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TELECOM Digest     Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:17:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 432

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Amazon to Take Searches on Web to a New Depth (Monty Solomon)
    How to Protect Yourself From Vandals, Viruses Using Windows (M Solomon)
    iBasis to Offer Free Calls (Monty Solomon)
    The Pen Is Mightier Than the Lock (Monty Solomon)
    Intuit Pits Its Customers Against Its Partners (Monty Solomon)
    Why Jobs Should Heed VoIP's Call (Monty Solomon)
    A Great Phone, Tied Down (Monty Solomon)
    Interfacing With Telephone Ring + Tip?? (Zerang Shah)
    International Phone Numbers (ed)
    Re: Conference Call With Four Parties? Programming (John McHarry)
    Super Easy WIFI Hot Spot Kits - Indoor/Outdoor (Arthur Tyde)
    Re: Conference Call With Four Parties? Programming (Marise A Klapka)
    FTC Proposes (Tax Supported) Rewards for Spam Stoolies (Danny Burstein)
    Spammer 'Bounty Hunters' Will Need Cash, FTC Says (Lisa Minter)
    Internet Cafes Shut in Vietnam for Porn, Politics (Lisa Minter)
    Long-Distance Takes Local Route (Jack Decker - VOIP News)
    Packet 8 Share and Score (Jack Decker - VOIP News)

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:10:00 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Amazon to Take Searches on Web to a New Depth


By JOHN MARKOFF

PALO ALTO, Calif., Sept. 14 - Amazon.com , the e-commerce giant, plans
to take aim at the Internet search king Google with an advanced
technology that the company says will take searches beyond mere
retrieval of Web pages to let users more fully manage the information
they find.

A9.com, a start-up owned by Amazon, said in a briefing here on Tuesday
that it planned to make the new version of its search service, named
A9.com, available Tuesday evening. The service will offer users the
ability to store and edit bookmarks on an A9.com central server
computer, keep track of each link clicked on previous visits to a Web
page, and even make personal "diary" notes on those pages for viewing
on subsequent visits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/technology/15search.html

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:55:55 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: How to Protect Yourself From Vandals, Viruses If You Use Windows


By WALTER S. MOSSBERG

If you use a Windows personal computer to access the Internet, your
personal files, your privacy and your security are all in jeopardy.
An international criminal class of virus writers, hackers, digital
vandals and sleazy businesspeople wakes up every day planning to
attack your PC.

And the company that controls the Windows platform, Microsoft, has
made this too easy to do by carelessly opening numerous security holes
in the operating system and its Web browser. Even if you install the
recent Service Pack 2 update to Windows XP, you will still be
vulnerable.

As I have said before, I believe Microsoft and the computer makers
should be taking care of all these problems with a unified, managed
approach that would free users from having to learn about all the
threats and constantly manage security. They should take
responsibility for shielding users from hackers, spammers, viruses and
spyware -- the malicious software that hijacks your browsing and
searching, pushes ads into your face, and secretly logs your
activities.

But until that happens, you will have to fend for yourself. So here's
a quick, rudimentary guide to protecting yourself in the digital
world.

http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20040916.html

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:29:32 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: iBasis to Offer Free Calls


Carrier launches consumer service

By Peter J. Howe, Globe Staff  

iBasis Inc. , a Burlington company that has become a major
behind-the-scenes wholesale carrier of international phone calls over
the Internet for big phone companies like AT&T Corp. and Sprint , is
launching its first direct consumer service with a splashy promotion:
1 million minutes of free phone calls for the first customers who sign
up.

The promotion, equivalent to 50,000 free 20-minute calls, covers free
calls to most destinations in Western Europe and east Asia, as well as
other big cities, including Buenos Aires, Lagos, Nigeria, Moscow, and
Warsaw. Free calls, which may also be placed within the United States,
are limited to two hours in duration. Any individual call made right
before the 1 million minutes get used up will remain free until
callers hang up.

