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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:00:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 344

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    AT&T Board Mulls Phasing Out Consumer Service - WSJ (Monty Solomon)
    AT&T Wireless Reports Second Qtr Net Income $0.02 Per Share (M Solomon)
    Phone For Noisy Environment (J Kelly)
    Verizon as Local Telephone Provider?? (jjk2c)
    Data Radios (Yantrik)
    Re: Verizon Fios - Fiber-to-the-Premises Network (Michael D. Sullivan)
    Re: Verizon Fios - Fiber-to-the-Premises Network (Mark Atwood)
    Re: Norvergence - How Do I Get Out (Brian Folks)
    PointOne Provides Enhanced Network Access to 20,000 SIPphone (VOIP News)
    Senate Panel Sets VoIP Vote (VOIP News)

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:38:48 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Board Mulls Phasing Out Consumer Service - WSJ


NEW YORK, July 21 (Reuters) - AT&T Corp.'s (NYSE:T) board is
considering phasing out local and long-distance phone service to
U.S. consumers, a potential watershed for a company that until 20
years ago had a virtual monopoly on the country's phone service, The
Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

AT&T's current management team, led by Chairman and Chief Executive
David Dorman, has apparently reached a consensus that the company's
future lies entirely with corporate and business customers, the
Journal said.

The board of directors at AT&T was expected to discuss the possible
move at a meeting that began Tuesday night and is to continue on
Wednesday, the newspaper said, citing unspecified people familiar with
the matter.

Any such plan could be modified, or rejected altogether, the Journal
said.

AT&T would not cut off its existing 35 million residential customers
under such a plan. Instead, it would cease marketing residential phone
service to consumers. Without advertising and the barrage of telephone
and mail solicitations to consumers, those customers would fall off
significantly over time, according to the Journal.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=42618839

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:39:23 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T Wireless Reports Second Quarter Net Income of $0.02 Per Share


Delivers $1.1 Billion in OIBDA

REDMOND, Wash., July 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AT&T Wireless
(NYSE:AWE) today said its second quarter 2004 services revenue grew
3.3 percent from the first quarter to $3.871 billion, driven primarily
by a reduction in promotional incentives, and strong growth in
wireless data revenues, which were partially offset by declines in
monthly recurring charges.  Year-over-year, services revenue declined
1.7 percent from $3.939 billion in the year-ago quarter.

Net income per share for the quarter was $0.02, an increase from a net
loss per share of $0.02 in the first quarter of 2004, but a decline
from $0.08 per share reported for the year-ago quarter.  The increase
in net income over the first quarter was due primarily to higher
operating income and net equity earnings from investments.

Second quarter OIBDA (defined as operating income before depreciation
and amortization) was $1.134 billion (see Attachment A), a 17.4
percent increase from first quarter OIBDA of $966 million and a 4.4
percent decrease from the year-ago quarter's $1.186 billion.  OIBDA
margin increased 350 basis points sequentially, to 29.3 percent
compared to 25.8 percent in the first quarter (See Attachment B).
Year-over-year second quarter OIBDA margin declined 80 basis points
from 30.1 percent.  The sequential increase in both metrics was driven
by a number of positive factors, including higher services revenue, a
lower provision for bad debt and lower network and toll expenses,
partially offset by higher customer acquisition expenses.

Net subscriber additions were 15,000, a significant turnaround of more
than 380,000 customers from the first quarter of 2004.

Second quarter churn was 3.4 percent, a 30 basis point improvement
over the first quarter's 3.7 percent.  The sequential improvement in
churn was driven by customer retention efforts and marked quality and
coverage improvements in the company's GSM network and the launch of
GSM America, an aggressive new national flagship offer that eliminates
roaming charges for many customers.  Churn increased when compared to
2.2 percent in the second quarter of 2003.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=42622882

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From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy.com>
Subject: Phone for Noisy Environment
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:36:39 -0500
Organization: http://newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com


Can anyone recommend a GOOD quality phone for use in a noisy
environment?  Most phones sold today are total pieces of crap.
Requirements are a volume control for the earpiece, be able to
withstand a reasonable amount of abuse (dropping the handset, etc, not
purposely abusing it), works with a POTS line, and hopefully costs
less than $50.  Don't need speaker phone, memory dialing, etc, but
some of that might be nice, as would be noise cancelling.  This is
used in an area that has a lot of very large fans and motors running
making a lot of noise.  Even the 'office area' in this facility has a
lot of noise and I'm half deaf besides.

