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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 11 Sep 2004 04:48:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 424

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Web Data Transfer to Handsets Made Easier (Monty Solomon)
    Web Sites Keep Tabs on Campaign Giving (Monty Solomon)
    Microsoft Technology Powers Leading Broadcast Tools; IPTV (M Solomon)
    CDT Urges Caution on Wiretap Mandates for Internet (Monty Solomon)
    CDT Policy Post 10.14: Federal Court Strikes Down PA Law (Monty Solomon)
    Spammers Hijack Sender ID (Monty Solomon)
    EPIC Alert 11.17 (Monty Solomon)
    EFFector 17.33: Misguided Copyright Bill Moving Thru Congress (Solomon)
    Re: TXU to Link Customers' Rates to Scores (Stanley Cline)
    Re: Congress Hangs Up on VoIP for 2004 (Jack Decker)
    Re: My New DVR From Cable One (Paul Vader)
    AT&T CallVantage VOIP Service - Area Code Choices (burgerwars)
    Re: AT&T - What a Bad Company Are You! (Bill Turlok)
    Re: Intel Outlines Strategy for Making Net Smarter, Safer (baracooda)
    Re: More Thoughts About RCA (Julian Thomas)
    For Sale: Panasonic KXTG4000B Phone System w/ Cordless (Joe Bartoldus)
    PayPal to Levy Fines for Gambling, Porn (Lisa Minter)
    U.S. Judge Rejects Law to Block Child Porn on Web (Lisa Minter)

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:16:00 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Web Data Transfer to Handsets Made Easier


By MAY WONG AP Technology Writer

PALO ALTO, Calif. (AP) -- Have you ever gone online to get driving
directions, only to leave the printout behind? Have you made movie
plans, but forgot to jot down the show times? Or do you simply need an
easy way to feed phone numbers to your cell phone?

A trio of entrepreneurs believe they have a solution.

With cell phones becoming more like computers and people carrying them
wherever they go, the founders of Vazu Inc. have developed what they
consider an easy way to transfer phone numbers and other data from PCs
and the Internet onto handsets.

They quietly released their first product earlier this year for users
to transfer contact information from desktop address books without any
special cables or software. With little publicity, "Vazu Contacts" won
rave reviews and garnered thousands of users in 40 countries.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=43626984

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:29:49 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Web Sites Keep Tabs on Campaign Giving


By ANICK JESDANUN AP Internet Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- As a Washington journalist during the 90s, I made
frequent treks to the Federal Election Commission to inspect cabinets
full of campaign-finance reports to find out who was giving to whom.

Though some data were available through a proprietary online system,
those $20-per-hour access fees added up. Candidates, meanwhile, had to
be cajoled into providing data on disc _ many flatly refused, while
one responded to a colleague's request with ancient 8-inch floppies
that fit no modern computer.

Times have changed. I'm jealous of all the information available over
the Internet _ most of it for free. Even President Bush's campaign
site has a searchable database of his contributors. That doesn't make
finding data easy. But what's out there is a welcome start.

There's no matching the FEC's own site for completeness _ and 
confusion. In most cases, you get multiple ways to view data on 
contributors to House, Senate and presidential campaigns, political 
parties and special-interest groups.

You can view PDF files or scanned images of paper reports, going as
far back as 1993. Or you can view data as data _ on-screen, or
downloaded for viewing in a spreadsheet program like Excel.

This is great for serious analysis. But for the merely curious, the 
FEC site can be daunting.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=43614613

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:32:08 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Microsoft Technology Powers Leading Broadcast Tools; IPTV


     Microsoft Technology Powers Leading Broadcast Tools and IPTV
     Solutions at IBC2004

Microsoft Demonstrates First Set-Top Boxes for IPTV Platform; Windows
Media 9 Series Showcases Advanced End-to-End High-Definition Encoding
and Playback Solutions; Broad Microsoft Involvement in Industry
Standards Initiatives

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands, Sept. 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Today at
IBC2004, the International Broadcasters Convention, Microsoft Corp.
(Nasdaq: MSFT) is highlighting a range of new broadcast technologies
and delivery solutions built for the Microsoft(R) TV Internet Protocol
Television (IPTV), Windows Media(R) 9 Series and Windows(R) CE
platforms.

