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Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective (David Scott Lewis)
    WebTV: Problem With URLs; Remote Control Options (David Scott Lewis)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (R. Van Valkenburgh)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (Doug Sewell)

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From: David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org>
Subject: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective 
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 00:24:10 -0800
Organization: Recommendations.net (http://fab.stanford.edu)


Several days ago (last Tuesday and Wednesday, to be exact), I had the
opportunity to demo WebTV at the San Diego (Central County) Computer
City.  Over the two days I gave their unit, which has a live 'Net
connection, a helluva workout.

My conclusion is that WebTV FINALLY got it right!  Let me rephrase
that:  FINALLY somebody got it right ... and it is WebTV!

WebTV is so simple that it's elegant.  They've done a superb job with
just above everything.  Sure, it can't do some of the neat things
that we've come to expect, like frames.  But overall, it's what we've
all been waiting for; I'll go so far as to say that it may be exactly
what's needed to reach the mass audience of TV viewers that are not
particularly 'Net- or PC-savvy (and don't want to be).

I'm so jazzed by WebTV that I'm going to go and buy it, even though I
have access through a PC to PBI.  What I've done to make my surfing
really easy is to add links on my personal Excite Live! page
(http://live.excite.com).  Hence, my WebTV home page will become a jump-
station to numerous Internet marketing, advertising, and PR resources;
Fab, the Stanford AI Lab spin-off technology that I've been working
with for the past several months; over 200 international daily news-
papers; several search engines, including the new ProFusion
metasearcher, ZD Net, inquiry.com, et al; direct links to The New York
Times and The Los Angeles Times, et al; Sun Server (my favorite Sun 
Microsystems source); a couple of intranet pointers, since I'm doing 
some intranet consulting these days; NewsLinx, my favorite up-to-the-
minute Web info source; Web Commerce; my personal BusinessWire profile; 
and numerous other Web-based information sources, such as AnchorDesk, 
DQi (courtesy of DataQuest), FaulknerWeb, The San Jose Mercury News "A.M." 
news source, my personal c/net edition, PC Week, InfoWorld, Computer 
Reseller News, Web Week, @Computerworld, AgentNews, mobilis, Telecom A.M.,
Hyperstand, ...

Plus, I have instant access to my NewsTracker profiles on agents,
Internet trends, servers, venture capital, mobile computing, Web
design, animation, intranets, ...

Although WebTV does have the capability to receive e-mail, I still plan
to use my PC for e-mail correspondence.  However, for those that can
forward mail to other accounts (e.g., those in an Unix environment using
the .forward command), why not just go ahead and send copies of your
e-mail to your WebTV account?  This would be especially nice for those of 
us that receive lots of publications by e-mail, or for those that are 
subscribed to a lot of mailing lists.  (By last count, I receive at least 
a couple of dozen e-magazines.  It would be great to have my YPN, NewsTips,
Tipworlds, et al, forwarded to my WebTV account.)  Better yet, use USA.NET 
to have your mail viewable through ANY Web browser located ANYwhere AND
forwarded to a RadioMail/Wynd-type wireless access account AND a WebTV 
account. And don't worry, there are plenty of good, usable mail filters 
to help with routing.

I believe that it's time to refine the prevailing views on mass access
to the Web.  WebTV creates a new paradigm ... a paradigm that reaches out 
to over two hundred million potential users -- just like broadcast TV 
itself!  It will be fascinating to observe the adoption and diffusion 
patterns of this new Internet media outlet.

====================

ADDENDUM (POST-PURCHASE):

I bought my Sony WebTV black box on Tuesday night.  I got it up and
running in eight minutes.  Well, almost.

If you use an S-Video input, you better make sure you know how to set
your television to switch to it.  Personally, I had never used this 
option before. Also, my television, which is a 29" ProScan (Thompson), 
has two remotes: a master remote and a small, sleek remote (which is 
the one we always use; it looks like Voyager).  Of course, I soon 
discovered that the only way to access the S-Video input is through 
the master remote.  And, as fate would have it, the batteries had died!
Oh, well, this added about another 10 minutes (and some colorful 
language) to the sign-on process.

I've already used it for over 20 hours; I've had very little sleep 
over the past few days.  Here are some of my observations:

1) The best thing is the music while you wait to connect!  I like the
"Downtown" song, but a user can select from three other options.
However, there doesn't seem to be a way to change your option once it's 
selected.  Hence, you have been warned: Select your music choice very 
carefully; you might be stuck with it for a long, long time!  Now to 
more substantive issues.

2) First, I'll address e-mail (no pun intended).  Well, there's no 
blind carbon option.  For me, that's an important feature that they're
lacking. There's also no way to create lists.  And, it's not really 
easy to send regular carbons; the set-up is far more conducive to 
sending all recipients in the "To" header.  Fortunately, it is possible 
to add names to an address book.  Unfortunately, it is NOT possible to 
add names to your address book from e-mail that you've received.  It's 
also not possible to change your header.  That's bad news.  I am, for 
example, really sending this message from my Pacbell account, but most 
of you see this as coming from my IEEE address.  

Here's the problem:  

When I send a message from my WebTV account, message recipients that hit 
their "Reply" function will send their messages back to my WebTV account.
That means that I'll get WebTV replies only when I use my WebTV account.
That's definitely NOT cool.  I'd like to be able to designate my own 
e-mail and reply-to address.  I ALWAYS use a forwarding account, like my 
IEEE or ACM accounts, which is turn forward to my USA.NET account, which 
then explodes to my Pacbell and WebTV accounts.  Since the only place 
that I can store (and, for now, print) messages is with my Pacbell 
connection (which really sucks, by the way), I use my Pacbell account as 
my so-called "master" account.  But I can still view ALL of my messages 
through WebTV or through any browser anywhere in the world through my 
USA.NET account.  If I get RadioMail (or Wynd) ... or the MP 2000, I'll 
add forwarding to those accounts as well.  

So here's the scoop:  

Replies to messages that I send from my Pacbell and old Presence
accounts (yep, I actually have a couple of more Internet access
accounts, plus a CompuServe account) AND from my USA.NET account get
distributed to my PacBell account, my WebTV account, and my USA.NET
account.  That's very cool indeed.  But, those WebTV-originated
messages will receive replies only at my WebTV account.  That's NOT
cool; WebTV needs to fix this immediately!

Good news: It seems that most of the problems with WebTV, not just their
e-mail limitations, can be solved with a software solution that doesn't
require any equipment modifications by the customer.  Oh, I can see a
need to replace the keyboard or remote every few years as new function
keys are added.  And we'll need to buy WebTV "Smart Card" peripherals
as they become available.  But, overall, it seems to be an EXTREMELY low
maintenance piece of equipment.  Conceptually, it's a good model to
support the cause of NCs vs. PCs ... but I don't want to get on this
topic; it's almost like a religious war between Unix and MS Windows.

3) More on e-mail.  You can't reply to individual portions of a message.
That can make things a bit awkward.  And changing the "Subject" field is
a bit cumbersome as well, but it's doable.  BTW, the "Reply" function
does NOT allow an option to include the original message; you have to do
that through the "Forward" function.  Hmmm.  Web documents are easy to
forward/transmit from WebTV, but they do NOT include the entire
document, only the link.  That's a real bummer.  

Since I use Navigator Mail (Go Netscape!), I'm spoiled by the fact
that I can receive Web pages and view them in their full glory in my
Navigator Mail account.  (For the record, for those of you using
primitive e-mail systems, you can view Web documents that are sent to
you as e-mail in their full glory via a USA.NET account.)  OTOH, Web
pages sent as e-mail to a WebTV account CAN be viewed in their full
glory via WebTV, although I find that it looks much better when I
simply click on the link and thereby take advantage of a full screen,
versus a smaller e-mail viewing screen.  

A big question for many might be about data input (or shall I be
quaint and call it "typing").  The Sony keyboard is terrific.  I'm not
sure what kind of IR they're using; I didn't check the spec.  I get
the impression that it's a line-of-sight IR.  I would have been
happier with a diffuse IR link.  But, overall, it seems to work fine.
It's a very light keyboard and very well designed, IMHO.  Data entry
through the remote control is a snap.  Well, maybe not a snap.  But
it's okay for enterings URLs and the like.  Users have an option to
choose between an ordered keyboard (i.e., "ABCDEFG ...") or a Qwerty
keyboard for their onscreen keyboard.  (Don't worry, the "real"
keyboard is a Qwerty keyboard.)  The onscreen keyboard needs to go
through a few iterations.  For example, they need to add the major
hierarchies as one-click entries; it's silly for me to have to type
the letters c-o-m or e-d-u all the time.  Also, a one-click input for
w-w-w would be nice, just to save a bit of time.  They also need to
add their "Continue" key and "."  key to a couple of more locations on
their onscreen keyboard.

4) Viewing.  Viewing can be a bit annoying.  The output tends to be
rather bright.  Sure, I might be able to adjust the contrast on my
television set, but that would (or should) impact by regular television
or videotape viewing quality.  I'm not sure what WebTV can do about
this.  Hmmm.  They can probably change the background to be slightly
off-white ... versus the GLARING WHITE SCREEN that I get on most Web
pages.

5) Bookmarks.  Their bookmarks are called "Favorites".  They're easy
to access from the keyboard by hitting the "Favs" key.  Hey, that's
easy!  On the remote, they can be accessed through a two key input
process: "Home" and then moving over one space and clicking on
"Favorites".  Easy.  Very easy.  I don't know if they have a limit, but 
I wouldn't push it.  Each "favorite" shows up as a first-screen icon; 
hence, they tend to be a bit large.  It would be nice if WebTV allowed 
a text-only display option.  

To aid in my surfing journeys, I selected my extensive Excite Live!
page as my first favorite.  From there, I can go just about anywhere.
(BTW, Excite Live! does have limitations.  For example, only so many
links can be added to each category.  Hence, my categories don't have
much resemblance to the links that they contain.  That's a silly
limitation on the part of Excite Live!  After all, I'm getting the
same number of links, but now I have to put them in separate
categories that don't correspond to the links ... just so I can have
all (or most) of the links that I want.)

6) More on "Favorites".  My second and third favorites are AltaVista
and InfoSeek Ultraseek.  I've added the dailies that I MUST read to
my "Favorites" page.  Hey, here's something quirky.  It is now NOT
possible to name the "Favorites"; it's necessary to accept the default.
That, too, is a bit silly.  For example, my Ad Age Interactive Daily
"Favorite" has the date of the first issue that I used as my "Favorite"
input. Also, a couple of my favorites have titles that don't really
suggest what they're about.  I should be able to override the HTML
"Title" defaults and use my own titles.  Overall, though, their 
"Favorites" are efficient.  BTW, you can't use a "Favorite" as your 
home page.  The home page defaults to a page offering a menu for e-mail, 
favorites, explore (which is like Yahoo!, of sorts), and search.

7) Last item on "Favorites".  Their system has a built-in list of
bookmarks.  I deleted all of them.  Except one.  Keep their "JumpCity"
bookmark.  "JumpCity" kind of works like VCR-Plus.  The Sony unit
comes with a 472 page book describing all sorts of Web sites.  It reads
a lot like a Wolff book, e.g., NetGuide/YPN.  The book evidently shows
the home page for each described item.  That's good and bad.  Sometimes
it's a bit much visually.  But, overall, it's a GREAT book, especially
for newbies.  Here's why.  With a simple four-digit input, which is
easy to do with the remote (although it's another example as to why
the "Continue" function needs to be added to a couple of more places on
their onscreen keyboard), it's possible to go to thousands of sites.
Okay, for those of us that have lived on the Web for any reasonable
length of time, it's simply a cute feature.  But for newbies, it's
a TERRIFIC idea.  Good job!  I haven't checked the printed guide for
political correctness, but it seems to have a lot of key sites.

8) More on e-mail.  When a user first gets on, the system lets them
know how many new messages they have.  And it does this for all
accounts.  (See the next paragraph.)  The system also beeps when new 
mail is received.  Those are nice, albeit standard features that many 
of us are already getting.

9) Multiple accounts.  You can set-up multiple accounts, each with their
own favorites.  I've set up accounts for myself (thewebguy@webtv.net),
my fiancee (thewebgal@webtv.net), and my daughter (thewebkid@webtv.net).
My daughter, who is slightly over three, doesn't receive too much
e-mail, so I haven't done to much with her settings.  My fiancee is in 
Europe on business this week, so she can arrange her own "Favorites" when 
she returns.  However, both of our USA.NET accounts forward to our WebTV
account, so she's already getting mail at her WebTV account ... even
though she hasn't been around since I purchased the Sony unit.

10) Last observation (also about e-mail).  Deleting messages is a VERY
SLOOOOOW process.  WebTV should, at the very least, have a checkmark and
delete function (and a trash function as a back-up, but with automatic
trash disposal since they probably don't want to keep an overabundance
of someone's e-mail on their server/s).  This, too, is a standard feature
on some e-mail systems.  Even USA.NET has this.  Oh, and WebTV e-mail 
does NOT have filtering capabilities, nor does it have sorting 
capabilities.

11) Image maps.  Oh, boy!  They're not easy to navigate with either the
remote or keyboard.  And without a hardware change, I don't see an
easy solution.  If you absolutely must deal with a torrent of image maps,
then WebTV is not YET for you.  Yet, for all practical purposes, I don't
find the arrow-key based navigation too cumbersome.  Bottom line:  It's
fine, at least for the next year or so.

Overall, WebTV is GREAT!  I love it!  The WebTV folks still have a lot
to do ... probably a lot of job opportunities for programmers.
RealAudio is key, as is some sort of streaming video.  The logical choice 
seems to be VDOlive, but they should see what they can do with VXtreme,
Xing, Vivo, ...  Speech synthesis would also be nice.  (Speech 
recognition would be great, but that would require a significant change 
in their hardware.)  When I mean speech synthesis, I'm really talking 
about TTS -- text-to-speech.  (My fiancee is in this area; she can be 
reached at thewebgal@usa.net, which, as I stated earlier, will forward 
to her WebTV and her personal Earthlink accounts.  But, she can review 
mail while in Europe via her USA.NET account ... accessible through over 
1,000 cybercafes worldwide!  The firm that she's with was touted by guru
Amy Wohl during the recent COMDEX as providing _the_ view into our 
computing futures.)


Happy Holidays!

David Scott Lewis
d.s.lewis@ieee.org

For further discussion, see
http://www.webtv.net/HTML/home.yankelovich.html

P.S. -- I have a couple of more observations about WebTV.  They both
relate specifically to optimizing for WebTV.

Assuming the WebTV phenomenon catches on (and it will, even if WebTV
does NOT prevail as the lead player), it might be very wise to
have so-called "Designed for WebTV" pages and sites.  (Call it what
you will; you get my point.)  Let their servers handle the tough
stuff, but take advantage of everything that can be optimized via 
their servers.

Also, it might be important to rethink e-mail for WebTV.  Hah, not
so obvious of a problem, but a problem indeed!  Hitting hard returns
is generally a good practice, but it can really chop up WebTV e-mail.
Yet, the WebTV screen leads to itty-bitty columns.  I'd like to see
WebTV come up with a solution from their end, but in the interim,
if I were offering a text-based e-mail service, I'd be very careful
about how things look on WebTV.  That's especially important for
consumer-oriented sites, like the portfolio companies with idealab!

Are you listening, WebTV?

FINAL COMMENT (NO KIDDING):

In response to my "Are you listening, WebTV?" question, I received a
timely reply from WebTV:  "We are listening."  Good for them!

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org>
Subject: WebTV: Problem with URLs; Remote Control Options
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 10:34:52 -0800
Organization: Recommendations.net (http://fab.stanford.edu)


I ran into this problem when I first started using my Web TV unit last
Tuesday night, but I forgot to comment about it in my postings.
However, it just came back to light a few minutes ago.

A feature they need to add is a way to view URLs and manipulate URLs.
For example, if I find a bad URL, I'll usually try to truncate the URL
and see what I can get.  More often than not, that seems to work
 ... or at least help.  But URLs are NOT displayed and can't be manipu-
lated from the "Location" position.  Matter of fact, the only time a
user can directly manipulate a URL is during the "Go To" input.
That's too little user control.

Here's a real example of this limitation:

A little while ago I wanted to add Seidman's newsletter to my Excite
Live! home page.  I used to get Seidman's, but it seemed like it fell
off the face of the earth, just like my old e-newsletter/e-magazine!  :-(...

Anyway, I couldn't add Seidman's new URL to my Excite Live! through
WebTV.  There is simply no way to copy and paste the URL.  Hence, I
had to go to my highly unreliable PacBell account to do the
appropriate manipulations.  (BTW, I beat up on Pacbell, but I really
have a soft spot for them.  After all, it was old Web design firm,
Presence Information Design, that was the lead contractor on their
"AtHand" site.  That's why I'm STILL sticking with them.  I hope they
solve their problems, although I'm starting to lose all hope.)

So for me, it's a pain to have to go to my PacBell account to do some
basic functions that I can't do with my WebTV account.  However, for a
lot of people that may get WebTV and NOT have any other accounts, it's
an unacceptable limitation.

Remember, I really love WebTV.  In some ways, I view myself as their
third-party/user evangelist.  However, I don't want to pull my
punches.  Once again, this is a problem WebTV could fix from their
side.  And, it shouldn't be too difficult to fix.

Another suggestion (but much less important): "Favs" should be an
advanced option through the remote control "Options" command.  Yep, it
saves only one step, but in general, a lot of the keyboard
one-function keys should be accessible as advanced options through the
remote control "Options" command.  That should be VERY SIMPLE to
implement.  Have a default settings/reset for newbies that get too
crazy and too confused.  But after a while, it should be very easy
(and make sense) for most WebTV users (or are they "viewers"?) to add
some additional options.


David Scott Lewis
Recommendations.net
d.s.lewis@ieee.org

For the record (and for the accolades), they're:
John Lee, Corporate Evangelist,
  evangelist@corp.webtv.net  or  jlee@webtv.net
Chris White, MTS,
  casper@webtv.net

Good customer service, guys!

------------------------------

From: vanvalk@auburn.campus.MCI.net (R. Van Valkenburgh)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 01:49:05 GMT
Organization: auburn.campus.MCI.net
Reply-To: vanvalk@auburn.campus.MCI.net


That's a very funny story, I think.  I must say that I've gotten to
where I prefer salesman who know nothing about their product, than
salesmen who know just enough to be able to insert a few good lies.

------------------------------

From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 7 Dec 1996 12:46:23 -0500
Organization: Youngstown State University


Thus spake Dave Sieg  <dave@tricon.net>:

> I had an interesting phone call from a guy who had bought one of the
> "WebTV" boxes.  It sits on the top of the TV and hooks to a phone
> line, allowing "unlimited Internet Access" for only $19.95/month".

I tried WebTV at Sears recently to bring up my home page.  It was
"painfully slow" - comparable to Netscape at 2400 baud.

<big bobbitt>

> But it would make sense for WebTV to allow a local ISP to be THE 
> provider in areas where they don't have POP's.  Nope, can't be done.
> Apparently, they use some proprietery encryption scheme, and are 
> making big plans for people to conduct all kinds of business solely
> through their ISP.

Another proprietary scheme.  A pox upon them.

Incidentally, my home page -- which is pretty ordinary -- had a .wav
sound clip on it, and WebTV couldn't deal with that at all.  I don't
know if it supports any other type of sound files.  It handled forms,
however.

I didn't bother to check my web server to see what the browser looked
like to it.  I'd suspect that many of the newer web browser features
aren't supported, perhaps I'll have to head out to Sears again today
and try it ...


Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) (http://cc.ysu.edu/~doug/)

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 03:16:54 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Supreme Court To Hear CDA Case
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


  Begin forwarded message:

  Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:10:22 -0700
  From: --Todd Lappin-- <telstar@wired.com>
  Subject: FLASH: Supreme Court To Hear CDA Case

Salutations!

Great news today from Washington DC ... the Supreme Court has
officially announced that they will hear the US government's appeal of
the recent lawsuits blocking enforcement of the Communications Decency
Act.  The judges are expected to hear the case in April, with a
decision following a few months later.

As Jerry Berman, Executive Director of the Center for Democracy and
Technology, says in the Trial Bulletin, "This case will determine the
future of free expression in the information age, and is the most
important first amendment case before the court in recent memory."

(For background on why we're optimistic the Supreme Court will deliver
a favorable runing on the CDA case, check out Mike Godwin's excellent
analysis at: http://www.hotwired.com/wired/4.09/cyber.rights.html.)

Stay tuned for further updates, and of course ...

Work the network!

--Todd Lappin-->
Section Editor
WIRED Magazine

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        Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition Update No. 16
                          December 6, 1996
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                        ciec-info@cdt.org
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   CIEC UPDATES are intended for members of the Citizens Internet
   Empowerment Coalition. CIEC Updates are written and edited by the
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          ** 55,000 Netizens Vs. U.S. Department of Justice. **
                 * The Fight To Save Free Speech Online *

  Contents:

  o Supreme Court Agrees to Hear CDA Challenge
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

SUPREME COURT AGREES TO HEAR LANDMARK CASE TO DETERMINE FUTURE OF FREE
SPEECH IN CYBERSAPCE

The United States Supreme Court today agreed to hear the government's
appeal of a landmark legal challenge to the Communications Decency Act.
The case, which will determine the future of freedom of speech in
cyberspace, is expected to be heard in March or April. A special panel of
federal judges in Philadelphia ruled the CDA unconstitutional in June.

The Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition (CIEC), which brought a
successful challenge to the CDA earlier this year, applauded the courts
decision to hear the case.

"This case will determine the future of free expression in the information
age, and is the most important first amendment case before the court in
recent memory."  said Jerry Berman, Executive Director of the Center for
Democracy and Technology  (CDT) and one of the organizers of the CIEC.
"The lower court ruled unequivocally, based on a solid factual record, that
the CDA was unconstitutional," Berman added, "and we believe the Supreme
Court will agree with them upon review."

The CIEC is a broad coalition of groups concerned about the future of the
Internet, including on-line service and Internet service providers,
libraries, book, magazine, newspaper and music publishers, software
companies, public interest organizations, and more than 55,000 individual
Internet users.  The lead plaintiff in the case is the American Library
Association.

The Philadelphia court ruled the CDA unconstitutional in June, agreeing
with the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition's arguments that:

* The Internet is a unique communications medium that deserves free
  speech protection at least as broad as that enjoyed by print medium.

* Individual users and parents  -- not the government -- should decide what
  material is appropriate for their children, and;

* Simple, inexpensive user empowerment technology is a very effective and
  constitutional way of limiting the access of minors to inappropriate
  material on the Internet.

The CIEC challenge, also known as ALA v DOJ, was consolidated with a
separate lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and 20
other plaintiffs, ACLU v. Reno.  The cases were argued together before
the three-judge federal panel in Philadelphia last spring, and the
legal teams continue to work together as co-plaintiffs in the Supreme
Court phase.

The Communications Decency Act (CDA), passed by Congress in February
1996 for the first time imposed far reaching broadcast-style content
regulations on the Internet.

The full text of the Philadelphia ruling and other information on the
case can be found on the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition Web
Page (http://www.cdt.org/ciec/). Please also visit the CIEC web page
for the latest news and information about the case.

The 27 plaintiffs in the case include: American Library Association,
Inc.; America Online, Inc.; American Booksellers Association, Inc.;
American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression; American Society
of Newspaper Editors; Apple Computer, Inc.; Association of American
Publishers, Inc.; Association of Publishers, Editors and Writers;
Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition; Commercial Internet eXchange;
CompuServe Incorporated.; Families Against Internet Censorship;
Freedom to Read Foundation, Inc.; Health Sciences Libraries
Consortium; HotWired Ventures LLC; Interactive Digital Software
Association; Interactive Services Association; Magazine Publishers of
America, Inc.; Microsoft Corporation; Microsoft Network; National
Press Photographers Association; NETCOM On-Line Communication
Services, Inc.; Newspaper Association of America; Opnet, Inc.; Prodigy
Services Company; Wired Ventures, Ltd.; and, the Society of
Professional Journalists Ltd.

WHAT YOU CAN DO -- JOIN THE CITIZENS INTERNET EMPOWERMENT COALITION

If you use the Internet to send email, post to usenet newsgroups,
maintain your own world wide web page, or participate in online
discussion forums, you could face serious prison time and huge fines
under the CDA if someone, somewhere, considers the material you put
online to be "indecent" or "patently offensive".

Since February of 1996, more than 55,000 individual Internet Users
have joined the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition.  The large
number of individual Internet users is intended to illustrate to the
Court, the press, and the public that each and every Internet user is
a publisher and cold be liable under the CDA.

If you haven't done so already, please take a moment to become a part
of this landmark case:

Visit the CIEC web site for details -- http://www.cdt.org/ciec/

It's fast, it's free, and it will help us preserve the future of the
Internet as a viable means of free expression, education, and
commerce.

For More Information

For more information on the CIEC challenge, including the text of the
original complaint filed in early '96 and other relevant materials:

* World Wide Web                      --        http://www.cdt.org/ciec/
* General Information about CIEC      --        ciec-info@cdt.org
* Copy of the Original Complaint      --        ciec-docs@cdt.org

* Specific Questions Regarding the
  Coalition, including Press Inquiries --       ciec@cdt.org

* General information about the
  Center for Democracy and Technology --        info@cdt.org

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 03:18:51 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


 Begin forwarded message:

 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:21:07 -0700
 From: --Todd Lappin-- <telstar@wired.com>
 Subject: OPPOSITION: FRC on Supreme Court News

We're not the only ones who are excited about the pending Supreme Court
case on the constitutionality of the Communications Decency Act.

Turns out, the CDA's proponents are also looking forward to having
their day in court.

The following press release from the Family Research Council gives
their side of the story, complete with Cathy Cleaver's usual rantings
about the dangers of online smut.

Remember ... despite what the FRC says, "indecency" is NOT a synonym for
pornography.

Work the Network!

--Todd Lappin-->
Section Editor
WIRED Magazine


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Dec. 6, 1996
CONTACT: Kristi S. Hamrick, (202) 393-2100
         For Radio, Kristin Hansen

SUPREME COURT TO REVIEW COMPUTER PORN RULING

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Supreme Court announced Friday that it will
review the Reno v. ACLU decision to enjoin the Communications Decency
Act made earlier this year by a three-judge panel in Philadelphia.

Family Research Council Director of Legal Studies Cathy Cleaver said
that the Department of Justice's appeal of the Philadelphia ruling is
the right thing to do, and that now the Supreme Court has the
opportunity to "reverse the radical ruling which gave Bob Guccione the
right to give his Penthouse magazine to our children on the Internet."

Cleaver continued, "Laws against selling porn magazines to kids are
not unconstitutional.  Why should we have to tolerate the same
degrading images of women being given to those same kids on-line?"

Family Research Council presented a "friend of the court" brief with
the Philadelphia judges in ACLU v. Reno defending the cyberporn
provisions of the Communications Decency Act.  Cleaver said the
Philadelphia decision contradicts previous Supreme Court decisions on
the distribution of indecent material through the media.

The Communications Decency Act:

* Prohibits adults from using a computer to send indecent
pornography directly to a known child;

* Prohibits adults from knowingly displaying indecent
pornography to children;

* Defines "indecent material" as material, which in context,
depicts or describes sexual or excretory activities or organs
in a patently offensive manner;

* Imposes fines, prison sentences (up to 2 years), or both on
violators;

* Exempts those who merely provide access to a network or
system over which they have no control;

* Provides limited defenses for employers and those who make a
reasonable and effective effort to restrict children's access
to pornography;

* Expands telephone harassment prohibitions to include harassment by
computer.

Arguments will likely be heard in early spring.  Family Research
Council and other pro-family and anti-pornography groups will be
filing briefs in support of the Justice Department's defense of the
law.

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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I in general support the CDA although
I see some problems with the way it is written  and wish that instead
of having the Supreme Court get involved this 'coalition' of Internet
users and the other named organizations would get off their high horses,
quit their scare tactics (i.e. 'you will go to prison if ...') and
work with organizations like FCR to develop reasonable guidelines to
satisfy everyone or nearly everyone.

There *are* technical solutions to the problems FRC sees with the net,
and there are relatively easy ways to implement some changes which
ought to appease FRC while at the same time posing little or no addi-
tional burden on the net. We do have to co-exist with the rest of the
world you know. Other people have a right to use the net also, you
know. That may come as a complete surprise to the folks at the ACLU
and all the librarians, but other users of the net actually have the
right to enjoy the web and not have to worry about their kids getting
into territories they should stay out of. 

To take the reasoning of the ACLU, the librarians and other opponents of
CDA to its logical conclusion, we should never have any laws forbidding
children to be served in taverns because parents should have to be
totally responsible for where their children go. We should not have
any laws against selling cigarettes to minors because it is too hard
to enforce, there will always be kids getting around the law and
anyway, the parents should be the only ones to decide. It would cause
a burden on the merchants who sell beer and cigarettes. We should never
have any laws governing the interaction of children and adults at
all because after all, some kids and/or adults will always find a
way around it; enforcement will be difficult and unfair at times, and
parents should be the only ones to decide. 

What was really insulting in the earlier litigation regards CDA was
how the ACLU instructed their witnesses to just get up in court and
lie about the technical aspects of the net, making all those outlandish
claims about the technical difficulties involved in affording some
modicum of policing. I assume they figured the judges would not know
any better. The point is they don't want any policing. They want to
be free to shove a bunch of ignorant and crappy newsgroups and web
pages down everyone else's throat. That, plus their scare tactics and
distortions of what CDA is all about has really turned off a lot of
people to their cause. I hope the Supreme Court will permit truly
independent -- i.e. unbigoted, and without any agenda -- internet
experts to advise it in this matter before ruling. No ACLU'ers, no
Socially Responsible computerists, no one with an axe to grind.

The ACLU of course will object strenuously to any independent experts
getting involved, just as they did in Philadelphia. The Court will
hear all this malarkey about how impossible it is to control anything
that anyone does here and how some poor innocent old-maid librarian
in a children's library will wind up in prison for life because some
web page or search engine lookup somewhere had a cuss word in it, etc. 

I hope this does not turn out to be a situation where 'a battle is
won but the war was lost'. I see some real problems with CDA as it
is written, but I can sympathize with the views expressed by its
proponents as well, and frankly, the intellectual dishonesty (and
I will suggest) fraud perpetrated on the Court by the opponents of
CDA in Philadelphia almost has me to the point I hope CDA is ruled 
to be constitutional.  Honestly, I wish Monty Solomon and others 
would quit sending me this junk-email ... and that is what it is.
All it does is make me more angry each time I read it.   PAT]  

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From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Subject: Payphone Prices for 0+ and 800/888 Calls
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:49:34 GMT


In recent discussions on this subject, at least one writer has
complained of the inconvenience of requiring a coin deposit to make
a toll-free call from a payphone.  This is not what is happening.
Under the FCC's Payphone Report and Order, it is the long distance
carrier who is paid for the toll-free call by the recipient who is
required to pay the payphone owner.  The calling party is not
required to deposit coins into the phone.

Other writers have pointed at the differences between customer-owned
and utility-owned payphones.  That difference is going away, for all
practical purposes, in April of 1997.  The local exchange carriers
will be required to operate their public telephones through
unregulated, unsubsidized entities.  With this change, virtually all
payphones will be required to pay their own way, without subsidies
from regulated ratepayers.  The arguments which apply to COCOTs will
also apply to LEC-owned phones when this happens.

Today, when a caller at a utility-owned payphone calls an 800
number, the IXC who carries the call pays termination charges and
CCL (carrier common line) charges to the LEC at the originating
end.  Part of this charge subsidizes the payphone.  When the same
caller uses a privately-owned payohone, the IXC still pays the LEC,
but none of that payment subsidizes the payphone.  After April, the
same will be true for the call using a utility-owned payphone, if no
other changes were being made.

COCOT's today sell local calls at nearly break-even prices.  This
is because the local sent-paid rate is usually set by local
regulations which are based upon subsidies to payphones from other
services offered by exchange carriers.  A typical outdoor payphone
on a city street carries about 60% local calls which produce a
minimal profit for the payphone owner.  Another 20-25% of calls are
to toll-free numbers, and these produce no revenue at all.  Another
15-20% or so are long-distance sent-paid calls.  These are the calls
that cover the fixed costs of operating the payphone (local access,
insurance, maintenance, etc).  So where does the payphone operator
obtain any real profit?  From the 2-3% of the traffic which is
dialed as 0+.  This traffic is often routed to an AOS who imposes a
surcharge.

The problem is that 98% of the traffic is operating at a loss or at
break-even revenue, and 2% of the traffic must generate all of the
return on the payphone owner's investment.  That leads to
unreasonably high prices for the 0+ traffic.

The recent FCC action will eventually lead to deregulated sent-paid
rates, and to compensation for the toll-free traffic.  Pending
action at the FCC and in many states may limit the prices charged for
0+ traffic at payphones.  The eventual result is that some of the
traffic which was not paying its way will.  Another result is that
the justification for unreasonably high 0+ rates will go away.


Dave Levenson		Internet: dave@westmark.com
Westmark, Inc.		UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave
Stirling, NJ, USA	Voice: 908 647 0900  Fax: 908 647 6857

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From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Subject: Re: Area Code Splits - Why?
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:57:28 GMT


Eric Bohlman (ebohlman@netcom.com) writes:

> Assuming that the customer just needs several separate *numbers*
> (rather than the ability to handle several *calls* at the same time),
> $100-$200 would be less than the yearly cost of 5 or more lines.

But the original subject of this thread was somebody's objection to
splitting area codes.  Additional numbers, whether or not they
involve additional lines, is what evenually leads to number space
exhaustion, and area-code splits, no?

> Another thing that could relieve number congestion: a lot of
> residential customers get a line solely for modem use, and it's almost
> always used purely for outgoing calls.  Why should such a line need a
> number at all?  Why can't the LECs offer an "anonymous" outgoing-only
> line?

That would save space in the area code.  But what would such a line
deliver for Caller*ID?


Dave Levenson		Internet: dave@westmark.com
Westmark, Inc.		UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave
Stirling, NJ, USA	Voice: 908 647 0900  Fax: 908 647 6857

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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 18:34:23 MST
From: lclee@primenet.com (Larry Lee)
Subject: Re: Area Code Splits - Why?


At 12:47 PM 12/1/96 -0800, rlm@helen.surfcty.com wrote:

> On 28 Nov 1996 10:51:01 PDT, lclee@primenet.com (Larry Lee) said:

>> If the phone company would extend DID into standard analog voice
>> lines, then we could go to Radio Shack and buy an extremely stupid
>> telehone switch ($100-$200 range) which would accept an additional
>> digit and route the call to 1 of 9 extensions (leaving extension 0 as
>> a default).  This would allow homes/small businesses to have 10
>> separate phone numbers with little to no phone company participation
>> in digits. I'm sure that popular conventions would arise such as 9 is
>> a fax, 8 is the answering machine, etc.

>> What's wrong with this scheme?  Why are things being done this way?

> Do you mean to force people to buy $100-200 worth of hardware if they
> want additional phone lines?  How would the lines be delivered?  Doesn't
> analog DID require a trunk bundle to be hauled to the customer?  Who
> and in what manner is this to be paid for?

Well let's say that basic phone service costs $20/mo and the phone
company would charge an additional $5/mo to have the extra digit
delivered to your house.

You certainly have the right to have two separate phone lines at
$40/mo or you can pay $25/mo plus a one time cost of $200 and every
person in the house will get their own phone number.

I just thought it was a service that would be a natural sell, but no
I don't want to 'force' anybody to do anything.


Larry

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From: genie@panix.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: Area Code Woes
Date: 7 Dec 1996 22:59:31 -0500
Organization: Dueling Modems http://www.dm.net/
Reply-To: genie@panix.com


In <telecom16.650.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu> Joel Upchurch <upchurch@
bellsouth.net> writes:

> I suspect that there may be real world financial consequences, such
> as loan elgibility or insurance rates that could be effected by
> living in an 'undesirable' zip code.

Insurance companies and underwriters use the ZIP+4 and TIGER Census
data, along with their own claims experience, and the Equifax
insurance claims clearinghouse database, to segment their insurance to
a quite detailed level.  A person who lives in 32308 (my zip code)
might have significantly higher comprehensive insurance rates because
the theft and damage claims experience in their neighborhood, as
defined by their ZIP+4, is much higher than in mine.


Andrew Finkenstadt, The Printing House Ltd, Also a GEnie Sysop

"If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z.  X is work, Y is play.
Z is keep your mouth shut.  -- Albert Einstein"

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From: Rey Hinckley <hinckley@premier.net>
Subject: Re: Area Code Woes
Date: 7 Dec 1996 06:08:20 GMT
Organization: Premier One


The problem with area codes versus Zip codes is that using
alphanumeric addresses is not as limited as numeric only numbers.
Every area code can theatrically support from 200 to 999 (800) Central
office codes with 10,000 xxxx numbers.  Unless we start putting more
unique digits on the phone, we have to split or overlay and area with
duplicate phone numbers requiring another area code. Zip Codes are not
as limited.  The postal service came out with the Zip + 4 digits which
makes zip codes almost as long as the telephone number, but with the
exception of Post Office boxes, you can't be sure that there is one
household to a zip+4 number.

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From: hick@pobox.co.uk (gARetH baBB)
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines
Reply-To: hick@pobox.co.uk
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 16:39:38 GMT
Organization: Gink


In article <telecom16.643.2@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, 0006540276@mcimail.
com (Tim Dillman) wrote:

> and he brought up the wildest idea I have heard yet.  It seems that
> the public utilities are using power lines as the transmission media
> for internal ethernet transmissions (or so he said).  I was very
> skeptical about this notion but managed a smile and nod when my
> customer told me of this, but sill I wonder ...

Alot of my calls go via Energis, which is a company in the UK owned by
the National Grid. They have fibre wrapped round the earth cable of
power lines going all over the place.

Energis also provide the transmission network (though not the
transmitters themselves) for the BBC in the UK and other data
applications for other companies etc.

Demon Internet (mentioned here occassionally) also use Energis lines.

It's a good way of using an existing network to create another one,
though some customer service aspects of Energis as a company have been
noted as being particulary, erm, nasty.


www.energis.co.uk has more information.

------------------------------

From: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au (David Clayton)
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 04:17:33 GMT
Organization: Customer of Access One Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia


Tim Dillman <0006540276@mcimail.com> contributed the following:

> I recently visited one of my customers to discuss future technologies
> and he brought up the wildest idea I have heard yet.  It seems that
> the public utilities are using power lines as the transmission media
> for internal ethernet transmissions (or so he said).  I was very
> skeptical about this notion but managed a smile and nod when my
> customer told me of this, but sill I wonder ...

I have heard of a power utility in New Zealand using their lines to
communicate with "smart" meters for remote billing data collection,
but they didn't mention ethernet connections.


Regards,

David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:04:48 EST
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)
Subject: The Problem With the Chat Feature


After observing it for a few days now, the one thing I've noticed is
that two or more people rarely seem to be there at the same time. In
most cases, someone goes to that web page, hangs around a few minutes
and after seeing no response from anyone else then leaves. Time and
again, five minutes or less later, some new person shows up. :(

It might be a good idea to have some times given for chat by a 
general consensus; that is, people showing up there could usually
expect to find others there at that time also. So how is this for
a starting schedule ... and feel free to make your own arrangments
with others to meet there at certain times.

How about 10-11 AM Eastern;
           4-5  PM Eastern;
           9-10 PM Eastern ....

At least for Monday and Tuesday .... to give those of you who are
interested in using this feature a chance to meet others who like
doing the same thing. If you wish, leave a message there at any
time indicating the time you will be returning or would like to
have others meet you there, etc.

I have this feature set currently for only one 'room' or chat
area, but I can set it for as many areas as I like; I was thinking
of possibly setting it for about six 'rooms', meaning that many
separate conversations could be going on. 

Also, some people have been leaving questions there looking for
answers from others 'passing through'. You might want to make sure
that if no one is there to answer your question you include an 
email address where you can be contacted with an answer, etc.

The Telecom Chat URL is http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/chat


PAT

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Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:51:38 PST
From: Alan Bishop <a@corp.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story


Howdy.  I'm a software engineer at WebTV Networks.  I certainly don't
speak for the company, but I can clear up some misunderstandings.

dr@ripco.com (David Richards) writes:

> It's apparent that "WebTV" uses a proprietary interface that is
> totally incompatible with the PPP standard, so it can only be used to
> connect to their service.

Nope.  It uses PPP.  However, it does connect to our servers over the
internet via TCP/IP.  See below for more information.

doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) writes:

> I tried WebTV at Sears recently to bring up my home page.  It was
> "painfully slow" - comparable to Netscape at 2400 baud.

[...]

> Incidentally, my home page -- which is pretty ordinary -- had a .wav
> sound clip on it, and WebTV couldn't deal with that at all.  I don't
> know if it supports any other type of sound files.  It handled forms,
> however.

That's unusual.  Perhaps that Sears had a noisy phone line?  It's got
a 33.6k modem built in.  Plus, data is compressed further by our proxy
server when possible.  Some reviewers of our box have been perplexed
when they get pages *faster* than their $3k computer.

Version 1.0 of the client only supported MIDI.  Version 1.1, due out
shortly, supports Real Audio, .wav, .au, .aiff, mod, and others.  All
users will receive the upgrade free of charge.  The important software
in the box is all stored in flash ROM, and we can do upgrades over the
net.  The only thing the user needs to do is select 'upgrade now' when
we announce the new release.  The box takes care of the rest.

Technical specs on the box are at:

http://webtv.net/HTML/home.specs.html (.net, not .com)

JP White <ffv.aerotech@ffvaerotech.com> writes:

> In defense of WebTV they do provide a service where you give them your
> area code and first three digits of your local number and they will
> inform you if the call is local or not. However there is catch 22,
> this service is available on their Web page, so if you havn't got Web
> access your stuck.

That's at:

http://webtv.net/HTML/home.retail.html (.net, not .com)

However, you can also call our customer service department at
1-800-GOWEBTV, and they can tell you as well.

Dave Sieg <dave@tricon.net> writes:

> But it would make sense for WebTV to allow a local ISP to be THE
> provider in areas where they don't have POP's.  Nope, can't be done.
> Apparently, they use some proprietery encryption scheme, and are
> making big plans for people to conduct all kinds of business solely
> through their ISP.

[...]

> In our part of the world, business lines cost nearly $70/month, and we
> have had our bad experience with the abuse of "unlimited" accounts.
> It simply doesn't make sense for any local ISP to permit somebody to
> have unlimited use of his dialin lines, modems, routers, etc for a few
> bucks/month.

Dave Sieg has some legitimate concerns.  However, his article may
confuse some people.  We *are* contacting local ISPs and arranging for
more coverage.  Communications are via standard PPP and TCP/IP, so
this is pretty easy.  What he's upset about is that (a) we want to
still be involved (i.e. we only allow customers to connect to ISPs
that we have a business relationship with), and that (b) he's in a
region of the US where (according to him) the economics don't work out
for a $19.95 unlimited access plan.

Hopefully, a description of our service will bring a little more light
to the discussion.

The key to understanding the decisions we've made is "user
experience".  Our goal is a system usable by anyone, not just those
who know how to use a computer.  If you've never touched a keyboard
before, you've never heard of an ISP, or you're not quite sure what
the internet is, you can still successfully use our system to browse
the Web and send email.  This is a consumer product, not a computer
system.

The user interface has been radically redesigned.  There are no
scrollbars.  There is no horizontal scrolling.  The primary interface
is through a remote control, similar to the ones used for DSS.  

After you buy it at the store (either the Sony or Philips / Magnavox
brand), you plug it into power, your TV, and your phone line, and you
press the power button.  You don't need to select an ISP and you don't
need to fiddle with connection scripts, modem configuration, or phone
numbers.  It just works.  Many areas have multiple ISPs serving them,
and if the first one your box dials fails to connect properly, it just
rolls over to the next one in the list without the consumer needing to
intervene (or know).  For one fee the customer gets the redundant
services of multiple ISPs.  Customer service and billing is all
through us.

Obviously, to pull this kind of transparency off, we need to have some
sort of relationship with the ISPs involved, since we need to know who
to call, what their connection procedures are like, and who to pay.
Our systems have only been online since September, and it's not
surprising that we started with the largest ISPs with the best
coverage before working our way down.

The box talks to our proxy server over an encrypted channel (using
TCP/IP).  This allows us to provide a better service to the user
in several ways:

 - privacy for the user.  The number of places that someone could
   snoop on a user's session are greatly reduced.  We should be
   publishing a statement on user privacy in the near future
   describing what we will and won't do with information in our
   possession.  I believe it's designed to answer the same questions
   as those posed in http://www.cdt.org/privacy/online_services/chart.html.
   We use strong encryption, and as some of you are already aware,
   we've been declared a munition by the US government, and the boxes
   have a "do not export" stamp on them somewhere.

 - response time for common sites is more consistent.  The time to
   connect to a common site is the time between a user's box and the proxy
   server, not N different sites on the internet.

 - we transcode images and other media types.  For example, image
   creators often make their images too detailed or store them in
   a format that doesn't compress as well as it should.  We fix that
   in the proxy before transmitting them over the slow link to the user.
   It also means that if we want to support a media type, we don't
   need a new client release: we just add it in the server and convert
   it to an existing one.

Mail is stored on our server.  This means that even if one of your
ISPs is down, you can still get your mail.  We run a 24x7 operation
with generator backup.  Some ISPs do this too, but not all.

So, it is true that users must connect to our service once they're
hooked to the internet.  It is true that you do not select your own
ISP.  In exchange, you get a system that anyone can use, redundancy,
improved reliability, and performance in many cases, and a single point
of contact for billing and customer service.


alan     a@corp.webtv.net


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for responding Alan. Please continue
to follow this thread and perhaps in a day or two take a few minutes to
summarize it for us with some followup comments of your own.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:53:03 GMT


doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) writes:

> I tried WebTV at Sears recently to bring up my home page.  It was
> "painfully slow" - comparable to Netscape at 2400 baud.
> Incidentally, my home page -- which is pretty ordinary -- had a .wav
> sound clip on it, and WebTV couldn't deal with that at all.  I don't
> know if it supports any other type of sound files.  It handled forms,
> however.

   It does forms.  It does E-mail.  It's actually rather clever about
dealing with the width limitations of the TV screen.  It didn't do
QuickTime or .avi movies when I tried one.  I was suprised; given the
name, I though it would be oriented towards audio and video, not text.


John Nagle

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org>
Subject: Re: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 12:47:32 -0800
Organization: Strategies & Technologies


Rich Greenberg wrote:

> Does the limited resolution of the typical TV distort the images/photos
> on the web sites?  Is it as good as 640x480?

Nope!

David Scott Lewis
thewebguy@acm.org


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Was that 'nope' a response to the first
question or the second question?    PAT]

------------------------------

From: belfert@citilink.com (Brian Elfert)
Subject: Re: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective
Date: 8 Dec 96 21:55:36 GMT


David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org> writes:

> When I send a message from my WebTV account, message recipients that hit 
> their "Reply" function will send their messages back to my WebTV account.
> That means that I'll get WebTV replies only when I use my WebTV account.
> That's definitely NOT cool.  I'd like to be able to designate my own 
> e-mail and reply-to address.  I ALWAYS use a forwarding account, like my 
> IEEE or ACM accounts, which is turn forward to my USA.NET account, which 
> then explodes to my Pacbell and WebTV accounts.  Since the only place 
> that I can store (and, for now, print) messages is with my Pacbell 
> connection (which really sucks, by the way), I use my Pacbell account as 
> my so-called "master" account.  But I can still view ALL of my messages 
> through WebTV or through any browser anywhere in the world through my 
> USA.NET account.  If I get RadioMail (or Wynd) ... or the MP 2000, I'll 
> add forwarding to those accounts as well.  

WebTV is really designed for the person who doesn't have Internet now, and 
probably doesn't have a computer.

Do you think the average person really has a half dozen Internet email 
addresses, and wants their WebTV mail to be returned to a different email
account?  Chances are, this will be the only email account for most users.


Brian

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org>
Subject: WebTV: Pricing and Access Issues
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 13:54:22 -0800
Organization: Strategies & Technologies


Original message asked me about who's the ISP with WebTV, are their
access points toll-free, and how much does it cost.  There's a bit of
marketing perspective/philosophy later in this message.

WebTV IS the ISP.  To determine if it's a local call, you can go to
their home page and navigate until you find their local access
indicator input selection.  In other words, it's a form where you put
in your phone number.  WebTV then determines if you have a toll-free
local access number.  However, I'd check your White Pages just to be
sure.  In my case, both numbers they gave me were local.  But I'm in
Los Angeles and in the Marina; EVERYONE seems to have a toll-free
access number from the Marina, so it's not surprising that I had TWO
local access numbers for WebTV.  (The ISI think tank is about a
stone's throw away from my residence; they have the fastest pipes in
L.A., and through their MFS connection everyone seems to be hooked-in
locally.)

The charge for UNLIMITED access is $20.00.  It might really be $19.95
or $19.99, but you get the idea.  Oh, that's per month, of course.

The real question for the WebTV folks is what are the reservation
prices?  My complete unit ran about $440, including the IR keyboard.
My hunch (and it's just a hunch) is that WebTV needs to price the
hardware at less than $300; actually, that might be more of a call for
Sony and Philips, since they're the two current hardware suppliers.
(I don't know if WebTV has exclusives with Sony and Philips.)

For monthly access, I believe they need to be in the $12 per month
range for unlimited access.  However, I'm going to urge them to offer
an automatically tiered pricing.  In other words, $3.95 per month for
3 hours; $9.95 per month for 20 hours; and, $12.95 per month for
unlimited access.  Like my PacBell account, it should kick-in
automatically; unlike AOL's new pricing scheme, user's should NOT have
to predetermine how much access they want.  AOL is being a bit
ridiculous and it got them in legal hot water.

With this kind of pricing, WebTV's biggest problem will be meeting
demand!  Within a year, they would be the largest Internet-only ISP.
Within two years, they would surpass AOL.  Besides, within the next 18
months, I expect them to have integrated a lot of new, cool
technologies, especially streaming video ... or, at the very least,
Shockwave and QuickTimeVR.  Plus, PDF must not be too far behind.
Macromedia and Adobe must see the value of WebTV as the platform of
choice for the public at large.  Like I've hinted in the past, it's a
switch to a market potential of over a hundred million new "viewers,"
versus the old, tired paradigm of "users."  

However, I expect this new generation of "viewers" (or at least a good
fraction of new "viewers") to want interactivity.  I wouldn't be
surprised if WebTV is working with someone (hey, NetObjects would be
cool) to develop an authoring toolkit so "viewers" could put up a very
basic home page.  There have got to be some interesting ways of taking
advantage of the VCR/WebTV/television triad ... and why not add input
from digital cameras, et al.  VCRs, cameras, and other traditional
consumer electronics products are what the public at large is used to;
WebTV will simply be their seamless access platform to the Internet.
And that's the real beauty of WebTV.  Consumers will come to think of
WebTV as another one of their appliances: "Yeah, I've got a microwave,
a frig, a dishwasher, and WebTV."

Word of caution: WebTV does NOT currently allow access to the Internet
with the exception of the Web and e-mail.  For most of the world
that's more than adequate.  (Even I can't recall when I last used
Gopher or talk, although I do miss my Unix compression-related tools,
especially since I read a lot of ftp accessible research papers, many
using .z or .gz compression.)  However, through DejaNews and other
types of archives, such as the archives for Online-News, it's possible
for those without access to a direct Usenet feed to read postings and
directly post to Usenet groups.  (I hope DejaNews is prepared to
handle the traffic.  Matter of fact, DejaNews should be a courtesy
"Favorite" for WebTV.  In other words, WebTV shouldn't charge DejaNews
for the "Favorite" link/icon; DejaNews is, in essence, doing WebTV a
big favor.)

Once WebTV provides EASY Usenet access, perhaps through a relationship
with DejaNews, then it will be really tough to argue against WebTV.
With e-mail, access to the Web, and participatory access to Usenet,
WebTV will provide (practically speaking) EVERYTHING that viewers
would want ... at least until THE NEXT BIG THING, whatever that will
be.

Final observation for this message: I'm already finding that WebTV is
my PRIMARY means of 'Net access.  My PC is collecting a bit of dust!
:-) Hey, I still use my PC access at least a few times a day,
especially when I'm composing long (e-mail) letters, but I'm using
WebTV to read most of the key Web publications that I regularly view
AND to read many (actually, most) of my e-mail newsletters.  Yes,
WebTV needs Netscape InBox-Direct capabilities, but it's fine for 95+%
of the e-mail newsletters and 'zines that I receive.  Guess what: This
lengthy message was originally composed on WebTV ... and it's pretty
long.

So go get your WebTV ... before they're all sold out!  :-)

For a peek at the most interesting threads I've seen about WebTV, go
to: http://www.social.com/social/hypermail/news/index.html (As you
know, yours truly has numerous WebTV-related postings in their
archives.)

Also, be sure to check out the copied newsgroups for the latest
perspectives on WebTV.  If you're on WebTV or don't receive a Usenet
feed, go to: http://www.dejanews.com


David Scott Lewis
thewebguy@acm.org

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <d.s.lewis@ieee.org>
Subject: WebTV: Excite Live! Page Creation; E-mail Miscellany
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 15:18:46 -0800
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services


A while ago I talked about the difficulties of setting up an Excite 
Live! page through WebTV.  Some further explanation is required.

Actually, it is possible to set up an Excite Live! page through WebTV;
it's just cumbersome (or can be).  Since it's not possible to "Copy"
and "Paste", each URL for Excite Live! had to be inputted manually.

Now that's okay for The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com), but not 
too cool for Technology Review 
(http://web.mit.edu:80/afs/athena/org/t/techreview/www/).  But it's 
doable.

Some other features that need to be added:

1) Ordering of "Favorites".  Right now a "viewer" will get stuck with a 
listing of "Favorites" ordered by data, FIFO style.  That's a pit of a 
pain, especially if a "viewer" has a lot of "Favorites".

2) Currently there is no "Reply to All" feature in their e-mail system. 
 That, too, needs to be added.

