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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 24 May 2004 14:51:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 255

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Should Regulators Treat Internet Phone Service Like a Phone? (VOIP News)
    Sharing DSL Wirelessly w/o Hardwiring Any Computers (Daveman750)
    WCPE and WFMT May Lose Satellite Carriage (Neal McLain)
    Saga Continues (was Re: Verizon Wireless Detail Missing) (Gordon Hlavenka)
    An Opportunity to Become A Wireless Professional (singhsagarsk)
    VOIP Tutorials - Choice Links For Learning VOIP (sitekeeper)
    Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!! (Frank@nospam.biz)
    Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!! (Fred Atkinson)
    Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!! (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!! (SELLCOM Tech support)
    Re: Vonage Questions (charlie3)
    Re: Taking my Cell Phone to Switzerland? (Gene S. Berkowitz)
    Re: Taking my Cell Phone to Switzerland? (Michael D. Sullivan)
    Re: Western Union Public Telegraph Offices (Frank@nospam.biz)
    Re: Test-Driving a Cellular GPS Service (Frank@nospam.biz)
    Re: Question About Verizon Home Voicemail (Dave Hauss)
    Re: 802.16(Wi-Max) (charlie3)
    Re: Jeff Pulver Statement on New York Public Service Commission (Al Gillis)
    Re: 5.8GHz 2 Line Phones (SELLCOM Tech support)
    The Fight Against Spam, Part 3 (Monty Solomon)
    Nortel Meridian Contractors Wanted (Bob Hoffman)    

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:42:56 -0400
Subject: Should Regulators Treat Internet Phone Service Like a Phone?
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?f0024_BC_WSJ--InternetTelephon&&news&newsflash-financial

Should regulators treat Internet phone service like a phone or the internet? 

By MARK WIGFIELD
The Associated Press

The Wall Street Journal 

Internet phone service could be the next big thing in
telecommunications, promising more competition, new high-tech features
and free or low-cost calling to anywhere in the world.

But first, regulators have to decide: Is it more Internet, or more
telephone?

The distinction could be critical to the fledgling service. Because
while the telecommunications industry has a long history of heavy
government intervention, Internet services have been only lightly
regulated so far. Moreover, supporters of Internet calling say that
subjecting the newcomer to the same kinds of strict rules that
entrenched telephone companies operate under could strangle the infant
in its cradle.

State regulators and their backers argue that taking a laissez-faire
approach to Internet calling threatens to weaken long-established
consumer protections for telecommunications that exist only because of
the regulators' stick. They want to ensure that services like 911
emergency calls and subsidies for rural service survive.

The Federal Communications Commission, however, has signaled a clear
interest in minimizing regulation of Internet telephony, known as
voice over Internet protocol, or VOIP. In February, in response to a
request from a tiny Melville, N.Y.-based VOIP provider, pulver.com
Inc., the agency issued a ruling that said pulver's Free World Dialup
and other similar VOIP services are to be considered interstate
information services subject to FCC jurisdiction, not telecommunications 
services subject to much stricter state and federal regulation. The
FCC's reasoning: Services like Free World Dialup use only broadband
networks; unlike some other VOIP services, their calls never touch a
traditional phone network.

FCC Chairman Michael Powell further emphasized the agency's
antiregulatory stance regarding these kinds of VOIP services by saying
the agency will assert "significant authority to act if conflicts
arise between state and federal law as a result of the (pulver)
ruling."

Full story at:
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?f0024_BC_WSJ--InternetTelephon&&news&newsflash-financial


How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/

------------------------------

From: dsimcha@yahoo.com (Daveman750)
Subject: Sharing DSL Wirelessly w/o Hardwiring Any Computers
Date: 23 May 2004 18:38:53 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi,

I would like to share DSL between 2 desktop computers.  Is it
possible, since I don't have a phone jack near either, to share DSL
wirelessly by using 2 wireless adapters, one for each computer, and
placing a wireless router near the phone jack across my house (well
within range)?  In other words, I would like all my computers to
access my DSL wirelessly and to have no "main" computer.  If so, how
exactly would that work?

Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:38:04 -0500
From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com>
Reply-To: nmclain@annsgarden.com
Subject: WCPE and WFMT may lose satellite carriage.


