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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:48:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 282

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    AirTunes Wireless Music Network (Monty Solomon)
    High-Definition Windows Media 9 (Monty Solomon)
    VeriSign Issues Quarterly Domain Report and Registrant Profile (M Solomon)
    First Quantum Cryptography Network Unveiled (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Zombie PCs Spew Out 80% of Spam (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Zombie PCs Spew Out 80% of Spam (SELLCOM Tech support)
    A Good Telecommunication Dictionary on Line (Francesco Quartuccio)
    Re: Can I Tell If Incoming Call Is From A Pay Phone? (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Web-Linked Cameras Let Parents Play Big Brother (SELLCOM Tech support)
    Cox Communications to Enter More VOIP Markets (VOIP News)
    Industry's First Global Solution for Multi-National Companies (VOIP News)
    New VoIP Player: Lingo (VOIP News)
    Last Laugh! Upromise, AOL Buddy and Grocery Rebates (A Friend)

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:50:47 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AirTunes Wireless Music Network


AirTunes - iTunes unplugged
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/airtunes.html

Unwire Your Home
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/unwireyourlivingroom.html

AirPort Express 
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/

Apple Unveils AirPort Express for Mac & PC Users
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/jun/07airport.html

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:53:30 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: High-Definition Windows Media 9


     Microsoft and STMicroelectronics Team to Enable High-Definition
     Windows Media 9 Content for Consumers on the Leading Set-Top Box
     and DVD Hardware Platforms
     - Jun 8, 2004 12:01 AM (PR Newswire)

Agreements Enable Development of New Class of Integrated Circuits

REDMOND, Wash. and GENEVA, June 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ --
STMicroelectronics (NYSE:STM) and Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) today
announced that the two companies are working together to develop a
series of new integrated circuit components for manufacturers of
consumer electronics products. These components will extend the reach
of high-quality, secure Windows Media(R) 9 Series content, in both
standard and high definition, to a wide range of popular devices such
as set-top boxes and DVD players. Support of Windows Media 9 Series in
products such as these means consumers will be able to easily enjoy
the high audio and video quality that Windows Media provides.

STMicroelectronics, one of the world's largest chip manufacturers and
an acknowledged leader in delivering silicon solutions for digital
set-top boxes, will supply these new components to consumer
electronics manufacturers to enable fast market delivery of appliances
such as set-top boxes, DVD players, digital video recorders (DVRs),
Portable Media Centers, home-networking devices and more. The new
STMicroelectronics integrated circuit components will support a range
of Windows Media 9 Series technologies to help ensure the broadest
possible range of applications. In addition to standard formats, this
support includes the following audio and video technologies:


     *    Windows Media Audio 9, which provides playback of high-quality two-
          channel audio with remarkable compression efficiency

     *    Windows Media Audio 9 Professional, which delivers 5.1 or even 7.1
          channels of discrete digital surround sound at bit rates as low as
          128 kbps, and supports 24-bit resolution and 96 kHz sample rates to
          deliver better-than-CD quality sound

     *    Windows Media Video 9 (including VC-9), which delivers high video
          quality at all bit rates and even supports high-definition video,
          with up to six times the resolution of DVD-video, at approximately
          one-third the bit rate of MPEG-2

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41841753

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:58:29 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: VeriSign Issues Quarterly Domain Report and Registrant Profile


Data Reveal Domain Name Numbers, Utilization, and Renewal Rates Have
                                Reached All-Time Highs

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., June 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- VeriSign, Inc.
(Nasdaq: VRSN), the leading provider of intelligent infrastructure
services for the Internet and telecommunications networks, today
released the VeriSign Domain Report and VeriSign Domain Name
Registrant Profile, highlighting key quarterly market data for domain
name activity around the world. According to the report, more than 4.7
million new domain names were registered during the first quarter of
2004-the highest quarterly figure for new domain registrations in the
history of the Internet.

The profile reveals that more than 63 million domain names have now
been registered, approximately one for every 100 people living in the
world today.  This number is greater than at any time in the
Internet's history, surpassing even the heights that were seen during
the Internet "bubble." Moreover, data reveal that the current base of
domain names is being utilized more actively than ever before, as
measured by renewal rates, look-up rates, and the percentage of domain
names tied to live sites.

