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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 16 Sep 97 21:36:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 251

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Dyslexic Telephone Switch Causes Billing Errors (Robert J. Perillo)
    Bell Atlantic Changes re: Wire Maintenence (John McGing)
    Reflections on PCS'97 (Tara D. Mahon)
    Phone System Pricing (was Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare...) (Steve Hayes)
    Re: Phoning Home to 5 (John Mianowski)
    Re: Area Code 209 Split - CPUC News Release (Laura Twombly)
    Re: California's 209 NPA Split and MedicAlert (Tom Watson)
    Re: Wireless ISPs and Free Competition (Zev Rubenstein)

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 18:22 EDT
From: Perillo@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Robert J. Perillo)
Subject: Dyslexic Telephone Switch Causes Billing Errors


    Northern Telecom Ltd. stated last week that its widely used
DMS-100 telephone switch caused numerous billing errors in many phone
company central offices due to a software bug introduced during a
software upgrade this summer. The software glitch caused the billing
interface to become dyslexic and use the wrong area code in phone
company Central Offices covering more than one area code.  The
software snafu was fixed after about a month of erroneous billings.

    Net users calling their "fixed price" local access number found
hundreds of dollars of overcharges on their telephone bills this
summer. The local number was billed as a toll call with a different
area code attached. To add to the confusion, customers were told by
their local telephone company that the billing problem was with their
long distance company or the Internet Service Provider (ISP). And
these companies directed customers back to the local telephone
company. Customers were refused an explanation but were finally told
that it was a "System Error".

    Pacific Bell acknowledged that 167,000 Californians, mainly in the
Bay Area's 415 and 510 area codes and 805 near Los Angeles, were
billed $667,000 in unwarranted local calls. The problem was also
reported by Nynex customers (now Bell Atlantic) in the New York City
area.

    I do not understand why complete testing and some sort of
independent review was not done by NorTel before they released the
software upgrade? The local telephone companies should also have some
sort of Quality Assurance program in place before they allow a
contractor to upgrade software in their Central Offices?

    I also do not understand why the local telephone companies did not
handle the problem better in terms of customer service, and inform all
possible affected customer's of the problem?

[References: Inter@ctive Week, "Net Users Overcharged in Glitch",
             by Louis Trager, 08-Sep-1997.

             Forbes Magazine, "Midsummer madness, New technology
             is marvelous, except when it isn't. System Errors",
             by Dan Seligman, 08-Sep-1997, page 234. ]


Robert J. Perillo, CCP       Richmond, VA      Perillo@dockmaster.ncsc.mil

------------------------------

From: jmcging@dm.net (John McGing)
Subject: Bell Atlantic Changes re: Wire Maintenence
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 22:30:36 GMT
Organization: @Home Networks


Note the out they put in if you run a modem on the line (or a fax, I
guess.)


BellAtlantic

Dear Customer,

September 1997

The Terms & Conditions for Bell Atlantic Guardian Enhanced Maintenance
Service and Optional Wire Maintenance (the "Plans") have been
revised. These changes will become effective on November 1" 1997. A
copy of the new Terms & Conditions is enclosed. We encourage you to
take the time to review the revised Terms & Conditions. A brief
description of the changes to the Terms & Conditions are listed below.

Description of the Plans - Optional Wire Maintenance : The description
of the service has been revised to indicate that coverage applies to
the inside wire and jacks associated with a Bell Atlantic or other
eligible carrier's dial tone line. Inside wire and jacks associated
with a dial tone line service not protected by the plan are not
covered under the Plan.

The description has also been revised to indicate that a service
charge may apply when a repair person is dispatched and the problem is
with the transmission or receipt of data or signals which is beyond
the operating capabilities of the dial tone line. For example, using a
voice grade dial tone line to transmit or receive data or signals.

Description of the Plans : Guardian Enhanced Maintenance Service : The
description of the service has been revised to indicate that a service
charge may apply when a repair person is dispatched and the problem is
with the transmission or receipt of data or signals which is beyond
the operating capabilities of the dial tone line. For example, using a
voice grade line to transmit or receive data or signals. Additionally,
a sentence has been added to indicate that Guardian Enhanced
Maintenance Service is not available for residential ISDN lines.

Charges : A late payment charge has been added. A late payment charge
may be applied to the unpaid balance of the bill for each billing
period in which you fail to pay the bill in full by the due date.

Exclusions : Two exclusions have been added to the Plans. In West
Virginia, repairs resulting from major fires or acts of nature, such
as floods, wind-storms and earthquakes will no be longer covered by
the Plans. These exclusions have previously applied in all other states
within the Bell Atlantic mid Atlantic service area.

As noted above, an exclusion has been added to indicate that the Plans
do not cover malfunctions in the dial tone line resulting from the use
of voice grade lines to transmit or receive data or signals which
exceed the operating capabilities of the line. A service charge may
apply if a repair person is dispatched and the problem is determined
to be of that type.

Non-acceptance Instructions : If you do not wish to accept the above
changes, you may terminate your participation under the Plan at any
time by contacting Bell Atlantic al the number shown below. If you
wish to continue your subscription to the Plan, do nothing. The Plan
will remain on your line pursuant to the revised Terms & Conditions.

Should you have any questions, please call us at 1 -800-232-4008.


 Sincerely,
 Glenn Pettit
 Assistant Product Manager

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 10:51:36 +0100
From: Tara D. Mahon <tara@insight-corp.com>
Subject: Reflections on PCS'97


Hi Pat and DIGEST,

The following went out as part of Insight's email newsletter,
NewsFirst Telecom, yesterday -- thought the list would be interested.

Best Regards,
Tara D. Mahon, tara@insight-corp.com
The Insight Research Corporation


>>>NEWSFIRST EXTRA
   Reflections on the PCIA's PCS'97 Show, Dallas, TX

As Texans are fond of telling everybody, things are bigger and better
in Texas.  This year's PCIA Personal Communications Showcase
conference, held September 9-12, seemed to confirm this, with over
20,000 attendees and 600 vendors loudly proclaiming their wares.  On
the show floor were singing salesmen at PageNet, dancers at Samsung,
H. G. Wells at Ericsson, and several towering antennae.

Amid the noise and hoopla, we also observed signs of important trends
in the wireless industry:

    o Wireless handsets for cellular or PCS operation are rapidly 
      becoming commodities.  

Several vendors showed very similar models with price and distribution
as the only clear differentiators.  While market leaders sought to
create distinct market niches--Nokia with style, Motorola with small
size and range of products, Sony with innovative design-- the growing
list of vendors, plus new products from Samsung and Lucent/Philips,
make this an increasingly crowded market.  For several vendors,
innovative software from Unwired Planet and GeoWorks provides Internet
access and enhanced wireless services.


    o Wireless Local Loop has arrived.  

Interesting new products from Mitsubishi, LG Electronics, Sony and
others give carriers and installers a range of choices in this
increasingly important market.  We even saw a version of the Japanese
PHS wireless system for use in the US.  Using both the licensed and
unlicensed PCS frequency bands, vendors are meeting the demand for
lower cost alternatives to stringing more copper wire.  Insight sees
this as a rapidly growing and potentially exciting market both in the
US and in developing countries.


    o Competition between the CDMA, TDMA, and GSM digital protocols
      continues.  

By now most vendors realize that Qualcomm's CDMA technology really
works, while end-users want features and are confused by technology.
As of mid-1997 there were 44 million wireless phones registered in the
US and market research is finding households with multiple wireless
phones.  Insight sees success in this competitive market increasingly
being determined by how well carriers can meet users' needs for
coverage, security (especially for business users), and network
reliability.


    o There was a lot of talk but few announcements of LMDS
      products.

Since the FCC announced last March that it will auction off spectrum
in the 28-31 Ghz band for this new service, there has been a lot of
speculation about its performance and competitive benefits.  There is
also something of a backlash against more auctions and vendors' taking
on large amounts of debt.  Insight sees LMDS as one of several local
loop distribution technologies.  LMDS has advantages for carriers
entering a new market and initially having limited penetration or
market share.  Its cost advantages in these "thin" markets for CLECs
and other new carriers should make it valuable, especially for
providing "bursty" services to smaller establishments.

    o As carriers seek to differentiate their services, security or
      fraud reduction is being recognized as a problem facing 
      carriers and their corporate customers. 

Just as "churn" was the buzz word that would get carriers' attention
last year, so systems and software vendors from Lucent Technologies to
Systems Link Corp. see fraud reduction as an important sales
opportunity.

Insight Research would be pleased to discuss any of these issues and
how they might apply to your firm.  For further discussions, please
contact Michael French, Vice President of Market Research at (973) 605
-1400, or by e-mail at michael@mf.insight-corp.com.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:34:09 -0400
From: Steve Hayes <SteveHayes@compuserve.com>
Subject: Phone System Pricing (was Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare...)


In Telecom Digest V17 #241, Dave Stott wrote:

> I did the arithmetic a little differently.  If I'm an ISP and buy a
> business line for $35 (the going rate in Phoenix from U S WEST), hook
> a modem up to it for incoming calls, then receive calls every single
> minute of every single day in a typical 30 day month (43,240 busy
> minutes), then I'm paying 0.081 cents/minute for access.  If, more
> typically, I use the specific line 75% of the time (32,400 busy
> minutes), then I'm paying .108 cents/minute for access.

>If IXCs are paying PacBell

>> versus $0.014 per minute paid to the local phone company for
>> handling connections to a long distance carrier

> then there isn't that much difference.

Dave - check your arithmetic. $0.014 per minute is 1.4
cents/minute. That is about 13 times as much as .108
cents/minute. Quite a difference, I'd say.

In any case, much of that $35 is paying for the physical line to the
ISP.  I'm sure that the IXC has to either provide the physical
interconnection itself or pay something comparable to or more than
$35/month for it.

In my opinion, the whole thing is a mess. Most people in North America
have become used to "unlimited free" local calls which are heavily
cross-subsidized by that 1.4 cents/minute and (in most places)
relatively high line rentals.  Here in Britain, we have the opposite
situation - lower line rentals and (in general) lower long-distance
rates but hefty local call rates (about 5c/min daytime).  Neither is a
satisfactory situation. They don't reflect the real costs; resulting
in poor utilization of the telecommunications infrastructure.

My prescription would be:

  1 - Phone service should be metered like electricity. With per-minute
non-fixed costs in the fraction of a cent range, the metered rate
might be about 0.  5 cent/min - a bit more for long distance. This
sort of rate shouldn't deter most people from using the phone, any
more than electricity rates deter most people from turning on a
light. It would deter people from abusing the system with ISP
connections nailed up all day, etc. If someone still wanted a
nailed-up connection, they would be paying enough to cover the extra
costs.

 2 - The metered rate would not provide for itemized billing any more
than you get itemized billing when you switch on a light. If you
still need itemization even at 0.5 cents/minute, you could buy
recording equipment or perhaps Telco could offer this service at
extra cost. I suspect it costs as much to bill calls unde r the
present system as it does to connect them. It must cost a whole lot
more to promote all those confusing call plans, to administer all
those charge card and collect call charges and to sort out all the
billing disputes. And what about the costs of area code splits
because every competing carrier needs its own office codes for rating
purposes?

3 - Line rentals should - on average - cover fixed costs plus a
reasonable mark-up.  This would tend to be higher than at present but
would be partly offset in most parts of North America by stripping
out the current payment for those "free" local calls.

4 - In time, competition would drive all these prices down and bring
them even closer to costs. With the present arrangements, there's much
less incentive to focus on costs and much more to focus on silly
marketing gimmicks. If you're at long-distance carrier paying 2.8
cents/minute for local network access, there's not much incentive to
work on the 1 cent/minute or so it actually costs to connect the
calls.

5 - Payphones should charge a fixed per-minute cash amount on all
calls (except emergency) in addition to the metered charge to cover
the cost of installing and maintaining the phone. No doubt, some other
arrangement could be set up to allow calls to be made without coins
but this arrangement should cover its own administrative costs. I'd
say that this cost would be so much higher that everyone would decide
to put the coins in instead. As an aside, this already happens in
most of Europe. In Britain, you can make a short call to anywhere in
the country with a 10p coin (about 15 cents). Very few people go
through the operator to make a collect call for about 10 times as
much.

6 - Where it was necessary to subsidize phone service (rural and
low-income), this should be explicit and probably a responsibility of
government. The revenue could be raised by a percentage tax on all
telecommunications services.

Although I'm sure that most telcos are making quite ample profits, I
don't see this as the real problem. It's more that the present price
structures prevent efficient use of the system and lead to massive
overheads which we all end up paying fo r.


Steve Hayes, Swansea, Wales, UK

------------------------------

From: mianows@ix.netcom.com (John Mianowski)
Subject: Re: Phoning Home to 5
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:26:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom


When I was in the second grade, our small town got dial.  It was a
VERY big deal, with open houses at the CO, training presentations at
the school, etc.

I have a very vivid memory, from about three or four years before,
having the following exchange:

(Young child picks up phone handset).
Operator:  "Number please."
Child:  "459."
Operator:  "Their mother is sleeping."

My friend's mother was a telephone operator, who had apparently worked
the previous overnight shift.  The day operator of course knew this,
and would not put my call through!!


JM

------------------------------

From: Laura Twombly <latwomb@PacBell.COM>
Subject: Re: Area Code 209 Split - CPUC News Release
Date: 16 Sep 1997 19:15:45 GMT
Organization: ESAC


Leonard Erickson <shadow@krypton.rain.com> wrote in article
<telecom17.249.11@telecom-digest.org>:

> Anthony Argyriou <anthony@alphageo.com> writes:

>> The 209 area code split will be implemented in the following stages: 

>> November 14, 1998 Start of Permissive Dialing 
>> May 15, 1999 Start of Mandatory Dialing 
>> August 21, 1999 End of Mandatory Dialing. 

> Excuse me? *End* of Mandatory dialing? I think someone at the CPUC is
> using a bit too much "medical" marijuana. :-)

It sounds goofy, but it's a useful name for what occurs at that time.
That is when the new codes that the split released will begin to be
assigned.  The rest of the available codes will be removed from the
special announcement that says something to the effect of "you must
dial area code XXX."  Which means that customers that misdial after
that point will reach the standard Vacant Code announcement, or a
wrong number.


Laura Twombly

------------------------------

From: tsw@cagent.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Re: California's 209 NPA Split and MedicAlert
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:47:37 -0700
Organization: CagEnt, Inc.


In article <telecom17.244.2@telecom-digest.org>, Mark J. Cuccia
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> wrote:

> Could someone explain to me exactly _HOW_ these MedicAlert devices work?
> I was under the impression that a _LOCAL_ telephone number of a _local_
> hospital or emergency reporting center would be dialed upon pressing the
> 'panic' button, _or_ at least a toll-FREE 800 (or 888) number would be
> programmed-in to be dialed. Do all MedicAlert signaling devices
> throughout the US dial-out to a California 209 (toll) number?

Medic Alert was founded BEFORE 800 numbers were in existance (or used
very often) and as such, the early bracelets had instructions to call
a 209 number COLLECT to get the 'vital' information.  Later they did
get an 800 number, but not until LOTS of bracelets had been issued.
Thus I can see the reason why a particular number in 209 should
continue to be that way.

Of course, the phone company could do the "right thing" and setup a
one-number CO that forwards the particular number to the correct area code
(or some nice automated response).

The fact remains, the number MUST be protected, as it is a "cast in
stone" style number.  I suspect that MedicAlert did some early
negotation with the phone company (which was quite easy then) to
insure that it would be "protected".

Yes, there are lots of nice "igh-tech" solutions, but this is a
political decision, and "high-tech" doesn't enter into the decision,
only emotions.  (*SIGH*)

Perhaps we should re-unite the Bell System. (That's another topic,
please create a new thread for it).


tsw@cagent.com         (Home: tsw@johana.com)
Please forward spam to: annagram@hr.house.gov (my Congressman), I do.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:23:38 -0400
From: Zev Rubenstein <zev@predictive.com>
Subject: Re: Wireless ISPs and Free Competition


Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (ghosh@firstmonday.dk) writes:

> Obviously ISPs should network themselves with the most cost-effective
> technology possible, and the FCC part 15 spectrum is great for that.

etc.

Regarding ISPs networking themselves (in the business sense), check
out Verio (http://www.verio.com), which has gotten lots of funding to
buy smaller ISPs to create a nationwide network.

Regarding wireless ISPs, check out http://www.warpdrive.net/hires/index.htm 

They are one of many wireless ISPs; they are using UHF frequencies for
fixed wireless connectivity. I was going to use them myself, but am
out of their current service area.

Regarding bypass of the LEC in general by ISPs and NSPs, there was a
great article a few weeks ago in Inter@ctive Week, which discussed how
companies like Concentric Networks were applying for CLEC (competetive
local exchange carrier) status. Concentric in particular doesn't offer
ISDN service: they are banking on xDSL longer term, and are using
frame relay and fractional T1 to service their market, which is
primarily corporate & home office.

As wireless technology is better able to compete with wireline
infrastructure for bypass, there will likely be a price point where
NSPs (like Concentric), larger ISPs and merged ISPs (e.g. Verio
affiliates) eager to bypass the LEC bottleneck will pick the
appropriate wireless technology to reach customers. Recall, also, that
AT&T announced plans to use proprietary technology developed by AT&T
Wireless Services (AWS) to do the same for both voice and data. (I
recognize that there are those who claim that AWS is bluffing; I'm
only pointing out that there are others with the same concept).  

Finally, MCI, which has always stuck to a reseller strategy in
wireless and a build-infrastructure strategy in local service (in some
areas) may choose to do the same: buying spare wireless capacity as it
arrives (as George Guilder predicts it will).


Zev Rubenstein
Business Development Manager
Predictive Systems
510-749-3210
zev@predictive.com

------------------------------

End of TELECOM Digest V17 #251
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Subject: TELECOM Digest V17 #252

TELECOM Digest     Tue, 16 Sep 97 22:25:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 252

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Indian Cabinet Clears Private ISP Policy Leaving Details to DoT (R Ghosh)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Heheheheh (H. Peter Anvin)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (Fred Goodwin)
    Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market (F Goldstein)
    Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market (M Chance)
    Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market (R McMillin)
    Re: BellSouth Refuses 900 Service to Charities (Michael Kagalenko)
    Re: BellSouth Refuses 900 Service to Charities (Clive D.W. Feather)
    Re: California's 209 NPA Split and MedicAlert (Bruce Wilson)
    Re: Nextel Cellular? (Michael D. Sullivan)

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Subject: Indian Cabinet Clears Private ISP Policy Leaving Details to DoT
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:53:12 PDT
From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Reply-To: rishab@dxm.org
Organization: Deus X Machina, New Delhi


The Indian Techonomist - bulletin, September 16, 1997
Copyright (C) 1997 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh

Indian Cabinet clears private ISP policy

* Broad outlines cleared, details left for later
* Telecom capacity shortage: $250 mil backbone plan
* Power utility, railways long-distance telecom networks
     
     September 16, 1997: The Indian Cabinet in a
     meeting today cleared the policy proposal to
     allow private Internet service providers. As
     predicted by The Techonomist (August 31), what 
     was cleared by the Cabinet makes up the broad 
     outlines of the new Internet policy environment: 
     no licence fees for two years, reduced telecom 
     tariffs, traffic to be routed through the international
     telecoms monopoly (and till now the Internet monopoly), 
     VSNL.
     
     The devil is certainly in the details here, and
     Department of Telecoms (DoT, the telecoms
     monopoly) has apparently evaded others'
     attempts to get it to include specific
     licensing terms in the policy approved by
     Cabinet. It is now up to the DoT to decide what
     exactly the new tariffs should be, and to whom
     they will apply. It remains unclear whether
     private operators' traffic must be routed
     through VSNL's TCP/IP gateway, or through
     transcontinental telecom capacity (also leased
     through VSNL).
     
     The policy on direct interconnectivity between
     private operators has not been clearly
     specified - the DoT has always preferred to act
     as intermediary, or penalise links between
     separate private operators with especially
     increased telecom tariffs. However, DoT
     Secretary A V Gokak had earlier this month said
     that interconnections would probably be
     allowed, ending the ridiculous situation where
     traffic between to geographically proximate
     nodes in separate networks has to take a path
     half-way round the world. Mr Gokak had also
     indicated that private operators would be free
     to set tariff structures for their customers,
     with the market, rather than the DoT
     determining prices. (Previously, private e-mail
     operators had to stick to DoT-specified tariff
     bands.)

DoT "backbone" unlikely to ease capacity constraints
     
     There is no doubt that the growth in Internet
     users will take off rapidly - there are about
     50,000 commercial subscribers today. Given the
     continuing restraints on operators, and
     capacity constraints, the number of Internet
     hosts will probably remain pitiful (barely a
     thousand), and Indian web sites will continue
     to be hosted off US-based servers.
     
     The DoT is also being urged to build telecom
     capacity specifically for an Internet backbone.
     It is not particularly keen to do so, given the
     far higher profit margins in extending India's
     limited infrastructure for telephony traffic.
     There is a proposal to build an Internet
     backbone, budgeted at roughly $250 million, but
     DoT cannot reasonably be expected to find the
     money on its own. It is, of course, spending
     several billion dollars on expanding its
     telecom network, and part of that may go into a
     dedicated Internet backbone - if someone else
     pays for it.

Telecom capacity off power utility, railways'
networks might
     
     Proposals have been floating around the
     corridors of government for alternative long-
     distance networks operated by the railways (a
     government Ministry) and the electricity
     transmission utility (Power Grid Corporation of
     India, PGCL). Both have huge property giving
     rights of way across the country, and the
     Ministry of Railways already runs a vast
     internal telecoms network. Both see long-
     distance telephony as a money-spinner rather
     more profitable than their core operations, and
     would like to build bulk capacity for either
     the DoT or private operators.
     
     India is expected to end the DoT's monopoly on
     domestic long-distance traffic in 1999 (the
     DoT's local monopoly has been in the process of
     ending since 1995, the first private local
     wireline operator plans to start operations
     this November). For the moment, the government
     is not allowing the Railways or PGCL to go
     ahead with joint-ventures with private or
     foreign companies, it is "studying the issue."
     
     Perhaps a good experimental first step would be
     to let the Railways sell the spare capacity on
     its telecoms network - much of it optical fibre
     - to new private Internet operators. As a
     compromise, the Railways could do this at non-
     competitive rates, sharing some revenue with
     the DoT. Given the DoT's attitude to new
     services - which is paranoid rather than
     welcoming - this solution to the shortage of
     available telecoms capacity is not very likely.
     
The Indian Techonomist - http://dxm.org/techonomist/news
Copyright (C) 1997 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
Reproduction permitted with this notice attached

------------------------------

From: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Heheheheh
Date: 16 Sep 1997 08:54:46 GMT
Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA
Reply-To: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin)


In <telecom17.245.9@telecom-digest.org> belfert@citilink.com (Brian Elfert)
wrote: 

> The CCITT no longer exists.  It was replaced by the ITU.

> The ITU is not refusing to standardize 56K.  They are currently
> working on the standard, possibly to be called V.PCM.  Because the ITU
> is a political committee, it does take them quite a while to decide on
> a standard.

I can imagine the biggest political hurdle is probably two major
corporate entities trying to get the standard as close as possible to
their particular already existing nonstandard implementation ...


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From: Fred Goodwin <Fred_Goodwin@tri.sbc.com>
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:18:34 -0500


Eric Ewanco <eje@world.std.com> wrote: 

> In article <telecom17.242.2@telecom-digest.org> Eric Florack
> <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com> writes:

>> Objection: Your use of the word "subsidy" suggests that the money
>> lost to this (How can you lose something you never had?) is being
>> gotten from some other source.  That's simply not true. And yet, the
>> telco's are hardly going broke over this.

> Here I absolutely agree with you: the author employs a subtle shift in
> language.  He refers to price controls as "subsidies".  So simply
> because the tariffs are set low, he declares this a subsidy.  A
> subsidy is when the government forks over money to keep a profitless
> but necessary effort afloat.  It's not when it regulates a monopoly's
> prices.

> Even if we were to grant this, a flaw in his argument is that because
> ISPs don't pay per minute for receiving calls, this amounts to a
> "subsidy".  But this is the same tariff all businesses pay.  If the
> ISPs are subsidized, so are other businesses.  If it really did cost
> the telco some rate per minute to maintain a connection, then they'd
> be losing money on other business calls, too.  But one can hardly
> argue that the LECs would structure their business rates below cost!
> Besides, the model for telco charges is that the one who places the
> call usually pays for it.  If the telcos are losing money, then why do
> they offer flat rate residential service, that makes this possible?
> Wouldn't the responsibility lay more logically with flawed tariff
> structures on the calling end, rather than on the receiving end?

Well, the flat-rate tariffs you refer to were built on a cost-model
that assumed much lower holding times than are seen for ISP traffic.
Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

If not, then there is no point in my making any additional comments,
because you will never be convinced.  OTOH, if you do agree that ISP
calls are of longer duration, and that blockages can and do occur as a
result, then I would submit the ISP (or its customers) should be the
ones the foot the bill for the switch upgrades the telco must make in
order to restore the required grade of service to its other, non-ISP
customers.

Because neither the ISP nor its customers are willing to pay for more
than a flat-rate connection (which, again, assumes a much lower holding
time), then the cost of the telco switch-upgrades necessitated by them
is instead borne by all and that, to me, sounds like a subsidy.


Fred Goodwin CMA SBC-Technology Resources, Inc.    fgoodwin@eden.com
 Opinions are my own, not SBC-TRI                fgoodwin@tri.sbc.com
 9505 Arboretum, 9th Floor          Dallas Cowboys Training Camp Page
 Austin, TX  78759          http://www.eden.com/~fgoodwin/cowboys.htm

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From: fgoldstein@bbn.NO$LUNCHMEAT.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market
Date: 15 Sep 1997 16:25:18 GMT
Organization: GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies


In article <telecom17.247.8@telecom-digest.org>, hicom@oldcolo.com says:

> What is Nathan (and indeed the RBOCs who cry in their beer about
> overloaded switches) going to say when the 4,500 ISPs in the US wake
> up to the fact that they can already, and soon will be able to do ever
> faster and cheaper, drop the use of local loop telco services and
> convert their customers to no-licence digital wireless? Bypassing the
> local wired common carriers entirely?
 ...

> When the shoe is on THAT foot, watch the RBOCs start bitching about
> the 'bypass' technologies, and Internet phone.

> *REAL* competition and open marketplace anyone?

Interesting digression.  Telcos' (specifically, ILECs') collective
market power is eroding under both technological and regulatory
weight.  Alas, the vast majority of dial-up Internet users (especially
the low-volume residential recreational users) are stuck with ILEC
phones as their only option at the present time.  So it is important
to keep that channel available.

But yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus on the horizon.  The catch
is that no one gift works for everyone.

Wireless answers are getting better.  Last winter the FCC gave us a
wonderful gift in the "Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure"
(U-NII) band, allowing up to 4 watts ERP for unlicensed wideband
high-speed data in the 5.7 GHz range. This is too new for equipment to
be available yet but there is huge potential for cellular-style (in
topology, not pricing, but hey those towers look nice) "community
networks".  This goes back to Apple's 1995 petition.  There's also a
2.4 GHz "unlicensed PCS" band medium-speed data; a fair amount of gear
is now available for this.  The 902 MHz "junque band" is still there
but rather a bit noisy for longer-range (non-LAN) uses.

Trouble is, these radio frequencies (the term "microwave" scares off
civilians who think of ovens and thus danger) are somewhat limited to
"line of sight".  If you have a high tower or hilltop surrounded by
the plains of Colorado or Arizona, then you'll do well.  But here in
New England we have rolling hills (tougher to get line-of-sight) and
big trees (foliage fade).  Some areas have serious rain fade problems.
So a wireless solution typically ends up missing substantial areas.
Still worth pursuing though.

Two other gambits stem from the Communications Act of 1996, based on
the status afforded to Competitive LECs.  A CLEC who owns a switch
negotiates a "reciprocal compensation" agreement with the Bell.  This
is sort of like what the UK and now Holland have -- the LEC recipient
of a call is paid to terminate it.  (US IXCs, on the other hand, pay
the LEC at both ends.)  The ILEC and CLEC are peers and pay each
other.  An ISP on a CLEC switch therefore generates "terminating
minutes of use" revenue for the CLEC -- why do you think MFS (CLEC)
bought UUNET (ISP)?  Typical MOU reciprocal compensation rates are
 .3 - .7 cents/minute.  Some ISPs are becoming or are creating
data-oriented CLECs to take advantage of this.

The second approach is "Unbundled Network Elements" (UNEs).  Here,
ILECs must rent CLECs elements of their network (the FCC defined the
list) at cost-based prices.  Local loops, switch ports, and LEC switch
and trunk minutes-of-use are all included as UNEs.  Incoming switch
use is generally free, and ISDN PRI ports and interoffice mileage
under UNE agreements are a fraction of tariff rates.  Same network,
different price.

So the ILECs have less incentive to try to screw ISPs than they did a
year ago, because the ISPs have CLEC alternatives (switched or
switchless).  And radio technology is making the local-loop bottleneck
less critical than it used to be.

I suppose an ideologue can call anything a subsidy, but enough lawyers
have pounded on these rules to make for a very tender cutlet.


Fred R. Goldstein   k1io    fgoldstein"at"bbn.com
GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies, Cambridge MA USA  +1 617 873 3850
Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission.

------------------------------

From: Michael Chance <mc307a@helios.sbc.com>
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:57:18 CDT


Robert L. McMillin <rlm@syseca-us.com> wrote:

> What I have to wonder about here, though, is the idea that monopolies
> are necessarily bad. In the long run they tend to be unsustainable;
> and in any event, anti-trust legislation seems to me to be a
> blunderbuss aimable at any politically convenient target (unions were
> the first such target in the U.S.).

While I could be wrong, I believe that the first anti-trust efforts
were directed at such targets as Rockefeller's Standard Oil, J. Paul
Getty's empire, Carnegie's U. S. Steel, and the big railroads.  Those
were the targets of Pres. Teddy Roosevelt and the Sherman Anti-Trust
Act.

Except for the Grange, the unions didn't get big enough to notice
until the 1920s-1930s.


Michael A. Chance
Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., St. Louis, Missouri
Tel.:  (314) 235-4119      Email: mc307a@helios.sbc.com

------------------------------

From: Robert L. McMillin <rlm@syseca-us.com>
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:03:48 -0700
Organization: Syseca, Inc. -- a Thomson company


Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:

> It would have been nice if Newman got his facts right -- but it's not
> really necessary.

In other words, proponents of market regulation (or outright
nationalization) don't have to worry about the accuracy or
truthfulness of their arguments -- all they have to do is make the
right noises. Down with The Man! Feh.

> While correcting his errors, all you've done is reiterate the need
> for government regulation to ensure that prices bear some relation to
> costs (your comparison with Europe is apt) and to ensure free
> competition. That probably makes Newman satisfied.

What??? Last time I checked, last-mile service is *required by law* to
be provided by goverment-selected monopolies. That bears no resemblance 
at all to "free competition".

Honestly, I'm astonished that Newman continues to get airtime around
here.  He is the Lyndon Larouche of Telecom.


Robert L. McMillin | Not the voice of Syseca, Inc. | rlm@syseca-us.com
           Personal: rlm@helen.surfcty.com | rlm@netcom.com
Put 'rabbit' in your Subject: or my spam-schnauzer will eat your message.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I run his stuff (I keep a little of it
around in stock here) whenever I hear snoring coming from the direction
of your terminal and realize that you must have fallen asleep, or other-
wise gotten bored with the discussions. :)   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Michael Kagalenko <mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: BellSouth Refuses 900 Service to Charities
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 21:40:29 EDT


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:
> I'll grant you there are dishonest IP's. But quite a few are honest
> even if their information or service is essentially useless and they

Now wait a minute. You assume some very interesting meaning of the
word "honest" here. I would be interested to see how you could
possibly consider honest someone who bills for worthless service.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, what you and I may consider to be
worthless in our lives may be a treasure to someone else. For example,
I have absolutely no use for astrology; I have no use for Tarot and
other similar things. But there are people who believe stongly in
these things and there are IPs who legitimatly provide these services
to the believers. Not every IP who operates a religious phone service is
a fraud. Granted, many are. Some IPs sincerely believe they are providing
a great public service at a reasonable cost, and they have documented
call counts to show they are getting inquiries, etc. 

Perhaps I should have qualified that by saying 'worthless as far as I
am concerned ...' Here is another example: let's consider yours truly.
I am an IP, albiet not using the phone or billing via telco. I send
out this Digest every day to a few thousand names on the mailing list
plus to a newsgroup and a few specialized other lists, etc. I maintain
a web site with all the back issues. I say to whoever reads this, 'hey
how about sending a donation every year or so in the suggested amount
of twenty dollars ...' Now, you and some others think my rants mixed
with news and reviews in the telecom scene are really great and you
send me the money as encouragement to continue. On the other hand I
get letters saying 'your stuff is useless; totally worthless to me;
I would not send you five cents if you downloaded the entire archives
to me ...' but they do not (in most cases, although some have) suggest
I am dishonest for publishing 'useless' information. 

That is what I meant. There *are* many -- maybe most -- telephone IPs
who sincerely believe in what they are doing and the service they 
are providing. Perhaps most people would disagree, but the IP did
make good on delivery of information, etc. 

HaHa! I just remembered: I got another notice today asking me to 
cease and desist from sending spam to a site, despite the fact that
the user at that site is on the mailing list. I removed the user's
name from the list and sent him a note cc'd to his admin saying 
'here, you guys work it out; I do not send out spam'. I'll let the
user yell at his admin about it.    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 06:18:02 +0100
From: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BellSouth Refuses 900 Service to Charities
Organization: Clive's laptop (part of Demon Internet Ltd.)


In article <telecom17.236.2@telecom-digest.org>, Bob Holloway <crh1@trsv
r.tr.unisys.com.SpamCan> writes

> 2) there is no easy way, currently, for 900/976 service
> providers to know whether the person calling is authorized to use the
> phone that he/she is calling from.  Obviously, they would like to
> assume that they do -- but this isn't always the case.  I see this as
> particularly a problem that prevents sex lines from screening their
> calls to make sure they are from adults

In the UK these lines are on 0898 numbers. Before these numbers can be
dialed, the subscriber has to obtain a specific PIN from BT. No PIN, no
calls, no charges. Problem solved.


Clive D.W. Feather    | Director of Software Development  | Home email:
Tel: +44 181 371 1138 | Demon Internet Ltd.               | <clive@davros.org>
Fax: +44 181 371 1037 | <clive@demon.net>                 |
Written on my laptop; please observe the Reply-To address |

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:33:28 -0400
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: California's 209 NPA Split and MedicAlert


In article <telecom17.248.1@telecom-digest.org>, jay@west.net (Jay
Hennigan) writes:

> You mean someone actually BOUGHT the "Help, I've fallen and I can't
> get up" gadget?  And it costs them a long distance call every time the
> neighbor opens his garage door?  And they're still working?  Somehow,
> these have always seemed to be in the same realm as Chia pets and the
> Clapper.

You obviously are neither a senior citizen nor have a parent who's
one.  My late father, who died July 1 in his 82nd year, subscribed to
a service provided by a local ambulance company; and one of the first
things I did on arriving at his apartment was to see if he was wearing
the pendant or find it and lecture him if he wasn't.  The "base station" 
was effectively a radio-controlled speaker phone which autodialed the
ambulance dispatch center on activation.  Its pickup was sensitive
enough to hear him anywhere in the apartment; and I got a call if he
didn't respond when the dispatcher came on the line to ask him what
was wrong.  (Having more than one line, they could keep his open while
calling me on another one.)

Getting back on-topic for this discussion, I don't see why the base
units can't be programmed (or reprogrammed) to dial *any* number,
including changing the area code, if necessary.


Bruce Wilson

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <mds@access.digex.net>
Subject: Re: Nextel Cellular?
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 09:30:23 -0400
Organization: DIGEX, Inc.
Reply-To: Michael D. Sullivan <mds@access.digex.net>


On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 19:27:44 GMT, Ben Parker wrote:

> All the discussion in the Digest here recently on CDMA/TDMA/GSM and
> various cellular and PCS carriers and such has been very interesting
> and informative.  However, nobody has mentioned Nextel in this
> discussion yet and I'd like opinions about there place in the overall
> scheme.

> Nextel seems to offer a nationwide digital/analog network (TDMA) that
> is free of roaming charges.  Additionally their phone sets offer text
> paging functions and also have a unique 2-way radio capability that
> allows you to connect to specific handsets anywhere in their network
> for much less than usual rates.  In essence this is long-distance
> radio, using their cellular (850mhz) network.  Seems like it delivers
> today what most PCS promises for tomorrow.  Too good to be true?

I haven't used Nextel, but they don't use the cellular or PCS bands;
they use the 800 MHz Specialized Mobile Radio (SMR) bands, which are
in the same vicinity as cellular.  Their phones cannot roam on
cellular systems; just on Nextel's own network (and potentially on
other enhanced SMR networks using compatible technology, if and when
there are such systems).  Before Nextel, SMR frequencies were used for
high-power, area-wide dispatch communications; Nextel bought up lots
of these systems and "cellularized" the system architecture (lots of
lower-power transmitters in a cellular grid).


Michael D. Sullivan, Bethesda, Maryland, USA
mds@access.digex.net, avogadro@well.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:33:01 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Internet Infoscavanger" (Periodical)


PRININSC.RVW   970319
 
"Internet InfoScavenger", Cathy D. Dupre, 1996+, 1088-0666, U$149/yr
%A   Cathy D. Dupre
%C   MSC473, 1153 Bergen Parkway, Suite M, Evergreen, CO   80439-9501
%D   1996+, monthly
%G   ISSN 1088-0666
%I   InfoScavenger Communications, Inc.
%O   U$149/yr 303-674-2794 800-449-8533 fax: 303-674-4184 subs@infoscavenger
%T   "Internet InfoScavenger"
 
This is an eight page (letter size) periodical published monthly or
possibly ten times per year.  The slogan is "Sites and insights for
growing businesses."
 
The contents of the four sample issues I received deal with various
issues of using the Internet as a business resource.  There are
articles on market research services, copyright, and business models,
but the primary emphasis is on advertising and marketing.  In fact,
about half of the total material in what I received dealt specifically
with publicizing your Web site.  URLs (Uniform Resource Locators) are
liberally sprinkled through the articles, and the last page of each
issue lists all the Web sites again.
 
Despite, or perhaps because of, the limited range of topics, the
advice is practical and generally sound.  An article on ensuring that
your site gets frequently "hit" by search engines also notes that the
tactics may be interpreted as "spamdexing", and thus may backfire.
 
For those who are new to the Web, and primarily interested in using it
as an advertising tool, there is a lot of good advice.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   PRININSC.RVW   970319


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
              Ceterum censeo CNA Financial Services delendam esse
  Please note the Peterson story - http://www.netmind.com/~padgett/trial.htm

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 17 Sep 97 13:57 EDT
From: Perillo@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Robert J. Perillo)
Subject: AT&T Database Glitch Caused '800' Phone Outage


    AT&T's network of toll-free numbers (800) crashed Wednesday
03-Sep-1997 and thousands of callers were greeted with busy signals
between 12:30pm and 2:00pm EDT. The network outage was the company's
worst overall outage since Jan. 15, 1990.  AT&T blamed human error of
a technician for the crash.  AT&T Corp. stated that it would
compensate customer's for their toll-free service disruption. Many
customers have contracts that entitle them for compensation.

    The problem was caused when a technician uploaded to AT&T's
Signaling System # 7 (SS7) an incorrect set of translations for the
routing of '800' phone calls. Calls using the new '888' prefix were
not affected. '800/888' numbers have become increasingly popular for
remote access and call centers, and may account for more than 40% of
the volume on AT&T's domestic network.

   Loading incorrect Routing and Translation tables have been the
cause of many recent network outages. These tables should be tested
off-line, and automatically checked for format problems by a
pre-processor. Preferably an automated "knowledge engineering" system
should be used to create these tables.

    Since many of these problems have been blamed on a "technician's
human error", increased training is in order.  Before the changed
Tables/Instructions are uploaded into the system, there should be a
mandatory Quality Assurance review.

[References: AP, "AT&T to Compensate Customers", 04-Sep-1997.
             Network World, "Database glitch KOs 800 lines", 08-Sep-1997. ]


Robert J. Perillo, CCP, CNE             Perillo@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Principal Telecommunications Engineer               Richmond, VA

------------------------------

From: Jon Gilbert <jong@ao.net>
Subject: Comprehensive International Country/City Code Listing
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:42:14 -0400
Organization: Access Orlando (407) 895-1200
Reply-To: jong@ao.net


I've seen the archives at 
http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/country.codes/,

and the Americom CGI at 
http://www.inconnect.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/americom/aclookup, and 

I'm despaired:

    Is there a comprehensive listing in a singular format of
internation country and city codes available?  I'm planning on writing
an automatic dialling script, and I'm going to need something along
those lines.  And rather than try to format all the data at massis
into a standard format, I'm hoping that someone already has done this.
Have they?


jong out.

Jonathan Gilbert
jong@ao.net

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <jcropper@lincs.net>
Subject: Bell Atlantic Drops the Ball on New NPA
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:15:05 -0400


Bell Atlantic is consistent, if not accurate.

Upon trying to reach a client in the new 931 area code today, I was
stopped at the 8th digit by a BA circuit in northern New Jersey with
the standard canned message "it is not necessary to dial a 1 before
calling this number".

Upon calling Bell Atlantic repair, rep after rep repeated the company
line: "It is a problem with your long-distance carrier, not us". I
repeatedly tried to explain that THIER switch was not even letting me
through, because 931 was not entered as an NPA, but apparently they
had already made their mind up on the issue, and I was just "some dumb
customer who didn't know better".

Having completed a call TO THE SAME NUMBER earlier in the day using my
LD carrier's calling card, I know that BA is pretty much full of S.

This is the second incident in two days that BA has blamed on the LD
carrier, and both were problems on THEIR end. In a few months when
competition is in full swing, I will be among the first in line to
switch local dialtone providers if BA's service department continues
with their 'limited culpability'.


John Cropper                       voice: 888.76.LINCS 
LINCS                              fax:   888.57.LINCS 
P.O. Box 277                       mailto:jcropper@lincs.net
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277         ICQ:   2670887

FREE areacode info: http://www.lincs.net/areacode/
$17.95 internet:    http://www.lincs.net/internet/dialupacs.html



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I had the very same problem a few
years ago with a new exchange which opened in 414; Illinois Bell
refused to listen to anything I had to say. Finally after a couple
days of trying to tell them my LD carrier worked just fine, I
had to go way over their head and talk to a guy from AT&T based
in Kansas City. I told him about it and how IBT/Ameritech would
not even try to correct it. His response was, "they'll listen to
me and do as I say ..." and sure enough, a couple days later I 
was able to get through just fine. I guess Ameritech had to
completely reload the tables or something. So John, perhaps a
reader here who carries some weight will get in touch with you
for particulars and then call someone at BA and get them to
straighten it out.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joe Jensen <jjensen@cablesystem.com>
Subject: ISP Termination Charges
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:40:08 -0400


In a recent TELECOM Digest article, Fred Goldstein wrote:

> Two other gambits stem from the Communications Act of 1996, based on
> the status afforded to Competitive LECs.  A CLEC who owns a switch
> negotiates a "reciprocal compensation" agreement with the Bell.

> This is sort of like what the UK and now Holland have -- the LEC
> recipient of a call is paid to terminate it.  (US IXCs, on the other
> hand, pay the LEC at both ends.)  The ILEC and CLEC are peers and pay
> each other.  An ISP on a CLEC switch therefore generates "terminating
> minutes of use" revenue for the CLEC -- why do you think MFS (CLEC)
> bought UUNET (ISP)?  Typical MOU reciprocal compensation rates are .3
> - .7 cents/minute.  Some ISPs are becoming or are creating
> data-oriented CLECs to take advantage of this.

	This fact has not gone unnoticed by the RBOCS, based on the
inequity between outgoing termination compensation and incoming
compensation. In at least one region, the RBOC has filed a complaint
and placed the termination compensation associated with ISP traffic
that would have gone to the CLEC in escrow pending resolution. Their
argument is that internet access is interlata and therefore not
subject to termination charges. This issue is still being debated at
the national and state level.


Joe Jensen

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 01:15:26 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Peter Neumann to Receive Social Responsibility Award
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


   Begin forwarded message:

   Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 00:06:33 -0700
   From: Susan Evoy <sevoy@Sunnyside.COM>
   Subject: Peter Neumann to Receive Social Responsibility Award


September 16, 1997
For Immediate Release

Contact:
Duff Axsom
650-322-3778


Peter Neumann To Receive Social Responsibility Award

Palo Alto, CA. - Peter Neumann, a national authority on computer
security and risk, will be given the prestigious Norbert Wiener Award
for excellence in promoting socially responsible use of computing
technology. Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR)
annually honors an outstanding leader for personal dedication to
increasing the public awareness of the social and political
consequences of the uses of technology. Dr. Neumann will be honored
October 4, 1997 at the CPSR Annual Conference in Berkeley, CA.

"Peter Neumann is a remarkable scholar and social activist", said CPSR
president Aki Namioka. "His contributions to our knowledge about the
risks and reliability of computing technology are widely published in
scientific journals, but even more importantly he initiated the public
dialogue through open discussion in one of the most widely read
computer online USENET newsgroups, RISKS Forum (comp.risks)."

"Dr. Neumann is a pioneer in linking the risks in using technology to
our most cherished rights to privacy and our need for a secure
environment", stated Namioka. "CPSR is extremely proud to present the
Norbert Wiener Award for 1997 to a truly important citizen, an
activist and a distinguished scientist. He was one of the early
members of CPSR and helped bring public awareness to the major flaws
in the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) during the Reagan
administration."

The Norbert Wiener Award was established in 1987 by CPSR in memory of
the originator of the field of cybernetics. Norbert Wiener was among
the first to examine the social and political consequences of
computing technology.  His book, The Human Use of Human Beings,
pointed out the dangers of nuclear war and the role of scientists in
weapons development in 1947, shortly after Hiroshima.

Dr. Neumann's research on the implications of computing gained wide
recognition when he created the ACM SIGSOFT Software Engineering Notes
in 1976 with considerable attention to risks issues, and then created
the online Risks Forum in 1985. He was also co-author of the National
Research Council (NRC) report, Computers at Risk in 1990.

Dr. Neumann is the author of Computer-Related Risks, published in 1995
by The Association for Computing (ACM) and Addison-Wesley Publishing
Company.  Computer-Related Risks summarizes many real events involving
computer technologies and the people who depend on those technologies,
with widely ranging causes and effects. It considers problems
attributable to hardware, software, people, and natural causes. More
information about this book can be found at:
http://heg-school.awl.com/cseng/authors/neumann/crrisks/crrisks.html

His expertise in the issues of privacy and cryptography are
demonstrated in his role as an author of the seminal study,
Cryptography's Role in Securing the Information Society for the
NRC. He served on the Expert Panel of the U.S. House of
Representatives' Judiciary Subcommittee on Civil and Constitutional
Rights. He is a member of the U.S. General Accounting Office's newly
formed Executive Council on Information Management and Technology.

Over five decades, Dr. Neumann, Principal Scientist at SRI
International in Menlo Park, CA, has been concerned with critical
computer and communications systems issues such as security,
reliability and human safety. He holds a Ph.D. from Harvard and was a
Fulbright scholar at the Technicsche Hochschule, Darmstadt,
Germany. He has worked in the computer field since 1953. He is a
Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the
Association for Computing Machinery (ACM), and the Institute of
Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). He was the recipient of
the Electronic Frontier Foundation Pioneer Award in 1996 and the ACM
SIGSOFT Distinguished Service Award in 1997.

More information and access to many of his writings may be obtained at
his webpage, http://www.CSL.sri.com/neumann.html.

CPSR was founded in 1981 by computer professionals in the Silicon
Valley concerned about the use of computers in nuclear weapons
systems. CPSR has grown into a national public interest alliance of
computer scientists, information technology professionals, and others
concerned about the critical choices facing society in the
applications of computer related technology. CPSR has 22 Chapters
throughout the United States and is based in Palo Alto, CA.

                     ----------------

Duff Axsom,  Executive Director
http://www.cpsr.org/home.html
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility
P.O. Box 717, Palo Alto, CA  94302
Phone: (650) 322-3778  Fax: (650) 322-4748  Email: duff@cpsr.org

------------------------------

From: Stuart McRae <Stuart_McRae@lotus.ssw.com>
Subject: Dial Access Unit For Value Added Fax Sservers
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:27:37 -0400


I'm looking for information on redialer units to provide access to
value added fax services.

We can route faxes over the intranet if a fax user dials the server
and then DTMF's the recipient, but end user's aren't motivated to
figure out how to do this (and some fax machines make it real
hard). I've heard people talk about auto-dialers that can re-route
calls like this to a different number, and DTMF the number dialed, but
have never come across such a unit. I guess it would also need to
insert a DTMF prefix to identify the originating machine for routing
non-delivery notifications (and to authorize access).

Can anyone provide a lead on how I find such a unit? I've never seen
one in a catalogue, but I'd have thought that with more Internet Fax
services being advertised there'd be a growing demand. I'm interested
in availability in the US and also Europe and other countries.

For users at the same site as the fax servers, it has been suggested
that PABXs might support this function. Is this reasonable?


Thanks,

Stuart McRae

------------------------------

From: goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:24 EDT
Subject: NC's Three New NPA Numerics Announced


Today's issue of Raleigh's newspaper _The_News_&_Observer_ says that
Bellcore has announced the numeric values of the three new North
Carolina area codes which are to be split off from the existing three
NPAs over the forthcoming year.  The story also listed most (but not
all) of the dates associated with the splits.  The new codes are:

336, which will cover the northern half of the current 910 NPA, and
which will encompass the "Piedmont Triad" of Greensboro, Winston-Salem
and High Point, among other areas.  This is the NC code in greatest
jeopardy, and so it will take effect very soon (12/15).  Unfortunately,
there was no mention of the date on which permissive dialing will end.

252, which will cover the eastern three-quarters of the current 919
NPA, including cities such as Greenville and Rocky Mount and most of
eastern North Carolina including the Outer Banks.  This NPA takes
effect on 3/22/98, and becomes mandatory 6 months later on 9/21.

828, which will cover the western two-thirds of the current 704 NPA,
including Asheville and most of NC's western mountain region.  This
NPA is *tentatively* schedule to take effect on 6/1/98 and become
mandatory on 10/5.

For more details, see the N&O story online at
<http://www.news-observer.com/daily/1997/09/17/biz01.html>.


Bob Goudreau			Data General Corporation
goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com		62 Alexander Drive	
+1 919 248 6231			Research Triangle Park, NC  27709, USA

------------------------------

Subject: Multiple Subscriptions on Ericsson (Sprint Spectrum) PCS Phone?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:46:46 EDT
From: spock@blacksun.adelphi.edu (Dr. Sven Dietrich)


Hopefully someone can clarify this one for me, or point me in
the right direction:

I recently bought an Ericsson CH-337 PCS 1900 phone, with a
subscription to Sprint Spectrum PCS. What prevents me from getting
another smartcard (SIM chip) from, say, Omnipoint (NY) and using it
with that in NY rather than roaming with Sprint?  I mean, it's the
_same_ model as the one being sold by Omnipoint, no? It's the same GSM
technology, right?

I've heard different stories, so if someone could explain the
technical details or direct me to a FAQ, I'd be grateful.

Please reply by e-mail, if possible.


Dr. Sven Dietrich            | Internet: spock@abraxas.adelphi.edu (MIME/PGP)
Dept of Math & CS            |    Voice: +1-516-877-4488 Fax: +1-516-877-3545
Adelphi University, New York |          http://www.adelphi.edu/~spock 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:42:49 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
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------------------------------

From: Michael Gutteridge <mikeg@spam.onyx.com>
Subject: NYNEX Voicemail Product?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:31:14 -0700
Organization: ONYX Software Corp.
Reply-To: mikeg@spam.onyx.com


Hiya

I want to use NYNEX's Voicemail product in the Stoneham area
(617-438-xxxx).  Basically, there aren't enough people in our remote
office there to really justify a key/integrated system, but we'd like
to retain some "real" voicemail features.  Most notably, we'd like to
have the ability for people who reach a subscriber's mail box to
transfer out to an operator (zero destination, I think it's called on
the Meridian?)

However, to get this feature, we are told that we need to go with what
NYNEX calls "Type III" service, at the rate of $150 *per line*.  For
the 25 (minimum) lines we'd have to get, that's far too much money.  I
cannot believe this is accurate.

I guess I'm suspicious because the NYNEX rep keeps bringing out a
salesman hawking the Intertel switch/voicemail system.  And, while he
will talk with the end-users, he won't call me (responsible for
telecom, thankyouverymuch.)

Any users of NYNEX voicemail out there?  Any hints on a way to do this
without buying a switch?


Thanks,

Michael Gutteridge		ONYX Software Corp.
System Administrator		http://www.onyx.com
mikeg @ onyx.com
425.519.4118 			(remove spam in the "from" address)

------------------------------

End of TELECOM Digest V17 #253
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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 18 Sep 97 22:33:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 254

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market (Brad Allen)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? (Gary Novosielski)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (John Stanley)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (Jay R. Ashworth)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (Greg Hennessy)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (David Richards)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (Rahul Dhesi)
    Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes (Bill Sohl)
    The Medic-Alert Brouhaha (Joey Lindstrom)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bradley Ward Allen <ulmo@Q.Net>
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy of ISP Welfare and Myth of Internet Free Market
Date: 18 Sep 1997 16:31:32 -0400
Organization: Q


>      The ISPs along with AT&T, Apple Computer, Netscape, Microsoft,
> Compaq Computer, IBM, and a host of other computer companies demanded
> and won continued FCC intervention to prevent market pricing on local
> telephone company services used by ISPs to reach their customers in
> the first place.  Since the initial breakup of AT&T back in 1983, the
> FCC has exempted Internet providers from paying the same kind of
> per-minute access charges to local phone companies that long distance
> companies have to pay to connect their customers.  This has allowed
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Internet providers to pay the flat business rate to local phone
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> companies that ordinary local business customers pay -- which in turn
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> has allowed them to offer flat-rate service for the Internet to their
> customers.

I take it you consider the backbones free?

When's the last time peering at an interexchange point was free?

When's the last time leasing fiber under the sea was free?

When's the last time paying "settlement" fees to large ISPs that have
good backbones from hither to fro was free?

When's the last time that setting up cooperatives to make it more cost
effective to deal with these settlement issues was free?

Hey, btw, when's the last time that leasing a line from the local
"previous"-monopoly "baby bell" was free?

Oh, let's not forget the free connection that MAE charges you to
connected to their POP.

Hey, those free routers are really useful too.

Oh, the free labor and free service contracts for all of these
components is really a nice perk.

Uh hum.

Oh, I almost forgot --- and those large energy companies going through
their own industry shakeup, hey, they love giving ISPs power for free,
too, when used for the backbone!

Radio equipment is free too.  And setting it up!  Wonderful price.

Not to mention all the free real estate space that ISPs use.  Oh --
I'm talking about the backbone connections the ISP has here, which you
probably don't think exists, so it must be free.

You betch'a.

What you are forgetting is that this "flat rate" you speak of is
actually far above a reasonable profit margin for the local phone
company, since the connections are going through local networks with
high capacity, and furthermore the biggest blunder in your argument is
that the backbone that the ISPs use does NOT EXIST!  Else, they'd be
called "Service Providers", not "Internet Service Providers".  The
only problems that may come about due to overcongestion and cost of
providing service are the stupid engineering and layout of the system
by the local phone companies to not take advantage of the simple
efficiencies involved.

Take my connection.  I have a 24 hour a day, 365 day a year wire from
my home to my phone company, and there is another similar connection
between them and my ISP.  If the phone company is worried about
congestion between their own switch and their own switch, which are in
the same building, then they have a big problem.

I'm just using the connection that's already there from me to the
switch and from the switch to the ISP.  The buildings' switch's being
full is mere bullshit; they cost less than the wire that is already 24
365.

In the case of interswitch congestion, the local bell companies
haven't exactly made a point of tarrifing a seperate charge for that
problem; instead they install enormous capacity.  If they complain,
it's because they designed the charge system in such a way as to
complain.  I consider it fair to ask ISPs to charge slightly higher
rates for interswitch links, if they are also given reasonable rates
to interconnect with the various other switches as well using their
own communications network.  Yes, that might cost the ISPs a little
bit more, but considering the business, feature and flexibility
possibilities, not by much, if any, will there be an end charge on
that; the worst problem with this scenereo is that the local phone
company previous-monopoly would now have a bigger network as their
competition.

The local phone companies are involved in anticompetitive measures,
and regardless of whether they are paying you, you are definately a
part of their scheme to obtain those ends.

You are the hyprocrite.

Wait, I seem to have missed something:

>      Worse than the actual costs of the upgrades for ISPs is the fact
> that those investments are being made in traditional analog voice
> phone lines and switches, instead of the phone system moving the ISP
> phone traffic onto high-speed digital switching systems right at
> customers homes, an approach that would be more efficient and create
> the basis for upgrading all data traffic.  Most of the Baby Bells
> began offering such high-speed digital services for ISPs in 1997, but
                                                              ^^^^
> the Internet providers have little incentive to pay for such services
> as long as they can convince the FCC to allow them to use the local
> phone lines like ordinary business users.

Wow!  And you're complaining about the way things were before 1997!
Good for you!

Of course, there is SO much time between 1997 and this year -- all
that time to actually find out about these wonderful services you're
talking about (what are they, anyway?  DSP?  Nope.  Cable Modem?
Nope.  I can't get either, here.  I'm in the middle of Manhattan!)

We're talking about really fast companies, too -- companies, that when
the customers have a large need for things back in the 1970s and
1980s, they are so fast to come to market that they have something in
2000s that answers those requests!!!!  Well, at least we wish it were
that good ... I *hope* they'll have *something* in my lifetime that is
faster than ISDN.

BTW, I'm thinking of augmenting my network with "Cellular Vision" here
in the NYC area, and jettisoning that awful Time Warner Cable that I
have.  I'm sure that puts you up in arms -- you'd probably want a "air
tax" that gets paid directly to Bell Atlantic, because Cellular Vision
"threatens their monopoly".

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:59:03 -0400
From: Gary Novosielski <gpn.NOSPAM@techie.com>
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy?


In TELECOM Digest V17 #252, Fred Goodwin wrote:

> ... I would submit the ISP (or its customers) should be the
> ones the foot the bill for the switch upgrades the telco must make in
> order to restore the required grade of service to its other, non-ISP
> customers. ... [T]he cost of the telco switch-upgrades necessitated by them
> is instead borne by all and that, to me, sounds like a subsidy.

Well, there's a drug store about two blocks from here.  When I need a
newspaper, I walk down there and buy it.  There's no need to get in
the car since it's so close.  But I notice that a lot of people do
drive to that same store.  In fact, in the last year, since they've
started carrying milk and bread, auto traffic has increased -- so much
so that they've been forced to add a whole new section to the parking
lot.

It occurred to me that this must be pretty expensive, and that I
wasn't getting any use out of it, because I always walk to the store.
In fact prices are a little higher than I remember, and I'm sure this
has something to do with it.  The cost of that parking lot is being
borne by all the customers, not just those who use it.

I got mad, and asked the lady behind the counter how come she was
forcing me to give a subsidy to all the non-pedestrian customers of
the store, and I demanded a lower price for my newspaper than the guy
behind me in line, who had driven in from the street just as I
arrived.

She just looked at me funny.  (I think she's a communist.)

------------------------------

From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:58:15 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University


In article <telecom17.252.3@telecom-digest.org>, Fred Goodwin
<Fred_Goodwin@tri.sbc.com> wrote:

> Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
> shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

Yes. Anyone who has a teenager knows this. Anyone who has a computer
at home knows this. Anyone who has called any company with any sort of
automated telephone system knows this.

The typical data call I make lasts three minutes. How long does Mrs.
Smith spend on the phone to her Mom?

I have been paying a premium for a line that I almost never use just
so I can use anther line for my computer. I had to pay extra for my
"voice" line so I could pay more for unlimited calling on my "data"
line. I have been paying this "subsidy" that the telcos are whining
about, but I don't see them rushing to refund my money.

> result, then I would submit the ISP (or its customers) should be the
> ones the foot the bill for the switch upgrades the telco must make in
> order to restore the required grade of service to its other, non-ISP
> customers.

I would submit that the telco should have used the premium I have been
paying for seven years for unlimited calling on my voice line to keep
its services up to par. They demanded that I get a more expensive line
than I needed for a line I make almost no calls on, just because I had
one line that was unlimited calling. If they didn't mean to charge me
more, then I want my money back.

> Because neither the ISP nor its customers are willing to pay for more
> than a flat-rate connection 

The ISP isn't making the call, it shouldn't have to pay more than any
other business does. I am already paying more for flat-rate than I
have use, so why should I pay more?

------------------------------

From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: 17 Sep 1997 15:52:08 GMT
Organization: Ashworth & Associates


On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:18:34 -0500, Fred Goodwin
<Fred_Goodwin@tri.sbc.com> wrote:

> Well, the flat-rate tariffs you refer to were built on a cost-model
> that assumed much lower holding times than are seen for ISP traffic.
> Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
> shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

Yes, damnit.

You obviously don't have teenagers.

:-)

> If not, then there is no point in my making any additional comments,
> because you will never be convinced.  OTOH, if you do agree that ISP
> calls are of longer duration, and that blockages can and do occur as a
> result, then I would submit the ISP (or its customers) should be the
> ones the foot the bill for the switch upgrades the telco must make in
> order to restore the required grade of service to its other, non-ISP
> customers.

Nope.  Poor foresight on the part of a regulated monopoly utility is
_not_ the fault of the customers.

> Because neither the ISP nor its customers are willing to pay for more
> than a flat-rate connection (which, again, assumes a much lower holding
> time), then the cost of the telco switch-upgrades necessitated by them
> is instead borne by all and that, to me, sounds like a subsidy.

You might, potentially, use that word, were it not for the fact that
the RBOC's themselves are one of the beneficiaries, they being in the
ISP business, too.

But the sweepingly fast advance of wireless is going to make this a
moot point shortly, I suspect, anyway -- as I noted in a posting a
couple days back.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth       High Technology Systems Consulting              Ashworth
Designer            Linux: Where Do You Want To Fly Today?        & Associates
ka1fjx/4              Crack.  It does a body good.             +1 813 790 7592
jra@baylink.com          http://rc5.distributed.net                  NIC: jra3

------------------------------

From: gsh@clark.net (Greg Hennessy)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: 17 Sep 1997 15:00:24 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA


> Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
> shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

Yes. I deny that, since calls to an ISP are residential calls. This is
simply trying to ghettoize internet users and suck more money out of
them.

------------------------------

From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: 17 Sep 1997 11:56:29 GMT
Organization: Ripco Internet, Chicago


In article <telecom17.252.3@telecom-digest.org>, Fred Goodwin
<Fred_Goodwin@tri.sbc.com> wrote:

> Well, the flat-rate tariffs you refer to were built on a cost-model
> that assumed much lower holding times than are seen for ISP traffic.
> Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
> shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

Yes, calls to ISPs are longer than 'typical' residential calls.  But
so are calls to BBS systems -- multiline BBS systems date back at least
15 years (Ripco does, anyway); they're just more popular now. And
there have been rumors of an 'FCC mandated BBS tax' for almost that
long.

The problems of congestion and switch capacity upgrades are the result
of telco monopolies not being prepared for a sudden shift in consumer
calling habits, and chosing a rate structure that encourages certain
behavior.

Strange how I don't see any complaints about congestion in the Chicago
area -- only in the last couple of months (coincidentally just after the
launch of Ameritech's own internet service) has my ISP received _ANY_
customer gripes about 'fast busy' or 'The number you have dialed...'
intercept messages.

> If not, then there is no point in my making any additional comments,
> because you will never be convinced.  OTOH, if you do agree that ISP
> calls are of longer duration, and that blockages can and do occur as a
> result, then I would submit the ISP (or its customers) should be the
> ones the foot the bill for the switch upgrades the telco must make in
> order to restore the required grade of service to its other, non-ISP
> customers.

Bullshit.  The telco proposes their own tariff, they chose to make
packet-switched data service so expensive as to be out of the reach of
the end user.  because I suddenly order, use, and PAY FOR more
circuits than they anticipated is a problem, but the telco dug their
own grave by how they set up the rates.

> Because neither the ISP nor its customers are willing to pay for more
> than a flat-rate connection (which, again, assumes a much lower holding
> time), then the cost of the telco switch-upgrades necessitated by them
> is instead borne by all and that, to me, sounds like a subsidy.

The local telephone _monopoly_ chose to set rates so as to discourage
use of X.25 (packet-switched) services and encourage long holding
times by endorsing flat-rate local calling.

Compare this to Europe, where X.25 is in widespread use and untimed
calls are generally an unheard of luxury.

------------------------------

From: c.c.eiftj@15.usenet.us.com (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: 17 Sep 1997 03:38:41 GMT
Organization: a2i network


In <telecom17.252.3@telecom-digest.org> Fred Goodwin
<Fred_Goodwin@tri.sbc.com> writes:

> Well, the flat-rate tariffs you refer to were built on a cost-model
> that assumed much lower holding times than are seen for ISP traffic.
> Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
> shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

Um, the situation is much simpler than that.  Short calls are
typically shorter than long calls.

Let me repeat that:

     Long calls are longer.
     Short calls are shorter.

> OTOH, if you do agree that ISP calls are of longer duration, and that
> blockages can and do occur as a result, then I would submit the ISP (or
> its customers) should be the ones the foot the bill for the switch
> upgrades the telco must make in order to restore the required grade of
> service to its other, non-ISP customers.

You want heavier users to pay more.  Then why not simply make heavier
users pay more?  I don't understand why it must be based on whether or
not they call an ISP.  I know people who are on the phone for hours
and hours talking to their friends -- should they or should they not
pay more?  I know people who call their ISP for five minutes a day, max.
Should they or should they not pay less?

I really don't understand why people try to make it so complicated.
If long calls are the problem, penalize the long calls.

Let me ask you something, hypothetically.  Suppose people of a certain
race (call it Yellow, or Green, or Black, or whatever) were observed
to make longer calls on the average than people of other races.  What
would your preference be, if you had to choose one of these two
possibilities?

   - Charge all people of that race more for phone calls, regardless
     of the length of their call;

   - Charge people based on the length of their call regardless of
     their race.

Explain and justify your choice.


Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@spams.r.us.com>

------------------------------

From: billsohl@planet.net (Bill Sohl)
Subject: Re: ISP Subsidy? Yes
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 04:12:30 GMT
Organization: BL Enterprises


Fred Goodwin <Fred_Goodwin@tri.sbc.com> wrote:

> Well, the flat-rate tariffs you refer to were built on a cost-model
> that assumed much lower holding times than are seen for ISP traffic.
> Does anyone in this group deny that residential calls are typically of
> shorter duration than calls to an ISP?

Not in a household like mine with three kids.

> If not, then there is no point in my making any additional comments,
> because you will never be convinced.  OTOH, if you do agree that ISP
> calls are of longer duration, and that blockages can and do occur as a
> result, then I would submit the ISP (or its customers) should be the
> ones the foot the bill for the switch upgrades the telco must make in
> order to restore the required grade of service to its other, non-ISP
> customers.

Thousands of business lines generate huge minutes of use on a flat
rate basis yet you wish to ignore those users and only focus on ISPs
because they have tilted the model previously used.  How do you
identify ONLY the cost causing lines since they are only incoming
calls terminating on them?

> Because neither the ISP nor its customers are willing to pay for more
> than a flat-rate connection (which, again, assumes a much lower holding
> time), then the cost of the telco switch-upgrades necessitated by them
> is instead borne by all and that, to me, sounds like a subsidy.

Yet most ISPs busiest times are outside the normal peak hour periods.
It seems there's more trouble with ISPs that don't provide enough
lines (thus causing busy conditions to their users) than the network
being short of switch capacity or trunking.


Bill Sohl (K2UNK)               billsohl@planet.net
Internet & Telecommunications Consultant/Instructor
Budd Lake, New Jersey

------------------------------

From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 97 03:07:20 -0700
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com>
Subject: The Medic-Alert Brouhaha


Pardon me, a relative neophyte, for butting in here ... but it seems
to me like we're going to see more problems like this Medic-Alert
thing happening with every new area code split that comes down the
line.  It's another argument in favour of overlays, but I won't get
into that - I'll just say that Mark Cuccia is God and that's that. :-)

But I think it's completely AMAZING that the CPUC decided to change
its mind and grant one area the right to keep the old area code while
switching the other, more-populated, area to the new NPA, simply
because Medic-Alert *HAD* to keep it's old phone number.

What's wrong with simply going ahead with the split as originally
intended, and then REPLICATING THE MEDIC-ALERT PHONE NUMBER IN BOTH
CODES until such time as Medic-Alert can, over time, ensure that all
the existing Medic-Alert bracelets are replaced?  Or indefinitely if
we want to save some expense?  It's one phone number.  It's done with
toll-free numbers all the time for FAR less needful reasons ... am I
missing something here???

Just a thought.

  From:  The Desk Of Joey Lindstrom  +1 403-606-3853
  EMAIL: joey@lindstrom.com  numanoid@ab.imag.net  lindstrj@cadvision.com
  WEBB:  http://www.ab.imag.net/worldwidewebb/

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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 21 Sep 97 13:58:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 255

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    SMS Changes 888 Release Policy AGAIN (Judith Oppenheimer)
    800/888 Problem - Suggestions Welcome (Jay R. Ashworth)
    Bell Atlantic Alpha Messaging: Followup (Douglas Reuben)
    Book Review: "HTML 3.2 Quick Reference" (Rob Slade)
    AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Chris Mathews)

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 11:18:24 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: SMS Changes 888 Release Policy AGAIN


For years the RespOrgs say all numbers are the same, no one has any
rights or interests in numbers, and the FCC buys into this and makes
it law.

During which time, however, the FCC facilitates the RespOrgs setting
aside "valuable" 888's matching "valuable" 800's in which their
customers have an "interest."

Then the customers who've set aside their 888's want them, so the FCC
says they can have them, *if* they assert no interest in them.  (Who
else besides me has said "huh?" yet.)

So this goes on for a whole YEAR, until the FCC issues its guideline
codification aka the April Report and Order, at which time the SMS says,
a ha!, RespOrgs have been abusing the release process to grab 'their'
numbers in violation of the FCC edict that they have no 'interest' in
them.  

(I gotta tell you here, when the release of 888 set-asides was first
ordered by the FCC in June '96, an SMS insider who shall remain
anonymous told me it was because the FCC was getting pressure from 800
subscribers who wanted THEIR numbers.)

But I transgress.  So now, June 1997, the SMS changes policy, batches
888 set-aside releases and tells everyone what numbers are coming out,
so that everyone has an equal chance to grab these "valuable" 888's, per
the FCC's first-come-first-serve scenario.

Except now the RespOrgs are complaining that other RespOrgs are
"stealing" numbers out of 888 release that "belong" to their
customers.  (There's sort of an "honor system" among 'real' RespOrgs:
that you don't touch "my" numbers, ie that 'belong' to my customers,
and I don't touch yours.  And if you do by mistake, of course, we'll
settle it among ourselves.  Not that we're brokering or dealing in
numbers, of course.)

Now remember:  the 'my numbers' and 'belong' here refer to 888 numbers
in the set-aside pool that have been assigned to no one, and according
to the FCC, belong to no one.  Heck, they even say numbers assigned to
you and working for you that you PAY for, don't belong to you.

SO, NOW, the SMS, as of September 17, "based on recent RespOrg input",
will discontinue issuing a weekly list of 888's being released, and
will release them in some un-defined timeframe as well.  Presumably,
it will be harder for "thieves" to "steal" the numbers.  Of course, it
will also be harder for RespOrgs to capture 888 releases "belonging"
to their customers (which customer said they "assert no interest
in" in order to get them released.)

Who's had enough of this absurdity?  If all these years everyone is
saying that customers have no interest in these numbers -- as the
Industry Guidelines, written by RespOrgs themselves, have always clearly
stated -- then why are these same RespOrgs duking it out over their
customers' proprietary interest in specific numbers?

Perhaps it's time for everyone to get it that the Emperor is waddling
down the street NAKED.  (Gee, maybe someone should tell the FCC?)


Judith

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------------------------------

From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: 800/888 Problem; Suggestions Welcome
Date: 20 Sep 1997 14:57:33 GMT
Organization: Ashworth & Associates


Well, here we go again.

A client of mine, who's had the same doesn't-spell-anything-in-
particular 800 number for about ten years now, started getting calls
this week that they didn't expect.

300 or more of them.

For "AESolutions", which is apparently the power utility in
Pennsylvania, somewhere.

You see, the folks at AE Solutions apparently went to their carrier,
MCI (big surprise) and said "we'd like a number that spells out our
name".  Presumably, the MCI people looked up my client's 800 number,
discovered that it was assigned, and then said "well, 800-AESOLUT is
already taken ... but 888-AESOLUT is available, why don't you take
that".

The customer, not knowing any better, of course said "sure".

The expected chaos is ensuing.

_My_ outlook on this is that the culpable party is the utility's sales
rep at MCI, who should understand his business well enough to know, as
we all do, why assigning a branded number in 888 is probably a bad idea
just now.

Obviously, the real culprits are the customers, but hell, you can't
expect people to _read_ or anything.

Would anyone like to challenge my appraisal of the situation, or offer
suggestions are to which is the best approach to a solution?  We can't
even run a prompter front end to let callers pick the right number ...
because their INWATS carrier and ours are different.

I agree with Judith, as those who read my DNS NOI notes will know:
branded numbers belong in 800, numbers that don't need to be branded
should only be assigned in the other blocks.  I'd grandfather, but if
your brand ain't available in 800, lump it: find another way to spell
it.  Same problem as the "new big 7", which suck, BTW.  :-)

Please email, I'll summarize.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth       High Technology Systems Consulting              Ashworth
Designer            Linux: Where Do You Want To Fly Today?        & Associates
ka1fjx/4              Crack.  It does a body good.             +1 813 790 7592
jra@baylink.com          http://rc5.distributed.net                  NIC: jra3


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You could always answer with a taped
announcment on the front saying 'this is Company X ... repeat, this
is Company X; this is not AE Solutions. If you are calling AE Solutions
you have reached a wrong number; please hang up now; if you are
calling Company X at 800-whatever please remain on the line for an
answer."  Stress the 'eight hundred' part of the number, and maybe
add a line saying 'this is not 888-whatever' stressing the 888 part.
Of course some people will dial over and over when they hear that, but
at least you can dump them after 15 seconds or so each time.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: dreuben@tiac.net (Douglas Reuben)
Subject: Bell Atlantic Alpha Messaging: Followup
Date: 20 Sep 1997 20:38:53 GMT
Organization: Interpage Network Svcs Inc / +1 510 254-0133 / www.interpage.net


After receiving some feedback as a result of a recent post regarding
Bell Atlantic's Alpha Messaging product on their Digitial Choice CDMA
plans, I'd like to make a few corrections and add a few observations.

1. I noted that there should not be any alpha messaging in the
ex-Contel Cellular of Vermont/00300 system, covering northern Vermont
(north of a line running roughly from Rutland to White River Jct.,
more or less along US-4, and generally north of I-89), and that the
switch servicing the 00300 system was probably still a Motorola EMX.

Neither of the above are correct: Despite what BAMS told me (and I
mean this only in a constructive way; the product manager was very
helpful in explaining the issues involved), there IS alpha messaging
in the areas I have traveled in the 00300 system, mainly from White
River to Montpelier.  Messages come in very quickly, and not only was
it a pleasant surprise after being told that it would be "a while"
before messaging worked there, but since my pagers do not work there,
it was very useful being able to get my pages on the mobile phone.

Interestingly, it seems that the switch recordings I get in the 00300
system say "119", which is the BAMS/A-side switch ID for the
Connecticut system. Perhaps Vermont is being run off of the CT switch
in some manner, similar to the way the Dutchess and Orange County
(00486/00404) systems appear to be operating off the Albany (00078)
switch (and thus receiving messages)? Additionally, the switch serving
00300 is definitely not an EMX, and sounds like an AT&T Autoplex, so
that would perhaps support the notion that it is somehow run off of
the CT switch or something along those lines. Just a guess, though.

2. I also unintentionally confused the two Vermont systems; to clarify:
   
   00300 - is the "B" side in Northern VT, which used to be owned by
           Contel, and is now run by BAMS. It does not cover southern VT
           or New Hampshire (as does the A carrier), but handoffs work
           well (at least on I-89 and I-91 in the White River area) 
	   between the 00300 and the growing United States Cellular
           01484 system serving Southern VT and southwestern NH. (The
           01484 is on the NACN even though US Cell in this market is
           the "B" carrier, "A" roamers can roam on the system and receive
           calls, use features, etc. You can even set your phone to roam
           on the strongest signal, A or B, and receive calls, place them,
           and use features on either the 01484 or it's A-side
           counterpart, the Atlantic Cellular 00313 system. Roam charges,
           if any, may vary between the two system; check with your home
           carrier.) As noted above, the 00300 seems to be an Autoplex,
	   although I think under Contel it was an EMX.

   00313 - Cell One/VT and Western NH. This system is owned by Atlantic
           Cellular, which seems to own a number of RSA's, mainly in
           mountainous areas :)  (Seriously, they also own a system in
           El Dorado County, CA, also in the hills southwest of Lake
           Tahoe. You can spot these systems by the male recording they 
	   employ in (seemingly) all their markets.) They cover all of 
           Vermont (they took over the failing Montpelier and northen
           Vermont system a few years ago), as well as a good chunk of
	   western New Hampshire. They also operate half a system (along
           with Cellular One/Boston) in the Lakes Region of eastern NH,
	   which is so mismanaged it is laughable (the SID is 01485 or 87,
           I forget...one is in NH, the other is in NJ). They are the 
           premier carrier in the region, offering by far the best
	   coverage and service area. They finally got their EMX switch 
	   well integrated into the NACN, and calls and features for all
	   NACN roamers work fine there. They also operate a small area
           near VT on the NY state side, and Franklin County, Mass, which
           they purchased from BAMS maybe 3 years ago. 

3. Maine is NOT included in the BAMS extended "home roam" airtime plans,
   so if you go to Maine, you don't get the free incoming minute, or
   the off peak airtime plans (if you subscribe to them.) I do believe
   Maine's B side is run, at least in Southern Maine, off of the BAMS
   switch for the 00028 or 00428(?) system, so perhaps Alpha Messaging
   does work there. Anyone test that yet? Additionally, Rochester NH and
   the immediate surrounding area is covered by the Maine B side, so be 
   careful if you roam there. Most people I know living in seacoast NH or
   in Rockingham County and Portsmouth are very disgusted with their
   cellular service: The A side has 3 systems all bleeding into each other
   in the area, and the B has two, none of which reciprocate in
   terms of airtime plans on their respective sides, so customers have 
   to frequently pay higher roaming charges for using their phone because
   they happen to live on the line between systems. (A good market for 
   Nextel? :) )

4. The BAMS Eastern New Hampshire/00428 system also has alpha messaging.

   Thus, it would seem that the largest "holes" in the BAMS messaging 
   "network" area: 

   NY: Queens, Kings (Brooklyn), Richmond (Staten Island), 
   Bronx, Westchester, Rockland, and Southern Putnam Counties in NY (all
   in the 00022 system -- do they even sell Alpha in NY? Who'd want it?)
   (Note: Kings County is Brooklyn, not the Bronx as I indicated in my
   earlier post.)   

   RI: No Alpha Messaging anywhere in RI, except perhaps extreme northern
   sections of the state and Woonsocket, ie, near the Boston part of the
   00028 system, where messaging does work. 

   MA: No Alpha Messaging in the SE Mass area, New Bedford, Taunton, etc.

   CT: No Alpha Messaging in Litchfield, which is not run by BAMS.

   PA: Areas of Philadelphia seem to have it, and others don't; can't
   figure it out yet. I could also just be due to occasional delays
   in getting messages.


Overall, though, with messaging now available in the BAMS Hudson River
corridor (00486, 00404, 00078), VT (00300 - it may have worked there
for a while; I was told it didn't), and Eastern NH (00428), the
utility of the service has increased, at least for me.

Now if they could only get all their markets online and allow more than 55
characters per page! ...

Well, at least there is some progress :)


Regards,

Doug

dreuben@interpage.net / +1 (510) 254-0133 / www.interpage.net
Interpage Network Services Inc.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 10:36:52 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "HTML 3.2 Quick Reference"


BKHT32QR.RVW   970319
 
"HTML 3.2 Quick Reference", Que Corporation, 1997, 0-7897-1144-3,
U$19.99/C$28.95/UK#18.49
%A   Que Corporation euteam@que.mcp.com 72410.2007@compuserve.com
%C   201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN   46290
%D   1997
%G   0-7897-1144-3
%I   MacMillan Computer Publishing (MCP)
%O   U$19.99/C$28.95/UK#18.49 800-858-7674 317-581-3743 info@mcp.com
%P   202
%T   "HTML 3.2 Quick Reference, Second Ed."
 
As with most quick reference guides, this contains all the HTML
(HyperText Markup Language) tags and commands up to version 3.2.  As a
matter of fact, it goes a little beyond, listing obsolete and proposed
commands as well.  Each element is listed by name, and contains
information on compliance.  (The listings are for Netscape, Internet
Explorer, Mosaic, HTML 2, and HTML 3.2.  The codes for the graphical
browsers indicate only the "latest version".)  In addition, there is a
brief description of syntax, some discussion of purpose and use, and
an example or two.  Some entries also contain screen shots, or lists
of related commands.
 
Surrounding this central reference are a number of aids.  The tables
grouping related commands are quite useful, as are the character code
and colour listings.  The newsgroup resources are somewhat less so,
with a number of groups included by only the most tenuous connections.
The expanded table of contents, alphabetically listing the
alphabetically arranged element entries, is a twenty-one page waste of
space.
 
The choice of what to include and what to leave out is always
problematic.  In general, the guide concentrates on more recent or
more esoteric commands, which is understandable in a work which is,
after all, not tutorial in nature, but meant for experienced users.
Less understandable is the brevity of both functions of the vital
anchor tag in comparison to individual listings for each of the six
header (<Hx>) tags, occupying a total of eight pages.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKHT32QR.RVW   970319


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
  "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
   nothing."  - Edmund Burke    http://www.netmind.com/~padgett/trial.htm

------------------------------

Date: 21 Sep 1997 10:43:00 +0100
From: rseoeg@site33.ping.at (Chris Mathews)
Subject: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack


   Forwarded from alt.peeves...

   ## Nachricht vom 19.09.97 weitergeleitet
   ## Ursprung : /alt/peeves
   ## Ersteller: fps@netcom.com

Spotted in news.admin.net-abuse.email, reposted FYAmusement.

So who wants to break out the bubbly?

In article <5vu8rd$pqq@darkstar.ucsc.edu>,
Mark Boolootian <booloo@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:

> In http://207.87.233.68/outage.html, Sanford laments:

>                         Network Outage Update Page

>                               9-19-97 10:00am

> Letter to Cyber Promotions' customers by Sanford Wallace, President...

> Dear Customers,

> Cyber Promotions has experienced serious network problems for the last few
> days. These problems have affected every customer in one way or another. I
> have finally collected the information which explains this circumstance, and
> I think it may make you quite mad. Cyber is also calling out for your help.
> You can be part of this fight right now.

> The major network problems started on Wednesday, 9-16-97. Our primary
> backbone provider, AGIS, took responsibility for the problem. The following
> is a quote from AGIS' web site...

> Philadelphia Route Reflector
> Posted at 23:45 EDT on September 16, 1997

> At 16:00 EDT, our Philadelphia Route reflector went down. After extensive
> troubleshooting with the vendor, it was discovered that the ATM card the
> reflector runs off of is defective. ETA for a replacement part on site is
> 22:00 EDT on 9/17. Customers in the North East US will experience moderate
> to high ping times and traces, but traffic is getting through. We have
> opened Ticket# 032499 on this issue, and will update this page when we have
> more information or an updated ETR.

> Well, since that problem was detected, our network connection was never
> restored back to normal. We called AGIS' network operation center over and
> over again, every 10 minutes, to get an update and estimated time of repair.
> I understood the damage that our customers would incur with each and every
> minute of downtime. But AGIS' answer was always the same... "Engineering is
> working on it. They won't give us any more info." Yesterday, their answers
> began to change. At 8am, their network operation center told me that there
> was only one engineer that could resolve the problem, and he wasn't in yet.
> He was expected to get there in an hour. At 9am they then said he didn't
> come in yet, but rather, he was in an off-premise meeting. But they would
> page him. At 10am, they simply said, "He's not here yet." I even went so far
> as to offer my personal assistance. At this point, I personally tried to
> reach AGIS' CEO, Phil Lawler, to fill him in on the details. But, Mr. Lawler
> was apparently out of town on business, and wouldn't return until Monday.

> In a desperate move, we started asking our customers to call AGIS and
> pressure then into escalating this repair. Within minutes, AGIS
> representatives quickly changed their story. They started telling our
> customers that the connection was down because Cyber Promotions had breached
> some sort of security protocol, and that their routing equipment was never
> broken (despite the fact that on their own web page, they still admitted
> that the equipment was faulty). And since this was a "security issue" they
> stated that they could no longer give out any further details.

> At that point, we called in our legal representatives to contact AGIS. Our
> lawyers actually got through to AGIS' in-house counsel. Within an hour or
> so, we received a copy of affidavits that were prepared by AGIS' engineers.
> You're never going to believe this... but in their affidavits, they claimed
> that they had to turn off Cyber Promotions' connectivity because Cyber was
> being ping attacked by a third party!

> The following is important: Agis had filtered ICMP (ping and traceroute) for
> months until they upgraded their routers a few weeks ago. When they upgraded
> their routers, they stopped filtering ICMP for some unknown reason. We were
> concerned, because they left the door open for ping attacks by
> anti-spammers.

> Here are some quotes from AGIS' affidavits (that were not marked
> confidential in any way):

> By Adam Hersh, senior engineer: "I attended (a) meeting with Les Addison and
> Rick Pado, and we analyzed the status of AGIS network performance problems,
> and I determined and recommended that the circuits of Cyber Promotions and
> Quantcom needed to remain off in order for AGIS not to suffer further
> network performance problems ... The ping flood attacks observed originating
> from the west coast into AGIS network and directed to the Washington routers
> and Philadelphia routers, severely degraded AGIS network performance to (an)
> unacceptable level ... AGIS had no alternative but to shutoff services to
> Cyber Promotions and Quantcom."

> By Richard Pado, senior engineer: "Les Addion, AGIS Chief Engineer, worked
> with me to reset configuration settings in attempts to resolve the AGIS
> network disruption. These attempts failed ... I attempted several ICMP
> debugs and consequently lost connectivity because of the massive ping flood
> attacks ... I performed and analyzed TCP dumps regularly ... I resolved the
> AGIS network disruption by shutting down the interfaces of Cyber Promotions,
> Inc. and Quantum ..."

> In other words, AGIS admitted just three days ago that their equipment was
> faulty, and then admitted that their so-called senior engineers don't know
> how to stop a ping attack without disconnecting their customers.

> Also bear in mind, Phil Lawler, CEO of AGIS, signed the connectivity
> contract with Cyber Promotions. I am not allowed to disclose the details of
> the contract, but let it be known that immediate termination is blatantly
> against the provisions of the agreement. Unfortunately, it appears that
> since Mr. Lawler was out of town, the terms of our contract were not even
> considered.

> What can you do? You may wish to call AGIS and explain to them the damaging
> affect of having your connectivity shut down. You may wish to suggest
> alternatives to them. You may wish to offer your help. You may wish to give
> them a piece of your mind. That is up to you. Our official recommendation is
> that you should realize that we are all in this together. Cyber Promotions
> will fight hard, and so should you.

> At this time, our lawyers are preparing temporary restraining order papers.
> We plan to bring this issue to federal court immediately. We are also
> transferring many of our services to our backup connections with other
> backbone providers. We can not give you an exact ETA on full service
> restoral until we get more information about the status of the AGIS
> connection. Please come back to this web page to see frequent updates. Thank
> you for your continued support. Free commerce on the Internet WILL PREVAIL!
> (Agis contacts below).

> Regards,

> Sanford Wallace

> President and CEO
>
> Cyber Promotions, Inc.

>
>                               AGIS contacts:

>   AGIS engineering: Adam Hersh, Les Addison, Richard Pado (313) 730-1130

>                AGIS Network Operation Center (313) 730-5151

>                          AGIS Fax (313) 563-6119

(submitted to the net by)
> Mark Boolootian
> booloo@cats.ucsc.edu


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What a rotten shame! So is Spamford
still out of service or has he managed to snooker other ISP's and/or
networks, etc into handling his nasty traffic? I wondered why my
inbox had so little spam when I checked it early today, and now I
know. Whoever was doing the pinging which caused this to happen, you
have the heartiest congratulations of net-people everywhere.  PAT]

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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 21 Sep 97 22:31:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 256

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Bell Atlantic CDMA Privacy Option (brian@his.com)
    56k Standards Fight is a Patent Fight, Too (Eric Florack)
    DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP? (J.F. Mezei)
    Master List of SLC's by LEC's (Herman Ohme)
    Online Service Provider a Moneygrubber? (J. DeBert)
    Re: MedicAlert and 209 Split (Babu Mengelepouti)
    Re: The Medic-Alert Brouhaha (Ed Ellers)
    Re: The Medic-Alert Brouhaha (Tom Watson)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (William H. Bowen)

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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 18:27:02 -0400
From: brian <brian@his.com>
Subject: Bell Atlantic CDMA Privacy Option


	When I got my BANM CDMA phone in January the saleswoman told
me several things that turned out not to be true.  The first was the
availability of the hands free car kit with external antenna.  She
said it would be available in about a month.  It has been almost nine
months now and they still say they don't have it.
	
	And the other thing that was not true is the "Privacy" option
on the Qualcomm phone.  Basically, it is the encryption in the IS-95
CDMA standard.  She said that I wouldn't like it because it added
about a half second of delay into the audio due to the processing;
however, it would be available "shortly."  Well, I have never been
able to get BANM to define "shortly."  Last week however, I finally
got a somewhat-knowledgeable customer service agent.  She said the
only thing on their service menu remotely like encryption is
'Transcrypt' and it was on the analog phones, not the digital phones.
So then I send my fourth e-mail to BANM in eight months, hoping to get
a higher-level response.  This time, they call me back for the first
time.  A lady in Networks says they have no plans to activate the
option.  Why?  "Dunno."

Has anyone else been told anything about "Privacy."

Caveat Emptor.


And as always, please visit my home page at http://www.his.com/brian

Find my PGP keys at
http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=brian@his.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 05:58:39 PDT
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: 56k Standards Fight is a Patent Fight, Too


This has been under discussion, and this adds information to that
discussion.

/E

Fighting Over the Bone
by Brian McWilliams, PC World News Radio
September 18, 1997

Setting international modem standards used to be a private process
carried on behind closed doors, but the heated discussions over the
pending 56-kbps modem have spilled into the streets -- again. This
time, it's Lucent Technologies that claims to be in the driver's seat
regarding intellectual property.

"We think that the patents we have will limit the ability of other
parties to get patents that read on the core of the technology," says
Bob Rango, general manager of Lucent's modem chip-making group. "We
didn't say that no other patents would be granted, but since we
invented this thing back in 1992, we started filing patents way back
then. I mean, the patents that we're getting issued now were filed two
to three years ago."

Lucent was responding today to the announcement earlier this month by
3Com that it had exclusive rights to the intellectual property of
inventor Brent Townshend, who claims to have patents pending on core
56-kbps modem technology.

Rango said that Lucent sent a letter to the International
Telecommunications Union today saying that it will license its patents
on PCM, or pulse code modulation, to other companies under reasonable
terms and conditions. 3Com, of course, earlier made a similar
announcement regarding its patents.

Dataquest analyst Lisa Pelgrim says it's all a continuation of the
jockeying that's historically occurred during the modem standards
process. The only difference today is that PC users are closely
following the twists and turns.

"In past standards, most recently V.34, there were a lot of issues
that came up in court that were not publicized," notes Pelgrim. "One
of the things that has happened with 56K is that it has been very
public. A lot of it comes from the Internet taking off and so many
people finding that they do want faster [access] speeds, which makes
56K a big story."


(Eric notes: Not to mention the lack of real commitment to ISDN from
locals, as has been suggested previously in this forum.)

One significant element of Lucent's intellectual property that we know
won't be in the ITU draft standard that's in the works now is Lucent's
technology for doing PCM on the upstream side of the connection. Last
January, Lucent said it had developed and was testing PCM for
transmission from the PC to a host modem, and had been able to get
nearly bisymmetrical connect speeds with upstream speeds of 45
kbps. But Rango today said Lucent had to shelve that technology for
compatibility reasons.

"In order to expedite the technology deployment on K56flex, we elected
to do V.34 upstream because we wanted to get the quickest
interoperability with our partner, Rockwell," he explained.

Rango says Lucent and other modem companies involved in the ITU
standards process are doing everything they can to get a draft standard
in January. He said most are already designing their modem code to
reflect the standards work that's occurred so far.

------------------------------

From: J.F. Mezei <jfmezei@videotron.ca>
Subject: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 03:45:00 -0500
Organization: VTL
Reply-To: "[non-spam]jfmezei"@videotron.ca


800 (and 888) numbers are "router" based, right ? When I dial an 800
number, the telco translates this to a standard telephone number,
right ?

Why not do the same for *ALL* NAP numbers ?  You dial any number,
and the telco translates it to an actual "network address" wherever
that phone might be ?

This would remove the need to constantly split area codes since there
wouldn't be "area codes" anymore, just 10 digit telehone numbers.
Need a new line, just grab the next available number. With more and
more cities being split into different area codes, dialing 10 digits
for ALL numbers might become more natural than having to decide
whether one has to dial 7 or 10 digits.

Also, when one person moves, one could keep the same telephone number
and the telco would simply change the routing tables. If one changes
supplier of dial tone, same would happen. Keep your number, change
routing table.

This would be quite similar to the internet domain name system.


The questions:

	-Has this been studied ?
	-Is computer technology fast enough to allow such a "DNS" 
	 based scheme (similar to the internet) for all calls in North
	 America ?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would think this would be sort of
risky, although there is lots of talk about 'number portability' and
I guess we are going to have it in the not to distant future. The
problem I see is the inability of the technology at the present
time to keep up with the speed needed. Now, this look-up arrangement
is done with most (all?) 800 numbers (are there still any 'hard-wired'
800 numbers around in any telco, anywhere, dating back to the late
1960's perhaps?) but toll-free calls make up only a small percentage
of the total traffic, and if one listens closely one can detect a
very slight delay in processing those calls now while the lookup
is being done as contrasted to 'regular' local calls. Also, I have
to wonder about database failures as happens occassionally now with
800. Just the other day AT&T's 800 numbers were out of service for
a short period of time -- was it a couple hours? -- due to the database
having been incorrectly loaded. When number portability becomes the
norm over the next few years should we expect from time to time that
the entire national phone system will freeze up and reject calls if
the database happens to be trashed?  And what happens if the database
is deliberatly tampered with?  

I am reminded of an occassion quite a few years ago when in the
process of mailing out this Digest one day, every single copy got
tossed back in my face. Not a known host in the bunch, but then a
couple hours later I found out from someone that, "well, you see there
is this domain/host resolver in (I think they said Georgia) that got
all screwed up last night. There was a comma in one of the entries
which messed up everything after that point; it propogated around the
net ... made quite a mess ... but they edited it and reloaded it
and now all is fine ..."

Well ... accidents will happen I suppose; the latest problem with
AT&T and the 800 number fiasco several days ago was blamed on 
'human error' which is all quite understandable. But to trust every
single telephone number to a database which is susceptible to 'human
error' seems like quite a risk to me, to say nothing of human malice
and terrorist hackers, etc.    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:57:22 -0500
From: Herman Ohme <ohme@stic.net>
Subject: Master List of SLC's by LEC's


Is there a master list of (SLC's) Subscriber Line Charges by all LEC's
for fixed monthly fees for special telco circuits (ie. WAL, DAL,T-1),
or Special Access Surcharge (SAS) on special access circuits.

------------------------------

From: J. DeBert <jdebert@hypatia.com>
Subject: Online Service Provider a Moneygrubber?
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:23:28 -0700


It seems that there is a problem with one of the oldest online service
providers, based somewhere in Ohio.

Three months ago they "double-dipped", charging both my checking
account _and_ credit card for monthly fees, including a rather
significant amount they had previously credited back to me.

Since then, all they tell me is, "Your refund is in process" or "We'll
submit a refund request" and to "wait two weeks", until the last time
when they said that they could not issue a refund.

Since then I closed my account, waited fourteen days then called to
see what was up. Again, I am told that "it is in process", whatever
that means -- apparently it does not mean that they intend to repay
the money they owe me.

They double-billed once, long ago, but refunded the money relatively
quickly.

Has any other comp.dcom.telecom readers had such a thing happen to
them?

Are they perhaps so strapped for cash that they cannot pay?

Are they so desperate that they need to double-bill?

Any advice?

Should I sue them? File a report with a credit bureau such as Standard
& Poor's? Call a newspaper "Action Line" and set them on this service
provider? Complain to the BBB?  Call the FCC?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Since the oldest online service provider
anywhere, as you point out, based in Ohio, has a few management people
who read this Digest regularly, I'd hope one of them would call you
after seeing this and make the needed correction. Honestly, they are
pretty good most of the time in their customer service. Try to get
through to a supervisor or the head of customer service.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 19:23:04 -0400
From: Babu Mengelepouti <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>
Reply-To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
Organization: US Secret Service
Subject: Re: MedicAlert and 209 Split


jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) wrote Re: California's 209 NPA Split and
MedicAlert

> You mean someone actually BOUGHT the "Help, I've fallen and I can't
> get up" gadget?  And it costs them a long distance call every time the
> neighbor opens his garage door?  And they're still working?  Somehow,
> these have always seemed to be in the same realm as Chia pets and the
> Clapper.

Actually, my grandparents purchased these at my insistence two years
ago.  My grandfather had been stricken with bone and prostate cancer,
and was immobile (the cancer had made his bones so brittle he'd broken
both hips).  And my grandmother was able to totter around the house a
bit, but due to severe arthritis she could not even walk so far as
from the house to her car without assistance -- and usually was taken
around in a wheelchair.

I cared for them over the summer, but had to return to school in the
fall.  And I was worried.  They lived on a farm on a remote road six
miles outside of town, in a remote valley in the North Cascades.
Since they never went anywhere, it could be days before anyone noticed
that something was wrong.  What if my grandmother fell down?  It had
happened before -- shortly after I got there for the summer, she fell
down in the kitchen and I had to lift her.

Clearly it was necessary for them to have something.  While there were
two cordless phones in the house, I wasn't sure that if she fell the
phone would not break -- and besides, a 78 year old woman with arthritis,
in pain after having fallen, may be unable to dial the phone.

So I discussed the situation with them, and insisted that they get the
"I've fallen and I can't get up" device.  The device itself is a radio
transmitter which communicates with a base unit.  The base unit is
connected to a regular phone line.  When the button is pressed (in the
event of an emergency), the base unit has a yellow light that starts
flashing and sounds an alarm.  If the button on the device was pressed
accidentally, you can go press a button under the yellow light and it
won't summon help.  If within 2 minutes you don't go press the button,
it calls an 800 number, and a modem transmits to the company's central
computers that there is a situation.  The company (I believe they're
called "LifePlus" in Issaquah, Washington) calls back the number they
have on file to make sure that everything is okay.  If everything is NOT
okay, or there is no answer, they make an aid call to the fire department.

While these devices did not save the lives of my grandparents (my
grandmother recently passed away due to heart problems, and my
grandfather died of cancer last year), it did extend them by awhile. 
She did fall down and used the device to summon help.  Without it, she
could have died!

I think that this much-ridiculed invention can be a lifesaver to older
people living alone, especially in remote areas -- of which we have many
in Washington state.  And I'm glad that it was available for my
grandparents to use.

Given the circumstances, I very much am in favor of the 209 split
happening the way that it did.  Each unit would have to be returned to
the company to be reprogrammed, or someone sent to every home to
reprogram each of them before the split.  And there is always a
possibility that one might be missed -- one which could later need to
be used to summon emergency help.  I think it would have been a far
better design for an 800 number to be used, as the company in Issaquah
does.  But what's done is done and I don't think that an old woman
who's fallen down ought to pay with her life (or health) for
MedicAlert's incompetence.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I got the very same thing for my mother
several years ago and paid for the first year of service in advance.
Hers operates the same way and calls an 800 number. The range of the
base unit is pretty good; it works anywhere in her two-story house,
the front or back yard, and over into the neighbor's yard as well.

On hers, she can either press the button on the necklace she wears
*or* she can not respond to a phone call at a certain time of day
as pre-arranged. I think she has them call her at 9:00 AM daily which
is a time she is always up. If she presses the button -- and she has
done so a couple times by accident, and once when she first got it
to test it out -- a speakerphone comes to life and dials the number.
Within a few seconds the operator/dispatcher has her name and
address on the screen (they do not rely on ANI, but rather, the base
unit transmits data over the line when an answer is received) and the
dispatcher will say something like, "Ruth? (that is her name) ... 
are you there Ruth? Is something wrong? Please speak to me."

If she answers she can explain the problem (or say it was an 
accident). If there is no response or if the dispatcher does not
like the sounds he is hearing -- for example someone screaming or
crying -- then he can make a decision on how to handle it. If the
dispatcher does not get an answer at the agreed-upon time for a call
each day he can also make some decision for handling it. The company
asks for the name and address for a couple of close relatives as
well as the name, address and phone number of the neighbor on
either side, provided those people have given their written permission
to be listed with the company. A 'no-answer' situation on the daily
phone call means a call will go to the two neighbors with a request
that they check on my mother. If the user answers and describes a
problem then a call will go out to police/fire/medical personnel as
needed. In the event of a 'no answer' to the daily call and the
neighbors are not available then police are called and asked to
check the well-being of the person. I think it is a great system
for elderly people who insist on retaining their independence and
living alone, etc.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: The Medic-Alert Brouhaha
Date: 21 Sep 1997 06:27:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com> wrote:

> What's wrong with simply going ahead with the split as originally
> intended, and then REPLICATING THE MEDIC-ALERT PHONE NUMBER IN BOTH
> CODES until such time as Medic-Alert can, over time, ensure that all
> the existing Medic-Alert bracelets are replaced?  Or indefinitely if
> we want to save some expense?  It's one phone number.  It's done with
> toll-free numbers all the time for FAR less needful reasons ... am I
> missing something here?"

The difference between replicating toll-free numbers and replicating
conventional numbers is that the former use a lookup table while
normal numbers *always* go to a specific central office based on the
NXX.  Once the "mandatory" dialing period (where you get a warning
recording) ends and the NXXs open up any seven-digit calls to this
number, dialed within the new NPA, will either go to a different
central office in the new NPA -- which would have to call-forward them
to the desired number -- or else will fail if there is not yet a CO in
the new NPA that uses that prefix.  I don't know of any way to "fix"
the switches so that that one seven-digit number will be sent directly
to a different CO from the one that normally handles that NXX.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There really would be nothing to be
'fixed'. Have the number which winds up in the wrong area code be
a 'foreign exchange' (FX) line to the place where it is desired, or
use 'remote call forwarding' where a virtual number terminates in 
the central office (never going to any actual subscriber) and from
there it gets forwarded to the same number but in the new area code.

When Ameritech opened 847/630/773 they were offering remote call
forwarding to customers -- at a price of course -- telling people they
could have 'their' number in any area they desired. The only catch
was assuming the 312/708 version of the number was not already taken,
which usually it was not since the former 312/708'er was being put in
847 or 773 anyway. So, you just let the distant telephone switches
do their thing in the usual way; when the receiving switch gets the
call it handles it like FX or RCF to wherever the subscriber is. With
RCF the person receiving the calls pays for them being forwarded, 
and with FX there is just some monthly rate to the subscriber; it is
all transparent to the person originating the call; all he pays for
is what he actually dialed, period, not what the receiving CO decides
to do with it.  

Also you are mistaken on how 'normal' numbers are handled where the
competition is concerned. For example, MCI now offers local service
in this area and they allow you to keep your existing Ameritech 
number if desired. Ameritech's CO still gets the call, but sees it
now goes to MCI and translates it (or maybe call forwards it) to the
MCI pseudo-number assigned to you.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: tsw@cagent.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Re: The Medic-Alert Brouhaha
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:44:28 -0700
Organization: CagEnt, Inc.


In article <telecom17.254.9@telecom-digest.org>, Joey Lindstrom
<joey@lindstrom.com> wrote:

> What's wrong with simply going ahead with the split as originally
> intended, and then REPLICATING THE MEDIC-ALERT PHONE NUMBER IN BOTH
> CODES until such time as Medic-Alert can, over time, ensure that all
> the existing Medic-Alert bracelets are replaced?  Or indefinitely if
> we want to save some expense?  It's one phone number.  It's done with
> toll-free numbers all the time for FAR less needful reasons ... am I
> missing something here?

No, you ARE NOT missing anything.  The whole decision is/was
POLITICAL.  Political decisions are not based on anything reasonable.
Somebody wanted their way, and found a "good excuse" to get it that
way.

Similar arguments have been touted as "starving <insert something
here>" and thus detremental.  Based on fact, you ARE joking!!

Welcome to the USA.

It was related to me this way:
Legislation is like sausage.  The final product is OK, but you don't
want to know how it is made.

This probably relates to almost ALL area code problems, "equal" local
access, why the Bell system was broken up, why Microsoft is intact,
etc ... the list goes on.  Everybody comes up with an "excuse".  Some
are more reasonable/palatable than others.  They mask the "real"
agenda.


tsw@cagent.com         (Home: tsw@johana.com)
Please forward spam to: annagram@hr.house.gov (my Congressman), I do.

------------------------------

From: bowenb@best.com (William H. Bowen)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:37:04 GMT
Reply-To: bowenb@best.com


rseoeg@site33.ping.at (Chris Mathews) wrote:

> snipped Spamford's "crying in his beer" for brevity<

> (submitted to the net by)
>> Mark Boolootian
>> booloo@cats.ucsc.edu

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What a rotten shame! So is Spamford
> still out of service or has he managed to snooker other ISP's and/or
> networks, etc into handling his nasty traffic? I wondered why my
> inbox had so little spam when I checked it early today, and now I
> know. Whoever was doing the pinging which caused this to happen, you
> have the heartiest congratulations of net-people everywhere.  PAT]

Chris,

  The latest I've heard is that BBN Planet is going to provide
Spamford with connectivity. BUT, on another note, I've also heard
that two large BBN customers in the Bay Area are going to have a long
talk with BBN and tell them "if you accept Spamford, we're out of
here". Maybe the saner heads at BBN will prevail.

  BTW, I still think the only thing that will dissuade Spamford and
his ilk is a direct physical attack (a commando raid) on his operation
and put it out of business. A little drastic maybe, but, as the Sean
Connery character said in the movie "The Untouchables": "if he brings
a knife, you bring a gun. If he puts one of yours in the hospital, put
one of his in the morgue".


Regards,

Bill Bowen
bowenb@best.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well now, I certainly cannot condone
any unlawful activities, which I guess would cover a commando raid on
Spamford's heaquarters, busting up his computers, tearing down all his
circuits, etc. I mean, I would not be surprised to see it happen one
of these days/nights, knowing human nature as I do, and knowing how
*really bitter and angry* a lot of netters are over his antics, but I
still cannot and would not condone it. Violence is never an answer to
the problems of the net. I think back to the olden days of Citizens
Band Radio when it was in its glory and how after periods of massive
interference and static caused by CB'ers operating illegally certain
vigilantes would go out late at night to use triangulation to locate
the offender. When located, indeed the response was pretty ugly. 

Antennas would be toppled over, the coaxial cable would be sliced in
several pieces; if possible, the vigilantes would gain entrance to the
premises and totally destroy the radio. By the time it was finished
and the vigilantes left, the illegal CB-er would be wishing it was the
FCC which had raided him instead. Now the FCC agents could be and were
pretty vicious -- I have often joked that FBI agents in those days
were trained by the FCC field inspectors which is how the FBI guys got
such ugly dispositions -- but the FCC at least could usually be
counted on to do no more than smash up the radio, seize everything
which remotely looked like radio equipment to use as 'evidence' and
give you your day in court.  The vigilante CB-ers on the other hand
had no time or patience to waste on the justice system in the USA; a
couple broken arms or a house set afire were not unheard of. And then
for a few days the radios would all be very, very quiet. Most all
the CB community knew who the vigilantes were, and most condemned
violence to the extreme they had seen it, but at the same time their
attitude was damned if they would cooperate with the police at all
when it came to catching/prosecuting the 'community heroes'. 

We never, not once, in the 1960's and early 1970's ever thought that
our wonderful communications medium known as Citizens Band Radio
would ever be abused or come to an end after people got so bitter
and fed-up that they unplugged their radios and tossed them on a 
shelf in the closet. And who on this net who has been around since
the early 1980's or even five years ago would have suspected that
we may indeed see physical violence against abusers, or even the
technological violence -- pinging, email bombs, etc -- that are so
common today. Years ago on Usenet we would have discussions about
'the death of Usenet'. I even got into them and everyone would laugh
and predict the 'death of the net' for whatever reason. Maybe the
death of the net will come when we turn on the news some day and
read that Spamford was found dead; his office a shambles; and FBI
agents harassing all the netters they can find about it. Maybe 
people will say to hell with it and toss their computers on the
shelf next to the dusty old CB radio. I don't know why, and I don't
really approve of violence, but I have a feeling we are going to
experience a net catharsis sometime soon in the form of such a 
shocking act of violence. It just seems to be the logical response
to the direction in which we are moving very rapidly. And like
the CB community more than twenty years ago, if I did know anything
about it I'd be damned before I told the government anything.  PAT]

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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 22 Sep 97 21:06:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 257

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Tonight's Monday Night Bandwidth Chat 7-8PM Pacific Time (Peter J Harrison)
    BellSouth Can't Tell Time (John E. Connerat)
    SprintPCS Long Delay Before Voicemail (Rick Strobel)
    Long Distance Information? Don't Count on It (Steve Bunning)
    Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance (Jay R. Ashworth)
    AT&T Tests New DA Service (Tad Cook)
    Radio Vigilantes (Ed Ellers)
    Insight on ABC's 20/20 (Tara D. Mahon)
    Call for International Testers (Mike Fine)
    New and Existing NPA/NXX Index? (Thad Jacobs)
    Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Marc Baime)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (John Nagle)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Bruce Pennypacker)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Kevin Podsiadlik)

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From: PeterH_MSN@msn.com (Peter John Harrison)
Subject: Tonight's Monday Night Bandwidth Chat 7-8PM Pacific Time
Date: 22 Sep 1997 19:41:28 GMT
Organization: Peter's Bandwidth Fontier on The Microsoft Network


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------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:52:12 -0400
From: John E. Connerat <jconner@publications.emory.edu>
Subject: BellSouth Can't Tell Time


I recently moved to 706-208 (Athens, Georgia), where I signed up for
"Memory Call" -- BellSouth's voicemail service. Since the very
beginning of my service, the time stamp on my incoming messages has
been 12 minutes fast. Assuming that this was an anomalous quirk, I did
nothing about it for several days.

When the problem didn't resolve itself, I called BellSouth repair. The
agent with whom I spoke was in great disbelief, until I had her call
my line, leave a test message, and let her listen in as I checked
it. She proclaimed that, "it must be wrong for everyone in your
area. How can that be?" I proceeded to tell her that it had been wrong
for days. She said that it would be fixed in 24-48 hours. I subsequently 
got a voice mail message from a human saying that my problem had been
fixed (with the wrong time stamp again).

Since it had not been fixed, I called back a week later, and went
through the same routine, explaining to this new agent that I had
indeed called before, and it really, really was broken. Despite the
same initial disbelief, she was convinced that indeed it was broken
and said she'd make sure it was repaired! 24 hours later I get an
automated message left on my voice mail proclaiming that "the problem
I reported had been fixed." Guess what? It's not!

Can anyone possibly fathom an explanation why all the techs involved
in the 706-208 Memory Call believe it's 12 minutes later than it
really is?  Wouldn't this mess up all sorts of records, and wouldn't
you think a herd of customers other than me might be inquiring?


I'm puzzled.

John E. Connerat
Athens, GA


TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They do not 'believe it is 12 minutes
later than it really is ...' What they are doing -- and had hoped
you would take a hint by now -- is closing your trouble tickets with
no action taken; just putting it down as a crank caller and letting
it go at that. They do not understand what you are talking about or
what it is you want done. Maybe the first person who answers your 
call eventually figures it out, but like the old game called 'Chinese
Telephone' by the time the ticket works its way around through the
maze and gets to some technician that person has no idea what you 
wanted. Or maybe he does, but wonders why you would be the one to
report it instead of one of his own kind so he closes the ticket 
and someone calls you and says 'all good now'.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: rstrobel@infotime.com (Rick Strobel)
Subject: SprintPCS Long Delay Before Voicemail
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 97 01:01:51 GMT
Organization: InfoTime, Inc.


Sprint just upgraded to a new voicemail system that is supposed to
work, unlike the original one.  I waited six months for it.

After the specified number of rings to my phone (about four or five)
there is a long pause of nine to twelve seconds before the voicemail
system picks up.

I rely on this voicemail for my small business.  I have call
forwarding busy/no answer on my main business line that forwards to my
PCS phone.  That way if the call can't be answered then I know the
caller will at least reach voicemail.

But, I'm afraid that after several rings and three "rings" worth of
dead air, many callers will just hang up -- and I could lose a sale.

I need to address this with my rep. again. Can anyone provide any data
that might say "xyz study found that callers assume the line is dead
after 12 seconds of no sound ... and hang up..."?

Thanks in advance for any advice or info.


Rick Strobel                         |                               |
InfoTime Fax Communications          |      Fax-on-Demand            |
502-426-4279                         |           &                   | 
502-426-3721 fax                     |      Fax Broadcast            |
rstrobel@infotime.com                |        Services               |
http://www.infotime.com              |                               | 

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:40:55 -0400
From: Steve Bunning <acecomm.com!sbunning@acec.com>
Subject: Long Distance Information? Don't Count on It


There is a front page article in the print edition of Sunday's
{Washington Post} titled "Long-Distance Information? Don't Count on
It" which highlights the problem with getting up-to-date and reliable
long distance information via NPA-555-1212.  While this is old news to
TELECOM Digest readers, the mass media now seems to have picked up on
the issue.  Here is a link to the electronic version of the article.

http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1997-09/21/243l-092197-idx.html


Steve Bunning    | ACE*COMM                   | 301 721-3023 (voice) 
Product Manager  | 704 Quince Orchard Road    | 301 721-3001 (fax)   
TEL*COMM Division| Gaithersburg, MD USA 20878 | sbunning@acecomm.com 
NASDAQ:ACEC      | "CDRs in Real-Time"        | WWW= www.acecomm.com 

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:58:27 -0400
From: Jay R. Ashworth <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance
Organization: Ashworth & Associates, St Pete FL USA


The following article was seen on the AP wire, and is included here for
commentary, under the fair use provision of US Copyright law.

     [ ... ]

     AT&T on Monday began testing its new ``00'' Info national directory
     assistance service in Minneapolis, Seattle, Phoenix, Denver and
     Portland, Ore.
     
     By dialing ``00'' customers in those areas will be able to obtain
     telephone listings for any place in the United States - even if
     they don't know the area code or city.

     [ ... ]

Um, does AT&T not realize that "00" is _taken_ as a dialable?


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                                jra@baylink.com
Member of the Technical Staff             Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued
The Suncoast Freenet      "People propose, science studies, technology
Tampa Bay, Florida          conforms."  -- Dr. Don Norman      +1 813 790 7592

------------------------------

Subject: AT&T Tests New DA Service
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:17:12 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


AT&T Tests New `00` Info Directory Assistance Service - Directory
Assistance the Way Customers Really Want It -

BASKING RIDGE, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--September 22, 1997--AT&T today
announced a market trial of its new AT&T `00` INFO(sm) (Double-0 Info)
national directory assistance service that allows AT&T customers to
obtain a telephone listing for any place in the United States with one
simple phone call - even if they don't have the area code or exact
city.

The `00` INFO service trial begins today in Seattle, Denver, Phoenix,
Minneapolis, and Portland, Ore.

In marked contrast to the industry trend to provide fully automated
directory assistance, AT&T `00` INFO Service features personal,
courteous, helpful service from specially trained AT&T information
assistants who will stay on the line for the entire call.  From the
moment they greet the customer by introducing themselves, AT&T
assistants are there to help customers simplify their lives, by
searching for a directory listing with as little information as a
partial name and a locality or state.  And AT&T assistants will stay
with the customer through the end of the call when they provide the
requested information.

`We're providing directory assistance the way customers really want
it,` said Howard McNally, vice president of AT&T Consumer Markets
Division.  `AT&T is bringing back the personal touch.  Not only will
we stay on the line with our customers, but we'll do everything in our
power to meet their needs -- using enhanced search features to find
the listings they want, and even the address and zip code, if that's
what they need.`

AT&T `00` INFO takes directory assistance to a higher level of
customer service, providing a renewed emphasis on personal service
that is supported by several new search capabilities: -- A new
expanded search capability allows AT&T information assistants to
extend a directory search to surrounding communities when they can't
find a requested listing in a designated city or town - even if the
caller doesn't know what those communities are.  -- A key word search
function allows AT&T information assistants to search for a business
listing when the caller doesn't know the full or exact name of the
business.  This search will find the listing if the key word appears
anywhere in the name.

AT&T's new `00` INFO Service makes it easier for callers to use
directory assistance.  They no longer need to remember multiple
numbers for directory assistance.  And they don't need to know the
area code.  Customers need only dial one simple number to reach an
AT&T information assistant who will help them find telephone listings
anywhere in the United States.

During the market trial, AT&T is offering the new AT&T `00` INFO
Service at the same 95-cent price that it charges for conventional
directory assistance.  With `00` INFO Service customers can get
unlimited listings per call, but pay 95-cents for every two listings.

AT&T customers in the five test markets can use `00` INFO from their
home phones, or when they are away from home, by dialing 1-800-CALL-ATT.

The AT&T `00` INFO directory assistance service trial is limited to
listings in the United States.

------------------------------

From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Radio Vigilantes
Date: 22 Sep 1997 13:05:19 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Our Moderator noted in reply:

> I think back to the olden days of Citizens Band Radio when it was in
> its glory and how after periods of massive interference and static
> caused by CB'ers operating illegally certain vigilantes would go out
> late at night to use triangulation to locate the offender. When
> located, indeed the response was pretty ugly.

> Antennas would be toppled over, the coaxial cable would be sliced in
> several pieces; if possible, the vigilantes would gain entrance to the
> premises and totally destroy the radio. By the time it was finished
> and the vigilantes left, the illegal CB-er would be wishing it was the
> FCC which had raided him instead."

There are reports out of Elkhart, Indiana, that two people who have
taken a dislike to the operators of a local amateur radio repeater
have been devising some ingenious ways of jamming it (as opposed to
just transmitting jamming signals from their own location).  For one
thing, they put small jammer transmitters inside beach balls and left
them at the beach.  In another incident, they bought a new TV set from
Wal-Mart, installed a jammer inside, repacked it and returned it for a
refund; Wal-Mart then resold the TV to an innocent customer who didn't
know that he was "interfering with" emergency communications. Supposedly 
one of their jammers even included a seismometer to shut it down if it
detected people walking near it (say, with direction-finding receivers).

The Elkhart police know who these characters are but have no jurisdiction 
in the case; there has been no word on any action by the FCC.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Elkhart police most certainly would
have jurisdiction in some aspects of it. The incident with the television
set which was tampered with and returned constitutes fraud against
Wal-Mart and the re-buyer of the merchandise. The behavior in general
of the individuals involved would also most certainly qualify as
disorderly conduct and the Elkhart police could act on that as well. 
Furthermore, police are charged with the duty of enforcing *all laws*
whether of a local, state or federal nature, however they would of
course refer a federal matter to federal authorities.    PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 97 11:36:32 +0100
From: Tara D. Mahon <tara@insight-corp.com>
Subject: Insight on ABC's 20/20


Hi Pat and list,

Insight Research is pleased to announce that Michael French, our VP of
Market Research, will be appearing on the Thursday night edition of
ABC's award-winning 20/20 news magazine program.

Mr. French was interviewed as an expert on telecom fraud.  The
segment, to be aired next Thursday, September 25, is reported by 20/20
correspondent Arnold Diaz.  Please check your local listings for
channel and time (20/20 airs 10pm EST).

Insight Research would be pleased to discuss the issue of telecom
fraud, the opportunities to control it, and how it may apply to your
strategic plans.  For further discussions, please contact Michael
French at (973) 605-1400, or via e-mail at michael@mf.insight-corp.com.


Regards,

Tara D. Mahon                         tara@tm.insight-corp.com
The Insight Research Corporation          www.insight-corp.com
Gatehall I, One Gatehall Dr.                973-605-1400 phone
Parsippany, NJ 07054                          973-605-1440 fax

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:17:27 -0400
From: mcctest@aol.com (Mike Fine)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Call for International Testers


CALL FOR BETA TEST PARTICIPANTS

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people to participate in a Beta Test.  This test will test the new x2
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Qualified Applicants must have the following:

 -Laptop Computer with PCMCIA or Cardbus Slot
 -Complete Internet Access including FTP, WWW, and E-Mail
 -Understanding of modem technology
 -Ability to dedicate time to testing

Acceptance into our test program provides the following benefits:

 -Test the latest in technology
 -Opportunity to keep the product
 -Opportunity to participate in other tests

Please visit the following web site no later than 09/26/97 and
complete an application:

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For more information, please contact:

Mike Fine
Beta Test Supervisor
3Com Corporation
Mobile Communications Division
E-mail:	mfine@mhz.com
Voice:	801-320-7561
Fax:	801-320-6009

 -Test Participants will be expected to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement
 -Testing is Global. Participation is open to residents of the following
  countries:

Canada		Argentina
Australia	Austria		Belgium
Bolivia		Brazil		Chile
China		Colombia 	Costa Rica
Czech Republic	Denmark		Ecuador
Egypt		Finland		France
Germany		Greece		Hong Kong	
Hungary		Iceland		India
Indonesia 	Ireland		Israel
Italy		Japan		Luxembourg
Mexico		Netherlands	New Zealand
North Korea	Norway		Peru
Philippines	Poland		Portugal
Romania		CIS		Saudi Arabia
Singapore	South Africa	South Korea
Spain		Sweden		Switzerland	
Taiwan		Thailand        Yugoslavia
United Kingdom	Venezuela

------------------------------

From: Thad Jacobs <tjacobs@iasi.com>
Subject: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index?
Organization: IAS
Date: 22 Sep 97 17:43:29 GMT


Is there an online location to obtain, new and existing NPA and NXX's
by state for the whole country?  Is there a list of new ones to come
and when their proposed effective date is as well?