As I noted in my June 25, 2003 essay ("WFMT, Cable FM, and Classical
Music" <http://tinyurl.com/2nu93>), the company formerly known as United
Video (now the UVTV distribution arm of Gemstar-TV Guide International,
Inc.) relays WGN Superstation and two classical-music FM stations (WCPE
Wake Forest and WFMT Chicago) via satellite, on Galaxy 5, Transponder 7:

      WGN Superstation video on the main channel.
      WGN Superstation audio on subcarriers.
      WCPE stereo audio on subcarriers at 5.58 and 6.12 MHz.
      WFMT stereo audio on subcarriers at 6.30 and 6.48 MHz.
      YUSA monaural audio a subcarrier at 6.80 MHz.

On March 2, 2004, EchoStar (Dish Network) agreed to acquire several of
Gemstar-TV Guide's assets, including the UVTV Distribution division
("EchoStar And Gemstar-TV Guide Sign License And Distribution, Asset
Purchase, And Settlement Agreements" <http://tinyurl.com/2kycw>).
This acquisition closed on April 6, 2004 ("Gemstar-TV Guide Completes
Previously Announced Sale of Assets to EchoStar"
<http://tinyurl.com/2be5l>).

WGN-Superstation's owner (Tribune Company) has apparently decided to
discontinue its uplink arrangement with UVTV.  It's apparently
building its own uplink facility, and plans to begin uplinking WGN
Superstation as of the end of June.

As far as I know, neither UVTV nor Tribune intends to continue uplinking
any of those radio signals after that date.  If that happens, neither
WFMT nor WCPE will be available via satellite.

WCPE is trying to find a berth on some other G5 transponder, or, failing
that, on some other satellite.  According to a message I received from
Deborah Proctor, WCPE's station manager/chief engineer: 

> It appears that WGN is making a move to half-analog, half-
> digital, and will need ALL of the transponder bandwidth.  
> Therefore, WCPE, WFMT, and Yesterday USA are out at the 
> end of June.

> I've not talked with WFMT, but Y-USA and WCPE are very 
> worried. We serve a great deal of traffic via that here-
> to-fore tried and true site.

> I am under the impression that WFMT will take this as the 
> end and pursue it no more.  WCPE will be left to fight the 
> battle until the last listener is served.

I have not been able to get any information about what WFMT intends to
do.  Maybe Deborah Proctor is right: WFMT may just let the matter die.

Neal McLain
nmclain@annsgarden.com

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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:16:23 -0500
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Saga Continues (was Re: Verizon Wireless "Detail Missing" New)


The story so far:

On my February Verizon Wireless bill, I was informed that my detail 
billing would be discontinued unless I called a certain 800 number by 
June 30.  After June 30 I could order detail billing for $1.99/month.  I 
did nothing.  My March bill included detail billing, plus a charge of 
$5.00 for said detail.  I called the 800 number and pushed all the right 
buttons, then called CS and got a credit for the $5.00.

The April bill showed that credit, plus a $2.58 charge for "Detail 
billing -- partial month".  I waited with breathless anticipation to 
learn what adventures might befall my May bill.

Well, the May bill has arrived and here's the poop:

The May bill includes another $5.00 credit for "Detail billing" under 
the "Adjustments" section.  Last month, the credit showed as a negative 
charge under "Services".  However, this bill does NOT include the call 
detail -- AND it includes $2.99/month for "Roadside Assistance".  Oy.

So I called them back.  They don't know why there's no detail
included; the computer says it should be there.  They are sending me a
duplicate bill and waiving the $6.00 fee.  I will not be surprised if
I discover the duplicate does not have call details either.  WRT the
Roadside Assistance charge: This service was given to me as a free
promotion when I renewed in February.  However the promotion was only
for three months -- those months have now expired so I'm being
charged.  The Roadside Assistance never appeared on my bill until now
because it was free.  That's their story and they're sticking to it.

Now the Roadside Assistance is (theoretically) canceled and the charge 
therefor has been (theoretically) credited to my account.  I think I've 
been credited twice for the $5.00 Detailed Billing charge that I should 
only have been credited once for; this tends to make me believe the root 
problem is incompetence -- see 
http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/h/HanlonsRazor.html

I now await the duplicate May bill (with or without detail) and am giddy 
with impatience to learn what thrills will be packaged in my June bill.

William Robison wonders,

> Is this the point where you send a check for what you believe is
> the correct balance, along with a note that you are cancelling
> your service with them as they will not honor the contract?

