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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:25:00 EST    Volume 23 : Issue 107

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Circuit City to Carry Vonage Phones in 600 Stores (Monty Solomon)
    Review: Proving That a PC Can Rival TiVo (Monty Solomon)
    Patent Central to Microsoft Case Invalidated (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo to Webcast Investor/Analyst Day on March 5, 2004 (Monty Solomon)
    TiVo Expects to Top 10 mln Subscribers in 3-4 Years (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Verizon Wireless/Verizon Airfone Offer 10 Cents-a-Minute (M Solomon)
    Echostar, Viacom Deadlocked But Hope Seen in Dispute (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Saint Pierre, was Memories (John Levine)
    Re: Firms Look to Limit Liability for Online Security Breach (Landsberg)
    Re: Vonage with Modem and Fax (Alex)
    Voip Setup (Maxspd)
    A Mobile Media Mogul (Eric Friedebach)

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:45:24 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Circuit City to Carry Vonage Phones in 600 Stores


By Eric Auchard

NEW YORK, March 4 (Reuters) - Vonage, which provides inexpensive phone
service as an add-on for customers with high-speed Internet lines, on
Thursday said that it has reached its first deal with a national
retailer to sell its services.

Vonage, of Edison, New Jersey, said that Circuit City Stores, Inc. 
(NYSE:CC) will begin selling its services in 600 retail outlets
as well as online.

Vonage, which has sold more than 100,000 of its innovative Internet
phones since it began offering service two years ago, now expects
upward of 300,000 customers by the end of this year, higher than its
previous goal of 250,000 for 2004. Retail exposure should attract
additional subscribers, founder and Chief Executive Jeffrey Citron
said.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40757074

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:00:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Review: Proving That a PC Can Rival TiVo


By MATTHEW FORDAHL AP Technology Writer

SnapStream Media Inc.'s latest software is an excellent example of how
a personal computer can improve on a TV set: It offers more choices,
more information and, most important, more control over the viewing
experience.

The program is similar to the TV features in Microsoft Corp.'s Windows
XP Media Center Edition, but SnapStream offers more features _ without
the purchase of a so-called multimedia computer.

It even gives the standalone personal video recorder from TiVo Inc. a
run for its money.

The SnapStream software has undergone some major reworking, including
a name change from "Personal Video Station" to "Beyond TV 3." It's
addressed past annoyances by adding much-needed support for mouse
pointing devices, better program guide integration and greater
reliability.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40758597

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:10:19 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Patent Central to Microsoft Case Invalidated


By Reed Stevenson

SEATTLE, March 5 (Reuters) - The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has
invalidated a claim to Web browser technology central to a case
against Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:MSFT), a move that could spare the
software giant from paying more than half a billion dollars in
damages, according to documents obtained on Friday.

The patent agency's preliminary decision, if upheld, also means that
Microsoft will not be required to make changes to its Internet
Explorer Web browser that would have crippled the program's ability to
work with mini-programs that work over the Internet, such as the
Quicktime and Flash media players.

Last year, an Illinois jury delivered a $521 million verdict against
Microsoft for infringing on technology developed by a privately held
firm, Eolas Technologies Inc., and the University of California.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40766065

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:02:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo to Webcast Investor/Analyst Day on March 5, 2004


NEW YORK, March 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc. (Nasdaq: TIVO)
will be webcasting its Investor/Analyst Day Presentations on Friday,
March 5, 2004. The live webcast can be viewed by going to
http://www.shareholder.com/TiVo/medialist.cfm . An archive of the
webcast will be available within 24 hours of the end of the event and
can be viewed at http://www.shareholder.com/TiVo/medialist.cfm .

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40759838

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:08:57 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: TiVo Expects to Top 10 mln Subscribers in 3-4 Years


NEW YORK, March 5 (Reuters) - TiVo Inc. (NASDAQ:TIVO) on Friday said
it expects subscribers to its television recording service to increase
dramatically and revenues to grow as much as 80 percent annually over
the next three to four years, fueled by growing consumer acceptance of
the technology.