To market the consumer service, iBasis has set up a new website called
Pingo.com, similar to other so-called "virtual calling card"
sites. Using a credit card, people can buy prepaid minutes online that
they can use to make international calls by entering a personal
identification code, as if they had bought a prepaid calling card with
a printed number at a store. Users are charged a 98-cent-a-month
service fee, in addition to the cost of calls, and surcharges for
calls made from payphones.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/09/15/ibasis_to_offer_free_calls/

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:24:47 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Pen Is Mightier Than the Lock


By LYDIA POLGREEN

The cunning bicycle thieves of New York City always seem to be one
step ahead of lockmakers. Design a more sophisticated lock and the
thieves make a better pick. Make a sturdier chain and they get bigger
bolt cutters. And if all else fails, they just dig up the parking
meter or stop sign to unshackle the bike from it. But to open some of
the toughest locks on the market, a thief needs only to flick his Bic
pen.

Many cyclists erupted in disbelief and anger this week after videos
were posted on the Internet showing how a few seconds of work could
pick many of the most expensive and common U-shaped locks, including
several models made by Kryptonite, the most recognized brand.

Mashing the empty barrel of a ballpoint pen into the cylindrical
keyhole and turning it clockwise does the trick that has struck fear
into the hearts of bicycle owners, especially those in New York,
where thousands of bikes are stolen each year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/17/nyregion/17lock.html

Cyclists: Bike locks easy prey for thieves

Kryptonite promises more secure product

By Ross Kerber, Globe Staff 

Kryptonite, the large bicycle-lock maker, said yesterday it will speed
the delivery of new versions of its burly locks following complaints
that current versions can be picked open with flimsy ballpoint pens.

This week cycling enthusiasts have deluged the Canton business with
concerns over the security of the locks. The apparent vulnerability is
related to broader concerns that have arisen lately against makers of
locks used to secure everything from laptop computers to coin-operated
laundry machines.

Kryptonite is best known for its "U-lock" designs that consist of
heavy U-shaped pieces of steel meant to be much harder to saw or pry
apart compared with a traditional padlock and chain. Some of the
U-locks use an "axial pin tumbler" in which a tubular key is inserted
into a circular keyhole.

But at least since the summer, security specialists have raised 
concerns that pens inserted into the keyhole can jimmy the lock 
apart. Lately some specialists have become quite vocal and begun 
posting videos of themselves at the task.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/09/16/cyclists_bike_locks_easy_prey_for_thieves/

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:29:39 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Intuit Pits Its Customers Against Its Partners


By Ed Foster , Section Columns

In a way, you have to give Intuit credit. Who else could figure out
how to "sunset" both their customers and their financial institution
partners at the same time?

Intuit's decision to disable its older technology for importing most
types of bank account information in Quicken 2005 for Windows is
causing quite a stir. "I remembered reading your story about Intuit no
longer supporting on-line banking with older versions of Quicken, so I
thought I should bite the bullet this year and upgrade to Quicken 2005
when it came out," a reader wrote. "So guess what -- with the new
Quicken I can no longer download checking account info from my bank,
something I could do perfectly well with Quicken 2002."

The reader's bank informed her it had refused to pay Intuit's fees for
implementing the OFX (Open Financial Exchange) download technology
that is now mandatory for most online banking in Quicken 2005.  "If I
want to access my accounts, I have to revert to an older version of
Quicken that still uses the .QIF file format," the reader wrote. "It's
either that or type my data in by hand. Otherwise, my bank would have
to charge an astronomical monthly fee to make up for extortion
payments they'd be making to Intuit. What incredible greed!"

http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2004/9/17/82751/2423

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:18:26 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Why Jobs Should Heed VoIP's Call


BYTE OF THE APPLE
By Alex Salkever

Apple has what it would need -- including its ongoing transition to a
services outfit -- to make a "Macphone" network work

The hype surrounding the Aug. 31 launch of the third-generation iMac
stole the thunder from another launch of great interest to Mac users.
I'm referring to the public release -- also on Aug. 31 -- by free
Internet telephony company Skype of a long-awaited beta version of its
software for Apple ( AAPL ) OS X.

