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TELECOM Digest     Fri, 1 Oct 2004 01:48:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 460

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Santa Cruz Pirate Radio Station Unplugged (Robert Weller)
    Re: Wrong Address For 911 Caller a Tragic Ordeal (Rick Merrill)
    Re: Wrong Address For 911 Caller a Tragic Ordeal (Tony P.)
    Re: BART Cop Orders Radio Turned Off to Protect Trains (Gordon Hlavenka)
    Re: BART Cop Orders Radio Turned Off to Protect Trains (jdj)
    WWW Founder, was: WWW is Ten Years Old in 2004 (Danny Burstein)
    Re: Can Anyone Recommend a "Pay as You Go" Economy Cell Phone? (jdj)
    Re: Paper Tape Technology Was: What is the Name of #? (Gene Berkowitz)
    Re: Paper Tape Technology Was: What is the Name of #? (AES/newspost)
    Re: Paper Tape Technology  was Re: What is Name of #? (Bob Goudreau)
    Re: Fireman Claims Radio Failure Nearly Killed Him (Steve Sobol)
    Re: What is the Name of #?  How did # Get its Name? (Rich Greenberg)
    Re: AT&T Lowers Price of its Residential VoIP Service (Rick Merrill)
    Re: Net Firms: Don't Tax Internet Calling (Rick Merrill)
    Re: Our Inexpensive Directory Assistance Program (Fred Atkinson)

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From: Robert Weller <rweller@h-e.com>
Subject: Santa Cruz Pirate Radio Station Unplugged
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:32:06 -0700


http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/September/30/local/=20
stories/01local.htm

By CATHY REDFERN
Sentinel staff writer

SANTA CRUZ Federal agents armed with weapons and a court order seized
the broadcasting equipment of Free Radio Santa Cruz on Wednesday
morning, silencing the pirate radio station.

Residents of two buildings on the property said agents knocked on the
door with guns drawn about 8:45 a.m. The tense operation concluded
about five hours later, with the towing of three of the agents
disabled vehicles.

[submitted by Bob Weller]

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From: Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comTHROW.net>
Subject: Re: Wrong Address For 911 Caller a Tragic Ordeal
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:02:42 GMT


Jack Decker wrote:

> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2435843,00.html

> By John Ingold 
> Denver Post Staff Writer

> When her infant son started having trouble breathing, a worried Krista
> Staats rushed to the phone and called 911.

> A dispatch center in Castle Rock, nearly 40 miles from her Adams
> County house, took the call, thinking she was calling from a business
> in Parker.

AS VoIP begins to spread (as did Cellphones) we must all re-learn how
to give 911 our location AND TOWN.  In our town we had a house burn
down because they called frantically from a cell phone and it took 15
minutes to find out where they were!

My Dlink documentation specificly states that 911 will not work the
same as E911.  The town dispatcher says that the number coming in is
something [screwy] and will not operate their computer: in other words
they have to ASK you where you are!

How long will it take for that to be fixed?

- RM

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Wrong Address For 911 Caller a Tragic Ordeal
Organization: ATCC
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 00:22:54 GMT


In article <telecom23.458.4@telecom-digest.org>, Jack Decker <VOIP News> 
says:

> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2435843,00.html

> By John Ingold 
> Denver Post Staff Writer

> When her infant son started having trouble breathing, a worried Krista
> Staats rushed to the phone and called 911.

> A dispatch center in Castle Rock, nearly 40 miles from her Adams
> County house, took the call, thinking she was calling from a business
> in Parker. As Staats bounced from dispatch center to dispatch center,
> trying to find the right people to help her, her baby boy's condition
> grew worse, and Staats grew more frantic.

> Finally, 5-month-old Christopher Vasquez stopped breathing, and Staats
> let out a piercing, terror-filled scream. He died moments later,
> shortly after an ambulance was dispatched -- a little over four minutes
> after Staats made her call.

