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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:28:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 579

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Lingo Voip SUCKS! (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Lingo Voip SUCKS! (Fred Goldstein)
    Re: Using a Fax Machine On a Shared Line With Voicemail (Ken)
    Re: GM Auto's OnStar Phone System? (Jim Burks)
    Re: Bill of Rights Day Dinner 12/15 (Rick Merrill)
    Re: Bill of Rights Day Dinner 12/15 (Joseph)
    Whose Ad Is This? Advertisers Play with Web Films (Lisa Minter)
    Bush Signs Internet Access Tax Ban Into Law (Lisa Minter)
    Supreme Court to Decide Cable Internet Case (Lisa Minter)
    U.S. Court Says Interior Dept. Can Stay Online (Lisa Minter)
    VOIP Development Software/SDK - New Updates; Pricing (LanScape Staff)
    Re: Kicking the Avaya Habit (Tom Betz)
    Re: Spam Gets Religion (Tom Betz)
    Re: Fax vrs. VOIP (Lisa Hancock)    

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: Lingo Voip SUCKS!
Date: 4 Dec 2004 11:04:31 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.cox.reallynospam.net> wrote 
 
> I'm 25 days out from my switch to Vonage and my number still hasn't
> been ported.

> I've been talking to the PUC, Verizon, Vonage etc. What I've gotten
> from this is a clear picture of the anti-competitive nature of Verizon
> and the structure of Vonage's network.

FWIW, a friend of mine switched from Verizon to a competitive carrier
several times (back and forth while he made up his mind) and never had
any trouble.
 
> It seems that Verizon only has to do rapid LNP with other FCC regulated 
> carriers. If you're not FCC regulated they can take as long as they want 
> and delay for whatever reason they wish because they're free of 
> regulatory burden. 

If Verizon is not under any legal obligation to make the switch in a
timely manner, then it is not their fault and you have no basis to sue
them.

Suppose the VOIP carrier fails to meet technical standards.  Will a
subscriber blame Verizon instead of the VOIP carrier?  That makes for
extra unnecessary and unprofitable work for Verizon which other
subscribers have to make up the cost.

I'm sorry I'm not sympathetic, but it's a double standard.  The FCC
declared the VOIP carriers to be free of regulation.  That means
they're on their own while other carriers have to put up with the
expense of regulation.  Maybe you could avoid Verizon altogether and
use broadband cable instead, as some people are doing.

Indeed, it was not that hard for our cable company to lay a
replacement broadband fiber optic cable through our area; and now --
in competition to Verizon DSL -- they offer high speed Internet.  As
such, perhaps another carrier could do likewise and eliminate that
"final mile" contention.

[Just to set the record, I am not connected with Verizon other than
being a subscriber.  Indeed, I was unhappy with other LD carriers and
switched to Verizon for all services.]

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:47:39 -0500
From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@munged>
Subject: Re: Lingo Voip SUCKS!


Can you please change my address to something munged such as
fgoldstein@donotspamplease.com or some such?  Thanks!

In V23 I578 Tony P. wrote:

> It seems that Verizon only has to do rapid LNP with other FCC regulated
> carriers. If you're not FCC regulated they can take as long as they want
> and delay for whatever reason they wish because they're free of
> regulatory burden.

Of course.  Number portability only applies to telephone companies,
either wireline or wireless.  You can port your number among phone
companies, but not to, say, a supermarket company.  Lingo and Vonage
have gone to great lengths to declare that while they advertise as
phone companies, they do not belong to any legal category of local
telephone company.  Their choice, actually, though it would be hard to
get certificated in all states and deal with every state's different
rules.

> Vonage basically buys excess capacity on two carriers switches, Paetec
> or Focal Communications. Interestingly neither lists their switch type
> on the telcodata web site so I'm left to surmise that in my case,
> Paetec is just buying UNE from Verizon. That being the case my number
> transfer shouldn't take more than a couple days. But Verizon won't
> treat it as carrier to carrier as they should.

You didn't look at the right database.  Paetec has a 5ESS-2000 switch.
I think they serve RI out of a switch in Hartford, Connecticut, though
they also have one in Massachusetts.  You can't lease UNE switching
capacity for bulk purposes like this.  Vonage or Lingo could,
theoretically, simply purchase retail PRI service from Verizon, but it
would not be a good business relationship, to be sure, and they would
not get as good a price as they get from the various other carriers
they use around the country (Focal and Paetec being only two).