As the operator of the global registry for .com and .net, as well as
the provider of two of the root servers for the global domain name
system, VeriSign has a unique view into the expansion and development
of the Internet.  The VeriSign Domain Report and the VeriSign Domain
Name Registrant Profile ( http://www.verisign.com/domainbrief/ ) mark
the second issue in VeriSign's quarterly Domain Name Industry Brief
series. The series provides Internet users across the world with key
statistical and analytical research on the domain name market. Each
quarter, the Brief showcases a quarterly topic related to important
Internet trends, and updates the Domain Report which provides key
industry data.

Findings in this quarter's Brief include both an increasingly strong
rate of new registrations, and a growing stability and utilization
within the existing domain name base. Highlights include:

    -- Overall Growth:  New registrations, renewal rates, and the overall
       number of domain names under registration, all set records in the first
       quarter of 2004.  Showing 21 percent growth over the first quarter of
       2003, total domain name registrations surpassed 63 million domain names
       by the end of Q1.

    -- Increasing Utilization:  In addition to being larger than at any point
       in history, the current domain name base is also being used more
       actively. Over 72 percent of today's domain names now resolve to a Web
       site, up from 55 percent at the height of the boom in December 2002.
       In addition, total domain name resolutions for .com and .net reached an
       average of 11 billion per day in the first quarter, indicating that the
       speculative purchase of domain names that fueled much of the growth in
       the late nineties has been replaced by real Web sites and e-mail boxes,
       to which real people are connecting.

    -- Increasing Globalization:  Country Code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs)
       account for a growing portion of overall domain names, and currently
       represent 40 percent of all domain names registered in the world. The
       majority of ccTLDs are registered in Europe, including .de (Germany)
       and .uk (United Kingdom), which account for twelve percent and eight
       percent, respectively, of all domains registered in the world. In fact,
       .de accounts for more than 90 percent of all domains registered in
       Germany. Several countries around the world have already launched
       Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs), also known as "multilingual"
       domains, which allow for the use of domain names written in non ASCII
       character sets. Other countries are planning to launch IDN capabilities
       this year.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41845612

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:08:17 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: First Quantum Cryptography Network Unveiled


The first computer network in which communication is secured with
quantum cryptography is up and running in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Chip Elliott, leader of the quantum engineering team at BBN
Technologies in Cambridge, sent the first packets of data across the
Quantum Net (Qnet) on Thursday. The project is funded by the
Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

Currently the network only consists of six servers, but they can be
integrated with regular servers and clients on the internet. Qnet's
creators say the implementation of more nodes in banks and credit card
companies could make exchanging sensitive data over the internet more
secure than it is with current cryptography systems.

The data in Qnet flows through ordinary fibre optic cables and
stretches the 10 kilometres from BBN to Harvard University. It is
encrypted using keys determined by the exchange of a series of single,
polarised photons.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995076
 
------------------------------

From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Zombie PCs Spew Out 80% of Spam
Date: 8 Jun 2004 10:46:06 -0400
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


In article <telecom23.279.8@telecom-digest.org>, John McHarry
<mcharryj@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> SELLCOM Tech support wrote:

>> Yes, when a spam site pops up in China, CUT CHINA!!!
>> Yes, when a spam site pops up in Russia, CUT RUSSIA!!

> It is a nice daydream, but it isn't just that it won't be done that
> way, it would be technically "very difficult". The Internet was
> designed to be self healing. True, it appears to hub and spoke out of
> the US at present, but there are all sorts of other paths. If an
> ISP's, or a country's path through the US is cut, its traffic will
> automatically reroute to whoever is still connected that has the best
> path.

Yes, until the one remaining pipe to that location is totally overloaded
and traffic ceases to flow at any reasonable rate.

If the backbone MSPs refused to peer with chinanet or kornet, we would
see a substantially reduced spam level.  But if this was going to happen,
it would have happened years ago.

The reason that you see so much spam now is that the MSPs refused to
take the problem seriously back in 1996 when it was manageable.  I
literally had the abuse guy from uunet telling me that there was no
reason for him to take spamware vendor sites down because there was
nothing wrong with that stuff, back in the late 90s.  But they didn't
take care of it when it was possible to deal with, and now it's
totally out of hand.


--scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Does anyone remember how, back in the
1980's and even as late as 1995 the very idea of cutting off certain
sites -- no questions asked, no votes taken, etc -- just unilateraly
refuse to deal with them was considered completely 'unthinkable'? And
now that it has become quite 'thinkable', now that even the anarchists
are beginning to see some advantages to even a wee bit of government
oversight and control, as Scott points out it has become a lost cause.
I wonder sometimes if we are just marking time, hanging around until 
the bitter end.  PAT] 

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Zombie PCs Spew Out 80% of Spam
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:03:49 GMT


John McHarry <mcharryj@bellsouth.net> posted on that vast internet
thingie:

>> Yes, when a spam site pops up in China, CUT CHINA!!!
>> Yes, when a spam site pops up in Russia, CUT RUSSIA!!

> It is a nice daydream, but it isn't just that it won't be done that
> way, it would be technically "very difficult". The Internet was
> designed to be self healing. True, it appears to hub and spoke out of
> the US at present, but there are all sorts of other paths. If an
> ISP's, or a country's path through the US is cut, its traffic will
> automatically reroute to whoever is still connected that has the best
> path.

Spam hosts in the US get cut quick enough.  There are only a handful
of ISPs who are enabling the foreign spam sites and I am confident
that they are providing that connectivity for consideration.

If the US ISPs were held legally responsible for that which they do,
they would find a way to clean up their act real fast.

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Beamer, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Mini-Splitter log splitter!
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You have said that before, Steve, and I
cannot help but wonder if some of those ISP enablers you mention would
not just go on without the rest of us. I mean, you don't really punish
AT&T or Sprint; they would just laugh at you and continue without you.
PAT]

------------------------------

From: francescoq@katamail.com (Francesco Quartuccio)
Subject: A Good Telecommunication Dictionary on Line
Date: 8 Jun 2004 02:27:58 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi,

This is the first time that I approach the telecommunication "world".
I'd like to know which are the best places on the web where it is
possible to find a good description of telecomunication words,
technology and architecture.

Thanks all.

Cheers,

Francesco

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: (Getting out old rusted horn to give it
a few toots) ... you might consider our online GLOSSARY here at the
Telecom Archives http://telecom-digest.org , I say 'old and rusted'
since it has been years since it was updated. Go in the general archives
and look for the 'Glossary' files. There are four or five lists of
them to pursue at your leisure. Another approach, to get just one or
two terms defined is by using the Telecom Archives Email Information
Service.  *You must use a valid email address where you can get back
stuff in the mail*. Send email to tel-archives@telecom-digest.org .
The subject line does not matter. The first line of text must be the
word REPLY your-valid-email-address. The second line of text must
be the word GLOSSARY word-to-be-defined. Better still, to see a list
of all the commands you can use with the email information service,
send the same letter and use the word HELP as the command. Always 
use upper case commands; always begin flush at the left margin. Or
use the command INFO for more information about the email information
service. If anyone wants to write up a new glossary for modern times,
I would gladly give you credit for it in the Digest. Maybe I should
just print the HELP file here in the Digest sometime soon to refresh
people's memories about how to use it.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Can I Tell If Incoming Call Is From A Pay Phone?
Date: 8 Jun 2004 10:42:30 -0400
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Lisa Hancock <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

> jim evans <jimsnews@houston.rr.com> wrote: 

>> On my cell phone the only information I get about the caller is their
>> phone number.  Is there a way to tell which numbers are pay phone
>> numbers.  That is, callers who are calling from pay phones.

> AFAIK there is no way to tell that an incoming call is from a payphone,
> or any other kind of phone.

If you are operating an 800 line, you will be charged a different rate for
payphone calls and non-payphone calls.  Surely the SS7 stuff warns you
that this is going to be happening?

--scott

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, Scott, it does not.  PAT]

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From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Web-Linked Cameras Let Parents Play Big Brother
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:08:32 GMT


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> posted on that vast internet thingie:

> These Internet protocol (IP) cameras, made by companies including
> Cisco Systems Inc's (NASDAQ:CSCO) Linksys unit and Sweden's Axis
> Communications (SWED:AXIS), function as stand-alone servers that
> stream video over the Web.

Panasonic has a nice selection as well indoor and outdoor wired and
wireless.  We just added them to our product line.  

I couldn't believe it!  A camera with a http server AND a smtp after
pop email server built in!   

