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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:30:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 215

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Comcast Reports First Quarter 2004 Results (Monty Solomon)
    Yahoo! Messenger on Verizon Wireless' Mobile IM Service (Monty Solomon)
    US House Panel Advances Satellite Legislation (Monty Solomon)
    Nextel Tests Flexible Plans in Some Markets (Monty Solomon)
    U.S. Cellular Reports Strong First Quarter Results (Monty Solomon)
    Re: VOIP Connectivity to Multi Line Key Phone Systems (Stanley Cline)
    Re: How VoIP Can Connect the Disabled (Justin Time)
    Re: Evading the National Do-Not-Call List (Frank@nospam.biz)
    Re: Evading the National Do-Not-Call List (Jim Haynes)
    WiFi Research in Europe: Will Europe Lead Way Compared to US (Bailey)
    Re: Honesty from Earthlink (Mail Ias)
    Re: Good News: Four Oakland Cited in First U.S. Spam Case (SELLCOM Tech)
    Mobile IP Networks (007)
    Re: IDT Uses Wi-Fi to Offer Cheaper Cell Service (Steven J Sobol)
    Re: TiVo Will Not Die (Method to Madness)
    "If I am Elected" (Dale Neiburg)
    Galaxy Internet Services VOIP (Fred Atkinson)
    Re: Packet8 (Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
    Used Norstar M7310 Sets Worth Anything? (Tom Betz)

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:03:14 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Comcast Reports First Quarter 2004 Results


Cable Revenue Increased 9.8% to $4.6 Billion;
     High-Speed Internet Service Revenue Increased 41.9% to $698 Million

          Cable Operating Cash Flow Increased 21.0% to $1.7 Billion

           Cable Operating Income More than Doubled to $702 Million

       Consolidated Operating Income More than Doubled to $659 Million

Generated Consolidated Free Cash Flow of Nearly $400 Million in the Quarter;
On Track to Achieve $2 Billion of Free Cash Flow for Full Year 2004

PHILADELPHIA, April 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Comcast Corporation
(Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) today reported results for the quarter ended
March 31, 2004.  Comcast will discuss first quarter results on a
conference call and webcast today at 8:30 AM Eastern Time.  A live
broadcast of the conference call will be available on the investor
relations website at www.cmcsa.com and www.cmcsk.com .

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41199029

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:06:13 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Yahoo! Messenger on Verizon Wireless' Mobile IM Service


Customers Now Have Their Choice of Top Three IM Applications

BEDMINSTER, N.J., April 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless, the
nation's leading wireless service provider, and Yahoo!, a leading
global Internet company, today announced that Yahoo!(R) Messenger is
now available on Verizon Wireless' Mobile IM service.  Starting today,
Verizon Wireless customers can use their wireless phones to access
their pre-existing IM accounts with Yahoo!  Messenger to send and
receive instant messages.  Using their Get It Now(R)- enabled
handsets, IMers can stay in touch with friends and family with the
nation's three most popular instant message applications, even when
they are away from their computers.

Verizon Wireless Mobile IM brings the familiar PC IM experience to
mobile phones.  Developed by Comverse, the full-color user interface
lets customers:

* View, refresh and manage Yahoo! Friends lists
     * Easily create messages using symbols and predictive text
     * Receive instant messages, even if the handset is closed
     * Remain logged in, without incurring airtime charges
     * Hold multiple IM conversations
     * Change availability status
     * Block unwanted messages
     * Get on-screen help

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41202823

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:12:06 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: US House Panel Advances Satellite Legislation


WASHINGTON, April 28 (Reuters) - A U.S. House of Representatives panel
on Wednesday approved a measure requiring EchoStar Communications
Corp. (NASDAQ:DISH) and DirecTV Group Inc.  to put local broadcast
channels they offer on a single satellite dish instead of two dishes
within a year.

EchoStar, the No. 2 provider, requires customers in 38 markets to have
two dishes, citing capacity constraints.

Local channels are split between the two dishes and broadcasters have
complained that less popular channels are shunted to the second dish
that some customers forgo.

DirecTV, which is controlled by News Corp. (AUS:NCP), is also expected
to use two dishes in some local markets when it rolls out service in
more cities later this year.

