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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:34:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 550

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Bigstring - Erasable, Recallable, Non-Printable Email (Monty Solomon)
    Breaking the Ice 2.0 (Monty Solomon)
    Senate May Ram Copyright Bill (Monty Solomon)
    Motorola RAZR V3 Now Available at Cingular Wireless (Monty Solomon)
    DrayTek VoIP Router model, Vigor2900V (Chris Tsai)
    SBC Communications Announces Launch of Residential VoIP (Lisa Minter)
    Re: Wired News: American Passports to Get Chipped (Marcus Didius Falco) 
    Re: Trial Shows How Spammers Operate (jdj)
    Which Adapter For Vonage? (Hemant Shah)
    Satellite Receiver Calling Out Over VOIP? (Hemant Shah)
    Re: Access of Calling Card Dial in Number From Prepaid Cellular (Joseph)
    Re: Chechen Rebel Web Site Reopened (Henry)
    Re: Last Laugh! Purely Spam! MY PRESENTATION TO YOU (Tim@Backhome.org)
    Re: Vonage Tech Support Dead? (Sara Garland)
    Re: Wired News: American Passports to Get Chipped (William Warren)

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:40:56 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Bigstring - "Erasable, Recallable, Non-Printable Email"


Bigstring keeps the e-mail on their server and sends an HTML link
to the recipient.

Bigstring - "Erasable, Recallable, Non-Printable Email" 

http://bigstring.com/

http://bigstring.com/learn_more.php

http://bigstring.com/faq/

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:58:34 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Breaking the Ice 2.0


Forget the bland name sticker: The interactive nTAG is giving 
strangers something to talk about as they network at social events

By Diane E. Lewis, Globe Staff 

Schmoozing can be a trial for the shy, reclusive, and socially
challenged. Even those who understand the power of networking
sometimes quake at the thought of a roomful of strangers.

But a Boston company has come up with a solution that helps break the
ice at big meetings. All participants need to do is enter some
personal information into an electronic file before the meeting or
event: place of employment, alma mater, job title, hobbies, or, for
sports lovers, the name of the team they rooted for during the World
Series. An electronic name tag then helps get conversations going.

The brainchild of Boston inventor Rick Borovoy, the product is called 
nTAG: It measures 4 inches wide and 3 inches high, and hangs around 
the conventioneer's neck from an adjustable lanyard. Wearing the nTAG 
is a bit like sporting a tiny, six-ounce TV screen, except the screen 
beams messages to fellow conventioneers like, "Hi, Jane, I like 
strawberry ice cream, too."

For those who do their networking at cocktail hour, when the lights 
are dim and the bar is stocked, the nTAG lights up in the dark. It 
uses infrared sensing, radio frequency identification, a screen, and 
three control buttons to connect people with mutual interests or 
needs, including people who might otherwise gravitate toward folks 
they already know or hover around a buffet table instead of employing 
the art of schmooze.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/11/15/breaking_the_ice_20/

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:20:51 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Senate May Ram Copyright Bill


By Michael Grebb

WASHINGTON -- Several lobbying camps from different industries and
ideologies are joining forces to fight an overhaul of copyright law,
which they say would radically shift in favor of Hollywood and the
record companies and which Congress might try to push through during a
lame-duck session that begins this week.

The Senate might vote on HR2391 , the Intellectual Property Protection
Act, a comprehensive bill that opponents charge could make many users
of peer-to-peer networks, digital-music players and other products
criminally liable for copyright infringement. The bill would also undo
centuries of "fair use" -- the principle that gives Americans the
right to use small samples of the works of others without having to
ask permission or pay.

The bill lumps together several pending copyright bills including
HR4077, the Piracy Deterrence and Education Act, which would
criminally punish a person who "infringes a copyright by ... offering
for distribution to the public by electronic means, with reckless
disregard of the risk of further infringement." Critics charge the
vague language could apply to a person who uses the popular Apple
iTunes music-sharing application.

The bill would also permit people to use technology to skip 
objectionable content -- like a gory or sexually explicit scene -- in 
films, a right that consumers already have. However, under the 
proposed law, skipping any commercials or promotional announcements 
would be prohibited. The proposed law also includes language from the 
Pirate Act (S2237), which would permit the Justice Department to file 
civil lawsuits against alleged copyright infringers.