Microsoft announced significant progress in its IPTV-based
initiatives, unveiling the first set-top boxes to support its IPTV
platform from Thomson.  In addition, Microsoft's Mobile and Embedded
Devices Division announced eight additional original equipment
manufacturers (OEMs) that will use Windows CE to power their IP
set-top boxes.

Microsoft's Windows Digital Media Division announced that leading
product vendors will demonstrate end-to-end, high-definition (HD)
encoding and playback solutions using Microsoft Windows Media 9
Series, showcasing real-time software- and hardware-based HD encoding
solutions, as well as Microsoft's gaining momentum in standards
development organizations.

IPTV Gains Momentum, Powered by Microsoft TV and Windows CE

The Microsoft TV Division has developed an end-to-end IPTV software
platform that enables broadband network operators to deliver better TV
services and connected experiences across devices in the home using
their existing and next-generation networks. Leading network operators
worldwide, including Bell Canada, Reliance Infocomm Ltd., SBC
Communications Inc. and Swisscom/Bluewin, plan to test and deploy
next-generation pay-TV services based on the Microsoft TV IPTV
platform. At IBC2004, Microsoft is showcasing its leadership in the
growing IPTV industry with announcements of partner deployment
progress and demonstrations of the platform integrated with technology
from leading vendors that are working to make IPTV a reality. In
addition, Microsoft and Thomson are announcing availability of the
first IPTV-enabled set-top boxes for Microsoft's current IPTV
customers, and TANDBERG Television is unveiling the first
demonstration of its EN5920 real-time hardware encoder integrated with
the Microsoft TV IPTV platform.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=43610567

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:16:21 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CDT Urges Caution on Wiretap Mandates for Internet


Testifying before the House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the
Internet, CDT executive Director Jim Dempsey warned that the FBI is
the wrong agency to put in charge of technology design for the
broadband Internet, and that the 1994 CALEA statute is the wrong
framework for addressing law enforcement concerns about tapping
communications over the Internet. September 08, 2004

CDT Testimony, September 08, 2004: 
http://www.cdt.org/testimony/20040908dempsey.shtml

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:18:23 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CDT Policy Post 10.14: Federal Court Strikes Down Pennsylvania


A Briefing On Public Policy Issues Affecting Civil Liberties Online
from The Center For Democracy and Technology

(1) Federal Court Strikes Down Pennsylvania Law That Blocks Innocent
    Web Sites

(2) Court Decision Issued in Legal Challenge Filed by CDT, ACLU

(3) Pennsylvania Child Pornography Statute Raised Legal and Technical
    Problems

(4) Child Pornography Deserves More Effective and Focused Law
    Enforcement Efforts

http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_10.14.shtml

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:34:09 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Spammers Hijack Sender ID


Microsoft's E-mail-filter technology, Sender ID, is unpopular with
open-source advocates but popular with spammers, who are using it to
bypass other filters.

By Thomas Claburn

On the heels of the repudiation of Microsoft's Sender ID
E-mail-authentication scheme last week by two major open-source
software groups, spammers are doing the opposite: They're embracing
the very standard intended to curb their abuses.

According to E-mail security vendor MX Logic Inc., spammers are trying
to make their messages appear more legitimate by adopting the Sender
Policy Framework (SPF), which recently became part of Microsoft's
Sender ID proposal. To comply with Sender ID, companies publish a list
of authorized E-mail servers for the domains they control. That list
is used by those receiving E-mail to make sure the purported server of
origin matches the one listed in the message header. Because spammers
may forge header information to disguise the origin of their messages,
their spam would fail this test.

But since spamming is legal, those spammers not engaged in phishing or
other fraud may choose to accurately identify their mail servers to
avoid filtering based on Sender ID compliance. And that seems to be
what's happening. Based on a sample of 400,000 spam messages, MX Logic
found that 16% had published SPF records.

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=47102042

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:41:27 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EPIC Alert 11.17


=======================================================================
                             E P I C  A l e r t
=======================================================================
Volume 11.17                                         September 10, 2004
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                              Published by the
                Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
                              Washington, D.C.

             http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.17.html

======================================================================
Table of Contents
======================================================================

[1] EPIC Files Briefs in Support of Driver and Financial Privacy
[2] Bill Introduced to Make 9/11 Commission Recommendations Law
[3] Census Bureau Revamps Policy on Data Sharing
[4] EPIC Files Comments on Use of Voter Social Security Numbers
[5] Bush Establishes Civil Liberties Board
[6] News in Brief
[7] EPIC Bookstore: Your Evil Twin
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events


http://www.epic.org/alert/EPIC_Alert_11.17.html

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:43:14 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: EFFector 17.33: Misguided Copyright Bill Moving Through Congress