It is hard to keep up with all this stuff.   They do think mighty
highly of them though ...

http://www.panasoniccamera.com

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Beamer, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Mini-Splitter log splitter!
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:43:11 -0400
Subject: Cox Communications to Enter More VOIP Markets <voip news>
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1608125,00.asp

By Ellen Muraskin 
 
Add Atlanta-based Cox Communications -- the third biggest U.S. cable
carrier, with 6.4 million basic cable subscribers -- to the list of
carriers ramping up VOIP offerings. The difference here is that the IP
voice expansion is a way to grow its total voice market, which is
presently overwhelmingly circuit-based.

Cox is planning to roll out VOIP services in U.S. markets not already
served by its 7-year-old, circuit-switched Cox Digital Telephone
telephony offering, expanding upon a promotional VOIP launch thus far
limited to Roanoke, Va. According to Bobby Amirshahi, media relations
at Cox, the residential service will be closely followed with a
small-business VOIP package, aimed at Cox's high-speed Internet and
data networking customers.

The news comes as part of a customer win announcement from IP
infrastructure vendor Nuera Communications Inc., of San Diego. Nuera
BTX media gateways, now deployed by Cox in Roanoke, will be added to
serve customers in additional areas.

While many cable companies, such as Comcast and Cablevision, have
entered the telephony market for the first time via VOIP, Cox has a
pre-existing, circuit-switched telephony offering. The VOIP rollout
will resemble Cox Digital Telephone very closely in both feature set
and pricing, according to Amirshahi. This includes three-way calling
and voice mail services, and a range of flat pricing plans, typically
about 10 percent under those of incumbent telcos.
 
Full story at:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1608125,00.asp

How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/

------------------------------

From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:45:42 -0400
Subject: Industry's First Global Solution for Multi-National Companies
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-08-2004/0002189279&EDATE=

AT&T Announces Global VoIP Telework Trials 

        Industry's First Global Solution for Multi-National Companies

    BEDMINSTER, N.J., June 8 /PRNewswire/ -- AT&T today announced it
is conducting trials in Asia and Europe for a global VoIP telework
service, targeted to multinational companies, that it expects to
introduce in 2005.

    The service is designed to allow a business to provide its
employees a suite of advanced calling features in the home or hotel
environment using readily available broadband connections. Eventually,
the service will afford remote workers secure, high-speed connections
directly to their corporate offices.  The trials are scheduled to
begin in the third quarter of this year in Australia, Hong Kong,
Singapore and the United Kingdom. The service is built upon the proven
capabilities of AT&T CallVantage(SM) Service, launched in March of
this year and currently being rolled-out across the United States.
Today's announcement signals the industry's first business
VoIP-enabled global telework solution using high-speed Internet
connectivity.

"Maximizing the value of a global IP networking environment and the
productivity and mobility it can provide is one of the top priorities
of large enterprises today," said Cathy Martine, AT&T's senior vice
president for Internet Telephony, Consumer Marketing and Sales.  "If
the promise of IP can be harnessed with remotely deployed employees
and combined with a robust portfolio of VoIP-enabled networking
solutions, it will positively influence a business' Return On
Investment model. This in turn should stimulate more demand."  Trial
participants will enjoy easy access to AT&T's advanced VoIP calling
features. These include features such as Personal Conferencing, which
will make it quick and easy for participants to establish impromptu
conference calls with up to ten individuals.  Voicemail with eFeatures
will allow participants to hear their messages by phone or PC and
forward them to anyone in the world via e-mail.  Call Logs will allow
participants to track and monitor their calling habits or move
frequently called numbers into their personal Phone Book for
click-to-dial access. 

Responding to customer demand, AT&T is VoIP-enabling its entire
business portfolio, providing solutions to companies that are evolving
their networks to deliver IP-based services and applications to their
own customers, suppliers, employees and partners.  AT&T is driving
toward seamless internetworking among all the various elements
required for IP-based business communications. And, AT&T is the only
VoIP provider with interoperability agreements with the five leading
equipment manufacturers -- Alcatel, Avaya, Cisco, Nortel Networks and
Siemens -- which is critical to delivering integrated solutions.  The
company also is focused on delivering new business voice applications
and services like IP-Centrex, call center applications and Telework
solutions.  These are especially critical for the rapidly growing
international teleworking community. The service provides portability
of features and significant cost savings compared to making calls from
hotels or using mobile roaming service for traveling professionals,
affinities and communities that have need to communicate frequently.

