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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:06:00 EDT    Volume 23 : Issue 201

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Net2Phone Unveils Wi-Fi VoIP Strategy; Net2Phone To Enable (VOIP News)
    Dean Anderson of AV8 Comments on Privacy Issues and VoIP Tap (VOIP News)
    Making the Call on VoIP - Internet Phone Services Vary (VOIP News)
    New VoIP Provider Has Largest Residential "Unlimited" Local (VOIP News)
    FCCs Decision Against AT&Ts VoIP Garners 5-0 Vote, Raises (VOIP News)
    Feds Ding AT&T Over Internet Calls (VOIP News)
    Re: Phone Line Connected to Satellite System Problems (Gary Breuckman)
    Re: Phone Line Connected to Satellite System Problems (Paul A Lee)
    Can't Ping IP Printer? (DaveC)
    Norvergence (Tim Trump)
    Honesty From Earthlink (Edson C. Hendricks)
    Factory Flaws Yield Headaches For Chip Makers (Monty Solomon)
    SBC Communications' Profit Drops 61 Percent (Monty Solomon)
    "Jew Watch", Google, and Search Engine Optimization (Monty Solomon)

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From: VOIP News <Voip news>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:21:34 -0400
Subject: Net2Phone Unveils Wi-Fi VoIP Strategy; Net2Phone To Enable
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040422005369&newsLang=en

Net2Phone Unveils Wi-Fi VoIP Strategy; Net2Phone To Enable Service
Providers With Wi-Fi Telephony, Extending Mobility And Flexibility of
VoIP

     A related IDT Corporation press release is available, please
refer to Business Wire story #5255, April 22, 2004.

NEWARK, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 22, 2004--

  IDT to deploy Wi-Fi phone service utilizing Net2Phone's platform    

Net2Phone (NASDAQ: NTOP) today announced plans to deliver a suite of
wireless VoIP solutions to service providers globally, enabling them
to empower residential and corporate users worldwide with mobile VoIP
applications. Building on its recently announced VoiceLine broadband
telephony offering, Net2Phone's wireless VoIP solutions will offer
service providers SIP-based hosted wireless telephony services that
can be sold to their customers as an enhancement to their existing
product set.

Wireless VoIP extends the existing reach of voice and data services by
removing the necessity for copper or fiber last-mile access to the
Internet. Net2Phone routes all calls over wireless IP networks to its
SIP-based platform, which performs call management, provides Class 5
features, billing, provisioning and enhanced services and distributes
the infrastructure required for interconnecting onto and off of the
PSTN network. Net2Phone offers service providers an affordable mobile
telephony solution together with a complete set of features and
functionality, including inbound and outbound calling with phone
number selection, call waiting, caller ID and voicemail.

The company also announced that its first customer, IDT Corporation
(NYSE: IDT), a leading multinational carrier and technology company,
plans to deploy commercial Wi-Fi phone service in a series of
locations throughout the United States. The Ironbound area of Newark,
New Jersey will be the first area covered and will enable users in
residential and affordable housing to bypass local phone companies and
make domestic and international phone calls via a wireless connection
to the Internet.

Demand for wireless IP local area networks or Wi-Fi (802.11) continues
to grow, with Pyramid Research projecting 700 million Wi-Fi users
globally by 2008. Wi-Max, an extended wireless broadband network
reaching as far as 25 miles, is becoming a viable alternative for
customers to receive high-speed Internet access in rural areas and in
areas where wired broadband is not an option because of low high-speed
data availability. By extending its retail VoIP offerings to the
wireless environment, Net2Phone can ride the wave of wireless
broadband deployments by offering a bundle of telephony in conjunction
with a high-speed wireless data offer.

"Net2Phone's wireless solutions remove the tether associated with
VoIP, delivering the flexibility of a cellular phone anywhere in the
world there is a Wi-Fi hotspot, without the need to be tied to a cell
phone carrier, " said Stephen Greenberg, CEO of Net2Phone. "Net2Phone
is well positioned to ride the burgeoning Wi-Fi network explosion to
offer consumers and businesses affordable mobile telephony solutions."

