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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 29 May 2004 14:47:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 267

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Buffalo Spammer Headed for Prison (Marcus Jervis)
    Re: Phishing:  Latest Spam/Scam; Very Dangerous (jdj)
    Re: DSL vs. Cable Modem? (Geoffrey Welsh)
    Re: Consumer Advocates Tell FCC That VoIP Telephone Customers (John Levine)
    Re: Consumer Advocates Tell FCC That VoIP Telephone Customers (Tony P.)
    Re: Why Would I Want a Local T1? (Steven J Sobol)
    Re: Taking my Cell Phone to Switzerland? (John Levine)
    Re: Modern Telecom Frustration (Tony P.)
    Antique Phone Parts Available (Rich Greenberg)
    Bell Canada Buys Canadian Assets of 360 Networks  (Geoffrey Welch)
    Memories of Illinois Bell in Better Times (TELECOM Digest Editor)

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From: Marcus Jervis <marcusjervis@hotmail.com>
Subject: Buffalo Spammer Headed for Prison
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 05:06:31 +0000


'Buffalo Spammer' Is Sentenced To Prison for Junk-Mail Barrage

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- A man who sent 850 million junk e-mails through
accounts he opened with stolen identities was sentenced to prison
Thursday after telling the judge the case against him was overblown
and had no victims.

"I obviously regret this whole involvement," Howard Carmack began
before being sentenced to three-and-a-half to seven years in prison on
charges including forgery, identity theft and falsifying business
records.

He went on to accuse Attorney General Eliot Spitzer of treating him
unfairly, calling the case politically motivated. Mr. Carmack was the
first person prosecuted by Mr. Spitzer's office under New York's
identity theft statute.

"I don't see any victims," Mr. Carmack said.

"I'm having a heck of a time figuring out why you think everybody is
unfair to you," Erie County Judge Michael D'Amico responded before
imposing the maximum sentence.

"You think it's OK to take somebody's identity and use it for whatever
purpose you want," the judge said. "You caused a great deal of harm to
a lot of people."

Atlanta-based Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said
Mr. Carmack ran 343 illegal e-mail accounts under false names from
2002 until his arrest last May, and used them to send unsolicited
e-mail ads for things like get-rich-quick schemes and sexual
enhancers.

A jury convicted Mr. Carmack March 31 of defrauding EarthLink and
eight men from New York, Ohio and Washington, D.C., by either
obtaining EarthLink accounts in their names or using their corporate
e-mail addresses to sell products.

EarthLink obtained a $16.4 million civil judgment against Mr. Carmack,
37 years old, last May in Atlanta and sought a criminal conviction and
prison as further deterrents.

Crimes like Mr. Carmack's are not uncommon but spammers can be elusive
and difficult to stop. The case against Mr. Carmack took more than a
year to crack as he hid behind stolen identities.

"Before spammers send one more spam e-mail, we think they should
remember that what happened to Howard Carmack can happen to them, the
lengthy prison sentence by the state and the multimillion dollar civil
judgment against him by EarthLink," said Karen Cashion, EarthLink's
assistant general counsel.

The ISP has yet to receive any payment from Mr. Carmack on the civil
judgment, Ms. Cashion said.

Spitzer spokesman Brad Maione said the case was important because it
highlighted the threat of identity theft on the Internet, where
criminals lure victims with fake Web sites and e-mails seeking bank
account numbers and passwords.

"As soon as you begin to take a look at one fraud scheme another seems
to pop up very quickly," Mr. Maione said.

Prosecutors estimated Mr. Carmack was making $60,000 to $70,000
annually before his arrest last May.

Wayne Felle, Mr. Carmack's attorney, said he is appealing his client's
conviction. Mr. Felle attributed Mr. Carmack's comments before
sentencing to nerves and said they did not properly reflect his
client's attitude. He said Mr. Carmack is sorry for his actions.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press

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From: jdj <jdj@now.here>
Subject: Re: Phishing:  Latest Spam/Scam; Very Dangerous
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:43:55 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


It's not only crackers, spyware and trojans collecting your info from
your computer, etc., trashers and divers are also reselling whatever
personal and account info they find in the trash instead of using it
themselves.