------------------------------

From: Marc Baime <mbaime1@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:27:05 -0400
Organization: Road Runner


If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to get
and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable modem.  Can
both machines run at the same time?  Do I need a multiplexer? A hub?
Where does the cable need to be split? Before coming into the cable
modem? Coming out of the cable modem?  

I have a NEC2000 ethernet card I used to use for a two PC Novell lan
that I had set up in my home ... can I use this card?  Are there any
books on this subject? Any literature on the web?  All replies
appreciated.  Please respond to mbaime1@tampabay.rr.com with any
information on this subject.  Probably be nice if you responded to the
group also as I'm sure many inquiring minds would like to know.


Thanks in advance,

Marc Baime

------------------------------

From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 03:28:18 GMT


bowenb@best.com (William H. Bowen) writes:

>  BTW, I still think the only thing that will dissuade Spamford and
> his ilk is a direct physical attack (a commando raid) on his operation
> and put it out of business. A little drastic maybe, but, as the Sean
> Connery character said in the movie "The Untouchables": "if he brings
> a knife, you bring a gun. If he puts one of yours in the hospital, put
> one of his in the morgue".

     I suggest simply redirecting any spam you get from anybody,
especially if it has any forged address information, or any hint of a
false health claim or other scam, to the new Federal Trade Commmission
spam reporting point, "uce@ftc.gov".  The FTC has the power to take
action, so send them the evidence they need to do so.


John Nagle

------------------------------

From: Bruce Pennypacker <pennypacker@altech.noagis.com>
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 22 Sep 1997 13:33:37 GMT
Organization: Applied Language Technologies


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What a rotten shame! So is Spamford
> still out of service or has he managed to snooker other ISP's and/or
> networks, etc into handling his nasty traffic? I wondered why my
> inbox had so little spam when I checked it early today, and now I
> know. Whoever was doing the pinging which caused this to happen, you
> have the heartiest congratulations of net-people everywhere.  PAT]

Pat,

The latest I gathered from reading through the weekend of posts in
news.admin.net-abuse.email is that Cyberpromo was kicked off a total
of four ISP's in 24 hours (some sort of record?) and currently isn't
getting connectivity through anybody.  Just try accessing
http://www.cyberpromo.com and you'll see.

There's an article on this at
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,14429,00.html?latest that gives some
details.  According to AGIS themselves, Cyberpromo, Quantum, and NacyNet
were all kicked off for "security issues" and not this ping attack that has
been reported.  Check out the AGIS network operation at
http://www.agis.net/outages.htm to see what little AGIS has said about it.

The rumors are flying about why AGIS did this, and so far it doesn't
appear that there are a lot of facts.  I'm sure that all the details
well be posted here as well as on news.admin.net-abuse.email as well
as other places as quickly as we all learn them.

By the way, the Cyberpromo parody page at
http://members.aol.com/macabrus/thyberpromo.html has also been updated as a
result of this new chapter in the saga of spam.


Bruce


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried to connect just now with
www.cyberpromo.com and it just sat there for several minutes until
I finally broke the connection.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: kjpodsia@spd.dsccc.com (Kevin Podsiadlik)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:01:28 CDT


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What a rotten shame! So is Spamford
> still out of service or has he managed to snooker other ISP's and/or
> networks, etc into handling his nasty traffic?

Oh, Spamford had backup plans all right.  After AGIS dropped him, he
went over to Digex.  Then he went to Sprint.  (Might have been Sprint
then Digex ...) Then he went to BBN Planet.  The game of Internet Hot
Potato ended with Wallace getting dropped by four different backbone
providers in a span of 24 hours, a record which may well never be
broken.

A moment for the Internet history books, to be sure.


Kevin Podsiadlik                       DSC Communications Corporation
Internet: kjpodsia@spd.dsccc.com       1000 Coit Road, Plano, Texas 75075


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Congratulations to the pholks who made
it happen with their constant pinging, etc. But will it last? Will he
be back in a day or three, meaner than ever?  Let's watch and see.  PAT]

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TELECOM Digest     Wed, 24 Sep 97 02:46:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 258

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index? (Paula Pettis)
    Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index? (G.L. Waltman)
    Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index? (Eric B. Morson)
    Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index? (Ken Dulin)
    Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index? (Linc Madison)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Ray Morian)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Louis Raphael)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Trey Valenta)
    Re: Tonight's Monday Night Bandwidth Chat 7-8PM Pacific Time (Dan Seyb)
    Re: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance (Stan Cline)
    Re: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance (Ed Ellers)
    Re: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance (John Grout)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (John R. Levine)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Leonid A. Broukhis)
    Re: Radio Vigilantes (James Bellaire)
    Re: MedicAlert and 209 Split (jf@oxy.edu)
    I've Fallen, and I Can't Get Up! (Harry Bowman)

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From: Paula Pettis <stuff@gdi.net>
Subject: Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index?
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 20:28:12 -0400


Reply to Thad Jacobs:

Please check out our website.  We have all of the existing NXX's but not the
future ones.

We update our software every month from the FCC tariff number 4.

Paula Pettis
Stuff Software
1249 Silver Palm Drive
Altamonte Springs, FL 32714
Voice: (407) 290-2301
Fax: (407) 290-0079
http://www.stuffsoftware.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would like to point out that Paula
Pettis has been a long-time regular supporter of the Digest and she
maintains a link via the Telecom Archives web page which is well
worth the time you might spend to take a look at the services her
company offers. Her area code lists mentioned above are very complete
and accurate.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: G. L. Waltman <WALTMAGL@apci.com>
Subject: Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index?
Date: 23 Sep 1997 17:46:20 GMT
Organization: Air Products and Chemicals


Bellcore offers a good amount of information at
http://www.bellcore.com/NANP/index.html

The information is updated monthly.

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:22:37 -0400
From: Eric B. Morson <EasyE@netaxis.com>
Reply-To: EasyE1@aol.com
vSubject: Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index?


The most comprehensive NPA/NXX site is run by my friend John Cropper in
NJ. His URL is  http://www.lincs.net/areacode.htm


Eric B. Morson
EasyE1@aol.com

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From: Ken Dulin <kend@archtelecom.com>
Subject: Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index?
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:43:17 -0500
Organization: Arch Telecom, Inc.
Reply-To: kend@archtelecom.com


Thad Jacobs wrote:

> Is there an online location to obtain, new and existing NPA and NXX's
> by state for the whole country?  Is there a list of new ones to come
> and when their proposed effective date is as well?

Your information is at http://www.bellcore.com/NANP/update97.html


Ken Dulin
Arch Telecom, Inc.
kend@(badspammer)archtelecom.com remove (badspammer) to email
http://www.archtelecom.com

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: New and Existing NPA/NXX Index?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:51:53 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom17.257.10@telecom-digest.org>, Thad Jacobs
<tjacobs@iasi.com> wrote:

> Is there an online location to obtain, new and existing NPA and NXX's
> by state for the whole country?  Is there a list of new ones to come
> and when their proposed effective date is as well?

There are several.  My web pages at < http://www.best.com/~eureka/telecom >
focus on the new area codes and their mandatory effective dates, although
I'm in the process of preparing a comprehensive listing by state and city,
and some other new features, along with updating the basic info.  (I just
returned from a two-month vacation, so the pages are still on the July
update.)

John Cropper, a frequent contributor here, maintains web pages at
< http://www.lincs.net >  (That's an acronym LINCS; no relation to my
name.)  He has all area codes listed in a variety of sorting orders,
and information about definite, proposed, and speculated future changes.

Both pages also provide a variety of links to other sources.


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com
  >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:32:16 -0700
From: Ray Morian <zbevna@znvy.tybonyfreir.arg>
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack


>> Letter to Cyber Promotions' customers by Sanford Wallace, President...
>
>> Dear Customers,

8< bunch of Spamford's whining deleted >8


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What a rotten shame! So is Spamford
> still out of service or has he managed to snooker other ISP's and/or
> networks, etc into handling his nasty traffic? I wondered why my
> inbox had so little spam when I checked it early today, and now I
> know. Whoever was doing the pinging which caused this to happen, you
> have the heartiest congratulations of net-people everywhere.  PAT]

I agree totally with you Pat! :) I also called AGIS's NOC and engineer 
as listed on the email and congratulated them :) ... 

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well now, I certainly cannot condone
> any unlawful activities, which I guess would cover a commando raid on
> Spamford's heaquarters, busting up his computers, tearing down all his
> circuits, etc. I mean, I would not be surprised to see it happen one
> of these days/nights, knowing human nature as I do, and knowing how
> *really bitter and angry* a lot of netters are over his antics, but I
> still cannot and would not condone it. Violence is never an answer to
> the problems of the net. 8< snip >8 ]

True, but humans being humans, the worst qualities of some people do 
tend to show through.


Ray

** From and reply-to headers ROT-13'd to discourage other spammers **

Morian -- morian@globalserve.net --
http://www.globalserve.net/~morianFinger for copyright
statement/disclaimer & PGP public key.

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From: raphael@willy.cs.mcgill.ca (Louis Raphael)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 23 Sep 1997 02:11:53 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre


Kevin Podsiadlik (kjpodsia@spd.dsccc.com) wrote:

> A moment for the Internet history books, to be sure.

Indeed. Maybe, just *maybe*, a serious dent in the spam problem will
be made. A few weeks ago, I had given up on the Internet, having
decided to filter out what I could until the soon-to-come end. Now, I
think that there may be a bit of hope - I've started complaining to
spammers admins (etc) again. I'm also including my last twenty days
worth of spam as a free "gift" to spammers whose addresses I can
figure out for *sure*. It comes standard with an offer for a permanent
subscription, to be activated by the sending of a second UCE. So far,
no takers. No remove mechanism is provided, as subscription is
strictly voluntary ... :-)

------------------------------

From: trey@zipcon.net (Trey Valenta)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 23 Sep 1997 23:09:54 GMT
Organization: Alternate Access Inc.


In <telecom17.257.12@telecom-digest.org> nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
writes:

>     I suggest simply redirecting any spam you get from anybody,
> especially if it has any forged address information, or any hint of a
> false health claim or other scam, to the new Federal Trade Commmission
> spam reporting point, "uce@ftc.gov".  The FTC has the power to take
> action, so send them the evidence they need to do so.

I suggest you DON'T do this. I can't find the article now, but the FTC
recently put out a statement that the large numbers of people who were
doing this is putting severe strain on the systems. Seems many have set
their procmail scripts to do forwarding on any suspected UCE/spam.
According to the FTC, they don't want to see the messages unless it's
definately fraud related and overall abuse will result in them pulling
the plug on the address or tracking the person down who is flooding
their systms.

I'll still look to see if I can find this post.


Trey Valenta	trey@zipcon.net	 Seattle, WA

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Tonight's Monday Night Bandwidth Chat 7-8PM Pacific Time
Reply-To: d.seyb@telesciences.com
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:52:07 -0400
From: Dan Seyb <dseyb@telesciences.com>


Egad, Pat.

I can kind of forgive the fact i didn't see the notice of the Monday
night chat until Tuesday morning.  From the header, the email reached
me around 9PM yesterday.  If I had been at work then, and I had read
the mail immediately, I could have participated.

What really annoyed me was the URL they listed for more information.
(http://207.68.136.82/bandwidth/category1/forum5/cool/focus.htm)

When I tried to view it, a popup window asked for an id and password.
Their option, but I don't play that game.

But that password window would NOT go away.  I hit Cancel.  The window
came back.  I hit Ok.  I got an error message window.  I hit Cancel on
that window.  The original password window came back.  I hit Ok again.
The error window came back.  I tried Ok this time.  The password window
came back.  Repeat until tired of it.

I finally gave up and killed the entire session.

Kind of a shame, too.  If wireless access was wide spread and priced
even reasonably close to wired modems, I would definitely be
interested, and so would several of my friends.


dan

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The timing on that message was really
strange. I got it just three or four hours before the on-line meeting
was due to start (I think about 6 pm central time) and probably would
have not used it at all except that I was in the process of working
on an issue of the Digest and figured that if I got it out right away
probably a third to half the readers would see it in time if they
cared to participate. I wish I had gotten a little more advance notice
on it. I did not bother to go check the web page but just pushed it
out ASAP in the issue then being prepared. I sort of appended it to
the issue then in preparation. PAT]

------------------------------

From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 02:00:58 GMT
Organization: missing
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:58:27 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth
<jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> wrote:

>     AT&T on Monday began testing its new ``00'' Info national directory
>     assistance service in Minneapolis, Seattle, Phoenix, Denver and
>     Portland, Ore.
<snip>
> Um, does AT&T not realize that "00" is _taken_ as a dialable?

They are also offering this from the Atlanta area.  I just dialed 00
(I'm PICed to AT&T) to check some rates for intraLATA calls for
someone, and I was prompted with the usual options, plus this one:

"For double-oh Info US Directory, press or say one"

Also, I heard "For international directory assistance, press or say
two".  We all know how much AT&T charges for international DA ...

It seems that AT&T is getting more and more gimmicky with calls to
"00" -- every time I call for rates or other information, I'm asked if
I want to have a call placed at the operator-HANDLED [high] rates.
Then the voice-mail jail (say this, press that), and now this.

For the record, I no longer use AT&T for LD DA, and haven't for
several months -- I use LCI International on a casual-call basis
(101-0432+) instead.


Stanley Cline                         somewhere near Atlanta, GA, USA
roamer1(at)pobox.com               http://scline.home.mindspring.com/
spam not wanted here!    help outlaw spam - see http://www.cauce.org/

------------------------------

From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance
Date: 23 Sep 1997 01:53:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Jay R. Ashworth <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> wrote:

'Um, does AT&T not realize that "00" is _taken_ as a dialable?'

All this means is that AT&T will now provide DA to callers who reach an
AT&T operator by dialing 00.  (Personally, I think Bellcore should have
standardized 211 for the IXC operator, but who said they had a sense of
history?)

------------------------------

From: j-grout@ehsn5.cen.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout)
Subject: Re: Here We Go _Again_ ... AT&T National Directory Assistance
Date: 22 Sep 1997 20:53:37 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Reply-To: john.grout@reasoning.com


Jay R. Ashworth <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> writes:

> The following article was seen on the AP wire, and is included here for
> commentary, under the fair use provision of US Copyright law.

>      AT&T on Monday began testing its new ``00'' Info national directory
>      assistance service in Minneapolis, Seattle, Phoenix, Denver and
>      Portland, Ore.

>      By dialing ``00'' customers in those areas will be able to obtain
>      telephone listings for any place in the United States - even if
>      they don't know the area code or city.

> Um, does AT&T not realize that "00" is _taken_ as a dialable?

Yes, it is ... it's a way to reach an IXC operator (though probably
not one customer in twenty knows that, especially AT&T's customers,
whom it has swaddled with catch phrases like "always dial 1-800-CALL-ATT").

Since "00" is already a dialing loophole which allows people to reach
the long-distance network (and the possibility of making a billable
long-distance call on lines which haven't been designated in advance
as unbillable), it should already be blocked by institutions who want
to rigidly control or eliminate long-distance calls.

My former employer, the University of Illinois, was sensitive enough
to the possibility of fraud and unauthorized billing to designate its
lines as unbillable (relatively common, I believe) _and_ to limit
direct access to the network (via PIC's) to the "big three" IXCs
(AT&T, MCI, Sprint), whom it trusted enough to not present it with
unwanted charges (either via 10xxx+0+<ten digits> or 10xxx+00).

If AT&T is trying another end-run around these sorts of institutional
billing controls, I believe it will be even more quickly stomped than
their last effort (an egregious attempt to use a toll-free dialing
prefix) ... and I hope it would cost them some angry institutional
customers.


John R. Grout			john.grout@reasoning.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, having 00 available for all
users should not pose any real problems as long as billed number
screening is in place. The operator may answer without looking closely
at the computer screen but as soon as she attempts to forward the
call the computer will refuse to do so; the operator will not be able
to get rid of the call lacking some acceptable (third number, collect
or credit card) billing. And if the caller says 'collect' she won't
be able to push the call out if the distant end also has billed 
number screening in place. Naturally this assumes the long distance
carrier subscribes to the database of billing-denied numbers or has
one of their own; but is there anyone anywhere whose 00 defaults to
Integratel? <grin> ... PAT]

------------------------------

Date: 23 Sep 1997 05:53:53 -0000
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


> If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to get
> and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable modem. 

The short answer is "you can't".  The cable modem is a modem that
plugs into a single PC and gives you a single IP address.

The slightly longer answer is that there are systems that let your
entire network hide behind a single IP address, doing translation on
the fly.  (The three-letter acronym is NAT.)  Dedicated NAT boxes tend
to be expensive but you might be able to find freeware for Linux.

If you can get NAT set up, you'd plug the cable modem into the box
running NAT, then connect all the other computers to that one using a
regular Ethernet separate from the cable modem.  If this sounds like
it's more trouble than it's worth, you're probably right.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com, Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4  2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47 

------------------------------

From: leob@best.com (Leonid A. Broukhis)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: 23 Sep 1997 16:21:54 -0700


Marc Baime <mbaime1@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to get
> and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable modem.  Can
> both machines run at the same time?  Do I need a multiplexer? A hub?
> Where does the cable need to be split? Before coming into the cable
> modem? Coming out of the cable modem?  

The safest way to do it without violating the contract with the ISP is
to install the second network interface card in your computer.  A hub
connected to the cable modem will not do it, because if you connect
more than one computer to a hub, you'll have unauthorized nodes in the
segment.


Leo

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:10:50 -0500
From: James Bellaire <bellaire@tk.com>
Subject: Re: Radio Vigilantes



Ed Ellers <kd4awq@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> There are reports out of Elkhart, Indiana, that two people who have
> taken a dislike to the operators of a local amateur radio repeater
> have been devising some ingenious ways of jamming it (as opposed to
> just transmitting jamming signals from their own location).  For one
> thing, they put small jammer transmitters inside beach balls and left
> them at the beach.  In another incident, they bought a new TV set from
> Wal-Mart, installed a jammer inside, repacked it and returned it for a
> refund; Wal-Mart then resold the TV to an innocent customer who didn't
> know that he was "interfering with" emergency communications.
> Supposedly one of their jammers even included a seismometer to shut it
> down if it detected people walking near it (say, with direction-finding 
> receivers).

The repeater in question is on the tower of a 50kW ERP FM station south
of town.  The repeater is used for Elkhart County SKYWARN, which provides
severe storm spotting and disaster relief.

Jammers have been found all over the place, including in the woods across
the street from the tower site, floating in the Elkhart River, and hung on
one of the AM towers in the array next to the FM.  The perpatrators have
trespassed on both the transmitter site and on private property near it.
And they have been doing this occasional blocking for more than a year,
usually using small transmitters in sandwitch sized containers.

Local news reports have been sketchy.  There has been coverage on South
Bend TV Stations as well as in newspapers.  But it is not a daily issue.
A related report about a CBer in South Bend, who has a large power amp
and kills most of his neighbor's TV, Portable Phones, and Radios (not to
mention a church PA system) talking to his trucker buddies was aired last
month.  The local police reported him to the FCC and that was it.  No local
action has been taken.  (He still has all of his equipment.)

> The Elkhart police know who these characters are but have no jurisdiction
> in the case; there has been no word on any action by the FCC.

The repeater is outside of Elkhart City, so I must assume that you mean
Elkhart County Police.  Both Wal-Marts in Elkhart County are in Goshen,
once again a job for County or State police (or Goshen City Police on that
one part of the issue).

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Elkhart police most certainly
> would have jurisdiction in some aspects of it. The incident with the
> television set which was tampered with and returned constitutes fraud
> against Wal-Mart and the re-buyer of the merchandise. The behavior in
> general of the individuals involved would also most certainly qualify
> as disorderly conduct and the Elkhart police could act on that as
> well.

Proof is the hard part.  They would need to trace the exact television
that was bought, returned and resold AND prove that the tampering was
done by the people who returned it.  Actually seeing these guys place
a transmitter would be handy too.  Their tampering is spread out enough
that most of the leads die off before the next incident.

I would love to see these guys caught and punished.  But it needs to
be proven otherwise they will just walk away.

> Furthermore, police are charged with the duty of enforcing *all
> laws* whether of a local, state or federal nature, however they would
> of course refer a federal matter to federal authorities.  PAT]

I wonder what level the federal authorities would place this at?


James E. Bellaire (JEB6)                                bellaire@tk.com
Telecom Indiana Webpage    http://members.iquest.net/~bellaire/telecom/
* Note new server - old URL should still work *


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Back in the 1970's there were a lot of
guys with the knowledge and equipment to convert CB radios into ten-
meter transceivers. They would buy new radios a dozen or so at a time
in stores like Wal-Mart where the clerks had no idea how the radio was
supposed to work and didn't care anyway after first ascertaining that
the model being sold was using the Motorola 02-A programmable chip for
channel selection. They would take these new radios back to their 
bench and 'do the mods', meaning they would cut a couple traces on the
circuit board, add a jumper here and there, tweak a couple of the
trim-pots to get the radio to oscillate properly at a greatly expanded
coverage range and then sell these units to the general public with
something like 80-120 'channels' or frequencies instead of the 40
authorized by the FCC. Guys who were good at it and had decent circuitry
to work with and a very steady hand to adjust the trim-pots could
get those radios to oscillate all the way up in ten meters, and
clear down in many cases to the low 26-megs territory. 

Illegal as hell, but those modified units sold like hotcakes on the
street. Well, accidents would happen now and then; the pirate tech-
nician would forget to check his solder maybe, or leave the slightest
bit of wire in contact somewhere it should not be and the chip in 
the radio would get blown to kingdom come ... but not to worry, the
pirates had a solution for that also. They would *carefully* remove
the parts they wanted from the damaged radio and inventory them for
use in *other* radios. Then they would *carefully* put the case back
together so it appeared it had never been opened, put it back in the
original carton, and take it with their receipt back to the store
to get their money back or (more likely) a new radio. At Wal-Mart
or K-Mart or wherever, the disinterested and not too bright sixteen
year old clerk would just mark the unit 'defective' and toss it in
a pile with others and give the customer his money back or a new
radio.

The pirate techs would not try this too often at Radio Shack; the
clerks at Radio Shack after all would hand out xeroxed instructions
for the mods about the time the customer was walking out the door
with his new radio ("oh here, some customer left this 'hobbyist'
guide to radios on the counter in case anyone wanted one ...")
which were always anonymously written, etc on typewriters with
a couple of crude drawings/sketches showing where the jumpers were
to be attached and the traces cut. If you went back to Radio Shack
the next day with a unit that 'seems to be defective' you better
bet the clerk would stare you right in the face and tell you what
you were full of. If the clerk himself was corrupt he'd snicker,
toss the radio in the defects pile and give you a new one but
some clerks would quickly stamp the phrase "as is, no refunds"
on the customer's reciept and tell him that was so he could not go
to some other RS store and 'try to hand them the same line of
bull you just gave me ...' sending the pirate away with the
junky radio. 

Whatever; a certain number of radios whether via Wal-Mart, Radio Shack
or some discount store found their way back to Japan or Hong Kong or
China to the one factory where all radios are made despite the brand
name on the unit. Stores everywhere would return the 'defective units'
for credit. Imagine then quality control inspectors in Japan opening
up the radios and looking inside to 'see what was wrong' ... Japanese
man takes off the cover, peers inside, flabbergasted, says to his
co-workers at the factory, "Holy Chr---! Look at this! How did this
peice of junk get passed quality control inspection? No heat sink, no
zenner diode, no final, no knobs on the front! " ... Because of
course whoever had 'done the mods' on that radio and blew it up in the
process had cannibalized what was left on the circuit board to use in
other radios he was repairing and then boxed it back up and took it
to the teeny-bopper at the customer service counter at the mall to
get a refund, and with a straight face yet. 

Finally the number of pirate radios in service got to be such a joke
with people telling others openly 'you got channel 72 on your radio?
I'll meet you there ...' that the FCC finally got sore about it. Any
attempt to police individual users operating 'out of band' on the
pirate frequencies was in vain. The FCC's response was one day to
go to Motorola with a formal demand that they cease production of
the 02-A chip. They also went to Fort Worth to meet with Radio Shack
executives and told them to get their sales clerks to 'can the crap'
and quit giving out illegal mod sheets 'under some thinly disguised
BS having to do with the First Amendment and free speech.' Both
Motorola and Radio Shack were threatened by the FCC with large fines
and lots of grief if they did not comply. In Radio Shack's case,
within a couple days the word went from Ft. Worth to the stores that
there was never again to be any discussion of 'the mods'. The rule
was, talk about the mods and you'll get fired. Within a year or so
all new CB Radios had their frequency selection/tuning stuff in
ROM (read only memory) chips and in the case of Radio Shack, with
a checksum kind of thing where you could hack all you wanted, but
if the checksum did not match the radio would just remain silent.

In those years, I had a Uniden CB with a device called a 'digi-scan'
attached with a ribbon connector in place of the usual channel
selector knob. The Uniden radios could be expanded to six hundred
channels. Those were great days -- or nights perhaps, as I seldom
got on the radio much before midnight -- and like today's internet,
once the general public found out about CB radio then shortly after
that (with Johnny Cash's song) it was ruined for everyone.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: jf@oxy.edu
Subject: Re: MedicAlert and 209 Split
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:45:55 -0800
Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net
Reply-To: jf@oxy.edu


Why can't MedicAlert just purchase remote-call forwarding or 
foreign-exchange lines or work out something with the phone company?  
What am I missing here?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:01:33 -0400
From: Harry Bowman <hlb6@cornell.edu>
Subject: I've Fallen, and I Can't Get Up!


There seems to be some confusion about what Medic Alert's
product is.  The "I've Fallen, and I Can't Get Up" gadget is marketed
under the brand name "Lifecall".   They appear to be sold in Canada,
according to a web search, by VOXCOM Security Systems.

	The Medic Alert Foundation is a nonprofit, tax exempt
corporation and therefore probably doesn't advertize on TV.  There is
a contact number on their web page (1-800-736-3342) for information.

	Their Director of Communications has two numbers listed, one
of which is (209) 668-3333.  I assume that means I have the right
people.

	The page I found is at:

http://www.social.com/health/nhic/data/hr0400/hr0494.html.

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    AT&T '00' Directory and Other AT&T 'Gimmicks' (Mark J. Cuccia)
    559 Announced For 209 Split (John Cropper)
    Slammed - Fraud? (Charles Beatty)
    Security Alarm Problem Due to Area Code Change (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Patrick Tufts)

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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 15:47:01 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: AT&T '00' Directory and Other AT&T 'Gimmicks'


The New Orleans area does _NOT_ yet have this AT&T '00' Directory.
When I dial '00' from a line 'PICd' to AT&T (or 10(10)288+0(#/0) from
any non-restricted line), I route via the Jackson MS AT&T #5ESS OSPS
switch (601-0T, JCSNMSPS06T), where I hear the AT&T 'sparkle' jingle
with audio brand/logo. I then hear the recorded instructions to enter
the number I wish to call, or for an operator -- to enter '0' or say
'Operator'. (The 'live' operators that I reach can be located anywhere
along the southern part of the east coast, from Maryland to Florida --
i.e. BellAtlantic's old C&P territory or BellSouth's old Southern Bell
territory).

But I understand that the AT&T OSPS switch which serves Minneapolis MN
(in the US West territory), 515-0T, in Des Moines IA, is now giving
the option to enter/say '1' for Directory Assistance, upon dialing an
AT&T '00' Operator. A friend in Minneapolis 'three-wayed' me to his AT&T
'00' code, so I could hear the new prompts AT&T is now giving.

AND FROM WHAT HE TOLD ME, THIS DIRECTORY OPTION (for lookups of US
numbers) is HANDLED BY ***EXCELL-AGENCY***, and is _NOT_ the AT&T OSPS
operator initially reached searching a database or verifying listings
from the far-end genuine-Bell/LEC 'inward' directory operator!

OKAY ... so here is yet ANOTHER gimmick from AT&T! :(

BTW, when AT&T's operators connect to directory operators outside of
the NANP (i.e. 'international' and overseas countries) it now costs
anywhere from $7.00 to $10.00, depending on the country! :(

Maybe the ITU should develop a standard number, similar to the NANP's
555-1212, which would work in _any_ participating country's code, for
customers around the world to _dial_ to a directory assistance
operator in the far-end country's LEC!

Stan Cline (roamer1@pobox.com) is CERTAINLY correct that AT&T is
getting more and more 'gimmicky' about a lot of things. And IMO, there
are a lot of 'bugs' in these new gimmick services. Let's see, there's:

"True" (?) Messages
International-Redial
Directory-Link
and others

I'm not going to go into any detail on the above three named services,
as I've gone into detail on the problems associated with them in past
issues of TELECOM Digest.

Unfortunately, if one doesn't need or want one of these new features
or services to intrude on a call-setup, it can be difficult -- even
IMPOSSIBLE to have the prompts turned off for your calling-card or
line. I have been successful in having the prompts turned off for
Directory-Link from my line (for 1+ calls), however I have not been
able to have AT&T turn off the prompts on outgoing calls billed to my
AT&T or BellSouth calling card numbers, such as for when placing calls
to (Canadian/Caribbean) NPA-555-1212 when I'm not at home.

International Redial (on my home line, 1+) could have been a nice AT&T
feature, but its prompts came in on (non-suping) calls to numbers
being intercepted by the far-end LEC with a new number referral. I
finally had to have AT&T turn off International Redial from my home
line. Presently, True-Message prompts don't intrude 1+ calls dialed
from my home line, but I have not been successful in having it turned
off on my outgoing calls billed to my AT&T/LEC calling card numbers,
nor having True-Message prompts being disabled on any AT&T-handled
incoming calls to my line, since I have forwarding to cellular, as
well as voicemail on my line, therefore True-Message prompts to the
calling party aren't necessary!

While many LECs are offering "if called-line is busy/unanswered you
can record-a-message for delayed delivery, for-a-FEE" services/prompts
similar to AT&T's True-Messages (on 'direct-dialed' local and
intra-LATA calls), the LEC-provided services is usually something that
one can turn-off on a per-call or per-line basis from a particular
line with an end-office-based *XX/11XX code (I think it is *02/1102
and *03/1103). But AT&T's True-Messages is a bit different, as it is
based on the OSPS operator switch, and its prompts intrude on calling
card calls when not at home.

As for AT&T's choice of routing to directory assistance for (US) 
NPA-555-1212, I think that AT&T is now routing to Excell-Agency
(instead of the genuine called-end Bell/LEC directory operator for
calls to _MOST_ (US) NPAs on 555-1212 calls. This now includes AT&T
handled calls to Alaska, 907-555-1212. I'm not sure about Hawaii,
whether AT&T is routing to Excell (or some other contract agency) or
rather continuing to route to GTE-Hawaii; I don't know if AT&T-handled
calls to CT's 203 and 860 directory continues to route to SNET
directory or if it now routes to Excell; Neither do I know if AT&T
continues to route to Cincinnati Bell on AT&T handled calls to
513-555-1212, or if AT&T now routes to Excel.

I do know that AT&T does _NOT_ route the following LECs anymore when
a customer dials 555-1212 for one of those LEC's NPAs: US West,
Pac*Bell/Nevada*Bell and Southwestern Bell, Bell Atlantic and NYNEX,
but rather routes to Excel. (However in the case of AT&T-handled calls
to 555-1212 for Bell Atlantic's old C&P states/NPAs [MD, DC, VA, WVa],
the routing is to CFW, which is a genuine incumbent _independent_ LEC,
located in the Virginia area. CFW is supposed to have access to the
actual BellAtlantic directory database). I assume that AT&T-handled
calls to an Ameritech NPA for 555-1212 is also now routing to Excel,
but I don't know for certain.

Therefore, while I do place the vast majority of my traffic via AT&T,
I am now placing _ALL_ calls to directory (outside of my local Bell
South area 1/0-411) via Sprint, as 10(10)333+1+NPA-555-1212 (when
dialing from home), or via one of several Sprint 800- access numbers,
and billing to my Sprint FON-cards or one of my BellSouth calling-cards.

AT&T _DOES_ continue to route calls to the genuine LEC directory
operator for Canada's NPAs on 555-1212 (it seems that Excel doesn't
even try to (mis)compile Canadian data. And for the Caribbean NPA(s),
AT&T routes 555-1212 to either its "AT&T, What Island, Please?"
intercept-and-route (and monitor the connection) operator; or they are
beginning to route Caribbean NPAs (except for 809 itself) 555-1212
directly to the island's directory operator itself. And AT&T routes
670-555-1212 to the Northern Mariana's own directory operator, and
671-555-1212 to Guam's own directory operator.

Other 'gimmicks' of AT&T that I don't like ...

When I dial '00' from a line 'PICd' to AT&T, or 10(10)288+0(#/0), I
would prefer to go LIVE AND DIRECT to a HUMAN BEING who answers the
line. I do NOT like having to hear a litany of menu-prompts (even
though I can DTMF enter '0' to cut-thru), nor those _pre-recorded_
generic male and female voices:

"AT&T, How may I help you?"
"AT&T, What is the number you are calling from?"
"AT&T, the overtime charge is ..."
"Thank You"
etc.

Nor do I like the inquiry from the operator (as Stan mentions), "Would
you like for me to place a call for you at the OPERATOR-HANDLED rate?"

NO!

I'm only calling the operator for a nameplace, a rate, an area code or
dialing instructions, etc. I am still going to dial the call MYSELF,
and SAVE! And if I am having trouble getting through, I would like it
to be the way it was up until about five years ago ... _IF_ I explain
to the AT&T operator that there is a trouble condition, she would
handle the call for me, but at the cheaper customer-dialed rates. But
OH NO, they don't seem to want to do it that way anymore! :(

Of course, if all of the operator 'teams' are all busy, I can
understand a pre-recorded message coming on the line and stating that
all operator positions are busy at the moment, and to continue to hold
for the next available operator. But _I_ still want '00' (or similar)
to route to a live person, and _not_ automated prompts/responses.

AT&T operators are _still_ the only operators who can handle certain
types of calls which MCI and Sprint don't choose to do. And if AT&T
(or any carrier) wants to introduce a new service or function (such as
Directory Link, True Messages, International Redial, etc), there
SHOULD be some form of industry numbering and dialing standard, as
well as operational standard, agreed upon by the industry forums and
Bellcore NANPA/TRA/etc. Even if other companies don't choose to
introduce the new service, at least there will be a standard out there
so as not to cause customer dialing confusion or conflicts whenever
other carriers begin to provide the same new service. At least
the industry has attempted on a numbering/dialing standard with
SAC-NPA 500 (although THAT still isn't 100% perfect!). Most features
provided by most LECs SEEM to follow some form of Bellcore or ATIS
forum dialing/numbering and network operations/interconnection
standard.

Is the "voice-with-a-smile" going to be COMPLETELY replaced by a robot?


NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Class-5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-)
NWORLAIYCM1 (BellSouth-Mobility Hughes-GMH-2000 Cellular-MTSO NOL)
NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 fg-B/C/D Accss-Tandem "Main" 504+)
NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:Opr-Srvcs-Tandem "Main" 504+053+)
NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+)
JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121)

MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <jcropper@lincs.net>
Subject: 559 Announced For 209 Split
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 17:40:03 -0400


Thanks to Eric once again for this tip:

      SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 24, 1997--The California
Public Utilities Commission has approved boundaries for the geographic
split of Central California's 209 area code, but has also reserved the
possibility of modifying that decision pending the outcome of Fresno
County's complaint case.

          The new area code, 559, to be introduced Nov. 14, 1998, will
serve Madera, Fresno, Tulare and Kings Counties and small portions of
seven other counties in the southern portion of San Joaquin Valley now
served by the 209 area code.

          Needed to meet increasing demand caused by the deregulation
of the telephone industry and the explosion of high technology, 559
will be California's 23rd area code.  California has more area codes
than any other state in the nation.  The addition of the new 559 area
code will not affect the price of telephone calls.

          A six-month "get acquainted" period will begin on Nov. 14,
1998 that will allow customers to dial either 209 or 559.  During this
period, people calling from outside the area can dial either the old
209 or the new 559 to reach customers within the 559 area code.
Customers within the two area codes will also be able to call between
the two geographical areas using only the seven-digit phone number for
the six-month "get acquainted" period.


New Area Code Boundaries

          -- The boundaries for the area code split generally runs
along the Madera County line where it borders on Mariposa and Merced
counties.  The northern region will retain the 209 area code and the
southern region will be assigned to the new 559 area code.

          -- The northern region which will retain the 209 area code
includes: Tuolumne, Calaveras and Amador counties, most of Merced, San
Joaquin, Stanislaus and Mariposa counties and very small parts of
Madera, Fresno, Sacramento, El Dorado, Alpine, Alameda, Contra Costa
and Santa Clara counties.  Cities in the northern region include:
Lodi, Stockton, Modesto, Turlock, Sonora and Merced.

          -- The new 559 area code will serve customers in the
southern region that contains: most of Fresno, Madera, Tulare, and
Kings counties, and very small portions of Merced, Mariposa, Mono,
Inyo, San Benito, Monterey and Kern counties.  Cities in the southern
region include: Fresno, Madera, Hanford, Visalia, Lindsay and
Porterville.

          The estimated life-span of the 559 area code is expected to
be 13 to 15 years.  According to California Code Administrator Doug
Hescox, "It will be a long time before the customers in the south will
have to worry about another area code change."  Hescox noted that new
area code could last up to four years longer than the 209 area code in
the north.


Public Input Crucial to Finalizing Area Code Boundaries

          Hescox, who coordinates area code relief planning statewide
for the telecommunications industry, recognized the difficulty in
determining which area was to retain the 209 area code.  "A series of
public hearings were held to receive comment specifically about which
region should keep the 209 area code," Hescox said.  "We received a
lot of valuable information at these meetings and through letters that
helped us in making our final recommendation."

          Several key issues were cited in retaining the 209 number in
the northern region.  Important factors include: a worldwide emergency
medical information service and a major military support service are
located in the north; the north has more telephone prefixes available
and strong ties to its surrounding area codes, including those in the
Bay Area.


Call Price is Not Impacted by Area Code Split

          Introduction of the new 559 area code will not affect the
price of telephone calls.  "What is a local call now will remain a
local call regardless of the area code change.  Call distance and time
determines the price of a call, not whether or not you dial an area
code," said Hescox.


Confirm Equipment Can Accommodate the New 559 Area Code

          In 1995, a series of new-style of area codes was introduced
in North America, and 559 is part of this new series that can use any
three digits from 220 to 999.  This new style of area codes has
special ramifications for certain types of telecommunications
equipment, which must be re-programmed to recognize the new format.

          "Historically, area codes always had either a '1' or '0' as
the middle digit for identification purposes, but by 1995 all of those
codes had been assigned," Hescox stated.  "Due to this change in
format, it's important for customers to know that PBX (private phone)
systems, auto-dialers, alarms and other telecommunications equipment
may have to be re-programmed to recognize the new-style area codes in
order for calls to complete," added Hescox.  Customers affected by the
area code split should contact their personal vendors to determine if
their equipment needs to be updated.


Things to Remember

          During the six-month "get acquainted" period which will
enable the customer to use either the 209 or 559 area code, customers
are being encouraged to use this period to make important changes.
These include:


      -- Change stationery, business cards and advertising to reflect
the new area code;

          -- Notify friends, relatives, business clients and customers of
the new area code;

          -- Update fax machine group calling lists that have numbers
affected by the change;

          -- Reprogram speed dialers, auto dialers, alarms and PBX
(private phone systems) to reflect the change (contact your equipment
vendor for assistance);

      -- Reprogram outdial lists on personal computers that have
numbers affected by the change;

          -- Check with wireless phone and paging service providers to
find out if re-programming is required.

          The 209 area code relief plan was collectively developed by
a telecommunications industry group composed of more than 30
companies, including: AirTouch, AT&T, AT&T Wireless, the California
Cable Television Association, GTE, MCI, Pacific Bell, Page Net, Sprint
and others.  Public comment was gathered through a series of public
hearings that were held in October 1996, and March and April 1997.

          The California Code Administration is an independent
planning group that coordinates area code relief planning and
administers numbering resources on behalf of the California
telecommunications industry.  Final decisions on area code issues are
made by the California Public Utilities Commission.

                ------------------------------------

John Cropper                       voice: 888.76.LINCS 
LINCS                              fax:   888.57.LINCS 
P.O. Box 277                       mailto:jcropper@lincs.net
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277         ICQ:   2670887

FREE areacode information: http://www.lincs.net/areacode/
$17.95 unlimited analog, or $29.95 unlimited ISDN dial-up:
                       http://www.lincs.net/internet/dialup.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:51:55 -0400
From: Charles Beatty <beatty@gdb.org>
Subject: Slammed - Fraud?
Organization: Genome Database


We were recently slammed. The story is a little more unusual and
disturbing than simply being slammed though. Last month a service
charge from Accutel of Boca Raton, FL showed up on our bill. I finally
got through to a vice president at Accutel. She told me that they had
purchased the cutomer base of a company called Christian Communications 
Group of Savannah, GA. The owner of Christian Communications is one
Pastor Ralph Davis. He may also be doing business as Least Cost
Routing.

Now I don't believe for a second that Davis is a pastor, or that
Christian Communicatons is anything but a scam. The disturbing part is
that they have my wife's social security number. This is apparently
sufficient to authorize a switch of LD carriers.

Has anyone heard of Christian Communicatons? Least Cost Routing?
"Pastor" Ralph Davis? Is there anything we can do to limit the
distribution of my wife's SS# ? Do we have any kind of legal recourse?

This is particularly upsetting since my wife's mother was just the
victim of credit card fraud because someone got her SS#.

Thanks in advance for any help or pointers.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:52:41 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change


The following item is excerpted from a copyright story which
appeared in the {Boston Globe} on September 11, 1997:


HOME SECURITY FIRMS SOUND ALARM ON TIMING OF AREA CODE CHANGES

By 
Bruce Mohl

The state's area code problems appear to be far from over, as 
alarm companies warned yesterday that tens of thousands of their 
customers won't have working alarms if the initial phase-in 
period for the new area codes is not extended beyond Dec. 1.

Executives from four alarm companies told the Legislature's 
Government Regulations Committee that three months -- the current 
period when either new or old area codes may be used -- is not 
enough time to manually reprogram each of their customers' alarms. 
In most cases, home visits are required.

Although they acknowledged their numbers are rough guesses, the 
executives said as many as 400,000 business and residential 
customers could be left without alarm service for fire, medical, 
and burglary emergencies starting Dec. 1.

"The stage is set for a firestorm," warned Richard L. Sampson, 
president of American Alarm & Communications Inc. in Arlington.

James W. Lees, chief executive of Sentry Protective Systems in 
Malden, said alarm companies need six to nine months to convert 
all the systems.  He said 5,200 of his 8,000 customers would go 
without service temporarily if the initial phase-in period is not 
extended.

Bell Atlantic has already asked the state Department of Public 
Utilities to extend the period when customers can dial numbers 
using either the new or old area codes, but only by one month to 
Jan. 1.

Jack Hoey, a spokesman for Bell Atlantic, said the company will 
work with the alarm companies, but he cautioned that the 
transition process can only be delayed so long.

"They're looking for time that doesn't exist," Hoey said.  "In 
some cases, they may need to hire people to get the job done."

Most alarm companies have already started charging their customers
more to pay for the reprogramming effort.  Sentry is charging
customers $25 or $39.95, depending on whether a home visit is
required.

Plans call for the phase-in period to end Dec. 1, after which callers
dialing the wrong area code will hear a recorded message telling them
to redial.  As of May 1, the new area codes begin full operation, and
consumers dialing a number with the wrong area code could be connected
to someone who has been given that number.

Lawmakers were sympathetic to the alarm company concerns and expressed
hope that the so-called permissive dialing period could be extended
another three months.  Otherwise, the lawmakers said, they may have to
force the issue with legislation.

"That would be unfortunate. What you're dealing with here is a
mathematical and technical problem, not a political problem," Hoey
said.

Bell Atlantic is also appealing to the DPU to forgo a system that 
would require callers to dial 10 numbers (the area code and number) 
when calling people who are in the local calling area but in a 
different area code.  Bell Atlantic says the system is confusing 
to customers.

Lawmakers will also have to deal with a bill filed by Acting Governor
Paul Cellucci to boot Belmont and Watertown out of 617 and back to 781
where the communities originally started.

Senator Michael Morrissey of Quincy said he supports putting Belmont 
and Watertown back in 781, but his House counterpart, Representative 
Daniel Bosley of North Adams, said it may be too late and too costly 
to make the change now.

Senator Warren Tolman of Watertown said reprinting phone books to
correct the area code boundaries and distributing them to customers
would cost between $3.5 million and $4 million.

------------------------------

From: zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 24 Sep 1997 17:40:49 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University, Waltham MA


Ray Morian <zbevna@znvy.tybonyfreir.arg> writes:

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What a rotten shame! So is Spamford
>> still out of service or has he managed to snooker other ISP's and/or
>> networks, etc into handling his nasty traffic?

According to news.admin.net-abuse.email, after he lost AGIS, Wallace
got hosted on and immediately booted from four other ISPs (including
Digex and BBNPlanet) in as many days.

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well now, I certainly cannot condone
>> any unlawful activities, which I guess would cover a commando raid on
>> Spamford's heaquarters, busting up his computers, tearing down all his
>> circuits, etc. I mean, I would not be surprised to see it happen one

According to the same newsgroup, Cyberpromo still owes Compuserve
$30,000.  Also, Cyberpromo promised $10/day for any outage experienced
by one of their (spammer) customers.

Wallace is probably maxing out his credit cards and fleeing for
Mexico.


Pat


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Has anyone attempted to contact him
at his office (or home or wherever) and get the details on these
latest allegations; i.e. money owed to Compuserve and his plans
for the future?  Is there any activity at his office at all such
as phones being answered, a customer service rep on duty, etc, or
is his office abandoned? 

The other day I was helping someone who has a problem with rodent
infestation in their basement. I put out lots of 'nice, tasty food'
the little guys would be sure to like -- heh! heh! -- and already
today the results were obvious. Several bloated and quite dead
little carcasses near the food dish I had prepared. This leads me
to my final question for this issue: how severe is this rodent
infestation on the net? Obviously Spamford was one of their leaders,
but how many of the vermin still remain to be exterminated?  Any 
guesstimates?  PAT]

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    Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Denver: Home Number Ringing on Mobile Phone (Donald M. Heiberg)
    888 Shortage Hits Toll-Free Phone Industry (Monty Solomon)
    Fun in Elkhart, IN (was Re: Radio Vigilantes) (Bill Levant)

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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:18:20 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today


I am _NOT_ titling this post with "Last Laugh" as part of the subject
line. While I do intend some sarcasm/irony further down, the
fictitious situation described here is _NOT_ funny.

Background:

"Suspense" was a dramatic anthology radio series that ran for 20 years
on the CBS Radio Network (Columbia Broadcasting System), from 1942 to
1962. An 'anthology' is a series in which each episode is a totally
different story/situation (and cast of characters), with no situation
'thread' to any other episode (similar to CBS-TV's "Twilight Zone",
1959-64).

Many stories which aired on "Suspense" were, however _re-performed_ by
either most or all of the original cast, or a brand new cast of
players (voices); however in the later years of the original run of
the series, many repeated episodes were actual _reruns_ of tapes (or
transcription disks) of an original or earlier episode.

One of the most popular and 'spine-tingling' episodes which aired on
Suspense was "Sorry, Wrong Number", written by Lucille Fletcher. This
story aired eight different times during Suspense's twenty year run on
CBS Radio. The airings in the later years of Suspense were actually
reruns, rather than re-performances. However, Agnes Morehead (who
later played Samantha's mother on "Bewitched" on ABC-TV) always
starred as the bed-ridden invalid, who is frightened by a mysterious
telephone call that she overheard.

The story starts out where she is trying to call her husband at work.
He is working late that evening, and she is alone, in her bed. While
she does have a telephone next to her on the nightstand, this is the
1940's or 1950's, long before the "Lifecall" autodialing devices first
came on the market.

Due to the constant busy signals while calling her husband's office
number, she finally dials '0' for the operator to 'check' the line.
When the operator dials the number, she hears ringing, and then the
line is answered by _two_ men. Somehow, she gets cut into someone
else's conversation. She can hear both of them, but they cannot hear
her. What the two men are discussing is planning ... a MURDER!

Obviously, she is quite upset about this, but what she doesn't realize
until the end of the episode (and her own life) is that the two men
are planning HER murder! Her husband was going to have her killed for
the insurance money.

After a few minutes, the connection is broken. Agnes gets the operator
on the line again, asking her to "misdial" that "wrong" number, but
all we hear are busy signals. Agnes demands to speak with a supervisor
and even the Chief Operator to see if the numbers of the two men can
be traced. The operators and supervisors tell her that she should call
the Police, and even place the call for her.

Agnes gets a 'run-around' from the Police precinct desk-sergeant. But
she is still worried and concerned about hearing the telephone call
with a murder being planned. She calls up the operator again, who is
unable to help her further with her request. Eventually, Agnes gets a
telephone call from Western Union. There is a telegram for her, which
Western Union is going to read over the telephone. The telegram is
from her husband. He has been trying to call her all evening, but her
line has been busy. He needs to go out of town for the evening, and
tells her not to worry. The telephone is right next to her bed.

This gets Agnes more worried and nervous. She calls information to get
the number of a private hospital (Sanitorium) that she had stayed at
once before, to either hire a private nurse for the evening, or to
even have an ambulance take her to the hospital and check-in. She
then notices that her clock has stopped, and she hangs up on the
hospital, to call the Time-of-Day recording (MEridien-7-1212) for the
correct time. When she heard the two men plotting the murder, they
said that the victim would be stabbed at 11:15 pm that night. It is
now 11:10pm, and she hears a noise downstairs. NOW she begins to think
that SHE is the unnamed murder victim mentioned in the telephone call
that she heard earlier that evening.

She picks up the handset on the telephone and dials '0' for the
Operator. When the operator comes on the line, she says that it is an
emergency and needs the Police. The operator connects, and the ringing
indication can be heard through her receiver. A train is passing just
outside of her room, and the rumbling can be heard. Then, you hear
Agnes begin to scream "NO! NO! PLEASE, DON'T COME NEAR ME! NO! HELP!"
Just then, the train lets out a loud whistle and horn, and Agnes lets
out one high-pitched blood-curdling SHREAK!

As she dies, the (metal-housing) telephone clangs to the floor.
However, the ringing-tone of the connection to the Police can still be
heard. They haven't yet answered. Finally, a voice comes from the
receiver, "Police Department, Precinct 43, Sergeant Martin speaking".
The voice can be heard repeating it a couple more times. Then a man's
voice is heard in the late Agnes' bedroom speaking into the phone:
"Police Department??? Sorry, this must be a wrong number. Don't worry,
everything is OK, here". (Music up- end of episode)

                       ---------------

There are some references in the dialogue that the story takes place
in New York City, although for most of its run, Suspense was produced
in Hollywood. Therefore, New York Telephone (later NYNEX, now Bell
Atlantic) would be the local exchange telephone company.

Also, I have described the story as I have heard it on several of its
performances by Agnes Morehead on Suspense. A motion picture version
of "Sorry, Wrong Number" was also done, starring Miss Barbara
Stanwyck.  who also starred in the "Lux Radio Theater" recreation of
the movie version. I have seen only part of the movie (I think that
AMC, American Movie Classics has run the "Sorry, Wrong Number" movie
before), and I did once hear a tape of the "Lux Radio Theater"
version, which was an expanded story over the "Suspense" radio
version.

Now, lets flash-forward to a post-divestiture telephone environment.
And here is where I will give two different scenarios, with some
sarcasm. Also, while 911 is the 'standard' emergency access number in
the North American Numbering Plan, one can always call the Operator
in the case of an emergency. The operator has (is supposed to have) a
special bulletin at her position indicating the emergency reporting
numbers (or operator routing codes to such) of various emergency
agencies and jurisdictions in the territory where she might receive
calls from. Also, not every part of the US and Canada necessarily have
the 911 emergency number in operation.

The first scenario is the late 1980's or early 1990's. While AT&T and
its now-divested local Bell Operating Companies had separated basic
operator services, with AT&T retaining the older pre-divestiture TSPS
Operator network, and the LECs starting up their own new (usually TOPS
although some LECs have OSPS) operator systems for intra-LATA 'only'
services. Dialing a '0' would get the intra-LATA 'only' LEC operator
(the 'new' operator system in most parts of the US), while dialing
'00' would route to the operator services of your primary IXC's
operator services, if they offered such. If your chosen primary
long-distance carrier didn't have any operator services, '00' would
route to either a re-order, a recorded announcement, or in some cases,
the operator services of a different long-distance carrier which had
contacted with your LD-carrier, to provice operator services.

Now, let's assume that Agnes' line is presubscribed to AT&T. Around
the late 1980's, for a few years, AT&T operators and TOPS/OSPS would
_NOT_ be able to assist on intra-LATA calls. Even calling-card
sequence-calls via AT&T could only be to points _outside_ of the LATA
you were calling from. That has since changed ... AT&T live operators
and the OSPS system can be used for intra-LATA calls (at AT&T's prices
which could be lower - or sometimes higher - than what the LEC would
charge for the same call), but AT&T's "no inTRA-LATA assistance" was
problematic for about a year or two during the timeframe mentioned here.

Okay. Agnes dials '0' for the operator to ask for the Police. She
forgets that 911 could also be dialed (New York City has had 911 for
emergencies, for DECADES, since probably the late 1960's). Now, when
one dials '0', there is a three-to-five second delay before connecting
with the (LEC) Operator switch. Since there 'could' be digits to
follow the (initial) '0', such as in 0+ calls, '00' (i.e., a _second_
'0' after the initial '0'), or IDDD calls 01(1)+country-code-etc.,
there is this delay before your local end-office times-out and connects
you with your LEC '0' TOPS (or OSPS) although you could DTMF a '#'
button right after the single '0', which is supposed to time-out right
away, cutting through to your LEC TOPS.

However, Agnes is in a highly frantic state. When she doesn't hear
anything right away after dialing '0', she dials it a second time,
before she would have timed-out to the NYNEX TOPS operator. Now, her
end-office routes a '00' call over to the operator services of her
primary carrier. In this case, it would route to AT&T's TSPS/OSPS.

A live AT&T operator comes on the line, "AT&T Operator, how may I help
you?". Agnes screams "Get me the POLICE, PLEASE, HURRY!". However, the
AT&T operator comes back "I'm sorry, Ma'm, but that call is in your
NYNEX LATA. You will have to hang-up and dial your local NYNEX
operator with a SINGLE '0'", and then disconnects!

Of course, even though the LEC operators aren't (usually) allowed or
even capable of handling (most) inTER-LATA calls ... and circa 1990,
AT&T's operators weren't supposed to be handling inTRA-LATA calls,
there have always been ways to over-ride such blockings at the TOPS
or TSPS/OSPS equipment, in case of emergencies. Such inTRA-LATA
over-ride by AT&T _would_ have been handled in the above situation.
Also, if a county straddled multiple LATAs, and the Sheriff's office
was not in your LATA, a LEC single-0 operator would always be able to
over-ride and connect to them even though it is 'technically' outside
of the LATA of the requesting calling party.

Now, lets fast-forward again, to a second scenario, mid-to-late-1990s
and onward. Again, Agnes dials '0', followed within five-seconds by a
second '0', since the POTENTIAL extra-digits delay is confusing.

Again, she routes to the AT&T OSPS, but this time, not to a live human
AT&T Operator, but rather the AT&T 'sparkle' jingle and AT&T audio
branding logo. Next comes a pre-recorded menu: "This is AT&T. To place
a call, please enter the number you are calling. For AT&T 'double-oh'
information, please press or say '1'. For all other assistance, please
say 'information', 'credit', or 'operator', now". In her frantic state,
Agnes begins to scream: "HELP! POLICE! ... EMERGENCY!"

Would the automated system then state:
"I'm sorry, I did not understand your voice-response. Please say
'information', 'credit', or 'operator', now. OR, please stay on the
line, and an operator will answer" ???

Or is the system 'smart' enough to attempt to recognize such words as:
'help', 'police', 'emergency', 'fire', 'ambulance', 'hospital', etc.
to connect a live AT&T operator _RIGHT AWAY_ who will assist in such an
emergency situation?

All of these pre-recorded auto-prompts _could_ delay one in receiving
live operator assistance in a bona-fide emergency situation. As I
mentioned earlier, not all originating locations have any active 911
service. And whether or not a location has 911 service, the telco
operator is always supposed to be available for Emergency assistance.
But since single-0 most of the time includes a 3-to-5 second delay
before timing out to a LEC operator (due to POSSIBLE additional digits
following an initial '0'), some might dial a _second_ '0' within the
delay period, thus routing to the operator services of one's primary
LD-company. Of course, one could dial '0' followed by (DTMF-ing) a '#'
(pound-button) thus cancelling the 3-to-5 second delay, and cutting
thru right-away to the LEC operator, but how my people of the 'general
public' would even _know_ to use the '#' button!? And what about the
many rotary dial phones out there!

I do expect that AT&T, MCI and Sprint-LD operators (when a live human
operator is finally reached) would be properly trained to know how to
handle emergency call situations. But it is going to get more-and-more
complicated with local telco competition, and also as AT&T operators
begin to receive calls from larger and more varied geographic
territory. I mentioned in an earlier post, that when I call an AT&T
operator from New Orleans, the AT&T #5ESS OSPS switch that serves me
is located in Jackson MS (601-0T, JCSNMSPS06T), however the operators
themselves are located on the southern part of the east coast, anywhere
from Maryland to Florida - i.e. Bell Atlantic's former C&P Telephone
territory (MD, DC, VA, WVa) and Bell South's former Southern Bell
territory (NC, SC, GA, FL).

And as for A-O-Slime operators serving private "COCOT" payphones, I
_have_ read of situations where these operators have COMPLETELY
BUNGLED emergency calls. I don't know if anyone actually lost their
life due to such A-O-Slime incompetancy on handling emergency calls.
However, many of us know that these companies are now using _all kinds_
of automated menus and prompts on "0-" (zero-minus) types of dialed
calls. This can delay reaching operator assistance in an emergency, as
well as the COCOT (and even telco-owned) 'chip-dialing' payphones will
delay for a few seconds on the customer entering '0' into the payphone,
which is then followed by the payphone grabbing a loop with the telco
central-office, and _then_ dialing out (single) '0', _OR_ in the case
of A-O-Slime, dialing out an 800/888/950 number or 10(1X)XXX+0 of the
A-O-Slime entity, and _then_ when connected with the A-O-Slime switch,
the payphone DTMF's out various identification digits. THEN the
customer has to put up with various menu prompts! :(

So, as I mentioned in my earlier posting, IMO, AT&T should route '00'
and 10(10)288-0(#/0), i.e. calls dialed for AT&T's own 0- (zero-minus)
operators, LIVE AND DIRECT to a LIVE HUMAN BEING, rather than menus and
prompts. Actually, IMO, all LECs and IXCs _should_ do the same thing
for calls to _their_ 0/00 type operators! If I wanted to place a '0+'
type of a call, I WOULD HAVE DIALED (10(1X)XXX)+0+ten-digits or
(10(1X)XXX)+01+international, or accessed the operator/card services
with an access number for the carrier - 800/888/950/etc. If I wanted
directory assistance, I would have dialed (10(1X)XXX)+1/0+NPA-KL.5-1212.
And with all of these NPA splits (and now overlays), many (though not
necessarily all, and not always 'neat and clean' or clearcut) DA systems
allow the operator to check multiple/nearby (and soon overlaid) NPAs
for directory lookup inquiries. When I dial something 0/00 'zero-minus',
I want to go directly to an operator!


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From: Donald M. Heiberg <dheiberg@ecentral.com>
Subject: Denver: Home Number Ringing on Mobile Phone
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:09:51 -0600


 From the "Rocky Mountain News", Denver, September 24, 1997
http://www.denver-rmn.com/business/0924west2.htm

US West launches wireless with a twist
Home number ringing on mobile phone is a first in U.S., company says

By Rebecca Cantwell
Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer
(C) Rocky Mountain News

US West Communications turned up its new wireless service in the Denver 
area Tuesday with a twist the company says is a national first: A 
customer's home number can be programmed to ring on the mobile phone.

The Denver-based phone giant is the sixth company to enter the wireless 
phone market in the metro area and the third this year to launch 
personal communications service, or PCS.

US West mounted an elaborate multimedia event at the Denver Museum of 
Natural History to make its long-anticipated announcement. The company 
also said it will offer free admission all weekend to the museum and 
three other cultural attractions to promote the service.

Playing on its role as the virtual monopoly local phone service 
provider, US West will market the Access2 wireless phone service 
primarily as an add-on to regular service.

Customers can choose their existing home or small-business office 
numbers as their PCS number, and incoming calls to that number can be 
routed directly to the mobile phone for $4.95 a month. Or customers can 
use the separate number assigned to the PCS phone.

An existing voice mailbox can be used for messages on the PCS phone, and 
users can get immediate notification of messages left at home or work. 
Other familiar features such as Caller ID and call waiting are also 
available.

"Access2 gives people their own portable 'one-stop-shop,' putting all 
the power and convenience of their home or office phone in the palm of 
their hand,'' said US West Communications President Sol Trujillo. "It's 
so advanced, it's actually simple to use.''

Trujillo said prices would be competitive. The company's Sony Qualcomm 
PCS phones sell for $199 with packages ranging from $24.95 a month for 
one hour to $69.95 a month for five hours.

The idea is to provide convenience for customers in an era when "some of 
us need a poster-sized business card to hold all our phone numbers,'' 
Trujillo said.

Peter Mannetti, general manager of US West Wireless, was introduced on a 
video screen talking on a PCS phone in the rain in front of sea lions at 
the Denver Zoo. Trujillo reached Mannetti by dialing his home phone 
number.

After arriving at the museum, Mannetti explained that the technology 
allowing customers to use one number for both wireless and regular 
phones was developed at US West's Advanced Technology Center in Boulder. 
The company spent more than $100 million preparing for its launch, with 
about 155 towers in metro Denver.

US West is launching its service after winning auctions from the
federal government later than its PCS rivals. Sprint PCS and Western
Wireless, which both launched service earlier this year, paid more
than $64 million each for 30 mega hertz of spectrum. US West paid only
$5.3 million for a third as much space -- 10 megahertz.

Mannetti said that was "more than sufficient spectrum'' to meet its
needs. The service launched Tuesday reaches from Longmont to Castle
Rock and from Golden to Aurora, with plans to expand.

Major rivals were unimpressed.

"We applaud them in recognizing the future of this technology but its
hard for us to be overwhelmed when in less than a year, we've launched
in 65 markets and 500 cities,'' said Bob Kelley of Sprint PCS.

US West is launching "a variation on something we've been offering for 
three years,'' said Mary Ireland of AT&T Wireless. And Craig Cavey of 
Western Wireless' VoiceStream noted his company's PCS service covers a 
wider area: from Cheyenne to Pueblo.

But Mannetti said the market is growing fast. Predictions are that in 
five to seven years half the population will have a wireless phone, 
Mannetti said.

"This is the biggest expansion of telephony since Alexander Graham 
Bell,'' he said.

September 24, 1997

Submitted by Don Heiberg, Denver (303) 589-1539

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:46:20 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: 888 Shortage Hits Toll-free Phone Industry


888 Shortage Hits Toll-free Phone Industry

By Roger Fillion 

WASHINGTON - The toll-free telephone business is in a crunch -- a 
numbers crunch, that is. 

Industry officials warn that demand for 888" and 800" toll-free
numbers is so strong they need to conserve the pool of unused
numbers. They want to avoid using up toll-free "resources" before a
new 877" code is deployed next April.

There seems to be sort of a run on toll-free numbers," said Sally Mott
Freeman, spokeswoman for the Alliance for Telecommunications Industry
Solutions (ATIS), the industry group that monitors the allocation of
toll-free numbers.

ATIS has asked the Federal Communications Commission for a hand to 
implement a conservation plan" in the face of booming popularity for 
toll-free digits among companies and consumers, who clearly like the 
convenience and price of the product. 

The use of the numbers in pagers, faxes and other gadgets also has 
contributed to the squeeze, industry officials said. 

The toll-free codes let callers dial, free of charge, the party assigned 
the number. Users, like mail-order companies, airlines and parents of 
college students, pay a phone company or other toll-free provider a flat 
fee for use of the number. 

Availability of 800 numbers essentially dried up in early 1996 after 
nearly 20 years. The 888 code was introduced in March 1996 and was 
expected to last through spring 1998. 

We'll be lucky if it lasts two years," said Freeman. 

There are roughly eight million numbers available with each toll-free 
prefix. 

As of Sept. 20, there were 12.1 million 800 and 888 numbers in use and 
2.6 million available, according to Morristown, N.J.- based Bellcore, 
whose subsidiary operates the database that distributes the numbers. 

The proposed conservation plan would limit the number of 800/888 numbers 
that phone companies and other toll-free providers can reserve for use 
by businesses and consumers. 

Currently, the roughly 210 companies that assign toll-free numbers face 
a ceiling of 2,000 a week, or 7.5 percent of all numbers they have 
available for use -- whichever is larger. 

Industry officials are proposing the FCC to sharply lower the cap 
applicable to each company. The cap would vary from company to company, 
depending on the number of toll-free numbers each company has deployed 
for actual use. 

ATIS told the FCC earlier this month that 401,051 new toll- free numbers 
were assigned in August, up from a monthly average of 344,113 for much 
of the year. 

Further increases, the group warned, would exhaust" the available pool 
before next April's 877 launch. At this point, however, officials don't 
anticipate the kind of crunch that happened in 1995 with 800 numbers. 

The FCC at that time crafted a plan to slow the depletion and smooth the 
deployment of the 888 code. Among other things, the introduction of the 
888 code was moved ahead by a month. 

FCC officials are monitoring the latest situation. 

The convenience of toll-free numbers helps explain their popularity, 
especially among mail-order businesses and other companies keen on 
having customers call them. 

Industry officials also cite these factors as likely, or possible, 
contributors to the depletion: 

-- Greater use of electronic pagers, fax machines and voice mail based 
on toll-free digits. 

-- More use of personal toll-free numbers by consumers, such as parents 
who have a student at college and want to give that person a cheap way 
to call home. 

-- The approach of the holiday season, which prompts catalog companies 
to request more toll-free numbers. 

-- Next year's launch of 877, which has spurred companies to try and 
reserve remaining 888 numbers before they dry up. 

Once it was technically possible for many new categories of customers to 
use them, the market found a way to use them," Ken Branson, a Bellcore 
spokesman, said of toll-free numbers. 

Copyright, Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved 

------------------------------

From: Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:50:30 EDT
Subject: Fun in Elkhart, IN (was Re: Radio Vigilantes)


Maybe it's me, but my bullshit detector pinned when I read the story
about the guys who (allegedly) bought a TV, hacked it to make a ham
frequency jammer, and then reboxed it and returned it for resale.

C'mon, now.  Isn't this a bit much?  For starters, how can these guys
be sure that the hacked TV will be sold to someone who lives close
enough to the repeater to make a difference?  Won't the extraneous RF
output louse up the PURCHASER'S reception enough to make him/her
suspicious right off the bat?  Isn't it an enormous amount of trouble
to go to, given that there are easier, cheaper and more effective ways
to jam a signal?

*I* think it's a modern urban legend.  For those unfamiliar with the
term, I commend you to any of the several books on the subject written
by Jan Brunvand, Professor of English at the University of Utah.  Two
of them, "The Study of American Folklore" and "Readings in American
Folklore" are fairly scholarly; the others, "The Mexican Pet", "The
Choking Doberman" and "Curses, Broiled Again" are considerably more
accessible, and are funny as hell.

You'll see that many, many stories that you've probably heard a
hundred times before (and accepted as true without question) are
actually a form of modern legend.

ObTelecom example: Johnny Carson, or Steve McQueen, or Paul Newman, or
Sammy Davis, Jr., or Robert Redford, or Burt Reynolds, or (... you get
the idea ...) won a gigantic settlement against AT&T (or MCI, or
Sprint, or ...) as a result of which Johnny/Steve/Paul/Sammy/Robert/
Burt/etc is giving out his credit card number publicly so that the
unwashed masses can help him eat up the settlement money.

Completely untrue; allegedly, one iteration of this legend, in 1981,
cost the Wabash Telephone Company, of Louisville, IL about $100,000.00
in unrecoverable charges billed to "Burt Reynolds' credit card number",
which turned out to be one of theirs.  That is, I believe, PAT's neck
of the woods (or at least a whole lot closer than Philadelphia is).

Source :  Curses, Broiled Again, P. 235, by Jan Brunvand (c) 1981 - published
by W.W. Norton & Co. (ISBN 0-393-02710-4)

Great exercise for the critical thinking muscles.


Bill

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 25 Sep 97 21:44:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 261

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change (Bradley Ward Allen)
    Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change (Roger Fajman)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Louis Raphael)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Bruce Pennypacker)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Kevin R. Ray)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Tom Betz)
    Re: MedicAlert and 209 Split (Laura Twombly)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Shankar Unni)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (John McGing)
    Re: 800/888 Problem; Suggestions Welcome (Mark Brukhartz)
    Its Time to Make a Change (Judith Oppenheimer)

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From: Bradley Ward Allen <ulmo@Q.Net>
Subject: Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change
Date: 25 Sep 1997 19:44:00 -0400
Organization: Q


My opinions should be obvious, but I think they bear repeating:

1.  When I was kid, we were given six months to change.  I didn't think
    it was enough then, for those people that call only once every one
    or two years, but for just about every other purpose, including
    printing stationary, changing signs, printing phone books,
    notifying all your correspondents and relationships, and updating
    all your equipment, I always regarded six months as magically
    "just (barely) enough", and therefore acceptable.

2.  Therefore, when I read that three months was all that will be given,
    then I automatically agree with the side that says to raise it to
    six months.  What I do not understand, however, is the alarm
    company's problem with the three months: since they are large and
    organized, they can make arrangements with the phone company to
    convert the customers in the order of which numbers get switched
    first; with area code splits, often the phone company is able to
    incrementally effect more and more numbers, allowing certain
    numbers to go through via the old area code for longer than other
    numbers.  This of course does need coordination between both
    companies, and is a cost that should be paid by local "RBOC's"
    that are not organized enough to get their new area codes in time
    to have a six month permissive period.

3.  I point out that overlays would fix this situation, as long as
    seven digit within-area-code dialing is still permitted, at least
    as a long grace period (such as one or two years).

4.  Finally, I have a question.  With full number portability, will area
    code splits ever be necessary again?  I mean, all the "2002, we
    will need a split in XYZ area code" charts that Bellcore puts out
    will be of a smaller "doomsday" importance, in that they will only
    be a chart of places that will have new area codes, but no splits?
    What I'm saying, is after the numbers in an area code are
    exhausted (which will not happen for a long time since portability
    will allow many current companies to use numbers for a long time),
    a new area code could be overlayed at any time, and suddenly new
    numbers for all phone companies would come out of the new area
    code, and it would not matter what area a particular line is in;
    the portability would decouple the locality concept of phone
    numbers; anyplace that requires the "older" area codes can be put
    on a waiting list for new "old" numbers, and then portability
    those numbers over to the requestors.

5.  Because of #3 and #4, I protest the FCC requirement for 10 digit
    dialing, specifically that it should *never* require ten digit
    dialing, and only that 1+ dialing always work without being put
    into long distance companies for the suggestion, and furthermore
    that within-area-code seven digit dialing should be permitted
    since there will still be applications where that is useful.

6.  I repeat what I already posted earlier, that I finally understand
    overlays to be anticompetitive, and it took me some time to
    realize this.  Number portability will also fix this.

7.  As an aside, in order to keep my home phone number during a short
    move in NYC, I had to put an order into Bell Atlantic's Business
    division to change my residential account to a business account
    for the affected line ($82.05) and subscribe to Business "Remote
    Call Forwarding" ($19.88/month + business rate usage for the
    forwarded calls, in this case all local, but long distance I think
    also would work); because the number I need to keep is the same
    number used as the accounting structure's "main" number (and line)
    for my account (and what starts out my account number), and I'm
    keeping other lines, those other lines need to be seperated in a
    Residential order before the number can be turned into a business
    account; because one of the lines that needs to be turned into the
    new "main line" must be an ISDN line (as there are no other
    non-ISDN lines), this order needs to be referred to the ISDN
    department; therefore, to obtain an entirely simple
    software-controllable in-switch change, it takes at least four to
    six departments, perhaps a set of twenty competent paper-pushers
    at Bell Atlantic working quite responsively (in my experience --
    not only did they call me back from many different departments and
    leave lucent messages almost twice a day concerning necessary
    steps and my able to return those calls and leave messages in
    response, except for once (oops, where's that #?  I think I
    already did ...)) and I just checked the status and they are doing
    quite well, and the original order was only placed earlier this
    week!), and what they predict will be about two weeks!  Will this,
    too, change, with number portability (i.e., I move to
    Queens/Brooklyn/Bronx, and I can keep my 212# as a side-effect of
    number portability)?

------------------------------

From: Roger Fajman <RAF@CU.NIH.GOV>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997  20:19:46 EDT
Subject: Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change


> Bell Atlantic is also appealing to the DPU to forgo a system that
> would require callers to dial 10 numbers (the area code and number)
> when calling people who are in the local calling area but in a
> different area code.  Bell Atlantic says the system is confusing
> to customers.

That's a rather odd position for Bell Atlantic to take, since we've
had 10 digit dialing for local calls for some time now in the
Washington, DC area, which is Bell Atlantic territory.  Until
recently, 10 (or 11) digits were mandatory for local calls to a
different area code and optional within the same area code.  Now, in
Maryland, 10 (or 11) digits are required for all local calls, in
preparation for the new area codes to be overlayed on 301 and 410.  I
believe that in DC itself and in Virginia, 10 (or 11) digits are still
required only when a local call is to a different area code.

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From: raphael@willy.cs.mcgill.ca (Louis Raphael)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 25 Sep 1997 02:47:48 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre


Judging by my IN.spam box, I'd say that the latest plug-pulling dealt
with about 1/2 of the spammers (by volume) out there. There aren't
that many spammers -- it's just that they are harmful out of proportion
to their numbers. My IN.spam box receives about 2-3/day, compared to
about 5-10 before 'Promo went down.


Louis

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From: Bruce Pennypacker <pennypacker@altech.noagis.com>
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 25 Sep 1997 12:40:05 GMT
Organization: Applied Language Technologies


FYI, the following article was just posted on news.admin.net-abuse.email:

Ok - now this will likely be preliminary only. (Nothing big will
necessarily happen - dates will be set, etc.) However, from a well
written article at:

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,14429,00.html?dtn.head

Wallace, AGIS to face judge 

      By Janet Kornblum, Stephanie Miles, and Jeff Pelline
      September 24, 1997, 5:25 p.m. PT update

                A federal court judge is set to hear a
                request tomorrow by Cyber Promotions president
                Sanford Wallace to make backbone provider
                AGIS reconnect the mass emailer. 

                The hearing in front of U.S. District Judge Anita
                Brody comes after Wallace sued AGIS for breach
                of contract. AGIS disconnected Cyber Promotions,
                as well as Integrated Media Promotions and New
                Hampshire-based Quantum Communications
                sometime last week, according to AGIS
                spokesman Jason Delker. But Delker declined to
                detail when or why the spammers were kicked off. 

               "We're going to attempt to get a temporary res-
               training order to get a connection," he said [Wallace]

So there will be argument as well to attempt to get a TSO!

------------------------------

From: Kevin R. Ray <kevin@chicago.org>
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 25 Sep 1997 13:54:16 GMT
Organization: The Windy City


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to Patrick Tufts <zippy@cs.
brandeis.edu>:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Has anyone attempted to contact him
> at his office (or home or wherever) and get the details on these
> latest allegations; i.e. money owed to Compuserve and his plans
> for the future?  Is there any activity at his office at all such
> as phones being answered, a customer service rep on duty, etc, or
> is his office abandoned? 

Does anyone have his {current} home number? I just tried their
"offices" and all the extensions -- got voice mail on all of them. His
technical updates did ask that his customers fax him a statement how
much money they are losing, etc, etc, etc. Why don't we all drop a
dime and fax him at 1-215-628-9762 or 1-215-628-2523 stating how much
money we are SAVING with our systems being idle, users not calling our
tech departments, wasting time hitting "d", etc, etc, etc. And if we
did fax him with this is it not true that it is not solicitation (ie:
illegal) and not harassment if we *ALL* do just one ... not to mention
his poor fax machines would die a horrible death and his customers
would be able to get through to him. :)

> The other day I was helping someone who has a problem with rodent
> infestation in their basement. I put out lots of 'nice, tasty food'
> the little guys would be sure to like -- heh! heh! -- and already
> today the results were obvious. Several bloated and quite dead
> little carcasses near the food dish I had prepared. This leads me
> to my final question for this issue: how severe is this rodent
> infestation on the net? Obviously Spamford was one of their leaders,
> but how many of the vermin still remain to be exterminated?  Any 
> guesstimates?  PAT]

My guess would be around 1,000. There's still a TON of their bulk
emailing software in the hands of unknowing people just WAITING to use
it -- and to have their personal ISP accounts pulled. My filters have
gone from nuking about 100 messages a day (to me personally) to about
one every TWO days. I don't miss Spammy ...

------------------------------

From: tbetz@panix.com (Tom Betz)
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack
Date: 25 Sep 1997 23:58:41 GMT
Organization: Society for the Elimination of Junk Unsolicited Bulk Email
Reply-To: tbetz@pobox.com


Quoth trey@zipcon.net (Trey Valenta) in <telecom17.258.8@telecom-
digest.org>:

> In <telecom17.257.12@telecom-digest.org> nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
> writes:

>>     I suggest simply redirecting any spam you get from anybody,
>> especially if it has any forged address information, or any hint of a
>> false health claim or other scam, to the new Federal Trade Commmission
>> spam reporting point, "uce@ftc.gov".  

> I suggest you DON'T do this. I can't find the article now, but the FTC
> recently put out a statement that the large numbers of people who were
> doing this is putting severe strain on the systems. Seems many have set
> their procmail scripts to do forwarding on any suspected UCE/spam.
> According to the FTC, they don't want to see the messages unless it's
> definately fraud related and overall abuse will result in them pulling
> the plug on the address or tracking the person down who is flooding
> their systms.

That was the IRS, not the FTC.  The IRS has an address for tax fraud
schemes, Ponzi scammers who mention "Tax-free" income, and the like.
They complained about being on autoresponders, and want only
tax-related spam.

The FTC hasn't complained, yet.

Last I heard, the FTC was welcoming all UCE to that address.


We have tried ignorance       |            Tom Betz, Generalist              
for a very long time, and     | Want to send me email? First, read this page:
it's time we tried education. | <http://www.panix.com/~tbetz/mailterms.shtml>
<http://www.pobox.com/~tbetz> |   I mock up my reactive mind twice daily.    

------------------------------

From: Laura Twombly <latwomb@PacBell.COM>
Subject: Re: MedicAlert and 209 Split
Date: 24 Sep 1997 21:15:30 GMT
Organization: ESAC


jf@oxy.edu wrote in article <telecom17.258.16@telecom-digest.org> ...

> Why can't MedicAlert just purchase remote-call forwarding or 
> foreign-exchange lines or work out something with the phone company?  
> What am I missing here?

I'd like to take a crack at this.

The first issue is whether or not something could be done so that
MedicAlert could keep their 209 number even if Turlock was changed to
the new NPA. While this is not technically impossible, it is 1) an
administrative nightmare in that this exception would have to be
maintained indefinitely and the whole world would have to be notified,
and understand, this exception, plus 2) it would be enormously unfair
to the rest of the customers in that prefix who would also be forced
to stay in the 209 area, even though their city was in the new NPA.

The second issue is whether this state of affairs was brought about
because of MedicAlert in the first place.  My understanding of the NPA
split process (which I admit is imperfect), is that there is an
attempt made to leave the old NPA with the area that is growing
faster, and give the new NPA to the area that is growing slower.  The
reasoning is that if another NPA split is needed, it should be imposed
on the folks that haven't just had one, rather than the folks that
just went through an NPA split.  I also understand that Turlock, and
its surrounding area, appear to be the most rapidly growing part of
the 209 area. Which means that Fresno would have gotten the new NPA
and Turlock would have been left in the old NPA whether or not
MedicAlert existed.  Theoretically.


Laura T.

------------------------------

From: Shankar Unni <shankar@webnexus.com>
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:53:30 -0700
Organization: None


John R. Levine wrote:

> The slightly longer answer is that there are systems that let your
> entire network hide behind a single IP address, doing translation on
> the fly.  (The three-letter acronym is NAT.)  Dedicated NAT boxes tend
> to be expensive but you might be able to find freeware for Linux.

The Linux term for this is IP Masquerading. It's not 100% transparent,
but most network clients work fine with it.

You designate one Linux box as a firewall with IP Masquerading, to talk
to the outside network on one IP address. Hopefully your cable modem is
one that is usable by a Linux box (some cable modems come with required
host software that is only available for Windows). 

The Linux box must have another ethernet card to talk to the local
network, and you can put all your other hosts on that network, with some
private IP address like 10.* or 172.16.*. The Linux box will act like a
router, translating the private address to the public IP address in a
way that allows the reply packets to be translated back to the original
private IP address. This also means that incoming connections cannot be
made to the private network, an added level of security.

It takes a little skill and savvy to set this up, but the upside is the
cost (free beyond the hardware cost of the PC itself, and even if you
have to buy a separate box, you can equip a decent 486 PC these days for
under $500, especially if you get it used and upgrade any components
yourself; and a 486 w/ 8 or 16MB is all you really need to run a
dedicated Linux firewall.)


Shankar Unni              shankar@webnexus.com
Powertel Global, Inc.     (408) 378-9745

------------------------------

From: jmcging@dm.net (John McGing)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 02:16:02 GMT
Organization: @Home Networks


On 23 Sep 1997 05:53:53 -0000, johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine) wrote:

>> If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to get
>> and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable modem. 

> The short answer is "you can't".  The cable modem is a modem that
> plugs into a single PC and gives you a single IP address.

> The slightly longer answer is that there are systems that let your
> entire network hide behind a single IP address, doing translation on
> the fly.  (The three-letter acronym is NAT.)  Dedicated NAT boxes tend
> to be expensive but you might be able to find freeware for Linux.

> If you can get NAT set up, you'd plug the cable modem into the box
> running NAT, then connect all the other computers to that one using a
> regular Ethernet separate from the cable modem.  If this sounds like
> it's more trouble than it's worth, you're probably right.

Check out the FireSock software from the makers of Trumpet Winsock.  I
saw it at TUCOWS, and it looks just like what you are looking for and
isn't very expensive.

------------------------------

From: mark_brukhartz@il.us.swissbank.com (Mark Brukhartz)
Subject: Re: 800/888 Problem; Suggestions Welcome
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:19:39 GMT


It would be more elegant to reserve a set of ten area codes for
toll-free numbers, such as 880 through 889. That would permit
eight-letter words to be used as telephone numbers.

    ``Call 1-88-BUY-STUFF. Operators are standing by.''

Since 880 (and 881) end with letterless numbers, they would be ideal for
pager, personal toll-free and other non-branded telephone numbers.

The existing 800 (and 888) numbers would be preserved forever.

Everyone would win. Callers to branded numbers would need to remember
only the word. Seven letter words would be in area code 800. Eight
letter words would be in ``area code'' 88. There'd be about nine times
as many branded numbers from which to choose (800 and 882 through
889). Other users would benefit from the large block of non-branded
numbers for pager, mobile and personal toll-free use (880 and 881).


Mark

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 18:56:54 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: Its Time to Make a Change


New York 09/25/97 (ICB TOLL FREE NEWS) Recent industry reports to the
FCC indicate that 888 numbers may run out before 877 is scheduled for
release in April 98.  Indeed, the industry is quietly seeking ways
to speed up the introduction of 877.

Minutes from a February 97 SNAC (SMS/800 Number Administration
Committee) meeting, note that based on the average usage during the
prior three months of November, December and January, 888 exhaust would
occur sometime in July, 1998.

Given the 30-year run of 800, even that 3-year 888 shelf-life is absurd,
further strengthening arguments for toll-free SAC partitioning as
necessary for resource management, as well as marketplace application,
survival.  

What is accelerating the depletion even beyond industry expectations? 
Didn't the  FCC's April Report and Order set in place mechanisms that
were supposed to stem this tide?  Wasn't that, after all, its sole
purpose?

Marketshare Versus Depletion by RespOrg

RespOrg Share of Working 800 Numbers as of October 1, 1996

MCI				26.06%
AT&T				22.34%
WILTEL/LDDS WORLDCOM		13.53%
SPRINT				 7.97%
FRONTIER/ALLNET/RCI		 6.07%
STENTOR				 2.51%
LCI				 2.25%
NYNEX/BELL ATLANTIC		 2.05%
PAC BELL/SW BELL		 1.45%
CABLE & WIRELESS		 1.20%
ALL OTHERS			14.57%
INDUSTRY		       100.00%	

In October, 1996, the two largest RespOrgs, AT&T and MCI, had 1.6 and
1.9 million toll-free numbers, respectively.  That's combined 800 and
888, business and residential service.

Today, AT&T insiders report a slight decrease in toll-free revenue,
combined with a growth in toll-free minutes, and a nmarketshare increase
who's growth is fairly consistent with the industry as a whole. 
Bringing their total toll-free number base, as of September 1, 1997, to
2,112,312  --  an increase of a half-a-million toll-free numbers,
encompassing both 800 and 888, over the course of past the year.

Some other carriers as well, have actually maintained or lowered their
share of numbers in recent weeks, whether by attrition or otherwise,
but certainly not lining their coffers at this critical time.  Those
carriers include Allnet, Stentor, Cable & Wireless, and US West.

But what of the rest?  

MCI, according to industry insiders, lost marketshare in minutes, yet
increased its toll-free number base during the past year by 1.6 million,
to 3,521,538 -- nearly doubling its entire pool.  Indeed, during the
week of August 23 to September 1 alone, MCI increased its holdings by
25,000 numbers.

During that same week, AT&T acquired 10,500, Sprint 22,980, and Wiltel
24,000 toll free numbers.  In total, there are now only 2.6 million
toll-free numbers left to last through April 98, with 115,000 pulled
out in the last week alone.   

Clearly there are some RespOrgs performing reasonably responsibly, such
as Cable & Wireless, and others mentioned above.  Similarly, with its
huge customer base overall, we do not begrudge AT&T a half-a-million-
number increase over a 12 month period.  Indeed, AT&T recently told
ICB that it intends to shift its focus away from marketshare, to
profitability, caring less how many numbers it has in its vast stable,
than how much revenue each account is driving.  A reasonable business
proposition, to be sure, and one that coincidentally does not conflict
with resource management as a whole.

Additionally, AT&T has publicly supported user-rights measures that
would further alleviate depletion and promote a stable number resource
foundation -- a stand-up move in a cut-throat business that is
forthright, bold, and forward-thinking. 

Given snowballing depletion, vast statistical discrepancies in a very
competitive marketplace, and AT&T's leadership support of some
unorthodox, yet very practical solutions, we have to wonder how long it
will take the FCC to reconsider its April Report and Order.

Because its 'resource management' mechanisms are clearly running 800
into the ground.


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 ...today's regulatory news for tomorrow's marketing decisions.
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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 27 Sep 97 02:22:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 262

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Bill McMilleon)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (John Lydic)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (David Abrams)
    Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP? (Dave Stott)
    Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP? (Fred R. Goldstein)
    Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP? (Nils Andersson)
    Re: Bell Atlantic CDMA Privacy Option (Fred R. Goldstein)
    Two ISDN Devices on One Line (Stephen B. Kutzer)
    Can You Say Partitioning? (Judith Oppenheimer)
    Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Eric Florack)
    Re: 800/888 Problem; Suggestions Welcome (Judith Oppenheimer)

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From: Bill McMilleon <billmc@mtco.com>
Reply-To: billmc@mtco.com <billmc@mtco.com>
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:33:26 -0500


On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:27:05 -0400 Marc Baime wrote:

> If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to
> get and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable
> modem. Can both machines run at the same time? Do I need a
> multiplexer? A hub?  Where does the cable need to be split? Before
> coming into the cable modem? Coming out of the cable modem?

> I have a NEC2000 ethernet card I used to use for a two PC Novell lan
> that I had set up in my home ... can I use this card? Are there any
> books on this subject? Any literature on the web? All replies
> appreciated. Please respond to mbaime1@tampabay.rr.com with any
> information on this subject. Probably be nice if you responded to the
> group also as I'm sure many inquiring minds would like to know.

Should be no problem to do this...

Use use WinGate (http://www.wingate.net/) as a proxy server - works on
Win95 or NT.  There's lots of documentation at their website about how
it works.  Sounds like you can use the ne2000 compatible cards for
your "at home ethernet" too.  I use an eight port netgear 10 base T
hub and have unshielded twisted pair cable connecting multiple
machines at home.  The nice thing about WinGate is that its "free" if
you only need one active proxy connection at a time.


Bill McMilleon
LAN Administrator/Applications Developer
360 Communications

------------------------------

From: John Lydic <lydicjw@idt.ch.etn.com.etn.com>
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 17:43:45 -0400
Organization: Cuttler-Hammer Automation
Reply-To: lydicjw@idt.ch.etn.com.etn.com


John R. Levine wrote:

>> If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to
>> get and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable modem.

> The short answer is "you can't".  The cable modem is a modem that
> plugs into a single PC and gives you a single IP address.

> The slightly longer answer is that there are systems that let your
> entire network hide behind a single IP address, doing translation on
> the fly.  (The three-letter acronym is NAT.)  Dedicated NAT boxes tend
> to be expensive but you might be able to find freeware for Linux.

> If you can get NAT set up, you'd plug the cable modem into the box
> running NAT, then connect all the other computers to that one using a
> regular Ethernet separate from the cable modem.  If this sounds like
> it's more trouble than it's worth, you're probably right.

IP proxy or spoofing is freely available for Linux, (it came with the
RedHat distribution) and is relatively easy to setup.  I'm in the
process of doing that now.  The only thing that can't be automatically
routed behind the proxy is UDP (RealAudio, etc) which as I understand
it may be assigned to a specific local IP address.


John
lydicjw@idt.ch.etn.com

------------------------------

From: David Abrams <dea@galactic.com.nospam>
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 07:57:21 -0400
Organization: Galactic Industries Corp


Search for a shareware product named "WINGATE" I have not used it but
my understanding is it is a win95 internet gateway which allows an
internal network to share a single external IP address.  A proxy
server will do the same thing.  We use the MS proxy server and have
illegal internal IP addresses.  Only the proxy server external net
card has a valid IP address.


David Abrams
Galactic Industries Corp
dea@galactic.com
www.galactic.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:53:34 -0500
From: Dave Stott <dstott@2help.com>
Subject: Re DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?


In TELECOM Digest #256, J.F. Mezei <jfmezei@videotron.ca> wrote:

> 800 (and 888) numbers are "router" based, right ? When I dial an 800
> number, the telco translates this to a standard telephone number,
> right?

> Why not do the same for *ALL* NAP numbers?

It seems like a good solution, yet I have to wonder about the network
load associated with such a plan.  Looking up every single number,
every time a call is placed would be a massive job.  For instance,
think about a radio contest, or tickets to a Rolling Stones concert
going on sale -- every caller requires a lookup for the exact same
number, thousands or tens of thousands of times every minute.  This is
on top of the normal call volume traffic.

Consider, also, that we are looking up every single number to satisfy
the desire of a small number of people who are only willing to change
phone companies IF they can keep their old number.  IF the service
they are receiving is so bad today, or IF the new entrant's offer is
compelling enough to change, we wouldn't need local number
portability, but let's face it -- in most cases the service will be
over the same outside plant facilities, maintained by the same
technicians with the same level of training and the same level of
desire to do a good job and only the switch will be different.
Consequently the level service won't change.  And the new entrant's
offer may be better, but only marginally so.

So is the investment in LNP worth the price to provide virtually the
same level of service at virtually the same cost?  Not in my opinion.
And yes, I do have a business that relies on my phone number being
accessable and somewhat constant, but I don't make service decisions
based on the cost of stationery.  If I have to change my number, it's
just one more reason to communicate with my clients and remind them
that their business is valuable to me.


Dave Stott
(602) 831-7355
dstott@2help.com
http://www.2help.com

------------------------------

From: fgoldstein@bbn.NO$LUNCHMEAT.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?
Date: 26 Sep 1997 15:21:45 GMT
Organization: GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies


In article <telecom17.256.3@telecom-digest.org>, jfmezei@videotron.ca
says ...

> 800 (and 888) numbers are "router" based, right ? When I dial an 800
> number, the telco translates this to a standard telephone number,
> right ?

The originating local exchange looks up the 800 number to determine
which IXC owns it.  That IXC then presumably does its own lookup to
figure out how to handle it, which might map to a standard phone
number or to a designated internal address on its own network.  All
quite fast.

> Why not do the same for *ALL* NAP numbers ?  You dial any number,
> and the telco translates it to an actual "network address" wherever
> that phone might be ?

> This would remove the need to constantly split area codes since there
> wouldn't be "area codes" anymore, just 10 digit telehone numbers.
> Need a new line, just grab the next available number. With more and
> more cities being split into different area codes, dialing 10 digits
> for ALL numbers might become more natural than having to decide
> whether one has to dial 7 or 10 digits.

That's essentially what the FCC's mandated Local Number Portability
will do.  As of a phase-in beginning in 1998, once anybody asks to
port a number, that prefix must change from today's handoff-to-CO into
a database lookup.  In other words, all calls to that NPA-NXX prefix
must be checked against an LNP database by the "n-1" switch.  The LNP
database supplies a "location routing number" (LRN), which identifies
the specific switch that the number now lives on; that switch then
receives the dialed number.

The FCC rejected an alternative wherein the terminating switch would
say "this number has been ported elsewhere, go look it up".  Under
that scheme, only ported calls would have caused database lookups,
making calls to non-ported numbers faster.  The selected scheme slows
everyone down, making it "fairer".  (I realize that Digest readers
could editorialize on endlessly here, and I choose not to belabor the
point.)  There's stuff about this on the FCC web site.

> Also, when one person moves, one could keep the same telephone number
> and the telco would simply change the routing tables. If one changes
> supplier of dial tone, same would happen. Keep your number, change
> routing table.

Yes, but remember billing is based on the dialed number, so if you
move to a different area, and keep your number, the cost of porting it
becomes your responsibility.  This opens a can of worms, so it's well
into the future.  Technically easy, of course.

> This would be quite similar to the internet domain name system.

But there is no explicit distance-based charging on the Internet.

PAT> Also, I have to wonder about database failures as happens
PAT> occassionally now with 800.

A risk, of course.  But there will not be one big fat national LNP
database; rather, each ported prefix code will have its own ported
numbers, and the telcos can figure out on a local or LATA basis how to
sort them out.  So a failure in, say, the Chicago database won't block
New York.  It wouldn't surprise me if, when the database failed, calls
defaulted to the ILEC owner of the prefix (pre-portability) so
un-ported numbers might still work.  I think this will end up with
third parties in charge.  


Fred R. Goldstein k1io
fgoldstein"at"bbn.com GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies,
Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850 Opinions are mine alone; sharing
requires permission.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:13:01 -0400
From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?


In article <telecom17.256.3@telecom-digest.org>, J.F. Mezei
<jfmezei@videotron.ca> writes:

> 800 (and 888) numbers are "router" based, right ? When I dial an 800
> number, the telco translates this to a standard telephone number,
> right?

> Why not do the same for *ALL* NAP numbers ?  You dial any number,
> and the telco translates it to an actual "network address" wherever
> that phone might be?

There is another issue, albeit of diminshing importance. COST. Both
the caller and the PBX or equivalent behind which the caller is
sitting might want to know if this is a call across the street (1c/min
or so) or to Barbados ( about 50c/min, IIRC). The same is true for
e.g. the payphone systems.

The proposed plan necessitates a standardized way to carry back this
info both in voice coded and machine-readable form, BEFORE the call is
finalized. This is not to say that it cannot be done, just that this
is a bigger job than the original poster may have realized.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: fgoldstein@bbn.NO$LUNCHMEAT.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic CDMA Privacy Option
Date: 26 Sep 1997 15:08:38 GMT
Organization: GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies


In article <telecom17.256.1@telecom-digest.org>, brian@his.com says ...

> And the other thing that was not true is the "Privacy" option
> on the Qualcomm phone.  Basically, it is the encryption in the IS-95
> CDMA standard.  She said that I wouldn't like it because it added
> about a half second of delay into the audio due to the processing;
> however, it would be available "shortly."  Well, I have never been
> able to get BANM to define "shortly."  Last week however, I finally
> got a somewhat-knowledgeable customer service agent.  She said the
> only thing on their service menu remotely like encryption is
> 'Transcrypt' and it was on the analog phones, not the digital phones.
> So then I send my fourth e-mail to BANM in eight months, hoping to get
> a higher-level response.  This time, they call me back for the first
> time.  A lady in Networks says they have no plans to activate the
> option.  Why?  "Dunno."
 
I've never heard of an IS-95 call being particulary tappable at the air 
interface ... what additional privacy is needed?

 From my reading of the IS-95 summary at www.cdg.org, it appears that
in the "reverse" direction (mobile to base), the phone chooses a
spreading code based on among other things its ESN, which of course is
never sent in the clear.  If you don't have the spreading code, it's
probably impossible or nearly-so to decode it.

In the forward direction, I'm not so sure about the security, since
it's not evident that there are unique codes for each "channel", just
separate phases of a common code.  But I may be missing something.
Anybody know?  If this is weak, then wireline-end echo might be enough
to make the reverse channel audio audible.

The keypad (not ESN) encryption method (CMEA) has been demonstrated to
be extremely weak, as it was one of those "NSA secret" developments
that left out the crypto community and turned out to be "hahaha" weak
encryption.  But that doesn't encode the voice or the ESN, and in
practice may not be crackable off the air since the cyphertext blocks
are so short.


Fred R. Goldstein   k1io    fgoldstein"at"bbn.com
GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies, Cambridge MA USA  +1 617 873 3850
Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 13:10:54 -0400
From: Stephen B. Kutzer <skutzer@mindspring.com>
Subject: Two ISDN Devices on One Line


A quick ISDN question: I have ISDN to my house with RJ45 outlets in 4
locations. To date, I've only connected to one of these at a
time. That will be changing in the near future when I will be
connecting 2 PCs. Can 2 NT-1's be connected to separate outlets? I
guess I'm a little confused on the "bonding" that takes place which
ends up, from my naive perspective, giving me dial tone on my two SPID
numbers. FWIW, I plan on connecting both PCs with external Motorola
Bitsurfer "modems". I understand that I can only have a dual-channel
connection from one PC at a time. But I'm wondering if (a) I can run
one PC across one SPID and the other on the second SPID, and (b) if I
can have phones and faxes connected to the external analog ports of
each of these modems (in other words, will both locations provide
dial-tone to both lines)?


Many thanks,

Steve

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:42:52 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: Can You Say Partitioning?


Partitioning - that's FCC-speak for separate domains for different
toll-free SACs.  

The industry originally denied the feasibility of partitioning with 888
because it needed to drain more and more numbers for pager and other
data services prior to the provisioning of 888.  Now that provisioning
can be speeded up, there's no more excuse.

The current system is bad for business, bad for customers, bad for
consumers - and terrible for resource management.  Let's fix this -
quick - before it's too broke to fix.


Judith Oppenheimer

                   ------------------------------

"888" shortage hits toll-free phone industry

By Roger Fillion 

WASHINGTON, Sept 24 (Reuter) - The toll-free telephone business is in a
crunch -- a numbers crunch, that is. 

Industry officials warn that demand for ``888'' and ``800'' toll-free
numbers is so strong they need to conserve the pool of unused numbers.
They want to avoid using up toll-free ``resources'' before a new ``877''
code is deployed next April. 

``There seems to be sort of a run on toll-free numbers,'' said Sally
Mott Freeman, spokeswoman for the Alliance for Telecommunications
Industry Solutions (ATIS), the industry group that monitors the
allocation of toll-free numbers. 

ATIS has asked the Federal Communications Commission for a hand to
implement a ``conservation plan'' in the face of booming popularity for
toll-free digits among companies and consumers, who clearly like the
convenience and price of the product. 

The use of the numbers in pagers, faxes and other gadgets also has
contributed to the squeeze, industry officials said. 

The toll-free codes let callers dial, free of charge, the party assigned
the number. Users, like mail-order companies, airlines and parents of
college students, pay a phone company or other toll-free provider a flat
fee for use of the number. 

Availability of 800 numbers essentially dried up in early 1996 after
nearly 20 years. The 888 code was introduced in March 1996 and was
expected to last through spring 1998. 

``We'll be lucky if it lasts two years,'' said Freeman. 

There are roughly 8 million numbers available with each toll-free
prefix. 

As of Sept. 20, there were 12.1 million 800 and 888 numbers in use and
2.6 million available, according to Morristown, N.J.-based Bellcore,
whose subsidiary operates the database that distributes the numbers. 

The proposed conservation plan would limit the number of 800/888 numbers
that phone companies and other toll-free providers can reserve for use
by businesses and consumers. 

Currently, the roughly 210 companies that assign toll-free numbers face
a ceiling of 2,000 a week, or 7.5 percent of all numbers they have
available for use -- whichever is larger. 

Industry officials are proposing the FCC to sharply lower the cap
applicable to each company. The cap would vary from company to company,
depending on the number of toll-free numbers each company has deployed
for actual use. 

ATIS told the FCC earlier this month that 401,051 new toll-free numbers
were assigned in August, up from a monthly average of 344,113 for much
of the year. 

Further increases, the group warned, would ``exhaust'' the available
pool before next April's 877 launch. At this point, however, officials
don't anticipate the kind of crunch that happened in 1995 with 800
numbers. 

The FCC at that time crafted a plan to slow the depletion and smooth the
deployment of the 888 code. Among other things, the introduction of the
888 code was moved ahead by a month. 

FCC officials are monitoring the latest situation. 

The convenience of toll-free numbers helps explain their popularity,
especially among mail-order businesses and other companies keen on
having customers call them. 

Industry officials also cite these factors as likely, or possible,
contributors to the depletion: 

      Greater use of electronic pagers, fax machines and voice mail
based on toll-free digits. 

      More use of ``personal'' toll-free numbers by consumers, such as
parents who have a student at college and want to give that person a
cheap way to call home.

      The approach of the holiday season, which prompts catalog
companies to request more toll-free numbers.
 
      Next year's launch of 877, which has spurred companies to try
and reserve remaining 888 numbers before they dry up.

``Once it was technically possible for many new categories of
customers to use them, the market found a way to use them,'' Ken
Branson, a Bellcore spokesman, said of toll-free numbers.

                         --------------------
 
   800/888           ICB TOLL FREE NEWS           800/888
 ...today's regulatory news for tomorrow's marketing decisions.
   TRY US FREE FOR 15 DAYS !!!    http://icbtollfree.com
(ph) 212 684-7210.  (fx) 212 684-2714. 1 800 THE EXPERT.
ICB Headlines Autosponder:   mailto:headlines@icbtollfree.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:34:55 PDT
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem


> Obviously Spamford was one of their leaders,
> but how many of the vermin still remain to be exterminated?  Any
> guesstimates?  PAT]

That's not the issue. The issue should be: "How many will rise to take
his place?"

Consider:

Spamford was merely responding to a market that already existed.  The
people buying what he was selling, assumed that the reaction to the
ads he posted for them would be responded to with purchases of the
product advertised ... enough to cover the costs Spamford imposed on
those customers. To some large degree, that must be a correct
assumption, given the number of repeat customers I gather he had.

Him going away under any conditions is certainly something to raise a
smile.

But will it solve the problem, or will someone else come in to take
his place?

Seems to me that to cure the problem, we need to get across to the
people spending money to have their ads spammed across the net, the
idea that it's not a good PR move.


/E

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Supposedly, Spamford was going to court
to get an order requiring AGIS to reconnect him. Does anyone know the
outcome of that?   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Subject: Re: 800/888 Problem; Suggestions Welcome
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:55:46 -0400
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com


Pending Rulings, Advocates Urge FCC to Protect Interests Of Toll-Free
Vanity Numbers; AT&T Lends Support 

    NEW YORK, Sept. 22 /PRNewswire/ -- Pending rulings by The FCC that
will affect how toll-free numbers are assigned and managed, ICB Toll
Free, experts in toll-free application and management, urge The
Commission to institute regulations that will, specifically, protect
the interests of toll-free vanity number users, such as 1-800-FLOWERS,
as well as resolve broader issues of toll-free number depletion.

    While it took 27 years for demand to deplete roughly eight million
800 numbers, experts estimate that the inventory of toll-free service
area code (SAC) "888," established in 1996, will be exhausted in less
than three years.  An April 1997 Report and Order by the FCC cited
concerns that RespOrgs, groups comprising predominantly carriers that
are responsible for toll-free number assignments, are influencing
depletion by "warehousing," toll-free numbers; that users are "hoarding"
numbers they have taken, but have no plans to use, and that both groups
are "brokering" numbers on the open-market.  All three practices are
against FCC regulations that demand numbers be allocated on a
first-come-first-serve basis, and are rooted in carriers' and end users'
desire to protect their investment in toll-free vanity numbers.

    Industry insiders explain that carriers who market vanity numbers,
as well as commercial end-users, who invest money to build equity in
their vanity numbers through advertising and marketing campaigns,
believe they should be able to protect their interests in specific
numbers.  Judith Oppenheimer, ICB President, an expert and consultant on
the use of toll-free numbers, and a user-group advocate, explains the
problem:

    "Confusion, costly misdials and loss of business can and do occur,"
Ms. Oppenheimer says, "if for example, 1-888-FLOWERS is assigned to
anyone other than the operator of 1-800-FLOWERS.  Such end users want
the right, therefore, to either replicate their 1-800 number when a new
SAC is launched, or to be given right of first refusal."

    However, "replication" and "first refusal" are, Ms. Oppenheimer
admits, only short-term solutions:

    "The real reason that toll-free numbers are flying out of inventory
so quickly," she says, "is largely due to the proliferation of data and
personal communications devices, such as pagers, that are devouring SACs
almost as quickly as they are created.  In a market crowded by personal
and commercial toll-free numbers, we believe all numbers should not be
treated equally. Possible solutions to the problem are evolving along
two lines:  First, a system, such as the one that presently exists for
creating domains -- website and Email addresses -- on the internet,
presents an excellent model for future toll-free number allocation. 
Notwithstanding its own inherent problems, the benefits of the domain
system are that it is open, allowing users, if they wish, to register
for and secure the particular address they choose, versus the current
toll-free number system that subjects users to carrier-controlled
assignment.  A second solution involves partitioning, which the FCC is
investigating, and which would dedicate the 800 SAC to traditional
sales, customer service and marketing applications, and provide other
non-branded toll-free SACs such as 888 and 877 for paging, voicemail,
and other one-to-one applications that require the utility, but not the
brand, of toll-free.  This would permit carriers and users to treat 800
numbers, not just as an access code, but as a brand that is readily
recognized by consumers, and can be openly promoted."

    Ms. Oppenheimer points out that, for once, ICB and AT&T are on the
same side of the issue.  AT&T, in fact, supports a recommendation to
continue to resolve toll-free numbering issues, by helping to put an
existing toll-free number customer of record in touch with a "number
seeker."

    John Cushman, Director of Toll-Free Services for AT&T also supports
ICB's view that specific toll-free numbers have intrinsic value.  While
he stopped short of supporting a proposal to legalize the private
commercial exchange of numbers, Cushman did indicate a desire to pursue
this area.  "I believe the arguments that ICB makes, relative to
toll-free number value, are supported by the history of the toll-free
industry, current RespOrg to RespOrg practices, and our customers'
positions on vanity number protection," he says,
adding, "We are putting our heads in the sand if we believe that number
brokering is not taking place in the marketplace today."

    An advocate for user interests, both carrier and corporate, and
visible presence on the toll-free scene, ICB has been advising business
owners, corporate marketers and the telecom industries since 1993.  ICB
publishes ICB TOLL FREE NEWS, the online journal of toll-free marketing,
regulatory and political issues.  ICB TOLL FREE NEWS web address is
http://www.icbtollfree.com.

SOURCE  ICB Inc.

CONTACT: Judith Oppenheimer of ICB Toll Free Consultancy,
212-684-7210, joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com

                    ---------------------

   800/888           ICB TOLL FREE NEWS           800/888
 ...today's regulatory news for tomorrow's marketing decisions.
   TRY US FREE FOR 15 DAYS !!!    http://icbtollfree.com
(ph) 212 684-7210.  (fx) 212 684-2714. 1 800 THE EXPERT.
ICB Headlines Autosponder:   mailto:headlines@icbtollfree.com

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Michael P. Deignan)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Mark W. Schumann)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Robb Topolski)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Bill Garfield)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Trey Valenta)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Jim Youll)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (amp@pobox.com)
    Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack (Steven Lichter)
    Spamford Rides Again! (Richard M. Sander)
    Moron Spammer Provides Toll Free Number (Babu Mengelepouti)
    Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP? (Derek Balling)
    Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP? (Barry Margolin)
    Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today (Ryan Tucker)
    Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today (Bear)

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From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com.nospam (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: 27 Sep 1997 17:06:07 -0400
Organization: The Ace Tomato Company


In article <telecom17.262.10@telecom-digest.org>, Eric Florack
<Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com> wrote:

> Seems to me that to cure the problem, we need to get across to the
> people spending money to have their ads spammed across the net, the
> idea that it's not a good PR move.

That sounds like a good idea. Are there any databases on the Internet
that list companies who use spam as a marketing tool? For instance, a
list of company names, telephone/fax numbers, and addresses would be
really helpful. If a sizeable number of Internet users spent a few
minutes and a few dollars in postage each week, maybe companies
providing Spamford with his business would think twice if they got
25,000 letters that all effectively said "it has come to my attention
that your company uses spamming as a marketing tool. For this reason,
I have added your company to my list of "never buy from" companies."
Or, something to that extent.


MD

------------------------------

From: catfood@apk.net (Mark W. Schumann)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: 27 Sep 1997 19:07:33 -0400
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site


In article <telecom17.262.10@telecom-digest.org>, Eric Florack
<Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com> wrote:

> Spamford was merely responding to a market that already existed.  The
> people buying what he was selling, assumed that the reaction to the
> ads he posted for them would be responded to with purchases of the
> product advertised ... enough to cover the costs Spamford imposed on
> those customers. To some large degree, that must be a correct
> assumption, given the number of repeat customers I gather he had.

Gather what?  I don't know he had ANY repeat customers.

Sure, he ran their ads more than once, but that doesn't mean the
customer was actually paying for the repeat or even wanted it.  Image
is everything.


Mark W. Schumann | catfood@apk.net
Why should I change or hide my return address to deter spammers?
I just loop the garbage right back at 'em.

------------------------------

From: rmt@bigfoot.com (Robb Topolski)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:11:42 GMT
Organization: KJ7RL


On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:34:55 PDT, Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.
com> wrote:

> Seems to me that to cure the problem, we need to get across to the
> people spending money to have their ads spammed across the net, the
> idea that it's not a good PR move.

I don't know about you but I'm not getting SPAM from Ford, Intel, or
Avon.  I'm getting SPAM from RGG at Box 14A in Anytown USA.  RGG
doesn't care about PR.  He's happy with the 0.5% of return on 14
million basically free e-mail ads.


Robb Topolski
Hillsboro, OR

------------------------------

From: wdg@hal-pc.org (Bill Garfield)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 17:01:53 GMT
Organization: You only wish you were this organized
Reply-To: wdg@hal-pc.org


On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:34:55 PDT, in comp.dcom.telecom Eric Florack
<Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com> wrote:

>> Obviously Spamford was one of their leaders,
>> but how many of the vermin still remain to be exterminated?  Any
>> guesstimates?  PAT]

> That's not the issue. The issue should be: "How many will rise to take
> his place?"

Perhaps, but hasn't someone now discovered what ammunition is
effective in bringing the offending host network to its knees?
Spamford's off the air, right? Seems to me what finally took him down
could be used to bring him down again and again, as often as it takes.
If it works for one, might it not also work for others?  It's pretty
hard to defend against a router storm.

> Spamford was merely responding to a market that already existed.  The
> people buying what he was selling, assumed that the reaction to the
> ads he posted for them would be responded to with purchases of the
> product advertised ... enough to cover the costs Spamford imposed on
> those customers. To some large degree, that must be a correct
> assumption, given the number of repeat customers I gather he had.

> Him going away under any conditions is certainly something to raise a
> smile.

Grinning from ear to ear.

> But will it solve the problem, or will someone else come in to take
> his place?

Oh I'd bet on there arising from Spamford's ashes -several- to fill
his void. Though perhaps AGIS might think twice before hosting this
type of operation again (burned child fearing the fire syndrome).

> Seems to me that to cure the problem, we need to get across to the
> people spending money to have their ads spammed across the net, the
> idea that it's not a good PR move.

You might as well try shoving soft butter up a wildcat's
backside. These advertisers are only going to fold their tents when it
ceases to be profitable to operate via UCE and usenet. Boycotting and
complaining had only minimal results.

------------------------------

From: trey@zipcon.net (Trey Valenta)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: 27 Sep 1997 16:42:57 GMT
Organization: Alternate Access Inc.


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Supposedly, Spamford was going to court
> to get an order requiring AGIS to reconnect him. Does anyone know the
> outcome of that?   PAT]

He did go to court and hearings lasted about all day. The judge has
said that she intends to issue her decision on Monday.


Trey Valenta	trey@zipcon.net	 Seattle, WA

------------------------------

From: jim@newmediagroup.com (Jim Youll)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:55:41 -0400
Organization: Agent Zero Communications


Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com> wrote:

>> Obviously Spamford was one of their leaders,
>> but how many of the vermin still remain to be exterminated?  Any
>> guesstimates?  PAT]

> That's not the issue. The issue should be: "How many will rise to take
> his place?"

> Consider:

> Spamford was merely responding to a market that already existed.  The
> people buying what he was selling, assumed that the reaction to the
> ads he posted for them would be responded to with purchases of the
> product advertised ... enough to cover the costs Spamford imposed on
> those customers. To some large degree, that must be a correct
> assumption, given the number of repeat customers I gather he had.

I disagree. He created a segment of that market by inventing demand
(i.e. 'willing recipients' and the myth that people WANT to receive
get-rich quick scams and pornos in their e-mail). He also built the
business on the premise that "selling" means forcing your message on
your victims until they submit and buy your ridiculous product.

This is not a legitimate premise for business, and cannot be sustained
in any market.

> Him going away under any conditions is certainly something to raise a
> smile.

The flow of trash into my systems is slowed considerably, and I am
getting more work done. This is good.

> But will it solve the problem, or will someone else come in to take
> his place?

If someone does, they too will be forced off the net. It's untenable.

> Seems to me that to cure the problem, we need to get across to the
> people spending money to have their ads spammed across the net, the
> idea that it's not a good PR move.

Companies that understand anything about PR and marketing do not do
this. At the worst, they do it a couple of times and realize they really
blew it. And companies that haven't even tried it yet (real companies
with real products and real customers) are learning from the mistakes of
the first misguided pioneers, and will not be included to follow
blindly.

You will not see Procter and Gamble sending you ten to twenty ads per
week through masked points of origin. Legitimate companies know that
antagonizing potential customers DURING THE SOLICITATION is not a
particularly good way to actually make a sale. Point made, I
guess. Real companies don't do a LOT of things because they have
nothing to gain by pissing people off. Sanford's customers have
nothing, and so have nothing to lose. It's quite different.

------------------------------

From: amp@pobox.com
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:23:10 -0500
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack


raphael@willy.cs.mcgill.ca (Louis Raphael) wrote:

> Judging by my IN.spam box, I'd say that the latest plug-pulling dealt
> with about 1/2 of the spammers (by volume) out there. There aren't
> that many spammers -- it's just that they are harmful out of proportion
> to their numbers. My IN.spam box receives about 2-3/day, compared to
> about 5-10 before 'Promo went down.

The spam problem had gotten so bad with my mcimail address, that I
finally made use of the filtering options provided by mci to
automatically reject all email from the internet. Sounds pretty
drastic eh? Considering I'd not sent any email of note from this
account for over three years, one would think the spam would
eventually taper off, but it just kept increasing. Somehow I got on
one of those lists a long time ago (most likely from my PGP key), and
it hasn't let up because the address was obviously good.

It's good to hear that someone is actually doing what needs to be done
to shut Spamford down. Like Pat, I would =never= condone violence
against spammers. Nor would I tie them to the back of a train by the
neck with a nice, sturdy bit of hemp rope. However, human nature being
what it is, I'd advise spammers like Wallace to get good bodyguards
that don't have email addresses. (If they used email they'd be too
likely to do the scum in themselves).


Name: amp
E-mail: amp at pobox dot com
Date: 09/27/97
Time: 08:23:11
Visit me at http://www.pobox.com/~amp

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 05:58:50 PDT
From: Steven Lichter <stevenl@pe.net>
Subject: Re: AGIS Pulls Plug on Cyberpromo Due to Ping Attack


Here is an article that should explain what is about to happen. I have
noticed that most of the UCE I get has dropped, but there is still a
lot.

AGIS PULLS THE PLUG ON BULK E-MAILERS

DEARBORN, Mich., Sept. 26 /PRNewswire/ -- Apex Global Internet
Services, Inc. (AGIS) the nation's fourth-largest carrier of Internet
traffic is the hot topic of discussion after disconnecting several
unsolicited, bulk e-mailers late last week for security reasons.

"The attacks were of a nature which not only threatened portions of
our global, public network, but other parts of the Internet as well,"
said AGIS CEO Phil Lawlor.  "Our engineers simply followed AGIS
standard security procedures in shutting their service down."

Cyberpromotions filed suit against AGIS in a U.S. District Court in
Philadelphia for allegedly breaking its distribution contract.
Thursday; Judge Anita Brody heard arguments from both sides before she
would make her ruling Monday.  AGIS would not comment on the pending
litigation, however further comments will be made publicly following
the proceedings on Monday.

AGIS confirmed that all virtual private networks remained secure.  The
Company plans to announce more stringent acceptable use policies.

AGIS ( www.agis.net ), founded in 1994, provides Internet access to
millions of users via its extensive customer base of Regional Bell
Operating Companies, content providers, large corporations and Internet
Service Providers.  Always the technology leader, AGIS was the first
National Service Provider to offer commercial 155Mbps connections to
the Internet, the first to reduce points of failure in a network by
using switching technologies and the first to degign a wholesale
business model (so as not to compete with customers by selling retail
access).  AGIS offers Internet connectivity from 56Kbps to 155Mbps.
  SOURCE  Apex Global Internet Services, Inc.



09/26/97 /CONTACT:  Jason Delker of
AGIS Public Relations, 313-730-1130/


SysOp Apple Elite II and OggNet Hub (909)359-5338 2400/14.4 24 hours,
Home of GBBS/LLUCE Support for the Apple II and Macintoch computers.

------------------------------

From: Richard M. Sander <rms@sandrose.com>
Organization: GLOBALnet/The Sandrose Group, Inc.
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:13:07 -0500
Subject: Spamford Rides Again!


Hi Pat!

Here's the text of a fax we received today from Spamford <evil grin>
Looks like he's pulling out all the stops <even more evil grin>

 --- text of fax follows ---

GOOD TODAY ONLY! [note: we received it at 4:00pm EDT]

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(proceeds will go towards Cyber Promotions' high profile lawsuit 
against AGIS who single handedly injured thousands of small business 
people by disconnecting their lifeline with no prior notice!)

All of the following packages are now available on CD-ROM and shipped 
2nd day air to your door!

EMAIL LIST: 500,000 unblocked, deliverable money-making email 
addresses. Compatible with all popular email programs. Cyber 
Promotions has carefully selected these names of people who have not 
asked to be removed from email solicitation lists. Get these lists 
today, and make big money tomorrow! HALF PRICE --> $249

LIST X: Collect thousands of targeted email addresses every hour with 
this unbelievable software!  Now you can harvest web *surfers* too!  
You won't believe the features included with this package!  HALF 
PRICE --> $174

STEALTH BOMBER: Send out 50,000 emails an hour while cloaking your 
account id.  This is the ultimate mass mailer!  HALF PRICE --> $499

CALL NOW!  THIS SALE IS GOOD TODAY ONLY!

CALL 215-628-9780
and ask for BRIAN or ALAN!

Help support the fight to do business through email!

    --- end of fax ---

Need I say more? <g>


GLOBALnet is a division of The Sandrose Group, Inc.
2870 Peachtree Road NW * Atlanta GA 30305-2918 USA
+1 770 801-1998  Fax: +1 770 434-7569
http://www.sandrose.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So let's all call 215-628-9780 and
talk to Brian or Alan ... in a non-threatening, non-violent way
of course.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:58:51 -0400
From: Babu Mengelepouti <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>
Reply-To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
Organization: US Secret Service
Subject: Moron Spammer Provides Toll Free Number


Well, how kind of this spammer to give us not only a toll free number
but a valid email address to contact him ...

 Return-Path: <mhady@accessv.com>  
 Received: from vcn.bc.ca (root@opus.vcn.bc.ca [207.102.64.2])
    by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA16637
    for <prophet@arbornet.org>; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 23:34:50 -0400 (EDT)
 Received: from emerald.accessv.com (root@emerald.accessv.com
 [206.221.248.8])
    by vcn.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17488
    for <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT)
 Received: from mhady (port091-86.accessv.com [209.50.86.91]) by 
    emerald.accessv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17338 for 
    <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:03:35 -0400
 Message-ID: <3429F08F.33CE@accessv.com>
 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:03:11 -0700
 X-UIDL: 875300501.001
 From: Maher Hady <mhady@accessv.com>    
 Reply-To: mhady@accessv.com
 Organization: Trade Gate Co.
 To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
 Subject: Additional Income helps!


Dear Babu,


    I would Like to introduce Alive International manufacturer and
distributer of superior products for The exploding health and nutrition
industry. I'm a mechanical Engineer having my own company for Export to
the Arabian Gulf. I joined Alive International as an executive Advisor
and I started doing this business through the Internet this really
helped me to build a steady income online, Have the Internet work for
you while you sleep! 

