From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Jun 24 01:48:27 2004 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6p3/8.11.3) id i5O5mRZ00652; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200406240548.i5O5mRZ00652@massis.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: massis.lcs.mit.edu: ptownson set sender to editor@telecom-digest.org using -f To: ptownson Approved: patsnewlist Subject: TELECOM Digest V23 #304 TELECOM Digest Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:48:00 EDT Volume 23 : Issue 304 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Exciting News For One UNI-P CLEC's Customers (TELECOM Digest Editor) Panel: VoIP Savings Not Enough To Draw Customers (VOIP News) Vonage Chooses UTStarcom for Unified Messaging Services (VOIP News) Boingo Bets on VOIP (VOIP News) FCC Commissioners Say States Should Leave VoIP Alone (VOIP News) United States: Is State Excise Taxation of VOIP Services (VOIP News) Free VOIP Resource Site - H.323, MGCP, SIP, MEGACO, VOIP PBX (tekjockey) Re: My Policy on Advertisement Messages (Thomas Cawley) Lingo VoiP Phone and RCN Cable Modem (Brian E Williams) Re: International VoIP (John Levine) Re: Telus Prevents Residential Clients From Sending Email (Henry Schaffer) EFFector 17.23: How Doesn't DRM Work? Let Us Count the Ways (Monty Solomon) Re: Norvergence Problems (Alderan) Re: Norvergence Working Here (Steven J Sobol) It's Better to Know - National HIV Testing Day is June 27 (Patrick Townson) Last Laugh! Ham Radio in Hell? 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:26:12 EDT From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Exciting News For One UNI-P CLEC's Customers I was downtown today (4th Wednesday of each month is when my Social Security Disability Check arrives each month) getting some stuff at Sayers (Ace Hardware) and Radio Shack, across the street, when I ran into Duane, the owner/operator/manager of our local phone company Prairie Stream Communications. I was getting a supply of AAA batteries, Duane was getting a few small parts of some kind or another. We got to talking about the latest revolting development, that the courts have ruled in favor of Bell and setting the price for UNI-P guys to stay in business. Duane said "as usual, Southwestern Bell is being very outrageous in their demands. Sprint Local (United Tel in the northern part of Kansas) actually had the nerve to tell us and the government that *their* loops were going to cost $140 per month ... or about three to four times what we (or even *they*!) charge the end users. SBC heard that and said 'well that is what we will charge Prairie Stream also ...' " So I asked him does this mean Prairie Stream will go out of business soon? Duane said, "first of all, none of the telcos, Bell or United, is gonna make any changes until at least after the election. I guess Bush told them to lay low so people don't get even more angry with their telephone bills. His popularity is getting worse and worse with each passing day, he dare not offend even more people; that's why with a wink and a nod, and most people's short memory or grasp of phone- related matters they will largely forget about how Bell does business, etc. " So we are all set until December or January? Duane replied, "Even longer than that ... I am building a C.O. for Prairie Stream." When my eyes finished bulging out of my head, he continued, "A two thousand line switch for Independence, and the rural area. It should be installed before Christmas, maybe around December 1." I asked him how Bell would deal wih the co-location. Duane snorted, rolled his eyes and said, "they wanted fifteen thousand dollars merely to do an engineering survey of their building at 6th and Maple. That now mostly empty building with the switch stuff on the second floor and a empty first floor which used to be a very limited business office (one rep, two cashiers, etc). Before they would even talk about us co-locating there, they wanted that money up front to have their engineer come from San Antonio to decide if we could or not. But of course you know they would eventually decide we could, as long as we further agreed to pay them a few grand each month in 'rent' for a few square feet of floor space, coming and going as *they* wanted to allow us; heat and a/c as *they* thought it should be, etc. "So I just decided to not touch their stuff at all anymore, and bought a building next door to them, across the alley between Maple and Main Street. Got the whole building for only twenty thousand; a sort of old place we will have to do some fix up work on. My eyes bulged again, and I asked Duane, what about the local loops; the last mile of the wiring. He replied, "I told you we were not gonna touch their stuff any more at all, and I meant just that. I was at City Hall earlier this week, and got the necessary permit to excavate in the streets. We are gonna put fiber optic in the conduits all over town; probably work with the same contractors who did Cable One on some of that. The rural areas of southeast Kansas is where things are at for me. And a couple of the rural telephone