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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:50:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 596

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    USATODAY.com - Airborne Cell-Phone Ban Likely to Remain (Marcus Falco)
    $35 Billion Sprint-Nextel Merger May Close This Week (Telecom dailyLead)
    Telecom Lifecycle (jrefactors@hotmail.com)
    Cingular Migration (jrefactors@hotmail.com)
    What Exactly Did "Telstar" Do? (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Strange Wireless Problem (Rich Greenberg)
    Re: Strange Wireless Problem (T. Sean Weintz)
    Re: Strange Wireless Problem (Kenneth P. Stox)
    Re: Strange Wireless Problem (A User)
    Re: Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future? (DevilsPGD)
    Re: Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future? (Tony P.)
    Re: Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future? (Barry Margolin)
    Re: Urban Legends Reference Pages: (Celling Your Soul) (Steve Sobol)
    Re: Radar Detectors (DevilsPGD)
    Re: Radar Detectors (-mhd)
    Re: Calling Card Needed - Short Interaction Sequence (DevilsPGD)
    Re: Calling Card Needed - Short Interaction Sequence (Clark W. Griswold)
    Re: Unlimited Calling Plan to India (Vishay)
    Re: Vonage Voice Quality Getting Worse (Flatus Ohlfahrt)

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:36:58 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: USATODAY.com - Airborne cell-phone ban likely to remain for now


Which newspaper do you  want to believe?

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-12-13-wireless-planes_x.htm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) Hopes and worries that regulators will soon end
the ban on using wireless phones during U.S. commercial flights are
likely at least a year or two early, government officials and analysts
say.

The U.S. Federal Communications Commission Wednesday plans to seek
public comment on whether to ease or lift its prohibition on the use
of wireless phones and two-way communications devices such as
Blackberrys while in the air.

FCC officials stressed that it could take at least a year to lift the
agency's ban. And there still is a prohibition by the Federal Aviation
Administration, which could take another year to ease.

The agencies are moving cautiously because of concerns the
communications would interfere with operating a plane and could
overwhelm wireless systems on the ground. There are also questions
about whether it's technically feasible to support thousands of calls
from the air.

There are almost 173 million wireless phone subscribers, according to
industry estimates.

"We hope to complete our work as expeditiously as possible, but
anything we do here at the FCC doesn't alter the rules at the FAA,"
FCC spokeswoman Lauren Patrich said.

To guard aircraft safety, the FAA forbids the cabin use of devices
that intentionally emit radio waves, like wireless phones and
computers that can communicate with each other.

A technical advisory group is to report back next year on whether
these restrictions should be changed, FAA spokesman Paul Takemoto
said.

Other electronic devices, like music players and standard laptops,
which can unintentionally cause interference, are permitted once the
aircraft rises above 10,000 feet. Usually, flight attendants tell
passengers once the plane reaches that altitude and those devices can
be used.

Gearing up for competition

While the bans are debated, the FCC plans to push rules Wednesday
aimed at boosting competition for air-to-ground telephone and
high-speed Internet services with frequencies now used by phones
embedded in plane seats, agency officials said.

A Verizon Communications unit is the major provider of air-to-ground
telephones on U.S. commercial flights. Others bowed out over the last
few years because consumers, in part, balked at the high prices.

Verizon's Airfone service typically costs $3.99 a minute plus a $3.99
connection fee per domestic voice call. It also offers some data
services for a fee.

Airlines, rival wireless companies and aircraft maker Boeing are
salivating at the prospect of more in-flight communications services,
including high-speed Internet, or broadband, to meet travelers'
demands.

The additional fees the airlines and providers could charge for those
services would be a boon to the ailing airline industry, which is
enduring fare wars and high fuel prices.

"Today the high cost of wireless when flying has kept the users low,"
telecommunications analyst Jeff Kagan said. "But once the cost drops
or once you can use your own phone on board, the quiet air cabin may
be a thing of the past."

Kagan, who does a lot of traveling, said he loves and hates the idea
of making and receiving calls during a flight.

"We should be very careful before opening this up," he said. "Just
think how annoying it is to hear the person behind you shouting to his
neighbor when you are trying to work or read or sleep."