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Somehow I 'accidentally' erased most
of this message while editing this issue ... so sorry! Oh well, I
did save the most important part; his name, address and phone.   PAT]

For more information 

Visit my web site: http://www.accessv.com/~mhady/alive/

or - Send me an E-Mail: mhady@accessv.com
or - Send a Fax to : (416) 352 5095
or you can call the Toll Free FAX on demand:
 1- 800-750-8781


Maher Hady
Toronto, Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:18:34 -0500
From: Derek Balling <dredd@megacity.org>
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?


> It seems like a good solution, yet I have to wonder about the network
> load associated with such a plan.  Looking up every single number,
> every time a call is placed would be a massive job.  For instance,
> think about a radio contest, or tickets to a Rolling Stones concert
> going on sale -- every caller requires a lookup for the exact same
> number, thousands or tens of thousands of times every minute.  This is
> on top of the normal call volume traffic.

So you handle it the same way the current DNS system works, with cached
versions of the numbers, with say a 12 or 24 hour lifetime before
re-lookups are required.

> Consider, also, that we are looking up every single number to satisfy
> the desire of a small number of people who are only willing to change
> phone companies IF they can keep their old number.  IF the service
> they are receiving is so bad today, or IF the new entrant's offer is
> compelling enough to change, we wouldn't need local number
> portability, but let's face it -- in most cases the service will be
> over the same outside plant facilities, maintained by the same
> technicians with the same level of training and the same level of
> desire to do a good job and only the switch will be different.
> Consequently the level service won't change.  And the new entrant's
> offer may be better, but only marginally so.

True but using national databases of this system as opposed to local
ones, you could eliminate the problems caused by small rural areas
using 2% of their exchange. (e.g. map the dialed number to a CKT-ID#,
and you can spread that underused exchange over a couple different
CO's) You could also, if implemented on a national scale, allow TRUE
number portability - something like the NPA-500 numbers were. You have
your number, and its yours, take it wherever you want, just update the
"Database" when you get to your new home, and the calls to your number
are now mapped to your NEW house instead of your old, regardless of
where you move.

Does that require a little "rethinking" in terms of how people think
and dial? Yes. But think about it this way -- by mapping a telephone
number to a circuit ID using a databasing system like that, the
database query could return back all sorts of information -- toll or
local, mileage, rate information, and PBX's could be programmed just
ONCE how to react. No more dealing with AC splits and having to
reprogram your PBX every six months.  Your PBX behaves just like it
always has -- It queries the number, gets the CKT-ID [and presumably a
path of how to connect to it], the rate information, etc. and confirms
whether or not to complete the call based on the PBX's programming.

For consumers afraid of making accidental long distance calls, the
system could simply sound a tone upon completion of the lookup,
indicating that the call is free or local, or some other way to be
determined.

Just a thought.


Derek J. Balling         
dredd@megacity.org       
http://www.megacity.org/ 

------------------------------

From: Barry Margolin <barmar@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: Re: Re DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?
Date: 27 Sep 1997 12:45:58 -0400
Organization: GTE Internetworking, Cambridge, MA


In article <telecom17.262.4@telecom-digest.org>, Dave Stott
<dstott@2help.com> wrote:

> think about a radio contest, or tickets to a Rolling Stones concert
> going on sale -- every caller requires a lookup for the exact same
> number, thousands or tens of thousands of times every minute.  This is
> on top of the normal call volume traffic.

Caching is your friend.  That's how the DNS system works.  Once a CO
looks up a number in the central database, it can keep it in memory
for a while.  So if thousands of people in the same area are calling
the same number it shouldn't require thousands of database lookups.

> Consider, also, that we are looking up every single number to satisfy
> the desire of a small number of people who are only willing to change
> phone companies IF they can keep their old number.

Unless they expect ported numbers to be extremely common, it seems to
me that a better scheme might be to distribute a list of ported
numbers to all the CO's periodically.  The CO would check for the
dialed number in this list; if it's not found it will route the call
based on the prefixes.


Barry Margolin, barmar@bbnplanet.com
GTE Internetworking, Powered by BBN, Cambridge, MA
Support the anti-spam movement; see <http://www.cauce.org/>
Please don't send technical questions directly to me, post them to newsgroups.

------------------------------

From: rtucker@crasher2.ttgcitn.com (Ryan Tucker)
Subject: Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today
Date: 26 Sep 1997 22:29:25 GMT
Organization: TTGCITN Communications, Des Moines, Iowa (www.ttgcitn.com)


On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:18:20 -0500, Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.
tcs.tulane.edu> spewed:

> Also, I have described the story as I have heard it on several of its
> performances by Agnes Morehead on Suspense. A motion picture version
> of "Sorry, Wrong Number" was also done, starring Miss Barbara
> Stanwyck.  who also starred in the "Lux Radio Theater" recreation of

I decided to check on that, and it looks like it's playing on Turner
Classic Movies on October 19th at 8:30pm Central:

Sorry, Wrong Number (Suspense) A wealthy hypochondriac overhears a
murder plot.  (B/W) Barbara Stanwyck, Burt Lancaster. (1948) (1 hr.
29 mins.) TCM - 119 Oct 19 (8:30P)

If you don't get Turner Classic Movies, then call your local cable
or satellite operator, yadda yadda.  *grin*... -rt


Ryan Tucker <rtucker@ttgcitn.com>     http://www.ttgcitn.com/~rtucker/
UIN: 1976881   finger rtucker@ttgcitn.com for PGP pub key/contact info
there's something quite bizarre i cannot see.. -Mansun/Wide Open Space
Origin address not hidden.   Why?   http://www.internz.com/SpamBeGone/

------------------------------

From: Bear <eddyj@agcsarmy.com>
Subject: Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:35:43 -0700
Organization: Sherwood Forest. Delete 'army' to reply by email


Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

> I am _NOT_ titling this post with "Last Laugh" as part of the subject
> line. While I do intend some sarcasm/irony further down, the
> fictitious situation described here is _NOT_ funny.

[snip - to save bandwidth]

An excellent parody - masterpiece! Thanks Mark.

But BTW, I could swear I saw a TV or movie version of this just in the
past couple of years. I recall her being in a pink (or white) penguoir
type gown. And I have a flash-back of the husband calling from a
wall-mounted payphone in an airport or train station corridor. It was
bone-chilling.

Was there a movie or TV version? Or just getting senile?


Bear

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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 28 Sep 97 08:27:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 264

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Bell Atlantic CDMA Privacy Option (brian@his.com)
    Re: Two ISDN Devices on One Line (Carl Knoblock)
    Re: Two ISDN Devices on One Line (junk-2-junkies)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Marc Baime)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Dave Padgitt)
    Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem? (Melvin Klassen)
    Sprint Billing Disagreement (Sylvia Caras)
    Help With Line Noise Please (Tony Ward)
    Re: Denver: Home Number Ringing on Mobile Phone (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    US West Hype-O-Matic  (was Re: Denver: Home Number ...) (Bill Levant)
    RBOCs Few at Telephony Conference (Eric Florack)
    Re: Radio Vigilantes (Paul Schmidt)
    Re: Radio Vigilantes (Tom Watson)

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 15:26:15 -0400
From: brian <brian@his.com>
Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic CDMA Privacy Option


fgoldstein@bbn.com (Fred R. Goldstein) replied to me:

> In article <telecom17.256.1@telecom-digest.org>, brian@his.com says:

>> I've never heard of an IS-95 call being particulary tappable at the air 
>> interface ... what additional privacy is needed?

> From my reading of the IS-95 summary at www.cdg.org, it appears that
> in the "reverse" direction (mobile to base), the phone chooses a
> spreading code based on among other things its ESN, which of course is
> never sent in the clear.  If you don't have the spreading code, it's
> probably impossible or nearly-so to decode it.

> In the forward direction, I'm not so sure about the security, since
> it's not evident that there are unique codes for each "channel", just
> separate phases of a common code.  But I may be missing something.
> Anybody know?  If this is weak, then wireline-end echo might be enough
> to make the reverse channel audio audible.

> The keypad (not ESN) encryption method (CMEA) has been demonstrated to
> be extremely weak, as it was one of those "NSA secret" developments
> that left out the crypto community and turned out to be "hahaha" weak
> encryption.  But that doesn't encode the voice or the ESN, and in
> practice may not be crackable off the air since the cyphertext blocks
> are so short.

Fred,

	You have missed the point of the thread.  I was replying to a
message about how Bell Atlantic Nynex Mobile doesn't seem to
understand how their CDMA network works in certain regions and thus
gives out erroneous information.  I was continuing that topic by
trying to make the point that BANM promised me one thing and delivered
another.  I wasn't commenting on the actual privacy option.

	It's like if when Caller-ID first came out and the phone
company told you that they would provide Calling Number only but in a
year they'd provide Caller-Name.  So you go out and buy the more
expensive Caller-ID Delux unit now instead of the Caller-ID unit on
the promise that the service would be provided.  You ended up wasting
money because you didn't need the extra feature.  I paid more for a
phone with the promise of security now and super security later.
Later apparently will never come.


Brian
And as always, please visit my home page at http://www.his.com/brian

Find my PGP keys at
http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=brian@his.com

------------------------------

From: Carl Knoblock <cknoblo@novia.net>
Subject: Re: Two ISDN Devices on One Line
Organization: Novia Internetworking - Omaha, NE
Date: 28 Sep 97 00:07:46 GMT


Stephen B. Kutzer <skutzer@mindspring.com> wrote:

> A quick ISDN question: I have ISDN to my house with RJ45 outlets in 4
> locations. To date, I've only connected to one of these at a
> time. That will be changing in the near future when I will be
> connecting 2 PCs. Can 2 NT-1's be connected to separate outlets? I
> guess I'm a little confused on the "bonding" that takes place which
> ends up, from my naive perspective, giving me dial tone on my two SPID
> numbers. FWIW, I plan on connecting both PCs with external Motorola
> Bitsurfer "modems". I understand that I can only have a dual-channel
> connection from one PC at a time. But I'm wondering if (a) I can run
> one PC across one SPID and the other on the second SPID, and (b) if I
> can have phones and faxes connected to the external analog ports of
> each of these modems (in other words, will both locations provide
> dial-tone to both lines)?

Your NT1 is an interface between the line (U interface) and teminal
equipment that runs on the S/T interface. Only one NT1 can be
connected to a line at one time. Several (up to 8) S/T devices can be
connected to the NT1. As long as your Bitsurfers can use the S/T
interface, you can do what you want to do. If they have built-in NT1
interfaces that cannot be bypassed, you'd better look for something
else.


Carl G. Knoblock                     Metro Apple Computer Hobbyists
cknoblo@oasis.novia.net              Follow the Yellow Brick Road to
cknoblo@delphi.com                   KansasFest 10, July 22-26, 1998

------------------------------

From: junk-2-junkies@sdem1.surplusdirect.com
Subject: Re: Two ISDN Devices on One Line
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:22:16 -0400
Organization: Erol's Internet Services


This will better be answered in the ISDN newsgroup, but here is what
I know:

Stephen B. Kutzer wrote:

>  Can 2 NT-1's be connected to separate outlets? 

No.  The U interface (that is the 2-wire ISDN line that comes to the
demark box in your house) can only connect to one NT-1.  If you want
to connect multiple devices, you have to do that on the S/T side of
the NT-1.  In the USA, most ISDN devices come with builtin NT-1, and
no S/T bus interface, that does limit what one can do.

> But I'm wondering if (a) I can run one PC across one SPID and the
> other on the second SPID, and

There are only a few ISDN TAs that let you do that.  I think there is
an ADTRAN 2x64.  The way you describe your setup -- no you can't.

> (b) if I can have phones and faxes connected to the external analog
> ports of each of these modems (in other words, will both locations
> provide dial-tone to both lines)?

Again, possible, but you would need a diffrent setup, where you have
an NT-1, connected to TAs (or routers, or...)  that have an S/T
interface on one "side" and analog ports on the "other side"

There are some great ISDN web-pages, see www.ccg4isdn.com or
www.isdn.ocn.com (and there are more...)

------------------------------

From: Marc Baime <mbaime1@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 12:11:35 -0400
Organization: Road Runner


Here's a response I received which wasn't posted here but which, I
believe, will work:

It is relatively easy to add computer to Cable Modem.  You need to buy
a 4 port 10BaseT Hub with uplink, another ethernet card for the second
computer and 2 pieces of UTP RJ45 cable.  I have a 3 com ISA ethernet
card in the original computer. I bought a Netgear PCI ethernet card
for the second computer. I bought Netgear 4 port hub and a 3 foot UTP
and a 50 foot UTP cable.  The 10baseT that currently plugs from cable
modem to ethernet card gets moved to the uplink port of the hub. Push
button in for uplink. I have the short 3 foot cable going from Port 1
of the hub to the first computer. I have the 50 foot cable in port 2
of the hub to the second ethernet card on the second computer. That is
all the hook-up.  

Now you need to configure your account on roadrunner and add a sub
account.  You assign ID and password. The second user will log in and
change his password.  You will need to add a line to: in Control
Panel/Internet/Connection/Advanced-Exceptions
[ams-server;login-server:8080;ftp://;gopher://] without brackets.  The
master computer will have port 8080 or what ever you have now. The
second computer will have 8081. Add the exceptions line to all
systems.  Change all proxy port numbers on sub-computers.  Their, now
you have two or more computers that can access Road Runner at the same
time with out speed loss. Mine works great. I'll never go back to
modem ISP's.

------------------------------

From: Dave Padgitt <dp@enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 20:57:29 -0500
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server
Reply-To: dp@enteract.com


On a related note, I have heard of networks that can distribute info
around the house over phone lines instead of coax.  Does anyone know
where I can find such a product?  Any thoughts as to quality,
reliability, cost, etc?

------------------------------

From: klassen@UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up Two Computers to a Cable Modem?
Date: 26 Sep 1997 16:34:30 -0700
Organization: University of Victoria


Marc Baime <mbaime1@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> If possible, I would appreciate some detailed direction on what to get
> and how to setup for a second computer on a single cable modem.  
> Any literature on the web?  

For the IBM OS/2 Warp environment, see "My Little LAN"; the URL is:
http://www.iinet.net.au/~summer/OS2/MyLan.html

> Can both machines run at the same time?  
> Do I need a multiplexer? A hub?
> Where does the cable need to be split? 
> Before coming into the cable modem? 
> Coming out of the cable modem?  

Yes. No. No. Not physically, but "electronically" inside the first machine.

------------------------------

From: sylviac@netcom.com (Sylvia Caras)
Subject: Sprint Billing Disagreement
Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:19:40 GMT


Sprint Unclear on Billing Practices

I'd like to show Sprint that I have some who agree with me.  I was
referred here by one of the members of the spam-l list.

Please telephone, in the U S, 1 800 877 4646, and press enough voice
mail menu buttons to get to a live operator.  I don't know the
Canadian service number; it may be the same.

Or email, if you know a good address.  All I could find that didn't
bounce was webmaster@www.sprint.com


Please let them know you are calling/writing in reference to Cust #
182448994, 408 426 5335, and that you read about the controversy here
on the Internet.

And I hope you will suggest to them they should adjust my bill.

Sprint changed me to their Sprint Cents plan a few months ago on their
own initiative.  While I did later find out about the change, I never
received any written details.  What I thought I knew is that from 7 PM
to 7 AM, calls to "1 area code prefix four digits" (1 xxx xxx xxxx)
were 10 cents a minute.  One evening after 7 PM, I made a call that
lasted 73 minutes and was startled yesterday to receive a bill for
$73, $1 a minute instead of 10 cents.

Sprint told me, when I questioned the charge, that I should have known
I was making an international call to Canada, that the international
rates applied here and were different and that despite there being no
different country code for Canada and despite the number format being
the same 10 digits as for within the United States, that it was up to
me to have known the charge I was incurring.

Are they right?  They won't bend and have already billed my credit
card (because that was how I had authorized the billing duh!).  I've
cancelled Sprint and am planning to call the card company and protest.
As well, I'd like Sprint to know that I am not alone in thinking what
they have done is wrong and hardly furthers relations between the
United States and Canada.  Goodness - open borders and closed
telecommunication!

I've been with Sprint for about 15 years.  Bills have always been paid
timely and average $50 a month.  Calls have always been at prudent
times.  They don't even seem to care that I cancelled.

I'd like it if you'd call, and or e mail to webmaster@www.sprint.com


Thanks,

Sylvia Caras, owner, MADNESS
coordinator, the family of mad lists 
on LISTSERV@maelstrom.stjohns.edu
and at www.madnation.org
SylviaC@netcom.com  1 408 426 5335


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No Sylvia, they really don't care that
you cancelled after fifteen years. To their way of thinking, a new
sucker is born every minute. We've had lots of discussions here in 
the past about Sprint making changes in their programs without bother-
ing to tell anyone, and flat out simply violating their own contracts
in the middle of a promotion when they decided it was not to their
advantage to continue as it was written. Even if ten cents per minute
to Canada was not the established rate, a dollar per minute seems 
rather excessive, but Sprint has used 'bait and switch' tactics like
that for as many years as we have written about them here. Good luck
in getting an adjustment. My suggestion is you handle it by telling
your credit card company not to pay it rather than by trying to get
an adjustment from Sprint. What would you like to wager that if 
anyone reading the Digest did call, Sprint would either refuse to
discuss it or claim that no such customer number existed, etc?   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Tony Ward <tonyeo@black-hole.com>
Subject: Help With Line Noise Please
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 18:17:48 -0500
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc


I currently have two phone lines, one for voice and one for my modem.
My question is this: I have line noise on both lines (local radio
station).  I have installed a noise supressor on both lines (close to
modem and phone).  I currently have a 28,8 modem (connect at 26,4 or
24) and was wondering wether the supressor inhibits modem connection
speed (actually I can not connect without the supressor being there).
Is there anything else I can realistically do to stop the interference
and is it worth my while getting a k56flex modem?  Would it be better
to put a line supressor where my telco box comes into the house (if so
how?).


Many MANY thanks for your help.

Tony Ward  tonyeo@black-hole.com

------------------------------

From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <gordon@crashelex.com>
Subject: Re: Denver: Home Number Ringing on Mobile Phone
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:42:00 -0500
Organization: Crash Electronics, Inc.
Reply-To: gordon@crashelex.com


Donald M. Heiberg wrote:

> From the "Rocky Mountain News", Denver, September 24, 1997
> http://www.denver-rmn.com/business/0924west2.htm

> Customers can choose their existing home or small-business office
> numbers as their PCS number, and incoming calls to that number can be
> routed directly to the mobile phone for $4.95 a month. Or customers can
> use the separate number assigned to the PCS phone.

> After arriving at the museum, Mannetti explained that the technology
> allowing customers to use one number for both wireless and regular
> phones was developed at US West's Advanced Technology Center in Boulder.

> Major rivals were unimpressed.

And so am I.  I've been doing this for a couple of years now, on a
plain old analog AMPS cellphone, for $1.20 a month; I just ordered
"Busy Line Transfer" and "Alternate Answering" from Ameritech.  These
services cost 60 cents each, per month.  (Actually, it was an
Ameritech rep who turned me on to this.)

People can call me on the landline number and if I don't answer, after
4 or 5 rings the call goes to the cellphone.  If I don't answer
_there_, it goes to the cellular voicemail.  Having the Busy Transfer
feature as well makes the whole thing work as if I had landline
voicemail.  But I don't bother with voicemail on the landline; I use
the cellular voicemail exclusively.  Details in the "free advice"
section of my website.


Gordon S. Hlavenka    www.crashelex.com    gordon@crashelex.com
              Grammar and spelling flames welcome.
             Some of us still think it's important.

------------------------------

From: Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 20:49:59 EDT
Subject: US West Hype-O-Matic  (was Re: Denver: Home Number ...)


In issue 260, Donald Heiberg posted an article from the __Rocky Mountain
News__ that said, in part ...

> ...US West Communications turned up its new wireless service in the Denver 
> area Tuesday with a twist the company says is a national first: A 
> customer's home number can be programmed to ring on the mobile phone.

The company may SAY it's a "national first", but to this hype-impaired
reader, it sure sounds like "call-forwarding variable" on the home number.

Period.  

Now, if they meant to say that incoming calls ring in BOTH places
simultaneously, well that's a horse of a different color, but if so,
their flacks did a lousy job of getting the word out, because this
story DOESN'T SAY THAT !


Bill

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 06:47:33 PDT
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: RBOCs Few at Telephony Conference


 From TIPWORLD.COM:

** RBOCs few at telephony conference

Regional Bell telephone operating companies were conspicuous by their
absence at this week's Voice on the Net show at Boston's World Trade
Center. Bell Atlantic registered just one representative, U.S. West
also sent one, a source told Internet Daily. New media consultant Vin
Crosbie said "the telephone companies are here in one-sies and
two-sies, while the long distance companies, like AT&T, MCI and Lucent
are here with armies." The 30 exhibitors were primarily technology-
focused. Show awards went to Selsius Systems, Inc. for a LAN-based PBX
system allowing just one network to be used for data and voice
Internet transfers, and Voxware, for its VIPSuite software tools
designed to improve the speech quality of Internet-carried calls.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 20:42:30 -0500
From: Paul Schmidt <k9ps@k9ps.ampr.org>
Organization: pschmidt at viaduct.custom.net
Subject: Re: Radio Vigilantes


TELECOM Digest Editor noted:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Back in the 1970's there were a lot of
> guys with the knowledge and equipment to convert CB radios into ten-
> meter transceivers.

Then there were those of us who did it *LEGALLY*.  Those boards made
by Cybernet (with numbers in the corners like PTBM039AOX) were lots of
fun for those of us on limited budgets during the sunspot peak of the
late '70s.  I remember the thrill of working stations in England and
Russia on AM just below 29 MHz; of adding an FM detector chip and
tossing some audio onto the VCO to use one on 29.6 MHz FM; of turning
on the transmit oscillator to (kind of) demodulate SSB signals ...

Sure, I knew how to run them all over the illegal frequencies; but I
was in my late teens, with both amateur and commercial FCC licenses,
and was going for an EE degree, I saw no reason to risk my
future.. (although no doubt it would have probably been very
profitable).  There are still some of us who believe in right and
wrong.  I made enough money working on legal CB's when I was in high
school, then working in the repair shop for a ham equipment dealer
when I was in college.

I got the degree a couple of years after that, and now spend my days
making computers talk to each other...  It's nice to remember some of
the low-budget fun of those days -- and I don't regret passing up the
opportunity to make some quick (illegal) bucks.


Paul Schmidt   <PSchmidt@Viaduct,Custom,Net>   Bloomfield, IN USA
Amateur Radio K9PS             http://viaduct.custom.net/pschmidt 
ARRL Life Member        PGP fingerprint:  24 9F D3 BD AE E3 50 72
QCWA Life Member 26711  Linux 2.0.pre-31  23 AB A0 64 BB 9E 2B 8D
Cnhy Fpuzvqg  <CFpuzvqg@IvnqhpG.Phfgbz.Arg>:  rot13 for SpamBots!

------------------------------

From: tsw@cagent.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Re: Radio Vigilantes
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 18:26:59 -0700
Organization: CagEnt, Inc.


In article <telecom17.258.15@telecom-digest.org>, James Bellaire
<bellaire@tk.com> wrote:

<<<Much deletia about radio vigilanties>>>

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:

<<<deletia regarding CB (childrens band) radios>>>

> once the general public found out about CB radio then shortly after
> that (with Johnny Cash's song) it was ruined for everyone.    PAT]

It wasn't Johnny Cash, it was "C.W. McCall".
"The rubber duck".


tsw@cagent.com         (Home: tsw@johana.com)
Please forward spam to: annagram@hr.house.gov (my Congressman), I do.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you, and I stand corrected. But
as we have noted here in the past, accuracy of the details is not all
that important <grin> ... anyway, it was that very popular song in
the middle/late 1970's about the convoy of truckers running through
the toll-plaza without stopping to pay the toll which caught the ear
of so many people and made CB very popular.   PAT]

------------------------------

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 30 Sep 97 09:03:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 265

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Toll Free Domains (Greg Monti)
    Major Phone Cut in Mississauga, Ontario (David Leibold)
    Spam Analysis (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Now There is Spam in the Chinese Language (Robert Casey)
    Cellular Phone Purchase (Lisa Hancock)
    Just for Fun: The Payphone Project (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Long Distance Wholesale Club Free Calling Offer (Eli Mantel)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (J.F. Mezei)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Perry Quan)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (J.D. Baldwin)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Jeremy Radlow)
    Re: Spamford Rides Again! (Bill Walker)

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:18:51 -0400
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com>
Subject: Toll Free Domains


I've been reading with interest Judith Oppenheimer's postings to
TELECOM Digest advocating a concept of toll-free domains.  Correct me
if I'm wrong.  You advocate that business sales departments and
customer service centers should be the only parties allowed to have
NANP telephone numbers beginning with the magical digits 1-800.

All other users currently having 1-800 numbers shall be summarily
booted out into one or more other Special Access Codes, such as 1-888
or 1-877.

When a new user requests a toll free number from his or her long
distance carrier of choice, he or she will be asked (under penalty of
what?) just what the new number will be used for.  If it will be for a
sales department, the user will get a number beginning with 1-800.  If
it is for, say, a pocket pager, the user will get one beginning with,
say 1-888.

If the user *lies* to get a number beginning with 1-800 and routes it
to a pocket pager, what happens then?  Does the customer go to Telecom
Jail and do penance by being strapped to a step-by-step switch until
his or her hearing is nonexistent?  What new government agency will
administer this punishment?  Will the taxpayers pay for this
enforcement?

In spite of its unworkability, doesn't your plan of dividing toll free
numbers into groups based on what they are used for simply postpone
the inevitable?  Even if all cell phones, personal toll free numbers,
and pagers are kicked out of 1-800, won't 1-800 fill up eventually
anyway with legitimate sales departments and customer service users?
What do we do when the 7,900,001st customer calls up and wants a new
1-800 number and all of them are gone?  Do we open a new code, say
1-866, and assign them a number there?  Suppose the customer chooses
1-866-FLOWERS?  Or suppose 1-866-FLOWERS is *chosen randomly* for the
customer?  Doesn't that put us right back where we are today?  What
will your solution be then?

Actually, I am largely in agreement with you.  I say:

- Let customers have whatever toll free numbers they want.  Customers
should have ownership rights in their toll free numbers.

- Let 'em hoard as many numbers as they want.

- Let 'em pay $100 for two years to reserve a number, same as they do
with domain names from InterNIC.  The $100 charge would apply to
telcos as well as to end user customers.  Every time a number is
removed from the pool and taken posession of by any entity, it's
another $100.  No refunds if used less than two years.  When it changes
hands from telco to end user customer, it's another $100.  Every time
it changes hands, another $100 to the database administrator.

- Let people buy, sell, reserve, lease and trade toll free numbers at
will, at any price the market will bear.  It's like concert tickets.
Scalpers welcome.

- Let the owner of 1-800-FLOWERS sue the owner of 1-888-FLOWERS to
enforce his property rights, just like they would do with a real
estate boundary or a brand name logo.

Perhaps in another five years, people will finally get it through
their thick heads that toll free numbers are not "free."  They are
premium-priced long distance, which is marked up and charged back to
you, the consumer.  By then, maybe the FCC will have come to its
senses and dropped the distorted policy of subsidies that is driven by
exhorbitant access charges.  Domestic long distance calls will be two
cents a minute during weekdays.  Hell, that's almost free.


Greg Monti  Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
gmonti@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~gmonti

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:18:56 EDT
From: David Leibold <aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Reply-To: David Leibold <aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Major Phone Cut in Mississauga, Ontario


A major cable cut occurred in the Mississauga, Ontario phone service
over the weekend, affecting the Bell Canada Streetsville exchange
(Pearl Street DS0 central office, at least as of a few years
ago). Listed NPA 905 NXXes affected are 542, 567, 812, 813, 819, 821,
826, 858.

CBC Television news tonight reported that some phones could be out of
order until Friday, though most service should resume before that. The
reports showed temporary payphone setups in affected neighbourhoods,
apparently with free local calls available during the inconvenience. 

An early report with some of the details was in the Toronto Star, 28 
September 1997, which should be web-accessible for about a month:

www2.thestar.com/thestar/back_issues/ED19970928/news/970928A04_CI-PHONE28.html

(or failing that URL, go through www.thestar.ca into Back Issues...)

And the moral of the story ... "Call Before You Dig" (the telco
repair/cable locating folks, that is).

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:02:54 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Spam Analysis


Pat:

The following is something I did about two months ago to get a better 
understanding of the kind of "unsolicitied commercial email" that 
is being spewed into my mailbox.  Readers of TELECOM Digest may 
find it of interest, particularly the observations about:

   1. the *size* of the typical spam email message versus 
      the that of the typical legitimate individual message;

   2. the volume of spam compared with legitimate messages 
      (other than subscribed mailing lists and other solicited 
      bulk mail);

   3. the apparent evolution of a subset of standard English 
      punctuation which might be called 'spammese'.


  From: oldbear@arctos.com (The Old Bear)
  Subject: the case of the telltale exclamation point !
  Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:48:18 -0400

Since the beginning of the year, rather than deleting email SPAM, I
have been filtering it off into a file called "SPAM" for purposes of
intellectual curiosity.

Well, it being a slow Friday afternoon, I decided to do some analysis.

First, let me say that I already filter the 'from:' field to sort 
mail from subscribed lists and newsletters into appropriate folders.
That reduces the mail volume in my general in-box considerably.

I also filter mail from about ten individuals from whom I regularly 
expect to receive mail into a priority folder.

That left 2,195 messages as "general" in-box material, or for the 213 
days, an average of 10.3 unclassified messages per day.

Of these 2,195 messages, I had manually sorted out 715 "spam" messages, 
or roughly 32% of the total unclassified message traffic.

It should be noted that on a 'number of bytes' basis, the percentage
of "spam" is much larger, totally 3,385KB of 6,809KB, or 50%.  This
means that the average "spam" email is 4.74KB compared with the
average "real" e-mail being only 2.31KB including headers.  A very
scary statistic.

Having noticed that spammers are not only verbose, but have a propensity 
to use needless exclamation points in the subject line, I decided to 
see what would happen if I filtered out any email message from the 
unclassified message traffic which contained a "!" in the subject line.

Of 715 spams, 262 messages were selected -- a detection rate of 37%.

Of 1480 "real" messages, 75 were selected -- a false positive rate of 
only 5%.

A further examination of the "false positives" showed that 22 of 
them related to the contact management software "ACT!" made by 
Symantec and about which I had been in correspondence with several 
other users at one point earlier in the year.  Obviously, an 
unfortunate choice of product name. 

Another 20 messages were replies to subject lines containing "!" 
which I foolishly had originated myself, such as "Happy birthday!"  
and "thanks!" -- something I pledge never to do again.

That brings random "false positives" to 33, or 2% which may or may not 
be an acceptable level to any particular email user.

In summary, based upon my sample (your mileage may vary), just 
filtering for exclamation points intercepts 37% of incoming "spam" 
while erroneously intercepting only 2% of bona fide message traffic.

Personally, manually trashing ten messages per day is not so onerous
that I would risk losing 2% of my valid unclassified email.  But it
does provide some indication of how "intelligent" filtering might be
possible under current circumstances.

Unfortuantely, 'professional' spammers eventually will figure out the
filtering algorithms much like professional tax advisors have figured
out what provokes an electronic IRS audit flag, or how shrewd job
applicants have figured out what will get their resumes flagged by
personnel departments which use electronic scanning.

Even so, most of the annoying amateur multi-level marketing and chain 
letter garbage is so stupidly constructed that taking it out of the 
mailstream should be relatively easy -- even though doing it at the 
end point remains a tremendously inefficient use of resources.


Cheers,

The Old Bear

------------------------------

From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey)
Subject: Now There is Spam in the Chinese Language
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:01:56 GMT


Yesterday in "rec.audio.tubes" saw a post that was unreadable (not
just a language that uses the ASCII character set, but special code to
send info to special reader software to write the message in Chinese
characters).  Figured that some audiophile in Japan or similar posted
something related to audio, and just forgot to translate it first into
English and ASCII.  Dumb move, but I've done dumb things before
myself.  Posted a followup asking for English.  Another person in the
newsgroup says that it's just a spam message from Taiwan.  Nothing to
do with audio.

A good friend of mine owns an advertising and PR firm.  Talking about
the Internet with him, told him "don't ever send mass e-mail (spam)
because it will just anger millions of people".  He hasen't gotten
on the 'net yet, and unsure how to advertise (properly) using it.
Told him about SPAM and how hated it is.  I wanted to make sure he
doesn't get sold a "bill of goods" by some spammer "service" and cause
him (and all of us) a lot of grief!

AFAIK, a web page is an acceptable method of advertising something.
It doesn't get in your face like SPAM does.  

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Cellular Phone Purchase
Date: 28 Sep 1997 19:35:50 GMT
Organization: Net Access BBS


Well, I finally broke down and joined modern civilization.  I bought a
cellular phone today.

On the one hand, it's pretty slick.  They gave me the phone and after
a few minutes charging, it was ready to use.

On the other hand, dealing with them was very frustrating.  These
phones are very expensive to use, and getting accurate rates from them
was hard because I kept getting conflicting information.

* One brochure said I was billed from SND to END, regardless if the
  called party answered.  Another brochure said busy/no answer aren't
  billed.  This could mean a BIG difference in cost, esp since they
  bill by the minute, including fractional minutes.  I don't want to 
  waste a $1 on a busy signal.  That's ridiculous.

* One brochure described a large extended home area of 59c/minute for all
  calling plans.  Another brochure said the Basic Plan didn't offer that.
  Sales people were also contradictory on this.

* Sales people were clueless on how and when "long distance" charges were
  billed for calls within the home area.  The home area is rather large,
  and it's possible it may be cheaper for me to use my cellular than my
  regular long distance carrier off peak.  Also, they were contradictory
  if their long distance charges were _in addition to_ or _instead of_ the
  regular air time fees.

* No one could tell me how to use the phone outside its home area, if or
  when I'd want to switch "A" to "B", or how I'm billed.  I received no
  information on roaming.  They said if I were, say in Chicago and had my
  phone on, someone could dial my number and reach me.  I find that 
  surprising.

* Per my request, they sold me an auxillary battery.  But later I found
  out there's a lighter yet longer-life one (albeit at higher cost), that
  I wanted.  I assume they'll let me exchange.

* One salesperson said I could use the phone while charging off a wall outlet.
  Another said no.  (It appears not, given the design.  However, the 
  automobile charger appears to be designed to work that way.)

* They couldn't tell me the cost to replace the phone itself it was stolen
  or destroyed during my "contract year".  They said it depended on whatever
  was on promotion at the time.

* One salesperson said there's a $15 charge to switch between plans, another
  said no charge.

* There's a "landline charge" per call.  Some said 10c, some said 12c, they
  all said "sometimes you're charged".   By this point I was so confused I
  didn't bother to ask, other than to ensure it was per call.

* The same carrier gave out contradictory brochures at different locations.


I bought this phone primarily for use in emergency, I have little need
for it otherwise.  It appears given the billing system, that's how
I'll use it.  (Or I guess I should said I won't use it.)

Unfortunately, pay phone charges have become just as uncertain, even
with a traditional "Bell" payphone.  In some cases, even at $1/minute,
it may be cheaper to use the cellular for quick calls than a payphone
since they hit you with calling card charges up front.  (For long
calls, the payphone is cheaper.)

You know, I wonder if the Bell's are happy to let pay phone service go
away, since they'll make more money off cellular.  Poor pay phone
service (COCOTS, unable to ring back, unpredictable charges) is a big
reason I got this phone.


Lastly, I didn't see any models with rotary dialing.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think regarding the billing time
the clock does run from 'SPEND to END' however if the dialed number
is busy or does not answer then you are not charged. If the party
does answer then you are billed from when you first started the
call, i.e. first pressed the S[P]END button.  PAT] 

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 00:07:18 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Just for Fun: The Payphone Project


Amazing how people on the internet spend their time. TELECOM Digest
readers may be amused by this web site, as announced by its webmaster
below:

  --- Forwarded message follows ---

 From: sorabji@SPAMLESS.paranoia.com (Mark A. Thomas)
 Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.announce
 Subject: The Payphone Project
 Date: 25 Sep 1997 00:25:07 -0400
 Lines: 13

The Payphone Project, on the internet for over two years, has been
re-built and re-organized.  Use this site to find payphone numbers
from throughout the United States and Canada, and add your own
payphone numbers to this ever-growing collection.

       THE PAYPHONE PROJECT
       http://www.paranoia.com/~sorabji/resources/payphones/

------------------------------

From: Eli Mantel <mantel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Long Distance Wholesale Club Free Calling Offer
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:44:01 PDT


Several months ago, I got an offer to use the services of Long
Distance Wholesale Club (a divsion of Telco Communications) by dialing
their 10xxx carrier access code.

They offered interstate calls at 9.5 cents a minute, subject to a
monthly fee which would be waived the first month.  Additionally, they
promised 20 minutes of free interstate calls.

I made about six hours of calls under their plan in the first month,
and as promised, I was billed at 9.5 cents a minute and there was no
monthly fee.  However, I never got the 20 free minutes, and each time
I called, they said they would put in a credit for me, but it would
take two months to show up on my Pac Bell bill.

It's now six months since that first bill came, and I'm getting the
same useless story from Telco Communications.  I've called Pac Bell,
and they're apparently going to resolve it.  Admittedly, there's less
than $2 at stake here, but I'm wondering whether this is an isolated
incident, or whether they've given anybody the credit without having
to demand it, or if they only gave the credit to people who used their
service after the first month.

I would appreciate hearing from anybody else who took Telco up on this
deal.


Eli Mantel
aka the Cagey Consumer
www.geocities.com/wallstreet/5395

------------------------------

From: J.F. Mezei <[non-spam]jfmezei@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:51:05 -0500
Organization: VTL
Reply-To: [non-spam]jfmezei@videotron.ca


>> Obviously Spamford was one of their leaders,
>> but how many of the vermin still remain to be exterminated?  Any
>> guesstimates?  PAT]

Isn't SPAMFORD aware of all the hatred against him? If extremely
unpopular politicians fear for their lives, shouldn't he? Does anyone
know if he has to take extra steps to protect his own security? Or is
he so naive to think that he is popular and is doing the world a great
service/favour?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:59:21 -0400
From: Perry Quan <gumby@inforamp.net>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem


Michael P. Deignan <kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com.nospam> wrote in article
<telecom17.263.1@telecom-digest.org>:

[snip]

> list of company names, telephone/fax numbers, and addresses would be
> really helpful. If a sizeable number of Internet users spent a few
> minutes and a few dollars in postage each week, maybe companies
> providing Spamford with his business would think twice if they got
> 25,000 letters that all effectively said "it has come to my attention
> that your company uses spamming as a marketing tool. For this reason,
> I have added your company to my list of "never buy from" companies."
> Or, something to that extent.

This would be an excellent idea if the Spamford's customers were
reputable outfits.  But they aren't.  The spam consists of frauds,
pyramid schemes, and sex sites.  Any form of consumer boycott won't
work with these spammers since they don't care how many people they
annoy.

Since the cost of spamming is low, the spammers need only a very
miniscule return to profit.  It's not going to stop until the cost of
spamming oustrips the return.

------------------------------

From: baldwin@netcom.com (J.D. Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Organization: Revealed on a need-to-know basis
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:23:02 GMT


In article <telecom17.263.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jim Youll
<jim@newmediagroup.com> wrote:

>> Seems to me that to cure the problem, we need to get across to the
>> people spending money to have their ads spammed across the net, the
>> idea that it's not a good PR move.

> Companies that understand anything about PR and marketing do not do
> this. At the worst, they do it a couple of times and realize they really
> blew it. And companies that haven't even tried it yet (real companies
> with real products and real customers) are learning from the mistakes of
> the first misguided pioneers, and will not be included to follow
> blindly.

I hope you're right, but the early indications aren't good.  Barnes &
Noble and amazon.com are "real" companies and engage in spamming.  And
over the weekend, I got spam from Bell South.  Grrrrrrrr.


 From the catapult of J.D. Baldwin  |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_    Finger baldwin@netcom.com |+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  for PGP public    |+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /         key information.  |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:01:56 -0400
From: Jeremy Radlow <radlow@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem


Robb Topolski wrote:

> I don't know about you but I'm not getting SPAM from Ford, Intel, or
> Avon. I'm getting SPAM from RGG at Box 14A in Anytown USA. RGG
> doesn't care about PR. He's happy with the 0.5% of return on 14
> million basically free e-mail ads.

But now that nobody in the US will host spamhouses, maybe solutions
that were rejected out of hand a year ago can be utilized today.

I remember hearing about a plan by ISP's to filter out spam at
the source -- mail has to go to TCP port 25, so you can easily
prevent your customers from connecting to any SMTP server except your
own, and then throttle traffic passing through your SMTP server.

I really doubt that a typical user needs to send more than 1,000 mail
messages per day, so restricting users to that level of traffic
wouldn't get in the way of non-spammers, but would stop spammers
before they could get started.  0.5% of 1,000 (and I bet the response
rate isn't anywhere near that high) is pretty insignificant.

This idea seemed impractical a year ago, because there was no lack of
places for Joe Spammer to go if he got kicked off one ISP.  With ISP's
consolidating, and spam factories being kicked off the net, asking
ISP's to keep their users in check seems a lot more reasonable now.


Jeremy Radlow   radlow@acm.org

------------------------------

From: Bill_Walker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Re: Spamford Rides Again!
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:09:18 -0700
Organization: QUALCOMM, Inc.


In article <telecom17.263.9@telecom-digest.org>, Richard M. Sander
<rms@sandrose.com> wrote:

> Here's the text of a fax we received today from Spamford <evil grin>
> Looks like he's pulling out all the stops <even more evil grin>

>  --- text of fax follows ---

> GOOD TODAY ONLY! [note: we received it at 4:00pm EDT]

> CYBER PROMOTIONS HALF PRICE ** BLOW OUT** SALE!

> (proceeds will go towards Cyber Promotions' high profile lawsuit 
> against AGIS who single handedly injured thousands of small business 
> people by disconnecting their lifeline with no prior notice!)

Did you have a business relationship with Spamford?  If not, then he
just sent you junk fax, and you can take him to court on it under 47
USC Sec.  227.  Gee, if every one of these solicitations for money to
help fund his lawsuit ended up _costing_ him $500 (plus legal fees), I
wonder where that'd leave his suit?


Bill Walker, QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA USA
Bill_Walker@qualcomm.com
Support the anti-spam amendment.  Join at <http://www.cauce.org/>

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 09:56:49 -0500
From: Dave Stott <dstott@2help.com>
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?


In TELECOM Digest #263, Derek Balling <dredd@megacity.org> wrote, in 
reply to my earlier post:

> Does that require a little "rethinking" in terms of how people think
> and dial? Yes. 

Indeed, it requires a massive 'rethinking' of number dialing in the
NANP.  As you point out, we would no longer know which calls are local
and which are toll, and by extension, we no longer know if we are
dealing with local or distant businesses.  This is very similar to
ordering something from an 800/888 number.  We don't really care where
the call center is located as long as they mail us the right item, and
we really don't care if the call is local or not -- since we're not
paying the bill, it really doesn't matter.

When I look up a lawn rental equipment shop, though, I skip all the
ones whose telephone numbers begin with '9', because there are no
exchanges near me that begin with the number '9'.  Instead, I focus on
the 831's, the 820's, the 345's, etc.  I don't want to call a 212-621
number because to me that means New York - quite a drive to rent a
trencher that has to be back by 5pm today.

> the database query could return back all sorts of information -- toll 
> or local, mileage, rate information. . . 

That's all well and good, but I can figure most of that out in my head
today by looking at the number.  If it starts with something other
than 602, I have to pay.  When we split or overlay 602 next year then
I know that 602 or XXX means local (i.e. free).

Your plan would also involve 10-digit dialing across the country, even
in the areas not affected by it today.  Most of the country (geo-
graphically, if not by population) does not require 10-digit dialing.
Under your plan every call would require both 10-digit dialing and a
lookup, just to determine if it was toll or not.

> and PBX's could be programmed just ONCE how to react. No more dealing 
> with AC splits and having to reprogram your PBX every six months.  
> Your PBX behaves just like it always has -- It queries the number, 
> gets the CKT-ID [and presumably a path of how to connect to it], 
> the rate information, etc. and confirms whether or not to complete 
> the call based on the PBX's programming.

Hopefully, it also tells the PBX user why it can't complete the call
if its programming won't allow the call to be placed.

> For consumers afraid of making accidental long distance calls, the
> system could simply sound a tone upon completion of the lookup,
> indicating that the call is free or local, or some other way to be
> determined.

When we already have a pretty good system in place, why are we
changing it?  Today, whether it's seven or ten digit dialing, we (and
most other people, I'd venture) generally know if a call is local or
toll.  There may be some confusion when ten digit dialing is first
encountered, but people learn pretty quickly.  If there is no
rationale to the assignment of numbers, we lose our capacity to
identify local vs toll without trying the number.  There is an
economic penalty associated with dialing a toll number vs a local
number, so there is a large disincentive to put such a plan in place.
Once the penalty is removed (either per minute pricing for all calls
at the same rate no matter what the location of the number you dial,
or by having someone else pay the cost of the call) then we can move
to nongeographic numbering.


Dave Stott
(602) 831-7355
dstott@2help.com
http://www.2help.com

------------------------------

From: J.F. Mezei <[non-spam]jfmezei@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:45:49 -0500
Organization: VTL
Reply-To: [non-spam]jfmezei@videotron.ca


Fred R. Goldstein wrote:

> Yes, but remember billing is based on the dialed number, so if you
> move to a different area, and keep your number, the cost of porting it
> becomes your responsibility.  This opens a can of worms, so it's well
> into the future.  Technically easy, of course.

However, I have this *impression* that more and more, long distance 
companies are going for fixed fee pricing (10 cents a minute anyone?)
irrelevant of where it is going in USA.

Also, local companies would love to be able to charge for every call
and some already do it.

Once local calls are charged X amount, and long distance are charged Y
amount, and the gap constantly narrowing, I do not think it
inconceivable that a lon distance call anywhere in Canada/USA might
just cost as much as a local call.

At that point, dialing a number would cost the caller the same amount
if that person happens to be "rerouted" to another city or be your
next door neighbour.

Lets take this a few steps further (ok, science fiction mode on).

Your telephone number becomes each household's internet domain name and
routers route both voice and IP calls to your household. This would make
much more efficient use of adress space by sharing voice and data over
the same network adresses (voice calls go to port X, email to port 25
etc).

It would also make some very interesting competition situations (or lack
thereof).

------------------------------

From: varney@ihgp2.ih.lucent.com (Al Varney)
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?
Date: 28 Sep 1997 13:36:17 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies, Naperville, IL
Reply-To: varney@lucent.com


In article <telecom17.262.5@telecom-digest.org>, Fred R. Goldstein
<fgoldstein@bbn.NO$LUNCHMEAT.com> wrote:

> In article <telecom17.256.3@telecom-digest.org>, jfmezei@videotron.ca
> says ...

>> 800 (and 888) numbers are "router" based, right ? When I dial an 800
>> number, the telco translates this to a standard telephone number,
>> right ?

> The originating local exchange looks up the 800 number to determine
> which IXC owns it.  That IXC then presumably does its own lookup to
> figure out how to handle it, which might map to a standard phone
> number or to a designated internal address on its own network.  All
> quite fast.

If the Toll-free number happens to be "supported" by the LEC, then the
first lookup will return an intra-LATA geographically-based number,
rather than an IXC.

> PAT> Also, I have to wonder about database failures as happens
> PAT> occassionally now with 800.

> A risk, of course.  But there will not be one big fat national LNP
> database; rather, each ported prefix code will have its own ported
> numbers, and the telcos can figure out on a local or LATA basis how to
> sort them out.  So a failure in, say, the Chicago database won't block
> New York. 

So far, inter-LATA calls route from the originating switch to the IXCs
just as they do pre-portability.  This includes the intra-LATA Toll
cases, if the LEC isn't the pre-subscribed carrier.

In general, each LEC will have redundant databases supporting a few
LATAs.  So a failure of multiple databases of a given LEC will affect
only intra-LATA calls FROM that LEC TO the failure area.  Calls from
other competing LECs (or calls routed to an un-affected IXC via
101XXXX dialing) will terminate normally.  (Note that LECs may share
databases.)

Database failure in an IXC network will affect calls via that IXC
terminating in a few LATAs, although some IXCs may initially cover a
large number of LATAs with one database pair.  Any failure should not
affect other IXCs, or LEC-handled calls in that area.  (IXCs may also
share databases.)

>   It wouldn't surprise me if, when the database failed, calls
> defaulted to the ILEC owner of the prefix (pre-portability) so
> un-ported numbers might still work.

This is an option in some jurisdictions.  What happens on a query
failure is that the call is continued TOWARDS the dialed prefix's
switch.  Each switch in the path may decide to requery (there isn't
any indication that a query failure occurred).  Ultimately, the switch
supporting that prefix could be reached, and it to will attempt to
query -- unless the number isn't ported.  So a failure in only the
originating LECs network may not block any calls, unless the
originating & prefix-owning switches are in the same network.  Then
only calls to ported numbers from that network will fail.

> I think this will end up with third parties in charge.

I'm not sure I understand what will lead to that scenario.  Third
parties may (or will) be in charge of coordinating number moves.  I
can't imagine a reason for a third party to own/control databases that
will ultimately offer different services to different LECs.

In article <telecom17.262.4@telecom-digest.org>, Dave Stott
<dstott@2help.com> wrote:

> In TELECOM Digest #256, J.F. Mezei <jfmezei@videotron.ca> wrote:

>> 800 (and 888) numbers are "router" based, right ? When I dial an 800
>> number, the telco translates this to a standard telephone number,
>> right?

>> Why not do the same for *ALL* NANP numbers?

> Consider, also, that we are looking up every single number to satisfy
> the desire of a small number of people who are only willing to change
> phone companies IF they can keep their old number.

I believe the argument to the state PUCs and the FCC was that the
desire of several large LECs to enter the long-distance market
required a "level" field in opening up the local-exchange market.
Several studies concluded that there were more than a "small number"
of people/businesses that were unwilling to change numbers unless the
price differential was significant.  Long-term, I don't see how there
can be a significant price differential.  So folks would be "locked"
into their original provider.

The exact same rationale lead to 800-number portability, and a
significant market change occurred as a result (vs. the IXC-ownership
of Toll-free prefixes).

I don't believe SERVICE dis-satisfaction was considered a big driver
in the local exchange market.  PRICE dis-satisfaction was, and
competition is supposed to fix that.  But only if not artificially
constrained by the reluctance to change telephone numbers.

I'll go on the record as being willing to change local phone companies
ONLY if I can keep my old number.  After you've had a number for >20
years, you'll feel the same way.  (Of course, I'm not sure my
$23/month bill will attract a lot of new competitors.)


Al Varney

------------------------------

From: bob.savery@hawgwild.com (Bob Savery)
Subject: Re: DNS Scheme For All Telephone Numbers in NANP?
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 05:31:00 GMT
Organization: HAWG WILD! BBS (402) 597-2666


DD> It seems like a good solution, yet I have to wonder about the
DD> network load associated with such a plan.  Looking up every single

Does anyone have statistics on the number of phone calls placed? Is 
there a computer system available that could even handle that number of 
transactions?

DD> number, every time a call is placed would be a massive job.  For
DD> instance, think about a radio contest, or tickets to a Rolling
DD> Stones concert going on sale -- every caller requires a lookup for
DD> the exact same number, thousands or tens of thousands of times every
DD> minute.  This is on top of the normal call volume traffic.

I would think it would be fairly easy to special route calls to these 
numbers. Telco's already do this in large market areas.

DD> Consider, also, that we are looking up every single number to
DD> satisfy the desire of a small number of people who are only willing
DD> to change phone companies IF they can keep their old number.  IF the

Looking at residential areas, this would be true. But business's are
the ones really driving for LNP. Some for economic reasons, some
not. I work for a large health system. In our case, changing certian
phone numbers (ie..ER, the Poison Center, etc...) could have deadly
results. Marketing types love magnets and such with phone numbers on
them. We own the entire 354 exchange, yet we're forced to maintain
about 40 of our old numbers (we completed the conversion about 3 years
ago) because people still dial them. At one of our other hospitals, I
recently assigned what I thought was a free phone number. It started
receiving 10-15 calls a day from people wanting various departments of
the hospital. I just happened to mention the problem to one of the
operators who'd been there forever (she cut her teeth on a cord
board). Turns out this number used to be one of the main hospital
phone numbers ... over 15 years ago!

DD> service they are receiving is so bad today, or IF the new entrant's
DD> offer is compelling enough to change, we wouldn't need local number
DD> portability, but let's face it -- in most cases the service will be
DD> over the same outside plant facilities, maintained by the same
DD> technicians with the same level of training and the same level of
DD> desire to do a good job and only the switch will be different.
DD> Consequently the level service won't change.  And the new entrant's
DD> offer may be better, but only marginally so.

Again ... this is true in residential areas. But CLEC's (at least here
in Omaha) are laying fiber as fast as they can dig trenches. But you
won't see a TCG or AT&T truck in a residential area! Over the last
couple of months, I've had offers from three different companies to
install their fiber directly into our phone rooms if we switch to
their service.

DD> So is the investment in LNP worth the price to provide virtually the
DD> same level of service at virtually the same cost?  Not in my
DD> opinion. And yes, I do have a business that relies on my phone
DD> number being accessable and somewhat constant, but I don't make
DD> service decisions based on the cost of stationery.  If I have to

Neither do we. The decision to convert to the 354 exchange was
mandated by the old exchange running out of numbers. Had that not
happened, we'd not have changed. And having gone through that, and
having to still dealing with the aftermath 3 years later, we will not
be changing phone numbers again.

DD> change my number, it's just one more reason to communicate with my
DD> clients and remind them that their business is valuable to me.

If it were only that simple! <G>


See Ya!

Bob

 * RM 1.31 3192 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates,1981

------------------------------

From: Dave Stern <dstern@garage.lucent.com>
Subject: Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today
Date: 29 Sep 1997 16:32:46 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio


According to the internet movie database (http://us.imdb.com) there
was a tv movie in 1989 that is described as a remake of the 1948
movie. There was also a hit for a 1977 French movie (Prostite, ne tot
nomer...!) aka SWN.


Dave Stern
dstern@lucent.com

------------------------------

From: raphael@willy.cs.mcgill.ca (Louis Raphael)
Subject: Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today
Date: 29 Sep 1997 03:27:13 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre


Two summers ago, I was in such a place, and needed the police, at 3am,
from a public phone, in a relative hurry. True, the phone number must
have been listed in the attached phone book, but I was very happy
indeed to have an operator connect me, pronto. In stressful
situations, the last thing one wants to be doing is looking up a phone
number. 911 is a good thing, and should connect to an operator
automatically where 911 service isn't available. I believe that this
is done in some places.

Louis

------------------------------

From: Eli Mantel <mantel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sprint Billing Disagreement
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 10:08:17 PDT


Sylvia Caras (sylviac@netcom.com) wrote:

> ...I made a call that lasted 73 minutes and was startled
> yesterday to receive a bill for $73, $1 a minute ... Sprint
> told me, when I questioned the charge, that I should have
> known I was making an international call to Canada, that
> the international rates applied here ...

When I read this message, I thought you must have been mistaken, and
that the calls were to some Caribbean country.  I called up Sprint
customer service, who transferred me to sales, who seemed to be unable
to quote me rates for calls from California to Canada.  When I called
back, I was told that the rates to Canada on the Sprint Sense
California program (without the international option) were 10, 25, or
40 cents a minute, depending on the time of the call.

But then I was told that these rates had just gone into effect about
three weeks ago, and that before that, they were $1.05 a minute!

I don't think these are typical "basic" rates for calls to Canada, so
I expect that Sprint simply created artificially high rates for these
calls as a way of offsetting their 10 cent a minute rate on weekend
calls to Canada.

To be sure, it is the customer's responsbility to realize that they
are making an international call, notwithstanding the fact that under
the North American Numbering Plan, calls to Canada and to the
Caribbean use area codes instead of country codes, and that charges
for these calls are usually higher than for calls within the U.S.

However, the practice of long distance phone companies notifying
customers of rate changes by small, incomprehensible ads in the Wall
Street Journal (which meets the legal requirements because the rates
are technically still regulated) stretches the notion of what
constitutes a legally enforceable contract.

In fact, rates are not regulated, so why should notice by publication
in the Wall Street Journal still be considered sufficient notice?
Obviously, it shouldn't.  IMO, although it's reasonable to expect that
you'll realize you're calling Canada, it's not reasonable to expect
you to know about the high rates Sprint charges for such calls, when
they never notified you of those rates.  Essentially, Sprint has
committed "deception by omission", highlighting their lower rates,
while failing to mention that their charges are outrageous at other
times.

By the way, I have a web page of "Sprint Lies".  Check my web site
under Telecom Scams.


Eli Mantel
aka the Cagey Consumer
www.geocities.com/wallstreet/5395


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note" A web page for Sprint's various lies?
Amazing ... was your system administrator willing to allow you that
much space on the system? I thought at geocities the amount of 
space per user was quite limited.  <grin> ...  PAT]

------------------------------

From: orin@wolfenet.COM (Orin Eman)
Subject: Re: Sprint Billing Disagreement
Date: 29 Sep 1997 18:58:17 GMT
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C


> advantage to continue as it was written. Even if ten cents per minute
> to Canada was not the established rate, a dollar per minute seems 
> rather excessive, but Sprint has used 'bait and switch' tactics like

FYI: I'm on AT&T's 10c a minute plan, but calls to Canada don't count
either.  I just happened to have an example here - 9:06AM, Everett WA
to Vancouver BC - 3 minutes $1.29.  Not too bad since GTE will charge
over 30c a minute for some intraLATA calls (fortunately AT&T can now
carry those at 10c a minute and sendhelp.com help out with the Everett
to Seattle calls).


Orin

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    Re: Toll Free Domains (Judith Oppenheimer)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Bruce Pennypacker)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Jeff Carter)
    Re: Spam Analysis (mustang@acy.digex.net)
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:07:31 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: Re: Toll Free Domains


Greg Monti wrote:

> I've been reading with interest postings in TELECOM Digest advocating
> a concept of toll-free domains.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  You advocate
> that business sales departments and customer service centers should be the
> only parties allowed to have NANP telephone numbers beginning with the
> magical digits 1-800.

I'm advocating that, along with your suggestions:

> - Customers should have ownership rights in their toll free numbers.
> - Let 'em hoard as many numbers as they want.

[for the sake of clarity, in RespOrg-speak this is called "reserved
numbers."  In the rest of the business world it's called "inventory."]

> - Let 'em pay $100 for two years to reserve a number, same as they do with
> domain names from InterNIC.  The $100 charge would apply to telcos as well
> as to end user customers.  Every time a number is removed from the pool and
> taken posession of by any entity, it's another $100.  No refunds if used
> less than 2 years.  When it changes hands from telco to end user customer,
> it's another $100.  Every time it changes hands, another $100 to the
> database administrator.

I've no problem with that.

> - Let people buy, sell, reserve, lease and trade toll free numbers at will,
> at any price the market will bear.  

That just as 900 is for pay-per-call, and 500 will follow you around,
800 should be for toll-free voice of the commercial variety, whether
your commercial entity is a small consulting firm or IBM.  The
marketplace has defined 800 as toll-free, many-to-one, for purposes of
responding to advertising, marketing, customer service, etc.  It's
worked just fine for 30 years, to everyone's benefit -- telco's that
carry the traffic, customers that receive and pay for the calls, and
consumers that get the services they need.  I call this a win/win/win
situation.

Pages and other primarily one-to-one toll-free applications, that have
every right to the *utility* of toll-free, and have no need for the
brand of 800, and indeed often suffer when confused with branded 800
numbers, would be much better served with non-branded toll-free SACs of
888, 877, etc.

> All other users currently having 1-800 numbers shall be summarily booted
> out into one or more other Special Access Codes, such as 1-888 or 1-877.

Yes, pagers can be moved (as I was myself years ago for my pager from
212 to 917.)  And as individuals and companies are today, across the
country, with all the area code changes.  

> When a new user requests a toll free number from his or her long distance
> carrier of choice, he or she will be asked (under penalty of what?) just
> what the new number will be used for.  If it will be for a sales
> department, the user will get a number beginning with 1-800.  If it is for,
> say, a pocket pager, the user will get one beginning with, say 1-888.

I don't want a 900 or 700 or 500 number for my 800 applications. 
Similarly, why would I request an 888 or 877?  I again remind you here,
as stated above, your reference to "sales department" is misguided.  I'm
neither suggesting, nor would I condone, any discrimination in this
regarding small vs. large businesses.  It's not size, but application
that I'm distinguishing.  

> If the user *lies* to get a number beginning with 1-800 and routes it to a
> pocket pager, what happens then?  

The benefit to this "liar" would be what?  If I'm a home-based business
requesting an 800 number for customers to reach me, (a) there's no lie,
and (b) I have a good reason to want that number.  

If, however, I'm a parent seeking a toll-free number for my child to
call home from college, why in heavens name would I want a number that
is going to be mistaken for an advertised number and cost me in
misdials, rather than a number that I'm only giving to my children
anyway?

The truly residential user (personal use) doesn't WANT a lot of calls. 
The business-residential user does.  I don't see where anyone would
benefit from asking for other than what they need.

> Does the customer go to Telecom Jail and
> do penance by being strapped to a step-by-step switch until his or her
> hearing is nonexistent?  What new government agency will administer this
> punishment?  Will the taxpayers pay for this enforcement?

Yes, in the cell next to those found guilty of violating the FCC's
April Report & Order. ;o)

> Doesn't your plan of dividing toll free numbers into groups based on
> what they are used for simply postpone the inevitable?

Here's where your suggestions kick in.  If I want a particular 800
number -- and it's already in the secondary marketplace, as most are
 -- and I can approach the user of that number and negotiate to
transfer it to me -- I've not depleted the resource at all.  I'll also
remind you that as of only one year ago, the two largest marketshare
telco's, AT&T and MCI, had between them only 3.5 million toll-free
numbers in service out of 7.8 million possibles, and that included
both residential and business, 800 and 888.  All the rest are on
pagers and other data applications.

Separate out pagers alone, and watch the resource replenish
demonstrably.

> Let the owner of 1-800-FLOWERS sue the owner of 1-888-FLOWERS to enforce
> his property rights, just like they would do with a real estate boundary or
> a brand name logo.

Here I agree with you.  BUT, under current law, were 888 FLOWERS to go
to some small business as a haphazard assignment, it carries the
freight for the misdials, and so is not well served at all.  Also
under current law, it cannot sell that number to 800 FLOWERS, but must
return it to the pool, to be picked up by some other poor fool to go
through the same thing.

There is no business sense in this, and no one served.

What's worse, what happens when a large marketer is assigned an 888
where the matching 800 is already in the marketplace?  Aer Lingus
recently started advertising 1 888 IRISH AIR, a new number for them.
However, the 800 version has been with a financial firm in Wisconsin
for years.  All of a sudden, this Wisconsin firm started getting the
airline's phone calls -- tying up their lines, and costing them plenty
in non-revenue-producing dollars.

Who benefits here?  Not the airline.  Not the 800 user.  Not the
telco's.  Certainly no consumers seeking either travel or financial
services.

So Aer Lingus bought the 800 number from the financial firm, in order
to self-correct the misguided call-traffic pattern.  Above and beyond
unnecessary cost and inconvenience to both companies, they were
literally forced to break the law (as did the participating carrier,
who facilitated -- aka brokered -- the transfer.)

Is anyone suggesting to me that this makes any sense at all?


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From: Bruce Pennypacker <pennypacker@altech.noagis.com>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: 30 Sep 1997 16:02:42 GMT
Organization: Applied Language Technologies


Jeremy Radlow <radlow@acm.org> wrote in article <telecom17.265.11@
telecom-digest.org> ...

> Robb Topolski wrote:

>> I don't know about you but I'm not getting SPAM from Ford, Intel, or
>> Avon. I'm getting SPAM from RGG at Box 14A in Anytown USA. RGG
>> doesn't care about PR. He's happy with the 0.5% of return on 14
>> million basically free e-mail ads.

> But now that nobody in the US will host spamhouses, maybe solutions
> that were rejected out of hand a year ago can be utilized today.

Am I being paranoid, or are we all jumping to a big conclusion here?
Phil Lawlor, the head of AGIS still thinks that spam can be a good
thing and that they can come up with a reasonable way of handling it.
About the only thing that we know for certian is that the spammers
were kicked off and that AGIS is going to revise their AUP (see the
press release at http://www.agis.net).  For all we know, AGIS finally
decided to strictly enforce the IEMMC guidelines requiring all
spammers on AGIS to filter through the IEMMC SMTP server.  Since
Scamford and others weren't doing this they may have finally pissed off
AGIS enough (what with the continuing complaints, etc.) that AGIS
finally reacted and canned them.  For all we know, AGIS could take
Scamford and the others back as long as every single piece of UCE sent
out by them and their customers is routed through the IEMMC server.
All AGIS would have to do is modify their AUP so that it says
something about a single complaint regarding spam that didn't go
through IEMMC or that contained forged headers, etc. being grounds for
immediate termination of service.

 
Bruce

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From: Jeff Carter <jeffc@shore.net>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:47:41 -0400
Organization: Interware, Inc.


J.D. Baldwin wrote:

> I hope you're right, but the early indications aren't good.  Barnes &
> Noble and amazon.com are "real" companies and engage in spamming.  And
> over the weekend, I got spam from Bell South.  Grrrrrrrr.

Well, my reaction to almost any spam from a "real" company is to reply
to the source, and explain that due to their spam I will not buy any
products from them. Real companies understand that annoying their
customers is not a good business strategy (it helps if you are
actually a current $$-spending customer and inform tham that you are
taking your business elsewhere). I've never gotten a second spam.....

Most non-scam spammers are less-than-savvy new Internet users who have
heard about the "great bucket o money" to be made on the Internet, and
have been duped by SPAMFORD and his ilk. I use the opportunity to
educate them.

A useful URL is the Internet Black List:

http://www-math.uni-paderborn.de/~Eaxel/BL/

------------------------------

From: mustang@acy.digex.net (Todd)
Subject: Re: Spam Analysis
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 15:39:47 GMT


On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:02:54 -0400, Bear wrote:

> Unfortuantely, 'professional' spammers eventually will figure out the
> filtering algorithms much like professional tax advisors have figured
> out what provokes an electronic IRS audit flag, or how shrewd job
> applicants have figured out what will get their resumes flagged by
> personnel departments which use electronic scanning.

You may be interested in the filter I've been working on.  Instead of
filtering based on undesirable key words, it filters based on
desirable key words.  For instance, anyone who sends me a message with
my first name "Todd", "mail-key", or "qwer" is automatically added to
my "accept list."  Once on the accept list all mail from them will not
be filtered.  It's been extremely effective over the last 2 weeks
since I started working on it.  There are still some bugs with my
implementation, but I think I can get around most of them.

If you're interested at all, there's a link to the procmail filter at:
http://g27.goes.com/zerospam

The neat thing about this reversed method of filtering is that it will
make it much harder for spammers to get into my mailbox.  Sure, a
spammer could read my Usenet posts and realize that all they have to
do is type "qwer" in a message to get through the filter.  Of course,
this is a lot harder to do than having a spam-bot harvest addresses
from newsgroups.

I am convinced that there is a technological solution to spam.  I'm
also convinced that a technological solution is the only one that will
be completely effective.  I think if people start thinking along the
lines of a "secure" mailbox system they might be on the right track.

I've been trying to envision how such a system would work.  If every
mailbox had a "welcome message" associated with it, the sender's
client could access it to see what "key" is required to send mail to
the mailbox.  The welcome message would have to be read by a person to
determine what the key is.  Now, when I receive the e-mail (assuming
the sender entered a key,) my e-mail client has a thumbs-up and a
thumbs-down button.  Thumbs-up, the sender is added to my "accept
list" and doesn't have to be concerned with entering keys.
Thumbs-down, the sender is added to my "deny list" and all future
e-mail from the sender is bounced.

One down-side to this is that you'd have to manually add any mailing
lists or auto-responders to your accept list.  For some people this
won't be a bother, for others it could be somewhat annoying.

I'd be interested in hearing any ideas on how such an implementation
could work.  I've already been flamed by plenty of CAUCE activists who
seemed irritated by the idea that a technological solution might be
more effective than a law.  So, please, no flames :)


Todd

Type "qwer" anywhere in your message if responding by e-mail.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:51:11 -0700
From: lars@anchor.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Re: Two ISDN Devices on One Line
Organization: RNS / Meret Communications


In article <telecom17.262.8@telecom-digest.org> is written:

> A quick ISDN question: I have ISDN to my house with RJ45 outlets in 4
> locations. ...  Can 2 NT-1's be connected to separate outlets? 

No. The intended wiring plan is to have the NT1 where the line enters
the premises, then have S/T-type devices attach behind that. The S/T
bus is designed for attachment of multiple devices.


Lars Poulsen			Internet E-mail: lars@OSICOM.COM
OSICOM Technologies        (Internet Business Unit, formerly RNS)
7402 Hollister Avenue 	        Telefax:      +1-805-968-8256
Santa Barbara, CA 93117	        Telephone:    +1-805-562-3158

------------------------------

From: Gordon Croft <gordon_croft@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Two ISDN Devices on One Line
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:53:31 -0700
Organization: BCTEL Advanced Communications
Reply-To: gordon_croft@bc.sympatico.ca


Sorry Steve, only one NT1 at the U interface (your RJ45 outlets) at
one time.  You can connect multi-devices at the S/T interface, but
that's not easy.


gordon_croft@bc.sympatico.ca
Gordon Croft
Surrey, British Columbia
Canada

------------------------------

From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Radio Vigilantes
Date: 30 Sep 1997 21:07:56 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Our Moderator noted in reply:

> Thank you, and I stand corrected. But as we have noted here in the
> past, accuracy of the details is not all that important <grin>
> ... anyway, it was that very popular song in the middle/late 1970's
> about the convoy of truckers running through the toll-plaza without
> stopping to pay the toll which caught the ear of so many people and
> made CB very popular."

Actually the CB boom started in 1974 -- a year or so before "Convoy"
came out -- apparently touched off by network TV news stories about
truckers using CB radios to trade "Smokey reports" so as to evade the
new 55 mph speed limit.

"C.W. McCall" was a character that first appeared in local commercials
for Old Home Bread in Omaha; the song was actually performed by Chip
Davis, later known for his Mannheim Steamroller group, though he
didn't disclose until 1983 that the two were connected.  (Details can
be found at American Gramaphone's Web site at http://www.amgram.com.)

------------------------------

From: Bill Newkirk <wenewkir@collins.rockwell.com>
Subject: Re: Radio Vigilantes
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 13:53:36 -0400
Organization: Rockwell Collins, Inc.
Reply-To: wenewkir@collins.rockwell.com


Tom Watson wrote:

>> once the general public found out about CB radio then shortly after
>> that (with Johnny Cash's song) it was ruined for everyone.    PAT]

> It wasn't Johnny Cash, it was "C.W. McCall".
> "The rubber duck".

AKA Mannheim Steamroller.

Bill Newkirk
Collins General Aviation Division Publications Department
Rockwell Collins, Inc., Melbourne Florida
wenewkir@collins.rockwell.com

------------------------------

From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stan Cline)
Subject: Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:43:17 GMT
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:52:41 -0400, The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
wrote:

> The state's area code problems appear to be far from over, as=20
> alarm companies warned yesterday that tens of thousands of their=20
> customers won't have working alarms if the initial phase-in=20
> period for the new area codes is not extended beyond Dec. 1.

<snip>

The same arguemnts came up in the Atlanta overlay/split argument,
largely because of the requirement for 10-digit dialing.  Alarm
companies complained that they would not have enough time to fix
everyone's alarm systems, for those that needed to be reprogrammed
(i.e., any in 770 that were dialing numbers within 770, and any in 404
that were dialing numbers within 404.)

What I find strange is: Why were the alarms originally programmed to
use 7-digit dialing, even though 10-digit dialing has been allowed
permissively from the start of the *404/770* split?  If the alarm
companies had thought ahead, they would have used 10-digit dialing in
the first place, and they would not have a problem now.

Or they could have switched to 800/888 or 950 numbers, which are not
affected by 7/10/11-digit dialing.  (Many large national alarm
companies with regional/national dispatch centers already use
800/888/950 numbers; it is the smaller companies that still use normal
local numbers and are unhappy.)

The Georgia PSC did give a special six(?)-month extension for numbers
used to reach alarm companies' central stations -- such numbers, and
ONLY such numbers, may STILL be dialed permissively as 7 digits even
after January 1 (the date at which 10-digit dialing becomes mandatory
in the area.)  That will give the alarm companies more time to fix
everyone's alarm systems -- not enough time, say the alarm companies.


Stanley Cline                         somewhere near Atlanta, GA, USA
roamer1(at)pobox.com               http://scline.home.mindspring.com/
spam not wanted here!    help outlaw spam - see http://www.cauce.org/

------------------------------

From: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:02:39 PDT
Organization: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center


In article <telecom17.261.2@telecom-digest.org>, Roger Fajman
<RAF@CU.NIH.GOV> wrote:

> That's a rather odd position for Bell Atlantic to take, since we've
> had 10 digit dialing for local calls for some time now in the
> Washington, DC area, which is Bell Atlantic territory.

Well, Bell Atlantic inherited that system when they acquired C&P
Telephone.  Changing it to whatever Bell Atlantic thinks is not
confusing would have been confusing =)


Bill

------------------------------

Subject: Kidnap Victim Phoned From Car Trunk
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:57:09 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Kidnap victim saved by the bell

GENEVA (Reuter) - Swiss police at the weekend foiled a hijacking
attempt after receiving a distress call -- from the trunk of a car.

Police in the capital Berne were able to act after a telephone tip-off
from the victim himself, a Serbian man who had been bundled into the
back of a car by his Macedonian kidnapper.

The 21-year-old Serb managed to call the police from inside the trunk
using his cellular telephone as his kidnapper drove away, police
officials said.

Shortly afterwards, he was rescued by a police patrol that chased the
car in the back streets of Berne. The victim knew his kidnapper and
was able to give the police the necessary information. The motive
behind the incident was not known.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:10:44 EDT
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)
Subject: Silly Me! I Lost the Number ...


I had the number to NAVOBS modem line in a 'clock program' script on
an old DOS 386 machine. It would call that number every day or so to
adjust the time on the computer. Somehow it got erased; the file it
was in got zapped.

Someone give it to me please. Also, what about Fort Collins' modem
number?


Thanks,

PAT

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    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Todd)
    Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem (Anthony Argyriou)
    Spammer Tollfree Number (Babu Mengelepouti)
    Re: Slammed - Fraud? (jseder@syntel.com)
    Re: Slammed - Fraud? (eddyj@agcs.com)
    TCX128 Help!!! (Derek Uttley)
    Re: Help With Line Noise Please (Jonathan I. Kamens)
    Re: Help With Line Noise Please (Brian Elfert)
    Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today (Leonid Broukhis)
    Newbridge 8230/31 Component Source (shickle@concentric.net)
    Wanted: Power Supply for Vodavi TelPlus 1648 (Gerry Wheeler)
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:20:38 -0400
From: Todd <mustang@acy.digex.net>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem


J.D. Baldwin wrote:

> In article <telecom17.263.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jim Youll
> <jim@newmediagroup.com> wrote:

> I hope you're right, but the early indications aren't good.  Barnes
> & Noble and amazon.com are "real" companies and engage in spamming.
> And over the weekend, I got spam from Bell South.  Grrrrrrrr.

FWIW, I e-mailed Amazon regarding spam and received this canned (no
pun intended) response:

Subject:       Amazon's spam policy?
   Date:        Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:14:11 -0700 (PDT)
   From:       info@amazon.com
     To:         Todd <mustang@acy.digex.net>

Dear Todd,

Thanks for writing to us at Amazon.com with your comments.

I want to assure you that Amazon.com does not spam.  Spamming is bad
for the Internet, and it's against our policy (and has been since our
inception).

We use email to communicate with our customers and subscribers about
their orders, new services, and other newsworthy information.  We have
never obtained email addresses from newsgroups or other sites: we
believe that's unethical.  We communicate only with Amazon.com
customers and Amazon.com visitors who have given us their email
addresses of their own accord.

In every email we send -- whether it's an Editors mailing to which
customers have subscribed or a news update -- we include an
unsubscribe option to allow customers to remove themselves from future
mailings.

We are very sorry if our recent announcement was in any way unwelcome
to you.  If you would prefer not to receive such announcements from
us, please send a blank email message to no-news@amazon.com.  We do
not want our customers to receive anything from us that is not
entirely satisfactory.

[ I don't know what the previous paragraph is about--that's why I
assume this is a "canned" response.  --Todd]

Again, please accept our apologies, and thank you for shopping at
Amazon.com.


Best regards,

Richard Berman
Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/
Earth's Biggest Bookstore
=========================
  >Subject: Amazon's spam policy?
  >To: info@amazon.com
  >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; U)
  >From: Todd <mustang@acy.digex.net>
  >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 16:32:19 -0400
  >
  >There's been a lot of discussion on  news.admin.net-abuse.email
  >regarding Amazon's spamming policy.  Some claim that Amazon used to
  >spam, some claim that you still do.  Please let me know your current
  >stance on unsolicited commercial e-mail.
  >
  >I've used Amazon several times and have been very happy with your
  >service.  I'd hate to have to find another online bookstore--one that
  >doesn't spam.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:25:57 -0700
From: Anthony Argyriou <anthony@alphageo.com>
Subject: Re: Spamford Leaving Won't Solve the Problem


Jeremy Radlow <radlow@acm.org> wrote:

> I really doubt that a typical user needs to send more than 1,000 mail
> messages per day, so restricting users to that level of traffic
> wouldn't get in the way of non-spammers, but would stop spammers
> before they could get started.  0.5% of 1,000 (and I bet the response
> rate isn't anywhere near that high) is pretty insignificant.

Most of us "typical" users won't need to send 1000 e-mails per day,
but what about mailing-list maintainers?  There may be other users who
have _legitimate_ need for mass e-mailing.

> This idea seemed impractical a year ago, because there was no lack of
> places for Joe Spammer to go if he got kicked off one ISP.  With ISP's
> consolidating, and spam factories being kicked off the net, asking
> ISP's to keep their users in check seems a lot more reasonable now.

Whatever happened to the idea of requiring a valid e-mail return
address?  If forging addresses and headers were made a _crime_ (a
subspecies of wire fraud), then even allowing spam factories to exist
would not be as bad as it is now, because people would be able to
complain to (and retaliate against) the spammer.

Also, whatever happened to using reverse DNS for screening?  I don't
remember any technical objections to the idea, only a complaint that a
very popular mailing-list refused to use it.  With the spam factories
temporarily out of business, ISPs should be able to enforce this on
all customers, so that when spammers return, they have to identify
themselves, even without criminal sanction.


Anthony Argyriou

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:07:31 -0400
From: Babu Mengelepouti <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>
Reply-To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
Organization: US Secret Service
Subject: Spammer Tollfree Number


I got the following spam today in my box:

Return-Path: <Ganda@crushnet.com>
Received: from vcn.bc.ca (root@opus.vcn.bc.ca [207.102.64.2])
    by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA27749
    for <prophet@arbornet.org>; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 05:14:26 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Ganda@crushnet.com    
Received: from mail.crushnet.com (mail.crushnet.com [151.196.87.10])
    by vcn.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12376
    for <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 04:47:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.crushnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id
PAA12751; 
    Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:27:32 -0400
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:27:32 -0400
Message-Id: <199709251927.PAA12751@mail.crushnet.com>
To: Mail.Delivery@crushnet.com
Subject: Test Players/Avid Golfers Wanted  (com/msg)
Reply-To: Jeffg@crushnet.com

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Spam deleted, just information on
how to contact the 'company'.     PAT]                          

For more information visit our web site at: http://www.smartsport.com
Or, call TOLL FREE  888-2GOLF-12 MON-FRI 10:00AM-5:30PM PACIFIC and ask
for information on our test play program or you may email me at
michele@smartsport.com. THANKS.

 ... more locations scheduled!  1-888-2GOLF 12

Don't forget to bookmark our web site!

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Maybe this should read, "don't forget
to pollute our phone lines and mailboxes the way we have done to
yours ..."     PAT]

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>
This offer brought to you by Electronic Direct Marketing, Inc.
Responsible targeted marketing is an extremely effective method
for marketing your products and services.  Call us for rates
on targeted marketing at 1-888-551-7600 or email us at
Ganda@greatoffer.com

If you wish to be removed from our email distribution lists, send
a removal request to remove@greatoffer.com

          ------------------------------------------

You'll note that it includes a toll free number to which everyone can
call to inquire about their spam services.  Maybe inquire several times,
to compare rates, or whatever.  Maybe just call to talk.

They never learn...

------------------------------

From: jseder@remove.this.syntel.com
Subject: Re: Slammed - Fraud?
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:37:19 -0700
Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com
Reply-To: jseder@remove.this.syntel.com


Complain to
	Informal Complaints and Public Inquiries Branch
	Enforcement Division, Common Carrier Bureau
	Federal Communications Commission  Mail Stop 1600A2
	Washington DC 205545

Send copies of the documents in the case with a brief statement of
facts.

Also, write to your local telco and tell them not to switch your long
distance carrier without written authorization.

It may just have been a goof, or it may be fraud - if it's the latter,
the FCC will see it in the large number of complaints (which is why it
is _important_ to write to the FCC), and they will act.

I got slammed and wrote the appropriate letters (and wasn't the only one
to do so).  The FCC imposed a $200,000 fine on the slammer, and my
state's PUC fined them another several hundred thousand dollars and
pulled the plug on them for 40 months!

------------------------------

From: eddyj@agcsarmy.com
Subject: Re: Slammed - Fraud?
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:39:26 -0700
Organization: Sherwood Forest. Delete 'army' to reply by email


Charles Beatty wrote:

> We were recently slammed. The story is a little more unusual and
> disturbing than simply being slammed though. Last month a service
> charge from Accutel of Boca Raton, FL showed up on our bill. I finally
> got through to a vice president at Accutel. She told me that they had
> purchased the cutomer base of a company called Christian Communications
> Group of Savannah, GA. The owner of Christian Communications is one
> Pastor Ralph Davis. He may also be doing business as Least Cost
> Routing.

> Now I don't believe for a second that Davis is a pastor, or that
> Christian Communicatons is anything but a scam. The disturbing part is
> that they have my wife's social security number. This is apparently
> sufficient to authorize a switch of LD carriers.

> Has anyone heard of Christian Communicatons? Least Cost Routing?
> "Pastor" Ralph Davis? Is there anything we can do to limit the
> distribution of my wife's SS# ? Do we have any kind of legal recourse?

> This is particularly upsetting since my wife's mother was just the
> victim of credit card fraud because someone got her SS#.

There's been a lot of heated discussion about SS# abuse in the
misc.legal ng recently (if you have access to it.). I don't know if
it's winding down or still going full steam, but you could post to the
group and see.


Bear 

------------------------------

From: Derek Uttley <duttley@spamnewbridge.com>
Subject: TCX128 Help!!!
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 10:45:58 -0400
Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation
Reply-To: duttley@spamnewbridge.com


My church installed a donated TCX128 telephone system by Tie
Communications when it was built about 4 years ago. It is working
fine.  However, programming manuals were not provided and I am having
difficulty locating one. I want to inhibit long distance access to
some of the extensions, which I am aware can be configured using the
dial pad of one of the phones. Without the manual ...?

If anyone can help I would appreciate it greatly.

Thanks in advance.


D.

------------------------------

From: jik@cam.ov.com (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: Help With Line Noise Please
Date: 02 Oct 1997 15:07:31 GMT
Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: jik@kamens.brookline.ma.us


My wife and I just bought a house, and in the process of undoing the
phone-wiring madness the previous tenants inflicted on it, I've
learned a few important tricks for reducing noise on phone lines (I've
tried to list them in order from most to least important, as I see
them):

* If you're using the standard flat "quad" cable, don't use both
wire pairs in the same cable when one of them is a modem line.

  In the days when phone lines were really used for voice, it didn't
matter much that there would be a little crosstalk between the two
pairs in the cable.  However, if you're using one of those pairs for a
modem, then you *will* get enough crosstalk from the modem tones on
the voice line to be annoying, and you *will* get enough crosstalk
from the voice calls on the modem line to interfere with good
performance.

  Either use separate quad cables for your voice and modem lines, or
use cable with some sort of crosstalk cancellation.  For example, you
can use Category-5 network cable for your phone lines with no trouble.
Since I'm planning on having our electrician pull network cables into
a number of the rooms in our house, I'm going to have him pull extra
cables into the rooms we want to have phones in and use those for our
phone circuits.

* Unwire *every unused wire in the house*.  After buying our house, we
discovered that there were six phone cables ascending from the basement
into various parts of the house, and the wires in those six cables were
all twisted together (i.e., all six green wires were twisted together,
all six red wires were twisted together, etc.).  Worse, some of the
jacks at the ends of those six wires had additional cables attached to
them with additional jacks at the ends of them.  It was a real mess.

  Any cable segment that is wired into your plant, even if it is
currently unused, can cause problems.  The more cable you have wired
in, the more chance there is that there will be a short or noisy cable
somewhere.  Furthermore, the more cable you have wired in, the more of
an "antenna effect" you're going to see -- your cables will act like an
antenna and pick up radio stations, random atmospheric radio noise, or
whatever.

  I unwired both ends of every single cable in the house, and then
wired only three jacks -- to with our voice line, and one directly up
to my office with our modem line.  The voice and modem lines do not
share the same cable anywhere.

* If the phone cables in your house are old, test them for noise and/or
just replace them.  Old cable wears down for various reasons (e.g., the
sheathing gets worn and the wires end up closer together or even
intermittently shorted) and acquires more noise as it gets older, and
besides, old phone cable is often crap.  Buy some high-quality quad
phone cable and replace the old cable with it; if you do it carefully
(e.g., don't make any sharp bends in the cable, don't pierce the cable
with staples when fastening it down), you will almost certainly reduce
noise.

* Check all your connections.  Make sure that the connections are solid
at the junction box and at other locations where wires are twisted
together.  It wouldn't hurt to undo connections that have been around
for a long time, clean off rust and other accumulated coatings, and
redo the connections.  Also, make sure that there are no exposed
connections -- if you've got wires twisted together anywhere, put wire
nuts on them.

  Of course, it goes without saying that you should minimize the number
of connections that are necessary.

* Make sure your phone cables aren't running parallel to power cables. 
If they are, you probably want to relay them with a different path or
replaced them with cable with noise cancellation (e.g., Category-5
cable).

------------------------------

From: belfert@citilink.com (Brian Elfert)
Subject: Re: Help With Line Noise Please
Date: 02 Oct 97 17:06:11 GMT


Tony Ward <tonyeo@black-hole.com> writes:

> I currently have two phone lines, one for voice and one for my modem.
> My question is this: I have line noise on both lines (local radio
> station).  I have installed a noise supressor on both lines (close to
> modem and phone).  I currently have a 28,8 modem (connect at 26,4 or
> 24) and was wondering wether the supressor inhibits modem connection
> speed (actually I can not connect without the supressor being there).
> Is there anything else I can realistically do to stop the interference
> and is it worth my while getting a k56flex modem?  Would it be better
> to put a line supressor where my telco box comes into the house (if so
> how?).

Are you using a line noise suppressor or a RF suppressor?  I think
they make RF suppressors that should work better for your case.

Isn't the phone company required to help in cases like this?

Exactly how close are you to the radio transmitter?  I am within 1/3
mile of a tower with no phone problems.


Brian

------------------------------

From: leob@best.com (Leonid A. Broukhis)
Subject: Re: Suspense: Sorry, Wrong Number - Yesterday and Today
Date: 02 Oct 1997 15:07:16 -0700


Dave Stern <dstern@garage.lucent.com> writes:

> According to the internet movie database (http://us.imdb.com) there
> was a tv movie in 1989 that is described as a remake of the 1948
> movie. There was also a hit for a 1977 French movie (Prostite, ne tot
> nomer...!) aka SWN.

The phrase "Prostite, ne tot nomer" is in Russian, not French.  The
movie, judging by the director filmography, is most likely
Czechoslovakian-Soviet coproduction.


Leo

------------------------------

From: shickle@concentric.net
Subject: Newbridge 8230/31 Component Source
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:31:17 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services


Can someone point me to a source for used Newbridge equipment?  I'm
looking for components for the 8230 and 8231.


Thanks,

Steve Hickle

------------------------------

From: gwheelerX@gate.net (Gerry Wheeler)
Subject: Wanted: Power Supply For Vodavi TelPlus 1648
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:45:40 GMT
Organization: SpectraFAX Corp.
Reply-To: gwheelerX@gate.net


Our key phone system (Vodavi TelPlus 1648) has bitten the dust. There
is an external power supply that produces 24VDC, and a supply inside
the cabinet that uses this to produce +/- 5VDC. The internal supply
has quit. I got an estimate of $850 (!) for a used one, because
they're so hard to find.

Any ideas on how I can get this beast running again?


Gerry Wheeler            gwheelerX@gate.net  (remove the X)
SpectraFAX Corp.         Phone: 941-643-8739
Naples, FL                 Fax: 941-643-5070

------------------------------

From: W. Hughes <whughes@env-dept.devon-cc.gov.uk>
Subject: Voicemail to E-Mail
Date: 29 Sep 1997 07:59:50 GMT
Organization: Devon County Council


I run voicemail on my PC at home, and I would like it to attach any
messages that come in through the day to an E-Mail and have it sent to
my PC in the office automatically.  Does anyone know of any software
that can do this for me? I am currently running Cheyenne Bitware to
manage my voicemail, I have a 33.6 modem and run on Windows95.


BiLLY  

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:10:55 EDT
From: David Leibold <aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Major Phone Cut in Mississauga, Ontario


A new report appeared a few days ago (30 September) in the {Toronto
Star}, after I posted the original Digest blurb about the Streetsville
phone interruption.

In that report, a contractor's association insists that the company
doing the Mississauga digging called Bell regarding cable locations
before making the dig. There will now be words between contractors and
Bell.

Meanwhile, I retract any suggestion in my post that the contractor did
not call Bell. It's just that calling before digging is a wise thing
to do in general.

Meanwhile, a Toronto radio report today indicated about half of the
affected phone customers should have their service restored by
now. The repairs continue ...

Ref: www.thestar.ca website, back issues to 30 Sept 97, article entitled:
"Contractors blame Bell for Streetsville phone woes -- But telephone company 
insists it acted properly"


David Leibold     aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca

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    Bell Atlantic Digital Bill - Many Errors (Douglas Reuben)
    Cell One / Albany Charging For Incomplete Calls (Douglas Reuben)
    Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Book Review: "NetResearch: Finding Information Online" (Rob Slade)
    Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts (Greg Monti)
    Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice (Linc Madison)
    Spamford v. Agis (Bill Levant)
    The Even Hand of the Law (oldbear@arctos.com)
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From: Douglas Reuben <dreuben@tiac.net>
Subject: Bell Atlantic Digital Bill - Many Errors
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 04:49:12 EDT


Well, after weeks of waiting to see if Bell Atlantic's Digital service
rates for the New England region are really what they promised, I
received my first bill for our new digital account today.

I must admit I was expecting a disaster -- high priced roaming charges
for markets which they promised would be free (for off peak, as on my
account I asked for the free off peak option), local call charges,
roaming daily charges, etc.

After reviewing the bill, I must same I am pleased that it is not as
bad as I had thought, and they got it substantially correct.

Bell Atlantic/CT (00119) has offered a weekend off peak plan for over
a year now (as do most BAMS properties), as well as the first incoming
minute free on certain plans (a very nice feature -- I give out my
cell numbers much more liberally now), and more recently, off-peak
airtime for free (between 8PM and 7AM, and all day on weekends and
select holidays).  Although initially they had billing problems with
some of these, current bills are flawlessly correct when it comes to
the above categories of calls for their analog service, and the
digital is no different. All my calls with the digital phone were
billed correctly in the CT market.

(Note that by "digital" I mean calls placed with my digital account;
it makes no difference if you are in digital or analog mode. 
Additionally, the digital account includes all of Connecticut,
even Litchfield, which is serviced by AT&T Wireless. Bell Atlantic has
had a series of plans which rated Litchfield/AT&T calls at the same
"home" rate as the rest of CT, so the fact that they got this correct
on their digital plan bills doesn't suprise me either.)

The New England Digital plan also allows for "home airtime" rates over
a large section on BAMS's "B" side systems, from Boston/NH/RI (00028),
Eastern NH (00428), Vermont (00300), Albany (00078), Valley
Cellular/Columbia County/Catskills,NY (01516 - except you can't place
or receive calls there, how nice :( ), Poughkeepsie (00486) and Orange
County NY (00404).

For calls placed in the 00028 system, everything was billed perfectly!
All calls appeared as "home" calls, ie, no special roaming charges,
peak rates were billed as your peak home airtime rate (40
cents/minute, in my case), off peak was free, local calls were free,
and in general, I was billed as if it were one, large seamless
system. (Note toll charges ARE incurred if you place or receive calls
to/from OUTSIDE of the market you are in, generally, but this is
clearly stated in the policy sheet, and is more or less the norm in
the industry.)

For the Albany 00078, Poughkeepsie 00486 and Orange County NY 00404,
this is not the case, and calls were billed at either $.99 per minute
(standard roaming, even though there are BAMS properties!), $.59 per
minute, or $.49 per minute (discounted "B" roaming on BAMS properties
for other BAMS customers.) Local call charges were also incurred, and
the free off peak airtime and free incoming minutes were not accounted
for.

I have yet to receive a bill for the other areas which are included in
the Northeast plan. 

Additionally, the monthly charges are listed in such a Byzantine
fashion that it is incomprehensible. There are 2 charges for monthly
no answer transfer service, and then 3 credits for it (it is supposed
to be free), one charge for voicemail and then a credit and then a
prorated charge, credits for service, then charges for compensate for
these credits, then more credits.  I gave up; I figure this is due to
my initiating service in mid-cycle (I have it billed to one of our
other accounts which has been in service with them since 1987 when
they were Metro Mobile). Hopefully, subsequent itemizations for
recurring service will be less confusing!

After reviewing the bill, I called BAMS to get the NY system(s) calls
credited. I expected the worst -- in the the past when I have called
BAMS for credits, I usually received a condescending "We'll give you
credits this time just to be nice, but if you do it again, you will
have to pay" or "Your home airtime rate doesn't apply outside your
home state even though the brochures say 'home airtime rates apply' in
Boston, Albany, etc."

To my suprise, the rep. at BAMS looked over the bill (which was over
$500 due to all the roam calls which were incorrectly billed), and
after 30 seconds, said "Oh, I'm terribly sorry, it is obvious that
there is some mistake in the billing. I will get a full printout in
the morning, get the correct amount fo credits, and also make sure
that our billing department corrects this so that you and other
digital customers don't have this happen again."

I was shocked -- it's rare to hear a cust. service rep. at a cell
company not only agree with you, but indicate that something will be
immediately done to resolve the problem in my (and their other
customers') favor. Most impressive ...

I figure either (a) a lot of people called about this already, (b)
there are extensive notes on our account with them saying "just do
what the customer says or he won't give up" :), or (c) they genuinely
want to keep customers of their digital service and prevent churn (I
would have cancelled in two seconds had she said "Well, the brochures
are wrong, and you have to pay roaming charges et. al. when outside
your home state.")

As to a separate matter, I posted a few weeks ago regarding voicemail
notification (on the phone's display, not the tones you hear when you
place a call) not working outside of Connecticut.

Well, someone must have done something, because all of a sudden, it is
working everywhere! As a matter of fact, it is too much -- if I have a
voicemail present, it beeps me whenever I enter into a new system, and
perhaps each time I travel to an area covered by a different
switch. It can be slightly annoying to receive all those beeps for
just one voicemail (ie, if you don't check it, it just keeps beeping
and beeping every so often as you hit different switches/systems), but
at least it WORKS now, so it is certainly an improvement.

No improvement yet with my e-mail paging in most on NYC, RI, and the
other markets where it doesn't work, or with the silly 55 character
alpha limitation. I guess I'll just have to wait for those ...:)

Also, for the careful readers of my posts :), the 01516 system STILL
does not allow outgoing calls (for some BAMS customers, mainly those
from CT with 860 numbers), and doesn't have ANY incoming calls at all
for BAMS customers. This is *supposedly* a BAMS property, yet BAMS
customers can't really use it (it is jointly owned by BAMS and some
hicks living up in the hills there who don't know how to run a system,
and NO, people living in Columbia county aren't hicks, just the people
who administer (ha! what a misnomer ...) the 01516 system are). BTW, my
GTE Mobilnet/CA phone works fine there, both in terms of placing AND
receiving calls. So BAMS has really dropped the ball there, and needs
to do something to integrate that system with the rest of its
properties.

BTW, although I don't encourage it since I think it is a good deal
overall, if you want to get out of your BAMS digital [or any]
contract, you can tell them "Geez, well, if I can't get calls in the
01516 market, then the phone really isn't that useful to me -- I
mainly bought it just to use in my home market any my country home in
Columbia County, NY".

They may tell you that you can switch to the "A" side to place calls,
but this is only true for some BAMS customers, and you can not receive
calls on the "A" side (01515) unless you are a CT/00119 "A"
customer. Hopefully, they will fix service there so people don't have
to get out of contracts and switch carriers just to be able to get
calls there. If I can get calls in the 01516 system on my GTE CA 00040
account from 3000 miles away (which utilizes the same switch, the
Autoplex, which BAMS does), then I *should* be able to receive and
place calls in that market with my BAMS account as well. (BTW, the
01516 is not an Autoplex switch, or at least it has different
confirmation tones than do other Autoplex switches. But if GTE can
deliver calls to it, I think BAMS should be able to as well.)

Overall, though, I am becoming increasingly impressed with the
totality of th BAMS digital service in the Northeast. From the
coverage areas and "extended" home airtime areas, to the free
features, voicemail notification now working in most places,
increasing alpha messaging territory, and (hopefully improving)
billing, the service is well worth the money. I still think the sound
quality of digital and audio delay is nothing to write home about, but
overall, it is an attractive service, which will grow increasingly so
as they increase the alpha messaging footprint and fix up systems like
the 01516 which despite it being a semi-BAMS property does not really
support any BAMS customers.

Finally, I am planning on setting up a WWW site (www.wirelessnotes.org) 
on Interpage's server to host (modestly :) ) my posts, but more
importantly, I'd like to have a regularly updated, system by system
list of known problems, issues, interesting facts, billing and roaming
billing practices, etc. It will be free, of course, and serve a
repository for any problems in a given market which will be updated as
they are corrected, etc. I invite anyone with any such information or
problems of a systemic nature in a given cellular, PCS, etc. system to
submit messages to wirlessnotes@interpage.net (I didn't set up the
 .org mailing addresses yet) for inclusion, now or at any time in the 
future.

In a submission, please have the Cellular Operator's name (ie, Cell
One/Boston), the SID number if available (00007 for Boston, or if you
don't have the SID then indicate if it is A or B, PCS, etc.), the nature
of the problem or issue, how long it has been going on, and other
information along those lines. Paging notes and observations dealing with
paging systems are also gladly welcomed.

I'd like to stay away from individual issues such as "I asked for
credits on my bills and they never gave it to me" or "My phone broke
and now there is no backlighting and XYZ Cell co. doesn't want to pay
for a new one", etc., and instead have a system by system listing of
general problems, issues, or interesting facts which would be of
benefit to the entire wireless community.

Thanks in advance for any submissions!


Regards,

Doug
dreuben@interpage.net / +1 (510) 254-0133 / www.interpage.net
Interpage Network Services Inc.

------------------------------

From: Douglas Reuben <dreuben@tiac.net>
Subject: Cell One / Albany Charging For Incomplete Calls
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 03:32:55 EDT


I recently reviewed a series of bills for our company detailing
roaming charges in the Cellular One/Albany, NY (00063) system.

It seems that for ALL of our accounts, EVERY call, even unanswered
calls of a few seconds, are being billed!

We have accounts with a number of "A" carriers from Boston, NYC,
Connecticut, Vermont, California, New Orleans, and New Jersey. All of
them reflected both incoming and outgoing calls which no one answered
and were significantly less than 45 seconds.

Additionally, I was billed a $3 (daily charge) and $.99 on our Boston
(CO/Boston, 00007 account, not to mention their "Pizza Fund" rip-off
$4 "roamer administration charge" -- I've already cancelled two
accounts with them as a result of this outrageous charge and moved
them over to Bell Atlantic and AT&T), and $.99 on our Bell Atlantic/CT
00119 bill, for the privilege of entering "*350" to turn on call
delivery!

(I had called Cell One/Albany about two years ago to ask them if they
billed for incompletes, both incoming and outgoing (incoming
incompletes are sometimes refered to as "ringtime"). There were
similar problems back then, and after a series of calls, CO/Albany
took care of it. They also told me that they do not bill for
incoming/outgoing calls which are not answered as long as they are
shorter than 45 seconds.)

After a few months of just figuring that these bills were correct, I
decided to do some tests, since it recently seems to have happened
over and over.

I called non-working numbers from a variety of our accounts while
roaming in the Albany 00063 system. I also placed calls from the "B"
side (Bell Atlantic/Albany, 00078, which, like most responsible "B"
carriers, does not charge for incomplete calls) to the various "A"
side carriers I utilized while roaming on the 00063 system.

EVERY call to a non-working number, even ones where I hung up right
after I pressed SEND, was billed airtime, taxes etc. It was not,
however, billed a toll charge, since the dialed number was not in
service, and thus not a billable call (Wow, they managed to get that
part right ... miraculous! ;) )

EVERY incoming call, even if I let it ring just once, was billed, but
again, there was no toll-delivery charge. Thus, by way of example, if
I were using our Cell One/VT 00313 account, which was set to roam on
the Albany/A 00063 system, when a call was placed to the Cell One/VT
number, and the phone rang in Albany, the call was billed airtime by
Cell One/Albany, but CO/VT did NOT bill me the toll charge to
"deliver" the call from the 802 number which was dialed to my (temporary,
automatically assigned, "TDN" number) phone in the Albany system. This
is a clear indication that the Albany system is charging airtime for
"ringtime", in violation of their own stated policy.

I am in the process of addressing this issue with our carriers who
charged us (or passed along the charges) for roaming in the Albany
system. I am insisting on complete credits, and an investigation as to
why we were charged when we were told a number fo times by Albany that
we would not be charged for incompletes, especially after bringing
this problem a few years ago.

When I told ATT/NY (00025) about it, the first rep I spoke with gave
me a rather hard time (ie, "Oh, they are allowed to do that, there is
nothing we can do"; wrong, the NY system is billing us for the calls,
they are Albany's agent in effect, if Albany promised us not to bill
for calls less than 45 seconds and they did then the NY system should
either take it up with Albany or credit the calls and have Albany try
to collect from us directly. Then I got the usual "Why did you call
numbers which you knew were not working?" (because neither you nor
Albany bother to check these things yourself and someone else,
unfortunately, needs to test these things), "Why did you place so many
incoming calls, that seems odd?"  (Because I didn't want to give you
misinformation and needed to be sure by performing a grand total of 6
calls), etc.)

Eventually, after pointing out the fact that I was billed airtime
charges but not toll charges, I convinced him, and he issued a
credit. More importantly, AT&T/NY later said that (at least as far as
AT&T/NY goes), the problem was fixed, and incomplete incoming/outgoing
calls while in the Albany/00063 system will not appear on subsequent
bills.  I hope so, AT&T is usually very quick to fix these things,
even if their front-end help can use some better training. (I dunno,
something about being drilled about my calling patterns just to show
them that they may have a problem is a bit disconcerting :( ).

I am still pursuing the matter with the other carriers, and will
insist that Cell One/Albany either correct the billing, or give
roamers correct information if they do indeed bill for incomplete
calls of less than 45 seconds.

Cell One/Boston should be fun -- they fight tooth and nail just to
keep the $4 roamer fee, $3 daily charge, and $.99 per minute roam
rate.  Unbelieveable -- $7.99 just to press *350! That's why I am
slowly dumping them as our accounts pass the contract period in favor
of Bell Atlantic (Nynex) -- the offer a wider coverage area from Rhode
Island to New Hampshire, no local call charge on most plans, unlimited
off-peak, no airtime charge for voicemail deposition, and no petty,
cheap "roamer admin" charges for giving you the "privilege" of
roaming.

Additionally, I believe that the Cellular One organization does not
allow carriers to charge for feature activations, such as enabling
call delivery via *350. (I may be wrong, but I will check with them.)
If I find out this is correct, and CO/Albany insists that it may
charge for hitting *350 and other features, I will bring this to the
attention of the Cellular One organization for them to deal with.

If you roam in the Albany A system, or have in the past few months,
you may want to check your bill(s) for incomplete/unanswered calls and
contact your local carrier if you feel you were incorrectly charged.


Regards,

Doug
dreuben@interpage.net / +1 (510) 254-0133 / www.interpage.net
Interpage Network Services Inc.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:35:12 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service


This came to me from Robert Vroman <rvroman@SHELBY.NET> who 
particiaptes in an Emergency Services Discussion List.  He says  
original source was the {New York Times} web site on 10/2/97.

I personally find this a worrysome idea.  It would seem that the 911
staff should be able to better triage incoming calls.  I wonder what
will happens when someone calls 3-1-1 because they only have a "small
fire" or didn't want to call the regular 9-1-1 number because they
were not absolutely sure they were having a heart attack.  The fact
that Baltimore was dispatching emergency personnel to non-emergency
situations sounds more like a staff training problem in their dispatch
center than any kind of technological issue.


311 Takes Pressure Off Overburdened
Emergency Phone System

By 
Michael Janofsky

BALTIMORE -- Until a year ago, the owner of a cat stuck in a tree and
the spouse of a shooting victim would likely call the same number for
help: 911.

But under a pilot federal program that is likely to expand quickly
around the country and beyond, Baltimore is using a different
telephone number for non-emergencies, 311, a change that has reduced
the number of 911 calls to local police by nearly 25 percent, enabling
operators to handle life-threatening situations more efficiently and
giving officers more time to patrol the streets.

In announcing the results of the program on its first anniversary,
local, state and federal officials said the 311 experiment has been so
successful that more than 100 other jurisdictions, including bigger
cities like Chicago and Philadelphia, are eager to try it.

"The results here have exceeded my expectations," said Joseph E.
Brann, the director of the Office of Community Oriented Policing in
the Justice Department.  "The importance to the rest of the country is
that this was a community willing to use a new strategy to solve an
old problem."

Most regions have used 911 as an emergency alternative to a
seven-digit number for the local police station since the early 1970s.
But here in Baltimore, Thomas C. Frazier, the police commissioner,
said the steady increase of calls to 911, an average of 5 percent a
year in recent years, was forcing many officers to spend their entire
eight-hour shifts responding to calls -- many of which were not true
emergencies -- at the expense of department efforts to increase the
time officers patrol neighborhoods by car and foot.

"We are trying to create more discretionary time for officers."
Frazier said at a news conference, "and this enhances our ability.  It
has freed up an amount of time for them to be proactive, rather than
reactive."

As part of the Clinton administraton's comprehensive 1994 crime act,
the Justice Department last year had a small grant -- $349,787 --
available to test a program that would combine new technology and a
city's willingness to wean residents from 911 for non-emergency needs.
Baltimore jumped at the chance.

After a year, Frazier pronounced the program "a huge success," with
24.8 percent fewer calls to 911 and better service for those who still
needed it.  A department analysis of calls made after 311 was
implemented showed that 911 operators now answer within an average of
two seconds, rather than six seconds; that 78.5 percent fewer callers
get a busy signal, and that 82.2 percent fewer get a recorded message
asking them to not to hang up.

In addition, a police survey of people who called 311 found that 98.2
percent of them were satisfied with the response even after learning
that an officer would not be immediately dispatched.  For example,
someone returning from vacation to discover a burglary had taken place
would probably be told by a 311 operator that police would respond,
but not necessarily right away.

More significant, Frazier said, the availability of 311 to solve
non-emergency problems led to an immediate decrease in the frequency
with which the police were dispatched.  After 311 was introduced,
Frazier said, the number of times police were dispatched fell enough
to give an officer an additional hour a day for community policing.
Frazier added that the overall crime rate in Baltimore has fallen 15
percent in 1997, compared with an 11 percent drop in 1996.

The success of the 311 option here probably will lead to its
implementation in other cities. Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend,
who helped lobby for the federal grant, said Maryland's other populous
regions, including Montgomery County and Prince George's County, which
surround Washington, would soon get 311 systems.  And John
F. Reintzell, a spokesman for the Baltimore police department, said
that the department has received inquiries from 150 police departments
in the United States, Great Britain, Canada and South Korea.

Brann of the Justice Department said that the federal government did
not intend to offer further financial support for 311 but that several
current studies the government was monitoring could help localities
decide how they might amend the way they handle emergency calls.
Dallas is offering a 311 line for access to all city agencies, and
Buffalo, N.Y., is beginning a public awareness campaign to familiarize
residents with seven-digit police station numbers.

"Agencies all over the country are interested," Brann said.  "But
we're not trying to shove anything down anyone's throat.  It should be
a local agency determination."

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 10:40:53 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "NetResearch: Finding Information Online"


BKNTRSCH.RVW   970327
 
"NetResearch: Finding Information Online", Daniel J. Barrett, 1997,
1-56592-245-X, U$24.95/C$35.95
%A   Daniel J. Barrett
%C   103 Morris Street, Suite A, Sebastopol, CA   95472
%D   1997
%G   1-56592-245-X
%I   O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
%O   U$24.95/C$35.95 800-998-9938 707-829-0515 fax: 707-829-0104 nuts@ora.com
%P   240
%T   "NetResearch: Finding Information Online"
 
In a way, all use of the Internet involves a search for information.
The search may be informal, or even completely serendipitous, but it
exists, nonetheless.  In that regard, the title of this book is
appropriate.  What is provided here is a fairly generic, brief
Internet guide.  There is an emphasis on search tools related to
various net applications.
 
An emphasis, but not terribly detailed or specific.  Tools are listed,
and sometimes explanations of use or even tips are included.  The
finer points of searching, though, are hardly ever touched on.  Nor
are there particulars of the advantages of one system over another.
Barrett starts out by saying that the book will concentrate on
graphical client software, but, in fact, almost no details of any
interface are given.  The content leans very heavily on the use of Web
search engines, and relies on Web interfaces even where telnet or
email options exist.
 
For the rank novice, only just starting to explore the net, this does
provide an accessible source of search tools, as well as explanations
of the construction of domain names and URLs (Uniform Resource
Locators).  In addition, Barrett, while emphasizing Web tools, does
provide some information on Usenet, mailing lists, and email
addresses.  (Veronica only gets a mention, and WAIS doesn't even get
that.)  In comparison to Gilster's "Finding it on the Internet"
(cf. BKFNDINT.RVW), "NetResearch" is more up to date, but only a
beginner's primer.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKNTRSCH.RVW   970327


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
              Ceterum censeo CNA Financial Services delendam esse
  Please note the Peterson story - http://www.netmind.com/~padgett/trial.htm

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 00:12:45 -0400
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com>
Subject: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts


On 30 Sep 97, fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) wrote:

> In article <telecom17.261.2@telecom-digest.org>, Roger Fajman
> <RAF@CU.NIH.GOV> wrote:

>> That's a rather odd position for Bell Atlantic to take, since we've
>> had 10 digit dialing for local calls for some time now in the
>> Washington, DC area, which is Bell Atlantic territory.

I think this topic is missing a key item buried in a Bell Atlantic
press release.

Background: Massachusetts was recently (and may still be) a "partial
toll alerting" state.  Calls within the same area code are alerted as
to whether they are toll by a 7-digit vs. 11-digit dialing plan.
Calls which cross area code boundaries, even if they are local, are
all dialed with 11 digits.  I assume there is some historical or
technical reason for this.  Perhaps some switching equipment could not
comprehend a 10 digit string that was not prepended with a "1".

The story now: I think that the technical reason no longer exists, so
the Mass. DPU is intending to force Bell Atlantic to go back to "full
toll alerting" in which cross area code local calls may be dialed with
10 digits, while cross area code toll calls must be dialed with 11
digits.

The trouble is, they want BA to implement this in a "general way" so
the people who have the most common type of unlimited local service
get the toll alerting correctly.  People who buy the "extended area"
local calling service (which increases the number of prefixes in your
local calling area for an additional monthly fee) would still be
required to dial 11 digits to reach those additional prefixes, even of
the call is local and free, and even if it is in the same area code as
the caller.

*This* is what Bell Atlantic is saying is confusing.  That toll
alerting is correct for some people, but not for others.  They're
going through all this trouble to re-implement full toll alerting, but
it won't be correct for everybody.  BA's position is "why have toll
alerting at all?"  They want Massachusets to go to 7 digits for within
area code, 11 digits for outside, both regardless of toll.

Just another reason why toll alerting through dialing plans is a bad
idea.  Why not have the recorded sound of a cash register play just
after the last digit is dialed to indicate toll?

> Well, Bell Atlantic inherited that system when they acquired C&P
> Telephone.  Changing it to whatever Bell Atlantic thinks is not
> confusing would have been confusing =)

Not true.  Bell Atlantic already owned C&P Telephone from Bell
Atlantic's moment of birth on January 1, 1984.  The 10-digit dialing
plan (for cross area code local calls) in the Washington Metropolitan
area was not implemented until October 1, 1990.  When I moved into the
Washington Metro area in late 1979, 10-digit dialing on local calls
was specifically disallowed.  From 301, you'd get a fast busy
immediately after dialing "202".  Obviously, that restriction was
lifted sometime between 1979 and 1990.


Greg Monti  Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
gmonti@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~gmonti

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 03:42:27 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


I was having a discussion with a neighbor whose business has an 800
number that is getting a large number of wrong-number calls for the
company that now has the same number in 888.

It occurs to me (with 20/20 hindsight) that 888 was a poor choice for
the second toll-free SAC.  It just doesn't jolt the average Joe enough
as being distinct from 800.  A different choice -- maybe 822 -- would
have been more distinctive, and might have resulted in fewer problems.
There could've been ads with the jingle "8-2-2 is toll-free, too!"

Of course, I think that the root of the problem is that there seems to
have been no coherent attempt at a public education campaign for 888.
Too many phone books still refer to 800 without mentioning 888.


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com
  >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<

------------------------------

From: Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 22:17:25 EDT
Subject: Spamford v. Agis


           According to this morning's __Philadelphia Inquirer__,
(10/1/97), U.S. District Court Judge Anita Brody granted Spammy a
temporary injunction against AGIS, which forces AGIS to reconnect
Cyberpromo for the next fifteen days.

           Evidently, Spammy's contract with AGIS required thirty
days' notice before cancellation; since AGIS didn't give thirty days'
notice, they have to reconnect him (why only 15 days wasn't made clear
in the article, but the judge probably counted the initial disconnect
as "notice", and that was about 15 blissfully-spam-free days ago; 15 +
15 is, of course, 30).

            Spamford is reportedly looking to purchase a backbone
provider, so as not to be at the mercy of an upstream provider ever
again (assuming any would still host him); AGIS is considering an
appeal to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.


  Bill

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 17:45:58 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: The Even Hand of the Law


Pat:

 From what I can tell from this wire-service story, it looks like 
the court made the correct legal decision -- my personal feelings 
notwithstanding.

I place more blame on AGIS and its counsel for not having prepared and
negotiated a document with better protection of AGIS under these
circumstances.

Now, if the denial-of-service attacks (and/or UDP) on AGIS resume,
AGIS could find itself in a position where it would be unable to
deliver services to any of its customers -- placing it in default of
its obligations under its other contracts.

While there is an important lesson here concerning the need for some
legislative action on spam, the bigger lesson of this particular
skirmish may be the poorly drafted and administered contractual used
by virtually all internet providers -- and the superficial level of
understanding of the internet by the lawyers who are providing legal
advice to internet providers.

If one plans to contract with the Devil, one should first be sure one
has a damn good lawyer to review the documents.

Cheers,
The Old Bear

                     -------------

Junk E-mail Company to get Internet Access Services Restored

{Associated Press} 

PHILADELPHIA (AP) 01-OCT-97 - Cyberspace's leading junk e-mailer must
have its Internet access restored, at least temporarily, a federal
judge ruled Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge Anita Brody ordered Apex Global Internet Services
Inc., also known as AGIS, to reconnect service for Cyber Promotions
Inc. through Oct. 16 or until the company secures comparable Internet
service.

Cyber Promotions, of Philadelphia, sued the Dearborn, Mich.-based
Internet provider for terminating its Internet account Sept. 16.
Cyber Promotions was dropped by its secondary provider, WorldCom Inc.,
in June.

Brody, while noting her `"strong personal distaste for Cyber's
business," prevented the termination of its service without 30 days
notice, as stipulated by contract.

Cyber Promotions has been targeted by Internet users for sending an
estimated 80 percent of all unsolicited bulk e-mail, also known as
spam.  About 10,000 customers pay Cyber Promotions to send 18 million
to 20 million junk e-mail messages each day.

AGIS terminated Cyber Promotions followed a massive "ping attack" on
AGIS's network, which disables computers attached to the Internet by
flooding them with repeated information requests, the judge said in
her memorandum.  AGIS maintains the attack was directed at Cyber
Promotions.

"Many computer users find the receipt of bulk e-mail annoying and
intrusive," Brody wrote.  "However, the fact that Cyber is an
unpopular citizen of the Internet does not mean that Cyber is not
entitled to have its contracts enforced in a court of law or that
Cyber is not entitled to such injunction relief as any similarly
situated business."

------------------------------

From: Chris Moffett <Moffett.Chris@MFSDatanet.COM>
Subject: WorldCom - MCI Merger?
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:38:00 -0400


NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Wall Street stocks moved
                  higher at the opening bell Wednesday as traders
                  focused on telecommunications issues in light of a
                  surprise suitor for MCI Communications.
[snip]

                     The biggest news on Wall Street Wednesday was
                  long-distance provider WorldCom's surprise offer to
                  buy MCI Communications for $30 billion, or
                  $41.50 a share. The bid jumps right in the middle of
                  British Telecommunications' planned $18 billion
                  acquisition of MCI.

                     Shares of MCI (MCIC) jumped 5-7/8 to 35-1/4,
                  while BT (BTY) rose 5-1/2 to 72-1/8. WorldCom
                  (WCOM) was off 7/8 to 34-1/2. Merrill Lynch
                  stirred the punch bowl a bit more when it raised its
                  rating on WorldCom to "accumulate" from "neutral."

                     WorldCom, which has been on a takeover frenzy
                  that includes purchases of MFS Communications and
                  CompuServe, also said it will spend $2.4 billion to
                  acquire Brooks Fiber Properties. Brooks' (BFPT)
                  stock soared 8-5/16 to 55.
[snip]

	          Full story at www.cnnfn.com

This is a clip from the CNNfn web page and I was looking for comments
on this offer from other readers. Do you think this will be allowed
(FCC or Justice Dept.)?  Will this make WorldCom an unbeatable force
in the telecom world?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Chris

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 21:08:14 EDT
From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: NYS PSC Recommends "Overlay" For New NYC Area Code


As an FYI, I testified at one of the public hearings, in favor of an
overlay (as opposed to to a geographic split).

I added two suggestions to the overlay concept:

	a) I suggested that given some recent Federal court decisions,
the FCC may have acted ultra-vires in their refusal to allow anyone
new area codes which were exclusive to wireless, and I therefore
recommended that another one be set aside in the NYC area for
specifically thet group.  (Currently the "917" code is the only one in
the nation which is exclusive to pagers/cellulars [1]

	b) I also requested that instead of using the plebian area
code of "6-4-6" which is kind of a throw-away, that they adopt the
"6-9-2" one and overlay it citywide. I felt this would be particularly
fitting for NYC and might even generate its own demand...

[1] 917 is also used by some voicemail groups and some specilized other
purposes.

		*************

STATE OF NEW YORK
Public Service Commission
                                John F. OMara, Chairman

Three Empire State Plaza, Albany, NY  12223

Further Details: (518) 474-7080
http://www.dps.state.ny.us
FOR RELEASE: IMMEDIATELY                    97076/96C1158


PSC FAVORS USE OF NEW "646" AREA CODE FOR MANHATTAN AS AN OVERLAY

Albany, September 30 -- The New York State Public Service Commission
today began its consideration of methods for providing a long term
supply of phone numbers for Manhattan and indicated that an overlay of
a new 646 area code over the current 212 code appeared preferable to
splitti ng Manhattan into two area codes.  Similarly, the Commission
indicated its preference for using an overlay when necessary in the
near future to provide new local numbers in the 718 area code serving
the other boro ughs of New York City.  However, before making a final
decision, the Commission directed its staff and the parties to provide
additional information on an outstanding competitive issue by the end
of October.

The overlay approach has significant advantages because it avoids
forced number changes, it will not impose unnecessary expenses on
existing businesses for reprinting advertising a nd other material,
and it prevents potentially controversial geographic divisions, noted
Public Service C ommission Chairman John F.  OMara.  However, it is
critical that the overlay be implemented in a competitively neutral
manner.

During the course of the Commissions proceeding, two main alternatives
for addressing the imminent exhaustion of local phone numbers in
Manhattan were developed: the use of an overlay and the separation of
Manhattan into two area codes at 23rd Street.  Either proposal would
use 646 as a new area code -- the one designated for use in Manhattan
by the national North American Numbering Plan.

 Staff determined that the advantages of the overlay outweighed the
disadvantages raised in the case and that the overlay was preferable
to the geographic split of Manhattan into two area codes. In addition,
the weight of public comment solicited by the Commission from
throughout New York City favored using overlays, with strong support
coming from senior citizens, the handicapped and businesses.

An overlay in Manhattan would superimpose 646 over the existing 212
area code.  In doing so, it would allow all current customers to
retain their existing phone numbers and their cu rrent area code,
thereby eliminating the expense and inconvenience of changing phone
numbers.  Further, it would provide the longest period of relief,
estimated to be about 6.5 years.

By contrast, a geographic split of Manhattan into two area codes at
23rd Street would force over one million customers to change their
area code, with thousands of them also forced to change their local
7-digit telephone number as well.  These changes could be confusing,
especially to the elderly and visually-impaired, and expensive for
business customers who would have to change part or all of th eir
telephone numbers.

The Commission postponed final action today on adopting the overlay
approach pending the outcome of a special staff/industry task force
examination of number pooling, an outstanding competitive
issue. Number pooling refers to the process of pooling all remaining,
unassigned local numbers in the 212 area code and assigning them to
customers on an as-needed basis without regard to the company serving
the customer. The Commission today endorsed staffs belief that
resolution of this issue, in conjunction with the scheduled
implementation of permanent number portability, will alleviate
competitors concerns about the overlay.  The Commission directed staff
to lead a task force in developing a plan to implement number pooling
as soon as possible.  Staff will report back to the Commission on its
progress by the end of October.