Wireless VoIP Partnership Opportunities 

As Net2Phone is an enabler for service providers, globally, Net2Phone
can also seamlessly integrate its front and back office systems,
including its billing platform, into its partners' infrastructures,
thereby facilitating a unified bill for high-speed data,
telecommunications and other services. Target partners include:

-- Wireless ISPs (WISPs): With more than 30 million US homes that
   cannot access cable or DSL service, Net2Phone can offer WISPs
   telephony services as a bundle to their high-speed wireless
   product, both within local wireless environments, such as cafes and
   airports, as well as Wi-Max deployments throughout entire cities.

-- Rural Opportunities: Residents in rural areas may benefit from
   broadband Internet access as well as competitive telephony
   service. With more cities and municipalities offering their
   populace extensive long-range wireless networks in their locales,
   Net2Phone can offer full featured inbound and outbound calling
   capabilities within those networks.

-- Wireline High-Speed Data Providers: Net2Phone can empower
   high-speed data providers, such as cable and DSL operators, with
   mobile telephony solutions, thereby extending the reach and
   flexibility of their broadband telephony service.

-- Wireless Home Networks: Within a home networking environment, users
   can roam throughout the house with a Wi-Fi phone. End users can
   then use the Net2Phone service anytime they are within a hotspot,
   either at home or on the road.

-- Public Hotspots: Customers can take their Wireless VoiceLine
   account and phone number and roam onto any open hotspot to place
   and receive calls. This strategy is very similar to the RBOC's
   strategy of offering their DSL customers free data roaming on their
   hotspots to further extend their value proposition to their
   customers.

-- OEMs 

-- Cell Phone Manufacturers: Net2Phone is also in discussions with
   cell phone manufacturers that are creating dual mode cell phones
   for both cell phone and VoIP usages.

-- PDA Manufacturers: PDA manufacturers can also add software to their
   devices that can enable a wireless PDA with phone functionality
   using Net2Phone.

Layer incremental SIP telephony services

Net2Phone can also enable its partners to offer to their subscribers,
residential telephony services, prefix dialing services and calling
cards. By marketing multiple telephony services to their subscribers
using one unified account and platform, partners can maximize their
telephony revenue per subscriber.

About Net2Phone 

Net2Phone provides PacketCable, SIP and wireless VoIP solutions around
in the world. As leaders in enabling telecom service providers and
cable operators with turn-key hosted VoIP telephony services,
Net2Phone has routed billions of retail VoIP minutes globally,
servicing more than 100,000 users in the US as well as hundreds of
thousands of more overseas. Net2Phone's hosted SIP platform provides
partners with residential broadband telephony, calling cards, prefix
dialing and enterprise services in over 100 countries. Net2Phone's
PacketCable platform provides cable operators with the ability to
deliver a primary line replacement service with guaranteed QoS and
features such as E911. Traded on the NASDAQ under the symbol NTOP,
Net2Phone's strategic partners and investors include Liberty Media
Corporation (NYSE: L; LMC.B) and IDT Corporation (NYSE: IDT;
IDT.C). For more information about Net2Phone's products and services,
please visit www.net2phone.com.

   
Net2Phone Corporate Communications
Dawn Orlinsky, 973-438-3508
dorlinsky@net2phone.com 
 
How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/
 
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From: VOIP News <Voip News>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:27:57 -0400
Subject: Dean Anderson of AV8 Comments on Privacy Issues and VoIP taps
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.cryptonomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=749

Dean Anderson of AV8 Comments on Privacy Issues and VoIP taps
Posted on Thursday, April 22 @ 08:00:00 EDT by mhamrick 
 
In a recent story we reported on comments by Eliot Spitzer, Attorney
General of the State of New York. In a statement released by his
office, Mr. Spitzer criticizes telcos for being slow to respond to law
enforcement requests to upgrade VoIP technology to give law
enforcement the ability to tap "internet phone calls." (See Eliot
Spitzer Calls for VoIP Taps
<http://www.cryptonomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=744>.)