Boeing and a private company, AirCell, have urged the FCC to auction
two air-to-ground wireless licenses and limit bidders to winning only
one to ensure competition. The airlines want the FCC to ensure enough
spectrum is sold so that a provider can meet the demand for airborne
broadband.

"Although the demand for voice services has declined over the past few
years, the demand for data services continues to increase,"
Continental Airlines told the FCC in September.

Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited.
Copyright 2004 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.


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Subject: 35 billion Sprint-Nextel merger may close this week


Telecom dailyLead from USTA
December 13, 2004
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=18081&l=2017006

TODAY'S HEADLINES

NEWS OF THE DAY
* $35 billion Sprint-Nextel merger may close this week
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* Analysis: AOL pushes free content to the fore
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* Global Crossing former chair avoids SEC fine
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From: jrefactors@hotmail.com
Subject: Telecom Lifecycle
Date: 13 Dec 2004 10:11:58 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I want to ask the phases of telecom lifecyle is like this? I tried to
find more info in the web but couldn't.
sales->ordering->provisioning->billing?

Please advise. 

Thanks!!

------------------------------

From: jrefactors@hotmail.com
Subject: Cingular Migration
Date: 13 Dec 2004 10:10:50 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Cingular and AT&T Wireless are migrated, does it mean they are one
company? But how come there are advertisments saying current AT&T
Wireless customers can migrate to Cingular? I am confused, and don't
know how the telecom business works.

Please advise. 

Thanks.

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: What Exactly Did "Telstar" Do?
Date: 13 Dec 2004 11:12:28 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


In the 1960s, the Bell System launche d a pioneer communications
satellite known as Telstar.  The event had great fanfare.  People
would be told when and where to look for the tiny dot of light passing
in the night sky, and go out to see it.  Models of it appeared in
museums.

While there are generalities written about it, I was curious about
some day to day technical details.

I am curious as to what exactly did Telstar do, once they got it up
and running.  That is, did it handle domestic voice long distance
calls?  Overseas calls?  Telegraph/ data signals?  Television
programs, either domestic or overseas?  Did it have an orbit fixed
above one point of the earth or its own moving orbit?

How was Telstar controlled?  That is, I presume any call handled via
Telstar could also be handled by more conventional means, and backup
was necessary in case Telstar wasn't working for some reason.  Did
engineers manually route transmissions and babysit them?

Was Telstar a production unit, expected to be a workaday medium, or
just an experiment to see how satellite communications would work?

(During overseas calls of the 1930s, engineers did have to monitor
every call in progress and adjust frequencies and even bands
(shortwave or longwave) to compensate for atmospheric conditions
affecting the radio.  There were advantages and disadvantages for both
shortwave and longwave and both were used.  I don't think these were
ever resolved until undersea cables came into use.)

How long did Telstar stay in service?  I recall a Telstar II replacing
it, but then the mystiq of satellites waned.  Thanks.

[public replies please]

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From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Strange Wireless Problem
Date: 13 Dec 2004 13:36:47 -0500
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.595.4@telecom-digest.org>, Matt B.
<redacted@giganews.com> wrote:

> Hello all, 

> I'm having a strange problem and I hope you can help ... A few
> co-workers are using wireless-enabled laptops.  They are able to
> receive e-mail from the POP3 server, but are unable to send.  They get
> the error "The server has timed out ... might be server problems,
> etc.."  If they plug in to a wired connection, it works fine.
> Everyone is using Outlook 2000 or 2003.  It doesn't matter where they
> are using the wireless connection -- at home, at the office, at
> great-grandma Edna's ... it all does the same thing ... and we are at
> a loss!  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

This is just a WAG, but the SMTP server may be set up to not accept
incoming wireless connections, or to accept them only on a different
port than the usual 25.

Talk to the security admin at the server site.

