthlink spam?

name_protected:I see that you were not able to opt opt properly from
the opt out option given to you.

name_protected:This is the reason I have reset it from an advanced
tool.

myemail@addy.com:Shall I upload an image of the opt out window,
configured as I have it

myemail@addy.com:I believe I have it configured properly ... it is
plain as day.

name_protected:Okay, Let me know the steps you have followed to opt
out.

name_protected:This will help me.

myemail@addy.com:http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/opted_out.jpg

myemail@addy.com:This is how I had it before you did anything to it.

name_protected:Yes, I see that you have done the steps correctly You
have to go to my account page and opt out of the emails.

myemail@addy.com:Ok ... so is this a bug or intentional?

name_protected:I saw that you are still receiving the emails. This is
the reason I had to reset your account again.

myemail@addy.com:So is it a bug?

name_protected:It looks like a temporary glitch at server end.

name_protected:So I had to reset it again.

name_protected:I am sure this will help you.

myemail@addy.com:Thank you for some respectful level of honesty.

myemail@addy.com:goodbye

name_protected:You're welcome and thank you for using EarthLink
LiveChat. Should you need further assistance, please feel free to
contact us again.

name_protected:Bye. Good Night.

------------------------------

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Long Distance Wrong Numbers From Everywhere (David Kirkpatrick)
    Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Phil Earnhardt)
    Social Engineering, was: Re: Honesty from Earthlink (Danny Burstein)
    Re: Cardinal/Candela Phone Systems (Robert Johnson)
    Re: What Happened to the Telecom IRC Chat Room? (McWebber)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Mark Crispin)
    Code for MSBlast Variant Posted on Line (Monty Solomon)
    Rural Areas and the Internet (Monty Solomon)
    Cable and Internet Loom Large in Fragmented Political News (M Solomon)
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From: David Kirkpatrick <davidcan@axion.net>
Subject: Long Distance Wrong Numbers From Everywhere
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:11:32 -0800


Dear Patrick, 

For about three weeks now we've been receiving (wrong number) long
distance calls from Florida, New York, Vermont, California, Ohio and
Massachusetts. When questioned, the few callers that remained on the
line reported they received a message either on their voice mail or on
their answering machine asking them to phone: 1-866-829-8229.  This is
apparently one of A T & T's numbers in the states, and it's rerouting
to our Vancouver number.

          Have you and/or your staff heard of anything like this
before? Our local provider is sorting this out; have been on the case
for 4-5 days now, but the A T & T number info we've only had for about
18 hours now.


With appreciation,

David Kirkpatrick
<mailto:davidcan@axion.net> davidcan@axion.net
604-913-2000


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried 866-829-8229 myself just now
and got (what I assume) was your answering machine. What I think has
happened is that the place in charge of assigning and routing toll
free 800 numbers -- they are referred to in the telecom business as
'RespOrgs' (or the Responsible Organizations) has somehow incorrectly
assigned your number as the recipient of these calls you are getting.
Your local service provider can do nothing for you except possibly
act in your behalf in locating the resporg and asking them to stop
the mis-routing. If that toll-free number is what I think it is, it
should be ringing to the collection department at AT&T; they want to
get the caller to pay their AT&T phone bills. My clue here is the
caller who leaves the message for the recipient does not discuss the
nature of the call or the reason for it. Laws here in the USA (Fair
Debt Collection Practices Act) forbid the 'publication' or discussion
of an alleged debt with any third party. They cannot tell 'just
anyone' who answers -- or an answering machine -- what the company
wants them to do, namely pay their bills. 

Rather than get into a discussion of all that, which will only confuse
the issue, just ask your local telco (or preferably, an 800 toll-free
specialist) to find out who is the resporg on that number 866-829-8229
and route it someplace other than your number. I'll bet anything that
there is one digit off (probably in the area code) which a data entry
operator mistakenly entered. 

Aternate solution #1: Want a toll free (and literally *free* for you)
number from the USA to ring at your premises for your convenience. 
Start giving out that number to your freinds, family, etc. Try to
ignore the hardships of the wrong number callers looking for AT&T.

Alternate guerilla solution #2:  When you are there to receive the 
calls, tell the caller that 'AT&T has decided to forgive them of their
indebtedness entirely provided they sign up with some other carrier
in the future. (?)(!).  I think if the master solution does not work
rather quickly (and it is the most honorable) then alternates 1 or 2
should work rather soon.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:52:35 -0700
Organization: Kaos OnLine Coalition


Today's Denver Post had an article about Qwest and Comcast. The main
part of the article was about Comcast's restrictions on Qwest
advertising -- and Qwest's complaining about those restrictions to no
avail.

The end of the story changed topics: Qwest announced they would begin
to offer DSL service on a line that doesn't have regular phone
service:

"Also Monday, Notebaert said Qwest will be launching later this month
a separate DSL service, which he dubbed --'naked DSL.' Before,
customers had to subscribe to Qwest's telephone service to get DSL.

The move is partly an acknowledgment that more customers are
abandoning their landline and using only a cellular phone.

The separate DSL service will go for $33 a month at a speed of 1.5
megabits per second - about the same speed as a cable modem."

I've been unable to find any details on this service: if the $33
includes an ISP, if you are really getting "unlimited" services on the
1.5Mbps pipe, etc. In any case, I applaud Qwest for finally providing
these services. There's simply no reason for many households to have
landline service; by offering "naked DSL", Qwest can provide an
alternative to cable modems in those homes.

BTW: as of now, the name nakeddsl.com is still available.

--phil


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That was the big hassle I had with
SBC: whether to retain them for phone service in order to keep the
DSL, or ditch them and lose the DSL.  They were counting heavily
on the former. In my case, they lost. Had they been willing to go
half-way with me I would have still switched to Prairie Stream for
good quality, inexpensive phone service, but retained DSL. Since
SBC kept insisting *all or nothing* I said okay, nothing. Now I
have Cable One for internet with a decent size pipe and Prairie
Stream for phone. SBC is nowhere to be found in this household. I
would bet you the success of the Qwest experiment will be watched
closely by all the (old) Bell System telcos, and soon they will
all be offering the same deal. That's how the telcos do things: 
one comes up with a bright idea, they all get in line and start
marching the same way. We've seen that time and again.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Social Engineering, was Re: Honesty from Earthlink
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:04:54 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.77.13@telecom-digest.org> spaceygum@hotpop.com (Spacey
Spade) writes:

> I was getting spam from Earthlink even though I had "opted out".  By
> the way, AFAIK, I recommend Earthlink.  Below a transcription of chat
> tech support:

[ snip ] 

> name_protected:Let me know the password of your primary account for
> verification.

> myemail@addy.com:************

Did the original poster really, really, send the account password to a
stranger?

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 

[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Cardinal/Candela Phone Systems
From: Robert Johnson <rjohnsonjr@socal.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:50:46 -0800


You might wanna try Panasonic, a Panasonic KT-XD1232 with two cabinets
could handle it ... but only ... if when you refer to 25-50 lines
being the extensions. I dont know any small hotel/motel that would
have that many lines comming into it.

Robert Johnson 

Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org> wrote about Re: Cardinal/Candela Phone
Systems on Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:44:26 -0500:

> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:39:00 -0700, Daryl R Gibson
> <drg@bluediamond.byu.edu> wrote:

>> A friend of mine has purchased a small motel that is equipped with a
>> Cardinal (some parts are Candella) phone system. The system appears
>> to be 20 years old, and a recent power bump goofed up some of the
>> programming; among other things, it means one of the units is now
>> unable to call out, others try for local calls and get other rooms,
>> etc.

>> My question is threefold:

>> 1. Is there anyone who specializes in this system?
>> 2. Does anyone on this list have any experience with them?
>> 3. Could someone recommend a suitable replacement (25-50 lines) 
>> system for future use?

> 1.  I used to carry it, but I sold all my stuff to ESI.  
> 2.  Yes, I actually might still have a manual but it's pretty
>     intuitive.
> 3.  Easiest is a Mitel SX-200.  In a cabinet at that line size you'd
>     be in the $2500 range.

> Carl Navarro

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: What Happened to the Telecom IRC Chat Room? 
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:48:50 -0500


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So I discovered by looking closely at
> the web site I helped Lisa Minter set up for telecom. But its sort of
> a mixed bag. Yes, you just say so, and press a few keys and there it
> is, but it appears to be limited to simply Yahoo Messenger subscribers,
> (and the Yahoo 'Chat Room' system rather than IRC as such. But it looks
> easier in general to use than IRC does. So anyone who wants realtime
> interactive telecom-related chat is invited to use it at Yahoo Groups.
> I do not know the URL off hand (I think you have to go in the front
> door of Groups, then to telecom-news.)    PAT]

Wow, that was hard:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/telecom-news/

The Chat section is members only. I'm not sure if that can be changed.


McWebber

"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Try appending the word /chat to the end
of the URL above, as in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/telecom-news/chat
and see how that works. But you are right, I do not think it will work
unless you are a 'member' of Yahoo Groups and that group in particular.
And that parameter cannot be changed, at least at my level or Lisa
Minter's level. Its a good temporary work around, but I still want to
see a good java-based (I assume) chat program tied into the 
http://telecom-digest.org web site directly to avoid membership 
requirements, etc. Maybe someone who really knows/is experienced in
IRC -- Internet Relay Chat -- and Java could repair what is there now
and make it work again (hint! hint! to the Madison, WI reader who
'colorized' the /latest-issue.html file for me!)    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:58:32 -0800
Organization: University of Washington


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com wrote:

> The simple fact of the matter is that Windows and it's related
> applications were explicitly designed to do things for you,
> automatically, so you don't have to know what you're doing.
> Unix-like systems and most of their applications, on the other hand,
> were designed to do exactly what you tell them and not one thing
> more, forcing you to know what you're doing in order to use them at
> all.

The flaw in this reasoning is the assumption that a design of "do
things for you, automatically, so you don't have to know what you're
doing" is a design flaw in Windows as opposed to a design requirement
of any mass market operating system.

It is a beautiful dream that everybody who uses a computer will know
what they're doing and can use a system which does exactly what it is
told to do and not one thing more.  That dream is also highly
unrealistic.

For this reason, I think that attacks on Windows by certain segments
of the UNIX community are foolish and self-defeating.  It is arrogant
to assume that UNIX programmers are somehow smarter than Windows
programmers and would never made the same mistakes.


-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:48:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Code for MSBlast Variant Posted Online


Munir Kotadia

ZDNet UK
February 17, 2004, 12:20 GMT

Users who haven't deployed the critical security patch released by
Microsoft last week are in imminent danger, after exploit code was
posted online.

A piece of code that exploits the critical vulnerability for which
Microsoft issued a patch only last week has been posted online,
raising fears of an imminent MSBlast-style attack

On 10 February, Microsoft released a patch that fixes a networking
flaw affecting all Windows XP, NT, 2000 and Windows Server 2003
systems. The company warned users to patch their systems because the
vulnerability could be exploited by virus and worm writers. Four days
after the patch was released, a piece of code was published on a
French Web site that allows anyone to exploit the vulnerability, which
means unpatched users can expect to be hit with another MSBlast-type
worm.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/security/0,39020375,39146606,00.htm

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:52:52 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Rural Areas and the Internet


http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/toc.asp?Report=112

Pew Internet Project

Table of Contents:

Summary of Findings

Part 1: Rural Internet Access: Deployment and Availability
Part 2: Rural Internet Demographics: Who's Online?
Part 3: The Activities Rural Internet Users Pursue
Part 4: Rural Attitudes Toward the Internet
Methodology
Appendices

http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/toc.asp?Report=112

http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/pdfs/PIP_Rural_Report.pdf

Excerpt from the press release:

http://www.pewinternet.org/releases/release.asp?id=73

2/17/04--Rural Americans' Internet use has grown, but they continue
to lag behind others

WASHINGTON (February 17, 2004) - There has been steady penetration of
the Internet into rural areas in recent years and more than half of
rural adults -- 52% -- now go online. However, a corresponding rise in
the percentage of urban and suburban residents going online has left a
persistent gap between rural areas and the rest of the country. Some
67% of urban residents and 66% of suburbanites are online.

A new study by the Pew Internet & American Life Project finds that the
gap is probably tied to the fact that rural residents as a group earn
less and are older than their urban and suburban counterparts.

Rural areas' are also distinct in how rural users get online. Some 19%
of online rural residents have broadband connections at home, compared
to 36% of urban residents and 32% of suburbanites. The availability of
broadband connections may be partially responsible for this
difference. Nearly a quarter of rural Internet users say they can't
get a high-speed connection in their area, whereas 5% of urban users
say this, and 10% of suburban users say a high-speed connection is
unavailable.

http://www.pewinternet.org/releases/release.asp?id=73

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:00:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cable and Internet Loom Large in Fragmented Political News


http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/toc.asp?Report=110

Cable and Internet Loom Large in Fragmented Political News Universe: 
Perceptions of Partisan Bias Seen as Growing -- Especially by 
Democrats

Joint Report with Pew Research Center

Pew Internet Project

Table of Contents:

Major Findings
Political Information Sources and The Campaign


http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/toc.asp?Report=110

http://www.pewinternet.org/reports/pdfs/PIP_Political_Info_Jan04.pdf

Excerpt from the press release:

http://www.pewinternet.org/releases/release.asp?id=72

1/12/04--The Internet is playing a growing role in politics

WASHINGTON, D.C. January 12 - More than a third of the nation's
Internet users have gone online to get news and information, exchange
emails about the race, or participate online in the current political
campaign.

Even among wired Americans, the Internet still lags far behind
television and newspapers as voters' main source of political news.
But the importance of the Internet continues to grow as it now rivals
radio as a primary source of political information. Moreover, there is
evidence that the early efforts by campaigns to engage voters through
email have drawn an audience.

http://www.pewinternet.org/releases/release.asp?id=72

------------------------------

From: Hank Karl <notgiven@nothere.com>
Subject: Re: Phantom DSL Reprised
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:31:10 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:52 GMT, Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
wrote:

> The issue may be splitter vs splitterless DSL.  IIRC, adding a
> splitter allows you a little more distance on the line.   It may be
> that your LEC doesn't have cards that can do splitterless DSL, or the
> distance is to far for splitterless ADSL.  

Business and residential have similar offerings (business has a few
more options).  The ones I looked at are priced about the same for the
same level of service.

In my area (SNET/SBC) there's a big difference between the $160 and
the $30 package:

The difference between the packages:

The $159.95/month package has an intro price of about $75/month for
three months.  It is 1.5M-6.0M down and 384K up, and seems to require
a splitter to be installed.  You also get 5 static IP addresses, a
"$378" router that SBC sells for $199 (Cayman 3546 w/ADSL modem).

There are a couple of 29.95 intro packages (its $29.95 if you have SBC
all-distance).  The cheapest one is $29.95 with a one-year commitment.
This is limited to 384K down, 128K up. You get a couple of choices for
equipment. (One is a wireless router with PCMCIA card)  The single IP
address is dynamic.)

> Ears perk!  ***RESIDENTIAL***(?) DSL!  There's a difference between
> residential DSL and business DSL, and it's the price they can charge
> for it!

> "Yes, sir.  We can provide business DSL at $159.95 per month."

> Out of my league, if I was running a business out of here, I might
> consider it, but I'm not, so I thanked the person and hung up.

> As I backtracked through the web pages I had visited, all of them had
> a seemingly innucuous set of buttons, "business" vs. "residential."  I
> didn't try the experiment, but I suspect that if I clicked "business"
> it would have shown that DSL was available, at a steep price.

> So, it seems, the providers are hoarding the DSL circuits in my CO so
> they can milk the businesses for $160 bucks a month before offering it
> to residential customers (going rate about $30 per month).  High speed
> access through the cable company is about $50.00 per month.

> Unless there are regulations against this, I guess I'm SOL (and so is
> the original poster.)

------------------------------

From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: Experts Warn of Microsoft 'Monoculture'
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:12:50 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


email@crazyhat.net wrote:

> Yeah, we'd all get a $5 coupon for our next purchase of a Microsoft
> service pack (which they'd start charging for to cover the cost of the
> lawsuit)

Many times I've seen companies charge for firmware upgrades that
customers want because of new features, but give the firmware upgrades
away free if they were needed to fix a bug.  I'd love to see a law
that requires software publishers to provide customers with a freee
upgrade if that's what's required to fix a serious bug or plug a
vulnerability.

It would definitely revolutionize the software industry - or at least
split it into two groups that even executives could tell apart: those
who stand by their products and those who are required to state on the
package and in all advertising and catalog listings that their product
should not be relied upon.

It scares the crap out of me the way that big companies put big bucks
on the line using off the shelf software with histories of big bugs
and no one -- CIO, CFO, CEO, whoever -- ever stops to ask, "what if that
software screwed up and the aftermath cost us a hundred million
dollars?"


Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
Commodore PET

------------------------------

From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:42:00 EST 


lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com wrote:

> But the simple fact of the matter is that Windows and it's related
> applications were explicitly designed to do things for you,
> automatically, so you don't have to know what you're doing.  Unix-like
> systems and most of their applications, on the other hand, were
> designed to do exactly what you tell them and not one thing more,
> forcing you to know what you're doing in order to use them at all.

The implication here is that current technology forces us to choose
between security and user-friendliness.  I can hope that someone will
invest techniques to make things user-friendly without making them
insecure, but my cynical side tells me that these new techniques will
be either secure or user-friendly, but not both.

I must force myself to <grin> because mixing that observation with the
level of stupidity that humans demonstrate at every possible
opportunity leads us to the very frightening conclusion that no
popular system can ever be secure.


William Robison wrote:

> Are we all asking the wrong question about virus software?

> Why do we all keep using IE and Outlook?  (kinda like hitting your
> thumb with a hammer, over and over).

That's like asking why we use the tires that come with our cars when
there are so many better ones available.  They're there and they work.
Even if the replacements were free, not everyone is going to be aware
of the advantages of the alternatives and not everyone who is aware is
going to choose to invest the time and effort.

> How many times do we have to be explotied before we realize
> there has to be a better way (and there are, certainly, many
> alternatives to IE/Outlook).

Users have developed a comfort level with Microsoft OSes and
applications; they are what everyone supports and talks.  Even if a
user is aware that they have been compromised (it's amazing how many
computer users cannot grasp the simplest principles of operation, let
alone notice when their computer is misbehaving) and they're aware of
the existence of alternatives, they may not feel comfortable wandering
away from the familiar.

The fact that Microsoft seems to be implying that their patch process
is a good enough solution doesn't help.

> But don't you think that if the whole world started using *nix to
> the extent they now use Windows the virus writers (like that snotty
> teenage kid discussed about here in the Digest a couple weeks ago)
> wouldn't shift gears and start writing things to mess with *nix like
> they do Windows now?  I suspect the only reason some mail programs
> are relatively 'immune' at the present time is just a question of
> where to get the biggest bang for the buck where the virus writers
> are concerned.  PAT]

I've said the same thing in the past in various forums and been
criticized for it -- do Mac and UNIX mail applications execute
attachments as quickly and casually as Outlook [Express]?

That said, many readers here will recall that RTM's internet worm
(does anyone have an authoritative pice to say whether it was the
first or not?)  ran on UNIX and exploited Sendmail vulnerabilities;
IIRC, Microsoft did not have an internet-capable platform at the time.


Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
Commodore PET

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    Cingular's Sensation (Eric Friedebach)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (McWebber)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Kyler Laird)
    Re: Need Telephone Selection Advice for Small Business (Eric Katz)
    Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash (Monty Solomon)
    RIAA Sued Under Gang Laws (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Social Engineering, was Re: Honesty from Earthlink (G Novosielski)
    Re: Social Engineering, was Re: Honesty from Earthlink (Spacey Spade)
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From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Cingular's Sensation
Date: 18 Feb 2004 12:55:46 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aude Lagorce, 02.17.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - Cingular Wireless just spent $41 billion on breathing room.
But don't expect Verizon Wireless or Vodafone to let their rival catch
its breath.

Cingular, the second-largest U.S. mobile operator, snatched
number-three AT&T Wireless with an all-cash offer this morning after a
weekend-long bidding battle with U.K. giant Vodafone. While the deal
is being heralded by analysts as finally bringing about some
much-needed consolidation to a fiercely competitive industry, it may
not bring as much as some had hoped.

By all accounts, Cingular's decision to offer an extra $3 billion
overnight to cinch the deal was right. From the beginning, the carrier
-- a joint venture of SBC Communications and BellSouth--was better
able to justify paying a premium for AT&T Wireless than Vodafone
could, because of the operational and technical cost synergies it
would derive from the deal. And at $15 in cash per share, "Cingular
did not overpay," says Andrew Cole, a senior vice president with
telecom strategy consultancy Adventis.

http://forbes.com/technology/2004/02/17/cx_al_0217cingular.html


Eric Friedebach
/Mortgage your Viagra!/

------------------------------

From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:57:08 -0500


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That was the big hassle I had with
> SBC: whether to retain them for phone service in order to keep the
> DSL, or ditch them and lose the DSL.  They were counting heavily
> on the former. In my case, they lost. Had they been willing to go
> half-way with me I would have still switched to Prairie Stream for
> good quality, inexpensive phone service, but retained DSL. Since
> SBC kept insisting *all or nothing* I said okay, nothing. Now I
> have Cable One for internet with a decent size pipe and Prairie
> Stream for phone. SBC is nowhere to be found in this household. I
> would bet you the success of the Qwest experiment will be watched
> closely by all the (old) Bell System telcos, and soon they will
> all be offering the same deal. That's how the telcos do things:
> one comes up with a bright idea, they all get in line and start
> marching the same way. We've seen that time and again.  PAT]

Verizon recently caved and now allows DSL only subscriptions, so I'm
sure Qworst looked at that before making the decision.


McWebber
No email replies read
If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends
please forget that I'm your friend.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
From: Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org>
Organization: Insight Broadband
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:11:55 GMT


Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com> writes:

> The end of the story changed topics: Qwest announced they would begin
> to offer DSL service on a line that doesn't have regular phone
> service:

> "Also Monday, Notebaert said Qwest will be launching later this month
> a separate DSL service, which he dubbed --'naked DSL.' Before,
> customers had to subscribe to Qwest's telephone service to get DSL.

Qwest is confused.  It can't be done.  J. Michael Healy
<JMHealy@NO.SPAM.bellsouth.net> explained the technical details long
ago.

	http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vwrn2.866%24mv6.1345865%40news3.mia&output=gplain

Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
company in the country.


--kyler

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Kyler, I think you are confused,
not Qworst. You don't have to have dialtone on a line, just battery.
When I had my recorded message service running back in the 1970's with
several racks of the old intercept style machines from Illinois Bell,
the lines (25 or so of them) were *one way inbound* only. There was no
dial tone provided, but you could hear sidetone, which is to say when
you blew a bit of air into the mouthpiece, you heard it out your
earpiece. If a phone is totally 'dead' you won't get that. I've seen
other telephones similar, used as manual intercoms. And Bell *does*
get money for those arrangements; they give nothing for free. I am
sure what they do is provide a circuit with no dial tone, tie it up
across the central office to the location where the ISP-like DSL
office is located. They assign it a non-dialable circuit number for
billing purposes so that no one can call into it either.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Google123@vinfo.com (Eric Katz)
Subject: Re: Need Telephone Selection Advice for Small Business
Date: 18 Feb 2004 14:54:15 -0800


Vito,

We too were looking to simplify our phone system and get costs down.
We had 8 Verizon CentraNet lines and a complex Panasonic PBX\VM system
(a total nightmare to program ... just adjusting the time for daylight
savings time was unreal!)

We were also dealing with a live answering service to handle overflow
or after hours calls.

We are now down to two business lines and a DSL line (which we also
use for voice.)  We picked up the AT&T 955 and 944 phones at Staples.
They are great. We can intercom between all of them, hold, transfer
and conference: they also have caller ID. However they are 4 line
phones and can accommodate up to 12 extensions.

But what helped us cut costs the most and remain accessible to our
clients was a virtual voice mail \ auto attendant system we found
called FreedomPro (from <ahref="http://www.voiceinformation.com/">
www.voiceinformation.com</a>). This service is great ... it handles
our toll-free needs, it provides call forwarding, call screening,
voice mail and all our other attendant \ answering service needs.

We use their internet interface to tell the system to which local
number and at what times to forward callers.  It will even track us
down if we want, bouncing from phone number to phone number until we
answer.  It will exhaust all programmed numbers before giving our
caller the VM option.  We receive our voice messages via email
broadcast or we can retrieve them manually by calling the system or
going online via the FreedomPro interface.

The toll-free, long distance and international rates offered are much
better than what Verizon could do for us. We've cut our monthly costs
from about $430 down to about $185 and have sacrificed nothing ...
rather, we've gained in terms of reliability and ease of use.

Good luck!

Eric

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:04:02 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash


ST. PAUL (AP) -- The rising popularity of Internet telephones could 
undermine the finances of the state's 911 systems while endangering 
some users because the new technology doesn't alway mesh with the old 
emergency system.

So-called Internet telephony's popularity worries Jim Beutelspacher,
manager of the statewide 911 program for the Department of Public
Safety, because it doesn't pay a 40-cent-per-month tax for each new
subscriber.

Last fiscal year, a 33-cent 911 fee generated $20.8 million. The
higher fee this year is expected to bring in $25.4 million, mainly to
pay for connections to public safety call centers, Beutelspacher said.

But if more people drop their regular telephone service in favor of
tax-free Internet calling, the financial underpinnings of 911 will be
weakened, he said.

The problems have been noted within the industry, but it's expected to
become a bigger issue as more people turn to Internet telephony
because it can be cheaper than regular telephone service.


      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40635970

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:53:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: RIAA Sued Under Gang Laws


By John Borland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

It's probably not the first time that record company executives have
been likened to Al Capone, but this time a judge might have to agree
or disagree.

A New Jersey woman, one of the hundreds of people accused of 
copyright infringement by the Recording Industry Association of 
America, has countersued the big record labels, charging them with 
extortion and violations of the federal antiracketeering act.

Through her attorneys, Michele Scimeca contends that by suing 
file-swappers for copyright infringement, and then offering to settle 
instead of pursuing a case where liability could reach into the 
hundreds of thousands of dollars, the RIAA is violating the same laws 
that are more typically applied to gangsters and organized crime.


http://news.com.com/2100-1027-5161209.html

------------------------------

From: Gary Novosielski <gpn@suespammers.org>
Subject: Re: Social Engineering, was Re: Honesty from Earthlink
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:24:37 GMT


Danny Burstein wrote:

> Did the original poster really, really, send the account password to a
> stranger?

That caught my eye too.  If I were calling, the conversation would have 
gone more like this:

      Tech support: Let me have your account password for verification

      Me:  <laughter> What are you, NUTS!? <more laughter>

Doesn't Earthlink have the usual disclaimer of "None of our employees
will ever ask you for your password"?  If not, *why* not?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Usually, places like that ask you for
some other piece of personal information instead of a *password*, 
such as mother's maiden name, or the last four digits of the card you
use to pay for your account, etc. Or maybe, your street address or
zip code. Something *you* would know, yet would not be common
knowledge.  Anything but an actual *password*.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: spaceygum@hotpop.com (Spacey Spade)
Subject: Re: Social Engineering, was Re: Honesty from Earthlink
Date: 18 Feb 2004 18:19:38 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.78.3@telecom-digest.org>:

> In <telecom23.77.13@telecom-digest.org> spaceygum@hotpop.com (Spacey
> Spade) writes:

>> I was getting spam from Earthlink even though I had "opted out".  By
>> the way, AFAIK, I recommend Earthlink.  Below a transcription of chat
>> tech support:

> [ snip ] 
 
>> name_protected:Let me know the password of your primary account for
>> verification.

>> myemail@addy.com:************

> Did the original poster really, really, send the account password to a
> stranger?

Yep.  I thought it strange she would ask for my password, but I am the
opposite of paranoid.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are like so many of the newer and
inexperienced internet users these days. AOL for example, on every
single page presented to users -- especially interactive chat pages --
always says 'An employee of AOL will NEVER ask for your password'. They
know their users believe everything which is typed on the screen in
front of them; treat it like gospel truth; "An employee of the
internet told me I had to re-register my account (through them) or 
else it would be cancelled."   PAT]

------------------------------

From: JL <no@spam.com>
Subject: Reliable Means of Determining Servicing LEC For Given Phone Number?
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:38:07 -0800


Does anyone know of a reliable means of determining the servicing LEC for a
given phone number?

I'm trying to find a reliable means of determining what is the
servicing LEC for any given phone number. Right now this is limited to
only needing to work for CA. USA phone numbers. Using the various
resources (LERG, and other similar databases) I can get down to what
the operating Company is for a given NPA/NXX but with Thousand Number
(block) Pooling, and porting of numbers, there are over lapping
NPA/NXXs for various providers, and while the operating company for a
given NPA/NXX maybe SBC (Pacific Bell) the line may in fact be
serviced by Verizon (GTE).

So far I'm at a loss as to how to reliably perform, what in an ideal
world, would be a simple search.

-JL

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: My SBC Experience (was Re: Phantom DSL Reprised)
Organization: ATCC
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:30:58 GMT


In article <telecom23.77.6@telecom-digest.org>,
nospam@crashelectronics.com says:

> Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net> wrote:

> It was an Illinois Bell customer service rep who spent about half an
> hour going over available numbers with me when setting up new service
> at my first house -- two cool numbers (xxx-8088 and xx8-0386), no
> extra charge.  OK, they don't do this any more (who does?).  But they
> did then.

Verizon does -- they call them Vanity numbers now and of course
there's a charge.

> It was an Ameritech customer service rep who told me about Alternate
> Answering and Busy Line Transfer (combined cost: $1.50/mo) when I
> called to order Call Forwarding ($18/mo or thereabouts).  In my
> situation the cheaper alternative actually did what I wanted better
> than the more expensive (but popular and heavily advertised) choice.

Sometimes service droids are helpful, most times they are not. You
definitely were fortunate to catch someone who knew of the existence
of the service. That seems to be the main problem when dealing with
phone company personnel these days -- they just don't know what the
company offers or is capable of. The fact that Verizon DSL didn't know
they could call Verizon repair and run a loop length test comes
glaringly to mind.

> It was SBC who had my DSL up in 3 days when they promised it in a
> week.  And when I had a bizarre intermittent problem with it, they
> had two trucks out for the better part of an afternoon, and again
> the next day, and fixed it.  (It was a flaky line card in the RT --
> worked about 99.9% of the time.)

Around here it's flaky and crappy outside plant. They're just counting
the days before the massive fiber drop starts happening around
here. The nice thing about it is in areas like mine -- we're already
served by underground electric, and fiber can co-exist peacefully in
those very same cable ducts.

But knowing Verizon they'd put aerial drops of fiber because that's
how the phone service is currently fed in.
 
> Illinois Bell/Ameritech/SBC has never crammed me -- and when one of my
> employees didn't say "NO!" loudly enough to some teleslime and I ended
> up with "Voicenet E-mail by phone" on my bill, it was SBC who cleared
> the charge and told Integretel where to stuff it.

> Maybe I just lead a charmed life.

In my case -- they know I'm a customer that won't back down and have 
friends in high enough places to cause them massive discomfort. 

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:41:32 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Geoffrey Welsh wrote:

> lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com wrote:

>> But the simple fact of the matter is that Windows and it's related
>> applications were explicitly designed to do things for you,
>> automatically, so you don't have to know what you're doing.  Unix-like
>> systems and most of their applications, on the other hand, were
>> designed to do exactly what you tell them and not one thing more,
>> forcing you to know what you're doing in order to use them at all.

Mark Crispin wrote:  

> The flaw in this reasoning is the assumption that a design of "do
> things for you, automatically, so you don't have to know what you're
> doing" is a design flaw in Windows as opposed to a design requirement
> of any mass market operating system.

> It is a beautiful dream that everybody who uses a computer will know
> what they're doing and can use a system which does exactly what it is
> told to do and not one thing more.  That dream is also highly
> unrealistic.

For this reason, I think that attacks on Windows by certain segments
of the UNIX community are foolish and self-defeating.  It is arrogant
to assume that UNIX programmers are somehow smarter than Windows
programmers and would never made the same mistakes.

My comment:

In any system design there are many tradeoffs to be made often between
opposite forces.  Security and convenience are two such forces.
Performance and flexibiilty, for example, are in the same category.
When M$ made it's design deicision, they chose convenience, but more
importantly, they chose a "tight-coupling" between components in order
to make the "convenience" aspect easier to provide.  (This presumes
that the decision was a conscious one and didn't "just happen" because
the programmers wanted it that way.)

Unix, on the other hand, started out more-or-less as loosely coupled
components.  Partially because of the hardware limitations in the
70's.  You just couldn't run a 10 MB program on a 512K machine!  (By
the time M$ was developing the latest versions(s) of Windows, 100-200
MB of RAM was not uncommon.)

Having said that, neither way is intrinsically better than the other.

With a "monolothic structure" (e.g. you can't strip the browser out of
the OS without crippling it, so M$ claims), almost any flaw (security
bug) will manifest itself in all aspects of the operation.  Fixing it
properly should involve complete regression testing of EVERYTHING!

With a loosely-coupled structure, a flaw in any program does not
USUALLY mean that everything in the system is broken.  In theory, only
the buggy program need be fixed.  If the bug is in a "library routine"
used by almost everyone, then this case degenerates into the same
scenario as the monolithic case above.

So, no, Unix programmers are no smarter than Windows programmers.  It
is just that the bugs are usually in isolated code, not in the big
monolith.

Just my $0.02.

See the signature line for the parting shot. :)

> The implication here is that current technology forces us to choose
> between security and user-friendliness.  I can hope that someone will
> invest techniques to make things user-friendly without making them
> insecure, but my cynical side tells me that these new techniques will
> be either secure or user-friendly, but not both.

> I must force myself to <grin> because mixing that observation with the
> level of stupidity that humans demonstrate at every possible
> opportunity leads us to the very frightening conclusion that no
> popular system can ever be secure.

> William Robison wrote:

>> Are we all asking the wrong question about virus software?

>> Why do we all keep using IE and Outlook?  (kinda like hitting your
>> thumb with a hammer, over and over).

> That's like asking why we use the tires that come with our cars when
> there are so many better ones available.  They're there and they work.
> Even if the replacements were free, not everyone is going to be aware
> of the advantages of the alternatives and not everyone who is aware is
> going to choose to invest the time and effort.

>> How many times do we have to be explotied before we realize
>> there has to be a better way (and there are, certainly, many
>> alternatives to IE/Outlook).

> Users have developed a comfort level with Microsoft OSes and
> applications; they are what everyone supports and talks.  Even if a
> user is aware that they have been compromised (it's amazing how many
> computer users cannot grasp the simplest principles of operation, let
> alone notice when their computer is misbehaving) and they're aware of
> the existence of alternatives, they may not feel comfortable wandering
> away from the familiar.

> The fact that Microsoft seems to be implying that their patch process
> is a good enough solution doesn't help.

>> But don't you think that if the whole world started using *nix to
>> the extent they now use Windows the virus writers (like that snotty
>> teenage kid discussed about here in the Digest a couple weeks ago)
>> wouldn't shift gears and start writing things to mess with *nix like
>> they do Windows now?  I suspect the only reason some mail programs
>> are relatively 'immune' at the present time is just a question of
>> where to get the biggest bang for the buck where the virus writers
>> are concerned.  PAT]

> I've said the same thing in the past in various forums and been
> criticized for it -- do Mac and UNIX mail applications execute
> attachments as quickly and casually as Outlook [Express]?

> That said, many readers here will recall that RTM's internet worm
> (does anyone have an authoritative pice to say whether it was the
> first or not?)  ran on UNIX and exploited Sendmail vulnerabilities;
> IIRC, Microsoft did not have an internet-capable platform at the time.

> Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
> Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
> Commodore PET

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:23:37 -0500


In article <telecom23.78.12@telecom-digest.org>, Geoffrey Welsh
<reply@newsgroup.please> wrote:

> That said, many readers here will recall that RTM's internet worm
> (does anyone have an authoritative pice to say whether it was the
> first or not?)  ran on UNIX and exploited Sendmail vulnerabilities;
> IIRC, Microsoft did not have an internet-capable platform at the time.

Times were different.  That happened before the Internet was opened up
to anyone willing to pay $10/month for access.  Those of us who were
on the Internet were a relatively benign community, and we mostly
trusted each other.  Few organizations bothered with firewalls at the
time (if you did want one, you had to construct it yourself -- there
weren't any off-the-shelf products yet).  The sendmail vulnerability
was quite blatant: you connected to the SMTP port and typed something
like "DBUG", and you could then send arbitrary commands that would be
executed by the root-owned server process.  It was like a small town
where everyone feels safe leaving their doors unlocked.

But the landscape has changed since then.  The commercialization of
the Internet has opened it up to all segments of the community; we're
living in an inner city where there are lots of dangerous people we
need to watch out for.

Microsoft had the opportunity to learn from our early experiences, but
did they really take advantage of it?  It seems not, since allowing
the mail reader to execute active code in messages is not much
different from the sendmail vulnerability that we plugged 15 years
ago.  To extend my analogy, Windows seems like a suburbanite driving
into a ghetto and leaving his sports car unlocked and unattended; we
shouldn't be surprised if it gets stripped or taken for a joy-ride.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Cell Phone Rings Equal Bling Bling
Date: 18 Feb 2004 12:53:55 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Chana R. Schoenberger, 02.17.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - The newest hip-hop accessory for the urban set: a cell
phone with rap-inspired ring tones.

Phone users are rushing to download tiny music files that blare when a
phone rings or when the user has voicemail. And what they want on
their phones is hip-hop music. The most popular ring tone downloaded
onto cell phones last year was taken from the song "In Da Club," by
rapper 50 Cent, and the current front-runner is Grammy winner OutKast.
Seven of the ten most-downloaded ring tones in 2003 on the Cingular
Wireless network were hip-hop songs.

Ring tones are big business, with $2.5 billion spent to buy them
worldwide last year. In the United States, phone users spent $80
million on them in 2003, quadruple what they paid in 2002. This year,
they are expected to spend north of $100 million, according to the
Yankee Group research firm. Each file typically costs between 99 cents
and $2.49, depending on the sound quality. But users don't seem to be
deterred by the price.

http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/2004/02/17/cz_cs_0217ringtones.html

(Note from Eric)

Not long ago I was riding up an elevator with a half-dozen or so other
people. As soon as the doors shut, we all heard a soft "whoop-whoop"
sound, like an alarm from a sci-fi movie. This went on for a few
floors until I finally said "Okay, who's the wise guy with the Star
Trek ringtone?" Nobody 'fessed up or made a move to answer a handset.

Later that day I was riding down the same elevator, but alone this
time. I heard the same noise, and traced the source to the ceiling of
the elevator.

Eric Friedebach
/Mortgage your Viagra!/

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From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Long Distance Wrong Numbers From Everywhere
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:22:32 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Patrick basically got it right, but, for those who may not now how 800
service works:

There is conceptually "no such thing" as an 800 number (or 888, 877,
866).  Switches are programmed to make a "dip" into a network database
when they see these prefixes.

In the network database is a "routing table" which matches on dialed
number, originating NPA-NXX, and time of day, among other things, to
look up the actual "POTS" line to which to route the call.  No part of
the POTS number need match any digits of the 800 number.

Thus, dialing 866-222-3333 from 973 may get you Joe's Pizza in Madison
NJ while dialing the same number from 937 (Southern Ohio) may get you
Horst's Hofbrau Haus in Cincinatti.

Since David did get the calls from all over the country, this is not
the case and it is probably a "global" routing, meaning route to the
same number whatever the originating NPA.

The other variation is time of day, which can be programmed in 15
minutes intervals.  For example, between 8 AM and 11 AM Eastern Time,
route all calls to a call center in the eastern time zone.  11 AM to 1
PM, route them 50% each to numbers in the eastern and central
time-zones, etc., etc.  Large companies with multiple "call-centers"
use this feature.

If these calls are happening at a particular time of day, then only a
portion of the routing table is messed up.

Nick L.

David Kirkpatrick wrote:

> Dear Patrick, 

> For about three weeks now we've been receiving (wrong number) long
> distance calls from Florida, New York, Vermont, California, Ohio and
> Massachusetts. When questioned, the few callers that remained on the
> line reported they received a message either on their voice mail or on
> their answering machine asking them to phone: 1-866-829-8229.  This is
> apparently one of A T & T's numbers in the states, and it's rerouting
> to our Vancouver number.

>           Have you and/or your staff heard of anything like this
> before? Our local provider is sorting this out; have been on the case
> for 4-5 days now, but the A T & T number info we've only had for about
> 18 hours now.

> With appreciation,

> David Kirkpatrick
> <mailto:davidcan@axion.net> davidcan@axion.net
> 604-913-2000

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried 866-829-8229 myself just now
> and got (what I assume) was your answering machine. What I think has
> happened is that the place in charge of assigning and routing toll
> free 800 numbers -- they are referred to in the telecom business as
> 'RespOrgs' (or the Responsible Organizations) has somehow incorrectly
> assigned your number as the recipient of these calls you are getting.
> Your local service provider can do nothing for you except possibly
> act in your behalf in locating the resporg and asking them to stop
> the mis-routing. If that toll-free number is what I think it is, it
> should be ringing to the collection department at AT&T; they want to
> get the caller to pay their AT&T phone bills. My clue here is the
> caller who leaves the message for the recipient does not discuss the
> nature of the call or the reason for it. Laws here in the USA (Fair
> Debt Collection Practices Act) forbid the 'publication' or discussion
> of an alleged debt with any third party. They cannot tell 'just
> anyone' who answers -- or an answering machine -- what the company
> wants them to do, namely pay their bills. 

> Rather than get into a discussion of all that, which will only confuse
> the issue, just ask your local telco (or preferably, an 800 toll-free
> specialist) to find out who is the resporg on that number 866-829-8229
> and route it someplace other than your number. I'll bet anything that
> there is one digit off (probably in the area code) which a data entry
> operator mistakenly entered. 

> Aternate solution #1: Want a toll free (and literally *free* for you)
> number from the USA to ring at your premises for your convenience. 
> Start giving out that number to your freinds, family, etc. Try to
> ignore the hardships of the wrong number callers looking for AT&T.

> Alternate guerilla solution #2:  When you are there to receive the 
> calls, tell the caller that 'AT&T has decided to forgive them of their
> indebtedness entirely provided they sign up with some other carrier
> in the future. (?)(!).  I think if the master solution does not work
> rather quickly (and it is the most honorable) then alternates 1 or 2
> should work rather soon.  PAT]


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

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Date: 18 Feb 2004 21:13:47 -0000
From: palee@riteaid.com
Subject: Re: Long Distance Wrong Numbers From Everywhere


In TELECOM Digest V23 #78, David Kirkpatrick <davidcan@axion.net>
wrote (in part):

> For about three weeks now we've been receiving (wrong number)
> long distance calls from Florida, New York, Vermont, California,
> Ohio and Massachusetts. When questioned, the few callers that
> remained on the line reported they received a message either on
> their voice mail or on their answering machine asking them to
> phone: 1-866-829-8229.  This is apparently one of A T & T's
> numbers in the states, and it's rerouting to our Vancouver number.

According to SBC's RespOrg identification service, the RespOrg for
866-829-8229 is "SPSC1" with a trouble reporting number of 800-600-1186.
That appears to be Call-Net / Sprint Canada. I suggest you call the
trouble reporting number and let them know that at least some calls to
866-829-8229 are being misrouted to your number. They should be able to
take care of it within 15 to 30 minutes at most.


Paul A Lee <palee@riteaid.com> Voice: +1 717 730-8355
Sr Telecom Engineer [Voice & Transmission] Fax: +1 717 975-3789
Rite Aid Corporation, Telecomm, 30 Hunter Lane, Camp Hill, PA 17011-2410

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From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Long Distance Wrong Numbers From Everywhere
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:59:46 -0500


David Kirkpatrick <davidcan@axion.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.78.1@telecom-digest.org:

> For about three weeks now we've been receiving (wrong number) long
> distance calls from Florida, New York, Vermont, California, Ohio and
> Massachusetts. When questioned, the few callers that remained on the
> line reported they received a message either on their voice mail or on
> their answering machine asking them to phone: 1-866-829-8229.  This is
> apparently one of A T & T's numbers in the states, and it's rerouting
> to our Vancouver number.

TELECOM Digest Editor gave smart-mouth solution to problem:

> Alternate guerilla solution #2:  When you are there to receive the
> calls, tell the caller that 'AT&T has decided to forgive them of their
> indebtedness entirely provided they sign up with some other carrier
> in the future. (?)(!).  I think if the master solution does not work
> rather quickly (and it is the most honorable) then alternates 1 or 2
> should work rather soon.  PAT]

#3: When the caller ID shows some US number you don't recognize answer the
phone, "White House, George Bush speaking."


McWebber

"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

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From: none@none.com
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:56:01 -0800
Organization: -


On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:21:07 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> By Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus

> A small and diverse band of hobbyists steeped in the obscure languages
> of embedded systems has released its own custom firmware for a popular
> brand of cable modem, along with a technique for loading it -- a
> development that's already made life easier for uncappers and service
> squatters, and threatens to topple long-held assumptions about the
> privacy of cable modem communications.

> The program, called Sigma, was released in its final version last
> month, and has reportedly been downloaded 350 to 400 times a day ever
> since. It's designed to be flashed into the non-volatile memory of
> certain models of Motorola's Surfboard line, where it runs in parallel
> with the device's normal functionality. It gives users almost complete
> control of their cable modem -- a privilege previously reserved for
> the service provider.

> The project is the work of a gang of coders called TCNiSO. With about
> ten active members worldwide, the group is supported by contributions
> from the uncapping community -- speed-hungry Internet users who rely
> on TCNiSO's research and free hackware to surmount the bandwidth caps
> imposed by service providers, usually in violation of their service
> agreement, if not the law. To them, Sigma is a delight, because it
> makes it simple to change the modem's configuration file -- the key to
> uncapping, and, on some systems, to getting free anonymous service
> using "unregistered" modems. "I've known TCNiSO for two years now and
> I've done a lot of things with their techniques," wrote a Canadian
> uncapper in an e-mail interview. "Sigma is the greatest one I've
> seen."

> http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7977

One of the things that has me concerned and hope others is what was
listed in the article. That cable modem traffic is pinged or actually
"Routed" off other cable modems, so that traffic can be handled more
effectively as a huge LAN

My questions is:

1) Where is the security for traffic on this network?
2) Why has the cable modem services industry not taken a lead to
   encrypt or block access of traffic not deemed for a particular router
   off-limits, so that it can be shared with another user???

Jeremy supercommodore@maildotcom

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Although I do not know the particulars 
of this, I do know that Mr. Mike Flood, the general manager of Cable
One, here in Independence told me 'that was all taken care of recently'
when I asked him 'what prevents everyone on the cable from showing up
in my Network Neighborhood, and the other way around.' I am sorry to
say I did not understand his sort of technical explanation. Maybe some
of you could explain it to me in simple words. Its not a problem with
DSL, since everyone goes to the central office on their own pair. But
with a cable strung around, what *does* prevent us from being each 
other's Neighbor for spy purposes, etc.  Anyone?    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:35:49 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Very, Very Personal Is the Political


By JON GERTNER

Suppose, for the sake of argument, that you are called into the 
boss's office and asked to help sell the citizens of the United 
States on one of two presidential candidates in the 2004 campaign. 
Hard work, but what makes it especially tough is that you've been 
directed to try something experimental, something that's never been 
done before in a national election. 

Instead of creating a traditional political narrative for your
candidate -- one that highlights charisma or character, for instance,
or one that hews to a message on taxes or Social Security -- you've
been told to focus on nothing but the people who might be persuaded to
vote. In other words, forget about your candidate's nuanced ideas for
space exploration or ending the conflict in Iraq. Forget about TV
commercials, forget about radio, forget about debates, forget about
the ups and downs of the news cycle. Think voters -- just voters.

And don't think only in terms of big demographic groups like senior
citizens, middle-class white men or young single women; don't think
about them only in terms of geographical areas like districts or
precincts or even neighborhoods. Think about what they like, what they
do, what they consume. Think about them one by one. Name by name,
address by address, phone by phone.

These are the customers you have to get to buy your Brand A over 
Brand B. So who are they? Where are they? Are they rich, with three 
kids and a jumbo mortgage? Do they own fly rods and drive minivans? 
Do they go to church or temple? And maybe most important, who among 
them has never voted, or rarely voted, or voted in ways that may 
deserve the special status of swing voter? To do the job right, of 
course, to really win this thing, you've got to find them, woo them 
and get them to the polls. Where to start?

These days, the first stop is a comprehensive database of U.S. 
voters. There are fewer than half a dozen of them. One, named Voter 
Vault, belongs to the Republican National Committee; another, named 
Datamart, belongs to the Democratic National Committee. Over the past 
few years, thanks to technological advances and an escalating arms 
race between the parties, Republicans and Democrats have gone to 
great lengths to make campaigning more like commercial marketing. 

Moreover, both parties have begun to sort through their troves of 
information in order to identify and then court individual voters. 
Variations on the new political sharpshooting have been tested 
successfully by the Republican and Democratic Parties in several 
recent statewide elections. And over the next few months, a handful 
of pollsters, tacticians and statisticians on each side, almost 
certainly fewer than two dozen political pros in all, will be 
scrutinizing socioeconomic data in Washington and Virginia as a part 
of their targeting work -- sometimes they also call it microtargeting 
 -- in the coming general election.

This is a complicated business. Each party's databank has the name of
every one of the 168 million or so registered voters in the country,
cross-indexed with phone numbers, addresses, voting history, income
range and so on -- up to as many as several hundred points of data on
each voter. The information has been acquired from state
voter-registration rolls, census reports, consumer data-mining
companies and direct marketing vendors. The parties have also amassed
detailed information about the political and social beliefs that you
might have shared with canvassers who have phoned or knocked on the
door over the past few years. 

While specifics vary, a typical voter profile like my own, for
instance, would show my age, address, phone numbers; which elections
I've voted in over the past 10 or 15 years and whether I've ever voted
on an absentee ballot; and my e-mail address. It would include my New
Jersey party registration (Democrat), whether I've ever made a
political donation (none that I recall), my approximate income, my
ethnicity, my marital status and the number of children living in my
house. Thanks to the ready availability of subscriber lists, mortgage
data and product warranty information, the parties might use records
of the newspapers I read (this one), the computer I work on (a
Macintosh), the men's-wear catalogs I receive (Brooks Brothers, Land's
End) and the loan-to-value ratio of my home.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/15/magazine/15VOTERS.html

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From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: The Five Sisters
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:55:26 -0500


In article <telecom23.77.3@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com says:

> By WILLIAM SAFIRE

> WASHINGTON - If one huge corporation controlled both the production
> and the dissemination of most of our news and entertainment, couldn't
> it rule the world?

> Can't happen here, you say; America is the land of competition that 
> generates new technology to ensure a diversity of voices. But 
> consider how a supine Congress and a feckless majority of the Federal 
> Communications Commission have been failing to protect our access to 
> a variety of news, views and entertainment.

> The media giant known as Viacom-CBS-MTV just showed us how it
> controls both content and communication of the sexiest Super Bowl.
> The five other big sisters that now bestride the world are (1)
> Murdoch-FoxTV-HarperCollins-WeeklyStandard-NewYorkPost-
> LondonTimes-DirecTV;
> (2) G.E.-NBC-Universal-Vivendi; (3) Time-Warner-CNN-AOL; (4)
> Disney-ABC-ESPN; and (5) the biggest cable company, Comcast.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/16/opinion/16SAFI.html

But let's not forget the Gray Lady herself (a Step Sister, perhaps?):
New York Times Group Holdings:

(Newspapers)

The New York Times, The Boston Globe, Houma Courier,
Thibodaux Daily Comet, Palatka Daily News, Opelousas Daily World,
Lexington Dispatch, The Gadsden Times, The Gainesville Sun,
International Herald Tribune, Lake City Reporter, Lakeland Ledger, 
Marco Island Eagle, Fernandina Beach News-Leader, Sebring News-Sun,
Santa Rosa Press Democrat, Sarasota Herald-Tribune,
Spartanburg Herald-Journal, Ocala Star-Banner, Florence Times-Daily,
Hendersonville Times-News, The Tuscaloosa News, Wilmington Morning Star,
The Worcester Telegram & Gazette

(Television Stations)

KFOR Oklahoma City
KFSM Fort Smith
WHNT Huntsville
WHO Des Moines
WNEP Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
WQAD Moline
WREG Memphis
WTKR Norfolk

 ... plus two FM radio stations, part of the Ovation Cable Network,
various electronic information services, and THREE GOLF MAGAZINES!

--Gene

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:48:23 EST
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones


I take it a suggested common denominator in police reports about
traffic accidents would be to note any driver distraction which had a
part in the accident.  I was in a minor accident myself last month
when, on a 2-lane road, an oncoming driver (who later admitted to
reaching down for his gloves) drifted into my lane and hit the left
side of a rented car I was driving.  We did get an officer to the
scene and he got the story about the gloves and the drifting into my
lane, and that other driver was cited.

Some time ago, I noted a news story from Pennsylvania about the
governor of that state asking police to note on their reports (using
"remarks" if no special cell-phone category was available) any
cell-phone use which contributed to an accident.

By the way, the accident I was in was in New York state, the same
state where I had rented that car.  It was posted in the car-rental
office (and seen by me on a sign as I drove into NY state a year
earlier on Interstate 81) that it is illegal in NY state to use a
handheld phone while driving (I don't have it in front of me what
emergency exception might exist).  But I occasionally saw drivers
using handheld phones anyway in NY state.

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbering Arrangments
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:55:45 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:30:56 GMT, Michael D. Sullivan
<nospam@camsul.com> wrote:

> Before the FCC banned technology-specific overlay area codes, it
> authorized New York to use a new overlay code (718?) for cell phones,
> faxes, and internal telco lines for several years.  That code has
> since become a normal overlay code, with wireline phones in it as well
> as the others.

Actually it was area code 917 and for a few years it was a technology
specific area code for use in all five boroughs for cell phones and
pagers.  And yes now all classes of service can be assigned in area
code 917.

> Given the introduction of full number portability between wireline and
> wireless phones (with some exceptions, probably temporary), the genie
> is out of the bottle; it won't be possible to have an area code that
> is wireless-only or wireline-only.

It's not necessarily that.  It has just been decided that the NANP
will have area code specific mobile service.  Even in plans for the
expansion of the NANP there's no mention of having mobile only "area
codes" which would mean the possibility of caller pays mobile service
as is the case in Europe and Asia.

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From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Blogs (web logs): What am I Not Getting?
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 02:32:12 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


Pat posted his blog URL the other day:
http://patricktownson-live.us.tf.  Whenever I see a blog, I ask one
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If I shared what was running through my mind, I'd probably have a
nice, well-padded room on the top floor of the Austin State Hospital.