Now Dean Anderson has chimed into Declan McCullagh's PolitechBot
mailing list and has said ...

[Begin quote] Further, the concept of an _FBI_controlled_ backdoor is
completely novel in the telecom industry. With telephone tapping, the
FBI is supposed to have paperwork. Then the telephone company will
route the audio of that phone to a "wiretap port", a line to the FBI
office in response to an FBI request, for which records are kept. The
FBI is never, ever given access to the CO cableplant, or the CO
facilities. FBI tapping equipment is not allowed in a Telephone
Office. There is someone in the Telephone company that _can_ blow the
whistle either publicly or to the FBI itself in the event of
abuse. (eg, Agent soandso asked for a Tap on his ex-wife) [End quote]

The complete quote is available at the PolitechBot archive and is
worth a click over. 
(see [Politech] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap 
push [priv] 
<http://politechbot.com/pipermail/politech/2004-April/000622.html>.)

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:14:29 -0400
Subject: Making the Call on VoIP - Internet Phone Services Vary
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/ptech/generalstories2/042204ccdrptechgeeklife.98a4e.html

By VIKAS BAJAJ / The Dallas Morning News

To certified geeks like me, Voice over Internet Protocol phone calls
have immediate resonance.

If set up properly, the technology can be extremely powerful. It lets
you manage calls to you by ringing them to several phone numbers at
once or in a daisy chain until you answer.

You can send calls directly to voice-mail, which can then be e-mailed
to you. VoIP also lets you take your home phone number and features
with you on the road. And best of all, long-distance calls within the
nation are toll-free.

The technology, which uses broadband Internet connections to transmit
calls, can also dramatically reduce costs by eliminating many
surcharges and providing lower international rates.

Last year, I tested and reported on one of the first mass-market VoIP
services by Vonage Holding Corp. I gave it good marks, although I was
annoyed by the quality of some international calls.

For the last few weeks, I have tested AT&T Corp.'s CallVantage
service. I also started using 8x8 Inc.'s Packet8 service this week.

Full story at:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/ptech/generalstories2/042204ccdrptechgeeklife.98a4e.html

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 04:37:59 -0400
Subject: New VoIP Provider Has Largest Residential "Unlimited" Local
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


A thread on BroadbandReports.com led to information on a new VoIP
service that, for $24.95 per line per month, offers (to residential
customers) unlimited local and toll calls in the USA (All 50 states),
Canada and featured international destinations.

Featured International Destinations*

Argentina - Buenos Aires
Australia
Canada
Chile
Denmark
France
Germany
Hong Kong
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Korea South
Mexico - Mexico City
Mexico - Monterey
Netherlands
Norway
Russia - Moscow
Russia - St. Petersburg
Singapore 
Spain
Sweden
Taiwan
United Kingdom
Vatican City State

* Rates to certain cellular destinations may carry additional costs

The company's web site is at: http://rnkvoipservice.com/

The discussion thread on BroadbandReports.com may be found here:
http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,9993971~mode=flat (Note
that in this thread, user dan33ljb seems to be the representative for
the company in question).

Also, note that the company's web site apparently just went live a few
hours ago and several people are commenting that it is difficult to
use.  And, because the company is so new, there have been no actual
reviews by users of the service posted yet.

If this turns out to be na legitimate offer (and so far I have no
reason to think it isn't), it raises the bar for the size of the
"unlimited" calling area.  However, there are a few drawbacks to this
service at present.  For one thing they only offer numbers for
incoming calls in a handful of states in the northeast, and for
another, if you want the "enhanced feature package" (which includes
several features that are usually offered at no additional charge by
other VoIP providers), there is a $4.95 additional monthly charge.
Those who rarely or never make calls outside the U.S.A. might be
better off with a company that offers a smaller calling area, but more
features at no additional charge.