The bill would "help ensure that consumers where local-into-local is
available have ready access to all the local broadcast stations in
their market," said Rep. Fred Upton, chairman of the House Commerce
subcommittee on telecommunications which approved the measure by voice
vote.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41207229

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:14:30 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Nextel Tests Flexible Plans in Some Markets


NEW YORK, April 28 (Reuters) - Nextel Communications Inc.
(NASDAQ:NXTL) said on Wednesday it has begun testing a more flexible
way of charging for its mobile phone services with an aim to keep
existing customers and attract new subscribers.

Reston, Virginia-based Nextel is letting customers who talk for more
time than allowed in their monthly service plans, automatically
upgrade to a costlier plan with more minutes -- in a small number of
markets, Nextel spokeswoman Audrey Schaefer said.

This option means that talkative customers would pay a set amount
extra if they go over the agreed minutes and avoid the
unpredictability of expensive per-minute charges that kick in when
subscribers talk for longer than expected.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41208164

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:56:59 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: U.S. Cellular Reports Strong First Quarter Results


CHICAGO, April 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- United States Cellular
Corporation (Amex: USM) reported service revenues of $619.4 million
for the first quarter of 2004, up 10% from $564.6 million in the
comparable period a year ago. The company recorded operating income of
$28.3 million during the quarter, an increase of $32.6 million from
the first quarter of 2003, as restated. Operating expenses in 2003
included a $21.6 million loss, as restated, related to the
then-pending exchange of U.S. Cellular's Florida and Georgia
properties to AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. (NYSE:AWE) ("AT&T
Wireless"). Net income and basic earnings per share were $9.2 million
and $.11, respectively compared to a net loss and basic loss per share
of $27.8 million and $.32, respectively, in the comparable period one
year ago, as restated. In the first quarter of 2003, the company
recorded the cumulative effect of an accounting change, net of tax,
related to the implementation of Statement of Financial Accounting
Standards (SFAS) 143, "Accounting for Asset Retirement Obligations,"
which reduced net income by $14.3 million.

The company's operating results include, through February 17, 2004,
the operations of the southern Texas markets that were sold to AT&T
Wireless on February 18, 2004. The company's operating results include
the previously mentioned Florida and Georgia properties' results for
the entire first quarter of 2003, but exclude those properties'
results for 2004.

First Quarter Highlights

    -- Customers totaled 4,547,000, a 7% increase from 4,240,000
       customers one year earlier and includes the addition of 18,000
       customers in a market that was added to the company's
       consolidated operations as of January 1, 2004. Customers at
       March 31, 2004 do not include 76,000 customers divested in the
       sale of the southern Texas properties to AT&T Wireless.
       Excluding the impact of acquisitions and divestitures, the
       number of customers grew 12%.

    -- Net customer activations from distribution channels totaled
       196,000 during the quarter, compared to 137,000 activations for
       the same quarter of 2003.

    -- For the quarter, the company recorded postpay churn of 1.3%,
       which is favorable to industry averages and the company's
       lowest quarterly postpay churn rate since it began tracking the
       measure.

    -- Average monthly retail service revenue per customer increased
       7% year- over-year in the quarter to $40.26, compared to $37.68
       in the same period a year ago. This comparison reflects
       U.S. Cellular's decision to include in retail service revenue
       those amounts billed to customers to recover the company's
       payments into the universal service fund.  Previously, such
       billings were recorded in other revenues. This change is
       reflected in the company's revenues in both periods.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=41199900

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From: Stanley Cline <sc1-news@roamer1.org>
Subject: Re: VOIP Connectivity to Multi Line Key Telephone Systems
Organization: Myself, in Dunwoody/Sandy Springs/Atlanta, GA, USA :)
Reply-To: sc1-news@roamer1.org
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 03:14:18 GMT


On 27 Apr 2004 13:50:16 -0700, dave@ces-hawaii.com (agolfer) wrote:

> I have a multi-line key telephone system in my office.  It is not VOIP
> compatible.  Is there a way that I can use VOIP services from
> providers like Vonage for voice/fax?  From what I see on Vonage's

As long as the key system can handle loop start lines, it shouldn't be
a problem.


Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/

"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today.  There might
be a law against it by that time."  -/usr/games/fortune

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And I have even seen cases where multi-
line phones could handle ground start. Picture a typical six-button
five line phone. The button on the far left is *usually* a 'hold'
button, and spring loaded so it pops back up instantly upon being
pressed. Often times with a red plastic button instead of the usual
clear colored button. Now suppose you took the pair that usually
controlled the hold function and sent that pair to ground, looping
it through the button on the phone. Then when the person using the
phone pressed that button (of neccessity, only momentarily) then you
would send ground to the phone line, right?

Or take a two-line, turn button phone. (I think Bell called them
2500-sets?) Two lines, one on each side of the turn button; but the
button also has a *third* position, a momentary closure when it is
pressed down and released, like a doorbell. Take that pair, which is
normally blue/white and send it to ground, looped through the push-
button position on the turn button switch.    PAT

------------------------------

From: a_user2000@yahoo.com (Justin Time)
Subject: Re: How VoIP Can Connect the Disabled
Date: 29 Apr 2004 06:05:59 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


VOIP News <voip news> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.213.5@telecom-digest.org>:

> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2004/tc20040428_4395_tc116.htm

> Internet-based telephony holds great promise for allowing the blind
> and deaf to communicate much better and become more productive

> Don Barrett's phone is his best assistant at work. Barrett, who's
> blind, has a phone that uses spoken voice to let him know who the
> caller is or to read to him the messages people leave when he misses a
> call. He can even use voice commands to tell his phone to find a
> number in his electronic Rolodex.

Here is a perfect example of the challenged leading the challenged and
both falling into a ditch.  I will admit, I am not visually
challenged, well at least glasses correct my problems, and my phone
"reads to me the messages people leave when I miss a call."  Hello -
It's called VOICE mail.

Now, reading the name or number from the Caller-ID display, that does
require a little more equipment, but it can still be picked off a
traditional phone and processed through the computer.  The same with
the voice command dialer connected to "an electronic Rolodex."  This
isn't Buck Rogers and the 24 1/2 century stuff we're talking about
here.  This is pretty basic stuff that has been done for at least 10
to 15 years using a modem as a dialer or to pick off the CID.

> None of these tasks are possible with a traditional phone, but Barrett
> is ahead of the game. He's using a PC-based phone that runs on
> voice-over-Internet-protocol (VoIP) technology. With some extra
> software, he can also hear his e-mail and voice mail from the
> Internet. At his job as assistive-technology specialist at the
> U.S. Education Dept., Barrett says the VoIP gear has greatly improved
> his performance. "I can decide whether to take a call. For me, that's
> huge."

I think I installed my first text reader in the late '70's -- around 78
or 79.  We fed text messages from the serial port of a terminal
through a VOTRAX and had it speaking the words.  The output was not
great, monotone with no inflection and very tiring to listen to for
any period of time - but it was text to speech being done in a
commercial setting.  We needed it for a blind person that had come to
work for us, and being a computer company it was extremely easy for us
to put something together using off-the-shelf components.  I think it
took us less than 2 weeks to get a prototype running and a simple
"finished" product was done in 3 or 4 more.

> While VoIP is creating quite a stir in the telecommuncations field
> overall (see BW Online, 1/6/04, "Finally, 21st Century Phone
> Service"), it's an especially promising technology for people with
> disabilities. VoIP integrates the phone, voice mail,
> audioconferencing, e-mail, instant messaging, and Web applications
> like Microsoft Outlook on one secure, seamless network. Plus, workers
> can use their PC, laptop, or handheld as a VoIP phone from virtually
> anywhere, with the same phone number, which benefits telecommuters,
> including those whose mobility is impaired and must work from home.

For all the hype, and for the most part it is nothing but hype -- VoIP
isn't doing anything new.  The applications are not new, they are
repackaged traditional voice circuit applications that have been
around for years.  People are missing the point about VoIP.  VoIP does
not change the way we use a telephone, it doesn't add any applications
or earth shaking features that aren't currently present.  What it does
do, and exactly how well is open to debate, is provide a different
transport mechnaism.  Kind of like going from open pair cable to
twisted pair.  As they start to work out the bandwidth requirements,
quality of service and other major issues with VoIP and VoATM, then
maybe, just maybe we can consider it a change from copper to fiber --
but that's all it is, a change in the transport media.

Oh, by the way (or OBTW), how does VoIP help a deaf person?