The point, though, is that technically, the number has to be ported to
a Paetec or Focal switch.  Vonage is an "intermediary", a bulk
consumer of telephone numbers who is neither a carrier nor end user.
There's no particular reason why Verizon shouldn't be able to quickly
(in the usual time frame, not a month) port a number to either
carrier.  But it's quite possible that Vonage's processes don't quite
mesh correctly with their underlying carrier's, and something got
stuck.

> A few years from now when the Verizon's and SBC's and Qwests are
> marginalized they'll be wondering why they only carry < 25% of the
> market.

> Years of reliance on tariff and regulation are the reason.

Part of it.  But also note that Verizon and the other Bells have
bought into particular standardized Processes for ordering.  These are
computerized (OSS -- operational support systems), and designed to
facilitate "flow-through" -- place the order and no further human
intervention is needed, unless wiring is required.  But flow-through
processes tend to be brittle.  If something's not quite standard, it's
hard to make it work.  A key system is called LSR (local service
request).  Competitive carriers are allowed to use this.  They're also
allowed to "bind" their own software to it.  When it works, it's
great.  But it's far from intuitive, has a zillion obscure codes, and
it's hard enough for a human to operate.  Binding a competitor's
system to it is even harder, since computers don't have the
intelligence to figure out every possible obscure combination of
actions.

I know getting my ILEC phone book listing (non-standard, two numbers
on one line, each with a different name) straight has been a
nightmare, five years and running with three different owners of the
cable/CLEC.  The systems just didn't bind right.  Finally this year I
went to the supervisor and asked about going around their own OSS
right into the Verizon LSR screen that feeds the phone book.  They
have somebody who knows how to work it directly.  Maybe they'll get it
right this time.

Vonage and Lingo are newer operations.  It doesn't surprise me that
some of these things don't work right yet.

[Pat added:]
> None of the former Bell telcos give up easily; UNE-C was bad enough
> for them, but VOIP is really doing a number on them.

I don't think that VoIP really scares them.  They won't sell you DSL
to run it on until you pay for a "first" phone line anyway -- or maybe
a "naked" DSL surcharge.  So what's the risk of a second line?  The
cable companies can sell telephony anyway; they're setting up their
own dial tone, and their costs are low.  The quality of "parasitic"
VoIP like Lingo or Vonage won't be as high as real telephone lines or
PacketCable (which has reserved bandwidth).  And in any case, the
Bells are weaning themselves of LD access revenues anyway.  It's only
the rural telcos, who get high fees from the LD carriers, who are
worried.

Some of the rural telcos have their own little group, ARIC, which has
sent the FCC a proposal for intercarrier compensation in the VoIP era.
It basically says that you will pay high toll fees to call up your ISP
(Ye Olde Modem Tax, yet another plea), and will pay them measured
usage fees for bytes on your DSL too.  All to create subsidies to
allow inefficient rural telephone companies in high-cost areas to
provide local telephone service for half of what we pay in the city,
with their own subscribers only paying a small fraction of the cost.
I don't see their proposal going anywhere, but it's those companies
who are worried about VoIP, not SBC and Verizon (who have their own
products, after all), who are a little sick of subsidizing the rurals
themselves.

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From: Ken@PrivacyCorps.com (Ken)
Subject: Re: Using a Fax Machine on a Shared Line With Voicemail
Date: 4 Dec 2004 09:21:08 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


michaelm2030@yahoo.com (Michael Monteiro) wrote in message
news:<5a0f4a94.0411270704.7ae93fc9@posting.google.com>:

> Problem: I have a fax machine connected to a single, shared voice
> line. As it stands, I cannot receive faxes unless I disable my
> voicemail. I understand that answering machines can be used with fax
> machines on a single line because the fax listens when a call is
> answered by an answering machine and then takes over if the call is a
> fax transmission. However, this does not work with voicemail. My
> provider does not support distinctive ring. Do I have any other
> options aside from disabling my voicemail or getting a second line for
> my fax? I could get an answering machine, but I'd rather not go that
> route. I'd rather keep my voicemail.

> btw, my provider is Vonage - VoIP.

