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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:43:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 352

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Telecom Update (Canada) #441, July 26, 2004 (Angus TeleManagement)
    Re: Dedicated Internet Line (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Dedicated Internet Line (John R. Levine)
    Re: Dedicated Internet Line (T. Sean Weintz)
    Re: Dedicated Internet Line (Barry Margolin)
    Re: Dedicated Internet Line (DevilsPGD)
    Re: Dedicated Internet Line (Hammond of Texas)
    Re: Phone for Noisy Environment (J Kelly)
    Re: Senate Committee Guts VoIP Bill (CharlesH)
    Re: In Regards to Help - Please (Mike Sutter) (News Feed)
    Re: Phone Card Inquiry (T. Sean Weintz)
    Clarification on 'Vonage Not in my Area Code' Thread (Patrick Townson)

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:19:01 -0400
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Subject: Telecom Update (Canada) #441, July 26, 2004


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Number 441: July 26, 2004

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IN THIS ISSUE:

** Sprint Launches Internet Phone Service
** Telus Extends Microcell Offer Again
** Primus to Offer Wireless Phones
** Bell Techs to Vote on "Final Offer"
** MTS to Operate as MTS Allstream
** Allstream Offers Wholesale VoIP
** EastLink Loses Bundling Complaint
** VoIP Hearing Extended
** Reverse Search Directory Service Permitted
** Telesat Launches Largest Communications Satellite
** Rogers Begins "Road Runner" Phase-Out in Nfld.
** GT Exec Moves to Vonage
** No Buyer for AT&T's Rogers Shares
** Rogers Wireless Offers Yahoo Internet Suite
** Bell Sued Over Modem Hijacking
** Telcos and Affiliates Subject to Same Rules
** Court Denies Landlord Appeal
** BCE Sells Yellow Pages Stake
** Telecom Conference Announces Speakers
** Should VoIP Be Regulated?

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SPRINT LAUNCHES INTERNET PHONE SERVICE: Sprint Canada's new Internet
Phone Service, designed for residential and small/home-office
customers, is available on six price plans, ranging from $19.95 to
$31.95 a month. Numbers are available from Ontario area codes 416,
647, 905, and 519. A gateway device sells for $75, including four
months of basic service.

** Sprint President Bill Linton describes the services as
    "Canada's first Competitive Local Exchange Carrier (CLEC)
    compliant broadband phone service."

TELUS EXTENDS MICROCELL OFFER AGAIN: Telus has extended its offer to
purchase all Microcell Telecommunications shares to August 20. By the
last deadline, July 22, Telus had been offered 288 class A restricted
voting shares, 15,785 class B non-voting shares, 71,917 Warrants 2005,
and 51,080 Warrants 2008.

** Microcell says it "continues to seek maximization of value
    to security holders by actively considering strategic and
    financial alternatives to the Telus offers."

PRIMUS TO OFFER WIRELESS PHONES: Primus Telecommunications Canada and
Microcell Solutions have signed a multi-year deal giving Primus access
to Microcell's national PCS network as a Mobile Virtual Network
Operator. Primus says it will begin offering wireless service in the
fall.

BELL TECHS TO VOTE ON "FINAL OFFER": The bargaining committee
representing 7,097 Bell Canada technicians is recommending rejection
of a contract proposal the company describes as a "final offer."
Results of the membership vote will be announced August 16.

** Earlier this month, the union members rejected a previous
    offer and approved strike action.

MTS TO OPERATE AS MTS ALLSTREAM: Manitoba Telecom Systems has asked
the CRTC to change all tariff references to its operating units -- MTS
Communications, MTS NetCom, and Manitoba Telephone System -- to MTS
Allstream Inc.


ALLSTREAM OFFERS WHOLESALE VoIP: Allstream's VoIP Access service
allows VoIP service providers to connect to the public telephone
network. It includes 9-1-1, 7-1-1, 4-1-1, Local Number Portability,
and Operator services.

EASTLINK LOSES BUNDLING COMPLAINT: The CRTC has rejected an EastLink
complaint about Aliant's "value packages," because the telco no longer
requires customers receiving the services to subscribe to its local
phone service. (See Telecom Update #440)

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-44.htm

VoIP HEARING EXTENDED: To accommodate all the parties who want to
speak at the CRTC's public consultation on VoIP, the hearing will now
take place over three days, September 21-23.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Notices/2004/pt2004-2-1.htm

REVERSE SEARCH DIRECTORY SERVICE PERMITTED: The CRTC will allow telcos
to offer a "reverse search directory assistance" service that provides
the city, town, or postal code associated with a given telephone
number, but not the street address. Only one search per call will be
permitted and subscribers' express consent must be obtained.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-49.htm

TELESAT LAUNCHES LARGEST COMMUNICATIONS SATELLITE: After several
delays, the world's largest commercial communications satellite, Anik
F2, was successfully launched on July 17.  Telesat says the satellite
will provide two-way broadband Internet service as well as television.