Rodgers Platt

> Full story at:

> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2004/tc20040428_4395_tc116.htm


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A deaf person? Well, a deaf person with
a TTY machine could hook it up to the Vonage, couldn't he? Ah, but if
the aurally different person (to be politically correct) had Vonage
and a broadband connection, he would probably also have one of the
various instant messengers (Yahoo, AOL, MSN) would he not?  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Frank@nospam.biz
Subject: Re: Evading the National Do-Not-Call List
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:38:50 -0700
Organization: Cox Communications


Bob Hofkin wrote:

> [PAT, Please remove my email address from the message. I have more than
> enough spam as it is.]

> An outfit called the National Consumer Council (NCC) placed a
> prerecorded phone call to my home this morning. They were offering a
> credit repar service. Two little problems: I am on the FTC's
> do-no-call list, and there was no CLID information provided.

> The IRS lists NCC as a public charity, so apparently the organization
> is exempt from the do-not-call list restrictions. I gather that NCC's
> contributors are a couple of credit repair companies that benefit from
> referrals; nowhere on their web site (www.thencc.org) did I see any
> solicitation for contributions from the general public.

> The NCC phone rep was a little vague on the charitible services they
> provide. He told me is was "advice." Curious readers may want to
> contact the organization at 800-990-3990 to inquire further.

> Bob

> That's another fine message you've gotten us in.

The best defense is a good offense.  Although most Telco switch-based
features are toys, SBC's Privacy Manager is worth its weight in gold,
combined with Nortel's talking caller ID.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But SBC's chairman (or the flunky who
speaks in his name) insists that ten zeros or an obviously bogus
name is not an 'anonymous call'. 'Out of area' is not an anonymous
call. Only if a caller deliberatly prepends *67 at the start of the
dialing string is it an anonymous call, and why should a telemarketer
go to the trouble of dialing *67 if their telepone system was rigged
up to give false information to start with?  

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Subject: Re: Evading the National Do-Not-Call List
Reply-To: jhaynes@alumni.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas Alumni
From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:10:20 GMT


I too got a call from that NCC slime.  Right at the beginning it said
they were exempt from do-not-call as a charity.  I entered a complaint
anyway.  There was recently something in the paper or on the net about
these supposedly non-profit debt consolidation services, and how they
shift income from the nonprofit to their for-profit lending arm, and
often end up charging the consumer a higher interest rate than he was
paying already.  I hope the FTC investigates this outfit.

I could see, too, a need for finer tuning of the rules.  Personally
I'd ban all telephone soliciting; but if we have to allow charities
then make a distinction between those who call soliciting donations
and those who call to offer their "services".

Also wish the online complaint form had a place for a comment, so I
could comment that this one smells like a scam to me.  


jhhaynes at earthlink dot net


[TELEOM Digest Editor's Note: One thing the credit counselors do not
tell you is that while yes, they often times have the weight to get
your creditors to reduce your payments, 'voluntary bankruptcy' or
financial re-organization is only one step above straight bankruptcy
and it winds up looking like hell on your credit report, which does
say honestly, yes, the man pays his bills (not a total deadbeat), but
in his own good time. You don't come out of the experience totally
free and clear.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: baileyw@uga.edu (Bailey)
Subject: WiFi Research in Europe: Will Europe Lead the Way Compared to US?
Date: 29 Apr 2004 10:29:54 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hello All,

I am leading a Wi Fi Zone and Cloud research project for Dr Scott
Shamp at the University of Georgia at Athens in the US.  You may have
heard of UGA; we have a 24 block free Wi Fi Cloud over downtown and
the first location based services in that Cloud in the US.
http://www.nmi.uga.edu provides an overview of the academic program.

Here are some things I'm trying to understand in Europe.  I would very
much appreciate your input:

* How much delay, if any, has typically occurred in approvals by
European governments of Wi Fi implementation (indoors and outdoors)
compared to the US?

* More importantly, are Wi Fi providers in Europe looking at providing
content such as city tour guides, games, etc as the European cellular
network providers do?  Are others in Europe?  Europe leads the US
substantially on applications and content for mobile phones.  Will
Europe do the same within Wi Fi?  Will Japan?

Thank you for any insight.