EFFector  Vol. 17, No. 33  September 10, 2004  donna@eff.org

A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation
ISSN 1062-9424

In the 305th Issue of EFFector:

  * Misguided Copyright Bill Moving Through Congress
  * EFF Files Brief in Email Privacy Case: Councilman Case
    Should Be Heard Before Full Court
  * Log Not, Subpoena Not: No-Logging Policy Helps Indymedia
    Protect Free Speech
  * Maryland E-voting Update - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
  * Only 54 Days Until the Election - Register to Vote Now!
  * MiniLinks (14): Save Betamax by Calling Out the Induce Act
  * Administrivia

http://www.eff.org/effector/17/33.php

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From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Re: TXU to Link Customers' Rates to Scores
Organization: Roamer1 Communications
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:43:40 GMT


On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:12:19 -0400, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

> DALLAS (AP) -- TXU Energy, the largest electric utility in Texas, will
> peg some customers' rates to their credit scores, charging them more
> if they have fallen behind on telephone, power or cable television
> bills in the past.

The thing is -- for the most part, utilities don't report regular
payment histories to credit reporting agencies; they typically only
report charged-off accounts.  No electric, natural gas, cable TV,
satellite TV, local telephone, long distance, or wireless phone
provider I've ever used has reported anything, with one exception:
AT&T does report payment history for stand-alone calling card accounts
(i.e., those not associated with a 1+ long distance account.)

Here in Georgia, where natural gas service was deregulated in Atlanta
Gas Light service areas, some natural gas marketers -- including the
one I use -- impose a higher "customer service charge" (one of the
three elements of most natural gas bills here, the other two being
pass-through "base charges" from AGL for use of AGL's pipes and
charges from the marketer for actual gas consumption) on those with
poor credit, but don't charge a higher per-therm rate on "standard"
plans.  Some special rate plans designed for high-usage customers are
limited to those with good credit, though.

As for telecom: most CLECs are a lot more picky than ILECs when it
comes to credit, and wireless carriers have widely differing standards
 -- it isn't at all uncommon for one carrier to require a large deposit
($300 up to $1000) from a prospective customer while another carrier
will require a smaller deposit or none at all from the same person.  A
lot of "discount" LD resellers say they check credit history, but I've
seen only one or two that actually have.


Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/

"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some CLECs, like our own Prairie Stream
Commnications here in Independence have a different approach.  Duane,
the owner of Prairie Stream said to me he 'lets' SBC run his credit
checks for him (!). He hates to bother with that effort and expense
himself, so he no longer takes 'walk in, off the street'
customers. All he accepts are people who already have SBC on their
home or office phones who wish to be converted to Prairie Stream (at a
much lower rate, of course.) He says that as long as SBC had the phone
turned on for the party he accepts them as transfers in. I asked him
if that did not mean he still would get occassional 'marginal
customers' of people who were slow paying SBC but had not yet been cut
off by SBC. He said not usually, since SBC refuses his conversion
requests when the party owes SBC more than a month past due, which SBC
claims is their right. He said that suits him okay anyway, and said
"its like a win-win situation. The subscriber gets a good deal from me
at a cheaper rate and can keep his 620-331 number (under portability
rules); I am assured of getting my money; and SBC gets to keep the
deadbeats." So in essence SBC does his credit checks for him. Oh, and
I *still* get 'we want you back' letters from SBC every couple months
or so, each deal they offer to get me back is more outrageous (in my
favor) than their previous offers. PAT] 

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:37:07 -0400
From: Jack Decker <anonfwd774@deleted on request>
Subject: Re: Congress Hangs Up on VoIP for 2004


Pat, please withhold my e-mail address as usual.  By the way, for some
reason I did not receive two consecutive issues of the Digest in
e-mail, and had to go to your web site to read them, which is the
reason my response to this post is a bit delayed.

On 9 Sep 2004 09:28:25 -0700, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
wrote:

> Jack Decker <withheld at user request> wrote in message: 

>> There you go again, Lisa.  Does your memory only retain information
>> for a month or so

> When a poster resorts to rude comments like this, it means they have
> no rational argument.