cooperatives are thrilled to see me doing it." I think he named a couple of them, Totah? and another one will probably work along with him on it also; guys who have hated the Bell for years from before even I was born. He said his best estimate for a clean break from SBC was January 1, 2005, maybe by mid-month. I said it all sounded a bit far fetched; he said so was TerraWorld back in 1995 ... but I made that happen. Yes Duane, you did. Well, I certainly wish him a lot of luck. I think Southwestern Bell is just daring him go to ahead with his plans. He said that right after Prairie Stream first got up and running in 2002, "two or three management people from SBC came over to spy on us and see what we were doing as a UNI-P. They referred to it as a 'courtesy call' rather than 'spying' of course, and we all smiled at one another but they insisted they did not see how we were able to 'make it work'. "Once I get it going, I will also start selling my own DSL instead of reselling theirs or maybe I will continue reselling their DSL as well; why not?" was his concluding remarks. I surely wish him the best. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ From: VOIP News Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:11:04 -0400 Subject: Panel: VoIP Savings Not Enough To Draw Customers Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://cio-today.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_title=Panel--VoIP-Savings-Not-Enough-To-Draw-Customers&story_id=25520 By Erika Morphy NewsFactor Network The barrier to widespread VoIP adoption used to be cost, but now it seems that lower prices are not enough to draw customers en masse -- more nifty applications will be needed, says a panel at the ongoing Supercomm 2003 conference. Lower costs have long been the holy grail for corporates willing to take a flyer on VoIP technology. But now that the price barrier has been broken, ingratitude apparently is setting in. The cheaper phone bills and lower maintenance costs finally possible with the current technology simply are not enough, says a panel at the ongoing Supercomm 2004 conference. In short, equipment manufacturers need to come up with sexier apps than currently on the market if they want the technology to gain traction in the marketplace, they say. Full story at: http://cio-today.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_title=Panel--VoIP-Savings-Not-Enough-To-Draw-Customers&story_id=25520 How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home: http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/ ------------------------------ From: VOIP News Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:14:11 -0400 Subject: Vonage Chooses UTStarcom for Unified Messaging Services Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-23-2004/0002198569&EDATE= UTStarcom's PCMS Platform to Provide Enhanced IP Communications Services for Vonage's Growing Customer Base in the US and Canada SUPERCOMM, CHICAGO, June 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- UTStarcom, Inc. (Nasdaq: UTSI), a global leader in IP access networking and services, today announced that it has signed a contract with Vonage, a leader in the broadband Internet telephony industry, to provide to Vonage its 8250 Personal Communications Management System (PCMS). With UTStarcom's PCMS platform, Vonage can now offer its growing consumer and small business customers advanced, cost-effective IP communication services bundled with its high-quality voice-over-IP (VoIP) service. Vonage will deploy UTStarcom's PCMS voice mail application, which enables customers to access voice messages either by phone, online, or via email. The company will initially offer the service to its customers in the United States and Canada and plans to expand the service globally in 2004. "Vonage chose UTStarcom's PCMS solution for its superior quality and overall product set, which offers flexible features that are compatible with our existing infrastructure," said Michael Tribolet, executive vice president of operations for Vonage. "UTStarcom's system will enable us to strengthen our market position in the VoIP industry, starting with a vastly improved voice mail platform. And with its global corporate stability, UTStarcom provides Vonage with the products, service, and support that will help to ensure that our customers will always have the best possible service." UTStarcom's PCMS platform also provides Vonage with a framework for deploying additional revenue-generating IP services in the future. An end-to- end VoIP solution, PCMS can support various applications, such as voice/fax messaging, Pre-Paid Calling Card, Any-Where Access, Call Monitor, and Call Handling. PCMS can deliver these services over wireline, wireless, or broadband access networks, creating a truly unified personal messaging portal and experience regardless of the access methodology used by the consumer. "UTStarcom's contract with Vonage, a leader in the VoIP industry, provides further opportunities for our IP products to be deployed in the growing small business market," said John Giarolo, vice president of sales