And don't think you're safe just because the info you discovered was
stolen from you has not been used in the past few years. "It hasn't
been used yet" means just that and not "therefore it will never be
used".

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From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Re: DSL vs. Cable Modem?
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 12:55:39 -0400
Organization: Primus Canada


Lisa Hancock wrote:

> Each says they're far superior (faster data and more reliable) and
> cheaper than the other.

Of course they do -- what kind of advertising campaign would it be if
they didn't?

> Any opinions on cable modems vs. DSL in today's world?

I've dealt (both for myself and on behalf of others) with a couple of
cable companies and several DSL companies and I've got to tell you
that, once the basic requirements such as availability in the area and
the quality of the cabling are met, your experience as a customer
depends not on whether the media is cable or DSL, but on the design,
implementation, and maintenance choices made by the service provider.
They choose what bandwidth they make available to you, how they
provision their network, how they connect it to the rest of the
internet, how they provision and run their servers, etc.

Some time ago Bell Canada's ISP, Sympatico, ran ads implying thet
their DSL service was faster than the cable company (Rogers) because
it was "never shared" -- but that is misleading, if not an outright
lie, since DSL subscribers DO share connections past the DSLAM (or, in
the case of the Nortel equipment, the line card drawer.)  When people
asked me if cable's shared medium made a difference, I'd tell them
that it had as much effect as sharing a driveway has on your drive to
work.  (Bad analogy, though, since it might be very easy to get
completely blocked in on a shared driveway.)

Sympatico's network was better able to carry the traffic that its
subscribers generated, leveraging both Bell Canada's extensive network
 -- built as much for their commercial customers as for their
residential broadband subscribers - and their IP connectivity.
Rogers, on the other hand, was not well served by their @Home
membership, nor particularly by their arrangement with Teleglobe after
@Home collapsed.  Both companies had terrible reputations for their
customer service.

Aurora Cable, with a limited territory north of Toronto, was another
story: perhaps because of their limited geographical coverage, they
built a very robust network and provided excellent connectivity.  I
heard plenty of praise and not a single complaint about them.

Similarly (though not to the same magnitude) before Shaw traded their
Eastern operations to Rogers, their internet service had a better
reputation than Rogers' did.

The quality of the service depends on what the provider decides to
invest in it, not on which media is used.

Tony P. wrote:

> Far as I know, you can't get consumer cable IP feed without
> subscribing to cable television.

Rogers Cablesystems charges you an extra $10/month for cable internet if
you're not a cable television subscriber.

Tony P. wrote:

> Try it some time. Around here you get basic cable along with the Internet
> service because there isn't any feasible way for them to filter it.

If that is true, then I should cancel my Rogers analog cable service
($50/month) and my Primus Canada* DSL service ($35/month; would be
more if I didn't own my own DSL modem) and subscribe to Rogers cable
internet ($45/month plus $10/month since I'm not a cable subscriber)
and -- as you say -- I'll get analog cable anyway, saving me at least
$30/month (more if I take into account that the cable service includes
modem rental or that dropping my DSL service permits me to switch my
phone line from Bell Canada to Sprint Canada, which I currently can't
do if I want to get DSL service on it.)

Given that Rogers offers two independent add-on packages for their analog
cable service(basic is channels 2 through 26, plus 59 through 74; one
package is channels 27 through 42, and the other is channels 46 through 58),
I doubt that they have any problem filtering out basic cable for
internet-only customers.

Shucks, $30/month isn't a fortune, but it would pay for a coffee a day ...

* I should cancel my Primus Canada DSL service anyway: their USENET
news server is absolutely terrible and, in the few weeks I've been
their customer, I've had problems logging in to fetch my e-mail,
problems connecting PPPoE sessions, and even problems dialing up as a
workaround.  Also, despite what looks like diverse IP connectivity by
Primus Canada and through Primus USA, throughput is disappointing
especially at peak times.

Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
[This space for rent]

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Date: 29 May 2004 03:32:08 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Consumer Advocates Tell FCC That VoIP Telephone Customers
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Comment: These so-called "consumer advocates" sound like they want
> to kill VoIP, not protect consumers.  Hopefully the FCC will realize
> that "enhanced" 911 is currently IMPOSSIBLE due to the portability
> of VoIP devices

Don't be silly.  The vast majority of VoIP phones are plugged in one
place and stay there.  For the sort-of-911 on my Vonage phone, I tell
them where the phone is, and they program their system to call the
local 911 center if I dial 911.  Yeah, now and then I take the phone
with me on trips, but the other 99% of the time it's right where 911
thinks it is.  I suppose it would be nice if there was a note
displayed to the 911 operator to verify the phone's location if
possible, but that's a tiny detail.

Regards,

John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, Mayor
"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Consumer Advocates Tell FCC That VoIP Telephone Customers
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 05:04:06 GMT


In article <telecom23.266.2@telecom-digest.org>, VOIP News <voip news> 
says:

> Comment: These so-called "consumer advocates" sound like they want to
> kill VoIP, not protect consumers.  Hopefully the FCC will realize that
> "enhanced" 911 is currently IMPOSSIBLE due to the portability of VoIP
> devices (that is, you can plug one in anywhere there is a broadband
> connection, and the VoIP provider simply has no way of knowing where
> you are).  Therefore any absolute requirement for enhanced 911 would
> have the effect of killing VoIP.  I don't know what "consumers" these
> advocates purport to represent, but they sure do not represent me nor
> my views on the subject.  I'd love to know where these people get
> their funding.

E-911 is completely possible. The people just can't see the forest for 
the trees. 

If they can build GPS into a cell phone, they sure as hell can build it 
into a VOIP router and then send that info to a server that does a 
database dip, finds out the jurisdiction and send it to the PSAP. 

But stupidity rules, as usual. 

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From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Why Would I Want a Local T1?
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:45:47 -0500


xasdfg123456@yahoo.com <xasdfg123456@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
> From what little documentation the previous admin here left, I see 12
> trunks in operation: six lines for our Panasonic DBS and six other
> lines for other purposes (faxs, modems). Is this something that our
> local carrier would not be able to provide for us? Not all of these
> are necessary anymore. It just seems like it would be much less
> expensive (like hundreds) to use the lines already in the building.

Well, twelve lines is half a T-1 worth of bandwidth. Are you using the
other 768K of bandwidth for data? T-1s can carry up to 1,536KB/s of
data, up to 24 voice lines, or a combination.


JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA   PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net
Domain Names, $9.95/yr, 24x7 service: http://DomainNames.JustThe.net/

"someone once called me a sofa, but i didn't feel compelled to rush
out and buy slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86,
Windows 98/2000/2003

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Date: 29 May 2004 03:26:22 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Taking my Cell Phone to Switzerland?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> I would seriously recommned *not* to rent a phone.  Prices for phone
> rental are high and you can actually buy you a second-hand compatible
> phone to use with the service cheaper than renting a phone.

So I discovered.  Renting a phone costs $50/wk, so I just bought a
used Moto GSM 900/1800/1900 for $48 on eBay, which should show up next
week.

Then I called up Cingular to turn on international roaming so I can
use my SIM to pick up SMS messages in Switzerland, since I have my
Vonage voicemail set to send notices with phone numbers to my SMS, and
Cingular assures me that inbound SMS don't cost extra no matter where
they're delivered.  Then I can switch to a prepaid Swiss SIM to return
the calls.

But the Cingular rep told me that they couldn't turn on int'l roaming
without knoing what phone I plan to use.  This sounds wrong based on
everything I know about GSM, but I guess I'll just have to wait until
the Moto phone shows up to find out.