Thanks.

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From: jjk2c@netzero.com (jjk2c)
Subject: Verizon as Local Telephone Provider??
Date: 21 Jul 2004 17:12:52 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I will be moving to southern Illinois soon.  It is my understanding
that my new local phone provider is Verizon.  Does anyone know if the
phone service have been deregulated there yet?

I really don't want to go with Verizon unless I have to.  The reason
being is that from their website it appears I have two options:

1)  For like $15.00 a month, I can get phone service, but every local
call is like a half cent a minute.  That sounds crazy to me.

2)  The next step up is like $42.00 a month, but that comes with all
the bells and whistles like call forwarding and call waiting deluxe
and all sorts of other stuff I don't need nor do I want.

I have looked at SBC and AT&Ts websites and they all have plans with
basic unlimited local calling for like $25.00 a month which I think is
pretty reasonable.  When I try to sign up with either of these two
companies by their websites, I get that phone service is available. 
However, neither one is able to verify my address on their website so
that I can set up service.

So that leads me back to my original question.  Does anyone know if I
am going to be stuck with Verizon, or do I have any other options?  I
have Verizon for my cell phone, and I think they are pretty good for a
cell phone, but I think their local service is just a little bit
ridiculous.

Thanks for any information anyone may have.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In large parts of Illinois, the telco
of record is SBC (formerly Ameritech, prior to that Illinois Bell).
Far south Illinois is a bit more sketchy, with a variety of rural
telephone companies, etc. Would you mind saying *which* town in 
southern Illinois you are going to be locating to and perhaps someone
can tell you who the telco of record is there. You also mentioned
SBC and AT&T as possible choices. Have you tried using those two
companies contact numbers (as shown on the web sites) and had one
of the humans (at either company) verify the address, service plans,
etc?   PAT]

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From: yantrikcommunications@yahoo.com (Yantrik)
Subject: Data Radios
Date: 21 Jul 2004 20:34:07 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


We are looking for information on the Point-to-Point radios in the
data rates of 64-768 KBPS & 1xE1-4xE1 in different frequency bands.

Can someone suggest such products with the company contact details.

Thanks!

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From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon Fios - Fiber-to-the-Premises Network
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:53:18 GMT


In article <telecom23.343.8@telecom-digest.org>, 
kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net says...

> In article <telecom23.342.5@telecom-digest.org>, letters@softhome.net 
> says:

>>> Verizon Poised to Deliver First Set of Services to Customers Over
>>>      Its Fiber-to-the-Premises Network

>>> 'Verizon Fios' Initially Will Offer Three High-Speed Data Options
>>> Including Speeds 10 Times Faster Than Current Consumer Broadband
>>> Services and Prices as Low as $34.95

>>>      Additional Fiber Deployments Under Way in California and Florida
[snip]

>> Wow!  Cheap too.  Watch out, P2P applications.

> Who knows when we'll ever see it here in the northeast. We got all 
> digital switching in the 80's. I guess that was Bell's gift to us. 

My neighborhood in Bethesda, Md. will probably get FIOS this year.  The 
fiber cabling was completed about a month ago.  Termination box is one 
door down the street.
 
> The product is a cable killer though. It will be anywhere from 5 to 10 
> times faster than what cable purports to offer. 

I may well switch from Verizon DSL to the fiber network.  No way I'd go 
to Comcast as long as there's an alternative or two.


Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

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Subject: Re: Verizon Fios - Fiber-to-the-Premises Network
From: Mark Atwood <mra@pobox.com>
Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy!
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:20:08 GMT


Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net> writes:

> The product is a cable killer though. It will be anywhere from 5 to 10 
> times faster than what cable purports to offer. 

There are cable companies (such as SureWest) that are using the same
tech.  There are already cities in the US where the local cableco has
either abandoned the existing coax, or it was never installed in the
first place, who are running F2P *already*.

Plus the big MSOs are looking at the same thing.  The economics of it
are such that it's probable that in a few years, all new cable
installs will be glass, all upgrades of existing plant will be to
glass, and the existing coax will be either abandoned or replaced
piecemeal.

