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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:23:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 1

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Tim Berners-Lee Gets His Knighthood for the WWW (Danny Burstein)
    Satellite Radio Goes for a Spin (Monty Solomon)
    Car-Monitoring Service Allows You to be Big Brother (Monty Solomon)
    California Plan Would Halt Trucks Remotely in Attack (Monty Solomon)
    GILC Alert v7i9 (Monty Solomon)
    Step, Panel, XB, and Tone Plants (was Re: 10 Digit) (jsw@ivgate.omahug)
    Voip PC to PC Talking Try Skype (Gordon Laubach)
    Re: 10-Digit Dialing (Wesrock@aol.com)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Linc Madison)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Arthur Kamlet)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Mark Brader)
    Re: Is That Possible? (Greg T. Knopf)
    Re: Taxes on Phone Bills - Ouch (John R. Levine)
    Barbers (was Re: 10-Digit) (Dave Close)
    Re: Linksys boxen (Carl Navarro)
    Re: Taxes on Phone Bills - Ouch (Joe@nospamcity.com)
    Re: Telecoms Embrace Internet Calling, But Is It Trouble? (Joe@nospam)
    Re: Migrating to ADSL -- Questions For the Tech Gurus (Earle Robinson)
    Correction, was Re: Migrating to ADSL -- Questions (Danny Burstein)
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From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Tim Berners-Lee Gets His Knighthood for the WWW
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 02:24:32 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


http://www.w3.org/ -- 31 December 2003 -- Tim Berners-Lee, the
inventor of the World Wide Web and director of the World Wide Web
Consortium (W3C), will be made a Knight Commander, Order of the
British Empire (KBE) by Queen Elizabeth. This was announced earlier
today by Buckingham Palace as part of the 2004 New Year's Honours
list.

The rank of Knight Commander is the second most senior rank of the
Order of the British Empire, one of the Orders of Chivalry
awarded. Berners-Lee, 48, a British citizen who lives in the United
States, is being knighted in recognition of his "services to the
global development of the Internet" through the invention of the World
Wide Web.

[ snippety snip ]

http://www.w3.org/2003/12/timbl_knighted

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 03:03:33 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Satellite Radio Goes for a Spin


By Lewis Wallace

In a TV commercial for XM Satellite Radio, country legend Willie
Nelson calls the service "the best radio there is."

That's strong praise for an industry still in its infancy. So, are
Nelson's words strictly an ad man's hyperbole, or is satellite radio
something no self-respecting technophile can live without?

The answer, of course, lies somewhere in between.

For a stone digital-music geek who has an iPod jammed with thousands
of MP3s and no real interest in straying from custom play lists,
satellite radio is probably unnecessary. The same goes for talk-radio
junkies with well-established affinities for local shows or National
Public Radio.

However, if you're a music lover with wide-ranging tastes, a driver
who spends a lot of time on the road, or a resident of a rural area
with no satisfactory radio options, satellite radio could be a digital
dream come true.

We tested products from the industry's dueling companies -- XM
Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio -- locally and on long
jaunts.

http://www.wired.com/news/gizmos/0,1452,61668,00.html

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 03:04:56 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Car-Monitoring Service Allows You to Be Your Own Big Brother


Don't trust your teenagers or your spouse? Networkcar can tell you 
where they've been driving.

By Ralph Vartabedian
Times Staff Writer
December 31, 2003

The way George Orwell imagined Big Brother was as a police state that 
imposed unrelenting surveillance on an unwilling public.

Orwell never imagined that people would actually make nice with Big
Brother as a matter of convenience, but that's one way to view the
growing stream of data from automobiles that has attracted a lot of
interest from the government and, so far, not a lot of suspicion from
the public.

Some consumers actually are willing to pay for a service that lets 
the government know your car isn't breaking the law.

For about a year, a La Jolla company has offered to provide remote
sensing of a car's systems and to post that data to a private Web
page, along with verifying to state agencies that the car is in
compliance with the emission laws of California and a few other
states.

http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-wheels31dec31,1,1009805.story

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:13:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: California Plan Would Halt Trucks Remotely in Attack


By Daniel Sorid

SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 1 (Reuters) - Three years after a truck driver
slammed an 18-wheeler into California's state capitol building,
lawmakers are considering a plan to link trucks carrying hazardous
material to a satellite tracking system that would halt them if they
were used in a terror attack.

The trucks would be equipped with devices that would either cut off
fuel to the engine or turn on the brakes when activated. The proposed
bill would implement the country's most stringent safety regulations
for trucks carrying fuel and other hazardous materials, but it faces
fierce opposition from local trucking companies who complain that the
rules would make California truckers uncompetitive.

Assemblyman John Dutra, unhappy with the slow federal pace in
addressing the issue, introduced the bill in February 2003, and it
passed easily in the state assembly. Amid protest from industry
groups, the bill failed to get past the transportation committee in
the state senate, where it will be reconsidered this year.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40109808

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:26:01 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: GILC Alert v7i9


GILC Alert
Volume 7, Issue 9
19 December 2003

Welcome to the Global Internet Liberty Campaign Newsletter.

Welcome to GILC Alert, the newsletter of the Global Internet Liberty
Campaign. We are an international organization of groups working for
cyber-liberties, who are determined to preserve civil liberties and
human rights on the Internet.

We hope you find this newsletter interesting, and we very much hope
that you will avail yourselves of the action items in future issues.
If you are a part of an organization that would be interested in
joining GILC, please contact us at <gilc@gilc.org>.  If you are aware
of threats to cyber-liberties that we may not know about, please
contact the GILC members in your country, or contact GILC as a whole.
Please feel free to redistribute this newsletter to appropriate
forums.

===============================================
Free expression
[1] Hollywood suffers defeat in Net file sharing case
[2] Controversial world info summit held
[3] Christian Chinese online activist arrested 
[4] Zimbabwean gov't arrests 14 online dissenters
[5] Protests mount against Iran Net censorship
[6] Tunisian Net dissident finally freed
[7] DVD programmer awaits appeals court ruling
[8] Diebold backs down on Internet copyright threats
[9] Report on Vietnam Net speech curbs released

Privacy
[10] Bush Backs International Cybercrime Plan
[11] Planned VeriPay human implants pose privacy problems
[12] Microsoft security flaws affect automated bank tellers
[13] US gov't gets still more spy powers
[14] Study: many British websites poor on privacy
[15] Yahoo and Excite fix webmail security hole
[16] Controversy grows over South Korean mobile phone security
[17] New privacy-friendly Cryptophone unveiled

http://www.gilc.org/alert/alert79.html

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:37:17 CST
From: jsw@ivgate.omahug.org
Subject: Step, Panel and XP
Reply-To: jsw@ivgate.omahug.org


> It should be noted that in the waning days of SxS, the Bell System
> added electronic front and back ends to the switches to improve
> performance.  I'm not sure if they went as far as converting an SxS
> exchange into "common control" run by the front end electronics, but
> there was some up front processing.

The Manawa office in Council Bluffs, IA (Omaha, NE area, 712-366) used
what was called 'Directorized SxS'.  This was an outboard conversion
used on some Ma Bell (and maybe others) step offices to approach
common control.  This conversion was most likely done in the 1960's,
and provided dial tone to the subscriber, and recorded the dialed
number, either in dial pulses or touch-tone tones.  For interoffice
calls it then drove the switch train, and for intra-office it provided
the signaling (MF, dial-pulse, possibly even revertive - I dunno) that
the called office expected.  This installation lasted until the mid
1980's when the Manawa office was cut to a DMS-10.

> Panel Type and 1XB had no provision for dealing with SxS pulsing.  When
> 1XB came around, presumably the easterners assumed that any place which
> would need them would be panel.

Panel used the 'revertive' signaling method, possibly invented by Rube
Goldberg <bfg> which, to make it very simple, the called office
advanced the contact and the calling office told the called office
when to stop.  This was emulated in the #1 crossbar, as it was
intended to be compatible with the panel system.  (I also vaguely
remember that the 1ESS was able to speak revertive as well.)

When placing a call from a panel office, the revertive pulse sounds
could often be heard as a distinctive 'scratch-scratch' sound during
dialing.

I'm familiar with the way both the Omaha and NYC phone systems were
back in the electromechanical days, and both used panel and 1XB
extensively with lots of revertive pulsing between the various
offices.  (Ma Bell's first full-scale panel office was in the Atlantic
office in Omaha. Years ago I provided information about this to the
Digest here.)  Both areas used 5XB for newer installations until the
early 1970's.

There were pockets of SxS around both Omaha and NYC, often appearing
as DID implementations, but occasionally for POTS, as in the Manawa
office I mentioned above.  (I remember specifically that Columbia U in
Manhattan and Union Pacific in Omaha used such a scheme.)  Many of the
CDO's in the hinterlands surrounding Omaha (but in the dialing area)
used direct-control step well into the 70's.  IIRC, the panel and 1XB
offices (and some others) reached the direct-control step offices by
way of a tandem office that provided the expected pulse signaling to
drive the switch train.

> It was only when 5XB came out that there was an alternative to step in
> large step cities.

I do remember that some 1XB offices were retrofitted to receive (and
presumably transmit) MF for interoffice signaling. (The O Street
office in Omaha was an example.)  I assume that if they could speak
MF, that there were provisions for dial pulse signaling as well.

> Interestingly I have found historical references to a Panel system
> being installed and utilized in the Providence, RI CO on Washington &
> Greene.

I was always fascinated with the dialing arrangements in some parts of
Rhode Island I visited during my younger days.  IIRC, the Coventry
area was direct-control SxS (early 70's) and had a few varied access
codes to dial nearby areas.  (Dusting off very rusty memory cells ...)
I also vaguely remember that the Scituate area had at least one office
with the 'directorized' step, and offered 7-digit 'sane' dialing into
the Providence area.

> I think there was also some SxS gear because my grandparents phones had
> the standard SxS dialtone and when called had the SxS ring and busy
> signals, though those may have been Panel signaling I'm not familiar
> with.

It seems like many of Ma Bell's step offices used a similar type of
tone plant, one with the 'flatulent' ringback, and that most of their
panel offices (as well as most 1XB and many 5XB) used the very
familiar 'metropolitan' tone plant, but I know of many exceptions,
making it not trivial to determine the CO type just by the
dial/ring/busy tones.

I do remember, for example, that some of Ma Bell's step offices had a
ring tone that appeared to come from the same type of tone plant used
in the newer 5XB offices, one that to the untrained ear sounded very
much like today's standard ring tone.

There were variations on this theme.  The Manawa office I cited above
had a ring tone that I had/have never heard elsewhere.  It could best
be described as a muted blast of an air horn, with a similarly raucous
busy tone.

I also remember one panel office that served the Boro Park/Sunset Park
area of Brooklyn that had a very mechanical-sounding 'flatulent' ring
tone and equally funky busy tone.  IIRC, the dial tone from this
office was similarly unusual.

And then there was this strange ring tone best described as a 'low
rumble' that occasionally appeared on some of Ma Bell's 5XB offices. I
never figured that one out.  It was barely audible on some LD calls.
It almost sounded like only the spurious harmonics of the ring signal.

------------------------------

From: gordonl@rocketmail.com (Gordon Laubach)
Subject: Voip PC to PC Talking Try Skype
Date:  1 Jan 2004 14:23:25 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


For FREE great VOIP  Pc to Pc talking try Skype..
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  ( sorry to say)
  cuts thru the firewalls...
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Skype is the next phenomenon from the people who brought you KaZaA.
Just like KaZaA, Skype uses P2P (peer-to-peer) technology to connect
you to other users not to share files this time, but to talk and
chat with your friends.

The technology is extremely advanced but super simple to use...
You'll be making free phone calls to your friends in no time!

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Works with all firewall, NAT and routers  nothing to configure! 
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Your calls are encrypted "end-to-end" for superior privacy 
Based on cutting edge peer-to-peer technology developed by the
creators of Kazaa and Joltid.

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 19:39:59 EST
Subject: Re: 10-Digit Dialing


In a message dated 30 Dec 2003 19:19:54 -0800, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
(Lisa Hancock) writes:

> I don't know of the Bell System priorities in the old days.  But a
> reading of the "Engineering & Science" histories of the Bell System
> indicates that small areas did receive attention.  "Community dial
> offices" were developed.  The plans for nationwide direct distance
> dialing took into account the many varied dial plans of small offices.

       As I mentioned, the first dial office in Oklahoma City, in
1920, used A.E. SxS because there was no W.E. SxS equipment.  By 1927,
there was #1 SxS from W.E., and it was installed in the downtown
office in Oklahoma City.

       CDOs, much smaller places, usually without local operators
after dial equipment was installed, were usually W.E. 350 SxS and 355
SxS.  But most of these came after World War II.

       It was in the 1920s, perhaps earlier in a few places, that SxS
was installed in a quie a few places it is now hard to consider a
"small office";: indeed, many of them were multi-office cities by the
time the first dial equipment was installed.  These "small places"
include such places as Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio,
Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Wichita and many others.

> I dare say that the big cities received more attention because the
> more complex calling patterns required it and the cities generated
> more revenues.  I suspect businesses in big cities tended to spend
> more in long distance and premises equipment (key sets, PBXs, etc.)
> than in a small town which justified the greater interest.

       I'm not sure how the usage of long distance and premises
equipment particularly affected the type of central office equipment
to be installed.  Those were all the smae for all types of offices,
Panel, step, #1XB.

> Step by Step was cheaper to install and run since it was simpler.
> Crossbar and panel required technicians with a higher level of
> training.

> As to inter-office connections, remember that when Panel and #1
> crossbar were developed (1920s and 1930s, virtually all long distance
> was handled manually by operators, indeed even establishing a
> connection took some time and effort.  Gradually, operators could dial
> calls in distant cities and routing was simplified.

        The vast majority of interoffice trunking in cities with more
than one office was local trunking between offices.  Los Angeles was
probably almost unique in having substantial operator dialing to
interzone (or "multiple message unit") and toll offices before World
War II.

        Indeed, in the last 1940s my experience on outgoing long
distance calls from Los Angeles was that you dialed the code "110" for
the long distance operator, who then had to determine from Rate and
Route not only the routing (including intermediate distant tandem
points), but also what manual toll tandem in L.A. to access because
the volume of toll trunks was so great that they had to be allocated
between different manual toll tandem boards in the L.A.  area.

        I still remember my first call where the operator dialed
directly to a distant point when I was living in Dallas.  It was to
Corpus Christi, and when I passed the number to the toll operator in
Dallas the next thing I heard was the number ringing in Corpus.
Before that time, the originating toll operator would pick a trunk to
Corpus, where the inward operator would answer "Corpus Christi," and
the originating operator would pass the number for Corpus inward to
dial.

> Panel DID contain capacity for manual/automatic dial interface.
> I'm also curious how the last manual systems (1960s) worked in terms
> of handling modern higher call volumes.  For example, in suburban
> Philadelphia (Upper Darby) there was the FLanders exchanges, which
> didn't convert until around 1962.  It was an old suburban community,
> with a big transit terminal and shopping district, and residential
> neighborhoods.  (In the 1980s I asked Bell of Pennsylvania for
> information and they said they had no historical information.)

      Pat has given an answer to this; I believe various systems,
including the ones he mentioned, were used.  No local dial-manual
interfaces existed in Oklahoma after the downtown office in Oklahoma
City was converted to dial in 1928.  It is my belief, based on stories
of old timers, that customers in the "Northwest" office dialed the
local operator at the downtown office and passed their number;
customers in the downtown office (still "Number, please") passed their
call to the operator orally just like any other call, and she dialed
the number in the "Northwest" office.

     One issue, of course, was of interoperability between dial and
manual offices. But a more pressing issue in places that were all SxS
and had grown to where the trunking arrangement, directly controlled
by the pulses the customer dialed, had become complex and was rapidly
becoming more complex, had no way of interfacing with offices designed
for such complex arrangements.  Panel, and later #1XB, the apparently
logical answer, had no provision for interfacing with step offices,
only with each other.  It wasn't until #5XB came along that there was
a solution other than kludges (used in most places), putting senders
in the step offices (the L.A. solution) or just accepting that there
were some local routes that couldn't be economically automated and
requiring customers to dial "operator," who then completed the call
for the customer (a solution that was adopted in Houston).

     An interesting corollary to this is that large and small SxS
offices could interface seamlessly, as long as the complexity of the
trunking did not overwhelm certain routes.  The CDO behind the barber
shop in Britton, Okla., a suburb of Oklahoma City, was originally
toll, then interzone from most of Oklahoma City.  Then it became part
of the local dialing area, with "88-" prefixed to the number, working
out of the 84- office (a large step office) with suitable digit
absorption.  Finally, with the change to 7-digit (then as two letters
and five) it became TRinity 8-, with one more digit to be absorbed.

     Incidentally, the office no longer exists, as you would expect,
the municipality of Britton has been absorbed into Oklahoma City and
no longer is a separate legal entity.  But the location of that CDO is
still the location of the rate point for the "Britton" zone, which
includes at least three separate wire centers, each with ESSs serving
multiple prefixes.  If you make a toll or other detail-billed call to
a number served out of those offices, it will show on your bill as
"Britton, OK", no doubt to the confusion of many callers.  (That, of
course, is not unique anywhere around the country -- there are many
rate points like that around the country that, in many cases, have no
current place name to give you a clue.)

In a message dated 12/30/03 3:31:48 AM Central Standard Time,
editor@telecom-digest.org writes:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Two points of interest to add to the
> note from Wes Leatherock ... '3 or 4 chair barbershops'; there is no
> such animal any longer. The very few barbershops which remain these
> days are almost always single person proprietor places. Only rarely
> will several barbers work as a group. There simply is no longer any
> demand for their services. I go to a salon here in Independence which
> has two beauticians on duty; a mother and daughter, but 'Classy 
> Clippers' as it is known has been around for twenty years at least.
> Several multi-chair shops *used to exist* years ago in Chicago.

Pat,

     This is straying far afield from telecom news, but I can assure I
had my hair cut this morning in a 3-chair barber shop.  And all three
barbers were there (on New Years' Eve!).

     Sometimes I have my hair cut at another 3-chair shop that is on
the other side of the center.

     And again sometimes at a 5-chair barber shop, with all the
barbers usually pretty busy. Between those threet is a 4-chair barber
shop, with the last chair behind a partition and nominally a style
shop, but the barber will do ordinary haircuts if he has no style
customers.

     These are all within three or four miles of my house in Oklahoma
City, and I think I saw another one in the other direction a few days
ago.  I may try it soon.

     A new "salon" not far from the three I mentioned is having its
grand opening special with $2.99 haircuts.  I don't know how much male
trade they have; the few times I've tried a salon type of place I
wasn't entirely satisfied (but of course this is true of some barber
shops, too).

In a message dated Tue, 30 Dec 2003 04:34:28 -0500, COTTP 
<c.o.t.t.p@c.o.x.net> writes:

> Interestingly I have found historical references to a Panel system
> being installed and utilized in the Providence, RI CO on Washington &
> Greene.

> The missing link is between the Panel. I think there was also some SxS
> gear because my grandparents phones had the standard SxS dialtone and
> when called had the SxS ring and busy signals, though those may have
> been Panel signaling I'm not familiar with.

     I have lived and worked in places served by Panel, #1XB, and SxS,
and never noticed a different in the dial tone, ringing and busy
signals.  Those were produced by a ringing machine which is used in
all kinds of offices.

     (Of course, when a deviant ringing machine is used, as the
A.E. ringing machine I mentioned that was in use in the Oklahoma City
Jackson office until around 1960 or a little later.  It sounded
different because the A.E. machine did produce somewhat different
tones, but those were used throughout the office, including the
numerous expansions of the office with W.E. SxS.)


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

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Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:39:19 -0800
From: Linc Madison <lincmad@suespammers.org>
Reply-To: lincmad@suespammers.org
Organization: California resident; nospam; no unsolicited e-mail allowed


In article <telecom22.815.3@telecom-digest.org>, Rob
<rob51166@yahoo.com> wrote:

> OK, I know that this may very well seem a dumb question, but why is
> the NANP numbering system different to other phone systems throughout
> the world?

Why do so many other countries have numbering systems different from
the NANP? (Hint: where was the telephone invented?)

The answer is that the telephone systems in North America and Europe
evolved very differently, under very different economic and social
conditions. Europe does not have the vast swaths of sparsely settled
territory that exist in the United States and Canada. Also, the
telephone systems in Europe developed under government control, mostly
under the direction of the postal authorities, while in the US and
Canada the telephone systems, especially for intercity calling, were
developed by for-profit corporations.

> The vast majority of countries in the world have area codes beginning
> with '0', whereas in NANP countries the area code commences with '1',

No, very few countries in the world have area codes beginning with '0';
Russia is one of a handful. (Moscow = +7 095) For instance, area codes
in the UK do not ever begin with '0'. Likewise, area codes in the NANP
never, ever begin with '1'.

Most countries have '0' as an access prefix, which is customarily
quoted as if it were part of the area code, although it is not. In the
NANP, we quote the area code as the area code. My area code is 415, not
1415. The leading '1' is quoted separately, since it is an access code.

That may sound like a pedantic point, which it may be, but it's also an
important element in the equation.

> and then numbers on the same area code, or even numbers in
> neighbouring codes (i.e. 919, 252 and 304), aren't always regarded as
> local, as they are here in the UK.  For example, my local calling
> area not only covers my own exchange (01685) but also all numbers on
> the neighbouring exchanges of 01443, 01639, 01874 and 01495.

Another pedantic point: 919, 252, and 304 are not neighboring codes. I
suspect you meant 804 (Richmond VA) rather than 304 (WV).

Even before the advent of the newest area codes like 028 for Northern
Ireland, it was never true that all calls within a UK area code were
local. All calls within a *CHARGING GROUP* are local, and in the
majority of cases the charging group coincided with the 01xxx area
code, but there were several exceptions. Then along came 091 (now
0191), which includes multiple charge groups, and finally 028 and 023.

It is also important to remember that, even with the recent explosion
of area codes in the NANP and the recent consolidation of area codes in
the UK, there are still far more than twice as many area codes in the
UK as in the NANP. Area code +1 867 alone is more than sixteen times
the land area of the entire UK, although it has about the same
population as Worthing, West Sussex (just west of Brighton). Worthing
is the 62nd-largest city in the UK. For Welsh examples, Swansea and
Newport each have more people than +1 867, and Cardiff has more than
three times as many people. The full NANP has about eighty times the
UK's land area, with only about five times the population. In short,
you *usually* have local calling within an area code because your area
codes are *vastly* smaller in land area and population. (Of course,
there are exceptions at the extremes: +1 213 has a tiny land area, and
+44 20 has a huge population.)

If the NANP's area codes covered the same average land area as the UK's
area codes, there would be about 40,000 of them. No, thank you. Even if
the NANP's area codes only covered the same average population, there
would still be over 3,000; again, no, thank you.

In North America, at the advent of national numbering, the decision was
made by AT&T to take advantage of certain efficiencies in routing by
adopting a fixed numbering format, known as 3-3-4. The area code is
always three digits, the central office code is always three digits,
and the line number is always four digits. By contrast, most of the
world adopted variable numbering formats. Each has its advantages and
disadvantages, and those comparisons weigh differently today than they
did in the middle of the last century.

> Also, how are calls charged between countries within NANP  --  that
> is, is a call from Canada or the US to Bermuda or Barbados regarded
> as international, even though they're technically (I think!) on the
> same phone system?

Being on the same phone system is a separate issue from being
international. The country code isn't the end of the story as far as
billing rates. For instance, on many carriers, it costs less to call a
Mexican border town than to call the Yucatan. Likewise, each telco sets
its own rates for calls to each country in the world. Although few
telcos did so, it was in theory possible to charge differently for
Switzerland and Liechtenstein, even before Liechtenstein got its own
separate country code. Calls to +41 75 (now +423) could be charged at
one rate, and calls to other points in +41 at a different rate.
Likewise, calls, whether within the NANP or from outside, can be billed
differently to +1 202 or +1 613 or +1 242.

Indeed, one of the questions I find most interesting is why so many
overseas telcos bill much higher rates for +1 808 (Hawaii) and +1 907
(Alaska) than for other points in the United States. Of course, even
within the United States, many telcos bill higher rates for Hawaii and
Alaska than for the "contiguous 48."

Another related point is that, by the standards of most people in the
NANP, the UK has no local calling at all. In most of the NANP, all
local calls are included in the monthly line rental at no additional
charge. In the UK, that's only true in Kingston-upon-Hull, and with
some of the new cable-based telcos. For BT subscribers, it can be less
expensive to call the United States than to call your neighbor!

My local calling area includes all of +1 415, +1 510, +1 650, +1 925,
and +1 408, almost all of +1 707, and about half of +1 831. The total
population in that area is about six million, and I have untimed calls
at no additional charge. That's on a regular landline, although not
with the traditional dominant telco. Many people now have the option
for about $20/month of having unmetered calls within the entire USA,
and for an extra $5 you can add Canada.


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From: kamlet@panix.com (Arthur Kamlet)
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: 31 Dec 2003 18:18:53 -0500
Organization: PANIX -- Public Access Networks Corp.
Reply-To: ArtKamlet@aol.REMOVE.com


In article <telecom22.816.1@telecom-digest.org>,
John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

> It's not one phone system, it's one numbering plan.  Phone switches
> have no trouble looking at the dialed digits and figuring out that a
> call staring with 1212 goes to New York, 1416 to Toronto, and 1758 to
> St Lucia.  The numbers are all the same length, but the numbering plan
> is designed so that switches can route long distance calls based on
> the first few digits.

And then there are overlays [1-800 +7D]

Art Kamlet     ArtKamlet @ AOL.com   Columbus OH    K2PZH

------------------------------

Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Thu,  1 Jan 2004 00:57:12 EST
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Charlie Gibbs:

> That leading 1 is _not_ part of the area code.  It started out as
> a prefix identifying long-distance calls,

("Access code" in North American jargon.)

> but it's nowadays better thought of as the country code - corresponding
> to your 44 - followed by a 3-digit area code.

No, it is not better thought of as the country code.  It's only a
coincidence that the country code is also 1.  Proof of this is that
we have *two* access codes -- we can use access code 0 to request
alternate billing (originally, to request operator assistance, but
these days it's usually done automatically) on the call.


Mark Brader | "The net exists to be used.  It is a powerful tool
msb@vex.net |  and as long as people treat it as a tool and not a toy
Toronto     |  it will prosper."     --Jerry Schwarz on Usenet, 1982

My text in this article is in the public domain.

------------------------------

From: Greg T. Knopf <gtknopf@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Is That Possible?
Date: 30 Dec 2003 16:34:04 EST
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Reply-To: gtknopf@concentric.net


Hello,

dado wrote:

> Hi, 

> Can PBX (private branch exchange) line access the internet  ??

> Here is the situation: 

> The City A (central region) has its own leased line and it's server.
> Other cities B,C,D just connect to the central region (city A)
> through pbx line. (We all in the same country).

> My question now, is that possible that cites (b,c,d) can get the
> internet connection through pbx line ??  If that is possible what are
> the requirements??

Much of this depends on the PBX type you are using, the type of telco
line tying them together, and the protocols supported by them.  With
that caveat:

At all sites you would want to establish a Local Area Network with a
hub or a switch.  Then each site would need a router, with the central
site A having a router capable of multiple serial connections.

If possible, then dedicate some of your bandwidth tying the sites 
together through the PBX setup, let's say a 64kbps channel, for a data 
connection.  At sites B,C, and D this data connection is attached to the 
local router, which in turn sits on the LAN via the local hub or switch.

There are a lot of "ifs" here, so it might be helpful to post your PBX 
info or info about what type of connections tie the remote sites to the 
central site.

Good luck,

- Greg
  gtknopf@concentric.net
  info@knopfnet.com

------------------------------

From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Taxes on Phone Bills - Ouch
Date: 1 Jan 2004 02:01:16 -0500
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Monthly fee:

> Line with local service: $8.95

> Taxes: 911 Tax, Al Gore Tax, Spanish American War Tax, State Utility
> Tax,Sales Tax =$6.00.

> I dropped the second line because of 67% taxes. If not for that, I
> would have kept it.

You forgot the $6 access charge which is really part of the local
service price although telcos would like you to believe that it's
something else.  That makes the effective tax rate somewhat lower.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:53:46 -0800
From: Dave Close <dave@compata.com>
Subject: Barbers (was Re: 10-Digit Dialing)
Date: 31 Dec 2003 23:52:08 -0800
Organization: Compata, Costa Mesa, California


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Palmer House Hotel in Chicago and
> the Conrad Hilton Hotel both had (maybe still) multi-chair shops. The
> lead barber was also the cashier. Of course in addition to a haircut
> many guys went in the shop every day to also get a shave and a facial.
> Palmer House had twelve chairs I think; but it used to be that all 
> guys would get a haircut once a week or every two weeks at least. No
> more.  PAT]

I've been going to a four-chair shop in Fountain Valley California for
most of the last ten years. Fountain Valley is in Orange County, the
epitome of suburbia by some reconning. The owner just retired and sold
the shop last month, but it still has four chairs and stays busy.

However, what has disappeared are real haircuts. I'm told that using a
straight razor is essentially optional on the California license exam
and most barbers skip that. A few places seem to recognize the
problem, but solve it by pretending to shave my neck, not really doing
it. Since I can't see the process, I can only infer their action by
the lack of a smooth result. I feel like such an old-timer!


Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA  "The cost of silicon chips has been
dave@compata.com, +1 714 434 7359    steady at about $1bn per acre for
dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu           40 years." --Gordon Moore

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Linksys boxen
Reply-To: cnavarro@wcnet.org
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 10:00:01 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:16:38 -0600, Gary Breuckman <puma@catbox.com>
wrote:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually I could use a 'pass through'
>> socket back there, to attach a second Linksys box as well. But I am
>> trying to *avoid* the additional hardware expense and keep my system as
>> simple as possible.  PAT]

> If you mean a Linksys hub or switch, yes, but you do not need another
> router.

> Also, if you have four ports AND an uplink connector, be advised that the
> uplink shares the port next to it, you can't use BOTH the port and the
> UPLINK at the same time.

> -- Gary Breuckman

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What I have is a little blue box with
> squat legs that says Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router on the front.
> On the back side are six modular connectors (lines one through four)
> plus a 'pass through' and a connector to the cable 'modem'. I assume
> if I strap another box on either through the 'pass through' or the
> socket next to it, I would not need another connector to the cable
> modem as well. But then I could have the luxury of a second VOIP
> phone, but just imagine the traffic jam going through the cable! PAT]

Actually, you unplug one of your 4 devices from the Linksys Router
box, and add a 4/5/8/12/16 port hub or switch to that port and plug
whatever you unplugged into the hub or switch.

A Linksys 8 port switch is designed to stack on top of the router, but
I'd just go by price.  :-)


Carl Navarro

------------------------------

From: Joe@nospamcity.com
Subject: Re: Taxes on Phone Bills - Ouch
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:34:07 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Second line for basic charge of $8.95?  Wow!

David wrote:

> I recently got ADSL service and looked at what it would take to keep
> my second phone line for fax use.

> Monthly fee:

> Line with local service: $8.95

> Taxes: 911 Tax, Al Gore Tax, Spanish American War Tax, State Utility
> Tax,Sales Tax =$6.00.

> I dropped the second line because of 67% taxes. If not for that, I
> would have kept it.

> David

------------------------------

From: Joe@nospamcity.com
Subject: Re: Telecoms Embrace Internet Calling, But Is It Trouble?
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:40:08 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Marcus Didius Falco wrote:

> It's not entirely bad news for the industry: Net-based calling is
> already lowering traditional phone companies' capital costs, and will
> continue to do so. And a rack of VOIP equipment is about the size of a
> microwave. Just one of those can replace floors' worth of old-school
> telecom switches, which are about the size of an industrial
> refrigerator. It will be decades, however, before the upgrades are
> complete.

Those old-school telecom switches are still needed to complete the
VOIP call to 99.99% of the subscribers.  And, likewise they are need
to originate most calls to VOIP subscribers.

Cell phones are going after the local provider a lot faster than VOIP.
And, the cell phone providers use pretty much the same old-school
telecom switch as do the old-school wireline providers.

Apparently the reporter doesn't get it.

------------------------------

From: Earle Robinson <Anonymous at Request>
Subject: Re: Migrating to ADSL -- Questions For the Tech Gurus
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:42:30 +0100


Please accept the following, but please hide my email address.  Thank
you.

In fact, ADSL and ISDN may co-exist quite nicely and this is what
happens in Germany.  A relatively small amount of the lower bandwidth
is left for ISDN, enough for the 2 b channels and the d channel, and
the upper bandwidth devoted to ADSL.  The reason for this is ISDN has
long been very popular in Germany, so the best way to get ADSL
subscribers is to offer ADSL on top of ADSL. Thus, Mr. Warren is
mistaken in saying this is technically impossible.

 
Earle Robinson
 
------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Correction, was Re: Migrating to ADSL -- Questions For the Tech
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 02:41:08 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In an earlier posting I wrote the following about ISDN (excerpted):

> The standard setup for ISDN in the US uses the exact same type of
> (physical) wire pair that a regular phone line would, but the
> signalling on it -- even though it's using the same frequencies as a
> standard voice line -- is very different.

While most of my post was correct, I've since discovered that I should
have paid more attention to my kindergarten teacher. The common ISDN
circuits in the US actually do use more frequencies on the copper wire
than just the regular voice ones.

My apologies. Now to crawl back under my rock.

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

From: Chris@chris-s.co.uk (www.gorover.com)
Subject: N-Gage
Date: 31 Dec 2003 16:02:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


http://www.n-gage-help.com

Seems to be best for Nokia N-gage at the moment!

Chris

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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    My Upgraded Computer System (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    ReplayTV Announces New Flexible Pricing Model (Monty Solomon)
    ReplayTV Price Drop Bait-and-Switch (Monty Solomon)
    Is TiVo Really All That Great? (Monty Solomon)
    Century-old Math Problem May Have Been Solved (Monty Solomon)
    Rumor: Apple iBox (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Step, Panel and XP (Joe@nospamcity.com)
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    Problem With Distorted Fax Using VoIP (Rob)
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:51:27 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: My Upgraded Computer System


Starting at about 5 PM New Year's Eve and continuing until way past
my usual bedtime, then continuing after I woke up Thursday morning,
I made some expansions to my computer. 

For one, I installed an additional hard drive. I still have my
original hard drive of 20 GB, which is partioned into Windows 2000 (12
GB) and Linux sections (8 GB). In addition I now have a new 80 GB
drive. The original drive is 'C', the new hard drive is 'F'. My
original CD player was 'D' which it still is.

For two, I now have a CD/DVD player/burner which is known as 'E'. It
is Hewlitt Packard DVD300i  by model number. The main reason for the
additional hard 80 GB hard drive was to insure lots of swap space when
burning new CDs, to make the manufacture of same go as quickly as
possible. The little removable 62 MB drive in the USB slot (a tiny
little thing about the size of my finger) is now 'G'. And I still have
the floppy device, which is 'A'. 

I have been giving some thought to moving Windows 2000 onto the new
80 GB drive (F) and expanding Linux to the full 20 GB drive (C) which
used to be split between Windows and Linux. I presume I would still
have to partition the new 80 GB drive (F) to give the new HP writer
and reader about 60 GB of swap space. Yes or No?  Will 60 GB  be 
adequate for the CD/DVD burner swap space?  Yes or No? I do not want
to have to load and unload the swap space repeatedly to get my work
done. 

Another project I have in mind:  Although I still maintain that my
old Toshiba Satellite 220 Windows 95 is the sturdiest work horse in
my network, I have pretty much given up on expanding it to anything
larger. It just won't handle the added work load. It *might* be
upgradeable to Windows 98, or maybe not, but Micrsoft has said
their support of Win 98 is ending in a few months, and I really do 
not think that old (1996) laptop running 122 megs would go to anymore
than that. I know it certainly would not be able to handle 2000 or
XP. So the 95 just sits there with its old parallel port camera (from
Zoom Telephonics, remember those?) and sends pictures out to whoever
wants to see them at http://patricktownson.us.tf .

But I have thought the Windows 98 (which is on a Winbook XL2 laptop) 
might be an ideal candidate for conversion to Windows 2000 or Linux.
Any thoughts from readers on this? Good idea? Bad idea?  And why? It
has a 6 GB hard drive.  At the present time (as Windows 98) it has
numerous problems: For one, it tends to just turn itself off on an
arbitrary basis. Other times, it will not permit itself to be turned
off short of forcing it down with the master switch. Mostly it is
used for feeding out to http://weatherforecast.us.tf the data from 
the weather station mechanicals on my back porch roof. 

Although each computer has its own display screen, keyboard and mouse, 
I can view them on a jumbo monitor using a KVM switch which is handy
at times.  From the master keyboard, doing <control><control> 1 through
<control><control> 3 gets me control over each computer. 
<control><control> 4 blanks the screen, and <control><control> F1 gets
me a continuously rotating display from the various computers.

Any suggestions for improving/cleaning up this mess will be appreciated.

PAT

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:36:50 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ReplayTV Announces New Flexible Pricing Model for Its


The Industry's Premium Quality DVRs, and Best Overall Value ... 
ReplayTV Announces New Flexible Pricing Model for Its Award-Winning 
5500 Series Digital Video Recorders

SANTA CLARA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 22, 2003--

        Purchasers Now Have Choice of Buying the ReplayTV Service
                   Monthly or for a Single Onetime Fee

ReplayTV(R), the inventor and creator of personal television, today
announced a new flexible pricing model for its acclaimed 5500 Series
Digital Video Recorders (DVR). Beginning immediately, consumers will
be able to purchase ReplayTV 5500 Series DVRs at the following prices:
$149.99 for the 40-hour Model RTV5504; $299.99 for the 80-hour
RTV5508; $449.99 for the 160-hour RTV5516; and $799.99 for the new
320-hour RTV5532. With each model, consumers will have the choice of
either purchasing the ReplayTV Service for a $12.95 monthly fee, or
choosing lifetime service bundled with the product for a single,
onetime payment of $299. ReplayTV 5500 Series customers who have
already purchased 3-year subscriptions to the ReplayTV Service under
the previous pricing model will have their services automatically
extended for the lifetime of the product at no additional charge.


http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200312222009_BWR__BW5508

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:30:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ReplayTV Price Drop Bait-and-Switch


Posted by michael on Thursday December 25, @11:30AM
from the falco dept.

jkeyes writes "Last week on 12/17 DNNA (new parent company of Replay 
TV) decided to drop the Replay TV 5504 model down to $149, yet the 
boxes and website said that it came with three years free service. So 
immediately it appeared on deal sites like FatWallet with Replay 
telling people on the phone who called that yes all 5504 models 
include 3 years of service so immediately Circuit City & Amazon sold 
out. Then on the 12/22 DNNA released a press release annoucing the 
new price and claiming that the 5504 models NO LONGER have 3 years 
free with them and blamed the retailers for dropping the price too 
soon. Even though their own Customer Service Reps were saying when it 
first dropped that you got 3 years free. Also to add to the issue the 
actual devices have giant green stickers on them saying Three Years 
Free AND a paper inside telling you this. Replay went on to say that 
if you had a problem with this or your replay was deactivated to just 
return it to the retailer you purchased it from."

http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/25/1428233.shtml

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:34:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Is TiVo Really All That Great?


Cable companies slashing fees, crafting services in bid to get 
consumers to hop on the TV replay bandwagon.

By Ron Lieber
The Wall Street Journal
Originally published December 29, 2003

LOS ANGELES -- The future of TiVo may be uncertain, but the TiVolution
has never been more accessible than it is this holiday season.

TiVo, which is both popular usage for newfangled alternatives to VCRs
and the brand-name of the company that helped popularize them, once
required an initial investment of hundreds of dollars. But, as new
competitors continue to emerge, most people can now try the new way of
watching and recording television for far less.

Last week, ReplayTV lowered the price on its cheapest machine to $149
and stopped forcing consumers to buy three years of service upfront,
cutting the initial cost by more than $300. Time Warner Cable this
year began a widespread rollout of a service that has a TiVo-like
digital video recorder built into the cable box and costs less than
$10 a month.

Some of Cox Communications Inc.'s customers already have cable DVR
service, and Comcast Corp. plans to roll it out to all of its
subscribers next year.

Hate your cable company? EchoStar Communications Corp.'s Dish Network
has started offering a free DVR box to new satellite TV subscribers.

Though only a tiny fraction of households now have the service, TiVo
and its progeny offer features that radically change the way people
watch television. They make it easy to record shows so you can watch
what you want, when you want. Then, they make it easy to skip
commercials [or, in the case of the Super Bowl, watch them
repeatedly].


http://www.sunspot.net/technology/bal-tivo122903,0,1069107.story

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 03:46:02 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Century-Old Math Problem May Have Been Solved


By Jascha Hoffman, Globe Correspondent,  12/30/2003

BERKELEY, Calif. --  A reclusive Russian mathematician appears to 
have answered a question that has stumped mathematicians for more 
than a century.

After a decade of isolation in St. Petersburg, over the last year 
Grigory Perelman posted a few papers to an online archive. Although 
he has no known plans to publish them, his work has sent shock waves 
through what is usually a quiet field.

At two conferences held during the last two weeks in California, a 
range of specialists scrutinized Perelman's work, trying to grasp all 
the details and look for potential flaws.

If Perelman really has proved the so-called Poincare Conjecture, as 
many believe he has, he will become known as one of the great 
mathematicians of the 21st century and will be first in line for a $1 
million prize offered by the Clay Mathematics Institute in Cambridge.

http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2003/12/30/century_old_math_problem_may_have_been_solved/

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:22:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Rumor: Apple iBox in Production


We just recently received information from a alleged member of a 
testing program at Apple.

MacOSX.com isn't in the business of spreading rumors, nor do we wish
to put ourselves into harms way, but we felt this is news worthy. We
are trying to find out as much as we can. More on this if we get it,
here you go:

The Apple iBox is a project that, in one form or another, the company 
has been working on for years. The prototypes for the first set top 
mac are still found on eBay today. Little is known about these, but I 
do know some interesting things about what's now called the iBox.

The iBox has a small, sleek encasement that is about 10 inches long, 6
inches wide and 1 - 1 1/2 inches thick. Its optical drive is slot
loading and it has an on button that resembles the cube's power
"button." Its case is made of the same material found on the G5, even
sports the same grey logo on the top. The front, or face, of the iBox
is pearl white, similar to an iPod.

http://www.macosx.com/content/article.php?cid=53

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From: Joe@nospamcity.com
Subject: Re: Step, Panel and XP
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 05:56:50 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


jsw@ivgate.omahug.org wrote:

> The Manawa office in Council Bluffs, IA (Omaha, NE area, 712-366) used
> what was called 'Directorized SxS'.  This was an outboard conversion
> used on some Ma Bell (and maybe others) step offices to approach
> common control.  This conversion was most likely done in the 1960's,
> and provided dial tone to the subscriber, and recorded the dialed
> number, either in dial pulses or touch-tone tones.  For interoffice
> calls it then drove the switch train, and for intra-office it provided
> the signaling (MF, dial-pulse, possibly even revertive - I dunno) that
> the called office expected.  This installation lasted until the mid
> 1980's when the Manawa office was cut to a DMS-10.

General Telephone used directors on the SxS switches extensively after the
advent of DID.

I had the misfortune of living in a Los Angeles suburb from 1969 until
1979 served by General Telephone of California.  The director didn't
create a problem until you made a toll call, which brought the yellow
punch tape AMA kludge into play.  I made lots and lots of long
distance calls, and my failure rate was close to 50%.  The thing would
sit there in silence for 90 seconds, then provide overflow tone.

I finally brought in a foreign exchange line from a contiguous Pacific
Bell exchange served by a then-new 1ESS.  But, GT put it on analog
carrier and the sound quality was lousy with echo and tinnines.  I
raised cain and they finally cut it to PCM carrier with proper
supervision, no less, and I finally was in business.

I left the area in 1979, but GT didn't cut that office to a GTD5 until
1987.

Now, today, in 2004, the former GTE, now Verizon, is probably better
for local service in California than SBC (former Pacific Telephone,
then Pacific Bell).

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Step, Panel and XP
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:51:28 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com


On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:37:17 CST, jsw@ivgate.omahug.org wrote:

> It seems like many of Ma Bell's step offices used a similar type of
> tone plant, one with the 'flatulent' ringback, and that most of their
> panel offices (as well as most 1XB and many 5XB) used the very
> familiar 'metropolitan' tone plant, but I know of many exceptions,
> making it not trivial to determine the CO type just by the
> dial/ring/busy tones.

You are probably speaking of a Western Electric #355 (Terminal Per
Station) or #356 (Terminal Per Line) CDO (community dial office.)

> I do remember, for example, that some of Ma Bell's step offices had a
> ring tone that appeared to come from the same type of tone plant used
> in the newer 5XB offices, one that to the untrained ear sounded very
> much like today's standard ring tone.

Saugus, Massachusetts was one of these.

You can find many of these illustrated on the "Phone Trips" web site
<http://www.wideweb.com/phonetrips/>  Lots of stuff to look at and
listen to.  Be sure to check out "Network sounds of the '70s" parts 1
and 2.

> And then there was this strange ring tone best described as a 'low
> rumble' that occasionally appeared on some of Ma Bell's 5XB offices. I
> never figured that one out.  It was barely audible on some LD calls.
> It almost sounded like only the spurious harmonics of the ring signal.

Saugus, Massachusetts had this for their #5XB.  Of course now most
everything's the same boring ESS with the same basic tone everywhere
in Canada and the US.

------------------------------

From: sushilover111@hotmail.com (Rob)
Subject: Problem With Distorted Fax Using VoIP
Date:  2 Jan 2004 06:54:55 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi,

I currently use a Cisco VoIP system that works very well for voice
calls. We use CallManager 3.2.2c. We use 6608 gateways to access the
PSTN via several PRI lines. These PRI's support both voice calls and
fax machines to and from the PSTN. We use both 6624 and VG248 gateways
to connect to fax machines.

Voice calls to and from the PSTN work very well -- excellent quality,
reliability, etc.

Fax calls are sporadically problematic. Some faxes are received with
part of a page "scrunched." That is, the entire page of the fax is
present (and mostly readable), but an inch or two of the page will
have been compressed on the received fax to a space much smaller -- a
half inch or so. This distortion is very noticable. Usually you can
still read the "compressed" text, but obviously the quality of that
section is very poor. It doesn't appear to happen nearly all the time.

Also it "seems" like it is more likely to happen from a caller outside
of New England. We are located in Eastern Massachusetts, so I'm
wondering if the problem occurs when calls travel via AT&T (before
being delivered to us by Verizon) as opposed to calls that strictly
stay on Verizon's network (as calls within New England are likely to
do)?? Since the problem only occurs on 5-10% (just a guess) of faxes,
identifying possible problem sources is difficult.

Any ideas?

Thanks - Rob.

------------------------------

From: David <someone@some-where.com>
Subject: Re: Taxes on Phone Bills - Ouch
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 15:48:51 GMT


<Joe@nospamcity.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.1.16@telecom-digest.org:

> Second line for basic charge of $8.95?  Wow!

> David wrote:

>> I recently got ADSL service and looked at what it would take to keep
>> my second phone line for fax use.

>> Monthly fee:

>> Line with local service: $8.95

>> Taxes: 911 Tax, Al Gore Tax, Spanish American War Tax, State Utility
>> Tax,Sales Tax =$6.00.

>> I dropped the second line because of 67% taxes. If not for that, I
>> would have kept it.

>> David

I guess I should have stated, monthly fee = $8.95 + $6.00 = $14.95, if
I do not make a single call.

David

------------------------------

Subject: How Are Cellphone 911 Calls Handled?
From: W Randolph Franklin <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.usual-university-domain>
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:23:10 GMT


How centralized is the processing of 911 calls from cellphones?

Here's my story:

My Verizon cellphone is 703-447-xxxx.  Last November I was waiting at
a stop light in Troy NY (local area code: 518) when an accident
occurred a few feet from me.  So I picked up my phone:

911 person: "What's your emergency?"

me: "I'm reporting an accident at Hoosick and 8th."

911 person: "Huh?"

me: "in Troy NY".

911 person: "OK, I'll transfer"

me: "I'm reporting an accident at Hoosick and 8th."

new 911 person: "Huh?"

me: "in Troy NY".

new 911 person: "OK, I'll transfer"

me: "I'm reporting an accident at Hoosick and 8th."

3rd 911 person: "OK, we'll send someone.  Was anyone hurt? ...
What's your number"

me: "Can't you get that from the ANI?"

3rd 911 person: "Not from a cellphone."

Also does the other end lock the phone against further use after the
call, or in cellphones is it the cellphone that does this?


Thanks,

/Wm. Randolph Franklin

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't think it is because it is a 
cell phone that they cannot get the number. I think it was because
of the call being transferred around and the original calling number
being lost in the switching as a result. I feel certain the first
911 person had your number, getting transferred to a second then a
third person is what lost the number.  

I do know that when I lived in Chicago and listened to the police
scanner, I would hear calls where the police officer would ask the
dispatcher, 'what phone number did the call come from?' and the
dispatcher would say 'do not have a number ... it came through the
operator.'  When people call the operator to report an emergency,
the operator is *supposed to* relay the original calling number when
she dials 312-787-0000 to report the matter. She is *supposed to*
give that number to the dispatcher. But things do not always go as
they should. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:44:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


Pat:

I assume that the final issue for v.22/2003 was #816, which was
dated and time-stamped at: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:06:00 EST

There was no mention by you as a Administrivia or such that this was
indeed the last issue anywhere in the issue (as far as I can tell...
maybe I overlooked something?) I do know that v.23 #1, the first issue
for 2004 has been prepared and emailed, as I have received my copy.

In previous "year-ends", you noted the final issue of the year/volume by
reprinting Lauren Weinstein's "The Day the Bell System Died", sung to the
tune of "The Day the Music Died/ Bye Bye Miss American Pie"

WHICH, BTW ... reminds me...

It was *** TWENTY YEARS AGO TODAY *** (1-Jan-2004) on 1-Jan-1984,
that the Bell System *DID* "officially" die as a single unit.

Divestiture was announced in press/news releases by AT&T when approved
by the Court (Green) and DOJ in early 1982 (8-January-1982 to be exact).
Preparations began throughout 1982 for the official breakup of Bell to
take effect "officially" on 1-Jan-1984. And on 1-Jan-1983, exactly one
earlier than the actual official/final date of 1-Jan-1984, there
were some major steps taken in preparation for divestiture that took
effect, but it wasn't actually until 1-Jan-1984 when divestiture
officially happened. And even though the official date of divestiture
taking effect was twenty years ago today, on 1-Jan-1984, it still took a
number of years before many "joint Bell System" functions, such as
Calling Cards, Operator Services, toll and tandem switch functions and
operations, etc. could be separated where the divested BOCs and AT&T
Communications (formerly AT&T Long Lines) were each providing their own
separate facilities. Even today, there are *STILL* some remaining legacy
vestiges of a BOC "sharing" from AT&T or vice-versa, in network
operations.

Other thing *HAVE* changed in the past twenty years ... What "was"
Western Electric, the manufacturing and equipment arm of the (one)
Bell Telephone System, with Bell Telephone Laboratories, was retained
by AT&T in 1984. However, a little over ten years later, in the
1995/96 timeframe, AT&T spun-off its equipment and (Bell) Labs
operations into Lucent, which itself has had its ups-and-downs over
the past eight or so years. (BTW, AT&T did retain a "labs" unit for
switched network operations, which was separated from "Bell Labs"
shortly before spinning off what would be known as Lucent).

I'm not going to attempt any predictions on the future, but I am
reposting what I submitted to the Digest almost seven years ago, on
Wednesday 8-Jan-1997, on the fifteenth anniversary of the
*announcement* of "forthcoming" divestiture (originally on
8-Jan-1982). Ironically also on Thursday, 8-Jan-2004 (about a week
away) will be the twenty-second anniversary of the *announcement* of
forthcoming divestiture.

This can also be found in the Archives in the back-issues:
massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/back.issues/1997.volume.17/vol17.iss001-050

      - - - -

Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 10:52:50 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: This Date in Telecom History - Divestiture


It was on this date (8-January) fifteen years ago in 1982, that the
'old' AT&T (as head of the "one Bell System") announced to the
U.S. Dept. of (in)Justice, that it would divest itself of its
(twenty-two) wholly-owned local Bell Operating (telephone)
Companies. This consent decree was supposed end the federal antitrust
lawsuit that DOJ filed against the Bell System in the mid-70's.

Back in the mid-70's, DOJ wanted AT&T to divest itself of Western
Electric and possibly Bell Labs. However, in the divestiture announced
on 8-January-1982 (which took effect 1-January-1984), AT&T kept
Western Electric and Bell Labs, but spun-off the twenty-two local
BOC's into seven new regional Bell holding companies.

More recently, AT&T spun-off Bell Labs and what used to be known as
Western Electric, into Lucent.

The count of twenty-two BOC's doesn't include Southern New England
Telephone nor Cincinnati Bell, of which AT&T only held a minority
share back in the old Bell System days. And at the time of
divestiture, both 'went their own ways' as 'independent' telcos and
were *not* placed under NYNEX nor Ameritech.

However, the total of twenty-two BOC's *does* count C&P (Chesapeake and
Potomac) *four* times, as:

C & P - Maryland
C & P - D.C.
C & P - Virginia
C & P - West Virginia

BTW, Bell Canada is *not* counted in this total of twenty-two
BOC's. Since the 1956 consent-decree, Bell Canada with Northern
Electric became more and more separated from AT&T and Western
Electric. By the early 1970's, AT&T only held about two percent of
holdings of Bell Canada. Also in the early 1970's, Bell Northern
Research was created by Bell Canada and Northern Electric as a
uniquely Canadian R&D version similar to AT&T/WECo's Bell Labs. In
1975, AT&T/WECo and NECo/Bell-Canada officially terminated what
remained of their license and service agreements. Northern Electric
had become Northern Telecom; BNR and NT are presently referred to as
Nortel.

As for divestiture and competition ... it never seems to end. There
are more entities out there than ever, involved as carriers,
resellers, manufacturers, promoters, etc. of all forms of
telecommunications. Also, there is the "Telecommunications Bill" of
1996, signed into law last year.

But fifteen years ago, who would have thought that the "one Bell
System" would have agreed to split itself up at all!

      - - - -

AND, that is what I posted (almost) seven years ago on what was the
fifteenth anniversary of the *announcement* of forthcoming (at that
time) divestiture, which officially occurred on 1-January-1984,
exactly twenty years ago today (today being Thursday 1-January-2004).

I have removed the original sig-line that appeared in my original
post.  Some information in it is no longer valid (specifically the
postal mailing address). The telephone contact info is still valid,
the email address is now a shorter domain name as appears below.

Happy New Year!

Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA (in the Land of DIXIE!)


[TELECOM Digest Edtor's Note:  It seems hard to believe that this
Digest dates back to when there was *one* phone system -- the Bell
System -- for almost everyone. In 1981-82, the Bell System ruled,
there were no cell phones, very little 'enhanced' phone features like
ESS, certainly no VOIP. Nor were there any other electronic publica-
tions on the internet dealing with phone service except for TELECOM 
Digest. Now there are at least a dozen e-publications dealing with 
phone service (in a generic sense) on the net.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Chay <caatalyst@comcast.net>
Subject: Soft Channel Bank ?
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:30:32 -0500


I am looking for a software driven / defined Channel Bank. What I have
in mind is a single board PC and backplane board that supports 12 or
more PCI slots, into which you could then slot your FXO / FXS
cards. Ideally this channel bank would then connect to a CTI
softswitch via a T1 / E1 interface.

If anyone know of or has heard of such a thing would you please let me
know. 

Thanks.

------------------------------

From: howard@rumba.ee.ualberta.ca (Walt Howard)
Subject: Re: California Plan Would Halt Trucks Remotely in Attack
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 04:45:40 UTC
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site


In article <telecom23.1.4@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> By Daniel Sorid

> SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 1 (Reuters) - Three years after a truck driver
> slammed an 18-wheeler into California's state capitol building,
> lawmakers are considering a plan to link trucks carrying hazardous
> material to a satellite tracking system that would halt them if they
> were used in a terror attack.

> The trucks would be equipped with devices that would either cut off
> fuel to the engine or turn on the brakes when activated. The proposed
> bill would implement the country's most stringent safety regulations
> for trucks carrying fuel and other hazardous materials, but it faces
> fierce opposition from local trucking companies who complain that the
> rules would make California truckers uncompetitive.

> Assemblyman John Dutra, unhappy with the slow federal pace in
> addressing the issue, introduced the bill in February 2003, and it
> passed easily in the state assembly. Amid protest from industry
> groups, the bill failed to get past the transportation committee in
> the state senate, where it will be reconsidered this year.

If they aren't real careful with this, they are going to make
hijacking a truck as easy as crashing Microsoft Windows.  It is
very important that only a very few people be able to activate
such a system, and that the system operator be able to guarantee
this.  The level of reliability required exceeds anything that
the state of California is capable of doing now.  It will also
be interesting to see how they can make such a system resist
being disabled by a disgruntled (for whatever reason) owner.



Walt Howard                         /"\  ASCII Ribbon Campaign
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From: Marcus Jervis <marcusjervis@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Barbers (was Re: 10-Digit) 
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:17:05 +0000


Dave Close <dave@compata.com> wrote:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Palmer House Hotel in Chicago and
>> the Conrad Hilton Hotel both had (maybe still) multi-chair shops. The
>> lead barber was also the cashier. Of course in addition to a haircut
>> many guys went in the shop every day to also get a shave and a facial.
>> Palmer House had twelve chairs I think; but it used to be that all
>> guys would get a haircut once a week or every two weeks at least. No
>> more.  PAT]

> I've been going to a four-chair shop in Fountain Valley California for
> most of the last ten years. Fountain Valley is in Orange County, the
> epitome of suburbia by some reconning. The owner just retired and sold
> the shop last month, but it still has four chairs and stays busy.

> However, what has disappeared are real haircuts. I'm told that using a
> straight razor is essentially optional on the California license exam
> and most barbers skip that. A few places seem to recognize the
> problem, but solve it by pretending to shave my neck, not really doing
> it. Since I can't see the process, I can only infer their action by
> the lack of a smooth result. I feel like such an old-timer!

Me too!  I was born in 1952, and can remember going with my dad to a
barber shop in the little San Joaquin valley town where we lived
around 1956 or so.  A real barber shop, with multiple chairs, and a
guy named Doc with a waxed moustache who could give you a real close
shave.

Recently after growing a beard for a few months and seeing how old I
looked when it came out all gray, I decided it would be fun to visit a
barber shop and have a real old fashioned shave, where they mix up the
hot lather in a little bowl and shave REALLY close ... not like I get
with my plastic Bic razor and aerosol canned lather.

I called around to inquire how much this would cost, and was
incredulous when after calling shop after shop, not only couldn't I
find anyone who would shave me, a lot of them weren't even sure what I
was talking about.  One of them said he'd seen a barber give a shave
in a movie once (Remember The Untouchables movie, with Robert De Niro
as Al Capone, starting his day with a close shave from his barber?).

Finally I called what sounded like an old neighborhood barber shop in
Wedgewood (Seattle).  The guy said, sure, he could shave me.

I got there and discovered this old neighborhood shop, the kind that
years ago probably had stacks of Stag magazines and Field and Stream.
Operating the shop was a Middle Eastern fellow and an Asian woman, who
I think was his wife.  Apparently he went to barber college overseas
where they still taught straight razor technique.  I imagined that he
had bought the shop a few years earlier perhaps from a retiring
barber. He did the whole routine with a very sharp razor and the hot
lather. It was great!  An amazingly close shave, unlike any I'd had
before.

The best part and most unbelievable was when I asked him the price.
"Three dollars!"  I thought I'd been transported back to the 1950s of
my early childhood!  I think I gave him seven dollars, and said I'd be
back.

Which reminds me of another story (I really am getting old).
Barbering went into decline in the late 60s and early 70s because
fewer men were getting regular haircuts.  I remember once in the
mid-60s I was at Red's Barber Shop in North City (also Seattle), and
Red was complaining about the Beatles and their long hair.  Then he
launched into some fantasy about getting "one of those long-haired
kids" in there, and how he'd like to shave all their hair off.  I
think one of the guys complained about not being able to "tell the
boys from the girls these days".

So Red's was an old fashioned barber shop, but this was just before
the decline of barbering, and those that survived had to adapt.

Sometime, maybe seven years later I was driving down 15th Ave NE in
North City, and I looked at where Red's had stood.  It was still
there, only different.  It was the early 70s, and the little shop was
now covered with cedar shake shingles, and there was a fern hanging in
the window.  The sign was different too.  It now said, "Red's Unisex
Styling Salon".

My, how things changed so fast back then.

_________________________________________________________________
Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work and 
yourself.   http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:59:32 -0800
From: Dave Close <dave@compata.com>
Subject: Barbers (was 10-Digit Dialing)
Date: 31 Dec 2003 23:52:08 -0800
Organization: Compata, Costa Mesa, California


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Palmer House Hotel in Chicago and
> the Conrad Hilton Hotel both had (maybe still) multi-chair shops. The
> lead barber was also the cashier. Of course in addition to a haircut
> many guys went in the shop every day to also get a shave and a facial.
> Palmer House had twelve chairs I think; but it used to be that all 
> guys would get a haircut once a week or every two weeks at least. No
> more.  PAT]

I've been going to a four-chair shop in Fountain Valley California for
most of the last ten years. Fountain Valley is in Orange County, the
epitome of suburbia by some reconning. The owner just retired and sold
the shop last month, but it still has four chairs and stays busy.

However, what has disappeared are real haircuts. I'm told that using a
straight razor is essentially optional on the California license exam
and most barbers skip that. A few places seem to recognize the
problem, but solve it by pretending to shave my neck, not really doing
it. Since I can't see the process, I can only infer their action by
the lack of a smooth result. I feel like such an old-timer!  

-- Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA 
dave@compata.com, +1 714 434 7359 
dhclose@alumni,caltech.edu

The cost of silicon chips has been steady at about $1bn per acre for
40 years." --Gordon Moore

------------------------------

From: Joe@nospamcity.com
Subject: Re: Then Benjamin Franklin Must be a Terrorist Too?
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 06:00:58 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


> But you see, its not just the sore losers here in the USA who hate
> Bush, a lot of people in the rest of the world don't like him (or
> his father) either.  PAT]

Hey, what about folks like me who voted for Bush and now feel like I
elected Adolf Hitler?  Trouble is, I can't stand any of the Democrats
so it is time to stay home.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well a lot of people feel like
yourself, but many are too sheepish to say how they now feel. PAT]

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    BBC Writer Can't Fathom the Internet (Ronda Hauben)
    Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004 Back on 1-Jan-1984 (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: 10-Digit Dialing (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Earle Robinson)
    Re: How Are Cellphone 911 Calls Handled? (John R. Levine)
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From: Ronda Hauben <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: BBC Writer Can't Fathom the Internet
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:26:44 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


Is there some reason the BBC can't understand what the Internet is
about, or take the trouble to spread an accurate understanding of it,
rather than a mistaken conception that makes the Internet into the one
network ARPANET?

Specifically the Internet is a network of networks -- or a metasystem
of networks. It makes it possible for diverse networks to speak to
each other.

The ARPANET was a connection of different computers and operating
systems, not at all as the BBC story portrays it. See the following
which is the BBC version of the ARPANET and Internet. And below I have
included a quote from a paper where the creation of the Internet is
described:

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Dave Farber wrote on his IP list posted:

> What the net did next
> By Mark Ward
> BBC News Online technology correspondent

(...)

> TCP/IP was key to turning the Arpanet into the internet.

> Small start

> The Arpanet came before the net and demanded that all computers that
> connect to it do so with the same hardware and software.

> By contrast, the net, thanks to TCP/IP, could let people on
> different sorts of computers running different software, swap
> information. 

The real contrast is quite different, however.

 From a paper about the ARPANET and the Internet:

    "The ARPANET solved the difficult problem of communication in
a network with dissimilar computers and dissimilar operating
systems. However, when the objective is to share resources across
the boundaries of dissimilar networks, the problems to be solved
are compounded. Different networks mean that there can be
different packet sizes to accommodate, different network
parameters such as different communication media rates, different
buffering and signaling strategies, different ways of routing
packets, and different propagation delays. Also dissimilar
networks can have different error control techniques and
different ways of determining the status of network components."

The challenge in accommodating dissimilar networks is at once
a conceptual and architectural problem. Kahn recognized the
need for a communications protocol to transmit packets from one
network, and reformat them as needed for transmission through
successive networks. This would require that there be black boxes
or gateway computers and software that would provide the interfaces
between the dissimilar networks and which would route the packets
to their destination. (18) Also there would need to be software
to carry out the functions required by the protocol. Appropriate
software modules, and perhaps other modifications to allow efficient
performance, would then have to be embedded in the operating systems
of the host computers in each of the participating networks and
gateways would have to be introduced between them. The design for such
a protocol would be a guide to create the specification standard
for the software and hardware that each network would agree to
implement to become part of an internetwork communications system.
The standards or agreements to cooperate would be set out in the
protocol."

   (from  The Birth of the Internet: An Architectural
                   Conception for Solving the Multiple Network Problem)
                http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120/other/birth_internet.txt

We want the Internet to grow and flourish. It would seem important
than to start the new year off with accurate information about its
development.

Ronda

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984
Date:  2 Jan 2004 20:51:56 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


> [TELECOM Digest Edtor's Note:  It seems hard to believe that this
> Digest dates back to when there was *one* phone system -- the Bell
> System -- for almost everyone. 

At the time, I really thought quality telephone service this
country took for granted was doomed.  It didn't work out that
way, thank goodness.

The Bell System generally (there are exceptions) ran an excellent
service.  It was the right system for the technology of the time.

But the cost of electronics were on a downhill slide in those
years.  Look what an IBM plain PC cost and what kind of machine
you'd get today with the same money.

Cheap electronics revolutionized the ability to provide local and long
distance telephone service.  In electro-mechanical days, where a
single piece of switchgear could cost $1,000, engineers had to be
judicious how many they ordered for an exchange and how they all
linked together.  But today, cheap electronics lets them be inexact,
as does cheap fiber optic links.  They still have to plan for traffic
of course, but it's a lot simpler and easier.  Computer programming is
a lot today easier when it was back then -- we don't have to count our
bits like we did, even in 1984, which led to the Y2K mess.  In reading
the histories, it's amazing the stuff they no longer have to worry
about because of cheap high capacity and electronic flexibility.

The breakup of the Bell System had two big separate parts two it:

One was the discontinuance of the rental policy.  The company
realized that the cost of renting out phones was now exceeded by
the cost of servicing them, and let that revenue source go.
I think that generally has been good for consumers, however, many
telephone sets out there today are pure junk.

The other was long distance competition.  That has always bothered
me and I think consumers and investors got screwed and still get
screwed.  Look at MCI/Worldcom.

As far as I'm concerned, if newcomers want a piece of the action,
let them pay to build their own infrastructure.  The Cable TV
company managed to build a line to my house independent of Bell.
So should local competitors -- bypass the existing company completely,
and that would eliminate all the disputes and finger pointing over
the cost of the local loop.  It might actually leave the newcomers
better off with a modern loop plant while Bell struggles with old
copper conduits.

I'm sad to say IMHO AT&T has gone really downhill.  I no longer use
them.  All the companies are interested in marketing -- they have sales
people now who know nothing of phones nor care; not the well trained
service reps of the past.  But despite that, the system still seems to
work.

> Nor were there any other electronic publications on the internet

Was there even a publicly accessible Internet back then?  I thought it
was just locally run BBS's in those days.

Back then they seemed to be converting to ESS like crazy.  I had it in
1983.

When did cell phones come out?  Originally they were a replacement for
mobile phones, and built into an automobile.  I recall watching a
"90210" rerun episode, and the guy was talking on a corded phone in
the car, which struck me as strange.  I then realized that episode was
old, and it was advanced for its day.  Then they came out with bag
phones, then hand held ones, progressing getting smaller and smaller.
It blew my mind when I got my first Motorola "flip phone" -- for free
no less, with a $20/month (limited usage) rental.  I was just like
"Captain Kirk" and his communicator; and it amazed me the power it had
at such an affordable price.

I recall reading articles in the Bell Laboratories Record about "AMPS"
which was cell phones.  I presume Bell Labs invented the concept.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Cell phones began about 1981. Chicago
was the first city to have cellular service. Sometime around 1984 I
got my first cellular phone. It was a large thing shaped like a brick,
and you wore it in a shoulder holster like thing. I got it from Radio
Shack and it cost me about seven hundred dollars and you *had* to have
a contract with Ameritech for a year or two to even be allowed to buy
a phone.  TELECOM Digest began in August, 1981, and it was originally
an ARPA group, called arpa.telecom. For a few years, the connection
to Usenet was through a gateway computer. PAT]

(Lisa then continues)

wesrock@aol.com wrote: 

> As I mentioned, the first dial office in Oklahoma City, in
> 1920, used A.E. SxS because there was no W.E. SxS equipment.  By 1927,
> there was #1 SxS from W.E., and it was installed in the downtown
> office in Oklahoma City.

Yes, originally WE had to buy its steppers from AE, but eventually
built their own.

> I'm not sure how the usage of long distance and premises
> equipment particularly affected the type of central office equipment
> to be installed.  Those were all the smae for all types of offices,
> Panel, step, #1XB.

Well, my response was based on the comment that the Bell System
didn't care much for SxS.  I'm suggesting that perhaps the more
tougher networking needs of bigger or major cities resulted in
their getting more attention.  Those cities generated more revenue
and had more traffic to justify that attention.  I dare say that
a east coast small city might have more telephone traffic than
a mid west or southwest city of the same population.  This is
because the east was more interconnected and had more national
commerce that went by phone than smaller towns which were likely
more insular back then.  In other words, a small bank in Philadelphia
probably had more long distance traffic and sophistication than a
bank of the same size in say a city like Houston.
 
>         The vast majority of interoffice trunking in cities with more
> than one office was local trunking between offices.  Los Angeles was
> probably almost unique in having substantial operator dialing to
> interzone (or "multiple message unit") and toll offices before World
> War II.

I'm not sure when message units went into effect in big eastern
cities like Phila or NYC, to save on writing toll tickets for
very short haul toll calls.  IIRC, the Bell System history says
Los Angeles had a pioneer AMA system which generated a full ticket
rather than just a counter increment.

>      One issue, of course, was of interoperability between dial and
> manual offices. But a more pressing issue in places that were all SxS
> and had grown to where the trunking arrangement, directly controlled
> by the pulses the customer dialed, had become complex and was rapidly
> becoming more complex, had no way of interfacing with offices designed
> for such complex arrangements.  

I think the Bell System history mentions an SxS tandem.

I also wonder if pre-war or early postwar calling volumes were
that large to be that troublesome.  By "large" I mean by
today's standards.  Today no one would blink at spending 15c for
a toll call, but back then even 5c was equivalent to $2.00 today.
Not a lot, but something to make people pause or limit their use
of long distance.  Also, the suburbs had yet to have their big
postwar book.  When the boom hit, the suburbs did have inadequate
telephone capacity -- some places didn't even have phones except for
some corner phonebanks, others had mandatory party lines.

> just accepting that there were some local routes that couldn't be
> economically automated and requiring customers to dial "operator,"
> who then completed the call for the customer (a solution that was
> adopted in Houston).

We forget that automation, especially sophisticated common control,
was very expensive, and it took a lot of volume to justify eliminating
manual service.  Indeed, well into the 1960s, long distance still
required an operating to get the caller's number before ANI.

> "Britton, OK", no doubt to the confusion of many callers.  (That, of
> course, is not unique anywhere around the country -- there are many
> rate points like that around the country that, in many cases, have no
> current place name to give you a clue.)

In suburban Philadelphia, there were two towns that were their
own rate center, but actually served by city exchanges.  One
was MElrose 5 in Melrose Park (also Elkins Park*) which is served
out of the city's WAVerly exchange.  The other was ESsex 9 in 
Cheltenham, served out of the city's FIdelity/PI exchange.
(There were separate PIoneer and PIlgrim buildings, and I
always get them confused, both served northeast Phila.)

*The very same Elkins Park mentioned recently in this newsgroup.

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
Subject: Re: 10-Digit Dialing
Date: 2 Jan 2004 16:25:10 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: 

> The old style manual exchanges had two groups of holes. 
> Along the top the holes were tie lines to other exchanges and closer
> to the bottom were the numbers on that exchange. 

In cities, there was not enough room on a boardface for all the
jacks.  To accomodate, traffic was split between "A" and "B" operators.
The A operator answered the subscriber and listened for the exchange
and number.  She plugged into the exchange only and reached a "B"
operator for that exchange.  The "B" operator was told the number
and plugged into that jack.

> The operators' training was very intense *before* an operator was
> allowed to work alone at a position.

I talked to our town's now retired switchboard operator.  When she
started on the town manual board, things were pretty informal.  The
operators acted as they did in the "Mayberry" literature -- knowing
where the doctor and other public safety people were, etc.  She said
operating procedures were pretty informal.  Any complex calls (ie long
distance) were forwarded to the next town.

When the town went dial in 1954, she transferred to a nearby city.
That was more as you described -- extremely regimented and structured
and certainly not as pleasant to work at.
 
> Because the operators were very well trained, call set up time was
> usually the same as or slightly less than in automated dialing days,
> at least in the earliest of days when 'rotary dialing' was done. By
> the time the subscriber got the phone to his ear, heard the dial
> tone, and dialed out all seven digits and the call got set up in 
> the equipment the manual office operators would have finished two or
> three such calls. 

Don't forget that in small towns often only a few digits were required
to dial a call, so dialing was fast.

Long distance, on the other hand, was slow and expensive. Until about
the late 1950s, it was cheaper to send a telegram, and people wrote
letters for social conversation to distant relatives.

People from those days tell me service was pretty fast in normal
conditions.  But it would be slow in abnormal conditions.  It cities
there was no social conversation.  The Bell System history says way
back ringing was automated and provided a signal, and a busy signal
was provided too.

There was high turnover in the job.  In the early days, they fired
girls when they got married.  In later years, people just got tired of
it and quit.  Some women went on to become PBX operators, being "Bell
trained" was an important job requirement.  PBX operations varied
greatly -- some big boards were as bustling and impersonal as a central
office, while others provided more personal service.

After WW II, traffic went up but the system didn't have enough
capacity to support it.  Service quality suffered in some places.

People take the telephone for granted these days, and have done so
since the 1960s.  But in the 1950s and earlier, the telephone was an
expensive appliance.  Not everyone even had one, and a great many had
party lines to save money.  The flip side is that people tended to
live much closer together in the cities and towns and didn't need the
telephone to stay in touch -- they'd just walk down to the corner
drugstore/soda fountain.  For rural people it was a lifeline.  Once
the Bell System got the postwar capacity trouble under control in the
1960s, it began to advertise the telephone as a luxury--extensions,
premium sets, teenager extensions and later separate lines.

Inflation note: Prices in the WW II era are roughly 20 times for
today.  That is, a 5c coin phone call back then would cost $2.00
today.  A $2/month phone bill would equate to $40 today, and I suspect
most local service back then ran about $3-$4, equivalent to $60 to $80
today for very basic service.

------------------------------

From: Earle Robinson <Withheld at writer's request>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 01:36:35 +0100


Please hide my email address.  Thank you.
 
> A better question is why the system in the rest of the world is
> different from the system in the US since North America had long
> distance dialing first.

> The technical difference between the two is that the NANP uses "en
> bloc" signalling which collects all the dialed digits and then
> >attempts to complete the call, while the ITU system uses
> "compelled" signalling which routes calls a few digits at a time.
> This means that the NANP system needed phone numbers where the
> originating switch could tell how many digits would be in the
> number, so numbers are fixed length, while> the ITU system just sent
> digits down the line and let the remote switch ask for as many as it
> wanted, permitting variable length numbers.

While the NANP system had its merits as you point out, the ITU
nowadays is more logical.  First of all, it avoids all those area code
changes that occur periodically in the states. It also is simpler and
more flexible. In countries like Germany, you can dial the number and
the extension number.  There is no limit on the number of digits, as
you point out, with the ITU system. Here in France we have an
implementation that permits easy dialing around for long distance
calls, too.  

The initial 0 signifies that the phone company selected as the
designate local carrier is to be used.  (Note that one may choose
another one quite easily.) Then the country is divided into 5 areas, 1
for the Paris area, 2 for the Northeast, 3 for the Northwest, 4 for
the Southwest and 5 for the Southeast.  Cell numbers are use the 6 and
8 is for special numbers.  So, a call say to the Paris area might be
01-4444-5555.  However, if you wished to use say tele2 for the call,
you'd dial 41-4444-5555.  International calls are initiated using the
standard 00.  But, if you wish to use say tele2 you'd dial 40, then
the country code, and finally the number.  For example, a call to New
York City might be 401-212-444-5555.  For those carriers that aren't
fortunate enough to have their own single digit a 4 digit prefix must
be used.  An example using budgetelecom to call New York City would be
3111-00-1212-444-5555.


Earle Robinson

------------------------------

Date: 2 Jan 2004 20:13:10 -0000
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: How Are Cellphone 911 Calls Handled?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> My Verizon cellphone is 703-447-xxxx.  Last November I was waiting at
> a stop light in Troy NY (local area code: 518) when an accident
> occurred a few feet from me.  So I picked up my phone:

I believe that cellular 911 goes to the state police here in NY.  But
I don't know why you'd need two transfers to get to the right
department.  Usually they'd transfer you directly to the correct
place.

In our county, there's one PSAP run by the county sheriff's department
that handles all the 911 dispatching.  The city and village police
cover their respective municipalities, the university departments
cover Cornell and Ithaca college, and the sheriff's deputies cover
everything else.  Some of the departments don't have 24/7 coverage so
the PSAP has the schedule to know when a department has a car on call
and when to call the sheriff.

They might have transferred you to the county and the city does its
own dispatch.


Regards,

John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

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From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: How Are Cellphone 911 Calls Handled?
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:14:46 -0600


W Randolph Franklin <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.usual-university-domain> wrote:
 
> me: "Can't you get that from the ANI?"

> 3rd 911 person: "Not from a cellphone."
 
Of course they can't get your location from a cellphone. :)

The best they can do is get an approximate location based on which
cell towers you are connecting to/have connected to in the past few
minutes.

Remember that a cellphone can physically be located ANYWHERE, unlike a
landline.

The carriers are working to fix this, but the 911 call centers have to
upgrade their equipment too ...

> of the call being transferred around and the original calling number
> being lost in the switching as a result. I feel certain the first
> 911 person had your number, getting transferred to a second then a
> third person is what lost the number.  

But you're still not guaranteed that the call from a cell will be from
any given location. I could be at my house in Apple Valley when
calling from my cell, or I could be clear across the country in New
York City, for example.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * sjsobol@JustThe.net

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not think she asked the man where
he was located .. she asked him *what his number was*.   PAT

------------------------------

Subject: Re: California Plan Would Halt Trucks Remotely in Attack
From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley)
Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:01:58 GMT


> If they aren't real careful with this, they are going to make
> hijacking a truck as easy as crashing Microsoft Windows.

Yea. On a similar (but possibly even more frightening note) there was
a segment on the news the other day about technology being developed
to take over the controls of airplanes and divert them automatically
from "no fly" zones.

My first reaction was: "Great, now terrorists won't need suicide
missions to take over airplanes, they can just hijack the technology
the manufacturers will be conveniently adding for them to allow the
control system to take over the plane and override the pilot ...".

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From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:35:04 EST
Subject: Re: Step, Panel and XP


In a message dated Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:37:17 CST jsw@ivgate.omahug.org
wrote:

> The Manawa office in Council Bluffs, IA (Omaha, NE area, 712-366) used
> what was called 'Directorized SxS'.  This was an outboard conversion
> used on some Ma Bell (and maybe others) step offices to approach
> common control.  This conversion was most likely done in the 1960's,
> and provided dial tone to the subscriber, and recorded the dialed
> number, either in dial pulses or touch-tone tones.  For interoffice
> calls it then drove the switch train, and for intra-office it provided
> the signaling (MF, dial-pulse, possibly even revertive - I dunno) that
> the called office expected.  This installation lasted until the mid
> 1980's when the Manawa office was cut to a DMS-10.

The senders used in the London (UK) exchange (all step at the time)
were called directors.  For some reason I got the idea that "Director"
was perhaps the trademark of a particular manufacturer.  Someone else
commented about the "directors" used by General Telephone on step
offices in the L.A. area, so perhaps A.E. owned the rights to the name
in the U.S.A.

I think you have "interoffice" and "intra-office" reversed in your
description.  And not only did the sender of director put out the type
of signalling needed by the office being called, or offices which it
tandemed through, it translated the routing based on the prefix digit
dialed, permitting routing that might bear no resemblance to the
original three digits and perhaps even adding additional prefix digits
as needed to reach the desired office.  Originally this was the only
purpose of it; putting out signalling other than dial pulses was not
part of its original function.

>> Panel Type and 1XB had no provision for dealing with SxS pulsing.  When
>> 1XB came around, presumably the easterners assumed that any place which
>> would need them would be panel.

> Panel used the 'revertive' signaling method, possibly invented by Rube
> Goldberg <bfg> which, to make it very simple, the called office
> advanced the contact and the calling office told the called office
> when to stop.  This was emulated in the #1 crossbar, as it was
> intended to be compatible with the panel system.  (I also vaguely
> remember that the 1ESS was able to speak revertive as well.)

In reading the descriptions of #1XB, I was amused to learn, with what
seemed the narrow and short-sighted ideas of the invenstors and
designers, that revertive signalling, indeed a Rube Goldberg system,
was used between two #1 XB offices, emulating panel even when there
was no panel office involved.

> When placing a call from a panel office, the revertive pulse sounds
> could often be heard as a distinctive 'scratch-scratch' sound during
> dialing.

> I'm familiar with the way both the Omaha and NYC phone systems were
> back in the electromechanical days, and both used panel and 1XB
> extensively with lots of revertive pulsing between the various
> offices.  (Ma Bell's first full-scale panel office was in the Atlantic
> office in Omaha. Years ago I provided information about this to the
> Digest here.)  Both areas used 5XB for newer installations until the
> early 1970's.

> There were pockets of SxS around both Omaha and NYC, often appearing
> as DID implementations, but occasionally for POTS, as in the Manawa
> office I mentioned above.  (I remember specifically that Columbia U in
> Manhattan and Union Pacific in Omaha used such a scheme.)

Did these two users own their own switching equipment?  Railroads were
entitled to, as "right-of-way" companies; don't know about educational
institutions.

Fort Sam Houston, Texas, and Fort Sill, Oklahoma.  Both of those were
Signal Corps owned and operated SxS systems.  It turned out that DID
worked just fine by giving them prefixes and treating them as any
other SxS office.  (This is, of course, simplifying, since the
incoming and outgoing trunking had to be greatly changed, but
basically it was no big problem.)  The Bell offices they worked out of
were either SxS or #5XB, so that presented no problem.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:15:15 -0500
From: Gene Gaines <gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com>
Organization: Gaines Group
Subject: Re: My Upgraded Computer System


Pat,

I have an old Sharp laptop (same CPU speed as yours) running Windows
95.  I just does the job, and I love it.  I sympathize with you in
giving up an old "favorite hunting dog" like this.  You never can tell
about that old stuff.  Last week a friend of mine was throwing out an
old IBM Wi-Fi card, my wife grabbed it and brought it home, we threw
it into the old 95 laptop, installed the software, and the darned
thing is doing Wi-Fi wireless all over the house (course, the battery
gave up holding a charge about two years ago, has to operate on house
power.)

On Windows 98 ...

I have downloaded ALL the fixes and upgrades for Windows 98 II from
Microsoft, can send them to you on a CD if they would help you.

Good luck with the housecleaning.

Gene
gene.gaines@gainesgroup.com

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From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Then Benjamin Franklin Must be a Terrorist Too?
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 22:21:08 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: XOme


Quoth Joe@nospamcity.com in news:telecom23.2.17@telecom-digest.org:

>> But you see, its not just the sore losers here in the USA who hate
>> Bush, a lot of people in the rest of the world don't like him (or
>> his father) either.  PAT]

> Hey, what about folks like me who voted for Bush and now feel like I
> elected Adolf Hitler?  Trouble is, I can't stand any of the Democrats
> so it is time to stay home.

You can't seriously tell me that you prefer Hitler to Dean.

Staying home is how the non-Nazi Germans got Hitler in the 30's.  The
Nazis didn't stay home -- they elected him democratically on August
19, 1934.

One man, one vote, one time.  

We need to make sure to vote in the 2004 election, or we may not be
permitted to do so in 2008.

And no, I'm not exaggerating.  Democracy is always tenuous, but this
year it is more tenuous than most years.


"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they 
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these 
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them 
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S. 

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
Subject: Re: Then Benjamin Franklin Must be a Terrorist Too?
Date: 3 Jan 2004 10:15:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


A Nony Mous wrote:
 
> According to the last news reports I read, Bush actually won the 
> elections in Florida (a group of news organizations had their own, 
> unofficial, recount) which gave him the Electoral College majority 
> required.

That is true.

I don't understand why Bush critics don't focus on the real spoiler
of that election -- Ralph Nader.  Had he pulled out, Gore would've
won with an unquestioned majority.
 
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: 

> But I do believe if Mr. Gore had taken (through whatever rationale)
> the office of President there is a reasonably good chance that
> 9/11/01 would have not occurred ... But Bush II went into office a
> bit more belicose and beligerant than his predecessor ...

I must disagree with that.

IIRC, the enemy planned the attack well before Bush entered office and
attempted to destroy the WTC during Clinton's term, as well as
attacked other U.S. targets world wide.

> almost daring the folks in the middle east to cause trouble, which
> of course they did.

I disagree with the notion that the attack on the U.S. was the result
of anything the U.S. said or did.  The attack was not rational in the
sense it was designed to change US foreign policy or limit US military
capability.  The attack was simply to murder innocent people and
destroy property -- as an end in itself.

> ... Clinton was too laid back for anything like that; so, I suspect,
> would have been Gore.

I can't help but wonder if Clinton was distracted by the impeachment
proceedings and Monicagate nonsense to the extent he ignored warning
signs or lost credibility to use legitimate military action against
those who attempted to destroy the WTC the first time.  He tried one
limited effort and was roundly criticized for doing so.

> But you see, its not just the sore losers here in the USA who hate
> Bush...

Both Clinton and Bush Jr are passionately hated by their critics and I
find this very disturbing.  The conservatives hated Clinton since he
(to them) represented everything wrong about the 1960s.  Newsweek
reported that they were indeed out to get him and looking for
something when Paula Jones came along and they jumped on that with big
money and legal resources.  That was bad for the country.

But the liberals hated Bush the moment he was elected.  Many think the
U.S. somehow "deserved" 9/11 because of its foreign policy which is
absurb (unless you believe that the U.S. should be 100% isolated from
the rest of the world without any trade.)  And screaming about every
decision Bush makes isn't good for the country either.

> a lot of people in the rest of the world don't like him (or his
> father) either.  PAT]

That is something I don't understand and makes no sense.  When Bush
declared his intent to go into Iraq, the critics went nuts, seeing
Bush as far worse than Saddam.  If that were really true, then these
people would be demanding Saddam be restored to power since Bush had
no business removing him, yet I don't hear anyone suggesting that.

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From: kd1s@aol.com (Kd1s)
Date: 04 Jan 2004 01:14:04 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


> Well, my response was based on the comment that the Bell System
> didn't care much for SxS.  I'm suggesting that perhaps the more
> tougher networking needs of bigger or major cities resulted in
> their getting more attention.  Those cities generated more revenue
> and had more traffic to justify that attention.  I dare say that
> a east coast small city might have more telephone traffic than
> a mid west or southwest city of the same population.  This is
> because the east was more interconnected and had more national
> commerce that went by phone than smaller towns which were likely
> more insular back then.  In other words, a small bank in Philadelphia
> probably had more long distance traffic and sophistication than a
> bank of the same size in say a city like Houston.

Under Bell System management it wasn't that the smaller cities were
more interconnected to begin with (They probably were - especially New
England) but that wasn't the prime motivator for things like
Providence having a Panel swtich, or RI being an all digital state way
before the rest of the country.

Instead it all has to do with profitability. Those Bell Operating
Companies that consistently showed profit got the best of the
best. It's why New York city had some of the worst telecom gear in the
60's through the early 80's.  They simply weren't profitable.

I believe the term is diseconomies of scale. 

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 06:44:31 GMT


On 2 Jan 2004 20:51:56 -0800, Jeff nor Lisa 
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> posted the following to comp.dcom.telecom:

> The breakup of the Bell System had two big separate parts two it:

> One was the discontinuance of the rental policy.  The company
> realized that the cost of renting out phones was now exceeded by
> the cost of servicing them, and let that revenue source go.
> I think that generally has been good for consumers, however, many
> telephone sets out there today are pure junk.

The "discontinuance of the rental policy" was not an economic decision
by the telcos.  Telephone rentals were a cash cow, pure gravy.  They
would never have discontinued them if it was up to them, and they
opposed the end of phone rentals vigorously.

In fact, the FCC forced this in a series of decisions, summarized
(with some simplifications) as follows: First, it decided to allow
competition in the provision of telecom equipment and the attachment
of such equipment to the telephone network, provided it met certain
standards.  The telcos fought this, unsuccessfully, but nevertheless
managed to suppress equipment competition to some extent by continuing
to require equipment rental by requiring it in the tariff for phone
service.  Next, in the Second Computer Inquiry, also known as Computer
II, the FCC decided to separate telecom service from customer premises
equipment (CPE); the former was to be a common carrier service and the
latter a non-common-carrier matter.  The telcos appealed this and
lost.  The FCC then decided that CPE could not be offered as part of a
tariffed service and required a phase-out of all such arrangements.
Telcos had to offer customers with in-place equipment the opportunity
to buy it or have it removed, or to continue leasing it.  The telcos
appealed this and lost.

> The other was long distance competition.  That has always bothered
> me and I think consumers and investors got screwed and still get
> screwed.  Look at MCI/Worldcom.

Investors in MCI did very well until the service became a commodity
and MCI couldn't make a profit the old-fashioned way.  Consumers
unquestionably benefited from long-distance competition.  If there had
not been an MCI or a Sprint, you'd still be paying $1 or more per
minute for a long-distance call, in 1975 dollars.  Now, long-distance
is practically free.  How are consumers screwed?  The only ones who
are screwed are the ones who use a major carrier's "standard" rates,
which apply to nobody except those who don't even try to find a
reasonable rate.

> As far as I'm concerned, if newcomers want a piece of the action,
> let them pay to build their own infrastructure.  The Cable TV
> company managed to build a line to my house independent of Bell.
> So should local competitors -- bypass the existing company completely,
> and that would eliminate all the disputes and finger pointing over
> the cost of the local loop.  It might actually leave the newcomers
> better off with a modern loop plant while Bell struggles with old
> copper conduits.

I agree completely, except that Congress decided otherwise in the 1996
Telecom Act.
 
> When did cell phones come out?  Originally they were a replacement for
> mobile phones, and built into an automobile.  I recall watching a
> "90210" rerun episode, and the guy was talking on a corded phone in
> the car, which struck me as strange.  I then realized that episode was
> old, and it was advanced for its day.  Then they came out with bag
> phones, then hand held ones, progressing getting smaller and smaller.
> It blew my mind when I got my first Motorola "flip phone" -- for free
> no less, with a $20/month (limited usage) rental.  I was just like
> "Captain Kirk" and his communicator; and it amazed me the power it had
> at such an affordable price.

> I recall reading articles in the Bell Laboratories Record about "AMPS"
> which was cell phones.  I presume Bell Labs invented the concept.

Bell Labs invented the "concept" of cellular phone service, which was
first publicly set forth in a 1971 technical report filed with the
FCC.  AT&T had lobbied for "hi-cap" mobile phone service for years
before that and the FCC had begun an inquiry into the issue in 1968 in
response.  The FCC allocated spectrum for cellphones in 1974-75, but
before setting rules for licensing wanted pilot programs.  The Bell
Systems Technical Journal devoted an entire issue (in 1975 or 1976, I
think) to the subject.  

There were two pilot "developmental" programs, in the late 1970s:
AT&T/Bell Labs' program, as implemented by Illinois Bell in Chicago,
and Motorola's program, as implemented by Advanced Radio Telephone
Service in Washington/Baltimore.  These went online in the 1977-1978
timeframe.  Based on the results of the experiments, the FCC initiated
a proceedig at the end of 1979 to set rules for commercial cellular
service and adopted rules in 1981, which were further refined numerous
times.  Regular commercial service commenced in late 1983.  At that
point, the customer equipment was mostly limited to vehicular mobile
phones (a box in the trunk, connected to a handset in the car),
although Motorola made a limited number of brick-sized handhelds
available.  

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Cell phones began about
> 1981. Chicago was the first city to have cellular service. Sometime
> around 1984 I got my first cellular phone. It was a large thing
> shaped like a brick, and you wore it in a shoulder holster like
> thing. I got it from Radio Shack and it cost me about seven hundred
> dollars and you *had* to have a contract with Ameritech for a year
> or two to even be allowed to buy a phone.  TELECOM Digest began in
> August, 1981, and it was originally an ARPA group, called
> arpa.telecom. For a few years, the connection to Usenet was through
> a gateway computer. PAT]

See above.

Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 07:01:56 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On 2 Jan 2004 20:51:56 -0800, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
wrote:

> I recall reading articles in the Bell Laboratories Record about "AMPS"
> which was cell phones.  I presume Bell Labs invented the concept.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa070899.htm

"By 1982, the slow-moving FCC finally authorized commercial cellular
service for the USA. A year later, the first American commercial
analog cellular service or AMPS (Advanced Mobile Phone Service) was
made available in Chicago by Ameritech."

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:36:12 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering


Earle Robinson (no email address indicated) wrote:

> While the NANP system had its merits as you point out, the ITU
> nowadays is more logical.  First of all, it avoids all those area code
> changes that occur periodically in the states. It also is simpler and
> more flexible. In countries like Germany, you can dial the number and
> the extension number.  There is no limit on the number of digits, as
> you point out, with the ITU system.

Well, I beg to differ. The NANP system has *always* been more logical
than "other countries". (and note that I don't say "ITU" system).

First, the ITU is mostly concerned with country codes and with few
exceptions doesn't dictate what *internal* domestic national numbering
plans must be like. There are certain standards, in that the DECIMAL
system of numeric digits will be used for basic numbering/addressing,
even though the "*/#" and sometimes even fourth-column DTMF "A/B/C/D"
are valid DTMF signals ... but for the most part, the ITU stays *OUT*
of national numbering schemes.

The NANP -- the US and Canada for the most part -- is "more-or-less"
the same as it was 50+ years ago in 1947. We are still using the same
"basic" ten-digit intra-NANP numbering format, although generallized a
bit more.

In 1947, the basic format was:   N 0/1 X + NNX + xxxx
Today, the basic format is:          NXX + NXX + xxxx

where N = any possible digit from 2 thru 9 (eight possiblities),
and X = ANY of the ten possible decimal digits 0 thru 9.

Actually, in the 1940s/50s and even early 60s (and in some places into
the 1970s), the "office code" portion, the D-E-F position digits of
the ten-digit NANP number were even generally a bit more restricted
than the "general" NNX format.

When using pure numeric-digits for the office code of the NNX format,
you could have a theoretical possibility of 640 office codes (aka
exchanges, prefixes, etc) within an area code ...

Doing the Math for N-N-X gives 8 x 8 x 10 = 640

However, because the US/Canada was still using "EXchange NAme DIaling"
in the 1950s era, where the first two letters of a name were
indicated, there were certain word/letter combinations rarely used or
impossible to come up with, meaning that those corresponding numeric
combinations were un-used altogether. For the most part, this was the
55x, 57x, 95x, 97x ranges, since there are no (regular) vowels on the
5 (JKL), 7 (PRS), W (WXY), it was difficult to impossible to come up
with a word having its first two letters correspond with these numeric
combinations.

Also, the third digit of '0' (zero), the 'F' position digit in the
office code (D-E-F position digits) was usually avoided because it
might be confused with the letter 'O' (oh) which is traditionally on
the '6' on NANP dials.

So, back in "the days", the usually expected theoretical maximum of
office-codes (D-E-F) was only 540:

Doing the Math:

NNX = 8x8x10 = 640

but remove the four possible ranges 55, 57, 95, 97 from the sixty-four
'NN' ranges, and you only get 60 possible *use-able* 'NN' ranges, for
the first two digits of the D-E-F office code. Then for the third
digit, you multiply by '9' rather than '10' since you are not
(usually) using a third digit of '0'. You only get 540.

Today, the "theoretical" max for both area codes and for office codes is
800, both are generally of the NXX format, 8x10x10, but you subtract
*CERTAIN* possiblities, such as the eight possible 'N11' codes which are
used as three-digit "short" special services codes.

But, as for the NANP's superiority over the "rest-of-the-world" ...

We've maintained a basic *TEN* digit "national" structure for 50+
years.  NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD can make such a similar claim!
And the US/Canada (like it or not) *IS* the leader of the world in
modern 20th/21st Century technology, culture, development, etc.

OTHER countries have had MAJOR modifications to their numbering plans,
including the UK, *FRANCE*, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece, the
Scandanavian countries, Aussie/NZ, Japan, etc. Sometimes it is major
modifications only to certain cities, other times it is a wholesale
change nationwide, and it could be anything in-between.

Usually other countries of the world keep adding more digits to their
national numbering. Again, the NANP's basic numbering scheme is still
at TEN-digits, which was what officially began in Oct.1947, and was
even proposed by Bell Labs in 1944/45. *DIALING* has expanded in most
places, some to ten or 1+ten-digits where it had been only
seven-digits for local calling, some places expanded from local
dialing of less-than-seven to seven back in the 1950s/early 60s to
conform with a standard (and now might even be at ten or 1+ten), but
the BASIC NANP Numbering/Routing/Switching/Signaling format is *STILL*
TEN-digit as was proposed in the 1940s and began the earliest
implementation even as far back as then as well.

YES, we've had our painful splits. Especially in the later 1990s and
all the way up to and through 2001. BUT THOSE DAYS SEEM TO BE OVER
FOREVER, now that there are safeguards in place in numbering/
assignment policies.

2002 had only eight new area codes in the US, some of them were overlays.

2003 only had three new area codes in the US, two of them from a single
three-way split of 915 in west Texas, the third was an overlay to 903 in
northeastern TX ... AND THAT WAS IT ...

2004 will have only two "known" new area codes, only ONE of them being
a split (909/951 in southern California), and the other one being 684,
which are identical to the currently assigned (ITU) digits +684 for
the "Country" code for American Samoa, a US territory which migrates
its numbering/dialing into the NANP beginning Oct.2004. There *MIGHT*
be one other southern California split in later 2004, if it is
determined that 310 will finally split off 424 this year rather than
early/mid 2005.

But as for splits ... VIRTUALLY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM of the 1990
(thru 2001) time-frame could have been an OVERLAY rather than a split,
which would have meant *NO* "changes" to observers of anyone dialing
TO the EXISTING numbers/customers in the affected area. Even locally,
the area code (if used) remained the same -- of course it HAS to be
dialed for local calls.... BUT IN FRANCE... THESE DAYS ALL DOMESTIC
(including LOCAL) calling now *HAS* to be dialed on a full "national"
basis!

(I think that there's a case of "pot calling the kettle black"
somewhere in here! :-)

As for:

> There is no limit on the number of digits ... with the ITU system.

Ummm ... well there *IS* a limit on the number of national/domestic
digits if that country wants to receive calls to its "POTS" (regular)
numbers/ customers on the automated *worldwide* network from ALL
countries with automated customer outbound Interantional Calling, and
here is where the ITU *DOES* get involved...

The MINIMUM LIMIT (ooooh there's that word LIMIT!) for a significant
worldwide number is SEVEN-digits. This means a domestic number minimum
of four-digits if they have a three-digit country-code, and a domestic
minimum of five-digits if they have a two-digit country-code.  (and if
+7 Russia and +1 NANP wanted a mimimum of less than what they each
already have, it would be six-digits for a national mimimum matched up
with the single-digit country codes).

The MAXIMUM LIMIT -- it used to be TWELVE, it is now FIFTEEN -- for a
significant worldwide number, as a matter of a standard. And one of
the primary reasons that the ITU finally expanded it from twelve to
fifteen which took effect circa 1996, was because of auto
direct-dial-in to PABX systems mostly in Germany, Austria, and a few
other European countries which were NON-standard in having LONGER than
twelve-digit worldwide numbers when you include the country-code
"itself" (+49, +43, etc) as well as the extension-digits of the
PABX. Yes, some European countries were able to implement added
customer-dialed-digit capacity in their systems to accommodate these
LONGER-than-ITU-standard numbers, but since the ITU didn't "require" a
max of greater-than-twelve at the time (until the expansion of the
requirment of the max to 15-digits circa 1996), many countries such as
carriers in the NANP didn't necessarily allow customer automated
dialing to such longer-than-twelve-significant-digit-numbers.

Again, me-thinks somewhere there is a "pot calling the kettle black"
attitude here! :-)

> Here in France we have an implementation that permits easy dialing
> around for long distance calls, too. The initial 0 signifies that the
> phone company selected as the designate local carrier is to be used.
> (Note that one may choose another one  quite easily.) ... So, a call
> say to the Paris area might be  01-4444-5555.  However, if you wished
> to use say tele2 for the call, you'd dial 41-4444-5555.  International
> calls are initiated using the standard 00.  But, if you wish to use say
> tele2 you'd dial 40, then the country code, and finally the number.
> For example, a call to New York City might be 401-212-444-5555.  For
> those carriers that aren't fortunate enough to have their own single
> digit a 4 digit prefix must be used.  An example using budgetelecom to
> call New York City would be 3111-00-1212-444-5555.

Here in the NANP, your "chosen" LD-carrier is accessed (in most cases)
when you simply dial 1+/0+ for NANP-calls (1+ for station-sent-paid, 0+
being ONE method for "alternate billing" such as Card, Collect, 3d-Pty
billing, etc), and 011+/01+ for IDDD-calls (011+ for station-sent-paid,
01+ for special-billing such as Card/Collect/etc).

If you want to use a DIFFERENT carrier than your "chosen" carrier, you
dial a STANDARD code of 101-XXXX+. It used to be 10-XXX+ but it was
expanded to 101-XXXX+ in the 1990s. Yes, it is LONGER than what is used
in France, but let's look at the geographic-size, population of, and
the overall length of time that there has been such competitive LD in
the US (and even Canada), when compared to ... France.

Also, while there was a variable length of both 10-XXX+ and 101-XXXX+
"side-by-side" in the 1994-98 timeframe while existing/previous 10-XXX+
codes were expanding to 101-0XXX+ and NEW codes were assigned first out
of the 101-5XXX+ and 101-6XXX+ ranges, until 101-0XXX+ became mandatory
for previously existing 10-XXX+ codes in 1998, and now ANY 101-XXXX+
range is assigned ... you just COULD NEVER have such variable length
code formats as a general practice in the US/Canada. Technical standards
in the long run is one reason -- simplicity and streamlining, and an
EASY and EFFICIENT way to expand when necessary... but variable length
alternate-carrier-code-dialing would be deemed *ANTI* competitive, and
even monopolistic. 

The "long-time" carriers would have shorter, easier to dial/remember
codes, while the upstarts would have longer, more difficult to
dial/remember codes. Of course, one "could" claim that the
older/longer carriers were there first and had a much larger customer
base, but things still need to be carrier/competitive NEUTRAL in the
NANP and I would even tend to think in other countries as well... I
don't know how government regulation of the telecom industry/standards
is within France, but I tend to think that MOST other developed
countries with LD competition and carrier-selection-code dialing ten
to have STANDARD/ UNIFORM length carrier-codes, or are trending to
standard uniform length codes, for the reasons I describe above as
they are here in the NANP.

There are indeed benefits to certain aspects of various non-NANP
"most-of-the-rest-of-the-world" numbering/dialing/routing/switching/
signaling... but in the long run, I know that the NANP's formats and
standards have stood up to the test of time, and will CONTINUE to do so.

Now that the "scare" of running out of numbers, and WASTE of area codes
in rash splits and over-assignments of the 1990s-thru-2001 time frame
is FINALLY over with FOR GOOD(!), here in the NANP, the current
projections to where the existing ten-digit format MIGHT need to expand
to eleven or MAYBE even twelve-digits, is for the 2040 to 2050 timeframe.
And even that projection could be pushed out further into the future as
time continues and projections are made in later years. BTW, in the
199e/94 timeframe, just prior to the NANP area code format generalizing
from N-0/1-X to NXX with an overall increase in the possible number of
area codes, the projections for an "exhaust" of a ten-digit NXX-NXX-xxxx
NANP was going to be circa 2040 to 2050, same as the current projections.
There *WAS* the "scare" that the NANP might run-out of numbers and/or
codes by 2007-2010, made back in 1998/99, but that was (IMO) mostly
"crying wolf". Of course, area code assignments/activations (splits)
in that 1998/99 period was INSANE, but that insanity is finally over.

The NANP has had changes over the years, but NO-where NEARLY as crazy
as virtually every other (developed and under-developed/non-developed)
in the world has had since the 1960s/70s...


Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA (in the LAND OF DIXIE!)

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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:05:45 -0500 (EST)
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson>
Subject: From the Archives: The Day the Bell System Died


It was twenty years ago (1984) that AT&T was divested under orders
from Judge Harold Greene, or twenty-two years ago in this next week
that the idea of divestiture of AT&T first came up, January 8, 1982 I
think.  Mark Cuccia suggested that this old archive file first
submitted by Lauren Weinstein in the summer of 1983. So, here it is,
Mark, and others.

PAT

  12-Jul-83 09:14:32-PDT,4930;000000000001
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  Date: Tuesday, 12-Jul-83 01:18:19-PDT
  From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM>
  Subject: "The Day Bell System Died"
  Return-Path: <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM>
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Greetings.  With the massive changes now taking place in the
telecommunications industry, we're all being inundated with seemingly
endless news items and points of information regarding the various
effects now beginning to take place.  However, one important element
has been missing: a song!  Since the great Tom Lehrer has retired from
the composing world, I will now attempt to fill this void with my own
light-hearted, non-serious look at a possible future of
telecommunications.  This work is entirely satirical, and none of its
lyrics are meant to be interpreted in a non-satirical manner.  The
song should be sung to the tune of Don Mclean's classic "American
Pie".  I call my version "The Day Bell System Died"...

--Lauren--

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		   *==================================*
		   * Notice: This is a satirical work *
		   *==================================*
      

	                "The Day Bell System Died"         


              Lyrics Copyright (C) 1983 by Lauren Weinstein   
		                                           	
     	             (To the tune of "American Pie")      
		   
		     (With apologies to Don McLean)
   

  ARPA: vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM
  UUCP: {decvax, ihnp4, harpo, ucbvax!lbl-csam, randvax}!vortex!lauren

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Long, long, time ago,
I can still remember,
When the local calls were "free".
And I knew if I paid my bill,
And never wished them any ill,
That the phone company would let me be...

But Uncle Sam said he knew better,
Split 'em up, for all and ever!
We'll foster competition:
It's good capital-ism!

I can't remember if I cried,
When my phone bill first tripled in size.
But something touched me deep inside,
The day... Bell System... died.

And we were singing...

Bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

Is your office Step by Step,
Or have you gotten some Crossbar yet?
Everybody used to ask...
Oh, is TSPS coming soon?
IDDD will be a boon!
And, I hope to get a Touch-Tone phone, real soon...

The color phones are really neat,
And direct dialing can't be beat!
My area code is "low":
The prestige way to go!

Oh, they just raised phone booths to a dime!
Well, I suppose it's about time.
I remember how the payphones chimed,
The day... Bell System... died.

And we were singing...

Bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

Back then we were all at one rate,
Phone installs didn't cause debate,
About who'd put which wire where...
Installers came right out to you,
No "phone stores" with their ballyhoo,
And 411 was free, seemed very fair!

But FCC wanted it seems,
To let others skim long-distance creams,
No matter 'bout the locals,
They're mostly all just yokels!

And so one day it came to pass,
That the great Bell System did collapse,
In rubble now, we all do mass,
The day... Bell System... died.

So bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

I drove on out to Murray Hill,
To see Bell Labs, some time to kill,
But the sign there said the Labs were gone.
I went back to my old CO,
Where I'd had my phone lines, years ago,
But it was empty, dark, and ever so forlorn...

No relays pulsed,
No data crooned,
No MF tones did play their tunes,
There wasn't a word spoken,
All carrier paths were broken...

And so that's how it all occurred,
Microwave horns just nests for birds,
Everything became so absurd,
The day... Bell System... died.

So bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

We were singing:

Bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?

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    Forget Your Bank Balance? It's Available on Internet (Monty Solomon)
    Apple's Tablet Computer Might Finally Be That Link (Monty Solomon)
    Re: NANP Numbering (John R. Levine)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Bob Goudreau)
    Fore ESX-3810 (bleed-22)
    Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great? (Rob)
    IN Billing (Ajith)
    Re: My Upgraded Computer System (Greg T. Knopf)
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:33:52 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Forget Your Bank Balance? It's Available on the Internet


Consumers' financial details easy pickings on the Net

By Bruce Mohl, Globe Staff, 1/4/2004

Eric F. Bourassa, a privacy advocate at the Massachusetts Public
Interest Research Group, knows how difficult it is to keep personal
financial information personal. But even he was surprised at how easy
it was for The Boston Globe to obtain his private bank account
information. Trafficking in confidential financial information is
commonplace on the Web, with a quick Google search turning up more
than a dozen sites selling everything from Social Security numbers to
bank balances. The Globe tested one of the sites in September, paying
$125 for Governor Mitt Romney's credit report and in the process
discovering a major security weakness in the nation's credit reporting
network.

In November, with Bourassa's blessing, the Globe began to explore the
shadowy world of asset search firms, which advertise that they can
unlock the financial secrets of virtually anyone. The mystery is where
these firms get their information. Does it come directly from
financial institutions? Or does it come through more indirect,
possibly illegal, methods?

The Globe agreed to pay Ohio-based I.C.U. Inc., whose Web address is
Tracerservices.com, $475 for Bourassa's bank account information and
his stock and bond holdings. Not all of the information the website
provided was accurate, but the bank account information, with the
balance listed right down to the penny, was so close that it made
Bourassa feel violated.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/004/business/Forget_your_bank_balance_It_s_available_on_the_Internet+.shtml

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:11:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Apple's Tablet Computer Might Finally Be That Link


Digital Hubris:
Apple's Tablet Computer Might Finally Be That Link Between Your PC and TV

By Robert X. Cringely

High-tech is relentlessly optimistic and for good reason: the good
times -- ALL the good times -- are caused by product transitions.  New
stuff costs more, has higher profit margins, and occasionally leads to
changes in market leadership.  A year or two later, these products
will have been commoditized, the profit sucked out of them by intense
competition, and it will be time to move on to the next big thing.
Four years ago, the cheapest 802.11b access point you could buy cost
$299.  This week, I saw one advertised that with rebates brought the
final cost down to zero, nothing, nada, zilch.  Time to move on.  So
high-tech is always looking forward, never back, and taking a gamble
on something new isn't perceived so much as a gamble but as a way of
life.

The techniques for getting us to buy new stuff vary.  In the best of
cases, these new sales are driven by new functionality -- a color
printer instead of black-and-white, a notebook computer instead of a
desktop, a DVD instead of a VCR.  At other times, the upgrade is
driven by bloat as new MIPS-burning applications and operating systems
make our old stuff too painfully slow.  This doesn't happen by
accident, folks.  And into this performance abyss we throw not just
new products but new TYPES of products, because industrial dynasties
come from defining new market niches.  Hewlett-Packard, for all its
glorious history, is more than anything else a laser printer company.
Cisco Systems, for all its desire to be something more, is a router
company.  These are niches they defined and that have led to decades
of success.

And that brings us to the tablet computer, a tightly-defined product
still in search of success.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20031127.html

------------------------------

From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: 3 Jan 2004 20:19:32 -0500
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> While the NANP system had its merits as you point out, the ITU
> nowadays is more logical.

I think all you can conclude is that people like what they're used to.
If you want to start an instant religious war, for example, ask people
from different parts of the NANP whether you should be able to dial a
short distance toll call without dialing 1 first.

> First of all, it avoids all those area code changes that occur
> periodically in the states.

Um, the UK and France have had their share of renumbering, too.  The
NANP could have avoided most of the area code changes if state
regulators had looked ahead and done overlays sooner.  It's a
political problem, not a technical one.

> It also is simpler and more flexible. In countries like Germany, you
> can dial the number and the extension number.

That's Direct Inward Dialing.  We have that here in NANP-land, too.
We probably had it first.

> There is no limit on the number of digits, as you point out, with
> the ITU system.

Actually, the limit is 15 digits, raised from 12 a few years ago when
German PBXes got really long extension numbers.

> Here in France we have an implementation that permits easy dialing
> around for long distance calls, too.

We have that, too.  Dial 011-33-1-23-45-67-89-00 for a call to Paris
with your normal carrier, dial 1010XXXX first to pick a different
carrier.  Yeah, it's a lot of digits, we have a lot of phone
companies.

Like I said, people like what they're used to.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"A book is a sneeze." - E.B. White, on the writing of Charlotte's Web

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From: Bob Goudreau <deleted at writer's request>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 21:03:31 -0500


[Please eliminate my email address too.  Thanks.]

Earle Robinson wrote:

> While the NANP system had its merits as you point out, the ITU
> nowadays is more logical.  First of all, it avoids all those area code
> changes that occur periodically in the states.

It certainly hasn't worked out that way.  In fact, I would wager that
a great proportion of people in Europe have had their phone numbers
change in the past two decades than in the NANP.  For instance, in the
UK, *every* POTS number has changed its area code at least once.
Remember when London used to be +44 1?  Then it was +44 71/81.  It may
have been +44 171/181 for awhile after that, before it went to the
current +44 20.  Similarly, every landline number in France is now
dialed differently than it was 20 years ago.  Check out the WTNG for
details on the incredible amount of numbering changes that have taken
place in Europe in recent years.  Meanwhile, in the NANP, there are
tens of millions of people who still have the same area code that they
had 30 or 40 years ago.  Even the ones who have encountered an area
code split got to keep their local numbers.  And, with overlay area
codes now the most common way to expand the numbering space, most of
us will probably never be forced to change our numbers again.

> It also is simpler and more flexible.

More flexible, yes.  Simpler, no.  A numbering plan in which all
numbers are of uniform length is simpler for people to grasp than one
in which number lengths may vary wildly even within a single town.
But even most European countries these days employ (or are moving
toward) closed numbering plans in which the total nationally-
significant phone number length is uniform (though the breakdown
between area code length and local number length may differ from area
to area).  As you note, even France now has a completely uniform
numbering-length scheme, just like the NANP.  I believe that Germany
is now probably the greatest remaining European example of fully
variable numbering, in which the number of digits in numbers can vary
even within a single exchange.  (Other, smaller examples such as
Austria remain too.)