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From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:17:03 -0400
Subject: FCCs Decision Against AT&Ts VoIP Garners 5-0 Vote, Raise Question
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1082572258.htm

The FCC on Wednesday (April 21) was preparing to release its
long-awaited decision on AT&T's petition seeking a declaratory
ruling on its phone-to-phone Voice over Inter Protocol (VoIP) service,
sources tell TelecomWeb's sister publication, Telecom Policy
Report. As predicted by TPR, the Commission has denied AT&T's
request, ruling that the carrier's VoIP offering is, in fact,
subject to interstate access charges. And although the five
commissioners voted to deny AT&T's petition, at least two of them
 -- Michael Copps and Kevin Martin -- are said to have serious
reservations about the denial.

Sources tell TPR that Copps and Martin were under tremendous pressure
to vote with the majority, and that the order denying AT&T's
petition was crafted in such a way as to make opposition to it appear
contrary to the principles of universal service.

Full story at:
http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1082572258.htm

------------------------------

From: VOIP News <voip news>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:10:36 -0400
Subject: Feds Ding AT&T Over Internet Calls
Reply-To: VoIPnews@yahoogroups.com


http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5197204.html

By Ben Charny 
CNET News.com
 
Federal regulators ruled on Wednesday that AT&T must pay traditional
local access charges to complete Internet phone calls, putting the
long-distance carrier on the hook for billions of dollars in deferred
fees.

Telecommunications companies closely watched the Federal
Communications Commission decision for its potential impact on voice
over Internet Protocol services. VoIP technology uses high-speed Web
connections to carry phone calls, so it promises to bypass the
traditional phone system, thus saving carriers and customers
substantial fees.

AT&T had argued that it was not required to pay the access fees to
local landline companies for completing long-distance calls, when
those calls travel partly over the Internet.

But the FCC disagreed. In a limited decision anticipated months ago,
it chose to maintain much of the status quo between long-distance and
local carriers for now. The FCC said its ruling affects only calls
that begin and end on the public switched telephone network and use
Internet Protocol networks in between. The ruling is not expected to
impact commercial VoIP providers.
 
Full story at:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5197204.html

------------------------------

From: Gary Breuckman <puma@catbox.com>
Subject: Re: Phone Line Connected to Satellite System Problems
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:57:58 -0500
Organization: Puma's Lair - catbox.com


In article <telecom23.194.11@telecom-digest.org>, J Kelly
<jkelly@newsguy.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:43:03 -0400, Keith Knipschild <keith@knip.com>
> wrote:

>> I recently got a Satellite System installed from DISH Network, The
>> receiver needs to be connected to a phone line otherwise Dish charges
>> $5 a month.

>> But I seem to be having a problem, The DISH receiver does not recognize
>> my phone line, (Which is POTS) it fails on a phone line test.

>> I then remembered that since I have VOICE DIALING, the dial tone is
>> very brief ... Maybe that is causing the failure.

>> So I did a test, from my phone I dialed *98 (This extends the Dial
>> Tone) and did a phone line test on my DISH receiver and it Worked just
>> fine. (I think the Extended Dial Tone only lasts for 1 call).

>> Does anyone know how to cure this problem? Is it DISH's receiver or
>> VERIZON'S problem with Voice Dialing ?

>> BTW: Verizon does not Support Voice Dialing anymore, they don't offer
>> it anymore, but existing customers can continue to use it.

>> Keith

> Does the Dish have a place to tell it to dial *98 to access the line,
> therefore extending the dialtone?  I recall seeing a place to set a code
> to dial to access an outside line, but maybe it was only the option to
> dial 9.  I'm not near one of my Dish boxes at the moment to check.

Let's see -- IF I dial *98, a side effect is I get a longer dialtone, so I
can dial.

If I don't have a longer dialtone in the first place, I can't dial *98.

How does this work again?

