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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:05:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 489

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Robot Dialer Question (Scott Peterson)
    Verizon Planning 3-Million FTTH (Fiber) Connections (The Old Bear)
    Linux 9.0 and a Small Toshiba Laptop (Patrick Townson)
    Re: Why There's no DNS or Comparable Distributed Naming (A Burbaickij)
    Re: Two Way Radio Service (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Deutsche Telekom AG Executives Reported To FBI (Freespeechstore)
    Re: Cellphone Industry Turns to Unmined Territory: Seniors (D Clayton)
    Last (Sad, Very Bitter) Laugh! A  Nice Place to Work! (Patrick Townson)

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From: Scott Peterson <scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com>
Subject: Robot Dialer Question
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:02:43 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: scottp4.removethistoreply@mindspring.com


I'm in So. Calif. and the politicians are out in force.  I must have
had 10 recorded politicial solicitations in the last couple of days. 

They're all the kind that start talking and lock your phone line until
the recording is done. 

I needed to make a phone call but the thing locked my line up for
about 5 minutes. 

I thought these things were illegal.  Is there any way or any one to
complain to about these calls?  

                  
Scott Peterson

A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting
air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians.
-Frank Zappa

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Are you certain that if you hang up the
phone and wait 20-30 seconds the line won't release on its own?  Even
that is irritating, but I can see why if you attempted to hang up and
then (after 5-10 seconds) lifted the receiver again, the party would 
still be there. On lines which have three way calling or call waiting
it takes a few seconds for the system to decide you intend to
disconnect and are not just flashing the hook to (make or receive)
another call. Under the old (crossbar) system, we could hang up
one phone, (and admittedly) rush to another phone to pick it up to
continue the conversation **provided the other end called us**. One 
hassle under the 'new' (ESS) style system is so much depends on the 
use of the switchhook, and a few seconds have to be allowed for the
hook to stay permanently (up or down) to have the action take place.

It is irritating, but I think if you give the other end 20-30 seconds
of 'talking' to a dead connection you can get your line back.   PAT]

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:32:17 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Verizon Planning 3-Million FTTH Cnnections (Fiber to the Home)


As summarized in NewsScan for October 11, 2004:

    PHONE COMPANIES SPINNING COPPER INTO FIBER

    In a pitch to spruce up its image and retain customers, Verizon
    Communications and other Bell companies are going door-to-door,
    offering to replace customers' old copper wire with high-speed
    fiber optic lines capable of handling not only phone calls but
    TV programming and Internet connections at six times the speed
    of cable lines.

    The move signals the Bells' determination to maintain their grip
    on consumers' communications channels, despite cable companies'
    aggressive move into Internet phone service.

    It's a risky strategy -- the installations are being provided
    for free, despite the fact that they can cost the telcos up to
    $1,000 per house in equipment and labor.  Nevertheless, Verizon
    says it plans to spend $3 billion to offer fiber service to
    three million homes nationwide by the end of 2005.

    source: New York Times (11 Oct 2004)
            <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/technology/11fiber.html>

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From: Patrick Townson <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Linux 9.0 and Older Toshiba Laptop
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:00:00 EDT


I've a Toshiba Satellite 220 CDS laptop here, from 1995-96. On booting
it, I am told it has 32,512 KB memory. The hard drive is 1.34 GB and
it runs at 123 megs. It has a single internal slot on the side which
can be used either for a floppy drive or a CD Rom. I have both of them.
It has a USB connection, places for a parallel port and a serial port.
It has two slots for PCMCIA cards. My question is, if I install Linux
9.0 on this machine, will it work, and how well?  I know it *barely*
handles Win 98. It was originally an OEM Win 95 machine. Thanks for
your comments.

PAT

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From: ariel.burbaickij@gmail.com (Ariel Burbaickij)
Subject: Re: Why There's no DNS or Comparable Distributed Naming Service
Date: 14 Oct 2004 01:38:00 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.485.6@telecom-digest.org>:

> In article <telecom23.483.12@telecom-digest.org>, William Warren
> <william_warren_nonoise@comcast.net> wrote:

>> On 11 Oct 2004 02:19:00 -0700, Ariel Burbaickij  
>> <ariel.burbaickij@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Could someone explain to me why there is no such service as DNS/whois
>>>>> towards it in SS7 network? After all, we have exactly same concerns
>>>>> here (distributed and independent administration of different subsets
>>>>> of address space, mapping must be often provided between pointcodes
>>>>> (numerical address) and its current owner), so why it was decided not
>>>>> to do it this way but instead some arcane lists are distributed by ITU
>>>>> exclusively?