Also under the proposed law, people who bring a video camera into a 
movie theater to make a copy of the film for distribution would be 
imprisoned for three years, fined or both.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,65704,00.html

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:04:30 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Motorola RAZR V3 Now Available Exclusively at Cingular Wireless


   The Wait is Over: New Motorola RAZR V3 Now Available Exclusively
                   at Cingular Wireless

Ultra-thin mobile phone delivers technological excellence with
awe-inspiring style

LIBERTYVILLE, Ill. and ATLANTA, Nov. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Today
Motorola, Inc. (NYSE:MOT) and Cingular Wireless announce the exclusive
availability of the Motorola RAZR V3.  Delivering cutting-edge design
and advanced technology, the Motorola RAZR V3 brings an elegant new
twist on the classic flip phone to Cingular Wireless customers
nationwide.

Created with aluminum, magnesium nickel-plated copper alloy and
chemically-hardened glass, the durable Motorola RAZR V3 captures
attention for its beautiful form.  Space-saving engineering is
leveraged to deliver the latest in mobile technology, including MPEG 4
video playback, Bluetooth(R) wireless technology, digital camera with
zoom and an internal quad-band antenna for global communications.

Ryan Seacrest, the popular host of "American Idol," helped unveil the
Cingular-exclusive Motorola RAZR V3 at a Cingular store in Los
Angeles.


The Motorola RAZR V3 launch coincides with the availability of the
"Cingular Experience" in all Cingular stores. Just three weeks after
joining forces to become the biggest wireless carrier in the U.S.,
Cingular Wireless and AT&T Wireless have -- overnight -- truly become
one company by converting more than 1,000 AT&T Wireless company-owned
stores into Cingular Wireless stores. Another approximately 10,500
agent locations will be converted in the coming months.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=45040963

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From: cisco8899@yahoo.com.sg (Chris Tsai)
Subject: DrayTek VoIP Router Model, Vigor2900V.
Date: 15 Nov 2004 21:59:22 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi, 

I found out a interesting new VoIP Router model-Vigor2900V from 
UK site-www.draytek.co.uk   

This model has rich features with VPN, Firwall, IP Sec, DES, 3DES,
bandwidth management facilities and support FXS ports to make &
receive real voice calls.  Some friends told me DrayTek Vigor is a
reliable router model in whole Euro market.  Did you try to use VoIP
Router ?  pls pick-up Vigor2900V !!

------------------------------

From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:11:03 -0500
Subject: SBC Communications Announces Launch of Residential VoIP Service


http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20041116005259&newsLang=en

SBC Communications Announces Launch of Residential VoIP Service;
Another Step Forward in the SBC IP Transformation; Full-Scale VoIP
Service Rollout Planned for Early 2005

SAN ANTONIO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 16, 2004---SBC Communications
Inc. (NYSE:SBC) today announced the launch of a residential Voice over
IP (VoIP) service that will significantly expand the SBC IP service
portfolio and give DSL customers a powerful new option for
communicating with friends and families.

The full-scale VoIP service rollout will take place in early 2005. It
is preceded by a trial, now under way, in Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago
and San Antonio. The service will use IP technology and a DSL Internet
connection to deliver not only voice calling but also other enhanced
features, such as a Web-based portal and advanced call- management
capabilities that make it easier for customers to manage their
communications.

"When we fully launch our service early next year, consumers will be
able to choose between traditional and traditional plus next-
generation voice services from SBC companies," said Randall
Stephenson, SBC chief operating officer. "Over time, we expect that
VoIP will be a preferred voice service because of the features and
benefits this technology enables.

"Our VoIP services continue to evolve, as we introduce innovative
features that take full advantage of the power of IP technology," he
said. "Residential VoIP is an important emerging technology, and with
our industry-leading base of DSL customers and our ability to
integrate wireline and wireless communications services in new ways,
we're committed to playing a leading role in this growth market --
just as we have in the business VoIP market."

The SBC VoIP service will have a Web portal with features such as
"find me" and enhanced "do not disturb," giving customers the ability
to specify which numbers can ring through, as well as a click-to-call
capability that lets customers call friends and family with a click of
a mouse The service will also have popular calling features, such as
voice mail, call forwarding, call waiting, caller ID and three-way
calling.

VoIP technology uses high-speed connections to make voice calls to
anyone over the Internet or IP networks rather than over the
traditional circuit-switched phone network. Customers must have
broadband in order to use VoIP service.