> Now, Staats has sued her telephone company, Comcast, and two other
> companies, claiming that because they put the wrong address for her
> phone number into the 911 system, her son died that day in the spring
> of 2003.

> "Because Comcast had my address wrong in the system, I had to watch my
> son die," she said Wednesday at a news conference.

> Staats may not be alone in having the 911 problem.

> Full story at:
> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2435843,00.html
> Additional commentary at BroadbandReports.com:
> http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/54996

This is going to force VoIP carriers to figure out how to deal with 911 
routing in a big old hurry. 

For the life of me, I cannot understand why they just can't use GPS and 
then do a database dip to route to the correct entity. 

If anything the U.S. is getting more tightly mapped via The Help America 
Vote Act (Hereby referred to as HAVA). The state of Rhode Island 
recently got close to $10 million to implement a Central Voter 
Registration System (CVRS) and that requires us to map EVERY address 
down to the house number. 

We're also going to be coordinating with the state DMV though they're 
still using COBOL flat files. Eeeew. 

So I can't see why we wouldn't share it with the E-911 folks around
here.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But if this incident happened in the
'spring of 2003' as stated, we are now in the fall of 2004, a year and
a half later. Who do *you* see rushing around to fix things, in a big
hurry? And how do you know, based on the newspaper report, that the
lady attempted to use a VOIP phone, or that the fault is anything to
do with VOIP?  And *if* it was a VOIP phone, those very seldom -- if
ever -- go into the 911 system as such, usually winding up ringing on
a seven digit administrative number instead. So why wouldn't the call
(if it was a VOIP phone) have rung into one or more dispatcher's
positions in the local emergency call answering facility?  

Because here in Independence, Kansas we are more rural and backward in
our way of doing things, our dispatchers have a wall phone which is
answered 24/7 and known to be for 'alternate answering'; a '911-like'
phone but without 911-abilities in all ways. When Vonage, a major
player in VOIP service recieves a request from a customer to turn on
911 service -- your choice if you want to have it or not -- Vonage
sends email to the PSAP, and paper mail, advising them of this. When
the PSAP acknowledges the email and adjusts the database accordingly,
then Vonage tells the customer it is okay to begin using it. Here in
Independence,  the Police Department, whose dispatcher also responds
to calls on the Sheriff's emergency line, also sends paper mail to
the address **exactly as received from the VOIP carrier** to confirm
it is a 'good address' in an envelope marked 'deliver to addressee
only' asking the person to confirm their use of VOIP phone service
and explaining how it is different than 'normal 911 service'. The
police department asks the subscriber to respond to the mailing, and
that response confirms what the VOIP carrier had originally said. 

Although as I said earlier, we are a small, rural community considered
backward and I suspect ignorant in many areas, our dispatchers have
been well trained, and our telephones are answered 24 hours per day,
seven days per week, unlike New York City where we were advised here
in a message a couple months ago, the police quit answering the 
phones at 10 PM, and rather than responding effeciently and courteously
to every call are likely as not to put the caller through the wringer
if he did not choose to place his call on the phone line the police
happened to consider more appropriate. Why is that so difficult for
other police/sheriff/emergency answering points to handle?  Why is
the VOIP carrier expected to do all the required contortions?   And
I am not yet convinced the phone company -- whichever one it was --
had anything to do with this fiasco. Why can't all police agencies
have a phone line (which makes one or more appearances around the room
as needed) to deal with the exceptions like we do here in Independence?  
PAT]

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:39:56 -0500
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelex.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelex.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: BART Cop Orders Radio Turned Off to Protect Trains


Lisa Hancock wrote:

> Concerning the above problem, I'm surprised that a broken crystal (do
> crystals even break that easily?) would just so happen to send out a
> different valid signal.

I don't know the details of how the BART system works, but if there's
an analog correspondence between the frequency coming out of a divider
and the train speed, then a change in the frequency going into the
divider (e.g. from a failed crystal oscillator) would produce a
different frequency.  Depending on how the frequency is scaled, the
crystal could be far off frequency yet the new frequency could still
be within the range of valid values.  Just wrong.