SIMPLE SOLUTION: Since you receive Caller ID information
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lowest number of rings to answer.

Secondarily, you will be able to block ALL unwanted calls from ringing
your phone by either blocking those you don't want, or by building a
list of 'Invited' callers.

You will be able to do all of this without any additional services or
monthly charges from your telephone service provider, and without
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The big bonus here, is that you will no longer be bothered by
telemarketers, misdialed numbers, pollsters, and other annoying calls
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If you have any questions or need further information, please visit us
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From: Jim Burks <jbburks@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: GM Auto's OnStar Phone System?
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:20:28 GMT
Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com


Al Dykes <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message 
news:telecom23.577.6@telecom-digest.org:

> Whenever I hear an advert for a GM car that features the built-in
> phone system I wonder what kind of cell service they use.  Someone
> here proably knows.

> ISTM that it's got to be analog, for the widest possible coverage, but
> I thought this was being phased sooner rather than later.

OnStar uses Verizon Wireless for connectivity. Original version was
analog only. Current product uses analog/CDMA.

------------------------------

From: Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comTHROWcast.net>
Subject: Re: Bill of Rights Day Dinner 12/15
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:21:39 GMT


alan@bloomfieldpress.com wrote:

> Bill of Rights Day Celebrations

> People across the country are celebrating Bill of Rights Day this
> December 15 -- the date the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791.  Why
> not celebrate it too!

> If you are in the Phoenix-metro area, come join the dinner meeting
> that evening, when the Bill of Rights will be read out loud from a
> parchment copy. Other activities are planned. Should be a lot of fun,
> time to contemplate our rights, break bread with friends, new and
> old. Bring your own copy of the Bill to follow along.

> If you're not in our neck of the woods, why not organize a lunch or
> dinner of your own?

> Spend a few hours cherishing the fundamental charter of our
> liberties. It's easy, just pick a place, and tell everyone. Did I
> say it's easy, or what? If you need some help or ideas, go to
> JPFO's website and click on Bill of Rights Day. jpfo.org. Let them
> know what you're up to and they'll give you some free publicity
> too.

> IN PHOENIX:

> Bill of Rights Day Dinner

> Dec. 15, 2004, 6 p.m.

> Hometown Buffet Restaurant

> All You Can Eat, under $10.

> 1312 N. Scottsdale Rd.

> W. side of road, S. of McDowell

That's all very well, but what STATE are you in????

[TELEOCM Digest Editor's Note: He said earlier in his message he was
in Phoenix, and I guess that means Arizona. *You* start your own
event and publicize it on that web site.  PAT]

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bill of Rights Day Dinner 12/15
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 08:40:54 -0800
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com


On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:43:40 -0500, alan@bloomfieldpress.com wrote:

> People across the country are celebrating Bill of Rights Day this
> December 15 -- the date the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791.  Why
> not celebrate it too!

Are we celebrating its demise as well?  That seems to be the direction
we're going with the present administration in the White House.

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Whose Ad Is This? Advertisers Play with Web Films
Date: Sat,  4 Dec 2004 11:41:04 EST


NEW YORK (Reuters) - When the manager of a coin-operated laundry
seduces a mother and daughter and convinces them to skip town, there's
bound to be trouble, or perhaps a movie plot.

In this case, the story is part of an intricate set of short Internet
films improbably designed to attract viewers to a new model of Mercury
cars (http://www.meettheluckyones.com).

Advertisers are devoting larger budgets to these Web hybrids of
entertainment and marketing, hoping to convince consumers they offer
not just a product, but also the elusive element of cool.

The financial payoff of Internet films, sometimes called Webisodes,
may be just as hard to pin down, even as marketers recruit top
celebrities and moviemaking talent for the job.

"These have really been about brand experiences and are not
necessarily campaigns that would do well by direct marketing
standards," said Gregg Spiridellis of JibJab studios 
(http://www.jibjab.com), which creates online animation. "I haven't
seen a campaign where there is really compelling content ... that
secondarily drives a purchase."

JibJab won national fame with its "This Land" spoof on U.S.
presidential elections earlier this year. Viewers called up the film
and its sequel 80 million times, according to the company, which has
also worked on brand campaigns for Sony and Kraft.