If I have to call Cingular and give them the IMEI every time I move
the SIM to the other phone, this makes their system considerably less
useful.

Regards,

John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, Mayor
"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.

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From: Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.verizon.reallynospam.net>
Subject: Re: Modern Telecom Frustration
Organization: ATCC
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 05:01:54 GMT


In article <telecom23.266.5@telecom-digest.org>, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com 
says:

> Why I question modern technology:

That's ok -- I used to work for the local AG's office. I tried calling a 
friend of mine there a week or two ago and got RNA. Hmmm ... punch up 
their state Centrex number and get through. 

Looks like the first line in the hunt group has a problem. They usually 
don't notice it during the day because call volume is such that it 
doesn't get chalked up to anything. But call late afternoon and you get 
RNA. 

I finally got hold of my friend on her cell phone. They're aware of the 
problem but neither they nor the specialists from state telecom can fix 
it. I told em' I'm on the state purchasing agreement, call me in and 
I'll fix it by putting a 600 ohm resistor across the trunk side (They're 
all loop-start lines!) and then put my test set on the main pair and 
dial from another pair and see if I hear the ring. If I do I know it's a 
bad circuit card, if I don't it's time to call Verizon and tell them to 
fix it. I told her I'd only charge em' $500 for their own damned 
stupidity. 

Frustrates the hell out of me. 

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From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Antique Phone Parts Available
Date: 29 May 2004 14:11:33 -0400


I am cleaning house and found a few items that may be of interest to
telephone collectors:

1) 2 each 4 prong sockets and cover plates (for mounting on a wall box).

2) 2 each Adapters, 4 prong male to modular female.

3) Not sure exactly how to describe this.  Its a cord and connector
   block for hard wireing a phone.  Since a picture is worth 10,000
   words (or so they say),  See:

     http://www.panix.com/~richgr/cord.jpg

All free to a good home except that if you are not close enough to pick
up, I would appreciate the cost of the postage back.


Rich Greenberg N6LRT Marietta, GA, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 770 321 6507
Eastern time zone.   I speak for myself & my dogs only.     VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val, Red & Shasta (RIP),Red, husky                    Owner:Chinook-L
Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/   Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

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From: Geoffrey Welsh <reply@newsgroup.please>
Subject: Bell Canada Buys Canadian Assets of 360networks
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 14:28:39 -0400
Organization: Primus Canada


Patrick, please forgive me if this has been covered and I just haven't
seen it because of my ISP's lousy USENET news server ... but I can't
believe that there has been no mention of this deal.  I'm certain that
it will be a headliner in Monday's Telecom Update.

On Wednesday May 26th, Bell Canada -- Canada's largest telephone
company, incumbent carrier to nearly two thirds of the population, and
part-owner of some smaller regional telephone companies -- announced
that they were buying, for $CDN 275 million, the Canadian assets of
360networks, including CLEC GT Group Telecom, which 360 purchased soon
after both emerged from bankruptcy protection.  To make the deal
palatable to Canada's Competition Bureau, Bell will sell some of
360/GT's retail business and bits of the network in eastern Canada,
where Bell is already dominant, to Call-Net Enterprises, the Canadian
company that owns Sprint Canada.

http://www.bce.ca/en/news/releases/bce/2004/05/26/71251.html

The deal serves many purposes for Bell Canada.  The official
explanation is twofold:

(1) Although it has a dominating presence in eastern Canada, its
battle with Telus -- which was formed by the merger of regional
incumbent carriers in the West but which has been working its way into
the larger Eastern markets -- has been heating up and the acquisition
gives Bell Canada significant long-haul and municipal fiber, as well
as retail customers, in the heart of Telus' territory.  The fact that
Montreal-based BCE, owner of Bell Canada, chose to hold their "annual
and special meeting" and make the announcement in Vancouver symbolizes
the escalation of Bell's muscling in on Telus' territory.