I'm just handwaving here, but suppose there's an 8051 microcontroller
running on an 8MHz clock.  It's running something similar to this air
code:

output_speed:
	MOV A,#speed
	CPL speed_bit
timing:
	INC A
	JNZ A,timing

	CPL speed_bit
	JMP output_speed

Now, the higher the value passed in with #timing, the faster speed_bit
oscillates.  If speed_bit has been defined as an output pin, you can
feed it to a transmitter and send it to the train.  The train would
have a receiver hooked to an F-V converter attached to the motor speed
controller that takes a voltage for input.

If your 8MHz crystal begins oscillating at 24MHz for some reason
(crystal fails, loading cap fails, onchip 8051 driver fails, etc.)
then the code continues to run without error but speed_bit toggles at
3X the desired rate.  So, passing the appropriate number in #speed to
command 24mph would run the train at 72mph ...

Not saying this is how they do it, but it's one way.  I'd rather send
coded digital data over the air, so I could error-check it before
using it.  But the whole F-V scenario might still be used onboard the
train with a PCM feeding into it; the resulting voltage then sent to a
COTS motor speed controller.

> Note that Touch Tone signals use two-tones, not just one.

Except that most touchtone _generators_ operate off of a single
oscillator.  So, if that oscillator goes bad both tones slide.  I
worked on a telephone system that used a TP5088 hardwired to generate
"*", but fed a 2MHz input instead of 3.58, to generate a dialtone.
The result was pretty close to The Real Thing.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: jdj <jdj@now.here>
Subject: Re: BART Cop Orders Radio Turned Off to Protect Trains
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:03:51 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:35:14 -0700, Jeff nor Lisa wrote:

> George Mitchell <george@coventry.m5p.com> wrote

>> Lisa Hancock wrote:

>>> As to the claim BART radios were "special" years ago, there is
>>> definitely truth to that.  BART's original train control system had
>>> many problems, including a train that ignored a stop signal and flew
>>> off at a terminal into the parking lot.

> Let me clarify the above paragraph.  By 'radios' I meant the train
> control system, not the audio communication system.

Strictly speaking, BART did not use radios to control trains. Only in an
extremely broad sense would the system be considered "radio". The little
white fins atop the cars were/are antennae for voice comms.

> BART uses automated train operation and protection.  The speed and
> stopping of trains is controlled by signals sent to the train from
> wayside transmitters.  A second and critical component of this system is
> train protection so that one train does not collide with another. BART
> was an early modern automated train system.

> The rest of my paragraph is correct.  The original BART system had
> pushed the state of the art and had many problems in practice.

> [GW continues]

>> This had nothing to do with radios.  The lead car of the train was
>> receiving a 27-mph signal from the track.  The system for trans-
>> mitting the speed command from the lead car to the rest of the train
>> was to transmit one of a specified set of audio frequency signals over
>> a wire bus.  However, the crystal in the 27-mph oscillator was cracked
>> and oscillated at the 72-mph frequency, causing the train to speed up
>> instead of slow down.  The operator was not able to apply the brakes in
>> time to stop before reaching the end of the track.

> http://www.wws.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/byteserv.prl/~ota/disk3/1976/7614/761406.PD

That link is invalid. Returns 404.

> My point is that BART depends on wireless communications to transmit
> speed commands from wayside onto the train AND that BART had many
> problems with this system.  The above example is just one of many
> problems they had to deal with.

Strictly speaking, it is wireless. The car's shielded pickup is very
close to a device alongside or just above the third rail. This is the
data communications link. I know that the signalling does not occur
above 1MHz -- I did check! (Very surreptitiously.)

The system is similar in function to a tape recorder: In a tape
recorder the tape head detects changes in magnetic flux from the
moving tape and is designed not to pick up stray magnetic fields. The
tape head also produces a magnetic flux which is concentrated on the
tape to record sounds.