The Commission also expressed concern about the existing Federal
Communication s Commission (FCC) requirement that all calls throughout
the area covered must be completed using 11-digit dialing (1+area
code+local number) when an overlay is implemented. According to the
FCC, this requirement is designed to ensure that competing local phone
companies are not disadvantaged by a system that may result in calls
by or to their customers being more likely to entail dialing 11 digits
because the company was assigned more 646 numbers. While Manhattan
customers are accustomed to 11-digit local dialing for calls to other
boroughs, the Commission believes that the FCC requirement for
11-digit dialing for all calls within Manhattan would be inconvenient,
confusing and would be unnecessary if number pooling and permanen t
number portability are implemented as envisioned by the Commission.
As such, the Chairman directed counsel to take all necessary steps to
avoid the imposition of mandatory 11-digit dialing.

 In developing its proposal to use an overlay to address the
exhaustion of local phone numbers in Manhattan, Commission staff
worked collaboratively with industry and consumer representatives and
considered comments from six public statement hearings held throughout
New York City.  In addition, staff made more than 15 presentations to
residential and business organizations in Manhattan and the other
boroughs.  Staff also participated in eight meetings of community and
small bus iness leaders, observed focus group meetings sponsored by
NYNEX (now Bell Atlantic), and provided information at two large
expositions in New York City (the Getting Down to Business Fair and
the Black Expo).

In announcing it also favored the use of an overlay for the current
718 area code, the Commission recognized that, although estimates vary,
that area code could run out of local numbers as early as 1999.

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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    The NANP (and Area Codes), Fifty Years Ago, Oct 1947 (Mark J. Cuccia)
    100,000 Protest PR Telco Sale (Tad Cook)
    206/425/253 Split, Usual Problems (Tad Cook)
    Book Review: "Community Networks" by Cohill/Kavanaugh (Rob Slade)
    FCC Toll-Free Conservation (aka Rationing) Plan (Judith Oppenheimer)

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:30:26 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: The NANP (and Area Codes), Fifty Years Ago, Oct 1947


As we now begin the month of October 1997, it was sometime during
October fifty years ago (in 1947), that the original area code format
was 'finalized' by AT&T. Thus, the North American Numbering Plan was
born.

There _were_ two preliminary plans of assigning area codes. There was
a plan indicated as a map of the US in 1945 in issues of both {Bell
Laboratories Record} and {Bell System Technical Journal} magazines,
in articles on future automated toll dialing and switching - first to
be dialed by operators and later by customers. The 1945 map indicated
the (continental) US only, and indicated some 60 individual regions.
No codes were shown in the regions in the map -- only the possible
boundaries. Canada wasn't even indicated on the 1945 map in the
Bell magazine articles, although one of the articles did indicate
7-digit (2L-5N) dialing across NPA boundaries with 'protected' central
office digits where a metro area straddled an NPA boundary, and an
example cited in the article indicated that Windsor ON (Canada),
across the river from Detroit MI (USA) could be such a 'protected'
7-digit (2L-5N) dialing situation.

Another proposal was from 1946/47 would have all of the area codes in
a particular state be from a range of consecutive codes:
i.e. New York state would have used area codes 212, 213, 214, 215.

However, at some point in 1947, Bell Labs and AT&T decided to change
that plan, and instead issued the 'final' plan which has been built-on
for the past half-century. I only know that this final plan was issued
in October 1947, but I don't know which particular date in October
that a possible memo was released by AT&T regarding the nationwide
US/Canada numbering plan.

I had posted two articles to TELECOM Digest in 1996 on the preliminary
but never adopted area code plans. In April 1996 I posted a brief
article on the 1946/47 plan where a state with multiple NPA codes
would have had all of its codes from a range of consecutive codes.
And then in mid-December 1996, I posted a longer article on the
development of Operator Toll Dialing and its extension into customer
DDD (Direct Distance Dialing), and included a list of the 60 possible
regions (states, groups-of-states, portions of states) from the 1945
map of possible future area codes.

As for the 'final' plan issued in October 1947, here are the charts
showing the assignments. Linc Madison's website also has a map of the
US/Canada showing the 1947 assignments:
 http://www.best.com/~eureka/telecom/map_1947.html

N0X Form (States/Provinces with only ONE code assigned)
(40 codes assigned)

201 NJ  301 MD  401 RI  501 AR  601 MS  701 ND  801 UT  901 TN
202 DC  302 DE  402 NE  502 KY  602 AZ  702 NV  802 VT  902 mrtm.prv.
203 CT  303 CO  403 AB  503 OR  603 NH  703 VA  803 SC
204 MB  304 WV  404 GA  504 LA  604 BC  704 NC
205 AL  305 FL  405 OK  505 NM  605 SD
206 WA  306 SK  406 MT
207 ME  307 WY
208 ID


N1N Form (States/Provinces with several codes assigned)
(46 codes assigned)

212 NY  312 IL  412 PA  512 TX  612 MN  712 IA  812 IN
213 CA  313 MI  413 MA  513 OH  613 ON  713 TX          913 KS
214 TX  314 MO  414 WI  514 PQ  614 OH          814 PA  914 NY
215 PA  315 NY  415 CA  515 IA          715 WI  815 IL  915 TX
216 OH  316 KS  416 ON          616 MI  716 NY  816 MO  916 CA
217 IL  317 IN          517 MI  617 MA  717 PA
218 MN          418 PQ  518 NY  618 IL
        319 IA  419 OH


Note that in 1947, there were _no_ area codes assigned from the N09,
N00, N10, nor N11 ranges. The N11 range is still unavailable for NPA
assignments, since the eight N11 codes are reserved or used for local
3-digit service codes. The N09 range of area codes were first assigned
in 1957. The N10 range of area codes were assigned to automated/dial
TWX (Teletypewriter) service beginning in 1962, and continuing through
circa 1982. Although AT&T turned (US) TWX service over to WUTCO in the
early 1970's, it wasn't until the early 1980's when WUTCO began to
switch and route (US) TWX on its _own_ network instead of over the
Bell-System's DDD Telephone Network. And although TWX still exists
(WUTCO transferred it back to AT&T circa 1990/91), it is handled via
a separate network, not 'directly' associated with the AT&T regular
telephone long-distance network, and still uses numbers of the N10
form. Therefore, beginning around 1991, the N10 format as area codes
were assigned for regular (POTS) telephone services.

The N00 format was first assigned for SACs (Special Area Codes) around
the mid-1960's, with 800 being the first N00, used for InWATS (Inward
Wide-Area Telephone Service), aka "Toll-Free" called-party pays.

Note that there were 86 codes assigned to the (at that time) 48 states
of the US, including Washington (DC), as well as the ten provinces of
Canada.

Alaska and Hawaii weren't even states of the US at that time, nor were
they even indicated as even being (or intended to be) a part of the
US/Canada area code format. Canada's two northern territories, Yukon
and the Northwest Territories, weren't indicated as being a part of
the area code format, neither.

And while Mexico had been 'pseudo' NANP at one time (access to Mexico
City from the US was dialable 'as-if' it really were part of the NANP
switching/routing network) ... and for some time, certain towns along
the extreme northwestern border of Mexico were numbered and dialed
_and_ switched/routed as a part of the NANP/DDD network ... Mexico
was _not_ shown in 1947 to be intended as part of the NANP.

None of the Caribbean was indicated to be a part of the NANP in 1947.
Area Code 809 was first reserved/assigned to the Caribbean/Bermuda
area in 1958. Customer dialing between the Caribbean and the US/Canada
began to be introduced in the mid-to-late-1960's, and continuing
through the 1970's and 80's.

Newfoundland wasn't yet politically part of Canada in October 1947,
but it does seem possible that the original NPA 902 (which at that
time also served New Brunswick, in addition to Nova Scotia and Prince
Edward Island) also served Newfoundland/Labrador. In the mid-1950's,
NB and NF/LB split from 902 (which was retained for NS/PEI), into
their own 506; and then in 1962, NF/LB split off from 506 (which was
retained for NB), into its own 709.

Also note the original intent was that N0X format codes (N01 through
N08) were assigned to states/provinces which needed only one area code,
and that N1N format codes (N12 through N19) were assigned to states
and provinces which needed two or more area codes. That original
assignment plan was abandoned in the early 1950's, when assignments of
new area codes were beginning to increase.

And, note that short 'dial-pull' (lower numerical) area codes were
assigned to the more populated areas, due to the number of dialpulse
(rotary dial) CPE and switching equipment in existance in 1947. Such
shorter dial-pull area codes have fewer dial-pulses, and had been
desirable for assignment to such populated areas which would have more
incoming traffic than less populated areas.

New York City with 212
Los Angeles with 213
Dallas with 214
Philadelphia with 215
Chicago with 312
Detroit with 313
St.Louis with 314
Pittsburgh with 412
etc.

As for the 'single-NPA' states, they had N0X format codes. And even
though the middle-digit '0' is longer to dial with ten dialpulses,
the N0X area codes were assigned such that populated areas had
shorter-pull, fewer-dialpulse digits for the first and third digits
(even though the middle-digit '0' has ten total dialpulses):

201 for New Jersey
202 for DC
203 for Connecticut
301 for Maryland
302 for Delaware
401 for Rhode Island

These are all locations in the northeast or mid-Atlantic area, with
rather large metro areas, suburbs, etc., and thus a larger incoming
traffic volume. Note that rural Idaho has 208, a longer-pull code. Also
note the large number of codes which were unassigned in 1947, which are
from the longer dial-pull ranges.

While the area code format was 'finalized' in October 1947, customer
(and even operator) use of area-codes for long-distance dialing was
_QUITE_ limited. The area code format was a planning for the future,
so that every telephone line in the US and Canada would have its own
unique and distinct telephone number, for easy dialing and routing,
first by operators, and later by customers, at later dates, as new
automated toll switching (and ticketing) equipment was placed into
service, throughout the US/Canada telephone network.

Over the past fifty years, the NANP has had more codes assigned. First
there were many codes assigned throughout the 1950's and early 1960's,
due to the postwar economic and suburban 'boom', as well as the
introduction of automated customer long-distance dialing (DDD) in
addition to conversions of many manual local exchanges into dial
central offices. More customers and lines means more central office
codes. And as more central office codes are assigned, eventually new
area codes need to be created, usually by a split. Sometimes, new
area codes were created in the 1950's and early 1960's due to more
efficient trunking requirements as customer DDD was being introduced.

In the early 1960's, various conservation plans were being developed
to allow N0X/N1X format codes for local central office codes (to be
needed in some large populated areas, sometime by the mid-1970's), and
for NNX format codes to be used as area codes, sometime by the mid-to-
late-1990's. So-called 'interchangeable' NPA codes (NNX format) have
indeed been introduced beginning in 1995, and have been assigned at
rates never previously seen, surpassing the early rush of area code
assignments in the 1950's and early 1960's.

Our ten-digit numbering scheme (NXX-NXX-xxxx) in the NANP is expected
to exhaust all available (POTS) area codes sometime in the first-half
of the 21st Century. At first it was estimated to happen by 2050, but
because of the current rate of assignment of NPA codes, some have
pushed that date earlier to 2010. However, if local number portability
amongst the competitive local telcos is properly introduced over the
next ten years, or if central-office-code sharing takes place among
the various competitive telcos, it may be possible to reduce the rate
of area code assignments.

There are frequently questions as to why so many countries or
territories are included in a single numbering plan (CCITT/ITU Country
Code +1), rather than the US, Canada, and each individual Caribbean
island each having unique/distinct country-codes. In 1947, much of
Canada's telephone industry was directly associated with the US
telephone industry. AT&T did own a portion of Bell Canada; and AT&T's
Western Electric, along with Bell Canada, owned Northern Electric
(later known as Northern Telecom, now known as Nortel). The Caribbean
was intended to be added in 1958. Plans to incorporate Mexico into the
DDD network also existed since the late 1950's, and were first
introduced around the early-to-mid-1960's. The CCITT/ITU plans for
country-codes for each telephone country/network in the world wasn't
really introduced until around 1964 (although there was a preliminary
1960 plan for country codes for Europe, North Africa, and nearby Asian
countries).

In closing, while there were 86 area codes assigned for the NANP in
October 1947, fifty years later, on 1-October-1997, I am counting at
least 212 active "POTS" (non-SAC) area codes in the NANP, even if only
in permissive dialing. And the increase in new NPA codes is far from
over or even slowing down.


NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Class-5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-)
NWORLAIYCM1 (BellSouth-Mobility Hughes-GMH-2000 Cellular-MTSO NOL)
NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 fg-B/C/D Accss-Tandem "Main" 504+)
NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:Opr-Srvcs-Tandem "Main" 504+053+)
NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+)
JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121)

MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

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Subject: 100,000 Protest PR Telco Sale
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:18:42 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Saboteurs cut governor's phone, 100,000 protest telephone company sale

By Marion Lloyd
Associated Press Writer

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- Saboteurs cut telephone service to the
governor's office and other government facilities, throwing down the
gauntlet Wednesday before 100,000 demonstrators marched to protest the sale
of the Puerto Rico Telephone Co.

Federico Torres Montalvo, leader of the public sector union, said they
didn't expect to change the mind of Gov. Pedro Rossello but hoped to
intimidate possible buyers by showing the depth of workers' hostility.

The leader of one of the two telephone company unions, Alfonso Benitez
Rosa, called on Rossello to hold a referendum, and gave the governor a week
to respond.

"Strike! Strike!" thousands of people yelled in response, calling for
another strike to push the issue.

Unions and some civil, religious and political groups had called for a
general strike Wednesday, but shops and other private businesses operated
as usual.

It appeared the protest was confined mainly to government workers, the
bastion of embattled unions losing ground under an ambitious privatization
program. About a quarter of Puerto Rico's 1.2 million-strong workforce is
employed by the government.

The unions "are fighting a battle for their survival," said management
professor Elias Gutierrez of the University of Puerto Rico.

Bomb threats were reported at the governor's mansion, the Capitol building
and the Muniz U.S. Air Force, but police found no explosives.

Telephone company spokesman Nestor Concepcion said unidentified saboteurs
cut a fiber optic line overnight, causing $200,000 in damage and halting
telephone service to a leading hotel and several government offices.

Jose Martinez, a telephone company technician, said the company had
restricted access to the major telephone cables and locked manholes since
Monday.

"Legislators have to take a look, and decide how many votes they've got
here and how many they stand to lose," he said from atop a church
overlooking more than 100,000 demonstrators on two avenues flanking the
seaside Capitol.

The phone company makes $100 million a year and employs 8,000 people in
what some economists say is a management-heavy bureaucracy.

Few government schools opened in San Juan, indicating teachers heeded union
calls to strike and ignored government threats to dock their pay.

Of the electricity utility's 10,400 employees, only 2,700 managers and
executives came to work, said spokesman Freddie Marrero. Air traffic and
cargo ships operated normally, as did hospitals.

Around the Capitol, protesters danced to blaring merengue music and waved
Puerto Rican flags. Riot police in bulletproof vests lined the streets
alongside vendors selling codfish and plantain fritters, hot dogs and
hamburgers.

The governor says the telephone company sale would improve efficiency and
lower rates. Rossello has refused to guarantee that there will be no
layoffs in a takeover.

The unions claim the government is grasping for ways to bankroll exorbitant
building projects.

Rossello says sale profits would help a $5 billion shortfall in the state
retirement fund, repair a leaking water system and ensure continued
benefits to telephone workers.

------------------------------

Subject: 206/425/253 Split, Usual Problems
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:22:06 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Puget Sound Business Are Frustrated with Temperamental New Area Codes

By Cynthia Flash, The News Tribune, Tacoma, Wash.
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

TACOMA, Wash.--Oct. 3--Time is running out to fix any bugs associated with
the Puget Sound's new 253 and 425 area codes.

And with just six weeks before the new codes become the only option around,
some glitches do still exist.

The folks at Information Technologies Corp. in Puyallup report that some of
their customers from around the United States still can't get through using
253.

"If you use 253, you may or may not get your calls. If you use 206, you may
or may not get your calls," said a frustrated employee of the company,
which offers courses on such topics as how to collect judicial judgments
and child support.

The employee, who did not want his name used, estimates that Information
Technologies Corp. has lost $20,000 in sales since the region switched to
new area codes April 27.

The 206 area code was broken into three different codes. Seattle
and Vashon, Mercer and Bainbridge islands remain in 206; most of South King
and Pierce counties are in 253. The eastern and northern parts of King
County and the southern part of Snohomish County are in 425.

Officials with US West and the state Utilities and Transportation
Commission said they have received a few complaints like that of the
Puyallup business. But, they say, the problems don't seem to be widespread.

"We haven't received very many complaints," US West spokeswoman Dana Smith
said Thursday. "The complaints we do receive, the vast majority of them are
related to equipment problems."

Smith explained that every time a region gets a new area code, it's
up to the hundreds of individual telephone companies throughout the country
(and tens of thousands of businesses with complex phone systems) to
reprogram their telephone equipment to make sure it recognizes the new
codes.

Bellcore, the regulator of numbers for the nation's telephone industry,
notifies all telephone vendors monthly of new area codes and prefixes. It's
possible some vendors who maintain business telephone systems didn't
program the Puget Sound's new codes into their customers' telephone
systems, Smith said.

Steve King, a spokesman for the state utilities commission, said he's
received far fewer calls this time than he did when the region began using
the 360 area code two years ago.

Before the split into 360, all area codes had a 0 or 1 as the middle digit.
The change to a new number in the middle of the area code sent the
nation's telephone systems into a frenzy. Thousands of companies lost money
because callers were unable to get through.

With this latest code change, up until Nov. 15 callers can use the new
codes or continue to call 206 and still get through. King said he expects
to hear about more problems come Nov. 16, when callers will have to use the
new codes.

Until then, Smith and King urge businesses in this area to continue to tell
their out-of-town customers about the new area codes.

"Businesses here should be communicating with their customers, telling them
their phone number is changing and reminding them if they have
automatic-call equipment that it will need to be reprogrammed," King said.

THERE ARE TEST NUMBERS to call to determine if a phone system can access
the new area codes. If callers are able to get through to the test numbers,
they know their phones are working.

The numbers are: 1-253-627-0062 and 1-425-452-0009.

If telephone users have problems, they may call the US West customer
service line at 1-800-441-5516, or the telephone industry's area
code hot line at 1-888-97SPLIT.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:14:08 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Community Networks" by Cohill/Kavanaugh


BKCNLFBV.RVW   970320
 
"Community Networks", Andrew Michael Cohill/Andrea Lee Kavanaugh, 1997,
0-89006-896-8, U$39.00
%E   Andrew Michael Cohill http://www.bev.net/project/people/cohill
%E   Andrea Lee Kavanaugh
%C   685 Canton St., Norwood, MA   02062
%D   1997
%G   0-89006-896-8
%I   Artech House/Horizon
%O   U$39.00 617-769-9750 800-225-9977 fax: +1-617-769-6334
%O   artech@world.std.com bookco@artech.demon.co.uk
%P   334
%T   "Community Networks: Lessons from Blacksburg, Virginia"
 
In the last chapter, analyzing success factors of the Blacksburg
Electronic Village (BEV), one of the points is to "Show, do not tell,
community members how to use the technology as a way of increasing use
of the network in the community."  This same point applies to the book
itself.  It succeeds, where many other books on similar topics failed,
primarily because it shows the actual workings of a functional, and
functioning, electronic village.  This puts it far ahead of blue-sky
proposals of what might (or might not) become possible in the future.
 
An introduction and historical background leads into discussion of
architecture, evaluation, democracy, education, business, technology,
information management, history database, and the aforementioned
success factors.  Economics are touched on in various articles, but it
is a pity that an overview treatment is not included.
 
Still, any such flaws are far outweighed by the value of the reality
and experience that the various authors bring to the task.  Blacksburg
has validated certain promises of the information age -- and
challenged others.  Planners of information infrastructures, national
or otherwise, ignore it at their peril.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKCNLFBV.RVW   970320


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:28:58 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: FCC Toll Free Conservation (aka Rationing) Plan


New York, NY October 3, 1997 (ICB TOLL FREE NEWS) On September 29,
1997, the FCC directed DSMI to implement the toll free conservation
plan as of 12:01 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time, Saturday, October 4,
1997.

The plan implemented by the FCC is the one developed and submitted by
industry-forum SNAC (SMS Number Administration Committee).

Of unusual note is the suggestion, and the FCC's approval, for a
'banking' system, to give each RespOrg a credit for the unused portion
of its weekly allocation on the conservation plan.  The FCC letter
states, 'We believe such a plan could be beneficial, because it would
minimize any incentive to reserve numbers unnecessarily.  We would,
however, encourage SNAC to develop a proposal that would limit the
amount of numbers that could be 'banked' from week to week.'

The Actual Allotment

The FCC directed as follows:

1.  For purposes of this conservation plan, 'work status' refers to a
toll free number that has been loaded in the Service Control Points
and is being utilized to complete toll free service calls.

2.  A RespOrg with fewer than 1,000 numbers in working status as of
August 23, 1997 may reserve up to 200 numbers each week.

3.  A RespOrg with between 1,000 and 30,000 numbers in working status
as of August 23, 1997 may reserve up to 250 numbers each week.

4.  A RespOrg with more than 30,000 numbers in working status as of
August 23, 1997 may reserve up to 0.95 percent of the numbers the
RespOrg had in working status on August 23, 1997.

5.  RespOrgs are reminded that under the Commission's regulations, 47
C.F.R. 52.105, RespOrgs may not reserve toll free numbers without
having an actual toll free subscriber for whom those numbers are being
reserved.

New RespOrg Certifications

The FCC ordered that DSMI can process and grant, 'where appropriate',
applications that it has received in its office as of September 29,
1997.  RespOrgs certified as a result of that procedure may reserve up
to 200 numbers per week during the period of the conservation plan.

DSMI can also process and grant 'where appropriate', applications that
it receives after September 29, 1997, but RespOrgs certified as a
result of that process may not reserve toll free numbers until 877 is
opened up.

'Appropriate' RespOrg applications is not defined.

Reporting Procedures

Finally, DSMI is to file weekly reports with the FCC's Network
Services Division of the Common Carrier Bureau as well as SNAC,
containing the following:

1.  The quantity of numbers in the spare pool.

2.  The quantity of numbers being returned to the spare pool of
available numbers each week by category (for example, numbers that
have been disconnected and whose aging period has expired; numbers
that were reserved but not assigned and are automatically returned
after 45 days; etc.)

3.  The quantity of numbers actually served from Sunday to Saturday,
each week, beginning Sunday, October 5, 1997.


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From: Donald M. Heiberg <dheiberg@ecentral.com>
Subject: 303 and Overlay of 720
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:54:03 -0600


Colorado Public Utilities Commission
http://www.puc.state.co.us/docket/97m329t/min925a.html

Colorado Numbering Task Force Minutes
September 25-26, 1997

Members Present
Bruce Armstrong - Colorado PUC
Mike Whaley - U S West
Jack Ott - Numbering Plan Administrator
Mike Sheridan - AT&T
Mike Lachman - Pagenet
Karen Mulberry - MCI
Dennis McClure - TCG
Joe Klein - ICG
Dian Callaghan - OCC
Jeff Swan - PTI

Members Absent
Cathy Handley - PCIA
Tom Wilkinson - 9-1-1 (USWC)

Non-Members Present
Becky Quintana - Colorado PUC
P.B. Schechter - OCC
Pete Tanna - U S West
Bruce Bennett - Lockheed Martin
Steve Denman - Counsel for Numbering Administrator
Letty Friesen - TCG Counsel
Rhonda Marshall - AT&T
John Andrews - PTI
Tommy Thompson - U S West
Barry Hjort - CTA

This is the first meeting of the Colorado Numbering Task Force as 
required by Colorado Commission decision; therefore no minutes are to be 
approved.

All persons present identified themselves and a sign-up sheet was passed 
around. Copies of the sign-up sheet were distributed to all present. The 
chair provided a general overview of the short-term and long-term 
objectives of the Task Force.

According to the Commission order establishing the Task Force, its 
original purpose was twofold: to develop long term solutions for the 
efficient management of telephone numbers in the State of Colorado and 
to develop a timeline for accomplishing this objective. Because of the 
immediate desire of the Commission to conserve the current central 
office codes in the 303 area code, the Commission consolidated the 
Application of the Numbering Administrator to implement conservation 
measures with the Task Force docket and directed the first meeting of 
the Task Force to discuss procedures for implementing decisions of the 
Task Force.

There was discussion regarding the forwarding of the recommendations of 
the Task Force to the Commission and the use of emergency rulemaking as 
a means to implement the desires of the Task Force. For cases where 
consensus cannot be reached, the use of majority and minority positions 
in either paper or oral form to the Commission for decision was 
discussed. No decision was reached as to the most appropriate way to 
handle non-consensus situations. Although the Commission does not have 
regulatory jurisdiction over the services and rates of certain central 
office code holders (e.g., wireless providers), the Commission has 
indicated that it believes it has jurisdiction over the telephone 
numbers and therefore will exert its jurisdiction over telephone numbers 
of all holders. The idea of emergency rulemaking did not seem to have 
much support by the group.

Jack Ott reminded the group that the selection of a neutral third party 
administrator will happen shortly and there will be a transition from 
the current administrator to a new administrator.

There was a discussion of the use of consensus as proposed by the 
Commission in its order. There were two differing views of consensus. 
The chair suggested the use of unanimity. It was suggested that the 
current industry use of consensus only requires that all parties be 
heard, a large majority of the parties agree and that not more than one 
party on a single industry segment disagrees with the result. No final 
decision was reached on how to deal specifically with non-consensus 
results.

There was some discussion on the problems associated with E-911 services 
in a number pooling/rate center consolidation environment. (More 
discussion later).

There was some general discussion of selecting a date certain for the 
turning up of the 720 area code for the purpose of establishing a 
specific customer education program. This would involve the requirement 
to establish a date for mandatory ten digit dialing. A comment was made 
regarding the pushing back the date for mandatory ten-digit dialing that 
it might negatively affect CLECs who are supposed to receive remaining 
303 codes.

The Commission order has told the Task Force to determine if the 
conservation measures can forestall the implementation of the 720 code. 
We are not running out of numbers; we are running out of central office 
codes. Is there any remedy to this situation?

There was a discussion by Mike Lachman regarding the availability of 1+ 
local calling on a permissive basis. Although no question was called, 
this issue did not seem to have any negative response by the group.

Some specific facts were raised regarding the 303 Area code. 43 rate 
centers today. LNP is to be implemented in the majority of the 303 area 
by June 30, 1998. 56 % of numbers have been assigned in the 303 code but 
only 77 codes remain available. The Administrator estimates that only 
approximately 20 codes will remain by January 1. U S WEST is reclaiming 
some unused central office codes; but September, 1998 projected exhaust 
includes this reclamation. The numbering administrator has declared a 
jeopardy situation in the 303 code. February 1, 1998 is the date for the 
beginning of permissive 10-digit dialing in the 303 area.

The Task Force reviewed the Commission's order for a list of suggested 
conservation methods. The list includes recapturing unused NXX codes, 
thousand block integrity, code sharing, rate center consolidation and, 
generically, number pooling. Each item was discussed individually as to 
its merits.

Regarding the recapture of unused NXX codes, Jack Ott informed the group 
that he has already taken steps to perform this task and that the 
forecasted exhaust date of September, 1998 includes the recapture of all 
unused NXX codes.

Thousand block integrity is the process whereby central office code 
holders would be required to manage the numbers in the block of 10,000 
numbers assigned for each central office code such that each successive 
block of one thousand numbers (e.g., 1000-1999) prior to opening up the 
next thousand block of numbers. Regarding thousand block integrity, 
several parties conclude that any effort on thousand block integrity 
will not have any effect on the exhaust of the 303 code. The rationale 
is that any utilization of spare thousand blocks will require the 
implementation of number pooling. Also, there is a problem with 
assignment of numbers to certain PBXs wherein certain thousand blocks 
might not work (0XXX, 8XXX, 9XXX) and the assignment of "vanity" 
numbers. Since number pooling is predicted to take a long time to 
implement, or at least until after the implementation of LNP in second 
quarter of 1998. This issue was not resolved by the group.

Code sharing is the current practice of sharing an NXX code in two 
different switches. U S West utilizes this technology in instances where 
an analog switch is serving an area wherein digital features are 
required. U S West places a digital switching unit that is remoting off 
of a digital host in another wire center. A block of numbers (possibly a 
thousand block) in the analog switch is dedicated to the digital remote 
switch. U S West is concerned that this technology uses significant 
amounts of memory in the SCPs and it is not effectively deployable on a 
ubiquitous basis. This functionality requires seven digit routing where 
it is deployed.

There was a large amount of discussion regarding the possibility of rate 
center consolidation within the 303 area. Jack Ott had proposed a 
specific rate center consolidation proposal in his application to the 
Commission. If rate center consolidation could be accomplished, gains 
could be made in the provision of central office codes to new facilities 
based providers. There is also the possibility of reclaiming codes from 
existing providers if those providers have not activated those codes, 
but we do not have data at the current time to determine this. Concerns 
about rate center consolidation centered on requirements for 
modifications of local calling areas and E911 problems.

Regarding local calling area modifications, it is apparent that 
collapsing rate centers would affect the local calling areas of many 
areas. For example, Longmont can only call Boulder and Lafayette in the 
Denver local calling area. If the Denver local calling area were 
collapsed into one rate center as proposed by Mr. Ott, any LEC receiving 
a new NXX code theoretically could serve all customers in the Denver 
local calling area with the one NXX. The question then arises that the 
new NXX code serves areas accessible and inaccessible to the existing 
Longmont local calling area. Since there are numerous local calling 
areas that overlap like this, this is a problem that would need to be 
addressed prior to performing a rate center consolidation. It was also 
pointed out that any change in local calling areas will require a formal 
rate filing by all ILECs involved and public hearings to follow. This 
will undoubtedly be a request for an increase in the local rates for 
Colorado basic telephone service customers. This will require customer 
notifications and will likely take several months to complete. No 
decision was reached on an exact time period for such a change.

Regarding E911, the issue is that any consolidation of rate centers 
needs to consider the problems that arise in the current E911 system. 
The problem is when a 911 call gets to the 911 PSAP without appropriate 
Automatic Number Identification (ANI) information to identify the 
customer for lookup in the Automatic Location Identification (ALI) 
database. Since the Denver calling area has multiple jurisdictions 
(i.e., counties), 911 calls must be able to route to the appropriate 
default PSAP in these ANI failure situations. The group decided that it 
would be advantageous to get input from the 911 community on the 
specifics of 911 problems. Dian Callaghan offered to try to get an 
appropriate person to our meeting on Friday (9/26).

On Friday, the group continued the discussion on the possibilities of 
rate center consolidation as basically the only short term solution to 
number conservation in the 303 area that has not already been 
accomplished or planned. It was noted that both Minnesota and Arizona ad 
accomplished rate center consolidations. The 602 area code in Arizona 
e Commission offices. Action items (see below) we discussed.

We developed a preliminary timeline for estimating dates:

February 1, 1998 - Permissive dialing begins (Commission order) 

June 1, 1998 - Earliest date for beginning of mandatory ten-digit dialing 

June 30, 1998 - Date for implementation of LNP in Denver MSA 

July 1, 1998 - Date for opening of 720 code (Assuming 9/1/98 303 exhaust date) 

September 1, 1998 - Tentative date for 303 exhaust (from Number
Administrator). This date might be affected in either direction
depending upon other factors (e.g., rate center consolidation, changes
in estimated growth rates)

The Task Force adjourned to the Commission's weekly meeting to hear the 
discussion on the number administrator's utilization report.

Action Items:

1. Jack Ott will provide a complete list of all NXX code holders in the 
303 area and which NXXs they hold. Bruce Armstrong already has data from 
an information request provided by U S WEST. However, if there are any 
updates, Jack needs to provide that to Bruce. 

2. Bruce will make a data request to U S West (and all other companies
providing toll services) to provide a complete analysis of toll
revenues (including messages and minutes) within the 303 area. This
should be provided in as disaggregate a manner as possible to be able
to test all scenarios for potential effects to ILECs for rate center
consolidation. (Data was requested by Commission Staff on 9/30/97.)

3. Bruce will issue a data request to all NXX code holders to request
specific utilization data from all code holders. This data should be
the same data that was used to assemble the data for the September 15
utilization report to the Commission by the Number Administrator. The
Commission in its regular weekly meeting expressed its interest in
receiving this data from all code holders in an expeditious
manner. (Bruce/Becky sent requests to all code holders via FAX on
9/30/97 allowing for five business days turnaround.) 

4. A meeting with the Denver area 911 experts (members of the 911 Task
Force) will meet on October 14 at 1 p.m. at the Commission. The
purpose of the meeting is to understand the issues surrounding the 911
system, LNP and rate center consolidation and to attempt resolution of
problems. 

5. Jack Ott will review the code application records for the
303 area and check for outstanding Part 4 forms. 

6. Jack Ott will provide a description of the Part 4 process at the
next meeting of the Task Force. 

7.Jack Ott will draw up details of an audit process for consideration
by the Task Force at the next meeting. This audit process will be used
to track the utilization of numbers by any code holders. 

8.The next meeting of the Task Force will be on October 22-23,
1997. 

9.The tentative agenda for the next meeting includes discussion
of the previous action items as well as selection of a date for the
beginning of mandatory ten digit dialing.


Respectfully submitted,

Bruce Armstrong
Chair of the Task Force
October 2, 1997 

------------------------------

From: Mario A. Castano-Gonzalez <m.a.castano@ieee.org>
Subject: Local Number Portability and Interconnecting Network Services
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:18:10 -0500


Hello ...

We at CINTEL (Centro de Investigacion de las Telecomunicaciones de 
Colombia) are analyzing the problem of implementing the national-wide 
interconnection of the intelligent network services provided by the 
several local telcos (with special interest in how to provide local 
number portability LNP).

Here in Colombia we have in this moment more than 30 local service 
providers and one long distance provider, but many more are entering the 
local and long distance markets.

Thus why we are interested in knowing how these problems are being
faced in USA, and the products the IN providers are currently
offering.


Regards,

Mario A. Castano-Gonzalez
Chief Planning Officer

Centro de Investigacion de las Telecomunicaciones - CINTEL
Av 9 118-85
Bogota  Colombia

Tels: +57 1 620 8307
Fax: +57 1 214 4121
Email: m.a.castano@ieee.org
http://www.colciencias.gov.co/cintel/

CINTEL (Centro de Investigacion de las Telecomunicaciones,
Telecommunications Research Center, established 1993) is a private,
non-profit organization with 43 shareholders that represent the most
important companies related with the telecommunications business in
Colombia, including 23 local and long distance telephone service
providers, universities, telecomms equipment providers and
governmental institutions. We provide R&D, standardization,
certification, consulting and training services to the whole
telecommunications sector in our country. Our objective is to
collaborate in the technological development of the telecommunications
companies and services in Colombia.

------------------------------

Subject: California AT&T Outage
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:36:26 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Temporary telephone service outage in Chico-Redding area

CHIC0, Calif. (AP) -- Long-distance telephone service in the northern
Sacramento Valley was interrupted for several hours Friday, and the cause
of it was not immediately known.

An AT&T spokesman said the outage began shortly after 6:30 a.m. in the
Redding-Chico area and lasted until about 10:15 a.m.

"There was an impact on calls in and out of the 916 area code," said
Dave Johnson, a spokesman at AT&T's network headquarters in
Bedminister, N.J. Toll calls within some areas of the 916 zone also
were affected.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:29:43 -0700
From: Anthony Argyriou <anthony@alphageo.com>
Subject: Anti-Spam Spam?


Pat -

I've received several copies of a very interesting spam:

> Subject: Win95 CancelBot Lets ANYONE Delete Spam WORLDWIDE!
> Reply-To: dougb@adram.com

> A Windows 95 Cancel-bot? Finally *WE* can control the Usenet, and 
> spammers once and for all ... With this incredible creation SPAM WILL BE 
> HISTORY BY THANKSGIVING!

> I read about it in a newsgroup, got it and it works like a champ! 

> Using this incredible well designed CancelBot, we can kill all the
> Spam on UseNet, and in our favorite newsgroups, protect our domain
> names, email addresses, etc., from being forged and misused by
> spammers.

> All you have to do is scan the UseNet, using key-word searches, and
> the program will run in automatic mode issuing cancels even while
> you're asleep.  This is the beginning of the END of spam forever -
> thanks to CrisLewis, Inc, and their developers.

Anyone know anything about this?  What is their benefit?

Anthony Argyriou

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Chris Lewis (at least I think there
is an 'H' in his name) has long been a spam fighter, going back to
what seems now to be an eternity ago when everyone's favorite villian
was King Spam I (what was his name?) down in Albuquerque, NM. Ah yes,
Jeff Slaton. Probably King Spam II is much worse; far more of a tyrant
than Slaton ever dreamed of being. Chris Lewis used to issue cancels
by the boat load in those days which generally were well-recieved by
Usenet denizens. It happened now and then -- at least in my opinion --
that he got over-enthusiastic at times, and the scripts he used some-
times had the effect of making even legitimate discussion of Slaton 
and his tactics difficult to carry on without those messages also
getting cancelled. I remember several messages about Slaton which I
had passed along to the Digest (and comp.dcom.telecom) getting can-
celled for no apparent reason until Lewis told me his 'criteria' and
I was able to avoid those certain strings, etc in future messages. 

Chris Lewis certainly is honest and dedicated to his cause, which
seems to be the total eradication of spam during our lifetime (do
you remember when they used to say that about cancer research?). I
would have no hesitation in ordering and using his software. Now
whether or not he had to spam in order to make his product known
is another story <snicker> ... you see, it is spam when you do it
and I don't like the product or 'service' being offered; on the
other hand it is an 'important net-wide broadcast announcement' 
when I do it and think everyone needs to know about it. That is, I
guess, one unfortunate side affect of spam: to combat it requires
splashing the cure all over the net in the same way the chain letters
and other worthless crap gets splashed everywhere. In his case, I
think I can tolerate it; if he and others making a concerted effort
to take back the net are successful, we will owe them a big debt
of gratitude. 

One problem I see with his solution though is that key words/phrases,
even those vocabularies developed by highly sophisticated scripts
written by experienced programmer/developers are bound to miss some
spam which is probably not as bad as the fact that it will take down
some valid messages at the same time. Having everyone and his brother
running the cancelbot indiscriminatly -- and you know some people will
try to 'improve' on the script -- is going to cause some havoc. I 
would much rather see a restricted distribution of the software to
a few of the guys who really know what they are doing but if the 
intent is to sell the software and make a little money from the
miserable condition of the newsgroups these days, then obviously
a restricted distribution is not in the best interest of the guy(s)
who put it together. <bitter smile> ... in other words, they sent
out spam. Are we going around in circles here? If you are asking
my opinion, I'd say take a chance on his product, and try to ignore
the inconsistencies here. But now you see, the guys who say, "I 
will never buy anything which is presented to me as a UCE or
lunchmeat" are in a bind. Do they make an exception to their own
rule in this case? I guess there are exceptions to all rules, 
including the rule that there are exceptions to all rules. Let's
call it an important net-wide broadcast announcement. If anyone
contacts Chris and gets a copy, please check it out and let us
all know if it does the job.    PAT] 

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: WorldCom - MCI Merger?
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:14:34 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom17.269.9@telecom-digest.org>, Chris Moffett
<Moffett.Chris@MFSDatanet.COM> wrote:

> [summary: WorldCom (WCOM) has announced a bid to buy MCI (MCIC), which
>  has been in the process of acquisition by British Telecom (BTY).  Also,
>  WorldCom has been acquiring MFS Communications, CompuServe, and Brooks
>  Fiber Properties (BFPT).]
>                   Full story at www.cnnfn.com
> 
> This is a clip from the CNNfn web page and I was looking for comments
> on this offer from other readers. Do you think this will be allowed
> (FCC or Justice Dept.)?  Will this make WorldCom an unbeatable force
> in the telecom world?

First of all, it is important to note that there are two angles on
this deal that will require review.  First is the basic long-distance
business, in which this would be the merger of the #4 and #2 players.
Second is the Internet business; one analysis I saw suggested that the
combined company would control over 60% of the backbone in the U.S.,
and a majority worldwide.

All the same, the combined long-distance holdings of WorldCom and MCI
would still be smaller than AT&T, and 60+% of the Internet is probably
not sufficient to trigger antitrust intervention, at least not without
other factors coming into play.

However, there is concern in the Internet community because some of the
upper management of WorldCom have been outspoken critics of flat-rate
pricing for individual Internet access.


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com
  >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<

------------------------------

From: Michael R. Ward <ward1@ux6.cso.uiuc.deu>
Subject: Re: WorldCom - MCI Merger?
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:02:16 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois


The antitrust folks at DOJ will do a first cut by calculating market
shares and HHI and the change in HHI that the merger implies (HHI
10,000 times sum of squared market shares).  Bigger HHIs come from
more concentrated industies which are, presumably, less compatitve.
Mergers in industries with HHI < 1000 or in which HHI changes by < 50
get approved.  Likewise, mergers in industries with HHI < 1800 AND
change in HHI < 100 get approved.  If the merger does not pass these
tests, it will usually get a more thorough review.

The long distance currently has an HHI in the 2200 to 2500 range
depending on what how you define market share.  This merger would yield
a change in HHI of between 200 and 350.  Therefore, we should expect the
DOJ to conduct a more thorough investigation.  However, after similar
reviews, both the FTC and the DOJ have been approving mergers in which
the HHI was around 3000 or the change in HHI is around 400.  If I had to
bet, I would expect the DOJ to eventually approve the merger.


Michael R. Ward                                   (217) 244-5667
Dept. of Ag. and Consumer Econ.                   ward1@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois          http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/ward1

------------------------------

From: Dennis.-.MCI.Stockholder@zippo.com
Subject: Re: WorldCom - MCI Merger?
Date: 3 Oct 1997 13:09:10 -0700
Organization: None


In article <telecom17.269.9@telecom-digest.org>, Chris says:

> Do you think this will be allowed by 
> (FCC or Justice Dept.)?  Will this make WorldCom an unbeatable force
> in the telecom world?

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

As a stockholder and former MCI employee, I would be very surprised if
this ever takes place. The current borad of MCI has a very cozy
relationship with BT. They will all be keeping their jobs, they will
receive tremendous stock options, etc, if the merger with BT goes
through. Why do you think they caved in and agreed to sell out the
stockholders by accepting an undervalued offer for MCI from BT?  They
were not looking out for the stockholder's interests, they were
seeking to increase their own personal wealth at our expense.

I do not believe the stockholders would have approved the revised
BT/MCI merger.  That is why WorldCom has made this move. However, the
stockholders of both BT and MCI have approved the original merger. My
guess is that MCI and BT will merge under the orignal, approved terms
to thwart the Worldcom bid.


Dennis

PS: Any MCI stockholder that would vote to merge with MCI under the
revised plan needs to have their head examined. It stinks if you are a
stockholder.

------------------------------

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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 5 Oct 97 09:31:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 272

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    I Fell For it Also (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: Anti-Spam Spam? (Jack Hamilton)
    Re: Anti-Spam Spam? (John R. Levine)
    Re: Anti-Spam Spam? (Tom Betz)
    Re: Anti-Spam Spam? (Ryan Tucker)
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 08:22:39 EDT
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)
Subject: I Fell For it Also


After running the message yesterday about the new anti-spam script
developed and being distributed by 'CrisLewis' I got a few messages
saying the person doing this was an imposter, using Chris Lewis'
name to make it seem more authentic. It now appears the `anti-spam'
product is just another in a long line of scams and frauds being
distributed on the net these days. I've included several messages
in this issue telling about it.


PAT

------------------------------

From: jfh@mail.org.uk (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Anti-Spam Spam?
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 22:11:21 GMT
Organization: Copyright (c) 1997 by Jack Hamilton


On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:29:43 -0700, TELECOM Digest Editor noted in
response to Anthony Argyriou <anthony@alphageo.com>:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Chris Lewis (at least I think there
> is an 'H' in his name) has long been a spam fighter,

Another well-know spam fighter was CancelMoose, an entity who appeared
out of nowhere to cancel spam.  He (or she) conducted business through
the late, lamented anonymous mail service at anon.penet.fi (now closed,
apparently as the result of attacks by the Church of Scientology). 

CancelMoose is now retired, but left behind at least two legacies: 
NoCeM, a method of identifying and deleting spam; and PGPMoose, a 
set of programs to cancel messages with forged approvals in moderated
newsgroup.  These new programs are maintained by known people, but we
never found out who the original CancelMoose was.  I bet Chris Lewis 
knows, though...

This new spam cancellation program you mention, from "Crislewis, Inc.", 
is *not* associated with the Chris Lewis of spam-fighting fame.  It 
surprised me that he would be charging for such a product, and
advertising it in such a fashion, so I looked through Yahoo and found 
this: 

> Subject:      Re: Usenet Cancel Engine--Some Questions
> From:         clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
> Date:         1997/10/03
> Message-Id:   <6138m2$pom@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
> Newsgroups:   news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,alt.stop.spamming

> In article <60taha$ups$1@orthanc.reference.com>, <enlow@direcpc.com>
> wrote:

>> It is now over - and I give to you - The Windows95/NT UseNet Cancel
>> Engine - in honor and recognition of the outstanding contributions
>> given to the UseNet community by Chris Lewis and his sacrificial
>> contributions, diligent, and conscientious efforts to save what would
>> certainly be a *dead* UseNet if it weren't for his work.  That sir, is
>> why the company was named CrisLewis, Inc. by its owners, we are the
>> marketing arm of that entity under contract but in my own personal
>> opinion he definitely deserves the credit for the resolve of the
>> greatest problem, and most controversial issue in Internet history.

> Dear Mr. Enlow,

> I should formally state that you are clearly attempting to use my name
> and reputation as an endorsement of your software (your message stands as
> proof of this), and that I very strongly object to you doing so.  I hereby
> demand that you remove my name from any and all advertising or other
> material that attempts to associate me in any way with your software,
> services, or business identity.

> Furthermore, the misspelling in "CrisLewis, Inc" is clearly not
> sufficient to disconnect me from association with your services, because
> I have on file several email messages from people who believe that
> "CrisLewis, Inc" is referring to me - hence the misspelling is clearly
> inadequate to prevent people from believing I am somehow involved or
> endorsing your product - but as you said above, it's clear that the
> association is deliberate.

> Without prejudice, I should point out that there is plenty of legal
> precedent in the US (and Canada) to award heavy penalties for the use
> of people's names (or likenesses in some cases) to endorse products or
> services against their wishes.  It certainly can also be considered
> false advertising.

> I would appreciate your immediate attention to this issue, and
> immediate removal of my name or clear variations thereof from any and
> all further communications or legal documents related to you, your
> products, and your business entities.

> Regards,

> Chris Lewis
> Box 124, Dunrobin, Ontario
> Canada K0A 1T0

> The rumours of my demise are greatly exaggerated.

> Support the anti-Spam amendment.  Join at http://www.cauce.org/
> Anti-spam resources: http://spam.abuse.net

                        --------------------

This product is being promoted in a misleading way, and has potential
for doing great damage if it works as advertised.  Someone could
easily cancel every approved article in comp.dcom.telecom, by accident
or deliberately.

It's hard to tell, from looking at the product's web page at
<http://www.win.net/~spamkill/uce.htm>, just how much this program
costs for individual use, but it has a multilevel distribution plan,
which raises my suspicions, and the advertising relies heavily on
emotional manipulation.  Avoid it.


Jack Hamilton
Sacramento, California
jfh @ alumni . stanford . org
PGP ID: 79E07035  FP:156BBDDC 77FAB77F D1CAC4BA 70765C63

------------------------------

Date: 4 Oct 1997 14:28:04 -0000
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Anti-Spam Spam?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


>> All you have to do is scan the UseNet, using key-word searches, and
>> the program will run in automatic mode issuing cancels even while
>> you're asleep.  This is the beginning of the END of spam forever -
>> thanks to CrisLewis, Inc, and their developers.

This is actually a piece of junk sold by chronic spammer Mike Enlow.
Chris Lewis is, to put it mildly, not pleased to have his name
associated with it and is apparently prepared to sue to get Enlow to
stop using his name.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com, Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4  2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47 

------------------------------

From: tbetz@panix.com (Tom Betz)
Subject: Re: Anti-Spam Spam?
Date: 5 Oct 1997 01:33:13 GMT
Organization: Society for the Elimination of Junk Unsolicited Bulk Email
Reply-To: tbetz@pobox.com


Quoth Anthony Argyriou <anthony@alphageo.com> in
<telecom17.271.4@telecom-digest.org>:

> I've received several copies of a very interesting spam:

> Subject: Win95 CancelBot Lets ANYONE Delete Spam WORLDWIDE!
> Reply-To: dougb@adram.com

>> A Windows 95 Cancel-bot? Finally *WE* can control the Usenet, and 
>> All you have to do is scan the UseNet, using key-word searches, and
>> the program will run in automatic mode issuing cancels even while
>> you're asleep.  This is the beginning of the END of spam forever -
>> thanks to CrisLewis, Inc, and their developers.

> Anyone know anything about this?  What is their benefit?

> Anthony Argyriou

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Chris Lewis (at least I think there
> is an 'H' in his name) has long been a spam fighter, going back to
> what seems now to be an eternity ago when everyone's favorite villian
> was King Spam I (what was his name?) down in Albuquerque, NM. Ah yes,
> Jeff Slaton. Probably King Spam II is much worse; far more of a tyrant
> than Slaton ever dreamed of being. 

Word among the anti-spam community is that this Cancelbot is the product 
of one Mike Enlow, spammer and PI scammer.

You can entertain yourself by browsing my Mike Enlow Parody Page Mirror 
Site at <http://www.panix.com/~tbetz/enlow/>, or you can do a Dejanews
search on his name for more recent information.

> Chris Lewis certainly is honest and dedicated to his cause, which
> seems to be the total eradication of spam during our lifetime (do
> you remember when they used to say that about cancer research?). I
> would have no hesitation in ordering and using his software. 

It's not Chris' software;  it's a  feeble attempt at defamation by 
Mike Enlow, whose many Usenet spams Chris and others have cancelled.


We have tried ignorance       |            Tom Betz, Generalist               |
for a very long time, and     | Want to send me email? First, read this page: |
it's time we tried education. | <http://www.panix.com/~tbetz/mailterms.shtml> |
<http://www.pobox.com/~tbetz> |   I mock up my reactive mind twice daily.     |


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well that goes to show how little I 
knew about it ... I wonder why he simply did not use his own name --
or if his own name is too badly besmirched in the community -- some 
other name where now he would not be so likely to get sued by the
real owner of the name.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: rtucker+19971004@crasher2.ttgcitn.com (Ryan Tucker)
Subject: Re: Anti-Spam Spam?
Date: 4 Oct 1997 07:43:41 GMT
Organization: My other news server has *two* gerbils and a hamster.


On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:29:43 -0700, Anthony Argyriou
<anthony@alphageo.com> spewed:

>> Reply-To: dougb@adram.com
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> All you have to do is scan the UseNet, using key-word searches, and
>> the program will run in automatic mode issuing cancels even while
>> you're asleep.  This is the beginning of the END of spam forever -
>> thanks to CrisLewis, Inc, and their developers.
             ^^^^^^^^^

> call it an important net-wide broadcast announcement. If anyone
> contacts Chris and gets a copy, please check it out and let us
> all know if it does the job.    PAT] 

 ... or, it could be an attempt by some pondscum to try to make the
cancels less effective by dilution (if EVERY post gets cancelled, more
news servers will ignore them), and tarnish Chris Lewis's reputation
at the same time.

The program makes it very impossible to properly cancel legitimate
spam -- there's no way to verify whether or not it's spam, and there's
nearly no way to configure it to put the right identifiers on it to
make them proper spam cancels.  Its intended purpose is to disrupt
Usenet by giving everyone the power to say "I don't like that post"
and then get rid of it ... definately a scary proposition.  -rt


Ryan Tucker <rtucker@ttgcitn.com>     http://www.ttgcitn.com/~rtucker/
UIN: 1976881   finger rtucker@ttgcitn.com for PGP pub key/contact info
there's something quite bizarre i cannot see.. -Mansun/Wide Open Space


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Something else which occurred to me
was a sophisticated person could put together an 'anti-spam' script
which really was just the opposite: a 'pro-spam' script which attempted
to kill everything but spam. I guess someone could put together a
rather obtuse and difficult to understand binary; package  it all up
nicely; tar it and leave it in a directory somewhere. They'd then
announce on the net: "New, guarenteed to work anti-spam software. All
you need to do is come to our web site and get your free copy. You
then take it back to your site, untar it, type 'install' and wait
while it configures itself and starts in operation. It will then
run silently and almost invisibly in the background 24 hours per day
killing spam ..."

Lots of folks would rush to get a copy -- especially since it was
being given free, underwritten by a grant from some major corporation
as a public service to the net -- and they would install it and go off
to bed. The next day the Usenet would be *nothing but* spam, all the
legitimate messages having been cancelled during the night. Really, 
I think all you would need to do is reverse the existing parameters
now in place, i.e. looking for dollar signs, exclamation points and
certain phrases. If those were *not* in the message, then cancel it.

Ho,Ho Ho!  Now what a mess we have. Not content to merely flood
the net with spam, the spammers teach the innocent netizens how to
kill off each other's messages to make more room for the lunchmeat.
Sounds like a plan to me! <g>   PAT]

------------------------------

From: netnut@aol.com (NetNut)
Subject: Re: WorldCom - MCI Merger?
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 04:26:48 GMT
Organization: CampusMCI
Reply-To: netnut@aol.com


On 3 Oct 1997 13:09:10 -0700, Dennis.-.MCI.Stockholder@zippo.com
wrote:

> As a stockholder and former MCI employee, I would be very surprised if
> this ever takes place.

<snip>

Not sure how it can be stopped.  BT is already taking heat from their
institutional shareholders for buying MCI in the first place.  So BT
won't come up with the money to match the WorldCom bid.  The only way
the deal with WorldCom won't take place is if the shareholders vote
against it.

> I do not believe the stockholders would have approved the revised
> BT/MCI merger.  That is why WorldCom has made this move. However, the
> stockholders of both BT and MCI have approved the original merger. My
> guess is that MCI and BT will merge under the orignal, approved terms
> to thwart the Worldcom bid.

<snip>

Won't happen.  In order to go back to the original terms BT will have
to match the WorldCom offer.  Remember: BT cut their offer price
because of the losses MCI will suffer in order to enter the local
market.  When BT revised the bid their holders loved the new terms.
 From the MCI side it stunk for those folks who were in it just for
quick buck, but for long term gain it was the better way to go.  (The
MCI losses would not have hurt Concert since the buying price was
lower.)

> PS: Any MCI stockholder that would vote to merge with MCI under the
> revised plan needs to have their head examined. It stinks if you are a
> stockholder.

Agree and disagree.  For the long term the revised merger is a good
plan.  Short term ... it kinda stinks.  You would not see a return on
the investment for a couple of years.

Bottom line ...

BT will retain their current 20% with MCI, WorldComm will buy the
rest.  This will keep the Concert alignment in tact and give BT what
it needs the most: an America presence.  (AT&T is unattainable and
Sprint is already partially owned by the French and Germans for the
Global One alliance.)  MCI's local losses would greatly diminish since
WorldCom already has local services in 96 markets (compared to about
40 or 50 for MCI).  Nope, its gonna happen.  In two years you probably
won't even hear the name MCI, just Concert and WorldCom.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You think a return on the investment
could happen in two years?  I think that is unrealistic. I suspect
five or six years is more likely. I mean, there is an awful lot of
money involved here, and some very difficult technical details. If
they see a nickle in two years I will be suprised. Like you though,
I am sure it is going to happen, pretty much the way you say.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 07:22:45 -0700
From: ddalton@netscape.com (Doug Dalton)
Organization: Netscape
Subject: Re:Worldcom - MCI merger?


Other side on this merger is that BT has been running a smear campaign
against MCI, BT contends that MCI is a struggling company that made
itself look better than it was actually performing and was providing
misinformation during merger discussions.  I don't know how much of
this is propaganda, I don't think BT is trying to get out of the
merger, but they sure make it seem that way, the UUNet offer must be
stressing BT's protests.


Doug Dalton - Network Manager - Netscape Communications
ddalton@netscape.com - http://people.netscape.com/ddalton


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If past history is any indicator, 
under Bill McGowan's reign at MCI in the company's very early days
there was indeed a concerted effort by MCI to apply a lot of
cosmetics and to use a lot of 'creative accounting' to make things
look good. I do not know about the current management except to say
many of them learned their trade under McGowan's leadership.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Jeremy Rogers <jeremy.rogers@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: WorldCom - MCI Merger?
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 08:10:53 +0100


The message <telecom17.271.7@telecom-digest.org> from
Dennis.-.MCI.Stockholder@zippo.com contains these words:

> PS: Any MCI stockholder that would vote to merge with MCI under the
> revised plan needs to have their head examined. It stinks if you are a
> stockholder.

But the original deal stinks if you are a BT shareholder, so there
seems a problem there. Indeed it is by no means certain that BT
shareholders would approve the revised plan either.

BT shares have risen substantially because it has been seen as 
getting out of a bad deal.


Jez

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 05:33:33 PDT
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: MCI Will Consider WorldCom Offer


Internet Daily says:

/E

** MCI will consider WorldCom offer

MCI Communications Corp. said late Wednesday that the company's board
would meet "in due course" to consider the historic $30 billion buyout
offer from WorldCom Inc. Analysts have been scratching their heads all
day trying to figure out what such an acquisition could mean for the
Internet. Look for a clue in the company's statement following its
deal to acquire CompuServe.  WorldCom chief Bernard Ebbers said the
purchase will "further distance us from all of the traditional
carriers, as we continue to build a different kind of communications
company." 

WorldCom's UUNet is already the world's largest Internet service
provider, according to InfoWorld magazine. MCI has been transporting
Internet traffic since 1987 and has connections in 70 countries.  Such
a deal between MCI and WorldCom "is the worst nightmare come true for
AT&T and the RBOCs (region Bell companies)," said Tom Nolle, president
of network consultant CIMI, in Vorhees, N.J.  "WorldCom is a shark
swimming with goldfish," he told InfoWorld.  "It's showing that it
knows how to put together a 21st century network ... with voice, data,
local and long-distance services."  

All of which, of course, can be moved on the Net. MCI, which has
agreed to be acquired by British Telecommunications, WorldCom shares
fell about 3 percent, shares of AT&T were off half a percent. Among
Internet service providers, PSINet was unchanged, while Netcom was up
4 percent. See DBC Report.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:31:21 -0400
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Major Phone Cut in Mississauga, Ontario


In article <telecom17.268.13@telecom-digest.org>, David Leibold
<aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca> writes:

> Meanwhile, a Toronto radio report today indicated about half of the
> affected phone customers should have their service restored by
> now. The repairs continue ...

A little over 30 years ago, I don't know how many pairs went out when
a big chunk of the old bridge carrying the cables (buried under the
paving) dropped into the river in Des Moines, Iowa; and the cable was
old enough it wasn't color-coded, so *every* pair had to be traced
from each end to be matched with the corresponding pair at the other
end.  I don't recall now how long it took (then) NW Bell to restore
service to everyone.

And as I recall, the way they strung the temporary replacement cable
was to get a dog with a light line to walk across what was left of the
bridge then used that line to pull ever heavier line until they had
something strong enough going across the bridge to pull the cable.


Bruce Wilson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 00:13:32 -0400
From: Jack Decker <jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com>
Subject: Re: Help With Line Noise Please


Tony Ward <tonyeo@black-hole.com> writes:

> I currently have two phone lines, one for voice and one for my modem.
> My question is this: I have line noise on both lines (local radio
> station).  I have installed a noise supressor on both lines (close to
> modem and phone).  I currently have a 28,8 modem (connect at 26,4 or
> 24) and was wondering wether the supressor inhibits modem connection
> speed (actually I can not connect without the supressor being there).
> Is there anything else I can realistically do to stop the interference
> and is it worth my while getting a k56flex modem?  Would it be better
> to put a line supressor where my telco box comes into the house (if so
> how?).

I can tell you what the solution to this problem was in the old "Bell
System" days (having lived most of my early years across the street
from an AM radio transmitter that seemed to come in on just about
everything but the fillings in my teeth!).

The most usual course of action was to use an inexpensive electronic
component called a capacitor... in particular, they used to use
capacitors made of mylar, because these are small and tend to outlast
many other types of capacitors, and also they are better at filtering
out high frequencies.  The usual rating for the capacitor was .02
microfarad at 600 volts.  Typically they would first try installing
one inside the phone, wired so that it would connect across the line
only when the receiver was off-hook.  Since most people don't want to
open up their phones, I'd go with their second choice, which was to
install two of them at the protector block (now the network interface
usually located outside your home) - one connected between each side
of the phone line and ground.

Now, you have to understand that a capacitor works in this application
by acting as a near-dead short for high (radio) frequencies (shorting
them to ground), while still offering a high resistance at lower
(audio) frequencies.  But if the value is too high, it can also start
to affect audio frequencies.  What I am saying is that the value of
the capacitor is important.  The 600 volts isn't as critical; in a
pinch you could probably get by with as low as a 400 volt rating (but
it might fail in a voltage surge situation, shorting out your phone
line) and if you can get a higher voltage than 600 that is great - the
higher the voltage, the more protection against damage by voltage
surges.  But on a voice line, I'd stick pretty close to the .02
microfarad rating.  On a high speed modem line, you might want to see
if you can get by with an even lower value (I'd start with .001
microfarad and if that didn't work I'd try .005, .01, and finally .02
in that order - use the lowest value that seems to eliminate the
interference).  You should be able to find mylar capacitors in these
values at anyplace that sells electronic components, including Radio
Shack.

If you can't find a mylar capacitor with the proper ratings, any other
type of non-polarized capacitor with the proper ratings might work,
but may not attenuate the radio frequencies quite as well.  Don't use
a polarized capacitor (one with + and - markings) in this application.

If a pair of .02 microfarad capacitors doesn't work, it may mean that
you have a problem with a bad connection, either on the wires inside
your home or the wires leading to your home.  Plug a phone into the
network interface outside your home (make sure that phone has very
good cords on it!) and see if you get the interference.  If so, call
the phone company and tell them you need them to check any junctions
or splices in the pair leading to your home, to see if perhaps there
is a poor connection that is acting as a detector for radio signals
(much like the old-time crystal radio sets that your grandparents may
have used).  In any case, check your inside wiring and disconnect any
unused pairs, and clean up all connections (replace any corroded
terminals, etc.).

When things got really rough, the Bell service techs used a filter
that internally consisted of a pair of choke coils, one each in series
with each leg of the phone line.  This replaced the terminal block
that the phone was connected to (remember, this was prior to the days
of modular plugs and jacks).  These were VERY effective in blocking
radio interference (one of the phone guys gave me one to use on an
intercom line between our house and garage, and it knocked out the
radio interference cold where nothing else had worked).  Nowadays, I
suspect that there may be more effective ways than choke coils to
impede radio frequencies, and if you have any friends that are ham
radio operators they could probably tell you about them.  Virtually
any ham radio swap meet will have one or more vendors selling radio
frequency supression devicies; the same devices that are used to keep
RF from moving down an AC power line might also work well enough on a
phone line, but you'd probably have to experiment to find out what
works without knocking out the audio frequencies that you want to
keep.

But in most cases, a pair of capacitors will be adequate.
Interestingly enough, a service tech used essentially this same recipe
to eliminate RF interference (that showed up as diagonal lines) in a
new TV we had purchased ... he connected a capacitor between each leg
of the incoming power line and the chassis ground inside the TV set.
Ah, the joys of living in the shadow of an AM radio station!


Jack


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This very topic of interference from
radio stations was discussed in great detail several years ago in
this Digest. See Volume 9, Issue 208 (Friday, June 23, 1989) for
an article entitled 'Praise the Lord and Pass the RF Filters' for
an account of radio station WYCA in Hammond, Indiana. The folowup
messages continued over the next several issues.   PAT] 

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    Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts (Leonard Erickson)
    Re: Cell One / Albany Charging For Incomplete Calls (William H. Bowen)
    Re: NYS PSC Recommends "Overlay" For New NYC Area Code (Linc Madison)
    Re: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service (Nils Andersson)
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:23:56 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts


In TELECOM Digest, Greg Monti wrote:

> ... The trouble is, they want BA to implement this in a "general way" 
> so the people who have the most common type of unlimited local service
> get the toll alerting correctly.  People who buy the "extended area"
> local calling service (which increases the number of prefixes in your
> local calling area for an additional monthly fee) would still be
> required to dial 11 digits to reach those additional prefixes, even of
> the call is local and free, and even if it is in the same area code as
> the caller.

> *This* is what Bell Atlantic is saying is confusing.  That toll
> alerting is correct for some people, but not for others.  They're
> going through all this trouble to re-implement full toll alerting, but
> it won't be correct for everybody.  BA's position is "why have toll
> alerting at all?"  They want Massachusets to go to 7 digits for within
> area code, 11 digits for outside, both regardless of toll.

> Just another reason why toll alerting through dialing plans is a bad
> idea.  Why not have the recorded sound of a cash register play just
> after the last digit is dialed to indicate toll? ...

Something is going on with the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX consolidation of 
billing functions where customers on 'unlimited' dialing plans are 
suddenly finding themselves improperly billed for calls which should 
be included in their dialing area.  This may be exacerbated by the 
number of new exchanges being created by the new entrant LECs which 
are not always located where the LEC indicates that they are.

(For example, the LEC may tell a subscriber located in "Smallville" 
that his new LEC number is a Smallville local call.  The subscriber 
then puts the number in its ads as a "Smallville number," but when 
customers call it from adjacent Littleburg, they find they are charged 
for a call to some place outside of their calling area which is not 
Smallville.)

Here are two recent examples [edited] illustrating the problem, 
which appears to be widespead:

> From: Sean Marrett <sean@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Bell Atlantic inflating cost to access ISP
> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 12:58:36 -0400
> Organization: NMR Center - Mass. Gen. Hospital

> I recently received a bill from Bell Atlantic that had a nasty 
> surprise: $175.00 for zone 2 calls.  After an hour or so on the 
> phone with them (very polite folks), they adjusted the bill so that 
> the zone 2 charges became zone 1 (other). 

> We had been using the Quincy number for my ISP, which is zone 1 
> (other) for me.  But, all calls to my ISP are carried to their 
> Bedford operations center - (which is zone 2) - by the an LEC which 
> provides their number in Quincy.   Customer service at my ISP assures 
> me that they pay for the forwarding from Quincy - but I'm scared of 
> what my next bill will look like - even if I only use Cambridge, 
> Brookline or Boston access numbers.

> Has anyone had similar experiences with their ISP and/or with Bell
> Atlantic/Nynex?  I'm especially interested in knowing if anyone had 
> this happen to them with a local call.

and:

> From: annbal9@thecia.net (Ann)
> Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic inflating cost to access ISP
> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 21:10:57 GMT
> Organization: TheCIA - Complete Internet Access

> I had called NYNEX back in April about my ISP's listed the numbers, 
> and I made sure they would be within my circle dialing (20 mile 
> radius).  I was using a Weymouth number, I have a Hanover exchange. 
> NYNEX assured me it was.  Everything was fine until my July bill, I 
> guess that's when Bell Atlantic took over.  My phone bill for the 
> period July 16 to August 15 was $194, $140 of it was calls to my ISP 
> at the Weymouth number!  

> When I called on August 24, the woman was very nice, and agreed that 
> the number should have been a free dial for me.  (I guess she later 
> found out she was wrong, but she did adjust my bill.)  She told me I 
> would have to call regarding the August 16-Sept 15 bill because she 
> couldn't adjust it until it had been issued.  She credited me the 
> $140.

> I got the next bill, and called again, got a different woman.  She 
> was definitely NOT nice, and told me that "Bell Atlantic wouldn't 
> continue to give me free phone service."  I explained to her that I 
> changed the number I was using as of August 24, and referred her to 
> what the other woman had told me.  She was so abusive, it was 
> unbelievable, she ended up hanging up on me!  I called back and got 
> a nice young man on the phone, who apologized for her treatment of 
> me.  He saw that I had stopped using the offending number (which 
> Bell Atlantic recognizes as a Boston phone number only).  He gave me 
> the $75.00 credit I was looking for.

> Moral here is to recheck all those numbers your ISP says are local 
> calls, if they have foreign exchanges, in other words exchanges that 
> don't match the other exchanges in the town you are supposed to be 
> calling, call Bell Atlantic to be sure they aren't toll calls for you.

------------------------------

From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:06:49 PST
Organization: Shadownet


Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com> writes:

> The trouble is, they want BA to implement this in a "general way" so
> the people who have the most common type of unlimited local service
> get the toll alerting correctly.  People who buy the "extended area"
> local calling service (which increases the number of prefixes in your
> local calling area for an additional monthly fee) would still be
> required to dial 11 digits to reach those additional prefixes, even of
> the call is local and free, and even if it is in the same area code as
> the caller.

> *This* is what Bell Atlantic is saying is confusing.  That toll
> alerting is correct for some people, but not for others.  They're
> going through all this trouble to re-implement full toll alerting, but
> it won't be correct for everybody.  BA's position is "why have toll
> alerting at all?"  They want Massachusets to go to 7 digits for within
> area code, 11 digits for outside, both regardless of toll.

> Just another reason why toll alerting through dialing plans is a bad
> idea.  Why not have the recorded sound of a cash register play just
> after the last digit is dialed to indicate toll?

Why not do like US West does here in Oregon? We get "full toll
alerting", and it works for basic service *and* for all three (or is
it four?)  levels of "extended area" calling.

It's doable that way and *not* confusing. It may require some extra
programming in the phone switch, but it *is* doable.

I suspect that many of the folks who are against "toll alerting" have
never had to deal with equipment that dials numbers from a directory
maintained elsewhere. With such a setup, you want the default to be
trying to dial 7 digits if the exchange isn't explicitly listed in the
translation table as a "local" prefix. That way you don't inadvertently
make LD calls.

There are other reasons as well. Things like the fact that *nobody* can
keep track of which exchanges are local and which aren't if you live in
a large metro area. The phone book lists are typically *two* years out
of date. And trying to find out where an exchange that doesn't belong
to your LEC is can be *very* frustrating ...


Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
 shadow@krypton.rain.com	<--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com	<--last resort

------------------------------

From: bowenb@best.com (William H. Bowen)
Subject: Re: Cell One / Albany Charging For Incomplete Calls
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:03:43 GMT
Reply-To: bowenb@best.com


Douglas Reuben <dreuben@tiac.net> wrote:

> I recently reviewed a series of bills for our company detailing
> roaming charges in the Cellular One/Albany, NY (00063) system.

> It seems that for ALL of our accounts, EVERY call, even unanswered
> calls of a few seconds, are being billed!

Douglas,

  Boy am I getting a case of deja vu!!! This used to be a really
rampant problem -- sorry to see it still is. 

  In the LA market, both carriers charge for all unanswered calls
(busies, RNA, etc.) at 1/2 the one minute rate (if the one minute rate
is $.50, you'll get charged $.25 for a non-answered call).

  On one hand I can see the carrier's point: you ARE tying up the
system with the call, even if it is not answered. But, on the other
hand, the airtime rates charged in CA are so far out of line that it
more than makes up for the airtime they lose in non-answered calls.

Another "ugly secret" on cellular calls that most carriers don't
admit unless you really press them: on a landline call, you only get
billed time (either local for measured service or toll) once the
called party answers - you don't pay for the time necessary to setup
the call and for the calling party to actually get to their phone and
answer it. On the other hand, on cellular calls, the meter is running
from the instant you hit the "send" button on your cell phone until
you hit the "end" button, INCLUDING call setup and teardown time. As
with charging for un-answered calls, the carrier's argument is that
you have a channel tied up. . 

> We have accounts with a number of "A" carriers from Boston, NYC,
> Connecticut, Vermont, California, New Orleans, and New Jersey. All of
> them reflected both incoming and outgoing calls which no one answered
> and were significantly less than 45 seconds.

Check your CA bills VERY carefully - a word to the wise by someone
that got screwed by LA Cellular regularly!

> Additionally, I was billed a $3 (daily charge) and $.99 on our Boston
> (CO/Boston, 00007 account, not to mention their "Pizza Fund" rip-off
> $4 "roamer administration charge" -- I've already cancelled two
> accounts with them as a result of this outrageous charge and moved
> them over to Bell Atlantic and AT&T), and $.99 on our Bell Atlantic/CT
> 00119 bill, for the privilege of entering "*350" to turn on call
> delivery!

A genuine ripoff if there ever was one.

<<<<Most of posting snipped for brevity>>>>>

> If you roam in the Albany A system, or have in the past few months,
> you may want to check your bill(s) for incomplete/unanswered calls and
> contact your local carrier if you feel you were incorrectly charged.

This doesn't go just for Albany - damn near every month I was with LA
Cellular they tried to "slip one by me" (and I was with them for
nearly five years). On the other hand, I must give GTE Wireless in the
Bay Area credit for having never tried to screw me in the four years
I've been with them.


Regards,

  Bill Bowen
  bowenb@best.com
  Daly City, CA


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say reading all the cellular
phone 'horror stories' which come my way every day makes me really
appreciate Ameritech Cellular. They are not that expensive, they do
not have outrageous roaming fees in any of their five state region,
and I have never had a billing error. Now, I actually get my service
through Frontier Communications, which is a reseller of cellular
service from Ameritech and the good customer service is a function
of Frontier, however when I have had occassion to call Ameritech
direct to clear up some small problem or another, they have been 
very courteous and effecient also.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: NYS PSC Recommends "Overlay" For New NYC Area Code
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:30:43 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom17.269.10@telecom-digest.org>, Danny Burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

> As an FYI, I testified at one of the public hearings, in favor of an
> overlay (as opposed to to a geographic split).

> I added two suggestions to the overlay concept:

>         b) I also requested that instead of using the plebian area
> code of "6-4-6" which is kind of a throw-away, that they adopt the
> "6-9-2" one and overlay it citywide. I felt this would be particularly
> fitting for NYC and might even generate its own demand...

Area code 692 is not assignable for any purpose, and New York City is
not going to get a waiver on that.  *ALL* area codes with '9' as the
middle digit are reserved for future expansion of the numbering plan.
My personal spin on the future expansion is to insert a '9' in the
area code -- for example, 718 becomes 7918 -- and insert a '3' at the
front of the rest of the number (555-0012 becomes 3555-0012) to make a
12-digit number.  For more on that plan, see 
<http://www.best.com/~eureka/telecom/future.html>

Assigning 692 to New York would conflict with, for example, 626 in the
San Gabriel Valley (northeast side of L.A.).  Of course, 626 would've
been a nice choice for MANhattan, but it's too late now.  Anyway, just
think of all the gay chat lines you can have in Manhattan's new M-4-M
area code ...


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com
  >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:46:53 -0400
From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service


In article <telecom17.269.3@telecom-digest.org>, The Old Bear
<oldbear@arctos.com> writes:

> This came to me from Robert Vroman <rvroman@SHELBY.NET> who 
> particiaptes in an Emergency Services Discussion List.  He says  
> original source was the {New York Times} web site on 10/2/97.

> I personally find this a worrysome idea.  It would seem that the 911
> staff should be able to better triage incoming calls.  I wonder what
> will happens when someone calls 3-1-1 because they only have a "small
> fire" or didn't want to call the regular 9-1-1 number because they
> were not absolutely sure they were having a heart attack.  The fact
> that Baltimore was dispatching emergency personnel to non-emergency
> situations sounds more like a staff training problem in their dispatch
> center than any kind of techn

You know, we could really use a FLAT number, one per area code, I
would suggest in the 555 series. Here is the scenario: I am talking to
an elderly relative on the phone. I suddenly hear a set of gasps, and
end up with a silent line. I am on the opposite coast, or out of the
country. If there were a regular number of e.g. the format
212-555-1111, I could call it at the end where the emergency existed,
and get help. I realize that it could not be as narrowly targeted as
local 911, but area codes are getting geographically smaller through
splits all the time.


Any takers?

Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: Thomas Johnson <tjscribe@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Help With Line Noise Please
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 09:59:09 -0400
Organization: Erol's Internet Services


Jonathan I. Kamens wrote:

> My wife and I just bought a house, and in the process of undoing the
> phone-wiring madness the previous tenants inflicted on it, I've
> learned a few important tricks for reducing noise on phone lines (I've
> tried to list them in order from most to least important, as I see
> them):

Thanks for sharing your experience about phone wiring in old houses.  I 
live in an old house, but the wiring may not be the problem.

I tried to download a huge file from Microsoft yesterday.  I know that
signals are sent from the originator (in this case New York, Washington,
D.C. and Redmond, Cal. were all involved at one point or another) to the
recipient via available computers used as relay stations, and the route
information travels may change as better avenues become available.  Each
computer is responsible for its own segment of the package.  If it drops
it in transmission, a signal is sent back to the originator and the
segment is resent.

 From watching the numbers (indicating progress) on my screen go up
upand down, it occurred that lines were being dropped quite frequently, 
and the delivery was never going to be completed.  After three or four
hours and three restarts, I decided to save my electricity.

The problem could be caused by heavy traffic on Saturday and Saturday
night (although I have experienced the same thing on week nights with
smaller packages) or it could be that the wiring in the local region is
not upgraded as much as need be.  Do you have any ideas on this?

Thanks for any advice.

------------------------------

From: John David Galt <jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com>
Subject: Re: 206/425/253 Split, Usual Problems
Date: 5 Oct 1997 06:50:58 GMT
Organization: Sacratomato Cynics


Tad Cook <tad@ssc.com> quotes his paper as saying:

> Puget Sound Business Are Frustrated with Temperamental New Area Codes

> By Cynthia Flash, The News Tribune, Tacoma, Wash.
> Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

> TACOMA, Wash.--Oct. 3--Time is running out to fix any bugs associated with
> the Puget Sound's new 253 and 425 area codes.

> And with just six weeks before the new codes become the only option around,
> some glitches do still exist.

> The folks at Information Technologies Corp. in Puyallup report that some of
> their customers from around the United States still can't get through using
> 253.

> "If you use 253, you may or may not get your calls. If you use 206, you may
> or may not get your calls," said a frustrated employee of the company,
> which offers courses on such topics as how to collect judicial judgments
> and child support.

A modest proposal: Telco switches should be programmed to poll each
other, like machines on the Internet do.  I don't see that it would be
any great load on the network if each switch polled one 'upstream'
neighbor (or a central source if 'upstream' isn't a meaningful term)
once a week or even once a month to retrieve any new area codes and
prefixes.  Better yet, when a customer dials one the switch doesn't
know about, have it poll a 'name server' immediately.  This would
eliminate the problem totally.

(To eliminate the problem of 'spoofing' as was done to the Net earlier
this year, I wouldn't give this 'DNS' full authority to edit the
tables in your local switch -- only to provide _new_ area codes and
prefixes.)


John David Galt

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 09:15:18 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: Re: Toll Free Domains


Greg, it's like real estate.  If every time someone wanted a house, a
new one had to be built because no one was allowed to sell an existing
one, we'd all be pushed into the ocean by now.

However, just as we build taller buildings - we will probably
inevitably go to eight digits somewhere down the road, in which
grandfathering the seven digit 800's would "shelve" a mere drop in the
bucket.


Judith


   800/888           ICB TOLL FREE NEWS           800/888
 ...today's regulatory news for tomorrow's marketing decisions.
   TRY US FREE FOR 15 DAYS !!!    http://icbtollfree.com
(ph) 212 684-7210.  (fx) 212 684-2714. 1 800 THE EXPERT.
ICB Headlines Autosponder:   mailto:headlines@icbtollfree.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:59:34 EDT
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)
Subject: Thanks for the Number


My thanks go to the two or three dozen of you who wrote me in response
to my request for the modem number at NAVOBS. 


PAT

------------------------------

From: baldwin@netcom.com (J.D. Baldwin)
Subject: Re: The Even Hand of the Law
Organization: Revealed on a need-to-know basis.
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:01:13 GMT


In article <telecom17.269.8@telecom-digest.org>, The Old Bear
<oldbear@arctos.com> wrote:

> From what I can tell from this wire-service story, it looks like 
> the court made the correct legal decision -- my personal feelings 
> notwithstanding.

Her personal feelings notwithstanding, as well!  As your article
points out, the judge herself denounced Cyberpromo's business
practices.

In fact, the ruling could have been much, much worse and still been
within the bounds of the law.  The AGIS agreement with Cyberpromo
requires AGIS to give 30 days' notice before termination, and all she
did was say that Cyberpromo had to get their service back until
Oct. 16th.  Note that this retroactively counts the initial disconnect
as the commencement of "notice," and gives Spamford no credit
whatsoever for the days he's already lost.

There's been a lot of loose talk about "spamming" or otherwise 
harassing this judge.  Leave her alone, or congratulate and thank her.
She did the right thing, and then some.  This decision is a major
victory for the anti-spammers, and quite unlikely to be appealed,
since it grants Spamford pretty much the relief he asked for.

Spamford was also required to post a $12,500 bond before being
reconnected.  As of noon EDT on Friday, October 3:

traceroute to ns7.cyberpromo.com (205.199.2.250), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.100.81.254 (192.100.81.254)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
 2  sjx-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.1.29)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 3  h2-0-1-mae-west.netcom.net (163.179.233.214)  10 ms  7 ms  6 ms
 4  mae-west.agis.net (198.32.136.21)  15 ms  18 ms  15 ms
 5  * * *
 6  * * *

 ... and so forth.

> I place more blame on AGIS and its counsel for not having prepared and
> negotiated a document with better protection of AGIS under these
> circumstances.

Supposedly, AGIS requires that its spammers adhere to the IEMMC
guidelines.  It is trivially demonstrable that Spamford is not living
up to the letter of these guidelines in any way whatsoever, nor has he
made the slightest bit of effort to ensure that his customers do so.
Ergo, Cyberpromo is in breach, QED.  To my knowledge (mostly gleaned
from news accounts posted and summarized in nana.*), AGIS did not even
attempt to make this argument.  Where *did* they get their legal
counsel?


 From the catapult of J.D. Baldwin  |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_    Finger baldwin@netcom.com |+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  for PGP public    |+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /         key information.  |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 12:57:59 -0700
From: Babu Mengelepouti <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>
Reply-To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
Organization: US Secret Service
Subject: Last laugh!  Cyberpromo Aquires MCI


Dateline-New York:

Trading in MCI was temporarily halted today when a public announcement
that Cyber Promotions had beaten out competition from Worldcomm and
British Telecom to acquire MCI.

CP reportedly won the bidding war by offering 650 billion shares in
Cyber Promotions stock and a dozen cases of SPAM to each member of
MCI's board.  Wall Street was taken completely offguard by this
development although it has been rumoured on the street that CP's
president has been looking for a means to secure sufficient
communication capacity to accomodate the corporation's present and
future requirements.

The merger will see the creation of SpaMCI.  CP's president, contacted
at company headquarters in Papua New Guinea, had no comment.

Cyber promotions can be contacted at it's email address:
Spamford@lawsuit.net

------------------------------

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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 5 Oct 97 22:32:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 274

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Looking For Specialized Voicemail System; PLEASE Respond! (Chris Boone)
    Combining Analog Lines (Cameron Smith)
    Phone Stuff on TV (Leonard Erickson)
    Help Me Please! (Shane Devine)
    Bits Error After Lightning (Felix Leung)
    Toshiba Phone Help Needed (Scott Brader)
    Intro to Data Communications Wanted (Bruce W. Mohler)
    CDMA PCS in Canada (user@msn.com)
    Voice Mail Spam (J.D. Baldwin)
    What Least Expensive No-Surcharge Company/Plan? (Jack Decker)
    Re: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice (Nils Andersson)
    Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change (Patrick Miller)
    Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change (Roger Fajman)

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From: Christopher W. Boone <cboone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Looking For Specialized Voicemail System; PLEASE Respond!
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 12:41:07 -0500
Organization: The Walt Disney Company / ABC Radio Networks Engineering
Reply-To: cboone@earthlink.net


Have some questions that need answering fast! If you can help, PLEASE
reply to my email above ASAP!  (Remove the NOSPAM. from the address!)

I am looking for a multiport (8-16) voicemail system with the following
requirments:

1) MUST connect straight to CO trunks with Gnd or Loop start operation
(must see CPC if loop start).

2) MUST have HIGH QUALITY audio ... NOT sound grainy like Active Voice
and others do ... (ROLM Phonemail seems to have the best audio in
this respect but it does not meet other requirements but I am using it
as audio standard).

3) PREFERABLY have GUI/LAN interface so msgs can be edited and
listened to via remote PC ... including uploading greetings/prompts to
the system and downloading msgs from the system in WAV or similar form

4) MUST have CALL PROCESSING mailboxes (aka: MENU BOXES, etc)
so the caller can choose a topic or subject with a single DTMF
command, and then leave a msg at the end of the greeting ...
NO extn answering here but could be used for that later ... but
NOT main requirement.

5) MUST be able for system user to record ALL greetings, etc heard by
caller (not the system prompts heard by system user but those such as
"mailbox full" etc.) 

6) MUST be able to disable help features (such as * or # keys) so
once caller is into a CP Box, they are committed to leaving a msg and
then the system will hang up, allowing other callers access.

7) SHOULD use NON proprietary equipment (ROLM ... eeerr Siemens
 ... charges $15,000 !!! for a HD.....cmon people, 4 GIG HDs dont cost
that much!)  I want something I can maintain or upgrade inexpensively.

8) HAVE 24 hr service available for this system ... I have a LOAD
of calls that it will handle and cannot afford for it to be down.
(NO!!! It does NOT answer extns, etc ... nor does it tie to a switch!)

Have I left anything out?? Possibly ... but these are the main
questions.

NOW, I need an answer by Monday 10-6, 10am CT ... IF you are a dealer
in such items and can deliver what I want above, I WILL BUY!!!! BUT NO
BS !!!  (If you are not a dealer, etc but do have a GOOD suggestion,
please get with me asap!)

I don't want crappy audio; I want CLEAN quality audio, not this grainy
stuff I have been hearing on Active Voice, Amanda, etc.  If yours
cannot do what I want, DONT BOTHER CALLING ME AND WASTING my time (and
yours!). If you CAN deliver the above, you OWE it to yourself to call
me and let me listen to the system. I have a budgeting meeting at 10am
CT Monday, so its on the line. I have some systems in consideration;
none really meet what I want and searching the WEB has been
frustrating, so here's your chance.

My number is 972-448-3366 DID. Call it asap.

Thanks for your input in advance.


Chris

IF you wish to reply via email, take OUT the NOSPAM. in the address!
BUT reply asap. I will check my email here one last time @ 8am CT
Monday. DONT DELAY!!!!


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For all the ASAP demands made by Chris,
I think he must be unaware of the mechanics of preparing a digest and
getting messages out. His message arrived here Sunday afternoon and
I put it in the first available issue. Still, I do not know how many
people will see it in time.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:35:18 -0700
From: Cameron Smith <ccsmith@pinc.com>
Subject: Combining Analog Lines
Organization: Cutting Edge Technology Services


I live in a rural area where digital service is all but unavailable.
We have, here on-island, an ISP who brings in a T-1 signal. In order
to get that T-1 (or any fraction thereof) to my home, I would have to
pay the telco a $1400 setup fee and over $1200 per month! Plus, of
course, the connection fee to the ISP.

The ISP, however, is willing to let me co-locate a machine on his
premises.  What I can do is set up a standard analog line from that
machine to my home with a couple of 56K modems. So far so good.

What I *want* to do, however, is set up *two* analog lines with 56k
modems and combine or concentrate them somehow. Something like this:

                                                    --> 56K modem <-->
Analog Line
                                                   /
-T1--> ISP <--Ethernet--> My Comp. <--> device <--<
                           @ ISP                   \
                                                    --> 56K modem <-->
Analog Line


                      Analog Line <--> 56K modem <--
                                                    \
                                                     >--> device <--> My
Computer
                                                    /                  @
home
                      Analog Line <--> 56K modem <--


So what is the "device" that I need and what are some of the brand
names?

Any help or suggestions would be most welcome. Please (also) reply via
e-mail.


Cameron Smith
Cutting Edge Technology Services
ccsmith@pinc.com
http://www.pinc.com/~ccsmith

------------------------------

From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Phone Stuff on TV
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 22:24:55 PST
Organization: Shadownet


It's interesting how much stuff they get right (and wrong!) in TV
shows. Especially which bits.

Just tonight on Millenium, Frank Black has been getting mysterious
calls. Phone rings, he answers, there's silence, he tries to get a
response, they hang up.

So we see some nerdly type messing with all sorts of wires ... to
install a Caller-ID unit! Then just after Frank writes the check (for
$85!), he gets a mystery call. And (naturally) the unit says
"Anonymous Caller". Frank snatches back the check (nice touch!)

The nerdly type then proceeds to sell Frank a gizmo that (supposedly)
can override the blocking (yeah, right). And it works when they test
it. Of course, it doesn't work with the mystery call.

No mention is made of the *?? code that records the info at the phone
company office. Nor is any mention made of trying to get the phone
company to help.

On several shows, I've seen them stating that you can only get a
general area when trying to trace a cell phone (and some even have
things relatively correct when using mobile tracking units to try to
refine that position). And they have it being appropriately easy to
get the number of the cell phone that is making the call. But every
single one of the shows fails to note that a cell phone merely has to
be *on* to be trackable. And they can't even use the excuse that the
bad guy turned off the phone, because on many of them, they call him
back!

I really, *really* wish that at least *one* show would get it right.
Either have them catch a bad guy because he didn't turn the phone off
after making his call, or have them tracking him after the call and
*then* have them frustrated at the last instant as he turns off the
phone (or better yet, have them tracking a kidnapped "good guy" and
have his battery run down just as they are about to pinpoint his
location)

That would not only be suspenseful, but it'd let them feel good about
showing how smart they were. And unllike the current situation, they
wouldn't *actually* be showing how *stupid* they are... :-)


Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
 shadow@krypton.rain.com	<--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com	<--last resort


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Of all the things to crab and complain
about! Next thing I know you are going to be sending a message here
asking why it is newspaper reporters never can get their details right
when writing about the internet or telephone networks. Then before
long the complaints will start coming in about all the very ignorant
FBI/local law enforcement officers who know as little about computers
and the net as I know about brain surgery who assume every time they
see someone online the person must be uploading or downloading a
kiddie porn picture or having a chat with a twelve year old boy. 
Where would we get our laughs every day if it were not for the very
ignorant television writers/producers, newspaper 'reporters' (in 
actual practice, frequently fiction writers) and Keystone Cops who
control our reading/viewing habits and our lives?  Television is not
quite as bad this year as it was last year -- i.e. the year of the
'the net is mostly kiddie porn and devil worshippers' and even the
print media has decided now and then to actually investigate what
they print but there is still a long way to go. Most police officers
are still ignorant as ignorant can be where the net is concerned,
but if they are unwilling to learn then maybe some higher courts will
slap the nonsense out of them. I wish I had seen the show you referred
to; I am sure it would all have been a jolly-good laugh; and you don't
see me laughing or inserting any smileys now do you ...  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 11:52:25 -0400
From: Devine <shade39@cyberzone.net>
Subject: Help Me Please!
Organization: cyberzone.net


I recently purchased a computer for use at school (Dell Dimensions
H233, 64mb, 512Kcache, .....). With this computer I got a 56Kx2 US
Robotics modem. I just signed up with a server in the area who offers
56Kx2 connections. So far, I have only been able to connect at speeds
up to 28.8Kbps, usually only 24Kbps. The telecom person on campus told
me that all phone lines are 56K capable so that's "not the problem". 

What I need to know is what the problem could be. I was reading
another message posted here and that person mentioned that they get
interference from a radio station. There is a large radio tower on top
of my dorm building.  Could this be the problem? Could it also be the
way the telephone lines are wired in the building? If anyone knows of
an existing problem, possible problem, or a possible solution, please
email me at, shade39@cyberzone.net. Thanks!


Shane

------------------------------

From: Felix Leung <felixleung@technologist.com>
Subject: Bits Error After Lightning
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:07:03 -0500
Organization: University of Winnipeg


Hi, I got the answer for the following question, but I am not sure how
should I handle the 0.2 bits error, should I just leave the answer as
25.2 or I should use 26bits?

If the speed of transmission on a line is 7200bps and that line is hit
by lighting that causes an impluse distortion of 3.5 milliseconds,
what is the max. number of bits that could be in error?

The term bit rate representing the number of bits per second.  7200
bits per sec. * .0035 sec. = 25.2 bits could be in error.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Felix

------------------------------

From: Scott Brader <sbrader@usavgroup.com>
Subject: Toshiba Phone Help Needed
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 20:09:53 -0500
Organization: Redwood Interactive: A division of USAV Communications Group
Reply-To: sbrader@usavgroup.com


We've recently added two HSTU's to our Toshiba Strata XXe key phone
system. (I know, we're in the dark ages!) The system does not
recognize the two new cards. Is there a setup routine or dip switch
change we have to do to get the system to recognize the new cards?

Thanks for your help. 


Scott Brader <sbrader@usavgroup.com>
Redwood Interactive
A division of USAV Communications Group
5485 S. Westridge Drive
PO Box 510620
New Berlin, Wisconsin 53151
Phone: 414.814.2000
Fax: 414.814.2006

------------------------------

From: Bruce W. Mohler <bmohler@fv.com>
Subject: Intro to Data Communications
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:18:39 -0700
Organization: A News Reader at ATMNet


Dear c.d.t,

Are there any good books that provide an introduction to the realm of
data communications or bookstores that specialize in books of this
type?

[I checked through this newsgroups and searched for a dcom FAQ before
posting this.]

Thanks, in advance.


Bruce W. Mohler
bmohler@fv.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You really should investigate the
mail order book service operated by Harry Newton of {Teleconect
Magazine}. His service is called Telecom Library and it is located
in New York City. Harry is a regular reader of this Digest and
he'll probably see your message. Maybe he will reply with 
particulars on how to obtain a catalog, etc.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: user@msn.com
Subject: CDMA PCS in Canada
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:41:13 -0700
Organization: Alternate Access Inc.


Hello to all!

Can some one tell me whether there is any differences in the PCS1900
standards used in Canada for CDMA compared to US? Do they use IS-95
(J-STD-008) without modification? Any CTC mandates that would make the
Canadian CDMA operation/ products different than in US?

I appreciate your input; thanks in advance.


Shawn in California

------------------------------

From: baldwin@netcom.com (J.D. Baldwin)
Subject: Voice Mail Spam
Organization: Revealed on a need-to-know basis.
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:11:59 GMT


We all get e-mail spam.  I'm hardly alone there.

I am, however, the only one I know who's received PAGER spam.  A few
months back, my text pager came alive with several ads purportedly for
MEN'S HEALTH magazine.  I called the 800-# to raise hell, and got an
ad for some sort of sex chat instead.  Grrrrrrr.

Last night, this was exceeded by Ameritech, which my fellow
midwesterners know is The Most Evil Corporation In The History Of The
World.  My phone service with Ameritech includes phone company hosted
voice mail (so I can get messages during busy signals on what is
primarily a data line).  Last night, when checking my messages, there
was a two-minute "bulletin" from Ameritech.  I punched in the code to
listen to it (I don't think there was a way around it) and was treated
to an ad for some sort of "sweepstakes" Ameritech wanted me to enter
by calling some 800-#.

WHAT THE HELL?!?

I plan to call Ameritech to complain, loudly, about this practice, but
I thought I'd mention it here to see whether:

    a) Anyone else has experienced this;
    b) There is any way to stop this (that I should know about
       before calling)?


 From the catapult of J.D. Baldwin  |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_    Finger baldwin@netcom.com |+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  for PGP public    |+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /         key information.  |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 23:23:18 -0400
From: Jack Decker <jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com>
Subject: What Least Expensive No-Surcharge Company/Plan?


I very rarely make toll calls on my main home line, and for years I
have used MCI and their Friends & Family plan.  My mother is on the
same plan and use it to call her relatives out-of-state.  I was
therefore quite surprised (and more than a little disappointed) to
read that although they now offer their much-touted 5 cent Sundays,
they have apparently INCREASED their rates at all other times,
including Saturdays (see Eli Mantel's page at
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5395/pr970907.html for particulars
 -- that is where I found out about this increase).

MCI has plans other than Friends and Family, but according to an MCI
rep that I spoke to today, there are none available to me that do not
have a monthly fee or minimum associated with them.  I'm also aware
that if you place a "casual" call through certain other carriers using
a 10(1X)XXX code, a surcharge or monthly minimum applies.  What I am
wondering is, what is the least expensive way to place an occasional
call (usually between one and three minutes in length) WITHOUT
incurring any monthly minimums or surcharges?

There's one interesting aspect of this.  In Michigan, we have
competition for intraLATA toll, and my line is NOT presubscribed to
the local phone company (which in my case happens to be GTE) for
intraLATA toll.  Since virtually every toll call I have made from my
home line in recent months has been within my home LATA, I *would*
just use GTE for those calls, BUT it seems that there is no way to
access them using a 10(1X)XXX code -- at least not any way that any of
their reps seem to know about.  If you call various GTE numbers and
ask around enough, they will give you the code for whoever is handling
GTE's interLATA toll (I forget which carrier is doing that, but
basically GTE has an arrangement with one of the major carriers [not
one of the "big 3", though] to handle their interLATA toll).  But that
is not the same access that one would get for intraLATA toll (for
example, dialing the code they give plus "0" gets you the IXC's
operator, not a GTE operator).

If any GTE switch technicians happen to read this and know the
*correct* code to use to place an intraLATA toll call using GTE's
facilities (and NOT those of the IXC they contract with for interLATA
toll), I'd appreciate it if you'd send me the code via e-mail.
Alternately, I'd like to know about any carrier that has resonable
per-minute rates and that will still allow you to place "casual" calls
(via a 10(1X)XXX code) without imposing any surcharge or monthly
minimum.  If you reply, please be sure to edit out the "bogus" part of
my return e-mail address (I get FAR too much "spam" as it is!).


Thanks,

Jack

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:46:54 -0400
From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice


In article <telecom17.269.6@telecom-digest.org>, Telecom@Eureka.vip.
best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison) writes:

> Of course, I think that the root of the problem is that there seems to
> have been no coherent attempt at a public education campaign for 888.
> Too many phone books still refer to 800 without mentioning 888.

Nobody except us phone nuts actually READ a phone book. I agree about
public education, and you are technically correct that 888 should be
in the phone book, but that is the least important place to put it.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: pmiller@nyx.net (Patrick Miller)
Subject: Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change
Date: 4 Oct 1997 22:56:12 -0600
Organization: Nyx.net, free public access to the Internet


One thing to note that was said in the previous message is that more
leeway should be made for dialing numbers.

1. Always allow 10 digit dialing (why should a kid who only knows the 7
digit number not be able to call home when out of the area?)

2. Always allow *s0 to disable call waiting (I should be able to not
have to worry about whether the line I am plugging my computer into
has call waiting, after all if I want to be kicked off I can uncheck
the disable CW box.)

Those are the main two problems I have which will become moot once all
areas require 10 digit dialing, or digital lines remove now what is
connected to the line (and allow voice and data simultaneously.)


Pat Miller--Communications Consult./ *HUG*   C-ya Soon
http://www.nyx.net/~pmiller       /pmiller@nyx.net
finger pmiller@nox.nyx.net       | 816-968-968-5 (you-you5)
full/expanded info on web/finger |
---------------------------------+Heartland TEC #145

------------------------------

From: Roger Fajman <RAF@CU.NIH.GOV>
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 12:07:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Security Alarm Problem due to Area Code Change


>> That's a rather odd position for Bell Atlantic to take, since we've
>> had 10 digit dialing for local calls for some time now in the
>> Washington, DC area, which is Bell Atlantic territory.

> Well, Bell Atlantic inherited that system when they acquired C&P
> Telephone.  Changing it to whatever Bell Atlantic thinks is not
> confusing would have been confusing =)

You have your timing of events mixed up.  C&P Telephone was one of the
Bell Operating Companies that became part of the original Bell
Atlantic when it was formed in 1984.  At that time in the Washington,
DC area we had 7 digit dialing for local calls (even across area
codes) and 10 digit dialing for long distance calls.  Later, 1+10
digits for long distance calls was introduced.  After that, 10 digit
dialing for local calls across area codes became mandatory.  Most
recently, 10 digit dialing for local calls within the same area code
became mandatory in Maryland (but not in DC or Virginia).

After all of that, the merger of Bell Atlantic and NYNEX was
finalized, with the merged company being called Bell Atlantic.  I
believe that along with NYNEX came other ideas about what dialing
plans are confusing.  The particular area that the statement was
referring to was NYNEX territory.

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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    What's up With Dixon, California? (Linc Madison)
    101-XXXX for Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Re: The Even Hand of the Law (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Re: Combining Analog Lines (Christopher W. Boone)
    Re: Combining Analog Lines (admin@honoluluairport.com)
    Re: Voice Mail Spam (Jim Youll)
    Re: Voice Mail Spam (Mark W. Schumann)
    Re: Bits Error After Lightning (Brett Frankenberger)
    Re: Worldcom - MCI Merger? (Jason Clifford)

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: What's up With Dixon, California?
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 04:40:25 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


The community of Dixon, California, on Interstate 80 between San Francisco
and Sacramento, has just been realigned from area code 916 into area code
707.  The city and county leaders requested this realignment rather than
be split into area code 530.

However, there are two questions I've been having trouble answering:

(1) Is there permissive dialing for the change?  The early information
seemed to indicate a splash cut.

(2) Will Dixon also move from the Sacramento LATA (the southern half of
the current 916) into the San Francisco LATA (all of 415, 650, 510,
and 707, plus northern 408)?  Such a move would be more consistent with
the existing LATA boundaries, but I've seen no announcement addressing
the question.

This realignment means that, for the first time in decades, all the
rate centers in Solano County are in the same area code.  However, if
the LATA line didn't shift, it means that it is now possible to dial
inter-LATA toll calls within area code 707, just by dialing 7 digits.

In an attempt to answer these questions, I tried a small experiment.
I dialed 0-707-678-xxxx and 0-707-693-xxxx, and also tried the same
calls using area code 916.  My preassigned carrier for intra-LATA calls
is Pacific Bell; for inter-LATA calls, Sprint.  Thus, I should get a
PacBell bong if I'm calling within the S.F. LATA, but a Sprint bong if
I'm calling to the Sac'to LATA.  Also, the call should immediately route
to intercept if the prefix is invalid, at least if it's in my own LATA.

All of the calls went through to a Sprint bong, using either 707 or
916.  None went to intercept, and none went to a PacBell bong.  I tried
the number of a business (so as not to wake anyone at 4:30 a.m.!) on 1+
and it rang through on both 707 and 916, so it appears that there *is*
permissive dialing, at least "de facto."

Of course, the other question regarding permissive dialing is for calls
originating in Dixon.  I would guess that those calls were splash-cut,
that as of October 4th, all calls from Dixon dialed with just 7 digits
are assumed to be in area code 707.  (All points in 707 outside Dixon
are toll calls, but it is not necessary to dial 1+NPA for HNPA tolls
in California.  There are prefix conflicts between 707 and 916, so it is
not possible to have permissive dialing out of Dixon.)  Maybe if I have
a free afternoon some time soon, I'll take a little "field trip" and
find out ...


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com
  >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 10:04:16 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll


In "What Least Expensive No-Surcharge Company/Plan?", Jack Decker
<jack@novagate.NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> In Michigan, we have competition for intraLATA toll, and my line is
> NOT presubscribed to the local phone company (which in my case
> happens to be GTE) for intraLATA toll.  Since virtually every toll
> call I have made from my home line in recent months has been within
> my home LATA, I *would* just use GTE for those calls, BUT it seems
> that there is no way to access them using a 10(1X)XXX code --
> at least not any way that any of their reps seem to know about.
> If you call various GTE numbers and ask around enough, they will
> give you the code for whoever is handling GTE's interLATA toll (I
> forget which carrier is doing that, but basically GTE has an
> arrangement with one of the major carriers [not one of the "big 3",
> though] to handle their interLATA toll).  But that is not the same
> access that one would get for intraLATA toll (for example, dialing
> the code they give plus "0" gets you the IXC's operator, not a GTE
> operator).

> If any GTE switch technicians happen to read this and know the
> *correct* code to use to place an intraLATA toll call using GTE's
> facilities (and NOT those of the IXC they contract with for
> interLATA toll), I'd appreciate it if you'd send me the code via
> e-mail.

GTE doesn't have any LATAs of their own in the state of Michigan. All
LATAs in Michigan are considered to be Ameritech (formerly Michigan
Bell). 'Traditional' Independent telcos which provide service within
a BOC LATA have toll-homings to the BOC tandem switch in that LATA
for intra-LATA toll calls. Some independents do have their own toll
or tandem switch, if that independent has a large number of exchanges
within a small region in the same LATA, but not all of the traffic
between the exchanges is local.

Ameritech does have some 101-XXXX codes, which _might_ happen to be
dialable for intra-LATA calls from those GTE central offices. The
following 101-XXXX+ codes are assigned to Ameritech, according to the
FCC's latest list of US/NANP numbering/dialing information:

101-5475+, 101-5606+, 101-6123+; and for Ameritech's "Long-Distance"
(future inTER-LATA toll? Ameritech's Cellular inTER-LATA toll?) there
is 101-0113+ (10-113+ in the older/shorter, soon to be obsolete format).

_IF_ GTE has _properly_ loaded (one of) Ameritech's fg.D "CIC-codes"
(101-XXXX+) into your local GTE central-office switch translations,
then you 'should' have your intra-LATA toll calls properly routed via
Ameritech's toll/tandem switch for intra-LATA toll calls, and you
'should' be properly billed at Ameritech/GTE (Michigan) tariffed rates.

BTW, note that I qualify 'if', 'properly' and 'should'. What 'should'
happen doesn't always work that way. Last month, two new NPA codes
took effect in permissive dialing (new NPA 228 for the Mississippi
Gulfcoast area, splitting from NPA 601; new NPA 931 for central
Tennessee except Nashville metro, splitting from NPA 615). For a few
days into permissive dialing, if I dialed 1-228-nxx-xxxx for a valid
Mississippi Gulfcoast number, or 1-931-nxx-xxxx for a valid number in
central Tennessee (except Nashville metro), my own BellSouth local
exchange would properly take the complete ten-digits. But when they
sent the call to the AT&T toll switch in New Orleans (the calls were
inTER-LATA, and AT&T is my primary inTER-LATA carrier), I received a
recording from AT&T: "You call did not go through. Please try your
call again. 060-T". Usually, if the AT&T toll switch doesn't have the
new area code's digits in _their_ switch translations, the recording
would state: "Your call cannot be completed as dialed ... 060-T".

The 'rejection' recording came from AT&T, and _not_ BellSouth. And my
local BellSouth central office _properly_ let me dial all ten-digits!
But when I called AT&T's repair department, they kept telling me that
I was experiencing a BellSouth problem. The AT&T tech/rep (who was in
Atlanta) even 3-way'd me to a remote test line for him to dial-thru
the AT&T New Orleans toll switch. _HIS_ calls to NPA 228 and NPA 931
went through! He then told me to try placing the calls with 10-288+
or 101-0288+. Since AT&T is my primary inTER-LATA carrier, this would
be a redundant way to dial the call, but _not_ prohibited by my local
switch, thus I thought I would get the _same_ "Your call did not go
through ... 060-T" recording, when the call reached the AT&T toll
switch in downtown New Orleans.

However, my call properly routed!?!? So it might just have been a
BellSouth problem after all! Maybe my local central office _allowed_
me to dial NPAs 228 and 931 in a full ten-digit format, but when I
didn't indicate the call with 10[10]288+, BellSouth was sending the
wrong number of digits or some other garbled information to AT&T's
switch, yet when I did use 10[10]288+ before 1+ calls to 228 and 931,
BellSouth simply sent the dialed digits 228-nxx-xxxx and 931-nxx-xxxx
to AT&T with no problems.

Please let us know whatever happens when you try to dial your
inTRA-LATA toll calls using Ameritech's 101-XXXX+ codes.


NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Class-5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-)
NWORLAIYCM1 (BellSouth-Mobility Hughes-GMH-2000 Cellular-MTSO NOL)
NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 fg-B/C/D Accss-Tandem "Main" 504+)
NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:Opr-Srvcs-Tandem "Main" 504+053+)
NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+)
JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121)

MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 00:24:03 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Re: The Even Hand of the Law


baldwin@netcom.com (J.D. Baldwin) writes:

> The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com> wrote:

>> From what I can tell from this wire-service story, it looks like 
>> the court made the correct legal decision -- my personal feelings 
>> notwithstanding.

> Her personal feelings notwithstanding, as well!  As your article
> points out, the judge herself denounced Cyberpromo's business
> practices ... 

> There's been a lot of loose talk about "spamming" or otherwise 
> harassing this judge.  Leave her alone, or congratulate and thank her.
> She did the right thing, and then some.  This decision is a major
> victory for the anti-spammers ...

>> I place more blame on AGIS and its counsel for not having prepared and
>> negotiated a document with better protection of AGIS under these
>> circumstances.

> Supposedly, AGIS requires that its spammers adhere to the IEMMC
> guidelines.  It is trivially demonstrable that Spamford is not living
> up to the letter of these guidelines in any way whatsoever, nor has he
> made the slightest bit of effort to ensure that his customers do so.
> Ergo, Cyberpromo is in breach, QED.

Unfortunately, one party being in default of one provision of a
contract does not automatically nullify the contract.  Most contacts
contain various remedies which relate to different kind of defaults by
the parties.

While I am not a lawyer, I have spent many years dealing with complex 
commercial real estate leases and contracts.  Interestingly, the 
hard-learned lessons of "real space" are quite applicable to 
cyberspace.  And I am constantly amazed to see how few attorneys have 
thought through the complex issues involved.

Generally speaking, our legal system abhors forfeitures.  When someone 
defaults on the terms of a contract, there usually is a mechanism 
specified for the aggrieved party to put the other party on notice and 
to have an opportunity to cure the default.  Naturally, there 
may be penalties involved, and sometimes there are additional provisions 
to prevent repetitive bad faith default-cure, default-cure cycles.

Under some circumstances, a default may be so egregious as to cause 
further damage if allowed to continue.  The AGIS problems of "ping 
attacks" would probably be considered such -- if one could demonstrate 
that Cyberpromo's wanton actions predictably caused these attacks.

Although I am adamantly anti-spam, one thing about all of this which 
concerns me is that these 'denial of service' attacks can be mounted 
by anyone, for any reason.  And just as they can harm unrelated 
third-parties who may be customers of a company like AGIS, they can
also inflict harm on unrelated third-parties of any network provider 
who has the misfortune of having a customer who comes under attack 
for whatever reason.

Let me draw a comparison to the recent situation in Atlanta where the 
FBI leaked information about its investigation of Richard Jewel, the 
security guard who discovered the bomb in Olympic Park.  For several 
weeks, television and news crews kept Mr. Jewel's apartment complex 
under 24-hour siege with video trucks and bright lights.  Certainly, 
this could not have been pleasant for other tenants who just happened 
to be living in the complex.  Possibly, some of those tenants decided 
to move out or to withhold rent because their units had become all but 
unlivable.  (I do not know if any tenants really did so.)  Certainly, 
the landlord would be seriously damaged under such a scenario and 
might even be forced to default on his mortgage if his cash flow were 
sufficiently impaired.  Should this give him a right to evict Mr. Jewel 
as a cause of the disturbance?

I do not wish to portray AGIS as naive and innocent, but I am 
concerned that righteous vigilantism is only a short step from anyone 
with a computer 'bringing down' any network provider who sells services 
to someone with whom they take exception.

It is for this reason that I strongly believe that we need a rule of 
law dealing with such things as forged addresses, failure to remove 
people from lists as requested, sale and resale of lists without the 
consent of those on the lists, using improperly harvested addresses, 
etc.  With such laws in place, it becomes much simpler for a provider 
like AGIS to structure its contracts so that they can be quickly 
terminated in the event of a customer engaging in 'unlawful activities.'


Cheers,

The Old Bear

------------------------------

From: Christopher W. Boone <cboone@NOSPAMearthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Combining Analog Lines
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 22:56:06 -0500
Organization: The Walt Disney Company / ABC Radio Networks Engineering
Reply-To: cboone@NOSPAMearthlink.net


There was a story in {Internet Week} magazine a week or so ago on
such modems that use TWO analog lines to get 67K or 112K if supported
by your ISP. I think I threw the article out but you might get info
from the magazine.

Your idea evidently has been on their minds (at the modem makers) for
some time already. The modems aren't cheap ($400 or so).


Chris

------------------------------

From: admin@honoluluairport.com
Subject: Re: Combining Analog Lines
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 08:48:09 GMT


On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 12:35:18 -0700, Cameron Smith <ccsmith@pinc.com>
wrote:

> I live in a rural area where digital service is all but unavailable.
> We have, here on-island, an ISP who brings in a T-1 signal. In order
> to get that T-1 (or any fraction thereof) to my home, I would have to
> pay the telco a $1400 setup fee and over $1200 per month! Plus, of
> course, the connection fee to the ISP.

> The ISP, however, is willing to let me co-locate a machine on his
> premises.  What I can do is set up a standard analog line from that
> machine to my home with a couple of 56K modems. So far so good.

> What I *want* to do, however, is set up *two* analog lines with 56k
> modems and combine or concentrate them somehow. 

Cameron,

I read on the net once about inverse multiplexing analog lines as you
describe. I can't find the URL though! Sorry. Try doing a Yahoo search
on inverse multiplexing. Maybe you could also try the sat. dishes that
conx to the net?  


Regards,

David

------------------------------

From: jim@newmediagroup.com (Jim Youll)
Subject: Re: Voice Mail Spam
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:10:22 -0400
Organization: Agent Zero Communications


J.D. Baldwin <baldwin@netcom.com> wrote:

> Last night, this was exceeded by Ameritech, which my fellow
> midwesterners know is The Most Evil Corporation In The History Of The
> World.  My phone service with Ameritech includes phone company hosted
> voice mail (so I can get messages during busy signals on what is
> primarily a data line).  Last night, when checking my messages, there
> was a two-minute "bulletin" from Ameritech.  I punched in the code to
> listen to it (I don't think there was a way around it) and was treated
> to an ad for some sort of "sweepstakes" Ameritech wanted me to enter
> by calling some 800-#.

> WHAT THE HELL?!?

> I plan to call Ameritech to complain, loudly, about this practice, but
> I thought I'd mention it here to see whether:

>     a) Anyone else has experienced this;

Oh yes, and I tend to pickup VM with a cellular phone, so I pay by the
minute if they pollute my inbox. And yes, I got this junk even though
I was promised a year ago that they would "remove" my box from the
broadcast list.

>    b) There is any way to stop this (that I should know about
>       before calling)?

Yes, but you already know what it is: "... call Ameritech to complain,
loudly, about this practice". That's what I do. If your state has a
public utilities commission that's worth anything, take your complaint
there next. In Ohio they know of Ameritech's tricks ("free" services
like 3-way calling, silently added to the line, that cost money when
you use them, even by accident)

If it takes an escalation call to the Chicago headquarters to get this
done -- do it. But, that's what those Chicago people are there for --
don't be shy about calling. BTW there IS an 800-number for the Chicago
office, though the front lines staff and their direct supervisors
don't like to give it out.

My God -- you PAY for the voicemail and they treat it like they own
it! I'm so glad Ameritech has competition here (NW Ohio) and can't
wait until the competitors start taking mainstream customers.

BTW, I've had the 3-way calling "feature" removed from the line; our
PUC has had tons of complaints about it (to the extent that Ameritech
had to send extra notices to everyone about it.)

------------------------------

From: catfood@apk.net (Mark W. Schumann)
Subject: Re: Voice Mail Spam
Date: 6 Oct 1997 09:02:03 -0400
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site


In article <telecom17.274.9@telecom-digest.org>, J.D. Baldwin
<baldwin@netcom.com> wrote:

> We all get e-mail spam.  I'm hardly alone there.

> I am, however, the only one I know who's received PAGER spam.  A few
> months back, my text pager came alive with several ads purportedly for
> MEN'S HEALTH magazine.  I called the 800-# to raise hell, and got an
> ad for some sort of sex chat instead.  Grrrrrrr.

I've gotten pager spam, of the numeric variety.  It's not uncommon;
you get a message to call a number you don't recognize and WHAM! it's
some high-priced Carribean island.  Amply covered here in c.d.t.

Alpha pager spam?  Wow, that's new.

> Last night, this was exceeded by Ameritech, which my fellow
> midwesterners know is The Most Evil Corporation In The History Of The
> World.  My phone service with Ameritech includes phone company hosted
> voice mail (so I can get messages during busy signals on what is
> primarily a data line).  Last night, when checking my messages, there
> was a two-minute "bulletin" from Ameritech.  I punched in the code to
> listen to it (I don't think there was a way around it) and was treated
> to an ad for some sort of "sweepstakes" Ameritech wanted me to enter
> by calling some 800-#.

I have Ameritech voice mail on an Ohio line that is primarily used for
voice calls.  I've received many service announcements on this line
from Ameritech, but they have all been legitimate messages to inform
me of things like upcoming outages.


Mark W. Schumann | catfood@apk.net
Why should I change or hide my return address to deter spammers?
I just loop the garbage right back at 'em.

------------------------------

From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: Bits Error After Lightning
Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 03:36:07 GMT


In article <telecom17.274.5@telecom-digest.org>, Felix Leung
<felixleung@technologist.com> wrote:

> Hi, I got the answer for the following question, but I am not sure how
> should I handle the 0.2 bits error, should I just leave the answer as
> 25.2 or I should use 26bits?

> If the speed of transmission on a line is 7200bps and that line is hit
> by lighting that causes an impluse distortion of 3.5 milliseconds,
> what is the max. number of bits that could be in error?

> The term bit rate representing the number of bits per second.  7200
> bits per sec. * .0035 sec. = 25.2 bits could be in error.

Let me guess:  A homework problem in some sort of data communications
class.

Sigh.

In terms of getting the "right answer", 25.2 probably isn't it.  You
can't really corrupt a fractional bit - it's either corrupted or not.
So they probably want you to round up to 26.  Or maybe they're looking
for 27 -- at 7200 bps, a bit lasts .139 milliseconds.  So 25 bits
(25*.139=3.47) will be completely distorted.  That leaves .03 ms, and
half of that can take out the last 15 microseconds of the "first" bit
and the first 15 microseconds of the "last" bit, giving a total of 27
possibly distorted bits.

Of course, in an ideal system, the receiver should be able to correctly
detect a bit as long as it's over half right, so maybe 25 is the right
answer -- even if all the extra .2 ends up hitting the same bit,
there's still .8 of that bit to get it right.

But no real world communications system works this way, anyway.  Are we
talking about a modem line here?  7200 bps modems use more than one
bit-per-baud, and a noise hit can screw up an entire baud, so you
really need to know the baud rate, figure out how many bauds are
corrupted, and then multiply by bits-per-baud.  Plus, with anything
above a very basic modulation (i.e. just about anything faster tahn
600bps or so), the bauds aren't independant.  If one is screwed up, it
makes decoding the next one correctly impossible also.

Some modulations, including, I think, v.32 (which would be the a common
7200bps modulation), use scramblers, which also compound a single-bit
error into more bits-in-error.  (But you could csondier the scrambler
to be a higher layer, and make the problem concentrate just on the
phyiscal line, in which case the scrambler effects would be
irrelevant.

Sorry I can't help you with a specific answer ... if my assumption that
you are getting this in return for money you paid to an educational
institution is correct, than I have lots of suggestions for them :).


Brett  (brettf@netcom.com)

------------------------------

From: Jason Clifford <jason.clifford@domgen.com>
Subject: Re: Worldcom - MCI Merger?
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 16:45:04 +0100
Organization: Genesis Internet Services Limited


Doug Dalton wrote:

> Other side on this merger is that BT has been running a smear campaign
> against MCI, BT contends that MCI is a struggling company that made
> itself look better than it was actually performing and was providing
> misinformation during merger discussions.  I don't know how much of
> this is propaganda, I don't think BT is trying to get out of the
> merger, but they sure make it seem that way, the UUNet offer must be
> stressing BT's protests.

Bearing in mind how much BT will loose if the MCI merger fails I think
this is unlikely.

Recently BT have been remarketing themselves to their business customers
as Concert (BT/MCI) and stating that through the merger and firming up
of Concert BT will be able to offer truely world-class comms. The loss
of face resulting from the merger failure after BT assured everyone that
it was a done deal and made all the usual promises will be damaging in
terms of future business.

I am currently looking to implement a $300,000/year European network for
one of my clients and Concert (BT/MCI) was, until the Worldcom
announcement, the most likely to get the business. Now I am looking into
the matter again.


Jason Clifford
Genesis Internet Services Limited

As a service I provide analysis of viruses and poor grammar to senders
of unsolicited commercial e-mail at a rate of $500.00 per hour. Delivery
of said correspondence constitutes a request for the aforementioned
services at said price. Supply billing address.

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 9 Oct 97 00:05:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 276

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link To Internet (Editor)
    AT&T Wireless Long Distance? (Celeste Tyree)
    Pay Phone Rates May Go Up After Deregulation (Monty Solomon)
    WhoWhere Announcement (Eric Florack)
    Outside Plant Issues (Warrens Stiles)
    Question About PacBell SuperTrunk ANI (William Dietrich)
    Book Review: "Shockwave Studio" by Schmitt (Rob Slade)
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From: TELECOM Digest Editor <editor@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link To Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:36:59 -0700


This report which appeared in WSJ on October 7 bears some discussion
by Digest readers.  

                    ---------------------------

Electric Outlets Could Be Link To the Internet 
By Gautam Naik  The Wall Street Journal  10/07/97 

LONDON -- Engineers claim to have developed a breakthrough technology
that would let homeowners make phone calls and access the Internet at
high speeds via the electric outlets in their walls. 

If the technology developed by United Utilities PLC and Northern
Telecom Ltd. proves commercially viable, it could transform power
lines around the world into major conduits on the information
superhighway. Because electricity flows into virtually every home and
office the new technology could give power companies easy entree into
the phone and Internet access businesses, thus posing a serious
threat to current providers of those services. 

Both United Utilities, a power company, and Northern Telecom, a
Canadian maker of telecom gear, confirmed that their system was
"ready for the mass market," but declined to reveal details until a
news conference scheduled for tomorrow. A Northern Telecom spokesman
also declined to elaborate. 