At a meeting with analysts, Chief Executive Michael Ramsey said he
expects the service, which lets users customize `qtelevision viewing
by recording shows on a built-in computer hard drive for playback
later, to have more than 10 million subscribers -- up from its current
total of 1.3 million.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40762038

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:43:09 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon Wireless and Verizon Airfone Offer 10 Cents-a-Minute


More details are on their web site
	http://www22.verizon.com/airfone/vzw/vzw_airfone_service.html

Monty

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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:15:20 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Echostar, Viacom Deadlocked But Hope Seen in Dispute


By Kenneth Li

NEW YORK, March 5 (Reuters) - Viacom Inc. (NYSE:VIAb) and EchoStar
Communications Corp. (NASDAQ:DISH) said on Friday they were deadlocked
but held out hope of resolving a contract dispute before a Monday
deadline that would leave EchoStar subscribers in major cities without
CBS programming.

After four months of deadlocked contract negotiations, EchoStar in
January filed a lawsuit in federal court in a bid to block Viacom from
pulling its broadcasts of local CBS stations from its subscribers in
New York, Los Angeles and 13 other media markets.

A judge last week gave EchoStar and Viacom until midnight Pacific Time
on Monday to reach a pact on broadcasting the CBS stations in those
markets. The dispute also affects Viacom-owned cable networks such as
MTV, VH1 and Nickelodeon.

The No. 2 U.S. satellite service, based in Englewood, Colorado, has
balked at what it has described as Viacom's demands that it carry new
additional channels such as the new Nicktoons channel in exchange for
the rights to broadcast CBS.

Viacom has dismissed EchoStar's legal claims and has called its
lawsuit an attempt to strong-arm the broadcaster in the long-running
contract talks.


     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=40767309

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Date: 6 Mar 2004 03:53:11 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Saint Pierre, was Memories
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Nope.  Just +508 xx xx xx.   See http://www.st-pierre-et-miquelon.com/

Actually +508 41 xx xx, since it's a rather small exchange.

The local ISP, which belongs to the telco, is at
http://www.cheznoo.net.  They offer all the usual stuff, dialup, cable
modem (they own the cable TV network), web hosting.  Near the upper
right of their home page the "Annuaire" link takes you to the local
phone book along with service numbers like 15 for ambulance.  The
spmtelecom.com site describes their Ameris mobile phone system which
has good coverage but is rather pricey and has the usual politically
goofy rates, e.g., E1.10 to the US, but E0.68 to French Guyana because
it's domestic.

By the way, a traceroute to cheznoo.net reveals that they're connected
via Newfoundland, not via France.  I don't know whether voice or other
traffic also takes that route.

John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner http://iecc.com/johnl
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

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From: Nick Landsberg <hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net>
Reply-To: hukolau@NOSPAM.att.net
Subject: Re: Firms Look to Limit Liability for Online Security Breaches
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:46:23 GMT
Organization: AT&T Worldnet


Monty Solomon wrote:

> By Jonathan Krim
> Washington Post Staff Writer

> In the face of ongoing attacks by computer hackers, some companies
> that store their customers' personal data are adopting a new defensive
> tactic: If your information is stolen, they're not legally
> responsible.

> Across the Internet, retailers and other service providers that handle
> consumer transactions are requiring customers to agree to waive any
> right to sue the companies if the businesses are hacked, regardless of
> how secure their systems are.

> The waivers are contained in lengthy terms-of-use agreements that
> consumers often click to accept without reading closely.

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31874-2004Mar4.html

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How odd ... so if a company does a real
> schlocky job of maintaining their computer systems and the customer
> database all leaks out, you cannot blame the company any longer.  PAT]

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the principle of "due diligence" would
apply here.  If they sat on their rumps and did nothing to prevent the
information from being stolen, even with the TOU agreements, then you
would probably have a case.

Then again, what's with the thousand line "terms of use" (TOU)
agreements?

I was on a site the other day which advertised something I *might* be
interested in. I clicked on the link, and up popped a page which asked
me to sign up.  The TOU agreement was in a 2.5 line scroll box, maybe
20 characters wide.  Obviously readable only by anal-retentives.  To
read the whole thing you had to scroll down through well over 50 lines
(I stopped at about 50).  No options to open a separate page with the
whole agreement there.  No options to print it out, etc.

I called the number and asked for a copy of the TOU agreement before
signing up.  The droid said ... "You have to sign up and then we will
send you the terms of use agreement if you request it."

Thanks but no thanks.

Now, this is the same stuff that spammers do.  They comply with the
"letter of the law" but not the spirit.

In something like real-estate contracts, I thought it was now illegal
to hide the details in the small print.  This is tantamount to hiding
the details in the small print.