The BART control system is designed the same way, except the "tape"
carries a magnetic signal that changes continuously. The train pickup
is designed to only pick up signals from the "tape" and to "record"
signals to the "tape".

There is a detailed layman's description of the magnetic pickup in a
periodical somewhere. It was published sometime around 1975. Also
published were details of the control system, complete with lots of
pictures of the IBM mainframe and ops center. If I recall correctly,
there was also extensive coverage of BART in IBM's internal
publication, "Think".

> Concerning the above problem, I'm surprised that a broken crystal (do
> crystals even break that easily?) would just so happen to send out a
> different valid signal.  In Bell System signalling, they were very
> careful to avoid harmonic frequencies or any frequencies as well as
> pulse coding that could be misinterpreted as something else.  Note that
> Touch Tone signals use two-tones, not just one.  This kind of safety
> design goes back to the 1940s.  Likewise, in more traditional railroad
> signalling, the pulse codes were carefully designed and implemented with
> very rugged gear to avoid misinterpretation.  If a failure occurs, it is
> interpreted as a stop signal.  (BART chose to not use traditional
> railroad technology.)

Yes, crystals do break while in use. They are not perfect. When they
break, they can and do produce output at higher frequencies. A
crystal's resonant frequency is a function of it's dimensions as well
as composition.

> Anyway, a stray or errant signal could and did cause a BART train wreck.
> Naturally BART mgmt would be interested in preventing such problems.
> On other automated rail systems, a positive read of a specific signal is
> required to proceed, the failure to receive that signal stops the train.

No, a stray signal did not cause the crash. A faulty signalling
device, as has been described, caused it.

The train was commanded to accelerate. Even emergency braking could not
have stopped the train before the crash. There was not enough track left.
This was pointed out in the report and in the media. The end of track is
only about a car-length or two past the end of the platform.

> As someone else explained, superhet radio receivers retransmit a signal,
> and this signal happens to interfere with navigation.  Well, a radio
> that is actually transmitting could send out similar signal
> interference.

The problem with FM band superhets is that the local oscillator
frequency is traditionally set above the band of interest, in this
case, within the air-nav band of 108 to 118MHz. The interference is of
such a nature that it would be discernible as interference and not a
navigation signal. I suspect that modern airnav systems would not be
fooled.

> As to the current issue, walkie-talkies are transmitters, and as such,
> send out signals obviously stronger than within a receiver's superhet
> circuits.  It is possible that such signals either directly or through
> distortion/harmonics could interfere with normal train control.  While a
> wreck is unlikely, it could force a train into an emergency stop between
> stations, which is obviously undesirable.

Not possible when the control signal band is below the bands in use by
radios, as in the case of BART. Harmonics do not appear below the
fundamental.

> Until such time that modern walkie-talkies would be tested to ensure
> their signals do not and cannot interfere with train control and train
> protection, they should not be permitted to be used on BART.

Then all transmitters should have been banned on those grounds. Yet
cell phones were allowed, as well as untested radios from other
agencies. And again, nearby transmitters, including high-powered
transmitters, adjacent to the track, caused no problems.

It is not a current issue as there is no longer a policy banning
transmitters in stations or on trains.

There is no evidence that any radios interfere with train operation.

The longer this goes on, the more I remember from my "VIP" tour of BART
all those years ago ...

------------------------------

From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: WWW Founder, was: WWW is Ten Years Old in 2004
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:08:06 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


TELECOM Digest Editor queried in response to
<telecom23.459.1@telecom-digest.org> kpospisek@yahoo.com (Karl
Pospisek):

> Please remind me who I am (trying to) thinking about.  I do know he
> never took a nickle for his work in developing the Web, which I guess
> would be the 'killer application' of all time.   PAT]

Tim Berners-Lee. 