Spiridellis said Webisodes often work best by intriguing key consumer
groups -- some of them influential in passing on a good word about a
product -- rather than reaching the widest audience in the traditional
model of television commercials.

"TV will remain an important medium, but there are times when it's not
appropriate, so you need other options," said David Lubars, chief
creative officer at ad agency BBDO.

Lubars was behind a series of short action films for BMW luxury cars
three years ago during his tenure at the Fallon agency. In the films
(http://www.bmwfilms.com), actor Clive Owen plays a deft driver
escaping tricky situations in a BMW, and many consider them the gold
standard of Web ads.  

Mercury's "Meet the Lucky Ones" is a new effort to excite heavy
Internet users about a brand. The film is aimed at 20- to 30-year-olds
who are spending more time on the Web than other media.

In five weekly episodes that began Nov. 1, viewers follow the
destinies of 10 interrelated characters and choose the order in which
the story is told. The site gives details on Mercury cars, but the
company's Mariner model only appears briefly in the films.

"The customer asks to get involved ... and the obligation is to create
stimulating content that allows them to come back and back again,"
said Jeff Grice, director of digital marketing at Wunderman Detroit,
the ad agency that created the campaign. 

Mercury said its short films significantly raised traffic to its site,
with more than 1 million visitors in the last month who also spent
more time exploring its other contents.

AMAZON THEATER

Online retailer Amazon.com loaded its home page
(http://www.amazon.com) with short films starring movie and television
celebrities like Minnie Driver and Chris Noth, turning one of the most
expensive Internet properties into a home theater during the holiday
shopping season.

In previous years, Amazon would use its coveted home page to spotlight
products as gift ideas. "Amazon Theater," also designed by BBDO's
Lubars, makes no direct plug, but end credits list products seen in
the film and where to find them.

"We made an investment in thanking our customers and also helping
customers discover great content and products," said Kathy Savitt, a
vice president at Amazon. Several million viewers clicked on the films
in the first two weeks, she said.

Other ventures featured comedian Jerry Seinfeld and cartoon hero
Superman in vignettes promoting American Express, while Jaguar created
a part-animation auto adventure (http://www.x-ingover.com).

U.S. advertisers spent $5.6 billion on Internet ads in the first
nine months of 2004, according to research firm TNS Media
Intelligence/CMR. Internet films are not yet tracked, but executives
involved in such projects say their production and promotion expenses
can equal those of traditional TV spots.

Lubars said ad agencies are gaining the special expertise needed to
make Web films work: a combination of Hollywood-style scripting and
marketing know-how. Just as important is creating a film that fits a
personal computer.

"It's got to be stuff you can see in a small box," he said.  "And it
can't be too long. The longer it has to go through the pipes, it
becomes a glitchy, unpleasant experience." 

Others say the medium must evolve as its novelty fades.

"Long-term, the idea of driving consumers to a special site to see a
video ad isn't the best strategy," said JupiterResearch analyst Nate
Elliott. "You want to go where the consumers are ... drop it into a
piece of video content online that people are going to see at ESPN or
Yahoo."


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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Bush Signs Internet Access Tax Ban Into Law
Date: Sat,  4 Dec 2004 11:44:09 EST


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush signed a bill that renews a ban
on Internet access taxes on Friday amid praise from lawmakers and
trade groups who said the measure would encourage more people to sign
up for high-speed broadband service.

Bush said repeatedly on the campaign trail this year that a ban on
access taxes is crucial to reach his goal of universal broadband
access by 2007, enabling more Internet users to download video, music
and other bandwidth-intensive content.

The ban on access taxes, in place since 1998, expired more than a year
ago when congressional lawmakers could not agree whether to make it
permanent or merely extend it for three years.

Backers at the time warned that Internet use could suffer if tax-happy
states imposed new surcharges on the monthly fees that Internet
providers like America Online Inc. charge their customers.

But some senators said the ban would require states to raise taxes in
other areas to make up for the millions of dollars they stand to lose
as telephone service and other taxable activities migrate to the
Internet.

No states or local governments imposed new Internet taxes during the
year the ban was not in effect.

Congress approved a compromise last month that extends the ban until
2007 and extends it to cover broadband service.  Existing broadband
taxes will be gradually phased out.

"It's an important step forward in bridging the economic digital
divide," said Sen. George Allen, a Virginia Republican and a bill
sponsor who attended the signing ceremony at the White House complex.