It's been noted before, but I'd like to restate it, that a red light 
message indicator signals when new mail has been received.  The unit 
also beeps.  Both are nice features.


David Scott Lewis
thewebguy@acm.org

------------------------------

From: jshetler@ohm.elee.calpoly.edu (Joy Shetler)
Subject: Compcon 97
Date: 8 Dec 1996 21:36:21 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo


             IEEE's COMPCON 97 Set for Feb. 23-27 in San Jose

Visit the COMPCON 97 World Wide Web page for more information and/or
to register: URL: http://www.compcon.org  or read the following :)

SAN JOSE, Calif., -- One of the country's pre-eminent computer
technology conferences -- Compcon 97 -- will be held February 23-26,
1997 here in the heart of the Silicon Valley.  This continues a
tradition of more than 40 successful years in the San Francisco Bay
Area for this non-profit technical conference.

"Hot Systems/Cool Software" is the theme of COMPCON 97, underscoring
the importance of new computing technologies and applications in both
the computer industry and society.

"Computer technologies ranging from world-record 600MHz processors to
eye-catching Java applets and VRML virtual worlds will all be featured
at COMPCON 97," said Darrell Long, the conference chair and computer
science professor at University of California-Santa Cruz.  "COMPCON
has the reputation as a one-stop, no-hype overview of the important
developments in our industry.  If you could only attend one technical
conference a year to learn about the overall state of the industry,
COMPCON would be your choice."

Adds Dr. Joel Birnbaum, Vice President, R&D and Director of HP Labs:
"COMPCON has been consistently a valuable conference presenting a
broad technical program on state-of-the-art computing technologies."

IEEE COMPCON 97 will be held at the San Jose Hilton and Towers Hotel
(300 Almaden Blvd.) in downtown San Jose, Calif.

COMPCON is sponsored by the Institute for Electrical and Electronics
Engineers (IEEE), a non-profit professional association, and has been
held in the Bay Area annually since 1955.

Its 27 technical sessions and six in-depth tutorial topics run the
gamut from the design of advanced central processing units and
networks to computer systems, advanced programming and world wide web
technologies.  In addition, five well-known industry luminaries will
give plenary talks.  COMPCON has no marketing presentations or product
exhibitions.


COMPCON 97 program overview:

  INTERNET/INTRANET TECHNOLOGY:  Trends, Environments, Applications

  SYSTEMS:  Superservers, Mobility, Software Architecture

  MICROPROCESSORS:  High-Performance, Low-Power

  INTERCONNECTS:  Parallel Computers, LAN and WAN, Wireless

  VIDEO: Advanced Displays, Digital

  MULTIMEDIA:  Technologies, Software Environments, Applications

  PARALLEL/DISTRIBUTED SYSTEMS:  Applications, Hardware, Compilers

  OPERATING SYSTEMS:  Object-Oriented, Microkernels

  PERIPHERALS:  Mass Storage, DVDs, Display Technologies

  EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES:  GigaHertz Devices, Advanced Hardware, Java

Tutorial topics include: 3-D graphics, virtual reality, web site design
and security, advances in computer architecture.

Plenary speakers include:

  Federico Faggin (Synaptics) -- "The Microprocessor:  Its History and
  Future"

  Hector Garcia-Molina (Stanford) -- "Meta-Searching Across the Internet"

  David K. Gifford (MIT and OpenMarket) -- "The Future of Electronic
  Commerce"

  Ted Laliotis (Laliotis and Associates) -- "To Tax or Not to Tax
  Internet Transactions"

  Dave Nagel, AT&T  

Advance reservations to Compcon 97 can be made through the web site
or by contacting:

   Dave Hunt, COMPCON 97 Registrar
   Lawrence Livermore National Lab
   PO Box 808 MS L-130,
   Livermore, CA  94551-0808
       E-mail:  hunt-dn@llnl.gov

Updated information will be placed on the Compcon 97 home page on the
World Wide Web at URL: http://www.compcon.org

Additional contacts include:

Dr. Darrell D. E. Long, General Chair
University of California-Santa Cruz
Baskin Center, Computer Engr./Info. Sciences
Applied Science Bldg.
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Phone: 408-459-2616
    Fax: 408-459-4829
    E-mail: darrell@cse.ucsc.edu

Dr. Michael Harrisson, Program Chair
University of California, Berkeley
    Computer Science Division
    775 Soda Hall
    Berkeley, CA 94720-1776
    harrison@cs.berkeley.edu


Michael Ross, Publicity/Media Relations  
IBM Corp., Almaden Research Center
650 Harry Road, K03-802
San Jose, CA 95120-6099
     Phone: 408-927-1283
     Fax: 408-927-3011
     E-mail: mikeross@almaden.ibm.com


For more information about this posting contact:

Dr. Joy Shetler
Cal Poly
Computer Engineering Program
San Luis Obispo, CA 93407
	Phone: 805-756-2309
	Fax:805-756-1458
	E-mail: jshetler@calpoly.edu
	http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~jshetler

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Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 13:25:00 -0800
From: Michael Mantel <mantel@hypersurf.com>
Reply-To: mantel@hypersurf.com
Subject: Re: Payphone Prices for 0+ and 800/888


dave@westmark.com wrote:

> ...The local exchange carriers will be required to operate their
> public telephones through unregulated, unsubsidized entities. With
> this change, virtually all payphones will be required to pay their
> own way, without subsidies from regulated ratepayers.

I question how common it was for LECs to claim that their payphones
(taken as a whole) were operated at a loss.  Even if they did,
it would be pretty much an accounting fiction, because so much
of the costs of operating a telephone network are fixed costs...
so the amount charged per line, per call, or per minute is pretty
arbitrary.

On the contrary, it seems likely that prior to the introduction of
"competition" into the payphone business, payphones would have been
helping to keep local phone rates down.

I would like to know who has benefited from COCOTs.  The LECs have
lost revenue and the public pays more for poorer service.  The people
who benefit are the COCOT marketers and operators, and perhaps the
businesses that get a commission for having COCOTs on their premises.

The premise behind deregulating things is that the customers of the
service will have an opportunity to choose the best provider of the
service, but this doesn't work with pay phones.  When you are at a
mall or an airport, your only choices are to use the single service
provider available or not to make the call.

I =thought= the FCC was supposed to operate in the public interest,
but I notice that the public interest doesn't get much representation
when the FCC holds hearings.  Instead, you have the LECs and the IXCs
and the COCOT operators battling it out, and they are not worried
about the public interest.  The ridiculous thing is that the FCC
expresses concern in its opinions that some companies may be adverse-
ly impacted by rule changes or by other changes ... so what?  Nobody
promised the cable companies they would have a permanent monopoly
(though it looked like they would), and nobody has promised the COCOT
operators that things will stay the same forever.

Here's my hypothetical question ... when I go to the airport today,
AT&T already has their own phones there.  Now AT&T will have a reason
to encourage their customers to use the AT&T phones, thereby avoiding
the surcharges on 800 calls.  Can we expect more carriers to begin
offering their own phones, and at more places?

Unless the FCC is requiring the IXCs to do separate accounting for
payphone services, my guess is that they are going to begin more
seriously competing with the existing COCOT operators for this
business, and lots of COCOT operators will be out of business in five
years as a result of these new rules.  Good riddance!


Eli Mantel

------------------------------

From: hillary@netaxs.com (Hillary Gorman)
Subject: Re: Area Code Woes
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 17:27:36 -0500
Organization: Packet Shredders Anonymous


In article <telecom16.652.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, genie@panix.com wrote:

> In <telecom16.650.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu> Joel Upchurch <upchurch@
> bellsouth.net> writes:

>> I suspect that there may be real world financial consequences, such
>> as loan elgibility or insurance rates that could be effected by
>> living in an 'undesirable' zip code.

> Insurance companies and underwriters use the ZIP+4 and TIGER Census
> data, along with their own claims experience, and the Equifax
> insurance claims clearinghouse database, to segment their insurance to

Recently near Philadelphia, one of the suburbs (I think Elkins Park,
maybe Melrose Park, not sure) fought and won to have their zip code
changed from one that was shared with part of the City of Philadelphia
to a "suburban" zip code. When the zip code changed, my friend's car
insurance payments were reduced. It truly boggles the mind. The car
didn't move, the neighborhood didn't change -- yet the insurance
company said "you are now eligible to recieve a "good neighborhood
discount" -- what a bunch of malarkey.


hillary gorman     http://www.hillary.net     info@hillary.net
              "to err is human; to moo, bovine."

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From: bruce@eisner.decus.org (Barton F. Bruce)
Subject: Re: Connecting Non-PBX Line Powered Equipment to 24v Analog PBX Line
Organization: CentNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:14:21 GMT


In article <telecom16.646.9@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Steven G. Bradley
<sbradley@southern.edu> writes:

> I have a model 706 AT&T line powered speakerphone that works poor to
> not at all at times due to lack of a full 48v.  The analog PBX line
> supplies 24v I am told.  Is there an interface I can buy that would
> let the PBX think 24v was ok and in use and yet increase it to a full
> 48v on the phone side of the equation?  I'd love to use my
> speakerphone for it's full purpose and replacing it with one that is
> on AC or batteries really is not the solution I was thinking of.

There are the traditional DLL (Dial Long Line) units that can take
96VDC or whatever for talk battery, but getting and installing one
will cost more than a better speaker phone would.

The reason 24 volts is ok on PBXes is taht the loops are generally
short.  The POTS 2500 set needs nominally 23MA for the tone dial to
work.  There is but a few volts across the set when off hook. most of
the -48 is lost elsewhere.

Just for the heck of it, take a small 12VDC GelCell (burglar alarm
size is fine) and wire it in **SERIES** with the phone such that it
boosts rather than bucks the available voltage. I am assuming your PBX
isn't capable of reversing station battery for some signaling purpose.

You don't need a capacitor across the battery -- it will pass voice
and ringing just fine.

If this helps, look at voltage across the phone and current through it
off hook and compare to using no battery. I doubt you need a second 12
bat that would bring your onhook voltage to 48 but might even put the
line circuit at risk (though I doubt it).

You would need a very small trickle charge to keep the battery
charged. Find a slightly higher voltage wall-wart and use a suitable
resistor (and diode if it was an AC one) to give you a couple of MA
trickle charge. Wire the charger right TO the battery rather than to
other wiring common to the phone connection to it or you *will* suffer
HUM problems.

------------------------------

From: bfm@pobox.com (Barry F Margolius)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 06:09:02 GMT
Organization: INTERNET AMERICA


nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson) wrote:

> In article <telecom16.645.10@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, dstott@juno.com (Dave J
> Stott) writes:

>> That's real world.  We're not poor, we're not COCOT dependent, we're
>> not interested in market-based pricing vs government regulation.  All
>> we care about is that my teenager can call home from where ever she
>> is, even if she forgets her quarter.

> I will blow off this ONCE more about this issue, and then I will shut
> up, I promise.

> The previous poster makes a good argument that "free 800" is not just
> an issue of money but of convenience/assessibility, as you do not
> always carry the right coins.  This is true, granted.

I pretty much agree with your position, but I did want to amplify it
by pointing out that it is conceivable that an 800 call from a
payphone might not be free, but would still require no "quarter".  The
COCOT could charge the 800 provider the $0.35 (or whatever), and the
800 provider could pass it on to the customer.


Barry F Margolius, NYC
bfm@pobox.com
For PGP Key, finger bfm@panix.com

------------------------------

From: edongp@aol.com
Subject: Re: COCOTs and 800 Numbers
Date: 7 Dec 1996 06:26:24 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


This time there is a way to call through a payphone without being
charged an arm and a leg if you do some advance planning. For the
first time, you could get your own call back switch, install it in
your home, and call from payphones, hotel phones, dormitory phones and
charge everything to your home phone (which is the lowest rate you
could get anywhere). Visit http://www.woodtel.com/DIALMATE1.html for
complete information.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 08:59:48 -0800
From: Marty Tennant <marty@sccoast.net>
Reply-To: marty@sccoast.net
Organization: Low Tech Designs, Inc.
Subject: N11 Codes


Mark J. Cuccia recently said:

> "IMO, The N11 codes should have NEVER been used in the way some areas
> are now using them. Since the only real three-digit N11 code that has
> any REAL universal assignment or reservation is 911(altho' some
> locations don't yet offer 911 service), the codes 211 through 811
> should be used as 'POTS' central office codes."

Esteemed readers,

This issue has been discussed in a still open docket at the FCC for
some time now.

Many people feel that N11 codes are "national treasures" and should
not be used for commercial purposes as BellSouth has regretably done.

In Canada and in Hawaii (GTE), N11 codes have been used for Telephone
Relay Service for TDD users. They argue for a uniform number to make
access for hearing impaired telephone users consistent across state
lines, rather than a mishmash of toll free numbers.

Also, the General Services Administration would like one of the codes
as a generic means of calling the U.S. Government! Not sure that
would work. Many independent telcos use the codes for their business
office number.

In Texas, a proposal was floated awhile back to auction off one of the
N11 codes on a county-wide basis to ISPs for the provisioning of local
access to state and local Internet based information services.  The
government access part would be free, but the winning bidder would be
able to charge for other information sources.  Don't think this
concept went anywhere.

I think President Clinton recently supported the use of another N11
code as a non-emergency alternative to overloaded 911 centers.
Evidently, we have trained the public to call 911 when it really isn't
necessary. In this proposal, an N11 code would ring at the local
police office that handles regular non-emergency calls.  I don't think
all the public assistance folks out there agree with this position, as
there would be confusion and an incredible public education effort.

I do not support the use of N11 codes as central office prefixes, just
as I don't support their use in BellSouth territory as pay-per-use
information service numbers.

I agree that they should be considered "national treasures" and should
be used for appropriate non-commercial purposes.  These purposes may
not be evident at this time.


Marty Tennant
Low Tech Designs, Inc.
New Neighborhood Networks(tm)

------------------------------

From: arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens)
Subject: Replacing a Cell Phone
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:48:42 -0800
Organization: USC/Information Sciences Institute


In the US -- I don't know about the situation elsewhere -- it is
customary for cellular service providers to subsidize the cost of a
new phone in return for the customer signing an extended service
contract.  Typically, a 12 or 24 month contract is required for a
subsidy on the order of US$300.

Which makes me wonder, how do people typically go about getting a new
cell phone to replace an old one?  Do they wait until the expiration
of the contract on the first phone, and then junk it and buy the new
one, so as to receive the subsidy again?  In this case, is there any
way to convince the service provider to allow the subscriber to keep
the old phone number?

Or, in order to keep the same phone number, do people just bite the
bullet and pay full price for the new phone?  

Or is there some other possibility?

I'd be curious to hear from folks who have had personal experiences with
such matters.


Yigal Arens                  I believe in luck: how else can you explain
USC/ISI                           the success of those you dislike?
arens@isi.edu                              -- Jean Cocteau
http://www.isi.edu/sims/arens


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most carriers will allow you to extend
your contract another period of time to commence when the current 
contract expires. For example, you have six months to go on your two 
year contract with the cellular carrier. You need to get a new phone.
Ask the carrier to allow you to commit to another two year contract
in addition to the six months remaining on the present one. The
carrier will refer you to a dealer who will match the ESN in your
new phone with your existing number and deactivate the ESN in the
old phone. It won't take but a few minutes most of the time. 

When my former cell phone 'walked away' one day, I notified the dealer
as well as Frontier. Actually I called Ameritech (which is resold by
Frontier) since it was after hours -- about midnight -- when I
discovered the phone was gone. I called Ameritech and asked them to
kill the ESN but hold the two numbers pending a new ESN. I had the
dealer send me a new phone which was delivered the next day with
the same phone numbers as the old phone. Before the dealer sent
me the new phone he called Frontier and had them fax Ameritech with
the new ESN. The only kink in my case which held it up was that
the phone has two numbers served off the same switch assigned to
the same ESN -- a no no -- requiring supervisory override to get
the switch to accept both numbers on the same ESN assignment. That
took another day to clear up, but had it not been for that, I
was back in business with the same number a couple days after the
original phone decided to lose me somewhere.     

You should have no problems. The carrier will be glad to have you
around for another two or three year term.     PAT]

------------------------------

From: swb@mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Shawn Barnhart)
Subject: Competing Local Telecom Providers: How's it Work?
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:16:34 -0600
Organization: Chaos


I was having a discussion with someone the other day about what's
involved in forming one of the new, competing local telephone companies
that the Telecom bill was supposed to have made legal.  I'm not an
expert on telecommunications, and I was kind of curious how it was
actually supposed to work.

I can understand some of the infrastructure needs, but what about the
circuits that terminate in a residence or place of business?  Will they
be granted access to the existing phone company exchanges and only have
to deal with trunking?  Or will they have to run wire to each and every
customer in addition to the necessary trunking lines?


Shawn Barnhart
swb@mercury.campbell-mithun.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If they were actually competing, they
would run wire to each premise, install instruments, etc. But as a
matter of fact the 'competitors' have whined so much about it and
claimed Bell had such an unfair advantage that regulatory agencies
have required Bell to allow the 'competitors' to co-locate in the
same central office. In some instances, they do not even bother
with that formality; they just force Bell to sell to them wholesale
at a deep discount so they can resell to the public cheaper than
what Bell does while telling the public what a ripoff Bell is for
charging customers as much as they do. They cannot accept assignment
of a group of phone numbers which in their opinion 'look funny'
because this would also in their opinion be unfair, so Bell has to
open up all sorts of new area codes so the 'competitors' can grab
thousand upon thousands of phone numbers they will never manage
to assign to anyone in the next twenty years. They even want to
force Bell to include all their listings in the existing Bell
directory because ... well, you guessed it, it would be unfair
to force them to go to the expense and effort of compiling their
own. 

The only thing they have not demanded and been granted thus far is
that Bell be forced to revert to nineteenth century telephone
technology while the 'competitors' spend the next hundred years or so
trying to catch up. So no, you won't see new wires brought to your
premises in most instances. If it does happen, they will be Bell wires
leased by the competitor to serve you. You won't even see trunking and
co-location all that often either. Most of the time it will amount to
nothing more than accounting entries on the books of telco and the
competitor.  A lot of the 'competitors' will be little more than
reincarnations of our good friends, the Alternate Operator Services.
The AOS' are essentially bottom-feeders; they serve no useful function
except to charge a lot more than the 'real operators' for their
services.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Joe Jensen <jjensen@cablesystem.com>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:59:38 -0500


At a recent trade show, Novell was showing a new technology that they
claimed to be able to provide as high as 1.5 Mbps over typical small
business or residential power distribution lines (inside the house).
This was proposed as a cheap way to provide LAN connectivity for
various copiers, printers, faxes, and PCs in a residential or small
business environment. The protocol was based on an emerging standard
but the transport layer was proprietary. I believe they still have
some information on their web site. At the show, they were handing out
CDROMs with information on the product.


Joe Jensen
Buckeye Cablevision
Toledo, Ohio

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:23:54 -0500
From: Henry J. Becker <hbecker@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: hbecker@ix.netcom.com
Organization: The QB Group / MIS Training Institute
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines


Tim Dillman wrote:

> I recently visited one of my customers to discuss future technologies
> and he brought up the wildest idea I have heard yet.  It seems that
> the public utilities are using power lines as the transmission media
> for internal ethernet transmissions (or so he said).  I was very
> skeptical about this notion but managed a smile and nod when my
> customer told me of this, but sill I wonder ...

>  ... Can anyone confirm or dispel this idea?

It is not a *wild idea* -- it is quite practical when you think about
it; since the power company's own their right-of-way.

 From the little I know, power company control systems are called
SCADA.  This is the system that controls substations and grid switches
from a central point.  The signalling system is part of SCADA.  Other
systems that poll remote power readers, or control load-shed are not
part of SCADA -- but work similarly.

 From all of the wireless communication information I have read, I
think the protocol used is a variant of Token Ring.  Because of the
large amount of noise on the power lines, it is important to receive
acknowledgement that a packet was successfully received.  I agree that
an Ethernet protocol could accomplish the same abjective.

I was also surprised to read of references of signalling speeds of
100K and higher.  I know that is presently available from one vendor -
under extremely limited distances and high quality lines.  I am aware
of typical systems in the hertz-to-kilohertz range.

Hope this helps.

------------------------------

From: Jeffrey Race <jeffreyrace@delphi.com>
Subject: Wanted: AudioVox/Spectrum Cellular Interface
Date: Sun, 8 DEC 96 11:22:55 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)


I desire to buy one or more analog interfaces for Audiovox 3200
bagphone, sold by Audiovox with p/n STI-85, and also by Spectrum
(before they abandoned the product line) under a different p/n.
Please reply to jrace@ibm.net.

------------------------------

From: hancock4@cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Calling a Spammer Collect?
Date: 8 Dec 1996 17:59:30 GMT
Organization: Philadelphia City Paper's City Net


I'm getting more and more unwanted email in my box everyday.  A few
messages list regular phone numbers (not 800) to call for more
information.

Is there any law saying I can't call the person COLLECT to complain
about their spamming.  I realize someone has to actually answer and
accept the call, it can't be to a machine.  But, frankly, I want to
give them an earful for their spam.

Along those lines, is there still a "COLLECT PERSON" tariff?  That is,
I'll call COLLECT, PERSON TO PERSON, (asking to speak to a "manager"),
so the call will be billed at person-to-person rates.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, there is still collect person-to-
person, and it is quite expensive. By the time they get a few of those
calls -- if they choose to accept the charges -- they'll wish they
had given out their 800 number instead. There is no law against calling
anyone collect if that person is willing to pay for it. The only
exception is collection agencies; they may not call collect. Would
you believe though that some have tried calling collect to discuss
your past due bills, etc?  One well-known collection agency here in
Skokie which has been around for fifty years is known as Van Ru. The
people at Van Ru tend to collect debts on the low end of the scale
like Columbia Record Club (now I guess they call it Columbia House
and they specialize in CDs) and for used car dealers and furniture/
carpet wholesale houses, etc. They tend to work with not terribly
intelligent debtors. For about five years, Van Ru would call collect
disguising the true purpose of their call until after the debtor
accepted the charges for the call.  <smirk> Talk about adding a
little insult to injury ... finally the Federal Trade Commission
cracked down on Van Ru (and one of the other major agencies which
had started doing the same thing called 'Gulf Coast' [now GC Services]
in Houston, Texas), and told them no more collect calls to debtors. 
That was back in the early 1970's. 

But yeah, you can call collect if you can get them to accept the
charges. If a couple hundred people in one day all tried to get
through on a collect basis to the same spammer the response should
be interesting, to say the least. Better ask for the order department
however; make it sound at first like you want to buy whatever they
are selling and need to know where to send your check.     PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 12:27:36 CST
From: Christopher Wolf <cwolf@micro.ti.com>
Subject: Win95 and Areacode Overlays


Pat,

Do you or any of your readers know how Win95 users in cities with new
areacode overlays (like 713/281 in Houston) can get their systems to
recognize when and when not to dial a 1 when using the dialing
features built into Win95?  There must be numerous people that have
found and addressed this problem -- what's the fix?


Wolf

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    In a Power Station During a Blackout (Darryl Smith)
    Re: Modems in Countries Other Than North America (Dennis Wong)
    Re: Tormenting Telemarketers! (Geoffrey Welsh)
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Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:30:52 +1000
From: Darryl Smith <vk2tds@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: In a Power Station During a Blackout


Pat,

Below is a message I got and a reply on the ethernet, powerstations etc.

darryl smith


> Dan Foster wrote:

> In article <telecom16.649.3@massis.lcs.mit.edu> you write:
> >problems.  (You should be in a power station during a blackout :-)

> :-)

> Fascinating article you wrote.

> But to ask about more mundane things - out of sheer curiosity, what *is*
> it like to be in one during a blackout? :) What kind of activity goes on
> to restore power, if you know?

> -Dan Foster
> Internet: dsf@frontiernet.net

OK well ...

In February this year I was up at Bayswater (In the Hunter Valley in
NSW Australia) and I was in the electrical section - OK - I was the
electrical section - almost - I was straight out of uni. I had an
electrical engineering boss who came with the power station and will
leave if it ever gets shut down; but not before; and a technical
officer who was an expert in power systems protection.  And we had a
uni student on a semester's work (Known as a cadetship).

Power Stations are a place which can be very expensive to repair if
things go wrong. Think about 200 tonnes of metal spinning at 3000 RPM
and then put a turbine on the end. That is the size of thing I am
talking of. And the generator is filled with Hydrogen gas to improve
its efficiency in cooling (650 MWatts capaity becomes 200 MWatts in
air). To keep the hydrogen high pressure oil is pumped onto the
spinning shaft at each end to keep the air out, and then the oil it
put in a vaccuum to remove the water and oxygen from the oil. Oil is
also used to cool the bearings; which get quite hot given the weight
of the generator rotor - and the bearing at one end is insulated. IF
the bearings get to hot, they melt, causing a short circuit between
the rotor and the shaft; and you have a spinning metal in a magnetic
field and get the case magnetised (The case is iron and weighs over
100,000 Kg).

Demineralised water is used to cool the hydrogen in the generator, and
insode the copper conductors in the stator (After all a generator is
only 99 % efficient that means that 6.5 MWatts of heat is produced
!!!!!!)

In addition there is a boiler which is about 11 stories tall with 
various cameras inside at US$500,000 each which need constant cooling or 
else they will burn ...

All the important stuff like oil pumps, cooling pumps etc are all DC 
motors. And we have two of any important motors, fed from different 
switchboards, and usually different batteries. By usually I mean that is 
the normal case. Sometimes we need to take a battery bank out - and have 
both switchboards supplied from the same battery. But each battery is 
constantly on charge from a battery charger/ DC supply. These chargers 
have an automatic changeover if they lose supply from their primary AC 
switchboard.

So for the 11kV system there are:

	Unit A and B switchboards (with incoming supplies from one of 
two locations) and able to be connected in the center.

	Station A and B switchboards in a similar configuration.

In terms of DC we have the same sort of thing running on 24, 50, 110 and 
240 Volt DC batteries.

Back to February this year - my supervisor was off for the day (we have 
a 9 day fortnight) and had just rung up to make sure nothing had gone 
wrong.  Of course not. That would happen when he hung up. The Technical 
officer had just left the building too. And I was plant owner for 
switchboards - The expert. (I was also plant owneer for motors and DC 
Systems - My boss had Transformers (He has blown up more 400 MVa 
transformers than anyone else in the country and the generator circuit 
breaker.))

The lights in the admin building went dark. Once they didnt return after 
a few seconds I grabbed a torch and the cadet along with the hard hat 
and raced to the admin switchboard. When I got there one of the 
management was there looking what went wrong - He told me the incoming 
supply had died; and told me where the switchboard was that supplied it 
as I didnt know ...

I was the second person to get to the room - And the room was dark
except for two tiny 12 volt 6 watt fluro lights for a room over
10meters by 25 meters - The emergency lighting inverters were on the
sections work list - but they were not a real high priority as some
other work. One of the assistant power plant opperators (APPO's) tried
to determine what had happened. Luckilly the protection technicican
cam in soon and we were able to work it out. By this stage I told the
CADET to get the logs for the power system (they show up any
disturbansecs to the power system including timing diagrams and
waveforms). We worked out that the new ash disposal system had caused
the switchboard to trip. - But why?

Everyone decided to go to the control room at this stage - which was 
packed. The manager was there as were a lot of extras hoping that their 
training on the power plant simulator was affected by the blackout they 
would play with the real thing. The auxillary computer was out of action 
due to the power failure - The main computer was running but not all 
information went to it.

The computer was down cause the UPS had failed (40 kWatt UPS running off 
240Volt DC). At this stage the station is still running at full load 
(650 MWatts). we then worked out what had happened.

The ash disposal system was very new and placed onto above ground cable 
trays to get the wiring to it. And these are 3 * 2 inch 11KV cables for 
about a mile. It was supplied from the 1/2 and 3/4 end of the power 
station by seperate cables. The 1/2 end was supplying the current to the 
switchboard the people at the other end were wanting to work on. So they 
opened the circuit breaker to the switchboard - leaving the breaker from 
the 3/4 end able to be remotely closed at ANY time. Then they short 
circuited the incoming supply on the LIVE side. This caused the 
switchboard to trip itself to protect itself.

Then they started work. They didn't hear the big bang which was produced 
when they closed the short.

Back in the control room people mentioned hearding a bang, and us 
experts though the circuit board might have been damaged. To protect 
anyone doing work - all woork must be isolated including outgoing 
supplies  with a visible break that much be impossible to electronically 
bypass - and all this work must be verified by someone before any work 
can be done, and each person going into the area needs to be signed in 
and out; with everyone out of the area before power can be applied.

There were problems opening up this switchboard since we needed to 
isolate the circuit which had been short circuited as no one wanted to 
rely on them to correctly do anything.And then an alarm went off. One of 
the large motors (8 MWatt 47,000 KGram) tripped for an unknown reason. 
The reason would have appeared on the computer which was out of power. 

No this motor was very important (Known as an ID fan it sucked air out 
of the boiler so that power production went down to 400 MWatts meaning a 
large decrease in income (US$30 / MWatt hour means that about $10,000 is 
lost each hour that we are not operating). So there were now two 
problems we had to face. A) Could the motor be put back into service 
(it's cost was about $10 million and the spare was off site anyway)
b) Could the switchboard be put back into service.

The technician and I decided to get into the back of the 11 KV 
switchboard - against our safety rules - leaving the cadet in the 
control room incase any one decided to do anything stupid, and so our 
lack of presence would not be known so much.

On opening the switchboard we found no problems which was very good - 
and we stayed away from the high voltage conductors all the same. Still 
we needed to officially test the switchboard - And it took 18 hours to 
get the board isolated so it could be tested and looked at (Finding 
nothing). The decision having seen inside the switchboard was to test it 
and put it back into service as soon as we could.

With the motor we decided that the computer should be brought back on 
line first. When it came back we found that what had caused the problem 
with the motor was an oxygen sensor that had last power when it should 
not have. It told the computer that there was not enough oxygen in the 
boiler, so it told the fan to change the angle of the blades on it's fan 
so that it was not extracting the oxygen. This caused the motor to 
overheat and the protection took it out.

We decided that since the motor was probably un-damaged, and that no 
more damage would be done re-starting it we may as well re-start it - 
which we did. That was ok.

By this time it was 4:00 in the afternoon and time to go home. On the 
next day (Tuesday) after getting the switchboard back in service after 
testing (except for the circuit to the ash system) it was found that the 
cable to the ash system has shifted. The each of the 3 conductors were 
held together by clamps every 3 feet; and each cable was 2 inches in 
diameter. Between clamps the cables had pushed away from each other so 
that in the middle they were about 2 inches apart. This for the mile of 
the tranmission line. During the short, the cable moved, hitting the 
cable trays causing a big BANG.

And you might think the story finished there - on the Thursday whilst I 
was in the weekly team leaders meeting telling the manager that things 
were back to normal there was another blackout - although this was less 
serious. In this casse a link on a current transformer was not closed 
correctly, causing the same switchboard on the 3/4 end of the station to 
trip.
                      ------------------

Ok - To finish off - What goes into restoring power in a power 
station ... well power stations are an amasing place - and consume a lot 
of power. For instance the starting current required for the ID fan 
which failed in the above story is 80 MVa (80 MWatts) which is more than 
is used by many small cities. And it pulls this for 5 minutes.

So if the entire eastern Australia looses power we start a Gas turbin 
from battery power; We then start an ID fan motor; then the smaller 
motors that are needed and then start up the boiler etc etc etc. Once 
the power station is operating there is a constant load of 40 MWatts for 
various equipment. The Gas turbine can only just supply one 650 MWatt 
unit. Once it is started other units can be started from it.

But power stations take a long time to heat up. It might take 2-3 days 
if the water has got cold in the boiler. it is not uncommon to take 
hours to come on line. Once things are synchronised, you can only 
increase generation in 3-5 mwatts per minute; which takes a while to get 
to full power - and then when you get over 100 MWatts it is slower as 
you then turn off the oil and run on coal.

And for a black start many switchboards need to be set up so that they 
are providing power to exactly the right place. This would take more 
than a day to design before you could even attempt to start any part of 
the station.

These stations have 60,000 drawings and many more manuals; and are over 
600 meters from one end to the other without cooling towers (In other 
words the building only).

                    -----------------------

And finally the DC systems - 200,000 KGrams of lead-acid batteries are 
used. They are on the top floor of the electrcical services centre above 
the technichians area and computer room - and the floors leak ...


Darryl Smith

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From: Dennis Wong <a15283@mindlink.net>
Subject: Re: Modems in Countries Other Than North America (US & Canada)
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:21:51 -0800
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Reply-To: a15283@mindlink.net


Nils Andersson wrote:

> In article <telecom16.642.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, bkron@netcom.com (W
> Halverson) writes:

>> Fortunately, DTMF tones are universal.

> At least they did something right. Just about everything else varies, for
> example:

> 1) Dial tones. Ever heard a british "humming" dial tone

The dial tone in some PBXs (the Cheap ones) are even more bizarre, they
sound like the Sprint calling card tone (call 1-800-877-8000 and you
will see what I mean). Also, the dial tone in China (Mainland) also
sounds like the sprint calling card tone.

> 2) Ring tones. The ring every six seconds is the international standard,
> but with many variations. The British "burr-burr" every 3.3 seconds or so
> is the most bizarre example. (Singapore and maybe other ex-British
> colonies [NOT US or Canada] use the the same burr-burr).

Some Mitel PBXs also have the "burr-burr" tone. In Hong Kong the ringing
tone has a frequency much like the North American ringing tone,EXCEPT it
has a "burr-burr" pattern much like in the U.K. The ringing tones in
Singapour, Australia, and India also ahve a "burr-burr" pattern, except
it has a higher frequency than the tone in the U.K. In most European
countries (except U.K.), Asia, South America, and Africa (except South
Africa), the ringing tone sounds like a single 400Hz tone that goes 2
second on, and 4 second off.

> 3) Busy tones. Fairly standard, I think. Comments anybody?

The busy tones in Hong Kong are the same as in North America. In China,
the busy tone sounds like the inturrupted Sprint Calling Card tone (0.5
seconds on, 0.5 seconds off etc.)

------------------------------

From: crs0794@inforamp.net (Geoffrey Welsh)
Subject: Re: Tormenting Telemarketers!
Date: 9 Dec 1996 07:13:03 GMT
Organization: Izot's Swamp


On 27 Oct 1996 11:14:01 -0500, in comp.dcom.telecom, glnfoote@freenet.
columbus.oh.us (Glenn Foote) wrote:

> The supply of replacement telemarketers will always exceed the demand.

 ... as will the supply of criminals and diseases.  I refuse to
condone any of the above, no matter how inevitable.

> Telemarketers come from _all_ backgrounds ... including some which are
> outright criminal in nature.  Some (note: _some_ , not all, or even many!)
> are capable of violence.  Few, if any telemarketing companies do even a
> routine background check.

 ... which is just one more reason why we should do everything we can
to make telemarketing an unprofitable business.

> The gathering (and selling) of lists containing your phone number will
> increase.  These lists include many things _in addition_ to your phone
> number. Like your address(s)! 

 ... which is just one more reason why we should do everything we can
to make telemarketing an unprofitable business.

> Telemarketing _is_ legal.  If you don't like it you should work to change
> that fact, but for the time being you will have to live with the issue.

Drugs and many other things are illegal, yet they continue because
they're profitable.  Where in the crime-fighting priority list do you
think telemarketing would fit, even if it were banned outright?!?

There is only one way to make telemarketing go away: make it
unprofitable.  The 'nicest' way to do this is for everyone to stop
buying anything pitched over the telephone, but there will always be
some poor sucker.  I think of myself as the balance to that person.
<grin>

Keep in mind that the caller always has the option of hanging up
if/when they realize that I'm wasting their time; I'm not exactly
keeping them prisoner and, more importantly, I intend to continue
conducting myself as if calling the telephone in my house were like
knocking on my door.

> The people who are calling you _are_ within the law (usually).  They may
> not like the work they do (but it _is_ honest and legal work), no matter
> what you think of it.  They have an excuse, and a legitimate reason, for
> their behavior.

Unh-hunh.  And my neighbour has an excuse and a legitimate reason for
spreading strongly scented manure on his lawn weekly, but that doesn't
mean I have to be nice to him in return.


Geoffrey Welsh, MIS Co-ordinator, InSystems Technologies (gwelsh@insystems.com)
     At home: xenitec.on.ca!zswamp!geoff; Temporary: crs0794@inforamp.net

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From: kamlet@infinet.com (Art Kamlet)
Subject: Re: Competing Local Telecom Providers: How's it Work?
Date: 9 Dec 1996 02:33:25 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Reply-To: kamlet@infinet.com


In article <telecom16.654.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, TELECOM Digest Editor
noted in response:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If they were actually competing, they
> would run wire to each premise, install instruments, etc. But as a
> matter of fact the 'competitors' have whined so much about it and
> claimed Bell had such an unfair advantage that regulatory agencies
> have required Bell to allow the 'competitors' to co-locate in the
> same central office. In some instances, they do not even bother
> with that formality; they just force Bell to sell to them wholesale
> at a deep discount so they can resell to the public cheaper than
> what Bell does ...

In fairness, the Bell companies have pretty much written off large
portions of their outside plant including local loops and much of
their central office equipment.

Pat, are you suggesting that new competitive access providers purchase
lots of new equipoment while the RBOCs have written that off (which
makes it a no-expense item to them)?  Sure, in years past the RBOCs
did buy all that, but they also collected tariffs based on that cost.
Now they have pretty much agreed with their utility commissions in
many jurisdictions that they become basically untied to equipment cost
(recovered and unrecovered) and char ge "lower than historic" tariffs.
But as depreciation costs and capital costs for that equipment don't
show up for the RBOCs, they would for the CAPs.

The solutions necessarily are political, and no one should be much
surprised when politcal commissions make political decisions.

> They cannot accept assignment
> of a group of phone numbers which in their opinion 'look funny'
> because this would also in their opinion be unfair, so Bell has to
> open up all sorts of new area codes so the 'competitors' can grab
> thousand upon thousands of phone numbers they will never manage
> to assign to anyone in the next twenty years. 

That's a real issue and since the NANP doesn't seem like anyone will
be expanding it anytime soon, (Hey, it did go from N0/1X-NNX to
N0/1X-NXX to N0/1X-NXX, but what have they done lately?) maybe some
method of charging CAPs and RBOCs for "their" reserved NXX-NXX
bandwidth (who charges?  who collects?) should be considered.  Costs
are a good way to control inventory.

> They even want to force Bell to include all their listings in the
> existing Bell directory because ... well, you guessed it....

Can't help wondering Donneley's wonder CEO, now AT&T's CEO-elect,
might have some other ideas about that direction?

> technology while the 'competitors' spend the next hundred years or so
> trying to catch up. So no, you won't see new wires brought to your
> premises in most instances. If it does happen, they will be Bell wires
> leased by the competitor to serve you. 

Wire or coax or fiber would combine well with large data services,
movies by phone, etc.   But if just voice/data is wanted, wireless
solutions would be more cost effficient and also avoid lots of
easement costs.


Art Kamlet   Columbus, Ohio    kamlet@infinet.com  

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From: wes.leatherock@hotelcal.com (Wes Leatherock)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 14:13:22 GMT
Organization: Hotel California BBS
Subject: Re: Competing Local Telecom Providers: How's it Work?


In his response to swb@mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Shawn Barnhart)'s
posting on how competing local telecom providers work, Pat wrote:

> The only thing they have not demanded and been granted thus far is
> that Bell be forced to revert to nineteenth century telephone
> technology while the 'competitors' spend the next hundred years or so
> trying to catch up. So no, you won't see new wires brought to your
> premises in most instances. If it does happen, they will be Bell wires
> leased by the competitor to serve you. You won't even see trunking and
> co-location all that often either. Most of the time it will amount to
> nothing more than accounting entries on the books of telco and the
> competitor.  A lot of the 'competitors' will be little more than
> reincarnations of our good friends, the Alternate Operator Services.
> The AOS' are essentially bottom-feeders; they serve no useful function
> except to charge a lot more than the 'real operators' for their
> services.    PAT]

       I saw a story in {The Daily Oklahoman} (Oklahoma City,
Oklahoma) the other day that I didn't have time to read fully, but it
appeared that AT&T (which is arguing with the Oklahoma Corporation
Commission, the regulatory agency) on terms for being a reseller of
Southwestern Bell Telephone services as a "competitor" is asking:

       That when SWBT sends out its employees to do work on their
plant serving AT&T customers that they be required to eliminate all
Southwestern Bell identification from vehicles, ID cars, uniforms (if
worn) or anything else that has SWBT identification on it, because
that might confuse customers (my understanding is that the "confusion"
would consist of customers realizing their "AT&T" service was still
provided by Southwestern Bell).


Wes Leatherock                                                             
wes.leatherock@hotelcal.com                                                 
wes.leatherock@origins.bbs.uoknor.edu                              

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Dialing Software and Areacode Overlays
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 00:10:36 -0800
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom16.654.13@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Christopher Wolf
<cwolf@micro.ti.com> wrote:

> Do you or any of your readers know how Win95 users in cities with new
> areacode overlays (like 713/281 in Houston) can get their systems to
> recognize when and when not to dial a 1 when using the dialing
> features built into Win95?  There must be numerous people that have
> found and addressed this problem -- what's the fix?

Well, actually, first of all, 713/281 was re-done as a split instead of
an overlay.  The boundary roughly approximates the Loop 8 Beltway (Sam
Houston Parkway/Tollway), if you're familiar with the Houston area.

There are not yet any "general services" overlays in effect, although
there are two in Maryland (301/240 and 410/443) next year, and one in
Pennsylvania (412/724) in 1997.  Area code 917 overlays 212 and 718 in
New York City, but it is only for pagers and cellular, at least for the
time being.

As for how various software products handle the situation, that's a mixed
bag.  There are a number of complications to consider, based on various
local dialing schemes.  Take, as an example, a user located in Fort Worth,
Texas (without considering yet the split planned for next spring).  Some
numbers in 817 are local and must be dialed as exactly the 7-digit local
number.  Other numbers in 817 are long distance (Waco, Wichita Falls, etc.)
and must be dialed as 1-817-NXX-XXXX.  Some numbers in 972 are local
("metro" numbers, and also other numbers if the Fort Worth user has "metro"
service), but others are long distance.  The local numbers must be dialed
as 972-NXX-XXXX, but the long distance numbers must be dialed with the
leading 1.  If the Fort Worth user has metro service, then all numbers
in 214 are local and must be dialed WITHOUT a leading 1; if she doesn't
have metro service, all numbers in 214 are long distance and must be dialed
WITH the leading 1.  In each case, there is one and only one method of
dialing a given number.

The way that most software packages account for this is by requiring the
user to adopt certain convenient fictions:

(1) I have no "home" area code, but I dial "1" as a long distance prefix.
(2) Local numbers in my area code are entered as only the 7-digit number.
(3) Local numbers in other area codes are entered with the area code
    field blank, and the full ten-digit number as the local number;
    e.g., (   ) 972-NXX-XXXX
(4) All long distance numbers are entered with area code and number;
    e.g., (972) NXX-XXXX.

Another possibility, based on the example user above, is:

(1) Define my "home" area code as 817, with a null "long distance prefix"
(2) Define any long distance numbers in 817 as being in area code "1817"
(3) Define any local numbers as being in 817, 972, 214, etc.
(4) Define any long distance numbers in other area codes as being in
    area code 1972, 1214, 1202, 1770, 1619, etc.

Of course, this all wreaks havoc if the user moves to a location with a
different local calling area.  The second scheme also causes problems if
you are ever dialing 0+; however, it more easily accommodates 10-digit
dialing in overlay situations -- just undefine the "home" area code.

I do my best to remain completely ignorant of Windows 95 :-)  but I'd
guess that it takes the approaches above.  The only alternative is to
keep an up-to-date database of local prefixes in your dialing software,
and I doubt anyone does that for a basic application such as you describe.

(Of course, the REAL solution is for the telcos in backwards states like
Texas to follow the standard, which requires that any call be *permitted*
to be dialed as 1-NPA-NXX-XXXX, irrespective of area code or toll status.
There is no cogent counterargument against this standard.  It does not in
any way dilute the protection of "1+ required on toll" in toll-alerting
areas.)


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Replacing a Cell Phone
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 00:27:46 -0800
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom16.654.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal
Arens) wrote:

> [question about upgrading or replacing a cellphone and trying to get the
>  ~ $300 subsidy again]

I was for a while employed by British Rail's Railfreight Distribution**
division (which I believe is by now fully privatised), in the office that
dealt with mobile phones.  In general, as a large corporate buyer rather
than an individual, what we had to do was:

- buy the phone at a modest discount from retail (reflecting our volume
  purchasing, but not any subsidy);
- commit to a minimum one-year contract for service;
- pay off the full value of the unused monthly service fees if the phone
  was disconnected for any reason, including theft, even if we immediately
  gave notice and replaced it with another cellphone from the same vendor;

I found the third item particularly galling -- the vendor was not losing
any revenue from our premature termination of the contract, so there was
no justification for the penalty, which often exceeded 200 pounds.  All
the major vendors gave the same line, though.

** also known as Brutish Rail's Realfright Disturbition


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: WebTV: Pricing and Access Issues (Stanley Cline)
    Re: WebTV: Pricing and Access Issues (Dave Harrison)
    Re: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective (Barry Margolius)
    Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges (Gordon Hlavenka)
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From: roamer1@RemoveThis.pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: WebTV: Pricing and Access Issues
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:00:31 GMT
Organization: Catoosa Computing Services
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Sun, 08 Dec 1996 13:54:22 -0800, you wrote:

> WebTV IS the ISP.  To determine if it's a local call, you can go to
> their home page and navigate until you find their local access
> indicator input selection.  In other words, it's a form where you put
> in your phone number.  WebTV then determines if you have a toll-free
> local access number.  However, I'd check your White Pages just to be
> sure.  In my case, both numbers they gave me were local.  But I'm in

<snip>

It appears that WebTV is leasing POP space from other "wholesale" ISPs
(such as UUNet, BBN Planet, PSINet, etc.)  I visited the WebTV web
page after reading the discussion here; for *Chattanooga* I was given
two prefixes:

(423) 756-xxxx
(423) 624-xxxx

Judging from the prefixes, I figure the 756 prefix is either UUNet or
BBN Planet (AOLNet, actually), and the 624 prefix is Concentric.  (I
don't know of ANY ISPs other than Concentric that have POPs in the
MCcallie CO.)

This jibes with the mention of IDT (who uses other ISPs' POPs) and
Concentric as "partners" with WebTV.

> For monthly access, I believe they need to be in the $12 per month
> range for unlimited access.  However, I'm going to urge them to offer
> an automatically tiered pricing.  In other words, $3.95 per month for

IMHO, $12 is horribly low for an ISP's price now; with that price the
POPs would fill up and be PERPETUALLY busy!  (AOL with its new unlimited
pricing is already reporting logjams.  If WebTV is in fact using the
same POP as AOL, it would be a nightmare!)

What I foresee coming with WebTV and similar technology:  integration of
*cable* internet access with the set-top box -- if WebTV grows in
popularity, phone networks will *really* gum up and cable access will
[or at least SHOULD] be the standard.  Besides, hooking a box that
connects to the TV to the phone line too is clunky.  (Yeah, DSS does it
for the PPV ordering, but...)

(I can see it now -- Comcast [the cable company here] renting a
cable-modem-equipped WebTV[-type device] just as they rent converter
boxes for HBO, etc.)


Stanley Cline (Roamer1 on IRC) ** GO BRAVES!  GO VOLS!
mailto:roamer1@pobox.com  **  http://pobox.com/~roamer1/
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From: Davew@cris.com (Dave Harrison)
Subject: Re: WebTV: Pricing and Access Issues
Date: 10 Dec 1996 10:18:09 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services


David Scott Lewis (thewebguy@acm.org) wrote:

[snip] 

> local access numbers for WebTV.  (The ISI think tank is about a
> stone's throw away from my residence; they have the fastest pipes in
> L.A., and through their MFS connection everyone seems to be hooked-in
> locally.)

[snip] 

Just a note about ISI, or "Los Nettos".  They have a T3 to MCI, and
a pipe to Mae-West, but, as of a month ago, weren't peering with
anyone at the Mae.

Los Nettos sells T3s, T1s, 56k, etc. and shared and dedicated ethernet
connections to ISP's and anyone else who wants a connection. There are
a LOT of ISP's in the same building as ISI ... they save on the leased
line and they get cheap service from ISI ... while other access
providers sell T3's for up to 27 grand a month, you can get one from
ISI for $8,250/month.  ISI's T1's are $920 a month, while elsewhere,
they range from 1000 to almost 3 grand.

We had a point-to-point esf T1 from a company that has a T3 to Los
Nettos.  Ciscos on each end. Basically, performance and throughput
left a lot to be desired. In addition, there were frequent outages and
routing problems that we were able to trace to the main router at Los
Nettos.

You get what ya pay for!

------------------------------

From: bfm@pobox.com (Barry Margolius)
Subject: Re: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:02:03 GMT
Organization: INTERNET AMERICA


Because things seem to change so quickly in the Internet world, I
would advise, even for a beginner, that they use an email redirection
service like usa.net or pobox.com as their email address.  Many
beginners are getting help from more advanced friends.  It's a shame
that WebTV doesn't support this addressing option.


Barry F Margolius, New York City 
bfm@pobox.com      For PGP Key, finger bfm@panix.com

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From: cgordon@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: 10 Dec 1996 06:31:09 GMT
Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services


On Sun, 08 Dec 1996 bfm@pobox.com said:

> ... it is conceivable that an 800 call from a
> payphone might not be free, but would still require no "quarter".
> The COCOT could charge the 800 provider the $0.35 (or whatever),
> and the 800 provider could pass it on to the customer.

I don't have a problem with this.  But I _do_ have a problem with
payphones charging the _caller_ for 800 calls.  The whole idea of 800
(and now 888) service is that the caller doesn't need to pay!  There
are several reasons for this:

One, already mentioned, is convenience.  If I want my daughter to be
able to call home from the swimming pool, a personal 800 number means
she doesn't need to carry a dime (excuse me -- a quarter (wait, it's
35 cents (no, it's 50 cents))) to call home.

How about, let's say, a spousal abuse hotline?  The old man just threw
her out on the street (literally) and she has no money at all.  Yeah,
you could go with collect in this situation but 800 would be a lot
easier for the clients, and in this case that's important.  How about
other hotlines; suicide prevention, for instance?  Crimebusters?

800 has, since its inception, been sold to the general public as a
"free call".  Now the rules are being changed.  As I said, I don't
mind (much) having to pay extra for calls made to my 800 number from a
payphone.  But it's not right (whatever _that_ means) to make the
caller pay for an 800 call.  Ever.


Gordon S. Hlavenka      cgordon@worldnet.att.net


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you are going to pass along the
COCOT 'surcharge' to the owner of the 800 number, what do you do in
cases where an 800 subscriber has a deal with his carrier to pay
just X cents per minute?  He says if the carrier is going to surcharge
him for calls coming from COCOTS, *then do not pass those calls on to
him*. I assume on my 800 number I am going to pay sixteen cents per
minute. If you call me from a COCOT and I am not aware of this (origin
of your call) should I then get a bill for an additional 35 cents or
whatever the COCOT owner wants?  What then prevents the COCOT owner
 from raising the 'surcharge' to a dollar or two dollars, as long as
he no longer has to fight with his customer to get the money? Are
800 subscribers to now be at the mercy of COCOTS just as people who
accept collect calls are at the mercy of the Alternate Operator Services
and whatever outrageous charges per minute they demand?     PAT]

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From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:20:37 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida


Nils Andersson (nilsphone@aol.com) wrote:

> In article <telecom16.645.10@massis.lcs.mit.edu>,

>>   dstott@juno.com (Dave J Stott) writes:

>> That's real world.  We're not poor, we're not COCOT dependent, we're
>> not interested in market-based pricing vs government regulation.  All
>> we care about is that my teenager can call home from where ever she
>> is, even if she forgets her quarter.

> The previous poster makes a good argument that "free 800" is not just
> an issue of money but of convenience/assessibility, as you do not
> always carry the right coins.  This is true, granted.

> This does not, however, solve the underlying problems. I firmly
> believe that payphone operators have a right to be reimbursed for any
> service they provide (just like the rest of us). There are various
> ways of doing this, having them being reimbusred by the owners of the
> 800 numbers, collectively or selectively or any which way is fine with
> me, on an owner-of-800 selects reimburesement or whatever.

> What irks me is the entitlement philosophy of the various posters,
> that they have a "right" to use somebody else's equipment without any
> payment.  The fact that the marginal cost is close to zero does not
> matter.

This is going to get messy; bear with me, folks.

The problem, Nils, is that the COCOT operators voluntarily decided to
get into the business, and now want to change the "rules" that that
business has operated under for decades.

Ok, admittedly, they may have a financially sound motivation for this
desire, although I'd be _really_ surprised if there was a good
justification for their not noticing for _13_ years ...

The "rule" I'm discussing is the implied contract that Dave feels that
he, and his daughter at swim practice, have with "the telephone
company".  For many, _many_ years, it has been possible to place a
call to a "so-called" toll-free number, without needing to carry any
money, and many, _many_ customers have taken advantage of this
capability.

COCOT operators got into that business knowing the "rules" -- and yes,
I quote it because I strongly suspect that it's not written down
anywhere, except possibly as a "standard" in some Bellcore document
like "BOC Notes" -- and what we're all complaining about, though most
of us hadn't examined it, is that those "rules" were for _our_ benefit.

