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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:01:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 515

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Vonage(R) Launches Virtual Phone Numbers From London (Lisa Minter)
    InfiniCall Adds Brazil to Its Unlimited VoIP Calling Plan (Lisa Minter)
    Re: Infinicall Adds Brazil to Unlimited VOIP Calling (Angela Epstein)
    Verizon California Terminates ISDN, FX, Other Services (Jeff Sutter)
    DT003 Help Needed (Jabriol)
    Re: Old Stock Quotation Things? (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Baseball Broadcast Station? (dold@XReXXBaseb.usenet.us.com)
    Re: 'K' v. 'W' Television Station Callsigns (J Kelly)
    Re: 'K' v. 'W' Television Station Callsigns (Mark Roberts)

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:28:30 -0400
Subject: Vonage(R) Launches Virtual Phone Numbers from London


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/10-26-2004/0002310515&STORY&EDATE=

Vonage(R) Launches Virtual Phone Numbers from London 
 
Vonage Customers within the United States and Canada Can Now Have a
                          London Number

EDISON, N.J., Oct. 26 /PRNewswire/ -- Vonage, the leading provider of
broadband phone service, today announced the availability of virtual
numbers with London city codes.

Vonage's current and future customers can now select London-based
virtual numbers for $4.99 USD/$7.99 CAD per month.  Virtual Phone
Numbers are inexpensive secondary numbers that ring to the primary
Vonage line.  London-based virtual numbers make it less expensive for
friends, relatives and business professionals residing and working in
the United Kingdom's leading cultural and business sector to make
calls to the U.S. and Canada.  The people they are calling now have
numbers local to their calling area.

"For several months, Vonage's customers have been requesting the
ability to have London telephone numbers to communicate with family
members, friends and business associates," said Jeffrey A. Citron,
chairman & CEO of Vonage.  "Vonage has responded quickly to our
customers' demands that we make keeping in contact with friends and
loved ones abroad easier and more convenient by offering a local
number as a point of contact, no matter where you are in the world."

Full story at:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/10-26-2004/0002310515&STORY&EDATE=

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:28:09 -0400
Subject: InfiniCall Adds Brazil to Its Unlimited VoIP Calling Plan


Jack Decker notes: I think this is the first I've heard of this
company -- they do not seem to have the sort of web portal that most
consumer VoIP companies have nowadays, but this appears to be the
lowest monthly rate I've seen yet for this kind of calling area.  If
they really deliver unlimited calling to all the mentioned countries
for $15 per month that could be quite a bargain, but the very little
information given on their web site doesn't really inspire me with
confidence (How is their service utilized?  Do they have local numbers
for incoming calls, and if so, where?  What sort of adapter do they
use, if any? Their site is very short on information of that type!).
Please use all normal caution in dealing with an unknown company, but
if you do decide to try them, please post a review.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-25-2004/0002309136&STORY&EDATE=

InfiniCall Adds Brazil to Its Unlimited VoIP Calling Plan 
 
    LOS ANGELES, Oct. 25 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- InfiniCall
Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: INFL) is pleased to announce that it
will add the country of Brazil to its unlimited calling plan for all
InfiniCall VoIP subscribers, effective November 8, 2004.  InfiniCall
provides its customers with unlimited monthly calls within the
continental United States, Canada, most of Europe, selected countries
in Asia and two Latin America countries: Argentina and now Brazil for
a flat monthly fee of just $15.  InfiniCall Chairman, Gary Rasmussen
commented that "with the addition of Brazil to the InfiniCall
unlimited dialing plan, we now are able to offer coverage to six of
South America's ten most populous cities."

About InfiniCall Corporation

    InfiniCall is a rapidly emerging company in the fast growing VoIP
industry.  The company provides its customers with access to extremely
low cost, long-distance calling via the Internet, using only a
standard telephone handset or their personal computer.

     Contact: http://www.infinicall.net
     James Trodden
     (323) 653-6010

Web Site: http://www.infinicall.net 

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From: Angela Epstein <angela@epsteinassociatesig.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:20:50 -0400
Subject: Re: InfiniCall Adds Brazil to Its Unlimited VoIP Calling Plan


BroadVoice provides unlimited calls within USA and Canada as well as
22 countries for $19.95 a month.  For $24.95 one can get 35 countries.
Some of those countries are in Asia, Latin America, Europe and the
Middle East.  These prices include basic and advanced features for
free (24).  You can't beat that!

Angela M-Epstein
www.broadvoice.com <http://www.broadvoice.com> 
VoIP number: 860 523 5476
cell number: 917 509 

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From: lurkeroo@yahoo.com (Jeff Sutter)
Subject: Verizon California Terminates ISDN, FX, Other Services
Date: 26 Oct 2004 13:05:51 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


In my Verizon bill, there was a tiny insert, advising me that a number
of services would be "grandfathered", including some I've never heard
of, nor have the people at the Verizon (GTE) office.