Apparently I wasn't the only Machead jonesing for Skype. According to
the company, 105,000 people have downloaded its Mac software since its
launch. And bear in mind that this is a true beta version --
definitely not ready for prime time and lacking some of the key
features of the full version available to Microsoft ( MSFT ) Windows
and Linux users.

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2004/tc20040916_1040_tc056.htm

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:59:52 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: A Great Phone, Tied Down


Ten O'Clock Tech
by Arik Hesseldahl 

But a week ago I swerved in new direction and dropped about $300 for
an upgrade to the v710, which appears to be Motorola's highest-end
phone that works on Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) networks,
namely that of Verizon Wireless, a joint venture of Verizon and
Vodafone.

But then I learned that the phone can't do this via Bluetooth. I've
been syncing my PalmOne Tungsten T handheld with my Mac for about year
now using Bluetooth without difficulty. Exactly why this phone
couldn't do the same thing seemed ridiculous.

It turns out Verizon has had certain features in the phone disabled.
Full Bluetooth support is one of them. This rules out the phone
connecting to any Bluetooth devices other than a headset, such as a
wireless keyboard or a printer or indeed another Bluetooth-enabled
phone.

Another missing feature is the ability to move a photo from the phone
directly to a computer via Bluetooth or a data cable. When you take
pictures on this phone, the only way to save them on a computer is to
send them by e-mail over Verizon's wireless network, for which there
is a charge.

The network works just fine and sending pictures in this way is more
or less flawless. But it's irritating to know that when you just want
to take a picture and save it for yourself, you can't just move it
directly from the phone to a computer. And Verizon operates a Web
service called Pix Place, where you can send pictures and then
download them to a PC. But why add an extra step to a process that
should be simple?

A Verizon Wireless spokeswoman tells me this is standard operating 
procedure across its camera phone lines. Verizon's product is not the 
phone, she says, but rather the network itself. Indeed.

http://www.forbes.com/personaltech/2004/09/13/cx_ah_0913tentech.html

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From: ninjak@gmx.de (zerang shah)
Subject: Interfacing With Telephone Ring + Tip??
Date: 16 Sep 2004 18:06:37 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I have a design with a MT8880C DTMF transceiver ready to go. Right now
it's outputing tones using a speaker, but I now need to output them
across a telephone line to dial. I need to know a few things --

1) How can I use the ring + tip to take the phone "off the hook" so
that I can dial?

2) How can I take my DTMF frequency wire and interface it with the
ring and tip of the telephone wire to dial out?

Thanks for the help.

------------------------------

From: ed <e@e.com>
Subject: International Phone Numbers
Organization: ed
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:08:01 +1000


Hi, I'm writing a parser for a project and have been looking for a web
page or other source that lists the country codes alongside area code
and the number of digitals in the local number.  Could anybody suggest
a web site or an alternative source?

Thanks.

------------------------------

From: John McHarry <mcharryj@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Conference Call With Four Parties? Programming
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:59:33 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net


rd wrote:

> Wondering how we can program the Nortel system to have ourselves and 3
> other parties connected.  We have programmed for 3 outgoing lines but
> cannot connect the 3rd party. Getting a message saying only 3 three
> partes are allowed to be on conference call.  Any help will be greatly
> appreciated.

You didn't say what Nortel system.

Anyway, going above three parties requires a more sophisticated
bridge.  Unless you have payed a premium for such, you are probably at
your limit.

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From: aftyde@tyde.net (Arthur Tyde)
Subject: Super Easy WIFI Hot Spot Kits - Indoor/Outdoor
Date: 17 Sep 2004 14:26:59 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Briefly, Sputnik http://www.sputnik.com, provides a fully integrated
Wi-Fi hardware and software solution that centralizes all of the
wireless network and subscriber management functions. Sputnik's
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and administer their wireless networks from any web browser.

