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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:10:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 356

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Group Warns DVRs Endangered  (Monty Solomon)
    Attention, Shoppers: You Can Speed Straight Through Checkout (M Solomon)
    FBI CALEA Petition on FCC Agenda for August 4 (Jack Decker)
    Telco Video & VOIP Stakes Rising (Jack Decker)
    Grand Haven, Michigan, Cuts the Cord (Jack Decker)
    AT&T CallVantage (2000)
    Re: 911, Only Simple 911 at Best (Jack)
    Re: 911, Only Simple 911 at Best (Fritz Whittington)
    Vonage Compared to AT&T CallVantage? (Chip G)
    Anyone Using Avaya Communication Manager API? (Chip G)
    Re: Bare-Bones DNC Coverage Draws Lower Ratings (Paul Coxwell)
    Re: How Does Vonage Sound (Rob Levandowski)
    Re: Dial 411 for a Category Search (Joseph)
    Re: PayPal Notice of Pendency: Class Action; Proposed Settle (Joseph)
    Re: Cell Phones Using Wi-Fi; How Will Hotspots Cope? (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Telecommunications: Blogs, Bloggers, and Blogging (Day Bird Loft)
    New Jersey Labor Board page for NorVergence Employees (David Rodriguez)
    Problem With Recycled Cell-Phone Numbers (jmayson@nyx.net)
    Re: Last Laugh! Interesting Origins (Henry)
    Re: Last Laugh! Interesting Origins - Ship High In Transit (Jack Adams)
    Re: Last Laugh! Interesting Origins (Bill Turlock)

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:48:49 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Group Warns DVRs Endangered 


By Katie Dean

Television fans who like to choose when and where they watch their
favorite programs are in for a rude awakening next year when new copy
controls encoded in digital television streams will limit such
freedoms.

Broadcasters have been steadily moving from broadcasting content in
analog to digital format over the past several years, as required by
the Telecommunications Act of 1996. To protect this digital content
from piracy, the Federal Communications Commission adopted a rule that
digital television tuners recognize copy controls, called the
broadcast flag (PDF), encoded in content streams. Digital
video-recording devices would detect the broadcast flag, and the flag
would prevent users from making multiple high-quality copies of the
programs for illegal distribution. As of July 1, 2005, it would be
illegal to manufacture or import devices that can receive digital
programming without responding to the broadcast flag.

To fight the impending rule and to stoke backlash from TV viewers, the
Electronic Frontier Foundation earlier this month launched the Digital
Television Liberation Project to guide people on how to make their own
personal video recorders from off-the-shelf parts. The digital-rights
group is encouraging people to buy digital TV, or DTV, tuner cards for
their PCs, and is distributing instructions on how to build TiVo-like
digital video recorders. The idea is to get people hooked on the
charms of time-shifting -- recording a program and then watching it at
a later time -- and to help them understand what they would be missing
once the broadcast flag rule goes into effect.

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,64309,00.html
 
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:05:11 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Attention, Shoppers: You Can Now Speed Straight Through Checkout


Radio-frequency chips are retail nirvana. They're the end of privacy.
They're the mark of the beast. Inside the tag-and-track supermarket of
the future.

By Josh McHugh
Issue 12.07 - July 2004

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/shoppers.html

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:59:03 -0400
Subject: FBI CALEA Petition on FCC Agenda for August 4
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


This is from The Jeff Pulver Blog at:
http://192.246.69.231/jeff/personal/index.html

July 29, 2004 

FBI CALEA Petition on FCC Agenda for August 4

The August 4th FCC Meeting may be a historic one, now that the
FBI/DOJ/DEA CALEA Petition has made it to the meeting agenda.

The FCC's ruling on this petition will have a direct effect on the
state of IP Communications in the US and will influence pending the
VoIP legislation in the House and Senate.

Posted by jeff at 10:13 AM

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:21 -0400
Subject: Telco Video & VOIP Stakes Rising
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.boardwatch.com/document.asp?doc_id=57021

Traditional telcos are gearing up for the battle of the century, and
triple-play service over DSL is the main weapon of choice, according
to new research from Heavy Reading, Light Reading's research
service.