> In countries like Germany, you can dial the number and
> the extension number.  There is no limit on the number of digits, as
> you point out, with the ITU system. 

Yes, there is.  The ITU limit is 15 significant digits, including the
country code (but not including intra-national long distance access
codes such as "0", which are not actually part of the area code).  The
ITU limit used to be 12 until less than a decade ago.


Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

------------------------------

From: wink_1000@yahoo.com (bleed-22)
Subject: Fore ESX-3810
Date: 3 Jan 2004 18:04:31 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Anyone ever have a Fore 3810 freeze up on you when you reset the
counters?

It happened to me last night, and no one believes me.  Ugh.  As soon
as I typed 'yes' and pressed enter to confirm I wanted to clear the
counters, the switch froze.  The customer's network engineer got an
automated page (via SNMP poll failure) at 6:00 in the morning that the
switch went down.

Any ideas?  Prior to resetting the counters, I viewed the System
parameters (to get uptime), viewed SONET/ATM counters and the counters
on B* (ethernet ports).

TIA.

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great?
Date: 4 Jan 2004 04:27:29 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.2.4@telecom-digest.org>:

> Cable companies slashing fees, crafting services in bid to get 
> consumers to hop on the TV replay bandwagon.

> By Ron Lieber
> The Wall Street Journal
> Originally published December 29, 2003

> LOS ANGELES -- The future of TiVo may be uncertain, but the TiVolution
> has never been more accessible than it is this holiday season.

> TiVo, which is both popular usage for newfangled alternatives to VCRs
> and the brand-name of the company that helped popularize them, once
> required an initial investment of hundreds of dollars. But, as new
> competitors continue to emerge, most people can now try the new way of
> watching and recording television for far less.

> Last week, ReplayTV lowered the price on its cheapest machine to $149
> and stopped forcing consumers to buy three years of service upfront,
> cutting the initial cost by more than $300. Time Warner Cable this
> year began a widespread rollout of a service that has a TiVo-like
> digital video recorder built into the cable box and costs less than
> $10 a month.

> Some of Cox Communications Inc.'s customers already have cable DVR
> service, and Comcast Corp. plans to roll it out to all of its
> subscribers next year.

> Hate your cable company? EchoStar Communications Corp.'s Dish Network
> has started offering a free DVR box to new satellite TV subscribers.

> Though only a tiny fraction of households now have the service, TiVo
> and its progeny offer features that radically change the way people
> watch television. They make it easy to record shows so you can watch
> what you want, when you want. Then, they make it easy to skip
> commercials [or, in the case of the Super Bowl, watch them
> repeatedly].

> http://www.sunspot.net/technology/bal-tivo122903,0,1069107.story

I remember TiVo being advertised over here in the UK several years
ago, but it never took off. In fact, I'd say it died a death.  I put
it down to Sky TV (the satellite TV company) introducing a system
called Sky+. This is a digital satellite set-top box which can record
programmes onto a hard drive without the need of a VCR or recordable
DVD.

OK, Sky+ isn't exactly cheap as you have to pay to upgrade your
current digital set-top box, but it's becoming much more popular than
TiVo ever did.

------------------------------

From: kaajith@hotmail.com (Ajith)
Subject: IN Billing
Date: 4 Jan 2004 11:02:28 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Can anybody explain how the IN Billing in telecom takes place?

------------------------------

From: Greg T. Knopf <gtknopf@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: My Upgraded Computer System
Date: 03 Jan 2004 18:36:48 EST
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Reply-To: gtknopf@concentric.net


Hello,

Just a quick note and perhaps a caveat:

TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

> Starting at about 5 PM New Year's Eve 
> ...
> I have been giving some thought to moving Windows 2000 onto the new
> 80 GB drive (F) and expanding Linux to the full 20 GB drive (C) which
> used to be split between Windows and Linux.

I know that with numerous Windows versions I have used the OS requires
that it's boot partition and home drive be on C:.  This has caused me
so much grief in the past that when I'm fooling around changing
operating systems and loading linux, etc., that I just make sure to
include the Windows partition and operating system on my first IDE
drive and in fact on the first partitions.  I would rather put my
linux swap as the first partition, for access speed reasons, but after
being driven near to madness with the @%$#! Windows assumptions I have
given up trying to move it.

This is just a little point, but it might save you some grief to keep
it in mind.

- Greg

gtknopf@concentric.net
info@knopfnet.com

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What I did was first use a program
called 'Digital Lifeguard' to entirely format the new hard drive
(known as 'F') and move all the contents of 'C' to 'F'. Then I took
the computer apart and removed the ribbon connector and power
cable from the 'C' drive. Then I put the computer back together and
booted it up to make sure it would work.  Computer *did* attempt to
boot and run Windows from 'C' but finding 'C' unavailable it moved
along to 'F' and ran okay from there.

Then I took the computer apart again, went back inside it and moved
the slave/master jumpers in reverse, so that (the now old) 'F' drive
impostered C ... and vice versa with 'F', also making the required
changes on the ribbon connector so that the 'primary' connection went
to 'C' and the secondary connection was 'F'. Then I put the computer
back together again, and was now booting from 'C' normally with 'F' as
the backup drive. I presume I could have skipped a step here and moved
the jumpers and the ribbons first, before screwing it all back
together, but having brain desease as badly as I do, I was scared of
trying to do it that way. I wanted to make sure it would work first.

Trouble now is I have no way to boot into Linux, but my Canadian
expert said he is meditating on that problem for me. Nor can I get 
Windows to recognize the full 80 GB; the Digital Lifeguard program 
could only do FAT up to about 34-35 GB. I would have had it do NTFS
for the full 80 but that would prevent Linux from being able to use
the data files of Windows. (On the old partioned C drive although I
could boot Linux or Windows, I used FAT rather that NTFS so Linux
could move around as it wished through the files, etc.) If the Canadian
guy is unable to 'convince' the computer to allow bootup choice of
Linux/Windows with Linux on (what will now be 'F') and Windows to
continue to default to (what is now) 'C' then I may wind up re-opening
the computer, reversing the slave/master relationship, restoring 'C'
back to where it was and use the entire 80 on 'F' like I had it
planned originally.  Yeah, and I may check into Stormont-Vail Medical
Center next week and get brain surgery again, also.  (wink).  PAT]

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From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: BBC Writer Can't Fathom the Internet
Date: 4 Jan 2004 04:12:00 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Ronda Hauben <ronda@panix.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.3.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> Is there some reason the BBC can't understand what the Internet is
> about, or take the trouble to spread an accurate understanding of it,
> rather than a mistaken conception that makes the Internet into the one
> network ARPANET?

No doubt because it's just that -- the BBC!  They've never *QUITE* got
the grasp of the words 'technology' and 'modernisation' -- especially
the fatcats who have offices on the top floor of Broadcasting House in
London. They seem to have the opinion that all equipment dating back
to the 1960s is still perfectly suitable for the 21st Century; while
anything introduced since then is no use whatsoever!

BTW, as you can probably guess, I'm British!

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:15:52 EST
From: Ronda Hauben <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well


On Sat, 4 Jan 2004, John Levine wrote:

>> Is there some reason the BBC can't understand what the Internet is
>> about,

> Not that I can see.  The description of the difference between the
> ARPANET and Internet in the BBC article that you quoted is quite
> accurate:

Are you saying that the ARPANET is the same as the IMP subnetwork
of the ARPANET? The whole point of the IMP subnetwork is to connect
diverse computers and diverse operating systems. The ARPANET is the
connection of these diverse computers and operating systems. It isn't
the IMP subnetwork. The IMP subnetwork is the means of connecting the
diverse computers, but is *not* the ARPANET.

>>> The Arpanet came before the net and demanded that all computers that
>>> connect to it do so with the same hardware and software.

Essentially this is saying that the Arpanet is the IMP an
interconnection of the same hardware and software. That is an
inaccurate presentation of the reality.

The ARPANET was the solution to the problem of resource sharing among
diverse computers and operating systems and their respective users.

The BBC quote above says that all of the computers that connect to
the ARPANET need the same hardware and software. This does *not*
describe the ARPANET.

The BBC reporter doesn't say that all diverse computers in the ARPANET
that connected to each other used an IMP subnetwork and NCP protocol.

But even that would not be helpful in understanding and spreading
the essence of the ARPANET among people.

>>> By contrast, the net, thanks to TCP/IP, could let people on
>>> different sorts of computers running different software, swap
>>> information.

> You comment:

>> Specifically the Internet is a network of networks -- or a metasystem
>> of networks. It makes it possible for diverse networks to speak to

> Right.

>> The ARPANET was a connection of different computers and operating
>> systems

> Nope.  The ARPANET consisted entirely of IMPs and TIPs, which were
> built from Honeywell 316 minis and later BBN's own C/30s which ran the
> IMP code after Honeywell stopped making the 316 and the occasional
> experimental machine like the multiprocessor Pluribus IMP.

Are you claiming that the ARPANET was the IMP subnetwork?  And that
the Hosts were something different?

The IMP subnetwork was part of the ARPANET, but *not* the ARPANET.
The Hosts were part of the ARPANET.

> Lots of different hosts attached to the IMPs, but the hosts were not
> part of the packet switching network.  It is true that the Arpanet
> researchers did all sorts of work trying to deal with incompatible
> data formats on the various hosts, but that was above the level of
> the ARPANET IMPs which just sent packets around.

You say "ARPANET IMPs" -

I am saying the IMP subnetwork of the ARPANET.

There is a difference between these statements.

The ARPANET includes diverse computers and operating systems such as
the SDS Sigma 7 computer system at UCLA using the SEX operating
system, the SDS-940 using GENIE at SRI, the IBM 360/75 using OS/MVT at
UCSB and the DEC PDP-10 using TENEX at the University of Utah.

These along with the IMP subnetwork are what are referred to as the
ARPANET, at its earliest stages. The significant is that all these 4
host computers were different computers using different operating
systems. It is the diversity of computers and operating systems that
were connected, that is the essence of the ARPANET.

> One of the key differences between the ARPANET and the Internet is
> that the Internet doesn't need IMPs -- the host to host protocols are
> all well defined and any kind of computer that can talk IP can play.

So are you saying that the essence of the difference between the
ARPANET and the Internet is that the Internet makes it possible to
connect computers without using IMPs?

I am saying the important difference between the INTERNET and the
ARPANET is that the Internet made it possible to connect different
networks, not just different computers. The ARPANET made it possible
to connect different computers.

> The Unix box on which I'm typing this runs its own TCP and IP software
> and connects to other hosts that speak IP, as do my Windows laptop and
> the occasional visiting Mac.  My router also happens to be a PC
> running Unix but it could be a dedicated Cisco box or anything else
> that can move IP packets from one network to another.

The architectural conception that made it possible to create TCP/IP
wasn't the effort to connect different computers and operating sytems.

It was the effort to create a way to connect different packet
switching networks. Originally the idea was to try to connect the US
ARPANET, the French CYCLADES, and the British NPL. That wasn't what
happened, but that was the impetus for the architectural conception.

One couldn't expect the French CYCLADES to become part of the ARPANET.

The French CYCLADES was a packet switching network using different
technical aspects, and was under the ownership and control of
different political and administrative entities.

>> We want the Internet to grow and flourish. It would seem important
>> than to start the new year off with accurate information about its
>> development.

What would you suggest I revise?

Perhaps you might find it of interest to read the paper. It is about
the difference between the ARPANET and the Internet. It does seem it
would be good if there were the effort to help reporters like those of
the BBC understand the difference.

> Regards,

> John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet 
> for Dummies$
> Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
> Sewer Commission$
> "A book is a sneeze." - E.B. White, on the writing of Charlotte's Web

With best wishes,

Ronda

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Date: 4 Jan 2004 01:11:14 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Is there some reason the BBC can't understand what the Internet is
> about,

Not that I can see.  The description of the difference between the
ARPANET and Internet in the BBC article that you quoted is quite
accurate:

>> The Arpanet came before the net and demanded that all computers that
>> connect to it do so with the same hardware and software.

>> By contrast, the net, thanks to TCP/IP, could let people on
>> different sorts of computers running different software, swap
>> information. 

You comment:

> Specifically the Internet is a network of networks -- or a metasystem
> of networks. It makes it possible for diverse networks to speak to
> each other.

Right.

> The ARPANET was a connection of different computers and operating
> systems

Nope.  The ARPANET consisted entirely of IMPs and TIPs, which were
built from Honeywell 316 minis and later BBN's own C/30s which ran the
IMP code after Honeywell stopped making the 316 and the occasional
experimental machine like the multiprocessor Pluribus IMP.  Lots of
different hosts attached to the IMPs, but the hosts were not part of
the packet switching network.  It is true that the Arpanet researchers
did all sorts of work trying to deal with incompatible data formats on
the various hosts, but that was above the level of the ARPANET IMPs
which just sent packets around.

One of the key differences between the ARPANET and the Internet is
that the Internet doesn't need IMPs -- the host to host protocols are
all well defined and any kind of computer that can talk IP can play.
The Unix box on which I'm typing this runs its own TCP and IP software
and connects to other hosts that speak IP, as do my Windows laptop and
the occasional visiting Mac.  My router also happens to be a PC
running Unix but it could be a dedicated Cisco box or anything else
that can move IP packets from one network to another.

> We want the Internet to grow and flourish. It would seem important
> than to start the new year off with accurate information about its
> development.

Agreed.  Perhaps now would be a good time to go back and revise the
paper of yours that you quoted.

> I am saying the important difference between the INTERNET and the
> ARPANET is that the Internet made it possible to connect different
> networks, not just different computers. The ARPANET made it possible
> to connect different computers.

This must be some different ARPANET than the one that BBN built and
that ran solely on Honeywell 316s and C/30s.  Like I said, they did
indeed connect all sorts of different computers to the ARPANET, but
the network itself was a closed system running on a single fairly
exotic set of equipment.  The redesign of the Internet that let it run
on any old hardware that people chose to connect was and is a crucial
difference and one of the most important reasons the Internet
succeeded while many other single-architecture networks didn't.  The
Internet's design to permit multiple networks was important, too, but
SNA (remember SNA?) also could handle multiple networks yet didn't go
anywhere largely due to its closed design that ran mostly on pricey
IBM communication processors.

These facts are well known and easily checked by anyone who cares to
do so, and you only make yourself look foolish by trying to argue that
the situation was and is otherwise.

I have no interest in arguing about facts, so this is my last message on
this topic.


Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:55:45 CST
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering


Bob Goudreau wrote (in reply to Earle Robinson):

> Check out the WTNG for details on the incredible amount of numbering
> changes that have taken place in Europe in recent years. Meanwhile,
> in the NANP, there are tens of millions of people who still have the
> same area code that they had 30 or 40 years ago. Even the ones who have
> encountered an area code split got to keep their local numbers. And,
> with overlay area codes now the most common way to expand the numbering
> space, most of us will probably never be forced to change our numbers
> again.

That is, most of us in the NANP will (probably) never be forced to
change our numbers again, until that time "sometime" in the future,
when the NANP might ultimately have to expand to something
"longer-than-ten-digits", by adding one (or two) digits somewhere
within the existing ten-digit number, to create a subsequent eleven
(or twelve) digit NANP number. That number "change" is going to affect
ANY/EVERY one in the NANP in one big swoop, as well as anyone who
needs to call NANP-based numbers from outside of the NANP. But there
will be a "permissive/parallel" dialing period for both intra-NANP
usage, as well as "intl/ovs"-to-NANP calling.

But current projections have that an expansion to an eleven or even
twelve digit NANP based number is now anticipated to happen in the
2040 to 2050 time frame. And IMO, as time continues, that 2040/2050
timeframe will be pushed out even further into the future!

Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@tulane.edu
New Orleans LA CSA (in the LAND of DIXIE!)

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:12:55 -0800
From: Lincoln King-Cliby <removed at writer's request>
Reply-To: linwebmain@pe.net
Organization: Is the sign of a sick mind
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


[Pat - Please remove my email address. Thanks!] 

Mark J Cuccia wrote:

<snip>

> It was *** TWENTY YEARS AGO TODAY *** (1-Jan-2004) on 1-Jan-1984,
> that the Bell System *DID* "officially" die as a single unit.

<snip> 

> Other thing *HAVE* changed in the past twenty years ... What "was"
> Western Electric, the manufacturing and equipment arm of the (one)
> Bell Telephone System, with Bell Telephone Laboratories, was retained
> by AT&T in 1984. However, a little over ten years later, in the
> 1995/96 timeframe, AT&T spun-off its equipment and (Bell) Labs
> operations into Lucent, which itself has had its ups-and-downs over
> the past eight or so years. (BTW, AT&T did retain a "labs" unit for
> switched network operations, which was separated from "Bell Labs"
> shortly before spinning off what would be known as Lucent).

<snip>

You know, it's amazing -- I was born 5 months after divestiture
[14-May-1984 to be exact] but I have a strong respect for -- and am
amazed by "The Bell System" [Yes, I know about the problems with the NIH
syndrome, and various other things -- I'm not sure I'd want to live
under an iron fisted Bell System where I couldn't do my own wiring, so
no flames, please]

But speaking of the Bell System and Western Electric -- my
Grandparents are preparing to move out of their Northern California
home and into what has been their vacation home (St. Ignace, MI -- a
beautiful area, and from what I've been told one of the last places to
cut over to direct dial service) ... when my mother and I visited them
for Christmas they were offering that they weren't moving for the
taking, I seized the opportuntiy for something they thought was odd --
their phones. An old, WE rotary desk set (white 500-series) and a WE
rotary wall (white 554) phone. The same Western Electric "Bell System
Property - Not For Sale" phones that were installed when built the
house 40 years ago and had used day in and day out. Down to the same
handset cords that had faithfully carried many hundreds of hours of
conversations -- the phones are at least twice as old as I am and is
still working flawlessly! (The wall phone was used likely hundreds of
times a week -- my grandmother is a teacher and has lots of friends,
family, and parents that she keeps in touch with).

When the 554 came off the wall for the first time in I don't know how
many years, a pristine, stainless steel jack was exposed, down to the
Bell System logo embossed in the lower right corner ... I had to resist
the urge to take that along too.

I remember back when my Grandparents had their 2nd line installed to
access the Internet my grandfather (a recently retired Civil Engineer)
reminisced about how it used to be so easy -- there was just one phone
company and they were responsible for everything, including the
phones.  If something didn't work, they couldn't blame it on your
wiring -- they knew exactly whose responsibility it was to fix the
problem.

He mentioned that when he was building their home he left one night
and the next day when he stopped by the house after his day job a
Pacific (Telegraph & Telephone Co? Bell? Telesis? ???) employee had
added a notation to the effect of "What about the phones?" on the
blueprints. He made the notations about jack locations on the prints,
did some work on the house and left. A short time later, the jacks
were installed in the locations that he noted by the local
BOC. Service was ordered, and the phones installed ... and not one
visit from the BOC until they had this 2nd line added roughly 35 years
later.

I was away from my computer on the 1st, but still wanted to take this
opportunity to "Pay my respects" on the 20th anniversary of the death
of the Bell System.

Lincoln

[BTW - Anyone happen to know why, with the exception of the wall jack
round jacks and boxes were used? I've always kind of wondered.]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 02:40:32 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AlchemyTV DVR / Digital Video Recorder For Your PowerMac


Featuring a high performance Philips tuner and full QuickTime support,
AlchemyTV DVR lets you watch TV in full screen mode on your PowerMac.

AlchemyTV DVR features a scheduled recording functionality allowing
you program the time and date for your recordings in a few easy
steps.Your favourite TV program will be recorded onto your hard drive
for later viewing or export to VCD or DVD.

http://www.miglia.com/products/video/alchemytvdvr/index.html

AlchemyTV DVR FAQ
http://www.miglia.com/Support/alchemytvdvr_faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:21:46 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Inc. Invites You to Join Its Conference Call and Webcast


     TiVo Inc. Invites You to Join Its Conference Call and Webcast
     from the 2004 International Consumer Electronics Show
     - Jan 5, 2004 08:00 AM (PR Newswire)
     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40121190

------------------------------

From: free$$$ <'free_money@cox.net>
Subject: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $71,000!!!
Reply-To: 'free_money@cox.net
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:34:40 -0700
Organization: Cox Communications


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have received this spam at least five
or six times in the past month or so. I have never yet seen the
so-called 'original item' in the papers or on televison or heard it
on the radio. However, it has obviously inspired some guys (no doubt
competing for the idiot-of-the-year award) to try the plan for them-
selves. In addition to the five or six times I have received this
proposition, I've had twice that many emails from the guys testing it
out. My comments inserted below as we read through this, and please
accept my apologies if you have also received this many times around.
PAT]


EARN EXTRA INCOME FROM HOME!

As seen on National Television..

PARENTS OF 15 YEAR OLD FIND $71,000 CASH HIDDEN IN HIS CLOSET !

You most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a major
nightly news program (USA).  And reported elsewhere in the world. His
mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when she came across a
large brown paper bag that was suspiciously buried beneath some
clothes and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old sons closet.

Nothing could have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened
the bag and found it was full of cash.  Five-dollar bills, twenties,
fifties and hundreds - all neatly rubber-banded in labeled piles.

"My first thought was that he had robbed a bank", says the 41-year-old
woman, "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag -- that's more than
my husband earns in a year".

[TEL Editor: My first thought would have been that he had taken a 
position as a Usenet group moderator and 'spammed his own newsgroup'
on a regular basis. Same as is accused of me, and everyone knows I
have bags of money neatly stacked and banded in my closet.  PAT]

The woman immediately called her husband at the car-dealership where
he worked to tell him what she had discovered. He came home right away
and they drove together to the boys school and picked him up. Little
did they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than
actually finding it in the closet.

As it turns out, the boy had been sending out, via E-mail, a type of
"Report" to E-mail addresses that he obtained off the
Internet. Everyday after school for the past 2 months, he had been
doing this right on his computer in his bedroom.

[Well I can think of other things guys do with bedroom computers.]

"I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck, I put my
name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out",
says the clever 15-year-old.

The E-mail letter listed 5 addresses and contained instructions to
send one $5 dollar bill to each person on the list, then delete the
address at the top and move the others addresses Down, and finally to
add your name to the top of the list.

The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand
dollars in five-dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter
with your name at the top of the 5-address list. "I get junk E-mail
all the time, and really did not think it was going to work", the boy
continues.

Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office
Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game magazine
subscriptions began to fill up with not magazines, but envelopes
containing $5 bills.

"About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and my
box had 1 magazine and about 300 envelops stuffed in it.  There was
also a yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office]
counter.

I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)". He goes on, "I went
up to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had
to ride back home and empty out my backpack because I could not carry
it all".

[Tel Ed: I'd be most reluctant to let the post office sorting room
clerks find out I was getting 'money in my box'; remind me to tell
you sometime about a charity in Chicago (Missionary Fathers) or a
US-based television evangelist with a box in Toronto, Ontario and
what happened to them when a postal clerk got wise to what they were
getting in the mail. PAT]

Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the
E-mail. "The money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and
stashing it in the closet, barely had time for my homework".  He had
also been riding his bike to several of the banks in his area and
exchanging the $5 bills for twenties, fifties and hundreds.

"I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to
different banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I
would usually tell the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent
me in to exchange the money and he was outside waiting for me. One
time the lady gave me a really strange look and told me that she would
not be able to do it for me and my dad would have to come in and do
it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)."

Surprisingly, the boy did not have any reason to be afraid. The
reporting news team examined and investigated the so-called
"chain-letter" the boy was sending out and found that it was not a
chain-letter at all. In fact, it was completely legal according to US
Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18,
Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations,
Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must
be exchanged for money received.

Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little note that
read, "Please send me report number XYX".  This simple note made the
letter legal because he was exchanging a service (A Report on how-to)
for a five-dollar fee.

ITS TRUE! THE TEENAGE BOY LEGITIMATELY EARNED $71,000. YOU SHOULD
PRINT THIS, READ IT AND FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS.  YOU TOO CAN
MAKE $71,000 AND MORE. IT IS WORKING SO WELL, MANY PEOPLE ARE ENTERING
THE PROGRAM FOR SECOND AND THIRD TIMES.  SOME ARE REPORTING THEY ARE
EARNING ENOUGH TO GIVE UP THEIR JOBS AND THEY ARE SPENDING JUST A FEW
HOURS A DAY SENDING OUT E-MAILS!

Dear Friend, You can earn $50,000 or more in next the 90 days sending
e-mail. Seem impossible? Read on for details; is there a catch; NO,
there is no catch, just send your emails and be on your way to
financial freedom.

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION with a whole segment on "20/20".

Thank you for your time and Interest. This is the letter you've been
reading about in the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter
on the Internet, a major nightly news program recently devoted an
entire show to the investigation of the program described below to
see, if it really can make people money.

===========================================
Dear Friends & Future Millionaires:
AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:
Make over half a million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an
investment of only $25 U.S. dollars expense - ONE TIME!! THANKS TO THE
COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!!
===========================================
BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!!

Before you say 'BULL', please read the following. This is the letter
you have been hearing about on the News lately.....the Oprah Winfrey
Show...etc.  Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a
national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the
investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can
make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the
program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there
are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program
and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to
make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE
RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT
IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER!

This is what one had to say:

''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times
before, but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined
just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and
money required. To my astonishment, I received a total of $610,470.00
in 21 weeks, with money still coming in!"

Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey.

===== PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ======

ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM!!

If you have any questions as to the legality of this program, contact
the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Bureau of
Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I mercifully deleted another 20 K of
text, i.e. all the names of the suckers who had bought into this
scheme; the names of all the 'valuable reports' you would receive
(worthless trash paper is more like it); how to go about manipulating
and editing the various names on your list, etc. Its all an old, old
story, which began back in the 1930's during the Great Depression, or
maybe before that ... of course in those days we did not have the
great miracle called 'computers' to store our lists of names and do
our mailing for us. Or, as the German Infomatics Society (IBM) said in
their 1990 convention in Stuttgart, "computers will change the way we
live for the better". Neil Postner replied in a message given at the
same convention, "We will inform ourselves to death is what will happen."

In twenty-plus years of this Digest -- something I should think would
be a *real report* of value -- I have yet to come anywhere close to
making what this alleged fifteen year old boy allegedly made in one
month with his pseudo-reports. I gave you all a vacation holiday from
my usual end-of-the-month spam, but will resume it later in January.

Here's to a happy, prosperous and spam-free (dream on!) New Year.  PAT]

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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP (P Lane)
    FCC vs. fax.com, Again (Danny Burstein)
    "Wireless and Internet Phones Not Yet Reliable For 911 (The Old Bear)
    Is 'Next Year' Finally Here for Wireless Technology? (Joseph)
    TiVo Says EchoStar Infringed on DVR Patents (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo Files Patent Infringement Suit Against EchoStar (Monty Solomon)
    iTunes DRM Cracked Wide Open for GNU/Linux. Seriously. (Monty Solomon)
    Gadget Sales to U.S. Consumers Seen Growing 5 Percent (Monty Solomon)
    Holidays Helped Drive 2003 Web Sales Higher - Reports (Monty Solomon)
    Pop-up Seller Loses Round in Court (Monty Solomon)
    Cable Wiring Seen as Key to the Digital Home (Monty Solomon)
    Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well (Craig Partridge)
    Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well (Mark Crispin)
    San Diego Startup Stars In Mobile Video Market (Eric Friedebach)
    Re: How Are Cellphone 911 Calls Handled? (W Randolph Franklin)
    Re: Forget Your Bank Balance? It's Available on the Internet (Franklin)
    Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great? (Clarence Dold)
    Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, Back on 1-Jan-1984 (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $71,000!!! (Paul Vader)
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From: paul_lane@supplyworks.com (P Lane)
Subject: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP
Date: 5 Jan 2004 13:39:41 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I thinking of signing up for a test drive of Vonage VoIP. My current
setup is a cable modem to the outside interface of a PIX 501. The
inside interface is plugged into an 8 port hub. I have 2 servers and a
Linksys AP plugged into hub.

My questions are will the ATA work on my setup? Do I need to open up
ports for it on the PIX? Any documentation on setting this up?

Thanks,

Paul Lane

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I honestly do not know. I *think* as
long as the ATA can see the world and the Vonage people can see the
Linksys, it should work okay. I'll recuse from any further answers on
this, since I do supply anyone who asks for it with a test drive
e-coupon for a month of free service on Vonage. In my case I plugged
the ATA directly into a Linksys port (.100 as a matter of fact) and
it worked fine. Your PIX-501 confuses me, however.  'Documentation'
basically consists of just this: plug a phone into the modular jack
on the back of the ATA; then plug the ATA into your internet
connection. A few seconds later, Vonage sees it out there, blinks a
little red light at you, and you are connected to make/recieve calls. 
Someone who knows about PIX-501 can answer that part better.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: FCC vs. fax.com, Again
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:17:26 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


FCC FINES FAX.COM OVER $5 MILLION FOR SENDING "JUNK FAXES".  The
Commission imposed a forfeiture of $5,379,000 against Fax.com, Inc.,
for willful and repeated violations of the Commission's Rules and the
TCPA.  News Release. News Media Contact: Suzanne.Tetreault@fcc.gov EB.

Contact Suzanne Tetreault at (202) 418-7450 and Kurt Schroeder at
(202) 418-7320, TTY: 1 (888) 835-5322

<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242654A1.doc>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242654A2.doc>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242654A1.pdf>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242654A2.pdf>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242654A1.txt>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242654A2.txt>

 FAX.COM, INC., APPARENT LIABILITY FOR FORFEITURE.  Assessed a
monetary forfeiture of $5,379,000 against Fax.com, Inc. for willfull
and repeated violations of the Communications Act and the Commission's
rules and orders concerning the TCPA. Action by: the
Commission. Adopted: 12/31/2003 by Forfeiture Order. (FCC No. 04-2).
EB

<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-2A1.doc>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-2A1.pdf>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-04-2A1.txt>

danny " did my bit in forwarding some over, which is almost as
	good a feeling as getting the $500 would be  " burstein

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:12:53 -0500
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: "Wireless and Internet Phones not Yet Reliable For 911


As summarized in NewsScan for January 5, 2004:

   WIRELESS AND INTERNET PHONES NOT YET RELIABLE FOR 911 SERVICE

   Consumer advocates are concerned that people don't realize that
   when they replace their traditional wired phones with cellular
   or Internet services they may be losing reliable 911 access. For
   example, most Internet phone companies offer no 911 service at
   all.

   Surveys suggest that 18% of the country's wireless phone owners
   use them as their primary phone, and that perhaps 5% of cellphone
   users have given up their wired phones.

   Regina Costa of The Utility Reform Network says: "I think people
   are crazy to rely on a wireless phone to contact authorities in
   an emergency. Sure, it can be very handy. But I wouldn't want to
   bet my life on it."

   On the other hand, Ravi Sakaria, president of a New Jersey Internet
   phone service provider, is confident the problem will be solved in
   due course: "It will happen because as the number of customers grow,
   it will become a bigger obstacle to the industry."

   source: San Jose Mercury News (2 Jan 2004)
   http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/7619455.htm

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Again, talking about Vonage for a minute.
When I got my Vonage account several months ago, the Vonage people
stressed to me that I should register my '911 service' with them as
soon as possible. If you travel around a lot, and take the ATA with 
you, then you are correct, it is not yet perfected. But as soon as I
gave them my street address, it went on the 911 PSAP records that way.
I got back email a few days later confirming that my address had been
registered, and the same day I got a letter from the City of Independence
telling me they had also recorded my street address for public safety
purposes based on the request from Vonage. However, I have never moved
anywhere or had the box out of service, except to reboot it a couple
of times. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Is 'Next Year' Finally Here For Wireless Technology?
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 11:20:23 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


By Jon Fortt
Knight Ridder Newspapers

Mike McCamon is clearly frustrated, but he's doing well at holding it
together. He is Mr. Bluetooth.

That's Bluetooth, the wireless technology. You might have heard of it
 -- the cable-replacement miracle that was supposed to clear the
clutter around your personal computer, banish the annoying wire from
your cellphone headset and "cure the common cold," as McCamon wryly
put it.

McCamon is executive director of the Bluetooth Special Interest Group,
an outfit based in Kansas whose mission is to perfect and promote the
technical standard. He is wise not to make promises. Like most
everything else technology-related, Bluetooth got over-hyped during
the late '90s. Bluetooth boosters from companies long bankrupt kept
promising it would be everywhere "next year."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2001829652_bluetooth05.html

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:58:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Says EchoStar Infringed on DVR Patents


NEW YORK, Jan 5 (Reuters) - Television recording technology company
TiVo Inc.(NASDAQ:TIVO) on Monday said it has filed a patent
infringement suit against satellite TV provider EchoStar
Communications Corp.(NASDAQ:DISH), related to digital video recorders
(DVR).

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40124166

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:59:32 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Files Patent Infringement Suit Against EchoStar


SAN JOSE, Calif., Jan. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc.  (Nasdaq:
TIVO) today filed a patent infringement suit against EchoStar
Communications Corporation in federal district court in Texas alleging
the satellite television service provider is violating claims of
U.S. Patent No.  6,233,389 issued to TiVo in May 2001, known as the
"Time Warp" patent. Key TiVo inventions protected by the Time Warp
patent include a method for recording one program while playing back
another, watching a program as it is recording, and a storage format
that supports advanced TrickPlay(TM) capabilities (i.e. pausing live
television broadcast, fast-forwarding, rewinding, instant replays, and
slow motion).

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40124132

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:26:46 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: iTunes DRM Cracked Wide Open For GNU/Linux. Seriously.


By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco

Exclusive Norwegian programmer Jon Lech Johansen, who broke the DVD
encryption scheme, has opened iTunes locked music a tad further, by
allowing people to play songs they've purchased on iTunes Music Store
on their GNU/Linux computers.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34712.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:33:45 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Gadget Sales to U.S. Consumers Seen Growing 5 Percent


By Eric Auchard

NEW YORK, Jan 5 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer electronics sales are set to
pickup this year following a lackluster 2003, when gadgets ranging
from camera phones to crystal-clear TVs failed to offset declines in
audio and car electronics sales.

The Consumer Electronics Association of Washington, D.C. on Monday
forecast that the wholesale electronics market in 2004 is likely to
grow to $100.99 billion, up 5 percent over 2003, rebounding from three
years of negative or minimal growth.

The U.S. trade group representing audio, video and mobile electronics
makers projected 2003 sales would total $96.35 billion, up 2.3 percent
over the downward revised sales estimate of $94.17 billion reported in
2002.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40125612

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:34:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Holidays Helped Drive 2003 Web Sales Higher - Reports


By Lisa Baertlein

SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 5 (Reuters) - Online holiday shoppers spent 35
percent more in 2003, helping to ring up the biggest year yet for Web
sales, according to a new report issued on Monday.

During the 2003 holiday season, Web shoppers parted with a record
$18.5 billion, excluding travel, compared with $13.7 billion in the
year-earlier period, Goldman, Sachs & Co. (NYSE:GS), Harris
Interactive and Nielsen/NetRatings said in their latest eSpending
Report.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40125694

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:52:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Pop-up Seller Loses Round in Court


By Stefanie Olsen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

A U.S. district court judge recently barred WhenU from delivering
pop-up advertisements to some Net visitors, going against decisions in
favor of the software maker's controversial ad tactics.

In late December, as part of a lawsuit filed against WhenU by
1-800-Contacts, the United States District Court for the Southern
District of New York granted a preliminary injunction that prohibits
WhenU from triggering pop-ups when people visit 1-800-Contacts' Web
site. In the past, WhenU delivered pop-up ads that promoted rivals of
1-800-Contacts, including another defendant, Vision Direct. In issuing
the injunction, the judge said the practice constitutes trademark
infringement and violates the Lanham Act, the U.S.  trademark act.

http://news.com.com/2100-1024-5135313.html

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:58:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cable Wiring Seen as Key to the Digital Home


By Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

A group of vendors and service providers have banded together to help
promote technology that would enable homeowners to use existing cable
to link their household appliances into a single network.

The Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA) plans to formally announce
its formation Wednesday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
Vegas. Founding members include networking giant Cisco Systems, cable
provider Comcast, satellite provider EchoStar Communications,
chipmaker Entropic Communications, retailer RadioShack and consumer
electronics makers Panasonic, Motorola and Toshiba.

The purpose of the alliance is to develop standards and promote the
use of coaxial cable to send high-quality video, voice and data
between a variety of household devices, such as TVs, digital video
recorders and PCs. Coax cable is already deployed in millions of U.S.
households, providing customers with cable television and, in some
cases, broadband Internet access.

One of the most important tasks of the alliance is to develop a set of
standards so that consumers can easily link devices from several
different vendors.

http://news.com.com/2100-1034-5135390.html

------------------------------

From: Craig Partridge <craigp@TheWorld.com>
Subject: Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:17:15 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989


Ronda Hauben <ronda@panix.com> writes:

>> Nope.  The ARPANET consisted entirely of IMPs and TIPs, which were
>> built from Honeywell 316 minis and later BBN's own C/30s which ran the
>> IMP code after Honeywell stopped making the 316 and the occasional
>> experimental machine like the multiprocessor Pluribus IMP.

> Are you claiming that the ARPANET was the IMP subnetwork?  And that
> the Hosts were something different?

That is a very accurate description of the ARPANET.

Craig

------------------------------

From: Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:40:29 -0800
Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing


On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Ronda Hauben wrote:

> Are you saying that the ARPANET is the same as the IMP subnetwork
> of the ARPANET? The whole point of the IMP subnetwork is to connect
> diverse computers and diverse operating systems. The ARPANET is the
> connection of these diverse computers and operating systems. It isn't
> the IMP subnetwork. The IMP subnetwork is the means of connecting the
> diverse computers, but is *not* the ARPANET.

Ronda, were you a user of the ARPAnet in its halcyon days (1970-1982)?

I was.  I implemented the first 96-bit leader (32-bit address) ARPAnet
NCP for the PDP-10 in 1978.  I was very much part of the TCP/IP
transition in 1983, and the subsequent ARPAnet/Milnet split.  I wrote
some of the earliest implementations of Telnet and SMTP.  I even wrote
an EGP.

I have never heard the term "IMP subnetwork" used.  Nor have I ever
heard of this strange case which you seem to be making.

The notion that the wires of an LH or DH connection are part of a
"network" is rather, uh, strange to anyone who actually dealt with it
on an electrical basis.  A better case may be made for a VDH
interface, but that in turn was more of a point-to-point network.

So is the notion that the hosts on the ARPAnet were part of the
network.  It's akin to saying that a human user of a telephone is
"part of the telephone network."

The notion that the only important difference between ARPAnet and
Internet is that "Internet made it possible to connect different
networks, not just different computers" is laughable to anyone who was
actually there.

In conclusion, I will echo John Levine:

> These facts are well known and easily checked by anyone who cares to
> do so, and you only make yourself look foolish by trying to argue
> that the situation was and is otherwise.

> I have no interest in arguing about facts, so this is my last
> message on this topic.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: San Diego Startup Stars In Mobile Video Market
Date: 5 Jan 2004 15:39:09 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Jennifer Davies, 01.05.04, Forbes.com 

Jim Brailean, chief executive of San Diego's PacketVideo, says he's
developed a thick skin.

He's had to. His predictions about the coming of video on mobile
devices has had more stops and starts than rush hour traffic at the
Interstates 5 and 805 merge.

During the height of the New Economy hype, Brailean founded
PacketVideo to provide technology for mobile video, which allows users
to record, view and transmit video clips on wireless devices.

The company raised about $40 million and filed for an initial public
offering in 2000. But as the tech economy swooned, PacketVideo
canceled its stock offering and raised money from private sources. In
early 2001, the company said it had brought in $100 million from such
industry giants as Texas Instruments , Motorola and Qualcomm.

But even with its substantial war chest, PacketVideo was unable to
outlast the turmoil in the wireless telecommunications market. It was
forced to cut costs and restructure itself in August 2002.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/05/105mobilevideopinnacor_ii.html

Eric Friedebach
/It's a Hockey Night in Minnesota!/

------------------------------

Subject: Re: How Are Cellphone 911 Calls Handled?
From: W Randolph Franklin <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.edoocyashunaldomane>
Reply-To: W Randolph Franklin <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.edoocyashunaldomane>
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:32:39 GMT


According to Steven J Sobol  <sjsobol@JustThe.net>:

> W Randolph Franklin
  <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.usual-university-domain> wrote:

>> me: "Can't you get that from the ANI?"

>> 3rd 911 person: "Not from a cellphone."

> Of course they can't get your location from a cellphone. :)

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not think she asked the man where
> he was located ... she asked him *what his number was*.   PAT

Correct, they wanted my phone number.  I'd already told them the
accident location, 3 times.  However, the Troy NY police did respond
quite fast.

(FYI, a drunk driver turned left as a light was changing.  Unlike many
other drivers who go thru this intersection on red, he didn't make it,
was hit, and spun within 10 feet of me.)


Wm Randolph Franklin
wrf@ecse.rpi.edoocyashunaldomane 
(Plaintext preferred; attachments deprecated)
http://www.ecse.rpi.edoocyashunaldomane/Homepages/wrf/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Its good to hear of a DUI motorist
getting what he deserved instead of some poor innocent guy being 
the victim. Or was there an innocent victim as well? Back to reliance
on cellular phones (or any portable phone with a fixed number such
as Vonage:  I used my cellular phone to call police once a year ago
at Christmas when I was with my Salvation Army kettle in front of
Marvins Supermarket. A woman pulled into the Marvin's parking lot
and went in the store. A few minutes later, a man pulling out of
Marvins with his groceries backed into her car. I got his license
plate when he chose to drive away hoping not to get caught. 

When the woman came out of Marvins a few minutes later she saw the
damage to her car. I volunteered to call the police for her, but I
did not call 911 -- instead I dialed 332-1700 which is the City of
Independence Police administrative number. (No matter, really, since
the same person answers 911 and also the 1700 line.) I asked if she
would have an officer come by Marvins and see this lady. The police
dispatchers are very well trained here. She knew exactly where Marvins
is located (10th and Myrtle Streets). I think they know every street
and almost every house number in town. The officer showed up a minute
or two later; the lady was quite annoyed that the 'coward' had hit her
car then driven off. I gave the officer the license plate number; it
seems the guy's street address was about four or five blocks away. The
officer got the guy's phone number and called him on the phone. The
conversation went like this:  "You get your ass back over here to
Marvins and take care of this! I don't think you really want for me
to have to drive over to your house! Imagine what would happen then!"
Sure enough, about five minutes later the guy came back over, very 
sheepish looking, gave his name and address to the lady whose car
he had banged, as the officer looked on. 

I know this would not work in a larger city or on a highway, etc but
in a small town like ours, if the person can see any sort of street
sign at all, or any 'landmark' or store; i.e. Walmart, Marvins, the
doctor's office building, the library, the high school, the college, 
etc the dispatcher knows exactly where he is, cellular or landline phone,
or even Vonage phone. PAT] 

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Forget Your Bank Balance? It's Available on the Internet
From: W Randolph Franklin <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.educationaldomain>
Reply-To: W Randolph Franklin <wrf+usenet1102@ecse.rpi.educationaldomain>
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:26:44 GMT


This isn't really new to the internet.  Banks have provided a balance
verification service to merchants for decades.  If you call a bank and
type in a checking account number and a dollar amount, the service
will tell you if that account's balance is at least that large.  It's
all automated, no social engineering required.  There are also no
messy formalities about proving that you are verifying a real check.
Quite a nice simple user interface.

IIRC, no bank that I've ever used has bothered to mention this service
to me.  However, IMHO they will disable it when asked.

Wm Randolph Franklin
wrf@ecse.rpi.educationaldomain (Plaintext preferred; attachments deprecated)
http://www.ecse.rpi.educationaldomain/Homepages/wrf/

------------------------------

From: dold@IsXTiVoXRe.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great?
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:47:40 +0000
Organization: a2i network


Rob <rob51166@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I remember TiVo being advertised over here in the UK several years
> ago, but it never took off. In fact, I'd say it died a death.  I put

I certainly see more posts in alt.video.ptv.tivo from the UK than I
would expect from a dead product.

Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Jeff nor Lisa)
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984
Date: 5 Jan 2004 12:39:35 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com> wrote: 
 
> The "discontinuance of the rental policy" was not an economic decision
> by the telcos.  Telephone rentals were a cash cow, pure gravy.  They
> would never have discontinued them if it was up to them, and they
> opposed the end of phone rentals vigorously.

I wish I could recall where I read a telco manager's observation that
cost of having a fleet of service trucks and crews to go out and
service the rented sets was starting to become uneconomical.
Undoubtedly the FCC policies you quoted played a part.
 
> Consumers unquestionably benefited from long-distance competition.
> If there had not been an MCI or a Sprint, you'd still be paying $1
> or more per minute for a long-distance call, in 1975 dollars.  Now,
> long-distance is practically free.

I don't agree.  Right up until divesture AT&T was lowering its long
distance rates because of technology improvements.  Those improvements
would have continued to drive the rates downward.

Of course, not all LD rates went down.  Some have skyrocketed, such as
LD calls from coin phones or 3rd number billing.  (Sorry, but when I
was at the hospital unexpectedly due to medical emergencies, I didn't
have the proper 'calling card' special phone number.)  LD D/A is no
longer free.  Operator assistance is hard to get or charged for a high
amounts.

Remember too, local service costs went up at the same time.
Administrative and interconnect costs went up, too.  From the
consumer's point of view, the monthly phone bill didn't go down.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: From the consumer's point of view, the
overall bill which had to be paid each month went *up*, considerably.
The phone company quit the system of long distance subsidizing local
service.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $71,000!!!
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:40:40 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


'free_money@cox.net writes:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have received this spam at least five
> or six times in the past month or so.]

Is that all? This isn't a new one -- though it shows some effort to
deal with past 'giggle test' parts of it. For example, the kid has his
own PO box now, to explain how the parents didn't discover more than
14,000 envelopes coming to the house, and there's a note about him
having no time to do homework -- it would take 20 hours continuous
work, at five seconds per (I don't know about you, but I can't go that
fast) to open all those envelopes, and your profit might get wiped out
from paper cuts!

But still, this one part always boggles me:

> chain-letter at all. In fact, it was completely legal according to US
> Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18,
> Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations,
> Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must
> be exchanged for money received.

Those references are correct, and there is indeed that last sentence
in them.  But if you read the rest of the law, which you're bound to
do if you've bothered to look it up, you know the 'reports' figleaf
will not work. I understand that the postmaster general just *loves*
to get copies of chain letters that mention this, because it makes
proving fraud fairly trivial.  You might claim ignorance of a law and
get leniency, but when a cite to the law is right in your pitch,
documenting that what you're doing is illegal ...

> [Tel Ed: I'd be most reluctant to let the post office sorting room
> clerks find out I was getting 'money in my box'; remind me to tell
> you sometime about a charity in Chicago (Missionary Fathers) or a
> US-based television evangelist with a box in Toronto, Ontario and
> what happened to them when a postal clerk got wise to what they were
> getting in the mail. PAT]

This member of the audience is always up for one of your stories, but I
think I know how this one ends -- with fines bigger than the money in the
envelopes, right? *

* PV   something like badgers -- something like lizards -- and something
       like corkscrews.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I forgot how much Jimmy Swaggart got
ripped for when the postal clerk in Toronto took a liking to
Swaggart's Canadian post office box. I think it was around a million 
dollars. On the other hand, the Missionary Fathers had a box at the
same post office in Chicago I used to go to. The evening shift super-
visor and the three employees who got caught with their hands in the
till there got away with about 150 thousand dollars in cash donations.
I remember that incident well. I used to go into the downtown post
office box area (zips 60690 through 60699 [all just 'paper zip codes'
used for sorting purposes, no physical location for those zip codes])
to pick up my mail late at night, several nights per week, and got
aquainted on a first name basis with the counter clerks there.

I went in one night to get my mail, none of the regular clerks were
there except one lady I knew. "Where is Joe tonight, or Amanda?" 
Amanda was the supervisor at night. "Oh," said Jean, sort of giggling.
"I guess you did not hear that the postal inspectors came in last
night and cleaned the whole place out. They caught her and Joe on
hidden videotape; she was getting into the (metal holding) tray for
Missionary Fathers, and taking a huge handful of envelopes with her
then going into the ladies restroom. When she would come out a few
minutes later she had none of the envelopes. Then Joe would take a
handful of envelopes and disappear into the men's room the same way.
And there were two other workers in the sorting room caught doing the
same thing. Postal inspectors came in last night about 10 PM, played 
the video tapes for the entire staff to watch, then asked 'if anyone
wants to make confessions, it will go easier on you'. No one would
confess until those videos were played showing Amanda and Joe going
into the stalls, sitting there and ripping open envelopes, pocketing
the cash and flushing the checks and prayer requests, etc down the
toilets. The silence was deafening and those four workers were fired
on the spot."  (I am sure federal indictments followed soon  therefter.)

Missionary Fathers is that bunch (who under various names) send out
the pictures of the pitiful little children who have sent you their
cheesy Christmas gift: often times pencils, or mailing address labels
or sometimes a crappy string of beads, etc. And wouldn't you like to
send a Christmas gift by return mail to these children to show them
how much you care about their welfare? A few dollars or whatever God
puts on your heart to spare will go to the Crappy Pitiful Children's
School where we see that they get at least one square meal each day
and a new pair of overalls to wear. Always real tear-jerking letters
and pictures designed to tug at your heart strings. If its not Christmas
then maybe its Fourth of July. Always a sad story, always a free
gift because the indigent children love you so much. $150 thousand
is all Joe and Amanda would 'fess up to; their take and the others in
on it was *much more*. 

It was so bad that the one bunch of crooks (Missionary Fathers)
finally decided to abandon their post office box and moved it out to
one of the suburbs when the second bunch of crooks (postal employees)
took them so badly. PAT]
 
------------------------------

Subject: Spam Origins
From: Marise_A_Klapka@NDGSTP.COM
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:07:38 -0600


I recently saw this article in my monthly e-newsletter from CyberAtlas
and thought it might be of interest.  If you choose to pose, please
withhold my name/e-mail address.  Thanks.


          U.S. Named as Biggest Spammer, Spammee

By Robyn Greenspan

The United States may not have to look past its own backyard to
enforce the Anti-Spam bill the president is expected to sign by
2004. The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD)
2003 e-commerce and development report identifies the U.S. as the top
perpetrator, responsible for more than half of the spam received in
the world.

|-------------------------------|
|   Spam Origins, March 2003    |
|-------------------------------|
|United States58.4%             |
|-------------------------------|
|China5.6%                      |
|-------------------------------|
|United Kingdom5.2%             |
|-------------------------------|
|Brazil4.9%                     |
|-------------------------------|
|Canada4.1%                     |
|-------------------------------|
|Others21.8%                    |
|-------------------------------|
|Source: UNCTAD                 |
|-------------------------------|

The majority of spam victims are in the U.S. as well, the report
finds, and David Schatsky, senior vice president of research, Jupiter
Research (a unit of this site's corporate parent) says simply, "That's
where the money is."  Schatsky explains that the U.S. is the largest
marketplace in the world, making it an attractive target.

http://cyberatlas.internet.com/big_picture/geographics/article/0,,5911_3113611,00.html

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Does that 58.4 percent of all spam sent
out include that snotty, bratty little 15 year old boy with the 71,000
dollars hidden away in his closet?    PAT]

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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Coax Chipset Enables Home Net Backbones (Monty Solomon)
    ATI Spins Digital TV Tuner/Decoder chip (Monty Solomon)
    Siemens Gigabit 2420/8825 Voicemail Quesstion (Steve Fitzgerald)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Earle Robinson)
    New Videophone Hailed As Breakthrough For The Deaf (Eric Friedebach)
    Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984 (John Levine)
    Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984 (Kilo Sierra)
    Re: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
    Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great? (Rob)
    Re: Then Benjamin Franklin Must be a Terrorist Too? (Michael Chance)
    Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $71,000 (Charles Cryderman)

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 23:34:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Coax Chipset Enables Home Net Backbones


By Robert Keenan
EE Times

Wayne, N.J. - A chip set from startup Entropic Communications lets 
end users turn their coaxial connections into a backbone network in 
the home.

Wireless connections -- mostly wireless-LAN links --are quickly
becoming the de facto approach for distributing broadband connections
and multimedia content from a router to a node, such as a laptop. But
Wi-Fi systems struggle to penetrate some walls and thus fall short in
providing total coverage in a home. That coverage issue will loom
larger as end users start to distribute HDTV connections over Wi-Fi
channels.

To help solve the problem, equipment vendors have considered
establishing a backbone network in the home. With the EN1010 RF
front-end IC and the EN2010 baseband controller IC, Entropic (San
Diego) gives equipment vendors a way to tap into coaxial connections
and establish a backbone that can deliver a peak performance of 270
Mbits/second and real throughput of better than 100 Mbits/s.

http://www.commsdesign.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17200154

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 00:58:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ATI Spins Digital TV Tuner/Decoder Chip


By Junko Yoshida
EE Times

PARIS - ATI Technologies Inc. is rolling out a digital TV chip that
integrates front-end digital terrestrial and cable demodulators and a
back-end high-definition MPEG-2 decoder. The X210VC "DTV-on-chip" will
give ATI "at least a two-year jump" on DTV silicon competitors, said
director of marketing Mike Gittings.

While many semiconductor companies continue to sit on the fence or
have given up on the U.S. terrestrial DTV market, consumer electronics
suppliers are scrambling to meet the Federal Communications
Commission's digital tuner mandate, which requires TV makers to equip
at least 50 percent of their 36-inch and larger TVs with a terrestrial
digital TV tuner/decoder by July 1 (see story, page 18).

http://www.eet.com/semi/news/OEG20040105S0040

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From: sf@mnetsys.com (Steve Fitzgerald)
Subject: Siemens Gigabit 2420/8825 Voicemail Question
Date: 6 Jan 2004 04:22:56 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Does anyone know if on the 2420 or 8825 it is possible to disable the
answering machine on only one of the lines? I have two lines and only
want the answering machine to answer one of the them. The other line
has dedicated voicemail service off-site.

Thanks.

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From: Earle Robinson <Address Withheld at User's Request>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:58:41 +0100


(Please mask my email address. Thank you.)

Mr. Cuccia and others have replied extensively to my messages. Rather
than using quote backs, I'll attempt to address the major points
raised.

You say that the USA is the leader for technology, etc. Yes, that is
true, but the brains behind much of this come from Europeans and, more
recently, Asians.  Andy Grove is Hungarian, as was von
Neumann. American rocket technology was brought by von Braun from
Germany after the 2nd World War.

The nuclear research was mostly done by men from Europe, too. Turing
was English, the diesel engine was invented in Germany, movies in
France, and the only commercial supersonic aircraft was created by the
French and the English.  I can travel from Paris to London in a couple
of hours at over 200mph, down to Marseille in a few hours, too.  Radar
and the decryption of German code were done in England.  I could go on
and on.

You speak of how the American phone system already had 7 digits from
the 40s on. Well, yes in cities like New York. But, I was growing up
in Greenwich Connecticut where our phone number was Greenwich 102.
Given the many small non-bell companies and the fact that different
bell subsidiaries used differing technologies the American system was
far from that good. Granted it was much better than in Europe. But,
Europe had gone through 2 devastating wars, bombed and the scene of so
many battles.  I well remember how awful the telephone systems here
were until action was taken beginning in the late 1960s through the
1970s.

Today, overall the systems here are often better than what is in the
states.

I also recall how awful phone service was in west Los Angeles in the
late 70s and into the 80s (also mentioned by another writer in a
message here the other day). We were served (an oxymoron) by General
Telephone.  It was virtually impossible to obtain a reliable
connection to CompuServe, whose nodes were in PacBell territory only a
few miles away. Even today many Americans have problems with dialup
connections. Further, ISDN was never developed as it was here in
Europe.  Cell phones?  Here in Europe we are approaching 90% market
penetration everywhere.  Not so in the states.

Here in France if I dial a number, and there is no call waiting on
that line, I get a busy signal, just as in the states. But, all I need
do is to punch the 5 on the touch pad and hang up. When my
correspondent hangs up my number rings, I pick up the phone and the
phone is ringing at the other end.  No extra charge, no monthly
fee. It's free. Interested in ADSL?  All I need do is provide my phone
number and address on a web page and I am told how many meters I am
from the central office and told I qualify because it is 473
meters. If I prefer a phone company other than France telecom I can
choose from 6 or 7. Try that in the states!

If you are in NYC you have Verizon , if in Miami Bell South. No
choice.  ADSL?  I have a choice among nearly 10 ISP's. And, often
quite cheap. Though I now have cable access I could sign up with one
ISP which offers not only 2048/256 internet service, but VOIP phone
(and phone number) with free phone calls within France and unbeatable
rates for international calls, e.g. 3 cents to call the states, plus
up to 100 television channels, too.  All this for $35 per month and
using that copper pair.

You point out that the national phone systems were a hodge podge in
the past. Yes, this was true. But, not today.  There was a change in
numbers several years ago here in France, to 10 digit dialing.  Since
this allows up to nearly 500 million phone numbers it is clear that
with a population of 60 million France is covered for many years. The
UK, alas, made a bollocks of things, so that they have had to endure 3
or 4 different changes in the past 10 years or so until they got it
right. But, in other countries it was done correctly.

I stand corrected as concerns the maximum number of digits mandated by
the itu. But, this could be readily extended, as it was when it went
from 12 to 15.  The American system seems so cumbersome in comparison.
While I can merely replace the first digit to use one of the major
alternate carriers, in the states I'd have to dial several digits to
do this. We also have features, like the handling if a busy signal
that I already mentioned, which you don't have. For example, I can add
other data to my directory listing using the internet, to provide the
names of other people who use my number, email addresses and other
numbers, too. Cellular phone numbers will be listed shortly, though
one may opt out if one wishes.  Call blocking here may be done on an
individual basis or globally. Naturally, there is an emergency number,
112, valid everywhere in Europe. But there is also an emergency number
for abused women to call, too.
 
Finally, to address your vaunted 7 digit dialing. Well it ain't so in
many places any more. In Miami you have to dial 10 digits to call a
local number and I think it is the same in NYC, too. Given this, many
people are confused between long distance dialing, 11 digits (1 digit
more than here in Europe) and local calling. With our 10 digit dialing
norm there is no confusion.

Earle Robinson

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: New Videophone Hailed As Breakthrough For The Deaf
Date: 6 Jan 2004 09:18:33 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Thomas J. Fitzgerald, 01.05.04, Forbes.com 

The spread of high-speed Internet access and the increasing
sophistication of videoconferencing tools have given the deaf broad
new access to a simple pleasure that most people take for granted:
chatting on the telephone. New products and services promise to
liberate the deaf from the slow text-based telecommunications systems
that have been their primary option for decades.

One offering, a videophone and relay service introduced by Sorenson
Media, enables users to sign with each other or with banks of
interpreters who translate live phone conversations between the deaf
and those who hear.

The Sorenson videophone is a breakthrough, said Genie Gertz, an
assistant professor of deaf studies at California State University at
Northridge, because it enables the deaf to use what many consider to
be their native language American Sign Language with unprecedented
simplicity and clarity. This is a gigantic step for the deaf
community, Gertz, who is deaf, said through an interpreter.

The Sorenson VP-100 is a stand-alone videophone that works with a
television and broadband Internet connection. It has a remote control
and a flashing light that can be used instead of a ringer to signal
incoming calls. Users can sign directly with another deaf person or
with a Sorenson interpreter. Because of the high quality of the video,
the interpreter can read the deaf user's signing while simultaneously
translating and speaking to the telephone user, and vice versa.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/05/105videophonepinnacor_ii.html

Eric Friedebach
/Mortgage your Viagra!/

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jan 2004 07:18:56 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Of course, not all LD rates went down.  Some have skyrocketed, such as
> LD calls from coin phones or 3rd number billing.

Payphone operators finally seem to have figured out that if you don't
totally rip people off, they might use your service.  I see a lot of
payphones that offer long distance anywhere in the country for 25
cents/minute with a three or four minute minumum.  That's not exactly
cheap, but it's back down in the range where if you want to call
someone, you'd be inclined to dump in the quarters rather than go to
extraordinary lengths to avoid using the phone.  I've seen phones in
NYC with stickers offering similar international rates, 25 cents/min
to most of Europe and plausible rates to other countries.

Those of us old enough to remember the Bell system will remember that
calls across the country cost 25 cents/min back when a quarter could
still buy two or three candy bars.

> Remember too, local service costs went up at the same time.
> Administrative and interconnect costs went up, too.  From the
> consumer's point of view, the monthly phone bill didn't go down.

It's true, if you don't make a lot of toll calls, your bill has gone
up, although I haven't seen overall numbers comparing monthly rates
(the real ones, with all of the fee and tax junk added on) to
inflation.  If I had to guess, I'd guess that the cost of local
service in constant dollars is about the same as it was 20 or 30 years
ago, but long distance, particularly international, is much cheaper.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

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From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 06 Jan 2004 09:16:11 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


> Remember too, local service costs went up at the same time.
> Administrative and interconnect costs went up, too.  From the
> consumer's point of view, the monthly phone bill didn't go down.

Indeed. In 1982 I got my own phone line. I was all of 16 at the time
and had my first modem so I was always tying the line up.

I had a job so my father had them hook the line up, and every month I
paid the bill in cash.

I paid a total of $12 a month. That included the phone rental (A red
2500 set of course!) and the Touch-Tone surcharge and taxes.

Now the line charge alone is $17.26, then add in the damned fees and
taxes and it come out close to $30.

That's what is killing any savings. The phone companies and the
government saw a golden opportunity to rape and pilage as usual and we
end up footing the bill.

Know what? Universal Service charges should have gone away a long time
ago. If people want to move out to the burbs and rural areas let them
pay to have the lines strung. Nail the damned contractors that are
building up the suburbs and rural areas -- and also screwing the cities
at the same time.

But the main culprit here is plain old corporate dominance. I do wish
that some day we get an administration willing to put the corpo-military
complex in their place.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting how you mention your very
own first telephone. I first got subscribed under my own name back in
1960, when I moved out from living with Mommie Dearest to my own
little place in Hyde Park (the U of C neighborhood on the south side
of Chicago.) The monthly bill was around six or seven dollars and my
roomate and I agreed to split the bill but each be responsible for 
our own long distance charges and or telegrams which were sent by
phone. Illinois Bell did not ask for deposits, or run credit checks,
etc. You simply called them one day and they came out the next day to
put the phone in. They trusted you to pay the bill when it arrived.
We decided on a green 'palmolive' color rotary dial phone and since
we lived in an apartment-hotel with a switchboard the phone man put in
a phone with a turn-button: one side of the turn button was the switch-
board phone (DOrchester 3-7500), the other side of the turn button 
was our private phone (HYDe Park 3-3714). We did have a bell-chime
device to ring the phone (it sounded like a doorbell) and we had to
pay fifty-cents per month for that side ringer. Touch tone was not
available.  ESS features were still ten years distant for the
downtown Chicago area and fifteen years distant for the other areas of
Chicago.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 06 Jan 2004 09:21:55 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP


> My questions are will the ATA work on my setup? Do I need to open up
> ports for it on the PIX? Any documentation on setting this up?

You may have to open a port or two. The folks at Vonage should be able
to help you with it.

I have not yet tried Vonage but I run a Netgear FVS318 which is a
router/firewall/vpn device and has 8 ports. I use a total of four -- I
like having the expansion option available to me.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's why I have two 'root USB hubs'
on my main computer with a powered four-way connection on both of
them. I do not use all eight sockets (four cameras, printer,
expandable 'hard drive' with a couple vacancies.) I like the idea of
instant expansion also.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great?
Date: 6 Jan 2004 07:49:45 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


dold@IsXTiVoXRe.usenet.us.com wrote in message
news:<telecom23.7.17@telecom-digest.org>:

> Rob <rob51166@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> I remember TiVo being advertised over here in the UK several years
>> ago, but it never took off. In fact, I'd say it died a death.  I put

> I certainly see more posts in alt.video.ptv.tivo from the UK than I
> would expect from a dead product.

> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

Ask people on a general high street in the UK what TiVo is and they'll
no doubt look at you askance.  Ask them what Sky+ is and there's every
possibility that they'll know exactly what it is.

The biggest problem TiVo had in the UK was the lack of proper
marketing and advertising. Plus it wasn't a name that people here
recognised.  As far as Sky's concerned, however, every household in
the UK has heard of it, and a lot of people have their TV service
through Sky Digital, if not Sky+.

------------------------------

From: Michael Chance <mchance@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Then Benjamin Franklin Must be a Terrorist Too?
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:01:11 GMT


In article <telecom23.2.17@telecom-digest.org>, Joe@nospamcity.com 
says:

> Hey, what about folks like me who voted for Bush and now feel like I
> elected Adolf Hitler?  Trouble is, I can't stand any of the Democrats
> so it is time to stay home.

The recent spate of comparisons of President Bush to Adolf Hitler are
so outrageous, it's almost impossible to write a calm, rational
response.  Since he's done it so much better than me, here's the
response of Jack Rosen, president of the American Jewish Congress,
from his recent article in the Wall Street Journal:

"The Holocaust was the worst crime in history. The Nazis killed ... 
millions ... in a systematic genocide. ...

"The last survivors of that horror will soon pass from among
us. It is for them that we guard against the danger that the
memory of the Holocaust will be trivialized. That danger is abetted
when people devalue this monumental evil for political gain.

"Comparing the commander-in-chief of a democratic nation to the
murderous tyrant Hitler is not only historically specious, it is
morally outrageous. "

Please remember to think of those remaining Holocaust survivors before
you go calling someone -- anyone -- another Hitler.

Never again.

Michael Chance

------------------------------

From: Charles Cryderman <Charles.Cryderman@globalcrossing.com>
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $7
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:04:36 -0500 


Pat,

The note you had provided stated that "20/20" did an
investigation. Here is their response:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_marketingscam021008.html

Marketing Scheme Falsely Using 20/20's Name
Internet Ploy Seeks Cash From Respondents

N E W Y O R K, Oct. 8 -Internet stories with headlines like "ABC's
20-20 'Boy 15 Makes 71 Thousand in 5 Weeks'" have been falsely using
ABC's and 20/20's names. The schemes claim that you can get rich by
doing little more than spending $25 on various Internet marketing
reports. They also claim that ABC's 20/20 broadcast a news report that
investigated this scheme and concluded it was legal. This statement is
patently false.

ABC has never investigated this scheme and has not broadcast a news
report validating it.

For further information on chain letter/get-rich-quick schemes,
contact postal authorities or go to their Web site at:
http://usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm.

Happy New Year old man and may you see many more.

Chip Cryderman

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From: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:46:24 -0800


On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:42:53 -0800, Rob wrote:

> OK, I know that this may very well seem a dumb question, but why is
> the NANP numbering system different to other phone systems throughout
> the world?

> The vast majority of countries in the world have area codes beginning
> with '0', whereas in NANP countries the area code commences with '1',
> and then numbers on the same area code, or even numbers in
> neighbouring codes (i.e. 919, 252 and 304), aren't always regarded as
> local, as they are here in the UK. 

The area code doesn't start with a '1' in the NANP.  A leading '1' may
or may not be necessary depending on the locality and how it is set
up.  It so happens that the country code for the NANP is also '1',
which can be a bit confusing.  Area codes, also referred to as NPA for
"Number Plan Area", are three digits long.  The first digit is 2
through 9.

Within each area code are exchange codes, also three digits in length,
the leading digit of which is also 2 through 9.  Each exchange code
can support up to 10,000 lines, so four more digits follow.  A full
NANP telephone number is ten digits, usually written with a hyphen
between each group such as xxx-yyy-zzzz. You may also see an older
form (xxx) yyy-zzzz, where xxx is the area code, yyy is the exchange
code, and zzzz is the individual line within the exchange.

Early on, the second digit of an area code was either a 1 or a 0, and
the second digit of an exchange code was never a 1 or 0.  Thus, it was
possible to examine the dialed digits on-the-fly and determine by the
end of the second digit whether a call was within or outside of the
NPA.  If the second digit is a 1 or 0, the customer is dialing an NPA,
expect a total of ten digits.  If the second digit is 2 through 9, the
customer is dialing an exchange code, expect a total of seven digits.
Letters on the dial were used in positions 2 through 9 and exchanges
were given names corresponding to th efirst two digits.

The leading digit "1" was not used, as it could be a switchhook
bounce.  The leading digit "0" got you an operator.

Toll vs. local calling is determined by mileage, not by number
pattern. It is possible that calls within the same NPA are toll, or
that calls to an adjacent NPA are local. Typically anything beyond 12
to 16 miles is toll.  An NPA can cover up to an entire state, which
can be hundreds of miles.

At some point, some telephone companies began to require a leading "1"
to place a toll call, as it was not possible to tell from a 7-digit
number if it was toll or not.  Often a second, higher pitched dial
tone followed the "1" to further caution the customer that it was a
toll call.

With population growth, area codes would "split", new lines would be
drawn on the map, and exchange codes could then be re-used in both the
new and old area codes.  After a while this ceased to scale and the
digits 0 and 1 were allowed as the second digit of exchange codes.
This broke the convention of using names as there are no letters on
the dial in the 0 and 1 positions.  The abandonment of exchange names
caused a political hue-and-cry at the time, but it allowed the number
of exchanges within an NPA to grow by 20%.

Now it was no longer possible to tell from the second digit whether a
call was within or outside the local NPA.  The leading 1 was changed
from an optional "this is a toll call" to "An NPA follows."  For
example, if I'm calling a number in NPA 512, I would dial
1-512-yyy-zzzz.  There might also be a 512 exchange within my local
NPA, which I would dial as 512-zzzz with no leading 1.  Much later,
the requirement that the second digit of an NPA be 1 or 0 was also
dropped, which allowed many more NPAs.

In some localities with rapid growth, area code splits became
frequent.  This is a problem with reprinting stationery, educating
customers, reprogramming automatic dialers, etc.  People got upset
about the nuisance of this, and "overlay" vs "split" area codes were
born.  This meant that the area code no longer really represented an
area, as two area codes would cover the same geographic area.  As
exchange codes are unique only to an NPA, you could have a phone
number of 512-555-0166 and your next door neighbor would have
789-555-0166.  and, you would be local calls to each other.  In these
localities, customers would frequently misdial by omitting the area
code.  Telcos then mandated ten-digit dialing, where the customer was
required to dial the NPA even if it was the same as his own.

> For example, my local calling area not only covers my own exchange
> (01685) but also all numbers on the neighbouring exchanges of 01443,
> 01639, 01874 and 01495.

Not only is it not possible to tell from the digits dialed if a number
is local or toll, we have "LATAs", or geographic boundaries that are
quasi-toll and don't line up with NPAs at all.  Within a LATA, the
local telco usually handles these quasi-toll calls, but if aa call
crosses into a different LATA (even if it might be in the same NPA),
the call must be handled by a long distance carrier, usually other
than the local exchange telco.

> Also, how are calls charged between countries within NANP -- that
> is,  is a call from Canada or the US to Bermuda or Barbados regarded
> as international, even though they're technically (I think!) on the
> same phone system?

They're charged based on the calling and called country, not by the
digits dialed, handled by a long distance carrier.

This all probably seems very confusing to someone who hasn't grown up
with it, but it kind of makes sense to those of us who have.  The
driving force is to have fixed-length numbers of seven or ten digits,
and delay the need to go beyond ten digits for a fully unique number
for as long as possible.

 From a technical perspective, it would have been easier to put
wireless services in their own unique NPAs, as the growth in wireless
is what drove many NPA splits.  The wireless folks fought this
politically.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:44:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering


Earle Robinson (no email address indicated), from France, claims:

(BIG snip)

> ... [Finally] to address your vaunted 7 digit dialing. Well it ain't so
> in many places any more. In Miami you have to dial 10 digits to call a
> local number and I think it is the same in NYC, too.

But whoever said in this thread that seven-digit (local and/or same-NPA)
dialing is still in force "everywhere" in the NANP?

The NANP was intended as a ten-digit numbering plan from the
beginning, on a "3+3+4" format (or "3+7") even though in the 1940s
thru early 1960s, there were *MANY* areas that still had
less-than-seven-digit local numbering/dialing.

And most all of us are *QUITE WELL AWARE* that there are the overlay
areas with *mandatory* (1+)ten-digit local/same-NPA dialing, such as
the entire state of Maryland (301/240, 410/443), New York City
(212/646, 718/347, 917), most of southeast Florida (305/786, 954/754),
a large part of southern/southeastern Ontario/Toronto Metro (416/647,
905/289), a large part of southwest BC/Vancouver Metro (604/778), the
northern suburbs of Chicago (847/224), Atlanta Metro (404/770/678/470), 
Houston Metro (713/281/832), just about ALL of northeastern (903/430)
TX (including but not just Dallas (214/972/469) and Ft.Worth (817/682)
Metro), Charlotte NC Metro (704/980), the VA suburbs of DC (703/571),
the Portland OR extended area (503/971), Denver CO Metro (303/720), a
portion of southeastern MI (248/947), parts of northeastern (330/224)
and all of northwestern (419/567) Ohio, Philadelphia (215/267) and
southeastern (610/484) PA, most of northern NJ (201/551, 973/862,
732/848), eastern MA/Boston Metro/etc (617/857, 508/774, 781/339,
978/351), Pittsburgh PA Metro (412/724/878), ALL of Puerto Rico
(787/939), Orlando Metro/Central Florida (407/321).  I THINK that I've
covered all of the overlay areas (which all have mandatory
(1+)ten-digit local/same-NPA dialing). And there are more areas which
are planned to go overlay whenever it is actually determined that
another area code is really needed. (Disclaimer ... I hope I don't have
any typograhical errors in listing the actual code-numerics neither).

The NANP has adapted to the numerous technological and regulatory
changes over the past 50 years, with the least noticeable changes in
actual numbering/dailing when compared to OTHER parts of the world
 ... and again I'll say that the NANP *IS THE BEST* numbering/dialing
plan IN THE WORLD, despite some "flaws" which could be corrected with
industry/regulatory agreement/co-operation.

> Given this, many people are confused between long distance dialing,
> 11 digits (1 digit more than here in Europe) and local calling. With
> our 10 digit dialing norm there is no confusion.

YEAH... You're RIGHT! and *THAT's* because YOU don't really have ANY
real "FREE" local calling. In (most parts of) Europe (including France
and the UK), you PAY for even your shortest distance local
calls. True, some of the more populated largest urban areas in the US
have measured/message rate/unit "local" calling (and I guess that many
parts of the NON-US Caribbean parts of the NANP have measured "local"
calling too), but the LARGE BULK of the US, as well as ALL of Canada,
do have *TRUE* "free" (monthly flat rate) local calling.

And, those parts of the US (and all of Canada) *DO* usually have a
clear indication in the *dialing* procedure as to when a call would or
would not incur toll charges -- i.e., (other than
800/888/877/866/etc. toll-free where 1+ always still seems to be
required), the "requirement" of a 1+ before a ten-digit number when
dialed from those areas means that toll charges are most likely
incurred, while calls that do not incurr extra toll charges (with the
exeption of the 8YY+nxx-xxxx toll-free numbers as stated above) are
dialable as 'straight' ten-digits.

Unfortunately, dialing rules are not uniform throughout the NANP.

BUT ... I'll take the NANP methods over *ANY* other numbering/dialing
plans. The NANP has *MOST CERTAINLY* stood the test of time! And it
covers one of the largest geographic areas of the world, as well as
THE most *populated* parts of the world.

Mark J. Cuccia
New Orleans LA CSA
 ... in the LAND of DIXIE!

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, I think the most populated
part of the world is China. They are way ahead of the USA population,
even if you include Canada which somehow got included in the scheme
intended for the USA and the several islands south of Florida put
together. But the NANP is strange because of the political games which
have been played with it over the years.  Canada is 'good' so they got
included; Cuba is 'bad' so they were excluded, even though it (Cuba)
is surrounded by other islands which are included in NANP.  Even
though Hawaii and Alaska are states and therefore entitled to be NANP,
two other relatively insignificant and tiny islands thousands of miles
away had their international codes swapped into the NANP. Mexico is
no further away than Canada, yet it (Mexico) is not NANP. Why does
a large island to the northeast of Canada get included in NANP (as
709?) but St. P&M (much closer to mainland USA not get included? So
Mark, it seems to me NANP is not such a great deal; there were lots of
politics played in who got to be included, and why.   PAT]   

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:39:12 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:58:41 +0100, Earle Robinson <Address Withheld at
User's Request> wrote:

> You speak of how the American phone system already had 7 digits from
> the 40s on. Well, yes in cities like New York. But, I was growing up
> in Greenwich Connecticut where our phone number was Greenwich 102.

Well, it's no different than what other places went through.  Smaller
places had differing length phone numbers.  Many places in the UK had
three digit telephone numbers up until a few years ago.  Many places
in the US if they were small enough might have had as few as 3 digit
telephone numbers as well.  The North American system has been
basically the same from 1947 though to the present with some changes.
Yes, there's not always continuity between dialing from one area to
the other, but basically everything has remained the same since 1947.

> Today, overall the systems here are often better than what is in the
> states.

> I also recall how awful phone service was in west Los Angeles in the
> late 70s and into the 80s (also mentioned by another writer in a
> message here the other day). We were served (an oxymoron) by General
> Telephone.  

I really don't think you can judge American telephone quality by a
second-rate telephone company such as GTE.

> Here in France if I dial a number, and there is no call waiting on
> that line, I get a busy signal, just as in the states. But, all I need
> do is to punch the 5 on the touch pad and hang up. When my
> correspondent hangs up my number rings, I pick up the phone and the
> phone is ringing at the other end.  

And that service is also available in North America as well.

> If you are in NYC you have Verizon , if in Miami Bell South. No
> choice. 

Perhaps this was so at one time.  You are free to get local service
from numerous companies now.

> Finally, to address your vaunted 7 digit dialing. Well it ain't so in
> many places any more. In Miami you have to dial 10 digits to call a
> local number and I think it is the same in NYC, too. Given this, many
> people are confused between long distance dialing, 11 digits (1 digit
> more than here in Europe) and local calling. With our 10 digit dialing
> norm there is no confusion.

No, it isn't available in all places any longer, but then again you
have to dial 10 digits on all your calls in France so there's no
advantage for you either.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

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From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 06 Jan 2004 21:01:03 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


> The monthly bill was around six or seven dollars and my
> roomate and I agreed to split the bill but each be responsible for 
> our own long distance charges and or telegrams which were sent by
> phone. 

So in 22 years the price changed about $5.00, and I got a Touch Tone
phone to boot! So that does support the argument that a regulated
monopoly was better for us than the current scheme although I see now
that Verizon is offering an unlimited plan here in RI for $54 a month.

I pay about $45 a month now for all my services -- and my LD runs
anywhere from $5.00 a month to $20 a month. So my total telecom costs
range from $50 a month to $65 a month at an average of $57.50. The
plan might just be worth it.

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Date: 7 Jan 2004 01:18:55 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> I paid a total of $12 a month. That included the phone rental (A red
> 2500 set of course!) and the Touch-Tone surcharge and taxes.

> Now the line charge alone is $17.26, then add in the damned fees and
> taxes and it come out close to $30.

Twelve bucks in 1982 is worth about $24 now, so the local rate has
gone up by about 25%.  In the meantime, long distance rates have gone
from over 25 cents/min (worth about 50 cents/min now) to 5 cents/min
or lower, so they've dropped by 90%.  If you make no long distance
calls at all you lose, if you make a lot you win, if you make an
average number, it's a wash.

> That's what is killing any savings. The phone companies and the
> government saw a golden opportunity to rape and pilage as usual and we
> end up footing the bill.

I've got news for you, there were plenty of taxes in 1982 as well.
Local rates deliberately went up because the subsidy from long
distance is almost gone.

> Know what? Universal Service charges should have gone away a long
> time ago. If people want to move out to the burbs and rural areas let
> them pay to have the lines strung.

I don't think it's a good idea to start an inter-regional war.  The
current implementation of USF certainly leavs something to be desired,
but the theory is as good as ever: the more people you can call, the
more useful your phone is.  There are lots of involuntary transfers
from one part of the country to another, and I sure hope you don't
live in California because if you do, I'd like to have a few words
about your water bill.

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From: dold@IsXTiVoXRe.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Is TiVo Really All That Great?
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:24:44 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Rob <rob51166@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ask people on a general high street in the UK what TiVo is and they'll
> no doubt look at you askance.  Ask them what Sky+ is and there's every
> possibility that they'll know exactly what it is.

That is the same as in the US.  But I consider Tivo a growing product.

Ask people on the street in the US what Dean Witter is and they'll
recognize the name.  The fact that the company no longer exists is
irrelevant.

Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

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From: balanco01@yahoo.com (Proprclr)
Subject: Re: OnStar's Scare Tactics
Date: 6 Jan 2004 13:14:17 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


joe@home.com.eu (joe@home.com.eu) said:

> I leased a GMC vehicle for 3 years starting in Feb 2002.  It had one
> year's free Onstar (I call it Offfstar ;-)
> It is absolutely worthless.  The clerks that they employ speak
> terrible English, are for the mostpart stupid, and some are even
> surely.

Let me guess, Onstar "outsourced" it's call center to India.

> If you have a roll-over crash the antenna will probably break off,
> thus preventing the cell phone connection.

> OTOH, if you have an on-highway crash, the odds are overwhelming that
> help will come first from the sources used by the 99% of folks and
> entities who do not have Offstar.

> The optional personal calling feature sucks, too.  Although it sounds
> good in the vehicle the person on the other end hears a very tinny
> voice.  And, there is no way of sending out DMTF for after-connect tone
> prompts.

Hmmm ... will holding up one of those hand held DTMF dialers to the
microphone work?

> And, getting directions is good for a real belly laugh.

> Anyone who subscribes to this service is apparently too dumb to get
> their own cell phone and real auto GPS navigation unit.

I've heard their recent ads, what a dumb campaign.  General Bullmoose
created a real loser, and is force-feeding it to keep it alive.

I doubt I will get another GM vehicle so long as they force me to pay
for that equipment (it's a mandatory install in many of their lines of
vehicles).

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From: Albert LaFrance <lafrance@att.net>
Subject: AT&T Long Lines Web Site, Cold War Comms E-mail List
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:03:22 -0500


Mr. Townson,

First of all, I wanted to let you know how interesting and useful the
Telecom Digest and Archive has been to me -- it's a very valuable
resource!

Also, I maintain a web site which you might want to add to your Links
page.  It's devoted to the former AT&T Long Lines microwave and cable
networks: http://long-lines.net .

And finally, there's an e-mail list on the Yahoo Groups service which
deals with all types of communications networks, C3I systems and
facilities of the Cold War era.  The group's web page, where you can
join or view archived messages, is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coldwarcomms .

Again, thanks for your excellent work in preserving telecom history.

Regards,

Albert LaFrance

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks very much for your kind words, 
Albert. I do appreciate it when someone tells me they like the hard
work that has gone into the Archives over the years. In correspondence
I receive now and then from someone who absolutely hates me as the
moderator here (and he claims there are just whole bunches like
himself, but never comes up with any names), a recent letter from him
pointed out 'how obvious it was that the Digest was not any good
lately as a quick look at the Archives would easily indicate.' But 
what the Moderator Hater tends to ignore is the fact that when this
Digest began there was no web, and there were *no* other telecom
forums around. I was sort of like Ma Bell ... if you wanted to talk
telecom you did it here, in this newsgroup. And like the late Ma Bell,
now I have literally dozens of 'competitors' around on the web and
the various ISPs, like Yahoo and AOL and others. Everyone has a telecom
forum these days, it seems. I've invited him to go use a few of them,
and maybe he does, but he still comes around here to pester me also. 

If I had *anything* at all to do with a few of the other forums
getting started -- and I know I did for a few of them -- then I am
humbly grateful. Anyway, thanks again for your kind note, and I hope
this mention in the Digest gets you a few new subscribers/readers.
PAT]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:33:58 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering; Joey's Advice to the Unwashed Masses


Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 12:47:27 PM, Earle Robinson wrote:

> You say that the USA is the leader for technology, etc. Yes, that is
> true, but the brains behind much of this come from Europeans and,
> more recently, Asians.  Andy Grove is Hungarian, as was von Neumann.
> American rocket technology was brought by von Braun from German 
> after the 2nd World War.

(more examples snipped)

And the zipper, basketball, the snowmobile, and (Eureka!) the
telephone all came out of Canada.  Innovation comes from all over.
Mark's point is that the USA is a world leader in innovation, and
despite your examples to the contrary, Mark's statement is perfectly
true.

> Here in France if I dial a number, and there is no call waiting on
> that line, I get a busy signal, just as in the states. But, all I need
> do is to punch the 5 on the touch pad and hang up. When my corres-
> pondent hangs up my number rings, I pick up the phone and the
> phone is ringing at the other end.  No extra charge, no monthly
> fee. It's free.

You are intimating that this service is unavailable here (later, in
your original post, you clearly state that we "don't have" this
feature).  In fact we do, and depending on the phone company you're
with, it might be pay-per-use, or a flat-fee charged monthly, or may
be included in a service bundle.  But we do have this feature.
Granted, it takes three keys rather than one, but hey.

> Interested in ADSL?  All I need do is provide my phone number and
> address on a web page and I am told how many meters I am from the
> central office and told I qualify because it is 473 meters. If I
> prefer a phone company other than France telecom I can choose from 6
> or 7. Try that in the states!

Try that in Germany or the UK.  My German friends tell me that ADSL is
completely unavailable where they live (outside Muenchen) but they've
got ISDN at some whopping huge monthly rate.  Ditto my friend in
London, England.  She lives in one of the most important cities in the
world, and they can't even get broadband together (she calls it
"steam-powered internet").  Before moving recently, she could not get
ADSL or cablemodem service for love or money.  Now she's got
cablemodem (still no ADSL available), and is paying as much as I'm
paying for "business class" service here in Canada, and getting about
a tenth of the bandwidth.

There are exceptions to everything, Earle.

This other point you make, though, is interesting.  You're telling me
that there are six or seven companies competing for local dialtone
service for residential customers?  Hey, I'll take your word for it,
but this I find extremely hard to believe.  Long distance, maybe.
Dialtone?  Wow, that's unbelievable.  Here in the wilds of Western
Canada, we've got two local dialtone providers (for residential: six
or seven for business) and umpteen dozen long distance companies all
vying for our 3 cents per minute.

> If you are in NYC you have Verizon , if in Miami Bell South. No
> choice.

Perhaps some of our American readers can respond to this point, but
I'm sure that there are alternatives to the ILEC available in these
markets.  Or am I wrong?

> I stand corrected as concerns the maximum number of digits mandated
> by the ITU. But, this could be readily extended, as it was when it
> went from 12 to 15.  The American system seems so cumbersome in
> comparison.

Why would more than 15 ever be necessary?  How many people can this
world support?  Personally I thought it was ridiculous moving from 12
to 15 in the first place, in order to allow for this direct-dial-in
variable-number-length scheme in Germany and Austria.  Fixed length
good, variable length bad.  :-)

> While I can merely replace the first digit to use one of the major
> alternate carriers, in the states I'd have to dial several digits to
> do this.

You have to dial "several" digits to select SOME carriers, as you
illustrated in your example.  The NANP system probably has one or two
digits too many, but it allows for a maximum of 10,000 long distance
carriers.  That's a lot.

> We also have features, like the handling if a busy signal
> that I already mentioned, which you don't have. 

See above.

> For example, I can add other data to my directory listing using the
> internet, to provide the names of other people who use my number,
> email addresses and other numbers, too. Cellular phone numbers will
> be listed shortly, though one may opt out if one wishes.  Call
> blocking here may be done on an individual basis or
> globally. Naturally, there is an emergency number, 112, valid
> everywhere in Europe. But there is also an emergency number for
> abused women to call, too.

Ah, yes.  Aren't standards a wonderful thing?  112 gets you an
emergency operator, and that's all well and good.  Works throughout
Europe, you say?  Great.

But you'll pardon us if we grimace a bit when you brag about these
things, because our standards existed FIRST.  Why should we change
"911" to "112"?  Look at it from our point of view.  Here's what we
see: a bunch of johnny-come-latelys take a look at our standards,
decide they need changing (mostly so that they're not "American"
anymore), implement those changes, then can't understand why the rest
of the world won't join their new and improved "standard".

Nobody asked us for our opinion, and even if they had, it has not been
demonstrated that this new standard is in any way superior to what
we've got, which works and works well.  It's a model of efficiency.
10 digits is just fine for 350 million people and leaves lots of room
for growth.
 
> Finally, to address your vaunted 7 digit dialing. Well it ain't so
> in many places any more. In Miami you have to dial 10 digits to call
> a local number and I think it is the same in NYC, too. Given this,
> many people are confused between long distance dialing, 11 digits (1
> digit more than here in Europe) and local calling. With our 10 digit
> dialing norm there is no confusion.

Exsqueeze me?  Baking soda?  If I'm in France, I dial 10 digits to
reach across the country or to the restaurant across the street.
Explain to me how a Frenchman is *NOT* confused over what is long
distance and what is local, where an American WOULD be.  You're
talking out of your ass on this one.

As for me, here in Calgary I dial local calls as 7-digit, though I
have the option also of dialing as 10-digit (with area code) or even
11-digit (1+area code).  If I dial a long-distance number with only 7
digits, my call will not go through, which alerts me that this is a
call I'm going to have to pay for.  (but let's not start that jihad
again -- some people are adamantly opposed to toll-alerting)

And that brings me to the most basic, fundamental difference between
"my" phone system and "your" phone system.  I can pick up my phone and
call my friend across the city and chat for hours, and never even
*THINK* about what this call is costing me.  Because it's not costing
me anything over and above my monthly flat-rate.  When you adopt THAT,
let me know, and I'll reconsider this quaint notion that your phone
system is somehow "better" than ours.

Y'know, the way you really, really stretch credulity in order to
construct an argument -- ANY argument -- that something French is better
than something American, reminds me a whole lot of something that
Robin Williams said in his recent concert video.  Imagine, if you
will, Robin speaking in an over-the-top French accent, and saying
something like the following (paraphrased to keep it in a g-rated
context):

"Ah, screw you Americans, we hate you ... What's that?  Ze Germans are
coming?  'ALLO, AMERICANS!  WE LOVE YOU!!!"

Joey Lindstrom


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There you go, Earle! Did Joey get you
straightened out, or didn't he?  Don't you just love Canadians who
like to pretend they are arrogant USA citizens, with their general
dislike for so much of the customs of the rest of the world?  PAT]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:22:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Apple Macworld Expo Press Releases


Apple Introduces iPod mini
6 January 2004, 2:02pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061902_PRN__SFTU087

Over Two Million iPods Sold
6 January 2004, 2:02pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061902_PRN__SFTU088

Apple Announces iLife '04
6 January 2004, 2:04pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061904_PRN__SFTU089

Apple Introduces Jam Pack
6 January 2004, 2:05pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061905_PRN__SFTU090

Apple Introduces Xserve G5
6 January 2004, 2:06pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061906_PRN__SFTU091

Apple Unveils New Xserve RAID Storage System
6 January 2004, 2:07pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061907_PRN__SFTU092

Apple Introduces Final Cut Express 2
6 January 2004, 2:07pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061907_PRN__SFTU093

Mac OS X Users Approach 10 Million
6 January 2004, 2:09pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061909_PRN__SFTU094

Apple Previews Xgrid Technology
6 January 2004, 2:09pm ET, PR Newswire
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NASDAQ:AAPL&story=200401061909_PRN__SFTU095

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Bonanza for Errors [Diebold] (Marcus Didius Falco)
    Internet Telephones Challenge Social Contract (Marcus Didius Falco)
    Caller-ID on Regular Phones Using a PBX (Chainsman)
    Automated Attendant Systems (JamminDJ)
    Re: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP (Chainsman)
    Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $71,000!!! (Marcus D Falco)
    ReplayTV Apologizes for Service Flap (Monty Solomon)
    Delphi Unveils Mobile Satellite TV Antenna System at CES (Monty Solomon)
    Intel Launches $200 Million Fund For 'Digital Home' (Monty Solomon)
    Re: NANP Numbering and Splits (John Levine)
    The NANP, and Comments by the Digest's Editor (Mark J Cuccia)

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 22:52:52 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Bonanza for Errors [Diebold]


By DER SPIEGEL

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/international/europe/05SPIEGEL.html

Published: January 5, 2004

America's Electronic Voting Machines Are Susceptible to Manipulation

Walden O'Dell is entitled to call himself a "Pioneer." The business
leader from North Canton, Ohio, has qualified for the honorific
because he collected 600,000 dollars for George W. Bush's election
campaign. He accompanied this with a pledge to do everything possible
to help Ohio "deliver its electoral votes to the president" in 2004.

But with this statement O'Dell has caused more of a stir than he could
have wished. For the "Pioneer" is also chief executive of Diebold
Inc., a company that among other things manufactures voting
machines. About 40,000 of these are installed in 37 states and are
supposed to record and count votes on November 2. Diebold is in second
place, right behind the market leader, Election Systems and Software
which achieved its top ranking under Chuck Hagel before he, a
Republican, was elected senator from Nebraska.

Recently the states have left decisions about the technological side
of voting procedures to private companies. It is shocking enough that
the giants of the trade are vying to get close to the government. But
in addition, O'Dell has inadvertently called attention to how
susceptible the machines are to manipulation.

In principle, voting machines work like ATMs: The voter touches the
name of his candidate on the screen. But instead of receiving some
sort of receipt at the end of the transaction as he does from a money
machine, he gets no receipt at all for the vote he has cast. Thus
there is no way to check whether the machine has really recorded what
it was supposed to have recorded.

And discrepancies are not rare, as was revealed a year and a half ago
during spot checks performed in Dallas and Georgia: in thousands of
cases the computerized voting machines had either allocated votes to
the wrong candidate or not counted them at all. The lame excuse was
that the screen had wrongly calibrated itself because of frequent use.

In the meantime, legions of computer freaks have tackled both the
computers' software and hardware, discovering plenty of sources for
errors.  Since the exact time of the transaction is not recorded as it
is with ATMs, some sinister forces could arrange ex post facto for a
desired result without attracting attention during the customarily low
voter turnout.  Diebold even admitted that the database had not been
encoded before the counting of the votes -- a windfall for hackers.

Ironically, the electronic voting machines are supposed to prevent a
repetition of the embarrassments that occurred in Florida in 2000, and
which tinged the election of Bush with suspicion. Antiquated equipment
was unable to read voting cards that had not been properly punched -
and consequently they were not counted.

The U.S. Congress is spending just under four billion dollars on
modernization of the voting process. A changeover to the digital era
will be complete by 2006. By November 2nd this year, new computer
screens should be operational at about 20 percent of all polling
places.

Now Diebold is thrashing about with all sorts of inadequate
explanations for the defective software. Yet the company could learn a
lesson from its small, keen competitor. The Avante company combines
digital high tech with old-fashioned paper statements. In this way
each voter can make sure that the computer has really done what the
voter wanted it to do -- and manipulation is, at least for the most
part, made more difficult.

[translated from the German by Margot Bettauer Dembo]

Distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in
receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:52:30 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Internet Telephones Challenge Social Contract


It's a not terribly accurate description of the subsidies in the past,
or the current issues. But, can the good grey Times be wrong?

http://www.iht.com/articles/123613.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/technology/05voip.html

Matt Richtel
Monday, January 5, 2004

Charles Davidson, a self-proclaimed gadget freak in Tallahassee,
Florida, began using Internet-based telephone service last week. He
can call anyone -- not just the other 100,000 pioneers around the
United States using such service, but also any of the millions of
people still making do with conventional telephones, like his parents
in Elizabethton, Tennessee. But Davidson is more than an adventuresome
consumer. He is also a member of the Florida Public Service
Commission, a regulator who is anxious to see Internet telephone
service spread because he predicts it can make the nation's phone
services less expensive and richer in features.

That is why Davidson wants the U.S. and state governments to allow
Internet-based phone service to blossom, free from regulation, taxes
and surcharges. Like a growing number of officials who advocate
minimal oversight of the service -- including Michael Powell, the
chairman of the Federal Communications Commission -- Davidson says
Internet telephone service should be treated just like other
unregulated Internet services, like e-mail messaging and Web surfing.

But unlike some proponents of deregulation, Davidson also has a
nagging concern. Because Internet-based phone service currently rides
over traditional telephone or cable lines, it simply will not work
unless the conventional phone network is intact. The government has
long regarded that network as a national asset akin to roads and
highways, and it is a communications system whose reliability and
virtual ubiquity make it the envy of most of the rest of the world.

So Internet telephone service raises a key public policy question: If
the government does not continue to play a role in ensuring that the
telephone network is reliable and universally available, does the
nation risk losing a vital asset?

Davidson, a former antitrust lawyer appointed to the Florida
commission by the Republican governor, Jeb Bush, says he tends to
believe that markets are more efficient than regulators.

But some of Davidson's counterparts in other states sound just as
certain that only government referees can preserve the decades-old
tradition of universal, reliable telephone service.

"If somebody doesn't regulate this, it's buyer beware," said Loretta
Lynch, a member of the California Public Utilities Commission, who was
appointed by the former governor, Gray Davis, a Democrat. Lynch, a
lawyer, said the telephone's role in society was too important to
leave in the hands of market forces. "Telecommunications is essential
to our democracy," she said. "It's essential, in fact, to keeping an
informed populace."

The communications commission has embarked on a series of public
hearings around the country on whether and how to regulate Internet
telephony.

The policy questions go to the heart of a social compact born in the
1930's. Back then, the government granted regulated monopolies in
individual markets to AT&T and other, smaller companies. In exchange,
policy makers exacted a price: the telephone monopolies had to meet
service-quality standards and collect taxes and surcharges to support
affordable, universal access even in rural areas where free-market
economics would not have made it cost-effective.

Some of the lower costs of Internet telephone service are a result of
the underlying architecture. In the conventional telephone network,
voice calls travel over a line that stretches from the home to a piece
of phone company equipment called a circuit switch. The switch, and
many others like it along the way, routes the call to its destination
over local or long-distance networks. The switches can be expensive,
as much as $10 million apiece, said John Hodulik, a telecommunications
analyst with UBS Securities.

Were telephone companies to build a network from scratch today, they
likely would do so using the less expensive Internet architecture that
has enabled start-up companies like Vonage Holdings, based in Edison,
New Jersey, to enter the market. Vonage, the industry leader, has
invested a mere $12 million in technology, according to Jeffrey
Citron, the company's chief executive. That, he said, is a far cry
from the $75 million to $100 million that some companies must spend to
begin offering conventional telephone service.

But some critics say a big reason Vonage and other Internet-based
phone providers can cut costs is because they do not have to adhere to
the same rules and regulations as the conventional telephone companies
on whose local and national networks the Internet providers
depend. Even an Internet telephony fan like Jeff Pulver, who was
formerly on the Vonage board, acknowledged that a substantial amount
of cost savings comes from avoiding the taxes, surcharges, and access
fees used to support the traditional phone network.

The fact that Vonage is not regulated and did not pay to build the
national network may obscure the real cost of providing Internet-based
phone service. Likewise, the cost to customers is not as low as it may
seem.  While consumers may pay less each month for Internet telephone
service than for regular phone service, they cannot obtain the service
unless they first have high-speed Internet access -- on which they are
likely to spend $40 to $70 a month.

That is why policy makers like Lynch of the California regulatory
panel resist the idea that Internet telephone service will lead to a
telecommunications market so competitive that government regulation
becomes unnecessary. She said that if conventional telephone companies
like Qwest were allowed to avoid regulation by moving their business
to Internet-based service, it would drain money from the universal
service funds that have enabled low-income residents, as well as
schools and libraries, to afford basic phone service.

The New York Times

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From: Chainsman <chainsman@netscape.net>
Subject: Caller-ID on Regular Phones using a PBX
Date: 6 Jan 2004 19:27:59 -0800
Organization: http://netscape.net/


Hi, I have a home telephone system which I'm very pleased with but my
family is distraught that it won't pass caller-ID to their regular
phones.  I have looked around for systems that pass caller-ID to
regular old phones but haven't found any so far.  I have heard that
there is a new Panasonic unit that will pass caller-ID to regular
phones.  Does anyone know of any systems that will do this?  My
requirements are for a minimum of 2 outside lines and 6 extensions.


Thanks!

------------------------------

From: JamminDJ <jammindj@notmyrealaddress.com>
Subject: Automated Attendant Systems
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:30:33 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


Hello, I am a tech consonant for a computer help desk at a mid to
large size university. Currently all calls to the centre go through an
initial auto attendant system, then are forwarded to dept. depending
on need. One of these options is password change. This is all done by
human operator right now, we take their SSN numbers and get fed a new
password out. This becomes quite tiresome, and some higher ups have
actually threatened to quit due to the infinite number of calls for
change password requests. My question is, is there a piece of software
or hardware, capable of taking a purely numeric SSN number, feeding to
one of our mainframes, and spit out the purely alphaic password? I
know it can be done, this is evident in the CVS 'Rapid Refill'
system. I just wonder if there is any third party software that can do
this, and do it at a university price.

Thank you for your time,

Paul Miller

------------------------------

From: Chainsman <chainsman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: Using PIX 501 With Vonage VoIP
Date: 6 Jan 2004 19:34:14 -0800
Organization: http://netscape.net/


Hi, I use Vonage VoIP with my home telephone system in a NATted and
firewalled network and it works fine.  If you order Vonage now, the
current device has a simple firewall and NAT function so you can use
it like a gateway.  The most important reason to do this is that your
firewall will probably not pass-through the Quality-of-Service (QoS)
tagged packets.  If you use the Vonage device between your gateway and
your cable/DSL modem then the QoS tags are used and, probably more
importantly, the VoIP network activity gets the highest priority over
your networks' internally-generated traffic.

The layout that gives VoIP the highest priority (via QoS over the
cable modem network and priority over all your internal network's
traffic): network --> gateway/router --> Vonage device --> cable modem

I have used it in both modes and if you are doing online games you
will probably not like the firewall and NAT function but if you depend
on the Vonage for your primary phone line (I do not) you will want it
as the last device before the modem.

It should be noted that Cisco was not interested in adding the
NAT/Firewall feature to their VoIP box so that's why Vonage is only
using the Motorola box now.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:39:41 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year Old Gets Caught With $71,000!!!


pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader) wrote about  Re: Last Laugh! 15 Year 
Old Gets Caught With $71,000!!!

> 'free_money@cox.net writes:

<<snip>>

> But still, this one part always boggles me:

>> chain-letter at all. In fact, it was completely legal according to US
>> Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18,
>> Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations,
>> Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must
>> be exchanged for money received.

> Those references are correct, and there is indeed that last sentence
> in them.  But if you read the rest of the law, which you're bound to
> do if you've bothered to look it up, you know the 'reports' figleaf
> will not work. I understand that the postmaster general just *loves*
> to get copies of chain letters that mention this, because it makes
> proving fraud fairly trivial.  You might claim ignorance of a law and
> get leniency, but when a cite to the law is right in your pitch,
> documenting that what you're doing is illegal ...

Unfortunately, the post office isn't set up to deal with Email spam,
or wasn't the last time I checked. And the IRS isn't set up to deal
with Email that purports to show how you don't have to pay taxes. And
the FCC doesn't care about the cable boxes that allow you to pirate
CATV.

The SEC does seem to care (or at least respond) when I forward spam
investment opportunities (or faxed ones, though these now have to be
faxed to the SEC because their incoming mail is irradiated and this
destroys non-plain-paper faxes. <Enforcement@sec.gov>

The FTC is supposed to be doing something about spam, and I just heard
of another large case filed. <uce@ftc.gov> And some of the 419 frauds
sent to the secret service <419.fcd@usss.treas.gov> do seem to get
prosecuted.

But, mostly, there isn't much point in forwarding spam to the
authorities other than the SEC, FTC or USSS.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:18:36 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ReplayTV Apologizes for Service Flap


SANTA CLARA, Calif. (AP) -- Digital video recorder maker ReplayTV is
apologizing to customers after many were lured to buy a machine
through an offer of three years' of free service that the company now
says it made by mistake.

The Santa Clara-based company said Tuesday that boxes of its
lowest-end model were "mistakenly labeled" with the reduced price
offer, which has been rescinded. In addition, ReplayTV says the
company's call center employees mistakenly told some customers the new
lower $149 price for the unit included three years of service.

ReplayTV said it would honor the three years of service offer "for
those customers who were confused by these mistakes." A spokeswoman
was unsure how many customers qualified.


http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401070256_APO_V6448

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:34:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Delphi Unveils Mobile Satellite TV Antenna System at CES


Delphi Demonstrates Consistent TV Reception

That Will Bring the 'Best Seat' Into the Vehicle

LAS VEGAS, Jan. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Delphi Corp. (NYSE:DPH) will display
another industry-first at the 2004 International Consumer Electronics
Show this week (Las Vegas Convention Center, North Hall, Booths #5206
and #5213). Delphi's innovative antenna system tracks a geo-stationary
satellite from a moving passenger vehicle. The technology is the
first-known application to achieve this functionality while adhering
to the stringent compact packaging and styling, cost and performance
constraints associated with passenger car requirements.

While there are currently military and other specialty vehicles that
utilize geo-stationary satellite tracking technologies with large
radomes, none exists in low-profile form or without modifications in
the vehicle contour.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401061500_PRN__DETU008

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:37:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Intel Launches $200 Million Fund For 'Digital Home'


By Ben Berkowitz and Daniel Sorid

LAS VEGAS/SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 7 (Reuters) - Intel Corp.  (NASDAQ:INTC),
the world's largest microchip maker and an eager entrant into the
consumer electronics business, is backing up its vision of a
PC-centric digital home with a new $200 million investment fund.

The fund, to be operated by Intel's venture capital arm, will focus on
technologies that allow content such as movies and music to travel
wirelessly between electronic devices around the home, Intel said on
Tuesday.

Intel stands to profit handsomely should PC technology, which is
heavily reliant on Intel chips and Microsoft Corp.  (NASDAQ:MSFT)
software -- spread into televisions, DVD players and stereos.

Major PC makers and computer chip companies, unsatisfied with thin
margins and slowing sales in traditional computer businesses, are
pushing actively into consumer electronics.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40133201

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jan 2004 05:43:58 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering and Splits
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> From a technical perspective, it would have been easier to put
> wireless services in their own unique NPAs, as the growth in wireless
> is what drove many NPA splits.  The wireless folks fought this
> politically.

The conventional wisdom is that wireless, fax machines, and dialup
modems were the main reason for all those area code splits, but in
this case the conventional wisdom is wrong.

The main reason was local competition.  Because call routing and
billing were both based on NPA-NXX, every CLEC had to get an entire
prefix in every rate center where it planned to offer service, even if
it really only needed a few dozen numbers.  Lots of CLECs started up,
they all got allocated prefixes all over the place, which needed a
whole lot of area codes.  Since then the number of CLECs has shrunk,
and a combination of local portability and thousands allocation has
vastly slowed the rate at which new prefixes are needed, but you still
have inane situations like Middlebury VT, with a population of less
than 10,000, having eleven prefixes (three Bell, one each for three
cell carriers, and five for other carriers.)

Putting wireless in separate NPAs would have been a terrible idea for
both policy and technical reasons.  It'd have been bad policy since
it'd have maintained an increasingly irrelevant distinction between
the two, and the price and service competition we're now seeing
between wireline and wireless wouldn't have developed as fast if it
all.

With integrated numbering, cell carriers could hook up to the existing
phone network either like PBXes for small locations or like an
non-Bell ILEC switch in larger ones, with no changes to the existing
wireline switches other than what they already did anytime a new
prefix was opened.  If they'd made separate area codes, they'd have
had to overlay a new area code on top of every existing area code,
forcing switches to upgrade to permit overlays long before they
actually did.  It would have used up a lot more area codes than
actually happened, since there are plenty of NPAs where all the cell
numbers fit into the existing area code and no overlay or split has
been needed.


Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl 
Sewer Commissioner
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:51:50 -0600 (CST)
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@tulane.edu>
Subject: The NANP, and Comments by the Digest's Editor


The Digest editor had interjected comments at the end of two submissions
in a recent Digest issue (issue #9), on the subject of the NANP.

The editor first commented at the end of my previous submission:

> ... it seems to me NANP is not such a great deal; there were lots of
> politics played in who got to be included, and why.

Patrick, my reply post was MOSTLY concerned with the numbering and
dialing aspects of the NANP, not so much the politics involved. And
for the most part, the politics wasn't so much governmental as
BUSINESS associations and relationships. Yes, government policy did
have some influence (i.e., Cuba and Mexico), but for the most part it
wasn't the US government as much as it was the *CUBAN* and *MEXICAN*
governments that didn't want to be part of the NANP back in the
1960s/70s/era, and that has all become legacy. SP&M is FRENCH (as are
Guadeloupe, Martinique, etc. in the Caribbean) and again, it was the
*FRENCH* that wanted European-French-like telephone aspects on those
islands.

Geography is mostly centered around the mainland US/Canada, even though
there are the US-Pacific (and AK/HI states) and NANP-Caribbean.

Yes, I probably erred in saying that the US/Canada is the most
populated part of the world, when in actuality it would be China. I
should have known because I have always heard all of those "old
sayings" about the number of Chinam ... Chinese ...

But the US/Canada is the largest in *TELEPHONE* population of the
world, i.e., telephone penetration, in the world, as far as I can
tell.

So, as the MAIN intent of my posts was the actual NUMBERING/DIALING
aspects of the NANP (with geography and "some" politics" thrown in),
I'll reply to one of your comments in that light ... if you don't
think that the NANP is "such a great deal" afterall, I don't know what
you've been placing calls on for the past 50-some years. Maybe you
should move to the UK (especially LONDON) or some other country where
there are *wholesale* numbering changes in the major cities (locally
too) or even nationally, every few years.

And later on, the Editor makes a comment at the end of Joey
Lindstrom's reply post;

> There you go, Earle! Did Joey get you straightened out, or didn't he?
> Don't you just love Canadians who like to pretend they are arrogant USA
> citizens, with their general dislike for so much of the customs of the
> rest of the world?

Actually, Patrick, it's the other way around. Pot calling the kettle
black here, me-thinks. YES, I will admit that there are those
US/Canadians who travel to Europe/etc. and try to run their lives. I
also admit that the US government has *FOR DECADES* tried to "run the
world" and *THAT* is why most-of-the-rest-of-the-world (especially
many Arab countries and Arabs IN EXILE) seem to HATE "us" for the
foreign policy of the US Government (which seems to be managed by a
certain foreign country anyhows! :( )

BUT ... I really want to get back to TELEPHONY, mainly numbering/dialing.

MY obsevations are that for the most part, most of us in the NANP are
mostly happy with our own numbering and dialing plan. Those of us who
"know" the telephone industry are well aware of what other parts of
the world had, as well as currently have, or will be modifying to, in
the way of numbering/dialing/etc. And it does make for some intersting
comparison.

But we here in the NANP, while "happy" to advise/consult WHEN ASKED,
are NOT really all that interested in chaning or "forcing" NANP-like
policies on other parts of the world.

HOWEVER ... It certainly seems to me that the Euros (and other
"rest-of-the-worlders") or at least CERTAIN individuals from those
non-NANP parts of the world, who post to TELECOM Digest AND another
telecom (numbering) forum on the Internet, seem to take an arrogant
attitude towards the NANP *EVERY TIME THEY THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY
WITH IT*, especially when "unprovoked".

And there are those of us in the NANP who are quite defensive of our
own numbering/dialing systems, and don't like to see it WRONGLY
"trashed".  ESPECIALLY when most of us really keep to ourselves and
try NOT to dictate NANP policies on other countries, but ALSO we can
come up with FACTUAL refutations to those other "claims" from
non-NANP-ers.

And, Patrick (and others), as a matter of fact, the trend in "other
parts of the world", FOR THE MOST PART, but probably not "universally"
nor "ironclad", seems to be in their current numbering/dialing
modifications of the 1990s+, is to become more "NANP-like" in the fact
that they are migrating to fixed-length "overall" numbering, whether
or not "parsing" is becoming uniform. And in some cases, there is
fixed-length *dialing* in some of these countries. It might not be a
"carbon copy" of the NANP, but it is migrating to fixed-length aspects
which have mostly been a major aspect of NANP "numbering" (and to a
great but not universal extent, dialing) since the NANP's inception.

AGAIN, I will say (especially because the Editor here who has lived in
the NANP all his life, makes the statement that he doesn't think the
NANP is "such a great deal") ... the NANP has most CERTAINLY stood up
to the test of time over the past five-plus decades, and will probably
stand up to the test of time over the NEXT five (maybe even more)
decades, in the fact that it remains a ten-digit format, only now
generalized to NXX-NXX-xxxx.  AND NO OTHER COUNTRY/NUMBERING PLAN can
make such a claim, at least not for anything in the PAST years/decades. 
(I can't speak for the future because I dont know what the growth 
trend projections are in other parts of the world).

Mark J. Cuccia
New Orleans LA CSA (in the LAND of DIXIE!)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  You can always tell when Mark becomes
angry because (a) he spends an entire line or more yelling (large
case) and (b) because he takes my name in vain, using it in every
paragraph or two. I do not know what you are talking about when you
say our numbering system is stable. So stable, in fact, that during 
the 1990-2000 time period I had to change my number four times on
account of changes in area codes.  I started out in 312, had it for
many years, along with all of northern Illinois. Then it became 773
because the crybaby banks and financial houses downtown kept wanting
more and more and more and more phones, and *they* thought it was 
unfair to make *them* change to 773, so everyone else in Chicago had
to move to 773  to accomodate them (maybe so they would quit crying
about what an expense it would be to make *them* have to change their
stationary, etc ... so a few million rest of us had to change ours
instead). If we had had a 'flexible' numbering system such as parts
of Europe, then the stupid bankers could have had fifteen digit
numbers if they wanted to cover all their PBX-extensions and the 
rest of us would have stayed in 312, since the banks and large corp-
orations downtown refused to give it up. 

Well then they changed to 708 for the suburbs -- all of them. Well
okay, so I had to start dialing ten digits to the McDonalds right across
the street, literally less than fifty feet away, to order my lunch 
and have it delivered. Or eleven digits if you count the damnable '1'
on the front of different (than yourself) area codes. Then as I
started to wise up to Chicago politics, etc and fled to live in Skokie
I myself became a 708-er ... but it doesn't stop there.  Soon after
moving to Skokie and handing out my 'new' telephone number, more 
crybabies came along and said now you will be 847 (as in 'VIP') and
only the south and close in west suburbs will keep 708. Again, the
very idea of making *them* dial additional digits just wouldn't do.
After all, we have this fabulous NANP system, and *they* want more
phone numbers for their faxes, their cell phones, their teenager
lines, etc  so YOU will move to 847 ... I don't live there now, but
I understand that now the 847 people have all been evacuated once
again to 224 along the lakefront area. 

