From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Dec 23 00:42:36 2004 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6p3/8.11.6) id iBN5gaj27015; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:42:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:42:36 -0500 (EST) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200412230542.iBN5gaj27015@massis.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: massis.lcs.mit.edu: ptownson set sender to editor@telecom-digest.org using -f To: ptownson Approved: patsnewlist Subject: TELECOM Digest V23 #615 TELECOM Digest Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:40:00 EST Volume 23 : Issue 615 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Network Security Hacks", Andrew Lockart (Rob Slade) Re: Cromwell vrs. [sic] Sprint Settlement (Wesrock@aol.com) Re: Cromwell vrs. [sic] Sprint Settlement (Steve Sobol) Re: Cromwell vrs. Sprint Settlement (Isaiah Beard) Re: Motorola MD481 Cordless (Weston Fire 22) Re: Hanging Up On Wireless Spam (Steve Sobol) Re: Which is the Best Cellphone You Ever Used? 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The explanations are clear and specific, although you would probably have to be really familiar with UNIX administration to get the full benefit of these suggestions. Windows gets ten hacks in chapter two. While useful, these could have had more explanation in some cases, in regard to the limitations and pitfalls of the recommendations. Almost all of the network security tools discussed in chapter three are for UNIX, although some do have Windows versions. The same is true with the logging tips in chapter four, although there is mention of arranging to have Windows report to a syslogd. Network monitoring, and some analysis thereof, is in chapter five. Tunnels and VPN (Virtual Private Network) products are detailed in chapter six. Most of the network intrusion detection material in chapter seven concerns Snort. (You are not my NIDS, you are a Snort!) Chapter eight lists a few recovery and response tools. If you run a UNIX system and network, this book enumerates many useful tasks, settings, and tools that will help to make your systems and network more secure. copyright Robert M. Slade, 2004 BKNTSCHK.RVW 20041106 ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade@vcn.bc.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca rslade@sun.soci.niu.edu When art critics get together, they talk about form, texture, movement, meaning. When artists get together, they talk about where you can get the best turpentine for cheap. - Picasso http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev or http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade ------------------------------ From: Wesrock@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:06:01 EST Subject: Re: Cromwell vrs. [sic] Sprint Settlement In a message datedWed, 22 Dec 2004 12:25:08 -0500, BobGoudreau@withheld on request writes: > Steve Sobol wrote: >> Safeway, Kroger and Federated are all huge companies with lots of >> buying power -- Kroger, in particular, is by far the largest grocery >> company in the country, if not in the world. >> And we all know how big Wal*Mart is=2E > Apparently not all of us do. In particular, it has been a few years > since Kroger has been "by far the largest grocery company in the country". > Kroger is now a distant second to Wal-Mart's grocery business. See > http://www.progressivegrocer.com/progressivegrocer/images/pdf/pg-top-50-2004p > Bob Goudreau > Cary, NC A recent survey of retail grocers in Oklahoma showed Wal-Mart Supercenters and Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets were in first and second place, I forget which was which. Albertson's was third. There are no Kroger stores in Oklahoma. What is the "Federated" some have mentioned in connection with Albertson's? The corporate name is Albertson's and they are based in Boise, Idaho. Wes Leatherock wesrock@aol.com wleathus@yahoo.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is a chain of stores called 'Federated Department Stores'. I do not recall ever being in one of them. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Steve Sobol Subject: Re: Cromwell vrs. [sic] Sprint Settlement Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:55:24 -0800 Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com BobGoudreau@withheld on request wrote: > Apparently not all of us do. In particular, it has been a few years > since Kroger has been "by far the largest grocery company in the country". > Kroger is now a distant second to Wal-Mart's grocery business. See > http://www.progressivegrocer.com/progressivegrocer/images/pdf/pg-top-50-2004pdf= Point noted -- would it be more accurate to say "largest grocery company that doesn't operate huge big-box retail superstores?" As far as I know, Kroger stores are still grocery stores, not Wal-mart style stores. Our local Ralphs has some miscellaneous supplies -- pharmacy items, everyday needs like diapers, etc., but if I want to buy my boy a new bike, or get a 32" television, or I need a new battery for my car, I'm not going to Ralphs. Wal*Mart superstores aren't just groceries. JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For groceries, I find that Marvin's suits me very well, and its right downtown which makes it very conven- ient to walk to and from. That is, if it was not so cold outside today. (In the mid-teens all day today and yesterday.) PAT] ------------------------------ From: Isaiah Beard Subject: Re: Cromwell vrs. Sprint Settlement Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:22:53 -0500 TELECOM Digest Editor wrote: > 19 cents per minute ??? > $2.85 payphone surcharge ??? > I dunno, somewhere I read that Sprint was supposed to be so much > cheaper than AT&T ... They are! that is, if you're using one of their calling plans other then their highest tariffed rates. :) > of course I know this card was *free*, but > still, is the above their 'typical' rates? No, currently Sprint is very big on bundle or unlimited plans. Pay a set amount per months and get an unlimited number of LD minutes. The actual rate charged would of course vary depending on your usage, since you're paying a set amount that covers all of your calls for the month. For purposes of this settltment, they probably took the highest tariff they have on file and used that on these cards. Still as you've said, it's "free" and you're not paying for it. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yeah, but $2.85 surcharge on a pay phone call? That's totally ridiculous. I could see thirty or fifty cents surcharge, but $2.85? If you call an 800 number from a Sprint- controlled payphone -- let's say in northeast Kansas where they took over United Tel, is that the amount they charge to the owner of the 800 number? Or are there different surcharge amounts in use, depending on the tariff? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Weston Fire 22 Subject: Re: Motorola MD481 Cordless Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:45:21 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com When I called the telco today, just as a goof, the lady there was stumped as well. She checked our "settings in the switch" and we are indeed set to tone service. She had never heard of a phone requiring a digital line as well. As soon as I asked, she replied, we have analog lines. Yes, we have always used tone phones, never had to use pulse before this phone. We will see what mot comes up with, I replied back that yes indeed, we are setup for tone service. Bruce ------------------------------ From: Steve Sobol Subject: Re: Hanging Up On Wireless Spam Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:51:41 -0800 Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com Fritz Whittington wrote: > Every time you buy a product that is advertised on TV or radio, some > fraction of the price you pay goes to paying for those ads. OK, fine. The advertisers still don't get the ads for free. There is a significant investment required by the advertisers to create and air the ads, sometimes running into millions of dollars. JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. ------------------------------ From: Steven Fleckenstein Subject: Re: Which is the Best Cellphone You Ever Used? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:56:36 -0500 In article , pfschoeng@yahoo.com says: I have an old Qualcom QCP-820 on VZW. It is kind of bulky by todays standards, doesn;t have any of the frills, but when my wife compares it to her 4 month old Kyocera or my daughter uses it instead of her Motorola V60s they can't believe how much better the audio sounds to them compared to their units. It does the basics well and with a pull out antenna picks up the signal where others with stubs don't. Steve [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: On those cell phones with stubs for antennas, it is possible at all to loosen the stub and connect a telescoping antenna there in its place? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Jack Subject: Telecom Definitions: Meaning For 'Bearer'? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:14:12 -0500 Organization: NTT/VERIO What does Bearer mean in telecom? TIA! 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