From editor@telecom-digest.org Sat Mar 13 01:32:02 2004 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.3) id i2D6W2218538; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:32:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:32:02 -0500 (EST) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200403130632.i2D6W2218538@massis.lcs.mit.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: massis.lcs.mit.edu: ptownson set sender to editor@telecom-digest.org using -f To: ptownson Approved: patsnewlist Subject: TELECOM Digest V23 #119 TELECOM Digest Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:32:00 EST Volume 23 : Issue 119 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Ever Heard of PeoplePC Online? (TELECOM Digest Editor) DTMF Digit Passthru (Zulu_Nation411) Re: EchoStar May Lose More After Removing Viacom's CBS (Steven J Sobol) Re: Anybody Know About Broadband Over Power Lines? (John Bartley) Re: SCO's Tapestry of Lies (Corrected URL) (Hudson Leighton) Re: Fax Tone at 3 a.m. to a Residence (Fritz Whittington) Re: Fax Tone at 3 a.m. to a Residence (Withheld) Re: Spam and the Law was Re: The Price of Email (Thomas A. Horsley) Re: Siemens 2415 Gigaset Phone (Friendly Citizen) Re: EchoStar Ergen Calls Viacom Deal 'Good Enough' (J Kelly) Caller ID for PC (J Kelly) Re: Seen on a Manhole Cover (Lincoln J. Kling-Cliby) Starbucks, HP to Launch In-Store Music Service (Monty Solomon) Last Laugh! Important Notify About Your E-mail Account (noreply@telecom) All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. 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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:03:56 EST An outfit based out of 100 Pine Street, Suite 1000 in San Francisco, CA appears to be a new national ISP, sort of like AOL; at least they are frequently comparing themselves and their features and their prices to AOL. I receieved their literature in the mail today, along with a free CD (in the style of AOL) good for a thirty day free trial of PeoplePC Online, then further payments will be $10.95 per month. This is a 56-K dialup arrangment, although for just $5 more per month, you can get the PeoplePC Online 'Accelerated' version where they do the usual tricks with 'certain web pages' and the way .jpg and text files will load. And they give the usual dislaimers about how effective the 'acceleration' will be, i.e. won't work on certain pages, etc, but when it does work it will be up to five times faster, etc. Now the comparisons to AOL begin: Price only $10.95 per month ($15.95 accelerated); AOL they claim is $23.00 They serve 258 area codes; AOL they claim serves 252. They have 9080 local access numbers; AOL they claim has 3851. They give you a 'smart dialer'; they claim AOL does not. It supposedly works with any flavor of Windows, except that the 'Accelerated' version will not work with Windows 95. They give free tech support on line, but charge $1.95 *per minute* to talk to you on the phone. Although you can use it 24/7, continuous use is subject to time-out procedures. Its up to you go make sure the local dialup number is truly local or in your calling area. Like AOL, PeoplePC Online claims they do not require credit cards. I am sure they are not foolish enough to do open-account billing (no one ever does that anymore at all) so I assume they work with checking accounts billed electronically on line, as AOL does. Anyone who did not get their coffee table coaster (i.e. a free CD to get started) is invited to call them at 1-888-5 TRYNOW to get one. Or you can go to http://www.peoplepc.com/go/bloom and they will probably load you up on line. Regards 'Bloom' : If you got the CD in the mail you were told to enter the promotional code 'BLOOM' when requested. And unlike AOL which the last I heard was giving a a million and forty five hours of free time to help you learn how to send Spam around the net successfully these new folks are giving you a month of free service instead before the clock starts ticking. Any comments or experiences? ------------------------------ From: javhusain@hotmail.com (Zulu_Nation411) Subject: DTMF Digit Passthrough Date: 12 Mar 2004 12:24:55 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com I am trying to get inbound DID routing on a fax card I purchased to work (RockForce DUO 2 Port Analog PCI Card) with my Nortel Merdian PBX Option 51c. The fax card requires DTMF pass thru. I am not sure how to set this up and my service people don't know either. The fax software tech told me to do the following: Test for DTMF digit pass through from your phone system. The easy way to test for DTMF passthrough is to plug one of the phone lines going to the fax server into a standard analog phone. Call one of the DID numbers that should be routed to this phone line. When the phone rings pick it up and the first think you hear before the call is connected should be the sequence of DID digits as DTMF digits. If you don't here this, you should go back and focus on the phone system. Anyone know how to do this with a Nortel Meridian switch or if this is even possible. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Steven J Sobol Subject: Re: EchoStar May Lose More After Removing Viacom's CBS Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:20:12 -0600 I said, about Jerry Springer, >> He makes me feel embarrassed to be an Ohio native, and I hope he >> doesn't get elected. Tom Betz, opening up a huge can of worms, countered with > Have you ever heard him give a political speech? > You might be surprised about the guy if you did. > I know I was. He's not just the putz he seems to be on his show. I don't think he's a putz. I think he's slime, with no ethics and no issues about exploiting people whenever he can, and for me (a native Ohioan), the fact that he's from Cincinnutty just bears that out. Cincinnutty, while one of the most beautiful areas in the state, is also one of the most conservative, intolerant areas in the state. I'd argue, *the* most conservative, intolerant area. I am from Cleveland but I lived in southwest Ohio for two years while going to school at the University of Dayton. Heaven help you if you aren't white and a member of one of the more popular sects of Christianity down there. Heaven help you if *any* of your social mores deviate from the accepted norms. For $DEITY's sake, I visited west-central Virginia -- Jerry Falwell country -- and didn't encounter as much crap as I did living down near Cincinnutty. Springer sold himself out long ago. He brings new meaning to the word "pander." There is no way in hell I'd want him in Congress. Regardless of the speeches he makes. This is the same slimebag who loves to continually give Neo-Nazis airtime and seems to have avoided any philisophical issues with it even though he's Jewish. And actually, my big problem with that *isn't* the Jew-Nazi issue, it's the fact that a few years ago, he had the *same* guy on his show at least two or three times and the guy didn't contribute anything to the discussion, except to make his point, over and over again, about how Blacks and Jews don't even deserve to share a planet with him. Forget the prejudice -- what's the point of having the guy on several times saying the same thing over and over, unless that's a point you want to push? He knows exactly what he's doing. He's not stupid. He's just a lame, greedy, Maury Povich-wannabe sellout. As much as I can't stand some of the trash that shows up on his show ... getting humiliated because they know they're going to be paid cash for showing up ... he's worse than them. JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA PGP: 0xE3AE35ED Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / sjsobol@JustThe.net Domain Names, $9.95/yr, 24x7 service: http://DomainNames.JustThe.net/ "someone once called me a sofa, but i didn't feel compelled to rush out and buy slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows 98/2000/2003 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Maury Povich? Isn't he another one of the same kind as Springer? I've seen his show once or twice and think he is the same kind of thing. Povich seems to specialize however in giving lie detector tests and DNA tests on his show to 'prove' who is the father or broken-hearted mother of some innocent little child who was dragged to the show, so that when the DNA/lie-detector test is completed the child can be displayed; the broken-hearted parent walks or runs off the stage while Povich and the camera follows and sticks a microphone/camera in the guy's face while s/he is so upset and grieved by the hateful things said and done? Same difference I think. Do you mean they actually pay money to those people for the humiliation they must suffer on national television? Regards having the Nazi apologist on his show over and over, are you sure that was not just a rerun of the original show? And Cincinnati ... isn't that the place last summer where the citizens had so much trouble with the police, and riots, etc? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:05:41 PST From: John Bartley or K7AAY@ARRL.NET Subject: Re: Anybody Know Anything About Broadband Over Power Lines? On 11 Mar 2004 08:51:46 -0800, news01@jmatt.net (Matt Simpson) wrote: > Does anybody know anything about broadband service provided over power > lines? > I'm in an area where cable and DSL are not available, and I'm not > really thrilled with the satellite option. I've been reading about > powerline broadband, which until recently seemed mostly experimental, > and hoping it would catch on. > Now I'm reading reports that Cinergy is starting to roll the service > out to their customers in the Cincinnati are (not geographically far > from me). > http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/03/02/biz_biz1acin.html > That makes my dreams about my own local rural co-op getting on the > bandwagon seem just a tad more realistic, althought it's probably > still a longshot. I realize