>> [large snip]

>> I don't think it's needed in the way the Internet uses the term: DNS
>> is essential for the internet because the number of separate nodes has
>> grown too large for any one node to handle, so there has to be a
>> lookup mechanism to spread the workload, and that's DNS.

>> Central Offices don't need a dns-like service because:

>> A. STPs already perform an equivalent function: there
>>    are few enough exchanges that each one can keep a
>>    basic routing table in memory and pass off any
>>    unknown npa/nxx codes to an STP for resolution. The
>>    STP routes the original SS7 traffic on behalf of the
>>    CO, unlike a DNS which returns a routable (IP) address
>>    to the requesting node.

> This is not really correct.  I think you're conflating the functions
> of an STP and a tandem or gateway switch (which is an SSP, in the
> usual terminology, but which is not an EO ("End Office"); people often
> assume the terms are equivalent but they are not.

> because STPs do, in fact, include a somewhat DNS-like address lookup
> facility, Global Title Translation ("GTT").  It is correct to think of
> GTT as the analogue to DNS in the SS7 protocl suite.

> What GTT does is take a name for a service (a token that is of a type
> *other than* 'SS7 network address and subsystem number') and return a
> network address (which may be an alias for many hosts in the network,
> just as a DNS query may return multiple addresses or a single anycast
> address; SS7 had anycast long before IP did).

> There is no particular reason one could not implement GTT with DNS as
> a backend.  (In fact, I designed a product that did this and have some
> related claims in one of my patents).  In practice, GTT data is
> usually fully resident in each STP, downloaded there periodically by
> various centralized provisioning systems.

> But GTT is only used for end-to-end services; more precisely, it is
> only generally used for TCAP "queries" (which can also be thought
> about as remote procedure call over SS7).  LNP is one such service,
> which is one reason people sometimes confuse GTT, which translates
> from data that is of one type (e.g. telephone number, trigger type,
> and some digits) to another (a destination point code and subsystem
> number) as DNS does, with LNP, which just uses remote procedure call
> to translate from one telephone number to another (approximately.  I
> am well aware that it does not work quite this way!)

> ISUP call signaling does *not* use GTT.  Instead, switches have static
> call-routing tables with, usually, a digit-at-a-time resolution
> starting at the left hand side of the called number.  Just like in IP
> networks, there is sometimes a "default route" -- if there is not, the
> calling party switch itself will play you an error message.  The
> output of these routing tables is a destination point code (an SS7
> address) and a trunk group number.  The ISUP messages will go via an
> STP (usually, in the absence of F-links) and may make several network
> hops but the actual voice path *must* be direct.

> This is a key point.  STPs do not "route" voice; and they don't do
> translation on ISUP messages because the calling switch essentially
> can't require it -- it _has to_ know who the next hop in the voice
> path is, because it has to know which of its trunk groups is hooked up
> to it!

> (Things can work a little differently in the presence of internetwork
> gateways, but that is a very special case).

> Calls may hop across many switches, end-office to tandem to tandem to
> IXC gateway to IXC gateway to tandem to end-office, but at every hop
> the next neighbor is known -- has to be, or you couldn't hook up the
> voice path right.  Again, LNP complicates things (the "translate this
> number to another number" RPC can be invoked *anywhere* in the call
> path) but it is still not right to think that normal call signalling
> involves anything like DNS, nor, really, that that would be very
> useful for that purpose, at least not in my opinion.

> Thor Lancelot Simon	                             tls@rek.tjls.com

> But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of
> common objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp!
> You towel!  You plate!" and so on.  --Sigmund Freud

Well, I also do not think LNP is as close as it can be to DNS and
generally I keep idea of it pretty much strange. I would consider
lifetime personal vanity numbers as: 

1) far better alternative than LNP

2) It comes really far closer to DNS than LNP because it indeed
involves GTT (again how this personal lifetime vanity numbers are
normally implemented is pretty strange, you have to update your real
number call is routed to all the time you changes your location,
normally I would expect the possibility to define the scheme how some
predifined set of numbers should be dialed with different preferences
and, indeed, some new implementations do just exactly this) 

3) I was not talking about terminal equipment but about pointcodes.
The closest form of whois service here is operational bulletin #797
from ITU-T. It costs 20 Swiss franks and actually does not prevent
anyone from lokking in this information. So I do not understand why it
is not possible to build normal whois service based on its data.

