From editor@telecom-digest.org Fri Jan 23 14:34:23 2004 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.3) id i0NJYNT29092; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:34:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200401231934.i0NJYNT29092@massis.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: massis.lcs.mit.edu: ptownson set sender to editor@telecom-digest.org using -f To: ptownson Approved: patsnewlist Subject: TELECOM Digest V23 #35 TELECOM Digest Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:35:00 EST Volume 23 : Issue 35 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions (Peter R. Webb) Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage? (DevilsPGD) Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage? 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Operators have adjusted to stock market falls and funding constraints, GPRS has given a new lease of life to existing 2G networks, and operators who have launched 3G networks are finding teething problems impacting service reliability, and are still to demonstrate a 3G killer application to make 2G obsolete. As a consequence major operators have tried to re-negotiate the obligations attached to their licence rights. This visiongain conference will bring together the key stakeholders involved in, and impacted by, the debate surrounding 3G rollout obligations. Participants will be able to engage in the debate, and have their say on 3G licence obligations, their alternatives and the future of 3G services. Speakers from major players within the 3G arena will include: Robert Mourik, Senior Manager, Public Policy, Vodafone Rui Lemos Pereira, Vice President, Regulatory Affairs, T-Mobile Intl Christer Hammarlund, Principal Admin, DG Info Society, European Commission Andrea Camanzi, Senior Vice President, Regulatory Affairs, Telecom Italia Steve Jordan, Head of European Regulatory Policy, mmO2 Joachim Lcking, Deputy Head of Unit, DG Competition, European Commission Graham Louth, Director of Spectrum Markets, Ofcom (UK) Jaroslav Kubista, Director, External Affairs, Eurotel Vincenzo Monaci, Commissioner for Networks & Infrastructures, Agcom (Italy) Marc Furrer, Director General, Federal Office of Comm (Switzerland) Geraldine Philippe, General Counsel, Comfone Magnus Axelsson, Senior Advisor, Post-och telestyrelsen -PTS (Sweden) Key themes discussed at Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions : - Why 3G licence conditions need to be reviewed and what adjustments are needed? - How to create the right regulatory environment to encourage 3G rollout? - What actions are needed to facilitate investment in infrastructure and services? - The benefits and risks of spectrum trading. How will attending this event benefit you ? ** Debate the future of 3G telephony with key industry decision-makers; ** Anticipate and influence regulatory changes in 3G rollout; ** Prepare for business opportunities in 3G services. Who should attend Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions? By industry sector: Telecom operators Vendors Equipment manufacturers By job title: Head of Strategy and Business Development Head of Regulatory Affairs Head of Corporate Affairs General Counsels Telecoms Policy Analysts Legal services Consultants Head of Public Affairs Head of Infrastructure and Networks Head of Spectrum Policy Head of Strategic Policy Regulatory/Legal Affairs Staff Also included in this 2 day event is a pre conference work shop, ideal for pre-event networking: Strategies for re-negotiating rollout conditions; 20th April 2004 - Led by: Imogen Bailey, Edelman Key themes will include: - Identifying the decision-makers; - Where to find external support for campaigning? - The role of pressure groups and think tanks; - Developing strategies for impact. Places at this event are strictly limited so book your place now. To make a booking on this event, please contact me via phone or email. Book early to secure a place. Ensure your organisation's success with the advent of 3G. Attend this conference and book your place TODAY. - PRICING - Attend the: 2 Day conference with interactive workshop - ONLY GBP1400 plus VAT 2 Day conference - ONLY GBP1099 plus VAT Workshop only - ONLY GBP650 plus VAT - BOOKINGS - Booking is easy, simply contact Peter Webb on: Telephone: +44 (0)20 8767 6711 Fax: +44 (0)20 8767 5001 Email: mailto:peter.webb@visiongain.com Please find below the conference agenda. To book your place at Reviewing 3G Licence Conditions simply give me a quick ring or email me stating whether you require a single place or a group booking. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards, Peter Webb Account manager Email peter.webb@visiongain.com Full conference agenda: Day One Wednesday 21st April 2004 Conference Day One Chair Stephen Pentland Partner Spectrum Strategy Consultants 8:30 Registration and coffee 9:00 Opening remarks from the Chair THE RATIONALE FOR REVIEWING LICENCE OBLIGATIONS What were the objectives behind 3G licence conditions in Europe, to what degree have obligations been met and is there scope for re-negotiation? Regulators, operators and other players involved in the market will give their views on 3G rollout, competition issues and how to make 3G a success. 