No, Lisa, it does not mean that at all.  It means that the poster is
getting frustrated that you choose to use my messages as a springboard
to promulgate your faulty logic.  It was not my intent to be
deliberately rude, only to point out that ever so often you come forth
with your nonsense, I rebut it, and a month later you're back saying
the same thing (and AGAIN replying to one of my posts).  In any case,
I feel I have made a very rational argument, the "rude comments" were
just a free extra.

> Whether you like it or not, the fact is that VOIP is getting a free
> ride by avoiding the taxes and regulatory burdens other telephone
> carriers have to make.  Either eliminate all obligations from
> everyone, or make everyone bear there.

That is NOT a fact.  It is your opinion, and it is based on faulty
logic.  In the first place, even cell phone companies do not have the
same regulatory burdens as are imposed on landline phone companies.
In fact, even among wireline companies, large ILEC's, small ILEC's,
and CLEC's all have somewhat different regulatory burdens.  In
attempting to make your point, you keep trying to gloss over the fact
that "other telephone carriers" (and there is still a very open
question of whether a VoIP company should even be considered a
"telephone carrier") do not share one unified set of regulatory
burdens.

> Now understand I am most certainly NOT saying you represent sleazy
> businesses.  What I am saying is that if we had you and someone who
> WAS being paid to advocate sleazy businessess standing side by side,
> it would be hard to tell the difference between them, at least from
> what they were advocating re: VoIP.  It's that whole duck test thing
> -- at a distance something could look like a duck and appear to waddle
> like a duck, but the possibility exists that it might be a goose or
> some other duck-like bird.  [I hope you don't mind I borrowed your
> prose from your 8/5/04 note--it seems to work well in this context.]

Well if you are going to reference that message, let's quote what was
said in context.  You wrote:

> I am not connected with the phone company nor do I consider myself
> a "shill" for them.

And I replied:

> Lisa, you may not consider yourself a shill for them, but if one were
> to apply the "duck test"... well, let's just say that sometimes it
> would be awfully hard to discern the difference between what you write
> and what a shill for the phone company might write .

Note that I did NOT infer that you were involved in anything "sleazy."
So when you refer to "sleazy businesses", I assume that's your opinion
of VoIP companies and you are saying that I sound like I'm being paid
to represent them, which of course I am not.  But you see, that's the
basic difference between you and I.  Because if I were to look at the
history of VoIP and the history of the ILEC's, I'll bet I could find a
lot more reasons to apply the label "sleazy businesses" to the large
incumbent phone companies.  Just here in Michigan there have been a
number of cases where one of the incumbents has outright lied to
customers or potential customers.

"Sleazy businesses" that also happen to be monopolies need to be
regulated because without regulation, they would gouge their
customers, for example by adding on services that the customer didn't
order and doesn't want (know of any companies that have ever done
that?).  Now I am NOT saying that every VoIP company is sleaze free,
in fact I'm aware of one or two that in my PERSONAL opinion are more
sleazy than even any of the ILEC's (these are small companies that
relatively few people have heard of - wonder why?).  But the
difference is that there is active and vigorous competition in the
VoIP marketplace, and when one company does wrong by their customers,
those customers have the option to switch to another provider, and to
warn others about their bad experiences (as often happens in the VoIP
forum on BroadbandReports.com).

It is not my intent to have this discussion degrade into personal
attacks, so I apologize if you felt my comments were rude.  However I
would ask that you have the courtesy to not keep responding to my
posts as a way of making the same old tired arguments.  I get no joy
from responding to your tirades, but I just feel as though I can't let
your assertions go unchallenged, especially when you attempt to
present them as fact rather than your opinion, and especially when
you're following up to one of my posts.

------------------------------

From: pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader)
Subject: Re: My New DVR From Cable One
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:32:15 -0000
Organization: Inline Software Creations


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I was told by CableOne (and perhaps I 
> should have questioned them further, but it didn't really matter to me)
> that most or all 'conventional, over the cable recording systems such
> as TiVo' would not allow recording of many or most movies which had
> restrictions on them.'  

I figured it was something like that. You were lied to. *

* PV   something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
       like corkscrews.

------------------------------

From: burgerwars@yahoo.com (burgerwars)
Subject: AT&T CallVantage VOIP Service - Area Code Choices
Date: 10 Sep 2004 11:36:49 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I just signed up for CallVantage.  $19.95 a month for six months, plus
an early termination fee ($59.95).  Reason why I signed up with them
instead of Vonage was just because they were able to supply me with a
212 area code number.  Vonage could not, and would not.  Anyone think
I could transfer the CallVantage number to another VOIP service (like
back to Vonage or Lingo) or a cell phone, after my $19.95 six month
offer is up?