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Two Way Radio Service
Date: 14 Oct 2004 10:46:13 -0400
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Geller <munited@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys ...

> Is there any two-way radio service provider.?

Sure.  I got a box of Motorola HT220s in the garage.  I'll provide as many
as you want.

> Can any one give me the list of service providers.??

Look in your local yellow pages under "land-mobile" or "radio, two-way"

scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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From: freespeechstore@aol.com (Freespeechstore)
Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom AG Executives Reported To FBI For Abuse!
Date: 14 Oct 2004 08:22:02 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<telecom23.487.8@telecom-digest.org>:

> Freespeechstore <freespeechstore@aol.com> wrote:

>> FSS does not spam!  Anybody can make a report to antispammers ... a
>> well documented fact.  The FSS email system works similar to the
>> media, i.e. usatoday.com, but FSS has more controls, as well as
>> instant and permanent opt-out! The site is not about negatively, but
>> the speeches about such do get the most responses.  Posting is FREE.
>> Come on in and say something positive!

> I think a quick search of news.admin.net-abuse.sightings will prove
> this incorrect.
 
> scott

> "C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Old news, Scott ...

I finally realized (almost a year ago) that the members of NANAE were
"FANATICS" and subsequently have been monitoring (not responding in
their forums to libelous statements, defamation of character,
restraint of trade, etc,) those who abused us for litigation purposes.
We have two years to file on each count!  Time will tell who wins.
This is far from over!  And, there it is Scooter! Hide and watch!
http://freespeechstore.com/

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&scoring=d&q=+news.admin.net-abuse.sightings+freespeechstore&btnG=Search

http://freespeechstore.com/Qresults.asp?Search_Keyword=nanae&btnSearch2=Find+Speech

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This thread has come to an end with my
thanks for everyone's participation (endurance?)  PAT]

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From: David Clayton <dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com>
Subject: Re: Cellphone Industry Turns to Unmined Territory: Seniors
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:34:31 +1000


dog4dogg@yahoo.com (kansasman) contributed the following:

> Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<telecom23.483.1@telecom-digest.org>:

>> From the New York Times --
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/technology/11cell.html?oref=login

>> By MATT RICHTEL

>> Having equipped most adults and half of all teenagers with cellphones,
>> the mobile phone industry is turning its attention to the last
>> untapped demographic -- people over 65.

>> But its dreams of collecting monthly subscription fees from
>> grandparents talking to their grandchildren, retirees calling friends
>> from their recreational vehicles or patients checking in with their
>> doctors may exact a hefty and unexpected price. The mobile phone
>> industry has roused the interest of AARP, the powerful lobby and
>> advocacy group for older Americans.

>> And AARP is not happy with what it has heard from its members:
>> complaints about incomprehensible service contracts, confusing bills
>> and dead zones that are not clearly marked on coverage maps. They are
>> the same concerns that have been expressed for years by other consumer
>> advocates, who now have a new champion in the 35-million-member AARP.

 ......

And here's me thinking that the major obstacle for just about anyone
over 45 for using mobile phones more often is the bloody user
interface!

Just ask an "older" person how easy it is to use a tiny keyboard and
read a display full of data, both obviously designed for sharp-eyed
teenagers.

Making phones smaller and smaller is great for carrying them about,
but there comes a point when their "usability" for a fair segment of
the population is compromised.


Regards,

David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@XYZ.myrealbox.com
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
(Remove the "XYZ." to reply)

Dilbert's words of wisdom #18: Never argue with an idiot. They drag
you down to their level then beat you with experience.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What you say is true if you intend to
use the phone for more than making telephone calls. For its original
and intended purpose -- making phone calls -- small is okay with me,
and I am an older person. And although I really love typing with my
thumb (three taps to make a letter /c/ for example), I strongly dislike
writing lengthy editor's notes or otherwise writing email, so I 
very seldom use that wonderful feature of my cell phone, nor the use
of the cell phone to read web pages.  PAT] 

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From: Patrick Townson <ptownson@cableone.net>
Subject: Last, Very Bitter, Sad Laugh! A Nice Place to Work!
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:13:29 -0500


 From: Ken Bryant
 To: kpbryant
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:16 AM
 Subject: Nice Place to Work!