-- Gary Breuckman

------------------------------

From: Paul A Lee <palee@riteaid.com>
Subject: Re: Phone Line Connected to Satellite System Problems
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:00:43 -0400
Organization: Rite Aid Corporation


In TELECOM Digest V23 #191, Keith Knipschild <keith@knip.com> wrote
(in part):

> I recently got a Satellite System installed from DISH Network
> ... But I seem to be having a problem The DISH receiver does not
> recognize my phone line it fails on a phone line test.

> I then remembered that since I have VOICE DIALING, the dial tone is
> very brief ... Maybe that is causing the failure.  So I did a test,
> from my phone I dialed *98 (This extends the Dial Tone) and did a
> phone line test on my DISH receiver and it Worked just fine. (I
> think the Extended Dial Tone only lasts for 1 call).

> Does anyone know how to cure this problem?

Have you tried programming your DISH receiver with a three-digit dial
prefix of '*98'? This is done in the
System Setup | Installation | Phone System menu on my 4900.

It might still flunk the diagnostic, but could work correctly when it
actually has to dial out to report PPV purchases. It depends on
whether the receiver listens for dial tone before dialing, or blind
dials the prefix. I don't know which it does, but it's worth a try.

Paul A Lee <palee@riteaid.com> Voice: +1 717 730-8355
Sr Telecom Engineer [Voice & Transmission] Fax: +1 717 975-3789
Rite Aid Corporation, Telecomm, 30 Hunter Lane, Camp Hill, PA 17011-2410

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From: DaveC <me@privacy.net>
Subject: Can't Ping IP Printer?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:59:58 -0700
Reply-To: me@privacy.net


I've set up three routers to provide security between two small
networks, yet be able to share resources.

The setup consists of a Speedstream DSL modem, a Netgear FVS318
immediately downstream; and two RP614v2 routers plugged into the
'318. All computers (6 total) are plugged into the 614's.

I configured the routers so that they each have unique IP addresses,
and serve (DHCP) unique ranges of IP addresses.

All computers can share the DSL service without problems. Everything
seemed fine.

I then added an HP LaserJet 2300 printer with built-in Ethernet card
(HP option). I plugged the printer into the '318. I then set up a
(memory is a bit fuzzy, here) port for access to the printer's IP
address (I think).

When the printer is plugged into either of the 614's, the computers on
that network can print to the printer. When it is plugged into the
318, no one can see it or print to it. Pinging doesn't work either (no
packets returned; times out) when the printer is on the "other side"
of the 614.

I presume it is possible to access the printer across the router; what
am I overlooking?


Thanks,

DaveC
me@privacy.net
This is an invalid return address
Please reply in the news group

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From: Tim Trump <ttrump@dom-met.com>
Subject: Norvergence
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:04:14 -0400


Our company is also evaluating this company as a telecom provider
which I now understand is a reseller?

Somewhat disturbing but would like additional info if anyone has it.

Best regards,

Tim Trump
Project Manager
Dominion Metallurgical, Inc.
5304 Valleypark Drive
Roanoke, VA 24019
Ph:  540/362-8500
Fx:  540/362-8362
email:  ttrump@dom-met.com
MSN messenger: domettimt@hotmail.com
web site: www.dom-met.com

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:21:44 -0700
From: Edson C. Hendricks <mit@edh.net>
Subject: Honesty from Earthlink


This is 4/21/04, here's my transcript of almost the very same
exchange from Earthlink posted here from two months ago:

           ++++++++++

Welcome to Earthlink LiveChat.  Your chat session will begin shortly.

Not at home and you want to read your email? With Earthlink Web Mail
you can check your email from any computer with an Internet
connection!

Please wait for a site operator to respond. While you are waiting,
please feel free to begin typing your issue in the box below.  Try to
be as descriptive as possible.  Once an operator responds, click SEND
to transmit what you have typed.

Not at home and you want to read your email? With Earthlink Web Mail
you can check your email from any computer with an Internet
connection!

Please wait for a site operator to respond. While you are waiting,
please feel free to begin typing your issue in the box below.  Try to
be as descriptive as possible.  Once an operator responds, click SEND
to transmit what you have typed.