The stench from politics in Chicago got to be so awful I knew I had
to move *really far away* in order to breath fresh air once again, so
I came to 316-ville. No sooner had I gotten here, give or take a few
months, and the Boeing Aircraft people in Wichita and the state
government people in Topeka all decided they wanted more, more, more,
more phones, so after making sufficient stink with the Kansas
Commission they got to keep 316 and I got moved to 620. Then South-
western Bell, in their wisdom, decided I had to go back to dialing 
'1' before *anything* that was not in the City of Independence
itself. Even directory assistance, '1411'. Even rinky-dinky Prairie
Stream Communications is not that insane.   

And you say that NANP is a stable system that has served me well?

Oh, by the way, in case of dire emergency, which is the only valid
reason for calling '911' it is still shorter and easier for users of
rotary phones to dial '112' (four pulses/pulls) than 911 (eleven
pulses/pulls). But that would involve some changes in our system, in
our way of doing things, right Mark?    PAT]

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    JetBlue to Add Fox Video Entertainment System; Debut XM (Monty Solomon)
    AT&T 'Unlimited Country Plans' (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Caller-ID on Regular Phones Using a PBX (Carl Navarro)
    Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004,on 1-Jan-1984 (Kilo Delta Sierra)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Wesrock@aol.com)
    Re: NANP Numbering; Joey's Advice to the Unwashed Masses (David Winfrey)
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:03:31 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: JetBlue to Add Fox Video Entertainment System and Debut XM


NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 7, 2004--

   Low-Fare Carrier Will Offer up to 100 Channels of Satellite Radio
     Free of Charge and Add Movies and Episodes of "The Simpsons"

JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq:JBLU) will make flights even more entertaining
in 2004. JetBlue was the first carrier to debut up to 24 channels of
live DIRECTV(R)(a) programming in-flight in 2000, and remains the only
carrier offering satellite TV free at every seat.  Now, in agreements
with XM Satellite Radio (Nasdaq:XMSR) and News Corporation (NYSE:NWS),
(NYSE:NWS.A); (ASX:NCP), (ASX:NCPDP), JetBlue will add up to 100
channels of digital satellite radio and movie channels featuring 20th
Century Fox movies and episodes of Fox's popular TV series "The
Simpsons."

XM Satellite Radio's free in-flight service will allow JetBlue
customers to choose from XM's unmatched variety of music, news,
sports, information and entertainment, all with digital-quality audio
and coast-to-coast coverage. Current artist information and song title
playing will be displayed on JetBlue's seat-back TV screens to provide
a comprehensive audio-visual experience. The system is expected to be
introduced fleet-wide on JetBlue's Airbus A320 aircraft this year and
on the airline's new fleet of EMBRAER 190 aircraft as they are
introduced into service in 2005. In 2004, JetBlue will also add movie
channels which will be offered for a nominal fee. The first dedicated
in-flight service created by News Corporation's Fox Entertainment
Group will offer JetBlue customers first-run movies, television shows,
sports and news programming plus other original entertainment
developed by Fox. The digital video system will feature an in-seat
credit card payment system, whereby JetBlue customers can purchase Fox
entertainment options through a convenient credit card reader. LiveTV,
LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of JetBlue, will install the onboard
systems that will deliver the XM Satellite Radio and digital video
services.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40133815

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:06:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T 'Unlimited Country Plans'

     AT&T Leads Market with Innovative 'Unlimited Country Plans'
     - Jan 7, 2004 07:30 AM (PR Newswire)

Unique New Plans Offer Unlimited International Calling To 17 Countries.
Consumers Also Offered An Unlimited Asia Select And Unlimited Europe
                            Select Plan.

MORRISTOWN, N.J., Jan. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- AT&T today announced a
groundbreaking and industry-leading offer with its "AT&T Unlimited
Country(SM) Plans."  These exclusive AT&T calling plans provide
unlimited international calling to 17 popular countries for a specific
monthly plan fee.* As the industry leader in unlimited long distance
for domestic calling, AT&T continues to break new ground by broadening
its portfolio to include unlimited international calling to 17
countries.

With a monthly plan fee as low as $39.95 for unlimited calling to the
United Kingdom, calling across the ocean or around the world has never
been easier or more economical.  Consumers will enjoy the ease and
convenience of one low monthly plan fee for unlimited international
calls to the eligible country of their choice -- 24 hours a day, seven
days a week -- on direct-dialed calls made from home.  In addition,
subscribers who call any other country will receive AT&T's already low
international rates through the AT&T AnyHour Advantage Plan.  As a
special value at no additional charge, subscribers to any Unlimited
Country Plan will receive a flat rate on domestic long distance of 7
cents per minute on all interstate and in-state calls direct-dialed
from home.**

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40134455

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Caller-ID on Regular Phones using a PBX
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:07:38 -0500
Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America


On 6 Jan 2004 19:27:59 -0800, Chainsman <chainsman@netscape.net>
wrote:

> Hi, I have a home telephone system which I'm very pleased with but my
> family is distraught that it won't pass caller-ID to their regular
> phones.  I have looked around for systems that pass caller-ID to
> regular old phones but haven't found any so far.  I have heard that
> there is a new Panasonic unit that will pass caller-ID to regular
> phones.  Does anyone know of any systems that will do this?  My
> requirements are for a minimum of 2 outside lines and 6 extensions.

The Comdial DX-80 will pass CID to 4 S/L sets.  Since a system would
probably come with a couple of multi line sets, or you could double up
extensions, it might not be a problem.  I would guess that
correspondingly the Vodavi STS might do the same.

The Panasonic digital 308 will pass CID to one S/L station and you
could drive a couple of CID boxes.  I don't remember if the new
systems coming out will do CID to sets.


Carl Navarro

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From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:39:29 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


> I don't think it's a good idea to start an inter-regional war.  The
> current implementation of USF certainly leavs something to be desired,
> but the theory is as good as ever: the more people you can call, the
> more useful your phone is.  There are lots of involuntary transfers
> from one part of the country to another, and I sure hope you don't
> live in California because if you do, I'd like to have a few words
> about your water bill.

No, not California but Rhode Island. New England in general gets
screwed in the federal tax scheme. We put much more money in than we
get back, even when you include the Big Dig in Boston.

What blew my mind about the Big Dig is that most of it is 6 lane
highway. If you've ever driven the highways through Boston or even
Providence you know that six lanes isn't adequate.

The difference is obvious here in Providence. Once you break past
downtown Providence and points south, I-95 becomes 4 lanes. And every
day -- in the afternoon there's a huge pile-up during the commute at
the change from 4 to 3 lanes coming north.

For those living in Cranston and parts of Warwick they can take either
RI-10 in or I-295 to RI-6 which then dumps in at the end of RI-10
which then connects back to I-95 near the I-195 interchange.

Stupidity of government agencies never fails to amaze me. 

------------------------------

From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:51:21 EST
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering


In a message dated Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:39:12 -0800 Joseph
<JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom> writes:

> Well, it's no different than what other places went through.  Smaller
> places had differing length phone numbers.  Many places in the UK had
> three digit telephone numbers up until a few years ago.  Many places
> in the US if they were small enough might have had as few as 3 digit
> telephone numbers as well.

      When I lived in Konawa, Oklahoma, during the early 1950s and was
owner of the Konawa Leader (weekly newspaper), the office number was
234 and my home number was, I believe, 287.  This was a dial exchange.

      The NANP, while in existence, was still in its preliminary
stages of being implemented.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com

------------------------------

From: David Winfrey <dlw@nospam.patriot.net>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering; Joey's Advice to the Unwashed Masses
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 13:04:58 -0000
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There you go, Earle! Did Joey get you
> straightened out, or didn't he?  Don't you just love Canadians who
> like to pretend they are arrogant USA citizens, with their general
> dislike for so much of the customs of the rest of the world?  PAT]

The editor's credibility might be improved substantially if he would
present facts to demonstrate why Joey's various points are not
correct.  Accusations of arrogance are not particularly useful;
rational argument requires actual data.

But this is Usenet.  Sorry, I forgot.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are forgiven for forgetting this 
time around.  But this Usenet (the very same!) is where Joey Lindstrom
can make comments to Earle such as:

(Quoting from the back issue a couple days ago:)

> Y'know, the way you really, really stretch credulity in order to
> construct an argument -- ANY argument -- that something French is better
> than something American, reminds me a whole lot of something that
> Robin Williams said in his recent concert video.  Imagine, if you
> will, Robin speaking in an over-the-top French accent, and saying
> something like the following (paraphrased to keep it in a g-rated
> context):

> "Ah, screw you Americans, we hate you ... What's that?  Ze Germans are
> coming?  'ALLO, AMERICANS!  WE LOVE YOU!!!"

> Joey Lindstrom

So while you are reminising about Usenet and the things you have for-
gotten about it, please remember the above as well. In no *moderated*
newsgroup would the above total disdain for an entire nation of people
be permitted, as Joey has done. And those final two lines above which
begin, "ah screw you Americans" was the basis of my response to Joey
Lindstrom. So while you complain about my dearth of factual matter,
perhaps you might ask Mr. Lindstrom to explain where the above fits 
in to anything.   PAT] 

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: The NANP, and Comments by the Digest's Editor
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 15:27:32 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:51:50 -0600 (CST), [Pat the comp.dcom.telecom
editor]  wrote:

> [I do not know what you are talking about when you
> say our numbering system is stable. So stable, in fact, that during 
> the 1990-2000 time period I had to change my number four times on
> account of changes in area codes.  I started out in 312, had it for
> many years, along with all of northern Illinois. Then it became 773
> because the crybaby banks and financial houses downtown kept wanting
> more and more and more and more phones, and *they* thought it was 
> unfair to make *them* change to 773, so everyone else in Chicago had
> to move to 773  to accomodate them (maybe so they would quit crying
> about what an expense it would be to make *them* have to change their
> stationary, etc ... so a few million rest of us had to change ours
> instead). If we had had a 'flexible' numbering system such as parts
> of Europe, then the stupid bankers could have had fifteen digit
> numbers if they wanted to cover all their PBX-extensions and the 
> rest of us would have stayed in 312, since the banks and large corp-
> orations downtown refused to give it up.   

The reality is that the form of the NANP has remained pretty much the
same since 1947.  The changes to area codes have happened because of
growth and also because of politics.

As was mentioned in another previous bit on this subject the fault for
you having to change your number the many times you had to was because
everyone did every possible thing that they could do to fight the
"inevitable" that instead of carving up areas into smaller and smaller
areas they instead did overlays and put another area code in the same
area where an area code already served.  In retrospect if people knew
what they do now about how there was going to be a run on procuring
new numbers between 1995 and 2002 they perhaps might have done things
differently.  Then again some areas probably wouldn't such as
Californians who have a fear of dialing extra digits on a local call
even though 80% of their calls require them to dial extra digits
anyway.  Politics has played a big part in the mess.  Not only in
Chicago, but in Boston among other places.  Places with clout got to
keep their old area code.  Places that didn't have clout were
relegated to getting a new area code with all the trouble and expense
that goes with it.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

------------------------------

From: Earle Robinson <address removed at writer's request>
Subject: NANP and Mr. Cuccia
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:53:22 +0100


(Please mask my email address.  Thank you.)

First all, Mr. Cuccia taxes as arrogant anyone who disagrees with
him. Why an ad hominem attack?

Mr. Cuccia, not only are there far more people in China than in the
USA, but Europe has more people, too.

While the UK did fumble its modernization of the telephone numbering
system, this didn't occur in the rest of Europe. My number in Paris
has remained the same for 20 years now.  Friends of mine in the states
have endured 3, 4 or more area code changes during this time.

In the USA the dialing system is also very confusing. In some areas
you dial 7 digits for a local call, in others 10, and in others 11.

Why?

Mr. Cuccia also praises and repraises the "free" local calls in much of the
states. However, he omits a couple of salient points.  First, one pays much
more monthly for a telephone line in the states than here in France. So,
someone who doesn't make many local calls is out of pocket much less here
than in the USA.  Further, there are now plans that offer a fixed number of
minutes per month at a very reasonable rate, too, and some that are
unlimited usage.  

Unlike Mr. Cuccia, I have used both the NANP system and the French
system extensively. How can one write without experience?

Earle Robinson

------------------------------

Subject: Inventions (was: NANP Numbering)
Date: Wed,  7 Jan 2004 20:12:23 EST
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Earle Robinson writes:

> The nuclear research was mostly done by men from Europe, too. Turing
> was English, the diesel engine was invented in Germany, movies in France
> ...  Radar and the decryption of German code were done in England. ...

The Enigma cipher was first broken in Poland, although the later
developments that enabled the Allies to continue breaking it
throughout the war, as well as the breaking of the more difficult
Geheimschreiber (code name "Fish") ciphers, did take place in England.

As for radar, the Germans, the British, the Americans, the French, and
the Japanese *all* invented it independently, and all kept it secret
from each other until the outbreak of war.  The first to complete a
working radar system was Rudolf Kühnold (Kuehnold) of Germany, in
1933-34.  The Germans were initially interested in naval applications,
and they had the first shipboard installation, in 1935.

Robert Watson-Watt of Britain invented radar independently in 1935,
and was determining the distance to targets months ahead of the
Germans.  The British government committed to using it for air defense
the same year, and by 1937 the British also had airborne radar
systems.  In the US, work on radar began in 1934 but proceeded more
slowly and a working system was not developed until 1936.  After the
war began, British and US researchers worked together to develop
better systems than either country had individually; much of this work
was in the US, which also contributed the word "radar" in 1940.  --

Mark Brader, Toronto "Unjutsly malinged? I think not."  
msb@vex.net --        Ross Howard

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    DISH Network Introduces One-Stop Lowest Price One-Stop Shop (M Solomon)
    Philips Unveils First Internet-ready TV Set (Monty Solomon)
    Gates Unveils Innovative New Products and Services at CES (M Solomon)
    Humax USA to Deliver TiVo(R)-Powered DVR and DVD Recordable (M Solomon)
    Finnish Study Shows Handset Radiation Within Limits (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo and Sonic Team Up to Put TiVo on the Go (Monty Solomon)
    Netscape Launches Low-Cost Internet Access Service (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon Wireless Announces Roll Out National 3G Network (Monty Solomon)
    Sony Ericsson Starts Web Gaming Service (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon Outlines Leadership Strategy for Broadband Era (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Inventions (was: NANP Numbering) (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
    Re: AT&T 'Unlimited Country Plans' (Joseph)

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:40:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: DISH Network Introduces Lowest Priced One-Stop Shop


     DISH Network Introduces Lowest Priced One-Stop Shop for
     High-Definition TV System
     - Jan 8, 2004 09:10 AM (BusinessWire)

ENGLEWOOD, Colo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 8, 2004--

    HD Leader Rolls out Everything You Need for Living Life in HD:
       Monitor, Satellite TV Receiver, Delivery and Installation
                         for Less Than $1,000

EchoStar Communications Corporation (Nasdaq:DISH) announced today at
the 2004 International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas that the
company's DISH Network(TM), a leading American satellite subscription
television service, is offering the most affordable high definition
television (HDTV) package in the nation.

The DISH Network HDTV System provides consumers with everything they
need to start enjoying HDTV: a 16:9 HD television monitor, an HD
satellite TV receiver, a satellite dish, home delivery and standard
professional installation, all for less than $1,000.

Further establishing itself as the leader in high definition TV, DISH
Network offers a package of popular HD channels, including ESPN HD,
Discovery HD Theater, HDNet and HDNet Movies for $9.99 per month or
$109.89 annually, the lowest prices in the industry.

DISH Network also offers high definition channels such as CBS-HD,
HBO-HD, Showtime HD, and DISH-On-Demand pay-per-view HD movies.

Offered to new and existing residential customers through a special
promotion through Jan. 31, 2004, the DISH Network HD System includes a
DISH 811 HD satellite TV receiver/decoder and the customer's choice of
a 34-inch CRT or a 40-inch rear-projection wide-screen HD monitor, all
for only $999. Delivery and installation are included. Customers must
agree to purchase at least America's Top 60 programming package
(formerly America's Top 50) for $24.99 per month and the HD package
for $9.99 per month for one year.

For new customers who already have an HD monitor, DISH Network offers
a promotion making the DISH 811 HD satellite TV receiver available for
free. This is a savings from the MSRP of $399.

DISH Network has further strengthened its HD product line with the
introduction of the first-of-its-kind high definition digital video
recorder (DVR). The DISH Player-DVR 921 is available now for a $600
upgrade when customers purchase the DISH Network HDTV System. The DISH
Player-DVR 921 features a 250-gigabyte hard drive capable of recording
up to 25 hours of high definition video or up to 180 hours of standard
definition content, or a combination of both.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40144695

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:31:52 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Philips Unveils First Internet-Ready TV Set


LAS VEGAS, Jan 7 (Reuters) - Dutch Philips Electronics (AMS:PHG)
(NYSE:PHG) on Wednesday unveiled a television set featuring a wireless
connection to the Internet and personal computers, enabling it to play
music, pictures and video from the Web or PCs.

The product, which was shown at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las
Vegas and which is not yet on sale, adds to a range of networked
products manufactured by Europe's largest consumer electronics maker.

Philips is already selling an Internet-connected HiFi set which can
play radio channels that are available on the Web. It has also
announced home servers which can pull music and video from the Net and
transport it to the TVs and HiFi sets which consumers already have in
their homes.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40141144

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:34:07 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Gates Unveils Innovative New Products and Services at CES


     Gates Unveils Innovative New Products and Services at CES,
     Details Vision of 'Seamless Computing' for Consumers
     - Jan 7, 2004 09:50 PM (PR Newswire)

Keynote Address Features New Media Center Technologies, MSN Services
and Smart Watches For MSN Direct; Gates Highlights Growing Role of
Software in Consumer Electronics.

LAS VEGAS, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- In his keynote address at
the 2004 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES), Microsoft
Corp. Chairman and Chief Software Architect Bill Gates expanded on the
company's vision for "seamless computing," demonstrating software
breakthroughs that deliver unified digital experiences and make the
technology in consumers' lives work as a connected whole. Gates
introduced a number of products and services that bring the power of
software to the world of consumer electronics, including MSN(R)
Premium and enhanced MSN services for broadband Internet users; and
new Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Media Center Extender Technologies and
Portable Media Centers, which make the digital entertainment
experiences of Media Center PCs available throughout the home and on
the go. Gates also announced retail availability of Smart Watches for
MSN Direct, which provide discreet and convenient access to
personalized information.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40141782

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:44:38 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Humax USA to Deliver TiVo(R)-Powered DVR and DVD Recordable


Details Product Specifications and Distribution Strategy;
              Signs on Good Guys and Tweeter

LAS VEGAS, Jan. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Humax, an international leader of
digital satellite set-top box manufacturing, today disclosed details
of its plan to sell innovative DVRs and DVD recordable products
powered by TiVo.

Humax has licensed TiVo-technology that will be incorporated into a
full line of digital video recorders and DVD recordable products. In
the start of the second quarter of 2004, Humax will introduce two
standalone TiVo Series 2(R) DVRs consisting of an entry-level 80-hour
model and a step-up 250-hour model. Later in the third quarter, Humax
plans to deliver two combination DVD recordable models integrated with
TiVo's best-of-breed service and robust features including home
networking capability, progressive scan output and DV input.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40142910

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:45:35 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Finnish Study Shows Handset Radiation Within Limits


By Brett Young

HELSINKI, Jan 8 (Reuters) - A survey of some of the world's most
popular cell phones found they emit radiation well below agreed limits
and largely in line with the data published by manufacturers, a
Finnish regulator's study showed on Thursday.

The survey by Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority Finland (STUK)
covered 12 models made by the world's top handset makers, including
Finland's Nokia (HELS:NOK1V), Motorola (NYSE:MOT) of the U.S. and
South Korea's Samsung (KOREA:005930).

The publication comes at a time that global demand for mobile phones
is booming but concern also is rising among consumers and some in the
scientific community that mobile phone use can lead to problems
ranging from headaches to tumours.

Nokia, the world's top player, has forecast 2003 global industry sales
of 460 million handsets alone, and some of its rivals expect an even
higher number. It foresees 1.6 billion mobile subscribers by 2005.

All models tested showed the radiation emitted, or the specific
absorption rate (SAR), was well below the agreed level in Europe of
two watts per kilogram.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40143058

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:46:26 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo and Sonic Team Up to Put TiVo on the Go


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 8, 2004--

   Sonic(R) Enables TiVo(R) Series2(TM) Subscribers with Home Media
   Option(TM) to View Recorded Programming on Laptops, Burn Recorded
                    Programming to DVD on their PCs

Sonic Solutions (NASDAQ:SNIC), the leader in DVD creation software,
announced today that it has teamed with TiVo (NASDAQ:TIVO), Inc., the
creator of television services for digital video recorders (DVRs), to
allow TiVo Series2 subscribers with Home Media Option to burn recorded
programming onto DVD using Sonic MyDVD(R) and play their TiVo content
on their PCs wherever they go with Sonic CinePlayer(TM).  The
combination of TiVo and Sonic technologies will, for the first time,
allow TiVo subscribers to take advantage of their PC to access content
on their TiVo DVR, burn to DVD, and enjoy TiVo on the go. The new
software is being demonstrated by TiVo and Sonic at CES.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40143266

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:47:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Netscape Launches Low-Cost Internet Access Service


    New Dial-Up Service Offers Unlimited Usage For $9.95 Per Month

Online Charity Auction of New Netscape.com E-Mail Addresses
Kicks-Off Today on eBay(R) to Benefit City Year

Netscape, one of the original pioneers of the Internet, today
announced the introduction of a new, affordably priced dial-up
Internet service for consumers who want a reliable and low-cost way to
get online. The Netscape(R) service costs $9.95 per month for
unlimited use and is available now at www.getnetscape.com or the
Netscape(R) portal ( www.netscape.com ).

With a simple approach of "Just the Net You Need," the Netscape
Internet service offers e-mail with built-in spam filters, a
convenient start page with news headlines, Internet search enhanced by
Google(TM) technology and unlimited dial-up Internet access through an
extensive nationwide network with thousands of access numbers,
allowing subscribers across the country to get online easily and stay
reliably connected. And, with the new service, Netscape.com e-mail
addresses are available publicly for the first time, giving
subscribers a unique opportunity to create a personalized online
address at a renowned Internet brand.

To kick off the launch, a special online charity auction of new
"@Netscape.com" e-mail addresses begins today on eBay, The World's
Online Marketplace(R) (found at www.getnetscape.com/ebay ). Two
hundred personalized e-mail addresses of the most popular female and
male first names will be up for bid on eBay from January 8 through
January 14. In addition to the personalized e-mail address, winning
bidders will receive a free year of the Netscape service
membership. Minimum bids start at $9.95 and proceeds will go to City
Year, which unites a diverse corps of young adults for a demanding
year of full-time community service, leadership development and civic
engagement.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40143653

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:49:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Wireless Announces Roll Out of National 3G Network


BroadbandAccess Provides Fastest Wide-Area Wireless Data Connections

BEDMINSTER, N.J., and LAS VEGAS, Jan. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon
Wireless, the nation's largest and most reliable wireless voice
network and the leader in next generation technology deployment, will
begin immediately to expand its BroadbandAccess service nationally.
Powered by Evolution-Data Optimized (EV-DO) third generation (3G)
wide-area network, BroadbandAccess commercial service, with average
user speeds of 300-500 kilobits per second (kbps), is expected to be
available in many major U.S. cities this summer.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40143779

     QUALCOMM Congratulates Verizon Wireless on Planned Nationwide
     Deployment of CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Services
     - Jan 8, 2004 07:30 AM (PR Newswire)

- First Nationwide Deployment in the United States Will Bring High-Speed
Wireless Data Services to Consumers and Businesses -

SAN DIEGO, Jan. 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- QUALCOMM Incorporated
(Nasdaq: QCOM), pioneer and world leader of Code Division Multiple
Access (CDMA) digital wireless technology, congratulates Verizon
Wireless on its plan to commercially deploy CDMA2000 1xEV-DO services
nationwide.  The third-generation (3G), high-speed data network,
marketed under the name BroadbandAccess, will be available to
customers in major markets this summer, with continued deployments
across the nation throughout 2004 and 2005.

The nationwide deployment of BroadbandAccess comes on the heels of
Verizon Wireless' successful commercial deployments in San Diego and
Washington, D.C.  in October 2003, which signified the first time that
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO access was made available in any major metropolitan
area in the United States.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40143634

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:51:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Sony Ericsson Starts Web Gaming Service


STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) -- Sony Ericsson said Thursday it launched a 
trial version of its own online gaming service for users of some of 
its phones, joining others in the bid to bring gaming to cell users.

But unlike Finland's Nokia, which released its much-hyped gaming deck
N-Gage, Sony Ericsson's service is usable on most of its higher end
phones and doesn't use Bluetooth to let gamers play each other head to
head.

The games, the London-based company said, are online, not stored in a 
multimedia card inserted into the phone.

The first games available include a Rally racer (a four-player game) 
and RC Battle (an eight-player game).

The trial service will let users download the game and then play 
other users via the online service.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40144216

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:03:49 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Outlines Leadership Strategy for Broadband Era


  Verizon Outlines Leadership Strategy for Broadband Era; Announces
  Major New 3G Mobile Data and Wireline IP Network Expansions

Verizon Chairman and CEO Ivan Seidenberg, at the Consumer Electronics
Show, Says Company Will Invest $3 Billion Over Next Two Years to Bring
Broadband to Mass Market

LAS VEGAS, Jan. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Chairman and CEO Ivan
Seidenberg today unveiled the company's plans for leadership in the
emerging broadband industry. He outlined two major new network
expansions that are key to bringing the benefits of this new era to
homes and businesses across America and said Verizon was committed to
investing a total of $3 billion in its networks over the next two
years to bring broadband to the mass market.

To illustrate Verizon's unique ability to lead in the broadband
revolution, Seidenberg also announced a new service, iobism, and new
product, Verizon One, that will help families and businesses create a
personal network to manage their communications devices and
activities.

The network expansion initiatives involve both Verizon's wireless and
wireline networks.  Verizon Wireless will expand its third-generation
(3G) mobile data BroadbandAccess network nationwide.  In addition to
its ongoing annual capital investment program to build network
capacity and coverage, the company will invest $1 billion over the
next two years to further deploy its broadband technology, known as
EV-DO (Evolution-Data Optimized).

Verizon also will dramatically accelerate the evolution of its
nationwide wireline network to packet-switching technology and, as
announced yesterday, has selected Nortel Networks as its voice over
Internet protocol (VoIP) equipment provider.

Both moves are major steps toward creating a new growth-market for
communications services in the wireless and broadband era.  Seidenberg
will outline the company's plans and Verizon's vision for the future
in an address scheduled for 2:30 p.m. PST today at the Consumer
Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40144501

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 08 Jan 2004 05:22:48 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Inventions (was: NANP Numbering)


> In the US, work on radar began in 1934 but proceeded more
> slowly and a working system was not developed until 1936. 

But the critical thing that did happen regarding RADAR happened here
in the U.S.

It essentially got Raytheon to where it is today. Seems the British
had to machine the cavity of the magnetron in a fairly robust piece of
metal -- it was time consuming and expensive.

An engineer from the U.S. whose name escapes me came up with the idea
of using stacked plates of the same dimension to form the magnetron
cavities.

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: AT&T 'Unlimited Country Plans'
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 08:19:19 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:06:04 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> With a monthly plan fee as low as $39.95 for unlimited calling to the
> United Kingdom, calling across the ocean or around the world has never
> been easier or more economical.  Consumers will enjoy the ease and
> convenience of one low monthly plan fee for unlimited international
> calls to the eligible country of their choice -- 24 hours a day, seven
> days a week -- on direct-dialed calls made from home.  In addition,
> subscribers who call any other country will receive AT&T's already low
> international rates through the AT&T AnyHour Advantage Plan.  As a
> special value at no additional charge, subscribers to any Unlimited
> Country Plan will receive a flat rate on domestic long distance of 7
> cents per minute on all interstate and in-state calls direct-dialed
> from home.**

How much you wanna bet that once they start selling these all you can
eat international plans that they'll introduce (after the fact) limits
to prevent people from camping on the line 24 hours a day.  We've seen
this before several times with Sprint and MCI/Worldcom.

And pardon me, but I can't get excited about domestic calls for 7
cents per minute when it's quite easy to find LD carriers giving 2.9
cents/minute and also bill in less than full minute increments as
well.

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    XM Satellite, Adobe, Picasa, MoodLogic Bring New Digital Music (Solomon)
    New TiVo(R) Powered Products in 2004 Include DVD Recorders (M Solomon)
    New TiVo(R) Service Release Ushers in Era of 'TiVo to Go' (M Solomon)
    Do Web Search Engines Suppress Controversy? (Monty Solomon)
    DIRECTV to Add High-Definition Network Signals to its Channel (Solomon)
    Rhapsody on Home Stereos (Monty Solomon)
    Philips Shows Off "Contactless" Payment Prototype (Monty Solomon)
    Murdoch Might Give Away Some Set-Top Boxes - Report (Monty Solomon)
    Echostar, Viacom Still Talking Toward CBS Deal (Monty Solomon)
    Annoying Phone Calls (Andy Nelson)
    Re: Inventions (was: NANP Numbering) (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Gates Unveils Innovative New Products and Services at CES (jmeissen)
    Re: Netscape Launches Low-Cost Internet Access Service (John McHarry)
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    Touchtone Accuracy Tests (Pete Romfh)

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:15:48 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: XM Satellite, Adobe, Picasa, MoodLogic Bring New Digital Music


     XM Satellite, Adobe, Picasa, MoodLogic Bring New Digital Music,
     Photo Services To TiVo(R) Via Home Media Option(TM)
     - Jan 8, 2004 01:00 PM (PR Newswire)

Leading Digital Content Companies Recognize Simplicity, Control of
Home Media Option To Create Enjoyable Living Room Entertainment
Experience


LAS VEGAS, INTERNATIONAL CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW, Jan. 8
/PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc. (Nasdaq: TIVO), the creator of
digital video recorders (DVRs), said new development partnerships with
leading digital photo and music companies will expand the features and
capabilities of the TiVo service through its groundbreaking Home Media
Option(TM).

Home Media Option is the easy-to-use solution for transporting digital
content stored on the PC to the television where it can be enjoyed by
the entire family. Now top digital media companies are extending their
products so they easily and simply communicate with TiVo connected to
the home network through Home Media Option.

At the International Consumer Electronics Show, TiVo demonstrated new
digital media services that are being developed by XM Satellite Radio
(Nasdaq: XMSR), that will bring satellite radio to the home
entertainment center. Other new services from Adobe (Nasdaq: ADBE),
MoodLogic and Picasa were also showcased by TiVo at CES.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40146769

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:17:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New TiVo(R) Powered Products in 2004 Include DVD Recorders, HD


     New TiVo(R) Powered Products in 2004 Include DVD Recorders, HD
     DVR, and Home Network Enabled Products
     - Jan 8, 2004 01:00 PM (PR Newswire)

TiVo Hallmarks of Simplicity and Control Fuel Proliferation of New Products

LAS VEGAS, INTERNATIONAL CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW, Jan. 8
/PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO) today said new products
powered by TiVo in 2004 will include DVD recorders, high-definition
DVRs, and home network enabled products. These new products point to
growing opportunities for TiVo in the marketplace, as the simplicity
and control that TiVo is known for becomes a sought after
differentiator by consumer electronics companies to drive adoption for
many new digital entertainment products.

In 2004, consumers will be able to experience TiVo in ways never
before possible. From DVD recorders that deliver on the unfulfilled
promise of the VCR, to the HD enabled DIRECTV (NYSE:GMH) DVR, to the
most popular standalone DVR on the market, the TiVo Series2(TM), TiVo
is offering consumers unparalleled functionality and ease of use, in
packages to fit any lifestyle.  In fact, consumers will be able to
choose from over a dozen TiVo powered products from industry leaders
including DIRECTV, Hughes, Humax, Philips, Pioneer, RCA, Samsung and
Toshiba this year.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40146764

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:12:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New TiVo(R) Service Release Ushers in Era of 'TiVo to Go'


TiVo Service Upgrade, Software from Sonic Solutions, TiVo Content
Security Key, Lets You Easily Transfer Recordings to a PC and Take
Them On the Road

LAS VEGAS, INTERNATIONAL CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW, Jan. 8
/PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO) announced today it
intends to deliver a new service release in the Fall of 2004 called
"TiVoToGo(TM)." For the first time, TiVo subscribers with Home Media
Option(TM) will be able to move their favorite programs stored on a
TiVo DVR to a laptop for viewing on the road, or to any PC. For those
who have a PC equipped with a DVD burner, programs can then be burned
to DVD so users can take the TiVo experience with them wherever they
go.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40146765

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:50:58 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Do Web Search Engines Suppress Controversy?


by Susan L. Gerhart

Abstract

Web behavior depends upon three interlocking communities: (1) authors
whose Web pages link to other pages; (2) search engines indexing and
ranking those pages; and (3) information seekers whose queries and
surfing reward authors and support search engines. Systematic
suppression of controversial topics would indicate a flaw in the Web's
ideology of openness and informativeness. This paper explores search
engines' bias by asking: Is a specific well-known controversy revealed
in a simple search? Experimental topics include: distance learning,
Albert Einstein, St. John's Wort, female astronauts, and Belize. The
experiments suggest simple queries tend to overly present the "sunnny
side" of these topics, with minimal controversy. A more "Objective
Web" is analyzed where: (a) Web page authors adopt research citation
practices; (b) search engines balance organizational and analytic
content; and, (c) searchers practice more wary multi-searching.

Contents

Understanding Web behavior: Politics, technology and users.

Why does visibility of controversy matter?

Case studies of controversial topics

Summary of case studies: How much is controversy suppressed?

Limits of the experiments

Explanations for controversy revealing/suppression

General explanations

Toward a more objective Web

A simulated objective Web

Conclusions

http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue9_1/gerhart/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:04:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: DIRECTV to Add High-Definition Network Signals to its Channel


DIRECTV to Add High-Definition Network Signals to its Channel Lineup; 
Agreement in Place to Offer CBS-HD Programming

8 January 2004, 11:00am ET

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 8, 2004--Continuing to expand its
high-definition and enhanced digital television programming, DIRECTV,
Inc., the nation's leading digital multichannel television service
provider, announced today that it plans to offer CBS-HD programming --
including hit primetime series "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" and
"Everybody Loves Raymond," as well as the Sunday, Feb. 1 broadcast of
Super Bowl XXXVIII -- in the coming weeks. A similar agreement with
FOX is expected to be reached in the next several weeks.

The CBS-HD programming, from WCBS in New York and KCBS in Los 
Angeles, will be available to eligible DIRECTV customers in markets 
where CBS owns and operates stations, including Chicago; Philadelphia; 
San Francisco; Boston; Dallas; Detroit; Minneapolis; Miami; Denver;
Pittsburgh; Baltimore; Salt Lake City; Austin, Texas; and Green Bay,
Wis. Similarly, FOX programming is also expected to be offered to
customers in FOX O&O markets.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401081600_BWR__BW5448

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:24:51 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Rhapsody on Home Stereos


     PRISMIQ Teams with RealNetworks To Give Consumers Access to
     Rhapsody on Home Stereos

PRISMIQ/Rhapsody Combo On Display During CES; Visit TechHome TechZone
(Booth #17695, South Hall 2) and RealNetworks booth (#22611, South
Hall) at Las Vegas Convention Center.

SAN MATEO, Calif., Jan. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- PRISMIQ, Inc. (
www.PRISMIQ.com ), a leader in networked entertainment devices and
software, today announced it has joined together with RealNetworks,
Inc. ( http://www.real.com ), the leading creator of digital media
services and software, to enable its customers to listen to
RealNetworks' award-winning Rhapsody Internet jukebox service on their
home stereo via a wireless or wired home network.

PRISMIQ's award-winning entertainment gateway product line, the
PRISMIQ MediaPlayer and the PRISMIQ MediaPlayer/Recorder, are next
generation entertainment gateways that sit on or near the home theater
system and connect to the home network to access PC Media and Internet
services. RealNetworks' Rhapsody is the #1 Internet jukebox service,
offering unlimited access to more than 30,000 CDs of music for just
$9.95 per month. By working together, the companies will enable
consumers to enjoy Rhapsody's wide-ranging library of music and the
service's high-fidelity Internet radio on their home entertainment
systems.

PRISMIQ and RealNetworks both embrace the UPnP(TM) (Universal Plug and
Play) standard to communicate and share information and media across
consumers' home networks. PRISMIQ recently completed integration of
RealNetworks' Rhapsody SDK, which ensures that consumers enjoy
unlimited remote access to their entire Rhapsody library while still
honoring copyrights. Only networked home audio components that are
certified to be compliant with RealNetworks' security enhancements can
bring the Rhapsody experience to the digital home. The next public
release of PRISMIQ software, currently scheduled for early February,
will contain code that enables existing and future customers to enjoy
Rhapsody.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40150831

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:27:38 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Philips Shows Off "Contactless" Payment Prototype


By Ben Berkowitz

LAS VEGAS, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Philips Semiconductors on Thursday
unveiled a new technology in cooperation with credit card provider
Visa International that it said promises to make wireless commerce as
easy as the wave of a hand.

Philips Semiconductors, a unit of Philips Electronics (AMS:PHG), on
Thursday took the wraps off Near Field Communication, or NFC, a
technology to enable a new kind of "contactless" payment.

As opposed to well-known limited-distance wireless standards like
Bluetooth, NFC has a much shorter range -- 4 inches or so -- and does
not require secured pairings as Bluetooth devices do.

Philips executives said their goal was to incorporate the NFC
technology in a wide range of computers, handheld devices and cell
phones. Visa said the technology could also be built into a new
generation of credit cards.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40151054

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:29:46 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Murdoch Might Give Away Some Set-Top Boxes - Report


NEW YORK, Jan 8 (Reuters) - News Corp. (AUS:NCP) (NYSE:NWS) chairman
Rupert Murdoch said he might give away some digital video recorder
set-top boxes to lure cable subscribers to News Corp.'s newly acquired
satellite TV provider DirecTV, according to an interview in Business
Week magazine.

A spokesman for News Corp. in New York was not immediately available
for comment on Thursday.

Last month, the Federal Communications Commission and antitrust
enforcers approved the $6.78 billion plan by News Corp. to gain
control of DirecTV, the No. 1 U.S. satellite television provider and a
pipeline into millions of American television sets with 12 million
subscribers.

In an interview in the latest issue of Business Week magazine, Murdoch
was asked whether he would give away set-top boxes to lure cable
subscribers.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40151141

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:53:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Echostar, Viacom Still Talking Toward CBS Deal


LOS ANGELES, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Satellite TV provider EchoStar
Communications Corp. (NASDAQ:DISH) and Viacom Inc. (NYSE:VIAb) have
extended talks into next week on a deal that would include broadcast
rights for CBS stations in major cities, including New York and Los
Angeles, both sides said on Thursday.

EchoStar also said that while negotiations continued, it has asked the
U.S. District Court in San Francisco to hold in abeyance a lawsuit it
filed a day earlier.

EchoStar's suit seeks to block Viacom from withdrawing rebroadcast
rights for its CBS-owned stations. The suit says Viacom has insisted
that any deal for rights to its CBS affiliates must include
arrangements for Viacom-owned cable networks such as a new offering,
Nicktoons.

By making that link, Viacom's actions amounted to an illegal restraint
on trade, the lawsuit said.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40151063

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:54:07 PST
From: Andy Nelson <andynelson999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Annoying Phone Calls


Can someone explain this?

One day last week, on New Year's Eve in the afternoon, I'm at home
since I have the day off from work. My phone rings once, briefly. I
try to answer it and get a dial tone. I hang up, thinking someone must
have dialed a wrong number and hung up but my phone rang anyway.

Within three seconds, my phone rings again. Briefly. Almost as short
as the courtesy ring when I forward my calls. So nothing can come
through on call display. Again, every time I answer, they have hung up
or disconnected and all I have is a dial tone. This happens many times
in just a two or three minute period!

So, I do a *69 to get a quote of the calling number if possible. It
quotes back a local area number, a number which ends in all zeros. I
forget exactly what the Name displayed, but it was a four character
name like a company's abbreviation. I remember trying to look them up
in the latest phone book but couldn't find any entry for them. I also
never heard of this company or that abbreviation before.

I also try to do a Call Block on that number, and whether I let the
system try to block the "last incoming call" or I try to manually
enter that number in myself, I get a message that "this number cannot
be added to your call block list".

I even tried calling back to that number, but I get a recording that
says that the number is not a good or working number! Huh?

I called into my voicemail to see if somehow those calls forwarded to
my voicemail and maybe someone left a message. While trying to
navigate my voicemail, I keep getting a Call Waiting beep tone every
five seconds, and the Call Display shows that very same number, each
time I get a beep, every time it takes up another slot on my Call
Display box!

It almost seems like SPAM, where every few seconds, another spam pops
into your inbox, where you get fifty or sixty porno spams in a very
short period of time!

All like I'm being attacked! HELP!

After a few minutes, the phone call attacks seem to stop. And so far
it hasn't happened again, thankfully!

Do telephone companies still provide Annoyance Call Bureaus? With
competition these days, you wonder if one company can file official
complaints about customers with a different phone company because of
annoying, obscene or threatening calls from the customer of the other
phone company, or if anything can be followed through.

But has this happened to anyone else before?

Thanks,

Andy

------------------------------

From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Inventions (was: NANP Numbering)
Date: 8 Jan 2004 15:51:17 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> As for radar, the Germans, the British, the Americans, the French, and
> the Japanese *all* invented it independently, and all kept it secret
> from each other until the outbreak of war.  The first to complete a
> working radar system was Rudolf Kühnold (Kuehnold) of Germany, in
> 1933-34.  The Germans were initially interested in naval applications,
> and they had the first shipboard installation, in 1935.

Right, BUT, what the English had was the magnetron.  Everybody else
was limited to very long wavelengths, which made their systems
comparatively less useful.

> Robert Watson-Watt of Britain invented radar independently in 1935,
> and was determining the distance to targets months ahead of the
> Germans.  The British government committed to using it for air defense
> the same year, and by 1937 the British also had airborne radar
> systems.

This was the CHAIN HOME system, which operated on 45 MHz.  The German
gear of the same era was also working on similarly long wavelengths.

> In the US, work on radar began in 1934 but proceeded more
> slowly and a working system was not developed until 1936.  After the
> war began, British and US researchers worked together to develop
> better systems than either country had individually; much of this work
> was in the US, which also contributed the word "radar" in 1940.  --

The concept of radar is fairly intuitive and it's not surprising that
many different groups in the thirties came up with it at the same
time.  What is amazing is the magnetron tube with the ability to
generate extremely short wavelength signals for high resolution
images.

--scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

------------------------------

From: jmeissen@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: Gates Unveils Innovative New Products and Services at CES
Date: 8 Jan 2004 23:05:54 GMT
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


In article <telecom23.12.3@telecom-digest.org>,
Monty Solomon  <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> Software in Consumer Electronics.

> LAS VEGAS, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- In his keynote address at
> the 2004 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES), Microsoft
> Corp. Chairman and Chief Software Architect Bill Gates expanded on the
> company's vision for "seamless computing," .....

> Gates introduced a number of products and services that bring the
> power of software to the world of consumer electronics, including
> MSN(R) Premium and enhanced MSN services for broadband Internet
> users; and new Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Media Center Extender
> Technologies and Portable Media Centers, which make the digital
> entertainment experiences of Media Center PCs available throughout
> the home and on the go. Gates also announced retail availability of
> Smart Watches for MSN Direct, which provide discreet and convenient
> access to personalized information.

So this is how far CES has fallen? The keynote address is now a
product announcement platform for Microsoft. I think Bill Gates should
be banned from making the keynote addresses in the future because he
has bastardized it like this. I'm sure there are REAL industry
visionaries out there who can think of more than what will make
Microsoft richer.

<sigh>


John Meissen                                     jmeissen@aracnet.com

------------------------------

From: John McHarry <jmcharry@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Netscape Launches Low-Cost Internet Access Service
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:35:16 -0500


Monty Solomon wrote:

>     New Dial-Up Service Offers Unlimited Usage For $9.95 Per Month

> Online Charity Auction of New Netscape.com E-Mail Addresses
> Kicks-Off Today on eBay(R) to Benefit City Year

> Netscape, one of the original pioneers of the Internet, today
> announced the introduction of a new, affordably priced dial-up
> Internet service for consumers who want a reliable and low-cost way to
> get online. The Netscape(R) service costs $9.95 per month for
> unlimited use and is available now at www.getnetscape.com or the
> Netscape(R) portal ( www.netscape.com ).

I couldn't find a list of dialup numbers. While Netscape has a good
name, I wouldn't sign up without knowing they offer local access
where I live. This looks like they have a couple bugs to work out in
their marketing presentation.

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: My First Phone (was Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:13:59 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


(Much snippage...)

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting how you mention your very
> own first telephone. I first got subscribed under my own name back in
> 1960, when I moved out from living with Mommie Dearest to my own
> little place in Hyde Park (the U of C neighborhood on the south side
> of Chicago.) The monthly bill was around six or seven dollars and my
> roomate and I agreed to split the bill but each be responsible for
> our own long distance charges and or telegrams which were sent by
> phone. Illinois Bell did not ask for deposits, or run credit checks,
> etc. You simply called them one day and they came out the next day to
> put the phone in. They trusted you to pay the bill when it arrived.

> We decided on a green 'palmolive' color rotary dial phone and since
> we lived in an apartment-hotel with a switchboard the phone man put in
> a phone with a turn-button: one side of the turn button was the switch-
> board phone (DOrchester 3-7500), the other side of the turn button
> was our private phone (HYDe Park 3-3714). We did have a bell-chime
> device to ring the phone (it sounded like a doorbell) and we had to
> pay fifty-cents per month for that side ringer. Touch tone was not
> available.  ESS features were still ten years distant for the
> downtown Chicago area and fifteen years distant for the other areas of
> Chicago.    PAT]

When I ordered My First Telephone the Business Office customer service
representative finally got to the question about color.  Somehow I was
evidently thinking of television and responded that I'd like "a black
and white set".  Well -- that clearly touched a raw nerve for this
Lily Tomlin-like CSR.  She spent several minutes explaining to me that
this was the TELEPHONE and should not be compared to other services I
might use and that two-tone telephone sets were not available and
would I prefer a BLACK set or one of the half-dozen colors they
offered?  Feeling sufficiently chastised, I asked for plain black and
we went on with the ordering process.  Hoping to save a much money as
possible I selected a rotary dial and no extensions!

Them were the days!


Al

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There were a lot of Lilly Tomlin-like
service reps in those days. But truth be told, telco employees got a
lot of grief from the customers also. Somewhere around, I have a sort
of ragged, torn up copy of a 1923 directory from Chicago Telephone
Company. I think it was the last year of Chicago Telephone, before
they were bought out by the Bell consortium and changed into Illinois
Bell. On the front cover down in the corner was a little announcement
saying, 'Our subscribers are requested to speak in the same courteous,
non-abusive way to our operators which they expect to hear in return.
Would you want our operators to curse at you? It is not their fault
if a line is engaged when you try to reach it.'

And that was altogether too common: A rude, crude person (usually a 
man but not always) would ask for a number that historically was
always busy -- such as the train or bus station information line -- 
and upon being told for the umpteenth time that 'the lion is busy'
and respond with a string of curse words in the operator's ear, as if
she could have corrected the problem had she been competent and not
too lazy to do so. And anytime an operator or customer service rep
cursed at a subscriber -- and they sometimes lost their 'cool' and 
did so, chances are likely they were fired on the spot.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Pete Romfh <spamblocked@yourISP.com>
Subject: Touchtone Accuracy Tests
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:46:27 -0600
Organization: Not Organized


As part of evaluating some proposed systems I need to find a simple
way to verify that DTMF is passed accurately over various parts of a
TDM/VoIP network. Obviously I could dial a series of extensions and
verify they are reached but I'm looking for something like the old CO
test number where you could call in, hit digits 1 through 0 and get a
couple of beeps or the dialed digits read) back.

Failing that, is there an inexpensive test set that will give me some
quantifiable test results?

I'm open to creative ideas.


Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
promfh at Texas dot net


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Check Mike Sandman's catalog online at
http://www.sandman.com .  He sells a device which prints out with LED
the digits that are heard.   PAT]

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From: desiv <desiv@attbi.com>
Subject: Caller ID and Spying???
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:53:58 GMT


OK, being the tech in the family, I get an email from my mom.

Her friend is freaked out.  Her friend has CallWave.

She was online when my mom called, but here's the thing ...

For the phone number, it shows my mom's number.  BUT for the name, it
shows someone else's name!!!

Now, this is the first time she's seen it with this other name, so
she's freaked out.  (She even took pics of the screen with her
digicam..)

Now, here's where I get concerned ... The "other person" is involved in a
messy divorce with my sister.  (I'm not taking sides, just stating
facts) ... and ...

The "other person" works for a security company.  Surveillance type
stuff ...

My first reaction, knowing a little (just a little) about Caller ID
was that ... that shouldn't happen.

My mom's number and someone else's name.

As far as I know, Caller ID is data sent over the phone line from the
phone company.  When my mom called this lady, QWest detects that this
woman is on the phone, and forwards the call and ANI info to Callwave.
They (Callwave) then sends it to this woman's PC.  So, if this my mom
calls, it should be her number AND name.  If this other person called,
it should be his number and name.

But how is it my mom's number and his name?

Now, I'm not asking how HE did it (if he did) ... What I want to know
is how would that be possible???

Something like call forwarding or transferring??  Some way someone
could monitor phone calls???

I do computer networking, not telco, so I'm not "up" on this stuff ...
I told my mom that even tho I was a tech, I wasn't a phreak.  Or even
someone who uses this stuff enough to know.  I don't even have a home
phone. :-) Cable modem ...

Any ideas on what it might be?  What they should look for?

She called QWest and they confirmed his name is not on the account and
hasn't ever been ...

Thanx in advance.

signed,

confused  ...

P.S.  I've read abit more about Caller ID since..  Apparently QWest
would have sent the number to Callwave, and they would have checked a
database to get the name???  (right?)

So, it could be that the database they checked happens to have this
other name. Still weird and a heck of a coincidence if it is.

------------------------------

From: Sam Nickerson <snicker2112shoes@yahoo.com>
Subject: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:14:42 GMT


Just a quick warning to anyone thinking about going Vonage for the
"Virtual Number" feature. I am a new customer to them; jumped on board
because of the virtual number idea. 

I have a mother in Florida living on a fixed income and it would help
her alot to be able to call me when she needs to. After getting set up
and generating a virtual number, mom in Florida at the same area code
could not make a non-toll call. I called Vonage customer no care and
they said the prefix generated was not in her calling region ... sorry. 

Was there any way for them to refund the 14 bucks I
spent on a useless number ... nope. But they did give me a list of
prefixes that would work for her, and that all I need to do was
generate another and look at the number before final submit and I
would not get charged, just hit back and try another until a working
number magically appears and hit submit to accept it. Tried that, then
found the generated number does not show prior to submit and I get hit
with another 14 bucks charge. 28 bucks of worthless numbers I, and
mom, can not use. 

Called Vonage Customer no care again, guy says sorry, let me put a
credit against your account for the 14 bucks so you can try again at
no charge. Thru the dice again, no good. Well sorry sir, guess we don't
have numbers in her local area; nothing I can do about the 28 bucks you
have spent so far, no managers around that can help, send us an email
and they will review.  

Sheeeesh, for a company looking to break into an emerging market you
would think they would handle customers better, their marketing group
is spending a lot of time, money and effort only to have customer no
care mess it up.  Just my experience; your mileage may vary. 

Sam

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, Sam, I am really sorry to hear
about your bad experience with Vonage thus far.  But if you do send
a copy of the same letter you sent here to them, they will in fact
read it, and very likely help you out. My other suggestion at this 
point would be to select (from among the various Florida area codes
and prefixes on display in the drop down menus) a number that, even
if not absolutely local to your mom is in some sort of 'extended' 
area that she could call for 'almost' nothing extra. In fact, since I
am a user of Vonage with fairly good standing with them, include this
note from me when you email Vonage, and ask their personal assistance
in resolving the matter. I feel certain they will resolve it in a
favorable way to you. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: 9 Jan 2004 07:44:48 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Netscape Launches Low-Cost Internet Access Service
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> I couldn't find a list of dialup numbers. While Netscape has a good
> name, I wouldn't sign up without knowing they offer local access
> where I live. This looks like they have a couple bugs to work out in
> their marketing presentation.

It's AOL, it's the same enormous list of dialups.

------------------------------

Reply-To: BMN <not@valid.ca>
From: BMN <not@valid.ca>
Subject: AT&T High Speed Service Question
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:06:32 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Anyone have any experience with AT&T high speed service. I have a corp
client that has a bill for approx $5K monthly for a data service which
looks as though it is connecting two sites. There are no other details
on the bill and it seems very expensive, even for a private line. Site
A is in Indiana and Site B is in Wisconsin.

Site A is $3500 with a $1400 credit and B is $5000 with a $2000
credit, but no other info. Further investigation with the CSR and the
client will tell me, but this is the second time I have seen one of
these inexplicable AT&T high speed service bills. The last one tuned
out to be some FR services. But the amounts on this bill are
astronomical.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:57:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: One-Stop Shopping Approach to HDTV


By ERIC A. TAUB

The satellite retransmission industry hopes to push the popularity of
high-definition television by taking a page from the shopping mall
playbook.

On Jan. 1, PanAmSat, a satellite operator that beams programming to
local cable operators for transmission to their customers, switched
many of its HDTV channels to a new satellite that the company is
positioning into something it calls an HDTV neighborhood.

Trading on a successful marketing approach used for analog television 
since the 1980's, the company, which is owned primarily by Hughes 
Electronics, says it thinks that cable operators will be more likely 
to offer HDTV programming if they, like shoppers who go to a mall, 
can find the good things all in one place.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/business/media/05sat.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:49:28 GMT
Subject: Norvergence
From: N-Line@juno.com


Patrick,

You seem to have the most insight to this company. (From looking at
forums.)  They've approached us with their "service" and I'm in the
process of trying to figure out if they are reputable.

Can you help?

Chad

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would suggest two things: one, look
and scan through our back issues file for December just past and 
read some of the messages there, none of which are very favorable. I
also suggest you wait a day or two while this inquiry from you makes
the rounds on comp.dcom.telecom (and other participating newsgroups)
and see if some of the readers wake up and respond to you directly;
again, the most recent replies were not very favorable from Norvergence's
point of view. The company seems rather litigous, or anxious to sue
anyone who gives them a bum rap. For instance, they threatened to sue
me if I did not remove the most disparaging messages about them from
our archives. I did not remove the messages, but its not that they did
not try to make me (short of suit), including an inquiry they made of
MIT's legal counsel. I'd review their contract they'll ask you to sign
as a condition of getting the 'Matrix box' **very carefully** and
let's see if any readers write you direct with responses.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Eworldwire <info@eworldwire.com>
Subject: Maverick Wireless Corporation Launches City-Wide Wireless Services
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:33:53 -0500


Maverick Wireless Corporation Successfully Launches
City-Wide Wireless Broadband Services

Maverick Wireless Proves Its CITYWIDE WiFi(TM) Services Are
the Answer to Rural America's Broadband Needs

BOTHELL, Wash/EWORLDWIRE/Jan. 9, 2004 --- Maverick Wireless
Corporation today announced the successful launch of its CITYWIDE
WiFi(TM) services in Benton County, Washington. It is the first
community in the United States to enjoy what Maverick Wireless
proclaims will be commonplace throughout the nation.

"Recent technological advances and the international adoption of
wireless broadband standards have made the viability of city-wide
wireless broadband services a reality. The technology is now at a
point where skilled wireless broadband service providers can offer
their services across entire cities and even address the needs of
communities that do not have access to traditional broadband options,"
David Schmelke, President and founder of Maverick Wireless
Corporation.

"Broadband is essential to the economic growth of our community and
making it available throughout the county is among our highest
priorities. The experts at Maverick Wireless are without a doubt the
best at what they do and they have been an important part of our
success," said a Benton PUD Representative.

According to Mr. Schmelke, it is up to wireless experts to lead the
charge into this new era of broadband. Schmelke, the former Director
of Wireless Data at T-Mobile, USA, says that the successful
commercialization of city-wide WiFi networks depend entirely on the
wireless expertise and the abilities of the service providers to
design, deploy, and support their customers.

"The successful deployment of a carrier grade, community-wide WiFi
network is as complex a challenge as one can imagine. The reason we're
emerging as a leading authority on this subject is because of our deep
rooted wireless knowledge. Benton County's successful launch is our
proof that we understand the technology, the unique challenges
surrounding such a deployment, and how to successfully overcome those
challenges," says Schmelke.

He adds, "Contrary to the belief of many traditional Internet Service
Providers, you can't simply throw up towers and have a robust network
that is truly ready for subscribers."

Maverick's CITYWIDE WiFi(TM) network in Benton County covers an area
of 40 square miles. Subscribers enjoy the freedom of accessing the
Internet at broadband speeds anytime, from anywhere within the wide
area network.  CITYWIDE WiFi(TM) monthly rate plans range from $19.95
for a 128Kbps account to $49.95 for a 1Mbps account. To address
security concerns the service also boasts 256bit encryption, user
authentication, and certificate-based protection. Skilled sales,
installation, customer care and technical support representatives are
available to ensure that the service is easy to use.

Gayle Cook, a CITYWIDE WiFi(TM) Subscriber states, "Maverick Wireless
provided one of the best sales and service experiences I've ever
had. The people at Maverick helped me understand the advantages of
wireless broadband and they helped me select the best CITYWIDE
WiFi(TM) service plan for my needs. I couldn't be happier with my
decision to use their services."

About Maverick Wireless Corporation 

Maverick Wireless Corporation is a leading authority on community-wide
wireless broadband services. Founded by the former Director of
Wireless Data at T-Mobile, USA, Maverick is a privately held wireless
services corporation based in Bothell, Washington. For more
information on CITYWIDE WiFi(TM) Services from Maverick Wireless
Corporation, please visit www.citywidewifi.com

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CONTACT:
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Maverick Wireless Corporation 
Bothell, WA 
PHONE. (425) 444-2945
EMAIL: dedamm@maverickwireless.com
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WEBSITES: http://www.maverickwireless.com,
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Reply-To: <brett.nelson@schooleymitchell.com>
From: Brett M Nelson <brett.nelson@schooleymitchell.com>
Subject: Posting FAQ
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:43:50 -0500


Is there an FAQ about posting to the newsgroup? My posts aren't going
through and would like to know if I am not following a required
format.

Regards,

Brett Nelson
Corporate Head Office

Associate Director
Consultant Development
Schooley Mitchell Telecom Consultants
211 Ontario Street
Stratford, Ontario
N5A 3H3
main number (519)275-3339
auto-attendant (519)273-5163 x223
facsimile (519)273-5331
<http://www.schooleymitchell.com>


[TELECOM Digest Editor's  Note: I answered this gentleman in email
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    FBI, Justice Dept. Seek Wiretaps For VoIP (Marcus Didius Falco)
    "Talibanism in Technology" (Marcus Didius Falco)
    Casino Chips to Carry RFID Tags (Monty Solomon)
    The Click Heard Round The World (Monty Solomon)
    C-Band TX'er In PCI Form Factor (Chay)
    Re: Caller ID and Spying??? (Ray Normandeau)
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:41:51 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: FBI, Justice Dept. Seek Wiretaps For VoIP


X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/

http://news.com.com/2100-7352-5137344.html

Feds seek wiretap access via VoIP
Last modified: January 8, 2004, 7:42 AM PST
By Declan McCullagh

The FBI and the Justice Department have renewed their efforts to
wiretap voice conversations carried across the Internet.

The agencies have asked the Federal Communications Commission to order
companies offering voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) service to
rewire their networks to guarantee police the ability to eavesdrop on
subscribers' conversations.

Without such mandatory rules, the two agencies predicted in a letter
to the FCC last month that "criminals, terrorists, and spies (could)
use VoIP services to avoid lawfully authorized surveillance." The
letter also was signed by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

[...]

One unusual section of the FBI letter is that it claims the bureau is
seeking to protect Americans' privacy rights: "Mandatory CALEA
compliance by VoIP providers would better protect the privacy of VoIP
users than a voluntary approach. CALEA protects the privacy of
surveillance suspects by requiring carriers to provision the
surveillance in a confidential manner." Otherwise, the FBI argues, a
VoIP company might turn over a "full pipe" to police that would
include conversations of more people than necessary.

[...]


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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:47:33 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: "Talibanism in Technology"


From: K.Ellis
To: David Farber
Sent: Jan 10, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: "Talibanism in Technology"

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:48:52 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Casino Chips to Carry RFID Tags


11:48 09 January 04
New Scientist

When rumours surfaced in 2003 that the European Central Bank was
quietly planning to put RFID (radio frequency identification) tags in
euro banknotes to combat fraud and money laundering, privacy groups
balked at the possibility that anybody with an RFID reader could count
the money in wallets of passers by.

While the rumours have not been confirmed or denied a new generation
of casino chips with built-in RFID tags is giving an insight into the
way banks and shops could keep track of real money if it were
tagged. The chips will be launched later in 2004 and will allow casino
operators to spot counterfeits and thefts, and also to monitor the
behaviour of gamblers.

RFID tags are tiny silicon chips that broadcast a unique
identification code when prompted by a reader device. The tags do not
need batteries, since they simply modify the radio signal fired at
them by the reader. The readers work over distances ranging from a few
centimetres to a few dozen metres, depending on the type of tag.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994542

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:04:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Click Heard Round The World


The Click Heard Round The World

It was December 1968. An obscure scientist from Stanford Research
Institute stood before a hushed San Francisco crowd and blew every
mind in the room. His 90-minute demo rolled out virtually all that
would come to define modern computing: videoconferencing, hyperlinks,
networked collaboration, digital text editing, and something called a
"mouse." Doug Engelbart tells writer Ken Jordan what it felt like to
launch the point-and-click revolution 15 years before the Mac.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.01/mouse.html

------------------------------

From: Chay <caatalyst@comcast.net>
Subject: C-Band TX'er In PCI Form Factor
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:51:22 -0500


Looking for a transmitter for C-Band frequencies in PCI form factor.
For DVB/IP two way internet access.
Similiar to those used by Gilat and Web-Sat.
Anyone know of any?

------------------------------

From: rayta@msn.com (Ray Normandeau)
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Date: 10 Jan 2004 11:51:31 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


desiv <desiv@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.14.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> For the phone number, it shows my mom's number.  BUT for the name, it
> shows someone else's name!!!

It is almost AS IF your mom's outgoing calls were being routed thru
someone else who was passing thru the Caller ID but goofed up on the
name.

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jan 2004 05:45:01 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> I have a mother in Florida living on a fixed income and it would help
> her alot to be able to call me when she needs to. After getting set
> up and generating a virtual number, mom in Florida at the same area
> code could not make a non-toll call. I called Vonage customer no care
> and they said the prefix generated was not in her calling region
> ... sorry.

When you get a Vonage number, you can specify the exact rate center
where you want the number.  For example, if you pick 954, then you can
pick Coral Springs, Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, or Pompano Beach.  It
is not exactly a state secret that local calling areas have nothing to
do with area code boundaries, but are a list of rate centers.

I got a virtual number last week so my sister in Vermont could call me
as a local call, and it took about 10 seconds to look through the list
of Vermont rate centers to find one local to her.

If you and your mother can't figure out what's a local call for her,
visit http://members.dandy.net/~czg/search.html which has an extensive
data base of local calling area information.


Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

------------------------------

From: Joe@nospancity.com
Subject: Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:59:18 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Sam Nickerson wrote:

> Just a quick warning to anyone thinking about going Vonage for the
> "Virtual Number" feature. I am a new customer to them; jumped on board
> because of the virtual number idea.

> I have a mother in Florida living on a fixed income and it would help
> her alot to be able to call me when she needs to. After getting set up
> and generating a virtual number, mom in Florida at the same area code
> could not make a non-toll call. I called Vonage customer no care and
> they said the prefix generated was not in her calling region ... sorry.

> Was there any way for them to refund the 14 bucks I
> spent on a useless number ... nope. But they did give me a list of
> prefixes that would work for her, and that all I need to do was
> generate another and look at the number before final submit and I
> would not get charged, just hit back and try another until a working
> number magically appears and hit submit to accept it. Tried that, then
> found the generated number does not show prior to submit and I get hit
> with another 14 bucks charge. 28 bucks of worthless numbers I, and
> mom, can not use.

> Called Vonage Customer no care again, guy says sorry, let me put a
> credit against your account for the 14 bucks so you can try again at
> no charge. Thru the dice again, no good. Well sorry sir, guess we don't
> have numbers in her local area; nothing I can do about the 28 bucks you
> have spent so far, no managers around that can help, send us an email
> and they will review.

> Sheeeesh, for a company looking to break into an emerging market you
> would think they would handle customers better, their marketing group
> is spending a lot of time, money and effort only to have customer no
> care mess it up.  Just my experience; your mileage may vary.

> Sam

I think the problem may be with you and your mother.  In my part of
California when I selected Area Code 949, it gives me the option of
selecting one of four locations.  Those locations have exactly the
same name as the SBC exchanges in the 949 area code.

What could be simpler?  Sure, either you or your mother has to figure
out which of the listed exchanges, if any, are a local call for her.
But, that can easily be done before you hit "go."

------------------------------

From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Maverick Wireless Corporation Launches City-Wide WISP
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:41:18 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.14.7@telecom-digest.org> Eworldwire
<info@eworldwire.com> writes:

> Maverick Wireless Corporation Successfully Launches
> City-Wide Wireless Broadband Services

> Maverick Wireless Proves Its CITYWIDE WiFi(TM) Services Are
> the Answer to Rural America's Broadband Needs

[ snip of the usual press release boilerplate ]

A key problem here is that this company is asking customers to pay $20
(or more) per month for access to the network. Which is, perhaps, a
realistic business model. Except for one little point:

	This company, like the vast majority of others, is using
	the *publicly available* 802.11 frequencies. There is *no*
	exclusivity on these channels.

	So, anyone else in the service area can (and many will ...)
	set up their own base stations and networks, and cause
	lots and lots of interference.

This company (and the others) have no bumping privileges whatsoever on 
these frequencies.

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 10 Jan 2004 15:46:33 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Verizon DSL - Idiots


I wanted to install DSL (Cable company finally pissed me off enough
that I went to the local office, threw my cable box on the desk and
told them to shove their crappy service. It's Cox btw.) but Verizon
droids tell me it's not available, that I'm close to 5 miles from the
CO.

Now I know for a fact that I'm nowhere near 5 miles from the CO. More
like a mile maximum. So I went on their web site and sure enough I get
the 'future notification' page. I plug in the phone number of the
restaurant below me which is served on the same cable group, same CO
and guess what, it's available.

Time to call the morons back. 

Tony

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 10 Jan 2004 15:44:27 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Verizon RI Pricing


Well -- looks like Verizon has caught on. 

Residential for $54 a month includes VM, CLID and a raft of other
features. I just might bite because in a given month my phone bills
add up to about $54 as it is now, but they do range a bit. Having a
fixed cost might be nice.

I note business is $38 but there's a little disclaimer about "Excludes line
charge". Typical Verizon -- so the line charge is probably about $15 but it
makes it somewhat cheaper than Vonage especially when you consider the
broadband connection charges. 

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    Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots (Charles P.)
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    Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot (Sam Nickerson)
    Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:53:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: Charles P. <charles@NOSPAMtelephonesecurity.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Organization: Optimum Online


I had Verizon tell one customer they couldn't do it, even though their
neighbor had it. They then called Earthlink who said no problem and
put it in on Verizon's wires.

cp

Kilo Delta One Sierra <kd1s@aol.comremvthis> wrote in message
news:telecom23.15.10@telecom-digest.org ...

> I wanted to install DSL (Cable company finally pissed me off enough
> that I went to the local office, threw my cable box on the desk and
> told them to shove their crappy service. It's Cox btw.) but Verizon
> droids tell me it's not available, that I'm close to 5 miles from the
> CO.

> Now I know for a fact that I'm nowhere near 5 miles from the CO. More
> like a mile maximum. So I went on their web site and sure enough I get
> the 'future notification' page. I plug in the phone number of the
> restaurant below me which is served on the same cable group, same CO
> and guess what, it's available.

> Time to call the morons back.

> Tony

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:57:29 -0600


Kilo Delta One Sierra <kd1s@aol.comremvthis> wrote:

> I wanted to install DSL (Cable company finally pissed me off enough
> that I went to the local office, threw my cable box on the desk and
> told them to shove their crappy service. It's Cox btw.) but Verizon
> droids tell me it's not available, that I'm close to 5 miles from the
> CO.

Telco droids are idiots. Upper-level repair techs are usually clued,
but the front-level people are stupid. What did you expect from a
phone company?

(And Verizon's not as bad as the other ILECs, in my opinion!)


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * sjsobol@JustThe.net

------------------------------

From: Joe@nospancity.com
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:03:12 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


If the web site tests the line and says it's eligible why not place
the order on-line so you don't have to deal with the "morons."

Kilo Delta One Sierra wrote:

> I wanted to install DSL (Cable company finally pissed me off enough
> that I went to the local office, threw my cable box on the desk and
> told them to shove their crappy service. It's Cox btw.) but Verizon
> droids tell me it's not available, that I'm close to 5 miles from the
> CO.

> Now I know for a fact that I'm nowhere near 5 miles from the CO. More
> like a mile maximum. So I went on their web site and sure enough I get
> the 'future notification' page. I plug in the phone number of the
> restaurant below me which is served on the same cable group, same CO
> and guess what, it's available.

> Time to call the morons back.

> Tony

------------------------------

From: Sam Nickerson <snicker2112shoes@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 06:31:31 GMT


On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:59:18 -0800, Joe wrote:

> Sam Nickerson wrote:

>> Just a quick warning to anyone thinking about going Vonage for the
>> "Virtual Number" feature. I am a new customer to them; jumped on board
>> because of the virtual number idea.

>> I have a mother in Florida living on a fixed income and it would help
>> her alot to be able to call me when she needs to. After getting set up
>> and generating a virtual number, mom in Florida at the same area code
>> could not make a non-toll call. I called Vonage customer no care and
>> they said the prefix generated was not in her calling region ... sorry.

>> Was there any way for them to refund the 14 bucks I
>> spent on a useless number ... nope. But they did give me a list of
>> prefixes that would work for her, and that all I need to do was
>> generate another and look at the number before final submit and I
>> would not get charged, just hit back and try another until a working
>> number magically appears and hit submit to accept it. Tried that, then
>> found the generated number does not show prior to submit and I get hit
>> with another 14 bucks charge. 28 bucks of worthless numbers I, and
>> mom, can not use.

>> Called Vonage Customer no care again, guy says sorry, let me put a
>> credit against your account for the 14 bucks so you can try again at
>> no charge. Thru the dice again, no good. Well sorry sir, guess we don't
>> have numbers in her local area; nothing I can do about the 28 bucks you
>> have spent so far, no managers around that can help, send us an email
>> and they will review.

>> Sheeeesh, for a company looking to break into an emerging market you
>> would think they would handle customers better, their marketing group
>> is spending a lot of time, money and effort only to have customer no
>> care mess it up.  Just my experience; your mileage may vary.

>> Sam

> I think the problem may be with you and your mother.  In my part of
> California when I selected Area Code 949, it gives me the option of
> selecting one of four locations.  Those locations have exactly the
> same name as the SBC exchanges in the 949 area code.

> What could be simpler?  Sure, either you or your mother has to figure
> out which of the listed exchanges, if any, are a local call for her.
> But, that can easily be done before you hit "go."

Perhaps you don't get out much, perhaps English is not your first
language, in either case I forgive your misinterpretation of my
post. As posted Vonage Technical Support was not able to discern a
correct exchange, so how should a customer? Not all areas of the
U.S. are as over populated and well defined as the California region,
and the majority of this country lies outside of California. Per
Vonage Tech support you take a throw of the dice, get charged against
your credit card, and hope for a prefix in the desired area.  

Whoa dude surfs up, 

Sam

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:47:38 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> I have a mother in Florida living on a fixed income and it would help
> her alot to be able to call me when she needs to. After getting set up

If you call the business office, you can probably get a business
number in any exchange you want, and then have it forward anywhere you
want.

Should be about $25/month, plus usage.

-Joel

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yeah, but if he did that, why not just
get an 800 number -- much cheaper -- for mom's use in calling him
using Bell all the way. In that case, a long haul via Bell from mom to
him would be much cheaper that a combination of 'extended toll' for 
mom and a Vonage virtual number for himself.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: tvargas@networld.com (Tvargas)
Subject: NEC and Centigram
Date: 11 Jan 2004 11:27:29 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Has anyone ever integrated a NEC 2000 IVS system to a Centigram Model
70 Voicemail system? If so, how was your template configured?

------------------------------

From: Rupa Schomaker <rupa+usenet@rupa.com>
Subject: Re: Siemens Gigabit 2420/8825 Voicemail Question
Date: 11 Jan 2004 12:13:38 -0600


sf@mnetsys.com (Steve Fitzgerald) writes:

> Does anyone know if on the 2420 or 8825 it is possible to disable the
> answering machine on only one of the lines? I have two lines and only
> want the answering machine to answer one of the them. The other line
> has dedicated voicemail service off-site.

Don't know about the 2420.  My 8825 allows you to configure answering
machine, auto attendant, etc for each line independently.

Now if I could just get it to detect when the other end hangs up on my
Vonage line.  For now I limit the message length to 1 min and have to
suffer up to 1 min of "off hook notification beeps" ...

> Thanks.

-rupa

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mike Sandman ( http://www.sandman.com )
and I did some testing on this recently. Unfortunatly, Vonage does not
do call supervision if that is a critical point with you.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:15:20 -0800
From: DC <dcoffey@firedept.net>
Subject: Trouble Getting Into Archives


I would like to look at vol 15, issue 362 but there seems to be a
problem getting into that directory. It just hangs when I click on
that directory.

Is there something wrong?

Thank You,

Darold Coffey

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I sent a copy of Vol15_#362 to Mr.
Coffey today. Anyone who wants something from the archives and for
whatever reason gets hung up or has trouble finding what they want
is welcome to ask for help in getting it.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Bob Goudreau <omitted at reader's request>
Subject: More on NANP Numbering Compared to Europe
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:49:16 -0500


[Patrick, it occurs to me that I never received the usual
auto-acknowledgement to the message I submitted several days ago, so it
apparently never made it.  Here's another attempt.]

[Please continue to omit my email address too.]
 

Earle Robinson writes:


> While the UK did fumble its modernization of the telephone numbering 
> system, this didn't occur in the rest of Europe.

Er, actually if you'll check the WTNG, you'll see quite a lot of
examples of European numbering plans that endured wholesale changes
over the past couple of decades (adding digits, rearranging entire
area code schemes, etc.)  It's not just a UK thing by any means.
Greece, Italy, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, etc.  Not to mention
France ...

> My number in Paris has remained the same for 20 years now. 

Was it the early 1980s that Paris changed from 7D to 8D numbers?  Of
course, from a dialing perspective, your number has only remained
unchanged to those callers who were outside of France, who have been
able to dial you as +33 1 AB CD EF GH for that entire period.  Inside
France, the dialing of your number (and every other POTS number) has
certainly changed in that time.  You used to be dialable as AB CD EF
GH from within the Paris region (+33 1), and as <access-code> AB CD EF
GH from the rest of the country, IIRC.  (Wasn't the access code
something like 16-1 or 19-1?)  But now you are reachable as 01 AB CD
EF GH from everywhere in the country.
 
> Friends of mine in the states

> have endured 3, 4 or more area code changes during this time.

I think you'll find that the number of people living in areas that
have undergone that many NPA splits is proportionally very tiny
compared to the number who have undergone no changes at all.  (Mark &
Co., are there actually *any* areas at all that have undergone *four*
splits since 1984?  PAT complained about having four area codes over
the years, but bear in mind that he moved to different cities at least
a couple of times, which isn't at all the same as having your number
change due to an area code split.)  Of course *most* of France had to
change its numbers during the past decade; the entire "rest of the
country" outside the Paris (+33 1) region had their numbers lengthened
by prefixing an area code to their existing numbers (+33 AB CD EF GH
became +33 X AB CD EF GH).  I.e., their numbers changed from
everyone's perspective (international and intranational).

> In the USA the dialing system is also very confusing. In some areas 
> you dial 7 digits for a local call, in others 10, and in others 11.

> Why?

In Europe, the dialing system is even more confusing.  In some areas
you dial 5 digits for a local call, in others 6, in others 7, in
others 8, in others 9 or 10.

 
> Mr. Cuccia also praises and repraises the "free" local calls in much
> of the states. However, he omits a couple of salient points.  First,
> one pays much more monthly for a telephone line in the states than
> here in France.

What does monthly service for a POTS line from FT cost these days (including
any fees/taxes)?  I thought it was in the EUR 15 range, which is certainly
comparable with many areas of the US.  (Canada tends to be slightly
cheaper.)
 

Regards,  

Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not remember the *exact* order of
things from back when I was living in Chicago but let us take a 
hypothetical person living in Evanston/Skokie, IL for thirty years or
so.  They began with 312 for all of northern Illinois. Then they
went to 708 when all suburbs were split away from Chicago. Then they 
would have gone to 847 when the northern suburbs were split away from
the southern/western suburbs. Now they have gone to 224 when the
northeastern suburbs were split away from the northwestern suburbs. 
That would appear to be four potential area code splits in a bit over
twenty years wouldn't it?  Yes, I did move from Chicago to Skokie but
I got 312/773 even though I was gone from the area before 847/224 took
place. I am talking now about the hypothetical person who never moved
out of the same house in Evanston for 20 plus years, of which there 
have been many folks. Or, let's take Northwestern University, which
has been in the same spot for more than a century:  312 --> 708 -->
847 --> 224.      PAT]

------------------------------

From: Ronda Hauben <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: Re: BBC Writer Fathoms the Internet Pretty Well
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 03:40:07 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


Mark Crispin <MRC@cac.washington.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Ronda Hauben wrote:

>> Are you saying that the ARPANET is the same as the IMP subnetwork
>> of the ARPANET? The whole point of the IMP subnetwork is to connect
>> diverse computers and diverse operating systems. The ARPANET is the
>> connection of these diverse computers and operating systems. It isn't
>> the IMP subnetwork. The IMP subnetwork is the means of connecting the
>> diverse computers, but is *not* the ARPANET.

> Ronda, were you a user of the ARPAnet in its halcyon days (1970-1982)?

> I was.  I implemented the first 96-bit leader (32-bit address) ARPAnet
> NCP for the PDP-10 in 1978.  I was very much part of the TCP/IP
> transition in 1983, and the subsequent ARPAnet/Milnet split.  I wrote
> some of the earliest implementations of Telnet and SMTP.  I even wrote
> an EGP.

I know you were Mark, as I have written you several years ago based on
my research on TCP/IP digest and other early Internet documentation.

And I wrote some about how you spoke out with regard to issues you
disagreed about on the tcp/ip digest.

That you now complain when I speak out about issues that are a problem
is a bit of a surprise.

I am glad that there are people like you online who were involved with
the early development of the ARPANET. But then I would hope you would
be helpful in spreading accurate knowledge about the technical
developments.

To ask if I was online then isn't quite relevant, is it?

I have read many of the documents and been in contact with many who
were online then.

And I hav2 done substantial research both by being in contact with
people who were there and by researching the documents created at the
time. I an co-author of one of the early books about the history and
development of the ARPANET, Usenet and the Internet.

The book was written on the basis of help from people who had been
involved in the early developments of the Net.

> I have never heard the term "IMP subnetwork" used.

I don't understand the point of your saying this?

Whether or not you have heard of it, it has been used. I didn't make
it up. If you were interested in helping to sort this out you might
take a look back at some of the RFC's that a short search on google
shows used the term "IMP subnetwork."

A short search turns up:

RFC 687 by David C. Walden from June 1975
NIC #32654

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc687.html

RFC 410 by John M. McQuillan 10 November 1970

http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc410.html

RFC 528 by J.  McQuillan 20 June 1973 
NIC: 17164                                                  

http://rfc-528.rfc-search.org/

RFC 533 by  David Walden July 17, 1973
NIC: 17452 

So though you may not have noticed "IMP subnetwork" in those RFC's, it
has been a term used and it expresses a helpful concept.

> Nor have I ever heard of this strange case which you seem to be making.

> The notion that the wires of an LH or DH connection are part of a
> "network" is rather, uh, strange to anyone who actually dealt with it
> on an electrical basis.  A better case may be made for a VDH
> interface, but that in turn was more of a point-to-point network.
> So is the notion that the hosts on the ARPAnet were part of the
> network.  It's akin to saying that a human user of a telephone is
> "part of the telephone network."

Mark, are you saying that the telephone isn't part of the telephone
network?

It is important that people have some understanding of the technology.

Do you disagree?

The hosts are more akin to the telephone. They were the different
computers and different operating systems that were part of the
ARPANET. This is more akin to the telephone being part of the
telephone network, than to refer to the human telephone user or human
computer user.

The question whether the human telephone user or the human computer
user is part of their respective networks is a serious question, but
doesn't seem relevant to trying to clarify whether the ARPANET was
made up of both the IMPs and HOSTs and whether the telephone network
is made up of the switching network and the phones that make the
communication possible.
 
> The notion that the only important difference between ARPAnet and
> Internet is that "Internet made it possible to connect different
> networks, not just different computers" is laughable to anyone who was
> actually there.

Are you stressing "only" here?

I am stressing that an "important difference" between them is that the
ARPANET connected different operating systems and different computer
systems, and the Internet connected different networks.

I wasn't focusing on whether there is only one important difference or
more.

To say "laughable" doesn't help to clarify anything. Instead it can
serve to intimidate any disagreement.
 
Similarly to refer to anyone "who was actually there" as the being
the deciding factor, is not helpful.

There will in the not too distant future be no one who was "actually
there" to refer to.

It is important that knowledge of these developments be made available
to those who weren't there.

That is why I took the trouble to comment on the BBC reporter's
article, as it didn't help clarify, but only spread sand in the eyes
of anyone trying to understand the ARPANET and Internet.

> In conclusion, I will echo John Levine:

>> These facts are well known and easily checked by anyone who cares to
>> do so, and you only make yourself look foolish by trying to argue

>> do so, and you only make yourself look foolish by trying to argue
>> that the situation was and is otherwise.

If these facts are easily checked, I wondered why neither you nor John
tried to look up "IMP subnetwork" instead of insisting it is a phantom
term.

>> I have no interest in arguing about facts, so this is my last
>> message on this topic.

> -- Mark --

That is your perogative of course.

It is the 10th anniversary this weekend of Michael and I putting the
online book "Netizens" online.

We worked on the book and put it online because we felt it was
important to spread an understanding of the history and impact of the
Net as it seemed it was not understood by many online who were
enthralled by what it made possible, but had no idea where it had come
from.

The book was an early history of the Net and explored its potential
impact.

Michael, particularly, and I had been encouraged by many online at
the time to do our work and we got help from many online.

Michael still continues to get numerous emails that say that people
have found his work very helpful to them, especially the chapters of
Netizens that he had done about the creation of the ARPANET.

Based on this work, many other efforts to write about the history
were begun.

So it is sad to see the state of the situation now, where when one
makes an effort to clarify a misrepresentation that a BBC reporter
makes which is being spread via the powerful distribution mechanisms
of the BBC and also online, that there is an attack on the effort to
make the clarification. How can the BBC reporter care to try to
understand the ARPANET and Internet if there isn't an effort to
correct misrepresentations.

The IMP subnetwork was not the ARPA network (as the ARPANET was
sometimes called before the creation of the Internet). The ARPANET is
the interconnection of different computers and operating systems and
the IMP subnetwork.

The Internet was the interconnection of diverse networks, or a network
of networks (or a metasystem of networks).

Usenet is about disagreements, so hopefully it can help to have
discussion over the differences.

I wrote a paper on the tcp/ip digest where I refer to the role you
played there Mark. It was a very helpful role.  It is online at:

A Study of the ARPANET TCP/IP Digest and of the Role of 
Online Communication in the Transition from the ARPANET to the Internet 

http://umcc.ais.org/~ronda/new.papers/tcpdraft.txt

I am working on a paper about the early development of the Internet as
an international collaboration. And I welcome input into that process.

Ronda

Netizens is online at
http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/

A draft paper on the 10th anniversary of Netizens

http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netizens2004.doc

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Automated Attendant Systems
Reply-To: cnavarro@wcnet.org
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:52:29 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:30:33 GMT, JamminDJ
<jammindj@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:

> Hello, I am a tech consonant for a computer help desk at a mid to
> large size university. Currently all calls to the centre go through an
> initial auto attendant system, then are forwarded to dept. depending
> on need. One of these options is password change. This is all done by
> human operator right now, we take their SSN numbers and get fed a new
> password out. This becomes quite tiresome, and some higher ups have
> actually threatened to quit due to the infinite number of calls for
> change password requests. My question is, is there a piece of software
> or hardware, capable of taking a purely numeric SSN number, feeding to
> one of our mainframes, and spit out the purely alphaic password? I
> know it can be done, this is evident in the CVS 'Rapid Refill'
> system. I just wonder if there is any third party software that can do
> this, and do it at a university price.

I have never done this, but Amanda does simple comma delimited or ODBC
compliant database lookups, depending on which system you buy.  Try
www.taa.com and look at Amanda @work.group or Amanda Portal.  The
former is fairly inexpensive for what it does, about $2500 retail, and
the latter about $5200 for 4 port systems.

Carl Navarro

> Thank you for your time,

> Paul Miller

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:22:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Doubling Down on Digital Entertainment


By Cynthia L. Webb
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer

When the world's technology heavyweights get together every January to
tout their flashy gadgets, you know it's more than just "Vegas, baby."
It's the International Consumer Electronics Show , and this year's
event kicked off with the latest installment in Microsoft
Corp. Chairman Bill Gates's vision of the wired future.

That future will play out in a seamless melange of connected PCs, TVs
and a host of other electronics devices -- a digital entertainment
system with the computer as its central nervous system, Gates said in
his opening keynote. And in a familiar refrain, Gates wants Microsoft
to be the market leader.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64733-2004Jan8.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:28:37 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New TVs Are Easy to Admire, Tougher to Comprehend


By Rob Pegoraro

LAS VEGAS

It is becoming harder to buy a television set than a personal
computer. The unheralded side effect of the digital transformation
that promises to bring TV sets new levels of quality and performance
is that they've become much harder to decipher.

These things were once commodity items that anybody could buy based
largely on brand and price, but the evidence on the show floor at the
Consumer Electronics Show here indicates that they're all shifting
painfully back into the status of "exclusive" products, each with a
unique mix of innovations, limitations and, most of the time, higher
prices.

This tension between creativity and commodity is part of this
industry's way of life. A product can't be born without creativity,
but it can't be a success until it hits commodity status. In between,
it's a mess for consumers to sort out.

That's the story behind three big stories of this year's CES:
flat-panel digital televisions, digital video recording and wireless
media networks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5386-2004Jan10.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 10:57:35 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Mars Info on NASA Web Site Gets Inundated


By ANICK JESDANUN AP Internet Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- Think of the Library of Congress' entire print 
collections _ and then some _ to get an idea of how much data space 
enthusiasts have downloaded from NASA's Web sites this week.

Visitors had obtained more than 34.6 terabytes of images, video and
other information as of Friday afternoon, the bulk related to the Mars
rover Spirit. By some estimates, all the words in every book in the
Library of Congress total 20 terabytes.

So far, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration has posted
all raw images from Spirit, some within a half-hour of the data
reaching Earth. At least 10 to 30 images are expected daily, with some
even available in 3-D.

NASA also created panoramic views by piecing several images together
and plans interactive features in which viewers control the view with
a mouse (sorry, but you won't be able to control the spacecraft's
camera directly).

Once the rover begins moving, NASA plans video summaries at least
weekly by combining still images. For now, video is largely limited to
animation of the spacecraft's journey, documentary-style clips and
streaming of the NASA TV cable channel.

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Subject: Wall Street Journal Special Report on VoIP


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This special issue of the Digest is
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 From the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB107350810527282200,00.html?mod=sr%2Dtechnology2004%2D1%5F2

SPECIAL REPORT: TECHNOLOGY

Ready for Prime Time

A new Internet-based phone technology has an un-catchy acronym:
VOIP. But don't be fooled: It could make dramatic changes in the way
businesses operate.

By PETER GRANT

Bruce Cumming hardly ever touches his office phone anymore.

When he wants to call someone, Mr. Cumming simply clicks on the name
in the contact list in his computer's Microsoft Outlook program. The
number rings and, when someone answers, he talks to them on his
speaker phone.

The vice president of National Money Mart Co., a financial-services
firm based in Victoria, British Columbia, also uses his computer to
check voice mail, set up conference calls, and forward calls to his
cellphone, home phone or any other number when he leaves the
office. Recently, on a trip to National Money's Philadelphia office,
Mr. Cumming plugged his laptop into the data network there and it
became his office phone, with all the features that it offers back
home. If someone called his number in Victoria, his laptop rang in
Philadelphia.

"When I called out, people would look at their caller ID and see my
Victoria number," Mr. Cumming says. "They'd say, 'I thought you were
in Philadelphia.'"

These phone features became available earlier this year after National
Money Mart installed a phone system from Mitel Networks Corp. that uses a
new Internet-based phone technology known as VOIP, or voice over Internet
protocol.

It's not a catchy name, but get used to it all the same. At the very
least, telecom experts say, most business phone systems eventually
will convert to VOIP for cost savings and the wide range of new
features the technology offers, like improved conference calling, and
combining voice and e-mail messages on one directory, and, eventually,
video phones. At most, they say, the technology could make dramatic
changes in the way businesses operate, comparable to those made by the
Internet and the PC.

Second Chance

VOIP works by transforming voice into data and then transmitting it
over the Internet or some other data network in the same way text,
photos and e-mail are sent. Introduced in the mid-1990s, it was one of
the many new technologies that initially overpromised and
underdelivered, creating great frustration for early adopters and huge
losses for early investors.  Some of the earliest businesses that
installed VOIP were very critical of the sound quality. And even
today, there are occasional kinks like echoes and shuttering sounds if
data is lost in transmission. Still, enough improvements have been
made to prompt businesses to take a second look at VOIP as a way of
increasing efficiency and productivity and cutting costs.

By the end of this year, about 20% of the new phones being shipped to
U.S.  businesses will use VOIP technology, according to Yankee Group,
a technology consulting firm based in Boston. By 2007 that figure
should exceed 50%, and eventually almost all of the new phones shipped
will use VOIP, Yankee Group predicts. Almost all of the research and
development being done by phone-system developers -- including Mitel,
based in Kanata, Ontario, Cisco Systems Inc. of San Jose, Calif.,
Nortel Networks Corp. of Brampton, Ontario, and Avaya Inc. of Basking
Ridge, N.J. -- is on VOIP.

"The technology is ready for prime time," says Malcolm Collins,
president of Nortel's enterprise networks division.

VOIP can make a wide range of existing phone features easier to use,
because when voice is turned into data it essentially becomes another
application on the computer. For example, many conventional business
phone systems give workers the ability to see a log of their calls or
to program phones to ring at home or on their cellphones. But
activating these features means pushing a bunch of buttons on the
telephone. With VOIP, setting them up just takes a couple of clicks of
the mouse. Setting up a conference call with standard phones often
requires the assistance of an operator. With VOIP, it involves a
simple click-and-drag operation on the computer screen, putting a
cursor on the names of the conferees. As people join and exit the
call, their names are added or subtracted on the screen.

Features also can be combined with other data applications. For
instance, voice mail and e-mail can be combined in a single
directory. "It makes it easy for a lawyer who's been at a deposition
all day and has to travel out of town," says Bill Costello, technology
chief at Banner & Witcoff. "They can download their master mailbox to
their laptop and head for the airport." The Washington-based law firm
installed an Avaya VOIP system a year ago.

Then there are features that weren't possible on conventional phone
systems that allow for customization. Take the police department of
Bend, Ore., which installed a Cisco VOIP system starting two years
ago. Police investigators wanted to verify that a suspect they were
seeking was at a particular phone number in California. Technicians
were able to set up a call so that it wouldn't be identified on the
other end as coming from the police department, says Steve Meyers, the
city's information technology director. Instead, it showed the call
coming from a phony name and number.  The suspect "picked up the phone
and they talked to him briefly," says Mr.  Meyers. "They knew where he
was."

Another plus for VOIP is its portability. VOIP phones with a
particular phone number can be taken anywhere, connected to a
broadband connection and still receive calls at the same number. That
means employees can easily and inexpensively move desks or work from
home or a hotel and still get all the calls directed at their work
phone numbers. They keep all the features that their work phones have,
like four-digit calling to other extensions.

It's a cost-conscious manager's dream, because moving employees from
one location to another can be done without a technician. In October,
when Vegas.com, a business that runs one of the biggest Las Vegas Web
sites, moved its operations to a larger building in a suburban office
park, employees lost very little time, thanks to the VOIP phone system
the company purchased from Nortel.

"We did it in groups of four," says Howard Lefkowitz, president of
Vegas.com, a unit of Greenspun Media Group, Henderson, Nev. "Employees
unplugged their phones, carried them across the street and they
worked."

There are also savings on long-distance bills, given that VOIP calls
between offices cost the same as sending e-mail. The long-distance
bill of Banner & Witcoff dropped so much that the law firm received a
call from a long-distance representative at AT&T Corp. after it
installed its VOIP system. "They were concerned that we switched
carriers," says Mr.  Costello.

Always Within Reach

VOIP phone systems are proving especially useful in businesses that
rely heavily on roving employees, like a hotel or warehouse. Using
cordless VOIP phones, workers can stay in touch with managers as well
as enter data in the business's computer system.

A maid in a hotel, for instance, can use her phone to let the front
desk know when a room is cleaned or when she's running out of shampoo
and conditioner bottles.

The nurses at Erlanger Health System, which operates a medical center
in Chattanooga, Tenn., have been responding to patient calls faster
since the hospital installed a VOIP system a year ago, says John
Haltom, the center's network manager. They now make their rounds with
a cart that contains a laptop with an attached phone. They use the
laptop to enter patient reports. A nurse doesn't have to go back to
his or her station to see that a patient has been ringing the buzzer
for 15 minutes, because the calls go immediately to the phone.

"It takes the ball and chain off them," Mr. Haltom says.

VOIP also is making big changes in call centers, in some cases
enabling companies to replace big centralized facilities with virtual
operations.

For instance, all of JetBlue Airways' reservations agents work from
home using VOIP phones hooked into high-speed Internet
connections. Call centers also have begun to add features so agents
can go from instant messaging to e-mail to phone communication
quickly. Some businesses have set up systems to recognize certain
incoming numbers and give preferred customers special treatment.

Eventually, these new VOIP features in call centers may reduce the
numerous annoyances consumers often experience when calling them, like
having to give an agent account numbers and personal information after
having already punched them into the phone. Ravi Sethi, president of
Avaya, says the company already has installed some of these new
applications in its own call center. "The number of abandoned calls
went down," he says. "People were happier."

VOIP will trigger even bigger changes to the workplace in the future,
telecom experts predict. More employers will follow JetBlue's lead and
allow employees to work from home. The use of branch offices will
likely become more popular, since VOIP greatly reduces the cost of
interoffice phone calls. And more companies will begin the practice of
"hoteling," cutting space costs by assigning desks to employees who
travel a lot on a short-term basis. "You come into the office, log
into any phone and it takes on the appearance of your own phone," says
Robert Filby, a manager of the consulting firm Cap Gemini Ernst &
Young, which acquired a VOIP system from Cisco. "The [VOIP] technology
lends itself to that."

Businesses also can expect a wide range of new features. Major telecom
companies and small start-ups are busy developing new software that
will incorporate video phones, voice recognition, wireless technology
and other applications into VOIP systems.

"It's just like the Internet itself," says Steve Dimmit, a marketing
vice president with SBC Communications Inc., which has begun offering
VOIP systems to its business customers. "People are going to come up
with applications we haven't thought of before."

 -- Mr. Grant is a staff reporter in The Wall Street Journal's New York
bureau.

Write to Peter Grant at peter.grant@wsj.com

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http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB107350780635649000,00.html?mod=article-outset-box

Technical Adviser
By LEE GOMES

Taking Net Calls for a Test Ride

Psst. Wanna make phone calls cheap and even free? Then remember these
four letters: VOIP.

Voice over Internet protocol, or VOIP, is the latest rumble in the
continuing Internet earthquake. By using the Internet to transmit
digitized telephone signals, VOIP is making possible all manner of
low- or even no-cost alternatives to traditional phone service, often
with just-as-good quality.

This is a user report on two of these offerings. The executive summary:
Try them both, since you can do so for free.

The first is from Vonage Holdings Corp., which calls itself "the
broadband phone company." At the prices this Edison, N.J., operation
is offering local and long-distance telephone service, it's little
wonder why regular phone companies are worried about VOIP.

Vonage's rates are low. Its most expensive regular plan is $35 a
month, which allows you to make unlimited calls in the U.S. and Canada
at no additional cost, and to call much of the rest of the world for
five cents a minute. And that's all you pay, since Vonage's services
are currently untaxed.

You can use Vonage if you have any sort of broadband Internet
connection, either a cable modem or DSL. Vonage ships you an adapter
that is the size of a paperback, which connects via a cable to your
broadband modem. Then, you plug any standard telephone into a phone
jack in the back of the Vonage adapter.

Your phone will now act like it's plugged into the regular phone
network, letting you make and receive calls to and from any other
phone.

My Vonage unit worked just like it was supposed to, right out of the
box; I got a dial tone the first time I picked up the headset. The one
difference is that you need to dial 1 and then the area code all the
time, even when making local calls.

How good is the voice quality? It's going to depend on the quality of
your local broadband link. Since I have a great DSL connection, my
Vonage phone sounded essentially the same as my regular telephone.

Others aren't going to have the same experience. When chatting with
Chip Cummins, a Vonage customer in Kingwood, Texas -- and a monster
VOIP phone buff -- his words would cut out in mid-sentence so often
that we had to switch over to regular phones.

Since Internet-service providers and broadband connections vary so
greatly, it's hard to know in advance what your experience will be
like.  The good news here is that Vonage gives you a free two-week
trial period.

And Vonage is worth checking out for reasons other than the low
prices.  For instance, you can call a local number to check your
voice-mail messages or you can check them online, and can even have
them e-mailed to you as sound file attachments.

My favorite Vonage trick: When traveling to a place that also has a
broadband connection, anywhere in the world, take your Vonage adapter
with you. A phone plugged into it will act just like your home phone,
sending and receiving calls at your regular home number, for no extra
charge.

When you sign up for Vonage, you can either transfer your current
telephone number to your Vonage set or the company can give you a new
one.  While some people may want to go all-Vonage right away, I would
recommend the latter course, at least initially, so you can be assured
you are comfortable with the voice quality. Later, if you want, you
can transfer your current landline number, severing ties to your
telephony past.

A very different approach to VOIP is Skype, a free and very popular
program, from a group of programmers in Denmark, that you download
onto your PC. You hook up a PC-style headphone (with separate plug for
the earpieces and microphone) to the sound card on your PC. Then, you
can talk for free with anyone else in the world who also is running
Skype and sitting, similarly equipped, in front of his or her PC.

When Skype works, it's great. But the software is very hit and miss,
both in terms of making connections and in the quality of the link
once it's there. Considering the price tag, though, it's hard to
complain. And the Skype folks promise continual improvements. (The
programmers plan to offer a professional version of Skype to companies
for a fee.)

Whatever its problems, Skype already is making one valuable
contribution to the world of telephony: When Skype is working right,
the sound quality is awesome -- like rich CD audio compared with the
tinny AM radio of regular phone calls.

The problem with regular phones is part hardware -- neither the
microphones nor speakers used in phones are anything remotely
resembling audiophile quality -- and part software, in that the
standards and specifications used to transmit voice signals don't
allow for much quality to begin with. There probably isn't a lot that
can be done with existing landline standards, since the industry is so
mature. But with any luck, engineers in the much newer worlds of both
mobile and VOIP telephone service will pay attention to voice quality
as they introduce new generations of service.

Skype sounds as good as it does, in part, because the headphones made
for PCs are vastly better than the sort used in most telephones,
either standard or mobile. That got me wondering about sound quality
on existing house phones; I noticed a dramatic difference, even on the
same line, between my Panasonic cordless handset (poor) and the AT&T
model (much better).

Which are the best phones to use for sound quality? Readers are
welcome to send in recommendations, which will be passed along in a
future column.

In that spirit, a recent column about browser shortcuts (Technical
Adviser, Oct. 20) omitted, due to authorial ignorance, one of the most
useful shortcuts of all.

With recent versions of Internet Explorer, if you simply type in the
address bar the name of the site you want to go to, such as "Yahoo,"
and then, while holding down the "Control" key, press "Enter,"
Explorer will automatically fill in everything else, including the
"http://www" beforehand and the ".com" afterward.

Try it with "Vonage" or "Skype." Your friends will say, "Cool, dude!"
And it is.

Write to Lee Gomes at lee.gomes@wsj.com

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    Telecom Update (Canada) #415, January 12, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Students' Data on Web, and N.Y.U. on Defensive (Monty Solomon)
    Leaving Dial-Up Business, Microsoft Aims MSN.com at Yahoo (M. Solomon)
    Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots (Steven J Sobol)
    Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
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** Primus Launches Local VoIP Service
** Vonage Partners With 360
** Telus Workers Hold Second Strike Vote
** Spectrum Auction to Start February 9
** Bernard Courtois to Head ITAC
** Quebecor Takes Back Videotron Telecom
** SaskTel Unveils Network Spending Plans
** RIM Prepares $900 Million Stock Issue
** Class Actions Against BCE/BCI Dismissed
** Nortel Wins Verizon VoIP Deal
** Rogers Wireless Shows Gains in 4Q Subscribers
** Bell Must Negotiate Over Buyouts
** Avotus to Buy Bill Management Developer
** Canada-Vietnam VoIP Service Planned
** Motorola Adopts Certicom Wireless Security
** C-Com Wins Mideast Contract for Satellite Gear
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PRIMUS LAUNCHES LOCAL VoIP SERVICE: Primus Telecommunications Canada
has begun providing local residential telephone service over
high-speed Internet connections. TalkBroadband offers Toronto,
Montreal, Ottawa, Hamilton, Calgary, Edmonton, or Vancouver local
numbers, but is available anywhere in Canada.

** Prices range from $19.95 to $34.95 a month, depending on
    the option package. The service can be bundled with
    special long distance packages, including unlimited
    Canada/U.S. calling for $20 a month.

** TalkBroadband does not yet provide E911 service. Primus
    hopes to offer it soon, within a given number's home
    calling area.

VONAGE PARTNERS WITH 360: Telecom Update has learned that U.S. VoIP
provider Vonage will work with Group Telecom/ 360networks to offer its
service in Canada later this year. Vonage will retail the consumer
offering; 360networks will provide switching and transmission
infrastructure and Canadian telephone numbers.

TELUS WORKERS HOLD SECOND STRIKE VOTE: The conciliation process
between Telus and 10,700 members of the Telecommunications Workers
Union ends today. The TWU is holding a strike vote, and a legal strike
or lockout is possible February 3. (See Telecom Update #358, 412)

SPECTRUM AUCTION TO START FEBRUARY 9: The 2.3/3.5 GHz spectrum
auction, originally announced for January, is now scheduled to begin
on February 9. Twenty applicants have already qualified as bidders;
another five are pending.  Deposits total about $40 Million.

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/vwGeneratedInterE/sf08115e.html

BERNARD COURTOIS TO HEAD ITAC: Bernard Courtois, who retired as Bell
Canada Executive Counsel last month, has been named President and CEO
of the Information Technology Association of Canada. He replaces Bill
Bergen, the former Oracle Canada executive who left the ITAC post
after only a few months in office.

QUEBECOR TAKES BACK VIDEOTRON TELECOM: Quebecor Media has bought back
the Carlyle Group shares of Videotron Telecom, in a deal worth about
$125 million. A company representative told reporters that Videotron
was now considering offering residential telephone service but had not
made a final decision.

SASKTEL UNVEILS NETWORK SPENDING PLANS: SaskTel says it will spend
$121 million in 2004 to maintain and upgrade its network. Plans
include expanding digital cellular coverage to 94% of the population
and building an IP network that can support voice and Centrex-like
features.

RIM PREPARES $900 MILLION STOCK ISSUE: Research In Motion has
announced plans to sell nine million shares, worth about $900 million
at current prices. RIM says the funds will go to R&D, expansion, and
possible acquisitions.

** Nextel, a U.S. cellco, has launched RIM's BlackBerry 7510,
    which combines BlackBerry's e-mail and PDA features with
    Nextel's iDen push-to-talk wireless service. iDen is
    offered in Canada by Telus under the brand name Mike.

CLASS ACTIONS AGAINST BCE/BCI DISMISSED: The Ontario Superior Court
has dismissed two $1-billion class action lawsuits brought by
shareholders in Bell Canada International, a BCE subsidiary that is
winding up operations. (See Telecom Update #351, 398)

NORTEL WINS VERIZON VoIP DEAL: Verizon Communications, the largest
U.S. phone company, says it will sign a five-year contract with Nortel
Networks to evolve its national network to packet switching
technology. Analysts estimate the value of the deal at US$5 Billion.

ROGERS WIRELESS SHOWS GAINS IN 4Q SUBSCRIBERS: Rogers Wireless gained
a net 172,700 subscribers in the fourth quarter, 14% more than during
the same period in 2002.  Monthly disconnects (postpaid) fell to
1.99%.

** Rogers Cable added 35,400 Internet subscribers (22%
    fewer than a year ago) bringing its total to 790,500.

BELL MUST NEGOTIATE OVER BUYOUTS: The Canada Industrial Relations
Board has confirmed that Bell Canada cannot offer "Voluntary
Separation Packages" to employees without consulting their union, the
Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada. Bell had
asked the Board to reconsider the ruling, made last year.

AVOTUS TO BUY BILL MANAGEMENT DEVELOPER: Avotus Corporation, a
Mississauga-based telecom management company, has signed a letter of
intent to buy Formity Systems, a New Jersey company that develops
communications expense management software.

CANADA-VIETNAM VoIP SERVICE PLANNED: Montreal-based Can-Tel VoIP
Enterprise, which describes itself as "a Canadian company of
Vietnamese origin," says it will soon introduce prepaid calling card
programs targeting Vietnamese and other Asian communities across
Canada.

MOTOROLA ADOPTS CERTICOM WIRELESS SECURITY: Motorola says its A760
smartphone will utilize Virtual Private Network technology from
Certicom, a Mississauga-based supplier of wireless security.

C-COM WINS MIDEAST CONTRACT FOR SATELLITE GEAR: Ottawa-based C-Com
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:41:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Students' Data on Web, and N.Y.U. on Defensive


By KAREN W. ARENSON

Three years ago, when Brian Frank entered New York University, he 
signed up for intramural basketball, providing his name and his 
university identification number, which was also his Social Security 
number.

Yesterday  morning, Mr. Frank, who is now a senior, learned from 
N.Y.U. that these details had been posted on the Internet. He was 
among about 1,800 N.Y.U. students who received the same e-mail 
notification from the university. In some cases, students' phone 
numbers were posted, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/10/nyregion/10identity.html

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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:28:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Retreating From Dial-Up Business, Microsoft Aims MSN.com at Yahoo


Retreating From Dial-Up Business, Microsoft Aims MSN.com at Yahoo

By JOHN MARKOFF

Microsoft said yesterday that it was repositioning its money-losing
MSN Internet service operation to compete more directly with Yahoo's
personalized Web portal and America Online's broadband premium
service.

At the same time, it is planning a new MSN premium service, priced at
$9.95 monthly and modeled after Apple Computer's .Mac Internet-based
customer support service.

The strategy shift was announced by Microsoft's chairman, Bill Gates,
in a speech in Las Vegas on the opening night of the annual Consumer
Electronics Show.

The shift represents a concession by Microsoft, which has invested 
billions trying to unseat America Online as the leading Internet 
service provider.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/08/technology/08soft.html

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From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:00:35 -0600


Joe@nospancity.com wrote:

> If the web site tests the line and says it's eligible why not place
> the order on-line so you don't have to deal with the "morons."

You still have to deal with them.

The simple solution is to find a reputable ISP that resells Verizon
that will be willing to deal with Verizon when (not if) they screw up.

The trick is never to deal with the telco directly.

Or you can just do what I did, and get cable. 


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * sjsobol@JustThe.net

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From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 12 Jan 2004 14:34:20 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots


> If the web site tests the line and says it's eligible why not place
> the order on-line so you don't have to deal with the "morons."

Because if I key my phone number into the web site -- it says it IS
NOT available. If I put another number in from same building, same
cable it say sit is.

And dslreports.com shows me roughly 6000 feet from the CO. 

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: "Superman TV" and Telephones
Date:  12 Jan 2004 07:01:25 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I saw an old episode of the TV "Superman" (mid 50s) and 
noticed how today's phones would've made a difference.

First, the bad guys following Lois had to choose between
following her (or let her get away) or calling some associates.
The debated this and finally chose to follow Lois.  On the way,
they passed a drug store and one guy left the guy to use the
phone in there.  Obviously no cell phones then.  But today,
how many drugstores have payphones in them?  Back then it was
something normal (our local drugstore had a phonebooth in the
back, complete with a seat, light, and adjustable fan, and we
often used it.)

Second, when Lois Lane arrived home at her apartment, she didn't stop
to check her ans machine for messages, as everyone does today.

I'll bet a great many old TV shows and movies had plot twists based on
someone urgently trying to phone another person but couldn't reach
them because they were on the road.  With cell phones that's all gone.
Of course back then, businesses had secretaries to take messages.
Nice apartment buildings had switchboards and would take messages for
the residents.

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:42:50 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


desiv <desiv@attbi.com> writes:

> As far as I know, Caller ID is data sent over the phone line from the
> phone company.  When my mom called this lady, QWest detects that this
> woman is on the phone, and forwards the call and ANI info to Callwave.
> They (Callwave) then sends it to this woman's PC.  So, if this my mom

If this other guy was calling and trying to get past call-blocking, he
might, if he was behind a PBX or on an ISDN line, reprogam the number
emitted by their system. Telemarketers do this all the time, and I
think the rules which make it illegal came into effect on january 1st.

> Now, I'm not asking how HE did it (if he did) ... What I want to know
> is how would that be possible???

Caller-ID isn't perfect, but in this particular case it looks like some
sort of database corruption -- maybe this callwave thingie mixed up
information from two different calls?

> Something like call forwarding or transferring??  Some way someone
> could monitor phone calls???

Your punctuation marks are getting to the 'wearing underwear on your
head' stage. Calm down. Of all the things this *could* be, I think
tracing and monitoring is the least likely by far. If someone working
for a security company wanted to do that, you'd never know it was
happening if they had any skills at all. *

* PV something like badgers -- something like lizards -- and something
     like corkscrews.

------------------------------

From: BV124@aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:17:17 EST
Subject: Re: More on NANP Numbering Compared to Europe


I was given to understand that Area Code "224" was an overlay to Area
Code "847".  Am I wrong?

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That may be correct, I do not
know. Having washed my hands of the whole ugly scene called 'Chicago'
officially in 1999 with only one very short, limited visit since, in
the year 2001, I have more or less lost track of things there. If 224
is 'only' an overlay as compared to a complete change of area code
once again,  then I guess that is a point in favor of the widely-
scattered (from Newfoundland through the mid-south Pacific Ocean) but
hardly inclusive (no Mexico, no Cuba) "North American" numbering plan.
Actually, I had heard somewhere (maybe an Ameritech public relations
blurb) that 847 had been edged to the west, starting over around
Arlington Heights/Glenview somewhere while the 'north shore' area
around Glencoe, Highland Park, Evanston all 'migrated' (was forced
into) 224. Maybe someone who *actually lives there* can comment.  PAT]

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From: Bob Goudreau (address withheld at reader's request)
Subject: Re: More on NANP Numbering Compared to Europe 
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:38:20 -0500


[As usual, please omit my email address.  Thanks.]

>> My number in Paris has remained the same for 20 years now. 
>> Friends of mine in the states
>> have endured 3, 4 or more area code changes during this time.

> I think you'll find that the number of people living in areas that
> have undergone that many NPA splits is proportionally very tiny
> compared to the number who have undergone no changes at all.  (Mark &
> Co., are there actually *any* areas at all that have undergone *four*
> splits since 1984?  PAT complained about having four area codes over
> the years, but bear in mind that he moved to different cities at least
> a couple of times, which isn't at all the same as having your number
> change due to an area code split. 

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not remember the *exact* order of
> things from back when I was living in Chicago but let us take a
> hypothetical person living in Evanston/Skokie, IL for thirty years or
> so.  They began with 312 for all of northern Illinois. Then they
> went to 708 when all suburbs were split away from Chicago. Then they
> would have gone to 847 when the northern suburbs were split away from
> the southern/western suburbs. Now they have gone to 224 when the
> northeastern suburbs were split away from the northwestern suburbs.
> That would appear to be four potential area code splits in a bit over
> twenty years wouldn't it?

No, it would actually be three splits (one original area code and
three subsequent ones caused by splits), if the above scenario were
correct.  But I don't think it is, because I believe that NPA 224 is
actually an OVERLAY on NPA 847, and the PLs on nanpa.com seem to
confirm that.  Thus, anyone with an existing phone number there will
at worst have undergone only two area code changes in the last
almost-60 years (312 to 708 to 847), and will never have to change
again until the NANP expands beyond 10 digits (which looks at least 40
years out now, if not further).  Two numbering changes in a century
sounds like a pretty stable numbering plan to me!


Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you are going to think of it that
way (only two changes in sixty years) then you should probably recall
that sixty years ago, when 312 became obligitory they had been able
to use just seven digits prior to having to add 1-312 to the front end
of it. There was a time when even 312 was not needed.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: JakeD@rosestudios.com (Jake Dempsey)
Subject: Re: Automated Attendant Systems
Date: 12 Jan 2004 01:44:02 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Shameless self plug ... but the Rose Unified messaging platform may fit
your bill.

http://www.rosetechnologies.com/Rosetech/RoseComm/CallManager/index.htm

You can give it a look see. If you want you can keep folks in menus
typing passwords and pin numbers for hours.

Give us a call.

425-637-2344 just hit 0 for the operator and ask for Jake or Chad.

Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org> wrote in message 
news:<telecom23.16.11@telecom-digest.org>:

> On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:30:33 GMT, JamminDJ
> <jammindj@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:

>> Hello, I am a tech consonant for a computer help desk at a mid to
>> large size university. Currently all calls to the centre go through an
>> initial auto attendant system, then are forwarded to dept. depending
>> on need. One of these options is password change. This is all done by
>> human operator right now, we take their SSN numbers and get fed a new
>> password out. This becomes quite tiresome, and some higher ups have
>> actually threatened to quit due to the infinite number of calls for
>> change password requests. My question is, is there a piece of software
>> or hardware, capable of taking a purely numeric SSN number, feeding to
>> one of our mainframes, and spit out the purely alphaic password? I
>> know it can be done, this is evident in the CVS 'Rapid Refill'
>> system. I just wonder if there is any third party software that can do
>> this, and do it at a university price.