------------------------------

From: Withheld on Request (BillTurlok)
Date: 11 Sep 2004 00:24:12 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: AT&T - What a Bad Company Are You!


[ Patrick-- PLEASE DO NOT USE ANY PART OF MY E-MAIL ADDRESS WHEN
POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE DIGEST & NEWSGROUP. The last time I
posted, you left my address vulnerable and I had to change ISPs go
get away from the spam. Thank you. Bill]

> In article <telecom23.422.6@telecom-digest.org>,
> critica_todo@yahoo.com says:

>> AT&T what a bad company are you!

Friend of mine has AT&T WorldNet dial-up 'Net access. $19.95 for 150
hours/mo.

So, one day about two years ago, he dials in and gets a log-in
failure. Well, since this has happened before ...

He was in IT in a major hospital chain and worked directly for
Dilbert's boss.  He got so fed up, was losing his hair and having
stomach problems, one day he just went into the boss's office and laid
a resignation letter on him. And walked out. Without a parachute. Of
any color. Herein lies the problem -- you don't wanna be in your mid
50's looking for a job in any field, let alone IT in the middle of a
dot-com bust and recession.

So, from time to time, he gets just a little behind with some of his
bills, but this was not one of them. So, he calls in to see WTF.

After the usual run-around in Voice Jail, he gets someone who tells
him he's got an unpaid long distance bill with ATT.

But, says he, I don't have AT&T long distance, and haven't had for
some time.

Well, she says, this one's from 2-3 years ago. He says he doesn't
remember leaving anything unpaid from that era, but they're
insistent. He must pay the $1.65 (One U.S. Dollar and 65 cents) before
they'll turn his internet back on.

OK, he says, send me a bill. Well, they say, we can't because you're
not an AT&T (LD) customer. But you can pay it with a credit card
 ... He laffs -- he's shredded all his plastic a long time ago. Catch-22.

Well, too bad, they say.

But ... they allow, if you'd sign up for AT&T long distance, we could
put it on your bill and send it to you, and turn you back on right
now.

OK, says he, what kinda' plan you got where there's _no_ monthly
charge for anything?

Well we do have one like that, but it's 35 cents/min. That's ok, he
says, I'm not planning on making any calls anyway.

So, they sign him up, and in _that_ process, he gets shuttled to
another "customer service representative". She says, now that you're
an AT&T LD customer, would you like to sign up for our internet
access?

Ummmmm ... ok ... how much would that be? 

Just $15.95/mo for unlimited access.

Ohhhh Kaaay. You know and I know that they just pulled this "bill" out
of their butts -- they're making it all up. It's cheesy and it's sleazy
and it's illegal and it's immoral and it's just plain wrong and they
all ought to go to jail.  But at least they managed to shoot
themselves in the foot with this one.  They're going to lose any
advantage in the first month's bill.

Assuming they don't screw up the billing. Again. Fat chance.

Oh, one little ray of sunshine. Things had got so bad for him he had
to cash in all of his investments just to pay his living expenses and
mortgage. A couple of years ago he was pissin' and moanin' about
having to bail out of all his WorldCom. At $99.00/share. Ya' gotta'
love it.

            ::::::::::::::::::::::

I wrote that when it was current, a few years ago. Update:

They did it again!!

This time as well as making up phony LD charges, they (contrary to
his instructions and his understanding) put him in a plan _with_ a
monthly charge, then failed to bill him, then cut off his 'net access,
let his (now unserviced) net account get in arrears. And they won't
let him pay with a check number 'cause he "doesn't have an account
with them", or "it's not the right kind of account".

Surely you remember that ATT wants out of the residential business --
they're going to dump it via "attrition". See above for example of
ATTrition.