Bailey

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From: mailias@yahoo.com (Mail Ias)
Subject: Re: Honesty from Earthlink
Organization: Insight Broadband
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:57:21 GMT


In article <telecom23.203.6@telecom-digest.org>, Barry Margolin
<barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <telecom23.201.11@telecom-digest.org>, Edson C. Hendricks
> <mit@edh.net> wrote:

>> Ed.H: All right, I can see you have no more answers. Thank you very
>> much for your attention, although I must tell in closing that your
>> explanation doesn't satisfy me, and I doubt it would satisfy
>> practically any objective reader.

> Let's say you're right, and they're deliberately not fixing the
> opt-out mechanism.  Did you really expect a customer support rep to
> admit that they're blatantly lying to customers?  More likely, they're
> keeping it a secret from the CSRs as well.

> Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA
> *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

Let's consider that the original poster is wrong -- Earthlink really is
trying to fix the problem, but can't so far.  Do you really expect any
CSR to be able to explain it to your satisfaction?  What do you want?
"we use SQL Server 2000 build 5915, and there's a bug with index
headers on tables larger than 6,000,007 bytes, only when the first
field of the table starts with the letter J".

------------------------------

From: SELLCOM Tech support <support@sellcom.com>
Subject: Re: Good News: Four Oakland Cited in First U.S. Spam Case
Organization: www.sellcom.com
Reply-To: support@sellcom.com
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:43:43 GMT


Joe Wineburgh <Joe_Wineburgh@cable.comcast.com> posted on that vast
internet thingie:

> Other unwitting companies and agencies whose computers were used
> include <courtesy snip of company names>

All of the aforementioned and deliberately not quoted were *all*
running open relays or unsecured email servers in 2004???????

Let's just kinda hope that the prison population will be computer
literate enough to give the spammers the same courtesy formerly
reserved for child molesters and such like.

Steve at SELLCOM


http://www.sellcom.com
Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, AT&T, Panasonic, Motorola
Vtech 5.8Ghz; TMC ET4000 4line Epic phone, OnHoldPlus, Beamer, Watchguard!
Brick wall "non MOV" surge protection. Mini-Splitter log splitter!
If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They may have very well had open relays
on their sites. Many large corporations hold Usenet in such disdain
anyway. Discourage reading it, certainly never take heed to anything 
talked about on the net, etc. Just go on doing their own thing. I
cannot begin to tell you how many *huge* corporations (some of which 
were named) have been eaten alive on phone charges (some of which was
fraud, all of which was careless administration of their phone systems.
I am not trying to do 'sour grapes' here, but so many of them just
will not listen or read the virtually free advice they can get in a
place like this newsgroup, which is hardly unique on the net. PAT]

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From: 007@sthilliers.com.au (007)
Subject: Mobile IP Networks
Date: 29 Apr 2004 01:55:08 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I need to investigate some solutions for a true mobile wireless
networks and I'm looking for anyone's input.

The situation is as follows: I need to design a network that will
supporting IP traffic on a public bus transport system. Wireless
terminals on each bus will communicate through a router onboard each
bus (ie each bus is a mobile wireless LAN). At the bus depot there is
a gateway for internet and telephony. The range of each LAN on each
bus is limited to no more than 3km and there are no more than 10
busses within the network.

What are some considerations for the planning, design and architecture
of such a network?

Thanks.

------------------------------

From: Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: IDT Uses Wi-Fi to Offer Cheaper Cell Service
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:38:31 -0500


VOIP News <voip news> wrote:

> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2004-04-21-idt-wifi_x.htm

> By Paul Davidson, USA TODAY

> Believe it or not, 43% of U.S. consumers still don't have a cell phone,
> many for budget reasons.

> Now, long-distance company IDT is aiming at low- to moderate-income
> holdouts with a new breed of inexpensive service that offers mobile
> service but only in certain areas.

It'll mostly affect the companies like Leap Wireless/Cricket, Metro
PCS and Northcoast PCS that offer flat-rate monthly local cell calls
for $30-40 per month.

Northcoast PCS is in the Northeast. They initially launched in
Cleveland and within a month of the launch, I picked up one of the
first phones they'd ever sold. They're doing horribly, though. I don't
know if they went under, as was rumored, but they sold a ton of
spectrum to Verizon Wireless.