"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
ingenious" - A. Bloch

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From: alex@totallynerd.com (Alex)
Subject: Re: Vonage with Modem and Fax
Date:  5 Mar 2004 06:03:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


John and Pat, 

Thanks for the info ... but after contacting Vonage via email, they
said they don't have my area yet but should soon.  So, I'll hold-off
until they're around here before pursuing it further.

Thanks for your time and info on this,

Alex

John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote in message
news:<telecom23.105.4@telecom-digest.org>:

>> I'm talking about running a regular modem, such as a Zoom, USR, etc,
>> over the Vonage lines then a standard analog modem would as well,

> Forget it.

>> They say Fax machines will work, but Faxes are generally 9600 bps. 
>> I need 28,800 bps for a good PPP connection.

> I find that faxes usually work, but their compression scheme is written
> with faxes in mind.  If you need 28K dialup, you need a real phone.

> I like my Vonage phone just fine, but I wouldn't want it as the only
> phone in the house because it doesn't work when the power fails, and
> its 911 service is inferior to that on a real phone.

> Regards,

> John Levine johnl@iecc.com Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies
> Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
> Sewer Commissioner
> "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried this experiment as I promised I
> would do in the last issue. When I tried plugging a fax machine
> directly into the Vonage adapter, it worked fine. When I plugged in
> one of the (computer) modems directly to the Vonage adapter, it worked
> mostly okay at 300-1200 baud, or even 9600 baud. But it just would not
> do any better. So my suggestion would be to put Vonage on for your
> main line and also keep one telco line as an overflow for the Vonage
> and for your incoming dialup sessions.    PAT]

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: As far as 'not having lines yet in your
area', I'd not waste a lot of time, but check in every day or three
and see how long it takes them to get in your area. When I first
started with Vonage (last April), they were only serving basically the
west and east coasts with scattered 'pops' in the middle west, but
nothing I could use. They did not send out any special announcements
about moving into the central states area, but one day I decided to 
check (assuming I would still find nothing useful in the midwest), but 
lo-and-behold, this time they had 'pops' all over Missouri, Kansas 
and Oklahoma, so I swapped out my San Francisco line for a much closer
one in Winfield, Kansas (620 area, same as myself). They seem to be
very rapidly expanding, just as MCI/Sprint did in the early part of 
the 1970's. So keep watching. They also offer 800 numbers now. If you
have any line of theirs, you can get a 'virtual' 800 number for five
dollars per month with a hundred minutes of talk time per month
included. So something like that might work for you also.   PAT] 

------------------------------

From: maxspd01@hotmail.com (Maxspd)
Subject: Voip Setup
Date:  5 Mar 2004 15:27:46 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I was wondering what it take to setup a phone company like Vonage?
(Highly technical description is fine).


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, let's start with the
money. You'll need a lot of it, maybe a bank can help you on that.
You will need a truckload of DID lines, preferably in every single
phone exchange everywhere, unless you were planning to build your 
own exchanges. Until/unless/ever you get to the point where all 
your traffic stays on your own network, you'll need to have good
credit with the various telcos to pay some humongous billings for
your off-net traffic (both in and out) which will be 90 percent or
more of it. You'll need a vendor for your VOIP boxes, such as Cisco
or Motorola, and have enough money to get your way with them regards
how the adapter boxes are to be programmed, etc. Assume all the above
will actually have to happen months or even a year before you are 
actually in a position to begin selling your service. That's for
starters.   PAT]

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From: friedebach@yahoo.com (Eric Friedebach)
Subject: A Mobile Media Mogul
Date: 5 Mar 2004 16:01:52 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Arik Hesseldahl, 03.05.04, Forbes.com

NEW YORK - Mobile phones are quickly turning into something more than
what you use to talk to other people. They are increasingly becoming a
source of entertainment.

They're taking pictures. They're playing music. They're displaying
video. And they're becoming an ever-more-popular platform for playing
video games.

All these new features are intended to boost the number that wireless
carriers live by, known as ARPU -- average revenue per user. The trick
is to convince customers to use their phones for a lot more than
talking. In Europe and Japan this has worked out a lot better than in
the United States, at least so far. Americans still like to spend most
of their time talking on their phones, and aren't as likely to use
them to send messages with pictures attached.

http://www.forbes.com/technology/2004/03/05/cx_ah_0305tentech.html

Note from Eric:

I've received something new on my mobile handset this past week; spam.
I think they knew what they were sending *to* since the character
limit was not exceeded. Just a quick note saying I could have the
figure of a supermodel if I called an 800 number.

Eric Friedebach
/No Dirty Words On The Whiteboard/

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