that even though the power lines are > already there, there's still a significant capital startup cost > involved before they can start providing the service, so it still > might only be attractive in the urban/suburban settings where Cinergy > is providing it (that already have cable/DSL) instead of the boondocks > that really need it (at least they wouldn't have to worry about > competition). > Does anybody know anything about this service and how feasible it > might be as an option in areas where customers are a long way apart? All you need is one ham firing up a licensed and legal transmitter with as little as one watt on frequencies authorized for ham use (with amateur radio as the *primary* user, I might add, by international treaty), and the BPL feed fails. The Enrons of this world are trying to sell some snake oil to the Commission, but the three-quarters of a million hams in this country are underthrilled. So are the business users, military and government users (like FEMA and the NTIS), international shortwave broadcasters and other folks who have a right by law and treaty to use the frequencies the BPL swindlers are trying to horn in on. See http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/03/09/1/?nc=1 John Bartley K7AAY PDX CERT NET BET ARES ARC ------------------------------ From: hudsonl@skypoint.com (Hudson Leighton) Subject: Re: SCO's Tapestry of Lies (Corrected URL) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:58:45 -0600 Organization: MRRP In article , William Warren wrote: snip > http://east.perens.com/SCO/March2004.html Another good source on the soap opera that is SCO is: http://www.groklaw.net/ http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl ------------------------------ From: Fritz Whittington Subject: Re: Fax Tone at 3 a.m. to a Residence Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:23:41 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet On or about 2004-03-12 06:46, Gary Kelley whipped out a trusty #2 pencil and scribbled: > Please remove this number from your dialing system, it is a residence > and not a fax machine. The caller id number is 646-539-9007 and I traced > it back to Telecom and I'm hoping you could help me with this. > 954-433-3573 > Thanks, Gary > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well Gary, its not *this* Telecom > (Digest) you wrote to. The Google search turns up a previous post to Telecom Digest: > Lynn (lynn@no_thanks.com) > Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:29:12 GMT > * Review Index Sorted By: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] > * Next message: Nick Landsberg: "Re: Building a Voice Driven > Application" > * Previous message: Centigramparts.com: "Re: NEC and Centigram > Help From www.ProMemoInc.com" > * May be in reply to: Alex Smith: "Building a Voice-Driven > Application" > * Next in thread: dnhunt: "Re: Building a Voice-Driven Application" > This question may be off topic but ... > I've been getting strange calls (sometimes in the middle of the night) > from a number that requires the caller to enter a pin. Which carriers > provide these types of phone numbers? The number is 646-539-9007. > Thank you for your attention. I just called it and indeed, I'm prompted for a pin. By a female British accent. Strange. Fritz Whittington Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes ... That way when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes! ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Fax Tone at 3 a.m. to a Residence From: Withheld Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:14:52 -0600 Pat, please withhold my name and email, thanks. Gary Kelley wrote about Fax Tone at 3 a.m. to a Residence on Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:46:11 -0500: > Please remove this number from your dialing system, it is a residence > and not a fax machine. The caller id number is 646-539-9007 and I traced > it back to Telecom and I'm hoping you could help me with this. > 954-433-3573 > Thanks, Gary Gary -- My office has quite a few DID's and sometimes attempts are made to fax to these numbers, although most all of them are for phones, not fax. What I normally do is fax them back with a note informing the originator that they are attempting to fax to a voice line and to please discontinue. This usually solves the problem. However, if it's an automatic dialer doing the faxing which can't receive but can only send, this obviously won't help. Good luck. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think not only is it an automatic dialer but it has a password on it to prevent *that end* of the line from getting bothered with spam, etc. Go figure. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Spam and the Law was Re: The Price of Email is Constant From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Organization: AT&T Worldnet Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:36:39 GMT > It might be an issue if you try to host mailing lists, as the high > volume of email would raise some flags. But if you're doing that I > would hope you're not connecting through AOL, Comcast and their ilk > anyway. I think mailing lists ought to be part of the reform package anyway. All mailing lists need to be run on a "I absolutely positively must ack a round trip query from the mailing list admin" to get signed up. Any ISPs that let their users run mailing lists need to take steps to assure the lists are run this way or just run the list for their customers. (Alternatively, they need to insure that the subscription request was digitally signed -- that might be better since I wouldn't even get the one time ack requests that I'd have to waste time ignoring). -- >>==>> The *Best* political site >>==+ email: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net icbm: Delray Beach, FL | Free Software and Politics<<==+ ------------------------------ Reply-To: Friendly Citizen From: Friendly Citizen Subject: Re: Siemens 2415 Gigaset phone Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:16:23 GMT Organization: Road Runner - NC The following posts were made a long time ago, but with sales of the units still happening, I thought it would be helpful to post a helpful follow-up to the original poster's question. I called Siemens support and got the answer to this all-too-common problem. Press OK after all menu items below: Press Menu button Select Mobile Settings Select Local Settings Select Change PIN Enter the following code: *65# This should reset the handset to factory defaults. I verified this procedure works on a gigaset handset used with a 2420 system. >> Subject: Siemens 2415 Gigaset phone >> Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom.tech >> Date: 2002-12-30 20:59:20 PST >> Does anyone know how to reset the base PIN on this unit? I bought a >> used one and the PIN was already set by another person. I need to be >> able to get it back to the default. Can anyone please help? > Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom.tech > Subject: Re: Siemens 2415 Gigaset phone > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:40:10 -0500 > 888-777-0211 If they can't help you no one can. > We would, however, prefer that you would purchase your phones > new from now on, if you don't mind. > Steve at SELLCOM > http://www.sellcom.com > Discount multihandset cordless phones by Siemens, Vtech 5.8Ghz > EnGenius NEW EP436 4line (the longest range), Panasonic, > Twinhead notebooks, WatchGuard firewall, Okidata, Polycom! > If you sit at a desk www.ergochair.biz you owe it to yourself. ------------------------------ From: J Kelly Subject: Re: EchoStar Ergen Calls Viacom Deal 'Good Enough' Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:14:14 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:56:45 -0500, Monty Solomon wrote: > EchoStar, in its agreement, agreed to carry the channels it was > previously dead-set against, such as Noggin. Ergen appeared to > backtrack on some of his previous statements, saying that he saw value > in some of the new channels. Noggin has been on Dish since 1998, it is not a new channel. He would have lost quite a few customers by removing that channel, and he knew it (my kids love that channel). He was bluffing, he is a world class poker player. ------------------------------ From: J Kelly Subject: Caller ID for PC Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:29:34 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com Does anyone know of an inexpensive device for Caller ID on a PC that plugs into either a COM port or a USB port? I can't seem to find an inexpensive PCI modem that does CID, I've gone through 5 now that claim to, but they never work (damned winmodems!). I want to avoid using the old USR Sportster external modem due to the size, I'm hoping to find something more compact. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The phone line which drives my dial-up modem was a pass-through to a desk telephone set. Just go to Radio Shack and buy a stand-alone caller ID unit and set it on the table somewhere where you can see it easily. PAT] ------------------------------ From: chsvideo@hotmail.com (Lincoln J. King-Cliby) Subject: Re: Seen on a Manhole Cover Date: 12 Mar 2004 21:51:54 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Fred Goldstein wrote in message news:: > At 10 Mar 2004 20:31:40 -0800, chsvideo@hotmail.com (Lincoln > J. King-Cliby) said, >> And by the way, what exactly is a "DMS 100 large remote," anyways? > The LERG entries, which DSL Reports seems consistent with, are a bit > strange. It shows 760-750 as an RSC ("remote switching center", the > "large remote"), a remote node off of the San Marcos DMS-100 switch > (which also has a lot of Vista prefix codes on it). An RSC can serve > a few thousand lines, depending on load. It's run by the host > switch's processor, with backhaul trunks to the host, but has its own > internal switching matrix (and "emergency