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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 7 Jun 2004 01:26:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 278

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Web-Linked Cameras Let Parents Play Big Brother (Monty Solomon)
    TI Stands by Digital Cinema Strategy, Despite Sony (Monty Solomon)
    Who Got the Message? There's a Way to Know (Monty Solomon)
    Whose Data Is It, Anyway? (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Memories of Illinois Bell in Better Times (Jim Haynes)
    Re: Your Radio Is Calling (Eric Friedebach)
    Re: Your Radio Is Calling (Joseph)
    Re: Zombie PCs Spew Out 80% of Spam (SELLCOM Tech support)
    Re: Can I Tell If Incoming Call Is From A Pay Phone? (Henry)
    Re: Can I Tell If Incoming Call Is From A Pay Phone? (J Kelly)
    Re: Ringing Multiple Devices (was Re: Bye, Bye Ma Bell) (Daniel Rosenzweig)
    Public Copy Cost Unchanged (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Spam and Virii Continue Unabated, Getting Worse, IMO (Rob Warnock)
    Free IP PBX Tutorial (ShaperSifter)   
    Last Laugh! Funny Ebay Listing - Guy Trying to Buy a Green Card (Elly)

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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:55:19 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Web-Linked Cameras Let Parents Play Big Brother


By Doug Young

TAIPEI, June 6 (Reuters) - Big Brother is getting a whole lot of
little siblings.

New surveillance cameras allow anyone with a broadband Internet
connection to keep a 24-hour watch on nearly anything from anywhere.

Want to monitor your house from the office? Connect one of the cameras
to an Ethernet or wireless computer network at home, then navigate
your browser to a Web site linked to an Internet address assigned to
the camera.

These Internet protocol (IP) cameras, made by companies including
Cisco Systems Inc's (NASDAQ:CSCO) Linksys unit and Sweden's Axis
Communications (SWED:AXIS), function as stand-alone servers that
stream video over the Web.

In Europe alone, IP cameras are expected to account for about 20
percent of a surveillance market forecast to be worth 376.5 million
euros ($460 million) in annual sales by 2008, up from less than five
percent today, according to IMS Research.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41810887

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:01:57 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TI Stands by Digital Cinema Strategy, Despite Sony


LOS ANGELES, June 4 (Reuters) - Semiconductor maker Texas
Instruments Inc. (NYSE:TXN) will stick with its current strategies
for making and selling microchips used for digital projection
even as it faces new competition from Sony Corp. (TOKYO:6758), a
top executive said on Friday.

Texas Instruments was in Hollywood this week to show film
industry executives, reporters and cinematographers a
projection system it calls "DLP Cinema" that is based on a TI
"2K" microchip.

The Dallas-based company's presentation follows by one day a similar
demonstration by Sony Electronics in which it showed a new Sony
projector using its own "4K" chip it claims offers picture resolution
and contrast superior to 2K technology.

Sony's projectors are a new entry in the still-developing market for
digital projection -- also known as digital cinema -- that has been
dominated by Texas Instruments since its inception in the late 1990s.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41803063

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 01:00:02 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Who Got the Message? There's a Way to Know


By MARK GLASSMAN

A NEW service promises to pull back the curtain on anyone hiding
behind the common white lie "I never got your e-mail." Users of the
service, DidTheyReadIt (didtheyreadit.com), can clandestinely track
when and where their e-mail is read.

The service, which has already drawn complaints from privacy
advocates, offers a new and quiet way to harvest behavioral
information about friends, colleagues and potential consumers.

"There's a type of covert surveillance here," said Marc Rotenberg, 
president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a nonprofit 
privacy advocacy group. "Just from a technology viewpoint, it's 
basically an evil service."

E-mail programs like Eudora and Outlook have long offered an optional 
return-receipt feature, which prompts the recipient of a message to 
inform the sender that they have opened the message, and another 
service, Msgtag (www.msgtag.com), notifies users by e-mail when their 
outgoing messages have been opened. But DidTheyReadIt is the first 
such service to keep itself a secret from the recipient, as well as 
the first to report on where the message was read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/03/technology/circuits/03spyy.html

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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 02:05:00 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Whose Data Is It, Anyway?


By JEFFREY SELINGO

WHEN Tomm Purnell's uncle, Keith Cochran, died last year, Mr.
Purnell's mother received two of Mr. Cochran's computers. One of them,
a laptop, is password-protected, and even though Mr. Purnell considers
himself somewhat of a computer geek, "the really obvious passwords,"
he said, like the names of Mr. Cochran's cats and combinations of his
Social Security number, have failed.