I'm just curious why people blog.  Are there any, for the lack of a
better term, practical blogs out there?

I'm not criticizing blogging, I'm just trying to understand it better.


John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

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    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Tony P.)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Chris Kantarjiev)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (email@crazyhat.net)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Joey Lindstrom)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (McWebber)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Kyler Laird)
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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Organization: ATCC
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:40:16 GMT


In article <telecom23.79.3@telecom-digest.org>, Kyler@news.Lairds.org 
says:

> Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com> writes:

>> The end of the story changed topics: Qwest announced they would begin
>> to offer DSL service on a line that doesn't have regular phone
>> service:

>> "Also Monday, Notebaert said Qwest will be launching later this month
>> a separate DSL service, which he dubbed --'naked DSL.' Before,
>> customers had to subscribe to Qwest's telephone service to get DSL.

> Qwest is confused.  It can't be done.  J. Michael Healy
> <JMHealy@NO.SPAM.bellsouth.net> explained the technical details long
> ago.

>  http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vwrn2.866%24mv6.1345865%40news3.mia&output=gplain

> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
> company in the country.

Not true. For example -- I have DSL on my line and I tried an experiment. 
I disconnect CO battery from my line and the DSL connection was fully 
functional without it. 

If you're on a DMS-100 and in Verizon New England territory dial 980 and 
flash the hook then hang up. That kills CO battery for 2 minutes. 

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Kyler, I think you are confused,
> not Qworst. You don't have to have dialtone on a line, just battery.

Not even battery. See above. 

I think the DSLAM provides the voltage necessary. 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:24:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Kantarjiev <cak@dimebank.com>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"


> Qwest is confused.  It can't be done. 

Oh please. I have a pair dedicated to DSL, no dial tone, right now. 
I've had it for years. 

"A line for free"? Hardly. I pay handsomely for the privilege of
using that copper pair.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:51:52 -0700
From: <email@crazyhat.net>


In message <<telecom23.79.3@telecom-digest.org>> Kyler Laird
<Kyler@news.Lairds.org> did ramble:

> Qwest is confused.  It can't be done.  J. Michael Healy
> <JMHealy@NO.SPAM.bellsouth.net> explained the technical details long
> ago.

>  http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vwrn2.866%24mv6.1345865%40news3.mia&output=gplain

> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
> company in the country.

A swing and a miss.  The line would be connected to the C.O., and the
telco would still bill somebody (ISP, end user, whatever) for that
pair.

There is no reason a dialtone, phone number, or even power would need
to be on the line (although if you want ADSL, you'd probably need
regulated power.)

                      ============

A well-dressed man walks into a bar and asks a woman to sleep
with him for $1M. The woman is excited and she gives immediate
consent: "Of course I'll sleep with you!". 
Then the man asks, "will you sleep with me for $5?". The woman
indignantly replies, "Of course not! What do you think I am?".
The man replies, "We've already established what you are; now
we're merely haggling over the price."

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:56:20 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"


Wednesday, February 18, 2004, 10:25:16 PM, Kyler Laird wrote:

> Qwest is confused.  It can't be done.  J. Michael Healy
> <JMHealy@NO.SPAM.bellsouth.net> explained the technical details
> long ago.

  http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vwrn2.866%24mv6.1345865%40news3.mia&output=gplain

> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
> company in the country.


> --kyler

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Kyler, I think you are confused,
> not Qworst. You don't have to have dialtone on a line, just battery.
> When I had my recorded message service running back in the 1970's
> with several racks of the old intercept style machines from Illinois
> Bell, the lines (25 or so of them) were *one way inbound*
> only. There was no dial tone provided, but you could hear sidetone,
> which is to say when you blew a bit of air into the mouthpiece, you
> heard it out your earpiece. If a phone is totally 'dead' you won't
> get that. I've seen other telephones similar, used as manual
> intercoms. And Bell *does* get money for those arrangements; they
> give nothing for free. I am sure what they do is provide a circuit
> with no dial tone, tie it up across the central office to the
> location where the ISP-like DSL office is located. They assign it a
> non-dialable circuit number for billing purposes so that no one can
> call into it either.  PAT]

As rare as it is for me to agree with our esteemed moderator :-), I
must concur.  When I got DSL service from Cadvision, a non-telco
provider, they used a separate, otherwise-unused line pair.  Indeed,
my existing phone line was provided by Sprint Canada, a CLEC, but even
if I'd had an ILEC line, Cadvision's setup in that area was to use a
separate wire pair which was used ONLY for ADSL.  Later, when I moved
to a different area, they had different arrangements, and I had to
have Telus (ILEC) dialtone on the line.  But this requirement was
imposed upon them by Telus, not by any technical requirements.
Indeed, the CRTC (government agency) recently told Telus and all other
ILEC's to stuff that idea - they *MUST* now allow DSL over "bare"
lines or lines being used by CLEC's.  As soon as my current ISP
(Nucleus - Cadvision was swallowed up by Telus, but that's another
horror story) tells me they're prepared to do this (provision my
existing DSL over a CLEC line), I'm giving Telus the heave-ho.  Again.


Joey Lindstrom

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From: McWebber <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:55:59 -0500


Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> wrote in message
news:telecom23.79.3@telecom-digest.org:

> Qwest is confused.  It can't be done.  J. Michael Healy
> <JMHealy@NO.SPAM.bellsouth.net> explained the technical details long
> ago.

  http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vwrn2.866%24mv6.1345865%40news3.mia&output=gplain

> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
> company in the country.

> --kyler

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Kyler, I think you are confused,
> not Qworst.

They can do whatever they want with the copper coming into the CO.


McWebber

"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

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Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
From: Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org>
Organization: Insight Broadband
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:12:00 GMT


Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> writes:

>  http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vwrn2.866%24mv6.1345865%40news3.mia&output=gplain

> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
> company in the country.

Ouch!  What happened to the spacing here?!  I just verified the sent
message and it had this paragraph idented the same as the URL.  The
resulting indentation might lead someone with no sense of sarcasm who
fails to look at the URL to think that *I* said/thought such a thing.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Kyler, I think you are confused,

 ... and there's the verification.


--kyler

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:53:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Barry Margolin wrote:

> In article <telecom23.78.12@telecom-digest.org>, Geoffrey Welsh
> <reply@newsgroup.please> wrote:

>> That said, many readers here will recall that RTM's internet worm
>> (does anyone have an authoritative pice to say whether it was the
>> first or not?)  ran on UNIX and exploited Sendmail vulnerabilities;
>> IIRC, Microsoft did not have an internet-capable platform at the time.

> Times were different.  That happened before the Internet was opened up
> to anyone willing to pay $10/month for access.  Those of us who were
> on the Internet were a relatively benign community, and we mostly
> trusted each other.  Few organizations bothered with firewalls at the
> time (if you did want one, you had to construct it yourself -- there
> weren't any off-the-shelf products yet).  The sendmail vulnerability
> was quite blatant: you connected to the SMTP port and typed something
> like "DBUG", and you could then send arbitrary commands that would be
> executed by the root-owned server process.  It was like a small town
> where everyone feels safe leaving their doors unlocked.

Yes, times were very different, Barry.  I just happened to be working
as a consultant for a company making proposals on government military
contracts then, using Unix servers.  I had just finished porting
TCP/IP to their SMP box and had just started on a design for providing
"Orange Book" security when the Morris worm hit.

As I recall, it wasn't the "DBUG" command that did it, it was a buffer
overflow (does that sound familiar, don't we ever learn?) that caused
a portion of memory to be overwritten with a very carefully crafted
piece of machine code which then went and fetched the rest of the
worm.  (My memory could be faulty on this last variation.)  Because
this was binary code, it would only work on specific one specific Unix
variant which was most prevalent at the time, 4.3 BSD I think.  (Does
this also sound familiar?  Pick the most prevalent OS to go out
after?)

The worm itself did tricks to prevent decompilation (dis-assembly)
which most hackers today would not even think of.  (I won't mention
them so as not to give any hackers out there ideas.)

It was Gene Spafford of Purdue who was instrumental in finding out
what it did and how it did it, although I presume many others were
also involved.

Oddly enough, or maybe not oddly, the Morris worm did no damage that I
can recall, other than to spawn clones of itself, tie up bandwidth on
the net and eat up CPU cycles on the infected machines.  If only such
were the case today.

As you said Barry, the internet was a very trusting community in those
days, and the Morris worm should have been a wake-up call to us all.

> But the landscape has changed since then.  The commercialization of
> the Internet has opened it up to all segments of the community; we're
> living in an inner city where there are lots of dangerous people we
> need to watch out for.

> Microsoft had the opportunity to learn from our early experiences, but
> did they really take advantage of it?  It seems not, since allowing
> the mail reader to execute active code in messages is not much
> different from the sendmail vulnerability that we plugged 15 years
> ago.  To extend my analogy, Windows seems like a suburbanite driving
> into a ghetto and leaving his sports car unlocked and unattended; we
> shouldn't be surprised if it gets stripped or taken for a joy-ride.

> Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I had forgotten all about that Morris
Worm thing until it was brought up here. I do remember I was speaking
on the phone at that moment to jsol when he told me he could not talk
anymore at that time, he and others were trying to stop the Morris Worm
before it did any further damage. Some others at MIT at the time were
also quite concerned about it, as was spaff. The internet was quite a
different place back then.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: William Robison <william-robison@uiowa.com>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: The University of Iowa, Department of Physics and Astronomy
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:40:21 GMT


Much text deleted for clarity

   [Authors Note:  Well, I finally got tired (pissed actually)
    at running on Windows, it simply crashes too much, so I
    switched from Netscape 4.x on Windows to Netscape 7.x on
    Solaris.  Much faster, cut & paste works right (it's a UNIX
    thing)]

Geoffrey Welsh wrote:

> William Robison wrote:

>> Are we all asking the wrong question about virus software?

>> Why do we all keep using IE and Outlook?  (kinda like hitting your
>> thumb with a hammer, over and over).

> That's like asking why we use the tires that come with our cars when
> there are so many better ones available.  They're there and they work.
> Even if the replacements were free, not everyone is going to be aware
> of the advantages of the alternatives and not everyone who is aware is
> going to choose to invest the time and effort.

   But the OEM tires look like they came from the scrap yard, off of a
15 year old car with 125,000 miles on it (2nds. set of tires).  And
when you take it to the shop to get the hole patched (the day after
you bought it) the mechanic tells you about the other dozen patches
already applied to the tire.  (If any car manufacturer casually
disregarded something as simple as a taillamp that failed within a few
weeks on every car sold, they wouldn't be in business for long)

>> How many times do we have to be explotied before we realize
>> there has to be a better way (and there are, certainly, many
>> alternatives to IE/Outlook).

> Users have developed a comfort level with Microsoft OSes and
> applications; they are what everyone supports and talks.  Even if a
> user is aware that they have been compromised (it's amazing how many
> computer users cannot grasp the simplest principles of operation, let
> alone notice when their computer is misbehaving) and they're aware of
> the existence of alternatives, they may not feel comfortable wandering
> away from the familiar.

> The fact that Microsoft seems to be implying that their patch process
> is a good enough solution doesn't help.

   I'm awed at how most people view their machines; as black boxes.

   I'm also amazed at how poor documentation is for most consumer
computer hardware/software.  How could you expect anyone to develop
even a basic level of comprehension given to almost total lack of
information that comes with a PC these days (and if you start to say
on-line documentation, you simply don't get it!).

   I often fall back into memories of "how it was" back in
"the good old days" (With out Univac 418's, processor schematics
were supplied as part of the package, Source code to the operating
system, enough documentation to generate the OS in a custom
configuration (i.e. kernel make in the Unix world), documentation
of the programming interface to the OS.

   Granted everything is much more complicated/powerful/LARGE these
days.

> That said, many readers here will recall that RTM's internet worm
> (does anyone have an authoritative pice to say whether it was the
> first or not?)  ran on UNIX and exploited Sendmail vulnerabilities;
> IIRC, Microsoft did not have an internet-capable platform at the time.

   I remember a worm that propogated over the DECnet networks prior to
the RTM worm.  The network was worldwide, with many thousands of
nodes.  DECnet, at that time, came configured is such a way to allow a
remote system to save a program file (i.e. executable or a DCL script)
on the local machine and then cause it to be executed.  It couldn't
access things at the level we see on todays PC's, but keep in mind
that the processors of that day were probably equivalent to a 15Mhz
Pentium (fifteen Megahertz, not 150), so using CPU cycles, even if you
couldn't damage the file system, was a very noticeable impact (to many
people, as it was a shared system).

   The fix was simple, was applied within a day or two everywhere, and
with the next release of VMS/DECnet, the vulnerability was disabled by
default (gee, what a novel idea!).

   Who was it that said: "We who fail to observe history are doomed to
repeat it".  (or is that: "We who fail to observe history are doomed
to repeat it, over and over, and over and over, and...")

Regards to all,

-Willy

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:18:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
From: David B. Horvath, CCP <address withheld at reader's request>
Reply-To: newsgroup


PAT - please, no email address, too much SPAM. Name is just fine!

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:56:01 -0800, none@none.com wrote:

> One of the things that has me concerned and hope others 
> is what was listed in the article. That cable modem traffic 
> is pinged or actually "Routed" off other cable modems, so that 
> traffic can be handled more effectively as a huge LAN

> My questions is:

> 1) Where is the security for traffic on this network?

Through obscurity, the most common kind (unfortunately)!  There is a
standard DOCIS that is supposed to only allow data through to your PC
that is addressed to your modem (supposed to prevent "sniffing").

> 2) Why has the cable modem services industry not taken a 
>    lead to encrypt or block access of traffic not deemed 
>    for a particular router off-limits, so that it can be 
>    shared with another user???

Cable modem services are very much like Ethernet -- everyone on the 
same segment has all the data reaching the port on the back of their 
equipment (the modem in this case). It is up to that equipment to 
ignore all data not addressed to it.

In theory, the company's router will prevent me from seeing your data 
if we are on different segments of the network. But if we are neighbors 
being fed off the same set of wires, the data is coming into my house.

The big difference between the cable network and the phone network is 
that direct addressibility. With the phone, there is a set of wires 
that run from the phone company equipment to your house and only your 
house (yes, I know they have SLC's, but your signal is pulled off at 
that point and sent down wires only to your house). With cable, there 
is one wire that supplies a segment (one or more city blocks) and a 
splitter on the pole or pedestal that pulls the signal for your house. 
They can apply electrical signal filters at that point to prevent you 
from seeing HBO if you don't pay for it. In some cases filters allow 
you to see the signal.

But those filters are stupid -- they know nothing about MAC or IP 
addresses.  The data flows into each house and it is up to your 
equipment to determine what data should be seen by you.  

The older cable modems (and Ethernet cards on a regular network) can be 
placed in "promiscuous mode" where all data would be transfered to the 
CPU rather than only those packets addressed to the specific MAC 
address.

Encryption is expensive, slows down the process, and makes it harder 
for the technicians to investigate problems -- that's why the companies 
don't implement it.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Although I do not know the 
> particulars of this, I do know that Mr. Mike Flood, the general 
> manager of Cable One, here in Independence told me 'that was all 
> taken care of recently' when I asked him 'what prevents everyone 
> on the cable from showing up in my Network Neighborhood, and the 
> other way around.' I am sorry to say I did not understand his 
> sort of technical explanation. Maybe some of you could explain it 
> to me in simple words. 

It could be that Cable One went to DOCIS standard modems that prevent 
promiscuous mode. I don't know if there are any cable modems out there 
smart enough to filter based on network port.

- David

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:25:58 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
 

Wednesday, February 18, 2004, 11:16:18 PM, editor wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Although I do not know the
> particulars of this, I do know that Mr. Mike Flood, the general
> manager of Cable One, here in Independence told me 'that was all
> taken care of recently' when I asked him 'what prevents everyone on
> the cable from showing up in my Network Neighborhood, and the other
> way around.' I am sorry to say I did not understand his sort of
> technical explanation. Maybe some of you could explain it to me in
> simple words. Its not a problem with DSL, since everyone goes to the
> central office on their own pair.  But with a cable strung around,
> what *does* prevent us from being each other's Neighbor for spy
> purposes, etc.  Anyone?  PAT]

Actually Pat, if you don't have any decent protection, then anybody in
the world can browse your computer, simply by firing up Windows
Explorer and typing in:

\\1.2.3.4

(where 1.2.3.4 is your IP address)

Without security, I'll get access to any shares you've got set up on
that PC.

Now, in your case, you've got two good, solid lines of defense.  The
first is your Linksys box, which will laugh off any such request from
the outside world (unless you specifically program it to allow this
sort of thing).  The second is your ZoneAlarm installation, which
again will stop any such request in its tracks.

Point is, it doesn't matter whether you're on cable or DSL -- this will
work, if the protections aren't in place.  The only difference with
cable (and as you've noted, most cable operators have fixed this) is
that your unprotected system might BROADCAST what it's sharing to your
neighbours, who otherwise would not have known you were even there.
They open up Network Neighborhood one day and say "hey, what's this
PATTOWNSON workgroup? where'd that come from?" -- they didn't go
looking for you, as in my above example, your information came to
them, unbidden.  As you say, that just wasn't likely to happen with
DSL but even there, depending on the layout and how the ISP's routers
are configured, it's not out of the question that it COULD happen with
DSL.

As always, practice safe computing.  Wear a condom (ZoneAlarm), keep
your car doors locked (Linksys router/firewall), and be careful which
neighbourhoods you drive around in.  Above all, never take candy from
strangers (or open unsolicited file attachments).



Joey Lindstrom

------------------------------

From: L. Hao <lhaoNOSPAM@comcast.net>
Subject: Advice Needed For Modem Disconnecting Problem
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:23:00 GMT


Hi,

I am in the middle of integrating a third party vendor's modem server
into our product, which functions as a modem server. The server
modem's codec software runs in a TI C5409 DSP. And the server runs
NT4.0.

We are experiencing disconnecting problems. After we connect a USR
V.90 client modem to the server modem and start downloading files from
internet to the client machine, we would get disconnect shortly after
the starting of the downloading.

And we found the reason for the disconnect was in the server side. And
it was due to a DTR CLEAR IOCTL call issued from user mode level to
the modem driver. The driver then turns around and disconnect the
server modem in the DSP.

Can anyone with experience let me know how to approach this problem?
Not an expert in the modem arena, I am at lost in tracing down this
DTR CLR. What I want to do is to find out why the DTR CLEAR is issued
and who issues it. I have a hunch that it was triggered by something
that the modem sent, but our vendor insisted that they are doing
everything right. So please help me!

Thanks in advance.

Lee

------------------------------

From: William Robison <william-robison@uiowa.com>
Subject: Re: Experts Warn of Microsoft 'Monoculture'
Organization: The University of Iowa, Department of Physics and Astronomy
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:43:35 GMT


Geoffrey Welsh wrote:

> email@crazyhat.net wrote:

>> Yeah, we'd all get a $5 coupon for our next purchase of a Microsoft
>> service pack (which they'd start charging for to cover the cost of the
>> lawsuit)

> Many times I've seen companies charge for firmware upgrades that
> customers want because of new features, but give the firmware upgrades
> away free if they were needed to fix a bug.  I'd love to see a law
> that requires software publishers to provide customers with a freee
> upgrade if that's what's required to fix a serious bug or plug a
> vulnerability.

> It would definitely revolutionize the software industry - or at least
> split it into two groups that even executives could tell apart: those
> who stand by their products and those who are required to state on the
> package and in all advertising and catalog listings that their product
> should not be relied upon.

> It scares the crap out of me the way that big companies put big bucks
> on the line using off the shelf software with histories of big bugs
> and no one -- CIO, CFO, CEO, whoever -- ever stops to ask, "what if that
> software screwed up and the aftermath cost us a hundred million
> dollars?"


Geoff:

   Can I add my "over and over, and over and over..." at the end of that?
:-)

-Willy

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:48:55 -0600


Carl Moore <cmoore@arl.army.mil> wrote:

> earlier on Interstate 81) that it is illegal in NY state to use a
> handheld phone while driving (I don't have it in front of me what
> emergency exception might exist).  But I occasionally saw drivers
> using handheld phones anyway in NY state.

It's illegal to use a cell phone without handsfree in NYS, if I recall
correctly. But only without a handsfree - with handsfree it's still
legal.

JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Re: Long Distance Wrong Numbers From Everywhere
Date: 19 Feb 2004 09:43:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.80.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> Patrick basically got it right, but, for those who may not now how 800
> service works:

> There is conceptually "no such thing" as an 800 number (or 888, 877,
> 866).  Switches are programmed to make a "dip" into a network database
> when they see these prefixes.

> In the network database is a "routing table" which matches on dialed
> number, originating NPA-NXX, and time of day, among other things, to
> look up the actual "POTS" line to which to route the call.  No part of
> the POTS number need match any digits of the 800 number.

> Thus, dialing 866-222-3333 from 973 may get you Joe's Pizza in Madison
> NJ while dialing the same number from 937 (Southern Ohio) may get you
> Horst's Hofbrau Haus in Cincinatti.

> Since David did get the calls from all over the country, this is not
> the case and it is probably a "global" routing, meaning route to the
> same number whatever the originating NPA.

> The other variation is time of day, which can be programmed in 15
> minutes intervals.  For example, between 8 AM and 11 AM Eastern Time,
> route all calls to a call center in the eastern time zone.  11 AM to 1
> PM, route them 50% each to numbers in the eastern and central
> time-zones, etc., etc.  Large companies with multiple "call-centers"
> use this feature.

> If these calls are happening at a particular time of day, then only a
> portion of the routing table is messed up.

> Nick L.

I had the same issue, but in reverse in the late 90's. While out of
town, I called my girlfriend at an 800 number ported to the home
number late one evening. Quite a surprise when I woke up a guy in New
York! A calling card call to the home number reached the right
destination.

The next day I tried calling the 800 number from a COCOT; same thing. I
explained who I was and asked if they had an 800 number. Same RESPORG
and everything.

I was told there was a problem with the switch, and since I never saw
a billing statement that was way out of line, I let it go at that.

At the time I was told there was a problem with the switch in NYC. 

Eric Friedebach
/Mortgage your Viagra!/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am reminded of the time I became the
switchboard/credit/customer service/complaint department for Sears
Roebuck for a day against my will.

It was 1975, Illinois Bell was busy converting central offices to ESS
throughout Chicago. The downtown area had been cut over a year
earlier; the downtown area also had the oldest, most crappy c.o.'s at
the time.  I went into my office one day and the phone was ringing. At
the time I had the phone number 312-WEbster-9-4600, in other words
939-4600. Two blocks away was the State Street (downtown) Sears
store. Their switch- board number was WABash 2-4600, in other words
922-4600. The difference between me and Sears was they had a
five-position cord board with as many operators which rocked around
the clock quite literally; they had five switchboard operators all day
and evening; a couple operators overnight for the credit office stuff.
Sears had their entire Chicago Region credit office on the fifth floor
of that particular store. I on the other hand had a single line
instrument.

The phone was ringing, one call after another, and another, and
another, and another, never stopping ringing; hang up and it would
*instantly* ring again, always with calls for Sears, one department or
another, sometimes hardware, sometimes clothes, sometimes credit, you
name it. It appeared Illinois Bell had taken a large funnel with a big
end and a little tiny spout on the other end and poured in all the
calls for Sears, the spout dumping on my end. Sears, of course, never
even missed the calls at all. After talking briefly to a few of the
callers, I discovered they were all in the Chicago-Beverley phone
exchange, a far southwest side exchange around 95th and Western Avenue
with several prefixes, including BEverley 235 and several others wired
out of that central office. By just hanging up the phone a couple
times after it had rang, and tapping the hook quickly I was able to
regain control of my phone, which would otherwise ring (with still
another call for Sears if I had stayed on hook for more than maybe
five or ten seconds. 

When I was able to get through to 611 (the old repair service number)
I was fortunate enough to reach this wise old man working there who
was able to identify the problem immediatly after I described it.
It seems Beverley had been 'cut' the night before to ESS, and "someone
got their translations and their tables incorrect," he explained to
me. "I will call over there right now and tell them to look at it and
fix it.  Its not just you with 4600 who is getting hassled, but 
whoever has 939-4321 is getting hassled with a million calls for 
Western Union on 922-4321, and imagine whoever has 939-9500, 
'across from the Grand Central train station on 922-9500.'
Give me about five or ten minutes to get those calls stopped."

About ten minutes later, as he promised, my phone quit ringing with
calls for Sears. He called back in maybe fifteen minutes and told me
that "somehow they got 922 mixed up with 939".  In those days of no
area code/prefix crunch and wide open spaces between each category,
apparently 939 was 'next in line' after 922 in Chicago. He was quite
apologetic about it and I thanked him courteously for correcting it.
Those were the days when Illinois Bell/Ameritech/Southwestern Bell/
SBC employees *actually cared* about the public they served, and
automatically assumed a call from a subscriber was the purpose of
their work and not an interupption to it.  They did not treat the
public like 'crank callers and complainers' like they do now many
times.  PAT]

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Plot to Stop Net Telephone (VoIP) Revolution (Charles G Gray)
    Reliable, Quality Int'l LD Calling Card? (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
    Home Intercom Phone System With Cordless Phone? (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
    Symbol Added to Morse Code (Joe Wineburgh)
    Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones (Rob)
    Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones (D Aspinwall)
    Re: Reliable Means of Determining LEC For Given Phone Number (Tony P.)
    Re: Reliable Means of Determining LEC For Given Phone Number (Greenberg)
    Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax (Tony P.)
    Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax (sidd@situ.com)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Phil Earnhardt)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Barry Margolin)
    Nitsuko/NEC 704i and Fax Servers (Forrest Nelson)
    Money, Money, was Re: Internet Phones, 911 Could Clash (Danny Burstein)
    Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash (DevilsPGD)
    Now Preening on the Coffee Table: The TiVo Remote Control (M Solomon)
    Re: Blogs (Web Logs): What am I Not Getting? (Barry Margolin)
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Subject: Adam Thierer on the Plot to Stop Net Telephone (VoIP) Revolution
From: Charles G Gray <graycg@okstate.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:56:31 -0600


Pat, I'm sure your readers will find the attached item interesting.

Regards,

Charles G. Gray
Senior Lecturer, Telecommunications
Oklahoma State University - Tulsa
(918)594-8433

 Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
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 02/18/2004 11:14 PM

 To: declan@well.com
 Subject: Cato TechKnowledge: The Plan to Stop the VoIP Revolution
 Reply-To: athierer@cato.org
 From: Adam Thierer <athierer@cato.org>
 Message-Id: <20040210161250.23DCC34690@mail6.uptilt.com>
 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:12:50 -0800 (PST)

The Plot to Stop the Internet Telephone Revolution

Issue #73
February 10, 2004

by Adam Thierer and Wayne Crews

Much has been written over the past few months about the revolutionary
potential of Internet telephony, or voice over Internet protocol
(VoIP) service. VoIP would let consumers make phone calls through an
Internet connection, largely bypassing traditional circuit-switched
wireline telephone networks. In time, some think it might come to
completely replace older phone networks.

In just a few short years, VoIP has gone from wishful thinking to
marketplace reality as numerous companies now plan to deploy such
services.  This has also led many industry watchers to speak of VoIP
as a veritable deregulatory deus ex machina that potentially offers a
sudden and unexpected way to escape from the past century's regulatory
morass.

"Not so fast!" say opponents. That same potential for revolutionary
change that excites some, frightens many others. This is an old story,
of course.

New, "disruptive technologies" are often viewed with suspicion, or
even outright hostility, by those who fear they have something to lose
by a change in the status quo. But technological revolutions are the
healthiest part of a capitalist economy. In a world where "only the
paranoid survive," it's good that organizations are forced to stay on
their toes, constantly concerned about the impact of new technologies
on the old ways of doing business. That's what drives the
Schumpeterian "creative destruction" that makes our economy so
innovative and prosperous.

Often, however, when the fears over technological change reach a fever
pitch, certain interests substitute a political response for a market
response. For many, adjusting or abandoning an old business model is
just not an option they are willing to consider. Instead, they lobby
legislators or regulators for protection from the new competitors or
technologies.  Steamboat operators feared the rise of railroads;
butter makers petitioned against margarine as a substitute; television
broadcasters sought to delay competition from cable providers; and
some small retailers still fight to keep large chain stores like
Wal-Mart out of local communities.

It should come as no surprise, therefore, that this process is playing
itself out today in the debate over Internet phone calls. The issue at
hand involves the regulatory classification or treatment of Internet
telephone service. VoIP is something new; it does not fit neatly into
the Byzantine regulatory taxonomy the FCC has established for older
communications services. Its opponents want to open the door for
regulation of this new service by needlessly subjecting it to the full
force of traditional telecom regulations.

In what would be viewed by most people as a silly squabble over
semantics, volumes of paper are currently being filed at the FCC over
the question of whether VoIP should be classified as a
"telecommunications service" or something else, such as an
"information service." Incredibly, in an era in which we should be
mapping out the abolition of the FCC altogether, such definitions make
a world of difference to the development of a new service.

Because of the haphazard manner in which communications law has
developed over the past 70 years, there exist distinct regulatory
paradigms for telecom, cable, broadcasting, and wireless
service. Internet-based applications do not fit into any of these
categories, especially since providers in each of those old sectors
can provide online services using different technological platforms or
delivery mechanisms. But if VoIP comes to be regulated under one of
these archaic classification schemes, especially the "telecom
services" paradigm, it could be strangled while still in the cradle by
a bewildering batch of federal and state regulations.

Consequently, in the filings and public statements made by the various
interest groups that have lined up to oppose a regulation-free VoIP
environment, several recurring themes have been cited to justify its
classification as a "telecom service": The potential loss of state and
local telecom taxes; the need to collect universal service fees and
subsidies; access for the disabled; public safety requirements such as
"E911;" and the need for various other "consumer protections." For
example, citing such concerns, a number of state regulators have
raised a big stink about VoIP, but really they're just worried about
losing some of their regulatory turf and power.

Of much greater concern is the recent intervention of the law
enforcement community, led by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the
Department of Justice, and the Drug Enforcement Administration, which
have jointly asked the FCC to assure that wiretap and monitoring
capabilities easily apply to the new technology. Apparently the law
enforcement agencies oppose telecommunications deregulation because it
means they won't be able to spy on us quite as easily. As Jim Harper,
founder of Privacilla.org, put it, "The law enforcement cart is coming
before the civil society horse. The communications infrastructure is
being created with eavesdropping in mind before there is any evidence
of [the need for] it, plus with VoIP it won't work anyway as the
criminals will use offshore VoIP or open source VoIP, rather than
 ... any of the major carriers." A wiretap-ready Internet that enables
the sort of online surveillance that the FBI, DOJ, and DEA desire will
be a costly proposition, requiring expensive equipment upgrades and
ongoing regulation of this dynamic sector. Moreover, the scheme would
likely entail heavy FCC involvement in the regulation of Internet
telephony in the future.

In one sense, what all these diverse parties, from the old hidebound
state regulators to the FBI, are really saying is that unless VoIP
providers can learn to "play the game" exactly the same way old
telecom companies did, they should not, effectively, be allowed to
provide service at all. Stated differently, this new technology must
be pigeonholed into old regulatory classification schemes and
regulatory paradigms of the past; it must not be allowed to breathe
the free air of an unregulated communications marketplace.

After all, if VoIP was allowed to develop in a relatively free,
unregulated environment, just think of the horrors that might befall
our society! We might make cheap phone calls or something.

Adam Thierer (athierer@cato.org) is director of telecommunications
studies and Wayne Crews (wcrews@cato.org) is the director of
technology studies at the Cato Institute in Washington, D.C. at the
Cato Institute in Washington, D.C. (www.cato.org/tech). They are the
authors of What's Yours Is Mine: Open Access and the Rise of
Infrastructure Socialism. To subscribe, or see

For a list of all previous TechKnowledge articles, visit
http://www.cato.org/tech/tk-index.html.  [][]Cato Institute

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:12:53 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Reliable, Quality Int'l LD Calling Card?
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


I'm looking for a quality int'l LD calling card.  I'm currently using
Accudial, which is very convenient and cheap, but overseas calls
almost always have a long delay, making real conversation impossible.

Can someone recommend a quality LD calling card, one that will give me
the good connections I've becomed used to in the past few years?

Many thanks.

-Joel

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:15:15 GMT 
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: home intercom phone system with cordless phone?
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


In light of the dicussion about a home phone system (2-4 lines, a
half-dozen extensions, perhaps) that offers intercom connections
between any two phones, I'm wondering:

Is there such a system that will work with a cordless phone?  The idea
is that the cordless phone could be one of the stations.

Thanks.

-Joel

------------------------------

From: Joe Wineburgh <Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com>
Subject: Symbol Added to Morse Code
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:53:16 -0500


http://www.cjonline.com/stories/021704/pag_morsecode.shtml

The Associated Press

Morse code is entering the 21st century -- or at least the late 20th.
The 160-year-old communication system now has a new character to
denote the "@" symbol used in e-mail addresses.

In December, the International Telecommunications Union, which
oversees the entire frequency spectrum, from amateur radio to
satellites, voted to add the new character.

The new sign, which will be known as a "commat," consists of the
signals for "A" (dot-dash) and "C" (dash-dot-dash-dot), with no space
between them.

The new sign is the first in at least several decades, and possibly
much longer. Among ITU officials and Morse code aficionados, no one
could remember any other addition.

"It's a pretty big deal," said Paul Rinaldo, chief technical officer
for the American Radio Relay League, the national association for
amateur radio operators. "There certainly hasn't been any change since
before World War II."

The change will allow ham radio operators to exchange e-mails more
easily.  That is because -- in an irony of the digital age -- they
often use Morse to initiate conversations over the Internet.

"People trade their e-mail addresses a lot," said Nick Yocanovich, a
Morse code enthusiast who lives in Arnold, Md.

Morse code uses two audible electrical signals -- short "dots" and
slightly longer "dashes" -- to form letters, numbers and punctuation
marks. Created in the 1830s by Samuel F.B. Morse, who invented the
telegraph, the electronic signaling system spread across the world,
and until the past few decades, it was used widely by the public,
industry and government.

"It was the beginning of the Information Age," said Gary Fowlie, Chief
of Media Relations and Public Information for the ITU, which has its
headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland.

When Morse died in 1872, more than 650,000 miles of telegraph wire
circled the globe. By the early 20th century, Morse messages were
being sent wirelessly, via radio.

Perhaps the most famous Morse communication is the international
distress signal S-O-S. It consists of three dots, three dashes, and
three more dots.

But with the proliferation of digital communications technologies such
as cell phones, satellites and the Internet, Morse code has lost its
pre-eminent place in global communications. "There's really no reason
to use it anymore," said Robert Colburn, research coordinator for the
History Center of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics
Engineers.

Today it's largely the province of ham radio operators, including
700,000 in the United States. While not all of them communicate
regularly in Morse, almost all are familiar with it.

Some ham operators wouldn't mind more changes to spice up the
language.  While Morse code has a period, a question mark, and even a
semicolon, it offers no simple way to articulate excitement.

"I was hoping they'd add a character for the exclamation point," said
Yocanovich, who is active in the International Morse Preservation
Society.  "It expresses an emotion that's difficult to get across any
other way."

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: 19 Feb 2004 10:29:51 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.80.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> I take it a suggested common denominator in police reports about
> traffic accidents would be to note any driver distraction which had a
> part in the accident.  I was in a minor accident myself last month
> when, on a 2-lane road, an oncoming driver (who later admitted to
> reaching down for his gloves) drifted into my lane and hit the left
> side of a rented car I was driving.  We did get an officer to the
> scene and he got the story about the gloves and the drifting into my
> lane, and that other driver was cited.

> Some time ago, I noted a news story from Pennsylvania about the
> governor of that state asking police to note on their reports (using
> "remarks" if no special cell-phone category was available) any
> cell-phone use which contributed to an accident.

> By the way, the accident I was in was in New York state, the same
> state where I had rented that car.  It was posted in the car-rental
> office (and seen by me on a sign as I drove into NY state a year
> earlier on Interstate 81) that it is illegal in NY state to use a
> handheld phone while driving (I don't have it in front of me what
> emergency exception might exist).  But I occasionally saw drivers
> using handheld phones anyway in NY state.

Drivers are now banned from using a cellphone while driving, unless
they have an automatic handsfree headset or speaker.  It's an
on-the-spot fine of GBP30, or if the driver chooses to go to court it
can be up to GBP1000 plus court costs.

------------------------------

From: Doug Aspinwall <compdcomtelecom@selkeith.com>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:47:07 -0500
Organization: None whatsoever (just ask my wife)


Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.81.13@telecom-digest.org:

> Carl Moore <cmoore@arl.army.mil> wrote:

>> earlier on Interstate 81) that it is illegal in NY state to use a
>> handheld phone while driving (I don't have it in front of me what
>> emergency exception might exist).  But I occasionally saw drivers
>> using handheld phones anyway in NY state.

> It's illegal to use a cell phone without handsfree in NYS, if I recall
> correctly. But only without a handsfree - with handsfree it's still
> legal.

> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) /sjsobol@JustThe.net
> PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

Check out www.cellular-news.com/car_bans/

New York is currently the only state to ban hand-held cell phones
while driving without using a hands-free device.  Several states have
tried to pass a similar ban for the general public, but they have not
passed.

Several states have bans for bus drivers and/or school bus drivers.

Doug Aspinwall

Near Dover, DE (the only state capital without a commercial airport)

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Could someone please tell me in a 
convincing way what is the difference between a motorist who exercises
reasonable caution most of the time but talks on a cell phone and a 
police officer chasing someone at 100 miles per hour on a busy highway
while talking into a microphone on a police radio?  Both of them are
'distracted' are they not?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Reliable Means of Determining LEC For Given Phone Number?
Organization: ATCC
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:43:19 GMT


In article <telecom23.79.9@telecom-digest.org>, no@spam.com says:

> Does anyone know of a reliable means of determining the servicing
> LEC for a given phone number?

> I'm trying to find a reliable means of determining what is the
> servicing LEC for any given phone number. Right now this is limited to
> only needing to work for CA. USA phone numbers. Using the various
> resources (LERG, and other similar databases) I can get down to what
> the operating Company is for a given NPA/NXX but with Thousand Number
> (block) Pooling, and porting of numbers, there are over lapping
> NPA/NXXs for various providers, and while the operating company for a
> given NPA/NXX maybe SBC (Pacific Bell) the line may in fact be
> serviced by Verizon (GTE).

> So far I'm at a loss as to how to reliably perform, what in an ideal
> world, would be a simple search.

http://www.telcodata.us/telco.html

For example, keying in my NPA/NXX (401/621) if I click on the switch 
info link I get (Even if the zip code is wrong, it should be 02903 and 
the post office that serves 02903 is right in back of the CO.):

Number of results: 51
Information on PRVDRIWADS2:
State: RI 
English Name:  
CLLI: PRVDRIWADS2 
Switch Type: Northern Telecom DMS100 (Digital) Host 
Host CLLI (if remote):  
Status: () 
LATA: NO LATA KNOWN (999) 
Exchanges Served: 51 
Building CLLI: PRVDRIWA (See DSLReports information on this wirecenter) 
Street Address: 234 WASHINGTON ST
PROVIDENCE, RI 2905 
Tandem:  
SS7 Point Code:  
List of served exchanges: 401-222 401-224 401-243 401-272 401-273 401-
274 401-276 401-277 401-278 401-282 401-290 401-331 401-332 401-350 401-
351 401-370 401-421 401-444 401-452 401-453 401-454 401-455 401-456 401-
457 401-458 401-459 401-460 401-478 401-482 401-521 401-525 401-528 401-
544 401-553 401-563 401-564 401-572 401-574 401-575 401-588 401-598 401-
621 401-751 401-752 401-776 401-831 401-861 401-863 401-865 401-867 401-
868 
 
List of served ratecenters: PROVIDENCE,RI	
 
List of carriers on switch: VERIZON NEW ENGLAND INC. (9102)	WEBLINK 
WIRELESS, INC. (6385)	
 
List of other switches in building: PRVDRIWADS2 PRVDRIWAHAA PRVDRIWADS1 
PRVDRIWAXSY prvdriwax1y PRVDRIWAX7Y PRVDRIWA06T PRVDRIWAOMD PRVDRIWAXWY 
PRVDRIWADS4 
 
------------------------------

From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Reliable Means of Determining LEC For Given Phone Number?
Date: 19 Feb 2004 16:48:36 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.79.9@telecom-digest.org>, JL  <no@spam.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a reliable means of determining the servicing
> LEC for a given phone number?

> I'm trying to find a reliable means of determining what is the
> servicing LEC for any given phone number. Right now this is limited to
> only needing to work for CA. USA phone numbers. Using the various
> resources (LERG, and other similar databases) I can get down to what
> the operating Company is for a given NPA/NXX but with Thousand Number
> (block) Pooling, and porting of numbers, there are over lapping
> NPA/NXXs for various providers, and while the operating company for a
> given NPA/NXX maybe SBC (Pacific Bell) the line may in fact be
> serviced by Verizon (GTE).

Take a look at:  http://www.telcodata.us/telco.html


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N6LRT  Marietta, GA, USA   Play: richgr atsign panix.com    + 1 770 321 6507
Eastern time zone.  I speak for myself & my dogs only.     VM'er since CP-67
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Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/  Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
Organization: ATCC
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:08:33 GMT


In article <telecom23.80.4@telecom-digest.org>, none@none.com says:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:21:07 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
> wrote:

>> By Kevin Poulsen, SecurityFocus

>> A small and diverse band of hobbyists steeped in the obscure languages
>> of embedded systems has released its own custom firmware for a popular
>> brand of cable modem, along with a technique for loading it -- a
>> development that's already made life easier for uncappers and service
>> squatters, and threatens to topple long-held assumptions about the
>> privacy of cable modem communications.

>> The program, called Sigma, was released in its final version last
>> month, and has reportedly been downloaded 350 to 400 times a day ever
>> since. It's designed to be flashed into the non-volatile memory of
>> certain models of Motorola's Surfboard line, where it runs in parallel
>> with the device's normal functionality. It gives users almost complete
>> control of their cable modem -- a privilege previously reserved for
>> the service provider.

>> The project is the work of a gang of coders called TCNiSO. With about
>> ten active members worldwide, the group is supported by contributions
>> from the uncapping community -- speed-hungry Internet users who rely
>> on TCNiSO's research and free hackware to surmount the bandwidth caps
>> imposed by service providers, usually in violation of their service
>> agreement, if not the law. To them, Sigma is a delight, because it
>> makes it simple to change the modem's configuration file -- the key to
>> uncapping, and, on some systems, to getting free anonymous service
>> using "unregistered" modems. "I've known TCNiSO for two years now and
>> I've done a lot of things with their techniques," wrote a Canadian
>> uncapper in an e-mail interview. "Sigma is the greatest one I've
>> seen."

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7977

> One of the things that has me concerned and hope others is what was
> listed in the article. That cable modem traffic is pinged or actually
> "Routed" off other cable modems, so that traffic can be handled more
> effectively as a huge LAN

> My questions is:

> 1) Where is the security for traffic on this network?
> 2) Why has the cable modem services industry not taken a lead to
>    encrypt or block access of traffic not deemed for a particular router
>    off-limits, so that it can be shared with another user???

1) Baseline Privacy 1.0 -- not exactly the most secure of them. It 
encrypts the TCP/IP stream from the headend to the cable modem. Kind of 
obvious that this group has defeated Baseline 1.0.

2) Because the cable companies are in it for one thing and one thing
only. To earn as much as they possibly can in an environment that
while not a monopoly is closer to an oligopoly.
 
> Jeremy supercommodore@maildotcom

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Although I do not know the particulars 
> of this, I do know that Mr. Mike Flood, the general manager of Cable
> One, here in Independence told me 'that was all taken care of recently'
> when I asked him 'what prevents everyone on the cable from showing up
> in my Network Neighborhood, and the other way around.' I am sorry to
> say I did not understand his sort of technical explanation. Maybe some
> of you could explain it to me in simple words. Its not a problem with
> DSL, since everyone goes to the central office on their own pair. But
> with a cable strung around, what *does* prevent us from being each 
> other's Neighbor for spy purposes, etc.  Anyone?    PAT]

The thing about cable vs. DSL is that the cable coming into your home is 
a shared medium. On the cable side it looks like one big Ethernet LAN 
even using CDMA/CD. 

DSL as you've correctly stated, isn't a shared medium at the subscriber 
side. But at the DSLAM, of course it's shared. 

When I had the @Home service my machines IP address was hijacked by
someone else. Went to use my machine one day and found I couldn't get
on no matter what I did. Diagnostics said everything on my end was
working fine. Called Cox and they figured it out.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
From: sidd@situ.com
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:02:03 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Although I do not know the particulars 
> of this, I do know that Mr. Mike Flood, the general manager of Cable
> One, here in Independence told me 'that was all taken care of recently'
> when I asked him 'what prevents everyone on the cable from showing up
> in my Network Neighborhood, and the other way around.' I am sorry to
> say I did not understand his sort of technical explanation. Maybe some
> of you could explain it to me in simple words. Its not a problem with
> DSL, since everyone goes to the central office on their own pair. But
> with a cable strung around, what *does* prevent us from being each 
> other's Neighbor for spy purposes, etc.  Anyone?    PAT]

They probably block the ports that the Microsoft Network
protocols use.

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: 19 Feb 2004 13:21:26 -0800
Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com]


In article <telecom23.78.2@telecom-digest.org>, Phil Earnhardt says:

> I've been unable to find any details on this service: if the $33
> includes an ISP, if you are really getting "unlimited" services on the
> 1.5Mbps pipe, etc. 

I contacted Qwest customer service today and asked about the service.
The agent knew about the service, but had no details. I asked the
salesman when they would have details. He said that the service will
be available on 3/1/04 but did not know when pricing and service
details would be available.


--phil

------------------------------

From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: 19 Feb 2004 16:34:54 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Nick Landsberg  <hukolau@att.net> wrote:

> As I recall, it wasn't the "DBUG" command that did it, it was a buffer
> overflow (does that sound familiar, don't we ever learn?) that caused
> a portion of memory to be overwritten with a very carefully crafted
> piece of machine code which then went and fetched the rest of the
> worm.  (My memory could be faulty on this last variation.)  Because
> this was binary code, it would only work on specific one specific Unix
> variant which was most prevalent at the time, 4.3 BSD I think.  (Does
> this also sound familiar?  Pick the most prevalent OS to go out
> after?)

As I recall, the Morris worm did different exploits on different
machines.  I know it did take advantage of DBUG when it was available,
but it also did a buffer overrun trick.  I _think_ the buffer overrun
only worked on the vax ... the Morris worm infected both the vax and
Sun-3 machines.

> It was Gene Spafford of Purdue who was instrumental in finding out
> what it did and how it did it, although I presume many others were
> also involved.

At the time, he was Gene Spafford of Georgia Tech.

> As you said Barry, the internet was a very trusting community in those
> days, and the Morris worm should have been a wake-up call to us all.

It was a wake up call to everyone who was on the internet back then.
But remember, those were the days when Microsoft was saying the
internet was irrelevant.

Microsoft has long had real problems playing with others in the same
sandbox, and they persistently, repeatedly, constantly implement
features with no thought whatsoever to security.

I mean, the whole notion of automatically executing a .exe file in a
mail message being read?  What EVER possessed anyone to think that was
a good idea?  We won't even talk about some of the serious design
issues in Microsoft networking.  Most of these problems have been
patched around, but there is only so much patching around you can do
with a fundamentally flawed system.

>> Microsoft had the opportunity to learn from our early experiences, but
>> did they really take advantage of it?  It seems not, since allowing
>> the mail reader to execute active code in messages is not much
>> different from the sendmail vulnerability that we plugged 15 years
>> ago.  To extend my analogy, Windows seems like a suburbanite driving
>> into a ghetto and leaving his sports car unlocked and unattended; we
>> shouldn't be surprised if it gets stripped or taken for a joy-ride.

Microsoft did not learn from the early experiences of internet users,
and in fact they went out of their way to avoid listening to them.
When Microsoft produced an SMTP server that was in violation of
RFC822, Eric Allman talked to the designers about integration issues
and he was told "We're Microsoft.  We don't follow standards, we make
them."  That sort of attitude is precisely why Microsoft is having all
of these problems. 


--scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:05:38 -0500


In article <telecom23.81.7@telecom-digest.org>, Nick Landsberg
<hukolau@att.net> wrote:

> As I recall, it wasn't the "DBUG" command that did it, it was a buffer
> overflow (does that sound familiar, don't we ever learn?) that caused
> a portion of memory to be overwritten with a very carefully crafted
> piece of machine code which then went and fetched the rest of the
> worm.  (My memory could be faulty on this last variation.)  Because
> this was binary code, it would only work on specific one specific Unix
> variant which was most prevalent at the time, 4.3 BSD I think.  (Does
> this also sound familiar?  Pick the most prevalent OS to go out
> after?)

As with some modern worms, the Morris Worm had multiple entry vectors.
It did exploit a buffer overflow, but that was in fingerd, not
sendmail.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

------------------------------

From: Forrest Nelson <jfnelson@aeieng.com>
Subject: Nitsuko/NEC 704i and Fax Servers
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:22:00 -0800


Does anyone have experience with configuring a 704i to integrate with
fax servers preferably using extensions that can out-pulse the called
extension number after the fax board answers.

Thanks,

J. Forrest Nelson, RCDD
Affiliated Engineers NW, Inc. (AEI)
mailto:jfnelson@aeieng.com e-mail
http://www.aeieng.com web
206-256-0800 phone
206-256-0423 fax

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Money, Money, was Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:48:13 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.79.5@telecom-digest.org> Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> writes:

> ST. PAUL (AP) -- The rising popularity of Internet telephones could 
> undermine the finances of the state's 911 systems while endangering 
> some users because the new technology doesn't alway mesh with the old 
> emergency system.

> So-called Internet telephony's popularity worries Jim Beutelspacher,
> manager of the statewide 911 program for the Department of Public
> Safety, because it doesn't pay a 40-cent-per-month tax for each new
> subscriber.

Aside from the bigger issue that "911 centers" should (in my opinion,
that is -- rational folk can disagree with this a bit) be supported
the same way other government business is, namely through the general
tax levy, there's a very specific point here:

	In audit after audit in NYS (and others, although being
	from NY it's the one I'm most familiar with) it turns
	out that any so-called "911 surcharge" is simply absorbed
	into the general gov't revenue/expense stream

	In fact, just yesterday (18-Feb) the NYS Comptroller
	realased yet another report. The details aren't yet
	up on his webpage [a], but quoting from a typical 
	news report:

"E-911 surcharge on cell phones helps state pay its bills 
Updated: 2/18/2004 11:05 PM By: News 10 Now Staff

	A report released Wednesday by the State Comptroller's Office
	said New York is diverting revenue intended for improving
	emergency 911 services to the state's general fund.

	http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=10875&SecID=83

[a] it'll be at: http://www.osc.state.ny.us  probably in a day or two.

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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What's so unusual about government 
squandering and mis-appropriating the money they were given (or
rather, took from us under various false pretenses?  Do you remember
how, prior to the various state lotteries we were told the money
would be used to support the schools? Now the lottery money just 
goes into general revenue and the schools are in the same miserable
condition they always were. Oh, and the taxes on alcohol and
cigarettes: going to be used to help fight alcoholism and tobacco
addiction, right? Oh, and have you heard about the infamous tobacco
settlement that R.J. Reynolds and the others signed? Gonna be used
to pay for hospital for cancer patients, right? The states have
squandered that money so badly -- everything *but* medical treatment
-- now R.J. Reynolds has petitioned the court saying since the 
states are not living up to their promises to use the money as
dictated, the tobacco companies should not have to pay it either.
Never, never expect the governments to keep up their end of deals
they made. The only thing that matters is the federal program which
I call 'no servants left behind' ... a takeoff on Bush's 'no child
left behind'.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: DevilsPGD <lalalaNOSPAM@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy!
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:51:56 GMT


In message <<telecom23.79.5@telecom-digest.org>> Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> did ramble:

> Last fiscal year, a 33-cent 911 fee generated $20.8 million. The
> higher fee this year is expected to bring in $25.4 million, mainly to
> pay for connections to public safety call centers, Beutelspacher said.

> But if more people drop their regular telephone service in favor of
> tax-free Internet calling, the financial underpinnings of 911 will be
> weakened, he said.

> The problems have been noted within the industry, but it's expected to
> become a bigger issue as more people turn to Internet telephony
> because it can be cheaper than regular telephone service.

But presumably as more and more people get phone lines incapable of
dialing 911, the costs for operating 911 should drop as well, no?


The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have
their own.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:07:22 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Now Preening on the Coffee Table: The TiVo Remote Control


By KATIE HAFNER

TO most home viewers, remote controls may seem like ancillary
sidekicks to the main attraction that is the television, DVD player or
digital video recorder. Yet in some ways the remote has become the
centerpiece of home entertainment: so many functions have been
relegated to this slip of an object that if it is lost, you may find
yourself unable to do so much as call up a menu for watching the movie
you popped into the DVD player.

But if the remote control is a linchpin, it is also often an
inscrutable one. A typical remote may have some 40 buttons, with
functions that are hard to divine. Often the labels - "toggle,"
"planner" and the like - are no help. The device can feel like an
afterthought, thrown together without any planning at all.

Increasingly, however, electronics companies are recognizing that
building an easy-to-use remote control is an important and challenging
task. To improve the remote, they are deploying teams of experienced
industrial designers who focus on the product for months -- and
reaching out to consumers for advice.

In 1998, design engineers at TiVo , the Silicon Valley company that
helped introduce the digital video recorder to the world, set out to
produce a distinctive remote control. The result was a textbook blend
of complexity and ease of use.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/19/technology/circuits/19remo.html

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Blogs (web logs): What am I Not Getting?
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:41:23 -0500


In article <telecom23.80.9@telecom-digest.org>, jmayson@nyx.net wrote:

> And in all honesty I don't want people to know what I'm thinking.

Yet that's precisely what you were doing when you posted your message
to this list, isn't it?

> I'm just curious why people blog.  Are there any, for the lack of a
> better term, practical blogs out there?

I don't blog, either, but I assume it's for the same reasons that
people participate in newsgroups or mailing lists, and in earlier
times logged into BBSes.  They're all just variations on the same
theme, aren't they?  People like to communicate about their interests.
Or is there something different about blogs that makes you think they
require further explanation?


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

------------------------------

From: tech@xxcopy.com (Kan Yabumoto)
Subject: Re: A Suspicious Netscape Icon on my DeskTop
Date: 18 Feb 2004 23:37:03 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.76.5@telecom-digest.org>:

> In <telecom23.73.6@telecom-digest.org>, tech@xxcopy.com (Kan Yabumoto)
> wrote:

>> BTW, the Netscape icon that mysteriously appered on my Desktop is a
>> link to the following sign-up form:

>>    https://register.isp.netscape.com/default.jsp?promo=NS_2_6_2_2003_12_6

>> The brief description of the service can be viewed from:

>>    http://www.getnetscape.com/index.adp?promo=NS_2_7_7_2003_10_2

> These sound like "legitimate" netscape pointers, as opposed to some
> phisher or malware supplier.