> I have never done this, but Amanda does simple comma delimited or ODBC
> compliant database lookups, depending on which system you buy.  Try
> www.taa.com and look at Amanda @work.group or Amanda Portal.  The
> former is fairly inexpensive for what it does, about $2500 retail, and
> the latter about $5200 for 4 port systems.

> Carl Navarro

>> Thank you for your time,
  
>> Paul Miller

------------------------------

From: jdj <jdj@some.site>
Subject: ATT Slams Again
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 04:42:39 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Anyone want to do business with ATT? This might be of interest:

Looks like ATT is indulging in more creative revenue enhancement.

I was again (soft)slammed by ATT, switched again from residential to 
business long distance. This time, they refuse to cancel the charges.

I got a business bill in October for a prorated amount of the $25.00 
they charge people who do not make any long distance calls.

I also got a residential bill for the same period.

I called ATT "sales" and wound up with a self-proclaimed telephone
expert who would not cancel the business account and who started in
with the insults and innuendo almost from the start. He also betrayed
his total ignorance of how LEC's operate, which he claimed to be a
certified expert in, with comments like, "How do you know what the
classcode is? Did you walk into the central office and check your
line?"  He didn't know what "switch" meant. He stumbled on "LEC",
too. He really went out of his way to be as offensive as possible. I
guess he was only half right--he's certifiable, at least.

I got ATT to block long distance service on 6 October but ATT
continued to bill until they cut off service on 21 October.

The LEC had just got rid of all their experienced help and was unable
to terminate the primary long distance service until 10 October. I
spent approx 2.5 hours getting passed around to people who had no clue
as to what to do and would not admit to it.

I was an ATT customer since 1971. They can thank their "salesman" and
their slamming that I and my businesses will forever have nothing to
do with them. I will never recommend any of their services.

I have sent a written complaint to CAPUC, as this is in CA.

I noted that ATT is also charging their residential customers fees for
not making long distance calls starting this month.

This is the second time they have slammed me, switching from
residential to business without even the courtesy of a notice.

Seems like ATT is in trouble -- if they have to start slamming and
charging fees to customers not making enough calls. (I wonder how
their stock fares?)

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Norvergence Bait and Switch (Kim Barker Craven)
    IBM Breaks U.S. Patent Record; Tops List Eleventh Consecutive (Solomon)
    Democratizing the Media, and More (H. E. Taylor)
    Analog Phone Line Question (Dmitry)
    MCI's Current Market Status (Brett Nelson)
    Executone ACD Reporting (ab)
    Re: Wireless and Internet Phones not Yet Reliable For 911 (John Bartley)
    Re: "Talibanism in Technology" (Jay Hennigan)
    Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot (John R. Covert)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:38:11 -0500
Subject: Norvergence Bait and Switch
From: Kim Barker Craven <info@creativeservices.info>


Hi Patrick,

I found your name when doing a search for Norvergence. I wanted to
find out what you can tell me about them.

I signed on with them in August, 2003 for telecom services for my
home-based business for a what turns out to be too-good-to-be-true
rate. Included was T1 connection, unlimited long distance on land
lines and cell phones.

Unfortunately, it turned out to be a case of bait and switch, when at
the minute of installation, with the installer out at the street they
called and said T1 was not available in my residential area, but they
would provide cable (we had dsl) which is, and I quote, "almost as
good" as T1.

They said my contract would reflect a discount and they would fax
revised contract right over. The revived contract never came but the
bills persist.

What really galls me is they delivered a Matrix Soho box which I am
supposed to pay $200/mo for 5 years to rent. We have not used this box
since day one.  It appears to be nothing more than a router/firewall. 
Am I correct?

I am trying to cancel service but they are unresponsive. Further their
financing company, Dolphin capital, is threatening to ruin my credit
rating because I refuse to pay for the box.

What can you tell me about these characters?

Thanks you for your interest.

Kim Barker Craven
President
CREATIVE SERVICES
Strategic Marketing & Graphic Design
64 Bower Road, Madison, CT 06443
203.318.9000 / fax 203.318.9001
kim@creativeservices.info
www.creativeservices.info


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not mean to sound hateful to the 
folks at Norvergence; I really don't. But I am not a human Google
search program. I have spent **all day today** -- since 10 AM Tuesday
morning, seeking out and pulling all the Norvergence references -- bad
or good, but mostly bad -- out of our archives to give to Mike Sullivan 
who has agreed to represent me pro-bono as needed in a pending lawsuit
by the Norvergence people against myself. You see, they called again
yesterday with demands, etc. First their lawyer, and I did not return
his call. Then Ms. Susan Carol, who described her job as attempting
to get accurate PR about the firm out on the net. I returned her call,
and found myself 'getting volunteered' into a conference phone call
on January 19 with some executives at Norvergence. I asked John Levine
what I should do; also Mike Sullivan. 

John Levine suggested using 47 USC 230 to stop them dead in their
tracks (pertinent section says no electronic publisher can be held
liable for messages written by others; in other words absolute
immunity) but my first thought was to try and be a little kind and
more pleasant. After all, I personally have no knowlege of Norvergence
and no reason to just give them bad coverage. Mike Sullivan suggested
gathering up everything in the archives about the company and
forwarding them to him for review, which I did earlier today, starting
about eight hours ago. :(  The more I did that, struggling with emacs
and archives files of humongous size, the more irritated I got, to the
point that now I don't really care if I ever talk to those folks at
Norvergence again or not. John may have been correct: refer them to
47-USC-230 and let it go at that; even though that's *not* the way I
believe the Digest should be handled. 

I have Ms. Carol's biography of Alex Wolf, an executive at Norvergence
and I may publish that here soon to see if that will smooth things
over a little.    PAT] 

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:12:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: IBM Breaks U.S. Patent Record; Tops List 11th Consecutive Year


     IBM Breaks U.S. Patent Record; Tops List for Eleventh Consecutive
     Year; More than 25,000 IBM innovations patented since 1993
     - Jan 12, 2004 12:14 PM (BusinessWire)

ARMONK, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 12, 2004--IBM earned 3,415
U.S. patents in 2003, breaking the record for patents received in a
single year and extending its run as the world's most innovative
company to eleven consecutive years. Led by growth in patents that
fuel the company's latest on demand computing and services offerings,
IBM eclipsed the nearest company by more than 1,400 patents.

During the past eleven years, IBM innovations have generated more than
25,000 U.S. patents -- nearly triple the total of any U.S. IT
competitor during this time and surpassing the combined totals for
Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Microsoft, Sun, Oracle, Intel, Apple, EMC,
Accenture and EDS.

IBM is the only company to receive 3,000 patents from the United
States Patent and Trademark Office in a single year, passing that
milestone each of the past three years.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40168237

------------------------------

From: H. E. Taylor <het@despam.autobahn.mb.ca>
Organization: Organization? What organization?!
Subject: Democratizing the Media, and More
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:30:29 -0800


Greetings,

	Here is a clip from a Dan Gillmor article that may be of interest.
	Are we in a 'post-broadcast culture'? 
	Is there a tectonic shift happening here or just more 'technology 
	will save us' wishful thinking?

<curious> 
-het

2004/01/11: DanGillmor: Democratizing the Media, and More	

The broadcast culture assumes that most of us are "consumers" of mass
media.  We are merely receptacles for what Hollywood, the music
industry and even our local daily newspaper decide we should view,
hear or read.

The post-broadcast culture is a democratization of media, and it comes
at things from the opposite stance. It says that anyone also can be a
creator, not just a consumer. There's a world of difference.  [...]

http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001654.shtml


"The universe is full of magical things patiently waiting for 
 our wits to grow sharper." -Eden Phillpotts

PV FAQ: http://www.autobahn.mb.ca/~het/energy/pv_faq.html
H.E. Taylor  http://www.autobahn.mb.ca/~het/

------------------------------

From: shark_1968@yahoo.com (Dmitry)
Subject: Analog Phone Line Question
Date:  12 Jan 2004 12:25:48 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi,

I have a live analog telephone line and can dial out just fine, but I
don't know what the phone number is to dial in. Is there a number I
can dial in Washington D.C area that would tell me the number I am
calling from?

I realize I can call any number with caller ID, but I've heard that
Telco has a number which provides that information also.

Thank you in advance,

Dmitry

------------------------------

From: Brett Nelson <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: MCI's Current Market Status
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:04:46 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Over the past few months I have received several telemarketing pitches
from MCI. The rates are great, but ...

The company reputation was terrible, prior to bankruptcy. How are they now?

Is their billing accurate?

Are the conversions timely and without interruption?

Are they prompt to answer and resolve customer service problems?

Feedback welcome.

------------------------------

From: bothbeckers@yahoo.com (ab)
Subject: Executone ACD Reporting
Date: 12 Jan 2004 20:12:04 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Anyone out there know anything about reporting for the Executone
Custom Plus ACD?  I recently inherited reporting responsibility for 3
of them, and am frustrated by the archaic process of connecting via
modem to acquire data.  Anyone know what database platform Executone
employed?  I'd love to query the table(s) directly and forego the
modem madness.  I know these boxes are pretty old, but assume they're
not without other means of obtaining data.  Thanks for any help.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:57:17 PST
From: John Bartley or K7AAY@ARRL.NET <johnbartley3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wireless and Internet Phones not Yet Reliable For 911


Pat wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Again, talking about Vonage for a
> minute.

> When I got my Vonage account several months ago, the Vonage people
> stressed to me that I should register my '911 service' with them as
> soon as possible. If you travel around a lot, and take the ATA with 
> you, then you are correct, it is not yet perfected. But as soon as I
> gave them my street address, it went on the 911 PSAP records that way.

> I got back email a few days later confirming that my address had been
> registered, and the same day I got a letter from the City of 
> Independence telling me they had also recorded my street address for 
> public safety purposes based on the request from Vonage. However, I 
> have never moved anywhere or had the box out of service, except to 
> reboot it a couple of times. PAT]

All this may be true, but how quickly will it be answered?  In the
PSAP for my county, the call comes in on a non-emergency number.  Not
all PSAPs can prioritize IP-orignated 911 calls alongside 911 calls
from the wireline PSTN.

I'd suggest calling the local non-emergency number, asking for a
supervisor, and then finding out if your IP-originated calls will be
answered just like 911 calls from wireline users.


John E. Bartley, III  K7AAY telcom admin, PDX, USA - Views mine. 
palmwireless (dot) cjb (dot) net Wireless FAQ for PalmOS(r)

This post is quad-ROT13 encrypted. Reading it violates the DMCA.
Dilbert is a documentary.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That is all sort of a moot point in my
case; here is why.  The City of Independence Police Department
Administrative number 332-1700 is answered by the same *one person*
(depending on time of day/day of week) who responds to 911 calls for
police and the Montgomery County Sheriff and the Sheriff's
administrative number 330-1000. In other words, one person does all
the 911 and the administrative phone work for the City of Independence
and the County of Montgomery. Coffeyville however has their own police
department and 911 dispatcher, also a single person (per time of day
and day of week) who does it all, including the Sheriff sub-station
there. When you live in a rural area of s.e. Kansas with a total
(county) population of less than thirty thousand people -- eight
thousand people live here in our town -- you can get away with that. I
am not sure, but I think she answers the 'oh' zero calls on the city
hall centrex as well. I have never called 911 since I believe 911
should be for *dire emergencies* only and not just to ask questions,
etc, and the couple of times I have called 332-1700 (police) or
332-2500 (city clerk) I have never had it ring more than two times. I
think once I was told that on average, the phone person gets a total
of perhaps twenty calls per day on all the lines she supervises, or
less than one call per hour.

I am not that worried about it, especially when I look out my window
across the street and see the Police Chief raking up leaves in his
widowed mother's back yard (house catty-corner from me [where he used
to live as as a small child, and she still resides.]) By the way, I
am sort of shocked to hear you suggest I should use Vonage to dial
911 'just to test it out or ask a supervisor about it'. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control
Subject: Re: "Talibanism in Technology"
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:06:01 -0800


On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:47:33 -0500, Marcus Didius Falco wrote:

> From: K.Ellis
> To: David Farber
> Sent: Jan 10, 2004 11:24 AM
> Subject: "Talibanism in Technology"

> Interesting read.

> "Talibanism in Technology"

> deals with seven reasons why women in technology are invisible
> http://www.dqindia.com/content/special/103022602.asp

I disagree with much of the article, particularly as it relates to
technology in modern times.  The online community is far less
dependent on the classic "networking" addressed in the article of
after-work time, golf on the weekends, etc.  These things may still
play a role in gender discrimination in conventional brick-and-mortar
companies, but to give it a technical slant is misleading.

The online technical community networks through email, web pages,
netnews articles, and text messaging.  These media are for the most
part blind to gender and race issues although some inference could be
made based on the names involved.

The references given are also ancient and irrelevant to modern
technology, going back to the time of the cotton gin and Taj Mahal.


Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - jay@west.net
WestNet:  Connecting you to the planet.  805 884-6323      WB6RDV
NetLojix Communications, Inc.  -  http://www.netlojix.com/

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:00:40 EST
From: John R. Covert <nospam@covert.org>
Subject: Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot


Here is the list of Florida virtual numbers from the Vonage "Add
Virtual Number" page.  When you select a state, you can then select
any area code in that state, and then once you've selected an area
code, you can select one of these exchanges (or you can leave it at
"any location").  You then press "Next" and before it goes on, it
confirms that it will give you a number in the exchange you want
(unless you picked "any").

Now, I don't think that the "Keys" are all one exchange, so that does
look like a crap shoot.  But in all other cases, if you select an
exchange that is a local call to your mother, you'll get a number in
that exchange.

As another reader already suggested, use the web site at
http://members.dandy.net/~czg/search.html to find out what is local to
your mother.  Just put in the area code and first three digits of her
number, for example 321 455, and click on "search".  You'll get a page
listing the rate center for that exchange, which in the case of the
example is "Cocoa, FL".  If you click on the name of the rate center,
another page comes up showing a list of other rate centers which are
local to Cocoa.

Good luck.

305 Keys

786 Miami

813 Plant City, Tampa Central, Zephyrhills

772 Port St. Lucie, Stuart, Vero Beach

561 Belle Glade, Boca Raton, Boynton Beach, Delray Beach

954 Coral Springs, Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Pompano Beach

941 Bradenton, North Port, Palmetto, Sarasota, Venice

727 Hudson, New Port Richey, St. Petersburg, Tarpon Springs

321 Apopka, Cocoa, Cocoa Beach, East Orange, Eau Gallie, Geneva, 
Kenansville,

    Kissimmee, Melbourne, Montverde, Orlando, Oviedo, Reedy Creek, Sanford,
    Titusville, West Kissimmee, Winter Garden, Winter Park
    
904 Fernandina Beach, Jacksonville, Jacksonville Beach, Orange Park,
    Ponte Vedra Beach, St. Augustine

863 Lake Wales, Lakeland, Mulberry, Winter Haven


/john

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:42:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Paul Vader wrote:

> desiv <desiv@attbi.com> writes:

>> As far as I know, Caller ID is data sent over the phone line from the
>> phone company.  When my mom called this lady, QWest detects that this
>> woman is on the phone, and forwards the call and ANI info to Callwave.
>> They (Callwave) then sends it to this woman's PC.  So, if this my mom

> If this other guy was calling and trying to get past call-blocking, he
> might, if he was behind a PBX or on an ISDN line, reprogam the number
> emitted by their system. Telemarketers do this all the time, and I
> think the rules which make it illegal came into effect on january 1st.

>> Now, I'm not asking how HE did it (if he did) ... What I want to know
>> is how would that be possible???

> Caller-ID isn't perfect, but in this particular case it looks like some
> sort of database corruption -- maybe this callwave thingie mixed up
> information from two different calls?

[Snip]

I would agree with the database corruption theory.  The way the
caller-name service works is that there is a dip into a (large)
database system which looks up the name based on the calling number.
If the calling number was shown correctly but the name was not, then
there was some kind of screwup in the database or in communicating
with the database, e.g. the responses to two different queries got
transposed by this "callwave thingie."

Nick Landsberg


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Date: 12 Jan 2004 14:34:09 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.18.5@telecom-digest.org>, Kilo Delta One Sierra
<kd1s@aol.comremvthis> wrote:

>> If the web site tests the line and says it's eligible why not place
>> the order on-line so you don't have to deal with the "morons."

> Because if I key my phone number into the web site -- it says it IS
> NOT available. If I put another number in from same building, same
> cable it say sit is.

Its quite possible that this is correct if your line is connected to
the CO by any one of several devices under the generic name of
"Pair-gain", which enables n copper wires to service n+m phone lines.
One of the more common types of these is the SLC-96 which services 96
telephones over 3 T-1 lines (= 6 copper pairs).  The store may have a
direct copper connection back to the CO.


Rich Greenberg  Work:  Rich.Greenberg atsign worldspan.com  + 1 770 563 6656
N6LRT  Marietta, GA, USA   Play: richgr atsign panix.com    + 1 770 321 6507
Eastern time zone.  I speak for myself & my dogs only.     VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val(Chinook,CGC,TT), Red & Shasta(Husky,(RIP))     Owner:Chinook-L
Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/ Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:20:35 -0500
Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America


On 12 Jan 2004 14:34:20 GMT, kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One
Sierra) wrote:

>> If the web site tests the line and says it's eligible why not place
>> the order on-line so you don't have to deal with the "morons."

> Because if I key my phone number into the web site -- it says it IS
> NOT available. If I put another number in from same building, same
> cable it say sit is.

> And dslreports.com shows me roughly 6000 feet from the CO. 

Giving the telco the benefit of the doubt, it could be that DSL is
"not available" because your line is already being used by pair gain
devices like subscriber carrier.

You need to point out to them that it's not a distance problem, so
what will it take to get DSL on your line ...


Carl Navarro

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: More on NANP Numbering Compared to Europe
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:16:37 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


BV124@aol.com writes:

> I was given to understand that Area Code "224" was an overlay to Area
 >Code "847".  Am I wrong?

You're not wrong. It's not used much though - 224 has existed since
late 2001, and I've never met anyone with a 224 number.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That may be correct, I do not
> know. Having washed my hands of the whole ugly scene called 'Chicago'
> officially in 1999 with only one very short, limited visit since, in
> the year 2001, I have more or less lost track of things there. If 224
> is 'only' an overlay as compared to a complete change of area code
> once again, 

It is indeed an overlay, but not in Chicago -- 847 is used in the
suburbs only. *

* PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
       like corkscrews.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When I use the word 'Chicago' in this
context I am talking about the politics of the entire metropolitan
area, which is how things are at there. The stench goes way beyond
Howard Street on the north or Cicero Avenue on the west. PAT]

------------------------------

From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering; Joey's Advice to the Unwashed Masses
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:55:09 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.9.9@telecom-digest.org>, Joey Lindstrom
<joey@telussucks.info> wrote:

> Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 12:47:27 PM, Earle Robinson wrote:

>> Here in France if I dial a number, and there is no call waiting on
>> that line, I get a busy signal, just as in the states. But, all I need
>> do is to punch the 5 on the touch pad and hang up. ...

> You are intimating that this service is unavailable here (later, in
> your original post, you clearly state that we "don't have" this
> feature).  In fact we do, and depending on the phone company you're
> with, it might be pay-per-use, or a flat-fee charged monthly, or may
> be included in a service bundle.  But we do have this feature.
> Granted, it takes three keys rather than one, but hey.

In fact, here in Arizona's Qwestland we do it with one key.  If a
local number is busy I get a recording (played over the busy signal)
informing that I can dial "3" and hang up to get called back when the
number is free, and that it will cost me $.75.  What it doesn't say is
that since I have this feature in my service bundle, I don't actually
get charged any fee (as you say).

/JBL

------------------------------

From: dor@writeme.com (Satchel Paige)
Subject: Access America Telemanagement E-Reunion Plans
Date: 12 Jan 2004 16:12:09 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Anyone out there who used to work at Access America Telemanagement?
Whether it was in California (Originally as Access West), Illinois or
Connecticut. (Where else were they located?)

Anyone remember Michael and Jarie Shocket or Will Musco? Hows about
The Barnard's: Jim, Jim Jr. and Billy? What is Richard Petty (not the
former race car driver)up to these days?

Sean Crilly
John Chaloupka
Linda Lewin
James Magnone
Ron Sherman
Ron Lewis
Henry Braithwaite
Murry Morganstein
Marianne Mote
Tom Quigly

Add more names. Let's have a reunion. I thought those were great
times.

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From: norvscam@hotmail.com (Alex Wulf)
Subject: Re: Norvergence
Date: 13 Jan 2004 12:50:47 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Email discussing Norvergence has been
coming in heavily all afternoon/evening since I mentioned earlier 
today I was still having trouble with them. The next four or five 
messages all deal with Norvergence; not in a positive light. This 
first message is from Alex Wulf, not to be confused with Alex Wolf
an executive of Norvergence. More from Mr. *Wolf* later this issue.
PAT]

               ======================

Chad, 

Let me start off by saying that no reasonably intelligent person
should ever sign up for Norvergence's current offering. I would advise
you to stay as far away from this company as possible.  I'll explain.

In order to properly asses Norvergence's offer you need to know
exactly what your getting and how it works.  You should also do a
quick check with other competing offers.

Norvergence Scam - How it works:

Norvergence is effectively a reseller/wholesaler of voice and data. 
They resell local loop T-1's from Quest, AT&T and others.  (for
smaller customers they just switch the longdistance service over to
Norvergence). Then they buy usage (minutes) from these companies on a
wholesale basis.  A current survey of wholesale prices indicates that
wholesale rates for domestic longdistance calling is less than .01
(one cent) per minute and falling.  As a retail customer you may be
paying .$03, $.05, $ .10 per minute or higher, so its easy to see how
Norvergence makes money.  Many other companies sell domestic calling
for as little as $.02 -.03 (2-3 cents) a minute to retail customers,
so regardless of what you do, you should shop before you sign.  
Additionally some of the competition doesn't require a contract, or if
they do it's a 1 or 2 year deal, not the 5 years that Norvergence is
demanding.

Norvergence used to call themselves "the strategic alliance of Nortel
Networks."  It took Nortel a little while to figure this out but once
they did Nortel sued Norvergence because they didn't stop.  Nortel won
so they stopped dead in their tracks.  There was never any strategic
alliance.  They had just bought some equipment from Nortel and then
didn't end up paying for it for over a year.  Some partnership!!
Normally when the other party agrees with your statements, they issue
a joint press release.  The press release was issued solely by
Norvergence, to put their spin on it and do some damage control.

Norvergence states they have 1200 or 1300 employees, about 600-700 of
them are cold calling telemarketers and another 250-350 are outside
field sales people trying to get you to sign up.  First they call you
and tell you that they are screening you to see "if you qualify" and
then when you see the sales person they'll tell you there's very few
people "getting approved" for this offer, so you should put in your
"application" right away.  They realize that it they can't scam you on
the first or second try and you don't sign, that you've figured things
out and won't sign with them so they end up leaving you alone.  You'll
never get a straight answer to questions that you ask.  Usually
something like "why worry, its free unlimited calling", just sign
up.  It's a reverse sell that works well with small businesses without
an IT or Telecom department to vet the offer.  Norvergence will use
high pressure tactics to get you to sign right away.  Take your time
and get some competitive offers.

Norvergence has also added 'unlimited' cell phones to their program. 
Same thing here again, you sign a firm and irrevocable 5 year lease. 
They buy the minutes wholesale as if all these phones were Norvergence
corporate phones and you get one monthly lease payment.  This deal is
especially not good for cell phones where prices have been dropping
25-40% over the last few years and continue to drop.  And if you want
to keep your number you may not be able and if you do at the end of
5 years you may not be able to get it back because the number will
belong to Norvergence, since they are the customer not you, due to the
lease arrangement.

Some other companies with very competitive (and many times lower than
Norvergence) rates are Paetec, IDT, and XO communications to name a
few. Vonage and 8x8 also have interesting unlimited calling packages
for business.  Even Verizon has unlimited local and LD business
calling for $89 per line with NO contract. In fact most carriers will
be offering a full suite of unlimited calling packages by the end of
the year.  Prices are going even lower.

So what Norvergence does is save by not having any billing system.
You make a monthly lease payment to a Bank (not Norvergence) which
includes the price of the Matrix (made by Adtran) and also includes
the leased price of all your usage (you no longer get a detailed bill
with all of your calls).  So it's like taking a 5 year loan to buy
phone service.  This is generally not a good idea to begin with, but
there are more serious issues when you go ahead with this at
Norvergence.  

First of all their price guarantee (for further price reductions) is
hollow; it has to be someone with "EXACTLY" the same service.  And if
Norvergence doesn't think it's exactly the same, then you'll never get
a price reduction.  Second, once you sign up, that's it. You can't get
out of the deal for 5 years.  You can't even withhold payment to
Norvergence, because once you sign the lease and get installed,
Norvergence sells the lease to a bank and they get all their money for
the 5 years of telecom and internet service up front.  You get stuck
with the payments and a worthless Adtran IAD (aka Matrix).  

So if your service stinks or if Norvergence goes out of business, you
have no recourse.  The bank will come after you for the payment.  Read
the lease, there is no out to stop making payment even if Norvergence
goes bankrupt.  Also there is no reference in the banks lease document
to the "No Risk Addendum" which the bank never sees, but that offers
you some very slippery worded "guarantees".  Once Norvergence goes
under your stuck.  And if you think that's not a possibility.  You
should look at who's running the company and what's happened to all of
the other companies they've run for a few years, where all the money
disappeared and they filed for bankruptcy.

This company is run by two people who are notorious in New Jersey for
running telecom scams Tom Salzano ( Thomas Salzano ) and his brother
Peter Salzano.  Some of their former companies had at the time the
highest fines ever levied by the FCC. ALL of those companies are
bankrupt, and all the money went missing.  Just do a look-up of these
guys and their former companies:  Cash Back Rebates, National
Telecommunications, Inc., Parcel Consultants, Minimum Rate Pricing,
Inc.  But the executives at this company are living in huge luxury
estates and some are having other custom estates built.  These are not
the kind of people I would trust with my money.

There are better deals out there, don't get sucked in.  You'll regret
it later -- for the rest of the 5 years.

Hope this helps.

Alex

N-Line@juno.com wrote in message
news:<telecom23.14.6@telecom-digest.org>:

> Patrick,

> You seem to have the most insight to this company. (From looking at
> forums.)  They've approached us with their "service" and I'm in the
> process of trying to figure out if they are reputable.

> Can you help?

> Chad

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would suggest two things: one, look
> and scan through our back issues file for December just past and 
> read some of the messages there, none of which are very favorable. I
> also suggest you wait a day or two while this inquiry from you makes
> the rounds on comp.dcom.telecom (and other participating newsgroups)
> and see if some of the readers wake up and respond to you directly;
> again, the most recent replies were not very favorable from Norvergence's
> point of view. The company seems rather litigous, or anxious to sue
> anyone who gives them a bum rap. For instance, they threatened to sue
> me if I did not remove the most disparaging messages about them from
> our archives. I did not remove the messages, but its not that they did
> not try to make me (short of suit), including an inquiry they made of
> MIT's legal counsel. I'd review their contract they'll ask you to sign
> as a condition of getting the 'Matrix box' **very carefully** and
> let's see if any readers write you direct with responses.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com>
Subject: Re: Norvergence Bait and Switch
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:47:49 -0600
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com


On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:38:11 -0500, Kim Barker Craven
<info@creativeservices.info> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,

> I found your name when doing a search for Norvergence. I wanted to
> find out what you can tell me about them.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not mean to sound hateful to the 
> folks at Norvergence; I really don't. But I am not a human Google
> search program. I have spent **all day today** -- since 10 AM Tuesday
> morning, seeking out and pulling all the Norvergence references -- bad
> or good, but mostly bad -- out of our archives to give to Mike Sullivan 

Pat, speaking of Google, why not simply use Goolge to do that job for
you??  Either a site specific search of the archives for the term
"norvergence" or use google groups to search it out on
comp.dcom.telecom  -
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=norvergence&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dcomp.dcom.telecom.*

Less than 60 seconds and you have found all relevant articles.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's what I did; grep vol/iss Norvergence
but then I copied them out to be inserted in email to Michael
Sullivan. My old obsolete computer, combined with my old, obsolete and
quite deseased brain made it quite a day of adventure and hard work.
PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Response to Posting on Norvergence
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:52:22 +0000
From: ashoverman@ekno.com


Mr. Townson,

I was recently recruited by Norvergence and within one hour of the
first seminar, I knew it was BAD!

What are your experiences with the company or any other knowledge that
you have. They have taken money from me as well as my dignity and
self-esteem. I just want to know more about this "company" that
scammed me.

Thank you,

Robert

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Robert, I am sorry to hear about how
you got hassled with your money, dignity and self-esteem getting
ripped off. Reading your message reminded me of how that company which
sold encyclopedias door to door years ago operated. The company would
run help-wanted ads in the Chicago Tribune (20-30 years ago) seeking
'leaders with a positive outlook on life' who wanted to travel all
over the USA for an 'educational' organization demonstrating and
selling products to help children get a decent start and ahead in
life.  Well, know who would not want to do something decent like that,
and make 'lots of money' and 'see the country' in the process. To
apply, you were to go in person to this office downtown in person, and
be prepared to go into training the very same day.

The guys showed up, in droves, and many nice young ladies also. If you
observed closely, there were many things amiss right from the start.
The guys who showed up to fill out the simple-minded application which
never got checked or looked at more than once or twice were always
neat and clean although often times with older clothes that had seen
better times. They all sincerely thought this would be their chance;
their way to make money and be a success in life. The phone which was
always ringing was answered by an older lady with way to much
cosmetics and powder/rouge/lipstick on her only by phone number (as in
'this is RANdolph 6-2345' etc.) She would never say anything except
give the street address and tell you to come in and fill out an
application. If she was trying to give out an application to one of 
the guys when the phone happened to ring again, she would roll her 
eyes upward in disgust. It was a shabby, tiny office in 1960 in 
downtown Chicago in a decrepit old building even back then. 

After you received your (at best) five minute 'interview' and got
hired you were told to report the next morning for your week of
training.  You would be leaving for sites unknown, so please bring
your suitcase. You officially went on the payroll once you made your
first encyclopedia sale. The company gave you ONE meal a day (as an
advance against future wages) and three or four of you shared a room
in a flophouse motel overnight (also an advance against your
wages). If you actually *sold* a set of books going door to door in 
whatever strange community they took you to, you were damn lucky. But
the numbers were with the company, obviously, a million young guys 
all going door to door in strange communities someone was bound to
sell something every day. 

The guys were told (or soon learned, out of desparation) to *lie* in 
their sales tactics. Generally the 'team leaders' as the ones who
drove the cars were called, would just drop you off in a totally
unfamiliar area in a strange town and advise you they would be
back to get you at 6 pm that night. So you went with your one or two
books (out of the volume; encyclopedias were in 20-25 volume sets of
bound books) door to door making up stories about how you were working
your way through school and you got points for all the books you could
sell, etc. They told the customers the books were 'free', being given
by the company to help chidren in their education; you could have a
'free' set of books (entire volume, 25 books in all) if you wanted. 

People would agree but then fail to read the contract they were given
which called for a payment of several hundred dollars *every year*
for the next several years for the 'updating service' which went along
with the books. People found out the hard way when a 'loan company'
called them who had advanced the money to the encyclopedia company
called them trying to collect. A bunch of crummy books which fell
apart in your hands a few days after you 'bought' the 'free' set of
books and the updating service.

If you sold a set of books or maybe two sets after months on the road,
then good for you. If you grew weary of sharing a flophouse motel
room with two or three other guys and eating a cheeseburger and fries
for dinner each night, then you dropped out of this marvelous job
opportunity. I guarentee you that your first one or two sales commissions
went back to the company entirely to pay for your room and board along
the way. *Maybe* by the third sale you actually were able to pocket a
few dollars for yourself. Most guys did not last long enough to make
three sales, or even one or two sales, that is, unless they were
really clever and knew how (and wished to) lie and cheat. 

And for the guys who dropped out of the 'program' early on -- with no
sales commissions and lots of debts to the company for board and room
and food, the company gave them (had to, under federal law) a bus
ticket from the nearest bus station back to their home town (or where
they had signed on with the company.) Of course that bus ticket was
just one more 'cash advance' against commissions to be paid back
eventually. And many of the 'crew leaders' were not above making
suggestions about how the young person could pay back their
indebtedness from the 'advances' they had been given for food and
lodging (if you want to refer to what they ate and the flophouse 
lodging as 'board and room') with advances of their own (sad smile). 
Lisa Minter's brother (a few years older than herself) fell into this
trap once.  

You talk about loss of dignity and self-esteem; the encyclopedia door
to door sales company did that to many kids in the 1950's - 70's era.
I do not know if they are still around or not -- prolly not -- since
no one bothers to actually buy encyclopedias these days when they 
can Google just as easily. I think now they are doing the same thing
with computer sales door to door (get a free one if you promise to
buy upgrades all the time). And of course the rotten to the core
magazine sales people are still out there, working their tails off for
a nightly 'cash advance' of a cheesburger and a crummy motel room they
share with several other guys. Parents, read this! Protect your older
teens against this kind of rotten activity. DO NOT let them go on
these 'adventures' for employment. The younger guys are too trusting
about life.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: 12 Jan 2004 21:05:58 -0500
From: John R Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Very Important Problem!


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The opening quote is from a letter I
forewarded to John Levine that I had received from Susan Carol, who
handles some public relations for Norvergence.  PAT]

> Thanks for returning my call so quickly today. I am glad you are
> interested in interviewing the COO at Norvergence.

[TEL Ed: Then John Levine replied to me:]

Did you say you wanted to interview this guy?  It's hard to imagine that
you did.  If you didn't, just write back and say she misunderstood, the
Telecom Digest doesn't do interviews.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John further suggested I should refer
Norvergence to the provision in federal law which gives absolute 
immunity to ISP's and BBS operators. The way I feel now maybe I will.
PAT]

------------------------------

From: scapr <scapr@adelphia.net>
Subject: Interview on the 19th With Norvergence
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:05:51 -0500


[TEL Ed:  This is the full letter from Susan Carol I got in email
yesterday, in which I was 'volunteered' to be in a phone interview
with folks at Norvergence. PAT]

Patrick,

Thanks for returning my call so quickly today. I am glad you are
interested in interviewing the COO at Norvergence. Just let me know what
time on the 19th may work for you. I will be at their headquarters of
Norvergence that day so I can be on the call with you and we'll both
learn more about the Matrix Gateway, Norvergence history and operations.

Below is the bio which is online for Alex Wolf. He is looking forward to
answering your questions directly. 

Regards,

Susan


Chief Operating Officer: Mr. Alexander L. Wolf. 

Formerly of Nortel Networks, (2000-2001) Mr. Wolf was a Senior
Executive within Nortel Networks' Emerging Markets Group. Mr. Wolf's
areas of responsibilities within that Nortel Division have included
Business and Market Planning, Operational Planning & Realization,
Carrier Product Portfolio Development & Deployment, and Operational
Support System Planning & Implementation. While at Nortel, Mr. Wolf
also played a major role in helping emerging companies develop
comprehensive business & financial plans to support Seed and Stage A
operations. Due to the close relationship between Nortel and
NorVergence, Executive Management allowed Mr. Wolf to join NorVergence
in October 2001. This has facilitated interaction between the two
firms based on previous roles and relationships.

Before joining Nortel Networks, Mr. Wolf was Head of Northeast Sales
Operations for Payback Training Systems, Inc., (1999) and pioneer in
the E-Learning industry that grew to $10 million in revenues before
his departure for Nortel. Mr. Wolf has more than 7 years of experience
within the Telecommunications and Data-Communications industries.
Previously, Mr. Wolf held leadership positions with Datatec (1998)
managing the sub-contractor relationship to the IBM account, and
Siemens, (1995-1998) where he developed and implemented cutting-edge
technology solutions for some of the largest Global 100 firms.


Susan Carol Associates  

Celebrating 15 Years in Communications

www.scapr.com <http://www.scapr.com/> 

(540) 659-0843
 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This Alex Wolf referred to in
Ms. Carol's message is obviously not the same 'Alex Wulf' who began
this issue of the Digest today.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 14 Jan 2004 00:00:36 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots


> Its quite possible that this is correct if your line is connected to
> the CO by any one of several devices under the generic name of
> "Pair-gain", which enables n copper wires to service n+m phone lines.

I had repair test distance - 9500 feet. So it looks like the DSL folks
have it wrong. I'm not served by SLC - I'm in the city proper and
there aren't any SLC installs here in Providence proper that I'm aware
of.

------------------------------

From: desiv <desiv@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:37:06 GMT


Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.19.10@telecom-digest.org:

> Paul Vader wrote:

>> desiv <desiv@attbi.com> writes:

>>> As far as I know, Caller ID is data sent over the phone line from the
>>> phone company.  When my mom called this lady, QWest detects that this
>>> woman is on the phone, and forwards the call and ANI info to Callwave.
>>> They (Callwave) then sends it to this woman's PC.  So, if this my mom

>> If this other guy was calling and trying to get past call-blocking, he
>> might, if he was behind a PBX or on an ISDN line, reprogam the number
>> emitted by their system. Telemarketers do this all the time, and I
>> think the rules which make it illegal came into effect on january 1st.

>>> Now, I'm not asking how HE did it (if he did) ... What I want to know
>>> is how would that be possible???

>> Caller-ID isn't perfect, but in this particular case it looks like some
>> sort of database corruption -- maybe this callwave thingie mixed up
>> information from two different calls?

> [Snip]

> I would agree with the database corruption theory.  The way the
> caller-name service works is that there is a dip into a (large)
> database system which looks up the name based on the calling number.
> If the calling number was shown correctly but the name was not, then
> there was some kind of screwup in the database or in communicating
> with the database, e.g. the responses to two different queries got
> transposed by this "callwave thingie."

> Nick Landsberg

> "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
> ingenious" - A. Bloch

Yeah, database corruption makes sense.

Just a heck of a coincidence that it happend to match this other
person, who has a totally different last name and happens to be
involved in a messy situation.

I guess that's why they call it a coincidence.  At least a 1 in 60,000
chance (Approx. number of people in the calling area), but a chance
nontheless.  People win the lottery with worse odds..  :-)

Thanx for helping explain Caller ID.

desiv

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: MCI's Current Market Status
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:52:32 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:04:46 -0500, Brett Nelson
<telecommunication@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Over the past few months I have received several telemarketing pitches
> from MCI. The rates are great, but ...

> The company reputation was terrible, prior to bankruptcy. How are
> they now?

> Is their billing accurate?

> Are the conversions timely and without interruption?

> Are they prompt to answer and resolve customer service problems?

> Feedback welcome.

Well considering MCI/Worldcom and its rivals Sprint and AT&T I
wouldn't go directly with any of 'em.  You can get lots better deals
through many resellers who may use any of the above services.
Personally I wouldn't trust MCI or Sprint as far as I can spit.  I
don't think AT&T has any great virtures either.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We really have some great choices these
day's don't we?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:07:50 GMT


On 12 Jan 2004 12:25:48 -0800, Dmitry posted the following to 
comp.dcom.telecom:

> Hi,

> I have a live analog telephone line and can dial out just fine, but I
> don't know what the phone number is to dial in. Is there a number I
> can dial in Washington D.C area that would tell me the number I am
> calling from?

> I realize I can call any number with caller ID, but I've heard that
> Telco has a number which provides that information also.

> Thank you in advance,

> Dmitry

Dmitry,

A couple of numbers that work here in the DC area at the moment (just
tried them) are 1010732-1-770-988-9664 and 1-800-555-1140.  The latter
one will provide you with a lot of information (line number and a
bunch of other stuff I can't interpret) as well as the calling number,
which is identified by ANI (pronounced "Annie").  I have no idea who
the sponsor of these numbers is.  I probably got them from Telecom
Digest at one point or another and keep them in my PDA.


Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:10:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: PluggedIn: TV Shoppers Get New Education in Microchips


By Daniel Sorid

SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Chip makers have long had a major
marketing dilemma: everyone loves cool gadgets, but few care to know
whose microchip, whether it be a signal processor or power amplifier,
gives life to the device.

To all but truly devoted geeks, circuits are simply far too
complicated to be interesting. Unless, that is, the chip is a
microdisplay, chips used in a new breed of thin televisions.

Choosing a television used to be as easy as picking your favorite
brand -- say Sony, Philips or Panasonic -- and then picking a size --
19-inch, 27-inch, or bigger.

Today, microdisplays are complicating the process, and it's becoming
well worth it for TV shoppers to do some research -- you could call it
homework -- on the semiconductor technologies that have already
reshaped the marketing of television.

Not since the "Intel Inside" stickers that signal the microprocessor
used in personal computers has a chip technology become such a key
consumer marketing tool.

Microdisplays, as their name suggests, are tiny video displays whose
images can be blown up to fill a big-screen television screen. TVs
built with microdisplays are expensive, but they're considerably
cheaper than plasma-based television sets.

The most popular microdisplay technology in the market today is the
digital light processor, a technology owned by Texas Instruments
Inc. (NYSE:TXN), whose name has a stronger association with
calculators than fancy TVs.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40181611

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:11:17 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: WB Network Goes For Made-For-TV Movies


By Steve Gorman

LOS ANGELES, Jan 13 (Reuters) - As it struggles to reverse a sharp
ratings decline in its target audience, the youth-oriented WB network
is moving into an area largely forsaken by the bigger broadcasters --
made-for-TV movies.

The 9-year-old network, owned by Time Warner Inc. (NYSE:TWX) and
Tribune Co. (NYSE:TRB), announced the appointment of its first
executive in charge of original movie programming, cable veteran Tana
Nugent Jamieson.

As a senior vice president for programming and made-for-TV movies, she
will report to WB's executive vice president for drama development,
Carolyn Bernstein.

Jamieson comes from Time Warner-owned cable movie and sports channel
TBS, where she served as vice president of original programming and
movies. She is credited with developing the successful TBS thriller,
"Red Water," one of the highest-rated original movies on basic cable
last year.

The first film on Jamieson's slate will be an adaptation of the
Samantha character from the "American Girls" books series, a project
seen as appealing to one of WB's chief constituencies, young female
viewers.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40178165

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:05:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Renews Contract for Prepaid Phone Cards


     AT&T Renews Contract for Prepaid Phone Cards with World's Largest
     Retailer

For Sixth Consecutive Year, Wal-Mart Selects AT&T as Primary Provider of
                         Advanced Prepaid Phone Cards

MORRISTOWN, N.J., Jan. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- AT&T today announced that
for the sixth consecutive year, it has been selected as the exclusive
provider of advanced prepaid phone cards to SAM's Club and Wal-Mart
Stores.  The terms of this new agreement extend the AT&T and Wal-Mart
contract for prepaid phone cards through January 31, 2005.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40179012

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:13:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Spinning Yarns Around the Digital Fire: Storytelling and Dialogue


Spinning yarns around the digital fire: Storytelling and dialogue 
among youth on the Internet

by David Huffaker

Contents

 From early literacy to digital fluency
Collaborations and clubhouses
Empowering children's voices
Message boards as learning tools
Instant messaging isn't a fad
Blogs and bloggers
Conclusion

http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue9_1/huffaker/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:16:28 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Globalization of Prurience: The Internet and Degradation of Women


by Indhu Rajagopal with Nis Bojin

Abstract

This paper explores some key questions: How does the Web facilitate
the production and dissemination of pornographic materials? How, and
why, does pornography that depraves and corrupts unwary children, and
exploits women, go untrammeled through the Web?

Contents

Introduction
The Web that ensnares
A conceptual framework
Conclusion

http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue9_1/rajagopal/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:21:21 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: High Court Gives Fax Firm a Busy Signal


Justices decline to rule on Fax.com's claim that a ban on unsolicited
transmissions violates its free-speech rights.

By Alex Pham, Times Staff Writer

Supreme Court to Fax.com Inc.: Take us off your list.

The nation's high court on Monday refused to hear a case claiming a
1991 federal ban on unsolicited commercial faxes violates free-speech
rights. That closed off a key defense for the closely held Aliso Viejo
company, which faces multiple lawsuits and fines for sending out junk
faxes.

By refusing to hear Fax.com's appeal, the Supreme Court left intact
the Telephone Consumer Protection Act, which bans junk faxes.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fax13jan13,1,4428752.story

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:10:59 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Supreme Court Restricts Phone Lawsuits


By GINA HOLLAND Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Tuesday that 
regional telephone companies cannot be sued under federal antitrust 
law, with its lucrative promise of triple damages to winners, by 
consumers alleging anticompetitive practices.

Justices blocked an avenue for people to sue over claims that phone 
companies are not cooperating with government-ordered competition.

The case arose in New York, where AT&T customer Curtis Trinko filed a
class action lawsuit against Verizon Communications, formerly Bell
Atlantic, arguing that Verizon provided poor service to AT&T,
resulting in phone outages at the man's office. Verizon blamed
software glitches.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40180387

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:11:07 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Oscar "Screener" Found on Internet, Academy Says


By Bob Tourtellotte

LOS ANGELES, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Hollywood's greatest fear became a
reality on Tuesday as film industry officials said a digital version
of an Oscar "screener" was seen on the Internet after months of
industry squabbling over whether sending out the videos to Academy
Award voters would lead to movie piracy.

A copy of Sony Pictures Entertainment's "Something's Gotta Give" that
was sent to an Oscar voter was found to be downloadable from the
Internet to a home PC, a spokesman for the Academy of Motion Picture
Arts and Sciences, which awards the Oscars, said.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40178697

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:11:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: FCC Seeks to Limit F-Word on US Airwaves - Sources


(First paragraph of this story contains language that may be
offensive to some readers.)

By Jeremy Pelofsky


WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Communications Commission
Chairman Michael Powell has proposed barring the word "fuck" from most
radio and broadcast television, regardless of the context, sources
close to the issue said on Tuesday.

The proposal would overturn an October FCC staff decision that ruled
the word was not indecent when U2 rocker Bono used it while accepting
an award during the 2003 live broadcast of the "Golden Globe Awards"
on the NBC television network.

To succeed, Powell will have to garner at least two other votes for
the proposal and the four other FCC commissioners are now considering
the issue, the sources said.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40181215

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    Anti-Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon! (Monty Solomon)
    Boston's Next Exciting Technology Platform -- RFID (Monty Solomon)
    "Bush in 30 Seconds" Winning Ads (Monty Solomon)
    Sony Handhelds Get FCC Nod (Monty Solomon)
    EFFector 16:37: EFF Defends Right to Own Smart Card Technology (Solomon)
    800/555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
    Habeas.com and Spam? (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
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Subject: My Email With Norvergence
From: Robert Johnson <deleted on request>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:09:14 -0800


(pat can you remove my email address)

I emailed Norvergence to see exactly what their product offering was
about, they denied it was a VoIP offering, yes say it uses
compression ... hmm, how about that, two mutually incompatable
statements, then again, I think TELECOM Digest Readers ought to see
for themselves.

     From: Timothy Mack <timothy.mack@norvergence.com>
     Subject: RE: Questions about your Service
     Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:09:00 -0500

Mr. Johnson,

        The Norvergence cost savings solution is not a VoIP
solution. As our website states, it is a patented hardware solution
that uses compression and encryption to get a voice transmission of
far greater quality and the most secure data transmission utilizing
the full bandwidth available on a T-1 circuit.

        The most obvious benefit is the savings in cost over a
standard trunk line/PBX or fractional/integrated T-1 solution, as well
as savings on cellular service.

        If you would like to set up a meeting with one of our
representatives to further discuss how this solution can benefit your
business, please follow the link below. Complete and submit the brief
form, and you will be contacted by someone in our scheduling
department for an appointment.

        Thank you for your interest in Norvergence.

http://www.norvergence.com/CS_Form/form.cfm

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Roe Ventola 
   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:33 AM
   To: Timothy Mack
   Subject: FW: Questions about your Service

Roe Ventola
Vice-President of Sales Support
Ext 4535
866-217-6678 voice
866-742-6678 Fax
Norvergence.com

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Rashan Thompson 
   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:30 AM
   To: Roe Ventola; Scott Bufton; Beverly Thomas
   Subject: FW: Questions about your Service


   -----Original Message-----
   From: Robert Johnson 
   Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:52 AM
   To: customerservice
   Subject: Questions about your Service

After reading your site, I am having trouble figuring out exactly what
your product is, if it is simply a VoIP solution why isn't it marketed
as such?, and what is the advantage for purchasing your
product/service over ordering either a Fractional T-1 that carries
both data and voice, or ordering two seperate T-1's for whatever
purpose?

Robert Johnson 
<rjohnsonjr@deleted in Digest reprint>

Robert K. Johnson Jr.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:21:51 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Anti Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon!


NOTHING BUT NET
By Alex Salkever

Yahoo's Risky Antispam Gambit

It's bypassing the Internet's standards body and implementing its own 
tech solution, a unilateral move that many experts criticize.

On Jan. 16 some of the e-mail business' biggest brains will gather on
the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus at Spam Conference
2004 . The one-day powwow will mark the event's second year and will
feature 18 presentations from a wide variety of spam fighters.

The conference is quickly becoming a hot ticket. Top-level technology
executives from the Big Four Internet service providers that handle
the majority of e-mail traffic in the country -- Microsoft's MSN (
MSFT ), Yahoo! ( YHOO ), America Online ( TWX ), and Earthlink ( ELNK ) 
 -- will probably attend. So will a host of academics and company
officials from the plethora of antispam software, hardware, and
services outfits that have sprung up over the past two years. The
Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), the body that oversees the
adoption and application of new tech standards to the Internet, will
be represented by none other than Eric Raymond, the open-source guru
and Linux legend.

http://businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2004/tc20040113_3442_tc047.htm

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:50:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Boston's Next Exciting Technology Platform -- RFID


Radio frequency identification is poised to revolutionize retail, 
starting with the lowly pallet

By Robert Weisman, Globe Staff, 1/12/2004

When a stubble-faced man strolls into a drugstore hunting for a
Mach3Turbo razor, Gillette Co. executives say the chances are as high
as one in 10 that it will be out of stock. That problem, multiplied
across an industry nettled by theft and product shrinkage through the
supply chain, costs businesses an estimated tens of billions of
dollars a year in North America alone -- not to mention the enmity of
frustrated customers.

But it has also sparked a new technology application, emerging from 
the Boston area and gaining a toehold on both sides of the Atlantic, 
that could spawn one of the biggest industries of the next five years.

This new killer app, called radio frequency identification, or RFID, 
is being tested not in the clean rooms of cutting-edge research labs 
but on commonplace crates and shipping pallets in trucks and 
warehouses. By beaming a signal from bookmark-sized  tags to 
interrogator devices, called readers, RFID heralds a new era of 
products smartly tracked through distribution and shelves amply 
stocked at point of sale.


http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/01/12/bostons_next_exciting_technology_platform/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:58:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: "Bush in 30 Seconds" Winning Ads


Press Release
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/release-winner.html

Winning Ads
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/

Finalists
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/finalists.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:18:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Sony Handhelds Get FCC Nod


By Richard Shim
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

A trio of handheld computers from Sony Electronics has received
wireless regulatory approval from the Federal Communications
Commission.

The grant for the three Clie devices came down from the U.S. federal
agency last week. While Sony representatives declined to comment on
the handhelds or their availability, wireless products are generally
released shortly after the FCC deems that they do not interfere with
other products. In the past three years, Sony has announced new
handhelds in March.


http://news.com.com/2100-1041-5140474.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:37:24 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EFFector 16:37: EFF Defends Right to Own Smart Card Technology


EFFector        Vol. 16, No. 37      January 12, 2004       donna@eff.org

A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation         ISSN 1062-9424
In the 276th Issue of EFFector:

    * EFF Defends Right to Own Smart Card Technology
    * Californians: Come to an Important E-Voting Meeting
    * EFF Secures Protection for ReplayTV Clients
    * EFF Comments on Intel's Draft Policy for LaGrande "Trusted
      Computing" Initiative 
    * EFF Helps eVisa Win Ninth Circuit Appeal, Right to Use English
      Language
    * Nominate a Pioneer for EFF's 2004 Pioneer Awards
    * New EFF T-Shirts, Hot Off the Presses
    * Deep Links (15): What Happens in Vegas, Stays...in an FBI Dossier?
    * EFF Court Docket: 02.03.04 - MGM v. Grokster; 02.09.04 - OPG v. 
      Diebold
    * Staff Calendar: 01.13.04 - Wendy Seltzer speaks at IDLELO First 
      African Conference on the Digital Commons, Cape Town, South 
      Africa; 01.22.04 - Fred von Lohmann speaks at "Washington in 
      the West" Conference, Long Beach, CA
    * Administrivia

http://www.eff.org/effector/16/37.php

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:27:47 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
> also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

Hmm.  Just tried it from a cell phone, and the ANI was *not* my cell
number.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried *my* cellular phone also from 
here, and it did not return correct results either. However my 
Vonage phone did have the correct results, and my wireline phone as
well. 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:53:25 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Habeas.com and Spam?
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.  Does
anyone know if they are for real?  Should I report the spam to them?
Should I just block anything that has Habeas headers in it? (So far,
I've never received any legitimate e-mail with Habeas headers.)

Thanks.

-Joel Hoffman
(joel@exc.com)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:04:25 -0500
From: John E. Connerat <jconner@publications.emory.edu>
Subject: Maps of Central Office Locations


I am trying to determine the location of the central office for the
404-624-xxxx area. At one time, Mapquest had a reasonably good map
service that allowed you to type in the area code and exchange, and it
would show you the approximate central office location for the
information that you typed in.

I can no longer find that service on Mapquest. Is it available
anywhere else?

I am trying to troubleshoot a DSL connection and I do not know how far
away the service location (404-624-xxxx) is from BellSouth's central
office in that neighborhood. It may come as no surprise, but the DSL
"helpdesk" has no idea either.

Thanks,

John Connerat
A

------------------------------

From: John Bartley <johnbartley@email.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:23:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Wireless and Internet Phones not Yet Reliable For 911


> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:57:17 PST, John Bartley  wrote:

>> All this may be true, but how quickly will it be answered?  In the
>> PSAP for my county, the call comes in on a non-emergency number.  Not
>> all PSAPs can prioritize IP-orignated 911 calls alongside 911 calls
>> from the wireline PSTN.

>> I'd suggest calling the local non-emergency number, asking for a
>> supervisor, and then finding out if your IP-originated calls will be
>> answered just like 911 calls from wireline users.

<snip>

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That is all sort of a moot point in my
> case; here is why.  The City of Independence Police Department
> Administrative number 332-1700 is answered by the same *one person*
> (depending on time of day/day of week) who responds to 911 calls for
> police and the Montgomery County Sheriff and the Sheriff's
> administrative number 330-1000. In other words, one person does all
> the 911 and the administrative phone work for the City of Independence
> and the County of Montgomery. Coffeyville however has their own police
> department and 911 dispatcher, also a single person (per time of day
> and day of week) who does it all, including the Sheriff sub-station
> there. When you live in a rural area of s.e. Kansas with a total
> (county) population of less than thirty thousand people -- eight
> thousand people live here in our town -- you can get away with that. I
> am not sure, but I think she answers the 'oh' zero calls on the city
> hall centrex as well. I have never called 911 since I believe 911
> should be for *dire emergencies* only and not just to ask questions,
> etc, and the couple of times I have called 332-1700 (police) or
> 332-2500 (city clerk) I have never had it ring more than two times. I
> think once I was told that on average, the phone person gets a total
> of perhaps twenty calls per day on all the lines she supervises, or
> less than one call per hour.

> I am not that worried about it, especially when I look out my window
> across the street and see the Police Chief raking up leaves in his
> widowed mother's back yard (house catty-corner from me [where he used
> to live as as a small child, and she still resides.]) By the way, I
> am sort of shocked to hear you suggest I should use Vonage to dial
> 911 'just to test it out or ask a supervisor about it'. PAT]

Please read what I wrote, which was:

<snip>
I'd suggest calling the local *non-emergency* number

<snip>

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Good point, my bad. Thanks for the 
correction.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: marsgal42@hotmail.com (Laura Halliday)
Subject: Re: FCC Seeks to Limit F-Word on US Airwaves - Sources
Date: 14 Jan 2004 09:39:16 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.20.18@telecom-digest.org>:

> (First paragraph of this story contains language that may be
> offensive to some readers.)

> By Jeremy Pelofsky

> WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Communications Commission
> Chairman Michael Powell has proposed barring the word "f***" from most
> radio and broadcast television, regardless of the context, sources
> close to the issue said on Tuesday...

Thus codifying the bizarre double-standard of U.S.  television,
totally weirded out on sex and language, but turning a blind eye to
violence of all kinds.

The standards in other countries are a little saner. Most countries
consider the context and time of day. An example that comes to my mind
immediately was Phoenix, done by the ABC some years ago
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103511/).  Among other things it had
nudity, violence and profanity.  But the show was about the Major
Crimes Squad of the Melbourne Police (not the nicest of people
themselves...), tracking down some obscene scum who had set off a car
bomb. Again, not very nice people.

In context, it was completely appropriate. Edited to U.S.  standards
it would have lost all its impact.


Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg                    pied a terre..."
ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W       - Hospital/Shafte

------------------------------

Reply-To: Me <toeDOTkneeATgteDOTnet@gnilink.net>
From: Me <NoSpam@Spam.net>
Subject: Re: FCC Seeks to Limit F-Word on US Airwaves - Sources
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:42:35 GMT


Jeeez,

Count on Michael Powell and the FCC to tackle the really important and
earth shattering issues of the day.

Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.20.18@telecom-digest.org:

> (First paragraph of this story contains language that may be
> offensive to some readers.)

> By Jeremy Pelofsky

> WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Federal Communications Commission
> Chairman Michael Powell has proposed barring the word "fuck" from most
> radio and broadcast television, regardless of the context, sources
> close to the issue said on Tuesday.

> The proposal would overturn an October FCC staff decision that ruled
> the word was not indecent when U2 rocker Bono used it while accepting
> an award during the 2003 live broadcast of the "Golden Globe Awards"
> on the NBC television network.

> To succeed, Powell will have to garner at least two other votes for
> the proposal and the four other FCC commissioners are now considering
> the issue, the sources said.

>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40181215

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I would credit Powell with having
a modicum of good taste in his vocabulary skills. *That word* has only
appeared in this Digest twice; once many years ago in the early 1980's
then yesterday. Today's message from 'me' makes number three. Halliday
thoughtfully blocked it out in her reply. That word, like 'kike' and
'nigger' should certainly be used in context when appropriate, but
avoided in routine discussion. That's my opinion; not to say I have
never used the F-Word when IMO it was 'warranted' in anger, etc.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: yeltrabnhoj@email.com
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL - Idiots
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:18:02 GMT
Organization: (reverse to reply)  (John Bartley, K7AAY, Portland OR)


On 10 Jan 2004 15:46:33 GMT, kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
wrote:

<snip>

> Verizondroids tell me it's not available, that I'm close to 5 miles from the
> CO.

> Now I know for a fact that I'm nowhere near 5 miles from the
> CO. More like a mile maximum. So I went on their web site and sure
> enough I get the 'future notification' page. I plug in the phone
> number of the restaurant below me which is served on the same cable
> group, same CO and guess what, it's available.

<snip>

Their test reads like you are 5 miles out, probably because of

 a) lines adequate for voice, but not higher frequencies, or 
 b) a 'pair gain' device, which 'gains a pair' for another phone user, at
    the cost of the higher frequencies needed for DSL.

The copper wiring of phones is really old tech, and telcos don't want
to spend the $$ on 'physical plant' if they can avoid it.  However,
there are ways to game the system.

You could order a second phone line with DSL, then drop the first and move
the old number to the new line.

You can also start kvetching about 'poor fax performance', 'fax calls
ring through and answer but don't connect', 'snow and black horizontal
lines and bars on faxes'.

The tariffs, regulations under which the phone companies are REQUIRED
to deliver, often have fax performance standards included, because fax
is such an old technology.  However, DSL came late to the game, and by
then the telcos figured out if they induced state PUCs to leave
performance standards for DSL out of the tariffs, they would be under
less pressure to deliver.


Nobody but a fool goes into a federal counterrorism operation without duct tape - Richard Preston, THE COBRA EVENT.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, this stalling for time rather 
than invest money and time in needed repairs is nothing new with telco.
Back in the early 1970's as Illinois Bell was getting ready for the new
phone system called 'ESS' (Electronic Switching) they would not do 
anything they didn't absolutely have to do to repair the old crossbar,
panel and stepping switch mechanisms. My office phone in those days
was WEbster-9-4600 on a stepping switch I think, in the WABash central
office. Over fifty years old, the 'Wabash Cannonball' as it was often-
times called, did not get its name from nothing. If you had the phone
to your ear when you called any number in the downtown area that was
not one of the 'newer' (at that time) crossbar offices, you *always*
got a loud bang in your ear as the call was setting up. And if it got
to be too noisy (because for example, the switch train derailed on the
way to its destination)  you just hung up and dialed again. I asked
my service rep Miss Prissy (she was trained directly by Ernestine) if
the company's intent while waiting for 'the day'  (of cutover to ESS)
was to just let Wabash go to hell and do nothing. Miss Prissy was
understandably shocked by my phraseology. But it was true; at least
two calls or maybe three had to be made to get inside plant work done
in those latter days of stepping switch 'service'.   PAT]  

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    More Than One-Third of Internet Users Now Have Broadband (Monty Solomon)
    Cingular, AT&T Wireless in Merger Talks - Sources (Monty Solomon)
    'Meetups' for 900+ Senatorial Congressional Gubenatorial (Monty Solomon)
    Explore Mars With The Program That NASA Scientists Use (Monty Solomon)
    EPIC Alert 11.01 (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Jack Hamilton)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (John Levine)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Phil Earnhardt)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Tom Betz)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Dave Garland)
    Re: My Email With Norvergence (Dave Temkin)
    Re: My Email With Norvergence (Phil Earnhardt)
    Re: My Email With Norvergence (John R. Covert)
    Re: My Email With Norvergence (Hank Karl)
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:31:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: More Than One-Third of Internet Users Now Have Broadband


146 million (69%) Adults in U.S. Are Now Online; 37% of Them 
Have Broadband Connections

ROCHESTER, N.Y., Jan. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- The numbers of adults who are
online at home, in the office, at school, library or other location
continue to grow at a modest rate.  Broadband use is growing much more
rapidly.

In research among 2,033 adults surveyed by telephone in November and
December 2003, Harris Interactive(R) found that 69% of adults are now
online, up from 67% in late 2002, 64% in late 2001, 63% in 2000 and
56% in 1999.  When we first began to track Internet use in 1995, only
9% of adults reported they were online.

Internet access increases at home and at work

This growth in Internet penetration is a result of increased Internet
access at both home and work.  The proportion of adults who are now
online at home has risen to 61%, up from 57% in 2002 and 52% in 2001.
Those online at work have risen modestly to 31% from 28% in 2002 and
2001.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401142048_PRN__NYW113

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:34:25 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cingular, AT&T Wireless in Merger Talks - Sources


By Jessica Hall

PHILADELPHIA, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Cingular Wireless is in talks to
acquire AT&T Wireless Services Inc. ( NYSE:AWE ), using the financial
power of its two parent companies to create the United States' largest
wireless telephone company, people familiar with the situation said on
Wednesday.

There is no formal offer on the table, but the negotiations between
Cingular and AT&T Wireless, respectively the No. 2 and No. 3 U.S.
carriers, have progressed significantly beyond the on-again-off-again
talks over the past year, the sources said.

T-Mobile and other carriers also have expressed interest in AT&T
Wireless, but Cingular has been the most aggressive and vocal about
its desire to forge a deal, the sources said.

Suggesting a bidding war could be on the horizon, Japan's NTT DoCoMo
Inc. ( TOKYO:9437 ) and Nextel Communications Inc. ( NASDAQ:NXTL )
have also approached AT&T Wireless, and Britain's Vodafone Group Plc
(LSE:VOD) is expected to consider a similar deal, The Wall Street
Journal reported on Wednesday evening, citing people familiar with the
matter.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401150550_RTR_N14253190

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:47:33 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: 'Meetups' for 900+ Senatorial, Congressional Gubenatorial


Meetup.Com Opens 'Meetups' for 900+ Senatorial, Congressional, 
Gubenatorial Candidates in over 500 Races Nationwide

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 14, 2004--Meetup Inc. today announces
it has enabled Meetups for the supporters of every declared
Senatorial, Congressional and Gubernatorial candidate running for
office in 2004.

Meetups are monthly events that take place at local establishments
(restaurants, bars, cafes, libraries, community centers) in just about
every city and small town in the United States.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401142040_BWR__BW5680

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:03:39 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Explore Mars With the Program That NASA Scientists Use


Explore Mars with the program that NASA scientists use to operate Spirit

http://mars.telascience.org/

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:02:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EPIC Alert 11.01


=======================================================================
                           E P I C  A l e r t
=======================================================================
Volume 11.01                                           January 14, 2003
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                            Published by the
              Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
                            Washington, D.C.

            http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.01.html

======================================================================
Table of Contents
======================================================================

[1] US-VISIT Launched; U.S. Pushes for Passenger Info
[2] Defense Department Report Blasts Total Information Awareness
[3] Judge Sides With EPIC on FOIA Quick Review, But Rules for DOJ
[4] FOIA Document Covers Palladium Privacy, Unique Identifier Issues
[5] Officials Question DC Police Handling of Political Demonstrations
[6] News in Brief
[7] EPIC Bookstore: The Naked Crowd
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events

http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.01.html

------------------------------

From: Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:32:27 -0800
Organization: Copyright (c) 2004 by Jack Hamilton.
Reply-To: jfh@acm.org


joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote:

> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.  Does
> anyone know if they are for real?  Should I report the spam to them?
> Should I just block anything that has Habeas headers in it? (So far,
> I've never received any legitimate e-mail with Habeas headers.)

The company is for real, and one of their employees has been active on
one of the mail admins' mailing lists.

Their business principle: Sell poetry to be included in outgoing mail
headers.  The poetry is copyrighted, and malefactors who fake their
poetry can be pursued under the copyright laws -- apparently an easier
thing to do than pursuing an anti-spam action.  For details, see:

   <http://www.habeas.com/servicesHowSWEWorks.html>

They claim to have had some legal victories.  You should report the
spam to them, and maybe they'll do something.

There's nothing in their methodology that prevents spam from being
sent, or headers from being forged.

Jack Hamilton
jfh@acm.org

If men are to wait for liberty until they become wise and good in slavery,
they may indeed wait for ever.
                        - Lord MacCaulay

------------------------------

Date: 15 Jan 2004 06:27:09 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.

Yes, Habeas is real, and someone has been sending out buckets of spam
for bogus drugs with equally bogus Habeas marks.

They are, to put it mildly, not happy about it.  In the short run
they're adding every address sending forged Habeas spam to their
DNSBL, which is not a bad one to use to block spam.  In the longer run
they're trying to figure out who's behind the spam, which will be
tricky since it's all sent through hijacked PCs and points back to a
web site in China.  They've sued people before for misusing their mark
and if they can figure out who to sue, they will most certainly sue
this one.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"A book is a sneeze." - E.B. White, on the writing of Charlotte's Web

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:26:55 -0700
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:53:25 GMT, joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
wrote:

> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.  Does
> anyone know if they are for real?  Should I report the spam to them?

There is a link on their home page to report abuses.

Apparently, Habeas has already been alerted about those spam messages.
Habeas.com has a press release on their website about the abuses. That
release and follow-up has been recently discussed in the newsgroup
news.admin.net-abuse.email under the thread: 

"habeas.com notices..."

You can subscribe to the newsgroup or put that string into
www.deja.com to use the deja/google archive to see the discussion.

Short summary: a spammer has hijacked a number of computers and is
sending out Habeas watermark e-mails from these machines. Habeas has
been unable to stop these e-mails yet; they have instead created a
list of the IP addresses where such messages are coming from. There
has been discussion of the value of the watermark if spammers are
willing to forge it -- that someone must also use this blacklist to
get Habeas filtering.

I recommend anyone interested in the topic read the discussion there.

> Should I just block anything that has Habeas headers in it? (So far,
> I've never received any legitimate e-mail with Habeas headers.)

According to the postings in the discussion, that's exactly the
strategy that some e-mail admins are taking.

Last year, there apparently was a spammer, Topica, who had a Habeas
license and was sending out spam with it. Apparently, Topica's Habeas
license was pulled at some point. One can see press releases on the
habeas.com website announcing when Topica signed up, but there are no
announcements about pulling their service. It's also unclear if Topica
was sued by Habeas for damaging the credibility of their service.

All agree: Habeas must vigirously pursue their copyright if their
service is going to gather trust in the industry. They must locate and
litigate against this new spammer. And, IMHO, they must litigate
against companies who buy a Habeas license and then use it to send out
spam.

> -Joel Hoffman
> (joel@exc.com)

--phil


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some time ago, that Topica outfit made
an offer to me to purchase the telecom mailing list; they offered me
a dollar for each name on the list; they said they would take it over
but keep me as the moderator/editor. I did not know as much about them
as I do now, but I am surely glad I did not accept their offer. They
said they could help with distribution problems. Its sort of scary to 
think about now. At the time, when I investigated the list of
discussion groups Topica was sponsoring, it seemed like a good oppor-
tunity for the Digest.  Pardon me for thinking.  And that was even
back before the onset of my brain desease.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:48:03 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Anything


joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote in news:telecom23.21.8@telecom-
digest.org:

> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.  Does
> anyone know if they are for real?  Should I report the spam to them?
> Should I just block anything that has Habeas headers in it? (So far,
> I've never received any legitimate e-mail with Habeas headers.)

You can Habeas' statement on the matter here:

<http://habeas.com/report/#forgery>

and more discussion of this event here: 

<http://tinyurl.com/ypk4m>

It's not really Habeas-warranted.  It looks to be either a) an attack
on Habeas' reputation or b) a "joe-job" on notorious spammer Alan
Ralsky, who operates the advertised domains -- the current NANAE and
SPAM-L consensus is that it's a disgruntled partner of Ralsky trying
to bring Habeas' legal team down on him.


|I always wanted to be someone,|   Tom Betz, Generalist    |
|but now I think I should have |   Want to send me email?  |
|been a wee bit more specific. | <http://tinyurl.com/ps2u> |

------------------------------

From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:59:21 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information


It was a dark and stormy night when joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
wrote:

> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.  Does
> anyone know if they are for real? 

Yes, they are for real.  The way their system works is a copyrighted/
trademarked message (a haiku!) is embedded in the mail headers.
Mailers using this are supposed to be *verified* opt-in or
pre-existing business relationship.
http://www.habeas.com/servicesComplianceStds.html 

So far, they have won at least one lawsuit against a spammer who was
using their mark without complying.  They also appear to maintain an
online blacklist of violators who don't straighten up, which can be
used by ISP mail systems for spamblocking.

How well the system works (and whether or not they can successfully nail
offshore spammers) is another question.

------------------------------

From: dave@ordinaryworld.com (Dave Temkin)
Subject: Re: My Email With Norvergence
Date: 15 Jan 2004 06:34:03 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


You are incorrect in saying that they're mutually inclusive
(compression & IP).  I can send compressed voice over: ATM MPLS Frame
Relay and even POTS (though the reasons for that would be beyond me).

My guess is that they're doing VoATM, from the talks that they deliver
a DSL-like service (which is based on ATM)

Robert Johnson <deleted on request> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.21.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> (pat can you remove my email address)

> I emailed Norvergence to see exactly what their product offering was
> about, they denied it was a VoIP offering, yes say it uses
> compression ... hmm, how about that, two mutually incompatable
> statements, then again, I think TELECOM Digest Readers ought to see
> for themselves.

>      From: Timothy Mack <timothy.mack@norvergence.com>
>      Subject: RE: Questions about your Service
>      Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:09:00 -0500

> Mr. Johnson,

>         The Norvergence cost savings solution is not a VoIP
> solution. As our website states, it is a patented hardware solution
> that uses compression and encryption to get a voice transmission of
> far greater quality and the most secure data transmission utilizing
> the full bandwidth available on a T-1 circuit.

>         The most obvious benefit is the savings in cost over a
> standard trunk line/PBX or fractional/integrated T-1 solution, as well
> as savings on cellular service.

>         If you would like to set up a meeting with one of our
> representatives to further discuss how this solution can benefit your
> business, please follow the link below. Complete and submit the brief
> form, and you will be contacted by someone in our scheduling
> department for an appointment.

>         Thank you for your interest in Norvergence.

> http://www.norvergence.com/CS_Form/form.cfm

>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Roe Ventola 
>    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:33 AM
>    To: Timothy Mack
>    Subject: FW: Questions about your Service

> Roe Ventola
> Vice-President of Sales Support
> Ext 4535
> 866-217-6678 voice
> 866-742-6678 Fax
> Norvergence.com

>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Rashan Thompson 
>    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:30 AM
>    To: Roe Ventola; Scott Bufton; Beverly Thomas
>    Subject: FW: Questions about your Service

>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Robert Johnson 
>    Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:52 AM
>    To: customerservice
>    Subject: Questions about your Service

> After reading your site, I am having trouble figuring out exactly what
> your product is, if it is simply a VoIP solution why isn't it marketed
> as such?, and what is the advantage for purchasing your
> product/service over ordering either a Fractional T-1 that carries
> both data and voice, or ordering two seperate T-1's for whatever
> purpose?

> Robert Johnson 
> <rjohnsonjr@deleted in Digest reprint>

> Robert K. Johnson Jr.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A note I got from Vonage one day said
their service would work on dial-up just as well as cable or DSL. But
I had to wonder, why would anyone dial through their ISP just in order
to (then) dial up a voice connection?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: My Email With Norvergence
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:33:00 -0700
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:09:14 -0800, Robert Johnson <deleted on
request> wrote:

> The Norvergence cost savings solution is not a VoIP
> solution. As our website states, it is a patented hardware solution
> that uses compression and encryption to get a voice transmission of
> far greater quality and the most secure data transmission utilizing
> the full bandwidth available on a T-1 circuit.

It would be interesting to know exactly what patents Mr. Ventola is
discussing. What exact patent numbers? Who owns the patents?  If
Norvergence doesn't own the patents, do they have some exclusive
license to use them?

> Robert K. Johnson Jr.

--phil


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The big huge package I got from the
Norvergence lawyers when they served me had several pages of exhibits
inside it referring to their patents.  Let me see if I can find it
in my files somewhere ... 

The Patent was granted to them in Docket Number RM-613 and was
entitled "Reliable Converged Voice, Video and Data Over Packet" and
was invented by "Skemer, et al" . 

They asked (in the 131 page document submitted) that the Patent Appli-
cation not be published pursuant to 35 USC 122 (b)(2). This was filed 
on 10-17-2003 by Rick Martin, Patent Attorney, of 416 Coffman Street
in Longmont, CO 80501  Phone 303-651-2177  and attorney Martin asked
that the filing fee of $810.00 be charged to his patent office account
Deposit Account number 50-0617, and that the Director of Patents was
authorized to charge/credit the above account as needed. I am not
going to sit here and type in all the pages.  Anyone who is interested
in this invention "Reliable Converged Voice, Video and Data over
Packet" invented by a Mr. Skemer, et al can inquire of the Patent
Office about Docket Number RM-613 filed on 10-17-2003 or perhaps ask
attorney Martin. Maybe Mr. Skemer would tell you about his scheme. 
Or perhaps our very own Bill Levant of Blue Bell, PA could explain
some of the above mumbo-jumbo I typed in, all of which is just as 
clear as mud. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:43:18 -0500 (EST)
From: John R. Covert <nospam@covert.org>
Subject: Re: My Email With Norvergence


> they denied it was a VoIP offering, yes say it uses compression
> hmm, how about that, two mutually incompatable statements

What's mutually incompatible about that?

VoIP stands for "Voice over IP" meaning that the data is carried
in packets specifically using the IP protocols (TCP/IP and UDP/IP).

It's possible to purchase a point-to-point T1 line that is NOT in
any way associated with the internet (or in which some fraction of
it goes to the internet and some fraction goes point-to-point)
and send data over the point-to-point portion of the T1 line using
some other protocol rather than IP, possibly just raw compressed
data packets.

In fact, I'm familiar with products dating way back into the early
80s which could be used on point-to-point data circuits to provide
compressed voice connectivity between PBXs -- long before VoIP was
even invented.

/john

------------------------------

From: Hank Karl <notgiven@nothere.com>
Subject: Re: My Email With Norvergence
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:06:44 -0500
Organization: NETPLEX Internet Services - http://www.ntplx.net/


You don't need VoIP to do compression.  VoFR uses compression but is
not IP.  H.320 uses compression (e.g. G.722) but not IP.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:09:14 -0800, Robert Johnson <deleted on
request> wrote:

> (pat can you remove my email address)

> I emailed Norvergence to see exactly what their product offering was
> about, they denied it was a VoIP offering, yes say it uses
> compression ... hmm, how about that, two mutually incompatable
> statements, then again, I think TELECOM Digest Readers ought to see
> for themselves.

>     From: Timothy Mack <timothy.mack@norvergence.com>
>     Subject: RE: Questions about your Service
     Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:09:00 -0500

> Mr. Johnson,

>        The Norvergence cost savings solution is not a VoIP
> solution. As our website states, it is a patented hardware solution
> that uses compression and encryption to get a voice transmission of
> far greater quality and the most secure data transmission utilizing
> the full bandwidth available on a T-1 circuit.

>        The most obvious benefit is the savings in cost over a
> standard trunk line/PBX or fractional/integrated T-1 solution, as well
> as savings on cellular service.

>        If you would like to set up a meeting with one of our
> representatives to further discuss how this solution can benefit your
> business, please follow the link below. Complete and submit the brief
> form, and you will be contacted by someone in our scheduling
> department for an appointment.

>        Thank you for your interest in Norvergence.

> http://www.norvergence.com/CS_Form/form.cfm

>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Roe Ventola 
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:33 AM
>   To: Timothy Mack
>   Subject: FW: Questions about your Service

> Roe Ventola
> Vice-President of Sales Support
> Ext 4535
> 866-217-6678 voice
> 866-742-6678 Fax
> Norvergence.com

>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Rashan Thompson 
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:30 AM
>   To: Roe Ventola; Scott Bufton; Beverly Thomas
>   Subject: FW: Questions about your Service

>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Robert Johnson 
>   Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:52 AM
>   To: customerservice
>   Subject: Questions about your Service

> After reading your site, I am having trouble figuring out exactly what
> your product is, if it is simply a VoIP solution why isn't it marketed
> as such?, and what is the advantage for purchasing your
> product/service over ordering either a Fractional T-1 that carries
> both data and voice, or ordering two seperate T-1's for whatever
> purpose?

> Robert Johnson 
> <rjohnsonjr@deleted in Digest reprint>

> Robert K. Johnson Jr.

------------------------------

From: Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: Anti Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon!
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:26:50 -0800
Organization: University of Washington


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Monty Solomon wrote:

> Yahoo's Risky Antispam Gambit
> It's bypassing the Internet's standards body and implementing its own
> tech solution, a unilateral move that many experts criticize.

Yahoo is one of the biggest spammers.

My private domain at home was hit with a denial of service attack from
their bulk.scd##.yahoo.com domains.  Hundreds of SMTP connections in
rapid fire, all to an address ("ashutosh") that doesn't even exist,
swamped my DSL line.

When I blackholed that netblock at my router, Yahoo moved the origin
of the spam to a different netblock; the familiar whack-a-mole game.
I finally had to search out all of Yahoo's netblocks and block them
all.

I contacted Yahoo repeatedly to get them to stop, and ran up against a
brick wall every time.  It was clear that they didn't care.

I believe that the sole purpose of Yahoo's "anti-spam" conference is
to sabotage any legitimate attempt at blocking spam.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:25:18 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Last Laugh! Simple.Net -- The Fine Print


Today I got one of those "Cash this and sign up" checks in the mail. 
This one was for $3.25 (whoopee) from Simple.net -- cashing the check 
would sign me up for internet dialup at $17.95/month.  Of course I 
ripped it and tossed it, but for some reason I decided to read the 
"Terms of Offer" sheet it came with.

Wow!

Here's an interesting quote:

> This fee will be billed...  preferably on your local phone bill
> through ESBI, Integretel, ACI or other.  Alternatively, the fee may
> be billed directly by invoice, on your utility bill, credit card, or
> by other methods.  You also agree that we may bill the fee by ACH
> debit from the account that the enclosed check has been deposited
> into ...

I love that they've invented a check that _takes money out_ of your
account when you deposit it; the last time I heard of something like
that was in the Infocom game "Bureaucracy" (by Douglas Adams of HGTTG
fame).  Can you imagine the fun you'd have once you gave Integretel
authorization to dip straight into your checking account?  I shudder
to think.

As I said I already ripped the check.  Now, I think I'll go burn the
pieces, just to be on the safe side.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Gordon,  you live around the Chicago
area don't you ... if I lived there I would have taken that check
for $3.25 to one of the currency exchanges on the south side of 
Chicago and cashed it there; just scribbled some name on the back
side of it and offered the cashier a tip of a dollar so so for her
assistance. Maybe Simple.net would have sent their ACHs to the 
currency exchange's bank account. The company must have assumed you
were sort of simple also!  PAT]

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:43:56 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: VOIP, Video-Conferencing Apps Face Security Risk (eWeek)


http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1435890,00.asp
http://www.eweek.com/print_article/0,3048,a=116401,00.asp

VOIP, Video-Conferencing Apps Face Security Risk
January 13, 2004

Multimedia applications such as voice over IP telephony and video
conferencing could be vulnerable to security breaches because of flaws
in the way a major telephony standard is being used.

Some vendors' implementations of the H.323 protocol, an International
Telecommunications Union standard for communication among telephony
and multimedia devices, are vulnerable to denial of service attacks
and, to a lesser extent, the execution of code and system takeovers
through buffer overflows, according to an article
<http://www.uniras.gov.uk/vuls/2004/006489/h323.htm>advisory issued
Tuesday by the United Kingdom's National Infrastructure Security
Co-Ordination Centre (NISCC).

Microsoft Corp. and Cisco Systems Inc. were the only vendors to issue 
patches and advisories as of Tuesday afternoon, even though products from 
several other vendors also could be at risk.

  RELATED LINKS

   <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1433383,00.asp>Senator Preps Bill 
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   <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1426229,00.asp>A Giant Leap for 
<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1426229,00.asp>VOIP

   <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1386806,00.asp>Microsoft 
Connecting Web Conferencing with 
IM<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1386806,00.asp>

   <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1411150,00.asp>Cable, Phone 
Industry Move to Sell 
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   <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1408099,00.asp>Avaya, Polycom 
Partner on Desktop Video 
<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1408099,00.asp>Conferencing

As part of a series of security bulletins it issued on Tuesday, Microsoft 
released one rated "critical" for its 
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-001.asp>Internet 
Security and Acceleration Server 2000 software, pointing to a flaw in the 
H.323 filter that could allow an attacker, through a buffer overflow, to 
take over control of the system.

<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1435543,00.asp>Microsoft issued a 
batch of security bulletins on Tuesday. To read more about the 
vulnerabilities, <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1435543,00.asp>click 
here.

Cisco, of San Jose, Calif., in a 
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/products_security_advisory09186a00801ea156.shtml>security 
advisory said that all products that run Cisco's IOS network system 
software and support H.323 packet processing are affected by a 
vulnerability that can cause denial of service attacks. Cisco supports 
H.323 in its IOS software with version 11.3T and later.

Other vendors that identified potential vulnerabilities were Nortel
Networks Inc., Radvision Corp. and Tandberg. Avaya Inc., Lucent
Technologies, Fujistu Ltd. and Hewlett-Packard Co. told the NISCC that
they are investigating whether their products are vulnerable to the
security flaw.

Among those reporting that their products are not vulnerable were
Apple Computer Inc., CyberGuard Corp., eSoft Inc., Hitachi Ltd., the
NetBSD Project, Objective Systems Inc., Red Hat Inc., Symantec
Corp. and uniGone.

In the United States, the Computer Emergency Response Team
Coordination Center also issued an
<http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/749342>advisory about the
vulnerabilities in H<http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/749342>.323
implementations. It noted that one possible workaround, along with
vendor patches and upgrades, is to block ports 1720/tcp and 1720/udp
on network parameters.

According to CERT, more than 50 vendors had not yet reported whether
their products were vulnerable.

Check out eWEEK.com's Security Center at 
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From: Christopher R. Sabine <jsabine@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Curious About Call Routing Through Vonage
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:03:21 -0500


Hello all.  I just opened an account with Vonage about three weeks
ago, and the service is working great for me with my Broadband
connection.  However, I discovered a few oddities about how calls
seems to be routed through the Vonage network.

First, my Vonage number is in Columbus, Ohio, and my ANI is consistent
with my Vonage account.  However, when I tried to use Vonage to call
an in-state toll-free number in Ohio, I got a fast busy.  I was able
to determine that toll calls are routed through New York, despite my
ANI and Vonage number being in Columbus and the corporate headquarters
of Vonage being in Edison, NJ, a different LATA from New York.

Also, I do have occasion to make international calls using Vonage.
When When I made a call to Norway and another to New Zealand, the ring
tones were NANP-like ESS tones, not those you associatd with Norway or
New Zealand.

I'm just wondering if this is a product of a direct connection of a
VOIP gateway.

Thanks,

Chris. 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You will run into those oddities about
intra-state and interstate calling of 800 numbers using Vonage. The
whole system of inter/intra 800 calling was devised long ago, and I
doubt telco will change it. To the *called party* (who is the one
paying for the call, you are NOT in Ohio, regardless of what your
phone tries to tell them. Vonage customers are all 'in' New York/New
Jersey, etc regardless of their physical location. For instance, I
am in Kansas. My 'real' Vonage number is (in effect) a 'virtual'
number in the 415 area code, just like your Vonage number in Ohio
is a 'virtual' number. But assuming you are somewhere in Ohio, why
waste the 'minutes' you bought with your Vonage account when you 
could call the toll-free number from your direct landline phone at
no charge. And if you are NOT in Ohio, then why not call the company
on their *non-Ohio only toll free* number -- in other words, their
toll number -- using Vonage since you paid for it already anyway?

And regards your international calls, I *think* Vonage is just giving
you a 'dummy ring' while in the background they are completing your
call. Do you get answers on your international calls?

By the way, any person or company who wants to try Vonage for a month
free (the second month) should email me and get an e-coupon to use
for free service. I will send you a link to click on to get Vonage
on a trial basis after you get the little Cisco ATA box from them.
Send a not for pub note to ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu and ask.  PAT] 

------------------------------

From: BV124@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:19:18 EST
Subject: Re: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question  


Just tried it on my cell (AT&T Wireless) in the 818 NPA and my landline 
(Pacific Bell) also in the 818 NPA.

It answered back with ANI = "00818-XXX-XXXX for the landline and ANI = 
"62818-XXX-XXXX for the cell.

Hmmmm.

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject:  Re: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Date:  15 Jan 2004 05:52:02 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.21.7@telecom-digest.org>:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
>> also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

> Hmm.  Just tried it from a cell phone, and the ANI was *not* my cell
> number.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried *my* cellular phone also from 
> here, and it did not return correct results either. However my 
> Vonage phone did have the correct results, and my wireline phone as
> well.

Uhmm, could it be the ANI being reported was for the trunk from the
wireless carrier that carried the call?

That's the problem with ANI and cell phones that 9-1-1 centers have
been having for years.

Rodgers Platt

------------------------------

From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com>
Subject: Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:04:01 -0600
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy-nospam-.com


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:07:50 GMT, Michael D. Sullivan
<nospam@camsul.com> wrote:

> On 12 Jan 2004 12:25:48 -0800, Dmitry posted the following to 
> comp.dcom.telecom:

>> Hi,

>> I have a live analog telephone line and can dial out just fine, but I
>> don't know what the phone number is to dial in. Is there a number I
>> can dial in Washington D.C area that would tell me the number I am
>> calling from?

>> I realize I can call any number with caller ID, but I've heard that
>> Telco has a number which provides that information also.

>> Thank you in advance,

>> Dmitry

> Dmitry,

> A couple of numbers that work here in the DC area at the moment (just
> tried them) are 1010732-1-770-988-9664 and 1-800-555-1140.  The latter
> one will provide you with a lot of information (line number and a
> bunch of other stuff I can't interpret) as well as the calling number,
> which is identified by ANI (pronounced "Annie").  I have no idea who
> the sponsor of these numbers is.  I probably got them from Telecom
> Digest at one point or another and keep them in my PDA.

> Michael D. Sullivan
> Bethesda, MD, USA
> Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
> also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

I get what sounds like a remote dial tone when it is all done.  I
didn't try to dial to see what would happen.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I got the same thing! Sounds a lot
like a loop-around doesn't it?  Well, I know one old phreak who took
the 'dial tone challenge' and discovered no matter what digits were
pressed, he could not break dial tone. No matter what, on his landline
phone, either of his cellular phones or his Vonage phone. It just
wouldn't work ... and inspired by the pleasant surprise he found from
years gone by with the old Unitel network of United Airlines and its
local loop-around/WATS extender line in Chicago, he tried furiously
all the things in his bag of tricks to get past that remote dial tone.
Alas, nothing.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:09:43 -0500
From: No Spam <nospam@resi.com>
Subject: Re: Analog Phone Line Question


Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com> responded to Dmitry on the
subject of Re: Analog Phone Line Question on Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:07:50
saying:

> On 12 Jan 2004 12:25:48 -0800, Dmitry posted the following to
> comp.dcom.telecom:

>> Hi,

>> I have a live analog telephone line and can dial out just fine, but I
>> don't know what the phone number is to dial in. Is there a number I
>> can dial in Washington D.C area that would tell me the number I am
>> calling from?

>> I realize I can call any number with caller ID, but I've heard that
>> Telco has a number which provides that information also.

>> Thank you in advance,

>> Dmitry

> Dmitry,

> A couple of numbers that work here in the DC area at the moment (just
> tried them) are 1010732-1-770-988-9664 and 1-800-555-1140.  The latter
> one will provide you with a lot of information (line number and a
> bunch of other stuff I can't interpret) as well as the calling number,
> which is identified by ANI (pronounced "Annie").  I have no idea who
> the sponsor of these numbers is.  I probably got them from Telecom
> Digest at one point or another and keep them in my PDA.

> Michael D. Sullivan
> Bethesda, MD, USA
> Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
> also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

Actually, the toll-free number (800-555-1140) says that it's giving
you ANI, but it appears to belabelling Calling Party Number as ANI in
some cases.  The two are very different.  (I called it and it read the
Calling Party Number I have programmed in my PBX, not the ANI or
Billing Telephone Number that is sent out through the network.)  This
would explain Dr.  Joel's experience from his cell phone as well.

If you are trying to identify a residence line, or a POTS line in a
small business, it is probably safe to use, but it will not work
reliably for a business with a PBX and ISDN-PRI trunks, or analog
trunks in a hunt group.

Joshua

My opinions are my own and not necessarily that of my employer although 
sometimes we agree. 

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: MCI's Current Market Status
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:19:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Joseph wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:04:46 -0500, Brett Nelson
> <telecommunication@sympatico.ca> wrote:

 {Much snipped]

> Well considering MCI/Worldcom and its rivals Sprint and AT&T I
> wouldn't go directly with any of 'em.  You can get lots better deals
> through many resellers who may use any of the above services.
> Personally I wouldn't trust MCI or Sprint as far as I can spit.  I
> don't think AT&T has any great virtures either.

>            remove NO from .NOcom to reply

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We really have some great choices these
> days don't we?  PAT]

And we have Judge Green to thank for it, Pat.

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Block

------------------------------

Date: 15 Jan 2004 06:31:31 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Vonage Virtual Number Crap Shoot
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Now, I don't think that the "Keys" are all one exchange, so that does
> look like a crap shoot.  But in all other cases, if you select an
> exchange that is a local call to your mother, you'll get a number in
> that exchange.

I think that Bellsouth has been doing some long overdue rate center
merging and the Keys are now treated as one rate center.  See 
http://members.dandy.net/~czg/lca.php?exch=219350

The guy is claiming that Vonage's support told him that you can't pick
a rate center.  That seems hard to believe.

------------------------------

From: BCDIO@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:59:20 EST
Subject: Re: AT&T Reserving Numbers For Imaginary Customers


Mr. Townson - 

I am trying to secure an 800 number for my small business that is in
its start-up phase.  I hired a private investigator and having done
some investigating myself found that the number's resporg is Worldcom
WilTel 01 and that the party being billed is AT&T.  AT&T continues to
reserve the number over and over and I cannot get Worldcom to release
the number to my business.  I found an article online at the link
below to which you commented in a "Moderator's Note:" stating...
"One thing AT&T is still doing that the FCC is going to make them quit
doing before long is reserving numbers for imaginary customers who do
not exist. They are doing this with 'good' numbers they want to hang
on to. I've tried to get 800 numbers for customers of my service only
to have the RESPORG tell me that the number 'belongs to' AT&T. When
you dial it, it goes to intercept, and no actual customer ever seems
to show up, yet the number keeps getting reserved over and over for
sixty days at a time. I recently talked directly to a staff attorney
at the FCC who asked me to call him personally with a list of 800
numbers in this category and I am compiling them now.  PAT"

(See http://digest.textfiles.com/TELECOMDIGEST/vol13.iss0801-0844.txt)

AT&T is not "selling" the number and Worldcom claims that they cannot
release it.  Can you tell me who to contact at the FCC and/or if this
is now legal for AT&T to do.  Your comments are from 1993, and the law
may have changed since then.  All assistance would be appreciated!!!

Sincere thanks,

Beth-Anne

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What I would say now, eleven years
after that note above was written is that it would appear AT&T and
Worldcom are still at their old tricks. You might wish to speak with
an 800 number recovery specialist for assistance on this matter. I
would suggest you contact Judith Oppenheimer for professional assis-
tance on this. Ms. Oppenheimer deals with resporgs all the time and
knows how to get things done through them. Ms. Oppenheimer is in New
York City, and to email her, go to http://telecom-digest.org and 
there on the front page of our web site, look for her picture and a
short mention. Click on the picture or the email link. In fact you 
can email her at the address http://1800TheExpert.com which should
also work fine. Please mention that you read about her in TELECOM
Digest.  Good luck with getting the number released.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: panoptes@iquest.net (Daniel W. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Date: 14 Jan 2004 12:13:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


desiv <desiv@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.20.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> Just a heck of a coincidence that it happend to match this other
> person, who has a totally different last name and happens to be
> involved in a messy situation.

One question: Is there any chance that your mother's friend has
received a phone call from that "other person" at some point?  (I
noticed that the friend seemed to recognize the name, anyway.)

> I guess that's why they call it a coincidence.  At least a 1 in 60,000
> chance (Approx. number of people in the calling area), but a chance
> nontheless.  People win the lottery with worse odds..  :-)

If the database corruption happened at Callwave and the other person
had called the friend, the "60,000" can be replaced by the number of
people who have called the friend.

------------------------------

From: Dink <dink@myrealbox.com>
Subject: Re: Maps of Central Office Locations
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:38:10 -0600
Organization: Frijoles Refritos


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:04:25 -0500, John E. Connerat
<jconner@publications.emory.edu> wrote:

> I am trying to determine the location of the central office for the
> 404-624-xxxx area. At one time, Mapquest had a reasonably good map
> service that allowed you to type in the area code and exchange, and it
> would show you the approximate central office location for the
> information that you typed in.

> I can no longer find that service on Mapquest. Is it available
> anywhere else?

> I am trying to troubleshoot a DSL connection and I do not know how far
> away the service location (404-624-xxxx) is from BellSouth's central
> office in that neighborhood. It may come as no surprise, but the DSL
> "helpdesk" has no idea either.

> Thanks,

> John Connerat

http://www.dslreports.com/coinfo

This will show a map. As you put the mouse pointer on one of the CO
tiny squares on the map, the CO name is displayed in a tip and on the
status bar. Just mouse around until you find the square whose CO name
matches the one returned by the NPA-NXX search.

Elsewhere on this site, you can enter the full number and street
address and receive an estimate of the CO distance.

------------------------------

From: ijaz ahmed <ijaz18@hotmail.com>
Subjet: Submitting Articles to TELECOM Digest
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:28:05 +0500


Articles About Telecommunication

Dear Sir / Madam Hi !

Happy New Year to you .

My name is Ijaz Ahmed . I am a 35 years, male from Lahore, Pakistan.

I am working in Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited Since last 13
years .

I am a Graduate and working as an Engineering Superviser in PTCL .

I am an Ericsson Expert . I have a lot of Telecommunication trainings
and International working experience in United Arab Emirated , and
China in the fields of Telecommunication .

I have worked in China Ericsson ( China ) , Emirates telecommunication
Corporation ( UAE ) .

I have also been selected for Ericsson Dallas ( USA ) .

Dear Sir / Madam I have also worked in the Research & Development
section of telecommunication for many years .

I have written some articles about different fields of telecommunication
like Mobile communication , wireless communication , satellite
communication , transmission media used in communications , computers
networking techniques such as Wans , Lans and Mans , TCP/IP and other
Protocols used in communication after readings a lot of books and after
years of practical trainings and work in the different fields of
telecommunication .

I would request you to please publish some of my work , so that people
who have an idea about computer networking and modern telecommunications
could get benefit from my work . My articles in the telecommunication
will definately be appreciated by the knowledge loving persons . If you
allow me , i will send some of my articles by fax or e-mail to you so
that you can publish it for the benefit of knowledge loving reader .


My e-mail is : ijaz18@hotmail.com

My Home Address is : 502 RAZA BLOCK , ALLAMA IQBAL TOWN, LAHORE,  PAKISTAN

My Phone number is :+ 92 300 410 2217

Thanks & take care.

Waiting for your reply.

Ijaz Ahmed


TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for writing to the Digest. I
would be pleased to examine some of your writing about your telecom
experiences in the places you mentioned, and about telecom engineering
in general. Submit your articles to ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu and
I request that you use *only* ascii text for your articles and no html
in your submissions. Please make a reasonable effort -- to the extent
of your knowledge of English grammer -- to edit and format your 
material as you see it done in this and other issues of the Digest.

Perhaps the editors/publishers/moderators of other newsgroups/Digests
on internet who read this message will want to correspond with you
also.  Thanks again for writing from Pakistan. In addition to this
public reply, I also sent email to Mr. Ahmed.   PAT] 

------------------------------

From: steven.christie1@ntlworld.com (Steve Christie)
Subject: Telecom Classifieds
Date: 15 Jan 2004 14:55:31 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: My Email With Norvergence (Alex Wulf)
    Re: My Email With Norvergence (Stanley Cline)
    Re: Norvergence Bait and Switch (Alex Wulf)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Nick Landsberg)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Jay Hennigan)
    Re: Curious About Call Routing Through Vonage (John A. Covert)
    Re: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question (Clarence Dold)
    Re: Caller ID and Spying??? (desiv)

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From: norvscam@hotmail.com (Alex Wulf)
Subject: Re: My Email With Norvergence
Date: 15 Jan 2004 14:48:40 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Robert,

It's actually not a VoIp offering.  It's Voice-over-ATM.  The box that
they use on the customer prem is a standard Adtran box that converts
standard TDM voice and Data traffic to ATM. The voice is then
compressed using the ADPCM standard to 32k per voice channel, thereby
compressing up to 24 voice channels to 768k or half a T-1.  The rest
of the T-1 is then available for internet.  There is no magic here.
But besides the technical issue.  Why would you want to deal with a
company that is less than honest with you before you're even a
customer? 

Just wait till you sign up with a 5 year commitment and see what kind
of customer service you get for a $89 T-1.  There are plenty of other
companies out there offering discount services without having to deal
with the likes of Norvergence.  


Alex

Robert Johnson <deleted on request> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.21.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> (pat can you remove my email address)

> I emailed Norvergence to see exactly what their product offering was
> about, they denied it was a VoIP offering, yes say it uses
> compression ... hmm, how about that, two mutually incompatable
> statements, then again, I think TELECOM Digest Readers ought to see
> for themselves.

>      From: Timothy Mack <timothy.mack@norvergence.com>
>      Subject: RE: Questions about your Service
>      Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:09:00 -0500

> Mr. Johnson,

>         The Norvergence cost savings solution is not a VoIP
> solution. As our website states, it is a patented hardware solution
> that uses compression and encryption to get a voice transmission of
> far greater quality and the most secure data transmission utilizing
> the full bandwidth available on a T-1 circuit.

>         The most obvious benefit is the savings in cost over a
> standard trunk line/PBX or fractional/integrated T-1 solution, as well
> as savings on cellular service.
> 
>         If you would like to set up a meeting with one of our
> representatives to further discuss how this solution can benefit your
> business, please follow the link below. Complete and submit the brief
> form, and you will be contacted by someone in our scheduling
> department for an appointment.

>         Thank you for your interest in Norvergence.

> http://www.norvergence.com/CS_Form/form.cfm

>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Roe Ventola 
>    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:33 AM
>    To: Timothy Mack
>    Subject: FW: Questions about your Service
> 

> Rob Ventola
> Vice-President of Sales Support
> Ext 4535
> 866-217-6678 voice
> 866-742-6678 Fax
> Norvergence.com

>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Rashan Thompson 
>    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:30 AM
>    To: Roe Ventola; Scott Bufton; Beverly Thomas
>    Subject: FW: Questions about your Service

>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Robert Johnson 
>    Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:52 AM
>    To: customerservice
>    Subject: Questions about your Service

> After reading your site, I am having trouble figuring out exactly what
> your product is, if it is simply a VoIP solution why isn't it marketed
> as such?, and what is the advantage for purchasing your
> product/service over ordering either a Fractional T-1 that carries
> both data and voice, or ordering two seperate T-1's for whatever
> purpose?

> Robert Johnson 
> <rjohnsonjr@deleted in Digest reprint>

> Robert K. Johnson Jr.

------------------------------

From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Re: My Email With Norvergence
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:44:07 UTC
Organization: Roamer1 Communications - Dunwoody, GA, USA
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org


In article <telecom23.21.1@telecom-digest.org>, Robert Johnson wrote:

> I emailed Norvergence to see exactly what their product offering was
> about, they denied it was a VoIP offering, yes say it uses
> compression ... hmm, how about that, two mutually incompatable

<snip>

When I looked at the specs for the MATRIX box from the brochure on
their web site, it just screamed "voice over ATM".  What exactly is so
revolutionary about VoATM?  (To their credit, it does appear they've
implemented some proprietary compression, but the core of the voice
offering definitely appears to be VoATM.)

Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/

"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

------------------------------

From: norvscam@hotmail.com (Alex Wulf)
Subject: Re: Norvergence Bait and Switch
Date: 15 Jan 2004 14:58:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Kim,

Well its clearly a case of bait and switch.  You should contact the
Connecticut's Dept of Public Utilities as well as the Attorney
General's Office to report this fraud.  By the way what kind of box
did they send you anyway?  MFG, Model etc?  Its more than likely some
retail box that's available for under $100.

What's clear is that they haven't developed some special product. 
They've just switched your lines over to Norvergence for toll calling
and are probably paying your DSL/Cable/Cell bill.  In exchange for
that they give you a 5 year lease (they like to call it a rental). 
You obviously don't need the box to make it work.  That was just part
of the sales scam to make you think they actually developed some
custom hardware or whatever lies they like to post on their website. 
It also is the box they're lieing to the finance company about -that
is worth thousands of dollars and that's why they loan the money for
it.  They're just a communications reseller.

Good Luck.

Alex

Kim Barker Craven <info@creativeservices.info> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.19.1@telecom-digest.org>:

> Hi Patrick,

> I found your name when doing a search for Norvergence. I wanted to
> find out what you can tell me about them.

> I signed on with them in August, 2003 for telecom services for my
> home-based business for a what turns out to be too-good-to-be-true
> rate. Included was T1 connection, unlimited long distance on land
> lines and cell phones.

> Unfortunately, it turned out to be a case of bait and switch, when at
> the minute of installation, with the installer out at the street they
> called and said T1 was not available in my residential area, but they
> would provide cable (we had dsl) which is, and I quote, "almost as
> good" as T1.

> They said my contract would reflect a discount and they would fax
> revised contract right over. The revived contract never came but the
> bills persist.

> What really galls me is they delivered a Matrix Soho box which I am
> supposed to pay $200/mo for 5 years to rent. We have not used this box
> since day one.  It appears to be nothing more than a router/firewall. 
> Am I correct?

> I am trying to cancel service but they are unresponsive. Further their
> financing company, Dolphin capital, is threatening to ruin my credit
> rating because I refuse to pay for the box.

> What can you tell me about these characters?

> Thanks you for your interest.

> Kim Barker Craven
> President
> CREATIVE SERVICES
> Strategic Marketing & Graphic Design
> 64 Bower Road, Madison, CT 06443
> 203.318.9000 / fax 203.318.9001
> kim@creativeservices.info
> www.creativeservices.info

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not mean to sound hateful to the 
> folks at Norvergence; I really don't. But I am not a human Google
> search program. I have spent **all day today** -- since 10 AM Tuesday
> morning, seeking out and pulling all the Norvergence references -- bad
> or good, but mostly bad -- out of our archives to give to Mike Sullivan 
> who has agreed to represent me pro-bono as needed in a pending lawsuit
> by the Norvergence people against myself. You see, they called again
> yesterday with demands, etc. First their lawyer, and I did not return
> his call. Then Ms. Susan Carol, who described her job as attempting
> to get accurate PR about the firm out on the net. I returned her call,
> and found myself 'getting volunteered' into a conference phone call
> on January 19 with some executives at Norvergence. I asked John Levine
> what I should do; also Mike Sullivan. 

> John Levine suggested using 47 USC 230 to stop them dead in their
> tracks (pertinent section says no electronic publisher can be held
> liable for messages written by others; in other words absolute
> immunity) but my first thought was to try and be a little kind and
> more pleasant. After all, I personally have no knowlege of Norvergence
> and no reason to just give them bad coverage. Mike Sullivan suggested
> gathering up everything in the archives about the company and
> forwarding them to him for review, which I did earlier today, starting
> about eight hours ago. :(  The more I did that, struggling with emacs
> and archives files of humongous size, the more irritated I got, to the
> point that now I don't really care if I ever talk to those folks at
> Norvergence again or not. John may have been correct: refer them to
> 47-USC-230 and let it go at that; even though that's *not* the way I
> believe the Digest should be handled. 

> I have Ms. Carol's biography of Alex Wolf, an executive at Norvergence
> and I may publish that here soon to see if that will smooth things
> over a little.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:16:05 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to Phil Earnhardt:

[Snip to Pat's Note:]

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some time ago, that Topica outfit made
> an offer to me to purchase the telecom mailing list; they offered me
> a dollar for each name on the list; they said they would take it over
> but keep me as the moderator/editor. I did not know as much about them
> as I do now, but I am surely glad I did not accept their offer. They
> said they could help with distribution problems. Its sort of scary to 
> think about now. At the time, when I investigated the list of
> discussion groups Topica was sponsoring, it seemed like a good oppor-
> tunity for the Digest.  Pardon me for thinking.  And that was even
> back before the onset of my brain desease.   PAT]

Ah, so now we have one data point about how much spammers are willing
to pay for a mailing list.

Let's see, if 1% of the people on a list of 1,000 are gullible then
they are spending $1,000 to attract to attract 10 people to their
scams.  Thus, the average person who "bites" must net them at least
$100.  Probablty more.

The "hit rate" is probably way lower tha 1% tho, thus, the "phish who
bites" is probably gonna get soaked for something like a thousand
bucks or more.

Then again, there may be more money in re-selling that list to 10 or
100 other spammers then in spamming itself.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well they told me at that time that
what they paid was (a) proportionate to the size of the list, and (b)
what they thought the list was worth in their sole opinion. Smaller
lists got more money per name; larger lists got less per name.
(Larger lists likely to have more no-good names, etc.) And of course
in the case of exploder addresses on the list, they only would pay
one dollar, regardless of only one 'real' name on the list or a 
thousand names. In other words if I mail to 'telecom-exploder@your-site'
and you in turn automatically distribute the Digest to a few hundred
people (as IBM used to do years ago before the then sysadmin got in
a snit and started pitching the Digest in the waste basket without
handing it out at all) then I would still get only one dollar for that
entry. And Topica had a few spies on our list here at one time and
I guess what they did was wise up and discover they didn't have to
pay me anything, they could just manually make up their own mailing
list from names they found in messages, etc. Of course, if I had
'signed on the dotted line' in those days, then they would have been
the official possessor of whatever this thing is worth, they could
have changed my passwords and I would have been out in the cold anytime
they so chose. 

Part of the deal, you see, where the dollar per name as concerned was
I was to deliver the names to them *on their server* then begin
administering the Digest *on their server* at their leisure, etc. I am
quite certain some day I would have awakened, gone to my computer and
found out that my password did not work any longer, and telecom was
their 'property'. That's how they wanted to do it, I am sure, which
puts a different light on the 'dollar per name' angle. Topica approached
lots and lots of moderated Usenet newsgroups in 1995-97 and made
offers like that to the group moderators/list custodians. That was no
big secret, you could look on the Topica home page in those days and
click on a link where they told you how to do it: 'Moderators and
list managers, click here to be in partnership with Topica and make
money from your list'. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:55:25 -0800


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some time ago, that Topica outfit made
> an offer to me to purchase the telecom mailing list; they offered me
> a dollar for each name on the list; they said they would take it over
> but keep me as the moderator/editor. I did not know as much about them
> as I do now, but I am surely glad I did not accept their offer. They
> said they could help with distribution problems. Its sort of scary to 
> think about now. At the time, when I investigated the list of
> discussion groups Topica was sponsoring, it seemed like a good oppor-
> tunity for the Digest.  Pardon me for thinking. 

At one time, Topica operated bonafide discussion mailing lists, with
membership by request/subscription.  They were ethical and honest, and
made their money with a small advertising .sig line appended to the
messages.

They have morphed into a full blownspam-for-hire outfit and are now widely
blacklisted.  TTBOMK any legitimate mailing lists they once hosted have
moved on.  Those that haven't moved don't have very good propagation as
Topica's netblocks are filter fodder worldwide.  They made an attempt to
hide their spamming under different domains than topica.com, one of the
first and most notorious being email-publisher.com. Now they've stooped to
spamming their spamming services, bragging that they comply with the new
you-CAN-SPAM law.  Opinion is that their spammed advertisement itself
isn't compliant. Rule Number One. Go figure.   

You made a wise choice.  Most of the 'net didn't see it coming and
defended them for some time. 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yeah, and look how many of the old 
moderated newsgroups are not even around any longer that we had back
in the 1980-90's on account of Topica's dirty trick buying out so many
moderators, who sold out their discussion groups for the fifty or
hundred dollars it made them. PAT] 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:42:28 EST
From: John R. Covert <nospam@covert.org>
Subject: Re: Curious About Call Routing Through Vonage


Patrick wrote:

> why waste the 'minutes' you bought with your Vonage account when you
> could call the toll-free number from your direct landline phone at
> no charge

Calls to 800-service numbers are free from Vonage phones on all rate
plans.

> from your direct landline

Maybe your landline is being used by someone else, or maybe you only
have Vonage service at your current location.

> you get the little Cisco ATA box from them.

I thought new customers get the new Motorola box.

/john


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well John, there will *always* be some
reason that no other phone is available momentarily for one reason or
another. I guess this theoretical person didn't have a cell phone to
use either, and there was no payphone close, or there was but the
weather in Boston was sub-zero at the time so he was disinclined to go
outside.  I myself would have been inclined in those circumstances to
either walk to a pay station or told the other person to please let
*me* use the landline phone, etc. 

Regards the 'new Motorola box', in the nearly one year that I have been
with Vonage, I got the Cisco ATA-186 box. Maybe the new 'new customers' 
are getting Motorolas, I do not know. Are you still getting those 
horrible bitter cold conditions there you had most of last week? PAT]

------------------------------

From: dold@800-555-11.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:29:27 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.21.7@telecom-digest.org>:

>>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
>>> also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

>> Hmm.  Just tried it from a cell phone, and the ANI was *not* my cell
>> number.

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried *my* cellular phone also from 
>> here, and it did not return correct results either. However my 
>> Vonage phone did have the correct results, and my wireline phone as
>> well.

> Uhmm, could it be the ANI being reported was for the trunk from the
> wireless carrier that carried the call?

> That's the problem with ANI and cell phones that 9-1-1 centers have
> been having for years.

I once chased that down as some kind of a hack of my company
voicemail.  We had an 800 number for voice mail access, and a _lot_ of
the ANIs were the same.  I checked against all of the employee ANIs.
Not there.  Called it, reorder tone.  Sent it to PacBell fraud,
Cellular One trunk.  At that time, anyone in the San Francisco Bay
Area that used a Cellular One cell phone showed an ANI of
510-893-0781, even if they weren't in the 510 area.

It also caused grief for my daughter, stuck on a lonely road in the
middle of the night, when she called AAA for road service.  The ANI
caused her to get routed to a center in Oakland, and they were not at
all helpful, not being able to figure out where she was, and
claiming... anyway, that wound up with her recording being played for
all of the AAA reps in three offices, and a change in procedures.

I just tried the 800-555-1140 from my AT&T cell phone and it reports
my ANI as 62+ my cell phone number.  From my office phone, it returns
the main ANI, not my DID office number, just like CID does.


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

------------------------------

From: desiv <desiv@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:28:38 GMT


True ...

I'd asked that before and she said no.  (Well, my mom said that her friend
said NO).  He's never called.

But I work Network support, so I take that with a grain of salt.
(Of course I didn't load any non-standard software on my computer ... :-)

And since I've never used CallWave, I'm not sure how accurate it is ...

Let's say he did call her once, if only to see who answered the phone
and then hung up.  (Giving her the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe he
called and she never talked to him.)

Then it's just the number of people in her database, and she might not
have noticed other glitches.  She possibly only noticed the one with
his name, since she didn't see it very often, if ever, on the CallWave
app.

OK, so we go from 1 in 60,000 to 1 in a personal phonebook database ... :-)
You're right, much easier to handle.


desiv

> One question: Is there any chance that your mother's friend has
> received a phone call from that "other person" at some point?  (I
> noticed that the friend seemed to recognize the name, anyway.)

>> I guess that's why they call it a coincidence.  At least a 1 in 60,000
>> chance (Approx. number of people in the calling area), but a chance
>> nontheless.  People win the lottery with worse odds..  :-)

> If the database corruption happened at Callwave and the other person
> had called the friend, the "60,000" can be replaced by the number of
> people who have called the friend.