I think I will wait until I've seen my June bill, then summarize the 
whole process for our friends at http://www.citizensutilityboard.org/ 
with a copy sent to Verizon.

For a number of reasons, I'd prefer to keep the Verizon service for now.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: singhsagarsk <singhsagarsk@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:44:33 -0000
Subject: An Opportunity to Become a Wireless Professional
Reply-To: telecom-news@yahoogroups.com


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------------------------------

From: sitekeeper@intersyncsolutions.com (sitekeeper)
Subject: VOIP Tutorials - Choice Links For Learning VOIP
Date: 23 May 2004 12:21:31 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


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------------------------------

From: Frank@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!!
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 05:28:14 -0700
Organization: Cox Communications


Carl Navarro wrote:

> Well it finally happened.  I had two people send me 11+ pages of faxes
> and I just got a message of overuse on my Efax free account!

> They think I'm going to pony up $12.95 for montly service to keep my
> number.  Wow, I wonder if they read the part about I was looking for a
> fax when I found them?

> So, any suggestions?  I'm not paying real money per month for a
> service I use one or two times a month.  And to think, all I wanted to
> do was save a step in having to scan a document into a file.

> Carl Navarro

There's no free lunch.

------------------------------

From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
Subject: Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!!
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:40:07 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net


Well, 

	Then don't sign up for a pay account.  The worst they can do
is shut down your free account.  It's not like it is something that
you are paying for.

	Police?  Did you ask to see their badges or police ID?  Did
they have them? (yes, of course I am injecting a little bit of humor
here, I don't mean to be negative.  Put on a smiley face).  

	I have an Efax account myself.  I rarely get anything on it.
But, it is there if I need it.  If I were a traveling on business, it
would be a great way to receive faxes regardless of where I was.  

	When I was on a training trip in Denver, my office in
Washington hit a major snag.  Due to my paricular expertise, I was the
only person who had a chance of getting it resolved (and it would've
been a major disaster if it was not quickly addressed).  As I was
running across the countryside from radio site to radio site and not
near a fax machine, it was a while before I got somewhere I could
receive a fax with the data I needed.  I couldn't begin making phone
calls to appropriate people to begin a resolution process without it.
Efax would've been great back then.  Of course, that was at a time
when not that many people had heard of the Internet and Efax probably
wasn't yet around.  

	By the way, does anyone know of an online fax service that
allows you to paste text into a form, put a telephone number into a
text box in that form, press submit, and have that fax go through?  It
is just that I send faxes so rarely (and since I have the free Efax
account, I can't send faxes over that number), that I'd rather pay by
the fax rather than by the month.

	Ciau for now.  


        Fred 

On Sat, 22 May 2004 22:13:34 GMT, Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
wrote:

> Well it finally happened.  I had two people send me 11+ pages of faxes
> and I just got a message of overuse on my Efax free account!

> They think I'm going to pony up $12.95 for montly service to keep my
> number.  Wow, I wonder if they read the part about I was looking for a
> fax when I found them?

> So, any suggestions?  I'm not paying real money per month for a
> service I use one or two times a month.  And to think, all I wanted to
> do was save a step in having to scan a document into a file.

> Carl Navarro

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:31:15 -0500
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelectronics.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelectronics.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!!


Carl Navarro wrote:

> Well it finally happened.  I had two people send me 11+ pages of faxes
> and I just got a message of overuse on my Efax free account!

I wouldn't worry about it.  I've gotten this warning twice so far, each 
time the warning was followed by another message telling me the account 
had been closed -- yet my efax number continues to work just fine, 
months later.

I mostly just get junk, which is the reason I signed up for it in the 
first place; why buy paper for junk faxes?


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
           "If we imagined he could _find_ the car,
        we could pretend it might be fixed." - Calvin

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: The Efax Fax Police are After Me!!!
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:02:46 GMT


Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org> posted on that vast internet
thingie:

> Well it finally happened.  I had two people send me 11+ pages of faxes
> and I just got a message of overuse on my Efax free account!

> They think I'm going to pony up $12.95 for montly service to keep my
> number.  Wow, I wonder if they read the part about I was looking for a
> fax when I found them?

> So, any suggestions?  I'm not paying real money per month for a

I hope I am not going too far in left field here but I found this
awesome little program that creates PDF  www.pdf995.com  and it
costs $9.95 (I bought the guy's whole thing for $19.95).