While the technology must still be proven on a large scale, the two
companies have tested telephone service over power lines in about 20
U.K. households over the last 12 months -- with positive results,
according to Alistair Henderson, chief of technology at Energis PLC,
the telecom unit of National Grid Group PLC, which owns and operates
the electricity-transmission system in England and Wales. Energis,
one of several power companies that has secretly worked with United
Utilities on the "power line telephony" project, hopes to use the
system to offer data services to its own business customers. 

"It's very good news for utilities, indeed," says Mr. Henderson.
"Everybody has an electricity line to their homes, and every business
has electric supply. "At long last, the local monopoly of the
incumbent telecom operators is about to be demolished." 

But some questions remain. Although United Utilities' initial tests
have been successful, technical and safety wrinkles have to be ironed
out. There's also likely to be intensifying competition from a host
of other wanna-be phone and Internet service providers, including
cable companies and outfits that use wireless technology to provide
high-speed access. And for the new system to be commercially
feasible, a power utility would have to sign up 40% or more of homes
and offices in a particular neighborhood, Mr. Henderson says. 

This could prove a difficult task as existing telecommunications
players have proven to be adept at making life hard for new entrants.
The Baby Bells in the U.S., for example, have largely thwarted
efforts by AT&T Corp. and MCI Communications Corp. to enter the local
telephone business. 

In recent years electric utilities in the U.S. and Europe have been
trying to enter the telecom fray by the more conventional method of
stringing fiber-optic cables along power lines. But so far they've
had limited success. As a result, utilities have waited for exactly
this kind of breakthrough to make a big splash in the telecom wars. 

While electric lines have been used before to zap tiny amounts of
data between computers, their capacity has always been limited,
making commercial applications unfeasible. Now United Utilities'
telecom arm, Norweb Communications, has found a way to transmit data
at a speed of more than 384 kilobits per second over regular
electricity lines -- more than 10 times the speed of Internet modems
used by most households with regular telephone lines. 

The advantage of the latest system -- which uses cellular phone
technology to transmit signals along electric wires -- is that
utilities needn't spend vast amounts of to build new telecom
infrastructure, since existing power lines can simultaneously
transmit both electricity, and a phone call, say. Electricity doesn't
interfere with the phone transmission for the same reason that a
radio broadcast doesn't interfere with a simultaneous TV broadcast:
the frequencies are very different. "Utilities won't have to touch
the wires underground," notes Mr. Henderson. 

Of course, there will be some cost to utilities that want to
commercialize the new technology and enter the telecom business.
Utilities will have to install a device in each residence or office
to separate the electricity and phone transmissions. From the device,
one line will deliver the telephone and Internet link, while the
other will deliver electricity. In the case of the two companies'
test, Northern Telecom is believed to have built the box that
separates the power and data transmissions. 


Jennifer Schenker contributed to this article. 

------------------------------

From: Celeste Tyree <celestine@seanet.com>
Subject: AT&T Wireless Long Distance?
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:52:05 -0700


Dear Pat,

WARNING! WARNING!  This is for all the cell phone users that were so
excited about getting their new Digital phones and did not worry about
who their long distance carrier.

Here is what the latest scam is from AT&T Wireless.  In the past I
have had no problem getting my residential rates on my cellular
phones.  Yes, I did use a reseller for my analog service.  When I
signed up with Airtouch I requested that they pick AT&T for my
carrier.  I then called AT&T and asked that they add my new number to
my account. No problem.  About three weeks later MCI called with a
better rate.  Okay, I switch and I called Airtouch to let them know.
Then AT&T called again with an even better deal "free minutes".  Okay,
I'll switch.  Again, I called Airtouch and told them about my carrier
change. No problem.  I received my bill from MCI with my 1+ calls from
my cell phone on it.  No problem.

Surprise! When I get my bill for my calls from AT&T it is a separate
bill from AT&T Wireless and my rate is $.17 per minute !!!  Calmly, I
phoned Airtouch to see if that had made an error.  No everything was
fine on my account and this was the first time the rep had heard of
this type of problem.

Okay, now I have to call AT&T.  I am sure everyone has had that
experience and normally it is not a good one.  First, I called to see
what numbers were on my account.  There are two residential and one
cellular.  The one cellular is my analog phone.  I said where do you
show the number for my digital phone?  Oh, it's not on this account
you need to call AT&T Wireless.  I called 1 800 367 0226. (The number
on my bill.)  I asked what was going on and if I could get my $.10 a
minute rate. No, you can't but call 1 800 742 5288 for True Rewards
and they can discount your rate 25%.  So, I called, can I get my $.10
per minute. No.  Call AT&T Wireless and around I went.

In the meantime my friend calls who has a cell phone from AT&T
Wireless and says that they charged him $.26 per minute for his 1+ on
his phone.  HELP! He told me he called AT&T and gave them the number
to add to his account.

We all know that someone here is pulling something and it is AT&T
Wireless!!  So instead of trying to stay a customer with AT&T, I
phoned both AT&T Wireless and Airtouch and asked who I could pick for
a long distance carrier.  They read to me a very long list.  Since I
knew that MCI was able to be my carrier for $.12 a minute and $.05 on
Sundays I picked MCI for both phone plus they have excellent
international rates.

Everyone please make sure that you check your long-distance carrier on
your new cellular phone.  AT&T Wireless was not the long distance
carrier I picked for my cellular phone.


Celeste M Tyree

Exotek Telecom Consulting
25424 213th Place SE #5
Maple Valley, WA 98038
Phone/fax 1 425 432 5311
Mobile     1 206 948 9855

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:09:10 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Pay Phone Rates May Go Up After Deregulation


Pay Phone Rates May Go Up After Deregulation

By Roger Fillion 

WASHINGTON - Consumers will probably have to dig deeper into their 
pockets for more coins when making a local call from a pay phone now 
that price caps on pay phones have been abolished. 

On Tuesday, Federal Communications Commission rules took effect that 
deregulate pay phone rates nationwide. States no longer can impose their 
own ceilings that in some cases have kept the cost of a local call as 
low as a dime. 

Analysts predict the typical call will rise to 35 cents from the 25-cent 
rate that now predominates at the 2.1 million pay phones scattered 
around the nation. 

"Clearly, the assumption is many pay phone companies will be raising 
their rates," said analyst John Bain of Hoak, Breedlove Wesneski & Co. 
in Dallas. 

Phone companies say they have no immediate plans to raise rates and
are studying their options. But analysts expect many will move over
the next several weeks to boost rates in search of profit on what has
been a money-losing venture.

"This is long overdue," Bain said. "In most jurisdictions, coin rates 
have not gone up for decades." 

Vince Sandusky, president of the American Public Communications Council, 
a trade group, said the typical pay phone rate has been 25 cents "for 
roughly 15-20 years." 

He added that industry figures put the cost of delivering a pay phone 
call at 32-35 cents. 

Consumer advocates cry foul, however. They charge that callers are not
in a position to "shop around" and that rate hikes will hit those
least able to pay.

"Allowing pay phone providers to charge an unlimited rate for pay
phone calls will disproportionately affect the poor and those
consumers who are least able to afford an increase," said Janee
Briesemeister of Consumers Union in Austin, Texas.

"We know that lower-income families frequently do not have phones in 
their homes and rely on pay phones." 

The FCC rules stem from the Telecommunications Act of 1996. They are 
aimed at letting market forces, instead of state regulators, set rates. 

The regional Baby Bell phone companies and GTE Corp. account for the
lion's share of pay phone operations. But there are more than 2,000
small independent operators.

"We don't have any immediate plans to increase rates. But we are
looking at how much it costs to serve a particular area," said GTE
spokeswoman Nancy Bavec.

"It's a competitive market," she said. "The cost will go to what the 
market will bear." 

Ameritech Corp., a Chicago-based Baby Bell, said it was "pleased" with
the deregulation but that it was "not prepared to speculate" about
possible price changes.

"We'll make our decisions ... as we monitor and evaluate our competitors' 
responses and consumer reaction," it added.

A spokesman for another regional phone company, Atlanta-based BellSouth 
Corp. said it is studying the use of "market-based pricing." 

Analysts and industry officials say the pay phone business is labor 
intensive. They cite the need to send workers to pay phone sites to 
clean and repair phones and collect the coins. 

They also said larger phone companies have managed to subsidize their
pay phone rates through other operations. Those subsidies must end
under the new FCC rules.

Consumer advocates suggest callers who are unhappy with the price
should complain to the convenience store, service station or other
"location owner" where a phone is located. The owner of the site gets
a fee from the pay phone company.

Consumers also should complain to state regulators, who in turn can ask 
the FCC to change the rules, the advocates suggest. 



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have mentioned here a couple times
about the COCOTS I had installed for a business in Skokie which
requested my assistance. The three Ameritech payphones located very
close by (about twenty feet away) already charge 35 cents per call
and don't give any bargain on long distance either. I deliberatly had
'my' two COCOTS programmed for 25 cents on local coin calls and also
programmed for three minutes of long distance at one dollar in coins.
Additional long distance minutes are 25 cents each. My phones have
a very nice brilliant blue housing, are *brightly* lighted with
flourescent tubes and have a lighted sign on a mast overhead which
says 'phone' with a picture of a handset. They are fully compliant
for the purpose of using the long distance carrier of choice, and
there is no charge -- zero -- to call 800/888.  Reflective signs 
mounted on the mast announce the rates.

Ameritech just found out about them the other day when the collector
came out to look at their three phones which sit directly under a
pigeon roost (about thirty of the creatures live in the area under
the roof overhanging on the sidewalk there, on the wooden beams
around the edge of the building); they are not lighted and two 
of the three have illegible instruction cards. He noticed his coin
boxes were almost empty after two months and the phones covered 
with pigeon droppings, feathers, graffiti, etc.  'My' phones get
wiped clean daily and the handsets cleaned with Lysol. So the
Ameritech collector came over to check them out and he asked how
much they were taking in. I told him the collector comes out usually
twice weekly and typically pulls $75-100 out of each phone each
time. This is right at a very major bus stop in Skokie. He complained
that I should have those set for 35 cents like his. I asked if the
35 cents would include all the pigeon droppings one could stand in
and next to while using the phone <g> ... he checked them out and made
a call on one, then walked away. I have noticed that when a Greyhound
bus pulls up the driver will usually give the passengers five or ten
mintues to run in the station for snacks, etc ... the passengers will
be lined up waiting to use those two phones as soon as they see the
sign saying 'three minutes for one dollar using coins as payment'.
Multiply that by nine Greyhounds coming through every day. All those
passengers, you see, used to go use the Ameritech phones in the same
way, although not at the same rates, as the Ameritech collector knew
quite well when *he* used to come out twice a week for his despite
all the pigeons, etc. I think Ameritech was sorry to lose that revenue,
but I don't feel sorry for them at all. Had they responded promptly
to fix the phones when they they were out of order, lighted them up
as requested, kept them clean and paid a decent commission, I am
sure the proprietor would have kept them exclusively. The company
which operates my COCOTS gave the proprietor a choice of commission
options: one was for 30 percent of *all* (coin and non-coin) revenue
since they get a kick back from their Alternate Operator Service,
or 35 percent on coin-in-the-box only, less line charges. I recomm-
ended the later; it seemed like more money. They would have gone
to 40 percent had I not insisted on 25 cent local rates and the
three minutes/one dollar rate.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:35:41 PDT
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: WhoWhere Announcement


 From {Internet Daily}:

** Improved telephone directory assistance on Web

WhoWhere?, Inc. announced today a partnership with DirectoryNET to
bring what it calls the first affordable real-time directory
assistance service to the World Wide Web. WhoWhereConnectNOW,
jointly developed by WhoWhere? and DirectoryNET, a subsidiary of
Telstra Corporation Limited, allows Internet users to obtain up-
to-date directory information by providing direct access to the
RBOC (Regional Bell Operating Company) databases widely used by
telephone directory assistance operators throughout the United
States. For a monthly subscription fee of $9.90, users of
ConnectNOW have Web access to more than 130 million business,
residential and government listings -- the same information used
by local directory assistance, or ``555-1212'' services.

[TELECOM  Digest Editor's Note: Too bad they did not include a
URL or net.address for reaching/using the service. PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 14:09:34 -0700
From: Warrens Stiles <warrens@isomedia.com>
Reply-To: mail.isomedia.com
Subject: Outside Plant Issues


I am interested in learning what concerns people most regarding
outside plant installation and maintenance.  I recently learned of a
new ANSI & ICEA recognized compound that is supposed to stop water
intrusion into splices and cable while offering improved bandwidth
performance in copper lines.  Has anyone heard of abosrbing
thixotropic gel?  I wonder if it has any appeal and if anyone knows if
it works.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:45:34 -0700
From: William Dietrich <billdietrich@voiscorp.com>
Subject: Question About PacBell SuperTrunk ANI


We just installed SuperTrunk (voice T1) service from PacBell, in the
San Francisco Bay Area (Sunnyvale, CA).

We thought we could get ANI (Caller ID) on this T1, but PacBell says
they don't offer that service; you have to get Primary Rate ISDN to
get ANI.

I find this hard to believe; I thought one of the main uses of voice
T1 was for 800 numbers, and ANI would be extremely common in that
situation.

We do get incoming digits (after winking), but they are DID (last 4
digits of our T1's phone number).

Side note: they can't just type a command somewhere to change us from
voice T1 to PRI; they have to un-install and re-install wiring, and
charge us money.

Another side note: the monthly fee for PRI is LOWER than the monthly
fee for voice T1 !  Seems backwards.

Can anyone tell me if my PacBell representative is right or wrong?
Is it possible to get ANI on a PacBell SuperTrunk?


Thanks,

Bill Dietrich
Sr Software Engineer, VOIS Corp
billdietrich@voiscorp.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 10:46:51 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Shockwave Studio" by Schmitt


BKSWVSTD.RVW   970320
 
"Shockwave Studio", Bob Schmitt, 1997, 1-56592-231-X, U$39.95/C$57.95
%A   Bob Schmitt
%C   103 Morris Street, Suite A, Sebastopol, CA   95472
%D   1997
%G   1-56592-231-X
%I   O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
%O   U$39.95/C$57.95 800-998-9938 707-829-0515 fax: 707-829-0104 nuts@ora.com
%P   200
%T   "Shockwave Studio: Designing Multimedia for the Web"
 
With Java, as an experienced programmer, you can dedicate two weeks to learning
a new language, master object-orientation, and then animate a graphic figure on
a Web page and make it dance.
 
Big deal.
 
At this point, one normally says something like, "Enter Shockwave," except that
Shockwave, and its Director predecessor, have been around longer than Java.
 
The title of this book is slightly misleading.  Although Shockwave is capable
of handling a variety of media, this work concentrates primarily on animation
via static image files and other related effects.  The explanation is through
sample code, but the annotation of the code is both extensive and clear.  The
scope of the material covers not only the basics of the language, but finer
points in terms of performance and compatibility.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKSWVSTD.RVW   970320


roberts@decus.ca         rslade@vcn.bc.ca         slade@freenet.victoria.bc.ca
link to virus, book info at http://www.freenet.victoria.bc.ca/techrev/rms.html
Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94663-2 (800-SPRINGER)

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 9 Oct 97 21:40:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 277

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Book Review: "The Web Page Recipe Book" by Sosinsky/Parker (Rob Slade)
    UCLA Short Course on "Digital Signal Processing" (Bill Goodin)
    Number's Up On Credit Card Scam (Joey Lindstrom)
    MCI and Spam (Dave Harrison)
    New Book on the Internet (Jud Wolfskill)
    Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll (Jack Decker)
    Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts (Greg Monti)
    Re: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service (John McGing)
    Re: Combining Analog Lines (Jeff Carter)

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 11:09:48 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The Web Page Recipe Book" by Sosinsky/Parker


BKWBPGRC.RVW   970328
 
"The Web Page Recipe Book", Barrie Sosinsky/Elisabeth Parker, 1996,
0-13-460296-X, U$29.95/C$38.00
%A   Barrie Sosinsky
%A   Elisabeth Parker
%C   One Lake St., Upper Saddle River, NJ   07458
%D   1996
%G   0-13-460296-X
%I   Prentice Hall
%O   U$29.95/C$38.00 +1-201-236-7139 fax: 201-236-7131 beth_hespe@prenhall.com
%P   352
%T   "The Web Page Recipe Book"
 
About a year ago, there was a discussion on the NETTRAIN mailing list
about the best Web page creation software.  My favorite response was
the one that suggested Notepad: HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is
really quite simple, and if you can't be bothered to learn it, then
you probably aren't willing to do the design work necessary to keep
your page out of the hundred million garbage pages already on the Web.
 
So, I am not predisposed to like a book recommending the use of canned
Web pages with "paint by numbers" drop-ins.  On the other hand, the
book does start off with a background on the basics.  On the third
hand, right off the bat, page eight parses the wrong URL (Uniform
Resource Locator), page ten gets the relationship between HTML and
SGML (Standard Generalized Markup Language) wrong, and page twelve
gets the name of a recommended program wrong.
 
In fact, the "paint by numbers" aspect is not strongly emphasized:
while the sample pages are available on disk, the book annotates them
well enough to be a workable tutorial on HTML.  By using the "mailto"
function, the authors are even able to provide simple and workable
forms, something that most other HTML books signally fail to do.  The
explanations are clear, and the basic page creation is developmental
so that functions can be added and pages improved as the reader
progresses.
 
Still, there are a number of annoying aspects to the book.  The
strongest is that the formatting of the HTML code (designated by
underlining, and often run together) makes reading much more difficult
than it needed to be.  The advice is inconsistent at times: page
twenty-three promotes the important design rule that Web pages should
allow for the use of non-graphical browsers and promises that all
pages are checked with Lynx, but if there is a Lynx screen shot buried
in the book, I couldn't find it.  Even the screens of browsers with
graphics turned off are not good examples, since the pages used are
done "properly", and don't show how annoying a page of undistinguished
image tags is.
 
While I couldn't recommend it as a solid guide to HTML, it has enough of
interest to be considered as an inclusion on the bookshelf.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKWBPGRC.RVW   970328


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca

------------------------------

From: Bill Goodin <bgoodin@unex.ucla.edu>
Subject: UCLA Short Course on "Digital Signal Processing"
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:00:44 -0700


On January 5-9, 1998, UCLA Extension will present the short course,
"Digital Signal Processing: Theory, Algorithms and Implementations",
on the UCLA campus in Los Angeles.

The instructor is Robert W. Stewart, PhD, Faculty Member, Department
of Electronic and Electrical Engineering, University of Strathclyde,
Glasgow, Scotland.

Each participant receives a Digital Signal Processing Reference
Glossary (500 pages); multimedia reference CD-ROM featuring
algorithms, DSP sample problems, graphs, and comprehensive notes;
software and hardware workbook and manuals; and lecture notes.

This course presents the core theory and algorithms of DSP and
demonstrates through laboratory sessions the real-time and real-world
implementation of digital signal processing strategies. It is intended
for engineers, computer scientists and programmers, and project
management staff. After presenting the mathematical tools and theory
of DSP, the course features practical laboratory sessions that allow
participants to simulate and implement advanced DSP systems such as
acoustic echo cancellers, psychoacoustic compression strategies, or
software systems.

Participants should obtain the tools and materials necessary to apply
DSP methods immediately at their workplace, as well as:

o	Analyze discrete time systems using time domain mathematics
o	Analyze discrete time systems using frequency domain/Z-domain 
        mathematics
o	Understand the fundamental theory relating to sampling rate, 
        quantization noise and the architecture of a generic DSP system
o	Design and implement FIR, IIR, and adaptive digital filters for
        real-world applications in digital audio and acoustics and
        telecommunications
o	Understand the theory of adaptive signal processing systems
        and how to apply to real-world problems
o	Understand the DSP theory of signal coding and compression
o	Understand the key theory and achievable advantages of 
        oversampling, multirate, noise shaping, and undersampling 
        strategies
o	Undertake DSP system design using advanced analysis and
        design software
o	Implement real-time digital filters, and adaptive digital
        filters using DSP simulation software, and real-time DSP 
        processor hardware
o	Apply DSP theory and algorithms in the application domains
        of modern computing, multimedia systems, and communication systems
o	Integrate theoretical and practical skills to undertake a DSP
        design project.

SystemView software (running on Windows 3.1/95) will be used for the
DSP software laboratory sessions. This advanced software provides a
comprehensive, state-of-the-art DSP toolbox for modern signal
processing.

An evaluation license will be available to participants so that they
can continue to use the software after the course.

The course fee is $1495, which includes extensive course materials.
These materials are for participants only, and are not for sale.

For a more information and a complete course description, please
contact Marcus Hennessy at:

(310) 825-1047
(310) 206-2815  fax
mhenness@unex.ucla.edu
http://www.unex.ucla.edu/shortcourses

This course may also be presented on-site at company locations.

------------------------------

From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 97 05:11:35 -0700
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com>
Subject: Number's Up On Credit Card Scam


By Bill Kaufmann
Calgary Sun
(c) 1997 Sun Media

City Police have lowered the boom on a credit card scam that has
bilked thousands of victims of at least $2 million.

The Golden Globe Investment Club solicited $100 US from customers
across North America with poor or non-existent credit, promising them
either Visa or Mastercard from offshore banks.  None of the estimated
2,000 applicants has received a credit card.

A downtown Calgary office - once operated by Globe - was raided by
City Police who discovered courier packages containing cash enroute
to Nassau, Bahamas.

The company is operating an Internet website, said police, who are
seeking several Golden Globe staffers in Calgary.  The operation's
kingpin, believed to be in the Bahamas, is wanted on seven counts of
fraud in Edmonton.


 From:  The Desk Of Joey Lindstrom  +1 403-606-3853
 EMAIL: joey@lindstrom.com  numanoid@ab.imag.net  lindstrj@cadvision.com
 WEBB:  http://www.ab.imag.net/worldwidewebb/

------------------------------

From: Davew@cris.com (Dave Harrison)
Subject: MCI and Spam
Date: 9 Oct 1997 08:57:58 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services


Since AGIS pulled the plug on Spamford, the amount of unwanted email
in my box seems to have dropped about 80%, which is still way too
much.

Lately, I've seen an increase from sites connected thru MCI. As MCI
has conditions of service that prohibit Spam activities, and MCI
hasn't pulled the plug on the Spammers, I can only assume that money
means more to MCI than their reputation.

As a person responsible for a 96 line Centrex group, with MCI as the
pic, I have decided to select another carrier and dump MCI like a
carton of Spam. Our average MCI 1+ bill (and lately some of our lata
traffic) is only about 5k a month, but hey, dropping MCI lets me
express my displeasure with them.

And before anyone admonishes me for not bypassing ... we bill calls to
clients, so saving a few cents a minute isn't worth investing in a
switch.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:25:24 EDT
From: wolfskil@MIT.EDU (Jud Wolfskill)
Subject: New Book on the Internet


The following is a book which readers of this list might find of interest.
For more information please visit:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/mitp/recent-books/new-releases.html

Coordinating the Internet
edited by Brian Kahin and James H. Keller

For years, the world saw the Internet as a creature of the U.S. Department
of Defense. Now some claim that the Internet is a self-governing organism
controlled by no one and needing no oversight. Although the National
Science Foundation and other government agencies continue to support and
oversee critical administrative and coordinating functions, the Internet
is remarkably decentralized and uninstitutionalized. As it grows in scope,
bandwidth, and functionality, the Internet will require greater
coordination, but it is not yet clear what kind of coordinating mechanisms
will evolve.

The essays in this volume clarify these issues and suggest possible models
for governing the Internet. The topics addressed range from settlements
and statistics collection to the sprawling problem of domain names, which
affects the commercial interests of millions of companies around the
world. One recurrent theme is the inseparability of technical and policy
issues in any discussion involving the Internet.

A publication of the Harvard Information Infrastructure Project
September 1997
500 pp.
ISBN 0-262-61136-8
MIT Press * 5 Cambridge Center * Cambridge, MA  02142 * (800)356-0343

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 20:51:38 -0400
From: Jack Decker <jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com>
Subject: Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll


Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

> GTE doesn't have any LATAs of their own in the state of Michigan. All
> LATAs in Michigan are considered to be Ameritech (formerly Michigan
> Bell). 'Traditional' Independent telcos which provide service within
> a BOC LATA have toll-homings to the BOC tandem switch in that LATA
> for intra-LATA toll calls. Some independents do have their own toll
> or tandem switch, if that independent has a large number of exchanges
> within a small region in the same LATA, but not all of the traffic
> between the exchanges is local.

Well, GTE may not have their own LATAs but they do have their own
intraLATA toll.  A toll call between two GTE points in the same LATA
generally never sees an Ameritech switch.  Further, GTE has their own
toll operators.  Independent telephone companies in Michigan have the
option of obtaining intraLATA toll service from either Ameritech or
GTE, and if they choose GTE their customers talk to GTE operators, not
Ameritech operators.  If you live in California or someplace like that
you may think that this is a bad thing, but actually GTE service has
improved considerably in Michigan in the last decade or so, and unless
you happen to live in an area "served" by a subscriber carrier system
(also known as an incredibly obsolete and substandard excuse for phone
service, unfortunately still foisted on an unlucky few GTE rural
customers), chances are that you will get phone service about on a par
with what you would expect from Ameritech, AND you don't suffer the
slimey tricks that Ameritech pulls on their customers (such as adding
unwanted and co$tly "per-use" custom calling features to your line
without warning).

Where GTE really falls down is in their customer service - it is still
very difficult to get a correct answer about anything without jumping
through a lot of hoops (trying to find the correct 101XXXX code for
GTE's intraLATA toll is a perfect example; even their "Action Line"
couldn't seem to pry this bit of information loose from the switch
technicians.  I suppose I could bug some of the local upper management
to get the number, but GTE management personnel seem to change so
frequently that every time I get a "good" contact there, it seems that
they are gone by the next time I try to contact them, and I haven't
had time this week to play telephone tag with them).

> Ameritech does have some 101-XXXX codes, which _might_ happen to be
> dialable for intra-LATA calls from those GTE central offices. The
> following 101-XXXX+ codes are assigned to Ameritech, according to the
> FCC's latest list of US/NANP numbering/dialing information:

> 101-5475+, 101-5606+, 101-6123+; and for Ameritech's "Long-Distance"
> (future inTER-LATA toll? Ameritech's Cellular inTER-LATA toll?) there
> is 101-0113+ (10-113+ in the older/shorter, soon to be obsolete format).

None of these work here - after dialing the code it immediately cuts
to an "I'm sorry, your call cannot be completed as dialed" recording.
Except for a very short period of time a few years back when GTE
experimented with letting Ameritech handle their toll calls, Ameritech
toll has never been accessible from GTE exchanges (at least not in
this area, although I think there were a few geographically isolated
GTE exchanges that have always connected to Ameritech for toll).

The thing that I am curious about is this: As I understand it (and
feel free to correct me if I am wrong), if you do not have GTE as your
default toll carrier, they have to load a PIC code into the switch for
your preferred carrier.  And it is possible to have NO default toll
carrier (both interLATA and intraLATA), in which case no toll call
will go through unless you dial an access code first.  So, it would
seem that there MUST be a code for GTE intraLATA toll, that would be
the default code used in the switch if you don't ask for another
carrier or specify that you don't want a default carrier.  I would
guess that the switch technicians know what that code is, but
apparently they aren't telling!


Jack
When replying via e-mail, remove the "bogus" part of my e-mail address - I
get WAY too much spam as it is, and I NEVER buy anything from spammers!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 22:28:58 -0400
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts


On 03 Oct 1997, The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com> wrote:

> Something is going on with the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX consolidation of 
> billing functions where customers on 'unlimited' dialing plans are 
> suddenly finding themselves improperly billed for calls which should 
> be included in their dialing area.  This may be exacerbated by the 
> number of new exchanges being created by the new entrant LECs which 
> are not always located where the LEC indicates that they are.

So, this is even worse than the problem I had described before.  In a
state with toll alerting, the callers are not getting the alert in
some cases, but are being billed toll rates anyway.

[Example 1]

> ... Customer service at my ISP assures 
> me that they pay for the forwarding from Quincy - but I'm scared of 
> what my next bill will look like - 

This one sounds like just plain bad switch programming.  The standard
rule is that, when forwarding from A to B to C, A pays for the call
from A to B. B pays for the call from B to C.  Sounds like a tariff
violation to me.

Complain loudly.  Or better yet, sue.  Sometimes it takes a
two-by-four to get the mule's attention.

[Example 2]

> Moral here is to recheck all those numbers your ISP says are local 
> calls, if they have foreign exchanges, in other words exchanges that 
> don't match the other exchanges in the town you are supposed to be 
> calling, call Bell Atlantic to be sure they aren't toll calls for you.

If this was in Massachusetts, the disputed calls must have crossed
area code boundaries, where there is currently (or was until recently)
no toll alerting.  So the calling party could not have known at the
time of dialing whether it was toll.

On 3 Oct 97, shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) wrote:

> Why not do like US West does here in Oregon? We get "full toll
> alerting", and it works for basic service *and* for all three (or is
> it four?)  levels of "extended area" calling.

> It's doable that way and *not* confusing. It may require some extra
> programming in the phone switch, but it *is* doable.

Exactly.  Of course it can be done.  But Bell Atlantic wants out of
the toll alerting business.  All the local exchange carriers do.  And
they are using controversies like this as possibile opportunities to
extricate themselves from toll alerting.

> I suspect that many of the folks who are against "toll alerting" have
> never had to deal with equipment that dials numbers from a directory
> maintained elsewhere. With such a setup, you want the default to be
> trying to dial 7 digits if the exchange isn't explicitly listed in the
> translation table as a "local" prefix. That way you don't inadvertently
> make LD calls.

It depends on what your objective is.  If you want it to be cheap
above all other criteria, you want toll alerting.  If you want it to
be fast above all other criteria (all calls go through on the first
try), you don't want alerting.

For better or for worse, four states were converted to full
non-alerting during the 1994 preparation for interchangeable area
codes: PA, NY, CA and IL (some of these had partial alerting before).
Something like one third of all US phones are now non-toll-alerted.

> And trying to find out where an exchange that doesn't belong
> to your LEC is can be *very* frustrating ...

Some earlier posts on this Digest noted that in some areas (Illinois,
I think), the local Bell company is refusing to tell (even when asked)
whether any particular prefix belonging to a competitor is local or
toll.  Messy.


Greg Monti  Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
gmonti@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~gmonti

------------------------------

From: John McGing <jmcging@dm.net>
Subject: Re: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:01:44 -0400
Organization: DIGEX, Inc.


On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, The Old Bear wrote:

> This came to me from Robert Vroman <rvroman@SHELBY.NET> who 
> particiaptes in an Emergency Services Discussion List.  He says  
> original source was the {New York Times} web site on 10/2/97.

> I personally find this a worrysome idea.  It would seem that the 911
> staff should be able to better triage incoming calls.  I wonder what
> will happens when someone calls 3-1-1 because they only have a "small
> fire" or didn't want to call the regular 9-1-1 number because they
> were not absolutely sure they were having a heart attack.  The fact
> that Baltimore was dispatching emergency personnel to non-emergency
> situations sounds more like a staff training problem in their dispatch
> center than any kind of technological issue.

> 311 Takes Pressure Off Overburdened
> Emergency Phone System

Well, then you should try living in an area where to contact the police
ALL calls go through 911, meaning you get put on hold.  My inlaws live in
Baltimore, I live outside it.  They have had to contact 911 a few times
and got put on hold more than once.  

Now with 311, the call gets answered right away at 911 because those
non-emergency calls don't suck up the time of the 911 call center
personnel.  Can you imagine waiting on hold while the fire gets bigger
or the intruder is breaking the door while a call of lesser importance
is being serviced?

Where I used to live you called 911 even to report a lost cat.  And I
never got a good answer why I was sucking up the time and energy of
personnel who should be jumping on calls responding to real crimes, not
neighborhood concerns.

The point is that most reasonable people know if a call requires 911
or if it doesn't and by helping make 911 the number for emergencies,
everyone gets better service.

And even still, if you call 911 because of a cat in a tree, they still
take the call.  Might wish you used 311, but you still get service.


jmcging@dm.net <== New e-mail address
New web page at http://www.dm.net/~jmcging 
Soon to be inactive==>> http://www.access.digex.net/~jmcging



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In Chicago, the police tell people to
call 911 for everything. Even if you call for some non-emergency
matter and call direct to the station house, the people who answer 
there say if you want to talk to a police officer you need to dial
911 to get one dispatched. Meanwhile, the people who staff the 911
center constantly complain about how people call them for even the
most minor things and blame the citizens for abusing 911. So if you
call back to the station house they refer you right back to 911, etc. 
I wish they could get their act together.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Jeff Carter <jeffc@opengroup.org>
Subject: Re: Combining Analog Lines
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 11:25:01 -0400
Organization: The Open Software Foundation / The Open Group


Cameron Smith wrote:

> I live in a rural area where digital service is all but unavailable.
> We have, here on-island, an ISP who brings in a T-1 signal. In order
> to get that T-1 (or any fraction thereof) to my home, I would have to
> pay the telco a $1400 setup fee and over $1200 per month! Plus, of
> course, the connection fee to the ISP.

> The ISP, however, is willing to let me co-locate a machine on his
> premises.  What I can do is set up a standard analog line from that
> machine to my home with a couple of 56K modems. So far so good.

> What I *want* to do, however, is set up *two* analog lines with 56k
> modems and combine or concentrate them somehow. Something like this:

>                                                     --> 56K modem <-->
> Analog Line
>                                                    /
> -T1--> ISP <--Ethernet--> My Comp. <--> device <--<
>                            @ ISP                   \
>                                                     --> 56K modem <-->
> Analog Line
> 
>                       Analog Line <--> 56K modem <--
>                                                     \
>                                                      >--> device <--> My
> Computer
>                                                     /                  @
> home
>                       Analog Line <--> 56K modem <--
> 
> So what is the "device" that I need and what are some of the brand
> names?

If you're talking TCP/IP, you run PPP (point-to-point protocol) on
each of the two modem links, and use "Multilink PPP" channel bonding
to treat them as a single line between the local and remote computers. 

This is essentially the technique used by ISDN with two B channels at
56/64K each to get 112 or 128K aggregate. The technique is not limited
to ISDN, though.

I don't believe (but am willing to be corrected) that WinDoze directly
supports MLPPP, but most routers and unix-type systems would support
this.


Jeff Carter
Interware, Inc.
jeffc@shore.net

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 9 Oct 97 22:00:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 278

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    FCC Sets $0.28 as Kickback to Payphones For "Tollfree" Calls (P.Townson)
    Another Unverified Integretel Charge on Bill (Steve Kastner)
    Lucent G2 to G3 Upgrade Problems (Jim Hurley)
    TDMA = Terminate Departmental Manufacturing Assemblers (30K!) (B. Devine)
    Re: Question About PacBell SuperTrunk ANI (Fred R. Goldstein)
    Re: Question About PacBell SuperTrunk ANI (Jay R. Ashworth)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (John Stah)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (Bill Ranck)

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:40:08 EDT
From: Patrick Townson <editor@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: FCC Sets $0.28 as Kickback to Payphones For "Tollfree" Calls


FYI from the Associated Press late Thursday evening:
   
        Pay phone access fees to toll-free numbers fixed at 28 cents
                            By JEANNINE AVERSA 
                            The Associated Press
                          10/09/97 7:33 PM Eastern
                                      
   WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Communications Commission on Thursday
   set a new rate of 28 cents a call for long-distance companies to pay
   owners of pay phones for toll-free and access code services.
   
   The new, lower rate is effective immediately and will last for two
   years. It will apply only to companies that can't negotiate a rate
   with pay phone owners. The FCC's action does not affect local pay
   phone calls.
   
   A federal appeals court in June struck down the FCC's earlier rate of
   35 cents a call.
   
   It's unclear how pay phone customers ultimately will be affected
   because long-distance companies can recover these expenses in a
   variety of ways.
   
   But AT&T said customers' rates will go up and vowed to appeal the
   ruling.
   
   "We're extremely disappointed that the FCC is determined to grant pay
   phone operators an unjustified windfall at the expense of customers,"
   said Rick Bailey, AT&T's vice president of federal government affairs.
   
   AT&T said the new rate is too high and should be 12 cents a call.
   
   The appeals court had rejected the way the commission figured
   compensation for the 800 toll-free calls and access codes calls --
   when a caller dials an 11-digit code to reach his or her preferred
   long-distance company, thus bypassing the company that is providing
   service to the phone. The court said the commission hadn't adequately
   justified its rate of 35 cents a call and instructed the FCC to
   rewrite its rate rules.
   
   A 1996 telecommunications law required the FCC to ensure that AT&T,
   MCI, Sprint and other companies that supply long-distance service to
   pay phones fairly compensate pay phone owners for all calls.
   
   Various companies had suggested a wide range of rates -- from zero to
   63 cents a call, said a FCC attorney, speaking on condition of
   anonymity.
   
   The FCC said it arrived at the new rate by using the predominate rate
   for local pay phone calls in states that have deregulated rates -- 35
   cents a call -- and adjusting it for costs differences associated with
   long-distance calling.
   
   AT&T, Sprint and MCI had challenged the FCC's original rates in court.
   Sprint and MCI had no immediate comment on the FCC's action.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:54:44 -0600
From: Steve Kastner <aats4@airmail.net>
Reply-To: aats4@airmail.net
Organization: AAccess Technical Support
Subject: Another Unverified Integratel Charge on Bill


I got a new one for ya:

I got my phone bill and saw a charge on behalf of Integretel.  Having
never heard from them I called and was told that I was being billed by
them on behalf of Associated Transmissions for my own personal 800
number.  Well, I have never ordered an 800 number in my life.  I have
no need for one and have never heard of Integretel prior to getting
this bill.

I called 'em up and was connected (after about a ten minute wait) to
some insolent "customer service agent".  I explained to her my
situation.  I was then shocked to hear her say that if I did not want
to pay for the service I should not have ordered it.

The day that this order was apparently placed happened to be my
birthday and I remember that I was gone that whole weekend.  I was not
even home to place the order for the 800 number which they said was
traced to my phone number.

This went on for another ten minutes before she offered to cancel the
800 number service still leaving the charge for the line on my current
bill.  Well, I spent another ten minutes arguing with her about this
and finally flat out told her I wouldn't pay it and then asked to talk
to someone in authority.  I waited yet another ten minutes and finally
this customer service robot returned and said she would do a "one time
courtesy removal" of the charge.  In other words she is going to do me
a favor by not charging me for something I never asked for in the
first place.

On top of all this I was told that I could not even have the phone
number or address of this Associated Transmissions company.  They
couldn't even tell me what my 800 number was.  So apparently someone
either broke into my apartment on my birthday and called Associated
Transmissions to order me an 800 number or these guys are involved in
some big time fraud.  


Steve K.
skastner@rocketmail.com

------------------------------

From: Jim Hurley <hurls@world.std.com>
Subject: Lucent G2 to G3 Upgrade Problems
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 01:35:29 GMT
Reply-To: hurls@world.std.com
Organization: James Hurley & Associates


Hi all,

I support a piece of CPE equipment for a large Chicago hospital. They
are upgrading to a G3 switch. The first piece of equipment is the one
I support. It has a T1 interface to an IVR application. It runs fine
on the G2 using 'wink/wink' supervision. Lucent claims that they can't
configure the G3r to perform the same way. We get about 4 seconds of
dial tone on the line before the call is completely connected.

Lucent has not let me speak with anyone knowledgable about this switch
configuration. Can anyone help?


Jim Hurley (hurls@world.std.com)

------------------------------

From: sdmort@electriciti.com (Brian P. Devine)
Subject: TDMA = Terminate Departmental Manufacturing Assemblers (30K!)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 18:38:18 GMT
Organization: ElectriCiti, Inc.


I wonder if this explains the recent run-up of Qcomm stock ... I
recently came across an article that everyone may find quite
interesting: It's a translation of a piece written by Johan
Wallqvist, in the Swedish evening paper Expressen -- June 1, '97 --
about Ericsson and the mobile telephony industry:

Wallqvist states that 30,000 jobs can disappear when the new
technology takes over... Ericsson, Sweden'ss most successful company,
is one of the leaders in mobile telephony.  More and more experts are
now asking themselves: Has Ericsson gone for the wrong technique?

He goes on to say that Ericsson might have to close down more
factories ...  due to the fact that Ericsson is mainly investing in
another technique, TDMA, in their digital GSM telephones. Today more
and more commentators ask themselves: Has Ericsson made a catastrophic
decision, that in the long run will threaten tens of thousands of jobs
in Sweden?

Wallqvist points out that the newcomer in the arena, Qualcomm, in San
Diego, California, is challenging Ericsson with a CDMA system, which
they declare is better than Ericsson's GSM system. Qualcomm has less
than two million subscribers in their systems, to be compared with 20
million in digital GSM systems from Ericsson ... He explains that
Motorola, Philips, Siemens, Sony, Sharp, Samsung, Sanyo, and NEC are
all going to CDMA due to the fact that CDMA has got a better capacity
and is more economical.  You can cover a city with half as many
transmitting installations on the ground compared to what is needed
with GSM, Jack Scanlon, manager at Motorola explains.

Wallqvist ends the expose by answering the question: Is Qualcomm's
CDMA technology a serious threat against Ericsson? Yes, and we should
possibly make mobile phones for CDMA systems too.  But the governing
body of this concern has not taken any decision yet, says John Siberg,
in charge of Ericsson's mobile telephone division. Telia,
Sweden's number one telecom operator, also supports the CDMA
technology. CDMA is the technique for mobile phone systems of the
future.

GSM is out of date already, says Frank Arnoldsson at Telia.

The board of directors at Ericsson is aware of this, but won't say it in 
public until the year 2000.

E-Mail me for a copy of the article! pbdevine@aol.com

------------------------------

From: fgoldstein@bbn.NO$LUNCHMEAT.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Question About PacBell SuperTrunk ANI
Date: 9 Oct 1997 19:07:59 GMT
Organization: GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies


In article <telecom17.276.6@telecom-digest.org>, billdietrich@voiscorp.com 
says ...

> We just installed SuperTrunk (voice T1) service from PacBell, in the
> San Francisco Bay Area (Sunnyvale, CA).

> We thought we could get ANI (Caller ID) on this T1, but PacBell says
> they don't offer that service; you have to get Primary Rate ISDN to
> get ANI.

> I find this hard to believe; I thought one of the main uses of voice
> T1 was for 800 numbers, and ANI would be extremely common in that
> situation.

Most big-volume 800 numbers are delivered in PRI format.  The big IXCs
have had PRI for almost a decade, long before the Bells did.  In
practice, you can't get ANI on Channelized T1.  The CO has no way to
deliver it.  For DID incoming, there is a defined touch-tone protocol
for it, but there is none for non-PRI subscriber-loop ANI.  ANI is
normally sent on inter-CO trunks, using "Feature Group D" signaling,
but that uses "MF", not "DTMF" (touch-tone) tones, is rarely supported
in PBXs, and letting subscribers use it makes telcos edgey -- that's
what "Blue Boxes" used!  Theoretically they could negotiate a "special
assembly" of FGD/ANI but it wouldn't fall under the SuperTrunk tariff.

> Side note: they can't just type a command somewhere to change us from
> voice T1 to PRI; they have to un-install and re-install wiring, and
> charge us money.

Correct.  Channelized T1 just goes into a trunk port of the CO.  PRI
goes into the trunk port but also connects a Packet Handler port for
the D channel.

> Another side note: the monthly fee for PRI is LOWER than the monthly
> fee for voice T1 !  Seems backwards.

The FCC has ruled that a CT1 is subject to 24 subscriber line charges
($6 apiece and rising), while PRI is subject to 5 of them.  That often
tilts the numbers in favor of PRI.  From a strict cost viewpoint, PRI
costs telcos around $50-100/month more to provision, because of the
packet handler port.  Actual tariff prices go all over the place.


Fred R. Goldstein   k1io    fgoldstein"at"bbn.com
GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies, Cambridge MA USA  +1 617 873 3850
Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission.

------------------------------

From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: Question About PacBell SuperTrunk ANI
Date: 9 Oct 1997 20:34:09 GMT
Organization: Ashworth & Associates


On Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:45:34 -0700, William Dietrich
<billdietrich@voiscorp.com> wrote:

> We just installed SuperTrunk (voice T1) service from PacBell, in the
> San Francisco Bay Area (Sunnyvale, CA).
> We thought we could get ANI (Caller ID) on this T1, but PacBell says
> they don't offer that service; you have to get Primary Rate ISDN to
> get ANI.

Hmmm ...

> I find this hard to believe; I thought one of the main uses of voice
> T1 was for 800 numbers, and ANI would be extremely common in that
> situation.

This much is true.

> We do get incoming digits (after winking), but they are DID (last 4
> digits of our T1's phone number).

Aha.  The problem is that there's a limited amount of time available
there.  It may well be that they can't give you DNIS _and_ ANI on a
T-span at the same time: remember all the signalling is _analog_.

> Side note: they can't just type a command somewhere to change us from
> voice T1 to PRI; they have to un-install and re-install wiring, and
> charge us money.

Yeah; different line cards.

> Another side note: the monthly fee for PRI is LOWER than the monthly
> fee for voice T1 !  Seems backwards.

Switch.  It's worth it.  Just make _sure_ you get the name and number
of someone in their switch department who understands ISDN
translations.

> Can anyone tell me if my PacBell representative is right or wrong?
> Is it possible to get ANI on a PacBell SuperTrunk?

I'm speculating, of course, but no doubt, someone else will know for
sure.  If you can terminate a PRI into your switch, though, it's worth
the change over fees, more than likely.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                                jra@baylink.com
Member of the Technical Staff             Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued
The Suncoast Freenet      "People propose, science studies, technology
Tampa Bay, Florida          conforms."  -- Dr. Don Norman      +1 813 790 7592

------------------------------

From: aljon@worldnet.att.net (John Stahl)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:23:58 +0000


The latest from Nortel has startled the ILEC's (and probably a whole
lot of others in the business) with the announcement of Internet
service over the electrical power grid. Several with whom I've talked
with (I travel around to the Independent Telcos in the Northeast US),
have already contacted Nortel to find out what they have to offer as
sort of a defensive mechanism.  After all, if DATA can be sent via the
power lines, can VOICE be far behind?

I can think of one CLEC who probably is right in the (potential)
middle of it: RCN (the new CLEC break-off from CTEC - who owns
Commonwealth Telephone in PA). They have reportedly signed agreements
with Boston Edison and Potomac Electric to "partner-up" to supply
local telephone service. I'm sure that they will review their
agreements before Nortel gets to their partners!

There appeared (10/9/97) from Reuters News Service, another view of
this potentially revolutionary transmission idea. It tells a bit more
about the methodology and the probable costs:

             ----------------------

   - - - Coming Soon: Net Access Through Power Lines - - -
by Reuters   October 8, 1997

"Canada's Northern Telecom (Nortel) and Britain's Norweb
Communications today unveiled new technology allowing reliable,
low-cost, high-speed access to the Internet through the domestic
electricity supply. 

In a move heralding the first competition between electricity companies
and telecommunications carriers, the two groups said their patented
technology would allow power firms to convert their infrastructures
into information access networks. 

Having reduced electrical interference on power lines, the companies
said they could shunt data -- and possibly voice -- over power lines
into the home at up to 1MB per second.

This is up to ten times faster than ISDN, the fastest currently available
speed for domestic computer users. Although it is slower than rival
ADSL technology being developed by British Telecommunications,
which upgrades copper wires, Norweb and Nortel's technology is much
cheaper for operators to install. 

All consumers need is the equipment developed by Nortel and Norweb --
an extra card for personal computers, some software to handle
subscription, security, and authentication services, and a small box
that is installed next to the electricity meter.

This will send and receive data and is in turn linked to a personal
computer through an ordinary coaxial cable. 
Peter Dudley, vice president of Nortel, said the groups had an
"absolutely spectacular" amount of interest from electricity companies
in Britain and abroad that are keen to offer the service to consumers.

"The race is on to be first," he told Reuters.  Prices will be set by
electricity companies that offer the service. But consumers currently
spend an average of 20 to 30 pounds ($48.60) per month for Internet
access -- and the new service offers permanent access without
telephone costs.

"Assuming they continue to spend at that rate, it is not unreasonable
to assume that is the kind of tariffing that may be submitted," Dudley
said.

The Canadian telecoms equipment maker, and Norweb, part of England's
multiutility United Utilities, said their technology was fast enough
for most future domestic or small office applications and was cost
effective enough to allow operators returns on investments.  "As one
of the first practical, low cost answers to the problem of high speed
access to the Internet, this technology will unleash the next wave of
growth," Dudley said.

The two companies have developed a "specialized signaling scheme" that
allows them to carry data traffic between local power substations and
homes, effectively turning the electricity supply into a
communications network. Each substation is then linked by fiber-optic
circuits to a central switch -- and from there into the worldwide
computer network.

After 18 months of refining and upgrading a prototype and promising
"oodles of bandwidth," the companies said they planned to market the
technology in Europe and the Asia Pacific region. 
"We are ready to ship in volume," said Ian Vance, vice president and
chief scientist at Nortel Europe. 

Banking on high growth and good economic returns, Norweb hopes to
attract around 200 customers in a marketing pilot in northwestern
England in the second quarter of 1998 before rolling out the service."

                    --------------------

You note that their plans seem to not include the US market -- wanna bet?
Notice the statement about bandwidth -- will they stop at data? How about
video and voice and who knows what else?

Time will tell but you can bet if the system is competitive, they will
push it everywhere for every 'service' - voice, data, video,
etc. Here's a real potential competition to all the markets: telephone
and CATV. After all, everyone has electrical lines connected to their
homes and businesses.


John Stahl
Aljon Enterprises
Telecommunications and Data System Consultants
email: aljon@worldnet.att.net

------------------------------

From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Bill Ranck)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Date: 9 Oct 1997 19:52:44 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia


TELECOM Digest Editor (editor@telecom-digest.org) wrote:

> Electric Outlets Could Be Link To the Internet 
> By Gautam Naik  The Wall Street Journal  10/07/97 

> LONDON -- Engineers claim to have developed a breakthrough technology
> that would let homeowners make phone calls and access the Internet at
> high speeds via the electric outlets in their walls. 

Hmmm, let's see what kind of data rates and how do they get by
the local tranformers?

<snip>

> high-speed access. And for the new system to be commercially
> feasible, a power utility would have to sign up 40% or more of homes
> and offices in a particular neighborhood, Mr. Henderson says. 

Ah ha!  Looks like they need to install some fairly expensive gadget
to bridge the signal around the neighborhood transformer.  Still,
this isn't a show-stopper.  Economies of scale should bring the 
price per tranformer down. 

> While electric lines have been used before to zap tiny amounts of
> data between computers, their capacity has always been limited,
> making commercial applications unfeasible. Now United Utilities'
> telecom arm, Norweb Communications, has found a way to transmit data
> at a speed of more than 384 kilobits per second over regular
> electricity lines -- more than 10 times the speed of Internet modems
> used by most households with regular telephone lines. 

Sounds impressive until one thinks about dividing that bandwidth up
among x voice cicuits plus y data circuits.  One medium busy Web
server in a neighborhood could impact 384Kbit when added on top of
some digitized voice traffic it seems to me.

I'm somewhat skeptical about how well this will scale up.  Of course
10 or 15 years ago I didn't think I would ever see regular voice grade
phone lines carrying more than about 2400 BPS, so maybe they have
something.  I hope it works out, because I don't have much faith in
the concept of cable-TV "cable modems."  I've seen that technology in
the past and it did not scale up well at all.


Bill Ranck                +1-540-231-3951                    ranck@vt.edu
   Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, Computing Center   

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    Another Failure of the Telecom Act (Marty Tennant)
    Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts (Linc Madison)
    311 vs 911 in MA (Peter Simpson)
    Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll (Al Varney)
    Re: WhoWhere Announcement (Andrew Olechny)
    Re: GTE InTRA-LATA 101-XXXX+ Carrier-ID Codes (Jack Decker)
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From: Marty Tennant <marty@sccoast.net>
Subject: Another Failure of the Telecom Act 
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:51:55 -0400


 From Telecom A.M., Oct. 10, 1997

FCC SAYS STATES DON'T HAVE TO ARBITRATE DISPUTES FOR UNAUTHORIZED
CLECS

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has ruled that state
commissions are under no legal obligation to arbitrate local
interconnection disputes involving a competitive local exchange
carrier (CLEC) that hasn't been authorized to do business in the
state.

On that basis, the FCC denied petitions filed in August by Low Tech
Designs Inc., in which the CLEC asked the FCC to assume jurisdiction
over arbitrations by the Georgia, Illinois, and South Carolina
commissions on grounds that the state commissions had failed to act on
Low Tech's arbitration requests as required by Section 252 of the
Telecommunications Act of 1996.

But the FCC determined that the states had fulfilled their statutory
responsibilities when they ruled, within the prescribed time limits,
that Low Tech lacked legal standing to petition for state arbitration
because it hadn't received the required state certifications author-
izing the company to provide local services.  

                        ---------------

The FCC's refusal to assume responsibility for the arbitrations that
my company sought, after legally entering into negotiations with three
ILECs as a requesting telecommunications carrier, is another failure
to act, adding insult to injury.

The FCC's own rules state that it would be a violation of an ILEC's
duty to negotiate in good faith for that ILEC to condition
negotiations upon a requesting telecommunications carrier first
obtaining State certifications (Duty to Negotiate- 47 CFR 51.301(c)(4)).

Since arbitration is the legal remedy for failed negotiation, the FCC
has taken a mighty duck at enforcing their own rules.  If a new
entrant requests negotiations with an ILEC prior to obtaining state
certification, as the law allows, the ILEC would know beforehand that
the failure of the negotiations wouldn't lead to arbitration, assuming
the new entrant doesn't file for certification before or during the
negotiations.  This obviates the intent of the FCC rule and encourages
halfhearted negotiations.

If a requesting telecommunications carrier doesn't have to be
certified by a state in order to negotiate with an ILEC, by the same
token, aribitration with the same ILEC must not be conditioned upon
State certification.  The FCC has refused to enforce their own rules,
and in doing so has shown another example of the failure of the 1996
Act.

The fallout of this ruling, if left to stand, is that small entities,
such as LTD, must first jump thru state certification regulatory hoops
before they are on a firm legal basis to engage an ILEC in negotiations. 
This is exactly what the above FCC rule was written to avoid.

This FCC interpretation has several Catch-22's built into it.  In the
case of Georgia, their state law allows up to 180 days for the
Commission to rule on a certification request.  Since you must file
for arbitration within 135 to 160 days after the start of
interconnection negotiations, you are presented with an unwarranted
timing issue that has the effect of retarding entry and negotiations
with ILEC's.  When do you start negotiations with the ILEC in Georgia?
After you file for certification?  After you receive certification?
45 days after filing for certification??  Of course, all this
speculation is absurd.  You can start negotiations any time you are
ready to start them.  This is the law!!!

LTD argued that small entities, particularly ones with entreprenuerial
concepts, and with little capital and resources for expensive legal
fees, must not be saddled with unnecessary regulatory hurdles to jump
thru.  The proper sequence of entry events should be:

1.  Engage an ILEC into negotiations as a requesting telecommunications
     carrier.
2.  If, after 135 days, you can't agree on an interconnection agreement,
     file for arbitration.
3.  Arbitrate and hope that you get what you are looking for.
4.  If you do, use this success to attact capital for your business plan.
5.  File for state certification.
6.  File tariffs.
7.  Offer services to the public.

In the case of LTD, we also argued that until an arbitration was held,
and the conditions sought were obtained, LTD did not have the basis
for putting together a complete business plan that would result in the
need for state certification.

Since the law was suppose to allow entry by any entity, remove
barriers to entry, and promote competition, the FCC's ruling in my
company's case resurrects the same old barriers that were suppose to
come tumbling down.

LTD engaged BellSouth, GTE and Ameritech in negotiations back in
August of 1996.  Over a year later, LTD is no closer to entry than it
was when it started.  The FCC rules have not been enforced, and the
FCC has refused to stand up for the rights of new entrant requesting
telecommunications carriers to enter this market in the most logical
and efficient manner possible.

So much for the entreprenuerial spirit being alive and well in
telecommunications.  So much for the law.  So much for an FCC
interested in new entrants challenging the old monopolists.

LTD will challenge the FCC ruling, and is seeking support from public
interest groups that are interested in seeing this abuse of the law
remedied.


marty tennant - president - low tech designs, inc.(tm)
"Bringing Technology Down to Earth"(sm)
1204 Saville St., Georgetown, SC 29440
803 527-4485 voice / 803 527-7783 fax

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Toll Alerting in Massachusetts
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 23:35:52 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom17.277.7@telecom-digest.org>, Greg Monti
<gmonti@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> I suspect that many of the folks who are against "toll alerting" have
>> never had to deal with equipment that dials numbers from a directory
>> maintained elsewhere. With such a setup, you want the default to be
>> trying to dial 7 digits if the exchange isn't explicitly listed in the
>> translation table as a "local" prefix. That way you don't inadvertently
>> make LD calls.

> It depends on what your objective is.  If you want it to be cheap
> above all other criteria, you want toll alerting.  If you want it to
> be fast above all other criteria (all calls go through on the first
> try), you don't want alerting.

Nonsense.  Full toll alerting does not interfere in the least with
having all calls go through on the first try.  There is nothing in
full toll alerting that forbids dialing 1+ on a local call.  Full toll
alerting only means that 1+ is required on toll calls, not that it is
forbidden on non-toll calls.

Why are there so many idiot states that forbid dialing 1+ on local
calls?  There is absolutely no justification for it, under any
circumstances.  Once upon a time, some old switches would bill toll
charges for a local call that was dialed 1+, but that doesn't happen
any more.  Any switch now in service can reasonably be required by law
to no-bill a local call even if it's dialed with 1+.

All states should immediately *PERMIT* any call to be dialed as 1+10D,
irrespective of area code or toll status, irrespective of whether the
state has full or partial or no toll alerting.

> For better or for worse, four states were converted to full
> non-alerting during the 1994 preparation for interchangeable area
> codes: PA, NY, CA and IL (some of these had partial alerting before).
> Something like one third of all US phones are now non-toll-alerted.

With very few isolated exceptions, California has always been full
non-alerting.  There were even pathological examples where techs
programmed the switches to forbid 1+ even on FNPA toll calls, because
the Official Instructions said to dial 7D for all calls in the same
area code, or 10D for all calls in any other area code.

>> And trying to find out where an exchange that doesn't belong
>> to your LEC is can be *very* frustrating ...

> Some earlier posts on this Digest noted that in some areas (Illinois,
> I think), the local Bell company is refusing to tell (even when asked)
> whether any particular prefix belonging to a competitor is local or
> toll.  Messy.

Also illegal and a breach of tariffs and/or contract.  The local Bell
company is required to tell you what its charges are if you use its
service to call a given number, whether that number terminates on
their own network or a competitor's.


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
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From: Peter_Simpson@3com.com (Peter Simpson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:34:32 -0400
Subject: 311 vs 911 in MA


I live in suburban eastern MA.  The 311 idea hasn't hit here
yet (hey, we're hardly used to 508 and it's time to split again).

It seems that when 911 came in, the Police stopped "advertising" their
regular number.  There was an informal standard around here that not
all towns followed, but police was usually NXX-1212 and fire was
usually NXX-2323.  There was usually only one prefix per town, so you
(almost) always knew the emergency numbers without having to look them
up.  Sort of an early version of 911.

Anyway, these numbers used to be listed in the front of the phone
book, and also inside, under the town listing for police, usually in
big bold print.  Underneath that listing was usually a "business" or
"non-emergency" number.

Well, when 911 came in, all that was history.  When you look up the
police, there's only one number, a big "911".  No alternatives.  If I
didn't know the old "1212" standard, and the earliest issued NXX
prefix (most towns now have two, three or more!)  I wouldn't have an
alternative but to call 911 and waste someone's time.

As it is, I call the 1212 number, tell the person answering that this
isn't an emergency, and take care of my business.  Why these
"alternate" numbers are no longer published is a mystery to me.


Peter

------------------------------

From: varney@ihgp2.ih.lucent.com (Al Varney)
Subject: Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll
Date: 10 Oct 1997 13:01:38 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies, Naperville, IL
Reply-To: varney@lucent.com


In article <telecom17.277.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jack Decker
<jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com> wrote:

> Where GTE really falls down is in their customer service - it is still
> very difficult to get a correct answer about anything without jumping
> through a lot of hoops (trying to find the correct 101XXXX code for
> GTE's intraLATA toll is a perfect example; even their "Action Line"
> couldn't seem to pry this bit of information loose from the switch
> technicians.

 ....

> The thing that I am curious about is this: As I understand it (and
> feel free to correct me if I am wrong), if you do not have GTE as your
> default toll carrier, they have to load a PIC code into the switch for
> your preferred carrier.  And it is possible to have NO default toll
> carrier (both interLATA and intraLATA), in which case no toll call
> will go through unless you dial an access code first.  So, it would
> seem that there MUST be a code for GTE intraLATA toll, that would be
                  ^^^^
                 not true, see below

> the default code used in the switch if you don't ask for another
> carrier or specify that you don't want a default carrier.  I would
> guess that the switch technicians know what that code is, but
> apparently they aren't telling!

Switches generally implement two levels of routing.  One is based on
dialed digits only -- no carrier code is needed or used.  The other is
routing based on carrier code.  Dialed digit analysis can trigger
carrier routing (using an interLATA or intraLATA PIC), or the customer
can force it with a Carrier Access Code (CAC=101XXXX).  In the latter
case, digit analysis will screen the call for valid digits, a type
(intraLATA, etc.)  and other attributes before deciding to honor the
CAC, block the call or even ignore the CAC.  [For example, 10XXXX-911
will ignore the CAC.]

The implementation varies between switches, but in general there need
NOT be a dialable intraLATA Carrier Access Code for the "LEC".  When
the "intraLATA Toll Presubscription" capability is first turned on, no
per-line data changes in the switch.  The ABSENCE of an "intraLATA
PIC" assignment on a line (initially true for all lines) implies "use
non-carrier routing", that is, route based on just the dialed digits.

It is possible to set a line to "no intraLATA Presubscribed Carrier",
but that's a special setting of the intraLATA PIC, not the absence of
an intraLATA PIC.  In addition, even when a LEC assigns itself an XXXX
code, it is possible to indicate "not dialable" as an attribute of the
XXXX code.  (Some IXCs don't want casual-dialed calls, only
pre-subscribed.)

Thus it MAY BE that GTE just doesn't know its own XXXX code.  Or, more
likely, they have no XXXX code or a non-dialable XXXX code.  That
would allow them to say, in effect: "If you want to have some other
carrier carry your Toll calls, fine.  But don't plan on using me for
such calls ever again.  I don't want casual customers."

An alternative would be to have an XXXX code, and indicate casual-calling 
(when you are not pre-subscribed to the LEC) will incur an extra
$5/month billing charge for the first use in any month.  But that
probably requires PUC hearings, etc.  So far as I know, no PUC that
orders IntraLATA Toll Presubscription also orders the LEC to have an
XXXX code and accept casual dialing of Toll calls.  Ameritech probably
does it because they feel there is more profit from casual calls (in
spite of the overhead) than from the customers that might keep
Ameritech for intraLATA Toll only because they know they can't
casual-dial them.


Al Varney - just my opinion

------------------------------

From: ccoprao@acmex.gatech.edu (Andrew Olechny)
Subject: Re: WhoWhere Announcement
Date: 10 Oct 1997 08:28:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


TELECOM Digest Editor asked where to find the new Internet Directory
Assistance web page. Go to: http://www.whowhere.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:32:48 -0400
From: Jack Decker <jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com>
Subject: Re: GTE InTRA-LATA 101-XXXX+ Carrier-ID Codes


At 04:09 PM 10/10/97 -0500, Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

> Again, from the FCC's website regarding US/NANP numbering/dialing info,
> (and some people have emailed me asking me about the particular URL at
> the FCC's site, which I will give further down), the following "CICs"
> (Carrier Identification/Access Codes) assigned to GTE are as follows:

> 101-5249+
> GTE Telephone Operations
> (could THIS be inTRA-LATA GTE as an incumbent LEC?)

"We're sorry, your call cannot be completed as dialed ..." (after dialing
just the PIC code).

> 101-5483+

101-5483+0 yields dial tone spurt followed by "WilTel".  That is the
company that I could not recall that provides GTE's long distance.

> and 101-6224+
> GTE Card Services dba GTE Long Distance
> (I think this is for GTE-marketed "prepaid" cards, which is most likely
> a resale of some other toll [usually inTER-LATA] carrier)

"We're sorry, your call cannot be completed as dialed ..." (after dialing
just the PIC code).

> 101-5448+
> GTE Internal Telecommunications Services
> (I have no idea what they intend this code for)

"We're sorry, your call cannot be completed as dialed ..." (after dialing
just the PIC code).

> Have you asked a GTE (single) '0' Operator what GTE's inTRA-LATA toll
> access code is, for such calls in your case?

Yes.  She had no idea what I was talking about.

> Also, when you told GTE
> that you were going to change from GTE (in association with Ameritech)
> to someone else for your primary inTRA-LATA toll carrier, had you ever
> received any documentation (ballot? list of carrier choices?) from GTE?

No, they were not required by the Michigan Public Service Commission
to provide balloting for intraLATA toll, so of course they didn't.
However, there was publicity in the local news media when intraLATA
toll competition became available, and I think I recall seeing a
printed notice on the bill to the effect that you could choose a
carrier of intraLATA toll when it became available in my exchange.  I
think the thought was that the carriers would probably solicit their
own interLATA toll customers to switch to them for intraLATA toll,
thus why should the LEC spend the money to send out ballots?

> Also, what is the 101-XXXX+ "CIC" code that GTE has told you to use (the
> one which seems to route you to some _other_ carrier that GTE is
> reselling)? I _guess_ that it is the 101-5483+ listed above as the "GTE
> Card Services dba GTE Long Distance". Note that the 483 spells out GTE!

Correct, and that is the one that goes to "WilTel."

> One thing you might do to verify the GTE 101-XXXX+ codes listed above to
> see if any of them are actually able to route to GTE local and
> inTRA-LATA toll is to dial 101-XXXX+0(#/0), and see if you get the same
> operator as your GTE local single '0' operator.

That's exactly how I've been testing the various codes that have been
suggested.  Only the 101-5483 code gives me anything other than the
local switch recording saying that my call cannot be completed as
dialed, and as I have noted, that goes to WilTel.


Jack

------------------------------

From: Chris Moffett <Moffett.Chris@MFSDatanet.COM>
Subject: Last Laugh! Stop the Phones!
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:13:00 -0400


This may give everyone a little smile. The copyright information is at
the bottom.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, we have run this story here
at least a couple times previously over the past few years, and I do
not recall them getting copyright okay from me <g> but I'll include 
theirs none the less. The story on the one hand is funny, but at 
the same time sort of sad. It is one thing, I suppose, to mess up the
reservations for a corporate meeting, but quite another to cause a
miserable mess for a young couple on their wedding day -- what should
be a happy time for them. Anyway, here we go again ...   PAT]


 From: Just4laughs@USA.Net
 To: Just4Laughs@USA.Net
 Subject: Stop the Phones!
 Date: Thursday, October 09, 1997 20:07

Stop the Phones!

Phone Won't Stop Ringing? Here's What You Do

Leola Starling of Ribrock, Tenn., had a serious telephone problem.
But unlike most people she did something about it.

The brand-new $10 million Ribrock Plaza Motel opened nearby and had
acquired almost the same telephone number as Leola.

 From the moment the motel opened, Leola was besieged by calls not for
her. Since she had the same phone number for years, she felt that she
had a case to persuade the motel management to change its number.

Naturally, the management refused claiming that it could not change
its stationery.

The phone company was not helpful, either. A number was a number, and
just because a customer was getting someone else's calls 24 hours a
day didn't make it responsible. After her pleas fell on deaf ears,
Leola decided to take matters into her own hands.

At 9 o'clock the phone rang. Someone from Memphis was calling the
motel and asked for a room for the following Tuesday. Leoloa said,
"No problem.  How many nights?"

A few hours later Dallas checked in. A secretary wanted a suite with
two bedrooms for a week. Emboldened, Leola said the Presidential
Suite on the 10th floor was available for $600 a night. The secretary
said that she would take it and asked if the hotel wanted a deposit.
"No, that won't be necessary," Leola said. "We trust you."

The next day was a busy one for Leola. In the morning, she booked an
electric appliance manufacturers' convention for Memorial Day
weekend, a college prom and a reunion of the 82nd Airborne veterans
from World War II.

She turned on her answering machine during lunchtime so that she
could watch the O.J. Simpson trial, but her biggest challenge came in
the afternoon when a mother called to book the ballroom for her
daughter's wedding in June.

Leola assured the woman that it would be no problem and asked if she
would be providing the flowers or did she want the hotel to take care
of it. The mother said that she would prefer the hotel to handle the
floral arrangements. Then the question of valet parking came up.

Once again Leola was helpful. "There's no charge for valet parking,
but we always recomend that the client tips the drivers."

Within a few months, the Ribrock Plaza Motel was a disaster area.

People kept showing up for weddings, bar mitzvahs, and Sweet Sixteen
parties and were all told there were no such events.

Leola had her final revenge when she read in the local paper that
the motel might go bankrupt. Her phone rang, and an executive from
Marriott said, "We're prepared to offer you $200,000 for the motel."

Leola replied. "We'll take it, but only if you change the telephone
number."

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:04:00 +0100
From: Michael Hartley <MHARTLEY@one2one.co.uk>
Subject: One More Laugh! The Latest World Com Press Release


<Grins!>
<...>
(API - MoneyWire)

WorldCom Inc., of Jackson, Mississippi, has issued a press release
confirming recent reports of it's latest blockbuster takeover. John
Sidgmore, WorldCom Chief Operating Officer, has announced that a
definitive agreement has been reached. The agreement calls for a
combination of cash payment and stock swap (Tuesday's close: 35 3/8)
of truly behemoth proportions. 

In what is being hailed as possibly the largest corporate acquisition
in history, WorldCom has revised it's previous offer and will pay $30
billion and offer another $100 billion in stock in exchange for
England. England is strongly expected to approve the measure. 

Bernie Ebbers has been quoted as stating "While we were in a buying
frenzy I thought that England would provide an excellent launching pad
for our new European expansion plans. I thought it would be neat to
buy a country".  When asked about the incredible press coverage the
announcement had created Ebbers response was "It's really not that big
of a country, I can't understand what all of the fuss is about".

WorldCom's Chief Financial Officer, has stated that no layoffs
of English citizens are expected as result of the addition of England
to WorldCom's portfolio. This does not include the Royal Family. John
Sidgmore has confirmed that the U.K. will definitely be broken up.

Ireland's stock has risen 7 points on the Tokyo exchange to a new high
at 23 5/8 as a result of the announcement. It has been reported that
Prince Charles will not be offered a position with the newly combined
entity. He has reportedly forwarded his resume to Holland.  Reports
are flying that Holland is in the market to pick up a reduced price
Prince. The Royal English Navy will now be based in Gulfport, Miss-
issippi and will be renamed "The Group of Them Big Ole Boats With
Guns", GTBOB. 

Mr. Ebbers has issued his first corporate directive including England,
instructing that all English citizens are to quit speaking in that
funny accent.  The current English flag will be retired and replaced
with the confederate flag. The companies press release states "We
believe this acquisition is an important strategic opportunity for our
company to meet the challenge of owning the world, and providing to
our shareholders the highest return possible".  

In a related announcement, Bernie Ebbers has announced that Greenwich
Mean Time will be shifted to put it in alignment with Jackson, MS
(Central Standard Time).  The International Date Line will move as a
result of the change. The name of "Greenwich Mean Time" will be
changed to "Ole' Miss Time". GMT will now be abbreviated OMT. The
Campus of Ole' Miss has replaced London as the capitol of England.

           ********************************************
(MoneyWire is a bogus production of Ludicrous Announcements Inc.)

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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 11 Oct 97 21:25:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 280

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    GTE InTRA-LATA 101-XXXX+ Carrier-ID Codes (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Chicago Non-Emergency (was: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service) (Adam H. Kerman)
    Phone Firms Get OK to Pool Bad Payment Data (Lisa Hancock)
    Payphone Prices Going Up (Linc Madison)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (John Nagle)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (Ed Ellers)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (H. Peter Anvin)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (Darrell Greenwood)
    Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link (John B. Hines)
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From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: GTE InTRA-LATA 101-XXXX+ Carrier-ID Codes
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:09:13 -0500
Organization: Tulane University


Jack Decker wrote:

> Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

>> Ameritech does have some 101-XXXX codes, which _might_ happen to be
>> dialable for intra-LATA calls from those GTE central offices. The
>> following 101-XXXX+ codes are assigned to Ameritech, according to the
>> FCC's latest list of US/NANP numbering/dialing information:

>> 101-5475+, 101-5606+, 101-6123+; and for Ameritech's "Long-Distance"

>> (future inTER-LATA toll? Ameritech's Cellular inTER-LATA toll?) there
>> is 101-0113+ (10-113+ in the older/shorter, soon to be obsolete format).

> None of these work here - after dialing the code it immediately cuts
> to an "I'm sorry, your call cannot be completed as dialed" recording.
> Except for a very short period of time a few years back when GTE
> experimented with letting Ameritech handle their toll calls, Ameritech
> toll has never been accessible from GTE exchanges (at least not in
> this area, although I think there were a few geographically isolated
> GTE exchanges that have always connected to Ameritech for toll).

> The thing that I am curious about is this: As I understand it (and
> feel free to correct me if I am wrong), if you do not have GTE as your

> default toll carrier, they have to load a PIC code into the switch for
> your preferred carrier.  And it is possible to have NO default toll
> carrier (both interLATA and intraLATA), in which case no toll call
> will go through unless you dial an access code first.  So, it would
> seem that there MUST be a code for GTE intraLATA toll, that would be
> the default code used in the switch if you don't ask for another
> carrier or specify that you don't want a default carrier.  I would
> guess that the switch technicians know what that code is, but
> apparently they aren't telling!

Again, from the FCC's website regarding US/NANP numbering/dialing
info, (and some people have emailed me asking me about the particular
URL at the FCC's site, which I will give further down), the following
"CICs" (Carrier Identification/Access Codes) assigned to GTE are as
follows:

101-5249+
GTE Telephone Operations
(could THIS be inTRA-LATA GTE as an incumbent LEC?)

101-5483+ and 101-6224+
GTE Card Services dba GTE Long Distance
(I think this is for GTE-marketed "prepaid" cards, which is most likely
a resale of some other toll [usually inTER-LATA] carrier)

101-5448+
GTE Internal Telecommunications Services
(I have no idea what they intend this code for)

Also, even though you have someone else as your primary inTRA-LATA toll
carrier (since Michigan probably allows this now), and I am guessing
that you chose MCI since you mention them in an earlier post for your
primary inTER-LATA choice, when you dial (single) '0', I assume that you
are getting a GTE Telco Operator for 'local' assistance (rather than
Ameritech). She _might_ probably be able to assist you on inTRA-LATA
toll calls (although probably at Operator assisted rates, unless you
indicate a 'trouble' condition).

Have you asked a GTE (single) '0' Operator what GTE's inTRA-LATA toll
access code is, for such calls in your case? Also, when you told GTE
that you were going to change from GTE (in association with Ameritech)
to someone else for your primary inTRA-LATA toll carrier, had you ever
received any documentation (ballot? list of carrier choices?) from
GTE?

Also, what is the 101-XXXX+ "CIC" code that GTE has told you to use (the
one which seems to route you to some _other_ carrier that GTE is
reselling)? I _guess_ that it is the 101-5483+ listed above as the "GTE
Card Services dba GTE Long Distance". Note that the 483 spells out GTE!

One thing you might do to verify the GTE 101-XXXX+ codes listed above to
see if any of them are actually able to route to GTE local and
inTRA-LATA toll is to dial 101-XXXX+0(#/0), and see if you get the same
operator as your GTE local single '0' operator. I know that BellSouth's
"CIC" for inTRA-LATA (and it does work work in Louisiana, even though we
can't yet choose someone other than BellSouth for _primary_ inTRA-LATA
toll, although we _can_ dial 10[1X]XXX+ codes of other carriers) toll is
101-5124+. Dialing 101-5124-0(#/0) routes to the _same_ BellSouth
inTRA-LATA "TOPS" operator/card services as dialing single '0' does.
Where private COCOT payphones allow the longer "CIC" 101-XXXX+ codes, I
use BellSouth's 101-5124+0+ten-digits-local to place "coinless" local
calls billed to card. It can be cheaper than using coins at the COCOTs.
I also avoid using the COCOT company's chosen A/O/Sleaze entity's
overpriced card/operator rates. And BTW, internal-chip COCOT payphones
and A/O/Slime now includes BellSouth's public phone subsidiary, with
their COCOT-like phones and their expensive A/O/Slime, "Tel-(dis)Trust".

While your toll calls, within your LATA, GTE-to-GTE don't even seem to
route via an Ameritech tandem, toll calls to an Ameritech area in your
LATA do have to route via the Ameritech inTRA-LATA tandem, _unless_ the
GTE inTRA-LATA tandem which serves your GTE local exchange also happens
to have direct trunkings to Ameritech's local central offices.

I'm going to have to check my outdated (circa 1990/91) edition of the
LERG, volume 3 (Ameritech LATAs) to verify this, though.

Please let us know about these GTE "CIC-codes" - do they properly work
from your area, what the GTE '0' operator tells you, and check for any
documentation or ballot, etc.

Now, for the info on the FCC's numbering/dialing info page:

It's called the "FCC-State-Link" part of their website, under the
Common-Carrier Bureau Industry Analysis Reports:

www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Reports/FCC-State_Link/fcc-link.html
 scroll down to "Telephone Numbering Facts"

www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Reports/FCC-State_Link/number.html
 There are several files there ... the most recent being in Adobe Acrobat
(.pdf), and some older .zip files which when 'unzipped' are spreadsheets
in Lotus .wk3 format and text in WordPerfect 5.1 format.

NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Class-5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-)
NWORLAIYCM1 (BellSouth-Mobility Hughes-GMH-2000 Cellular-MTSO NOL)
NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 fg-B/C/D Accss-Tandem "Main" 504+)
NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:Opr-Srvcs-Tandem "Main" 504+053+)
NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+)
JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121)

MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:52:26 CDT
From: Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.chinet.com>
Subject: Chicago Non-Emergency (was: Baltimore's 3-1-1 Service)


In article <telecom17.277.8@telecom-digest.org>, TELECOM Digest Editor
noted: 

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In Chicago, the police tell people to
> call 911 for everything. Even if you call for some non-emergency
> matter and call direct to the station house, the people who answer 
> there say if you want to talk to a police officer you need to dial
> 911 to get one dispatched. Meanwhile, the people who staff the 911
> center constantly complain about how people call them for even the
> most minor things and blame the citizens for abusing 911. So if you
> call back to the station house they refer you right back to 911, etc. 
> I wish they could get their act together.   PAT]

Correction, Pat. Chicago DOES have non-emergency numbers: police 312
746-6000; fire 312 744-6666.

It has NOT been my experience to have been referred to the 911
emergency call center by my local police district. When my Network
Interface box on the outside of my apartment building was broken into,
I called my local police district (the one that used to be
Summerdale!). The desk sergeant wouldn't take my complaint, and told
me to call the police non-emergency number. And, no, he couldn't
transfer my call, despite the vast amount of money that the City has
spent over the years for a private network serving all city agencies,
libraries, and park district offices.

I was able to make a "criminal damage to property" complaint right
over the phone (my lock was broken), and would have been able to make
a "theft of services" complaint if I'd later discovered billing
irregularities.

You CANNOT make complaints over the phone to the 911 call center.

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Phone Firms Get OK to Pool Bad Payment Data
Date: 11 Oct 1997 03:54:07 GMT
Organization: Net Access BBS


The {Philadelphia Inquirer} reported that:

The U.S. Justice Department gave phone companies permission recently
to compile and exchange information on people who don't pay their long
distance bills.

AT&T, MCI, Sprint and other companies would supply such information to
an independent clearinghouse.  The companies would then go to the
clearinghouse to find out whether a potential customer has defaulted
on long distance charges.

Neither the Justice Department nor individual phone company
representatives had industrywide information on how much money is lost
in unpaid long distance bills.

[There was nothing mentioned about protection for consumers from
inaccurate/erroneous information getting into this central database.]

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Payphone Prices Going Up
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:47:45 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


I was at the grocery store on Tuesday, picking up a few items for a
friend who is sick in bed.  I ran into a few unanticipated options in
selecting the items he requested, so I figured the easiest thing to do
was to call and inquire whether he wanted his applesauce with or
without sugar, cinnamon, and/or cranberries.  I had already put some
of the items in the basket, so I didn't want to leave the store
entirely, lest my stuff be put back on the shelves before I returned.
Not to worry -- there is a payphone right at the entrance to the
store.

"Effective 10/7/97, local calls 35 cents" was plastered on the phone
near the coin slot.  Sure enough, I had to pay $0.35 for this call.

California law is explicit and clear: local payphone calls are to be
no more than $0.20 for the first 15 minutes.  However, the federal law
now pre-empts local authority, even though that pre-emption is
blatantly unconstitutional: a local call is clearly INTRAstate
commerce, and thus not subject to federal regulation.  Congress and
the FCC have unquestionably overstepped their legal authority.

And today we see the FCC continuing with its ridiculous rules on
reimbursement to payphone owners for calls to toll-free numbers.
First of all, the per-call charge is ridiculously high, even at $0.28,
and secondly, it shouldn't be a flat fee per call.  I think that a
rate of $0.05 for the first minute and $0.01 per additional minute
would be entirely reasonable and proper, although I still don't grant
the point that it's reasonable or proper to reimburse payphone owners
ANYTHING for this service.  Every single payphone owner entered the
business knowing full well that they would have some non-revenue
calls, so their crying and wailing influences me not the least.  Why
should *I* pay more to give these companies something with NOTHING
given in return?

Payphone deregulation has been an unmitigated failure, far beyond any
problems with deregulation of other aspects of the telephone system.
What benefits has the CONSUMER seen from payphone deregulation??


** Do not spam e-mail me! <http://www.best.com/~eureka/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com
  >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The only benefit perhaps to the consumer
is that some COCOT operators do try to actually be competitive in 
environments where other phones are located. As I mentioned a couple
days ago, the COCOTS I had installed at the place of business only
charge 25 cents and I intend to keep them that way as long as possible.
When you see a privately operated pay phone why don't you courteously
suggest to the owner that if he were to set local call prices so low
it was 'almost a giveaway' it would serve to promote a lot of goodwill
for his establishment. It could even be tied into a promotion for the
store with a sign saying, 'not sure what to buy or how much to get? 
Call back home to find out; this phone set at a low cost as a courtesy
to assist our customers.'    ... or words to that effect. The phones
I had installed for the guy here in Skokie have already generated much
good will for him; i.e. people arriving on the bus late at night who
need a taxicab for example need only deposit 25 cents and press *2 to
get one. The speed dial on the phone then does this routine:

      6731000,,,1,1,1,cocot-number,1,1,1,2 and the taxicab 
      interactive voice response unit says, 'thank you, your
      cab will arrive in approximatly 5-10 minutes. You may 
      hang up now.'

What that does is dials the taxicab number; pauses for 3x2 seconds to
wait for an answer; yes I have a touch tone phone (do not need to wait
for a live operator); yes I want to order a cab (as opposed to package
delivery service or rechecking status on a pending order); it will
come to a residence or place of business (as opposed to airport or
hotel); the number of the phone placing the call is checked in the
database to find the address where to send the cab; number of persons
traveling (I just had them default this to one, it does not really
matter if two or three people also ride); going to same community (a
choice could have been [2] going to nearby community, but again it
does not matter); 'driver might not allow smoking [1] okay [2] must
be non-smoking [3] must allow smoking';	no I do not need to have 
this order repeated back to me for verification (a choice could have
been [1] repeat this to me to be sure it is correct). Each comma
puts in a two-second pause. 

I have *3 speed dial the toll free number for Greyhound information
and *4 dial the number for local transit information. *5 calls a time
and weather message. *2 *4 *5 cost 25 cents each. A sign on the
phone indicates these options. I think there does exist the possi-
bility that some payphone owners will use them as ways to build and
maintain goodwill with customers. You might suggest it to merchants
you trade with.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 04:14:57 GMT


aljon@worldnet.att.net (John Stahl) writes:

> The latest from Nortel has startled the ILEC's (and probably a whole
> lot of others in the business) with the announcement of Internet
> service over the electrical power grid. Several with whom I've talked
> with (I travel around to the Independent Telcos in the Northeast US),
> have already contacted Nortel to find out what they have to offer as
> sort of a defensive mechanism.  After all, if DATA can be sent via the
> power lines, can VOICE be far behind?

      I have doubts about transmitting data over power lines all the
way from the substation.  Doing it from the pole transformer is
feasible, but transmitting all the way back to the substation would be
tough.  It has been done, though, although the first scheme to do it
(for meter reading) involved shorting the power line for a microsecond
or so, which produced enough of a spike to make it through the pole
transformer.

      If the system involves extra gear at each pole transformer,
though, that's quite feasible.  People have been sending stuff short
distances over power lines for decades, and recently the data rates
have been going up.  Check out the Intellon system (U.S. patent
#5574748).

      A scheme with fibre-optic lines from substation to pole
transformer, with an interface box at the pole and plug-in boxes in
the home would be quite feasible with current technology.


John Nagle

------------------------------

From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:35:09 -0400
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Bill Ranck wrote:

"Hmmm, let's see what kind of data rates and how do they get by the
local tranformers?"

Dunno.  But this reminds me of a scheme that was tested in the early
1960s to put civil defense buzzers in every home and business to
augment sirens, which miss many people for various reasons.  It was
called NEAR (I've forgotten the wording).  The system superimposed a
240 Hz signal on the AC lines going out from substations in a given
area, that frequency being low enough to pass through the transformers.  
Delco Electronics made the buzzers, which looked like today's common
"wall wart" AC adapters except that they didn't have cords; the
buzzers were tuned to 240 Hz and would go off if that frequency was
present.  There was also a related proposal to make AM radios that
would turn themselves on when the 240 Hz signal was received.

One problem they discovered was that SCR-based light dimmers -- which
work by cutting off the power for a portion of each half-cycle --
often generated a harmonic at 240 Hz that would falsely trigger the
NEAR buzzers.  The folks working on the system decided to change to a
frequency that wasn't harmonically related to 60 Hz -- using a new
signal generator that, ironically, used SCRs itself -- but the system
seems to have disappeared without a trace shortly afterward.

------------------------------

From: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Date: 11 Oct 1997 08:15:24 GMT
Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA
Reply-To: hpa@transmeta.com (H. Peter Anvin)


> Hmmm, let's see what kind of data rates and how do they get by
> the local tranformers?

They usually don't -- draw fibre away from there -- but they already
have the rights-of-way for the trunk lines, and that's a *heck* of a
lot less digging needed.


hpa

------------------------------

From: Darrell_Greenwood@mindlink.net (Darrell Greenwood)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 02:26:50 -0700
Organization: URL:<http://www.nyx.net/~dgreenw/>


In article <telecom17.278.8@telecom-digest.org>, ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu
(Bill Ranck) wrote:

> Hmmm, let's see what kind of data rates and how do they get by
> the local tranformers?

FWIW, another article gave me the ah-ha.  North America 8 to 12 houses
on a transformer.  UK 300 houses on a transformer. I(squared) rules.


Cheers,

Darrell Greenwood, Vancouver, BC   Darrell_Greenwood@mindlink.net    
My web homepage...                  http://www.nyx.net/~dgreenw/

------------------------------

From: jhines@enteract.com (John B. Hines)
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal: Electric Outlets Could Be Link
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:34:48 GMT
Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server


aljon@worldnet.att.net (John Stahl) wrote:

[Stuff on data access via power lines in the UK snipped]

> You note that their plans seem to not include the US market -- wanna bet?
> Notice the statement about bandwidth -- will they stop at data? How about
> video and voice and who knows what else?

 From what I saw, the UK puts more houses per local transformer than
US practices.  This makes the cost much higher here, for the extra
equipment needed.

------------------------------

From: Bruce Hanson <bruce@watchmark.com>
Subject: Re: Combining Analog Lines
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:50:16 -0700
Organization: U S WEST International Systems Group


A company called Ramp Networks makes a product that may do what you
need. It is an analog router that can distribute the load of an
internet connection over up to three modems. It does this by assigning
TCP connections over the most available modem. A drawback is that you
can only get one modem's worth of bandwidth for any one connection. It
also has a built-in four port 10Base-T hub as well.

It will work with basic PPP accounts that an ISP provides, you need
one account per modem, which could eliminate your need for anything at
the ISP's location.

The product is called the WebRamp M3, and more info can be found at: 

    http://www.rampnet.com

I'm not affiliated with them in any way, I'm just a satisfied customer.


Bruce

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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 11 Oct 97 23:15:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 281

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Personal 800 Service (Thomas Hinders)
    Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll (Jeffrey Rhodes)
    Re: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice (Brent Best)
    Employment Opportunity: CAD Supervisor Needed (Thom Erickson)
    Phone Problem in Residence Hall (Janet Price)
    Another Spam 800 Number (Dale O. Miller)
    Not Spam: If Anyone Needs Info on How to MAKE MONEY FAST (A. Reader)
    Help: Cellular/Wireless Notebook Solution (Roque Aranador)
    Qualcomm Q Phone Paging/Voice Question (Scott R. Ehrlich)
    Re: Phone Stuff on TV (Mark J. Cuccia)

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From: Thomas_Hinders/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com (Thomas Hinders)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:17:10 -0400
Subject: Personal 800 Service


Sometime ago, there was a discussion of personal 800 service.  My
daughter has gone off to college (200 miles from home) and I think its
time to consider one.

ATT offers $.20 a minute with a $2.50 per month charge.

Any suggestions?


Tom Hinders
Thomas_Hinders@lotus.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Forget about AT&T. There are many
better deals around, or at least deals just as good from a lot of
small vendors. How would you like an 800 service which allows all
these features:

1) Use it not only for incoming calls, but for *outgoing* calls as
well, eliminating the need for a separate calling card?  Just dial
your 800 number, insert your pin, and dial out again.

2) Program it to follow you around. Dial into your 800 number and
put it in maintainence mode by inserting your pin. Then tell it
where (a) priority calls are to be sent; (b) other, normal calls
are to be sent; (c) how do deal with no-answers; i.e. to system
provided voicemail or your own voicemail or some third backup
number.

3) Call screening: When it first answers and receives a call for
you the caller is asked to state his name. The connection is then
split and you get a call giving you the name provided by the caller.
You then either accept the call or send it to voicemail. 

4) Call waiting and three way calling (on an 800 number, yet!) If a
call comes in for you and the system knows you are on line; i.e.  you
are making an outgoing call, accepting another incoming call, or in
maintainence mode, listening to voicemail or whatever, the system
makes a little chirp and says 'you have a call waiting'.  You have the
option of taking the new call while holding the old one or dropping
the old one and taking the new one or ignoring the new call. If you
are on a call either incoming or outgoing and need to make another call
you can either consult on the side or conference the existing call
with a new one. It is all done with the touch tone buttons.

5) A pretty standard voicemail package is available as part of it
if you want to use it. (There is an extra charge.)

6) The system can tell the difference between fax/data and voice calls
so if a fax machine calls your 800 number there is a provision in 
maintainence mode to tell it where to send the fax/data call, for
example to a different number with a fax machine on it. It all happens
automatically. If a fax machine calls your 800 number it gets sent
to your fax line. If voice, the call comes to your voice line.

7) Wakeup service and callback service. Tell it to call and wake you
at 7:00 AM and the number to reach you at and it will do so. If you
are at an international location and prefer to use USA dialtone you
can do that also. Just dial in and ask it to call you back at whatever
number you give it. For this purpose, not only do you have your 800
number but on request they will assign you a regular POTS number in
408 or 415. For example, on mine I have my 800 number but I also 
have 415-xxx-xxxx which simply ties into the 800 ... if you call the
800 line I pay for it, if you call the 415 side then you pay for
that portion of the call and I pay for the outbound to wherever it
locates me. 

8) Data transmission is *GREAT*. I can easily go 28.8 or faster with
my existing modem through the 800 number. Only rarely is the connection
not good enough to go that fast.

9) Your personal greeting, recorded in your own voice answers incoming
calls and tells the caller 'please hold while your call is transferred
to me'. You can change your destination number as often as desired at
any time. 

If that is not enough features, there are a few more. The system is
very robust, but I will let the proprietors tell you about it.

The charges are fifteen cents per minute inbound and ten cents per
minute outbound. So if someone called your 800 number and the call was
passed along to you, the charge would be 15+10=25 cents per minute.
If they only leave voicemail then it is just 15 cents per minute.
If you use it for outgoing calls, that is dial in to 800, enter your
pin and dial out again, the same charge applies of 15+10=25, but
bear in mind there is no surcharge if using a calling card or a pay
phone, etc. Anytime it makes an outgoing call to you, for example to
wake up, the charge is the ten cents per minute noted above. Inter-
national calls are permitted at prevailing rates. I think the monthly
fee for the service, in addition to calling charges is about ten or
fifteen dollars per month; I would have to look at my latest bill 
to be sure. 

So now, not only can your daughter use it at school, but you can
throw away your other calling cards and use it yourself from any
payphone, etc. You can use it like AT&T's 500 Service by only giving
out the POTS version of your 800 number. Callers pay to reach you
but the system locates you wherever.

It is called "MY LINE" and is marketed by Call America, a company
located in the Silicon Valley area of California. Jeff Buckingham
is the president, and the company has been a loyal and generous
patron of this Digest for a few years now. For more information
and immediate signup (they turn you on rather quickly) contact
one of these people:
                     jbucking@callamerica.com  (Jeff Buckingham)
                     estrong@callamerica.com   (Ernie Strong)
                     beth_harris@callamerica.com (Beth Harris)

Mention to them please that you appreciate their support of this
Digest and inquire further about MyLine, or ask to try it for
a couple months to see how it fits in to your telecom requirements.
Personally, I cannot imagine ever going back to a 'traditional'
sort of 800 number, personal or not, with as many features as
MyLine includes as part of their standard package. I know that some
of you have signed up with them in the past at my recommendation
and if you would care to share your experiences, please do.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Jeffrey Rhodes <jeffrey.rhodes@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 14:47:35 -0700
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Al Varney wrote:

> In article <telecom17.277.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jack Decker
> <jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com> wrote:

>> The thing that I am curious about is this: As I understand it (and
>> feel free to correct me if I am wrong), if you do not have GTE as your
>> default toll carrier, they have to load a PIC code into the switch for
>> your preferred carrier.  And it is possible to have NO default toll
>> carrier (both interLATA and intraLATA), in which case no toll call
>> will go through unless you dial an access code first.  So, it would
>> seem that there MUST be a code for GTE intraLATA toll, that would be
>                  ^^^^
>                 not true, see below

> Switches generally implement two levels of routing.  One is based on
> dialed digits only -- no carrier code is needed or used.  The other is
> routing based on carrier code.  Dialed digit analysis can trigger
> carrier routing (using an interLATA or intraLATA PIC), or the customer
> can force it with a Carrier Access Code (CAC=101XXXX)...

Forcing no intra-LATA toll calling unless casually dialed is trickier
than simply not having a default PIC. I doubt this option is really
offered since billing and routing are distinctly different processes
and most lines have some sort of "free" radius of non-toll intra-LATA
calling. Calls within this radius are often charged as toll when
dialed with access codes, ie. so-called casual dialing, either 10XXX
or 101(0,5,6)XXX.

The XXXX carrier can refuse to accept such calls dialed as 101XXXX1+
in order to force 101XXXX0+ when a suitable billing arrangement is not
in place for casual dialing. A carrier usually charges more for casual
dialing calls than for 1+ inter-LATA calls, sometimes more for their
own customers who choose to casual dial, so maybe GTE wants this
capability for when the intra-LATA PIC is not GTE?

The XXXX carrier can even require the dialing carrier's network to
block the casual calling at their network. This comes up with
traditional inter-LATA carriers who must pay per-second access
charges, even for calls that they do not wish to complete!

When do LATAs go away? What is keeping GTE from converting all their
local customers to use GTE long distance? That might not go over too
well with the public (or the state PUCs) but does the Telecom Act of
1996 require a CLEC or ILEC to provide choices for "toll" calling? I'd
kind of like it if I could extend my GTE local unlimited ISDN voice
and data calling for $50 a month to "any" distance ;-)


Jeffrey Rhodes at jeffrey.rhodes@attws.com

------------------------------

From: Brent Best <bjbest@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 02:07:35 -0700
Reply-To: bjbest@interlog.com


Linc Madison wrote:

> It occurs to me (with 20/20 hindsight) that 888 was a poor choice for
> the second toll-free SAC.  It just doesn't jolt the average Joe enough
> as being distinct from 800.  A different choice -- maybe 822 -- would
> have been more distinctive, and might have resulted in fewer problems.
> There could've been ads with the jingle "8-2-2 is toll-free, too!"

The solution is to throw open as many 8XX SAC's as possible for
toll-free  use.  Companies can then have virtually unlimited choice to
use unique 9-character alpha names.  A company could pick a number like
1-865-263-7422, which spells out 1-8-OK-AMERICA.  If your "slogan"
starts with a T, U, or V, a complete ten-character name is possible.  An
example could be " 1-TO-CALL-4-LAW " ( 1-862-255-4529 )

------------------------------

From: tpe@dmc10.com (Thom Erickson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:47:43 CDT
Subject: Employment Opportunity: CAD Supervisor Needed


I am looking for a third shift CAD Supervisor to perform supervisory
roles in a CAD and CNC Dept.  The individual will be responsible for
overseeing the Computer Aided Design, CNC Machining areas and mold
fabrication areas supervising 10 people.  This department is
responsible for the design and prototyping of medical implants and
located in Pennsylvania.

Experience with 3D design and machining would be ideal.  A college
degree is not neccessary.  Knowledge of Computer Aided Design
technology is a must.  We have benefits, stock options, retirement
plans and excellent salary for the area.

If you know anyone that might be interested please contact:
Thom Erickson
Voice: 609-584-9000 ext. 259 Fax: 609-584-9575  Email: tpe@dmc10.com

------------------------------

From: Janet Price <jprice@carroll1.cc.edu>
Subject: Phone Problem in Residence Hall
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:02:11 -0500
Organization: Carroll College
Reply-To: jprice@carroll1.cc.edu


We have a student with a cordless phone that works fine in the room
across the hall, but has a lot of line noise in his room.  However, a
plain phone works fine in his room.  We'd appreciate any suggestions
regarding simple things to try.  Thanks in advance.

------------------------------

From: domiller@ualr.edu
Subject: Another Spam 800 Number
Date: 9 Oct 97 14:57:07 CST
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock


I received a nice UCE today, and thought that telecom readers would
appreciate a small portion of it.

> [ Unimportant portion of UCE deleted ]

> For details call 1-800-322-6169 ext 3747 today for a brief recorded
> overview

Some people just won't learn, will they?  This number has a rather
long recorded message which I encourage you to call and be sure to
listen to in its entirety, then leave your message expressing your
dislike of UCE.


Dale O. Miller - domiller@ualr.edu | University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Systems Programmer                 | 2801 S. University Ave.
Voice: +1 501 569 8714             | Little Rock, AR  72204-1099  USA
http://www.ualr.edu/~domiller/     | KC5NXW

------------------------------

From: a-reader@aol.com (A. Reader)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:32:46 EDT
Subject: If Anyone Needs Info on How to MAKE MONEY FAST


Dear PAT:  

     I received the enclosed in my in-box today.  It appears to have
originated (as has much recent spam) from an MCI.NET dialup.

**     The important part of the message is : 1-800-304-5632 **

     My comments are in brackets; I wouldn't bother you with this, but
the sender must REALLY want calls, since he offers to pay for 'em
himself.

 --and just this once, please don't use my real return address--

> Yes... that can be *you* at the top...   [Oh, I'm sure]

> and...

> not just the top of another scam pyramid....    [Right.  At the bottom...]
> but a great product that all mlmers can use!

> A 3x9 forced matrix that has a 50% matching sponsor bonus   [That's right;
confuse
> and a 33% payout on the first level to keep the little guy in!        'em
with jargon ! ]

> ***************************************
> 3 [million] BELOW YOU - AND YOUR POSITION IS FREE!!!
> ***************************************

> This program is so new, NOBODY knows about it yet!   [There's a reason for
that]

> There are less than 50 distributors in the company   [Mr. Grammar Person sez
> as of today,
                                                           "don't you mean
'FEWER',
> but that will change dramatically,                              dammit ?"]
> as this is the first email ad 
> being sent.                                        [But not the last.  Oh,
no, not by a longshot]

> We need people to call back the people who respond to this ad!

[Then we'll need people to call back the people who call back the
people who call back the people who call back the people who call back
the people who call back...]

> Call 1-800-304-5632 NOW for your free issue and business plan!

[If this isn't an open invitation, I'll eat this spam.  You heard him;
do it RIGHT NOW, even if you're walking down the street and see some
phone booths that look a bit lonely, or perhaps from work, behind your
employer's PBX....]

Other numbers to try are 1-888 [NOT 800] 365-0000 x1732 or
1-800-613-3456.  Tell 'em you wanna know about the Laundry CD.  I kid
you not.


A. Reader


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Okay readers, including you, 'A. Reader'
you know what needs to be done; you know the routine by now. In the 
olden days we thought it was great when Jeff Slaton got a bill from
his telco for right about a hundred thousand dollars one month as a
result of netizens working together to pollute his number. Let's see
if we can pledge at least a half-million dollars to distribute among
the fools listed in these two messages today. The 'Laundry CD' is
really worth everything you can put into it ... <grin> but Make Money
Fast needs to learn his lesson also. When you are at a bank of pay-
phones, dial them up and walk away leaving the phones off hook. Ask
your employer to make a 'matching contribution' <grin> by using 
those DID lines and PBX extensions at your school, etc. 

Remember, lunchmeat will go away -- at least in large amounts -- when
the *perception* that it is profitable goes away. Help show these
fools how costly it really can be.  PAT] 
 
------------------------------

From: Roque Aranador <aranador.roque.rr@bhp.com.au>
Subject: Help: Cellular/Wireless Notebook Solution
Date: 10 Oct 1997 18:41:11 GMT
Organization: BHP HAWAII INC


I'll be taking a trip to Australia and France and I'm looking for the
following devices:

	-cellular/wireless phone that can be attached to a pcmcia
modem (that works in Australia, France, and USA)

	-pcmcia modem card that will work with a cellular/wireless
phone (that works in Australia, France, and USA) The notebook is a
Toshiba Libretto running Windows 95.

Please provide Manufacturer and Model for both devices.


Many thanks in advance!!!!
Roque Aranador
aranador.roque.rr@bhp.com.au

------------------------------

From: sehrlich@shore.net (Scott R. Ehrlich)
Subject: Qualcomm Q Phone Paging/Voice Question
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:37:20 -0400
Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. (info@shore.net)


I was considering buying a pager until I saw the specs of the Q phone.
Can the present Q phone, along with the upcoming dual-mode Q phone in
Nov/Dec, simultaneously receive alpha pages along with receiving
incoming calls and making outgoing calls?

In other words, if I want to make/receive calls and receive alpha pages
simultaneously, will the Q phone be my all-in-one answer, or will I still
need two devices - a pager and a phone?

For paging, I would take advantage of the carrier's email -> pager
gateway.

As I am in the Boston area, and don't plan to go too far in the near
or far future, what cellular providers plan to take full advantage of
the Q phone's capabilities?

I know we have Bell Atlantic Mobile, and Sprint PCS is coming soon.
Who else is coming to the area in the near future?  Can I assume BAM
and Sprint PCS are/will be able to offer alpha paging via email to the
Q phone?


Thanks,

Scott Ehrlich                           sehrlich@shore.net
Scott Ehrlich Consulting                http://www.shore.net/~sehrlich  
Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:59:41 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Phone Stuff on TV


Leonard Erickson wrote:

> It's interesting how much stuff they get right (and wrong!) in TV
> shows.

Last year, I posted an article to TELECOM Digest regarding
inconsistancies about ringers used on TV shows, movies, old radio
entertainment, etc.

I had mentioned that you might see a WECO/NECO 500/554 telephone, but
when it rings, you hear that of an old steel ringer-box, old bakelite
ringer-box, or WECO/NECO 302/352 telephone, vice-versa, etc. (i.e. a
Trimline phone ringing like a 500/554 telephone).

Or, the ringing cadences aren't always correct - they are too long, too
short, not 'spaced' consistantly, etc. And the telephone in the TV show
or movie is _NOT_ intended to be on a party line!

Sometimes, in a TV show (or movie), when you see the party pick up the
receiver, the ringing STOPS DEAD, without ANY remaining 'reasonance' of
the brass bells.

In that last year's mid-June posting "Questions about ringing", I also
stated:

> In some movies, two telephone calls come in at different times on
> the same telephone shown. Each time the phone is shown to be ringing,
> a different type ringer gong has been used. I remember this in a
> scene of "Vertigo" (James Stewart and Kim Novak) and in a scene of
> "Imitation of Life" (Lana Turner and Juanita Moore). In both movies
> (circa late 1950's), the same telephone rings like a WECO 302 in one
> scene, but like an old bakelite ringer box in another scene!

Actually, in "Vertigo", the telephone rings first like a WECO/NECO model
#302 (B-type ringer with brass-gong-pair 41-A and 41-B), but later on in
the scene, the telephone rings like an old WECO steel ringer-box (type-8
ringer).

This is all in one scene, in the apartment of John 'Scotty' Fergusen
(Jimmy Stewart), where he had taken Madeline Elster - really Judy Barten
(Kim Novak), after he had rescued her from her suicidal dive into San
Francisco Bay. The telephone that Jimmy Stewart answers _IS_ a WECO/NECO
model #302 desk telephone. It seems that the call is from Gavin Elster,
Madeline's husband. Jimmy Stewart tells the caller that he will return
the call later on. After several minutes of dialogue with Kim Novak, the
phone rings again, but that of a WECO steel ringer-box.

Well, that is how it is shown and heard in an airing of "Vertigo" that I
taped off TV about seven years ago. Last year, MCA/Universal 'restored'
"Vertigo" for theatrical re-release, by going to the original 1958
Paramount Pictures 35-mm VistaVision negatives/prints and audio
soundtrack, and putting togather a 70-mm restored color print with new
digital stereo soundtrack.

Last Saturday night, AMC (American Movie Classics) aired "Vertigo"
(one-time-only) on cable-TV. It was the 1996 'restored' version, shown
in the wide-screen ('letterbox') version. There was a 30-minute special
prior to the movie, about the restoration process of "Vertigo". It was
mentioned that _some_ of the original sounds had to be re-created on a
sound-effect machine, so that the original dialogue and musical
soundtrack, now in digital stereo could be properly heard.

Well, in the 'restored' version, in the scene in Jimmy Stewart's
apartment when the first telephone call rings in, it doesn't ring
anymore like a WECO/NECO model #302 (gongs 41-A and 41-B), but rather
like that of a WECO/NECO model #500/554, gongs 54-A and 55-A. When Jimmy
Stewart answers the phone, you do see it as a WECO/NECO model #302,
though. But when the second telephone call rings several minutes later,
the ringing is still that of the old WECO steel ringer-box.

One other telco topic in "Vertigo" is when Jimmy Stewart is early in the
movie, when he is at "Midge's" (Barbara Bel-Geddes') apartment. He
mentions that he needs to call Gavin Elster, an old college friend. The
number is a 'MIssion' number. I _assume_ that in 1958 there was an
exchange in San Francisco named 'MIssion'. Of course, most movies made
in the "good-old-days" referred to all telephone numbers with EXchange
names, or if in a small town or rural area, in all numbers (and possible
party line station letters) but as five-digits or less.


MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

------------------------------

From: John McHugh <JMCHUGH@logis.org>
Subject: Telecommunications Resources Survey
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:28:00 -0500


Dear Colleagues,

Our municipality is revising its Comprehensive Plan, as required by
Minnesota State Statute.  This version will have a telecommunications
component in it.

As we survey our telecommunications resources, we already know the
capability and location of facilities for the upgraded TWI cable tv
system serving our city.  However, specifics about US West's plant,
switches and capabilities aren't readily at hand.
The MN PUC said they didn't know, but did send us a list of companies
who have been granted certificates of authorization for local service,
and the name of a USWC regulatory affairs office representative.
I'm sure others, as part of a business plan or comprehensive plan, have
flattened the learning and lingo curve.  Can you recommend any
information resources, www-based or otherwise, which I can reference so
we ask productive questions and get useful answers from the right
wire-line and wireless teleco operators?

Also, in a recent development, the Benton Foundation's Communications
Headlines listserv had this summary in their 10.7.97 edition:

Title:  Electric Outlets Could Be Link To the Internet
Source: Wall Street Journal   <http://wsj.com/> (B6)
Author: Guatam Naik
Issue:  Infrastructure
Description: Engineers claim they have developed technology that would
allow people to make phone calls and access the Internet at high speeds
through the electrical outlets in walls. (How fast? Like the speed of
light, man). If the technology developed by United Utilities PLC and
Northern Telecom Ltd is successful, it would transform the world's power
lines into major conduits on the information superhighway and give
electrical companies easy entree into the phone and Internet access
business. The companies believe the technology is "ready for mass
market" and will announce plans at a press conference tomorrow. "At long
last, the local monopoly of the incumbent telecom operators is about to
be demolished," said a spokesman.
(c)Benton Foundation, 1997. Redistribution of this email publication --
both internally and externally -- is encouraged if it includes this
message.

What do you readers think?  Will Buck and Flash arrive sooner than
believed?


Grateful for your insights,

John McHugh
Cable TV Office @ City Hall
5005 Minnetonka Boulevard
St. Louis Park, MN 55416
jmchugh@ci.saint-louis-park.mn.us
612-924-2660
fax-924-2175

------------------------------

From: course@socrates.berkeley.edu
Subject: Simulation of an ATM-Based Network (Course)
Date: 11 Oct 1997 17:44:16 GMT
Organization: Data Communication and Newtorking Services


          Announcing a hands-on short course in Boston, Massachusetts
          November 5-7, 1997
          "SIMULATION OF AN ATM-BASED NETWORK"
          with William E. Stephens, Ph.D. and Christopher Ward, Ph.D.,
          both of the David Sarnoff Research Center, Princeton, N.J.
          
          This short course examines key issues involved in simulating
          high-performance local and wide area networks. Topics covered
          include:
          
          High-Speed Transport Protocols, Simulation Steps, System
          Simulation Considerations, ATM Switch Architectures, and ATM
          Signaling. The course is instructed by William E. Stephens,
          Head of the Wireless and ATM Networking Group at the David
          Sarnoff Research Center in Princeton, NJ and Christopher Ward,
          technical staff at Sarnoff.
          
          More information?  
          
          Call  (510) 642-4151
          Fax (510) 642-6027
          Electronic Mail to: course@unx.berkeley.edu

------------------------------

End of TELECOM Digest V17 #281
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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 11 Oct 97 23:15:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 281

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Personal 800 Service (Thomas Hinders)
    Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll (Jeffrey Rhodes)
    Re: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice (Brent Best)
    Employment Opportunity: CAD Supervisor Needed (Thom Erickson)
    Phone Problem in Residence Hall (Janet Price)
    Another Spam 800 Number (Dale O. Miller)
    Not Spam: If Anyone Needs Info on How to MAKE MONEY FAST (A. Reader)
    Help: Cellular/Wireless Notebook Solution (Roque Aranador)
    Qualcomm Q Phone Paging/Voice Question (Scott R. Ehrlich)
    Re: Phone Stuff on TV (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Telecommunications Resources Survey (John McHugh)
    Simulation of an ATM-Based Network (course@socrates.berkeley.edu)

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From: Thomas_Hinders/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com (Thomas Hinders)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:17:10 -0400
Subject: Personal 800 Service


Sometime ago, there was a discussion of personal 800 service.  My
daughter has gone off to college (200 miles from home) and I think its
time to consider one.

ATT offers $.20 a minute with a $2.50 per month charge.

Any suggestions?


Tom Hinders
Thomas_Hinders@lotus.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Forget about AT&T. There are many
better deals around, or at least deals just as good from a lot of
small vendors. How would you like an 800 service which allows all
these features:

1) Use it not only for incoming calls, but for *outgoing* calls as
well, eliminating the need for a separate calling card?  Just dial
your 800 number, insert your pin, and dial out again.

2) Program it to follow you around. Dial into your 800 number and
put it in maintainence mode by inserting your pin. Then tell it
where (a) priority calls are to be sent; (b) other, normal calls
are to be sent; (c) how do deal with no-answers; i.e. to system
provided voicemail or your own voicemail or some third backup
number.

3) Call screening: When it first answers and receives a call for
you the caller is asked to state his name. The connection is then
split and you get a call giving you the name provided by the caller.
You then either accept the call or send it to voicemail. 

4) Call waiting and three way calling (on an 800 number, yet!) If a
call comes in for you and the system knows you are on line; i.e.  you
are making an outgoing call, accepting another incoming call, or in
maintainence mode, listening to voicemail or whatever, the system
makes a little chirp and says 'you have a call waiting'.  You have the
option of taking the new call while holding the old one or dropping
the old one and taking the new one or ignoring the new call. If you
are on a call either incoming or outgoing and need to make another call
you can either consult on the side or conference the existing call
with a new one. It is all done with the touch tone buttons.

5) A pretty standard voicemail package is available as part of it
if you want to use it. (There is an extra charge.)

6) The system can tell the difference between fax/data and voice calls
so if a fax machine calls your 800 number there is a provision in 
maintainence mode to tell it where to send the fax/data call, for
example to a different number with a fax machine on it. It all happens
automatically. If a fax machine calls your 800 number it gets sent
to your fax line. If voice, the call comes to your voice line.

7) Wakeup service and callback service. Tell it to call and wake you
at 7:00 AM and the number to reach you at and it will do so. If you
are at an international location and prefer to use USA dialtone you
can do that also. Just dial in and ask it to call you back at whatever
number you give it. For this purpose, not only do you have your 800
number but on request they will assign you a regular POTS number in
408 or 415. For example, on mine I have my 800 number but I also 
have 415-xxx-xxxx which simply ties into the 800 ... if you call the
800 line I pay for it, if you call the 415 side then you pay for
that portion of the call and I pay for the outbound to wherever it
locates me. 

8) Data transmission is *GREAT*. I can easily go 28.8 or faster with
my existing modem through the 800 number. Only rarely is the connection
not good enough to go that fast.

9) Your personal greeting, recorded in your own voice answers incoming
calls and tells the caller 'please hold while your call is transferred
to me'. You can change your destination number as often as desired at
any time. 

If that is not enough features, there are a few more. The system is
very robust, but I will let the proprietors tell you about it.

The charges are fifteen cents per minute inbound and ten cents per
minute outbound. So if someone called your 800 number and the call was
passed along to you, the charge would be 15+10=25 cents per minute.
If they only leave voicemail then it is just 15 cents per minute.
If you use it for outgoing calls, that is dial in to 800, enter your
pin and dial out again, the same charge applies of 15+10=25, but
bear in mind there is no surcharge if using a calling card or a pay
phone, etc. Anytime it makes an outgoing call to you, for example to
wake up, the charge is the ten cents per minute noted above. Inter-
national calls are permitted at prevailing rates. I think the monthly
fee for the service, in addition to calling charges is about ten or
fifteen dollars per month; I would have to look at my latest bill 
to be sure. 

So now, not only can your daughter use it at school, but you can
throw away your other calling cards and use it yourself from any
payphone, etc. You can use it like AT&T's 500 Service by only giving
out the POTS version of your 800 number. Callers pay to reach you
but the system locates you wherever.

It is called "MY LINE" and is marketed by Call America, a company
located in the Silicon Valley area of California. Jeff Buckingham
is the president, and the company has been a loyal and generous
patron of this Digest for a few years now. For more information
and immediate signup (they turn you on rather quickly) contact
one of these people:
                     jbucking@callamerica.com  (Jeff Buckingham)
                     estrong@callamerica.com   (Ernie Strong)
                     beth_harris@callamerica.com (Beth Harris)

Mention to them please that you appreciate their support of this
Digest and inquire further about MyLine, or ask to try it for
a couple months to see how it fits in to your telecom requirements.
Personally, I cannot imagine ever going back to a 'traditional'
sort of 800 number, personal or not, with as many features as
MyLine includes as part of their standard package. I know that some
of you have signed up with them in the past at my recommendation
and if you would care to share your experiences, please do.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Jeffrey Rhodes <jeffrey.rhodes@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 14:47:35 -0700
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


Al Varney wrote:

> In article <telecom17.277.6@telecom-digest.org>, Jack Decker
> <jack@novagate.REMOVE-THIS.com> wrote:

>> The thing that I am curious about is this: As I understand it (and
>> feel free to correct me if I am wrong), if you do not have GTE as your
>> default toll carrier, they have to load a PIC code into the switch for
>> your preferred carrier.  And it is possible to have NO default toll
>> carrier (both interLATA and intraLATA), in which case no toll call
>> will go through unless you dial an access code first.  So, it would
>> seem that there MUST be a code for GTE intraLATA toll, that would be
>                  ^^^^
>                 not true, see below

> Switches generally implement two levels of routing.  One is based on
> dialed digits only -- no carrier code is needed or used.  The other is
> routing based on carrier code.  Dialed digit analysis can trigger
> carrier routing (using an interLATA or intraLATA PIC), or the customer
> can force it with a Carrier Access Code (CAC=101XXXX)...

Forcing no intra-LATA toll calling unless casually dialed is trickier
than simply not having a default PIC. I doubt this option is really
offered since billing and routing are distinctly different processes
and most lines have some sort of "free" radius of non-toll intra-LATA
calling. Calls within this radius are often charged as toll when
dialed with access codes, ie. so-called casual dialing, either 10XXX
or 101(0,5,6)XXX.

The XXXX carrier can refuse to accept such calls dialed as 101XXXX1+
in order to force 101XXXX0+ when a suitable billing arrangement is not
in place for casual dialing. A carrier usually charges more for casual
dialing calls than for 1+ inter-LATA calls, sometimes more for their
own customers who choose to casual dial, so maybe GTE wants this
capability for when the intra-LATA PIC is not GTE?

The XXXX carrier can even require the dialing carrier's network to
block the casual calling at their network. This comes up with
traditional inter-LATA carriers who must pay per-second access
charges, even for calls that they do not wish to complete!

When do LATAs go away? What is keeping GTE from converting all their
local customers to use GTE long distance? That might not go over too
well with the public (or the state PUCs) but does the Telecom Act of
1996 require a CLEC or ILEC to provide choices for "toll" calling? I'd
kind of like it if I could extend my GTE local unlimited ISDN voice
and data calling for $50 a month to "any" distance ;-)


Jeffrey Rhodes at jeffrey.rhodes@attws.com

------------------------------

From: Brent Best <bjbest@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Perhaps 888 Was a Poor Choice
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 02:07:35 -0700
Reply-To: bjbest@interlog.com


Linc Madison wrote:

> It occurs to me (with 20/20 hindsight) that 888 was a poor choice for
> the second toll-free SAC.  It just doesn't jolt the average Joe enough
> as being distinct from 800.  A different choice -- maybe 822 -- would
> have been more distinctive, and might have resulted in fewer problems.
> There could've been ads with the jingle "8-2-2 is toll-free, too!"

The solution is to throw open as many 8XX SAC's as possible for
toll-free  use.  Companies can then have virtually unlimited choice to
use unique 9-character alpha names.  A company could pick a number like
1-865-263-7422, which spells out 1-8-OK-AMERICA.  If your "slogan"
starts with a T, U, or V, a complete ten-character name is possible.  An
example could be " 1-TO-CALL-4-LAW " ( 1-862-255-4529 )

------------------------------

From: tpe@dmc10.com (Thom Erickson)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:47:43 CDT
Subject: Employment Opportunity: CAD Supervisor Needed


I am looking for a third shift CAD Supervisor to perform supervisory
roles in a CAD and CNC Dept.  The individual will be responsible for
overseeing the Computer Aided Design, CNC Machining areas and mold
fabrication areas supervising 10 people.  This department is
responsible for the design and prototyping of medical implants and
located in Pennsylvania.

Experience with 3D design and machining would be ideal.  A college
degree is not neccessary.  Knowledge of Computer Aided Design
technology is a must.  We have benefits, stock options, retirement
plans and excellent salary for the area.

If you know anyone that might be interested please contact:
Thom Erickson
Voice: 609-584-9000 ext. 259 Fax: 609-584-9575  Email: tpe@dmc10.com

------------------------------

From: Janet Price <jprice@carroll1.cc.edu>
Subject: Phone Problem in Residence Hall
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:02:11 -0500
Organization: Carroll College
Reply-To: jprice@carroll1.cc.edu


We have a student with a cordless phone that works fine in the room
across the hall, but has a lot of line noise in his room.  However, a
plain phone works fine in his room.  We'd appreciate any suggestions
regarding simple things to try.  Thanks in advance.

------------------------------

From: domiller@ualr.edu
Subject: Another Spam 800 Number
Date: 9 Oct 97 14:57:07 CST
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock


I received a nice UCE today, and thought that telecom readers would
appreciate a small portion of it.

> [ Unimportant portion of UCE deleted ]

> For details call 1-800-322-6169 ext 3747 today for a brief recorded
> overview

Some people just won't learn, will they?  This number has a rather
long recorded message which I encourage you to call and be sure to
listen to in its entirety, then leave your message expressing your
dislike of UCE.


Dale O. Miller - domiller@ualr.edu | University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Systems Programmer                 | 2801 S. University Ave.
Voice: +1 501 569 8714             | Little Rock, AR  72204-1099  USA
http://www.ualr.edu/~domiller/     | KC5NXW

------------------------------

From: a-reader@aol.com (A. Reader)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:32:46 EDT
Subject: If Anyone Needs Info on How to MAKE MONEY FAST


Dear PAT:  

     I received the enclosed in my in-box today.  It appears to have
originated (as has much recent spam) from an MCI.NET dialup.

**     The important part of the message is : 1-800-304-5632 **

     My comments are in brackets; I wouldn't bother you with this, but
the sender must REALLY want calls, since he offers to pay for 'em
himself.

 --and just this once, please don't use my real return address--

> Yes... that can be *you* at the top...   [Oh, I'm sure]

> and...

> not just the top of another scam pyramid....    [Right.  At the bottom...]
> but a great product that all mlmers can use!