The capability to build and deploy new services such as VOIP and video
over copper networks is already here, thanks in part to vast
improvements in DSL technology. And with the cable competition coming
fast, telcos see their DSL triple-play strategies as the key to this
fight, according to the report -- Telco Triple Play: the DSL
Imperative.

Already this week, financial results have backed up this view. Service
provider Goliath Verizon Communications Inc. (NYSE: VZ) logged a solid
quarter this week, citing DSL services as one of its new engines of
growth to counter the erosion of legacy voice services (see Verizon
Boosted by DSL, Wireless).

Heavy Reading says this is likely to be an acclerating trend in 2004
and 2005, given that the largest local providers in the U.S. are only
just now starting to realize the business benefits of a long-term
investment in broadband. They're now likely to focus on more
revenue per broadband customer, through the bundling of new services
such as video and VOIP.

What's driving the new urgency? Quite simply, competition. VOIP and
broadband services have driven the collision betwween cable MSOs
(multiple systems operators) and traditional telcos, a war that's
likely to grow more intense in the next few months.

Full story at:
http://www.boardwatch.com/document.asp?doc_id=57021

How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:47:30 -0400
Subject: [VoIP News] Grand Haven, Michigan, Cuts the Cord
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://wifinetnews.com/archives/004039.html

Grand Haven, Mich., makes splash with full-city Wi-Fi coverage: This
seems like yet another city announcement, but it might be the first
city with this scale of access that 100-percent live and commercially
available. (Dissenters, please write in.) While there are plans for
Cerritos, Santa Clara, and Chaska (Minnesota) to have full coverage,
Grand Haven may have beaten them to full deployment.

The folks at Ottawa Wireless sent out a press release full of the
technical details, such as their support for 802.11a, b, and g, and
the fact that their service extends 15 miles into Lake Michigan,
providing access for boaters and marinas. The coverage extends six
square miles across the town, and its optimized to handle VoIP; a
beta test is in progress right now that will cost $30 per month for
unlimited calling nationwide.

The service has 300 subscribers at its formal launch out of a local
population of 12,000. However, the town sees two million -- yes,
million -- visitors a year. Customers include the city, and public
safety and health groups will eventually use the network.

[Comment: And I think about 1½ million of those visitors all try to
jam into the town during the Coast Guard Festival the first part of
August.  That would create problems in any small town, but Grand Haven
is basically surrounded on three sides by water (Lake Michigan on the
west, the Grand River on the north and east) and there is only ONE
aging drawbridge across the river, and every so often it gets stuck
open and you have to go about 15 miles east-southeast to get to the
next river crossing at Allendale.  US-31 goes right through the center
of the city but it is a divided highway with traffic lights; there are
plans to build an expressway bypass that would go to the east of the
city but the Granholm administration temporarily put that project on
hold, virtually assuring something close to gridlock conditions
continue to exist during the Coast Guard Festival for the foreseeable
future.]

Full story at:
http://wifinetnews.com/archives/004039.html

------------------------------

From: 2000@osaf.org (2000)
Subject: AT&T CallVantage
Date: 29 Jul 2004 12:24:26 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


AT&T CallVantage (broadband phone) service does not support Motorola
and Siemens phones.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:07:02 -0400
From: Jack <anonfwd774@address withheld
Subject: Re: 911, Only Simple 911 at Best


Pat, please conceal my e-mail address.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:15:13 GMT, Mike Donnelly
<mikedonREMOVETHIS@mc.net> wrote:

> charlie@cdsdetroit.com (charlie3) wrote in
> news:telecom23.353.10@telecom-digest.org: 

>> Cell phones have been around for years and have similar
>> problems to VOIP phones; more and more cell phones and VOIP
>> phones are going into use and many will replace traditional
>> copperline phones, regardless of 911 concerns.  Public
>> officials will find solutions to 911 calls originating from
>> cell and internet phones. 