Not at home and you want to read your email?  With Earthlink Web Mail
you can check your email from any computer with an Internet
connection!

Angela K says: Thank you for contacting EarthLink LiveChat, how may I
help you today?

Ed.H: Hello Angela K.  Can you explain why Earthlink is sending me
spam, even though I've "opted out" from receiving such unwanted junk?

Angela K: Please let me know whether you are receiving
non-administrative email messages from EarthLink.

Ed.H: No, these are not administrative messages, they are advertising.
The one is for some stupid photo processing service, the other is even
identified in the subject line as "ADV", which has to do with DSL or
some similar thing I don't care to be receiving email about.

Angela K: Could I have your secret word/PIN, for verification purpose?

Ed.H: My browser tells me that this is not a secure link, so I don't
believe it would be appropriate to send such information.  Am I wrong
about that somehow?

Angela K: This is a secured chat and I am an Authorized employee of
EarthLink, so you can provide the information for verification with
out any hesitation.

Ed.H: OK, fine. My Earthink email address is ********@earthlink.net,
and my password is ********.  My domain name is edh.net, which is the
only email address I let anyone know about.

Angela K: Thank you for the verification.

Ed.H: yw

Angela K: Okay, now I will Opt Out your email address from receiving
these emails.

Ed.H: So, didn't I already opt it out?  Several of Earthlink's
telephone support people have assured me that I had done that
correctly?

Angela K: Now, I will do it from our servers.

Angela K: I can assure you that you will no longer receive these kind
of emails.

Ed.H: Is there any way I could do that "from your servers" without
having to get you to do it for me?

Angela K: You can do it form My Account.

Angela K: Sorry, You can do it from My Account.

Ed.H: But, I *already did that!* Months ago.  At least three Earthlink
support representatives on the telephone have confirmed that.  They
told me these spam email messages were not coming from Earthlink.  The
stories don't match.  What is going on here?

Angela K: To best assist you, you need to speak with a Customer
Service Representative.  Please standby while I transfer you.

Ed.H: OK

Please wait while I transfer the chat to the best suited site
operator.

Nelson D says: Thank you for contacting EarthLink LiveChat, how may I
help you today?

Nelson D: Hello, I see you've already been chatting.  Please give me a
moment so I can read the previous chat and pick up where you left off.

Ed.H: Sure

Nelson D: Can I have the secret pin on the account which appears to be
the last four digits of your Social Security Number, for verification?

Ed.H: That's ****

Nelson D: Thank you for providing the verification information.

Nelson D: I see that you have already opted out of all promotional
communications.

Nelson D: I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused to you in
this regard.  I see that you have already opted out of all promotional
communications from EarthLink.  However, we have noted that some of
the customer are still receiving them.  Our engineers are currently
working on this issue.  Once resolved, you will not receive any
promotional communications from us.

Ed.H: Could you please explain why my opting out originally did not
work, and assuming that your promise is correct, that it will *this
time*, why I should think it will work now?

Nelson D: I apologize for the inconvenience. Our engineers are working
on this issue.

Nelson D: Once the issue is resolved, you will not be receiving them.

Ed.H: Do you realize that this, as you say, "issue," has been going
for more than two months now?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nelson D: I am sorry for the inconvenience.  I assure you that it will
be resolved very soon and you will not be receiving any promotional
emails.

Ed.H: Can you explain why some sensible, rational person, would not
deduce that Earthlink is trying this way to spam its subscribers, even
when they "opt out"?

Nelson D: I sincerely apologize.  But due to some error, our server is
sending these emails to those customers also who have opted out of it.
Our engineers are working to correct this issue.

Ed.H: And, I deduce, that Earthlink is somehow incapable of figuring
out how to stop spamming its subscribers within a period of a couple
months, while it seems to be able to do pretty much everything else
reasonably promptly?

Nelson D: I am sorry for the confusion. These are not spam
emails. This issue has been reported and will be taken care of.