(not to be confused with Bernard Lee, aka M, James Bond's boss)

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ah yes, Tim Berners-Lee, thank you for
jogging my memory. I wish Mr. Berners-Lee would come around here now
and then, I  would love to give him a piece of my mind, as disease-
riddled and useless as it has become since the aneurysm. I would
ask him why in the hell he did not slap a copyright on everything to
do with the web back in 1994 so as to prevent so much of the foolish
nonsense and charlatanism we see all over the place now days. Ah well,
too late now to worry about it I guess.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: jdj <jdj@now.here>
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Recommend a "Pay as You Go" Economy Cell Phone?
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:15:36 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:32:48 -0700, ava cohen wrote:

> I am thinking of getting my 12 year old daughter a pay as you go cell
> phone in California.

It is likely going to cost you far more than a contract plan. 

Kids and phones are like kids and candy. Both are gone as fast they
can consume them.

I'll bet you will soon tire of buying more time every day.

> Can anyone recommend a "pay as you go" economy cell phone? (like
> prepaid cards?)

I suggest looking at each company's offering. Target has brochures on
many of the available services.

Seems almost every single company has a prepaid plan, now.

> I do not want to subscribe to any plans.

For which you will pay dearly. 

Not that you wouldn't under a contract ...

> Which company? 

They're all pretty bad.

> How much does the phone  and the calls cost?

Between $40 and $200, depending on company and model of phone. They do
not allow you to use a phone you already have -- unless you bought it
specifically for their prepaid service.

Call costs vary between companies.

> Where is the best place to buy it from?

Safeway's, Target, KMart, Socket Circus -- I mean Circuit City -- :) etc.
They're spreading like a plague. :)

> Any help would be highly appreciated.

> Thanks.

> Ava

------------------------------

From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Paper Tape Technology Was: What is the Name of #? 
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:46:33 -0400


In article <telecom23.457.11@telecom-digest.org>, johnl@iecc.com says...

>> As an undergrad at Harvard, Bill Gates wrote software to read and
>> count these punched holes (a task complicated slightly by the fact
>> that they are randomly spaced along the paper tape) and set up a
>> company ("Traf-O-Data", I believe) located in his dorm room which
>> received these tapes, read them using bootlegged time on Aiken's early
>> Harvard University computer facility, and sent back printed reports to
>> traffic engineers all over the company.

> Gates and Allen did run Traf-O-Data, but the rest is wrong.  Since
> Bill is 48 years old, when would he have been at Harvard?  When was
> Aiken doing the Mark I through Mark IV?  Sheesh.

Gates was Class of '77 at Harvard.

Most students at that time used the Harvard-Radcliffe Student Time
Sharing System (HRSTS), which was a Unix variant running on DEC
PDP-11s.

--Gene

------------------------------

From: AES/newspost <siegman@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Paper Tape Technology Was: What is the Name of #?
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:02:28 -0700


A recent posting from me said:

> Very similar punched tape technology was also used -- probably still
> is widely used -- in those traffic counting units that use a rubber
> hose tacked down across the roadway and a box by the side of the road.

> A classic clockwork mechanism inside the box (spring-wound or battery
> powered? -- I don't know, but I'd guess the former) slowly winds a
> paper tape from one reel to another.  Each time a car runs over the
> hose the resulting pneumatic impulse pushes an arm which punches a
> hole in the paper.

> As an undergrad at Harvard, Bill Gates wrote software to read and
> count these punched holes (a task complicated slightly by the fact
> that they are randomly spaced along the paper tape) and set up a
> company ("Traf-O-Data", I believe) located in his dorm room which
> received these tapes, read them using bootlegged time on Aiken's early
> Harvard University computer facility, and sent back printed reports to
> traffic engineers all over the company.

> (Above is written from memory, so take cum grano salis, but I think it's 
> basically a correct story -- corrections welcome.)
 
A response from John Levine quoted my third paragraph and said:

>  Gates and Allen did run Traf-O-Data, but the rest is wrong.  
>  Since Bill is 48 years old, when would he have been at Harvard?  
>  When was Aiken doing the Mark I through Mark IV?  Sheesh.

