From editor@telecom-digest.org Fri Nov 12 14:44:23 2004 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6p3/8.11.6) id iACJiNl26257; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:44:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:44:23 -0500 (EST) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200411121944.iACJiNl26257@massis.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: massis.lcs.mit.edu: ptownson set sender to editor@telecom-digest.org using -f To: ptownson Approved: patsnewlist Subject: TELECOM Digest V23 #543 TELECOM Digest Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:43:00 EST Volume 23 : Issue 543 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Samsung to Sell U.S. High-Speed Phone in Early 2005 (Lisa Minter) Microsoft Search Encounters Glitches on First Day (Lisa Minter) Criminals 'Joining Finance Firms' (Lisa Minter) Nokia is Trying to Become Leader in Future Next Generation (SecQrilious) Access Charges For Local 8xx (Patrick Townson via TollFree List) Cable Internet, was Internet Without Landline? (Danny Burstein) Home Phone Link in India (Jackie) Re: Long Distance Service in California (Jackie) Re: My Vonage Experience So Far (Tony P.) Re: Pennsylvania Victims Group (Michael D. Sullivan) Re: 'K' v. 'W' Television Station Callsigns (Steve Crow) Re: Multi-link SR3 and Caller ID? (David I) Re: "We're From the Government"; NSA Recs on Securing Mac (Justin Time) Enhanced Easy411 Announced (Andrew Pasetti) Telecom DailyLead From USTA (Lisa Minter) All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. 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Verizon now uses EV-DO technology in a number of U.S. markets to deliver the Internet to business customers via laptop computers at speeds similar to home broadband links. Samsung's Skarzynski was speaking at a event where Samsung displayed several phones it plans to deliver to U.S. consumers in the coming months. He declined to give specific details about Samsung's first high-speed U.S. phone and did not say which service provider would sell the product. Samsung showed two EV-DO phones with computer features that it expects to launch in the United States around the middle of 2005. Its i730 EV-DO phone has a large screen and a keyboard that users can slide out from inside the phone when they want to type messages or e-mails. The i640 EV-DO phone has a keyboard that can be attached to the phone when the user wants to type. Samsung also unveiled its p735 phone, which has a high resolution camera and music player and will go on sale by year end at the fourth-biggest U.S. provider T-Mobile USA -- owned by Germany's Deutsche Telekom (DTEGn.DE). It expects to sell its RL-A760 phone to Sprint (FON.N) also by year end. This phone has walkie-talkie style capability and voice recognition technology that will let users dial phone numbers by saying the name of the person they want to call. Samsung plans to sell another phone in the first quarter aimed at people who use their phones to play video games. The n330 has a screen that can be made bigger for game playing and can be set to vibrate at key points during a game. It did not reveal prices. Samsung is the world's third largest mobile phone maker but is only about 500,000 phone sales away from taking the No. 2 position from Motorola Inc. according to analysts. 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For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ------------------------------ From: Lisa Minter Subject: Microsoft Search Encounters Glitches on First Day Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:34:48 EST SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp.'s widely anticipated search engine, which launched in test mode on Thursday, encountered some glitches on its first day, the world's largest software maker said. The new search engine, Microsoft's first assault on Google Inc.'s leading position in the market, returned "temporarily unavailable" messages to some users looking for answers to queries at its Web site at beta.search.msn.com. "In the process of making our new MSN Search Beta globally available, we experienced technical difficulties that rendered it unavailable for some consumers for periods of time," Microsoft said in an e-mailed statement. Microsoft said it had expected such problems with MSN Search during its beta, or test mode, while soliciting feedback from users. "We expected to find some problems in the beta, and we anticipate there will be additional times when we limit service availability for maintenance purposes," the company said. Microsoft had been working on its search engine for the last 18 months after deciding to challenge Google's leading position the market. Microsoft's said its new search engine would deliver results from a database index of more than 5 billion indexed Web documents and pages. Google said on Wednesday that it had nearly doubled its index database to 8 billion pages. *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ------------------------------ From: Lisa Minter Subject: Criminals 'Joining Finance Firms' Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:47:15 +0000 Members of organised crime are joining financial firms to commit fraud, a new report by the industry watchdog reveals. < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/business/4005355.stm > ** BBC Daily E-mail ** ------------------------------ From: waeg@latinmail.com (SecQrilious) Subject: Nokia is Trying to Become Leader in Future Next Generation Date: 12 Nov 2004 00:45:05 -0800 Nokia is trying to become a leader in the future next generation wireless communication and computing enterprise market. This new market replaces the current corporate IT infrastructure. Nokia is going to be in the direct competition with Microsoft, Dell,HP and other current corporation. Nokia tries to become the next Microsoft. by Markku J. Saarelainen The Spiked Octapoint Society ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:54:42 -0600 From: jobinvestments To: tollfree-l@yahoogroups.com=20 Subject: [tollfree-l] Access charges for local 8xx Can anyone tell me if 8xx calls the originate AND terminate in the same rate center (originates from local phone and routed to local DID) are subject to access charges from the LEC? If so, where do I go to get the rates? Thanks! TOLLFREE-L is a moderated internet mailing list for the discussion of management, marketing, policy, engineering, logistical and regulatory matters related to the business use of toll free service and toll free numbers. Also ENUM and domain name issues. TOLLFREE-L is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Judith Oppenheimer, publisher and president of ICB Consultancy. ------------------------------ From: Danny Burstein Subject: Cable Internet, was: Internet Without Landline? Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:37:22 UTC Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC In bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) writes: [ lots snipped ] > 4) Some people need higher _uplink_ throughput, and/or more > 'predictable' download speeds, even when a lot of their neighbors > are "on-line". In many (certainly, most certainly, not all) areas, you can, indeed, purchase higher levels of speed and/or quality of service/reliability levels from the local cableco. At a higher price, of course. The big complaints come from people/businesses who sign up for a standard (residential) service level and are shocked, shocked, they don't get everything they wished for. Personally I'm not at all comfortable with many of these distinctions, but the entire high speed (dsl/cable) internet concept is only a few years old. There's going to be a lot more shakeup, both pricing and speedwise, (and in technology) in the near future. _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ------------------------------ From: Jackie Subject: Home Phone Link in India Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 02:54:28 GMT Hi, Try Talk Is Cheap Inc. at www.talkischeapinc.net. You can get unlimited free Internet phone calls worldwide if you and the other person you're talking to are subscribers of the service. If only one of you is a subscriber then you would pay the low international rates. I live in the USA and my relatives live in Europe and I talk to them for free. I have the service for a few months now and I am very happy with it. Jackie > "NewPhoneUser" wrote in message > news:telecom23.530.5@telecom-digest.org: > Hi, > Can anyone post the various options I have if I want to take a phone > connection in Delhi, India. I know there are a lot of players now in > the market. Can anyone reply on the options available for Fixed Line, > WLL and Wireless. > As a home user, I would be interested in having a clear voice > communication link and an internet connection for casual web browsing. > Of course, it would be great if I get an idea on the cost of each > option. > Thanks. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do you still have to wait for months > and years to get new landline phone service in India? It used to take > just *forever* to get new service established in some of those > countries. How is it now? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Jackie Subject: Re: Long Distance Service in California Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:51:05 GMT Try VoIP provider www.talkischeapinc.net. They have a calling plan for $0.99 (99 cents) a month for service charge, and a flat 2.8 cents a minute for calls anywhere in continental USA & Canada. Jackie > "becky" wrote in message > news:telecom23.536.2@telecom-digest.org: > I just disconnected from SBC long distance. What other long distance > service is available? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So much is available, we could not > begin to list it all. Have you considered VOIP service which is > about as inexpensive as you can get these days, depending on your > volume of usage, etc. There are *much better* deals out there than > SBC for sure. Maybe someone will write you with some suggestions. > PAT] ------------------------------ From: Tony P. Subject: Re: My Vonage Experience So Far Organization: ATCC Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:27:12 -0500 In article , TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to kd1s@nospamplease.cox.reallynospam.net: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I agree sometimes the hold time when > calling Vonage is worse that it should be. I can also tell you that > as I have heard from others, Vonage is no longer using the Linksys > router for their adapter; too many other complaints including yours. > I have a Motorola adapter, which seems to do okay and one day in a > conversation with a Vonage rep we were talking about the (new for > them) Linksys router. I started with Vonage using the Cisco phone > adapter, switched over the Motorola since I have other Motorola > products here (Surfboard cable 'modem'), and asked the guy if I > should try the newest adapter they have, the Linksys. "Nah," he > said, "You don't want to mess with it. We've already had various > complaints on it, and I think they are going to stop shipping it > as well." > My suggestion is try your various (cluster of) phones one at a time > giving you one REN on the line at a time talking to the Linksys. > See if your two offending phones can at least work along with the > Linksys by themselves, i.e. adapter to one phone. If they can get > that far, then when they are on your internal network and act up > again, you may want to think about a possible problem with your > own network. Let us know how it works for you. PAT] Pat, I did try them one at time with nothing else connected to the linksys router. I put the unit on my scope -- it definitely isn't pushing enough current to drive a bell. I'm going to order Mike Sandman's internal electronic ringers and just retrofit my vintage gear with that. I'm also working on a pulse to dtmf converter -- I'll let everyone know when I finish it as then you can use your rotary dial gear with VoIP. What spawned that is I've got a nice 302 and a 1950's Imperial (The gold plated 202 with F type handset and network/bell box.) They work so well a decorative elements in this place. People are actually shocked to learn they're still functional. When WE built these things they were meant to last forever. The 302 is 54 years old and still going strong. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, you really should not have to buy additional equipment from Mike Sandman (although I am sure he will be glad to sell it to you) in order to get what you paid for from Vonage to work correctly. If you can document what you said your scope shows about the Linksys router (maybe with a print out, etc) then I would say ask Vonage to replace it for you. I have heard of 202/302 type phones (which always used the 'side-ringer' wall box to ring the phone) which drew heavy current to operate, but this does sound ridiculous. Let us know how your project works out. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Michael D. Sullivan Subject: Re: Pennsylvania Victims Group Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 04:23:15 GMT > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Alecia, before you attempt to re-invent > the wheel on this, you may want to check into federal actions in > recent days on Norvergence. The Federal Trade Commission has already, > not long ago, declared that Norvergence was a total fraud (and a very > good one, I might add), and they have declared that the leasing things > that companies like yours signed were equally fraudulent documents. > Some have suggested that the leasing companies were at best, very > casual and careless in agreeing to accept the lease assignments, as > 'holders in due course' and at worst, complicit in the fraud. Use our > web site http://telecom-digest.org to search for Norvergence in our > archives for all you would ever want to know about that bunch of > charlatans. As I understand it, essentially no one these days is > paying on that lease arrangement, no matter how it was phrased, nor > no matter how aggresive the banks and finance companies have gotten, > and the more agressive of the 'debtors' (who were defrauded as you > apparently have been) have begun looking into ways to force the > return of the money they already paid under duress from collectors, > etc. Read the last two months or so of this digest at our web site > for more details before you try to organize people in Pennsylvania > at some expense to yourself, etc. PAT] Pat, the FTC hasn't "declared" anything. It has voted to file, and has filed, a civil complaint. This, by itself, has no legal effect; it is just the filing of a lawsuit. Any action against Norvergence or the finance companies will have to come from the judge considering the lawsuit. Michael D. Sullivan Bethesda, MD, USA Delete nospam from my address and it won't work. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Mr. Sullivan, I thought the rulings of a federal agency had the effect of law. Or perhaps, fact that the FTC has filed this lawsuit will influence the judge already hearing the matters at hand. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Steve Crow Subject: Re: 'K' v. 'W' Television Station Callsigns Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:23:49 GMT >>> Louisiana and Minnesota both "straddle" the Mississippi River. >> In my experience (mostly in cable TV), the Mississippi-River rule can be >> more accurately stated as follows: >> "K" = west of the Mississippi River plus the entire state of >> Minnesota. >> "W" = east of the Mississippi River plus Louisiana parishes >> located in the Baton Rouge and New Orleans DMAs. >> But even with this version of the rule there are numerous exceptions, >> especially in the case of low-power television stations (LPTV, Class >> A, translators, and boosters). Do the same rules apply to radio stations as well? I would imagine so, but what about KYW in Pennsylvania? According to: http://www.kyw1060.com/stationinfo/station_history.cfm ... the station has moved several times (Chicago, Cleveland), but appears to have maintained the same call sign even in moves across state lines. Is this common? ------------------------------ From: dai_321@hotmail.com (David I) Subject: Re: Multi-link SR3 and Caller ID? Date: 12 Nov 2004 09:50:49 -0800 My understanding on how these routers work is that it monitors the first incoming ring burst, and then based on the ring pattern, forwards the ringing call to one of the output ports. Since Caller ID information is transferred between the first and second ring, that data may not be getting to your phones that are downstream. I see that some of the Multi-Link products (e.g. The Stick) have a pass-through mode where all lines receive the incoming call for two rings so that the CID is received, and then the unit kicks in and restricts the call to one of the ports. For their SR2/3 products, it says to contact technical service for a by-pass option (http://www.multi-link.net/html/tech_support.htm) I would be curious what the workaround is if you find out. -david i rcoutts@comcast.net (Richard Coutts) wrote in message news:: > I've been using a Command Communications ASAP DR401 for routing three > distinctive ring lines -- one for my home number, one for my business > number, and one for my fax. It has worked great, but it filters out > the Caller ID (I can put a Caller ID device in series before the > DR401, but I really need at after the DR401, at each phone). So, I'm > now looking for a device that doesn't filter out the Caller ID. > I'm looking at Multi-Link's SR3, but I can't find any information > online about how it handles Caller ID -- does it also filter out the > Caller ID info? Also, what is Multi-Link's web page? I haven't been > able to find it. > Thanks, > Rich ------------------------------ From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time) Subject: Re: "We're From the Government..."; NSA Recs on Securing Mac OS Date: 12 Nov 2004 05:53:26 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Kenneth