in North America for UTStarcom, Inc. "UTStarcom's innovative PCMS service portfolio will enable Vonage to increase customer satisfaction and customer retention. We are committed to a long-term partnership as Vonage's broadband telephony needs expand." UTStarcom's PCMS Platform The UTStarcom 8250 Personal Communications Management System provides tools to migrate customers from a legacy voicemail platform. It offers service providers enhanced service portfolios and revenue-generating services with compelling new features such as Unified Messaging, voice/fax messaging, Pre- Paid Calling Card, Any-Where Access, Call Monitor, and Call Handling. The system complies with IMAP4, SIP, SS7, POP3, and SMTP protocols, and most all other network standards and can be configured as a complete voice mail system, a fully functional unified messaging platform or as a hybrid, containing elements of both systems. Full press release at: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-23-2004/0002198569&EDATE= ------------------------------ From: VOIP News Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:26:14 -0400 Subject: Boingo Bets on VOIP Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=55114 CHICAGO Supercomm Hotspot startup Boingo Wireless Inc. is betting that wireless LAN will become a hot item for cellphones within the next couple of years and that it will be able to make seamless roaming between 802.11 and 3G networks a reality. Meeting with Unstrung today at the massive Supercomm tradeshow, Boingo's president David Hagan laid out his firm's strategy for allowing fast, unobtrusive transfers between WiFi and cellular networks in both consumer and corporate environments (see Voice Over 802.11: Talkin' Loud; Sayin' Something? for more on the voice-over-WLAN technology). Hagan reckons the demand for integration between separate wireless networks will be driven, in part, by wired and wireless carriers that want to cut costs by implementing VOIP on their networks. For carriers currently providing cable/DSL and other wireline services, VOIP is seen as a mechanism that will allow them to inexpensively offer voice services. "The broadband carriers love it," says Hagan. Full story at: http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=55114 ------------------------------ From: VOIP News Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:36:55 -0400 Subject: FCC Commissioners say States Should Leave VoIP Alone Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://telephonyonline.com/ar/telecom_fcc_commissioners_say/index.htm By Donny Jackson CHICAGO--FCC Chairman Michael Powell and Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy yesterday reiterated their positions that state commissions should not regulate voice over IP, a technology both regulators indicated is an interstate service that should be under the FCC's jurisdiction. In his afternoon keynote question-and-answer session, Powell said he believes states like New York that are trying to apply traditional telecom regulations to VoIP providers are 'making a mistake, a very grave mistake' that potentially can harm consumers and the industry. Powell said government regulation is appropriate when there is a danger of market failure or a need to uphold certain core values, such as protecting consumers. Neither circumstance applies to VoIP, he said. Full story at: http://telephonyonline.com/ar/telecom_fcc_commissioners_say/index.htm ------------------------------ From: VOIP News Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:47:41 -0400 Subject: United States: Is State Excise Taxation of VOIP Services on Horizon Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com http://www.mondaq.com/i_article.asp_Q_articleid_E_26845 United States: Is State Excise Taxation of VOIP Services on the Horizon? Helen E. Disenhaus Originally published 2nd Quarter 2004 Freedom from some state and local communications excise taxation soon may no longer be one of the advantages of Voice-Over-Internet-Protocol (VOIP) services. The New York State Public Service Commission (NY-PSC) has just issued a decision classifying Vonage Holdings Corporation, a provider of VOIP services that utilize the public Internet, as a "telephone corporation." While not a tax decision per se, this decision has tax implications for both service providers and end-users. Full story at: http://www.mondaq.com/i_article.asp_Q_articleid_E_26845 (Requires free registration) ------------------------------ From: tekjockey@gmail.com (tekjockey) Subject: Free VOIP Resource Site - H.323, MGCP, SIP, MEGACO, VOIP PBX, IP Date: 23 Jun 2004 20:06:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com We've put on-line a FREE VOIP LEARNING SITE. http://www.intersyncsolutions.com -Learn VOIP (H.323, SIP, MGCP, MEGACO), QOS, IP PBX Technology -Resourceful and Quality links on IP CONVERGENCE TECHNOLOGY -NEWS, LINKS and RESOURCES updated DAILY to keep you informed. GREAT FOR: -TECH PROFESSIONALS looking to get ahead on on VOIP, QOS, IP PBX -Business Professionals looking for VOIP solutions. -Students learning VOIP technology. Tech moves FAST and this will