Also, this proposed change reduces the value of an 800 number to a
fairly large class of potential INWATS customer, reducing potential
revenue from those customers ... I'd be surprised if the big three
don't come out against this for more than just the obvious reasons.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                        jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
Member of the Technical Staff                    Junk Mail Will Be Billed For.
The Suncoast Freenet      *FLASH: Craig Shergold aw'better; call 800-215-1333*
Tampa Bay, Florida    http://members.aol.com/kyop/rhps.html    +1 813 790 7592

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 09:57:47 -0400
From: Craig, Michael S. <msc1@mtt.ca>
Organization: Maritime Tel & Tel
Subject: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes


FYI, in Canada, there has been a consistent, albeit far from universal, 
use of N11 codes for a variety of deemed-to-be *public* services:

211	Not used
311	Not used
411	Directory Assistance (mirrors 1-NXX-555-12-12 ... used to be 
local-only, now covers NPA)
511	Not used* *has been used for separation of TDD and TTY Relay Services
611	Telco Repair Service
711	Relay Service (primary number: see 511 above)
811	Telco Business Office (customer service)
911	Emergency

This is far from universal in terms of everybody actually using the
codes, but at least the various provincial telcos have not put
contrary services in place at the end of these codes.  In general, Cdn
telcos have taken a cooperative / consensus approach to N11 usage and
have not supported the commercialization of N11 services.  This
position does acknowledge the existing / reasonable use of 611 and 811
as *telco* access numbers.

 From the perspective of a smaller telco (1/2 million NAS), there has been 
a pretty consistent concern for the calling habits of CFAs (come from 
aways) who may have used a particular code in a previous service area:  
for example, ... 911 (and to a lesser extent the European 999 equivalent) 
was routed to the operator to ensure the customer got *an answer* in the 
absence of true 911-Emergency service.


Michael Craig

------------------------------

From: macwhiz@phoebe.rochester.ican.net (Rob Levandowski)
Subject: Re: Competing Local Telecom Providers: How's it Work?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:46:54 -0500
Organization: MacWhiz Technologies


In article <telecom16.654.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, swb@mercury.campbell-
mithun.com (Shawn Barnhart) wrote:

> I was having a discussion with someone the other day about what's
> involved in forming one of the new, competing local telephone companies
> that the Telecom bill was supposed to have made legal.  I'm not an
> expert on telecommunications, and I was kind of curious how it was
> actually supposed to work.

> I can understand some of the infrastructure needs, but what about the
> circuits that terminate in a residence or place of business?  Will they
> be granted access to the existing phone company exchanges and only have
> to deal with trunking?  Or will they have to run wire to each and every
> customer in addition to the necessary trunking lines?

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If they were actually competing, they
> would run wire to each premise, install instruments, etc. But as a
> matter of fact the 'competitors' have whined so much about it and
> claimed Bell had such an unfair advantage that regulatory agencies
> have required Bell to allow the 'competitors' to co-locate in the
> same central office. ...] 

As I've mentioned in previous Digest postings :) I happen to live in
Rochester, New York, which was (to my knowledge) the first city in the
U.S.  to have true local telephone competition.  Rochester's
infrastructure created a unique situation.

The existing LEC, Rochester Telephone (the precursor to Frontier), is
not a RBOC.  RochTel successfully fought off Bell's advances into its
territory over the years.  Thus, RochTel was not subject to the same
degree of restriction as the RBOCs.

Seeing profit, RochTel approached the state about their idea for an
"Open Market Plan": RochTel would create a new holding company,
Frontier Corp., that would own Rochester Telephone (the existing
regulated dialtone provider), another Rochester Telephone company (the
owner of the physical plant), and various Frontier companies
(competitive unregulated dialtone, cellular, etc.).  Once divested in
this manner, the phys-plant company could resell the use of the wires
to other competitive telephone companies, as well as Frontier.  The
state approved the plan.  AT&T quickly showed interest in this idea.

Meanwhile, Greater Rochester Cablevision (a Time Warner company) was
still recovering from a massive ice storm during the winter of 1991 (?).  
That storm had damaged over 60% of the company's coax cable plant.
The company had already decided to turn tragedy into opportunity, and
rewire the entire system as a hybrid coax-fiber system, making it one
of the first such HFC cable systems in the nation.  The system would
offer a massive increase in the number of channels, and would enable
two-way communications.

GRC was able to interpret the Open Market Plan in a new way.  The OMP
required Rochester Telephone to provide transparent cross-connection
to competitive cable companies' switches, and it required other
important features such as number portability between providers.  The
expensive part of the OMP for any competitor was, of course, the use
of RochTel's wiring -- and RochTel gave very little discount.  As I
recall, AT&T stopped marketing their competitive service because the
"wholesale" rate they were given by RochTel amounted to about a 5%
discount -- insufficient to be profitable.

However, GRC now had its own cable plant that passed nearly every
house in the Rochester metro area, and which would support two-way
communications.  They had already begun using the network to provide
live remote newsfeeds -- they have a 24-hour local news channel, and
they can plug into the fiber network at a remote site, and feed
broadcast quality audio and video back to the headend studio.  The
idea was born: use the HFC cable network to provide telephone service.

With the introduction of this service, GRC changed its local name to
Time Warner Communications of Rochester.

When one changes from RochTel to TWC telephone service, the Rochester
Tel feed is disconnected at your demarc.  TWC installs a box on the
side of your house, next to the demarc.  The standard RG-6 coax cable
drop from their cable network attaches to this box.  If you subscribe
to TWC cable television, another RG-6 cable continues into the house.
A standard RJ11 jack connects to the demarc.  To all customer premises
equipment, the change is transparent: standard POTS signalling is
used.  Because the OMP included number portability, your phone number
does not change.  Initially, this was achieved by RochTel programming
their switches to forward changed lines to a new number on Time
Warner's switch (which you would not actually use directly).
Supposedly, a citywide database is now used to direct calls to the
appropriate LEC.

I would expect that other markets will begin to emulate the Rochester
model.  It's clear that HFC cable systems are the wave of the future,
and they offer the best chance of making competitive telephony
affordable to the corporations that will provide it.  Time Warner
announced today that they will be implementing digital cable
television over HFC networks in 1997, using digital set-top boxes that
receive upwards of 150 channels and provide Dolby AC-3 6-channel
digital sound (as seen in Dolby Digital movie theaters), as well as
something close to the WebTV units now available.  Time Warner has
also announced plans to provide Internet service over their HFC
network, using cable-to-Ethernet routers with 10Mbps download speeds.

I suspect that we may see the "traditional" phone companies investing
in HFC networks as well.  The HFC infrastructure is far more conducive
to Internet service, because you can provide massive bandwidth that is
shared, not switched, and is therefore used very efficiently.  Only
one television channel's bandwidth is needed for 10Mbps shared
download/768Kbps upload.  In Rochester, that bandwidth would be shared
by no more than 400 households (per node).  The limitations of the
xDSL technologies make it clear that they are stopgap measures at
best, as in a great many areas, they'll never work "well enough" due
to old copper, long runs, etc.


Robert Levandowski
Internet Systems Analyst, ACC Long Distance Corp.
macwhiz@phoebe.rochester.ican.net

------------------------------

From: Mark Smith <MSMITH@WalterGroup.com>
Subject: Wanted: French Speaking Telecom Experts
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:43:39 -0800
Organization: The Walter Group
Reply-To: msmith@waltergroup.com


I would like to know if any TELECOM Digest readers have an interest in
positions in an offshore network operation.  Could you help me locate
potentially interested parties?

I have a "soon to be urgent" need for French speaking telecom
professionals who might be interested in locating to Dakar, Senegal
for a time.  Pay and benefits are negotiable.

Senegal's PSTN is a modern network with cellular, paging, and
satellite communications infrastructure.  Positions that will becoming
open include:

1.  Associate General Manager
2.  Director of Marketing
3.  Director of Sales
4.  Director of Customer Service
5.  A senior cellular person that would fit the role of product manager,
someone with engineering and marketing experience in cellular.

I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me in locating or
suggesting where I may locate any interested parties.


Mark T. Smith     msmith@waltergroup.com
Project Manager   The Walter Group

------------------------------

From: simkin@eis.mot.com (Yakov Simkin)
Subject: Blue Alarm on Fractional T1
Reply-To: simkin@eis.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:08:11 GMT


I am looking for standard that regulates Blue Alarm transfer on
Fractional T1 connection.  Some sources say that FT1 is served as a
regular DS1 (DS1 rate) so Blue Alarm would appear as unframed all 1s.
But I heard that some providers supply just selected DS0 with reduced
rate. How do they signal Blue Alarm and what document describes it?
What is the background of particular Tarif (15?) in this case?  

If two of my boxes are connected with FT1 over PSTN and provider's
multiplexer lost signal from another client sharing T1 with me while
my portion is OK will I get Blue alarm on another end?

I would appreciate your advice.


Regards,

Yakov Simkin      MOTOROLA, INC
IL02 Rm. 4100A    1307 East Algonquin Rd.
Schaumburg IL 60196   phone: 847-538-6959
FAX: 847-576-6150     pager:800-skypage, pin 5658605
simkin@ssd.comm.mot.com

------------------------------

From: Doug_Merrill@rand.org (Douglas Merrill)
Subject: Eastern Europe PSN Infrastructure, Equipment?
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:57:47 GMT
Organization: RAND
Reply-To: Doug_Merrill@rand.org


Hi to all,

I've been asked to "get smart" about the telecommunications
infrastructure in Eastern Europe.  I'm assuming that means I should
know the kinds of lines, etc., available; services; switch types; etc.

Does anybody have a good source for data, descriptions, etc., of
Eastern European telecommunications?


Cheers, 

DCM

------------------------------

From: Dr. R. Canaday <rcanaday@interport.net>
Subject: Last Laugh! Virus Alert
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:19:51 -0500


Pat,

I received this from a friend.


Ron

  From: 	Tony Tarinelli[SMTP:ttarinelli@reedref.com]
  Sent: 	Friday, December 06, 1996 10:30
  To:           (then follows a humongous list with hundreds of
                names; none of these fools have ever learned
                how to use the bcc when sending out their dire
                warnings.  PAT)

  Cc: 	selsheri@reedref.com
  Subject: 	Virus Alert
  TO:    All Internet Users                               12/4/96
  FROM:  Network Services

RE:  INTERNET E-MAIL VIRUS
     SUBJECT "FREE MONEY"

The National Computer Security Assoc. has issued the following warning
to all Internet users: There is a computer virus that is being sent
across the Internet.  If you receive an e-mail message with the
subject line "Free Money", DO NOT read the message.  DELETE it
immediately.

                     -----------------

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:  Oh wow! Hey virus or not, most people
I know automatically delete 'Free Money' and 'Make Money Fast' messages
unread anyway.  Wouldn't it be a hoot if this 'virus warning' was just
intended to cloud the issue a little with the continuing problem of 
email spam ... so the next bunch of Free/Easy/Fast Money spammers with
their chain letters, etc find them all deleted by a millions of
frightened netters thinking a virus has infested their computer. I must 
say attacking the junk emailers by claiming their mail has a virus
embedded in it is a new twist; and sort of funny also!     PAT]

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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 12 Dec 96 00:26:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 657

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News (H. Gorman)
    Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News (John Levine)
    Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News (Randy Miller)
    Re: The Opposition Point of View:  My Response (TELECOM Digest Editor)

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From: hillary@netaxs.com (Hillary Gorman)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:20:36 -0500
Organization: Packet Shredders Anonymous


In article <telecom16.652.2@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, TELECOM Digest Editor
noted in response to article forwarded by monty@roscom.COM:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I in general support the CDA although
> I see some problems with the way it is written  and wish that instead

[snip]

> I hope this does not turn out to be a situation where 'a battle is
> won but the war was lost'. I see some real problems with CDA as it
> is written, but I can sympathize with the views expressed by its
> proponents as well, and frankly, the intellectual dishonesty (and
> I will suggest) fraud perpetrated on the Court by the opponents of
> CDA in Philadelphia almost has me to the point I hope CDA is ruled 
> to be constitutional.  Honestly, I wish Monty Solomon and others 
> would quit sending me this junk-email ... and that is what it is.
> All it does is make me more angry each time I read it.   PAT]  

Wow. I'm shocked. I echo your final comment -- but about what YOU have
to say! It makes me more angry each time I read it!

In all seriousness, no flames, I'm a civil type of person, I try to be
friendly - could you please advise me as to how *exactly* you believe
the ACLU demonstrated "intellectual dishonesty" or "fraud"? And
exactly what technical solution you have to offer, with regard to how
we [we=ISP admins] are supposed to monitor everything flowing through
our network for content? 

I would absolutely *love* to hear of a software solution which would
allow monitoring for content which would a) work, b) not require us to
hire 10 new people c) not require us to dedicate several entire
machines simply to do the work of checking through the MASSIVE amounts
of traffic that flow through our several T3s on a daily basis. We're
not a huge company - 3000 or so dialup users - but we have something
like 20 or so downstream ISPs who buy T1s from us ... we'd have to check
everything THEIR users came up with also ... insanity, in my
mind.  

Please.  Enlighten me.  I'm dying to hear how this could work. So far,
I haven't heard one solution that sounded feasible for a small company
with only about ten employees, or that would actually WORK even 90% of
the time without also blocking traffic related to medical or
psychological/psychosocial issues.


Thanks!!!

hillary gorman     http://www.hillary.net     info@hillary.net
              "to err is human; to moo, bovine."


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: See my response at the end of this
thread in this current issue.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 19:21:00 EST
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


> What was really insulting in the earlier litigation regards CDA was
> how the ACLU instructed their witnesses to just get up in court and
> lie about the technical aspects of the net, making all those outlandish
> claims about the technical difficulties involved in affording some
> modicum of policing.

Uh, could you refresh our memory about those lies?  I recall an
ill-prepared government witness with an impractical proposal to tag
each packet with a "decency bit".

I have a small daughter, and I certainly have no interest subjecting
her to pictures of people copulating with farm animals or whatever
this week's scary example is, but the CDA is the wrong answer to the
wrong question.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I'll also respond to you shortly.  PAT]

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From: miller@compex.com (Randy Miller)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:31:12 GMT
Organization: Erol's Internet Services


On Sat, 7 Dec 1996 03:18:51 -0500, our esteemed Moderator wrote:


> There *are* technical solutions to the problems FRC sees with the net,
> and there are relatively easy ways to implement some changes which
> ought to appease FRC while at the same time posing little or no addi-
> tional burden on the net. We do have to co-exist with the rest of the
> world you know. Other people have a right to use the net also, you
> know. That may come as a complete surprise to the folks at the ACLU
> and all the librarians, but other users of the net actually have the
> right to enjoy the web and not have to worry about their kids getting
> into territories they should stay out of.  

This is one time I, as a librarian, have to disagree with you, Pat.
Granted, I'd rather not put something like Madonna's Sex or Lady
Chatterly's Lover on the shelf (After working as a DoD contractor for
almost 4 years, CYA and CYOFA are my motto.)  However, from my
experience (since I normally don't agree with the femiNazis (to borrow
from Rush Limbaugh, who I also loathe)), I make two conclusions:

1.  We in the library profession have always had the attitude of
"we're doing this because it's for your own good!"  Most of the furor
that gets created is because the librarians do not take into
consideration the clientele they are serving.  For example, I lived in
Marengo, IL for almost four years.  After being around Marge Smith at the
district library for that period of time, I've come to the conclusion
that what they teach us in graduate school (which is another farce in
itself), is mostly irrelevant when it comes to serving the needs of
the community.  

The biggest mistake we make, as a profession, is NOT doing any kind of
(perish the thought, a big business concept) market research.  What
passes for normal in New York City, doesn't necesssarily pass for
normal in Paradise, PA.  Too many of us library professionals (myself
included) have gotten into the habit lumping obscene and controversial
together.  As my old clarinet teacher said, "what's music to one
person, is noise to another."

2.  I do agree with you that there are others that use the net.
However, I do believe that the parents should control what their
children see.  The big problem is that most parents either 1) have
massive technophobia (like my mother, who even refuses to have a touch
tone phone in the house, even though GTE no longer has rotary service
in her area.  I still get the major bitchout job about having a PC in
the house, for better or worse.  I won't even bother trying to show
her the web, since she has completely bought the mass media line of
porno on the web.  Besides, to her, anything she doesn't understand is
stupidity, and is to be trashed on sight.), or 2) they don't give a
damn what the kids are up to.  Many are the times I told the stories
here of the private music studio I used to run.  Most of the students
I considered of "not being worthy of learning an instrument" tended to
come from homes where the prevailing attitude was "gimme my beer, my
TV, and screw everything else."

In short, the net should be free from this garbage they call the CDA.
Unfortunately, very few parents want to take responsibility for their
children, from my experience.  Remember, as the old saying goes, with
freedom, comes responsibility, which I find very few people taking on
nowadays.


Randy   miller@compex.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for a great reply. What you
say makes a great deal of sense. I'll comment more in the next
message to follow.    PAT]

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From: TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu>
Subjedt: The Opposition Point of View: My Response
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:15:00 EST


Thanks to one and all who wrote rebuttals on this topic. The three
above are typical of them all. To start my response, I think I should
make a few of my beliefs clear:

1) Indeed, the first and primary responsibility falls on parents. The
parents should take control. Many do, some do not.

Therefore, in our society we pass certain laws pertaining to the
protection of children, not leaving any option available to parents.

We insist that children go to school. Some school, any school, but
they have to attend until a certain age. We assume most parents would
feel the same way, but nonetheless we have it as a law. The fact that
some will be absent quite often ('play hookey') and the fact that some
will be disruptive or learn little or nothing in the process does not
deter us from formally stating the public policy of our society by
codifying our requirements that children be in school. We hope that
they become educated as a result.  A good policy I think.

We have laws against minors having the ability to purchase or be
served alcoholic beverages.  Again, we assume most parents would feel
the same way, but nonetheless, we have it as a law. The fact that some
minors will (1) acquire false identification to use in deceiving a
merchant; (2) visit merchants willing to violate the law; (3) engage
the services of an older adult willing to make the purchase for them;
(4) have parents who do not care and allow their children to drink
does not deter us from stating the public policy of our society by passing
a law saying 'minors may not purchase or drink alcoholic beverages.'
Now, do teenage boys like to drink beer they convinced their older
buddies to buy for them?  Do they get drunk, and as a result get
into automobile accidents, etc?  Of course. But we still have the
law; we assume most parents help enforce the law by supervising their
children as best they can, etc.  I think it is a good policy that
we as a society make the statement we do about minors and alcohol.

Ditto with cigarettes ... we have parental disapproval (in many cases
but certainly not all) ... we have laws against it which were passed
as a reflection of our beliefs as a society.  Do kids smoke? Do
they buy cigarettes with the help and connivance of merchants who
wink at the law about checking identification for age? Do they go
home and hide their cigarettes from their mother? But we still put a
law out there which we say is our goal and desire as a society.

We do not allow minors to patronize 'adult' places of business such
as 'adult' book stores. For the uninitiated, those are places where
one seldom buys books (although you can) but rather one usually gives
the cashier a few dollars in exchange for tokens to use for
admission to little private stalls where one can sit and view sex
movies at the rate of a minute or so per token. Whatever else occurs
in the privacy of the little stall is, I suppose, the business of
the occupant, although some communities like Chicago even have a few
ordinances on the books governing one's behavior while seated therein,
and the ordinances are plainly posted inside each stall: "You will not
engage in X, Y or Z while in this booth. Offenders subject to fine."
Do teenage guys get 'dirty books' to look at?  Of course. Do they
hide them from their mother? Of course. We assume parents are doing
what they can (perhaps a broad assumption) but we still express our
society's goals by codifying them, or making them into laws.

No amount of laws or parental guidance has ever prevented a child from
getting into trouble. No one has ever claimed that a law will do it
all, or that parents are doing nothing to help. 

2) Second belief of mine: in the current context, no single act by any
ISP or network is going to cure the problems with the net as seen by
groups like FRC.  No group of actions or concerted effort by ISPs and
networks is ever going to catch every single instance of malfeasance.
All that will ever happen -- assuming a community effort by netters to
work along with the rest of the world -- is that a large number of
stumbling blocks will make it **much more difficult** for minors to
be *routinely exposed* to those things on the net which FRC, some
(perhaps most) parents, and society in general believes are not good
for children to see/read.

Will teenagers who want to flaunt the rules find ways to do so?  Of
course they will. I am assuming however just as there are a large
number of kids who do not drink/smoke because it is against the law
for them to do so, there will be a large number who obey a law about
what they are and are not permitted to access on the net. Parents who
do try to govern their children will be encouraged by the support
given by society and parents who are marginal in this way may become
somewhat more concerned and active also. 

3) My third belief: Yes, CDA was not well written. They should have
never touched on 'indecency' and instead used the term 'obscenity'
since the latter is already defined and has no constitutional protection.
As many have pointed out, 'indecent' leaves things pretty wide open.
I'll grant you that the Supreme Court has no business writing the
laws; their job is merely to interpret the laws already written and
rule on them.

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Now with that in mind, let us continue.  Remember, none of these
things *by themselves* will cure anything. All of them put together
will not totally eliminate the problems the FRC wants to cure. All
of them put together will however be of much help.

Hillary wants to know what is a poor sysadmin to do? She suggests
hiring ten additional people to 'read everything' in the news every
day. No, not at all ... instead, try the appproach suggested by 
mcs.net here in Chicago, which they are publicizing widely in their 
advertising: they do not carry newsgroups which *on their face* are
intended as ways to exploit children; ie the newsgroups which by their
title suggest advocacy of pedophilia. The recent advertisement by
mcs.net lists about a dozen newsgroups. I suppose it would take
Hillary thirty seconds to call up an editor and cut a few lines out
of the system-wide .newsrc file. What you are saying is your site
does not receive those groups and does not pass them along. There is
no censorship involved; the computer is private property, and if your
downstream wants those groups they are always free to go get them
somewhere else. And don't worry, they'll still be around; there will
always be sites willing to carry them. As mcs.net pointed out in its
advertisement, a survey of a few dozen ISPs found that about half
said they never 'censor' newsgroups in any way, shape or form. But
you say, not at this site. Go elsewhere. That is the stance mcs.net
has adopted. 

Common rebuttal: if deprived of mass circulation of their newsgroup,
'those people' will start posting in other groups. Okay, so what?
That's not your problem. Let them deal with the flame war sure to
result when they post in some totally unrelated group. 

Kids don't have to go in taverns -- where they are forbidden by law
to be -- in order to find some beer to drink. They don't have to go
to an adult bookstore in order to find a 'friendly' adult willing to
explain the facts of life to them. But that is not the problem of
the tavern owner or the bookstore manager who work to keep those 
situations from occuring *on their own premises, in situations under
their direct control*. 

Another rebuttal: new groups will start all the time. We will have
to examine every new newsgroup that is started. As 'newgroup' control
messages come along, either they would appear to be acceptable or
they would appear to not be acceptable. Either you honor the 'newgroup'
message or you do not honor it. Again, not a major undertaking. You
do not literally read every single message in every single group any
more than you need to go into a tavern to see if they sell ginger ale
or potato chips as well as booze. We just say on its face, we do not
want to distribute this to an unregulated, uncontrolled subscriber
base which includes children. 

                       --------------------

Am I the only person who knows the purpose of, and how to use .http-access
files in connection with a web page? The presence of such a file in a
directory causes various things to happen: depending on what you put
in the file, you can deny access to a given user and/or site; you can
deny access to all but a select few users/sites, etc. So Hillary and
other sysadmins, why not teach your web customers how to install and
use .http-access files as a way to control who gets to see their page?

For instance, suppose you denied access to '@u18.' wildcard ... meaning
any site that had '.u18' as part of its name was denied viewing. Now
suppose on the flip side of the coin, you (if you even have the
possibility of underage subscribers) take one of your machines and
give it -- in addition to its regular name -- an *alias* of 'u18', and
anytime that machine makes any outbound connection anywhere on the
net it introduces itself as 'u18.the.rest.of.its.name' ... actually
I think you would name the machine 'u18' and its 'alias' would be 
the regular name it has had all along, so that your users need not
know anything at all about the 'u18' part ... 

Now, starting with your next billing cycle, and continuing over a
period of several months with *existing users* and from the start
with *new users* you require your user to certify to the following:
"I am of legal majority age in the state in which I reside". In other
words, the person is 18 years of age or older. With new users, you
might decide to have them submit a photocopy of a driver's license
or birth certificate. With existing users, do something; do not 
inconvenience your admins and do not unduly annoy your users. Just
phase them in over a period of time. 

Those who do not certify or offer proof, etc get placed on the
'u18' machine. Those who do get placed elsewhere. Now we no longer
have to worry about 'decency bits' or whatever they called them. You
decide which of the web pages on your site should be restricted in the
same way you decide which newsgroups will not be carried: a cursory
glance through the page at the time it is installed. If it appears
*on its face* to have adult content and appeal to an adult audience
you require that user to implement an .http-access file. Or maybe you
default all web pages at your site in that way and only back them
out into a general category on specific request of the web page owner.

I hear the objections rolling in already: 

(1) the web page owners will cheat and not deny access to u18. Of 
course some will. There are merchants who sell cigarettes to minors
knowing good and well the kid is not old enough.  There are bartenders
who do not bother to check identification. Sometimes they get caught,
sometimes not. That's not your problem. You have set the rules for
your site; you reserve the right to audit your users and drop those
who by their activities jeopardize your site.  Hey ... many a sysadmin
has dropped a user for spamming and junk-emailing; many times the
admin found out about it when a million netters wrote to tell him.
It was not called 'censorship' by anyone except the offensive user.
Why not try dropping those users who refuse to categorize themselves
as 'adult' when such is the case? ***Note I did not say drop those
who operate adult web pages; I said drop those who refuse to lock
out minors from viewing adult material or who lie to you (the admin)
and claim they are not when you find out they are, etc***. Is the
goodwill of one user worth having the authorities come down on you
and possibly hassle your entire site?  I think not.

(2) not only will the web page owners cheat, the kids will cheat.
See, says Hillary, (and don't take it personally, I am using her
as a generic example), I told you there was nothing we could do
about it!   <grin> ...

Well gosh then let's drop all the liquor licensing laws and the
laws about being of a certain age to smoke or drive a car or drop
out of school ... after all, clever, mischevious children will
always find work arounds ...

  a) they'll sign up with false identification ... sure, and kids
     never use false id to buy beer do they?

  b) they are too clever! They'll find ways to hack right into the
     stuff they want to see. Yep, that's right, and its not your
     problem as long as you took reasonable efforts to prevent it.

Some assumptions are being made by me here. One is that *most kids*
obey the law. Another is that *most parents*  want to see their kids
obey the law and will aprreciate having the law to 'back them up'
in their own governance of their children. A few parents won't care,
and a few kids will cheat. But parents who don't care has never
stopped dedicated school teachers from trying to do their best to
educate kids, and it should not stop a dedicated sysadmin who
generally accepts the community's policy that children should not
be exposed to certain things before a certain age, etc. You cannot
help what parents do, and you cannot help what kids may do. All you
can be responsible for is having your own technical safeguards in
place in cooperation with other sites and doing what you can to
police the conduct of your own users and visitors to your site. 

And you see, I've a feeling that *good faith* will go a long way toward
creating some good will between the net and groups like FRC. 

                     --------------------

Speaking of good faith and good will among people I believe very
strongly that none whatsoever has been shown by netters in this
matter. At least not by those who have self-appointed themselves
as our leaders.

Remember Senator Exxon? Way back then ... more than two years ago
or so, when all this hullabaloo was first coming up ... the net's
response was to protest, to demonstrate, to throw tantrums, to
mail bomb everyone involved. We were told to turn our web pages
black, all sorts of responses and schemes were devised to 'get
even' ... not once did anyone say let's go over and talk to the
man and see what it is exactly he wants and try to find some way
to appease those people. 

Why did no one go to Exxon (again, I am using him as a generic
example) and say something like this ...

  "Look, technically what you are asking is very difficult; almost
   impossible to do while still keeping some semblance of the net
   as it has always operated. But senator, a lot of us do agree
   with your basic premise that young kids are getting exposed to
   a lot of stuff on the net which isn't that wholesome or good
   for them. None of us who have been around for years on the net
   ever really concieved of the way it would grow and the kinds of
   things that would get transmitted over it. None of the protections
   you are talking about now were ever built into the Internet, and
   to try and retrofit it now would be very difficult. As you may
   have heard senator, originally we on the net all operated with
   trust and a lot of good will; sadly that's been gone from the
   net for a long time now.

   "What we can do senator is this: we can pretty easily phase in
   some of the protections you are looking for. Over a period of
   two to three years, we should be able to identify parts of the 
   net which are adult in nature and pretty well segregate it from
   view by young children. There are ways to restrict sites on the
   net from contacting other sites on the net and instead of trying
   to identify the adult sites -- because we get into a lot of
   First Amendment hassles -- we will probably begin moving the
   kids onto machines which are restricted in the contacts they
   can establish. We'll ask the adult sites to deny access to
   machines used by kids, and there will be a lot of peer pressure
   from within the net commmunity to obtain cooperation. 

   Senator, suppose we use the term 'obscenity' instead of 'indecency'
   as the cut-off point. It has already been defined, it has no
   First Amendment protection and it will make this job easier for
   all of us. You are really trying to mostly target child
   pornography, aren't you senator?  A lot of the people on the
   net would strongly agree with you on that point. If we could
   take aim at specific areas that you feel need review instead
   of just using the broad and poorly-defined term 'indecency'
   it will wind up saving us a lot of litigation and debate and
   red-herrings being tossed into the pot as we go along.

   Now senator, the Unix gurus on the net and the software experts
   with Netscape and things like that would probably take this
   seriously and start putting together something that would have
   the effect of eliminating about 85-90 percent of the problems
   you perceive *as long as everyone played by the rules*, but
   there are some things the net can never control. We need the
   parents to take an active part in this. Computers need to be
   located in family rooms where the entire family can participate
   rather than in a child's bedroom where he can sneak into places
   on the net where he should not be after everyone else in the
   family is asleep. Parents need to know about the friends their
   children are making on the net the same as they need to know
   about adults who have allowed their children to visit their 
   homes. You see senator, the net is getting pretty realistic
   these days. Some call it a virtual reality. Some say the net
   is getting to be as dangerous as the rest of the world is in
   realtime, but a lot of us think the net is just as good and
   honest and decent as the majority of the population. 

   Some long time, very well respected netters would probably begin
   promoting a system of 'virtual licensing' for web pages and news
   groups similar to the sale of alcohol and cigarettes and dirty
   books in the real world -- where kids are not allowed to be
   part of it -- as long as they had your word that you would work
   on the parents. There has to be voluntary cooperation by the kids
   you know; the best software in the world can put up obstacle
   courses the same way the police in real life can deter crime to
   a point; but the citizens have to agree to voluntarily obey.

   And one other thing senator. A lot of the 'cogs in the wheel'
   of the net, people like the ISPs, the sysadmins at various sites,
   the people who assist users at the local level; it will be a lot
   easier to get their cooperation in this reform of the net --
   which many of them agree is needed -- provided they know for sure
   that enforcement of any laws passed is directed to the end users
   on both sides; that is the kids at their computer who violate
   a law pertaining to what they can and cannot access as well as
   the users who wilfully allow the kids to access the sort of 
   information so many of your constituents have found objectionable.  
   You don't go after the phone company because two users on either  
   end of the wire talk dirty to each other. Well senator, it is
   a lot the same with ISPs. No, they are not legally common
   carriers, but for all intents and purposes they are. It really
   is hard for them to police everything passing through in a day's
   time. A lot of them will be glad to work along with the rest of
   the net community on what we are proposing here as long as they
   are assured they personally are immune to prosecution on stuff
   passing through their site. They are very defensive right now
   senator, because they think you are going to 'get personal' with
   them. 

   So senator, if we put up some obstacle courses making it harder
   for kids to see stuff that's obscene, can we depend on you to
   help us publicize it? Can we depend on you to write the law so
   the ISPs and system admins don't get stuck in the middle everytime
   some kid figures out a loophole or some crafty pedophile manages
   to hurt some child? And senator, we will even let you take the
   the credit for it all. <smile> ... everyone will realize that it
   was through your expert leadership that America's children are
   a lot safer than they were before. Allow two to three years for
   the project to be finished senator. There is some software to
   be written and installed, and a re-alignment of users from one
   machine to another. In the meantime, maybe your staff could
   get started on the parents and the kids; get them primed and
   prepped and understanding how important it is that they follow
   the new law, etc. "

                  =============================

So instead of the net taking control of this situation from the very
beginning when the handwriting was seen on the wall, instead we
blew it. Some would say that we catch more flies with honey than
we do with vinegar. Others would say that you do not 'fight fire
with fire', you fight fire with a fire extinquisher ...  

And *we* (yes I mean we, the net) could have participated in drafting
a law which would have been very favorable to us, or indeed maybe
no law would have been written at all. Now instead we have to hope
for the best with the developments at hand. If they win, we lose;
if we win, we still lose. Because if we win, then they start on 
the next issue, which I believe will be copyright.  

This is what I mean by the intellectual dishonesty of the people who
led this from the beginning. They knew all they were doing was just
screwing up the net ... with their bogus arguments and theories.
Very few of you have any business talking about censorship for the
same reason I have little business talking about it; I do not own
the computer upon which this is published and very few of you have
any property rights where the network or your local site is concerned.
You are there with the blessings of your corporate employer who will
let you talk smart and sassy until he finally gets tired of it and
then fires you.  Same here ... let's not kid around with censorship.

It is true the government witness was just terrible. Very poorly
informed, etc. But then instead of presenting an *honest* picture
of the net, *our side* (well they did not represent me!) presents
this total fabrication of how things work with the end result
being that a semi-retired prissy old-maid librarian who helps some
child log on to the net only to have the child do a search on 
Alta Vista and turn up some string with a four letter combination
in the middle somewhere considered 'indecent' gets sentenced to
life in prison. All the librarians are now frantic.  So the soloists
of the American Civil Liberties Union assisted by the choir of the
American Library Association and others perform this tragic opera
for the court. What the judges know about computers could be written
on the head of a pin. Being respectful of the First Amendment, they
go out of their way to avoid violating it. 

To John Levine, I agree the way it is written is not very good. So 
damned if the court approves it and damned if they don't. You are so
good at teaching things to Dummies (your book was great by the way),
how come you did not get Exxon and his buddies straightened out a
couple years ago?  Why didn't you counter him; shall we say match his
bid and raise it?

To Hillary, all I can say is we went through this before, you and I.
Get in your system .newsrc file today and go snip-snip here and
snip-snip there. Then forget about it. Just do that little bit to
help, okay?


Patrick Townson

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    Re: Win95 and Areacode Overlays (trumanjs@primenet.com)
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    Re: Win95 and Areacode Overlays (Toby Nixon)
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From: trumanjs@primenet.com
Subject: Re: Win95 and Areacode Overlays
Date: 10 Dec 1996 08:36:03 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet


When programming the Win 95 dialer leave the area code field blank and
under telephone number enter 281-XXX-XXXX. As far as I know Atlanta,
Dallas and Houston have to use this scheme if they are in one area
code and the ISP dialup is in another.

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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: Win95 and Areacode Overlays
Date: 9 Dec 1996 20:26:16 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.654.13@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Christopher Wolf
<cwolf@micro.ti.com> writes:

> Do you or any of your readers know how Win95 users in cities with new
> areacode overlays (like 713/281 in Houston) can get their systems to
> recognize when and when not to dial a 1 when using the dialing
> features built into Win95?  There must be numerous people that have
> found and addressed this problem -- what's the fix?

I  do not know how the dialler in Win95 works, but there are several
generic solutions.

1) Program all numbers with area codes, including local. Tell your dialler
to always add the one. (You will have problems with international)

2) Program all numbers with 1+ac+number. Tell your dialler never to
include a one. (It probably won't anyway, the number will not look as if
it started with an area code).

NOTE: Since Jan 95, all areas are "supposed to" accept 1+own area code
+ number, but this is not universally implemented. Example: Carson
City to Reno, same ac will not accept 1-702-xxx-xxxx.

By the way, with the advent of comm equipment being carried around the
world, there is an immediate need for allowing "same country country code"
also. GSM already allows this, you can program your phone with e.g.
+1-818-555 1212 and it will dial that number from any country. (The GSM
switch edits this string as necessary before pumping it out to the
landline network.)

Obviously, some of the smarts can be put in the dialler software, but
wouldn't it be nice to merely edit in the international access code
for the country you are in (should be standardized to 00 BTW, but
until that is done, it is relatively painless to reprogram your
dialler to "current international prefix"). Then you enter all your
numbers as cc+ac+number in your database. Thus, in the NANP,
011-1-ac-number should be made to work!).

I obviosly realize that the software can be jimmied, e.g. by entering a
null international prefix, the cc =1 will be taken as initial 1, and the
call will actually work! HInts to programmers of diallers etc. 

To summarize:

To Bellcore and telcos:

Make 011-1-ac-number work.

To dialler software programmers: 

Consider the international case, and that the caller may move from one
country to the next!


Regards,

Nils Andersson

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From: Toby Nixon <tnixon@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: Re: Win95 and Areacode Overlays
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:45:44 -0800


In TELECOM Digest V16 #654, Christopher Wolf asked:

> Do you or any of your readers know how Win95 users in cities with new
> areacode overlays (like 713/281 in Houston) can get their systems to
> recognize when and when not to dial a 1 when using the dialing
> features built into Win95?  There must be numerous people that have
> found and addressed this problem -- what's the fix?

Microsoft is working on a fix for this that will ship in future upgrades to
Windows 95 and Windows NT 4.0. In the meantime, the best workaround is to
enter your area code in the Area Code field, and the entire 10-digit local
number into the "Phone Number" field of your application, such as Dial-up
Networking, like this (assuming you're in 713 and dialing 281-555-1234 as a
local call):

Country Code:		United States of America
Area Code:		713
Phone Number:		2815551234

The Telephony part of Windows 95 (and Windows NT 4.0) will match the area
code to the area code you entered in Dialing Properties, and treat the call
as a local call, omitting the  "1" prefix for long distance calls. the length
of the local number is not checked, so the result will be that all ten digits
get dialed.

The main disadvantage of this workaround is that it defeats the "location
independence" that Dialing Properties is intended to provide. If this was a
notebook PC, you took it to New York, and set you dialing properties so the
area code was 212, it would dial "1-713-2815551234", which obviously wouldn't
work. You would need to have TWO connection settings, one for use in 713, and
one for use everywhere else (including 281!). Like I said, it's a workaround,
not a solution. It doesn't hurt you on desktop systems, though.

The solution we're working on will allow you to specify, on a
location-by-location basis, how to dial calls to particular NPA-NXX pairs (as
7 digits [the default if the NPA is the same as the current location], 10
digits, or 11 digits [the default if the NPA is different]). It won't be easy
to configure, but, unfortunately, that's the penalty we pay for the LECs and
PUCs being unable to agree on a permissive 11-digit dialing plan (which 11
states already have).


Toby Nixon, Program Manager, Microsoft Corporation

------------------------------

From: Christopher W. Boone <cboone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Win95 and Areacode Overlays
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 07:17:13 -0800
Organization: ABC Radio Network Engineering - Dallas


Christopher Wolf wrote:

> Do you or any of your readers know how Win95 users in cities with new
> areacode overlays (like 713/281 in Houston) can get their systems to
> recognize when and when not to dial a 1 when using the dialing
> features built into Win95?  There must be numerous people that have
> found and addressed this problem -- what's the fix?

Houston is NOT an overlay ... it became a split as of November 2, 1996.

The 713 NPA is completely inside the Beltway and the 281 NPA is outside 
and covers the subburbs of Metro Houston

But in an overlay, you must dial ten digits ... and have ALL the local 
prefixes to your exchange entered if you dont wish to dial a 1+.


Chris

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 1996 22:08:59 +0000
From: Clive D.W. Feather <Clive@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>
Reply-To: clive@demon.net
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call (was Re: Further Notes on Use of 555)
Organization: Clive's laptop (part of Demon Internet Ltd.)


In article <telecom16.648.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, "Mark J. Cuccia"
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

 ... an awful lot, most of which I agree with. However, he also writes:

> Over the past few years, we've seen International PAY-per-call scams, some 
> in the NANP Caribbean, and some to numbers (but not necessarily locations) 
> outside of the NANP.

I don't see how you can class these as scams. With the +1 809 and non-
NANP numbers, you pay *exactly* the same as a call to a "genuine"
number in that area. Provided it's clearly presented as an
international call the way a genuine call would be presented, what's
the problem?


Clive D.W. Feather    | Associate Director  | Director
Tel: +44 181 371 1138 | Demon Internet Ltd. | CityScape Internet Services Ltd.
Fax: +44 181 371 1150 | <clive@demon.net>   | <cdwf@cityscape.co.uk>
Written on my laptop - please reply to the Reply-To address <clive@demon.net>

------------------------------

From: beck@slidell.com (Jeff Becklehimer)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 9 Dec 1996 05:26:22 GMT
Organization: slidell.com inc, Slidell Louisiana


Alan Bishop (a@corp.webtv.net) wrote:

>  - we transcode images and other media types.  For example, image
>    creators often make their images too detailed or store them in
>    a format that doesn't compress as well as it should.  We fix that
>    in the proxy before transmitting them over the slow link to the user.
>    It also means that if we want to support a media type, we don't
>    need a new client release: we just add it in the server and convert
>    it to an existing one.

Just curious, does this violate copyright laws? Also, when you say an
image is "too detailed" does this mean you also resize or reduce the
number of colors of the images to make them fit on the screen?


Jeff Becklehimer
slidell.com, inc.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 12:21:59 -0500
From: Jack Decker <jack@novagate.com>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story


Dave Sieg <dave@tricon.net> wrote:

> I had an interesting phone call from a guy who had bought one of the
> "WebTV" boxes.  It sits on the top of the TV and hooks to a phone
> line, allowing "unlimited Internet Access" for only $19.95/month".
> This guy had MS and was bedridden, so this seemed perfect for him.  He
> paid $450 for the box and wireless keyboard, hooked it up, and started
> surfing the web.  Now he has discovered that the box is making long
> distance calls at 10-15 cents/minute!  He had already run up a
> sizeable phone bill!

After reading Dave's article, I went to WebTV's "WebTV Service Phone Book"
page at http://www.webtv.net/HTML/home.retail.html

At this site you supposedly can find out if a local access number is
available for a given exchange.  But they are pretty ambiguous about
whether you will actually be making a local or toll call.  For
example, I typed in 616-842-0000 as a number to check, and it came
back with this:

"Calling from 616-842-0000, WebTV has one local and one toll number. 

"Because you live in an area with both local and toll numbers, WebTV may
sometimes be a toll call. However, the WebTV box will make an effort to
always call the local number, minimizing your phone bill!"

BUT - this page seems to tell you what you want to hear.  If you type
in 616-842-xxxx, it tells you it has a local number in the 842
exchange.  If you use 616-846 instead, it says the local number is in
616-846!  Substitute the 847 prefix, and it says the access number's
in 847, and using 844 says the local number's in 844.  Unless they
have local access lines in all four of the Grand Haven, Michigan
exchanges (which I would think is rather unlikely), something is
seriously wrong here.

What's even more fun is that if I put in an exchange in the Muskegon,
Michigan local calling area, it tells me that there is a local number
(in 616-727, which probably really is a local access number) but there
is also a toll number in the 414-449 exchange -- so Web TV users in
Muskegon might unwittingly be making calls across Lake Michigan to
Wisconsin (I do have to give WebTV credit for figuring out that a call
to Wisconsin would be less expensive than a call to Grand Rapids,
which appears to be the next closest in-state access point, but they
aren't always that smart -- callers from the Holland, Michigan area are
sent to the Grand Rapids number as the toll access point, even though
Wisconsin would in most cases be a less expensive call for folks in
that area)!

What appears to be happening (judging from some very limited testing)
is that in some areas you are always told that there is a local access
number and a toll access number.  This is not universally true (for
example, upon entering 218-448-xxxx it admits that there is no local
access number and offers no alternatives), but in some cases where it
does claim that local access is available the claim seems suspicious
because the "local access number" always has the same exchange prefix
as the caller's number (and they don't give you the last four digits
so you can call and see if there's really a modem there).  Further,
even where a local access number is claimed, in many areas the second
number (which is used if the first is unreachable) is a toll call, and
the Web page does not indicate that there is any way to forbid toll
calls (toll restrictors for your WebTV box, anyone?).

Bottom line is, it's possible that a lot of WebTV users are going to
be VERY surprised when they get their phone bills.  Unless the folks
at WebTV really are putting access numbers in all the exchanges where
their Web page claims that access is available, I would not be at all
surprised to hear that they are the target of a class action lawsuit
filed by disgruntled purchasers (wanting to recover toll charges plus
the purchase price of their units) somewhere down the line.

I also suspect that many of the WebTV buyers of this year will be
lining up to get a REAL computer and Internet connection next year --
if they aren't totally turned off to the Internet by the whole WebTV
experience, that is!


Jack


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried it with the exchanges here in
Skokie (847-673/674/675 and 847-329) and it consistently came back
saying I had two local numbers, one in 312-509 which is correct and
one in 847-480 which is also correct.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: craig@rmit.EDU.AU (Craig Macbride)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 9 Dec 1996 21:39:28 GMT
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia.


Dave Sieg <dave@tricon.net> writes:

> I had an interesting phone call from a guy who had bought one of the
> "WebTV" boxes.  It sits on the top of the TV and hooks to a phone
> line, allowing "unlimited Internet Access" for only $19.95/month".
> This guy had MS and was bedridden, so this seemed perfect for him.  He
> paid $450 for the box and wireless keyboard, hooked it up, and started
> surfing the web.  Now he has discovered that the box is making long
> distance calls at 10-15 cents/minute!  He had already run up a
> sizeable phone bill!

It already connects to a TV set and many people already have cable TV,
so it would make sense to make the $450 box include a cable modem and
just run over the cable TV lines to a net connection. No phone line
costs; no long-distance charges; no having the phone line in use when
trying to make or receive phone calls; _much_ faster connection.

Of course, it wouldn't help if someone is outside the areas serviced by
cable TV, but that may still mean a lot more people would be covered
than they are by the WebTV ISP's local phone call areas at present.


Craig Macbride	<craig@rmit.edu.au>  URL: http://www.bf.rmit.edu.au/~craigm

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Dec 96 12:16 PST
From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein)
Subject: WebTV vs. Client and Display Technology


Greetings.  WebTV appears to have a great deal of potential as a means
for introducing segments of the population without PCs (a rapidly
declining but still very significant number) to basic web services.
They have developed an interface and methodology that appear to make
the best posssible use of a limited display platform (that is,
conventional televisions).  For all of this they are to be
congratulated.

However, there are some fundamental limitations to that very platform
that would seem to position WebTV as primarily a "transitional"
technology -- that is, something from which many users will wish to
quickly advance to conventional PC-based net access.

One issue is the inability that users will have to make use of most of
the wide variety of downloadable client applications upon which most
advanced web applications are based.  No doubt WebTV will work to make
some versions available within their system, but it seems likely that
many users will find themselves frustrated over and over again by not
being able to hit that download button staring at them on the screen
to get a new update for Adobe Acrobat, or a particular graphics or
audio system, or whatever.  Without a doubt, some users will be
satisfied by the mix that WebTV provides within their architecture --
but others would seem likely to want to move on.

Given the size of many standard client applications, it seems unlikely
that more than a small percentage could be supported within the WebTV
platform given the current relatively limited amount of non-volatile
memory onboard the units.  It's certainly true that later versions of
the product could include more memory, disk drives, maybe even a VGA
video output and so on -- but at some point we're just looking at
basically a single or limited purpose PC -- and the economics of that
kind of purchase become unclear against the discount pricing of
conventional multipurpose PCs.

I mentioned VGA output above, and that brings up another important
limitation of the current WebTV unit.  No matter how many tricks you
play with direct video out and S-video interfaces, the bandwidth of
conventional North American NTSC (or PAL/SECAM for that matter)
televisions makes them generally unsuitable for displaying significant
amounts of text.

Those of us who built our own terminals 20 years ago remember all too
well the "fun" of staring at flickering TV screens trying to read 80
columns of text.  Sets have improved considerably since then, but the
fundamental limitations are much the same.  When is the last time you
saw someone buy a computer with a 60Hz, interlaced display? -- that's
what standard NTSC televisions provide.  There's a good reason why
72Hz and faster non-interlaced displays have become standard (and why
this very issue is such a battleground in the digital TV standards
arena).  The flicker and resolution limitations of conventional
televisions just aren't well suited as computer displays.  Sure, you
can look at the graphics, and by resizing HTML text to larger fonts
(i.e. shorter lines) you can definitely help the situation.  But there
are significant limits.

Again, none of this is to diminish WebTV's accomplishment in creating
a mass-market web product.  But I think it is important to keep the
technical realities in perspective.  There may well ultimately be a
melding of consumer products and conventional PCs, especially if
reasonable digital TV systems become available at affordable prices.
But existing televisions represent a very limited technical platform
for such applications.


 --Lauren--     www.vortex.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When I used to do that sort of thing in
the late 1970's -- make terminals out of old black and white television
sets -- I found I could improve the display by changing the horizonal
synch quite a bit. This essentially made it unusable as a television
in the future (without restoring the horizonal to where it had been) 
but it worked for its new purpose. A couple other tricks which helped
with the display was to adjust the yoke somewhat, and  -- but you had
to be most careful! -- wrapping some tin foil (for example, Reynolds Wrap)
around the picture tube near the base where it connected to the yoke.
This tin foil seemed to trap the ions or something.

A word now to those of you who read this and decide to get in the back
of your television set and experiment: *** discharge that bugger before
you go sticking your hands in there *** !  Old television sets tend to
retain a charge for a long time; a very long time in fact. I've seen
sets that were turned off and unplugged for a week or more still be
loaded with juice. Those capacitors take forever to leak it out. It 
makes quite a frightful but fun display for all the neighborhood kids.
Invite them in to watch, then take a *very big* screwdriver with a
plastic handle you can hold -- do not touch the metal part! Probe in
there with the metal part of the screwdriver, touching it to those
big caps you see in there one at a time and simultaneously to ground.

Each time you do that, there will be a loud bang! and sparks will
fly out of the back of the television at you. Don't worry; it won't
hurt you, it just looks scary and mean. Do that three or four times
or until the television set quits backfiring at you. Now it is okay to
stick your hands in there wherever you want with no concern. 

Now should you forget that first and foremost safety precaution as I
did one day when I was trying to work on a linear amplifier for a CB
radio for someone, it'll knock you on your keister and you will spend
the rest of the day with a sort of crazed look on your face, and some
confusion in your thinking, just like old fashioned electro-shock
therapy the state-run mental hospitals used to administer. That will 
teach you to keep your hands to yourself and not go sticking them
places they do not belong. <grin> ... remember: unplug it completely;
totally discharge those capacitors (you will know you are finished
when the television/radio quits 'arguing' and backfiring at you) and
then -- and only then -- put your hands in there to work on it.

There are some who would claim that I still have not recovered to
this day from taking that load twenty years ago.  Maybe not. Maybe
I still am crazed and confused.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: Frederick Woodruff <pal@seanet.com>
Subject: 900 Psychic lines
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:50:20 +0000
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA


Hi:

I'm a journalist in Seattle trying to research the history of the 900
line, pay per call industry; particularly the 900 psychic lines that
have proliferated over the past decade.

If anyone can help me or point me in the right direction for my research
I would really appreciate it.

You can reach me directly at my e mail address:

pal@seanet.com


Thank you in advance,

FW

------------------------------

From: zhsieh@telenet.com (Zon Hsieh)
Subject: Job Opportunity - HP OpenView Specialist (Virginia)
Date: 10 Dec 96 17:54:48 GMT
Organization: Alcatel Data Networks


        JUST SOME OF THEM.
 
Alcatel Data Networks Inc., one of the world's largest producers of
advanced telecommunications equipment, is seeking a senior level
Netork Management HP OpenView expert to join our Software Development
team in Ashburn, Virginia.  (near Washington D.C.)
 
        HP OPENVIEW SPECIALIST
 
The incumbent will design, implement, and debug software in different
network fault management functions and provide technical guidance to
the team members. The incumbent must have extensive background in the
following areas:
 
o HP OpenView DM4.21 and/or NNM4.1, XMP API, and GDMO
 
o C, C++, programming in a UNIX environment
 
o CMIS, SNMP, MIB, and TCP/IP
 
A BS, MS in Computer Science or Computer Engineer, or an equivalent
amount of work experience in NMS is required.  Successful candidates
will also have seven plus years of experience in telecommunications
with minimum of four years development experience with HP OpenView
DM/NNM. Alcatel Data Networks Inc. offers an excellent compensation
and benefits package. For confidential consideration, mail your resume
to Mailstop 1F01 (indicating HP OpenView) at the address listed below
or fax to HR (703)724-2348.  One may send resume through e-mail to
Zon.Hsieh@adn.alcatel.com.
 
        Alcatel Data Networks
 
        An Alcatel-Sprint Join Venture
        44983 Knoll Square, Ashburn, Va 20147
 
EEO/AA Employer M/F/D/V, Smoke-free/Drug-free workplace

------------------------------

From: Greg Stahl <gsta@music.stlawu.edu>
Organization: Saint Lawrence University  Park St.  Canton, NY  13617
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines
Date: 12 Dec 96 05:21:09 GMT


DataComm over power lines is used in alot of different places.  One
that I am aware is the mass transit subway system in Washington, D.C.
called Metro.  Although I cannot describe the details, the trains are
powered by a "third rail" that carries 380 volts (I could be wrong
about the voltage).  The trains are computer controlled (speed,
accelaration, decelaration, stopping) from the Metro network control
center using sensors on the tracks and the operators.  Basically, the
computer slows the train down as it enters a station, then stops the
train, the operator opens the doors, then closes the doors and starts
the train on its way.  All the datacomm to run the train is sent
through the third rail.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For a number of years a long time ago
the Chicago Transit Authority operated its telephone system in the
subway via the third rail. The connections sounded awful, but it
did work.  PAT]

------------------------------

From: Stan Schwartz <stan@vnet.net>
Subject: Telecom-Related Chuckles
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:14:25 -0500


(These are all from the Dilbert newsletter)

Don't Ever Change

I needed to make a phone call while at the library. When I asked for
change at the counter, I was told that they didn't give change for the
phone, only for the copy machine. So I asked for change for the copy
machine and she gave it to me.

Wrong Number:

An Induhvidual went to the hospital emergency room. After seeing the
doctor and taking medication, he went to the nurse's station to call
home for a ride.  He asked a nurse how to get an outside line to which
she responded, "Pound nine."