And this is a reply from me to those statements:

   The rest is wrong?  Really?
    
   1)  Gates, born in 1955, was an undergrad at Harvard (though I
   believe he never finished the degree).  This would have been
   around 1972-73 since I think he started Microsoft around 1973 
   or 1974.
   
   2)  The story of his involvement in Traf-O-Data was told me by a
   physics colleague who was a fellow undergrad living in the same
   entry as Gates in the same student residence at Harvard.  He
   recalled in particular the large number of packages containing
   paper tapes from traffic engineers that Gates received in the
   dorm, and his processing these on Harvard computer facilities
   at night.
   
   3)  I assume Gates wrote the software that processed the tapes --
   does JL know otherwise?
   
   4)  Howard Aiken was at Harvard from the 1940s (or earlier?)
   through 1961.  He founded the Harvard Computation Laboratory 
   around 1944 to 1947 (accounts vary).  The Laboratory staff and 
   facilities occupied a building at 33 Oxford street which was also 
   called  the Harvard Computation Laboratory, although I don't know 
   exactly when this building was built. 
   
   The organization and the building were both renamed as the 
   Aiken Computation Laboratory in 1964 (before Gates arrived).  
   The Laboratory was still operating, or at least issuing technical
   reports over that name, at least as late as 1981; the building
   remained under that name, and I believe housed Harvard's
   computer facilities, or many of them anyway, until it was torn 
   down in 1998.
   
   5)  I guess I don't know for sure that Gates used the computer
   hardware in this building for his Traf-O-Data operations --
   perhaps he used some other computer facility at Harvard -- but it
   certainly seems a very reasonable supposition,  Does JL have 
   any knowledge otherwise?  If so, referring to these facilities as 
   "Aiken's early Harvard University computer facility" seems fully 
   accurate to me.
   
   (And entirely as an aside, might Gates in 1971 even have used
   some surviving paper tape reader that had been connected to
   one of Aiken's early Mark xxx computers?  I have no idea, and 
   no knowledge of how long that kind of paper tape hardware can 
   last; but I believe Aiken's Mark IV operated until some time in the 
   late 1950s.)
   
   6)  Finally, does anyone see any reference to Aiken's Mark xxx 
    computers in my original post?    
   
J Carpenter (SunGard BSR) <jonathan.carpenter@sungardbsr.com> has also 
posted a reply which says:

> Actually, it was before Bill Gates went to Harvard, when he was still
> in high school, that Bill Gates and Paul Allen built their own
> computer to measure traffic data, and they made about $20,000.

> Search the web on "bill gates" and "traf-o-data" for the details.

   I've subsequently looked at several of those web sites, and they 
   indeed all agree that Gates and Allen were interested in the traffic 
   counting problem and together founded Traf-O-Data before Gates 
   went off to Harvard, while both were still in high school.  
   
   Few of the sites are very explicit about details, however, or 
   present much documentation, and some of them contradict each 
   other on specific details.  Several of them also seem to agree that 
   neither the hardware nor the software aspects of the traffic 
   counting problem had been fully worked out by the time Gates 
   went off to Harvard.  
   
   I certainly have no first-hand knowledge of these events myself, 
   but I'd attach considerable reliability to the first-hand report from 
   Gates' fellow Harvard student.  Perhaps this has not become part of 
   the Gates legend because it's not quite as appealing or newsworthy 
   as the "brilliant young high-school entrepreneur" human interest
   aspects of the stories on these other websites.

------------------------------

From: Bob Goudreau <BobGoudreau@wherever ...>
Subject: Re: Paper Tape Technology  was Re: What is Name of #?
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:10:32 -0400


[PAT, please eliminate my email address from the message.  Thanks.]