Bill

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Its just incredible how bad AT&T has
gotten in the past few years in their customer service. Maybe a year
ago they had commercials on television talking about unlimited local
and long distance service, but no prices were given. I called up to
inquire what unlimited service would cost me. They refused to tell me!
A very sassy young lady first wanted to know where I lived. I told
her, that's a logical question. Then she kept insisting "you are with
SBC." I told her I was not. She insisted I was, that *her* records
showed I was a customer of SBC. I told her "well, obviously I am just 
a dumb customer who does not even know who his phone service comes
through."  Then she starts quoting the rates from SBC and how her
rates will be so much better (but still no mention of what those
rates actually will be.) Then here was the real kicker: she said that
in order to 'be considered as a customer' for AT&T service, 'she would
need a one hundred dollar cash deposit *in advance*. Not a credit
card, not a check, but cash or a money order only mailed to their
office (with some long, drawn out, sixteen digit number written on 
the money order). I said no thanks, and hung up the phone. I heard
nothing further for about *four months* until one day I got in the
US Mail a letter thanking me for my 'recent inquiry for residential
service' and to send them the hundred dollar money order with the
reference number 'you were given by our representative'. Those 
people are nuts. To get my Vonage phone (cheaper and as reliable)
all I had to do was go to their web page, produce a credit card and
sign up (and the adapter box was here three days later.)  PAT]

------------------------------

From: wayne.chiang@gmail.com (baracooda)
Subject: Re: Intel Outlines Strategy for Making the Internet Smarter, Safer
Date: 10 Sep 2004 18:14:17 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.423.4@telecom-digest.org>:

> Intel Outlines Strategy for Making the Internet Smarter, Safer,
>      More Reliable and Useful
>      - Sep 9, 2004 12:15 PM (BusinessWire)

> SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 9, 2004--Intel Corporation today
> described the significant changes that need to be made to the
> Internet's architecture to make it safer, more useful, reliable and
> accessible.

> In a speech today at the Intel Developer Forum, Intel Senior Vice
> President and Chief Technology Officer Pat Gelsinger said that by
> adding an overlay network of computational services to the Internet --
> made up of computing and storage resources -- the industry could bring
> greater intelligence into and across the network core. This would
> transform the Internet from a data transmission pipe into a vast
> platform for hosting a wide array of services available to the world's
> six billion inhabitants. Gelsinger referred to this approach as the
> ability to provide planetary-scale services.

>      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=43590452

If Planetlab is the new and improved version of the Internet, maybe
this is the new and improved platform for the PC.

http://funkycoldamoeba.blogspot.com/

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From: Julian Thomas <jt@withheld on request>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:09:09 -0400
Subject: Re: More Thoughts About RCA


[Pat - please obscure my email again, thanks].


I tried to send this to Lisa (or is it Jeff??) at
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com but it failed.

In <1094853728.162.14846.m12@yahoogroups.com>, on 09/10/04 
   at 10:02 PM, telecom-news@yahoogroups.com typed:

> Subject: Re: More Thoughts About RCA
> Date: 10 Sep 2004 06:46:58 -0700
> Organization: http://groups.google.com

> Julian Thomas <jt@munged as requested> wrote: 

>>> P.S.S.  RCA made an attempt in computers; it scared the heck out of
>>> IBM because RCA had far more electronics skills than IBM did in the
>>> early 1950s.  However, RCA did not have the customer support skills
>>> of IBM and eventually RCA -- after losing big money -- sold its
>>> businss to Univac.

>> Nor did they have the mechanical skills that IBM had from their earlier
>> EAM business.  Peripherals -- especially tape drives -- suffered as a
>> consequence.

> The Campbell-Kelly book "Computer" says that IBM's very popular 1401 was
> popular because of its excellent printer -- a mechanical device --
> rather than the CPU electronics. 

> It took a heck of a long time for other manufacturers to come up with a
> line printer that matched the IBM 1403 printer's quality.

> In the Watson autobiography, he says Sarnoff came to IBM to get patents
> (that the govornment ordered IBM to release).  So, RCA used IBM know-how. 
> Also, RCA's Spectra was a copy of S/360.

I was referring more to the Bizmac series of the 1950's.  I'm sure
that by Spectra time frame they had either cross-licensed (as you
suggest), improved their own capabilities, or just plain bought other
equipment (such as the 1403).

And, for my $0.02 worth, Honeywell had tape drives on the H800 that
were far superior to the IBM 727/729 models.  I admit some bias; I
worked on the D1000 and the H800 before joining IBM in 1962.

http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/h800.html

http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/d1000.html

As far as the 1401 was concerned, in addition to the excellent quality
(and speed) of the 1403, there was also a good card handling machine
(1402), it was easy to program, and was alphanumeric across the board
(unlike the 650, which had a late-in-life kludge for handling alpha
stuff).  Electronics were SMS solid state, also a distinct improvement
over the previous tube machines.