Thinking the nine button must be sticking, the Induhvidual pushed nine
hard and dialed the number. He then got a recording that the call
couldn't be completed. He asked again, received the same answer,
dialed the same number and got the same recording.

Frustrated, he asked the nurse a third time how to get an outside
line.  Clearly irritated, she answered through her teeth, "I told you,
POUND NINE!" to which he replied, "OKAY!", balled up his fist and
smashed the phone.

[Editor's Note: Some readers might think this story is an urban legend
and that's probably true.  But it doesn't mean that Induhviduals
aren't having this exact confusion everyday.  This is why I never
serve pound cake at my house.]

Just the Fax, Ma'am:

This conversation actually happened.

Induhvidual: "Do you know anything about this fax-machine"?

DNRC member:  "A little.  What's wrong?"

Induhvidual: "Well, I sent a fax, and the recipient called back to say
all she received was a cover-sheet and a blank page. I tried it again,
and the same thing happened."

DNRC member: How did you load the sheet?"

Induhvidual: "It's a pretty sensitive memo, and I didn't want anyone else 
to read it by accident, so I folded it so only the recipient would open 
it and read it."

Group Fax:

A paralegal was given her duties the Monday she was hired. Among other
things, she was responsible for sending out frequent faxes. She was
fired on Wednesday when they discovered that because she didn't like
using the fax machine, she was saving the faxes to send out all at the
same time -- once a week, on Friday.

She was indignant because she couldn't see what they were so upset about.


___________________
copyright notice:

Reprinting This Newsletter
--------------------------

Feel free to copy, post and distribute this newsletter within the bounds 
of good netiquette.  


Scott Adams

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    Operator Toll Dialing and a 1945 Area Code Proposal (Mark J. Cuccia)
    UCLA Short Course: "HBT IC Technology for Comm Applications" (W. Goodin)
    Book Review: "The Web Server Handbook" by Palmer/Schneider (Rob Slade)
    GTE Long Distance in Oklahoma (Tad Cook)
    New Utah Area Code (Tad Cook)
    Interconnection in the Internet (Jesus Redondo)
    MFS to Offer Digital Subscriber Line Service (oldbear@arctos.com)
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:16:33 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Operator Toll Dialing and a 1945 Area Code Proposal


Early this year, I posted to the Digest an article regarding a
proposed but never adopted area code plan from 1946/47. The proposed
plan was similar to the actual 'finalized' plan of eighty-six original
area codes from October 1947, in that states with *one* area code were
given codes of the N0X format, while states with *multiple* area codes
were given N1X area codes.

In the 1946/47 proposal, the entire country of Canada was 'treated' as
a 'single state' with multiple area codes. The never adopted proposal
would have used codes of the 91X form for Canada's provinces:

912 and 913 for Ontario;
914 and 915 for Quebec;
916 for the Maritime Provinces (New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward
Island; and maybe Newfoundland and Labrador which wasn't actually a part of
Canada, politically at that time);
917 for Manitoba;
918 for Saskatchewan;
919 for Alberta;
910 for British Columbia.

Also, the 1946/47 proposal (but never actually adopted) had
'consecutive blocks' of area codes for each state with multiple codes:
New York State would have had 212, 213, 214, 215, 216 
Michigan would have had 217, 218, 219 
Illinois would have had 312, 313, 314, 315 
Ohio would have had 316, 317, 318, 319 
Pennsylvania would have had 412, 413, 414, 415 
Wisconsin would have had 416, 417 
Minnesota would have had 418, 419 
California would have had 512, 513, 514 
Massachusetts would have had 515, 516 
Iowa would have had 517, 518, 519 
Missouri would have had 612, 613 
Indiana would have had 615, 616 
Kansas would have had 617, 618 
Texas would have had 712, 713, 714, 715

I do wonder about Kansas having been assigned (on paper, only) the
codes 617 and 618. I would have thought that it would have been
assigned 618 and 619. Notice that 614 has no assignment, and comes
after Missouri's two codes. If 617 were to be 'skipped' over, it would
be after Indiana's two codes. In the *ACTUAL* assignments of October
1947, MO and IN had two area codes each; 1948/49 saw Indiana get a
third NPA (219) and 1950/51 saw Missouri get a third NPA (417).

Within most (but not all) of these multi-NPA states, the block of
consecutive codes were to be adjacent to one another, or 'linear' as a
code set 'increased' from east to west, or from north to south, across
that state.

Every *other* state (as well as DC) would have had an N0X style area
code, as each of these states would have had one area code.

However, except for the larger cities in multi-NPA states, or more
populated states using a single (N0X) NPA, the numerical assignments
were *not* kept when the finalized version took effect in October
1947.

(The complete chart of 'proposed' assignments with some brief
description of specific intra-state geographies is included in my
original submission, earlier this year).

However, close to the end of World War II, in 1945 the Bell System was
seriously looking into a nationwide numbering plan and developing an
*automated* (operator) toll dialing/switching network.

In August 1943, Philadelphia was the *very first place* to ever have a
crossbar *toll* switching machine, the #4XB Toll switcher. And only a
few years earlier, the first XBTandem switches were installed in the
US:

Detroit's "Trinity" (DTRTMIMD01T) in 10/1941;
Manhattan's "Interzone" (CLLI code not known) in 10/1941;
San Francisco's "Bush-0" (SNFCCA0300T) in 12/1941;
Oakland #1-Cal. (OKLDCA0100T) in 1/1942.

(all of these XBTandems have been replaced by now -- some began to be
replaced with more modern/recent technology beginning in the late
1970's.)

I also have reference to a XBTandem installed in El Monte CA
(ELMNCA0116T) in 3/1940, however the reference source, the Distance
Dialing Co-Ordinating Handbook, AT&T's annual 'toll/tandem switching
inventory', has this in error for the annual editions through
1975. The 1976 through 1981 editions indicate this XBTandem having
been installed in 2/1960. Anyhow, El Monte is in *southern*
California, and in the 1940's and 50's, the Los Angeles and southern
California metropolitan area was a *step-by-step* switching area, and
the other areas having XBTandem in the early 1940's were *panel and
#1XB* local switching areas.

Multifrequency Keypulsing (MFKP) address signalling was being
developed in 1940, to replace revertive pulsing in #1XB local
switches, and was also applied to XBTandem and #4XBToll. Baltimore was
one of the first areas to have an experiment with MFKP between its
#1XB local switches in 1940.

While several operator toll dialing networks had existed on a regional
basis since as far back as the 'teens', they were *regional*, and were
based on Step-by-Step (SxS) switching technology. Dialpulses lose
their effect over longer and longer lines, and have to be
'retransmitted'. It was decided to have the main backbone of a
nationwide automated network to be based on XB and MFKP technology,
which could store and forward digits, as well as translate digits
received. 

The ultimate result was to be a standardized numbering plan for
operators (and later customers) to dial/key toll calls. The digits
dialed would be registered, forwarded, and if needed, translated to
localized 0XX/1XX routing prefixes used in any regional SxS toll
dialing networks. 0XX/1XX routing codes have continued to be used for
network routing/control, trunk/equipment testing, and also for
operator-to-operator purposes, even in a "common control" switching
(XB and later ESS/Digital) and MFKP (later CCIS#6 or SS7) signalling
network environment.

Some of the regional SxS (opearator) toll dialing networks which had
been in existance for several decades before WW-II originated from the
*non* connecting competitive independent telephone companies in many
cities and metro areas in the earliest decades of this century. At
that time, Bell was still providing only manual operator handled
connections for local service, while many independents (particularly
the competitive non-connecting ones) had been introducing local dial
services based on Strowger Automatic Electric SxS technology.

Around the time of WW-I, Bell began to study local Panel switching for
the largest metropolitan areas, but it was to have been a *semi-automatic* 
service, where the calling party would still have given (quoted to)
the operator the called number, and if the call was in a different
local exchange, the originating operator would dial (or more pecisely,
key-in) the requested number.

By the early 1920's, Panel switching was being adopted by Bell for
local *customer* (and operator) dialing, mostly in the larger metro
areas in the USA only; Bell Canada never did have Panel switching in
Quebec or Ontario).  Bell did adopt SxS switching for local dialing
(by both customers and operators), mostly for medium cities, smaller
towns and more rural areas, throughout the USA *and* Canada.

When the non-connecting competitive independents were still quite much
in existance, many began to interconnect their local (Strowger) SxS
dialing networks togather, over a larger region, creating regional SxS
operator toll dialing networks. When the various Bells and competitive
independents began to 'buy-out' each other to create a single
non-competitive connected network in the 'late-teens' and early
1920's, these regional SxS operator toll networks continued, and Bell
began to introduce such networks on its own, or it expanded on what
had already existed from the (previously competitive and
non-connecting) independents.

Some of the larger regions served by SxS (operator) toll dialing
networks prior to the introduction of XBTandem, #4-type XBToll, MFKP
technology:

Southern California (a rather large area of independent telcos);

Connecticut (the "semi" BOC of Southern New England Telephone);

Ohio (another "semi" BOC of Cincinnati Bell Telephone; also several
independents now held by United/Sprint).

Michigan;

The Pacific Northwest - WA/OR/ID/BC/AB (another region where GTE has
been quite dominant, including in Canada; and while Alberta's telco
had been owned by the provincial government and Edmonton's telco had
been owned by the city government, both AGT and Edmonton Telephones
had been purchasing AE Strowger SxS equipment beginning in 'the
teens'.)

{Bell Telephone Magazine} and {Bell Laboratories Record} both had
articles on Operator Toll Dialing in 1945:

"Operator Toll Dialing -- a New Long Distance Method",
{Bell Telephone Magazine} v.22 (1945) #2, pages 101-115 of v.22 (1945)
authors: James J. Pilliod and Harold L. Ryan

"Nationwide Dialing", {Bell Laboratories Record} v.23 (1945) October
issue, pages 368-372 of v.23 (1945) authored by: F. F. Shipley (of the
Switching Engineering Department)

In the {Bell Telephone Magazine} arrticle, there is discussion about a
uniform nationwide numbering plan, with the (continental) US being
divided into sixty to seventy-five areas. Each area would be assigned
a three-digit code, of the N0X and N1X format, as since there are no
letters on the '0' or '1' on the dial, there are no central office
names/letters corresponding to such N0X/N1X codes, but rather
NNX. Thus N0X/N1X area codes would not be in conflict.

In the {Bell Laboratories Record} article, the discussion mentions the
(continental) US being divided into sixty numbering areas, and that
N1X codes would be *tentatively* used, although there are no central
office names/letters corresponding to N0X as well. Incidently, a
sample of a dial is shown in the article, *with* the letter 'Z' on the
'0' (zero), although the article mentions that only eight digits '2'
through '9' are lettered out of the possible ten digits.

The {Bell Labs Record} article did mention that two-digit area codes
'could' be possible if there would be only sixty codes - i.e. less
than one-hundered (or actually eighty) possible numbering areas, but
'NX' codes would make translations between central office codes and
area codes rather difficult until all digits had been received and a
'time-out' in the switching equipment. So, N1X codes would be used.

Both articles include an identical map of the (continental) USA,
divided into numbering areas. Canada is *NOT* indicated on this map,
nor is it even mentioned in the articles. Also, there are *NO* area
code *numericals* shown in each numbering region -- only boundaries.
What *IS* interesting is that there were some area code regions which
would have contained *more* than one state. The caption beneath the
map in the {Bell Telephone Magazine} article states, "How the country
might look when divided into approximately 60 areas for the
nation-wide numbering plan".

The following is a list of each region, as proposed in 1945, using the
two-letter abbreviation for each state. The numbers preceeding the
state(s) is used *ONLY* as a count, and *NOT* any 'proposal' of digits
for each area or region.

01) ME
02) NH *and* VT
03) MA (all) *and* RI
04) CT
05) NY (New York City *as well as* Westchester area *and* Long Island
06) NY State (eastern)
07) NY State (central)
08) NY State (western)
09) NJ
10) PA (eastern) *and* DE
11) PA (central)
12) PA (western)
13) MD *including* DC
14) VA
15) WV
16) OH (eastern)
17) OH (southern)
18) OH (northwestern)
19) MI (southern)
20) MI (northern; panhandle)
21) IN (northern)
22) IN (southern)
23) IL (Chicago area)
24) IL (northern)
25) IL (central)
26) IL (southern)
27) WI (southeastern)
28) WI (remainder)
29) NC *and* SC
30) GA
31) FL
32) KY
33) TN
34) AL
35) MS *and* LA
36) MO (eastern)
37) MO (western)
38) KS (eastern)
39) KS (western)
40) OK
41) AR
42) TX (northeastern)
43) TX (southern)
44) TX (western)
45) MN (southeastern)
46) MN (remainder)
47) IA (eastern)
48) IA (central)
49) IA (western)
50) NE
51) SD
52) ND
53) NM *and* CO
54) AZ, UT, *and* NV
55) WY, MT, *and* ID
56) WA
57) OR
58) CA (northern)
59) CA (central)
60) CA (southern)

One final note -- in the text of the {Bell Telephone Magazine}
article, mention is made that some numbering areas would contain more
than one state, 'such as North and South Dakota'. However, the map
indicates separate area codes for North Dakota and South Dakota, while
according to the map example, North Carolina and South Carolina would
have 'shared' a single area code.

There are also various other articles in {Bell Telephone Magazine} as
well as {Bell System Technical Journal} and {Bell Laboratories Record}
from the late 1940's through the early 1960's regarding Operator Toll
Dialing and how it was evolving into DDD, area codes, local numbering
(i.e. EXchange names and initially how 'standardized' names would be
better for customer quoting and remembering in a nationwide/continentwide 
DDD situation, but later how ANC - All Numbering Calling was better),
Crossbar switching, multifrequency keypulsing signalling, etc.

Of course, much of the actual 1945 and 1946/47 area code proposal was
just planning, although eventually was reformatted into the original
'finalized' 1947 assignment scheme of eighty-six area codes, which has
been added on to over the decades, although these current three years
(1995 through 1997), I have identified *at least fifty-eight* "POTS"
(geographic - non-SAC) area codes being assigned and active! Not
counting the SAC's for TWX (N10), the N00's (800 for Toll-Free and 900
for 'mass-calling'), nor the 'patch' codes for access to Mexico, only
thirty-five area codes were assigned (after the original eighty-six
were finalized in 1947) between 1948 and 1965. This remained
relatively stable until the early 1980's. And while a handful of codes
were assigned between 1982 and 1989, even the 1980's was still a
relatively stable period!


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From: BGOODIN@UNEX.UCLA.EDU (William R. Goodin)
Subject: UCLA Short Course: "HBT IC Technology For Comm Applications"
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:57:40
Organization: UCLA Extension


On February 12-14, 1997, UCLA Extension will present the short course,
"HBT IC Technology for Communications Applications", on the UCLA
campus in Los Angeles.

The instructors are Bahram Jalali, PhD, Associate Professor, Electrical
Engineering Department, UCLA, and Madjid Hafizi, PhD, Senior Research
Staff, Hughes Research Laboratories.

This course presents an in-depth treatment of GaAs, InP, and
GeSi-based Heterojunction Bipolar Transistor (HBT) technologies and
their application in today's growing communication markets.  HBT has
emerged as a key enabling technology for wireless communications, data
conversion, mixed-signal/mixed-mode applications, and high data rate
fiber-optic communications.

The course begins with a concise review of the physics of HBT devices
and a comparison with MESFET and HEMT technologies.  This comparison
provides a foundation for selecting the right technology for a
particular application.  Technology performance characteristics such
as DC, RF, noise, power amplification, linearity, intermodulation
distortion, manufacturability, reliability, yield and cost issues are
compared.  Modeling of HBT devices for circuit simulation is presented
including linear and nonlinear models and thermal modeling.  Material
issues are covered including epitaxial crystal growth, MBE and MOCVD
materials, followed by a look at commercial vendors of epitaxial
material and material qualification.  Fundamentals of HBT processing
including device and IC fabrication, passive components, planarization, 
heat sink approaches (particularly for power devices), lithography,
dry etching, and yield limitations are explored, as are state-of-the-art 
HBT device performance and reliability issues.

The important role of HBT in meeting the requirements of current
wireless systems is discussed.  Power amplifiers are covered in-depth
including such relevant issues as efficiency, linearity,
intermodulation distortion, and thermal stability.  The course reviews
commercially available HBT IC's for wireless markets, and covers
Analog-to-Digital Converters (ADC) ranging from ultra-fast flash-type
converters to high-resolution delta-sigma modulators and the
architectures in between.  This involves a review of ADC
characteristics such as SNR, SFDR, NPR, differential and integral
nonlinearity, effective number of bit, and aperture jitter, in
relation to HBT device characteristics.  Mixed-mode/mixed-signal
applications of the technology such as multiple device integration
including HBT/HEMT, HBT/RTD, HBT/PIN-PD, and HBT/MESFET mixed-device
techniques are examined.  The course shows how these new technologies
are applied to mixed/mode systems such as digital receivers (including
HEMT orMESFET low-noise amplifier, HBT downconverter and HBT ADC) or
tointegrated optical receivers (including PIN photodetector,
transimpedanceand AGC amplifiers).

Finally, the course presents ultra-high speed applications of the
technology in the emerging market of 40 Gbit/s optical communications,
including high-speed digital circuits such as dividers, MUX/DEMUX, and
clock/data recovery circuits.

The course fee is $1195, which includes extensive course materials.
These materials are for participants only, and are not for sale.

For a more information and a complete course description, please contact
Marcus Hennessy at:

(310) 825-1047
(310) 206-2815  fax
mhenness@unex.ucla.edu
http://www.unex.ucla.edu/shortcourses

This course may also be presented on-site at company locations.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:54:04 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The Web Server Handbook" by Palmer/Schneider/Chenette


BKWBSRHB.RVW   960910
 
"The Web Server Handbook", Pete Palmer/Adam Schneider/Anne Chenette, 1996,
0-13-239930-X, U$39.95/C$51.00
%A   Pete Palmer
%A   Adam Schneider
%A   Anne Chenette
%C   One Lake St., Upper Saddle River, NJ   07458
%D   1996
%G   0-13-239930-X
%I   Prentice Hall
%O   U$39.95/C$51.00 +1-201-236-7139 fax: 201-236-7131 beth_hespe@prenhall.com
%P   460
%T   "The Web Server Handbook"
 
There *are* three chapters in the book which give you details on how
to set up a Web server for UNIX, Windows, and the Mac.  These chapters
are reasonably detailed and helpful.
 
However, they only occupy about a quarter of the book, by weight.  The
rest of the book talks about browsing, HTML, publicity, Perl and other
such topics. There are other resources which handle these areas
better.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   BKWBSRHB.RVW   960910  Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications.
 

Vancouver        roberts@decus.ca              | "Metabolically
Institute for    rslade@vcn.bc.ca              |  challenged"
Research into    slade@freenet.victoria.bc.ca  | 
User             rslade@vanisl.decus.ca        | politically correct
Security         Canada V7K 2G6                | term for "dead"

------------------------------

Subject: GTE Long Distance in Oklahoma
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:14:08 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


GTE Begins Long-Distance Telephone Service in Oklahoma
By Ray Tuttle, Tulsa World, Okla.

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 11--GTE on Tuesday began offering long-distance service to
Oklahomans, marketing it under the name GTE Easy Savings Plan.

The Federal Telecommunications Act makes it easier for companies like
GTE to deliver expanded services to customers, said Barb Bellinghausen, 
director of GTE long distance. "AT GTE, we promised we would be quick
to market once the telecommunications bill became law. Today, we are
making good on that promise."

GTE, which services Broken Arrow and 26 other communities in Oklahoma,
offers local telephone service to about 95,000 customers in the state.

GTE is partnering with WorldCom to provide the long-distance service.

"We are offering the service but it is WorldCom's pipes," Bellinghausen 
said.

Jackson, Miss.-based WorldCom, which also operates offices in Tulsa,
also offers long-distance service in Oklahoma, said spokesman Gil
Broyles. "We have agreements with Ameritech, GTE and Southwestern Bell
Mobile Systems. But our market emphasis is on business long distance.

GTE long-distance service is available to any consumer in the state,
regardless of which company provides their local telephone service.

Price discounts are available once a customer has spent as little as
$10, Bellinghausen said. For example, a residential customer spending
a total of $10 a month on all GTE long distance services will save ten
percent.

GTE, which is also was offering Internet access through UUNet, is
marketing its services in 26 other states where GTE offers local
telephone service, with plans to offer service by the end of the month
in all 50 states.

Prior to the federal Telecommunications Act of 1996, GTE offered local
service calls within the 918 area code. Once the telephone company
gained approval from the federal government, it started seeking
regulatory approval from the 27 states where it has operations.

------------------------------

Subject: New Utah Area Code
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:39:16 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


The Salt Lake Tribune Business Briefs Column
The Salt Lake Tribune

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 10--HEARINGS TONIGHT ON AREA CODE: The Utah Public Service
Commission (PSC) holds a statewide video tele-hearing tonight on plans
to add a telephone area code. The PSC estimates the available
three-digit local prefixes within the 801 area code will be used up by
early 1998 -- largely the result of increased use of cellular phones
and pagers, and phone lines for fax machines and computer modems.

Under a recommended proposal, exchanges in Davis, Weber, Salt Lake and
Utah counties -- the most populated region of the state -- would
retain the 801 area code, while all other areas of Utah would be
assigned a new area code. Once approved, the area code could take
effect next summer, and several months would be allowed to phase in
use of the new area code for long distance callers.

Utah residents wishing to discuss the issue with the three-member PSC
can show up at one of about 20 educational sites across the state that
are linked to the Utah Educational Network. Those include the College
of Eastern Utah in Price, Southern Utah University in Cedar City, Utah
State University in Logan and Instructional Media Services on the
University of Utah campus. Several high schools and technical schools,
from Brigham City to Kanab, also will have facilities for the public
to respond live to the PSC. For details on the sites, call the PSC at
(801) 530-6716.

------------------------------

From: Jesus Redondo <jrv@dit.upm.es>
Organization: DIT-UPM
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:11:13 +0000
Subject: Interconnection in the Internet


I am wondering about how the interconnection among ISPs is provided.

Telecom operators set interconnection rates that reflect the cost of
the local loop (i.e. a Bell Network) used by a long distance provider
to complete a call, this interconnection rates usually are expressed
in terms of cents/minute of usage. The international traffic is
regulated by the accounting rate regime, which many times is not
related to the real cost

The Internet is composed by many ISPs that interconnect their
networks, each one must allow the use of his network to the others to
let them reach a third party. Is there any kind of 'interconnection
rates' for this service or is it only a negotiation between the parts?

I would appreciate any information around this or references about 
forums, papers or any place where I could find it.


Jesus Redondo     e-mail: jr@dit.upm.es
DIT-UPM     ETSI Telecomunicacion
Ciudad Universitaria s/n
28040 Madrid, Spain
                   e-mail: jrv@dit.upm.es
DIT-UPM                       phone: +341 5495700 x.366
ETSI Telecomunicaciones       fax: +341 5432077
Ciudad Universitaria s/n
28040 Madrid   Spain

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:03:39 -0500
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: MFS to Offer Digital Subscriber Line Service


MFS TO OFFER SPEEDY INTERNET SERVICE OVER PHONE LINES

MFS Communications plans to offer Digital Subscriber Line service to
customers early next year, providing high-speed Internet connections
over existing telephone lines.  Initially, MFS's connect speeds will
be equivalent to ISDN links -- about four times faster than a typical
28.8 modem -- but ultimately it plans to offer data transmission at
rates 20 times faster than conventional modems.

source: Wall Street Journal
        December 10, 1996

-----------end included text-----------

Even if the RBOCs have not figured out that those subscriber loops 
are a treasured resource, the new entrant LECs (like MFS) seem to 
have a clue -- and a big one at that.

By offering these enhanced services over existing local loop 
facilities (probably leased at cost from the RBOCs), the new entrants 
are going to be able to offer all kinds of attractive and creative 
service bundles while the RBOCs continue to dither about ISDN and 
nailed-up switched circuits.

This is good for the consumer, but really unfortunate for the RBOCs 
which, knowing that local competition was on its way, have focused on 
how they are going to enter the "lucrative" long distance market 
(now being challenged by services like internet phone), rather than 
focus on how to exploit their existing postion in their local market.

For years, Intel has prospered by offering new and innovative 
products and -- as soon as competitors could produce a 'me too' 
copy -- coming out with something new and dropping the price the 
existing product, thus squeezing those "me too" competitors who 
then have to recoup their R&D cost in a lower-margin market.

Here was an example of where the RBOCs could have gotten out ahead 
of the curve and built a market position which would be hard to 
follow.  Instead, ignoring the fact that the game has changed, most 
of the RBOCs have attempted to keep rates high for existing services 
and to price new services still higher.

This, of course, has produced a delightful "price umbrella" which 
invites new competitors into a market where margins are so high 
as to allow lots of room for error while learning the business.

I sympathize with some of the comments made by Pat concerning how 
some of the new entrant LECs will just buy services from the RBOC at 
mandated wholesale prices and resell to the consumer at a low 
enough mark-up to undercut existing tariffs.  But the new entrants 
can only play that game because the RBOCs made it possible by not 
exploiting the potential of their own existing plant to build 
value-driven barriers in anticipation of the impending competition.

Having spoken informally to a few people down in the ranks of my 
local RBOC about this, the story I have heard is that the technical 
people, and the lower-level marketing folks who are close to the 
customers, have recoginized this for years but have been unable to 
get any interest from senior management -- which has preferred 
pricing local exchange services to maximize current margins, treating 
traditional local loop wireline as an eventual lost cause, and seeking 
opportunities in all manner of information and entertainment products 
beyond the ken of their traditional lines of business.


Cheers,

The Old Bear

------------------------------

From: bjg90783@rosie.uh.edu (B.J. Guillot)
Subject: Southwestern Bell Gets Out of Visa Card Business
Date: 10 Dec 1996 23:21:00 CST
Organization: University of Houston


Got this letter in the mail from Southwestern Bell Visa Card ...

Starting January 2, 1997, your account will be handled solely by
Mercantile Bank of Illinois National Assocation.  Because of recent
events in the credit card industry, Southwestern Bell will no longer
be assoicated with your current Southwestern Bell Visa card.

 ... you will receive a new MercRewards Visa card by March, 1997.
Your account number, interest rate and most other terms of your
account will remain the same and you will continue to receive up to 2%
cash back on purchases.

 ... you will no longer be able to bill your residential and/or
cellular phone bills to your Southwestern Bell account, nor will you
earn the 5% phone reward on these bills. ... Please pay [your phone
bill] directly.

In February 1997, you will receive a check for your phone rewards
accumulated on your account through the end of December, 1996.

 ... Southwestern Bell will give you a one-time SPECIAL PAYMENT of
$20.  This SPECIAL PAYMENT is in appreciation for your participation
in the Southwestern Bell Visa phone rewards program.

 ... You may continue to use your current Southwestern Bell Visa card
until your MercRewards Visa card arrives.  When you receive your new
card, please destroy your old Southwestern Bell Visa card.

               ----------------------------------------

Other comments.  About two or three months ago, I got an insert in my
phone bill saying I was "pre-approved" for a SWB Visa card.  I called,
and they took my information, gave me a $15 credit, and told me I had
a $1500 credit limit.  A few weeks later, I received my card, and
noticed the paperwork it came with claimed the credit limit was $200
(yes, a $200 limit on a credit card!)  They would not raise that
limit.

Anyway, it was interesting to see this letter saying that SWB is no
longer in the credit card business after just two months that I've had
my card.  Does anyone know what "recent events in the credit card
industry" refer to?

Could this have anything to do with the merger of SWBT (aka SBC) and
that other Bell company?

Oh, and there was an additional insert in the letter that included
instructions on how to set your savings or checking account for
deductions.

Other thing ... If the credit card account number is staying the same,
what need is there to send a new card and destroy the old card?

Oh, three out of four of my credit cards are from telephone companies
(Southwestern Bell, AT&T, and GTE).  I'm planning to get rid of the
GTE card soon since they charge over 20% interest!


Regards,  Command line driven fax software http://www.blkbox.com/~bgfax/

B.J. Guillot ... Houston, Texas USA            I don't believe in coffee

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    Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges (Brett Frankenberger)
    Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges (Joel M. Hoffman)
    Re: N11 Codes (Brian Purcell)
    Re: N11 Codes (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes (Nils Andersson)
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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: 11 Dec 1996 21:36:08 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.656.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, TELECOM Digest Editor
noted in response to cgordon@worldnet.att.net:

> [...he no longer has to fight with his customer to get the money? Are
> 800 subscribers to now be at the mercy of COCOTS just as people who
> accept collect calls are at the mercy of the Alternate Operator Services
> and whatever outrageous charges per minute they demand?     PAT]

I will stick to my self-imposed gag rule on arguing _whether_ cocots
should have the right to collect money for 800.

I will note that this development, regardless of what I or anybody
else in this ngewsgroup thinks, is fairly likely, due to two underlying 
shifts:

1) Regulatory: The local telcos will be spinning off their own
payphones to be accounted for separately, even if owned by the telco,
so cross-subsidization will end. ALL PAYPHONES WILL BE COCOTS!  This
will increase the pressure for payment, as well increase the impact on
society of "getting charged for 800".

There is no longer a concept of "THE PHONE COMPANY", and this is precisely
the point; you cannot rely on cross-subsidies.

2) Industry trends: More and more calls are becoming 800 calls, even if to
CALL ATT. 

ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT 800 _WILL_BE_REIMBURSED, how should this be
done?

There are several NOT mutually exclusive possibilitie, here are three
of them:

1) Caller pays with coin. This is easy and clean technically, and I
hear that we are already seeing it in spots . (BTW, lots of countries
with toll-free numbers have this system, you pay as for a local call
but it is usually untimed.)

The main problem is that this is often inconvenient if you do not have
the right coins, and there are many semi-emergencies (e.g. car
breakdown) that do not warrant calling 911, but you REALLY NEED A
PHONE, you do not typically mind paying for it, but you may not have
the coin.

2) Bill to 800 owner. Clearly, we have had enough scams, and having a
COCOT owner being able to bill any amount is not reasonable, and would
kill most 800, hardly an improvement, any more than killing most
payphones. The best but technically trickiest fix would be to have
each 800 owner allow or disallow charges (it could even be "charges up
to x cents/min or x cents/call", but the likely solution is a fixed
amount per call, say 35 cents). I do not know how hard this would be
without segregating numbers per prefix or per area code (800 or 888 or
whatever).  Technology to the rescue!

3) Bill third party, credit card, home phone, whatever. The COCOT
owner could post a special number (could be "0") where you negotiate
this stuff with an operator or a computer. The owner could also allow
you to use a telco credit card (or a bank/Amex credit card) to charge
the 35 cents (or any other charges for that matter). To cover handling
charges, the actual charge may have to be a little higher, even a
dollar, but would you really mind if you need AAA and your car has
broken down?  Remeber, without reimbursement the alternative might
well be that there was no payphone!


Regards,

Nils Andersson

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From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:13:36 GMT


> I don't have a problem with this.  But I _do_ have a problem with
> payphones charging the _caller_ for 800 calls.  The whole idea of 800
> (and now 888) service is that the caller doesn't need to pay!  There
> are several reasons for this:

You have to pay for calls to 800 numbers made with your cellphone. Do
you object to this also?

> One, already mentioned, is convenience.  If I want my daughter to be
> able to call home from the swimming pool, a personal 800 number means
> she doesn't need to carry a dime (excuse me -- a quarter (wait, it's
> 35 cents (no, it's 50 cents))) to call home.

Suppose your daughter is somewhere where there is no nearby pay phone?
Certainly it would increase convenience for her, if, say, there were
payphones within, say, 500 feet of every location.  Should we pass a
law requring pay phones be located every 500 feet, simply to increase
convenience?

> How about, let's say, a spousal abuse hotline?  The old man just threw
> her out on the street (literally) and she has no money at all.  Yeah,
> you could go with collect in this situation but 800 would be a lot
> easier for the clients, and in this case that's important.  How about
> other hotlines; suicide prevention, for instance?  Crimebusters?

I agree that banning fees for 800 calls would be beneficial to victims
of spousal abuse.  But requiring pay phones every 500 feet would also
be beneficial to victims of spousal abuse.  Where do you draw the
line?  Is the convienience of the public always paramount to the
ability of a business to make a profit?  And even if you feel that it
is: What if several COCOTS owners go out of business because of lack
of revenue because they cannot charge for 800 service.  That would
certainly decrease convienience for people who can no longer make
calls because the phone is going.  Is it possible that result of
banning fees for 800 numbers would cause a net decrease in convenience. 
(Or, if you prefer, the argument can be reversed -- isn't it possible
that the increased proliferation of payphones as a result of allowing
fees for calls to 800 numbers would provide a net increase in convienience?)

> 800 has, since its inception, been sold to the general public as a
> "free call".  Now the rules are being changed.  

The rules changed when cellular came out.  That was a long time ago.

> As I said, I don't mind (much) having to pay extra for calls made to
> my 800 number from a payphone.  But it's not right (whatever _that_
> means) to make the caller pay for an 800 call.  Ever.

Including cell phones?  Including overseas calls?  


Brett  (brettf@netcom.com)
Brett Frankenberger

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From: joel@exc.com (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: 11 Dec 1996 15:19:39 GMT
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


>> This does not, however, solve the underlying problems. I firmly
>> believe that payphone operators have a right to be reimbursed for any
>> service they provide (just like the rest of us). There are various

> [...]
> of us hadn't examined it, is that those "rules" were for _our_ benefit.

This is the crux of the issue: is the US telephone network in place to
help businesses make money or to help citizens communicate?  If the
former, then COCOT's have the right to charge what the market will
bear.  If the latter, then people have the right to 800 numbers.

It's really as simple as that.  My position (stated before in this
forum) is that we are making a tremendous mistake in categorizing
telephone service with, say, stereos.  The country and its citizens
have a right to, and a need for, communication.


Joel    (joel@exc.com)

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From: bpurcell@centuryinter.net (Brian Purcell)
Subject: Re: N11 Codes
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 15:18:09 GMT
Organization: Wide-Lite


Mark J. Cuccia recently said:

> Since the only real three-digit N11 code that has any REAL universal
> assignment or reservation is 911(altho' some locations don't yet offer
> 911 service), the codes 211 through 811 should be used as 'POTS'
> central office codes."

What about 411?

On 12/8/96, Marty Tennant wrote:

> Many people feel that N11 codes are "national treasures" and should
> not be used for commercial purposes as BellSouth has regretably done.

Couldn't agree more.  The whole concept behind N11 codes was to
provide a short, easy to remember number for special services
(emergency, DA, repair, etc.).  The idea of selling these off like
BellSouth has done completely defeats the whole purpose of having the
codes in the first place and should be banned.

> Also, the General Services Administration would like one of the codes
> as a generic means of calling the U.S. Government! Not sure that
> would work. Many independent telcos use the codes for their business
> office number.

I thought that was what the toll-free number for the Federal Information 
Center was for.

> In Texas, a proposal was floated awhile back to auction off one of the
> N11 codes on a county-wide basis to ISPs for the provisioning of local
> access to state and local Internet based information services.  The
> government access part would be free, but the winning bidder would be
> able to charge for other information sources.  Don't think this
> concept went anywhere.

You know, I live in Texas and I heard about the debate, but I never heard the 
outcome.  I'll check with the PUC and see what happened.

> I think President Clinton recently supported the use of another N11
> code as a non-emergency alternative to overloaded 911 centers.
> Evidently, we have trained the public to call 911 when it really isn't
> necessary. In this proposal, an N11 code would ring at the local
> police office that handles regular non-emergency calls.  I don't think
> all the public assistance folks out there agree with this position, as
> there would be confusion and an incredible public education effort.

Yep, 311 was recently implemented in Baltimore as the non-emergency 911.

> I do not support the use of N11 codes as central office prefixes, just
> as I don't support their use in BellSouth territory as pay-per-use
> information service numbers.

I'm pretty sure that N11 codes *can't* be used as CO codes since it
would difficult to program equipment to recognize only a few of the
N11s as special service numbers and the others as CO codes.

> I agree that they should be considered "national treasures" and should
> be used for appropriate non-commercial purposes.  These purposes may
> not be evident at this time.

Yes, as we've learned in recent years with NPAs, you never know what the 
future will bring.


Brian Purcell
bpurcell@centuryinter.net

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:56:45 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: N11 Codes


Marty Tennant wrote:

> Mark J. Cuccia recently said:

>> "IMO, The N11 codes should have NEVER been used in the way some areas
>> are now using them. Since the only real three-digit N11 code that has
>> any REAL universal assignment or reservation is 911(altho' some
>> locations don't yet offer 911 service), the codes 211 through 811
>> should be used as 'POTS' central office codes."

> Esteemed readers,

> This issue has been discussed in a still open docket at the FCC for
> some time now.

> Many people feel that N11 codes are "national treasures" and should
> not be used for commercial purposes as BellSouth has regretably done.

> In Canada and in Hawaii (GTE), N11 codes have been used for Telephone
> Relay Service for TDD users. They argue for a uniform number to make
> access for hearing impaired telephone users consistent across state
> lines, rather than a mishmash of toll free numbers.

> Also, the General Services Administration would like one of the codes
> as a generic means of calling the U.S. Government! Not sure that
> would work. Many independent telcos use the codes for their business
> office number.

If the US Federal Government wants a 'simple' or more 'generic' way of
reaching its departments, offices, bureaus, etc. (hopefully toll-free)
by the public -- the *citizenry* who *PAY* the salaries and bills of
the government, *WHY* should a handful of the few 'national treasure'
N11 codes be used? Doesn't the US Federal Government have its *OWN*
Special Area Code, 710? AFAIK, there is only one 'working' number on
710, which is 710-NCS-GETS (710-627-4387). While there may also be a
few more 'secret' seven-digit line-numbers not yet publicized, the 710
SAC could be used for up to almost eight-hundered possible central
office NXX codes, each with a theoretical possible ten-thousand
possible -xxxx line-numbers!

That would allow a *FAR* bigger numbering space for reaching the
departments of the Washington DC (District of Criminals?) central
government, than would taking up any few other N11 codes!


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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:24:10 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes


Michael S. Craig <msc1@mtt.ca> wrote:

> FYI, in Canada, there has been a consistent, albeit far from universal,
> use of N11 codes for a variety of deemed-to-be *public* services:

> 211 Not used
> 311 Not used
> 411 Directory Assistance (mirrors 1-NXX-555-12-12 ... used to be
>     local-only, now covers NPA)
> 511 Not used (has been used for separation of TDD and TTY Relay Services)
> 611 Telco Repair Service
> 711 Relay Service (primary number: see 511 above)
> 811 Telco Business Office (customer service)
> 911 Emergency

> This is far from universal in terms of everybody actually using the
> codes, but at least the various provincial telcos have not put
> contrary services in place at the end of these codes. In general, Cdn
> telcos have taken a cooperative / consensus approach to N11 usage and
> have not supported the commercialization of N11 services. This
> position does acknowledge the existing / reasonable use of 611 and 811
> as *telco* access numbers.

In mailings I receive from the CSCN (Canadian Steering Committee on
Numbering), a 'Canada-specific' forum similar to the 'NANP-wide' INC
(Industry Numbering Committee), 511 and 711 have been proposed or
reserved or assigned to TDD/TTY 'relay' services, similar to the
800-855-1155 (or 800-855-xxxx) numbers.

I don't remember which maps to which, but there are *two* N11 codes
(511 and 711) for TDD/TTY 'relay' services for the Hearing-Impaired,
as one N11 code answers at the relay center with a *modem* for
hearing-impaired customers with a TDD/TTY calling out, and the other
N11 code answers at the relay center with a voice operator (live
human? automated?) for voice customers placing calls to TDD/TTY-abled
hearing imparied customers.

There is also discussion in the CSCN regarding Canadian use of 211 for
'interactive voice/information services' for the blind and
print-handic ...  er -- visually/print challenged. There are two
different Canadian assistance or advocacy groups for the blind which
have been in existance in Canada for many decades, which have proposed
the use of 211 to the CSCN for this type of service. I would hope that
if 'interactive voice/info services' using 211 in Canada were to be
implemented, that the CRTC makes *absolutely sure* that it wouldn't
become a 'commercialized PAY-PAY-PAY-per-call' service. At least the
CRTC, Industry-Canada, etc. have prevented COCOTS and AOSlime from
becoming active in Canada over the past twelve years, although the US
based COCOT/AOSlime 'industry' has been trying.

I still feel that N11 codes (except for 911) should be 'reclaimed'
from their 'reserved' three-digit status in the NANP. Local Directory
could become (NPA)-555-1212 instead of 411; in many areas local Repair
and Business Office have been becoming toll-free seven-digit or
800/888 ten-digit numbers; any PAY-per-call numbers should be
available *ONLY* on the 900 Special Area Code; and since most local
switches in the NANP are ESS/Digital (i.e. they can handle 'custom
calling' and CLASS features with *XX/11XX codes), localized test
numbers (Ring-back, ANAC, etc) could become *standardized* NANP-wide
with such *XX/11XX codes. Even local directory, repair, business
office could become something like *411/11411, *611/11611, *811/11811
in the future. This is similar to the cellular's uses of *XXX-send
codes. All N11 codes (except for 911) could then be available for POTS
seven-digit assignments in POTS NPA's (N11-xxxx). 911 would remain
'sacred' as a three-digit code, although it too could also be
permissively dialable as *911/11911. Maybe Bellcore-NANPA and the INC
should look into revising the "Vertical Service Code (*XX)
Assignments".


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WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Date: 11 Dec 1996 21:36:12 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.656.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Craig, Michael S.
<msc1@mtt.ca> writes:

> for example, ... 911 (and to a lesser extent the European 999 equivalent)
> was routed to the operator to ensure the customer got *an answer* in the 
> absence of true 911-Emergency service.

999 is the older British code, NOT Europe-wide. (Example: Sweden uses 90
000.)

Various countries have had each their own emergency number. European
Union and possbly some non-EU countries in Europe are standardizing to
112, currently some countries are in the "permissive dialling" mode,
eihter will work. Also, 112 will always work from a GSM phone in
Europe (the cellswitch translates as necessary, and the GSM net and
phone have been expediting the 112 since 1991, even with no subscription, 
no SIM card etc).


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: hirschd1@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Area Code Splits - Why?
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:49:05 -0500
Organization: Netcom


Eric Bohlman wrote:

> Robert McMillin (rlm@netcom.com) wrote:

>> Do you mean to force people to buy $100-200 worth of hardware if they
>> want additional phone lines?  How would the lines be delivered?
>> Doesn't analog DID require a trunk bundle to be hauled to the
>> customer?  Who and in what manner is this to be paid for?

> Assuming that the customer just needs several separate *numbers*
> (rather than the ability to handle several *calls* at the same time),
> $100-$200 would be less than the yearly cost of 5 or more lines.

> I'm pretty sure that the protocol that's used to deliver Caller ID
> information from the CO to the subscriber can be extended to handle
> delivery of the number actually dialed (IIRC, there's a "type" field for
> which CID is just one option).

> I actually have a mini-version of this on my office line.  I have
> three numbers with distinctive ring patterns all coming into the same
> line.  One of them is my regular business number, one is my fax number
> (my fax traffic is too low to justify having a separate line) and one
> is pointed to by my 800 number (so when I get a voice call I can tell
> if I'm paying for it).  I use a $60 "Ring Decipher" box to split the
> fax number from the voice numbers.

> Another thing that could relieve number congestion: a lot of
> residential customers get a line solely for modem use, and it's almost
> always used purely for outgoing calls.  Why should such a line need a
> number at all?  Why can't the LECs offer an "anonymous" outgoing-only
> line?

One reason is that the DOD line needs a number because the RBOC needs
to update the Local Exchange Routing Guide (LERG) so that they or
another carrier to whom the RBOC delivers the traffic can determine
the jurisdictional nature of the call. Each NXX (first three digits of
a seven digit phone number) is associated with a specific CO and is
assigned a V&H coordinate.  Keep in mind that even when you buy DID
for a PBX at least one number is assigned to the end user.

Another reason is E911.  If the E911 database cannot determine where
the call originates it poses a liability nightmare to the RBOC.
Imagine soomeone calls 911 from the phone without a number and the
E911 database cannot match it to a location and something happens to
that end user, the RBOC is deep in liability hell.

------------------------------

Subject: Telecom History in Sweden
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:44:32 +0100
From: Sam Spens Clason <sam@nada.kth.se>


Hello Pat,

I'm writing a term paper on the evolution of telephones in Sweden.
The perspective I'm putting on it is: What if there had been truly
free competition.  In the beginning Sweden had a very free policy with
lots of private operators all over the country and after only a few
years the number of telephones in Sweden was very high.  In, by
international comparison, small-town Stockholm the absolute number of
telephones was greater than in Paris, London and Berlin by 1885.  This
evolution was then to some extent hampered by the government since the
inter-urban phone calls were a threat to the (state owned) telegraph.

The phases were:

1) The government was not interested;
2) The government saw it as a way to extend and promote the
   telegraph.  A distributed telegraph office, in modern
   terminology;
3) Private LD, seen as a threat to the telegraph which "served
   all the country to the better of society" (have we heard
   that one before, I mean after that <g>);
4) Prohibiting private LD and building a state LD network (two
   years later) Buying the competition by refusing
   interterconnection and/or demanding outrageous fees for it.
5) *de facto* monopoly.

It appears that the first networks used single-wire phones.  The
government telegraphy board required that all networks interconnecting
to their local networks and long distance network must be *all*
two-wire phones.  The official version is that only then could the
customers make long-distance calls with good quality.  That and other
levys (e.g. LD between cities with telegraph stations was much more
expensive) forced the many community or private networks to sell their
networks to the telegraphy board.

It also appears that the telephone, switchboards etc for the two-line
system laid the foundation for LM Ericsson.

There can be three reasons for this:

1) Ericsson made better and cheaper phones (than Bell);
2) The telegraphy board were protectionistic;
3) There were very few brands of two-wire systems on the
   market since it wasn't a hit else were;

I *guess* it is the later one, but I'm far from sure.  What were the
time perspectives in other countries for converting to two-line
systems and can anyone please tell me if the difference for a long
distance call over, say 600 km, really was that big.  The
time-perspective in my paper is 1881-1902, i.e. the introduction of
public telephony by Stockholm Bell on September 1 1881 and the
government (forced) acquisition of "Stockholm Public Telephone" (which
successfully had out-manoeuvered and subsequently bought the Bell
company).


Sam

PS I will make the paper available on the web.
PPS Please respond by email (as well).

http://www.nada.kth.se/~sam  home +46 70 1234567  cell +46 70 7821022

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 03:20:51 -0800
Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail!


In article <telecom16.658.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, clive@demon.net wrote:

> In article <telecom16.648.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, "Mark J. Cuccia"
> <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

>  ... an awful lot, most of which I agree with. However, he also writes:

>> Over the past few years, we've seen International PAY-per-call scams, some 
>> in the NANP Caribbean, and some to numbers (but not necessarily locations) 
>> outside of the NANP.

> I don't see how you can class these as scams. With the +1 809 and non-
> NANP numbers, you pay *exactly* the same as a call to a "genuine"
> number in that area. Provided it's clearly presented as an
> international call the way a genuine call would be presented, what's
> the problem?

That's precisely the point -- it's often NOT clearly presented as an
international call.  I've seen numerous spams on the net with such
weak disclaimers as "Long distance charges apply if calling from
outside the 664 area code."  The 664 area code is the island of
Montserrat, which I don't think even has a single ISP, so the wording
of the disclaimer is deliberately disingenuous at the least,
particularly since a grand total of three people on earth who don't
read TELECOM Digest know that 664 is the new area code for Montserrat.
There have also been numerous cases of e-mails or pager calls to get
people to dial numbers in the Caribbean with fraudulent intent.

There is also the question of whether these calls actually physically
terminate in the country indicated by the number, or whether they are
siphoned off domestically, but still charged the international rate.
I haven't seen any documentation for the allegation that this practice
occurs, but if it does, I would consider that a scam.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: edshuck@best.com (Edward Shuck)
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 03:42:01 GMT
Organization: Visual Traffic
Reply-To: edshuck@visual-traffic.com


Hi Clive,

The US and the UK have two forms of the same problem it you happen to
manage the telecom for a company, and that is keeping down costs and
keeping the service to the users high.  This takes money.

Calls from the UK to ac 809 are fully recognized as long distance
calls by everyone in the UK that can dial a phone.  Praise your
quality education for that one.

But in the US, where the former vice president cannot spell potato,
geography is not a core subject.

So now how is it a pay per call scam.  Lets consider the Dominican
Republic for a moment.

The sex lines in the Dominican Republic do not tell you when they will
be billing for 2.99 or 4.99 per minute.  There is no, repeat NO,
statute that says they will or must or even hints at it.  The
Telecommunications act of 1995 addresses only the United States of
America.  

What I would like,and I think Mark as well, is that the US would have
the regular (regular for us) NPA NNX abcd numbering and for us to call
the rest of the world would require a 011.  Nice neat clean.

That way our companies and corps that do not make international calls
can block the 976s and look alikes, the 900s and the 011 and the
telcom managers can  avoid at least one staff meeting a week.


Edward Shuck                  edshuck@visual-traffic.com
Visual Traffic             http://www.visual-traffic.com
Telephone Traffic Analysis/Phreaker & Telabuse Abatement

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From: wollman@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call
Date: 12 Dec 1996 10:49:59 -0500
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


In article <telecom16.658.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Clive D.W. Feather
<clive@demon.net> wrote:

> I don't see how you can class these as scams. With the +1 809 and non-
> NANP numbers, you pay *exactly* the same as a call to a "genuine"
> number in that area. Provided it's clearly presented as an
> international call the way a genuine call would be presented, what's
> the problem?

These numbers are rarely presented as being international.  They are
presented as being ``FREE(*)'' with a footnote in tiny illegible print
saying ``normal toll charges will apply''.  Usually the number is also
presented with a carrier access code and reformatted in such a way as
to hide its international nature; for example:

> Tel: +44 181 371 1138 | Demon Internet Ltd. | CityScape Internet

 ... might be presented as:

101-051-801-144-181-371-1138

(10518/101-0518 is one of the AOSlime these lot get, or have in the
past gotten, kickbacks from).

It's even `worse' for NANP international calls, since most telephone
users have no notion that there are such things.  (I don't consider
that an excuse, myself.)  There are also outfits that use Canadian
numbers, particularly in Vancouver:

105-181-604-xxx-xxxx


Garrett A. Wollman   
wollman@lcs.mit.edu  

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From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: WebTV vs. Client and Display Technology
Date: 12 Dec 1996 18:57:01 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida


Fearless Leader wrote:

> A word now to those of you who read this and decide to get in the back
> of your television set and experiment: *** discharge that bugger before
> you go sticking your hands in there *** !  Old television sets tend to
> retain a charge for a long time; a very long time in fact. I've seen
> sets that were turned off and unplugged for a week or more still be
> loaded with juice. Those capacitors take forever to leak it out. It 
> makes quite a frightful but fun display for all the neighborhood kids.
> Invite them in to watch, then take a *very big* screwdriver with a
> plastic handle you can hold -- do not touch the metal part! Probe in
> there with the metal part of the screwdriver, touching it to those
> big caps you see in there one at a time and simultaneously to ground.

Actually the major storage of high-voltage is in the CRT itself, which
acts as a large capacitor.

> Each time you do that, there will be a loud bang! and sparks will
> fly out of the back of the television at you. Don't worry; it won't
> hurt you, it just looks scary and mean. Do that three or four times
> or until the television set quits backfiring at you. Now it is okay to
> stick your hands in there wherever you want with no concern. 

It won't hurt you, but it may well ruin the TV.  Output transistors in
high voltage multipliers tend not to appreciate this sort of behavior.

> Now should you forget that first and foremost safety precaution as I
> did one day when I was trying to work on a linear amplifier for a CB
> radio for someone, it'll knock you on your keister and you will spend
> the rest of the day with a sort of crazed look on your face, and some
> confusion in your thinking, just like old fashioned electro-shock
> therapy the state-run mental hospitals used to administer.

If in fact it doesn't kill you.  If you're unlucky enough to grab the
wrong thing the wrong way, you may well stop your heartbeat.  This can
be disconcerting.

> That will 
> teach you to keep your hands to yourself and not go sticking them
> places they do not belong. <grin> ... remember: unplug it completely;
> totally discharge those capacitors (you will know you are finished
> when the television/radio quits 'arguing' and backfiring at you) and
> then -- and only then -- put your hands in there to work on it.

_Hand_ please, Pat.  The first rule of working on electronic equipment
is to keep one hand in your pocket.  (Please, no Alanis jokes here.)

> There are some who would claim that I still have not recovered to
> this day from taking that load twenty years ago.  Maybe not. Maybe
> I still am crazed and confused.   PAT]

They're right.    :-)


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                        jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
Member of the Technical Staff                    Junk Mail Will Be Billed For.
The Suncoast Freenet      *FLASH: Craig Shergold aw'better; call 800-215-1333*
Tampa Bay, Florida    http://members.aol.com/kyop/rhps.html    +1 813 790 7592

------------------------------

Subject: Re: WebTV vs. Client and Display Technology 
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 96 10:03:42 PST
From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren@vortex.com>


> That's what I thought, too.  They do some tricky patented thing, and
> the text looks about three times better than I would have thought NTSC
> could do.  Wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it in person.  I
> visited some of my own text-heavy pages, and they were quite legible.

I went and looked at it on several hookups (video and s-video) and
wasn't impressed at all.  I saw typical NTSC crawl around edges, and
the flicker was very annoying to stare at, especially on typical pages
with heavy white background content.  S-video naturally looks better
than video, but only relatively, and only high-end TVs typically
even have an s-video hookup.

> In the longer run, WebTV encourages page authors to produce customized
> versions of pages to serve up when a webTV request comes in, with
> smaller pages and more TV-friendly colors and layout.  If they get
> their critical mass, I suspect this will happen, since a surprising
> number of sites already have different Netscape versions for frames
> and non-frames clients and the like.