J Carpenter (SunGard BSR)  wrote:

>>> As an undergrad at Harvard, Bill Gates wrote software to read
>>> and count these punched holes (a task complicated slightly by
>>> the fact that they are randomly spaced along the paper tape) and
>>> set up acompany ("Traf-O-Data", I believe) located in his dorm
>>> room which received these tapes, read them using bootlegged time
>>> on Aiken's early Harvard University computer facility, and sent
>>> back printed reports to traffic engineers all over the company.

>> Gates and Allen did run Traf-O-Data, but the rest is wrong.  Since
>> Bill is 48 years old, when would he have
>> been at Harvard?  When was Aiken doing the Mark I through Mark IV?

>> Sheesh.

> Actually, it was before Bill Gates went to Harvard, when he was still
> in high school, that Bill Gates and Paul Allen built their own
> computer to measure traffic data, and they made about $20,000.

I think the original poster confused two details of the true story:

1) As pointed out above, Traf-O-Data came before Gates's brief stint
in college.  What he *did* work on while at Harvard was a BASIC
interpreter for the MITS Altair (an early personal computer) that
became the first product sold by the new "MicroSoft" company Gates and
Allen founded.

2) The Aiken "facility" in question was not one of Howard Aiken's
1940s-era electromechanical computers (the Mark I was obviously the
first model), but the university's Aiken Computation Laboratory, a
building a bit north of Harvard Yard.  This structure was the home of
the DEC PDP-10 that Gates used to develop his BASIC interpreter.  As
recently as the mid-1980s, the public areas of this building still
contained a display of some of the pieces of Aiken's original Mark I
computer.  As I mentioned above, this computer was electromechanical,
not electronic, and the sections on display reminded me of nothing so
much as an old electromechanical phone switch!
 
The ironic coda to the story is that a few years ago, the Aiken lab
was razed.  What stands in its place now?  The new home of the Harvard
CS department, Maxwell-Dworkin Hall, built with money donated by none
other than Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer and named in honor of their
mothers.

Hopefully, the new facility still displays the remnants of Aiken's
Mark I machine, but since I haven't visited it yet, I can't say for
sure.

Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC

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From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Fireman Claims Radio Failure Nearly Killed Him
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:13:37 -0700
Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com


Tony P. wrote:

> It's an accident that was waiting to happen and I'm happy that it did,
> but my condolences go out to the firefighter who was nearly killed
> because of Motorola's funky emergency system. I hope he sues the ever
> loving crap out of Motorola and wins.

The ironic thing is that in the cellular world, although I consider
Motorola phones to be overpriced junk because the fit and finish is
often terrible, they seem to have very few equals in terms of being
able to deal with weak signals.  I know that they were the only choice
for quite some time if you used a CDMA carrier and wanted a phone that
held onto calls almost anywhere (though other manufacturers are doing
well these days, too)

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From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: What is the Name of #?  How did # Get its Name?
Date: 30 Sep 2004 19:50:38 -0400
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom23.458.9@telecom-digest.org>, Nick Landsberg
<SPAMhukolautTRAP@SPAMattTRAP.net> wrote:

> Actually, as I recall, the controller was necessary.  The 3270's
> didn't transmit anything until the operator hit the "send" key, and
> this would be buffered in the "cluster controller."

> The controller, in turn, would be polled at roughly 2 second intervals
> by the far end, at which time it would send the data.  A controller
> was theoretically limited to 32 terminals, but we found that 16 was a
> practical limit for our applications.

The polling, which could be set to various intervals, was only on the
"remote" controllers, i.e. connected by a communications line, either
bisync or (more recently) SNA/VTAM.

There were also "local" controllers which were channel attached.  On
these, pressing an "attention" key (enter, clear, pf1-pf24 & a few
others) caused the controller to signal an i/o interrupt to the
processor which would cause the processor to read the controller to
find out what was wanted.  IBM channels on early machines transferred
1.5 megabytes/sec, newer ones went considerably faster.

> I never encountered an installation where there was an isolated 3270
> without a cluster controller, although I presume this was
> theoretically possible.