ROGERS BEGINS "ROAD RUNNER" PHASE-OUT IN NFLD: Rogers Cable has begun
converting the e-mail addresses of its "Road Runner" Internet
customers in Newfoundland to "@nl.rogers.com" addresses. The change is
the first step in migrating customers to the Rogers Hi-Speed service
offered elsewhere in Canada.

GT EXEC MOVES TO VONAGE: Bill Rainey, formerly Senior VP of Commercial
Services at Group Telecom, has been named president of Vonage
Canada. He reports to Jeffrey Citron, CEO of the U.S. parent company.

NO BUYER FOR AT&T'S ROGERS SHARES: When the deadline expired June 18,
AT&T Wireless had failed to find a buyer for its 34% interest in
Rogers Wireless. AT&T cannot now sell the shares without once again
offering Rogers an opportunity to make an offer. (See Telecom Update
#431, 434)

ROGERS WIRELESS OFFERS YAHOO INTERNET SUITE: Rogers Wireless now
offers a suite of Yahoo Internet services, including e-mail, instant
messaging, and news reports, all with no additional charges.

BELL SUED OVER MODEM HIJACKING: An Ontario customer has launched a
class action suit against Bell Canada, charging that the telco should
have known about and prevented the modem hijacking scams that have
resulted in thousands of dollars in long distance charges for many
customers. (See Telecom Update #439)

TELCOS AND AFFILIATES SUBJECT TO SAME RULES: In its follow-up to
Decision 2002-76, the CRTC has confirmed that telco affiliates are
subject to the same tariffing and bundling rules as the incumbent
telco itself.

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/dt2004-50.htm

COURT DENIES LANDLORD APPEAL: The Federal Court has dismissed an
appeal by the Canadian Institute of Public and Private Real Estate
Companies and the Building Owners and Managers Association against the
CRTC's statement that it can order access to buildings if carriers and
building owners cannot agree on terms. The Court said that the
statement, in Decision 2003-45, can't be appealed because the CRTC has
not actually made such an order.

http://decisions.fca-caf.gc.ca/fca/2004/2004fca243.shtml

BCE SELLS YELLOW PAGES STAKE: BCE Inc. has sold its 11.1 million
remaining shares of Yellow Pages Income Fund for approximately $123
million. The telco sold 90% of the company in 2002.

TELECOM CONFERENCE ANNOUNCES SPEAKERS: Nearly forty speakers have been
confirmed for Telemanagement Live!, which be held at the Metro Toronto
Convention Centre, October 20-21.  Details on the program and
registration are available at www.telemanagementlive.com.

** Telemanagement Live! is organized and presented by Angus
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SHOULD VoIP BE REGULATED? The current issue of Telemanagement features
Lis Angus's exclusive review and analysis of the telecom industry's
debate on CRTC proposals for regulation of Voice over IP phone
service. Also in this issue:

** Planning for High Availability Networking
** Is There a Future for Frame Relay and ATM Networks?
** Key Issues for Telecom Disaster Recovery

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Dedicated Internet Line
Date: 26 Jul 2004 15:44:42 -0400
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is it possible, physically, to build a dedicated hard line directly
> into the Internet?

Sure.  Most sites do.  Why?

Scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Dedicated Internet Line
Date: 26 Jul 2004 15:52:02 -0400
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Is it possible, physically, to build a dedicated hard line directly
> into the Internet?

Considering that "the Internet" doesn't exist as a single physical
thing, no.

It's easy enough to get a dedicated line to any of the ISPs and NSPs
that comprise the Internet, of course.

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From: T. Sean Weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org>
Subject: Re: Dedicated Internet Line
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:24:37 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


mike3 wrote:

> Hi,

> Is it possible, physically, to build a dedicated hard line directly
> into the Internet?

That question does not actually make sense.

Firstly, there is no single object known as the "internet" - it is a
collection of many many many different networks that are all
interconnected.