Thank you for your response.  I had no doubt that the icon was
pointing to a "legitimate" site which is the real Netscape site.

But, I had a strong suspicion that the funny rearrangement of the
icons on my Desktop (that does not happen very often on an XP system)
was not just a coincidence.  I did not put the icon there.  It was
"planted" by some software (either as a result of some aggressive web
page that I visited, or some other mechanism that I don't know).

> Do you have automatic netscape updating turned on? 

No. I do not have Netscape (I suppose you mean Netscape's browser,
"Navigator" -- I used to used it before Microsoft came out with IE
 -- many years ago).

To come to think of it, I have the Mozilla browser that I use every
now and then (in order to read some web page whose hard-coded
extremely small font size makes it impossible to read).  But, I assume
Mozilla is independent from Netscape (Mozilla seems to have components
from Netscape) and I still do not believe Mozilla has a feature which
exhibit such a strange behavior.

> (Or might you have accidentally clicked 'yes' when it put up
> a box asking you if you wanted to update your netscape?[1])

It is a remote possibility (but, I have not knowingly done such a
thing). 

[1] I have a problem with software that does this kind of thing.  If
I'm clicking and/or typing fast, some box will pop up, intercept my
next "enter" keypress and disappear before I get a chance to realize
that something is there, much less read what it says.  <snip>

I agree.  The problem of many such pop-up windows is that they
abruptly steal the screen input-focus from my current window in such a
way that my regular typing-activity is interrupted.

Since no one else has responded to my question, this is probably not a
wide-spread experience which is shared by many other users (I
suspected my original theory even more after I did some research and
found out that Netscape had been renewing their effort in the ISP
business during the past 6 weeks).

I may have to accept your hypothesis that it could have been my
inadvertent input (response to some popup/dialog) ...

Anyway, regardless of how the icon was placed on my Desktop, what
Netscape is offering to the visitors to the web site seems such a
lousy deal I started to question Netscape's business "ethics" (not
just what they offer as an ISP, but the way they want to promote their
business).


Kan

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    Apple's Other Hardware Hit (Monty Solomon)
    ESPN Ends Ugly Fight With Cox Over Fees (Monty Solomon)
    U.S. Cable Modem Growth Slows, Opening Door to DSL (Monty Solomon)
    Charter Cable Posts Narrower 4Q Loss (Monty Solomon)
    CommScope Reports Fourth Quarter 2003 Results (Monty Solomon)
    Record Industry Targets 531 More Filesharers (Monty Solomon)
    Intel Unveils Platform Strategy for Ultra-Wideband Wireless (M. Solomon)
    Re: Home Intercom System With Cordless Phone (Jonathan E Cowperthwait)
    Re: Home Intercom System With Cordless Phone (Andrew Bell)
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:27:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Apple's Other Hardware Hit


BYTE OF THE APPLE
By Alex Salkever

As with the iPod, the hot Airport line of wireless-networking gear 
shows that ease of use and an eye for coming trends bring outsize 
gains.

Anyone following Apple Computer ( AAPL ) should be forgiven if they
feel that iPod has hogged all the glory lately. The wildly successful
digital music player has dominated media coverage and garnered
accolades, as well as capturing about one-third of the market for
these devices. But that golden halo has overshadowed another big Apple
hardware success: Its popular Airport line of wireless networking
devices.

The Airport Extreme base station acts as a wireless broadband router
that can support up to 50 computers, Macs or PCs. Apple also makes
wireless broadband cards that allow Macs to pull in signals based on
the 802.11 standard, known as Wi-Fi. Apple engineers jumped on the
Wi-Fi bandwagon early, building Airport-card slots into iMacs and
other Apple computers four years ago. Indeed, Apple had seen the
promise of wireless broadband when 802.11 was only emerging from
standards bodies (see BW Online, 2/18/04, "Wi-Fi's Growing Pains" ).

    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2004/tc20040219_0887_tc056.htm

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:38:48 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ESPN Ends Ugly Fight With Cox Over Fees


By GARY GENTILE AP Business Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Sports cable network ESPN has reached new
agreements with two cable television systems, ending a particularly
nasty dispute with Cox Communications that saw the launch of dueling
Web sites and ad campaigns.

The deal with Cox keeps ESPN and ESPN 2 on the extended basic tier
level of cable service _ meaning it will be available to most Cox
cable subscribers. Cox, in the face of what it said was unwarranted
price increases by ESPN, had threatened to move the cable channels to
a premium level of service.

Also Thursday, ESPN announced it had a similar long-term deal with
Charter Communications. In exchange for lower annual fee increases,
Charter agreed to add three new services to its system.

Specific terms of the new deals were not released, except that ESPN 
confirmed the new annual price increases will be less than 20 percent.

On its own Web site, Cox said the new deal called for an average rate
increase of 7 percent per year.

ESPN already charges the highest wholesale rates of any ad-supported
cable network. Last year, it said it would seek to negotiate new,
longer-term deals with lower rate increases as it expands its
services.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40648556

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:39:56 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: U.S. Cable Modem Growth Slows, Opening Door to DSL


By Michael Learmonth

NEW YORK, Feb 19 (Reuters) - As the market for high-speed Internet
connections moves into many American homes, telephone companies are
finally starting to take market share from once-dominant cable
companies.

The top U.S. cable operators -- Comcast Corp.  <CMCSA.O>, Time Warner
Inc. (NYSE:TWX), Cox Communications Inc.  <COX.N>, and Charter
Communications Inc. (NASDAQ:CHTR) -- all reported slower growth in the
last quarter among new consumers signing up for high-speed Internet
service.

Meanwhile, the top telephone companies offering high-speed Internet
access, SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) and Verizon Communications
(NYSE:VZ), are experiencing growth reminiscent of cable's heyday in
2002 and early 2003.

Cable still holds 64 percent of the high-speed data market, but that
share may shrink in the coming year as the telcos make inroads among
more price-sensitive consumers with their slower, cheaper digital
subscriber line, or DSL, offerings.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40647934

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:43:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Charter Cable Posts Narrower 4Q Loss


By JIM SUHR AP Business Writer

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Charter Communications Inc., the nation's
third-largest cable TV systems operator, said Thursday its loss
narrowed in the fourth quarter versus a year ago as it pressed its bid
to restructure and cut debt.

The St. Louis-based company, controlled by Microsoft Corp. co-founder
Paul Allen and serving about 6.6 million customers in 40 states, said
Thursday it lost $58 million, or 20 cents per share, during the three
months ended Dec. 31. That compared with a loss of $1.87 billion, or
$6.36 a share, a year ago. Both earnings figures were after payments
of $1 million in preferred stock dividends.

Analysts surveyed by Thomson First Call were expecting a loss of 42 
cents a share.

Fourth-quarter revenues rose 2 percent to $1.22 billion from $1.19
billion, growth the company largely pinned on a 47 percent rise in
high-speed data revenues.

Operating costs and expenses were flat in the latest period at $733 
million, reflecting higher programming costs partly offset by reduced 
marketing and other expenses.

Charter, with about $18.6 billion in debt, launched a restructuring
effort in 2002 and pressed it throughout last year. As part of that,
Charter posted a $35 million special charge in the fourth quarter of
2002, mostly tied to its work force cutbacks and winnowing operations
from three divisions and 10 regions into five operating divisions,
eliminating redundancies and streamlining its management.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40647043

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:46:34 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CommScope Reports Fourth Quarter 2003 Results


HICKORY, N.C., Feb. 19 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- CommScope, Inc.
(NYSE:CTV) today announced fourth quarter results for the period ended
December 31, 2003, which was prior to the acquisition of the
Connectivity Solutions business of Avaya Inc. The Company reported
sales of $153.8 million and a net loss of $1.0 million, or $0.02 per
share, for the fourth quarter.  The net loss included after-tax equity
in losses of OFS BrightWave, LLC of $0.08 per share related to
CommScope's minority ownership interest in this venture.

For the fourth quarter of 2002, CommScope reported sales of $135.9
million and a net loss of $3.5 million or $0.06 per share. This net
loss reflected after-tax equity in losses of OFS BrightWave of $0.08
per share.

CommScope's sales for the fourth quarter rose 13% to $153.8 million,
compared to $135.9 million in the year-ago quarter and rose 3%
sequentially compared to $148.7 million in the third quarter of 2003.
Sales rose year- over-year in all major product groups.  Enterprise
LAN sales increased more than 50% from the depressed year-ago sales
levels.  Wireless/Other Telecom sales more than doubled
year-over-year.

Orders booked in the fourth quarter of 2003 were $149.4 million
compared to $132.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2002 and $152.2
million in the preceding quarter.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40646393

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:19:49 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EFFector 17.5: Record Industry Targets 531 More Filesharers


EFFector    Vol. 17, No. 5       February 18, 2004   donna@eff.org

A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation  ISSN 1062-9424
In the 280th Issue of EFFector:

  * Record Industry Targets 531 More Filesharers 
  * EFF Privacy Coalition Presses Congress for Hearings on Travel 
    Privacy
  * Update on CAPPS II Passenger Profiling: What's Going On?
  * Let the Sun Set on PATRIOT - Section 215
  * Update on IEEE Electronic Voting Standards - Progress!
  * Internet Pioneer Gives Over $1.2 Million to EFF to Defend
    Online Freedom
  * Deep Links (14): Jim Griffin - "The war is over.  The public 
    has won."
  * Staff Calendar: 02.25.04 - Fred von Lohmann speaks at the 
    Future of Music Coalition's Music Summit West, U.C. Hastings 
    Law School, San Francisco, CA; 03.02.04 - Seth Schoen speaks 
    at OpenBSD Users Group, San Francisco, CA; 03.03.04 - Fred
    von Lohmann speaks at Digital Piracy Dilemma Panel, London, 
    UK
  * Administrivia

http://www.eff.org/effector/17/5.php 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:41:57 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Intel Unveils Platform Strategy for Ultra-Wideband Wireless


     Intel Unveils Platform Strategy for Ultra-Wideband Wireless
     Technology; UWB Technology Offers High-Speed Wireless Data
     Transfer Between Devices
     - Feb 18, 2004 02:45 PM (BusinessWire)

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 18, 2004--Intel Corporation today
outlined its plans to drive the development of a complete, standards-
based, common platform for ultra-wideband (UWB) wireless technology.
Future UWB technology-based products built on this platform will
enable high-speed transfer of multimedia content between devices in
the home or office, at lower costs and without the hassle of wires.

UWB is a wireless radio technology for transmitting data between
consumer electronics, PC peripherals and mobile devices within short
range at very high speeds, while consuming little power. It is ideally
suited for wireless transfer of high-quality multimedia content, such
as wirelessly streaming family videos from the digital video recorder
to a high-definition television in the living room or wirelessly
connecting a mobile PC to a projector in a conference room to deliver
a presentation.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40635576

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:35:28 -0600
Subject: Re: Home Intercom System With Cordless Phone?
From: Jonathan E Cowperthwait <jec@schro.co.uk>


I imagine I won't be the only reader to recommend the following:

The Siemens GigaSet system offers exactly what has been described -- I
have an older system (four years old) that supports two CO lines and
eight internal extensions; the units are gigahertz cordless handsets
resembling oversized cellphones -- I've put one in every room of the
house. Depending on need, the system can be configured with pseudo
DID, different line access and privacy settings for each extension,
and the usual gamut of intercom dialing, transfers, conferencing, and
parking. I've been supremely happy with the system.

The older generation of GigaSet system equipment is easily obtained
online through, e.g., eBay; the newest version of the system, with
more bells and whistles, is available via retail, but of course costs
a bit more.

On 2/19/04 7:03 PM, was written:

> In light of the dicussion about a home phone system (2-4 lines, a
> half-dozen extensions, perhaps) that offers intercom connections
> between any two phones, I'm wondering:

> Is there such a system that will work with a cordless phone?  The idea
> is that the cordless phone could be one of the stations.

Best, 

Jonathan Edward Cowperthwait
Schrdinger Partners, LLP
San Francisco     Chicago

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From: Andrew Bell <andrewb314@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Home Intercom Phone System With Cordless Phone?
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:11:08 -0500


joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote about Home Intercom Phone
System With Cordless Phone:

> In light of the dicussion about a home phone system (2-4 lines, a
> half-dozen extensions, perhaps) that offers intercom connections
> between any two phones, I'm wondering:

> Is there such a system that will work with a cordless phone?  The idea
> is that the cordless phone could be one of the stations.

Siemens makes a 2 line system (the 8825) that handles up to 8 cordless
extensions from a single base.  The base is a fully functional station
as well, with a built in 4 mailbox answering machine and
auto-attendant.  It has full intercom between all handsets, conference
calling, etc.

http://www.my-siemens.com

<Disclaimer: I work for Siemens, but not in the communications division.>

Andrew

------------------------------

From: John McHarry <jmcharry@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:34:29 -0500


Tony P. wrote:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Kyler, I think you are confused,
>> not Qworst. You don't have to have dialtone on a line, just battery.

> Not even battery. See above.

> I think the DSLAM provides the voltage necessary.

Actually some DSL modems can be run back to back over a dry pair, such
as an alarm circuit. This is useful in some applications.

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:04:44 -0600


Chris Kantarjiev <cak@dimebank.com> wrote:

>> Qwest is confused.  It can't be done. 

> Oh please. I have a pair dedicated to DSL, no dial tone, right now. 
> I've had it for years. 

> "A line for free"? Hardly. I pay handsomely for the privilege of
> using that copper pair.

Hey, there is such a thing as DSL without dialtone. It's called SDSL. :P 


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: epg1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:00:15 +0000


McWebber (mcwebber@my-deja.com) wrote:

> Verizon recently caved and now allows DSL only subscriptions, so I'm
> sure Qworst looked at that before making the decision.

Can anyone provide details of DSL-only subscriptions through Verizon
(in Eastern Massachusetts, if it matters)?  I would love to tell
Comcast where to shove their overpriced service.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, if you think the telephone
company is going to give you a better deal *and* stick to their word,
you might need to review your premises. (in other words, think again.)
PAT]

------------------------------

From: dold@NowXPreeni.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Now Preening on the Coffee Table: The TiVo Remote Control
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 02:59:11 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> In 1998, design engineers at TiVo , the Silicon Valley company that
> helped introduce the digital video recorder to the world, set out to
> produce a distinctive remote control. The result was a textbook blend
> of complexity and ease of use.

> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/19/technology/circuits/19remo.html

I thought this was an article about some new remote that Tivo was
offering.  The current Tivo control could use a lot of ergonomic help.

It is disparingly called a peanut in the users' groups.  There is no
distinction of which way is up when it fits in your hand.  It's easy
to pick it up backwards and start pressing the wrong buttons, since
the volume up-down and channel up-down are conveniently close enough
to center to be used upside down.  It probably won't work, since the
infrared is pointed at your chest, but it takes a moment to realize.

Obviously the user isn't expected to hit "clear" very often, since it
almost requires two hands to hit while still pointed at the Tivo.

There are two gigantic buttons that I never use. It doesn't control
anything except the Tivo ...

The Remote for my DirecTV was a much better design.  The Tivo remote
strikes me as first and foremost a fanciful design that makes the Tivo
experience the mopst prominent feature.

And why does a four year old remote get an article in today's NYTimes?


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Now Preening on the Coffee Table: The TiVo Remote Control
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:59:08 GMT


In article <telecom23.82.17@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com 
says:

> By KATIE HAFNER

> TO most home viewers, remote controls may seem like ancillary
> sidekicks to the main attraction that is the television, DVD player or
> digital video recorder. Yet in some ways the remote has become the
> centerpiece of home entertainment: so many functions have been
> relegated to this slip of an object that if it is lost, you may find
> yourself unable to do so much as call up a menu for watching the movie
> you popped into the DVD player.

> But if the remote control is a linchpin, it is also often an
> inscrutable one. A typical remote may have some 40 buttons, with
> functions that are hard to divine. Often the labels - "toggle,"
> "planner" and the like - are no help. The device can feel like an
> afterthought, thrown together without any planning at all.

Some time back I ordered the OmniRemote module from Pacific Neo-Tek.
Works rather well with my Visor Prism.

Only thing was, it didn't want to hear it with Cox's GI cable boxes.
That was just a frequency issue and I resolved it.

In any case, I was able to consolidate all the remotes onto this thing 
and it's great. 

Best part -- you can put only the buttons you really use on a screen,
and then put lesser used buttons on another page. I do that with the
VCR and DVD players. For example, the first VCR page has the usual
controls, numbers for channel selection, and certain features I use
all the time.  The other page has programming/timer features.

------------------------------

From: lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:16:15 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> wrote:

> The thing about cable vs. DSL is that the cable coming into your
> home is a shared medium. On the cable side it looks like one big
> Ethernet LAN even using CDMA/CD.

Not quite.  Cable modems transmit and receive on completely different
frequency bands, so it's not possible for one cable modem to receive
another cable modem's transmissions.  And it isn't CSMA/CD: The CMTS
(the head end) is the only thing that transmits on the downstream
channel, so there's no need for access control.  The upstream channel
is divided into slots that are scheduled by the CMTS (the schedule is
broadcast on the downstream channel).  Slots are usually assigned to
specific modems, so no other access control is needed.  CSMA/CD is
only used when a slot is specifically assigned for it (mostly just for
modems to announce themselves when they first boot, although it's may
also be allowed for general transmissions when there's no pending
traffic to be scheduled).

-Larry Jones

Buddy, if you think I'm even going to BE here, you're crazy! -- Calvin

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:45:52 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


>> But if more people drop their regular telephone service in favor of
>> tax-free Internet calling, the financial underpinnings of 911 will be
>> weakened, he said.

> But presumably as more and more people get phone lines incapable of
> dialing 911, the costs for operating 911 should drop as well, no?

Seems to me it's just the opposite.  911 *can* respond to VoIP, but
it's (currently) more expensive.  Each VoIP phone that uses the 911
network instead of a landline doubly drains 911 funds.

While on the topic, though, why do only phone users pay the 911 tax?
I'd be curious to know how many 911 calls come the phone where the
trouble is, and how many are calls about something else?  My guess is
that many, maybe even most, 911 calls are to help someone else ("that
building is on fire," "I heard gunshots," "there's been an accident,"
etc.)


-Joel

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:47:48 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: My SBC Experience (was Re: Phantom DSL Reprised)
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


>> It was an Illinois Bell customer service rep who spent about half an
>> hour going over available numbers with me when setting up new service
>> at my first house -- two cool numbers (xxx-8088 and xx8-0386), no
>> extra charge.  OK, they don't do this any more (who does?).  But they
>> did then.

Sometimes you can get a rep to cycle through several numbers, at
random when you get a new line.  It doesn't usually take long to get a
number that ends in zero.

-Joel

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    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (L. Jones)
    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (Novosielski)
    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (D Aspinwall)
    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (Joel Hoffman)
    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (Joe Wineburgh)
    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (Andrew Bell)
    Re: Distractions While Driving, And Not Just Cell Phones (Lisa Minter)
    Re: Money, Money, was Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Clash (Tony P.)
    Re: Symbol Added to Morse Code (Tony P.)
    Pros & Cons of Digital Epabx Compare to Hybrid Epabx (sonal)
    Use a Multiline Phone in a Single-line Jack (Jameson)
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From: lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:16:16 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Could someone please tell me in a 
> convincing way what is the difference between a motorist who exercises
> reasonable caution most of the time but talks on a cell phone and a 
> police officer chasing someone at 100 miles per hour on a busy highway
> while talking into a microphone on a police radio?  Both of them are
> 'distracted' are they not?  PAT]

Not in the same way.  The cell phone user is likely concentrating on
the conversation and driving on autopilot.  The officer, on the other
hand, is likely concentrating on the driving and talking into the
radio (*not* carrying on a conversation) on autopilot.  The officer is
almost certainly a much better trained driver, too.  Numerous studies
have shown that talking on a phone is far more distracting than
listening to the radio, putting on nail polish, or even having a
conversation with someone *in* the car.  As far as I know, no one
knows for sure *why* that is, but my guess is that it has a lot to do
with how most of us have learned to block out outside distractions
while talking on the phone.

-Larry Jones

That's the problem with nature.  Something's always stinging you
or oozing mucus on you. -- Calvin

------------------------------

From: Gary Novosielski <gpn@suespammers.org>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:02:32 GMT


Doug Aspinwall wrote:

> New York is currently the only state to ban hand-held cell phones
> while driving without using a hands-free device.  Several states have
> tried to pass a similar ban for the general public, but they have not
> passed.

New Jersey passed such a bill recently, and it was signed into law.  I 
believe it takes effect July 1.

It is only a secondary offense; an officer cannot stop you merely for
using a phone handset, if you're doing nothing else wrong.  However,
if you are stopped for another infraction the officer can add the
cellphone violation to whatever else they write you up for.

=Gary

------------------------------

From: Doug Aspinwall <compdcomtelecom@selkeith.com>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 06:35:26 -0500
Organization: None whatsoever (just ask my wife)


Doug Aspinwall <compdcomtelecom@selkeith.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.82.6@telecom-digest.org:

> Check out www.cellular-news.com/car_bans/

> New York is currently the only state to ban hand-held cell phones
> while driving without using a hands-free device.  Several states have
> tried to pass a similar ban for the general public, but they have not
> passed.

> Several states have bans for bus drivers and/or school bus drivers.

> Doug Aspinwall

> Near Dover, DE (the only state capital without a commercial airport)

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Could someone please tell me in a
> convincing way what is the difference between a motorist who exercises
> reasonable caution most of the time but talks on a cell phone and a
> police officer chasing someone at 100 miles per hour on a busy highway
> while talking into a microphone on a police radio?  Both of them are
> 'distracted' are they not?  PAT]

Police officers are trained to drive and communicate simultaneously.
The ordinary driver is not.  Perhaps that should be a requirement of
obtaining a driver's license.  Just might save some lives.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:39:18 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Could someone please tell me in a 
> convincing way what is the difference between a motorist who exercises
> reasonable caution most of the time but talks on a cell phone and a 
> police officer chasing someone at 100 miles per hour on a busy highway
> while talking into a microphone on a police radio?  Both of them are
> 'distracted' are they not?  PAT]

The difference is obvious:

The police officer going 100 MPH can give a ticket to the motorist
with the cell phone, but not vice versa ...

------------------------------

From: Joe Wineburgh <Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:33:27 -0500


Thought I heard some rumblings recently about this in NJ as well;

As of 1/20/04 it is now illegal in NJ, technically only as a 'secondary'
offense, but we all know how that works, don't we?

#JOE

http://www.nj.gov/cgi-bin/governor/njnewsline/view_article.pl?id=1712

Governor Signs Law Banning Hand-Held Cell Phones While Driving 

Building A Better New Jersey: Making Roads Safer

(RIDGEFIELD)-Governor James E. McGreevey signed legislation today that
bans the use of hand-held cell phones while operating a moving
vehicle.  The new law will continue the Governor's efforts to "Build a
Better New Jersey" by making New Jersey highways safer.

"Cell phones have become inescapable," said McGreevey.  "They are part
of our daily lives.  This ban will not threaten that.  Like any other
instrument that could be dangerous, cell phones must be used
responsibly.  Requiring drivers to keep both hands on the wheel will
save lives"

The bill allows the use of wireless telephones equipped for hands-free
operation in moving vehicles, provided the placement of those
hands-free telephones does not interfere with the operation of
federally required equipment on the vehicles, such as air bags.

Drivers may use a hand-held telephone in a moving motor vehicle only
if:

(1) They have reason to fear for their lives or safety, or believe
that a criminal act may be perpetrated against them or another person
requiring the use of the wireless telephone while the car is moving;
or

(2) To report a fire, traffic accident, serious road hazard or medical
or hazardous materials emergency, or to report a person who is driving
in a reckless, careless or otherwise unsafe manner or who appears to
be under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

"Enactment of this law will end the confusion many motorists face
while driving through our state, never knowing which towns prohibit
the use of hand-held cell phones while driving," said Assemblyman
Douglas H. Fisher (D-Cumberland).  "We now have a uniform law that
will require drivers to minimize distractions while driving, making
our roads safer."

Enforcement of the law by State or local law enforcement officers is
to be accomplished only as a secondary action when the driver has been
pulled over for a traffic violation or another offense.  The penalties
for violating the provision may range from $100 to $250.  No motor
vehicle points or automobile insurance eligibility points would be
assessed for a violation of this law.

Last year, a Quinnipiac University poll showed New Jersey's voters 85
percent of New Jersey's voters overwhelmingly favor a hand-held cell
phone ban.  Even those who used cell phones said drivers should keep
their hands on the wheel.

Earlier today, the Governor signed "Florence's Law" which lowers the
blood alcohol content from 0.10 to 0.08 percent and "Michael's Law"
which requires a person who commits a third or subsequent DWI offense
to serve a 180-day prison term in a county jail or workhouse.
 
------------------------------

From: Andrew Bell <andrewb314@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:22:25 -0500


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Could someone please tell me in a 
> convincing way what is the difference between a motorist who exercises
> reasonable caution most of the time but talks on a cell phone and a 
> police officer chasing someone at 100 miles per hour on a busy highway
> while talking into a microphone on a police radio?  Both of them are
> 'distracted' are they not?  PAT]

Two reasons, I think.

A - the police officer is presumably talking about the task at hand
(which is driving), rather than something completely unrelated.

B - police (or taxi, bus, ham, whatever) radios are not held to the
ear.

Don't ask me to explain it, but there just seems to be something about
holding a phone to your ear that causes (a lot of) people to partition
themselves mentally.  They focus their attention on the phone call,
and let the subconscious mind drive.  I *know* I do this - that's why
I won't use a handheld and drive.  I admit, it took a close call for
me to recognize this pattern, but I don't seem to have the same
problem when using a handsfree unit.


Andrew

------------------------------

From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:00:00 CST


An item in the police activity column, or police blotter of the 
Independence Reporter yesterday said the police had chased some
guy driving over by 11th and Sycamore Streets who had come out 
of the Sidecar (a tavern by the railroad station) who jumped in
his car and sped away when they tried to stop him to talk about 
his condition (drunk and driving.) They chased him for several
blocks before they caught him, and according to the story in the
newspaper, he was talking on his cell phone all the time police
were chasing after him. They finally caught him when he ran up
onto the sidewalk and into a fence around a house on 11th Street.
Besides being drunk while driving, they also charged him with
using his cell phone in an unsafe way.  I would guess so. 

Lisa

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Money, Money, was Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:51:36 GMT


In article <telecom23.82.15@telecom-digest.org>, dannyb@panix.com 
says:

> In <telecom23.79.5@telecom-digest.org> Monty Solomon
> <monty@roscom.com> writes:

>> ST. PAUL (AP) -- The rising popularity of Internet telephones could 
>> undermine the finances of the state's 911 systems while endangering 
>> some users because the new technology doesn't alway mesh with the old 
>> emergency system.

>> So-called Internet telephony's popularity worries Jim Beutelspacher,
>> manager of the statewide 911 program for the Department of Public
>> Safety, because it doesn't pay a 40-cent-per-month tax for each new
>> subscriber.

> Aside from the bigger issue that "911 centers" should (in my opinion,
> that is -- rational folk can disagree with this a bit) be supported
> the same way other government business is, namely through the general
> tax levy, there's a very specific point here:

> 	In audit after audit in NYS (and others, although being
> 	from NY it's the one I'm most familiar with) it turns
> 	out that any so-called "911 surcharge" is simply absorbed
> 	into the general gov't revenue/expense stream

It's not just in NYS -- happens here in RI too. Everything rolls right
into the general fund. And who holds the purse strings -- our esteemed
legislators of course.

I invite you to go to http://www.projo.com and see who's had their hand 
in the cookie jar. 

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Symbol Added to Morse Code
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 04:05:49 GMT


In article <telecom23.82.4@telecom-digest.org>, 
Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com says:

> http://www.cjonline.com/stories/021704/pag_morsecode.shtml

> The Associated Press

> Morse code is entering the 21st century -- or at least the late 20th.
> The 160-year-old communication system now has a new character to
> denote the "@" symbol used in e-mail addresses.

> In December, the International Telecommunications Union, which
> oversees the entire frequency spectrum, from amateur radio to
> satellites, voted to add the new character.

> The new sign, which will be known as a "commat," consists of the
> signals for "A" (dot-dash) and "C" (dash-dot-dash-dot), with no space
> between them.

Ahem -- that's dit-dah dah-dit-dah-dit -- another amateur radio
prosign to remember. Thing is AT is dit-dah dah, several elements
shorter than the new prosign.

I hate it when that happens. 

kd1s - an extra who had to do the 20WPM code damn it. 

------------------------------

From: son_tha@yahoo.com (sonal)
Subject: Pros & Cons of Digital Epabx Compare to Hybrid Epabx
Date: 20 Feb 2004 02:59:21 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello,

I want to buy new Epabx system for my office. I need maximum 40
extension & KTS.

Can any one please tell me pros & cons of Digital Epabx compare to
Hybrid Epabx.

At present I have quote for Karel 40, Panasonic 1232, Matrix Eternity
& Symense 48i.

Which is advisable? 

I would appreciate your answer.

Thanks, 

Sonal Thakker

------------------------------

From: jameson_ray@comcast.net (Jameson)
Subject: Use a Multiline Phone in a Single-Line Jack
Date: 20 Feb 2004 06:45:52 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi Everyone,

I was just given three GE 2-9405C phones. After doing some online
research, I found that they must have two lines connected in one jack
on the back to operate. They will not just operate on a single line
(which is true, as I have tried it on the single-line jacks in my
house). Because we don't have two phone lines, I would like to know if
anyone has an idea on a way to make a custom cable, or buy an adaptor.

Thanks in advance!

-Jameson

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Often times telephone devices *will*
work on one line but the pin out on the modular connecting cord is
wrong. One line devices usually come only with a cord for 'one line'
which is typically the red/green wires on the first and fourth pins
(if they are present) in the modular cord. You might start by getting
four wire modular cords, such as at Radio Shack. The two inner pins,
which usually relate to the yellow/black wires make the 'second line'
work.  Or if you get a six-wire cord, then the scheme is the two
outermost pins (1 and 6 are blue and white) the two middle pins (2 and
five are black and yellow) and the two innermost pins (3 and 4 are
green and red). If a cord like that fits into the base of your phone
(so the pins on the cord touch the pins of the phone when it is 
plugged in) then your problem is mostly solved. 

If the phone(s) still do not work, look at the box on the wall where
the wires come in and the modular cord plugs in. Assuming the wiring
is sort of standard, the cover plate will have the red/green wires
working but the yellow/black wires will either be tied on to two
screws but doing nothing, or not tied down at all (sometimes). What
you will want to do is 'trick the phone' into thinking it is being 
served on 'line two' instead of 'line one'. Swap out the red/green
wires in the modular cord and attach them to the places where the
black/yellow wires (that had been or would be) used for 'line two'
if you had such a thing. In other words, take the live pair you do
have coming in and make sure they are attached to the two center
pins by the time it reaches the phone, typically yellow and black.

What is unclear to me is your use of the phrase "two lines connected
in one jack."  I checked the GE website and did *not* find anything
entitled "GE 2-9405C" or anything remotely similar. There were
pictures of some phones you might have been referring to. If what
I said above does not help write again and be more specific about
the 'two lines connected in one jack' and if it means two actual
working phone line pairs, or two sets of wires, working or not.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Betty Cockrell <Betty.Cockrell@billingconcepts.com>
Subject: Reliable Means of Determining LEC For Given Phone Number?
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:12:38 -0600


In article <telecom23.79.9@telecom-digest.org>, no@spam.com says:

> Does anyone know of a reliable means of determining the servicing LEC 
> for a given phone number?

> I'm trying to find a reliable means of determining what is the 
> servicing LEC for any given phone number. Right now this is limited to 
> only needing to work for CA. USA phone numbers. Using the various 
> resources (LERG, and other similar databases) I can get down to what 
> the operating Company is for a given NPA/NXX but with Thousand Number
> (block) Pooling, and porting of numbers, there are over lapping 
> NPA/NXXs for various providers, and while the operating company for a 
> given NPA/NXX maybe SBC (Pacific Bell) the line may in fact be 
> serviced by Verizon (GTE).

> So far I'm at a loss as to how to reliably perform, what in an ideal 
> world, would be a simple search.

The changes resulting from local competition (UNE, Resale, Porting and
pooling) have made look ups at an NPANXX level increasingly inaccurate.
One solution is to do a LIDB GETDATA Query for the Account Owner (or OCN
Operating Company Number) for the telephone number in question.  LIDB
GETDATA services are available through several companies on a per query
basis.   

------------------------------

From: Alan Burkitt-Gray <ABurkitt@EUROMONEYPLC.COM>
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:06:49 -0000


Dr. Joel M. Hoffman (joel@exc.com) asked: 

> 'Why do only phone users pay the 911 tax? I'd be curious to know how
> many 911 calls come the phone where the trouble is, and how many are
> calls about something else?  My guess is that many, maybe even most,
> 911 calls are to help someone else ("that building is on fire," "I
> heard gunshots," "there's been an accident," etc.)'

Goodness me, Joel. Sounds almost like you're suggesting the community
as a whole should act together and fund a collective service, just
like we do here in Europe. Do be careful, or some folks'll be accusing
you of socialism or other European habits.


Alan Burkitt-Gray 
Editor, Global Telecoms Business 
Euromoney Institutional Investor plc, Nestor House, Playhouse Yard, London
EC4V 5EX, UK 
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email aburkitt@euromoneyplc.com 
  
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is official publication at TeleManagement World, Nice, France, May 17-20
2004, with supplement plus three daily newspapers. 


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Having the 'nerve' to say you sometimes
prefer how the Europeans do things is sort of a problem here in this
newsgroup at times, isn't it Alan?   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:02:11 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information


It was a dark and stormy night when joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
wrote:

> While on the topic, though, why do only phone users pay the 911 tax?

Because it was easy to sneak that in, and provides implausible
deniability to the politicians who want to say they're "lowering
taxes".  It's all the rage, call it a "mandatory surcharge" or a "user
fee" or an "access charge", anything but a "tax".  Too bad
truth-in-advertising doesn't apply to politicians.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, Dave, it also occurs to me
that the present attacks on VOIP (Internet phone service) by 
politicians and others also helps the FBI/Justice people who have a
king-size grudge right now about how difficult it will be to trace
or tap or bug telephone calls using this medium. Don't listen to that
balogna about how the 'poor 911 tax will suffer so badly because of
people getting into VOIP'. They've made more than enough money to 
fund every 911 call center in the world many times over; that is, if
they had spent the money properly, not misappropriated it or sqaundered
it on other often times useless projects as part of the overall
goal to have 'no servants left behind'. They just cannot stand having
anything around they cannot have their hands in, can they?    PAT]

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    779 to Overlay 815 in Northern Illinois (Mark J Cuccia)
    321 Studios Will Appeal Court Ruling (Monty Solomon)
    Order in 321 Studios vrs. MGM  (Monty Solomon)
    DVD-XCOPY Contains Remote De-Activation Feature (Monty Solomon)
    Cable and Satellite Have Blurred Difference Between Networks (Solomon)
    Judge: DVD-Copying Software is Illegal (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Symbol Added to Morse Code (Gary Novosielski)
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:56:41 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: 779 to Overlay 815 in Northern Illinois


It WILL BE 779 to overlay 815!

See the press release dated today, 20-Feb-2004, from the
Illinois Commerce Commission's (state regulatory) website,
transcribed below ...

http://www.icc.state.il.us/tc/docs/040220AC815PR.pdf

ICC DIRECTS OVERLAY OF NEW AREA CODE FOR 815 AREA IN NORTHERN ILLINOIS
February 20, 2004

Beth Bosch

The Illinois Commerce Commission has issued an order establishing an
"overlay" of a new area code, to supplement the telephone number
supply in Illinois' 815 area code. The 815 area code serves northern
Illinois, including the cities of DeKalb, Joliet, Kankakee and
Rockford.

NeuStar, Inc., under contract by the Federal Communications Commission
to act as the national numbering administrator, has assigned 779 to be
new area code. Once in service, 779 will serve the same geographic
area presently served by 815. The overlay plan, approved by the ICC on
February 4, was chosen from several other relief alternatives,
including various geographic splits. A geographic split divides an
existing area code into two or more parts, requiring at least 50
percent of customers to change their telephone numbers. By contrast,
the overlay will serve the same geographic area of the existing 815
area code, allowing all current customers to keep their 815 telephone
numbers, while new customers to the area may be assigned a telephone
number in the new area code.

NeuStar first identified the 815 area code as being in need of
"relief" in May of 2000. The "relief" designation identifies an area
code that may run out of numbers within a short period of time unless
conservation efforts are employed, and one that will ultimately need
to be supplemented by a new area code. Since then, a variety of
conservation measures have been put in place to prolong the life of
the 815 area code and use telephone numbers more efficiently.

For example, in June of 2003, thousand block number pooling went into
effect in a significant portion of 815. Number pooling allows multiple
telecommunications carriers to share telephone numbers within a prefix
serving the same geographic area. Prior to number pooling, each
individual telecommunications carrier needed its own unique "prefix"
(10,000 numbers) in order to serve a city or town. Since the
introduction of thousand block number pooling, more than 1.6 million
phone numbers have been "donated" to the "pool" by carriers. These
numbers, in turn, can be used by other companies wishing to provide
service in the same cities and towns. Number pooling and the voluntary
return or reclamation of unneeded or unused numbering resources,
continues to maximize the efficient use of numbers.

Telephone numbers in the new 779 area code will not be assigned until
the 815 area code has reached exhaust. At that time, FCC rules mandate
that all telephone calls be made dialing the full 10-digit or
1+10-digit phone number, even within the same area code. This does not
affect the cost of the call. A local call remains local, and a toll
call remains toll, regardless of the number of digits that are dialed
to complete it.

Prior to the assignment of numbers from the new 779 area code,
customers in the 815 area code will have a period of time to adjust to
dialing 10 or 1+10 digits to complete their calls. There will be at
least a 90-120 day notice period prior to activation of the new 779
area code.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:56:33 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: 321 Studios Will Appeal Court Ruling


321 Studios Will Appeal Court Ruling

ST. LOUIS, Feb. 20 /PRNewswire/ -- 321 Studios (321) will appeal 
today's ruling of the Northern District Court of California's Judge 
Susan Illston, and will seek a stay during the appeal process.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200402202309_PRN__CGF044

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:27:08 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Order in 321 Studios v. MGM, et al.


321 STUDIOS v. METRO GOLDWYN MAYER STUDIOS, INC., ET AL.

Order Granting Defendants' Motion For Partial Summary
Judgment And Resolving Related Motions

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mgm/321mgm22004ord.pdf

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:58:21 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: DVDXCOPY Contains Remote De-Activation Feature


321 Studios Shuts Down Piracy Suspect

Preliminary Injunction and Transfer Motions to be Heard in New York
City Court Today

ST. LOUIS, Feb. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- 321 Studios (321) declares that its
piracy prevention measures are working on the day transfer and
preliminary injunction motions are to be heard in a New York City
courtroom.

321 Studios recently relied on DVDXCOPY's built-in piracy prevention
measures - the backup copy video disclaimer and ability to remotely
de-activate a customer's copy of DVDXCOPY -- to shut down an accused
copyright pirate.

321 first heard of this Illinois man's alleged activities in court 
papers related to Paramount Pictures Corporation and Twentieth 
Century Fox Film Corporation v. 321 Studios, a lawsuit filed in the 
Southern District Court of New York on November 14, 2003. The company 
took action the same day by remotely de-activating the man's copy of 
DVDXCOPY XPRESS.

321 Studios has several anti-piracy measures built into its DVDXCOPY 
series of software, including:


     -- An eight-second, indelible video warning, similar to the FBI
        warning found at the beginning of many DVD movies, alerting
        viewers of the backup copy that the DVD is not an original and
        is to be only used for non-commercial, personal use.

     -- An electronic watermark that can trace any backup copy made
        with DVDXCOPY back to the original point of purchase allowing
        321 Studios to remotely de-activate the software and prevent
        further misuse.

     -- An embedded bit flag that prevents making a copy of a copy using
        DVDXCOPY.

     -- A $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and
        conviction of any person using 321's software to pirate
        movies.


http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200402051302_PRN__CGTH019

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:13:00 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: "Cable and Satellite Have Blurred the Difference Between Networks"


Excerpt from Cable Boxes Can Block Unwanted Channels
20 February 2004, 1:35pm ET
By JONATHAN D. SALANT Associated Press Writer

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200402201835_APO_V1388

The problem, critics say, is that cable and satellite have blurred the
difference between networks. The traditional free networks _ CBS, NBC,
ABC and Fox _ are just different channels on the cable box. The result
is that a parent or child who channel surfs might click the "up"
button on the remote control and go from CBS to Spike TV's
"Stripperella," a cartoon about a buxom stripper doubling as a crime
fighter, or FX's "Nip/Tuck," about a sex-crazed plastic surgeon.

"The average person sees no difference between the two," said L.
Brent Bozell III, president of the Parents Television Council, a
conservative advocacy group. "The key distinction between the two of
them _ i.e., you subscribe to cable _ is kind of flawed as well."

Cable companies sell tiers of channels. If you want Disney and 
Discover Kids, you also must take MTV and FX. The only channels 
ordered individually are "premium" channels like Home Box Office and 
Showtime.

FCC Commissioner Kevin Martin said he wants to allow subscribers to 
pick and choose cable channels.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200402201835_APO_V1388

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:43:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Judge: DVD-Copying Software is Illegal


By John Borland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

After eight months of deliberation, a San Francisco federal judge has
ruled that software company 321 Studios' popular DVD-copying products
are illegal.

In a ruling released Friday, Judge Susan Illston granted Hollywood
studios' request for an injunction against 321 Studios, saying the
small software company has seven days to stop distributing its
DVD-copying products.

http://news.com.com/2100-1025-5162749.html

------------------------------

From: Gary Novosielski <gpn@suespammers.org>
Subject: Re: Symbol Added to Morse Code
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:23:37 GMT


Tony P. wrote:

> Ahem -- that's dit-dah dah-dit-dah-dit -- another amateur radio
> prosign to remember. 

Ahem yourself, actually @ would be di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit. There's no 
pause in the middle.

> Thing is AT is dit-dah dah, several elements shorter than the new
> prosign.

Well, Yes, but di-dah-dah was already taken.  It's the letter W.

------------------------------

From: William Warren <william_warren_noham@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Symbol Added to Morse Code
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:40:19 GMT


Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.84.9@telecom-digest.org:

> In article <telecom23.82.4@telecom-digest.org>,
> Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com says:

>> http://www.cjonline.com/stories/021704/pag_morsecode.shtml

>> The Associated Press

>> Morse code is entering the 21st century -- or at least the late 20th.
>> The 160-year-old communication system now has a new character to
>> denote the "@" symbol used in e-mail addresses.

>> In December, the International Telecommunications Union, which
>> oversees the entire frequency spectrum, from amateur radio to
>> satellites, voted to add the new character.

>> The new sign, which will be known as a "commat," consists of the
>> signals for "A" (dot-dash) and "C" (dash-dot-dash-dot), with no space
>> between them.

> Ahem -- that's dit-dah dah-dit-dah-dit -- another amateur radio
> prosign to remember. Thing is AT is dit-dah dah, several elements
> shorter than the new prosign.

> I hate it when that happens.

> kd1s - an extra who had to do the 20WPM code damn it.

I recommend that hams continue using the old style <name> AT <domain>
instead of <name> AC <domain>, so that spammers can't strip their
addresses off the airwaves and send them junk mail ads for ham radio
gear.

Just a thought.

Bill
(Remove the 'noham' portion of my return address for direct replies.)

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:08:41 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Gary Novosielski wrote:

> Doug Aspinwall wrote:

>> New York is currently the only state to ban hand-held cell phones
>> while driving without using a hands-free device.  Several states have
>> tried to pass a similar ban for the general public, but they have not
>> passed.

> New Jersey passed such a bill recently, and it was signed into law.  I 
> believe it takes effect July 1.

> It is only a secondary offense; an officer cannot stop you merely for
> using a phone handset, if you're doing nothing else wrong.  However,
> if you are stopped for another infraction the officer can add the
> cellphone violation to whatever else they write you up for.

> =Gary

Any bets as to how long it will be before it becomes a primary
offense????  They said that about the seat-belt law, too.

Any self-respecting cop can come up with a reason to stop you at any
time.  Thus this "secondary infraction" wording is pure horse-bleep.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
ingenious" - A. Bloch


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Oh sure ... if a police officer could
not think of any reason to arrest you he would be a poor police
officer indeed. That's why laws such as 'disorderly conduct' are so
valuable. Anyone saying they are not disorderly have never met a
police officer who decided they were. If you are 'disorderly' then
you can bed while they look up other more serious offenses against
you.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:00:19 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


> A - the police officer is presumably talking about the task at hand
> (which is driving), rather than something completely unrelated.

Not to mention, police officers are trained to drive at such speeds.  The
average driver isn't.

John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Distractions While Driving -- And Not Just Cell Phones
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:23:04 GMT


In article <telecom23.84.2@telecom-digest.org>, gpn@suespammers.org 
says:

> Doug Aspinwall wrote:

>> New York is currently the only state to ban hand-held cell phones
>> while driving without using a hands-free device.  Several states have
>> tried to pass a similar ban for the general public, but they have not
>> passed.

> New Jersey passed such a bill recently, and it was signed into law.  I 
> believe it takes effect July 1.

> It is only a secondary offense; an officer cannot stop you merely for
> using a phone handset, if you're doing nothing else wrong.  However,
> if you are stopped for another infraction the officer can add the
> cellphone violation to whatever else they write you up for.

Give it time. Once they figure out what a cash cow it's going to be it 
will become a primary offense. 

It surprises me that the seatbelt law in Rhode Island is still 
secondary, though there has been a push to make it primary. 

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:35:24 -0700
From: <email@crazyhat.net>


In message <<telecom23.83.16@telecom-digest.org>> joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel
M. Hoffman) did ramble:

>>> But if more people drop their regular telephone service in favor of
>>> tax-free Internet calling, the financial underpinnings of 911 will be
>>> weakened, he said.

>> But presumably as more and more people get phone lines incapable of
>> dialing 911, the costs for operating 911 should drop as well, no?

> Seems to me it's just the opposite.  911 *can* respond to VoIP, but
> it's (currently) more expensive.  Each VoIP phone that uses the 911
> network instead of a landline doubly drains 911 funds.

Most of the VoIP services I've seen don't offer 911.  I would expect
that a phone which cannot call 911, by definition, costs the 911
system less then a number which can call 911.

Admittedly, at their best, some VoIP services forward 911 to a local 7
digit emergency number of some sort.  I could accept that these calls
cost more to handle since the emergency operator will not have
accurate caller information as they would with a valid E911 service.

Even if you wanted to implement full E911, I'd still suggest that
false locations would occur since the VoIP service could have been
moved,


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Vonage offers 911 service. They ask you
FIRST to sign up for it THEN wait for their comfirmation before you 
start using it. When I was unable to get a local Vonage number I took
a San Franciso 415 number. I enrolled in 911 and a day ot two later,
Vonage responded saying I was registerd at my street address. I got
a letter the same day or next day from City of Independence Police
confirming it as given by Vonage via PSAP. Then once Vonage got into
this rural area of s.e. Kansas and had an area 620 local number avail-
able, I took that instead, and signed up that number 620-402-0134
for 911 also. Vonage sent that one through like the earlier one,
but because the first one 'obviously' was not Kansas -- e.g. San
Francisco -- when the paperwork got here to Independence a day or
two later, the lady from the police department called me and asked,
"Did you move over to Winfield (KS), where the number is at?" When 
I told her it was still my Vonage computer phone but with a more
local number, but Vonage was not yet co-located here in town. Terra
World is all over this part of the state; I do not know why Vonage
chose Winfield instead of Independence (20 miles away) but no matter
I guess. So she corrected their records at the police station to
show same address but new 620 number. PAT] 

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:46:44 GMT


In article <telecom23.84.14@telecom-digest.org>, 
dave.garland@wizinfo.com says:

> It was a dark and stormy night when joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel
> M. Hoffman) wrote: > While on the topic, though, why do only phone
> users pay the 911 tax?  Because it was easy to sneak that in, and
> provides implausible deniability to the politicians who want to say
> they're "lowering taxes".  It's all the rage, call it a "mandatory
> surcharge" or a "user fee" or an "access charge", anything but a
> "tax".  Too bad truth-in-advertising doesn't apply to politicians.


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, Dave, it also occurs to me
> that the present attacks on VOIP (Internet phone service) by
> politicians and others also helps the FBI/Justice people who have a
> king-size grudge right now about how difficult it will be to trace
> or tap or bug telephone calls using this medium. Don't listen to
> that balogna about how the 'poor 911 tax will suffer so badly
> because of people getting into VOIP'. They've made more than enough
> money to fund every 911 call center in the world many times over;
> that is, if they had spent the money properly, not misappropriated
> it or sqaundered it on other often times useless projects as part of
> the overall goal to have 'no servants left behind'. They just cannot
> stand having anything around they cannot have their hands in, can
> they?  PAT]

Most law enforcement doesn't know it's ass from it's elbow when it
comes to telecommunications technology. I had to laugh while watching
the HBO series "The Wire" -- yeah right, regular grunt cops are going
to understand wiretaps, etc.

The reality of it is that tapping ANY line is easy. Digital switches 
make it a simple proposition -- I remember a key demo on an AT&T 
5ESS/2000 - we could pluck any number and listen in, and the parties on 
the line wouldn't even know it because we were just picking a bit stream 
out of the matrix. 

The same is true of VoIP -- that call has to be routed through somewhere 
 -- and you can bet there's a way to monitor. Even though the main path is 
over IP it eventually enters a switch somewhere that authenticates the 
connection (Wouldn't do to have people who don't pay on the network!) 
and then finds a path to the PSTN to route the call. 


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But the fact that the call drops onto 
the public telephone network is only because there are still some
folks who do not have Vonage (or other VOIP) phones. When two VOIP
customers call each other on the phone, the call does NOT go on the
telephone network. As more and more people sign up for Vonage as an
example, less and less of the VOIP traffic will find its way onto 
the public telephone network. As far as having 'people who do not pay
on the network', we *DO* pay!  We pay Vonage each month. 

And that is the beef the authorities have now. Gradually fewer and
fewer calls (of the no-good citizens they wish to track) will ever
reach the network, making tracking them nearly impossible unless one
bunch of public servants (justice, FBI, etc) can convince another
bunch of the public servants (FCC, various regulators) that Vonage and
other VOIP connections have to be treated like 'regular' telephones.
(Oh, don't they just wish!) If they cannot get what they want by an
appeal to the regulators and they cannot get anywhere by appealing to
your sense of good citizenship and how the 911 funds are going to go
bankrupt, and how police will not be able to find the pervert who
raped your grandmother because the 911 PSAP database is all screwed up
since some bad citizens insist on using VOIP, then they will go to
Congress and the President and twist their arms for relief in the form
of laws, etc. You won't get away with it for very long.

But in the meantime, while they are still tolerating it, if you want
to try a month of Vonage as my gift to you, just write to me not-for
pub and request a Vonage e-coupon. You get a month of free service
(the second month) of whatever service plan you choose with no further
obligation. Just write and ask for it :  ptownson@telecom-digest.org .
or call my 'business office' at 620-402-0134 or 773-353-5067 whichever
is closest to you.  Vonage is very good about delivering your ATA box
promptly and getting you in business.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of Digital Epabx Compare to Hybrid Epabx
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:30:47 GMT


In article <telecom23.84.10@telecom-digest.org>, son_tha@yahoo.com 
says:

> Hello,

> I want to buy new Epabx system for my office. I need maximum 40
> extension & KTS.

> Can any one please tell me pros & cons of Digital Epabx compare to
> Hybrid Epabx.

> At present I have quote for Karel 40, Panasonic 1232, Matrix Eternity
> & Symense 48i.

> Which is advisable? 

Know what I like about the better digital systems? One pair. Hybrids
take at least two pairs and even some digital systems had phones that
were so power hungry that one of the pairs had to be power.

In the case of my dealings with the G3i the 8410's were one pair,
while the 7406D's were two pair. As for reliability -- the 7406D's had
it hands down.

------------------------------

From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Home Intercom Phone System With Cordless Phone?
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:31:40 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: XOme


Quoth Andrew Bell <andrewb314@yahoo.com> in news:telecom23.83.9@telecom-
digest.org:

> joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote about Home Intercom Phone
> System With Cordless Phone:

>> In light of the dicussion about a home phone system (2-4 lines, a
>> half-dozen extensions, perhaps) that offers intercom connections
>> between any two phones, I'm wondering:

>> Is there such a system that will work with a cordless phone?  The idea
>> is that the cordless phone could be one of the stations.

> Siemens makes a 2 line system (the 8825) that handles up to 8 cordless
> extensions from a single base.  The base is a fully functional station
> as well, with a built in 4 mailbox answering machine and
> auto-attendant.  It has full intercom between all handsets, conference
> calling, etc.

Has anyone here used the three-line Circle Communications 5.8 GHz
system Hello Direct is selling at
<http://hellodirect.com/catalog/Product.jhtml?CATID=15323&PRODID=19672>?

I may need to put WiFi in an office where I now use a KX-TG4000
system, and the systems will be incompatible with each other, living
in the same spectrum.  It would be nice to be able to stay with
cordless phones.


"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
causes me to tremble for the safety of my country ... corporations have
been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow,
and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign
by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is
aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham
Lincoln, to Col. William F. Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:38:38 GMT


In article <telecom23.83.12@telecom-digest.org>, epg1@comcast.net 
says:

> McWebber (mcwebber@my-deja.com) wrote:

>> Verizon recently caved and now allows DSL only subscriptions, so I'm
>> sure Qworst looked at that before making the decision.

> Can anyone provide details of DSL-only subscriptions through Verizon
> (in Eastern Massachusetts, if it matters)?  I would love to tell
> Comcast where to shove their overpriced service.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, if you think the telephone
> company is going to give you a better deal *and* stick to their word,
> you might need to review your premises. (in other words, think again.)
> PAT]

Somewhat true -- I was promised 1.5MBps service and got 760KBps but know 
what, it's as fast or faster in many cases than Cox own 2MBps service 
promise. 

just go to http://www.verizon.net and on that page I believe there's a 
script that will tell you if you qualify for DSL. 

** WARNING ** The folks at Verizon DSL are a little bit brain dead. I 
was told I was 27K feet from the CO when I know that's not the case. 
Turns out I'm actually 9K feet from the CO, or 1/3 the distance. 