9:10 KEYNOTE The EU's perspective on reviewing licence obligations and on 3G rollout What were the objectives of 3G rollout at European level in terms of coverage, services provided, markets? How does the Regulatory Framework on Electronic Communications cover licence conditions and 3G rollout? What are the respective roles of the EC and the National Regulatory Authorities (NRAs)? Christer Hammarlund Principal Administrator DG Information Society, European Commission 9:50 The Swedish perspective on reviewing licence obligations What were the regulator's objectives in terms of 3G rollout in Sweden? How are Swedish operators complying with their obligations? Are operators' strategies influencing the States' communications policy? How to respond to licensees' bid for a softening of their obligations? To what level are 3G services available in Sweden and are they successful? Magnus Axelsson Senior Advisor Post-och telestyrelsen - PTS 10:20 Challenges and successes in 3G rollout: the Irish experience The licensing process for 3G in Ireland and rollout obligations. How are the licence obligations fulfilled in Ireland? The current state of 3G services offer in Ireland: success or failure? Encouraging sharing of sites and infrastructure to facilitate rollout. Some future challenges for the regulator. Jim Connolly Senior Manager, Spectrum Management, Competition & International Strategy Comreg & Chairman, CEPT ECC Working Group Frequency Management 10:50 The Swiss experience as former President of IRG and as President of CEPT The Swiss experience of licensing process: choices and rollout conditions. The relations between the regulator and the operators. Operators' strategies for re-negotiating obligations: how to respond? The importance of international dialogue for regulators: the role of the CEPT and ERG/IRG. Marc Furrer Director General Ofcom, Switzerland 11:20 Coffee and discussion 11:40 Competition aspects of 3G rollout within the European Regulatory Framework How to implement EC competition rules in 3G rollout? The competition assessment of network sharing as a way to ease 3G rollout conditions Possible future competition concerns in 3G services Joachim Lcking, Deputy Head of Unit Telecommunications and Post; Information Society Coordination DG Competition, European Commission 12:20 Licence obligations and implementation of 3G rollout in the UK Communications Act The competition aspects of the UK Communications Act How to implement competition rules in 3G rollout? Is there scope in the Act for a relaxation of 3G licence obligations? 3G and 3G like services: how to regulate? Richard Eccles, Partner Bird & Bird 12:50 Lunch 14:10 Comparing the Japanese and European rollout conditions and 3G markets: NTT Docomo's view The process of 3G licensing in Japan: issues at stakes with the beauty contest. The future of 3G services: time scale for rollout and vision for 3G How do license conditions in Europe compare with the licensing process in Japan? How to adapt to local markets and varying national regulations? Senior Representative NTT DoCoMo Inc. 14:50 A vision for the 3G world and its prerequisites What are customer expectations for 3G services? How will the deployment of 3G services impact on the market place? What rollout conditions can facilitate deployment of 3G services? What are the other policy prerequisites for a successful deployment of 3G services? Is a review of licence conditions necessary for a successful rollout? Rui Lemos Pereira Vice President Regulatory Affairs T-Mobile International 15:30 Coffee and discussion 15:50 Licence obligations: is a review necessary? What are the optimum rollout conditions for a successful 3G rollout? Does the investment needed to comply with the obligations make business sense? How to deal with competitive licensees? Andrea Camanzi Senior Vice President Regulatory Affairs Telecom Italia 16:30 A successful case of re-negotiation: Eurotel What were the original licence conditions? How were the relation with the regulator when re-negotiating conditions? What were Eurotel's objectives when re-negotiating licence obligations? The expected benefits from a delayed 3G rollout in the Czech Republic. Jaroslav Kubista Director External Affairs Eurotel 17:10 Close of Day Day Two Thursday 22nd April 2004 Conference Day Two Chair Marina Wiggs Senior Manager Spectrum Strategy Consultants 8:40 Registration and coffee 9:10 Opening remarks from the chair 9:20 Creating the licence conditions for a successful 3G rollout: overview of the Italian case What were the regulator's objectives in terms of 3G rollout in Italy? How was the hybrid licensing method organised? How successful has the rollout been in Italy so far? Is there a case for a review of licence obligations? Vincenzo Monaci Commissioner for Networks and Infrastructures Agcom (Italian Communications Regulatory Authority) 10:00 