It wont kill the MSOs, just like it wont kill the ILECs. They will
just end up truely being in exactly the same business, providing
exactly the same service, pretty much exactly the same way.


Mark Atwood    |  When you do things right, people won't be sure
mra@pobox.com  |  you've done anything at all.
http://www.pobox.com/~mra  |  http://www.livejournal.com/users/fallenpegasus

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From: Brian Folks <BFolks@OptimaEscrow.com>
Subject: Re: Norvergence - How Do I Get Out" 
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:00:38 -0700


Go to the Federal Trade Commission web site and do a search for 
Leasecomm.  That case seams very similar to the Norvergence 
scam.  http://www.ftc.gov/

Also, if you are an ex-NorV customer I urge you to file a complaint
against NorV AND your leasing company.  These leasing firms are
complicit in this fraud.

Brian Folks

Re:

> Well if all is true then Norvergence is out of business. One thing
> hasn't been addressed though ... what are the existing customers
> supposed to do now? We have signed lease agreements with banks for
> equipment that won't work when Quest turns off the lines again. How
> do we get out of those? Anyone have any ideas??

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I suggest simply ignoring those fraud-
> ulent contracts the banks are holding. FREEZE ALL TELECOM PAYMENTS
> IMMEDIATLY. If the bank wants to sue, that's okay. They *should* be
> suing the remains of Norvergence, since Norvergence got the money
> illegally, through trickery and fraud. Of course the bank will choose
> to pick on the weaker party (yourself) because they assume they can
> twist your arm easier. You'll hear threats about how you will get
> sued, how your company credit will be ruined, etc, but pay no attention.
> The bank knows it will be almost futile to try and sue Novergence,
> so they will work on you instead if you let them, and sadly, many telecom
> managers, company executives will be bullied into compliance with the
> bank's demands for payment, etc. 

> If the bank *does* choose to sue you (not at all certain, IMO) then 
> your response should be to countersue the bank for harassment and
> for being a party to the same fraud as Norvergence. The bank after all
> *did* facilitate the fraud by paying Norvergence money, and they knew
> or should have known that Norvergence had a worthless scheme going
> on. The bank is equally (or more so) able to investigate the collateral
> being put up for the money the bank advanced to Norvergence, the
> 'collateral' in this case being the promises of satisfied customers 
> able and willing to pay. If you recall, we had that one message in the
> Digest several months ago from the lady who said she worked for the
> bank (which had been approached by Norvergence to handle their paper) 
> and she was investigating if the bank should get involved or not. 

> Now myself, being sort of weary about lawsuits and Norvergence's 
> eagnerness to file same, I just printed her message here and said
> nothing, or maybe just some generic, bland response, I do not remember.
> In any event, the bank could have chosen to investigate if they
> wished, prior to advancing money to Norvergence, or handing the
> company's credit paper. That's not your problem. You were deceived
> by a smooth talking salesman. Just ignore those invoices and let the
> bank deal with it as they must. PAT]

Brian Folks

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:39:50 -0400
Subject: PointOne Provides Enhanced Network Access to 20,000 SIPphone
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-21-2004/0002214576&STORY&EDATE=
   
Global Bridge & IM Connect Allows PSTN Callers to Reach SIPphone.com
Customers

    AUSTIN, Texas, and SAN DIEGO, July 21 /PRNewswire/ -- PointOne,
operator of the largest Voice over IP network in North America, today
announced that it is providing the SIPphone, Inc. 
(http://www.sipphone.com ) network with local inbound access from
the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN).  

Using PointOne's advanced communications network, full two-way
interaction between the 100-year-old PSTN and the new IP-based
SIPphone service is now possible.  SIPphone, Inc., a company from
MP3.com and Lindows ( http://www.lindows.com ) founder Michael
Robertson, is a leader in Internet calling, providing its customers
with a no-monthly-fee service to connect to other SIP-based phones.
SIPphone previously enabled its customers to call PSTN numbers.  Now
PSTN users in 18 major markets will be able to dial into local numbers
to make connections to SIPphone users who may be anywhere in the
world, utilizing the IM Connect -- Instant Messenger Connect --
function of the PointOne Global Bridge(TM) network.  