P. Stox wrote in message news:: > Justin Time wrote: >> Nope. Windows is the longest running Beta test in history. Been >> going on for over 10 years now and they are still trying to stabilize >> version 1.0 > 10 years? Try close to 20 now. If memory serves correct, Microsoft > announced Windows in late 1984. Yea, I got to thinking about that and remember it was around '85 or '86 when we had what was called "Windows" installed on a PC in our compatibility lab. It really wasn't much more than Borland's Sidekick repackaged if I remember correctly. ------------------------------ From: Patrick Townson Subject: Enhanced Easy411 Invitation Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:59:50 -0600 If you are still using your telco's Directory Assistance Bureau at $1.25 or more per call, you may wish to investigate the less expensive *real time* DA service offered by http://www.easy411.com/telecomdigest where DA calls are just 65 cents. Andrew Pasetti of their staff sent me some email today with details on improvments they are working on now: ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Pasetti To: ptownson@massis.csail.mit.edu Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Enhanced Easy411 Invitation Enhanced Easy411 We at Easy411 want to take a moment to thank you for using our service and for your tolerance in our inability to automatically connect you to the listing you requested. Like the Red Sox finally winning the World Series, call completion has finally arrived. We will now begin offering call completion and other advanced options such as: Enhanced Call Completion Easy411 will allow the user to setup their account for call completion automatically on every call, automatically on no calls, or via a prompt on a call-by-call basis. Last Number Redial Just press *69 while the greeting ("Thank you for using Easy411") is played and Easy411 will either repeat via voice prompt or reconnect you to the last listing requested, for a cost of only 15 cents (plus 3.9 cents per minute). SMS Text Messaging Easy411 will send an SMS text message of the listing requested to your cell phone. Email Messaging Easy411 will send an email of the listing requested to your email address or PDA. Call Warning Easy411 will play a warning message and allow the call to go through when the number of calls per month you have set is reached. Call Limit Easy411 will play a message notifying the caller that they have reached their monthly limit of calls that you have set. The caller will then no longer have access to Easy411's operators. Company/Personal Billing Easy411 will allow users to flag their directory assistance calls as business-related or personal. These calls will then be categorized separately on your monthly statement. To be certain that this technological advance is robust and reliable we would like to offer to you the opportunity to act as a Tester for a week or so to work out any bugs that may be hiding beneath the surface. During this testing period, your calls will be completed at no charge. (Call completion will be offered at 3.9 cents per minute after this testing period.) We've set up a temporary number (866.528.9720) during this trial period. Only calls to this number will have access to the new enhancements before being publicly released. To participate in this test period, simply login to your account and enable the features that you find useful. Then call 866.528.9720 to try out the new features. Of course, your feedback is very important to us. So please send us feedback about these new enhancements. Thank you for using Easy411. The Easy411 Customer Support Team http://www.easy411.com/telecomdigest [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So you may be asking how to become an Easy411 subscriber. You login to the above URL to set up an account. At http://www.easy411.com/telecomdigest you will supply up to five telephone numbers you normally use for making calls to DA. You also will supply them with a credit card you wish to pay for your inquiries at 65 cents each. Your telephone number supplies them with the ANI needed for billing; your credit card is charged at intervals when the balance becomes feasable to charge you. This is *realtime, live* DA, not the stuff you find on the net which may or may not be up to date. Then, you set a speed dial button on your phone to punch out the 800 number to be called for inquiries. *DO NOT* just dial 411; that defaults to whomever your telco uses as a provider, at telco's price on your next phone bill. It is not that well known, but just like your one-plus dialing on long distance calls where the call defaults to whichever carrier you have chosen, your calls via 411 could be the same way, with '411' aliased to your carrier of choice, but good luck getting telco to go along with your wishes. If someone -- Mike Sandman for example at http://sandman.com -- were to built a '411 interceptor' to sit on your line and re-route your 411 calls, I think that person would have a winning product. But for the meantime, you have to dial the 800 number you are given to use the service. It is much less expensive than any other directory assistance bureau, and no charge to sign up. I am pleased to be the paid spokesperson for Easy411, and I hope you will enjoy using it. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:19:08 EST From: Telecom dailyLead From USTA Subject: SBC Plans $4 Billion Upgrade to Sell TV, Voice and Internet Service Telecom dailyLead from USTA http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=17472&l=2017006 TODAY'S HEADLINES NEWS OF THE DAY * SBC plans $4 billion upgrade to sell TV, voice and Internet service BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH * Nortel again delays financial statements * Investment firms consider joint offer for Adelphia * SBC uses blogs to enhance image among Net savvy * AOL to end broadband service in South USTA SPOTLIGHT * Radio Frequency Identification -- Get Your Copy Today! 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