MetroPCS and Cricket aren't in New York at all, and I'm not sure NCPCS is 
either. They were supposed to have been all over the Northeast -- they're
owned by Cablevision, which is headquartered on Long Island -- but I don't
see coverage anywhere other than Cleveland listed on northcoastpcs.com and,
in fact, they have scaled down coverage a bit.


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Windows 98/2000/2003

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From: Method to Madness <noemail@email.com>
Subject: Re: TiVo Will Not Die
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:52:56 -0400


Tivo will eventually just disappear. Cable companies will upgrade and
tweak their DVR services and that's pretty much it. I'm not sure or
would know why some one would actually have cable TV service and get
Tivo instead of just upgrading their cable box via a small price with
the cable company.

And when DVD recorder prices eventually drop more and more ...

Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote in message
news:telecom23.212.4@telecom-digest.org...

> Despite gloomy news reports, the Digital Video Recorder service will
> eventually find its niche in the marketplace.

> By Phillip Swann

> Washington, DC (April 27) -- It's been a rough week for TiVo, the
> Digital Video Recorder service.

> The Wall Street Journal and The Associated Press just published
> lengthy features on how TiVo could be wiped out by DVR services
> offered by cable TV operators. The New York Times last week wrote a
> similar, albeit smaller, version of this story. And, TiVo's stock
> continues to be suffocated by a combination of bad news and scary
> scenarios.

> http://www.tvpredictions.com/tivo042704.html

------------------------------

Subject: "If I am Elected"
From: Dale Neiburg <dneiburg@umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:06:25 -0400


In Telecom Digest, number 209, the editor opined,

"Of course Bush has occassionally (?) been sometimes less than
forthright in his statements and promises ..."

But he isn't obligated to keep his campaign promises.  Remember, they
all began, "If I am elected ..."

--Dale Neiburg

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "If I am elected" ...   But Dale, he
*was* elected. And when listening to my radio and 'All Things Considered' 
and other propoganda produced by your employer (locally, KRPS 89.9 FM
for southeast Kansas) I get the distinct impression that your employer
looks rather askance at his antics sometimes also. PAT]

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:13:16 PDT
From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com>
Subject: Galaxy Internet Services VOIP
Reply-To: fatkinson@mishmash.com


I've been using a VOIP residential service offering by Galaxy
Internet.  They are only twenty dollars per month for unlimited long
distance within the 48 continental United States and some fair decent
overseas rates (includes five cents per minute to Australia).

They promised voice mail is coming *soon* and I had understood that
voicemail was already a part of the service.  I keep asking them for a
commitment as to when the voicemail service is going to be available.
So far, I've gotten no answer.  I've even spoken to management and
they won't commit.

Also, they advertise music on hold.  You upload a non-compressed .wav
file and supposedly it works.  It didn't.  When I spoke to someone in
customer service, he insisted that they are not yet offering that
service.  But, the music on hold is a very minor issue.

So, I'm seriously considering changing providers as I have to have
voice mail before I can begin to give out my number.

Does anyone know anything about when Galaxy Internet (www.gis.net)
will be ready with their voicemail service?

Fred 

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From: Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <73115.1041@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Packet8
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:37:52 -0600
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Method to Madness <noemail@email.com> wrote:

> Do these type Internet phone services work with home alarm systems? It
> would really suck if I had to keep Verizon or "regular" phone service
> all because of my alarm system ... UGH!

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My understanding is any device which
> can take a phone off hook and transmit something over it will work
> with VOIP. 


You need to be very careful here and run some actual tests. Packet8
most definitely does not pass fax or modem calls. Their web site says
they are working on it, but not today. I understand Vonage may handle
fax calls, not sure about modem calls.

Alarm systems are a whole ' nuther problem. If your alarm system uses
a dry pair in the same bundle as your voice line, you may be OK. If
your alarm system interrupts the voice line and places a call, you
need to be careful where you splice in the VOIP box. Even then, it
probably won't work as most dialup alarms are making a modem like
connection.

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From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Used Norstar M7310 Sets Worth Anything?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:47:51 -0000
Organization: Anything


We've just moved a commercial bakery into a new building with a new
phone system, and while the (working, remarkably) DR-5 and voicemail
systems and cabinets are so cocoa-encrusted as to be pretty much
worthless, I have 9 or 10 M7310 sets in black (from the offices) that
work.  Am I right to estimate that they are probably worth about $50
each on the used market?


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