"PointOne moves SIPphone customers one step closer to throwing out
their old, expensive phones," said Michael Robertson, CEO of SIPphone.
"In the coming weeks we are also gearing up to provide a service in
conjunction with PointOne that will allow customers to have dedicated
phone numbers that they can take with them as they travel and connect
from any broadband connection anywhere in the world."  "SIPphone
understands the disruptive power that IP communications brings and
provides users with competitive choices never before possible," said
Sam Shiffman, executive vice president for PointOne.  "Enabling
dispersed communities to communicate is just one of the great promises
this new technology offers."  

IM Connect is technology with similarities to PointOne's StarPoint
IP(TM) service, which allows cable broadband users to make IP voice
calls worldwide over both IP networks and the PSTN.  This gives users
the opportunity to access new and exciting VoIP enhanced services in
the highest quality manner.  SIPphone is a service based on SIP, the
most popular Voice over IP (VoIP) standard, which enables two or more
people to make phone calls to each other using the Internet to carry
the call.  Utilizing SIPphone adapters, consumers can connect any
telephone to the Internet for free calling to other SIPphone users and
for low-cost international calling.

    About SIPphone, Inc.

    SIPphone ( http://www.sipphone.com ) is the leader in Internet
calling.  With no monthly fees, no setup fees and SIP adapters for
standard phones starting under $75, anyone around the world with
broadband access can now enjoy the benefits of free worldwide calling,
clear digital calls, free voicemail, free conference calling and zero
configurations devices based on SIPphone's Plug-N-Dial standard.
SIPphone's service uses an inexpensive device that sits between your
broadband Internet connection and your standard phone that enable
phone calls via a regular phone.  SIPphone was founded by Michael
Robertson, who also founded MP3.com (digital music) and Lindows
(digital delivery of software).  SIPphone is based in San Diego,
California.

    About PointOne

    Established in April 1998, PointOne is the largest VoIP network in
North America utilizing all next-generation technology with over 75%
on-net coverage in the U.S., designed from the ground up to provide
100% IP based applications and services.  Utilizing the industry's
leading IP technologies, along with proprietary patented applications
and processes; PointOne offers high-quality, QoS IP communication
services.  Ranked #1 vendor in performance and reliability by the
largest carriers and service providers in the U.S.; PointOne is a
privately held company headquartered in Austin, Texas.  For more
information, contact us at +1.512.735.1200, or visit us at
http://www.pointone.com .

     IM Connect - Access Numbers:

     Atlanta  
     678-918-5026

     Atlantic City
     609-840-8027

     Baltimore
     410-372-4173

     Chicago
     708-437-9040

     Connecticut
     860-256-4170

     Dallas
     469-449-2560

     Fort Worth
     817-886-2285

     Daytona Beach
     386-267-2650

     Houston
     832-631-1597

     Los Angeles
     323-908-4167

     Miami
     786-206-4270

     New York
     347-427-9019

     N. New Jersey
     973-494-5586

     S. New Jersey
     609-873-8119

     Philadelphia
     610-879-1419

     San Francisco
     415-354-1083

     Seattle
     206-219-5789

     Washington, DC
     202-742-5739

     For Information Contact:
     Steve Braasch
     512-735-1200
     sbraasch@pointone.com


SOURCE PointOne
Web Site: http://www.pointone.com http://www.sipphone.com
http://www.lindows.com 

How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:59:19 -0400
Subject: Senate Panel Sets VoIP Vote
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3384471

By Roy Mark 

U.S. Sen. John Sununu expects a number of challenges to his
legislation exempting Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) services
from state regulations and taxes when the bill goes before the Senate
Commerce Committee Thursday morning.

"There's no question there are lot of members that are working at
different languages for amendments," the New Hampshire Republican told
internetnews.com on the eve of the first ever congressional vote on
VoIP.

While both the Senate and the House of Representatives have held a
number of hearings on VoIP and other IP-enabled services, Thursday
morning's markup session is the first time either chamber has
scheduled an actual vote to consider moving legislation on for a
full-floor vote.

"There's been a host of amendments filed, so now the question is
working through with members on their language, seeing if there is
agreement or compromise," Sununu said.

Full story at:
http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3384471

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