Taking my above point into account, you could argue that any leased
line connection to an ISP is exactly that - a dedicated hard line to
the internet. I mean wouldn't a T1 line (not frame - pt to pt) to a
major ISP qualify as exactly that? Esp if you run BGP over it? One
could even argue that if you are running BGP, you not only have a
direct hard line to the internet, but that your local network actually
is part of the internet.

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From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Dedicated Internet Line
Organization: Symantec
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:35:23 -0400


In article <telecom23.351.3@telecom-digest.org>, mike4ty4@yahoo.com
(mike3) wrote:

> Hi,

> Is it possible, physically, to build a dedicated hard line directly
> into the Internet?

Yes.  Just run a serial or ethernet cable directly from an ISP's router 
to your computer.


Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: To those of you who have participated
in this particular thread ('dedicated hard line to the Internet')
shouldn't we define our terms? For example how many folks know the
difference between the 'Internet' (with an uppercase /I/) and the
'internet' (with a lowercase /i/) and what we frequently refer to
just as the 'net', I have always heard that the 'internet' consists
of many interconnected networks, of which the 'Internet' (itself a
collection of networks) is but one part. I have always assumed I was
hardwired to the net because of my 'always on' cable or DSL connection
as opposed to what we all used to do years ago, with dial-up. Any
comments?    PAT]

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From: DevilsPGD <UseTheReplyToField@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Dedicated Internet Line
Reply-To: bond-jamesbond@crazyhat.net
Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy!
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:28:32 GMT


In message <telecom23.351.3@telecom-digest.org> mike4ty4@yahoo.com
(mike3) wrote:

> Is it possible, physically, to build a dedicated hard line directly
> into the Internet?

What is "the Internet"

A DSL line could easily qualify, depending on what exactly you're
trying to do.


Nobody ever lost money underestimating the human intelligence.
 -- P.T.Barnum

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:53:39 -0700
From: Hammond of Texas <spambait@spamcop.net>
Subject: Re: Dedicated Internet Line


mike3 wrote:

> Hi,

> Is it possible, physically, to build a dedicated hard line directly
> into the Internet?

No. If it were, the Matrix would have you in minutes.

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From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: Phone for Noisy Environment
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:16:58 -0500
Organization: http://newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com


On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:22:44 -0600, Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
<73115.1041@compuserve.com> wrote:

> J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy.com> wrote:

>> Can anyone recommend a GOOD quality phone for use in a noisy
>> environment?  Most phones sold today are total pieces of crap.
>> Requirements are a volume control for the earpiece, be able to
>> withstand a reasonable amount of abuse (dropping the handset, etc, not
>> purposely abusing it), works with a POTS line, and hopefully costs
>> less than $50.  Don't need speaker phone, memory dialing, etc, but
>> some of that might be nice, as would be noise cancelling.  This is
>> used in an area that has a lot of very large fans and motors running
>> making a lot of noise.  Even the 'office area' in this facility has a
>> lot of noise and I'm half deaf besides.

> Back in the days of TPC ("The Phone Company"), you could get something
> called a "Confidencer" that was a replacement screw on transmitter for
> standard handsets.  It worked very well by reducing the sidetone (ie
> noise) from the area you were in.

> Standard phones and TPC have gone the way of the Dodo bird, so I have
> no idea where you would go now.

Reducing sidetone would be a BIG help.  Good phones just do not seem
to exsist anymore.

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:09:27 -0600, Phil Earnhardt <pae@dim.com>
wrote:

> On 22 Jul 2004 12:27:01 -0700, a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
> wrote:

>> The best answer for you is a headset.  Lots of cabled headsets are
>> available that will work in your price range, but you will probably
>> want one with a noise-cancelling microphone if the noise level is such
>> that can be heard over a normal phone.

> I just noticed that there's a new headset option out there (new to me,
> anyhow). 
> The only thing this headset (earset?) doesn't cover is the noise
> you'll pick up from your other ear. 

A headset is not the solution I was hoping to find.  I do far to much
running around this facility to be able to monkey with putting on and
taking of a headset, I want to grab the phone, hear the message, tell
them what I'm doing, set it down and go about my business.  If I need
to walk around to look at some piece of equipment I want to just
quickly set the phone on the desk and do so.  99% of the time I am not
on the phone, so I can't just leave the thing on.

I'm half deaf in one ear, so that helps a little.

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From: hoch@exemplary.invalid (CharlesH)
Subject: Re: Senate Committee Guts VoIP Bill
Date: 26 Jul 2004 20:01:44 GMT
Organization: http://newsguy.com


In article <telecom23.351.15@telecom-digest.org>, Paul Vader
<pv+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:

> anonfwd774@witheld at request writes:

>> I'm not really sure how handheld GPS receivers work and I've never
>> owned one, but I'm guessing they don't work too well inside buildings!

