From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Sep 14 15:25:13 2004 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6p3/8.11.6) id i8EJPDc22486; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200409141925.i8EJPDc22486@massis.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: massis.lcs.mit.edu: ptownson set sender to editor@telecom-digest.org using -f To: ptownson Approved: patsnewlist Subject: TELECOM Digest V23 #428 TELECOM Digest Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:00 EDT Volume 23 : Issue 428 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Weir & Partners Launches Norvergence Litigation (David O. Rodriguez) What Do You Mean No One is Getting Sued? (Deborah - ISP WEST INC.) Re: My Gripe With the Hype Around Skype and Five Good Reasons (Solomon) Is There Something Odd Going on Here? (Charles B. Wilber) Cox Decides VoIP is Ready for Prime Time (Jack Decker - VOIP News) Penns. Communications & Technology Committee to Hold (Decker-VOIP News) Re: ISDN Phone System With DECT Terminals (meATprivacyDOTnet) Phantom Extension Groups (Larry) VeriSign Issues Quarterly Domain Name Report; Total Domain (M Solomon) Re: Last Laugh! Start the Day Right! (Destined) Re: Last Laugh! Start the Day Right! (Carl Zwanzig) Last Laugh! And no Graphic Illustrations Either (Lisa Minter) All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David O. Rodriguez Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:36:25 -0500 Subject: Weir & Partners Launches Norvergence Litigation From: Habib Abdul To: dor@writeme.com To: csx130mph@yahoo.com Subject: Weir & Partners Launches Norvergence Litigation! From: "Norvergence News" Reply-To: "Norvergence News" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:42:03 -0400 (EDT) The firm of Weir & Partners LLP announced this morning that it has obtained committed fee payments exceeding its required minimum of $1,200,000.00 for the http://www.norvergencelitigation.com Norvergence Litigation and wants to thank the many Norvergence customers who signed up as clients. The firm agrees to represent those ex-Norvergence customers who responded in accordance with the terms of its Engagement Letter (which can be viewed by http://www.norvergencelitigation.com/Weir_Engagement_5.pdf clicking here) In fact, the firm had tallied $1,265,000.00 or so in committed fees as of this morning and had about 200 applications yet to be processed. If you signed and returned the Engagement Letter but did not receive an acknowledgement of receipt from the firm, you should be receiving an e-mail from the firm no later than 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 indicating that you are a client of the firm in the Norvergence Litigation; you should also receive a username and password for the web site at http://www.NorvergenceLitigation.com from the firm no later than this Friday. The firm is still inputting information regarding its new clients into its systems and will be reviewing those records to determine if any new clients inadvertently paid too much (for example, by paying for three Matrix devices when it had only one) and to assure that it does not inadvertently double or even triple charge those clients who, in an exercise of caution, faxed, e-mailed and overnighted their signed Engagement Letter. The firm will be proceeding with the Norvergence Litigation even if such adjustments cause it to reduce its committed prepaid fees to less than the required $1,200,000.00. This is the last notice you will be receiving from Weir & Partners LLP through the TAA's "Norvergence News" email list. Future email communications to you will originate from Weir & Partners. If you do not receive an e-mail from Weir & Partners by 4:00 p.m. on Wednesday afternoon, confirming that you are being represented in the Norvergence Litigation, please communicate directly with the firm by e-mail addressed to norvergencelitigation@weirpartners.com We wish you the best of luck! ------------------------------ From: Deborah - ISP WEST INC Subject: What Do You Mean No One is Getting Sued? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:56:10 -0700 Hi, I just got a call from a former Norvergence customer in California who said he was 3 months behind on his lease and had just received a letter from the leasing agency that if he does not pay the entire lease amount IN FULL by 9/13/04 he will be sued ... That gave him less than a week to pay in full. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I meant just what I said, Deborah, no one (*that I know of or have heard from*) is getting sued. I do not know any or all Norvergence customers, but I do know (per the other message in this issue) that many Norvergence customers have united in a lawsuit as plaintiffs against the evil people who put the Norvergence scheme together, and the dimwitted banks/leasing companies they used as their tools, to continue enforcing it even after they went out of business. If you wish to help the 'former Norvergence customers' who contact you, my suggestion would be you (a) have them obtain the correct name and telephone number and address of the person or entity which is purporting to 'sue' them, and (b) have these 'former Norvergence customers' get in contact with their own attorney and/or Weir Partners *immediatly*. Ask these 'former Norvergence customers' to identify the person who calls them: unless the caller is in fact an attorney or employed by an attorney he *cannot* file suit; all he can do is continue to bluster about same. Oh, to be certain, he could 'recommend' that his employer or client (if the caller is an agency) file suit. But tell your person not to be too worried. If your person is represented by Weir or another attorney then it is highly unethical for the collection agency or the leasing agency, etc to continue with direct phone calls to the debtor. (And it may be illegal for the phone calls to continue in many cases or to notate credit bureau records with disparaging information under those circumstances.) And Deborah, continue to advise these 'former Norvergence customers' who contact you to **keep a freeze on all accounts payable to Nor- vergence or its agents until these attornies (Weir or others) advise them to the contrary. And remember also, it is a *big* no-no for collection efforts to continue once the debtor is represented by counsel. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:48:10 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: My Gripe With the Hype Around Skype and Five Good Reasons [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This submission from Monty Solomon was printed here a couple days ago with the proper attribution eliminated in error. The authorship line ('by Greg Scher') was incorrectly omitted. It is being reprinted correctly here. PAT] My gripe with the hype around Skype and five good reasons why you shouldn't cancel your other phone services just yet Posted Sep 9, 2004, 1:05 PM ET by Greg Scher I've been giving a lot of thought to all the hype that Skype has been getting as of late. So much has been said about the great aspects nof Skype, of which there are a few, that in the interest of balancing this with a bit of perspective on the downsides, I thought I'd throw a few of my own opinions into the ring for you all to chew on. http://apple.weblogsinc.com/entry/7391864753130518/ ------------------------------ Date: 13 Sep 2004 16:49:58 EDT From: Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles B. Wilber) Subject: Is There Something Odd Going on Here? > FBI and Justice Dept. officials told the House Telecom Subcommittee > Wed. that there have been difficulties establishing wiretaps through > some VoIP carriers. > Some members wanted more information about the problems FBI and DoJ > officials face from VoIP providers when trying to obtain a > wiretap. Laura Parsky, DoJ deputy asst. attorney general, said the > information about specific problems was too sensitive. "We don't > want terrorists migrating to these networks," she said. > Parsky said more information could be given in a classified forum. Does anyone else think it odd that our government is undergoing major reorganization with substantial power and oversight being granted to the Dept. of Homeland Security while FBI and other DoJ officials refuse to provide "sensitive details" to members of Congress? Charlie Wilber Dartmouth College [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What is so odd about our government milking the events of 9/11/01 to the hilt; working them for all they are worth? Where 99.999 percent of similar crimes would be treated as 'mass murder' and the perpetrators dealt with accordingly, in this case 'they' (and I think you know who 'they' is) decided to define it as 'terrorism'. So what makes mass murder different than 'terrorism'? Only how the government and various federal agencies choose to define it, for their own agenda I guess. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Jack Decker Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:21:59 -0400 Subject: Cox Decides VoIP is Ready for Prime Time Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=122134 By: Al Senia America's Network Enews Cox Communications, a cable MSO that has been highly successful providing wired telephone service to more than 1 million customers in more than 13 markets, has decided to bring VoIP into the mainstream of its telephone product portfolio. Cox is preparing to extend its first VoIP service offering in Roanoke, Va. to four additional markets within the next few weeks, with an official announcement expected at the U.S. Telecom Association (USTA) show early next month in Las Vegas. Full story at: http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=122134 How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home: http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/ ------------------------------ From: Jack Decker Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:01:47 -0400 Subject: Pennsylvania Communications & Technology Committee to Hold Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-13-2004/0002249240&STORY&EDATE= Holding Public Hearing on Voice Over the Internet Protocol (VoIP) HARRISBURG, Pa., Sept. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Senate Communications & Technology Committee Chairman Sen. Jake Corman (R-34) and committee Vice Chairman Sen. John Rafferty (R-44) announced that the committee will be holding a public hearing on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 at 10:00 AM. Corman and Rafferty have scheduled a public hearing to be held at the Montgomery County Community College - West Campus in Pottstown. Corman and Rafferty said the committee hearing will focus on Voice Over the Internet Protocol, or VoIP technology. receive phone calls using the Internet. ------------------------------ From: meATprivacyDOTnet Subject: Re: ISDN Phone System With DECT Terminals Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:26:51 +0200 On 9/12/04 6:41 PM, meATprivacyDOTnet wrote: > Gigaset SX353isdn > > Gigaset SX255isdn > > I am not sure if I should go for the Gigaset SX353isdn or the Gigaset > SX255isdn. > Both base systems will allow up to 3 simultaneous calls (2 external > and 1 internal) and up to 8 DECT handsets. > I noticed the following differences: the SX353isdn includes a corded > phone and support Bluetooth, the SX255isdn has 2 analogue inputs > (instead of 1). > Did I miss any other difference? > The price is the same (176 euro). I think I am going to buy the Siemens Gigaset SX353isdn basestation and some Siemens Gigaset SL1 Colour handsets from an online German store. Do you think it is a good setup? Will the Gigaset SX353isdn basestation work in Italy? I am not sure if the ISDN standards used in Italy and Germany are the same (or compatible). Thanks. ------------------------------ From: larro18@hotmail.com (Larry) Subject: Phantom Extension Groups Date: 14 Sep 2004 08:07:15 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Hello All, I have two Panasonic TD1232 and a TVS120. I have an automated attendant that points to a phantom group when a customer dials 1. Now here's my dilemma when 1 is dialed every phone in the building that is programmed to the phantom extension rings. Is there a setup that will only ring on the phones that are available depending whether or not the person is on a phone call or search for extension according to how long they have been available? Maybe a flex button I can program to make the phone available or not? I know I can turn the ringers off on phones that are not occupied but I would like to avoid that. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:28:07 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: VeriSign Issues Quarterly Domain Name Report; Total Domain Name Third Report of Series Reveals Continued Increase in Domain Name Registration; ccTLDs Remain Fastest Growing Domain Group Comprising 39 Percent of All Registrations MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., Sept. 14 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- VeriSign, Inc. (Nasdaq: VRSN), the leading provider of intelligent infrastructure services for the Internet and telecommunications networks, today released the VeriSign(R) Domain Report for the second quarter, 2004, highlighting key industry data for domain name activity around the world. According to the report, 4.6 million new domain names were registered in the second quarter of 2004, representing a 2.5 percent growth over the first quarter, 2004. In all, worldwide domain name registrations reached a peak of 64.5 million domain names, a 7 percent increase over end of year 2003. The report reveals that growth statistics for domain name registrations have reached levels previously seen during the height of domain registrations in the late 1990s. For example, while .com remains the leader for all domains registered, country code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs) now account for 39 percent of all domain registrations. A handful of ccTLDs demonstrated significant growth during the second quarter of 2004 such as .de, which now represents 90 percent of the total domain name market in Germany. Key factors for the growth in domain registrations and renewals include the increasing utilization of the Internet among consumers and small business owners who are seeking to connect with the growing number of global Internet users, and the increasing availability of domain names in markets previously underserved by domain name resellers. Furthermore, while .net is ranked fourth in terms of the number of domain names registered, it remains an integral part of the Internet's current functionality and operational efficiency. For example, .net is the largest TLD by number of hosts, or machines connected to the Internet. More than 44 percent of hosts use .net. Additional .net key facts include: - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=43677142 ------------------------------ From: Destined Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Start the Day Right! Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:40:18 -0700 Gary Novosielski wrote: > Lisa Minter wrote: >> With thanks to Kathy and Ken (the other one.) >> One can substitute many, many people/things/ideas for "John Kerry." > I suggest substituting Lisa Minter. > By the way, as a political joke it's not funny, and what's MUCH worse, > as a technical joke, it doesn't work. PC's do not verify, by name, > files deleted from the recycle bin, and do not use the phrase "get rid > of" anyway. >> How to start each day with a positive outlook ... >> 1. Open a new file in your PC. >> 2. Name it "John Kerry." >> 3. Send it to the trash. >> 4. Empty the trash. >> 5. Your PC will ask you, "Do you really want to get rid of John Kerry?" >> 6. Answer calmly, "yes," and press the mouse button firmly. >> 7. Feel better ... ?? >> Cheers. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's not how my Windows 2000 or > Windows 98 operates. If there is *but one* file in the recycle bin > when you dump the trash atempts to dump the trash get a response of > "Are you sure you wish to get rid of '(file name)'? If there is more > than one file in the recycle bin then it says "Are you sure you wish > to get rid of these (number) files?". But for one file only, it asks > you by the name of the file. Anyway, what do you have against Lisa > Minter? If anyone should have a complaint it would be me, but she is > gradually shaping up and learning what to do. PAT] From my little understanding of Windows and the file allocation table/NTFS system, when a file get's deleted off the hard drive, it just adds a bit to a file pointer when a file has been delted from the trash/recycle bin but the data still resides on the drive and the name of the file? Jeremy <> ------------------------------ From: zbang@radix.net (Carl Zwanzig) Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Start the Day Right! Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:01:00 -0000 Organization: RadixNet Internet Services In article , Lisa Minter wrote: > With thanks to Kathy and Ken (the other one.) > One can substitute many, many people/things/ideas for "John Kerry." I saw that three weeks ago with George Bush. Neither one is funny, or telecom related. z! ------------------------------ From: Lisa Minter Subject: And no Graphic Illustrations Either! Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:26:28 -0500 A sex education class was about to begin for sophomores at Alexandria HS, and each student had to bring in a permission slip in order to take it. A bashful Lutheran choir boy handed in his slip and explained to the teacher, "My mom says I can take the course as long as there's no homework." ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, Yahoo Groups, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest Post Office Box 50 Independence, KS 67301 Phone: 620-402-0134 Fax 1: 775-255-9970 Fax 2: 530-309-7234 Fax 3: 208-692-5145 Email: editor@telecom-digest.org Subscribe: telecom-subscribe@telecom-digest.org Unsubscribe:telecom-unsubscribe@telecom-digest.org This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm- unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and published continuously since then. Our archives are available for your review/research. We believe we are the oldest e-zine/mailing list on the internet in any category! URL information: http://telecom-digest.org Anonymous FTP: mirror.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/ (or use our mirror site: ftp.epix.net/pub/telecom-archives) Email <==> FTP: telecom-archives@telecom-digest.org Send a simple, one line note to that automated address for a help file on how to use the automatic retrieval system for archives files. You can get desired files in email. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from * * Judith Oppenheimer, President of ICB Inc. and purveyor of accurate * * 800 & Dot Com News, Intelligence, Analysis, and Consulting. * * http://ICBTollFree.com, http://1800TheExpert.com * * Views expressed herein should not be construed as representing * * views of Judith Oppenheimer or ICB Inc. * ************************************************************************* ICB Toll Free News. Contact information is not sold, rented or leased. One click a day feeds a person a meal. Go to http://www.thehungersite.com Copyright 2004 ICB, Inc. and TELECOM Digest. All rights reserved. Our attorney is Bill Levant, of Blue Bell, PA. ************************ DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE JUST 65 CENTS ONE OR TWO INQUIRIES CHARGED TO YOUR CREDIT CARD! REAL TIME, UP TO DATE! SPONSORED BY TELECOM DIGEST AND EASY411.COM SIGN UP AT http://www.easy411.com/telecomdigest ! ************************ --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of fifty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. End of TELECOM Digest V23 #428 ******************************