standalone" capabilities). > It's theoretically possible to put a few trunks onto an RSC, but > normally the trunks (to other switches) are all at the host. Interesting ... out of curiosity by "few thousand" do you mean "less than a prefix", "a prefix", or "a few prefixes"? (Further, must a exchange exist entirely on a RSC or can it be split between the RSC and the host switch?) > But if the entire prefix belongs to the university PBX, then the RSC > entry wouldn't make sense. PBX trunks are delivered from a host, not > an RSC; the purpose of an RSC is to deliver analog (well, and ISDN > BRI) lines. Large PBX systems have digital trunks, which are attached > to trunk ports on a DMS, and trunk ports are normally at the host. So > the PointSpan would be wired to the DMS host, not the remote. On the > other hand, if there are a few thousand PacBell lines on campus, or at > some point were (e.g., a Centrex, even if used primarily for some > random ISDN lines), then the remote would serve them. I get the definate impression that the PointSpan is just about as close to a carrier-class telephone switch as a PBX can get before you park an ESS or DMS-100 in your facility -- From what I've seen of it, it is not your average PBX, so I would have to believe what you're saying is (or at least should be) the case. There are very few true ISDN lines on campus as far as I am aware (Beginning of this week: 15, end of this week: 11) and I'm fairly sure that they're provisioned off of the PointSpan. At one point in the past the campus was (POTS/Analog) Centrex based, but AFAIK everything is now provisioned off of the PointSpan ... I think even the COCOTS (actually owned and operated by some 3rd party) hang off of the PointSpan [When I called an ANAC on one of them I got a 760-750-xxxx number, and our Telephone Services people will assign #s anywhere from -0001 to -9999 off of the PointSpan]. For what it's worth, I think the "Large Remote" lives in the "Telecommunications Building" which is located between two of our parking lots and about the size of a _small_ apartment ... I know where the various bits of the PointSpan live on campus, and that isn't it. Also, all of the copper bundles that (I'm assuming) used to come into campus from the "outside" have been hacked off right inside the cable vault and abandoned in place. Connections to the outside world appear to be entirely fiber-based, with the exception of the one coax for "my" CATV service. >> ...What gives -- why to we have a GTE manhole out there? > Most likely, the campus just happened to be on a backbone route to GTE's > territories, which are scattered all over southern California, including > the valley north of San Marcos, in western Riverside County. Aha, I guess I had assumed that GTE would either use some wireless method or route their traffic over "someone else's" network between territories rahter than resorting to their own backbone... don't ask me why ... And to make this even sadder, I live in a GTE (well, GTE dba Verizon) area in southwestern Riverside County 909-69x -- I guess it seemed so far out of place. Thanks for your reply! Lincoln ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:56:25 -0500 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Starbucks, HP to Launch In-Store Music Service SEATTLE, March 12 (Reuters) - Starbucks Corp. (NA SDAQ:SBUX) on Friday said it will launch a new service next week that will allow customers to create and buy CDs with songs chosen from a digital music library inside the coffee house. The new service, which will debut on Tuesday at a Starbucks outlet in Santa Monica, California, has been created through a partnership with computer maker Hewlett-Packard Co. (NYSE:HPQ), the companies said in a press release. No details were provided. BusinessWeek magazine on Thursday said the service would offer 250,000 songs and would expand into 2,500 Starbucks cafes over the next two years. - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40810602 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:37:36 -0600 Subject: Last Laugh! Important notify about your e-mail account. From: noreply@telecom-digest.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This not so funny spam showed up in my mailbox here at MIT on Friday. PAT] Dear user of e-mail server "Telecom-digest.org", We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your computer may contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and e-mail account safe, please, follow the instructions. For details see the attach. Sincerely, The Telecom-digest.org team http://www.telecom-digest.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There then followed a particularly nasty virus the 'Telecom-digest.org team' sent out around the net to everyone. NASTY IGNORANT PEOPLE DOING THIS.! PAT] ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, Yahoo Groups, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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