They include (abbreviated list -- several custom calling bundles
omitted)

Digital ISDN Single Line Service
Verizon Dial Datalink Service
Foreign Exchange Service - Primary Service Residence

and "InContact".

GTE always made it extremely difficult to obtain residential or
business FX or ISDN services, and their billing of said services was
often fraught with gross errors (some in the customer's favor).  It is
unfortunate that their obfuscation and pricing policies will now
result in justifying the end of useful technologies.

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From: jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol)
Subject: DT003 Questions
Date: 26 Oct 2004 10:12:30 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


All,

I have this data module, I suspect it works with my NEAX 2400.
I am using a PA-4DTLA board in the system and can run a data module
set up for RS232.

However, when I set up the DT-003 data module (V.35) the line on the
board becomes busy and it will not pass data.

Is there any help you can offer?

Thank in Advance.

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: Old Stock Quotation Things?
Date: 26 Oct 2004 11:22:56 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


markrobt@comcast.net (Mark Roberts) wrote 

> They are still in use at railway-station platforms on the Dutch
> national railways.

> I don't believe these were "Solari boards" which functioned on a
> similar principle and were often used on TV game shows to keep score.

"Solari" makes train station announcement boards that are in use in
many U.S. train stations.

Early models used flip over panels where one panel contained a city
name, another panel type of service (ie LOCAL, EXPRESS), etc.  Later
models use tiny panels of single letters so that various messages
could be spelled out without physically changing the board.  Many of
these boards are still in use.

Newer boards use illuminated displays which dispense with moving
parts.  It was reported that in one station which got a new board,
they had to add a clicking sound that the prior mechanical panel made
so people would look up and check the board for changes.

I have found some illuminated panels harder to read than the
mechanical ones.  Sometimes the letters are too thick and at a
distance "bleed" together; and there is also insufficient sharpness or
blackness of the background.  I don't know if Solari makes the
illumninated panels.

It was kind of neat watching the displays change on the mechanical
flipover panels.

These boards are much bigger than TV screens are with larger letters
and more information, but there is usually only one master panel per
station, with connected TV monitors at other places in the station.
There are also minature panels at track gates.

One psgr railroad carrier inherited manual pull down metal signs.  The
gate usher would use a window pole and the sign was hinged.  These
were replaced by TV monitors which didn't show as much information and
were inaccurate.  There are other stations with badly working TV
monitors.  That annoys the heck out of me because TV monitor departure
signage is very old technology and the implementers or operators are
just plain incompetent.  If they can't run their computers, go back to
the hinged signs.

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From: dold@XReXXBaseb.usenet.us.com
Subject: Re: Baseball Broadcast Station?
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:03:53 UTC
Organization: a2i network


jtaylor <jtaylor@hfx.deletethis.andara.com> wrote:

> Yeah, it's probably not absolutely telecom related (they don't have
> the reporters on the 'phone to the station at hockey games anymore,
> either), but my neighbour has a good SW radio and wants to hear the
> Red Sox win.  He lives in Halifax, Nova Scotia, I suggested 1080
> Hartford, but are there any better options?

http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/affiliatebyshow?show=M
BANGOR, ME WZON-AM 620 BANGOR 
ROCKLAND, ME WRKD-AM 1450 PORTLAND AUBURN 

http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/radio/shortwave/
Armed Forces Radio Network.
Keflavik, Iceland Upper Sideband 13,855 KHz and 7,590 KHz 

http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/radio/sports/schedule.asp


Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8-122.5

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From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: 'K' v. 'W' Television Station Callsigns
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:46:56 -0500
Organization: http://newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com


On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:10:20 +0000, bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

> n article <telecom23.513.6@telecom-digest.org>, J Kelly
> <jkelly@newsguy.com> wrote:

>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:18:22 +0000, bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com
>> (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>>> WOI-TV was in operation _long_ before 'Iowa Public Television' came
>>> into existence.  In point of fact, WOI-TV was the _first_ TV station
>>> in the state broadcasting on a regular schedule.

>> WOI was in fact on way before Iowa Public Television.  IPTV began in
>> 1969 when the State Educational Radio and Television Facility Board
>> purchased KDPS-TV (Des Moines Public Schools) Channel 11 in Des Moines
>> and changed the callsign to KDIN-TV.  The network was known as Iowa
>> Educational Broadcasting Network (IEBN).  Seven other stations
>> followed over the next 8 years, and one more was added in 2003 when
>> they acquired channel 36 in Davenport.  In 1976 the name was changed
>> to Iowa Public Broadcasting Network, and was changed to Iowa Public
>> Television in 1982.

> The first expansion was the addition of Channel 12 (KIIN TV), in Iowa
> City.

> By circa 1975, there were KDIN, KIIN, and at least 7 UHF 'repeater'
> stations across the state.  With a decent directional antenna,
> virtually every place in the state was within reception range of one
> of the transmitters.