Vodafone's perspective on 3G licences and rollout What licence conditions can ensure optimum 3G rollout? Negotiating rollout obligations with various national regulators. Adapting 3G strategy to local markets. Future challenges in 3G rollout for operators. Robert Mourik Senior Manager Public Affairs Vodafone 10:40 Coffee and discussion 11:00 The case for infrastructure sharing: a way to facilitate rollout conditions? The pros and cons of infrastructure sharing. What are the issues in terms of competition law? The European Commission's position on infrastructure sharing. Do license obligations allow sharing? Chris Watson, Partner Allen & Overy 11:40 IT infrastructure requirements for 3G rollout Using effective IT infrastructure to deliver 3G mobile data services Multi-channel multi-modal portals, cost effective operational and business support systems, managing the plethora of devices Do operators' rollout schedule influence IT infrastructure providers' business strategy? Chris Bray e-Business Executive IBM Wireless 12:15 Lunch SPECTRUM TRADING: a solution to ease operators' licence obligations? This session will review the opportunities and the risks at stake in spectrum trading and whether it can be a solution to help the deployment of 3G services. It will look in particular at the way regulators have responded to the ideas so far and to the opportunities operators expect from it. 13:20 Preparing a new regulatory framework for spectrum management The results of the consultation by Ofcom and the Radiocommunications Agency. Autonomy and harmonisation. Proposals for trading and liberalisation. Timetable for implementation. Graham Louth Director of Spectrum Markets Ofcom (UK) 14:00 Business expectations from spectrum trading in 3G Benefits and risks from spectrum trading. Would it facilitate 3G rollout? What would be the benefits for customers? Steve Jordan, Head of European Regulatory Policy MmO2 & Chair of GSM Europe regulatory working group 14:40 Challenges and options in introducing spectrum trading in Europe Practical challenges in the introduction of spectrum trading. Would it make the business case for 3G more appealing? What changes to the industry structure may result? Moves towards introduction of spectrum trading. The benefits of a harmonised approach to spectrum trading regulation in Europe. Amit Napgal Senior Consultant, Analysys, & Project Manager - Study on introduction of spectrum trading in Europe for the European Commission 15:20 Coffee and discussion 15:40 The UK spectrum trading proposals How are the options constrained by the Communications Act? What scope would there be for deriving value from a spectrum trade? What scope would there be for interference management being dealt with by private treaty? What is the likely impact on 3G? Tony Ballard, Partner, Head of telecoms group Field Fisher Waterhouse FORESEEING FUTURE REGULATORY CHALLENGES 16:10 The legal implications of WLAN in 3G rollout Is WLAN a threat to 3G? Is there a reaction on the regulators side possible? Should there be a reaction in order to protect 3G licensees? Geraldine Philippe General Counsel Comfone 16:40 Digital rights management in 3G services: do rollout obligations influence operators' strategies? The current dispositions within the European framework on electronic communications. Digital rights strategies for operators and content providers. Will 3G services face more challenges in terms of digital rights management than 2G and 2.5G? Ian Penman Partner New Media Law LLP 17:10 Close of conference Pre conference interactive workshop Strategies for re-negotiating rollout conditions Workshop Leader: Imogen Bailey, Director Technology Edelman The objective of this workshop is to look into companies' strategies in approaching public bodies to ensure optimum conditions to deploy 3G services. It will provide expert insight into how to optimise relations with regulators and government bodies in the process of 3G deployment. Professionals with experience of managing public affairs campaign and lobbying strategies will give first-hand examples in a business-orientated, interactive meeting. Workshop schedule 8:40 Coffee and registration 9:10 Identifying the decision-makers The respective roles of EU institutions and national bodies: governments, national regulatory authorities (NRAs). The role of telecom regulators vs. competition authorities in issues related to 3G. 10:30 Coffee and discussion 11:00 The role of pressure groups and think tanks Where to find external support for campaigning? Which organisations are involved in influencing public campaigning (trade associations, independent think tanks, private consultants)? Finding the right level group: when to contact pan-European and/or national organisations? 12:30 Networking lunch 13:30 Developing strategies for impact How to approach different bodies? How to build negotiation strategies to ensure results? What makes a successful public affairs campaign? Tools to achieve re-negotiation of regulatory conditions in the wireless sector. 