Which is exactly what SHOULD NOT be happening.  There's enough effort
going into glitzy layouts and such that really should be going into
producing useful content as it is.  When people have to start
creating multiple versions for different platforms even more time is
being wasted.  It's hard enough now guessing how a simple, flat page
will look on various straightforward 800x600, 640x480, or other
screen sizes--and sometimes it's pretty horrifying when you go somewhere
else and see what some people are looking at.  More bizarre screen
layouts will only make it worse.  I don't touch frames with a 10-foot
pole--I think they're nothing but trouble.

> It ain't a Pentium with a super-VGA, but for $300, it's pretty impressive.

Only because (in my opinion) there hasn't been anything like it before and
the "gee-whiz" quotient is very high.  I still suspect it will quickly
become another box sitting in the closet unused as users who get tired of
the net just turn it off and the ones who care move on to conventional
systems with more power, flexibiility, ISP choices, etc.


 --Lauren--

------------------------------

From: jcolb90@aol.com (Jeff Colbert)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 12 Dec 1996 17:56:48 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


Ran a test here in Iowa. I live in a small town outside a city of 100k.
When I gave my home number it said both were toll calls, when, infact,
only one of them was. I ran a couple of other numbers for average sized
Iowa towns, one of the results gave interlata numbers, the other one
intralata numbers. All long distance.

I do hope that there is an option to pick your access number. In my case,
I would want to restrict access to the local number only. If it is not
available, I DO NOT want to be connected long distance automatically. The
other issue, is that if someone wants to connect long distance, they
should be able to choose the number that gets them the best rates.
Oftentimes Interlata is cheaper than Intralata. System should be able to
connect initally to 800 number, list access numbers/locations, let you
choose, and then download in to flash memory/NVram.


Jeff Colbert

------------------------------

From: fadden@netcom.com (Andy McFadden)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Organization: Lipless Rattling Crankbait
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:05:37 GMT


In article <telecom16.658.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Jack Decker
<jack@novagate.com> wrote:

> BUT - this page seems to tell you what you want to hear.  If you type
> in 616-842-xxxx, it tells you it has a local number in the 842
> exchange.  If you use 616-846 instead, it says the local number is in
> 616-846!  Substitute the 847 prefix, and it says the access number's
> in 847, and using 844 says the local number's in 844.

It's a feature. :-)

Some areas are served by an 800 number.  Rather than broadcast the number,
WebTV shows the area code and exchange you asked for.  It's slightly silly,
but eventually those people will be served by a local ISP, and WebTV doesn't
want to appear like they're guaranteeing toll-free access.

> (I do have to give WebTV credit for figuring out that a call
> to Wisconsin would be less expensive than a call to Grand Rapids,
> which appears to be the next closest in-state access point, but they
> aren't always that smart -- callers from the Holland, Michigan area are
> sent to the Grand Rapids number as the toll access point, even though
> Wisconsin would in most cases be a less expensive call for folks in
> that area)!

The toll rates you see now were computed with the November CCMI
database, using TOD Class 2 (evening) on a weekday for a 30-minute
AT&T call.  If you can give me the area codes and exchanges in
question I will check out your statement.

Often you will be given two POPs, one close by and one farther away,
that have the same cost rating but are from different providers.  I
occasionally get complaints about how someone is using a really
distant POP when there's a closer one available, but it turns out the
closer one is more expensive.

A mix of AT&T, MCI, and Sprint rates may be used in the future.

> Bottom line is, it's possible that a lot of WebTV users are going to
> be VERY surprised when they get their phone bills.  Unless the folks
> at WebTV really are putting access numbers in all the exchanges where
> their Web page claims that access is available, I would not be at all
> surprised to hear that they are the target of a class action lawsuit
> filed by disgruntled purchasers (wanting to recover toll charges plus
> the purchase price of their units) somewhere down the line.

Oddly enough, they really are.

The WebTV box warns you every time you're about to make a toll call,
showing you the exact number you are about to dial.  There is no
advantage to hiding toll charges from customers; they're going to find
out about them sooner or later.  Sony & Philips have liberal return
policies, so it's not like people are getting stuck with a box that
they can't use.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried it with the exchanges here in
> Skokie (847-673/674/675 and 847-329) and it consistently came back
> saying I had two local numbers, one in 312-509 which is correct and
> one in 847-480 which is also correct.    PAT] 

You're drowning in POPs, actually. :-)  The two you have are from
different IAPs, so if one is down you'll get the other.  I don't think
anybody else does this, and certainly not at $19.95/month.

And yes, I do work at WebTV Networks.  I speak about "them" and post
from my netcom account to prevent anybody's lawyers from taking what I
say as being official statements.  Nothing I've said is WebTV policy
or opinion, it's all mine.


fadden@netcom.com (Andy McFadden)
Friends don't let friends patent software -- http://www.lpf.org/

------------------------------

From: Thomas P. Brisco <brisco@IConNet.net>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:27:48 -0500
Organization: ICon CMT


I'm not sure that JP and Dave are talking about the same thing.  A
"niche" (presumably for people with reduced physical dexterity)
doesn't necessarily imply "a very good thing".

	The media hype about "the web" has made me nauseous enough so
that I've not even really looked seriously at the WebTV.  Is it
bidirectional?  How are responses keyed in?  Is advertising
splashed/attached to information sent to the screen?

	I've always presumed that it did not allow for full response
capability (i.e. using the "mailto:" URL/buttons to compose replies)
and that it is Madison Avenue's way of ensuring that you have no way
to voice your objections to anything (pretty much the way TV, Radio
and Newspapers are run -- if the dictators approve, your rebuttal will
be aired).

	The interesting thing about the Internet is that it is the
worlds' *second* media that permits the mass population to have an
equal voice to respond to the opinions of the "opinion makers"
(newspaper, tv, etc).  [I consider the "soapbox" or town square to be
the first].


Thomas P. ``Tp'' Brisco                 brisco@core.iconnet.net
Engineering Group			201.319.5260 	(Voice)
ICon CMT Corp				201.601.2018	(Fax)

------------------------------

From: hudsonl@skypoint.com (Hudson Leighton)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:56:54 -0600
Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc.


In article <telecom16.658.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, beck@slidell.com (Jeff
Becklehimer) wrote:

> Alan Bishop (a@corp.webtv.net) wrote:

>>  - we transcode images and other media types.  For example, image
>>    creators often make their images too detailed or store them in
>>    a format that doesn't compress as well as it should.  We fix that
>>    in the proxy before transmitting them over the slow link to the user.

> Just curious, does this violate copyright laws? Also, when you say an
> image is "too detailed" does this mean you also resize or reduce the
> number of colors of the images to make them fit on the screen?

Think about it, they are using a TV as a display moniter, by
"derezing" all the graphics down to that level they save a ton of
bandwith.  I assume that there is no way to get hardcopy out of a
WebTV so who cares about the resolution of the images.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:51:38 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Asynchronous Transfer Mode: Technical Overview" 


BKATMTCO.RVW   960909
 
"Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM): Technical Overview", Harry J. R.
Dutton/Peter Lenhard, 1995, 0-13-520446-1
%A   Harry J. R. Dutton
%A   Peter Lenhard
%C   One Lake St., Upper Saddle River, NJ   07458
%D   1995
%G   0-13-520446-1
%I   Prentice Hall
%O   +1-201-236-7139 fax: +1-201-236-7131 beth_hespe@prenhall.com
%T   "Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM): Technical Overview"
 
Of the books on ATM that I have reviewed so far, this is the most
useful.  Very few people will actually have to deal with ATM on a
technical level, but if you do, you'll likely find this overview
helpful.  The principles, layers, components, characteristics, and
management are all clearly spelled out.  Managers will likely not
appreciate the lack of "words of one syllable" analysis, but ATM is a
complex system in any case.
 
(My appreciation for the book was heightened today by a colleague who
wanted to choose an ISP because "they were the only ones with ATM".
He had no reason that we might need to use ATM for email.)
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   BKATMTCO.RVW   960909   Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications.

roberts@decus.ca           rslade@vcn.bc.ca           rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
                       Materialists are Object Oriented
Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94663-2 (800-SPRINGER)

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    Re: WebTV Sad Story (J.P. White)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (Andy McFadden)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (lr@access4.digex.net)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (John Nagle)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (Jered J Floyd)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (Phil Leonard)
    Re: WebTV Sad Story (Stanley Cline)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 08:03:04 -0800
From: JP White <ffv.aerotech@ffvaerotech.com>
Reply-To: ffv.aerotech@ffvaerotech.com
Organization: FFV Aerotech
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story


> Craig Macbride  <craig@rmit.edu.au> Wrote:

> It already connects to a TV set and many people already have cable TV,
> so it would make sense to make the $450 box include a cable modem and
> just run over the cable TV lines to a net connection. No phone line
> costs; no long-distance charges; no having the phone line in use when
> trying to make or receive phone calls; _much_ faster connection.

> Of course, it wouldn't help if someone is outside the areas serviced by
> cable TV, but that may still mean a lot more people would be covered
> than they are by the WebTV ISP's local phone call areas at present.

As I understand the specifications for the Sony Box, it already
includes hookups for cable. The Sony Literature says, and I quote,
"There's a WebTV Port connector for use with printers, cable modems
and other products."

I expect the reason WebTV isn't pushing the cable modem concept too
hard, is the fact that many metropolitan areas (IE Nashville TN) are
still without cable internet service providers, but virtually everyone
has a phone line. It's early days, give them a chance!  Expect to see
a higher monthly rate when the cable modem does appear as an option. I
doubt they'll give away the extra bandwidth, though it would be real
nice if they did!

The printer option I believe is not currently available either.
WebTV/Sony/Magnavox will most likely clean up next Christmas with a
bunch of new accessories for the WebTV.


JP White
Manager Information Systems
FFV Aerotech Inc.,
Mail to : ffv.aerotech@ffvaerotech.com
Web     : http://www.ffvaerotech.com

------------------------------

From: fadden@netcom.com (Andy McFadden)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Organization: Lipless Rattling Crankbait
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:25:43 GMT


In article <telecom16.661.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Jeff Colbert
<jcolb90@aol.com> wrote:

> Ran a test here in Iowa. I live in a small town outside a city of 100k.
> When I gave my home number it said both were toll calls, when, infact,
> only one of them was. I ran a couple of other numbers for average sized
> Iowa towns, one of the results gave interlata numbers, the other one
> intralata numbers. All long distance.

If you send me the area code and prefix I will look into the issue.
We occasionally find minor errors in the CCMI database or in the way
we use it, and like to get them resolved as quickly as possible.

We list expensive local calls (e.g. $0.25 flat rate per call) as being
non-local, which may be what you're seeing.  Again, the goal is to
avoid causing any surprises for the customer.  Most of them don't care
whether the bill comes from AT&T or the BOC, they're just concerned
about what the calls cost.

> I do hope that there is an option to pick your access number. In my case,
> I would want to restrict access to the local number only. If it is not
> available, I DO NOT want to be connected long distance automatically. The

A dialog comes up before a non-local call is made.  If you don't want
to make the call, don't hit the button.  We err on the side of caution
whenever possible.

> other issue, is that if someone wants to connect long distance, they
> should be able to choose the number that gets them the best rates.
> Oftentimes Interlata is cheaper than Intralata.

We're using the actual tariff data from CCMI.  I did some tests on a few
phone bills and they were dead on.

> System should be able to
> connect initally to 800 number, list access numbers/locations, let you
> choose, and then download in to flash memory/NVram.

Score three out of four.  There are two problems with putting a bunch
of POP numbers on the screen.  First and foremost, it's fine for
technical folks but fairly lame for the bulk of the population who
want to plug it in and then just not worry about it.  The whole "it
just works" concept requires hiding as much of the internal workings
from the mass-market consumer as possible, without subjecting them to
any nasty surprises.  I think the WebTV unit has struck an excellent
balance between hiding the ugly details and letting the user know what
it's doing with the phone lines.

Secondly, the "pick an access number" thing gets really old when POPs
come and go.  As another reader discovered, the WebTV access numbers
are provided by other companies (there's a Concentric Network press
release on the web site at http://webtv.net/, and probably something
there from UUNET as well).  If CNC updated their service and switched
to a new access number in a particular area, the WebTV box would
automatically get the update and shift, which is much nicer than
sending "this number is going away, you must pick a new number now" to
your 12-year-old.  Similarly, if a new access point gets added that's
local to users who previously had to pay toll charges, the change is
transparent and immediate.  (If it went the other way, they'd start
getting a dialog every time the box dials.)

The WebTV way of doing things is different and unfamiliar, and not
without its pitfalls, but by and large it works and works well.
Please understand that the purpose behind hiding information from the
user is to make them comfortable around unfamiliar technology, not
subject them to hidden costs.

(And there I go referring to WebTV as "we".  Remember, these are my
opinions, not those of WebTV Networks, Inc.)


fadden@netcom.com (Andy McFadden)  

------------------------------

From: lr@access4.digex.net (Sir Topham Hatt)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 15 Dec 1996 21:23:52 GMT


Craig Macbride (craig@rmit.EDU.AU) wrote:

> It already connects to a TV set and many people already have cable TV,
> so it would make sense to make the $450 box include a cable modem and
> just run over the cable TV lines to a net connection.

Of course, this would require that the cable company support this.
Frankly, I'm really skeptical of this because most of the cable
operators have a hard enough time delivering TV signals in a forward
direction, let alone a reverse channel.

Everybody has or can get a phone line.

------------------------------

From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:35:45 GMT


Thomas P. Brisco <brisco@IConNet.net> writes:

> The media hype about "the web" has made me nauseous enough so
> that I've not even really looked seriously at the WebTV.  Is it
> bidirectional?  How are responses keyed in?  Is advertising
> splashed/attached to information sent to the screen?

> I've always presumed that it did not allow for full response
> capability (i.e. using the "mailto:" URL/buttons to compose replies)
> and that it is Madison Avenue's way of ensuring that you have no way
> to voice your objections to anything (pretty much the way TV, Radio
> and Newspapers are run -- if the dictators approve, your rebuttal will
> be aired).

    There are two remotes, a small one with arrow keys and a full
keyboard.  E-mail works reasonably well.  It's video that works badly;
it doesn't do QuickTime or AVI.

    We may see well see something like this built into higher-end TV 
sets, like a closed-caption decoder.


John Nagle

------------------------------

From: jered@mit.edu (Jered J Floyd)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 15 Dec 1996 22:40:30 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology


> Alan Bishop (a@corp.webtv.net) wrote:

>>  - we transcode images and other media types.  For example, image
>>    creators often make their images too detailed or store them in
>>    a format that doesn't compress as well as it should.  We fix that
>>    in the proxy before transmitting them over the slow link to the user.

> Just curious, does this violate copyright laws? Also, when you say an
> image is "too detailed" does this mean you also resize or reduce the
> number of colors of the images to make them fit on the screen?

This is actually a very interesting question, which is currently being
debated at the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)
conference in Geneva.  Currently under debate are three copyright
treaties intended to be the first major update of international
copyright law since the Berne Convention in 1971. (WIPO can be found
at http://www.wipo.int/)

Relevant to this topic, one of the treaties, the Treaty on Certain
Questions Concerning the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works,
addresses the question of whether or not cached data can be a
copyright infrigement.  Article 10, item 10.14, paragraph 2, currently
reads:

   Communication of a work can involve a series of acts of
   transmission and temporary storage, such incidental storage being a
   necessary feature of the communication process. If, at any point,
   the stored work is made available to the public, such making
   available constitutes a further act of communication which requires
   authorization. It should be noted that storage falls within the
   scope of the right of reproduction (see Notes on Article 7).

Article 7(2) says:
   (2) Subject to the provisions of Article 9(2) of the Berne
   Convention, it shall be a matter for legislation in Contracting
   Parties to limit the right of reproduction in cases where a
   temporary reproduction has the sole purpose of making the work
   perceptible or where the reproduction is of a transient or
   incidental nature, provided that such reproduction takes place in
   the course of use of the work that is authorized by the author or
   permitted by law.

WebTV's transcoding is (imho) a case in which a temporary reproduction
is made for the 'sole purpose of making the work perceptible', and
since the documents are available publicly on the web, they are being
used in the manner the author intended.  This is just my
interpretation, though, and I Am Not A Lawyer.  I could be wrong; the
wording of these treaties makes my head hurt.

Additionally, another part of this treaty (I'm not sure which article
offhand), can be interpreted to make carriers liable for copyright
violations.  For instance, if you put copyrighted information on your
web page, your ISP, and possibly the telecom carriers you used, would
be liable for copyright infringement.  
 
The third treaty, the Treaty on Intellectual Property in Respect
of Databases would allow owners of databases to copyright non-creative
works, such as facts.  For instance, the NBA wants to copyright
basketball game scores so that they can charge people licensing fees
to distribute them.  Due to many domestic objections, the
U.S. recently decided to withdraw support for this treaty. (A good
article be found at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,6188,00.html)


Jered Floyd '98
jered@mit.edu

------------------------------

From: pleonard@cybercom.net (Phil Leonard)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 00:37:14 GMT


In article ID <telecom16.658.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, beck@slidell.com
(Jeff Becklehimer) writes:

> Just curious, does this violate copyright laws? Also, when you say an
> image is "too detailed" does this mean you also resize or reduce the
> number of colors of the images to make them fit on the screen?

If they ARE violating any copyright laws then everyone of us who cache
images we view on the Internet, are, as well. I know you can't easily
see this with Netscape, but Internet Explorer shows you every image
you ever looked at, until the cache is full and pushes the last image
out to make room for the fresh ones.


http://cybercom.net/~pleonard 
Public PGP Key @ http://cybercom.net/~pleonard/pgp.txt E12F9F8D

------------------------------

From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 02:02:46 GMT
Organization: Catoosa Computing Services
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


> BUT - this page seems to tell you what you want to hear.  If you type
> in 616-842-xxxx, it tells you it has a local number in the 842
> exchange.  If you use 616-846 instead, it says the local number is in
> 616-846!  Substitute the 847 prefix, and it says the access number's
> in 847, and using 844 says the local number's in 844.  Unless they
> have local access lines in all four of the Grand Haven, Michigan
> exchanges (which I would think is rather unlikely), something is

Four numbers *apparently in the same CO* is odd to say the least.

Try going back to the page and entering 706-861-0000 (my prefix); the
page returns 423-756-xxxx and 423-624-xxxx which, even though in a
different state and area code, are local.  One number is UUNet
[756-3630], the other is Concentric [624-1340].  HOWEVER, if I enter
706-965-0000 (which is ALSO local to Chattanooga, but in a different
telco) it says there are *no* local numbers and gives the same
Chattanooga numbers above.  Using other prefixes served by other
non-BellSouth telcos, but still local, did the same thing.  Apparently
WebTV believes that different telco = long distance, which IS NOT
ALWAYS THE CASE!

(For the 706-965 case, *even if* the numbers were LD, they'd be cheap
intraLATA, interstate calls [19c/min at worst] and are often cheaper
than calls to Atlanta, Knoxville, etc.)

You can try going to Concentric's and <the various ISPs that use UUNet,
such as MSN, Earthlink, etc.> web pages and look for local numbers as
well.

> aren't always that smart -- callers from the Holland, Michigan area are
> sent to the Grand Rapids number as the toll access point, even though
> Wisconsin would in most cases be a less expensive call for folks in

Are you *sure*?  It could be an intRALATA call which is often cheaper
than intERLATA calls.

> be VERY surprised when they get their phone bills.  Unless the folks
> at WebTV really are putting access numbers in all the exchanges where
> their Web page claims that access is available, I would not be at all

I'm really surprised they aren't offering 800/888 access at some cost.
An 800/888 number with a large amount of inbound traffic can result in
very low rates -- often lower than the caller can get!  (I know of
companies -- most of them inbound call centers -- that pay 7-8c/min for
their 800/888 traffic; they do generate a large number of inbound calls,
of course.  CompuServe has charged 8c/min for 800 access -- now handled
by LCI -- for some time.)

Assuming a charge of 10-12c/min (average for ISPs) this is lower than
most customer-side LD charges, and would *still* allow additional
revenue for WebTV.


  Stanley Cline (Roamer1 on IRC) ** GO BRAVES!  GO VOLS!
 mailto:roamer1@pobox.com  **  http://pobox.com/~roamer1/
           CompuServe 74212,44 ** MSN WSCline1

------------------------------

From: toolbox@ibm.net
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:41:40 GMT
Organization: Nut Screws and Bolts - Film at 11
Reply-To: toolbox@ibm.net


Around Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:27:48 -0500, Thomas P. Brisco <brisco@
IConNet.net> wrote:

> Is it bidirectional?  How are responses keyed in?  Is advertising
> splashed/attached to information sent to the screen?

WebTV is essentially a very bare-bones web browser and email client.
You can send email from WebTV, but it's easier if you have $60
wireless keyboard.  People who email from WebTV have "@webtv.net" on
their email addresses.

> I've always presumed that it did not allow for full response
> capability (i.e. using the "mailto:" URL/buttons to compose replies)
> and that it is Madison Avenue's way of ensuring that you have no way
> to voice your objections to anything (pretty much the way TV, Radio
> and Newspapers are run -- if the dictators approve, your rebuttal will
> be aired).

Absolutely NOT TRUE!  You can send email with WebTV.  They even
advertise this on their advertisements!  I just visited my local
electronics store and sent email to their customer service dept from
the demo WebTV box (but the demo units are restricted to email only to
WebTV customer service for obvious reasons).

Alas, USENET newsgroups are not supported by WebTV.


toolbox@ibm.net

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:00:10 PST
From: Alan Bishop <a@corp.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story


Hi.  Although I'm a software engineer for WebTV networks, these are my
own opinions, and I don't speak for the company in any way.

beck@slidell.com (Jeff Becklehimer) writes:

> Also, when you say an image is "too detailed" does this mean you also
> resize or reduce the number of colors of the images to make them fit
> on the screen?

We resize large images so that they fit on a television screen.  We
translate from one image format to another.  I believe that some image
formats store information in a "most detailed" to "least detailed"
order, which means we can algorithmically throw away detail that
wouldn't show up anyway.

hudsonl@skypoint.com (Hudson Leighton) writes:

> I assume that there is no way to get hardcopy out of a WebTV so who
> cares about the resolution of the images.

There is no printing capability today.  However, we are working on it.
In order to record information found on the web, some users are taping
sessions on their VCRs.

Thomas P. Brisco <brisco@IConNet.net> writes:

> The media hype about "the web" has made me nauseous enough so that
> I've not even really looked seriously at the WebTV.  Is it
> bidirectional?  How are responses keyed in?

> I've always presumed that it did not allow for full response
> capability (i.e. using the "mailto:" URL/buttons to compose replies)
> and that it is Madison Avenue's way of ensuring that you have no way
> to voice your objections to anything (pretty much the way TV, Radio
> and Newspapers are run -- if the dictators approve, your rebuttal will
> be aired).

There's a good chance that your local home electronics dealer has
either a Sony or Philips unit set up that you can play with.

It is bidirectional.  The user selects the content to be displayed,
using a selection box that highlights URLs, buttons, and other active
areas.  You can also enter URLs directly.

You have three options for keying in responses.  (1) You can pull up
an on-screen keyboard and select keys.  This is time consuming, but is
suitable for some input.  (2) You can get the optional wireless
keyboard.  (3) You can plug a standard PC keyboard into the back.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "full response capability".
We provide incoming and outgoing email.  You can read and post Usenet
news via dejanews or other web based news services.  You can fill in
text areas in HTML forms and press buttons.

Since you appear to be concerned about censorship, I'll describe the
content screening options.  You have a choice of (a) no screening, (b)
SurfWatch screening, which operates off of a list of pages to reject,
or (c) young child screening, which operates off of a list of pages to
allow.  You can select a different screening option for each of the
users who share a box.  Some stores have enabled screening for their
demo units, but you're in control of a box that you own.


alan

------------------------------

From: mark@compu.co.jp (Mark Ashley)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:21:07 GMT
Organization: - CompuCo Japan


Alan Bishop <a@corp.webtv.net> wrote:

>> In defense of WebTV they do provide a service where you give them your
>> area code and first three digits of your local number and they will
>> inform you if the call is local or not. However there is catch 22,
>> this service is available on their Web page, so if you havn't got Web
>> access your stuck.

> That's at:

> http://webtv.net/HTML/home.retail.html (.net, not .com)

I think that the choice of the .NET address will confuse many of the
users that WebTV is trying to cater to. Many new users think every
address ends with a .com, and get very confused when they see .net,
mil, and other things. This happened with MSN when they first started
out. They had aquired MSN.NET, but later bought MSN.COM from some
company that had it. I wonder if WebTV will buy out webtv.com?

------------------------------

From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry Baker)
Subject: Re: WebTV (Not So) Sad Story
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:15:20 GMT


In article <telecom16.658.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Jack Decker
<jack@novagate.com> wrote:

> I also suspect that many of the WebTV buyers of this year will be
> lining up to get a REAL computer and Internet connection next year --
> if they aren't totally turned off to the Internet by the whole WebTV
> experience, that is!

I disagree.  I spent two hours playing with WebTV, and I think that it
is ideal for a non-computer person.  I know many of my computer
friends who are buying them for their mothers to keep in touch with
their netizen children.  I do think that the keyboard is essential
(the on-screen keyboard works, but is too slow for anything but typing
in a few URL's).

Even the manual that comes with WebTV is written in the same familiar,
but incomprehensible style that all Sony consumer product manuals are
written in.<g> Luckily, you don't need to look at it very much to get
going.

An existing PC user will not find WebTV acceptable for any real work,
but this product isn't aimed at them.

I do hope that WebTV plans to offer in the near future:

1.  A local disk upgrade to cache web pages.  Even a few extra megabytes
of local caching RAM could help a lot.

2.  The new USRobotics/Rockwell 56Kbits/sec modem technology.  This
should help for next Xmas's sales.

3.  Ethernet option for office/kiosk use.

4.  Regular PC monitor option for higher-quality video -- i.e., for
heavy duty users who don't care about displaying it on their TV's.  Or
incorporate a TV tuner and display the TV picture on the
higher-quality TV monitor.

5.  Some mechanism for local printing -- i.e., to a local fax machine
cleverly integrated in some way with the same phone line that is used for
the modem and/or a cheap external printer that doubles as a fax machine
when the WebTV isn't in use.  The ability to locally print email is very
important, even for non-PC types.  A 'fax' print of some web pages would
also be useful.

6.  Some ability to integrate a Connectix-style cheap camera, even if
only for still shots.  Grandma could send pix to her kids & vice
versa.

7.  WebTV email is _very_ basic -- no audio, pix or video.  Some
additional software work on the email system could make this really
cool.  Incorporate local pix/sound into the email.

8.  Put in higher quality audio system for the upcoming 56Kbit/cable
modems.  If put under the cabinets in the kitchen, one could finally
listen to RealAudio radio stations all day long, instead of the drivel
that comes out of the AM/FM dial.

9.  Incorporate a cordless phone into the unit, so that you don't have
to run a phone wire over to the TV.  In some houses, this could be a
real pain.  You also get a cordless phone out of the bargain.
Alternatively, utilize some sort of household wiring to carry the
bits.

[WebTV: email me, and I'll tell you where to send the consulting
check.  ;-)]

------------------------------

From: leob@best.com (Leonid A. Broukhis)
Subject: Re: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective
Date: 15 Dec 1996 23:37:21 -0800
Organization: BEST Internet Communications


 From my point of view, WebTV is little more than a toy without a
printer interface. What worth is receiving e-mail if you cannot print
it; what worth is browsing the Net if you cannot print a single line
of information you need to save for later perusal?

Judging by www.webtv.net, they don't address the issue now and do not
provide any info on supporting printer interface in future.


Leo

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org>
Subject: WebTV Upgrade Released 
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 15:47:52 -0800
Organization: Strategies & Technologies, Inc. (STI)


WebTV just implemented an upgrade that subscribers should know about.

First, RealAudio has been added.  That's one step in the right
direction.  I hope support for Shockwave, PDF, QuickTime, QuickTimeVR,
and frames aren't too far behind.  BTW, until this Web spoofing stuff
can be resolved, WebTV should stay away from adding support for
JavaScript or ActiveX.

Second, they've added background music.  The music seems to repeat
after an hour or so, but it's pretty good.  What they need to do is to
support viewer selection of a musical genre.  Personally, I like The
Music of Cyberspace series.

Third, they've made it possible to switch users without logging off and
logging on again.

There were a few other additions, such as checking for e-mail even when
the unit is off, but the above are the main upgrade features.

BTW, it was totally painless to add the upgrades.  It took about 10
minutes, but it was a simple click on the remote control.  That's it!

WebTV, albeit a consumer product, is the best example of why NCs are
needed:  Ease of maintenance!  No more goofy Microsoft Windows
functions, like logging off by hitting the "Start" icon (boy, wasn't
that intuitive!).

For your enjoyment, here are four useful URLs (each is an article):

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,6043,00.html

http://www.packet.com/schrage/today.html
  (this one, because it ends with "today.html" may not last for long!)

http://techweb.cmp.com:80/ng/nov96/fcompare.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/web/docsroot/library/cyber/techcol/1202techcol.html

For a pointer, go to:
http://users.visi.net/~cwt/tv-inet.html


David Scott Lewis    thewebguy@acm.org

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 11:14 EST
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
Subject: Re: WebTV vs. Client and Display Technology
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


> limitation of the current WebTV unit.  No matter how many tricks you
> play with direct video out and S-video interfaces, the bandwidth of
> conventional North American NTSC (or PAL/SECAM for that matter)
> televisions makes them generally unsuitable for displaying significant
> amounts of text.

That's what I thought, too.  They do some tricky patented thing, and
the text looks about three times better than I would have thought NTSC
could do.  Wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it in person.  I
visited some of my own text-heavy pages, and they were quite legible.

In the longer run, WebTV encourages page authors to produce customized
versions of pages to serve up when a webTV request comes in, with
smaller pages and more TV-friendly colors and layout.  If they get
their critical mass, I suspect this will happen, since a surprising
number of sites already have different Netscape versions for frames
and non-frames clients and the like.

It ain't a Pentium with a super-VGA, but for $300, it's pretty impressive.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com "Space aliens are stealing American jobs." - MIT econ prof

------------------------------

From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards)
Subject: Re: WebTV vs. Client and Display Technology
Date: 15 Dec 1996 21:42:44 GMT
Organization: Ripco Communications Inc.


In article <telecom16.661.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Lauren Weinstein
<lauren@vortex.com> wrote:

>> That's what I thought, too.  They do some tricky patented thing, and
>> the text looks about three times better than I would have thought NTSC
>> could do.  Wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it in person.  I
>> visited some of my own text-heavy pages, and they were quite legible.

> I went and looked at it on several hookups (video and s-video) and
> wasn't impressed at all.  I saw typical NTSC crawl around edges, and
> the flicker was very annoying to stare at, especially on typical pages
> with heavy white background content.  S-video naturally looks better
> than video, but only relatively, and only high-end TVs typically
> even have an s-video hookup.

I stopped to play with one today in Circuit City, and it looked good
_for_a_television_set_. S-Video makes a big difference on text, but I
doubt I'd want it as my primary web browser.

>> In the longer run, WebTV encourages page authors to produce customized
>> versions of pages to serve up when a webTV request comes in, with
>> smaller pages and more TV-friendly colors and layout.  If they get
>> their critical mass, I suspect this will happen, since a surprising
>> number of sites already have different Netscape versions for frames
>> and non-frames clients and the like.

Actually, I found it rather annoying that my pages came up with a white
background -- I didn't check if it lets you set a background color, I'd hope
so -- basic black is much easier on the eyes.

FYI, WebTV identifies itself as:
		Mozilla/1.22 WebTV/1.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.0)

>> It ain't a Pentium with a super-VGA, but for $300, it's pretty impressive.

> Only because (in my opinion) there hasn't been anything like it before and
> the "gee-whiz" quotient is very high.  I still suspect it will quickly
> become another box sitting in the closet unused as users who get tired of
> the net just turn it off and the ones who care move on to conventional
> systems with more power, flexibiility, ISP choices, etc.

Or even the unconventional Sega Saturn based browser, which supposedly
looks as good, lets you choose any PPP provider, and when you're sick of
the web, you can pop in a game or even a music CD.


David Richards                             Ripco, since Nineteen-Eighty-Three
My opinions are my own,                    Public Access in Chicago
But they are available for rental          Shell/SLIP/PPP/UUCP/ISDN/Leased
dr@ripco.com                               (312) 665-0065 !Free Usenet/E-Mail!

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From: ricardo@netcom.com (Ricardo Cedar Springs)
Subject: Telephone Switchboard Electronics Web Site
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:50:13 GMT


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co interfaces are delivered pre-assembled, working and tested.

12 speech paths are provided to support non-blocked operation and
support multiple conference calls in progress at the same time.

All of the ports have the same terminating impedance when
measured from the switch matrix allowing any port to be connected
to any other port.

One board provides a complete system, all the necessary common
control and signaling components to set up multiple conversations
at one time are included. 

Basic and flexible, the software is modular by nature allowing
complete software control to create sophisticated communications
products.

The evaluation kit is $375 and is provided with a power supply which
is UL registered. Two of the eight slics and one of the three co
interfaces are already assembled. When you receive the board you will
be able to lift either extension phone and receive dial tone, be able
to make intercom calls which ring standard phones, make calls external
to the system by dialing 9, receive calls from the outside and
transfer the calls to another extension and answer any ringing phone
by dialing 9. The evaluation kit works when you receive it. You can
also expand the evaluation kit by adding easy to purchase components
and simply soldering them to the board following the pattern of the
already assembled circuits.

Feature Overview:

8 station 3 trunk, expandable to 16 station 6 trunk. (expansion
board is $160 partially assembled).

2 DTMF Senders           (one is provided in the EVKIT)
2 DTMF Receivers         (one is provided in the EVKIT)
2 imprecise call progress receivers   (one is provided in the EVKIT)
2 dial tone generators
90vac 20hz Bell Ringing Invertor
SLIC Supervision Generator   (forces answering machines to hang up)
SLIC Ring trip detect    (detects offhook during application of ringing signal)
All ports can add gain to the call.
SLIC can transmit audio during on-hook. (Slic can send audio,
like caller id, to extensions)
CO can receive audio on-hook    (caller id can be decoded by a
central, shared, CID decoder)
2 expansion connectors with CPU bus and audio channels.
Full Duplex Serial Port (300,1200,9600 bps 8-N-1)
Conference Matrix for conference calls. (Any time three ports
need to be on the same call.)
8051 CPU, 64KROM, 8KRAM

Suggested Applications with provided software:

+Small Telephone System for Home or Small Business.
+Personalized Ringing Pattern Decoder for fax machine or modem.
+Modem Pool controller. You cant barge in on a conversation in
progress.
+Anyplace one phone needs to call another.
+Anyplace one, two or three telephone lines need to be shared in
a convenient non intrusive   manner.

Applications you might develop by modifying the software and
interfacing to the hardware:

+SEAMLESS integration of internet phone software/sound blaster card to
home or office phone system. Imagine picking up a standard phone and
dialing a intercom call around the world over the internet phone and
reaching another standard phone at the other end. Might even be able
to receive calls from the switched network and go back to the switched
network.  

+Automated and transparent (to the user) intercept and rerouting of
voice calls to private networks or common carriers. (1+ to 10XXX+ as
an example).

     Remember the schematics and source code are included which
makes modification, expansion and integration easier.

     Important note: This system is based on technology I presented in
a article in Circuit Cellar-The Computer Applications Journal. The
EVKIT is MUCH IMPROVED over the circuits presented in the article. If
you are looking for something which is COST EFFECTIVE and CHEAP then
the EVKIT is probably not for you. The EVKIT is comparable to what
other companies are offering except the SCHEMATICS and SOURCE CODE are
provided with each unit. No other telephone switch manufacturer does
this.

------------------------------

Subject: Indian Satellite Data Now in Europe
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:52:09 PST
From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Reply-To: rishab@dxm.org


The Indian Techonomist: bulletin, December 13, 1996
Copyright (C) 1996 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh. All rights reserved

Indian remote-sensing data now in Europe

     December 13, 1996: GAF-Euromap of Germany has tied up with the 
     Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) for European rights
     to maket remote-sensing data from the Indian IRS-1C
     satellite. IRS-1C data is already distributed in the
     US and elsewhere by EOSAT - bought from Lockheed-
     Martin last month by Space Imaging Inc (SII). IRS-1C
     acquires the highest spatial resolution remote
     sensing data commercially available in the world
     today. Indeed, Space Imaging president Jeff Harris said last
     month that "with the Indian satellites [IRS and P-
     series], we are entering a new era of earth
     information products."
     
     Since its launch on December 28 last year, IRS-1C
     has been, says ISRO, the most sophisticated civilian
     remote sensing satellite in orbit. Space industry
     sources point out that although data is commercially
     available from Russian satellites originally built
     for military use, at somewhat higher resolutions
     than IRS-1C's 5-metre panchromatic (photographic)
     range, only IRS-1C provides full access to raw
     digital scanning data, rather than basic analogue
     photographs. In addition, IRS-1C provides many
     services other than photography: 25-metre
     multispectral data, which is essential for
     vegetation and natural resource planning; and 180-
     metre wide-field data with a repeated coverage as
     the satellite completes its orbit every five days -
     this, says SII/EOSAT, is excellent for large-area
     resource monitoring.
     
     IRS-1C data is currently acquired at three ground
     stations. At Shadnagar, India, an ISRO facility
     receives data for South Asia and portions of South-
     East and West Asia. SII/EOSAT's Norman, Oklahoma
     ground station receives data for almost all of North
     America including southern Canada and Mexico, as
     well as most of Central America. At Neustrelitz,
     Germany, GAF in cooporation with the German
     Aerospace Research Establishment (DLR) gathers
     remote sensing data covering Europe, northern Africa
     and parts of West Asia. The GAF facility has been
     operational since February this year, and its data
     will now, with the latest agreement, be marketed
     throughout Europe by GAF-Euromap.
     
     SII/EOSAT is also working on ground stations in
     cooperation with the National Space Development
     Agency, Japan; the Council of Scientific and
     Industrial Research of South Africa, the Australian
     Center for Remote Sensing, and the National Research
     Council of Thailand. It has an arrangement with
     Antrix Corp Ltd, the marketing arm of India's
     Department of Space, to make Indian satellite data
     available worldwide for at least the next decade.
     
     India is among the few countries to build and launch
     its own satellites. The IRS-1C is third in a line of
     advanced civilian remote-sensing satellites, and
     ISRO has also developed several geostationary
     satellites in the INSAT series, which are used for
     telecommunications and broadcasting. The agency has
     successfully tested its Polar Satellite Launch
     Vehicle (PSLV) and expects a geostationary launcher
     (GSLV) to be ready by the end of the decade. ISRO is
     negotiating with several global ventures, such as
     Iridium - in which the Indian government has an
     equity stake - for the development and launch of low-
     earth orbit satellites.
     

The Indian Techonomist: http://dxm.org/techonomist/news/
Copyright (C) 1996 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@techonomist.dxm.org)
A4/204 Ekta Vihar 9 Indraprastha Extension New Delhi 110092 INDIA
May be distributed electronically provided that this notice is attached

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 20:52:29 EST
From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Sprint Ordered to Pay $60 Million to One of Their Marketers

                Arbitrators order Sprint to pay $60 million
                                      
                            The Associated Press
                          12/14/96 2:48 PM Eastern
                                      
   KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Arbitrators have ordered Sprint
   Communications Corp. to pay $60.9 million in commissions to a
   marketing company and its sales agents.

The article continues with an explanation that the "Network 200
marketing repersentatives", felt they had been shortchanged on
commisions, and had filed suit back in 1992. The reps, per the story,
filed against both Sprint and Network 2000.
   
   Friday's ruling by a three-member panel requires Sprint to pay half
   the money to Network 2000 Communications Corp. of Independence and
   half to the firm's sales representatives.
   
   Network 2000 still has a contract with Sprint to sell its
   long-distance service, said Network 2000 Chairman Larry Stewart.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 01:03:08 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: GTE suit
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


Excerpt from Full Closing Bell for Friday, Dec 13, 1996

* GTE filed suit to overturn a decision by Pennsylvania regulators
  governing the terms by which AT&T can hook up to GTE's local
  phone network under the new communications law. The suit is the
  first of its kind by a local phone company against state
  regulators. The suit also represents a further escalation in the
  legal battel GTE is waging over the terms it must use to open its
  local network to new competitors under the communications law.
  (Reuters 07:07 PM ET 12/12/96) For the full text story, see
  http://www.merc.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=747171-624 

------------------------------

From: Mike King <mk@wco.com>
Subject: NEWS: Pacific Bell Responds To MCI Allegations (fwd)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:39:51 PST


  ----- Forwarded Message -----

 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:50:29 -0800
 From: sqlgate@sf-ptg-fw.pactel.com
 Subject: NEWS: Pacific Bell Responds To MCI Allegations

FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Craig Watts
(415) 394-3739

Pacific Bell Responds To MCI Allegations

SAN FRANCISCO -- Pacific Bell today said a complaint filed by MCI with
the California Public Utilities Commission is a transparent,
self-serving attempt to manipulate regulators and unfairly influence
the outcome of telephone competition.

At the heart of the matter is MCI's determination to hasten its entry
into the local phone market while creating regulatory stall tactics to
delay Pacific Bell's entry into California's high profitable long
distance market.

"This complaint from MCI is just one more brazen attempt to stampede
California regulators," said Lee Bauman, Pacific Bell's vice president
for local competition. "MCI's action is carefully timed. Next week, the
CPUC will act on the arbitrated interconnection agreement between MCI
and Pacific Bell. That agreement is vital to MCI's interests in
providing local service, and equally important to Pacific Bell as one
more prerequisite to its entry into the long distance business.

"Although we haven't seen their complaint yet, MCI is hardly in a
position to accuse another company of inefficiency in its approach to
local competition," Bauman continued. "For example, MCI refuses to use
the electronic order system that Pacific Bell designed to the
specifications of local competitors. AT&T and others are using it today
to speed along their customer service. Instead, MCI insists on using
"snail-mail" to ship Pacific Bell thousands of orders in cartons. We
have to dedicate hundreds of people to process MCI's orders by hand, fix
a myriad of MCI errors, and input those orders into our electronic
system."

Bauman reiterated that Pacific Bell is highly motivated to make sure
local competition proceeds quickly and effectively, and will work with
MCI and any other competitive local carrier to address problems as they
arise.

Pacific Bell is a subsidiary of Pacific Telesis Group, a diversified
telecommunications company based in San Francisco.

                     ------------
 
       Mike King   *   Oakland, CA, USA   *   mk@wco.com

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: N11 Codes
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:49:50 -0800


In article <telecom16.660.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, bpurcell@centuryinter.net
(Brian Purcell) wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that N11 codes *can't* be used as CO codes since it
> would difficult to program equipment to recognize only a few of the
> N11s as special service numbers and the others as CO codes.

Actually, that's not the case.  There are a couple of N11 POTS prefixes
in New York City, to be specific.  (212-211 and 212-311, IIRC)  Basically,
the switches determine from the prefix how many additional digits to
anticipate, the options being zero or four.  In some Pacific Bell areas,
the ANI readback number is just 760.  In other areas, they tack on a
four-digit extension after the prefix.  (In fact, they may now do that
in all areas, since they seem to be rotating the -XXXX periodically to
keep the kids out.)  Also, I don't know if the upcoming introduction of
760 as an area code in southern California will affect the use of 760
as a test code.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: N11 Codes
Date: 13 Dec 1996 00:31:35 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.660.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Mark J. Cuccia
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

> That would allow a *FAR* bigger numbering space for reaching the
> departments of the Washington DC (District of Criminals?) central
> government, than would taking up any few other N11 codes!

I respectully disagree. I subscibe to the theory that N11 are national
treasures, to be doled out very carefully. The 311 for "non-emergency" 911
may be a good start (clogged 911 is a major problem, at least in the LA
area). 

OTOH, I have no problem with re-using the N11 (except probably 911) as
AREA CODES. There should be no ambiguities, as area codes are always
preceded by a one (except from some cellphones, but the cellswich gets all
the digits and can obviously determine by the presence or absence of more
digits whether an area code N11 or a special access N11 is dialled).


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: D Banks <david_banks@gdt.com>
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:53:45 -0800
Organization: Online at Wimsey


Craig, Michael S. wrote:

> FYI, in Canada, there has been a consistent, albeit far from universal,
> use of N11 codes for a variety of deemed-to-be *public* services:

> 211     Not used
> 311     Not used
> 411     Directory Assistance (mirrors 1-NXX-555-12-12 ... used to be
> local-only, now covers NPA)
> 511     Not used* *has been used for separation of TDD and TTY Relay Services
> 611     Telco Repair Service
> 711     Relay Service (primary number: see 511 above)
> 811     Telco Business Office (customer service)
> 911     Emergency

FWIW, in British Columbia, dialing 211 will tell you your own phone
number (ANI?)

We used to be quite strange until 1985.

Feature    Pre 85  Post 85
LD           112      1
Direct Ass.  113      411
Repair       114      611
ANI?         116      211

Dialling 115 (IIRC), used to 'cut' your line for two minutes.

Was BC the only place in North America to use 112+Number for LD instead
of 1+Number?

------------------------------

From: Josef J. Finsel <JJFinsel@cbld.com>
Subject: Information Needed on Destiny Telecom
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:52:06 -0500


Pat:

I have an urgent need to know if there is any info in the archives about
Destiny Telecom.  I just found out that our company ceo needs to explain
this to the head of CBI and I am looking for help.


Thanks

Josef Finsel
IS Mgr, CBLD
513.369.2155

------------------------------

From: rlm@netcom.com (Robert McMillin)
Subject: Los Nettos as ISP (was: WebTV: Pricing and Access Issues)
Reply-To: rlm@helen.surfcty.com
Organization: Charlie Don't CERF
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:19:06 GMT


On 10 Dec 1996 03:18:09 PDT, Davew@cris.com (Dave Harrison) said:

> David Scott Lewis (thewebguy@acm.org) wrote:

> Just a note about ISI, or "Los Nettos".  They have a T3 to MCI, and
> a pipe to Mae-West, but, as of a month ago, weren't peering with
> anyone at the Mae.

> Los Nettos sells T3s, T1s, 56k, etc. and shared and dedicated ethernet
> connections to ISP's and anyone else who wants a connection. There are
> a LOT of ISP's in the same building as ISI ... they save on the leased
> line and they get cheap service from ISI ... while other access
> providers sell T3's for up to 27 grand a month, you can get one from
> ISI for $8,250/month.  ISI's T1's are $920 a month, while elsewhere,
> they range from 1000 to almost 3 grand.

One thing the above does NOT mention is that Los Nettos requires
leased lines -- they do not support frame relay, ATM, ISDN, or
anything else.  All the above were contributing technical reasons we
decided not to use Los Nettos (or any of the companies sharing space
at their Admiralty Way facility) at my company.  Service was offered
with 'take-it-or-leave-it' indifference.  It's all quite surprising,
since ISI/Los Nettos is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, ISP in
the Los Angeles area.


Robert L. McMillin  | rlm@helen.surfcty.com | Netcom: rlm@netcom.com

------------------------------

From: ozzyfudd@mindspring.com (Scott Bushey)
Subject: Baby Bell Complaints About Internet Usage
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:26:47 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc.
Reply-To: ozzyfudd@mindspring.com


I am a writer for the online periodical "American Computing Magazine"
(www.mindspring.com/~ozzyfudd/amercomp.htm).

I am currently working on an article to appear in our February Issue
regarding the Baby Bells claims that Internet usage is crippling the
nations telephone network, and that raising rates, eliminating
flat-rate calling, and forcing ISPs to bill on a time basis is the
only solution.  To date I have seen a lot of information contrary to
this opinion in several newsgroups and also from MCI.

We want to make sure that our information is as technically accurate
as possible, and so I hope that any of you who are knowledgeable on
this subject could e-mail information on this subject to
ozzyfudd@mindspring.com.

I have heard several ideas which center around the way in which the
bells configure their switches, and am especially interested in this.

All contributors will be credited in the article,


J. Scott Bushey
ozzyfudd@mindspring.com

------------------------------

From: roamer1@.pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: AT&T True Connections 500 Observations
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 02:03:00 GMT
Organization: Catoosa Computing Services
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


I just acquired a 500 number from AT&T (the "True Connections" service.)
Here's what I've found in the past few days:

Caller ID

If a caller uses 1-800-Call-ATT/1-800-321-0288 to reach AT&T (from
COCOTs, etc.) and use one of my PINs, I get caller ID.  If they dial
either *1*+500 or *0*+500 (without using one of the 800 access numbers),
I do NOT get Caller ID.  (Never mind that if I dial 10288 + 1 or 0 + any
other number [non-500], I DO get caller ID!)

Phones Not PICed to AT&T

If someone dials 0+500 from a phone *not* PICed to AT&T, they *always*
get the message "Please hold for operator assistance", followed by an
operator, instead of the prompt to enter a PIN.  I checked with AT&T on
this, and said this should *not* be happening.  Does anyone know what's
up with this?

If someone not subscribed to AT&T calls 1+500 (billing it to their
phone), the 80c/call "casual calling" Nonsubscriber Service Charge does
NOT apply.  (Verified with my bills back when I had LCI, as well as AT&T
rep.)

Cellular

1+500 does not work (expected, and *fully disclosed* in the 500 service
manual.)  Here, BellSouth allows 0+500 and CellOne does *not* (they
appear to like MCI.)  The American Roaming Network credit card roaming
service *does* allow calls to 0+500 numbers (although not free by any
means, even with a PIN.  In this case, the caller would have to pay for
the airtime/roaming with a credit or LEC calling card, and I would pay
for long distance from [Dallas?] to here.)

COCOTs

Most do not allow 0+500 to be dialed; if they are *not* presubscribed to
AT&T they try to send the call through *their AOS* which does NOT work!
(How can USLD, Oncor, etc. bill for calls going through AT&T's network?
They CAN'T!)  I've found that dialing 10288+0+500 works at least on #5E
switches in the Chattanooga area, but presents the problem of the
operator if the phone's 1+ provider is not AT&T (see Phones Not PICed to
AT&T, above.)  Since most COCOTs I'm aware of use either AMNEX or LCI as
their 1+ carrier, I land up getting the operator.

LEC phones (even BellSouth's COCOT-ized phones) do work correctly, of
course, as AT&T handles all 1+ (but not necessarily 0+) from them.

I have contacted the FCC about the AOS dilemma; IMHO since only the
carrier who ISSUED a 500 number can process or bill calls to that
number, COCOTs should be REQUIRED to send 0+500 calls out DIRECT,
withOUT AOSlime interference.  (If COCOTs are allowed to charge for
800/888, they probably will for 500 too.)

Fake Ringing

The ringing given on all numbers until the last one (aka Final Stop)
is reached is fake.  (How do I know this?  I have my home number, then
my other home number, then my cellular number set as sequence numbers;
if I call to my 500 number from my home line, or if the line is busy,
it is set to forward to my cellular line.  I can tell the ringing AT&T
gives me is *NOT* the same as from the cellular switch.  Ringing from
Hughes GMH2000 switches -- the switch BellSouth Mobility here uses --
is LOUD compared to #5E/DMS ringing.)

Using Master PIN and Calling "Home"

The Master PIN can't be used by the 500 number holder to bill calls to
the 500 number.  If I enter my Master PIN, I am given the choice to
"place a call"; then I can press one button to "call home" or enter
another number of my choice.  If I use this feature, I am billed the
"Place-A-Call" rates (including 80c/call "calling card" charge) rather
than only the toll.)  I would prefer that I could use the Master PIN to
bill calls to "myself", rather than having to keep a normal PIN for that
purpose.

Further, the rates for calls placed through a 500 number do *not* match
the rates for calling card calls for One Rate customers.  This may be a
tariff issue, but I'd rather be able to use the Place-A-Call feature and
get billed my One Rate card rate rather than the 500 "basic" rate.

(But then again, I have other calling cards -- that charge less, such as
VoiceNet, CompuServe, etc. -- which I use for most calls!)

All in all, I have found the 500 service to be worthwhile (instead of
having call forwarding all over the place, I can give out one number,
and let either the caller or myself pay for the calls) but it's still a
bit quirky.


  Stanley Cline (Roamer1 on IRC) ** GO BRAVES!  GO VOLS!
 mailto:roamer1@pobox.com  **  http://pobox.com/~roamer1/
           CompuServe 74212,44 ** MSN WSCline1
 
------------------------------

From: Paul A. Houle <houle@msc.cornell.edu>
Subject: Unethical Sprint Marketing to College Students
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:27:45 -0500
Organization: Cornell University,  Department of Physics


I'm a graduate student and I recently had an unpleasant
experience with Sprint's marketing arm aimed at college students.

	A telemarketer called up Olivia a few weeks ago asking if I
was in and she said I wasn't -- they asked if I'd like a "free
foncard" and she said no and hung up.  She didn't think anything of
it.

	Well, yesterday I got not one but two foncards with my name
and phone number on them.  When I called the customer service number
listed on the card, I was directed into a voice-response comptuer
maze.  After wasting ten minutes I decided to push the panic button
and "press 2 to report a lost or stolen card."  This got me through to
an operator who gave me a lot of grief.  For instance, she wanted my
social security number.  I told here that it wasn't her business since
Sprint shouldn't even know what my social security number is since I
haven't given it to them.  She ended up having to call me back to
verify that I was really calling from home and then she canceled the
cards.

	I wrote a letter to the customer service address given on the
junk mail complaining about the sleazy tactics.  Is there anybody I
can write to to help Sprint catch hell for this?

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    WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report (hisys@rmi.net)
    Internet/TV Convergence (Monty Solomon)
    Dataquest Survey Blasts Internet Television (David Scott Lewis)
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From: hisys@rmi.net 
Subject: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report
Date: 17 Dec 1996 07:18:14 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet


Allow me to be the curmudgeon for a moment ...

Is WebTV a blessing for the Internet, or for our culture?  I have my
doubts.  And all the hand-wringing charges of elitism aren't going to
change any facts, either way.  This message will be quickly labeled as
doomsaying and other predictable dismissals by some.  Feel free to
stop reading now and slap on a convenient label, if such oversimpli-
fications appeal to you.