>> I'm simply no longer willing to pay for a 100 year old POTS
>> phone when I can get five times the functionality and
>> unlimited US minutes for a lower price from Vonage.  With a
>> cell phone for backup my internet phone does not have
>> perform exactly like a traditional phone. 

> Hope you never need emergency services any time in the near 
> future. 

You know, every time I read a comment like this, my gut reaction is to
want to strangle the writer (figuratively speaking, of course).  First
for the obvious reason that he is trying to impose his own sense of
values on others, but also because it's such a pathetically stupid
statement.

I mean, to me people who say things like this sound like they want us
to live in a rubber room with a 100% reliable phone with a big red
speed dial button programmed for "911."  One could just as easily say
"I hope you never go outside to check your mail without taking a
cordless phone along" or "I hope you never decide to take a walk in
the woods."  The point I am making, in case it isn't obvious, is that
(if we are reasonably normal people) we ALL have times -- and probably
many more than we think about -- where we are NOT near enough to a
telephone that it would do us any good if we had a heart attack or
some other emergency.

I don't have a wireless phone (in my situation I really have no
pressing need for one).  I sometimes take walks in the woods, I go out
to the outside shed and putz around or do some task outside, and I
never have a phone with me and am often out of view of anyone else.
Oh the horror, I might have a heart attack and not be able to call
911!  Well you know what, if that's my time to go, it's my time to go,
and I don't need any goody two-shoes know-it-alls trying to tell me
that I am being irresponsible by not having the level of communica-
tions that they think I should have.

In fact, people like that sometimes almost make me wish I could check
out a bit sooner.  If they succeed in making the world a perfectly
safe place to live, but one in which you have no options left because
someone else has dictated all aspects of how you must live, why would
I want to keep on living?  I don't know about anyone else, but I
couldn't escape a world like that fast enough!  I'm just waiting for
these people to start trying to get "unsafe" recreational activities
banned, like hang-gliding or rock climbing or motorcycling or any of
the hundreds of other things people enjoy doing but that have the
potential to get them killed.

> BTW, what happens to VOIP when there is a power outage? Is there
> anything similar to "lifeline service"? My 100 year old POTS phone
> still works. I know because I have had to use it several times during
> outages.

Bully for you. No one is asking you to give up your 100 year old POTS
phone if that's what floats your boat.  But you have absolutely no
right to decide that I or anyone else needs to have that level of
service.  I don't WANT to be 100% safe 100% of the time. A life like
that would be boring as hell, not to mention that the cost of living
would be far higher.

What about the Amish people who don't even have telephones, nor for
that matter cars to drive to a hospital at 70 MPH in an emergency?
Would you be the one to tell them that they need to conform to your
acceptable way of living?

If I, or anyone else wants to have phone service from VoicePulse or
Vonage or any of those companies, and we know what the limitations of
911 are and are willing to accept them, it is none of your damn
business!  Take your finger-wagging to someplace where it's
appreciated, though I cannot imagine where that might be.

Sorry if the above seems a bit strong, but sometimes I just get really
sick of hearing from people who want to suck all the LIFE out of
living because all they can think about is safety, and not only for
themselves, but they want to pass their obsession on to others.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well Jack, the possible, but unlikely
problem of 'what to do in an emergency when all you have is Vonage'
is just a red herring anyway. The main problem with so many of those
people is that they are shills for an old, dying method of communi-
cations where 'the telephone company' is the be-all, end-all way of
doing business. They have such a love affair with POTS;  a system
which won't die soon enough IMO.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Fritz Whittington <f.whittington@att.net>
Subject: Re: 911, Only Simple 911 at Best
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:48:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


On or about 2004-07-28 13:15, Mike Donnelly whipped out a trusty #2 
pencil and scribbled:

> charlie@cdsdetroit.com (charlie3) wrote in
> news:telecom23.353.10@telecom-digest.org: 

>> Cell phones have been around for years and have similar
>> problems to VOIP phones; more and more cell phones and VOIP
>> phones are going into use and many will replace traditional
>> copperline phones, regardless of 911 concerns.  Public
>> officials will find solutions to 911 calls originating from
>> cell and internet phones. 