This is correct with 2 sort-of exceptions.  There was a model 3276
which was a display and a controller in one case.  Not sure, but I
think the controller could handle a few additional displays.

Also, the later 360s and all 370s and later processors used a built in
3270 like display which served as an operator console and a service
console to control the functions that used to be in lights, switches
and buttons on the console.  Part of the CPU microcode served as the
controller for this display.


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From: Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comTHROW.net>
Subject: Re: AT&T Lowers Price of its Residential VoIP Service
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:05:17 GMT


Jack Decker wrote:

> Comment: I wonder if this means that anyone who orders today
> (September 30) would still get the introductory price of $19.99 for
> the first six months, but after that would only have to pay the new
> rate of $29.99/month (rather than the $34.99 still shown on their web
> site). 

That is my expectation!  My Dlink just arrived: it'll take a day or two
to get the number ported.

> Personally I think there are better deals out there than AT&T,
> for example several VoIP companies offer their "unlimited" service at
> about $20 or $25 per month. 

Glad to hear competition is back.

> To learn more about AT&T CallVantage Service, consumers can visit
> http://www.CallVantage.com, call 1-866-816-3815, extension 70339, or
> visit one of these retailers.

> Full press release at:
> http://www.att.com/news/item/0,1847,13258,00.html 

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From: Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comTHROW.net>
Subject: Re: Net Firms: Don't Tax Internet Calling
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:07:21 GMT


Jack Decker wrote:

> http://news.com.com/Net+firms+Dont+tax+VoIP/2100-7352_3-5389880.html

> By Declan McCullagh
> Staff Writer, CNET News.com

> The largest U.S. Internet phone companies are asking the Internal
> Revenue Service not to slam them with a "temporary" tax created more
> than 100 years ago to pay for the Spanish-American War.

> In a six-page letter to the IRS sent late Wednesday, the companies
> stressed that fledgling voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) services
> should not be subject to the excise tax that President William
> McKinley signed into law in 1898.

> "VoIP is having a profound and beneficial impact on the United States
> and the world in a way unimaginable in 1898," the letter said, urging
> the IRS to "refrain from any attempt to extend the excise tax to VoIP
> services."

> The letter was sent by the VON Coalition, which represents AT&T,
> Covad, Intel, Level3, MCI, Microsoft, Pulver.com, Skype and Texas
> Instruments.

> Full story at:
> http://news.com.com/Net+firms+Dont+tax+VoIP/2100-7352_3-5389880.html

VoIP is also independent of other rules: for example, they can bill to
a credit card and cut off service if you card goes belly up. Whereas
with POTS they cannot cut off phone service because the legal system
has deemed phone an essential service that can only be cut off after
due process. - RM

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From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
Subject: Re: Our Inexpensive Directory Assistance Program
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:02:34 -0400


Pat, 

    Can this be used in conjunction with Vonage service?  

Fred 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess you are referring to the
service at http://www.easy411.com/telecomdigest where you enroll
your telephone number(s), provide your credit card number then 
get billed 65 cents for each use of directory assistance in real
time, instead of the $1.25 or $1.50 your own telco charges you. 

The answer is yes, you can. Vonage itself takes calls to '411' and
defaults them to *their carrier [for DA] of choice* but they charge
you 99 cents per (up to) two inquiries. But the one I am associated
with uses an 800 number instead, and bills you 65 cents each. The ANI
provided is used to match your account with the system. If you have
some method of your own to dial 411 and re-direct it to the 800 number
that's fine or otherwise make a speed dial button for directory assist-
ance. They do not literally go to your credit/debit card for 65 
cents each time you inquire; they tally up your calls and charge you
every month or so for just what you used, no service charges and no
minimum usage requirements. 

If you have a company for example, with a dozen phone lines each with
a number, enroll all the numbers, redirect 411 however you please (or
tell your people to dial the 800 number) and calculate the savings, at
65 cents per call versus whatever you pay now for directory. PAT]

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