There's a soundbite at the end; skip to it if you get bored. <smile>

I don't think there's a great deal we can do about the movement of
which WebTV is one leading edge; that is a massive juggernaut,
probably building up near to trillions of dollars in cumulative
revenues in my lifetime.  The best I can do right now is to "name the
beast" with as clear and honest sight as I have (and maybe suggest
some interesting eddies that coexist with the main flow rather than
stopping it).  Be warned that this is largely focussing on the "down
side", because the "up side" will be promoted and hyped with a
thousand paid and a million unpaid voices, and doesn't need my help.
It's not all bad, but we need to acknowledge the bad aspects rather
than pretend not to notice.

My concerns have to do with quality and quantity, as well as "net
culture".  WebTV seems to be taking the the same fine quality delta
that AOLine has been known for, and moving it several notches further.
No doubt we'll pick up a few eloquent voices, a few urban poets of
great vision, and a few unsong heros.  But in all honestly, WebTV aims
to bring massive numbers of the couch potato "I pay you to keep me
amused" folks online.  The goal is to ultimately expand the user base
for the Internet by many fold, swamping the current users and any 'net
culture' they might still have; there will be little chance to
"enculturate" the newcomers with any of the values or (sub)culture of
the old internet -- their "culture" will be manufactured the big media
corporations.

My predictions: the differentiation into 'info providers' and 'informa-
tion consumers' will continue to accelerate, with collaboration, peer
networks, information sharing, volunteerism and mutuality becoming
ever less used concepts.

"Info consumers" will be looking to be entertained, or at most
superficially "educated".  As Intel has stated, their mission
statement is not to build computers, but to compete for consumer
eyeball time, head to head against television.  Expect more action on
the screen, of the flash-without-content sort.  Fast cuts, short
nibbles of "sound bite" type text.  Aimed at "don't change that
channel", at keeping people amused or bemused.  Designed by the same
people who today design supermarket packaging and magazines and
television, for the same purposes.  A somewhat more interactive
version of the same intellectual and spritual wasteland (with islands
otherwise).

Most newspapers are calculatedly written for a 4th grade reading level
today, a least common denominator and thus very large market.  This is
well documented and verifiable, not just an opinion.  Pages designed
for WebTV will aim lower if anything.  More than a few sentences on a
page will be inconsistent with the viewership.  This *IS* a change
from the old Internet, no matter that some apologists will try to make
it a shameful, elitist thing for us to notice such facts.

"Info providers" will increasingly be large corporations with
employees paid to disseminate the corporate product, rather than
individuals (per the academic model which jump started net culture).
Most of the market will be a relatively small number (proportionately)
of mega websites, with enormous high speed networks of servers.  These
will be very capital intensive, costing millions of dollars and having
largish professional staffs of specialists, much like other mass
media: Televisions stations/networks; major newspapers/chains; major
magazines; the motion picture industry.  Product advertisers, paid
subscriptions, and corporate PR will fund and control most defacto
content, seeing that it's basically not much different than existing
mass media.  They won't expect much info contribution from info
consumers, beyond play-polls [Would you have sex with a stranger for
$1,000,000 as X did in the movie? Yes/No; Current totals 5,236,197
yes/ 3,494,855 no/ 1,298,114 undecided] and marketing demographic
feedback [What's most important to you in a car, pick one:...].

Most WebTV viewers will "surf" on whims and fads, more like channel
surfing than library research.  A mention in the right places could
mean any web site can get its 15 minutes of fame, and be totally
saturated - unless it's one of the big corporate megasites which
specialize in this.  Of course, if it has more than two television-
resolution screens of text, or uses more than 4th grade vocabulary, or
doesn't have snazzy moving Java aplets, it won't hold people's
attentions.

Yes, WebTV will allow "gee whiz" email to Aunt Betty, supplementing
the telephone and written mail.  And later even some real time audio
and low res video!  This will be sorta nice at times, useful; but it
won't truly do much to stay humanly more in touch with Aunt Betty for
most folks, it won't impact our lives as positively as even the
telephone did (ie: there will be a small incremental gain).  Few
people will take the time to learn and practice skillful or heartfelt
communication, instead going for quick cliches and then change the
channel.  (The idea of spending 15 minutes *thinking* about what you
really want to say and how to say it will seem alien, when you could
instead click on an efficient professionally written "greeting card"
slogan (without even buying one of those hard to use alphanumeric
keyboards) and be off to Bay Watch Online or Web Sites of The Rich and
Famous).

Despite this, email is probably the best part of the whole deal, even
if over hyped.  Content-wise, its cultural effect will be slightly
positive or slightly negative or neutral, because most of it will be
contained as private communication, like the telephone (as opposed to
television, which has large cultural impacts).  As mentioned above,
the incrmental "media format" impact will not be as great as the
phone, which had cultural effect via the immediate real-time
human-identifiable-voice connection which mail did not have.  Email is
less radical to the human psyche than the telephone was, and
videophones are only a notch more effective).

Oh, another prediction: personal websites will become the message
doormats, bumperstickers, painted mailboxes, answering machine
messages, and "personalized greeting cards" (ref Target or Kmart) of
the future.  90% will be uncreative "fill in the blank" semi-rote
creations of formulistic mass software.  Very few will actually have
original text beyond captions, interesting insights, personally
created images of merit, or functional things to share (like source
code).  Expect cliche'd clip art of the latest fad toys (cute little
ponies with hair you can comb) and hot celebs.  But nearly everyone
(it will seem) will be able to have one!  (And some will be
wonderful!).

"Look it up on the Web" educational assistance will in many, perhaps
most, cases become another tool for kids to regurgitate rather than
learn.  With relatively little work, they can "write" reports on, say,
dolphins, by typing "dolfins" in a search engine form, click on the
first few sites to find an interesting one, grab text and images from
one or two sites, rephrase the text some (optional), throw in some
fonts and emphasis, and make a report that LOOKS better than most
college students could have in 1985, but without ever thinking or
learning anything.  (Of course, WebTV kids will be at a "disadvantage", 
without a word processor and local hard disk and printer.  They might
have to do more work than cut and paste, and something might even seep
in during the processs.  But I think those will be fixed before long).
As always, of course, it will be *possible* for some to learn a lot,
if they are so motivated.  But it will be easier for most to avoid
real learning.

Online discussion groups, whether Usenet or mailing lists, will be
deluged with folks who don't contribute much.  They will either be
looking for free advice (the internet has been sold as this), or will
be endlessly repeating a small set of trite mass-produced opinions -
the ones that don't get into the newspaper letter columns, not due to
political censorship but due to simple quality control.  I say
"deluged" even tho I expect only a smallish fraction of the WebTV
crowd to attempt to participate - but it's a small portion of a very
large market.

Initially, using conventional modems, there won't be too great an
impact on the bandwidth.  Why should tripling the number of users
expecting unlimited usage for $20/month do more than accelerate the
existing problems?  But that will prove way too slow, because
graphics, sound, movement, animation, and video are required to steal
those eyeballs away from MTV.  Text can come fast, but it's too
boring.  So there will be much movement to implement cable modems and
xDSL (especially ADSL), to give every one of those consumers 1.5-8
Mbps of download channel.  Think what that means: ONE NEIGHBORHOOD
could saturate today's entire backbone, and one city could require the
backbone to expand 100 fold to keep up (not likely to be well funded
by $19.95/month).  Of course, they won't get that kind of bandwidth,
their big pipes will be very jerky and sporadic.  But they will act as
sponges, able to soak up many times a much backbone bandwidth as there
is available.  A low impedance short to ground, datawise.  This will
have real impact, tho it's not clear yet whether we'll go to some form
of volume-based charge, universal access-time charges, or corporate
financing of infrastructure like television (at which time it becomes
"theirs" and serves their purposes).

But note that these folks are largely going to be people who were once
satisfied by a few dozen TV channels, and 50 popular magazines.
Caches are going to work well for this market, as they are faddish and
trendy and not as proportinately intellectually diverse as the former
internet.  (Think of the magazines near the supermarket checkout
stands, rather than the selection at the best newstand in town).  This
will mitigate the effect some, but won't erase the thousandfold
increase in demand (imagine 300 million users worldwide expecting 1-8
mbps each download at peak hours).  The bandwidth crisis will be real,
and it will shift the paradigm as much as the commercialization of
broadcasting or the centralization of ownership of media has changed
those communication channels.  The internet infrastructure of 2005
will be optimized for "broadcast" information from "megasite"
producers to mass consumers who are mostly passive except for "channel
surfing", rather than for information collaboration among relative
peers.  Organizationally it will resemble today's television industry
much more than 1990's internet.  It may even merge into one industry
with television.

And it may "penalize" atypical interests.  "Geraldo Online" is going
to be quick to download, because six other people on your block are
viewing it too, after that reference on TV this evening.  But you may
have to wait for anything non-faddish and uncached to download.

Some will say that WebTV "democratizes" the net, making it more
accessible and representative, empowering more people.  To some degree
it might, for some people.  But the overall thrust is NOT coming from
the grass roots.  This is not a project wherein inner city
neighborhoods gets together than uses the network to organize
politically, to nourish and expand their non-mainstream culture, to
address their real life problems like gangs or jobs.  It's a creation
of Phillips and Sony and RCA and Disney and Time and Reuters and
NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN and Paramount and all the same extremely wealthy and
powerful commercial portions of our society that have dominated and
controlled the mainstream media.  They will tout isolated examples of
good deeds in things like inner cities, but those are PR; the core of
this change in direction is based on the exact same agendas and
worldviews that control TV or People magazine (or major sports teams).
Has the ubiquity of CocaCola ads or the popularity of Cheers
democratized the world?

The best I can hope for now is to keep alive some "commercially
unviable" niches of intelligent and thoughtful discussion, peer
creativity, collaborative information exchange, and free and diverse
thought that will never show up significantly on CBS's broadcasts or
AT&T's web sites.  Perhaps some of the magic of the old internet can
survive in these niches, or even expand and flourish.  We can be an
insignificant (volume wise) "rider" on the tidal wave of the corporate
media information model.  We can be a net within a net, where one can
find thoughtful and meaningful words and concepts that don't fit the
MTV or WebTV "good design" guidelines.  We can use a tenth grade
vocabulary :) We can discuss grey and multi-hued issues.  We can joke
and learn about each other (in some niches) as humans, outside of only
professional roles.  We can balance give and take.  Things like the
old practice of asking for information, and then spending the time to
organize and post a summary of responses.  Writing FAQ-like documents.
Ask for help in a respectful way, rather than thinking our $19.95
bought us a bunch of consultants just as it bought us entertaining
eyecandy professional web sites from Disneycorp and GM.

I call this new/old "guerilla internet" subnet the CoyoteNet (not
trademarked :-) in honor of the coyotes which unlike bears and wolves
and ferrets, have managed to live amidst "development", even
development which ravishes the formerly fertile landscape.

Don't be surprised to see web sites which deliberately seek to be
unattractive to WebTV.  I expect to see somebody write an FAQ on "how
NOT to optimize for WebTV".  As in "how not to compromise your
content" or even "how to bore the couch potatos so they'll channel
surf elsewhere".  Rather than "how to make it impossible for them to
read if they are serious".  I would like to have an open door for
those who truly want more than the commercial pablum, even if their
tool is WebTV.

I hope there will still be paths of access for the black kid on the
South Side of Chicago, who can't afford a network computer but whose
family does have WebTV, and who is actually trying to learn,
self-educate, and enculturate into an intellectually vibrant
subculture absent at home or in the public schools.  But it's OK with
me if they have to learn to read and conceptually integrate more than
3 short paragraphs before jumping to another subject, in order to get
into this niche.

The "elitism" I represent is about expecting people to develop their
potentials, and rewarding same, rather than sinking to the lowest
common denominator.  It's about relatively equal opportunity (within
an imperfect world), but not guaranteed equal outcomes; effort does
count.  Trying to write well, thinking before replying, critically
examining alternatives - there should remain a niche on the internet
where these continue to be more valued than buying a new car because
it's advertized as somehow making you more potent.

And yes, the old internet (and usenet/uucpnet) had problems too.
There was never a perfect golden age.  But even in imperfection, it
had value, and values, atypical of the mainstream culture.  These are
in great danger of being lost in the commercial repaving of the
internet wildlands.  I don't mean to preserve a static remnant as a
museum piece, but to keep alive a dynamic and still evolving
subcultural descendant, hopefully able to reach new heights.

Here's the promised soundbite:

The internet is the latest orange grove to be turned into (almost)
indistinguishable suburbs modeled on those left by mass TV, radio,
magazines and newspapers.  WebTV is the bulldozers and contract
assemblers putting up more ticky tacky boxes on the hillside.  Rather
than the internet culture following the path of the Amazon tribe whose
land has been "developed", let's think more like the coyote, and
co-exist in the "unprofitable" margins.

     Zhahai  (a gardener of memes)

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:17:14 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Internet/TV Convergence
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


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 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:50:55 -0800 (PST)
 From: Phil Agre <pagre@weber.ucsd.edu>
 Subject: Internet/TV convergence

[Dan Schiller has been saying for a long time now that the emerging
Internet business model is basically television.  The evidence over
the last six weeks is definitely heading in his direction.  Here is
his analysis.]

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11 December 1996

Dear Phil:

Your missive, to the effect that PCs and television were on a
converging course, seems to me to open up a wide and important set of
issues.  Why is this convergence - or collision - happening?  What
does it mean to transfer television practices to this new context?
How far can this transfer develop; may the process of convergence
become generalized as a developing model for the net?  Here are some
comments.


Internet Television:  Net Makeover?

By Dan Schiller
Professor of Communication
University of California, San Diego
December 1996


Television and the Internet are pressing against one another, in a
trend that raises vitally important issues.  Why is this convergence -
or collision - occurring?  What does it mean to project contemporary
television practices onto cyberspace?  Might the process of
convergence become generalized as a model for the Web's further
evolution; how far can it go?  Let's map some of the abundant recent
evidence.

1.  Convergence is real

	Television Systems: PC and TV manufacturers each seek enlarged
markets.  TVs that can stand in as Internet terminals, and PCs that
can accept television signals are, in turn, obvious extensions of
current consumer electronics markets.  Similarly, U.S. computer
software companies and broadcast television networks, program
companies, and stations have commenced to jockey for competitive
advantage as their industries merge.  Nowhere has this internecine
disagreement come through more forcefully than in the process of
developing technical standards for digital TVs.  Negotiators for
computer companies recently staged an upset victory in the
standards-making contest, setting the stage for what one analyst calls
"a titanic battle for the nation's living rooms" between established
set makers and personal computer manufacturers, "both of which want to
build the digital device that will display these images."1 In truth,
this epic contest will be even broader, in part because a stable
Internet infrastructure has yet to materialize.

Strategic alliances have been quick to proliferate.  Microsoft and
DirecTV - itself a subsidiary of GM's Hughes Corporation, with
minority participation by AT&T - have inaugurated DirecPC, utilizing a
satellite-delivery system to furnish television over a PC for a
monthly subscription fee akin to that charged by cable television
system operators.2 Philips Magnavox and, separately, Sony, are
marketing "Web TV" set-top boxes, while Time-Warner, like other giant
cable system operators, is contracting with suppliers for similar
equipment, to work with emerging systems that will beam TV-like
Internet channels to suitably equipped television sets.3

	Network Services and the ongoing initiative to transform the
Web into a "push" rather than a "pull" medium: The Interpublic Group,
a major advertising holding company, has partnered with Ifusion Com,
to create an Internet broadcasting system named Arrive.  Akin to
analogous services offered by Pointcast, Backweb Technologies and
Intermind, Arrive will deliver customized information, including
advertising, directly to users' screens whenever their computers are
idle.  The result, writes one observer, is to relieve users of "the
need to search through the overwhelming amounts of data available" -
because preselected sources of information are brought to users
automatically.4 In such a context, the ability to control the viewer's
start-up screen acquires newly decisive importance.

Both Netscape and Microsoft have targeted the startup screen as what
one writer calls a "platform[] for receiving Internet broadcasts."5
Microsoft's entry will utilize its Windows operating system software
to create "Active Desktop" - a TV-like receiver that is already allied
with a leading Internet broadcaster.  One of Active Desktop's
"premier" or default channels will be supplied by PointCast, whose
on-line network already reaches an estimated 1.7 million subscribers
with broadcast feeds of news and advertising.6 TheWall Street Journal
tellingly refers to Microsoft's overall initiative, as "an important
experiment in audience-building," and one with special appeal "to new
consumers that haven't been moved yet to go on- line."7 (More
momentarily on who these "new consumers" might be, and on how they
relate to emerging "push" services.)

Another important initiative arrived last summer, when Intel, the
leading semiconductor manufacturer, rolled out Intercast, a system
allowing Pentium processor-equipped computers to receive video and
audio signals.  Intercast permits concurrent Web surfing and TV
viewing, and sends out specially created content that complements or
ties back into TV shows.  The venture depends on a growing list of
major broadcast programmers, including GE's TV network NBC, Time-
Warner's CNN, Viacom's MTV and, interestingly, Boston public
broadcasting station WGBH.8

And then there is America Online's recent hire of Bob Pittman, the
wunderkind who launched MTV fifteen years ago, "to polish the surface
of the first break-out brand in cyberspace."9 AOL's churning
subscriber base of 7 million may not look like much next to the tens
of millions of net surfers, but perhaps that's not the relevant
comparison.  It's certainly a formidable basis on which to compete
against the ratings numbers garnered by any of the existing cable
networks.  Perhaps AOL can identify means of symbiotically migrating
audiences from and to TV.  Oprah Winfrey, for example - whose
television talkshow reaches a daily audience of some 15 million
viewers - has successfully carried a portion of her on-air bookclub
audience to her AOL program service.10 ESPN's popular Web-based
Sportszone comprises another such linkage between the two media.

	Audience measurement infrastructure: Feverish discussion is
underway of how best to track the net surfers' attention - especially
to commercial messages.11 Nielsen, the longtime television ratings
service, is actively developing audience measurement technique on the
Web, where it already faces competition.  DoubleClick, for example,
comprises a network service for subscribing Web sites and advertisers;
by monitoring usage it builds user profiles, on the basis of which it
instantaneously uploads customized ads.  Since March, 1996,
DoubleClick has identified the preferences of some 10 million Web
surfers, with a reported 100,000 more profiles flowing in each day.  A
new trade association, the Internet Advertising Bureau, helps ensure
that the sponsors who are, according to one writer, "trying to turn
the once-eclectic Web into the ultimate 24-hour marketing machine," do
not lack for an institutional voice.12

	Programming: "[A]dvertisers," writes Joan Voight, a reporter
for AdWeek, "want to work hand in hand with publishers to coproduce
the material that packs Web pages."  ParentTime, a Web site that is a
joint venture between Procter & Gamble and Time Warner, provides
parents with interactive advice and promotes Time Warner magazines
such as Parenting and Sports Illustrated for Kids.  P&G has, in
addition nine brand-specific Web sites, with dozens of others waiting
in the wings; but ParentTime is a collaborative effort by the world's
leading advertiser and a megamedia corporate ally to experiment with
interactive program forms specifically targeted at consumer
advertisers' most-needed audience: women.13

At this juncture, we return to the question of who the new targets of
internet broadcasting will likely be, for the effort by advertisers to
increase women's use of the net has indeed been at once widespread and
concerted.  Ed Meyer, then CEO of Grey Advertising, was asked in March
of 1995 what "key issues" had to be explored with regard to new media.
He responded: "One of the biggest issues is how we get women to use
new-media applications and embrace these new technologies.  With 70%
of traditional advertising directed to women, it's vital to the
success of new-media opportunities to appeal to and be used by
women."14 Women's use of the Internet has duly increased, at least in
the U.S.; women accounted for less than 10% of Internet users a few
years ago but, according to one tally, totaled nearly one-third by
summer 1996.15 It's significant, in this context, that one of
Microsoft's six introductory TV-like channels is a magazine for women
called UnderWire.16

Even beyond these new channels, the horizon of on-line network
television is shrinking toward experiences that give Web users
incentive to interact under the sign of one or another brand.
Sponsored chatrooms, for example, encourage users to exchange personal
messages that contextualize their use of particular commodities -
make-up, say, or malt liquor - within the span of everyday social
interaction.  Thus is an emergent cultural practice reconsecrated to
consumption, the most hallowed ground we have.  Interactive genres of
different kinds, from drama to news to games, seem certain as well to
evolve further, under the watchful eye of sponsors who can lard them
in all sorts of creative ways with product mentions and
demonstrations.

On one side, then, "push" services threaten to reduce use of the net
to a more passive television-type experience.  On the other side,
however, there are ongoing reformulations of Web experience that put a
premium on forms of active engagement - but mainly insofar as users'
involvement can be rechanneled on terms established by sponsorship.

There is little doubt that TVs and PCs are converging, and that a
series of unfolding applications are beginning to recast the Web.
What then are the implications of these developments?

2.  Market Power and Commercial Sponsorship

It is not "television" that is converging with cyberspace, of course,
but a historically specific set of practices that we can more properly
gloss as "commercial networked television."  Commercial networked
television is hardly new.  It's crucial to stress that, long before
the Internet, commercial networked television had already acquired the
defining institutional identity that now bulks large in its
convergence with the Web.  Each of the two adjectives hints at a
crucial feature.  First has been the centralization of television
content, or programming.  This centralization should be distinguished
from the considerable geographical concentration in programming and
related industries that it encouraged.  Centralization of programming
via networking meant that large producers and distributors, rather
than local or nonprofit broadcasters, were enabled to gain market
power sufficient to dominate the larger television industry.
(Thousands of U.S. musicians and untold other performers, by
comparison, became casualties, as networks and stations successfully
pushed to utilize recordings in preference to more expensive and
unreliable live performances.

Microsoft is putting $400 million annually into developing Web
content, with no expectation of turning a profit for at least three
more years.  That's around an order of magnitude above the annual
investment that was required by Rupert Murdoch's Fox Broadcasting
network [or, for that matter, by Gannett's newspaper, USA Today],
before each began to pay off.  And corporations as a whole are
estimated to have spent a couple of billions of dollars in developing
Web pages.  This scale of expenditure makes it all but certain that
one or another megamedia company will eventually figure out how to
innovate profitable cyberspace genres.  But the question of how far
such companies will be able to dominate the market for Web- based
experiences is a larger and more complex one.

The key goal of Webcasters, on current evidence, is to concentrate and
stabilize relations between program services and audiences.  Under
active exploration in realizing this goal, and therewith in claiming
additional market power, are "push" services, exclusive licensing
agreements, a star system, blockbuster programming investments, and
operating system software.  But it must never be forgotten that this
multifaceted attempt to stabilize the relation between programming and
audience is itself largely a function of the second abiding aspect of
a commercial networked model - its embedded reliance on advertiser
sponsorship.  The Wall Street Journal is perfectly correct to reduce
this sprawling hubbub of business activity to the following headline:
"How Net Is Becoming More Like Television To Draw Advertisers."  The
explosive growth of Internet broadcasting is tantamount to an
admission that advertisers have succeeded in bending the Web to their
particular social purposes.

TV is the world's most effective selling tool.  Simplifying only
somewhat, it was because of its ability to accommodate live-action
demonstration, over and above identification and endorsement of
products and product applications, that TV succeeded radio as the
foremost advertising medium.  Advertisers are not yet confident that
the Web portends an equally decisive new stage in the ongoing
evolution of the sales effort - but they are certain that they cannot
afford to overlook that possibility.

So much at least we may take from the celebrated address, already two
and a half years ago, by Ed Artzt, then CEO of Procter and Gamble.
Before the American Association of Advertising Agencies, Artzt
hectored his audience to rouse itself from its slumbers, and to "seize
technology in [its] teeth" to ensure access for commercial sponsors to
new media.17 Consider how far the debate has traveled - and
metamorphosized - since then.

Today it is no longer a question of whether advertising and marketing
will move on the net.  Now, rather, the issue has become how to make
the pioneering forms of commercial representation - banner ads and
corporate home pages - succeed more efficiently, or give up pride of
place to "new and improved" advertising practices.  Hunter Madsen,
vice president for commercial strategy at Hotwired, makes a strong
case for unremitting experimentation, toward less- standardized
banners or "brand modules," and direct interpenetration of commercial
and editorial matter ["content cobranding"].18 The generic forms of
advertiser sponsorship and programming on the Web, surely, are nowhere
near stabilization.

But neither is their ultimate form the chief issue.  Advertisers have 
proclaimed the necessity of colonizing cyberspace, and of making it 
dependent on their ability to provide funding.  Does anyone still 
truly think that they will realize the folly of this ambition, and 
abandon the net?  If advertisers ever recognized that the "culture" of 
the net was unreceptive, that time is long gone.  They will try, and 
try again, until ... 

3.  Implications

Let's distinguish two levels of analysis.  The first is, what does
advertiser sponsorship do to the media that become dependent on it?
The second is, to what extent will the net come to be advertiser
supported?

There is plenty of evidence that advertiser sponsorship profoundly
affects individual media practices, content, and relationships with
audiences.  It is not mainly a matter of poor ethics or lapsed
standards, but of a systematic overall orientation.  Advertisers want
media to deliver audiences to them, in predictable quantities and at
standard and comparably efficient costs.  These audiences, moreover,
need to be of ascertained composition and "quality," in the sense that
advertisers desire to purchase access to a guranteed number of women
ages 18-49, or men aged 25-54.  (Of course audience sales is often
much more nuanced and targeted than this.)  I have already underlined
that the rollout of "push" services instantiates an effort to recreate
an old necessity in new form: access to stable - measurable and
predictable - audiences for advertisements.

When advertisers foot an appreciable proportion of overall media
costs, they come to dominate that medium's workaday self-
consciousness, which in turn places new pressures and limits upon that
medium's relationship with its audience.  It is not only a matter of
"censorship" to suit the idiosyncracies of particular sponsors (though
neither should censorship of this kind be gainsaid).  It's also, and
more substantively, a question of emphasis on particular program
forms, and the priorities that they express - particular creative
practices rather than others.  The practices that saturate our
culture, and that are now being transferred wholesale to the net, are
market-driven in intent and in effect.  That doesn't mean they cannot
sometimes eventuate in true artistry, but rather that emerging forms
of art on the net are themselves being placed in harness to a narrow
and exclusionary social purpose: selling.19

How far can this convergence go?  Of this we can hardly be confident.
The trail is already littered with the effects of poor strategic
judgments and corporate missteps.  Consider only the just-announced
decision by Pacific Telesis, Bell Atlantic and Nynex that their
venture into television production, TeleTV, will disband.  Or the
trade journal Variety's recent pronouncement: that "convergence"
itself is ceasing to be this season's buzzword in Hollywood.  Surely
there will be additional failures.  Nobody can be certain that any
particular venture will succeed, let alone that it will transform the
net.

But that doesn't mean the whole thing is an open question.  Most
significant, it seems to me, is that the outcome itself is being left
essentially to "market forces," that is, to the very business
behemoths whose actions I have briefly assayed.  If present trends are
not interrupted, the extent to which a variant of commercial network
television comes to prevail on the Web will be very largely determined
by profitseeking companies.  Other social interests, prospecting for
alternative visions of cyberspace, including churches, public-interest
organizations and community groups, educational institutions, musuems,
libraries, and labor unions, will either be marginalized, or else
incorporated - and exploited - by sponsors seeking access to their
members, and perhaps a patina of legitimacy.

The debate over the propriety of advertiser-supported radio
broadcasting (the so-called "American system") unfolded through years
of public discussion,20 and drew outbursts of anticommercial concern
from highly placed politicians, church leaders, businesspeople,
educators, and philanthropic organizations.  In contrast, the "debate"
over commercialism in cyberspace has been a nonstarter.  The
established media have been nearly silent; aside from the question of
"spamming" - basically a diversion - scant attention has been accorded
to the grave questions raised by the growing commercial presence on
the net.  In such circumstances, what chance is there of building an
abiding public purpose into the net?

***

In actuality, many people and organizations, a diversity of motive and
ambition continue to be present, as the commercial imperative unfolds
across the Web.  Some participants are unalloyed boosters; some are
alienated cynics - seemingly above the dismal venality and
small-mindedness of it all.  Still others may take pleasure in
successfully smuggling private messages - cybergraffiti - into
sponsored spaces, or in covertly intruding in other ways.  But what of
those more active dissenters, who seek to carry forward on the net the
longstanding oppositional traditions of independent film and video
artistry, and of free thought and association more generally?  We may
place our hopes in them - with our hearts, at least, if not yet with
our heads.


 ---Dan Schiller
    Professor of Communication
    dschille@weber.UCSD.edu

1quote from Mark Lander, "Industries Agree On U.S. Standards For TV Of 
Future," New York Times 26 November 1996: A1, C6; Bryan Gruley, "Television 
and Computer Makers Reach An Accord on Design of Digital-TV Sets," Wall 
Street Journal 26 November 1996: B10; Joel Brinkley, "Defining TV's And 
Computers For a Future of High Definition," New York Times 2 December 1996:  
C1, C11.

2Katherine Stalter, "NBC, Intel link to channel TV to PC," Variety 1-14 July 
1996: 33. 

3Mark Robichaux, "Time Warner Inc. Is Expected to Order Up to $450 Million of 
TV Set-Top Boxes," Wall Street Journal, 10 December 1996: B8.

4Stuart Elliott, "Advertising," New York Times 20 November 1996: C5.

5David Bank, "How Net Is Becoming More Like Television To Draw
Advertisers," Wall Street Journal 13 December 1996: A1, A8.  

6David Bank, "Microsoft Picks On-Line News From PointCast," Wall
Street Journal 12 December 1996: B4.

7Don Clark, "Microsoft's On-Line Service Goes to a TV Format," Wall Street 
Journal 9 Dec 96: B7.

8Amy Dunkin, "PC Meets TV:  The Plot Thickens," Business Week 23 December 
1996: 94-5.  

9Cathy Taylor, "Welcome!  You've Got Bob Pittman," MediaWeek 2 December 
1996: 24-27.

10Deirdre Donahue, "But some wonder if people are really reading," USA Today 
12 December 1996: D1, D2.

11Jane Greenstein, "Advertisers Stell Trying to Get a Line on Net Users," Los 
Angeles Times 2 December 1996: D5. 

12Joan Voight, "Beyond the Banner," Wired December 1996: 196, 204. 

13Jeff Harrington, "P&G's programming push," USA Today 25 November 1996: 12B.

14"InterViews," Advertising Age 13 March 1995, S-26. 

15Andrew Kantor and Michael Neubarth, "Off The Charts:  The Internet 1996," 
Internet World Dec 96: 44-51.

16Don Clark, "Microsoft's On-Line Service Goes to a TV Format," Wall Street 
Journal 9 Dec 96: B7.

17For an illuminating discussion, see Matthew P. McAllister, The 
Commercialization of American Culture.  Sage, 1996.

18Hunter Madsen, "Reclaim the Deadzone," Wired December 1996, 206-220.

19For those wishing to learn more about the role of advertising in television 
itself, check out Erik Barnouw's classic book, The Sponsor.  New York:  Oxford 
University Press, 1978.

20Robert W. McChesney, Telecommunications, Mass Media and Democracy.  
New York:  Oxford University Press, 1993.

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <d.s.lewis@ieee.org>
Subject: Dataquest Survey Blasts Internet Television
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:28:09 -0800
Organization: Strategies & Technologies, Inc. (STI)


I usually have a lot of respect for Dataquest, but they blew it big
time by spewing the results of a recent telephone survey.

As part of Dataquest's new The Digital Consumer program, they surveyed
nearly 7,000 home consumers.  Their conclusion: "The Internet
television in its current form does not have significant market
potential in Dataquest's view," said Van Baker, director and principal
analyst of Dataquest's The Digital Consumer program.

Baker later gives himself an "out" by noting that Internet TV could
be made more enticing.  He sites "push" customization and the delivery of
local content as two ways to expand Internet TV's market potential.
However, their headline reads:  "Dataquest survey shows U.S. households
are turned off by Internet television."  How many will see the headline
and never read Mr. Baker's "exceptions"?

First, WebTV and its cousins from Sega and Bandai need to have more
interactivity.  Also, customization, push technologies, and delivery
of local content _ARE_ real issues.  My response to Mr. Baker is that
he isn't giving the Web TV (including WebTV) clan enough credit.  These
are OBVIOUS limitations, but limitations that are being aggressively
addressed.  An open word (or several) to Mr. Baker: "Open your eyes and
see the possibilities."  Frankly, chastising "Version 1.0" technologies in
this industry is utterly ridiculous.  Vision, Mr. Baker, it takes vision 
to see the future in all its glory.

Second, I'd like to shoot down the survey results with a bit of academic
backing.  Moriarty and Kosnik point out that customer needs that form a
foundation for targeting a market or a segment are difficult to discern,
because potential customers are typically unable to articulate needs they
do not know they have.  (See R.T. Moriarty and T.J. Kosnik, "High-tech
concepts, continuity and change," IEEE Engineering Management Review,
March 1990, pp. 25-35.  BTW, yours truly was the editor-in-chief of EMR
from 1987-1995.)

On a much more basic level, it comes down to the flaws revealed by
Prahalad and Hamel in their McKinsey award-winning papers in Harvard
Business Review.  Remember their ideas on strategic intent, core
competencies (which most people bastardize -- bluntly, "it's a technology,
stupid!") and expeditionary marketing?  Let's focus on the later concept:
Expeditionary marketing.  How about some examples, shall we?

Traditional survey methods revealed that there was no market for:

1) The Sony Walkman,
2) NutraSweet, and
3) CT scanners

And, believe me, there are plenty more examples.

What gets under my skin is that most traditional market research is
near worthless when applied to radical innovations.  But the media
touts the research as Gospel.

Dataquest and the other leading market research firms should stick to
what they do best: Simple extrapolation.  If they choose to enter the
realm of radical innovations, they need to implement a whole new set
of tools.  They need to take their telephone surveys and put them in
the circular file; frankly, that's all they're worth!

To review the Dataquest release, go to:  
http://stonewall.dataquest.com:80/irc/press/ir-n9652.html

For the marketing perspective, see the following monographs:

Factors that impact consumer adoption of innovative technological services
  over time: The case of the Internet by Roy Henrichs (1995)

Marketing high technology: An analysis of organizational buyer and seller
  behavior in the expert systems industry by W.A. Rooks, Jr. (1991)

Using market diffusion models for developing and assessing marketing
  strategies by Namwoon Kim (1993)

Technological generations and the spread of the social definition of new
  technologies by R.S. Larsen (1993)

Predicting the future: Assessing forecasts and predictions for residential
  broadband services by Sandy Kyrish (1993)

Substitutability and complementarity in the diffusion of multiple electronic
  communication media: An evolutionary approach by L.L. Soe (1994)

Evaluative criteria and user acceptance of end user information technology:
  A study of end-user cognitive and normative pre-adoption beliefs by
  E. Karahanna (1993)

Predictive insights through analogical reasoning by H. Lee (1993)

Understanding products and markets for radical innovations by Gary Lynn
  (1993)

Lead user model for analysis of new product developments in the computer
  industry by M.G. Angur (1991)

Strategies for new products in fast changing high technology markets by
  C.S. Kim (1991)

Anyone want to debate this further?  I'm ready!  :-)

GO WebTV!!!


David Scott Lewis
thewebguy@acm.org
Strategies & Technologies, an Internet marketing consultancy

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:51:17 -0600
From: Igor Sviridov <sia@nest.org>
Subject: Re: WebTV Upgrade Released
Organization: J. River, Inc.


In article <telecom16.662.13@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, David Scott Lewis
<thewebguy@acm.org> wrote:

> WebTV just implemented an upgrade that subscribers should know about.

[skipped]

Actually, frames ARE there and DO work :-) Other nice enhancements are
multimedia mail, audio control panel with pause/start/stop, phone
number display when dialing, screen saver :) and scheduled mail check
(unit will be ON, though TV may be off).  SSL still not implemented
:-( so sfnb.com customers like me still can't use WebTV for banking
;-).  I eagerly wait for SSL, cookies and telnet (well, last may be
tough). Other nice extension would be HTML editor and Web hosting
service from WebTV - even WebTV customers will be creative ;-)


 --igor
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
      http://www.dejanews.com/     Search, Read, Post to Usenet

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 17:52:00 EST
From: James E Bellaire <bellaire@tk.com>
Subject: Re: WebTV Upgrade Released


David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org> writes:

> WebTV just implemented an upgrade that subscribers should know about.

> First, RealAudio has been added.  That's one step in the right
> direction.  I hope support for Shockwave, PDF, QuickTime, QuickTimeVR,
> and frames aren't too far behind.  BTW, until this Web spoofing stuff
> can be resolved, WebTV should stay away from adding support for
> JavaScript or ActiveX.

What web spoofing stuff?  Is there some kind of security hole in JavaScript
that I have missed?  (The last one I heard about was a few months back
and was with a particular browser that has been upgraded since.  That
problem was related to machines behind firewalls running software to
discover break-in points or relay information to machines outside the
firewall.  That would not affect most WebTV people, since they are on
ISPs not corporate or educational dialups.)

By the way:

According to WebTV there is no 'local' dialup for my town of 20,000 in
Indiana.  (I'm 317-677, soon to be 765-677.)  The non-local dialups
given are in Ohio (513-291 and 513-640 - not the 317-638 and 317-977
Indianapolis numbers) A town 20 miles away (317-457) is given two
other numbers, 513-868 and 513-640.  Not sure why there would be a
difference there ...

By the way, BOTH 513-291 and 513-640 are, as of last September 28th,
937-291 and 937-640.  Permissive is still in effect.  (513-868 is
remaining in 513.)

Glad I subscribe to one of the three local ISPs!  WebTV would be too
expensive in this area.


James E. Bellaire                                       bellaire@tk.com
Webpage Available 23.5 Hrs a Day!!!    http://www.iquest.net/~bellaire/

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <d.s.lewis@ieee.org>
Subject: WebTV Upgrade Released Friday
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:01:52 -0800
Organization: Strategies & Technologies, Inc. (STI)


WebTV just implemented an upgrade that subscribers should know about.

First, RealAudio has been added.  That's one step in the right
direction.  I hope support for Shockwave, PDF, QuickTime, QuickTimeVR,
and frames isn't too far behind.  BTW, until this Web spoofing stuff
can be resolved, WebTV should stay away from adding support for
JavaScript or ActiveX.

Second, they've added background music.  The music seems to repeat after
an hour or so, but it's pretty good.  What they need to do is to support
viewer selection of a musical genre.  Personally, I like The Music of
Cyberspace series.

Third, they've made it possible to switch users without logging off and
logging on again.

There were a few other additions, such as checking for e-mail even when
the unit is off, but the above are the main upgrade features.

BTW, it was totally painless to add the upgrades.  It took about 10
minutes, but it was a simple click on the remote control.  That's it!

WebTV, albeit a consumer product, is the best example of why NCs are
needed:  Ease of maintenance!  And WebTV does NOT have goofy functions, 
like logging off by hitting the "Start" button (boy, isn't that intuitive!).

For your enjoyment, here are four useful URLs (each is an article):

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,6043,00.html

http://www.packet.com/schrage/today.html
  (this one, because it ends with "today.html" may not last for long!)

http://techweb.cmp.com:80/ng/nov96/fcompare.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/web/docsroot/library/cyber/techcol/1202techcol.html

For a pointer on the Web TV phenomena (including WebTV, and the systems from
  Sega and Bandai), go to:

http://users.visi.net/~cwt/tv-inet.html


David Scott Lewis
thewebguy@acm.org

------------------------------

From: jfmezei <nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:40:45 -0500
Organization: SPC
Reply-To: nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca


Is WEBtv just a box you can connect to any TV set , or is it a
combination of compatible CPU and monitor?

Also, many have been impressed with the quality of the text. Could
this be because the image is not "broadcast" but directly fed into the
TV and that the monitor may in fact have a greater resolution than the
broadcast NTSC standard?

------------------------------

From: beck@slidell.com (Jeff Becklehimer)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 16 Dec 1996 23:51:22 GMT
Organization: slidell.com inc, Slidell Louisiana


Phil Leonard (pleonard@cybercom.net) wrote:

> In article ID <telecom16.658.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, beck@slidell.com
> (Jeff Becklehimer) writes:

>> Just curious, does this violate copyright laws? Also, when you say an
>> image is "too detailed" does this mean you also resize or reduce the
>> number of colors of the images to make them fit on the screen?

> If they ARE violating any copyright laws then everyone of us who cache
> images we view on the Internet, are, as well. I know you can't easily
> see this with Netscape, but Internet Explorer shows you every image
> you ever looked at, until the cache is full and pushes the last image
> out to make room for the fresh ones.

This is true but what I was referring to is the fact that their proxy
server modifies the image and then redistributes it. This is not a
temporary copy used for viewing. I guess my question should have been
"Is the proxy serving a derivative work or just a copy?"


Jeff Becklehimer
slidell.com, inc.

------------------------------

From: travisd@saltmine.radix.net (Travis Dixon)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 17 Dec 1996 01:39:39 GMT
Organization: RadixNet Internet Services


JP White (ffv.aerotech@ffvaerotech.com) wrote:

> has a phone line. It's early days, give them a chance!  Expect to see
> a higher monthly rate when the cable modem does appear as an option. I
> doubt they'll give away the extra bandwidth, though it would be real
> nice if they did!

I would imagine that the cost for extra bandwidth would be evened out
by not having to provide a dial-up line for every user - just a POP at
the CableCo's headend. Besides, just because they're on Cable modems
doesn't mean that they're going to push more bits down the line.


 --travis

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:34:48 -0500
From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@bbn.com>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story


Andy McFadden writes,

> We occasionally find minor errors in the CCMI database or in the way
> we use it, and like to get them resolved as quickly as possible.

The troubles are severalfold.  The CCMI database is as good as you can
get in today's market, but that doesn't make it perfect.  CCMI has to
make compromises too.  Local calling tariffs are not all "of a mold";
the way they work in different areas can be quite variable.  CCMI just
takes a couple of good estimates which work in most places, but not
always for everyone.

> We list expensive local calls (e.g. $0.25 flat rate per call) as being
> non-local, which may be what you're seeing.  Again, the goal is to
> avoid causing any surprises for the customer.  Most of them don't care
> whether the bill comes from AT&T or the BOC, they're just concerned
> about what the calls cost.

> We're using the actual tariff data from CCMI.  I did some tests on a few
> phone bills and they were dead on.

But whose phone bills?  Nowadays there is competition for long distance,
with variout discount plans, and local rates may have options galore too.

> ...There are two problems with putting a bunch
> of POP numbers on the screen.  First and foremost, it's fine for
> technical folks but fairly lame for the bulk of the population who
> want to plug it in and then just not worry about it.  The whole "it
> just works" concept requires hiding as much of the internal workings
> from the mass-market consumer as possible, without subjecting them to
> any nasty surprises.  

But it does have nasty surprises.  The CCMI database is great in those
places where calls are "toll" or "local", period.  That used to be the
norm in most places, and still applies in many.  But what about, say,
Boston, where there are something like 8 valid "local" residence tariff 
options, with different radii?  (Measured, contiguous, suburban,
metropolitan, circle, measured-circle, LATA-wide, Bay State East, just
in case anyone wonders, and I may be missing one or more.)

The WebTV application gave me two numbers for Needham, MA.  The
"local" one was Waltham, the "toll" one was Boston.  That's a good
approximation.  BUT Needham is not *contiguous* to either, or to any
of their numbers.  Under the NYNEX tariff, the basic residence "flat
rate" package ($16/mo) is "contiguous" only. Other exchanges within an
8 mile radius are charged at Zone 1 Measured rates (1.6 cents/minute);
"local" beyond 8 miles is charged at Zone 2 (5.5 cents/minute.  Zone
rates have *no* off-peak discounts, so night/weekend toll calls, at
3.6c/minute, are cheaper than zone 2 local!)  A web junkie in Needham
would be better off with Suburban service (about $25) calling Waltham,
or Metropolitan (around $30) also calling Boston.

Therefore a "contiguous" user in Needham would be presented with no
"free" calls, but the zone 1 is correctly positioned better than zone 2.

But now let's move up the road to Belmont.  The WebTV application
shows two "local" numbers, but the Boston number shows first, before
the Waltham number. Both are Zone 1, but Belmont is contiguous to
Waltham, not Boston!  WebTV would miss the free call at any opportunity
to make a Zone 1 metered call.

Humans can figure this out.  Wetware isn't perfect but it is trainable.

Getting the local numbers right is a challenge for ISPs.  I've looked
at, for instance, UUNET's on-line list of dial POPs.  They have some
exchange names wrong, so if you don't research the actual whereabouts
of the prefix, you'll sometimes get a toll or unwanted zone charge.
For instance, they list a "Sherman Oaks" CA number which is really in
Canoga Park, several miles to the west (overlapping but different
calling radius).  They're not the only ones with similar errors.


Fred R. Goldstein      fgoldstein@bbn.com  
BBN Corp.              Cambridge MA  USA    +1 617 873 3850

------------------------------

From: Bob Brown <rbrown@emi.net>
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story (a Realworld Experience)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:36:00 -0500
Organization: The EmiNet Domain (407)731-0222
Reply-To: rbrown@emi.net


Andy,

I saw your post on comp.dcom.telecom.  This is an interesting thread
because it homes in on the only problem I see with Webtv and that is the
long distance charges in some areas.  I am the Director of Information
Technology at my company and spend way too many hours on the web.  My
parents are not computer literate at all and are not good candidates to
purchase a computer to use to connect to a local ISP.  Your product is
the perfect thing for them.  I actually find myself using it as much or
more than my PC.  

I just wanted to share the experience I just had calling their local
phone provider and A T & T since it might give you some insight into
what people are dealing with.  My mom and dad live in area code 803 in
exchange 478.  So I called their local company, Farmers Tel.  They have
no calling plan to give my parents a break.  They are actually kind of
high.  I should say that they were very nice and gave me AT&T's number.

This is where it gets interesting.  Instead of just saying that I was
looking for a calling plan to reduce the charges on a frequently called
number I made the mistake of mentioning the internet and Webtv.  So they
politely transferred me to AT&T's Worldnet service, their internet
service provider group.  When I explained to this person what I was
trying to find out and mentioned WebTv they politely transfered me to
the Direct Satellite TV group in AT&T.  

Now I am kind of bummed out over the fact that my mom and dad will
probably be soured on the internet deal because they are very frugal
and will not happily pay a lot of long distance charges.  But the real
reason that I am writing this to you is to share the experience that a
lot of non-techie people are going to run into when they try to use
your beautifully designed product and service.  I'm hoping that you
are agressively pursuing a relationship with some major ISP's to
provide toll free service in the areas that still remain isolated.

Thanks for reading this if you got this far.  I don't know about you
but I sure feel better now. Oh, and if anyone can figure out who I can
call at AT&T to find out about a calling plan for mom and dad please
let me know.


Robert T. Brown III  (Bob)     robert.brown@sfwmd.gov (at work)
West Palm Beach, Florida               rbrown@emi.net (at home)
26 40 32 NORTH  80 05 37 WEST        http://www.emi.net/~rbrown

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From: bwismer@msmail3.HAC.COM
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:33:10 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company


I've had the Philips box for over a month now and in so far I'm happy
with it. The newest download last week which audio is on in the
backgroud during surf'n sessions. Problem when you call-up your own
selection of radio or cd's from the list they do not play. So WEBTV
has some more debuging problems? Or is it a marketing strategy for
more money?

------------------------------

From: bwismer@msmail3.HAC.COM
Subject: Re: WebTV Musings: A User's Perspective
Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:40:17 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company


I'm going through printer withdrawl with my WEBTV. So I forward or
send my email stuff to my office to print or spell check etc. but when
WEBTV matures it will be a handy affordable toy instead of paying a
couple of grand for an obsolete computer.

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From: igeldard@capital.demon.co.uk (Ian Geldard)
Subject: Echelon: The Global Surveillance System
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:37:54 GMT


EXPOSING THE GLOBAL SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM 
by Nicky Hager

------ The article as it appears in hard copy in the magazine also includes
the following sidebars: --"NSA'S BUSINESS PLAN: GLOBAL ACCESS" by Duncan
Campbell --GREENPEACE WARRIOR: WHY NO WARNING? and --NZ's PM Kept in the
Dark by Nicky Hager

********Hager's book "secret Power" is available from CAQ for $33.*******
 -----------
[See end]

IN THE LATE 1980S, IN A DECISION IT PROBABLY REGRETS, THE US PROMPTED
NEW ZEALAND TO JOIN A NEW AND HIGHLY SECRET GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE
SYSTEM. HAGER'S INVESTIGATION INTO IT AND HIS DISCOVERY OF THE ECHELON
DICTIONARY HAS REVEALED ONE OF THE WORLD'S BIGGEST, MOST CLOSELY HELD
INTELLIGENCE PROJECTS. THE SYSTEM ALLOWS SPY AGENCIES TO MONITOR MOST
OF THE WORLD'S TELEPHONE, E-MAIL, AND TELEX COMMUNICATIONS.

For 40 years, New Zealand's largest intelligence agency, the
Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) the nation's
equivalent of the US National Security Agency (NSA) had been helping
its Western allies to spy on countries throughout the Pacific region,
without the knowledge of the New Zealand public or many of its highest
elected officials. What the NSA did not know is that by the late
1980s, various intelligence staff had decided these activities had
been too secret for too long, and were providing me with interviews
and documents exposing New Zealand's intelligence activities. Eventually,
more than 50 people who work or have worked in intelligence and
related fields agreed to be interviewed.

The activities they described made it possible to document, from the
South Pacific, some alliance-wide systems and projects which have been
kept secret elsewhere. Of these, by far the most important is ECHELON.

Designed and coordinated by NSA, the ECHELON system is used to
intercept ordinary e-mail, fax, telex, and telephone communications
carried over the world's telecommunications networks. Unlike many of
the electronic spy systems developed during the Cold War, ECHELON is
designed primarily for non-military targets: governments, organizations, 
businesses, and individuals in virtually every country. It potentially
affects every person communicating between (and sometimes within)
countries anywhere in the world.

It is, of course, not a new idea that intelligence organizations tap
into e-mail and other public telecommunications networks. What was new
in the material leaked by the New Zealand intelligence staff was
precise information on where the spying is done, how the system works,
its capabilities and shortcomings, and many details such as the
codenames.

The ECHELON system is not designed to eavesdrop on a particular
individual's e-mail or fax link. Rather, the system works by
indiscriminately intercepting very large quantities of communications
and using computers to identify and extract messages of interest from
the mass of unwanted ones. A chain of secret interception facilities
has been established around the world to tap into all the major
components of the international telecommunications networks. Some
monitor communications satellites, others land-based communications
networks, and others radio communications. ECHELON links together all
these facilities, providing the US and its allies with the ability to
intercept a large proportion of the communications on the planet.

The computers at each station in the ECHELON network automatically
search through the millions of messages intercepted for ones
containing pre-programmed keywords. Keywords include all the names,
localities, subjects, and so on that might be mentioned. Every word of
every message intercepted at each station gets automatically searched
whether or not a specific telephone number or e-mail address is on the
list.

The thousands of simultaneous messages are read in "real time" as they
pour into the station, hour after hour, day after day, as the computer
finds intelligence needles in telecommunications haystacks.

SOMEONE IS LISTENING:  The computers in stations around the globe are
known, within the network, as the ECHELON Dictionaries. Computers that
can automatically search through traffic for keywords have existed
since at least the 1970s, but the ECHELON system was designed by NSA
to interconnect all these computers and allow the stations to function
as components of an integrated whole. The NSA and GCSB are bound
together under the five-nation UKUSA signals intelligence agreement. 
The other three partners all with equally obscure names are the
Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) in Britain, the
Communications Security Establishment (CSE) in Canada, and the Defense
Signals Directorate (DSD) in Australia.

The alliance, which grew from cooperative efforts during World War II
to intercept radio transmissions, was formalized into the UKUSA
agreement in 1948 and aimed primarily against the USSR. The five UKUSA
agencies are today the largest intelligence organizations in their
respective countries.  With much of the world's business occurring by
fax, e-mail, and phone, spying on these communications receives the
bulk of intelligence resources.  For decades before the introduction
of the ECHELON system, the UKUSA allies did intelligence collection
operations for each other, but each agency usually processed and
analyzed the intercept from its own stations.

Under ECHELON, a particular station's Dictionary computer contains not
only its parent agency's chosen keywords, but also has lists entered
in for other agencies. In New Zealand's satellite interception station
at Waihopai (in the South Island), for example, the computer has
separate search lists for the NSA, GCHQ, DSD, and CSE in addition to
its own. Whenever the Dictionary encounters a message containing one
of the agencies' keywords, it automatically picks it and sends it
directly to the headquarters of the agency concerned. No one in New
Zealand screens, or even sees, the intelligence collected by the New
Zealand station for the foreign agencies.  Thus, the stations of the
junior UKUSA allies function for the NSA no differently than if they
were overtly NSA-run bases located on their soil.

The first component of the ECHELON network are stations specifically
targeted on the international telecommunications satellites (Intelsats) 
used by the telephone companies of most countries. A ring of Intelsats
is positioned around the world, stationary above the equator, each
serving as a relay station for tens of thousands of simultaneous phone
calls, fax, and e-mail. Five UKUSA stations have been established to
intercept the communications carried by the Intelsats.

The British GCHQ station is located at the top of high cliffs above
the sea at Morwenstow in Cornwall. Satellite dishes beside sprawling
operations buildings point toward Intelsats above the Atlantic,
Europe, and, inclined almost to the horizon, the Indian Ocean. An NSA
station at Sugar Grove, located 250 kilometers southwest of
Washington, DC, in the mountains of West Virginia, covers Atlantic
Intelsats transmitting down toward North and South America. Another
NSA station is in Washington State, 200 kilometers southwest of
Seattle, inside the Army's Yakima Firing Center. Its satellite dishes
point out toward the Pacific Intelsats and to the east. *1

The job of intercepting Pacific Intelsat communications that cannot be
intercepted at Yakima went to New Zealand and Australia. Their South
Pacific location helps to ensure global interception. New Zealand
provides the station at Waihopai and Australia supplies the Geraldton
station in West Australia (which targets both Pacific and Indian Ocean
Intelsats). *2

Each of the five stations' Dictionary computers has a codename to
distinguish it from others in the network. The Yakima station, for
instance, located in desert country between the Saddle Mountains and
Rattlesnake Hills, has the COWBOY Dictionary, while the Waihopai
station has the FLINTLOCK Dictionary. These codenames are recorded at
the beginning of every intercepted message, before it is transmitted
around the ECHELON network, allowing analysts to recognize at which
station the interception occurred.