>> I'm simply no longer willing to pay for a 100 year old POTS
>> phone when I can get five times the functionality and
>> unlimited US minutes for a lower price from Vonage.  With a
>> cell phone for backup my internet phone does not have
>> perform exactly like a traditional phone. 

> Hope you never need emergency services any time in the near 
> future. 

> BTW, what happens to VOIP when there is a power outage? Is there
> anything similar to "lifeline service"? My 100 year old POTS phone
> still works. I know because I have had to use it several times during
> outages.


> Mike Donnelly

My POTS phones were out for 6 hours this morning, along with the
electric service. That's because in my neighborhood, groups of a few
blocks are served by an ONU (Optical Network Unit) in the alley.  It's
basically a mini-CO with a fiber connection back to the traditional
CO.  Done because there is so much demand for copper pairs that don't
exist.  (The upside is, I could have a great xDSL connection, since
I'm only 300 feet from the CO.  Downside is having to pay a one-time
fee of $200 for SBC to install a DSL modem at the ONU.)  In any case,
this whole ONU CO runs off of the regular power lines, so if the
transformer running it quits, so does your phone.  Oddly, we still had
battery on the line, because they use real batteries in the ONU so you
don't get hum.  But there's no dial tone.  That's why we have one cell
phone for each person in the house.  Well, one of the reasons, anyway.

------------------------------

From: Chip G <NOSPAMchipg_98@ATyahoo.TODELETE.com>
Subject: Vonage Compared to AT&T CallVantage?
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:00:25 GMT


I recently received solicitation from AT&T to join their CallVantage
program which appears to be similar to the Vonage offering. I am
trying to decide which (if either to try). If you have experience with
both of these and could provide commentary, I would truly appreciate
your insights.

Thank you,

Chip


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: First of all, I do hand out Vonage
e-coupons for a month of free service. I don't come anywhere close
to earning a living from it, so I hope that does not cloud what I
say here. But regards Vonage customer service, I have never caught 
them lying to me or trying to stall me or prod me for personal infor-
mation. With AT&T on the other hand, with their audacious voicemail
hell system (you never ever get the same rep twice), I have had them
lie to me, pry for personal information, insist I did not know what
I was talking about, tell me I did not know who my local phone company
was or how much I had to pay, etc. They in most cases refuse to
discuss their service unless you tell them your local phone number 
first (an unlimited, blanket plan should be an unlimited blanket
plan; what difference does it make *who* my local carrier is), and
they are just like SBC in the sense that one rep makes you promises
on something then the next rep denies ever hearing of such a plan.
Do as you wish, but for what little phone service I need these days,
Vonage works just fine.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Chip G <NOSPAMchipg_98@ATyahoo.TODELETE.com>
Subject: Anyone Using Avaya Communication Manager API?
Organization: Comcast Online
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:00:26 GMT


I am considering shifting my application development efforts from
TSAPI to the new Avaya CMAPI since all of my business seems to be with
Avaya switches lately. Does anyone have experience with the CMAPI?
Please let me know what your take is on it. I know TSAPI works with
multi-vendor systems and the CMAPI only works with Avaya but it seems
like CMAPI opens up a lot of capability that I have wanted but not
been able to get from TSAPI.

Here is all the info I have found so far about the CMAPI. If you have
any other info, please post it or send it to me.

http://www1.avaya.com/enterprise/sig/devconnect/cmapi.html

Thanks!

Chip

------------------------------

From: Paul Coxwell <paulcoxwell@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Bare-Bones DNC Coverage Draws Lower Ratings
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:41:20 +0100


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I remember very well the 1952
> conventions, which were the first ones to be on television. We
> had four TV channels in those days in Chicago (2-5-7-9) or maybe
> it was 4-5-7-9, I don't remember, but in any event they had total
> coverage on all four channels afternoon and evening sessions each
> of the four days of the convention. There was nothing else to
> watch even if you had wanted to. PAT]

Pat,

It looks as though station WBKB was on channel 4 around that time.