Sputnik's software architecture consists of intelligent embedded
software running on Sputnik-powered Access Points (APs) at the edge of
the network that communicates with Sputnik Control Center Server
software, running in a data center, enables deployment, monitoring and
control of the wireless network from any Web browser. In addition, our
open, standards-based platform is designed for rapid application
delivery and flexible integration with other back-end systems such as
billing, prepaid cards, credit card payment options, rogue AP
detection, and network management. 

At the present, over 1000 hotspot locations had successfully deployed
Sputnik's Wi-Fi technology solution, including the UK.

*Equally important, our Sputnik-Powered network has several advanced
features:*

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* Provides a centralized interface for remotely monitoring,
configuring
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bandwidth usage, location, and usage patterns.

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* Handles all AAA (Access, Authentication, and Authorization) or plugs
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* Support SSL-encrypted HTTP traffic, Corporate VPN, WEP and WAP.

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* Customizable captive portals and location specific content which can
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* Sputnik Control Center manages hundreds to thousands of locations
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* Enables rapid, organic deployment of a wireless network-simply plug
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For additional information, please visit our website at:
www.sputnik.com
<http://www.sputnik.com/>

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Conference Call With Four Parties 
From: Marise A Klapka <Marise.Klapka@Withheld on request>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:32:08 -0500


Please Withhold My E-Mail Address.   
                                                                           
                                                                           
In response to:

 From: rdaryani@aurigacorp.com (rd)
 Subject: Conference Call With Four Parties? Programming
 Date: 15 Sep 2004 13:03:25 -0700
 Organization: http://groups.google.com

> Wondering how we can program the Nortel system to have ourselves and 3
> other parties connected.  We have programmed for 3 outgoing lines but
> cannot connect the 3rd party. Getting a message saying only 3 three
> parties are allowed to be on conference call.  Any help will be greatly
> appreciated.

If you're programming for 3 parties, that's the problem - you, the user,
make 4.

Not knowing the system model or software release, I'm not sure if these
programming instructions will help, but ....

LD 11
req:  PRT
type:  TNB
tn:  WWW  X  YY  ZZ (phone set's terminal number, or TN)

Look for the phone's Key ## that is assigned "AOx"  (AO3 = 3 parties, AO6
= 6 parties, etc.)

      If you don't know the TN, then:     req:  PRT
                                                                  type:
DNB  (phone set's extension)
                                    dn:  enter extension #

To change the number of parties allowed in a conference:

LD 11
req:  CHG
type:  enter the phone model/type here, i.e,. 2006, 2008, 2616, 3904, etc.
tn:  WWW  X  YY  ZZ
echg:  YES
item:  Key ##  AOx  (## being the key number, x being the number of users
that can be conferenced)

Hope this helps.

Marise

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From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: FTC Proposes (Tax Supported) Rewards For Spam Stoolies
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:23:21 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


The FTC today issued a report assessing whether and how a system that
rewards members of the public for tracking down spammers would or
could help improve enforcement of the Controlling the Assault of
Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act of 2002 (CAN-SPAM Act.)...

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/bounty.htm

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
 		     dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In this same issue of the Digest, Lisa
Minter brings a detailed account of this FTC proposal.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Spammer 'Bounty Hunters' Will Need Cash, FTC Says
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:27:20 EDT


Rewards of up to $250,000 will be needed to encourage people to turn
over friends or associates who send out millions of deceptive e-mail
pitches in violation of the law, the FTC said. 

And that cash will have to come out of the federal budget, rather than
settlements collected from spammers, the FTC said.

While millions of Internet users may be annoyed by spam, only a
handful of insiders are likely to have enough information to form the
basis of a case, the agency said.

"The commission does not believe that the vast majority of consumers
who are now forwarding 300,000 pieces of spam daily to the FTC spam
database are likely to be a good source for such information," the FTC
said in a report to Congress.

Lawmakers asked the FTC to assess whether the government should
encourage "cybersleuths" to help track down marketers who break the
law by sending out deceptive pitches for herbal Viagra, pornography or
other forms of spam.

California Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren and other advocates have said
such an approach would encourage technologically savvy citizens to
help government investigators track down illicit marketers who often
hide behind a trail of false online identities.