> They don't work AT ALL inside buildings. As you guessed, they need an
> unobstructed line-of-sight to the satellite. *

Some cell phones (e.g., Verizon, Nextel) use something called aGPS
(assisted GPS). With this, the cell site the phone is talking to does
the complicated part of the GPS protocol, and feeds information to the
phone so that the phone can get some timings for specific GPS
satellites. The phone feeds this info back to the cell site, which
computes the location of the phone and reports it to the E911 center.
With the cell site doing most of the work, and knowing the location of
the cell site, one can get a location fix on the phone with a much
weaker signal and fewer satellites than required for a standalone GPS
unit, allowing it to work indoors and between tall buildings.  The
"assisting" site has to be physically near to the phone (as is the
case for a phone talking to a cell site), so it and the phone are
"seeing" the same satellites and with nearly the same timings.  See
www.snaptrack.com.

Of course this has nothing to do with VOIP, since with IP, you don't
have anything like a "cell site" which is geographically close to the
phone which could "assist" it.

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From: News Feed <mjs2032@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: In Regards to Help - Please (Mike Sutter)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:18:53 -0400


My stupid. I've got that in there because I post a couple of
un-moderated groups and I'm trying to avoid becoming a "harvesting"
victim. Sorry to take up your time.  Regards, Mike Sutter

PS - I don't suppose even a NAK-BOT could have gotten back to me under
these circumstances. :)

John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> noted:

> How do you expect the ack-bot to send you an acknowledgement if you
> give it a forged return address?  It's not clairvoyant.

> Regards,
> John Levine, postmaster@telecom-digest.org
> (and postmaster of about 200 other domains)

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From: T. Sean Weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org>
Subject: Re: Phone Card Inquiry
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:31:41 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Robert Bonomi wrote:

> Such an animal probably *doesn't* exist.  =UNLESS= they have _local_
> (i.e., _non_ toll-free access numbers in the area(s) you'd be calling
> _from_) And, since you didn't specify _where_ you would be calling
> from, nobody can tell if there's anything like that in your area.

> The reason:

> For *EVERY* call to a 'toll free' number from a pay-phone, the
> toll-free number operator must pay the pay-phone operator something in
> the range of 25-35 cents (I don't have the exact figure off the top of
> my head), for the 'use' of the pay-phone for that call.

> Either the card issuer (a) charges a surcharge for those pay-phone
> originated calls that incur the extra costs, or (b) builds recovery of
> those costs into the charges for *every* call.  Guess which one lets
> them advertise lower rates?  <grin>

> The card issuer surcharge for pay-phone calls =is= more than the
> pass-thru cost, because they have to pay the pay-phone operator
> _even_if_ the call doesn't complete to the far end.  And for 'wrong
> numbers', and for calls where the calling-card number is entered
> wrong, and for calls where the calling card doesn't have enough money
> on it to place the call, etc. etc.

> Plus the additional administrative overhead of tracking the pay-phone
> billings.

That's where knowing ways of bypassing ANI come in handy. Used to be
you could get around it by dialing 10-10-ATT, then hitting zero and
convincing the ATT op to dial the 800 number (definitely a social
engineering challenge) for the phone card for you -- the ANI would come
up with an ATT number, not the payphone number.

Doesn't work with ATT any more, but may work with other carriers.

------------------------------

From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Clarification on 'Vonage Not in my Area Code' Thread
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004  20:00:00 EDT


John Covert commented on my earlier response to the fellow who
wondered what do do since Vonage had no service (as of yet) in his
specific area code. I suggested getting a 'virtual toll free' number
so his friends and family could call him with ease, at no charge
to them. I said that Vonage allowed me to combine all my minutes and
use them. John noted, rightly, that Vonage did not charge for incoming
calls except in the case of toll free, in which they gave you an 
allotment of 100 minutes per toll-free number/month. But unlike many
of you with Vonage 'unlimited useage' accounts, I have a 500 minutes
per month account -- older style plan -- for $15.00 per month, which
is plenty for me. 500 minutes per month on outbound (which is all
funnelled through the area 620 number) plus the charges per month on
the virtual Chicago 773 number and the charges on the virtual toll-
free 888 number. I do get 100 incoming minutes toll free and 500 
minutes outbound. PAT]

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