I found this rather fascinating site on the history of TV in the Chicago
area:

www.chicagotelevision.com

Regards,

Paul

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, there was a channel 4 in Chicago
in the early 1950's, and no channel 2. Then eventually Channel 2
started as WBBM-TV, and Channel 4 was taken away and given to the
Milwaukee Journal newspaper where it became WTMJ and what had been on
Channel 4 (WENR) then became WBKB; Balaban and Katz movie theatre
chain) operating on Channel 7.  Channel 5 remained on 5 as the NBC
outlet in Chicago, and Channel 9 was (and still is) WGN, since the
Chicago Tribune is and always was the (W)orld's (G)reatest (N)ews-
paper. No one would hear of Channel 11 -PBS- (W)indow (T)o (T)he
(W)orld for a few more years, until it went on the air about 1955 as
an exhibit at the Museum of Science and Industry, broadcasting five or
six hours from the auditorium of the museum Monday through Friday.

A couple years prior to the 1952 politcal conventions which were full
time coverage on all channels daily, they had a similar commotion on
television daily on all channels for several *months* without
interuption: the 1950 'Senator McCarthy Hearings'. Those damn things
went on five days per week from about 9 AM Central to around 3 PM
central time, with a break for lunch around noon central, at which
point channel 9 would run 'Bozo Circus' for about 30-45 minutes then
back to the McCarthy hearings. Joe McCarthy, as older readers will
recall, was the deluded Republican Senator from Wisconsin who found
'Communists' everywere he looked and in his daily congressional
hearings must have grilled and interogated every public servant in
Washington, DC. His belief was everyone working for the federal
government was either a 'Communist' or a homosexual or both which he
said was often the case.

One thing we could count on was McCarthy recessing his lurid
Congressional hearings each day about 3 central/4 eastern when he
grew bored and wanted to get on with his own life which meant going
out to cruise all the gay bars (in those days) in Our Nation's
Capitol. McCarthy and his foolishness has been well documented in 
many places. Then the television stations could get back to their
regular programming. Poor Senator McCarthy ... deluded old man.

When Channel 11 first started broadcasting they were on Monday to
Friday only, I think a few hours each afternoon with classroom lessons
for school kids. They were dark -- off the air -- on weekends with 
the exception of Sunday evening from 7:55 PM to 9:05 PM. They would
turn on their power at 7:55 PM, play the National Anthem, and the
announcer would give their call sign and say, "Now, this weeks program
 from Chicago Sunday Evening Club at Orchestra Hall." After that 
religious service ended at 9 PM, the same announcer would come back
on and sign the station off the air with the obligitory announcements
about station, owner, frequency, power, etc and again the National
Anthem. They stayed at Museum of Science and Industry until the early
or middle 1960's when one of their major patrons, Edward L. Ryerson,
then chairman of Inland Steel Company gave them money to build the
'Edward Ryerson Television Center' on the campus of Northern Illinois
University on the northwest side of Chicago. With their move to NIU
and the Ryerson Television Center, WTTW went on the air full time and
their original weekend program (Sunday Evening Club) is still with
them.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Rob Levandowski <robl@macwhiz.com>
Subject: Re: How Does Vonage Sound
Organization: MacWhiz Technologies
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:22:47 GMT


In article <telecom23.355.5@telecom-digest.org>, poepauv@yahoo.com (Ed
Abbott) wrote:

> I'm interested in finding out how clear phone calls are via VoIP.
> Perhaps you would be willing to enlighten me.

> Anyone else who has used VoIP who would like to chime in please do so.
> I'm seriously thinking of going in this direction.

In general, the audio quality is indistinguishable from a standard
phone line.  In some cases, it's better quality, because your analog
"local loop" is six feet instead of a few miles.  Vonage seems to have
added a small amount of artificial noise since I first started using
the service -- fewer people now wonder if I've hung up if I stop
talking.

However, I do have one complaint about the call quality.  The echo
cancelling is hit-or-miss.  Some calls are just fine.  Every once in a
while, I'll have a call where I can hear the other party fine, but
when I speak, my voice is echoed back to me on about a 0.75-second
delay, sometimes at a loud volume.  The other party doesn't hear this,
but it sure can interrupt your train of thought.  If it's really bad,
hanging up and re-dialing usually fixes it.  It seems more common on
calls I place rather than calls I receive.