"Today's announcement is the latest in a series of moves by AT&T as it
continues to reaffirm its position as a networking leader committed to
delivering high-value, integrated services, solutions and applications
for business customers and consumers," said Martine Beginning in 1997,
AT&T began actively using VoIP solutions to address the needs of
multi-national corporations. This early adoption of IP has led the
company to its current position as a leading provider of VoIP
solutions over its MPLS (Multi-Protocol Labeled Services) -based
global network. It delivers these services over any data network
including ATM, Frame Relay and IP-VPN.  AT&T was the first business
VoIP service provider to offer voice quality backed by standards-based
service level agreements. The company currently supports hundreds of
business VoIP customers and over the last year alone has experienced a
fourfold increase in the number of business customers using its VoIP
services.

    About AT&T
    For more than 125 years, AT&T (NYSE "T") has been known for unparalleled
quality and reliability in communications.  Backed by the research and
development capabilities of AT&T Labs, the company is a global leader in
local, long distance, Internet and transaction-based voice and data services.

SOURCE AT&T
Web Site: http://www.att.com 
Photo Notes: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19991018/ATT

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:26:50 -0400
Subject: New VoIP Player: Lingo
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/45377

3 months free, then $20 a month

A new VoIP offering dubbed Lingo <https://www.lingo.com/guWeb/> from
Primus Communications goes live this week, and promises users
Unlimited Local and Long-Distance Calling in the US, Canada and
Western Europe free for three months. After three months, the service
is being offered for $19.95 a month; the feature set is currently
being dissected by our veteran VoIP shoppers in our VoIP forum
<http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,10442660~mode=flat>. While
many analysts predict the death of smaller VoIP operations once the
cable and bells launch VoIP, $20 a month is hard to beat provided the
service doesn't stink -- Time Warner expects to charge $50 a month for
VoIP to non-bundled customers when they launch their service this
summer.

[Comment: "provided the service doesn't stink" seems to be the
operative phrase here.  In one of the reader comments below this
article, "unixbum" from Canada posted:

"I had VoIP from Primus in Canada and I could not take the absence of
competency as a company anymore and I cancelled. Will never go back to
Primus even if it becomes free. The only thing that worked was the
phone. They were billing me for calls to other primus VoIP numbers
(Free), changing my plans (repeatedly) without telling me and that's
just the start. Then when I cancelled they were to let my phone run for
the remainder of the contract and they cut if off two days later.

"Two of my friends got Primus VoIP. One had 3 VoIP gateways sent to
him and they put his first phone number in the wrong province then
they moved it to the correct province and city and then they cancelled
the number on him. Then they assigned him a new number.

"The other friend had two VoIP gateways sent to the wrong address
before they sent it to the correct one. They started billing him for
the calls that were being made by the gateways that they sent to the
wrong address and he had not even made a phone call yet because he had
not received any equipment. It was apparently quite hard to explain to
the rep that if they send it to the wrong address he just might not
get the unit. It might be useful to require a signature when they send
out a gateway.

"Just my $0.02. Avoid Primus."

Of course, the above report came from Canada -- maybe things will be
different in the United States, and maybe they won't.  Unless I was
something of a risk-taker, I think I'd wait and see what sort of
reviews show up in the BroadbandReports.com VoIP forum
<http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/voip> before I jumped on this
service. Also, they seem to have a very small pool of local
ratecenters in which they can offer numbers, so unless you live in or
near a major city the chances of getting a local phone number are not
real high.]

Article plus reader comments at:
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/45377
Additional thread on Lingo:
http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,10442660~mode=flat

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Date: 8 Jun 2004 11:43:11 -0400
From: A Friend <friend@net>
Subject: Last Laugh!  Upromise, AOL Buddy amd Grocery Rebates 


Probably not for publication under my name:

> I have never heard of UPromise; does anyone know how it works or what
> it does?

See www.upromise.com.  It gives you small rebates on groceries and other
stuff that go into a college savings account.  After nearly two years, my
account contains $2.39 so I'm glad my daughter isn't planning to go to
college any time soon.

R's,
 
A Friend

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