(2) Bell, which is profitable, inherits $CDN 1.5 billion of
360networks' tax loss provisions, which 360 couldn't use for lack of
profits to tax but Bell can use.  Although 360 comes out $275 million
ahead in cash, Bell is essentially being paid well over a billion
dollars to take 360's Canadian operation off their hands.

However, unofficially, the acquisition 'sends a message' to companies
like Manitoba Telecom Services ("MTS") and SaskTel, who are attempting
to a piece of Bell's profitable business in eastern Canada: although
MTS is 22% owned by Bell Canada, it is trying to buy (Bell has filed
an unjunction to block the deal) Allstream in order to make it a
national player, and SaskTel, through its Navigata division, has been
slowly pushing into Bell territory.  The message, clearly, is that any
smaller regional carrier looking to profit by taking a chip off Bell's
gem had better be prepared to defend their own treasure against a
powerful competitor.

Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>
[This space for rent]

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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:54:39 EDT
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Memories of Illinois Bell in Better Times


Or really, all the old Bell System; Illinois Bell was nothing special or
different, but it is the one of which I had some knowledge, and the last
chairman of AT&T prior to divestiture came out of Illinois Bell, and I had
a very passing aquaintence with Charles Brown, from when we both lived in
the Rogers Park neighborhood in Chicago. Then he went on to live in
Glencoe, a northern suburb as the president of Illinois Bell, before taking
on the task of chairman at AT&T. That would have been the middle 1970's.

How does the old song phrase it? "Things to painful to remember, we simply
choose to forget" ... who wrote or popularized that song?  Anyone remember?

One incident I remember pretty well took place in the early 1960's, in
an IBT central office called 'Chicago-Wabash', 65 East Congress Parkway,
corner of Congress and Wabash Avenue, south end of downtown Chicago,
an older, and 'original' part of the city,  dating back to even before
the great fire of 1871, and the central office building itself dating
back to the teen years of the 20th century, entirely step by step, except
for a 'newer' section which was crossbar. Not without good reason was
it called the 'Wabash Cannonball', a person calling into or out of the 
WABash central office always got a lot of 'bangs' and 'pops' in his
eardrum from the relays opening and closing as the switch trains would
set up, travel their route around the office, and occassionally derail.
And if weather-wise it was a hot, humid night in July or August when
the windows were open (no air conditioning in those days; a/c was a 
relatively new invention which arrived in most business places only in 
the early to middle 1960's) -- well, when the windows were open on 
Wabash Avenue/Congress Parkway, the 'Wabash Cannonball' could be heard
up to a block away by passersby walking down the sidewalk; extremely 
noisy; the din was just as bad as the Western Union public office a
few blocks away; but at WUTCO, after a few seconds of silence while
all the teletype machines were 'resting', only to have one machine
wake-up with a soft whirr as the gears engaged and one or more of the
machines started 'chattering' its news, Wabash CO was different. On
one of the rare instances when there was no call being set up or taken
down, the switches would sit there silently for a few seconds but then
with no advance notice of course -- neither at WUTCO was there any advance
notice -- all of a sudden BANG! the switches would move into action
and a switch train would move out to wherever. During 'busy hour' times,
the switches would be going constantly, since Wabash CO was a very busy
downtown office. It was only late at night, or maybe a Saturday or
Sunday evening during the summer when the occassional breaks of quiet
could be heard off and on. This was the setting for the story I will 
tell you now.

The office clerks there at Wabash CO were all gone over the weekend,
especially on Saturday night. The repair clerk (the person you used to
get when you dialed '611') was about the only person around, since
'611' was manned 24/7, along with one 'frames tester' or guy to take
care of the office in general. As you would probably expect, calls to
'611' were few and far between late on Saturday nights in the downtown
area, with stores and offices all closed, etc. But there was a sort of
weird case there at Wabash.  One subscriber (they did not know who he
was) seemed to be fond of calling 611 and making obscene calls to the
repair clerk. It went on for several months; on a regular basis; this
sick puppy would always, at minute or two past 6 PM on Saturday
night, always dial 611, talk nasty to the clerk and eventually hang
up. I guess the guy figured there was no way to 'trace his call' so he
would not get caught.