I believe this is an artifact of the analog-to-digital devices that
Vonage and its ilk use.  When I worked for Global Crossing, we used
the Cisco VoIP desk sets internally, and they had no such problem.

Of course, you may also have call-quality issues if you're hammering
your broadband line with other traffic.  I understand the newer Vonage
adapters are supposed to help with this.  If your router supports any
form of QoS, that may help you as well.

I've also had difficulty getting timely technical support from Vonage.
Thankfully, other than initial setup issues -- as the first person in
my exchange, I got to discover that Vonage's CLEC and the ILEC hadn't
set up call routing 'twixt each other right -- I've not had much need
to get technical support.


Rob Levandowski                         robl@macwhiz.com

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dial 411 for a Category Search
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:23:29 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com


On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:16:53 -0400, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:

>     Need a Florist in Freehold or Fort Worth? Dial 411 for a Category
>     Search

> No Need to Ask for a Specific Listing; Operators Will Offer Choices
>          Based on the Business Category and Locality

> NEWARK, N.J., July 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Customers in New Jersey can now
> dial Verizon's Local and National 411 and ask for a bookstore in
> Morristown or a caterer in Cincinnati, without a specific name or
> street address, using Verizon's Business Category Search service.

> With the new service, customers can ask for a type of business in a
> locality or city, and the Verizon operator will offer three choices
> randomly selected from telephone listings for the area. 

T-Mobile's "T-Mobile connect" (411) service has had this service for a
good while now.  In addition they will connect your call to a local
two state area included in the cost of the call in addition to normal
airtime charges.  They also include directory information for Canada
as well.

           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PayPal Notice of Pendency of Class Action; Proposed Settlement
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:27:19 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com


On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:39:43 -0400, Telecom Digest Editor noted in
response to Monty Solomon's posting:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I strongly recommend everyone with a
> PayPal account review this class action settlement file.  You might
> very well wind up with **fifty dollars** credited to your Paypal
> account, if you get to that site and can make certain statements
> about your dealings with PalPal or PayPal Debit/Credit cards, etc. PAT] 

And as in other class action suits you can bet your bippy that the
lawyers will buy a new Lexus with what *they* get.  Class action suits
only put a hardship on companies.  The end "user" usually gets close
to bupkes (zero.)


           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Cell Phones Using Wi-Fi; How Will Hotspots Cope?
Date: 29 Jul 2004 11:42:18 -0400
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Phil Earnhardt  <pae@dim.com> wrote:

> Yesterday, Motorola announced a GSM phone that also works with Wi-Fi.

> From the 7/27 Wall Street Journal:

>> Motorola Inc. yesterday unveiled a phone that combines cellular
>> and wireless Internet-calling capabilities. The device, called the 
>> CN620, which could be the first mobile phone that combines 
>> wide-area GSM cellular technology with shorter-range technology 
>> known as Wi-Fi, or wireless fidelity, could open the floodgates for 
>> users to steal away significant minutes from cellular networks 
>> and place free calls over the Internet.

> I was talking with the owner of a local cafe that provides Wi-Fi for
> its customers about this yesterday. I was wondering how these little
> shops would cope with such phones when they start to become widely
> available. Will they have to buy new base stations that will disable
> their network for such devices? Start limiting bandwidth to each MAC
> address? Do any reasonably-cheap base stations provide such
> capabilites today?

Any of the cheap base stations that have "firewalls" will do the job
already.  You can easily filter whatever port is being used.  Already
they should be filtering a lot of traffic to and from the outside,
most notably forcing outgoing e-mail through a filtering server to
prevent spammers from taking advantage of their services, and blocking
the Microsoft network ports for security reasons.

--scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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From: loft@pigeons.ws (Day Bird Loft)
Subject: Re: Telecommunications: Blogs, Bloggers, and Blogging
Date: 29 Jul 2004 09:39:03 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


New Drinking Game [ A little Humor ]

Thanks to the Telcom post yesterday [ see below ] Net Fusion has come
up with a new game on counting the number of times blog is used in
their article. 

see http://www.nwfusion.com/weblogs/layer8/005801.html#005801

Cheers :-)

Telcom Post 28 July 04 

loft@pigeons.ws (Day Bird Loft) wrote in message
news:<telecom23.354.10@telecom-digest.org>:

> Telecommunications: Blogs, Bloggers, and Blogging 

>  From newspapers to television shows, from small business to the
> world's largest corporations, and from religion to politics, everyone
> is riding the blog power sphere.

> WASHINGTON DC (IPR Wire) 28 July 2004 --- With the coming of age in
> blogging, people can demonstrate strength in numbers.

> With the power of blogs it is apparent that it's time for personal
> knowledge to be recorded and published.

> In the past five years, blogs have gone from the backroom to the
> boardroom. More recently during the previous six months, blogs have
> begun to dominate the information highway. Lately, blogs have become
> the mainstay of grassroots' politics.

> However, on the subject of blogging, one might ask "What about
> business applications?" According to Hans Schnauber, Internet Web
> Guru, "Blogs are the future of online business . . . they are a
> structure of communication that will change the way people come
> together."

> Mr. Schnauber stated "With news articles in the press appearing hourly
> on the subject of blogs, it is time for everyone to join the power of
> blogging, the power of numbers, the power of the people. Blogs can
> revolutionize the web and blogging presents an opportunity for social
> networking in topics where knowledge and innovation play an important
> role."

> After discovering in 2001 that hyphens work great for blog technology,
> Mr. Schnauber waited patiently and then began registering more than
> six thousand blogs on Blogger (Google's free service) and as a result
> has created the world's largest mega-blog.

> The mega-blog guarantees that everybody will be treated equally and
> without favoritism. It is a proven formula that assures every person a
> voice in the future.

> As an 1998 ISOC nominee, he has centered the focal point of the
> mega-blog on subjects that span business, education, and politics.

> With Google's free Blogger and Feedburner service, it is time for
> everyone to register their own blog and connect to friends, family,
> and familiar faces.

> Business blogs include: http://auto-dealers.blogspot.com,
> http://corporate-law.blogspot.com, and
> http://newspaper-publishers.blogspot.com

> Educational blogs include: http://business-schools.blogspot.com,
> http://law-schools.blogspot.com, and
> http://state-university.blogspot.com

> Political blogs include: http://democratic-party.blogspot.com,
> http://republican-party.blogspot.com, and
> http://election-coverage.blogspot.com

> Mr. Schnauber will reveal his plans for the global mega-blog in the
> upcoming Fall of 2004.

> Many will remember this cunning individual as the driving force in the
> domain name craze utilizing hyphenated domains and registering
> thousands of names at a price of $100 per domain.

> Telecommunications: Blogs, Bloggers, and Blogging 
>   see: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/7/prweb144837.htm

> Technology Editor / IPR Wire
> http://iprwire.net

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From: David O. Rodriguez <dor@writeme.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:38:56 -0500
Subject: New Jersey Labor Board Page for NorVergence Employees


This may now be old news, but the following link is a page that was
set up by the New Jersey Labor and Workforce Development Department
exclusively for (former) NorVergence employees.

http://www.state.nj.us/labor/press/2004/0707NorvRapidResponse.htm

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:53:35 -0500
From: jmayson@nyx.net
Subject: Problem With Recycled Cell-Phone Numbers
Organization: Nyx Net, The Spirit of the Night


http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article838263.ece

A 16-year-old Hokksund girl has received text messages meant for Prime
Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik and is constantly being called by
journalists. She says she has been tempted to pretend to be the PM's
secretary, but so far has just fielded the calls with a smile,
newspaper Drammens Tidende reports.

John Mayson <jmayson@nyx.net>
Austin, Texas, USA

------------------------------

From: henry999@eircom.net (Henry)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Interesting Origins
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:05:50 +0300
Organization: Elisa Internet customer


Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thus, it was quite
> literally, "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey."