"This measure will help make sure for those of lower income and those
who live in small towns and rural areas that they can get connected
more easily to broadband," he said.

Broadband costs between $30 and $50 per month, compared with as little
as $9.95 per month for regular dial-up access.

Roughly 25 percent of U.S. adults have broadband access, up from 14
percent in 2002, according to the nonprofit Pew Internet and American
Life Project. Overall Internet use during the same period has held
steady at around 60 percent.

Several technology-industry trade groups also praised Bush's action.

(Additional reporting by Jeremy Pelofsky)


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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@cableone.net>
Subject: Supreme Court to Decide Cable Internet Case
Date: Sat,  4 Dec 2004 11:49:13 EST


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court said on Friday it would
decide what regulations should apply to high-speed broadband Internet
service offered by cable companies like Time Warner Inc., a key case
that could decide whether such lines must be opened to competitors.

The Federal Communications Commission ruled in 2002 that cable
broadband was an information service and therefore free from most
regulations that apply to traditional telephone services, which
includes broadband.
 
But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit overturned that
decision, relying on its previous ruling that broadband via cable
companies had a telecommunications component and should be subject to
stricter regulations.

The high court will likely hear arguments in March, with a decision
due by the end of June.

Broadband, also offered by telephone carriers, is catching on among
many U.S. consumers who want faster Internet service to, among other
things, play music and videos. About 30 million Americans subscribe to
the service, but the United States lags about a dozen countries in
deployment.
   
President Bush pledged during is campaign that he would push for
universal access to broadband by 2007.

The FCC argued the appeals court incorrectly overrode the agency and
its expertise to oversee and regulate the telecommunications and media
industry. It has tried to limit regulations on the service as a way to
promote deployment.

"High-speed Internet connections are not telephones," said FCC
Chairman Michael Powell. "The 9th Circuit's decision would have grave
consequences for the future and availability of high-speed Internet
connections in this country."

But independent Internet service providers and public interest groups
have worried that, without some safeguards by the FCC, consumers would
have limited choices for broadband service providers.

EarthLink Inc., the No. 4 U.S. Internet service provider and a
supporter of tougher cable rules, said that, despite the high court's
decision to hear the case, it anticipated the appeals court would not
be overturned.

"This will settle the matter once and for all and finally give cable
modem users a choice in high-speed Internet providers," said Dave
Baker, vice president for law and public policy at EarthLink. (With
additional reporting by Jim Vicini in Washington)


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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: U.S. Court Says Interior Dept. Can Stay Online
Date: Sat,  4 Dec 2004 11:51:43 -0500 (EST)


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Interior Department can keep its
computers connected to the Internet despite the fact that hackers
could manipulate royalty payments owed to American Indians for use of
their land, an appeals court ruled on Friday.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that a
lower court in March didn't give the Interior Department enough of a
chance to make its case before ordering the agency to pull its Web
sites and e-mail systems offline.

Though an expert had shown that Indian trust funds could easily be
tampered with by hackers, there was no evidence that anyone had
actually tampered with the accounts, a three-judge appeals court panel
said.

Had the lower court considered evidence that the department had taken
steps to improve its computer security, "there would have been no
factual basis for disconnecting Interior's IT computer systems from
the Internet," Appeals Court Judge Judith Rogers wrote.

The appeals court has allowed Interior to stay online temporarily
while it considered the case.

Internet operations at the agency have been shut down three times
since 2001, when a court-appointed investigator found that hackers
could easily steal money from a system that allocates royalties to
300,000 Indians for use of their land.

The blackouts stem from a class-action lawsuit between the agency and
Indians who say that it lost track of billions of dollars in oil, gas
and mineral royalty payments.

A lawyer for the Indian plaintiffs said he would go back to the lower
court and ask for a full hearing to determine the security of the
Interior Department's computers.

Attorney Keith Harper said the appeals court ruling actually helped
his case because it found that the court has the authority to order
Interior's computers offline if need be.  The Interior Department had
argued that the court did not have that power.

"We strongly believe that there are still extraordinary (computer)
security problems and they should be taken offline," Harper
said. "This opens the door to that type of review further."

In a prepared statement, the Interior Department said it was pleased
with the ruling and would continue to upgrade computer security.