Their records are notoriously bad. So don't accept a no answer without
first calling repair and asking them to run a loop length test. Then
call the Verizon DSL folks and explain that you called repair and they
verified the distance recorded in the Verizon DSL database is wrong.

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: ESPN Ends Ugly Fight With Cox Over Fees
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:39:59 GMT


In article <telecom23.83.2@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com says:

> By GARY GENTILE AP Business Writer

> LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Sports cable network ESPN has reached new
> agreements with two cable television systems, ending a particularly
> nasty dispute with Cox Communications that saw the launch of dueling
> Web sites and ad campaigns.

> The deal with Cox keeps ESPN and ESPN 2 on the extended basic tier
> level of cable service _ meaning it will be available to most Cox
> cable subscribers. Cox, in the face of what it said was unwarranted
> price increases by ESPN, had threatened to move the cable channels to
> a premium level of service.

> Also Thursday, ESPN announced it had a similar long-term deal with
> Charter Communications. In exchange for lower annual fee increases,
> Charter agreed to add three new services to its system.

> Specific terms of the new deals were not released, except that ESPN 
> confirmed the new annual price increases will be less than 20 percent.

> On its own Web site, Cox said the new deal called for an average rate
> increase of 7 percent per year.

I'm so glad I kicked Cox to the curb. It's nothing but increase after 
increase with them. 

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Hackers Conquer the Co-ax
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:42:10 GMT


In article <telecom23.83.15@telecom-digest.org>,
lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com says:

> Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> wrote:

>> The thing about cable vs. DSL is that the cable coming into your
>> home is a shared medium. On the cable side it looks like one big
>> Ethernet LAN even using CDMA/CD.

> Not quite.  Cable modems transmit and receive on completely different
> frequency bands, so it's not possible for one cable modem to receive
> another cable modem's transmissions.  And it isn't CSMA/CD: The CMTS
> (the head end) is the only thing that transmits on the downstream
> channel, so there's no need for access control.  The upstream channel
> is divided into slots that are scheduled by the CMTS (the schedule is
> broadcast on the downstream channel).  Slots are usually assigned to
> specific modems, so no other access control is needed.  CSMA/CD is
> only used when a slot is specifically assigned for it (mostly just for
> modems to announce themselves when they first boot, although it's may
> also be allowed for general transmissions when there's no pending
> traffic to be scheduled).

Ooops -- my bad. But there is in fact contention on the downstream side. 

In any case, overload a headend with nodes and watch what happens to 
cable modems. Performance drops like a rock. 

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    Circuit Court Upholds Do Not Call List; Telemarketers Appeal (Editor)
    MCI Commercial Actors Having Problems Getting Paid (Ray Normandeau)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Sammy@nospam.biz)
    Re: Cable and Satellite Have Blurred Difference Between Networks (Sobol)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Geoffrey Welsh)
    Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash (email@crazyhat.net)
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:11:44 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Federal Court Upholds Do Not Call List; Telemarketers Appeal


Consumers won a big victory this past week when the 10th U.S. Circuit
Court of Appeals dismissed claims that the list violates free speech
rights and is unfair to businesses. The appeals court said the
registry of more than 56 million phone numbers is a reasonable attempt
by the government to protect citizens' privacy.

"Just as a citizen/consumer can avoid unwanted door-to-door visits by
salesmen and peddlers by placing a 'No Solicitation' sign in a cons-
picuous, easy to view place in his front yard or on the door of his
home and be left alone, we believe this registry, along with technical
efforts by telephone companies such as denying 'blocked ID calls' from
telemarketers are quite lawful and consitutional. We are convinced
that the First Amendment does not prohibit the government from giving
consumers this option. The government does not require it, instead it
merely allows consumers to have a tool to refuse to listen."

Michael Powell, Chair of the Federal Communications Commission and his
counterpart at the Federal Trade Commission, Timothy Muris issued a
statement expressing their pleasure that "this popular program, like
America's dinner hour, will not be interuppted." 

The court did conclude however, that callers requesting charitable
contributions were not as troublesome and would be permitted to
continue their work. Likewise, said the court, "we are very reluctant
to intervene in what is considered to be political speech and will not
impose on political callers.

In its news report last week, the *Independence Reporter* added a
'side bar' telling people who wished to register their phone numbers
for the DNC list or who wished to register a complaint about a
violation could do so at http://www.donotcall.gov or by telephone at
1-888-382-1222. It also warned that "now that the rush from last
October is over" and the list is largely in place, each new implemen-
tation or addition to the DNC should occur more promptly; but you must
allow about 30 days for telemarketers to process additions, etc. It
also noted that the FTC administrators of the Do Not Call list would
be inclined to be lenient on 'first time' or 'rare' violations of the
registry for some unspecified period of time while telemarketers
'worked the bugs out of their systems'.

Telemarketers agreed, through their attornies to refrain from calling
people on the list while they continued to pursue further appeals to
the circuit court's ruling, and they vowed there would be further
appeals, as needed to the Supreme Court.

Patrick Townson

------------------------------

From: rayta@msn.com (Ray Normandeau)
Subject: MCI Commercial Actors Having Problems Getting Paid
Date: 21 Feb 2004 13:37:06 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


MSN addy is no good.

It is alleged that some NYC SAG actors, recently, may have in some
cases, been given bad checks for a SAG commercial done in October.
Others may have gotten no check at all.

SAG has been contacted. BUT I would like to know how many people have
been affected.

It is alleged that payroll compnay checks were sent to an office that
got SAG members the jobs. It is alleged that, the office claimed to be
an talent employment agency when in actuality, and under NYS law it
may not be licensed as such. It is further alleged, that without
authorization, said office diverted actors' pay checks to their own
bank account and that said office then wrote their own checks as
repayent for the diversion, and that those are the checks bouncing.

If you recently got a bad check for a late 2003 SAG job or have not
been paid for a late 2003 SAG job please send me details at:
BadCheck@BuzzNYC.us which is a temporary disposible addy.

I may be able to put you in touch with a SAG member who may also be a
possible victim.

UPDATE of Feb 20/2004: It is claimed that actors asking to see copies
of original checks with deduction stub for MCI commercial are told
that such is unavailable. Actors going to bank in person to cash check
from "agency" are told there is "insufficient funds" to cash check. No
one has seen copy of any checks from MCI itself.

------------------------------

From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:56:26 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Kyler Laird wrote:

> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
> company in the country.

> --kyler

Sorry, you are the one that is confused.  C.O.s have had non-dial-tone
loops for years, for burglar alarms, "hot lines," etc, you name it.
Dial tone is simply a switch service for dial customers to let them
know the switch is ready to receive pulse or DTMF customer signalling.
DSL requires nothing other than line voltage and a termination in the
C.O. to the ASDL equipment.

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Cable and Satellite Have Blurred Difference Between Networks
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:26:37 -0600


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
 
> FCC Commissioner Kevin Martin said he wants to allow subscribers to 
> pick and choose cable channels.

> http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200402201835_APO_V1388

It would be nice, but my old cable company and my current cable
company both gave me a box that allows me to password-protect channels
on an individual basis, so it's not a really big deal.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Sunday Independence Reporter noted 
that in a survey of area cable subscribers, most were unaware of how
to block channels at the local, or 'box' level. Some knew how to do
it, but many subscribers did not know it could be done 'locally' and
assumed it had to be done at the cable head end, and they had not
bothered to call and ask for it.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:31:25 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Scott Dorsey wrote:

> Microsoft has long had real problems playing with others in the same
> sandbox, and they persistently, repeatedly, constantly implement
> features with no thought whatsoever to security.

While true, the sadder (and more frightening) truth is that Microsoft
is better than most Windows software vendors.

> I mean, the whole notion of automatically executing a .exe file in a
> mail message being read?  What EVER possessed anyone to think that was
> a good idea?

Ponder Nick Landsberg's point about integration: Outlook Express is
integrated with Internet Explorer and uses its HTML rendering engine,
which is designed to execute Javascript, Java, ActiveX, and more.
Outlook is integrated with Office and uses Word's Rich Text Format
engine ... which also supports autoexec macros, inherited from Word
days.  Each of these components has questionable security security
decisions in itself, but combining them without an analysis of the
security implications -- which is probably impossible, since there may
be no security analysis of the components -- was asking for trouble.

> Most of these problems have been patched around, but there is only so
> much patching around you can do with a fundamentally flawed system.

 ... which implies that they would have to start from scratch, and
they're not going to do that as long as we keep paying them billions
for an overgrown bootloader.  But, in addition to design flaws,
security is compromised by bugs such as buffer overflows ... implying
that they would also have to write bug-free code -- at least in
certain modules -- and that, too, seems to be lost among software
developers these days.  I'm not even convinced that secure software
could be developed and sold at a price that would appeal to the mass
market.


Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
Commodore PET

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:49:36 -0700
From: <email@crazyhat.net>


In message <<telecom23.85.13@telecom-digest.org>> Tony P.
<kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> did ramble:

> The same is true of VoIP -- that call has to be routed through somewhere 
> -- and you can bet there's a way to monitor. Even though the main path is 
> over IP it eventually enters a switch somewhere that authenticates the 
> connection (Wouldn't do to have people who don't pay on the network!) 
> and then finds a path to the PSTN to route the call. 

No.  I have a Cisco ATA-186 here, if I were to make an IP call to
10.x.x.22 it would go over a VPN to my office, and connect me to my
boss.  There is no point where that could be effectively monitored
without physical access to one of the networks (on either side).

Sure, my ISP could be convinced to monitor my packets, but that wouldn't
help them break our VPN's encryption.

At no time would my call touch the PSTN in any way, shape or form.


Ah, the miracle mile, where value wears a neon sombrero and there's not a
single church or library to offend the eye.

------------------------------

From: notmyrealname@nospam.com
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:07:13 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, Dave, it also occurs to me
> that the present attacks on VOIP (Internet phone service) by 
> politicians and others also helps the FBI/Justice people who have a
> king-size grudge right now about how difficult it will be to trace
> or tap or bug telephone calls using this medium. Don't listen to that
> balogna about how the 'poor 911 tax will suffer so badly because of
> people getting into VOIP'. They've made more than enough money to 
> fund every 911 call center in the world many times over; that is, if
> they had spent the money properly, not misappropriated it or sqaundered
> it on other often times useless projects as part of the overall
> goal to have 'no servants left behind'. They just cannot stand having
> anything around they cannot have their hands in, can they?    PAT]

Pat, since you mention the FBI, have you seen this news?

"The former chief internal watchdog at the FBI has pleaded guilty to
sexually assaulting a 6-year-old girl and has admitted he had a
history of molesting other children before he joined the bureau for
what became a two-decade career. "

See the whole article at

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/sns-ap-fbi-child-molester,0,5538886.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

------------------------------

From: Susan <rkcarlton@aol.com>
Subject: Home Phone System: Talkswitch, KX-TD308 Alternative?
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:51:47 GMT


I currently use a Talkswitch and previously had a Panasonic 308 (and
still have all the handsets). My family is unhappy with the Talkswitch
since you have to memorize all the codes to make it perform the most
basic functions (I've tried countless ways to program the wireless
phones to make it easier, but nothing beats the simplicity of a hold
button that actually puts the phone on hold). Since I have a base
investment in the KX-TD, I could reacquire all the KSU equipment --
but it is expensive, and I have the same problem with the wireless
phones (unless I buy the very expensive Panasonic digital wireless).

Key needs beyond the usual are: one at home business, simplicity for
family and guests, intercom so you can tell someone to pick up the
phone without yelling, flexibility to mix wired and wireless.

Should I stick with the Talkswitch, reacquire the Panasonic -- or is
there a better option to consider?

Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: 22 Feb 2004 19:17:52 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Reliable, Quality Int'l LD Calling Card?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


Try Cognidial, also sold by Cognigen at ld.net.  I've had pretty
good luck with them, and their international rates look lower
than Accudial's.


Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner

"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.

------------------------------

From: Gary Breuckman <puma@catbox.com>
Subject: Re: Use a Multiline Phone in a Single-Line Jack
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:14:31 -0600
Organization: Puma's Lair - catbox.com


In article <telecom23.84.11@telecom-digest.org>, Jameson
<jameson_ray@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I was just given three GE 2-9405C phones. After doing some online
> research, I found that they must have two lines connected in one jack on
> the back to operate. They will not just operate on a single line (which
> is true, as I have tried it on the single-line jacks in my house).
> Because we don't have two phone lines, I would like to know if anyone
> has an idea on a way to make a custom cable, or buy an adaptor.

> Thanks in advance!

> -Jameson

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Often times telephone devices *will* work
> on one line but the pin out on the modular connecting cord is wrong. One
> line devices usually come only with a cord for 'one line' which is
> typically the red/green wires on the first and fourth pins (if they are
> present) in the modular cord. You might start by getting four wire
> modular cords, such as at Radio Shack. The two inner pins, which usually
> relate to the yellow/black wires make the 'second line' work.  Or if you
> get a six-wire cord, then the scheme is the two outermost pins (1 and 6
> are blue and white) the two middle pins (2 and five are black and
> yellow) and the two innermost pins (3 and 4 are green and red). If a
> cord like that fits into the base of your phone (so the pins on the cord
> touch the pins of the phone when it is plugged in) then your problem is
> mostly solved.

> If the phone(s) still do not work, look at the box on the wall where the
> wires come in and the modular cord plugs in. Assuming the wiring is sort
> of standard, the cover plate will have the red/green wires working but
> the yellow/black wires will either be tied on to two screws but doing
> nothing, or not tied down at all (sometimes). What you will want to do
> is 'trick the phone' into thinking it is being served on 'line two'
> instead of 'line one'. Swap out the red/green wires in the modular cord
> and attach them to the places where the black/yellow wires (that had
> been or would be) used for 'line two' if you had such a thing. In other
> words, take the live pair you do have coming in and make sure they are
> attached to the two center pins by the time it reaches the phone,
> typically yellow and black.

I'm confused, because all the single-line jacks I've seen use the two
center pins for line 1, which are red/green.

The cords are usually black-red-green-yellow, reversed to YGRB on the
opposite end.

Two-wire cords, which as you said come with some devices to avoid
problems, also use only the two center pins, red/green.

And yes, I've made special cords for two-line phones, split at the
wall end into two plugs for single jacks.  You can also buy plug-in
adapters that look like a modular T adapter but actually split out the
two lines to separate jacks and can be used to solve some of these
problems.

-- Gary Breuckman

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are right; I stand corrected. When
I wrote my original answer, I examined a 'specially built' modular
cord that had only the first and last pins it. After reading your
reply I sacrificed it and found red/green wires in the two middle
places (2 and 3) and yellow/black in the first and fourth places. 
Someone had diddled with it -- it became obvious someone had extracted
the two center pins in order to 'make it work' on some device or
another which had wanted the 'second line' only. Anyway, between you
and I, I hope we answered the man's inquiry; he has not written back.
PAT]

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From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Home Intercom Phone System With Cordless Phone?
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:23:48 -0500
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com


joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) posted on that vast internet
thingie:

> In light of the dicussion about a home phone system (2-4 lines, a
> half-dozen extensions, perhaps) that offers intercom connections
> between any two phones, I'm wondering:

> Is there such a system that will work with a cordless phone?  The idea
> is that the cordless phone could be one of the stations.

Have a look at the Panasonic KX-TG4000b. What range are you looking
for?

Another nice phone is the TMC ET-4000 for a wired installation 
that allows any single line cordless phone to be integrated
to the system with a module.  (We use the ET4000s here at SELLCOM
with the Motorola 5.8 phones with the cordless module.)

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> posted on that vast internet
thingie:

> I may need to put WiFi in an office where I now use a KX-TG4000
> system, and the systems will be incompatible with each other, living
> in the same spectrum.  It would be nice to be able to stay with
> cordless phones.

We have had people buy the KX-TG4000b because of its reputation
for co-existing comfortably with wireless lans.

If that doesn't work the TMC ET4000 is nice and was my pick for
use here at SELLCOM (with Motorola 5.8 cordless phones)

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Motorola Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus,
Talkswitch, Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge
protection. Minisplitter log splitter If you sit at a desk
www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I saw a really neat 'home brew' but
professional looking intercom built in a phone once several years
ago. They used a two-line turn button phone; the telephone (or c.o.
line) was on one side of the turn button with the red/green wires.
The other side of the turn button was the intercom which ran to
an office upstairs. Not everyone knows this, but those old turn
button, two line phones had a *third* position as well; the twist
button could be pressed down and released. Normally the blue/white
pair of wires was attached to that set of contacts, and use that
third position as a manual buzzer to notify the other station. The
blue/white pair normally was used as a bypass for the call 'on hold'
while the other side of the button was in a conversation. But you 
could just as easily use the blue/white to operate a buzzer at the
opposite end. If you had two actual phone pairs instead you had to
have a 'side ringer' for one of the two lines, since the same bell
could not be used to ring both lines (problems with the current in
the line.)  But if you were cheap and did not want to buy or (rent
 from telco) a second, side ringer for the other line, there were
also ways to wire the one existing ringer in the phone so that the
bell would ring for whichever line was in the *opposite position*
of the line you were using. (Harper Theatre in Hyde Park, Chicago,
773-BUTterfield 8-1717; the box office and the business office which
was upstairs). PAT]

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Spam Question
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:33:45 -0500
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com


OK, we all see the never ending spam promoting sites that are hosted
usually in China by way of cn.net or in Russia.  The spammers rape
ISPs all over with throw away accounts knowing that their foreign site
will be up long enough to make it worthwhile.

I don't believe it will ever stop until the big US enablers are held
responsible for that which they are enabling.  If the spam sites were
in the US would the US enablers not be held responsible?

Want to see spam stop?  Hold the US enablers of the foreign spam
websites liable and watch how quick the spam becomes unprofitable.

When you report spam to the uce@ftc.gov or wherever, also report the
US enabler who is providing connectivity to the USA for the spam site.


Steve at SELLCOM
(the opinions expressed here do not reflect the opinions of anyone
else at all; but they SHOULD!)

http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Motorola Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus,
Talkswitch, Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge
protection. Minisplitter log splitter If you sit at a desk
www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:35:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 87

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Book Review: A Photographic History of Ameritech (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Nick Landsberg)
    Re: The Virus Underground (Mark Crispin)
    Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL" (Tony P.)
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:57:22 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Book Review: A Photographic History of Ameritech


Did you know 'Ameritech' originally stood for
'(AM)erican (I)nformation (TECH)nologies, Inc.?  You will learn that 
and a lot more in a recent book "A Photographic History of Ameritech". 

Subtitled 'Snapshots in Time', this photgraphic essay of the companies
which make up the present day north-central region of SBC is a brilliant
presentation of how our past evolved into our present.

Written and compiled by William D. Caughlin, the manager of Ameritech
Corporate Archives, with co-authors Brian F. Coffey and Ilana N. Pergam,
this 200-page large size paperback book uses pictures to tell the story
of the history of telephone service from its beginning in 1876 through 
the end of 1999, when Ameritech (or Illinois Bell as most of us knew it)
became part of SBC, or what we knew as Southwestern Bell. 

When Alex Bell invented the telephone in March, 1876, many considered
it just a novelty, an electrical toy. Everyone -- at least all readers
of this Digest -- are aware of how Western Union essentially thumbed
its nose at the invention, a snub that about a century later would put
it out of business, along with email showing up a few years later. 

The Chicago Telephonic Exchange was founded on June 26, 1878 to serve
the needs of Chicago businessmen. When the general public also wanted
phone service, the Chicago Telephonic Exchange merged with a competitor
to form the Chicago Telephone Company, in business from 1881 through 
1920 to provide local service around the city. About the same time, 
(1883-1920) Central Union Telephone Company started offering service
in other parts of northern and central Illinois. 

Actually ahead of Chicago by about 9 months (it started in October,
1877) was the Michigan Telephone and Telegraph Construction Company,
which was the nation's first Bell Operating Company. Like Chicago,
their first interest was private line service for businesses, but on
August 5, 1878 the Detroit Telephonic Exchange opened for business.
During 1879, telephone exchanges were established in several towns
throughout Michigan, and after two years, in 1881, these various
Michigan exchanges were affiliated in the Michigan Bell Telephone
Company, and two years following that, in 1883 (through 1904) the
Michigan Telephone Company was formed. 

Then comes January, 1879 and the Columbus, Ohio Telephone Exchange. By
the end of 1879, there were cities all over Ohio with phone service.
It was about that time, that telephone switchboards were started.
In the earliest days telephones were all connected directly to each
other: in other words if company A had a phone and company B had a 
phone and Company C wanted to talk to A and B they had to have two
telephones, one each to A and B. Multiply that by the number of
companies in Chicago alone and you can see why the skies overhead were
black with telephone wires running in all directions. Most companies
had a phone to most other companies, so typically there were wires
running through the air everywhere. Ditto in Detroit, Cleveland and
elsewhere. 

In March, 1879, Ameritech's first predecessor in Indiana  -- the
Indiana District Telephone Company began operations in Indianapolis.
It eventually became part of the Central Union Telephone Company 
and had phone exchanges all over the state. Milwaukee's first
switchboard opened in 1879, and in July, 1882 (through 1983) the
Wisconsin Telephone Company was incorporated to serve that state. 

These five companies -- Central Union, Chicago Telephone, Cleveland
Telephone, Michigan Telephone and Wisconsin Telephone became known as
Associated Companies in the Bell System, and that is what this
photographic essay is all about: The 1876 through 1999 period as
those five companies were born, developed, merged then merged again
and (as Ameritech) had still another merger into Southwestern Bell
Telephone Company which then changed its name into SBC.

The rapid expansion of telephone service in those early years brought
with it the need for many skilled employees, especially operators. 
Although the first operators were young men, it soon became apparent
that the subscribers preferred women in this role. Women soon became
the switchboard operators, and men handled installation and maintain-
ence. But around 1972, the companies began once again employing young
men as operators in Directory Assistance and elsewhere. Page 139 in
this book shows a young man at work in Directory Assistance in Dayton, 
Ohio. 

Caughlin and his associates picked through nearly one hundred thousand
pictures in their archives and present several hundred of them in this
fascinating book along with some text to place all the pictures in
context. The book is broken into several parts, covering these periods
of time:

1876-1899  1900-1939  1940-1969  1970-1999 and in addition a section
is devoted to Ameritech's lineage. You may wish to order one or more
personal copies for your library.


 The SBC Archives and History Center is pleased to offer the book
 entitled, Snapshots in Time: A Photographic History of Ameritech.

 This 192-page soft-cover book chronicles the evolution of
 telecommunications in the SBC Midwest (former Ameritech) five-state
 region through select historical images.  It offers more than 225
 captioned photos of switchboard operators, crews with their vehicles
 and technicians testing central office equipment.  The book begins
 with an 1876 portrait of Alexander Graham Bell and ends in 1999, on
 the eve of the SBC/Ameritech merger.

 The cost for each book is $25.00, plus $4.95 for shipping.

 To order, fill out the form below.  If you have questions, please call
 Bill Caughlin at (210) 524-6192.  Or send him an e-mail at
 wc2942@sbc.com

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				7990 IH-10 West
				    Floor 1
			   San Antonio, Texas 78230

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This review will go in the Telecom 
Archives section on history for future reference. You may wish to
visit the history section in the archives http://telecom-digest.org
and check out several interesting files there about the history of
the telephone, etc.  I am in the process now of attempting to
establish an online museum of telephone history with pictures, etc.
I'll need readers help to do it however.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:22:49 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet



Geoffrey Welsh wrote:

> Scott Dorsey wrote:

>> Microsoft has long had real problems playing with others in the same
>> sandbox, and they persistently, repeatedly, constantly implement
>> features with no thought whatsoever to security.

> While true, the sadder (and more frightening) truth is that Microsoft
> is better than most Windows software vendors.

>> I mean, the whole notion of automatically executing a .exe file in a
>> mail message being read?  What EVER possessed anyone to think that was
>> a good idea?

> Ponder Nick Landsberg's point about integration: Outlook Express is
> integrated with Internet Explorer and uses its HTML rendering engine,
> which is designed to execute Javascript, Java, ActiveX, and more.
> Outlook is integrated with Office and uses Word's Rich Text Format
> engine ... which also supports autoexec macros, inherited from Word
> days.  Each of these components has questionable security security
> decisions in itself, but combining them without an analysis of the
> security implications -- which is probably impossible, since there may
> be no security analysis of the components -- was asking for trouble.

Thank you for the attribution :)  I believe it may be worse than
you mention above.  I had heard (but cannot attest to) that the
Internet Explorer rendering engine was used by the OS to actually
render the graphics for the whole display.  In the programming
industry, everyone is clamoring for code re-use, but what this
may be spawning is "bug re-use".  (Tongue only partially in cheek).
No wonder it takes such a long time to get a fix out.  There
scores of things which may break instead of being fixed.

>> Most of these problems have been patched around, but there is only so
>> much patching around you can do with a fundamentally flawed system.

>  ... which implies that they would have to start from scratch, and
> they're not going to do that as long as we keep paying them billions
> for an overgrown bootloader.  But, in addition to design flaws,
> security is compromised by bugs such as buffer overflows ... implying
> that they would also have to write bug-free code -- at least in
> certain modules -- and that, too, seems to be lost among software
> developers these days.  I'm not even convinced that secure software
> could be developed and sold at a price that would appeal to the mass
> market.

> Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
> Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
> Commodore PET

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Virus Underground
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:06:29 -0800
Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing


On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Geoffrey Welsh wrote:

>> I mean, the whole notion of automatically executing a .exe file in a
>> mail message being read?  What EVER possessed anyone to think that was
>> a good idea?

> Ponder Nick Landsberg's point about integration:

More to the point: at the time that Microsoft made this unfortunate 
decision, they were playing catch-up with existing software from other 
vendors.  Those of you who may not remember a time when the evil empire 
was not a significant Internet player may be surprised to learn that it 
was standard procedure in many MUAs to open an attachment by effectively 
double-clicking this.

This was not just in Windows 3.1 MUAs; it was also in Macintosh OS 7 and 
even some UNIX nascent GUI MUAs.  One UNIX MUA would happily untar an 
attached tarball in an email message, running tar as root!

Those of us who argued against this practice were, at the time, lonely 
voices in the wilderness.  Multi-media mail was the "way of the future" 
and those who argued security considerations were damned obstructionists 
who were to be ignored.

We are paying the price today for bad decisions made in the late 1980s and 
early 1990s.  The evil empire is by no means innocent; its mass 
distribution of vulnerable MUAs made it easier for attackers.  But their 
bad decision didn't arise in a vacuum.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc

Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:10:15 GMT


In article <telecom23.86.3@telecom-digest.org>, Sammy@nospam.biz says...

> Kyler Laird wrote:

>> Without dialtone, you don't have a connection in the C.O., no
>> connection -- no ADSL -- very simple. They are not going to provide
>> you with a free line to carry ADSL, neither will any other operating
>> company in the country.

>> --kyler

> Sorry, you are the one that is confused.  C.O.s have had non-dial-tone
> loops for years, for burglar alarms, "hot lines," etc, you name it.
> Dial tone is simply a switch service for dial customers to let them
> know the switch is ready to receive pulse or DTMF customer signalling.
> DSL requires nothing other than line voltage and a termination in the
> C.O. to the ASDL equipment.

The provider of the line voltage can be either the DSLAM or in most
cases, the CPE with regard to DSL. One of these days when I'm bored
I'll hook the scope up to the line jack on the DSL modem and see what
I get.

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Internet Phones, 911 Systems Could Clash
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:13:18 GMT


In article <telecom23.86.6@telecom-digest.org>, email@crazyhat.net 
says:

> In message <<telecom23.85.13@telecom-digest.org>> Tony P.
> <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> did ramble:

>> The same is true of VoIP -- that call has to be routed through
>> somewhere -- and you can bet there's a way to monitor. Even though
>> the main path is over IP it eventually enters a switch somewhere
>> that authenticates the connection (Wouldn't do to have people who
>> don't pay on the network!) and then finds a path to the PSTN to
>> route the call.

> No.  I have a Cisco ATA-186 here, if I were to make an IP call to
> 10.x.x.22 it would go over a VPN to my office, and connect me to my
> boss.  There is no point where that could be effectively monitored
> without physical access to one of the networks (on either side).

> Sure, my ISP could be convinced to monitor my packets, but that wouldn't
> help them break our VPN's encryption.

> At no time would my call touch the PSTN in any way, shape or form.

> Ah, the miracle mile, where value wears a neon sombrero and there's not a
> single church or library to offend the eye.

Ok -- on a pure IP to IP call yes. But doesn't the router do any kind
of authentication in order to verify you're a registered user of the
service?

If that's the case they know both your identity and your ISP. It's just 
one more layer of subpoenas that's all. 

The upshot is that all ISP's are going to have to open ports to law
enforcement over which voice traffic travels, and there will have to
be a backdoor into the encryption.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Who says ISP's are going to have to
open ports to law enforcement?  They would hope so!  And if they
*eventually* were forced in a court to do so, then what happens when
law enforcement discovers at that point all the traffic is encrypted
by the user's own standards for same? Is it then back to court to get
another subpoena to break into my encryption?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Scott Peterson <scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Question About 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/Antenna
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:37:12 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com


O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e*3@cox.net> wrote:

> My current setup is I have a Linksys WRT54G wireless router which
> supports B and G infrastructure.  I have a 802.11b Wireless PCI card
> in my PC.  In my condo, I can verify that the wireless portion of the
> network between the wireless router and my PC are functioning.  I then
> take my PC to another floor in my building, and I get little to no
> signal.  I would like to add either a signal booster and/or an antenna
> to make my network functional.

The first thing I'd try is to switch to a G card in your PC.  They
have much better range and penetration in buildings. You should have
several options for which channel to use.  Try several and see if one
is any better than the others. Also, when you do that, reconfigure
your router to G only.  Often when running mixed mode you don't get
the best throughput.


           
Scott Peterson

Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses.

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Telecom Update (Canada) #421, February 23, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Re: Home Phone System: Talkswitch, KX-TD 308 Alternative (Sellcom Tech)
    Re: Question About 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster (Tony P.)
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** Aliant Offers Wi-Fi Hotspots
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** Craig Refiles Suit Against Look, UBS
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TELUS APPEALS ARBITRATION RULING: Telus has asked the Canada
Industrial Relations Board to reconsider its decision directing the
company to offer binding arbitration to the Telecommunications Workers
Union. Telus has also appealed the CIRB ruling to the Federal
Court. (See Telecom Update #418)

MICROCELL RAISES $450 MILLION: Microcell Telecom has raised $450
million in bank financing. Microcell plans to use about $100 million
of the funds for new capital and general corporate expenses and the
rest to repay existing debts.

CIENA BUYS OTTAWA EQUIPMENT MAKER: Ciena Corp, a U.S.-based supplier
of carrier network equipment, has agreed to buy Catena Networks, which
makes gear used by carriers to supply broadband Internet access, for
US$486.7 million. Ciena says it will retain Catena's CEO and 230
Ottawa employees.

CINGULAR WINS BIDDING FOR AT&T WIRELESS: AT&T Wireless has agreed to
its purchase by Cingular Wireless, a joint venture of SBC and
BellSouth, for US$41 billion. Cingular beat out Vodaphone, which had
bid $38 billion. The merged company, which will be the largest
U.S. cellco, will hold AT&T's 33% stake in Rogers Wireless.

ROGERS LINKS WIRELESS MESSAGING TO COMPUTERS: Customers of Rogers AT&T
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computer-based text messaging. The software is from Zim, an Ottawa
company headed by Michael Cowpland.

ALIANT OFFERS WI-FI HOTSPOTS: Aliant has begun a six-month trial of
five Wi-Fi LAN Internet access sites, located in Halifax, St. John's,
Moncton, and Charlottetown. There is no charge for access.

ALLSTREAM PLANS JOB CUTS: According to published reports, Allstream
says it will cut 118 of its 4,000 staff positions across Canada in the
coming months.

CANADA PAYPHONE ACTIVATES 350 SITES: Canada Payphone Corporation has
completed purchase of the payphones, payphone sites, and supporting
hardware of failed supplier Global Access Communications. CPC has
reactivated 350 of these sites during the last three months.

CRAIG REFILES SUIT AGAINST LOOK, UBS: Craig Wireless International has
asked the Ontario Superior Court to reverse an agreement allowing
Unique Broadband Systems to take majority ownership of Look
Communications. The action replaces a suit filed and then withdrawn in
a Manitoba court. (See Telecom Update #395)

CRTC GRANTS SERVICE IMPROVEMENT RATE INCREASE: CRTC Telecom Decision
2004-9 permits Amtelecom to increase local rates in order to cover
Service Improvement Plan expenses, and instructs the telco to complete
these improvements by year- end 2005. The decision, which varies
Decision 2001-756 and Order 2002-230, affects several other small
telcos, including NorthernTel and O.N.Telcom.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-9.htm

CRTC DENIES TELEBEC CENTREX CHANGES: The CRTC has denied a Telebec
application to add features to its Centrex service and increase
discounts based on contract length, because Telebec's tariff notice
supplied no costing data.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Orders/2004/o2004-53.htm

INUKSHUK SUPPORTS WEB-BASED LEARNING: Inukshuk Internet, which holds
spectrum licences for MDS-based wireless Internet service, has
committed $700,000 for distance learning projects in Quebec. (See
Telecom Update #204, 226)

TELEHOP EXPANDS FLAT-RATE SERVICE: Customers of Telehop Communi-
cations' dial-around flat-rate LD service in Ontario can now
call the Montreal area for an additional $10/month.

MICROSOFT EXTENDS LINDOWS SUIT TO CANADA: Microsoft has asked an
Ottawa court for a trademark injunction against Lindows.com, a
distributor of the Linux operating system.  Microsoft, which has filed
similar suits in the U.S. and elsewhere, says Lindows' name infringes
on its Windows trade mark.

PRIMUS SALES INCREASE: Primus Telecom Canada reports 2003 revenue of
$299 million, a 16.5% increase over the previous year.

ROGERS RAISES US$750 MILLION: Rogers Wireless has raised US$750
million in debt, most of which will be used to retire previous debt
contracted at higher interest rates.

TELECOM SUPPLIERS RAISE NEW EQUITY:

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** Cygnal Technologies of Markham, Ontario, has raised $10
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From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Home Phone System: Talkswitch, KX-TD308 Alternative?
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:21:50 GMT


Susan <rkcarlton@aol.com> posted on that vast internet thingie:

> Key needs beyond the usual are: one at home business, simplicity for
> family and guests, intercom so you can tell someone to pick up the
> phone without yelling, flexibility to mix wired and wireless.

> Should I stick with the Talkswitch, reacquire the Panasonic -- or is
> there a better option to consider?

Well, the Talkswitch does have analog ports which can be "split" so
you could have a cordless phone and desk phones.  I believe that the
Talkswitch desk phones have programmable buttons that might fit your
needs.


Steve at SELLCOM
http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Motorola Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus,
Talkswitch, Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge
protection. Minisplitter log splitter If you sit at a desk
www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Question About 802.11g Wireless Router/Signal Booster/Antenna
Organization: ATCC
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 07:12:07 GMT


In article <telecom23.87.6@telecom-digest.org>,
scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com says:

> O K <o*k*o*r*k*i*e*3@cox.net> wrote:

>> My current setup is I have a Linksys WRT54G wireless router which
>> supports B and G infrastructure.  I have a 802.11b Wireless PCI card
>> in my PC.  In my condo, I can verify that the wireless portion of the
>> network between the wireless router and my PC are functioning.  I then
>> take my PC to another floor in my building, and I get little to no
>> signal.  I would like to add either a signal booster and/or an antenna
>> to make my network functional.

> The first thing I'd try is to switch to a G card in your PC.  They
> have much better range and penetration in buildings. You should have
> several options for which channel to use.  Try several and see if one
> is any better than the others. Also, when you do that, reconfigure
> your router to G only.  Often when running mixed mode you don't get
> the best throughput.

Feh -- I've dealt with a, b, and g cards and they all have the same
crappy propagation. It's a function of their frequency range. 
Frequency has an inverse relationship with distance. And at
higher frequencies the tendency toward multi-path interference
increases.

G cards just have slightly better sensitivity, that's all. 

------------------------------

From: shantanu_gupta2kplus2@yahoo.co.in (Shantanu Gupta)
Subject: Multiplexing And Framing?
Date: 23 Feb 2004 01:15:36 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi friends,

I'm building a project in which there are 4 channel RS422 data,20 DIPS
and one audio channel data coming continously.i.e. I have two separate
mux/dmux unit.Audio signal is uses for telephonic conversetion.

1 unit mux unit is connected to dmux of other side and vice
versa. Both unit seperated by distance sends data continuously.

RS422= 1920bytes/sec/channel
DIPS= 800bytes/sec
Audio= 8Kbytes/sec

Total frame size is 64 bits excluding HDLC frame tags.We are using
HDLC protocol for framing and error detection.How i mux & dmux data at
a same time so that data can not be missed(bandwidth?).I am using TDM
multiplexing.

Can I implement MUX by using Micro-controller, i.e by giving chip
selects for the inputs on time division basis.DMUX is implemented
inside the FPGA.

Please give me some idea how to multiplex all these data and how can
synchronize the HDLC frames.I'm using 16 MHz clock oscillator for
Micro-controller and 64 MHZ for the FPGA.

------------------------------

From: bruce_phipps@my-deja.com (bruce phipps)
Subject: Flexion X300 PABX
Date: 23 Feb 2004 03:29:48 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Anyone encountered the Flexion X300 BusinessGuardian unified messaging
voice/data PABX?

The firm went bust a couple of years ago, but I think there are still
units in the field in UK and USA.  Anyone supplying support for these?


Bruce

------------------------------

From: federico@highconnection.com.ar (Federico Perpere)
Subject: Papers on Incidence of Quality on Total Traffic
Date: 23 Feb 2004 08:56:01 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hola!

I'm looking for papers on how voice quality incides on average/total
duration of calls. I'm looking for guides on doing the tradeoff
between cheapness of routes and quality, to get the better profit.

Can somebody refer me to that?

Thanks,

Federico

------------------------------

From: William D. Caughlin <wc2942@sbc.com>
Subject: Author's Feedback on Book Review
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:13:49 -0600


Dear Patrick:

Many thanks for your splendid review.  It should spur a lot of
interest in the book published in September 1999.  We had already
received five prior orders because of your earlier mass e-mail.

I have two minor quibbles, though, about your review: (1) the book's
primary title is 'Snapshots in Time,' while the subtitle is 'A
Photographic History of Ameritech;' and (2) the official name of
Ameritech between 1983 and 1991 was American Information Technologies
Corporation.  There was no "Inc." in it.

Ameritech Corporation (the official name beginning in 1991) merged in
October 1999 with SBC Communications Inc. (the holding company
formerly known until 1995 as Southwestern Bell Corporation, or simply
SBC).  Southwestern Bell Telephone Company was just one of the many
subsidiaries of parent SBC.  Today, the former is called SBC
Southwest.

As part of the process to create a unified national brand, in December
2002, Ameritech became known as SBC Midwest and the former Illinois
Bell (a.k.a.  Ameritech Illinois) was rebranded as SBC Illinois.  At
the same time, the holding company Pacific Telesis Group (acquired by
SBC in April 1997) became SBC West.  And later, Southern New England
Telecommunications Corporation (acquired in October 1998), parent of
SNET, was simply renamed SBC East in January 2004.  In fact, the
former Bell Operating Companies in the 13 SBC states are now doing
business as: SBC California, SBC Connecticut, SBC Indiana, SBC
Missouri, SBC Texas, and so on.  Ours is a very complicated industry,
and so all the mergers and name changes tend to make things unclear.

Finally, I was the manager of the *former* Ameritech Corporate
Archives.  That entity moved in June 2002 from Chicago to San Antonio,
and is but one collection (out of five) in the present SBC Archives
and History Center.

Thank you again for sharing my book with your readers.  I hope they
will like it as much as you.

About your request (in private email), there is no unified source
regarding the history of exchange names in Chicago.  It would take
hours of painstaking research to piece the whole story together.  I
offered you photocopies of the exchange histories for NW Indiana to
answer some of your questions.  We have similar histories for the
Chicago exchanges -- Chicago-Edgewater, Chicago-Pullman,
Chicago-Yards, etc.  But these amount to hundreds of pages of
information from the 19th Century to roughly 1967 or so.  Do you want
me to photocopy these for you, so you can do the research?

Regarding our archival photos, we have digitized about 250 images (out
of 200,000), which are currently mounted on the SBC Archives and
History Center Intranet website, launched in December.  Pending legal
approval, we hope to make the site accessible to SBC retirees through
the retiree portal.  But reproduction of individual photos outside SBC
requires license agreements approved by the Legal Dept.  SBC doesn't
want its copyrighted photos ending up in uncontrolled ventures without
its permission.


William D. Caughlin
Corporate Archivist
SBC Archives and History Center
7990 IH-10 West, Floor 1
San Antonio, Texas 78230
Tel: (210) 524-6192
Fax: (210) 321-5577
E-mail: wc2942@sbc.com

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My thanks to Bill Caughlin for his
corrections as needed. And by copy of this note in his email, I
am advising him that **anything** he wants to share about the history
of the 'telephone company' in general, or SBC/Ameritech's role in 
such will be a welcome addition to our archives in the history files
at http://telecom-digest.org . And Bill, it won't be just me doing
research from whatever you send; it will be all the people who rely 
on our archives here as an FAQ on telephony or who search our
archives; on average, about eight thousand viewers day read the
web-based version of this Digest or explore our web site; many
additional thousands read the comp.dcom.telecom newsgroup on Usenet.

Readers, if you missed the last edition of the Digest and the review
of Caughlin's fine book and the order form which was included to 
get a personal copy, please see issue 87 from late Sunday night/early
Monday morning.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:09:01 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: Share Day for February


We are at that time again -- once per month here, regardless of the
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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Vonage Troubles (John Schmerold)
    Ameritech Book Review (Charles G Gray)
    Verizon Land Line International Rates (Roman)
    VoIP and DTMF Decoding (John M.)
    Reciprocal Link Request (Mark Evans)
    Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law (Sammy@nospam.biz)
    Microsoft Goes Mobile With Openwave (Eric Friedebach)
    Share Day for February (TELECOM Digest Editor)

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:22:03 -0600
From: John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
Subject: Vonage Troubles


We've been using Vonage and find that 2 - 3 times per week we pick up
the phone and get dead air. When we call Vonage support during these
outages, there are no available support personell.

Internet connectivity is flawless during these outages (we have a 
lightly loaded T1.)

Anyone else having this problem?

Any suggestions?

Has anyone figured out a way to monitor remote Vonage boxes (we were
provided the Motorola VT1000 boxes) with What's Up Gold?  This would
be somewhat helpful if we could inform the users that there is a
problem.

TIA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have had the same problem in the
past, (short periods of no dial tone, otherwise good connectivity,
people calling in reach Voicemail (as though Vonage could not find
me; the phone never even rang, etc.) Vonage tech support offered me
this advice based on my Linksys router/firewall.

Go to the set up screen on the Linksys router. Select 'advanced
options' and then 'port forwarding'. Set up these three customized
applications:  TFTP from/to port 69 only, SIP  from 5060 to 5063,
RTP from 10,000 to 20,000.  Check the box for UDP protocol only,
forward all three of the above applications to whichever address 
applies in your case (for me it was 192.168.1.100) and check the box
to enable all three applications. Then of course, save your work.
According to tech support, that should end the occassional 'no dial
tone' problem, and the occassional 'Vonage cant find you' problem. 

Your mileage may vary, depending on the kind of firewall/router you
have. My Linksys firmware is 1.45.7, revision of July 31, 2003. I am
a little leary whenever anyone tells me to poke all those holes in 
my firewall, but according to tech support once again, as long as
you are routing it ONLY to the Vonage phone you should have no 
problems. If I wake up tomorrow to discover I was summarily raped
overnight and my protections all blown to pieces I will be certain
to tell everyone here about it.    PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Ameritech Book Review
From: Charles G Gray <graycg@okstate.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:34:02 -0600


Pat, I ordered my copy of the Ameritech "Snapshots in Time" book when
you ran the first item on it in the Digest.  I received it last
Friday, and I couldn't be happier with it.  As an example of its
thorough coverage, and demonstration of progress in the industry,
readers might want to compare the operator's "headset" from 1880 (page
14) with the "earbuds" of today.  The 1880 model was so heavy that it
had to be supported by a shoulder harness.

Regards.

Charles G. Gray
Senior Lecturer, Telecommunications
Oklahoma State University - Tulsa
(918)594-8433


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, that was pretty wild. Then the
picture of the young dude with a Plantronics 'licorice stick' tube
coming down to his mouth and a rubber tip in his ear was also pretty
wild. Changes made in the industry over the decades have been pretty
hard to believe.  I first got one of those Plantronic rubber tips
which just sit in your ear (I think the way it works on talking is
it just hears the bones in your head rattling as you talk) in 1972
when I was working the midnight shift in Amoco Credit Card Sales
Authorization. They were pretty nifty. I wish I had another one now
in place of my 'more conventional' headphones. Anyone have a spare 
one they will send me?    PAT]

------------------------------

From: rnadgor@email.com (Roman)
Subject: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: 23 Feb 2004 13:42:04 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


To make a long story short: My girlfriend is in Spain for the
semester, and I have a Verizon landline in my house. I went on their
website to see how much it would cost to call, and it said $0.10 a
minute and a $4 fee. Sounded very cheap to me, so I made several hours
of phone calls. I got my bill yesterday: $630. Called Verizon. They
told me that I needed to call them and agree to pay the $4 to activate
the international calling for that price. Since I did not, I was
charged $3.09 a minute. They refused to charge me the $4 and then how
much I would have paid, saying it was my fault I didn't pay the $4
even though on their website there is no mention of calling them to
pay it or that there is a different rate if you don't pay it etc ...

Has anyone had this problem or know a way to get out of it / convince
them that they should charge me the price it would have been had it
been $4. I'm a poor college student who simply can't afford that type
of payment. I have no idea what to do.

Thanks.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  Maybe an appeal to the chairman's 
office would work. It has for me a couple times. Or else filing a
commission complaint. But really, what made you think they would
automatically know of your intentions and put you on the $4 plan?
For them to do that without your okay is also illegal; it is known
as 'cramming'.  This really isn't Verizon's fault at all; try again
tomorrow with a different rep and see if she will help you before 
you go the appeals route. If you get out of this mess in one piece,
start reading their advertising more closely, and *always* tell the
business office your intentions before you make calls like this.
PAT]

------------------------------

From: john@totalb.com (John M.)
Subject: VoIP and DTMF Decoding
Date: 23 Feb 2004 15:58:55 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I plan to implement an IVR solution using VoIP.

A VoIP gateway/router connects my telco voice circuits to the local
Ethernet LAN using G.711 and my app server is simply a Linux box on
the LAN that acts as a VoIP termination device via the Ethernet.

My app will answer a call, play an audio prompt, receive a touchtone
DTMF reply, and then stream the selected pre-recorded audio program.

I have one question: Does VoIP have DTMF decoding built-in to the
protocol? Or would my app server have to decode the raw PCM digital 
audio in order to detect the touch tones?

Any advice appreciated. THANKS!

------------------------------

From: Mark Evans <jmevans1@comcast.net>
Subject: Reciprocal Link Request
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:18:00 -0800


Hi Patrick, 

I enjoy using your website often for research and vendor information.
I would like to see if you would entertain having a reciprocal link
to my site? I would like to place your link at:
http://www.bottaboom.com/phonelinks.htm 

I believe my visitors could benefit from the information contained at
your site.  My homepage is http://www.bottaboom.com

<http://www.bottaboom.com/> Thanks for your consideration. 


J. Mark Evans
President
Bottaboom.com
Ph:   520-572-1772
Fax: 520-572-6404

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, there is a mention of your web
site, and I hope people use your service and enjoy it.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 05:49:23 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Mike wrote:

> I registered on that Do Not Call list back when it first came out.
> When it went into affect we stopped receiving all those annoying
> telemarketing phone calls. But ever since that new law came out that
> requires telemarketers to display info on the caller id, we've been
> getting about 3 "out of area" calls everyday at the same times they
> used to call.

What law requires telemarketers to deliver Caller ID?

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Microsoft Goes Mobile With Openwave
Date: 24 Feb 2004 10:58:11 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aude Lagorce, 02.24.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - Microsoft's aggressive foray into the mobile phone business
gathered steam when the software giant announced an agreement with
mobile software maker Openwave Systems to bring MSN Mobile services to
wireless operators and handset vendors worldwide.

Today's announcement, which comes just a few months after Microsoft
struck a partnership with Motorola to produce a wireless phone that
runs its Windows Mobile software, indicates that the world's biggest
software concern is determined to pursue its push into the phone
business.

By embedding MSN Mobile within Openwave's Phone Suite Version 7,
Microsoft wants to make it easy for operators and handset
manufacturers to quickly deliver phones able to provide access to the
MSN services, including Hotmail e-mail and also MSN Messenger, an
instant-message service used by 110 million subscribers. The Openwave
announcement is Microsoft's riposte to rival AOL, a Time Warner unit
whose Instant Messenger already is available on several mass-market
phones.

http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/2004/02/24/cx_al_0224microsoft.html

Eric Friedebach
/Mortgage your Viagra!/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:09:01 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Share Day for February


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    Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Payphones (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law (Joe Morris)
    Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law (Paul Vader)
    Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law (Bob Snyder)
    Federal Law, was Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law (Danny Burstein)
    Re: Vonage Troubles (William Van Hefner)
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:33:16 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones


Sixteen years ago, in January, 1988, John Levine and other
participants here including myself got into a discussion of
'Enterprise' phone numbers, the pre-1970 forerunner to what
are now toll-free 800 numbers. In the 1960's we never expected
reverse-charge toll free to ever be automated, and we certainly
had no inkling that the assigned numbering space (code 800) would
ever be expanded several times over with 888,877, 866, etc.  As that
discussion was concluding, we got into talking about the old 
fashioned three slot coin phones and how guys would abuse them to
re-use their money when making calls.  Let's join that conversation
in progress as we analyzed coin phone numbers and the methodology
Bell used to process the calls, etc.


PAT


 Date: 7 Jan 88 22:39:45 GMT
 From: decvax!ima!johnl@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (John R. Levine)
 Organization: Not enough to make any difference
 Subject: Re: Enterprise Numbers and other funny phone numbers


In article <2257@cup.portal.com> Patrick_A_Townson@cup.portal.com writes:

> OTHER MORE OR LESS STANDARDIZED PHONE NUMBERS IN THE 1930'S - 1950'S:
> ...
> Coin phones always began with a 9, as in 9xxx. This was universally
> recognized ...

Well, not quite universally. My phone number is -9650 and as far as I
can tell hasn't been changed since the house got dial service, other
than changing the prefix from UNIversity to the equivalent 864. (I'm
not that old, but the number came with the house.) I note that -9649
is indeed a payphone in a nearby bar. -9950 used to be the local
business office, causing a certain number of strange calls.

My understanding is that they put special relays on pay phone lines
that bounced when they connected, making a distinctive ticky-ticky
sound that the operator could recognize.

For that matter, when you make a toll call from a payphone, how does
the long distance company know that it's a payphone? Special trunks?
Special bits in ANI messages? Only AT&T does anything interesting with
direct dialed calls from payphones, but the other LD companies at
least know to block them.

John Levine, ima!johnl

John R. Levine, IECC, PO Box 349, Cambridge MA 02238-0349, +1 617 492 3869
{ ihnp4 | decvax | cbosgd | harvard | yale }!ima!johnl, Levine@YALE.
something  Gary Hart for President -- Let's win one for the zipper.

 Date: 8 Jan 88 05:32:22 GMT
 From: ptsfa!perl@ames.arpa  (R. Perlman)
 Organization: Pacific Bell Marketing
 Subject: Re: Enterprise Numbers and other funny phone numbers

In article <838@ima.ISC.COM> johnl@ima.UUCP (John R. Levine) writes:

> In article <2257@cup.portal.com> Patrick_A_Townson@cup.portal.com writes:

>> OTHER MORE OR LESS STANDARDIZED PHONE NUMBERS IN THE 1930'S - 1950'S:
>> ...
>> Coin phones always began with a 9, as in 9xxx. This was universally
>> recognized ...

> Well, not quite universally. My phone number is -9650 and as far as
> I can tell hasn't been changed since the house got dial service,
> other than changing the prefix from UNIversity to the equivalent
> 864.

Actually you are both right!  In step-by-step offices the 4 and 9
levels were ofter tied together when all line thousands groups were'nt
needed.  A non-coin would be assigned the number -4xxx and a coin
-9xxx, in fact it didn't matter whether you dialed a 4 or nine, you
get the same number.

BTW, Operators have listings by area code showing all the NNXs
(actualy NXXs) that have coin stations.  Usually only 1 code per CO
has coin lines.  If a number (for 3rd number or collect calling) is a
 -9xxx & is in a coin NNX then the Operator checks with Rate & Route
for a "coin check" to see if the number is indeed a coin box.

"there's no success like failure and failure's no success at all" Bob
Dylan Richard Perlman 1E300 2600 Camino Ramon, San Ramon, CA 94583
(415) 823-1398 uucp {ames,pyramid,ihnp4,lll-crg,dual}!ptsfa!perl ||
ceo rdperlman:8

 Date: 8 Jan 88 16:59:14 GMT
 From: codas!ablnc!maxwell@bikini.cis.ufl.edu  (Robert Maxwell)
 Organization: AT&T, Maitland, Florida
 Subject: Re: Enterprise Numbers and other funny phone numbers

>> Coin phones always began with a 9, as in 9xxx. This was universally
>> recognized ...
> Well, not quite universally. 

Back in the days before the TSPS operator positions, the operators had
an indexed list at their positions that they used for identifying area
codes that listed almost every city or exchange in the USA.  One of
items also listed in this index was the pay phone number series in any
exchange that used a special group of numbers. It has been a few years
since I last saw one, but I do remember the numbers for pay phones
could be anything from an exchange + 1 digit (ie: 321-9) to a group of
numbers (ie: 321-7800 to 321-8299). As I remember the instructions
with the list, this was a group to be checked for possible pay phone,
not necessarily an absolute list.

I don't consider myself very old, but I can remember when the phones were
so automatic, you didn't have to turn a dial or push buttons, you would
just speak the number you wanted into the mouthpiece and the connection
would be made. :-)
 
> For that matter, when you make a toll call from a payphone, how does
> the long distance company know that it's a payphone? Special trunks?
> Special bits in ANI messages? Only AT&T does anything interesting
> with direct dialed calls from payphones, but the other LD companies
> at least know to block them.
 
With ESS offices, the programming takes care of handling special needs
for a given line. It is reasonably simple to prevent charging LD calls
to a given line, no matter which company you use for LD. The same
basic technique that gives you 1+ dialing to your LD company can
control how the calls are accepted from a pay phone.

Bob Maxwell	AT&T DP&CT	     |	All standard (and most non_standard)
Maitland, FL	ihnp4!ablnc!maxwell  |  disclaimers apply.