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    Book Review: "Wireless Hacks", Rob Flickenger (Rob Slade)
    Re: Anti Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon! (John Levine)
    Re: Anti Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon! (Mark Crispin)
    Credit Counseling Telescam Phone Calls (Mark Crispin)    
    Re: Caller-ID and Spying (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (John Bartley)
    Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent (Monty Solomon)
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From: Rob Slade <rslade@sprint.ca>
Organization: Vancouver Institute for Research into User 
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:24:44 -0800
Subject: Book Review: "Wireless Hacks", Rob Flickenger


BKWLSHCK.RVW   20031110

"Wireless Hacks", Rob Flickenger, 2003, 0-596-00559-8, U$24.95/C$38.95
%A   Rob Flickenger
%C   103 Morris Street, Suite A, Sebastopol, CA   95472
%D   2003
%G   0-596-00559-8
%I   O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
%O   U$24.95/C$38.95 707-829-0515 fax: 707-829-0104 nuts@ora.com
%O   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005598/robsladesinterne
      http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005598/robsladesinte-21
%O   http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005598/robsladesin03-20
%P   286 p.
%T   "Wireless Hacks"

Unlike most pieces that simply list the various wireless standards,
chapter one provides excellent coverage of both regulations and
protocols, giving clear and practical explanations of the benefits and
drawbacks of the various conventions, and recommending the best one
for any particular purpose.  This sets the tone for the book as a
whole, providing advice and information that far exceeds details and
suggestions found in other wireless works.  (I must say, though, that
the exegesis of Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum and Frequency Hopping
Spread Spectrum is still lacking.)  Chapter two shows how to use
Bluetooth (mostly with cell phones, Mac OS X, and Linux) for some
amazing applications.  Descriptions of many monitoring tools are
furnished in chapter three, starting with system utilities.  There is
solid guidance on using these instruments in combination for best
effect.  Antennae, cables, and the use of minimalist equipment as
routers and infrastructure is covered in chapter four.  Five deals
with antennae in more detail.  Long distance point-to-point links are
examined in chapter six.  Wireless security, in chapter seven,
discusses the usual WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) cracks and SSID
(Station Set IDentifier) issues, but also reviews SSH (Secure SHell)
and tunnelling.

For anyone dealing seriously with wireless networks, there is a wealth
of information collected here that you will only find elsewhere after
prolonged searching.

copyright Robert M. Slade, 2003   BKWLSHCK.RVW   20031110


======================  (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)
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------------------------------

Date: 16 Jan 2004 14:03:05 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Anti Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon!
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> My private domain at home was hit with a denial of service attack from
> their bulk.scd##.yahoo.com domains.  Hundreds of SMTP connections in
> rapid fire, all to an address ("ashutosh") that doesn't even exist,
> swamped my DSL line.

Just wondering, how long ago was that?

> I believe that the sole purpose of Yahoo's "anti-spam" conference is
> to sabotage any legitimate attempt at blocking spam.

Hmmn.  Yahoo isn't putting on a conference, anti-spam, pro-spam, or
otherwise.  What leads you to think that they are?

>> Just wondering, how long ago was that?

> The whack-a-mole game with Yahoo's netblocks took place last November.

Odd, I'll talk to them.

>> I believe that the sole purpose of Yahoo's "anti-spam" conference is
>> to sabotage any legitimate attempt at blocking spam.
>> Hmmn.  Yahoo isn't putting on a conference, anti-spam, pro-spam, or
>> otherwise.  What leads you to think that they are?

> The article implied that Yahoo had called that conference.

You must have read a different article than the rest of us.  The one
we read made it quite clear that the conference is by and at MIT.
Yahoo is giving away domain keys software, but that's unrelated to the
conference.

Regards,

John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
http://www.taugh.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:52:42 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: Anti Spam Conference at MIT Coming Soon!
Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing


On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, John Levine wrote:

>> My private domain at home was hit with a denial of service attack from
>> their bulk.scd##.yahoo.com domains.  Hundreds of SMTP connections in
>> rapid fire, all to an address ("ashutosh") that doesn't even exist,
>> swamped my DSL line.

> Just wondering, how long ago was that?

The whack-a-mole game with Yahoo's netblocks took place last November.

As far as I know, the attack is still ongoing.  Something is still hitting
the SMTP port, but it's not getting anywhere because it's now blocked at
the DSL modem.  I can tell from the lights when there's incoming traffic
but nothing outgoing.

>> I believe that the sole purpose of Yahoo's "anti-spam" conference is
>> to sabotage any legitimate attempt at blocking spam.

> Hmmn.  Yahoo isn't putting on a conference, anti-spam, pro-spam, or
> otherwise.  What leads you to think that they are?

The article implied that Yahoo had called that conference.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I was told that Yahoo wanted the
conference -- which is going on today (Friday, January 16), as I
write this -- and they (Yahoo) made a gift to MIT to underwrite
the costs associated with the conference and the expenses of some
of the main participants, but that Yahoo was not 'in control of'
nor dictating the 'direction' the conference went or the conclusions
to which the participants arrived. Perhaps by Monday or Tuesday of
next week, someone who participated or observed the conference will
write a report to the Digest readers. All we can really do, IMO, is
keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. 

As much as I personally take a libertarian attitude toward the net and
the people who make it up, the problems associated with spam have 
gotten *so bad* that something has to give. I am reminded of how our
inner city neighborhoods in large cities have gotten, and comparisons
to the internet. Some of the lousiest (in terms of violent crime and
general filthy living conditions) in our cities *used to be* among the
finest years ago. The internet used to be that way also. People in
Chicago, for example, of the 1920-30's era would find it absolutely
unthinkable how far certain areas of the south and west sides have
disintegrated in more recent years. 

People who were around the net in 1980-85 would find how the net has
gotten in 2003-04 to be just as 'unthinkable'. You old timers
remember, I am sure, how the idea of any kind of government controls
on the net back in 1980-85 would have been met with horrified messages
about Hitler, et al from so many quarters. The Anarchists will take
care of themselves, thank you, no government need apply. Who could
have imagined in 1980-85 that there would be serious thought given to
government controls on the net. It was absolutely unthinkable. But by
the mid to late 1990's as the concept of government control on how
email could be sent and by whom became more 'thinkable' it was mostly
too late.

I consider a conference like the one at MIT to be a sort of last-ditch
stand or effort by the Anarchists to do their own thing, to protect
their real-estate from the gangs of mauruders who have tried to take
it over. And I hope pride and personal ego does not cause a null
effect on the whole thing; that some compromise or consensus can be
achieved. Let's just bite the bullet and do what has to be done to
reform the net and restore it to its rightful glory. If at least there
can be some standards set, a few things that everyone can agree on.
Spam won't disappear overnight, like some magic act, but every dent
made will help. 

The inner city neighborhoods got into their condition because the very 
same problems, pride, ego, politics standing in the way. We are now
seeing *massive* efforts made to at least partially restore their
status as decent places to live. Maybe the internet won't have to get
that bad -- go that far -- before we all get our acts together.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Credit Counseling Telescammers Ignoring Do-Not-Call list
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:47:13 -0800
Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing


So much for the Do-Not-Call list.  I've been on it since inception.

At 9:29AM today I got a prerecorded telemarketing call with a useless
Caller ID (404-523-0000).  The robot thought that the Qwest No
Solicitation announcement was a human answering the call, and
proceeded to babble its spiel.

By the time it rung and I picked up the phone it was at the tail end,
so the only thing that I caught was that it was a prerecord for some
credit counseling scam.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mark, did you try 404-523-0000 to see
if anyone was there?  Four zeros following a prefix *can* be valid.
For example, there is a NNN-0000 number here in Independence. It seems
like an odd number, but they do have them and often times they are
working. And also, was the credit counseling service a non-profit?
Aren't there different rules for some of those places like charities
and politicians?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Spying???
Date: 16 Jan 2004 11:52:59 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


desiv <desiv@attbi.com> wrote 

> For the phone number, it shows my mom's number.  BUT for the name, it
> shows someone else's name!!!

I think there's a software bug in the display.  It's showing the name
from one call, and the number from another.  It's possible that maybe
one of the calls came in without the name and simply reused the prior
one.  Or some strange call came in and fouled the memory.

Try calling the computer with the caller-ID suppressed, or from
someone who has an unlisted number.  See how it handles that.

If you can get a conventional simple caller-ID device, try hooking
that up to the line and calling it a few times from various phones and
seeing the output.

------------------------------

From: John Bartley <johnbartley@email.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:47:18 -0800
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?


Correspondent wrote:

> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email,"

No, sir, it does not.  It offers individual users and customers a way
to pass through properly configured filters reliably, as well as an
enforcement mechanism which actively pursues violators, but it relies
on a) you, your sysop or ISP to properly design a filter, and b)
receipients of spam abusing it's copyright to report it.

> and that one
> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail. 

No, their purpose is to alow its users to send spam-free e-mail.

> Does anyone know if they are for real?  

Yes, they are. 

I receive many e-mails signed with Habeas, and not yet one spam.

> Should I report the spam to them?

I'd make sure to report these violations to Habeas at
http://habeas.com/report

> Should I just block anything that has Habeas headers in it? (So far,
> I've never received any legitimate e-mail with Habeas headers.)

<snip>

No, I would not.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not think it matters any longer to
report individual instances of spam; everyone knows how bad it has
gotten and you just clutter up the help desks and spam report desks
of the world. Its like calling the police on the west side of Chicago
to report your purse was snatched. Police very politely take your
report, and maybe even put out a flash bulletin on the radio ('be on
the lookout for man described as thus and so') to humor you so you
think they are 'going to put an end to crime'. Like with spam, it 
does not go away because of anyone's 'report' to a help desk somewhere.
Yes, there is something to be said for keeping statistics and hope-
fully assigning individual responsibility for individual crimes. But
spam will be greatly reduced when the main players -- for example, at
the conference today -- decide it will end. Hopefully the main players
won't let personal politics and ego prevent them from doing thier
jobs.  PAT

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:44:42 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent


By Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Two Internet entrepreneurs are suing Network Solutions and
Register.com for infringing on their e-mail and domain naming patent.

Troy K. Javaher and Frank M. Weyer, operating under the newly formed 
company Nizza Group, on Monday filed a patent infringement lawsuit in 
U.S. District Court in California against the two domain registrars.

The suit accuses Network Solutions and Register.com of selling rights 
to Web URLs and e-mail addresses that infringe on a patent that was 
granted to Javaher and Weyer on Dec. 20, 2003. The patent covers the 
method of assigning URLs and e-mail addresses of members of a group 
such that the "@" sign is the dot in the URL. For example, if a group 
used a so-called third-level URL, www.john.smith.com, the e-mail 
address would be john@smith.com.

In the complaint, Nizza Group specifically indicates that Network 
Solutions and Register.com are infringing the patent by selling 
rights to URLs and e-mail addresses under the .name domain. The .name 
domain is called a third-level domain, because it uses an extra dot, 
as in the case of john.smith.name. Even though the database of .name 
domains is owned and operated by Global Name Registry (GNR), it was 
not named in the lawsuit.

http://news.com.com/2100-1038-5141810.html

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How in the *hell* could those turkeys
have been granted a patent on December 20, *2003* for a system which
has been in common use for about twenty years?  What was the Patent
Office thinking about when they granted the patent in that case? Maybe
I could go apply for a patent on the system of Usenet newsgroups,
telling them I thought of it first when I invented the Internet, then 
sue all the other guys who 'infringed on my ideas'.  Geeze.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Ken Lyle <Klyle@bscable.com>
Subject: Norvergence
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:58:01 -0500


Pat,

I left you a message on your cell. Our Lawyers suggested I find all
the info I can on Norvergence on the web about complaints. Your page
seems to have the most on it.

Like I said on your voicemail, there is no real way for me to prove
who I am to you. We are a company in PA www.bscable.com

We signed up for Norvergence and it immediately turned into a
nightmare. I am trying to email or call everyone who complained about
them on your site to find out what kind of luck they had getting out
of this or if they had to sue Norvergence. Trying to get all my ducks
lines up in a row.

Are you allowed to send me a file of everything you had on them on
your website? What if I had our Lawyer call you to prove to you that
they do not represent Norvergence in any way? I take it from reading
this that Norvergence is trying to sue you to take these posts down? I
I don't understand how they could do that. It's free speech. Your not
posting it, anyone who can access your site is posting it. They are
not allowed to express their opinions?

This whole thing is getting bigger and crazier the more I read into
it. I thought we were alone here, but apparently we are not!

Any info would be appreciated!

Thank you,

Ken
Controller
B.S. Cable Co., Inc.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You don't have to have your lawyer call
me to prove anything. To get all I know at this point about Norvergence
just go through the Telecom Archives ( http://telecom-digest.org )
since around the first of December searching for the articles about
them; There are plenty -- most are unfavorable -- and help yourself to
all you want. Especially look in the past two weeks, in the section of
the Archives called TELECOM_Digest_Online through the thousand or so
messages there during the past month.  You'll find your letter of 
inquiry today in there also. Each time I send out an issue of the 
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    Diebold Gets Stay in California (Monty Solomon)
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    CBS Shields Pigskin Fans From Ads (Monty Solomon)
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:40:13 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Diebold Gets Stay in California


By Kim Zetter

SACRAMENTO, California -- Delay was the order of the day in 
California Thursday as the secretary of state's Voting Systems Panel, 
or VSP, postponed announcing any sanctions against Diebold Election 
Systems.

Voting activists from across California converged on the secretary of
state's office to see what action, if any, the government would take
against Diebold for violating voting-system certification laws and to
see whether the state would certify the company's latest touch-screen
voting machines.

But the VSP tabled its decision for a second time, a move that
frustrated activists who hoped the panel would decertify the Diebold
machines currently used in California and bar the company from selling
new machines in the state.

At least four counties recently purchased the new touch-screen model,
the AccuVote-TSx, and are waiting for it to be certified for the March
and November elections.

TSx certification was made conditional in November on the results of a
statewide audit of Diebold machines. The audit was conducted after the
state discovered that the company had placed uncertified software on
some touch-screen machines used in elections.

The audit, completed last month, revealed that the company had
installed uncertified software upgrades in all 17 counties using its
touch-screen or optical-scan machines.

But the panel decided not to take action against Diebold until more
information could be collected.


http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61947,00.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:39:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Push Into Living Room is a Gamble


By Ed Frauenheim and Richard Shim
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

LAS VEGAS--Computer companies face major obstacles in the consumer
electronics market despite optimistic claims that it represents a
promising new frontier for a waning PC industry.

Practically all the major PC manufacturers are expanding into home
entertainment products, specifically targeting the flat-panel
television sets that have boomed in the last year. Large computer
makers such as Gateway, Dell and Hewlett-Packard have entered the TV
market, hoping to undercut traditional electronics leaders such as
Sony, Philips and Panasonic.

In the near term, the strategy may pay off: With their direct
distribution systems and other cost efficiencies, computer companies
are well-positioned to lower prices on these products while still
maintaining profit levels that exceed the margin range of 8 percent to
15 percent historically earned from PCs. However, if prices on
flat-panel sets plummet as expected, it is unclear how the computer
companies will respond to extreme competition in an unfamiliar
territory.

Already, the average price for flat-panel TVs in the 26-to-30-inch
category has dropped from about $6,700 in 2002 to roughly $3,200 at
the end of last year, according to research firm iSuppli/Stanford
Resources, and will likely plunge to about $1,800 by the end of this
year with increased competition. In addition to the PC companies,
other players such as Samsung, Motorola and Epson are joining the
flat-panel rush.

http://news.com.com/2100-1003-5137997.html

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:52:17 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cell Phone Cameras Share Blotchy Moments


By BRUCE MEYERSON AP Business Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- The photos are grainy, blotchy and blurry, but for
millions of people now toting cell phones with built-in digital
cameras, it doesn't seem to be about the megapixels _ or at least not
yet.

Tens of millions of these less-than perfect pictures were snapped and
e-mailed from cell phones in the United States during 2003, the first
full year such services were available.

News organizations are publishing cell photos from their readers to
help cover stories. And an untold number of mobile phone snapshots are
being posted daily to "moblogs," a visual form of the online journals
better known as Web logs, or blogs.

In short, corny as it sounds, cellular photography seems to be about
adding new immediacy to the old Kodak pitch, "share the moment."

But much as this country has lagged Asia and Europe in many facets of
the mobile phone revolution, cell photography is still a rather niche
hobby in the United States _ a major challenge for wireless companies
desperate to generate new revenues from non-voice services.

Of the roughly 75 million camera phones shipped worldwide in 2003,
only 6 million went to the United States, compared with more than 35
million to Japan, according to Strategy Analytics Ltd., a British
consulting firm. Likewise, North America accounted for just 1.7
million of the world's 24 million "active" users of camera phones,
compared with a combined 21.6 million in Japan and South Korea.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40209433

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:28:45 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CBS Shields Pigskin Fans From Ads


Reuters
12:55 PM Jan. 16, 2004 PT

LOS ANGELES -- U.S. football fans will not see ads featuring scantily
clad vegetarians or a political attack on President Bush during
February's Super Bowl after CBS said on Thursday that advocacy
advertisements were out of bounds on professional football's biggest
day.

The network, over the years, has rejected dozens of advertising
proposals by advocacy groups, which argue that the network only airs
controversial messages that it agrees with.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61949,00.html

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From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 10:58:48 EST
Subject: Re: Credit Counseling Telescammers Ignoring Do-Not-Call list


In a message dated Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:47:13 -0800 Mark Crispin
<MRC@CRC.Washington.EDU> writes:

> So much for the Do-Not-Call list.  I've been on it since inception.
> At 9:29AM today I got a prerecorded telemarketing call with a useless
> Caller ID (404-523-0000).  The robot thought that the Qwest No
> Solicitation announcement was a human answering the call, and
> proceeded to babble its spiel.

> By the time it rung and I picked up the phone it was at the tail end,
> so the only thing that I caught was that it was a prerecord for some
> credit counseling scam.

> -- Mark --

> http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
> Si vis pacem, para bellum.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mark, did you try 404-523-0000 to see
> if anyone was there?  Four zeros following a prefix *can* be valid.
> For example, there is a NNN-0000 number here in Independence. It seems
> like an odd number, but they do have them and often times they are
> working. And also, was the credit counseling service a non-profit?
> Aren't there different rules for some of those places like charities
> and politicians?  PAT]

During the last month or two I have been having dealings with a local
firm (in the 405 area code and Oklahoma City metropolitan exchange)
with the number 858-0000.  Seems to be just as valid and functional as
any other number.  (Their literature gives their fax number as
858-0001.  I haven't had occasion to try it.)

Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com

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From: jbl <jbl@spamblocked.com>
Subject: Re: Credit Counseling Telescammers Ignoring Do-Not-Call list
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:28:44 -0700
Organization: On the desert
Reply-To: jbl@spamblocked.com


In <telecom23.25.4@telecom-digest.org>, Mark Crispin
<MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> At 9:29AM today I got a prerecorded telemarketing call with a useless
> Caller ID (404-523-0000).  The robot thought that the Qwest No
> Solicitation announcement was a human answering the call, and
> proceeded to babble its spiel.

I got my first one since the DNC list went into effect this week also,
again a "credit counseling" service.  The one to my "home" line
disconnected when I answered live; the one to my "office" line was
happy to put its whole message onto voice mail.

Mine came in as "unknown caller"; no number.  So not only was this a
DNC violation (I verified that my numbers have been on the list since
last June), but also a TCPA violation, since these were prerecorded.

I filed the DNC violations on the government DNC web site.  (You can
get there from links on the www.ftc.gov home page.)

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: . . .
>    . . . And also, was the credit counseling service a non-profit?
> Aren't there different rules for some of those places like charities
> and politicians?  PAT]

There are some which claim to be tax exempts, though in some cases
research as shown that this is a lie.  In any case, these are only
front ends for profit-making organizations; if you get "credit
counseled" your account gets turned over to a for-(big)profit company
that does the bookkeeping chore of taking your monthly check and
disbursing the funds to the creditors (maybe) for a fee.

/JBL

------------------------------

From: rwurth@att.net (R. T. Wurth)
Subject: Re: Credit Counseling Telescammers Ignoring Do-Not-Call list
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:29:30 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


In article <telecom23.25.4@telecom-digest.org>, Mark Crispin 
<MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> So much for the Do-Not-Call list.  I've been on it since inception.

> At 9:29AM today I got a prerecorded telemarketing call with a useless
> Caller ID (404-523-0000).  The robot thought that the Qwest No
> Solicitation announcement was a human answering the call, and
> proceeded to babble its spiel.

[...]

> -- Mark --

Part of the credit counseling scam is that the for-profit operators
set up a non-profit front-end recruiter that performs the "community
service" of "helping debtors out" invariably by referring them to the
for-profit remittance agent.  This arrangement has the recently-added
bonus of providing exemption from Do Not Call lists.

Rich Wurth / rwurth@att.net / Rumson, NJ  USA

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:45:38 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> writes:

> used a so-called third-level URL, www.john.smith.com, the e-mail 
> address would be john@smith.com.

This is patentable?! *

* PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
       like corkscrews.

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 03:47:26 GMT


In article <telecom23.25.7@telecom-digest.org>,
Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> The suit accuses Network Solutions and Register.com of selling rights 
> to Web URLs and e-mail addresses that infringe on a patent that was 
> granted to Javaher and Weyer on Dec. 20, 2003. The patent covers the 
> method of assigning URLs and e-mail addresses of members of a group 
> such that the "@" sign is the dot in the URL. For example, if a group 
> used a so-called third-level URL, www.john.smith.com, the e-mail 
> address would be john@smith.com.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How in the *hell* could those turkeys
> have been granted a patent on December 20, *2003* for a system which
> has been in common use for about twenty years?

Although I think the patent is kind of silly, I'm not sure I agree
with you that the system "has been in common use".  They're not trying
to patent the general system of email addresses, just a very specific
kind of email address that is linked to a subdomain and a database of
forwarding addresses.

Can you provide a handful of examples of systems where the maintainer
of <domain> automatically arranges for email addressed to
<user>@<domain> to be relayed to the owner of <user>.<domain>?  Try to
include some examples from two decades ago (the very birth of the DNS
system), since you claim this system has been in use that long.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

------------------------------

From: c.c.eiftj@DomainXReg.usenet.us.com (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:48:29 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> writes:

[ quoting cnet.com ]

> The patent covers the 
> method of assigning URLs and e-mail addresses of members of a group 
> such that the "@" sign is the dot in the URL. For example, if a group 
> used a so-called third-level URL, www.john.smith.com, the e-mail 
> address would be john@smith.com.

I began allocating subdomains to users approximately in 1994 or 1995.
I had quite a few customers who had an email address of the form
joeuser@rahul.net and a domain of the form joeuser.rahul.net.  The
domain of the form joeuser.rahul.net would typically have an "A"
record in DNS pointing to the user's static dial-up IP address.  I
don't recall offhand if any of these subdomains of the form
joeuser.rahul.net pointed to any web site.  From a DNS point of view,
however, the scheme was the same as the one described above.  And once
an "A" record was created in DNS, if any of these users had ever run a
web server on his home machine while dialed in, that web site would
automatically have appeared as http://joeuser.rahul.net/ .

  email address        		= USER@rahul.net
  domain with A record 		= USER.rahul.net
  home machine web site, if any = http://USER.rahul.net/

The earliest instance of this scheme that I can find in the CVS log
for rahul.net is:

  revision 1.7
  date: 1994/09/11 05:17:18;  author: dhesi;  state: Exp;  lines: +3 -3
  originmm.rahul.net

The DNS entry added on that day ws:

  originmm        IN      A       192.160.13.189

The reverse DNS entry is also in RCS for the zone 13.160.192.in-addr.arpa :

  189     IN      PTR     originmm.rahul.net.

> From my billing records for user 'originmm', email address
'originmm@rahul.net':

10 Sep 94: originmm: ip start date was (none), changed to: 1994/09/10
10 Sep 94: originmm: host IP address was (none), changed to: 192.160.13.189
10 Sep 94: charge $5 : customized domain originmm.rahul.net

So on or around September 10 or 11, 1994, both the domain
originmm.rahul.net and the email address originmm@rahul.net existed.
Due to the openness of the systems in those days, all of this was
freely publicized.  Anybody doing 'finger' would have seen users
logged in, and if this user had been logged into the UNIX shell at
that time, people would have seen the host name originmm.rahul.net.
Anybody doing a DNS query, or a zone transfer (and zone transfers
could be done by all in those days) would have easily seen the DNS
information.  The general subdomain scheme was public knowledge
because it was sent to anybody requesting subscription information.

I don't mind mentioning the specific user 'originmm' because this
account is no longer an active account and there is no privacy
violation here.

(Note: My email address in this posting is valid for email replies
only if the original Subject line (below) is preserved:

  Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent

If you use any other subject line, your email to me will bounce back,
and the bounce will suggest an alternative email address.)


Rahul

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So Barry, I was a little off in saying
*twenty years ago*, but I knew I had seen that addressing method a
long time before the turkeys gobbled up the patent on it. As Rahul
says it was happening in the early/middle 1990's. So how could they
have gotten their patent if the patent examiner, et al had done his
homework?   PAT]

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: Norvergence
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:43:13 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


Ken Lyle <Klyle@bscable.com> writes:

> Pat,

> I left you a message on your cell. Our Lawyers suggested I find all
> the info I can on Norvergence on the web about complaints. Your page
> seems to have the most on it.

What is it with all these people bothering Pat Townson with
Norvergence queries? If I was paranoid, I might think these were
attempts to get him to say something bad on the record, which wouldn't
stand up to the defenses a compiler of a mailing list has. Oh wait, I
*am* paranoid.

My vote is to silently toss anything further concerning requests for
information about Norvergence. If someone is asking you directly and
calling on your cellphone, they're not telcom digest subscribers. *

P.S. On the other hand, it is amusing in a black comedy sort of way.

* PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
       like corkscrews.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Two points, Paul. For people 'like
that', I never state any opinion of my own. My sentences are always
phrased, 'reports I have read say,'  or 'the attornies tell me,' etc. 
I do not wish to be accused of practicing law, or practicing slander
either for that matter. Second point: most of the people who ask me
directly or call on the phone never even heard of TELECOM Digest, let
alone subscribe to it. Most new netizens these days never heard of 
Usenet either, only http://whatever, which they use liberally for the
various things they like on the net. Many of the guys, however, do
stick around once they get a comprehensive (and hopefully correct)
answer to their inquiry. And here at Telecom Education School I can
always be assured of correct answers from our 'faculty' if I get it
wrong or pass over it. Do you remember back about 1990 or so when an
article by Monty Solomon in the Digest said 'it is estimated that
X million Americans use the net each day' and my reply to that was
'wait fifteen years or so until the entire country is wired if you
think things are a mess now ...'  Well we are now getting to that
point, where things are a mess; relatively sophisticated people are
finding out how dumb they are on telephones and they are all asking
at once. But regards doing manual searching for people, I agree that
has gotten a bit ridiculous. People with no idea at all of the 
extent of our archives are always saying 'send me whatever you have
on topic X ...'  I have to tell them to look it up for themselves,
but at least I answer; I don't just toss it in the wastebasket.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:22:16 EST
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Place Name for 610-388


610 area, part of old 215 in southeastern Pennsylvania, includes the
Delaware-Pennsylvania border.  Recently, I made a call from my home
(via AT&T) to a phone on 610-388, which is along the Delaware border
(is local to Wilmington, Del.) and reaches up to a stretch of U.S. 1.

AT&T bill which includes that call has arrived, and it gives the place
name as Chadds Ford (do not recall seeing Chadds Ford in that context
before), but nanpa.com (and the old phone books for that area) give
388 (which is a holdover from the 215 area) as Mendenhall.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:37:34 -0500
From: Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
Organization: Booz Allen Hamilton
Subject: Wireless Home Networks


The recent articles on DSL availabilty prompted me to check with
Verizon yet again to see if Verizon had at last made DSL available in
my neighborhood in Northern VA.  I was pleasantly surprised to see
that they had, and with a little bit of searching discovered a
wireless hub and small wireless USB adaptors at buy.com on sale for
about $35 each.  The wired versions -- either conventional NIC cards
using CAT 5 cable or the HPNA stle which use phone lines are both more
expensive and the former of course entails running and terminating
cables. 

Three colleagues, all more knowledgeable and opinionated than me, have
strongly warned against the more expedient wireless solution because
of security vulnerabilities. I thought these things were range limited
Part 15 devices, and I live on a culdesac where someone "cruising for
hots spots" would be pretty conspicuous. Would appreciate any ideas or
experiences, good or bad, that the readership would be willing to
share, either here in the Digest or off net.  TD is a teriffic resource.

Thanks,

Mike Quinn
Springfield VA
quinnm@bah.com

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for your kind words about the
Digest. If you go with wireless solutions to *anything*, I suggest
you make certain your security is **very tight** at all times. From 
years ago where the technique of 'cruising for dial tone' was a
commonplace activity -- people drive down the street with a cordless
handset listening for dial tone from *your* cordless phone then
proceed to make a few long distance or premium charge (a/c 900 for
example) calls on your bill -- to more modern times where like the
naked man in Toronto they drive down the street with a laptop PC
and a WiFi connection downloading kiddie porn behind your back, and
then when postal inspector Zipp or FBI Inquisitor Laws  get to your 
house you wind up taking the rap for it because *their* knowledge 
of computers is so woefully lacking (like any police officer) -- well,
you don't want to get in that kind of mess, I am sure. If you go
wireless then KEEP IT LOCKED UP TIGHTLY. Or better still, keep it all
wired, and still keep yourself locked up.

I still have to giggle a little about the day the FBI came here to
my house during that Cameraware scam, and the Inquisitor said to me
in a self righteous tone of voice, "well yes, I agree with you that 
spam can be a bad problem but the spammers do not send out kiddie 
porn."  Oh yeah?  Keep a good firewall up all the time, either wired
or wireless.  That's IMO, and note, there is no 'H' as the third
letter there; that's because I do not give Humble opinions.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: c.warren@wdtc.biz (Chad)
Subject: ITT TEL-TREX MODEL 320 CORTELCO  - Questions About Unit
Date: 17 Jan 2004 17:02:58 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Does anyone know anything about this system?  I cannot find a site
with any specs on it.  I am not sure, but I do believe it is an older
system.  I found it for sale online.  I am just looking for a small
pbx for a home business.  I have 2 toll free lines which are currently
being forwarded to our home business line.  One goes directly to our
main business line and the other uses distinctive ring from the Telco.

I would like to have an auto attendant and voice mail.  I don't have
much money to spend on one.  Does anyone know if you can hookup an
auto attendant and voice mail to this model? The ITT Tel-Trex Model
320 from Cortelco?  Any help or sugesstions would be appreciated.

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    Rants From A Current Norvergence Employee (K)
    All-Xeros Numbers (Bruce Howells)
    Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
    Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent (Christopher Wolf)
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From: theman242424@hotmail.com (K)
Subject: Rants From A Current Norvergence Employee
Date: 17 Jan 2004 23:36:05 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I saw some posts by employees talking about how much they love this
company ... I dont like to lie and I dont like when people lie around
me so they can make a buck.  I fully realize that this post might lose
my job with my own company but I really don't care.

Im not going to lecture about the technology ... I will tell you the
little that I know though.  You see, they don't tell the phone
appointment setters (inside sales reps) anything about how this crap
works. Ignorance is bliss ... It seems like we use some kind of ATM
technology to offer free long distance, no land line charges and
incoming toll free calls.  But we might be acting like a reseller in
some cases ... I'm not sure about that.  The cell phone service we
resell.  

We can get deals from ATT and Verizon because we get it in bulk.  So
they can eliminate roaming, I hear by combining the carriers and
networks.  So from what I hear, the technology isn't crap; the major
fear I would have in signing up is that 5 year lease.  Some jerkoff
said that telecom prices were going up.  :) Thats BS.  Telecom prices
have been going down and I expect them to drop significantly as the
major providers switch to voice over IP and Data technology ... It
certainly isnt going up.  When was the last time they raised the
pricee on CD players or other technology?

So you can judge for yourself about the product.  I have talked to
customer service and they said they dont get much complaints about the
matrix. I think cells are a bigger concern.

This company sucks. Its actually quite amusing though how bad the
culture of a company can be.  Norvergence is located in the shithole
of a city of Newark, New Jersey.  They occupy two buildings, one at 550
Broad and another quickly expanding one at 570 Broad.

I work at 570 Broad.  The base salary for the experienced inside sales
people is 40K, 30K if you are totally inexperienced.  I was told the
average total package was 70-80K.  Yeah, thats BS. I'm thinking now
that the average is 50-55.  You can make a 100K but thats not average.
Thats my guess.  

The lies first start with the recruiters that spend the entire time
pitching to you and making you feel special.  But this company has so
many screwed up rules to rape employees ... let me give you an example.
If you are late by one minute in a two week period you get docked
1,000 dollars.  Who does that?  No one does that!  So many people; if
they are late will just quit right there.  I know I will.  

As an inside sales rep you are required to get on the phones and call
and set appointments.  Your bonus is tied directly into how many
appointments that you set are kept.  The salary isnt bad for the skill
level required, (though it isn't the easiest thing in the world to get
hung up on all day long).  And if you can't make one or two
appointments per day they say you will be fired.  The 570 building
defintely has some over qualified people due to the crappy economy.
They also have some smooth talking non educated people.  Of our
training class about half so far has quit or been fired.  Really they
hired people with hardly any filterring.  Now back to the company
culture. It feels like grade school.  They not only monitor your phone
for personal calls but they dont even let you use your cell phones on
the premises for breaks.  The fat short white guys with big bellies
that run the floor look like they belong on the Sopranos. The majority
of people below them are black.  Supervisors for the inside sales are
people that showed that they were great at setting appointments.

Now I shouldnt be too hard on the management of 570.  They are a world
away from the 550 office.  I have heard stories of that place.  I
heard that place feels like prison.  The employees get half as much
desk space and are treated like cattle ... you have to raise your hand
to go to the bathroom.  Seriously.  Why?  Well, to get government
grants Norvergence has a prison work program.  

I have also heard there is a welfare to work program to get more
grants in the "empowerment zone" in Newark.  I should mention that I
havent met these people yet.  The reason being that the managers have
arranged the breaks between the offices to be at different times so
employees dont interact.  In fact, there are several different
departments that are told not to speak to others from the other
departments.  Training inside sales goes at a different time than the
regular people so they dont learn that some of the stuff told in
training was a lie.  Customer service goes a different time from them.
In the 550 building I hear it is extremely aggressive and they act
like prison guards.  Funny because there are a few professional-like
people in that building as well.  I have heard stories of people that
have ran to work so fast so they are not late and have collapsed out
of exertion and gone to the hospital.

Here is another thing.  If you quit or are fired you don't get your
commissions.  So that means whenever you leave you will lose about 3
weeks of commissions.  Why?  They do this so they can try to hook you
into staying.  As you can see the company was designed in a very
machiavellian sort of way.  They have other little gimmics to steal
a little bit of your commission.  Let's say I book a corporation for a
visit and the corporation happens to sign on and have 300 locations. 
I should get paid for the 300 locations (which would be spectacular). 
But the commission for that is the same as the commission for 40.  If
it was a fair deal they would give you a year off of work if you made
a deal like that.

Also we have a Q and A department that has these stupid bureaucratic
rules of questions that we need to have answered and recorded.  This
is done as they think that the sales reps might be lying.  But its
done stupidly.

Im not sure if these methods are very good at all for building a
company as everyone there hates the culture and there is a huge
turnover.  Anyone that says they love their job is a complete liar. 
They might love the money but no one loves the job. And the only
people that love the money are people that didn't really have the
qualifications or education to get a high paying corporate job.

In terms of Nortel ... We dont pitch Nortel anymore.  But I have seen
an older script that said, "Hello, we are calling from Nortel
Networks".  I thought that was somewhat shady.  I'm not sure about the
agreement that Norvergence had with them before but they clearly are
not friendly any more.

I should make it clear that there are some quality individuals that
work there, employees and supervisors.  There are some very cool
individuals.  There are some knowledgeable honest people that work
there ... but its the corporate culture that the executives formed that
worries me.

So I will be looking for other work in my extra hours ... but in the
mean time I will be setting appointments.  You don't have to buy the
product but I think you should definitely get the appointment.  :) 
That way Norvergence will pay its employees and not make money.

-M

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you very much for sharing your
experiences as an employee of Norvergence with us. There is really
nothing I can add except to say I hope Mr. Solzano or Mr. Wolf or
a person they designate will favor us with a reply/rebuttal if they
wish to do so. I am sure that not a hundred percent of everything
you said above is in the proper context; none of us, when we are
angry speak in the proper context, even if what we say is otherwise
truthful as far as it goes. So Wolf, Solzano or designee, the floor
is yours if you want.    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:15:32 -0500
From: Bruce Howells <bhowells@earthlink.net>
Subject: All-Zeros Numbers


There's been an ongoing thread about numbers ending in four zeros;
yes, they are of course valid.  A couple jobs back, our hunt-group
lead was (area code suppressed since I don't know who currently owns
these numbers) NXX-891-0000, and our primary inbound FAX (aging myself
and this story by saying "our singular inbound") was NXX-890-0000.
Yep, *five* zeros.  We all spent quite a bit of time convincing folks
that these were real, and not missing-data placeholders.

(If you recognize these numbers ... drop me a hello!)

-Bruce Howells, bhowells@earthlink.net

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 18 Jan 2004 05:36:32 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent


> Can you provide a handful of examples of systems where the maintainer
> of <domain> automatically arranges for email addressed to
> <user>@<domain> to be relayed to the owner of <user>.<domain>?  Try to
> include some examples from two decades ago (the very birth of the DNS
> system), since you claim this system has been in use that long.

> Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA

That's been built into Sendmail for as long as I can remember. 

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:33:29 -0600
From: Christopher Wolf <temp18@thewolfden.org>
Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent


> From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: Domain Registrars Sued Over URL Patent
> Organization: Looking for work
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 03:47:26 GMT

> In article <telecom23.25.7@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon 
> <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

>> The suit accuses Network Solutions and Register.com of selling rights
>> to Web URLs and e-mail addresses that infringe on a patent that was
>> granted to Javaher and Weyer on Dec. 20, 2003. The patent covers the
>> method of assigning URLs and e-mail addresses of members of a group
>> such that the "@" sign is the dot in the URL. For example, if a group
>> used a so-called third-level URL, www.john.smith.com, the e-mail
>> address would be john@smith.com.

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How in the *hell* could those turkeys
>> have been granted a patent on December 20, *2003* for a system which
>> has been in common use for about twenty years?

> Although I think the patent is kind of silly, I'm not sure I agree
> with you that the system "has been in common use". They're not
> trying to patent the general system of email addresses, just a very
> specific kind of email address that is linked to a subdomain and a
> database of forwarding address.

> Can you provide a handful of examples of systems where the maintainer of 
> <domain> automatically arranges for email addressed to <user>@<domain> to 
> be relayed to the owner of <user>.<domain>? Try to include some examples 
> from two decades ago (the very birth of the DNS system), since you claim 
> this system has been in use that long.

Roadrunner did it 4 or 5 years ago when I had a residential account
with them.  Although they described it as working in the opposite
direction, i.e. if your login(email) was foofoo, you could access your
web site with either www.rr.com/foofoo or www.foofoo.rr.com

I think this feature is basically built into Apache, isn't it?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:21:10 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks


On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:37:34 -0500 Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
wrote about Wireless Home Networks:

> Three colleagues, all more knowledgeable and opinionated than me,
> have strongly warned against the more expedient wireless solution
> because of security vulnerabilities. I thought these things were
> range limited Part 15 devices, and I live on a culdesac where
> someone "cruising for hot spots" would be pretty conspicuous. Would
> appreciate any ideas or experiences, good or bad, that the
> readership would be willing to share, either here in the Digest or
> off net.  TD is a teriffic resource.

Michael, If you take the time to properly secure your wireless
network, you'll have little to worry about.  The problem is, many
don't.  I can drive around my neighbourhood and find six or seven
unprotected networks with my laptop in a radius of just a few blocks
(I can successfully connect to these networks and start websurfing, or
downloading porn, or spamming, or anything I want).

Typically, a wireless network by default has no encryption or other
protections turned on.  You need to turn all this stuff on yourself.

To start, you need to set your "SSID", which is a unique string of
text that differentiates "your" network from somebody else's.  Many
folks don't do this, and leave it at the default.  When I cruise my
neighbourhood, I see a lot of networks named "DEFAULT" or "LINKSYS".
You should change this to something else, and to be safe it should be
something that doesn't uniquely identify your location (ie: don't use
your house number as part of the name of your SSID, or your business
name if using it at work, etc.).

Not all access points/routers support this, but if possible, you
should DISABLE SSID BROADCAST.  If you do this, this will deter all
but the most determined hackers -- your network won't be visible to
others (without specialized software) even if your encryption isn't
turned on.  But you definitely wanna turn this on.

The most-common encryption standard is "WEP", or "Wired Equivalent
Privacy" (I think).  This has to be turned on at your access point.
You'll have to give your access point an encryption key, and you'll
have to use the same encryption key on all computers in your network.

For most people, this will be enough.  However, there are known
weaknesses in WEP, and a VERY determined hacker (including law
enforcement types) might POSSIBLY be able to determine your keys and
snoop on your traffic.  In practice, on a typical home network, this
will be extremely difficult (not enough packets flying around to build
a large enough statistical universe), but you should be aware of it.

There is a new wireless standard called "WPA" (WiFi Protected Access,
I think), which is supposed to be one heck of a lot more robust - so
far as I know, nobody's managed to break it yet.  However, support for
this new standard is not yet universal.

1) Your access point/router needs to support it.  I think most new
   Linksys hardware supports it, either out of the box or with a
   firmware upgrade (I recently upgraded my Linksys "g" router to the
   latest firmware and this added WPA support).

2) Each PC needs to support it. For those PC's running Windows XP,
   you can update your system via Windows Update and your system will
   support WPA natively, regardless of what wireless adapter card(s)
   you've got.  For PC's running other operating systems, your need to
   make sure that your wireless adapter card(s) support this, either
   in hardware or software. If it doesn't say it does, then it
   probably DOES NOT (but check with your dealer and/or the
   manufacturer's website).

If all points in your network support WPA, then activating it is
actually easier than activating WEP (fewer things to choose, and thus
fewer possible mismatches), and it's far more secure.


Joey Lindstrom

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 18 Jan 2004 05:33:33 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for your kind words about the
> Digest. If you go with wireless solutions to *anything*, I suggest
> you make certain your security is **very tight** at all times. From 
> years ago where the technique of 'cruising for dial tone' was a
> commonplace activity -- people drive down the street with a cordless
> handset listening for dial tone from *your* cordless phone then
> proceed to make a few long distance or premium charge (a/c 900 for
> example) calls on your bill -- to more modern times where like the
> naked man in Toronto they drive down the street with a laptop PC
> and a WiFi connection downloading kiddie porn behind your back, and
> then when postal inspector Zipp or FBI Inquisitor Laws  get to your 
> house you wind up taking the rap for it because *their* knowledge 
> of computers is so woefully lacking (like any police officer) -- well,
> you don't want to get in that kind of mess, I am sure. If you go
> wireless then KEEP IT LOCKED UP TIGHTLY. Or better still, keep it all
> wired, and still keep yourself locked up.

> I still have to giggle a little about the day the FBI came here to
> my house during that Cameraware scam, and the Inquisitor said to me
> in a self righteous tone of voice, "well yes, I agree with you that 
> spam can be a bad problem but the spammers do not send out kiddie 
> porn."  Oh yeah?  Keep a good firewall up all the time, either wired
> or wireless.  That's IMO, and note, there is no 'H' as the third
> letter there; that's because I do not give Humble opinions.   PAT]

First thing to do is set it so the SSID isn't broadcast but has to be
hand coded on each machine. Granted, it'll fly across the air but it's
one more layer.

The current WEP is what, 128 bit? That works out to 16 bytes -- not a
stretch to crack.

Many wireless routers now have built in firewalls. They allow you to
set only the MAC addresses of the attached computers as being able to
access the net.  Unfortunately you can also sniff this information out
as it's embedded in every packet flying out in the air.

Then there are of course solutions like Blue Socket. Unfortunately I
don't think they fit into the budget of most people.

Part of the problem we're going to see with Wi-Fi is a mixing of
standards.  Cisco has already started with the LEAP stuff.

It is why I will not install wireless routers anywhere in my home or
office. I will instead string cable and punch down the CAT-5
terminations myself.

------------------------------

From: John Sasso <jsassojr@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Equipment for Emulating POTS
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 04:43:12 GMT
Organization: Road Runner


I am looking for an "affordable" device that can simulate analog POTS
lines for a Cisco Network Academy lab.  The device should have a
capacity for, say, 16 to 32 POTS lines.  I checked out the ADTRAN
Atlas 550, which is very extensive in its features but is quite pricey
($3500-$4000); I am primarily concerned about the POTS capability.

Any recommended hardware that serves the purpose would be greatly
appreciated!


--john

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Telecom Update (Canada) #416, January 19, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Re: Place Name for 610-388 (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Place Name for 610-388 (Jerry Wolf)
    Re: Wireless Home Networks (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Nick Landsberg)
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
    E-Commerce Report: Television Commercials Come to Web (Monty Solomon)
    Patent Lawyer Puts Claim to Entire Internet (Monty Solomon)
    Cops Use GPS Device to Nab Texas Fugitive (Monty Solomon)
    America Online to Showcase TopSpeed Technology (Monty Solomon)
    Bell Labs Technology Would Give Consumers Greater Control (M Solomon)
    Companies Tossing Aside Consumers' Freedoms (Monty Solomon)
    Don't Bank on Privacy (Monty Solomon)
    Northwest Gave U.S. Data on Passengers (Monty Solomon)
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** Bell Union Seeks Conciliation
** Gigabit Net Planned for Ottawa Schools
** 25% of Tested Wi-Fi Products Fail
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TELUS SERVICE LEVELS RECOVER: Telus says it is now meeting or
exceeding CRTC standards for customer service. It says that its
business office and repair contact centres "are now performing better
than at any time since the 1999 merger of Telus Alberta and BC
Telecom."

SECURITY HOLE AFFECTS VoIP SYSTEMS: The UK National Infrastructure
Security Coordination Centre has identified security vulnerabilities
in the H.323 protocol used in many VoIP systems. Cisco, Microsoft, and
Nortel Networks have issued advisory notices. Microsoft rates the
problem as "critical."

www.uniras.gov.uk/vuls/2004/006489/h323.htm

Q3 2003 TELECOM STATISTICS RELEASED: This morning in The Daily,
Statistics Canada releases a summary of its Q3 2003 report on the
telecommunications services industry.  The full report will be posted
later this week.

www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/040119/d040119c.htm

BELL-CISCO ALLIANCE TO PROMOTE IP ADOPTION: Bell Canada and Cisco
Systems have announced an alliance to expand Bell's IP/MPLS network,
offer "co-marketed integrated IP products and services," and help
large and mid-sized businesses migrate existing networks to IP.

TELUS TO MAKE FINAL OFFER TO TWU: Telus says it will submit a final
offer to the Telecommunications Workers Union today, two weeks ahead
of the legal deadline. Telus and the TWU are in a cooling off period
after which either party could give 72 hours notice of a strike or
lockout.

BELL UNION SEEKS CONCILIATION: The Communications, Energy and
Paperworkers Union is seeking federal conciliation in its negotiations
with Bell Canada. The union and Bell resumed negotiations last week.

GIGABIT NET PLANNED FOR OTTAWA SCHOOLS: Telecom Ottawa has won a
ten-year contract from the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board to
provide 1 Gbps connections to 154 schools and other facilities by this
summer.

25% OF TESTED WI-FI PRODUCTS FAIL: The Wi-Fi Alliance, which tests
wireless LAN equipment for interoperability and conformance with
802.11 standards, says that it has now given its seal of approval to
more than 1,000 products. Over 25% of the products submitted for
review failed.

www.wi-fi.org

CRTC DEREGULATES MORE PRIVATE LINE ROUTES: In Telecom Decision 2004-2,
the CRTC "forbears from regulating" ILEC high-capacity private lines
on additional routes now served by competitors.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-2.htm

NORTEL DEBT UPGRADED: The Dominion Bond Rating Service has upgraded
Nortel Networks' trend from "negative" to "stable."

RIM PRICES PUBLIC OFFERING: On Thursday, Research In Motion increased
the size of its public offering from 9 million to 10.5 million shares,
to be sold for US$78.25 per share, raising approximately $789 million

MICROCELL TO BUY NORTEL GEAR: Microcell Solutions has extended its
supply agreement with Nortel Networks to cover purchase of additional
GSM and UMTS core wireless network equipment for $70 million by 2006.

COGECO REVENUE RISES: For the three months ended November 30, Cogeco
Cable had revenue of $128 million, 11% more than in the same period
last year. One-time charges of $44 million resulted in a net loss of
$40 million. Cogeco added 17,439 Internet subscribers (8.5%) and 7,239
cable customers (0.9%).

TELEHOP REPORTS INCREASED CALLING: Telehop Communications, a
Toronto-based dial-around long distance provider, says it carried 137
million minutes of traffic in 2003, an 82% increase over 2002.

CALL CENTRE CONFERENCE SEEKS SPEAKERS: Advanstar Communications,
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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: Place Name for 610-388
Date: 18 Jan 2004 16:26:40 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL> wrote 

> 610 area, part of old 215 in southeastern Pennsylvania, includes the
> Delaware-Pennsylvania border.  Recently, I made a call from my home
> (via AT&T) to a phone on 610-388, which is along the Delaware border
> (is local to Wilmington, Del.) and reaches up to a stretch of U.S. 1.
> 
> AT&T bill which includes that call has arrived, and it gives the place
> name as Chadds Ford (do not recall seeing Chadds Ford in that context
> before), but nanpa.com (and the old phone books for that area) give
> 388 (which is a holdover from the 215 area) as Mendenhall.

Chadds Ford is in that area.

My phone books says "Mendenhall".

Verizon has been consolidating some small suburban exchanges.  It's
possible this was merged together.  In the suburbs, an exchange
usually serves several towns, and town municipal and postal boundaries
do not match.  It is quite often that someone's phone exchange,
mailing town, and muncipality are all different.  For instance, you
could be in the Jenkintown phone exchange (now TUrner, ESsex, and
MElrose), but be in the Elkins Park post office and Cheltenham
Township, but be in a place commonly called Melrose Park.

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From: sl_jerry1@hotmail.com (Jerry Wolf)
Subject: Re: Place Name for 610-388
Date: 19 Jan 2004 06:44:07 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I grew up just east of there and can confirm that Chadds Ford and
Mendenhall are within a few miles of each other.  At least back in the
50's and 60's, telephone exchanges in that then-rural area spanned
multiple communities, so the name given to an exchange was kinda
arbitrary.  That area has experienced tremendous growth in population
as farms were turned into housing.  Perhaps such exchanges changed
their names as a result of changing population patterns.

Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.26.12@telecom-digest.org>:

> 610 area, part of old 215 in southeastern Pennsylvania, includes the
> Delaware-Pennsylvania border.  Recently, I made a call from my home
> (via AT&T) to a phone on 610-388, which is along the Delaware border
> (is local to Wilmington, Del.) and reaches up to a stretch of U.S. 1.

> AT&T bill which includes that call has arrived, and it gives the place
> name as Chadds Ford (do not recall seeing Chadds Ford in that context
> before), but nanpa.com (and the old phone books for that area) give
> 388 (which is a holdover from the 215 area) as Mendenhall.

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:48:58 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> Three colleagues, all more knowledgeable and opinionated than me, have
> strongly warned against the more expedient wireless solution because
> of security vulnerabilities. I thought these things were range limited

If you set up your WiFi network properly, it's no more unsecure than
anything else you're probably running.

A really determined cracker can get to your computer from the Internet
through whatever firewall you have set up, or can even splice a
connection into your cable somewhere.  Crackers don't need you to be
running a wireless network to get into your system.

The real problem with wireless is that most people don't install any
sort of encryption.


-Joel

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From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:39:15 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Bruce Howells wrote:

> There's been an ongoing thread about numbers ending in four zeros;
> yes, they are of course valid.  A couple jobs back, our hunt-group
> lead was (area code suppressed since I don't know who currently owns
> these numbers) NXX-891-0000, and our primary inbound FAX (aging myself
> and this story by saying "our singular inbound") was NXX-890-0000.
> Yep, *five* zeros.  We all spent quite a bit of time convincing folks
> that these were real, and not missing-data placeholders.

> (If you recognize these numbers ... drop me a hello!)

> -Bruce Howells, bhowells@earthlink.net

I just have to re-tell this war story about 4 zeros on the
end of a phone number.

Way back when, before ESS and stuff, the phone company would try to
hand out the lowest digit numbers to the numbers most often dialed.
The reason being that, for dial pulse (rather than touch tone), the
high numbers used up more time on the equipment.  (0 is ten pulses).
In those days, you would see pay-phones with numbers such as
XXX-YYY-9987 because it was unlikely that anyone would be dialing
pay-phones at a large frequency.  I presume that big businesses had to
pay a premium for numbers like MElrose 6-1000.

When a system called "MLT" (mechanized line testing) was being
developed to replace the test desk in the early 80's, the program was
written in Fortran (because of all the compute intensive stuff which
was necessary to figure out what the problems on the line were).

The system worked for years without a major hitch.  It got to the
point that multiple MLT computers were hooked into multiple CO's for
redundancy.  So, if you reported a trouble on (e.g.)  XXX-YYY-1111 and
the primary MLT machine was down, the request would be routed to
another machine which could also access XXX-YYY. (all routing was
point-to-point in those days)

Well, one day, a trouble report came in on ... XXX-YYY-0000.

Within the space of seconds, all MLT machines which could access
XXX-YYY crashed and had to be restarted (manually in those days).

Those who are ancient computer geeks, will recognize something here.
Fortran has arrays with "1-based" subscripts, i.e.  the base of the
array starts with NNX[1].  In other languages, the base of the array
starts with NNX[0].  Internally, the software used the last 4 digits
of the phone number to index into the array.  NNX[0000] caused the
machine to crash. ("There will never be a number ending in all zero's
 ... and even if it were, it would be a pay-phone, so who cares.")

The upstream systems were programmed to try an alternate machine if
the first one did not respond with an acknowledgment within a fraction
of a second (the actual test took longer, but acknowledgement of the
request was within milliseconds).  They then blissfully forwarded the
request to the next machine in the list which could handle XXX-YYY.

Maybe I should cross-post to the Risks Digest ? :)

Nick Landsberg

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:52:40 +0000 (GMT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> There's been an ongoing thread about numbers ending in four zeros;
> yes, they are of course valid.  A couple jobs back, our hunt-group

When I was in high school, I had a parent with a phone number ending
in -0000.  A teacher wanted a parent-teacher conference, and when I
gave the teacher the number, I got punished and had to stay after
school for lying.

-Joel

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:13:42 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: E-Commerce Report: Television Commercials Come to the Web


E-COMMERCE REPORT

By BOB TEDESCHI
January 19, 2004

TELEVISION commercials, in all their big, loud glory, are coming to
the Web.

Beginning tomorrow, more than a dozen Web sites, including MSN, ESPN,
Lycos and iVillage, will run full-motion video commercials from Pepsi,
AT&T, Honda, Vonage and Warner Brothers, in a six-week test that some
analysts and online executives say could herald the start of a new era
of Internet advertising.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/19/technology/19ecom.html

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:36:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Patent lawyer puts claim to entire Internet


By Kieren McCarthy

The Net's two biggest registrars of domain names are being sued for 
infringing an email and domain name patent granted last month.

The lawsuit, filed yesterday in California, claims Network Solutions
and Register.com are liable for selling, specifically, .name domains.
It claims undisclosed monetary damages and an injunction against the
sale of any more domains.

US patent 6,671,714 - "Method, apparatus and business system for
online communications with online and offline recipients" - is owned
by Frank Weyer and Troy Javaher, both of Beverly Hills in California,
was filed in November 1999 and approved on 30 December 2003.

Frank Meyer is a patent lawyer who is heading the case himself and who
recently set up the company Nizza Group to act as prosecutor. He has
told the press that he is hoping to work with the two registrars and
licence his naming method rather than prevent the sale of domains.

No wonder, because the only way this patent case will ever be won is
if the US court system is as hopelessly incompetent as the Patent
Office.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34949.html

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:00:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cops Use GPS Device to Nab Texas Fugitive


DALLAS -- Federal marshals were bringing a fugitive con man back 
to Texas this weekend from Dillon, Mont., where they ended his flight 
toward the Canadian border.

Finding 64-year-old Bobbie McCoy Burress was easy: They just had the 
rental company switch on the global positioning device in his rented 
car.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/17/cops_use_gps_device_to_nab_texas_fugitive/

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:54:28 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: America Online to Showcase TopSpeed Technology


     America Online to Showcase TopSpeed Technology Throughout Super
     Bowl XXXVIII, Featuring Unparalleled Ad Poll Giving Millions of
     Fans a Chance to View and Vote for Their Favorite Super Bowl
     XXXVIII Commercials

DULLES, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 19, 2004--

  Super Bowl@AOL to Give Fans Behind-the-Scenes Access to Super Bowl
   Week Events in Houston and Extensive Football Video from NFL@AOL

  Newly Designed AOL.com to Offer Non-Members Free Access to NFL and
        Entertainment Content on the Web January 26-February 3

    New AOL Commercials to Premiere Featuring AOL(R) TopSpeed (TM)
   Technology and the Teutuls, Stars of Breakout Hit Show "American
                               Chopper"

Millions of Super Bowl fans will have the chance to relive their
favorite ads immediately following the game and vote for their choice
for the best in AOL's biggest ever AOL Ad Bowl poll, according to
America Online, sponsor of the AOL TopSpeed(TM) Super Bowl XXXVIII
Halftime Show. The event is expected to be the largest Super Bowl
advertising poll in history, with voting open to both AOL members,
through AOL Keyword: Super Bowl, and on the Web through the AOL.com(R)
service. Last year, AOL hosted a similar commercial showcase which
generated more than 5.6 million streams in 36 hours. Early results of
this year's poll will be available within hours after the big game.

The AOL Ad Bowl gives fans on AOL and AOL.com the opportunity to view
ads that premiere during Super Bowl XXXVIII immediately after the game
and cast their votes for their favorite. The final results of the AOL
Ad Bowl will be announced on February 2. Fans will also be able to
view classic Super Bowl ads and vote for their favorite from January
23-28.

The AOL Ad Bowl is part of a comprehensive package of Super Bowl
events designed to promote AOL TopSpeed technology, the built-in Web
accelerator in AOL 9.0(R) Optimized that allows consumers to get where
they want to go on the Internet faster--up to five times faster for
dial-up users when compared to a standard dial-up connection*. These
offerings include Super Bowl@AOL--a destination giving fans up close
and behind-the-scenes access to the events surrounding the big game as
well as extensive football video from NFL@AOL; access to a wide array
of Super Bowl content via the Web on a newly designed AOL.com; and a
series of new ads highlighting TopSpeed featuring the stars of
Discovery Channel's breakout hit show "American Chopper."

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40217755

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:59:26 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Bell Labs Technology Would Give Consumers Greater Control 


     Bell Labs Technology Would Give Consumers Greater Control over
     Their Privacy When Using Mobile Devices
     - Jan 19, 2004 08:30 AM (BusinessWire)

BERKELEY, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 19, 2004--

   New Location Privacy Approach Outlined at Mobile Data Management
                            2004 Conference

Researchers from Lucent Technologies' (NYSE:LU) Bell Labs have
developed new software technologies that would enable users to tightly
control how their location information is shared when using
location-enabled mobile devices such as cell phones and personal
digital assistants (PDAs). In a paper to be presented here at the 2004
IEEE International Conference on Mobile Data Management, Bell Labs
researchers will describe a method for users to specify what location
information is shared, and when, with whom, how and under what
circumstances.

Today's location-based services promise incredible access in an
ever-increasingly connected world, but they do not support the
possibility that a user's willingness to share location data may
depend on a range of factors including recent and current activities,
time of day, and who is requesting the data -- in other words, an
individual's context. Bell Labs' newly developed Privacy-Conscious
Personalization (PCP) framework relies on user preferences to
intelligently infer context such as working or shopping, and then
determines with whom location information should be shared.

When a user's location or other information is requested, it is
analogous to someone making a query of a database. In this case, the
request is checked against the user's preferences and filtered through
a high-performance rules engine, known within Bell Labs as "Houdini,"
before any action is taken. Since location and other mobile services
require near-real-time performance, this entire process can take a few
milliseconds or less.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40218518

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:19:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Companies Tossing Aside Consumers' Freedoms


By Dan Gillmor
Mercury News Technology Columnist

The digital revolution has been all about empowering people, to use
technology in ways that broaden our horizons and our freedom. So when
the tech industry began moving into consumer electronics, there were
reasons to expect great things.

The consumer electronics companies, by and large, have sold closed
boxes that deliberately limit customers' options. This is by
tradition, in part for simplicity and ease of use, but also to placate
an entertainment industry that tramples customers' rights in the name
of curbing copyright infringement.

I've been hoping that the tech industry will bring its better
traditions into the living room -- expanding customers' flexibility
and creativity, not curbing them.

At the giant Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in early January,
the evidence was mixed. While new technology is adding some useful
features to consumer electronics, tech companies -- by embracing
Hollywood-dictated restrictions on how digital content is used -- have
allied themselves with a greedy cartel at the expense of their own
customers.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7739841.htm

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/dan_gillmor/7739841.htm

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:29:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Don't Bank on Privacy


Most bank Web sites fall short when it comes to customer privacy, 
convenience and responsiveness, a study found.

By Richard Burnett
Sentinel Staff Writer

Tina Williams knows little about what her bank does with her personal
information. The privacy policy is wordy and tough to decode. She
doesn't read it when it arrives in the mail.

She also doesn't read the disclosure statements when she's banking
online.

"Like most other privacy policies, it is long and boring and
confusing," said the substitute schoolteacher, who lives in Lake
Mary. "My feeling is, as long as you don't share my personal
information the wrong way, I'll trust you. Luckily, so far, I haven't
had any problem."

Online-banking customers deserve better, however, according to a new 
study of banks' online operations.

Despite banks' increasing Internet savvy, too many financial
institutions still fall short when it comes to customer privacy,
convenience and responsiveness, according to a report by The Customer
Respect Group, a research and consulting firm based in Bellevue, Wash.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-bizbanksonline14011404jan14,1,7297658.story

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:16:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Northwest Gave U.S. Data on Passengers


Airline Had Denied Sharing Information For Security Effort

By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer

Northwest Airlines provided information on millions of passengers for
a secret U.S. government air-security project soon after the Sept.
11, 2001, terrorist attacks, raising more concerns among some privacy
advocates about the airlines' use of confidential customer data.

The nation's fourth-largest airline asserted in September that it "did
not provide that type of information to anyone." But Northwest
acknowledged Friday that by that time, it had already turned over
three months of reservation data to the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration's Ames Research Center. Northwest is the second carrier
to have been identified as secretly passing travelers' records to the
government.

The airline industry has said publicly that it would not cooperate in
developing a government passenger-screening program because of
concerns that the project would infringe on customer privacy. But the
participation of two airlines in separate programs demonstrates the
industry's clandestine role in government security initiatives.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26422-2004Jan17.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:26:01 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! Dagwood's Trouble With Telemarketers


In the Sunday Independence Reporter for 1/18 Comic pages the 'Blondie'
comic had Dagwood (apparently) getting a call from a telemarketer and
retaliating by putting the family name and phone number on the
national do not call list.

Blondie approves of this and smiles sweetly at Dagwood as the family
dog looks on. At last, says Dagwood, no more dinner interuptions and
he can take his naps in peace. Blondie tells him how wonderful that
sounds.

Then the doorbell rings and Dagwood goes to answer the door. Standing
in the doorway is a string of a dozen or so door-to-door salesmen and
sales ladies carrying their wares, pots and pans, insurance policies,
electronic items, etc. Like a chorus in unison they all say "We're
B---A---C---K !"

I have to wonder if the new rules will make *enough* of a dent in
phone sales that many companies will return to the door-to-door sales
routine.

Lisa Minter
Editor, Yahoo Telecom News

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    PluggedIn: Digital Media on TV, Anywhere and Anytime (Monty Solomon)
    Motorola Reports Fourth-Quarter; Full-Year 2003 Financial (M Solomon)
    Microsoft Lightens Up on Teen's Mikerowesoft Site (Monty Solomon)
    America's Opinion of  AOL (Rob)
    Fax And Friction (Eric Friedebach)
    The Qwest Spirit of Service  Bye Bye Qwest (ahinsp1@hotmail.com)
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:51:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: PluggedIn: Digital Media on TV, Anywhere and Anytime


By Ben Berkowitz

LOS ANGELES, Jan 20 (Reuters) - It's as though every electronics
company that knows anything about data and networking had the same
idea: Build a box to connect the TV to a home network and pull digital
audio and video off the PC.

At the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas recently, conventioneers
could not turn a corner without seeing a device -- wired or wireless,
with a hard drive or without, audio only or audio and video -- to
transport digital music, photos and videos to the home entertainment
center.

While the idea is not necessarily new, a combination of new and faster
wireless technologies, lower costs for hard drives and other
components and the growing popularity of digital media has combined to
create a land rush in the category.

And those rushing in to grab a piece of what could be very lucrative
territory acknowledge that the new technology is daunting and must be
made as user-friendly as possible.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40235457

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:52:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Motorola Reports Fourth-Quarter and Full-Year 2003 Financial


     * Fourth-quarter sales of $8.0 billion, up 4 percent vs. the
       prior-year quarter, up 17 percent sequentially vs. the third
       quarter

     * Fourth-quarter GAAP earnings of $.20 per share vs. earnings of $.08
       per share in the prior-year quarter

     * Fourth-quarter earnings, excluding special items, of $.17 per share
       vs. earnings of $.13 per share, excluding special items, in the 
       prior-year quarter

     *  Fourth-quarter positive operating cash flow of $0.9 billion

     *  Ratio of debt to net debt plus equity improved to 0.3 percent from
        19.6 percent in the prior-year quarter(1)

     *  First-quarter 2004 guidance:
        -  Sales:  $6.4 to $6.8 billion
        -  GAAP earnings per share:  $.05 to $.07 per share

SCHAUMBURG, Ill., Jan. 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Motorola, Inc.
(NYSE:MOT) today reported sales of $8.0 billion in the fourth quarter
of 2003 and net earnings of $489 million, or $.20 per share, presented
in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP).
This represents an increase in sales of 4 percent from $7.7 billion in
the year-ago quarter, up 17 percent sequentially from the third
quarter.  Motorola reported GAAP net earnings in the year-ago quarter
of $174 million, or $.08 per share.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40240333

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:36:24 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Lightens up on Teen's Mikerowesoft Site


(In U.S. dollars unless noted)

TORONTO, Jan 20 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:MSFT) indicated on
Tuesday it might have overreacted to the Web site of Canadian teenager
Mike Rowe who had added the word "soft" to his name and registered the
address mikerowesoft.com.

"We take our trademark seriously, but in this case maybe a little too
seriously," Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler said.

"We appreciate that Mike Rowe is a young entrepreneur who came up with
a creative domain name, so we're currently in the process of resolving
this matter in a way that will be fair to him and satisfy our
obligations under trademark law," Desler said.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40237298

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From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: America's Opinion of  AOL
Date: 20 Jan 2004 04:57:04 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


What's the general view of AOL in the US?  I use them on their
broadband package here in the UK and find them really good -- but
expensive (GBP27.99 or USD50/month for broadband is not cheap, even in
Europe, where things are generally more expensive than in the USA).
However, they're often seen as something of a joke and as a
simpleton's version of the internet as they use their own software,
instead of using IE or NN.

Hmm ... Just thought I'd ask!  :-)


Rob

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From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Fax And Friction
Date: 20 Jan 2004 11:05:17 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Seth Lubove, 01.20.04, Forbes.com

LOS ANGELES - Pity the hapless travel agent or car dealer whose fax
advertisement happens to appear on a fax machine belonging to one Ben
Livingston of Seattle, Wash. A self-described "small-claims warrior,"
Livingston has made a side business out of suing these companies and
many more for the sin of sending him unsolicited fax ads, better known
as junk faxes.

"Rather than just hang up, recycle or delete, I've been filing small
claims against these obnoxious marketers," Livingston declares on his
Web site, which also offers an 11-chapter guide on how to turn tables
on telemarketers, junk faxers and spammers. To further humiliate the
businesses, Livingston posts all the court documents and letters he
sends, in which he typically demands a standard $500 fine, or $1,500
if the fax was sent knowingly. In all, he says he's collected about
$6,000 in three years.

Now, thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court, Livingston and a small army of
plaintiffs, attorneys and self-appointed activists have more license
to go after businesses that send them junk faxes. In refusing during
the week of January 12 to hear a case that claimed the 1991 federal
ban on unsolicited faxes violates free-speech rights, the high court
let stand a lower-court ruling involving a lawsuit filed by the state
of Missouri against Fax.com. The suit accused Fax.com, once the
largest fax blaster in the U.S., of illegally sending unsolicited ads
to fax machines in the state.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/20/cz_sl_0120faxes.html


Eric Friedebach
/Mars: northern Nevada without the legal brothels/

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From: ahinsp1@hotmail.com
Subject: The Qwest Spirit of Service  Bye Bye Qwest
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:27:27 GMT


I recently moved to Phoenix, AZ.  This is my first experience with
Qwest, (formerly known as USWorst according to my sister in Oregon.
Now I know where they got that name.)

As I am only staying in this apartment temporarily until my house is
ready (in 4 months or so).  I decided to grit my teeth and suffer with
dialup.  From time to time I toyed with the idea of DSL, but Qwest DSL
is a bad deal with only a 256K download provided in their basic
service.

Last week my speed dropped to 28K.  After checking my system,
downloading the latest modem drivers, etc., I decided to order DSL.
Guess what?  After 5 months of showing my line as qualifying for DSL,
it is now shown as not qualifying.  I suspected that my line had been
multiplexed; this was confirmed by a call to Qwest tech support.

The phone rep went through all of the blather about them not being
required to provide 52k for modems, etc.  I told him that I knew all
about voice line tariffs but that I had 52K for 5 months and that they
had made a change to the line that effectively cut my service in half
while still charging me the same.  He told me that they would try to
see if they could get me a pair that was not multiplexed.  I suppose
that is more than they have to do. Unfortunately, I never heard from
them again.

Just got a flyer from Cox Cable in the mail today.  My internet
service will be up by 7pm tomorrow and my Qwest phone number will be
ported to Cox by next Wed.  Bye Bye Qwest.  

This is what Qwest gets for the "We don't care, we don't have to.
We're the telephone company."  attitude.

The next time I see one of their ads spouting off about the Qwest
"Spirit of Service" I am going to vomit.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Southwestern Bell (SBC) is just as bad.
I dealt with them for a long time here in Independence, and listened
to their lies and their stalls.  They were getting around 50-60
dollars each month for DSL out of me *and* another 40 something for
phone service. I finally decided to switch to our local phone company
(Prairie Stream) since they offer the full package of features for
$29 per month and include a hundred minutes of 'anywhere/anytime'
long distance for free in the same package. Plus which, when you call
them after one or two rings a *live person* answers to help you. SBC 
tried to claim I was 'not eligible' for porting my numbers to Prairie
Stream since I had a freeze on my account. I got that removed after
wading through voice mail hell and waiting ten minutes or so on hold.
Prairie Stream then tried to convert my account, only to have SBC
claim once again I was 'not eligible' for conversion since I had DSL
on my line. Their oh-so-precious and perfect DSL. And if I wanted to
keep that on my line (and they, in their arrogance could not see why
I would not want to) therefore I had to stay with them until hell froze
over. I told them to get their DSL out immediatly, and I got turned
on by our local cable company, Cable One. (Although Coffeyville and
a couple other towns here in our county have Cox.) And Cable One even
gives me a discount since I already have their radio/television
cable service.  Cable One is going to start telephone service here
in Independence rather soon also, but I sort of like Prairie Stream.

Since I finally got free totally from Southwestern Bell, they have
bombarded me on average once per week with all sorts of offers trying
to induce me back, including a couple months of free DSL, phone service
for $29 per month -- full service, unlimited features, fifty dollar
VISA shopping cards, no installation fees, etc. You should watch and
see what happens when Cox tries to port your phone number from Qwest.
I'll bet anything Qwest -- in the old Bell tradition -- first tries
to stall you, or claims they do not have to release your line, and
then once you have been ported, they try to lure you back with all
sorts of outrageous offers of free or reduced price service, and gift
cards, etc. Good for you, getting that monkey off your back!   PAT]

------------------------------

From: John Bartley <johnbartley@email.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:20:30 -0800
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks


On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:37:34 -0500, Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com> wrote:

> The recent articles on DSL availabilty prompted me to check with
> Verizon yet again to see if Verizon had at last made DSL available in
> my neighborhood in Northern VA.  I was pleasantly surprised to see
> that they had, and with a little bit of searching discovered a
> wireless hub and small wireless USB adaptors at buy.com on sale for
> about $35 each.  The wired versions -- either conventional NIC cards
> using CAT 5 cable or the HPNA stle which use phone lines are both more
> expensive and the former of course entails running and terminating
> cables. 

Instead of HPNA, suggest looking at HomePlug
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020815.html

> Three colleagues, all more knowledgeable and opinionated than I, have
> strongly warned against the more expedient wireless solution because
> of security vulnerabilities. 

They are _good_ friends of yours.

> I thought these things were range limited Part 15 devices, 

They are. Which means, nada, to anyone with a high gain directional
anywhere near to LOS.  I made a six mile hop once with a three story
hotel wing blocking the direct LOS, so LOS ain't absolutely required.

> I live on a cul-de-sac where someone "cruising for hot spots" would
> be pretty conspicuous.

'Robert X. Cringely' made his work over a distance of seven miles, and
did it with a Pringles can antenna, not the high-gain 802.11b antenna
anyone can buy from HRO nowadays.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/about/
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010712.html
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020207.html

And, here, he documents a passive repeater which can be nailed up in a
tree, anywhere within LOS.  If a wardriver finds your network, this
device, needing no power on the tree, retransmits your signal to
wherever he is, giving him time to crack it at his leisure.  In 24
hours (appx.), even a no-volume network sends enough traffic to be
cracked, just from ID signals from the wireless access point (which I
will call a 'WAP/hub' henceforth).
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010628.html

Oh, BTW, Utah students made 802.11b work at 82 miles. 

http://classes.weber.edu/wireless/Default.htm

> Would appreciate any ideas or experiences, good or bad, that the
> readership would be willing to share, either here in the Digest or
> off net.

1. Make sure to change the network name from the default setting.
2. Turn on the highest level of security possible.
3. Turn the WAP/hub off every night and leave it off when not in use.
4. Manually generate the encryption keys.
5. Set up a VPN.

> TD is a teriffic resource.

Yep.

John Bartley, K7AAY
http://celdata.cjb.net

------------------------------

From: Robert Weller <rweller@h-e.com>
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:44:19 -0800


I have two friends with "quad zero" home phone numbers.  One also has
a cell phone number with 5 zeros, and his Airphone number has
s-e-v-e-n zeros!


Bob

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I cannot understand how someone would
get seven zero numbers, even if the zeros were not consecutive (that
is were in the area code and the rest of the number in various orders.
PAT]

------------------------------

From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Re: Place Name for 610-388
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:57:22 UTC
Organization: Roamer1 Communications - Dunwoody, GA, USA
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org


In article <telecom23.26.12@telecom-digest.org>, Carl Moore wrote:

> (via AT&T) to a phone on 610-388, which is along the Delaware border
> (is local to Wilmington, Del.) and reaches up to a stretch of U.S. 1.

> AT&T bill which includes that call has arrived, and it gives the place
> name as Chadds Ford (do not recall seeing Chadds Ford in that context
> before), but nanpa.com (and the old phone books for that area) give
> 388 (which is a holdover from the 215 area) as Mendenhall.

More than likely the person you called also has AT&T LD and the bill
shows the city associated with the other end's billing address instead
of the actual rate center name as defined by NANPA.  Before I dropped
AT&T LD a few years ago I noticed that calls to my parents in 706-866,
who also had AT&T LD at the time, were listed on AT&T bills as "Ft
Oglthrp GA" (which, oddly enough, is how "Fort Oglethorpe" was spelled
by BellSouth on their local bill) instead of "Rossville GA" (which is
the rate center name as defined by NANPA, etc.), but calls to
customers of other LD carriers in 706-866 were listed as "Rossville
GA".  I also noticed differences in the way New Orleans was spelled
("New Orlens LA" vs. "Neworleans LA") on calls to a known AT&T LD
customer vs. calls to cell phones and so on in New Orleans...

I've seen a couple of small LD carriers show calls to my home POTS
line as being to "Chamblee GA" and not "Atlanta NE GA" since they
apparently don't know about Atlanta's rate center consolidation yet...
;)


Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/

"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

------------------------------

From: yinhchew@yahoo.com (Yin)
Subject: 800 Number Transfer
Date:  19 Jan 2004 15:37:29 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi! I wonder if anyone of you might know about how to resolve this
situation:

We have a 800 number with a telecom company now.  We are in the middle
of transfering that over to another telecom company.  This telecom
company would not release it because of a billing dispute that is
pending. It seems that we have to resolve it before this is done.
However, they seems reluctant to give more help to resolve it and I
feel that they are stalling for time.  Is there any way to transfer
the 800 number away so that at least this is secure?


Thanks.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am not sure. I *think* when the telco
*claims* you still owe them money that is the one exception to the
rules on porting numbers. After all, if they cannnot get you to pay
them when they have the number turned on and working, that is the
one bit of arm-twisting they still have available to them. You really
should consult with our resident 800 number portability/recovery 
expert, Judith Oppenheimer. If it can be done legally (porting a
number when there is a delinquent balance due) Judith can handle it
for you.  Look at http://1800TheExpert.com and send her email from
there.   PAT]


------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Companies Tossing Aside Consumers' Freedoms
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:32:32 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


See response below the article:

Monty Solomon wrote:

> By Dan Gillmor
> Mercury News Technology Columnist

> The digital revolution has been all about empowering people, to use
> technology in ways that broaden our horizons and our freedom. So when
> the tech industry began moving into consumer electronics, there were
> reasons to expect great things.

> The consumer electronics companies, by and large, have sold closed
> boxes that deliberately limit customers' options. This is by
> tradition, in part for simplicity and ease of use, but also to placate
> an entertainment industry that tramples customers' rights in the name
> of curbing copyright infringement.

> I've been hoping that the tech industry will bring its better
> traditions into the living room -- expanding customers' flexibility
> and creativity, not curbing them.

> At the giant Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in early January,
> the evidence was mixed. While new technology is adding some useful
> features to consumer electronics, tech companies -- by embracing
> Hollywood-dictated restrictions on how digital content is used -- have
> allied themselves with a greedy cartel at the expense of their own
> customers.

> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7739841.htm

> http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/dan_gillmor/7739841.htm

Agreed with almost all the points, but as I see how others use
computers in general, I get the distinct feeling that they don't WANT
to know what else it (that box on their desk) it can do, but are
willing to accept the defaults that the manufacturer has shipped.

For example, several acquaintances have computers (yep, windows of
some ilk is the OS) and expensive high-res monitors, yet they have
never reset their screen resolution from the default 800x600.  Even
after I have pointed it out, they then tell me that "web pages look
funny" at the new (higher) resolution, so they go back to 800 X 600.

This attitude will probably permeate down to any devices which the
general populace uses.  They will mostly use whatever settings the
manufacturer has as defaults.  Lemmings will be lemmings, and this is
how Microsoft made its fortune.

Give people more choice and they, by and large, will be more confused
... because the folks who purvey the products make it seem like it's a
black art and if you change an option, then they can't support it,
etc.  Sort of sounds like alchemy, doesn't it?

About time we took this out of the realm of alchemy into an
engineering discipline.

What does any of this have to do with telecom, anyway? :)


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

Reply-To: <rjbabich@telesoft.com>
From: rjbabich <rjbabich@telesoft.com>
Subject: Adding Invoicewatch.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:07:57 -0700



I really liked your site and wanted to know if you would be so kind to
list our news site on Telecom Billing, Invoicewatch.com, its a
non-profit discussion site.

Also, can you add telesoft.com?   We are a Telemanagement vendor.

We will add your site to our News and Research section on both sites.


Thanks,

Ron Babich
Director of Business Development and Marketing
Telesoft Corp.
3443 N. Central Ave. Suite 1800
Phoenix, AZ  85012
Voice: (800) 456-6061 Ext 1111
Fax:    (602) 308-1300
Email:mailto:rjbabich@telesoft.com
Web: http://www.telesoft.com/

------------------------------

From: whitepaper@1800teledeal.com (411 Whitepaper)
Subject:  411 - Directory Assistance Least Call Routing Whitepaper
Date:  19 Jan 2004 20:22:03 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


NEWS RELEASE
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
JANUARY 20, 2004


TeleDeal Inc. has released a 411 Whitepaper that all Corporate Telecom
Users should have a copy of.

The 411 Whitepaper can be found at: http://1800teledeal.com/pbx.pdf

Via 411 Least Call Routing, 80% savings are possible on 411 Directory
Assistance calls. An intro $.29/411 call rate is provided vs. $1.50
for many large RBOCs and $2.49 for IXCs such as Sprint and MCI.

A Free Trial and convenient month to month terms are available. The
$.29 rate includes toll-free 800# transport to the 411 Call
Center. The 411 Call Centers are U.S. based based vs. lower quality
offshore 411 Call Centers.

411 Whitepaper Summary:

The 411 Whitepaper provides details on how a Telecom Manager or
Telecom Consultant for a business can bypass costly 411 / NPA-555-1212
Live Operator Directory Assistance Services from Local and Long
Distance Telephone Providers and Least Call Route (LCR) 411 calls to
the lower priced and higher quality U.S. Directory Assistance Call
Center.

LCR is also known as Automatic Route Selection (ARS).

Benefits: 80% typical savings with "ONE" Low Nationwide 411 Rate
versus "MULTIPLE" Higher rates from numerous Telco providers. A state
by state comparison of TeleDeal's intro 411 Rate ($.29) versus Local
and Long Distance Provider 411 Rates is shown.  Complete and simple
PBX programming details are provided.

Also noted are details about blocking Directory Assistance Call
Completion(DACC)for even greater 411 savings.

Directory Assistance is an "Eligble Service" under the federal E-Rate
program for Schools & Libraries additional discounts of up to 90% could
then apply to the $.29 411 rate.

This Whitepaper can be obtained by sending an email to:
whitepaper@1800teledeal.com or downloading a copy at:
http://1800teledeal.com/pbx.pdf

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Paul)
    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Joseph)
    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Rich Greenberg)
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Robert Weller)
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Charles Cryderman)
    Re: Wireless Home Networks (Stan)
    Enhanced Services Adoption Rate (nix)
    Using Calling Card to Dial Internet Access From Hotel? (Joe Blo)
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From: Paul <paule@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of  AOL
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:24:28 -0500
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Personally, I think they're scumbags.  It is almost impossible to
cancel service with them.  I witnessed a friend of mine on the phone
with them for an hour trying to cancel his son's AOL account.  Seems
she kept "losing" the account info while he was on the line.  You
know, that crazy computer system, gosh darn ...

She made him repeat his full name, address, account number, credit
card number, blood type, etc. at least 4 times during the call.  They
really try to wear you out.  Even though it was the parent's credit
card on the account, AOL had the nerve to tell him they were not
authorized to cancel the account and the son would need to do it.  But
the son is not 18 yet, so go figure.

Their intent, in my opinion, is to get you to just hang up in disgust
and live with the bill for another month.


-- Paul

Rob <rob51166@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.29.4@telecom-digest.org:

> What's the general view of AOL in the US?  I use them on their
> broadband package here in the UK and find them really good -- but
> expensive (GBP27.99 or USD50/month for broadband is not cheap, even in
> Europe, where things are generally more expensive than in the USA).
> However, they're often seen as something of a joke and as a
> simpleton's version of the internet as they use their own software,
> instead of using IE or NN.

> Hmm ... Just thought I'd ask!  :-)

> Rob


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Like telco, you find good and bad in
the customer service area at AOL. Some are total dumbos, like they
were imported from the telemarketing unit to fill in for a short
time, while a few others are sort of sharp mentally.   PAT

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of  AOL
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:09:38 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On 20 Jan 2004 04:57:04 -0800, rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote:

> What's the general view of AOL in the US?  I use them on their
> broadband package here in the UK and find them really good -- but
> expensive (GBP27.99 or USD50/month for broadband is not cheap, even in
> Europe, where things are generally more expensive than in the USA).
> However, they're often seen as something of a joke and as a
> simpleton's version of the internet as they use their own software,
> instead of using IE or NN.

Most people in the know seem to think of AOL as "the Internet with
training wheels."  AOL has most of its "clients" usually pretty dumbed
down.  Features that most net users take for granted are lacking in
the AOL versions of things like web browser, news reader, email
client, etc.  It's usually the case that you can get an equivalent
offering from a "real" Internet Service Provider at less cost than
going through AOL.  Some people who are really not very computer savvy
will start out with AOL even though the standard internet tools are
for the most part very easy-to-use.  Then again people should use what
works for them.  I've used Eudora for email for over 10 years and have
used Agent for about as long.  I've gone through starting with one of
the original versions of Netscape (that could fit on less than a 1.44
floppy!) and am currently using MicroSloth Internet Exploder.  Bottom
line is you use what you "grew up with"  or whatever's comfortable
whether that's AOL for some or using the "clients" that you use.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That is one reason why as the USA 
now seriously starts to get wired up, the AOL customer as well is
growing proportionatly. More and more and more guys are getting on
the net for the first time in their lives and their level of intelligence
gets them up to the level of AOL or Yahoo for their ISP service, and 
that is about all. Computers and the internet are at the phase in
their development that the telephone was at around 1920 through recent
years. People insisted they wanted a phone, but had no real idea how
it worked, or why, just how to get numbers on it and talk, etc. I talk
to a lot of younger guys here in Independence who have 'grown up all
their lives' with a computer and net connectivity in their homes and
treat it like the phone; a utility device for communications, nothing
more. They know how to get on Yahoo or AOL to use the chat rooms, not
much else. And some of them feel that is 'too complicated to learn or
use on a regular basis'.  Lisa Minter, for example, 'grew up with'
Yahoo Messenger. Yahoo is even easier to use than AOL in my
opinion, and as spam-ridden or more than AOL. Why do you feel AOL and
Yahoo are targeted by so many spammers? (AOL claimed once a billion
pieces of spam in a month ... imagine that!) Spammers want to go where
the audience reception will be best.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL
Date: 21 Jan 2004 07:16:16 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.29.4@telecom-digest.org>, Rob
<rob51166@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What's the general view of AOL in the US?  I use them on their

Many of us feel that the purpose of AOL is to give experienced
internet users a group to make ethnic jokes about.


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From: Robert Weller <rweller@h-e.com>
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:36:16 -0800


Hello Pat,

Oops.  I meant NINE zeros.  

Airphone is a private network, so you can choose ANY 10-digit number.
Most people choose their home or office phone numbers for easy
memorization, but the choice is truly arbitrary.  One can choose, for
example, 500-000-0000 (nine zeros).  I suppose that someone beat out
my friend for 000-000-0000 (ten zeros), so he had to settle for nine!

One dials the Airphone access number over the PSTN, and then enters
the subscriber's Airphone number.

Bob Weller

TELECOM Digest Editor noted in reply to Robert Weller <rweller@h-e.com>
about Re: All-Zeros Numbers on Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:44:19 -0800


> I have two friends with "quad zero" home phone numbers.  One also
> has a cell phone number with 5 zeros, and his Airphone number has
> s-e-v-e-n zeros!

> Bob

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I cannot understand how someone would
> get seven zero numbers, even if the zeros were not consecutive (that
> is were in the area code and the rest of the number in various
> orders.)  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Charles Cryderman <Charles.Cryderman@globalcrossing.com>
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:47 -0500


In TD V23 #28 Dr. Hoffman wrote:

> When I was in high school, I had a parent with a phone number ending
> in -0000.  A teacher wanted a parent-teacher onference, and when I
> gave the teacher the number, I got punished and had to stay after
> school for lying.

Well Joel, good thing it wasn't today. They are now sending kids to be
prosecuted for dang near anything. I read about a girl that was taken
to jail just for not wanting to change her shirt.


Chip Cryderman

------------------------------

From: Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:14:39 GMT
Organization: RoadRunner - Carolina


Considering this thread, I had a recent experience and I ask the group
for advice.

While setting up my new iPaq, I tried to access the wireless router in
my house in order to download content from the internet without having
to place the device in its docking cradle. Granted, it's not a feature
that I would use while at home, but I was playing.

I have WEP enabled on my network, and no amount of combinations of the
iPaq menu selections and entering my key manually would permit me
access. I'm not really concerned about that right now.

While playing with the options, I found that three of my neighbors
apparently have wireless networks in their houses as well. This is not
an apartment building, this is a subdivision in a former
cornfield. Plenty of space between houses.

While apparently one of my neighbors read the manual and set up some
security, the other two networks were named "Linksys" and
"Netgear". It looks like someone got some new toys for Christmas and
didn't bother to change one setting out of the box. Without any effort
at all (and I mean really NO effort ... automatic wireless is an
option on the iPaq), I accessed Mr. Netgear's broadband connection and
started surfing the web, using Internet Explorer built into the
device.

So now, the 'karma question' comes into play. Do I find out which of
my neighbors is Mr. (or Mrs.) Netgear and Mr. Linksys and tell them to
please turn on some security before someone comes along and downloads
all their birthday party pictures? If I was going to be a nice
neighbor and do that, what stops me from getting hit with the
question, "Well now, what were you doing accessing my network?"

So I leave it to the TD reader. How would you approach this dicey situation?

Thanks ...

-Stan

Dr. Joel M. Hoffman <joel@exc.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.28.4@telecom-digest.org:

>> Three colleagues, all more knowledgeable and opinionated than me, have
>> strongly warned against the more expedient wireless solution because
>> of security vulnerabilities. I thought these things were range limited

> If you set up your WiFi network properly, it's no more unsecure than
> anything else you're probably running.

> A really determined cracker can get to your computer from the Internet
> through whatever firewall you have set up, or can even splice a
> connection into your cable somewhere.  Crackers don't need you to be
> running a wireless network to get into your system.

> The real problem with wireless is that most people don't install any
> sort of encryption.

> -Joel


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well my suggestion is that if you find
out who they are that you send them an *unsigned, anonymous* email
telling them about it. In fact if you can get into NetGear or Linksys
you can probably send them email in their own names using their mail
client. Just send email from Mr. NetGear to Mr. NetGear discussing
your findings and then let nature take its course. Stress to them 
both that you did nothing to harm their computers or their reputation
(if you have not) and that as a 'concerned friend' you feel it should
be mentioned. Go back in a few days and see if they have renamed their
networks or done some kind of encryption. If not, then repeat your
message once again. If they have done something, but it is a hopelessly
simple and easily breakable solution, then write them again, but be
encouraging and pleasant, and offer to help them make it better. When
and if the day comes that *you* cannot break in, then the job has been
done.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: nix <nix@uswest.com.nospam>
Subject: Enhanced services adoption rate
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:17:59 -0800


Hi,

Just wanted to find out if there is a source of information that show
adoption rates for various CLASS 5 services. Namely Call Waiting.
Even anecdotal information will suffice.

Thanks.

------------------------------

From: techman41973@yahoo.com (Joe Blo)
Subject: Using Calling Card to Dial Internet Access From Hotel?
Date:  20 Jan 2004 23:09:24 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I tried using my laptop to dial my local internet connection telephone
number via my calling card from my hotel room. It did not work, even
though I perfected the pauses and touch tone codes to where the
laptop got through and started connecting. However no connection could
be established. If I dialed direct from the hotel long distance, this
number worked fine (@ a 1.50 per minute) Could it be that some calling
cards (my Walmart & AT&T branded) could degrade the signal through its
signal path significantly to cause problems?  

Thanks.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, that is possible but it is also
possible and more likely that the hotel is playing games with calling
cards, 1010, or 800 numbers, or anything that does not make extra
money for the switchboard downstairs.

Mrs. Brown, the manager of the first apartment I lived in back in the
1960's once said to me, "well the switchboard doesn't make any money
for the owners, but you have to have one for the guests." But these
days, every square inch of space in a motel/hotel is expected to be a
profit center for the owners. Every square inch of floor space except
maybe the elevator or mechanical lift between floors. And watch,
someday there may be coin operated elevators as well. Lord knows
having a human being sitting in the car in a chair operating the lift
got to be too expensive so that got eliminated thanks to Otis and
others. I would look at the politics of the hotel first instead of the
possible signal degredation.

You might also look at dialing the number manually *then* turning on
your modem once the remote modem has answered and see what happens
then.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: jacobbec@yahoo.com (Jacob)
Subject: Merin Legend With Voice Server
Date:  21 Jan 2004 02:19:17 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello, 

I would like to integrate an Amanda Voice mail ( equipped with six
analog ports) with a Telephon switch type Lucent Merlin Legend
communication system (Release 5.0), so I am asking  what I have to do
from the Telephon switch side to perform the integration and how I
could  configure Lucent Telephon switch for that?  What should I do on
the Amanda Side ?

Note that I am new to Lucent Telephon switch operation and to the
voice mail Integration so, any Urls and sample guides and
configurations will be very appreciated.

Best Regards,

Jacob

------------------------------

From: Paul <paule@mindspring.com>
Subject: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo?
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:47:09 -0500
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


In our area, SBC is now advertising $20/month per *business* line,
unlimited long distance.  For our little company, that means for
$80/mo. I can have unlimited LD on our 4 lines.  Seems too good an
offer from the "evil empire".  Sure, it's got a one year term, but
heck, still a good deal.  This is the grid of what they are offering
here in Ohio:

http://www05.sbc.com/Products_Services/Business/Catalog/1,,13--12-1-13,00.html

Can anyone find a "gotcha" in the $20 plan? Why do they even offer the
$50/mo plan with 3.5 cents/min.?

To think two or three years ago we had $500+ bills every month, now we
have sub $200 bills with ECG Telecom. I almost hate to switch from ECG
since they are the first LD company in 10 years that has been decent
and affordable.


-- Paul

------------------------------

From: johnkaputnik@yahoo.com (Kaputnik)
Subject: Triennial Review Order
Date: 21 Jan 2004 11:43:37 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Where can I find talking points on how states are affected by the TRO?

I need the talking points in layman's terms.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.


JK

------------------------------

Subject: Ring Through to POTS
From: NJ <donotsendme@email.xyz>
Organization: Please send all replies to the NG
Date: 21 Jan 2004 19:32:05 GMT


Hi,

I was wondering if there are services available that will allow you to
get a local number that would ring through to another number.

Example: Let's say my cell phone number is 123-555-1234, but I don't want 
to give that out or print it on my business cards. Can I get a phone number 
(that can later be ported if necessary) that would ring to the cell phone 
(or any other number I designate)??

Thank you for your assistance, and my apologies if I have misused the 
terminology, I am not a phone expert. :)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, just get a number with Call
Forwarding (or better still, delayed Call Forwarding) on it. Or as
my last choice (because it is remote and you have no user control
over it) a 'Remote Call Forwarded' line. That last choice is good
if you want a number in a distant phone exchange for your callers.
The first two choices are better if all you need is a local number
behind which to secrete or hide your cell phone number. Delayed call
forwarding is best IMO since if you are at your home and forget to
turn on the forwarding when you go out (taking your cell phone along)
your calls will reach there anyway after 3-4 additional rings. If you
do not have a deseased brain like myself and can remember to turn on
call forwarding each time you leave home then get a 'regular' call
forwarding type phone line. 

As an example, our taxicab service here in Independence uses a call-
forwarded line to reach the dispatchers. '6019' is a *well known*
number here for a taxicab. But the dispatchers (who work from their
homes) do not wish to be bothered by calls for cabs when they are
off duty. So when a dispatcher goes on duty the 6019 line is call-
forwarded to his home number; when he goes off duty at the end of
his shift, another dispatcher notifies him and 'pulls' the 6019
number to *his* home line and starts taking calls from people who
want a cab. (Then he uses *his* radio to call one of the drivers
on the street, etc). Even though I happen to know the phone numbers
of Betty or Ernie or Grover, all I *need to know* (and all the
general public needs to know) is 'You want a cab? Then call 6019." 
Betty and Ernie also have a distinctive ring number (which is where
the 6019 number is call-forwarded) so they know before they answer
which answer-phrase to use, either 'good morning, this is I-Cab'
or 'hello' or whatever they say. The other cab company (City Cab)
does more or less the same thing, 1581 rings a call diverter in 
his home which redials his cell phone number.

That's the other thing you can do, is buy a call diverter (see
http://www.sandman.com for details, send mail to Mike there) but 
although these give you full control over the cloaking of one number
by calling another number, call forwarding from telco is less 
expensive.  Telco call forwarding costs each month the cost of the
phone line (get a minimum outgoing package) and three or four dollars
for the call forwarding option added to the line. I hope this has
answered your questions.  PAT] 

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:36:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 31

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Clarence Dold)
    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Lightspeed Technical Support)
    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Nick Landsberg)
    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
    Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo? (Kilo Delta One)
    Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo? (John Levine)
    Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo? (SELLCOM Tech) 
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Joey Lindstrom)
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    Re: Using Calling Card to Dial Internet Access From Hotel? (Stan Cline)
    Re: Ring Through to POTS (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    Re: Wireless Home Networks (SELLCOM Tech support)
    Re: Wireless Home Networks (Joey Lindstrom)
    Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo? (Joey Lindstrom)

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From: dold@AmericaXsX.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of  AOL
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:13:15 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Paul <paule@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Personally, I think they're scumbags.  It is almost impossible to
> cancel service with them.  I witnessed a friend of mine on the phone
> with them for an hour trying to cancel his son's AOL account.  Seems
> she kept "losing" the account info while he was on the line.  You
> know, that crazy computer system, gosh darn ...

After having AOL for many years, I disconnected without problem a
month or so ago.  There was a slight detour as the agent offered some
minor free service, which struck me as less than the mailers that come
out all the time.  That was it.  The service is gone.  No hassle.

I don't think I ever actually used AOL, but my daughter was as
attached to her AOL user name as I am to my rahul account, even
thought I pay more for it than I should.  She decided that "free" was
better, so now I get to read an advertisement at the bottom of every
one of her emails.  I don't think I ever had a complaint about AOL
service, other than once when she sent the same email to everyone in
her mail address book, which triggered some internal spam control and
blocked her account.


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:46:09 -0800
From: Lightspeed Technical Support <mnewton@lightspeed.ca>
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of  AOL


> Personally, I think they're scumbags.  It is almost impossible to
> cancel service with them.  I witnessed a friend of mine on the phone
> with them for an hour trying to cancel his son's AOL account.  Seems
> she kept "losing" the account info while he was on the line.  You
> know, that crazy computer system, gosh darn ...

> She made him repeat his full name, address, account number, credit
> card number, blood type, etc. at least 4 times during the call.  They
> really try to wear you out.  Even though it was the parent's credit
> card on the account, AOL had the nerve to tell him they were not
> authorized to cancel the account and the son would need to do it.  But
> the son is not 18 yet, so go figure.

> Their intent, in my opinion, is to get you to just hang up in disgust
> and live with the bill for another month.

> -- Paul

Don't know about the US, but my wife worked in billing at AOL Europe.
The call centre down in Waterford had a department referred to as
either "the cancellation department" or "the member save department"
(depending whether or not one was talking to a customer.)  These guys
were paid commission for every account they stopped from cancelling,
and were authorised to use all sorts of incentives to entice people to
stay on (my wife's job included auditing all the freebies that the
member save department was giving away.)


mike.

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of  AOL
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:31:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


[ Much Snipped ]

Our esteemed moderator wrote, in part:

> (AOL claimed once a billion pieces of spam in a month ...
> imagine that!)


Pat,

It's more like 2.4 Billion pieces of SPAM per DAY which hits AOL now,
according to an article regarding the recently passed "Right to Spam"
bill.

That's an average of 100,000,000 per hour.  At those rates, we can
forget about the usual peaking factors I normally use for computing
BHCA, it's a steady stream.  That's almost 30,000 pieces of junk Email
every second.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to how much CPU power it takes to
run their SPAM filter and how many CPU's are dedicated to just that?
Or how much disk space they need to store all of that SPAM assuming
that the Junk mail folder is cleared out on average once per day?

I bet yahoo is in the same boat.

The Resident Skeptic and Professional Paranoid.

                 =======================

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 22 Jan 2004 01:39:48 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL


> Many of us feel that the purpose of AOL is to give experienced
> internet users a group to make ethnic jokes about.

Hey -watch it. I had been a Cox subscriber until I told them to take
their sub-par network out of my @#(*&@#$& house. Too damned expensive
for what I was getting.

Then I needed some way to at least check email. Installed AOL 9.0 and
it's not bad really. As much as I've slammed it it works reasonably
well. It does dumb down many things but I can deal with that
temporarily. And the nice thing - it's free, free, free until the 1st
of March.

One nice thing about AOL is that any Time/Warner content is free,
stuff like Time and a few other online magazines that are normally
subsciption only. But once I get the DSL installed I'll just ditch it.

But UPS tried delivering my DSL stuff today. As many times as I've
told them that they should try to deliver before 5PM they never do.

------------------------------

From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 22 Jan 2004 01:35:31 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo?


> In our area, SBC is now advertising $20/month per *business* line,
> unlimited long distance.  For our little company, that means for
> $80/mo. I can have unlimited LD on our 4 lines.  Seems too good an
> offer from the "evil empire".  Sure, it's got a one year term, but
> heck, still a good deal.  This is the grid of what they are offering
> here in Ohio:

Be careful. I noticed that around here Verizon is offering business
customers in RI $38 a month for unlimited. In the fine print on the ad
you see that normal line charges apply.

Not sure what the RI line charge is but it's probably still a savings
for business since it also includes unlimited local and LD. Usually
it's about .02 for local calls so you'd have to make 31+ hours of
outgoing local a month to justify the $38. That doesn't even factor
LD.

Sounds like a fairly good deal for you though. Just beware. 

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jan 2004 04:23:36 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> http://www05.sbc.com/Products_Services/Business/Catalog/1,,13--12-1-13,00.html

> Can anyone find a "gotcha" in the $20 plan?

If you don't make many international calls, it does look like a good
deal.  I see they also have a total package for $59 for the first line
and $44 for each add'l line, so maybe that's cheaper.

> Why do they even offer the $50/mo plan with 3.5 cents/min.?

The $50 is total, not per line.  If you have three or more lines that
each make less than $20/mo of calls, this plan is better.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies,
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Sewer Commissioner
"A book is a sneeze." - E.B. White, on the writing of Charlotte's Web

John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo?
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:38:56 GMT


Paul <paule@mindspring.com> posted on that vast internet thingie:

> In our area, SBC is now advertising $20/month per *business* line,
> unlimited long distance.  For our little company, that means for
> $80/mo. I can have unlimited LD on our 4 lines.

Some fear that the land line phone may be heading the way of the
typewriter.


Steve

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, 

Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Talkswitch,
Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Minuteman UPS
systems If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:47:00 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers


Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 10:02:49 PM, editor wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I cannot understand how someone would
> get seven zero numbers, even if the zeros were not consecutive
> (that is were in the area code and the rest of the number in various
> orders.  PAT]

The toll-free number for Super 8 Hotels is 1-800-800-8000.  This of
course is non-consecutive but it's still seven 0's.  Another valid
number would be 1-800-800-0000, and indeed when I dial that number,
it's answered by an autoattendant who says "thank you for calling PC
Connection".  That's got eight 0's.  Similarly, combinations like
1-810-800-0000 and 1-710-700-0000 would all be valid - all with seven
0's.

Back to the original poster (sorry, lost your name): Up until the late
1980's (or was it early 1990's?), the city of Calgary (where I live)
had phone numbers that all began with "2" - that is, all phone numbers
were in the format 2xx-xxxx.  Finally, they ran out of such numbers in
the 403 area code, and began assigning central office codes that began
with other digits (note: at this time, only "nnx" format office codes
were used.  Later, "nxx" codes were used, and that gave Calgary 18
more codes that began with "2".  "200" and "211" are not used.)

The first such code was 569.  Around about that time I moved to a new
place, and since we didn't have number portability at that time, and
since I was moving to a new central office area, I had to get two new
phone numbers -- one for my voice line, and one for my BBS.  The
numbers assigned were:

569-0000
569-0008

I figured the first one should be used by the BBS: it was easier to
remember, and it would likely attract crank callers anyways - better
to have them listen to my modem's screams than wake me up at 3am.  I
used the latter as my voice line.  I didn't ask for an "easy to
remember" number on this occasion, but it's possible that this might
not have been a random assignment.  My previous BBS number was
248-9999, and I *HAD* requested that number (and paid a monthly
surcharge for the privilege), so when I moved to a new location, it's
POSSIBLE that somebody at the phone company went looking for a
similarly easy to remember number to replace it.  Nobody ever told me
so, and I no longer had to pay that monthly premium for a "special"
number.  It's just as likely this happened by chance.

(Please don't try calling any of the numbers mentioned: I haven't had
those numbers for about a decade and I'd rather you didn't bother the
new holders of those numbers.)

Anyway, the reason I mentioned the bit about all numbers beginning
with "2": a couple of months after getting these numbers, I had reason
to call somebody at the billing office of the phone company, which was
located in Edmonton (which had all of its numbers begin with "4",
btw).  I spoke to a lady and she said she would phone me back, and
would I please give her a number she could reach me at?  Certainly, I
said, and gave her 569-0008.  After a brief pause, she said "I thought
you said you lived in Calgary".  "I do," said I.  "Well, that number
can't be right, because ALL numbers in Calgary begin with '2'," she
replied, in a very prissy manner.  I had to spend the next couple of
minutes convincing this lady that I wasn't jerking her around: she
thought I was some sort of crank, and that I was giving her a fake
phone number for some reason.  And she worked for the PHONE COMPANY.
:-) Eventually, she agreed to hang up and phone me back directly, just
to prove I was really at that number.  Lily Tomlin woulda been proud
of her.


Joey Lindstrom

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:14:59 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers


Dr. Hoffman wrote:

> When I was in high school, I had a parent with a phone number ending
> in -0000.  A teacher wanted a parent-teacher onference, and when I
> gave the teacher the number, I got punished and had to stay after
> school for lying.

When I was in high school, I knew that xxx-9979 (where xxx was any
local exchange) was some kind of test number that would _always_
return a busy signal.  We students had to fill out cards each year
containing, among other things, our home phone number.  I always put
down a 9979 number.  I know it saved me at least once, because I was
sent up for some offense and the dean gave up dialing after about half
an hour and told me to go back to class :-)

It'd be interesting to know what that number was testing, if anybody
out there has a clue ... This was in the mid-1970s, the CO was then
312-832 (now 630-832).

-- 
Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It was testing the busy signal
generator, that is, the equipment causes you to hear busy
signals.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Re: Using Calling Card to Dial Internet Access From Hotel?
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:42:22 UTC
Organization: Roamer1 Communications - Dunwoody, GA, USA
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org


In article <telecom23.30.8@telecom-digest.org>, Joe Blo wrote:

> I tried using my laptop to dial my local internet connection telephone
> number via my calling card from my hotel room. It did not work, even
> though I perfected the pauses and touch tone codes to where the
> laptop got through and started connecting. However no connection could
> be established. If I dialed direct from the hotel long distance, this
> number worked fine (@ a 1.50 per minute) Could it be that some calling
> cards (my Walmart & AT&T branded) could degrade the signal through its
> signal path significantly to cause problems?  

If the calling card involved uses VoIP at any point during the call, it
definitely could -- but AFAIK, the Wal*Mart/Sam's AT&T cards don't use
VoIP ... but things are subject to change.  ;)

I've seen calling cards that would complete data calls fine but only
at v.34 speeds on lines known to get good v.90 connections on other
calls, and others that would work for data calls only sometimes, only
for domestic calls, or only for calls to specific areas (usually
smaller towns, which are more likely to be "off-net" for wholesale
VoIP carriers and so handed off directly to a standard
circuit-switched IXC.)

I doubt the hotel had anything to do with it.


Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/


"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:41:25 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: Ring Through to POTS


NJ wrote:

> I was wondering if there are services available that will allow you to
> get a local number that would ring through to another number.

> Example: Let's say my cell phone number is 123-555-1234, but I don't
> want to give that out or print it on my business cards. Can I get a
> phone number (that can later be ported if necessary) that would ring
> to the cell phone (or any other number I designate)??

In other words, you want to abstract your phone number.  I've actually
got a double-abstraction set up at the moment ...

I used to own a retail store.  When I closed the store, I wanted to
keep the phone number (630-691-xxxx) in case I manage to reopen some
day.  But the number is served by a different CO than my home office
number (630-832-xxxx).  So I ordered "Remote Call Forwarding" on that
line.  This immediately forwards all calls to the original number to
my home office; there is no physical presence for the store number
anyplace.

But I'm not always in the office, so I have "Busy Line Transfer" and
"Alternate Answering" on the office line.  These two services transfer
all calls to my cellphone if the office line is busy or unanswered
after 4 ring cycles.

People mostly call me on the 691 number.  That's always forwarded to
the 832 number; if I'm on the phone or on the road that bounces to the
cellphone.  I use the cellphone voicemail to take messages.  To
retrieve messages, I pick up my office phone and dial my own number --
That's busy (since I'm calling from it) so it forwards to the
cellphone, which is off when I'm in the office so it goes to
voicemail, where I punch in my PIN and pull messages without using
airtime.

SBC charges me $19.50/month for RCF, and 60 cents each for BLT and AA.
Plus whatever the usage charges are for the forwarded calls -- last
month that was about ten bucks.  (630-691 and 630-832 are in adjacent
COs so all the calls are local.)


BTW you can abstract your email also; buy yourself a domain someplace
(they can be had for $10/year or less) and have the mail forwarded to
your real email address.  That way, when you change ISPs you don't
have to tell everybody your new email address; just update the
forwarding with your domain registrar.  The downside to this, of
course, is that spam follows you just as easily as people :-/
Fortunately I find that Mozilla's bayesian filter trashes spam pretty
effectively for me.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 04:36:50 GMT


Stan <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com> posted on that vast internet
thingie:

> So now, the 'karma question' comes into play. Do I find out which of
> my neighbors is Mr. (or Mrs.) Netgear and Mr. Linksys and tell them to
> please turn on some security before someone comes along and downloads
> all their birthday party pictures? If I was going to be a nice
> neighbor and do that, what stops me from getting hit with the
> question, "Well now, what were you doing accessing my network?"

Well, it might be a "neighborly" thing to visit with some of your
closer neighbors and tell them what you noticed coming up on your
computer.  Be prepared to be a really really good neighbor and maybe
set up their wireless networks for them.  You might make a good friend
or two.


Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Talkswitch,
Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Minuteman UPS
systems If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:01:04 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks


Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 4:14:14 PM, editor wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well my suggestion is that if you
> find out who they are that you send them an *unsigned, anonymous*
> email telling them about it. In fact if you can get into NetGear or
> Linksys you can probably send them email in their own names using
> their mail client.

That's a rather large assumption, Pat.  Even if I find somebody's
unprotected network, and they've got sharing turned on and are mostly
unsecure, it's *HIGHLY* unlikely I'm going to be able to use their
mail client unless:

1) They've installed some sort of Remote Desktop service, and

2) Have not secured it with a username/password (and most of them
   won't let you run them that way).

Only then will I be able to use THEIR mail client to do anything.

(Well, unless I'm a REALLY devious bastard and try to shoehorn in one
of those "backdoor trojan" programs, which essentially is the same
thing as a Remote Desktop service except it would be installed by me,
not by the owner of the machine.  However, doing this is NON-trivial
and I personally wouldn't know how to do this, nor would probably most
people here.)

If they've got file sharing turned on without passwording, I might be
able to steal their files from their hard drives and figure out what
their email address is, but that's about it.  (All of this assumes
Windows operating systems - and in this case, it's about 99.99%
likely.  Anyone using a more robust operating system is also probably
smart enough to turn on router security.)

Pat, I know you love the sound of your own voice, but please: reserve
your comments for things you know something about.


Joey Lindstrom

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:07:41 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the DoDo?


Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 4:14:14 PM, Paul wrote:

> In our area, SBC is now advertising $20/month per *business* line, 
> unlimited long distance.  For our little company, that means for
> $80/mo. I can have unlimited LD on our 4 lines.  Seems too good an
> offer from the "evil empire".  Sure, it's got a one year term, but
> heck, still a good deal.  This is the grid of what they are offering
> here in Ohio:

> http://www05.sbc.com/Products_Services/Business/Catalog/1,,13--12-1-13,00.html

> Can anyone find a "gotcha" in the $20 plan? Why do they even offer
> the $50/mo plan with 3.5 cents/min.?

> To think two or three years ago we had $500+ bills every month, now
> we have sub $200 bills with ECG Telecom. I almost hate to switch
> from ECG since they are the first LD company in 10 years that has
> been decent and affordable.

I'd suggest calling up ECG Telecom and ask for a sales rep.  Not a
droid, but an actual sales rep -- you know, the type of guy that might
actually drop in on you once in a while and see how things are going.
Explain to him/her what you just said -- about how you've been very
happy with ECG but that you're quite tempted by this new offer.  After
a bit of back and forth, you may find that ECG will be willing to
match the offer (or at least come close).

It's not always about the cheapest price.  If you're getting
outstanding service, it's WORTH paying a bit more.  Only you can
decide just how MUCH more, though.  While I have no experience with
SBC, you'll find plenty of people here who will tell you absolute
horror stories about their (alleged) customer service: you should
assume worst-case scenario and that you WILL see a drop in customer
service quality.  Is the price difference worthwhile?


Joey Lindstrom

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:14:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 32

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Cingular Wireless Reports 4th-Quarter; Full Year Results (Monty Solomon)
    eBay Inc. Announces 4th-Quarter; Full Year Financial (Monty Solomon)
    QUALCOMM Announces First Quarter Fiscal 2004 Results (Monty Solomon)
    Liberty Media Now 2nd-Ranked Voter at News Corp (Monty Solomon)
    New Search Engine Taps Into Social Networks (Monty Solomon)
    Nokia Closes 2003 With Excellent Fourth Quarter (Monty Solomon)
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    Can Cingular Connect With AT&T Wireless? (Eric Friedebach)
    U.S. Judge Denies Qwest Ex-Execs Separate Trials (Eric Friedebach)
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We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we
are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because
we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands
against crime.   Geoffrey Welsh

               ===========================

See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details
and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest.  

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:54:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cingular Wireless Reports Fourth-Quarter and Full Year Results,


     Cingular Wireless Reports Fourth-Quarter and Full Year Results,
     Launches Network Expansion and Customer Service Initiatives
     - Jan 21, 2004 05:10 PM (PR Newswire)

     * Fourth-quarter net adds total 642,000 to reach more than 24
       million cellular/PCS subscribers; full-year net adds total 2.1
       million, up substantially from the previous two years.

     * Revenues grow 5.6 percent to $3.9 billion in the fourth quarter
       reaching $15.5 billion for 2003.

     * Cellular/PCS data revenues grow 85 percent versus the fourth
       quarter of 2002 -- More than 1 billion SMS messages delivered
       during the quarter.

     * Cingular's nationwide GSM/GPRS network conversion continues to
       progress ahead of schedule, now available to 93 percent of
       company's operational POPs.