"I guess he assumed that whoever came in would figure it out," said
Mr. Purnell, a physics student at Colorado State University. "I have
no clue what's on there, but I'd like to find out."

While terminally ill, Mr. Cochran, a programmer, left a full list of
passwords for his work files with his employer, Mr. Purnell said. But
he failed to do the same thing with the personal files, so they are
now inaccessible.

With home computers largely replacing filing cabinets as the secure
storage place for financial records, tax returns and even sentimental
pictures, the problem confronting Mr. Purnell may become more common.
Since most people do not leave a list of passwords before they die,
their relatives and lawyers must often figure out how to break into
the computer themselves or hire someone to do it.

Mr. Purnell said he intended to keep trying to unlock his uncle's
laptop. But for some survivors, the effort of gaining access to a
loved one's data is not worth the time. In many cases, they simply
erase the hard drive and get rid of the computer without ever knowing
what was on it.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/03/technology/circuits/03data.html

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Subject: Re: Memories of Illinois Bell in Better Times
Reply-To: jhaynes@alumni.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas Alumni
From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:24:28 GMT


Teletype had several in-plant cafeterias.  The food was good - the top
executives ate there.  Seems like I heard there was a competition
among the various Western Electric operations, Teletype included, for
the quality of the in-house cafeteria food.

Teletype kept the R&D cafeteria open all morning.  Some people would
grab breakfast or coffee and a doughnut before the work day began; and
then the various engineering groups would normally head to the
cafeteria for midmorning coffee break.  This had a marvelous effect on
communication: if some engineer had discovered something interesting
it would get handed around by word-of-mouth as the groups interacted
during coffee breaks, and soon every engineer in the company would be
aware of it.  Another company I worked for had vending machines for
coffee and sodas and kept the engineers in cubicles of three or four
people each.  There was almost no informal communication among the
engineers, and the company suffered for it.  So if I were a management
consultant I would tell companies they must do something to get the
technical staff out of their cubicles and mingling with one another.
Delivering goodies to their cubicles is the worst thing you can do;
put the goodies in a central place so they will have to get up and go
to them and mingle with others while they are there.  --

jhhaynes at earthlink dot net

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From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: Re: Your Radio Is Calling
Date: 5 Jun 2004 17:52:34 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


In TELECOM Digest V23 #277 TELECOM Digest Editor noted in reponse
to an article I had contributed:

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Eric's comments about the first
transistorized pocket radios reminds me of the one I had while in high
school, 1956 or so.  They only had AM signals of course, and you had
to put this plug in your ear which looked like a hearing aid. People
who did not know me, and some who did, would see me walking
around with that plug in my ear, and say "Oh how unfortunate that at
your young age you have to use a hearing aid. Are you mostly deaf
or just a little bit 'hard of hearing'?   PAT]

Pat, just to clarify, the coments should be attributed to Arik
Hesseldahl, the Forbes writer, not Eric (me). Also, I wonder what your
response was to those who thought you were wearing a hearing aid? Me,
being a smart-ass, would have said "Huh? Wadja say?".

This brings to mind my little trick when I find myself in a large city
that looks the other way at panhandling. Wear Walkman-style earphones.
Just stick the plug in your front pocket if you don't have a radio. It
works.

Well, most of the time. One time a guy started following me around,
yelling "Ten! Twenty! Fifty!". I don't think he meant cents, either.


Eric Friedebach
/VoIP: prank calls to ex-girlfriends has never been cheaper/

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom>
Subject: Re: Your Radio Is Calling
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:27:05 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NONOcom


On 5 Jun 2004 11:23:00 -0700, TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response
to Eric F:

> People who did not know me, and some who did, would see me walking 
> around with that plug in my ear, and say "Oh how unfortunate that
> at your young age you have to use a hearing aid. Are you mostly deaf
> or just a little bit 'hard of hearing'?   PAT

I get that as an updated phenomenon.  My mobile phone has Blue Tooth
wireless handsfree.  When I'm wearing the Bluetooth unit people ask me
if I have a hearing aid!

           remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

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From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Zombie PCs Spew Out 80% of Spam
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 23:21:55 GMT


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> posted on that vast internet thingie:

> Four-fifths of spam now emanates from computers contaminated with
> Trojan horse infections, according to a study by network management
> firm Sandvine out this week. Trojans and worms with backdoor
> components such as Migmaf and SoBig have turned infected Windows PCs
> into drones in vast networks of compromised zombie PCs.