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Eastern time zone. I speak for myself & my dogs only.    VM'er since CP-67
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From: T. Sean Weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org>
Subject: Re: Strange Wireless Problem
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:00:43 -0500
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Matt B. wrote:

> Hello all, 

> I'm having a strange problem and I hope you can help ... A few
> co-workers are using wireless-enabled laptops.  They are able to
> receive e-mail from the POP3 server, but are unable to send.  They get
> the error "The server has timed out ... might be server problems,
> etc.."  If they plug in to a wired connection, it works fine.
> Everyone is using Outlook 2000 or 2003.  It doesn't matter where they
> are using the wireless connection -- at home, at the office, at
> great-grandma Edna's ... it all does the same thing ... and we are at
> a loss!  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

> Thanks,

> Matt B.
> e-mail:   moc.oohay@02091bttam  <--Blocked ... reverse it

Need more details. Considering that POP3 is not used to send mail,
only to retrieve it from the mailbox, there is obviously more to the
equation than what you have stated here.

The problem lies with the SMTP server (the server used to send
mail). it MAY be the same server as the pop3 server, may not be. But
things to consider : #1) if the server is behind a firewall, is port25
(the smtp port) open to users from the wireless network?

#2) DO not plan on being able to send mail via the server from
non-work networks!!!!!!

I cannot stress this enough!  If you configure the server to allow
this, then it will be what is known as an "open relay" and will be
noticed by spammers very quickly. They will then proceed to use it to
send spam. And then the anti spam folks will notice this, and will
blacklist your server.

------------------------------

From: Kenneth P. Stox <ken@stox.org>
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Subject: Re: Strange Wireless Problem
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:21:06 GMT


Matt B. wrote:

> Hello all, 

> I'm having a strange problem and I hope you can help ... A few
> co-workers are using wireless-enabled laptops.  They are able to
> receive e-mail from the POP3 server, but are unable to send.  They get
> the error "The server has timed out ... might be server problems,
> etc.."  If they plug in to a wired connection, it works fine.
> Everyone is using Outlook 2000 or 2003.  It doesn't matter where they
> are using the wireless connection -- at home, at the office, at
> great-grandma Edna's ... it all does the same thing ... and we are at
> a loss!  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

You need to check your smtp settings, pop is inbound only.

------------------------------

From: A User <serge-newnew2715@mailblocks.com>
Subject: Re: Strange Wireless Problem
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:43:23 +1000
Organization: Posted via Forte APN, http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:29:11 -0500, Matt B. <redacted@giganews.com>
wrote:

> Hello all, 

> I'm having a strange problem and I hope you can help ... A few
> co-workers are using wireless-enabled laptops.  They are able to
> receive e-mail from the POP3 server, but are unable to send.  They get
> the error "The server has timed out ... might be server problems,
> etc.."  If they plug in to a wired connection, it works fine.
> Everyone is using Outlook 2000 or 2003.  It doesn't matter where they
> are using the wireless connection -- at home, at the office, at
> great-grandma Edna's ... it all does the same thing ... and we are at
> a loss!  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

> Thanks,

> Matt B.
> e-mail:   moc.oohay@02091bttam  <--Blocked...reverse it

You need to use the SMTP server of the the ISP you are on, or it will
be blocked. This is normal antispam behaviour.

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From: DevilsPGD <devilspgd@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future?
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:05:51 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


In message <telecom23.595.5@telecom-digest.org> Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> Viewers would be able to record an episode with their DVR, but there
> would be a time limit on how long it would be available for viewing.
> The executive was pushing for an expiration date that coincided with
> the premiere of the next episode. The consensus of the cable
> executived was that it needed to be between 2-4 weeks.

Interesting.  Maybe it's just me, but the way I see if, if they're
going to work so hard at making sure I can't watch their programming,
maybe I should save them the trouble, honour their request up front
and not watch it?

For recreational use only.

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.cox.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future?
Organization: ATCC
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:05:49 -0500


In article <telecom23.595.5@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com 
says:

> Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future?
> Written By Rick Ellis, Monday, November 28th, 2004

> When HBO's "Six Feet Under" returns in 2005, it won't just be the end
> of a long-running hit series. It may also be a turning point for TV
> viewers who are in the habit of recording shows to watch weeks or even
> months later.

> Sources at two different cable companies have told AllYourTV.com that
> discussions have begun which will may lead to a restriction of use for
> fans of several popular television shows.