ATLANTA, Jan. 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Cingular Wireless LLC, the United
States' second largest wireless company, today reported fourth-quarter
results that include continued strong subscriber growth and additional
progress in its nationwide GSM/GPRS network overlay.

For the three months ended December 31, 2003, Cingular, a joint
venture between SBC Communications (NYSE:SBC) and BellSouth
Corporation (NYSE:BLS), achieved net subscriber additions of 642,000,
bringing its nationwide cellular/PCS customer base to over 24 million.
Gross adds in the fourth quarter totaled 2.6 million, the second
highest quarter in Cingular's history -- bested only by third-quarter
2003's 2.7 million.  Churn was 2.8 percent, in line with third-quarter
2003 results.  Porting requests under wireless local number
portability rules implemented in November were below expectations and
not a significant factor in the quarter's results.

For the full year 2003, Cingular Wireless added 2.1 million
subscribers, the strongest annual net add total in the company's
history.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40261334

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:55:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: eBay Inc. Announces Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2003 Financial



SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 21, 2004--

   Company Reports Record Q4 Net Revenues of $648 Million; Achieves
   Q4 GAAP Diluted EPS of $0.21 and Pro Forma Diluted EPS of $0.24;
            Raises 2004 Net Revenue Guidance to $3 Billion

eBay Inc. (Nasdaq:EBAY)( www.ebay.com ), The World's Online
Marketplace, reported financial results for its quarter and full year
ended December 31, 2003.

eBay reported record consolidated Q4-03 net revenues of $648.4
million, up 57% year over year; record operating income of $203.1
million, up 78% year over year; and record pro forma operating income
of $218.5 million, up 65% year over year. Operating income was 31% of
net revenues and pro forma operating income was 34% of net revenues.

Consolidated net income in Q4-03 was $142.5 million, or $0.21 per
diluted share. eBay's pro forma consolidated net income, excluding
certain items, was a record $157.0 million, or $0.24 per diluted
share.

These results exceeded the company's guidance of $590 million for net
revenues, $0.19 for earnings per diluted share and $0.21 for pro forma
earnings per diluted share.

For the full year, eBay generated consolidated net revenues of $2.17
billion, a 78% increase over the $1.21 billion reported in 2002.
Consolidated net income increased 77% year over year to $441.8
million, or $0.67 per diluted share. On a pro forma basis, eBay
reported a 94% increase in consolidated net income year over year to
$494.6 million, or $0.75 per diluted share.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40259580

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:56:35 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: QUALCOMM Announces First Quarter Fiscal 2004 Results


Revenues $1.2 Billion, EPS $0.43
Revenues $1.2 Billion, EPS $0.51 Excluding QSI Segment

SAN DIEGO, Jan. 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- QUALCOMM Incorporated
(Nasdaq: QCOM) today announced its first quarter fiscal 2004 results
ended December 28, 2003.  Revenues were $1.2 billion in the first
fiscal quarter, up 37 percent sequentially and 13 percent
year-over-year.  First fiscal quarter net income was $352 million and
earnings per share were $0.43, up 21 percent and 23 percent
sequentially and up 46 percent and 43 percent year-over-year,
respectively.

Revenues excluding the QUALCOMM Strategic Initiatives (QSI) segment
were $1.2 billion in the first fiscal quarter, up 39 percent
sequentially and 13 percent year-over-year.  First fiscal quarter net
income excluding the QSI segment was $419 million and earnings per
share were $0.51, up 77 percent and 76 percent, respectively, compared
to the prior quarter, and both up 21 percent year-over-year.  Detailed
reconciliations between total QUALCOMM results and results excluding
QSI are included at the end of this news release.  Prior period
reconciliations are presented on our Investor Relations web page at
www.qualcomm.com .

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40258768

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:45:43 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Liberty Media Now 2nd-Ranked Voter at News Corp


By Kenneth Li and Sonali Paul

NEW YORK/MELBOURNE, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Liberty Media (NYSE:L) cut a
deal on Wednesday to become the second-largest voting shareholder in
News Corp (AUS:NCP) (NYSE:NWS), placing U.S. cable maven John Malone
at the centre of power in Rupert Murdoch's media empire.

Analysts said Liberty would be able to outvote the Murdoch family if
it converted further ordinary shares into voting shares and that
Malone may be positioning himself for such a move as insurance on his
friendship with the News Corp chairman.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40265753

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:39:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New Search Engine Taps Into Social Networks


By Chris Gaither, Globe Staff, 1/21/2004

SAN FRANCISCO -- Google, the most popular Internet search engine,
ranks results by polling all of cyberspace to find the most relevant
information. But a new start-up thinks your friends' opinions should
count more.

Eurekster Inc. is trying to build a business by combining two of the 
Internet's hottest trends: search and social networking.

When it launches today after several months of beta testing by
consumers, the service at Eurekster.com will let users invite their
friends by e-mail to try the search engine. The cluster of friends and
friends-of-friends then becomes a social network whose Internet search
queries shape the results of all its members.

Eurekster gets results like a normal search engine but ranks them
according to the interests you and your friends have shown through
past searches. For example, if many people in a social network use
Eurekster to seek information about the Boston Red Sox, the websites
they visit most will rise to the top in future Red Sox searches.
Eurekster also lists queries that members of your social network have
made -- although it doesn't say who made them -- and recent websites
they have visited.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/01/21/new_search_engine_taps_into_social_networks/

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:43:37 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Nokia Closes 2003 with Excellent Fourth Quarter


HELSINKI, Finland--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 22, 2004--

- Nokia Mobile Phones grows sales and delivers record profits for
Q4 and full year 2003

- Nokia Networks demonstrates good profitability in Q4 due to
strong seasonality and favorable product mix as well as impact of
restructuring measures

Highlights 4Q 2003 (all comparisons are year on year):

Net sales decreased 1% to EUR 8.8 billion (up 8% at constant
currency)

Nokia Mobile Phones net sales increased 4% to EUR 7.0 billion (up
15% at constant currency)

Nokia Mobile Phones volumes grew 20% to 55.3 million units,
leading to an estimated 38% market share

Mobile phone industry volumes were an estimated 145 million units

Excellent profitability with Nokia Mobile Phones pro forma and
reported operating margins of 24.7% and 24.4%, respectively

Color-screen phones made up half of Nokia Mobile Phones volumes

Nokia Networks sales were EUR 1.7 billion, exceeding Nokia
expectations

Nokia Networks pro forma and reported operating margins improved
to 12.1% and 2.4%, respectively

Pro forma EPS (diluted) grew 12% to EUR 0.29; reported EPS
(diluted) grew 14% to EUR 0.25

Highlights full-year 2003 (all comparisons to full-year 2002):

Net sales decreased 2% to EUR 29.5 billion (up 7% at constant
currency)

Nokia Mobile Phones net sales were up 2% to EUR 23.6 billion (up
12% at constant currency)

Nokia Mobile Phones volumes grew 18% to 179.3 million units

Total mobile phone industry volumes grew 16% to an estimated 471
million units

Nokia's estimated mobile phone market share was slightly above 38%

Nokia Mobile Phones achieved record pro forma operating margins of
23.6% (reported 23.2%)

Nokia Networks sales decreased 14% to EUR 5.6 billion with a pro
forma operating margin of - 4.2% (reported -3.9%)

Pro forma EPS (diluted) decreased 4% to EUR 0.79, reported EPS
(diluted) grew 6% to EUR 0.75

Nokia's Board of Directors will propose a dividend of EUR 0.30 per
share for 2003 (EUR 0.28 per share for 2002).

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40267511

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:44:08 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Announces Fourth-Quarter and Full-Year 2003 Earnings


     AT&T Announces Fourth-Quarter and Full-Year 2003 Earnings: Board
     of Directors Authorizes the Repurchase of Up to $3 Billion of Debt
     - Jan 22, 2004 06:50 AM (PR Newswire)

     * Fourth-quarter earnings per diluted share from continuing
       operations of $0.43; Full-year earnings per diluted share from
       continuing operations of $2.36

     * Fourth-quarter revenue of $8.1 billion; Full-year revenue of $34.5
       billion

     * Fourth-quarter operating income of $633 million; Full-year operating
       income of $3.7 billion

BEDMINSTER, N.J., Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AT&T (NYSE:T)
today announced its fourth-quarter and full-year 2003 earnings.  The
company reported income from continuing operations of $340 million, or
earnings per diluted share of $0.43, for the fourth quarter of 2003.
The company's current-quarter income from continuing operations
compares to a loss of $611 million, or a loss per diluted share of
$0.79, in the fourth quarter of 2002, which included more than $1.2
billion of asset-impairment charges.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40267560

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:45:06 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Wireless Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year Results 


     2003 Operating Free Cash Flow Exceeds $1 Billion
     - Jan 22, 2004 07:16 AM (BusinessWire)

REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 22, 2004--AT&T Wireless
(NYSE:AWE) said today its fourth quarter 2003 services revenue grew
4.4 percent from the year-ago quarter to $3.904 billion. Full-year
services revenue of $15.659 billion increased 8.1 percent over 2002,
meeting the company's guidance for the year.

For the fourth quarter, net loss per share (EPS), was ($0.03) per
share compared with ($0.05) per share in the year ago quarter.
Earnings per share for the year was $0.16, compared with a 2002 fiscal
year net loss per share of ($0.87).

Fourth quarter OIBDA (defined as operating income before depreciation
and amortization) was $890 million, a decrease of 2.6 percent over the
same period last year. The quarter-over-quarter decline in OIBDA was
driven by both planned events, including a new brand advertising
campaign, support of local number portability (LNP) and additional
restructuring charges; and unplanned events, such as higher than
expected costs tied to both LNP and a newly installed customer
relationship management software platform. These factors also
contributed to a 160 basis point quarter-over-quarter decline in OIBDA
margin, from 24.4 percent last year to 22.8 percent in this fourth
quarter. (See Attachment A)

Consistent with the company's previous guidance for growth in the mid-
to high teens, full-year OIBDA, excluding licensing costs impairments,
climbed 17.1 percent to $4.477 billion, from $3.822 billion in
2002. 2003 OIBDA margin, excluding licensing costs impairments, was
28.6 percent, a 220 basis-point increase from 2002's OIBDA margin,
excluding licensing costs impairments, of 26.4 percent.  Full year
OIBDA for 2003 was $4.394 billion, up 76.2 percent from 2002 full year
OIBDA of $2.493 billion.

Operating free cash flow for the year was $1.03 billion. (See
Attachment B)

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40267976

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:46:23 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: BellSouth Reports Fourth Quarter Earnings


          * 4 million long distance customers
          * 1.5 million high-speed Internet customers
          * 642,000 Cingular Wireless net additional customers
          * 345,000 Latin America net additional customers

ATLANTA, Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- BellSouth Corporation
(NYSE:BLS) reported earnings per share (EPS) of 43 cents in the fourth
quarter of 2003, including special charges totaling 8 cents (see
below).  This compared to reported EPS of 31 cents in the fourth
quarter of 2002, which included special charges totaling 14 cents (see
below).

For the fourth quarter, consolidated revenues increased 0.9 percent to
$5.7 billion compared to the same quarter of the previous year.  Net
income was $787 million compared to $574 million in the same quarter a
year ago.

In accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP),
BellSouth's reported consolidated revenues and consolidated operating
expenses do not include the company's 40 percent share of Cingular
Wireless.  Normalized results include BellSouth's 40 percent
proportionate share of Cingular's revenues and expenses.

Normalized EPS of 51 cents increased 13.3 percent in the fourth
quarter of 2003 compared to 45 cents in the same quarter a year ago.
Normalized revenues were $7.3 billion, an increase of 4.1 percent
versus the fourth quarter of 2002.  Normalized net income was $949
million, compared to $846 million in the same quarter a year ago.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40268361

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From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Can Cingular Connect With AT&T Wireless?
Date: 22 Jan 2004 10:13:17 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aude Lagorce, 01.21.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - As Valentine's Day approaches, even telecom operators show
they aren't immune to a little romance.

Rumors about who is wooing whom in the industry have been swirling
since late last year, but speculation became reality Jan. 20 when
second-ranked U.S. operator Cingular Wireless reportedly made a $30
billion all-cash proposal to free-spirited single AT&T Wireless.

So, would this be a marriage from hell or a perfect match? 

Neither. Not a case of love at first sight, the proposed merger sounds
more like a blind date set up by a well-meaning friend: The two
parties have things in common, but there's no guarantee of bliss.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/21/cx_al_0121awe.html

Eric Friedebach
/Mars: northern Nevada without the legal brothels/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Question for Eric: Lately you have been
using as your .sig file the commentary about Mars and northern Nevada.
I was wondering if you (or anyone else reading this) have been looking
at the visuals of Mars from the NASA web site?   They might make for
an interesting discussion here in the Digest.   PAT] 

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: U.S. judge denies Qwest ex-execs separate trials
Date: 22 Jan 2004 10:17:48 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


01.21.04

DENVER (Reuters) - A federal judge Wednesday denied requests by four
former Qwest Communications International Inc. executives to put them
on trial separately on charges that they improperly inflated the phone
company's revenues.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Robert Blackburn paves the way for
the trial to begin in federal court in Denver on Feb 17.

http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2004/01/21/rtr1221391.html


Eric Friedebach
/Mars: northern Nevada without the legal brothels/

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Ring Through to POTS
From: NJ <donotsendme@email.xyz>
Organization: Please send all replies to the NG
Date: 22 Jan 2004 11:56:17 GMT


Yes, I have my own domain :)

Check out http://spamex.com for addresses you can just throw-away. I use 
them for signing up for contests, etc ...

Gordon S. Hlavenka wrote in comp.dcom.telecom:

> BTW you can abstract your email also; buy yourself a domain someplace
> (they can be had for $10/year or less) and have the mail forwarded to
> your real email address.  That way, when you change ISPs you don't
> have to tell everybody your new email address; just update the
> forwarding with your domain registrar.  The downside to this, of
> course, is that spam follows you just as easily as people :-/
> Fortunately I find that Mozilla's bayesian filter trashes spam pretty
> effectively for me.

------------------------------

From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Date: 22 Jan 2004 08:37:22 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.30.6@telecom-digest.org>,
Stan  <stanncno1spam@noispam.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Considering this thread, I had a recent experience and I ask the group
> for advice.

> While setting up my new iPaq, I tried to access the wireless router in
> my house in order to download content from the internet without having
> to place the device in its docking cradle. Granted, it's not a feature
> that I would use while at home, but I was playing.

> I have WEP enabled on my network, and no amount of combinations of the
> iPaq menu selections and entering my key manually would permit me
> access. I'm not really concerned about that right now.

> While playing with the options, I found that three of my neighbors
> apparently have wireless networks in their houses as well. This is not
> an apartment building, this is a subdivision in a former
> cornfield. Plenty of space between houses.

> While apparently one of my neighbors read the manual and set up some
> security, the other two networks were named "Linksys" and
> "Netgear". It looks like someone got some new toys for Christmas and
> didn't bother to change one setting out of the box. Without any effort
> at all (and I mean really NO effort ... automatic wireless is an
> option on the iPaq), I accessed Mr. Netgear's broadband connection and
> started surfing the web, using Internet Explorer built into the
> device.

> So now, the 'karma question' comes into play. Do I find out which of
> my neighbors is Mr. (or Mrs.) Netgear and Mr. Linksys and tell them to
> please turn on some security before someone comes along and downloads
> all their birthday party pictures? If I was going to be a nice
> neighbor and do that, what stops me from getting hit with the
> question, "Well now, what were you doing accessing my network?"

> So I leave it to the TD reader. How would you approach this dicey
> situation?

I would try to locate them and inform them of the exposure.  If your
portable has a way to see the signal strength of the signal, you can
walk around the 'hood and see which house the signal is strongest
near.

Once informed, if they choose not to fix it,  then its their problem.

And if they ask "what were you doing accessing my network?", just
reply that you weren't, but you spotted theirs while setting yours up.
Its for just this reason that my rather small network is all wired
with no wireless.


Rich Greenberg Work: Rich.Greenberg atsign worldspan.com  + 1 770 563 6656
N6LRT   Marietta, GA, USA   Play: richgr atsign panix.com + 1 770 321 6507
Eastern time zone.   I speak for myself & my dogs only.  VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val(Chinook,CGC,TT), Red & Shasta(Husky,(RIP))     Owner:Chinook-L
Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

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From: Andrew Bell <withheld at readers request>
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:44:22 -0500


Pat - please delete my email address if you post this.

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:01:04 -0700 Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
replied to TELECOM Digest Editor's Note on Re: Wireless Home Networks:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well my suggestion is that if you
>> find out who they are that you send them an *unsigned, anonymous*
>> email telling them about it. In fact if you can get into NetGear or
>> Linksys you can probably send them email in their own names using
>> their mail client.

> That's a rather large assumption, Pat.  Even if I find somebody's
> unprotected network, and they've got sharing turned on and are mostly
> unsecure, it's *HIGHLY* unlikely I'm going to be able to use their
> mail client unless:

> 1) They've installed some sort of Remote Desktop service, and

> 2) Have not secured it with a username/password (and most of them
>    won't let you run them that way).

> Only then will I be able to use THEIR mail client to do anything.

> (Well, unless I'm a REALLY devious bastard and try to shoehorn in one
> of those "backdoor trojan" programs, which essentially is the same
> thing as a Remote Desktop service except it would be installed by me,
> not by the owner of the machine.  However, doing this is NON-trivial
> and I personally wouldn't know how to do this, nor would probably most
> people here.)

A workable assumption here is that someone uninformed enough to run an
access point in fully default mode is ALSO too uninformed to have set
any passwords or applied any patches to their PC.  It is, in fact,
trivial to load such a trojan in that environment.

> If they've got file sharing turned on without passwording, I might be
> able to steal their files from their hard drives and figure out what
> their email address is, but that's about it.  (All of this assumes
> Windows operating systems - and in this case, it's about 99.99%
> likely.  Anyone using a more robust operating system is also probably
> smart enough to turn on router security.)

Like I said ...

> Pat, I know you love the sound of your own voice, but please: 

Wow.  Pot, meet kettle.

> reserve your comments for things you know something about.

Joey, that comment was entirely uncalled for.  Pat was a bit off on
the details, since it's not a matter of getting into the WAP itself
that is required, but he quite accurately pointed out the potential to
take over someone's mail client through an unprotected network access.


Andrew


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: As far as using defaults is concerned,
I have never yet changed from using the Windows default name of WORKGROUP 
as the group name for my computers (where 'Network Neighborhood' looks
at the machines close around it.) I do not know if that is a bad thing
or not, but my Canadian consultant tells me since I have a Linksys
firewall up and running 'not to worry about it'. Still, the firewall
has a couple leaks in it sometimes, where unwelcome visitors have
slipped through ports that were open trying to get into my files, even
though (at the time of their arrival) Zone Alarm told me visitors had
arrived and were attempting unsuccessfully to loot my files. That has
happened twice, both times when I was chatting on Yahoo Messenger. I
don't really know what to do. Both times, I told the persons to get
away from the computer, they both apologized profusely of course, and
I did not see them again, or have I?  PAT] 

------------------------------

From: dold@AmericaXsX.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:21:25 UTC
Organization: a2i network


Kilo Delta One Sierra <kd1s@aol.comremvthis> wrote:

> One nice thing about AOL is that any Time/Warner content is free,
> stuff like Time and a few other online magazines that are normally
> subsciption only. But once I get the DSL installed I'll just ditch it.

Don't ditch it.  Use the "bring your own provider" option.  Connecting
to AOL via some other internet connection has always been faster than
AOL dialup.  It's easy to do, just drop down the "location" box on the
signon screen and select TCP.  Save the AOL account for worldwide
dialups, if you travel.


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

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From: totojepast@atlas.cz (totojepast)
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Date: 22 Jan 2004 08:54:02 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


>> Recently I've started getting a lot of spam (well, not a lot, but
>> perhaps a half-dozen messages a day) signed by "Habeas.com."  Habeas'
>> website advertises that it is "sender warranted email," and that one
>> of the main uses of the website is deliver spam-free e-mail.

> Yes, Habeas is real, and someone has been sending out buckets of spam
> for bogus drugs with equally bogus Habeas marks.

> They are, to put it mildly, not happy about it.  In the short run
> they're adding every address sending forged Habeas spam to their
> DNSBL, which is not a bad one to use to block spam.  In the longer run
> they're trying to figure out who's behind the spam, which will be
> tricky since it's all sent through hijacked PCs and points back to a
> web site in China.  They've sued people before for misusing their mark
> and if they can figure out who to sue, they will most certainly sue
> this one.

Does anybody know why Anne P. Mitchell was ousted from Habeas.com?

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Isn't Anne Mitchell involved with one
of the netizen organizations fighting spam?  Just a guess, but maybe
she got on their nerves.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:12:21 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:14:59 -0600, Gordon S. Hlavenka
<nospam@crashelectronics.com> wrote:

> When I was in high school, I knew that xxx-9979 (where xxx was any
> local exchange) was some kind of test number that would _always_
> return a busy signal.  We students had to fill out cards each year
> containing, among other things, our home phone number.  I always put
> down a 9979 number.  I know it saved me at least once, because I was
> sent up for some offense and the dean gave up dialing after about half
> an hour and told me to go back to class :-)

In New England New England Tel/NYNEX/Verizon most big city exchanges
you could end with 9991 and receive busy.  Used to be that calling
many exchanges with 9992 produced re-order as well.  In that area for
S-X-S exchanges if you dialed NXX-XX99 you would also get busy-back as
well.  Of course that all went away when the exchanges were converted
to ESS.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:40:44 -0700
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Is my auto-ack Working or Not?


In private correspondence with a Digest reader yesterday, I noted
to him that a recent message arrived here from him which was
totally mangled. The subject line was completely mangled, and
unreadable; the message contents were readable and one could guess
at what was being said. I manually reconstructed it so it could be
used in the Digest, reasonably well, I think. I do that when it is
needed, rather than just dump the message. I wrote back to him and 
and said what I had found and what I had done.

TDE> The auto-ack should have shown you the mess that the one message
TDE> arrived in. You are damn lucky I even found it; most of what
TDE> like that is just spam, and I do not read it.

Then he responded to me this morning:

> As others have mentioned to you, the auto-ack no longer works. 

No, others have not mentioned that to me.

> I just checked with a friend of mine, who got a copy of the message
> you're referring to - both were sent at the same time (he was BCC'd).
> He reports no mangling of subject line or anything else.

> As I've told you before, there is something seriously wrong with your
> mail setup.  Your much-heralded auto-ack hasn't worked in months, and
> if something is mangling subject lines, it's happening at your end,
> not the sending end.  Either the server at massis or Levine's server
> is doing the mangling.

Well no, I have not been told the auto-ack is broken once again. Not
that it couldn't be, just that I have not been told if it is. And
most of the legitimate mail I get here arrives just fine. Levine's 
server only comes into play when mail is addressed to @telecom-digest.org
and not when mail is addressed to @massis.lcs.mit.edu. If mail coming
through from anywhere is addressed to the former address, then John
Levine's server sees it first and forwards it here. Mail from anywhere
addressed to the latter address just comes here directly; John's 
server has nothing to do with it. But when mail gets here (either
direct to massis or forwarded/remailed via John [telecom-digest.org])
it then goes through spam assassin first. Mail which does meet my
qualifications (and I keep the point score level sort of low) then
goes on to the auto-ack. That which does not meet my qualifications
goes unanswered (with no auto-ack) into the spam file. It is very 
rare that spam assassin makes a wrong decision. More often than not,
the spam gets an auto-ack and goes into my legitmate file, since I
would rather be imposed upon and have to toss spam out manually than
to accidentally miss a legitimate letter of inquiry, etc. I always
scan (at least in a cursory way) what went to the spam file before
I flush it out. 

Your letter in question went through the routine into the legitimate
file, but with a subject line showing all the criteria of spam or
otherwise junk mail. Because *your name* and site showed up in a
legible way, I ignored the subject line which was illegible gibberish,
and chose to read it anyway. I really feel it must have been the
spam filtering mechanism *on your end* which chose to dump out the
auto-ack, but who knows.  


To all readers: we are fighting a losing battle here I think. Please
consider using this criteria: If you legitimatly write me and (1) do
not recieve an auto-ack and (2) see your message printed in the Digest
same day or next day [unless you asked it to be non-pub] *then* under
those conditions please resubmit your message to me but include a line
at the top saying 'I did not recieve an auto-ack earlier for
this'. Somehow try to let me know if your legitimate message got
tossed. (I'll then either reconstruct it or ask you to send it again
to a different email address.) Somehow try to let me know if you have
been in the past getting auto-acks and they suddenly stopped arriving,
etc.

Maybe someday, somehow, the intelligent folks of the net who work
to 'kill spam' will find a way to deal with all this.  But if my
auto-ack thing is not working correctly, I would like to hear from
more than just one person saying that.    

PAT

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    eCom.com Inc. Announces Acquisition Of Freedom 4 Wireless Inc. (Eworld)
    Re: All-Zeros Numbers (Julian Thomas)
    Re: America's Opinion of AOL (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
    What Does COR on a Definity's Trunk Do? (Rod)
    Re: Using Calling Card to Dial Internet Access From Hotel (Scott Dorsey)
    Identity Theft, Online Fraud on the Rise - U.S. FTC (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Habeus.com and Spam (John Levine)
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    Re: Wireless Home Networks (John Mayson)

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From: Eworldwire <info@eworldwire.com>
Subject: eCom.com Inc. Announces Acquisition Of Freedom 4 Wireless Inc.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:20:34 -0500


eCom eCom.com Inc. Announces Acquisition Of Freedom 4
Wireless Inc. Is Completed By MyZipSoft Inc.
For Immediate Release

PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla./EWORLDWIRE/Jan. 22, 2004 --- eCom eCom.com,
Inc. (OTCBB: ECEC) today announced the acquisition of Freedom 4
Wireless by MyZipSoft, Inc. has been completed. MyZipSoft, Inc. is a
wholly owned subsidiary of eCom eCom.com, Inc. ("eCom") MyZipSoft,
Inc.  acquired all of the assets of Freedom 4 Wireless, Inc. a wholly
owned subsidiary of American Capital Holdings, Inc.
www.freedom4wireless.com. The name of MyZipSoft, Inc. was changed to
Freedom 4 Wireless, Inc.

Terms of the acquisition are: shareholders of record at the close of
business (4:00 p.m.) on February 23, 2004 of eCom eCom.com,
Inc. common stock will be issued one (1) share of Freedom 4 Wireless,
Inc. for every twenty (20) shares of eCom. For further clarification
purposes, each eCom eCom shareholder will still maintain their
existing share ownership of eCom eCom on the aforementioned February
23, 2004 shareholder of record date.

David Panaia stated, "We are continuing with our commitment set forth
in December to bring additional shareholder value to our
company. Freedom 4 Wireless will change the landscape of wireless
technology for years to come. I encourage every shareholder to visit
www.freedom4wireless.com and see what we have accomplished.  Freedom 4
Wireless has grown from a research development company to a company
whose products are ready for market."

Barney A. Richmond Chairman of American Capital Holdings, Inc. stated;
"Freedom 4 Wireless is one of our brightest stars three (3) years in
the making. Our core technology is the Fourth Generation (4G) of
wireless mobility. It is the first true ad hoc peer to peer networking
system. It is the only system available today that supports real-time
user applications at highway speeds. It is available at a reasonable
price and can be installed to serve mobile users for about 1/10th the
cost of 3G networks at comparable capacity. F4W's system is based on
Internet Protocol: Any application that is written to run on an
IP-compatible host will run across F4W's network. That means that 99%
of applications need no modification."

About Freedom 4 Wireless, Inc. 

Freedom 4 Wireless (F4W) is a provider of 4th Generation Mobile
Broadband Wireless Services and Products. F4W's unique 4G mobile
broadband wireless system provides data, video, audio, and voice
services to subscribers on the move, at highway speeds.

F4W generates revenue from the selling of subscriber services,
vertical product sales equipment sales and contracting to deploy
turnkey wide area network wireless solutions. F4W is building a
national high speed mobile broadband wireless network as well as
building tactical networks for Homeland Security and Law Enforcement
agencies. F4W's services and products fall into three broad
categories. Freedom 4 Emergency Alert Display Services(TM), Freedom 4
Mobile Services(TM) and Freedom 4 Smart Equipment Services(TM). F4W's
focus is on the public safety market in 2004 and 2005, by in 2006 F4W
believes that the demand for mobile broadband services from business
customers will begin to generate significant incremental revenue from
the network infrastructures that originally were deployed to provide
services to the Public Safety Market.

Freedom 4 Emergency Alert Display Services(TM) networks are networks
of plasma and LCD displays that provide Emergency Alert System (EAS)
and Community Alert System(TM) (CAS) messaging to the public in times
of community crisis and distress. Such services will allow both
federal and local governmental authorities to communicate with the
public about imminent and immediate events that may require a quick
response to save lives or improve public well-being.  Built into these
displays are 2-way video and voice capability so that an individuals
and first responders in a crisis can communicate with emergency
organizations.

Freedom 4 Mobile Services(TM) and Freedom 4 Smart Equipment
Services(TM) are offered through a unique mobile broadband wireless
network. It is the first affordable mobile broadband wireless system,
and it will offer data, voice, and media services. It will be used to
provide mobile, broadband, wireless services to the Department of
Homeland Service, local governments (police, fire/rescue, code
enforcement, permitting, and traffic management), state departments of
transportation (to meet intelligent transportation system needs),
health care institutions (mobile telemedicine), corporate enterprises,
small businesses, and consumers.

The vision of Freedom 4 Wireless is to provide broadband wired and
wireless network services to enhance the safety and well-being of the
public and to enable government agencies to increase their
effectiveness and efficiency.  F4W will do so through Freedom 4
Emergency Display Services, Mobile Services, and Smart Equipment
Services. By 2007, Freedom Zone Networks envisions its initial local
and regional service networks merging with one another to become a
national network capable of delivering nationally coordinated, but
location specific public safety information relevant to the local
community and providing government agencies with the mobile broadband
wireless communications capability that they so badly need.

For additional information contact: 
info@freedom4wireless.com or call media relations for F4W @
1-866-823-5252 
Website: www.freedom4wireless 

eCom eCom.com, Inc. 
David J. Panaia 
561/622-4395 
djp@ecomecom.net 
www.ecomecom.net 

   HTML: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/wr/012204/2084.htm
   PDF: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/pdf/012204/2084.pdf
   ONLINE NEWSROOM: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/2093.htm
   LOGO: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/2093.htm

CONTACT:
Harry Timmons
American Capital Holdings, Inc.
14 East Washington Street
Suite 306
Orlando, FL 32801
PHONE. 4076505252
FAX. 4076505253
EMAIL: htimmons@achinc.net
http://www.achinc.net

Copyright 2003 Eworldwire, All rights reserved.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:06:38 -0500
From: Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net>
Subject: Re: All-Zeros Numbers


In <1074803881.1375.96301.m12@yahoogroups.com>, on 01/22/04 at 08:38
PM, telecom-news@yahoogroups.com typed:

MANY years ago, I remember a squib in some French newspaper (I was on
a trip there at the time) about someone (some pr guy or something like
that) who had a number of the form BAL 00 01 (back when letters were
still being used) - the joke was to the effect that "one less number,
and he wouldn't have a telephone".
 

Julian Thomas:   jt@jt-mj.net    http://jt-mj.net
In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State!
Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc  http://www.possi.org

 -- --

If it screams, it's not food...  Yet.

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From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 22 Jan 2004 22:08:13 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL



> Don't ditch it.  Use the "bring your own provider" option.  Connecting
> to AOL via some other internet connection has always been faster than
> AOL dialup.  It's easy to do, just drop down the "location" box on the
> signon screen and select TCP.  Save the AOL account for worldwide
> dialups, if you travel.

But that's the thing -- I don't want to pay for it. So I'll ditch it
anyway.  Thanks though.

------------------------------

From: wolfing1@yahoo.com (Rod)
Subject: What Does COR on a Definity's Trunk Do?
Date:  22 Jan 2004 12:45:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I changed a station's COR to not being able to call a certain trunk's
COR (so they always use a particular trunk when making long distance
calls, instead of the 'main one'.  Problem is, it's still going thru,
ignoring what I did.  Basically, it looks like this:

 Trunk 1 (main one)   COR 20
 Trunk 2 (aux)        COR 30

 ARS for 12125555555:
 1 - Trunk 1   FRL 1
 2 - Trunk 2   FRL 0   

Station info:  FRL 0  COR 15

 COR 15:  set up so it can't call COR 20

Result:  if I call 12125555555 from the station, it doesn't use Trunk
1 because of the FRL being too low, so it tries to Trunk 2.  My idea
is that it shouldn't work because of the station's COR 15 says it
can't call COR 30, but it does!

So, what's the deal?  I may have been a little confusing in my
explanation, but hopefully you got the idea.

Thanks.

------------------------------

From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Using Calling Card to Dial Internet Access From Hotel?
Date: 22 Jan 2004 16:24:22 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Joe Blo <techman41973@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I tried using my laptop to dial my local internet connection telephone
> number via my calling card from my hotel room. It did not work, even
> though I perfected the pauses and touch tone codes to where the
> laptop got through and started connecting. However no connection could
> be established. If I dialed direct from the hotel long distance, this
> number worked fine (@ a 1.50 per minute) Could it be that some calling
> cards (my Walmart & AT&T branded) could degrade the signal through its
> signal path significantly to cause problems?  

Almost certainly.  The calling cards I normally get for overseas calls
(Carte Oro from the local Latin bodega) seem to use VoIP lines.  Audio
quality varies from excellent to quite spotty depending on the time of
day, but I would seriously doubt that a modem would work at all.
Anything that employs any sort of lossy compression scheme isn't going
to work with a modem (although some long distance providers that use
lossy compression have some additional gadgetry to demodulate your
modem connection, send the baseband data, and then run it through
another mode on the other end).

--scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:35:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Identity Theft, Online Fraud on the Rise - U.S. FTC


WASHINGTON, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Identity theft and fraud cost Americans
at least $437 million last year as scam artists made themselves at
home on the Internet, according to federal statistics released on
Thursday.

The Federal Trade Commission said it received more than half a million
consumer complaints in 2003 as scam artists financed their spending
sprees with other people's credit cards and hucksters sold nonexistent
products through online auction sites like eBay Inc (NASDAQ:EBAY).

Identity theft -- the practice of running up bills or committing
crimes in someone else's name -- topped the list with 215,000
complaints, up 33 percent from the previous year.

Internet-related fraud accounted for more than half of the remaining
complaints as scammers found victims through Web sites or "spam"
e-mail, according to an FTC report.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40272544

------------------------------

From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
In-Reply-To: <telecom23.32.16@telecom-digest.org>
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Does anybody know why Anne P. Mitchell was ousted from Habeas.com?

Differences with the owners, nothing unusual in a startup.  (I've been
through at least three CEO ejections in other tech startups over the
years.)  I'm on Habeas' nearly unpaid advisory board and I can report
that the new management is well aware that their reputation is on the
line in the current spam blast.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Isn't Anne Mitchell involved with one
> of the netizen organizations fighting spam?

Yes.  See www.isipp.org.

Regards,

John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl
Sewer Commissioner
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Phantom DSL Reprised
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:04:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Some few weeks ago, there was a discussion in this group about DSL
being available or not available.  One poster, I forget who, claimed
that he was told that DSL was not available, but that the restaurant
downstairs had DSL and it was in the same CO, and the same cable (and
possibly even the same drop).

I went to dslreports.com to also find out that my CO was wired for
DSL, although I'm at near the distance limit, being 11,000 feet from
the CO.

I called Verizon.  Droid said no, not available, but she would put in
the order anyway in case her data was old.  OK, at least she was
trying to help.  A week later, Email that DSL is NOT available, just
like the web site says.

Check with DSL reports again.  Yep, available.  Two other outfits
listed as providing it.  Earthlink and COVAD.  Try to call Earthlink
and get a recording that "if you are under 18 you must hang up now!".
(1-800-EARTHLINK, which I translated to 1-800-327-4546, but later
realized that it should have been 327-8454), so I went to their web
site.

Their web site also says that DSL not available for my phone number.
Finally call COVAD.  Get a real person.  "No sir, residential DSL is
not available from that CO."

Ears perk!  ***RESIDENTIAL***(?) DSL!  There's a difference between
residential DSL and business DSL, and it's the price they can charge
for it!

"Yes, sir.  We can provide business DSL at $159.95 per month."

Out of my league, if I was running a business out of here, I might
consider it, but I'm not, so I thanked the person and hung up.

As I backtracked through the web pages I had visited, all of them had
a seemingly innucuous set of buttons, "business" vs. "residential."  I
didn't try the experiment, but I suspect that if I clicked "business"
it would have shown that DSL was available, at a steep price.

So, it seems, the providers are hoarding the DSL circuits in my CO so
they can milk the businesses for $160 bucks a month before offering it
to residential customers (going rate about $30 per month).  High speed
access through the cable company is about $50.00 per month.

Unless there are regulations against this, I guess I'm SOL (and so is
the original poster.)

--
"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's a lot like the routine I got
 from SW Bell. I originally called up and ordered DSL and a reader
here sent me a check payable to the Telephone Company for a year's
worth of service so I could test drive it. (Thanks once again, name
not mentioned here, I have not forgotten your kindness!)  And it
wasn't bad at first until the spam started rolling in, and it took me
so long to wade through the voicemail menus and the holding time queue
to reach someone who could help with anything. 

But then one day by accident (I am sure it had to be by accident) a
promotional mailing and a CD to the former owner of my telephone
number. "Try our DSL along with a boatload of other goodies for free
if you will try our service for just $29 per month. They were offering
Yahoo/DSL at that low price. I guess Yahoo bought the telephone
company or the other way around.  Anyway, I suggested to them "if you
can afford to give DSL for $29 per month then you *should* give it for
that, along with the free CDs, gift cards, free installs and other
goodies. You are charging me almost twice that much, and I sent you a
check for a year's service in advance." The lady said to me, "DSL is
not a tariffed offering. We can do as we please with that, subject to
technical limitations."   I guess that's right. What the market will
bear and all that rot ... Then they tried to say to me one day if I
had a Cingular Wireless phone (which I do) I could get another
reduction in the overall bill each month which was just another lie. 

Then when I switched my phone to Prairie Stream, Southwestern Bell
tried to hold my DSL line hostage. Like love and marriage and the
horse and carriage you can't have DSL without our phone service. Take
us and love it or at least live with it. So I dumped DSL as well and
went with cable modem through Cable One. 

I think you should go ahead and press the button to order 'business
DSL' service, then when the first bill shows up tell them you really
meant to order residential service, and make them explain to you what
makes 'business DSL' different than any regular DSL service.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:09:48 CST
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


> For most people, this will be enough.  However, there are known
> weaknesses in WEP, and a VERY determined hacker (including law
> enforcement types) might POSSIBLY be able to determine your keys and
> snoop on your traffic.  In practice, on a typical home network, this
> will be extremely difficult (not enough packets flying around to build
> a large enough statistical universe), but you should be aware of it.

Here are some more tips.

Keep your power turned low.  I kept mine at 12.5%.  Worked fine for
the PCs in the house, but was useless for my PDA.  I had to up the
power to 50%.  Not only will you reduce 2.4 GHz "pollution" you'll
make your AP harder to see.

Use MAC address filtering.  Sure, it's possible to spoof a MAC address,
but only a very determined hacker could pull it off.

Restrict your IP addresses.  I will only issue so many and most of the
time they're all assigned.

And lastly, turn off everything when not in use.

I'm reminded of the story of the two campers who encounter a bear.  One
laces up running shoes and points out he doesn't have to outrun the bear
but the other camper.  Most of the APs in my neighborhood are wide open.
A spammer/pornographer/etc. will use their networks rather than go to all
sorts of trouble to crack into mine.

And before I get a lot of angry emails:

I might have used the term "hacker" or "hacking" in this posting
concerning wireless home network security.  Yes, I do know the
difference between a "hacker" and a "criminal with a computer".  I was
using those terms loosely, but do understand why using the term
"hacker" in that context is not correct.

> So now, the 'karma question' comes into play. Do I find out which of
> my neighbors is Mr. (or Mrs.) Netgear and Mr. Linksys and tell them to
> please turn on some security before someone comes along and downloads
> all their birthday party pictures? If I was going to be a nice
> neighbor and do that, what stops me from getting hit with the
> question, "Well now, what were you doing accessing my network?"

> So I leave it to the TD reader. How would you approach this dicey
> situation?

If it were a friend I'd tell them, otherwise I keep my mouth shut.  A lot
of people are technologically ignorant and will probably accuse me of
"hacking".  Try to do someone a favor ...


John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    For Those in the Fast Lane, MSN Tries to Smooth the Way (Monty Solomon)
    The Electronic Verification Is in the Mail (Monty Solomon)
    Google Spawns Social Networking Service (Monty Solomon)
    Microsoft Quarterly Revenue Tops $10 Billion (Monty Solomon)
    Town Uses Website List to Shame Scofflaws (Monty Solomon)
    TI Technology Makes 802.11a/g Affordable for Consumers (Monty Solomon)
    One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions plus Vonage? (howard)
    Re: Habeas.com and Spam? (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:32:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: For Those in the Fast Lane, MSN Tries to Smooth the Way


By WILSON ROTHMAN

THE assumption of many providers of high-speed Internet service today
is that you are a power user; that is, you don't need any help. You
manage your e-mail with a free service like Hotmail or Yahoo , or know
how to set up a POP3 account in Outlook.

You already have software to protect you from hackers, viruses and
spyware. You have a working knowledge of Photoshop (or at least
Photoshop Elements) and you share pictures with family members at
Ofoto. Google is your research hub, you download movie trailers at
QuickTime.com, and you may even subscribe to a streaming music service
like Rhapsody. You're a Net veteran, and all you require of your
service provider is an always-on connection to a fat Internet
pipeline.

If you don't feel all that savvy, AOL and MSN sympathize with you.
They suggest that although you have graduated to broadband, you might
still need the full online-service software package you used in your
dial-up days. Both companies have introduced software-and-service
packages known as "bring your own access" - geared mainly toward
Windows users, and offered at a lower monthly fee than their dial-up
plans -- to complement high-speed Internet access.

 ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/technology/22stat.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:49:36 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Electronic Verification Is in the Mail


By MARK GLASSMAN
January 22, 2004

ENSURING the integrity of a Microsoft Word document can be tricky. 
Hackers and pranksters have made a hobby of exposing security flaws 
in the software, often altering what appear to be protected files. 
But a new service shores up security with an adage that is at once 
novel and old-fashioned: let the post office handle it.

The Postal Service, Microsoft and a technology company called 
Authentidate have developed a system called Electronic Postmark for 
verifying that a document's content is the same as when a user saved 
it. The service, introduced in October, is in some ways more a notary 
public's stamp than a postmark, intended particularly for those 
affixing their electronic signatures to documents relayed online.

After downloading a free add-on program, or plug-in, for Word, a user
can purchase Electronic Postmarks and insert them into any Word
document. The plug-in is compatible with Word XP and Word 2003. Once
the document is signed, the Postmark locks it down, preventing further
changes within Word.

 ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/technology/circuits/22post.html

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:51:31 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Google Spawns Social Networking Service


By Stefanie Olsen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Google tip-toed into the hot market of online social networks with 
the quiet launch of Orkut.com on Thursday.

The search company, which is expected to go public this year, is
flexing its power with its Internet fans by constantly offering new
services, including comparison shopping and news search. Orkut could
be the clearest signal that Google's aspirations don't end with
search.


http://news.com.com/2100-1026-5146006.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:31:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Quarterly Revenue Tops $10 Billion


Launch of Office 2003 and Strength in PC Market Fuels Demand for Desktop
Software

REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Microsoft Corp.
(Nasdaq: MSFT) today announced record revenue of $10.15 billion for
the quarter ended Dec. 31, 2003, a 19% increase over $8.54 billion in
the prior year. Operating income for the second quarter was $1.48
billion, compared to $2.23 billion in the prior year. Net income and
diluted earnings per share for the second quarter were $1.55 billion
and $0.14 per share. These results include stock based compensation
expense of $2.17 billion (after-tax) or $0.20 per share, of which
$1.48 billion (after-tax) or $0.14 per share related to the completion
of the employee Stock Option Transfer Program. For the previous year,
net income and earnings per share for the second quarter were $1.87
billion and $0.17 per share, including stock based compensation
expense of $709 million (after-tax) or $0.07 per share, a $282 million
(after-tax) or $0.03 per share charge for investment impairments, a
$126 million or $0.01 per share tax benefit from the reversal of
previously accrued taxes, and $141 million (after-tax) or $0.01 per
share legal charge related to the state antitrust and unfair
competition class action lawsuits.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40276969

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:43:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Town Uses Website List to Shame Scofflaws


By Mark Pothier, Globe Staff, 1/21/2004

Sabina Maziarz knew she would pay a penalty when a $400 check she
wrote in November to the Sharon School Department bounced, but did not
realize her name and address would be posted on the Internet for all
to see.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2004/01/21/town_uses_website_list_to_shame_scofflaws/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think they should take care doing
this. The Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (signed into law
during President Carter's administration *flatly prohibits* the
publication of debts. You are allowed to contact the person you claim
is the debtor, but you are not permitted to contact any third parties
for the purpose of collection. Skip tracers/bill collectors, for
example when calling me to find out your whereabouts, can ask me how
to locate you if I know, but they are *not* permitted to say WHY they
want to contact me other than 'I have some personal business I need
to speak with him about.' I am not permitted (if I were licensed in
the practice of debt collection) to run a printed announcement that
you owe me X dollars on account of a check that bounced for example.

One exception later passed was based on a decision that social good
takes precedence. For example, the landlord of an apartment building
with a master utility meter (gas or water as an example) becomes late
in paying his utility bill, and the gas service is scheduled for
cut off. Its obviously not the tenants' fault, yet they might well
suffer from the cutoff of utilities. So the utility companies *are*
permitted to 'post a building' (make a public announcement of cutoff)
to enable, under the law, tenants to withhold their rent money for
the purpose of paying the money for rent directly to the utility
company. I do not *think* there are any exceptions made for bounced
checks to municipalities, etc. In any event, I would be leary of 
making a public posting of someone with a bounced check for collection
purposes.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:50:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TI Technology Makes 802.11a/g Affordable for Consumers


wONE(TM) Universal Router Technology Delivers Optimal Solution for
                     Multimedia Home Networking

DALLAS, Jan. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Texas Instruments
Incorporated (NYSE:TXN) (TI) today unveiled wONE, a universal router
software technology that delivers simultaneous 802.11g and 802.11a
operation from a single chipset (CPU, MAC, baseband and RF). Until
now, most dual-band routers and access points (APs) were too expensive
for mass consumer adoption since they required two chipsets in order
to maintain simultaneous operation. With TI's wONE software,
manufacturers can offer dual-band routers at an affordable price to
the consumer market, making universal connectivity of 802.11a, 802.11g
and 802.11b in the home a reality. This all-in-one router solution
offers extreme flexibility and versatility to protect the end-users'
existing investments of 802.11b or 802.11g devices while
technology-proofing future network applications using 802.11a. (See
http://www.ti.com/wone .)

Together with TI's 802.11 silicon solutions, wONE allows manufacturers
to deliver the ideal router for multimedia home networking,
telecommuters, small business offices and small location hotspots. For
example, in a single household, the son can watch a streaming video
from an 802.11a-enabled media center or personal video recorder (PVR),
while the daughter uses an 802.11b PDA to instant message friends, and
at the same time Mom or Dad is using an 802.11g embedded mini-PCI card
in a laptop to check e-mails over the VPN.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401051700_PRN__DAM009A

------------------------------

From: cscapella@yahoo.com (howard)
Subject: One phone line and multiple extensions + vonage?
Date: 22 Jan 2004 19:05:59 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello everyone,

I am about to start up a new office in which I plan on having about 4
phones, possibly more in the future.  My question is: Is it possible
to have only 1 phone line that can go to any extension and handle
multiple incoming or outgoing calls simultaneously and integrate with
Vonage?

Obviously I want to reduce my local phone company expenses.  Would I
be using a phone system like the ATT 4-Line KSU-less phone system to
tie it all together?

Thanks for you help,

Howard

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 03:31:04 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Habeas.com and Spam?
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> years.)  I'm on Habeas' nearly unpaid advisory board and I can report
> that the new management is well aware that their reputation is on the
> line in the current spam blast.

"on the line" is putting it mildly.  I had never heard of Habeas until
I started getting spam with their headers.  Now my only connection
with them is that I block allow anything with their headers.

-Joel

------------------------------

From: Gary Breuckman <puma@catbox.com>
Subject: Re: Phantom DSL Reprised
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:16:31 -0600
Organization: Puma's Lair - catbox.com


In article <telecom23.33.8@telecom-digest.org>, Nick Landsberg
<hukolau@att.net> wrote:

> Their web site also says that DSL not available for my phone number.
> Finally call COVAD.  Get a real person.  "No sir, residential DSL is not
> available from that CO."

> Ears perk!  ***RESIDENTIAL***(?) DSL!  There's a difference between
> residential DSL and business DSL, and it's the price they can charge for
> it!

> "Yes, sir.  We can provide business DSL at $159.95 per month."

> Out of my league, if I was running a business out of here, I might
> consider it, but I'm not, so I thanked the person and hung up.

> As I backtracked through the web pages I had visited, all of them had a
> seemingly innucuous set of buttons, "business" vs. "residential."  I
> didn't try the experiment, but I suspect that if I clicked "business" it
> would have shown that DSL was available, at a steep price.

> So, it seems, the providers are hoarding the DSL circuits in my CO so
> they can milk the businesses for $160 bucks a month before offering it
> to residential customers (going rate about $30 per month).  High speed
> access through the cable company is about $50.00 per month.

COVAD, at least here, offers business services only.  The difference
is that the business DSL is usually symmetric (SDSL) for example
768/768, as opposed to the typical telco residential DSL that might be
128/700 or 256/700.  Also, the 'business DSL' usually has static IP
addresses, perhaps a block of 8 (5 usable) at that price.

The assumption (perhaps not always valid) is that a business wants to 
run a server or other needs (like PCANYWERE or VPN) where they 
need static IP's, and need higher outgoing speeds than the usual
web-browsing residential user.

COVAD also obtains a separate pair for the DSL, unlike the telco
DSL which usually piggybacks on a voice circuit, which might help 
with the distance limitations.

I'm not saying that justifies the higher price, but at least part of it,
and explains it.


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:

> I think you should go ahead and press the button to order 'business DSL'
> service, then when the first bill shows up tell them you really meant to
> order residential service, and make them explain to you what makes
> 'business DSL' different than any regular DSL service.  PAT]

Well, as I said there are differences.   If I was the provider and you
did that, I would say "fine, we'll call it residential for you.  The
price is the same, and you've already signed the 3-year contract ..."


-- Gary Breuckman

------------------------------

From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:21:48 -0500


In article <telecom23.31.13@telecom-digest.org>, joey@telussucks.info 
says:

> Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 4:14:14 PM, editor wrote:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well my suggestion is that if you
>> find out who they are that you send them an *unsigned, anonymous*
>> email telling them about it. In fact if you can get into NetGear or
>> Linksys you can probably send them email in their own names using
>> their mail client.

> That's a rather large assumption, Pat.  Even if I find somebody's
> unprotected network, and they've got sharing turned on and are mostly
> unsecure, it's *HIGHLY* unlikely I'm going to be able to use their
> mail client unless:

> 1) They've installed some sort of Remote Desktop service, and

> 2) Have not secured it with a username/password (and most of them
>    won't let you run them that way).

> Only then will I be able to use THEIR mail client to do anything.

No need to use their mail at all.  If they've got file sharing on,
they probably have a printer available.  Just print a note letting
them know ... Nothing scares the s**t out of people faster than
when their equipment starts up on its own ...


--Gene

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
From: sidd@situ.com ()
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:03:39 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


In article <telecom23.29.7@telecom-digest.org>, John Bartley
<johnbartley@email.com> wrote:

> 1. Make sure to change the network name from the default setting.
> 2. Turn on the highest level of security possible.
> 3. Turn the WAP/hub off every night and leave it off when not in use.
> 4. Manually generate the encryption keys.
> 5. Set up a VPN.

May I suggest, instead of the above ... haul some cat5 ?

------------------------------

From: csx130mph@yahoo.com (Dan Pham)
Subject: Norvergence (NorV) Information Confirmation Request
Date:  22 Jan 2004 21:27:13 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I am hoping to confirm the following or to get the truth from
individuals who have knowledge of it.

I was recently told that Mr. Jim Smith, the Vice President of Sales
for Norvergence, was fired on or about January 16, 2004. The supposed
reason behind his termination was because it cost Norvergence millions
of Dollars to hire and train many outside sales representatives; yet,
their retention of these sales reps as employees was very low. They
would usually resign or get terminated in a few months. Supposedly,
Norvergence blamed Mr. Jim Smith for all of this turnover at the
company.

Can anyone confirm that Jim Smith was fired? If so, are the reasons
above true? What is the retention percentage Norvergence has for it's
outside sales reps? If Jim Smith was fired, who actually fired him?
Who replaced him?

Norvergence seems to have a reputation for being unreasonably strict
on employees. Does it now want to be "kinder and gentler" to it's
employees?

------------------------------

From: John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Is LD by the Minute Going the Way of the Dodo?
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:04:02 -0800
Organization: Diogenes the Cynic Hot-Tubbing Society


Paul wrote:

> Can anyone find a "gotcha" in the $20 plan?

The small print in their TV ads says "voice only".  Fax and modem
calls aren't allowed under the plan.

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions (Peter R. Webb)
    Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage? (DevilsPGD)
    Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage? (email@crazyhat)
    VoIP and Firewalls (Dave Greenfield)
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Subject: Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions in Europe
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:32:12 -0000
From: Peter R. Webb <peter.webb@visiongain.com>


Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions
Regulatory and Commercial Implications of Reviewing 3G Licences in Europe


21st & 22nd April 2004
Marriott Kensington, London

The background to this conference: 

It has been three years since European mobile operators won their 3G
licences. Operators have adjusted to stock market falls and funding
constraints, GPRS has given a new lease of life to existing 2G
networks, and operators who have launched 3G networks are finding
teething problems impacting service reliability, and are still to
demonstrate a 3G killer application to make 2G obsolete. As a
consequence major operators have tried to re-negotiate the obligations
attached to their licence rights.

This visiongain conference will bring together the key stakeholders
involved in, and impacted by, the debate surrounding 3G rollout
obligations. Participants will be able to engage in the debate, and
have their say on 3G licence obligations, their alternatives and the
future of 3G services.

Speakers from major players within the 3G arena will include:

Robert Mourik, Senior Manager, Public Policy, Vodafone

Rui Lemos Pereira, Vice President, Regulatory Affairs, T-Mobile Intl

Christer Hammarlund, Principal Admin, DG Info Society, European Commission

Andrea Camanzi, Senior Vice President, Regulatory Affairs, Telecom Italia

Steve Jordan, Head of European Regulatory Policy, mmO2

Joachim Lcking, Deputy Head of Unit, DG Competition, European Commission

Graham Louth, Director of Spectrum Markets, Ofcom (UK)

Jaroslav Kubista, Director, External Affairs, Eurotel

Vincenzo Monaci, Commissioner for Networks & Infrastructures, Agcom (Italy)

Marc Furrer, Director General, Federal Office of Comm (Switzerland)

Geraldine Philippe, General Counsel, Comfone

Magnus Axelsson, Senior Advisor, Post-och telestyrelsen -PTS (Sweden)


Key themes discussed at Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions :

- Why 3G licence conditions need to be reviewed and what adjustments
  are needed?

- How to create the right regulatory environment to encourage 3G rollout?

- What actions are needed to facilitate investment in infrastructure
  and services?

- The benefits and risks of spectrum trading.

How will attending this event benefit you ?

** Debate the future of 3G telephony with key industry decision-makers;
** Anticipate and influence regulatory changes in 3G rollout;
** Prepare for business opportunities in 3G services.

Who should attend Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions?

By industry sector:

 Telecom operators
 Vendors
 Equipment manufacturers

By job title:

 Head of Strategy and Business Development
 Head of Regulatory Affairs
 Head of Corporate Affairs
 General Counsels
 Telecoms Policy Analysts
 Legal services
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 Head of Strategic Policy
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Strategies for re-negotiating rollout conditions;
20th April 2004 - Led by: Imogen Bailey, Edelman

Key themes will include:

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-  Where to find external support for campaigning?
-  The role of pressure groups and think tanks;
-  Developing strategies for impact.

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Day One 
Wednesday 21st April 2004

Conference Day One Chair
Stephen Pentland
Partner

Spectrum Strategy Consultants
8:30 Registration and coffee

9:00 Opening remarks from the Chair

THE RATIONALE FOR REVIEWING LICENCE OBLIGATIONS

What were the objectives behind 3G licence conditions in Europe, to
what degree have obligations been met and is there scope for
re-negotiation? Regulators, operators and other players involved in
the market will give their views on 3G rollout, competition issues and
how to make 3G a success.

9:10 KEYNOTE

The EU's perspective on reviewing licence obligations and
on 3G rollout

 What were the objectives of 3G rollout at European level in terms
of coverage, services provided, markets?
 How does the Regulatory Framework on Electronic
Communications cover licence conditions and 3G rollout?
 What are the respective roles of the EC and the National
Regulatory Authorities (NRAs)?

Christer Hammarlund
Principal Administrator
DG Information Society, European Commission

9:50 The Swedish perspective on reviewing licence obligations

 What were the regulator's objectives in terms of 3G rollout in Sweden?
 How are Swedish operators complying with their obligations?
 Are operators' strategies influencing the States' communications
 policy?
 How to respond to licensees' bid for a softening of their obligations?
 To what level are 3G services available in Sweden and are they
successful?

Magnus Axelsson
Senior Advisor
Post-och telestyrelsen - PTS

10:20 Challenges and successes in 3G rollout:
the Irish experience

 The licensing process for 3G in Ireland and rollout obligations.
 How are the licence obligations fulfilled in Ireland?
 The current state of 3G services offer in Ireland: success or failure?
 Encouraging sharing of sites and infrastructure to facilitate rollout.
 Some future challenges for the regulator.

Jim Connolly
Senior Manager, Spectrum Management, Competition & International
Strategy
Comreg & Chairman, CEPT ECC Working Group Frequency Management

10:50 The Swiss experience as former President of IRG and as
President of CEPT

 The Swiss experience of licensing process: choices and rollout
 conditions.
 The relations between the regulator and the operators.
 Operators' strategies for re-negotiating obligations: how to
 respond?
 The importance of international dialogue for regulators: the role of
 the CEPT and ERG/IRG.

Marc Furrer
Director General
Ofcom, Switzerland

11:20 Coffee and discussion

11:40 Competition aspects of 3G rollout within the European
Regulatory Framework

 How to implement EC competition rules in 3G rollout?
 The competition assessment of network sharing as a way to ease
 3G rollout conditions
 Possible future competition concerns in 3G services

Joachim Lcking, Deputy Head of Unit
Telecommunications and Post; Information Society Coordination
DG Competition, European Commission

12:20 Licence obligations and implementation of 3G rollout in the
UK Communications Act

 The competition aspects of the UK Communications Act
 How to implement competition rules in 3G rollout?
 Is there scope in the Act for a relaxation of 3G licence obligations?
 3G and 3G like services: how to regulate?

Richard Eccles, Partner
Bird & Bird

12:50 Lunch

14:10 Comparing the Japanese and European rollout conditions
and 3G markets: NTT Docomo's view

 The process of 3G licensing in Japan: issues at stakes with the
 beauty contest.
 The future of 3G services: time scale for rollout and vision for 3G
 How do license conditions in Europe compare with the licensing
 process in Japan?
 How to adapt to local markets and varying national regulations?

Senior Representative
NTT DoCoMo Inc.

14:50 A vision for the 3G world and its prerequisites

 What are customer expectations for 3G services?
 How will the deployment of 3G services impact on the market
 place?
 What rollout conditions can facilitate deployment of 3G services?
 What are the other policy prerequisites for a successful deployment
 of 3G services?
 Is a review of licence conditions necessary for a successful rollout?

Rui Lemos Pereira
Vice President Regulatory Affairs
T-Mobile International

15:30 Coffee and discussion

15:50 Licence obligations: is a review necessary?

 What are the optimum rollout conditions for a successful 3G rollout?
 Does the investment needed to comply with the obligations make
 business sense?
 How to deal with competitive licensees?

Andrea Camanzi
Senior Vice President Regulatory Affairs
Telecom Italia

16:30 A successful case of re-negotiation: Eurotel
 What were the original licence conditions?
 How were the relation with the regulator when re-negotiating
 conditions?
 What were Eurotel's objectives when re-negotiating licence
 obligations?
 The expected benefits from a delayed 3G rollout in the Czech
 Republic.

Jaroslav Kubista
Director External Affairs
Eurotel

17:10 Close of Day

Day Two 
Thursday 22nd April 2004

Conference Day Two Chair

Marina Wiggs
Senior Manager
Spectrum Strategy Consultants

8:40 Registration and coffee

9:10 Opening remarks from the chair

9:20 Creating the licence conditions for a successful 3G rollout:
overview of the Italian case

 What were the regulator's objectives in terms of 3G rollout in Italy?
 How was the hybrid licensing method organised?
 How successful has the rollout been in Italy so far?
 Is there a case for a review of licence obligations?

Vincenzo Monaci
Commissioner for Networks and Infrastructures
Agcom (Italian Communications Regulatory Authority)

10:00 Vodafone's perspective on 3G licences and rollout

 What licence conditions can ensure optimum 3G rollout?
 Negotiating rollout obligations with various national regulators.
 Adapting 3G strategy to local markets.
 Future challenges in 3G rollout for operators.

Robert Mourik
Senior Manager Public Affairs
Vodafone

10:40 Coffee and discussion

11:00 The case for infrastructure sharing: a way to facilitate
rollout conditions?

 The pros and cons of infrastructure sharing.
 What are the issues in terms of competition law?
 The European Commission's position on infrastructure sharing.
 Do license obligations allow sharing?

Chris Watson, Partner
Allen & Overy

11:40 IT infrastructure requirements for 3G rollout

 Using effective IT infrastructure to deliver 3G mobile data services
 Multi-channel multi-modal portals, cost effective operational and
 business support systems, managing the plethora of devices
 Do operators' rollout schedule influence IT infrastructure
 providers' business strategy?

Chris Bray
e-Business Executive
IBM Wireless

12:15 Lunch
SPECTRUM TRADING: a solution to ease operators' licence obligations?

This session will review the opportunities and the risks at stake in
spectrum trading and whether it can be a solution to help the
deployment of 3G services. It will look in particular at the way
regulators have responded to the ideas so far and to the opportunities
operators expect from it.

13:20 Preparing a new regulatory framework for spectrum management

 The results of the consultation by Ofcom and the
 Radiocommunications Agency.
 Autonomy and harmonisation.
 Proposals for trading and liberalisation.
 Timetable for implementation.

Graham Louth
Director of Spectrum Markets
Ofcom (UK)

14:00 Business expectations from spectrum trading in 3G

 Benefits and risks from spectrum trading.
 Would it facilitate 3G rollout?
 What would be the benefits for customers?

Steve Jordan, Head of European Regulatory Policy
MmO2 & Chair of GSM Europe regulatory working group

14:40 Challenges and options in introducing spectrum trading in
Europe

 Practical challenges in the introduction of spectrum trading.
 Would it make the business case for 3G more appealing?
 What changes to the industry structure may result?
 Moves towards introduction of spectrum trading.
 The benefits of a harmonised approach to spectrum trading
 regulation in Europe.

Amit Napgal
Senior Consultant, Analysys, &
Project Manager - Study on introduction of spectrum trading in
Europe for the European Commission

15:20 Coffee and discussion

15:40 The UK spectrum trading proposals

 How are the options constrained by the Communications Act?
 What scope would there be for deriving value from a spectrum
 trade?
 What scope would there be for interference management being
 dealt with by private treaty?
 What is the likely impact on 3G?

Tony Ballard,
Partner, Head of telecoms group
Field Fisher Waterhouse

FORESEEING FUTURE REGULATORY CHALLENGES

16:10 The legal implications of WLAN in 3G rollout

 Is WLAN a threat to 3G?
 Is there a reaction on the regulators side possible?
 Should there be a reaction in order to protect 3G licensees?

Geraldine Philippe
General Counsel
Comfone

16:40 Digital rights management in 3G services: do rollout
obligations influence operators' strategies?

 The current dispositions within the European framework on
 electronic communications.
 Digital rights strategies for operators and content providers.
 Will 3G services face more challenges in terms of digital rights
 management than 2G and 2.5G?

Ian Penman
Partner
New Media Law LLP

17:10 Close of conference

Pre conference interactive workshop
Strategies for re-negotiating rollout conditions

Workshop Leader:
Imogen Bailey, Director Technology
Edelman

The objective of this workshop is to look into companies' strategies
in approaching public bodies to ensure optimum conditions to deploy 3G
services. It will provide expert insight into how to optimise
relations with regulators and government bodies in the process of 3G
deployment. Professionals with experience of managing public affairs
campaign and lobbying strategies will give first-hand examples in a
business-orientated, interactive meeting.

Workshop schedule

8:40 Coffee and registration
9:10 Identifying the decision-makers
 The respective roles of EU institutions and national bodies:
 governments, national regulatory authorities (NRAs).
 The role of telecom regulators vs. competition authorities in issues
 related to 3G.
10:30 Coffee and discussion
11:00 The role of pressure groups and think tanks
 Where to find external support for campaigning?
 Which organisations are involved in influencing public campaigning
 (trade associations, independent think tanks, private consultants)?
  Finding the right level group: when to contact pan-European and/or
  national organisations?

12:30 Networking lunch
13:30 Developing strategies for impact
 How to approach different bodies?
 How to build negotiation strategies to ensure results?
 What makes a successful public affairs campaign?
 Tools to achieve re-negotiation of regulatory conditions in the wireless
 sector.
15:00 Coffee and discussion
15:30 Case studies

Each session will include time for questions and roundtable discussions.
Benefits of attending:

 Improve your knowledge of government and regulatory bodies
 acting in 3G
 Find out about strategies to improve campaigns related to
 wireless issues
 Learn new negotiation techniques from concrete examples

About Edelman:

Edelman is the world's largest independent public relations firm, with
1,800 professionals in 39 offices. Edelman' s services in London
include : Corporate relations, Investor relations, media analysis,
Media relations, media training, monitoring and evaluation, Online
Solutions.

Edelman's technology department is lead by Imogen Bailey. Sectors
covered by Edelman's clients in London include: Mobile Communications,
Data storage, Semiconductors, Chips, Software applications.

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From: DevilsPGD <lookatmeNOSPAM@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage?
Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy!
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:20:28 GMT


In message <<telecom23.34.7@telecom-digest.org>> cscapella@yahoo.com
(howard) did ramble:

> I am about to start up a new office in which I plan on having about 4
> phones, possibly more in the future.  My question is: Is it possible
> to have only 1 phone line that can go to any extension and handle
> multiple incoming or outgoing calls simultaneously and integrate with
> Vonage?

> Obviously I want to reduce my local phone company expenses.  Would I
> be using a phone system like the ATT 4-Line KSU-less phone system to
> tie it all together?

> Thanks for you help,

Short answer, yes I believe that this would work.

--
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage?
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:16:22 GMT


In article <telecom23.34.7@telecom-digest.org>, cscapella@yahoo.com 
says:

> Hello everyone,

> I am about to start up a new office in which I plan on having about 4
> phones, possibly more in the future.  My question is: Is it possible
> to have only 1 phone line that can go to any extension and handle
> multiple incoming or outgoing calls simultaneously and integrate with
> Vonage?

> Obviously I want to reduce my local phone company expenses.  Would I
> be using a phone system like the ATT 4-Line KSU-less phone system to
> tie it all together?

> Thanks for you help,

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the Vonage box provide just one line? 

If you want to save business costs, let the local phone company drag
in a line or two and use them only for incoming. Make the Vonage line
outgoing only and default that as the LD line.

As to KSU's vs. ksu-less, in my experience the ksu-less are crap. They
work fine for a few months and then all hell break loose.

Instead, look around for a used KSU system like the Partner Plus, or
others on Ebay. Stay far away from any 416 type system though - they
are very hard to deal with and use proprietary phones, etc. The
Partner stuff can be had cheap but you can even hook standard sets up
to it.

As an example, I found a Partner Plus system with thirteen Partner
phones (5 of which were display phones.) for $550 on ebay a couple
years ago. I'd imagine there are similar values.

------------------------------

From: Dave Greenfield <dgreenfield@cmp.com>
Subject: VoIP and Firewalls
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:09:28 +0200
Organization: Bezeq International Ltd.


Hi all,

Has anyone here looked VoIP perimeter security? I'm trying to figure
out whether conventional firewalls have the performance & smarts to
secure the VoIP perimeter without interfering with VoIP functionality.

More specifically are the jitter characteristics and standards-support
sufficient to handle a robust, enterprise VoIP deployment,
particularly seeing that most firewalls don't implement a SIP/h.323
UA/client, but perform their operations through content inspection.

All views can be held on background or for publication -- as you
like. I'm really looking more to solicit the minds of leading thinker
then engage in a whole PR rigmarole - if you know what I mean.  Please
reply offline.

Thanks,

David Greenfield
International Technology Editor
Network Magazine
v  1-516-620--0622
e: dgreenfield@cmp.com

IM: NetMagDave  (on AIM, Yahoo, and Hotmail)

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: AT&T Wireless Shrinks Its Dowry
Date: 23 Jan 2004 10:25:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aude Lagorce, 01.22.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - In the wake of AT&T Wireless' disappointing fourth-quarter
results, a merger with a rival operator now looks more like a shotgun
wedding than an alliance of reason.

Rumors of consolidation in the wireless telecom industry have long
been swirling, but a big merger started looking more probable this
week when Cingular Wireless and NTT DoCoMo, Japan's leading mobile
operator, both reportedly made bids for AT&T Wireless, the
third-largest operator in the U.S. Cingular is co-owned by SBC
Communications and BellSouth.

In its earnings conference call this morning, AT&T Wireless
acknowledged interest from several competitors. Although the firm
didn't identify its suitors, it said it would examine the bids, thus
confirming speculation that AT&T Wireless is in play.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/22/cx_al_0122awe.html

Eric Friedebach
/Mars: northern Nevada without the legal brothels/

------------------------------

From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob)
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL
Date: 23 Jan 2004 08:32:55 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Lightspeed Technical Support <mnewton@lightspeed.ca> wrote in message news:<telecom23.31.2@telecom-digest.org>:

>> Personally, I think they're scumbags.  It is almost impossible to
>> cancel service with them.  I witnessed a friend of mine on the phone
>> with them for an hour trying to cancel his son's AOL account.  Seems
>> she kept "losing" the account info while he was on the line.  You
>> know, that crazy computer system, gosh darn ...

>> She made him repeat his full name, address, account number, credit
> > card number, blood type, etc. at least 4 times during the call.  They
>> really try to wear you out.  Even though it was the parent's credit
>> card on the account, AOL had the nerve to tell him they were not
>> authorized to cancel the account and the son would need to do it.  But
>> the son is not 18 yet, so go figure.

>> Their intent, in my opinion, is to get you to just hang up in disgust
>> and live with the bill for another month.

>> -- Paul

> Don't know about the US, but my wife worked in billing at AOL Europe.
> The call centre down in Waterford had a department referred to as
> either "the cancellation department" or "the member save department"
> (depending whether or not one was talking to a customer.)  These guys
> were paid commission for every account they stopped from cancelling,
> and were authorised to use all sorts of incentives to entice people to
> stay on (my wife's job included auditing all the freebies that the
> member save department was giving away.)

> mike.

BTW, how much would you pay for AOL ADSL in the US?  Or any other ISP
on ADSL for that matter.

TIA!

Rob

------------------------------

From: Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org>
Subject: Re: The Electronic Verification Is in the Mail
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:42:56 -0800
Organization: Copyright (c) 2004 by Jack Hamilton.
Reply-To: jfh@acm.org


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> The Postal Service, Microsoft and a technology company called 
> Authentidate have developed a system called Electronic Postmark for 
> verifying that a document's content is the same as when a user saved 
> it. The service, introduced in October, is in some ways more a notary 
> public's stamp than a postmark, intended particularly for those 
> affixing their electronic signatures to documents relayed online.

> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/technology/circuits/22post.html

This sounds very similar to the PGP Digital Timestamping Service
(http://www.itconsult.co.uk/stamper.htm), which has been around since
1995.


In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and
security.  And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and
security.  Edward Gibbons


Jack Hamilton
jfh@acm.org

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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Consumed: The Treo 600
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:00:02 -0500


The Treo 600

By ROB WALKER
January 25, 2004

As the editor of Gizmodo, a Web log that traffics in the latest news 
about gadgets from cellphones to laptops, Peter Rojas is bombarded 
with e-mail from people who want to hear (or spread) the latest 
gossip about this or that device or innovation. But the anticipation 
around one particular gizmo stood out over the past year: a so-called 
smart phone known as the Treo 600, made by PalmOne. The buzz started 
in June, months before the phone became available in the United 
States, when a certain photograph was posted on online message 
boards. The photo of company executives at a press conference had 
been blown up to highlight a prototype of the device that one of them 
was holding. "People were going crazy," Rojas says.

It's startling that anybody could be excited by the appearance of yet
another cellphone -- particularly one that costs around $500. But the
Treo 600 is a kind of Swiss Army knife of gadgetry: it's a phone; it's
a text-messaging device with a full (if teensy) keyboard; it's a
personal digital assistant; it has a camera; and you can use it to
surf the Web. It weighs about six ounces. Advertising Age named it the
No. 1 'must-have' product for 2004. In a December online poll by
M.I.T.'s Technology Review magazine meant to gauge the gift cravings
of its readers, smart phones like the new Treo trailed only the iPod.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/magazine/25CONSUMED.html

http://www.bargainpda.com/price/default.asp?productID=1161&brandName=Palm&productName=Treo+610&display=priceDetail

http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=1854&showComments=true

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Study: Ethernet in the City Cuts Carrier Costs
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:15:47 -0500



By Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Telephone companies could cut their operating costs by 23 percent a
year by using Ethernet services in their metropolitan area networks
instead of traditional telecommunications services, according to a new
study.

The study, scheduled to be released Monday, found that carriers could
reduce their operational costs by 18 percent during the first year of
a three-year network implementation. The potential savings rise to 20
percent in the second year and roughly 24 percent in the third year,
according to the study, which was commissioned by the Metro Ethernet
Forum, a marketing group made up of equipment vendors and service
providers.

PointEast Research, which conducted the survey, compiled results based
on interviews and data provided by 36 European and North American
carriers, including British Telecom, BellSouth, SBC Communications,
France Telecom, and Time Warner Telecom.


http://news.com.com/2100-1037-5146740.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Time Is Right For Home Network Appliances, Gadgets
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:41:53 -0500


By Leslie Walker

LAS VEGAS

It wasn't Microsoft's data wristwatch, nor the high-tech toilet, nor
even the Web-connected bread maker on display here that got me
thinking about how the Internet is insinuating itself into the mundane
parts of our lives.

It was the Internet alarm clock. For years I have wanted to wake up to
a bedside clock that displays news headlines and a local weather
forecast. When my eyes first open, I don't want music or radio
chatter. A brief buzzing sound and short text newscast would ease me
out of bed just fine.

So I was intrigued at the Consumer Electronics Show last week to see
that Salton Inc. has put the digital command post for its new line of
networked home appliances inside a clock radio with a CD player and
small display screen. You program the $499 clock from a Web page to
show your favorite news, sports and stock quotes. You can also use it
to remotely turn on the $99 Salton coffee pot in your kitchen, say,
using the same radio frequency as cordless phones.

Salton calls its stainless steel clock a "home hub." It was one of 
many master control systems on display here designed to give people a 
unified way to manage the explosion of new digital devices being 
hooked up to home networks.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18243-2004Jan14.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: A Wireless Deal Could Trouble Gear Makers
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:21:56 -0500



By BARNABY J. FEDER

The announcement this week that AT&T Wireless, the nation's 
third-largest cellular company, is for sale adds uncertainty to 
growth projections for wireless equipment suppliers at an especially 
sensitive moment for investors, according to industry analysts.

Increased demand for wireless networking equipment helped companies 
like Lucent Technologies ,Motorola ,Nortel Networks and Nokia achieve 
solid earnings and revenue growth for the last quarter of 2003 and 
sent stock prices soaring.

But some fund managers are worrying that the stocks have climbed so 
far, so quickly that they will tumble at the slightest 
disappointment. Indeed, share prices for the major companies in the 
sector, except Nokia, which reported earnings on Thursday, have 
already retreated from 52-week highs achieved in recent days.

The many unknowns contributing to the uncertainty include who will buy
AT&T Wireless, which is based in Redmond, Wash., and when the deal
could be completed. Some analysts are not yet convinced that any deal
will be struck. The major equipment companies declined to comment on
the potential impact of a deal, or did not return calls seeking
comment.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/24/technology/24gear.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Dead Cellphone? No Wall Plug? No Worries
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:50:54 -0500


By WALTER S. MOSSBERG

Cellphones aren't just phones anymore -- they're e-mail machines,
cameras, game consoles and more. But all of these new functions just
put more stress on one of the phones' main weaknesses -- short-lived
batteries. Unless you bulk up your slender phone with a huge
extra-size battery, using all the new services can drain power quickly
and force you to find a wall plug or car cigarette lighter.

But there are several portable chargers on the market that claim to
stave off the dreaded dead battery, without requiring you to plug into
an electrical outlet. This week, my assistant Katie Boehret and I
tested three of these devices. They range in price from about $6 to
$25, and each uses a different method for producing a charge.

None replace the phone's battery itself. They replenish the phone's
own battery, essentially simulating what happens when you plug in a
standard wall charger.


http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/solution-20040114.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: E-mail Scam Taps Antiterrorist Push, says FDIC
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:21:01 -0500


By Robert Lemos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the national insurer of U.S. 
bank accounts, warned Americans on Friday that a convincing e-mail 
scam is making the rounds.

The fraudulent e-mail claims to be from the FDIC and informs 
recipients that their bank account has been denied insurance as a 
result of an investigation by the U.S. Department of Homeland 
Security into "suspected violations of the Patriot Act." The USA 
PATRIOT Act, which was passed after the Sept. 11 attacks, gives broad 
powers to law enforcement to combat terrorism.


http://news.com.com/2100-7349-5146716.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Protect Yourself From Deceptive (Spoofed), Malicious Web Sites
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:56:58 -0500


Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 833786

Steps that you can take to help identify and to help protect yourself
from deceptive (spoofed) Web sites and malicious hyperlinks

SUMMARY

When you point to a hyperlink in Microsoft Internet Explorer,
Microsoft Outlook Express, or Microsoft Outlook, the address of the
Web site typically appears in the Status bar at the bottom of the
window. After you click a link that opens in Internet Explorer, the
address of the Web site typically appears in the Internet Explorer
Address bar, and the title of the Web page typically appears in the
Title bar of the window.

However, a malicious user could create a link to a deceptive 
(spoofed) Web site that displays the address, or URL, to a legitimate 
Web site in the Status bar, Address bar, and Title bar. This article 
describes steps that you can take to help mitigate this issue and to 
help you to identify a deceptive (spoofed) Web site or URL.

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=833786

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: 'Exploding' Cell Phone Battery Recalled
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:01:46 -0500


By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission issued its first-ever
recall of a cell phone battery on Friday, sparking new concern about
the safety of a gadget in the hands, pockets and purses of 155 million
Americans.

The voluntary recall affects Kyocera Wireless model 7135 smart phones
sold between September and December, bought either online or in stores
belonging to Verizon Wireless, Arkansas-based Alltel or Chicago-based
US Cellular. The handsets use batteries manufactured by Coslight
International Group of Hong Kong, and have a serial number on the
underside that begins "-05".

San Diego-based Kyocera said on Friday that it is trying to reach all
40,000 people who bought the cell phone in order to arrange for
delivery of a free replacement.

On four occasions, the batteries in the Kyocera phones have
short-circuited and heated up enough to trigger a built-in safety
mechanism that vents superheated gases in order to avoid an explosion,
according to the safety commission. On Dec. 6, a Philadelphia-area man
suffered second-degree burns on his leg when the spare cell phone
battery in his pocket vented, it said. In the three other instances,
the batteries were connected to the Kyocera 7135, but the phones were
not being held or close to a person when they vented, according to
Kyocera.

http://news.com.com/2100-1039-5146534.html

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Legal Battle Over Chat-Room STDs
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:05:27 -0500


By Randy Dotinga

Frustrated by America Online's refusal to interfere with its huge 
network of chat rooms, public health officials are considering legal 
action to force AOL and certain websites to warn members about 
outbreaks of sexually transmitted diseases among gay men who use 
their services.


http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,62005,00.html

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would like to ask Mr. Dotinga *why*
are the 'public heath officials' picking on gay guys about this? 
One cannot get AIDS or other venereal deseases by chatting on a
computer, however if people choose to arrange a meeting after a
chat room discussion, that is another thing, but not just gay gays.
AOL nor any other ISP can do anything about people arranging to 
meet personally at a later time. That's a purely personal decision,
and just limited to gay guys.  Why did Mr. Dotinga and wired.com
report something like this?    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Announces Additional Improvements to Protocol Licensing
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:12:56 -0500


Changes Include Simplified Terms and New Cost Structure

REDMOND, Wash., Jan. 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Microsoft Corp.
(Nasdaq: MSFT) today announced that it will make additional changes to
its Communications Protocol Licensing Program that will further
improve the program and make licensing easier and more attractive. The
changes respond to feedback and suggestions made by the government and
industry through the consent decree compliance process.

The new licensing terms will be posted on the Microsoft Communications
Protocol Program (MCPP) Web site. The changes, which are part of the
company's ongoing effort to improve the program, include shortening
and simplifying the license agreement, making approximately 20
protocols available without charge, making other protocols used to
perform particular tasks available for a fixed fee or fixed fee per
unit, and changing the evaluation program to provide prospective
licensees with samples of the technical documentation with no
confidentiality restrictions.

Microsoft established the MCPP in accordance with the final judgment
in its antitrust case with the Department of Justice and a number of
State Attorneys General as part of its overall compliance
responsibilities under the final judgment. Under the program,
third-party developers can obtain licenses to protocol technology
developed by Microsoft as part of its Windows(R) family of client and
server operating systems. Developers can implement Microsoft's
protocol technology in their own server products to improve
interoperability with Windows. The MCPP was released in August
2002. To date, 11 companies have taken licenses to implement
Microsoft's protocols in their products.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40291257

------------------------------

From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Settles With Teen Over Web Site
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:18:41 -0500


SEATTLE, Jan 23 (Reuters) - In the end, it paid to be Mike Rowe.

The 17-year-old Canadian teenager who caught the attention of
Microsoft Corp.'s (NASDAQ:MSFT) lawyers by registering
www.mikerowesoft.com, agreed on Friday to give up his Web site in
exchange from some perks from the world's largest software maker.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40301045

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:57:13 -0500
From: Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
Organization: Booz Allen Hamilton
Subject: Overseas Toll Free Numbers


Some of the Military departments recently instituted a worldwide
community services help line. One of the items that caught my eye in
the advisory was access from overseas via an "OCONUS (Outside the
CONtintal US) universal free phone at 800-5404-xxxx (with appropriate
country specific toll free access codes)".  Note the number is 11
digits, not 10 like here in the US. I've heard of intra-country toll
free numbers, but not this. Anyone know how this works, or what a
country-specific-toll-free-code consists of? Does the user still pay
for a local call, and the toll-free number owner picks up the balance
of the overseas call cost?  This is a nice service, especially for
those in isolated locations away from the US.

By the way, thanks for all of the responses and suggestions on my
query about wireless home networks from last week.  I learned a lot; I
have more research to do, but will be very security conscious if I
choose to go that route.

Regards,

Mike Quinn
Springfield VA

------------------------------

From: Alan Burkitt-Gray <ABurkitt@EUROMONEYPLC.COM>
Subject: Global Leaders and Thought Leadership in Telecommunications
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:47:19 -0000


I'd be grateful if I ask for Digest readers' help and advice with a
project we're working on at *Global Telecoms Business magazine*.

Who are the thought leaders in the telecommunications industry in
2004? We want to identify some of the key people who are making and
will make most impact on the industry with their strategies, their
imagination and their thought leadership.

All I want from list members are a couple of names of the people we
should be considering. They will already have, or will shortly
acquire, world standing in the industry.

In September 2004 the team here at *Global Telecoms Business* magazine
in London will be producing a publication looking at the key figures
in the industry throughout the world and the pressing issues that are
facing them.  We will profile these top people and their ideas,
alongside some analytical chapters and articles looking at the
industry's challenges for the next five or ten years.

We already have our draft list of the 50 or so people we think are
saying the things that are giving the industry sleepless nights, the
people who must be listened to by all those who are serious about
doing business in telecoms in the future. We will pick the final list
on the merits of the individuals and the contributions they are
making, or will make, to the industry. It will be a real guide to the
future.

But I bet I've missed some people, especially those whose main impact
is yet to be felt. They might just now be introducing radical ideas
into incumbents; they might be running competitive providers which are
poised for expansion; they might be in start-ups with extraordinary
ideas. On the other hand, they might be financiers or investors with
plans to restructure the industry; or lawmakers or regulators who are
about to change the competitive framework. They might be working with
a supplier of software or hardware or for a content provider with a
service or product that will turn the industry on its head. They might
be in a university or corporate lab and be about to move into their
first Apple-style garage.

Send me a couple of names, off list, with details of where I can find
them (organization, email address, phone number, whatever you can) and
a few words about why you think we should consider them for our list
of global leaders in thought leadership in the telecoms industry.

Many thanks, 

Alan Burkitt-Gray 
Editor, Global Telecoms Business 
Euromoney Institutional Investor plc, Nestor House, Playhouse Yard, London
EC4V 5EX, UK 
tel +44 20 7779 8518 fax +44 20 7779 8248 
e-mail aburkitt@euromoneyplc.com 
http://www.globaltelecomsbusiness.com 

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Subject: Call For Papers:  Ubicomp 2004
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                             CALL FOR PAPERS

                             UBICOMP 2004

                    The 6th International Conference on

                          Ubiquitous Computing


                            7-10 September, 2004

                               Nottingham, UK

                               www.ubicomp.org


You are invited to contribute original and exciting ideas to UbiComp
2004, the Sixth International Conference on Ubiquitous Computing.
UbiComp is the premier venue for presenting research and development
achievements in the design, implementation, deployment and evaluation
of computing technology that migrates beyond our desktops and becomes
increasingly embedded in a wide variety of other objects.
 
Submissions to UbiComp 2004 must be original, unpublished work and may
not be simultaneously submitted to any other conference or journal.

Papers will be included in the Conference Proceedings published by
Springer-Verlag in the series Lecture Notes in Computer Science
(LNCS). Each conference attendee will receive a printed copy of the
proceedings; additional copies can be purchased through
Springer-Verlag. The proceedings will also be made available through
digital libraries.
 
Submissions must be in the LNCS format; full instructions and
templates are available at:
http://www.springer.de/comp/lncs/authors.html

A Conference Supplement, containing extended abstracts for Interactive
Posters, Demonstrations, Videos, Doctoral Colloquium papers, and
Workshop and Panel descriptions, will be printed and given to
conference attendees. Electronic versions of these materials will also
be posted on the UbiComp web site. Submissions for these participation
categories must use the ACM SIGCHI conference publications format.

Full papers:

For Ubicomp 2004 we are soliciting high quality technical papers that
describe original, unpublished research on handheld, mobile or
ubiquitous computing. Potential areas of interest include:
technologies, methodologies and formalisms to support ubiquitous
computing and the development of ubiquitous computing applications
(e.g. novel devices, system software, software engineering techniques
and interaction methods); reports on experiences of designing,
developing, deploying and living with ubiquitous computing systems;
and, studies of the wider implications of ubiquitous computing. We are
particularly seeking papers appropriate to the interdisciplinary
community represented at the UbiComp 2004 conference. Submissions
should report concrete, transferable results that contribute to our
understanding of ubiquitous computing and help advance the
state-of-the-art.

Papers will be evaluated on the basis of originality, significance of
the contribution to the field, technical correctness and presentation.
All papers will be peer-reviewed by members of the UbiComp 2004
program committee and by additional members of the ubiquitous
computing research community. Papers submitted to UbiComp 2004 must
not be under simultaneous review for any other conference, journal,
workshop or other publication.

Technical papers should be no longer than 18 pages, including an
abstract of no more than 100 words, all figures and references, and
should be formatted according to the Springer-Verlag LNCS format. In
contrast to previous Ubicomp conferences there are no separate
categories for long and short papers; all papers will be considered as
full papers and should be an appropriate length for their content.
Accepted papers will be published in the UbiComp 2004 Proceedings and
authors are, of course, required to attend the conference to present
their work.

UbiComp 2004 submissions should be properly anonymized to facilitate
blind reviewing: papers being submitted should not list the authors,
affiliations or addresses on the first page -- to preserve formatting,
it would be best to leave these sections blank. Author, affiliation
and address information should still be filled out on the electronic
form for submitting the paper, and final camera-ready copies should
have this information included. Authors are also encouraged to take
care throughout the entire document to minimize references that may
reveal the identity of the authors or institutions.

UbiComp 2004 requires electronic submission. Reviewers will be
instructed to maintain the confidentiality of all materials for
submitted papers throughout the entire reviewing process. Submissions
should contain no information that will be proprietary or confidential
at the time of publication.

Full submission details are available at www.ubicomp.org 

Deadline for Submission: Papers due midnight GMT on March 12th 2004.

Panels:

Panels provide a forum in which to examine innovative, provocative,
controversial, or late-breaking issues. The best panels are often
structured as a debate with an opportunity for audience participation.
We are open to innovative formats including live demonstrations and/or
technology competitions.

Panel proposals should be no longer than 4 pages in the ACM SIGCHI
conference publications format, and should include the panel topic,
the names of panelists who have agreed to participate, one paragraph
biographical sketches describing each panelists' expertise, a position
statement by each panelist, an overview of the ways in which the
position statements relate to each other, and the proposed structure
or format of the panel. If supporting technologies are required,
proposals should clearly list these.

Abstracts of accepted Panel proposals will be published in the
Conference Supplement that will be circulated to attendees at the
conference.

Further Submission Details to Follow
Deadline for Submission: May 7th 2004

Videos:

Videos are a great way to present innovations in ubiquitous computing,
especially for those systems that would be particularly difficult to
deploy at the conference for a live demonstration. Authors who are
considering submissions in other participation categories are also
encouraged to consider submitting formal videos that illustrate their
work.

Video submissions should be 4 to 8 minutes long. Longer videos will be
subject to stricter review criteria. Authors must also submit a short
paper abstract with a maximum of 2 pages in the ACM SIGCHI conference
publications format, including all figures and references, for each
video submission. A panel of international reviewers will review
videos for their technical content, interest and relevance to the
ubiquitous computing community, communication effectiveness, and
production quality.

The video program will be playing continuously at the conference and
will be published on a DVD+R and distributed to conference attendees.

Abstracts of accepted Videos will be published in the Conference
Supplement that will be circulated to attendees at the conference.

Further Submission Details to Follow
Deadline for Submission: May 7th 2004

Workshops:

Workshops provide an opportunity to discuss and explore emerging areas
of ubiquitous computing research with a group of like-minded
researchers and practitioners. Workshops may focus on any aspect of
ubiquitous computing, established concerns or new ideas. The goal of
the workshop is to share understandings and experiences, to foster
research communities, to learn from each other and to envision future
directions.

Workshop proposals should be no longer than 4 pages in the ACM SIGCHI
conference publications format, and should include a summary of no
more than 150 words describing the theme(s) of the workshop, a longer
description of the workshop activities and goals, the background of
the organizer(s), the maximum number of participants, the means of
soliciting participation, and the means of selecting participants.

Workshops will be held on September 7th the day before the main
conference. Opportunities will be available for the outcome of
workshops to be reported to the rest of the UbiComp 2004 conference

Abstracts of accepted Workshop proposals will be published in the
Conference Supplement that will be circulated to attendees at the
conference.

Further Submission Details to Follow
Deadline for Submission: May 7th 2004
 
Posters:
 
Posters provide an opportunity for researchers to present work in a
more open format where authors interact directly with groups of
conference attendees. We especially encourage submission of
late-breaking and preliminary results, smaller results not suitable
for a full Paper, innovative ideas not yet validated through user
studies, student research, and other research best presented in this
open format.

Poster submissions should include an extended abstract of no longer
than 2 pages in the ACM SIGCHI conference publications format,
including all figures and references. Submissions may also include a
separate description of the poster for review purposes, also limited
to two pages; this description is encouraged for posters that have an
interactive or visual component that is not easily determined from the
abstract.

Accepted Poster abstracts will be published in a Conference Supplement
that will be circulated to attendees at the conference.

Further Submission Details to Follow
Deadline for Submission: June 11th 2004

Demonstrations:

We seek proposals for demonstrations of ubiquitous computing
technologies across the full milieu of everyday life: office, home,
street, park, train, automobile, bedroom, bathroom, work, play,
desktop, handheld, worn, public, private, community, individual,
shared, and personal. We welcome a wide range of submission from
scenarios involving innovative solutions of focused tasks as well as
playful pursuits. We particularly encourage demonstrations that
include participation by conference attendees and provoke discussion
about issues within the field of ubiquitous computing. All submissions
will be peer-reviewed to ensure a high quality demonstrations program.

Research prototypes, provocative concept demonstrations, and
commercial products are welcome. However, this forum is not an
opportunity for marketing or sales presentations. Presenters must have
been directly involved with the development of the system and be able
to explain the differentiating and novel contributions of the system.
Demonstrations of previously introduced technologies are welcome.


Further Submission Details to Follow
Deadline for Submission: June 11th 2004
 
Doctoral Colloquium:

The Doctoral Colloquium is a forum in which Ph.D. students can meet
and discuss their work with each other and a panel of experienced
UbiComp researchers and practitioners. We welcome applicants from a
broad range of disciplines and approaches that inform ubiquitous
computing, including computer science, engineering, cognitive science,
sociology, and related fields. Applicants should be beyond the
proposal stage and into their dissertation research. The Colloquium
committee will select approximately 10 participants who will be
expected to give short, informal presentations of their work during
the Colloquium, to be followed by a discussion.

Submissions should be no longer than 2 pages including an abstract of
no more than 100 words and a description of the work in progress. In
addition, a 2-3 paragraph biographical sketch should be supplied.
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From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Enforcing the Do Not Call List
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:02:07 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


I am on the state and national Do Not Call lists.  My local phone
company is SBC.  I changed my local and long-distance calling plans
and the net result was I lost "privacy manager" which re-directs
private callers to a service that requests their name before passing
the call along.

The change went into effect sometime today.  Between 5 and 7 pm I
received calls from three different telemarketers.

The first one came up on my CID as "Private Caller".  My wife is
traveling to a rural part of the state so I decided I had better
answer.  It was not her.

The next two were odd.  My CID came up "Incoming Call 000-000-0000".
The third caller ticked me off.  I told him I wasn't interested and
hung up.  He called back, commented on my phone manners and asked to
speak to my "mommy or daddy".  I explained to him I'm 34 years-old and
my parents live in another state.  I went on to explain I am on the
state and national do not call lists.  Before I could get that all out
he hung up on me.

I only challenged the first and third callers (the second time he called)
but in both cases when I started to tell them I was on the Do Not Call
list, they hung up.

What is our recourse?  I cannot identify these callers since they're
blocking their information.  Do I need to play along to get enough
information to report them?

Before I close let me tell you what gall some do have.  Before the
national list went into effect, but after I was on the state list, I
got a call from a local Austin number.  It was a telemarketer.  I told
him I was on the state's list and he told me he was exempted.  I asked
how and he said because he was a "registered business".  He was
selling stock tips, that's hardly a non-profit or political entity.  I
said I planned to report him and he told me to go ahead, he wasn't
afraid of the law and said the state wouldn't touch him.  I do know
the state PUC has teeth.  I was slammed a couple of years ago and the
PUC handled my complaint very quickly, not to mention had already
fined this company twice then fined them again after my complaint.


John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some of them can be just awful. Among
the worst are the telemarketers from AT&T and SBC (the companies) who
use the 'established business relationship already exists' excuse for
calling. I received several calls daily over a period of a month or
so from a North Carolina number with no name given on the caller ID
asking for a person who does not exist (or at least does not possess
the phone number of my distinctive ring-ring line). The different 
callers would call once or twice daily looking for this person, then
usually hang up rudely when they found out he was not around here.
Never any names were given. After this went on for quite a while,
I checked by caller ID and decided to call back and have a *firm*
discussion with the people. I rang the long distance number in North
Carolina only to reach a recorded message: 'This is AT&T. To reach
someone in our sales and marketing area, you must hang up and call
us at the offices listed in your phone directory.'

The good people at SBC said they could do nothing about it; after all,
they met our criteria for putting the call through, at least a phone
number was displayed even if not a name. Useless SBC!  ...  Anyway
this went on so long (even while I was talking to SBC I got a call-
waiting signal from the AT&T bunch trying to reach the mystery man)
I finally called a few numbers in New Jersey for AT&T and eventually
reached someone who knew what I was talking about and their excuse
for the repeated calls was 'we have a business relationship with 
(the mystery man) and our phone people just connect with the phone
number shown on their computer (a predictive dialer thing) and there
is no way we can remove the computer entry, so you will just keep on
getting calls. No way to control the computer, indeed!  In the course
of the conversation she finally figured out a way to 'get the computer
under control' but I had to go through hell with her matching up my
name, address and ownership of the phone number against her records.

And would you believe -- just believe and marvel at this -- before she
finally agreed that the calls would stop (in a day or two, as soon as
the files are updated), did I want to subscribe to their long distance 
service?  Imagine having brass bedsprings like that! She really thought
that despite the hassles I had had with the distinctive ring-ring line
on account of her company's calls I would be interested.  PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Habeas and Mozilla
From: Matthew Elvey <abuse@invalid.dom>
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:05:23 GMT


John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: 

> ... I'm on Habeas' nearly unpaid advisory board...

It would be nice if they'd update 
http://www.habeas.com/configurationPages/mozilla.htm !

I've emailed 'em about it thrice.  

Mozilla has supported habeas headers for months now:
http://www.elvey.com/it/HabeasHeadersInMozilla.html


Firstname@lastname . com

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage?
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:50:04 GMT


cscapella@yahoo.com (howard) posted on that vast internet thingie:

> I am about to start up a new office in which I plan on having about 4
> phones, possibly more in the future.  My question is: Is it possible
> to have only 1 phone line that can go to any extension and handle
> multiple incoming or outgoing calls simultaneously and integrate with
> Vonage?

I don't think you can get multiple conversations on one phone line
unless I am way behind the times.  I don't see how a VOIP could do
very well with just a dialup either.

Am I missing something major here?


Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Talkswitch,
Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Minuteman UPS
systems If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Vonage only supports one connection at
a time; the typical broadband (or high speed cable/DSL) hookup to the 
net just isn't large enough for more. That's why Vonage does not 
advertise or support conference calls, although I have tried it by
quickly flashing the hook, dialing a second number then doing a quick
hook flash again to join the parties and myself, i,e, a 'three-way
call'. It works, but the connection sounds like pooh. 

Now on the other hand, you *can* terminate Vonage on a multiple line
phone along with other more conventional service, and you can have
'extension' phones wired in parallel/serial behind the Vonage box, 
but with *one call/multiple participants on the same call.* I think
the Vonage ATA-186 can handle up to a REM of 3.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Dana <***@&^&.com>
Subject: Difference Between Framed and Unframed T1's
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:17:19 -0900
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


What is the difference between unframed and framed T1's? When would
you use one over the other? Which is the more common type used?


Thanks.

-- 

Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights. That
ideology coupled with a system that believed in the superiority of the
state at the expense of the individual was murderously synergistic.

------------------------------

From: Alan Burkitt-Gray <ABurkitt@EUROMONEYPLC.COM>
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:08:36 -0000


Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com> asked: 

> Some of the Military departments recently instituted a worldwide
> community services help line. One of the items that caught my eye in
> the advisory was access from overseas via an "OCONUS (Outside the
> CONtintal US) universal free phone at 800-5404-xxxx (with
> appropriate country specific toll free access codes)".  Note the
> number is 11 digits, not 10 like here in the US. I've heard of
> intra-country toll free numbers, but not this. Anyone know how this
> works, or what a country-specific-toll-free-code consists of?"

Michael, it's *not* via a local toll-free access code or local
paid-for call, but via the normal international access code for the
country you're calling from. About 5-10 years ago the International
Telecommunication (no S) Union designated +800 as a "country code",
but for international toll-free access -- in just the way that 800 in
North America is like an "area code" but for toll-free access. The +
sign in front of the ITU's code means you dial**, instead of the +,
whichever is the international access code used in that country. So in
most of the world, from Norway to New Zealand, you'd dial 00 instead
of the +, but 011 from North America, and 0011 from Australia.

In just the same way you'd dial a call to me in London, England,
(country code +44) starting 011 44 from North America, 0011 44 from
Australia and 011 44 from the US and Canada.

The idea is that a +800 xxxx xxxx number can be dialled free of charge
from anywhere in the world, and the recipient pays the tab: no local
access charges, in the same way as you wouldn't expect to feed coins
into a US payphone to dial an 800 number. In practice availability
varies from country to country and telco to telco -- though I guess
most of the world's main operators now implement it.

The system is already in use by many of the main hotel chains. For
example the Hilton group gives +800 4445 8667 on its website (the
numbers translate to +800 HHILTONS, and it's very similar to its US
toll-free number +1-800 445 8667). The Lego toy company can be dialled
from most of Europe -- except for Italy and Austria -- on +800 5346
1111 (which translates to +800 LEGO 1111). And so on.

Alan Burkitt-Gray
Editor, Global Telecoms Business
aburkitt@euromoneyplc.com

** Most GSM mobile phones allow you to dial + directly from the keypad, and
to program it into your member, and all GSM operators have to recognize it
as a valid alternative to the usual local access code. It means you can
program your phone with numbers that will work anywhere.** 

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:14:42 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Colorizing the Digest


Regular readers of this Digest know there are various ways to read the
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The other way to read via the web ( http://telecom-digest.org ) is a
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One of our very intelligent (more so than myself, at least, given the
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    CDs Will Die But Not Music May be a Business Bubble (Monty Solomon)
    Netopia Pushes Wi-Fi Cordless Phones (Monty Solomon)
    AOL Tests Caller ID For E-Mail (Monty Solomon)
    Week in Review: Copyright Fights (Monty Solomon)
    Need Telephone Selection Advice for Small Business (VITO)
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:59:42 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Suspected Movie Pirate Arrested / Charge Filed


An actor's friend is linked to unauthorized copies of 'screeners'
found on the Internet.

By Lorenza Munoz and Patrick Day, Times Staff Writers

The FBI arrested an Illinois man Thursday on criminal charges in
connection with bootlegged copies of "The Last Samurai" and other
Oscar candidates that have turned up on the Internet in recent weeks.

http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-arrest23jan23,1,4614018.story


Charge Filed in Posting of Oscar Candidates on Web

By Lorenza Munoz, Times Staff Writer

A man arrested on suspicion of helping to illegally post on the
Internet films that are being considered for Oscars was formally
charged Friday with violating Hollywood studios' copyrights.

http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-screeners24jan24,0,6309974.story

FBI agents arrest Homewood man
Suburban movie buff tied to Oscar `screeners'

By Todd Lighty and Rudolph Bush
Tribune staff reporters

A federal investigation into pirated movies abruptly shifted Thursday 
from Hollywood to south suburban Homewood, where FBI agents raided a 
house and accused its owner with posting popular films on the 
Internet.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0401230025jan23,1,4481448.story

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:07:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CDs Will Die but Net Music <ay be a Business Bubble


By Bernhard Warner, European Internet Correspondent

CANNES, France, Jan 24 (Reuters) - Music downloads will render the
ubiquitous compact disc all but obsolete in the next five years, yet
half of all companies that begin selling digital songs online will
fail by year-end, a researcher warned on Saturday.

By 2008, one third of music sales in the United States and nearly 20
percent in Europe will come in the form of downloads and streaming
music over the Internet, building a multi-billion dollar business for
the battered music industry, according to a new study by consultancy
Forrester Research.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40303076

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:26:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Netopia Pushes Wi-Fi Cordless Phones


By Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Broadband equipment maker Netopia on Friday announced a program
designed to spur manufacturers to develop more Wi-Fi cordless phones.

The company's certification program is meant to aid any Wi-Fi cordless
phone manufacturer or developer that uses the 802.11b or 802.11g Wi-Fi
standards. The program ensures Wi-Fi cordless phone interoperability
through Netopia's 3-D Reach wireless digital subscriber line and
broadband gateways.

http://news.com.com/2100-7351-5146332.html

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:28:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AOL Tests caller ID For E-Mail


By Stefanie Olsen
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

America Online is testing an antispam filter intended to accurately
trace the origin of e-mail messages, a move that could bring new
accountability to the Net if it proves reliable.

The online unit of media giant Time Warner last week implemented SPF,
or Sender Permitted From, an emerging authentication protocol for
preventing e-mail forgeries, or spoofing. The trial involves the
company's 33 million subscribers worldwide and is the first
large-scale test for the protocol, which standards groups are
considering along with various other e-mail verification proposals.

http://news.com.com/2100-1032-5145065.html

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:32:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Week in Review: Copyright Fights


By Steven Musil
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

The technology world kept court dockets full this week as the
recording industry sued hundreds of people it can't yet name, the SCO
Group got tough with rival Novell, and Microsoft got a little too
rough with a Canadian teenager.

http://news.com.com/2100-1083-5146049.html

------------------------------

From: CROPSEYIRONWORKS@AOL.COM (VITO)
Subject: Need Telephone Selection Advice for Small Business
Date: 24 Jan 2004 18:56:46 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


We are changing our current telephone service from three incoming
lines down to one line with call forwarding call, waiting, and
conferance calling. We're also adding dsl service to replace an
existing telephone line dedicated to our computors dial up. We now use
an 'AT&T Merlin System' that previously "rolled over" incoming calls,
forwarded calls, provided conferencing, and also provided our 'PA'
system.. Now with the advent of call waiting, call forwarding,
conferance calling, we really want to 'strip out' the existing system
and hope to simplify and cut service costs i.e. additional lines,
without losing any of our existing features. We operate a small
ironworks shop and due to the frequent high noise levels we installed
"phone flashers" & buzzers to the shop. Three questions. 1)What's a
good business phone with a max of two incoming lines? 2) Do 'hold'
buttons work between three extensions? Can we have intercom without
having a proprietary system included i.e. Avaya?

------------------------------

From: Paul Robinson <postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us>
Organization: elusive-butterfly.net
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:10:04 GMT


Rob wrote:

> OK, I know that this may very well seem a dumb question, but why is
> the NANP numbering system different to other phone systems throughout
> the world?

Probably because it's older than anyone else's, as the telephone system
started in the U.S. (as it was invented there simultaneously by two
different people, Bell and Gray) and was implemented here first.   If you
don't think how a system is first set up can affect things for decades or
even a century or more, look at your keyboard and realize the QWERTY
pattern was developed back in the 1880s to *slow people down* on manual
typewriters that would jam.  We're still using a system designed to slow
down people more than 120 years later, when typewriters themselves are
almost extinct.

> The vast majority of countries in the world have area codes beginning
> with '0', whereas in NANP countries the area code commences with '1',
> and then numbers on the same area code, or even numbers in
> neighbouring codes (i.e. 919, 252 and 304), aren't always regarded as
> local, as they are here in the UK.  For example, my local calling area
> not only covers my own exchange (01685) but also all numbers on the
> neighbouring exchanges of 01443, 01639, 01874 and 01495.

It depends on where you live and where you are calling.  Some nearby
places are non-toll calls, some others are not.  Again, it's
historical and has nothing to do with how much it costs to provide a
connection or how much it is worth, but was generally based on some
bargaining between the original landline telephone monopoly and the
state Public Utility Commission decades ago on how much certain calls
would cost and what would or would not be long distance.

> Also, how are calls charged between countries within NANP  --  that
> is, is a call from Canada or the US to Bermuda or Barbados regarded as
> international, even though they're technically (I think!) on the same
> phone system?

The first three digits of a NANP (North America except Mexico and
Cuba) phone number determine what country it is in, and if it's the
U.S. or Canada, the state or province as well.  The next three digits
determine the 'rate center' where the called subscriber is presumed to
be located.  Note this is a total fiction if the phone number is a
service code such as toll-free 800, 888, 877, 866 etc., premium 900,
carrier 700, or personal 500. And it's merely the location for
terminating billing purposes if the number is a mobile phone, which is
why when a friend of mine called my Sprint PCS number when I was on
vacation with my family in Niagara Falls a couple of years ago, the
phone rang when I had it with me in Canada even though the phone
number is a Virginia 703 area code.  The call terminated in Canada,
the caller was charged for a call to Virginia even though the network
may have routed it directly to me without it ever even going to
Virginia.

For calls from wired telephones, the rate structure is generally as
follows: All dialed calls are based on two factors, the first 6 digits
of the caller and the first 6 digits of the called party.  Given that,
you have any of the following possible rate structures: (1) intrastate
local call, which may or may not be free, or may be a message unit;
(2) interstate local call; (3) intrastate intra-LATA toll call which
may or may not be free depending on whether the user has paid for
extended area service; and may be more expensive than one outside the
state; (4) intra-LATA interstate toll call; (5) inter-LATA interstate
toll call, which might be cheaper than an intrastate toll call or even
an intra-LATA interstate toll call, again because of the original
negotiated rates between the original monopoly provider (now referred
to as an ILEC) and the state regulatory authorities (or the FCC if the
local or intra-LATA calling area crossed a state line when it was
first established) and (6) international calls, which are subject to
whatever rate the telephone company that provides the call has
negotiated with the terminating long distance company in that country
(or the government there in some cases.)

This means, for example, that back in 1994 I was calling a BBS in
Rockville, Maryland from Arlington, Virginia, which is a 60-kilometer
long, interstate, intra-LATA toll call.  Had I been 4 miles north in
Washington, DC it would have been an interstate local call.  I was
charged 13c a minute for that call.  Had a called a number in Los
Angeles, it would have been a 6,000 kilometer long, interstate,
inter-LATA toll call and charged out at 7c a minute.

The cost for any call is simply whatever it was set in the past, has
nothing to do with what it costs to provide or where it is going or
how far, and it only changes because someone figures out they either
can make more money by charging less and encouraging more usage, or
they have to charge less because a competitor comes in, realizes the
incumbent is ripping people off and they can do the same but make a
lot of money by being less greedy and undercuts their exorbitant
rates.


Paul Robinson  "Above all else... We shall go on..."

"...And continue!"
"If the lessons of history teach us anything it is
that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us."

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Time Is Right For Home Network Appliances, Gadgets
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:00:25 -0500
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> posted on that vast internet thingie:

> Salton calls its stainless steel clock a "home hub." It was one of 
> many master control systems on display here designed to give people a 
> unified way to manage the explosion of new digital devices being 
> hooked up to home networks.

What frequency does it use?


Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
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Reply-To: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! was Re: Enforcing the Do Not Call List
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:37:18 -0500


Pat,

    That's normal gall, not out of the ordinary gall.  I once demanded
to speak to a telemarketer's supervisor (we had been on the national
do not call list for more than the required amount of time).  When I
spoke to the supervisor, I explained to him that the call was in total
violation of the new anti-telemarketing laws.  I threatened to make a
complaint with the FTC if he didn't make sure I wouldn't be called
again.  He was all upset after the way I chewed him out, but before
hanging up, he started to give me a pitch (still in his shaken up tone
of voice, by the way).

    I told him that if I was interested in his service I certainly
wouldn't be demanding they not call me again.  After reminding him
that I better not hear from his company again and taking his name, I
hung up.  We've never heard from that company again.  But, they just
have no shame.

    Actually, since the new DNC law went into effect, we've not
received more than three or four calls, and we just tell them to put
us on the DNC list and not call back (warning them that they've
violated the DNC list).

    About eight or ten years ago, someone was circulating an obviously
fictitious story over the Internet about the man who purchased a
bronze statue of a rat.  The seller sold him the rat for ten dollars
and said the story that goes with it would be another thousand.

    The man declined the story and took the rat out of the store.  As
he walked along, all of the rats started coming out of the sewer and
chased him down the avenue.  He began to run and continued to run all
the way to the waterfront.  The farther he ran, the more rats were
following him.

    When he got to the waterfront, he climbed up on a lampost and
heaved the bronze rat into the bay.  All of the rats dived into the
water after it and drowned.

    After a while, the man climbed down from the lamp post and
returned to the store.  The manager asked him if he had returned to
get the story that went with the rat.

    He said no.  He wanted a bronze statue of a telemarketer.


Fred

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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Cellular Disconnect (Monty Solomon)
    Politics of the Web: Meet, Greet, Segregate, Meet Again (Monty Solomon)
    Airlines Weigh How to Alert Passengers to Disclosure Rules (M Solomon)
    That Gibberish in Your In-Box May Be Good News (Monty Solomon)
    DISH Network $999 HDTV Promo (Monty Solomon)
    Amazon.com's Latest Product Category: Politicians (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers (Joseph)
    Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers (Paul Robinson)
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:39:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cellular Disconnect


Congress tried to help. But major wireless carriers still find 
themselves snared in legal fights with towns over erecting towers to 
plug 'dead spots' in service.

By Peter J. Howe, Globe Staff, 1/25/2004

CONCORD -- For years, it was known as one of the most excruciating 
wireless valleys of death.

Rounding the downhill curve on Route 2 headed from Lincoln toward
Walden Pond, mobile phone customers of most wireless carriers -- but
particularly AT&T Wireless Services Inc. -- could count on losing
whatever connection they had, with virtually no hope of reconnecting
for at least another mile.

Starting in early 1998, AT&T began seeking a location for a cellular
tower to fill in this notorious "dead spot." It soon turned into a
protracted battle between the carrier, Concord officials, and Walden
Woods preservation activists committed to salvaging a town dump where
town officials first recommended building a cell tower. Only after
AT&T won a federal lawsuit did the town let the carrier erect a tower
disguised as a chunky flagpole next to a Mobil gas station.

It took four years.

The (wireless) battle of Concord exemplifies the kind of contentious,
litigation-riddled process Congress hoped to eliminate when it rewrote
federal telecommunications laws in 1996. The idea was to let local
officials partially regulate -- but not forbid outright -- siting of
new towers that are crucial to ensuring the nation's 154 million
cellphone owners can get more reliable service.

But over the past four years, five big national wireless carriers have
brought more than 100 lawsuits in US District Court in Boston --
several of which dragged on through appeals -- to get cell-tower
installations approved, a Boston Globe review has found.