Spammers certainly are resourceful.  I believe that it will never
clean up until the ISPs who enable the foreign spam sites are held
responsible for that which they enable.

Most spam now points to a foreign website.  All of these foreign 
websites have a US ISP who is enabling connectivity.

You want to fix spam?  Hold the ISPs like att.net, level3.net,
gblx.net, and savvis.net and sprintlink.net etc responsible.  Then
when the foreign ISPs discover that their link to the USA has been
cut, watch how fast they crack down on the spam websites.

If there was a city in North Dakota where the ISP was enabling spam
websites they would be cut in a New York minute, but if the spam site
is in China or Russia or Brazil they somehow have immunity.

Deal with the ISPs who are giving the foreign ISPs immunity and watch
how fast they clean up their act.

Why give foreign ISPs "carte blanche" to host spam sites that we would
not allow domestic ISP.  Hold the US ISPs responsible for what they
are enabling and importing!

Hold US ISPs RESPONSIBLE for that which they enable and import into
the USA!  Oh! Oh! but that would interfere with the internet!!!  Hey,
Not as much as spam and viruses are interfering with the internet!!

Yes, when a spam site pops up in China, CUT CHINA!!!  
Yes, when a spam site pops up in Russia, CUT RUSSIA!!

Watch how fast they clean up their act (and hey, maybe some 
spammer fingers will hit the ground as well)!

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Beamer, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Mini-Splitter log splitter!
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Steve, how do you 'hold AT&T responsible'
for anything they do? Ditto with Sprint? Wouldn't dealing with the 
innocent bystanders punished as a result be more of a hassle than dealing
with the spam a few others generate? You know there would be a jillion
letters daily from people wanting to know why *their* email had not gotten
through. You rather deal with all that instead of the jillion pieces
of spam you get instead? I mean, you know AT&T nor Sprint would ever
give any sort of straight answer to *their subscribers* about what was
going on. Are you in a position to drop a large number of emailers out
of the loop?  Essentially AT&T and Sprint would just wind up rebuilding
the net and dropping *you and me* out of it. They are never going to
compromise on anything.  PAT]

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From: henry999@eircom.net (Henry)
Subject: Re: Can I Tell If Incoming Call Is From A Pay Phone?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:06:59 +0300
Organization: Elisa Internet customer


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: 

> And someone here recently mentioned having
> a home phone years ago of the xxx-9xxx variety and frequently being
> questioned by an operator about whether or not it was a pay phone.  PAT]

I can add a sort-of 'me too' to this. My parents' phone number was
xxx-9xxx. One day when my car broke down I had to call them collect from
a payphone. I gave the operator the details and she asked me to wait.
Then I heard her key in some code and I heard the robot voice come back
and tell her "not coin". I think this must have been in the '70s some
time, in Wisconsin.

Cheers,

Henry

------------------------------

From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: Can I Tell If Incoming Call Is From A Pay Phone?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:50:00 -0500
Organization: http://newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com


On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:00:12 -0500, jim evans
<jimsnews@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:58:39 -0500, jim evans
> <jimsnews@houston.rr.com> wrote: 

> On my cell phone the only information I get about the caller is
> their phone number.  Is there a way to tell which numbers are pay
> phone numbers.  That is, callers who are calling from pay phones.
> jim 

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most cell phones are a lot like one
> of my older caller-ID units, with just enough space or memory or
> what have you to allow a single line with a number, nothing
> more. On one of my newer units (a cordless phone fron Uniden with
> caller ID built into the handset) I get the whole story; the
> number and some attempt at the name, or 'wireless caller', etc. I
> think all you can do is attempt to correlate the data you recieve
> with a cross reference  directory from the net or elsewhere.  Any
> other ideas, anyone?  PAT]

> Seems like I read a long time ago that
> pay phone numbers has some unique characteristic.  