help you get there! http://www.intersyncsolutions.com JUST PURE GOLD....BOOKMARK it and TELL a FRIEND! ENJOY! :-) ------------------------------ From: Thomas Cawley Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:24:52 -0700 Subject: Re: My Policy on Advertisement Messages Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com Jack, It's all good info. I am updating our VoIP training material and I get a wealth of information from vendor, manufacturer and service provider web sites. Just keep up the great work and we'll filter out the noise! Thomas P. Cawley Applied Professional Training, Inc. Office: (800) 431-8488 Cell: (760)443-0899 Web: www.aptc.com ------------------------------ From: sorry_no_email@yahoo.com (BrianEWilliams) Subject: Lingo VoiP Phone and RCN Cable Modem Date: 23 Jun 2004 16:23:08 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com I just ordered a Lingo VoiP phone which arrived on Monday. After two days, I still can't get it to work. I asked RCN if they block TFTP or ports 50, 60, or 69, and they said no. I have a cable modem with RCN, and Lingo thought the problem might be on RCN's end. Hooking up the Lingo box right after the cable modem, it first downloaded the firmware update, and all looks good. Lingo (Primus Telecom.) can see the MAC address hit their servers once, and that's it. No VoiP light and no joy. I will probably RMA the unit and cancel the service unless someone here has some suggestions. I am interested in Lingo because of their unlimited Western Europe calling from the US, so please don't suggest Vonage or any of the alternatives unless they also offer this for free with their $20 a month plan. Obviously Lingo is not ready for prime time, but it's only a matter of when, not if. The phone companies must be wetting their pants over this. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 2004 18:50:44 -0000 From: John Levine Subject: Re: International VoIP Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA > I have a question about the implementation of VoIP for international > calls. From looking at the rate schedule for companies like Vonage > it seems that once they get to the country of origin over the > internet calls are connected via the PSTN from a PBX or similar > switch and completed (perhaps over DOD trunks?) I think that in the US, at least, the VoIP carriers make deals with CLECs and the calls go out via the CLEC's switch. > My question is how do they get away with it, since I can almost > guarantee that this is considered bypass in most countries? That's the question you're not supposed to ask. The U.S. VoIP providers say they only provide service in the US and Canada, and most of them will only ship their equipment and bill to US addresses, but of course once you have the stuff, they can't control where you use it. A few countries such as Panama have tried to filter VoIP data, but I doubt that will be very effective. It's too easy to move the VoIP data around the filters. > The International Settlements Policy is a serious matter in > developing countries since it is international accounting rates that > subsidize most network buildouts to provide basic phone service to > the populace. I realize that's the theory, but there's an awful lot of countries where it's hard to see where all the settlement money went. The U.S. as a matter of policy has been trying to push settlement rates down so I doubt you'll find much sympathy from the U.S. end. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, Mayor "A book is a sneeze." - E.B. White, on the writing of Charlotte's Web ------------------------------ From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E Schaffer) Subject: Re: Telus Prevents Residential Clients From Sending Email Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:14:35 UTC Organization: North Carolina State University In article , Ed Clarke wrote: > You block port 25 outgoing at the router from anything except > authorized SMTP servers. I do this for my own ISP to prevent spam. > The "proper" way to contact an outside SMTP server is via the > "submission" port (587) and to use SMTP AUTH on that port. You have > to tell Outlook/Mozilla/Eudora to use the alternate port ( and TLS/SSL > etc.). > You're going to see more and more of this because of the spam that > comes from "owned" personal computers. Thank your local spammer and > cracker or virus writer for this loss of access to the raw SMTP port. > Telus IS correct in blocking port 25; you should use an authorized > alternate and TLS/SSL instead. Our mail systems people analyzed a few hundred thousand mail messages which came from some ISPs which did not have this outside-port-25-blocking implemented. They divided the incoming mail into two categories 1) mail that came through the ISP's mail servers; 2) mail that originated at an "owned" PC but didn't come through the ISP's mail servers; and then analyzed them with one of the spam-block tools. There was very little spam (10% IIRC) in category #1. Category #2 was 90% spam. I can look up the details if that's important -- but the main message was that we would prefer