 Date: 12 Jan 88 06:43:03 GMT
 From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!Patrick_A_Townson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
 Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 Subject: Re: Enterprise Numbers and other funny phone numbers

Perlman points out a method of detecting coin service which is
correct.  If in fact the receiving number is coin; and if the caller
insists on making the call collect, and provided some fool on the
receiving end agrees to accept the collect call then he has to deposit
the money as if he were making the call. The only problem is, the
distant operator cannot supervise the collection properly. The
operator tells called party to hang up and wait a minute ... she calls
inward in the city in particular, and asks for assistance from a local
operator <in that town> in manipulating the coin collection table;
assistance in dumping the coins in the box, collecting for overtime,
etc. The local operator calls the coin box, gets the money and
connects the parties.

Does anyone on here remember when coin phones had <three slots> on the
top for nickles, dimes and quarters AND had no trap door on the coin
return AND had regular -- not armored -- cable to the handset?

As little kids we rarely paid for calls. We either applied ground to
the line through a tiny pin hole in the handset cord (which we put
there, of course) or we used a coat hanger bent in a funny way which
we stuck up the coin return. We would deposit the money which fell on
the table inside. The process was the operator would apply the tip and
ring one way to throw the table and toss the money in the box or would
apply it in reverse to throw the table in the direction of the return
slot, to give the money back if there was no answer, etc.

To make long distance calls, we would use the same quarter(s) over and
over. The operator would ask for two dollars -- in would go two or three
quarters (clung clung clung) ..." just a minute operator, I am looking for
more change! ..." and that coat hanger would go up the return slot and
trip the table, sending our quarters down the chute and back to us ...
"Ok operator, here is the rest of the money ..." and if we were fast
enough, or the operator was not suspicious, the coat hanger could be
used to retrieve the three quarters <a second time> ... some operators
immediatly collected when there was an answer, especially if they
suspected hanky panky on the other end ... some would not wait for the
full collection, but grab the coins as they came in, hitting that
ring key over and over knowing the brat-child on the other end of the
line had been thwarted in the process ...

Some of the older exchanges in downtown Chicago years ago had to have
the assistance of a special "trunk operator" to return the money if a
call was not complete. Your operator would give up on completing the
call and tell you to hold on ... after a few seconds and a click,
someone would answer "Wabash trunking" ... and your operator would say
something like "return on circuit 5096" ... and the phone would
clatter and your coins would fall back out to you. And there was also
(downtown) the Franklin Coin Central Office which handled nothing but
pay phones in the downtown area.
               --------------------------

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: (From 2004) Does the above all look like
Egyptian hieroglyphics to some of our younger readers? PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joe Morris <jcmorris@mitre.org>
Subject: Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:37:49 UTC
Organization: The MITRE Organization


Sammy@nospam.biz writes:

> Mike wrote:

>> I registered on that Do Not Call list back when it first came out.
>> When it went into affect we stopped receiving all those annoying
>> telemarketing phone calls. But ever since that new law came out that
>> requires telemarketers to display info on the caller id, we've been
>> getting about 3 "out of area" calls everyday at the same times they
>> used to call.

> What law requires telemarketers to deliver Caller ID?

Try the Code of Federal Regulations:
   16CFR310.4(a)(7) (FTC Telemarketer Sales Rules)
and
   47CFR64.1200 (FCC rules governing telemarketers).

The FTC announcement of the new rules can be found at

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/01/callerid.htm

Joe Morris

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:42:37 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


Sammy@nospam.biz writes:

>> requires telemarketers to display info on the caller id, we've been
>> getting about 3 "out of area" calls everyday at the same times they
>> used to call.

> What law requires telemarketers to deliver Caller ID?

The same law which established the national do not call list. The FCC
added several provisions onto the law concerning things it regulates,
and this was one of their rules. As of 01/29/2004, it's against the
law for a telemarketer to suppress caller-id, or have it show
incorrect information. 

* -- * PV something like badgers -- something like lizards -- and
something like corkscrews.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
From: Bob Snyder <rsnyder@toontown.erial.nj.us>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:16:26 -0500


Sammy@nospam.biz writes:

> Mike wrote:

> What law requires telemarketers to deliver Caller ID?

47 C.F.R.  Sec 64.1200

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/01/callerid.htm is the FTC's press release
about this change to the Telemarketing Sales Rule.

This (as all FTC rules) only apply if there is interstate trade going
on, so if it's all within one state, these rules may not apply. Note
that a number of states have enacted laws/regulations where
telemarkets must at least respect the FTC's Do Not Call list.

Also, the FTC is proposing to reduce the time telemarketers have to
check the Do Not Call list from once a quarter to every 30 days. See
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/02/040210tsrnpr.htm for details. The
comment period ends Feb 26, which may be in the past by the time this
gets out.

Bob

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Federal Law, was Re: "Out of Area" Caller ID Law
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 05:48:35 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.89.6@telecom-digest.org> Sammy@nospam.biz writes:

> Mike wrote:

>> I registered on that Do Not Call list back when it first came out.
>> When it went into affect we stopped receiving all those annoying
>> telemarketing phone calls. But ever since that new law came out that
>> requires telemarketers to display info on the caller id, we've been
>> getting about 3 "out of area" calls everyday at the same times they
>> used to call.

> What law requires telemarketers to deliver Caller ID?

Someone posted the following to TELECOM Digest a few weeks ago:

 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:33:42 -0500
 Subject: No More Blank/Fake Caller ID For (Most) Telemarketers

Compliance on the Line: Telemarketers to Start Transmitting Caller ID
Information

Beginning January 29, 2004, telemarketers must transmit Caller ID
information in order to comply with the Federal Trade Commission's
Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR). This information will help consumers
choose which sales calls they want to take.

Telemarketers are required to transmit their telephone number, and if
possible, their name, to consumers' Caller ID services. 

[ snip ]

        http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/01/callerid.htm

Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

From: William Van Hefner <postmaster@thedigest.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:43:37 -0800


I've had the same problem myself. I have the sneaking suspicion that
Vonage only has so many ports that can operate at once, and that if
too many people are using the service, others aren't going to get a
dialtone. It's much like during an emergency (earthquake, tornado,
etc.) when everyone tries to pick up the phone and call at once, some
people won't be able to get a dialtone immediately. In Vonage's case,
I think that this is due to them overselling capacity. They probably
just don't have the capacity to handle the number of customers they
have at the moment, since they are expanding so rapidly.  Remember a
few years ago when AOL customers ranted because all of their dial-up
lines were constantly busy? This smells like the same type of
situation.

My own Vonage box (Cisco ATA) is plugged into a Linux router, which
flawlessly handles countless thousands of website requests each and
every day, which is plugged into an Adtran CSU/DSU and then a Cisco
router, which plugs into our T-1. We are nowhere near capacity on our
T-1, and have experienced maybe 10 minutes of downtime in the past
year. It definitely is not our equipment, nor the excellent T-1
service we receive from Sprint. It is definitely a "Vonage problem".

I will say this for Vonage. When it works, it WORKS. Call quality on
our T-1 is not telco quality. It is superior to telco quality. I have
also tried using Vonage on SDSL and a cable modem. I get quality
roughly equivalent to a cellphone using those. Anyone looking at using
SIP phone service right now might want to take a look at some of the
other players, until Vonage can get its act back together. 

iConnectHere.com is still catching up to Vonage, when it comes to
adding local phone numbers, but their rates are pretty good.  They've
been doing SIP for a lot longer than Vonage has, as well. If the
situation with Vonage gets much worse, I may consider giving them a
spin.


William Van Hefner
Editor - TheDigest.Com

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:22:03 -0600 John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
wrote about Vonage Troubles:

> We've been using Vonage and find that 2 - 3 times per week we pick up
> the phone and get dead air. When we call Vonage support during these
> outages, there are no available support personell.

> Internet connectivity is flawless during these outages (we have a
> lightly loaded T1.)

> Anyone else having this problem?

> Any suggestions?

> Has anyone figured out a way to monitor remote Vonage boxes (we were
> provided the Motorola VT1000 boxes) with What's Up Gold?  This would
> be somewhat helpful if we could inform the users that there is a
> problem.

> TIA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: After following the tech advice given
to me by Vonage last night, nothing -- thus far -- has broken down
or gone wrong here; the firewall is not leaking as of yet so I am
going to again suggest the mods the tech told me about Vonage and
Linksys firewalls to eliminate (supposedly all) of that problem of
periodic no-Vonage dial tone and Vonage unable-to-locate user for
incoming call: Implement the 'punctures' in your firewall as was
described in issue 89 on this topic. Let Vonage and me know if it
works for you as well.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Organization: ATCC
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:31:12 GMT


In article <telecom23.89.3@telecom-digest.org>, rnadgor@email.com
says:

> To make a long story short: My girlfriend is in Spain for the
> semester, and I have a Verizon landline in my house. I went on their
> website to see how much it would cost to call, and it said $0.10 a
> minute and a $4 fee. Sounded very cheap to me, so I made several hours
> of phone calls. I got my bill yesterday: $630. Called Verizon. They
> told me that I needed to call them and agree to pay the $4 to activate
> the international calling for that price. Since I did not, I was
> charged $3.09 a minute. They refused to charge me the $4 and then how
> much I would have paid, saying it was my fault I didn't pay the $4
> even though on their website there is no mention of calling them to
> pay it or that there is a different rate if you don't pay it etc ...

> Has anyone had this problem or know a way to get out of it / convince
> them that they should charge me the price it would have been had it
> been $4. I'm a poor college student who simply can't afford that type
> of payment. I have no idea what to do.

To hell with Verizon LD to Europe. USADataNet has connectivity to most 
major European nations for .08 a minute and there's no call setup fee. 
 
> Thanks.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  Maybe an appeal to the chairman's 
> office would work. It has for me a couple times. Or else filing a
> commission complaint. But really, what made you think they would
> automatically know of your intentions and put you on the $4 plan?
> For them to do that without your okay is also illegal; it is known
> as 'cramming'.  This really isn't Verizon's fault at all; try again
> tomorrow with a different rep and see if she will help you before 
> you go the appeals route. If you get out of this mess in one piece,
> start reading their advertising more closely, and *always* tell the
> business office your intentions before you make calls like this.
> PAT]

Policies like these are predatory on the part of AT&T. No wonder 
they're doing so badly. It looks like they took a few pages from the MCI 
playbook. 

------------------------------

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    Book Review: Developing Secure Distributed Systems with CORBA (R Slade)
    Sony Demonstrates It's 'Like No Other' With New Products (Monty Solomon)
    Control Your Webcam With Your Cellphone (Eagletron Inc.)
    Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates (John R. Levine)
    Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates (Ray Normandeau)
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From: Rob Slade <rslade@sprint.ca>
Organization: Vancouver Institute for Research into User 
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:32:10 -0800
Subject: Book Review: Developing Secure Distributed Systems With CORBA


BKDSDSCO.RVW   20031201

"Developing Secure Distributed Systems with CORBA", Ulrich Lang/Rudolf
Schreiner, 2002, 1-58053-295-0, U$69.00/C$106.95
%A   Ulrich Lang
%A   Rudolf Schreiner
%C   685 Canton St., Norwood, MA   02062
%D   2002
%G   1-58053-295-0
%I   Artech House/Horizon
%O   U$69.00/C$106.95 617-769-9750 800-225-9977 fax: +1-617-769-6334
%O   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580532950/robsladesinterne
     http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580532950/robsladesinte-21
%O   http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580532950/robsladesin03-20
%P   308 p.
%T   "Developing Secure Distributed Systems with CORBA"

Chapter one is an introduction, but it very quickly gets into CORBA
(Common Object Request Broker Architecture) jargon, and C++ API calls.
The explanations could be written with more clarity for outsiders.
Security is first defined, in chapter two, in terms of restricting
access, but the authors are not clear about whether they are primarily
concerned with integrity or confidentiality.  The material then goes
on to a good overview of security management basics and a very brief
outline of some security concerns in the CORBA environment.  The lead-
in to the CORBA security architecture, in chapter three, is a lengthy
discussion of the benefits of flexibility, abstraction, and
simplicity: the authors then note that the CORBA architecture is not
simple.  MICO, an open source CORBA compliant object request broker,
has a security component (MICOsec), and chapter four is dedicated
mostly to installation instructions.  Chapter five looks at
programming CORBA level one security, using MICOsec and C++, while
chapter six takes a longer look at the more complex level two
requirements.  CORBA security does have support for applications that
do not contain any security provisions (a rather interesting concept),
and these are reviewed in chapter seven.

CORBA security is not widely understood, and this work can assist both
those needing a conceptual idea of the system and those needing to
program with it.

copyright Robert M. Slade, 2003   BKDSDSCO.RVW   20031201


======================  (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)
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------------------------------

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:44:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Sony Demonstrates It's 'Like No Other' With New Products Open House


Highlights Include HDTVs Designed to Comply with CableLabs(R)
CableCARD(TM) Technology, Plus New Portable Audio and Digital Imaging
Products

PARK RIDGE, N.J., Feb. 25 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Reinforcing the
depth and durability of its "Like No Other(TM)" marketing mantra, Sony
Electronics today spotlighted its latest new products and technologies
at a press briefing during its annual Open House event for the
nation's consumer electronics retailers.

Whether it's the industry's most comprehensive line of integrated HDTV
televisions designed to comply with CableLabs(R) CableCARD(TM)
technology; new high-definition digital cable receiver/hard disc
recorders; eye-opening portable audio products in the PSYC(R), S2(R)
and Street Style(R) lines; or new intelligent digital imaging
products, Sony again displayed its ability to combine its signature
design with innovative technologies geared toward providing both
simplicity and enhanced entertainment value to consumers.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40686393

------------------------------

From: sales@eagletron.com (Eagletron Inc.)
Subject: Control Your Webcam With Your Cellphone
Date: 25 Feb 2004 18:21:34 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


We have just released TrackerCam 5.1 which adds WML and i-mode support
for viewing your webcam from Internet-enabled cell phones. This is
again a free download.

If your webcam is mounted on a TrackerPod, you can swivel it around
with your phone.

More info at 

http://www.trackercam.com

------------------------------

From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: 25 Feb 2004 22:01:20 -0500
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> To hell with Verizon LD to Europe. USADataNet has connectivity to most 
> major European nations for .08 a minute and there's no call setup fee. 

USA Datanet's rates aren't particularly low any more.

My Cognidial dialaround service charges 6.7 cpm.  If you're really
cheap and have a PC with a DSL or better connection and a headset,
net2phone's rate to Spain is 3.9 cpm.

------------------------------

From: rayta@msn.com (Ray Normandeau)
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: 26 Feb 2004 07:40:37 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.90.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> In article <telecom23.89.3@telecom-digest.org>, rnadgor@email.com
> says:

>> To make a long story short: My girlfriend is in Spain for the
>> semester, and I have a Verizon landline in my house. I went on their
>> website to see how much it would cost to call, and it said $0.10 a
>> minute and a $4 fee. Sounded very cheap to me, so I made several hours
>> of phone calls. I got my bill yesterday: $630. Called Verizon. They
>> told me that I needed to call them and agree to pay the $4 to activate
>> the international calling for that price. Since I did not, I was
>> charged $3.09 a minute. 

You musta meant 30.9 CPM!

Long Distance as low as 2.0 Cents Per Minute, no other fee.
Will work on cell phones! Fantastic international rates!
Spain: 4.5 CPM using 800# access  or $0.0250 using local dial-up access.
https://www.onesuite.com/ Promotion Code 034720367
gives you 20 free minutes.

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:11:18 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


William Van Hefner wrote:

> I've had the same problem myself. I have the sneaking suspicion that
> Vonage only has so many ports that can operate at once, and that if
> too many people are using the service, others aren't going to get a
> dialtone. It's much like during an emergency (earthquake, tornado,
> etc.) when everyone tries to pick up the phone and call at once, some
> people won't be able to get a dialtone immediately. In Vonage's case,
> I think that this is due to them overselling capacity. They probably
> just don't have the capacity to handle the number of customers they
> have at the moment, since they are expanding so rapidly.  Remember a
> few years ago when AOL customers ranted because all of their dial-up
> lines were constantly busy? This smells like the same type of
> situation.

If it is a case of "once in a while" we don't get no dial tone, then
it may be a case of nont doing proper traffic engineering.

Traditionally, there is something called an "Erlang Blocking Factor"
which is used to determine the number of resources required based on a
percentage of blocked calls.  This is based on the probability of call
arrivals within a time period and the expected holding time of the
calls.

For example, if you want to handle a base 100 simultaneous calls on
average and provide a level of service where 1% of the calls get
no-dial-tone, you would provide maybe 100 + x ports.  If you wanted
only 0.1% of the calls to get NDT, you would provide 100+y (where y>x)
and so forth.  If the base is 200, then both x and y are a smaller
percentage of the base number based on probability and statistics.

Note that the erlang factor is used for "normal" call arrival
distribution rates.  Once a special event occurs, like an earthquake
in San Francisco where everyone starts calling their relatives there,
these factors go out the window.

Thus, bad/no traffic engineering (or setting the factor to something
like 5%, i.e. 1 out of every 20 calls gets NDT) would account for
someone getting NDT 2-3 times a week.  It would not account for
conditions where there was NDT for prolonged periods unless you were
particularly unlucky, in which case you should sue Maxwell's Demon :)

(Oh, I'm sorry, Maxwell's Demon only applies to thermodynamics, but
his cousins probably haunt the phone networks :)

> My own Vonage box (Cisco ATA) is plugged into a Linux router, which
> flawlessly handles countless thousands of website requests each and
> every day, which is plugged into an Adtran CSU/DSU and then a Cisco
> router, which plugs into our T-1. We are nowhere near capacity on our
> T-1, and have experienced maybe 10 minutes of downtime in the past
> year. It definitely is not our equipment, nor the excellent T-1
> service we receive from Sprint. It is definitely a "Vonage problem".

> I will say this for Vonage. When it works, it WORKS. Call quality on
> our T-1 is not telco quality. It is superior to telco quality. I have
> also tried using Vonage on SDSL and a cable modem. I get quality
> roughly equivalent to a cellphone using those. Anyone looking at using
> SIP phone service right now might want to take a look at some of the
> other players, until Vonage can get its act back together. 

> iConnectHere.com is still catching up to Vonage, when it comes to
> adding local phone numbers, but their rates are pretty good.  They've
> been doing SIP for a lot longer than Vonage has, as well. If the
> situation with Vonage gets much worse, I may consider giving them a
> spin.

> William Van Hefner
> Editor - TheDigest.Com

> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:22:03 -0600 John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
> wrote about Vonage Troubles:

>> We've been using Vonage and find that 2 - 3 times per week we pick up
>> the phone and get dead air. When we call Vonage support during these
>> outages, there are no available support personell.

>> Internet connectivity is flawless during these outages (we have a
>> lightly loaded T1.)

>> Anyone else having this problem?

>> Any suggestions?

>> Has anyone figured out a way to monitor remote Vonage boxes (we were
>> provided the Motorola VT1000 boxes) with What's Up Gold?  This would
>> be somewhat helpful if we could inform the users that there is a
>> problem.

>> TIA

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: After following the tech advice given
> to me by Vonage last night, nothing -- thus far -- has broken down
> or gone wrong here; the firewall is not leaking as of yet so I am
> going to again suggest the mods the tech told me about Vonage and
> Linksys firewalls to eliminate (supposedly all) of that problem of
> periodic no-Vonage dial tone and Vonage unable-to-locate user for
> incoming call: Implement the 'punctures' in your firewall as was
> described in issue 89 on this topic. Let Vonage and me know if it
> works for you as well.  PAT]


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:31:42 -0600
From: John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles


I really want Vonage to work, however, I suspect William's hypothesis
is correct. We have the Motorola boxes outside the firewall, so there
no punctures that are needed.  In addition, each unit has its own IP
address.

It would be very helpful, if Vonage was forthcoming with utilization
statistics so we could determine where the real problem lies.  I have
not been able to get this level of assistance from them.  In addition,
it would be very helpful if we knew how to monitor the boxes so we
could perform some more tests & confirm that they are routing the
calls to our landline phones when there are outages. I may have some
time later this week to play with What's Up Gold to test the
connections.

> From: William Van Hefner <postmaster@thedigest.com>
> Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:43:37 -0800

> I've had the same problem myself. I have the sneaking suspicion that
> Vonage only has so many ports that can operate at once, and that if
> too many people are using the service, others aren't going to get a
> dialtone. It's much like during an emergency (earthquake, tornado,
> etc.) when everyone tries to pick up the phone and call at once, some
> people won't be able to get a dialtone immediately. In Vonage's case,
> I think that this is due to them overselling capacity. They probably
> just don't have the capacity to handle the number of customers they
> have at the moment, since they are expanding so rapidly.  Remember a
> few years ago when AOL customers ranted because all of their dial-up
> lines were constantly busy? This smells like the same type of
> situation.

> My own Vonage box (Cisco ATA) is plugged into a Linux router, which
> flawlessly handles countless thousands of website requests each and
> every day, which is plugged into an Adtran CSU/DSU and then a Cisco
> router, which plugs into our T-1. We are nowhere near capacity on our
> T-1, and have experienced maybe 10 minutes of downtime in the past
> year. It definitely is not our equipment, nor the excellent T-1
> service we receive from Sprint. It is definitely a "Vonage problem".

> I will say this for Vonage. When it works, it WORKS. Call quality on
> our T-1 is not telco quality. It is superior to telco quality. I have
> also tried using Vonage on SDSL and a cable modem. I get quality
> roughly equivalent to a cellphone using those. Anyone looking at using
> SIP phone service right now might want to take a look at some of the
> other players, until Vonage can get its act back together. 

> iConnectHere.com is still catching up to Vonage, when it comes to
> adding local phone numbers, but their rates are pretty good.  They've
> been doing SIP for a lot longer than Vonage has, as well. If the
> situation with Vonage gets much worse, I may consider giving them a
> spin.

> William Van Hefner
> Editor - TheDigest.Com

> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:22:03 -0600 John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
> wrote about Vonage Troubles:

>> We've been using Vonage and find that 2 - 3 times per week we pick up
>> the phone and get dead air. When we call Vonage support during these
>> outages, there are no available support personell.

>> Internet connectivity is flawless during these outages (we have a
>> lightly loaded T1.)

>> Anyone else having this problem?

>> Any suggestions?

>> Has anyone figured out a way to monitor remote Vonage boxes (we were
>> provided the Motorola VT1000 boxes) with What's Up Gold?  This would
>> be somewhat helpful if we could inform the users that there is a
>> problem.

>> TIA

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: After following the tech advice given
> to me by Vonage last night, nothing -- thus far -- has broken down
> or gone wrong here; the firewall is not leaking as of yet so I am
> going to again suggest the mods the tech told me about Vonage and
> Linksys firewalls to eliminate (supposedly all) of that problem of
> periodic no-Vonage dial tone and Vonage unable-to-locate user for
> incoming call: Implement the 'punctures' in your firewall as was
> described in issue 89 on this topic. Let Vonage and me know if it
> works for you as well.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:41:48 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


I've had Vonage for 11 months now, and have used it at two different
locations (Cable modem and DSL).

I lose dial tone occasionally and have found, every time, that if I
reboot the Cisco and perhaps the cable modem, it comes back just fine.

William Van Hefner wrote:

> I've had the same problem myself. I have the sneaking suspicion that
> Vonage only has so many ports that can operate at once, and that if
> too many people are using the service, others aren't going to get a
> dialtone. It's much like during an emergency (earthquake, tornado,
> etc.) when everyone tries to pick up the phone and call at once, some
> people won't be able to get a dialtone immediately. In Vonage's case,
> I think that this is due to them overselling capacity. They probably
> just don't have the capacity to handle the number of customers they
> have at the moment, since they are expanding so rapidly.  Remember a
> few years ago when AOL customers ranted because all of their dial-up
> lines were constantly busy? This smells like the same type of
> situation.

> My own Vonage box (Cisco ATA) is plugged into a Linux router, which
> flawlessly handles countless thousands of website requests each and
> every day, which is plugged into an Adtran CSU/DSU and then a Cisco
> router, which plugs into our T-1. We are nowhere near capacity on our
> T-1, and have experienced maybe 10 minutes of downtime in the past
> year. It definitely is not our equipment, nor the excellent T-1
> service we receive from Sprint. It is definitely a "Vonage problem".

> I will say this for Vonage. When it works, it WORKS. Call quality on
> our T-1 is not telco quality. It is superior to telco quality. I have
> also tried using Vonage on SDSL and a cable modem. I get quality
> roughly equivalent to a cellphone using those. Anyone looking at using
> SIP phone service right now might want to take a look at some of the
> other players, until Vonage can get its act back together.

> iConnectHere.com is still catching up to Vonage, when it comes to
> adding local phone numbers, but their rates are pretty good.  They've
> been doing SIP for a lot longer than Vonage has, as well. If the
> situation with Vonage gets much worse, I may consider giving them a
> spin.

> William Van Hefner
> Editor - TheDigest.Com

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:31:08 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

> Sixteen years ago, in January, 1988, John Levine and other
> participants here including myself got into a discussion of
> 'Enterprise' phone numbers, the pre-1970 forerunner to what
> are now toll-free 800 numbers. In the 1960's we never expected
> reverse-charge toll free to ever be automated, and we certainly
> had no inkling that the assigned numbering space (code 800) would
> ever be expanded several times over with 888,877, 866, etc.  As that
> discussion was concluding, we got into talking about the old 
> fashioned three slot coin phones and how guys would abuse them to
> re-use their money when making calls.  Let's join that conversation
> in progress as we analyzed coin phone numbers and the methodology
> Bell used to process the calls, etc.

[SNIP]

Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Pat.

Just to add a few things:

Part of the reasoning for putting lots of 9's and 0's on coin lines
was that they would not be called often.  Back in the days of rotary
dial, dialing a "9" would use up 9 times the time on the equipment as
a "1" .  Since coin lines were less likely to be dialed, they usually
got the high numbers.  As I remember it, businesses paid a premium for
numbers such as MU(rray Hill) 5-1000 because of all those zeros.
Nowadays it doesn't matter.

As to the coin slots.  Way back when, my frat house had a coin phone
in it.  We didn't do anything overtly illegal to it, but anyone who
used anything OTHER THAN NICKELS was a marked man.

You see, nickels use up more space per $$ than either dimes or
quarters. Using only nickels insured that the coin box filled up
faster.  Once the coin box was full, the phone would register the
nickles dropping down, but they would slide into the return chute.
You got to make your calls for free as soon as the coin box filled up.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:15:23 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Hi All...

Thanks to Pat for bringing up an item regarding three-slot coin
telephones, coin numbering assignments and other interesting stuff.
His article mentioned Enterprise numbers.

So now, someone, please enlighten us about the difference between
Enterprise and Zenith numbers.  I think they did more or less the same
thing -- acting like present-day Toll-Free numbers to allow callers
from one area to call without charge (usually) a business in another
place that is usually toll.  But why where there two "flavors"?  Was
one an interstate service while the other was intrastate?  Or did the
name of the service depend upon which Bell company was the service
provider?

And here's a couple of bonus questions ... Who can name all the 22
Operating Companies of the Bell System?  What was the name of the
metal recovery company the Bell System used to recover copper, lead
and other metals resulting from their disconnects?

Thanks, Pat!

Al

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: To answer your first question, Enterprise
and Zenith were the same thing basically; Bell used Enterprise and (I
think) the GTE and other 'independent' telephone companies used
Zenith. In either case they each had four trailing digits. Either they
could reverse-charge call other numbers on the same exchange only; or
other numbers in the same state; or other numbers only in *other*
states; or all numbers from anywhere, just as 800 numbers are handled
today. The operator had all the details on her flip chart for the
most commonly used Enterprise/Zenith numbers, other less well known
Enterprise/Zenith numbers had details on file at Rate & Route which
was 815+161 in Morris, Illinois most of the time, a function provided
for AT&T under contract with Illinois Bell. 

AT&T contracted out most of its smaller 'back office' functions such
as Rate & Route (to Illinois Bell), 'non-subscriber calling cards' (to
Cincinnati Bell); Separations and Settlements (to New York Telephone
and Pacific Telephone), etc. I hear your question: how could someone
who was NOT a subscriber to a *specific* telephone company (which we
know almost always meant X Bell and AT&T) have a calling card (or as
they called them in those days, credit cards)? Well there were the
military personnel on active duty; traveling salesman who always
stayed in various hotels, etc, but had no specific home base of
operations, and so forth. They all recieved 'non-sub' style credit 
cards from the phone company if they ask for one. And there were the
'special billing' style accounts, HUGE corporations and government
agencies where the bills were all handled from one or another central
location. Special billing style 'non (specific telco)-sub credit
cards' were handled on contract for AT&T by Southwestern Bell I 
think. 

I think also -- just cannot remember for sure -- that any police or
sheriffs who had a large enough coverage area that some of their
citizens would be required to call 'long distance' to reach the police
or sheriff (and for all offices of the FBI!) were given a Zenith 
number for their (out of toll free local calling area) citizens to
use. I did see a very ancient (1950-ish) phone book for here in 
Independence where the FBI (located in Wichita) was listed as 
'subscribers in Indpce and C'ville, ask Operator for Zenith xxxx'
Please note, even though this is a Southwestern Bell (and thus,
under the old system, AT&T) region those were cases where they used
Zenith instead of Enterprise. I think maybe the federal government
required the use of Zenith for their accounts, even though it was
ultimatly via Bell/AT&T. 

Please recall that the independent telcos (of which GTE (an amalga-
mation of other independent telcos) was the largest, originally
had refused to give in or 'sell out to the Bell' right after the
start of the 20th century largely because of Ted Vail's (original
AT&T's Chairman) tactics. Every one of them hated Bell with a passion,
but dealt with Ma Bell when they had to. They did their own thing,
but copied Bell business practices by and large. Thus the Zenith 
versus Enterprise label. They even formed their own national 
association (USITA - United States Independent Telephone Association) 
to act as a 'watchdog' on Bell.  Do times change? Well in the
last USITA national convention prior to divestiture (1981) the
principal speaker at USITA was none other than Charles Brown, AT&T
chairman, By then they had all gotten to be bosum buddies!  PAT]

------------------------------

From: brady47@bellsouth.net (Brad Wooddell)
Subject: Nexpath PBX BIOS Password
Date: 25 Feb 2004 10:45:18 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Does anyone here know what it might be?

Thanks!

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:25:12 -0800
From: Linc Madison <spamtrap@lincmad.com>
Reply-To: lincmad@suespammers.org
Organization: California resident; nospam; no unsolicited e-mail allowed


I can tell you from extensive personal experience that it is
absolutely pointless to send a bounce message to a spam.

First of all, as many people have pointed out, if you as an end-user
without control of the actual SMTP server are generating a bounce
message and sending it back up the pipe, there is very little chance
that it will ever go to the spammer. It will probably go either to a
non-working address, or, worse, to an innocent third party. I get a
lot of bounce messages on spams that I had nothing to do with sending.

Secondly, even if you have control of the SMTP server and can generate
the bounce in real time at the appropriate stage, it's still pointless.
Contrary to what some have suggested, though, spammers DO NOT ignore
bounce messages. They don't take you off their list because you bounced
a message; instead, they consider the bounce to be a request to re-send
the same spam message.

A few months ago, I moved my e-mail onto a server where I have
complete control of the SMTP connection. I discovered that if I reject
spam messages, the spammer simply tries again (and again and again and
again) from as many as 15 or 20 of the "zombie" machines that he
controls remotely, all within a matter of a minute or two. Several of
the recent major "e-mail viruses" have actually been designed to
create a network of compromised Microsoft Windows PCs, preferably with
DSL or cable modem connections, that will do the spammers' bidding.

What I do instead is to have my SMTP server *DISCARD* anything that
I'm reasonably certain is a spam message. The *ONLY* things I bounce
are messages that have some reasonable possibility of being honest
mistakes by legitimate correspondents. I have a list of over 4100
domains whose mail I discard, and several other kinds of filters. If
you connect to my server and claim that your machine is <hotmail.com>,
I check to see if you really are. If you aren't, you don't get a
bounce message -- in fact, you get a delivery confirmation. However,
your message only gets delivered to the electronic black hole.

Sending bounce messages to spammers, whether you do it at the "right"
time (during the original SMTP connection) or at the "wrong" time (any
time after that), is *AT* *BEST* a waste of your time.

Even with the spammers who actually <*gasp*> use their own servers and
tell the truth about their identities, still don't remove you from
their lists just because you bounce one message. That could easily be
a transient error, even if the rejection code unambiguously says "no
such user." Maybe if the number of bounces from your address reaches a
certain threshhold, they might throw you into a separate bin to try
again in a few days/weeks/months.

Spammers do not care if you don't want their messages. They also don't
care how much of other people's resources they waste trying to deliver
their spew. If they did care, they wouldn't be sending spam in the
first place.

I would, though, like to throw in a plug for an end-user spam
filtering product that I use. It's called *Spamfire*. It was
originally developed for Macintosh (OS 9 and OS X), but is now also
available for Windows XP. It uses a list of filters with positive or
negative points attached. If the accumulated score for a message
exceeds the threshhold value you specify, the message is tagged as
spam and dealt with accordingly. The developers, Matterform Software,
update the filters frequently, typically a couple of times a week at
least. In fact, one of the features of the program is a simple command
to report back to the developers any spam that slipped through the
filters. There is a certain amount of overhead involved, because your
legit messages end up getting downloaded twice, but you should notice
a dramatic decrease in the spam that actually reaches your inbox.

If you go here: <http://www.matterform.com/?affiliate=40&key=4747> you
can download a free trial version, and I get credit for referring you.

The other thing that EVERYONE should do to cut down on the spam
problem is to make sure that you have working anti-virus software with
up-to-date virus definitions files (often referred to as ".DAT"
files).  It's tricky, because many of the viruses try to disable the
most popular anti-virus programs, but connecting a PC -- especially a
Microsoft Windows PC -- to the Internet without solid anti-virus
protection makes you not only a danger to yourself, but also a menace
to the entire worldwide Internet community.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, California  *  lincmad@suespammers.org
All U.S. and California anti-spam laws apply, incl. CA BPC 17538.45(c)
This text constitutes actual notice as required in BPC 17538.45(f)(3).
DO NOT SEND UNSOLICITED E-MAIL TO THIS ADDRESS.  You have been warned.

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Walkie-Talkies Get A Makeover
Date: 26 Feb 2004 09:19:06 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aude Lagorce, 02.25.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - Six months ago, an application that allows cell phones to
morph into walkie-talkies was heralded as the next big thing in
wireless telephony. Suddenly the blue-collar feature was hip and
everyone had to have it--never mind that Nextel Communications phones
had been equipped with the technology for more than a decade.

Within three months of each other, Verizon Wireless, the mobile arm of
Verizon Communications, and Sprint PCS trumpeted the launch of their
own walkie-talkie features, respectively called "Push to Talk" and
"Ready Link." The services were rolled out with great pomp in the
fall. But since then, the two operators' chirping has gone almost
completely silent.

Walkie-talkies are not exactly the latest technology. But as Nextel
will attest, the oldest recipes sometimes make the best cakes. The
company may not have snazzy picture phones or a third-generation
network, but at $69 per month, it still boasts the highest revenue per
user in the industry.


http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/2004/02/25/cx_al_0225nextel.html

Eric Friedebach
/Mortgage your Viagra!/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Am I correct (at least in the case of
Nextel) as I was told this is not a true 'walkie talkie' function in
terms of using radio frequencies but merely a sort of fancy one-button
speed dial type thing? That is, you press the button and speak, but 
the delay in getting a response from the other end is because the
phone is silently setting up the call, ringing and getting the other
end to answer via the 'walkie talkie' function. I've never seen a 
small handheld radio that could get that far in its talking without
a lot of static and interference (which you don't hear on a Nextel at
least.)   PAT]

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Vonage Troubles (Rich Greenberg)
    Re: Vonage Troubles (Tony P.)
    Re: Vonage Troubles (John Schmerold)
    VoIP Phone (Brian E. Williams)
    Re: Walkie-Talkies Get A Makeover (Steven J. Sobol)
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From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
Date: 26 Feb 2004 14:32:58 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.91.8@telecom-digest.org>, <Sammy@nospam.biz>
wrote:

> I've had Vonage for 11 months now, and have used it at two different
> locations (Cable modem and DSL).

> I lose dial tone occasionally and have found, every time, that if I
> reboot the Cisco and perhaps the cable modem, it comes back just fine.

And if you do nothing but wait about the same length of time, does it
still come back?


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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
Organization: ATCC
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:34:16 GMT


In article <telecom23.91.8@telecom-digest.org>, Sammy@nospam.biz says:

> I've had Vonage for 11 months now, and have used it at two different
> locations (Cable modem and DSL).

> I lose dial tone occasionally and have found, every time, that if I
> reboot the Cisco and perhaps the cable modem, it comes back just fine.

Hmmm ... I really want to know more about how Vonage actually works. 

For instance, if it's just pure IP most of the time (which right now
it's not because eventually the call lands on a PSTN number) it should
work ALL the time.

The only reason I can see that rebooting everything would bring the
service back is because I note that cable providers of internet
service frequently loose DNS services.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:54:03 -0600
From: John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles


We spent the last 45 minutes off-line due to a "momentary server problem".

It sure would be nice if someone would offer a monitor service kind of
like DSLReports offers for ISPs, perhaps this would shame Vonage into
doing something.  Then again, we may need to go back to SBC ...

> From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
> Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
> Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:11:18 GMT
> Organization: AT&T Worldnet

> William Van Hefner wrote:

>> I've had the same problem myself. I have the sneaking suspicion that
>> Vonage only has so many ports that can operate at once, and that if
>> too many people are using the service, others aren't going to get a
>> dialtone. It's much like during an emergency (earthquake, tornado,
>> etc.) when everyone tries to pick up the phone and call at once, some
>> people won't be able to get a dialtone immediately. In Vonage's case,
>> I think that this is due to them overselling capacity. They probably
>> just don't have the capacity to handle the number of customers they
>> have at the moment, since they are expanding so rapidly.  Remember a
>> few years ago when AOL customers ranted because all of their dial-up
>> lines were constantly busy? This smells like the same type of
>> situation.

> If it is a case of "once in a while" we don't get no dial tone, then
> it may be a case of nont doing proper traffic engineering.

> Traditionally, there is something called an "Erlang Blocking Factor"
> which is used to determine the number of resources required based on a
> percentage of blocked calls.  This is based on the probability of call
> arrivals within a time period and the expected holding time of the
> calls.

> For example, if you want to handle a base 100 simultaneous calls on
> average and provide a level of service where 1% of the calls get
> no-dial-tone, you would provide maybe 100 + x ports.  If you wanted
> only 0.1% of the calls to get NDT, you would provide 100+y (where y>x)
> and so forth.  If the base is 200, then both x and y are a smaller
> percentage of the base number based on probability and statistics.

> Note that the erlang factor is used for "normal" call arrival
> distribution rates.  Once a special event occurs, like an earthquake
> in San Francisco where everyone starts calling their relatives there,
> these factors go out the window.

> Thus, bad/no traffic engineering (or setting the factor to something
> like 5%, i.e. 1 out of every 20 calls gets NDT) would account for
> someone getting NDT 2-3 times a week.  It would not account for
> conditions where there was NDT for prolonged periods unless you were
> particularly unlucky, in which case you should sue Maxwell's Demon :)

> (Oh, I'm sorry, Maxwell's Demon only applies to thermodynamics, but
> his cousins probably haunt the phone networks :)

>> My own Vonage box (Cisco ATA) is plugged into a Linux router, which
>> flawlessly handles countless thousands of website requests each and
>> every day, which is plugged into an Adtran CSU/DSU and then a Cisco
>> router, which plugs into our T-1. We are nowhere near capacity on our
>> T-1, and have experienced maybe 10 minutes of downtime in the past
>> year. It definitely is not our equipment, nor the excellent T-1
>> service we receive from Sprint. It is definitely a "Vonage problem".

>> I will say this for Vonage. When it works, it WORKS. Call quality on
>> our T-1 is not telco quality. It is superior to telco quality. I have
>> also tried using Vonage on SDSL and a cable modem. I get quality
>> roughly equivalent to a cellphone using those. Anyone looking at using
>> SIP phone service right now might want to take a look at some of the
>> other players, until Vonage can get its act back together. 

>> iConnectHere.com is still catching up to Vonage, when it comes to
>> adding local phone numbers, but their rates are pretty good.  They've
>> been doing SIP for a lot longer than Vonage has, as well. If the
>> situation with Vonage gets much worse, I may consider giving them a
>> spin.

>> William Van Hefner
>> Editor - TheDigest.Com

>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:22:03 -0600 John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
>> wrote about Vonage Troubles:

>>> We've been using Vonage and find that 2 - 3 times per week we pick up
>>> the phone and get dead air. When we call Vonage support during these
>>> outages, there are no available support personell.

>>> Internet connectivity is flawless during these outages (we have a
>>> lightly loaded T1.)
>>> Anyone else having this problem?

>>> Any suggestions?

>>> Has anyone figured out a way to monitor remote Vonage boxes (we were
>>> provided the Motorola VT1000 boxes) with What's Up Gold?  This would
>>> be somewhat helpful if we could inform the users that there is a
>>> problem.

>>> TIA

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: After following the tech advice given
>> to me by Vonage last night, nothing -- thus far -- has broken down
>> or gone wrong here; the firewall is not leaking as of yet so I am
>> going to again suggest the mods the tech told me about Vonage and
>> Linksys firewalls to eliminate (supposedly all) of that problem of
>> periodic no-Vonage dial tone and Vonage unable-to-locate user for
>> incoming call: Implement the 'punctures' in your firewall as was
>> described in issue 89 on this topic. Let Vonage and me know if it
>> works for you as well.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: sorry_no_email@yahoo.com (BrianEWilliams)
Subject: VoIP Phone
Date: 26 Feb 2004 13:42:24 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I am looking to add a second phone line to use in my home office.
Since the phone company charges a setup fee, and then every little
extra is more money, I thought I might use one of the new Voice over
IP phones/systems that are available.

I looked at Vonage (www.vonage.com), and the features are nice at a
decent price, but my home network makes it a little awkward.  The
cable modem is in my basement, which then feeds into a router that
feeds all the rooms.  Having the Vonage device in my home office means
that Vonage can't ensure service quality by prioritizing phone traffic
over other traffic.  Having the Vonage device in the basement doesn't
work at all.  If you are interested, here are some schematics:

http://www.vonage.com/installation_multiple.php

http://www.vonage.com/installation_multiple_alternate.php

Anyway, I thought there might be a phone that just plugs into my USB
port, which would be pretty slick if it works, although it means
leaving my computer on if I want to get calls.  Any suggestions?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you want to prioritize traffic to 
make the phone work better, then a USB port where it will be fighting
all the time with the other stuff (on that computer) is NOT the way to
go. And what does your *home office* have to do with it (as opposed
for example to an 'office' office? And why is the cable modem in the
basement? Or conversely why can't you use a somewhat longer ethernet
connection in order to put the Cisco ATA box (or whatever kind of
adapter you would get with Vonage) at some place that was more conven-
ient for you to use. And instead of running off that box a relatively
short distance to the nearest phone connection (which if it were in 
the basement would be more awkward for you) use the modular connecting
plug on the back of the ATA box to a spare addtional pair to your 
incoming phone terminal box, then tie that pair all around your house
so you used it at your convenience, as a line appearance on various phones. 

And there is a 'bandwidth adjustment' on the Vonage website which you
can reach from the Vonage dashboard. But it is confusing the way it
appears on your screen: Mine defaulted exactly in the center of the
gauge with 'more bandwith' being to the right and 'less bandwidth'
being to the left (on this slider thing which ran from 30 Kbs on the
left up to 120 Kbs on the right side.) People would complain they
could not hear/understand me, so I (I thought logically) kept cranking
the slider to the right: more bandwidth! More!  More!! But it just
kept getting worse. Then the Vonage people explained to me I had to 
move it to the *left*, not right. "Move it all the way to the left,
at 30 Kbs, reboot the Cisco ATA and wait a few minutes (like 15-20)
for everything to catch up you, then try it, and don't forget to 
install the TFTD and SIP things in your firewall." When I did all
that, and waited a few minutes for Vonage to 'catch up with me' it
all worked *much better*. 

Not certain it would work correctly, I put in a call to the one
chronic complainer I talk to a lot who *always* knows when I am on
Vonage 'because it always sounds so crappy' and even he this time 
said 'It sounds a lot better now, what did you do to it?' before I
told him I had done anything at all. He said that before I made the
adjustments Vonage gave me, whenever my weather station via the
Windows 95 would let loose with an FTP transfer to my display at
http://weatherforecast.us.tf or http://weatherforecast.n3.net it
would always blank out my voice talking on the Vonage. Now, he says,
it only ever so occassionally 'clips' a word here and there. Of 
course I am running not only the weather station and its camera to
the net, but also a camera view of my computer room all the time for
anyone who gets their kicks by spying on me http://patricktownson.us.tf  
so I do put a load on the cable, yet I do not have that much trouble
with it since I made the recommended (by Vonage) adjustments.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Walkie-Talkies Get A Makeover
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:43:00 -0600


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to Eric Friedebach
<friedebach@yahoo.com>:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Am I correct (at least in the case of
> Nextel) as I was told this is not a true 'walkie talkie' function in
> terms of using radio frequencies but merely a sort of fancy one-button
> speed dial type thing? That is, you press the button and speak, but 
> the delay in getting a response from the other end is because the
> phone is silently setting up the call, ringing and getting the other
> end to answer via the 'walkie talkie' function. I've never seen a 
> small handheld radio that could get that far in its talking without
> a lot of static and interference (which you don't hear on a Nextel at
> least.)   PAT]

Nextel's isn't. iDEN, the protocol they use, is a protocol that combines
SMR radio frequency usage (for the push-to-talk) and cellular usage.

Verizon and Sprint's are services that ride over IP technology, if I'm
remembering correctly. I don't think the call setup is the same as for
a cellular call. 

JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: Walkie-Talkies Get A Makeover
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:54:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Eric Friedebach wrote:

> Aude Lagorce, 02.25.04, Forbes.com

[SNIP]

> Walkie-talkies are not exactly the latest technology. But as Nextel
> will attest, the oldest recipes sometimes make the best cakes. The
> company may not have snazzy picture phones or a third-generation
> network, but at $69 per month, it still boasts the highest revenue per
> user in the industry.

[SNIP]

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Am I correct (at least in the case of
> Nextel) as I was told this is not a true 'walkie talkie' function in
> terms of using radio frequencies but merely a sort of fancy one-button
> speed dial type thing? That is, you press the button and speak, but 
> the delay in getting a response from the other end is because the
> phone is silently setting up the call, ringing and getting the other
> end to answer via the 'walkie talkie' function. I've never seen a 
> small handheld radio that could get that far in its talking without
> a lot of static and interference (which you don't hear on a Nextel at
> least.)   PAT]

As far as I know you are correct.  The same (or similar) kinds of
network databases are queried as for 800 calls.  Ring-tone back to the
caller is suppressed.

It IS just speed-dialing with a fancy name, conceptually.

(The above is based on one particular implementation with which I have
a passing familiarity.  It may or may not be that everyone uses a
similar implementation.)


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: brett@nemeroff.com (Brett)
Subject: Anyone Know of a ISDN/PRI or SIP to GR-303 'Converter' ??
Date: 26 Feb 2004 11:36:13 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi there,

I know this may seem silly, and I know it's much more complicated than
I'm making it, but here's my situation. I have a Sonus softswitch and
I want to provide GR-303 trunk groups. I'm not opposed to an external
solution, however I want to be able to provide service to traditional
GR-303 RDTs. Multiple groups are prefered.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Brett
Please reply to list or: brett+dated+1079033735.ccdfd2@nemeroff.com

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:44:33 -0600


Roman <rnadgor@email.com> wrote:

> To make a long story short: My girlfriend is in Spain for the
> semester, and I have a Verizon landline in my house. I went on their
> website to see how much it would cost to call, and it said $0.10 a
> minute and a $4 fee. Sounded very cheap to me, so I made several hours
> of phone calls. I got my bill yesterday: $630. Called Verizon. They
> told me that I needed to call them and agree to pay the $4 to activate
> the international calling for that price. Since I did not, I was
> charged $3.09 a minute. They refused to charge me the $4 and then how
> much I would have paid, saying it was my fault I didn't pay the $4
> even though on their website there is no mention of calling them to
> pay it or that there is a different rate if you don't pay it etc ...

> Has anyone had this problem or know a way to get out of it / convince
> them that they should charge me the price it would have been had it
> been $4. I'm a poor college student who simply can't afford that type
> of payment. I have no idea what to do.

File complaints with your state attorney general and public service/
public utilities commission.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Organization: ATCC
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:41:26 GMT


In article <telecom23.91.4@telecom-digest.org>, johnl@iecc.com says:

>> To hell with Verizon LD to Europe. USADataNet has connectivity to most 
>> major European nations for .08 a minute and there's no call setup fee. 

> USA Datanet's rates aren't particularly low any more.

> My Cognidial dialaround service charges 6.7 cpm.  If you're really
> cheap and have a PC with a DSL or better connection and a headset,
> net2phone's rate to Spain is 3.9 cpm.

In my case, my domestic calls constitute more than 98% of my calling
and I like the way USADatanet caps the max on the call depending on
the region, particularly considering most of my calls are on the
eastern seaboard .99 max region.

My rate for those calls effectively drops to .02 a minute or less. 

For international calls that usually last < 10 minutes the .08 a minute 
doesn't break the bank. 

------------------------------

From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:38:21 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.91.9@telecom-digest.org>, Nick Landsberg
<hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote:

> TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

>> Sixteen years ago, in January, 1988, John Levine and other
>> participants here including myself got into a discussion of
>> 'Enterprise' phone numbers, the pre-1970 forerunner to what
>> are now toll-free 800 numbers.

In Intermountain Bell land (a large part of the future USWest and then
Qwest) we didn't have Enterprise numbers, we had Zenith numbers.

> Part of the reasoning for putting lots of 9's and 0's on coin lines
> was that they would not be called often.  Back in the days of rotary
> dial, dialing a "9" would use up 9 times the time on the equipment as
> a "1" .  Since coin lines were less likely to be dialed, they usually
> got the high numbers.  As I remember it, businesses paid a premium for
> numbers such as MU(rray Hill) 5-1000 because of all those zeros.
> Nowadays it doesn't matter.

Here in the west the premium numbers were more likely to end in two or
three "1"s, e.g. MAin 4-8411.  Nobody had the patience to pull all
those zeros, so the highly valued numbers ended in the shortest
possible pulls.

Thousand-ending numbers were not very common in the areas I lived.

/JBL

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:43:12 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Al Gillis wrote:

> Hi All...

[SNIP]

> And here's a couple of bonus questions ... Who can name all the 22
> Operating Companies of the Bell System?  What was the name of the
> metal recovery company the Bell System used to recover copper, lead
> and other metals resulting from their disconnects?

I'm guessing about the ones with ? after them.

New England Telephone
New York Telephone
NJ Bell
Bell of PA

Chesapeake and Potomac of Virginia
C & P of DC
C & P of Maryland
C & P of W. Va.
(or were all of these considered one company?)

Diamond State Telephone
Southern Bell
South Central Bell

Illinois Bell
Indiana Bell
Michigan Bell
Ohio Bell?
(I think Cincinatti Bell was an independent,
but I'm not sure)
Wisconsin Bell?
Don't know about Minnesotta? :(

Southwest Bell
Pacific Tel and Tel (wonder if Nevada Bell
counts as a separate company?)

Mountain Bell
Northwest Bell.

Totally lost on which company served the great plains states.

And a portion of SNET (about 20%) was also owned
by AT&T, I think. (Southern New England Telephone)

and the answer to the bonus question is ...

Nassau Smelting!

> Thanks, Pat!

> Al

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: To answer your first question, Enterprise
> and Zenith were the same thing basically; Bell used Enterprise and (I
> think) the GTE and other 'independent' telephone companies used
> Zenith. In either case they each had four trailing digits. Either they
> could reverse-charge call other numbers on the same exchange only; or
> other numbers in the same state; or other numbers only in *other*
> states; or all numbers from anywhere, just as 800 numbers are handled
> today. The operator had all the details on her flip chart for the
> most commonly used Enterprise/Zenith numbers, other less well known
> Enterprise/Zenith numbers had details on file at Rate & Route which
> was 815+161 in Morris, Illinois most of the time, a function provided
> for AT&T under contract with Illinois Bell. 

> AT&T contracted out most of its smaller 'back office' functions such
> as Rate & Route (to Illinois Bell), 'non-subscriber calling cards' (to
> Cincinnati Bell); Separations and Settlements (to New York Telephone
> and Pacific Telephone), etc. I hear your question: how could someone
> who was NOT a subscriber to a *specific* telephone company (which we
> know almost always meant X Bell and AT&T) have a calling card (or as
> they called them in those days, credit cards)? Well there were the
> military personnel on active duty; traveling salesman who always
> stayed in various hotels, etc, but had no specific home base of
> operations, and so forth. They all recieved 'non-sub' style credit 
> cards from the phone company if they ask for one. And there were the
> 'special billing' style accounts, HUGE corporations and government
> agencies where the bills were all handled from one or another central
> location. Special billing style 'non (specific telco)-sub credit
> cards' were handled on contract for AT&T by Southwestern Bell I 
> think. 

> I think also -- just cannot remember for sure -- that any police or
> sheriffs who had a large enough coverage area that some of their
> citizens would be required to call 'long distance' to reach the police
> or sheriff (and for all offices of the FBI!) were given a Zenith 
> number for their (out of toll free local calling area) citizens to
> use. I did see a very ancient (1950-ish) phone book for here in 
> Independence where the FBI (located in Wichita) was listed as 
> 'subscribers in Indpce and C'ville, ask Operator for Zenith xxxx'
> Please note, even though this is a Southwestern Bell (and thus,
> under the old system, AT&T) region those were cases where they used
> Zenith instead of Enterprise. I think maybe the federal government
> required the use of Zenith for their accounts, even though it was
> ultimatly via Bell/AT&T. 

> Please recall that the independent telcos (of which GTE (an amalga-
> mation of other independent telcos) was the largest, originally
> had refused to give in or 'sell out to the Bell' right after the
> start of the 20th century largely because of Ted Vail's (original
> AT&T's Chairman) tactics. Every one of them hated Bell with a passion,
> but dealt with Ma Bell when they had to. They did their own thing,
> but copied Bell business practices by and large. Thus the Zenith 
> versus Enterprise label. They even formed their own national 
> association (USITA - United States Independent Telephone Association) 
> to act as a 'watchdog' on Bell.  Do times change? Well in the
> last USITA national convention prior to divestiture (1981) the
> principal speaker at USITA was none other than Charles Brown, AT&T
> chairman, By then they had all gotten to be bosum buddies!  PAT]

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

Subject: Coin Phones
From: Charles G Gray <graycg@okstate.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:10:43 -0600


Further to the discussion on why so many coin phones were assigned 
NXX-8/9XXX. 