> A 3x9 forced matrix that has a 50% matching sponsor bonus   [That's right;
confuse
> and a 33% payout on the first level to keep the little guy in!        'em
with jargon ! ]

> ***************************************
> 3 [million] BELOW YOU - AND YOUR POSITION IS FREE!!!
> ***************************************

> This program is so new, NOBODY knows about it yet!   [There's a reason for
that]

> There are less than 50 distributors in the company   [Mr. Grammar Person sez
> as of today,
                                                           "don't you mean
'FEWER',
> but that will change dramatically,                              dammit ?"]
> as this is the first email ad 
> being sent.                                        [But not the last.  Oh,
no, not by a longshot]

> We need people to call back the people who respond to this ad!

[Then we'll need people to call back the people who call back the
people who call back the people who call back the people who call back
the people who call back...]

> Call 1-800-304-5632 NOW for your free issue and business plan!

[If this isn't an open invitation, I'll eat this spam.  You heard him;
do it RIGHT NOW, even if you're walking down the street and see some
phone booths that look a bit lonely, or perhaps from work, behind your
employer's PBX....]

Other numbers to try are 1-888 [NOT 800] 365-0000 x1732 or
1-800-613-3456.  Tell 'em you wanna know about the Laundry CD.  I kid
you not.


A. Reader


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Okay readers, including you, 'A. Reader'
you know what needs to be done; you know the routine by now. In the 
olden days we thought it was great when Jeff Slaton got a bill from
his telco for right about a hundred thousand dollars one month as a
result of netizens working together to pollute his number. Let's see
if we can pledge at least a half-million dollars to distribute among
the fools listed in these two messages today. The 'Laundry CD' is
really worth everything you can put into it ... <grin> but Make Money
Fast needs to learn his lesson also. When you are at a bank of pay-
phones, dial them up and walk away leaving the phones off hook. Ask
your employer to make a 'matching contribution' <grin> by using 
those DID lines and PBX extensions at your school, etc. 

Remember, lunchmeat will go away -- at least in large amounts -- when
the *perception* that it is profitable goes away. Help show these
fools how costly it really can be.  PAT] 
 
------------------------------

From: Roque Aranador <aranador.roque.rr@bhp.com.au>
Subject: Help: Cellular/Wireless Notebook Solution
Date: 10 Oct 1997 18:41:11 GMT
Organization: BHP HAWAII INC


I'll be taking a trip to Australia and France and I'm looking for the
following devices:

	-cellular/wireless phone that can be attached to a pcmcia
modem (that works in Australia, France, and USA)

	-pcmcia modem card that will work with a cellular/wireless
phone (that works in Australia, France, and USA) The notebook is a
Toshiba Libretto running Windows 95.

Please provide Manufacturer and Model for both devices.


Many thanks in advance!!!!
Roque Aranador
aranador.roque.rr@bhp.com.au

------------------------------

From: sehrlich@shore.net (Scott R. Ehrlich)
Subject: Qualcomm Q Phone Paging/Voice Question
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:37:20 -0400
Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. (info@shore.net)


I was considering buying a pager until I saw the specs of the Q phone.
Can the present Q phone, along with the upcoming dual-mode Q phone in
Nov/Dec, simultaneously receive alpha pages along with receiving
incoming calls and making outgoing calls?

In other words, if I want to make/receive calls and receive alpha pages
simultaneously, will the Q phone be my all-in-one answer, or will I still
need two devices - a pager and a phone?

For paging, I would take advantage of the carrier's email -> pager
gateway.

As I am in the Boston area, and don't plan to go too far in the near
or far future, what cellular providers plan to take full advantage of
the Q phone's capabilities?

I know we have Bell Atlantic Mobile, and Sprint PCS is coming soon.
Who else is coming to the area in the near future?  Can I assume BAM
and Sprint PCS are/will be able to offer alpha paging via email to the
Q phone?


Thanks,

Scott Ehrlich                           sehrlich@shore.net
Scott Ehrlich Consulting                http://www.shore.net/~sehrlich  
Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:59:41 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Phone Stuff on TV


Leonard Erickson wrote:

> It's interesting how much stuff they get right (and wrong!) in TV
> shows.

Last year, I posted an article to TELECOM Digest regarding
inconsistancies about ringers used on TV shows, movies, old radio
entertainment, etc.

I had mentioned that you might see a WECO/NECO 500/554 telephone, but
when it rings, you hear that of an old steel ringer-box, old bakelite
ringer-box, or WECO/NECO 302/352 telephone, vice-versa, etc. (i.e. a
Trimline phone ringing like a 500/554 telephone).

Or, the ringing cadences aren't always correct - they are too long, too
short, not 'spaced' consistantly, etc. And the telephone in the TV show
or movie is _NOT_ intended to be on a party line!

Sometimes, in a TV show (or movie), when you see the party pick up the
receiver, the ringing STOPS DEAD, without ANY remaining 'reasonance' of
the brass bells.

In that last year's mid-June posting "Questions about ringing", I also
stated:

> In some movies, two telephone calls come in at different times on
> the same telephone shown. Each time the phone is shown to be ringing,
> a different type ringer gong has been used. I remember this in a
> scene of "Vertigo" (James Stewart and Kim Novak) and in a scene of
> "Imitation of Life" (Lana Turner and Juanita Moore). In both movies
> (circa late 1950's), the same telephone rings like a WECO 302 in one
> scene, but like an old bakelite ringer box in another scene!

Actually, in "Vertigo", the telephone rings first like a WECO/NECO model
#302 (B-type ringer with brass-gong-pair 41-A and 41-B), but later on in
the scene, the telephone rings like an old WECO steel ringer-box (type-8
ringer).

This is all in one scene, in the apartment of John 'Scotty' Fergusen
(Jimmy Stewart), where he had taken Madeline Elster - really Judy Barten
(Kim Novak), after he had rescued her from her suicidal dive into San
Francisco Bay. The telephone that Jimmy Stewart answers _IS_ a WECO/NECO
model #302 desk telephone. It seems that the call is from Gavin Elster,
Madeline's husband. Jimmy Stewart tells the caller that he will return
the call later on. After several minutes of dialogue with Kim Novak, the
phone rings again, but that of a WECO steel ringer-box.

Well, that is how it is shown and heard in an airing of "Vertigo" that I
taped off TV about seven years ago. Last year, MCA/Universal 'restored'
"Vertigo" for theatrical re-release, by going to the original 1958
Paramount Pictures 35-mm VistaVision negatives/prints and audio
soundtrack, and putting togather a 70-mm restored color print with new
digital stereo soundtrack.

Last Saturday night, AMC (American Movie Classics) aired "Vertigo"
(one-time-only) on cable-TV. It was the 1996 'restored' version, shown
in the wide-screen ('letterbox') version. There was a 30-minute special
prior to the movie, about the restoration process of "Vertigo". It was
mentioned that _some_ of the original sounds had to be re-created on a
sound-effect machine, so that the original dialogue and musical
soundtrack, now in digital stereo could be properly heard.

Well, in the 'restored' version, in the scene in Jimmy Stewart's
apartment when the first telephone call rings in, it doesn't ring
anymore like a WECO/NECO model #302 (gongs 41-A and 41-B), but rather
like that of a WECO/NECO model #500/554, gongs 54-A and 55-A. When Jimmy
Stewart answers the phone, you do see it as a WECO/NECO model #302,
though. But when the second telephone call rings several minutes later,
the ringing is still that of the old WECO steel ringer-box.

One other telco topic in "Vertigo" is when Jimmy Stewart is early in the
movie, when he is at "Midge's" (Barbara Bel-Geddes') apartment. He
mentions that he needs to call Gavin Elster, an old college friend. The
number is a 'MIssion' number. I _assume_ that in 1958 there was an
exchange in San Francisco named 'MIssion'. Of course, most movies made
in the "good-old-days" referred to all telephone numbers with EXchange
names, or if in a small town or rural area, in all numbers (and possible
party line station letters) but as five-digits or less.


MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

------------------------------

From: John McHugh <JMCHUGH@logis.org>
Subject: Telecommunications Resources Survey
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:28:00 -0500


Dear Colleagues,

Our municipality is revising its Comprehensive Plan, as required by
Minnesota State Statute.  This version will have a telecommunications
component in it.

As we survey our telecommunications resources, we already know the
capability and location of facilities for the upgraded TWI cable tv
system serving our city.  However, specifics about US West's plant,
switches and capabilities aren't readily at hand.
The MN PUC said they didn't know, but did send us a list of companies
who have been granted certificates of authorization for local service,
and the name of a USWC regulatory affairs office representative.
I'm sure others, as part of a business plan or comprehensive plan, have
flattened the learning and lingo curve.  Can you recommend any
information resources, www-based or otherwise, which I can reference so
we ask productive questions and get useful answers from the right
wire-line and wireless teleco operators?

Also, in a recent development, the Benton Foundation's Communications
Headlines listserv had this summary in their 10.7.97 edition:

Title:  Electric Outlets Could Be Link To the Internet
Source: Wall Street Journal   <http://wsj.com/> (B6)
Author: Guatam Naik
Issue:  Infrastructure
Description: Engineers claim they have developed technology that would
allow people to make phone calls and access the Internet at high speeds
through the electrical outlets in walls. (How fast? Like the speed of
light, man). If the technology developed by United Utilities PLC and
Northern Telecom Ltd is successful, it would transform the world's power
lines into major conduits on the information superhighway and give
electrical companies easy entree into the phone and Internet access
business. The companies believe the technology is "ready for mass
market" and will announce plans at a press conference tomorrow. "At long
last, the local monopoly of the incumbent telecom operators is about to
be demolished," said a spokesman.
(c)Benton Foundation, 1997. Redistribution of this email publication --
both internally and externally -- is encouraged if it includes this
message.

What do you readers think?  Will Buck and Flash arrive sooner than
believed?


Grateful for your insights,

John McHugh
Cable TV Office @ City Hall
5005 Minnetonka Boulevard
St. Louis Park, MN 55416
jmchugh@ci.saint-louis-park.mn.us
612-924-2660
fax-924-2175

------------------------------

From: course@socrates.berkeley.edu
Subject: Simulation of an ATM-Based Network (Course)
Date: 11 Oct 1997 17:44:16 GMT
Organization: Data Communication and Newtorking Services


          Announcing a hands-on short course in Boston, Massachusetts
          November 5-7, 1997
          "SIMULATION OF AN ATM-BASED NETWORK"
          with William E. Stephens, Ph.D. and Christopher Ward, Ph.D.,
          both of the David Sarnoff Research Center, Princeton, N.J.
          
          This short course examines key issues involved in simulating
          high-performance local and wide area networks. Topics covered
          include:
          
          High-Speed Transport Protocols, Simulation Steps, System
          Simulation Considerations, ATM Switch Architectures, and ATM
          Signaling. The course is instructed by William E. Stephens,
          Head of the Wireless and ATM Networking Group at the David
          Sarnoff Research Center in Princeton, NJ and Christopher Ward,
          technical staff at Sarnoff.
          
          More information?  
          
          Call  (510) 642-4151
          Fax (510) 642-6027
          Electronic Mail to: course@unx.berkeley.edu

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TELECOM Digest     Wed, 15 Oct 97 09:35:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 282

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Toll-Fraud via Remote-Access to Call-Forwarding (Chris Telesca)
    Book Review: "Mobile Data Communications Systems" (Rob Slade)
    "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (J.D. Baldwin)
    Number Pooling in Virginia (Tad Cook)
    Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll (Al Varney)

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From: ctelesca@pagesz.net (Chris Telesca)
Subject: Toll-Fraud via Remote-Access to Call-Forwarding
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:42:57 -0500
Organization: Pagesz.net


Hello again!  I have posted several messages to this group over the
last 17 months or so about some problems I was having with someone
apparently hacking the PIN number to a Remote-Access to
Call-Forwarding service, remotely forwarding my phone number to
long-distance numbers without my knowledge or permission.  It wasn't
until a friend of mine called me on another line to tell me that
someone other than me answered on my line that I knew something was
up.  

According to my phone bill, I am supposed to have call-forwarded
LD calls identified by a special calling rate code on my bill.  But
(at least according to both BellSouth (the phone company supplying the
local phone service and the call-forwarding service) and to AT&T (my
LD provider), the reason why the code doesn't show up is because I
don't use BellSouth as my LD provider, and that the only way that
BellSouth would have to provide that information is if I change from
AT&T to BellSouth as my LD provider.  I don't want to change to
BellSouth because I like paying AT&T $0.10 per minute for dial-direct
calls (through the One Rate Plus plan).

At first I complained to both BellSouth and AT&T, but I didn't get 
anywhere after playing lots of phone tag.  Neither company would 
give me enough information about: how the R-A to C-F service worked; 
how the calls are billed; and about other fraud (in fact everybody says
I'm the first person to call and complain about this type of toll-fraud).
After getting nowhere with the phone companies, I finally filed a 
complaint with my State's Public Utility Commission.  At first I thought 
this was the right thing to do but now I'm not so sure that this will 
accomplish much.  In fact, the PUC might be blocking or holding-back
the phone companies here in NC from making changes in the service to not
place smaller teleco's at a disadvantage.  And now another interesting 
twist has occurred.

This past Friday I called BellSouth repair service to report a
suspected problem with my *66 service (calls back a busy number) at
about 2:45PM, after having been logged-on to my ISP at various times
throughout the day.  After reporting the problem, I logged back on for
about ten minutes, then called a friend in Fayetteville and talked for
about five minutes, then left the house at about 3:10PM for about two
hours, returning home around 5:30PM. When I got home, I went to use
the phone and heard a stutter dial tone, indicating that I had a
Memory Call voice-mail message.  The message was time-stamped at
3:16PM that day, and was from someone with the BellSouth repair
service saying that my *66 feature was working fine, but that my phone
number was forwarded to a long-distance number.  I finally got in
touch with this repair person ans was told that the number my call was
forwarded to belonged to a friend in Maryland.  Problem: I didn't
forward my phone to her number.  At this time, the phone company
either can't (or won't) tell me when the call was forwarded, if any LD
calls were made and billed to me, or where the call that inititated
the R-A to C-F call came from (it's for security purposes).  I'm still
waiting for someone with BellSouth Security to call me about this.

An engineer with the PUC says he doesn't want to help me with this
problem, because he thinks he can use his time better.  He also told
me that he thinks the phone comanies don't want to solve this problem
because it isn't worth their time to solve it (apparently it costs
more to solve it in terms of labor rates for technicians and engineers
as opposed to the charges involved).  He also says I should drop the
service.

I think that this is a poor attitude for a public servant to take with
an issue like this.  I am also bothered by the fact that somehow my
phone number is being forwarded by someone other than myself) to LD
numbers (some of which somehow are numbers I occasionally call).  The
only way somone other than myself could get that number is to: access
my Voice-Mailbox (where my friend left me a message with her
relatively- new phone number); my Caller-ID box (a Radio Shack Caller
ID System 250 - can someone cause the CID box to remotely download
information and/or somehow forward calls to a number stored on the CID
box?); or that someone at the phone company is accessing my PIN number
to R-A to C-F and/or Voice Mail (R-A to C-F PIN is 4 characters long
ans set by phone co, Voice Mail PIN can be set by me and presumably
can be read by someone at phone co) and trying to screw with me to
make it look like there is no fraudulent use of R-=A to C-F by anyone
other than myself - thereby making this look to be a frivolous
complaint to the PUC that the PUC will likely dismiss?  Any help or
information would be appreciated.  E-mail or call at (919)676-2597
(home phone with voice mail) or (919)982-0866 (digital pager).  Please
 -- don't try to hack the PIN and forward any more calls please! ;-)


Chris Telesca

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:48:39 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Mobile Data Communications Systems"


BKMDCMSY.RVW   970407
 
"Mobile Data Communications Systems", Peter Wong/David Britland, 1995,
0-89006-751-1, U$59.00
%A   Peter Wong
%A   David Britland
%C   685 Canton St., Norwood, MA   02062
%D   1997
%E   John Walker
%G   0-89006-751-1
%I   Artech House Publishers
%O   U$59.00 617-769-9750 800-225-9977 fax: 617-769-6334 artech@world.std.com
%P   189
%S   The Artech House Mobile Communications Series
%T   Mobile Data Communications Systems
 
According to the preface, this is a less technical book intended for
students, salespeople, and marketers.  By and large, the book does
cover the material on a conceptual level, and a number of the ideas
are presented in a way that does not require recourse to mathematics.
Topics dealt with include modulation techniques, radio
characteristics, error control, specific proprietary networks,
analogue and digital cellular, mobil data networks, wireless LANs,
applications, and the future.
 
While most of the material should be accessible to the determined
reader, the author's definition of "minimal" mathematics *does* seem
to contain one heck of a lot of formulae.  And, unfortunately, in a
number of cases, the explanations fall short, and the equations are
the only explanation available.
 
The sections on applications are a bit of a disappointment, as well.
Most of the discussion is limited to the usual point-of-sale or paging
functions.  There is little exploration of possible future uses, or
even functions such as broadcast information.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKMDCMSY.RVW   970407


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca

------------------------------

From: baldwin@netcom.com (J.D. Baldwin)
Subject: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Organization: Revealed on a need-to-know basis.
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:53:28 GMT


OK, so I got this SkyTel "Sky Word Plus" pager yesterday and I've
tested it out a bit and it seems to work as advertised.  Other people
in my company have expressed an interest in just how reliable this
thing is going to be.  Unfortunately, the marketing junk enclosed with
the unit is pretty short on technical details (no surprise) and
Customer Service seemed pretty unprepared to deal with customers who
express an interest in the workings of this thing.

So here I am, asking c.d.t, which seems an appropriate group for this
sort of discussion.

The SWP pager has three "levels" of service, depending where you are:
Full Service, Basic Service and Storing Messages.  What you're getting
at any given moment depends on where you are relative to the company's
transmitters and is displayed in text on the unit.  (Coverage in
southern Michigan is pretty good.)  Here's what the levels mean:

Full Service - Pages received are confirmed as received by the unit,
apparently with some kind of checksum (?), and messages received as
less than complete or garbled are re-sent.

Basic Service - Pages received are not confirmed, but if you get a
garbled one (or miss one), this fact will be detected (how?) when
you get back to Full Service coverage, and any problems will be
corrected at that time.

Storing Messages - The pager can't even "hear" new pages (like when
you're in the machine room in the basement of a big, metal building),
but will announce itself (how?) when you return to Full Service and
all missed pages will be downloaded at that time.

Obviously, this pager *must* be transmitting something.  (Right?)  I
imagine that it sends some sort of "here I am" code periodically, and
if it receives an acknowledgement, it "knows" it's in Full Service,
otherwise it makes its determination according to whether it can
"hear" other transmissions.

What happens when it goes from Basic (or storing) to Full Service?  I
surmise that the electronic dialogue goes something like:

PAGER:   "Hey it's me, pager #32E567R9!"
SYSTEM:  "OK, I hear you, #32E567R9.  Send me checksums from any
         unconfirmed messages."
PAGER:   "5F43, 6DAA and 3321."
SYSTEM:  "No, that last one's incorrect, here's the message again:
         [...] and you're missing a message, so here it is:  [...]"
PAGER:   "OK, checksums for those are 332A and 5B52."
SYSTEM:  "Yes, you're up to date now."

How far off is this picture?  And how good is this thing in actual
practice?  How often does the pager try to tell the network where it
is?  What are the frequencies and signal strengths involved?  (I
notice that this thing *eats* batteries at the rate of one AA per
month, according to SkyTel.  So the transmission would seem to be a
significant power burden.)

Any information or pointers would be greatly appreciated, and probably
interesting besides.


 From the catapult of J.D. Baldwin  |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_    Finger baldwin@netcom.com |+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  for PGP public    |+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /         key information.  |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Subject: Number Pooling in Virginia
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:43:11 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Virginia Official Suggests New Area Code Scheme

By Greg Edwards, Richmond Times-Dispatch, Va.
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Oct. 14--Changing the way phone numbers are assigned might delay the
need for a new area code in Northern Virginia, a State Corporation
Commission official says.

In a recent report to the commission, SCC Hearing Examiner Glenn P.
Richardson said that "number pooling" might be the best way to delay a
second Northern Virginia area code now expected to be needed by
late 1999.

Currently phone numbers are assigned to telecommunications carriers in
blocks of 10,000. Those numbers represent all available in a local
exchange code as defined by the first three digits of a seven-digit
phone number.

In number pooling, which is made possible by new technology, phone
numbers are assigned to telecommunications companies in blocks of
1,000 or fewer.  Numbers that are now being held but not used by a
carrier could be re-assigned to other carriers, possibly delaying the
need for a new area code.

Richardson didn't predict how much time could be bought through pooling
before growth makes a new area code inevitable.

Bell Atlantic, the major local phone company in Northern Virginia, has
no objection to number pooling as long as it's done fairly, company
spokesman Paul Miller said. Bell Atlantic prefers, however, that the
state wait until a national standard for pooling is developed, he
said.

During the past two years, because of increasing use of phones, faxes
and pagers, two new area codes have been created in Virginia. In the
western part of the state, the 540 code was carved out of the 703
region, and in Hampton Roads part of the 804 region became 757. A
single area code contains roughly 7.6 million possible phone numbers.

In his report to the SCC, Richardson also recommended that when a new
area code can be avoided no longer that Northern Virginia be split
into two geographic regions with Arlington and Alexandria keeping the
current 703 area code and all other Northern Virginia exchanges
assigned a new area code.

Representatives of local phone companies Bell Atlantic and GTE,
however, said their companies favor "overlaying" a second area code
over the same geographic area as the existing 703 area code. If an
overlay were used, businesses wouldn't have to go through the expense
of reprinting their stationery and other materials because their area
code had changed, the two companies said.

Because local phone companies and long-distance carriers, such as
AT&T, couldn't agree last year on how the new area code should be put
in place in Northern Virginia, the decision was left to the SCC.

In recommending a geographic split of the region, Richardson reported
that a split had been the preference of most people commenting on the
issue. He also reasoned that a split would mean local calls could
still be made by dialing seven digits as opposed to the 10 digits that
are required when making local calls in an area with an overlay.

Bell Atlantic's Miller, however, said a split doesn't eliminate 10-digit
dialing. Northern Virginians who make local calls into the District of
Columbia already have to dial 10 digits and, if the 703 region is split,
those making local calls into the new area code will have to dial
10 digits, he said.

Richardson's report is available on the Internet at www.state.va.us/scc.
The SCC will accept comments on the report until Oct. 24.

------------------------------

From: varney@ihgp2.ih.lucent.com (Al Varney)
Subject: Re: 101-XXXX For Traditional Intra-LATA LEC Toll
Date: 14 Oct 1997 04:35:00 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies, Naperville, IL
Reply-To: varney@lucent.com


In article <telecom17.281.2@telecom-digest.org>, Jeffrey Rhodes
<jeffrey.rhodes@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Al Varney wrote:

>> Switches generally implement two levels of routing.  One is based on
>> dialed digits only -- no carrier code is needed or used.  The other is
>> routing based on carrier code.  Dialed digit analysis can trigger
>> carrier routing (using an interLATA or intraLATA PIC), or the customer
>> can force it with a Carrier Access Code (CAC=101XXXX)...

> Forcing no intra-LATA toll calling unless casually dialed is trickier
> than simply not having a default PIC. I doubt this option is really
> offered since billing and routing are distinctly different processes

   The option certainly exists in the switches -- whether it's
"offered" or not is a tariff issue.  But absence of a default
intraLATA PIC doesn't mean "blocking" an intraLATA call, it means
"route using LEC toll".  To really "block" the non-CAC intraLATA call,
you have to assign a code that effectively means "block any calls that
yield this PIC".

> and most lines have some sort of "free" radius of non-toll intra-LATA
> calling. Calls within this radius are often charged as toll when
> dialed with access codes, ie. so-called casual dialing, either 10XXX
> or 101(0,5,6)XXX.

   Nope.  Calls to a carrier are not TOLL calls from a LEC
perspective.  If you dial 10XXX in front of a free call, the LEC
passes the call to the IXC (or whatever the XXX code selects),
assuming the PUC allows such calls to be handled by an IXC.
Per-second access charges are billed to the IXC, but the LEC collects
nothing from the caller, and the IXC is perfectly free to not charge
the caller either.  In fact, the LEC doesn't require the IXC to ever
charge callers for calls, so long as the access charge bill is payed
by the IXC.  :)

> The XXXX carrier can refuse to accept such calls dialed as 101XXXX1+
> in order to force 101XXXX0+ when a suitable billing arrangement is not
> in place for casual dialing.

   Carriers are free to refuse any call (except, perhaps, to their
customer service number).

> The XXXX carrier can even require the dialing carrier's network to
> block the casual calling at their network. This comes up with
> traditional inter-LATA carriers who must pay per-second access
> charges, even for calls that they do not wish to complete!

   Intra-LATA carriers pay those same access charges.
   
> When do LATAs go away? What is keeping GTE from converting all their
> local customers to use GTE long distance? That might not go over too
> well with the public (or the state PUCs) but does the Telecom Act of
> 1996 require a CLEC or ILEC to provide choices for "toll" calling? I'd
> kind of like it if I could extend my GTE local unlimited ISDN voice
> and data calling for $50 a month to "any" distance ;-)

   The RBOC ILECs are required to offer equal-access to callers and
IXCs by a consent decree.  GTE is required to offer the same in some
areas by a similar ruling.  IntraLATA, intraSTATE rules are up to the
individual PUCs.  Most of the ILECs fall under PUC rules that require
them to support equal access, if they want to be considered "local
exchange carriers".  The Telecom Act of 1996 didn't change any of
those rules.  Nor did it prohibit GTE from making your free calling
area larger or smaller.  But I don't see a lot of carriers in the near
future beating a path to your door to offer 24-hour fixed-price
(cheap) calls to the world.

   If you were, say, WorldComm, how could you keep the shareholders
happy with such a revenue stream?


Al Varney

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TELECOM Digest     Wed, 15 Oct 97 21:54:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 283

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Book Review: "writers.net" by Gach (Rob Slade)
    International Routing Problems? (Joshua G. Fenton)
    New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Lisa Hancock)
    Do AMPS or PCS Cell Sites Send Site IDs? (Greg Monti)
    Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop (Alan Boritz)
    OAN Tries to Keep Up With Integretel (David Jensen)
    POTS Acronym (J. DeBert)
    Communications Technology Magazines (telic@netcom.ca)
    Re: Payphone Prices Going Up (Stanley Cline)
    Re: Payphone Prices Going Up (Bruce Wilson)

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:52:10 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "writers.net" by Gach


BKWRTRNT.RVW   970407
 
"writers.net", Gary Gach, 1997, 0-7615-0641-1, U$22.00/C$29.95
%A   Gary Gach writersnet@hotmail.com
%C   3875 Atherton Road, Rocklin, CA   95765
%D   1997
%G   0-7615-0641-1
%I   Prima Publishing
%O   U$22.00/C$29.95 800-632-8676 fax: 916-632-4405 julieb@indy.primapub.com
%P   400 p.
%T   "writers.net: Every Writer's Essential Guide to Online Resources and      
       Opportunities"
 
Writers, much like teachers, potentially can use anything on the net,
and can use the net for anything.  Most of Gach's book is a list of
Web sites and other net resources for different writing genres:
science fiction, romance, mystery, poetry, juvenile, screenwriting,
playwriting, technical writing, soaps, and journalism.  Other chapters
deal with the mechanics and business of writing, such as networking,
money, research, magazines, books, self-publishing, multimedia,
censorship, and copyright.  An appendix on Internet applications
quickly covers basic net usage.
 
The listings may or may not be annotated and the annotation (if any)
is likely to be subjective.  The coverage is by no means complete.
Under technical writing, alt.books.technical is mentioned, but not
biz.books.technical or misc.books.technical.  The section on book
reviews doesn't mention any of the newsgroups at all, not even the
moderated rec.arts.books.reviews.
 
The organization of the book could use some work.  Both chapter
groupings and the placement of material within chapters are sometimes
odd.
 
While the anecdotal style may not be too helpful in a reference, it
certainly makes the book a more appealing read.  This is particularly
true of the success stories of writers who have used the net.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKWRTRNT.RVW   970407


roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca

------------------------------

From: Joshua G. Fenton <joshuaf@adc-qc.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:33:09 -0600
Subject: International Routing Problems?


I'm interested in hearing about people's experiences in completeing
international calls to the UK and other countries. I'm having a VERY
strange routing problem, and though "Long Distance Repair" is working
on it, I know that the experience of these readers will give me a
better idea of what's going on.

Calls are being placed from 309.793.xxxx (Ameritech) to a UK mobile
telephone (Orange Network) on +44.7970.xxxxxx via AT&T.  (I currently
subscribe to AT&T One Rate International and pay $0.12/min/24hr both
to the UK and domestically. Yes, we make calls at all hours.  Can
anyone top that for $3/mo fee?)

The cell number is a new one, and works fine from within the UK.  I 
tried to place the call, and got 'your international call cannot be 
completed as dialled, please check the number or call your operator 
to help you 024T'.  After 00# and an explanation, the AT&T operator 
put the call through on the first attempt.  A subsequent direct dial 
attempt completed normally.

Next day, get the same 'cannot be completed' recording.  Call to AT&T
International LD repair gets me to Bobbie (who was wonderful).  She
got on a tie line of some kind (Digital cross connect, or what?) out
of the DesMoines IA 4E tandem, and was able to complete the call,
which went to voice mail.  However, after several call attempts, she
kept getting mixed results.  Occasionally a single pitched solid tone,
sometimes completion to voice mail.  However, calls from 309.793.xxxx
still got the 'your international call cannot be completed...'  She
referred it out, and suggested that there might be a routing problem
from the LEC on SOME of the trunks, leaving off a digit or two,
indicating the changes in allowable length of phone numbers.  However,
the solid tone seemed to be a problem on the other end, once the call
hit the international gateway.

When I asked her why I was getting a message from a DesMoines switch
(three hours away) when there is a huge AT&T building just accross the
river (four minutes) in Davenport, IA, she responded that Davenport is
just a POP, and that the LEC (Ameritech) is responsible for the call
until it is handed off at the toll tandem.

Questions:

*What mechanism do repair personnel use to 'get a line' on a local 
tandem from wherever they are?

*Is it common for the LEC to be responsible for carrying a call such 
long distances?

*What is the occasional solid tone?  Is that at the international 
gateway?

*Is there another carrier involved between the international gateway 
and Orange (or any other cell provider, for that matter?)  How does 
the international gateway work?


Thanks in advance!

Joshua
joshuaf 'at'adc-qc.com

------------------------------

From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: 15 Oct 1997 02:02:56 GMT
Organization: Net Access BBS


Recently I got cellular phone service.  I previously posted my experiences
dealing with the sales people.  Now here's some notes on usage ...

 1) How do people drive and talk?
    For me at least, there's no way I can drive my car and talk on the 
    phone, it's simply too distracting with traffic.  Yes, I know when we
    drive we freely talk to the person next to us, but somehow it's
    different on the phone.  Considering all the times I was nearly
    hit by a distracted driver talking on the phone, I don't know how
    people do it.

    Dialing while driving is impossible, at least on my phone.  The buttons
    are pretty tiny, I noticed on other models the keypad is bigger.
    (The phone does have a memory, which I assume does help dialing.)


 2) The clock is deceiving:  I am billed from [send] to [end] in whole
    minutes.  It takes a few seconds to release the call after you hit [end]
    which can add another minute to the call.  If you think the party didn't
    answer and they did, you are billed for the call.


 3) No quick hangups:  From the wired phone, I often call people who I know
    have answering machines, and hang up after 3 rings if I don't feel like
    leaving a message.  You can't do that on a cell phone because of the [end]
    delay.


 4) Ringing delay.  When someone calls me, they'll hear at least 3 rings
    before the cell phone starts to ring.  A lot of people these days don't
    let phones ring very long before hanging up.  I must instruct any
    callers to let it ring a long time.  If I'm driving, I'll need a moment
    to get the phone out and to answer it.  In a crowded location, I may 
    not hear the phone.


 5) No charge for phone off.  I once called someone's cell phone via the
    roaming number long distance and was billed even though his phone was
    off.  However, I called myself from a pay phone with the phone off,
    got the recording, and got my money back.  Callers can be assured no one
    will be billed on either end if the cell phone is turned off.


 6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
    develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
    suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
    That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
    some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
    recharge.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:02:05 -0400
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com>
Subject: Do AMPS or PCS Cell Sites Send Site IDs?


In many areas, wireless phone companies have set up tracking systems
which can be used by law enforcement to "find" cellular callers who
have dialed 911 but who don't quite know where they are.  Since the
cellular company keeps track of which cell site is communicating with
a call in progress, they can go to some sort of lookup table and
estimate the mobile user's location by looking at the sequence of
coverage areas from particular cell towers (or sectors within those
towers).

Now, I have the opposite question.  Does a cell site (or a PCS site
for that matter) send out its site ID periodically?  I am interested
in a receive-only application would need to know periodically where it
is located in a general sort of way -- such as the city or county.  I
am already aware that cellular towers send out a System ID, which
tells all the mobiles what company is serving that area.  For my
purposes, the System ID is not accurate enough (some systems are huge,
sprawling affairs that cover several states, every tower of which may
send the same System ID).

Reply privately to me unless you think there is interest on the NewsGroup.
Thanks.


Greg Monti  Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
gmonti@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~gmonti

------------------------------

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)
Subject: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:33:24 -0400


Ever have a service provider who insists you read their spam email,
while YOU'RE paying connect time charges, and they refuse to stop
after you tell them nicely?  Compuserve appears to be doing that now.
A couple of weeks ago they started sending me the electronic version
of the magazine they've been sending me as junk (paper) mail for
years, for an account I have there.  I emailed customer service and
told them to stop sending *any* unsolicited junk email, and they
responded that they don't know who sent it (it had their CIS id in the
header), but they'd get on it and get back to me.  That was on 9/23,
and I haven't heard a word since.

Then CIS followed up with some propoganda on their AOL purchase deal,
and then again with more junk mail about alternative billing plans.  I
called a customer service person to ask if my witholding payment on my
credit card would encourage them to take my request seriously.
Although she was able to see that I've been on that system for a long
time (almost 17 years), she said that that wouldn't help, and they
have no way to stop it (curious, since it's coming from a Compuserve
administrative address).

Although simple arrogant carelessness may be a convenient description
of Compuserve's recent spamming binge, could a feeble attempt to pump
up revenues by forcing customers to spend more on connect time be in
preparation of the Worldcom/AOL sale?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:49:37 -0500
From: david.jensen@teldta.com (David Jensen)
Subject: OAN Tries to Keep Up With Integretel


PAT-
     
Integretel isn't the only bottomfeeder out there. Last week our local 
phone bill included a charge of $5.10 for a _local_ collect call. I 
have no idea why anyone in our company would accept any collect call, 
but I had our local telco get us the number of OAN and called their 
customer service number. Well, it cost them some money on their 800 
number, but customer service has a completely different meaning to 
OAN.
     
After five minutes on the phone with their poor customer service
wretch, I had learned that the alternate operator service might have
been called Americom, but the CSR was mumbling everything, so I really
couldn't be sure. I did learn the remarkable facts that (1) this AOS
does not have a phone number and (2) there were no supervisory
personnel at the call center at 3pm CDT. She assured me that a
supervisory person would call back, but since that was four days ago,
I've quit holding my breath.
     
After this totally useless phone call, we asked our LEC to bounce the
charges back, which they agreed to and I have decided that no one who
deals through OAN will get paid until they have been approved as
qualified vendors.
     
Now, here is what the FCC can do:
     
1. All providers must provide a decision-maker's number to call 
   centers and billing organizations.
2. Call centers must provide that number to customers. 
3. LECs need not bill for companies that hide behind billing 
   organizations like OAN and Integretel.
4. All collect service providers must clearly announce who they are 
   and what the charges will be: "This is AOS-the ripoff specialists. We 
   have a collect call for anyone from Michael Foobar. If you accept, the 
   charges will be $5.00 for the first three minutes plus $.75 per minute 
   thereafter. To accept, press 2 and state your name. If you do not 
   accept, please hang up now." No one else is allowed to bill you for 
   something that you are not allowed to know the price of, why did the 
   FCC drop the ball on this?

------------------------------

From: J. DeBert <jdebert@hypatia.com>
Subject: POTS Acronym
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:05:28 -0700


In "Keeping Up With The Times" I suggest a small modification to the
acronym "POTS":

Currently POTS is known as "Plain Old Telephone Service".

But there's also "Plain Old Terminal Service" which, of course, can be
represented by the same acronym.

Rather than having POTS refer to only one specialised segment of
telecom (telephone services) it should refer to generic telecom
services such as data and other telecom services as well, hence "Plain
Old Telecom Services".

Why? Telecom starts with a "T" and it covers every form of remote
communications.

A POTS terminal, for example, cannot show more than one display-full of
information, such as a VT terminal. Likewise, POTS telephone service
cannot do more than one thing at a time. POTS is the old-style,
single-session, single-user, one-thing-at-a-time kind of service in
every area of telecommunication.

What do you think?

This occurred to me after my experiences trying to use such limited
("Glaucomic"?) services as single-window VT terminals in a work
environment as well as telephone services that will not do what I
needed to do, such as view several different screens of data
simultaneously, which I could do easily with X/Windows -- but _NOT_
with MS Windows -- and as try to contact several different people by
phone at the same time. In an environment where you cannot use (read
"Prohibited from using") paper to take notes from one screen to
compare with other screens of info, it gets exceedingly frustrating,
having to call up different displays while trying to remember all the
details of all the other screens -- this is from my experiences with
Consilium's Worsktream on VAX/VMS -- and trying to keep notes for all
the people on the phone as well -- on a dedicated 5E PBX switch -- as
well. (example: What takes 1-2 hours with POTS terminals takes me
10-30 minutes with X/Windows, even with paper for notes.)

Quick personal opinion:

In a job where one is expected to do several things at once, and
quickly, POTS wastes a lot of time and money! Let's get out of the
single-screen, single user, per use Legacy mentality.


jd ("opinionated, aint he?")
jdebert@hypatia.com

Don't read Spam! EAT IT!

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From: Telic <telic@netcom.ca>
Subject: Communications Technology Magazines
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:20:25 GMT
Organization: NETCOM Canada


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From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: Payphone Prices Going Up
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 03:11:32 GMT
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:47:45 -0700, in comp.dcom.telecom Linc Madison
wrote:

> "Effective 10/7/97, local calls 35 cents" was plastered on the phone
> near the coin slot.  Sure enough, I had to pay $0.35 for this call.

*Already*?!  Was this a LEC payphone, or a COCOT?

Around here (Atlanta), I checked about five payphones over the past
two days, and all were still charging 25c/call.  Granted, Atlanta's
local calling areas, rates, etc., are somewhat different than
California's, but still ...

> California law is explicit and clear: local payphone calls are to be
> no more than $0.20 for the first 15 minutes.  However, the federal law
> now pre-empts local authority, even though that pre-emption is
> blatantly unconstitutional: a local call is clearly INTRAstate

There are isolated cases where a local call can be intERstate
(Chattanooga, Memphis, etc.), but traditionally these have been
handled by agreements between the PSCs/PUCs of the states in question
(TN/GA for Chattanooga, etc.)

I still agree that local payphone rates are a local matter, just like
local residence/business line rates are, and deserve handling by the
STATES, withOUT FCC interference.

One concern I have (and one the COCOT authorities at the GA PSC also
share) is that it will be much harder to police the uniform
application of local call rates at COCOTs, such as the ones that treat
numbers in NPA 706 local to Atlanta as "toll".  Now, a COCOT owner
could, say, charge 25c for calls inside 404/770, and charge 35c/min to
Jasper 706-692, and *supposedly* the PSC could do nothing about it --
even though Jasper is as local as Marietta or Newnan, according to the
GPSC's edicts.  (Argument: "Market rate" ... "If Jasper can pull in
35c/min, let's charge it.")  This seems like it may lead to rate abuse
in California, Chicago, and other "zone rate" states/areas, or local
calling areas that straddle NPAs, such as Atlanta and Chattanooga
(where I've seen the same damn thing, with certain local NXXs being
charged as toll.)

Hopefully the FCC will understand that in flat-rate calling areas,
such as Atlanta, all *local* calls must be charged the same,
regardless of distance, and will allow the GPSC and other regulators
to fine/turn off COCOTs that "overcharge" on specific local calls,
such as the 706-local areas.  For zone/band rates, the application of
rates must still be uniform -- calls to point A in band C should be
charged the same as calls to point B in band C, even if they are in
different NPAs, etc.

> And today we see the FCC continuing with its ridiculous rules on
> reimbursement to payphone owners for calls to toll-free numbers.

COCOT owners do not deserve windfalls, particularly when they have
been at best ignorant and at worst scummy scam artists, over the
years.

> First of all, the per-call charge is ridiculously high, even at $0.28,

Even 28c/call won't guarantee that COCOTs will allow 888/877/etc...
(some in Atlanta STILL DO NOT ALLOW 888 AS FREE, AND CHARGE AS MUCH AS
$3/CALL, IN CLEAR *DEFIANCE* OF GPSC AND FCC ORDERS!)

> and secondly, it shouldn't be a flat fee per call.  I think that a
> rate of $0.05 for the first minute and $0.01 per additional minute

At the very least, there should be reduced rates for paging carriers.
Requiring calls to pager numbers to carry the same charges as to other
numbers is messy and could result in substantial increases in pager
charges, or paging carriers blocking 800 access from payphones.  One
solution suggested has been to implement a "caller-pays-from-payphone"
8xx NPA; that defeats the purpose of 8xx NPAs, to allow calls withOUT
coins or additional payment to the caller.

> Payphone deregulation has been an unmitigated failure, far beyond any
> problems with deregulation of other aspects of the telephone system.
> What benefits has the CONSUMER seen from payphone deregulation??

Absolutely NONE.  The COCOT, and associated inmate-calling and AOS,
industries are among the sleaziest, worst-telecom-educated parts of
the telecom industry.  Payphone "deregulation", IMO, amounts to a
license to abuse the public, even more so than it already has.  It
cannot be allowed to happen.


Stanley Cline                         somewhere near Atlanta, GA, USA
roamer1(at)pobox.com               http://scline.home.mindspring.com/
spam not wanted here!    help outlaw spam - see http://www.cauce.org/

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:49:35 -0400
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Payphone Prices Going Up


In article <telecom17.280.4@telecom-digest.org>, Telecom@Eureka.vip.
best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison) writes:

> California law is explicit and clear: local payphone calls are to be
> no more than $0.20 for the first 15 minutes.  However, the federal law
> now pre-empts local authority, even though that pre-emption is
> blatantly unconstitutional: a local call is clearly INTRAstate
> commerce, and thus not subject to federal regulation.  Congress and
> the FCC have unquestionably overstepped their legal authority.

For many years the toll separations process (revenue sharing) between the
LECs and AT&T recognized that local exchange plant was both that and an
integral part of the long-distance network; and the Federal government's
long taken the position that anything which affects or is affected by
interstate commerce is fully within its jurisdiction.  (FWIW, I agree with
you that the Feds should keep their noses out of any aspect of setting
local rates, including the cost of making local calls from pay phones.) 


Bruce Wilson

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 16 Oct 97 22:25:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 284

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    San Diego LEC Competition "A Mess" (Tad Cook)
    New US West Calling Card (73115.1041@compuserve.com)
    Employment Opportunity: Network Management Tech in Chicago (M. Kennedy)
    Question re: ROLM CBX (Lincoln DeCoursey)
    Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Ben Combee)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Brett Frankenberger)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Jay R. Ashworth)

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Subject: San Diego LEC Competition "A Mess"
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:55:18 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


San Diego Area Local Telephone Competition a Mess, Watchdog Group Says

By Bradley J. Fikes, North County Times, Escondido, Calif.
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

SAN DIEGO--Oct. 15--Competition for local telephone service has turned
into a confusing mess for consumers, according to a report released
Tuesday by the watchdog Utility Consumers Action Network.

Poor customer service, hard-to-understand pricing structures and
inaccurate information bedevil San Diegans who want to choose another
local carrier than the previous monopoly, Pacific Bell, said Barry
Fraser, a UCAN staff attorney who prepared the report.

Sprint, MCI and AT&T "seem to be fumbling the ball" in the local
markets, Fraser said at a press conference Tuesday. "They're providing
mediocre customer service, they don't seem to be geared up and ready
to market these services. They lay some of the blame on Pac Bell, Pac
Bell lays some of the blame on the competitors. I think the blame
needs to be spread everywhere," including the regulators who failed to
plan adequately for competition, he said.

The report recommends creating an independent entity to keep an eye on
local telephone service and provide low-cost information on services and
prices. This information, in turn, would allow California consumers and
businesses to easily compare the service provider offerings, thus aiding
market forces to drive down prices and increase service quality.

The cost would be $850,000 annually for the first five years, and
gradually phased out during the next five years, the report estimated.

After that time, the entity "will have developed the required
expertise and authority to either sell its information or secure
private grants," the report stated.

UCAN normally receives two or three complaints a month on local
service, Fraser said, but the numbers began rising after local
telephone competition was introduced last December. UCAN received 31
complaints over the summer, according to the report. Fraser said the
increase in complaints was mirrored at the California Public Utilities
Commission.

"We're concerned there's going to be so much confusion in the
marketplace and so much perception of confusion in the marketplace
that people are simply going to decide it's not worth it to even look
at the competitors," Fraser said.

The report blasted the local call rate structure, which include arcane
terminology such as "local toll calls", "zone use measure," "mileage
bands" and "IntraLATA." These make it difficult to make an
apples-to-apples cost comparison.

"The `transaction costs' involved in researching and then switching
service far outweigh most of the saving available to small customers,"
the report stated. However, Fraser said, even under the current
system, many consumers who do their homework and compare the various
plans can gain"significant cost savings."

"San Diegans who make a lot of calls to Oceanside and other outlying
areas... I would encourage those people to make the switch and test
the waters," Fraser said.

The report ranked MCI as the best local carrier. MCI was praised for
having the best prices for daytime toll calls of 17 miles or more and
the lowest monthly fee. Pacific Bell got the worst rating, criticized
for having the highest rates for local service and the most
complicated rate price structure.

But even MCI's rating left room for improvement. Moreover, UCAN staff
attorney Charles Carbone said he was transferred to MCI's long
distance service without permission or "slammed," when he signed up
for MCI's local service. Despite repeated calls to MCI, Carbone
reported, the problem had not been corrected.

UCAN will ship a price and service comparison guide free to those who
send a self-addressed stamped enveloped to UCAN headquarters at 1717
Kettner Blvd. 105, San Diego CA 92101.

False or erroneous billing by third parties is a common complaint in
the report. It said Pacific Bell allowed billing of customers for
calls fraudulently placed from prisons and mental institutions, using
a long distance carrier, ZPDI.

Pacific Bell told those who complained to contact ZPDI to apply for
refunds, "thus forcing many customers to deal with an out of state
company with even worse customer service procedures than Pacific
Bell."

UCAN reported that a member's survey of 20 neighbors revealed 16 had
received an erroneous billing from ZPDI, as well as members of UCAN
staff and Pacific Bell employees.

After the scam was reported in the press, Pacific Bell said it had
forced ZPDI to issue a large amount of refunds, but has not disclosed
how many refunds were issued, the UCAN report said.

ZPDI is far from the only company that bills unauthorized charges,
according to the report.

"These charges are often labeled `conference service' or `collect'
call, but are generally connected to overseas phone scams, sex-line
calls or scams similar to that accomplished through ZPDI," the report
said.

"Generally, if customers complain to Pacific Bell, the charges are
removed.  However, many customers either do not see the charges or
consider the $1-$5 as too small to bother contesting. Because it may
take repeated calls to get through to a Pacific Bell representative,
many customers have little incentive to take the time necessary to
contest a charge."

Pacific Bell termed the report, while well-intentioned, "misleading,"
because many of the problems it referred to have in fact been solved.

"The bottom line is, there is competition," said Pacific Bell
spokesman Maurice Luque. "You can change your local service tomorrow."

Pacific Bell has the capacity to handle daily about 4,000 customer
requests for service with a competitor, and now gets about 2,000
daily, Luque said.

Pacific Bell's parent company, SBC Communications, has spent about
$1.2 billion dollars to ensure its service areas are opened to
competition, Luque said.

Beside obeying the law, Luque said Pacific Bell has an economic
incentive to ensure fair competition in its markets: it can only offer
long distance service when regulators decide competition is effective
at the local level.

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From: 73115.1041@NOSPAMcompuserve.com
Subject: New US West Calling Card
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:21:38 GMT


I received an unsolicited "calling card" in the mail from US West.
(Well, I didn't ask for the one they sent six months ago either, but
since I'm a residential subscriber I suppose they just assumed ...)
Anyway, it appears that US West is trying to cash in on the debit
calling card fad.

They've redesigned the traditional embossed "calling card."  The new
card no longer has embossed numbers and names, but rather uses printed
data. (I've noticed this on a number of other non-credit cards I have
received recently.  I wonder if it's cheaper to produce the card or
are they trying to avoid anyone attempting to use the card in a retail
transaction? The card still has the standard mag stripe on the back.)

The letter enclosed makes a big deal about US Wests .20/minute
anywhere rate. Which actually isn't bad for a card that doesn't have
to be prepaid. Closer inspection reveals this not to be such a good
deal.

	Local Calls within US West Region:	.50/flat rate     
		(Coin Calls are .25 now, likely to go up as US West
		has managed to get .35 in most other states)
	Local Calls elsewhere:			.20/minute
	Long Distance				.20/minute
	Directory 				.95/limited to two
                                                    requests
	Message Delivery			.95/message
	(I suspect this is where they intercept after 3 or 4 rings)
	Conference Call				.40/minute/participant
	SpeedDial				.20/minute
		(No explanation for this.)

So far, so good. The local rates aren't great but basic calls are ok.
But then the fine print: All calls other than US West local are
surcharged 80 cents. Ouch. That makes calls less than 5 or so minutes
very expensive.

They also caution that these rates only apply if you use the US West
800 number. Calls using the traditional 0+ are billed at the rates of
the carrier handling the call.

Oh, and one final item. The letter that came with the previous card
made a big deal about how secure the card was because the PIN was not
printed on the card. This card has a special area on the back reserved
to allow you to write your PIN on. Go figure.


Ken

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From: Michael Kennedy <m.kennedy.glt@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Employment Opportunity: Network Management Technician in Chicago
Date: 14 Oct 1997 20:57:30 GMT
Organization: Great Lakes Technologies


Great Lakes Data & Voice Technologies - a leading Value Added Reseller
of network communications products and services across the USA - is
looking to add to our Network Management Center in downtown
Chicago. May you know someone or yourself that would be interested in
this position. Thanks :-) http://www.greatlakestech.com


Employment Requisition: NMC-0997 
Description: Network Management Technician 
Type: Full Time 
Location: Chicago, IL. 
Date Required: Immediate 
Requestor: Don Franklin 312/258-0600 Ext. 17 
Mailto: D.Franklin.GLT@worldnet.att.net

This position requires a self-motivated person with excellent
organizational skills who is experienced or educated in Wide Area Network
(WAN) applications. Exceptional written and verbal skills are necessary, as
the position requires extensive client interface. Basic knowledge of
Microsoft Office Suite, Microsoft Project and Visio are helpful. Experience
or knowledge of Local Area Network applications a plus. 

The Network Management Technician is responsible for remote monitoring,
analyzing and troubleshooting client WAN's. The WAN's typically are hybrid
applications that may consist of voice, data and voice over frame relay
applications and incorporate a variety of manufacturer's products
including, but not limited to, 3COM, Micom, Hypercom, Bay Networks, Cisco,
ADTRAN and Paradyne. PC knowledge and ability to quickly grasp various
management applications is necessary. Additional duties include product
configuration and light shipping and receiving. 

This is a position in a fast paced environment that requires a quick
thinking individual that works well independently and who is able to be
decisive under pressure. 

If you or someone you know is interested in this position, please
respond via e-mail to requestor.

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From: ldecours@frontiernet.net (Lincoln DeCoursey)
Subject: Question re: ROLM CBX
Date: 13 Oct 1997 16:07:51 GMT
Organization: Frontier Internet Rochester N.Y. (716)-777-SURF


My employer, a 50+ store grocery chain in western New York has a PBX
in each location to handle in-store phone communication, as well as
dial-in and dial-out.  Additionally, the stores and offices are
networked together in that from any phone in any of these systems, you
can dial any given phone in any one of the systems by dialing
80-SS-XXX where SS is the store number and XXX is the extension to
dial in that store.

The phones utilized are standard AT&T analog phones.  Each has a
sticker on it which identifies the system as "ROLM CBX," and contains
general instructions for picking up calls, transfering calls, holding
calls, parking calls, etc.

My question deals with the interconnectivity in the system and how it
is achieved.  I am unsure whether calls made to other premises are
carried over the analog telco lines, or if there is some leased line
implementation for the system, but I am intrigued by the ability to
directly ring any given phone in any system.  I would speculate that
each system has an incoming line which picks up and then accepts some
instruction (perhaps DTMF) as to the destination extension.  My caller
ID identified the number which the system used to generate an outgoing
call from the system to my house.  In redialing this number, I get a
high pitched tone upon connection.

I'd like to be able to identify how this interconnectivity works, and
how to get into a location's system through this back-door, as opposed
to the published phone number which connects to the receptionists.
Any resources or instruction would be greatly appreciated.


Lincoln DeCoursey
ldecours@frontiernet.net

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From: combee@techwood.org (Ben Combee)
Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Date: 16 Oct 1997 03:08:54 GMT
Organization: Techwood Broadcasting Foundation -- Austin Bureau
Reply-To: combee@techwood.org


First, while I do work for Motorola's Paging group, these comments are
strictly my own opinion and knowledge and do not represent the
official voice of the company.

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:53:28 GMT, J.D. Baldwin <baldwin@netcom.com> wrote:

> Obviously, this pager *must* be transmitting something.  (Right?)  I
> imagine that it sends some sort of "here I am" code periodically, and
> if it receives an acknowledgment, it "knows" it's in Full Service,
> otherwise it makes its determination according to whether it can
> "hear" other transmissions.

> Any information or pointers would be greatly appreciated, and probably
> interesting besides.

Your description of the system is very close to reality.  The protocol
these guys use is called ReFLEX (TM), an adaptation of the FLEX (TM)
protocol for two-way use.  Each two-way and one-and-a-half-way pager
has a small low-power transmitter on it that periodically sends a "I'm
here" message to the system.  It also sends back page acknowledgments
and can negotiate redelivery of pages.  The basic service areas are
those locations that don't yet have receivers installed, so the pager
can't communicate back to anyone.

ReFLEX (TM) usually is deployed in the 900 MHz paging bands, what is
called narrow-band PCS.  It was originally setup for the Tango pager
in Skytel's two way system that was started in 1996.  However, poor
sales and slow infrastructure investment caused them to suspend new
customers for that.  The 1.5-way pagers, since they put a lower burden
on the network than 2-way pagers, were seen as a way to use that
network while they were continuing their build-up.

One thing to notice -- SkyTel is offering nationwide SkyWord Plus for
a lot less than nationwide 1-way paging.  This is possible because of
lower transmitter usage.  If your pager tells the system its in one
area, the system can direct pages to just those transmitters instead
of firing all the transmitters in the country!  That saves a lot on
bandwidth congestion.


Benjamin L. Combee (combee@techwood.org) <URL:http://www.yak.net/combee/>
 ...if the highlight of your day is prowling through signatures looking for
pithy quotes or neat phrases, then consider a career with the IRS or NSA...

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From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:07:38 GMT


In article <telecom17.283.3@telecom-digest.org>, Lisa Hancock
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

> 6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>    develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>    suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>    That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>    some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>    recharge.

This is a very common, and very unsubstantiated, urban legend.  Under
carefully controlled laboratory conditions, where you repeatedly
partially dischange the cells to the *same level* each time, you can
sometimes get a memory effect to appear, after a lot of cycles.  Under
normal random usage, in which you never fully discharge the batteries,
but always discharge to a different level, the memory effect does not
appear.  (Also, most newer phones won't fully discharge the cells,
prefering instead to shut themselves off when the voltage drops below
a certain level.)

Note that you have (probably) for years been partially discharging
your car battery everytime you start your car, and then immediately
recharging it (with the output of the alternator).  It doesn't develop
memory.  (Of course, it's not NiCad either.)


Brett Frankenberger
brettf@netcom.com

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From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: 16 Oct 1997 15:15:50 GMT
Organization: Ashworth & Associates


On 15 Oct 1997 02:02:56 GMT, Lisa Hancock <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
wrote:

> Recently I got cellular phone service.  I previously posted my experiences
> dealing with the sales people.  Now here's some notes on usage ...
> 
>  1) How do people drive and talk?
>     For me at least, there's no way I can drive my car and talk on the 
>     phone, it's simply too distracting with traffic.  Yes, I know when we
>     drive we freely talk to the person next to us, but somehow it's
>     different on the phone.  Considering all the times I was nearly
>     hit by a distracted driver talking on the phone, I don't know how
>     people do it.

I can drive pretty decently while talking ... the problem for _me_ is
navigation.  I often hang up and discover that I was headed to
somewhere I _often_ go, rather than where I was _actually_ going.  ;-)

>     Dialing while driving is impossible, at least on my phone.  The buttons
>     are pretty tiny, I noticed on other models the keypad is bigger.
>     (The phone does have a memory, which I assume does help dialing.)

Yeah.  I originally had one-touch dialing off on my PrimeCo phone.  I
changed my mind.

My theory on this is that we develop a habit of ignoring the outside
world when we press a phone receiver to our ear; this is usually a Good
Thing ... but obviously, not in a car.  Handsfree kits seem to mitigate
this.

>  2) The clock is deceiving:  I am billed from [send] to [end] in whole
>     minutes.  It takes a few seconds to release the call after you hit [end]
>     which can add another minute to the call.  If you think the party didn't
>     answer and they did, you are billed for the call.

Poor AMA on the part of your carrier.  _My_ frustration is that the
timer on my _digital_ CDMA phone from Qualcomm by way of PrimeCo
_could_ give me actual time ... they just didn't _bother_ to engineer
the system correctly.

>  3) No quick hangups:  From the wired phone, I often call people who I know
>     have answering machines, and hang up after 3 rings if I don't feel like
>     leaving a message.  You can't do that on a cell phone because of the [end]
>     delay.

Again; system level crappy engineering.

>  4) Ringing delay.  When someone calls me, they'll hear at least 3 rings
>     before the cell phone starts to ring.  A lot of people these days don't
>     let phones ring very long before hanging up.  I must instruct any
>     callers to let it ring a long time.  If I'm driving, I'll need a moment
>     to get the phone out and to answer it.  In a crowded location, I may 
>     not hear the phone.

This is a phone-hunting problem ... newer types of networks are better
about it.

>  6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>     develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>     suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>     That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>     some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>     recharge.

Not really.  It's not "memory", per se.  I've finally found a _good_
treatise on what's actually going on here.  Check the sci.electronics
FAQ, here:

http://www.paranoia.com/~filipg/HTML/FAQ/BODY/F_Battery_info.html

It explains what "memory effect" really means.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                                jra@baylink.com
Member of the Technical Staff             Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued
The Suncoast Freenet      "People propose, science studies, technology
Tampa Bay, Florida          conforms."  -- Dr. Don Norman      +1 813 790 7592

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Subject: TELECOM Digest V17 #285

TELECOM Digest     Fri, 17 Oct 97 23:33:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 285

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    New C.O. in Madison, WI (Tad Cook)
    Book Review: "Doing More Business on the Internet" by Cronin (Rob Slade)
    Book Review: "Advancing HTML: Style and Substance" (Rob Slade)
    Answer Supervision? (Doug Terman)
    Re: Question re: ROLM CBX (Tom Watson)
    Re: Question re: ROLM CBX (Bill Ranck)
    Re: Question re: ROLM CBX (John Saxe)
    Re: Question re: ROLM CBX (John R. Levine)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Peter Simpson)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Bill Walker)

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Subject: New C.O. in Madison, WI
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:00:17 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


New Ameritech Switching Center Opens in Madison, Wis.

By Judy Newman, The Wisconsin State Journal
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Oct. 17 -- Ameritech customers probably never missed a dial tone, but
as of this week, their calls are now being handled by a sophisticated
new switching center in Madison that cost $4.5 million, used one
million feet of wire and took nearly six months to install.

Picture the stacks in the University of Wisconsin Memorial Library, with
row after row, floor upon floor of huge racks filled with books.

That's what the old telephone equipment looked a bit like at the Ameritech
switching center in downtown Madison. Wires and relay devices jammed the
racks instead of texts and treatises, filling two floors of the seven-story
building near the Capitol Square.

Each time a customer made a phone call, a relay activated, making for
thousands of constant clicking sounds. "This floor would just be banging
away," said Ned Burkhalter, field operations group manager.

The old equipment, containing 43,000 telephone lines, was installed
starting in 1969. It worked in tandem with manual operators with cord
switchboards, the kind satirized by comedienne Lily Tomlin's
"Ernestine" character, who connected toll calls to rural parts of Dane
County and the state until the mid-1970s.

Each time a new service option was added, such as call-waiting, more
hardware was shoved into the racks, Burkhalter said.

That entire function, the switching center for 43,000 Ameritech lines
from phones in downtown Madison, is now housed in a single cabinet
bay, 41 feet long. It looks more like a line of lockers at a health
club.

It is the "central brain" for every phone call made into or out of the
central city, except for government and UW offices.

Beside it are seven additional cabinets. These coordinate calls that
originate or terminate throughout the 608 area code, including those
from long-distance carriers.

They are sleek, smaller and modern because the system is now entirely
digital, said Randy Pickering, director of customer business
services. And if customers add new features, such as Caller ID or
three-way calling, they're just programmed inside the switch.

"It's all in the software," Pickering said.

The modernized equipment needs only two employees to oversee it, half
as many as the older version, Burkhalter said.

The Downtown facility is the last of the six switching centers in
Madison to go digital, and the most complicated, since it also houses
equipment for the entire area code.

Similar centers around the state also are in the process of digital
conversion, which is expected to be completed by the end of 1998.

And what happens to the miles of now-outdated phone wires and relays?
They go to recycling centers, where the copper and gold they contain
will be extracted. Ameritech could get $35,000 for the scrap metal,
Burkhalter said.

"We can recover quite a bit of money from a center like this," he said.

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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:37:52 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Doing More Business on the Internet" by Cronin


BKDBSINT.RVW   970401
 
"Doing More Business on the Internet", Mary J. Cronin, 1995, 0-442-02047-3
%A   Mary J. Cronin
%C   115 Fifth Ave., New York, NY   10003
%D   1995
%G   0-442-02047-3
%I   Van Nostrand Reinhold
%O   800-842-3636 212-254-3232 fax: 212-254-9499 jjeng@vnr.com kydel@vnr.com
%P   368
%T   "Doing More Business on the Internet:
     How the Electronic Highway is Transforming American Companies"
 
If not the original Internet business book, Cronin's "Doing Business
on the Internet" is very close to it.  Having suffered through dozens
of ill-advised and basically ignorant tomes on the same subject, I
approached this one with some trepidation.  (Despite the difference in
title, this is, essentially, a second edition.)  I am left with a
surprising question: with this very solid guide as a model, how did
those other turkeys get so far off track?
 
Cronin does not demonstrate a personal familiarity with the net, but
the book is a compilation of experience from those with an Internet
background.  Solid advice is provided from those who have succeeded
and, sometimes, those who failed.  The orientation is businesslike,
even in terms of net history.  The material is comprehensive, covering
everything from connectivity to personal use of the resource by
employees.
 
In the intervening years since the first publication, some of the
examples have failed, and some have evolved.  Gopher and WAIS (Wide
Area Information Server) have taken a back seat to the Web, which now,
at least, gets mentioned.  Overall, though, this is still a classic
reference for commercial activity on the net.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKDBSINT.RVW   970401

roberts@decus.ca         rslade@vcn.bc.ca         slade@freenet.victoria.bc.ca
link to virus, book info at http://www.freenet.victoria.bc.ca/techrev/rms.html
Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94663-2 (800-SPRINGER)

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:39:57 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Advancing HTML: Style and Substance"


BKW3JI21.RVW   970401
 
"Advancing HTML: Style and Substance", World Wide Web Consortium, 1997,
0-56592-264-6, U$29.95/C$42.95
%A   World Wide Web Consortium
%C   103 Morris Street, Suite A, Sebastopol, CA   95472
%D   Winter 1997
%E   Rohit Khare   khare@w3.org
%G   0-56592-264-6
%I   O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
%O   U$29.95/C$42.95 800-998-9938 707-829-0515 fax: 707-829-0104 nuts@ora.com
%P   254 p.
%S   World Wide Web Journal, Vol. 2, Issue 1
%T   "Advancing HTML: Style and Substance"
 
Not having a TV, I haven't seen the ad that has two geeks enthusing
over dancing images and flaming fonts on the net, until they finally
realize that neither has ever used any of these "kewl" sites.  I can,
however, fully sympathize with the sentiment being expressed.  In
fact, I was recently asked by this very company to comment on one of
their Web sites, and pointed out that Lynx users were confronted by a
column of uninformative "[IMAGE]" tags and not much else.  So, I can
heartily recommend those articles in this issue which anticipate the
Sixth International World Wide Web Conference's theme of accessibility: 
those on usability, access for disabilities, and appropriate uses.
 
So much for the substance part of the title.  Many authors raced HTML
(HyperText Markup language) 3.2 titles into print in anticipation of
the official adoption of the standard.  The pieces in this issue
(particularly the overview by Musciano) at least have an official
sanction.  The specification for Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) has been
less heavily promoted but may be more significant.
 
As usual, there are other matters dealt with, such as the new Opera
and Amaya browsers, and MNG (Multiple image Network Graphics).
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997   BKW3JI21.RVW   970401


DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer        ROBERTS@decus.ca         rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
      BCVAXLUG Envoy      http://www.decus.ca/www/lugs/bcvaxlug.html

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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:38:28 -0400
From: Doug Terman <Antilles@madriver.com>
Subject: Answer Supervision?


Dear Telecom Gurus,

We have a T-1 which runs to a first tier carrier's POP.  We are
running a particular application that, based on an email msg.,
triggers our equipment to dial an overseas number through our switch.
Once connected, our equipment calls -- again through our switch -- a
second telephone number here in the States which has a database our
client is trying to access.  The two calls are then conferenced
together by our switchgear. (I might add, however, this conferenced
connection could be just an ordinary voice call and it's not relevant
that we're feeding data to the overseas party.)

Normally, in the past (about 20 days ago), when the line overseas was
manually hung up, our equipment waited for a disconnect signal -- I
believe what is called, "the bits go high."  Typically, this signal
arrived at our equipment about 13 seconds after the connection
overseas was hung up.  This then signaled our connection to the US
number that was feeding data to also hang up.  Both connections were
then broken.

However, starting sometime around the 20th of October, an inspection
of our switch's call-progress logs showed that from the time the
overseas party actually hung up until our equipment got the "bits go
high" signal had magically increased from 12 to 32+ seconds.

Just to insure that it was not the foreign PTT who had increased the
timer from 12 to 32 seconds, I placed a couple of calls through
another carrier on a POTS line. No problem.  I got the reorder tone in
12 seconds.

So what's going on? Is my wonderful first tier carrier "padding" the
call by delaying "all bits go high" for another 15 to 20 seconds after
receiving it from the foreign PTT?  After all, since I'm still
connected, even though the called party has hung up, so I'm paying for
that connect time, even though no "information" is being converyed.

I fully understand that answer supervision isn't "immediate" line
cutoff when the called party hangs up, and I could live with 12
seconds, but I can't live with 32 seconds.  Not with 100,000 minutes a
month worth of international billing.

Normally, I'd ask that any respondents reply directly to my email
address, but this might be highly educational for the telco-savy-
impaired listers (myself included) among us.


Best to all,

Doug Terman
Operations Manager
<italic>Antilles Engineering, Ltd.
Tel. (802) 496-3812
Fax. (802) 496-3814
Snail Mail:
PO Box 318
Warren, VT 05674</italic>

------------------------------

From: tsw@cagent.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Re: Question re: ROLM CBX
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:35:32 -0700
Organization: CagEnt, Inc.


In article <telecom17.284.4@telecom-digest.org>, ldecours@frontiernet.net
(Lincoln DeCoursey) wrote:

> My employer, a 50+ store grocery chain in western New York has a PBX
> in each location to handle in-store phone communication, as well as
> dial-in and dial-out.  Additionally, the stores and offices are
> networked together in that from any phone in any of these systems, you
> can dial any given phone in any one of the systems by dialing
> 80-SS-XXX where SS is the store number and XXX is the extension to
> dial in that store.

> The phones utilized are standard AT&T analog phones.  Each has a
> sticker on it which identifies the system as "ROLM CBX," and contains
> general instructions for picking up calls, transfering calls, holding
> calls, parking calls, etc.

> My question deals with the interconnectivity in the system and how it
> is achieved.  I am unsure whether calls made to other premises are
> carried over the analog telco lines, or if there is some leased line
> implementation for the system, but I am intrigued by the ability to
> directly ring any given phone in any system.  I would speculate that
> each system has an incoming line which picks up and then accepts some
> instruction (perhaps DTMF) as to the destination extension.  My caller
> ID identified the number which the system used to generate an outgoing
> call from the system to my house.  In redialing this number, I get a
> high pitched tone upon connection.

> I'd like to be able to identify how this interconnectivity works, and
> how to get into a location's system through this back-door, as opposed
> to the published phone number which connects to the receptionists.
> Any resources or instruction would be greatly appreciated.

Three answers:

For the caller ID thing:
I suspect that outbound from the PBX is directed to trunk lines that are
"one way" configured in the PBX.  When you get a call from the PBX, it
goes out on these trunks which are different from the inbound trunks that
are listed in the phone book.  Upon calling these trunks back, you may get
into the maintence area of the PBX, or a modem external (even internal)
that picks up instead of the PBX.

For the dial '80...' thing.
What happens is that every store has an internal program that absorbs the
store number and the extension.  Based on the store number it picks a
trunk.  If the two stores are directly connected, it siezes the trunk, and
forwards the station number down the line.  The receiving PBX takes the
digits (on the "tie trunk") and connects to the station requested.  If the
two stores aren't connected, the PBX probably routes the whole thing to a
PBX that is further up the org chart (home office?) which is connected to
the store in question.  The procedure continues from there.  Mostly it is
a matter of setting up the routes for a given dial pattern.

Back doors.  It depends.  Sometimes there is an outside number that
answers and gives out the "dial tone" of the PBX.  You then dial into
it as an "extension".  At times these ports need passwords (4 digit
numbers).  Since these ports (there is a fancy name for them I don't
remember) allow one to (possibly) dial out of the PBX, they are not
typically given to anyone but those "in the know".  Sometimes
experimentation (and possibly social engineering) can yield these.  As
always "use with care" because if something goes wrong, YOU will be
blamed for the problem (experience here!!).


tsw@cagent.com         (Home: tsw@johana.com)
Please forward spam to: annagram@hr.house.gov (my Congressman), I do.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think you are referring to 'DISA'
which means Direct Inward Service Access' or something like that. 
And believe me you, those backdoors can be a real can of worms or
nest of hornets if the 'wrong person(s)' find out about them. If
they are present in your application, change the password on a very
regular basis. United Airlines, based here in the Chicago area, had
a backdoor into 'Unitel' which was their corporate phone network
back in the 1970-80's. By dialing a seven digit number in the north-
west suburbs of Chicago, you got dialtone returned to you from the
corporate switch. No passwords required to use it ... nothing. Just
start dialing. There were *dozens* of three-digit 'tie-line' codes
which gave connection to the tie-lines between the corporate office
and airports all over the USA. Once on the centrexes (in some cases,
and PBXs in other cases) at those airports, one could then dial '9'
and go out locally as desired. Most of them had WATS lines accessible
with some code, however you could also use corporate's WATS lines
without bothering to first grab a tie-line to one of the branches.
In addition to '9' at corporate level which did almost nothing outside
the town of Elk Grove, IL where it was located, corporate had metro
lines for Chicago, FX lines for New York, Denver and a couple other
places, all the aforementioned tie-lines to airports everywhere, their
own set of WATS lines, etc. Pick any three digit number off of that
back door dialtone it seems, and you got a new dial tone from somewhere.

A couple of phreaks sat down and actually charted it all out, making
a list of every three digit code and where it went. In a few cases
the only way they could tell was by dialing three digits off of the
back door dialtone, getting a new dialtone, dialing the 0 operator
and asking 'who are you?' ... and some of the responses were downright
strange. One code connected to a sort of bizarre, old-fashioned dial
tone which then would only accept two digits. They never could get an
answer no matter what two digits they dialed, nor from dialing the
operator. Finally one day, one of the calls there got answered by
someone saying 'hello'; they had reached an aircraft hangar in Nevada
somewhere which according to the person answering the phone was 
not occupied 'very much' or used regularly. Then one tie-line code
allowed dialing '0' and the operator who answered said she was the
operator at 'city hall, in Reno, Nevada'. Why a tie-line from United's
corporate office to city hall in Reno? I have no idea. 

Almost every one of the airports reachable via a three digit tie-line
code themselves had tie-lines going various interesting places. Some
were just tie-lines back to corporate, but others went to things like
the local Federal Aviation Administration's offices. Off of the
centrex at the airport in Seattle one code produced a dialtone to
which when dialed an operator responded 'Boeing Aircraft, may I help
you?' Checking out her tie-lines (reached by dialing the tie-line
from Seattle airport to Boeing) got various Boeing sales offices in
the USA; got a dialtone that was later identified as 'Canadian WATS',
and a few other charming things. If you went out from one of the
airports to the FAA's centrex, there would always be a few tie-lines
waiting for you there. Generally the audio quality stayed good for
about three levels deep; that is you were able to break the dial tone
with accuracy to about the third tie-line down in the web; from the
corporate back door to an airport to something else beyond that. 

As a comparison, imagine today's World Wide Web and all the links you
might visit, and every link offers a few more links at the press of
a couple keys. That was Unitel; dial any link you wanted and there
were always a couple more at the distant end waiting to be examined.
**And no passcode at all on the backdoor**. Just wide open; because
I suspect the executives at UAL would have been burdened having to
learn a passcode. 

The first order of business on discovering this fountain of comm-
unications potential was to detirmine *what number* was used for
the outgoing side of the extender. Both the incoming side and the
outgoing side were simply centrex extensions at corporate. That was
easily detirmined by placing a call out to 9-0+ some long distance
number; telling the operator to make it person to person to a
fictious name, and requesting that she 'leave word' if the party
was unavailable. The operator called the number, asked for Mr. Jones,
and on not reaching him told the person answering to leave word
for him to call 'Operator 7 in Chicago' (meaning charge the number
being called) and ask for (phone number). Thank you operator, now
the phone nunmber for the outgoing side of the extender is known.

So after a few months, when the simpletons finally came to the
conclusion their extender was being abused what did they do to
thwart the phreaks? Simply flip it around and reverse the inbound
and outbound lines. Of course, when the phreaks saw they were no
longer getting an answer -- just open ringing -- from the number
they had been using, they started dialing the other number instead
and were 'back in business' the same day. Finally security people
at Illinois Bell got involved after a couple million dollars in
fraud calls had gone through. IBT made an example of a couple 
phreaks and told United to get their act together also. Shortly
after that Unitel underwent a major overhaul. The old system known
as 'progressive dialing' (one dialtone leads to the next dialtone)
was abandoned in favor of a new computer which required not only
a passcode (easy enough to obtain by social engineering) but also
a full seven digit number before it would go away silently and
act on your request before opening the talk path. The airports
all had three digit prefixes of the form '732' (as in SEAttle)
and '673' (as in ORD/Ohare) followed by four digit extensions, 
and no more jumping off at the distant end, thank you, and
using *their* 9-level or *their* WATS. 

There were in the 1970-80's some absolutely unmitigated disasters
where phreaks and 'WATS extenders' were concerned. Every major
corporation was hit with millions of dollars in fraud. General
Motors took it very hard as did United States Steel, Montgomery
Ward and others. It is rare you see one these days, but in the
event your company actually uses them, I can only recommend
*extreme* caution in where they connect and who is allowed to
get near them.     PAT]

------------------------------

From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Bill Ranck)
Subject: Re: Question re: ROLM CBX
Date: 17 Oct 1997 12:38:55 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia


Lincoln DeCoursey (ldecours@frontiernet.net) wrote:
> can dial any given phone in any one of the systems by dialing
> 80-SS-XXX where SS is the store number and XXX is the extension to
> dial in that store.

> The phones utilized are standard AT&T analog phones.  Each has a
> sticker on it which identifies the system as "ROLM CBX," and contains
> general instructions for picking up calls, transfering calls, holding
> calls, parking calls, etc.

Are you *sure* those are standard AT&T analog phones?  I ask because
my university has a Rolm CBX and the phones are definitely not standard
analog phones, although it is possible to have analog lines in the system
so maybe you are correct.

> My question deals with the interconnectivity in the system and how it
> is achieved.  I am unsure whether calls made to other premises are
> carried over the analog telco lines, or if there is some leased line
> implementation for the system, but I am intrigued by the ability to
> directly ring any given phone in any system.  I would speculate that
> each system has an incoming line which picks up and then accepts some
> instruction (perhaps DTMF) as to the destination extension.  My caller

I doubt your speculation.  We have several switches on campus, and one
or two located on the other end of the state, and the interconnects
between them are all dedicated.  In the case of the off campus nodes
it is via a leased line (T1 or better I think).  Your system is
probably similar.

> ID identified the number which the system used to generate an outgoing
> call from the system to my house.  In redialing this number, I get a
> high pitched tone upon connection.

What the switch presents as caller-ID info is programmable in the
switch.  It may bear no relation to anything.

> I'd like to be able to identify how this interconnectivity works, and
> how to get into a location's system through this back-door, as opposed
> to the published phone number which connects to the receptionists.
> Any resources or instruction would be greatly appreciated.

What, does this newsgroup look like alt.2600 to you? 


Bill Ranck                +1-540-231-3951                    ranck@vt.edu
   Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, Computing Center   

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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:08:15 -0400
From: John Saxe <JXS@GUGGENHEIM.ORG>
Subject: Re: Question re: ROLM CBX


Why am I reminded of the time I headed off our receptionist from
transferring a call to "extension 10xxx"?  This sounds like a cracker
surfing for a dial tone to me.

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Date: 17 Oct 1997 02:58:16 -0000
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Question re: ROLM CBX
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


In article <telecom17.284.4@telecom-digest.org> you write:

> My employer, a 50+ store grocery chain in western New York has a PBX

Hmmn, Wegmans?  Or maybe Tops?

> I'd like to be able to identify how this interconnectivity works, and
> how to get into a location's system through this back-door, as opposed
> to the published phone number which connects to the receptionists.
> Any resources or instruction would be greatly appreciated.

It sounds like they're using a system known as DISA (Direct Inter
System Access or something like that.)

When you call a DISA number, it answers with a tone at which point
you, or more typically a calling PBX, send a DTMF passcode followed by
the extension number desired.  It's a very common facility used to
allow direct extension dialing among PBXes in multiple locations,
since it can use regular phone lines with no special features from the
telco.

It's also a notorious security hole since far too often the DISA
passcodes are short and easily guessed, and the class of service on
DISA trunks not properly restricted so that once you've entered the
passcode you can dial 9 and then call outside anywhere.  Some people
consider this a feature so that employees working at home can call the
PBX and then make business-related toll calls through the PBX at the
company's direct dial rate, but phone hackers love to look for DISA
ports to abuse for outdial to exciting foreign countries.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com, Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4  2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47 


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Did you know when AT&T first started
selling a new PBX about 1975 called 'Dimension' it had DISA in it and
even the AT&T sales reps were unaware of the 'feature'. Furthermore,
every single one had its passcode defaulted to the factory code '1234'.
No one told the sales reps, so none of them told the customers who
bought a Dimension, usually for the purpose of replacing their old
manual cordboards. Dimension PBXs were going in all over the place
and each one had a seven digit number assigned to the DISA port. 
Phreaks found out right away and were using those remote access ports
in many cases when the system administrators were **unaware that such
a feature was even available and installed on their system**. Whoopee!
Most were big enough accounts that reconciling the monthly phone bill
took the better part of a month; most had monthly bills from Illinois
Bell in the range of five to six hundred thousand dollars anyway and
'a couple thousand dollars' in fraud calls was not immediatly noticed.

After Dimension had been on the street for about six months, the
manure started hitting the wind stream <grin> ... as telecom admins
were discovering fraud up the kazooey. Calls to their AT&T account
representatives did no good; the reps did not know what they were
talking about, at least at first. One victim in Chicago was the
Chicago and Northwestern Railroad which got hit for about four
hundred thousand in fraud over three months. Illinois Bell security
guys were chasing all over the midwestern United States looking for
phreaks and they finally wound up writing it off. It turns out a
smart employee had been cruising around the switch area one day and
filched a couple of manuals which he photocopied for other phreaks. 
If you have a DISA port or otherwise a way of accessing your dial
tone, be very, very careful, and keep a close audit trail.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Peter_Simpson@3com.com
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 06:17:36 -0400
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far


In article <telecom17.283.3@telecom-digest.org>, Lisa Hancock
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

> 6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>    develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>    suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>    That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>    some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>    recharge.

And then Brett Frankenberger wrote:

> This is a very common, and very unsubstantiated, urban legend.  Under
> carefully controlled laboratory conditions, where you repeatedly
> partially dischange the cells to the *same level* each time, you can
> sometimes get a memory effect to appear, after a lot of cycles.  Under
> normal random usage, in which you never fully discharge the batteries,
> but always discharge to a different level, the memory effect does not
> appear.  (Also, most newer phones won't fully discharge the cells,
> prefering instead to shut themselves off when the voltage drops below
> a certain level.)

The truth is somewhere between the above two statements.  Memory is
not, as Brett points out, the problem.  Instead, the problem is growth
of conductive "whiskers" that, over time, connect the positive and
negative plates of the NiCd cell, shorting it and reducing its output
voltage to zero.

Whisker growth seems to be encouraged by light usage patterns.
Discharging the unit completely before fully recharging (but not over
charging) lengthens the time before whisker growth becomes a problem.
That's what those "battery conditioners" do.  Lisa's supplier gave her
the right procedure, but attached the wrong name to the problem.

I'm the proud owner of several NiCd powered pieces of equipment and I
am acutely aware of whisker growth.  A web search will probably find
several detailed articles on the phenomenon.  I have been able to
replace the NiCds in some of my gear with rechargeable alkalines
(Ray-o-Vac "Renewal" brand) and have been very satisfied with the
performance.


Regards,

Peter, KA1AXY

------------------------------

From: Bill_Walker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:15:11 -0700
Organization: QUALCOMM, Inc.


In article <telecom17.284.7@telecom-digest.org>, jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
(Jay R. Ashworth) wrote:

> Poor AMA on the part of your carrier.  _My_ frustration is that the
> timer on my _digital_ CDMA phone from Qualcomm by way of PrimeCo
> _could_ give me actual time ... they just didn't _bother_ to engineer
> the system correctly.

Well, I guess you could call it bad "system level engineering", but we
couldn't reengineer the business methods of the cellular carriers.
Billing in U.S. cellular systems (and PCS systems, which follow the
cellular model) is typically done offline by a system that reads a
tape (or other media) containing Call Detail Records generated by the
cellular system.  This means that the cellular system has no knowledge
of:

1) At what point in the call the carrier starts billing (depending on
how much call setup information is reported in the Call Detail
Records).

2) At what point in the call the carrier stops billing (ditto.  Is it
when the air interface is released, or when the PSTN side of the call
is released?)

3) what rates the carrier may be charging.

Now, _if_ the cellular infrastructure were expected to have that
information, then I'd agree that it was a failing of system design for
us to not have provided a way for the infrastructure to convey that
information to the phone.


Bill Walker, QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA USA
Bill_Walker@qualcomm.com
Support the anti-spam amendment.  Join at <http://www.cauce.org/>

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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 20 Oct 97 22:42:00 EDT    Volume 17 : Issue 286

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Sprint Slime Continues (Babu Mengelepouti)
    Enterprise Numbers (Stan Schwartz)
    Help! Interface Error With ZyXEL U-1496 (Alick Sadekov)
    Re: San Diego LEC Competition "A Mess" (Mike Fox)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Frank G. Pitt)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (SimGraphics)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Christopher Herot)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Louis Raphael)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Stanley Cline)
    Re: Question re: ROLM CBX (Chris Boone)
    Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Mark Brukhartz)
    Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Travis Dixon)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:07:26 -0400
From: Babu Mengelepouti <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>
Reply-To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
Organization: US Secret Service
Subject: Sprint slime continues


Yesterday, I wanted to place a call to Canada.  I have an account with
Sprint, and have had one for many years, which I access by dialling
their PIC code (10333) to place calls on that account.  And I have the
Sprint Sense plan.  I was aware of calls to Canada being advertised at
10 cents per minute on weekends, but was wary of whether or not I
actually would be charged that rate given the problems that have
recently been reported in the Digest with respect to Sprint's rates on
Canada calls.  So I decided to call Sprint on their toll-free number
(18008774646).

After wading through an IVR system seemingly designed not to connect me
to a human, and after frustratedly hitting "0" three times in a row (to
a rude repsonse of "That is NOT a valid option!") I finally was
connected to a "customer service" representative.  He informed me that
their "systems were down" and that he would be happy to answer any
"general" questions.

Well, general enough, I thought, wanting to know a rate.  So I said
that I was on Sprint Sense and asked if weekend calls to Canada were
at ten cents per minute.

"Well, I don't know," he hemmed and hawed.  "When did you sign up for
the program?"  I told him a couple of years ago.  "Well, you might not
be on the NEW plan."  "And what is the new plan," I asked.  "Well,
with the OLD plan, calls to Canada are 40 or 50 cents a minute, I
don't remember which, but with the NEW plan, they're ten cents a
minute on weekends."  I began to smell a rat.  "You mean," I asked,
"that I have been a customer for years, and you're charging me more
than a new customer?"  "Umm... well," the Sprint rep said, as he began
to get uncomfortable, "We couldn't switch you to the new plan without
your telling us, we wouldn't know you WANT it ..."

WANT it?

Excuse me?

Why would I WANT to pay "40 or 50 cents a minute" ratehr than ten
cents per minute?

Sprint's questionable business practices continue ...

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:55:27 PDT
From: Stan Schwartz <stannc@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: stannc@no*spam.yahoo.com
Subject: Enterprise Numbers


The company I'm working for was rudely awakened recently to find that
one of their old "Enterprise" numbers was still in service (a nice
charge of over $8.00 for a 15 minute call did the trick).

Of course, the number pre-dates anyone who currently works in the
telecom area, and for most of those people, the only information they
have about Enterprise numbers is an article from the Telecom Digest
Archives (thank you!).  

The charge appeared on the AT&T portion of the RBOC's bill, so we're
currently being bounced between the two in order to try to get an
answer as to who can shut the number down (let alone tell me what the
number is!).  A call to the AT&T operator asking for "Rate & Route"
sounded like it aged the poor lady a bit.  "We haven't had Rate &
Route for 30 years."  I explained my problem and gave her a few
company names (there have been some mergers), and I heard her checking
some list or flip chart.  Still nothing.

Does anyone know of a nice, searchable database for these things,
and/or who maintains these numbers nowadays?

This trip down "Telecom Memory Lane" has been brought to you by ...


Stan   (remove the obvious for reply e-mail)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If the charge is on the AT&T portion
of the bill, that means AT&T submitted it to the RBOC and therefore
AT&T should have backup documents on it somewhere. Without referring
to it as the 'Enterprise' charge simply ask the AT&T representative
to provide details on the charge in question, i.e. who called you,
what number were they at when they called, what number did they ask
for ... Generally the few remaining billing functions of Enterprise
and Zenith numbers (there have been no new ones assigned for years
and the old ones still out there have long been 'grandfathered')
are handled by the people who handle billing validation for 'collect'
and 'third-number billing' type calls. And after all, that is all
that Enterprise was: the manual, operator-handled form of automatic
reverse-charge billing we now know as '800 service'. A person would
ask the operator for 'Enterprise whatever-number' (mine used to 
be Enterprise 4790 if memory serves but I discontinued it in the
early 1970's) and that meant the operator would place a 'collect'
call to some number but she was not required to ask permission of
the called party regards the charges; just like 800 is today. The
called party has already said they would pay for any/all calls to
their number. You are correct that with the exception of some very
popular -- used hundreds or perhaps thousands of times per day in
all parts of the country -- Enterprise numbers, they were looked 
up by 'Rate and Route' in the office in Morris, IL. The very well-
known Enterprise numbers were located in a reference 'flip chart'
each operator had at her position. 

But you made a mistake also by asking the operator for 'Rate and
Route'. It has not been gone for thirty years, but it probably has
been gone ten or fifteen years. It used to be 815+161 I believe.
In any event it was never publicly accessible; the people in Morris
*never* spoke directly to the caller, only to the operator handling
the call. If you were going to make any inquiry at all of the oper-
ator you'd have been better off to simply ask something like, "I
have an old listing for an Enterprise number; are those still in
service; how could I find out?". Give the operators the words and
phrases they expect to hear from the public in the order in which
they expect to hear them for best results. Do not act like you
know more that she does; you will put her on the defensive. 

There is another possibility which is that it is someone else's
still active Enterprise number and it was encoded or put in the
system with transposed digits somehow and wound up on your bill,
so you may not even have such a number. Just go back to AT&T and
ask for the call details: who, what number called from/to, etc.
Let them muddle around with it awhile and they will either write it
off or produce some answers. Naturally, watch subsequent bills as
well.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Alick Sadekov <sadekov@cell.ru>
Subject: Help! Interface Error With ZyXEL U-1496
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:19:09 +0300
Organization: Moscow Cellular Communications


Hi ALL!

Please help me.
If you know "ZyXEL U-1496E Plus" with microprogramm 6.13R here is a
problem.  I have 2 wire leased line and I need to connect two DTE
which have the next signals on their pins (see below). May be some of
you know what AT commands do I have to load in order to make it work.
DTE has V.24 interface, speed 2400 using noninverted bit stream. Using
default profiles (for 2 wire LL), test of DTE tells me that I have
interface error.  Or may be it does not work at all?

DTE SIDE         MODEM SIDE
SDL (ST7I)        25-PIN MALE CONNECTOR (MODEM)
RXD   -----------  3   Recieved Data
DSR   -----------  6   Data Set Ready
RTS    ----------  4   Reqest to send
RL      ---------- 21   Remote Loop request
SF      ---------- 11   Select frequency
RATE ---------- 23   Data rate selector
GND   ----------  7   Signal ground
CTS    ----------  5   Clear To Send
DTR   ---------- 20   Data terminal ready
NC                24   Not Connected
TXC   ---------- 15   Transmitter Timing
RXC  ----------- 17   Reciever Timing
TXD  -----------  2   Transmitted Data
LL      ----------- 18   Local Loop request
DCD  -----------  8   Data Carrier Detected
GND                   Signal ground
GND                   Signal ground
GND                   Signal ground
GND  -----------  7  Signal ground
TM     ----------- 25   Loop ready
NC                 22   Not Connected

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:38:27 -0400
From: Mike Fox <mikefox@ibm.net>
Reply-To: mikefox@ibm.net
Subject: Re: San Diego LEC Competition "A Mess"


Tad Cook wrote:

> San Diego Area Local Telephone Competition a Mess, Watchdog Group Says

> SAN DIEGO--Oct. 15--Competition for local telephone service has turned
> into a confusing mess for consumers, according to a report released
> Tuesday by the watchdog Utility Consumers Action Network.

> Poor customer service, hard-to-understand pricing structures and
> inaccurate information bedevil San Diegans who want to choose another
> local carrier than the previous monopoly, Pacific Bell, said Barry
> Fraser, a UCAN staff attorney who prepared the report.

Watching local competition unfold, I have become convinced that AT&T,
MCI, et. al. are fumbling it on purpose for political reasons.  

Basically, these would-be competitors are not getting the deep
discounts in the incumbent's prices that they wanted.  They are then
saying that their failure to get these discounts is why they can't
compete in the local market.  Of course, if they were successful now,
that would undermine their plea for deeper discounts, so IMO it is not
in the best interests of the would-be competitors to be succesful in
the local market at this time.

I think they figure the cost to them in lost short-term revenue
opportunity in the not-so-lucrative consumer local market will be more
than made up for by the steeper discounts they plan to wheedle by
pointing to their failures as a reason that they should get even
sweeter deals.


Mike

------------------------------

From: frankie@mundens.gen.nz (Frank G. Pitt)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:38:35 +1200
Organization: Munden's Bar, The Pit, Cynosure
Reply-To: frankie@mundens.gen.nz


In article <telecom17.284.6@telecom-digest.org>, was written:

> In article <telecom17.283.3@telecom-digest.org>, Lisa Hancock
> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

>> 6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>>    develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>>    suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>>    That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>>    some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>>    recharge.

> This is a very common, and very unsubstantiated, urban legend.  Under
> carefully controlled laboratory conditions, where you repeatedly
> partially dischange the cells to the *same level* each time, you can
> sometimes get a memory effect to appear, after a lot of cycles.

It's not an urban legend, it's a well known fact.

I spent several years running an aircraft battery room, and we had to
do a deep-cycle discharge on NiCad bateries for exactly this reason.

In fact, it was this additional servicing requrement that made our
airforce move to gel cel lead acid batteries instead.

Thing is, flattening your average cell phone battery is not enough to
prevent memory effect, because to properly deep cycle a NiCad battery
you have to ensure that you short _each_cell_ when it goes below 0.2
volts, to prevent the cell from being charged up in _reverse_ by other
cells discharging through it.

So, unless you modify your cell phone battey pack to allow you to
short each cell, your battery pack will get memory effect (or worse)
whether you flatten it or not, and in fact flattening it without
shorting each cell can cause _more_ damage to the battery than just
allowing the memory effect.

Of course, manufacturers want to sell more battery packs, so they
don't tell you all this, and they make it as hard as possible for you
to service your batteries properly.

I have recovered many RC battery packs, many portable drill battery
packs, etc, purely by unsealing them and doing a proper deep cycle
discharge on them.

Of course, you must determine that it _is_ an alkaline cell for this
to be effective, it has no great effect on gel-cel lead acids,
or NiFe batteries which a becoming more common as prices reduce.

> Under normal random usage, in which you never fully discharge the
> batteries, but always discharge to a different level, the memory
> effect does not appear.

It does, actually, but you're so used to it, you don't know that you
could get much better performance if you maintained the battery
properly.

> (Also, most newer phones won't fully discharge the cells,
> prefering instead to shut themselves off when the voltage drops below
> a certain level.)

This is good actually, as deep discharge done wrong, which is what
most users would do, does more damage by reversing the charge on some
cells.

> Note that you have (probably) for years been partially discharging
> your car battery everytime you start your car, and then immediately
> recharging it (with the output of the alternator).  It doesn't develop
> memory.  (Of course, it's not NiCad either.)

And that's why it doesn't.

The Nickel-Cadmiun battery uses a completely different chemical
process than your lead acid car battery.


Frank G. Pitt | When in doubt, wash | fun:    frankie@mundens.gen.nz
Wellington    |   (Orlando)         |         frankie@ibm.net 
New Zealand   |                     | profit: fpitt@nz1.ibm.com

------------------------------

From: simg@netcom.com (SimGraphics)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Organization: SimGraphics Engineering, South Pasadena, California
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:26:17 GMT


In article <telecom17.283.3@telecom-digest.org>, Lisa Hancock
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

> 1) How do people drive and talk?

Hello Lisa!

May I suggest an educational trip to Europe, say Paris?  Over there
people drive, talk on the phone, shift gears and finish their coffee
and cruoisant, all at the same time.


Good luck,

Sylvester

------------------------------

From: Christopher_Herot/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com (Christopher Herot)
Reply-To: herot@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:30:04 -0400
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far


>  1) How do people drive and talk?
>     For me at least, there's no way I can drive my car and talk on the
>     phone, it's simply too distracting with traffic.  Yes, I know when we
>     drive we freely talk to the person next to us, but somehow it's
>     different on the phone.  Considering all the times I was nearly
>     hit by a distracted driver talking on the phone, I don't know how
>     people do it.

My theory is that the person in the seat next to you is as caught up
in the driving experience as you are.  Any human-factors students out
there might find it an interesting research project to see if the
nature of the conversation is different whether the other party is in
the car or remote on the phone.

I recommend that you buy a hands-free booster kit.  They are
remarkably cheap ($200 installed for my Motorola Micro-Tac) for the
amount of electronics involved.  Not only do you get hands-free
talking, but you get a place to mount the phone where it is easy to
dial and to answer incoming calls.  You also get better reception and
the peace of mind of not having an RF transmitter inches away from
your brain.

>  6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>     develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>     suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>     That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>     some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>     recharge.

Go back to the dealer and tell them how annoyed you are they sold you
an obsolete battery technology.  For a few bucks more you can upgrade
to a NiMH or Li-Ion battery which will last a lot longer and has no
memory effect.  Alternatively, if you spend a lot of time in the car,
most car-mount booster kits will charge the battery enough to last
until you are back in the car.

If any of these options seem expensive, you obviously haven't received
your first bill.  It changes your entire perspective.


Christopher Herot

------------------------------

From: raphael@willy.cs.mcgill.ca (Louis Raphael)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: 20 Oct 1997 16:07:56 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre


Lisa Hancock (hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com) wrote:

>  1) How do people drive and talk?
>     For me at least, there's no way I can drive my car and talk on the 
>     phone, it's simply too distracting with traffic.  Yes, I know when we
>     drive we freely talk to the person next to us, but somehow it's
>     different on the phone.  Considering all the times I was nearly
>     hit by a distracted driver talking on the phone, I don't know how
>     people do it.

Judging by the number of times I would have been run over by a
cellular-phone-yacking driver (if I hadn't moved out of the way), I'd
say only hands-free models should be allowed for the driver in
vehicles.  They're a serious road hazard. Even the hands-free models
are worse than talking to the person sitting next to you, as the
person at the other end of the line doesn't know when one is in a
tense traffic situation, and can't always be told to "shut-up" for a
few minutes.

I believe that hand-held cell phones have been banned while driving in
some places, such as Malaysia, for this reason. 


Louis

------------------------------

From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 06:16:46 GMT
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On 15 Oct 1997 02:02:56 GMT, in comp.dcom.telecom was written:

> 5) No charge for phone off.  I once called someone's cell phone via the
>    roaming number long distance and was billed even though his phone

That's the one bad thing about using roamer access numbers: The
cellular switch has to provide answer supervision when it *gives the
dial tone* (or on Motorola EMX switches, the beeps) so that you have
forward voicepath to enter the phone number you're calling.

>    off.  However, I called myself from a pay phone with the phone off,
>    got the recording, and got my money back.  Callers can be assured no
>    one will be billed on either end if the cell phone is turned off.

Answer supervision is normally not returned on calls placed directly
to a cellphone, if the call lands up going to the no-answer,
disconnect, etc. recordings.

However, some carriers (I believe "USHell" [US Cellular] has had this
problem) seem to return answer supervision on no-answer recordings
when a phone is dialed directly (not via roamer access number) -- and
I get billed for those calls.  That is 100% sloppiness on the part of
the cellular carrier.


Stanley Cline                         somewhere near Atlanta, GA, USA
roamer1(at)pobox.com               http://scline.home.mindspring.com/
spam not wanted here!    help outlaw spam - see http://www.cauce.org/

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From: Christopher W. Boone <cboone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Question re: ROLM CBX
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:17:26 -0500
Organization: The Walt Disney Company / ABC Radio Networks Engineering
Reply-To: cboone@earthlink.net


John Saxe wrote:

> Why am I reminded of the time I headed off our receptionist from
> transferring a call to "extension 10xxx"?  This sounds like a cracker
> surfing for a dial tone to me.

Or a hacker asking for extn 9011 !!!!!

We had several try to do that on our ROLM at my former employer ...
lucky the attendants were smart enough to catch on.

(It was a 3 node 9000VL CBX ... sn #2! ... it has since been replaced
with a 9006i model 80 YUK!!!!)

> Are you *sure* those are standard AT&T analog phones?  I ask because
> my university has a Rolm CBX and the phones are definitely not standard
> analog phones, although it is possible to have analog lines in the system
> so maybe you are correct.

What you have on your campus are RolmPhones ... black or ask color ...
but nowhere does the name CBX appear on the RPs ... the analog phones
he describes are analog with the add on paper faceplates which has all
the dialing access codes like Park, Connect, etc ... AT&T does NOT
make a digital phone that is ROLM compatible.
 
>> My question deals with the interconnectivity in the system and how it
>> is achieved.  I am unsure whether calls made to other premises are
>> carried over the analog telco lines, or if there is some leased line
>> implementation for the system, but I am intrigued by the ability to
>> directly ring any given phone in any system.  I would speculate that
>> each system has an incoming line which picks up and then accepts some
>> instruction (perhaps DTMF) as to the destination extension.  My caller

> I doubt your speculation.  We have several switches on campus, and one
> or two located on the other end of the state, and the interconnects
> between them are all dedicated.  In the case of the off campus nodes
> it is via a leased line (T1 or better I think).  Your system is
> probably similar.

Probably using analog tie lines as well!. Not sure but the way he
describes the system, it sounds like there is one HUB switch; each
CBX connects to it (it acts as a tandem) and the 80 is merely the tie
line code to the HUB, then the xx is the tie line code to the distant
site and the sss is the extn code.  Personally it would be better to
use ROLMNet with a 8-RNX-XXXX format with RNX being a 3 digit
location code and xxxx being a 4 digit extn; that way it can be
routed by the hub and if one path is blocked, ROLMNet can send it a
different direction. (I used to program ROLM CBXs both Route Op, dial
9 and ROLMNet dial 8 for a major public utility covering four states.
That's how we had our network dialing.)
 
>> ID identified the number which the system used to generate an outgoing
>> call from the system to my house.  In redialing this number, I get a
>> high pitched tone upon connection.
 
> What the switch presents as caller-ID info is programmable in the
> switch.  It may bear no relation to anything.

The CID number he got was merely the outbound CO trunk from the local
CBX to his house when dialing 9 (probably a dumb access trunk
code ... not ROUTE OP). Dialing back in may get an intercept tone from
the CO (if the trunk is only one way) or possibly a modem at the
CBX? (Stupid to do that!)

>> I'd like to be able to identify how this interconnectivity works, and
>> how to get into a location's system through this back-door, as opposed
>> to the published phone number which connects to the receptionists.
>> Any resources or instruction would be greatly appreciated.

GOOD LUCK trying to get that info here; you sound like a scummy
phreaker!  GO jump in a pit of boiling tar first.

> What, does this newsgroup look like alt.2600 to you?

Kinda my thoughts exactly.


Chris
Former Sr Telecom Egr Tech for Entergy/Gulf States, Texas
ROLM CBX 8000/9751/9200 trained and 
ROLM certified on 8000/9200 and Phonemail

------------------------------

From: mark_brukhartz@il.us.swissbank.com (Mark Brukhartz)
Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:55:34 GMT


I am another happy SkyWord Plus customer.

It uses Motorola's ReFLEX two-way protocol. See http://www.mot.com for
FLEX and ReFLEX documents. I believe that the pager transmits periodic
"I am here" messages. It also acknowledges incoming pages. The system
transmits pages to your last known location. If one is unacknowledged,
it is transmitted nationwide, because you might be in a place with one
way "basic coverage'.

The pager must transmit enough power to be heard from inside of fairly
opaque buildings. Every joule transmitted comes from the one AA cell.
I'm actually impressed that one lasts a month. There is also a
built-in NiCd battery. It is obviously charged from the AA, then
discharged at transmit time. The AA apparently can't provide
sufficient current for a transmission. The NiCd will probably be
replaced with one of those new high-energy capacitors in a future
pager.

Reliable paging (with acknowledgement and retransmission) is a great
service. Consumers will hear more about it as the 1900 MHz PCS phone
systems come online. Most (or all) of the American digital telephony
protocols also provide reliable alphanumeric paging.


Mark

------------------------------

From: travisd@netresponse.com.nospam (Travis Dixon)
Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Date: 20 Oct 1997 18:02:35 GMT
Organization: NetResponse


In article <telecom17.282.3@telecom-digest.org>, baldwin@netcom.com (J.D.
Baldwin) wrote:

> How far off is this picture?  And how good is this thing in actual
> practice?  How often does the pager try to tell the network where it
> is?  What are the frequencies and signal strengths involved?  (I
> notice that this thing *eats* batteries at the rate of one AA per
> month, according to SkyTel.  So the transmission would seem to be a
> significant power burden.)

I have the full-blown Skytel two-way service with the "Wireless
Access, Inc." hardware. In about two months if use I've had mixed
feelings about it.

The coverage is definitely spotty. When I'm home (Frederick, MD) I
have little to no service. Occasionally I'll wake up and it'll have
BASIC service. Never two-way. Works great at work (Arlington, VA)
though.

One month for batteries? Try a week. This unit sucks them down. 

I don't have technical specs on the protocols used but I think you're
very close. By using the two-way systems Skytel can actually provide
better coverage at lower rates. The system only has to transmit to the
tower that you're closest to so you don't burn capacity on the system
when you're out of range for instance.

Only problem was the $1100 (yes, eleven-hundred dollars US) bill last
*month*. Sent too much e-mail to it :).  Company's idea though :)


travis

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From: wolf.paul@aut.alcatel.at@aut.alcatel.at (Wolf Paul)
Subject: Re: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop
Date: 20 Oct 1997 06:18:54 GMT
Organization: Alcatel Austria AG


In article <telecom17.283.5@telecom-digest.org>, aboritz@cybernex.net
(Alan Boritz) writes:

> Ever have a service provider who insists you read their spam email,
> while YOU'RE paying connect time charges, and they refuse to stop
> after you tell them nicely?  Compuserve appears to be doing that now.

I think you're being a bit unreasonable, considering that CIS allows
you to see mail "From" and "Subject" lines before downloading mail.

I never yet had a service provider who did not use e-mail to inform
customers about important developments -- how else do you expect them
to get information out to their customers?

And most CIS subscribers would want to know what the implications of
the AOL deal are, most would like to know about new pricing plans,
etc.

SPAM is unsolicited e-mail from people or companies with whom one does
not have an ongoing business relationship; mail from a service
provider pertinent to the service being provided can hardly be called
spam.


W. N. Paul/KSRU * Alcatel Austria AG * Scheydgasse 41 * A-1210 Vienna, Austria 
wnp@aut.alcatel.at * +43-1-277-22 x5523 (voice)/x1118 (fax) * +43-1-774-1947 (h)

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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:50:05 EDT
From: Alan Boritz <aboritz@CYBERNEX.NET>
Subject: Re: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop


Reply to note from wolf.paul@aut.alcatel.at@aut.alcatel.at (Wolf Paul):

> In article <telecom17.283.5@telecom-digest.org>, 
> aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) writes: 

>> Ever have a service provider who insists you read their spam email, 
>> while YOU'RE paying connect time charges, and they refuse to stop 
>> after you tell them nicely?  Compuserve appears to be doing that now. 

> I think you're being a bit unreasonable, considering that CIS allows you 
> to see mail "From" and "Subject" lines before downloading mail. 
 
No, Wolf, I have no opportunity to "preview" headers before
downloading, without paying for the connect time to manually log on,
capture info (with some horrible Windows program), and then log off.
My OS/2 CIS access program does the same thing, and that's not
acceptable, either.  Since CIS doesn't yet support POP3, the only
programs that can be used to retreive email have to be text-based,
specific to CIS's system, and do NOT allow for unattended deletion of
email on the host based on message headers, before beginning a batch
download.  For the past 10 years, or so, I've been accessing
everything in batch in a dos session (dramatically reducing connect
time charges), so my access program spends the absolute minimum amount
of connect time to do it's thing.
 
> I never yet had a service provider who did not use e-mail to inform
> customers about important developments -- how else do you expect
> them to get information out to their customers?
 
Well, gee, maybe I expect they'll put non-critical info in the many
(paper) mailings they send their customers, and ALL of the emails
they've been forcing me to download out are NON-critical.
 
> And most CIS subscribers would want to know what the implications of the 
> AOL deal are, most would like to know about new pricing plans, etc. 
 
How do YOU know what "most" CIS subscribers would like to know? 
 
> SPAM is unsolicited e-mail from people or companies with whom one does 
> not have an ongoing business relationship; mail from a service provider 
> pertinent to the service being provided can hardly be called spam. 
 
No, Wolf, you're not the authority on what is, or isn't, considered
spam.  Unsolicited commercial email traffic on a connection whose
expense is time-sensitive is absolutely unacceptable.  It's doubly
unacceptable when that traffic doesn't stop when I ask.
 
I'm sorry you didn't understand the original problem, but I've
probably been dealing with these people a lot longer than you have (if
you do, at all).  It's serious stuff when a VAN service-provider
fraudulently increases it's revenues by forcing it out of their
customers, whether intentionally, or through simple ignorance.
 

Alan

------------------------------

From: Michael Hayworth <msh1@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop
Date: 20 Oct 1997 19:04:07 GMT
Organization: Innovative TeleSolutions


Unless you're dialing through their 800 number, or calling long
distance (your choice, not theirs), you're not paying anything for the
time you spend reading e-mail. Connect time charges don't apply to
e-mail, customer service, and some other places. And now that they've
gone flat rate, except for the game areas, you won't even have to
worry about connect time on the forums, either.

Business have to have a way to communicate with their customers, and
I'd much rather they e-mail me than junk mail me. Nobody likes spam,
but the whining level about it on the various telcom groups has
reached the point where it amounts to spam itself.

If you don't want to read it, delete it.


Michael Hayworth
VP, Technology
Innovative TeleSolutions

------------------------------

From: gkj@panix.com (Gregory Johnson)
Subject: Re: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop
Date: 20 Oct 1997 10:23:58 -0400
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC


In article <telecom17.283.5@telecom-digest.org> aboritz@cybernex.net
(Alan Boritz) writes:

> Ever have a service provider who insists you read their spam email,
> while YOU'RE paying connect time charges, and they refuse to stop
> after you tell them nicely?  Compuserve appears to be doing that now.
> A couple of weeks ago they started sending me the electronic version
> of the magazine they've been sending me as junk (paper) mail for
> years, for an account I have there.  I emailed customer service and
> told them to stop sending *any* unsolicited junk email, and they
> responded that they don't know who sent it (it had their CIS id in the
> header), but they'd get on it and get back to me.  That was on 9/23,
> and I haven't heard a word since.

Now that AOL has purchased CompuServe, perhaps CompuServe is adopting
AOL's tactics with respect to "marketing" to their subscriber base.
AOL is not in the business of providing online information services;
it is in the business of delivering a market to its advertisers.  In
this respect, it seems AOL works a lot like the much-maligned Prodigy
service of yesteryear, except that Prodigy was up-front about the fact
that the advertisers are the ones who are paying for your access to
their service.

I use an AOL account which belongs to my firm in the course of my
daily routine, and it is clear to me that AOL is uninterested in the
business of actually providing information services.  Their primary
focus is capturing you as an online customer for the purpose of
selling advertising.  The principle is sort of like a cable channel.
They offer content to get you to subscribe, and then you are forced to
watch the sponsor's advertisements.  In their re-vamping of the
service this month, they mentioned that various content areas will
have "anchors" (doublespeak for "sponsors"?)

Tech support at AOL is unresponsive, which is unsurprising considering
they have to support a legion of users "who can't program their VCR's,
but they're online", to paraphrase their advertising.

It seems likely that AOL will try to migrate CompuServe's subscribers
to the AOL service.  If you want to be a customer rather than
a "target market", run, run, as fast as you can to a legitimate online
service.


Greg

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:23:52 -0400
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Toll-Fraud via Remote-Access to Call-Forwarding


In article <telecom17.282.1@telecom-digest.org>, ctelesca@pagesz.net
(Chris Telesca) writes:

> An engineer with the PUC says he doesn't want to help me with this
> problem, because he thinks he can use his time better.  He also told
> me that he thinks the phone comanies don't want to solve this problem
> because it isn't worth their time to solve it (apparently it costs
> more to solve it in terms of labor rates for technicians and engineers
> as opposed to the charges involved).  He also says I should drop the
> service.

I don't know what the procedure there is (or if there even is one),
but Iowa starts with an informal docket handled by the staff; and the
aggrieved party can appeal to the commission to make it a formal
complaint proceeding before an administrative law judge if
dissatisfied with the staff's response, with the findings of the ALJ
appealable to the full commission and ultimately to the courts.  I
suggest finding out where you can go (and when) if you're dissatisfied
with the staff's performance.


Bruce Wilson

------------------------------

From: varney@ihgp2.ih.lucent.com (Al Varney)
Subject: Re: Local Number Portability and Interconnecting Network Services
Date: 20 Oct 1997 18:39:55 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies, Naperville, IL
Reply-To: varney@lucent.com


In article <telecom17.271.2@telecom-digest.org>, Mario
A. Castano-Gonzalez <m.a.castano@ieee.org> wrote:

> We at CINTEL (Centro de Investigacion de las Telecomunicaciones de 
> Colombia) are analyzing the problem of implementing the national-wide 
> interconnection of the intelligent network services provided by the 
> several local telcos (with special interest in how to provide local 
> number portability LNP).

> Thus why we are interested in knowing how these problems are being
> faced in USA, and the products the IN providers are currently
> offering.

   ITU-T is currently addressing LNP in a standards context (Study
Group 11).  Information on USA LNP solutions is at:
<http://www.ported.com>.  Information on Canadian/Stentor LNP
documents: <http://www.stentor.ca>.

   If you are contemplating interconnecting IN databases, not just
switches that use IN, then I don't believe any of the above are
following that approach.


Al Varney

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:16:21 -0400
From: rlhrrs@aol.com (Robert Lee Harris)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Local Number Portability in California


It is my understanding that with local phone service now open to long
disance carrier companies (ie: MCI, Sprint, etc.) the local phone
number is now supposed to have the same portability as an 800/888
number now has.

Two questions come to mind,  the first is a general question:

How will the Central Offices handle numbers that used to belong to
other service areas.  If AT&T decides that it wants to point a (562)
436 #### prefix number to a CO that is outside of the "traditional"
service area, will it have to be poinhted to a CO based subset of
numbers?  This couldn't be a free service, especially when comapared
to the cost of Remote Call Forward, which before was the only option.

Does this mean we will no longer be able to tell where any number goes
based on it's prefix?

The second question may be a real life situation: Everything that I
have read in PUC articles suggests that the Customer will own the
local CO number, rather than the carrier.  But if the long distance
carrier were to sell the customer local phone service with a specific
number that is actually part of a carrier controlled DID group, can
the carrier refuse to let the customer keep the phone number if they
decide to switch services.  It seems like a sneaky way to hold an
unsatisfied customer hostage with their published phone number to me.

I welcome any real life info anyone has.  I'll post later with the
outcome if there is any interest.


Robert Lee Harris - Telecommunications Productivity Services
(562) 867-3827
RLHRRS@aol.com

------------------------------

From: rh120@columbia.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: Netizens Reviews and in Japanese edition
Date: 21 Oct 1997 00:27:30 GMT
Organization: Columbia University


There have recently been two reviews of the print edition of
"Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet", one
in the November issue of Dr. Dobbs Journal on page 103 another in the
Oct. 13 issue of Computerworld.

See http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/reviews.html

Also, a Japanese translation of Netizens: On the History and Impact of 
Usenet and the Internet was published by Chuokoron-sha last week.


Ronda
rh120@columbia.edu

           Netizens: On the History and Impact
                of Usenet and the Internet
         http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ronda, keep up the good work! Your
work is an invaluable part of the task of keeping our history accurate
for future generations of netters.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:38:55 -0500
From: Electronic Commerce News <soon@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: EC at INFORMS '97/Electronic Commerce FAQ


Electronic Commerce News Announcements
October 20, 1997
Send feedback to soon@mail.utexas.edu
Thank you very much.

1. Electronic Commerce Sessions at INFORMS '97 Conference (Dallas,
Oct. 26-29): Participants and other EC professionals are urged to
check out online information about Electronic Commerce sessions. The
official INFORMS site is http://www.informs.org/Conf/Dallas97/ and
Electronic Commerce sessions organized by Prof. Jan Stallaert and
members of the CREC are:

	Electronic Commerce Cluster Sessions :
		http://www.informs.org/Conf/Dallas97/TALKS/C20.html
	Network Design/Advertising and Economics Issues
		http://www.informs.org/Conf/Dallas97/TALKS/S9.html

2. CREC website has been overhauled to provide easy access to
EC-related announcements, news and resources. While complementing
various IT/network/information sites, CREC website provides an
EC-focused forum for EC-business professionals of the digital
economy. CREC welcomes your EC announcements.

	CREC Website: http://cism.bus.utexas.edu

   -----------------------
3. Electronic Commerce FAQ
   -----------------------

Do we really know what electronic commerce is, or how it will affect
the market? Will we be watching WebTV? How should we handle spamming?
Should a Website be jazzy? Do digital products have zero marginal
costs? Does Microsoft really stifle competition? These and other EC
questions are answered in this FAQ. See http://cism.bus.utexas.edu and
follow EC Resources link.

                       ELECTRONIC COMMERCE NEWS
       The Center for Research in Electronic Commerce, UT-Austin
http://cism.bus.utexas.edu    SEND CORRESPONDENCE TO:soon@mail.utexas.edu

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From: Sermkiat Vibulpatanavong <sermkiat@samart.co.th>
Subject: I Need Some Basic Telephony Knowledge
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:44:27 +0700
Organization: Samart Cybernet


I have graduated in the Computer Science field but I had to deal with
the maintainance of the server for controlling the PABX machine. Since
I didn't have no knowledge about the telephony before I found it
extremely difficult for me to start.

Moreover, there are no expert about telephony in my organization, most
of people deals with the telephony is just a technician whose
knowledge is just for how to do but not why they do. And also they
don't know much about how to use the computer.

Would you please tell me where could I find these knowledges? Can you
suggest me some books to read? Please help me.


Sermkiat Vibulpatanavong
sermkiat@samart.co.th

------------------------------

From: fwong@uog2.uog2.uog.edu (Franky Wong)
Subject: How to Ask For Internet Service?
Date: 20 Oct 1997 14:21:25 GMT
Organization: University of Guam


Dear fellow guru,

Recently our University is interested to send out a Request for
Proposal for Internet carrier (e.g. T1 line).  I would like to make
sure the RFP is technically sound.  May I ask what requirements should
I state in the RFP?

For example, the followings are concerns that I could think of:

1 Price schedule for bandwidth upgrade in the future.

2 A certain ratio that would restrict the carrier from selling much
  more than the bandwidth that it actually has.

  I don't know the correct term, but I think it is not fair if the carrier
  sells T1 connections to ten customers when in fact it only
  has one T1 link to Internet.

3 When the line comes to my premise, do I have to waste a subnet when
  hooking it up to my router?  Or is it recommended that I make use of
  some "IP-unumbered" feature available on CISCO or certain routers to
  save IP addresses?  Or thirdly, is it recommended that I rent the
  ip address from the carrier?


Please email me if you could.  Thanks.


   | Franky C. H. Wong                | Email  : fwong@uog.edu            |
   | Programmer/Analyst               | Voice  : +1 (671) 735-2626        |
   | Computer Center                  |                   735-2635        |
   | University of Guam               | Fax    : +1 (671) 734-9422        | 
   | 303 University Dr, UOG Station   | Coordinate: 13.5N , 144.45E       |
   | Mangilao, Guam USA 96923         | Time   : GMT+10    EST+15         |
   |                                                                      |
   |  A LAND GRANT INSTITUTION ACCREDITED BY THE WESTERN ASSOCIATION OF   |
   |                         SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES                         |

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Alan Boritz)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (tonypo@ultranet.com)
    Re: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop (Adam Atkinson)
    Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (J.D. Baldwin)
    Re: Intro to Data Communications Wanted? (Robert J. Perillo)
    Re: How to Ask For Internet Service? (David Richards)
    Re: Question re: ROLM CBX (Keith Abbott)
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From: aboritz@CYBERNEX.NET (Alan Boritz)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:32:35 -0400


In article <telecom17.283.3@telecom-digest.org>, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
(Lisa Hancock) wrote:

> Recently I got cellular phone service.  I previously posted my experiences
> dealing with the sales people.  Now here's some notes on usage ...

> 1) How do people drive and talk?
>    For me at least, there's no way I can drive my car and talk on the 
>    phone, it's simply too distracting with traffic.

How do you walk and chew gum at the same time? <g>

>    Yes, I know when we
>    drive we freely talk to the person next to us, but somehow it's
>    different on the phone.

Of course it is.  You need to concentrate to carry on a coherent
conversation, but you also need to concentrate to drive a car.  It's
the subject of a whole field of psychological research.  People in
broadcasting seem to be able to do that well (speak or read while
carrying on an unrelated activity at the same time).  I did it for a
living for almost 10 years.

> 2) The clock is deceiving:  I am billed from [send] to [end] in whole
>    minutes.  It takes a few seconds to release the call after you hit [end]
>    which can add another minute to the call.  If you think the party didn't
>    answer and they did, you are billed for the call.

This is an unfortunate byproduct of the technology and implementation
being used.  Some conventional telephone PBX's will do one worse, and
*never* let go of the call, after you thought you hung up (a Siemen
switch did that to me a while ago).

> 3) No quick hangups:  From the wired phone, I often call people who I know
>    have answering machines, and hang up after 3 rings if I don't feel like
>    leaving a message.  You can't do that on a cell phone because of the [end]
>    delay.

How rude! <g> Your friends are probably grumbling behind your back
about the click-click-kerchunk noises you leave on their machines.

> 4) Ringing delay.  When someone calls me, they'll hear at least 3 rings
>    before the cell phone starts to ring.  A lot of people these days don't
>    let phones ring very long before hanging up.  I must instruct any
>    callers to let it ring a long time.

This is more of a paradox, than a problem.  How the switch handles an
incoming call that has to search for it's destination, will depend
upon the engineer's assumptions about what the caller needs to hear to
know that a connection is pending (and not immediately refused).  Some
switches will not return a ring signal until the system find the
subscriber on the system, and presents the caller with silence.  Some
conventional switches, like the old Northern Tel SL-1 will do the same
thing when the switch is blocked.  Are long periods of silence more
agreeable to the user than long periods of (phony) ring tone?  Some
would say yes, and some would say no.

>    If I'm driving, I'll need a moment
>    to get the phone out and to answer it.

Hey, wait a minute, didn't you just say you couldn't talk and drive at
the same time?  What are you trying to do, get into an accident? <g>

> 5) No charge for phone off.  I once called someone's cell phone via the
>    roaming number long distance and was billed even though his phone was
>    off.  However, I called myself from a pay phone with the phone off,
>    got the recording, and got my money back.  Callers can be assured no one
>    will be billed on either end if the cell phone is turned off.