For that you can print to this pdf printer and then it even opens
an email for you to send it AND the pdf reader so you can be sure
you are sending what you think you are.  I do that instead of FAXing
for just about everything these days.

(I am in no way connected to them except as a happy customer.

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Beamer, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Mini-Splitter log splitter!
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

------------------------------

From: charlie@cdsdetroit.com (charlie3)
Subject: Re: Vonage Questions
Date: 23 May 2004 06:12:59 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I just tried the voip link test and got average results from my
comcast cable connection.  I have years of experience with internet
voice chat.   The principle one today is www.paltalk.com . It is
designed to work adequately with decent dialup and mostly it does. 
May be a lot of the troubles with viop is the provider trying to use
more bandwidth than really needed for a phone quality call. I'd
rather have a reliable connection than stereo quality sound that skips
and misses.  May be the voip companies should allow the subscribers to
choose what sound quality they want.

------------------------------

From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Taking my Cell Phone to Switzerland?
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:30:46 -0400


In article <telecom23.254.9@telecom-digest.org>, johnl@iecc.com says:

> I'm going to a conference in Geneva in July, and it'd be nice to have a
> phone.  What's the best way to do it?

> I have a Cingular tri-band phone, with one of the band being GSM.
> Cingular says they have roaming agreements with most of the GSM carriers
> in Europe, so if I put my GSM SIM card into a phone that works on Euro
> frequencies, it'll work there, albeit at rather high roaming rates.

> Cingular will sell me a Nokia 3100 "world" phone that works on GSM 1800,
> but 360 days out of the year I'm in North America where my current phone
> is just what I want and fits the car kit in my truck.

> Can I easily rent a phone when I get there, either an empty one into which
> I plug my SIM card, or one with its own card and a number I can use?  Or
> should I rent one here before I go?  Or something else?

> Regards,

> John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
> Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Mayor
> "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

In 2000 I rented a tri-band from Omnipoint (now Voicestream) for a
trip to Europe.  Renting it here was convenient, as I could make sure
it was fully charged, I was able to put all my contact numbers into
it, and I could give out the number to the people I was meeting ahead
of time.

--Gene

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <nospam@camsul.com>
Subject: Re: Taking my Cell Phone to Switzerland?
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:02:00 GMT


In article <telecom23.254.9@telecom-digest.org>, johnl@iecc.com says:

> I'm going to a conference in Geneva in July, and it'd be nice to have a
> phone.  What's the best way to do it?

> I have a Cingular tri-band phone, with one of the band being GSM.
> Cingular says they have roaming agreements with most of the GSM carriers
> in Europe, so if I put my GSM SIM card into a phone that works on Euro
> frequencies, it'll work there, albeit at rather high roaming rates.

> Cingular will sell me a Nokia 3100 "world" phone that works on GSM 1800,
> but 360 days out of the year I'm in North America where my current phone
> is just what I want and fits the car kit in my truck.

> Can I easily rent a phone when I get there, either an empty one into which
> I plug my SIM card, or one with its own card and a number I can use?  Or
> should I rent one here before I go?  Or something else?

In preparation for a vacation in Italy, just bought a world phone on
eBay, and an Italian SIM card from www.cellularabroad.com.  The latter
will also sell or rent world GSM phones.  They have SIM cards from
many different countries.  You would be best off with a SIM card from
the country that you will be in, because local calls will be cheap and
international calls may be less expensive than if using another
country's SIM card, since you would not be roaming.  This solution
will be much less expensive than using your Cingular SIM card, which
would probably cost you a few bucks a minute to use, even for local
calls.  And an in-country SIM card will also give you a local cellular
number in the country, which you can give out to other conference
attendees seeking to reach you in Geneva, give it to restaurants as
the callback for reservations, etc.

I was surprised at how inexpensive world phones are on eBay; lots of
Sony Ericsson units being unloaded.  Search for "unlocked GSM
tri-band".


Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD, USA
Delete nospam from my address and it won't work.

------------------------------

From: Frank@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Western Union Public Telegraph Offices
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:21:25 -0700
Organization: Cox Communications


TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

> Here is another historical look at Western Union, a company which was
> known throughout the USA during the first half of the 20th Century.

> During the period 1900 through about 1969, when Western Union was at its
> height, a very common feature in every town in America was the public
> telegraph office.