For companies/corporations that used a PBX or CCSA they invariably
used 9 to access an "outside line".  In many cases, an entire NXX
would be assigned to the company. Some used 8 for access to their
private network.  Sometimes they would use 99 for outside, and 98 for
private network access.  In either case, since 9XXX could never be
used as part of the company's internal dial plan, the telco used these
number blocks for pay phones.  Otherwise, they might not have been
assigned at all.

Regards,

Charles G. Gray
Senior Lecturer, Telecommunications
Oklahoma State University - Tulsa
(918)594-8433

------------------------------

From: grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk
Subject: Outsourcing From OTHER Perspective
Reply-To: grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:32:11 +0000
Organization: Customer of PlusNet


> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/opinion/26FRIE.html

> "How can it be good for America to have all these Indians doing our
> white-collar jobs?" I asked 24/7's founder, S. Nagarajan.

> Well, he answered patiently, "look around this office." All the
> computers are from Compaq. The basic software is from Microsoft. The
> phones are from Lucent. The air-conditioning is by Carrier, and even
> the bottled water is by Coke, because when it comes to drinking water
> in India, people want a trusted brand. On top of all this, says Mr.
> Nagarajan, 90 percent of the shares in 24/7 are owned by U.S.
> investors. This explains why, although the U.S. has lost some service
> jobs to India, total exports from U.S. companies to India have grown
> from $2.5 billion in 1990 to $4.1 billion in 2002. What goes around
> comes around, and also benefits Americans.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Benefits American shareholders.

Does it benefit American workers  ?

Or do American workers own so many shares in outsourced companies,
they don't need a job ?

Best newsgroup for debates on the topic of Job Outsourcing & Job Sorcery

alt.computer.consultants

------------------------------

From: mktg@garrettcom.com
Subject: GarrettCom, Inc.: Industrial Ethernet and Carrier Class Ethernet
Date: 26 Feb 2004 11:25:43 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


NEW COMPACT CONVERTER SWITCH PRODUCTS PROMISE CONVENIENT,
COST-EFFECTIVE EDGE CONNECTIVITY IN INDUSTRIAL ETHERNET NETWORKS

GarrettCom Introduces Family of Products that Combine Media Converter
and Switch Functionality to Reduce Costs and Increase Reliability

February 12, 2004  Fremont , Calif.  GarrettCom, Inc., has made
edge-of-the-network connectivity for industrial applications easier,
more reliable, and less expensive.  The company's Magnum CS Ethernet
Converter Switch family is the only set of products on the market
today that offers the convenience of a two-port edge switch plus a
media converter in one compact and modular package smaller than a
typical PDA.  In a CS product, one 10 Mb or 100 Mb fiber port connects
to the fiber backbone, while the two 10/100 copper switch ports
provide convenient access to PLCs, IEDs, sensors, and other devices in
the industrial plant or at remote industrial sites.

By improving upon the traditional stand-alone media converter,
GarrettCom offers a flexible, cost-effective connectivity solution and
eliminates one point-of-failure in the system for more reliable
operation.  The ability to select fiber port types, various DC and AC
power input options, and any of three levels of temperature ratings
enables users of the Magnum CS products to get the best price-to-value
ratio for each application.

A companion Convenient Switch product, the Magnum S14, offers four
10/100 copper ports in the same small package as the Converter Switch
products.

 "Space and money are always at a premium in a utility installation,"
said Rick Hillis, Manager Communications Engineering Electronic
Systems. Salt River Project, Phoenix , Ariz. GarrettCom's Converter
Switch solution allows us to connect our copper-ported equipment into
our Ethernet backbone in an extremely convenient and cost-effective
manner.  It's good to work with a company that understands the
realities and economies of the environment in which we operate."

The Magnum CS products are ideal for any location where a small number
of PLCs or other industrial devices need to be connected upstream over
a fiber cable, or where two or three devices need to be aggregated and
connected over copper cable.  There are no wasted ports; when
expansion is needed, it is easy to drop in an additional Converter
Switch or Convenient Switch device.

The Magnum CS products are designed to allow the user to select the
best package for the application.  Like most GarrettCom products, the
Magnum CS products come in multiple levels of hardiness to cover the
entire range of industrial edge-switch application requirements. 
GarrettCom's three-tier YOR hardiness ratings range from the "yellow"
office and wiring closet model to the "orange" hardened model for
factory floor and the "red" premium-rated model to withstand outdoor
temperature extremes. Where the choice of power type previously has
been conditioned upon the temperature rating of the application, the
new Magnum CS line allows users to have any power input type in any
temperature rating.

"The Converter Switch product is a new type of industrial Ethernet
device," said Frank Madren, GarrettCom president.  "Not only does a
Converter Switch device do the traditional copper-to-fiber
translation, but it also offers multiple copper ports. It is
economical, too, costing no more than traditional Media Converters."

Product Specifications 

The Magnum CS14 Converter Switch products come with one 100 Mb fiber
port and two RJ-45 copper ports. The Magnum CSN14 Converter Switch
products come with a 10 Mb fiber port and two RJ-45 copper ports. Both
Converter Switch models handle standard media distances on all
connected media segments. The Magnum S14 Convenient Switch product
comes with four RJ-45 copper ports.

All three models are packaged in the same type of enclosure, and can
be mounted and used together for application convenience.  All fiber
ports can be configured with any standard or Small Form Factor (SFF)
multi-mode or single-mode connector.  Power source choices are 110 or
220 VAC, or 12V, 24V or -48V DC. Dual source power is supported.  All
products can be ordered to meet office (Yellow), factory floor (
Orange), or outdoor (Red) levels of hardening, and come with
panel-mount brackets; DIN-Rail is optional.

For more information, go to
http://www.garrettcom.com/converter_switches.htm

Contact GarrettCom, Inc.
Email: mktg@garrettcom.com
Tel: 1-510-438-9071
Tel: 1-510-438-9072

Web Site: www.GarrettCom.com

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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 28 Feb 2004 00:31:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 93

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Internet Society Launches New Workshop (Internet Society)
    TiVo Introduces 140-Hour TiVo Series2 Digital Video (Monty Solomon)
    Internet Lawsuit Could Have Global Effect (Monty Solomon)
    RegisterSite.com and Seven Other Registrars Sue ICANN (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers (Al Gillis)
    Re: Vonage Troubles (Sammy@nospam.biz)
    Vonage Question [was VoIP Phone] (Joe Wineburgh)
    Re: VoIP Phone (BrianEWilliams)
    Re: Coin Phones (Tony P.)
    Re: Coin Phones (Sammy@nospam.biz)
    Re: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones (Joseph)
    Re: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones (Wesrock@aol.com)
    Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates (John R. Covert)
    Re: Outsourcing From OTHER Perspective (Justin Time)
    Re: Anyone Know of a ISDN/PRI or SIP to GR-303 'Converter' (K Daniels)
    Re: Home Phone System: Talkswitch, KX-TD308 Alternative? (Carl Navarro)

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From: Internet Society <press-owner@isoc.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:25:33 +0100
Subject: Internet Society Launches New Workshop


Announcement: Internet Society launches new Workshop Resource Centre


Geneva, Switzerland - February 25th, 2004 - The Internet Society
(ISOC) today announced the launch of the ISOC Workshop Resource
Centre, a new web-based portal supporting organisers of network
technology workshops worldwide.

On-line now at http://ws.edu.isoc.org the ISOC Workshop Resource
Centre provides a repository for sharing multi-lingual network
training materials as well as a range of planning tools and
information for trainers on how to set up and organise workshops. It
also provides access to a directory of trainers and their competences
and encourages interaction between members of the training community.

"Today's announcement once again highlights ISOC's commitment to
sustainable Internet technology education initiatives. ISOC has a long
and successful track record in education, and our programs which began
in 1993 have helped bring Internet connectivity to most of the world's
developing countries. The ISOC Workshop Resource Centre not only
allows us to bring the education materials used in these programs to a
much wider audience than was previously possible, but it also provides
a single source of valuable resources and tools for trainers and
workshop organisers," said Lynn St.  Amour, ISOC's President and
CEO. "We believe that the ISOC Workshop Resource Centre will allow
faster and more efficient deployment of network training while
empowering many other training efforts locally."

Development of the ISOC Workshop Resource Centre was made possible
thanks to support from the Public Interest Registry
( http://www.pir.org ) and sponsorship by Qualys Inc. 
( http://www.qualys.com ).

"Qualys' support of ISOC and the new Workshop Resource Centre is
consistent with our belief that education and training, particularly
when it comes to Internet security, must be accessible on a global
level," said Philippe Courtot, chairman and CEO of Qualys. "With
ISOC's leadership, we have the ability to expand the knowledge of
advanced Internet technologies to new areas of the world where
education is critical. Qualys is pleased to work with ISOC to expand
its current base of programs."

Specific features of the ISOC Workshop Resource Centre allow users to:

- Upload and download materials for network training workshops
- Find tools and checklists to plan educational programs
- Search for potential workshop instructors
- Review archived presentations and teaching materials from various events
  around the world
- Participate in on-line planning discussions for upcoming events
- Obtain peer review for lab exercises and curriculum
- Locate sources for lab equipment and technical books

Technical development of the ISOC Workshop Resource Centre was carried
out by a team from the Network Startup Resource Centre
( http://www.nsrc.org ) at the University of Oregon. Materials available
now were supplied from previous courses and by instructors from across
the globe.

For further information about the site, or for details of how to
submit educational materials to the portal, please send email to:
admin@ws.edu.isoc.org.

ABOUT ISOC

The Internet Society ( http://www.isoc.org ) is a not-for-profit
membership organization founded in 1991 to provide leadership in
Internet related standards, education, and policy. With offices in
Washington, DC, and Geneva, Switzerland, it is dedicated to ensuring
the open development, evolution and use of the Internet for the
benefit of people throughout the world. ISOC is the organizational
home of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and other
Internet-related bodies who together play a critical role in ensuring
that the Internet develops in a stable and open manner. For over 12
years ISOC has run international network training programs for
developing countries and these have played a vital role in setting up
the Internet connections and networks in virtually every country
connecting to the Internet during this time.

ABOUT QUALYS

Founded in 1999, Qualys, Inc. is a market-leading Web Service Provider
offering on-demand network security audits and vulnerability
management.  More than 150 Fortune 1000 companies, federal and state
agencies, and hundreds of small to medium businesses use Qualys
services to measure and enforce network security effectiveness, reduce
risk and comply with federal regulations.

ABOUT PIR

Public Interest Registry ( http://www.pir.org ) is a not-for-profit
Corporation created by the Internet Society (ISOC) to manage the .ORG
top-level domain. PIR's mission is to manage the .ORG domain in a
manner that supports the continuing evolution of the Internet as a
research, education and communications infrastructure, while educating
and empowering the non-commercial community to most effectively
utilize the Internet. PIR is based in Reston, Virginia.

ABOUT NSRC

The Network Startup Resource Centre (NSRC), a non-profit organisation,
has worked since the late 1980s to help develop and deploy networking
technology in various projects throughout Asia/Pacific, Africa, Latin
America and the Caribbean, the Middle East, and the New Independent
States. Partially supported by the US National Science Foundation, the
NSRC provides technical and engineering assistance to international
networking initiatives building access to the public Internet,
especially to academic/research institutions and non-governmental
organisations (NGOs). The NSRC is based at the University of Oregon.

________________________________________________________________________


FOR FURTHER DETAILS: 

Internet Society: http://www.isoc.org

Peter Godwin
Senior Program Manager
E-mail: godwin@isoc.org

Internet Society
4, rue des Falaises
1205 Geneva
Switzerland

Tel: +41 (22) 807 14 47
Fax: +41 (22) 807 14 45

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:39:07 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Introduces 140-Hour TiVo Series2 Digital Video


     Recorder for $349 After $50 Rebate

Increased Capacity Gives Consumers Ability to Record Even More
                  Episodes of Their Favorite Shows


SAN JOSE, Calif., Feb. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc.
(Nasdaq: TIVO), the pioneer in digital video recording (DVR) services,
today introduced a 140-hour model of the popular TiVo(R) Series2(TM)
DVR that will allow consumers to record even more of their favorite
programs, and further enjoy the control and ease of use of the TiVo
service. The 140-hour Series2 DVR is priced at a Manufacturer's
Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $399, but, after a $50 mail-in rebate
offered by TiVo, consumers can get the 140-hour DVR for as low as $349
with the purchase of TiVo service through the end of May 2004.*

The 140-hour unit can be purchased today directly from TiVo either
online at www.tivo.com or by calling 1-877-BUY-TiVo. It will be coming
soon to consumer electronics retailers including BestBuy.com,
CircuitCity.com, Amazon.com and Good Guys.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40704019

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:34:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Internet Lawsuit Could Have Global Effect


By ANICK JESDANUN AP Internet Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- On its face, the latest showdown between the company
that runs much of the Internet's core and the organization that
oversees key aspects of the global network is a basic contractual
dispute.

But whatever a federal court in Los Angeles decides could have broad
implications over whether financial or public interest ultimately
drives decisions on how Internet users worldwide visit Web sites and
send e-mail, legal experts say.

On Thursday, VeriSign Inc. sued the oversight body, the Internet 
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, saying ICANN's decisions 
have impeded efforts by VeriSign to offer new, moneymaking services.

The contract between VeriSign and ICANN is indeed vague, and both
sides have strong arguments, said Jonathan Weinberg, a Wayne State
University law professor who follows Internet policy.

A decision could set precedent over whether ICANN has legal authority
to halt emerging Internet services that it considers "good for
VeriSign and bad for the Internet as a whole," Weinberg said.

VeriSign, based in Mountain View, Calif., sought injunction relief 
and unspecified damages against ICANN, which the U.S. government 
designated in 1998 to handle domain names and other Internet 
addressing policies.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40713641

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:38:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: RegisterSite.com and Seven Other Registrars Sue ICANN



SEATTLE--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 27, 2004--

         Internet Governing Board Set to Vote March 6 in Rome

A second lawsuit has been filed in as many days against ICANN, the
global governing body for the internet. This suit, filed by an ad-hoc
group of eight internet domain name registrars, seeks to enjoin the
governing body from artificially installing a system of reassigning
expired internet domain addresses that is "anti-consumer,
anti-competitive and unnecessary."

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40712749

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From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:10:07 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Nick -

That was great work!  And, of course, you win the Bonus points!  Use
them wisely!

Some comments and minor nits:

 ---The company that held forth in the upper middle states was Northwestern
Bell, with the two Dakotas, Minnesota, Iowa and Nebraska.

 --- In the Pacific Northwest of the US it was (what else?) Pacific
Northwest Bell (Oregon, Washington and part of Idaho).  In the far
eastern part of Oregon and some places in Idaho there was a little
operation called the Malhuer Home Telephone Company.  I used to see
references to it in Oregon PUC tariff filing information)

 --- I think the C&P companies were all separate at the end (1984) but
were surely all one company in the early days.  How else would they
all get that exquisitely arcane name?  (That sort of reminds me of the
full name of the A&P supermarkets: "The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea
Company"!  That name certainly has more class than most of the names
in vogue today, don't you think?)

 --- What state was the "Diamond State"?  I'm guessing Rhode Island...
(and here's another exquisitely arcane name: "Rhode Island and
Providence Plantations".  That was its name when King Charles II
released control of the place).

 --- Nevada Bell was a separate entity until 1984, when the
Californians got it.  Do you suppose Nevada Bell was the smallest BOC
in terms of number of lines?

 --- It's interesting to me that in some cases many states were served
by one company (Mountain Bell and Northwestern Bell, for example) but
in lots of cases a Bell company was confined to a single state.  I
suppose this was because of taxes or regulation but it might just have
been some agreements made with previous owners as companies were
purchased before the Kingsbury Commitment came into the fore.

So thanks!!  PAT!  MARK!  Anything to add to Nicks information?

And Pat, thanks for adding your information about back office functions
spread across the System.

(Sorry this is getting so long!)

Al


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.92.11@telecom-digest.org:

> Al Gillis wrote:

>> Hi All...

> [SNIP]

>> And here's a couple of bonus questions ... Who can name all the 22
>> Operating Companies of the Bell System?  What was the name of the
>> metal recovery company the Bell System used to recover copper, lead
>> and other metals resulting from their disconnects?

> I'm guessing about the ones with ? after them.

> New England Telephone
> New York Telephone
> NJ Bell
> Bell of PA

> Chesapeake and Potomac of Virginia
> C & P of DC
> C & P of Maryland
> C & P of W. Va.
> (or were all of these considered one company?)

> Diamond State Telephone
> Southern Bell
> South Central Bell

> Illinois Bell
> Indiana Bell
> Michigan Bell
> Ohio Bell?
> (I think Cincinatti Bell was an independent,
> but I'm not sure)
> Wisconsin Bell?
> Don't know about Minnesotta? :(

> Southwest Bell
> Pacific Tel and Tel (wonder if Nevada Bell
> counts as a separate company?)

> Mountain Bell
> Northwest Bell.

> Totally lost on which company served the great plains states.

> And a portion of SNET (about 20%) was also owned
> by AT&T, I think. (Southern New England Telephone)

> and the answer to the bonus question is ...

> Nassau Smelting!

>> Thanks, Pat!

>> Al

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From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 06:02:27 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Rich Greenberg wrote:

> In article <telecom23.91.8@telecom-digest.org>, <Sammy@nospam.biz>
> wrote:

>> I've had Vonage for 11 months now, and have used it at two different
>> locations (Cable modem and DSL).

>> I lose dial tone occasionally and have found, every time, that if I
>> reboot the Cisco and perhaps the cable modem, it comes back just fine.

> And if you do nothing but wait about the same length of time, does it
> still come back?

Don't know, because if I need to use it I don't hang around and wait.

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From: Joe Wineburgh <Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com>
Subject: Vonage Question [was: VoIP Phone]
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:21:11 -0500


<With regard to PAT's comment about using the phone plug on the back
of the Vonage box to connect to connect to a pair going round the
house to multiple phones>

Has anyone actually set this up and used it this way? I'm ordering the
service and this was exactly what I was thinking of doing per the
comments on the Vonage web site suggesting it was possible and would
like to get some feedback from others who are using it in this
configuration.

Thanks.

#JOE


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am in the process of thinking it 
through now. When the weather gets a bit warmer and daylight lasts a 
little longer, I am certain I will do it. Just take care that you use
a pair which is totally idle and does not have dialtone anywhere on
it. If telco dialtone gets on that line, sure as the world it will 
fry that ATA box.  I'll have to first go to the phone demarc outside
my house on the wall, and *completely disconnect* the spare pair which
drops in from the telephone pole, tie it up out of the way. Then I
will take the phone box in my computer room (with only one pair on it)
and attach the second pair to the back side of the Vonage ATA box.    
Those two pairs (one idle, the other in use) go through the wall to
the outside where they snake up to the demarc. Then its back outside
to the demark and make sure the connections are correct there. At that
point one set of (four) wires runs around the house to my bedroom and 
the other set of (four) wires runs under the house to the other side 
where wires come up through the floor through the wall to the wall
phone in my dining area.  Now my landline phone will be on the one
pair running to the bedroom and under the house to the kitchen and 
to my computer room (formerly a back bedroom) on the third set of
wires. Ergo, Vonage on one set of wires, telco on the other set of 
wires. I'll need to buy, or inherit a few two-line phones with a 
hold button on them. I think the Vonage ATA box can handle a REM of 3
but I guess I will find out. Even though the last time I checked it,
three months ago or so (when fall weather was here) that second pair
which used to be my mother's phone when she lived here had no dial
tone on it -- just battery -- I never know but what Southestern Bell
may have since grabbed it to use elsewhere and not bothered to cut
the multiples here in my demarc. Probably not, but I would hate to
waste a Cisco ATA box by having it fried some day. 

I did a similar thing in Chicago several years ago, but with an old
Melco PBX. That was technically 'wrong' I guess, even before the 
divestiture when landlords inherited all the house pairs in an apart-
ment building; or the rule on 'conduits in common' took effect. I 
found some multiples up and down Greenview Street that telco had
forgotten to open and still had deserted the cable in place. So my
Melco served a couple buddies in the apartment building down the
street from me, and when dialing zero on the phone attached to that
PBX they reached Operator Pat. You know how much people squawk about
telco problems. If most people had *any idea* how many multiples there
are out there on their (so called) private phone which wind up getting
terminated as an 'unused pair' in someone else's house, it would be
a terrible scandal. My assumption was if Illinois Bell had ever had
a technician ring out those lines my PBX was on, he would hear dial
tone and 'just assume' plant had made an error in their records and
select another pair for his job. (Not an unreasonable assumption if
you know about the age-old street cables in Chicago.) In one of the
old apartment buildings where I filched a pair from the inside box
in the basement I found some pairs tied together with a string and 
a little tag by a phone man dated **1931**, long since forgotten
about.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: sorry_no_email@yahoo.com (BrianEWilliams)
Subject: VoIP Phone
Date: 26 Feb 2004 13:42:24 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Thanks for the info.  My responses are inline below.

sorry_no_email@yahoo.com (BrianEWilliams) wrote in message news:<telecom23.92.4@telecom-digest.org>:

> I am looking to add a second phone line to use in my home office.
> Since the phone company charges a setup fee, and then every little
> extra is more money, I thought I might use one of the new Voice over
> IP phones/systems that are available.

> I looked at Vonage (www.vonage.com), and the features are nice at a
> decent price, but my home network makes it a little awkward.  The
> cable modem is in my basement, which then feeds into a router that
> feeds all the rooms.  Having the Vonage device in my home office means
> that Vonage can't ensure service quality by prioritizing phone traffic
> over other traffic.  Having the Vonage device in the basement doesn't
> work at all.  If you are interested, here are some schematics:

> http://www.vonage.com/installation_multiple.php

> http://www.vonage.com/installation_multiple_alternate.php

> Anyway, I thought there might be a phone that just plugs into my USB
> port, which would be pretty slick if it works, although it means
> leaving my computer on if I want to get calls.  Any suggestions?

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you want to prioritize traffic to 
> make the phone work better, then a USB port where it will be fighting
> all the time with the other stuff (on that computer) is NOT the way to
> go. 

Good point, and I think I will rule out a USB phone.

> And what does your *home office* have to do with it (as opposed
> for example to an 'office' office? 

I wasn't too clear.  My home office happens to be on the second floor,
and that is where I want the equipment to make installation simple.

> And why is the cable modem in the basement? 

That is where I installed my "telecom closet" when we built the house,
and I also have a secondary office down there, although it isn't very
comfortable.  The cable modem in the basement feeds into the Linksys
router which then feeds into an ethernet patch bay which runs cable
from the basement into all the rooms.

> Or conversely why can't you use a somewhat longer ethernet
> connection in order to put the Cisco ATA box (or whatever kind of
> adapter you would get with Vonage) at some place that was more conven-
> ient for you to use. 

If I use the preinstalled wiring, then I couldn't have internet access
in all the other rooms of the house.  I *could* patch the cable modem
signal up to the ethernet port in my home office, but then how would I
get it from there to the rest of the house?  I suppose I could get a
wireless network, but I have been spoiled by my wired 100 mbs
ethernet.

> And instead of running off that box a relatively short distance to
> the nearest phone connection (which if it were in the basement would
> be more awkward for you) use the modular connecting plug on the back
> of the ATA box to a spare addtional pair to your incoming phone
> terminal box, then tie that pair all around your house so you used
> it at your convenience, as a line appearance on various phones.

Not a bad idea.  The phone terminal box is just outside the garage.  I
will look into this.
 
> And there is a 'bandwidth adjustment' on the Vonage website which you
> can reach from the Vonage dashboard. But it is confusing the way it
> appears on your screen: Mine defaulted exactly in the center of the
> gauge with 'more bandwith' being to the right and 'less bandwidth'
> being to the left (on this slider thing which ran from 30 Kbs on the
> left up to 120 Kbs on the right side.) People would complain they
> could not hear/understand me, so I (I thought logically) kept cranking
> the slider to the right: more bandwidth! More!  More!! But it just
> kept getting worse. Then the Vonage people explained to me I had to 
> move it to the *left*, not right. "Move it all the way to the left,
> at 30 Kbs, reboot the Cisco ATA and wait a few minutes (like 15-20)
> for everything to catch up you, then try it, and don't forget to 
> install the TFTD and SIP things in your firewall." When I did all
> that, and waited a few minutes for Vonage to 'catch up with me' it
> all worked *much better*.

> Not certain it would work correctly, I put in a call to the one
> chronic complainer I talk to a lot who *always* knows when I am on
> Vonage 'because it always sounds so crappy' and even he this time 
> said 'It sounds a lot better now, what did you do to it?' before I
> told him I had done anything at all. He said that before I made the
> adjustments Vonage gave me, whenever my weather station via the
> Windows 95 would let loose with an FTP transfer to my display at
> http://weatherforecast.us.tf or http://weatherforecast.n3.net it
> would always blank out my voice talking on the Vonage. Now, he says,
> it only ever so occassionally 'clips' a word here and there. Of 
> course I am running not only the weather station and its camera to
> the net, but also a camera view of my computer room all the time for
> anyone who gets their kicks by spying on me http://patricktownson.us.tf  
> so I do put a load on the cable, yet I do not have that much trouble
> with it since I made the recommended (by Vonage) adjustments.  PAT]

Sounds like Vonage is not what I want.  My current land line doesn't
cost much more, with unlimited local and long distance, call waiting,
3-way, and voice mail.  I thought I could save a few bucks by
switching, but I think I will give it some more time.  Thanks for the
help.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But for anyone who thinks Vonage may
fit their application, they can get a month of free service from me
by asking for an e-coupon. But do me a favor. Don't sign up for Vonage
*then* ask me for a free month of service. You have to use *my
e-coupon* to click on in order to get the free month. I'll get you
the coupon right away in return email. Email to ptownson@telecom-digest.org
and ask for a Vonage free trial.   No obligations. PAT]

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Coin Phones
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 06:37:13 GMT


In article <telecom23.92.12@telecom-digest.org>, graycg@okstate.edu 
says:

> Further to the discussion on why so many coin phones were assigned 
> NXX-8/9XXX. 

> For companies/corporations that used a PBX or CCSA they invariably
> used 9 to access an "outside line".  In many cases, an entire NXX
> would be assigned to the company. Some used 8 for access to their
> private network.  Sometimes they would use 99 for outside, and 98 for
> private network access.  In either case, since 9XXX could never be
> used as part of the company's internal dial plan, the telco used these
> number blocks for pay phones.  Otherwise, they might not have been
> assigned at all.

Interesting. When I worked for Ernst & Young, LLP they initially used 9 
for local, 8 for LD. Then when we finally linked a bunch of switches 
together the requirement to dial 8 went away and we had 4 digit dialing 
among the Providence, Boston and Manchester offices. 

This was in the time frame of 1995 to 1997. 

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From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Coin Phones
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:27:27 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Charles G Gray wrote:

> Further to the discussion on why so many coin phones were assigned
> NXX-8/9XXX.

> For companies/corporations that used a PBX or CCSA they invariably
> used 9 to access an "outside line".  In many cases, an entire NXX
> would be assigned to the company. Some used 8 for access to their
> private network.  Sometimes they would use 99 for outside, and 98 for
> private network access.  In either case, since 9XXX could never be
> used as part of the company's internal dial plan, the telco used these
> number blocks for pay phones.  Otherwise, they might not have been
> assigned at all.

Ah yes, especially 9xxx.  Then, they slowly released those to residential
use.  I recall, perhaps in the early 1980s, making a person call from an
associate's house who had XXX-9XXX.  The operator balked and said I must
be calling from a pay phone.

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:18:09 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:38:21 -0700, jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com> wrote:

> Here in the west the premium numbers were more likely to end in two or
> three "1"s, e.g. MAin 4-8411.  Nobody had the patience to pull all
> those zeros, so the highly valued numbers ended in the shortest
> possible pulls.

> Thousand-ending numbers were not very common in the areas I lived.

That's not really why you had numbering that way.  It's likely that
the central offices in that area were step-by-step (Strowger.)  In
Strowger offices all lower to upper numbers were from 1 to 0 and
numbers that automatically stepped would step in the direction 1>2>3>
etc.  So, you'd very rarely see businesses with XX00 or X000.  In step
offices there were dedicated number grouping for numbers that would
auto step to the next in the hunting group e.g. in Portland, Maine the
Maine Medical Center had SPruce 5-5454.  The 54XX selectors/connectors
were for numbers that hunted.  You'd never see businesses with
multiple lines in a step office with the initial number being X000 or
XX00.  OTOH in cities where they had either panel or crossbar offices
you'd commonly see businesses with XX00 or X000 (e.g. PEnnsylvania
5-6000) because the switch counted from 0-9 rather than 1-0 as would
be the case for step-by-step/Strowger switches.


           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:20:11 EST
Subject: Re: Memories: Old Fashioned Three Slot Coin Phones


jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com> writes on Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:38:21 -0700:

> Here in the west the premium numbers were more likely to end in two or
> three "1"s, e.g. MAin 4-8411.  Nobody had the patience to pull all
> those zeros, so the highly valued numbers ended in the shortest
> possible pulls.

> Thousand-ending numbers were not very common in the areas I lived.

       The reason large groups ended in "11" was that they were served
by step offices.  Step offices count from 1 to 10, so a hundred line
group starts with 11, not 00.  A dial pull of zero (0) is 10 pulses,
and a number ending in 00 would be the very last number on the
connector, and could only be a single line.

       Most of the west and southwest did indeed use step equipment
originally, including southern California and the L.A. area, which is
why large rotary groups in our areas ended in 11, giving a possible
trunk group as large as 100 rotary lines.  (Going beyond a 100-line
group in a step office had numerous complications.)

      The difficulty of the customers' tedious dial pulls and the
greater holding time did not come into it.

      Most customers, particular large customers, did not like to
change their numbers when common control equipment came to these areas
and replaced the step equipment, so many numbers ending in 11 still
exist.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

------------------------------

From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: 27 Feb 2004 10:38:17 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Ray Normandeau <rayta@msn.com> wrote:

> Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.90.7@telecom-digest.org>:

>> In article <telecom23.89.3@telecom-digest.org>, rnadgor@email.com
>> says:

>>> To make a long story short: My girlfriend is in Spain for the
>>> semester, and I have a Verizon landline in my house. I went on their
>>> website to see how much it would cost to call, and it said $0.10 a
>>> minute and a $4 fee. Sounded very cheap to me, so I made several hours
>>> of phone calls. I got my bill yesterday: $630. Called Verizon. They
>>> told me that I needed to call them and agree to pay the $4 to activate
>>> the international calling for that price. Since I did not, I was
>>> charged $3.09 a minute. 

> You musta meant 30.9 CPM!

No.  AT&T charged  me $2/minute on a call to Canada  because I did not
have the international  calling plan.  I could see  $3/minute to Spain
being in the same general range.

AT&T refused to reimburse me the call, and I lost in Small Claims
Court since I did indeed not purchase the international calling plan
and the judge agreed with the AT&T lawyer that although the charge was
high it was standardized.

You can believe that I will not be using AT&T long distance service
again, nor will many of my friends.


--scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:19:50 -0500 (EST)
From: John R. Covert <nospam@covert.org>
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates


Roman <rnadgor@email.com> had written:

> To make a long story short: My girlfriend is in Spain ...
> so I made several hours of phone calls. I got my bill yesterday:
> $630. Called Verizon. They told me that I needed to call them and
> agree to pay the $4 to activate the international calling ...
> Since I did not, I was charged $3.09 a minute.
> ... on their website there is no mention of calling them ...
> or that there is a different rate if you don't pay it ...
> I'm a poor college student who simply can't afford that type
> of payment. I have no idea what to do.

and Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> thought he would help:

> File complaints with your state attorney general ...

Waste of time.  I'd suggest you get a part-time job.  Although Pat's
suggestion that an appeal to the chairman might work, I doubt it.  You
were charged the advertised rate.

The Verizon web site is very clear:

"For the occasional international caller, we offer basic international
 rates for no Monthly fee. If you do not choose an international plan
 when you sign up for a domestic long distance plan, you will be charged
 the following flat rates..."

http://www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/ld/plan_basicintlrates.asp

You must have been looking at the "International Choice Calling Plan".

http://www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/ld/plan_ICPWEST.asp

Notice the "order" button.  That was your clue that you had to order
the service to get something other than the basic rates.


/john

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Outsourcing From OTHER Perspective
Date: 27 Feb 2004 07:06:49 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk wrote in message news:<telecom23.92.13@telecom-digest.org>:

>> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/opinion/26FRIE.html

>> "How can it be good for America to have all these Indians doing our
>> white-collar jobs?" I asked 24/7's founder, S. Nagarajan.

>> Well, he answered patiently, "look around this office." All the
>> computers are from Compaq. The basic software is from Microsoft. The
>> phones are from Lucent. The air-conditioning is by Carrier, and even
>> the bottled water is by Coke, because when it comes to drinking water
>> in India, people want a trusted brand. On top of all this, says Mr.
>> Nagarajan, 90 percent of the shares in 24/7 are owned by U.S.
>> investors. This explains why, although the U.S. has lost some service
>> jobs to India, total exports from U.S. companies to India have grown
>> from $2.5 billion in 1990 to $4.1 billion in 2002. What goes around
>> comes around, and also benefits Americans.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Benefits American shareholders.

> Does it benefit American workers  ?

> Or do American workers own so many shares in outsourced companies,
> they don't need a job ?

> Best newsgroup for debates on the topic of Job Outsourcing & Job Sorcery

> alt.computer.consultants

Hmmm ... My Random House Dictionary defines Sorcery as:

sor•cer•y    (sôr‚sƒ rŽ)  n., pl. -cer•ies the practices of a person

who is thought to have supernatural powers granted by evil spirits;
black magic; witchery. [1250–1300; ME sorcerie < ML sorceria. See
SORCERER, -Y3]

Which, I guess, describes the job of a consultant?


Rodgers Platt

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:26:25 -0800
From: Kelly Daniels <telco44@comcast.net>
Reply-To: telco44@comcast.net
Organization: Kelly Daniels
Subject: Re: Anyone Know of a ISDN/PRI or SIP to GR-303 'Converter' ??


Brett wrote:

> Hi there,

> I know this may seem silly, and I know it's much more complicated than
> I'm making it, but here's my situation. I have a Sonus softswitch and
> I want to provide GR-303 trunk groups. I'm not opposed to an external
> solution, however I want to be able to provide service to traditional
> GR-303 RDTs. Multiple groups are prefered.

> Any help would be appreciated.

> Thanks,

> Brett
> Please reply to list or: brett+dated+1079033735.ccdfd2@nemeroff.com

Most GR-303 interfaces are still pretty much COT/RDT related.  You
will need to develop an emulation interface in the trunk group
assignments of the Sonus if the RDTs are existing.  Part of the GR-303
interface is the signaling interface for oss interface.  While it can
be ignored, the GR-303 inteface provides the main line side
enhancments through these assignments.

I moved from IXC to LEC switch tech and network design.  I had trouble
understanding the differences between TR-1 and GR-303 interfaces.  I
was forever trying to provide the GR-303 interfaces from either the
line-side part of the switch or the TR-1 interfaces before GR303 was
developed.  There was always a way but often a remote mux needed
ringing and some flash-hook control.

What are your VoIP options?  I am not that fully familiar with Sonus.


Kelly

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Home Phone System: Talkswitch, KX-TD308 Alternative?
Reply-To: cnavarro@wcnet.org
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:56:30 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:51:47 GMT, Susan <rkcarlton@aol.com> wrote:

> I currently use a Talkswitch and previously had a Panasonic 308 (and
> still have all the handsets). My family is unhappy with the Talkswitch
> since you have to memorize all the codes to make it perform the most
> basic functions (I've tried countless ways to program the wireless
> phones to make it easier, but nothing beats the simplicity of a hold
> button that actually puts the phone on hold). Since I have a base
> investment in the KX-TD, I could reacquire all the KSU equipment --
> but it is expensive, and I have the same problem with the wireless
> phones (unless I buy the very expensive Panasonic digital wireless).

> Key needs beyond the usual are: one at home business, simplicity for
> family and guests, intercom so you can tell someone to pick up the
> phone without yelling, flexibility to mix wired and wireless.

> Should I stick with the Talkswitch, reacquire the Panasonic -- or is
> there a better option to consider?

You sort of answered your own question.  You hold the telephones for a
Panasonic system, yet you spent more money for a Talkswitch controller
that you (or your family) hates.  Are you into punishment that you
want to try a THIRD alternative?

I'd look for another TD.

I confess, my SOHO system is a TD-308 tied to a CID cordless so I can
roam throughout the house and get office calls.  I have 1 or 2,
depending on the season, digital phones and all the rest single line
devices on the system.  


Carl Navarro

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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:27:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Court: DeCSS Ban Violated Free Speech


By Evan Hansen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

A California appeals court on Friday reversed a 4-year-old order
barring the publication of a DVD-cracking tool on the Internet,
finding the injunction violated the defendant's free speech rights.

The case was closely watched as a test of how much protection
companies can expect in California for trade secrets that become
widely distributed online.

The plaintiff, the DVD Copy Control Association, had argued that
Andrew Bunner violated its intellectual property rights by posting on
the Internet code known as DeCSS that can be used to bypass
Hollywood's encryption scheme for DVDs. Bunner's attorneys had
countered that the code was no longer a secret by the time he posted
it on his Web site.

On Friday, California's Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals agreed,
reversing a trial judge's order first issued in 1999.

http://news.com.com/2100-1026-5166887.html

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:40:01 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Residents Express Annoyance Over Cable Cost Discrepancies


By Connie Paige, Globe Correspondent, 2/19/2004
Boston Globe

Hudson selectmen called a Comcast Corp. employee on the carpet at a
meeting last month to find out why cable TV bills are higher there
than in neighboring communities.

Frank Foss, Comcast's manager of government and community relations,
explained that it relates to the services provided to Hudson.
Selectmen asked Foss to break down costs; they're still waiting.

"I'm not really happy about it," said Selectman Joseph Durant. "I 
don't think I've ever gotten a straight answer out of them, ever."

Cable TV companies serving the western suburbs charge different rates 
even in neighboring communities, sometimes for the same channel 
lineups.

Customers in Hudson, for example, pay $49 monthly for standard cable 
service, even though they get the same programs as residents in 
nearby Maynard, where the rate is $47; Stow, $46; and Sudbury, 
$44.75, according to company rate cards. Standard service includes 
the networks and sports, children's, travel, and food channels, but 
no premium fare such as HBO.

The same is true for the area around Watertown, where the standard-
service Comcast bill is $41.75 per month, while in Needham, 
it's $43.75; Wellesley, $45.50; and Weston, $46.75, rate cards show.


http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/02/19/residents_express_annoyance_over_cable_cost_discrepancies/

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:35:14 PST
From: John Bartley or K7AAY@ARRL.NET <johnbartley3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Picture, Michael Powell in a Bra


Yes, Michael Powell in a bra.

Some telecom or computer magazine I've read within the past week had a
B&W pic of the Chair of the FCC in a bra.  I'd heard he wore it at
some stag event, and wasn't surprised when I saw it; just trashed the
magazine, and forgot about it.

Now, I've read the Notice of Rulemaking for BPL (internet service over
power lines), and need that picture, because there's nothing like
sophomoric humor on the part of Powell to illustrate the cavalier way
the FCC is approaching the issue.

What issue?  

Go set your tune your hi-fi to AM, pick a spot between local stations,
and turn up the vpolume about half way.  Then, try to have a phone
conversation over a bad cellular connection with your ear six inches
from the speakers, and you will still have an easier time
communicating than hams will when we experience the 16 db over S9
interference already demonstrated by BPL.

That interference explains why Austria and Japan already tried, then
abandoned, BPL.  However, this is 'the best government which lobbyist
money can buy', so we get the FCC telling us in the Notice they expect
power companies to fix the problems, the same power companies who
already take *months* to resolve RFI (radio frequency interference)
problems with existing tech.

The burden of proof of the problem will be on the *ham*.  How easy is
it to talk to your power company?  Hams know it gets much harder when
interference problems arise.

Hams have to buy all of our own gear to equip ourselves to be able to
communicate in emergencies, and we're a part of just about every
emergency plan there is.  

How many hams will learn the special skills needed for shortwave and
longwave and make the investment of $$$$ to buy the gear, if all we
get is static from BPL?  You have to practice just like it's for real
to be competent in something so demanding as passing radio traffic,
and longwave and shortwave require very different skills than the VHF
and UHF short-range frequencies which are unaffected by BPL.

Folks, I need this pic to help me prove my point.  Anyone remember what
magazine that picture was in?

Thanks, 73s and best regards,


John E. Bartley, III  K7AAY telcom admin, PDX - Views mine. 
celdata cjb net - Handheld Cellular Data FAQ
*This post quad-ROT13 encrypted. Reading it violates the DMCA.*

------------------------------

From: Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:54:42 -0500
Subject: 3 Slot Coin Phones


I'm surprised that some of the old stories haven't surfaced yet (possible
urban legends) about the ingenuity that students developed in order to
avoid actually spending the coins for a call.

First, there was 'spinning pennies'.

But the story I like best was about the contest for the best device to
fake out the registering of coins.  The winner -- one of the first examples
of thinking outside the [coin]box -- was a simple board with 3 bells
mounted to it.  Striking the right bell made it sound to the OPR like the
corresponding coin had been deposited and registered.
 

Julian Thomas:   jt@jt-mj.net    http://jt-mj.net
In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State!
Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc  http://www.possi.org
 -- --
Windows: From the people who brought you EDLIN!


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think some phone phreaks built an 
electronic box do to that, but do not remember its name. You fill in
the blank:  a _____ box .  I do know that Illinois Bell once had a 
very misprogrammed number; you dialed it (from a regular home phone)
and when there was an answer, a recording would say 'the call you 
have dialed requires a ten-cent deposit, please deposit ten-cents.'
Only having two nickels, I would rapidly punch the three and six
buttons on my touch tone like this:  'ding-ding (very short pause)
'ding-ding'. Bell's equipment would come back and demand another ten
cents. If I just sat there presently a live operator would come on
the line and say, 'our equipment did not register your money, deposit
it again.'  Okay operator, here it is ... and I would press the 
buttons (3&6) rapidly again. The operator obviously heard what 
appeared to be coins going in, and she released the call out to
the network. As long as I kept making the required ding-ding deposits
and then answering the inquiring operator with more ding-dings the
call just kept looping around to itself and making the request for
money over and over. After doing it about five or six times, the
audio transmission quality got so bad I had to just abandon my 
call.  (snicker). I think we played with that off and on for a week
or so, eventually tiring of it.  PAT] 

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 05:47:43 GMT


In article <telecom23.93.5@telecom-digest.org>, alg@aracnet.com says:

> Nick -

> That was great work!  And, of course, you win the Bonus points!  Use
> them wisely!

> Some comments and minor nits:

>  --- What state was the "Diamond State"?  I'm guessing Rhode Island...
> (and here's another exquisitely arcane name: "Rhode Island and
> Providence Plantations".  That was its name when King Charles II
> released control of the place).

Bzzzzttt ... wrong answer. Diamond State was Delaware, not the State
of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. It is still the official
name of the state btw, as a former state employee I ought to know.

We were covered by New England Telephone which became Nynex, then Bell
Atlantic and now Verizon.

Just a slight identity crisis.

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:04:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Al Gillis wrote:

> Nick -

> That was great work!  And, of course, you win the Bonus points!  Use
> them wisely!

Thanks ... some responses to your comments interspersed here ...

> Some comments and minor nits:

>  ---The company that held forth in the upper middle states was
> Northwestern

> Bell, with the two Dakotas, Minnesota, Iowa and Nebraska.

>  --- In the Pacific Northwest of the US it was (what else?) Pacific
> Northwest Bell (Oregon, Washington and part of Idaho).  In the far
> eastern part of Oregon and some places in Idaho there was a little
> operation called the Malhuer Home Telephone Company.  I used to see
> references to it in Oregon PUC tariff filing information)

>  --- I think the C&P companies were all separate at the end (1984) but
> were surely all one company in the early days.  How else would they
> all get that exquisitely arcane name?  (That sort of reminds me of the
> full name of the A&P supermarkets: "The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea
> Company"!  That name certainly has more class than most of the names
> in vogue today, don't you think?)

I agree, they could have been the same at some point, but don't know
for sure.  It could have been a similar situation to Southern Bell
which split into Southern Bell and South Central Bell at some point
because someone felt it was just too large a company.  (Funny how it
got merged back in again thanks to Judge Green.)

>  --- What state was the "Diamond State"?  I'm guessing Rhode Island...
> (and here's another exquisitely arcane name: "Rhode Island and
> Providence Plantations".  That was its name when King Charles II
> released control of the place).

I'm pretty sure that Diamond State telephone was Delaware.

> 
>  --- Nevada Bell was a separate entity until 1984, when the
> Californians got it.  Do you suppose Nevada Bell was the smallest BOC
> in terms of number of lines?

No idea about the number of lines.  I am pretty sure tho that Nevada
was a separate company in name only.  I remember having several
meetings at Pac Bell in the early 80's regarding a system to support
outside plant trouble-shooting.  There was a poster in almost every
conference room which read: "Don't forget about Nevada."  Could have
had to do with regulation as you note below.

>  --- It's interesting to me that in some cases many states were served
> by one company (Mountain Bell and Northwestern Bell, for example) but
> in lots of cases a Bell company was confined to a single state.  I
> suppose this was because of taxes or regulation but it might just have
> been some agreements made with previous owners as companies were
> purchased before the Kingsbury Commitment came into the fore.

> So thanks!!  PAT!  MARK!  Anything to add to Nicks information?
> And Pat, thanks for adding your information about back office functions
> spread across the System.

> (Sorry this is getting so long!)

> Al

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Speaking of the old Nevada Bell, did 
you ever see their telephone book? One book *only* for the entire
state.  After the front part of the book was devoted to the two or
three large cities they serviced, then it went just page after page
of toll station listings. The name of the town, followed by either one
or two 'toll station' numbers, in one case I think five listings.
Four of five such toll station communities listed on each page, and
the same redundant instructions listed for each one: "To reach the
subscribers in xxxx, dial your zero operator and ask for 'xxxx toll
station number xx'.    PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:23:04 -0800
From: Linc Madison <lincmad@suespammers.org>
Reply-To: lincmad@suespammers.org
Organization: California resident; nospam; no unsolicited e-mail allowed


In article <telecom23.93.5@telecom-digest.org>, Al Gillis
<alg@aracnet.com> wrote:

>  --- It's interesting to me that in some cases many states were served
> by one company (Mountain Bell and Northwestern Bell, for example) but
> in lots of cases a Bell company was confined to a single state.  I
> suppose this was because of taxes or regulation but it might just have
> been some agreements made with previous owners as companies were
> purchased before the Kingsbury Commitment came into the fore.

> So thanks!!  PAT!  MARK!  Anything to add to Nicks information?

There was also at least one exception in the other direction: almost
all of the "Bell" areas of Texas were in the territory of Southwestern
Bell, but the westernmost tip, the area around El Paso, was served by
Mountain Bell. (Roughly the same part of Texas that is in the Mountain
Time Zone instead of Central.) That area was transferred to
Southwestern Bell, now SBC, as part of the Bell System breakup.

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From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 06:15:28 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in reply to writer:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  Maybe an appeal to the chairman's
>> office would work. It has for me a couple times. Or else filing a
>> commission complaint. But really, what made you think they would
>> automatically know of your intentions and put you on the $4 plan?
>> For them to do that without your okay is also illegal; it is known
>> as 'cramming'.  This really isn't Verizon's fault at all; try again
>> tomorrow with a different rep and see if she will help you before
>> you go the appeals route. If you get out of this mess in one piece,
>> start reading their advertising more closely, and *always* tell the
>> business office your intentions before you make calls like this.
>> PAT]

> Policies like these are predatory on the part of AT&T. No wonder
> they're doing so badly. It looks like they took a few pages from the MCI
> playbook.

Absolutely predatory on the part of Verizon.  The web site should have
stated both rates, and in large, clear print stated that the "theft"
rate automatically applied unless you called the company and signed
up.

In this day and age, how can you even trust them to sign you up?

------------------------------

From: Pete Romfh <spamblocked@yourISP.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Question [was: VoIP Phone]
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 06:16:34 -0600
Organization: Not Organized


Joe Wineburgh wrote:

> <With regard to PAT's comment about using the phone plug
> on the back of the Vonage box to connect to connect to a
> pair going round the house to multiple phones>

> Has anyone actually set this up and used it this way? I'm
> ordering the service and this was exactly what I was
> thinking of doing per the comments on the Vonage web site
> suggesting it was possible and would like to get some
> feedback from others who are using it in this
> configuration.

> Thanks.

> #JOE

== Pat's useful info snipped ====

I have this working right now. I replaced my 2nd RBOC line (about
$40/mo) with Vonage. The Cisco ATA sits in my closet where the DSL,
router, and (home run) wiring all terminate. I just put an RJ-11 on
the end of some cross-connect wire, pulled off the jumper coming in
from the protector, and punched down the XC wire. On my (2-line)
phones L1 is my local (Houston) line and L2 is my (Chicago) Vonage
line. I'm driving 5 (electronic) ringers on it with no problem but
I'll bet the REN is down around 3.

Works fine and is simple for my spouse to understand. Having a Chicago
line is handy for my relatives living there and it's fun to call my
(Houston) co-workers from saying I'm starting in to work. When I show
up in the office 20 minutes later they wonder how I got from Chicago
to Houston so quickly.

Ocassionally I forget and try to dial a local number on L2 but am
quickly reminded by an error tone. Local calls here are 10-digits and
Vonage calls are 1+10 digits.

I've registered the street address on Vonage's system so a 911 call on L2
will still be correctly identified.


Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
promfh at Texas dot net

------------------------------

From: Flatus Ohlfahrt <flatus@militaryretired.us>
Subject: Re: Vonage Question [was: VoIP Phone]
Date: 28 Feb 2004 13:11:16 GMT
Organization: USAF Ret


On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:21:11 GMT, Joe Wineburgh wrote in
news:telecom23.93.7@telecom-digest.org: 

> <With regard to PAT's comment about using the phone plug on the back
> of the Vonage box to connect to connect to a pair going round the
> house to multiple phones>

> Has anyone actually set this up and used it this way? I'm
> ordering the service and this was exactly what I was
> thinking of doing per the comments on the Vonage web site
> suggesting it was possible and would like to get some
> feedback from others who are using it in this configuration.

I've done it and it works fine.

And, I've taken it one step further by having the ATA plug in to my
Talkswitch Concero. I have four internal branches from the Concero
that are automatically managed by hour of the day and type of call,
e.g., fax, voice, or calls to be forwarded to my cellphone.

It gives me great good pleasure to announce that there is 
absolutely no physical connection between my 'internal phone 
company' and BellSouth!


Flatus

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I had never thought of that, but now
I suspect, the Vonage ATA would work quite well as the in/output to
the 9-level on a small PBX system. From any phone in the house, dial
'9' and get an outside line from Vonage.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: 28 Feb 2004 14:28:42 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Question [was: VoIP Phone]
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> <With regard to PAT's comment about using the phone plug on the back
> of the Vonage box to connect to connect to a pair going round the
> house to multiple phones>

> Has anyone actually set this up and used it this way?

Yes, that's what I do.  I unplugged my second line at the outside box
and put a piece of electrical tape over the jack as a hint to any
telco guys who might happen by.  In my office I have a two line phone
with the usual two jacks, one for L1/L2, one for L2 only, so I left
the first jack plugged into the wall, and plugged the second jack into
the ATA box.  The phone bridges the two jacks, so the Vonage line now
goes all over the house, and works fine on the two other two-line
phones.

I think I read somewhere that the ATA can power up to five ringers,
but I wouldn't push it.  It works fine with three.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John, aren't you involved with the
sewers there in Trumansburg any longer? You used to have that as part
of one of your several .sig files.    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:27:56 -0600
From: John Schmerold <john@katy.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Troubles


Spent a couple of hours of unbillable time listening to client
complain. Vonage music on hold, Vonage saying they're going to tweak
something.

No more.

I'm going to pick someone else, not sure what yet, but Vonage is
growing too fast and they don't have the willingness to say "sorry
we're full for now".  There are many people that can sell well, many
people that deliver well, I should have gone with someone that can
deliver well.

Sammy@nospam.biz wrote about Re: Vonage Troubles on Fri, 27 Feb 2004
06:02:27 -0800 saying:

> Rich Greenberg wrote:
>
>
>> In article <telecom23.91.8@telecom-digest.org>, <Sammy@nospam.biz>
>> wrote:

>>> I've had Vonage for 11 months now, and have used it at two different
>>> locations (Cable modem and DSL).

>>> I lose dial tone occasionally and have found, every time, that if I
>>> reboot the Cisco and perhaps the cable modem, it comes back just fine.

>> And if you do nothing but wait about the same length of time, does it
>> still come back?

> Don't know, because if I need to use it I don't hang around and wait.

> From: Joe Wineburgh <Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com>
> Subject: Vonage Question [was: VoIP Phone]
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:21:11 -0500

> <With regard to PAT's comment about using the phone plug on the back
> of the Vonage box to connect to connect to a pair going round the
> house to multiple phones>

> Has anyone actually set this up and used it this way? I'm ordering the
> service and this was exactly what I was thinking of doing per the
> comments on the Vonage web site suggesting it was possible and would
> like to get some feedback from others who are using it in this
> configuration.
>
> Thanks.
>
> #JOE

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    Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers (Tony P.)
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    Nevada; Other BOC Oddities (Mark J Cuccia)
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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:25:12 GMT


In article <telecom23.94.6@telecom-digest.org>, TELECOM Digest Editor
noted in response to hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net: 

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Speaking of the old Nevada Bell, did 
> you ever see their telephone book? One book *only* for the entire
> state.  After the front part of the book was devoted to the two or
> three large cities they serviced, then it went just page after page
> of toll station listings. The name of the town, followed by either one
> or two 'toll station' numbers, in one case I think five listings.
> Four of five such toll station communities listed on each page, and
> the same redundant instructions listed for each one: "To reach the
> subscribers in xxxx, dial your zero operator and ask for 'xxxx toll
> station number xx'.    PAT]

Rhode Island is an oddity in that there is the big book that is
distributed to Providence rate centers (Ie. those served by PRVDRIWA
and PRVDRIBR which amounts to roughly 85% of the numbers in the
state!) and covers all numbers in the state, while outlying
communities get community directories and in cases have to request the
Providence book.

Why they don't just distribute one book to the entire state I'll never
know.

Last I knew there was the Providence book, the Pawtucket book, one for 
Wickford, Newport, and Woonsocket. 