"By adding VoIP to our extensive consumer product lineup, we gain more
flexibility to create an array of innovative and integrated service
bundles," said Stephenson. "With a portfolio that includes wireless,
broadband, video, Wi-Fi, VoIP, and traditional local and long distance
services, customers can get the complete range of integrated
communications and entertainment services from SBC companies."

Building on a History of IP Leadership

The SBC VoIP service is the latest milestone in the company's
emergence as a leader in IP communications and in its strategy to
create a host of new features and offerings that will seamlessly
integrate communications devices and networks for its customers.

In October, SBC companies announced the acceleration of an initiative
 -- Project Lightspeed -- to build a fiber optic-based network that will
use IP technology to deliver digital TV, VoIP and super high- speed
broadband services to 18 million customers in two to three years.

In September, SBC companies, which have provided IP services for
businesses since 1998, won contracts for several large-business VoIP
deployments, including a deal to create and manage a VoIP network for
50,000 Ford employees located in 110 different facilities.

Also in September, SBC companies launched SBC Unified
Communications. This new messaging service uses IP technology to
create a single electronic mailbox for multiple types of messages,
including e-mail, wireless voice mail, landline voice mail and even
faxes. The innovative service works over either a DSL or dial-up
Internet connection. Customers access the mailbox from any compatible
PC or PDA with Internet access or any touchtone landline or wireless
phone. The service uses text-to-speech technology to read e-mail
and/or fax headers over the phone.

Regulatory Rulings Help Spur Consumer VoIP Offer

Recent decisions by the Federal Communications Commission have
encouraged companies like SBC companies to invest in bringing the
latest IP services to customers more quickly. For example, the FCC
recently ruled that VoIP was an interstate service and that it would
keep authority over the promising new technology in order to eliminate
the possibility of a patchwork of state-by-state regulations.

"The FCC is moving to create an environment that promotes investment
and innovation in IP services," Stephenson said. "It is important that
federal, state and local authorities keep the road clear so that this
technology can reach consumers faster. The fact that we are
accelerating our investment to bring new technologies to the market
more quickly shows how good policies can deliver good results to
consumers."

SBC Communications Inc. is a Fortune 50 company whose subsidiaries,
operating under the SBC brand, provide a full range of voice, data,
networking, e-business, directory publishing and advertising, and
related services to businesses, consumers and other telecommunications
providers. SBC holds a 60 percent ownership interest in Cingular
Wireless, which serves more than 46 million wireless customers. SBC
companies provide high-speed DSL Internet access lines to more
American consumers than any other provider and are among the nation's
leading providers of Internet services. SBC companies also now offer
satellite TV service. Additional information about SBC and SBC
products and services is available at www.sbc.com.
	
Contacts
		
SBC Communications Inc.
Sue McCain, 314.982.8664
www.sbc.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:53:38 -0500
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Wired News: American Passports to Get Chipped


Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> said in Re: Wired News: American 
Passports to Get Chipped on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:50:59 -0800:

> Marcus Didius Falco wrote:

>> "The reason we are doing this is that it simply makes passports more
>> secure," Shannon said. "It's yet another layer beyond the security
>> features we currently use to ensure the bearer is the person who was
>> issued the passport originally."

> Moron. Let's store personal information digitally, and not encrypt it!
> That'll make it MORE secure!

>> While there are no laws in the United States prohibiting anyone from
>> snooping on someone's passport data, Roy Want, an RFID expert who
>> works as a principal engineer for Intel Research, thinks that the
>> possibility of identity theft is overblown.

>> "It is actually quite hard to read RFID at a distance," said Want.

> Sure it is. Didn't a couple major retail chains have trouble with
> people reading RFID tags this past year?

> Why should we believe someone who works for Intel, a company that could
> potentially profit big from a large deployment of RFID?

I guess if we're concerned, the thing to do will be to make the chip
unreadable. I guess putting the passport in the microwave should burn
out the chip. I'm sure there will be a lot of such instructions on the
internet in a couple of months.  :-)

------------------------------

From: jdj <jdj@now.here>
Subject: Re: Trial Shows How Spammers Operate
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:59:02 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


There is a stressed out twisted-knickers type on slashdot "suggesting"
that spam be responded to, including spam sent to bad addresses, to cost
spammers money.

It's been suggested before and was instantly squelched without
comment, except to accuse the poster of being a troll.

Seems that spam service providers charge fees for everything, from
using their address database to send spam to charging for each hit on
the website they provide to their spamming clientele as well as
getting a cut of each sale.