15:00 Coffee and discussion 15:30 Case studies Each session will include time for questions and roundtable discussions. Benefits of attending: Improve your knowledge of government and regulatory bodies acting in 3G Find out about strategies to improve campaigns related to wireless issues Learn new negotiation techniques from concrete examples About Edelman: Edelman is the world's largest independent public relations firm, with 1,800 professionals in 39 offices. Edelman' s services in London include : Corporate relations, Investor relations, media analysis, Media relations, media training, monitoring and evaluation, Online Solutions. Edelman's technology department is lead by Imogen Bailey. Sectors covered by Edelman's clients in London include: Mobile Communications, Data storage, Semiconductors, Chips, Software applications. - BOOKINGS - Booking is easy, simply contact Peter Webb on: Telephone: +44 (0)20 8767 6711 Fax: +44 (0)20 8767 5001 Email: mailto:peter.webb@visiongain.com Regards Peter Webb Account manager Email peter.webb@visiongain.com Terms & Conditions Cancellations/substitutions and name changes: All bookings carry a 50% liability after the booking has been made, by post fax, email or web. There will be no refunds for cancellations received on or after one month before the start of the conference (e.g. cancellation on or after 20th January for a conference starting on 20th February). If you decide to cancel after this date the full invoice remains payable. Conference notes, which are available on the day, will be sent to you. Unfortunately we are not able to transfer places between conferences and executive briefings. However if you are unable to attend the event you may make a substitution/name change at any time as long as we are informed in writing by e-mail, fax or post. Name changes and substitutions must be from the same company and are not transferable between companies or countries. Indemnity: visiongain Ltd reserve the right to change the conference/executive briefing content, timing, speakers or venue without notice. The event may be postponed or cancelled due to acts of terrorism, war, extreme weather conditions, industrial action, acts of God or any event beyond the control of visiongain Ltd. If such a situation arises we will endeavour to reschedule the event. However, visiongain Ltd cannot be held responsible for any cost, damage or expenses, which may be incurred by the customer as a consequence of the event being postponed or cancelled. We therefore strongly advise all customers to take out insurance to cover the cost of the registration, travel and expense. ------------------------------ From: DevilsPGD Subject: Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage? Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:20:28 GMT In message <> cscapella@yahoo.com (howard) did ramble: > I am about to start up a new office in which I plan on having about 4 > phones, possibly more in the future. My question is: Is it possible > to have only 1 phone line that can go to any extension and handle > multiple incoming or outgoing calls simultaneously and integrate with > Vonage? > Obviously I want to reduce my local phone company expenses. Would I > be using a phone system like the ATT 4-Line KSU-less phone system to > tie it all together? > Thanks for you help, Short answer, yes I believe that this would work. -- In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal. ------------------------------ From: noname Subject: Re: One Phone Line and Multiple Extensions + Vonage? Organization: ATCC Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:16:22 GMT In article , cscapella@yahoo.com says: > Hello everyone, > I am about to start up a new office in which I plan on having about 4 > phones, possibly more in the future. My question is: Is it possible > to have only 1 phone line that can go to any extension and handle > multiple incoming or outgoing calls simultaneously and integrate with > Vonage? > Obviously I want to reduce my local phone company expenses. Would I > be using a phone system like the ATT 4-Line KSU-less phone system to > tie it all together? > Thanks for you help, If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the Vonage box provide just one line? If you want to save business costs, let the local phone company drag in a line or two and use them only for incoming. Make the Vonage line outgoing only and default that as the LD line. As to KSU's vs. ksu-less, in my experience the ksu-less are crap. They work fine for a few months and then all hell break loose. Instead, look around for a used KSU system like the Partner Plus, or others on Ebay. Stay far away from any 416 type system though - they are very hard to deal with and use proprietary phones, etc. The Partner stuff can be had cheap but you can even hook standard sets up to it. As an example, I found a Partner Plus system with thirteen Partner phones (5 of which were display phones.) for $550 on ebay a couple years ago. I'd imagine there are similar values. ------------------------------ From: Dave Greenfield Subject: VoIP and Firewalls Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:09:28 +0200 Organization: Bezeq International Ltd. Hi all, Has anyone here looked VoIP perimeter security? I'm trying to figure out whether conventional firewalls have the performance & smarts to secure the VoIP perimeter without interfering with VoIP functionality. More specifically are the jitter characteristics and standards-support sufficient to handle a robust, enterprise VoIP deployment, particularly seeing that most firewalls don't implement a SIP/h.323 UA/client, but perform their operations through content inspection. All views can be held on background or for publication -- as you like. I'm really looking more to solicit the minds of leading thinker then engage in a whole PR rigmarole - if you know what I mean. Please reply offline. Thanks, David Greenfield International Technology Editor Network Magazine v 1-516-620--0622 e: dgreenfield@cmp.com IM: NetMagDave (on AIM, Yahoo, and Hotmail) ------------------------------ From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach) Subject: AT&T Wireless Shrinks Its Dowry Date: 23 Jan 2004 10:25:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Aude Lagorce, 01.22.04, Forbes.com NEW YORK - In the wake of AT&T Wireless' disappointing fourth-quarter results, a merger with a rival operator now looks more like a shotgun wedding than an alliance of reason. Rumors of consolidation in the wireless telecom industry have long been swirling, but a big merger started looking more probable this week when Cingular Wireless and NTT DoCoMo, Japan's leading mobile operator, both reportedly made bids for AT&T Wireless, the third-largest operator in the U.S. Cingular is co-owned by SBC Communications and BellSouth. In its earnings conference call this morning, AT&T Wireless acknowledged interest from several competitors. Although the firm didn't identify its suitors, it said it would examine the bids, thus confirming speculation that AT&T Wireless is in play. http://www.forbes.com/2004/01/22/cx_al_0122awe.html Eric Friedebach /Mars: northern Nevada without the legal brothels/ ------------------------------ From: rob51166@yahoo.com (Rob) Subject: Re: America's Opinion of AOL Date: 23 Jan 2004 08:32:55 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lightspeed Technical Support wrote in message news:: >> Personally, I think they're scumbags. It is almost impossible to >> cancel service with them. I witnessed a friend of mine on the phone >> with them for an hour trying to cancel his son's AOL account. Seems >> she kept "losing" the account info while he was on the line. You >> know, that crazy computer system, gosh darn ... >> She made him repeat his full name, address, account number, credit > > card number, blood type, etc. at least 4 times during the call. They >> really try to wear you out. Even though it was the parent's credit >> card on the account, AOL had the nerve to tell him they were not >> authorized to cancel the account and the son would need to do it. But >> the son is not 18 yet, so go figure. >> Their intent, in my opinion, is to get you to just hang up in disgust >> and live with the bill for another month. >> -- Paul > Don't know about the US, but my wife worked in billing at AOL Europe. > The call centre down in Waterford had a department referred to as > either "the cancellation department" or "the member save department" > (depending whether or not one was talking to a customer.) These guys > were paid commission for every account they stopped from cancelling, > and were authorised to use all sorts of incentives to entice people to > stay on (my wife's job included auditing all the freebies that the > member save department was giving away.) > mike. BTW, how much would you pay for AOL ADSL in the US? Or any other ISP on ADSL for that matter. TIA! Rob ------------------------------ From: Jack Hamilton Subject: Re: The Electronic Verification Is in the Mail Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:42:56 -0800 Organization: Copyright (c) 2004 by Jack Hamilton. Reply-To: jfh@acm.org Monty Solomon wrote: > The Postal Service, Microsoft and a technology company called > Authentidate have developed a system called Electronic Postmark for > verifying that a document's content is the same as when a user saved > it. The service, introduced in October, is in some ways more a notary > public's stamp than a postmark, intended particularly for those > affixing their electronic signatures to documents relayed online. > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/technology/circuits/22post.html This sounds very similar to the PGP Digital Timestamping Service (http://www.itconsult.co.uk/stamper.htm), which has been around since 1995. In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and security. And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and security. Edward Gibbons Jack Hamilton jfh@acm.org ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, Yahoo Groups, and other forums. 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