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:23:48 EST
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers


In a message dated Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:10:07 -0800, Al Gillis 
<alg@aracnet.com> writes:

> --- In the Pacific Northwest of the US it was (what else?) Pacific
> Northwest Bell (Oregon, Washington and part of Idaho).  In the far
> eastern part of Oregon and some places in Idaho there was a little
> operation called the Malhuer Home Telephone Company.  I used to see
> references to it in Oregon PUC tariff filing information)

      Originally Pacific Northwest Bell was part of Pacific Telephone
and Telegraph.  I happened to know slightly the guy who became the
first president of PNB when it was split off as a separate company.
(That was when the CEOs of Bell operating companies were consistently
called "president" rather than "chairman".)

     Not connected with that, I recall seeing the Malheur Home
Telephone Company always included in the companies covered by the Bell
System benefit, savings and pension plans, so I always assumed it was
a Bell company with an unusual relationship to the system.  Perhaps
someone else knows.

Linc Madison  <lincmad@suespammers.org>writes:

> There was also at least one exception in the other direction: almost
> all of the "Bell" areas of Texas were in the territory of Southwestern
> Bell, but the westernmost tip, the area around El Paso, was served by
> Mountain Bell. (Roughly the same part of Texas that is in the Mountain
> Time Zone instead of Central.) That area was transferred to
> Southwestern Bell, now SBC, as part of the Bell System breakup.

       At the same time, Southwestern Bell transferred the part of the
St.  Louis metropolitan exchange on the east side of the Mississippi
River to Illinois Bell.

       I may be wrong, but it is my recollection it was a few years
before divestiture.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:45:11 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Nevada; Other BOC Oddities


Regarding the topic of Nevada, TELECOM Digest Editor noted:

> Speaking of the old Nevada Bell, did you ever see their telephone book?
> One book *only* for the entire state.

The Nevada Bell Telephone Company (or was it the Bell Telephone
Comapny of Nevada), which was actually a *subsidiary* of the BOC
"Pacific Telephone & Telegraph" (Pac*Bell) going back "way back when",
did publish one directory ... (however -- read on ...)

> After the front part of the book was devoted to the two or three large
> cities they serviced, then it went just page after page of toll station
> listings. The name of the town, followed by either one or two 'toll
> station' numbers, in one case I think five listings. Four of five such
> toll station communities listed on each page, and the same redundant
> instructions listed for each one: "To reach the subscribers in xxxx,
> dial your zero operator and ask for 'xxxx toll station number xx'.

But the "Nevada Bell" directory was the only directory the only
directory published by Nevada Bell, it was by *NO MEANS* the "ONLY"
directory for the rest of the state. There were directories published
by other telcos for their service areas, which in most cases are *NOT*
included in the (SBC) Nevada*Bell directory!

Sprint-Centel's Las Vegas Metro directory is MUCH MUCH larger than the
(SBC) Nevada Bell directory. And their own Directory Assistance bureau
used to have to be contacted by Nevada Bell's "Reno" Inward/Directory
for D.A. requests, even into the 1990s (if one still reached the real
distant-end local telco D.A. on NPA+555-1212 via their LD carrier).

Below is what I posted to TELECOM Digest back in April of last year
(2003) regarding this subject:

  Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:42:49 -0500 (CDT)
  From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
  Subject: Nevada's Printed Telephone Directories

John David Galt wrote:

> Nevada is also probably the largest state covered by a single directory
> (depending how you count -- that is, SBC's directory includes the
> listings for the entire state, but in independent-telco areas you will
> see smaller books showing only the local area).

(snip)

AFAIK, the SBC-NV*Bell directory does *NOT* contain any listings for
the region of Sprint-Centel Las Vegas. Sprint-Centel publishes its
*OWN rather large directory for its region, for the most part all
"EAS" (local" wrt itself. There is the independent telco of Moapa
Valley Telco just to the northeast of Vegas Metro. I don't know
offhand if they print their own directory, neither do I remember
offhand if Moapa Valley Telco is listed in Sprint-Centel's
directory. I don't think that SBC-NV*Bell necessarily includes these
listings.

[FEB.2004 additional note: Moapa Valley Telco does publish their own
small directory, so common amongst independent telcos in rural areas;
They are NOT included in the Las Vegas directory of
Sprint-Centel. However, in 1959, the Vegas directory did have a
section of Moapa Valley Telco.]

Some of the other independents in Nevada do print their own
directories, such as Lincoln County Telco. I seem to remember that
(SBC) NV*Bell's directory did *NOT* include listings for Lincoln
County Telco in years past.

And of course, there are other stateline situations where Nevada
ratecenters and customers (both NPA 702 in southeastern NV, and NPA
775 in the rest-of-the-state) are served out of (indep.telcos in)
adjacent state (Bell) LATAs, either Qwest-LEC (USWest) or maybe
SBC-Pac*Bell from CA. I don't know if any of these are necessarily
included in the SBC-NV*Bell directory.

But I seriously doubt that the SBC-NV*Bell directory now includes the
Sprint-Centel Las Vegas Metro listings, as this directory itself is
quite large, and had never previously been included in the "Bell of
Nevada" directory.

[end of April 2003 quote]

Now as for "BOC oddities" in other states/BOCs ...

Diamond State Telephone, the BOC for the state of Delaware, which is
now part of VeriZon (Bell Atlantic), was also likewise a *subsidiary*
of a neighbering BOC, in this case, Bell of Pennsylvania.

And also, the southesast PA VZ/Bell-Atlantic/Bell-of-PA "Philadelphia
Metro" LATA includes the *ENTIRE* state of Delaware within its
boundaries!

The "count" of the 22 BOCs included all four C&P state-sepcific telcos
uniquely: VA, DC, MD, West-VA

This "count" also included Diamond State Telephone and Nevada Bell
uniquely, even though each was actually a subsidiary of a larger
adjacent BOC.

Southern New England Telephone (for virtually all of CT; now part of
SBC), and Cincinnati Bell (in the Cincinnati OH Metro area, also
including the Covington KY area across the Ohio River, and also a very
small part of southeast Indiana which was "independent" but "homed" on
Cin.Bell's tandem and AT&T toll machines in Cincinnati) were
considered BOCs but not "full fledged" ones since AT&T owned a
minority (less than 50%) share of each.  These two were never counted
as part of the 22 BOCs.

SNET is now part of SBC, but in all cases, including Southwestern
Bell, the "Bell" logo has come down.

Cincinnati Bell (which is sort-of-independent) continues to have the
word "Belll" in its name and continues to use the 1970s era "Bell"
logo.

BellSouth continues to retain the 1970s-era "Bell" logo.

VeriZon (Bell Atlantic/NYNEX) has actually *introduced* the 1970s-era
"Bell" logo in previous *GTE/CONTEL* areas, such as on trucks,
buildings, payphone signage, etc! BTW, I read a report from the WSJ
about a week ago that VeriZon is seriously considering selling off
(GTE) Hawaiian Telco and also SOME of its NYTel/NYNEX/BA franchise
area in upstate NY!

When GTE took over Contel in 1992/93, they sold off SOME territory
(both old Contel and old GTE) to either Alltel or Citizens (depending
on the state), and also some sold to regional "consortiums" as
well. This re-organization continued into 1994. In a few cases, Alltel
sold some of its states' franchise areas to GTE, sort of a "swap".

WIth the merger of GTE(Contel) with BA(NYNEX) to form VeriZon in 2000,
some old GTE (and GTE-former-Contel) territory still under GTE until
2000 was sold off in 2000 and 2002, to Alltel or Citizens (same as ten
years previous), as well as to CenturyTel (based here in Louisiana),
to the newly created "Valor Telecom", to Iowa Network Services, and
all of GTE's twelve or thirteen service areas scattered in Alaska were
sold to ATEAC (Alaska Telephone Exchange Aquisitions Consortium),
owned by about six different long-standing Alaskan based (independent)
telcos, those former GTE ratecenters farmed out amongst the owners
forming ATEAC.

And back to "Bell" ...

AT&T/WECo did own a part of Bell Canada/NECo. This ownership was
significant in 1956, but as part of that consent decree, AT&T/WECO
sold off all of its ownership of Bell Canada/NECo over time, to where
in the early 1970s, AT&T owned only about 2% of Bell/NECo in
Canada. This last bit was sold off in early 1975, and Bell Canada was
now completely independent of AT&T in the US, and Bell Canada's NECO
was now renamed Northern Telecom, whcih has since competed against
AT&T/WECO/Lucent in the US for market share of switching and
customer-premesis equipment!

In the early 1970s, when Bell Canada/NECo was preparing for the
separation from AT&T/WECo/Bell Labs, they formed their own "Bell
Northern Research" organization ofr R&D. The BNR name/organization has
since been completely submerged into NortelNetworks in more recent
years.

BNR/NT designed the "SP-1" switch, similar to the (analog) ESS, used
in Canada and many independent telcos in the US back n the
1970s/80s. THey also developed the TOPS and DMS, which competed
against TSPS/OSPS and other WECO switching, even in Bell areas in the
US prior to 1984!

Bell Canada also has owned large parts of the telcos in other
provinces over the years as well, such as NBTel (New Brunswick), MTT
(Maritime Tel & Tel in Nova Scotia which in turn owned Prince Edward
Island Telco), and NewTel (Newfoundland). At one time in the 1930s/40s
era, these "Atlantic Province" telcos under Bell Canada even used the
"Bell System" logo of that era. Bell Canada itself was located in most
of (but not all of) Quebec and Ontario.

Linc Madison mentioned the El Paso TX area (now SBC), prior to
divestiture of 1984 being Mountain Bell (later US-West now
Qwest-LEC). And this part of Texas (El Paso Metro) has been MOUNTIAN
and NOT Central Time!

Also, that part of Illinois east of St.Louis at one time up until
around the 1970s, was part of Southwestern Bell, not Illinois Bell
(Ameritech), but now all of that is under SBC. These locations are
actually associated with the Southwestern Bell LATA for St.Louis MO
Metro, not any Illinois based LATA of Ameritech.

The northwestern tip of Indiana was until around the 1960s/70s, served
by Illinois (Bell) Telephone, not by Indiana Bell. Later, the BOC was
Indiana Bell, but this part of Indiana "homed" on Chicago and with
divestiture is associated with the Chicago IL Metro LATA. Of course,
both Indiada Bell and Illinois Bell were placed under the Ameritech
banner with 1984, and now that is part of SBC.

I also was told that up until around the early 1930s, the northeastern
(Hudson River area) part of New Jersey, right across the Hudson from
New York City and other NY state Hudson River suburbs, was part of the
BOC New York Telephone, but then transferred over to New Jersey Bell.

Also note that Panel and #1XB switching was used in this part of NJ
closest to New York City, while the rest of the state had SXS
switching (of course manual switchboards were still in use in many
places into the 1950s as well).

Idaho:

Excepting little small independents scattered throughout southern and
central Idaho, the southern part is the "IDAHO" LATA (or more specficially
it should be called the Boise ID LATA), a legacy of Mountain Bell.

The central part of Idaho is associated with the Spokane WA metro
LATA, a legacy of Pacific Northwest Bell.

Both Mountain Bell and Pac-NW Bell, along with "Northwestern Bell"
(serving the upper midwest of MN, IA, NE, SD, ND) became "US West"
with 1984, and since 2000 has been taken over by Qwest.

Northern Idaho (Coeur d'Alene, Rathdrum, Post Falls, etc) is virtually
exclusively GTE-now-VeriZon, and a GTE LATA unto itself.

Pacific Northwest Bell was created in the early 1960s (I think),
carved out of Pacific Telephone & Telegraph (now SBC's Pac*Bell). Pac
Tel & Tel shrunk down to just California (and its Bell Tel of Nevada
subsidiary).  But prior to the 1960s, Pacific Telephone (and
Telegraph) also served Oregon, Washington state, and the central part
of Idaho which "homed" on Spokane WA.

South Central Bell was created circa 1968/69, carved out of Southern
Bell.  So Bell retained NC, SC, GA, FL, while S.C.Bell took over KY,
TN, AL, MS, LA. There is an interesting history to the southestern
part of the US:

In the early part of the 20th Century, there was a BOC called
Cumberland Telephone & Telegraph, serving what was eventually to
become South Central Bell, except for Alabama. AL was part of the BOC
called "The Great Southern Telephone & Telegraph Company". These were
"merged" in the 1920s or 30s to become Southern Bell Telephone &
Telegraph. Then South Central Bell was carved out in the late 1960s,
taking over the old Cumberland Tel & Tel, this time including
Alabama. And then with 1984, BellSouth was created to take over both
SCBell and So.Bell. The legacy names were continued until around 1995,
but since then, BellSouth has become the common/public name for the
local operating telcos, in addition to the corporate name.

There is a lot more history/nostalgia/etc. that isn't discussed here.
There were *NUMEROUS* state-specific and sub-state BOC names in the
*REALLY* old days of the later 19th and early 20th Centuries,
eventually consolidating and buying/selling off with nearby
independents, until there was some "stability" of the 1920s thru 80s
era. But even that "stability" as mentioned above, didn't have its
"exceptions".

Maybe Wes Leatherock can share with us some of the pre-1930s era of
the Southwestern Bell states! :)


Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:50:35 EST
Subject: Re: Nevada Bell


In a message dated 2/28/04 4:03:29 PM Central Standard Time, 
TELECOM Digest Editor noted:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Speaking of the old Nevada Bell, did 
> you ever see their telephone book? One book *only* for the entire
> state.  After the front part of the book was devoted to the two or
> three large cities they serviced, then it went just page after page
> of toll station listings. The name of the town, followed by either one
> or two 'toll station' numbers, in one case I think five listings.
> Four of five such toll station communities listed on each page, and
> the same redundant instructions listed for each one: "To reach the
> subscribers in xxxx, dial your zero operator and ask for 'xxxx toll
> station number xx'.    PAT]

      The largest city in Nevada, Las Vegas, was not and is not served by 
Bell.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:46:58 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos as of 1984


And, so now here is a summary of the Twenty-Two BOCs as of the time of
divestiture, grouped according to their seven Regional Bell Holding
Corporations as created in the 1984 breakup of AT&T's Bell System.
The names of the BOCs and RBHCs are as of 1984, with some notes as to
recent developments.

(NYNEX, taken over by Bell Atlantic in the later 1990s, now VeriZon):

- New England Tel & Tel (ME, NH, VT, ME, RI)
- New York Tel (NY, and the towns of Greenwich & Byram in CT)

(Bell Atlantic, took over GTE and all renamed VeriZon in 2000):

- New Jersey Bell (NJ)
- Bell of Pennsylvania (PA)
  - Diamond State Telephone (DE); owned/managed by Bell of Pa.
and the four C&P Telcos:

 - C&P of MD
 - C&P of DC
 - C&P of VA
 - C&P of WVa.

(Ameritech, taken over by SBC in the later 1990s):

- Ohio Bell
- Indiana Bell
- Michigan Bell
- Illinois Bell
- Wisconsin Bell/Telephone

(BellSouth):

- Southern Bell (NC, SC, GA, FL)
- South Central Bell (KY, TN, AL, MS, LA)

(Southwestern Bell, now simply part of SBC):

- Southwestern Bell (MO, KS, OK, AR, TX)

(US West, merged with Qwest-LD in 2000, assuming the Qwest name):

- Northwestern Bell (MN, IA, NE, SD, ND)
- Mountain Bell (MT, CO, NM, AZ, UT, WY, southern ID)
- Pacific Northwest Bell (OR, WA, central strip of ID)

(Pacific Telesis):

- Pacific Bell (CA)
  - Nevada Bell (NV); owned/managed by Pacific Bell

Note that Southern New England Telephone (for virtually all of CT)
and Cincinnati Bell (for the Cincinnati OH Metro area including suburbs
in KY and IN as well) are *NOT* counted as part of the 22 BOCs, since
AT&T owned a minority share of these two. Bell Canada and its holdings
were no longer considered corporately part of AT&T/US-Bell as of 1975,
and are not included in the tables above.


Mark J Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA

------------------------------

Date: 29 Feb 2004 02:09:34 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! Re: Vonage Question [was: VoIP Phone]
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John, aren't you involved with the
> sewers there in Trumansburg any longer? You used to have that as part
> of one of your several .sig files.    PAT]

Don't worry, I'm still the sewer commissioner.  But ask me again in
April.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What's going to happen in April, John?
Are the good citizens of Trumansburg going to put you out to pasture,
or perhaps flush you down the sewer? I wish I could figure out how the
sewer service fee here in Independence is handled. All I know is they
take the average of your water consumption during January and February
then again in November and December of each year and with that four
month average they then compute the sewer service charge. They take
those four months and multiply it by some factor to calculate the 
sewer. My water bill is typically just a few dollars each month, but
the sewer is normally two or three times higher. Then there is an 
additional charge on the bill each month for 'trash collection fee'
which has been $10.75 per month as long as I can remember. It always
comes in total to between $40-45 per month no matter how little water
I use, which is the only part of it that gets metered. One day when
I was down at City Hall paying my bill I asked the lady how they 
calculated it. She explained it but it still is a mystery to me. PAT] 

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    In Naming Computer Viruses, Speed and Confusion Rule (Monty Solomon)
    Phones Under Lock and Code (TechNews.com) (Monty Solomon)
    EFFector 17.6: Tell MEPs to Reserve Tough New IP Enforcement (M Solomon)
    EPIC Alert 11.04 (Monty Solomon)
    Enthusiasts Call Web Feed Next Big Thing (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo-Like Devices to Get Booster Shot (Monty Solomon)
    The Real TiVo (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers (Herb Stein)
    Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers (Wesrock@aol.com)
    Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos as of 1984 (Nick Landsberg)
    Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos as of 1984 (Joseph)
    Re: Nevada Bell (Steven J Sobol)
    Re: Nevada; Other BOC Oddities (Wesrock@aol.com)
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Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 02:47:06 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: In Naming Computer Viruses, Speed and Confusion Rule


Survival Of the Catchiest

By Mike Musgrove
Washington Post Staff Writer

Early one Monday afternoon, Craig Schmugar, virus research manager at
computer security firm Network Associates Inc., was at his desk taking
a quick look at the programming inside a new computer worm that his
team had just discovered, still in the early stages of circulating the
Web.

As Schmugar scanned through the worm's deciphered code, his adrenaline
started pumping. This one had ambitions.

The worm disguised itself as a bounced piece of e-mail and had an
innovative way of collecting addresses, looking for more potential
victims. Schmugar had a feeling this one was going to create a lot of
trouble; it was time to sound the alarms -- but first he needed to
attach a name. What to call it?

Antivirus companies compete with each other fervently in the hopes 
that their customers will hear about the latest computer-based threat 
from them first. The result is that when there's an outbreak of a new 
virus or worm, companies often race to offer competing names for the 
same bug.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6924-2004Feb25.html

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/02/29/confusion_reins_in_naming_of_viruses_that_bug_computers/

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 02:55:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Phones Under Lock and Code (TechNews.com)


By Mike Musgrove
Washington Post Staff Writer

Since last fall, cell-phone users have been able, with some patience, 
to take their phone numbers with them when they change carriers. But 
it's still tricky to move a cell phone itself from one service to the 
next -- even when both carriers use the same wireless standard.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14265-2004Feb28.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:50:31 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EFFector 17.6: Tell MEPs to Reserve Tough New IP Enforcement 


EFFector    Vol. 17, No. 6       February 25, 2004   donna@eff.org

A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation  ISSN 1062-9424
In the 281st Issue of EFFector:

  * Action Alert: Tell MEPs to Reserve Tough New IP Enforcement 
    Tools for Real Criminals
  * EFF Releases File Sharing Recommendations: Suggests Voluntary 
    Collective Licensing at Future of Music Event   
  * Court Endorses Ban on DVD Copy Technology 
  * Trademark Law Shouldn't Prejudice Internet Ads
  * Let the Sun Set on PATRIOT - Section 206
  * Deep Links (13): Critics Hail, EMI Targets DJ Danger Mouse's 
    "Grey Album"
  * Staff Calendar: 03.02.04 - Seth Schoen speaks at OpenBSD 
    Users Group, San Francisco, CA; 03.03.04 - Fred von Lohmann 
    speaks at Digital Piracy Dilemma Panel, London, UK; 
    03.04.04 - Gwen Hinze speaks at Digital Divide: New
    Currents in Digital Downloading, Davis, CA
  * Administrivia

http://www.eff.org/effector/17/6.php 

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:51:38 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EPIC Alert 11.04


=======================================================================
                             E P I C  A l e r t
=======================================================================
Volume 11.04                                          February 25, 2004
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                              Published by the
                Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
                              Washington, D.C.

              http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.04.html

======================================================================
Table of Contents
======================================================================

[1] Supreme Court Sides With Government on Privacy Act Damages
[2] Agencies Issue Reports on CAPPS II, JetBlue Disclosure
[3] EPIC Testifies on Medical Privacy and Banking
[4] EPIC Demands FBI Database Accuracy
[5] Courts Reject Business "Free Speech" Challenges to Privacy Law
[6] News in Brief
[7] EPIC Bookstore: The Patriot Act Game
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events

http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.04.html

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Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:07:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Enthusiasts Call Web Feed Next Big Thing


By Frank Bajak, AP Technology Editor, 2/27/2004

NEW YORK -- E-mail is crippled, concussed by an irrepressible spam 
stream. Web surfing can be equally confounding, a wobbly wade through 
bursts of pop-ups and loudmouthed video ads.

And that may explain the excitement these days over a somewhat crude 
but nifty software tool that automatically delivers updated 
information to your computer directly from your favorite Web sites.

Enthusiasts see these Web feeds as sketching the outline of the next 
Net revolution.

The technology behind them is called RSS and I rely on it daily to 
consult The New York Times, the BBC, CNET News, Slashdot and a few 
dozen other Web sites that employ RSS to make the very latest news 
stories or bits of commentary available for the plucking.

Aided by software on my computer that goes out and retrieves my 
feeds, I swiftly sort through headlines and summaries. By clicking on 
included hyperlinks, I can visit originating sites for more detail.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/02/27/enthusiasts_call_web_feed_next_big_thing/

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Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:50:52 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo-Like Devices to Get Booster Shot


By Ed Frauenheim
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Having proved their popularity with American couch potatoes, digital
video recorders are about to get a boost in features that will allow
them to zap several video streams throughout networked homes.

Engineers in the consumer electronics lab of hard-drive maker Maxtor, 
for example, are working on DVR-type devices that can record or 
broadcast at least six media streams at a time. That compares to 
three streams in current DVRs, which are hard-drive-based machines 
that can record video and temporarily pause live broadcasts. 
Three-stream machines can simultaneously record two live channels 
while playing a previously recorded program.

DVRs in development not only will be able to serve up video in 
multiple rooms at the same time, but also handle data from a home 
video security system, said Jasbir Sidhu, director of engineering for 
consumer electronics products at Maxtor. The coming DVRs may hit the 
market sometime in the next 18 months, he said.

The strategy of making DVRs more powerful and comprehensive could 
help cement their place in the household electronics pantheon and 
hold off competition from PC makers that have unfurled plans to put 
modified desktops on top of televisions.


http://news.com.com/2100-1041-5164465.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 02:32:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Real TiVo


By  Lance Ulanoff

One of Amazon's most popular technology books last month was Hacking
TiVo. The book's enormous popularity intrigues me because of what it
says about TiVo digital video recorders: 1) Geeks love the TiVo; and
2) Many of these same gadget-happy TiVo owners are not satisfied with
TiVo in its off-the-shelf incarnation.

I've spent many envious minutes listening to people talk about 
TiVo-ing their favorite shows, and I've wanted to get in on the 
action for quite some time. I'm also aware that many people think 
TiVo needs upgrading-myself included. With that in mind, I turned to 
WeaKnees.com.com, a TiVo upgrade and parts company. WeaKnees.com 
takes TiVo Series 2 systems, and throws in another hard drive, 
bumping up the storage capacity from 80 hours (at lowest visual 
quality) to as many as 320 hours.


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1538555,00.asp

------------------------------

From: Herb Stein <herb@herbstein.com>
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:35:37 -0600


Actually, I can't back it up, but I don't think it happened at
divestiture.

Linc Madison <lincmad@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:telecom23.94.7@telecom-digest.org:

> In article <telecom23.93.5@telecom-digest.org>, Al Gillis
> <alg@aracnet.com> wrote:

>>  --- It's interesting to me that in some cases many states were served
>> by one company (Mountain Bell and Northwestern Bell, for example) but
>> in lots of cases a Bell company was confined to a single state.  I
>> suppose this was because of taxes or regulation but it might just have
>> been some agreements made with previous owners as companies were
>> purchased before the Kingsbury Commitment came into the fore.

>> So thanks!!  PAT!  MARK!  Anything to add to Nicks information?

> There was also at least one exception in the other direction: almost
> all of the "Bell" areas of Texas were in the territory of Southwestern
> Bell, but the westernmost tip, the area around El Paso, was served by
> Mountain Bell. (Roughly the same part of Texas that is in the Mountain
> Time Zone instead of Central.) That area was transferred to
> Southwestern Bell, now SBC, as part of the Bell System breakup.

> Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, California  *  lincmad@suespammers.org
> <http://www.LincMad.com> * primary e-mail: Telecom at LincMad dot com
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Herb Stein
Herb@herbstein.com

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:19:11 EST
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers


In a message dated Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:25:12 GMT Tony P. 
<kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> writes:

> Rhode Island is an oddity in that there is the big book that is
> distributed to Providence rate centers (Ie. those served by PRVDRIWA
> and PRVDRIBR which amounts to roughly 85% of the numbers in the
> state!) and covers all numbers in the state, while outlying
> communities get community directories and in cases have to request the
> Providence book.

> Why they don't just distribute one book to the entire state I'll never
> know.

The decision is usually based on maximizing Yellow Pages advertising 
revenue.

> Last I knew there was the Providence book, the Pawtucket book, one for 
> Wickford, Newport, and Woonsocket. 


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos as of 1984
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 03:45:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Mark J Cuccia wrote:

> And, so now here is a summary of the Twenty-Two BOCs as of the time of
> divestiture, grouped according to their seven Regional Bell Holding
> Corporations as created in the 1984 breakup of AT&T's Bell System.
> The names of the BOCs and RBHCs are as of 1984, with some notes as to
> recent developments.


[ SNIP - Good list Mark ]

Let's not forget the "subsidiaries of subsidiaries" which also were
around.  I don't know of how many there might have been but I first
joined the "Bell System" with .... [drumroll]

Empire City Subway Co. Ltd.

It was (is still?) a wholly owned subsidiary of the what was then NY
Tel and is now Verizon.  Way back when, circa, 1890, they signed a
contract with the city of NY to provide conduits for "low-voltage
electric service".  Eventually, they were bought out by NY Tel, but
still retained their corporate identity, and had to sell conduit
("underground pipe", thus the term "subway") space to all bona-fide
communications providers.  Officially, they "sold" space to NY Tel,
Western Union and the cable companies, but the huge majority was for
NY Tel.

The contract was a sweet deal.  ECS was allowed to make "up to 10%
profit" with the rest going to the City of New York.  There were many
years when the "profit" was 9.98% :)


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos as of 1984
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:42:39 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:46:58 CST, Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
wrote:

> (NYNEX, taken over by Bell Atlantic in the later 1990s, now VeriZon):

> - New England Tel & Tel (ME, NH, VT, ME, RI)
> - New York Tel (NY, and the towns of Greenwich & Byram in CT)

New England Tel & Tel also MA!

           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Nevada Bell
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:46:33 -0600


Wesrock@aol.com wrote:

>> the same redundant instructions listed for each one: "To reach the
>> subscribers in xxxx, dial your zero operator and ask for 'xxxx toll
>> station number xx'.    PAT]

>      The largest city in Nevada, Las Vegas, was not and is not served by 
> Bell.

And Nevada is not a heavily populated state. Drive from my house in
Apple Valley to Las Vegas up Interstate 15 and you drive through a
whole lot of nothing up to the state line, and even then there's
nothing but a few casinos until you hit the Vegas area. (It's a three
hour drive.)

Other parts of Nevada border the Death Valley area of California --
also not a very heavily populated area :)


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:44:55 EST
Subject: Re: Nevada; Other BOC Oddities


In a message dated Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:45:11 CST Mark J Cuccia
<mcuccia@tulane.edu> writes:

> Maybe Wes Leatherock can share with us some of the pre-1930s era of
> the Southwestern Bell states! :)

     At one time before I retired I could have found this information,
but now I can recall only a small part of it.

     There was a Missouri & Kansas Telephone Company, a Bell company,
which also extended its operations into Oklahoma Territory.  Meantime
a group of four businessmen in my home town of Perry, Oklahoma,
organized a telephone company to operate a line between Perry and
Pawnee and also a local exchange in Perry.  This was, as I recall,
originally named the Arkansas Valley Telephone Company, later changing
its name to the Pioneer Telephone Company.

     The Pioneer Telephone Company expanded to various parts of the
territory, including to Oklahoma City, where both Pioneer and M & K
had exchanges.  Apparently both were losing money in Oklahoma, and in
1905 the Bell officers agreed to provide major financing to the
Pioneer Company and turn over the M&K properties in Oklahoma to it.
The Pioneer Telephone Company changed its name to Pioneer Telephone &
Telegraph Company and thus became part of the Bell System.

     At one time, in the historical files in my office, I had the
original "license agreement" between Pioneer T&T and AT&T, the
document that made a company part of the "Bell System."

     Three of the four men who organized the original company in Perry
became executives of what eventually was merged into Southwestern
Bell, one of them become SWBT president.

      As I recall, M & K did not include the eastern part of Missouri
(St.Louis area), but I don't remember the name of the company that
operated there.

      There was a Southwestern Telephone & Telegraph Company, which is
seems to me operated in Texas, and perhaps into Arkansas.

      In 1917 all the various companies in the territory took the name
"Southwestern Bell Telephone Company," but at least at first continued
as separate corporations.  Exactly when they were merged could never
be determined with exactitude.

      The various corporations continued in existence, however.
Probably in the 1970s or early 1980s the lawyers asked me to look into
this, since someone had sued the Southwestern Bell Telephone Company,
an Oklahoma corporation.  This corporation still had a legal existence
and had an annual meeting once a year in the state vice president's
office.

      The lawyers wanted to, and did, reply that SWBT, an Oklahoma
corporation, could not have been at fault since it had no employees,
no motor vehicles, and no operations.

      The other lawyer eventually figured out he should sue the
Southwestern Bell Telephone Company, a Missouri corporation.

      As I recall, there were over 100 telephone companies in Oklahoma
which eventually became part of the Pioneer T&T Company, later
Southwestern Bell (Oklahoma) and, of course, even later, the Oklahoma
operations of SWBT (Missouri).

      Probably similar aggregations occurred in the other states,
which would suggest more than 1,000 companies merged or were bought
out to form SWBT.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

------------------------------

From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Southern/South Central Bell Border, was Re: Nevada; BOC Oddities
Organization: Roamer1 Communications - Dunwoody, GA, USA
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:34:41 GMT


On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:45:11 CST, Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
wrote:

> South Central Bell was created circa 1968/69, carved out of Southern
> Bell.  So Bell retained NC, SC, GA, FL, while S.C.Bell took over KY,
> TN, AL, MS, LA. There is an interesting history to the southestern
> part of the US:

<snip>

There were areas of Georgia along the Tennessee and Alabama state
lines, and a tiny part of the southwestern corner of North Carolina,
that were technically part of Southern Bell territory, but were for
actually served by South Central Bell after the SB/SCB split more or
less under "contract" with Southern Bell:

- Rossville, Tennga, and McCaysville, GA (adjacent to Chattanooga,
  Benton, and Copperhill, TN respectively)
- Liberty (Cherokee County), NC (adjacent to Copperhill, TN)
- Georgetown, GA (adjacent to Eufaula, AL)

All these areas are served by central offices in TN/AL except for part
of the Rossville rate center which is served by a CO in Georgia (which
also serves customers in Tennessee and has a CLLI starting with
"CHTGTN" = Chattanooga TN even though it's physically in Georgia.)

The bills sent to customers in those areas, including my parents and
later myself, said in very small letters "agent for Southern Bell"
under the SCB name.  When everything was folded into BellSouth
Telecommunications, the SCB/SB split went away along with the bill
verbiage, but the border areas are to this day treated as part of
BellSouth-TN/-AL, and customers in the border areas are charged for
most, but not all, services under TN and AL tariffed pricing, not GA
or NC tariffed pricing.  (Which state's rates apply to what is rather
inconsistent -- for instance, customers in the GA border areas near
Chattanooga are charged TN rates for directory assistance but GA rates
for operator-handled calls.)


Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/

"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

------------------------------

Date: 29 Feb 2004 04:17:32 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The next several messages in this issue
of the Digest did *not* begin here but were part of a series of 
messages between John Levine and Mark J. Cuccia which were copied to
the Digest, by one or the other of them.  PAT]

> I read a report from the WSJ about a week ago that VeriZon is
> seriously considering selling off (GTE) Hawaiian Telco and also SOME
> of its NYTel/NYNEX/BA franchise area in upstate NY!

Yes, it said that VZ is thinking of selling Hawaiian Tel and their NY
territory outside of metro NY.

Hawaiian Tel I can understand, since Hawaii is a long way from the
rest of the US, but we're all scratching our heads about upstate NY.
It's not isolated, being adjacent to VT, MA, PA, and of course
downstate all of which are dominated by VZ, and it's not particularly
expensive to serve compared to other rural areas like, say, Maine.
It's not even all that rural, since it includes Buffalo, Syracuse, and
Albany, each of which are considerably larger than any city in Maine.

We also can't figure out who they plan to sell it to.  The obvious
candidate would be Citizens, which recently swallowed a lot of upstate
telcos including the one that serves Rochester, but they're in the
midst of a sale of their own and aren't about to buy anything.  Alltel
has only a few small towns, Sprint has nothing in NY at all.

The best guess we can come up with is that they think that without
downstate, a different owner would get more USF money.  Or one cynic
thinks that VZ is run by BA guys who only care about Centrex, and
there's not enough Centrex upstate to make them happy.

And if they want to sell Hawaiian Tel, why aren't they selling Codetel?

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 05:58:17 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Verizon says that Hawaii and upstate NY are for sale


John Levine wrote:

> Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

>> I read a report from the WSJ about a week ago that VeriZon is
>> seriously considering selling off (GTE) Hawaiian Telco and also
>> SOME of its NYTel/NYNEX/BA franchise area in upstate NY!

> Yes, it said that VZ is thinking of selling Hawaiian Tel and their NY
> territory outside of metro NY.

> Hawaiian Tel I can understand, since Hawaii is a long way from the
> rest of the US

They got out of the dozen or so legacy-GTE ratecenters scattered
around Alaska about the time GTE/Contel + BA/NYNEX => VeriZon (circa
2000).

So I guess now Hawaii is falling into that same category of being "too
far away", according to the current VZ corporate mindset?

> But we're all scratching our heads about upstate NY. It's not isolated,
> being adjacent to VT, MA, PA, and of course downstate all of which are
> dominated by VZ, and it's not particularly expensive to serve compared
> to other rural areas like, say, Maine. It's not even all that rural,
> since it includes Buffalo, Syracuse, and Albany, each of which are
> considerably larger than any city in Maine.

I wonder if they intend to sell the "rural" areas of upsate NY, while
retaining Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany (Tri-Cities), etc?

John, what does your local media (radio/TV/newspapers) say in any
detail about "upstate New York", regarding NY Tel/ NYNEX/ Bell
Atlantic/ VeriZon and plans to sell off certain ratecenters?

> We also can't figure out who they plan to sell it to.  The obvious
> candidate would be Citizens, which recently swallowed a lot of upstate
> telcos including the one that serves Rochester, but they're in the
> midst of a sale of their own and aren't about to buy anything.  Alltel
> has only a few small towns, Sprint has nothing in NY at all.

Does CenturyTel have any territory in NY State? And also, what might
Citizens' Tel. sellng?

> The best guess we can come up with is that they think that without
> downstate, a different owner would get more USF money.  Or one cynic
> thinks that VZ is run by BA guys who only care about Centrex, and
> there's not enough Centrex upstate to make them happy.

> And if they want to sell Hawaiian Tel, why aren't they selling Codetel?

And regarding "legacy-GTE" areas outside of the
continental/conterminous/ mainland US (CONUS, in military/government
terminology) -- i.e., legacy GTE service areas (at one time or
another) in the Caribbean, the Pacific, and Canada:

CODETEL, in the Dominican Republic, a "legacy GTE" area going back many
decades! An acronymn being Espanol, "Compania Dominicana de Telefonos".

Also in the Caribbean, GTE-now-VeriZon also took over (or merged with)
Puerto Rico Telephone Company/Authority as well a few years ago.

And out in the Pacific:

The Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan, Tinian, Rota, etc.) but *NOT*
Guam, the LEC there is known as "Micronesian Telcommunications" (not
to be confused with the one-time US-and-UN possession or territory of
the Federated States of Micronesia) is also part of the
GTE-now-VeriZon organization.

GTE's far-flung "empire" once included the Philippines Long Distance
Telephone Company, the largest of several telcos/telecomms serving
this once-US possesion. PLDT was a General Telephone System property
from the mid-1950s until the mid-1960s, at which time GT&E wanted to
take over the Mutual Telephone Company of Hawaii, as well as the
recently formed (to merge numerous scattered independent telcos in
eastern Quebec), QuebecTel. I would think that maybe the
FCC/FTC/etc. required or maybe "suggested" to GT&E to sell off PLDT
before taking over the Mutual-HTC.

(GTE's dozen or so service areas in Alaska and the year 2000 sale of
them to ATEAC, is mentioned earlier in this post).

And now for "north-of-the-border, up-Canada-way":

Telus in Canada has a relationship with GTE-now-VeriZon through the
old (mostly) GTE-held "British Columbia Telephone Company" (BC Tel)
which merged with (Alberta's) Telus (formerly AGT Alberta Government
Telpehones, and also Edmonton Telephones) -- BC Tel (now part of Telus)
covering "most" of BC (but not the northern section especially), and
also GTE-held QuebecTel of *eastern* Quebec. In Spring 2000, at the
time the BZ/NYNEX and GTE/Contel merger took effect to become VeriZon,
GTE's QuebecTel and Telus agreed to have GTE's QuebecTel reorganized
as now being under Telus as TelusQuebec. GTE-now-VZ still owns a
noticeable but now minority share of Telus.

And back here in "CONUS", as mentioned in my previous post, VeriZon
sold off several legacy-GTE areas to Citizens' Tel, Alltel, CenturyTel
in the 2000 to 2002 timeframe, right after GTE and BA merged effective
April 2000. Some GTE area (parts of TX, all GTE in OK and NM, and
Texarkana AR along with Texarkana TX) were sold off into the newly
created "Valor Telecom" (other areas of GTE in Texas have been
retained by VeriZon), and all of what was GTE in Iowa was sold to
"Iowa Telecom" formerly known as INS, Iowa Network Services, which
started off in the 1980s as a support group to the numerous small
independent telcos in the state, to provide them with a centralized
method of handling "Equal Access" dialing and routing with the new and
numerous competitive LD carriers. INS-now-Iowa Telecom has also become
a provider of other telecom network-based services, such as Operator
and Directory Assistance services, tandem homing and routings, etc,
and now is an incumbent (independent) LEC with the purchase of the
legacy-GTE service areas in Iowa.

Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA

------------------------------

Date: 29 Feb 2004 10:22:44 -0500
From: John R Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale


> I wonder if they intend to sell the "rural" areas of upsate NY, while
> retaining Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany (Tri-Cities), etc?

The WSJ piece said all of upstate, including the cities.

> John, what does your local media (radio/TV/newspapers) say

Nothing.  I haven't heard anything other than the WSJ piece.

> Does CenturyTel have any territory in NY State? And also, what might
> Citizens' Tel. sellng?

Century Tel has nothing in the northeast at all.  Their closest
property is 83,000 lines in Ohio, an ex-Centel property.  The 2.5
lines that VZ is thinking of selling is bigger than all of Century Tel
put together.  It'd be a very big gulp.

Citizens seems to be selling the whole company in a leveraged buyout.
An LBO involves taking on vast amounts of debt, which means that they
couldn't buy anything else any time soon and are more likely to be
selling bits around the edges to pay down the debt.  Other than that
they'd be the obvious candidate.  They're only a little bigger than
Century Tel, but they have over 550,000 lines in upstate NY already.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be http://iecc.com/johnl 
Sewer Commissioner
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:00:06 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: "Upstate NY" (re VeriZon plans to sell...)


John R Levine wrote:

> Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

>> I wonder if they intend to sell the "rural" areas of upsate NY, while
>> retaining Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany (Tri-Cities), etc?

> The WSJ piece said all of upstate, including the cities.

Now I wonder where the "dividing line" might be?

I assume that all of NPA 914 (Westchester County) and a good chunk of
the split off 845, will most likely be retained by VZ. At least the
NYCity LATA #132 part of NPA 845 ...

I wonder if Poughkeepsie NY will stay VZ or not? They are a separate
LATA, and split to NPA 845 from 91 a few years back.

I guess everything around Albany-Troy-Schnectady and northward/westward, 
anything that isn't the NYCity Metro LATA #132 (I still wonder about 
Poughkeepsie), will most likely be sold off...

What would be interesting is if Qwest-LEC or SBC (or even BellSouth)
would take it over! If BellSouth were to take it over, what *NAME*
would BellSouth Corporation use for marketing and as the local
operating company, as this area is *NOT* "south"! :-)

>> John, what does your local media (radio/TV/newspapers) say

> Nothing.  I haven't heard anything other than the WSJ piece.

I would have been suprised that there was nothing mentioned locally in
the news/press/media, but lately I've seen stories elsewhere from
other "internet" based sources, other than the "local" news sources
even those with webpages of recent local news.

On Friday 20 February 2004, the Illinois Commerce Commission announced
that they had approved the overlay of NPA 815 in northern IL (except
Chicago Metro), to take place "sometime forthcoming, when the new NPA
code and numbering resources would be needed". (Some of us estimate
that it might be 2005). However, I couldn't find ANYTHING on this in
online news sources that were "local" to Chicago or northern Illinois!

The Press Release from the ICC (which I transcribed here last week)
also mentioned that 779 would be the new overlay area code as assigned
by Neustar-NANPA. This was going to be the code that some of us had
"guessed" to be a "relief" code for NPA 815 whenever it would need
relief in the future ...

Anyhow ... even Neustar-NANPA (as of Sunday 29 February 2004) doesn't
mention anything of NPA 779 or that 815 is being overlaid, on the
"public" area of their website. No mention in the "area codes" lookup
and reports section, nothing in the "press release" section, etc.

>> Does CenturyTel have any territory in NY State? And also, what might
>> Citizens' Tel. sellng?

> Century Tel has nothing in the northeast at all.  Their closest
> property is 83,000 lines in Ohio, an ex-Centel property.  The 2.5 lines
> that VZ is thinking of selling is bigger than all of Century Tel put
> together.  It'd be a very big gulp.

CenturyTel does indeed tend to stick with rural areas and smaller
towns.  But they have been growing over the past ten-plus years
though!

> Citizens seems to be selling the whole company in a leveraged buyout.
> An LBO involves taking on vast amounts of debt, which means that they
> couldn't buy anything else any time soon and are more likely to be
> selling bits around the edges to pay down the debt.  Other than that
> they'd be the obvious candidate.  They're only a little bigger than
> Century Tel, but they have over 550,000 lines in upstate NY already.

That *IS* interesting about Citizens' Tel. I wasn't aware of thier
current financial situation!

You'd mentioned in the earlier post that Alltel does have a few small
towns in NY. I wonder if they might consider taking over all of that
chunk of upstate NY (NYTel/NYNEX/BA/VZ)?

> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl@iecc.com

Thanks for the additional info on the VZ "upstate NY" situation as you
know it to be!

Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA


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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Technology Triumphs 'Do Not Call' List: Block ALL Unwanted Calls (Chase)
    Re: In Naming Computer Viruses Speed and Confusion Rule (Gene Berkowitz)
    Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos and their Subs and their Subs. (Gillis)
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    Re: The Real TiVo (Clarence Dold)
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    Re: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale (Sammy@nospam)
    Re: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale (John Levine)
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From: Ken@Privacy-Call.com (Ken Chase)
Subject: Technology Triumphs 'Do Not Call' List - Block ALL Unwanted Calls
Date: 29 Feb 2004 18:19:56 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


In response to numerous questions about the 'Do Not Call' List and
blocking unwanted calls, we are posting information about the latest
release, the http://privacycall.com/pages/caller-id-screener-intro.htm

TECHNOLOGY TRIUMPHS OVER FTC'S "DO NOT CALL" LIST
New Caller ID Screener Allows Only 'Invited' Callers to Ring - Free of
Fees

(SCOTTSDALE, AZ) Telemarketing companies and exempted groups may have
found loopholes in the new National Do Not Call List, but
telecom automation groundbreaker Bill Sasso of Digitone Communications
thwarts them again with his latest invention, the
http://privacycall.com/pages/id-screener-3.htm Privacy Call ID
Screener

A small, tabletop device designed for customers who subscribe to
Caller ID, the Privacy Call ID Screener allows only 'Invited' callers
to ring their phone. All other callers are handled as the consumer
chooses.

Although the device is customizable, its use is simple. Callers on the
consumer's 'Invited' list ring through without interference, while
anonymous or unfamiliar callers are asked to identify themselves or
leave a message, without ringing the phone. Callers on the consumer's
'Excluded' list cannot ring the phone or leave a message, including
cell phone, out-of-state, and international callers.

"We call it 'Caller ID with attitude!'" says Sasso. "Now consumers can
choose who can ring their phone, and when, without the limits and
extra monthly charges from your telephone service provider. Using the
unit's Caller ID screen, it only takes a push of a button to add
callers to your 'Included' or 'Excluded' list. And, using the
'Wildcard' feature, the consumer can 'Invite' or 'Exclude' entire area
codes, prefixes or number sets. With the ID Screener, exemptions like
those to the National 'Do Not Call' List simply do not exist."

A snap to install, the Privacy Call ID Screener prevents telemarketing
calls, predictive dialers, misdialed numbers, hang-up calls, false
faxes, pollsters, political organizations, exes, creditors and anyone
else the consumer doesn't want to talk to ... ever again.

Additional benefits include a call-forwarding feature that, on a
single line, seamlessly connects 'Invited' callers to a cell phone or
alternate location, as well as a 'Do Not Disturb' mode. This feature
prevents all callers from ringing the phone during set hours, such as
bedtime and study time, either on a one-time or daily basis.

"The ID Screener is particularly useful for people who keep unusual
hours, such as those working the graveyard or swing shifts," says
Sasso. "During 'Do Not Disturb' hours, 'Invited' callers can leave a
message, but the phone will not ring, ensuring total privacy." A
secret emergency code is provided in case of emergencies.

The Privacy Call ID Screener is the latest addition to the Privacy
Call series, designed to help residential consumers and business
owners better manage their telephone communications and reduce monthly
telephone charges. Consisting of six different models, Privacy Call
Series products are available at the Privacy Call website 
<a href="http://www.Privacy-Call.com">www.Privacy-Call.com</a> or by
calling (888) 833-5333.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This sounds a great deal to me like the
old Privcode machine, which was popular back in the 1970's. It was
attached to the phone line, and was sensitive enough to go off hook at
the slightest hint of a change in voltage, so the phones seldom if 
ever actually rang. Instead, this machine -- the Privcode -- would
announce its intentions and demand that the caller enter or speak his
Privcode ID number (actually, it was referred to as the 'extension'
number desired by the caller. The proper three digit 'extension'
allowed the phones to ring. Otherwise, the caller got transferred to
an answering machine. Really a great device, and manufactured in those
days by IMM (International Mobile Machines) of Bala Cynwyd, PA. It
is no longer available I don't think. Perhaps this new machine which
Ken Chase describes is a good replacement.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: In Naming Computer Viruses, Speed and Confusion Rule
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:29:23 -0500


In article <telecom23.96.1@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com says:

> Survival Of the Catchiest

> By Mike Musgrove
> Washington Post Staff Writer

> Early one Monday afternoon, Craig Schmugar, virus research manager at
> computer security firm Network Associates Inc., was at his desk taking
> a quick look at the programming inside a new computer worm that his
> team had just discovered, still in the early stages of circulating the
> Web.

> As Schmugar scanned through the worm's deciphered code, his adrenaline
> started pumping. This one had ambitions.

> The worm disguised itself as a bounced piece of e-mail and had an
> innovative way of collecting addresses, looking for more potential
> victims. Schmugar had a feeling this one was going to create a lot of
> trouble; it was time to sound the alarms -- but first he needed to
> attach a name. What to call it?

> Antivirus companies compete with each other fervently in the hopes 
> that their customers will hear about the latest computer-based threat 
> from them first. The result is that when there's an outbreak of a new 
> virus or worm, companies often race to offer competing names for the 
> same bug.

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6924-2004Feb25.html

> http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/02/29/confusion_reins_in_naming_of_viruses_that_bug_computers/

All the more reason why these should be reduced to a CRC32.  "Kuul"
names just glorify these pests further.

--Gene


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It really is sad, isn't it, that there 
have to be entire departments at companies these days to deal with the
massive amounts of viruses (or do you say virii?) and spam floating
around. It is also very sad that the 'general public' neither
understands or seems to believe how bad these problems have gotten. In
fact, the same 'general public' is a big part of the problem with 
their deliberate 'cc: everyone-I-Can Think of' jokes and anecdotal
stories.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: 29 Feb 2004 17:55:14 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote: 
 
> I'm pretty sure that Diamond State telephone was Delaware.

Yes, that's Delaware.  For some reason, Diamond State Telephone was
operated as a unit of Bell Telephone Co. of Penna, even though I think
it was legally a completely separate company.  Even today, Delaware is
part of the Phila area LATA.

If you look at a map of lower NJ along the Delaware River, you'll
noticed the border is along the river shoreline, not in the middle.
There's a part of of the land on the Jersey side that is actually part
of Delaware (near National Park, NJ).

While we're on the subject of strange geography, there's a little
island off New Foundland, St. Pierre IIRC, that is completely part of
France with no connection to Canada.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Speaking of the old Nevada Bell, did 
> you ever see their telephone book? One book *only* for the entire
> state.  After the front part of the book was devoted to the two or
> three large cities they serviced, then it went just page after page
> of toll station listings. The name of the town, followed by either one
> or two 'toll station' numbers, in one case I think five listings.
> Four of five such toll station communities listed on each page, and
> the same redundant instructions listed for each one: "To reach the
> subscribers in xxxx, dial your zero operator and ask for 'xxxx toll
> station number xx'.    PAT]

I guess today it no longer looks that like.

What I find peculiar is looking at a road map of Nevada, with 
numerous areas outlined and marked "danger zone", but no explanation
of what the danger is or how one should stay safe and clear.

As to "Rhode Island and Planataions", could someone explain
that name?

Lastly, I checked Google and if I read it correctly, there was stuff
on Enterprise numbers posted back in 1998.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Were the Google references in 1998
messages *about* Enterprise, or were they cases of people still having
them in service? I know after 800 service started, Bell continued to
offer Enterprise as a grandfathered arrangement for several more
years.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos and their Subs and their Subs...
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:51:20 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.96.10@telecom-digest.org:

> Mark J Cuccia wrote:

>> And, so now here is a summary of the Twenty-Two BOCs as of the time of
>> divestiture, grouped according to their seven Regional Bell Holding
>> Corporations as created in the 1984 breakup of AT&T's Bell System.
>> The names of the BOCs and RBHCs are as of 1984, with some notes as to
>> recent developments.

> [ SNIP - Good list Mark ]

> Let's not forget the "subsidiaries of subsidiaries" which also were
> around.  I don't know of how many there might have been but I first
> joined the "Bell System" with .... [drumroll]

> Empire City Subway Co. Ltd.

> It was (is still?) a wholly owned subsidiary of the what was then NY
> Tel and is now Verizon.  Way back when, circa, 1890, they signed a
> contract with the city of NY to provide conduits for "low-voltage
> electric service".  Eventually, they were bought out by NY Tel, but
> still retained their corporate identity, and had to sell conduit
> ("underground pipe", thus the term "subway") space to all bona-fide
> communications providers.  Officially, they "sold" space to NY Tel,
> Western Union and the cable companies, but the huge majority was for
> NY Tel.

> The contract was a sweet deal.  ECS was allowed to make "up to 10%
> profit" with the rest going to the City of New York.  There were many
> years when the "profit" was 9.98% :)

Nick - that's a great Sub of a Sub!  Clearly one only a very few have
ever heard of! (Certainly not me!)

One of the bigest of the "sub of a sub" would of course be Teletype
Corporation.  Also under the Western Electric banner is Sandia Labs
that helped end WWII by helping the Manhatten Project.  Who can point
out more of them?

And don't you just love the old "lightning bolt" type used in the WE
logo years ago.  Wish that were a True-Type choice!

------------------------------

From: Diamond Dave <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The 22 Bell Operating Telcos as of 1984
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:42:35 -0500
Organization: The BBS Corner / Diamond Mine On-Line


On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 03:45:29 GMT, Nick Landsberg
<hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net> wrote:

> Let's not forget the "subsidiaries of subsidiaries" which also were
> around.  I don't know of how many there might have been but I first
> joined the "Bell System" with .... [drumroll]

> Empire City Subway Co. Ltd.

Empire City Subway still exists to this day.

Website: http://www.empirecitysubway.com/

> From the main page of their website:

"Empire City Subway Company (ECS) is a wholly owned subsidiary of
Verizon that specializes in subsurface engineering and construction
services. Since 1891, ECS has held a franchise from the City of New
York to build and maintain a conduit and manhole infrastructure in
Manhattan and the Bronx. ECS rents this space to telecommunications
and cable television service providers. "

Dave

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Nevada Bell
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:40:27 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.96.12@telecom-digest.org:

> Wesrock@aol.com wrote:

                        (Snip)

> And Nevada is not a heavily populated state. Drive from my house in
> Apple Valley to Las Vegas up Interstate 15 and you drive through a
> whole lot of nothing up to the state line, and even then there's
> nothing but a few casinos until you hit the Vegas area. (It's a three
> hour drive.)

> Other parts of Nevada border the Death Valley area of California --
> also not a very heavily populated area :)

And let's not forget that Northern Nevada along the Oregon border can
be pretty short of humanoids as well.  Also, my rich uncle's Air Force
put me up in Wendover, Utah for a while.  Aside from a casino in
"West" Wendover, NV the only action was watching UP freights roll
through the area!

Al

> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) /
> sjsobol@JustThe.net
> PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Nevada Bell
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:45:41 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Wesrock@aol.com wrote: 

> The largest city in Nevada, Las Vegas, was not and is not served by
> Bell.

> Wes Leatherock
> wesrock@aol.com

What about until the end of WW II?