It seems to follow that at least some spammers can be bankrupted if
every single item from them were to get several responses in return.

It's almost like sending back empty business-reply envelopes that come
with annoying snailmail ads.

There is an added benefit if spam to bad addresses were responded to:
the bad addresses are confirmed valid and permanently taint the
databases, which get sold around and the fun starts all over again.

Should not be too difficult to set up a procmail script for servers to
send a few http requests to a spammer's website instead of bouncing
mail with bad addresses. It would cost very little, if anything for a
mail server to respond to a few spams but the spammer's site wold get
a huge number of hits and the spammer would certainly pay for all the
the traffic.

Instead of using filters to try to make it as if spam does not exist
(the Emperor's New Clothes approach) which costs the spammer nothing
at all, why not make the spammer pay literally by hitting the website
with http requests (the validated parking for shopping approach)?

The idea of spending the spammer's money is appealing and seems to be
a very tasty bit of revenge, much better than the current crop of spam
"solutions". But it has a weakness: It requires a large number of mail
servers cooperate in responding to spam instead of bouncing it or
dumping it in the bit bucket.

------------------------------

From: Hemant Shah <shah@typhoon.xnet.com>
Subject: Which Adapter For Vonage?
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:26:06 UTC
Organization: Aaja Fasaja & Co.
Reply-To: NoJunkMailshah@xnet.com


Folks,

  Is there a difference (as far as phone adapter features are concerned)
  between Linksys PAP2 and WRT54GP2?

  I already have Netgear wireless router and would prefer to buy PAP2
  if there is no difference in phone adapter features between the two.

  Circuit City has PAP2 free after rebates.


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it's backed up on tape somewhere.      Others can have their own.

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From: Hemant Shah <shah@typhoon.xnet.com>
Subject: Satellite Receiver Calling Out Over VOIP?
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:26:54 UTC
Organization: Aaja Fasaja & Co.
Reply-To: NoJunkMailshah@xnet.com


Folks,

  I am considering gettting VOIP service at home (probably Vonage), I
  also have 2 dish network receivers (one is a DVR) at home and they
  are connected to a land line. Dish network said that I have to have
  the receivers connected to the phone line, otherwise I have to pay
  extra per month per receiver (I think it is $5 per month per
  receiver).

  Will the satellite receiver be able to dial out over VOIP?

  Thanks.

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it's backed up on tape somewhere.      Others can have their own.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Vonage is supposed to be just like a
'telephone', and able to do anything a 'telephone' can do.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Access of Calling Card Dial in Number From Prepaid Cellular
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:00:27 -0800
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:43:32 +0100, Marek Tomczyk
<Marek.Tomczyk@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:

> So I have decided now to get an American mobile phone on my next
> trip to the USA.

Since you have a phone that's capable of GSM 1900 why not pick up a
T-Mobile USA "T-Mobile To Go" SIM card.  Full retail price is $50
which includes $30 of calling time, but these cards are often on sale
on eBay for much less.  Some of them even have extended expiry times
of one year's time.

> I like the offer of AT&T Wireless very much as it provides a long
> validity of one year for balances starting at $100. Domestic calling
> with the Free2Go service is very reasonable priced, but calling
> foreign countries is still expensive.

Unfortunately with the Free2Go service it will be necessary for you to
buy a telephone instrument as the Free2Go service is not GSM but is
TDMA and requires a TDMA technology handset.

> So the idea is to use a calling card service for this matter. The AT&T
> documents say that prepaid calling card service is not possible with
> Free2Go. Besides this AT&T says in its terms that certain numbers can
> be blocked if "abuse" to the network happens.

For making international calls from your mobile phone I recommend a
service called Gorilla Mobile < http://gorillamobile.com > which
provides very reasonable rates for international calls.  Calls to
foreign mobiles such as in Europe are a good deal more expensive, but
that's usually the case with all long distance providers or many of
them at least.  You must have a major credit card to charge your calls
or have a US bank account to debit the charges.

> Is calling a local dial in number from a mobile phone in America, in
> particular from a free2Go phone, abusive usage of the network?

If you mean is there a larger charge to call a US mobile as there is
in Europe?  The answer is no.  Calls made from the mobile phone are
the same whether calling regular land line numbers or other mobile
phone numbers.  However, you should know that in North America you are
charged both for incoming calls as well as outgoing calls.  Normally
you are also charged for calling "free phone" numbers (800/888/877/866
numbers.)