> jim

> TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Frequently yes, but not always. In
> many communities pay phones had suffixes beginning with '9' as in
> xxx-9xxx. Or sometimes '8'. But that was not always the case. With
> older phones which have been around for many years that is still
> generally the case, but how does one know if EXChange-9503 is an
> older line or not with those characteristics. And someone here
> recently mentioned having a home phone years ago of the xxx-9xxx
> variety and frequently being questioned by an operator about
> whether or not it was a pay phone.  PAT]

My home number is a xxx-9xxx number.  That number was assigned to me
about 7 years ago (actually three sequential numbers in that block as
at that time I had a modem and fax line coming in).  Never had anyone
wonder if it was a payphone before, but it does occure to me that most
payphone numbers I have seen start with 9, usually 99xx.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well years ago at least, Illinois Bell
reserved the 99xx series for their own internal use such as 9900 was
the business office (in each exchange), 9904 was the directory
assistance supervisors private line, 9905 was the Group Chief Operator's
private line, etc. 

9915 and 9916 were the infamous loop arounds guys would use to avoid
toll whenever possible. They were supposed to be for repair
technicians working outside their territory to be able to reach the
'proper' 611 clerk. (611 went to various trouble desk clerks in
various central offices.) To get the 611 the tech wanted, he would use
a phone in the 'proper' exchange. Dialing EXChange 9915 would take
9916 off hook and re-dial 611. Then some smart aleck discovered that
in the three or four seconds of dial tone in his ear before the
extender kicked in and dialed 611 he instead could dial whatever he
wanted. Quick fingers could easily punch out seven or ten digits
before the auto-dialer on the extender would kick in and dial its 611
in vain to equipment which at that point was no longer listening. He
would get his call instead of the 611 repair clerk getting an extended
call from a technician. 

Same smart aleck failed to remember that the telephone company issues
bills to itself on its own internal lines and that someone, somewhere 
has to review those bills and okay them internally for write off or
whatever telephone company does with its own bills. Two or three
months after this scam got underway, some underpaid flunky working
out of the central office who had never before in his lifetime ever 
seen a single charge on the 9916 line (since it theoretically was only
dialing 611 when a call to 9915 triggered it) suddenly started seeing 
mountains of calls to numbers around the world at high prices (please
remember AT&T did not have any 'plans' in those days) originating on
9916. Since the flunky did not intend to take the blame for 'his
people' making those calls in their idle time, he decided to tap the
line and see what it all about. Smart aleck got careless also and 
instead of limiting calls to radio station contest lines or pay phones
or hotel switchboards or other places where a trace would lead no where
he made a call to his *mother*, so that when the toll fraud investigator
called and asked 'mother' do you remember who you spoke with at (date
and time), 'mother' was more than happy to say, "oh, you are referring
to my son; such a good boy and so smart with telephones."  That's all
the toll fraud investigator needed to hear, and as 'they' say, the jig
was up. Smart aleck came home from work the next day to find the
fraud investigator sitting on his front porch to tell him "We found out
about the 9915/9916 gag, and tomorrow at this time, you're gonna get
cut, and I for one don't care if you ever are able to get service
again or not." Smart aleck had to hire a lawyer who was at least a wee
bit smarter than he was to go file an appeal before the Illinois
Commerce Commission. And because the Commission (in those days at
least) was as corrupt as the rest of the Illinois Democratic Machine
led by Mayor Daley, the lawyer had to take about a thousand dollars
cash to 'spread around' the Commission. It was an expensive lesson for
the Smart Aleck to learn, and took about ten days to get his phone
service turned back on. Soon thereafter, telco did away completely
with the 9915/9916 loop arounds.   PAT]

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From: danr_18@yahoo.com (Daniel Rosenzweig)
Subject: Re: Ringing Multiple Devices (was Re: Bye, Bye Ma Bell)
Date: 6 Jun 2004 16:14:49 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Yep -- I currently have Callvantage ring my home phone and cellphone at
the same time ... when the phone rings and I pick it up, it tells you
that you have received a callvantage call.. so you press the '1' key
and the call goes through. The press of the '1' key is needed, to make
sure that a person picked up at one of the locations, instead of an
answering machine. Especially needed if you tell it to call each
number one after the other.

 ... No more waiting around the house for an important
phonecall ... (from someone who doesn't have your cellphone number
... or for someone you don't want to give your cellphone number ...)

Hank Karl <notgiven@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.260.7@telecom-digest.org>:

> On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:00:29 GMT, joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
> wrote:

>>> VoIP services have to compete on features.  For example, AT&T's
>>> CallVantage offers a 9-way conference bridge, and the ability to have
>>> a call ring up to five devices.  Both of these features can be done on
>>> a landline, but I don't know of any providers who offer the multiple
>>> ring capability.