------------------------------

From: dold@TheXRealXT.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: The Real TiVo
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:13:57 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> One of Amazon's most popular technology books last month was Hacking
> TiVo. The book's enormous popularity intrigues me because of what it
> says about TiVo digital video recorders: 1) Geeks love the TiVo; and
> 2) Many of these same gadget-happy TiVo owners are not satisfied with
> TiVo in its off-the-shelf incarnation.

As a Tivo owner, I have not hacked.  I think some folks hack because
they can.  I don't feel a pressing need.  Some hack to add more
storage space, but I don't use the unit for archiving a movie I might
watch next year.  I only have things on there that have appeared in
the last few weeks that I intend to watch in the next few weeks.

There are four sets of hacks.  

1- Adding more disk space (weaknees).  I have no need.

2- Simple remote-control-programmed changes to the interface.  I use
some of these.

3- Poking around in Linux, for some feature additions, but mostly just
to poke around.  I don't use this, although it is somewhat attractive.

4- Serious feature additions, morphing of standalone with DirecTivo, and
copying of video files to DVD.  Uncharted territory for my tastes.

If the ethernet interface was already enabled on my DirecTivo, I would
use it, but I don't intend on popping the paint on the warranty-sealed
screws unless there is some real benefit.


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:47:43 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


[re charging $3.00 or so per minute for overseas calls made without a
calling plan]

> Absolutely predatory on the part of Verizon.  The web site should
> have stated both rates, and in large, clear print stated that the
> "theft" rate automatically applied unless you called the company and
> signed up.

This is but one more example of the drawbacks of privatizing the phone
system.  If companies can still make money charging $0.15/minute to
Europe, what in the world makes anyone think it's better for consumers
to have companies charging 20 times that?

-Joel

------------------------------

From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Re: Southern/South Central Bell Border, was Re: Nevada; Oddities
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:40:22 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


> - Rossville, Tennga, and McCaysville, GA (adjacent to Chattanooga,
>   Benton, and Copperhill, TN respectively)
> - Liberty (Cherokee County), NC (adjacent to Copperhill, TN)
> - Georgetown, GA (adjacent to Eufaula, AL)

> All these areas are served by central offices in TN/AL except for part
> of the Rossville rate center which is served by a CO in Georgia (which
> also serves customers in Tennessee and has a CLLI starting with
> "CHTGTN" = Chattanooga TN even though it's physically in Georgia.)

I worked for AT&T in Tucker, GA.  One day my phone rang and the caller
immediately went into a monologue about a patient (I got an earful
about medical history, vitals, etc.)  I interrupted her and told her I
was an AT&T employee, not a doctor.  She then demanded I connect her
to such-and-such hospital.  I was just a back office, co-op student
who wrote dBase III databases, not an operator.

At the time all of north Georgia was 404.  Peope in GA but near
Chattanooga could dial just 7-digits (or 1+7-digits) to reach that
city.  Apparently she was outside of that zone, so I got the call in
Tucker.


John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

------------------------------

From: Sammy@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:48:53 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


> And if they want to sell Hawaiian Tel, why aren't they selling ...

Hawaiian Tel is a tough operation.  Each island is one big local
calling area.  It will never change.  The money used to be in
inter-island toll until competition set in.

------------------------------

Date: 1 Mar 2004 01:20:05 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


>> John, what does your local media (radio/TV/newspapers) say

http://www.syracuse.com/business/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/business-4/1078047320315550.xml

I found an article in today's Syracuse Post-Standard.  They reiterate
the reasons VZ would want to sell the upstate NY territory, lower
profits than downstate, hostile regulators who are about to fine them
yet again for lousy service, etc.  But they can't figure out who'd
want to buy it, either.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:47:39 EST
Subject: Re: "Upstate NY" (Re: Verizon Plans to Sell ...)


In a message dated Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:00:06 CST Mark J Cuccia
<mcuccia@tulane.edu> writes:

> What would be interesting is if Qwest-LEC or SBC (or even BellSouth)
> would take it over! If BellSouth were to take it over, what *NAME*
> would BellSouth Corporation use for marketing and as the local
> operating company, as this area is *NOT* "south"! :-)

    Southwest Airlines seems to be operating profitably in Providence,
Albany and Baltimore without changings its name, not to mention
Northwest Airlines operations in the South and Southeast and indeed in
many parts of the world.

Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, but ... the objective of Southwest
Airlines is for the carriage of passengers and freight to somewhere
in the southwest, is it not?  Or does Southwest Airlines have much or
any 'local' traffic around New England and New York City?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: "Upstate NY" (Re: Verizon Plans to Sell...)
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:22:54 -0600


Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu> wrote:
 
> You'd mentioned in the earlier post that Alltel does have a few small
> towns in NY. I wonder if they might consider taking over all of that
> chunk of upstate NY (NYTel/NYNEX/BA/VZ)?

Would make more sense. CenturyTel primarily has lines in Lorain
County, Ohio, west of Cleveland. Going east on I-90 towards upstate
New York, you go through large chunks of northeast Ohio that are all
Western Reverse Telephone (which was bought out by Alltel). Lake
County's suburbs of Cleveland are SBC, but just about everything else
in Lake is Alltel; with the exception of Burton, everything in Geauga
County is Alltel; and Ashtabula County, sitting on the state line, is
all Alltel as far as I know.

Don't know how much of the Erie PA metro is Alltel. I'd assume that Erie
itself is Verizon, but don't know for sure.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:31:54 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: The Thread DID Continue From the Digest (was Re: Verizon Plans)


Pat Townson added the following to the beginning of a (sub) thread of
posts/emails between John Levine and Me (Mark J. Cuccia), those emails
were cc'd to the Digest intended for publication, and Pat did publish
them all ... thanks ...

(this appeared in volume 23 issue 96, Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:24:00 EST)

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The next several messages in this issue
> of the Digest did *not* begin here but were part of a series of
> messages between John Levine and Mark J. Cuccia which were copied to
> the Digest, by one or the other of them.  PAT]

(The first in the series started off as follows, with John quoting me)

  Date: 29 Feb 2004 04:17:32 -0000
  From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
  Subject: Verizon Says That Hawaii and Upstate NY Are For Sale

  > I read a report from the WSJ about a week ago that VeriZon is
  > seriously considering selling off (GTE) Hawaiian Telco and also SOME
  > of its NYTel/NYNEX/BA franchise area in upstate NY!

(and John's reply continued, snipped for this presentation).

Actually, Pat, this "spin-off" thread *DID* originate from the Digest,
and simply  continued as individual posts from John or me, to you/Digest,
it only happened that we CC'd each other.

The actual series appeared for the first time in this new issue (96),
but it did "originate from" Telecom Digest.

The initial text that John quoted from me, transcribed above, is from
TELECOM Digest, Volume 23, issue 95, Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:23:00 EST, in
article subject "Nevada; Other BOC Oddities", about half-way down in that
article, and it is as follows:

> VeriZon (Bell Atlantic/NYNEX) has actually *introduced* the 1970s-era
> "Bell" logo in previous *GTE/CONTEL* areas, such as on trucks,
> buildings, payphone signage, etc! BTW, I read a report from the WSJ
> about a week ago that VeriZon is seriously considering selling off
> (GTE) Hawaiian Telco and also SOME of its NYTel/NYNEX/BA franchise
> area in upstate NY!

Note the second sentence in there is *EXACTLY* what John Levine quoted
from me to start off his reply in this spin-off "thread" about VeriZon
planning to sell-off (GTE) Hawaiian Telco, and also some of the original
NYTel/NYNEX/BA franchise area of upstate New York...

Just want to set the record straight!

Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well ex-cuuuuse me!  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Last Giggle/Snicker! Re: Picture, Michael Powell in a Bra
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:15:32 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Well, John, probably none of us wants to know WHY you're looking for
this picture but go to the 1-25-04 issue of Willamette Week and click
on "Volume" (or click on this:
http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=4858)

Enjoy!

Al

John Bartley or K7AAY@ARRL.NET" <johnbartley3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.94.3@telecom-digest.org:

> Yes, Michael Powell in a bra.

> Some telecom or computer magazine I've read within the past week had a
> B&W pic of the Chair of the FCC in a bra.  I'd heard he wore it at
> some stag event, and wasn't surprised when I saw it; just trashed the
> magazine, and forgot about it.

> Now, I've read the Notice of Rulemaking for BPL (internet service over
> power lines), and need that picture, because there's nothing like
> sophomoric humor on the part of Powell to illustrate the cavalier way
> the FCC is approaching the issue.

> What issue?

> Go set your tune your hi-fi to AM, pick a spot between local stations,
> and turn up the vpolume about half way.  Then, try to have a phone
> conversation over a bad cellular connection with your ear six inches
> from the speakers, and you will still have an easier time
> communicating than hams will when we experience the 16 db over S9
> interference already demonstrated by BPL.

> That interference explains why Austria and Japan already tried, then
> abandoned, BPL.  However, this is 'the best government which lobbyist
> money can buy', so we get the FCC telling us in the Notice they expect
> power companies to fix the problems, the same power companies who
> already take *months* to resolve RFI (radio frequency interference)
> problems with existing tech.

> The burden of proof of the problem will be on the *ham*.  How easy is
> it to talk to your power company?  Hams know it gets much harder when
> interference problems arise.

> Hams have to buy all of our own gear to equip ourselves to be able to
> communicate in emergencies, and we're a part of just about every
> emergency plan there is.

> How many hams will learn the special skills needed for shortwave and
> longwave and make the investment of $$$$ to buy the gear, if all we
> get is static from BPL?  You have to practice just like it's for real
> to be competent in something so demanding as passing radio traffic,
> and longwave and shortwave require very different skills than the VHF
> and UHF short-range frequencies which are unaffected by BPL.

> Folks, I need this pic to help me prove my point.  Anyone remember what
> magazine that picture was in?

> Thanks, 73s and best regards,

> John E. Bartley, III  K7AAY telcom admin, PDX - Views mine.
> celdata cjb net - Handheld Cellular Data FAQ
> *This post quad-ROT13 encrypted. Reading it violates the DMCA.*

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    AOL Reverses Course on Broadband (Lisa Minter)
    Qwest Communications Introduces Nationwide Wireless Calling (M Solomon)
    InterActiveCorp Buys ZeroDegrees (Monty Solomon)
    CRYPTOCard's CRYPTO-Server X: First Authentication Solution (M Solomon)
    Verizon/NYNEX/NYTel Upstate NY (Mark J Cuccia)
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:07:54 EST
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: AOL Reverses Course on Broadband


This appeared in the Independence, KS Sunday Reporter Business News,
February 29, 2004:

America Online, Inc. has quietly stopped offering a complete broadband
package, requiring subscribers to instead obtain their high-speed
Internet connections directly from a cable company or a DSL provider,
such as Cable One, or TerraWorld here locally, or SBC which also
offers DSL service.

The reversal in strategy stands as another black mark against the 
purported wisdom of the $160-billion merger between Amerrica Online and
Time Warner the former owner of the cable franchise here in Independence
until last year. The merger between the two, widely touted as a'perfect
marriage' of old and new style media 'with the means to deliver it'
occurred at the height of the internet boom during the 1990's. 

The decision to stop selling bundled service -- an AOL branded cable or
DSL connection combined with AOL's walled garden of content -- follows
a strategic realignment that began in December, 2002, according to AOL
spokeswoman Anne Bentley said Friday. The change, which took effect late
in January does not affect customers who bought the package before then.
Those customers will continue to be 'grandfathered' unless/until they
either change the terms of their service, for example with Cable One or
TerraWorld, or move to a different address requiring a service change.

Although AOL would not provide a detailed breakdown, we found that
relatively few of the company's 3 million broadband customers had the
$54.95 per month package, preferring locally instead to use Terra
World's DSL service combined with AOL's 'bring your own access' for
$14.95 per month or Cable One (Independence)/Cox Cable (Coffeyville)
services to access the same 'BYOA' service, as AOL called it. Both
TerraWorld and Cable One/Cox Cable offer much less expensive service,
as does HIT.net (Horizon Internet Technologies), another local provider
in southeast Kansas. The DSL service offered through SBC is different,
since that company requires its DSL subscribers to also use its phone
service, so a comparison on prices could not be made as easily.

In addition to the broadband customers, AOL has about 21 million dial-up
subscribers in the United States.

Dave Burstein, editor of the online DSL Prime newsletter termed AOL's
termination of the bundled service an admission of defeat for AOL.


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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:46:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Qwest Communications Introduces Nationwide Wireless Calling


     Qwest Communications Introduces Nationwide Wireless Calling
     - Mar 1, 2004 06:01 AM (PR Newswire)

New Plans Offer Customers Greater Flexibility and Choice with
Wireless Calling Across the United States

DENVER, March 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Qwest Communications
International Inc. (NYSE:Q) today introduced its nationwide wireless
voice service for residential and small business customers.  For the
first time, Qwest wireless customers can choose competitive national
or state service plans.

Qwest's nationwide calling plans start as low as $24.99 for 200
minutes when customers combine wireless with any other Qwest service
on a single bill.  More information about these new plans is available
at www.qwest.com.  In addition, the company today will begin promoting
the plans in television and print advertising featuring Qwest
employees and customers, including hockey great Wayne Gretzky.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40719658

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:49:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: InterActiveCorp Buys ZeroDegrees


InterActiveCorp Buys ZeroDegrees

By REUTERS

NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - InterActiveCorp . (IACI.O), media
mogul Barry Diller's conglomerate of enterprises ranging from online
dating to home loans, has agreed to acquire business networking site
ZeroDegrees, the company said on Monday.

ZeroDegrees of Hollywood is one of more than a dozen start-ups that 
have been launched over the past year in the hope of cashing in on 
the trend popularized by dating site Friendster, which has drawn 
millions to seek connections via online social networks.

Friendster is the leading example of personal/dating sites, along 
with Tribe Networks and CraigsList. Last month, Google Inc. 
introduced Orkut, its own personal referral service.

In contrast, ZeroDegrees focuses on business contacts. Potential 
rivals include LinkedIn, Contact Networks, Socialtext, Spoke 
Software, Ryze, Visible Path and Eliyon.

These sites are versions of the concept of ``Six Degrees of 
Separation,'' the title of a Broadway play and a movie that has 
become a phrase embedded in the popular culture and refers to the web 
of connections that tie together seemingly remote people via friends 
of friends and so on.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-tech-diller-zerodegrees.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:52:58 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CRYPTOCard's CRYPTO-Server X: The First Authentication Solution


     CRYPTOCard's CRYPTO-Server X: The First Authentication Solution
     to Provide SSH Connection for Mac OS X 'Panther'

OTTAWA, Ontario--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 1, 2004--

CRYPTOCard's CRYPTO-Server X Follows Up Macworld 2004 "Best of Show"
Award By Wowing Renowned Apple Security Expert

CRYPTOCard's (www.cryptocard.com) "Best of Show" award winner at
Macworld 2004, CRYPTO-Server X, the first authentication solution for
the Mac, has received high praise from the former leader of Apple's IT
Security Department, and one of the foremost experts in Macintosh
forensic analysis, Derrick Donnelly, CTO, BlackBag Technologies, for
making it simple to positively authenticate remote Mac users
attempting to access a system via a Secure Socket Shell (SSH)
connection. SSH, an internet protocol that increases remote security
by encrypting passwords and authenticating both ends of the
client/server connection using a digital certificate, effectively
eliminates eavesdropping, connection hijacking, and other
network-level attacks.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40721583

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 07:13:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: More, Verizon/NYNEX/NYTel Upstate NY


***IN TELECOM DIGEST***, John Levine earlier posted:

> Mark J. Cuccia asked:

>> John, what does your local media (radio/TV/newspapers) say?

> http://www.syracuse.com/business/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/business-4/1078047320315550.xml

> I found an article in today's Syracuse Post-Standard.  They reiterate
> the reasons VZ would want to sell the upstate NY territory, lower
> profits than downstate, hostile regulators who are about to fine them
> yet again for lousy service, etc.  But they can't figure out who'd want
> to buy it, either.

The article also mentions Citizens/Frontier/Rochester (I guess Global
Crossing has entirely vacated the LEC side of Frontier and Rochester?
Whatever became of 101-0444 Frontier LD which I think Global Crossing
also acquired?)

But from that Syracuse Post-Standard article are the following two
quotes:

"Verizon officials have let it be known they are thinking about
breaking up their New York telephone business and selling off the
least profitable part, which is everything north and west of
Westchester County."

and

"The Upstate network Verizon might sell comprises about 2.5 million
customer lines, from Buffalo to the northern border of Westchester
County."

WOW! This is even *MORE* than I thought they would have planned to have
sold off!

(Note that Rochester NY is its own LATA and not part of any
NYTel/NYNEX/ BA/VZ LATA; It has been an independent LEC/telco for
decades; Also, the entire Citizens/Frontier Rochester NY Telco area
split off to NPA 585 in Fall 2001. But some of NYT/NYNEX/BA/VZ in NPA
716 also split off to the new NPA 585 as well at the same time)

It appears that all of the following LATAs of NYT/NYNEX/BA/VZ in
*upstate New York* (some of these LATAs also spill over slightly into
PA and MA, but I think those out-of-state ratecenters associated with
NY state LATAs are served by "independent" telcos) ... would be sold
off, according to what was mentioned in the Syracuse Post-Standard
newspaper article:

LATA 140 "Buffalo",
all of NPA 716 and parts of a large amount of NPA 585.

LATA 138 "Binghampton"
MOST all of NPA 607 (to the south)

LATA 136 "Syracuse"
all of NPA 315, a small part of NPA 607 (to its north)

LATA 134 "Albany"
all of NPA 518

LATA 133 "Poughkeepsie"

the northern part of NPA 845 (which split from NPA 914 in 2000) (and
maybe some residual "wireless" 914-NXX codes that didn't seem to go
mandatory as 845-NXX in 2000, yet these are associated with
ratecenters within the Poughkeepsie LATA);

and the "non-Westchester County" areas of LATA 132 "New York City
Metro" which would include all of the remaining parts of NPA
845. However, there are some ratecenters which are in this NYC Metro
LATA 132, which "straddle" the county line of Westchester with an
adjacent county to the north or west.

There seem to be more 845-NXX c.o.codes in LATA 133 "Poukeepsie" rather
than in LATA 132 "NY City Metro".

Also, the "non-Westchester County" areas of LATA 132 "New York City
Metro", which VeriZon would want to sell-off, seem to include all of
Putnam County and Rockland County, and the southern part of Orange
County. The northern part of Orange County would most likely be in the
"Poughkeepsie" LATA (133). And all of this "non-Westchester County"
area of LATA 132 (NYC) and all of LATA 133 (Poughkeepsie) is what
split off to NPA 845 (previously NPA 914) in 2000, NPA 914 being
retained by NYC-132-LATA-associated Westchester County which VeriZon
wants to retain.

I suppose that those two extreme-southwest-CT towns of Byram and
Greenwich (still part of NPA 203) which have always been
NYT/NYNEX/BA/VZ and are also associated with the NYC LATA #132, will
be retained by VeriZon, unless there might be forthcoming plans to
sell those off as well, possibly to SBC-SNET? BTW, the ratecenter of
Woodbury CT within SBC-SNET's LATA 920, was the only "independent"
telco within the state of CT (if you consider SNET to have been "Bell"
all along, even though AT&T only owned a minority share in the old
pre-1984 "Bell System" days), however, around 1999 or 2000, SBC-SNET
actually purchased the Woodbury Telephone Company!


Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA

------------------------------

From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: "Upstate NY" (Re: Verizon Plans to Sell ...)
Organization: ATCC
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 06:52:44 GMT


In article <telecom23.97.13@telecom-digest.org>, Wesrock@aol.com
says:

> In a message dated Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:00:06 CST Mark J Cuccia
> <mcuccia@tulane.edu> writes:

>> What would be interesting is if Qwest-LEC or SBC (or even BellSouth)
>> would take it over! If BellSouth were to take it over, what *NAME*
>> would BellSouth Corporation use for marketing and as the local
>> operating company, as this area is *NOT* "south"! :-)

>     Southwest Airlines seems to be operating profitably in Providence,
> Albany and Baltimore without changings its name, not to mention
> Northwest Airlines operations in the South and Southeast and indeed in
> many parts of the world.

Yes but if they don't extend the runway at PVD we can pretty much kiss 
our airport goodbye. PVD will become a backwater, great. 

> Wes Leatherock
> wesrock@aol.com

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, but ... the objective of Southwest
> Airlines is for the carriage of passengers and freight to somewhere
> in the southwest, is it not?  Or does Southwest Airlines have much or
> any 'local' traffic around New England and New York City?  PAT]

Soutwest flies to Tier 2 cities -- like Providence, Islip, etc. On the 
other end they fly to destination cities like Orlando etc. 

Works well for me. Inter-region there is Bonanza and Greyhound, or 
Acela/Acela Regional. 

For travel between RI and MA there's always the MBTA commuter
rail. And of course if they ever get their crap together the MBTA will
service the PVD airport. Makes expansion of that airport an absolute
necessity now.

------------------------------

From: Ken@Privacy-Call.com (Ken Chase)
Subject: Re: Technology Triumphs Do Not Call List; Block ALL Unwanted Calls
Date: 1 Mar 2004 06:51:06 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Ken@Privacy-Call.com (Ken Chase) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.97.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> In response to numerous questions about the 'Do Not Call' List and
> blocking unwanted calls, we are posting information about the latest
> release, the http://privacycall.com/pages/caller-id-screener-intro.htm

> TECHNOLOGY TRIUMPHS OVER FTC'S "DO NOT CALL" LIST
> New Caller ID Screener Allows Only 'Invited' Callers to Ring - Free of
> Fees

> (SCOTTSDALE, AZ) Telemarketing companies and exempted groups may have
> found loopholes in the new National Do Not Call List, but
> telecom automation groundbreaker Bill Sasso of Digitone Communications
> thwarts them again with his latest invention, the
> http://privacycall.com/pages/id-screener-3.htm Privacy Call ID
> Screener

> A small, tabletop device designed for customers who subscribe to
> Caller ID, the Privacy Call ID Screener allows only 'Invited' callers
> to ring their phone. All other callers are handled as the consumer
> chooses.

> Although the device is customizable, its use is simple. Callers on the
> consumer's 'Invited' list ring through without interference, while
> anonymous or unfamiliar callers are asked to identify themselves or
> leave a message, without ringing the phone. Callers on the consumer's
> 'Excluded' list cannot ring the phone or leave a message, including
> cell phone, out-of-state, and international callers.

> "We call it 'Caller ID with attitude!'" says Sasso. "Now consumers can
> choose who can ring their phone, and when, without the limits and
> extra monthly charges from your telephone service provider. Using the
> unit's Caller ID screen, it only takes a push of a button to add
> callers to your 'Included' or 'Excluded' list. And, using the
> 'Wildcard' feature, the consumer can 'Invite' or 'Exclude' entire area
> codes, prefixes or number sets. With the ID Screener, exemptions like
> those to the National 'Do Not Call' List simply do not exist."

> A snap to install, the Privacy Call ID Screener prevents telemarketing
> calls, predictive dialers, misdialed numbers, hang-up calls, false
> faxes, pollsters, political organizations, exes, creditors and anyone
> else the consumer doesn't want to talk to ... ever again.

> Additional benefits include a call-forwarding feature that, on a
> single line, seamlessly connects 'Invited' callers to a cell phone or
> alternate location, as well as a 'Do Not Disturb' mode. This feature
> prevents all callers from ringing the phone during set hours, such as
> bedtime and study time, either on a one-time or daily basis.

> "The ID Screener is particularly useful for people who keep unusual
> hours, such as those working the graveyard or swing shifts," says
> Sasso. "During 'Do Not Disturb' hours, 'Invited' callers can leave a
> message, but the phone will not ring, ensuring total privacy." A
> secret emergency code is provided in case of emergencies.

> The Privacy Call ID Screener is the latest addition to the Privacy
> Call series, designed to help residential consumers and business
> owners better manage their telephone communications and reduce monthly
> telephone charges. Consisting of six different models, Privacy Call
> Series products are available at the Privacy Call website 
> <a href="http://www.Privacy-Call.com">www.Privacy-Call.com</a> or by
> calling (888) 833-5333.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This sounds a great deal to me like the
> old Privcode machine, which was popular back in the 1970's. It was
> attached to the phone line, and was sensitive enough to go off hook at
> the slightest hint of a change in voltage, so the phones seldom if 
> ever actually rang. Instead, this machine -- the Privcode -- would
> announce its intentions and demand that the caller enter or speak his
> Privcode ID number (actually, it was referred to as the 'extension'
> number desired by the caller. The proper three digit 'extension'
> allowed the phones to ring. Otherwise, the caller got transferred to
> an answering machine. Really a great device, and manufactured in those
> days by IMM (International Mobile Machines) of Bala Cynwyd, PA. It
> is no longer available I don't think. Perhaps this new machine which
> Ken Chase describes is a good replacement.   PAT]

Thanks for your comment. Indeed, there have been a number of attempts
to create devices that can eliminate unwanted calls.  Over the years,
what the public has most often requested from us is a device that
allows only 'Invited' callers unimpeded access while blocking or
pre-screening all others.

A number of devices introduced in the last couple of years have
attempted to stop telemarketers, but have been only mildly successful
at actually controlling the increasing number of annoyances that ring
the phone and interupt privacy.  These calls include misdialed
numbers, false faxes, predictive dialers calling to harvest working
voice and fax numbers, prank and harassment calls, etc.  And of
course, those exempt from the rules of the FTC's National Do Not Call
List, and there are many, have continued to call.

The Privacy Call series addresses all of these problems with simple
solutions, whether the consumer subscribes to Caller ID or not. With
our latest introduction, the Privacy Call ID Screener, consumers can
either screen all calls and invite some, or use the built-in
'Wildcard' feature to invite everyone with Caller ID information and
exclude the numbers they choose.  Either way, the phone doesn't ring
until it's a welcome caller.

------------------------------

Reply-To: BobGoudreau@newsgroup
From: BobGoudreau <BobGoudreau@newsgroup>
Subject: Re: Verizon Land Line International Rates
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:16:36 -0500


[Please continue to despammify my email address. Thanks.]

Dr. Joel M. Hoffman wrote:

> [re charging $3.00 or so per minute for overseas calls made without a
> calling plan]

> This is but one more example of the drawbacks of privatizing the phone
> system.  If companies can still make money charging $0.15/minute to
> Europe, what in the world makes anyone think it's better for consumers
> to have companies charging 20 times that?

Several decades of empirical economic data, that's what.  Turns out
that the costs of having Gosplan centrally micromanage the operation
of a particular consumer market end up far exceeding the benefits to
the country at large.  I have a limited amount of sympathy for the
original poster, given that he incurred costs due to his own
carelessness.  But my sympathy does not extend to the notion that I
should have to pay extra to fund some government agency that will
protect him from his carelessness.

To draw an analogy, consider bottled water.  You can walk into any
supermarket and buy a generic or store-brand bottle of drinking water
for a few tens of cents.  You can also pay far more for a bottle of
Perrier or Evian or some other premium brand.  And there are no doubt
various "super-premium" brands of bottled water available in rich
shopping zones like Rodeo Drive that cost far more still.  But all of
these are essentially the same product.  If companies can make money
selling water for a few dimes a bottle, what in the world makes anyone
think it's better for consumers to have companies charging 20 times
that?

Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

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    Verizon Wireless and Verizon Airfone Offer 10 Cents-a-Minute (M Solomon)
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:59:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Motorola BSR 64000 CMTS/Router Platform To Be Deployed


     Motorola BSR 64000 CMTS/Router Platform To Be Deployed by Time
     Warner Cable For Advanced Data Services
     - Mar 1, 2004 10:24 AM (PR Newswire)

Reliability, Ease of Operation, Performance, and Density Cited as Key
Factors In the Selection for the Deployment of DOCSIS(R) 1.1-Based
Services

HORSHAM, Pa., March 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Motorola,
Inc. (NYSE:MOT) today announced that Time Warner Cable, North
America's second largest cable operator, has approved the Motorola
Broadband Services Router (BSR) 64000 for deployment of DOCSIS(R)
1.1-based IP services throughout its cable systems in the United
States. The operator will begin deploying the Motorola BSR 64000 with
a fully redundant configuration in its key San Diego market, which
will mark the first deployment of the Motorola BSR 64000 in a Time
Warner Cable system.

Time Warner Cable selected Motorola after extensive lab and field
testing proved that the Motorola BSR 64000 CMTS/router would support -
and further increase - the operator's penetration of advanced
high-speed data services.  The Motorola BSR 64000 carrier-class
features - specifically its reliability, ease of operation,
performance, density and high availability - in particular helped
distinguish the platform.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40722084

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:07:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Fourth Quarter FY '04 Conference Call and Webcast


     TiVo Inc. Invites You to Join Its Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2004
     Conference Call and Webcast

SAN JOSE, Calif., March 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc.
(Nasdaq: TIVO) announces its Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2004 Financial
Results conference call and webcast is scheduled for Thursday, March
4, 2004, at 2:00 PM Pacific Time. Details below.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40725828

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:04:13 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Wireless and Verizon Airfone Offer 10 Cents-a-Minute


     In-Flight Calls And Discounted JetConnect Services

'Excuse me, I believe the call on the seatback phone is for you.'

Airfone(R) Service for Verizon Wireless Plan Lets Customers Make and
Receive In-Flight Calls and Charge Them to Their Verizon Wireless
Bills

BEDMINSTER, N.J., March 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless, the
nation's largest wireless service provider and operator of the most
reliable wireless network, today announced it is teaming up with
Verizon Airfone to offer discounted in-flight calls for Verizon
Wireless customers.  Beginning today, Verizon Wireless frequent flyers
can stay connected while in flight for just 10 cents-a-minute when
they sign up for the new Airfone Service for Verizon Wireless $10
monthly subscription plan.

Verizon Wireless customers who want to make and receive calls while in
flight need only register as a user on a Verizon Airfone handset to
make and receive calls for 10 cents-a-minute with a monthly
subscription or 69 cents-a- minute with no subscription.  Callers
dialing the customer's Verizon Wireless phone number will reach them
on board any of the more than 2,000 planes served by Verizon Airfone
nationwide.  Charges will be billed directly to the customer's Verizon
Wireless bill.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40725518

------------------------------

From: Bit Twister <BitTwister@localhost.localdomain>
Subject: Sharing Passwords
Organization: home user
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:36:59 GMT


Is password-lending a cybercrime?
By Mark Rasch, SecurityFocus


http://theregister.co.uk/content/55/35942.html

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You may wish to read the article
referenced above, then reach a decision of your own. My personal
feeling is this: If you willfully provide a password belonging to
your self to some other person, then YOU should be responsible for
whatever damage is caused as a result. If your password was used
*without* your knowledge or permission then AFTER you have signed
off on an affidavit denying any knowledge or permission given for
its use, you are not responsible.  That's my opinion.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:16:51 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Verizon/BA/NYNEX/NYTel Upstate NY


Earlier, I wrote, regarding how *MUCH* VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYT would like to
sell-off:

(snip)

> WOW! This is even *MORE* than I thought they would have planned to
> have sold off!

> (Note that Rochester NY is its own LATA and not part of any
> NYTel/NYNEX/ BA/VZ LATA; It has been an independent LEC/telco for
> decades; Also, the entire Citizens/Frontier Rochester NY Telco area
> split off to NPA 585 in Fall 2001. But some of NYT/NYNEX/BA/VZ in NPA
> 716 also split off to the new NPA 585 as well at the same time)

> It appears that all of the following LATAs of NYT/NYNEX/BA/VZ in
> *upstate New York* (some of these LATAs also spill over slightly into
> PA and MA, but I think those out-of-state ratecenters associated with
> NY state LATAs are served by "independent" telcos) ... would be sold
> off, according to what was mentioned in the Syracuse Post-Standard
> newspaper article:

> LATA 140 "Buffalo":
> all of NPA 716 and parts of a large amount of NPA 585.

> LATA 138 "Binghampton":
> MOST all of NPA 607 (to the south)

> LATA 136 "Syracuse":
> all of NPA 315, a small part of NPA 607 (to its north)

> LATA 134 "Albany":
> all of NPA 518

> LATA 133 "Poughkeepsie":
> the northern part of NPA 845 (which split from NPA 914 in 2000) (and
> maybe some residual "wireless" 914-NXX codes that didn't seem to go
> mandatory as 845-NXX in 2000, yet these are associated with
> ratecenters within the Poughkeepsie LATA);

> and the "non-Westchester County" areas of LATA 132 "New York City
> Metro" which would include all of the remaining parts of NPA 845.
> However,  there are some ratecenters which are in this NYC Metro
> LATA 132, which "straddle" the county line of Westchester with an
> adjacent county to the north or west. Also, the "non-Westchester
> County" areas of LATA 132 "New York City Metro", which VeriZon would
> want to sell-off, seem to include all of Putnam County and Rockland
> County, and the southern part of Orange County. The northern part of
> Orange County would most likely be in the "Poughkeepsie" LATA (133).
> And all of this "non-Westchester County" area of LATA 132 (NYC) and
> all of LATA 133 (Poughkeepsie) is what split off to NPA 845 (previously
> NPA 914) in 2000, NPA 914 being retained by NYC-132-LATA-associated
> Westchester County which VeriZon wants to retain.

> I suppose that those two extreme-southwest-CT towns of Byram and
> Greenwich (still part of NPA 203) which have always been
> NYT/NYNEX/BA/VZ and are also associated with the NYC LATA #132, will
> be retained by VeriZon, unless there might be forthcoming plans to
> sell those off as well, possibly to SBC-SNET? BTW, the ratecenter of
> Woodbury CT within SBC-SNET's LATA 920, was the only "independent"
> telco within the state of CT (if you consider SNET to have been "Bell"
> all along, even though AT&T only owned a minority share in the old
> pre-1984 "Bell System" days), however, around 1999 or 2000, SBC-SNET
> actually purchased the Woodbury Telephone Company!

I forgot to mention the other areas of the New York City Metro LATA
#132 which I would assume that VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYTel would retain ...

*OBVIOUSLY* the five boroughs of New York City itself:

Manhattan (New York County), NPAs 212 overlaid with 646, and ...
Bronx (Bronx County), Queens (Queens County), Brooklyn (Kings County),
and Staten Island (Richmond County), these latter four being NPAs 718
overlaid with 347; ALL FIVE boroughs of New York City also having been
overlaid with NPA 917 as of 1-January-1992.

And Westchester County as mentioned (which retained NPA 914 when NPA
845 split off in 2000, the new 845 NPA being for the other counties or
portions there-of in the NYCity Metro LATA #132, as well as for the
Poughkeepsie LATA #133 northern part of NPA 914 splitting to NPA 845;
it seems that all of NPA 845 would be the southernmost part of what
VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYT would like to sell-off, both the 845 NPA part of the
NYCity Metro LATA as well as the Poughkeepsie LATA part of NPA 845).

I mentioned those two VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYT towns in southwestern CT, which
had been NYTel for *DECADES*, Byram and Greenwich, in NPA 203 (still),
both being in the New York City Metro LATA #132, rather than being
SBC-SNET in their CT LATA #920. It "appears" that VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYT
would retain these areas, UNLESS they were to transfer them to SBC-
SNET. Both of these have been associated with NYTel and home on White
Plains for decades as well.  They might need a "re-home" to the
SBC-SNET New Haven CT tandem and to be re-associated with the SBC-SNET
Connecticut LATA #920 if ever the ownership of these ratecenters would
be transferred by VZ to SBC.

And then there is Long Island ... Queens and Brooklyn/Kings are on
L.I., but they are indicated above as actually being in New York City
itself.  But there is also Nassau County (NPA 516, retaining this area
code when NPA 631 split off in 1999/2000), and also Suffolk County
(NPA 631, split off from NPA 516 in 1999/2000). These two Long Island
counties would most likely be retained by VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYTel. Also, not
counting recent CLECs/ wireless, these two counties always seem to
have been 100% "Bell", except for the unique community/ratecenter/LATA
of Fishers' Island, NY.

Fishers' Island, NY is an island associated with NY State and Suffolk
County, and had been NPA 516, changing to NPA 631 with the split of
1999/2000. But they are their own indepedent "Fishers' Island Telco",
and they have *always* "homed" on SNET/CT, *NOT* on Garden City
L.I. NY in Suffolk County. At the time of divestiture, they were
initially planned to be associated with the SNET/CT LATA #920, but for
various (foolish) NY State political reasons, were made into their own
unique LATA, all to themselves. There is a ferry boat connecting the
island with New London CT and all telephone traffic seems to have to
route through CT, either via AT&T or SBC-SNET. Even 411 and 911 and
'0' calls from Fishers' Island do not route 'directly' to
VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYTel on Long Island, but rather route "via" AT&T's (or
SBC-SNET's) facilities in Connecticut!

But I would assume that Long Island (all of 516/Nassau County and
virtually all of 631/Suffolk County) would be retained by
VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYT in addition to NYCity itself, and Westchester County
(NPA 914).

And, *IF* this intended sale of "upstate NY" would go through, which I
doubt (I think NY state regulatory is *NOT* going to allow this), then
what is retained of the old NYTel (Westchester County southward and
eastward), would be *DISCONTIGUOUS* from the old New England Tel (RI,
MA, VT, NH, ME). The old NYNEX was made up of NYTel (NY) and New
England Tel, with NY state being adjacent to MA and VT. But that part
of NY state would now be sold off by VZ/BA/NYNEX/NYTel!


Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Technology Triumphs Do Not Call List - Block ALL Unwanted Calls
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:21:23 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On 29 Feb 2004 18:19:56 -0800, Ken@Privacy-Call.com (Ken Chase) wrote:

> Callers on the consumer's 'Excluded' list cannot ring the phone or
> leave a message, including cell phone, out-of-state, and interna-
> tional callers.

And how would one use this device if they have people calling them
from international locations where the CLIP is not even present?  I
guess that means no one from outside the NANP can ever call you!


           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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Subject: RI & Providence Plantations; St. Pierre/Miquelon and Newfoundland 
Date: Mon,  1 Mar 2004 16:25:51 EST
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Lisa Hancock writes [spelling corrected]:

> While we're on the subject of strange geography, there's a little
> island off Newfoundland, St. Pierre IIRC, that is completely part of
> France with no connection to Canada.

Two islands, St. Pierre and Miquelon, plus some tiny ones nearby.
They are designated a "Territorial Collectivity" of France, which in
practice means they're something like Puerto Rico in relation to the
US.  Total population of the islands is about 7,000.

They are not part of the North American Numbering Plan, but instead
have their own country code, +508 (the leading 5 means a non-NANP
number in the Americas; France itself is +33).

One interesting quirk is that they use a time zone closer to that of
France than their geographical position warrants: zone -3 (-2 during
daylight saving), or two hours east of Eastern Time, one hour east of
Atlantic Time, half an hour east of Newfoundland Time.  Because of the
curves and wiggles in the coast of the island of Newfoundland, this
means that if you go directly *east* from St. Pierre or Miquelon, the
next land you reach will be part of Newfoundland, meaning that you
have to set your watch *back* half an hour!

> As to "Rhode Island and Providence Plantations", could someone explain
> that name?

Simple.  Rhode Island is an offshore island, also called Aquidneck
Island.  Its largest city is Newport.  Providence Plantations is a
section of mainland centered around Providence, and forms most of the
state's area.  Presumably the island was the important part when the
name began being used and so was named first, but the full name was so
it was already being shortened in speech before Providence became more
important. 


Mark Brader "How can we believe that?"  Toronto
"Because this time it's true!"  msb@vex.net -- Lynn & Jay: YES, PRIME
MINISTER

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Memories: Enterprise -vs- Zenith Numbers
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:13:58 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On 29 Feb 2004 17:55:14 -0800, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
wrote:

> As to "Rhode Island and Providence Plantations", could someone
> explain that name?

Rhode Island's first permanent settlement (Providence Plantations) was
established at Providence in 1636 by English clergyman Roger Williams
and a small band of followers who had left the repressive atmosphere
of the Massachusetts Bay Colony to seek freedom of worship.  Canonicus
and Miantonomi granted Williams a sizable tract of land for his new
village.  

http://www.state.ri.us/rihist/earlyh.htm

           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: Quest to Offer "Naked DSL"
Date: 1 Mar 2004 15:47:17 -0800
Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com]


I called Qwest today to ask the details about the service. Apparently,
this is a "stealth" deployment -- the website has press releases but
no particulars published about the pricing of the service. ;-(

You can see the press release at 

http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1454_current,00.html

The rep thought that pricing/service details would be published in a
week or two. OTOH, the rep I asked a week ago told me that the
information would be available on 2/28 when the service was rolled
out.

All services are for "up to 1.5Mbps [download]" DSL service. Qwest
does offer a lower-cost 256K/256K service to their telephone
customers, but will apparently only offer a single speed of "naked
DSL" service. 

The service rep read off some confusing pricing numbers; I repeatedly
asked for clarification. She put the call on hold twice to consult
with her associates to clarify the numers. I am still confused by what
the rep said, because a "Qwest-only" ISP doesn't seem to be available
with any of Qwest's services before they had "naked DSL". Note: the
rates do not include a DSL modem:

$33.00  DSL only no ISP (customer would arrange for 3rd party ISP)

$39.99  DSL with Qwest as ISP, no e-mail or web hosting

$44.99	DSL with MSN as the ISP if you sign up for Qwest's national
        wireless plan

$49.99	DSL with MSN as the ISP

$57.99  DSL with Qwest as the ISP

One new thing was mentioned in the press release: standalone DSL is
part of Qwest's plan to offer broadband VoIP by the end of the year. I
know little about the Vonage service, but I see no reason why one
couldn't use that service with any of Qwest's DSL offerings --
including "naked DSL" -- today.


--phil

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Anti-Spam Solutions and Security (Monty Solomon)
    Alleged WebTV 911 Hacker Charged With Cyberterrorism (Monty Solomon)
    Maxtor Champions 6 Stream DVRs (Monty Solomon)
    Lawsuit Over Fake Sony Critic Survives Challenge (Monty Solomon)
    Is Password-Lending a Cybercrime? (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Sharing Passwords (Bit Twister)
    Re: Nevada Bell (Michael Chance)
    Re: Missouri Bell (Michael Chance)
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:47:23 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Anti-Spam Solutions and Security


by Dr. Neal Krawetz
SecurityFocus

1. Overview

In a recent survey, 93% of respondents reported dissatisfaction with
the large volume of unsolicited email (spam) they receive. [ref 1] The
problem has grown to the point where nearly 50% of the world's email
is spam [ref 2], yet only a few hundred groups are responsible.  [ref
3] Many anti-spam solutions have been proposed and a few have been
implemented. Unfortunately, these solutions do not prevent spam as
much as they interfere with every-day email communications.

The problems posed by spam have grown from simple annoyances to
significant security issues. The deluge of spam costs up to an
estimated $20 billion each year in lost productivity -- according to
the same document, spam within a company can cost between $600 and
$1,000 per year for every user.[ref 4]


http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1763

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:53:01 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Alleged WebTV 911 Hacker Charged With Cyberterrorism


By Kevin Poulsen
SecurityFocus

FBI agents arrested a Louisiana man last week under the cyberterrorism
provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act for allegedly tricking a handful of
MSN TV users into running a malicious e-mail attachment that
reprogrammed their set-top boxes to dial 9-1-1 emergency response.

According to prosecutors, David Jeansonne, 43, was targeting 18 
specific MSN TV users in an online squabble when he crafted the 
script in July 2002, and sent it out disguised as a tool to change 
the colors on MSN TV's user interface. Though the code didn't 
mass-mail itself to others, some of the recipients were sufficiently 
fooled that they forwarded it to friends, for a total of 21 victims.

Known as WebTV before it was acquired by Microsoft, MSN TV works with
television set-top boxes to allow users to surf the Web and send and
receive e-mail without using a PC.

The boxes connect to the Internet through a local dial-up number. The
malicious script changed the dial-up to 9-1-1. If a victim didn't go
online again after being infected, the box would summon help anyway
when it tried to make an automatic daily call to the network at
midnight.

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/8136

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That is absolutely DUMB! I have to 
wonder why David Jeansonne that would hurt anyone but eventually
himself.  Dumb, dumb, dumb!  PAT]

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:00:36 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Maxtor Champions 6 Stream DVRs


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/35932.html


By Faultline

Maxtor and Scientific Atlanta last week attracted column inches on 
their plans for the next generation of DVRs, due for release in about 
18 months. But what exactly are they talking about when they boast of 
6 stream technology?

To date, pegging the price of DVRs and VCRs meant that they could 
feature a limited number of tuners. A tuner sorts through the signals 
on a TV network - digital or analogue - and selects the wavelength 
carrying the required programme. The tuner then unscrambles it and 
readies it for viewing pleasure. In the past, including two tuners 
was thought to be an extravagance, and any more than that completely 
unnecessary.

The rationale behind this was that the single-TV consumer would be 
unlikely to want to record more than two programs at a time, while 
either watching one of them or watching a third recorded program.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/35932.html

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:33:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Lawsuit Over Fake Sony Critic Survives Challenge


     - Mar 1, 2004 09:48 PM (Reuters)

By Gina Keating

LOS ANGELES, March 1 (Reuters) - The fictitious movie critic David
Manning may still end up in court over all the nice things he had to
say about "Hollow Man" and "The Animal."

A California appeals court on Thursday ruled that a proposed class
action filed by filmgoers against Sony Pictures Entertainment could go
to trial over the studio's admission that it had created a fake critic
to plug its movies.

But in a scathing dissent, Justice Reuben Ortega called the lawsuit "a
farce" and "the most frivolous case with which I have ever had to
deal."

Sony's lawyers had asked a Los Angeles trial judge to throw out the
lawsuit, which accuses Sony of false advertising and deceptive
business practices for creating Manning and then using his laudatory
blurbs in ads that ran in U.S. newspapers in 2000 and 2001.

But the Los Angeles trial judge rejected Sony's argument that the ads
were protected by the state's free speech guarantees. The Second
District Court of Appeal upheld the trial judge, saying the case could
proceed to trial.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40729094

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:39:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Is Password-Lending a Cybercrime?


A judge's wrongheaded interpretation of the federal Computer Fraud 
and Abuse Act illustrates the problems of allowing civil enforcement 
of a criminal law.

By Mark Rasch
SecurityFocus

In a little-observed civil lawsuit involving tracking of magazine
subscriptions, a federal court in Manhattan issued a ruling last week
that could theoretically result in prosecutors going after people who
use another person's password and userid with their permission, but
without the permission of the issuer.

The case, decided last Monday, arose out of a dispute between two 
competing companies, Inquiry Management Systems (IMS), and Berkshire 
Information Systems, both of whom tracked magazine advertisements for 
their clients. Employees of Berkshire obtained a userid and password 
from a client of IMS, and used them to access IMS's website and 
tracking service. This act violated the customer's agreement with IMS.

 From there, the Berkshire employees either read, or downloaded (or 
both) certain copyrighted information about the tracking of magazine 
advertisements, which of course, they used to compete with IMS.

Is this an unfair and deceptive trade practice? Sure! Inducing a 
breach of contract between IMS and its customer? Absolutely! Fraud? 
Sure, why not.

But IMS sued Berkshire for computer crime, and a violation of the DMCA.

http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/222

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From: Bit Twister <BitTwister@localhost.localdomain>
Subject: Re: Sharing Passwords
Organization: home user
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 03:48:07 GMT


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:36:59 GMT, Bit Twister wrote:

> Is password-lending a cybercrime?
> By Mark Rasch, SecurityFocus

> http://theregister.co.uk/content/55/35942.html

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You may wish to read the article
> referenced above, then reach a decision of your own. My personal
> feeling is this: If you willfully provide a password belonging to
> yourself to some other person, then YOU should be responsible for
> whatever damage is caused as a result. If your password was used
> *without* your knowledge or permission then AFTER you have signed
> off on an affidavit denying any knowledge or permission given for
> its use, you are not responsible.  That's my opinion.  PAT]

I was thinking about a nytimes.com  telecomdigest1 account.   :(

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, think about it if you wish. There
are some substantial differences in the cases. In the original report
presented in this issue by Monty Solomon, a fellow had been given a
secret password as a condition of his employment. I presume his pass-
word enabled him to make some changes on the computer. In my case,
I don't honestly know who first created the telecomdigest account on
the New York Times, only that it was later reported to me here that
the 'group password' for Digest readers was not working correctly,
so I made changes as needed to make it work. It was never known as
anything other than a 'group password', there was never any secret
about it, nor was it a condition of employment, etc. In addition, it
was not a password with sufficient ability to make any changes in
the records of NYT or do anything other than read news. If NYT wants
to sue me as a result, or refer to me as a 'cyberterrorist' they are
welcome to do so, but I can't really see it happening.   PAT]

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From: Michael Chance <mchance@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Nevada Bell
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:53:43 GMT


In article <telecom23.95.4@telecom-digest.org>, Wesrock@aol.com says:

> The largest city in Nevada, Las Vegas, was not and is not served by 
> Bell.

Actually, it is.  SBC Telecom (the SBC subsidiary that acts as a CLEC
in non-SBC ILEC territory) provides local service to Las Vegas.  It's
not widely advertised, but if you ask, they'll provide service.

Michael Chance

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From: Michael Chance <mchance@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Missouri Bell
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 05:02:24 GMT


In article <telecom23.96.13@telecom-digest.org>, Wesrock@aol.com says...

>       As I recall, M & K did not include the eastern part of Missouri
> (St.Louis area), but I don't remember the name of the company that
> operated there.

Here's the history:

St. Louis Telephonic Exchange, April 1878-1879 became The Bell
Telephone Company of Missouri,1879-1913 [primarily St. Louis area]
renamed The Southwestern Telegraph and Telephone Company (of
Missouri), 1913-1917 and sister company The Missouri and Kansas
Telephone Company,1882-1917 [chiefly Kansas and Western Missouri]
merged to form Southwestern Bell Telephone Company (of
Missouri),1917-1920 [Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas].

The headquarters building that Missouri Bell built in the 1890s is
still standing at the corner of 10th and Olive in downtown St. Louis,
and is currently being renovated into loft condos named,
appropriately, The Bell Lofts.

The Southwestern Bell headquarters building that was built in the
early 1920s at 1010 Pine in downtown St. Louis (a fine example of art
deco architecture) is still owned by SBC, and is used for a variety of
corporate offices, and still houses the Chestnut central office,
serving the downtown area.


Michael Chance

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: RI & Providence Plantations; St. Pierre/Miquelon, Newfoundland 
Organization: ATCC
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:03:41 GMT


In article <telecom23.99.7@telecom-digest.org>, msb@vex.net says:

> Simple.  Rhode Island is an offshore island, also called Aquidneck
> Island.  Its largest city is Newport.  Providence Plantations is a
> section of mainland centered around Providence, and forms most of the
> state's area.  Presumably the island was the important part when the
> name began being used and so was named first, but the full name was so
> it was already being shortened in speech before Providence became more
> important. 

In essence that's part of the story. Roger Williams landed in what is 
now Providence. Newport only became prominent because of it's strategic 
location at the mouth of Narragansett Bay. In fact, sandwiched between 
Canal Street and North Main Street in Providence is the Roger Williams 
National Memorial -- built on what was once the site of his home in 
Providence. 

But you're correct about the plantations part -- the urban core of
Providence was ringed with farmlands up until the 40's. Now it's one
huge strip mall.

More interesting is that while Newport pretty much bulldozed most of
it's historic properties, Providence managed to preserve quite a bit
on the east side of the city. That has to do with the efforts of this
group: http://www.ppsri.org/

As of this year the settlement of that State of Rhode Island and 
Providence Plantations is 368 years in the past. 

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:28:32 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: More Re the GTE Side of Verizon


Steven Sobol wrote (in the thread of upstate-NY, Alltel, Centurytel, etc):

> Don't know how much of the Erie PA metro is Alltel. I'd assume that Erie
> itself is Verizon, but don't know for sure.

Erie PA is indeed Verizon, but not from Bell Atlantic. Erie PA (and
surrounding territory) is old GT&E and is actually a "LATA" unto
itself!

In the old BA states, at the time of the merger between GTE/Contel and
BA/NYNEX to form VeriZon, only PA and VA were states with old GTE
(some inlcuding old Contel). In addition to the Erie PA and
surrounding area being GTE and actually a *LATA* of its own, there are
other GTE areas in PA (and VA) which are simply within (legacy) Bell
Atlantic LATAs.  Erie PA and vicinity is the only GTE area that is
also a GTE LATA, that exists in PA (or VA).

West Virginia (a legacy BA state) used to have some GTE (which was
also associated with GTE bordering in Virginia), but when GTE bought
out Contel in the early 1990s, they sold off the West Virginia
operations to Citizens' Telephone/Utilities.

None of the old NYNEX states had any remaining GTE. There seems to
have been some GT&E up there in the later 1950s, 1960s and even 1970s,
but it was all sold off, probably well before GTE took over Contel in
the early 1990s.

Large amounts of old GTE and old Contel was sold to Citizens' and
Alltel in the early 1990s when GTE took over Contel, probably to
comply with FTC/DOJ "antitrust".


mjc

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 23:06:35 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: I Found Something You May Like


I have something here you may enjoy.  I call it the perpetual porn
maker machine. Actually, what it does is goes about the entire net,
like a hungry worm, looking for all the porn it can find. It never
goes hungry! Its for any flavor of Windows

It simply starts out with some well-known sites, traverses them 
one by one crawling around, and exploring every link it finds therein,
and because it has been taught what 'porn looks like' it brings back 
all it can find, like several thousand jpg files every hour more or
less.

It takes a while, maybe a couple minutes to get started, but once the
results start coming in, they pour in heavily. More porn than anyone
can ever deal with. In an experiment, I turned it on one night before
going to bed, and had *eighteen thousand* porn images (.jpg) on my
computer the next morning. It neatly puts all the results in a file of
whatever size, subject to the limits of your hard drive in c:/my thumb
gallery. It helps to have a huge hard drive!

Be careful, don't let the worm run unsupervised or uncontrolled for
very long at a time. And there is no front door or cashier's window to
go past. Why should guys have to pay for porn?  It just goes in deep and
takes it all out and brings it to you. No advertising, no pop ups, no
spy-cookies installed on your computer, etc.  If you click on the
picture of the camera, then you get to see the work that is going on
in the background. My suggestion would be if you like that sort of
thing is to run it in the background, let little pictures pop up on
your screen and periodically clean out the c://my thumbgal gallery
file. You can run it all the time, but the storage file gets to be so
big and unwieldy, and frankly, boring.  You can rename the directory
and restart the program; the worm just recreates a new directory with
the same name and starts filling it with porn again, by the truckful.

I did NOT invent this worm, but the company which did is now long
since out of business. One of the options available once it is loaded
and running is to 'register' the program; that would give you access
to movies, etc but that function does not work; I think the company
which invented the porn-worm was too trusting in thinking all the
dirty old men around here would be willing to pay for at least that
much. I've renamed my version of it 'Porn Worm'.  

Let me know how you like it.  http://porn-worm.us.tf   

PAT

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