An expression I've always liked even better -- because very very few
people have ever heard it before -- is 'as cold as Blue Flujin'.

It comes from a Herman Melville novel called _White Jacket_, and
refers to a far-away (i.e., mythical) place where it is so cold that
even _fire_ freezes!

Cheers,

Henry

------------------------------

From: adamsjac@telcordia.com (Jack Adams)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Interesting Origins - Ship High In Transit
Date: 29 Jul 2004 11:58:09 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Yet another interesting origin of a phrase, this time as reported in
Harry Newton's Telecommunication Dictionary:

Edited for brevity ...

In the 16th and 17th centuries, most things were shipped by boat.
Among the products so shipped was dried manure (tightly bailed) as
commercial manufactured fertilizers weren't yet invented.  Shipping it
dry reduced its weight yet produced another problem.  Once the bails
of manure got wet, the fermentation process started with the byproduct
of methane gas (highly flammable).  Several accidents occurred as the
result of bails of manure being stowed low in the hold of the ship and
getting wet due to water in the low part of the ship.  These accidents
usually occurred when a crewman decended into the hold with a lantern
... ka BOOM!  Investigations soon revealed that these manure bail
should be kept out of the water, or on the upper or higher decks.  The
labeling used on the bails was Ship High In Transit, which became
S.H.I.T., which became ....


Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.355.13@telecom-digest.org>:

> A few thousand years agom as incredible as it sounds, men and women
> took baths only twice a year (May and October)! Women kept their hair
> covered, while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and
> wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs made from wool. They
> couldn't wash the wigs, so to clean them they would carve out a loaf
> of bread, put the wig in the shell, and bake it for 30 minutes. The
> heat would make the wig big and fluffy, hence the term "big wig."
> Today we often use the term "here comes the Big Wig" because someone
> appears to be or is powerful and wealthy.

> In more recent years, common entertainment included playing
> cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards
> but only applicable to the "Ace of Spades." To avoid paying the tax,
> people would purchase 51 cards instead.  Yet, since most games require
> 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they
> weren't "playing with a full deck." 

> In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters
> carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls.  It
> was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to
> prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method
> devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on
> four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30
> cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the
> cannon. There was only one problem ... how to prevent the bottom layer
> from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a
> metal plate called a "Monkey" with 16 round indentations. 

> However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly
> rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make "Brass
> Monkeys."  Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and
> much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature
> dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the
> iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey.  Thus, it was quite
> literally, "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey." (All
> this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you.)

------------------------------

From: Bill Turlock <Bill_Turlock@sonnic.net>
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Interesting Origins
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:19:57 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Lisa Minter wrote:

> A few thousand years agom as incredible as it sounds, men and women
> took baths only twice a year (May and October)! Women kept their hair
> covered, while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and
> wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs made from wool. They
> couldn't wash the wigs, so to clean them they would carve out a loaf
> of bread, put the wig in the shell, and bake it for 30 minutes. The
> heat would make the wig big and fluffy, hence the term "big wig."
> Today we often use the term "here comes the Big Wig" because someone
> appears to be or is powerful and wealthy.

> In more recent years, common entertainment included playing
> cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards
> but only applicable to the "Ace of Spades." To avoid paying the tax,
> people would purchase 51 cards instead.  Yet, since most games require
> 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they
> weren't "playing with a full deck."

> In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters
> carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls.  It
> was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to
> prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method
> devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on
> four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30
> cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the
> cannon. There was only one problem ... how to prevent the bottom layer
> from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a
> metal plate called a "Monkey" with 16 round indentations.

> However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly
> rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make "Brass
> Monkeys."  Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and
> much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature
> dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the
> iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey.  Thus, it was quite
> literally, "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey." (All
> this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you.)

http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/brass.htm

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well I found this rather incredible and
hard to believe but some plumbers in speaking about the process of
inserting air pressure into old, clogged up lime encrusted hot water
pipes to make them a little more useable refer to the process of 
blasting air pressure into the pipes as 'giving a blow job' (!! ?) PAT]

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