New Zealand intelligence staff has been closely involved with the
NSA's Yakima station since 1981, when NSA pushed the GCSB to
contribute to a project targeting Japanese embassy communications. 
Since then, all five UKUSA agencies have been responsible for
monitoring diplomatic cables from all Japanese posts within the same
segments of the globe they are assigned for general UKUSA monitoring.3
Until New Zealand's integration into ECHELON with the opening of the
Waihopai station in 1989, its share of the Japanese communications was
intercepted at Yakima and sent unprocessed to the GCSB headquarters in
Wellington for decryption, translation, and writing into UKUSA-format
intelligence reports (the NSA provides the codebreaking programs).

"COMMUNICATION" THROUGH SATELLITES The next component of the ECHELON
system intercepts a range of satellite communications not carried by
Intelsat.In addition to the UKUSA stations targeting Intelsat
satellites, there are another five or more stations homing in on
Russian and other regional communications satellites. These stations
are Menwith Hill in northern England; Shoal Bay, outside Darwin in
northern Australia (which targets Indonesian satellites); Leitrim,
just south of Ottawa in Canada (which appears to intercept Latin
American satellites); Bad Aibling in Germany; and Misawa in northern
Japan.

A group of facilities that tap directly into land-based telecommunications 
systems is the final element of the ECHELON system. Besides satellite
and radio, the other main method of transmitting large quantities of
public, business, and government communications is a combination of
water cables under the oceans and microwave networks over land. Heavy
cables, laid across seabeds between countries, account for much of the
world's international communications. After they come out of the water
and join land-based microwave networks they are very vulnerable to
interception. The microwave networks are made up of chains of
microwave towers relaying messages from hilltop to hilltop (always in
line of sight) across the countryside. These networks shunt large
quantities of communications across a country. Interception of them
gives access to international undersea communications (once they
surface) and to international communication trunk lines across
continents. They are also an obvious target for large-scale
interception of domestic communications.

Because the facilities required to intercept radio and satellite
communications use large aerials and dishes that are difficult to hide
for too long, that network is reasonably well documented. But all that
is required to intercept land-based communication networks is a
building situated along the microwave route or a hidden cable running
underground from the legitimate network into some anonymous building,
possibly far removed. Although it sounds technically very difficult,
microwave interception from space by United States spy satellites also
occurs.4 The worldwide network of facilities to intercept these
communications is largely undocumented, and because New Zealand's GCSB
does not participate in this type of interception, my inside sources
could not help either.

NO ONE IS SAFE FROM A MICROWAVE: A 1994 expos of the Canadian UKUSA
agency, Spyworld, co-authored by one of its former staff, Mike Frost,
gave the first insights into how a lot of foreign microwave interception
is done (see p. 18). It described UKUSA "embassy collection" operations, 
where sophisticated receivers and processors are secretly transported
to their countries' overseas embassies in diplomatic bags and used to
monitor various communications in foreign capitals. *5

Since most countries' microwave networks converge on the capital city,
embassy buildings can be an ideal site. Protected by diplomatic privilege,
they allow interception in the heart of the target country. *6 The Canadian
embassy collection was requested by the NSA to fill gaps in the American
and British embassy collection operations, which were still occurring in
many capitals around the world when Frost left the CSE in 1990. Separate
sources in Australia have revealed that the DSD also engages in embassy
collection. *7 On the territory of UKUSA nations, the interception of
land-based telecommunications appears to be done at special secret
intelligence facilities. The US, UK, and Canada are geographically well
placed to intercept the large amounts of the world's communications that
cross their territories.

The only public reference to the Dictionary system anywhere in the world
was in relation to one of these facilities, run by the GCHQ in central
London. In 1991, a former British GCHQ official spoke anonymously to
Granada Television's World in Action about the agency's abuses of power. He
told the program about an anonymous red brick building at 8 Palmer Street
where GCHQ secretly intercepts every telex which passes into, out of, or
through London, feeding them into powerful computers with a program known
as "Dictionary." The operation, he explained, is staffed by carefully
vetted British Telecom people: "It's nothing to do with national security.
It's because it's not legal to take every single telex. And they take
everything: the embassies, all the business deals, even the birthday
greetings, they take everything. They feed it into the Dictionary." *8
What the documentary did not reveal is that Dictionary is not just a
British system; it is UKUSA-wide.

Similarly, British researcher Duncan Campbell has described how the US
Menwith Hill station in Britain taps directly into the British Telecom
microwave network, which has actually been designed with several major
microwave links converging on an isolated tower connected underground
into the station.9

The NSA Menwith Hill station, with 22 satellite terminals and more than 4.9
acres of buildings, is undoubtedly the largest and most powerful in the
UKUSA network. Located in northern England, several thousand kilometers
from the Persian Gulf, it was awarded the NSA's "Station of the Year" prize
for 1991 after its role in the Gulf War. Menwith Hill assists in the
interception of microwave communications in another way as well, by serving
as a ground station for US electronic spy satellites. These intercept
microwave trunk lines and short range communications such as military
radios and walkie talkies. Other ground stations where the satellites'
information is fed into the global network are Pine Gap, run by the CIA
near Alice Springs in central Australia and the Bad Aibling station in
Germany. *10 Among them, the various stations and operations making up the
ECHELON network tap into all the main components of the world's
telecommunications networks. All of them, including a separate network of
stations that intercepts long distance radio communications, have their own
Dictionary computers connected into ECHELON.

In the early 1990s, opponents of the Menwith Hill station obtained large
quantities of internal documents from the facility. Among the papers was a
reference to an NSA computer system called Platform. The integration of all
the UKUSA station computers into ECHELON probably occurred with the
introduction of this system in the early 1980s. James Bamford wrote at that
time about a new worldwide NSA computer network codenamed Platform "which
will tie together 52 separate computer systems used throughout the world.
Focal point, or `host environment,' for the massive network will be the NSA
headquarters at Fort Meade. Among those included in Platform will be the
British SIGINT organization, GCHQ." *11

LOOKING IN THE DICTIONARY: The Dictionary computers are connected via
highly encrypted UKUSA communications that link back to computer data
bases in the five agency headquarters. This is where all the intercepted 
messages selected by the Dictionaries end up. Each morning the specially 
"indoctrinated" signals intelligence analysts in Washington, Ottawa,
Cheltenham, Canberra, and Wellington log on at their computer terminals 
and enter the Dictionary system. After keying in their security
passwords, they reach a directory that lists the different categories
of intercept available in the data bases, each with a four-digit
code. For instance, 1911 might be Japanese diplomatic cables from
Latin America (handled by the Canadian CSE), 3848 might be political
communications from and about Nigeria, and 8182 might be any messages
about distribution of encryption technology.

They select their subject category, get a "search result" showing how
many messages have been caught in the ECHELON net on that subject, and
then the day's work begins. Analysts scroll through screen after
screen of intercepted faxes, e-mail messages, etc. and, whenever a
message appears worth reporting on, they select it from the rest to
work on. If it is not in English, it is translated and then written
into the standard format of intelligence reports produced anywhere
within the UKUSA network either in entirety as a "report," or as a
summary or "gist."

INFORMATION CONTROL: A highly organized system has been developed to
control what is being searched for by each station and who can have
access to it.  This is at the heart of ECHELON operations and works as
follows.

The individual station's Dictionary computers do not simply have a
long list of keywords to search for. And they do not send all the
information into some huge database that participating agencies can
dip into as they wish. It is much more controlled.

The search lists are organized into the same categories, referred to
by the four digit numbers. Each agency decides its own categories
according to its responsibilities for producing intelligence for the
network. For GCSB, this means South Pacific governments, Japanese
diplomatic, Russian Antarctic activities, and so on.

The agency then works out about 10 to 50 keywords for selection in
each category. The keywords include such things as names of people,
ships, organizations, country names, and subject names. They also
include the known telex and fax numbers and Internet addresses of any
individuals, businesses, organizations, and government offices that
are targets. These are generally written as part of the message text
and so are easily recognized by the Dictionary computers.

The agencies also specify combinations of keywords to help sift out
communications of interest. For example, they might search for
diplomatic cables containing both the words "Santiago" and "aid," or
cables containing the word "Santiago" but not "consul" (to avoid the
masses of routine consular communications). It is these sets of words
and numbers (and combinations), under a particular category, that get
placed in the Dictionary computers. (Staff in the five agencies called
Dictionary Managers enter and update the keyword search lists for each
agency.)

The whole system, devised by the NSA, has been adopted completely by
the other agencies. The Dictionary computers search through all the
incoming messages and, whenever they encounter one with any of the
agencies' keywords, they select it. At the same time, the computer
automatically notes technical details such as the time and place of
interception on the piece of intercept so that analysts reading it, in
whichever agency it is going to, know where it came from, and what it
is. Finally, the computer writes the four-digit code (for the category
with the keywords in that message) at the bottom of the message's
text. This is important. It means that when all the intercepted
messages end up together in the database at one of the agency
headquarters, the messages on a particular subject can be located
again. Later, when the analyst using the Dictionary system selects the
four- digit code for the category he or she wants, the computer simply
searches through all the messages in the database for the ones which
have been tagged with that number.

This system is very effective for controlling which agencies can get
what from the global network because each agency only gets the
intelligence out of the ECHELON system from its own numbers. It does
not have any access to the raw intelligence coming out of the system
to the other agencies. For example, although most of the GCSB's
intelligence production is primarily to serve the UKUSA alliance, New
Zealand does not have access to the whole ECHELON network. The access
it does have is strictly controlled. A New Zealand intelligence
officer explained: "The agencies can all apply for numbers on each
other's Dictionaries. The hardest to deal with are the Americans. ...
[There are] more hoops to jump through, unless it is in their interest, 
in which case they'll do it for you."

There is only one agency which, by virtue of its size and role within
the alliance, will have access to the full potential of the ECHELON
system the agency that set it up. What is the system used for? Anyone
listening to official "discussion" of intelligence could be forgiven
for thinking that, since the end of the Cold War, the key targets of
the massive UKUSA intelligence machine are terrorism, weapons
proliferation, and economic intelligence. The idea that economic
intelligence has become very important, in particular, has been
carefully cultivated by intelligence agencies intent on preserving
their post-Cold War budgets. It has become an article of faith in much
discussion of intelligence. However, I have found no evidence that
these are now the primary concerns of organizations such as NSA.

QUICKER INTELLIGENCE, SAME MISSION: A different story emerges after
examining very detailed information I have been given about the
intelligence New Zealand collects for the UKUSA allies and detailed
descriptions of what is in the yards-deep intelligence reports New
Zealand receives from its four allies each week. There is quite a lot
of intelligence collected about potential terrorists, and there is
quite a lot of economic intelligence, notably intensive monitoring of
all the countries participating in GATT negotiations. But by far, the
main priorities of the intelligence alliance continue to be political
and military intelligence to assist the larger allies to pursue their
interests around the world. Anyone and anything the particular
governments are concerned about can become a target.

With capabilities so secret and so powerful, almost anything goes. For
example, in June 1992, a group of current "highly placed intelligence
operatives" from the British GCHQ spoke to the London Observer: "We
feel we can no longer remain silent regarding that which we regard to
be gross malpractice and negligence within the establishment in which
we operate."  They gave as examples GCHQ interception of three
charitable organizations, including Amnesty International and
Christian Aid. As the Observer reported: "At any time GCHQ is able to
home in on their communications for a routine target request," the
GCHQ source said. In the case of phone taps the procedure is known as
Mantis. With telexes it is called Mayfly. By keying in a code relating
to Third World aid, the source was able to demonstrate telex "fixes"
on the three organizations. "It is then possible to key in a trigger
word which enables us to home in on the telex communications whenever
that word appears," he said. "And we can read a pre-determined number
of characters either side of the keyword."12 Without actually naming
it, this was a fairly precise description of how the ECHELON
Dictionary system works. Again, what was not revealed in the publicity
was that this is a UKUSA-wide system. The design of ECHELON means that
the interception of these organizations could have occurred anywhere
in the network, at any station where the GCHQ had requested that the
four-digit code covering Third World aid be placed.

Note that these GCHQ officers mentioned that the system was being used
for telephone calls. In New Zealand, ECHELON is used only to intercept
written communications: fax, e-mail, and telex. The reason, according
to intelligence staff, is that the agency does not have the staff to
analyze large quantities of telephone conversations.

Mike Frost's expos of Canadian "embassy collection" operations
described the NSA computers they used, called Oratory, that can
"listen" to telephone calls and recognize when keywords are
spoken. Just as we can recognize words spoken in all the different
tones and accents we encounter, so too, according to Frost, can these
computers. Telephone calls containing keywords are automatically
extracted from the masses of other calls and recorded digitally on
magnetic tapes for analysts back at agency headquarters. However, high
volume voice recognition computers will be technically difficult to
perfect, and my New Zealand-based sources could not confirm that this
capability exists. But, if or when it is perfected, the implications
would be immense. It would mean that the UKUSA agencies could use
machines to search through all the international telephone calls in
the world, in the same way that they do written messages. If this
equipment exists for use in embassy collection, it will presumably be
used in all the stations throughout the ECHELON network. It is yet to
be confirmed how extensively telephone communications are being
targeted by the ECHELON stations for the other agencies.

The easiest pickings for the ECHELON system are the individuals,
organizations, and governments that do not use encryption. In New
Zealand's area, for example, it has proved especially useful against
already vulnerable South Pacific nations which do not use any coding,
even for government communications (all these communications of New
Zealand's neighbors are supplied, unscreened, to its UKUSA allies). As
a result of the revelations in my book, there is currently a project
under way in the Pacific to promote and supply publicly available
encryption software to vulnerable organizations such as democracy
movements in countries with repressive governments. This is one
practical way of curbing illegitimate uses of the ECHELON
capabilities.

One final comment. All the newspapers, commentators, and "well placed
sources" told the public that New Zealand was cut off from US
intelligence in the mid-1980s. That was entirely untrue. The
intelligence supply to New Zealand did not stop, and instead, the
decade since has been a period of increased integration of New Zealand
into the US system. Virtually everything the equipment, manuals, ways
of operating, jargon, codes, and so on, used in the GCSB continues to
be imported entirely from the larger allies (in practice, usually the
NSA). As with the Australian and Canadian agencies, most of the
priorities continue to come from the US, too.

The main thing that protects these agencies from change is their
secrecy.  On the day my book arrived in the book shops, without prior
publicity, there was an all-day meeting of the intelligence
bureaucrats in the prime minister's department trying to decide if
they could prevent it from being distributed. They eventually
concluded, sensibly, that the political costs were too high. It is
understandable that they were so agitated.

Throughout my research, I have faced official denials or governments
refusing to comment on publicity about intelligence activities. Given
the pervasive atmosphere of secrecy and stonewalling, it is always
hard for the public to judge what is fact, what is speculation, and
what is paranoia.  Thus, in uncovering New Zealand's role in the
NSA-led alliance, my aim was to provide so much detail about the
operations the technical systems, the daily work of individual staff
members, and even the rooms in which they work inside intelligence
facilities that readers could feel confident that they were getting
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staff in New Zealand about UKUSA and its systems such as ECHELON will
help lead to change.

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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:20:08 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
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 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:07:04 -0500
 From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@cam.ov.com>
 Subject: The InterNIC: a case study in bad database management

(This message was also sent to comp.protocols.dns.ops .)

The InterNIC (http://www.internic.net) is responsible for Internet
domain name service for all top-level domains, as well as for
second-level domains underneath all the old ARPA domains except MIL
(EDU, GOV, NET, ORG, COM).  Until a few years ago, domain registration
services were provided by the InterNIC for free.  That changed when
they convinced the NSF that its grant money wasn't enough to cover
their costs, so (amid much hubbub on the Net) they started charging
$50 per year for any second-level domain registration, with the first
two years (i.e., $100) payable in advance.

According to <http://rs.internic.net/nic-support/nicnews/stats.html>,
the InterNIC registered 638,788 new domains between August 1993 and
September 1996.  If I'm doing my math right, at $100 per domain,
that's almost $64 million, or over $20 million per year.  I would
think that with that much money, they'd be able to provide competent
service to their customers.  Unfortunately, my experience has been
that they're simply not doing an acceptable job.  Some examples:

*****

* Their automated systems do not function properly.

  They've introduced a PGP-based system for authentication of domain
contacts.  In other words, they allow domain contacts to register
their PGP public keys in the InterNIC public-key database, and then
requests which come from those contacts will only be accepted as
authentic if they are signed with the corresponding provide key.

  Unfortunately, this system does not always work.  Recently, I
submitted a series of twelve database modification requests to the
InterNIC in a single day.  All of them were correctly signed with my
PGP key.  Of the twelve requests, three were returned to me in
messages beginning, "We are not able to verify the PGP signed message
that you sent us."

  To make matters worse, for one of those three failed requests, I
received a message claiming the the modifications I'd requested had
been completed, two days *before* I received the message informing me
that they were unable to verify my PGP signature.

  I have asked the InterNIC multiple times why their system randomly fails
to verify valid PGP signatures.  They have not responded to my inquiries.

  Interestingly enough, another poster to comp.protocols.dns.ops
claimed that when he asked an InterNIC on the telephone about their
PGP authentication system, he was told that it is not currently
working.  That would seem to indicate that the InterNIC is aware that
there are problems with it, and yet they continue to advertise it on
their Web site without any indication that it might not work for any
given request.

* There are some data in the database which are impossible to update using
the templates they provide.

  One of the types of data stored in the InterNIC database is hosts; in
particular, hosts which act as domain-name servers for domains registered
with the InterNIC have records in the database.

  Host records include an organization name and address associated with the
host.  And yet, the template for updating host records (available at
<ftp://rs.internic.net/templates/host-template.txt>) does not have fields in
it for updating that information!  I believe that there are a couple of
other record types in the database which have this same problem.

  This organization/address data has been described to me by an InterNIC
employee as an "old hold-over;" it seems that new host records do not have
organization and address data, but old ones do.  Nevertheless, one would
think that when switching to a new format for host records, the InterNIC
would have either removed the obsolete data from the old records or
established a procedure for updating it.

  Instead, the only way to update this information electronically is
to send a plain-text message to hostmaster@internic.net explaining
what you're trying to do, and then hope that whoever reads your
message will be competent enough to understand what you're asking for
and do the update by hand.  Which brings me to my next point ...

* When asked how to do something that is not handled automatically by their
templates, their staff give incorrect answers (or simply ignore the query)
more often than they give correct answers.

  Of the twelve requests mentioned above, six of them were handled
improperly by the InterNIC staff members who processed them.  Iwn
several cases, I received a response instructing me to use a
particular template to make the changes I had requested, when in fact
those changes had nothing whatsoever to do with the template they told
me to use.

  I finally had to escalate my requests by sending "out-of-band"
E-mail to an InterNIC employee who has resolved problems of this sort
for me in the past, and she was able to "bounce" my requests to a high
enough level that they actually got processed.

  Incidentally, the InterNIC introduced one or more typographical
errors into the data I sent them when processing six of my twelve
requests (i.e., when they were done processing my requests, six of the
twelve records I asked them to modify had one or more typographical
errors in them).

  I suppose that sending incorrect answers is better than how things
were a few months ago -- then, if you sent a request that the person
who read your message did not know how to answer, he/she simply
ignored it and sent no response whatsoever.

* There are some data in their database which are impossible to update
using their current procedures.

  Imagine this scenario ... Joe Admin at Foo, Inc. is responsible for
system administration, including DNS administration.  He therefore has
a contact record in the InterNIC database indicating that he works for
Foo, Inc., and he is listed as a contact for various domain, network,
and host records, in the InterNIC database.

  Now, he leaves the company and takes a new job, with no further
contact with Foo, Inc.  He doesn't bother to update his contact record
in the InterNIC database before he leaves.

  Foo, Inc. would rather not let records remain in the InterNIC
database claiming that Joe works for them when in fact he does not.
Therefore, they want to contact the InterNIC and tell them, "Look, the
information in Joe Admin's contact record which says that he for us is
incorrect.  You can confirm this by attempting to send E-mail to the
address in the record, or by calling the phone number in the record
and asking to speak to him.  The person who answers will confirm that
he no longer works there.  Please either delete the contact record
completely or remove the information in it which associates Joe Admin
with Foo, Inc."

  Sounds reasonable, right?  Well, unfortunately, the InterNIC has *no
procedures whatsoever* for allowing a company to remove contact
information which incorrectly lists them.

  I attempted to do just what I described, i.e., to get the InterNIC
to remove the contact record for a former employee of OpenVision who
no longer works here, and who I cannot contact to ask him to update
his own record (and considering that it's not hurting him in any way,
I don't see that he'd have any incentive to update it even if I could
ask him to).

  After several rounds of E-mail with the InterNIC, they called me on
the telephone to discuss what I was trying to do.  Once on the phone
with them, I was "bounced up" through several layers of InterNIC
staff, until I was finally able to speak to a woman who was perfectly
willing to admit that yes, the scenario I described was a somewhat
common one, and yes, it was perfectly reasonable for a company not to
want the InterNIC database to associate non-employees with the
company, but no, there's no way for anyone but the owner of a contact
handle to update it.  "Perhaps we need to establish a procedure for
that, and I'll be glad to discuss that for you with our customer
service manager, but we don't have one right now," she said, and she
did not offer to make an exception and handle my particular request
manually without the blessing of a "procedure".

  Presumably, this means that I could edit my own contact handle to
indicate that I work for any company that I want, and that company
would have no way to get the InterNIC to remove the fraudulent
information.

  Similarly, presumably, that means that (to be a little morbid for a
moment), if someone listed in the InterNIC database dies, there's no
way for anyone else to get the InterNIC to remove the deceased's
record from the database.

  When I pressed the woman about this, she said to me, "If you're a
network administrator at this company, you presumably have control
over the mail server" (an assumption which is not always true, and
indeed isn't true in this case; although I can ask the people who
administer the mail server to make changes and hope that they'll
listen, I don't have the ability to make the changes directly).
"Well," she continued," if you send us a mail message which claims to
be from the former employee, asking for his record to be deleted,
we'll process it."

  "Let me get this straight," I responded.  "You're telling me that I
should forge E-mail to your system in order to delete this record."
She confirmed that interpretation.  I said, "Surely you see the
absurdity of that."

  She responded, "Well, obviously, ideally we wouldn't want anyone
forging requests to our system, but in this case, that's the only way
for you to delete the record."

  "What if the former employee had associated a PGP key with his
contact record before he left the company."

  "Well, in that case, you'd need his private PGP key in order to
delete the record."

  "But surely you know that's impossible -- the whole point of PGP is
that only the owner a private key has access to it.  Even if I had
access to the file in which it was stored, I wouldn't know the correct
password to unlock it."

  "Well, in that case, there would be no way for you to delete the record."

*****

There are a number of countries with strict laws about the collection
of private information in computerized databases.  Database
maintainers are required to seek permission from all individuals who
have data about them stored in the database, to guarantee the security
of the database, and to establish working procedures for keeping the
data in the databases up-to-date.

The United States has few such laws (there are laws about specific
types of databases, such as credit and medical records, but no laws
about databases in general).  Until I started dealing with the
InterNIC, I didn't see much point to them.  Well, I've changed my
mind.  The InterNIC proves rather clearly that left to their own
devices, companies will not maintain databases in a responsible
manner.

Incidentally, nowhere on the InterNIC's WWW site can I find the
address or telephone number of the governmental office which oversees
their grant and handles complaints about their services.  Several
months ago, I sent them E-mail asking for them so that I could file a
complaint, to be considered the next time their grant comes up for
renewal.  Like many of my other messages to them, that request was
ignored.


Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   jik@cam.ov.com

------------------------------

From: Mike King <mk@wco.com>
Subject: Nevada Regulators Approve SBC-Pacific Telesis Merger
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:22:48 PST


----- Forwarded Message -----

 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:17:53 -0800
 From: sqlgate@sf-ptg-fw.pactel.com
 Subject: NEWS: Nevada Regulators Approve SBC-Pacific Telesis Merger


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Michael Runzler, Pacific Telesis
(415) 394-3643
Joyce Trombley, Nevada Bell
(702) 333-4332
Larry Solomon, SBC
(210) 351-3990

Nevada Regulators Approve SBC-Pacific Telesis Merger

CARSON CITY, Nevada -- The Nevada Public Service Commission today
became the latest regulatory body to favorably approve the proposed
merger of SBC Communications and Pacific Telesis Group, the parent
company of Nevada Bell.

The commission voted 5 to 0 in favor of the merger.

"We are pleased that the Nevada Commission approved this merger
expeditiously so that consumers can soon benefit from the increased
competition our combined companies will provide in the fast-changing
telecommunications market," said Phil Quigley, chairman and chief
executive officer of Pacific Telesis Group. "We look forward to
providing our Nevada customers with a full range of local and
long-distance services as all telecommunications markets open to full
and fair competition."

"The combination of SBC and Pacific Telesis means that Nevada Bell
will be part of a stronger, more competitive global telecommunications
company that will provide customers with state-of-the-art
communications services and quality customer service at affordable
prices," said Edward E. Whitacre, Jr., chairman and chief executive
officer of SBC Communications.

In conjunction with the application for merger approval in Nevada, the
companies agreed to provide at least $4 million to Nevada Bell
customers in lieu of siting four headquarters and adding jobs in
California. The merger has been approved overwhelmingly by
shareholders of both companies, and the U.S. Department of Justice has
said the merger does not violate federal antitrust laws. Approvals
from the Federal Communications Commission on license transfers and
the California Public Utilities Commission are pending.

SBC and Pacific Telesis announced their merger agreement April 1.
Together, the two companies will have more than $21 billion in annual
revenues and serve the nation's two most populous states and seven of
its ten largest metropolitan areas.

Pacific Telesis (NYSE:PAC) is a diversified telecommunications
corporation based in San Francisco. Through its Pacific Bell and
Nevada Bell subsidiaries, the corporation offers a wide array of
telecommunications services in California and Nevada, including
directory advertising and publishing. The corporation serves nearly
15.8 million access lines. It offers Internet access services to both
business and residential customers. Another subsidiary, Pacific Bell
Mobile Services, has begun offering new wireless "personal
communications services" (PCS) in the San Diego area, and will expand
service in California and Nevada in 1997.

SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC) is one of the world's leading
diversified telecommunications companies and the second-largest
wireless communications company based in the United States. SBC
provides innovative telecommunications products and services under the
Southwestern Bell and Cellular One brands. Its businesses include
wireline and wireless services and equipment in the United States and
interests in wireless businesses in Europe, Latin America, South
Africa and Asia; cable television in both domestic and international
markets; and directory advertising and publishing.


Mike King   *   Oakland, CA, USA   *   mk@wco.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:31:55 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Mastering Microsoft Exchange Server" by Gerber


BKMSXSRV.RVW   960912
 
"Mastering Microsoft Exchange Server", Barry Gerber, 1996, 0-7821-1867-4,
U$39.95
%A   Barry Gerber
%C   1151 Marina Village Parkway, Alameda, CA   94501
%D   1996
%G   0-7821-1867-4
%I   Sybex Computer Books
%O   U$39.99 510-523-8233 800-227-2346 Fax: 510-523-2373 info@sybex.com
%P   659
%T   "Mastering Microsoft Exchange Server"
 
Gerber does offer a complete and easy to follow guide to setting up an
MS Exchange Server.  In addition, there is direction on the use of
both the Server and the client software.  The material is well
presented, if little different than would be found in the
documentation.
 
Singularly missing is any compelling reason to use MS Exchange Server.
Those who have heard some of the claims for Exchange will find little
evidence to support its purchase.  Examples of real applications would
have made the book more convincing, and likely more useful.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   BKMSXSRV.RVW   960912  Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications.

DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer        ROBERTS@decus.ca         rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
      BCVAXLUG Envoy      http://www.decus.ca/www/lugs/bcvaxlug.html

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: N11 Codes
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:03:25 -0800


In article <telecom16.663.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, nilsphone@aol.com (Nils
Andersson) wrote:

> I subscibe to the theory that N11 are national treasures, to be
> doled out very carefully. The 311 for "non-emergency" 911 may be a
> good start (clogged 911 is a major problem, at least in the LA area).

> OTOH, I have no problem with re-using the N11 (except probably 911) as
> AREA CODES. There should be no ambiguities, as area codes are always
> preceded by a one (except from some cellphones, but the cellswich gets all
> the digits and can obviously determine by the presence or absence of more
> digits whether an area code N11 or a special access N11 is dialled).

Problem: in some toll-alerting areas (Texas, specifically, and probably
other states as well), you don't dial 411 for local directory assistance.
You dial 1+411, because there is now a charge associated with the call.
(It changed in the late 1970s, when D.A. stopped being free.)

That leaves you with only six N11 codes to use as area codes, and that
doesn't seem worthwhile, given the public perception of N11 as "special."
In fact, all area codes with the second and third digits the same (i.e.,
222, 233, 244, 255, etc.) are reserved for special purposes as "easily
remembered" codes.

> The issue of 1+411 should go away, just because 411 is a charged call does
> (in a contemporary setting) not mean that it has to be dialled as 1+...

Tell that to the Texas PUC!  These are the same dinosaurs who still
refuse to PERMIT you to dial a local call with a leading '1'.  If you
dial a number in a different area code that just happens to be local,
you MUST NOT dial the 1.  And heaven *forbid* you should ever try to
dial a local number in your own area code with 1+area+number!


Linc Madison   *   San Francisco, California   *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Date: 16 Dec 1996 19:27:02 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.663.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, D Banks <david_banks@
gdt.com> writes:

> Was BC the only place in North America to use 112+Number for LD instead
> of 1+Number?

Back in 1966 (yup, nineteen hundred and sixty-six AD), I was in Montreal.
They switched sometime in the summer of that year from 112+ac to 1+ac. 


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:36:31 +0000
From: Clive D.W. Feather <Clive@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>
Reply-To: clive@demon.net
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Organization: Clive's laptop (part of Demon Internet Ltd.)


In article <telecom16.660.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Nils Andersson
<nilsphone@aol.com> writes

> 999 is the older British code, NOT Europe-wide. (Example: Sweden uses 90
> 000.)

> Various countries have had each their own emergency number. European
> Union and possbly some non-EU countries in Europe are standardizing to
> 112, currently some countries are in the "permissive dialling" mode,

The UK has no plans to ever drop 999; 112 and 999 will run in parallel
for ever.


Clive D.W. Feather    | Associate Director  | Director
Tel: +44 181 371 1138 | Demon Internet Ltd. | CityScape Internet Services Ltd.
Fax: +44 181 371 1150 | <clive@demon.net>   | <cdwf@cityscape.co.uk>
Written on my laptop - please reply to the Reply-To address <clive@demon.net>

------------------------------

From: srkleine@midway.uchicago.edu (Steven R. Kleinedler)
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Organization: The University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:56:08 GMT


In article <telecom16.663.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, D Banks <david_banks@
gdt.com> wrote:

> Was BC the only place in North America to use 112+Number for LD instead
> of 1+Number?

In my rural neck of the woods (eastern 517 quite close to the 313 (now
810) line about 20 miles southwest of Flint), until the early 80s, we
had to dial 120 and then the area code and number. A live operator
would come on line and we'd give our phone number, and then we were
connected through.

Since I lived in a small 517 corner of the school district, I did this
quite a lot.


This message has been brought to you by Steve Kleinedler.

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:00:12 +0000
From: Clive D.W. Feather <Clive@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>
Reply-To: clive@demon.net
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Organization: Clive's laptop (part of Demon Internet Ltd.)


Pat writes:

> instead, try the appproach suggested by 
> mcs.net here in Chicago, which they are publicizing widely in their 
> advertising: they do not carry newsgroups which *on their face* are
> intended as ways to exploit children; ie the newsgroups which by their
> title suggest advocacy of pedophilia. The recent advertisement by
> mcs.net lists about a dozen newsgroups.

Part of the problem with this is determining which newsgroups actually
do and don't carry illegal material (which is all, in my opinion, ISPs
should worry about). Even a title like "alt.sex.pedophilia" doesn't
tell you much - the group is supposed to be about supporting and
helping people so that they *don't* abuse children. Cutting it off
would, I am told, do more harm than good.

> As mcs.net pointed out in its
> advertisement, a survey of a few dozen ISPs found that about half
> said they never 'censor' newsgroups in any way, shape or form. But
> you say, not at this site. Go elsewhere. That is the stance mcs.net
> has adopted. 

I don't have a problem with individual ISPs taking this attitude. So
long as there is no coercion involved.

> Common rebuttal: if deprived of mass circulation of their newsgroup,
> 'those people' will start posting in other groups. Okay, so what?
> That's not your problem. Let them deal with the flame war sure to
> result when they post in some totally unrelated group. 

Firstly, there have been several examples of this happening - it's not
just a theoretical problem.

Secondly, the people doing these postings just ignore the flame wars.
They want to get their stuff out to a specific audience, and are using
Usenet to do so. Both senders and readers will ignore everything else.

Thirdly, experience shows that the stuff tends to end up in totally
unsuitable newsgroups, like alt.disney. The result is that children are
*more* likely, not less, to come across the material.

> Kids don't have to go in taverns -- where they are forbidden by law
> to be -- in order to find some beer to drink. They don't have to go
> to an adult bookstore in order to find a 'friendly' adult willing to
> explain the facts of life to them. But that is not the problem of
> the tavern owner or the bookstore manager who work to keep those 
> situations from occuring *on their own premises, in situations under
> their direct control*. 

Not a good analogy. A better one is the one that a policeman once gave
to me: every now and then, there are complaints about begging or
prostitution in an area. The police go in, clamp down, and clean up
the area. The net result is *not* to improve the environment, but
simply to push the beggars and whores to somewhere else. Nothing's
been gained - simply a load of police time has been wasted.

In the UK this is known as the "displacement theory". There is now
universal agreement, from ISPs, police, and government, that banning
newsgroups is the wrong way to go.

> Am I the only person who knows the purpose of, and how to use .http-access
> files in connection with a web page?
[...]
> For instance, suppose you denied access to '@u18.' wildcard ... meaning
> any site that had '.u18' as part of its name was denied viewing.

There's a better way to do this. There is a technology called PICS -
Platform for Internet Content Selection. This allows all that you
suggest, but with a much finer level of detail and without needing to
give every computer two names.

What you do is to go to a rating service and generate a rating for
your web pages. For example, the RSACi system rates pages on the level
of bad language, nudity, sexual activity, and violence. You then place
a string in the HTML source of your page which encodes this rating.

When someone comes to view the page, their browser can detect this tag
and not display the page if the rating is unacceptable. For example,
with Microsoft Internet Explorer 3, you set the maximum acceptable
rating and then lock it with a password. IE3 will then refuse to
display a page over that rating until the password is entered. You can
therefore allow your child to browse without worry, *and*, rather than
a simple under/over-18 choice, you can fine-tune the sort of material
they can look at.

[RSACi has, in my and many other opinions, a number of deficiencies in
its rating system. But the principles still apply.]


Clive D.W. Feather    | Associate Director  | Director
Tel: +44 181 371 1138 | Demon Internet Ltd. | CityScape Internet Services Ltd.
Fax: +44 181 371 1150 | <clive@demon.net>   | <cdwf@cityscape.co.uk>
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From: mbl@mail.msen.com (Matthew B Landry)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: 16 Dec 1996 21:04:31 GMT
Organization: Flunkies for the Mike Conspiracy


In article <telecom16.657.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu> TELECOM Digest Editor
noted:

> even' ... not once did anyone say let's go over and talk to the
> man and see what it is exactly he wants and try to find some way

	"What he wants" is not the issue. He might in fact be a decent
guy that I wouldn't too terribly mind having to dinner at my
house. That's not the point. No one (well ... no one credible) is
attacking Sen. Exon or his cronies as individuals, the internet
community is attacking their collective effort to muzzle us all. The
fact that a bad law was drafted by OK people with good intentions
doesn't mean it isn't a bad law, or that any punches should be pulled
in getting it taken back off the books as soon as possible.

	The groups which pushed for this bill would not be happy with
lesser restrictions. The government's defenses to the contrary, the
aim of those who pushed hardest for CDA is to silence anyone and
everyone who doesn't agree with them. "Indecent" is in that bill for a
reason, and that reason is to give prosecutors all the latitude they
need to lock up just about anybody. Maybe our representatives in
Congress were duped into unknowing collaboration with this agenda, or
maybe they actually agreed with it. (Personally, I rather suspect a
combination of both.) That also isn't the point ... the point is that
the law as written is constitutionally unacceptable. As the old saying
goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't care if
they "meant well", I care that if they get their way a mildly popular
and potentially controversial web page could earn me or any other
American a longer prison term than that extended to such upstanding
citizens as Al Capone, just as long as they can drag together twelve
people in the entire united states who are offended by it.

	CDA's proponents say its purpose is to get the hard-core
pornography off the internet. That cannot be reconciled with its
actual and easily predictable effect of actively ENCOURAGING
commercial pornography (just about the only impenetrable defense
against prosecution under the law is that you charge someone's credit
card before you show them anything) while stifling controversial free
(in both political and economic senses) expression.

> Why did no one go to Exxon (again, I am using him as a generic
> example) and say something like this ...

	[See below.]

> some of the protections you are looking for. Over a period of
> two to three years, we should be able to identify parts of the 
> net which are adult in nature and pretty well segregate it from

	No, not really. Not until one can define a _precise_ standard,
guaranteed by statute to be good nationwide, for what is "adult
oriented".  Good luck.

> First Amendment hassles -- we will probably begin moving the
> kids onto machines which are restricted in the contacts they
> can establish.

	I've done a lot of research on this, and I have yet to
encounter a commercial ISP that will allow anyone on without some kind
of affirmation that the customer is over 18 or that his/her parents
understand the implications of an internet account and accept
liability for it. In other words, this change has already happened.

	The problem is, the kids can lie. I did, when I was 14 and
wanted an internet account. And the ISP is still held liable if it's
found out that the kids did lie.

	Moreover, since everyone on the net KNOWS that kids lie to get
past these things, there's no way someone faced with a multimillennial
prison term could defend himself by saying that he didn't know that
minors might be able to access his site.

	Liquor store owners that accept fake ID get prosecuted pretty 
regularly. Why should ISPs or web site owners be any different?

>    Senator, suppose we use the term 'obscenity' instead of 'indecency'
>    as the cut-off point. It has already been defined, it has no

	[Here's the "below" I asked you to "see".]

I did in fact speak to Sen. Exon's co-sponsor about this issue.  And
he specified to me, personally, on the phone, that "indecency" had
been used as the standard deliberately. That is, limiting the law to
well-defined restrictions had been considered and actively rejected
during the drafting stage. That implies to me that they knew what they
were getting America into, and did it anyway. It's a lot harder to
forgive them when one knows that.

> a lot the same with ISPs. No, they are not legally common
> carriers, but for all intents and purposes they are. It really

	Well ... actually ... since Cubby v. Compuserve, ISPs and
similar entities have had the content-isolation aspects of common
carrier protection availible to them in a legally enforceable manner.

> And *we* (yes I mean we, the net) could have participated in
> drafting a law which would have been very favorable to us ...

	We did. Patrick Leahy had a net-friendly alternative ready,
and he offered it up for consideration. Congress rejected it, which
again makes one wonder where their priorities really are.

> if we win, we still lose.

	Nope.

> Because if we win, then they start on the next issue, which I
> believe will be copyright.

Ah, but the WIPO copyright monstrosity has enemies with a much 
easier time defending themselves.

> same reason I have little business talking about it; I do not own
> the computer upon which this is published and very few of you have
> any property rights where the network or your local site is concerned.

	All Americans have the right to freely enter contractual 
relationships such as commercial internet accounts and positions of 
employment.

	No, I cannot compel my ISP of choice to offer me access to the 
facilities I want on the net. But I can go down the road to their 
competitors if they refuse. And I can insist upon (and generally receive) 
explicit guarantees of access as a non-negotiable condition of signing a 
user agreement. No, I do not have _all_ the priveledges of ownership over 
the infrastructure of the internet, but a complex web of such contractual 
relationships gives me all of those priveledges which are relevent to this 
discussion.

> You are there with the blessings of your corporate employer who will
> let you talk smart and sassy until he finally gets tired of it and
> then fires you.

	Well, actually I'm here with the knowledge (but not explicit 
blessings) of my ISP employer, who will completely ignore whatever I say 
on the net as long as it does not relate to our company, and I include a 
disclaimer equivalent to the one actually installed in my .sig file. 

Before I worked here, I posted from the exact same account in my capacity 
as a customer of this ISP, and at that time they didn't care _at all_ what 
I had to say. The only change was that I stopped paying for the account, 
and I had to become a little more careful about talking to people in the 
company's market area about internet services.

> being that a semi-retired prissy old-maid librarian who helps some
> child log on to the net only to have the child do a search on 
> Alta Vista and turn up some string with a four letter combination
> in the middle somewhere considered 'indecent' gets sentenced to
> life in prison. All the librarians are now frantic.  So the soloists

	Let them be frantic. It'll only last until The Court upholds the 
injunction.

> for the court. What the judges know about computers could be written
> on the head of a pin.

	Actually, given the level of detail in the court's findings of 
fact, it appears that by the time the ruling was issued, they knew quite 
well how the internet worked, at least as it relates to this issue.

> Being respectful of the First Amendment, they go out of their way to
> avoid violating it.

	This is proper and appropriate behavior for federal judges. 
Frankly, it's better than I had expected, until I saw the ruling.

> how come you did not get Exxon and his buddies straightened out a

	I can't speak about Exxon as a specific person, but "his
buddies" had no interest in being straightened out. They made that
more than clear to me on the phone.


Matthew Landry
Well, yeah. Actually I do sometimes speak 
for Msen. But not from THIS account.   O-

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:41:36 -0800
From: Clayton E. Cramer <cramer@dlcc.com>
Reply-To: cramer@dlcc.com
Organization: Diamond Lane Communications
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News


I am in complete agreement with you Pat.  There are a lot of people
out there who have no idea the damage that exposure to a group like
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teens would do to a child.  They
have become enamored of an extremist point of view about the First
Amendment that is contrary to original intent, and have mistakenly
applied it to situations where children are present.


Clayton E. Cramer   Technical Marketing Manager, Diamond Lane Communications
email: cramer@dlcc.com web page: http://www.cs.sonoma.edu/~cramerc

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From: hillary@netaxs.com (Hillary Gorman)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:50:36 -0500
Organization: Packet Shredders Anonymous


In article <telecom16.657.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, TELECOM Digest Editor
<ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hillary wants to know what is a poor sysadmin to do? She suggests
> hiring ten additional people to 'read everything' in the news every
> day. No, not at all ... instead, try the appproach suggested by 
> mcs.net here in Chicago, which they are publicizing widely in their 
> advertising: they do not carry newsgroups which *on their face* are
> intended as ways to exploit children; ie the newsgroups which by their
> title suggest advocacy of pedophilia. The recent advertisement by

I did not suggest hiring ten people to read news. I inquired as to
what we should do to filter based on content that did NOT involve
hiring ten people to read news.

We already do not carry the kiddy porn groups, or any other group
widely known to carry content in violation of federal law. But, the
content is still extant in other groups, and we have no way of
controlling what users may for example, scan in, and email to users at
other sites. How do you filter on content in a case like that, Pat?
Or, a user may put files called biblestudy.jpg and biblestudy.gif on
his web page entitled seminary.html. If I grep through my users' web
directories for sexual keywords, these files will not show up, but
they could very well be pornographic ...

> mcs.net lists about a dozen newsgroups. I suppose it would take
> Hillary thirty seconds to call up an editor and cut a few lines out
> of the system-wide .newsrc file. What you are saying is your site
> does not receive those groups and does not pass them along. There is

Right, we don't. But what about OTHER "illegal content" - it's not all
in newsgroups. Plus, what if the content simply shifts to
alt.haha.can't.find.us or some such? We *can't* read every new group
that comes by. If informed of illegal content, we can act on it, but
beyond that, it's out of my hands.

> Common rebuttal: if deprived of mass circulation of their newsgroup,
> 'those people' will start posting in other groups. Okay, so what?
> That's not your problem. Let them deal with the flame war sure to
> result when they post in some totally unrelated group. 

But they can start their OWN newsgroup, Pat. I have SEEN it. Or they
can "take over" an unused existing group, like alt.conspiracy.yeast or
something.  And what if we don't find out about it until one of our
users SUES us because his kid wanted to read about yeast and
accidentally downloaded ten gifs of nude porn stars and now they're
going to sue us?

> Am I the only person who knows the purpose of, and how to use .http-access
> files in connection with a web page? The presence of such a file in a
> directory causes various things to happen: depending on what you put
> in the file, you can deny access to a given user and/or site; you can
> deny access to all but a select few users/sites, etc. So Hillary and
> other sysadmins, why not teach your web customers how to install and
> use .http-access files as a way to control who gets to see their page?

- added load on server;
- reconfiguring software required;
- brains required (not all of every ISP's userbase has those);
- can't control it anyway.

Are you implying that I tell every customer they must use this, even if
they don't have "adult pages"? 

How am I supposed to know if my users are complying, if only "adult pages"
have to do it? View every user webpage? Right ...

> For instance, suppose you denied access to '@u18.' wildcard ... meaning
> any site that had '.u18' as part of its name was denied viewing. Now
> suppose on the flip side of the coin, you (if you even have the
> possibility of underage subscribers) take one of your machines and
> give it -- in addition to its regular name -- an *alias* of 'u18', and
> anytime that machine makes any outbound connection anywhere on the
> net it introduces itself as 'u18.the.rest.of.its.name' ... actually
> I think you would name the machine 'u18' and its 'alias' would be 
> the regular name it has had all along, so that your users need not
> know anything at all about the 'u18' part ... 

Wait. You're saying that the users IP addresses should resolve to a
hostname including the u18 bit in it, right? Well, dynamic IP
addressing is used by most ISPs, and what if there are over 18 and
under 18 year old subscribers? You're telling me that I have to limit
the accessibility of my service to my users, because instead of having
one pool of dynamic IP addresses to assign, now I have to have
two ... one which resolves to hostnames including u18 and one which does
not. And since I'm using xylogics terminal servers and because of the
way we've got everything configured, the pools of IP addresses must be
assigned to a specific terminal server. So I'd have to limit which
phone number the u18 people could call in on. No way, Pat. I think
you're underestimating the technical side of this all in a major way.

And as far as the amount of users under age 18 ... we have quite a
few. I was in COLLEGE when I was 17, do you think that all university
computer labs need to have this u18 bit in their hostnames? Then how
on earth will 17 yr old biology students be able to study the explicit
portions of the visible man project, prithee tell?

As far as marking user web files ...

Who designates the files that must contain the wildcard? You're
telling me I have to hire a bunch of people to review content for user
web pages? Not something I'm about to do.

> Now, starting with your next billing cycle, and continuing over a
> period of several months with *existing users* and from the start
> with *new users* you require your user to certify to the following:
> "I am of legal majority age in the state in which I reside". In other
> words, the person is 18 years of age or older. With new users, you
> might decide to have them submit a photocopy of a driver's license
> or birth certificate. With existing users, do something; do not 
> inconvenience your admins and do not unduly annoy your users. Just
> phase them in over a period of time. 

> Those who do not certify or offer proof, etc get placed on the
> 'u18' machine. Those who do get placed elsewhere. Now we no longer

What about dynamically assigned slip/ppp users as stated above? It's not
this simple, Pat.

> have to worry about 'decency bits' or whatever they called them. You
> decide which of the web pages on your site should be restricted in the
> same way you decide which newsgroups will not be carried: a cursory
> glance through the page at the time it is installed. If it appears

Pat, users install web pages constantly, update them on the fly. I'm
not going to read it every time it gets updated. One of my users
updates his web page easily 20 times a day. I'm not going to have time
for this ... would YOU?

Even if I set up a process to grep for keywords, it wouldn't
work. People would know about it and avoid the keywords, or they'd
switch providers to someone who didn't do it and I'd be out of
business.

Any solution which requires the admins to actually load up a graphical
browser and look at a user web page before approving it is, IMO, too
much of a burden on the ISP.

> (1) the web page owners will cheat and not deny access to u18. Of 
> course some will. There are merchants who sell cigarettes to minors
> knowing good and well the kid is not old enough.  There are bartenders
> who do not bother to check identification. Sometimes they get caught,
> sometimes not. That's not your problem. You have set the rules for
> your site; you reserve the right to audit your users and drop those

This is already the case: I have rules, I reserve the right to enforce
them. We don't need some new law -- child pornography is already
illegal ... allowing users under 18 to access pornography is already
illegal. Why do we need another law which will make me a criminal when
I am already exhibiting a desire to comply with the alleged spirit of
this law?

> Why not try dropping those users who refuse to categorize themselves
> as 'adult' when such is the case? ***Note I did not say drop those
> who operate adult web pages; I said drop those who refuse to lock
> out minors from viewing adult material or who lie to you (the admin)
> and claim they are not when you find out they are, etc***. Is the
> goodwill of one user worth having the authorities come down on you
> and possibly hassle your entire site?  I think not.

Nobody has ever complained to me about porn being accessible from our
server, though I know that some is ... do you seriously think
someone's going to complain that a page isn't restricted? No, not
until some gov't honcho decides to try to bust someone, then we'll get
nailed and it won't be fair ...

> (2) not only will the web page owners cheat, the kids will cheat.
> See, says Hillary, (and don't take it personally, I am using her
> as a generic example), I told you there was nothing we could do
> about it!   <grin> ...

> Well gosh then let's drop all the liquor licensing laws and the
> laws about being of a certain age to smoke or drive a car or drop
> out of school ... after all, clever, mischevious children will
> always find work arounds ...

Come on, Pat ...

It's not the point that people will cheat. The point is, it's not
possible to implement except on a purely voluntary basis. When I go to
buy liquor there is someone STANDING there to ask for ID. Same thing
if I try to sign up for Driver's ed, or buy cigarettes. But if I
request a web page from a webserver, there's no one there. If I ftp a
file into my web directory - or even if I open up a text editor in my
web directory and prepare a file that says "I want to F*** small
children" (not that I would) there is no automatic way to check that
or to flag it over 18.  

> a) they'll sign up with false identification ... sure, and kids
> never use false id to buy beer do they?

You're still basing this on the assumption it is possible to split
users into "over 18" and "under 18" pools, which I maintain is a
technically NONtrivial matter!

> b) they are too clever! They'll find ways to hack right into the
>    stuff they want to see. Yep, that's right, and its not your
>    problem as long as you took reasonable efforts to prevent it.

You sound like the mass media, here. Totally irrelevant. Computer crimes
are already illegal.

> To Hillary, all I can say is we went through this before, you and I.
> Get in your system .newsrc file today and go snip-snip here and
> snip-snip there. Then forget about it. Just do that little bit to
> help, okay?

Obviously you aren't understanding me. We already do not carry groups
widely known to have illegal traffic. I resent the implication that we
would do otherwise, quite frankly.  As discussed above, that's the
simplest action to take. 

I maintain that passing a law which it is going to be impossible to comply
with is counter productive. 

It is *already* illegal to allow access to pornography to underage
kids in the US. Our users, if we find out they're running porn sites,
do have to password protect them.

It is *already* to distribute kiddie porn (and pirated software).

What happens when one of my users emails pirated software or pictures
of naked ladies worshipping Satan to this CDA people? *I'M* in
violation of the law ???

I simply think that network administrators should *NOT* be held
legally liable for enforcing federal law with reference to what kind
of traffic goes through the network unless/until technically feasible
methods of doing so exist, which you have not demonstrated to be the
case.


hillary gorman     http://www.hillary.net     info@hillary.net
              "to err is human; to moo, bovine."

------------------------------

From: wes.leatherock@hotelcal.com (Wes Leatherock)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:25:35 GMT
Organization: Hotel California BBS
Subject: The Opposition Point of View: My Response


ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (Patrick Townson) wrote:

       [ ... much text deleted ... ]

> Remember Senator Exxon? Way back then ... more than two years ago
> or so, when all this hullabaloo was first coming up ... the net's
> response was to protest, to demonstrate, to throw tantrums, to
> mail bomb everyone involved. We were told to turn our web pages
> black, all sorts of responses and schemes were devised to 'get
> even' ... not once did anyone say let's go over and talk to the
> man and see what it is exactly he wants and try to find some way
> to appease those people. 

> Why did no one go to Exxon (again, I am using him as a generic
> example) and say something like this ...

       Pardon me, Pat, but isn't it Senator Exon (one "x")?  I must
confess that when I came to the second paragraph of the material
quoted above (where "Senator" was not prefixed) that I came to a stop
and wondered what this much-vilified oil company had done to or about
the net.

       I believe Exxon (the oil company) did research in many
languages and databases to make sure their name did not match any
existing word (including proper names) they could find.


Wes Leatherock                                                             
wes.leatherock@hotelcal.com                                                 
wes.leatherock@origins.bbs.uoknor.edu                              


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Would it help if I said it was a 
typographical error?  Probably not ...  PAT]

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From: dave.hultberg@paonline.com (Dave Hultberg)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View:  FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:32:05 GMT
Organization: NAVCOMTELSTA, Pensacola, FL
Reply-To: dave.hultberg@paonline.com


On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:15:00 EST, TELECOM Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.
lcs.mit.edu> wrote:

<Most of Pat's well thought out arguments snipped>

> To John Levine, I agree the way it is written is not very good. So 
> damned if the court approves it and damned if they don't. You are so
> good at teaching things to Dummies (your book was great by the way),
> how come you did not get Exxon and his buddies straightened out a
> couple years ago?  Why didn't you counter him; shall we say match his
> bid and raise it?