(Further disclosure -- I have programmed the 1401, and was project
coordinator for the 1410/7010 emulator on the 360 mod 50).

For my email,  use the sig. 

 Julian Thomas:   jt at jt-mj dot net    http://jt-mj.net
 In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State!
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From: phoephus@hotmail.com (Joe Bartoldus)
Subject: For Sale: Panasonic KXTG4000B Phone System w/ cordless $300.00 Mint
Date: 10 Sep 2004 21:42:39 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Poster is not the seller, please reply to:

Email info@planetvinc.com with questions, or call 212-253-1788, ext.4#

Planet V Closing Sale: http://www.planetvinc.com/sale

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: PayPal to Levy Fines for Gambling, Porn
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:21:14 EDT


The new policy, which takes effect Sept. 24 and applies to both buyers
and sellers, marks the first time PayPal has imposed fines for
violations of its use policy, spokeswoman Amanda Pires said.

In addition to fines that could be applied to each violation, PayPal
may take legal action to recover losses in excess of the fines, Pires
said in an interview.

PayPal processes transactions on the Net and at one time had received
almost 10 percent of its revenue from online gambling. But it halted
the practice under regulatory pressure after its acquisition by eBay
in 2002 and now prohibits the processing of gambling and adult
transactions. Now it has decided to enforce that policy with fines.

"What you're seeing here is an evolution of our program.  We're trying
to deter people who would offer PayPal as a way to pay for anything in
these categories," said Pires in an interview.

Under the new policy, prescription drug sellers who do not have
Verified Internet Pharmacy Practice Sites certification from the
National Association of Boards of Pharmacy, and the people who buy
from them, also face fines and possible legal action if they do
business using PayPal.

Pires said the changes were not in response to any sort of
pressure from regulators.

Eric Jackson, a former PayPal executive and author of the new book
"The PayPal Wars," had a different view.

He called the new policy "draconian" and said it was likely a two-fold
strategy to discourage certain behavior while heading off regulators.

"I can only surmise that PayPal is coming under increasing regulatory
pressure and has no choice at this point but to take an aggressive
posture," Jackson said.

"I think they're making an emphatic statement that they're making a
clean break from gambling in particular," he said.

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001>
Subject: U.S. Judge Rejects Law to Block Child Porn on Web
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:25:50 EDT


Judge Jan Dubois, of the U.S. court for the Eastern District of
Pennsylvania, found that the law was unconstitutional because
technology used to block the sites would also prevent users from
accessing sites that had nothing to do with child pornography.

"With the current state of technology, the act cannot be implemented
without excessive blocking of innocent speech in violation of the
First Amendment," the judge wrote.

The decision could set a national precedent on Internet regulation,
said John Morris, staff counsel for the Center for Democracy and
Technology, a Washington-based advocacy group that brought the suit
against Pennsylvania Attorney General Jerry Pappert.

The other plaintiff was the American Civil Liberties Union.

"This will send a strong message across to other states that were
looking at this case," Morris said. Maryland, New Jersey and Oklahoma
have been considering similar laws, he said.  

Federal courts including the U.S. Supreme Court have several times
rejected efforts to curb online pornography, as violations of
constitutional free-speech protections.

Morris said the attorney general's office secretly issued orders
during 2002 and 2003 that told Internet providers to block access to
Web server computers that hosted about 400 child porn sites.

In the course of implementing the Internet Child Pornography Act,
passed in 2002, the providers were forced to deny access to over 1
million other sites that were legitimate, he said.

"It's as if the U.S. Postal Service would stop delivering mail to an
entire apartment building because one of the residents was accused of
doing something illegal," Morris said.

But Sean Connolly, a spokesman for Pappert, argued that the technology
existed to block access to individual Web sites, and that if
legitimate sites were also blocked during the state's enforcement
action, it was because the Internet providers were not using the
technology properly.

"We're disappointed," Connolly said. "We believe the law works well
and we're now reviewing the judge's decision before deciding whether
to ask the court to reconsider or to appeal." 

The court ruling is unlikely to make child pornography any more
available, Morris argued, because the law was largely ineffective in
preventing it. Such sites often move between different server
computers, and users employ software that disguises their identity, a
technique that makes the blocking technology ineffective, he said.

Most of the legitimate U.S.-based Web sites overcame the blocking by
moving to other servers, although an estimated half-million foreign
based sites that were blocked by the law are still inaccessible,
Morris said.

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