> The discussions are reportedly in very early stages, and the details
> are still very broad. But this is what I can confirm at this date.

> A middle-level executive at Time Warner has approached several cable
> companies and broached the idea of restricting the ability of
> customers who use those company's Digital Video Recorders to record
> several popular Time Warner TV programs.

> The term being used by the executive is "transitional fair use," and
> the scenerio laid out goes roughly along these lines:

> Viewers would be able to record an episode with their DVR, but there
> would be a time limit on how long it would be available for viewing.
> The executive was pushing for an expiration date that coincided with
> the premiere of the next episode. The consensus of the cable
> executived was that it needed to be between 2-4 weeks.

>   http://www.allyourtv.com/0405season/news/november/11282004transitional.html

If they succeed in doing so I vow not to buy a new television or any
new AV gear.

They have no right to infringe my right to time shift programs should
I wish.

As far as I'm concerned the media industry has made record profit over
the last thirty years even when you factor in the VCR and outright
piracy. Perhaps if Hollywood took a few risks I'd be willing to go to
the movies more frequently. But everything now is just a re-hash, as
evidenced by War of the Worlds and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Granted, the Hithchikers Guide to the Galaxy movie is coming so I
might want to see that. But everything else is just contrived crap
made by people who want to keep their career in the movies all comfy
and safe.

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Is 'Transitional Fair Use' The Wave Of The Future?
Organization: Symantec
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:26:40 -0500


In article <telecom23.595.5@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.com> wrote:

> A middle-level executive at Time Warner has approached several cable
> companies and broached the idea of restricting the ability of
> customers who use those company's Digital Video Recorders to record
> several popular Time Warner TV programs.

Sounds like another good reason to support standalone DVRs, like
ReplayTV and TiVo, rather than cableco-supplied DVR services.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Urban Legends Reference Pages: Politics (Celling Your Soul)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:17:28 -0800
Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com


Tony P. wrote:

> In article <telecom23.594.8@telecom-digest.org>, dvanhorn@dvanhorn.org
> says:

>> One thing I've noticed lately, is a lot of telemarketing calls from
>> Quebec.  Note that Canadian telemarketers are not bound by US law.

> I've noted the same thing. Is there some particular reason this occurs?

Because they aren't bound by US law ...

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From: DevilsPGD <devilspgd@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Radar Detectors
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:05:50 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


In message <telecom23.595.16@telecom-digest.org> Geoffrey Welsh
<reply@newsgroup.please> wrote:

>> A few years ago on a major road in my city, a system was trialled
>> where computerised signs would advise drivers what speed to travel at
>> to get the "green wave" of traffic lights.

> Shouldn't that be the speed limit?!?

Traffic light timing changes throughout the day (and in some cases,
dynamically based on traffic) -- this is unique, since it effectively
dynamically changes the speed limit (and this limit was not enforced).

For recreational use only.

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From: -mhd <not_real@invalid.com>
Subject: Re: Radar Detectors
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:36:12 -0500


Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please> wrote:

> David Clayton wrote:

>> A few years ago on a major road in my city, a system was trialled
>> where computerised signs would advise drivers what speed to travel at
>> to get the "green wave" of traffic lights.

> Shouldn't that be the speed limit?!?

> Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com> 

Sure, if you are maintaining a constant speed. However in the real
world traffic conditions can momentarily upset your average speed and
you may have had a standing start from a previous light.

Anyone remember the Halda Speedpilot used by rallyists?
http://www.geocities.com/haldaman.geo/halda3.html

-mhd

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From: DevilsPGD <devilspgd@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Calling Card Needed -- Short Interaction Sequence
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:05:50 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


In message <telecom23.595.10@telecom-digest.org> Joseph
<JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> Then their billing arrangement is broken. The FCC regs are that the
>>> pay phone operator gets their kickback of (usually about $0.30 [a])
>>> for _each_ call. If you (typically) hit the " * " button on the keypad
>>> to tell your phonecard service to let you make a second call without
>>> having to hangup and redial the whole kit and kaboodle, the FCC regs
>>> treat that one as, yes, a second call, with an additional $0.30.

>> Interesting, do you know what defines when a second call starts?