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From: sales@lanscapecorp.com (LanScape Sales Staff)
Subject: VOIP Development Software/SDK - New Uupdates and Lower OEM Pricing
Date: 4 Dec 2004 10:30:58 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


For SIP/RTP and VOIP application developers:

LanScape Corporation has just completed that latest release of our
LanScape VOIP Media Engine development software. With this development
library/SDK you can develop SIP/RTP based voice over IP applications
for any version of Microsoft Windows operating systems. The media
engine is more than a protocol stack. It manages SIP and RTP traffic,
call states, complex phone functionality, and much more. For those of
you wanting to check it out immediately, Google the phrase "LanScape
VOIP Media Engine" or go to
http://www.lanscapecorp.com/ProductPages/LanScapeVoipMediaEngine.asp

If you have to develop a multi line soft phone, voicemail server,
media gateway or another similar type of VOIP application for Windows,
our VOIP media engine is what you want.

We have simplified the licensing and have adjusted the OEM price list
for this product. Our goal is to offer you a cost effective
development solution that will get you up and running quickly. It will
not matter if you are a seasoned VOIP/SIP/RTP developer or a rookie.
The VOIP development package we offer really simplifies the
development task.

To check out what the LanScape VOIP Media Engine can do for your
application development, please go to our web site at
http://www.lanscapecorp.com and look down the right side of the page
for a headline that reads "LanScape VOIP Media Engine -- New pricing
schedule in effect!"

If you have any question, we ask that you email the sales department
with your inquiries. If you would like to review the Media Engine's
documentation, just ask and we will get you a current copy of the
compiled HTML help file that comes with the product. In the mean time,
you might want to look at a slightly outdated version of the API
documents located at:
http://www.lanscapecorp.com/DevResources/SoftwareDevRef/index.html

We have many interesting VOIP applications that will be unveiled soon
that are using the LanScape VOIP Media Engine SDK. You will be able to
use these applications in your own VOIP systems or use them to extend
the capabilities of user communities such as Free World Dialup.
(http://www.freeworldialup.com)

Thank you and happy VOIP-ing,

LanScape Sales Staff

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From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Kicking the Avaya Habit
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 01:11:11 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Some


Quoth Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please> in news:telecom23.578.1
@telecom-digest.org:

> Hello, my name is Geoff and I'm an Avayaholic.  You might think
> that ending a business relationship with the mob or kicking a
> drug habit is hard ... until you try cancelling a contract with
> Avaya.  

Been there, done that, back when it was still called AT&T.

It took years to get them to stop billing us.

Some things never change.


George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands, and
on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.  The more you
know, the less likely you were to vote for Bush.

             <http://shorterlink.com/?47TBP8>

     Feeling a draft? <http://shorterlink.com/?930B5U>
      For the facts on Iraq, see <http://optruth.org>.

------------------------------

From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Spam Gets Religion
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 01:18:48 UTC
Organization: Some


Quoth Patrick Townson <ptownson@telecom-digest.org> in
news:telecom23.575.13@telecom-digest.org:

> E-mail recipients are increasingly being offered religious
> salvation through bulk, unsolicited e-mail.

The first widely recognized Usenet spam was religious in nature.

Google Groups has it archived at
   <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9401191510.AA18576%40jse.stat.ncsu.edu>.

George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands, and
on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.  The more you
know, the less likely you were to vote for Bush.

             <http://shorterlink.com/?47TBP8>
     Feeling a draft? <http://shorterlink.com/?930B5U>
      For the facts on Iraq, see <http://optruth.org>.

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: FAX vs VOIP
Date: 4 Dec 2004 19:17:13 -0800


John McHarry <mcharryj@bellsouth.net> wrote 

> I believe the issue with FAX over VOIP is that VOIP uses lossy
> compression that does not treat FAX modulation gently. This tends to
> be a problem over any compressed link. 

For those who don't know, there are two types of data compression
techniques.  One type preserves 100% of the original data; the other
"lossy" accepts some loss of accuracy for increased compression
efficiency.  (Others can explain data compression better than I can.)

I still use dial-up for certain connections, and even if I had VOIP I
would still need to do so.  I wonder if I even could.

While my arrangement is growing rare these days, using fax machines as
dial up is not.  How do businesses that depend on VOIP use their fax
machines?

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