Nelson D: Are you with me?

Ed.H: OK, fine. Whether or not Earthlink would admit it, these
actually *are* spam email messages, because they are being sent by
Earthlink to individuals who have clearly communicated to Earthlink
that they do not want to see them.  I've been trying for weeks to get
this fixed.  I'm sorry, if Earthlink is genuinely unable to get these
"problems" fixed as promptly as it fixes every other problem, then any
normal person would deduce that they're trying *not* to "solve" them,
to keep the advertising running.  Why is it taking Earthlink so long
to fix it?

Nelson D: I apologize for the inconvenience.  I will forward this
issue once again to concerned department and assure you that this will
be fixed.

Ed.H: All right, I can see you have no more answers. Thank you very
much for your attention, although I must tell in closing that your
explanation doesn't satisfy me, and I doubt it would satisfy
practically any objective reader.

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your patience in this regard.  I assure you that this will not take
long.

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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:08:13 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Factory Flaws Yield Headaches For Chip Makers


By Daniel Sorid

SAN FRANCISCO, April 21 (Reuters) - For chip makers, problems on the
factory floor are increasingly turning into big headaches in the
executive suite.

Some of the world's biggest chip makers have lost both money and time 
straightening out the extraordinarily complex process of turning 
microchip designs and discs of silicon into working electronics.

The difficulties have only worsened as the industry adopts new design 
features smaller than the wavelength of light, while moving to larger 
silicon wafers that can produce more than twice as many chips as 
previous wafers.

While those new technologies greatly increase the potential for 
churning out stacks of more powerful chips at lower costs, they have 
also thrown up hurdles that even the largest chip makers have 
occasionally stumbled over.

The most recent slip-up comes from IBM's $3 billion fabrication 
plant, or fab, in East Fishkill, New York. International Business 
Machines Corp. (NYSE:IBM) executives have acknowledged that 
manufacturing problems at the plant contributed to a $150 million 
loss that the company's chip business had last quarter.


http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=41126745
 
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:10:53 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: SBC Communications' Profit Drops 61 Percent


SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- SBC Communications Inc.'s profit dropped 61
percent in the first quarter from results swelled by the effects of an
accounting change a year ago, but the telecommunications concern's
results still easily surpassed expectations.

SBC, the nation's No. 2 local-phone provider, posted profits totaling
$1.9 billion, or 59 cents per share, in the three months ended March
30. That compares to $5.0 billion, or $1.50 cents a share, in the
first quarter of 2003 which included a benefit of more than $2.5
billion due to accounting changes.

Both quarters also included significant gains from selling holdings in
overseas telecom ventures. In the most recent quarter, SBC picked up
22 cents per share from its sale of its stake in Belgacom SA.

Not counting the one-time gains, SBC's earnings of 37 cents a share in
the latest quarter was five cents lower than the same period a year
ago, but exceeded the analyst consensus of 32 cents, according to
Thomson First Call.

San Antonio-based SBC posted revenue of $10.1 billion in the quarter,
down from about $10.4 billion in the first quarter of 2003.

Local-phone service provided more than half of SBC's revenue, but
sales dropped 9 percent to $5.23 billion.

SBC said its loss of local-phone customers have slowed in recent 
quarters. The company reported 305,000 access-line disconnects in the 
first quarter, down from 424,000 in the preceding quarter and 748,000 
in the first quarter of 2003.

Much of that local phone service revenue loss was offset by growth in 
broadband and data services, up 6.8 percent to $2.6 billion, and 
long-distance phone service, up 29.6 percent to $749 million.

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=41123945
 
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:30:33 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: "Jew Watch", Google, and Search Engine Optimization


An anticensorware investigation by Seth Finkelstein

Abstract: This report examines issues surrounding the high ranking of
an anti-semitic website, "JewWatch.com" for searches on the word
"Jew". The search results present complex issues of unintended
consequences and social dilemmas.

http://sethf.com/anticensorware/google/jew-watch.php

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