every ISP to do this, as without this the ISP is basically unable to block compromised "owned" PCs ("zombies"). --henry schaffer hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:06:49 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: EFFector 17.23: How Doesn't DRM Work? Let Us Count the Ways EFFector Vol. 17, No. 23 June 23, 2004 donna@eff.org A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation ISSN 1062-9424 In the 295th Issue of EFFector: * How Doesn't DRM Work? Let Us Count the Ways * EFF Joins Coalition in Fight for Legal Uses of Digital Media * EFF Stands Up for Election Integrity in California E-Voting Lawsuit * RIAA Asks FCC to Lock Down Digital Radio Broadcasts * Let the Sun Set on PATRIOT 218 - "Foreign Intelligence Information" * EFF Seeks Dynamic, Motivated Membership Coordinator * MiniLinks (8): Induce Act = Hollings II? * Staff Calendar: 06.24.04 - Wendy Seltzer speaks at Supernova 2004, Santa Clara, CA; 06.28.04 - Cory Doctorow speaks at Tech Active, London, UK * Administrivia http://www.eff.org/effector/17/23.php ------------------------------ From: nsillc@msn.com (Alderan) Subject: Re: Norvergence Problems Date: 23 Jun 2004 12:07:44 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Not much left to do. I'm waiting for the cellular phone service to be disconnected. We have to keep paying the lease for the magic box, find a new broadband and long distance provider, buy new cell phones service, inform customers and supplyers for the 3rd time that our cell phone numbers has been changed. I feel like an idiot. rwhite@lightship.com (Robert White) wrote in message news:: > galip@hotmail.com (pricepc.com) wrote in message > news:: >> We have been a customer of Norvergence for a year now and had many >> problems. Now the worst problem ever, it looks like the company is >> going out of business. Today Qwest dropped all of their customers from >> the network. No Internet access no phone calls. Also last week >> accidentally I hit the button on my cell phone and get the billing >> information and Norvergence has $1.7 M past due balance to Sprint PCS. >> Any similar experiences or any ideas? Please let us know. > If you know of anyone who needs new services due to this problem > please forward them to me. My name is Robert White, I work for > Lightship Telecom and my number is 781-684-1149. > Thank you, > Bob White ------------------------------ From: Steven J Sobol Subject: Re: Norvergence Working Here Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:15:39 -0500 norVsurvivor wrote: > Dan Pearlman wrote in message > news:: > Dan, > Don't you think it would be a good idea to identify yourself as an > employee of Norvergence? You are still the Market Vice-president > (branch manager) in the Miami office aren't you? While we're at it, > please explain how a Qwest problem created T-1 outages (Matix > customers) and disruption of service to NorV customer with the SOHO > solution (PIC'd lines) at the same time? Maybe NorV just didn't pay > their invoice! Why should he tell the truth? That's apparently not part of Norv's corporate culture. :) JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/ Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED) Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids. ------------------------------ From: Patrick Townson Subject: It's Better to Know - National HIV Testing Day is June 27 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:01:06 -0500 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The following is a public service message presented to the entire internet community by comp.dcom.telecom and other participating news groups by the National Association of People With AIDS ( www.napwa.org ) PAT] National HIV Testing Day Sunday, June 27th is National HIV Testing Day. If you've never been tested, or if you've had unprotected sex or shared a needle since your last test, now is the time to get an HIV test. IT'S BETTER TO KNOW Take advantage of treatment and care options. Visit www.hivtest.org to find a testing location near you. National HIV Testing Day is a project of the National Association of People with AIDS. www.napwa.org ------------------------------ Reply-To: Fred, WB4AEJ From: Fred, WB4AEJ Subject: Last Laugh! Ham Radio in Hell? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:40:53 -0400 A ham radio operator died. He was given the choice of going to heaven or to hell. He looked in heaven, but they had zoning ordinances against radio antennas. He looked in hell and met the devil. He asked the devil if they had ham radio in hell. The devil took him to the ham station showing him all the really neat ham gear that they had there. He then showed him all of the radio antennas. Between the antennas and equipment, one should be able to run every legal mode. The ham said that this was great so he'd choose to go to hell. After he'd gotten settled in, he went to the ham radio station. But none of the equipment would turn on. He asked the devil why none of the equipment worked. The devil replied, "That's the hell of it. 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