> Do you know if calling of local (regular) dial in number from American,
> in particular prepaid aka "pay as you go" services is possible?

I'm not sure if I understand your question but you can pretty much
dial any number either domestically or internationally from your
mobile phone whether it's monthly or "pay as you go" or as they call
it in North America "prepaid."

> Can such providers block access to those numbers?

I'm sure it's possible that a provider could block certain numbers if
they wished to, but as far as I know no providers do or at least don't
intentionally.

------------------------------

From: henry999@eircom.net (Henry)
Subject: Re: Chechen Rebel Web Site Reopened
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:38:03 +0200
Organization: Elisa Internet customer


BobGoudreau@withheld wrote:

> ... either Lisa or Reuters made a typo.

> And indeed, www.kavzazcenter.com comes up fine in my browser.

Thanks, Bob. But ... "kavzaz"???

D**n those typos! But, we know what you mean.       :-)

Cheers,

Henry

------------------------------

From: Tim@Backhome.org
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Purely Spam! MY PRESENTATION TO YOU
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:40:47 -0800
Organization: Cox Communications


Dan Lanciani wrote:

> I wonder who actually ends up paying in cases like these?  Are there
> any posted accounts that tell whether the bank absorbed the loss?  Or
> whether they were able to pull the money back?  These might provide
> some ammunition to argue with banks that universally refuse to block
> ACH debits on consumer accounts (as that would be inconvenient for
> businesses) and claim that they can clean up any fradulent withdrawals
> after the fact.

The banks love to act like innocent conduits when it comes to any issue
about ACH debits.  Nonetheless, with any given transaction, if the account
holder affirms on a timely basis that it's either fraud or simply not
authorized, the bank has no choice but to charge it back.

Banks hate the concept of consumers knowing that.

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Vonage Tech Support Dead?
From: no_email_address@hotmail.com (Sara Garland)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:59:16 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net


DevilsPGD <devilspgd@crazyhat.net> wrote:

> Just wondering if anybody has contacted Vonage within the last month or
> so and gotten a response?

> I sent two emails (about different issues) on October 25th. I received
> ticket numbers, but no response since then

I sent them a complaint yeterday -- my *69 is stuck, telling me that the
last incoming call was six months ago.

I got an automated ticket # by email immediately, but no human yet.   

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Wired News: American Passports to Get Chipped
From: William Warren <william_warren_nonoise@comcast.net>
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:10:02 GMT


On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:50:59 -0800, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>  
wrote:

> Marcus Didius Falco wrote:

>> "The reason we are doing this is that it simply makes passports more
>> secure," Shannon said. "It's yet another layer beyond the security
>> features we currently use to ensure the bearer is the person who was
>> issued the passport originally."

> Moron. Let's store personal information digitally, and not encrypt it!
> That'll make it MORE secure!

Yes, it will. If the passport holder knows that the data is available at  
every doorway, (s)he will take steps to protect it that (s)he might have  
neglected if "encryption" persuaded otherwise.

>> While there are no laws in the United States prohibiting anyone from
>> snooping on someone's passport data, Roy Want, an RFID expert who
>> works as a principal engineer for Intel Research, thinks that the
>> possibility of identity theft is overblown.

>> "It is actually quite hard to read RFID at a distance," said Want.

> Sure it is. Didn't a couple major retail chains have trouble with
> people reading RFID tags this past year?

> Why should we believe someone who works for Intel, a company that could
> potentially profit big from a large deployment of RFID?

Reading data outside the Immigration Office is what Bruce Schnier
artfully describes as an "Externality". Intel doesn't bear the cost of
identity theft, privacy invasion, and/or other abuses such as
customer-profit-potential-pre-screening (Have a good medical plan?
Want the ambulance attendant to know that?). Intel doesn't care about
the costs you pay; only its own.

Of course, this issue would be better seen outside the "Passport"
metaphor that's being used for this trial balloon: everybody "knows"
that you "must" have a passport to cross a border, so passports are
safe places to put rfid chips.

However, if the War On Terror [TM] or the Campaign To Save Our
Children [TM] or (pick your buzzword) requires it, RFID chips can be
easily and painlessly implanted below the skin in the delivery
room. Think of the advantages: you'll never have to prove who you are,
ever again, not to the cop at the demonstration, not to the cop at the
caucus meeting, not to the cop in your woodpile, not to the cop who's
knocking on your front door.

William "And then they came for me" Warren

(With apologies to the Firesign Theatre)

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