That's not exactly correct (that no one will be charged for a phone
being off).  If the subscriber has voice mail, the caller will
*always* pay for the call, the only difference being that the call
goes into voicemail sooner with the phone off in the home system.  The
subscriber, however, will *always* pay for airtime on unanswered
incoming roamer calls, since that's how most of those tariffs are set
up (it's been like that since the beginning of cellular roamer
service).

> 6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>    develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>    suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>    That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>    some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>    recharge.

How you deal with the memory effect (in which Pat Townson still won't
belive, BTW), depends upon how you use it (i.e. make money with it, or
use it for personal convenience).  You can buy a little conditioner
for under $100 (like Ora's), or add a test fixture to an existing
nicad tester for (probably under $1,000, but it may be much easier and
convenient to merely toss the battery in the gargage and buy a
replacement.

------------------------------

From: tonypo@ultranet.com.NOSPAM 
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: 21 Oct 1997 03:21:23 GMT
Organization: Providence Network Partners
Reply-To: bitbucket@null.nul


In article <telecom17.286.5@telecom-digest.org>, frankie@mundens.gen.nz 
says...

> In fact, it was this additional servicing requrement that made our
> airforce move to gel cel lead acid batteries instead.

My cellphone has a NiCad battery that seems to be ok after seven
months of usage both on and off a charger. I've only had to put it on
the wall charge four or five times since I've had it since much of the
time it's in the car.

But I do like the little lead-acid gel-cell that's in my Sony cordless
phone. The thing lasts forever and doesn't seem to have the drawbacks
of the NiCad. Of course I'd like to put a Li-Ion battery on my
cellphone were it not so prohibitively expensive. The battery would be
worth more than the phone.


Tony

------------------------------

From: Adam Atkinson <etlaman@etlxdmx.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: Compuserve Spams Own Customers, Refuses To Stop
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:42:41 +0100
Organization: Ericsson
Reply-To: etlaman@etlxdmx.ericsson.se


Michael Hayworth wrote:

> Unless you're dialing through their 800 number, or calling long
> distance (your choice, not theirs), you're not paying anything for the
> time you spend reading e-mail. Connect time charges don't apply to
> e-mail, customer service, and some other places.

Unless, of course, you live in a country where local calls cost money.
Such as, oh, most places. Certainly the last two countries I've lived
in.

> Business have to have a way to communicate with their customers, and
> I'd much rather they e-mail me than junk mail me. 

I have to admit, though, that I very nearly agree with you. I have
accounts on two ISPs, and I agree that they need to have some way to
let me know about changes in terms and conditions of service, phone
numbers, etc. In fact they both have internal newsgroups for
announcements of this kind, which you are required to read. But I
think my ISPs would be within their rights to email me to tell me they
were changing their phone number or DNS number or some such thing.
I'm on a lot of "product update" mailing lists to do with shareware I
use, and am quite happy to be. It's very easy stuff to filter
automatically, so it all ends up in a "shareware news" folder rather
than in my normal "in" folder.  Announcements from my ISPs could
obviously be handled the same way.

However, if they emailed me a LOT for silly reasons I would get annoyed.


Adam Atkinson (etlaman@etlxdmx.ericsson.se)
Man is a giddy thing, and this is my conclusion

------------------------------

From: baldwin@netcom.com (J.D. Baldwin)
Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Organization: Revealed on a need-to-know basis.
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:36:29 GMT


In article <telecom17.286.11@telecom-digest.org>, Mark Brukhartz
<mark_brukhartz@il.us.swissbank.com> wrote:

> The pager must transmit enough power to be heard from inside of fairly
> opaque buildings. Every joule transmitted comes from the one AA cell.
> I'm actually impressed that one lasts a month.

Of course, because of the ACK required before a page is cleared from
the system, you can turn the thing off when you're not wearing it, or
when you're out of range, and still be assured that you'll get any
pages you "missed" once you turn it on.  This is not possible with the
SkyWord service (or other traditional paging services), since such
pages are sent and just cleared without regard for whether they were
received or not.  (You know it's the "Information Age" when you can
describe a paging service as "traditional.")  Since I don't care about
getting pages in the middle of the night (except for the special
circumstance of being formally "on call" for a client), this is a
pretty good battery-saving strategy.

Others have complained that coverage is spotty.  I can't speak for
everywhere in the country (though if you live in Frederick, MD, you
can't exactly claim to be surprised by the lack of coverage at home!),
but I have been driving back and forth across southern Michigan on
I-94, and the coverage throughout that entire corridor is excellent.
A few spots of "Storing Messages," substantial stretches of "Basic
Service," but by and large most of it is "Full Service" (i.e., two-way
connectivity).

My verdict on this thing:  "Works as advertised."  These days, that's
pretty high praise for a new and highly-hyped technology.


 From the catapult of J.D. Baldwin  |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_    Finger baldwin@netcom.com |+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  for PGP public    |+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /         key information.  |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 00:44 EDT
From: Perillo@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Robert J. Perillo)
Subject: Re: Intro to Data Communications wanted?


> Are there any good books that provide an introduction to the realm of
> data communications or bookstores that specialize in books of this
> type?

    Most Community Colleges teach a Telecommunications Certificate
program, which includes an "Introduction to Data Communications".  I
have listed the standard texts used, which are available through most
bookstores. The Telecommunications program usually consists of five
core courses:

1 - Introduction to Telecommunications, Telecommunications Survey course.

    Studies the major aspects of Telecommunications including
history, legal and regulatory, technology, and management.
Analyzes voice, data, imaging, and video systems.
Describes Access-Egress, and Transmission facilities. Overviews
carrier services (links and trunks), Traffic Engineering, and the
OSI Reference Model.

Usually requires three books:

    "Voice & Data Communications Handbook", Bud Bates and Donald Gregory,
    McGraw-Hill, 1995, $65.00 .

    "Signals, the Science of Telecommunications", John R. Pierce and
    A. Michael Noll, Scientific American Library, 1990, $33.00;
         A good coffee table book with lots of pictures and diagrams 
         explaining basic telecommunications science.    

    "Newton's Telecom Dictionary 12th edition, the official
    Dictionary of Telecommunications, Computer Telephony,
    Data Communications, Internet telephony, Voice processing,
    Windows 95 & NT communications, LAN, WAN, and wireless
    networking"; Harry Newton, 1997, $27.95

2 - Telephony

    Basic Voice Telecommunications, basic voice services and facilities
    provided by the Telco's, Centrex, PBX, Voice Mail, Wiring and Cabling,
    Writing an RFP, Computer Telephony, and Automatic Call
    Distribution (ACD).

         "The McGraw-Hill Telecommunications Factbook"; Joseph A. Pecar,
         Roger J. O'Connor, and David A. Garbin, 1993, $29.95 .

3 - Introduction to Data Communications.

    Explains fundamentals of data telecommunications, the
    technologies behind Local Area Networks (LAN's), Internet,
    Public/Private Data Networks, transmission methods and protocols,
    including Network Management and Administration,
    plus network security services.

    Most colleges in the U.S. use:
    
    "Data & Computer Communications 5th ed.", William Stallings, 1996,
    Prentice Hall, $68.00 .
         The Standard Text, an excellent comprehensive and detailed book, 
         a mandatory reference in most offices.

    Most universities in Europe use:

    "Data Communications, Computer Networks and Open Systems, fourth
    edition", Fred Halsall, Addison Wesley, 1996, $59.95 .

    Some community colleges use a less rigorous, more introductory,
    more "why do we do this" text instead:

    "Business Data Communications, third edition", William Stallings and
     Richard Van Slyke, Prentice Hall, 1997, $57.00 .
          An excellent introduction and comprehensive overview of
          Data Communications.


4 - Network Facilities and Services.
    
    Explores in detail the PSTN Network Architecture, SS#7 - AIN,
    the business WAN architecture, Operations - Administration -
    Maintenance - Provisioning (OAM&P) concepts, value added
    features/services. Plus emerging technologies including
    ISDN, xDSL, Frame Relay, SONET, and ATM and how they fit
    into the architectures.
 
         "Enterprise Networking: Fractional T1 to SONET, Frame Relay
         to BISDN", Daniel Minoli, Artech, 1992, $89.00


5 - Telecommunications Management and Administration.
    
    Studies administrative issues affecting Telecommunications.
    Integrates the global market place, behavioral, and 
    technical aspects along with business models for the
    telecommunications industry. Includes budgeting,
    planning, project management, financial analysis, and
    decision making for a telecommunications project.
    
    Usually requires two texts:

         "Competitive Telecommunications, How to thrive under the
         Telecommunications Act", Peter K. Heldman, McGraw-Hill, 1997,
         $35.95 .

         "The Art of Strategic Planning for Information Technology",
         Bernard H. Boar, AT&T/Wiley, 1993, $39.95 .



Robert J. Perillo, CCP, CNE                Perillo@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Principal Telecommunications Engineer                     Richmond, VA

------------------------------

From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards)
Subject: Re: How to Ask For Internet Service?
Date: 21 Oct 1997 05:15:23 GMT
Organization: Ripco Internet, Chicago


In article <telecom17.287.11@telecom-digest.org>, Franky Wong
<fwong@uog2.uog2.uog.edu> wrote:

> Dear fellow guru,
> Recently our University is interested to send out a Request for
> Proposal for Internet carrier (e.g. T1 line).  I would like to make
> sure the RFP is technically sound.  May I ask what requirements should
> I state in the RFP?

Working with ISPs, I can state that if you put too many fiddly
requirements on the service, you won't get many Ps in response to your
RFP.

> For example, the followings are concerns that I could think of:

> 1 Price schedule for bandwidth upgrade in the future.

The upgrade path from a T1 isn't entirely clear, you can go to two T1
circuits load-balanced (a lot of ISPs don't know how to do this right)
or pay the local circuit carrier big bucks for fractional T3. Get
prices for the circuit and connectivity on both options.

Either would require a much higher-end router than a single T1
circuit, which is important if you are buying your router from your
ISP- planning to go to higher capicity is one of the few reasons to
consider a leased router.

You might ask the ISP to specify what they would recommend as an
upgrade path.


> 2 A certain ratio that would restrict the carrier from selling much
> more than the bandwidth that it actually has.

> I don't know the correct term, but I think it is not fair if the carrier
> sells T1 connections to ten customers when in fact it only
> has one T1 link to Internet.

All ISPs do some degree of this (overselling or over-committing
bandwidth),

I wouldn't try to get them to agree to a contract specifying a ratio,
but instead look for a performance guarantee, if you're paying for a
T1 you should get a T1's worth of bandwidth.


> 3 When the line comes to my premise, do I have to waste a subnet when
> hooking it up to my router?  Or is it recommended that I make use of
> some "IP-unumbered" feature available on CISCO or certain routers to
> save IP addresses?  Or thirdly, is it recommended that I rent the
> ip address from the carrier?

Have the ISP recommend a router configuration, and if they want to
have numbered links, the subnet should come out of _their_ address
space at no cost to you, in dollars or IP space.

------------------------------

From: Keith Abbott <keitha@net66.com>
Subject: Re: Question re: ROLM CBX
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:16:32 -0700
Organization: ISPNews


I believe Mr. Watson has the gist of it. You dont specify which Rolm
CBX you have (9751?, 8000?, Redwood(YAAAHHH)) but generally speaking
the '8' series of numbers is dedicated to trunk access codes that
allow the switch to select specific (usually dedicated) trunks to
remote (or in some cases not) sites. In this case, the 80-store
number -- could indeed select either a dedicated trunk up to a
hierarchy(er) switch or even (very improbable with 50 stores) the
80xxx could comprise the entire trunk-access code selecting a trunk
going directly to that store. The extra digits are then passed through
to the switch upline to be used to identify the station being
dialed. DISA (Direct Inward System Access) would not be used in a case
like this. You can see if your system is using 80 as a trunk access
code by looking in your first digit table (on a 9751 anyway) ie cnfg
li first_d all...

As for back-dooring things, thats probably not the type of information 
one would be giving over a public forum; and anyway, if the system uses 
leased lines you'd be better off robbing gas stations ... (that's not a 
recommendation you start that though.)

------------------------------

From: ccremer@fc.net (Charles Cremer)
Subject: Canada Area 867 Activated Today
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:18:52 GMT
Organization: Freeside Communications


The Yukon and Western Territories of Canada now has area code 867.
Formerly, the region shared an area code with Alberta.  Old Code:
403/819 New Code: 867 Type of Relief: Split Effective Date: 10/21/97
Permissive Dialing End Date: 4/26/98

Test Number(s): 867-669-5448 

------------------------------

From: Tom@Ytram.Com (Tom Allebrandi)
Subject: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:28:41 -0500
Organization: TA Software Systems/Frontline Test Equipment
Reply-To: Tom@Ytram.Com


Hi!

We have caller ID from GTE North Indiana (219-465). Generally, we are
getting data from most long distance callers.

Except one: A person who calls me from Lancaster, California
(805-949). I get a "data unavailble" when he calls. He says that their
local telco is GTE, and that he thinks that they have GTE long
distance.

This is particularly annoying since I work at home and use the caller
ID to screen calls during the day. The guy is calling on business, but
I can't tell that it is him since I am not getting any caller ID
information.

Does anyone know anything about this combination (805-949 calling
219-465) or who we can complain to??


Thanks!

Tom Allebrandi
Frontline Test Equipment | TA Software Systems | Valparaiso, IN USA
tallebrandi@fte.com      | tom@ytram.com       | +1-219-465-0108

------------------------------

From: Michael Kennedy <m.kennedy.glt@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Telco Joke
Date: 22 Oct 1997 16:43:15 GMT
Organization: Great Lakes Technologies


A telco guy buys a rifle and promptly goes to his local shooting range
to test his abilities. The shooting range attendant hangs a target at
which the telco guy proceeds to fire six shots at. The attendant thens
takes the unhit target down and yells to the telco guy, "All shots
fired were misses!". The telco guy looks at his rifle, covers the end
of the barrel with his hand and proceeds to blow off his finger. At
which point he yells to the attendant, "Everything works fine here, it
must be at your end!"

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    NYS-PSC Orders Rochester Telco to Give Service Rebates (Danny Burstein)
    New York Makes Slamming Illegal (Curtis R. Anderson)
    Spamford Canned Again! (Bill Levant)
    Pac Bell High Installation Charges For "HiCap" (Carlos Rimola)
    Canada's New Area Code (Tad Cook)
    Enterprise, Ringdowns, Rate & Route (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign (Mark J. Cuccia)
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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:42:44 EDT
From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: NYS-PSC Orders Rochester Telco to Give Service Rebates 


 from the PSC website:

STATE OF NEW YORK
Public Service Commission
                              John F. OMara, Chairman

Three Empire State Plaza, Albany, NY  12223

Further Details: (518) 474-7080
http://www.dps.state.ny.us
FOR RELEASE: IMMEDIATELY                             97084/93C0033

PSC DIRECTS ROCHESTER TELEPHONE TO REBATE ALMOST $1 MILLION
-- CUSTOMERS WILL SEE A ONE-MONTH REDUCTION IN THEIR BILLS SOON --

     Albany, October 22 -- The New York State Public Service
Commission today directed Rochester Telephone Corporation (RTC) to
rebate $953,000 to its customers for failing to meet certain service
quality standards in 1996.  The rebate will appear as a one-month
reduction of approximately $2.60 in customers bills beginning within
60 days of the Commissions written decision, which is expected to be
issued soon.

     Under a restructuring and multi-year rate stability plan
(commonly referred to as the Open Market Plan) approved by the
Commission for implementation on January 1, 1995, Rochester Telephone
is required, at the very least, to maintain a certain level of service
quality based on specific annual service quality measurement
categories.  These measurement targets include, among other things,
measuring how well the company reduces reports by customers of trouble
on their line, returns service within 24 hours to customers who have
lost it under normal operating circumstances, keeps appointments to
repair and install service, installs new service within five business
days and reduces complaints to the Commission.  The almost $1 million
in rebates for 1996 represents the maximum amount of penalties the
company could have incurred for that year under the Plan.

     As the Commission moves the telecommunications industry forward
into a more competitive local service environment, phone companies
will have to respond to market forces that will require them to
improve customer service, John F. OMara, Chairman of the Commission
stated.  The Open Market Plan we adopted for Rochester Telephone is
designed to maintain and improve service quality for cus tomers during
a transition to full competition where they will have a choice of
providers.  To the extent the company fails to keep its service
quality high, we will continue to require rebates to customers.

     In addition to the rebates, the Open Market Plan requires
Rochester Telephone to withhold payments of quarterly dividends to its
holding company, Frontier Corporation, if annual service quality
targets are not met.  As a result of its failure to meet the targets
in 1996, the company has paid no quarterly dividends in 1997 and must
continue to withhold such payments until it rectifies the service
quality deficiencies.


		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:08:56 -0400
From: Curtis R. Anderson <gleepy@intelligencia.com>
Organization: Gleepy's Henhouse
Subject: New York Makes Slamming Illegal


According to WGR radio, Governor George Pataki has signed into law two
bills intended to combat the act of "slamming" committed by disreputable 
long distance carriers.

One bill will allow the New York Public Services Commission to fine the
carrier up to $1,000 per reported offense for slamming.

The other bill will allow courts in the state to impose fines of up to
$100,000 per day for carriers who willfully continue slamming business
customers.

It is reported that this is the first time such a law has been passed by
any state.


Curtis R. Anderson, Co-creator of "Gleepy the Hen", SP 2.5?, KoX
http://www.servtech.com/public/cra/   | Illegitimus non Carborundum
ftp://ftp.servtech.com/pub/users/cra/ | Don't let the bastards
mailto:gleepy@intelligencia.com       | grind you down

------------------------------

From: Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:07:35 EDT
Subject: Spamford Canned Again!


    According to today's (10/21/97) __Philadelphia Inquirer__, AGIS
cut Cyberpromo's links again "...early Friday (10/17/97) morning, just
hours after the expiration of..." the Federal Court order that got
Spammy back on line last month.

    Presumably, this one will stick.  If no one will sell Spammy
access, what's he gonna do, buy MCI ?  Then again, why not; most of
the recent spam seems to originate on MCI.net, and everyone else is
trying to buy MCI anyway.

    Hope they'll take his check.... :-)


   Bill

------------------------------

From: Carlos Rimola <crimola@itk-tele.com>
Subject: Pac Bell High Installation Charges for "HiCap"
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:07:27 -0700
Organization: Telebit, Inc.


Hello,  I am having a difficult time dealing with Pac Bell and would
appreciate some feedback on my experience:

Some background - I am a developer of ISDN drivers and protocols and
for the past 3 years or so I have been using a switch simulator from
Teleos (now Madge Networks) to do most of my PRI testing.  The Teleos
switch does quite a nice job but once in a while you need a real PRI
line to verify your work or reproduce problems.

As a result of this, I (and my current employer) decided to order a
PRI line into my house where I do most of my work.  The original quote
from Pac Bell for this service was as follows:


                          Monthly       Installation
                          -------       ------------
     HiCap (T1 line)       $350.00        $1267.00
     PRI Interface         $220.00         $750.00
     2 way trunk            $16.13          $70.75
     Dialing plan (2)      $150.00         $400.00
     Trunk                  $16.13          $70.75
     DID Block (20)         $15.00         $150.00
                        ---------------------------
     Total                 $767.26        $2708.50

In addition to the above, we also ordered 2 BRI lines for a cost of $78
monthly and $650 installation.

I agreed to all of the above and was assigned to an account rep who
told me that I would eventually hear from "engineering" in regards to
an installation date.  About 3-4 weeks later I heard from Pac Bell
"engineering" and the mode of communication quickly went from very
courteous and informative to short and exasperated.  The engineer who
was assigned to my installation told me my HiCap (T1) line would be
installed on Oct 27 and that I would need to have a trench dug up to
the sidewalk near my house because I did not have enough wire pairs
coming into the house.  The same engineer indicated that Pac Bell
would not be able to do the work on the trench and that I should be
prompt because they would be ready to install the HiCap (T1) on the
27th.  He told me to have the trench ready no later than the 25th.

The next day, as I was starting to inquire into construction companies
that would do the trench work, I got a call from the Pac Bell business
office calling to let me know that my install date had been delayed to
the first week of Dec.  I then called my account rep to discuss the
delay and she, in turn, decided to conference call the "engineer".  When
the latter came on the line he was clearly annoyed that I had gotten the
account rep involved.  After a rude "I already told Carlos I would call
him with more details" he indicated that he would try to expedite the
installation and would get back to me.

The next day, the engineer got back to me -- via a terse legal fax
stating that I would have to pay an additional $7083.71 in installation
charges!  Quoting from the letter -  "This is to confirm arrangements
made between CARLOS RIMOLA and PAC-BELL-ENGINEER (name withheld) of
Pacific Bell, for the cost of special construction to provision a HICAP
(copper T1) at xxx address", later on it states "CARLOS RIMOLA shall:
Pay in advance a non-refundable lump sum of $7083.71...".  Note that
there was no discussion whatsoever of a legal agreement on the phone.

(The additional install charges bring the original cost of isntallation
close to $10,000)

BTW, no breakdown of the additional work was provided, just the $7083.71
quote and the provision that the "offer" is only valid for 30 days.

I have a couple of questions on this -

1) How common are these high additional charges and how do I know that
it simply isn't an arbitrary charge by an engineer who is having a bad
day?

2) What recourse, if any, does one have for having this investigated/
resolved?

I would appreciate any help/feedback on this.  I would specially like
to hear from people who have had a T1 line installed at their
residence and what their experience has been like.


Thanks in advance..

Carlos Rimola
Tel 408-266-1666
Fax 408-266-0170
crimola@bayarea.net
crimola@itk-tele.com


PS. Please copy responses to crimola@itk-tele.com

------------------------------

Subject: Canada's New Area Code
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:44:51 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Canada's new area code for the far north covers some serious area

TORONTO (AP) -- Canada's far north gets its own area code today,
serving a bigger area and fewer people than any other in North America.

The new code, 867, has been assigned to the Yukon and Northwest
Territories, which cover 1.5 million square miles between Alaska and
Greenland.

The area is larger than India, but its population in the 1996 census was
just 95,000. India has more than 952 million people.

Anne Grainger, a spokeswoman for the regional telephone company
Northwestel, said there are only about 70,000 phones in the 867 area
code.

Until now, the Yukon and the western part of the Northwest Territories
shared the 403 area code with Alberta, while the eastern part of
the Northwest Territories shared the 819 area code with northern
Quebec.

The change was made primarily because steady growth in Alberta had
pushed the 403 area code close to its limit.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:04:19 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Enterprise, Ringdowns, Rate & Route


In response to Stan Schwartz' article (and Pat's notes) on "Enterprise"
numbers and "Rate & Route" ...

Yes, such operator manually translated (looked-up) Enterprise, Zenith
and 'WX' numbers still do exist, but are grandfathered-in. They are
still provided to 'existing' customers by the LEC (Bell and
independent) local telcos, AT&T, Alascom (now part of AT&T), probably
GTE-Hawaii, and the Canadian Stentor (and local independent)
telcos. Don't expect a Sprint or MCI operator to know about any
Enterprise, Zenith or 'WX' number!

Similarly, there are still numerous remote/rural areas (hunting/fishing 
lodges, ranches, isolated villages, ranger stations, etc) all over the
NANP area (US, Canada, much of the Caribbean) which can only be
reached by operators of the telcos/carriers mentioned in the first
paragraph. If you are trying to reach such a 'ring-down' point in your
LATA (or when calling from within Canada), you call your 'traditional'
LEC local/toll opearator with a single '0'. If the 'ringdown' location
is outside of your LATA when calling from the US, you can only use the
AT&T operator, (10[10]288)-0('#'/0); or use 800-CALL-ATT /
800-3210-ATT and then cut-thru to the operator. Such calls to
'ringdown' points are billed at AT&T/LEC Operator _HANDLED_ rates!

As for "Rate & Route", in today's operator environment of computerized
TOPS/OSPS terminals with database lookups, the "Rate & Route" operator
has been mostly discontinued over the past ten years. I think that some
telcos in Canada still have their "Rate & Route" operators. NANP (Bell
System) "Rate & Route" operators were (are) reached as:
Kp+(NPA)+(0XX)+141+St.

The 'NPA' code and toll-office 0XX routing code are indicated in
parenthesis, since originating local operator dialing/routing practices
sometimes required the use of such codes, but not always.

In a city/metro area such as New Orleans, the local cordboard or TSPS
operator would only need to key Kp+141+St. This would reach an operator
(sometimes in the same large room) at a large desk with the some or all
of the primary AT&T Long-Lines (Kansas City MO) produced large routing
and rating documents, such as the "Distance Dialing Reference Guide"
(not all that big, but still a bit too bulky to be placed at every '0'
operator's position), and the _BIG_ "Operating Rate and Route Guide" and
the also big "Traffic Routing Guide". The "Rate & Route" desk would also
have all of the flip-cards and multi-leaf bulletins that the operator
positions would have (of frequently called points nationwide, and much
of the local/regional frequently requested locations) in addition to the
more comprehensive documents. Sometimes, the "Area Code Handbook", a
much more comprehensive looseleaf document alphabetically listing all
dialable towns, villages, neighberhoods, etc. in the NANP - would be
included at a "Rate & Route" desk.

All three of the above mentioned routing documents were looseleaf
documents were updated monthly or sometimes even more frequently. AT&T
LL in Kansas City would ship out an envelope of looseleaf pages to
insert (with instructions as to what to remove), to virtually every
possible operator center, toll switch location, etc. in North America
and to many locations in other parts of the world which had need to
maintain such AT&T LL documents.

The "Operating Rate and Route Guide" and the "Traffic Routing Guide"
were usually mounted on a 'display-rack', similar to what might still be
seen at a catalog order center, etc. if such merchants still maintain
paper records. This way, the "Rate & Route" operator had the documents
angled at 45-degrees and opened up, right in front of her. She didn't
have to keep digging-out, opening-up and flipping-thru individual
binders of looseleaf pages. She only needed to flip through to the
proper section of an entire document right there in front of her. There
were also tabbed-dividers to easily locate the proper section. Prior to
computer terminals/databases, local directory operators had similar
local number listings paper records as well.

Today, Bellcore maintains much of this rate/route/numbering information
(documents such as the LERG, etc), in various formats (paper, fiche) and
also electronic-data. As for the originating local/toll operator, these
days she only needs to key the necessary requests into her computer
terminal, and a database is searched to return the proper routing and
rating info, rather than reaching Kp+(NPA)+(0XX)+141+St.

As for customer requests to "Rate & Route", I can remember twenty years
ago in my High School days being told that "we cannot connect customers
to Rate & Route", although they _sometimes_ would connect me. Sometimes,
the original TSPS operator would stay on the line with me (and cut me
off if I asked for information that "only operators need to know
about"), other times she would simply pass me on to "Rate & Route", and
release her position from the connection.

As for discontinuing "Enterprise" service? I would assume that your LEC
or AT&T account representative _should_ have some information to simply
discontinue the 'reference' and account as an "Enterprise" number.
However, the actual dialable POTS number that the operator would dial-to
(and automatically bill as 'collect') might not be a number Stan's
company would necessarily want to disconnect The 'translated' number
might actually be a published (or even non-pub) POTS number that still
needs to be called to (from other company locations or employees), as
well as to place calls from!

NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Class-5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-)
NWORLAIYCM1 (BellSouth-Mobility Hughes-GMH-2000 Cellular-MTSO NOL)
NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 fg-B/C/D Accss-Tandem "Main" 504+)
NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:Opr-Srvcs-Tandem "Main" 504+053+)
NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+)
JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121)

MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:31:55 -0500
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign


Along major roads/highways in some parts of New Orleans, I've always
seen these yellow signs on utility poles indicating that there is
underground wiring in the vicinity, and to please contact the utility
company PRIOR to digging or dredging.

About ten years ago, AT&T put up some of their own such signs (with
the post-divestiture 'fried-brain' AT&T logo) to call an 800 number
before digging, due to a transcontinental underground cable in the
vicinity.

However, some of the older yellow signs with South Central Bell's name
(with 1970's and present Bell logo), but _no_ mention at _all_ of
BellSouth, are still around. They refer to a number (in the Metairie
suburb), to call prior to digging. It is an 83x- number (I don't
remember the last four digits).

TODAY, I noticed a much _older_ sign still attached to a utility pole.
It had the _OLD_ (pre-1970's) Bell System logo (the one which REALLY
LOOKED like a bell), and the following text:

WARNING: UNDERGROUND CABLE
Before digging in the vicinity, please call (collect) or notify the
Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Company, at LAfayette-9-9632, 520
Baronne Street, New Orleans 12, Louisiana.

I don't know if BellSouth still has any numbers 504-529-9xxx, but the
52x prefix was referred to as JAckson-x in the late 1950's and 1960's.
There were/are _many_ 529 (JAckson-9) numbers assigned to general
customers throughout the 52x area. However, Southern Bell's 'official'
numbers in the 529-8xxx and 529-9xxx ranges _were_ called _LAfayette-9_
in the late 1950's!

I just dialed (504) 529-9632, but I received a 'vacant line number'
recording (SIT-tones and "We're sorry, you have reached a number that
has been disconnected or is no longer in service. If you feel you have
reached this recording in error, please check the number, and try your
call again.")

NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Class-5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-)
NWORLAIYCM1 (BellSouth-Mobility Hughes-GMH-2000 Cellular-MTSO NOL)
NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 fg-B/C/D Accss-Tandem "Main" 504+)
NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:Opr-Srvcs-Tandem "Main" 504+053+)
NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+)
JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121)

MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497
WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to
Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail-

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:33:32 -0400
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: Toll-Free 3rd Report & Order, and NANC


On October 9, 1997, the FCC issued the THIRD REPORT AND ORDER in the
matter of Toll Free Service Access Codes, CC Docket No. 95-155.  It
charged the North American Numbering Council (NANC) with finding
replacement for Database Services Management Inc. (DSMI), and more
ominously, asks the industry to defer to NANC in matters of industry
guidelines, policy, number administration and assignment, as well as
dispute resolution. 

The SECOND REPORT AND ORDER, issued in April, 1997, is the most
industry-and-user-unfriendly ruling to date issued by the FCC,
encouraged in large part by the NANC. It's worthwhile here to revisit
some key elements of the April Order. 

The FCC declared:

1. A Presumption of Hoarding. Hoarding is defined as a toll free
subscriber acquiring more numbers from a RespOrg than it intends to use
immediately. Commission asserts the right to question the use of toll
free numbers even if subscribers are paying their bills. Routing
multiple toll free numbers to a single subscriber will create a
rebuttable presumption of hoarding or brokering. Furthermore, "There is
no way to determine if a subscriber is maintaining an inventory because
it may soon have a need for the numbers, or if the subscriber is
building a supply of numbers for possible sale, but in either scenario
the numbers are unavailable for toll free subscribers that have an
immediate need." Other factors that may be considered if a toll free
subscriber is alleged to be hoarding or brokering numbers are the amount
of calling of a particular number and the rate at which a particular
subscriber changes toll free numbers."

2. A Presumption of Warehousing. Similarly, "...if a Responsible
Organization does not have an identified toll free subscriber agreeing
to be billed for service associated with each toll free number reserved
from the database, or if a Responsible Organization does not have an
identified, billed toll free subscriber before switching a number from
reserved or assigned to working status, then there is a rebuttable
presumption that the Responsible Organization is warehousing numbers.
Responsible Organizations that warehouse numbers will be subject to
penalties."

3. RespOrg Penalties. "We conclude that the Commission's exclusive
jurisdiction over the portions of the North American Numbering Plan that
pertain to the United States, found at 251(e)(1) of the Communications
Act, as amended, authorizes the Commission to penalize RespOrgs that
warehouse toll free numbers. We may impose a forfeiture penalty under
503(b). In addition, if a person violates a provision of the
Communications Act or a rule or regulation issued by the Commission
under authority of the Communications Act, the Commission can refer the
matter to the Department of Justice to determine whether a fine,
imprisonment, or both are warranted under 501 or 502 of the
Communications Act. We also may limit any RespOrg's allocation of toll
free numbers or possibly decertify it as a RespOrg under 251(e)(1) or
4(i). In addition, RespOrgs that falsely indicate that they have
identified subscribers for particular numbers may be liable for false
statements under Title 18 of the United States Code. We direct DSMI, and
any successor toll free administrator, to monitor reserved numbers that
are being automatically recaptured after 45 days and to submit regular
reports to the Common Carrier Bureau, indicating which RespOrgs
repeatedly reserve toll free numbers without having an identified
subscriber."

4. Subscriber Penalties. "Toll free subscribers that hoard or broker
numbers will be subject to penalties similar to those we will impose for
warehousing [ie, note above: a fine, imprisonment, or both!]. The
penalties may include, but are not limited to, a forfeiture penalty
under 503(b) of the Communications Act. If a subscriber hoards numbers,
that subscriber's service provider must terminate toll free service."

As a practical matter, toll-free subscribers with multiple numbers are
presumed to be hoarding, and/or brokering, and subject to all sorts of
scary penalties.  

Although a number of petitions for reconsideration and clarification to
the second order have been filed and are still pending at the FCC, by
all appearances the NANC seems intent on enforcing the April order. It's
activities should be closely monitored by the industry and 800 users. 


Judith Oppenheimer
Publisher
ICB TOLL FREE NEWS
http://www.icbtollfree.com
mailto:joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com with your name, company 
name and title to activate 15-day FREE trial subscription.

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    Continued Billing Problems in Massachusetts (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Signaling, Routing and General Confusion (Brian Silver)
    County Criticizes Medic Alert Over 209 (Tad Cook)
    $5 LD Directory Assistance Charges? (Michael Hayworth)
    The NANP's New Manager: Lockheed Martin (Greg Monti)

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:47:02 -0400
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Continued Billing Problems in Massachusetts


Pat:

The following item comes to me from Terrance Beale who is the  
telecommunications manager for TIAC, a 65,000+ account ISP serving 
the east coast from Washington, DC to Portland, Maine.

This may be of interest to you and TELECOM Digest readers because it
is indicative of the problems which can occur when the RBOC local
exchange company is unable or unwilling to achieve a smooth
integration with the new-entrant LECs.  In this particular example,
Bell Atlantic appears to have found a way to generate revenue for
itself by incorrectly billing calls to CLEC Nxx- numbers.

Specificially, it has become apparent that a number of Massachusetts 
customers with "unmeasured" residential phone service are being 
improperly billed by Bell Atlantic for what should be unmeasured 
local calls within their contiguous calling area.

Massachusetts has tarriffed three primary residential rate plans:
measured, unmeasured and metro.  Measured treats every call on a 
message unit basis against a limited number of included units.  
Unmeasured provides unlimited calling to one's own town and each 
contiguous (abutting) town, then charges message units for calls 
beyond that.  Metro provides unmeasured service to most places in 
the Boston metro area.

Message unit calls are billed a call set-up fee plus a message unit 
charge computed based upon call duration and 'zone' (1, 2 or 3) 
being called.

The problem appears to arise because Bell Atlantic has not correctly 
programmed its billing system to recognize CLEC Nxx's in adjacent 
towns.  Instead of treating these as part of the unmeasured service, 
they are treated as 'Zone 1' calls (as if they were in the same zone 
but non-abutting) and billed as non-itemized 'measage units.'

For the consumer, it is impossible to determine the source of 
message units because Bell Atlantic does not print information on 
the number called on the phone bill and claims to not keep records of 
this information.  However, customers seem to be getting large 
message unit bills on phone lines which are used exclusively for 
modem access to particular ISP numbers provided by CLECs in 
continguous towns.  This is what has made this problem visible.

(Interestingly enough, in the correspondence cited below, this problem 
appears to have been occuring in calls to Bell Atlantic Nxx- numbers 
as well as to CLEC Nxx- numbers.  One may draw one's own inferences 
as to whether this represents an intentional overbilling or just 
incompetence and confusion.)

The following provides more information on this nasty little RBOC 
practice, which at a few dollars a month over many tens of thousands 
of customers may be adding significant 'found' dollars to the 
corporate bottom line:

      ---------- begin included text ----------
  
  From: terrence@tiac.net (Terrence Beale)
  Subject: Re: NYNEX?Bell Atlantic overbilling for ISP access
  Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:36:15 GMT
  Organization: The Internet Access Company

It is possible that you were billed as zone1 other or zone2  for calls
that should have been zone1 local from your rate center. The TIAC
Metro hunt lines are provided by Worldcom, a competitor to Nynex/Bell
Atlantic. When dialing any number, your local switch generates billing
information. This information is programmed locally at the switch. It
is possible that your local switch was misconfigured  to consider the
Worldcom Nxx of 588 to be something other than zone1 local to your
exchange. I have been doing all I can to identify these anomalies and
get them corrected. 

I would like to think that the fact that your billing seems to be
normal now is the result of my efforts, but this claim would be
difficult to quantify. Getting problems like this resolved does not
happen in the commonplace repair environment of opening tickets and
following up through repair channels. It is more or less a hit and
miss game of bitching at everybody you can get your hands on until you
score. However, the thing is that when Nynex uncovers a problem like
this, they invariably decline to admit it, they just fix it and hold
firm in their contention that they found nothing and fixed
nothing. Magically, the problem is gone.

The problem consumers such as yourself have been experiencing is that
Nynex, being deeply entrenched in decades of monopolistic tradition,
does not have a system in place that fully accommodates the existence
of a competitor. So, when Mr. Consumer calls the business office to
correct a billing error such as this, the rep will ask for call
detail. But, zone1 other and zone2 calls are not detailed on the bill,
they are simply lumped as total zone1 other and total zone2. So, you
have no way of saying "x number minutes to this number at this time
and date". So then they ask "ok what exchange were you calling ", and
you say "588". They look up 588, and the system doesn't recognize the
existence of 588, because it is not a Nynex Nxx. They then go digging
into a system that apparently does not generate consistently accurate
information. 

When you called, you were told that the exchanges you claimed to be
Medford and Cambridge were actually Boston Central, the Lexington
number is really in Waltham, and that Lexington and Bedford were not
the same rate center (a sign that the person you spoke with was
lacking clue). However, Mr. Snow also called the business office (yes,
the business office, not people with more clue who we could have
called like one of our contacts at Nynex Systems Marketing or one of
the market area centers or even one of my engineering contacts, he
called the same number that Joe Consumer would call). He asked the
same questions about the same exchanges and got from the rep he spoke
with 100 percent correct answers.

Nxx's are assigned by Bellcore, an orginazation which operates
independently of its owners, the seven Regional Bell Operating
Companies (<rant>did I say seven? Oh my of course I mean six. Don't
get me started on my thoughts on how letting one RBOC buy another is
conducive to the spirit of divestiture and expanded competition in the
telecommunications industry </rant>). It is Bellcore's role to
dictate which Nxx is assigned to which community. If Bellcore says 588
is Cambridge, than anyone up to and including your favorite flunkie at
Nynex Atlantic who says otherwise is nothing other than dead wrong.

I am not convinced that Nynex has at this time has completely
eliminated bogus billing spews from every switch in regards to
Worldcom Nxx's. I would appreciate any feedback on this issue from any
TIAC customer who feels he has been inappropriately billed for calls
to the Metro Hunt. The Metro Hunt exchanges are (508)861, (617) 249,
531, 588, 831, 992, (781) 480, 658,778,852, 970, and (978)964. 


Terrence Beale
Manager of Telecommunications
The Internet Access Comapany
 
in response to:

  From: Jay Hersh <drbeer@doctorbeer.com>
  Subject: NYNEX/BELL Atlantic over billing for ISP (TIAC) access
  Date: 21 Oct 1997 14:54:01 GMT
  Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc.
  Lines: 115

I'm writing to describe an incident which has been ongoing over 
the last several months.  It is a little bit complicated so I hope 
that you'll bear with me.

I have discovered that I have been being billed by Bell Atlantic 
for local calls as if they were zone 1 calls.  The calling plan which 
I possess is known as unlimited local residence which allows me to 
make calls in an unlimited manner to telephone numbers in towns which 
are physically adjacent to the one I live in, namely Arlington.  I'm 
make very few local calls other than those to my Internet service 
provider, however I do make a reasonable number of calls to them, 
typically one each evening of about 5 to 10 minutes duration.

As far back as I can determine up until the most recent bill I have 
been charged by NYNEX (now Bell Atlantic) at zone 1 rates for what I 
now know should have been local calls.  What caused me to initially 
notice this was that my Internet service provider introduced a new 
access number located in Cambridge.  Prior to that I had been using 
an access number located in Bedford.  I was at the time under the 
mistaken impression that the Bedford number (275-0331) was not a 
local call and that was why I was being billed for the zone 1 calls.

  [OB note: While the town of Bedford is separated from the 
  writer's location in Arlington by the town of Lexington, the 
  Bedford central office is considered to be a Lexington exchange 
  historically for tarriff purposes.  The Bedford number in 
  question is a Bell Atlantic (not a CLEC) Nxx, too.]

Therefore in order to avoid being billed for zone 1 calls I switched 
over to accessing my Internet service provider via the Cambridge 
number (588-8422).  I expected that this would greatly reduce or 
eliminate the number of zone 1 calls for which I was being billed.  
I found however that this was not the case.  Even after changing over 
to the Cambridge access number I was still being billed for zone 1 
calls when dialing this local number.

It was at this time that I began contacting representatives from 
NYNEX to ascertain what the problem was.  Initially I spoke directly 
with customer service representatives.  Receiving no accurate 
information from them, I then escalated the calls to customer service 
managers.

In July I spoke with a Mr. Attella who indicated to me that even 
though my Internet service provider (The Internet Access Co. aka TIAC, 
of Bedford) listed these phone numbers as local (I inquired about 
access numbers listed for Cambridge, Bedford, Lexington and Medford 
since these are all physically adjacent to Arlington) that these 
phone numbers actually existed at different billing exchanges than 
what TIAC identified them as.  Specifically he indicated that the 
phone numbers listed as Cambridge and Medford were Boston Central 
exchange, that Lexington was actually a Waltham exchange, and that 
Bedford was not physically adjacent to Arlington despite the fact that 
the NYNEX phone books themselves indicate that Bedford is considered 
part of Lexington for billing purposes.

I subsequently contacted TIAC to relay this information to them.  I 
spoke with a person there named Brad Snow [who is the TIAC employee 
responsible for physically locating remote points of presence for 
TIAC].  He indicated several things to me.  He indicated that upon 
contacting NYNEX he received entirely different information regarding 
the location of the access numbers both physically and with respect to 
billing.  At my request he also investigated the possibility that the 
third party companies which provide them their phone service might 
not actually be providing the service which TIAC thought they were 
getting.  Specifically it might be that TIAC thought they were getting 
local phone numbers in various towns but were actually getting a 
forwarding service whose toll charges got billed back to the caller.  
Brad was able to verify that this was not the case.

This led me, after several weeks of delay due to vacation and personal 
reasons, to once again try contacting NYNEX for an explanation of these 
erroneous billing practices, and a credit for the overbilled amounts.  
On the subsequent contact I spoke with a Ms. Fowler.  Ms. Fowler 
indicated that both the Bedford and Cambridge numbers should indeed be
local calls and she had no explanation as to why I was being billed for 
them as if they were zone 1 calls.  She took my contact information and 
indicated she would call me back, something which she has not done over 
the last 14 days despite my having called and left messages inquiring 
about the status of this investigation.

Since my conversation with Ms. Fowler I have received another phone 
bill from Bell Atlantic.  This bill finally reflects my actual zone 1 
usage in that rather than being billed for some 50 or 60 zone 1 calls 
for some 250 to 300 minutes I was billed for only two dozen calls 
totaling 74 minutes.  There has been no change in my actual calling 
habits and I still contact my Internet service provider's access 
numbers almost daily.  I can therefore only conclude that whatever 
previous billing error was being made has now been corrected.  I have 
not however been credited for the approximately $3 to $4 per month 
(approximately 25 calls of 10 minute average duration billed at 1.6 
cents per call and 1 cent per minute) over billing which has occurred 
over the last 10 to 15 months.

NYNEX has to this point insisted that because these zone 1 calls are 
not itemized that it is not possible for them to ascertain whether 
these calls were actually made by me, or whether they have been 
billing me erroneously for well over a year now.  Of course given that 
there is no itemization of these calls the only concrete proof that 
I have is the variation between bills for the month in which I was on 
vacation and therefore made no access calls to my Internet service 
provider, and the most recent bill from Bell Atlantic which represents 
a significant drop in both total number of zone 1 calls placed by 
me as well as the total number of minutes those calls comprise despite 
no change in my actual calling habits. 

At this point I intend to contact both some of the local consumer 
advocate people on television (such as at WBZ TV) and the attorney 
general.   However if you believe you have also been erroneously over 
billed and would like to be a party to this complaint please email a 
brief (hopefully briefer than mine :-) synopsis of your situation 
along with name, address, telephone number and email information.  I 
will forward these along with my complaint.  If any of the consumer 
advocates or the attorney general does begin a formal inquiry into 
what appears to be a systematic over billing of customers by Nynex, 
then they will probably contact you regarding the outcome of your 
individual complaint.

Thanks for your attention,


Jay


[Note from The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>]

Shawn Lewis of XCOM provides some additional insight into the 
problem with NYNEX/Bell-Atlantic's billing problems:

  From: "Shawn Lewis" <slewis@xcom.net>
  Subject: Re: NYNEX?Bell Atlantic overbilling for ISP access
  Date: 22 Oct 1997 11:08:48 GMT
  Organization: XCOM Technologies, Inc

Maybe I can be of some assistance here.  The number in which you are
dialing, though reaching TIAC, the actual phone service is supplied to
TIAC by a CLEC (Competetive Local Exchange Carrier) - In other words
another phone company competing with NYNEX.

I myself work for XCOM, which is also a CLEC.  BA/NYNEX is known for
this gross billing problem, and just last week, under emergency relief
and consideration from the the Mass.  Department of Public Utilities -
filed by a petition submitted by my company -- a meeting was held
between NYNEX/BA, XCOM and the DPU.

Well, NYNEX got slammed real hard.  The DPU is the controlling party
of regulated entities:ie MFS, TELEPORT, XCOM, etc.  All you need to do
is contact the DPU explain your problem to them, (my meeting was with
the DIRECTOR of the DPU, so he is very aware of the problem) As well,
TELEPORT has filed a petition supporting XCOM and complaining of the
same problems with BA/NYNEX.

Now that this problem has been brought to light, watch how fast the
DPU will get NYNEX to credit you ALL that is do you, and if you should
still have problems, feel free to EMAIL me personally, as NYNEX was
mandated to provide me with a single point of contact for these
disputes.  Granted, we were granted this person to handle any NYNEX
customers calling our customers and being billed incorrectly, but I
think I can pass along the Directors name within NYNEX.

TIAC, and the rest of the ISP's are not the ones at blame, and believe
me, their intentions are 100% honorable.  Unfortunately, NYNEX/BA
would love everyone to leave there current LOCAL isp, and move on over
to the new BA Internet Service.  They will probibly stop at nothing.
Please take into consideration the ISP has a love/hate relationship
with BA/NYNEX and I am sure TIAC did everything in its power to help
remedy the problem, but they were not to blame.


Good luck.

Shawn Lewis
slewis@xcom.net         617-500-0000
XCOM Technologies, Inc          617-500-0001
VP/Chief Operating Officer

------------------------------

From: Brian Silver <see@my.sig.for.address>
Subject: Signaling, Routing and General Confusion
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:33:06 -0400
Organization: DECthreads


I'm curious about the "stuff" that happens when I call my ISP using my
modem. I have read all the info I can get my hands on (can't seem to
find a FAQ, a pointer would be great!), and I have a few questions.

The way I see it is that my modem goes off-hook. This signals my CO
switch, and I get a dial tone. This tells me (or my modem) to send the
address information, the number. So the CO swtich gets the address
information, and lets say for the sake of the argument, that the ISP
(or destination number) is located on another switch.

So, my CO switch then *finds the next switch that it needs to send the
address information to*.

Question #1. How does this happen? My understanding is that based on
the number, the switch has a routing table that tells it based on time
of day, and trunk availability what switch to go to next. So if the
switch sees an area code, it knows "Hey, that call needs to go
InterLATA, so this is the next switch in line", if it sees an
exchange, it knows based on that what trunk to use. Right? Just switch
configuration, or does SS7 have something to do with this?

Ok, so the first switch now knows what switch to go to next. It must
signal that switch, telling it it has an incoming call. Now, I think
there are a number of signaling methods, but lets focus on Robbed Bit
and SS7 and MF. My understanding is that using MF signaling, the first
switch would assert the proper tone on the trunk to the next
switch. Does this happen in one time slot in a TDM trunk? If the
signaling is robbed bit, does it just assert the bit? I'm a bit
unclear on how signaling happens on T-carrier trunks. Also, how does
this happen using SS7? Does the first switch send a request to an STP,
and address the information with just the destination phone call? How
does SS7 tell the first switch what trunk the call needs to go out?
I'm a bit confused when it comes to call routing and SS7. Does SS7
even play any role in call routing?

Ok, so the first switch signals the second, and then second winks
back, telling the first that its ready for address information. This
process happens all down the line until the last switch is reached.

The last switch then says "Ah! This call goes to this number, and its
on me!". I assume that switches are configured to tell the switching
tables "This number == This Line"?

Now here is where the fact that I'm calling my ISP comes into play. My
ISP gets a T1, lets say. The switch then hunts for a TDM slot on the
trunk for the call, right? And it uses robbed bit signaling (unless
ISDN, when it uses Q.931 ...).

Question #2. (Ok, more like question number 800 ...) Does the single
bit for signaling represent the presence/absence of the old-fashioned
2600Hz tone? The way I see it working is the ISP RA box sees the
signal bit on the incoming DS0, and knows to pick up the phone
(equivilent of a ring). But how does off-hook get signaled?

Needless to say, I'm a bit confused, but I've gotten this far and I'd
really like to know how all of this works. I know that I'm probably
asking someone out there for a dissertation on the phone system, but a
pointer to a book or what not where all this is outlined would be
great. All the books I have read separate routing and signaling, but
it seems to me that the two are somewhat linked since MF signaling set
up the route at the same time the signal was propagated.

Thanks. Feel free to mail directly, if you'd rather.


Brian

Replace ! with @ for email address: silver!zko.dec.com

------------------------------

Subject: County Criticizes Medic Alert Over 209
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:21:45 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)



County criticizes Medic Alert in attempt to keep 209 area code

By Joe Bigham
Associated Press Writer

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) -- Fresno County is trying to keep the 209 area
code by criticizing Medic Alert, the medallion identification service
cited as a key reason to retain 209 in the northern San Joaquin
Valley.

Three emergency medical workers, including the county's emergency
medical director, said they've never used Medic Alert's emergency
telephone number and have never seen anyone else do so.

The declarations were among material the county gathered and presented
to an administrative law judge for an appeal hearing Thursday and
Friday in a last-ditch effort to retain the 209 telephone area code.

The PUC already has decided to keep the 209 area code in the northern
valley counties of San Joaquin, Stanislaus and Merced and adjacent
Sierra counties. A new 559 area code is to be assigned to Fresno,
Tulare, Kings and Madera counties in late 1998. The administrative law
judge is expected to decide by the end of the year whether to uphold
the PUC decision.

Officials of Turlock-based Medic Alert said changing the area code in
the north could endanger 3 million people in North America whose
bracelets or necklaces carry the group's 209 telephone number. They
feared doctors or nurses would be unable to get through to learn
additional information beyond that carried on the patient's medallion.

"We cannot, even with our best efforts, reach our total membership to
change their emblem's call number," said President Tanya Glazebrook.
"Emergency responders will be confused and frustrated. Members will be
in danger."

But Fresno County's appeal is largely based on a contention that few
medical providers call Medic Alert even if they check the medallions
for data on ailments or medications to which a patient is allergic.
That was the substance of written declarations by a nurse, paramedic
and Dr. Gene Kallsen, chief of emergency medicine at the formerly
county-run hospital and head of the county's emergency medical system.

"In my 20 years as an emergency room physician, I have never used the
telephone number provided on the Medic Alert medallion for any purpose,"
Kallsen wrote.

But in oral testimony Thursday, Kallsen called information on Medic
Alert medallions "very helpful."

And Kallsen said emergency physicians nationally endorse Medic
Alert. He added, "I endorse it as well."

Medic Alert spokesman David M. Roth said the nonprofit group receives
20,000 emergency calls a year. Roth called Fresno County's attack on
Medic Alert "a desperate and ill-considered strategy."

The county suggested technical methods to let the southern counties
use 209 but keep it in the north just for Medic Alert.

Fresno County's appeal also contends the southern counties should keep
the 209 area code because they have more residents than the north.

But H. Douglas Hescox, the California area code administrator, wrote
in a declaration that the number of residents and Medic Alert were not
the main reasons 209 is being kept in the north.

Hescox said the decision was made because there are more telephone
prefixes in the northern end of the valley, indicating the north has
more telephone customers. As of September, the north had 295 prefixes
and the south 280, Hescox wrote.

"I estimate that if the north had to change its area code instead of
the south, about 150,000 additional customers would need to change
their numbers," he added.

------------------------------

From: Michael Hayworth <msh1@airmail.net>
Subject: $5 LD Directory Assistance Charges?
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:45:26 -0500
Organization: Innovative TeleSolutions


I've got two AT&T directory assistance charges on my Lubbock, TX
office's phone bill -- one is for $4.95 and the other is for
$3.95. The AT&T customer service office claims that "we have different
charges to different areas of the country for long distance directory
assistance".

Did I miss something here? We don't use it often, but I don't recall
paying more than about $.75 for LD directory assistance in the past.


Michael Hayworth
VP Technology
Innovative TeleSolutions

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:50:09 -0400
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com>
Subject: The NANP's New Manager: Lockheed Martin


On page 37 of the October 20, 1997, issue of _Network World_, buried
at the bottom of a story entitled, "New Pay Phone Ruling Upsets AT&T,"
is a note that the U.S. Federal Communications Commission has picked a
new North American Numbering Plan Administrator (NANPA).  It will be
"a division of Lockheed Martin Corp."

The story says that the decision ends a five-year process to name a
successor to replace Bell Communications Research (BellCoRe) which was
"judged to be too partial" toward the five Bell Operating Companies
who own it.


Greg Monti  Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
gmonti@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~gmonti

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    Need Help Asynchronous and BISYNC (Felix Leung)
    Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This? (Ravi Prakash)
    Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Jeff Smith)
    Any Problem Running Voice and Data Over Frame Relay? (Thomason Fan)
    New OK Area Code (Tad Cook)
    InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Bill Levant)
    New York Times on Net Day (Ronda Hauben)
    Tower Site Leases (Allison Hift)
    Report: Net Telephony Potential Drain For Telcoms (Eric Florack)
    Cellular Dialing in MA Due to New Area Codes (David E. Sheafer)
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From: Felix Leung <felixleung@technologist.com>
Subject: Need Help Asynchronous and BISYNC
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:04:23 -0500
Organization: University of Winnipeg


Does anyone can give me a hints about my answer for the question below?
Any suggestion would be appreciated.

A sender has two messages of 25 characters and 100 characters to send.
He understands that asynchronous protocol involves a start bit, a parity
bit, and a stop bit for each character that is sent. For BISYNC
protocol, the whole message can be sent in a block and it involves an
overhead as follows:

    Line bid of 3 characters: SYN SYN ENQ
    Line acknowledgement of 4 characters: SYN SYN ACK0
    Framing of 6 characters: SYN SYN STX ETX plus 2 for BCC
    Data acknowledgement of 4 characters: SYN SYN ACK1

Assume seven-bit characters for each case.

1) Determine for each message:
    i) The number of bits which are transmitted using Asynchronous
protocol
    ii) The number of bits which are transmitted using BISYNC protocol

2) Given that:
    Efficiency of a protocol = data bits/(data + overhead bits)

Determine the efficiencies of the two protocols for each of the
messages.  Draw your conclusion as to what protocol to use for each
message.

Answer:
1.)
i.) 3 control bits per char. * 25 characters = 75 controls bits
25 characters * 7 bits/char = 175 bits
Total = 75 bits + 175 bits = 250 bits are transmitted using
Asynchronous.

3 control bits per char. * 100 characters = 300 controls bits
100 characters * 7 bits/char = 700 bits
Total = 300 bits + 700 bits = 1000 bits are transmitted using
Asynchronous.

ii.)
SYN SYN ENQ + SYN SYN ACK0 + SYN SYN STX message ETX BCC + SYN SYN ACK1
+ SYN SYN STX EOT BCC + SYN SYN ACK0
= (3*7) + (4*7) + (3*7 + 25*7 + 3*7) + (4*7) + (6*7) + (4*7)
= 21 + 28 + 21 + 175 + 21 + 28 + 42 + 28
= 364 bits are transmitted using BISYNC.

SYN SYN ENQ + SYN SYN ACK0 + SYN SYN STX message ETX BCC + SYN SYN ACK1
+ SYN SYN STX EOT BCC + SYN SYN ACK0
= (3*7) + (4*7) + (3*7 + 100*7 + 3*7) + (4*7) + (6*7) + (4*7)
= 21 + 28 + 21 + 700 + 21 + 28 + 42 + 28
= 889 bits are transmitted using BISYNC.

2.)
175 data bits / 250   total bits = 70% efficient
700 data bits / 1000 total bits = 70% efficient

175 data bits / 364 total bits = 48% efficient
700 data bits / 889 total bits = 79% efficient

Using asynchronous to send a small message will be much more efficient
than the technique that used by BISYNC, because the size of overhead
bits is increased proportional with the size of the message. However,
when using BISYNC technique for sending message, it is good for
sending a very large size message, because the overhead bits is
constant regarding the message size. As we can see from the previous
efficiency figure, 79% was obtained by using BISYNC method when
sending a large message, which is more efficient than the method
which used by Asynchronous.

The conclusion of sending each message will be as follow:

25 characters --> Asynchronous
100 characters --> BISYNC


Felix Leung
University of Winnipeg
Business of Computing
http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~cleung1

------------------------------

From: ravip@utdallas.edu (Ravi Prakash)
Subject: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This?
Date: 25 Oct 1997 02:58:35 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas


A friend of mine has joined University of Texas at Arlington's
graduate school this fall and is sharing an apartment with some other
international students in Arlington, TX. The local service provider in
that area is Southwestern Bell. When my friend initially called to get
a telephone connection, Southwestern Bell asked for some kind of
identification. When he explained that he was a new international
student they asked him for his passport number, citizenship, etc. and
gave him a telephone connection.

Recently, he received the following letter from Southwestern Bell (I
have deleted my friend's name as well as the name of the Southwestern
Bell person who signed the letter):

        ========

Dear Customer: XXXXXXX,

We are unable toverify the information you provided to us at the time you
applied for our new service. Therefore we request to provide the following
information to our office:
a) Picture ID (driver's license or Texas I.D)
b) Social Security card
c) Lease for your present address or the tax records if you own the
property.

Please send photocopies of the above 3 items to the following address:
SWB TEL Co, PO Box xxxx, Four Bell Plaza, 10th floor, Dallas, TX 75393-0170.

To avoid interruption of your telephone service, the information must reach 
our office no later than 10/24/97. If service is interrupted, a reconnection
charge of $14.85 per line will apply.

Sincerely,
XXXX YYYY
Rev. Management Representative.

     ==========

My friend has applied for his social security number. But, the card
hasn't arrived yet. Moreover, since getting the telephone connection,
he has been regularly paying all the telephone bills.

My question is: Is Southwestern Bell within its rights to disconnect
the telephone? After all, he provided them will all the identification
information they requested. Isn't it their responsibility to verify
the information? Moreover, he has never defaulted on any bill
payments.

I would greatly appreciate your input on this matter.


Thanks,

Ravi Prakash (ravip@utdallas.edu)		www.utdallas.edu/~ravip
Computer Science Program
Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and Computer Science
The University of Texas at Dallas

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:30:59 -0400
From: Jeff Smith <smasher@idirect.com>
Subject: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes


Bell Canada is set to annouce 4 new area codes for the GTA.  (New
Metro Toronto).

1.  Durham Region         - will move to a new area code

2.  Peel & Halton         - will move to a new area code
(these regions will share area code until split is needed)

3. York                   - will retain the current 905 area code
 - the rest of 905 not in the GTA will move to a new area code.

4. (new)  Toronto         - will either get an overlay or a split of
the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a
seperate area code.

By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities.
Namely:        1. City of Toronto
               2. City of Durham
               3. City of Peel
               4. City of York
               5. City of Halton

People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the
regions ready now!

------------------------------

From: Thomason Fan <thomason@hkstar.com>
Subject: Any Problem Running Voice and Data Over Frame Relay?
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:06:29 +0800
Organization: Asia On-Line Limited, Hong Kong.


We are a multi-national company having multiple locations.

Currently, we are using TDM multiplexer to connect our WAN circuits
over International least lines for voice and data routing.

We are now facing requirement to expend our network to have more
locations and some existing location requires upgrade on bandwidth.

Since TDM is not as efficient as FRAD on bandwidth utilization, we are
considering replacement of our entire TDM multiplexer to FRAD
multiplexer.

We are not experts on this area, and would like to seek advice from
you.

Currently, we have short-listed four vendors: ACT, MICOM (Marathon),
NETRIX (2210) and NUERA (F120 and F200).

Our criterias are voice quality, compression rate, voice delay,
bandwidth utilization and stability under heavy voice and data
traffic.

We network topology is mesh network. So, ability to provide fault
tolerance and load balance on multiple paths is a must. Is there any
problem about that ? (Most circuits are 64k bandwidth.)

Some paths are public and some are least line running frame
relay. Would that introduce any trouble?

Any comment?


Thanks in advance,

Thomason

------------------------------

Subject: New OK Area Code
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:11:14 PDT
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


New Area Code Taking Effect in Oklahoma

By Shaun Schafer, Tulsa World, Okla.
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Oct. 25--Callers dialing a 405 area code number outside of Oklahoma
City after Friday are going to hear a "Hello," but they are getting
much closer to hearing, "We're sorry, your call could not be completed
as dialed. ..."

A new era in state telecommunications begins on Saturday as the first
of two new area codes for the state goes into effect.

Nov. 1 marks the start of the five-month transitional dialing period
for the new 580 area code. Callers have five months to get used to
dialing 580 for calls to the Panhandle and northwestern and southern
parts of the state. The 405 area code will continue to serve Oklahoma
City and central Oklahoma. The area covered by 918 is unchanged.

Dialers have until midnight March 31 to adjust to the new number. At
that point, those dialing 405 for a call into the new 580 area will
receive the "We're sorry ..." message.

Other than learning the new numbers, the impact will be limited. The
new code doesn't affect emergency 911 services, long-distance charges
or local service rates. If a call was a long-distance call, it
continues to be a long-distance call. If it was a local call before
the change, it still will be a local call.

During the transitional dialing period, Oklahoma telecommunications
service providers will be conducting an educational campaign to inform
customers about the new area code. The campaign includes a variety of
customer mailings, bill inserts, news announcements and other
communications.

"All of the telephone companies are required to notify their
subscribers," said Pat Petree, Oklahoma Corporation Commission
spokesman. "Beyond that, they really don't have to do anything."

During the transition, customers dialing from the 918 area code in
northeastern Oklahoma can use either the 405 or 580 code and their
calls will be completed.

Telecommunications companies said they also hope the transition period
will allow businesses time to adjust to the change. They encouraged
all business customers in the state to contact their private branch
exchange vendor to make sure their systems are programmed to send and
receive calls using the new generation of area codes -- like 580 --
that do not have a "1" or a "0" as a middle digit.

Additionally, Oklahoma businesses can begin making the necessary
changes to company letterhead, advertising, promotional materials and
business cards to reflect the new code.

Telephone customers also are being asked to reprogram residential and
business speed dial and auto dial services on telephones and fax
machines.

While the telephone companies may at some later rate case request a
hike to cover the costs of the change, customers immediately will have
to bear whatever business costs -- such as new stationery -- the
change brings. The corporation commission, which was responsible for
overseeing the process of adding a new area code, said it has received
a small number of calls from concerned citizens. Many of those
callers, however, have asked for reimbursement, Petree said.

The 580 code was assigned by Bellcore, the administrator of codes
throughout North America, after the corporation commission's June 26
ruling in favor of implementing a new code through a geographic split
of the current 405 code. A plan to overlay the area with the new
number, allowing 405 and 580 to work simultaneously in one area, was
rejected.

Without the change, 405 would have run out of new numbers by September
1998. Although not yet under the gun, the 918 area code is facing the
same pressures from the rapid growth of cellular phones, faxes, modems, 
pagers and additional phone lines. Commission staff estimated a number
covering the rural area outside Tulsa would have to be assigned before
the first quarter of 2001. That new code for northeastern Oklahoma has
not been picked.

------------------------------

From: Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:15:21 EDT
Subject: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification


   We had some trouble in my office this week with inTRA-LATA toll calls.

   We just switched from ATX (10008) to Worldcom (10555) and calls to
certain nearby toll points were being misrouted by Bell Atlantic
(which SWORE that our PIC codes were all correct; they weren't, but
THAT's another story ...)  preventing us from completing those calls,
except by using an IXC, at ungenerous rates).

   At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code
610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment.  I did; it works
just like (700) 555-4141.

   I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else?

   BTW, if you're lucky (?) enough to have BA inTRA-LATA toll, dialing
700-4141 gets you the dulcet tones of James Earl Jones thanking you
for using CNN, er ... BA.  It's ALMOST worth switching to BA just for
that ;-).

   By the way, Worldcom offers UNTIMED calling to the entire metro
Philadelphia area at about .07/call; BA charges (at best) .04/minute
during the day.  How does Worldcom do this and not go broke (I assume
that they **don't** re-sell BA).


Bill

------------------------------

From: ronda@panix.com (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: New York Times on Net Day
Date: 26 Oct 1997 15:55:54 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


An article in Saturday's {New York Times} (10/25/97) "Internet's Value
in U.S. Schools Still in Question" (page 1) described the 2nd annual
netday and showed the prejudice of some of the press against the
educational use of the Internet. While the {New York Times} has had
many glowing accounts and hype about how the Internet is crucial for
business and the commercial world, when it comes to describing or
discussing the importance of the Internet for schools, they have
trouble finding reasons to support the educational development and
spread of the Net.
 
     They raise the question "Will the teaching of basic skills 
be harmed or helped by the cyber-revolution?" giving the 
impression that kids who can't use computers and the Internet 
will be able to survive in a world where computers and the Net 
are becoming an increasingly important part of the lives of those 
who do have access.
 
     One wonders why the {New York Times} reporter doing the story 
wasn't asked to interview teachers or students in the New York 
City area who are using and finding the Net valuable. (Though New 
York City does seem to be very behind other areas in the country 
and world who are trying to get students access to the Internet 
as soon as possible.) 
 
     I have learned of schools around the country where students 
in intermediate school are getting Internet lessons and being 
encouraged to be on the Internet. While here in NYC this seems 
the exception rather than the rule. 
 
     The story begrudgingly reported that "And many techers report
that writing E-mail to students in other communities and other
countries, for instance, seems to motivate students to want to write
and read." However, the NYT story basically fails to understand that
the importance of the Internet is "communication". That people are
able to communicate with each other and all gain in the process. 
Instead the story seems to think of the Internet as only a one way
media with people being swamped by information they don't know how to
deal with.
 
     It is disappointing to see such reporting continue by the {New
York Times} at a time when there is a great need among the public to
have real information about how the Internet is being used in schools
around the world (and the U.S. is quite backward in this regard) as
well as in the U.S. Instead it seems their pro commercial line that
the Internet should be reserved for business and making money has
interferred with their raising the necessary public questions as to
the appropriate public policy for the future development of the
Internet.
 

Ronda  ronda@panix.com
 
               Netizens: On the History and Impact
                   of Usenet and the Internet
             http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook
            also in print edition ISBN 0-8196-7706-6 
 
------------------------------

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:23:54 EDT
From: Allison Hift <hift@cobra.law.miami.edu>
Subject: Tower Site Leases


Does anyone have information on the average term (initial and renewal)
of PCS tower site lease agreements that have been entered into in the
past year?  What are the average rental values (of course, this is
very fact-specific) in residential areas, urban areas -- for placing a
tower on government property?  Private property?


Allison K. Hift, Pending Bar Admission
Leibowitz & Associates, P.A.
1 Southeast First Avenue, Suite 1450
Miami, Florida  33131-1715				
http://www.library.law.miami.edu/~hift
hift@cobra.law.miami.edu	
(305) 530-1322

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 06:06:47 PDT
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: Report: Net Telephony Potential Drain For Telcoms


 From INTERNET DAILY:

The Internet could cost telephone companies as much as $8 billion over
the next four years as consumers turn to the Net for voice and fax
services, Bloomberg news reported. A Falls Church, Va.-based
consulting firm. Action Information Services, issued a report saying
the lower costs of the Net will also prompt phone companies to lower
their prices.  The report said international long distance companies
will be hit the most, perhaps amounting to as much as 4.5 percent of
the total revenues from telephone business between countries by the
year 2001, the Bloomberg report said.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:52:09 -0400
From: David E. Sheafer <dsheafer@necc.mass.edu>
Subject: Cellular Dialing in MA Due to New Area Codes


With the recent change of area codes in Massachussets, Bell Atlantic
Mobile required some customers to change their entire cellular number
and are now using exchanges that are just for exclusively cellular,
prior to the area code change, some exchanges were mixture of landline
and cellular.

Eg. my number was 508 989 XXXX which was both landline and cellular,
my new number is 508 523 xxxx.

The difference is cellular exchanges, at least in Massachusetts are a
local call from anywhere in within the area code boundaries, currently
508 523 xxxx is a local call from anywhere within 978 and 508.  The
question is will it remain local in the 978 area code and how will it
be dialed. They way to dial local calls out of area code because is
NPA-NNX-xxxx, but no 1, within area code, it is just NNX-xxxx.  But
currently the only way the call works from either area code is
523-xxxx, calling either 508 523-xxxx or 1 508 523-xxxx from the 978
area code results in a recording saying the call was not dialed
correctly and to "call repair service or check your owners manual".

When I called Bell Atlantic Mobile to ask them the proper dialing they
said to call the LEC, which is Bell Atlantic.  Bell Atlantic couldn't
tell me either.

As 508 523 xxxx is local to the 508/978 boundaries and I presume will
remain that way, as all local call should remain the same, just
dialing practices will change.

My question is what should be the proper dialing procedure for calling
508 523 xxxx from 978, does anyone have any thoughts.


Thanks for your input,

David    dsheafer@necc.mass.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:22:35 EST
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)
Subject: Phone Problems in Nebraska?


I needed to call someone in the Omaha, Nebraska area (actually west of
Omaha about forty miles) on Sunday and after several attempts to get
through and getting only busy signals, fast busies or nothing at all I
found out that phone service was at a crawl in that area due to a very
massive storm Saturday. Apparently two or three feet of snow, some
extremely high winds and other conditions knocked out a lot of
circuits. Does anyone have an update? I guess this condition was all
over that area with Colorado also affected quite heavily.

I can tell you that from the looks of things outside here today, fall
has definitly arrived, or maybe it is winter :( ... rain and very high
winds all day and not a bit of sunshine. It is one of those days where
the cold and dampness seem to get into everything; everyone has either
a stiffness in the neck (like me), is crabby or otherwise indisposed
to do much other than sit in a semi-darkened room close to the radiator
with a cup of soup and think back to better days and times. I am 
listening to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony being performed on Family Radio
this afternoon. Earlier they did a bunch of the Handel Coronation
Anthems, the works written for the coronation of Queen Caroline. For
whatever reason, Handel always cheers me up. :)  


PAT

------------------------------

From: jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com (John David Galt)
Subject: Re: Enterprise, Ringdowns, Rate & Route
Date: 26 Oct 1997 18:00:55 GMT
Organization: Sacratomato Cynics


Quoth Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>:

> Similarly, there are still numerous remote/rural areas (hunting/fishing 
> lodges, ranches, isolated villages, ranger stations, etc) all over the
> NANP area (US, Canada, much of the Caribbean) which can only be
> reached by operators of the telcos/carriers mentioned in the first
> paragraph. If you are trying to reach such a 'ring-down' point in your
> LATA (or when calling from within Canada), you call your 'traditional'
> LEC local/toll opearator with a single '0'. If the 'ringdown' location
> is outside of your LATA when calling from the US, you can only use the
> AT&T operator, (10[10]288)-0('#'/0); or use 800-CALL-ATT /
> 800-3210-ATT and then cut-thru to the operator. Such calls to
> 'ringdown' points are billed at AT&T/LEC Operator _HANDLED_ rates!

Here's something I've wondered about for awhile: why not allow
customers to dial these points themselves (using the 88x pseudo-NPAs)?
(This would ring the same manual operator point it does now, but would
bypass the earlier operator step used now.  Billing would work as if
it's an automatic exchange.)  Is there some technical reason this
can't be done, or is it the way it is because the union wants to
preserve needless jobs?


John David Galt


[TELECOM Editor's Note: You may be correct about the union. One case
I remember from several years ago involved a little town in northern
Minnesota. The name Grand Portage comes to mind. It was listed as an
operator handled call, with the operator to dial 218 plus 446(?) plus
four-D. In other words, the operator could dial the number but the
public presumably could not. As an experiment I tried dialing direct
218-446-number and got through just fine.   PAT] 

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 28 Oct 97 07:34:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 292

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Paging Firm Collapses (Tad Cook)
    Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic (Robert J. Perillo)
    Book Review: "The Internet Unleashed" by Ellsworth et al (Rob Slade)
    Slamming: Some Results (Jim Youll)
    Gilder Says Reno Attacked Microsoft Too Late (Eric Florack)
    Bell Atlantic Still ISDN Clueless (Ken Levitt)
    Employment Opportunity: Software Engineer Wanted (James A. Gayhart)

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Subject: Paging Firm Collapses
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:50:41 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


California Bay Area Pager Service's Collapse No Surprise

By Jon Healey, San Jose Mercury News, Calif.
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

SAN JOSE, Calif.--Oct. 27--The collapse of EconoPage Inc., the largest
outlet for pagers in the Bay Area, has prompted a confusing din of
finger pointing and recriminations. But the key cause of the trouble
is clear: EconoPage gave its customers better rates than it could
afford.

The San Jose paging services reseller used low prices and heavy
advertising to fuel an astonishing boom, going from scratch in late
1995 to an estimated 250,000 customers in four states today. So
attractive were its bargain-basement rates that EconoPage
single-handedly drove down the cost of paging across the board in the
Bay Area, competitors say.

Now, with the company having abruptly closed its stores Wednesday,
there is debate about whether EconoPage was doomed from the start. Its
pitch was $89 for a pager and one year of unlimited paging on a local
number, $119 for two years and $139 for three years. But because
EconoPage was paying suppliers approximately $60 for these pagers
and $24 or more for each year of service, it's difficult to see how it
expected to cover costs, said Danny Lee, a top executive at Future
Paging and Cellular Inc. of San Francisco.

The company's two main suppliers, on the other hand, say that
EconoPage's strategy for generating revenue could have worked. As they
portray it, EconoPage hoped to lure customers with low initial costs
and then raise the prices when they renewed their contracts. The
problem fingered by the suppliers was on the other side of the ledger:
how much EconoPage spent.

EconoPage's offices remained closed Friday, and its executives could
not be reached for comment. In a private conference Wednesday,
EconoPage told its creditors that it was closing its stores because it
could not pay its bills. Its customers stand to lose as much as $7
million worth of prepaid service, while its other creditors are owed
about $4 million.

Angry customers flooded the Santa Clara District Attorney's office
with complaints Friday, and Assistant District Attorney Robin
B. Wakshull said the office was looking into the situation. She added,
though, that the office did not have enough information yet to decide
whether to take action.

Meanwhile, an attorney in San Francisco said his firm is investigating
legal action on behalf of EconoPage's customers, whose prepaid
contracts for paging service are being terminated by the company's
suppliers. The firm, Chavez and Gretler, specializes in consumer
class-action cases, attorney Alexander Trueblood said.

As a reseller, EconoPage did not operate a paging network; instead, it
resold the pagers and services it bought in bulk from some of the
nation's largest paging networks, including PageNet and PageMart
Inc. of Dallas.

Lee, whose company was the largest reseller of paging service in the
Bay Area before EconoPage arrived, said he had warned his suppliers
that EconoPage could not survive at the prices it was charging. He
accused EconoPage of engaging in a pyramid scheme, taking money from a
steady stream of new customers to cover the losses associated with
previous customers.

David Quintana, president of Beeper City Inc., said, "They were
promising customers things that no one in the industry thought they
could deliver.  They put their prices too low. With the type of
overhead that you need with the product, the customer service, the
overhead of the stores, you can't continue to do business profitably."

Other resellers dropped their prices to compete with EconoPage, but
Lee said that Future Paging stayed on safe financial ground by paying
suppliers in advance if they would accept prepayment. EconoPage's
competitors also spent far less than EconoPage did on advertising,
running smaller and less frequent ads, Lee said.

Stas Wolk, a vice president at PageNet, said his company had doubts
about EconoPage's pricing strategy, but those doubts were overcome
last year when EconoPage explained its strategy. Although the company
advertised a one-year rate of $89, the average customer went for a
more expensive one-year plan that was more profitable for EconoPage,
Wolk said.

"They were were talented at (selling) people additional pieces of
equipment, accessories and services," Wolk said. He added, however,
that PageNet had no insight into how EconoPage spent the money it
collected from customers.

PageNet is now in the process of cutting off service to customers who
purchased paging contracts through EconoPage, but it is also offering
them a discount rate of $60 to continue their service for another
year. Eligible customers are those whose pagers have a PageNet logo.

EconoPage's biggest growth spurt came in the last six to 12 months,
after it had opened more than 30 retail outlets, Wolk said. About five
months ago, though, checks that EconoPage had written to PageNet for
pagers started to bounce.

Wolk said that PageNet soon barred EconoPage from activating any new
PageNet pagers. The two companies also worked out a payment schedule
in June for EconoPage's past-due bills, which amounted to more than $1
million, according to papers filed with the Secretary of State's
office.

Bridget Cavanaugh, a spokeswoman for PageMart, said her company had a
similar experience with EconoPage. It also worked out a payment plan
with EconoPage and barred the company from activating any new PageMart
pagers, Cavanaugh said, although that did not stop EconoPage from
signing up new customers through other suppliers.

EconoPage's financial picture improved over the summer, Wolk said, but
things took a sudden turn for the worse in late August. PageNet took
no action at first, hoping that EconoPage could work out a sale to
Source One, an Illinois-based paging company. PageMart, however,
started terminating its EconoPage customers in mid-October because of
the unpaid bills.

In the midst of this turmoil, EconoPage continued to sign up new
customers and renew old ones. In fact, it paged some customers and
urged them to renew early at a discount: $89 for two years, instead of
the usual charge of just under $120.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 16:17 EST
From: Perillo@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Robert J. Perillo)
Subject: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic


    Bell Atlantic has recently angered some customers with its new
policy not to honor its inside-wire wire-maintenance plans for data or
modem problems on its telephone lines. This decission is seen as a
marketing move to stimulate demand for ISDN lines, and assymetrical
digital subscriber line service (ADSL) when it becomes available next
year. Bell Atlantic, has stated, that its regular repairmen are not
equipped to resolve line data problems, and can rarely solve the
problem resulting in a wasted service call.  Under the new scheme,
with a hefty per-visit service charge, they will send a specialist,
line/data technician who might be able to fix or improve the
service. These charges will still apply even if the problem or fix is
found to be on the Bell Atlantic portion of the facilities.

    This questions the advisability of subscribing and paying the
extra monthly fees for these wire-maintenance plans?  Many
Telecommuters, or business World Wide Web users were paying these fees
as insurance to allow them to operate their PC at home without costly
interruption.
    
    Also, Bell Atlantic seems to be saying that it considers its
normal telephone lines as "voice only" services or facilities?

                 -------------------------

    "In a letter to all customers of its wire-maintenance plans,
    Bell Atlantic said the plans will no longer cover
    ''malfunctions in the dial tone resulting from the use of
    voice-grade lines to transmit or receive data or signals which
    exceed the operating capabilities of the line.'' In effect,
    the Bell Atlantic policy means subscribers to the optional 
    wire-maintenance plans will not be covered for service calls 
    that involve problems resulting from modem use on a standard
    voice line. Of the 21 million access lines in Bell Atlantic's
    territory, 13.2 million are residential. The company would not
    disclose how many customers use its wire-maintenance plan. 
    According to Bell Atlantic, ''a service charge may apply when a
    repair person is dispatched and the problem is with the   
    transmission or receipt of data or signals which are beyond the
    operating capabilities of the dial-tone line.'' ".
 
    "Bell Atlantic instituted the new policy because its support staff
    can rarely solve problems on its voice-grade lines
    that slow down or disrupt data transmissions, said John White,
    executive director of outside plant technology and standards 
    at Bell Atlantic.

    The problems are especially acute with 28.8-Kbps modems, which
    ''use more bandwidth than we've designed the network
    to provide,'' White said. Users of 28.8-Kbps modems typically
    do not get 28.8-Kbps performance because of the limitations
    of Bell Atlantic's voice-grade circuits, he said. Standard
    voice lines operate at 300 to 3,000 hertz, but a 28.8 modem
    requires a range of 465 to 3,520 hertz, he said."

   "Other service providers do not plan to follow Bell Atlantic's lead.
   ''We provide customers with communications services, and a
   phone line provides both voice and data,'' said Gordon Reichard,
   acting president of Ameritech Advanced Data Services.
   ''To go in and tell customers that their line is specialized
   for voice applications is off base.'' "


   Reference: InternetWeek (formerly CommunicationsWeek),
              "Bell Atlantic To Modem Users: Don't Call Us",
              John Rendleman, Monday, October 13, 1997.



Robert J. Perillo, CCP, CNE               Perillo@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Principal Telecommunications Engineer                    Richmond, VA

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:49:49 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The Internet Unleashed" by Ellsworth et al


BKINTUNL.RVW  970521
 
"The Internet Unleashed", Jill Ellsworth et al, 1997, 1-57521-185-8,
U$49.99/C$70.95/UK#46.95
%A   Jill Ellsworth
%A   Billy Barron
%C   201 West 103rd St., Indianapolis, IN   46290
%D   1997
%G   1-57521-185-8
%I   MacMillan Computer Publishing
%O   U$49.99/C$70.95/UK#46.95 317-581-3535 800-428-5331
%P   1269
%T   "The Internet Unleashed"
 
This book is very "net-like" in a way: it seems to have been produced
the way the Internet is run, by consensual anarchy.  No one is taking
responsibility here; there isn't even an editor listed.
 
Individual items in the book are excellent.  Overall, there is a
tremendous resource of Internet information.  Unfortunately, there are
also inconsistencies in the quality, style, audience, and technical
level of the material.  One chapter may contain an in-depth analysis
of certain RFCs and specifications, while the next is a "gee-whiz-
isn't-this-neat" puff piece.
 
There are fifty-four chapters, three appendices, a generally well done
"yellow pages", and a detailed table of contents which takes up
twenty-seven pages, alone.  The three chapters of part one is the
usual conceptual and historical introduction.  Part two is a guide to
access and connection: generally pretty useful but often apt to leave
you in the lurch just as you get into trouble.  Parts three, four, and
five cover communication, including mail, mailing lists, Usenet news
and real time chat systems.  Some of the chapters give great detailed
documentation on, for example, various UNIX mail readers, but related
chapters give little coverage of the use of mail for information
gathering and dissemination.  Part six deals with both access tools
for obtaining information, and resource tools for finding information.
Seven through ten all really deal with various aspects of the World
Wide Web; even those chapters on specific topical uses of the net deal
mostly with browsing through related sites.
 
The volume of paper does not correspond to an equal volume of
material.  There is much duplication of content.  The duplication of
actual chapters has been reduced, but you can still tell that this is
a "committee" book.
 
I would recommend this as a resource, but not necessarily as a sole
source.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994, 1997   BKINTUNL.RVW  970521


DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer        ROBERTS@decus.ca         rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
      BCVAXLUG Envoy      http://www.decus.ca/www/lugs/bcvaxlug.html

------------------------------

From: jim@newmediagroup.com (Jim Youll)
Subject: Slamming: Some Results
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:45:45 -0500
Organization: Agent Zero Communications


My business lines were slammed last month by a Sprint reseller called
"LDC" based in Oldsmar, Florida. I'll summarize:

This took over 15 hours of work to sort out, between Sprint's
non-cooperation/disinformation, the inability to reach anyone at LDC,
and the time spent explaining, re-explaining, and handling all the
followup calls from those carriers which were helping me.

Sprint accepted NO responsibility and would not even tell me anything
about the reseller except the company's TOLL phone number. I asked for,
and received, "the company's toll-free number" but the number I was
given was for a completely different reseller who told me he's tired of
acting as whipping-boy for all of Sprint's ill-behaved resellers. Two
Spring operators hung up on me when I asked for a supervisor.

Sprint would not remove the charges, pay to have the problem resolved,
or contact the reseller. The president's executive assistant told me it
was my problem, that she would not help me, and that I shouldn't call
there again.

AT&T (my chosen LD carrier) took an interest, and has also been
proactively contacting customers when it becomes aware that their PIC
has been changed (one of my clients was slammed by these same guys
this month / AT&T made him aware of it). But AT&T can't do anything to
penalize the offender. AT&T's pandering calls became a little
annoying, as they phoned to "reassure me" and so forth. I UNDERSTAND
the process - that's why I knew I'd been slammed before anyone else
did. A lawsuit by AT&T against LDC would satisfy me. Apparently
they're not going to do that. Too bad for everyone.

GTE (my LEC), and I admit I'm surprised to say this, was the most
helpful of any of the involved parties. While they had LOST my PIC
restriction (which allowed this to happen) they did expedite the
signature form to me, called today to followup, didn't call with
pandering niceties, promised to remove the PIC-change charges, will
recourse all LD charges back to Sprint for the slammer period, and
flagged my account for a followup in a few weeks.

LDC Telecomm -- "Says here we had a voice authorization. There's
nothing we can do about it.". Enough said, except that they only work
9 to 5, if that, and you can't talk to anyone but the receptionist. 
(STOP acting surprised by their response). BTW, if you've had
problems, their "Street address is proprietary" (yes, that's a quote
from Chris Knox of LDC)...  but I have it: LDC Telecommunications,
Inc., 391 Roberts Rd., Suite 4, Oldsmar, FL 34677. The Florida
Attorney General's office is acquainted with the company's antics. LDC
President Henry Rodriguez was not taking calls when I phoned. Their
registered agent is Shelley Weber, 1245 Court ST., Suite 102,
Clearwater, FL 34616. Weber represents the phone company, something
called Shirley Weber Inc, and three kaput corporations including a
closed paintball park.

FCC -- e-mailed instructions for filing a complaint, and is VERY aware
of LD slamming and the problems it causes. I sense they are quite fed
up with this crap.

Ohio Attorney General -- clueless, and useless. Referred me to the
Better Business Bureau. I'm working on referring myself to court
instead. My only regret is that our AG is a "good ol' gal" from my
county, and my friends there probably helped her win this office.

Conclusion: To hell with Sprint. As for the rest, I'll let you know
how the court case goes if I take it there. It appears that I have
several options under Ohio law.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:51:56 PST
From: Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com>
Subject: Gilder Says Reno Attacked Microsoft too Late


 From INTERNET DAILY:

** Gilder: Reno attacked Microsoft too late

Technology futurist George Gilder thinks this week's Justice
Department complaint against Microsoft Corp. is "irrelevant and too
late."  Antitrust regulators are seeking a $1 million-a-day fine
against Microsoft for allegedly violating a 1995 agreement barring the
company from anti-competitive practices. He said "the contest will be
settled by the success of Sun Microsystems and IBM in perfecting Java,
rather than by the success of Janet Reno in collecting fines against
Microsoft," according to CMP's Network Computing magazine. Gilder also
predicts that Java-based browsers ultimately will outperform Windows
integrated browsers when it comes to network applications.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't think Ms. Reno is very good at
math. Let's pencil this out: how many shares of Microsoft does Gates
own? How much is the value of each share? His net worth now is around
48 billion I think. Given a fine of a million dollars per day, Gates
will be broke in 101 years ... <grin> ... allow of course for interest
to accrue on the remaining billions before she is allowed to get her
hands on his money.  PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:58:27
From: Ken Levitt <stop.abuse@usa.net>
Subject: Bell Atlantic Still ISDN Clueless


In case any of you in Massachusetts thought that the recent radio
commercials for ISDN by Bell Atlantic means they are ready to really
sell it, think again.

I have a customer with two offices in different towns (five miles
apart).  They need a data connection up all day, so I decided to price
out ISDN service for 2 B channels.  Here is what happened:

1.  I call BA business line department, and I'm told I need to talk to
the ISDN department.

2.  I am connected to the ISDN department where they ask me for the
phone number of the business.
   Me: I don't have the phone number of that location, I have the 
business name and address.
   BA: We can only search by phone number.
   Me: Why don't you just look up the number.
   BA:  I'm not able to do that.

3.  I hang up, call directory assistance to get the number, then call
back the ISDN people at BA.

   BA: What is the area code and exchange?
   ME: 978-957
   BA:  I can't find that.  Can you tell me what the old area code 
was?
   ME: 508
   BA: There is no direct ISDN, but there may be "Virtual ISDN" if you
           are within 18,000 feet of the Lawrence Hub.
   Me: Can you tell me if this location is within 18,000 feet of the
           Lawrence Hub?
   BA:  No, the only way to find out is if you place an order for the 
line.

4.  I did not place the order, but I did get prices for installing and 
using an ISDN line at each location.  Note, prices do not include
the $135/hour charge for inside wiring.

Install:   2 * $328 =  $656

Monthly costs:

  Monthly fee:  2 * $70       =         140
  usage costs for 160 hours =   307
                                        =====
  Total monthly cost                    $447

Would anyone really pay this much?


Ken Levitt
kl21@usa.nospam  (replace .nospam with .net)

------------------------------

From: James A. Gayhart <Emperor_ACE@SilverJAGuar.com>
Subject: Employment Opportunity: Software Engineer Wanted
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:33:02 -0800
Organization: The Silver JAGuar, Inc.
Reply-To: Emperor_ACE@SilverJAGuar.com


BAJA Systems
Job Description:  Software Engineer
Department:  Software Development and sustaining engineering
Title:  Software Engineer
Reports To:  Senior Software Engineer

Primary Function:

        A Software Engineer's primary responsibility is as a team member
        in the design and development of products that make up the BAJA
        Systems product line.  In addition to this is the responsibility
        of sustaining engineering on existing products for addressing
        the needs of the customer.  This requires a thorough understanding
        of MS Basic, Pascal, or Visual Basic languages in a Client/Server
        environment.  In addition, a working knowledge of Data Base 
        programming, Data communications, and Cellular swithc interfaces
        is helpful.

        A BAJA Systems Software Engineer must have a dedication to our 
        client base to provide the best service and support possible.

Major Duties and Responsibilities:

        Assist the team in project planning and scheduling.
        
        Assist the team in developing documentation in the areas of
        Functional and Design Specifications, Test Plan, and Operational
        Instructions.

        All code written must be written to adhere to BAJA coding
        standards.

        All code written must be tested in accordance with approved test 
        plan.

        Customer support must be handled with a "Do Whatever It Takes"
        attitude.

        Some travel may be required (up to 25%).


Education Required:  BS in Computer Science or equivalent experience.

Experience Required:

        At least two years software engineering experience in MS Basic,
        Pascal, or Visual Basic development or sustaining engineering.
        Experience in Data Base, Data Communictions, Telecommunications
        is a definite advantage.

Make all replies to:

        General Manager
        146 Wikiup Drive
        Suite D
        Santa Rosa, CA  95403-7756
        (707) 575-9984
        (707) 575-3705 Fax
        softcell@microweb.com


James A. Gayhart AKA Emperor ACE
The Silver JAGuar, Inc.         
http://www.silverjaguar.com     
mailto:Emperor_ACE@SilverJAGuar.com

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Subject: TELECOM Digest V17 #293

TELECOM Digest     Tue, 28 Oct 97 08:29:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 293

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: New York Times on Net Day (Thomas G. Spalthoff)
    Re: Signaling, Routing and General Confusion (Al Varney)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (John Driscoll)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (Marty Bose)
    NiCad Memory Effect (was: New Cellular Phone Experience) (Bob Keller)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Lee Winson)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Marty Tennant)
    Re: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This? (Bruce Wilson)
    Re: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This? (Louis Raphael)
    Re: Phone Problems in Nebraska? (Jason Forst)
    Re: Phone Problems in Nebraska? (Bruce Wilson)
    Re: Phone Problems in Nebraska? (Greg C. Ashley)

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From: spalthof@at_umdnj.edu (Thomas G. Spalthoff)
Subject: Re: New York Times on Net Day
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:59:10 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Medical School


In article <telecom17.291.7@telecom-digest.org>, ronda@panix.com
(Ronda Hauben) wrote:

> An article in Saturday's {New York Times} (10/25/97) "Internet's Value
> in U.S. Schools Still in Question" (page 1) described the 2nd annual
> netday and showed the prejudice of some of the press against the
> educational use of the Internet. While the {New York Times} has had
> many glowing accounts and hype about how the Internet is crucial for
> business and the commercial world, when it comes to describing or
> discussing the importance of the Internet for schools, they have
> trouble finding reasons to support the educational development and
> spread of the Net.

Counter-examples?

I, for one, am an advocate of using the Internet in schools where
appropriate.  What we're seeing today, though, is a headstrong rush
into wiring all schools without understanding why this is so
necessary.

For me, it's a clear case of coders just deciding to do it, without
the engineers figuring out what we're trying to accomplish.
 
> They raise the question "Will the teaching of basic skills 
> be harmed or helped by the cyber-revolution?" giving the 
> impression that kids who can't use computers and the Internet 
> will be able to survive in a world where computers and the Net 
> are becoming an increasingly important part of the lives of those 
> who do have access.

I don't agree.  First, the issue is primarily about money.  Vast sums
of scarce educational resources are being spent to wire schools, many
times depriving other programs of the resources to survive.  Is
Internet access more important than, say, art or music classes?
Second, the Internet is a tool.  It is not an end in itself.
Certainly it is a great equalizer as it gives many people access to
rich and varied information.  However, without the basic skills to
understand and appreciate what they can discover, it will end up being
a great time-waster.
 
> One wonders why the {New York Times} reporter doing the story 
> wasn't asked to interview teachers or students in the New York 
> City area who are using and finding the Net valuable. (Though New 
> York City does seem to be very behind other areas in the country 
> and world who are trying to get students access to the Internet 
> as soon as possible.) 

The cases of this are spotty, in my experience, which I admit to being
limited.  Only where an educator has gone to great lengths in his or
her personal life to learn how to navigate the net are these results
realized.  The efforts to wire schools are so expensive that many
schools have money for the access, but then spend a negligible amount
of resources on training.  For a similar scenario, check out how many
schools have PCs running only Windows, with no applications, and the
teachers never turn them on because they've never been trained to use
them.

> The story begrudgingly reported that "And many techers report
> that writing E-mail to students in other communities and other
> countries, for instance, seems to motivate students to want to write
> and read." However, the NYT story basically fails to understand that
> the importance of the Internet is "communication". That people are
> able to communicate with each other and all gain in the process. 
> Instead the story seems to think of the Internet as only a one way
> media with people being swamped by information they don't know how to
> deal with.

There needs to be more reasons to have every school wired other than
writing email to one another.  The educational gain here has not been
proven, to the extent that it could be, from everything I've read.
 
> It is disappointing to see such reporting continue by the {New
> York Times} at a time when there is a great need among the public to
> have real information about how the Internet is being used in schools
> around the world (and the U.S. is quite backward in this regard) as
> well as in the U.S. Instead it seems their pro commercial line that
> the Internet should be reserved for business and making money has
> interferred with their raising the necessary public questions as to
> the appropriate public policy for the future development of the
> Internet.

Actually, I believe they're a voice of reason, saying "whoa, what are
we spending all of this money for?"  Certainly there are compelling
reasons for doing this, lets just make sure we've got our eyes open
and our priorities right.  "Because everyone's doing it" should not be
the reason when monies for education are so scarce.

For me, I would much rather see schools getting wired for the
teacher's benefit.  Educators typically communicate within the
confines of their own building or, at best, local school district.  To
give them a tool to enrich their classroom and coursework makes sense
to me.  Then, once the advantages are more clear, you would have an
environment that would allow teachers to start using the technology as
an instructional aid.

Computers haven't been the silver bullet to improving education that
everyone thought they would be.  We should move very cautiously when
spending more educational dollars on technology without some clear
direction and proven results.


Thomas G. Spalthoff
spalthof at umdnj.edu

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From: varney@ihgp2.ih.lucent.com (Al Varney)
Subject: Re: Signaling, Routing and General Confusion
Date: 27 Oct 1997 04:51:34 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies, Naperville, IL
Reply-To: varney@lucent.com


In article <telecom17.290.2@telecom-digest.org>, Brian Silver
<see@my.sig.for.address> wrote:

  [dials number located on another switch, then...]

> So, my CO switch then *finds the next switch that it needs to send the
> address information to*.

> Question #1. How does this happen? My understanding is that based on
> the number, the switch has a routing table that tells it based on time
> of day, and trunk availability what switch to go to next. So if the
> switch sees an area code, it knows "Hey, that call needs to go
> InterLATA, so this is the next switch in line", if it sees an
> exchange, it knows based on that what trunk to use. Right? Just switch
> configuration, or does SS7 have something to do with this?

   In most cases, the "routing table" is queried using the first three
digits of the dialed number (while you are dialing the remainder of
the number), and the information from that particular entry in the
table is examined.  If you are dialing a seven-digit number (as
determined from the entry), the switch patiently waits for you to
finish dialing.  The entry would also supply a "route index".  This is
used to look up the first-choice trunk group (group of circuits to a
common destination) to the next switch.  Also, the type of charge
record would be determined from the entry.

   If the first three digits appear to be an NPA, the entry may
indicate to reject the call or may indicate seven more digits are
needed.  This decision is also affected by "prefix" digits (0, 1,
10XXX, etc.) that you may have dialed.  So "222" may be recognized as
an office code, but "1+222" may be recognized as an NPA.  Also, the
entry in the routing table may indicate "interLATA" based on only the
particular NPA, or may indicate that three more digits must be
examined before determining the "interLATA", "route index" and type of
charge for this call.

   SS7 is a signaling mechanism -- it isn't involved in the decision
of trunk selection.

> Ok, so the first switch now knows what switch to go to next. It must
> signal that switch, telling it it has an incoming call. Now, I think
> there are a number of signaling methods, but lets focus on Robbed Bit
> and SS7 and MF. My understanding is that using MF signaling, the first
> switch would assert the proper tone on the trunk to the next
> switch. Does this happen in one time slot in a TDM trunk? If the
> signaling is robbed bit, does it just assert the bit? I'm a bit
> unclear on how signaling happens on T-carrier trunks.

   Ahh, Signaling.  Confusing term by itself.  In telephony, there is
Address Signaling and Supervision Signaling.  You have to know from
context which is being discussed.  Sometimes Supervision Signaling is
just called Supervision.  Address Signaling may be called Outpulsing
when applied to trunks.

   On your touch-tone (officially DTMF) line, you signal Supervision
by going off-hook (a change in current flow in the line).  You signal
Addresses using pairs of AC tones that are interpreted as keypad
digits.

   On MF trunks, Supervision is signaled using a variety of methods.
Switches may use two extra leads (E&M) to signal over, but the circuit
outside may use in-band tones or current reversals or what-ever to
actually reach the other end.  On digital MF circuits (your TDM
trunk), robbed bits are typically used for signaling Supervision.
There are actually two (A&B in SuperFrame) or four (ABCD in Extended
SuperFrame) signaling indicators available in each direction for each
64kbps channel.  Address signaling uses pairs of tones, different from
touch-tone, and signals these tones over the channel used for the
call, prior to connecting you to the channel.  This is called in-band
signaling.

> Also, how does this happen using SS7? Does the first switch send a
> request to an STP, and address the information with just the
> destination phone call? How does SS7 tell the first switch what trunk
> the call needs to go out?  I'm a bit confused when it comes to call
> routing and SS7. Does SS7 even play any role in call routing?

   SS7 is for signaling (both Addresses and Supervision).  Routing is
something a switch does inside itself.  (Well, CCIS6 was an exception,
but it's no longer used.)  Think of routing as picking a trunk based
of digits.

   SS7 identifies switches (and other nodes) using Point Codes (like
IP Addresses).  Trunks are identified by Circuit Id Codes (like port
numbers) plus the Point Codes at each end.  Once routing in the first
switch identifies an idle trunk in the appropriate trunk group, it
also knows the Circuit Id and far-end Point Code of the next switch.
This information is sent to an STP, along with the Called number, the
Calling number, Billing information, desired Bearer Capability, etc.
The STP uses the destination Point Code to determine where to send the
message.  The switch receiving this message will locate the appropriate 
incoming trunk based on the Circuit Id Code.

> Ok, so the first switch signals the second, and then second winks
> back, telling the first that its ready for address information. This
> process happens all down the line until the last switch is reached.

   True for MF signaling -- SS7 doesn't usually send anything to the
preceding switch until destination switch is reached and an idle line
is rung.  If busy, the originating switch will just get a RELease
message with a "user busy" cause value, play a busy tone to the caller
and idle the outgoing trunk.

> The last switch then says "Ah! This call goes to this number, and its
> on me!". I assume that switches are configured to tell the switching
> tables "This number == This Line"

   The incoming address is translated through the routing tables.  In
the case of a terminating number, the routing table entry will be
something other than a "route index".  Usually it is associated with
an office code.  Other tables are then used to identify the actual
line based on telephone number.

> Now here is where the fact that I'm calling my ISP comes into play. My
> ISP gets a T1, lets say. The switch then hunts for a TDM slot on the
> trunk for the call, right? And it uses robbed bit signaling (unless
> ISDN, when it uses Q.931 ...).

> Question #2. (Ok, more like question number 800 ...) Does the single
> bit for signaling represent the presence/absence of the old-fashioned
> 2600Hz tone? The way I see it working is the ISP RA box sees the
> signal bit on the incoming DS0, and knows to pick up the phone
> (equivilent of a ring). But how does off-hook get signaled?

   If you mean off-hook from the ISP end, it has its own signaling
bit(s).  Digital facilities have two independent directions of
transmission and signaling.  (2600Hz only worked for one-way trunks).
For digital trunks, the ISP would recognize a particular A/B bit
pattern as "alerting to you" and the ISP would signal the switch with
an A/B bit pattern that means "I'm ready for the call".  The patterns
will differ depending on call direction and the particular type of
interface.

> .... All the books I have read separate routing and signaling, but
> it seems to me that the two are somewhat linked since MF signaling set
> up the route at the same time the signal was propagated.

   Nope, MF signaling is used AFTER a route is selected.  Routing and
signaling can be thought of in a switchboard context.  Routing is what
the operator does in figuring out which jack to plug into.  Signaling
is what the operator does AFTER the plug is in the jack, exchanging
information with the other end of the connection.

    You ROUTE (figure out which phone to use).  You SIGNAL (off-hook,
digits).  The switch receives SIGNALs, ROUTES (picks a trunk) and
SIGNALS (sends off-hook, address, winks).  Next switch receives
SIGNALs, ROUTES (picks a trunk or terminating line) and SIGNALs (sends
off-hook or ringing, etc.).  I'm not sure how routing (selection of a
facility) can overlap with signaling (setup over a facility).

   You could look for some books by Amos Joel if you want more
information on telephone switching history, which is where most of the
current terminology originated.


Al Varney

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From: John Driscoll <jfd@prime-x.net>
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases
Date: 27 Oct 97 05:30:07 GMT


Hi Allison;

Having done this for a few companies, I can give you answers relative
to the greater Boston area. Average term is for five years on an
existing structure, longer terms if the carrier must build their own
tower. Both normally have multiple renewal options for a length equal
to the original term. Average rental value can vary widely, there is
much wheeling and dealing, but for existing structures in Boston it
ranges from $2000 to $3000 per month with annual CPI increases of no
less than 5% (for a full blown PCS/cellular site, less for 'micro-cells'). 
Where the carrier must build a tower and lease the land, it can also
vary widely, but it is generally much lower: $500 - $1500 per month
depending on location.  Government property is usually the same,
although Federal property I have not dealt with.

I would also recommend that anyone contemplating doing business with a
carrier use their own lease - the carriers lease is usually very
restrictive and can cost the property owner money. One carrier in
Boston used a lease which stated that any future tenants must be
approved by them -- which approval was generally denied for anyone they
considered a competitor!

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:20:44 -0800
From: Marty Bose <martyb@dnai.com>
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases


I'm disappointed to see TELECOM Digest publishing a troll request like
this one.  When I worked for a PCS carrier this was a typical request
from a lawyer trying to find a way for his client to bust a lease that
the owner had second thoughts about.  On the average they would come
back and request a new lease at four to ten times the original lease,
usually after construction had started.

I hope that no one will respond to this, as this guy may go to work
for one of your clients next!


Marty Bose

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:09:00 -0500
From: Bob Keller <rjk@telcomlaw.com>
Subject: NiCad Memory Effect (was: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far)


In TELECOM Digest V17 #284, Brett Frankenberger <brettf@netcom.com>
wrote:

> This is a very common, and very unsubstantiated, urban legend.  
> Under carefully controlled laboratory conditions, where you 
> repeatedly partially dischange the cells to the *same level* 
> each time, you can sometimes get a memory effect to appear, 
> after a lot of cycles. Under normal random usage, in which you 
> never fully discharge the batteries, but always discharge to a 
> different level, the memory effect does not appear.

I would not go so far as to put "memory effect" in the urban legend
category; it is something I have personally experienced under
decidedly uncontrolled, non-laboratory conditions. Having said that, I
have found that the compulsive need to "fully discharge" batteries
actually causes more frequent and severe problems than the potential
memory effect it is intended to prevent. Some users seek to discharge
the pack to levels even lower than the point where the host device
stops working properly. If you do that, one or more of the cells in
the pack can actually reverse polarity. If the overall pack reverses
polarity you are really in a fix.  Not only is the pack virtually
useless at that point, it can damage equipment to which it is attached
(depending on the nature of the equipment). That is one of the reasons
why:

> (Also, most newer phones won't fully discharge the cells, prefering
> instead to shut themselves off when the voltage drops below a certain
> level.)


Bob Keller (KY3R)
rjk@telcomlaw.com
www.his.com/~rjk/

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From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (Lee Winson)
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification
Date: 27 Oct 1997 01:37:11 GMT
Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS


Calculating local and near-local calling costs must be tough,
especially when considering competitive carriers, in regards to the
posting.

First off, as I see it, in the Phila area you have at least three
classes of calls:

   Purely local: In the "measured use" table, this are those marked 1
unit.  The main thing is these calls cheap and also UNTIMED.  If you
are routing calls through an alternative carrier who times you, you
could potentially pay more -- depending on your call mix.  (If you
make a lot of quick brief calls, this could not apply.)

  Measured Service: These are those within the "Metropolitan
Philadelphia Calling Area", which is the City of Philadelphia and
nearby suburbs.  The phone book has a map and list of towns/exchanges.

  For these calls, you have to balance your carrier against the
Measured Service table.  Timings vary by distance and time of day.
For high volume users, you'd probably need to do a computer analysis,
figuring every single call by Bell's rates and the competition's
rates.  The differences are cents, but at high volume it adds up.

  In the old days, some businesses would have foreign exchange lines
so their customers could call them for free and likewise.  Generally,
a suburban location would have a city number.  Plenty of businesses
still do this

  Toll service: If the call goes beyond the "Metro Phila Calling
Area", it's toll.

  Does anyone know if Bell Atlantic offers business customers deals on
measured service or toll?  Residential customers, for a steep price
($40-50 per month) can get unlimited Metro area calling.

------------------------------

From: Marty Tennant <marty@sccoast.net>
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:35:47 -0500


> At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code
> 610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment.  I did; it works
> just like (700) 555-4141.

> I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else?

I tried dialing only 700-4141.  No go, "your long distance carrier
cannot complete your call as dialed".  I then tried 1-803-700-4141,
since I am in NPA 803.  It worked, but said "thank you for using GTE".
GTE is not my intralata carrier, but they are my local exchange
carrier.  I don't get bills from them anymore for intralata, but they
tried to bill me once for a call that was also billed by my real
intralata carrier.  Never could figure that one out.

Anyone else with intralata presubscription out there with anything to
report on this new verification code?


marty tennant - president - low tech designs, inc.(tm)
"Bringing Technology Down to Earth"(sm)
1204 Saville St., Georgetown, SC 29440
803 527-4485 voice / 803 527-7783 fax

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 06:48:42 -0500
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This?


In article <telecom17.291.2@telecom-digest.org>, ravip@utdallas.edu
(Ravi Prakash) writes:

> My question is: Is Southwestern Bell within its rights to disconnect
> the telephone? After all, he provided them will all the identification
> information they requested. Isn't it their responsibility to verify
> the information? Moreover, he has never defaulted on any bill
> payments.

Questions such as this should be directed to the state Public
Service/Utility Commission which regulates such matters.  The staff
can advise the customer how far the company's permitted to go and
intervene if it's gone too far.


Bruce Wilson

------------------------------

From: raphael@willy.cs.mcgill.ca (Louis Raphael)
Subject: Re: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This?
Date: 28 Oct 1997 05:22:50 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre


Ravi Prakash (ravip@utdallas.edu) wrote:

> My friend has applied for his social security number. But, the card
> hasn't arrived yet. Moreover, since getting the telephone connection,
> he has been regularly paying all the telephone bills.

Aren't SS#s supposed to be for tax purposes, and *not* for this kind
of stuff? My guess would be that they've got absolutely no business
asking for this kind of information.

> My question is: Is Southwestern Bell within its rights to disconnect
> the telephone? After all, he provided them will all the identification
> information they requested. Isn't it their responsibility to verify
> the information? Moreover, he has never defaulted on any bill
> payments.

The way things are done here is that if you aren't considered
"trustworthy," you can be made to make a deposit as a guarantee that
you'll pay your phone bill.

I would assume that the telco is *not* within its rights to deny
service so easily, as a regulated utility. I suggest that your friend
check with the Texas PUC for an answer.

BTW, I take it that telco isn't also his LD provider -- and that's
probably the only place that they can really take a significant loss.
Possibly, they'd be reasonable and accept a small deposit as security,
but somehow I doubt it ...


Louis

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:50:41 -0600
From: Jason Forst <forst_NO_@us.ad_SPAM_vantis.com>
Reply-To: forst_NO_@us.ad_SPAM_vantis.com
Subject: Re: Phone Problems in Nebraska?


TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

> I needed to call someone in the Omaha, Nebraska area (actually west of
> Omaha about forty miles) on Sunday and after several attempts to get
> through and getting only busy signals, fast busies or nothing at all I
> found out that phone service was at a crawl in that area due to a very
> massive storm Saturday. Apparently two or three feet of snow, some
> extremely high winds and other conditions knocked out a lot of
> circuits. Does anyone have an update? I guess this condition was all
> over that area with Colorado also affected quite heavily.

Pat, I grew up in OMA, and talked to a close friend there on Sunday
morning. They had about 12-16 inches of very wet and heavy snow, and
since the trees had not yet lost their leaves (very little turn in
color, in fact) the trees suffered very heavy loading, causing very
large power outages as the trees collapsed. My freind had been without
power for awhile, and was surprised that the telephone was
working. The inter-office plant in the area used to mainly be on
arials, but that was a number of years ago (ten).

I also have relatives in the Des Moines area, one had phone service,
the other, in a small town about ten miles west, did not. The number
out of service was busy always. This is the same as an earlier
confirmed outage, where USwest actually remote forwarded the
residential line to a business so that calls could be completed for
the residential customer.  This went on for a few days.

Anyway, most probably weather related.


jason

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 06:48:44 -0500
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Phone Problems in Nebraska?


In article <telecom17.291.11@telecom-digest.org>, ptownson@massis.lcs.
mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) writes:

> I needed to call someone in the Omaha, Nebraska area (actually west of
> Omaha about forty miles) on Sunday and after several attempts to get
> through and getting only busy signals, fast busies or nothing at all I
> found out that phone service was at a crawl in that area due to a very
> massive storm Saturday. Apparently two or three feet of snow, some
> extremely high winds and other conditions knocked out a lot of
> circuits. Does anyone have an update? I guess this condition was all
> over that area with Colorado also affected quite heavily.

Des Moines got about 6" of VERY WET snow, with areas to the south of
it getting as much as 10" of the stuff.  With the trees still full of
leaves, trees were snapping and falling all over the place, often
taking utility lines with them.  (We were without power for about 11
hours; and some areas of town won't have service restored until
sometime Monday.)  Reports are that some areas of Colorado got
something on the order of 4 FEET of the stuff; and it seemed something
like 80% of utility customers in Omaha-Council Bluffs were without
power at one time.  The only positive aspect of the situation is that
daytime highs are to start in the 40s and move up to the 50s by the
end of the coming week, so we'll have the snow out of the way while
we're cleaning up the mess.


Bruce Wilson

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 06:38:21 GMT
From: gashley@uswest.com (Greg C. Ashley)
Subject: Re: Phone Problems in Nebraska?


Pat, things are pretty bad here in Omaha.  I think we've got as much
damage (or more) than was caused by our famous May, 1975 tornado.
Hopefully we'll get on top of it fairly quickly.


Greg C. Ashley       gashley@uswest.com
Mass Markets & Design Services Analyst  NE/IA
US WEST Communications, Inc.  Omaha, Nebraska

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 28 Oct 97 09:26:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 294

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Linc Madison)
    Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Chris Farrar)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Dave Stott)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Rich Greenberg)
    Re: Report: Net Telephony Potential Drain For Telcoms (Tony Pelliccio)
    Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Barry F. Margolius)
    Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Dave Close)
    Re: Need Help Asynchronous and BISYNC (Toby Stidham)
    Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Rich Courtney)
    Employment Opportunity: ACD Manager Needed (unicomp@onramp.net)
    Quick Question Regarding a Recent Post (Bob Collie)
    More on Compuserve Spam (Mike Pollock)
    Re: Help! Interface Error With ZyXel U-1496 (Doug Rorem) 
    Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today (Linc Madison)

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From: Telecom@LincMad.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:47:28 -0800
Organization: LincMad Consulting; change NOSPAM to COM


In article <telecom17.291.3@telecom-digest.org>, Jeff Smith
<smasher@idirect.com> wrote:

> Bell Canada is set to annouce 4 new area codes for the GTA.  (New
> Metro Toronto).

> 1.  Durham Region         - will move to a new area code

> 2.  Peel & Halton         - will move to a new area code
> (these regions will share area code until split is needed)

> 3. York                   - will retain the current 905 area code
>  - the rest of 905 not in the GTA will move to a new area code.

> 4. (new)  Toronto         - will either get an overlay or a split of
> the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a
> seperate area code.

> By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities.
> Namely:        1. City of Toronto
>                2. City of Durham
>                3. City of Peel
>                4. City of York
>                5. City of Halton
> 
> People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the
> regions ready now!

This is almost certainly incorrect.  First of all, there is no "City
of Durham" in Toronto.  Durham, Ontario, is a town north of Kitchener,
in the 519 area code.  "Metro Toronto" consists of the City of Toronto,
York, East York, North York, Etobicoke, and Scarborough.  Those six
cities currently share area code 416.  The same six cities are being
proposed for merger into "Megacity Toronto."

More importantly, York is not currently in 905, so it is absolutely
NOT going to be moved into 905 to the exclusion of all current 905
communities.  No way, no how.  York is currently in 416.

Lastly, there is no way that Bell Canada could possibly get NANPA
approval for four new area codes at once for the Toronto region,
especially if you are talking (as you appear to be) only about the
area that is currently in 416.

Relief proposals for 416 have focused along two principal alternatives:
(A) geographic split, probably along Yonge Street
(B) all-services overlay of 416


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From: Chris Farrar <cfarrar@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:08:16 -0500
Organization: Sympatico
Reply-To: cfarrar@sympatico.ca


Jeff Smith wrote:

> 4. (new)  Toronto         - will either get an overlay or a split of
> the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a
> seperate area code.

The {Toronto Star} announced some time ago that the new (second) area
code for Toronto will be in the form of an overlay.

> By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities.
> Namely:        1. City of Toronto
>                2. City of Durham
>                3. City of Peel
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
Hazel McAllion of Mississauga isn't going to like that, unless of
course, she gets to be mayor of it.
                        
>                4. City of York
>                5. City of Halton

> People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the
> regions ready now!


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    VE3CFX    |    fax +1-905-457-8236    |  national resource
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:48:24 -0500
From: Dave Stott <dstott@2help.com>
Subject: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification


In TELECOM Digest #291, Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant) wrote:

> At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code
> 610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment.  I did; it works
> just like (700) 555-4141.

> I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else?

Yes; it's the number U S WEST, other RBOCs, and most IXCs agreed upon
in the early days of inTRA-LATA toll pre-subscription (Jan. 1996). (Early 
at least for the RBOCs).

When dialed in AZ, AT&T says "Thank you for choosing AT&T for your
local toll calling."  U S WEST says "Thank you for choosing U S WEST
as your local long distance company."  Not sure how the others
describe the service.


Dave Stott

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From: richgr@netcom.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification
Organization: Organized?  Me?
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:53:40 GMT


In article <telecom17.291.6@telecom-digest.org>, Bill Levant
<Wlevant@aol.com> wrote:

> At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code
> 610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment.  I did; it works
> just like (700) 555-4141.

> I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else?

Doesn't work here in BellSouth 770 land.


Rich Greenberg    Work:  Rich.Greenberg@Worldspan.ibmmail.com 770-563-6656
N6LRT   Marietta, GA, USA   Play: richgr@netcom.com           770-321-6507
Eastern time.    I speak for myself & my dogs only.        VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val(Chinook,CGC,TT),Red(Husky,(RIP)),Shasta(Husky,TT) Owner:Chinook-L

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From: tonypo@ultranet.com (Tony Pelliccio)
Subject: Re: Report: Net Telephony Potential Drain For Telcoms
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:24:44 -0500
Organization: The Cesspool


In article <telecom17.291.9@telecom-digest.org>, Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.
com says:

>  From INTERNET DAILY:

> The Internet could cost telephone companies as much as $8 billion over
> the next four years as consumers turn to the Net for voice and fax
> services, Bloomberg news reported. A Falls Church, Va.-based
> consulting firm. Action Information Services, issued a report saying
> the lower costs of the Net will also prompt phone companies to lower
> their prices.  The report said international long distance companies
> will be hit the most, perhaps amounting to as much as 4.5 percent of
> the total revenues from telephone business between countries by the
> year 2001, the Bloomberg report said.

Personally I'd love to see the carriers lose $8 billion but I doubt 
it'll be that high. Why? Who owns the local loops that folks use to 
connect to the internet, and who provides a certain leg of the connection 
to an ISP's POP? 

But for me, until voice over the net increases in sound quality I'll
be using what I currently use. If I want to hear sideband I can get on
the amateur radio bands and listen to it there.


Tony

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From: bfm@pobox.com (Barry F Margolius)
Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:59:59 GMT
Organization: INTERNET AMERICA


I don't know much more than you, but I did use the service for
several months, and here are my educated guesses as to how it works.

The pager transmits an acknowledge message whenever it receives a
page.  This means that under "Full Service", messages are acknowledged
with some kind of checksum and either dropped or resent by Skytel
depending on whether the checksum is correct.

When in "Basic Service", the pager receives but is unable to
acknowledge.  The pager is aware of this, so there must be some sort
of "acknowledge the acknowledgement" sent from Skytel.  Living in NYC,
I rarely found myself in Basic Service mode.  Since Skytel central
thinks you are offline, it retransmits the pages later when you are in
Full Service mode.  The pager uses page ID and checksum to decide how
to process these resent messages.

In "Storing Messages" mode, nothing reaches the pager.  I believe that
Skytel central cannot differientate between Basic and Storing mode.
Based upon a few tests, I think the pager rarely or never sends an
"I'm here" message.  It switches from Storing Messages to Full Service
only when you are in a Full Service area _and_ you receive a new page.
Thus when somebody pages me at noon, and I'm in the subway, the page
is held for me by Skytel.  But, if nobody pages me until 3pm, I don't
get my noon page until 3pm, even if I'm above ground all day after
12:10.  This can be circumvented by turning the pager off and then on;
I think that causes an "I'm here" message in order to determine what
mode the pager should start up.

Even so, I liked the service, but I eventually cancelled because I
hate the acutal pager that they were using.  It's quite big, bulky,
and harder to read than my advisor gold.

-barry

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From: dave@compata.compata.com (Dave Close)
Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work?
Date: 25 Oct 1997 20:50:19 -0700
Organization: Compata, Costa Mesa, California


mark_brukhartz@il.us.swissbank.com (Mark Brukhartz) writes:

> Reliable paging (with acknowledgement and retransmission) is a great
> service. Consumers will hear more about it as the 1900 MHz PCS phone
> systems come online.

Maybe so. But my experience with PacBell's PCS service is that they
mean something different by "paging" than I mean. They mean that the
system will ring your phone if it was off or out of range when some
one left you voice mail. There is currently no way for someone to
send me a page independent of leaving me a voice message.


Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA  "Politics is the business of getting
dave@compata.com, +1 714 434 7359    power and privilege without
dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu           possessing merit." - P. J. O'Rourke

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From: DISA5@Dhahran-emh3.army.mil (Toby Stidham)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:18:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Help Asynchronous and BISYNC


I just wanted to put a real world application to this:

In the Military, AN/FCC-100's LSTDM's are used to mux and demux low
speed data users.  When we had a requirement for a new low speed user,
it was necesary to calculate how much bandwidth was being used on the
aggregate to make sure the new circuit could be accomodated.  Async
circuits took up 4 x as much bandwidth on the aggregate as their
syncronous counterparts (due to syncronous conversion before
multiplexing).  If one didn't take this into account when figuring the
total bandwidth being used, that person could knock down the whole
trunk if the bandwidth wasn't available for his new circuit, killing
all the other traffic on the FCC-100 (damn things were built by the
Army, they'd do some freaky stuff sometimes ;-) )

FCC-100 aggregate  = 9600 bps sync
port 1             = 4800 bps sync
port 2             = 1200 bps sync
port 3             =  300 bps async
port 4             =  300 bps async
Aggregate Overhead =  800-900 bps (cant remember the exact figure)

New Circuit        = 1200 bps sync

The aggregate wouldn't be able to accomodate the new circuit since the   
300 async's take up 1200 bps worth of aggregate bandwidth (300 x 4).

The 4 x Data Rate was a given for us.


Toby Stidham
Government Systems Inc.
http://www.gsinet.com/home.htm

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From: Rich Courtney <rocourtney@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Date: 28 Oct 1997 02:44:09 GMT
Organization: Norand Corporation


I think California is prohibited from sending CID.  It is due to
privacy issues.