Audit: TSA Spent Lavishly on Awards Ceremony
Thursday, October 14, 2004

WASHINGTON - The government agency in charge of airport security spent
nearly a half-million dollars on an awards ceremony at a lavish hotel,
including $81,000 for plaques and $500 for cheese displays, according to
an internal report obtained by The Associated Press.

Awards were presented to 543 Transportation Security Administration
employees and 30 organizations, including a "lifetime achievement award"
for one worker with the 2-year-old agency. Almost $200,000 was spent on 
travel and lodging for attendees.

The investigation by the Homeland Security Department's inspector
general, Clark Kent Ervin, also found the TSA gave its senior executives
bonuses averaging $16,000, higher than at any other federal government
agency, and failed to provide adequate justification in more than a
third of the 88 cases examined.

The report said lower-level employees were shortchanged, with a far
lower percentage receiving bonuses.

"A substantial inequity exists in TSA's performance recognition program
between executive and non-executive employees," the report said.

TSA spokeswoman Amy von Walter said the agency believes the bonuses and
party were justified "given the hours and productivity of the work force
during this critical period."

This year, said von Walter, the TSA will conduct awards ceremonies at
individual airports, as well as a much smaller and less expensive event
at its headquarters in November.

Congressional skeptics have criticized the TSA's hiring and spending
practices during its short existence. Republicans say the agency has
grown far larger than they envisioned when it was created following the
Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

+++What a shock!+++

Ervin also is investigating why the agency's private recruiters worked
out of lush resort hotels with golf courses, pools and spas.

Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., said that he had not seen the full report but
that it indicated "a colossal waste of money."

"There's something terribly wrong with that agency," Dorgan said. "Of
all the agencies, that's the one that's supposed to be working full-time
against terrorist attacks."

The awards banquet, which cost $461,745, was held at the Grand Hyatt,
which bills itself as "one of the most magnificent" hotels in the
nation's capital. According to the report, the agency chose that site
because it was the only hotel available on Nov. 19, 2003, the agency's
second anniversary. It also was one of the few places that could
accommodate about 600 honorees and as many guests.

While the inspector general noted the agency sought competitive bids for
the party planner and chose the company with the lowest estimate, it
found the "costs of the ceremony and reception were higher than
necessary."

The event planning company, MarCom Group Inc. (search) of Fairfax, Va.,
was paid $85,552 for its work and given an additional $81,767 for
plaques, $5,196 for official photographs, $1,486 for three balloon 
arches and $1,509 for signs.

The reception included finger food, coffee and cake that averaged $33
per person. Seven cakes cost a total of $1,850; three cheese displays,
$1,500.

In a written response, the TSA said the costs "were neither
extraordinary nor incurred without careful consideration of the amount,
the reasonableness of the cost, and value the activities would have to =
the employees."

The inspector general also expressed concern that the TSA was more
generous than most other federal agencies in awarding bonuses to
executives. Federal agencies on average gave cash awards to 49 percent
of their executives in 2002, while 76 percent of TSA executives received
them in 2003.

The inspector general reviewed 88 employees' files and found that 38
percent "had no individual recommendation and justification for the
performance award."

"The legitimacy of such large awards is called into question by the lack
of an appropriate selection process and the reliance on boilerplate
justifications that could be applicable to anyone," the report said.

The report also noted that fewer than 3 percent of nonexecutive
employees received bonuses in 2003.

In its response, the TSA said that executives who got a bonus didn't get
a pay increase and weren't eligible for a presidential awards program
that can amount to as much as 35 percent of their base pay. The agency
agreed, however, that more could be done to equalize treatment of top
executives and lower-level employees.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Kenneth P. Bryant is a cousin of mine.
Isn't it good to know that we take such excellent care of those brave,
courageous public servants who put their lives on the line for us each
day in these times of 'terrorist' activities by talking sassy and rude
and arrogrant and demanding to those us waiting in a line with a
hundred people ahead of us; demanding to inspect every little piece of
metal in our pockets or in our legs or heads. If Bush wants to cut
back on 'terrorism', an army of new public servants working in
airports is not going to do any good; maybe if he issued a **very
strong, very meaningful apology** to the people of the middle east
whose lives he has made such hell for the past few years it would be a
good way to start. But what the heck; a man who thinks many of his own
citizens are second class or less sure isn't going to be apologizing
to folks in far away middle east countries anytime soon. Certainly not
when there are hogs to be slopped on his own payroll, like TSA.  PAT]

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