While the pace of lawsuits filed has dropped to about half the number
brought in 2000, carriers still head to court on average every 18 days
to try to overturn rejections by local officials. More than 20 suits
are currently pending.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/01/25/cellular_disconnect/

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:46:43 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Politics of the Web: Meet, Greet, Segregate, Meet Again


Politics of the Web: Meet, Greet, Segregate, Meet Again

By AMY HARMON
January 25, 2004

THAT the Internet is newly teeming with grass-roots political
activists of all stripes is one of the truisms of this campaign
season. But to Melissa Kramer, a Wesley Clark supporter who spends
hours online every day, it doesn't feel that way.

On Ms. Kramer's Internet, the politics are all General Clark, all the 
time. As soon as she drops her children off at school, Ms. Kramer 
logs on to Clark04.com, the official campaign Web log, to check the 
campaign press releases. Then it's on to the Clark "community" blogs, 
to post information about local Clark news in Dayton, Ohio, and read 
the views of other Clark supporters around the country. Later, she 
might visit the Web log of the film director Michael Moore, who 
recently endorsed General Clark.

The only time Ms. Kramer comes across, say, a Dean supporter is when 
one ventures onto the Clark Web site's discussion area. These 
partisan visitors, known among political bloggers as "trolls," are 
typically seen as trying to disrupt productive discussion, and 
regulars know to shun them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/weekinreview/25harm.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:13:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Airlines Weigh How to Alert Passengers to Disclosure Rules


By Sara Kehaulani Goo, Washington Post, 1/25/2004

WASHINGTON -- Major US carriers are scrambling to create disclosure
policies that inform customers they might share personal data with the
federal government, in response to two highly publicized cases in
which airlines secretly handed over private passenger information.

The airlines are working swiftly to alert passengers and protect
themselves from liability as the US government is poised to force the
carriers as early as next month to turn over data as part of a
computerized passenger screening program called CAPPS II.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/25/airlines_weigh_how_to_alert_passengers_to_disclosure_rules/

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:48:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: That Gibberish in Your In-Box May Be Good News


SP@M SHEN@NIG@NS!!

By GEORGE JOHNSON
January 25, 2004

IF you could sit back with Zen-like detachment and observe the dross
piling up in your electronic mailbox, the spam wars might come to seem
like a fascinating electronic game. Like creatures running through a
maze with constantly shifting walls, spammers dart and weave to sneak
their solicitations past ever wilier junk mail filters. They are
organisms, or maybe genomes, grinding out one random mutation after
another, desperately trying to elude the Grim Reaper.

Viagra becomes "vi@gra" or "v-i-@-g-r-a." Then, as the filters adapt,
"v1@gr@" and even "\/l@gr@." Currently, the Internet is swarming with
mutants like this: "Cheap Val?(u)m, Viagr@, X(a)n@x, Som@ Di3t Pills
Many M3ds RIZfURqgHr77B," the final string of gibberish hanging like
an appendage of junk DNA.

Taking a different approach, a come-on for barnyard pornography
devolves into "faurm galz bing e rottic." Another pitch promises to
reveal "Seakrets of ((eks-eks-eks)) stars."

Dispiriting as it is to start the morning with a hundred of these
orthographic monsters crouching in your in-box, there is reason to
take heart. Measured in bits and bytes, the sheer volume of spam may
not have diminished. But advanced filtering software, which learns to
recognize the mercurial traits of junk e-mail, is having an effect.
The spammers' messages are becoming harder and harder to decipher.
Sense is inevitably degenerating into nonsense, like a pileup of
random mutations in an endangered species gasping its last breaths.

Earlier this month, when Internet experts met in Cambridge, Mass., 
for the 2004 Spam Conference (available as a Web broadcast at 
spamconference.org), they showed just how far the science of spam 
fighting has come. For all the recent talk of suing spammers and 
compiling a national do-not-spam list, most speakers were putting 
their hopes in technological, not legal solutions. The federal 
government's new junk e-mail law, the Can Spam Act, barely rated a 
mention.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/weekinreview/25john.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:10:52 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: DISH Network $999 HDTV Promo


http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/products/system/

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:34:49 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Amazon.com's Latest Product Category: Politicians


By Reed Stevenson

SEATTLE, Jan 24 (Reuters) - Shoppers at online retailer Amazon.com
Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN) can now spend money on something new -- U.S. 
presidential candidates.

A new feature that debuted on Friday collects campaign
contributions of up to $200 for U.S. presidential candidates.

The Seattle, Washington-based retailer, which claims 37 million active
accounts, said on its Web site that it is "trying to take the friction
out of grassroots contributions to presidential candidates."

For that reason, Amazon said it is not endorsing any candidates and is
charging each campaign its usual processing fees for the payments,
which it will donate to a non-profit, non-partisan civil group.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40302224

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:09:25 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:57:13 -0500, Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
wrote:

> One of the items that caught my eye in the advisory was access from
> overseas via an "OCONUS (Outside the CONtintal US) universal free
> phone at 800-5404-xxxx (with appropriate country specific toll free
> access codes)".  Note the number is 11 digits, not 10 like here in
> the US. I've heard of intra-country toll free numbers, but not
> this. Anyone know how this works, or what a country-specific-toll-
> free-code consists of?

International "free phone" is sort of "country code 800."  You access
it the same way you access any other international call.  If you were
in North America you'd dial 011-800-NXXX XXXX.  If you were in Europe
you'd dial 00-800-NXXX XXXX if you were in Australia you'd dial
0011-800-NXXX XXXX.  It's like other national free phone/toll-free
that the end party pays for the cost of the call.  I don't think it's
possible to make international freephone calls from mobile phones.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

------------------------------

From: Paul Robinson <postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us>
Organization: elusive-butterfly.net
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:38:15 GMT


Alan Burkitt-Gray wrote:

> The idea is that a +800 xxxx xxxx number can be dialed free of
> charge from anywhere in the world.  The system is already in use by
> many of the main hotel chains. For example the Hilton group gives
> +800 4445 8667 on its website (the numbers translate to +800
> HHILTONS, and it's very similar to its US toll-free number +1-800
> 445 8667).

The number 011-800-4445-8667# when dialed from an Arlington, Virginia
home telephone produced a US style ring, and after about 10 or 12
rings went to a recording identifying itself as Hilton Honors, in
essence I was being put into a queue.  I hung up, having confirmed
that the numbers do work here.

When I tried dialing it from my Sprint PCS phone (without the # since
you send all the digits before you push 'send'), I got the recording
"Your account is not authorized to make calls to this number" so it
implies that Sprint isn't aware of it yet or doesn't know how to
authorize that 'country code' to be considered a local call.

This at least confirms that international 800 numbers can be dialed
from U.S.  wireline locations (presuming they include US access for
the particular number.)

--
Paul Robinson  "Above all else... We shall go on..."
"...And continue!"
"If the lessons of history teach us anything it is
that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us."

------------------------------

From: Mark@fonehometomars.com
Subject: Cingular and LNP
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:03:48 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


I signed on to Cingular last December 12, switching from Verizon
Wireless.  I ported my wife's Verizon number fairly easily.  But, it
is 6 weeks later and I have hit a stone wall in trying to get my
qualified land-line number ported to my Cingular number.

The customer service is nonexistent.  There is no effective escalation
process.  I finely located the name and address of the Senior VP of
Customer Service in Alanta and wrote her about it at the end of
December.

Nada.

I filed an FCC informal complaint at the end of December but those move
like glaciers.

I see were the California PUC fined Cingular over $12 million recently
for lousy customer service.

Apparently, stonewalled arrogance is the model for Cingular.

------------------------------

From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Need Telephone Selection Advice for Small Business
Reply-To: cnavarro@wcnet.org
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:03:27 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


On 24 Jan 2004 18:56:46 -0800, CROPSEYIRONWORKS@AOL.COM (VITO) wrote:

> We are changing our current telephone service from three incoming
> lines down to one line with call forwarding call, waiting, and
> conferance calling. We're also adding dsl service to replace an
> existing telephone line dedicated to our computors dial up. We now use
> an 'AT&T Merlin System' that previously "rolled over" incoming calls,
> forwarded calls, provided conferencing, and also provided our 'PA'
> system.. Now with the advent of call waiting, call forwarding,
> conferance calling, we really want to 'strip out' the existing system
> and hope to simplify and cut service costs i.e. additional lines,
> without losing any of our existing features. We operate a small
> ironworks shop and due to the frequent high noise levels we installed
> "phone flashers" & buzzers to the shop. Three questions. 1)What's a
> good business phone with a max of two incoming lines? 2) Do 'hold'
> buttons work between three extensions? Can we have intercom without
> having a proprietary system included i.e. Avaya?

1.  Just round up the usual suspects.  Panasonic makes a 2-line phone
with intercom (kxt-3282) for about $110 retail.  You can also get into
the corded/cordless models.

2.  Yes.		

3.  Yes

I don't know how much traffic you have on your phone lines, but you're
making a huge mistake to go to a single line with CF/CW/and
Conferencing.  Call Waiting and Conferencing are mutually exclusive.
In fact, Call Waiting and Hold are exclusive.  Save call waiting for
your residence line and put either voice mail or a second line in, or
just go with a single line.  

I have one of those 2 line offices.  If I'm on the phone, I can put
the caller on hold and answer the second line or ignore it and let it
fall to voice mail.  I have CID enabled so that I can see who is
calling on the other line which also helps me determing if I want to
break my current call.

When you install Call Waiting, you give up all the options.  Since the
outside party is hearing a ring, you HAVE to answer the CW or the
person calling will think you're out of business.  That's pretty rude
to the caller you're talking to.  

Lastly, why would you want to take out a working phone system?  If
you're under a lease or maintenance agreement, it's time to look for
something newer.  If you own the system, eBay is full of Partner/
Merlin/Legend equipment that doesn't take a rocket scientist to tall.
You can usually pick up a system with 3 or 4 phones for less than $300.


Carl Navarro

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Need Telephone Selection Advice for Small Business
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:12:44 GMT


CROPSEYIRONWORKS@AOL.COM (VITO) posted on that vast internet thingie:

> We are changing our current telephone service from three incoming
> lines down to one line with call forwarding call, waiting, and
> conferance calling. We're also adding dsl service to replace an
> existing telephone line dedicated to our computors dial up. We now use
> an 'AT&T Merlin System' that previously "rolled over" incoming calls,
> forwarded calls, provided conferencing, and also provided our 'PA'
> system. Now with the advent of call waiting, call forwarding,
> conferance calling, we really want to 'strip out' the existing system
> and hope to simplify and cut service costs i.e. additional lines,
> without losing any of our existing features. We operate a small
> ironworks shop and due to the frequent high noise levels we installed
> "phone flashers" & buzzers to the shop. Three questions. 1)What's a
> good business phone with a max of two incoming lines? 2) Do 'hold'
> buttons work between three extensions? Can we have intercom without
> having a proprietary system included i.e. Avaya?

You may need a 4 line system to get the features that you need and
want, but that should not be a problem.   I invite you to have a 
look at our TMC ET4000 system http://www.sellcom.com/tmc.html

We like it so well we use it here at SELLCOM.  We also can have
cordless phones integrated to the TMC.  We are using the new 5.8GHz
Motorola cordless phones.

Another nice system but possibly more than you need is the Talkswitch
system.


Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Talkswitch,
Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Minuteman UPS
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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Telecom Update (Canada) #417, January 26, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Group to Battle Sprint (Monty Solomon)
    The Most Hated Company In Tech (Monty Solomon)
    Why SCO's McBride Declared War (Monty Solomon)
    Linus Torvalds: SCO Is "Just Too Wrong" (Monty Solomon)
    Re: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question (Paul Robinson)
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Subject: Telecom Update (Canada) #417, January 26, 2004



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IN THIS ISSUE:

** Nortel to Quit Manufacturing
** Kedar Buys Broadband Wireless Licences
** Microcell and Telus in Court Battles
** Call-Net Wants Primus VoIP Reviewed
** Rogers to Offer Five-Mbps Service
** Shaw Optimistic About VoIP
** Telcos, ISPs Form Anti-Spam Group
** AOL May Offer IP Phone Service
** AT&T Wireless for Sale
** BT Launches Canadian Unit
** Cities File Appeal Application
** SaskTel Proposes Rural Business Rate Increases
** Wireless Boom Continues
** Bell Microlink Rates Go Up
** Coalition to Oppose Foreign Ownership
** Microcell Seeks Debt Refinancing
** Lucent Revenue, Profits Rise
** AT&T Profits Drop 34%
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NORTEL TO QUIT MANUFACTURING: Nortel Networks says it plans to sell
its remaining plants and inventory to Singapore-based Flextronics
International for about US$500 million. The move will affect 1,500
employees in Calgary and Montreal.

KEDAR BUYS BROADBAND WIRELESS LICENCES: Mobilexchange Spectrum, a
company controlled by Mike Kedar, has acquired the assets of WNI
Networks, including 400 MHz of 24 GHz broadband wireless spectrum in
Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Edmonton, and Calgary. WNI,
formerly Wispra, purchased the spectrum for $74 million in the 1999
auction, but has not deployed services. Industry Canada has approved
the licence transfer.

** WNI's shareholders, TD Capital and XO International, are now
   minority shareholders in Kedar's company.

MICROCELL AND TELUS IN COURT BATTLES: In a claim filed January 15,
Microcell has asked the B.C. Supreme Court for an injunction to ensure
that its roaming connection to Telus Mobility's analog network is not
cut. According to the filing, Telus Mobility has accused Microcell of
violating its connection agreement by promoting City Fido as a
home-phone replacement service.

** Meanwhile, Microcell has asked the Quebec Superior Court
   to find Telus Mobility in contempt for violating
   injunctions, issued in November and December, that order
   it to stop a telemarketing campaign targeting Microcell
   customers.

CALL-NET WANTS PRIMUS VoIP REVIEWED: Call-Net Telecommunications has
asked the CRTC to investigate Primus's TalkBroadband local phone
service. It says that Primus appears to be operating as a Competitive
Local Exchange Carrier, but has not registered and is not providing
9-1-1 service, which CLECs must do.

ROGERS TO OFFER FIVE-MBPS SERVICE: Rogers Cable will soon launch a
premium Internet access service in Ontario and New Brunswick,
providing speeds of up to 5 Mbps. Rogers' current 3 Mbps service will
remain unchanged.

** Rogers also plans to offer Internet access bundled with an
    array of Yahoo products and services, including enhanced
    e-mail and spam control.

SHAW OPTIMISTIC ABOUT VoIP: Shaw Communications says its
preliminary analysis of the feasibility of IP telephony is
encouraging, with capital cost estimates being lower than
anticipated. The company says it expects to "be in a position
to decide whether to proceed" by August 2004.

** Shaw reports revenue of $521 million for the quarter ended
   November 30. Net income was $20 million, compared to a net
   loss of $19 million a year earlier.

TELCOS, ISPs FORM ANTI-SPAM GROUP: Twenty telcos and ISPs from Canada,
the U.S., and Japan have formed a "Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group"
to collaborate on developing carrier-class spam protection. Bell
Canada and Telus are founding members of the group, which was
initiated by Openwave Systems.

www.openwave.com/messaging-anti-abuse-working-group

AOL MAY OFFER IP PHONE SERVICE: According to the Financial Post, AOL
Canada is now testing an Internet telephony service which it hopes to
roll out commercially by mid-year.

AT&T WIRELESS FOR SALE: AT&T Wireless, the third-largest U.S. cellular
carrier, has decided "to explore the company's strategic
alternatives." It has retained advisors to help it seek and evaluate
takeover offers.

** The company lost $84 million in the fourth quarter, and
   its monthly churn level rose to 3.3%.

** Published reports speculate that AT&T Wireless may sell
   its 33% stake in Rogers Wireless.

BT LAUNCHES CANADIAN UNIT: BT Canada, launched at a Toronto meeting
for potential customers last week, says it is now actively selling
international network services to multi- nationals based in Canada.

www.btcanada.net

CITIES FILE APPEAL APPLICATION: Last week, the Federation of Canadian
Municipalities and several major cities applied to the Federal Court
for leave to appeal CRTC Telecom Decision 2003-82 (see Telecom Update
#411). They wish to contest the CRTC's right to amend existing
agreements between municipalities and carriers.

SASKTEL PROPOSES RURAL BUSINESS RATE INCREASES: SaskTel wants to raise
rates for business lines and Centrex II service in all but the nine
largest exchanges in the province, to take effect March 1.

www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2004/S22.htm#200400325

WIRELESS BOOM CONTINUES: Statistics Canada reports that wireless
revenues grew 13.4% in Q3 2003, and wireless profits ($543 million)
now account for a third of all telecom service profits in Canada.
Wireline revenues dropped 4% in the quarter, though profits increased
slightly to $1.1 Billion.

www.statcan.ca/english/IPS/Data/56-002-XIE.htm

BELL MICROLINK RATES GO UP: The CRTC has approved rate increases of
6%-10% for Bell Canada's Centrex Microlink access, effective March 1.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Orders/2004/o2004-28.htm

COALITION TO OPPOSE FOREIGN OWNERSHIP: Trade unions and cultural
groups have joined to "combat the threat of foreign ownership of our
country's telephone and broadcast industries." Participants at the
founding meeting included the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers
Union, the Telecommunications Workers Union, ACTRA, the Friends of
Canadian Broadcasting, and the Council of Canadians.

** A survey commissioned by the CEP found that 68% of those
   polled were opposed to increased foreign ownership of
   Canada's telcos.

MICROCELL SEEKS DEBT REFINANCING: Microcell Telecom has begun
negotiations to persuade lenders to refinance $450 million of debt on
more favorable terms.

LUCENT REVENUE, PROFITS RISE: Lucent Technologies had Worldwide
September-December revenues of US$2.26 billion, 9% higher than a year
earlier. Wireless sales rose 32%; wireline sales fell 7%. Net income:
$338 million.

** Lucent foresees no significant revenue increase in 2004.

AT&T PROFITS DROP 34%: AT&T Corp.'s profit fell 34% in the last three
months of 2003. Total revenue for the year was US$34.5 billion, an
8.7% drop from 2002. The company is predicting a further revenue
decline of 7% to 10% this year.

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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Group to Battle Sprint
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:14:37 -0500


WATERTOWN

Neighbors against plan for antennas

By Christina Pazzanese, Globe Correspondent, 1/25/2004

Still reeling from the Town Council's decision to settle its 
four-year legal battle with Sprint, irate residents vow they'll now 
take up the fight to stop the cellular giant from installing six 
antennas in the middle of a densely populated neighborhood.

Sprint sought a special permit from the town's zoning board in 1999 to
install the cellular antennas on the roof of St. Joseph's Hall on
Rosary Drive, but was rejected. The company then filed suit against
the town and the board seeking a reversal in US District Court in
Boston. Town Manager Michael Driscoll announced Jan. 14 that, upon
advice of attorneys, the town had decided to give up the fight.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/01/25/group_to_battle_sprint/

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:48:37 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Most Hated Company In Tech


The Most Hated Company In Tech

SCO's huge Linux suit against IBM is a long shot that may yield 
nothing but bile.

He can't say he wasn't warned. In June, 2002, when Darl McBride was
getting ready to take over as chief executive at struggling Caldera
International Inc. in Lindon, Utah -- later renamed SCO Group Inc. --
he mused that claiming ownership of some of the underlying code in the
popular Linux computer operating system could keep the company
afloat. Even though Caldera's revenues were declining, it was losing
$5 million per quarter, and its stock had slid below the $1 NASDAQ
delisting price, the reaction of outgoing CEO Ransom Love was
instantaneous. "Don't do it," Love says he told McBride. "You don't
want to take on the entire Linux community."

McBride did it anyway. Last March, he shook up the computer world by
filing a $3 billion suit against tech giant IBM ( IBM ), claiming Big
Blue had illegally inserted more than 800,000 lines of SCO-owned
software code into Linux. Since then, McBride has turned up the heat.
In December, SCO sent letters to more than 1,000 Linux customers
accusing them of illegally using SCO's property. Now, the company
warns that it will sue a Linux user within days. One potential target,
SCO says, is Internet search phenom Google Inc. The company, which
says it has not talked to SCO about its claims, uses Linux computers
and is on the verge of its initial public offering.

As a result of all this, SCO has become the most hated company in the
tech world, surpassing, at least temporarily, Microsoft Corp. SCO has
infuriated dozens of businesses and thousands of volunteer programmers
who helped Linux become the world's second-most-popular operating
system for server computers, with tens of millions of copies in use,
trailing only Microsoft's ( MSFT ) Windows. Linux is open-source
software: free in its most basic form and owned by no one. Many of the
tech world's top companies -- including IBM, Hewlett-Packard ( HPQ ),
and Dell ( DELL ) -- have hitched on to this rocket. For its most
ardent fans, no words are too harsh for SCO.  "They're a cornered rat,
and I think they have rabies to boot," jabs the normally mild-mannered
Linus Torvalds, who started Linux as a college student in 1991.

The retribution against SCO has been fast and furious -- a volley of
arrows from all sides. Since it sued IBM, SCO has been slapped with
two countersuits, one by IBM and the other by Red Hat Inc. ( RHAT ),
the largest seller of Linux software. SCO's Web site has been shut
down three times by hackers. And McBride has even received death
threats. One was so unnerving that SCO's security had a sharpshooter
in the room when McBride spoke at a tech conference in Las Vegas in
December. "The theater of this -- it's sort of beyond belief for all
of us," he says.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_05/b3868104_mz063.htm

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:50:02 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Why SCO's McBride Declared War


Online Extra: Why SCO's McBride Declared War

Says the CEO about Linux: "It wasn't like we said, 'Oh, let's go find
people and sue them.' It was a gradual enforcement of our rights"

You have to give SCO Group ( SCOX ) CEO Darl McBride credit for one
thing: He's got moxie. Since moving into the corner office at the tiny
Utah software company in June, 2002, McBride has taken on the software
world. In March, 2003, he sued IBM ( IBM ) for $3 billion, claiming
Big Blue handed over SCO-owned intellectual property to software
programmers who developed the increasingly popular Linux software. Now
he's threatening to sue a major company that uses Linux to run its
computers, and may be just days away from doing so.

BusinessWeek Correspondent Jim Kerstetter recently spoke with McBride
in SCO's offices beneath the snow-capped Wasatch Mountains. Here are
edited excerpts of that interview:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_05/b3868109_mz063.htm

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:54:21 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Linus Torvalds: SCO Is "Just Too Wrong"


The originator of the Linux OS has sharp words for SCO's "cornered
rat" claims of intellectual-property infringement.

If anyone knows what's in Linux, it's Linus Torvalds. He did the first
work on the open-source operating system while a student at the
University of Helsinki, and he managed the often chaotic process of
building it with other programmers. Now, SCO Group ( SCOX ), a small
Utah software company, claims Linux is trampling on intellectual
property rights it inherited from Novell ( NOVL ), which got them from
AT&T ( T). In an e-mail interview with BusinessWeek Correspondent Jim
Kerstetter , Torvalds explains why he thinks SCO is wrong. The
following are edited excerpts from that interview:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_05/b3868110_mz063.htm

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From: Paul Robinson <postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us>
Organization: elusive-butterfly.net
Subject: Re: 800-555-1140 was Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:46:51 GMT


Dr. Joel M. Hoffman wrote:

> > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That toll free number, 800-555-1140
> > also works fine here in my town. I bet it will for everyone. PAT]

> Hmm.  Just tried it from a cell phone, and the ANI was *not* my cell
> number.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried *my* cellular phone also from
> here, and it did not return correct results either. However my
> Vonage phone did have the correct results, and my wireline phone as
> well.

> From my home phone, the ANI was 00 plus the correct number.
> From my Sprint PCS cell phone, the ANI was 61 plus the correct number.

I think Sprint has fixed something, because a few months ago, calling
MCI's customer service at 800-444-4444 from my cell phone, which has a
Falls Church, Virginia 703 area code exchange, was being read back as
a Maryland 301 area code number.  MCI's 444 number now correctly
reports back my true area code 703 Sprint PCS number.


Paul Robinson  "Above all else... We shall go on..."
"...And continue!"
"If the lessons of history teach us anything it is
that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us."

------------------------------

From: Paul Robinson <postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us>
Organization: elusive-butterfly.net
Subject: Re: Analog Phone Line Question
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:58:19 GMT


Dmitry wrote:

> I have a live analog telephone line and can dial out just fine, but I
> don't know what the phone number is to dial in. Is there a number I
> can dial in Washington D.C area that would tell me the number I am
> calling from?

Verizon uses 811 in Virginia and I believe it was using it in Maryland
and it might work in DC.  When they bought up GTE of Virginia
(formerly Contel) a few years ago, which used 211, for a time they had
both numbers work on the Verizon network, now only 811 works.  It
reads back only the last 7 digits.

Of course, there is still the old standbys of 1010732-1-770-988-9664 and
1-800-555-1140, and MCI Customer Service at 1-800-444-4444.


Paul Robinson  "Above all else... We shall go on..."
"...And continue!"
"If the lessons of history teach us anything it is
that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us."

------------------------------

From: DaveC <me@privacy.net>
Subject: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:07:46 -0800
Reply-To: me@privacy.net


How difficult would it be to spoof a message that seemed like it came
from an ISP's mail server? I'd like this technique to discourage some
people from sending mail to me.

The message doesn't have to be perfect, just such that to the
untrained eye it looks like the recipient's address (mine) doesn't
exist and the host mail server is informing the sender of such.

Suggestions?

Thanks,

DaveC
me@privacy.net
This is an invalid return address
Please reply in the news group


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Really not a problem at all. I use a
software package called 'Mail Washer' which does that. When you want
to receive your email, instead of using your email client, you use
Mail Washer. It POPS into your various accounts, grabs all the mail
and displays only a line of each item; who from, date and subject.
Then you train it what you consider spam and what is legitmate, and
you click little boxes next to each piece of mail for accept, spam,
blacklist, and bounce. Then you click 'process mail'. The mail
accepted is brought to your mail client and displayed in the usual
way. Mail which is considered spam just disappears from the servers
when you confirm your click by processing mail. Anything you tell Mail
Washer to bounce and blacklist gets returned to the sender with a very
realistic looking notice from postmaster@your.site saying no such
user.  You do have to work to set it up properly at first, since
sometimes on outgoing mail you need to 'authenticate user' with a
password, etc to be able to send mail through a particular server. 
And of course some email arrives with a bogus return address to start
with, so you have to take care on mail you simply want to destroy
undread versus that you want to blacklist and bounce. Not a bad
program however; its easier to get rid of several dozen pieces of 
junk with a check mark on a single line instead of having to accept
all the mail, scan through it and zap what is junk. And it saves
your own wastebasket file from having to fill up and then get
emptied out.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:12:38 -0600
From: Christopher Wolf <temp18@thewolfden.org>
Subject: Telecom News in TELECOM Digest


No offense, but I read other sources of news, and I see the stuff
below in several places where it's accurately sorted by topic.  I read
Telecom Digest to get *telecom* related information, not the latest
Dish TV "special" or what Amazon is doing this week.  Just a simple
comment.

-W

> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:10:52 -0500
> From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
> Subject: DISH Network $999 HDTV Promo

>   http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/products/system/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And no offense taken. Monty Solomon is
a sort of exceptional case among my various correspondents. He works 
for free, mind you, with his e-press clipping service, sending me just
tons of good items for the Digest, stuff I would never be able to sit
around investigating and looking at own my own given my own limited
resources. Not all strictly, absolutely telecom related, except often
times in a very peripheral way. At one point in time -- maybe until a
year ago more or less -- I was simply taking all his material and
running it as one large 'column' of news in each issue. But then
several readers suggested breaking his stuff into individusl items, 
as he sent it, and run each piece separately, so that people could 
quickly sort through it and take only want they wanted to read, and
after some discussion here in the Digest, that is how it wound up 
coming down. Use your key to move forward and skip what of his was
not wanted. 

To improve on this plan slightly, last week with the help of a
reader jmat (a guy named Mattox out of Madison, WI I think)
we 'colorized' the web-based newsletter published here in the
http://telecom-digest.org 'latest issue' file, making the subject
lines come out in red and emphasized slightly, so that people who 
choose to read that version and can slide their mouse rapidly down 
the screen picking through things to read (a lot like when you can
through a printed newspaper and scan for headlines of interest), they
can speed right along looking for the occassional red emphasized line
of print. Likewise, the notes I insert from time to time (too often
and too long in the opinion of some readers) are also offset with a
different color for the few of you who like to read my words of
wisdom (or tons of balogna if you prefer, so you can skip over those
as well.) The coloring is only for that file, which is usually set
in place with a 'pre' command and dismissed with a '/pre' command at
the end of each issue. The coloring is not in the archives, and not
on this ascii-text based edition many of you are reading now. I hope
that helps many of you sort through what you want and don't want to
see in the Digest each issue.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:52:45 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers


Sunday, January 25, 2004, 4:45:03 PM, Paul Robinson wrote:

> The number 011-800-4445-8667# when dialed from an Arlington,
> Virginia home telephone produced a US style ring, and after about 10
> or 12 rings went to a recording identifying itself as Hilton Honors,
> in essence I was being put into a queue.  I hung up, having
> confirmed that the numbers do work here.

> When I tried dialing it from my Sprint PCS phone (without the #
> since you send all the digits before you push 'send'), I got the
> recording "Your account is not authorized to make calls to this
> number" so it implies that Sprint isn't aware of it yet or doesn't
> know how to authorize that 'country code' to be considered a local
> call.

> This at least confirms that international 800 numbers can be dialed
> from U.S.  wireline locations (presuming they include US access for
> the particular number.)

I just made some attempts to dial that number from Calgary, Alberta,
Canada and got sorta the opposite results.

First, tried it from my Telus Mobility PCS phone.  I have *NOT*
activated international calling.  If I tried dialing somebody in the
UK at 011-44-number, I'd get that same "not authorized" recording you
got.  But dialing the 011-800 number quoted above goes through without
any problems.

So I tried it from my home phone, which is Telus dialtone and Primus
Canada selected as my default long distance carrier.  Dialing this
number results in about a 5 second delay, then a fast-busy signal.

However, if I precede this call with "1010323" (which is Telus Long
Distance's dial-around code), the call goes through.

I also have an account with Wintel.  This is a low-tech long-distance
service: you dial a local 7-digit number, you get a second dialtone,
and you dial your long distance number from there.  If the number is
overseas, you precede the call with "999" - so in this case it would
be 999-800-4445-8667.  I get as far as the "5" before the Wintel
platform starts beeping its call rejection tone at me.


Joey Lindstrom
see TD-EXTRA at http://td-extra.interocitor.net

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From: kimbrennan@aol.comfrtz.com (KimBrennan)
Date: 26 Jan 2004 03:44:30 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL


> BTW, how much would you pay for AOL ADSL in the US?  Or any other
> ISP on ADSL for that matter.

I'd pay $60 a month. If I could get DSL (any flavor). But in WV, the
poorest in the nation, forget about high speed internet in most of the
state.


"I'm sorry, all my money is tied up in currency."
W.C.Fields

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Question From PAT Re: Pictures From Mars
Date: 26 Jan 2004 08:32:21 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


In V23 #32 our Moderator wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Question for Eric: Lately you have
> been using as your .sig file the commentary about Mars and northern
> Nevada.  I was wondering if you (or anyone else reading this) have
> been looking at the visuals of Mars from the NASA web site?  They
> might make for an interesting discussion here in the Digest.  PAT]

PAT, please excuse my delay in responding! Somehow this issue of the
Digest ended up in the wrong folder here.

I've seen a few pictures, but to be honest, I've not really followed
the probe story. Sending *people* would be much more interesting to
me. And it looks like that's just what we're going to do, starting
with the moon.


Eric Friedebach
The ol ringy dinghy

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It would certainly appear those are
Mr. Bush's plans, assuming Mars and the moon can in real practice
support human life. It appears *maybe* they can (in real practice and
not just a theoretical exercise) but I am talking now about *quality
of life* -- not just 'living'.  Maybe Ralph Kramden (Jackie Gleason)
had a future glimpse of things when he would poinnt skyward and 
threaten his wife Alice 'the Moon, Alice!' It would be *so wild* if
it happened in my lifetime.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Virtual Meetings Get More Real
Date: 26 Jan 2004 08:45:18 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Aude Lagorce, 01.26.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - If you've ever sat through a video conference, hopelessly
scanning your interlocutors' tiny faces on a TV screen for a clue
about who is uttering the disembodied words reaching you with a
one-second delay, you're likely to hope that the corporate travel
budget will soon be reinstated.

As funds for business travel have been slashed over the last few
years, the video conferencing business has been widely seen as an
alternative to in-person meetings. But video meetings can be a
frustrating and awkward affair. Speech can get out of sync, and words
can be dropped. The video screen can act like more of a communications
barrier than an aid.
	
An Ohio-based startup called Telesuite aims to change that. Forget
everything you thought you knew about trying to talk to a TV. The
barely recognizable faces? Gone. The poor lighting? Departed. The
nerve-jarring sound delays? Distant memories.

http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/26/cx_al_0126tentech.html


Eric Friedebach

------------------------------

From: Jabriol@excite.com (JaBrIoL)
Subject: IP400 SO8 Expansion Module
Date: 26 Jan 2004 08:59:11 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello,

I have an Avaya IP Office IP400 SO8 expansion module and I'm trying to
configure it in my IP400 Office system. Using the Installation manual
as a reference, I tried to configure the system in the Manager with no
results. I do get the 8 SO lines showing, but cannot make call
throughs to verify operation. Does anyone have an idea on the proper
configuration. Thanks!

------------------------------

From: lawrence.jones@ugsplm.com
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:13:01 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


Paul Robinson <postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us> wrote:

> look at your keyboard and realize the QWERTY pattern was developed
> back in the 1880s to *slow people down* on manual typewriters that
> would jam.

A common misconception, or at least a gross mischaracterization of Mr.
Sholes' intent.  If common letter pairs were near each other in the
mechanism, it would jam when they were typed quickly.  By separating
the common letter pairs, the QWERTY arrangement prevented the jamming
and thus allowed the typist to go *faster* than the original
(alphabetical) arrangement.  It was actually developed a bit earlier
than the 1880s, the patent was granted in 1878.


-Larry Jones

I stand FIRM in my belief of what's right!  I REFUSE to
compromise my principles! -- Calvin

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    Google Targeted by Pranksters; Web Site, Bloggers Skew Results (Solomon)
    New Virus Infects PCs, Whacks SCO (Monty Solomon)
    Cablevision a Top Bidder For Wireless Licenses (Monty Solomon)
    Online Reference to Reach Milestone (Monty Solomon)
    Cablevision's VOOM Bids For Wireless Licenses (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message? (Jeffrey Mattox)
    Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message? (Paul Vader)
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Reply-To: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Google Targeted by Pranksters - Web Sites, Bloggers Skew Results
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:38:49 -0500


Verne Kopytoff, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, January 26, 2004

Who among the many candidates running for president is unelectable?
George W. Bush -- if the search results on Google can be believed.

His biography is the first result to appear on Google for the Web query
"unelectable." It's just one in a long list of similarly bizarre results
on the search engine over the years that are the result of manipulation,
not their relevance.

Called Google bombs, these are pranks engineered by Web site operators
and creators of Web logs.  They take advantage of the way Google ranks
search results to get certain Web sites listed higher for specific
queries than they otherwise would be.

That's why President Bush's biography also appears as the top result for
the search query "miserable failure."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/01/26/BUG3M4GVDS1.DTL

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:21:56 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New Virus Infects PCs, Whacks SCO


By Robert Lemos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

A mass-mailing virus quickly spread through the Internet on Monday, 
compromising computers so that they attack the SCO Group's Web server 
with a flood of data on Feb. 1, according to antivirus companies.

The virus -- known as MyDoom, Novarg and as a variant of the Mimail 
virus by different antivirus companies -- arrives in an in-box with one 
of several different random subject lines, such as "Mail Delivery 
System," "Test" or "Mail Transaction Failed." The body of the e-mail 
contains an executable file and a statement such as: "The message 
contains Unicode characters and has been sent as a binary attachment."


http://news.com.com/2100-7349-5147605.html


See also ...

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.novarg.a@mm.html

http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=description&virus_k=100983

http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/virus/story/0,10801,89449,00.html

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/01/26/HNmydoom_1.html 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50582-2004Jan26.html 

http://slashdot.org/articles/04/01/27/0038234.shtml

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114460,00.asp


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I got three of those 'test' messages
with 'unicode characters' in my mail here at massis Monday evening,
but just tossed them out.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:01:50 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cablevision a Top Bidder For Wireless Licenses


NEW YORK, Jan 26 (Reuters) - VOOM, the satellite TV service set to be
spun off from New York-area cable company Cablevision Systems
(NYSE:CVC), is the top bidder for licenses to build a U.S.  wireless
video and data network, according to Federal Communications Commission
figures.

The network would use an emerging technology called MVDDS, nor
Multichannel Video Distribution and Data Service, which operates
within the same spectrum of broadcast frequencies as satellite
television services like DirecTV and DISH Network.  But it is
transmitted from local microwave towers, allowing the broadcast of
local channels and two-way high-speed data.

Satellite broadcasters, who oppose the technology, say their spectrum
is too crowded, diminishing the quality of their product.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40310951

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:26:07 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Online Reference to Reach Milestone


By Dan Gillmor
Mercury News Technology Columnist

Sometime in the next few days or weeks, one of the world's most
comprehensive online reference sites will publish its 200,000th
article. More accurately, one of the site's contributors will publish
the article.

Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org), an encyclopedia created and operated by
volunteers, is one of the most fascinating developments of the Digital
Age. In just over three years of existence, it has become a valuable
resource and an example of how the grass roots in today's
interconnected world can do extraordinary things.

Almost anyone can be a contributor to the Wikipedia. Almost anyone can
edit almost any page. (Only serious misbehavior gets people banned.)
Thousands of people around the world have added their expertise, and
new volunteers show up every day.

It defies first-glance assumptions. After all, one might imagine, if
anyone can edit anything, surely cyber-vandals will wreck it. Surely
flame wars over article content will stymie good intentions. And, of
course, the articles will all be amateurish nonsense. Right?

Well, no.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7793099.htm

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:42:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cablevision's VOOM Bids for Wireless Licenses


By Michael Learmonth

NEW YORK, Jan 26 (Reuters) - VOOM, the satellite TV service set to be
spun off from New York-area cable company Cablevision Systems
(NYSE:CVC), is the top bidder for licenses to build a U.S.  wireless
video and data network, according to Federal Communications Commission
figures.

The network would use an emerging technology called MVDDS, nor
Multichannel Video Distribution and Data Service, which operates
within the same spectrum of broadcast frequencies as satellite
television services like DirecTV and DISH Network.

But the MVDDS signal is transmitted from local microwave towers,
allowing enough bandwidth for hundreds of channels and high-speed
Internet service.

Satellite broadcasters had initially opposed the technology and some
are suing in federal court to stop it, claiming the spectrum is
already too crowded and that local microwave antennas would interfere
with their signals from space.

But the participation of VOOM in the auction gives additional clues to
the nascent satellite broadcaster's strategy. Cablevision and its
visionary founder, Charles Dolan, have been roundly criticized by
analysts for the venture, a high-definition satellite service that
requires viewers to buy a receiver for $749.99.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40313078

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:29:04 -0600
From: Jeffrey Mattox <Withheld at reader's request>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?


Pat:

    [Please do not publish my email address -- too much spam already.]

You wrote:

> TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Really not a problem at all.
> I use a software package called 'Mail Washer' which does that.
> ...  Anything you tell Mail Washer to bounce and blacklist gets
> returned to the sender with a very realistic looking notice from
> postmaster@your.site saying no such user.  ...   PAT]

This particular feature of Mail Washer will do more harm than good.

An truly invalid email address is reported to the SMTP server during 
the actual connection when the email is sent.  The SMTP protocol 
tells the sending machine that the address is invalid and the message 
body never even gets sent.

When you send a "bounce" message yourself in reply to a spam, it's 
just another email going over the Internet and it will be totally 
ignored by the spammer.  Spammers don't include a valid reply address 
anyway, so your bounce message will likely just generate another 
bounce message (a reply to your bounce) causing even more traffic. 
Even if spammers get your bounce message, they'd know it was faked 
because it didn't come during the SMTP connection when the spam was 
sent.  In fact, your faked bounce message is a *positive indication* 
that your address is valid because you got the spam!!

The Mail Washer web site says : "... the bounced messages look 
exactly like a returned mail message you would receive if you sent an 
email off to a wrong address. There is no way the spammers can tell 
it is not genuine."

But that is wrong!  Spammers can tell because the bounce message 
comes as a delayed email (which they will ignore) rather than a 
refused connected by the SMTP protocol.  With spammers using every 
trick they can to get emails through spam filters, why would anybody 
believe they would be fooled by a faked bounce message?   Besides, 
spammers aren't interested in cleaning their lists.  It's a waste of 
their time because it costs them nothing to keep the bad addresses. 
Damn them!

The companies that are advertising this "feature" of their product 
are either idiots or (more likely) are hoping to impress people with 
a feature that sounds good, but, in fact, is detrimental.


Jeff

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:51:31 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


me@privacy.net writes:

> How difficult would it be to spoof a message that seemed like it came
> from an ISP's mail server? I'd like this technique to discourage some
> people from sending mail to me.

It's actually pretty trivial -- send a message to a whacko address on
your ISP's mailserver, and mimic the resulting bounce message that
gets sent to you. If you're doing this for specific people that you
actually know and don't like, it's harmless enough. However, DO NOT be
tempted to use this against spammers.  All you'll be doing then is
sending random messages to addresses that either don't exist, or don't
belong to the spammer. The only way to bounce a spam is during the
SMTP conversation while the message is coming in, and even then in
most cases the spammer isn't paying attention to the responses
anyway. *


* PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
       like corkscrews.

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:23:14 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Pat,

Two questions regarding "Mail Washer":

1. Does it (or something similar) run under OS-X?

2. What does it cost?

Inquiring minds want to know.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mail Washer runs under various flavors
of Windows with (at least) Outlook Express. It is a free download you
can get by Googling for it. I did not read all the specs, so it may
well work with other OS' and mail clients as well. But note what two
other correspondents tonight just said about it: Jeff and Paul both 
think no one is fooled by the bogus daemon, certainly not professional
spammers and innocent third parties could get harmed by a flood of 
mail returned to them they did not send.  All that being considered, I
still like the idea of being able to have all my incoming mail lined
up in single lines where I can make a single click to have it go away
if the sender is not recogized or the subject sounds 'fishy' to me.
That is, in cases like SBC where they make absolutely no attempt to
help with the problem at all.  In the case of Cable One however, they
at least round up all *they* perceive to be spam and viruses, and 
isolate it for me in a separate file, where, after cursory examination
one click gets rid of the entire batch. Even Yahoo does a better job
of attempting to isolate spam than SBC does! 

Another good program to look at for isolating spam into its own folder
right out of the mail sever is 'Cloudmark' which is a plug in tool to
integrate with Outlook Express. If Mail Washer or Spam Assassin does
not catch it for some reason, then Cloudmark usually will. Like the
other two, Cloudmark is trainable; it adds two new buttons to the
Outlook Express desktop where you can pass a piece of mail in to your
regular delivery or not as desired. PAT]

DaveC wrote:

> How difficult would it be to spoof a message that seemed like it came
> from an ISP's mail server? I'd like this technique to discourage some
> people from sending mail to me.

> The message doesn't have to be perfect, just such that to the
> untrained eye it looks like the recipient's address (mine) doesn't
> exist and the host mail server is informing the sender of such.

> Suggestions?

> Thanks,

> DaveC
> me@privacy.net
> This is an invalid return address
> Please reply in the news group

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Really not a problem at all. I use a
> software package called 'Mail Washer' which does that. When you want
> to receive your email, instead of using your email client, you use
> Mail Washer. It POPS into your various accounts, grabs all the mail
> and displays only a line of each item; who from, date and subject.
> Then you train it what you consider spam and what is legitmate, and
> you click little boxes next to each piece of mail for accept, spam,
> blacklist, and bounce. Then you click 'process mail'. The mail
> accepted is brought to your mail client and displayed in the usual
> way. Mail which is considered spam just disappears from the servers
> when you confirm your click by processing mail. Anything you tell Mail
> Washer to bounce and blacklist gets returned to the sender with a very
> realistic looking notice from postmaster@your.site saying no such
> user.  You do have to work to set it up properly at first, since
> sometimes on outgoing mail you need to 'authenticate user' with a
> password, etc to be able to send mail through a particular server. 
> And of course some email arrives with a bogus return address to start
> with, so you have to take care on mail you simply want to destroy
> undread versus that you want to blacklist and bounce. Not a bad
> program however; its easier to get rid of several dozen pieces of 
> junk with a check mark on a single line instead of having to accept
> all the mail, scan through it and zap what is junk. And it saves
> your own wastebasket file from having to fill up and then get
> emptied out.   PAT]

-- 
"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:05:07 GMT


In article <telecom23.40.8@telecom-digest.org>, DaveC <me@privacy.net> 
wrote:

> How difficult would it be to spoof a message that seemed like it came
> from an ISP's mail server? I'd like this technique to discourage some
> people from sending mail to me.

The Macintosh OS X Mail program has a built-in "Bounce" command, that 
sends a fake bounce message for the selected messages.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

------------------------------

From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Protect Yourself From Deceptive (Spoofed), Malicious Web Sites
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:16:10 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: North Carolina State University


In article <telecom23.36.7@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 833786

> Steps that you can take to help identify and to help protect yourself
> from deceptive (spoofed) Web sites and malicious hyperlinks

> SUMMARY

> When you point to a hyperlink in Microsoft Internet Explorer,
> Microsoft Outlook Express, or Microsoft Outlook, the address of the
> Web site typically appears in the Status bar at the bottom of the
> window. After you click a link that opens in Internet Explorer, the
> address of the Web site typically appears in the Internet Explorer
> Address bar, and the title of the Web page typically appears in the
> Title bar of the window.

> However, a malicious user could create a link to a deceptive 
> (spoofed) Web site that displays the address, or URL, to a legitimate 
> Web site in the Status bar, Address bar, and Title bar. 

  I have received *many* pieces of UCE (aka spam) which use this type
of link -- and make it look as if you are going to Microsoft's web
site -- but take you some place else.

  I set up a demo  -- if you want to see how this can happen go to:
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/gn/ex/spoof.html

  I've checked it with IE, and sure enough it claims that you are at
www.microsoft.com.  A couple of other browsers show that there is more
to the URL.

> This article describes steps that you can take to help mitigate this
> issue and to help you to identify a deceptive (spoofed) Web site or
> URL.

> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=833786

  Phoo!  While that article gives some decent advice (such as look for
the locked symbol) most of the advice is so burdensome that I suspect
that *very few* users would (or could) follow it.  For example, since
scammers can use SSL, the suggest that even if the locked symbol
appears that you chould check the name on the digital certificate for
SSL.

  Another example -- they say that you shouldn't click on a URL, but
instead "type the URL of your intended destination in the address bar
yourself" Sure -- especially when there is a "link" and one would have
to bring up the HTML source, find the link, then read it off and type
it in!

  Do they really think that this type of advice is sufficient?


--henry schaffer
hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess for many people, it is quite
sufficient. Truely, some links to URLs are outrageously long and 
cumbersome to type in. As you know, some URLs go on for eighty to one
hundred characters in length, or more. People need to learn that 
Microsoft, various banks, etc do NOT send you email telling you to
'please click here and verify your account information.'  People need
to learn that the only way you EVER go to one of those sites is if
you, yourself originate the inquiry. 

What scares me a little however is that Microsoft has some perfectly
legimate way to 'tickle' the bit in your computer to notify you that
Windows Update has something for you. Then the next time you attempt
to use your browser, you get diverted (legitimatly) to Windows Update
to receive the file. What happens when some bad person (a) gets his
hands on the mailing list of people who want to be notified
legitimatly by Microsoft of new security issues, then (b) proceeds to
send a 'tickle' to all those users and (c) figures out some way to
divert them to a malicious but very well counterfieted web site
purporting to be Windows Update. The amateurs out there now who send
those 'here is your latest update' file only fool the really new,
novice users. Imagine the fun when (a), (b) and (c) above get accomp-
lished and only a *very trained, very experienced* user notices there
is something 'not quite right' about that 'Windows Update' page, but
by that time the bad man has already started dumping all over your
hard drive.  We are all at the mercy of users who are smarter than 
ourselves unfortunatly.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: yeltrabnhoj@email.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Home Networks
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:46:26 GMT
Organization: (reverse to reply)  (John Bartley, K7AAY, Portland OR)


On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:37:34 -0500, Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com>
wrote:

> The recent articles on DSL availabilty prompted me to check with
> Verizon yet again to see if Verizon had at last made DSL available in
> my neighborhood in Northern VA.  I was pleasantly surprised to see
> that they had, and with a little bit of searching discovered a
> wireless hub and small wireless USB adaptors at buy.com on sale for
> about $35 each.  The wired versions -- either conventional NIC cards
> using CAT 5 cable or the HPNA stle which use phone lines are both more
> expensive and the former of course entails running and terminating
> cables. 

BYTE.COM noted in their CES report of Tuesday afternoon:

Powerline networking, aka HomePlug, has been "going to happen" for
over a decade, but appeared to be headed nowhere -- the same nowhere
that phone-line networking fell into. But, while we weren't looking,
the HomePlug Powerline Alliance (HPPA) quietly built momentum for
their "no new wires" products, which run over your house's existing
power lines. CES saw a good number of HomePlug interoperability
demonstrations in the HPPA's booth, far more than we would have
predicted. Intellon was touting the cost to build HomePlug into
existing products at as little as $10 in parts, far lower than today.
Panasonic has put its name behind HomePlug as well, particularly for
in-home hi-def streaming.

But not with the current standard. Current HomePlug (1.0) runs at 14
Megabits/second (Mbps), a respectable speed for Internet surfing but
hopelessly inadequate for streaming. The upcoming HomePlug AV standard
promises greater than 100 Mbps throughput, "faster than any flavor of
Wi-Fi," aimed especially at moving Hi-definition television (HD) between
your set-top box and a TV in a different room. One of the main silicon
players in this business is Intellon, whose "PowerAV" chips will probably
play a major part in the eventual standard. Expect HomePlug AV products
late in 2004, with the same plug-it-in-and-it-networks practicality as
HomePlug 1.0. Just after CES, the HPPA announced some new heavy hitters for
its board of directors, including ComCast and Earthlink. Looks like a
bandwagon, only time will tell how big.

--

Nobody but a fool goes into a federal counterrorism operation without
duct tape - Richard Preston, THE COBRA EVENT.

------------------------------

From: me3141592654@netscape.net (A Mathgrad)
Subject: VoIP and Cell Service - Room for Synergy ?
Date: 26 Jan 2004 09:55:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I was wondering whether there is a natural 'fit' between VoIP services
and Cell Phone services.

My friend operates a business from her home and spends a hefty amount
each month for telecom and related services:

1) Business line with message manager, caller id ($80)
2) Fax-to e-mail for incoming faxen $10
   (formerly used second business line at $60/month)
3) Cell phone ($35)
4) Home Phone ($45)
5) Cable company broadband ($60)

She pays more than $230 Canadian for services that should be
profitable at half of that. (These are rough $ estimates)

It would make sense for her cell provider to offer her an add-on VoIP
connection that works with her cell service. Calls could be received
at the office, mobile phone or answering machine according to her
schedule. IP-calls would not require extra wireless infrastructure and
would leverage the providers investment in connections with the PSTN.

At the cost of an add-on DID number and an extra RJ-11 port on the
computer her residential service could share the broadband connection
and shift the revenue stream from the phone company to the cell
company.

The cell companies could leverage their installed base and existing
network into the much larger market of 'wired' telephony with the
addition of some VoIP software, IP connections and some aggressive
marketing.

We know 'The Phone Company' will never do this because it destroys 
their current revenue models.

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Err, Umm, rumor was Re: The Most Hated Company In Tech
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:30:16 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom23.40.3@telecom-digest.org> Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> writes:

(excerpted)

> The Most Hated Company In Tech

> SCO's huge Linux suit against IBM is a long shot that may yield 
> nothing but bile.
> And McBride has even received death threats. One was so unnerving that 
> SCO's security had a sharpshooter in the room when McBride spoke at a 
> tech conference in Las Vegas in December. 

> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_05/b3868104_mz063.htm

Even though it's a Business Week article, I'd find that part of the
story quite a bit unlikely. Sharpshooters are not hired nor placed in
pulic environments that casually. Confirmation anyone?


_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:39:34 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: 'You've Got Problems!'


As more users turn to the vast array of content beyond AOL's walls, 
the Net provider is fighting back in an urgent bid to remain relevant.

By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff, 1/26/2004

After five years, Rich Krause finally gave up AOL. The 46-year-old
attorney in Stillman Valley, Ill., got his Internet access from a
small local dial-up provider, but also maintained a subscription to
America Online, the nation's largest Internet service provider, with
its vast array of news and entertainment resources. But Krause rarely
used the AOL services.

"The features that they had on AOL I didn't find particularly useful 
or necessary," he said.

He had no use for chat rooms or instant messaging. And as for finding 
information online, he could run a search on Yahoo or Google to 
locate resources that were as good as AOL's.

So six months ago, Krause quit AOL. He wasn't alone. According to 
documents filed by AOL's parent company, Time Warner Inc., with the 
Securities and Exchange Commission, AOL lost 2 million US subscribers 
between September 2002 and September 2003. This Sunday AOL will 
launch a massive marketing blitz during the Super Bowl in an 
expensive attempt to reverse that trend, or at least hang on to the 
24.7 million customers who remain. The company is spending $7.5 
million to sponsor the halftime show, an extravaganza featuring Janet 
Jackson, P. Diddy, and Kid Rock. 

And during the game, we'll see the father-and-son cast of the cable TV
show "American Chopper" promoting a new AOL feature that will speed up
Web surfing, even for customers who use slow telephone modem
connections. It's a colorful and costly effort to convince Internet
users that one of the old titans of the Internet hasn't sunk into
irrelevance.

AOL made its bones by protecting ordinary consumers from the 
intimidating complexity of the Internet. In the process, the service 
introduced millions of new computer users to the online world.

http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2004/01/26/youve_got_problems/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:37:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Creating Software on Demand / CompUSA Rolls Out Automated System


By Chris Gaither, Globe Staff, 1/26/2004

EMERYVILLE, Calif. -- Customers are still trying to figure out what 
it is. But the whirring machine inside the front door of the CompUSA 
store here may transform the way software is sold.

The SoftwareToGo system is the first in a major US retail chain to 
create software titles on demand, said its manufacturer and CompUSA. 
The electronics seller has installed the machines in stores in 
Seattle, Dallas, and in the San Francisco Bay area, with plans to 
roll it out nationwide, including in Massachusetts, starting next 
quarter.

For now, CompUSA and software publishers see the machine as a way to 
increase the number of titles they sell, without taking up valuable 
space on shelves. But in the future, its advocates say, systems like 
SoftwareToGo might reduce inventory problems, keep popular items 
available for purchase even when they're gone from shelves, and cut 
down on software theft -- major problems for stores.

As he gave a recent demonstration of the system, Mitchell Rawlings, 
general manager of the Emeryville CompUSA, was interrupted by an 
employee bearing an empty box of Microsoft Office Professional 
software. Someone had sliced the top with a razor, removed the discs, 
and walked out.


http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/01/26/creating_software_on_demand/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:36:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: T-Mobile USA Adds More Than 1 Million Net New Customers in Q4,


     Topping off Strong Annual Growth with More Than 3.2 Million Net
     Additions in 2003
     - Jan 27, 2004 12:30 AM (BusinessWire)

BONN, Germany & BELLEVUE, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 27, 2004--

   --  T-Mobile annual customer growth of 32%

   --  More net additions than in 2002

T-Mobile International, the mobile communications subsidiary of
Deutsche Telekom AG (NYSE:DT), today announced fourth quarter 2003
customer results of its U.S. operations, T-Mobile USA, Inc.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40316661

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:41:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: New Wireless Standard to Carry Cable TV Signal


By Yukari Iwatani Kane

TOKYO, Jan 27 (Reuters) - A new wireless technology with enough
bandwidth to carry cable television signals from a wall-mounted outlet
to a TV anywhere in the home could be on the market as early as next
year, an industry group said on Tuesday.

The Multiband OFDM Alliance, led by Texas Instruments Inc (NYSE:TXN),
the world's top maker of microchips for cell phones, said it would
publish standards for the technology in May. The group said it
expected products with the technology, known as Ultra Wideband, to
ship in 2005.

Ultra Wideband operates at a lower power than the wireless local area
network standard known as WiFi, but is capable of handling much larger
amounts of data, including streaming video.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40317337

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:44:49 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: SBC Reports Strong 4th-Quarter Long Distance Launch in Midwest


     Improved Retail Access Line Trends, Record Gains in Long
     Distance, DSL

SAN ANTONIO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 27, 2004--

Note: SBC Communications Inc.'s fourth-quarter earnings conference
call will be broadcast live via the Internet at 10 a.m. EST on Jan.
27, 2004, at www.sbc.com/investor_relations .

    --  2.9 million long distance lines added companywide, including
        1.7 million from Midwest launch - best ever quarter

    --  377,000 DSL lines added / 8th consecutive quarter of
        accelerated growth

    --  32 percent reduction in consumer retail access-line losses
        companywide compared with 3rd quarter, including 54 percent
        reduction in the Midwest

SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) today reported fourth-quarter and
full-year 2003 financial and operating results that reflect strong
growth in long distance and DSL lines and continuing improvement in
access line trends.

SBC's full-year net income for 2003 was $8.5 billion, or $2.56 per
diluted share, compared with $5.7 billion, or $1.69 per diluted share,
in 2002. Excluding the cumulative effect of previously announced
accounting changes in both years, 2003 earnings were $6.0 billion, or
$1.80 per diluted share, versus $7.5 billion, or $2.23 per diluted
share.

Net income for the fourth quarter of 2003 was $905 million, or $0.27
per diluted share, compared with $2.4 billion, or $0.71 per diluted
share in the fourth quarter of 2002.

Excluding the effect of an extraordinary item and items announced
during the quarter, fourth-quarter 2003 earnings were $0.34 per
diluted share. The prior-year period also was affected by a number of
previously reported items that increased fourth-quarter 2002 earnings
by $0.22 a share, including a $0.12 impact from a change in directory
accounting. Excluding these items, earnings were $0.49 cents per
diluted share.

Year-over-year quarterly earnings comparisons also were impacted
by access line losses, increases in pension and retiree benefit costs,
and higher costs associated with strong growth in long distance and
DSL subscribers.

Revenues for the fourth quarter of 2003 totaled $10.1 billion,
compared with $11.2 billion in the year-earlier period. Operating
expenses totaled $8.9 billion for the latest quarter, compared with
$9.0 billion in the prior-year period. A change in accounting method
for the directory business reduced both fourth-quarter 2003 revenues
and expenses versus the fourth quarter of 2002.

For the full year 2003, revenues were $40.8 billion, compared with
$43.1 billion in 2002.

SBC's consolidated revenue and operating expense totals do not include
proportionate results from Cingular Wireless, which is 60 percent
owned by SBC. Cingular's revenues for the latest quarter were $3.9
billion, compared with $3.7 billion in the prior-year period.


Fourth-quarter revenues benefited from strong subscriber growth in
long distance and DSL and increases in business data sales, offset by
ongoing access-line losses.

Fourth-quarter expenses were increased by investments in initiatives
to drive growth in long distance and DSL and to prepare for the
company's planned first-quarter 2004 launch of SBC DISH Network video
service and to expand its capabilities in the large-business
market. Compared with expense levels in the year-earlier period,
fourth-quarter operating expenses were positively impacted by the
directory accounting change but adversely impacted by increased
pension and retiree benefit costs. Increased pension and benefit costs
had a $0.09 per share negative impact on fourth-quarter 2003 earnings,
compared with the prior-year period.

Full-year 2003 operating expenses totaled $34.4 billion in 2003,
versus $34.5 billion in 2002.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40318482

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:50:02 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EarthLink Reports Net Income of $10.7 Million in Fourth Quarter


ATLANTA, Jan. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- EarthLink, Inc.  (Nasdaq:
ELNK) today announced financial results for its fourth quarter ending
December 31, 2003.

Financial highlights for the quarter:

      * Net subscriber growth of 248,000 in the fourth quarter and
        219,000 for the full year.

      * Revenues of $348.6 million, an increase of 0.2 percent from 
        the fourth quarter 2002.

      * Earnings before interest income and expense, income taxes, 
        depreciation and amortization, and facility exit costs 
        (adjusted EBITDA, a non-GAAP measure) of $36.5 million compared
        to $20.2 million from the fourth quarter 2002.

      * Earnings before facility exit costs, acquisition-related 
        amortization and accretion dividends (a non-GAAP measure) of 
        $19.4 million, or $0.12 per share, compared to a loss of
        ($3.2) million, or ($0.02) per share, from the fourth quarter
        2002.

      * Net income of $10.7 million, or $0.07 per share, compared to a
        loss of ($36.9) million, or ($0.24) per share, from the fourth 
        quarter 2002.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401271202_PRN__CLTU001

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:06:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Hops on the RFID Bandwagon


By Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Microsoft on Monday announced new software designed to help small and 
midsize companies better manage their supply chains wirelessly.

The company has added radio frequency identification technology, 
which combines silicon chips and radio frequency technology to track 
inventory, to its Microsoft Axapta Warehouse Management software.

Microsoft has been testing the new RFID software with KiMs, a Danish 
snack food company, since December 2003. KiMs, which was already 
using Axapta, is using the new software to monitor pallets or cartons 
of finished goods as they move out of production and into a 
third-party warehouse. The company said that the new software 
provides much greater knowledge of the exact location of products at 
various points in its supply chain.

 ...

http://news.com.com/2100-7343-5147145.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:09:33 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Plans for Wireless Directory Raise Concerns About Privacy


By LISA NAPOLI
January 26, 2004

After last year's campaigns against spammers and telemarketers,
lawmakers on Capitol Hill are poised to tackle the next privacy
frontier: the nation's 150 million wireless phones.

As a group of carriers quietly works to create the first wireless 
white pages, legislation is in the works to protect consumers 
concerned about the privacy issues of those numbers going public. 
Privacy advocates say the proposed protections are not strong enough.

The Wireless 411 Consumer Privacy Act was introduced in both the House
and the Senate before the holiday recess. The bill would require
existing customers who want to be listed in a national database of
numbers to "opt in," or specifically say they want to be listed, while
new wireless subscribers would have to "opt out," that is, choose not
to be listed.

The proposed legislation also insists that consumers not be charged a
fee for keeping their numbers private, a practice that generates $50
million in revenue for land-line companies each year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/26/technology/26directory.html

------------------------------

Reply-To: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:34:46 -0500


    The question was asked where to get Mailwasher.

    The URL is http://www.mailwasher.net.  It is written by a fellow who
lives in New Zealand.

    There is a free version which is limited to one account and there is a
paid version which isn't so limited.

    When I was in graduate school at Johns Hopkins University, one of
my professors (who taught management courses, his speciality was TQM)
was direct associate of Dr. Deming.  Someone said something about how
everyone was trying to invent the better mousetrap.  He said something
that made me chuckle, but after you think about it you realize he is
right.  He suggested that the best solution is to just get rid of the
mouse.

    So, perhaps they will start enforcing that new anti-spam law and
start busting those mice who send that stuff.


Fred

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:56:48 GMT


In article <telecom23.41.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jeffrey Mattox
<Withheld at reader's request> wrote:

> The Mail Washer web site says : "... the bounced messages look 
> exactly like a returned mail message you would receive if you sent an 
> email off to a wrong address. There is no way the spammers can tell 
> it is not genuine."

> But that is wrong!  Spammers can tell because the bounce message 
> comes as a delayed email (which they will ignore) rather than a 
> refused connected by the SMTP protocol.  With spammers using every 
> trick they can to get emails through spam filters, why would anybody 
> believe they would be fooled by a faked bounce message?   Besides, 
> spammers aren't interested in cleaning their lists.  It's a waste of 
> their time because it costs them nothing to keep the bad addresses. 
> Damn them!

I disagree.  Mail often has to go through several hops before it gets to 
the server that recognizes the mail account names.  Also, many spammers 
make use of open mail relays, they don't send directly to the 
destination mail servers.  For these reasons, they have no reason to 
expect that the "No such user" error will occur during their SMTP 
dialog; many of the legitimate failures are delayed.

You *are* correct that many spammers don't include a valid return 
address, so the bounces will not go back to them in the first place.  
And you're also probably correct that they don't care about cleaning up 
their lists.  Spam lists are valued by their size, not quality, even 
though spammers often advertise (in spam!) how clean their lists are.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Barry is quite correct about how lists
are valued by their size. I personally would rather have a small list
of active, useful participants rather than a list of a million names 
99 percent of whom toss my stuff in the garbage each day. I think they
define 'clean' to mean how much email sticks versus what bounces but
part of that problem is the number of netters who pitch it without
taking the trouble to bounce it back. Spammers work by numbers and if
there was a way to enforce valid return addresses on email and spam,
and everyone who found it unwelcome did bounce it back, I suspect the
spammers would be shocked by the volume of returned stuff they get,
that they then had to dispose of, etc. Thats one reason I use the
'bounce' feature in Mail Washer; hoping to God at least some of it
gets back to the (true) originator to discourage them.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: 27 Jan 2004 05:50:29 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Jeffrey Mattox <Withheld at reader's request> wrote in message news:<telecom23.41.6@telecom-digest.org>...

> Pat:

>     [Please do not publish my email address -- too much spam already.]

> You wrote:

>> TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Really not a problem at all.
>> I use a software package called 'Mail Washer' which does that.
>> ...  Anything you tell Mail Washer to bounce and blacklist gets
>> returned to the sender with a very realistic looking notice from
>> postmaster@your.site saying no such user.  ...   PAT]

> This particular feature of Mail Washer will do more harm than good.

> An truly invalid email address is reported to the SMTP server during 
> the actual connection when the email is sent.  The SMTP protocol 
> tells the sending machine that the address is invalid and the message 
> body never even gets sent.

> When you send a "bounce" message yourself in reply to a spam, it's 
> just another email going over the Internet and it will be totally 
> ignored by the spammer.  Spammers don't include a valid reply address 
> anyway, so your bounce message will likely just generate another 
> bounce message (a reply to your bounce) causing even more traffic. 
> Even if spammers get your bounce message, they'd know it was faked 
> because it didn't come during the SMTP connection when the spam was 
> sent.  In fact, your faked bounce message is a *positive indication* 
> that your address is valid because you got the spam!!

>            <<SNIP>>
> But that is wrong!  Spammers can tell because the bounce message 
> comes as a delayed email (which they will ignore) rather than a 
> refused connected by the SMTP protocol.  With spammers using every 
> trick they can to get emails through spam filters, why would anybody 
> believe they would be fooled by a faked bounce message?   Besides, 
> spammers aren't interested in cleaning their lists.  It's a waste of 
> their time because it costs them nothing to keep the bad addresses. 
> Damn them!

> The companies that are advertising this "feature" of their product 
> are either idiots or (more likely) are hoping to impress people with 
> a feature that sounds good, but, in fact, is detrimental.

> Jeff

I use Mailwasher PRO, which you can upgrade to with a small donation
to the author of the freeware, to handle my e-mail.  I have set the
option to only mark for deletion rather than mark for deletion and
bounce for the reasons Jeff stated.

Mailwasher also has the ability to mark domains as being on your
"blacklist" so any mail coming from that domain is automatically
classified as being "spam" and marked for, but not deleted or bounced.

The only thing about Mailwasher I would like to see is to add the
ability to check messages on Yahoo! and some of the other web-based
mail services.  It does Hotmail which is POP3 compatible, but not
others.


Rodgers Platt

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have that same Mail Washer Pro, and
it sits right in front of my email client and calls for the client
when it has finished its review each time. I should have mentioned
that to the original correspondent. Yes, Mail Washer is free, but
if you send the NZ guy a small donation you can use the 'Pro' version
which has a few more features. I strongly believe in sending money
to people who promote using the net properly; the guys who put their
shareware out for others.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Organization: ATCC
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:00:43 GMT


In article <telecom23.41.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jeffrey Mattox
<Withheld at reader's request> says:

> The Mail Washer web site says : "... the bounced messages look 
> exactly like a returned mail message you would receive if you sent an 
> email off to a wrong address. There is no way the spammers can tell 
> it is not genuine."

> But that is wrong!  Spammers can tell because the bounce message 
> comes as a delayed email (which they will ignore) rather than a 
> refused connected by the SMTP protocol.  With spammers using every 
> trick they can to get emails through spam filters, why would anybody 
> believe they would be fooled by a faked bounce message?   Besides, 
> spammers aren't interested in cleaning their lists.  It's a waste of 
> their time because it costs them nothing to keep the bad addresses. 
> Damn them!

> The companies that are advertising this "feature" of their product 
> are either idiots or (more likely) are hoping to impress people with 
> a feature that sounds good, but, in fact, is detrimental.

I once used MailWasher until I actually looked at the way SMTP works and 
realized it was easy to tell that the bounce was counterfeit. 

I've since switched to PopFile -- it is an email proxy that uses
Bayesian rules to filter out the SPAM. You have to teach it for the
first week as it doesn't really know how to classify things. But once
that's done you should see classification accuracy of 99% or
higher. And here's the thing -- it errs on the side of legitimate
email. So every once in a while for the first month or so you might
see SPAM tagged as legitimate.  Just go into the web console and tag
it as SPAM and that will increase the accuracy.

Right now I'm at 99.65% accuracy. Granted, I munge my address enough 
that it'll be some time before I start getting spam. 

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

In article <telecom23.41.7@telecom-digest.org>, pv+usenet@pobox.com 
says:

> me@privacy.net writes:

>> How difficult would it be to spoof a message that seemed like it came
>> from an ISP's mail server? I'd like this technique to discourage some
>> people from sending mail to me.

> It's actually pretty trivial -- send a message to a whacko address on
> your ISP's mailserver, and mimic the resulting bounce message that
> gets sent to you. If you're doing this for specific people that you
> actually know and don't like, it's harmless enough. However, DO NOT be
> tempted to use this against spammers.  All you'll be doing then is
> sending random messages to addresses that either don't exist, or don't
> belong to the spammer. The only way to bounce a spam is during the
> SMTP conversation while the message is coming in, and even then in
> most cases the spammer isn't paying attention to the responses
> anyway. *

If you have the time, see who registered the domain name of the site 
selling the product. 

I've had particular success when a certain type of spam gets on my 
nerves when looking up the domain owner, attempting to send email from a 
safe account (aka a disposable account) and calling if the number is 
within the continental U.S. If none of those contact methods works I 
drop an empty envelope to the address listed. If it comes back 
undeliverable I scan the returned envelope and send it to the registrar 
along with the log of calls, emails, etc. I've gotten a few domains 
hosed that way. 

------------------------------

From: Andrew Bell <andrewb314@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:00:49 -0500



>> TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Really not a problem at all.
>> I use a software package called 'Mail Washer' which does that.
>> ...  Anything you tell Mail Washer to bounce and blacklist gets
>> returned to the sender with a very realistic looking notice from
>> postmaster@your.site saying no such user.  ...   PAT]

> This particular feature of Mail Washer will do more harm than good.

> An truly invalid email address is reported to the SMTP server during 
> the actual connection when the email is sent.  The SMTP protocol 
> tells the sending machine that the address is invalid and the message 
> body never even gets sent.

While I agree with you that bounce messages are largely ineffective, this
statement is only true sometimes.

My work email comes to me through no less than 3 SMTP relays.  The
first one (which I don't control) will never bounce a message unless
the from: domain doesn't exist.  Don't get me started on the politics
of this. :-(

The second one (my first point of control) may reject a message for
any number of additional reasons, including an invalid to: address.
This means that I reject the mail while connected to the relay server,
not the originator.  The relay server then has to initiate a brand new
connection to the originating server to deliver this bounce message.

Dealing with these bounces on the relay server makes for an
interesting problem.  Since about about 80% of these are going to
invalid addresses, we have to send legitimate outgoing mail through a
different set of relays.  Otherwise, the backlog of bounce messages
can delay real mail for hours or days.

Andrew

------------------------------

From: Chris Jones <clj@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Why SCO's McBride Declared War
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:49:32 -0500


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> writes:

> Online Extra: Why SCO's McBride Declared War

> Says the CEO about Linux: "It wasn't like we said, 'Oh, let's go find
> people and sue them.' It was a gradual enforcement of our rights"

> You have to give SCO Group ( SCOX ) CEO Darl McBride credit for one
> thing: He's got moxie.

First, in what way was it NOT like they said "Oh, let's sue"?  Saying
that that isn't what they did doesn't change the fact that what they
did looks EXACTLY like that.

And no, I don't have to give Darl McBride credit for ANYTHING if I
don't want to.  He can't make me, and siccing lawyers indiscriminately
won't change that fact.  How did he end up in this universe without a
clue, anyway?

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:58:59 -0700
From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info>
Organization: Telus Sucks!
Subject: Re: New Virus Infects PCs, Whacks SCO


Monday, January 26, 2004, 11:20:00 PM, Monty wrote:

> A mass-mailing virus quickly spread through the Internet on Monday,
> compromising computers so that they attack the SCO Group's Web
> server with a flood of data on Feb. 1, according to antivirus
> companies.

Wow.  The world's first genuinely-useful virus.  Go figure.


Joey Lindstrom
http://td-extra.interocitor.net

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:56:45 GMT


In article <telecom23.39.8@telecom-digest.org>, 
postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us says:

> Alan Burkitt-Gray wrote:

>> The idea is that a +800 xxxx xxxx number can be dialed free of
>> charge from anywhere in the world.  The system is already in use by
>> many of the main hotel chains. For example the Hilton group gives
>> +800 4445 8667 on its website (the numbers translate to +800
>> HHILTONS, and it's very similar to its US toll-free number +1-800
>> 445 8667).

> The number 011-800-4445-8667# when dialed from an Arlington, Virginia
> home telephone produced a US style ring, and after about 10 or 12
> rings went to a recording identifying itself as Hilton Honors, in
> essence I was being put into a queue.  I hung up, having confirmed
> that the numbers do work here.

For what it's worth, when I dialed that number from my Verizon
landline here in Maryland, I got an interrupt and was cut off.

> When I tried dialing it from my Sprint PCS phone (without the # since
> you send all the digits before you push 'send'), I got the recording
> "Your account is not authorized to make calls to this number" so it
> implies that Sprint isn't aware of it yet or doesn't know how to
> authorize that 'country code' to be considered a local call.

When I tried it from my Verizon Wireless cellphone, James Earl Jones 
told me it couldn't be completed without a calling card.
  
> This at least confirms that international 800 numbers can be dialed
> from U.S.  wireline locations (presuming they include US access for
> the particular number.)


Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

------------------------------

From: Andrew Bell <andrewb314@yahoo.com>
Subject: Getting True, Important Security Updates from Microsoft
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:41:10 -0500


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess for many people, it is quite
> sufficient. Truely, some links to URLs are outrageously long and 
> cumbersome to type in. As you know, some URLs go on for eighty to one
> hundred characters in length, or more. People need to learn that 
> Microsoft, various banks, etc do NOT send you email telling you to
> 'please click here and verify your account information.'  People need
> to learn that the only way you EVER go to one of those sites is if
> you, yourself originate the inquiry. 

> What scares me a little however is that Microsoft has some perfectly
> legimate way to 'tickle' the bit in your computer to notify you that
> Windows Update has something for you. Then the next time you attempt
> to use your browser, you get diverted (legitimatly) to Windows Update
> to receive the file. What happens when some bad person (a) gets his
> hands on the mailing list of people who want to be notified
> legitimatly by Microsoft of new security issues, then (b) proceeds to
> send a 'tickle' to all those users and (c) figures out some way to
> divert them to a malicious but very well counterfieted web site
> purporting to be Windows Update. The amateurs out there now who send
> those 'here is your latest update' file only fool the really new,
> novice users. Imagine the fun when (a), (b) and (c) above get accomp-
> lished and only a *very trained, very experienced* user notices there
> is something 'not quite right' about that 'Windows Update' page, but
> by that time the bad man has already started dumping all over your
> hard drive.  We are all at the mercy of users who are smarter than 
> ourselves unfortunatly.   PAT]

The Microsoft update is a "pull" system.  If you enable automatic
updates, your PC runs a daemon that checks in with the MS site to see
if anything's available, then optionally downloads and installs it.
Microsoft never "reaches out" to your system.

The browser diversion you mentioned works similarly.  IE can (will, by
default) check for updates automatically every time you start it.  If
a newer version exists, it will then redirect you to the IE download
page instead of your normal home page.  This is a lot riskier than
automatic updates.  (Picture an attack which changes your home page to
a malicious clone of the IE update site - easy to do through either an
unpatched browser or social engineering.)

This check can be disabled under the Advanced setting tab in Internet
Explorer options.  Then if you ever see an IE update page at startup,
you'll *know* it's evil.  (insert Microsoft is evil anyway reference
here)


Andrew

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    Hardware Hacking Projects for Geeks (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon Supercharged DSL for Additional Massachusetts Cust (M Solomon)
    Tivo Sells Shares, Stock Hits Six-Month High (Monty Solomon)
    CNET Digital Living Puts the Hottest Consumer Electronics (M Solomon)
    Re: Getting True, Important Security Updates from Microsoft (J Mattox)
    Re: New Virus Infects PCs, Whacks SCO (Steven J Sobol)
    Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers (Stanley Cline)
    Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message? (Jeffrey Mattox)
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    Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers (John R. Levine)
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:04:18 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Hardware Hacking Projects for Geeks


By Scott Fullam
January 2004 (est.)
Series: Hacks
ISBN: 0-596-00314-5
352 pages, $29.95 US, $43.95 CA, £20.95 UK

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hardwarehks/

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hardwarehks/desc.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:17:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Supercharged DSL for Additional Massachusetts Customers


Supercharged DSL Service Is Now More Available, Affordable and Accessible

BOSTON, Jan. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon customers in more than 30
towns across Massachusetts now have improved communications as the
result of a $10 million investment the company has made in its local
telecommunications network.

In order to extend the reach of the company's super-fast digital
subscriber line (DSL) Internet access service to Massachusetts
consumers and businesses, Verizon installed digital equipment in
telecommunications terminals located in neighborhoods where DSL
service was previously not available.  This resulted in an increase of
180,000 DSL-qualified telephone lines in areas of Greater Boston, Cape
Cod and Western Massachusetts, as well as in towns north, south and
west of Boston.  The company completed the project last month.

During the past three years, Verizon has invested more than $2 billion
in its network that serves Massachusetts.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40321806

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:21:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Tivo Sells Shares, Stock Hits Six-Month High


NEW YORK, Jan 27 (Reuters) - Shares of TiVo Inc. (NASDAQ:TIVO),
a maker of digital video recorders, rose to their highest level
in six months on Tuesday as the company raised $74 million in a
secondary share offering.

While offerings usually pressure share prices, analysts said they were
encouraged by evidence that TiVo was raising money to finance its
future growth.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40321610

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:28:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CNET Digital Living Puts the Hottest Consumer Electronics


     CNET Digital Living Puts the Hottest Consumer Electronics on
     Display in Eight-Room, Interactive Digital Home
     - Jan 27, 2004 01:33 PM (BusinessWire)

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 27, 2004--

     CNET Digital Living Guides Consumers to the Ultimate Digital
            Lifestyle Based on Preferences and Budget Needs

CNET, the trusted source of information for millions of personal
technology buyers around the world, and a property of CNET Networks,
Inc. (Nasdaq:CNET), today announced the latest version of CNET Digital
Living ( http://living.cnet.com ). Featuring an eight-room,
interactive digital home, CNET Digital Living is the first editorial
feature that lets users browse through product recommendations by
expert, unbiased editors, in the context of an actual home setting, so
they can learn how to build a digital home that fits their budget and
lifestyle.

Launched in October, CNET Digital Living addresses the challenge
people face in figuring out how the overwhelming range of cutting-edge
consumer electronics products can fit into their lives. The site
combines its editorial expertise, the collective knowledge of its
audience, and cutting-edge interactive content to produce creative
features such as "Gear Envy," "What's Your Style," and "Three I can't
Live Without" -- all of which showcase the latest consumer electronics
and how they enhance people's everyday lives.

The new eight-room home lets users "walk through" three types of
living rooms (high-end, cutting-edge, and budget), two home offices
(telecommuter's office and family home office), a kitchen, a
recreation room, and a master bedroom. Removing the mystery of product
compatibility, each room features products that work with each other.
As users mouse over the products on display, they can easily retrieve
information on editors' top picks for each category, as well as
guidance and advice on how to build and set up each room. In addition
to the digital home, a new feature called "Wireless Way" provides a
step-by-step guide to setting up the wireless digital home from start
to finish.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40322380

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:06:02 -0600
From: Jeffrey Mattox <address withheld at users request>
Subject: Re: Getting True, Important Security Updates from Microsoft


Please withhold my email address -- too much spam.

Pat wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  ... Truely, some links to URLs are
> outrageously long and cumbersome to type in. As you know, some URLs
> go on for eighty to one hundred characters in length, or more.

Here's a site that allows you to enter a URL, any URL, even a 
massively long URL, and it gives you a relatively short "alias" to 
that URL that you can use in postings.

    http://tinyurl.com/

For example, here's one I just made.  It will take you to the latest
issue of the TELECOM Digest online:

    http://tinyurl.com/22juf

For now and evermore!  (Or as long as tinyurl.com site remains in
operation.)


Jeff

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for doing that, Jeff. I have
an account with UNOIC which issues domain names on the fly; you come
up with the desired name in the 'us.tf' area (or several other areas
are available and they are instantly assigned, just as tiny URL. For
instance, try http://patricktownson.us.tf or http://weatherforecast.us.tf
which are two of mine recently created. They in fact are just
redirects to elsewhere. Anyway folks, remember http://tinyurl.com/22juf
as one way to read this Digest.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: New Virus Infects PCs, Whacks SCO
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:11:59 -0600


Joey Lindstrom <joey@telussucks.info> wrote:

> Monday, January 26, 2004, 11:20:00 PM, Monty wrote:

>> A mass-mailing virus quickly spread through the Internet on Monday,
>> compromising computers so that they attack the SCO Group's Web
>> server with a flood of data on Feb. 1, according to antivirus
>> companies.

> Wow.  The world's first genuinely-useful virus.  Go figure.

Yeah, except you know that Sue-Happy Darth McVader is going to go
ballistic over this. Sometimes the assholes on our side irritate me
more than the assholes on the other side.
 
Whoever did this made a whole lot of innocent bystanders look very
bad.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Roamer1 Communications - Dunwoody, GA, USA
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org


In article <telecom23.42.16@telecom-digest.org>, Michael D Sullivan wrote:

> For what it's worth, when I dialed that number from my Verizon
> landline here in Maryland, I got an interrupt and was cut off.

Whether +800 works depends on your PICed LD carrier.  The Big Three
(AT&T, MCI, Sprint) work, but Qwest and Global Crossing do *not* work;
the latter probably holds true for most smaller carriers as well.  :(



Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/
 ...

"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:34:45 -0600
From: Jeffrey Mattox <address withheld at user's request>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?


Please withhold my email address -- too much spam.

Barry Margolin wrote:

>  And you're also probably correct that they don't care about cleaning
>  up their lists.  Spam lists are valued by their size, not quality, even
>  though spammers often advertise (in spam!) how clean their lists are.

Here's an interesting and detailed analysis of two CDs offered for 
sale (by spammers) that supposedly contain "clean" and "fresh" 
addresses.

    What You Get When You Buy a Spam CD

    http://rejo.zenger.nl/abuse/emailcd.php

Summary:

    One would expect to receive a CD with lists of addresses that
    are cleansed of role-accounts, doubles, spamtraps, spamblocks
    and whatsoever in order to make a good impression.  None of
    this cleaning was performed and it proves how polluted a
    collection of email addresses one would receive when taking up
    a spammer on such an offer.  These CD's with addresses are of
    an extremely low quality.

    When all doubles (and triples, and ...) are removed from the
    lists, only 6,220,454 unique addresses remain.  Which is 57%
    of the number of addresses the spammers claims.  Two addresses
    even appear 14 times on the CD.

    Another notable thing is that there are more addresses that on
    the CD's twice than addresses with a single appearance.  Over
    60% of all addresses appear twice, while only 28% appears only
    once.


Jeff

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Linus Torvalds: SCO Is "Just Too Wrong"
From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley)
Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:47:44 GMT


> If anyone knows what's in Linux, it's Linus Torvalds.
> ...
> Torvalds explains why he thinks SCO is wrong.

I don't know. At least for NFS I think SCO probably has a compelling
argument they could make if they have the guts to make it with a
straight face:

NFS on standard unixes is without a doubt the most bug riddled,
unreliable, data dropping, file corrupting, cpu hanging, resource
sucking, subsystem ever coded by programmerkind.

SCO could easily demonstrate that Linux NFS is just as sucky and prone
to errors. How, therefore, could it possibly be equally bad if the
Linux programmers didn't steal it? :-).


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From: paravant@excite.com (procon)
Subject: CLEC Question
Date: 27 Jan 2004 17:37:34 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Wanted to confirm this -

CLEC (Competitive Local exchange carrier) is a company that competes
with already established local telephone companies by providing its
own network and switching capabilities. IT came about due to the
telecom act of 1996 which encouraged competition among both long
distance and local carriers. The act was passed in an effort to open
the local market to competition. In November of 1999, the FCC
established the Unbundled Network Element Platform (UNEP), which
requires that incumbent local exchange carriers (ILECs), among other
things, to begin offering competitive companies access to their
network elements on an unbundled basis at reasonable,
nondiscriminatory rates, or Total Element Long Run Incremental Cost
(TELRIC).

My questions are - 

1] Typically would it make sense for a CLEC to buy v/s lease from the
ILEC?

2] What are examples of major CLEC - eg is SBC Telecom a major CLEC?

3] What is meant by collocation? and associated terms - Physical
collocation, Virtual collocation, cageless collocation?

4] What are some of the transport alternatives of a CLEC? Eg what is
meant by "Unbundled" dedicated transport and "Unbundled" shared
transport.


Thanks.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Here are a few answers; I am sure other
readers will fill in the blanks. (1) Most CLECs lease from the telco
of record in the community of service. (2) I do not know how to
evaluate the word 'major'. (3)'Co-location' refers to the CLEC having
their switching equipment at the same location as the telco of record
in the community. For example, here in Independence, the SW Bell
central office is at the corner of 6th and Maple Streets. The CLECs
who have equipment in town have theirs in the same physical building.
They are located in the same building, or co-located. Terms like 
'cageless' and 'virtual' are sort of interchangeable. The CLECs have
to put their switching equipment and/or computers, etc inside a locked
(i.e. caged) area separate from that of Bell. Maybe other readers can
tell you more.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Why SCO's McBride Declared War
Organization: ATCC
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:22:32 GMT


In article <telecom23.42.14@telecom-digest.org>, clj@panix.com says:

> Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> writes:

>> Online Extra: Why SCO's McBride Declared War

>> Says the CEO about Linux: "It wasn't like we said, 'Oh, let's go find
>> people and sue them.' It was a gradual enforcement of our rights"

>> You have to give SCO Group ( SCOX ) CEO Darl McBride credit for one
>> thing: He's got moxie.

> First, in what way was it NOT like they said "Oh, let's sue"?  Saying
> that that isn't what they did doesn't change the fact that what they
> did looks EXACTLY like that.

> And no, I don't have to give Darl McBride credit for ANYTHING if I
> don't want to.  He can't make me, and siccing lawyers indiscriminately
> won't change that fact.  How did he end up in this universe without a
> clue, anyway?

I have a very low opinion of those who use the courts and our
legislators to fatten their own pockets. McBride falls beneath my
contempt because of this.

SCO doesn't have a leg to stand on -- this is a calculated risk to try
and inflate the value of the company. I highly doubt it will work
because SCO's credibility has been severely inhibited by it's
unwillingness to state exactly which lines of code are in violation,
if at all.

And in the 01/26/04 issue of eWeek I see that they've even testified 
before our congress critters that open source software is a national 
security issue. Their argument is that a scientist in North Korea could 
download Linux, install it on a bunch of machines and cluster them into 
a supercomputer for nuclear research. 

The congress critters to their credit, explained that if proper export 
controls were exercised this wouldn't be an issue. 

But let's face it, North Korea will get what it wants from Japan, not 
the U.S. 

I hope SCO goes down in flames for this one. 

------------------------------

From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers
Date: 27 Jan 2004 17:27:20 -0500
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


>> The number 011-800-4445-8667# when dialed from an Arlington, Virginia
>> home telephone produced a US style ring, and after about 10 or 12
>> rings went to a recording identifying itself as Hilton Honors, ...

Vonage gives me a fast busy, my ILEC gives a local intercept.

In both cases, I suspect that it's because nobody's noticed that ++800
is a valid country code.

------------------------------

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------------------------------

From: Matt <mattbliny@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cablevision a Top Bidder For Wireless Licenses
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:05:13 -0500


We see how did Cablevision did with Northcoast ....(/tounge in cheek)

Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.41.3@telecom-digest.org:

> NEW YORK, Jan 26 (Reuters) - VOOM, the satellite TV service set to be
> spun off from New York-area cable company Cablevision Systems
> (NYSE:CVC), is the top bidder for licenses to build a U.S.  wireless
> video and data network, according to Federal Communications Commission
> figures.

> The network would use an emerging technology called MVDDS, nor
> Multichannel Video Distribution and Data Service, which operates
> within the same spectrum of broadcast frequencies as satellite
> television services like DirecTV and DISH Network.  But it is
> transmitted from local microwave towers, allowing the broadcast of
> local channels and two-way high-speed data.

> Satellite broadcasters, who oppose the technology, say their spectrum
> is too crowded, diminishing the quality of their product.

>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40310951

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:20:56 +0400
From: Editor (PressReleaseNetwork.com)
Subject: Richard L. Kimsey Joins firstRain Advisory Board


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Telecommunications and Software Industry Veteran Brings Global
Experience Developing Strategic Partnerships and Relationships to
firstRain

New York, NY - January 27, 2004 (PRN): firstRain, Inc., the leading
provider portal enhancement technology, today announced the addition
of Richard (Rick) L. Kimsey to its Advisory Board. Mr. Kimsey is
currently the vice chairman of Trustfile, a business-tax filing
company that simplifies electronic preparation, filing and payment of
business taxes.

Mr. Kimsey is an accomplished executive who has been a pioneer in the
telecommunication field. Prior to joining Trustfile, he was President
and CEO of TelePacific Communications, where he led this pre-IPO
integrated communications provider through a high growth phase to one
of operational excellence. He also served on the company's Board of
Directors and Executive Committee. He joined the company from his
position as President, Southeast Region for Sprint PCS, the largest
all-digital and all-PCS nationwide wireless network in the United
States. As leader of Sprint PCS' most successful region, Rick was
responsible for a significant portion of the company's $6 billion in
annual revenue, and directed the activities of over 3,000
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acquired the broadband licenses on which its operations are based. He
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:11:06 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Acquires Strangeberry, Palo Alto-Based Company and Innovator


     Broadband Television Technologies
     - Jan 27, 2004 04:06 PM (PR Newswire)

Move Accelerates TiVo's Drive to Extend TiVo Service Beyond DVR

SAN JOSE, Calif., Jan. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo (Nasdaq:
TIVO) today announced that it has acquired Strangeberry Inc., a small
Palo Alto-based technology company specializing in using home network
and broadband technologies to create new entertainment experiences on
television.  The acquisition will enable TiVo to accelerate its
strategy, unveiled earlier this month at the Consumer Electronics Show
(CES), to extend the TiVo(R) service beyond digital video recording to
include a much broader, richer entertainment experience for
subscribers.

Strangeberry has created technology based on industry standards,
including a collection of powerful protocols and tools that will
enable the development of a host of new broadband-based content
delivery services for the TiVo platform. TiVo has acquired
Strangeberry's intellectual property assets and engineering staff in
exchange for equity. Financial terms of the deal have not been
disclosed.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40324266

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:17:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Comcast Redesigns Privacy Notice


By JENNIFER C. YATES Associated Press Writer

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Comcast Corp. will mail television customers its
privacy statement this week with revised language and a slicker
presentation it hopes will quell complaints over how the company could
use personal information.

The changes make clear when the cable giant will use personal
information such as Social Security and bank account numbers, names
and credit information. The old policy said the information could be
used "as otherwise necessary to provide the service," causing
complaints from regulators and consumer advocates who feared threats
to privacy.

Gerard Lewis, Philadelphia-based Comcast's senior counsel and chief
privacy officer, said there were no changes to the actual policy,
which is sent out annually in compliance with federal laws. He said
the changes in presentation _ including a question-and-answer section
_ and tightening of language were made as part of its annual revision
process.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40326505

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:19:39 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Homeland Security to Offer Cyber Warnings


By TED BRIDIS AP Technology Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans can sign up beginning Wednesday to
receive free cyber alerts and computer advice from the Homeland
Security Department to help protect themselves on the Internet.

The new National Cyber Alert System, expected to be announced
Wednesday, is an ambitious program to develop a trusted warning system
by the government to help home users and technology experts.  It will
send e-mails about major virus outbreaks and other Internet attacks as
they occur, along with detailed instructions to help computer users
protect themselves.

The effort is aimed at improving the overall security of the Internet,
a goal frustrated by increasingly complex software that can be
difficult to secure and by hackers learning to launch sophisticated
new attacks.


      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40328469

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:58:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Policy Post 10.02: Supreme Court to Consider Net Content 


CDT POLICY POST Volume 10, Number 2, January 26, 2004

A Briefing On Public Policy Issues Affecting Civil Liberties Online
from The Center For Democracy and Technology

(1) Supreme Court to Consider Net Content Controls; CDT Files Brief
(2) COPA, However Well Intentioned, Restricts Legal Speech Online
(3) Education and User Control, Not Legislation, Key to Protecting Children
 ...

http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_10.02.shtml

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:05:58 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EFF Action Alert: Airlines and Government Violate Your Privacy


EFFector       Vol. 17, No. 1       January 20, 2004

A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation     ISSN 1062-9424
In the 276th Issue of EFFector:

  * EFF Action Alert: Airlines and Government Violate Your 
    Privacy Again: Call for Hearings Now!
  * Update on CAPPS II: What's Next?
  * Guest Op-ed: "Your Finances, Your Liberties"
  * Nominate a Pioneer for EFF's 2004 Pioneer Awards!
  * Deep Links (11): SCO Sues Novell for Slander
  * EFF Court Docket: 02.03.04 - MGM v. Grokster; 02.09.04 - OPG v. Diebold
  * Staff Calendar: 01.22.04 - Fred von Lohmann speaks at 
    "Washington in the West" Conference, Long Beach, CA.; 01.25.04 - Gwen 
    Hinze speaks on file-sharing, Berkeley, CA.; 01.26.04 - Lee Tien 
    speaks on privacy, Battle Creek, MI
  * Administrivia

http://www.eff.org/effector/17/1.php

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:10:26 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: T-Mobile USA show biggest gains from new rules


By Sinead Carew

NEW YORK, Jan 27 (Reuters) - T-Mobile USA showed the
strongest gains so far from U.S. number switching rules on
Tuesday in the fourth quarter, growing faster than bigger
rivals AT&T Wireless Services Inc. <AWE.N> and Cingular
Wireless combined.

Deutsche Telekom's (DE:DTEGn) T-Mobile, the sixth largest
U.S. wireless service, said it added 1.015 million customers
and beat analysts' targets as it was helped by a rule that let
customers change service and keep their number. Wall Street
estimates ranged from 829,000 to 838,000 new customers.

AT&T Wireless, which put itself up for sale last week,
posted disappointing subscriber growth and an unexpected loss
due to the new rule and technical problems. Cingular added far
fewer subscribers than T-Mobile and posted a smaller profit.

Roe Equity Research analyst Kevin Roe said he was pleased with
T-Mobile's subscriber additions, but questioned how profitable those
subscribers were, given the industry wide hike in customer acquisition
costs amid fierce competition.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40323827

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:06:52 -0500
From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@wn.net>
Subject: Re: CLEC Question


At 27 Jan 2004 17:37:34 -0800 paravant@excite.com (procon) asked,

> Wanted to confirm this -

> CLEC (Competitive Local exchange carrier) is a company that competes
> with already established local telephone companies by providing its
> own network and switching capabilities.

Not necessarily.  A CLEC can engage in "total service resale", though
it's not usually a good business.  It can also provide its own
switching while using the ILEC's transmission.

> 1] Typically would it make sense for a CLEC to buy v/s lease from the
> ILEC?

Buy from whom?  The ILEC only provides "services" or "elements", not
equipment.  The CLEC can buy its own equipment build its own
facilities, but that tends to make sense only when there's enough
concentrated volume in a given geography to make it worthwhile.

> 2] What are examples of major CLEC - eg is SBC Telecom a major CLEC?

No, SBC is not a major CLEC, just a token activity created to meet a
merger condition, and I think they paid the fine for not making it a
real business. Major CLECs include -- this is just a sample -- AT&T
(the local side, f/k/a Teleport), MCI (its CLECs include MFS, MCI
Metro ATS, and Brooks Fiber), Allegiance (recent Ch. 11), Focal (went
through Ch. 11), PacWest, Paetec, Level3, and a few others.  Note
however that many "major" CLECs -- the ones who got too much money up
front -- have had problems, while little privately-held local guys are
doing fine, or at least getting by.  A lot of little rural ILECs also
operate as CLECs in nearby areas where the ILECs are larger.

> 3] What is meant by collocation? and associated terms - Physical
> collocation, Virtual collocation, cageless collocation?
 
Physical collocation -- CLEC gets a cage in the ILEC's wire center.
Cageless collocation -- CLEC puts a rack (no cage) in the ILEC's wire
center.  

Virtual  collocation -- CLEC has ILEC install its equipment in ILEC's
part of the wire center, where the ILEC techs have to maintain it.
Usually done in small COs that have no room for anything else, or when
there's only a little bit of equipment (like a mux) that doesn't need
much work.

> 4] What are some of the transport alternatives of a CLEC? Eg what is
> meant by "Unbundled" dedicated transport and "Unbundled" shared
> transport.

Dedicated transport -- CLEC gets fixed bandwidth (DS-1, DS-3) between
ILEC locations, which it can use for almost anything.  Shared
transport -- CLEC leases local switching from ILEC (UNE Platform) and
its calls go on the same trunks as calls made by ILEC subscribers;
this is where that trunk usage is paid for.


  Fred Goldstein    k1io  fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
  ionary Consulting       http://www.ionary.com/ 

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Verizon Supercharged DSL for Additional Massachusetts Customers
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:56:44 -0600


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> In order to extend the reach of the company's super-fast digital
> subscriber line (DSL) Internet access service to Massachusetts
> consumers and businesses, Verizon installed digital equipment in
> telecommunications terminals located in neighborhoods where DSL
> service was previously not available.  This resulted in an increase of
> 180,000 DSL-qualified telephone lines in areas of Greater Boston, Cape
> Cod and Western Massachusetts, as well as in towns north, south and
> west of Boston.  The company completed the project last month.

> During the past three years, Verizon has invested more than $2 billion
> in its network that serves Massachusetts.

>     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40321806

Of note is that roughly five miles from the Verizon Apple Valley CO at
Navajo Road and State Highway 18 in Apple Valley, California, Verizon
tells me I can now get DSL at my house. Apparently they have done some
work out here to extend the reach of their DSL services too.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Cablevision a Top Bidder For Wireless Licenses
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:01:51 -0600


Matt <mattbliny@hotmail.com> wrote:

> We see how did Cablevision did with Northcoast ....(/tounge in cheek)

Speaking from direct experience in the first city in which they launched:

A couple years ago I turned on my Northcoast PCS service. A month
after launch they still had tons of phone numbers and I was able to
get (440) 342-GEEK, which was really cool. :) Service worked fine for
about 10 months, and then they started dropping calls on Interstate 90
between Lakewood, Ohio and down- town Cleveland.

Lots of calls, that is.

I had a Verizon phone I used for travel anyhow, so I switched to
Verizon full-time. Unfortunately I was not able to keep my number as
WLNP wasn't in force back then.

Cablevision sucks as a cable TV provider. I don't see why they should
be expected to do any better with other ventures. They're
exceptionally clueless.  (Cablevision was the franchise holder for
Cleveland and most of its suburbs until they pulled out in 2000 and
sold their network to Adelphia.)

I expect VOOM to be the Cleveland Indians of the broadband
world. (implicit reference to the fact that since the brother of the
CEO of Cablevision bought the Indians, they've gone to hell in a
handbasket. :)


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
PGP: C57E 8B25 F994 D6D0 5F6B B961 EA08 9410 E3AE 35ED

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Getting True, Important Security Updates from Microsoft
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 05:29:10 GMT


In article <telecom23.43.5@telecom-digest.org>, Jeffrey Mattox
<address withheld at users request> wrote:

> Here's a site that allows you to enter a URL, any URL, even a 
> massively long URL, and it gives you a relatively short "alias" to 
> that URL that you can use in postings.

>     http://tinyurl.com/

But doesn't this miss the point of the recommendation to type the URL
manually?  That idea of that was that you would realize when you're
typing a bogus URL (e.g. you wouldn't be fooled by "micr0s0ft.com").
If you type a tinyurl.com or makeashortlink.com URL, you have no idea
where it's really going to, so you're effectively following a random
link.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

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    A Visit From the FBI (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon Wireless Launches Complete Connectivity Solution (Monty Solomon)
    LG Mobile Phones and Verizon Wireless Blend Must-Have Style (Solomon)
    Satellite Radio Competition Heats Up (Monty Solomon)
    RealNetworks' Helix Player Project Wins Award for Best Open (M Solomon)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:12:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: A Visit From the FBI


By Scott Granneman

Well, it finally happened. Right before Christmas, I had a little
visit from the FBI. That's right: an agent from the Federal Bureau of
Investigation came to see me. He had some things he wanted to talk
about. He stayed a couple of hours, and then went on his way.
Hopefully he got what he wanted. I know I did.

Let me explain. I teach technology classes at Washington University in
St. Louis, a fact that I mentioned in a column from 22 October 2003
titled, "Joe Average User Is In Trouble". In that column, I talked
about the fact that most ordinary computer users have no idea about
what security means. They don't practice secure computing because they
don't understand what that means. After that column came out, I
received a lot of email. One of those emails was from Dave Thomas,
former chief of computer intrusion investigations at FBI headquarters,
and current Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the St. Louis
Division of the FBI.

Dave had this to say: "I have spent a considerable amount in the
computer underground and have seen many ways in which clever
individuals trick unsuspecting users. I don't think most people have a
clue just how bad things are." He then offered to come speak to my
students about his experiences.

I did what I think most people would do: I emailed Dave back
immediately and we set up a date for his visit to my class.

http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/215


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Indeed, they do not have any idea about
how bad things are on the net with identity theft, fraud, spam and
viruses.  I listen very patietly to my mother, for example, and the
other day she asked me quite innocently, "Has your computer ever
gotten one of those virus things?" When I responded "only about a 
hundred or so each day, if I do not keep my firewall and virus
checkers in place all the time," she was absolutely astounded. She,
like most casual computer users -- most people -- do not have even an
iota of the amount of trouble going on with the net. While I do NOT
approve of it, I am frankly very surprised that the government (the
feds) have not long ago clamed down very sternly, very heavily on
the trouble makers. Like many folks around here, long ago I was an
anarchist also, but any longer, I am not so sure at all.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:50:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Wireless Launches Complete Connectivity Solution


     Verizon Wireless Launches Complete Connectivity Solution for
     Mobile Subscribers - Remo(TM) by Xpherix Corporation

Available Through Verizon Wireless' Get It Now(R) Service, the Affordably
           Priced Remo Incorporates E-mail, Contacts, and Calendar

BEDMINSTER, N.J. and SAN JOSE, Calif., Jan. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon
Wireless, the nation's largest wireless service provider, and Xpherix
Corporation, the leading provider of personalized mobile connectivity
solutions, today announced the launch of Remo on Verizon Wireless' Get
It Now service. For less than $8 monthly access, Remo is a powerful
communications tool that provides remote access to e-mail, contacts,
and calendars through an everyday data-enabled wireless phone.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40331025

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:51:31 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: LG Mobile Phones and Verizon Wireless Blend Must-Have Style


The New VX4500 Handset Offers Perfect Marriage of High Fashion
and Sophistication

SAN DIEGO and BEDMINSTER, N.J., Jan. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- LG Mobile Phones
and Verizon Wireless announce their newest handset, the VX4500 will be
available to customers on Jan. 29.  Equipped with some of the most advanced
functions available today, the VX4500 offers the latest in voice recognition
commands and two-way speakerphone technology.

The VX4500's two-way speakerphone allows customers to speak hands-free
with one push of a button.  With its powerful voice recognition
command system, users can access their contacts, voicemail, schedules
and time information quickly, accurately and safely, without touching
the keypad.  The VX4500 also features a color screen and external LCD
screen so users can see caller ID without flipping open the phone.
The external screen can also be set to flash a different color for
events such as incoming calls, a new voice mail message, text message
or missed call.

The VX4500 gives consumers a sleek new twist on LG's trademark
clamshell design and an extensive selection of must-have features they
have come to expect from LG.  The VX4500 functions as a personal
organizer with a phone book that stores up to 499 names with five
numbers and three email address per contact, a calendar with
scheduler, built-in alarm clock, CMX MIDI sound, 36 standard ring
tones and speed dialing.  The VX4500 also features English and Spanish
language options, T9 text input, five-way navigation key, TTY/TDD, SMS
capabilities and is E911 capable.  Connecting the phone to a local PC
network is easy with the VX4500's external USB capability and Openwave
UP 4.1 browser.

The VX4500 is also Get It Now(R)-enabled.  Verizon Wireless' Get It
Now service is a one-stop virtual mall that gives customers a myriad
of choices in downloadable pay-as-you-go options that include games,
ring tones and productivity tools.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40331014

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:48:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Satellite Radio Competition Heats Up


NEW YORK (AP) -- The satellite radio business is getting feistier.
Leading provider XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. is making its music
channels commercial-free, taking away an advantage touted by its more
expensive rival, Sirius Satellite Radio Inc.

Sirius executives have said their higher price was justified largely
because Sirius delivers commercial-free music, though there are a few
ads on its talk, news and sports stations. Meanwhile, XM had a few
minutes of commercials each hour on all of its channels.

But XM is going ad-free on its music channels as of Sunday, without
raising the subscription price. XM also plans to introduce local
traffic and weather channels in many markets this year.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40335533

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:50:08 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: RealNetworks' Helix Player Project Wins Award 


Helix Player Fast Becoming the Standard for Linux Audio and Video

SEATTLE, Jan. 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- RealNetworks(R), Inc.
(Nasdaq: RNWK), the leading creator of digital media services and
software, today announced that the Helix(TM) Player, the first
commercial grade, open source and multi-format digital media player,
has been awarded top honors by the LinuxWorld Product Excellence
Awards, as unveiled at LinuxWorld Conference & Expo(R) 2004 held last
week in New York.  The Helix Player was recognized for being the 'Best
Open Source Project'.

Innovative products across 10 categories were nominated for awards.
The Helix Player project, https://player.helixcommunity.org , was
singled out to receive the award for best open source project over;
KDE 3.2, Gentoo Linux, and Sun's JXTA.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40335064

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:53:12 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: U.S. Cable Rates Rose 5.1 Pct in Latest Year - FCC


WASHINGTON, Jan 28 (Reuters) - Prices for cable television in the
United States rose 5.1 percent in the year ended June 30, 2003, more
than twice the rate of inflation, the Federal Communications
Commission said on Wednesday.

The annual report, required by Congress, also showed satellite
television services adding customers faster than cable operators.

The jump in cable prices was more than two-and-a-half times the
general inflation rate, which rose 2.1 percent over the same
period. In the prior 12 months, cable rates had skyrocketed 6.3
percent while inflation rose 1.1 percent.

Satellite television providers like EchoStar Communications
Corp. <DISH.O> and DirecTV <NCP.AX> saw a 12.1 percent incre in
subscribers, to 20.4 million up from 18.2 million, while cable
companies added about 1.7 million customers, according to the FCC. The
report does not examine satellite television prices.

The four biggest cable operators, Comcast Corp. (NASDAQ:CMCSA), Time
Warner Inc. (NYSE:TWX), Charter Communications Inc. (NASDAQ:CHTR) and
Cox Communications (NYSE:COX), served about 50.5 percent of cable
subscribers in June 2003, down slightly from 51.7 percent the previous
year.

While some blame deregulation of cable rates for the increases, the
cable industry blames increased costs for programming and labor, the
FCC said.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40336481

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:54:21 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Court Hears About FCC Competition Rules


By HOPE YEN Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Communications Commission was back in
court Wednesday with challengers who say its rules for telephone and
Internet services unfairly restrict competition and give states too
much regulatory power.

The government requires regional phone companies to lease portions of
their local networks to competitors at wholesale rates. The companies
_ BellSouth Corp., SBC Communications, Verizon Communications and
Qwest Communications _ say that allows others to use their networks at
artificially low prices.

Meanwhile, competitors are challenging rules that allow the regional
companies to keep their high-speed fiber optic lines off limits to
Internet rivals.

The companies are challenging the FCC rules for a third time. The
agency approved changes giving the states more authority in February
2003 on a contentious 3-2 vote, leading to litigation after the rules
were released in August.

The ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia,
expected sometime this spring, could determine the corporate winners
in the rapidly expanding broadband market and the declining landline
phone business.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40338711

------------------------------

From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: US court Casts Doubt on Telecom Network Rules
Date: 28 Jan 2004 14:25:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


By Peter Kaplan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two appeals court judges Wednesday sharply
criticized rules that force U.S. local telephone carriers to continue
leasing their networks to rivals at government-mandated prices,
signaling that the court could overturn the rules.

The two judges, on the three-judge appeals panel, said the U.S.
Federal Communications Commission erred by giving state regulators
instructions to enforce the new network-sharing rules.

http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2004/01/28/rtr1232084.html


Eric Friedebach

------------------------------

From: Rob Slade <rslade@sprint.ca>
Organization: Vancouver Institute for Research into User 
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:34:07 -0800
Subject: Book Review: Kerberos: The Definitive Guide, Jason Garman


BKKRBSDG.RVW   20031018

"Kerberos: The Definitive Guide", Jason Garman, 2003, 0-596-00403-6,
U$34.95/C$54.95
%A   Jason Garman
%C   103 Morris Street, Suite A, Sebastopol, CA   95472
%D   2003
%G   0-596-00403-6
%I   O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
%O   U$34.95/C$54.95 800-998-9938 fax: 707-829-0104 nuts@ora.com
%O   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004036/robsladesinterne
     http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004036/robsladesinte-21
%O   http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004036/robsladesin03-20
%P   253 p.
%T   "Kerberos: The Definitive Guide"

Kerberos is not flashy, but it is a venerable and mature technology.
Yes, it has limited scalability, but most of the "successful" PKI
(Public Key Infrastructure) projects are small enough that they could
easily have been accomplished with Kerberos technology: an eminently
elegant solution to the problem of communicating and authenticating
over any channel that is, or must be, assumed to be insecure.

Chapter one provides a history, base concepts, and variants of
Kerberos.  Terms and components are given in chapter two.  The
Needham-Schroeder work, and the idea of ticket-granting, is in chapter
three.  Implementation, in chapter four, reviews design, UNIX and
Windows servers, and special considerations for a mixed environment.
The troubleshooting chapter, five, for once comes early enough in a
book to be of use.  Security aspects external to Kerberos, and
specific settings for different implementations, are covered in
chapter six.  Chapter seven looks at some generic support for
applications, as well as some specific programs that already have
Kerberos support built in.  Cross realm trust is one of the advanced
topics, but most of chapter eight concentrates on special requirements
for Windows.  Chapter nine is a kind of review of the book, involving
the various topics that have been discussed in a sample Kerberos
installation.  Chapter ten looks at the future of Kerberos, with
possible public key additions, Web applications, and smartcards.  An
appendix contains an administrative command list.

While Kerberos may not be as highly regarded as the more
mathematically complex asymmetric cryptographic systems, it still have
many uses, and this book provides the outline, background, and details
to help you take full advantage of them.

copyright Robert M. Slade, 2003   BKKRBSDG.RVW   20031018

======================  (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)
rslade@vcn.bc.ca      slade@victoria.tc.ca      rslade@sun.soci.niu.edu
Buying the right computer and getting it to work properly is no
more complicated than building a nuclear reactor from wristwatch
parts in a darkened room using only your teeth.         - Dave Barry
http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev    or    http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade

------------------------------

From: Michael Ryan <mr2315@hotNoSpamPleasemail.com>
Subject: Metrobility/Transition DS3 to Fiber Extenders
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:51:00 -0600


Hi,

Has anyone had any experience with either Metrobility or Transition
fiber extenders?  I'm looking for a recommendation to extend two DS3's
about 1000ft.  Both products look like they'll work, but the
Transition product is about 2-3 times the price.  I've used their
products in the past, but have never heard of Metrobility.

Thanks in advance,

Michael

(Remove the NoSpamPlease to send me an email)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:03:53 -0500 (EST)
From: John R. Covert <nospam@covert.org>
Subject: Re: Overseas Toll Free Numbers


John Levine wrote:

> Vonage gives me a fast busy ... I suspect that it's because nobody's
> noticed that +800 is a valid country code.

On April 30th, 2003, I wrote to the VP of customer service at Vonage:

  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:32 PM
  Subject: International Toll Free Service

  Vonage appears to not process 011-800-nnnn-nnnn.

  These are toll-free numbers, and should work even if "international
  calling" is turned off, since there is never any charge.

  Two test numbers are Hong Kong Cable and Wireless: 011-800-2000-2000
  and Sweden Direct: 011-800-4600-4600.

  Please let me know when they are working.

  Thanks/john

I received the following reply:

  John,

  We do not support toll-free international calling, only domestic.

  Sincerely,

  Vonage DigitalVoice Customer Care
  1-VONAGE-HELP (1-866-243-4357)

I persisted:

  Are you not able to just hand it off to a carrier which does support
  it, just like you hand 800 service off?  It is just an extension of
  800 service, isn't it?

And got this reply:

  I am not sure but I will check and get back to you.

  Sincerely,

  Vonage DigitalVoice Customer Care
  1-VONAGE-HELP (1-866-243-4357)

But she never replied.

/john

------------------------------

From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: Why SCO's McBride Declared War
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:52:05 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


noname wrote:

> In article <telecom23.42.14@telecom-digest.org>, clj@panix.com says:
> I have a very low opinion of those who use the courts and our
> legislators to fatten their own pockets. McBride falls beneath my
> contempt because of this.

Well, I don't want to paint them all with the same brush because I do
understand that there are people out there who steal others ideas and
make money on them, often ruining the original inventor's reputation
in the process by misleading the customer into confusing the two.  I
therefore understand SCO's lawsuit against IBM.  However, SCO's
letters to Linux end users asking for licensing fees now and
threatening higher damages at a later date based on unproven claims to
rights ... well, that's extortion that should make the mob jealous.  (I
hereby claim that analogy, as I'm in the process of writing -- in my
scant spare time -- an article making this comparison in more dramatic
style.  However, should the FTC or the DOJ decide to pursue action
against SCO, I hereby grant them an unlimited non-transferrable
royalty-free license to use it.)