> The 'repeater' stations were very high-tech (for their day),
> *automated*, systems.  A high-gain channel-11 antenna pointed towards
> Des Moines, coupled to a carrier-operated-relay, that triggered the
> transmitter into operation.  If KDIN was on the air, the repeater
> stations came up, and rebroadcast the signal; when KDIN shut down for
> the night, the repeaters turned themselves off, too.

> Well, *MOST* of the time.  Late one night, in the fall of 1973 (74?),
> I was DX hunting with my little B&W, *rabbit-ears*only* TV, in my
> apartment on the outskirts of downtown Des Moines.  Here is this
> *snowy* picture on channel 11 -- old gangster movie.  Took quite a
> while for a call-sign to come by WQXI. Just for grins, I _called_ the
> station, to let them know they had a viewer "way out in Iowa".  This
> got to be a _very_ strange phone converation.  The station
> _chief_engineer_ was working the night shift that night, and actually
> answered the phone, =himself=.  He got *real* upset, and asked me
> _exactly_ what I'm seeing, what kind of a monstrosity I'm using for an
> antenna, *exactly* where I am, etc., etc.  The more detail I provided
> in answer to the questions, the _more_upset_ he was getting.

> Finally, we get through the panic, and he explains -- several weeks
> previously, 'skip' conditions had been 'just right', and their signal
> had been hitting Iowa with enough signal strength to *trigger* some of
> the IEBN repeaters.  Most notably the one in northwest Iowa, from
> who's 'viewpoint', Atlanta was nearly in a straight line with Des
> Moines.

> This led to an incredible stack of paperwork, to mollify the FCC.
> Here was 'retransmission'/'rebroadcasting' of a commercial TV station,
> *without* the permission/consent of the originating station.  Here was
> _commercial_ content on an 'educational TV' repeater channel.  etc.,
> etc., ad nauseum.  Oh yeah, those remote 'repeater' stations were
> automated enough that they did _not_ have an 'engineer on duty' at the
> transmitter site.  The 'local' engineer had remote monitoring gear at
> his house, or wherever.  Note: this was *monitoring* capability,
> _only_.  He did *not* have anything like a 'kill switch' for the
> transmitter -- could *not* shut it down, except from on-site
> brute-force controls, if the master station (or what the hardware
> *thought* was the master station :) was 'on the air'.

> As a result of _that_ 'design stupidity', the "problem" recurred
> _again_ the next night.  And several following nights.  Which made the
> paperwork swamp *MUCH* worse.  Now it wasn't a _single_ 'inadvertent'
> error, but a repeated pattern of "illegal" behavior.

> He had just finished up (i.e., a day or two previously) _his_ stack of
> paper- work related to the problem,
> *believing*it*to*be*finally*resolved*, and was relaxing as things got
> back to normal -- and this phone call comes in from IOWA, where
> somebody is seeing his station, *AGAIN*(!!)  In that light, the
> 'upset' was quite understandable -- and he _did_ relax considerably
> when it was established that I _was_ watching on channel *11* -- not
> on some repeater output frequency.

The "repeater sites" (and they were NOT repeaters but full tv
transmitters) were in fact manned whenever they were on the air.  An
engineer turned them on and off at the start and end of the day.

At no time was there ever any carrier operated relays that turned on
the stations.  They were turned on manually from the transmitter site
itself by a station engineer.

I've talked to engineers that have been working at IPTV since the KDPS
days and nobody remembers anything about the above story.  If there
was a whole mess of FCC paperwork generated over it, someone there
would remember it.

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From: markrobt@comcast.net (Mark Roberts)
Subject: Re: 'K' v. 'W' Television Station Callsigns
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:31:31 -0000
Organization: 1.94 meters


Wesrock@aol.com <Wesrock@aol.com> had written:

> markrobt@comcast.net (Mark Roberts) writes:

>> It's not unique. KOMU-TV was and is still owned by the University of
>> Missouri, and is the NBC affiliate for Columbia and Jefferson City.
>> From 1953 until 1956, it was the only station in the area and carried
>> all three networks. From 1956 until 1971, it was also the secondary
>> ABC affiliate for the market.

>> Its newsroom is staffed by School of Journalism instructors and
>> students, who report and produce the station's newscasts.

> The University of Missouri also publishes a commercial daily newspaper
> in competition with a locally-owned one, with not only its newsroom
> but its advertising department staffed by School of Journalism
> instructors and students.

> Certainly real world training for both news editors and reporters and
> also advertising salesmen and saleswomen.

> The privately-owned newspaper feels strongly it is unfair competition.

As last I recall, the Missourian's (J-school) circulation was about
25% of the privately-owned Tribune's, even though the Missourian is
the morning paper and the Tribune the afternoon paper (plus Saturday
and Sunday mornings). The family that owns the Tribune has quietly
complained about the situation but does not seem to have suffered
terribly. In fact, it benefits from being able to hire recent grads at
newbie wage rates.

All the sales staff for KOMU-TV are full-time employees of the
station.

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