The FTC didn't say whether it thought such a system was a good idea,
but outlined conditions needed to make it work.

To encourage insiders to come forward, they should be granted immunity
and given the reward even if the FTC doesn't collect fines from the
guilty party, the agency said.

Even then, insiders might prove unwilling to cooperate as the FTC
cannot grant immunity, the report said.

"To the extent an insider has 'unclean hands' and faces potential
legal liability, it is questionable whether such a person would be
willing to assume the significant personal risk of coming forward,"
the report said.

New Jersey Democratic Sen. Jon Corzine praised the report and said it
would serve as a sound basis for a bounty-hunter program.

"There is no single magic bullet in the battle against spam. But we've
made so little progress to date that we can't afford to leave any
reasonable approach untried," Corzine said in a statement.


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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Internet Cafes Shut in Vietnam for Porn, Politics
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:28:38 EDT


HANOI (Reuters) -

Authorities in southern Vietnam have shut down 65 Internet cafes and
kiosks after finding hundreds of addresses of pornographic and
anti-government Web sites on their computers, a newspaper reported on
Friday.

The communist government recently intensified efforts to control use
of the Internet by requiring customers of Internet cafes to register
their identities and making cafe owners monitor the sites customers
visit.

Last month, authorities set up a special police unit to investigate
online crime and curb the distribution of banned material in
cyberspace.

The 65 Internet outlets were shut down over the past two weeks in the
bustling commercial hub of Ho Chi Minh City, the city-run Phap Luat
(Laws) newspaper said.

Inspectors were continuing to scour computers in Internet outlets to
see what sites customers had been visiting, the newspaper quoted the
deputy head of the city's science and technology department, Hoang Le
Minh, as saying.

While the number of Internet users in Vietnam has been rising quickly,
hitting 5.34 million at the end of July, the government curbs access
to the global network through firewalls that block sites deemed
inappropriate.

All media in Vietnam are state controlled.


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From: Jack Decker <VOIP News>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:10:57 -0400
Subject: Long-Distance Takes Local Route
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0409170230sep17,1,7145420.story?coll=chi-business-hed

Got friends or family in L.A.? New York? Miami? New Internet-based
phone service from AT&T charges local rates for their calls to your
home.

By Jon Van
Tribune staff reporter

What's your local calling area? For AT&T customers, it can be across
the country and all points in between.

On Thursday AT&T Corp. rolled out a new product called Simple Reach to
provide as many as 10 different phone numbers -- each from a different
area code, such as New York City's 212 and San Francisco's 415 -- to
customers using its Internet-based phone service.

And all of those numbers can be answered by the customer's phone in
Chicago using voice over Internet protocol technology, with the caller
in those distant cities billed only a local charge.

For a customer with out-of-town numbers in New York or San Francisco,
it means that friends or relatives who live in those cities can dial a
local number and avoid paying long-distance fees.

Also Thursday, Vonage -- the company that pioneered VoIP -- said its
customers can get phone numbers from Mexico City.

Both firms charge about $5 a month for each virtual number.

Although the quality of Internet-based calls sounds much like regular
phone calls, the underlying technology is more closely related to
sending an e-mail than traditional circuit-based phone service. As
with Internet technology generally, VoIP has little connection to
geography.

But there could be a chaotic downside to having 10 phone numbers
besides trying to keep track of them.

Full story at:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0409170230sep17,1,7145420.story?coll=chi-business-hed

How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/
 
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From: Jack Decker <VOIP News>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:43:36 -0400
Subject: Packet 8 Share and Score
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


Andy Abramson, in his VoIP watch blog at
http://andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch/ notes that Packet8 seems to
be the latest VoIP company to implement a customer referral program:

[Begin quote:]

Keith of VoIPNuke, who has resold Packet8 longer than anyone I know,
pointed me to the new P8 referral program
<http://www.packet8.net/about/sharescore.asp>.

This is taking a page out of both Vonage and AT&T's playbook.

There is nothing more than one happy customer telling others about the
service. Word of Mouth is the most valuable, next to word of mouse of
course!

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