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From: unicomp@onramp.net
Subject: Employment Opportunity: ACD Manager Needed
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:22:37 -0500
Organization: OnRamp Technologies, Inc.; ISP
Reply-To: unicomp@onramp.net


I am looking for an individual with some experience in managing ACD
systems, administration of TotalRecall/Crystal Reports and and some
basic telephony experience. The position is in Dallas. 
If anyone interested, please contact:

Akhil
Tel :972-315-1699
unicompusa@onramp.net

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:01:12 +0600
From: Bob Collie <bob.collie@telalink.net>
Subject: Quick Question Regarding a Recent Post


I have searched the archives, but am convinced that I do not know the
right keywords to put in to find what I'm looking for.  There was a
URL posted recently that pointed to a reference for the 5ess switches,
configuration, maintenance, description, et al that I tried to
re-visit, and could not.  Do you, perhaps, know of that URL?


Bob Collie, VP/CTO, Telalink Corporation
mailto:bob.collie@telalink.net

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:48:13 -0500
From: Mike Pollock <Pheel@compuserve.com>
Subject: More on CompuServe Spam


Here's some CompuServe Spam. As you can see, instuctions on how
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From: rorem@mana.eecs.uic.edu (Doug Rorem)
Subject: Re: Help! Interface Error With ZyXEL U-1496
Date: 26 Oct 1997 01:22:21 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago


Alick Sadekov (sadekov@cell.ru) wrote:

> If you know "ZyXEL U-1496E Plus" with microprogramm 6.13R here is a
> problem.  I have 2 wire leased line and I need to connect two DTE
> which have the next signals on their pins (see below). May be some of
> you know what AT commands do I have to load in order to make it work.
> DTE has V.24 interface, speed 2400 using noninverted bit stream. Using
> default profiles (for 2 wire LL), test of DTE tells me that I have
> interface error.  Or may be it does not work at all?

> DTE SIDE         MODEM SIDE
> SDL (ST7I)        25-PIN MALE CONNECTOR (MODEM)
> RXD   -----------  3   Recieved Data
> DSR   -----------  6   Data Set Ready
> RTS    ----------  4   Reqest to send
> RL      ---------- 21   Remote Loop request
> SF      ---------- 11   Select frequency
> RATE ----------    23   Data rate selector
> GND   ----------   7   Signal ground
> CTS    ----------  5   Clear To Send
> DTR   ---------- 20   Data terminal ready
> NC                24   Not Connected
> TXC   ---------- 15   Transmitter Timing
> RXC  ----------- 17   Reciever Timing
> TXD  -----------  2   Transmitted Data
> LL      ----------- 18   Local Loop request
> DCD  -----------  8   Data Carrier Detected
> GND                   Signal ground
> GND                   Signal ground
> GND                   Signal ground
> GND  -----------  7  Signal ground
> TM     ----------- 25   Loop ready
> NC                 22   Not Connected

Alick,

Make sure when you do an AT&V0 (to get the current profile) that the
modem is set with

&L1   (for 2 wire leased line)
&N0   (for auto speed negotiation)
&K0   (for no error correction)

Also one modem should be set for
*M0   (the one that will originate)

The other should be set for
*M1   (to answer)

Then, to connect type ATA on the one that's set to answer and ATD
on the one set for originate.


Doug Rorem
University of Illinois at Chicago         (312)-996-5439  [voice]
EECS Department  RM 1120                  (312)-413-1065  [fax]
851 S. Morgan Street                      (312)-232-4375  [pager]
Chicago, IL 60607-7053                    rorem@uic.edu

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:55:27 -0700
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom17.288.8@telecom-digest.org>, ccremer@fc.net (Charles
Cremer) wrote:

> The Yukon and [Northwest] Territories of Canada now has area code 867.
> Formerly, the region shared an area code with Alberta.  Old Code:
> 403/819 New Code: 867 Type of Relief: Split Effective Date: 10/21/97
> Permissive Dialing End Date: 4/26/98

> Test Number(s): 867-669-5448 

Actually, the western portion (all of Yukon and the western NWT)
shared 403 with Alberta.  The eastern portion (around Hudson Bay,
Baffin Island, etc.) shared area code 819 with central and northern
Quebec.  (819 still serves a large territory, stretching from the
VT/NH/ME border, Sherbrooke, Drummondville, Trois-Rivieres, and Hull,
and up the coast of James Bay, Hudson Bay, and Hudson Strait, to the
northern portion of the border with Labrador.)  The new 867 area code
will also include the new Nunavut Territory, which is planned to be
carved out of the current NWT in 1998 or 1999.

Because of a prefix conflict, 819-979 (Iqaluit, formerly Frobisher
Bay, on Baffin Island) will get 867-979, but 403-979 (Inuvik, near the
northern reach of the Yukon/NWT border) will change to 867-777.

Further details are available at my website, http://www.lincmad.com


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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 28 Oct 97 21:19:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 295

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Ringdowns and Other Non-Dialable Toll-Points (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Telecommunications Manager (TCM) Definition (Robert J. Perillo)
    Addendum: Psychic Spammer (of June, 97) (Michael Maxfield)
    Routing in the Northwest (206/425/253) (Michael Gutteridge)
    House Panel Questions FBI Implementation of Wiretap Law (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (smasher@idirect.com)
    Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Chris Farrar)
    Re: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic (Jay R. Ashworth)

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:48:35 -0600
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Ringdowns and Other Non-Dialable Toll-Points


John David Galt wrote:

> Quoth Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>:

>> Similarly, there are still numerous remote/rural areas (hunting/fishing
>> lodges, ranches, isolated villages, ranger stations, etc) all over the
>> NANP area (US, Canada, much of the Caribbean) which can only be
>> reached by operators of the telcos/carriers mentioned in the first
>> paragraph. If you are trying to reach such a 'ring-down' point in your
>> LATA (or when calling from within Canada), you call your 'traditional'
>> LEC local/toll opearator with a single '0'. If the 'ringdown' location
>> is outside of your LATA when calling from the US, you can only use
>> the AT&T operator, (10[10]288)-0('#'/0); or use 800-CALL-ATT /
>> 800-3210-ATT and then cut-thru to the operator. Such calls to
>> 'ringdown' points are billed at AT&T/LEC Operator _HANDLED_ rates!

> Here's something I've wondered about for awhile: why not allow
> customers to dial these points themselves (using the 88x pseudo-NPAs)?

> (This would ring the same manual operator point it does now, but would
> bypass the earlier operator step used now.  Billing would work as if
> it's an automatic exchange.)  Is there some technical reason this
> can't be done, or is it the way it is because the union wants to
> preserve needless jobs?

> [TELECOM Editor's Note: You may be correct about the union. One case
> I remember from several years ago involved a little town in northern
> Minnesota. The name Grand Portage comes to mind. It was listed as an
> operator handled call, with the operator to dial 218 plus 446(?) plus
> four-D. In other words, the operator could dial the number but the
> public presumably could not. As an experiment I tried dialing direct
> 218-446-number and got through just fine.   PAT]

There are some of these locations which _do_ have _non-published_
'standard' 7/10-digit NANP numbers of the geographic NPA and the
'closest' (although it could be _miles/kilometers_ away) NXX
central-office code and switch. This is the number that the operator
would actually dial, but bill the call at _operator-handled_ rates.

Due to the distances involved from the serving central office and/or
terrain involved in providing the loop to the switch, telco might have
been able to have such locations tariffed as such. The customer with the
'non-customer-dialable' service also doesn't know their non-published
number, and their phones might even be designed to always reach the
local telco operator to place outgoing calls (instead of a dialtone),
billed at operator handled rates.

I don't know how many areas still have the following type of "loop
band/distance" monthly charges (I think that some remote parts of
Yukon or NWT have such), but I remember seeing something like this in
the Louisiana tariffs some years back. Even though the central office
provided dial service, if a customer lived more than so many miles
away from their serving central office, they were tariffed in the
'outer' band, and paid a higher monthly charge than those who lived
within the 'limit'. This was quite common in rural areas, where a c/o
switch served large sprawling geographic territory, and loops were
long, and frequently crossed difficult terrain.

So, telco feels that they should be able to keep some remote areas
reachable only by the operator at higher rates, since the traffic
volume to/from such locations is considered low, and the higher rates
help keep the monthly costs to the customer with such service within
'reasonable' levels, so that they can have _some_ form of connection
with the 'outside world' in case of an emergency.

Many non-dialable points might still be just that - not even operator
'dialable'. The far-end operator might have to actually 'manually-ring'
the desired customer. Loops might still be open-wire, ground-return, or
radio channel. Some of these ringdown or non-dialable locations might
even really be a 'two-way radio patch' type of service.

As for customers _dialing_ the 88x pseudo-NPA's ... these 88x codes are
strictly used for billing and rating purposes. For such locations which
can actually be dialed by the operator using a non-pub number, remember
that the non-pub number is a 'regular' _geographic_ NPA-NXX-xxxx number.
But for billing and rating identification purposes, the 88X-XXX code has
its own V&H co-ordinates, pointing to the particular location.

Even if customers could dial the 88X, some of these non-customer-dialable 
locations have their next three digits (after the 88X) as 0XX or 1XX,
not just NXX. The billing/rating number could be something like
889-002-1234. Most switches aren't able to handle a customer dialing a
0XX or 1XX code in the central-office-code portion of a ten-digit NANP
number.

When the toll-free 800 special area code was in danger of exhausting its
number supply a few years back prior to introducing 888, there were some
proposals to introduce "c/o" codes of the form 0XX and 1XX within
toll-free 800, since dialing to 800 (and 888, 900, 500, 700, etc)
numbers _always_ requires the _full_ ten-digits. There are also no
RAO/CIID type calling cards which begin 800-0XX or 800-1XX, so there
would not have been any other numbering conflict. And special 800
routings don't use Kp+800+0XX/1XX+(etc)+St, neither. But it was
determined that some switches in use in the NANP wouldn't have been able
to be easily adapted to allow customers to dial a '0' or '1' in the
'D-digit-position'. It was also determined that some people might
mis-dial by leaving off the required 800 or 1-800. There would be too
many misdials - many reaching an operator, or causing some other strange
routing/translation due to the misdial.

As for the 88x-Xxx codes to identify ringdowns or non-customer-dialable
ratecenters, _THAT_ has been an issue tossed around by the industry
forums. The billing-related forums wants NANPA to continue to have 88X
grandfathered in as 'psuedo' NPAs for billing purposes _only_. However,
the numbering-related forums have decided that dialable numbering
resources are _not_ to be used for non-dialable or billing-only
purposes.

It _might_ be possible that the 88x-Xxx billing codes are going to be
changed over to 08x-Xxx or 18x-Xxx. However, this might cause a problem,
too, since RAO codes are still of the format 0XX through 5XX. But RAO
codes might be considered an anachronism in today's telephone
environment, except for calling-card numbers based on the RAO code. (But
for that matter, non-dialable points themseleves are an anachronism!)

Similarly, it has been proposed that NANP billing identification for
calling to Mexico be changed from 52X to 05X. (521 through 529, since
Mexico's city-codes only begin with '1' through '9', and not '0'; 520 is
a valid geographic NPA for most of Arizona, anyhow). Mexico is _NOT_
part of the NANP, and probably won't be ... Mexico's own internal
numbering is supposed to be expanding from eight to ten significant
digits sometime next year, anyhow.

But it _is_ always amazing that old, obsolete, and forgotten services
still are in existance to some extent, or that old practices still apply
today even if the service has been completely discontinued.


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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Does anyone around here remember the radio
operator based in Alma, Quebec who handled all the traffic around the
far northern fringes of that province until at least some time in the
1970's?  A couple hundred miles north of Quebec City on provincial high-
way 169, her duties were to maintain communication with such northern
outposts as Inukjuak, Salvit and Deception, Quebec.

If your long distance operator checked with Rate and Route for Inukjuak
for example, the routing was given as 'International Operator 419' and
when dialing into that, the responding operator announced herself as
'Montreal Toll Center'. When your operator then asked for Inukjuak the
Montreal operator (who had initially responded speaking French but had
switched to English when she detirmined it was a call from the USA) 
would say that she would make a connection to 'Alma Radio' who would
assist further. The Alma operator would answer in French and likewise
switch to English with a *very* French accent. She always seemed to be
quite amazed that someone from Chicago was calling. "Just a minute," she
would say, "I will see if I can raise them." She would then key her
microphone and repeat several times with a pause of a few seconds
after each call, "Alma is calling Inukjuak on Channel 1". During her
pause you would hear a great deal of static. After a minute or so of
no response she would switch to Channel 2 and repeat her call several
times. She would alternate her calls in English and French. 

After a couple minutes of this calling, alternating between channels
in English and French with much static and hissing on the line as she
waited for an answer she would finally say to the Chicago operator, 
"Oh, madamoiselle, I am so sorry but Inukjuack is not responding. They
only promised us they would listen to the radio between 11 AM and Noon
each day, and sometimes I talk to them about seven in the evening 
also. Shall I try for you later and call you when they respond?"

The Chicago operators were amazed that such a system existed. I asked
Alma the distance being covered and the type of radio communication.
She said it was AM (amplitude modulation) single sideband, and she 
ventured a guess that the point we were calling was 'several hundred
miles north'. The other main radio station covering northern Quebec
was located a bit to the west in the town of Val D'or, which operated
in essentially the same way.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 13:44 EST
From: Perillo@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Robert J. Perillo)
Subject: Telecommunications Manager (TCM) Definition


    I have been told that the new edition, 13th, of Harry Newton's,
"Newton's Telecom Dictionary", the standard telecommunications
dictionary/glossary will be available in bookstores this November.
One problem that I have found with the current dictionary is that it
is missing an acronym listing or definition for the common term
'TCM'. This is strange, because Newton's publications are aimed at the
TCM, and his people constantly use that acronym? Attached is a
definition, in mini-essay form as is common for the dictionary.


                         ------------------

Telecommunications Manager (TCM)

     The TCM is the manager or the manager of the department that
Plans, Controls, and Administers the telephony and telecommunications
assets of the company. And ensures that the telephone and
telecommunications systems are well-run and functioning
smoothly. These assets may include the PBX, ISDN, T-1's, local and
long distance telephone lines, telephone sets, authorization codes,
cable pairs, WAN's, Fax machines, voice mail systems, automated
attendants, interactive voice response systems, automatic call
distribution, multiplexors, modem pools, etc. .  The internal data
facilities such as LAN's and routers may be under the administration
of the TCM, or could be the responsibility of the Management
Information Systems (MIS) department. But since the TCM has
responsibility for both the inside wiring and the outside Carrier
facilities, close coordination would be required if the internal data
facilities are controlled by the MIS department.

TCM Functions

     Before the Bell System divestiture, pre-1984, there were no
choices and one stop shopping for telephone and telecommunications
services. The telecommunications management was simple then, and in
most cases relegated to the accounting or administration
departments. With the advent of Other Common Carriers (OCC's) and
Competitive Access Providers (CAP's), competition, and choices to save
business money on their telephone and telecommunications costs, came
management and administration responsibilities that require special
skills and full time administration.

     In addition, corporate demands for a more flexible phone system
requires the TCM to have knowledge of product interoperability, new
protocols, data networking, and computer telephony standards.

     The following are the functions of the TCM;

     + Operating, administering, monitoring, and maintaining the
       existing telecommunications systems.
     
     + Dealing with the various vendors and providers, including
       verifying and paying the bills.
       
     + Preparing and managing the Telecommunications budget.
       
     + Keeping abreast of changes in technology, services,
       industry structure, and rates.
       
     + Assisting company management in developing a corporate
       telecommunications policy that meets business objectives.
       
     + Developing and implementing company telephone and
       telecommunications procedures for efficient and cost
       effective use, and training company employees in these
       procedures.
       
     + Upgrading, procurement, selecting, contracting, or purchasing
       a system, new system, equipment, or services.
       
     + Planning and analyzing for growth, new requirements, or
       future functionality. .
       
     
     The goal of the TCM is to provide good telecommunications services
for an organization and its employees at the lowest possible cost.


Robert J. Perillo, CCP, CNE               Perillo@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Principal Telecommunications Engineer                    Richmond, VA

------------------------------

From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael Maxfield)
Subject: Addendum: Psychic Spammer (of June, 97)
Organization: Our Lady of Perpetual Freedom
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:23:20 GMT


Anyone else scammed by this slime?

Better late than never, but today I was going over the last three
bills I have for one of my phone lines, and found a recuring charge
for $46.30 billed by the long distance company USP&C.  ($44.95 plus
$1.35 taxes)

The bill was itemized something like:

	======================================
	Sept 28, 1997
	USP&C

	Total Current Charges		$46.30
	TAX	Fed: 1.35		$1.35

	CALLS
	- Billed on Behalf of ASP TELECOM, INC
	- Domestic

		Aug24	Call Plus	44.95

	Total Calls			44.95
	======================================


The above appeared on my July, Aug, and Sept bill.  "Whoops!" I
remarked, for not having looked at my bills more closely sooner,
especially when I was expecting some funny business from the Psychic
Spammer.

I called USPC and inquired about the charges  (also found out that
there was a fourth which I should be seeing on my next telco bill,
being processed today) and was told that it was <some sort of
fantastic voicemail 800 service accessable from anywhere> service
which I had subscribed to.  I asked the nice lady for the name who
authorized the acceptance of this service, but she was unable to 
tell me because she was with USPC and not ASP TELECOM.  She did
however suggest that "someone" had subscribed to it by calling an
800 number from my phone.  I proceded to tell here about certain FCC
rules governing charges for calling 800 numbers, and the requirement 
for a proper agreement prior to any such billing, and I am very sure 
that no such agreement took place.

I asked that my account be credited, and she did credit it for $179.80.
(I also talked to PacBell, and told them that I will not pay for $185.20
which included the taxes.  PacBell agreed that I was correct.)  I also
asked her for the name and address of the slime charging me.  This is
what I got in response:

		ASP Telecom, Inc
		3420 Pump Road.  Suite 260
		Richmond, VA  23233

Since I'm not at home, where I have notes tacked to the wall regarding
the one call I made to any questionable 800 number, to "sample" their
wares for free, I had to use DeJaNews to gather up a secondary source
of info on this call I made, which I feel is responsible for this billing.

[the following slightly obscured to avoid any accidental spam filters]

========The BAIT====================
]
]	Subject:      ! FRXE PSXCHIC READINGS!  FRXE!!  X-XXX-XXX-8048
]	From:         lov @ interport. net
]	Date:         1997/06/18
]	Message-ID:   <5o81js$9dt$232@broadway.interport.net>
]	Organization: Interport Communications Corp.
]	Newsgroups:   alt.beer
]
]	Hear a gifted psychic speak your fortune and future
]	on 1-XXX-677-XXXX our  special samples line where you
]	can try a psychic reading free.  Don't  take the word
]	of others - see for yourself just how accurate they are.
]	 Adults over 18 only.
]	
]	Dial 1-800-XXX-XXXX
]
===============================================================

And my posting on June 25, about my call on June 25, one day AFTER 
the "Jun24 CALL PLUS 44.95" billing on my Jul 28 bill.  (Gee, they 
really must be psychic.)

===============================================================
] Subject:      Re: I called the Psychic Spammer (from a payphone...)
] From:         tweek@netcom.com-NO.SPAM- (Reverend Tweek)
] Date:         1997/06/25
] Message-ID:   <ECB72C.4wp@moraga.ness.com>
] Newsgroups:   news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
]
] Reverend Tweek <tweek@netcom.com-NO.SPAM-> wrote:
] >Jeffrey (Prime) Smith <Prime@ni.net> wrote:
] >>Today I invested some of my lunch hour and called two of the 800
] >>numbers (XXX-8048 and XXX-3733) the Psychic spammer is using from the
] >>payphone outside work.
] >
] >FCC strikes me as one place, since they ruled within the last 18 months
] >that you cannot bill for a call to an 800 number without prior agreement
] >with the caller...
]
] Well, after posting the last, and reading as the FCC wrote it, I felt
] I was safe to call from my home phone in order to sample their wares.
]
] [I have the data relevant to when I made the call, written down should
] I require it in a dispute.]
]
] June 25, 1997, 8:10 PM PDT  called (1-XXX)  XXX  8048
] The intro first "blurted" "$1.50 a <something?> billed monthly" and
] then went on to mention that this was a free sample call.  It then
] asked for a name...  and said "If your name is Keith Adright, say
] Keith Aldright"...  since this was just a sampling, I said "Keith
] Aldright".  It then gave me a personal number, which looks similar
] to an 800 number, and a personal code, a four digit PIN looking
] number... and even my own "Personal Delivery Code" so that all those
] rad chics could leave me messages.
] 
] It then went into a Psycho spiel...  telling me how I we all are spirits
] stuck in our bodies... bla bla bla...  finally, after about five
] minutes, It gave me a Main Menu from which I could make selections...
] At that point, after the only key I would dare press was the "*" key,
] it hung up on me after a while.  I suspect that any additional calls to
] that number from my phone, or the "personal number" and my PIN from any
] phone, might see an attempt at being billed by them...
] 
] HOWEVER, and unfortunately, this scam appears perfectly legal and it
] does not strike me that they are forwarding the calls to an international
] number...  but I'd bet they are logging every call, and will try to
] claim that any second call from any particular number is an agreed upon
] call.


tweek@netcom.com    tweek@io.com     |  "Well, you and I would differ on 
DoD #MCMLX       tweek@ccnet.com     |   what's ignorance and educated."
sigtst@tweekco.ness.com              |         - Senator Ernest Hollings

------------------------------

From: Michael Gutteridge <mikeg@spam.onyx.com>
Subject: Routing in the Northwest (206/425/253)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:24:39 -0800
Organization: ONYX Software Corp.
Reply-To: mikeg@spam.onyx.com


Hiya!

We're undergoing a split of the 206 area code into three areas: 206
(Seattle), 425 (Eastside and north end), and 253 (South King County). 
There is an additional layer of complexity in that they are implementing
ten and eleven digit dialing, where some exchanges accross areacodes are
dialable using solely ten digits, and some exchanges within the areacode
require the full eleven digits.

They way I understand it, this is because some calls are inter-carrier
(ie, a call from USWest territory into GTE requires the eleven digits).

Ok, that's assumption number one.  Is that correct?

Now, given that, is there some reference table where I can look up the
NPA/NXX combination and thereby determine what dialing scheme I need to
use?  I've looked at the offerings from the TRA.  I suspect the data is
buried somewhere in the LERG and/or NIPC.  I don't have enough knowledge
to extract it, and the class on interpreting the LERG isn't offered
until the day after the dialing plan goes mandatory!

In the LERG, I have a column called "EO" for the digits the end-office
requires to terminate the call.  I don't think this is any help.  I
suppose I could base it off of the OCN number (ie, if the end OCN isn't
the same as the originating OCN).  This is confused by the fact that
there are several operating companies, but it's the underlying carrier
that really determines the dialing scheme (eg, our service is from TCG,
which is actually running on USWest service).  I'm puzzled by the AT
field.  What is an "Access Tandem"?  Could this be my holy grail? ;-)

If anyone can suggest a book that describes this process, I'd be more
than happy to buy it.  Is this information part of the LERG
subscription?  I don't want to take a lot of anyone's time, but we're
going to have a huge problem with some of our software once this takes
effect.


Thanks,

Michael Gutteridge   System Administrator    ONYX Software Corp.
mikeg@spam.onyx.com      425.519.4118              www.onyx.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:08:05 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: House Panel Questions FBI Implementation of Wiretap Law
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


Excerpt from ACLU News 10-26-97

House Panel Questions FBI Implementation of Wiretap Law

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, October 23, 1997

WASHINGTON -- Amid growing concerns about privacy implications and
costs, a House subcommittee today questioned FBI implementation of a
controversial 1994 law that forced telephone companies help law
enforcement agencies gain access to digital phone lines for
surveillance operations.

During the four-hour hearing before the Crime Subcommittee of the
House Judiciary Committee, two Republicans -- Bob Barr of Georgia and
Steve Chabot of Ohio -- were harshly critical of the 1994 law, has
implemented it, saying it represents an enormous invasion of privacy
and could lead to a system of ongoing government surveillance.

Seconding those criticisms, the American Civil Liberties Union said
that safeguards originally implemented in the legislation have failed
to protect the American public. "The hearing today clearly revealed
that the FBI is embarked on a scheme to undermine the privacy of every
law-abiding American," said Donald Haines, a Legislative Counsel with
the ACLU's Washington National Office.

"From the very beginning, the FBI has flagrantly violated both the
process and the requirements set out in the legislation," Haines
added.  "The FBI has repeatedly sought to coerce the
telecommunications industry into changing its technology so that law
enforcement agencies could increase their wiretapping."

The 1994 telecommunications act is far from the only effort by the FBI
to gain backdoor access to private communications. In another ongoing
Congressional debate, the FBI is trying to impose restrictions on the
use of privacy-protecting encryption technology.

"Congress must squarely confront this persistent pattern of FBI and law
enforcement intrusions into our privacy," Haines said. "Congress should
act immediately to repeal the 1994 law, or, at an absolute minimum,
refuse to fund any implementation activities."

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:06:25 -0500
From: Alykhan <smasher@idirect.com>
Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes


Linc Madison wrote:

> In article <telecom17.291.3@telecom-digest.org>, Jeff Smith
> <smasher@idirect.com> wrote:

>> Bell Canada is set to annouce 4 new area codes for the GTA.  (New
>> Metro Toronto).

>> 1.  Durham Region         - will move to a new area code

>> 2.  Peel & Halton         - will move to a new area code
>> (these regions will share area code until split is needed)

>> 3. York                   - will retain the current 905 area code
>>  - the rest of 905 not in the GTA will move to a new area code.

>> 4. (new)  Toronto         - will either get an overlay or a split of

>> the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a
>> seperate area code.

>> By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities.
>> Namely:        1. City of Toronto
>>                2. City of Durham
>>                3. City of Peel
>>                4. City of York
>>                5. City of Halton

>> People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the
>> regions ready now!

> This is almost certainly incorrect.  First of all, there is no "City
> of Durham" in Toronto.  Durham, Ontario, is a town north of Kitchener,

> in the 519 area code.  "Metro Toronto" consists of the City of Toronto,
> York, East York, North York, Etobicoke, and Scarborough.  Those six
> cities currently share area code 416.  The same six cities are being
> proposed for merger into "Megacity Toronto."

If you read "York" refers to York Region, that will be merged into
City of York. The current city of York will be part of new Toronto Jan
1, 1998 "Durham" refers to Durham Region (which inc. Pickering etc.)

Read the top of this message Linc.   The New GTA consists of
5 (FIVE) regions namley

1. Halton Region
2. Peel Region
3. Peel Region
4. Durham Region
5. (new) Toronto

> More importantly, York is not currently in 905, so it is absolutely
> NOT going to be moved into 905 to the exclusion of all current 905
> communities.  No way, no how.  York is currently in 416.

York region is in the 905 area code.  The city of York is being merged
with the city of Toronto.

> Lastly, there is no way that Bell Canada could possibly get NANPA
> approval for four new area codes at once for the Toronto region,
> especially if you are talking (as you appear to be) only about the
> area that is currently in 416.

This is about the 905 region not 416!!!

> Relief proposals for 416 have focused along two principal
> alternatives:
> (A) geographic split, probably along Yonge Street
> (B) all-services overlay of 416

I have been told that the split will be as follows.  It will NOT
follow Yonge Street.  The current (old) City of Toronto, City of York,
and Borough of East York will remain in the current 416 area code.
Etobicoke, North York, and Scarborough will move to the new area code.

This is an attempt to keep the city core in the same area.  and create
an inner/outer area code similar to London, UK's 171, and 181 area
code.

------------------------------

From: Chris Farrar <cfarrar@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:11 -0500
Organization: Sympatico
Reply-To: cfarrar@sympatico.ca


Linc Madison wrote:

> More importantly, York is not currently in 905, so it is absolutely
> NOT going to be moved into 905 to the exclusion of all current 905
> communities.  No way, no how.  York is currently in 416.

This depends on what he is calling "York".  If he means the current
City of York, soon to be swallowed into the Megacity of Toronto, you
are correct.  If he is talking about "York Region" which is patroled
by York Regional Police, which is essentially Markham, Richmond Hill,
Vaughn (sp?), Woodbridge, ie, the rest of York County outside of
Toronto, which currently is in the 905 area, he may be correct.


 Chris Farrar |    cfarrar@sympatico.ca   |  Amateur Radio, a
    VE3CFX    |    fax +1-905-457-8236    |  national resource
 PGPkey Fingerprint = 3B 64 28 7A 8C F8 4E 71 AE E8 85 31 35 B9 44 B2

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From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic
Date: 28 Oct 1997 20:20:12 GMT
Organization: Ashworth & Associates


On Mon, 27 Oct 97 16:17 EST, Robert J. Perillo <Perillo@DOCKMASTER.
NCSC.MIL> wrote:

>     "In a letter to all customers of its wire-maintenance plans,
>     Bell Atlantic said the plans will no longer cover
>     ''malfunctions in the dial tone resulting from the use of
>     voice-grade lines to transmit or receive data or signals which
>     exceed the operating capabilities of the line.'' In effect,
>     the Bell Atlantic policy means subscribers to the optional 
>     wire-maintenance plans will not be covered for service calls 
>     that involve problems resulting from modem use on a standard
>     voice line. Of the 21 million access lines in Bell Atlantic's
>     territory, 13.2 million are residential. The company would not
>     disclose how many customers use its wire-maintenance plan. 
>     According to Bell Atlantic, ''a service charge may apply when a
>     repair person is dispatched and the problem is with the   
>     transmission or receipt of data or signals which are beyond the
>     operating capabilities of the dial-tone line.'' ".

>     "Bell Atlantic instituted the new policy because its support staff
>     can rarely solve problems on its voice-grade lines
>     that slow down or disrupt data transmissions, said John White,
>     executive director of outside plant technology and standards 
>     at Bell Atlantic.

>     The problems are especially acute with 28.8-Kbps modems, which
>     ''use more bandwidth than we've designed the network
>     to provide,'' White said. Users of 28.8-Kbps modems typically
>     do not get 28.8-Kbps performance because of the limitations
>     of Bell Atlantic's voice-grade circuits, he said. Standard
>     voice lines operate at 300 to 3,000 hertz, but a 28.8 modem
>     requires a range of 465 to 3,520 hertz, he said."

No.

By definition, consumer dialup modems are designed to fit into service
parameters _defined by the phone companies_.

The modem makers didn't pick the numbers, the telco's did.

Do we all have that?

Telco's have tried this before, and in the process, proven that they
do in fact have no clue about data: does anyone remember the RBOC which
announced that it would support data service on voice lines only up to
"9600 baud".  Inasmuch as no consumer-grade modem on the market
currently goes faster than about 3400 baud, I guess we're all set.

I'd strongly recommend that consumers in Hell Titannic's service area
melt down the phones of the Public Service Commission -- _and_ the
Attorneys General -- this is _fraud_.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                                jra@baylink.com
Member of the Technical Staff             Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued
The Suncoast Freenet      "Pedantry.  It's not just a job, it's an
Tampa Bay, Florida          adventure."  -- someone on AFU      +1 813 790 7592

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 28 Oct 97 22:02:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 296

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Ed Ellers)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (James Bellaire)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Leonid A. Broukhis)
    Re: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This? (Michael Gutteridge)
    Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Linc Madison)
    Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Matt Holdrege)
    Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Marshall A. Levin)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Dan Johnson)
    Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far (Michelle Durbin)
    Re: Slamming: Some Results (David Jensen)
    Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today (John David Galt)
    Re: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign (Lee Winson)
    Re: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign (Anthony Argyriou)
    Re: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign (Jeffrey W. Sandris)
    Re: Pac Bell High Installation Charges for "HiCap" (allword@ix.netcom.com)

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From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@iname.com>
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:33:30 -0500
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.


Bill Levant wrote:

> BTW, if you're lucky (?) enough to have BA inTRA-LATA toll, dialing
> 700-4141 gets you the dulcet tones of James Earl Jones thanking you for
> using CNN, er ... BA.  It's ALMOST worth switching to BA just for that ;-)."

Sometimes he does both at once -- Jones did the voiceovers announcing
Bell Atlantic's sponsorship of closed captioning on several CNN programs.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:26:20 -0500
From: James Bellaire <bellaire@tk.com>
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification


Marty Tennant <marty@sccoast.net> wrote:

>> At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code
>> 610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment.  I did; it works
>> just like (700) 555-4141.

>> I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else?

> I tried dialing only 700-4141.  No go, "your long distance carrier
> cannot complete your call as dialed".  I then tried 1-803-700-4141,
> since I am in NPA 803. It worked, but said "thank you for using GTE".
> GTE is not my intralata carrier, but they are my local exchange
> carrier.  I don't get bills from them anymore for intralata, but they
> tried to bill me once for a call that was also billed by my real
> intralata carrier.  Never could figure that one out.

> Anyone else with intralata presubscription out there with anything
> to report on this new verification code?

It works in 219-293 Elkhart Indiana (GTE), except that 1-219-700-4141
says 'Thank you for choosing MCI' since I picked them for Inter and
InTRA-LATA.

A call to 1-700-555-4141 returns 'Thank you for choosing LDDS Worldcom
as your long distance carrier.'  Yikes!  I've been slammed!  (I'm glad
I check occasionally.)  Maybe they grabbed my number from an NPA test
call?  My wife and I haven't signed anything or even answered a sales
call.

(Someone tried to slam my domain the other day too, sending in a fake
DNS change to InterNIC.  It's been a bad month.)

Welcome to the 90's !!!


James E. Bellaire (JEB6)                                bellaire@tk.com
Telecom Indiana Webpage    http://members.iquest.net/~bellaire/telecom/
* Note new server - old URL should still work *

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From: leob@best.com (Leonid A. Broukhis)
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification
Date: 28 Oct 1997 16:33:57 -0800


In the PacBell area (510) 700-4141 gives "You have reached the test
700 verification network" over very heavy static.


Leo

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From: Michael Gutteridge <mikeg@spam.onyx.com>
Subject: Re: Is Southwestern Bell Allowed to do This?
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:25:27 -0800
Organization: ONYX Software Corp.
Reply-To: mikeg@spam.onyx.com


I don't know about the specific legal ramifications, but to throw my
$0.02 in ...

We are setting up an office in Roswell, GA.  We are a medium sized
company with offices in all sorts of places -- not exactly a fly-by-night
outfit.

When I called BellSouth to set up service, they requested some credit
information since we had no previous account.  I'd expect this.  I
actually have a bank-info type sheet with all the relevant information
regarding our status as a corporation, bank info, tax id's,
references, etc. for just such a purpose.

Nope ... they wanted the SSN of one of our board members!  I briefly
explaned the nature and purpose of a corporation to the representative
(brick wall) to no avail.  They simply weren't going to give us the
lines without this.  We were finally able to get them to drop the SSN
requirement by putting up a $1000 deposit.

To me, this seems really goofy.  I'd be very interested in hearing what
the PUC has to say about this.  I haven't yet gotten around to writing
that letter of complaint to the people at BellSouth (and maybe the
Atlanta Chamber of Commerce, the Govenor, et al).  Unfortunately, my
favorite method of complaint (taking my business *elsewhere*) doesn't
seem to be available in the region our office is located.

Or did we just do it wrong?  We were working with a local vendor, who
seemed to regard it as "Standard Operating Procedure", so I think we
were in the proper channel.


Michael Gutteridge   System Administrator    ONYX Software Corp.
mikeg@spam.onyx.com     425.519.4118                www.onyx.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your various accounts in other locations
with 'traditional' telcos in those places should have been sufficient
to have service started at your new location; in fact, it should have
been turned on and waiting for you. It sounds like you got stuck with
a real dumbo of a service representative.   PAT]

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From: Telecom@LincMad.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:48:13 -0800
Organization: LincMad Consulting; change NOSPAM to COM


In article <telecom17.294.9@telecom-digest.org>, Rich Courtney
<rocourtney@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> I think California is prohibited from sending CID.  It is due to
> privacy issues.

No, that issue has been completely resolved in the courts.  If you dial
*67, or if you have per-line blocking, then your call will be flagged as
"private" (or "anonymous").  If you dial *82, or if you don't have
per-line blocking, your call should be sent with caller-id.

That all assumes that the originating switch is capable of sending CLID,
and that the carriers along the way correctly relay it to the other end.
If you get "no data" or "out of area," then somebody dropped the ball.


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From: holdrege@eisner.decus.org (Matt Holdrege)
Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Organization: DECUServe
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:42:00 GMT


In article <telecom17.288.9@telecom-digest.org>, Tom@Ytram.Com writes:

> We have caller ID from GTE North Indiana (219-465). Generally, we are
> getting data from most long distance callers.

> Except one: A person who calls me from Lancaster, California
> (805-949). I get a "data unavailble" when he calls. He says that their
> local telco is GTE, and that he thinks that they have GTE long
> distance.

Lancaster is out in the desert so I'm not too surprised. I don't think
there are any regulatory issues. I'm in GTE-CA and recently got calling 
name ID from someone in GTE-Hawaii.

------------------------------

From: Marshall A. Levin <levin@acunet.net>
Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:03:28 -0400
Organization: Acunet Internet Commerce
Reply-To: Marshall A. Levin <Marshall_Levin@POPULUS.net>


I'm having a similarly annoying problem here in 617.  Someone calls me
(I'm in 617 -- Boston) from Medford (until recently this was 617 --
now it is 781).  I always get "out of area" information for this call.
Just last week I got a flyer in my phone bill (from Bell Atlantic,
which just recently merged with NYNEX) which boasted that now that
NYNEX and Bell Atlantic were one company, Calling number AND name
would be delivered throughout Bell Atlantic's area (something like
Virginia to Maine).  Seems strange that I can't get this calling
number and name data from a few miles away, in what was always NYNEX
area and in what was until recently the same area code.  Anyone have
any ideas?


ML

------------------------------

From: panoptes@iquest.net (Dan Johnson)
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: 28 Oct 1997 03:11:31 GMT
Organization: IQuest Internet, Inc.


In article <telecom17.286.7@telecom-digest.org>, Christopher Herot
<herot@lotus.com> wrote:

> My theory is that the person in the seat next to you is as caught up
> in the driving experience as you are.  Any human-factors students out
> there might find it an interesting research project to see if the
> nature of the conversation is different whether the other party is in
> the car or remote on the phone.

This might be what you mean, but there is also the fact that someone
in the car with you is likely to be aware of driving situations that
call for your complete attention and shut up accordingly.  A couple
friends of mine are definite non-drivers and exceptions to this.  I've
had to block them out when they tell me to look at something off the
side of the road while driving in traffic at 40 MPH.  Once or twice,
I've had to tell them to shut up.  


Daniel W. Johnson
panoptes@iquest.net http://www.members.iquest.net/~panoptes/ 
039 53 36 N / 086 11 55 W

------------------------------

From: Michelle Durbin <mdurbin@hihello.com>
Subject: Re: New Cellular Phone Experience So Far
Date: 28 Oct 1997 17:06:59 GMT
Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content


Lisa Hancock <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in article
<telecom17.283.3@telecom-digest.org>:

> Recently I got cellular phone service.  I previously posted my experiences
> dealing with the sales people.  Now here's some notes on usage ...

>  1) How do people drive and talk?
>     For me at least, there's no way I can drive my car and talk on the 
>     phone, it's simply too distracting with traffic.  Yes, I know when we
>     drive we freely talk to the person next to us, but somehow it's
>     different on the phone.  Considering all the times I was nearly
>     hit by a distracted driver talking on the phone, I don't know how
>     people do it.

Some cell phones have a headset jack on them that would allow you to
talk hands free.  Some phones without headset jacks, such as Motorola
flip phones, have kits available to make them headset compatible.  For
info on cell phone headsets, you can check out www.hello-direct.com.

Of course, even with a headset, dialing can still be a problem, but
many phones have speed dial.

>  6) Be careful charging/recharging.  NiCad batteries the phone uses can
>     develop a memory if not fully discharged then fully charged.  They
>     suggested I leave the phone on to run down, then fully recharge it.
>     That makes sense to me, although it is a pain since it does require
>     some advance planning to allow one day to run down and one night to
>     recharge.

You don't need to worry about memory if you use a negative pulse
charger.  Memory develops when gas bubbles form on the charging plate.
Negative pulse chargers force the bubbles off of the charging plate,
restoring the battery's talk time.

Also, NiMH batteries don't develop memory the same way, although they
don't keep their charge as long as NiCd.

------------------------------

From: djensen@madison.tds.net (David Jensen)
Subject: Re: Slamming: Some Results
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:57:15 GMT
Organization: At My House
Reply-To: djensen@madison.tds.net


On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:45:45 -0500, in comp.dcom.telecom 
jim@newmediagroup.com (Jim Youll) wrote:

> GTE (my LEC), and I admit I'm surprised to say this, was the most
> helpful of any of the involved parties. While they had LOST my PIC
> restriction (which allowed this to happen) they did expedite the
> signature form to me, called today to followup, didn't call with
> pandering niceties, promised to remove the PIC-change charges, will
> recourse all LD charges back to Sprint for the slammer period, and
> flagged my account for a followup in a few weeks.

 From what I can tell, asking your LEC to recourse billing for
slamming or for AOS overcharges seems to be an excellent strategy. If
everyone who was slammed or AOSlimed asked that their bill be
recoursed, you would find that the number of bad actors would drop
dramatically. There is no way the unscrupulous will be able to
profitably collect the bills that are recoursed, especially since many
jurisdictions will not allow them to collect anything.


David Jensen

------------------------------

From: jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com (John David Galt)
Subject: Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today
Date: 28 Oct 1997 17:51:39 GMT
Organization: Sacratomato Cynics


Quoth Charles Cremer <ccremer@fc.net>:

> The Yukon and Western Territories of Canada now has area code 867.
> Formerly, the region shared an area code with Alberta.  Old Code:
> 403/819 New Code: 867 Type of Relief: Split Effective Date: 10/21/97
> Permissive Dialing End Date: 4/26/98

No one has mentioned this, but I doubt that folks _in_ the territories
have permissive dialing, because lots of prefixes in Alberta probably
conflict with those in the eastern (former 819) part of 867; and lots
of prefixes in Quebec/819 probably conflict with those in the western
part of 867.

As with the recent 916/707 realignment (Dixon, CA), permissive dialing
can exist for people dialing into the affected area from outside, but
not for people within the new 867 area: if they dial a seven-digit
number now, it will be treated as an 867 number.


John David Galt

------------------------------

From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (Lee Winson)
Subject: Re: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign
Date: 28 Oct 1997 00:09:02 GMT
Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS


> Along major roads/highways in some parts of New Orleans, I've always
> seen these yellow signs on utility poles indicating that there is
> underground wiring in the vicinity, and to please contact the utility
  [snip]
> TODAY, I noticed a much _older_ sign still attached to a utility pole.
> It had the _OLD_ (pre-1970's) Bell System logo (the one which REALLY
> LOOKED like a bell), and the following text....

There are plenty of old such signs for various utilities all over in
the Philadelphia area.  Some say to call Repair Service at 611 (Bell
Atlantic had to discontiue "611" on account of local competition--
because it was unfair and confusing to Bell to have that number
when other carriers would have full numbers.)

In downtown Philadelphia, there are a great many heavy manhole covers
with "KTCo" (Keystone Telephone Company, which was an independent
company closed after WW II), and PRT (Philadelphia Rapid Transit,
which changed its name in 1940.)

Mark, would you like me to send you a photo of an old Bell sticker?

------------------------------

From: anthony@alphageo.com (Anthony Argyriou)
Subject: Re: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:21:42 GMT
Organization: Alpha Geotechnical
Reply-To: anthony@alphageo.com


On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:31:55 -0500, Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.
tcs.tulane.edu> wrote:

> Along major roads/highways in some parts of New Orleans, I've always
> seen these yellow signs on utility poles indicating that there is
> underground wiring in the vicinity, and to please contact the utility
> company PRIOR to digging or dredging.

{more history and uselessness of numbers snipped}

In California and Nevada, there is an outfit known as USA, Underground
Service Alert.  Most utilities which have underground lines are
members of the service.  Before conducting _any_ excavating or
drilling on public property or utility easments, one is supposed to
call their 800 number, and have the areas to be dug marked.

Calling USA is required by LAW in California.  If you damage any
utility by digging or drilling without having the specific location
marked out and there is no USA call, you will be liable for _all_ 
damages.  Pacific Bell (or AT&T?) nailed a geotechnical consultant
for drilling through a cable which carried most of downtown San 
Francisco's LD calls.  Final settlement was in the $millions, for a 
4-hour interruption.

Not all utilities are members of USA, since the service is paid for by
utility company dues, and is not mandatory at the utility end.  The
dues are sometimes more than small, rural outfits can afford.
However, calling USA gets a list of utilities which will include the
local phone co, electric co, gas co, water district, sewer agency,
cable TV monopoly, several LD carriers, railroad companies (SP has
many pipelines, not all near existing track), private companies
(especially near refineries), and smaller agencies, like irrigation
districts.

There are several phone numbers for USA, depending on the age of the
sign or directory listing, but last I checked, they all still work.


Anthony Argyriou
http://www.alphageo.com

------------------------------

From: sandris@shore.net (Jeffrey William Sandris)
Subject: Re: Old Bell System "Underground Cable" Warning Sign
Date: 28 Oct 1997 14:03:52 -0400
Organization: The Alliance of Independent Burlingham Sisters


In article <telecom17.289.7@telecom-digest.org>, Mark J. Cuccia
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> wrote:

> About ten years ago, AT&T put up some of their own such signs (with
> the post-divestiture 'fried-brain' AT&T logo) 

Is this referring to the current logo (AKA "Death Star"), or did they
have a different logo immediately post-divestiture?  (I seem to
remember the "American Bell AIS" ads that AT&T used before they lost
the rights to the Bell name had the current logo, but I could be
mistaken.)


Jeffrey William Sandris  sandris@shore.net

------------------------------

From: Tommy Boy <allworld@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Pac Bell High Installation Charges for "HiCap"
Date: 28 Oct 1997 04:16:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom


Carlos,

How old is your house/neighborhood? 

Residential homes generally only have two copper "drops" to each of
them.  Makes sense from investment standpoint. Very few T1s to Joe
Consumer.

Because you are one of those telecommuters (look like business
customer), Telco would have to bring extra copper pairs to the Network
Interface box at your home. Depending on how you are served (aerial or
underground), the property owner is generally responsible for all
trenching from the property line to your residence. This would be
de-regulated work that the telco can perform or any contractor. Pac
Bell would generally farm that out anyway to a sub using time and
materials.

In terms of special construction, the state regulators and the feds
have pretty straightforward definitions of what it is.

Telcos are allowed to charge special construction for any investments
that would be STRANDED or not reusable in the event you would
discontinue service (i.e. move away and typical consumer take
residence). PacBell would likely have to file a tariff or the contract
with the PUC.  I doubt it is arbitrary.

I would suggest SIGNING A LONG TERM CONTRACT and the charges may
become a moot point. If the Telco is guaranteed a sufficient return on
investment, you may not have the problem. Pure economics.

I know in the Ameritech region, there are no install charges on T1s if
you sign a three or five year contract. If you disconnect early, then
you have to pay them back.

Did you ask for a Term Plan on the Hicap? 

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 30 Oct 97 08:57:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 297

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    New NPA for St. Paul (Tad Cook)
    Free Telecom Seminar (Joe Scotti)
    Phone Extension to Remote Location (EdM@barneyboller.com)
    800/888 Rationing Update (Judith Oppenheimer)
    Call For Papers: Applied Telecommunication Symposium (B.L. Bodnar)
    Re: Paging Firm Collapses (Anthony Argyriou)
    Re: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic (Rudy Torres)
    Re: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic (samiller@BIX.com)
    Re: Gilder Says Reno Attacked Microsoft too Late (L. Drew Davis)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (Adam H. Kerman)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (Bruce Wilson)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (Allison Hift)
    Re: New York Times on Net Day (John R. Levine)
    Re: New York Times on Net Day (Kevin DeMartino)
    Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today (Linc Madison)

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Subject: New NPA for St. Paul
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:31:06 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


St. Paul, Minn., to Get New Area Code, Agency Decides

By Martin J. Moylan, Saint Paul Pioneer Press, Minn.
Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Oct. 29--St. Paul and other communities in the eastern half of the
Twin Cities will be switched to a new area code next July, the
Minnesota Public Utilities Commission decided Tuesday.

The split will leave Minneapolis and the western suburbs in the 612
area -- at least for the time being.

The PUC did not rule out the possibility of yet another split sometime
in the next several years.

Without the split, the supply of telephone numbers in the 612 area
code likely would have been exhausted by summer, thanks to a growing
appetite by customers for second lines, cellular phones, pagers and
other devices.

In August, the PUC couldn't agree on a solution after a series of
public hearings on the subject over the summer.

But commissioners on Tuesday readily approved the east-west split on a
4-1 vote, saying it keeps together communities that identify with each
other, requires relatively little ten-digit dialing and fosters
competition between US West and companies that want to challenge its
lock on the local phone business.

"There's something to being able to dial seven digits," Chairman
Edward Garvey said. "Sixty to eighty percent of calls would be seven
digits under a split. With this split, we can preserve seven-digit
dialing for most citizens most of the time."

Don Storm was the only commissioner to back an "overlay" plan, which
would have superimposed a new area code on the existing 612 area code.

Existing phone customers would get to keep their old numbers. But that
would also mean two area codes for the same area, and all calls would
require ten-digit dialing.

Under that proposal, some homes and businesses could have ended up with
telephones having different area codes.

"Are we concluding that the public is not capable of doing more
ten-digit dialing?" asked Storm. "I can't see anything less disruptive
than the overlay. ... The public is much brighter and more capable of
adjusting to multiple numbers than we acknowledge."

But commissioner Gregory Scott said an overlay would leave US West
with the bulk of 612 numbers, and consumers and business would value
it more.

"I can't get around the idea that an overlay is anti-competitive," he
said.

In the fall of 1999, the PUC will consider the Twin Cites' need for
perhaps a third area code. It's gambling that efforts to conserve
telephone numbers and technology fixes will preclude that, though.

But if a new area code is needed, the commission indicated it would
give Minneapolis, Richfield and some adjacent communities an area code
of their own.

The commission expects US West will appeal its decision because of the
commission's edict that the east-west split follow municipal boundaries,
not phone exchange lines.

US West protested that rejiggering its network to follow community
lines would be risky and cost it at least $10 million.

But Garvey dismissed the Baby Bell's laments.

"We should not be held hostage to willy-nilly exchange boundaries," he
said.

The commission's east-west boundary is pretty soft, actually. It had not
even assigned all suburbs to one side or the other when it voted for the
area code split Tuesday.

Garvey said that some suburbs could switch sides if that made deployment 
of a new area code easier.

The PUC also left some big issues hanging.

It did not address what relief, if any, to offer alarm companies that
must reprogram burglar and other alarms. A trade group representative
estimated that the Twin Cities area has 100,000 to 150,000 alarms.

The commission also did not decide if it will allow cellular phones
and pagers held by St. Paulites and their eastern brethren to be
grandfathered.  That would mean they would not have to reprogram the
devices with a new area code.

At Tuesday's hearing, US West and the Minnesota Telephone Association,
representing 88 of the state's 92 local phone companies, backed an
overlay, arguing it provided the greatest long-term relief with the
least amount of confusion.

"With a split you have to think, `Where am I calling and where am I
calling from?"' said Mike Thompson of US West. "An overlay eliminates
that confusion. A split adds complexity and creates confusion." The
overlay has been adopted in only a few states, including Maryland and
Colorado.

The Minnesota Business Utilities Users Council, which includes 3M,
Honeywell, Norwest Bank, and 12 other big Minnesota companies, called
for a split. saying it would better promote competition, while
retaining a high degree of seven-digit dialing.

"And tying an area code to some sort of geographic connection is
deeply important," said Bill Flynn of the MBUUC. "It is deeply
embedded in the psyche of rate payers."

In voting for an east-west split, the PUC rejected two other split
options on the table.

One would have divided the 612 area code in three areas immediately. 
The other -- the doughnut approach -- would have given one area code
to Minneapolis and St. Paul and some surrounding suburbs.  Another
code would have gone to the rest of the territory that now comprises
the 612 area code.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:03:35 -0500
From: Joe Scotti <joe.scotti@auditel.com>
Subject: Free Telecom Seminar


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The conference will be opened by co-hosts Joe Scotti, AUDITEL's
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This overview will be followed by a panel discussion.

"Several of the companies providing local telephone services have
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directly with the people who are shaping the future of telecommunications 
in New Hampshire."

A question and answer period will following the panel discussion.

The last education teleconference held jointly by AUDITEL and Gallagher,
Callahan and Gartrell was held in May of 1997 and addressed the issues
of presubscription and deregulation.

Anyone wishing to join in on the telephone conference may register by
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charges apply.

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based in Hampstead, NH.  With 40 years of industry experience, AUDITEL
assists companies with the design, procurement, installation and
implementation of telephone systems, data networks, videoconferencing
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Gallagher, Callahan and Gartrell, a full-service law firm representing
clients in the areas of utilities and telecommunications, is
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representing clients in the telecommunications field.

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------------------------------

From: Ed M <EdM@barneyboller.com>
Subject: Phone Extension to Remote Location
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:38:36 -0500
Organization: Netcom


I would like to run a phone extension from a PBX to a location 4400
feet from the nearest phone jack.  Running to this location is a power
cable (120 VAC) and multimode fiber.  I was planning to use boxes that
run phone over AC but this doesn't seem to work over these distances.
I was assured by the salesperson that the units I tried (the brand is
EZOnline) would work so long as they are on the same phase but all I
get is hiss though they work fine when placed closer together.  Being
consumer level stuff the technical support is nil.

Does anyone know where I can get "extended range" phone-over-AC units?
Or does anyone know where I can get equipment that is cabable of
running an extension out over multimode fiber?


Thanks.
(remove nospam if replying privately)

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:34:39 -0500
From: Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
Reply-To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
Organization: ICB TOLL FREE - 800/888 news... commentary... consulting...
Subject: 800/888 Rationing Update


The 888 Conservation Plan will stretch the toll-free resource to April
'98, based on certain assumptions, one of which is that the amount of
numbers returned to Spare (available) will be approximately 54,230 per
week, an amount derived at from last year's averages.

Toll-free number growth -- amount Reserved less amount returned to
Spare -- for the week ending October 25 was approximately 58,955
numbers, certainly within plan parameters.  However, the amount of
numbers returned to Spare last week was down 20,000 from prior weeks,
which signals, at the very least, an appearance of RespOrgs recycling
disconnected numbers, rather than return them to the available pool.

Beyond the legal ramifications, a trend in this direction would
indicate a potential problem in reaching April '98.


Judith Oppenheimer, Publisher
ICB TOLL FREE NEWS - http://www.icbtollfree.com
Mailto:joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com with your name, company 
name and title to activate 15-day FREE Online trial subscription.
Incl. fax number (U.S. only) for FREE Fax Edition trial subscription.
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From: bohdan@ihgp4.ih.lucent.com (B. L. Bodnar)
Subject: Call For Papers: Applied Telecommunication Symposium
Date: 29 Oct 1997 22:03:20 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies


         Applied Telecommunication Symposium (ATS)

            Part of the 1998 Advanced Simulation
             Technologies Conference (ASTC'98)
                      April 5-9, 1998
                  Boston Park Plaza Hotel
                   Boston, Massachusetts

The Applied Telecommunication Symposium is intended for professionals,
engineers, developers, managers, and others interested in cellular and
packet traffic characteristics, analysis of telecommunication
networks, and practitioners operating telecommunication networks.

We are looking for innovative technical papers describing projects,
applications, and research and development work pertinent to
telecommunication.  Topics of interest include, but are not limited
to:

   - Traffic Models

       1.  Internet Traffic

       2.  Packet Switching

       3.  Cellular (CDMA, TDMA, Voice Signaling, Call
           Details)

   - Overload Control and High Load Handling

       1.  Internet on POTS Line

       2.  Internet Telephony

       3.  Load Balancing

       4.  Overload Control Strategies

   - Component Modeling

   - Processors

   - Interprocessor Communication

   - Systems

   - Router Design and Evaluation

   - ATM

   - Voice & Data Integration

                   Conference Committee:

Dr. Bohdan Bodnar
Lucent Technologies, Inc.
bbodnar@lucent.com

Dr. Ariel Sharon
Lucent Technologies, Inc.
asharon@lucent-com

Keith Stanley
Lucent Technologies, Inc.
krstan@lucent.com

Dr. Axel Lehmann
University of Munich
lehmann@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de


Three copies of a 300-word abstract or a draft paper should be
submitted to the session organizers by November 24, 1997.
Notification of acceptance is currently being sent for papers which
have been submitted.  Full papers will be published in the Conference
Proceedings and should be submitted to The Society for Computer
Simulation International by January 12, 1998.  The abstracts should be
sent to:

Applied Telecommunication Symposium
c/o ASTC'98
P.O. Box 17900
San Diego, CA 92177
USA

The Society for Computer Simulation International may be accessed on
the Web at http://www.scs.org

------------------------------

From: anthony@alphageo.com (Anthony Argyriou)
Subject: Re: Paging Firm Collapses
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 03:32:03 GMT
Organization: Alpha Geotechnical
Reply-To: anthony@alphageo.com


tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) passed our way:

> California Bay Area Pager Service's Collapse No Surprise

> By Jon Healey, San Jose Mercury News, Calif.
> Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

> SAN JOSE, Calif.--Oct. 27--The collapse of EconoPage Inc., the largest

[various snips]

> As a reseller, EconoPage did not operate a paging network; instead, it
> resold the pagers and services it bought in bulk from some of the
> nation's largest paging networks, including PageNet and PageMart
> Inc. of Dallas.

> PageNet is now in the process of cutting off service to customers who
> purchased paging contracts through EconoPage, but it is also offering
> them a discount rate of $60 to continue their service for another
> year. Eligible customers are those whose pagers have a PageNet logo.

My girlfriend's pager was from EconoPage.  She was paged today
(Wednesday) by TSR Wireless, her service provider.  The number has a
taped message saying that they will be contacting customers directly
within three weeks to re-establish them as direct TSR Wireless
customers, and that they will not cut off service before then.

> EconoPage's biggest growth spurt came in the last six to 12 months,
> after it had opened more than 30 retail outlets, Wolk said. About five
> months ago, though, checks that EconoPage had written to PageNet for
> pagers started to bounce.

My local EconoPage store has a sign on the door which says "closed for
internal audit" - their phone number is apparently pretty unresponsive
(I was told that the OGM is "Hello.  Goodbye.")

An employee of a competitor of their's told me that the owners of the
company were very difficult to find recently, and implied that they
may have run off to Hawaii, or some such, as their company collapsed.

More news when my girlfriend experiences it.


Anthony Argyriou
http://www.alphageo.com

------------------------------

From: Rudy Torres <Rto@gd2.swissptt.ch>
Subject: Re: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic
Date: 30 Oct 1997 07:39:55 GMT
Organization: Swisscom AG
Reply-To: Rudy Torres <Rudy.Torres2@gd2.swissptt.ch>


Maybe it is time for consumers to complain very loudly to their PUCs
about Bell Atlantic's new policy.  I'm sure the PUCs will authorize
such a policy in exchange for much lower tariff prices to satisfy
consumers.

Or, like the residents in some are of New York (IIRC) some time ago
protested, they all flushed their toliets at the same time causing a
serious problem to the Department of Water and Sewage (whom the
residents were protesting).  Maybe all the users of Modems and Faxes
in Bell Atlantic's region should all dial into the PSTN at the same
time (over and over again by millions of customers) for about 30
minutes in protest.

Just a thought on democracy and economic market forces.  : )

A very successful businessman once said, "...always remember, the
customer is always right."


Rudy

[To e-mail via auto-reply, please remove "anti-spam" measures from the
address prior to sending]

------------------------------

From: samiller@BIX.com
Subject: Re: Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic
Date: 29 Oct 1997 13:12:06 GMT
Organization: Galahad


On Mon, 27 Oct 97 16:17 EST Robert J. Perillo of TELECOM Digest wrote this
re Modem Users, Who You Gonna Call?; Not Bell Atlantic:

> This decision is seen as a marketing move to stimulate demand for
> ISDN lines

Got the letter, thought it was stupid (although I personally don't see
how anyone could go for BA's inside wire maintenance anyway ;>) What
confuses me is the allegation that BA hopes to use this ploy to sell
ISDN (that was my reading of the letter as well) because AFAIK BA
stopped scheduling ISDN installations about six months ago, about the
time their proposed ISDN tariffs were shot down.  Are they installing
now?  If not, what the aitch do they want?


Scott A. Miller  samiller@bix.com samiller@bellatlantic.net

------------------------------

From: drewd@mindspring.com (L. Drew Davis)
Subject: Re: Gilder Says Reno Attacked Microsoft too Late
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:14:33 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Reply-To: drewd@mindspring.com


TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to Eric Florack <Eric_Florack@xn.
xerox.com>:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't think Ms. Reno is very good at
> math. Let's pencil this out: how many shares of Microsoft does Gates
> own? 

   A bit under 271 million, as of September 1997, or about 22.3% of
the company.

> How much is the value of each share? 

   At close on the 29th, 131 1/8th.

> His net worth now is around 48 billion I think. 

   About 35.5 billion in Microsoft stock.  I have no idea what else he
may own, but it's probably negligible compared with the Microsoft
shares.

> Given a fine of a million dollars per day, Gates will be broke in
> 101 years ...

   The whole point of a corporation is to separate individual assets
from company assets.  Microsoft, not Gates, will be paying the fine
(if any).  $1 million per day represents about 10% of MS's earnings
after taxes last year.  In terms of assets, they've got about 9
billion in cash out of 10 billion total, and they're earning about 5%
on that money.  Their interest income could cover the fine.

   (Invidious comparisons in this post brought to you by www.sec.gov
and the EDGAR database.  A "10K" is an annual report, and a "14A" is a
proxy statement listing people with significant numbers of shares.)


L. Drew Davis                          drewd@mindspring.com
You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:52:47 CST
From: Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.chinet.com>
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases


Marty Bose <martyb@dnai.com> wrote:

> I'm disappointed to see TELECOM Digest publishing a troll request
> like this one. When I worked for a PCS carrier this was a typical
> request from a lawyer trying to find a way for his client to bust a
> lease that the owner had second thoughts about. On the average they
> would come back and request a new lease at four to ten times the
> original lease, usually after construction had started.

It's perfectly legitimate to ask about the value of land. I assumed
that no lease had been signed.

I hope the landowner gets a lease at a fair price. What would not be
fair is if his land isn't immediately reassessed at its new, higher
value.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:00:18 -0500
From: blw1540@aol.com (Bruce Wilson)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases


In article <telecom17.293.4@telecom-digest.org>, Marty Bose
<martyb@dnai.com> writes:

> I'm disappointed to see TELECOM Digest publishing a troll request like
> this one.  When I worked for a PCS carrier this was a typical request
> from a lawyer trying to find a way for his client to bust a lease that
> the owner had second thoughts about.  On the average they would come
> back and request a new lease at four to ten times the original lease,
> usually after construction had started.

This sounds like the Bell System (and large independent) paranoia I
came to know and love during my years with what was then the Iowa
State Commerce Commission.  I don't see any way that knowing what
average terms are will help a party break a lease.  Somebody who wants
to try holding a gun to a company's head is going to try to do it
regardless of what others may be doing and how their demands compare
to averages.


Bruce Wilson

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:26:36 EST
From: Allison Hift <hift@cobra.law.miami.edu>
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases


I take this opportunity to respond too the post by Marty Bose:

> I'm disappointed to see TELECOM Digest publishing a troll request like
> this one.  When I worked for a PCS carrier this was a typical request
> from a lawyer trying to find a way for his client to bust a lease that
> the owner had second thoughts about.  On the average they would come
> back and request a new lease at four to ten times the original lease,
> usually after construction had started.

> I hope that no one will respond to this, as this guy may go to work
> for one of your clients next!

"This guy" that you refer to is a young, ambitious, woman who just
graduated from law school and will be admitted to the Bar in November.
I have clerked for two years for the Law Firm of Leibowitz &
Associates, P.A.  This Firm solely represents counties and cities in
telecommunications matters.  I am now an attorney at this Firm
(Pending Bar Admission).  I, along with the Law Firm, pride myself on
practicing fairly and ethically.  I do not appreciate you rude posting
concerning my question.  I am collecting information concerning tower
site lease agreements throughout the United States so that I can
assist a client of the Firm's in making an informed, intelligent
decision.


Allison K. Hift, Bar Admission Pending
Leibowitz & Associates, P.A.
1 Southeast Third Ave.  Suite 1450
Miami, Florida  33131-1715
Voice (305) 530-1322
Fax   (305) 530-9417
http://www.library.law.miami.edu/~hift
hift@cobra.law.miami.edu	

------------------------------

Date: 29 Oct 1997 05:33:18 -0000
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: New York Times on Net Day
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


> An article in Saturday's {New York Times} (10/25/97) "Internet's
> Value in U.S. Schools Still in Question" (page 1) described the 2nd
> annual netday and showed the prejudice of some of the press against
> the educational use of the Internet.

I thought the story was pretty well balanced.  I've been active
getting our small upstate district on-line, and we're all acutely
aware that although Net access can be quite useful to high school
kids, the younger the kids are the less use they have for computers.
As others have noted, computers are expensive and installing computers
for the sake of doing so is rarely a good use of limited district
funds.

We are fortunate in having a lot of skilled local volunteers (many
Cornell people live in the district) and enough wiggle room in the
budget that we were able to add money for computers without cutting
anything else.  But if it were a tradeoff between, say, elementary
school computers and elementary school music and art instruction, I
know which one I'd choose.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com, Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Finger for PGP key, f'print = 3A 5B D0 3F D9 A0 6A A4  2D AC 1E 9E A6 36 A3 47 

------------------------------

From: Kevin DeMartino <KDeMartino@drc.com>
Subject: Re: New York Times on Net Day
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:58:59 -0500


	Thomas G. Spalthoff is right on target (V17 #293). The
Internet is a great medium for communicating and accessing
information, but it is not a silver bullet for our schools. Do we
really need every classroom wired to the Internet, as President
Clinton has suggested? Computer literacy is important, but it is not
as important as literacy in English (and other languages).


Kevin DeMartino
kdemartino@drc.com

------------------------------

From: Telecom@LincMad.NOSPAM (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 22:04:39 -0800
Organization: LincMad Consulting; change NOSPAM to COM


In article <telecom17.296.11@telecom-digest.org>,
jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com (John David Galt) wrote:

> No one has mentioned this, but I doubt that folks _in_ the territories
> have permissive dialing, because lots of prefixes in Alberta probably
> conflict with those in the eastern (former 819) part of 867; and lots
> of prefixes in Quebec/819 probably conflict with those in the western
> part of 867.

It's a moot point, unless some part of Yukon/NWT allows seven-digit
toll dialing.  If they have 1+10D for HNPA tolls, then there is no
ambiguity: you can dial 1-{403/819/867}-nxx-xxxx, permissively, with
the obvious caveats.

Dixon, CA, had to be splash cut without outbound permissive dialing on
their realignment because they have 7D HNPA toll dialing.

Another interesting angle, though, would be local calls in Inuvik.
Presumably they can still have permissive dialing of the local
979-xxxx or 777-xxxx numbers, assuming they have full toll alerting.
If you dial 777-xxxx, you must mean (867) 777-xxxx, since otherwise
you'd dial 1-403-777-xxxx; likewise, 979-xxxx must mean (403)
979-xxxx, since otherwise you'd dial 1-819- or 1-867-979-xxxx.  Then
again, Inuvik is small enough that they might have local 4D
dialing.


** Do not spam e-mail me!  <http://www.lincmad.com/spamoff.html> **
Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, California  *   Telecom@LincMad-com
 >>  NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com"  <<

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Subject: TELECOM Digest V17 #298

TELECOM Digest     Thu, 30 Oct 97 09:28:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 298

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    FBI Chief Calls For Computer Crime Crackdown (Monty Solomon)
    FCC Proposes V-Chip For Computers, from Time/Netly News (Monty Solomon)
    BellSouth Boosts Pay-Phone Call Price to 35 Cents (Stan Schwartz)
    Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Scott Robert Dawson)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Greg Monti)
    Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Stanley Cline)
    Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Fred R. Goldstein)

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 22:23:55 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: FBI Chief Calls For Computer Crime Crackdown
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


FBI chief calls for computer crime crackdown
	 

	    ORLANDO, Fla. (Reuters) - FBI director Louis Freeh said
Tuesday that criminals were moving increasingly into cyberspace and
without new laws ``drug dealers, arms dealers, terrorists and spies
will have immunity like no other''.

	    Freeh told the International Association of Chiefs of
Police that software manufacturers should be required by law to
include a feature that allows police to descramble encrypted
communications.

	    ``It could take a $30 million supercomputer a year to
figure out the simplest encrypted message without this feature,''
Freeh said. ``And that message might be 'we have the victim and will
kill him in an hour'.''

	    ``We're not opposed to encrypting. Encrypting is very
important when transacting business but encrypting makes it very hard
to enforce court orders for surveillance.''

	    Freeh said he supported a cyber surveillance law with
these features which passed out of the House Intelligence Committee.
That bill has the support of the FBI, Justice Department, Drug
Enforcement Administration and other federal law enforcement agencies
but does not have White House backing.

	    ``Our own administration has not gotten behind this
initiative. There are some very powerful industry forces opposing
this,'' Freeh said.

	    The ability of criminals to communicate with one another
with computers is changing the face of law enforcement, Freeh said.

	    ``All the boxes of evidence we used to bring back have
been replaced by hard drives and discs. When we graduate our agents we
give them in addition to a gun and a badge a laptop computer.''

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 02:05:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: FCC Proposes V-Chip For Computers, From Time/Netly News
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


Begin forwarded message:

  Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:17:18 -0500
  From: Declan McCullagh <Declan_McCullagh@timemagazine.com>
  Subject: FC: FCC proposes V-Chip for computers, from Time/Netly News

THE V CHIP, COMING TO A COMPUTER NEAR YOU

Time Magazine
November 3, 1997
Page 36

If you hated the idea of a V chip in your television, wait until you
hear that the government wants to install one in your computer. TIME
has learned that the FCC has proposed that new PCs be outfitted with a
V chip to filter out video violence and sex. Still unclear is what Net
broadcasts could be affected. The idea alarms free-speech advocates,
who wonder why Americans need a Net-nanny. 

"What you get is a devolution of the First Amendment," argues lawyer
Bob Corn-Revere. FCC chairman REED HUNDT says the high-tech industry
can "be part of the process" as the agency sets rules. There's a
low-tech alternative: the off switch.

 --By Declan McCullagh/Washington

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:29:57 PST
From: Stan Schwartz <stannc@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: stannc@no*spam.yahoo.com
Subject: BellSouth Boosts Pay-Phone Call Price to 35 Cents


 From the {Charlotte Observer} 10/30/97:

BellSouth Public Communications, the largest pay phone provider in the
Southeast, announced today that it will raise pay phone prices in its
nine-state service area from 25 cents to 35 cents beginning Saturday.
Company President Jim Hawkins said it will take about a month to
convert all of the phones to the new charge. Several other companies
have also raised rates the past few weeks.  The rate increase will
apply to the Carolinas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky,
Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee. BellSouth Public Communications,
based in the Birmingham, Ala., suburb of Homewood, is the pay phone
business of the BellSouth Corp. and operates 170,000 of the 300,000
pay phones in the nine states, Hawkins said.

- end of story

In the ruling that allowed the above to occur, the North Carolina
State Utilities Commission on October 6th outlawed the practice of
charging for 800 and 888 calls at public telephones.  As of today, the
COCOTs on Tryon Street in Charlotte owned by Tel-A-Leasing of
Jacksonville, IL have been updated to reflect the new 35 cent local
charge (although it's 25 cents a minute anywhere *else* in the country
from these phones), but they still request a quarter for 800 and 888
calls.  A call to their customer service (ha!) department connected me
with a drone who didn't know what I was talking about.  However, a
call to the NCPUC in Raleigh got much better results!  The owner of
the COCOTS has been notified and has a couple of weeks to correct the
problem (while still bilking customers a quarter at a time).


 - Stan
(remove the obvious for return e-mail)

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From: sunspace@interlog.com.antispamtext (Scott Robert Dawson)
Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:43:05 GMT
Organization: Interlog Internet Services


On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:47:28 -0800, Telecom@LincMad.NOSPAM (Linc
Madison) wrote:

> In article <telecom17.291.3@telecom-digest.org>, Jeff Smith
> <smasher@idirect.com> wrote:

>> Bell Canada is set to annouce 4 new area codes for the GTA.  (New
>> Metro Toronto).

>> 1.  Durham Region         - will move to a new area code

>> 2.  Peel & Halton         - will move to a new area code
>> (these regions will share area code until split is needed)

>> 3. York                   - will retain the current 905 area code
>>  - the rest of 905 not in the GTA will move to a new area code.

>> 4. (new)  Toronto         - will either get an overlay or a split of
>> the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a
>> seperate area code.
 
Okay ... time for a lesson on the naming and geography of the Greater
Toronto Area ...
 
<rolls up sleeves>
 
The GTA is the Greater Toronto Area, which includes the city of
Toronto and all its surrounding cities, suburbs, and towns. "GTA" is
an unofficial name which has nevertheless entered general usage
(headlines in the papers, etc...).

The GTA can be rather effectively defined as the areas with less than
approximately two hours travel time to Union Station in downtown
Toronto on "interregional" public transit, the green-and-white
Government of Ontario trains and buses. This defines an area
stretching roughly from Hamilton in the west to Bowmanville in the
east to Newmarket in the north.
 
Many people commute by car from areas further away, such as Barrie,
Kitchener-Waterloo or the Caledon Hills, but these areas have not yet
become "bedroom communities": they still have their own local economic
and cultural identities. The city of Hamilton at the western end of
Lake Ontario has its own identity as well, although it is well under
two hours' travel time to downtown Toronto.

As I grew up, I watched the town of Whitby change from being the
county seat (population 15 000) of Ontario County to being just
another bedroom community of 65 000 in Durham Region. But that's
another story ...  

>> By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities.
>> Namely:        1. City of Toronto
>>                2. City of Durham
>>                3. City of Peel
>>                4. City of York
>>                5. City of Halton

>> People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the
>> regions ready now!

> This is almost certainly incorrect.  First of all, there is no "City
> of Durham" in Toronto.  Durham, Ontario, is a town north of Kitchener,
> in the 519 area code.  "Metro Toronto" consists of the City of Toronto,
> York, East York, North York, Etobicoke, and Scarborough.  Those six
> cities currently share area code 416.  The same six cities are being
> proposed for merger into "Megacity Toronto."
 
Jeff Smith's original post was referring to Durham Region, immediately
to the east of Metropolitan Toronto, in area code 905. It is a
regional municipality which includes the city of Oshawa as well as the
towns of Whitby, Ajax, Pickering and others.  

> More importantly, York is not currently in 905, so it is absolutely
> NOT going to be moved into 905 to the exclusion of all current 905
> communities.  No way, no how.  York is currently in 416.
  
Again, Jeff's original post was almost certainly referring to York
Region, which is a regional municipality immediately north of the
current Metro Toronto, and is in area code 905.  It includes the city
of Vaughan, and the towns of Markham, Richmond Hill, Aurora, and
others.

The present City of York is in the regional municipality of
Metropolitan Toronto, in area code 416. It  will cease to exist along
with the other cities in Metro (the city of Toronto, the cities of
North York, Etobicoke, Scarborough, and the Borough of East York), and
the regional municipality of Metropolitan Toronto itself, when they
all vanish and are replaced by the new larger City of Toronto.

> Lastly, there is no way that Bell Canada could possibly get NANPA
> approval for four new area codes at once for the Toronto region,
> especially if you are talking (as you appear to be) only about the
> area that is currently in 416.

> Relief proposals for 416 have focused along two principal alternatives:
> (A) geographic split, probably along Yonge Street
> (B) all-services overlay of 416
 
A lot of this confusion seems to stem from the name of "York", which
has persisted around the Toronto area, vanishing from one area only to
reappear in another.

<HISTORY LESSON>

Originally there was the settlement of Toronto. In the early
nineteenth century it was renamed to be the town of York. North of the
town of York was a town called North York. East of York was another
town called East York.
 
Later, York was renamed to be Toronto again, but East York and North
York kept their names. Other towns appeared in the area, and by the
twentieth century some of the towns, such as Toronto, were becoming
cities.
 
The world wars came and went, and then the great postwar boom arrived.
Cities began to grow together. In 1953 eleven surrounding towns,
including the towns of East York and North York, federated with the
City of Toronto to form the first regional municipality, known as
Metropolitan Toronto. The boom continued.
 
In the early seventies, other regional municipalities were formed
around Metro Toronto. On the east there was the Region of Durham.
North of Metro Toronto there was the Region of York (there's that name
again!). On the western side, there was the Region of Peel, containing
what became the cities of Mississauga and Brampton, among others.

Further west, there was the Region of Halton, containing the towns of
Oakville and Burlington, and others. The city of Hamilton was placed
in yet another Region.

Metro Toronto itself was never referred to as a "Region", although it
is one.
 
</HISTORY LESSON>

These are the Regions that the original poster referred to as becoming
the City of Durham, the City of Peel, the City of York, and the City
of Halton. This implies the amalgamation of all the smaller towns and
cities within them, which would probably be bitterly resisted.
However, strong popular resistance (70% against in a non-binding
referendum) didn't stop the provincial government from amalgamating
Metro Toronto ...  
 
The City of York referred to here is a future amalgamated Region of
York, and has nothing to do with the current City of York in Metro
Toronto. 
 
Most of the development in York Region is in the south, next to the
border with Metro Toronto. This is commonly referred to as "South York
Region", for instance on the local transit systems. South York Region
is directly north of North York, the city in Metro Toronto... I still
maintain that this isn't as confusing as the street layout in
Kitchener-Waterloo. :-)
 
There is no formal governmental body administering the GTA as a whole
yet, but it's only a matter of time... some people have spoken of a
new "Province of Toronto".or "Province of Southern Ontario" (that last
would be larger than the GTA) but this is far from being even a
coherent idea. 
 
What is true is that a formal GTA governing body would be all set to
federate the regions with the new amalgamated City of Toronto ( the
original Metropolitan Toronto) in the same way as the original
Metropolitan Toronto federated the city of Toronto and its neighbours.
This is what Jeff referred to as "New Metro Toronto".
 
So Jeff's post seems to refer to four new area codes in the Toronto
area: 

** a new code for Durham Region and all areas in 905 east of Metro
Toronto;

** a new code for Peel and Halton Regions in 905 west of Metro Toronto;

** a new code for areas in 905 west and south of Peel and Halton (this
would presumably include the Hamilton area and the Nigara Peninsula as
far as  Niagara Falls and the northeastern shore of Lake Erie, which
is now in 905;

* *and a new additional area code for all areas in the current Metro
Toronto (this would be the already-announced overlay of 416).
 
The areas north of Metro Toronto would keep the 905 area code.
 
This plan does seem to be overkill ... though admittedly once
completed, no-one in the area would have to change area codes for a
*long* time.  And I'd get one of the cool new-style area codes! :-)
 
Jeff, any word on when any official announcements might be?

 
Scott Robert Dawson
<sunspace@interlog.com.antispamtext>
Note: remove the characters .antispamtext from
this address to get my real address...

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:13:24 -0500
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification


On 27 Oct 97, Marty Tennant <marty@sccoast.net> wrote:

> I tried dialing only 700-4141 [in South Carolina].  No go, "your long
> distance carrier cannot complete your call as dialed".  

> Anyone else with intralata presubscription out there with anything to
> report on this new verification code?

Yes.  Here in New Jersey 700-4141 does tell you your intraLATA carrier.
You can have three carriers on each line: local, intraLATA toll, and
interLATA toll.  Mine are:

                  Voice Line       Modem Line
                  ----------       ----------
local             Bell Atlantic    Bell Atlantic
intraLATA toll    Bell Atlantic    MCI
interLATA toll    Sprint           LCI (result of a slam; going back to MCI)


Greg Monti  Jersey City, New Jersey, USA
gmonti@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~gmonti

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From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:51:48 GMT
Organization: none -- too much spam!
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:35:47 -0500, Marty Tennant <marty@sccoast.net>
wrote:

> I tried dialing only 700-4141.  No go, "your long distance carrier
> cannot complete your call as dialed".  I then tried 1-803-700-4141,

I have *never* seen the intraLATA PIC verification number work as only
seven digits.  It requires 1+NPA everywhere I've seen/used it,
probably because of the old "1+ route to tandem/IXC" school of
thought.

> since I am in NPA 803.  It worked, but said "thank you for using GTE".

Many LECs still do not have the translations for the intraLATA PIC
verification number right ...

In some cases, the recordings simply go to the wrong carrier.  For
example, my parents, in the Rossville, GA/Chattanooga, TN CO, get
their *IXC's* intraLATA recording when they dial 1-706-700-4141 --
their interLATA carrier is LCI, but their intraLATA carrier is
BellSouth -- because the Rossville CO is treated as "Tennessee" by the
Georgia PSC, and Tennessee doesn't allow intraLATA PIC yet.  Yuck.
(Then again, they don't make very many intraLATA calls; most of their
calls are to the Atlanta LATA [me] ...)

I've heard that in other areas, 1-NPA-700-4141 seems to go to AT&T
regardless of the customer's intraLATA carrier.

richgr@netcom.com (Rich Greenberg) wrote:

> Doesn't work here in BellSouth 770 land.

700-4141 by itself doesn't work in Atlanta.  Neither does NPA-700-4141
without a leading 1.

As for 1-770-700-4141, it routes to REORDER when dialed from lines in
"my" CO (Marietta Main) when the line is PICed to BellSouth, or if the
call is forced through BellSouth from a line PICed to another carrier
by dialing 1015124 -- BellSouth's intraLATA CIC -- first.

OTOH, dialing 1-770-700-4141 from my lines, PICed to AT&T for both
intra- and interLATA, works just fine; I get "Thank you for choosing
AT&T for your LOCAL TOLL CALLING".  And if I dial another carrier's
CIC plus 1-770-700-4141, I get the right carrier's recording.

Another oddity: On a phone attached to a BRI ISDN line in the
Peachtree Place CO, in NPA 404, I had to dial 1-*770*-700-4141 to get
the intraLATA PIC recording.  With the NPA 678 overlay coming up, I
wonder what those with lines in 678 will have to dial -- 678, 404,
770, or even 706.  :)


Stanley Cline                         somewhere near Atlanta, GA, USA
roamer1(at)pobox.com               http://scline.home.mindspring.com/
spam not wanted here!    help outlaw spam - see http://www.cauce.org/

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From: fgoldstein@bbn.|nospam.|com (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Date: 30 Oct 1997 03:53:15 GMT
Organization: GTE Internetworking - BBN Technologies


In article <telecom17.296.7@telecom-digest.org>, levin@acunet.net says:

> I'm having a similarly annoying problem here in 617.  Someone calls me
> (I'm in 617 -- Boston) from Medford (until recently this was 617 --
> now it is 781).  I always get "out of area" information for this call.
> Just last week I got a flyer in my phone bill (from Bell Atlantic,
> which just recently merged with NYNEX) which boasted that now that
> NYNEX and Bell Atlantic were one company, Calling number AND name
> would be delivered throughout Bell Atlantic's area (something like
> Virginia to Maine).  Seems strange that I can't get this calling
> number and name data from a few miles away, in what was always NYNEX
> area and in what was until recently the same area code.  Anyone have
> any ideas?

You can't get it from Medford because Medford (actually, the Malden
CO) is still on an analog CO switch (1AESS).  NYNEX did not spend the
serious money to upgrade its analog switches to have Signaling System
7, which is a prerequisite for Caller ID.  Instead, they (I'd say
correctly, in this case) decided to just replace them all with digital
switches before the deadline for mandatory SS7, which is 1-Jan-1998.
So it will be replaced within the next two months.  Indeed, NYNEX
scheduled several CO replacements for 31-December-1997!

That won't solve the entire out-of-area problem.  While non-SS7 COs
are one cause, there are others.  PBX trunks that terminate on what
NYNEX called "Flexpath" (channelized T1), or on IXC switches, don't
have Caller ID either.  That's because trunk side ports on CO switches
don't have regular numbers.  They do have ANI numbers for billing, but
ANI is not Caller ID.  (Analog switches have ANI too.  ANI lacks "*67"
blocking capability, so it's not presented to sent-paid destinations,
but it does go to 800 users, who are after all paying for the call.)
We noticed this on our one residual Flexpath, whose outgoing calls
were "out of area"; it was fixed by upgrading to ISDN PRI, which sends
and receives Caller ID just fine.  Of course PRI is only available in
a small percentage of former-NYNEX COs, so it's not as if most PBX
users have a choice in the matter.  IXCs have PRI but no numbers to
show.


Fred R. Goldstein   k1io   fgoldstein"at" bbn.com   +1 617 873 3850
Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission.

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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Interpol on Computer Crime (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
    Switch Information Requested (PB Schechter)
    RISKS-L/comp.risks Defunct? (Rick DeMattia)
    Cyber Promotions is Back ... Check Your Filters (D. Metcalfe)
    Spamford Has an 800 Number (Rob McMillin)
    WECO 500 Schematic (Vaneen Parker)
    Siemens Euroset 221 S  IWV / MWV (Friedhelm Jens)
    MCI Cuts Off 2/3 of ISP's Phone Lines (sewilco@fieldday.mn.org)
    Strange Tones Heard When Making Calls (Chris Telesca)
    NPA for Windows Update (Paul Cook)
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From: Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <rishab@dxm.org>
Subject: Interpol on Computer Crime
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:09:25 +-5-30


Pat,

In the context of FBI Director Louis Freeh's statements on computer crime,
here's the Interpol take.


-rishab

[from American Reporter, the Internet's only daily newspaper,
www.american-reporter.com]

EXCLUSIVE: INTERPOL'S TOP INTERNET CRIMEFIGHTER SPEAKS OUT

 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
 American Reporter Correspondent
 New Delhi, India 

 NEW DELHI -- The impact of the Internet on crime-fighting may not be
as great as some hope, Interpol's top expert on networked computer
crimes has told the American Reporter. Hiroaki Takizawa says
old-fashioned methods of seeking evidence and gathering information
may remain the staple of crimefighters for a long time to come.

Takizawa talked to the American Reporter at the 66th annual General
Assembly of the worldwide crime-fighting organization Interpol
<http://www.interpol-pr.com> in New Delhi last week, where one of the
key topics of the conference was the impact of the Internet on global
crime and enforcement.

In an interview, the top Interpol expert on Internet and computer
crimes, Hiroaki Takizawa, said despite the serious problems being
posed by the Internet to police everywhere, traditional, off-line
evidence gathering and investigation will remain the primary tools of
law enforcement.

Takizawa admitted that strong cryptography and anonymous email make
illicit transactions difficult to monitor or trace through the
Internet. Interpol, he said, is concerned at the spread of
cryptography, but does not advocate legislation banning it.

"What we concentrate on is the implementation of legislation, rather
than legislation itself," said Takizawa, when asked if he favored a
crypto ban. "Police need human and financial resources" to investigate
crime using the Internet, feels Takizawa, more than unenforceable
legislative bans.

Do police make use of intercepted messages much, on a global scale?
"Yes, I think so, yeah," said Takizawa. However, "we don't, we haven't
had many cases" that relied on undecipherable messages as evidence.

"I don't think the Interpol plays an important role so far as
[legislation on] cryptography is concerned," says Takizawa. The
Interpol cannot make binding treaties affecting national law -- "it is
not really a policy developing organization," he said.

Instead, it makes resolutions "from the police point of view" -- and
its members then go home to lobby with their governments. It does not
intend to make any resolutions on cryptography, though. Instead
"[Interpol] will focus on training and coordination" so that police
forces around the world "can develop practical solutions." As for
changing the law, "the OECD<http://www.oecd.org> has started
discussion" on cryptography -- and has come to the conclusion
<http://www.oecd.org/dsti/iccp/crypto_e.html> that crypto bans are not
a good approach.

Interpol finds that an increasing amount of its work involves the Net
or computers in one way or another, and has set up a team to figure
out where police -- and the Interpol -- can have an effective
role. Interpol divides digital crime into three areas: computer crime,
which includes piracy, data-theft and time-theft (computer break-ins);
computer-related crime, which is mainly bank fraud -- "what was a
crime earlier with paper, but is now done with a computer," as
Takizawa says, and pornography.

The third, most recent area that "everyone's talking about now,"
Takizawa said, is what Interpol calls "network crime": the use of the
Internet for transactions that are already illegal -- child
pornography -- or aid illegal activity -- often involving the drug
trade, customs evasion and money laundering.

Takizawa finds that of these network crimes, child pornography and the
use of the Internet as an accessory to child sex abuse -- on-line
advertisements for Asian "sex tours" targeted at Westerners, for
example -- is the easiest to tackle. Stopping the distribution of
pornography itself is harder, though, thanks to the Internet --
"normally [pornography] was checked at the airport and confiscated by
customs, now you just download it by computer" -- so Interpol doesn't
even try, he says.

"Interception [is] impossible," said Takizawa bluntly. 

Instead, Interpol uses the easily searched structure of the Net to
trace material back to its off-line origins. Police aided by
Interpol's global network locate brochures for sex tourism on the Net
much more easily than if they were in print, and follow up with
off-line investigations and arrests, he said. 

The cross-jurisdictional nature of the Net -- and the fact that
countries disagree on precisely what activities are criminal -- is
less of a problem for child pornography than money-laundering.
Takizawa describes a recent case involving Germany and Japan: "from
Germany we received information [on child pornography found online]
pointing to Japan. Through Interpol we [passed] it on to Japan," where
authorities traced the originators and made arrests.

And what about money laundering? Doesn't the prospect of untraceable,
anonymous global electronic commerce on the Internet scare Interpol?

"Well, my counter-question is, have there been so many cases of
 ... [monetary] transactions using [the] Internet?" asks Takizawa.

Perhaps not -- yet. But once you have some form of the digital
currency required for any large-scale electronic commerce, what will
Interpol do about money laundering?

"We don't know," he admits. When cyberpayments are common, Takizawa
adds, "we cannot tell you what's going to happen. Everybody wants to
know that. If you can predict it perhaps you [will] get the Nobel
prize!"

For an organization sometimes represented as a global police force --
which Interpol is not -- being a coordinating body for 178 national
law enforcement agencies worldwide -- Takizawa's depiction of its
Internet policy is surprisingly tame. His view well may stem from a
basic understanding of the nature of crime, which doesn't occur on the
Internet so much as pass through it. However much criminals use the
Net, says Takizawa, police will always "need more evidence outside the
network."

                      ----------------

Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <rishab@dxm.org> is Editor of the New Delhi-based
Indian Techonomist, a popular technology journal. 

------------------------------

From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter)
Subject: Switch Information Requested
Date: 31 Oct 1997 23:33:26 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


Colorado is currently looking for ways to "conserve" numbers in the 303
area code.  One idea that has come up is the possibility of turning
Central Office Codes from NXXs to XXXs.  This would add about two million
numbers, and is possible because Colorado is going to use an overlay in
the 303 area, so ten digits will need to be dialed for all local calls.
(Just to be perfectly clear: currently, a CO code can't begin with 0 or
1 because those initial digits are used to indicate operator and long
distance calls, respectively.  However, if local calls are all prefaced
with the area code, the initial digit of a call to a number with a CO
code beginning with 0 or 1 *will not be 0 or 1.*)

Some people have claimed that this might "break" some switches
(particularly, outside of the North American Numbering Plan).  It seems
to me that, once a switch sees that a call is going "somewhere else"
(i.e., to a different area code), it won't even look at the remaining
digits (or, if it does, it won't care what they are).  However, I am
not a switch expert.

So, the request:  (1) Does anyone know if there are any switches that
would complain about a CO code beginning with a 0 or a 1, even if they
dialed digit string does *not* begin with a 0 or a 1?  (2) Does anyone
know how I can find this out?


Thanks in advance.

PB Schechter
PB.Schechter@dora.state.co.us

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Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 19:57:22 EST
From: rad@railnet.nshore.org (Rick DeMattia)
Subject: RISKS-L/comp.risks Defunct?
Reply-To: rad@railnet.nshore.org (Rick DeMattia)
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 440 786 0476


A question that is perhaps not totally irrelevant to the TELECOM
Digest.  I've read comp.risks for years and enjoyed it -- but
have not received anything for several months.  Does anyone know
whether it's defunct?  My newsfeed has received nothing, either,
but I can't completely rule out news propogation problems (still
uucp connected here ...).


Rick DeMattia <rad@railnet.nshore.org>


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Perhaps Peter N. the moderator of the
list or a regular reader will care to elaborate. I frankly do not
know the answer.   PAT]

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From: dmet@flatoday.infi.net (D. Metcalfe)
Subject: Cyber Promotions is Back ... Check Your Filters
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:04:58 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
Reply-To: dmet@flatoday.infi.net


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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The garbage text has all been removed
and just the information of interest has been left intact.  PAT]

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From: Rob McMillin <rlm@syseca-us.com>
Subject: Spamford Has an 800 Number
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 13:42:47 -0800
Organization: Syseca, Inc.


Perhaps this is news. I reviewed the whois database at
rs.internic.net, and it turned up a curious thing. One of Sanford
Wallace's InterNICnames (sw3758) has an 800 number, 800-650-9110. This
is unreachable from my area (El Lay). Could someone from Philadelphia
tell me if this is still available in their area, and if so, who
responds?


Robert L. McMillin | Not the voice of Syseca, Inc. | rlm@syseca-us.com
    Personal: rlm@helen.surfcty.com | rlm@netcom.com
Put 'rabbit' in your Subject: or my spam-schnauzer will eat your
message.

------------------------------

From: Vaneen Parker <vaneen22@earthlink.net>
Subject: WECO 500 Schematic
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 18:49:21 -0800
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.


I am interested in modifying an old non-dial phone to use the
components of a 500 set.  The old phone did not have a dial but had a
place to install one.  I have obtained a dial that fits in
mechanically.  The dial has five terminal posts that are unlabled.  I
can manage figuring out the dial switch contacts.

    It has been a long time since I have worked on a dial set,
however, and I can't remember how to connect the dial into the hybrid
network and handset to mute the dial pulses.

    The set that I intend to modify has only a handset and hookswitch
mounted in a metal base.  It looks like it have been manufactured in
the 30's or 40's, which I think was prior to dial tone (Please correct
me if I am mistaken).  I plan to put the network and a ringer in a
separate box.

    Any suggestion criticism  or help will be appreciated.


Last of the green truck guys!

------------------------------

From: Friedhelm.Jens@t-online.de (Friedhelm Jens)
Subject: Siemens Euroset 221 S  IWV / MWV
Date: 2 Nov 1997 09:36:10 GMT
Organization: T-Online


Ich habe folgendes Problem : Wie kann ich das oben genannte Telefon
fest von Impulswahl auf Mehrfrequenzwahl umstellen ??  Und auch wieder
zurck. Temporr ist bekannt ... :-))


Vielen Dank .....


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Query: Will someone please read the above
and translate it for me? It appears he wants information about
the model of telephone named in the subject line.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: sewilco@fieldday.mn.org
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:58:32 -0600
Subject: MCI Cuts Off 2/3 of ISP's Phone Lines


On October 31, 1997, the {Minneapolis Star Tribune} reported that an
ISP has had most of its phone lines cut off by its telephone company.
MCI has begun offering local telephone service to a limited area of
the Minneapolis-St. Paul region in competition with US West.  The
previous Saturday, US Internet Corp completed the conversion to 384
MCI telephone lines.  At 7 p.m. Wednesday, MCI told US Internet that
it could not handle the volume and duration of Internet connections
made by US Internet's customers.  Service to 240 of the 384 lines was
cut off at about 7 a.m. Thursday morning.  US Internet now reports
that its customers are getting busy signals.

------------------------------

From: ctelesca@pagesz.net (Chris Telesca)
Subject: Strange Tones Heard When Making Calls
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:03:38 -0500
Organization: Pagesz.net


Greetings!

I have previously posted to this group about some problems I was
having with my Remote-Access to Call-Forwarding feature from
BellSouth.  Since someone is apparently able to hack my PIN quite
easily, I have to check my phone to make sure it's not being forwarded
elsewhere by someone other than me.  In my house we have two lines -
my line rings in my office only, and the other line rings in several
rooms including my office.  So when I tie up my line by logging-in to
my ISP to check my e-mail or port to the Net (like I'm doing now), I
can use the other line through a Radio Shack Doufone Two-line
controller.  My line is line two, the other is line one.  Line two has
caller-id and *69 on it (flat-fee per month); line one had no
caller-id, but does have *69 on a per-call basis (charge made per each
use).

I understand that Caller-ID sends out a signal between the first and
second rings that caller hears over the phone, but that the CID box
receives the signal before the call recipient actually hears his first
ring (which is the second ring heard by the caller).  Lately when I've
been calling from line one to line two, I hear some sounds between the
first and second rings: two faint modem tones (one hi-pitched, then
one low-pitched), then what sounds like a faint brief burst of static.
I hear them when I call from line one to line two, but not when I call
from line two to line one.  I don't hear these tones when I call other
friends of mine who also have CID and *69 on their phones (when I call
from either line one or line two), but none of these people are
BellSouth customers.

I was not aware of these sounds until just recently (over the past two
weeks), but that doesn't mean they haven't been there longer.  I was
wondering if these noises are indicative of some special equipment the
teleco might have placed on my line for testing purposes because I
have been complaining about my RACF service?  Any thoughts or
suggestions out there?


Chris Telesca

------------------------------

Reply-To: <pcook@proctorinc.com>
From: Paul Cook <pcook@proctorinc.com>
Subject: NPA for Windows Update
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:08:49 -0800


No, Microsoft doesn't have its own area code ... yet.

The latest release for the highly useful shareware, NPA for Windows is
out.  This is the 11 Oct 97 version, with many new prefixes and area
codes since the July version.

Download it from http://www.pcconsultant.com/~robert/pcc

This program has location information for every exchange in the US and
Canada, and with the area code and prefix you can find out the name
location, whether it is a wireline or wireless prefix, the exact
latitude and longitude, the probable zip code (including a ranking if
you want it of multiple zip codes serving subscribers for that CO),
and the distance between exchanges in miles.


Paul Cook  *  pcook@proctorinc.com     ph: 425-881-7000
Proctor & Associates, Redmond, WA      fax: 425-885-3282
http://www.proctorinc.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For newer readers or for old-timers
who do not remember much about him, Paul Cook has been a regular
participant here for several years. His scripts are trustworthy and
and quite useful. The best part is the price! <grin>   PAT]  

------------------------------

From: Victor Yue <yuess@singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Newton Telecom Dictionary & Telecommunications Books
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:01:49 +0800


Hi,

In Volume 17: Issue 295 of TELECOM Digest, Robert mentioned about the
13th edition of Harry Newton's "Newton Telecom Dictionary".

I am interested in getting this updated Dictionary as well as other
Telecommunications reference books. Could you advise some sources?

Thank you and with best regards,


Victor Yue Seong Swee
34 Upper Cross St #15-168
Singapore 050034
SINGAPORE
Email: yuess@singnet.com.sg
http://www.singnet.com.sg/~yuess
Phone: +65 533-3177


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Victor, I think the best place to
stock up might be right at the source which is the mail order
book service Harry Newton operates in New York City. I think the
name is Telecom Library. Newton, an Australian who migrated to the 
USA a number of years ago and promptly gave the first real compe-
tition to {Telephony Magazine} in many years through his own
publication {Teleconnect} has operated a highly regarded mail order
telecom-related book service since the inception of his publication.
He is a regular reader here so I hope he or his staff will respond
to you soon with particulars. His dictionary is quite useful.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 97 04:06:36 -0700
Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom <joey@lindstrom.com>
Subject: Inuvik 4D Dialing


> Another interesting angle, though, would be local calls in Inuvik.
> Presumably they can still have permissive dialing of the local
> 979-xxxx or 777-xxxx numbers, assuming they have full toll alerting.
> If you dial 777-xxxx, you must mean (867) 777-xxxx, since otherwise
> you'd dial 1-403-777-xxxx; likewise, 979-xxxx must mean (403)
> 979-xxxx, since otherwise you'd dial 1-819- or 1-867-979-xxxx.  Then
> again, Inuvik is small enough that they might have local 4D
> dialing.

As of four years ago, they did.  A fellow I went to school with in
1993 came from there and I remember him mentioning that you needed to
dial only the final four digits for all local calls.  Whether or not this
is still the case I do not know.


 From:  The Desk Of Joey Lindstrom  +1 403-606-3853
 EMAIL: joey@lindstrom.com  numanoid@ab.imag.net  lindstrj@cadvision.com
 WEBB:  http://www.ab.imag.net/worldwidewebb/

------------------------------

From: Lance Veitch <veitchl@kbpnfs01.eskom.co.za>
Subject: Telephone Meter - Wanted
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:56:27 +0200
Organization: ESKOM - Koeberg Power Station


Hi,

I am looking for a device that can meter telephone calls and give a
printout/readout of each call made with its call_time/units/cost/
number_dialed.  The unit pulse will be supplied from the exchange
(post office) Any suggestions are welcome.


Regards,

Lance

------------------------------

End of TELECOM Digest V17 #299
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TELECOM Digest     Sun, 2 Nov 97 17:36:00 EST    Volume 17 : Issue 300

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: FCC Proposes V-Chip For Computers, From Time/Netly News (Ed Ellers)
    Re: FCC Proposes V-Chip For Computers, From Time/Netly News (M. Sullivan)
    Bellsouth Erroneously Billing Me - Help (Ron Schnell)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (Alan Boritz)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (oldbear@arctos.com)
    Re: Tower Site Leases (Marty Bose)
    Seattle Area Split (Babu Mengelepouti)
    Re: FBI Chief Calls For Computer Crime Crackdown (Tom Watson)
    Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Chris Telesca)
    Re: New York Times on Net Day (Dave Hughes)
    Re: Ringdowns and Other Non-Dialable Toll-Points (Ed Ellers)
    'Spam' Slayer Article in Philadelphia Inquirer (Fred Schimmel)

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From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@iname.com>
Subject: Re: FCC Proposes V-Chip For Computers, From Time/Netly News
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:43:42 -0500
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.


Monty Solomon wrote, quoting from a Netly News story:

> If you hated the idea of a V chip in your television, wait until you
> hear that the government wants to install one in your computer. TIME
> has learned that the FCC has proposed that new PCs be outfitted with a
> V chip to filter out video violence and sex. Still unclear is what Net
> broadcasts could be affected. The idea alarms free-speech advocates,
> who wonder why Americans need a Net-nanny."

This sounds like a *very* confused report.  What the FCC is proposing
is that the V-chip capability be required as part of PC TV tuners as
well as 13" or larger TV sets.  Right now PC TV tuners (cards or
otherwise) are not required to have closed captioning unless they are
bundled with a 13" or larger display, as per the FCC's captioning
rules; the Commission apparently doesn't want this "loophole" to also
apply to the V-chip.

------------------------------

From: Michael D. Sullivan <mds@access.digex.net>
Subject: Re: FCC Proposes V-Chip For Computers, From Time/Netly News
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 97 01:24:25 -0400
Organization: DIGEX, Inc.
Reply-To: Michael D. Sullivan <mds@access.digex.net>


This story is plain wrong.  The FCC has sought comment on whether
computers with TV cards designed to display standard TV signals should
have to implement V-chip just as regular TVs do.  This proposal has
nothing to do with computers interfacing with the Net.

According to the October 30 {Communications Daily}, the FCC claims
that the Federal Register summary of its proposal has been misread.


Michael D. Sullivan, Bethesda, Maryland, USA
mds@access.digex.net, avogadro@well.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 02:25:01 EST
From: Ron Schnell <ronnie@twitch.mit.edu>
Subject: Bellsouth Erroneously Billing Me - Help


When I moved ten miles from North Miami Beach, FL to Pembroke Pines, I
lost my grandfather status on my ISDN line, and could no-longer have
unmetered usage.  This made it very expensive to have my nailed-down
line.  My ISP offered to call me instead, since they are still
grandfathered.

All was working fine, but all of a sudden, Bellsouth says I have
40,000 minutes of usage this month.  Now, I know that I have not
screwed anything up, because my equipment is not configured to make
outgoing calls, and my provider isn't configured to accept incoming
calls from me.  Nonetheless, they don't believe me, and insist that I
pay the bill.  Granted, I have only just begun the process of working
up the Bellsouth hierarchy, but I was wondering if this has happened
to anyone else?  If not, can anyone think of how the equipment could
have screwed up?  The number they have for the outgoing calls they
allege I made is indeed the number of my provider.


Ron    ronnie@twitch.mit.edu

------------------------------

From: aboritz@CYBERNEX.NET (Alan Boritz)
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 23:56:08 -0500


In article <telecom17.297.12@telecom-digest.org>, Allison Hift
<hift@cobra.law.miami.edu> wrote:

> ...This Firm solely represents counties and cities in
> telecommunications matters.

> I am collecting information concerning tower site lease agreements
> throughout the United States so that I can assist a client of the
> Firm's in making an informed, intelligent decision.

Would that include Massachusetts municipalities that desire to lease
space to telecommunications carriers?  Would you know if the state,
and it's subdivisions, are legally permitted to do that (by the letter
of the law, that is)?

------------------------------

From: oldbear@arctos.com
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 10:00:00 GMT


Speaking from 25 years experiene in real estate investment management,
I see nothing wrong with looking for "comparables" for the purpose of
determining value.  It is done all the time in the real estate
industry for everything from appraisals for home mortgages to the
valuation of large commercial portfolios.  My experiences with telecom
and utility companies has been that their real estate departments are
equally experienced and sophisticated, and understand the process.

I was puzzled, in fact, by Marty's comment:

> On the average they would come back and request a new lease at 
> four to ten times the original lease, usually after construction 
> had started."

To this, I would ask why Marty's firm would start construction before
the lease was signed -- both for his own protection and for the
protection of his contractor.  (No sensible landlord would let a
contractor on site without evidence of insurance and indemnifications
so that the landlord would not be liable if someone were injured in
the construction process; and the contractor should want to be sure he
has authority to access the site and know his position if he has to
file a lien to collect his fees.)

Keep in mind that usually telecom companies enter into many, many 
leases for tower sites and for cable easements, etc.  They usually 
have well-crafted standard-form documents and procedures which 
cover their concerns and protect their interests.

On the other hand, the typical landlord sees very few telecom leases 
and is far less experienced in knowing the ins-and-outs of what to 
worry about.  (Interestingly, this turns the tables on the 
usual situation where landlords negotiate many leases but tenants
are only in the market once every several years -- kind of like the 
unequal negotiating skills of full-time automobile dealers and 
occassional car buyers.)

If Marty has his contractor on site before his documents are done, 
Marty's boss should take a hard look at the risks to which he is 
exposing his company.  Or possibly Marty is playing fast and lose 
with his contractor, rushing him onto the site without authority and 
then using partially completed construction as a ploy to intimidate 
a landlord into signing up or face having to litigate to get the 
semi-completed structure removed and his property restored. 


Cheers,

The Old Bear

------------------------------

From: Marty Bose <martyb@dnai.com>
Subject: Re: Tower Site Leases
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 14:00:00 GMT


> I take this opportunity to respond to the post by Marty Bose:

>> I'm disappointed to see TELECOM Digest publishing a troll request
>> like this one.  When I worked for a PCS carrier this was a typical
>> request from a lawyer trying to find a way for his client to bust
>> a lease that the owner had second thoughts about.  On the average
>> they would come back and request a new lease at four to ten times
>> the original lease, usually after construction had started. . .

> ... I, along with [my] Law Firm, pride myself on practicing fairly
> and ethically.  I do not appreciate you rude posting concerning my
> question.  I am collecting information concerning tower site lease
> agreements throughout the United States so that I can assist a client
> of the Firm's in making an informed, intelligent decision. . .

And, a response by oldbear@arctos.com which appears just before this
in this issue:

> Speaking from 25 years experiene in real estate investment management,
> I see nothing wrong with looking for "comparables" for the purpose of
> determining value.  It is done all the time in the real estate
> industry for everything from appraisals for home mortgages to
> the valuation of large commercial portfolios.  My experiences with
> telecom and utility companies has been that their real estate
> departments are equally experienced and sophisticated, and understand
> the process.

> I was puzzled, in fact, by Marty's comment:

> "On the average they would come back and request a new lease at
> four to ten times the original lease, usually after construction
> had started."

> To this, I would ask why Marty's firm would start construction before
> the lease was signed -- both for his own protection and for the
> protection of his contractor.  (No sensible landlord would let a
> contractor on site without evidence of insurance and indemnifications
> so that the landlord would not be liable if someone were injured in
> the construction process; and the contractor should want to be sure he
> has authority to access the site and know his position if he has to
> file a lien to collect his fees.)

We never started construction before we had signed leases and all
necessary approvals.  This usually happened after the owner had a
conversation with one of his counterparts and discovered that the
other guy got paid more.  Rarely would he take into account the many
variables incumbent in site pricing, he just knew he got less.

(snip)

> If Marty has his contractor on site before his documents are done,
> Marty's boss should take a hard look at the risks to which he is
> exposing his company.  Or possibly Marty is playing fast and lose
> with his contractor, rushing him onto the site without authority and
> then using partially completed construction as a ploy to intimidate
> a landlord into signing up or face having to litigate to get the
> semi-completed structure removed and his property restored.

As I said, this is an unfounded assertion that I take great offense at.

Marty

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 11:26:31 -0500
From: Babu Mengelepouti <dialtone@vcn.bc.ca>
Reply-To: dialtone@vcn.bc.ca
Organization: US Secret Service
Subject: Seattle Area Split


Michael Gutteridge <mikeg@spam.onyx.com> wrote: 


> (Seattle), 425 (Eastside and north end), and 253 (South King County).
> There is an additional layer of complexity in that they are implementing
> ten and eleven digit dialing, where some exchanges accross areacodes are
> dialable using solely ten digits, and some exchanges within the areacode
> require the full eleven digits.

> They way I understand it, this is because some calls are inter-carrier
> (ie, a call from USWest territory into GTE requires the eleven digits).

> Ok, that's assumption number one.  Is that correct?

No.  You are in Bellevue.  If you call anything that is local to
Bellevue (e.g. Bellevue, Redmond, Kirkland, Renton, Issaquah, North
Bend) that is in the 425 NPA, you can dial it with only seven digits.
You will note that (most of) Bellevue, Renton, and Issaquah are in
USWest, Kirkland and Redmond are in GTE, and North Bend is PTI.  But
you can still dial these calls with only seven digits as always.

But let's say that you want to call Woodinville or Bothell, long
distance calls within the 425 NPA.  Rather than dialling 1-206-NXX-XXXX
you will now dial 1-425-NXX-XXXX.  This is because I (and several
others) insisted to the Washington State Public Utilities Commission
that "one plus required always means toll."  

If you want to call over to Seattle, you dial 206 (note the absence of
a 1 because it's a local call) plus the number.  And, something that I
oppose the PUC ruling on, we're following the "Dallas model" where you
are not *allowed* to dial 1+ if the call is local.  I see no reason
why the call should not go through with 1+ dialled, I just don't want
1+ to be required on local calls, and I want it to always be required
on long distance ones.

> Now, given that, is there some reference table where I can look up the
> NPA/NXX combination and thereby determine what dialing scheme I need to
> use?  I've looked at the offerings from the TRA.  I suspect the data is
> buried somewhere in the LERG and/or NIPC.  I don't have enough knowledge
> to extract it, and the class on interpreting the LERG isn't offered
> until the day after the dialing plan goes mandatory!

You don't need the LERG for this.  USWest and GTE have both been putting
pamphlets in the mail for the past two months detailing the NXX's
affected by the split.  If you call 1-800-244-1111 USWest will be happy
to send you one; I live in 360 and they sent me one.

Basically anything that is local now remains local.  But if that local
number will fall in a new NPA, you need to dial the NPA first.  Nothing
in 253 is going to be local for you in Bellevue, so you can assume that
all 253 calls are 1+.  And most of 206 (with the exception of some
northern suburbs of Seattle like Edmonds) will be local.  Just keep
dialling 1+ for calls that are long distance, but switch NPA's from 206
to 425 if necessary.  Prepend 206 to calls that are on the west side of
Lake Washington if they are local.  And while you *can* prepend 425 to
local calls on the Eastside, and it's good practice to do so, it is not
required (you can still call Bellevue with seven digits).

An interesting note in relation to this: for quite awhile until I got
USWest to fix it, calls from the Glencourt CO in Bellevue (behind the
post office downtown) to numbers in the Sherwood CO (off Lake Hills
Blvd, serves the Lake Hills area and Eastgate) would *not* go through
with 425 prepended.  Finally, of all places to report it, translations
laughed and said "Oh, you can just call repair for that!"  Apparently
USWest repair, while located in "floating" offices in the Midwest (I've
gotten Des Moines, Minneapolis, and Omaha), can remotely print out a
trouble ticket in the affected CO.  So they printed a ticket for
Glencourt and the next day it was fixed.

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From: tsw@cagent.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Re: FBI Chief Calls For Computer Crime Crackdown
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1997 11:30:01 -0800
Organization: CagEnt, Inc.


In article <telecom17.298.1@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.COM wrote:

> FBI chief calls for computer crime crackdown

<<<deletia regarding the "initiative"

>             Freeh told the International Association of Chiefs of
> Police that software manufacturers should be required by law to
> include a feature that allows police to descramble encrypted
> communications.

>             ``It could take a $30 million supercomputer a year to
> figure out the simplest encrypted message without this feature,''
> Freeh said. ``And that message might be 'we have the victim and will
> kill him in an hour'.''
> 

The problem with all of this is that no computer can figure out what
the phrase "It's going to be a cloudy day tommorow" means if the
phrasing has been agreed upon in advance between two parties.  Simple
phrases like "The traffic is terrible here, but the light was green at
3rd and Main" could mean one thing, and "The traffic here is terrible,
but the red light at 5th and Grape was stuck".

Both of these phrases can be quite innocent and have real basis in
fact, but mean two different things.  Given the language, do we need
to supply the government with the decoding of all the double
entendrare we discuss in casual conversation.  My feeling is that this
is what the government is asking for.  Criminals have used cryptic
messages all the time, and it takes people quite some time to "decode"
them.  This has been done in the past even WITHOUT computers.

Computers have just made it easier.

In a conversation Ted Koppel had with another newsman, they discussed
an "ad-hoc" code relating to military maneuvers.  It related to
questions about "Beetle Bailey" and "Steve Canyon".  Get a computer to
decode that!!

Personally, if they just prosecuted all the "Make Money Fast" schemes
on the internet, it would go a pretty long way in my book!!


tsw@cagent.com         (Home: tsw@johana.com)
Please forward spam to: annagram@hr.house.gov (my Congressman), I do.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Nah, they are not going to do that. 
Louis Freeh and his Federal Bureau of Inquisition would never work on
the spammers for the simple reason that the spammers are accomplishing
more to wreck the net than any number of FBI agents could do. You have
to understand that law enforcement in general has a very strong dislike
for the Internet (as do many/most government agencies) simply because
of the speed with which everyday, average citizens are able to communicate
and exchange information. What government wants its citizens to be
able to do that?  Oh, they had to get in the loop along with everyone else;
like the newspapers on the one hand with their notoriously inaccurate
and mostly anti-net stories while still operating their own web pages
in the hopes of salvaging some of their circulation losses; but if the
federal government could put this whole net out of business tomorrow via
some judicial fiat or administrative ruling you bet they would do so.
In the meantime, the Spamfords pollute things so badly that more and
more people have simply turned away from things like Usenet news in
disgust. Same end results, but the government does not have to take
the blame for it. 

If Freeh, Janet Reno and others high in the ranks of law enforcement
want to make themselves useful, they might convene a meeting of police
officers, FBI agents and others of their ilk and advise them, "not
everyone who uses the Internet is trading pictures of naked children;
they are not kidnapping kids; using 'chat rooms' to have sex talk."
And while all the officers listened with wide eyes at these heretics
in their ranks who claim there are actually positive uses of the net,
Freeh, Reno and Company might continue by explaining that there are
a few (in their opinion) oddball citizens around who simply want to
be left alone to communicate in private. Scum to be sure, but then
aren't we all if we dare to express disagreement with law enforcement's 
stated objectives?     PAT]

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From: ctelesca@pagesz.net (Chris Telesca)
Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana?
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:16:17 -0500
Organization: Pagesz.net


In article <telecom17.298.7@telecom-digest.org>, fgoldstein@bbn.|
nospam.|com (Fred R. Goldstein) wrote:

> You can't get it from Medford because Medford (actually, the Malden
> CO) is still on an analog CO switch (1AESS).  NYNEX did not spend the
> serious money to upgrade its analog switches to have Signaling System
> 7, which is a prerequisite for Caller ID.  Instead, they (I'd say
> correctly, in this case) decided to just replace them all with digital
> switches before the deadline for mandatory SS7, which is 1-Jan-1998.
> So it will be replaced within the next two months.  Indeed, NYNEX
> scheduled several CO replacements for 31-December-1997!

> That won't solve the entire out-of-area problem.  While non-SS7 COs
> are one cause, there are others.  PBX trunks that terminate on what
> NYNEX called "Flexpath" (channelized T1), or on IXC switches, don't
> have Caller ID either.  That's because trunk side ports on CO switches
> don't have regular numbers.  They do have ANI numbers for billing, but
> ANI is not Caller ID.  (Analog switches have ANI too.  ANI lacks "*67"
> blocking capability, so it's not presented to sent-paid destinations,
> but it does go to 800 users, who are after all paying for the call.)
> We noticed this on our one residual Flexpath, whose outgoing calls
> were "out of area"; it was fixed by upgrading to ISDN PRI, which sends
> and receives Caller ID just fine.  Of course PRI is only available in
> a small percentage of former-NYNEX COs, so it's not as if most PBX
> users have a choice in the matter.  IXCs have PRI but no numbers to
> show.

Mr. Goldstein:

I was hoping that you could help me with some SS7 questions pertaining
to how and when I forward my calls using either Call-Forwarding from
my home or Remote-Access to Call-Forwarding from some line other than 
my own.

If you care to check DejaNews for previous posts under
ctelesca@pagesz.net and ctelesca@nccu.campus.mci.net and
ctelesca@ncsu.campus.mci.net, you will get an idea of the problems
I've been facing.  I've tried to get BellSouth (the teleco offering
the CF/RACF feature) to tell me how they handle and identify
toll-calls that were made because my phone was call-forwarded, but no
one at the teleco wants to tell me anything.  Do you know how SS7
lists or keeps track of Call-Forwarded calls?  Do you know how the
teleco engineers monitor Call-Forwarding activities?  Are you aware of
any websites that might have this information?  Any help you can offer
would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you,

Chris Telesca

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From: hicom@oldcolo.com (Dave Hughes)
Subject: Re: New York Times on Net Day
Date: 31 Oct 1997 03:16:01 GMT
Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.285.0194 Denver Colorado
Reply-To: hicom@oldcolo.com


In <telecom17.297.14@telecom-digest.org>, Kevin DeMartino
<KDeMartino@drc.com> writes:

> Thomas G. Spalthoff is right on target (V17 #293). The
> Internet is a great medium for communicating and accessing
> information, but it is not a silver bullet for our schools. Do we
> really need every classroom wired to the Internet, as President
> Clinton has suggested? Computer literacy is important, but it is not
> as important as literacy in English (and other languages).

I'll tell you here and now, any English teacher can and could, with a
combination of classroom computers and links to the Internet impart
more ENGLISH language literacy to a group of students, than the same
teacher with pencils, paper, and books over the same period of
time. And, at the same time, develop facility with forms of English
used online (which differs, when done well, as much from paper-written
forms as does the spoken word from the written text)

I proved that 14 years ago with Radio Shack and Osborne computers
accounts on the Source, and modem access to bulletin-boards. And some
college freshman instructors who took my course in 'Electronic
English' (and I don't mean word processing) demonstrated the same
thing.

That does not mean that all, or many, English teachers know how to
teach English using computers and networks. But give me 30 students in
a classroom with 15 networked computers with software of my choice,
you take 30 in a classroom with pencils, paper, and books of your
choice and after a school year, my students will wipe the floor with
your paper crowd, in spelling, grammar, puncutation, composition, and
general English Language literacy.

They will also be far more prepared to graduate to higher and more
subtle levels of computer and network use for further education or
movement directly into the workforce.

It is beyond me why the myth persists that reading and writing using
computers, and communicating via the Internet in written forms, is not
itself the use of the English language in ways so much more efficient
in the use of time, and the skills (or lack thereof, as in typing
skill) used in writing well, than relying on traditional paper and
pencils.


Dave Hughes  

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From: Ed Ellers <kd4awq@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Ringdowns and Other Non-Dialable Toll-Points
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 19:32:10 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.


The TELECOM Digest Editor noted:

> Does anyone around here remember the radio operator based in Alma,
> Quebec who handled all the traffic around the far northern fringes of
> that province until at least some time in the 1970's?  A couple
> hundred miles north of Quebec City on provincial highway 169, her
> duties were to maintain communication with such northern outposts as
> Inukjuak, Salvit and Deception, Quebec.

<snip>

> The Chicago operators were amazed that such a system existed. I asked
> Alma the distance being covered and the type of radio
> communication. She said it was AM (amplitude modulation) single
> sideband, and she ventured a guess that the point we were calling was
> 'several hundred miles north'. The other main radio station covering
> northern Quebec was located a bit to the west in the town of Val D'or,
> which operated in essentially the same way.  PAT]"

There are several out-of-the-way regions of the world where HF SSB
radio is about the only way to talk to the outside world at a
reasonable cost.  Quite a few Aussies reportedly use HF not only for
this but to reach the Royal Flying Doctor Service and/or for a
"classroom of the air" educational service.  There's still enough
demand for fixed HF worldwide that Kenwood, known for amateur and
marine radio as well as audio, makes a special simplified HF SSB
two-way radio for that market with fewer controls than a typical ham
HF rig would have.

Once satellite "cellular" systems like Iridium come into wide use I'd
expect this sort of thing to taper off in a hurry.

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From: Fred Schimmel <fws@Prodigy.Net>
Subject: 'Spam' Slayer Article in Philadelphia Inquirer
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 23:48:37 -0500
Organization: Prodigy Internet
Reply-To: fws@Prodigy.Net


After reading all the exploits of the Spam King and his troubles with 
his Internet providers over the last little while, maybe c.d.t readers
would enjoy the story of the 'Spam' slayer.

It can be seen at the following URL:

http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/97/Oct/30/tech.life/adop30.htm


Fred Schimmel 
fws@prodigy.net 

We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million
typewriters will eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.
				-- Robert Wilensky

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