> SCO doesn't have a leg to stand on

I don't know that for sure and I don't think that any one person can
know that for sure, but SCO's own actions suggest that the whole suit
is far from kosher.  If I was SCO and I honestly believed what SCO is
saying, I'd be calling a press conference and showing the media as
many examples of stolen code as I could cram into a session -- or, if I
didn't want to be accused of holding the trial in the court of public
opinion, I'd have Gartner, IDC, and every analyst I could get over to
look at it and express their own opinions.  Since the whole source
code to Linux is publicly available, what does SCO stand to lose by
revealing which portions they claim are theirs?  If everyone rushes to
exorcise SCO's code from Linux, that doesn't destroy evidence of past
wrongdoing.  Are they hoping that, by not revealing which code is
infringing, others will unwittingly make use of it and become targets
for future extortion^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h lawsuits?


Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
Commodore PET

------------------------------

From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: Linus Torvalds: SCO Is "Just Too Wrong"
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:03:35 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Thomas A. Horsley wrote:

> SCO could easily demonstrate that Linux NFS is just as sucky and prone
> to errors. How, therefore, could it possibly be equally bad if the
> Linux programmers didn't steal it? :-).

I was going to comment that the history of software development has
proven that there is no limit to how badly software can be written,
but your comment raises a very interesting question:

If I recall correctly, NFS was developed by Sun.  Or maybe Bill Joy's
team at Berkeley.  In any case, it's been passed around pretty freely
and I believe that the specifications are available in public
documents which may or may not mention licensing conditions.  Under
the terms of Sun't UNIX license, is NFS Sun's to give away or SCO's to
license?  SCO's claims about IBM would suggest the latter, unless
IBM's license is very different from Sun's.  Or is the question
irrelevant because Sun paid off SCO?  And did Sun pay off SCO for this
reason, or just to cover their behinds for distributing Linux?

Also, if all NFS implementations are based on the same publicly
available specification, would similar or even identical bugs
necessarily be the result of copied code, or the natural result when
similarly educated/trained/experienced people working with similar
tools in a similar environment sit down to implement the same
specification?


Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
Always looking for a good condition original 'chicklet keyboard'
Commodore PET

------------------------------

Subject: Re: New Virus Infects PCs, Whacks SCO
Reply-To: jhaynes@alumni.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas Alumni
From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:31:09 GMT


And now SCO has offered a reward for information leading to the arrest
and conviction of the virus author.



jhaynes at alumni dot uark dot edu

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: CLEC Question
Organization: ATCC
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:15:35 GMT


In article <telecom23.43.10@telecom-digest.org>, paravant@excite.com 
says:
 
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Here are a few answers; I am sure other
> readers will fill in the blanks. (1) Most CLECs lease from the telco
> of record in the community of service. (2) I do not know how to
> evaluate the word 'major'. (3)'Co-location' refers to the CLEC having
> their switching equipment at the same location as the telco of record
> in the community. For example, here in Independence, the SW Bell
> central office is at the corner of 6th and Maple Streets. The CLECs
> who have equipment in town have theirs in the same physical building.
> They are located in the same building, or co-located. Terms like 
> 'cageless' and 'virtual' are sort of interchangeable. The CLECs have
> to put their switching equipment and/or computers, etc inside a locked
> (i.e. caged) area separate from that of Bell. Maybe other readers can
> tell you more.    PAT]

The CO in Providence doesn't cage -- they do it by floor
access. Whereas years ago every floor of the building contained
switching gear (It's an 8 or 10 story building -- I never really
counted.) now there are offices on the 1st floor where the cable
terminations used to be, 2nd is the cable term now, 4th is where
PRVDRIWADS0 sits, and that leaves 3 and 5 through 10 for the other
switches. There's even a blockhouse on the roof for AT&T.

------------------------------

From: howard@rumba.ee.ualberta.ca (Walt Howard)
Subject: Re: Homeland Security to Offer Cyber Warnings
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:12:23 UTC
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site


In article <telecom23.44.3@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> By TED BRIDIS AP Technology Writer

> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans can sign up beginning Wednesday to
> receive free cyber alerts and computer advice from the Homeland
> Security Department to help protect themselves on the Internet.

Is this the same Homeland Security Department that runs their own
computers with the least-secure operating system available?

> The new National Cyber Alert System, expected to be announced
> Wednesday, is an ambitious program to develop a trusted warning system
> by the government to help home users and technology experts.  It will
> send e-mails about major virus outbreaks and other Internet attacks as
> they occur, along with detailed instructions to help computer users
> protect themselves.

Oh, goody.  Now I can not only get forged emails from Microsoft with
the "latest security update", I can get them "from" the government as
well.  I can hardly contain my joy.

> The effort is aimed at improving the overall security of the Internet,

Coming from an outfit that can't even secure its own network, it's
unlikely to help much.

> a goal frustrated by increasingly complex software that can be
> difficult to secure and by hackers learning to launch sophisticated
> new attacks.

Right.  The recent MyDoom virus was so crude it was laughable, but it
still spread pretty fast.


Walt Howard                         /"\  ASCII Ribbon Campaign
InterNet: whoward@ieee.org          \ /  No HTML in mail or news!
BellNet: +1 780 492 6306             X
                                    / \

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:47:00 GMT
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Words and Numbers (was: T-Mobile USA Show Biggest Gains)
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


> Deutsche Telekom's (DE:DTEGn) T-Mobile, the sixth largest
> U.S. wireless service, said it added 1.015 million customers

Purely as a curiosity, why would anyone write "1.015 million" instead
of "1,015,000" (or, even better, "just over a million customers")?


-Joel

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Subject: Share Day For January
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    ATI Delivers Personal Video Recording To PC For Every Budget (M Solomon)
    Super Bowl Retains Status as Must-Buy Television (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon Reports Solid Overall Fourth-Quarter and Year-End (M Solomon)
    Verizon Adds DIRECTV Programming, Creating the Most (Monty Solomon)
    VOIP Over Private IP (Nyuk Fah)
    Re: CLEC Question (Dana)
    Tip-Toeing Quietly With Nikeno.com (freshjada)
    Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message? (DaveC)
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:07:51 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: ATI Delivers Personal Video Recording To The PC For Every Budget


MARKHAM, Ontario--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 26, 2004--

   Three new ALL-IN-WONDER(R) solutions also offer easy video editing
             and amazing video graphics for great game play

Watching TV on your PC has never been more affordable thanks to new
additions to the ALL-IN-WONDER(R) family of video graphics cards. ATI
Technologies Inc. (TSX:ATY) (NASDAQ:ATYT) today announced
ALL-IN-WONDER(R) 9600XT, ALL-IN-WONDER(R) 9600, and ALL-IN-WONDER(R)
9200. These new graphics cards offer exciting personal video recording
of favorite television programs, easy-to-use video editing, and
amazing graphics for great gaming experiences at prices for any
consumer's budget.

The family of best-in-class multimedia video cards, featuring
ALL-IN-WONDER(R) 9800 PRO, now includes several new additions.
ALL-IN-WONDER 9600XT delivers more multimedia features for customers
by offering the fastest RADEON(TM) 9600 series performance with a
graphics engine clocked at 525 MHz and 128 MB of memory running at 650
MHz. At USD$299, this new multimedia solution includes
FM-ON-DEMAND(TM) to receive and record favorite FM radio stations,
dual VGA monitor support, the second generation and completely
redesigned REMOTE WONDER(TM) II, integrated DVD authoring and burning,
and MULTIMEDIA CENTER(TM) 8.8.


http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401261101_BWR__BW5411

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401261001_CCN_0126004n

http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2004/4728.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:58:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Super Bowl Retains Status as Must-Buy Television


By STUART ELLIOTT

Twenty years after the Super Bowl first became as big a day for
advertising as it is for professional football, Madison Avenue is
gearing up for what looks to be a cheerier, somewhat sillier and
certainly more expensive version of the annual midwinter festival of
commercialism.

The Ad Bowl within Super Bowl XXXVIII, to be broadcast on Sunday by 
CBS, will be infused with oversize servings of ingredients like 
humor, schmaltz, special effects and anthropomorphic animals.

Instead of the Budweiser horses bowing in the direction of ground 
zero as in 2002, a donkey will be shown dreaming of becoming a 
Clydesdale. And rather than Pepsi-Cola's sweet nostalgia of two years 
ago when Britney Spears danced and sang her way through the decades, 
the brand's newest commercial will serenade 16 teenagers sued by the 
recording industry for illegal file sharing with "I Fought the Law 
(and the Law Won).''

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/29/business/29adcol.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:05:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Reports Solid Overall Fourth-Quarter and Year-End


Market-Share Gains in Wireless, Long-Distance and Broadband Bolster
                     Revenues and Cash Flow

                               2003 HIGHLIGHTS

    Earnings Per Share:

      -- Fourth quarter:  53 cent fully diluted per share loss, or 58 cent
         fully diluted earnings per share (EPS) before special items
         (non-GA AP measure)

      -- Year-end:  $1.11 in EPS, or $2.62 EPS before special items 
         (non-GAAP)

    Revenues:

      -- Fourth quarter:  up 0.7 percent, or 2.6 percent with consistent
         directory accounting treatment (non-GAAP)

      -- Year-end:  up 0.7 percent, or 1.7 percent in comparable growth as
         well as consistent directory accounting treatment (non-GAAP)

    Wireless:

      -- Fourth quarter: a record 1.5 million total net customer
         additions (1.4 million retail net additions), up 54.2 percent from
         last year's quarter; revenue growth of 14.6 percent;
         record-low retail and total churn; strong operating income margins

      -- Year-end:  a record 5.0 million total net customer additions,
         (4.6 million retail net additions); 37.5 million total customers;
         total revenues of $22.5 billion, up 15.5 percent over 2002

    Domestic Telecom:

      -- More than $2 billion in annual long-distance revenues, with
         in-region retail market penetration of 41 percent; 16.6
         million  total long-distance lines

      -- 2.3 million total DSL (digital subscriber lines); 203,000 fourth-
         quarter net additions

      -- Nearly 1,200 contracts with large businesses for Enterprise Advance
         services

    Cash Management:
      -- Capital expenditures of $11.9 billion, compared with $13.1 billion
         in 2002

      -- Free cash flow (non-GAAP, cash from operating activities less
         capital expenditures and dividends) of $6.4 billion, up 31.4
         percent compared with $4.8 billion in 2002

      -- Total debt of $45.4 billion, compared with $53.3 billion at
         year-end 2002; Net debt (non-GAAP, gross debt less cash and
         cash equivalents) of $44.7 billion, compared with $51.8
         billion at year-end 2002.

    Note:  See the schedules accompanying this news release and

www.verizon.com/investor

for reconciliations to generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP)
           for the non-GAAP financial measures mentioned in this
           announcement.

NEW YORK, Jan. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Communications
Inc. (NYSE:VZ) today announced fourth-quarter and year-end 2003
results highlighted by customer gains in wireless, long-distance and
broadband, continued solid cash flow, and overall revenue growth.

For the fourth quarter 2003, Verizon reported a loss of $1.5 billion
(53 cents in fully diluted EPS) that includes $3.1 billion in special
items, primarily $2.9 billion in previously announced costs associated
with a voluntary separation plan under which more than 21,000
employees left the payroll in the quarter.  Excluding special items,
Verizon earned $1.6 billion in the quarter, or 58 cents per share.

For the year, Verizon reported earnings of $3.1 billion ($1.11 per
share), or $7.3 billion ($2.62 per share) before special items.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40343367

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:38:27 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon Adds DIRECTV Programming, Creating the Most


      Verizon Adds DIRECTV Programming, Creating the Most
      Comprehensive, Top-Quality Service Bundle in the Market
      - Jan 29, 2004 09:19 AM (PR Newswire)

First Verizon/DIRECTV Packages Will Roll Out Tuesday in Rhode Island;
Headed for Additional Northeast and Mid-Atlantic Markets Soon

NEW YORK and EL SEGUNDO, Calif., Jan. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Already the
market leader in sales of innovative, discounted bundles of calling,
Internet access and wireless services, Verizon is introducing new
offers that include DIRECTV, the nation's leading digital television
entertainment service.

The new packages will be rolled out in Rhode Island on Tuesday and
then in New England and the mid-Atlantic states in the coming months,
with additional markets to follow.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40345564

------------------------------

From: nyukfah@pd.jaring.my (nyuk fah)
Subject: VOIP Over Private IP
Date: 28 Jan 2004 19:01:51 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi all,

My current internet connection is private ip and behind a firewall.
Thus I wonder any solution VOIP over HTTP? Which I can solve the
private IP and firewall limitation?

------------------------------

From: Dana <***@&^&.com>
Subject: Re: CLEC Question
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:12:39 -0900
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@wn.net> wrote in message
news:telecom23.44.7@telecom-digest.org:

> Dedicated transport -- CLEC gets fixed bandwidth (DS-1, DS-3) between
> ILEC locations, which it can use for almost anything.  Shared
> transport -- CLEC leases local switching from ILEC (UNE Platform) and
> its calls go on the same trunks as calls made by ILEC subscribers;
> this is where that trunk usage is paid for.

Good reply.

My question is do we really need to have legislation mandating that
the local sell to it's competitor, just so the competitor can resell
the same service.

The local company before wireless was actually a natural monopoly, who
today would put up with all the wires/fiber needed if there was more
than one company serving any giving area.

But now with the advent of wireless, and the huge expansion of the
cellular companies, you now have technologies that can compete with
the wired local company, and these wireless carriers, being that they
have switches of their own, they can even offer long distance on there
excess capacity.

------------------------------

From: freshjada@hotmail.com (freshjada)
Subject: Tip-Toeing Quietly With Nikeno.com
Date: 29 Jan 2004 06:12:43 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


By Mike Townsend
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Serial Netrepreneur Micheal Beevor Today announced at a lavish press
conference the launching of Nikeno.com.

By moving slowing a new market which will combine a new concept of
Online Communities with Free Online betting, Beevor's notion of
creating a new field looks like a good bet.

With some 2 million pounds in funding and low costs overheads it looks
as though one company at least has learned the lessons of the Internet
bubble.

------------------------------

From: DaveC <me@privacy.net>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:53:46 -0800
Reply-To: me@privacy.net


On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:51:31 -0800, Paul Vader wrote
(in article <telecom23.41.7@telecom-digest.org>):

> It's actually pretty trivial -- send a message to a whacko address
> on your ISP's mailserver, and mimic the resulting bounce message
> that gets sent to you. If you're doing this for specific people that
> you actually know and don't like, it's harmless enough.

The content of the "bounce" message is easy to generate, as you point
out.  But how do I change the "from" address to reflect something
other than my real address? Doesn't the mail server tag it as coming
from me?

Using Eudora 5.

Thanks,

DaveC
me@privacy.net

This is an invalid return address. Please reply in the news group

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most computers have a user account 
known as 'Mail Daemon' (often times running with root privileges)
which send out those notices. Set up a user called Mail Daemon to 
get that 'from' address.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
Subject: Re: 'You've Got Problems!'
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:34:52 -0700
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com



On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:39:34 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> And during the game, we'll see the father-and-son cast of the cable TV
> show "American Chopper" promoting a new AOL feature that will speed up
> Web surfing, even for customers who use slow telephone modem
> connections. It's a colorful and costly effort to convince Internet
> users that one of the old titans of the Internet hasn't sunk into
> irrelevance.

NetZero has been offering such caching/data-compression features in
their NetZero HiSpeed service for quite a while. Earthlink also offers
a service, EarthLink Plus.

An article comparing the services and prices is at:

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Aug/gee20030820021395.htm

The article, published 8/20/03, prices NetZero's service is
$14.95/month; AOL's service is $23.95/month, and Earthlink's service
at $28.95/month. The article describes a benchmark AOL comissioned
with VeriTest. The benchmark shows AOL with the fastest service. A
copy of the report is available at:

http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/aol/aol9.pdf

Interestingly, AOL does not publish the benchmark results on their own
website. I googled for "netzero hispeed" on the aol.com website, but
got no hits.

--phil

------------------------------

Subject: Here is the Norvergence Matrix Gear Solution
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:29:58 -0500
From: David Lepak <dlepak@ashleyremi.com>


Here it is ... see bottom for total cost:

MATRIX BOX

http://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?Product=3Dcom.webridge.entity

http://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?product=3DADTRAN CORPORATION

MODULES

All modules:

http://www.adtran.com/static/ENTERPRISEPRODUCTS/INTEGRATEDACCESS/TOTALACCESS850MODULES/


Echo cancellation:

http://www.adtran.com/static/ENTERPRISEPRODUCTS/INTEGRATEDACCESS/TOTALACCESS850MODULES/1203384L2.htm


MATRIX BOX

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=3D330749


ADTRAN POWER ADAPTER AND CHARGER

http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/RESULTS.ASPX?key=3Dadtran+1175043L3&platform=3Dall


TOTAL COST

1884.97

------------------------------

From: Donny Rumsfeld <rumsfeldrules@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:09:45 -0500
Subject: Re: FCC vrs. fax.com


I found out they have renamed themselves and split up.  Here's some email 
addresses:

danello@chooseimpact.com
lburnett@chooseimpact.com
rmattern@chooseimpact.com
wsharkey@chooseimpact.com
bstrauch@chooseimpact.com


Here are phone numbers to do business with them:

949-265-5782
949-265-5748
949 265-5723
949-265-5738
949-265-5715
800-516-8762
800-544-8094


They appear to own probably the whole 5700 block.

Here are two fax numbers:

949-265-5782
949-265-5781

------------------------------

From: TELECOM Digest Editor <editor@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Share Day For January, 2004
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:45:00 EST


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    Microsoft Cancels Further Windows & Explorer Updates (Monty Solomon)
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:22:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Cancels Further Upgrades to Windows or Explorer


     Microsoft cancels Eolas-related software changes

SEATTLE, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp., (NASDAQ:MSFT)
reversing its plans, said on Thursday that it will not make any
changes to its Windows operating system or Internet Explorer
Web browser in response to a verdict that said some components
of those programs infringe on another company's technology.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40352011

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:36:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Warner Sues Hollywood Actor Over Pirated Movies


LOS ANGELES, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Warner Bros. film studio has sued
several people, including a Hollywood actor, who it claims made
illegal digital copies of movies and distributed them on the Internet,
court papers show.

A lawsuit filed by Time Warner Inc (NYSE:TWX) unit Warner Bros. on
Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, claims actor Carmine
Caridi received "screener" copies of films "The Last Samurai" and
"Mystic River" and gave them to Illinois electrician Russell Sprague,
who then made digital versions and placed them on the Internet.

The lawsuit also lists 10 unnamed defendants as part of the alleged
plot to distribute digital copies of the movies on the Internet.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40351270

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:12:46 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EPIC Alert 11.02


=======================================================================
                           E P I C  A l e r t
=======================================================================
Volume 11.02                                           January 29, 2004
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                            Published by the
              Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
                            Washington, D.C.

            http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.02.html

======================================================================
Table of Contents
======================================================================

[1] EPIC FOIA Docs: Northwest Gave NASA Info on Millions of Passengers
[2] Docs Show Treasury Dept. Sided with Industry on Privacy Law
[3] Bush Urges USA PATRIOT Act Renewal in State of the Union Address
[4] Report Finds "Fundamental" Flaws in Pentagon E-Voting System
[5] Bruce Schneier: "Moving Towards Universal Surveillance"
[6] News in Brief
[7] EPIC Bookstore: The Privacy Law Sourcebook 2003
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events

http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.02.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:13:40 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EFFector 17.2: Action Alert: Keep Facts Free!


EFFector        Vol. 17, No. 2        January 27, 2004     donna@eff.org

A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation        ISSN 1062-9424
In the 277th Issue of EFFector:

  * EFF Action Alert: Keep Facts Free!
  * EFF to Defend Freedom to Innovate in Grokster Appeal
  * Recording Industry Must Respect Privacy of Accused Music Sharers
  * DVD Descrambling Code Not a Trade Secret
  * Op-ed: "Betamax Was a Steppingstone: 1984 Court Ruling Launched 
    a Technological Revolution"
  * Sun Microsystems Donates Linux Servers to EFF
  * Deep Links (17): USA PATRIOT Act v. the Constitution
  * EFF Court Docket: 02.03.04 - MGM v. Grokster; 02.09.04 - OPG v. 
    Diebold
  * Staff Calendar: 01.28.04 - Jason Schultz speaks in Nashville, TN;
    01.31.04 - Wendy Seltzer speaks at Digital Independence, San
    Francisco, CA    
  * Administrivia

http://www.eff.org/effector/17/2.php

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:19:59 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: US Lawmaker Pushes FCC to Resolve Call Fee Dispute


By Jeremy Pelofsky

WASHINGTON, Jan 29 (Reuters) - U.S. House Energy and Commerce
Committee Chairman Billy Tauzin pressured communications regulators to
resolve a dispute between telephone companies AT&T Corp. (NYSE:T) and
SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) that involves hundreds of millions
of dollars.

The Louisiana Republican demanded that Federal Communications
Commission Chairman Michael Powell say by Feb. 5 whether AT&T, the
biggest U.S. long-distance service provider, had to pay access charges
to local carriers like SBC that complete calls routed partially over
the Internet.

AT&T asked the agency about 16 months ago to address the issue. SBC
Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC), the No. 2 local telephone company,
said at that time it started receiving less compensation for
connecting AT&T calls that traveled that route.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40354121

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:48:41 -0500
From: anonfwd77@withheld at writer's request>
Subject: Michigan PSC Accepting Comments on Norvergence


[*** PLEASE WITHHOLD MY EMAIL ADDRESS.  Even though it may seem like a
"throwaway" address, I still would prefer it not be used since I no
longer have the ability to change e-mail addresses at will, and I
would not care for even this "anonymous" address to start getting
spam.]

In the last few weeks there have been a few posts on Norvergence in
this forum, and while I don't wish to take sides in that debate, I
figured that some of those who do have strong positions might want to
know about this Notice of Hearing and Opportunity to Comment from the
Michigan Public Service Commission:

http://www.cis.state.mi.us/cgi-bin/mpsc/vieworder.cgi?filename=/mpsc/orders/notices/2004/u-13996.txt

Note that if you wish to comment, you must reference Case No. U-13996
and send your comments to the address at the bottom of the page.  For
further contact information, reference the Michigan Public Service
Commission web site at
http://www.mi.gov/mpsc/0,1607,7-159-16372---,00.html (that is the page
for the Communications Division).

I just figured that those who feel strongly about this company (pro or
con), and especially those who live or do business in Michigan, might
want to take this opportunity to let your opinions be known to a
regulatory agency. I have personally never done business with this
company and don't know anyone who has, so I hold no opinion one way or
the other.

------------------------------

From: Steven Angelil <s_angelil@hotmail.com>
Subject: Vonage
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:33:40 -0500


I saw your email address in a reply on Deja News about Vonage. I have
a question and was wondering if you might know the answer. I receive
calls at home via the Presodie Interactive network. Calls are not
VOIP, but through a regular pots line. Presodie is only available in
certain areas and I want to live in an area not served by them. I was
wondering if the Vonage system would get me the calls quick enough to
be able to work. 

The web site is http://www.presodieinteractive.com

Do you know how long the delay is with Vonage? I know I can live
anywhere and get a virtual number from anywhere which will trick the
Presodie system to think I am in Fort Lauderdale. Thanks for any
answer you might be able to give.


Steve Angelil
Oakland Park FL
http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2755??PS
Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What do you mean by 'delay with Vonage'?
Are you referring to echo when talking to someone and the other person's
voice 'bounces around' a little getting to you, and vice-versa?  My
suggestion would be to try it for free for a month and see how it works
in your application. And yes, you can get a Vonage number in Fort
Lauderdale or certainly somewhere that has Presodie available also. If
you want to try Vonage for a month for free, write and ask me for an
e-coupon. You get the Cisco ATA box from Vonage (although someone
wrote to me recently saying they are now using Motorola boxes for some
new customers (?) -- and you pay for the first month of service. The
e-coupon I will sent you gets you the second month (of whatever service
plan you select -- they have several) for free. Then if it does not
work in your application, just quit the service. Send me a not-for-pub
note asking for a Vonage e-coupon for a month of free service.
ptownson@telecom-digest.org

PAT]

------------------------------

From: BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: FOCAL Offers 32 Voice Channels per T1
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:10:53 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Focal Communications Corporation today announced unique enhancements
to its Integrated Voice and Data (IVAD) service. Focal's IVAD now
extends the voice capabilities of an integrated T1 beyond the
traditional 24 voice channel limit, offering up to 32 channels on a
single circuit.


http://www.focal.com/prod_serv/ivad.html

------------------------------

From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Here is the Norvergence Matrix Gear Solution
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:43:46 UTC
Organization: Anything


David Lepak <dlepak@ashleyremi.com> wrote in news:telecom23.46.10@telecom-
digest.org:

> MATRIX BOX

> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=3D330749

Not there.


|I always wanted to be someone,|   Tom Betz, Generalist    |
|but now I think I should have |   Want to send me email?  |
|been a wee bit more specific. | <http://tinyurl.com/ps2u> |

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In the above link, try stopping at the
'shop/products' level and see what you can find. PAT]

------------------------------

From: BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Here is the Norvergence Matrix Gear Solution
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:53:14 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


What! No Magic?  :-(

David Lepak <dlepak@ashleyremi.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.46.10@telecom-digest.org...

> Here it is ... see bottom for total cost:

> MATRIX BOX

http://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?Product=3Dcom.webridge.entity


http://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?product=3DADTRAN CORPORATION

> MODULES
>
> All modules:

http://www.adtran.com/static/ENTERPRISEPRODUCTS/INTEGRATEDACCESS/TOTALACCESS850MODULES/

> Echo cancellation:

http://www.adtran.com/static/ENTERPRISEPRODUCTS/INTEGRATEDACCESS/TOTALACCESS850MODULES/1203384L2.htm


> MATRIX BOX

> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=3D330749

> ADTRAN POWER ADAPTER AND CHARGER

http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/RESULTS.ASPX?key=3Dadtran+1175043L3&platform=3Dall

> TOTAL COST

> 1884.97

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, there is no magic. It would seem
that Mr. Skemer or the people to whom his patent was assigned, 
(Norvergence, perhaps?) have a relatively good thing going for them. 
The cease and demand letter the Norvergence people sent me about a
month ago included as an exhibit some details about the patent filing
done by Mr. Skemer and his patent attorney. There may be something 
amiss about the bill the people who use the equipment wind up paying by
the time it is all over however. Consider that 1884.97 above with a
reasonable markup for the seller or middleman versus what the end
user winds up paying the finance company which carries the Norvergence
paper.   

I am reminded an advertisement which has been playing on television 
several times daily for the past month: "You want a computer, but have
poor credit? *Anyone* can have a computer if they have a checking
account, a home telephone and can afford payments of 'merely' 35 dollars
per *week* for one year. You can do the math on that one, 35 x 52 is
all it will cost you. All the time the commercial is playing on the
TV, in the background we see people, mostly minorities but some white
guys as well, sitting at their new computer, happily typing away.  PAT]
  
------------------------------

From: Ken Lyle <Klyle@bscable.com>
Subject: Followup Message About Norvergence
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:34:52 -0500


Patrick,

We met with our Legal team today. They have asked me to find more info on
Norvergence, including the name of the person who was supposed to be fined
by the FCC (Salzano??), and ran a few Telecoms into the ground. I believe
that either him or his brother are in charge of the company. Would you know
his name by any chance? They want to run a check on him. Do you know what
his first name is???

Thanks,

Ken
Controller
B.S. Cable Co., Inc.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are thinking of Thomas Salzano and 
his brother Peter Salzano. They had an earlier company which I think
was called 'Least Cost Routing' ?  Salzano **was** fined some huge
amount of money by the federal government and ordered to stay out of
the telecom business for three years. But his period of (for lack of
a better term) 'federal probation' expired at the end of 2002. I got
some of this information from a message here in the Digest submitted
by Michael D. Sullivan, a Washington, DC attorney. Some have suggested
you may wish to also have your legal people do a background on Alex
Wolf, the present CEO of Norvergence. Alex Wolf should not be confused
with Alex Wulf, who has written occassionally here in the Digest. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:37:15 GMT


In article <telecom23.46.8@telecom-digest.org>, DaveC <me@privacy.net> 
wrote:

> The content of the "bounce" message is easy to generate, as you point
> out.  But how do I change the "from" address to reflect something
> other than my real address? Doesn't the mail server tag it as coming
> from me?

You should be able to put anything you want in the From field, and the
server should not touch it (so long as it's syntactically valid).
SMTP allows for people sending mail on behalf of others (e.g. a
secretary sending mail for the boss).

Furthermore, unless your SMTP server requires user authentication, it
has no way of knowing who it's really coming from.  If it does require
authentication, it might put your real address in the "Sender" field,
but it should still leave the "From" field alone.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Don't most systems have a built in
default 'user' called 'Mail Daemon' running as root who handles
the bouced mail?    PAT]

------------------------------

Subject: Re: ATI Delivers Personal Video Recording The PC For Every Budget
From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley)
Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:33:58 GMT


> Watching TV on your PC has never been more affordable thanks to new
> additions to the ALL-IN-WONDER(R) family of video graphics cards.

Funny thing: this reads exactly like the hype that led me to buy the
original Radeon All-in-Wonder card, and I'm still waiting for ATI to
come out with software that allows all the advertised features to work
correctly at the same time (or, more accurately, I gave up waiting
when I bought PowerVCR and found it functioned 1000% better than ATI's
MMC application).

>>==>> The *Best* political site <URL:http://www.vote-smart.org/> >>==+
      email: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net icbm: Delray Beach, FL      |
<URL:http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley> Free Software and Politics <<==+

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have ATI software built into my
Winbook XL2  laptop which runs Windows 98 and it seems to be horrible. 
Earlier this week, the Winbook XL2 kept insisting I had a 'web TV' 
attached to it and I wound up having to use the Winbook Restore CD to
flush all out all the drivers and start over since none of *my* camera
drivers would work in it with the ATI drivers stashed in there also.
Very messy ...   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:08:12 EST
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: David Nelson


I did some looking around and found that even the David Nelson who is
son of the late Ozzie & Harriet was stopped, but then was recognized
and allowed to proceed.  And a now-deceased University of Delaware
athletic director and former head football coach was also called David
Nelson.  As for the recent writeup involving problems for men called
David Nelson, I have seen a guess that perhaps some David Nelson was
wanted somewhere for something.

In unrelated same-name matters:

Sometime in the last two years, I vaguely recall reading that some
priest in the Boston Catholic archdiocese had to be pointed out as not
the same as a priest with the same first name/last name combination
who got caught up in the sex-abuse scandals.

In my home county, there have been two other voters called Carl Moore,
but I have never had a problem getting in to vote, although election
officials have had to pay greater attention to middle name and suffix
if any (I have the "Jr." suffix after my name).  And in 2001 before
the attacks of 9-11, I called ahead for a motel reservation (which
was to be in Iowa), and when I got there I found it had been mistakenly
made in the name of a Carlton Moore who was also from Maryland, and
I was able to have it straightened out.

------------------------------

From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, or Spam Server?
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:26:27 -0600


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I got this spam in email today. My question is, why don't police or
FBI nip this in the bud, stop it before it even gets started?


Lisa Minter
lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Possibly because the guy appears to be
in a foreign country, where USA authorities cannot touch him.  At
least it appears to me that '.ru' is some other country.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: TELECOM Digest Editor <editor@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Share Day For January, 2004
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 2:00:00 EST


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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Some *Good News* About Norvergence! (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: VOIP Over Private IP (Bob Snyder)
    RCN Adds CBS Programming in High-Definition;  Can Enjoy (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message? (Nick Landsberg)
    Strangeness with the W32.Mydoom.B@mm Virus (Darryl Smith)
    Re: Microsoft Cancels Further Upgrades to Windows or Explorer (Margolin)
    Make "FREE" Long Distance Calls with VoIP-Valet (Cousin Charles)
    No More Blank/Fake Caller ID For (Most) Telemarketers (Danny Burstein)
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    Treo 600 - Not Turning Off (Jeff)
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:21:56 EST
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Some *Good News* About Norvergence!


Lord knows we have had enough bad news about the Norvergence people here 
in recent weeks, lawsuits, complaints from people who say they were
defrauded, lured into seemingly endless deals with finance companies,
disgruntled employees, etc. 

Fifty years ago on the radio, I used to listen to Gabriel Heatter,
with his fifteen minute nightly news summary. It seems the man seldom
had anything but bum raps for all politicians, government policies,
etc. With his whining, sniveling voice he seemed to delight in making
sure you heard all the really rotten news of the day; ie. the Korean
conflict, that red-baiter, Senator Joe McCarthy (R-Wisc) and whatever
else there was to complain about. Gabriel Heatter did not miss a
beat. But on the rare occassions when there was genuine, honest, good
news in those days, Heatter would always sign on the air saying in an
earnest voice, 'there is GOOD news tonight!' Some readers have
suggested your Moderator seems to delight in making trouble for people
and companies also, Maybe so ... but in this issue of the Digest I
want to tell you about some people who really and truly think
Norvergence is a great service.

In response to my request a couple weeks ago inviting Norvergence and/
or Mssrs. Thomas and Peter Salzano or Norvergence CEO Alex Wolf to 
speak to readers and tell us the way things really are, they chose to
send me testimonials *along with telephone numbers and in many cases
email addresses* of several of their customers who are quite satisfied
with the 'Matrix Box' solution to their telecom needs.  This arrived
several days ago in my mail as a huge, thick file full of testimonials
 from CEO's and others. You are invited to verify all these for yourself. 
They also feel the majority of the negative public relations the
company has received in recent weeks was due to a disproportionatly
angry response by a discharged employee, and nothing to do with their
products and services as such. Anyway, read these excerpted testimonials,
verify them as you wish, *then* decide what you think, and where the
truth lies. After all, as the gospel of John tells us in Chapter 8 and
verse 32, if we know the truth, the truth will make us free. So here
are testimonials from a few folks who want to speak truthfully about
the Matrix solution from NorVergence. 
 
-------------

Dale Y. Morris of Access Integrated Technologies, Morristown, NJ on
866-741-2580 email  dmorris@accessitx.com is the office manager for
the company. He writes that they have been a satisfied customer of
NorVergence for two years. He says the system has been extremely 
reliable, stable and clear. He recommends Matix to anyone who needs
a good system. If you have any questions, email or call him.

-------------

Scott Frankel, President of Animatic Media, Lynbrook NY on 516-887-8820
email info@animatic.com said he gets a large amount of solicitations
 from sales people every day. Most he does not return. But the call
he received from NorVergence sounded too good to be true, but
skeptically he decided to hear them out. Mr. Frankel says he is a very
'hard sell' and many/most salesmen don't spend much time on him. He
says the savings was mostly a wash, but they did go from DSL to a full
T-l, and that they now save about $2500 per year. He has been telling
business associates about NorVergence and invites your call or email.

------------

Pat Keller, of Arena Partition, Inc. in Columbia, MD, phone 410-997-6399
has been using Matrix Solution about a year (turned on in January, 2003
when letter was written in December, 2003) and claims it is more
reliable than their electric supplier. They had only two minor outage
incidents in the year, and in both cases they were back on line in
less than two hours, and during that time, they still had their T-1
connection to the internet and they were able to make any phone calls
needed on the wireless phones included in their contract with NorVergence.
The savings have been overall about what was expected, but their main
convenience comes from consolidated wireless communication, internet
communication, internet services, and long distance calling. Although
they do not make a lot of international calls, they appreciated the 
rates charged by NorVergence when they did. You are invited to discuss
this further with Pat Keller.

------------

Bill Barney, President of Automated Print, Atlanta. GA on 404-892-1751
email automatedprint@mindspring.com noted that unlimited cell phone 
capability saves his company almost $300 per month. He says they were
able to reduce the number of telco lines coming in by 25 percent, and
the upgrade from dialup to T-1 was very welcomd by the graphics
department at the company. Call or email him for more specifics.

------------

Jeni Murphy, President of Bernie's Roofing in East Hartford, CT on the
phone number 860-528-5595 and 860-289-6557 http://welchroofing.com
wrote to say although they expected there would be downtime on their
phones and computers during the cutover, it went smoothly and quickly.
They especially appreciate being able to send a photograph of a
problem from the job site immediatly to the supervising executive
in the office for fast turn around in their roofing work. She noted
'our employees were thrilled with the cell phone set up.'  

-----------

Some additional accolades came from these people:

Steve Bock, Birds-Eye-View, Atlanta, GA 770-457-9597  
Rich Giancola, Controller, Boston ECR, Phone 800-635-0273 
Robert Greco, President, Central Auto and Transport, LLC
     195 Maxim Road, Hartford, CT - 860-246-7616
Kevin Pickett, CFO, Channel Fish Processing, Inc. Boston, MA  617-464-3366
Michael J. Starovich, President, C&M Auto Service,
     1723-A Waukegan Road, Glenview, IL  847-724-6311  service@cmauto.com
Richard Colagouri, President, Colwood Electronics, Inc.
     15 Meridian Road, Eatontown, NJ  732-544-1119
Computer and Electronic Enterprises, 5545 Chene, Detroit, MI 313-925-4100
Kirby Lunsford, Executive Pastor, Crosby Church
Steve Weiskirch, DNW Enterprises, 540 Frontage Road, Northfield, IL
     Phone: 847-784-1072   email: dnwent@hotmail.com
Joseph Sandy, VP, East Coast Resources, LLC  9304 D'Arcy Road
     Upper Marlboro, MD   301-333-8551   www.eastcoastresources.com
Garland Sparks, President, eFluidpower  EFPS, Inc.
     PO Box 45093  Houston, TX  713-973-9211
Sam Karimi, CEO  Elite Technology Group, 870 East Higgins
     Rd. Schaumburg, IL 847-995-9525   SKarimi@EliteTechnology.com 
Les Chernauskus, VP, Geosciences Testing and Research, Inc. 
     33 Middlesex Street, North Chelmsford, MA  978-951-9395
Michael Gibbons, President, Gibbons Construction, Inc. 
     1020 Lunt Avenue, Schaumburg, IL  708-893-5947
Mark E. Grace, Controller, Grace Technologies  http://gracetechnologies.com
Del Dolive, President, Great Southern Iron Works, 440 Hembree Hollow
     Roswell, GA  770-664-1213
Jim O'Connor, Grove Automotive, Phone 714-893-0777
Rick Alfaro, VP Hallmark Personnel of Florida, Inc. 3201 W. Commercial,
     Fort Lauderdale, FL  954-739-0600 ralfaro@hallmarkpersonnel.biz
Sean Kevin Roark, Harry E. Jones and Associates, Advertising Specialties
     5773 Woodway, Houston, TX  713-463-0029

---------------

and about 30 more letters were recieved in the package which arrived
here a few days ago.  Altogether, about 50-60 letters in the package
sent to me from Norvergence. 

An observation by myself:  Every single one of these letters were 
written by the companies involved above during December, 2003, very
frequently on December 9 or December 11. A few are dated later in
December. I do not know if Norvergence did all that business in 
the late fall (so to allow the customers at least a month or two to
evaluate the system and write letters) or if Norvergence specifically
solicited letters of recommendation from their customers,or if all
those customers decided to write at the same time, etc. I do know 
that when the very first negative words about Norvergence appeared 
here (or in some other newsgroup) I received *two* positive letters
sent in email on the *very same day*. Just an observation, for
whatever it is worth; maybe nothing. 

I also note that these letter writers for the most part, had been
using Norvergence for between one and three months at the time they
wrote their letters of recommendation. Perhaps one or more readers
will follow up with inquiries in a few months and see if the letter
writers remain satisfied. 

Anyway, my sincere thanks to the Salzano brothers, Alex Wulf and
(very possibly) Susan Carol for sending me this batch of testimonials
for review. I'll have them all on file here (along with the couple
dozen or so space considerations forbade me printing here) in the
event they come in useful some day.


Patrick Townson
  
------------------------------

Subject: Re: VOIP Over Private IP
From: Bob Snyder <rsnyder@toontown.erial.nj.us>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:23 -0500


nyukfah@pd.jaring.my (nyuk fah) writes:

> My current internet connection is private ip and behind a firewall.
> Thus I wonder any solution VOIP over HTTP? Which I can solve the
> private IP and firewall limitation?

No, not over HTTP, at least if you want decent quality VoIP, since
HTTP uses TCP as it's transport. TCP guarantees a complete and
in-order data stream, and does this by stopping the flow of data to an
application under it gets missing packets resent by not acknowledging
them to the sender. Thus, a couple of missing packets could easily
cause at least several seconds of no audio, even though the missing
packets may only make up a fraction of a second of loss.

VoIP usually uses UDP for the audio connection, with H.323 or SIP
controlling it. Many firewalls have provisions to be configured to
properly NAT H.323, or you could use a gatekeeper routed setup for
H.323. SIP has provisions for proxy servers and NAT inside the
protocol.

You probably want to check your firewall's documentation and see if it
supports firewalling/NAT'ing H.323.

Bob

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:56:35 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: RCN Adds CBS Programming in High-Definition; Customers Can Enjoy


Super Bowl XXXVIII in HD Format

PRINCETON, N.J., Jan. 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- RCN Corporation
(Nasdaq: RCNC) today announced that it has added CBS to its
High-Definition TV platform. With award-winning sitcoms, popular crime
dramas, and a great sports lineup including this Sunday's Super Bowl
XXXVIII, CBS adds great entertainment choices to an already potent
High-Definition lineup. The HD format will be available in RCN's
Boston, Manhattan, Queens, Philadelphia, Washington DC, San Francisco
and Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania markets.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200401291648_PRN__PHTH025

------------------------------

From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@att.net>
Subject: Re: Spoofing a "Bounced" E-Mail Error Message?
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:03:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet



[snip]

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most computers have a user account 
> known as 'Mail Daemon' (often times running with root privileges)
> which send out those notices. Set up a user called Mail Daemon to 
> get that 'from' address.  PAT]

Most of us don't have our own mail servers and have to rely on the
ISP to do the mail handling.  Thus, if everyone tried to
create an account on Earthlink or Worldnet with the name
MailerDaemon or some such, then only the first few with
creative spellings would succeed.  But I will try over the weekend
and report back on the results ::grin::

Now, if ISP's would provide the "bounce" service as part of their
package, that's something!

BTW -- preliminary investigation shows that different mail services
bounce message in different ways.  For example, worldnet says:

Error 551:  Not our customer

Yahoo does it totally differently.
Maybe the 551 error is sufficient?


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There are all kinds of variations on
'Mail Daemon'. Try it without a space in the middle, using an upper
case /M/ and /D/. Try being Mailer Daemon, again with and without a
space in the middle. Or become Mail Daemon 2 or whatever.    PAT]  

------------------------------

From: Darryl Smith <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Subject: Strangeness with the W32.Mydoom.B@mm Virus
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:07:39 +1100


Pat,

Something strange is happening with the W32.Mydoom.B@mm virus that we all
seem to get hit with right now. I have been getting some strange 'bounce'
messages -- specifically messages saying that they are from 
	Apache@uranium.radio-active.net.au

Well, This is very strange, because the only people who have ever sent email
to that address are spammers. No-one has a valid reason to send from or to
the uranium sub-domain (and I am the only one who uses it anyway). And I
*NEVER* use the apache address - it is just one of the standard alias'. 

Every week or so I get an email to that address ... well until the
last few days when I am getting at least one bounce a day saying that
the email was from that address.

There are two options here ...

	a) the writer of the Virus is sending out the virus still,
           using to and from addresses from a Spam list.

	b) A spammer has caught the virus.

Both have some interesting implications.


Darryl Smith, VK2TDS   POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International] 
www.radio-active.net.au - www.radio-active.net.au\web\tracking
 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Don't you just wish it were true: a
plague on both their houses; spammers get infected and virus writers
start getting spammed heavily. As they spend their time and
resources fighting with each other, the rest of us could go back
to regular, everyday computing for the first time since the mid-
to late 1990's. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Cancels Further Upgrades to Windows or Explorer
Organization: Looking for work
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:40:47 GMT


In article <telecom23.47.1@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

>      Microsoft cancels Eolas-related software changes

> SEATTLE, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp., (NASDAQ:MSFT)
> reversing its plans, said on Thursday that it will not make any
> changes to its Windows operating system or Internet Explorer
> Web browser in response to a verdict that said some components
> of those programs infringe on another company's technology.

I hope Monty was just having fun with his Subject line.  I don't think
MS has cancelled all Windows and IE changes, just the ones related to
this lawsuit.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA

------------------------------

From: mysuccessmentor@excite.com (CousinCharles)
Subject: Make "FREE" Long Distance Calls with VoIP-Valet
Date: 29 Jan 2004 22:01:30 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


CALL your friends, family and business contacts around the
world ... WITHOUT the worry of how much it's going to cost!

Make FREE Long Distance Calls with VoIP-Valet and enjoy the
opportunity to earn income at the same time!

HEAR the quality and clarity of VoIP-Valet!
http://www.cmp5830.calltheplanet.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I'll stick with Vonage, thank you, 
especially since they just recently (last few days) expanded into 
the 620 area code of rural southeastern Kansas. They are not yet in a
position to port my local number 620-331 over, but Winfield, Kansas
is very close. Anyone who wants an e-coupon for a free month of
Vonage service can ask me for one in not-for-pub email.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: No More Blank/Fake Caller ID For (Most) Telemarketers
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:33:42 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


Compliance on the Line: Telemarketers to Start Transmitting Caller ID
Information

Beginning January 29, 2004, telemarketers must transmit Caller ID
information in order to comply with the Federal Trade CommissionÕs
Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR). This information will help consumers
choose which sales calls they want to take.

Telemarketers are required to transmit their telephone number, and if
possible, their name, to consumersÕ Caller ID services. While it is
technologically possible to transmit callersÕ numbers nearly everywhere,
transmitting callersÕ names may not be available everywhere yet.

[ snip ]

	http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/01/callerid.htm

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Family Radio was chattering about it
all day yesterday in their newscasts. At last, the 'reject last caller'
feature of SWB Tel will be worth something.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Words and Numbers (was: T-Mobile USA Show Biggest Gains)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:25:44 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Dr. Joel M. Hoffman <joel@exc.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.45.17@telecom-digest.org:

>> Deutsche Telekom's (DE:DTEGn) T-Mobile, the sixth largest
>> U.S. wireless service, said it added 1.015 million customers

> Purely as a curiosity, why would anyone write "1.015 million" instead
> of "1,015,000" (or, even better, "just over a million customers")?

> -Joel

Those Germans just think everything has to be so precise!

------------------------------

From: jeff@customfitness.com (Jeff)
Subject: Treo 600 - Not Turning Off
Date: 30 Jan 2004 11:57:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello,

Ever since I got my Treo 600, it has not been able to turn itself off
when it is charging. Even though, I have the setting "turn off after 1
minute", it stays on all night when I have it plugged in and charging!
It will NOT turn off when it's plugged in. I don't know if some
setting transfered over from my Sony Clie when I first did a sync to
tranfer the data over from my Clie to the Treo.

Is there a way to fix this? If not will this hurt the Treo if the
screen stays on overnight when charging?


Thanks,

Jeff

------------------------------

From: jcoronat@paulbunyan.net (James)
Subject: Help With Call-Attendant System?
Date: 30 Jan 2004 12:32:13 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Can anyone help in constructing an automated telephone answering
system for me?

The idea is to allow a caller to sample one or more long books over
the phone. Each of the one or more books will be playing continuously,
and a caller will simply tap in to a particular recording at whatever
point it happens to be when the caller calls in.

It should work as follows: the caller dials our toll-free number and
connects to our system ("System" - the one you supply me). The System
should then:

1. automatically answer the call and play an outgoing message of 1-2
mins ("Hello and thank you for calling! To hear Book One, press");

2.then automatically connect to a live feed-through for 2-4 minutes
minutes (this is one of the continuously playing CD players or tape
players);

3. then automatically disconnect or fade out the live feed-through and
play a short termination message ("Thank you for listening. For
additional information write");

4. then automatically disconnect the call. 

To start the System, I'd insert my book CD or audiocassette into a CD
or tape player, set the player on "continuous play" mode, and jack it
into the live feed-through port on the machine you supply. If the
system had more than one port, I'd jack additional CD players, each
playing different books, into the other ports. Then I want to walk
away and have it service callers unattended.

To summarize: when callers dial in, they'll hear an introductory
message, then 2 to 4 minutes of the book's text at whatever point the
recording happens to be at that moment; then, a short message telling
what to do if more information is desired. At the end, the system
disconnects the caller automatically.

Does anyone know how I could assemble a system of telephone equipment
that will do this?


Sincerely,

James.

------------------------------

From: net-news02@jmatt.net (Matt Simpson)
Subject: Re: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, or Spam Server?
Date: 30 Jan 2004 09:30:37 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.47.15@telecom-digest.org>:

> I got this spam in email today. My question is, why don't police or
> FBI nip this in the bud, stop it before it even gets started?

Maybe because it's the police or FBI sending it out as a sting
operation, trying to catch people stupid enough to respond to
something that's so blatant about being illegal.

------------------------------

From: TELECOM Digest Editor <editor@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Share Day For January
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 2:00:00 EST


Instead of changing the Digest over to an advrtising supported forum,
I have always elected to keep it as a user supported forum, and for
the most part keep it spam and virus free. I am *only* able to do this
because of financial support from readers here, and if you would
rather not see these messages every month, then please pitch in and
help now and then!  Consider it sort of like public radio, which goes
on for days at a time trying to raise money ... and maybe I should
adopt the same system. Turn over the entire Digest once or twice a
year to fund raising (entire issues, etc) and stop doing it when the
budget for the year has been raised. But for now, I will stick with 
the present system of devoting a few messages at the end of each 
month to raising money for the Digest publication expenses. Out of 
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or three (only) devoted to fund raising. You know who you are; please
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Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    AT&T Wireless Offer Provides Free, Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile (Solomon)
    Ads for Gambling Sites Abound Despite Legal Crackdown on Media (Solomon)
    Comcast Takes on Broadcast TV for Local Ads (Monty Solomon)
    Hughes Cuts Jobs, Boosts DirecTV Prices (Monty Solomon)
    The Company They Kept (Monty Solomon)
    Cell Phone Explosion Burns Man's Buttocks (Monty Solomon)
    Making the Call / It's Not as if Their Lifelong Ambition (Monty Solomon)
    Re: VOIP Over Private IP (Bob Snyder)
    Vonage Router Taken Abroad? (Chas)
    Re: Some *Good News* About Norvergence! (BMN)
    Re: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, Spam? (Fritz Whittington)
    Re: Treo 600 - Not Turning Off (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    Wireless Transmission (Ijaz Ahmed)
    Optical Fiber (Ijaz Ahmed)

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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Wireless Offer Provides free, Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:54:01 -0500


BASKING RIDGE, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 30, 2004--AT&T Wireless
(NYSE:AWE) today announced an offer -- the first of its kind -- that
can give new and current customers on qualifying plans the freedom to
make unlimited domestic mobile-to-mobile calls at no charge to any of
the company's nearly 22 million customers.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40359863

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:29:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Ads for Gambling Sites Abound Despite Legal Crackdown on Media


By Kate Kaye
Contributing Writer

Who will win the coin toss or be first to challenge a referee call? 
Better yet, who will win the halftime pay-per-view Lingerie Bowl? No 
matter who is betting on what this Sunday, odds are that many Super 
Bowl-related wagers will be placed online. Prominent Web media 
outlets like MSNBC.com and Lycos could lead the way, despite a 
government crackdown on media companies that run ads for online 
gambling sites.

http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?newsID=236319

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:51:34 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Comcast Takes on Broadcast TV For Local Ads


By Michael Learmonth

NEW YORK, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Comcast Corp. (NASDAQ:CMCSA), the No. 1
U.S. cable operator, has forged alliances with cable operators around
the country in the past year to get a bigger share of the $28 billion
local advertising market from broadcasters.

The culmination of the effort, to be announced Monday, is called
"Comcast Spotlight," the company's $1 billion local advertising sales
operation, which will sell time not only on Comcast's systems but on
others in 75 markets.

The alliances will allow Comcast to sell advertising in regional
markets served by rival cable operators, a direct challenge to
broadcast TV which has enjoyed a de facto monopoly on local
advertising.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40364114

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:58:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Hughes Cuts Jobs, Boosts DirecTV Prices


By Greg Tarr

El Segundo, Calif. - Hughes Electronics said it has begun an
'organizational restructuring' effort, which has reduced certain
Hughes Corp. administrative jobs and relocated others to its DirecTV
unit.

Now under the direction of News Corp., the company said it has
'consolidated several functions that have been based at the company
into its DirecTV unit.'

As a result of the restructuring, approximately 50 positions have been
eliminated at the Hughes corporate office, while approximately 30
other posts were relocated to DirecTV. A Hughes spokesperson said the
jobs were primarily administrative support positions.

http://www.twice.com/index.asp?layout=story&doc_id=130801

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:25:48 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Company They Kept


By ROGER LOWENSTEIN

In the old days in Coudersport, a tiny Pennsylvania town at the
northern edge of Appalachia, if you had trouble with your cable
hookup, you simply called John Rigas to come over and fix it. If you
needed a loan, or a few bucks for a local charity drive, you darn sure
called him too. There didn't seem to be anyone in this town of 2,600
that Rigas wouldn't help, or didn't like, which is maybe why Rigas
seemed cut from the same cloth as his idol, the pundit Will
Rogers. Rigas's other hero was Sam Walton, and like the folksy Walton,
Rigas built his company, Adelphia Communications, from scratch into a
giant corporation.

This sort of story has become so familiar in recent years that you
almost don't have to add the kicker. Yes, it all came tumbling down.
Yes, Rigas's company failed, and Rigas himself, along with two of his
sons, is sitting in the dock, accused of the worst case of looting of
any C.E.O. of the Enron era.

The difference is that unlike other supposed villains, Rigas, a
79-year-old son of Greek immigrants, was a genuine business hero, a
pioneer in cable television. Many of the current corporate miscreants
-- think Dennis Kozlowski of Tyco -- appear to be calculating and
utterly unrepentant. Rigas, who has spent much of the past two years
in a state of shock, is nothing if not likable. And when he goes on
trial this month in Manhattan's federal courthouse, the jurors will
confront the improbable: a central figure in a white-collar scandal
who is as ordinary as they are.

The mystery of how Rigas, a frail, white-haired man who seemingly had
neither the motive nor the disposition to commit a fraud, came so
undone, has riveted his hometown. Some say the answer lies with his
sons, who directed the company's frantic growth in the late 90's;
others cite the family's habit of blurring private interests and
public ones, which was pretty easy to do in a remote company town like
Coudersport. Mystery or not, Rigas's fall says a lot about America's
wave of business scandals. The explanation put forth by people from
Alan Greenspan on down is that executives got greedy (as if that were
something new), but Rigas, who never sold a share of his company's
stock, and didn't get stock options either, doesn't quite fit the
mold. So what else was it? However badly the Rigases behaved, they
were helped along the way by lenders and investment bankers, auditors,
lawyers, analysts -- just about anyone whose job it should have been
to protect the public. And this is what truly distinguishes the latter
stages of the last bull market: not that a handful of executives got
greedy but that the safeguards supposedly built into our financial
culture stopped functioning.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/01/magazine/01RIGAS.html

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:34:43 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cell Phone Explosion Burns Man's Buttocks


KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- A Malaysian man was shaken and scalded 
Tuesday after his mobile phone exploded beside him while he was 
sleeping, the national news agency reported.

Mohamed Radzuan Yasin said he was recharging his cell phone and placed
it on his bed near him before he took a nap. Three hours later, he was
jarred awake by what he described as a small explosion.


http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2004/01/27/cell_phone_explosion_burns_mans_buttocks/

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:26:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Making the Call 


It's not as if their lifelong ambition is to irritate us at dinnertime

By Wells Tower
Sunday, January 25, 2004; Page W12
Washington Post Magazine

Sometimes when Darren Dooley's team of telemarketers is not selling as
much as it might be, a quick word of encouragement will get the crew
back on track. Other times, the situation requires what Dooley, who is
the night and weekend manager at RDI Marketing in Cincinnati, calls
"lighting a fire under their [butts]."

It is late morning on a Sunday, and Dooley has just ordered 15
employees to lay down their headsets and report to the training room.
They regard him nervously. They can hear the tinder beginning to
crackle.

"All right, listen up," Dooley says. "Everyone in this room has one
thing in common, and one thing only. You're all sitting in there
collecting a paycheck and you all have zero sales."

The under-performers, mostly high school and college students, have
spent the morning trying to persuade people all across America to sign
up for new Gold MasterCards. They nibble their lips, fiddle with their
cuticles. They look guilty and bored.

"I know it's Sunday, but that's no excuse," he says. "I don't care
what the situation is. If you call somebody and he's already pissed
off, then try to make him happy. There's other people in there who've
got four and five sales. They're being assumptive. They're being
enthusiastic. If you're not getting sales, it's because you're in
there talking and . . . not giving a hundred percent."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36801-2004Jan21.html

------------------------------

Subject: Re: VOIP Over Private IP
From: Bob Snyder <rsnyder@toontown.erial.nj.us>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:23 -0500


nyukfah@pd.jaring.my (nyuk fah) writes:

> My current internet connection is private ip and behind a firewall.
> Thus I wonder any solution VOIP over HTTP? Which I can solve the
> private IP and firewall limitation?

No, not over HTTP, at least if you want decent quality VoIP, since
HTTP uses TCP as it's transport. TCP guarantees a complete and
in-order data stream, and does this by stopping the flow of data to an
application under it gets missing packets resent by not acknowledging
them to the sender. Thus, a couple of missing packets could easily
cause at least several seconds of no audio, even though the missing
packets may only make up a fraction of a second of loss.

VoIP usually uses UDP for the audio connection, with H.323 or SIP
controlling it. Many firewalls have provisions to be configured to
properly NAT H.323, or you could use a gatekeeper routed setup for
H.323. SIP has provisions for proxy servers and NAT inside the
protocol.

You probably want to check your firewall's documentation and see if it
supports firewalling/NAT'ing H.323.


Bob

------------------------------

From: xarush@omelas.com (Chas)
Subject: Vonage Router Taken Abroad?
Date: 30 Jan 2004 16:59:07 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I have a Vonage phone and I am really satisfied with the service.

I wonder if anyone has any experience taking the router to different
countries.

I was thinking of sending one to my friend Gustavo in South America.
He has a high speed internet connection. Any thoughts? Any Experience?

Thanks.


Chas

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Vonage works anywhere there is high-
speed internet. Gustavo will have to have a USA phone number, however.
Maybe when you get it for him, have Vonage set it up with a number in
the same community yourself, so that your calls to him will always
be free even if you use some other hardwired phone (in your town) to
call him other than your Vonage line. His calls to you or anywhere
else will always be 'free' of course. You are *certain* he has high
speed broadband service? Some times people in other countries refer
to 'high speed' when they actually mean 56-K dialup. I will help you
pay for setting him up: write and ask for an e-coupon for one month
of free service. You get the box and pay for the first month's
service, then apply the e-coupon I will send on request for the *second*
month's service. Actually, you use the link in the e-coupon to open
his account in order to get the one month free.   Write to me not-for
pub and ask for a Vonage account.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Some *Good News* About Norvergence!
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:35:01 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Well that's just great, but what happens when you factor in the cost
of the matrix box + interest over five years? I would think that would
chip away at my real potential saving considerably. On average I can
save a client 30% off their telecom expenses without signing any long
term contracts or requiring any capex. That's just simple optimization.

Also, what happens next time a better deal comes around? The client is
stuck! If you consider that next opportunity could save them 20% or
more then the NorVergence solution again becomes uncompetitive. It's
not like you can go to Norvergence and renegotiate your rates now is
it? Moreover the more clients they get the more minutes they buy, the
better the deal for NorVergence, but do they pass on the saving to
their clients? Regardless of what happens in the telecom sector you
are stuck paying X $ until the end of the lease. By the way, then
what? What happens at the end of the lease? Is there an equipment
buyout? Will Norvergence try and re-sign you for another 60 months?
 -- yikes! -->

If I save $$ in my first two years with them but is costs me $$$ over the
next 3 years plus I end up paying $10000 for a $2000 channel bank, I am
sorry but their deal just plain sucks. What is truly unfortunate is that
these people got sucked in and they have no clue. And I can assure you that
I am not a disgruntled ex employee of NorVergence.

If any of you manage a telecom dept or a clients, just do quarterly
reviews on your service or better yet hire a consultant to do it for
you. Keep yourself optimized and on track with the latest products and
services. If NorVergence offered 12 month terms, I might be compelled
to review their offering. Things change too quickly to be locking
yourself or a client into a 60 month term. It's just irresponsible. (IMHO)


Brett
(flame suit, ON!)

TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> wrote in message
news:telecom23.48.1@telecom-digest.org:

> Lord knows we have had enough bad news about the Norvergence people here
> in recent weeks, lawsuits, complaints from people who say they were
> defrauded, lured into seemingly endless deals with finance companies,
> disgruntled employees, etc.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And it is that finance company with no
outs allowed which is the hard pill to swallow, isn't it? So much of
what Norvergence says is purely an applications problem, Maybe it will
work out well for some customers, or maybe not others. Now if Norvergence
offered an 'early buy out' option, where the customer and the company
both made some compromises, that would work better for a lot of guys.
The VP of Telecom (or whatever his/her title is) gets pissed, comes
into work and says 'get that junk out of here'. So Norvergence and the
telecom manager make an arrangement fair to both and Norvergence aids
in an orderly transition to the system the Telecom people want. That
would be a little easier to deal with. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Fritz Whittington <f.whittington@att.net>
Subject: Re: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, or Spam Server?
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 02:08:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


On or about 2004-01-30 11:30, Matt Simpson whipped out a trusty #2 
pencil and scribbled:

> Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.47.15@telecom-digest.org>:

>> I got this spam in email today. My question is, why don't police or
>> FBI nip this in the bud, stop it before it even gets started?

> Maybe because it's the police or FBI sending it out as a sting
> operation, trying to catch people stupid enough to respond to
> something that's so blatant about being illegal.

Could be.  I don't read much Russian, but I think this may be a "joe
job".  The site seems to be pretty legitimate, at first glance.  The
odd thing is, the spam email seems to originate from somewhere in
China.  Not to mention that I really can't see a Russian company
co-operating with the FBI ...


Fritz Whittington
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:36:35 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: Treo 600 - Not Turning Off


Jeff wrote:

> Ever since I got my Treo 600, it has not been able to turn itself off
> when it is charging. Even though, I have the setting "turn off after 1
> minute", it stays on all night when I have it plugged in and charging!

Perhaps the Treo is using its microprocessor to monitor the charging 
process.  I know the HP100LX and 200LX work like this; even pressing the 
Power button won't turn them off when they're plugged in with battery 
charging enabled.


> ... will this hurt the Treo if the screen stays on overnight when
> charging?

Probably not.  The backlight probably has a lifespan, so if it's on all 
the time that could cause problems.  But the LCD doesn't care.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: Ijaz Ahmed <ijaz18@hotmail.com>
Subject: Wireless Transmission
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:10:32 +0500


Hi!

I am Ijaz Ahmed from Pakistan .

Here are my research articles about Wireless Transmission
Please post them in the Digest For the benefit Of Telecomm readers.

Thanks!

Ijaz

                  WIRELESS TRANSMISSION


For unguided media, transmission and reception are achieved by means
of an antenna. For transmission, the antenna radiates electromagnetic
energy into the medium (usually air), and for reception, the antenna
picks up electromagnetic waves from the surrounding medium. There are
basically two types of configurations for wireless transmission:
directional and omnidirectional. For the directional configuration,
the transmitting antenna puts out a focused electromagnetic beam; the
transmitting and receiving antennas must therefore be carefully
aligned.  In the omnidirectional case, the transmitted signal spreads
out in all directions and can be received by many antennas. In
general, the higher the frequency of a signal, the more it is possible
to focus it into a directional beam.

Three general ranges of frequencies are of interest in our discussion
of wireless transmission. Frequencies in the range of about 2 GHz
(gigahertz = 109 Hz) to 40 GHz are referred to as microwave
frequencies. At these frequencies, highly directional beams are
possible, and microwave is quite suitable for point-to-point
transmission. Microwave is also used for satellite communications.
Frequencies in the range 30 MHz to 1 GHz are suitable for
omnidirectional applications. We refer to this range as the broadcast
radio range.

Another important frequency range, for local applications, is the
infrared portion of the spectrum. This covers, roughly, from 3 X 10 n
to 2 X 10M Hz. Infrared is useful to local point-to-point and
multipoint applications within confined areas such as a single room.


Terrestrial Microwave
Physical Description

The most common type of microwave antenna is the parabolic dish. The
antenna is fixed rigidly and focuses a narrow beam to achieve line
of-sight transmission to the receiving antenna. Microwave antennas are
usually located at substantial heights above ground level in order to
extend the range between antennas and to be able to transmit over
intervening obstacles. To achieve long-distance transmission, a series
of microwave relay towers is used, and point-to-point microwave links
are strung together over the desired distance.


Applications

The primary use for terrestrial microwave systems is in long-haul
telecommunications service, as an alternative to coaxial cable or
optical fiber. The microwave facility requires far fewer amplifiers or
repeaters than coaxial cable requires over the same distance, but
necessitates line-of-sight transmission. Microwave is commonly used
for both voice and television transmission.

Another increasingly common use of microwave is for short point-to-
point links between buildings. This can be used for closed-circuit TV
or as a data link between local-area networks. Short-haul microwave
can also be used for "bypass"applications. A business can establish a
microwave link to a long-distance telecommunications facility in the
same city, bypassing the local telephone company.

Transmission Characteristics

Microwave transmission covers a substantial portion of the electro-
magnetic spectrum. Common frequencies used for transmission are in the
range 2 to 40 GHz. The higher the frequency used, the higher the
potential bandwidth and therefore the higher the potential data rate.

As with any transmission system, a main source of loss is attenuation.
This loss is proportionally less than with twisted pair or coaxial
cable, allowing repeaters or amplifiers to be placed farther apart for
microwave systems-10 to 100 km is typical. Attenuation is increased
with rainfall. The effects of rainfall become especially noticeable
above 10 GHz. Another source of impairment is interference. With the
growing popularity of microwave, transmission areas overlap and
interference is always a danger. Thus, the assignment of frequency
bands is strictly regulated.


Satellite Microwave
Physical Description

A communication satellite is, in effect, a microwave relay station. It
is used to link two or more ground-based microwave
transmitter/receivers, known as earth stations or ground stations. The
satellite receives transmissions on one frequency band (uplink),
amplifies or repeats the signal, and transmits it on another frequency
(downlink). A single orbiting satellite will operate on a number of
frequency bands, called transponder channels or simply transponders.

Two common configurations for satellite communication are generally
used In the first, the satellite is used to provide a point-to-point
link between two distant ground-based antennas. In the second, the
satellite provides communications between one ground-based transmitter
and a number of ground-based receivers.

For a communication satellite to function effectively, it is generally
required that it remain stationary with respect to its position over
the earth. Otherwise, it would not be within the line of sight of its
earth stations at all times.

Applications

The communication satellite is a technological revolution as important
as fiber optics. Among the most important applications for satellites:

  1. Television distribution

  2. Long-distance telephone transmission

  3. Private business networks

Because of their broadcast nature, satellites are well suited to
television distribution and are being used extensively for this
purpose throughout the world. In its traditional use, a network
provides programming from a central location. Programs are transmitted
to the satellite and then broadcast down to a number of stations,
which then distribute the programs to individual viewers. A more
recent application of satellite technology to television distribution
is direct broadcast satellite (DBS), in which satellite video signals
are transmitted directly to the home user.

Satellite transmission is also used for point-to-point trunks between
telephone exchange offices in public telephone networks. It is the
useful medium forhigh-usage international trunks and is competitive
with terrestrial systems for many long-distance intranational links,
particularly in remote and undeveloped areas.

Finally, there are a number of business data applications for
satellite.  The satellite provider can divide the total capacity into
a number of channels and lease these channels to individual business
users. A user equipped with the antennas at a number of sites can use
a satellite channel for a private network. Traditionally, such
applications have been quite expensive and limited to larger
organizations with high-volume requirements. Today, the very small
aperture terminal (VSAT) system, which provides a low-cost alternative
is also in use . A number of subscriber stations are equipped with
low-cost VSAT antennas. Using some discipline, these stations share a
satellite transmission capacity for transmission to a hub station. The
hub station can exchange messages with each of the subscribers and can
relay messages between subscribers.


Transmission Characteristics

The optimum frequency range for satellite transmission is in the range 1
to 10 GHz. Below 1 GHz, there is significant noise from natural sources,
including galactic, solar, and atmospheric noise, and human made
interference from various electronic devices. Above 10 GHz, the signal
is severely attenuated by atmospheric absorption and precipitation.


Most satellites providing point-to-point service today use a frequency
band width in the range 5.925 to 6.425 GHz for transmission from earth
to satellite (uplink) and a bandwidth in the range 4.7 to 4.2 GHz for
transmission from satellite to earth (downlink). This combination is
referred to as the 4/6-GHz band, or C band. Note that the uplink and
downlink frequencies differ. For continuous operation without
interference, a satellite cannot transmit and receive on the same
frequency. Thus, signals received from a ground station on one
frequency must be transmitted back on another.

Several properties of satellite communication should be noted. First,
because of the long distances involved, there is a propagation delay
of about 0.25 sec from transmission from one earth station to
reception by another earth station. This delay is noticeable in
ordinary telephone conversations. It also introduces problems in the
areas of error control and flow control . Second, satellite microwave
is inherently a broadcast facility. Many stations can transmit to the
satellite, and a transmission from a satellite can be received by many
stations.

------------------------------

From: Ijaz Ahmed <ijaz18@hotmail.com>
Subject: Optical Fiber
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:13:51 +0500



OPTICAL FIBER
Physical Description

An optical fiber is a thin, flexible medium capable of conducting an
optical ray. Various glasses and plastics can be used to make optical
fibers. The lowest losses have been obtained using fibers of ultrapure
fused silica. Ultrapure fiber is difficult to manufacture; higher-loss
multi component glass fibers are more economical and still provide
good performance. Plastic fiber is even less costly and can be used
for short-haul links, for which moderately high losses are acceptable.

An optical fiber has a cylindrical shape and consists of three
concentric sections . The two innermost are two types of glass with
different indexes of refraction. The center one is called the core,
and the next layer the cladding. These two sections of glass are
covered by a protective and light absorbing jacket. Optical fibers are
grouped together into optical cables.


Applications

One of the most significant technological breakthroughs in data
transmission has been the development of practical fiber optic
communications systems. Optical fiber already enjoys considerable use
in long-distance telecommunications, and its use in military
applications is growing. The continuing improvements in performance
and decline in prices, together with the inherent advantages of
optical fiber, have made it increasingly attractive for local-area
networking. The following characteristics distinguish optical fiber
from twisted pair or coaxial cable:

Greater capacity. The potential bandwidth, and hence data rate, of
optical fiber is immense; data rates of 2 Gbps over tens of kilometers
have been demonstrated. Compare this to the practical maximum of
hundreds of Mbps over about 1 km for coaxial cable and just a few Mbps
over 1 km or up to 100 Mbps over a few tens of meters for twisted
pair.

Smaller size and lighter weight. Optical fibers are considerably
thinner than coaxial cable or bundled twisted-pair cable-at least an
order of magnitude thinner for comparable information transmission
capacity. For cramped conduits in buildings and underground along
public rights of-way, the advantage of small size is considerable. The
corresponding reduction in weight reduces structural support
requirements.

Lower attenuation. Attenuation is significantly lower for optical
fiber than for coaxial cable or twisted pair and is constant over a
wide range of frequencies.

Electromagnetic isolation. Optical fiber systems are not affected by
external electromagnetic fields. Thus, the system is not vulnerable to
interference, impulse noise, or crosstalk. By the same token, fibers
do not radiate energy, causing little interference with other equip-
ment and providing a high degree of security from eavesdropping. In
addition, fiber is inherently difficult to tap.

Greater repeater spacing. Fewer repeaters means lower cost and fewer
sources of error. From this point of view the performance of optical
fiber systems has been steadily improving.

Five basic categories of application have become important for optical
fiber:


  1. Long-haul trunks

  2. Metropolitan trunks

  3. Rural exchange trunks

  4. Subscriber loops

  5. Local-area networks

Long-haul fiber transmission is becoming increasingly common in the
telephone network. Long-haul routes average about 900 miles in length
and offer high capacity (typically, 20,000 to 60,000 voice
channels). These systems compete economically with microwave and have
so under priced coaxial cable in many developed countries that coaxial
cable is rapidly being phased out of the telephone network in such
countries.

Metropolitan trunking circuits have an average length of 7.8 miles and
may have as many as 100,000 voice channels in a trunk group. Most
facilities are installed in underground conduits and are repeaterless,
joining telephone exchanges in a metropolitan or city area. Included
in this category are routes that link long-haul microwave facilities
that terminate at a city perimeter to the main telephone exchange
building downtown.

Rural exchange trunks have circuit lengths ranging from 25 to 100
miles and link towns and villages. In the network , they often connect
the exchanges of different telephone companies. Most of these systems
have fewer than 5000 voice channels. The technology used in these
applications competes with microwave facilities.

Subscriber loop circuits are fibers that run directly from the central
exchange to a subscriber. These facilities are beginning to displace
twisted pair and coaxial cable links as the telephone networks evolve
into full-service networks capable of handling not only voice and data
but also image and video. The initial penetration of optical fiber in
this application is for the business subscriber, but fiber
transmission into the home will soon begin to appear.

A final important application of optical fiber is for local-area
networks.  Recently, standards have been developed and products
introduced for optical fiber networks that have a total capacity of
100 Mbps and can support hundreds or even thousands of stations in a
large office building or a complex of buildings. The advantages of
optical fiber over twisted pair and coaxial cable become more
compelling as the demand for all types of information (voice, data,
image, video) increases.

TRANSMISSION CHARACTERISTICS

Optical fiber systems operate in the range of about 1014 to 1015 Hz;
this covers portions of the infrared and visible spectrums. The
principle of optical fiber transmission is as follows.

Light from a source enters the cylindrical glass or plastic core. Rays
at shallow angles are reflected and propagated along the fiber; other
rays are absorbed by the surrounding material. This form of
propagation is called multimode, referring to the variety of angles
that will reflect. When the fiber core radius is reduced, fewer angles
will reflect. By reducing the radius of the core to the order of a
wavelength, only a single angle or mode can pass: the axial ray. This
single-mode propagation provides superior performance, for the
following reason. With multimode transmission, multiple propagation
paths exist, each with a different path length and hence time to
traverse the fiber.  This causes signal elements to spread out in
time, which limits the rate at which data can be accurately
received. Because there is a single transmission path with single-mode
transmission, such distortion cannot occur. Finally, by varying the
index of refraction of the core, a third type of transmission, known
as multimode graded index, is possible. This type is intermediate
between the other two in characteristics. The variable refraction has
the effect of focusing the rays more efficiently than ordinary
multimode, also known as multimode step index.

Two different types of light source are used in fiber optic systems:
the light emitting diode (LED) and the injection laser diode
(ILD). Both are semiconductor devices that emit a beam of light when a
voltage is applied. The LED is less costly, operates over a greater
temperature range, and has a longer operational life. The ILD, which
operates on the laser principle, is more efficient and can sustain
greater data rates.

There is a relationship among the wavelength employed, the type of
transmission, and the achievable data rate. Both single mode and
multimode can support several different wavelengths of light and can
employ laser or LED light source. In optical fiber, light propagates
best in three distinct wavelength "windows," centered on 850, 1300,
and 1550 nanometers (nm). These are all in the infrared portion of the
frequency spectrum, below the visible-light portion, which is 400 to
700 nm. The loss is lower at higher wavelengths, allowing greater data
rates over longer distances . Most local applications today use 850-nm
LED light sources. Although this combination is relatively
inexpensive, it is generally limited to data rates under 100 Mbps and
distances of a few kilometers. To achieve higher data rates and longer
distances, a 1300-nm LED or laser source is needed. The highest data
rates and longest distances require 1500-nm laser sources.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My thanks to Ijaz Ahmed for sharing his
writing on radio waves and fiber optics with us. Those of you in our
readership who are familiar with these topics may want to critique
the papers presented above and possibly begin a discussion with Ijaz
on any errors, etc.   PAT]

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    AT&T Wireless Offer Provides Free, Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile (Solomon)
    Ads for Gambling Sites Abound Despite Legal Crackdown on Media (Solomon)
    Comcast Takes on Broadcast TV for Local Ads (Monty Solomon)
    Hughes Cuts Jobs, Boosts DirecTV Prices (Monty Solomon)
    The Company They Kept (Monty Solomon)
    Cell Phone Explosion Burns Man's Buttocks (Monty Solomon)
    Making the Call / It's Not as if Their Lifelong Ambition (Monty Solomon)
    Re: VOIP Over Private IP (Bob Snyder)
    Vonage Router Taken Abroad? (Chas)
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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Wireless Offer Provides free, Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:54:01 -0500


BASKING RIDGE, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 30, 2004--AT&T Wireless
(NYSE:AWE) today announced an offer -- the first of its kind -- that
can give new and current customers on qualifying plans the freedom to
make unlimited domestic mobile-to-mobile calls at no charge to any of
the company's nearly 22 million customers.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40359863

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:29:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Ads for Gambling Sites Abound Despite Legal Crackdown on Media


By Kate Kaye
Contributing Writer

Who will win the coin toss or be first to challenge a referee call? 
Better yet, who will win the halftime pay-per-view Lingerie Bowl? No 
matter who is betting on what this Sunday, odds are that many Super 
Bowl-related wagers will be placed online. Prominent Web media 
outlets like MSNBC.com and Lycos could lead the way, despite a 
government crackdown on media companies that run ads for online 
gambling sites.

http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?newsID=236319

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:51:34 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Comcast Takes on Broadcast TV For Local Ads


By Michael Learmonth

NEW YORK, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Comcast Corp. (NASDAQ:CMCSA), the No. 1
U.S. cable operator, has forged alliances with cable operators around
the country in the past year to get a bigger share of the $28 billion
local advertising market from broadcasters.

The culmination of the effort, to be announced Monday, is called
"Comcast Spotlight," the company's $1 billion local advertising sales
operation, which will sell time not only on Comcast's systems but on
others in 75 markets.

The alliances will allow Comcast to sell advertising in regional
markets served by rival cable operators, a direct challenge to
broadcast TV which has enjoyed a de facto monopoly on local
advertising.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40364114

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:58:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Hughes Cuts Jobs, Boosts DirecTV Prices


By Greg Tarr

El Segundo, Calif. - Hughes Electronics said it has begun an
'organizational restructuring' effort, which has reduced certain
Hughes Corp. administrative jobs and relocated others to its DirecTV
unit.

Now under the direction of News Corp., the company said it has
'consolidated several functions that have been based at the company
into its DirecTV unit.'

As a result of the restructuring, approximately 50 positions have been
eliminated at the Hughes corporate office, while approximately 30
other posts were relocated to DirecTV. A Hughes spokesperson said the
jobs were primarily administrative support positions.

http://www.twice.com/index.asp?layout=story&doc_id=130801

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:25:48 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Company They Kept


By ROGER LOWENSTEIN

In the old days in Coudersport, a tiny Pennsylvania town at the
northern edge of Appalachia, if you had trouble with your cable
hookup, you simply called John Rigas to come over and fix it. If you
needed a loan, or a few bucks for a local charity drive, you darn sure
called him too. There didn't seem to be anyone in this town of 2,600
that Rigas wouldn't help, or didn't like, which is maybe why Rigas
seemed cut from the same cloth as his idol, the pundit Will
Rogers. Rigas's other hero was Sam Walton, and like the folksy Walton,
Rigas built his company, Adelphia Communications, from scratch into a
giant corporation.

This sort of story has become so familiar in recent years that you
almost don't have to add the kicker. Yes, it all came tumbling down.
Yes, Rigas's company failed, and Rigas himself, along with two of his
sons, is sitting in the dock, accused of the worst case of looting of
any C.E.O. of the Enron era.

The difference is that unlike other supposed villains, Rigas, a
79-year-old son of Greek immigrants, was a genuine business hero, a
pioneer in cable television. Many of the current corporate miscreants
-- think Dennis Kozlowski of Tyco -- appear to be calculating and
utterly unrepentant. Rigas, who has spent much of the past two years
in a state of shock, is nothing if not likable. And when he goes on
trial this month in Manhattan's federal courthouse, the jurors will
confront the improbable: a central figure in a white-collar scandal
who is as ordinary as they are.

The mystery of how Rigas, a frail, white-haired man who seemingly had
neither the motive nor the disposition to commit a fraud, came so
undone, has riveted his hometown. Some say the answer lies with his
sons, who directed the company's frantic growth in the late 90's;
others cite the family's habit of blurring private interests and
public ones, which was pretty easy to do in a remote company town like
Coudersport. Mystery or not, Rigas's fall says a lot about America's
wave of business scandals. The explanation put forth by people from
Alan Greenspan on down is that executives got greedy (as if that were
something new), but Rigas, who never sold a share of his company's
stock, and didn't get stock options either, doesn't quite fit the
mold. So what else was it? However badly the Rigases behaved, they
were helped along the way by lenders and investment bankers, auditors,
lawyers, analysts -- just about anyone whose job it should have been
to protect the public. And this is what truly distinguishes the latter
stages of the last bull market: not that a handful of executives got
greedy but that the safeguards supposedly built into our financial
culture stopped functioning.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/01/magazine/01RIGAS.html

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:34:43 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Cell Phone Explosion Burns Man's Buttocks


KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- A Malaysian man was shaken and scalded 
Tuesday after his mobile phone exploded beside him while he was 
sleeping, the national news agency reported.

Mohamed Radzuan Yasin said he was recharging his cell phone and placed
it on his bed near him before he took a nap. Three hours later, he was
jarred awake by what he described as a small explosion.


http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2004/01/27/cell_phone_explosion_burns_mans_buttocks/

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:26:16 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Making the Call 


It's not as if their lifelong ambition is to irritate us at dinnertime

By Wells Tower
Sunday, January 25, 2004; Page W12
Washington Post Magazine

Sometimes when Darren Dooley's team of telemarketers is not selling as
much as it might be, a quick word of encouragement will get the crew
back on track. Other times, the situation requires what Dooley, who is
the night and weekend manager at RDI Marketing in Cincinnati, calls
"lighting a fire under their [butts]."

It is late morning on a Sunday, and Dooley has just ordered 15
employees to lay down their headsets and report to the training room.
They regard him nervously. They can hear the tinder beginning to
crackle.

"All right, listen up," Dooley says. "Everyone in this room has one
thing in common, and one thing only. You're all sitting in there
collecting a paycheck and you all have zero sales."

The under-performers, mostly high school and college students, have
spent the morning trying to persuade people all across America to sign
up for new Gold MasterCards. They nibble their lips, fiddle with their
cuticles. They look guilty and bored.

"I know it's Sunday, but that's no excuse," he says. "I don't care
what the situation is. If you call somebody and he's already pissed
off, then try to make him happy. There's other people in there who've
got four and five sales. They're being assumptive. They're being
enthusiastic. If you're not getting sales, it's because you're in
there talking and . . . not giving a hundred percent."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36801-2004Jan21.html

------------------------------

Subject: Re: VOIP Over Private IP
From: Bob Snyder <rsnyder@toontown.erial.nj.us>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:23 -0500


nyukfah@pd.jaring.my (nyuk fah) writes:

> My current internet connection is private ip and behind a firewall.
> Thus I wonder any solution VOIP over HTTP? Which I can solve the
> private IP and firewall limitation?

No, not over HTTP, at least if you want decent quality VoIP, since
HTTP uses TCP as it's transport. TCP guarantees a complete and
in-order data stream, and does this by stopping the flow of data to an
application under it gets missing packets resent by not acknowledging
them to the sender. Thus, a couple of missing packets could easily
cause at least several seconds of no audio, even though the missing
packets may only make up a fraction of a second of loss.

VoIP usually uses UDP for the audio connection, with H.323 or SIP
controlling it. Many firewalls have provisions to be configured to
properly NAT H.323, or you could use a gatekeeper routed setup for
H.323. SIP has provisions for proxy servers and NAT inside the
protocol.

You probably want to check your firewall's documentation and see if it
supports firewalling/NAT'ing H.323.


Bob

------------------------------

From: xarush@omelas.com (Chas)
Subject: Vonage Router Taken Abroad?
Date: 30 Jan 2004 16:59:07 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I have a Vonage phone and I am really satisfied with the service.

I wonder if anyone has any experience taking the router to different
countries.

I was thinking of sending one to my friend Gustavo in South America.
He has a high speed internet connection. Any thoughts? Any Experience?

Thanks.


Chas

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Vonage works anywhere there is high-
speed internet. Gustavo will have to have a USA phone number, however.
Maybe when you get it for him, have Vonage set it up with a number in
the same community yourself, so that your calls to him will always
be free even if you use some other hardwired phone (in your town) to
call him other than your Vonage line. His calls to you or anywhere
else will always be 'free' of course. You are *certain* he has high
speed broadband service? Some times people in other countries refer
to 'high speed' when they actually mean 56-K dialup. I will help you
pay for setting him up: write and ask for an e-coupon for one month
of free service. You get the box and pay for the first month's
service, then apply the e-coupon I will send on request for the *second*
month's service. Actually, you use the link in the e-coupon to open
his account in order to get the one month free.   Write to me not-for
pub and ask for a Vonage account.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: BMN <telecommunication@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Some *Good News* About Norvergence!
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:35:01 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico


Well that's just great, but what happens when you factor in the cost
of the matrix box + interest over five years? I would think that would
chip away at my real potential saving considerably. On average I can
save a client 30% off their telecom expenses without signing any long
term contracts or requiring any capex. That's just simple optimization.

Also, what happens next time a better deal comes around? The client is
stuck! If you consider that next opportunity could save them 20% or
more then the NorVergence solution again becomes uncompetitive. It's
not like you can go to Norvergence and renegotiate your rates now is
it? Moreover the more clients they get the more minutes they buy, the
better the deal for NorVergence, but do they pass on the saving to
their clients? Regardless of what happens in the telecom sector you
are stuck paying X $ until the end of the lease. By the way, then
what? What happens at the end of the lease? Is there an equipment
buyout? Will Norvergence try and re-sign you for another 60 months?
 -- yikes! -->

If I save $$ in my first two years with them but is costs me $$$ over the
next 3 years plus I end up paying $10000 for a $2000 channel bank, I am
sorry but their deal just plain sucks. What is truly unfortunate is that
these people got sucked in and they have no clue. And I can assure you that
I am not a disgruntled ex employee of NorVergence.

If any of you manage a telecom dept or a clients, just do quarterly
reviews on your service or better yet hire a consultant to do it for
you. Keep yourself optimized and on track with the latest products and
services. If NorVergence offered 12 month terms, I might be compelled
to review their offering. Things change too quickly to be locking
yourself or a client into a 60 month term. It's just irresponsible. (IMHO)


Brett
(flame suit, ON!)

TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> wrote in message
news:telecom23.48.1@telecom-digest.org:

> Lord knows we have had enough bad news about the Norvergence people here
> in recent weeks, lawsuits, complaints from people who say they were
> defrauded, lured into seemingly endless deals with finance companies,
> disgruntled employees, etc.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And it is that finance company with no
outs allowed which is the hard pill to swallow, isn't it? So much of
what Norvergence says is purely an applications problem, Maybe it will
work out well for some customers, or maybe not others. Now if Norvergence
offered an 'early buy out' option, where the customer and the company
both made some compromises, that would work better for a lot of guys.
The VP of Telecom (or whatever his/her title is) gets pissed, comes
into work and says 'get that junk out of here'. So Norvergence and the
telecom manager make an arrangement fair to both and Norvergence aids
in an orderly transition to the system the Telecom people want. That
would be a little easier to deal with. PAT]

------------------------------

From: Fritz Whittington <f.whittington@att.net>
Subject: Re: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, or Spam Server?
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 02:08:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


On or about 2004-01-30 11:30, Matt Simpson whipped out a trusty #2 
pencil and scribbled:

> Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.47.15@telecom-digest.org>:

>> I got this spam in email today. My question is, why don't police or
>> FBI nip this in the bud, stop it before it even gets started?

> Maybe because it's the police or FBI sending it out as a sting
> operation, trying to catch people stupid enough to respond to
> something that's so blatant about being illegal.

Could be.  I don't read much Russian, but I think this may be a "joe
job".  The site seems to be pretty legitimate, at first glance.  The
odd thing is, the spam email seems to originate from somewhere in
China.  Not to mention that I really can't see a Russian company
co-operating with the FBI ...


Fritz Whittington
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:36:35 -0600
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: Treo 600 - Not Turning Off


Jeff wrote:

> Ever since I got my Treo 600, it has not been able to turn itself off
> when it is charging. Even though, I have the setting "turn off after 1
> minute", it stays on all night when I have it plugged in and charging!

Perhaps the Treo is using its microprocessor to monitor the charging 
process.  I know the HP100LX and 200LX work like this; even pressing the 
Power button won't turn them off when they're plugged in with battery 
charging enabled.


> ... will this hurt the Treo if the screen stays on overnight when
> charging?

Probably not.  The backlight probably has a lifespan, so if it's on all 
the time that could cause problems.  But the LCD doesn't care.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: Ijaz Ahmed <ijaz18@hotmail.com>
Subject: Wireless Transmission
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:10:32 +0500


Hi!

I am Ijaz Ahmed from Pakistan .

Here are my research articles about Wireless Transmission
Please post them in the Digest For the benefit Of Telecomm readers.

Thanks!

Ijaz

                  WIRELESS TRANSMISSION


For unguided media, transmission and reception are achieved by means
of an antenna. For transmission, the antenna radiates electromagnetic
energy into the medium (usually air), and for reception, the antenna
picks up electromagnetic waves from the surrounding medium. There are
basically two types of configurations for wireless transmission:
directional and omnidirectional. For the directional configuration,
the transmitting antenna puts out a focused electromagnetic beam; the
transmitting and receiving antennas must therefore be carefully
aligned.  In the omnidirectional case, the transmitted signal spreads
out in all directions and can be received by many antennas. In
general, the higher the frequency of a signal, the more it is possible
to focus it into a directional beam.

Three general ranges of frequencies are of interest in our discussion
of wireless transmission. Frequencies in the range of about 2 GHz
(gigahertz = 109 Hz) to 40 GHz are referred to as microwave
frequencies. At these frequencies, highly directional beams are
possible, and microwave is quite suitable for point-to-point
transmission. Microwave is also used for satellite communications.
Frequencies in the range 30 MHz to 1 GHz are suitable for
omnidirectional applications. We refer to this range as the broadcast
radio range.

Another important frequency range, for local applications, is the
infrared portion of the spectrum. This covers, roughly, from 3 X 10 n
to 2 X 10M Hz. Infrared is useful to local point-to-point and
multipoint applications within confined areas such as a single room.


Terrestrial Microwave
Physical Description

The most common type of microwave antenna is the parabolic dish. The
antenna is fixed rigidly and focuses a narrow beam to achieve line
of-sight transmission to the receiving antenna. Microwave antennas are
usually located at substantial heights above ground level in order to
extend the range between antennas and to be able to transmit over
intervening obstacles. To achieve long-distance transmission, a series
of microwave relay towers is used, and point-to-point microwave links
are strung together over the desired distance.


Applications

The primary use for terrestrial microwave systems is in long-haul
telecommunications service, as an alternative to coaxial cable or
optical fiber. The microwave facility requires far fewer amplifiers or
repeaters than coaxial cable requires over the same distance, but
necessitates line-of-sight transmission. Microwave is commonly used
for both voice and television transmission.

Another increasingly common use of microwave is for short point-to-
point links between buildings. This can be used for closed-circuit TV
or as a data link between local-area networks. Short-haul microwave
can also be used for "bypass"applications. A business can establish a
microwave link to a long-distance telecommunications facility in the
same city, bypassing the local telephone company.

Transmission Characteristics

Microwave transmission covers a substantial portion of the electro-
magnetic spectrum. Common frequencies used for transmission are in the
range 2 to 40 GHz. The higher the frequency used, the higher the
potential bandwidth and therefore the higher the potential data rate.

As with any transmission system, a main source of loss is attenuation.
This loss is proportionally less than with twisted pair or coaxial
cable, allowing repeaters or amplifiers to be placed farther apart for
microwave systems-10 to 100 km is typical. Attenuation is increased
with rainfall. The effects of rainfall become especially noticeable
above 10 GHz. Another source of impairment is interference. With the
growing popularity of microwave, transmission areas overlap and
interference is always a danger. Thus, the assignment of frequency
bands is strictly regulated.


Satellite Microwave
Physical Description

A communication satellite is, in effect, a microwave relay station. It
is used to link two or more ground-based microwave
transmitter/receivers, known as earth stations or ground stations. The
satellite receives transmissions on one frequency band (uplink),
amplifies or repeats the signal, and transmits it on another frequency
(downlink). A single orbiting satellite will operate on a number of
frequency bands, called transponder channels or simply transponders.

Two common configurations for satellite communication are generally
used In the first, the satellite is used to provide a point-to-point
link between two distant ground-based antennas. In the second, the
satellite provides communications between one ground-based transmitter
and a number of ground-based receivers.

For a communication satellite to function effectively, it is generally
required that it remain stationary with respect to its position over
the earth. Otherwise, it would not be within the line of sight of its
earth stations at all times.

Applications

The communication satellite is a technological revolution as important
as fiber optics. Among the most important applications for satellites:

  1. Television distribution

  2. Long-distance telephone transmission

  3. Private business networks

Because of their broadcast nature, satellites are well suited to
television distribution and are being used extensively for this
purpose throughout the world. In its traditional use, a network
provides programming from a central location. Programs are transmitted
to the satellite and then broadcast down to a number of stations,
which then distribute the programs to individual viewers. A more
recent application of satellite technology to television distribution
is direct broadcast satellite (DBS), in which satellite video signals
are transmitted directly to the home user.

Satellite transmission is also used for point-to-point trunks between
telephone exchange offices in public telephone networks. It is the
useful medium forhigh-usage international trunks and is competitive
with terrestrial systems for many long-distance intranational links,
particularly in remote and undeveloped areas.

Finally, there are a number of business data applications for
satellite.  The satellite provider can divide the total capacity into
a number of channels and lease these channels to individual business
users. A user equipped with the antennas at a number of sites can use
a satellite channel for a private network. Traditionally, such
applications have been quite expensive and limited to larger
organizations with high-volume requirements. Today, the very small
aperture terminal (VSAT) system, which provides a low-cost alternative
is also in use . A number of subscriber stations are equipped with
low-cost VSAT antennas. Using some discipline, these stations share a
satellite transmission capacity for transmission to a hub station. The
hub station can exchange messages with each of the subscribers and can
relay messages between subscribers.


Transmission Characteristics

The optimum frequency range for satellite transmission is in the range 1
to 10 GHz. Below 1 GHz, there is significant noise from natural sources,
including galactic, solar, and atmospheric noise, and human made
interference from various electronic devices. Above 10 GHz, the signal
is severely attenuated by atmospheric absorption and precipitation.


Most satellites providing point-to-point service today use a frequency
band width in the range 5.925 to 6.425 GHz for transmission from earth
to satellite (uplink) and a bandwidth in the range 4.7 to 4.2 GHz for
transmission from satellite to earth (downlink). This combination is
referred to as the 4/6-GHz band, or C band. Note that the uplink and
downlink frequencies differ. For continuous operation without
interference, a satellite cannot transmit and receive on the same
frequency. Thus, signals received from a ground station on one
frequency must be transmitted back on another.

Several properties of satellite communication should be noted. First,
because of the long distances involved, there is a propagation delay
of about 0.25 sec from transmission from one earth station to
reception by another earth station. This delay is noticeable in
ordinary telephone conversations. It also introduces problems in the
areas of error control and flow control . Second, satellite microwave
is inherently a broadcast facility. Many stations can transmit to the
satellite, and a transmission from a satellite can be received by many
stations.

------------------------------

From: Ijaz Ahmed <ijaz18@hotmail.com>
Subject: Optical Fiber
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:13:51 +0500



OPTICAL FIBER
Physical Description

An optical fiber is a thin, flexible medium capable of conducting an
optical ray. Various glasses and plastics can be used to make optical
fibers. The lowest losses have been obtained using fibers of ultrapure
fused silica. Ultrapure fiber is difficult to manufacture; higher-loss
multi component glass fibers are more economical and still provide
good performance. Plastic fiber is even less costly and can be used
for short-haul links, for which moderately high losses are acceptable.

An optical fiber has a cylindrical shape and consists of three
concentric sections . The two innermost are two types of glass with
different indexes of refraction. The center one is called the core,
and the next layer the cladding. These two sections of glass are
covered by a protective and light absorbing jacket. Optical fibers are
grouped together into optical cables.


Applications

One of the most significant technological breakthroughs in data
transmission has been the development of practical fiber optic
communications systems. Optical fiber already enjoys considerable use
in long-distance telecommunications, and its use in military
applications is growing. The continuing improvements in performance
and decline in prices, together with the inherent advantages of
optical fiber, have made it increasingly attractive for local-area
networking. The following characteristics distinguish optical fiber
from twisted pair or coaxial cable:

Greater capacity. The potential bandwidth, and hence data rate, of
optical fiber is immense; data rates of 2 Gbps over tens of kilometers
have been demonstrated. Compare this to the practical maximum of
hundreds of Mbps over about 1 km for coaxial cable and just a few Mbps
over 1 km or up to 100 Mbps over a few tens of meters for twisted
pair.

Smaller size and lighter weight. Optical fibers are considerably
thinner than coaxial cable or bundled twisted-pair cable-at least an
order of magnitude thinner for comparable information transmission
capacity. For cramped conduits in buildings and underground along
public rights of-way, the advantage of small size is considerable. The
corresponding reduction in weight reduces structural support
requirements.

Lower attenuation. Attenuation is significantly lower for optical
fiber than for coaxial cable or twisted pair and is constant over a
wide range of frequencies.

Electromagnetic isolation. Optical fiber systems are not affected by
external electromagnetic fields. Thus, the system is not vulnerable to
interference, impulse noise, or crosstalk. By the same token, fibers
do not radiate energy, causing little interference with other equip-
ment and providing a high degree of security from eavesdropping. In
addition, fiber is inherently difficult to tap.

Greater repeater spacing. Fewer repeaters means lower cost and fewer
sources of error. From this point of view the performance of optical
fiber systems has been steadily improving.

Five basic categories of application have become important for optical
fiber:


  1. Long-haul trunks

  2. Metropolitan trunks

  3. Rural exchange trunks

  4. Subscriber loops

  5. Local-area networks

Long-haul fiber transmission is becoming increasingly common in the
telephone network. Long-haul routes average about 900 miles in length
and offer high capacity (typically, 20,000 to 60,000 voice
channels). These systems compete economically with microwave and have
so under priced coaxial cable in many developed countries that coaxial
cable is rapidly being phased out of the telephone network in such
countries.

Metropolitan trunking circuits have an average length of 7.8 miles and
may have as many as 100,000 voice channels in a trunk group. Most
facilities are installed in underground conduits and are repeaterless,
joining telephone exchanges in a metropolitan or city area. Included
in this category are routes that link long-haul microwave facilities
that terminate at a city perimeter to the main telephone exchange
building downtown.

Rural exchange trunks have circuit lengths ranging from 25 to 100
miles and link towns and villages. In the network , they often connect
the exchanges of different telephone companies. Most of these systems
have fewer than 5000 voice channels. The technology used in these
applications competes with microwave facilities.

Subscriber loop circuits are fibers that run directly from the central
exchange to a subscriber. These facilities are beginning to displace
twisted pair and coaxial cable links as the telephone networks evolve
into full-service networks capable of handling not only voice and data
but also image and video. The initial penetration of optical fiber in
this application is for the business subscriber, but fiber
transmission into the home will soon begin to appear.

A final important application of optical fiber is for local-area
networks.  Recently, standards have been developed and products
introduced for optical fiber networks that have a total capacity of
100 Mbps and can support hundreds or even thousands of stations in a
large office building or a complex of buildings. The advantages of
optical fiber over twisted pair and coaxial cable become more
compelling as the demand for all types of information (voice, data,
image, video) increases.

TRANSMISSION CHARACTERISTICS

Optical fiber systems operate in the range of about 1014 to 1015 Hz;
this covers portions of the infrared and visible spectrums. The
principle of optical fiber transmission is as follows.

Light from a source enters the cylindrical glass or plastic core. Rays
at shallow angles are reflected and propagated along the fiber; other
rays are absorbed by the surrounding material. This form of
propagation is called multimode, referring to the variety of angles
that will reflect. When the fiber core radius is reduced, fewer angles
will reflect. By reducing the radius of the core to the order of a
wavelength, only a single angle or mode can pass: the axial ray. This
single-mode propagation provides superior performance, for the
following reason. With multimode transmission, multiple propagation
paths exist, each with a different path length and hence time to
traverse the fiber.  This causes signal elements to spread out in
time, which limits the rate at which data can be accurately
received. Because there is a single transmission path with single-mode
transmission, such distortion cannot occur. Finally, by varying the
index of refraction of the core, a third type of transmission, known
as multimode graded index, is possible. This type is intermediate
between the other two in characteristics. The variable refraction has
the effect of focusing the rays more efficiently than ordinary
multimode, also known as multimode step index.

Two different types of light source are used in fiber optic systems:
the light emitting diode (LED) and the injection laser diode
(ILD). Both are semiconductor devices that emit a beam of light when a
voltage is applied. The LED is less costly, operates over a greater
temperature range, and has a longer operational life. The ILD, which
operates on the laser principle, is more efficient and can sustain
greater data rates.

There is a relationship among the wavelength employed, the type of
transmission, and the achievable data rate. Both single mode and
multimode can support several different wavelengths of light and can
employ laser or LED light source. In optical fiber, light propagates
best in three distinct wavelength "windows," centered on 850, 1300,
and 1550 nanometers (nm). These are all in the infrared portion of the
frequency spectrum, below the visible-light portion, which is 400 to
700 nm. The loss is lower at higher wavelengths, allowing greater data
rates over longer distances . Most local applications today use 850-nm
LED light sources. Although this combination is relatively
inexpensive, it is generally limited to data rates under 100 Mbps and
distances of a few kilometers. To achieve higher data rates and longer
distances, a 1300-nm LED or laser source is needed. The highest data
rates and longest distances require 1500-nm laser sources.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My thanks to Ijaz Ahmed for sharing his
writing on radio waves and fiber optics with us. Those of you in our
readership who are familiar with these topics may want to critique
the papers presented above and possibly begin a discussion with Ijaz
on any errors, etc.   PAT]

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    Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones (Gail M. Hall)
    How to Evaluate Phonecards? (Barry F Margolius)
    High Speed Internet - Doesn't Allow New Connections (Harialbth)
    Re: AT&T Wireless Offer Provides Free Unlimited Mobile/Mobile (Hamilton)
    Re: AT&T Wireless Offer Provides Free Unlimited Mobile/Mobile (Eric F)
    Re: Help With Call-Attendant System? (SELLCOM Tech Support)
    Re: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, or Spam Server (Ed Clarke)
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From: Gail M. Hall <gmhall@apk.net>
Subject: Re: "Superman TV" and Telephones
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:05:10 -0500
Reply-To: gmhall@apk.net


On 12 Jan 2004 07:01:25 -0800, in comp.dcom.telecom message
<telecom23.18.6@telecom-digest.org>, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa
Hancock) wrote:

> I saw an old episode of the TV "Superman" (mid 50s) and 
> noticed how today's phones would've made a difference.

Some of those differences are interesting to think about.

Last night I watched an old episode of Columbo on the A&E channel.  I
didn't catch what year this story was taking place or what year the
film was made.

In this episode, the bad guy was a fairly wealthy radio personality
who had a fancy mountain mansion.  He also had a cell phone that he
used in his car.  Columbo decided that it would be nice to get himself
a cell phone, too.  Actually, he wanted to check out the guy's story
about calling from his cell phone when Columbo pointed out that the
call he claimed to have made from his house was not on the phone
records.

What struck me was that when they used their cell phones, the tones
were sounded as the buttons were pressed instead of the way my current
cell phone works.  Mine makes a beep with each phone press, but I
don't hear the normal phone tones until I press "Talk" on my phone.

I didn't have a cell phone before 2001, so I don't know if the makers
of the episode were showing the cell phone usage realistically or just
guessing how they worked.

Another thing in the story was that they would immediately enter the
numbers over and over again and *then* get some kind of beep that
indicated they didn't have a signal.  My phone has a little graphic on
it that indicates signal strength from the time I turn on the phone.
It also has a graphic that indicates battery power.  I would know
without entering any numbers if I had a signal or not.  I would not
have to dial any number first.

The household and office phones were all hardwired.  I didn't see any
cordless phones being used in the story.

On another issue, I noticed that the bad guy had a big TV, which he
said was hooked to a satellite with 200 channels.  I didn't see a box.
Also, there was no remote, so he had to use the TV's on/off button to
turn it on and off.

My parents had a satellite dish for their TV back around 1980.  It was
a big thing.  At first it could get lots of channels, but eventually
the companies started jumbling their signals so people would have to
buy a service to descramble the signals to see the channels.  By the
'90's, that satellite dish was essentially useless.  My brother-in-law
took down the dish last summer and has plans to make something else
out of it -- maybe something to let plants climb on or something.  

I learned one advantage of modern satellite service compared to cable.
My sister and her husband subscribe to a satellite service that comes
with two boxes.  They also alternate between two different homes.
They have a "dish" at each house.  So for the price of one
subscription, They can take one or both boxes with them when they go
to either of the houses.  It takes only a couple minutes to hook the
box up to the TV when they get to whichever house they are at.  I hear
you can also get a dish to hook to your RV or motor home.  You
certainly couldn't do all that with cable!


Gail in NE Ohio USA

[TELECOM Digest Editor' Note: Television and Hollywood tend to take
some liberties with the realities of cell phones in their productions. 
I do not think any cellphones ever worked  differently than the way
they do now.  PAT] 

------------------------------

From: Barry F Margolius <bfm@pobox.com>
Subject: How to Evaluate Phonecards?
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:14:01 -0500


I have found a phonecard company, ITG Services, that provides a good
mix of services for my needs.  Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing
if they are a reliable company or not.  Anybody got any ideas about
how to check up on them?

They're at https://www.talkitg.com/pub/index.cfm?loc=int

Thanks in advance,


-barry

------------------------------

From: minloson@yahoo.com (Harialbth)
Subject: High Speed Internet - Doesn't Allow New Connections
Date: 31 Jan 2004 09:36:19 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi,

I have a USB alcatel high speed modem. The problem is that my
connection seems to stop after a while. If a connection already exists
(eg:downloads, msn) it doesn't disconnect. But often it doesn't seem
to be able to make a new connection, through a browser, for example.
Sometimes after about 20 seconds it connects, sometimes never.

Has anyone had this problem, is there a reason?


Thanks,

Loson

------------------------------

From: Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org>
Subject: Re: AT&T Wireless Offer Provides free, Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:33:08 -0800
Organization: Copyright (c) 2004 by Jack Hamilton.  Reproduction without attribution and archiving without permission are not allowed.
Reply-To: jfh@acm.org


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> BASKING RIDGE, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 30, 2004--AT&T Wireless
> (NYSE:AWE) today announced an offer -- the first of its kind -- that
> can give new and current customers on qualifying plans the freedom to
> make unlimited domestic mobile-to-mobile calls at no charge to any of
> the company's nearly 22 million customers.

>     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40359863

Not quite free.  You have to sign a two year contract, which is free to
enter but time-consuming or expensive to get out of.

Most of the people I know with mobile phones are not with AT&T, so it
wouldn't help me anyway.  It's probably technically possible to offer
free calls to *any* carrier's mobile phones, but that's not what
they're doing.



In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and
security.  And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and
security.  Edward Gibbons


Jack Hamilton
jfh@acm.org

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From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Re: AT&T Wireless Offer Provides Free, Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile
Date: 31 Jan 2004 13:47:47 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> posted TELECOM Digest V23 #49:

> BASKING RIDGE, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 30, 2004--AT&T Wireless
> (NYSE:AWE) today announced an offer -- the first of its kind -- that
> can give new and current customers on qualifying plans the freedom to
> make unlimited domestic mobile-to-mobile calls at no charge to any of
> the company's nearly 22 million customers.

>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40359863

A nice idea, but not the *first of its kind*. This feature is one of
the reasons I left AT&T last fall for Sprint. For consumers it costs
an extra $5 per month, and for business customers its included in all
plans.

Oh, and you don't have to sign a two year contract like what AT&T
requires.

Eric Friedebach

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Help With Call-Attendant System?
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:32:51 GMT


jcoronat@paulbunyan.net (James) posted on that vast internet thingie:

> Does anyone know how I could assemble a system of telephone equipment
> that will do this?

I can't promise that I can offer a complete solution, but can offer
some help I believe.  We have a nice music on hold device that you
could use as your music source http://www.holdphone.com The 5000 model
has a CD player but downloads the audio from the CD player.

You don't really want to leave a CD playing 24/365 do you?

The other piece to the puzzle might be our Talkswitch product
http://www.shopvoicemail.com that allows people to "cue" and supports
music on hold.  I believe it also supports announce only mail boxes
and is expandable for more lines and more memory.

I do not offer this as a definite "plug and play" solution for you,
but just as a possibility.  We try to put enough info on our website
for you to research a product *before* purchase.

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com

Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic,
Motorola Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus,
Talkswitch, Watchguard!  Brick wall "non MOV" surge
protection. Minuteman UPS systems If you sit at a desk
www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

From: Ed Clarke <clarke@cilia.org>
Subject: Re: Need to Host Child Porn, Illegal Content, or Spam Server?
Date: 31 Jan 2004 19:48:50 GMT
Organization: Ciliophora Associates, Inc.
Reply-To: clarke@cilia.org


In article <telecom23.48.12@telecom-digest.org>, Matt Simpson wrote:

> Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.47.15@telecom-digest.org>:

>> I got this spam in email today. My question is, why don't police or
>> FBI nip this in the bud, stop it before it even gets started?

> Maybe because it's the police or FBI sending it out as a sting
> operation, trying to catch people stupid enough to respond to
> something that's so blatant about being illegal.

Yeah, like the myth that there are 14 year old girls on the internet.
No way, Jose!  They're all fat, balding 55 year old detectives.  Real
14 year old girls are at the mall strutting their stuff and secretly
watching 16 year old boys out of the corner of their eyes.

------------------------------

From: noname <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Comcast Takes on Broadcast TV For Local Ads
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:23:04 GMT


In article <telecom23.49.3@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com says:

> By Michael Learmonth

> NEW YORK, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Comcast Corp. (NASDAQ:CMCSA), the No. 1
> U.S. cable operator, has forged alliances with cable operators around
> the country in the past year to get a bigger share of the $28 billion
> local advertising market from broadcasters.

> The culmination of the effort, to be announced Monday, is called
> "Comcast Spotlight," the company's $1 billion local advertising sales
> operation, which will sell time not only on Comcast's systems but on
> others in 75 markets.

> The alliances will allow Comcast to sell advertising in regional
> markets served by rival cable operators, a direct challenge to
> broadcast TV which has enjoyed a de facto monopoly on local
> advertising.

>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40364114

They'll probably do just what Cox has done and which was one of my the 
factors in my telling them to take a hike. 

Know what ads they blocked? All the competitive ads -- for example we 
never saw DirectTV or Dish ads on Cox cable in RI, and very few Verizon 
DSL commercials. 

I'll be happy when there is real competition for the cable industry. 
Providence came so close with AB Cable but that happened around the time 
of the tech burst. 

------------------------------

Date: Sun,  1 Feb 2004 08:09:10 -0600
From: pieterek@spamcop.net
Subject: Re: Treo 600 - Not Turning Off


On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:36:35 -0600, Gordon S. Hlavenka 
<nospam@crashelectronics.com> wrote to discuss Re: Treo 600
Not Turning Off

> Jeff wrote:

>> Ever since I got my Treo 600, it has not been able to turn itself off
>> when it is charging. Even though, I have the setting "turn off after 1
>> minute", it stays on all night when I have it plugged in and charging!

> Perhaps the Treo is using its microprocessor to monitor the charging
> process.  I know the HP100LX and 200LX work like this; even pressing the
> Power button won't turn them off when they're plugged in with battery
> charging enabled.

<snip>

The Treo is a PalmOS-based device and should have in Preferences |
General | Power (IIRC, it is a PalmOS 5.x device), a drop-down menu
for "Stay on in Cradle" (or something similar". It sounds like Jeff
may have that set to "On".  Change it to "Off", and voila, the Treo
screen will no longer light up the night while it is plugged in and
charging.


Best regards,

Claire Pieterek
Sr Technical Editor,
Computing Unplugged
http://www.computingunplugged.com

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Reply-To: <37273-feedback-29@lb.bcentral.com>
From: Entresource <entresource@lb.bcentral.com>
Subject: Entrepreneurs Resource Expo: Come Share Your Resources
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:05:33 0000


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From: Nick Ruark <nbruark@qualitymobile.com>
Subject: NTIA Forum on Public Safety Spectrum Management - Feb 10-11 - DC
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 14:08:01 -0800


Pat & Lisa....

Thought some folks on the list might be interested in this ---
especially since it appears to be the ONLY opportunity they may have
to publicly participate and/or speak out on the subject.

Nick Ruark
Quality MobileCommunications

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National Forum on
Public Safety Spectrum Management

A Public Meeting to Address Objectives in the President's Memorandum
on Spectrum Policy

February 10-11, 2004

The Department of Commerce's National Telecommunications and
Information Administration (NTIA) will host a 2-day public meeting
designed to gather information from state and local public safety
entities and governments about better ways to manage the Nation's
airwaves. The meeting will be held on February 10-11, 2004, at the
Omni Shoreham in Washington, DC. The Omni Shoreham is located at 2500
Calvert Street NW. Phone: (202) 234-0700 Fax: (202) 265-7972

This public meeting will offer an opportunity for interested parties
to participate in the President's initiative to develop a
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homeland security, promote economic growth, and foster new
technologies. If you cannot attend, but would like to participate, a
webcast will be conducted. Information will be forthcoming. In
addition, a comprehensive online survey will be posted at the
beginning of February.

The Department of Commerce will develop recommendations for revising
policies and procedures to promote more efficient and beneficial use
of spectrum based on the input gathered through this public meeting.

There is no registration for this free event. If you are interested in
attending or, wish to receive related fact sheets, meeting preparation
materials, and updated agendas, please visit
http://www.pswn.gov/dc_forum.cfm or
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/frnotices/2004/publicsafetyforum_01082004.htm


Forwarded from:
The Private Wireless Forum for Mobile Communication Professionals
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PrivateWirelessForum

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