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TELECOM Digest     Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:03:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 11

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    JetBlue to Add Fox Video Entertainment System; Debut XM (Monty Solomon)
    AT&T 'Unlimited Country Plans' (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Caller-ID on Regular Phones Using a PBX (Carl Navarro)
    Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004,on 1-Jan-1984 (Kilo Delta Sierra)
    Re: NANP Numbering (Wesrock@aol.com)
    Re: NANP Numbering; Joey's Advice to the Unwashed Masses (David Winfrey)
    Re: The NANP, and Comments by the Digest's Editor (Joseph)
    NANP and Mr. Cuccia (Earle Robinson)
    Inventions (was Re: NANP Numbering) (Mark Brader)

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:03:31 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: JetBlue to Add Fox Video Entertainment System and Debut XM


NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 7, 2004--

   Low-Fare Carrier Will Offer up to 100 Channels of Satellite Radio
     Free of Charge and Add Movies and Episodes of "The Simpsons"

JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq:JBLU) will make flights even more entertaining
in 2004. JetBlue was the first carrier to debut up to 24 channels of
live DIRECTV(R)(a) programming in-flight in 2000, and remains the only
carrier offering satellite TV free at every seat.  Now, in agreements
with XM Satellite Radio (Nasdaq:XMSR) and News Corporation (NYSE:NWS),
(NYSE:NWS.A); (ASX:NCP), (ASX:NCPDP), JetBlue will add up to 100
channels of digital satellite radio and movie channels featuring 20th
Century Fox movies and episodes of Fox's popular TV series "The
Simpsons."

XM Satellite Radio's free in-flight service will allow JetBlue
customers to choose from XM's unmatched variety of music, news,
sports, information and entertainment, all with digital-quality audio
and coast-to-coast coverage. Current artist information and song title
playing will be displayed on JetBlue's seat-back TV screens to provide
a comprehensive audio-visual experience. The system is expected to be
introduced fleet-wide on JetBlue's Airbus A320 aircraft this year and
on the airline's new fleet of EMBRAER 190 aircraft as they are
introduced into service in 2005. In 2004, JetBlue will also add movie
channels which will be offered for a nominal fee. The first dedicated
in-flight service created by News Corporation's Fox Entertainment
Group will offer JetBlue customers first-run movies, television shows,
sports and news programming plus other original entertainment
developed by Fox. The digital video system will feature an in-seat
credit card payment system, whereby JetBlue customers can purchase Fox
entertainment options through a convenient credit card reader. LiveTV,
LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of JetBlue, will install the onboard
systems that will deliver the XM Satellite Radio and digital video
services.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40133815

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:06:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: AT&T 'Unlimited Country Plans'

     AT&T Leads Market with Innovative 'Unlimited Country Plans'
     - Jan 7, 2004 07:30 AM (PR Newswire)

Unique New Plans Offer Unlimited International Calling To 17 Countries.
Consumers Also Offered An Unlimited Asia Select And Unlimited Europe
                            Select Plan.

MORRISTOWN, N.J., Jan. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- AT&T today announced a
groundbreaking and industry-leading offer with its "AT&T Unlimited
Country(SM) Plans."  These exclusive AT&T calling plans provide
unlimited international calling to 17 popular countries for a specific
monthly plan fee.* As the industry leader in unlimited long distance
for domestic calling, AT&T continues to break new ground by broadening
its portfolio to include unlimited international calling to 17
countries.

With a monthly plan fee as low as $39.95 for unlimited calling to the
United Kingdom, calling across the ocean or around the world has never
been easier or more economical.  Consumers will enjoy the ease and
convenience of one low monthly plan fee for unlimited international
calls to the eligible country of their choice -- 24 hours a day, seven
days a week -- on direct-dialed calls made from home.  In addition,
subscribers who call any other country will receive AT&T's already low
international rates through the AT&T AnyHour Advantage Plan.  As a
special value at no additional charge, subscribers to any Unlimited
Country Plan will receive a flat rate on domestic long distance of 7
cents per minute on all interstate and in-state calls direct-dialed
from home.**

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40134455

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From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org>
Subject: Re: Caller-ID on Regular Phones using a PBX
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:07:38 -0500
Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America


On 6 Jan 2004 19:27:59 -0800, Chainsman <chainsman@netscape.net>
wrote:

> Hi, I have a home telephone system which I'm very pleased with but my
> family is distraught that it won't pass caller-ID to their regular
> phones.  I have looked around for systems that pass caller-ID to
> regular old phones but haven't found any so far.  I have heard that
> there is a new Panasonic unit that will pass caller-ID to regular
> phones.  Does anyone know of any systems that will do this?  My
> requirements are for a minimum of 2 outside lines and 6 extensions.