I don't recall much use of telegrams after nationwide direct distance
dialing (DDD) was pretty much in place, which was the late 1950s.  I
suspect by 1965 WU was gasping for breath.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: An item in Business Week Magazine for
August 27, 1960 entitled "Electronics Puts Young Blood in Old Company" 
is quoted in part here: 

> 	"Electronics Puts Young Blood in Old Company"

> "When Walter P. Marshall (cover) stepped into the president's job at
> Western Union in December, 1948, it looked as if his tenure might be
> short and unhappy.  Western Union, once the backbone of fast and
> dependable long-distance communications in the United States, was,
> quite plainly, a deathly sick old company.  It was saddled with high
> labor costs, old equipment, crushing debt, and local operations that
> often cost more to run than they returned in gross revenue.

> "Some Western Union executives were waiting for a declaration of
> bankruptcy; many doubted that the company would survive to celebrate
> its 100th anniversary in 1951.

> "-Rejuvenation- But in the ensuing 10 years, Western Union not only
> has pulled through, but it has thoroughly rejuvenated itself.  Instead
> of a winded oldster that could only look back at the days when its
> competition was the Pony Express, it now resembles an electronics
> adolescent with a bright and profitable future.  The company's new
> strength already is evident: Last year its revenues and earnings set
> an all-time high.

> "Western Union can be expected to keep on growing.  In the next five
> years, management hopes to spend $350-million on expansion.  Next
> year, the company plans to spend $105-million for plant and equipment
> on top of $45-million this year.  Completion of a transcontinental
> microwave network will increase the system's circuit capacity 10
> times, and will add enormously to the range of services it can offer.
> It will be able to provide increased telegraphic service, leased voice
> channels, facsimile, closed-circuit television, and perhaps most
> important of all, high-speed data processing channels that can
> handle digital information at computer speeds.

This next weekend, the Memorial Day holiday, I am going to reprint
this entire article from Business Week magazine to show just how wrong
WUTCO executives were about the company in 1960. And you know, just as
in 1960 the business community was saying Western Union would rise
again, I strongly suspect one of these days we are going to read about
AT&T filing bankruptcy.  Sounds unreal, doesn't it?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Frank@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Test-Driving a Cellular GPS Service
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:23:45 -0700
Organization: Cox Communications


Monty Solomon wrote:

> By WALTER S. MOSSBERG

> Navigation systems based on the government's Global Positioning System
> satellites have become increasingly popular. But they require
> specialized gear -- either expensive modules permanently installed in
> a car, or dedicated devices you must remember to carry. But what if
> you could get GPS navigation in a gadget that's with you all day
> anyway -- your cellphone? Now, you can.

General Motors has had that disaster they call OnStar for several years
now.  It is worthless as a navigation device and very poor as a locator
service.

The only merging of GPS and wireless that makes any sense is as a locator
rather than a navigator.

------------------------------

From: dahauss@unlimitedsounds.com (Dave Hauss)
Subject: Re: Question About Verizon Home Voicemail
Date: 24 May 2004 05:25:55 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Yes I have it doing that now but its a pain to get a call every time
there there is voicemail. I wish Verizon would add the feature like
my BROADVOICE voicemail has where it will send an email with info such
as caller ID and other info and I had it going to my cell phones text
messaging.

Temporary FL@L&ER <w9vhe@nospam.sysmatrix.net> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.250.17@telecom-digest.org>:

> Unless I am mistaken, on 19 May 2004 11:41:56 -0700,
> dahauss@unlimitedsounds.com (Dave Hauss) wrote:

>> I have Verizon home voicemail and am trying to find out if there is
>> any possible way I can have it sent a text message to my cell phone
>> when a voicemail comes in.  Right now, the only thing verizon told me
>> it can do is ring a number when a voicemail comes in. I don't want it
>> to do that. Any ideas?

> If you have the enhanced home voice mail, you can have it dial your
> cellphone -- don't think there is any way for it to do a speech-to-text
> conversion. All it will do is call whatever number you program it to,
> then it will *replay* the message over your cell.  That's what you
> have, not what you want, right?

> Use the usual techniques if you wish to reply via email.

> Molon Labe!