> Why is this such a difficult question?  You finish one call and begin
> another one.  When the second call answers the second call starts.

Say I phone my girlfriend while I'm out of town, we chat, then she
transfers the call to my parents.

Is this the same phone call, or a different phone call?

For recreational use only.

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From: Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <spamtrap100@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Calling Card Needed -- Short Interaction Sequence
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:06:56 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> When the second call answers the second call starts.

And the more technical response would be "when the call supervises".

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From: vijay.vishy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Unlimited Calling Plan to India
Date: 13 Dec 2004 12:26:44 -0800


India doesnt have Unlimited local or unlimited India-Longdistance. The
city where my parents live doesnt have unlimited internet facility or
even broadband. I can pay 150$ per month for unlimited india calling
plan [even if it is unlimited only during night 12 hours / day]

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From: Flatus Ohlfahrt <flatus@militaryretired.us>
Subject: Re: Vonage Voice Quality Getting Worse?
Date: 13 Dec 2004 19:23:03 GMT
Organization: USAF Ret


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 02:24:47 GMT, Mark Roberts wrote in
news:telecom23.595.9@telecom-digest.org: 

> John R Levine <johnl@iecc.com> had written:

>> Have other people had voice quality problems with Vonage?

> Usually, no. When it does happen, it seems to happen with
> calls to certain rural areas (one in Missouri, in
> particular). A second try at placing the calls usually
> clears them up. 

> ATA-186 behind a Linksys router with QoS enabled.

In August a kind soul reported that there is a problem with the stock
firmware supplied with Vonage's ATA-186s. I emailed Vonage tech
support and they flashed my ATA with an update that solved the
problem. I also made sure that QoS was enabled for my ethernet cards,
etc. Here is the message that was posted in August:

  On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:34:56 GMT, Cheetoh wrote in
  news:10idr89jr1ev410@corp.supernews.com: 

> So it turns out that the current firmware Vonage is using
> on the Cisco ATA186's has a bug that puts a 0x0
> value in the IP Precedence field, so instead of sending
> voip bearer packets with an IP Precendence 5 they
> are sent with 0, like all data.  I have worked with them
> and they have loaded a test image and it works
> like a champ now and my LLQ is working great in case any
> one else is trying to do this...

> LLQ-router# show voice queuing

>  Ethernet1

>   Service-policy output: shape

>     Class-map: class-default (match-any)
>       365625 packets, 66899306 bytes
>       30 second offered rate 591000 bps, drop rate 0 bps
>       Match: any
>       Traffic Shaping
>            Target/Average   Byte   Sustain   Excess   
>            Interval 
> Increment
>              Rate           Limit  bits/int  bits/int  (ms)
> (bytes)
>           1100000/1100000   6600   26400     26400     24  
>                3300 

>         Adapt  Queue     Packets   Bytes     Packets  
>         Bytes 
> Shaping
>         Active Depth                         Delayed  
>         Delayed 
> Active
>         -      3         361289    66615027  11338    
>         13704219  yes 

>       Service-policy : LLQ

>         Class-map: call-setup (match-all)
>           5675 packets, 1804013 bytes
>           30 second offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
>           Match: ip precedence 3
>           Queueing
>             Output Queue: Conversation 73
>             Bandwidth 5 (%)
>             Bandwidth 55 (kbps) Max Threshold 64 (packets)
>             (pkts matched/bytes matched) 25/8990
>         (depth/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/0/0

>         Class-map: voice (match-all)
>           129981 packets, 18261798 bytes
>           30 second offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
>           Match: ip precedence 5
>           Queueing
>             Strict Priority
>             Output Queue: Conversation 72
>             Bandwidth 165 (kbps) Burst 4125 (Bytes)
>             (pkts matched/bytes matched) 1349/279958
>             (total drops/bytes drops) 0/0

>         Class-map: class-default (match-any)
>           229969 packets, 46833495 bytes
>           30 second offered rate 592000 bps, drop rate 0
>           bps Match: any
>           Queueing
>             Flow Based Fair Queueing
>             Maximum Number of Hashed Queues 64
>         (total queued/total drops/no-buffer drops) 3/0/0

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