>> Do you mean up to five different numbers ring at once, as in, say,
>> your CallVantage line, a landline, and a cellphone?  THAT would be a
>> wonderful feature.

> According to http://www.usa.att.com/callvantage/what/features.jsp,
> (click on the "locate me" option)  the numbers can ring at once or in
> sequence (your choice).

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Vonage does the same thing. A call
coming into your Vonage line can ring another phone (such as your
cell phone) at the same time. So if you do not want to give out your
cell phone number, give out your Vonage number instead.  PAT]

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Public Copy Cost Unchanged
Date: 5 Jun 2004 19:01:15 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I was at the library and used the public copying machine.  It was 
10 cents a copy.

I realized this price is the same since I was a kid, back when a
payphone call was a dime.  Bus fares, now $2.00 were 35 cents.

One example of improved technology holding its costs down.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Or maybe the Library trustees have
dictated the price is to be kept low, by subsidizing it a little. I
do not think you can 'blame' it all on technology. After all, telco
has had lots of technological improvements in that time, as have 
busses, but look at their prices now. 

Here in Independence, KS at our crown jewel Riverside Park and Zoo, the
500 acre zoo has a lot of very exotic animals and Monkey Island, where
a couple dozen simians live (on land, surrounded by a body of water in
relative comfort for a bunch of monkeys) in a 'castle'. The minature
train which takes people around the park complex only costs fifty
cents per ride, and the carousel only costs one nickle -- five cents
 -- to ride and that has been the price since sometime in the 1920's,
when a very wealthy citizen gave an endowment of several million
dollars to the City of Independence specifically to the Riverside Park
and Zoo with the condition it would ALWAYS be free and that the
carousel would ALWAYS cost five cents. The endowment was to make sure 
the gentleman ALWAYS got his way, until at least a hundred years after
his death, which occured about 1930. There is also a minature golf
course, a swimming pool, and a softball stadium, and a band concert 
shell (ala Hollywood Bowl). All free or for a few cents in the case of
the train ride, the minature golf and the carousel. The entire story
of this fascinating crown jewel is at http://www.forpaz.com  (forpaz = 
Friends of Riverside Park and Zoo). Unfortunatly, Ralph Mitchell was
also a high-ranking member of the KKK back in the 1920's, but that
rather embarassing fact is pretty much ignored these days, seventy
years after his death. Now days, we just enjoy his precious gift to 
the City of Independence, even the black people in our integrated
community. When I was a little tyke five years old my mother would
bring me on the Interurban from Coffeyville to see the monkeys and
ride the carousel, for of course, five cents. PAT]

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From: shapershifter@hotmail.com (ShaperShifter)
Subject: Free IP PBX Tutorial -- Whitepaper, PDF's Tutorials
Date: 6 Jun 2004 22:14:20 -0700


Hi All,

A good IP PBX tutorial on:

http://www.intersyncsolutions.com/pages/3/index.htm

good articles on IP PBX, links and whitepapers...

Enjoy!

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Subject: Re: Spam and Virii Continue Unabated, Getting Worse, IMO
Date: Sun,  6 Jun 2004 19:18:16 PDT
From: rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock)


Pat,

Read your recent lament re increased spam volumes. Indeed, traffic
seems to be *way* up. Something the RISKS Digest editor has done that
might be helpful to you is to request that submitters include a
specific uncommon string in their "Subject:" headers,
e.g. "[tcomdgst]", which your moderation approval script could strip
out (so it doesn't get exposed in the list. [Obviously, you'd need to
use some circumlocution in announcing the magic string, too, for the
same reason.]

Yes, this is ugly, but Peter Neumann [RISKS moderator] reports that it
has helped significantly.


-Rob

PS: Clearly you also need to lightly/quickly scan submissions *not*
containing the magic string, just in case newbies don't know about it,
but it should be acceptable for those articles to be somewhat delayed,
and it should certainly speed up the whole process.

Rob Warnock			<rpw3@rpw3.org>
627 26th Avenue			<URL:http://rpw3.org/>
San Mateo, CA 94403		(650)572-2607

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sounds like a good idea. I will give it
some very serious thought. Thanks.   PAT]

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From: bighaaa@hotmail.com (Elly)
Subject: Last Laugh! Funny Ebay Listing - Guy Trying to Buy a Green Card
Date: 5 Jun 2004 15:31:23 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Made me laugh ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=302&item=6300129594

Elly

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