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From: charlie@cdsdetroit.com (charlie3)
Subject: Re: 802.16(Wi-Max)
Date: 23 May 2004 13:50:58 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I have some of the same questions you have.  I've been searching for
answers online same as you have.  Besides the ones you raise, what
about line of site restrictions.  That is the major one that has
limited widespread use of land based wireless broadband in urban
areas.  As you mention there is also supposed to be some unlicensed
frequencies available as there is with WIFI.  This should mean sooner
or later there will be some consumer class equipment.  Will this
equipment perform better than WIFI?

What's most interesting is I can't find the answers to these questions
either. The test results blackout is so complete it is as though there
has been no testing.

Maybe WIMAX is bombing technically, not working as expected.  Maybe
the big players are dragging their feet because they can't find a way
to control the technology as they might like.  May be it is both.

The reality is there is no WIMAX and my bet is there won't be for the
foreseeable future, years to come, not because it can't be done but
because the major companies don't want it to be done, yet.

It might have been better to have the standards set by a noncommercial
group who want the best system rather than the most profits.  These
are strange words for a person like me who is a self avowed
moneygrubbing bloodsucking capitalist pig with no objections to people
making money.  In this case however the government controls these
frequencies and has a responsibility to see if they are used for the
public benefit.

If you find quality information about WIMAX performance in the real
world please pass it along, I'm interested too.

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From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Jeff Pulver Statement on New York Public Services Commission
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:44:51 -0700
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


<Frank@nospam.biz> wrote in message
news:telecom23.252.7@telecom-digest.org:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The public servants do not like it when
>> some kind of dam appears which plugs up their constant flow of money
>> for their various petty projects. Did anyone ever notice how the more
>> 'peoples-republic-like' our major cities and more populous states
>> become, the more oppressive they also become on things like taxes and
>> government regulation in general? California is one good example, New
>> York and Chicago are two others.

> California is a geographically very large state.  Most of the
> population is contained in well less than 50% of the physical area.
> Some of the relatively empty areas are desert, but there are extensive
> mountain and forest areas that are very rural.  Of course, these folks
> views are drowned out by the socialists that run the place.

Years ago, just after a California election, my uncle, who lived in
the town of Susanville in the north-east of that state, told me he was
worried that California had no state senators from the northern part
of the state.  He said he was worried that with all the representation
from the southern part they'd probably all vote to pave Northern
California for use as a parking lot for the southern part!

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  My favorite take-off on this theme is
an old comedy show now appearing on TV Land a few times each day
called 'Green Acres' which takes place in a mythical town called
'Hooterville'. One day the main character in the show, Oliver Wendall
Douglas, an attorney formerly in residence in New York City discovers
that Hooterville has no representation in Congress, just loads of 
public servants who tax and regulate things in the little town as
much as they can.  PAT]

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From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: 5.8GHz 2 Line Phones
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 03:53:48 GMT


Pete Romfh <spamblocked@yourISP.com> posted on that vast internet
thingie:

> I've looked around a lot and haven't seen any either. With the number of
> 802.11b sites in homes you'd think 5.8Ghz would be a logical option.

We have a lot of folks going with the TMC ET4000 4 line wired phone
system and then adding single line 5.8GHz Motorolas with it.  It has
great support for adding cordless phones to the system.  It has a
module that adds an analog port to the system so that a single line
cordless can access all 4 lines incoming and outgoing.

(That is what we are currently using at SELLCOM and I like it.)

Steve at SELLCOM

http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Beamer, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Mini-Splitter log splitter!
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:06:18 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Fight Against Spam, Part 3


The Fight Against Spam, Part 3

by Francois Joseph de Kermadec

Editor's note: In part one, F.J. focused on laying the foundation for 
an anti-spam strategy and he covered how to block most of your 
unwanted mail. Then in part two, he fine-tuned this strategy, plus he 
took a closer look at the technologies inside of Mail.app. Now in 
part three, the conclusion of this series, F.J. covers rules and 
additional tools and techniques you can use to avoid becoming buried 
in spam.

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/05/21/spam_pt3.html

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From: "Bob Hoffman" <Bob.Hoffmanp0.f2.n8.z8@fmlynet.org>
Subject: Nortel Meridian Contractors
Date: Sun, 24 May 2004 11:34:42 
Organization: www.family-bbs.net [FamilyNet International]


I am looking for a company in the Dallas Area that will provide
contractors on an as needed basis to do moves adds and changes on an
as needed basis.

Thanks in advance.

FamilyNet <> Internet Gated Mail
http://www.fmlynet.org

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