The Comdial DX-80 will pass CID to 4 S/L sets.  Since a system would
probably come with a couple of multi line sets, or you could double up
extensions, it might not be a problem.  I would guess that
correspondingly the Vodavi STS might do the same.

The Panasonic digital 308 will pass CID to one S/L station and you
could drive a couple of CID boxes.  I don't remember if the new
systems coming out will do CID to sets.


Carl Navarro

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From: kd1s@aol.comremvthis (Kilo Delta One Sierra)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:39:29 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Twenty Years Ago Today 1-Jan-2004, back on 1-Jan-1984


> I don't think it's a good idea to start an inter-regional war.  The
> current implementation of USF certainly leavs something to be desired,
> but the theory is as good as ever: the more people you can call, the
> more useful your phone is.  There are lots of involuntary transfers
> from one part of the country to another, and I sure hope you don't
> live in California because if you do, I'd like to have a few words
> about your water bill.

No, not California but Rhode Island. New England in general gets
screwed in the federal tax scheme. We put much more money in than we
get back, even when you include the Big Dig in Boston.

What blew my mind about the Big Dig is that most of it is 6 lane
highway. If you've ever driven the highways through Boston or even
Providence you know that six lanes isn't adequate.

The difference is obvious here in Providence. Once you break past
downtown Providence and points south, I-95 becomes 4 lanes. And every
day -- in the afternoon there's a huge pile-up during the commute at
the change from 4 to 3 lanes coming north.

For those living in Cranston and parts of Warwick they can take either
RI-10 in or I-295 to RI-6 which then dumps in at the end of RI-10
which then connects back to I-95 near the I-195 interchange.

Stupidity of government agencies never fails to amaze me. 

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From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:51:21 EST
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering


In a message dated Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:39:12 -0800 Joseph
<JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom> writes:

> Well, it's no different than what other places went through.  Smaller
> places had differing length phone numbers.  Many places in the UK had
> three digit telephone numbers up until a few years ago.  Many places
> in the US if they were small enough might have had as few as 3 digit
> telephone numbers as well.

      When I lived in Konawa, Oklahoma, during the early 1950s and was
owner of the Konawa Leader (weekly newspaper), the office number was
234 and my home number was, I believe, 287.  This was a dial exchange.

      The NANP, while in existence, was still in its preliminary
stages of being implemented.


Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com

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From: David Winfrey <dlw@nospam.patriot.net>
Subject: Re: NANP Numbering; Joey's Advice to the Unwashed Masses
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 13:04:58 -0000
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There you go, Earle! Did Joey get you
> straightened out, or didn't he?  Don't you just love Canadians who
> like to pretend they are arrogant USA citizens, with their general
> dislike for so much of the customs of the rest of the world?  PAT]

The editor's credibility might be improved substantially if he would
present facts to demonstrate why Joey's various points are not
correct.  Accusations of arrogance are not particularly useful;
rational argument requires actual data.

But this is Usenet.  Sorry, I forgot.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are forgiven for forgetting this 
time around.  But this Usenet (the very same!) is where Joey Lindstrom
can make comments to Earle such as:

(Quoting from the back issue a couple days ago:)

> Y'know, the way you really, really stretch credulity in order to
> construct an argument -- ANY argument -- that something French is better
> than something American, reminds me a whole lot of something that
> Robin Williams said in his recent concert video.  Imagine, if you
> will, Robin speaking in an over-the-top French accent, and saying
> something like the following (paraphrased to keep it in a g-rated
> context):

> "Ah, screw you Americans, we hate you ... What's that?  Ze Germans are
> coming?  'ALLO, AMERICANS!  WE LOVE YOU!!!"

> Joey Lindstrom

So while you are reminising about Usenet and the things you have for-
gotten about it, please remember the above as well. In no *moderated*
newsgroup would the above total disdain for an entire nation of people
be permitted, as Joey has done. And those final two lines above which
begin, "ah screw you Americans" was the basis of my response to Joey
Lindstrom. So while you complain about my dearth of factual matter,
perhaps you might ask Mr. Lindstrom to explain where the above fits 
in to anything.   PAT] 

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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom>
Subject: Re: The NANP, and Comments by the Digest's Editor
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 15:27:32 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.NOcom


On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:51:50 -0600 (CST), [Pat the comp.dcom.telecom
editor]  wrote:

> [I do not know what you are talking about when you
> say our numbering system is stable. So stable, in fact, that during 
> the 1990-2000 time period I had to change my number four times on
> account of changes in area codes.  I started out in 312, had it for
> many years, along with all of northern Illinois. Then it became 773
> because the crybaby banks and financial houses downtown kept wanting
> more and more and more and more phones, and *they* thought it was 
> unfair to make *them* change to 773, so everyone else in Chicago had
> to move to 773  to accomodate them (maybe so they would quit crying
> about what an expense it would be to make *them* have to change their
> stationary, etc ... so a few million rest of us had to change ours
> instead). If we had had a 'flexible' numbering system such as parts
> of Europe, then the stupid bankers could have had fifteen digit
> numbers if they wanted to cover all their PBX-extensions and the 
> rest of us would have stayed in 312, since the banks and large corp-
> orations downtown refused to give it up.   

The reality is that the form of the NANP has remained pretty much the
same since 1947.  The changes to area codes have happened because of
growth and also because of politics.

As was mentioned in another previous bit on this subject the fault for
you having to change your number the many times you had to was because
everyone did every possible thing that they could do to fight the
"inevitable" that instead of carving up areas into smaller and smaller
areas they instead did overlays and put another area code in the same
area where an area code already served.  In retrospect if people knew
what they do now about how there was going to be a run on procuring
new numbers between 1995 and 2002 they perhaps might have done things
differently.  Then again some areas probably wouldn't such as
Californians who have a fear of dialing extra digits on a local call
even though 80% of their calls require them to dial extra digits
anyway.  Politics has played a big part in the mess.  Not only in
Chicago, but in Boston among other places.  Places with clout got to
keep their old area code.  Places that didn't have clout were
relegated to getting a new area code with all the trouble and expense
that goes with it.

           remove NO from .NOcom to reply

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From: Earle Robinson <address removed at writer's request>
Subject: NANP and Mr. Cuccia
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:53:22 +0100


(Please mask my email address.  Thank you.)

First all, Mr. Cuccia taxes as arrogant anyone who disagrees with
him. Why an ad hominem attack?

Mr. Cuccia, not only are there far more people in China than in the
USA, but Europe has more people, too.

While the UK did fumble its modernization of the telephone numbering
system, this didn't occur in the rest of Europe. My number in Paris
has remained the same for 20 years now.  Friends of mine in the states
have endured 3, 4 or more area code changes during this time.

In the USA the dialing system is also very confusing. In some areas
you dial 7 digits for a local call, in others 10, and in others 11.

Why?

Mr. Cuccia also praises and repraises the "free" local calls in much of the
states. However, he omits a couple of salient points.  First, one pays much
more monthly for a telephone line in the states than here in France. So,
someone who doesn't make many local calls is out of pocket much less here
than in the USA.  Further, there are now plans that offer a fixed number of
minutes per month at a very reasonable rate, too, and some that are
unlimited usage.  

Unlike Mr. Cuccia, I have used both the NANP system and the French
system extensively. How can one write without experience?

Earle Robinson

------------------------------

Subject: Inventions (was: NANP Numbering)
Date: Wed,  7 Jan 2004 20:12:23 EST
From: msb@vex.net (Mark Brader)


Earle Robinson writes:

> The nuclear research was mostly done by men from Europe, too. Turing
> was English, the diesel engine was invented in Germany, movies in France
> ...  Radar and the decryption of German code were done in England. ...

The Enigma cipher was first broken in Poland, although the later
developments that enabled the Allies to continue breaking it
throughout the war, as well as the breaking of the more difficult
Geheimschreiber (code name "Fish") ciphers, did take place in England.

As for radar, the Germans, the British, the Americans, the French, and
the Japanese *all* invented it independently, and all kept it secret
from each other until the outbreak of war.  The first to complete a
working radar system was Rudolf Kühnold (Kuehnold) of Germany, in
1933-34.  The Germans were initially interested in naval applications,
and they had the first shipboard installation, in 1935.

Robert Watson-Watt of Britain invented radar independently in 1935,
and was determining the distance to targets months ahead of the
Germans.  The British government committed to using it for air defense
the same year, and by 1937 the British also had airborne radar
systems.  In the US, work on radar began in 1934 but proceeded more
slowly and a working system was not developed until 1936.  After the
war began, British and US researchers worked together to develop
better systems than either country had individually; much of this work
was in the US, which also contributed the word "radar" in 1940.  --

Mark Brader, Toronto "Unjutsly malinged? I think not."  
msb@vex.net --        Ross Howard

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