It got to be quite a joke among the technicians; this one lady was
always on duty Saturday evenings at 6 PM, and always got the brunt of
the 'humor'.  The one technician on duty would glance at his watch,
note that "it is about time for your 'boy friend' to call"; they
(clerk and technician) would both get a big laugh out of it, and they
could almost set their watch by that call coming in.

One Saturday night, the tech got a bright idea: let's catch the joker
in the act. I'll tell you how we will do it. There are so few calls
coming in to 611 early Saturday evening it won't be a problem. When 
your phone lights up for 611 I want you to put on your very best
'recorded message voice' and tell the caller, "Repair service has 
changed its number. The new number for repair service is '290'. Please
hang up and dial two nine oh. Thank you, this is a recording." Then,
click off.  We are going to answer him tonight on the test board.

Sure enough, at 6:02 PM repair buzzed and lit up; the lady sat down
to take the call, and in her best recorded message voice said just
what the tech had told her, "Repair service has changed its number.
The new number is two nine oh. Please hang up and dial two nine oh.
Thank you, this is a recording" ... Click! 

In a minute or less, the call arrived on the test board. "Get over
here and get the board!" the technician told her. She hurried over
and plugged in. The tech plugged in on the 'supervisors jack' next
to her and listened silently. Sure enough it was their man, her 'boy
friend' as the tech would tease her from time to time. Within seconds
the caller started his sick puppy routine and the tech's eyes lit up
as he quietly moved his fingers over to a couple of the keys on the
test board. Then instantly, just as he flipped the keys and saw that
the lock was in place he spoke up: ah, you son of a bitch, we finally
caught you!  Dead, very shocked silence for a couple of seconds, then
a click as the caller disconnected. But not to worry ... when the
technician flipped the keys he locked up the connection, stopped the
tandem from collapsing, holding the caller in place, regardless of
what he did with *his* phone. You used to be able to do that with 290
on the test board. 

When the guy did not pick up his receiver again, the tech, now more
detirmined than ever started manually ringing the line. Three or four
regular rings, then a prolonged ring, then three or four little 
dings, another long blast, etc. After about twenty minutes of this
type of manual ringing, the line was finally answered by this little
mousy man in a timid voice, 'hello?'   The tech used the old Earnestine
routine: 'have I reached the party with whom I am connected?'  After a
little stalling, "I was just walking past and answered the phone when
I heard it ringing, I am just a janitor, call back on Monday when someone
is here" and an equally adamant technician telling him "you are the
person I need to speak with; tell me what your number is" the man
finally told him his number (there was no caller ID back in the 1960's
either).

Tech said, "well, thank you, but I am not sure I can believe you on
your number. Tell ya what I am going to do. Its about 7 PM and time
for my supper break. I am going out to eat now and I will just leave 
the 'shoe' up on you until I get back from supper. When I do, then
I will go in the frames and check to be certain you are telling the
truth."  Across the street and up a block from the c.o. was a Pixley
and Ehlers Cafeteria. In the 1960's there were as many Pixley and Ehlers
cafeterias downtown as there are McDonald's and Burger Kings today,
almost every block or two. Pixley and Ehlers were places where office
clerks ate during the day time; drunks and winos and other down and
outters hung out all night. Always very wonderful meat loaf, mashed
potatoes, macaroni and cheese, etc. Steaming mugs of hot coffee. 
Everyone either loved P&E Cafeterias or they hated them, just like
McD and BK places today, which took over the world about 1975 or so
when P&E went out of business in Chicago.

Tech comes back from his supper break about an hour later. He said he
did walk in the frames, "and by golly, the man was telling the truth.
The number he gave me earlier was correct."  "What we did was tell the
Business Office on Monday; they slapped his wrist is all, told him not
to make obscene phone calls in the future. I know we never did hear 
any more about it from him or the Business Office."

PAT

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