> To Hillary, all I can say is we went through this before, you and I.
> Get in your system .newsrc file today and go snip-snip here and
> snip-snip there. Then forget about it. Just do that little bit to
> help, okay?

Pat,

While I agree with your moral arguments and your technical points as
for as USENET newsgroups, I believe that webservers and other servers
present major technical problems that you haven't addressed.  Even if
you pass some version of CDA, all the purveyors of filth will have to
do is move offshore just as the 900 phonesex folks have.  There will
always be countries that permit this stuff either for the money that
it brings in or because their standards of obscenity are different
from ours.  

Sure you can filter out sites with access lists by IP or domain name,
but just as soon as you do that, they will change to a new one.
Eventually your filter lists will get large enough to impact network
performance.  What do you do with a site that has "legal" material and
smut? It is easy to block something with a name like www.filthysex.com, 
but if a major provider in Scandinavia, the UK or elsewhere in the
world permits smut sites, do we block all of their traffic in order to
catch the smut?  Do we blacklist entire countries, because they won't
go along with our concepts of acceptable use of the net?  What do we
do about internet chat servers?  What do you do to prevent someone
from telneting to a machine outside of the U.S. and then surfing the
nasty sites from that machine?

Take a look at the problems Singapore is having trying to keep
"unacceptible" internet traffic out of their country.   Germany didn't
like some Nazi stuff on an XS4ALL server in the Netherlands and told
their ISPs to block that server.  XS4ALL got around the block by
rotating the IP address of the server.  Usenet and servers located
within US jurisdiction are relatively easy to regulate, but what do we
do about all the stuff that originates outside our borders?  

As a parent I don't trust anyone else to protect my children.  Too
many people in this country want to abrogate their responsibility to
their children to someone else and another group wants to control what
you and I do, because they know what is "good for us".  I take
responsibility for raising my children and Senator Exon and other
dogooders can just leave them alone.


Dave Hultberg

------------------------------

Subject: Kid-Safe ISPs
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:56:28 PST
From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Reply-To: rishab@dxm.org


Pat,

Once you say that the CDA should have been about 'obscenity' and not
'indecency' the rest of your comments, however well-reasoned, become
irrelevant. Obscenity has always been illegal on the Net under US
law. Indeed it is under existing obscenity statutes that BBS sysops
(AABBS) were prosecuted. The analysis of the CDA by the EFF and others
right from the beginning was NOT about protecting adults' right to
view porn, but about their right to read about breast cancer or
breeding horses, among the things classified as indecent but not
obscene. If obscenity were Sen Exon's goal, there would be no need for
new legislation - except something minor to clarify on the 'local
standards' clause given that the Net's not local anywhere. Of course
the Senator's goal was political mileage more than anything else, so
there had to be a bill.

The stuff you wrote about - child pornography etc - is completely
illegal in the US, even for adults. There have been arrests in some
cases, and many investigations. No _new_ law is necessary there
either.

So, you may ask, why's all the dirty stuff still around? Pat, when was
the last time you visited alt.sex.pedophilia? If you think spammers
are inventing newer ways of sending untraceable mail, you should see
the posters of pictures in these groups.  The headers on one post I
tried to trace terminated with some unnamed IP machine (that couldn't
be pinged) after going through half the countries in Europe. If it's
next to impossible to trace _one_ of these posts within the US, it IS
impossible to trace hundreds or thousands every day, going around the
world.  Again, there is no need for a new law. Existing laws apply.

If you followed the Teal-Homolka mess in Canada, you should know that
it's far better to keep unwanted content in one newsgroup - or a
handful of them - than to have it spread elsewhere and ruin the
Net. Now at least only people interested in porn must be flooded with
it; those interested in telecom can get on with life. BTW don't talk
of 'flaming' posters of porn to comp.* - these posters don't need
return addresses of _any_ kind, so flaming will probably not work.

The final stupidity of the CDA is that it applies to the US only, of
course, so it's irrelevant to the Net. Porn sites are already moving
off the US into Europe and Japan, and you can't prevent access to
them.

I believe in free market solutions. There are signs one is already
found. Most porn web sites now ask you to confirm your adulthood
through one of several membership/validation schemes (adultcheck,
adultpass etc) which charge a few dollars a year.  Furthermore,
although 'family-oriented' Prodigy didn't do very well, there's
certainly an increasing market for 'family' ISPs that can say they'll
try to be kid-safe. 

To Hillary and the other ISP owners out there - you can do this by
setting up a proxy server with one of those nanny programs, as well as
killing many of the nastier newsgroups. You're providing an extra
service, so you can charge for it. I don't agree with Pat that it's
every ISPs duty to make their systems kid-safe.  Some will want to
address that market, others need not. It's probably better that way,
because those who want unrestricted access will know where to go -
maybe eventually adult ISPs will be the more expensive - and not
clutter previously kid-safe newsgroups.


First Monday - The Peer-Reviewed Journal on the Internet
http://www.firstmonday.dk/  Munksgaard International Publishers, Copenhagen

International Editor - Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (ghosh@firstmonday.dk)
Mobile +91 11 98110 14574; Fax +91 11 2209608; Tel +91 11 2454717
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From: toolbox@ibm.net
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:41:36 GMT
Organization: Nut Screws and Bolts - Film at 11
Reply-To: toolbox@ibm.net


Around 12 Dec 96 05:21:09 GMT, Greg Stahl <gsta@music.stlawu.edu>
wrote:

> DataComm over power lines is used in alot of different places.  One
> that I am aware is the mass transit subway system in Washington, D.C.
> called Metro.  Although I cannot describe the details, the trains are
> powered by a "third rail" that carries 380 volts (I could be wrong
> about the voltage).

[snip]

I can't really believe this.  What I do know about the Washington, DC,
Metro system is that they have full radio communications for Metro
Police and the maintenance personnel, and they communicate via two-way
radio.  You can see the repeaters at regular intervals in the tunnels;
and closer if there's a bend in the tunnel they look like two square
fins on the walls of the tunnels.

Although not the same thing, there is also full-coverage from one of
the cellular carriers (I think Cellular One).  They use two thick
white cables: one transmits and one receives.  You can see the name on
the insulation if you look hard enough.  For the stations there are
these suspicious-looking finned panels on the ceilings in obvious
locations.

But as far as communications via the third rail, I find that very hard
to believe since radio communications is pervasive in the tunnels
*and* the train car sensors between the rails are frequent enough that
they could be used themselves as the means of communications.

But I'm just a rider and casual observer of Metro, so what do I know?

toolbox@ibm.net

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:54:27 -0500
From: Curtis R. Anderson <gleepy@intelligencia.com>
Organization: Gleepy's Henhouse
Subject: Re: Ethernet Over Power Lines


Tim Dillman wrote:

> I recently visited one of my customers to discuss future technologies
> and he brought up the wildest idea I have heard yet.  It seems that
> the public utilities are using power lines as the transmission media
> for internal ethernet transmissions (or so he said).  I was very
> skeptical about this notion but managed a smile and nod when my
> customer told me of this, but sill I wonder ...

>  ... Can anyone confirm or dispel this idea?

Out here in this part of New York state, the power company, Steuben
Rural Electric Cooperative (SREC), installed a Load Management Unit to
shut off major appliances (such as an electric water heater in an
all-electric home) during peak periods. "Peak periods" would be defined
as those times when the farmers are milking the cows or during the
hottest summer days when heavy air conditioning use is anticipated.

The load management unit installed to control the house's water heater
is a QEI, Inc. model 8135. A power company tech wrote "32" in the Group
Address box.

Three poles away toward the substation is a lone transformer with a box
attached to the transformer's secondary. This might be some kind of
signaling amplifier for the two houses down the line from it, each on
its own transformer.

No capacitors appear to be installed on the transformers, but SREC uses
a common neutral for primary and secondary in what might be called a
three phase/four wire system. A small capacitor might be built into the
transformer, though.

At least SREC is nice enough to give a two dollar credit per month for
each LMU!

If there is enough interest, I'll take a picture of the LMU and make it
available through anonymous FTP. Digital cameras are so much fun. :-)


Curtis R. Anderson, Co-creator of "Gleepy the Hen", SP 2.5?, KoX
URLs: http://www.servtech.com/public/cra/   | XENU: All that needs
      ftp://ftp.servtech.com/pub/users/cra/ |       to be said!
      mailto:gleepy@intelligencia.com       |

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 12:11 EST
From: North Coast Communications <0005082894@mcimail.com>
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call


Speaking of misleading ...

In the {Chicago Sun-Times}, ads for calls to 1-664-410-XXXX             
                                             ^^^ ^^^
are advertised (in fine print of course), "normal ld rates to MO apply".
                                                              ^^
What are we supposed to assume? That these calls are to MISSOURI??!!!
        
****

In checking classifieds from many newspapers & magazines nationwide,
"410" seems to be the only prefix used in 664 for this purpose.  Which
leads me to wonder if this is a "special" prefix, not reachable by
callers on Montserrat.
                                                  
"404" seens to serve a similiar purpose in 268.  As does "704" in 941
(FL).

I am interested in similiar NPA/NXX combinations used this way for a "Hot"
list that I am compiling.  

                            ----------

A few years back there were Party Lines and such in the 515 NPA. These
were run by the Jefferson Telephone Company in their 386 (adv. "FUN)
prefix. They were all located in the 6XXX series, which was not
reachable from other 386 numbers (calls dialed from that town would
reach a fast busy). This proved so lucrative that they opened a 945
prefix specifically from that purpose. Again, though 945 was listed
"Jefferson IA", there was no way you could call FROM Jefferson.  Only
calls from outside the one prefix dialing area (386) were accepted.

I went to Jefferson IA on a road trip to investigate this. Jefferson
Telephone was a "family-owned business" and the people in town had no
idea what was going on right under the noses. In fact, when I spoke
with the county sheriff (Jefferson is the county seat), he informed me
he had heard "rumors", but when he dialed the numbers in question all
he got was a busy signal.

Of course I set him, other county officials, (and a few local preachers)
straight in the whole matter! :+)

Heh Heh ... The president of Jefferson Telephone was NOT pleased when I
finally caught up with him to ask for an interview! Had a lot of "FUN"
with that one!


Michael Fumich              

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:43:42 +0000
From: Clive D.W. Feather <Clive@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>
Reply-To: clive@demon.net
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call (was Re: Further Notes on Use of 555)
Organization: Clive's laptop (part of Demon Internet Ltd.)


In Digest 16.658 I wrote:

>> Over the past few years, we've seen International PAY-per-call scams, some 
>> in the NANP Caribbean, and some to numbers (but not necessarily locations) 
>> outside of the NANP.

> I don't see how you can class these as scams. With the +1 809 and non-
> NANP numbers, you pay *exactly* the same as a call to a "genuine"
> number in that area. Provided it's clearly presented as an
> international call the way a genuine call would be presented, what's
> the problem?

The number of responses I've received show that I didn't make myself
clear, so I hope Pat will let me make a clarification.

I know that these numbers are often presented in a misleading manner.
That's clearly a scam, and I dislike it as much as anyone
else. However, the original posting appeared to object to the entire
concept of using foreign numbers and revenue sharing at all, and I
read it as calling that process a scam.

If a number is clearly presented in the normal format (no playing
around with funny punctuation or prefixes), and it is clear that it is
charged as an international call at the same rate as all other calls
to that country (i.e. no forwarding to 900 numbers or anything like
that), then I see it as perfectly legitimate for the callee to receive
revenue from the telco, or to divert the call to another location
that's cheaper to call, or whatever.

Hopefully we can now close this topic.


Clive D.W. Feather    | Associate Director  | Director
Tel: +44 181 371 1138 | Demon Internet Ltd. | CityScape Internet Services Ltd.
Fax: +44 181 371 1150 | <clive@demon.net>   | <cdwf@cityscape.co.uk>
Written on my laptop - please reply to the Reply-To address <clive@demon.net>

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nilsphone)
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call
Date: 16 Dec 1996 07:12:17 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


> That way our companies and corps that do not make international calls
> can block the 976s and look alikes, the 900s and the 011 and the
> telcom managers can  avoid at least one staff meeting a week.

The NANP will probably stand.

What the company telco manager can do: 

1) Block 809 if necessary, and the other Caribean/etc area codes as
necessary. (You probably do not want to block calls to Canada). 

2) Block 10xxx dialling. The company that pays the bill has the right to
choose the carrier. Period. 

What the local Telcos should do, possibly aided by the FCC etc: 

3) Disallow backcharges to the caller on any but 900/976 calls that the
caller should KNOW are surcharged, and which, unlike 011 calls, are
blocked by the 900 block.

4) Allow BLOCKING of 10xxx calls!!!  This may be an original idea of mine.


What we all should do, including the above entities:

5) Raise public awareness about scams, particularly the 10xxx-011
variety with kickbacks, this one was new to me, I must admit. Pretty
nasty, but clever!

Questions: Should 10xxx+011 with kickbacks be allowed? Can they be
disallowed?


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: Ray Rikansrud  <rayr@cac.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Yet Another PAY-per-Call
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:13:09 -0800
Organization: University of Washington


That is actually kind of funny.  The name of the Teleslime that is:
Telecon  Communications Corporation (yes that's an n, not an m)

-Ray

On 12 Dec 1996, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> 101-051-801-144-181-371-1138
> 
> (10518/101-0518 is one of the AOSlime these lot get, or have in the
> past gotten, kickbacks from).

------------------------------

From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:02:35 GMT
Organization: Catoosa Computing Services
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:24:10 -0800, Mark Cuccia wrote:

> (Industry Numbering Committee), 511 and 711 have been proposed or
> reserved or assigned to TDD/TTY 'relay' services, similar to the
> 800-855-1155 (or 800-855-xxxx) numbers.

Another related proposal: Reserve a N11 code (or some other
standardized code) for *TDD/TTY* users to reach the local emergency
agency.  In most areas, the TDD/TTY number for "911" is a standard
POTS number, which is *not* standard from one community to the
next.

In my town (Ft. Oglethorpe, GA) the number is 706-861-xxxx;
In Chattanooga, TN, the number is 423-629-xxxx;
Why not have it some standard code?

A question:  I know 800-855 was reserved for TDD/TTY services.  But why
didn't the various state relay services locate in 800-855, *instead* of
the mishmash of other numbers?

For example, the Georgia relay service numbers are:
  1-800-255-0135 and 1-800-255-0056
and the Tennessee numbers are:
  1-800-848-0298 and 1-800-848-0299

It's bad enough trying to remember which number is voice and the other
TDD/TTY! 

** Notes on relay services: **

Originally, the state relay services would only complete calls that
both *originated and terminated* in the same state (aside from 800
numbers, etc. which were normally always reachable.)  For local
calling areas that span states, such as the Chattanooga/north Georgia
area, this meant that part of the local calling area was unreachable
through a relay service.  Since that time, most relay services have
expanded to allow interstate calls; only *one* point has to be in the
state that sponsors the relay service.  (For example, to call a
Tennessee hearing-impaired customer from my house in Georgia, I can
call either the Georgia *or* Tennessee relay services.)

Most relay services are still tied closely to AT&T, mainly because
AT&T often provides the long distance for the relay service, or *the
relay service itself.* For example, the vast majority of relay
services will still accept only LEC or AT&T calling cards for non-1+
calls (from payphones, etc.) and calls are billed at AT&T rates,
through AT&T's billing system.  (If I recall correctly, MCI has its
own relay service -- "TeleRelay" -- but no other IXCs do; they didn't
require the stilted "go ahead" conversation that the AT&T-based
services do.)

> N11 code answers at the relay center with a voice operator (live
> human? automated?) for voice customers placing calls to TDD/TTY-abled

They're humans.  SomeONE has to type the voice person's words into the
TDD!  *Good* voice recognition still isn't here yet. :(

** end relay service notes **

> There is also discussion in the CSCN regarding Canadian use of 211 for
> 'interactive voice/information services' for the blind and
<snip>
> become a 'commercialized PAY-PAY-PAY-per-call' service. At least the
> CRTC, Industry-Canada, etc. have prevented COCOTS and AOSlime from

At least there *aren't* COCOTs in Canada!  Most COCOTs use 211 for
refund/repair!

> and Business Office have been becoming toll-free seven-digit or
> 800/888 ten-digit numbers; any PAY-per-call numbers should be

PacBell uses the "811" prefix for the telco business office, etc.  Why
not establish a standard prefix for telco business office/repair/etc.,
and force all telcos to use that standard, instead of having the mess
of 811 [PB]/N11 [independents]/557 [BellSouth]/780 [BellSouth]/800/888
numbers that exist now?

For example:

811-2311  ANAC (derived from 311, used in many DMS switches for ANAC)
811-2611  repair (derived from 611)
811-2411  optional, for local DA or reverse-search service (411)
811-2000  residential customer service
etc.

> with such *XX/11XX codes. Even local directory, repair, business
> office could become something like *411/11411, *611/11611, *811/11811

At least with *61x and *81x, these run right up against the
established "call selector" codes.

> in the future. This is similar to the cellular's uses of *XXX-send
> codes. All N11 codes (except for 911) could then be available for POTS

Cellular switches aren't as bound to 10-digit/*xx [fixed-length-number] 
translations as landline switches are.  For example, in various
cellular systems, there are all sorts of * codes of varying lengths:

*data  modem pool (more or less standard code)
*help  road service (GTE Mobilnet Chattanooga and other cities)
*18    activate follow-me roaming (B-side carriers)
*350   activate NACN (A-side carriers)
*phone automated phone users guide (GTE Mobilnet Tampa) etc.

The SEND key acts as a "number terminator", so requiring timeouts,
etc.  is not an issue on cellular.

Implementing new "standard" * codes, at least in the *5x-*8x range,
would result in disrupting codes for CLASS and other optional
services; I don't know that varying-length * codes could be
implemented well in a landline environment, as timeouts, the # key,
etc. would have to be used to signal the end of the number!  (If all
codes were a SINGLE length, this would not be an issue.)

Instead of using *6x/*8x for CLASS services, something like this could
be used:

*441 =3D activate feature
*440 =3D deactivate feature

Just opening the two-digit *xx dialing pattern to *xxx would allow for
10 times (if 0 and 1 are allowed as leading digits, no reason I can
think of not to) more numbers in the same space.

(The "end-with-0-to-deactivate-or-activate" convention is common in the
cellular network.  For example, some carriers use *73 to activate
no-answer transfer, and *730 to deactivate it.  NACN uses the reverse
[*35 to DEACTIVATE NACN call delivery, *350 to activate], which I have
never figured out.  Since the issue here is varying-length numbers, use
*731 for activation of the feature.)

> seven-digit assignments in POTS NPA's (N11-xxxx). 911 would remain
> 'sacred' as a three-digit code, although it too could also be

I don't think 911 can *ever* be reclaimed for *any* purpose.  The
implementation of 112 as a "permissible" dialing code for 911, at
least from GSM PCS (to allow GSM users from abroad, using their SIM
card in a North American GSM phone, to use the same code for an
"emergency" number), should be considered.  (Are any of the US GSM
systems allowing 112 as an alternate for 911 now?)


  Stanley Cline (Roamer1 on IRC) ** GO BRAVES!  GO VOLS!
 mailto:roamer1@pobox.com  **  http://pobox.com/~roamer1/
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            All opinions are strictly my own!

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Heartline Service SUSPENDED in California!
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:30:11 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


An item from the CPUC I thought you'd ALL find very interesting ...

CONTACT: Kyle DeVine             December 9, 1996   CPUC - 563
         213-897-4225                             (I.96-04-024)

 CPUC ORDERS HEARTLINE AND TNT TO REFUND $600,000 TO CUSTOMERS
        FOR SLAMMING AND SUSPENDS SERVICE FOR 40 MONTHS

    The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) today approved a
settlement proposed by its Consumer Services Division (CSD), Heartline
Communications, Inc. (Heartline) and Total National Telecommunications,
Inc. (TNT) which settles the CPUC investigation of allegations that
Heartline and TNT switched consumers to their long distance service
without consumers' consent - a practice known as slamming.

    Under the terms of the settlement, Heartline and TNT cannot
provide retail long distance service to customers in California for 40
months.  The companies also must offer $600,000 in refunds in the form
of $20 checks to each of the 32,000 California customers who
complained that their long distance service was slammed by TNT or
Heartline.  The agreement lays out a claim process for customers who
claim losses greater than $20.

    Customers that currently have TNT as their long distance service
provider will be notified in the next few months that they will need
to switch to another carrier.  Until they switch, consumers will not
be billed excessive rates by TNT because the company has reduced its
toll rates in California to levels charged by AT&T.

    The CSD initial investigation indicated consumers had been slammed
as a result of signing a sweepstakes entry form.  CSD alleged that
some consumer signatures had been forged.  The investigation also
found that Hispanic neighborhoods were targeted with false offers of
discount long distance service when Heartline and TNT charged
significantly higher rates than the major long distance carriers.

                             -more-

    After reviewing staff's initial investigation in April, the
Commission ordered Heartline and TNT to respond to slamming
allegations in formal hearings and prohibited them from contacting
local exchange companies directly to switch any more customers to
their service.  The Commission also prohibited selling their customer
subscriptions to other entities.

    The Commission approved the settlement because it is reasonable in
light of the whole record, consistent with the law, and in the public
interest.  It settles the investigation without long and expensive
litigation.  It also provides immediate refunds to the 32,000
consumers who called Pacific Bell, GTE of California, or the
Commission to complain that their service had been switched without
their authorization.

                             -###-

John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://www.the-server.com/jcbt2n/lincs/        

------------------------------

From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:49:07 GMT


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you are going to pass along the
> COCOT 'surcharge' to the owner of the 800 number, what do you do in
> cases where an 800 subscriber has a deal with his carrier to pay
> just X cents per minute?

The carrier will probably pass the increase in its costs along, either
to the specific subscriber, or to all of its subscribers.  Remember,
however, that when the carrier became liable for the payphone set use
fee, it also began paying reduced CCL charges, as the LEC payphones
are removed from the rate base.  The carrier will see lower CCL
charges, and increased set use fees ... probably a slight overall
increase in its overhead.

> He says if the carrier is going to surcharge him for calls coming
> from COCOTS, *then do not pass those calls on to him*.

The carrier has the right, under the regulations, to block 800 calls
from payphones.  Note that the regulation is not limited to COCOT
payphones.  Compensation to payphone owners applies to _ALL_ calls
from payphones, regardless of whether the owner is a COCOT provider
or the deregulated payphone business owned by an RBOC.  

> What then prevents the COCOT owner from raising the 'surcharge' to a
> dollar or two dollars, as long as he no longer has to fight with his
> customer to get the money?

The set-use fee is now $45.85 per month regardless of the number of
calls.  As of 9/1/97 it becomes $0.35 per call.  This amount is set by
the FCC.  As of 9/1/98 it becomes the initial deposit amount for local
calls at the payphone.  It is not an arbitrary amount.  A payphone
which imposes an arbitrarily high fee for local coin calls will
probably not stay in business very long!

Jay R. Ashworth (jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us) writes:

> Ok, admittedly, they may have a financially sound motivation for this
> desire, although I'd be _really_ surprised if there was a good
> justification for their not noticing for _13_ years ...

Over the past 13 years, the volume of 800 traffic has increased from
4% of the traffic to 24% of the traffic.  (Why do you think we have
run out of 800 numbers?)  When the users getting a free ride on the
payphone become that high a fraction, they _did_ get noticed.  That it
took this many years to fix the problem is not because nobody noticed
it ... but that governmental action normally proceeds at a rather
stately pace!

> The "rule" I'm discussing is the implied contract that Dave feels that
> he, and his daughter at swim practice, have with "the telephone
> company".  For many, _many_ years, it has been possible to place a
> call to a "so-called" toll-free number, without needing to carry any
> money, and many, _many_ customers have taken advantage of this
> capability.

That has not changed.  The payphone compensation is paid to the
payphone operator (LEC or COCOT-owner) by the carrier, not by the
caller.  There is still no need to carry change to make calls to 800
numbers!


Dave Levenson		Internet: dave@westmark.com
Westmark, Inc.		UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave
Stirling, NJ, USA	Voice: 908 647 0900  Fax: 908 647 6857

------------------------------

From: msb@sq.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 17:39:34 EST
From: msb@sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: $911 Air Ticket
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:39:26 GMT


This item appeared in the Daily Bulletin for November 26 from last
month's North American Bridge Championships tournament.  The Bulletin
is edited by Henry Francis and Brent Manley and can currently be found
under the American Contract Bridge League web site <http://www.acbl.org>. 

    ===========================================================

                    $911 for air ticket?

Mike Aliotta called his travel agency recently to arrange for some
airline tickets.  Even before he could tell the agent where he wanted
to go, the agent told him, "Yes, we can take care of that for you.
The price will be $911.  And please come by now to pick them up."

Aliotta knew something was wrong -- he hadn't said where he was going,
the price was out of sight and they always delivered the tickets to
him.  $911?  He thanked the agent, hung up and quickly dialed 911.

Shortly afterwards the police broke into the travel agency and
arrested the person who was holding the employees at gunpoint and
threatening to dismember them.

       ====================================================

Forwarded here by:
Mark Brader, msb@sq.com, SoftQuad Inc., Toronto

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    Analog Call Cut-Offs on ISDN BRI Line (Mac Aldente)
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    Finally: a Map of the 908->732 Area Code Split (Col. G.L. Sicherman)
    Unheralded Deaths of 1996 - George Oslin (Mike Pollock)
    Re: The Opposition Point of View: FRC on Supreme Court News (Gary Fancher)
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Subject: Indian Government May Rule Out Foreign Broadcasters
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:39:46 PST
From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Reply-To: rishab@dxm.org


The Indian Techonomist: bulletin, December 18, 1996
Copyright (C) 1996 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh. All rights reserved

Indian government may rule out foreign broadcasters

     December 18: "Foreign media tries back door"
     screamed headlines in New Delhi's normally sober
     business dailies last week. Following the headlines
     were a stream of articles over the next several days,
     on the "problem" of the entry of foreign media
     into India - particularly broadcasting - and what
     the government could do about it: legislate, perhaps?

     All India Radio (AIR), which like Doordarshan TV is a
     government monopoly, has been issuing franchises for
     FM radio airspace for the past couple of years to
     private broadcasters. Last week it surfaced that in
     the latest auction for franchises, two bidders, TNE
     Asia and UDD Systems, bid the highest (about $800
     per hour of airtime). They are both believed to be
     indirectly controlled by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

     Mr Murdoch was already in trouble in India. The
     ultimate symbol of foreign media, News Corp was
     granted permission by India's Foreign Investment
     Promotion Board (FIPB) to start a wholly-owned Indian
     subsidiary last month. This company, to be called
     INDCO, would invest in programming and cable networks.
     However, earlier this month, Minister for Information and
     Broadcasting C M Ibrahim objected, and the venture
     is once again delayed - all though another News Corp
     subsidiary for programming, cleared in August, is going
     ahead. In this context, rumours about News Corp control
     of the FM franchisees naturally led to an outcry over a "back
     door" entry.

     India has to open up its huge media market quickly;
     Indians love TV, yet the Bombay slum-dwellers with
     no proper sewage but dish antennas clearly don't
     care for Doordarshan. At the moment, the Indian
     cable business is like American Internet Service
     Providers - totally disorganised and unregulated.
     Some 50,000 cable networks will rake in about $1
     billion in subscriber revenues this year, but none
     of that goes to the satellite channels themselves,
     who are forced by current Indian law to broadcast
     from abroad - even if owned and operated by Indians.

     Till now a new law was needed to open up the market
     - and revenue streams, such as Direct-to-Home (DTH)
     subscriptions. After last week's Murdoch-filled
     headlines, MPs (members of parliament) want the new
     law to control foreigners. The government has been
     sluggish about finalising legislation cutting down 
     regulations - despite a Supreme Court ruling egging 
     it on - but now that any new law could include new 
     restrictions against foreigners, it appears more keen 
     on getting something done.

     The government is now thinking of issuing an order -
     perhaps as early as next week - allowing limited
     private broadcasting, thereby ending the monopoly of
     AIR and Doordarshan, but imposing further controls on
     foreign ownership. This order will be a stop-gap measure
     until comprehensive legislation can pass in Parliament.
     Some of the ideas the government has, such as issuing
     franchises to DTH operators, may be unworkable, as they
     would probably go against last year's Supreme Court ruling
     granting all Indians what is in effect a right to broadcast,
     natural resources such as frequencies permitting.

     In any case, Indians don't let inconvenient rules get in 
     their way: when cable TV was illegal, it was growing at 50% a 
     year.

     For more information, follow the links in the hypertext
     version of this document at http://dxm.org/techonomist/news/

The Indian Techonomist: http://dxm.org/techonomist/news/
Copyright (C) 1996 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@techonomist.dxm.org)
A4/204 Ekta Vihar 9 Indraprastha Extension New Delhi 110092 INDIA
May be distributed electronically provided that this notice is attached

------------------------------

Subject: Parollees and the Net
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:33:12 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Rising computer crime prompts parole rules

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. Parole Commission has approved
restrictions on the use of computers by certain high-risk parolees.

The Justice Department announced Monday that the panel voted this
month to authorize such restrictions as requiring certain parolees to
get prior written approval from the commission before using an
Internet service provider, computerized bulletin board system or any
public or private computer network.

Other restrictions would: prohibit particular parolees from possessing
or using data encryption programs, require some parolees to agree to
unannounced inspection of computers by probation officers, require
some parolees to compile daily logs of computer use or to pay for
equipment to monitor their computer use.

"Unrestricted access to the Internet and other computer online
services can provide sophisticated offenders with new opportunities
for crime and criminal associations," said Edward F. Reilly Jr.,
commission chairman. "We cannot ignore the possibility that such
offenders may be tempted to use computer services to repeat their
crimes."

The commission noted a surge in "how-to" information on child
molestation, hate crime and the illegal use of explosives available on
the Internet and on computer online services.

------------------------------

From: macaroni@ingress.com (Mac Aldente)
Subject: Analog Call Cut-Offs on ISDN BRI Line
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:10:01 -0500
Organization: IngressNet (info@ingress.net)


I have an ISDN BRI line that disconnects all analog (voice, data, fax)
calls every 16 minutes. NOT 16 minutes into the call, but on a NYNEX
16 minute schedule.

The D channel traces are as follows:

 00:02:58.97   4 bytes LAPD     D  NT  C SAPI=0 TEI=97 RR    P/F=1 NR=6
 00:02:58.98   4 bytes LAPD     D  TE  R SAPI=0 TEI=97 RR    P/F=1 NR=9
 00:02:59.15   4 bytes LAPD     D  NT  C SAPI=0 TEI=72 RR    P/F=1 NR=1
 00:02:59.16   4 bytes LAPD     D  TE  R SAPI=0 TEI=72 RR    P/F=1 NR=4
 00:03:27.28   4 bytes LAPD     D  NT  C SAPI=0 TEI=97 RR    P/F=1 NR=6
 00:03:27.29   4 bytes LAPD     D  TE  R SAPI=0 TEI=97 RR    P/F=1 NR=9
 00:03:27.47   4 bytes LAPD     D  NT  C SAPI=0 TEI=72 RR    P/F=1 NR=1
 00:03:27.48   4 bytes LAPD     D  TE  R SAPI=0 TEI=72 RR    P/F=1 NR=4

This causes the cut-off:

 00:03:39.56  14 bytes LAPD     D  NT  C SAPI=0 TEI=97 INFO  P=0   NR=6 NS=9
               10 bytes Northern American
            ----  CR = Dummy PD=Q.931  INFOrmation
     1    1001---- INFORMATION ELEMENT : SHIFT
          ----0--- Shift type          : locking
          -----101 Codeset ident.      : codeset 5
     1    00101010 INFORMATION ELEMENT : Set(05)/Code(2A)
     2    00000100 IE length           : 4 octets
     3    ******** IE Contents         : 80 80 01 50


 00:03:39.58   4 bytes LAPD     D  TE  R SAPI=0 TEI=97 RR    P/F=0 NR=10
 00:03:39.62  14 bytes LAPD     D  NT  C SAPI=0 TEI=72 INFO  P=0   NR=1 NS=4
               10 bytes Northern American
            ----  CR = Dummy PD=Q.931  INFOrmation
     1    1001---- INFORMATION ELEMENT : SHIFT
          ----0--- Shift type          : locking
          -----101 Codeset ident.      : codeset 5
     1    00101010 INFORMATION ELEMENT : Set(05)/Code(2A)
     2    00000100 IE length           : 4 octets
     3    ******** IE Contents         : 80 80 01 50

Any explanations or suggestions would be appreciated. TIA.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:27:46 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: www.webcom.com Site Down Most of Weekend


I heard on the 8:00 am (Eastern Time) hourly Westwood/Mutual/NBC-Radio
news this morning that www.webcom.com was down for about forty hours
this past weekend, due to computer hackers. The news report mentioned
that many commercial and business customers are users of Webcom, and
their pages couldn't be accessed this weekend. The report did mention
that email was able to be sent and received without many problems,
however.

I was wondering why I couldn't access Judith Oppenheimer's
ICB/Callbrand page nor Long Distance Digest this past Saturday. Both
are at the Webcom site. I had thought that either the 'routers' on my
end (or in transit) were having trouble accessing the site, or the
site was brought down temporarily for maintenance. But then I heard
the news report on the radio this morning.

The news report also mentioned that it will be 'virtually impossible'
to determine who 'hacked' into the site and took it out of service. I
would hope that some additional security and tracking measures will be
able to prevent or reduce such activities in the future.

As for the tragedy in New Orleans over the weekend, I was no where
*near* the "Riverwalk" shopping facility, and I heard about it about
an hour later over the hourly national news on CBS Radio. At first, it
was thought that about six people fell into the Mississippi River and
were presumed dead, however later news reports on radio and television
mentioned that about six department store manequins had fallen into
the river from one of the shops in the Riverwalk. So far, there
haven't been any confirmed reports of deaths due to the ship (which
lost all of its power including steering) crashed into the "Riverwalk"
shopping mall. And as of the last local news report I've heard or
read, no known tourists (nor locals) have been reported missing.


MARK J. CUCCIA  PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:  HOME:  (USA)  Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity 5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New Orleans 28  |fwds on no-answr to
Fax:UNiversity 5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail

------------------------------

From: sicherman@lucent.com (Col. G.L. Sicherman)
Subject: Finally: a Map of the 908->732 Area Code Split
Date: 17 Dec 1996 15:23:40 GMT
Organization: Lucent Technologies


In a two-page ad in the Asbury Park Press for 1996-12-17, Bell
Atlantic identifies the exchanges in the area-code splits 201->973 and
908->732.  John Cropper has already published the list for 201->973
here.  I don't think that an authoritative version of the 908->732
split has appeared in the Digest yet.

MOVING FROM 908 (Central New Jersey) TO 732 (East-Central New Jersey):

     202   288   364   442   531   634   747   834   902
     203   290   365   445   532   636   748   836   905
     205   291   366   446   536   639   750   837   906
     206   292   367   447   541   641   751   838   907
     207   293   368   448   542   646   752   839   909
     208   294   370   449   544   650   758   840   910
     214   295   380   450   545   651   760   842   913
     216   296   381   457   548   652   764   843   914
     217   297   382   458   549   656   767   844   915
     219   299   385   460   560   657   770   845   916
     220   302   386   461   562   660   773   846   918
     222   303   387   462   563   661   774   847   919
     223   304   388   463   566   663   775   849   920
     224   307   389   469   567   664   776   853   922
     225   308   390   471   570   667   777   854   928
     227   309   392   472   571   670   779   855   929
     228   312   393   473   572   671   780   857   930
     229   315   394   476   573   679   783   861   932
     235   316   396   477   574   680   785   863   933
     237   318   398   478   576   681   786   864   934
     238   320   402   487   577   683   787   865   935
     239   321   404   488   583   692   792   866   937
     240   323   405   489   585   694   793   867   938
     243   324   406   492   586   695   794   868   939
     244   326   407   493   590   697   796   869   940
     246   327   408   494   591   698   797   870   942
     247   329   409   495   592   699   798   871   943
     248   330   413   499   594   701   799   872   944
     249   331   414   501   599   702   804   873   945
     251   332   415   502   600   706   805   875   946
     254   335   416   503   601   714   807   878   949
     255   336   417   504   602   715   808   880   952
     257   339   418   505   603   716   812   881   954
     258   340   420   506   605   721   814   882   955
     262   341   421   509   606   723   815   883   957
     263   342   422   510   607   726   816   884   968
     264   343   424   513   610   727   817   885   969
     269   345   427   514   613   728   818   886   970
     270   346   428   517   614   737   819   888   972
     271   348   431   519   615   738   821   890   974
     274   349   432   521   616   739   826   892   975
     275   350   433   524   617   741   827   893   980
     278   356   434   525   618   742   828   896   981
     280   357   435   528   627   743   830   897   985
     283   358   438   529   628   744   831   899   988
     286   360   440   530   632   745   833   901   989
     287   363   441

The centrals for these exchanges are:

  Asbury Park        Freehold       Monmouth Junction
  Atlantic Highlands Holmdel        New Brunswick
  Belmar             Jamesburg      Perth Amboy
  Bound Brook        Keansburg      Point Pleasant
  Carteret           Keyport        Rahway
  Deal               Lakehurst      Red Bank
  Dunellen           Lakewood       Seaside Park
  East Millstone     Long Branch    South Amboy
  Eatontown          Manasquan      South River
  Englishtown        Matawan        Spring Lake
  Farmingdale        Metuchen       Toms River
  Franklin Park      Middletown     Woodbridge

According to my Bell Atlantic phone directory, 405 is Unionville.  No
other Unionville exchanges are listed in 732.  I cannot tell whether
this is a minor office on the fringe of Unionville, or just an error.

I was surprised to find on the list almost 100 exchanges that I did
not know about.  Can anybody point me to an online mapping of
exchanges to central offices?


Col. G. L. Sicherman
sicherman@lucent.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:40:42 -0800
From: Mike Pollock <pheel@sprynet.com>
Organization: SJS Entertainment
Subject: Unheralded Deaths of 1996 - George Oslin


By The Associated Press

When George Burns died, a century of mirth-making was rewarded with f
ront-page obituaries and public lamentations.  When George Oslin died,
few marked his passing.  Oslin was not well-known. But long ago, in a
moment of genius, he invented the singing telegram, and the world
became a bit more tuneful.

GEORGE OSLIN

Delivery Hymn of the Singing Telegram
(sung to the tune of ``Battle Hymn of the Republic'')

Mine ears have heard the glory of some singing on the way.
It's that boy from Western Union, and he's got some things to say,
But like Samuel Morse and Edison, it's disappeared today.
Still, the memory lives on.

CHORUS:

Western Union at the door, ma'am.
Bringing you a singing tel'gram.
It'll give you information; it'll brighten up your day.
George Oslin led the way.

He was Western Union's czar of the obscure and the old ways.
He recorded comp'ny history; took down all each had to say.
Then it dawned on him that singing just might help to cheer the day.
Now his memory lives on.

CHORUS:

Western Union at the door, sir.
Our aged hero's met his maker.
He died at 97 down in Florida, they say.
George Oslin led the way.

Today we have the telephone, the Internet, the fax
We communicate so quickly that the telegram seems lax.
But for just one fleeting moment, please, nostalgic let us wax.
For a memory now gone.

CHORUS:

Western Union's almost gone now
Cyberspace has got the know-how.
But remember, long ago, that there was something more fun, ma'am.
The singing telegram.

 -- By Ted Anthony

------------------------------

From: Gary Fancher <gfancher@hpap235.spd.dsccc.com>
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View: My Response
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:30:19 -0600
Organization: DSC Communications Corporation, Plano, Texas USA


Pat,

I would like to extend my appreciation for your well-written essay
concerning the freedom of speech on the Internet, etc.  You started
out with the same premise that we have heard from everyone, and that
is that parents have the ultimate responsibility for what they allow
their children to see and hear.  I have no argument with that
statement since it is obviously correct, but I do think that a little
more support from the community would be very helpful.  I am in the
process of raising four children, and I can tell you from experience
that parenting is not an easy task.  I often find myself wondering if
those who cry out so loudly for the freedom of expression are
themselves trying to raise any children.

When I was a child (in the 50's and 60's), virtually everyone in
society agreed on what was good for us children.  We all knew what was
right from what was wrong, and our teachers, leaders, pastors,
politicians and judges as well as our parents all at least paid lip
service to wanting to point us in the right direction.  I really
believe that the vast majority were sincere in their desires to do
that.  (One might argue that they did not succeed very well, but
that's another story.) We had TV shows like _My_Three_Sons_ and
_Father_ Knows_Best_ (to name just a couple) which reinforced "family
values." Movies like _The Last Picture Show_ were shockers because
they went AGAINST the grain.  Such is no longer the case.  Much of
today's TV, movies and the Internet are still trying to tear down the
conscience that our parents and society instilled in us.

It seems that in these days, the judges, teachers, sometimes the
politicians, and even sometimes the pastors and parents are trying to
show how much freedom we have by declaring everything to be
permissable.  As a result, we parents who are still trying to raise
our children to be good and decent citizens find that WE are the ones
who are going against the grain.  Society no longer upholds what used
to be good high standards.  In fact, there almost seem to be no
standards.  We've thrown out the Ten Commandments, closed the Good
Book, declared God to be dead or at least so ill that He has become
impotent, and even decided in some cases that we are gods
ourselves. (Oops, here I am preaching when I'm really a programmer.)

I am not asking that society raise my children for me - I do not want
to shirk my responsibility, but a little help would be appreciated,
and if I cannot get that, then I beg of society to not fight against
me in my efforts.  Do not think that we (society in general) will be
absolved of any and all responsibility for what will happen if we do
not change course as a society just simply by saying that "it is the
parent's responsibility to raise their children properly."  Do not
forget the saying (before it became a political slur), "It takes a
village to raise a child."  We all have a responsibility to one
another's children if the next generation is going to exceed the grasp
of the current one.

Now I'll get back to programming.  Have a Merry Christmas.


Gary D. Fancher                         E-mail: gfancher@spd.dsccc.com
DSC Communications Corporation                     voice: 972-519-5268
1000 Coit Road, MS 121, Plano, Texas 75075           fax: 972-519-3563

------------------------------

From: craig@rmit.EDU.AU (Craig Macbride)
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View: FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: 17 Dec 1996 20:36:25 GMT
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia.


Clayton E. Cramer <cramer@dlcc.com> writes:

> There are a lot of people out there who have no idea the damage that
> exposure to a group like alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teens would
> do to a child.

The average child will not be interested or even go far enough to
download and decode what's there, but that's not even the point.

The net is a large, easy to access part of the world. You can post
defamatory items and end up in jail, book airline or hotel tickets
that must be paid for, etc. This is not a kiddies' playground. Do you
let a 10 year old borrow the car and do a cross-country trip in it? If
not, you shouldn't be letting them on the net either.

The extremist viewpoint here is that somehow everyone else should be
looking out for the wellbeing of children of inexcuseably stupid
parents, no matter how inconvenient that may be for us all.


Craig Macbride	<craig@rmit.edu.au>	URL: http://www.bf.rmit.edu.au/~craigm

------------------------------

Subject: Connecticut DPUC Gets Slammed
From: Lange@snet.net (Alan Lange)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:00:00 EST


The page 1 headline in the 12/17/96 {Hartford Courant} is:
 
    "States's telephone watchdog finds its own lines crossed."

A couple of nice quotes from the article:

"The latest telephone-line caper under investigation by the state is
either a gutsy crime or a wild mixup.  'It's sort of like pulling an
armed robbery at the police station,' said Thomas Benedict, one of the
state's top telephone regulators.  Benedict ought to know.  The victim
in this case was the state Department of Public Utility Control, which
polices the telephone industry in Connecticut. That would make
Benedict the desk sergeant; he's the commissioner most familiar with
telephone issues."

"Beryl Lyons, a department spokeswoman, described the feeling among
employees at agency headquarters in New Britain: 'They did WHAT??? ...
Excuse me, we're the DPUC, and we got slammed?' " 

It seems that 6 of the department's 14 lines got moved from MCI to
Wiltel. SNET confirmed that the lines had been moved last week after
Wiltel made the request.

For the time being the whole article is at:
http://news.courant.com/article/biz1.stm


Alan Lange
Lange@snet.net

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    Re: The Opposition Point of View: FRC on Supreme Court News (Martin Baines)
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:52:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: How Business Almost Derailed the Net
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


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 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:09:40 -0800 (PST)
 From: Nathan Newman <newman@garnet.berkeley.edu>
 Subject: [ENODE] How Business Almost Rerailed the Net


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       HOW PRIVATE BUSINESS ALMOST DERAILED THE INTERNET
           ...AND HOW THEY STILL MAY

           -- by Nathan Newman, Progressive Communications,
                   newman@garnet.berkeley.edu

     
     In a remarkable turn of societal imagination, many conservatives
have begun picturing the computer age as the rejuvenation of
small-scale entrepreneurial capitalism against the institutions of the
nation state.  Whether it's Alvin Toffler "quantum revolution" or Newt
Gingrich promoting decentralization of economic decision-making to
local regions, there has been a steady stream of conservative analysis
making the case that new technology has made government's role,
especially the federal government's role, irrelevant and even
dangerous to the healthy functioning of the economy.

     Even THE ECONOMIST, a magazine with an early enthusiasm for the
Internet and usually a somewhat more balanced eye, has described the
success of the Internet as the "triumph of the free market over
central planning. Democracy over dictatorship."  The new conservative
view has been that the private sector is the font of technological and
economic innovation.  The federal government should get out of the way
and leave economic development to the private sector, maybe
occasionally working with local governments promoting innovation and
job creation locally.

     What is repressed in this bit of economic myth making is not only
the key role the federal government played in each step of the growth
of the computer industry, and, to an even larger extent, in the birth
and formation of the Internet, but also the fact that left to private
industry, much of the computer technology would never have come to
market and, in the case of the Internet, the result would have been
less innovative and less of an economic engine for growth.  In fact,
it's unclear that the hallmark of the federally-created Internet would
have even occurred out of the private visions and competition of
industry.

     The Internet is in many ways the product of central planning in
its rawest form: planning over decades, large government subsidies
directed from a national headquarters, and experts designing and
overseeing the project's development.  The government not only created
whole new technologies to make the Internet a possibility, it created
the standards for forms of economic exchange of information that had
never been possible before.

     The comparison has been at times to the interstate highway system
but the analogy would hold only if employees of the federal government
had first imagined the possibility of cars, subsidized the invention
of the auto industry, invented the technology of concrete and tar, and
built the whole system with only a few stray dirt roads existing
anywhere on the assumption that private industry would build along.

     It's worth remembering that the headlines just a few years back
in 1993 about the Information Superhighway were not over the Internet
and software companies like Netscape but about mergers and financial
deals between those who controlled the cables to the home, on the
assumption that those who monopolized control of the physical hardware
connecting homes and business would reap monopoly profits in selling
information services.  As Fortune magazine described the ultimately
unsuccessful merger of TCI cable and Bell Atlantic telephone back in
1993, "It was the bold stroke of two captains of industry bent on
securing their share of whatever booty washes ashore when the
interactive age finally arrives ... When the dust settles, there will
probably be eight to ten major operators on the highway, some earning
their way mainly by collecting tolls for the use of their networks."

     In many ways, this private vision harked back not to the original
federal highway system but to the first transit system that
criss-crossed the nation's land -- the railroads.  And in fact, that
historical legacy gives some sense of what a privately designed system
would have looked like.  In the 1840s and 1850s, the first large
railways were built, usually with incompatible track widths where
trains entering the same city could not switch directly to another
company's rail track. This was not accidental but a deliberate
strategy by merchants sponsoring one railroad to avoid having another
company (usually sponsored by merchants in a the gauges of different
train companies were all standardized and freight could be easily
transferred from line-to-line for longer distances. Even as such
standardization was achieved by the 1880s, giant railroad companies
sought to create competing railway systems that could control enough
territory to control the flow and pricing of significant portions of
freight against competing systems, becoming the first major
oligopolies in the US economy.

     Later columns of ENODE will talk about some broad ways the
federal government contributed to the creation of the Internet, but
this month I just want to emphasize a number of cases where the
private sector either missed where the technology needed to go, or,
worse yet, came close to derailing the publicly funded Internet
system.

     In the early sixties, researcher Paul Baran had begun planning
how to build the technology necessary for the goal of networking
computers. Baran worked at Rand Corporation, a research company setup
to monitor and preserve the US government's operations research
capability.  Worried about the survivability of US communication
networks in the case of nuclear war, Baran envisioned the movement
from analog telephone signals to digital signals that could perform in
a networked system of digital transmission.  Instead of a central
switching node where the whole wire between two points would be
reserved specifically for the sound signals of a specific
conversation, such a system would be a "distributed network" with each
node connected to its nearest neighbors in a string of connections,
much like the child's game of telephone.  Allowing fuller use of all
lines in the network instead of holding lines open from end-to-end for
each message, such a system would have each node would keep track of
the fastest route to each destination on the network (and be
constantly updated with information from adjoining nodes) and
help route information without need of central direction.

     RAND was enthusiastic about Baran's ideas but when AT&T was
approached about its feasibility, AT&T executives dismissed the idea
and even refused to share information on their long distance circuit
maps -- Baran had to purloin a copy to evaluate his ideas which he and
RAND were convinced were right.  Based on RAND's recommendation, the
Air Force directly asked AT&T to build such a network but AT&T still
refused saying it wouldn't work (except for a faction of scientists at
Bell Labs).  This may have been technical myopia by the
business-oriented executives, but it was an economically
self-interested myopia.  Such a distributed network threatened (and
today does threaten) the central economic assets of the telephone
industry: central computers and central switches. It highlights the
fact that corporate research labs, the main alternative to long-term
government funding of technological alternatives, rarely if ever
invest in fundamental technology that will likely undermine the
natural economic monopolies they currently enjoy.

     In the meantime, British physicist Donald Davies had begun
promoting a similar idea of a computer network with "packets" of
information.  He soon learned of Baran's similar ideas and was
encouraged enough to get support by the British Post Office, notably a
state run agency which ran the telephone system in Britain.  In 1968,
the first computer distributed network was established on computers
located at the National Physical Laboratory where Davies worked.

     It was at the US military's Advanced Research Projects Agency
(ARPA) that distributed computing would be taken to the next
level. Larry Roberts, a researcher from the military-funded Lincoln
Labs at MIT, was hired to work on the computer networking project.
Starting out at four west cost sites: UCLA, UC Santa Barbara,
University of Utah, and the Stanford Research Institute, the plan was
to install a new computer at each site as part of the network.

     In 1968, ARPA advertised the bid for building the specialized
computers to be used to run the network.  IBM and other big computer
companies declined even to make a bid, saying it wasn't possible at a
reasonable price.  Again, like AT&T, this was partially the myopia of
those grounded in older technology but it was also a self-interested
economic fear of the new timesharing minicomputer technology (itself
recently heavily funded by ARPA) that was challenging the dominance of
companies like IBM.  They rightly feared that networking would make
many government agencies and businesses rethink the need to actually
own their own mainframe computer.

     In the end, the small (600 employees) consulting firm of Bolt
Beranek and Newman (BBN) did the work.  BBN was intimately tied to MIT
and it was sometimes called the "third university" in Cambridge.  With
the promise of a large government contract and the top technical
talent of mostly MIT graduate students, BBN was able to take on a task
that only a large company could have done without such a government
contract.  By October 1969, the network connection between SRI and
UCLA was established and within months, all four nodes were on-line.
By the time the network was demonstrated publicly for the first time
at the International Conference on Computer Communications in October
1972, there were twenty-nine "nodes" in the network (dubbed at this
point ARPANET) clustered in four areas: Boston, DC, Los Angeles and
San Francisco.  What would evolve into the Internet had been born.

     Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, ARPA would build a national
community of public-minded experts who helped shepherd open Internet
standards that would radically expand the network to a wide range of
users.  In doing so, it was clear that the public- spirited
professional norms promoted by ARPA and the community of researchers
was critical in keeping individual profit-taking from undermining that
openness.  In 1973, ARPA's networking head Larry Roberts was hired by
BBN to run a private packet switching network subsidiary called
TELENET (which would evolve into SprintNet).  In coming to BBN,
Roberts carefully deflected a bid by BBN to take over the ARPANET
privately.  And his ARPA successor J.C.R. Licklider, a key researcher
in building the ARPAnet and one-time BBN employee, was faced with his
old employer BBN refusing to publish the original computer code for
the networking computer routers they had designed, while at the same
time becoming more and more reluctant to fix software bugs on the
ARPANET.  Licklider, in the name of the openness of the Net,
threatened to hold up BBN's federal contract funds unless they
released the code publicly.  BBN published the code, enhancing the
tradition of open codes in the development of standards.

     Ironically, as networks spread in the 1980s, it was the
government experts at ARPA and universities who backed the flexible,
tested TCP/IP protocol, while big private companies like MCI, IBM and
Hewlett Packard adopted an untested, bureaucratically inspired
standard created in international committees called OSI.  Vincent
Cerf, the creator of the TCP/IP system who is now a Vice-President at
MCI, had been hired in 1983 to build MCI's message networking system
and he remembers, "So I had to build MCI Mail out of a dog's breakfast
of protocols."

It was only with the technical dominance of the Internet that 
most private industry would convert over to the public TCP/IP 
protocol.

     The other key thing to understand is the government's role in
being the source of much of the commercial business explosion in
Internet-related business.  This goes beyond merely creating the
Internet itself but to directly being the source of the energy that
the private sector is directing to this area of economic innovation.
Mitch Kapor, the founder of the software company Lotus, has argued,
"Encouraged by its successor, the rapidly expanding
government/academic [Internet], the commercial internet ... represents
the natural development and expansion of a successful government
enterprise."

     The political economist Karl Polanyi argued half a century ago
that "The road to the free market was opened and kept open by the
enormous increase in continuous, centrally organized and controlled
interventionism."  The reality is that the Internet is no accident but
neither was it a technological inevitability.  It was the product of a
US federal government, in association with other nation's experts,
guiding its evolution, in demanding that its standards be open and in
the public domain, and that its reach be extended broadly enough to
overwhelm the proprietary corporate competitors.

     It is under such an open system that small companies can create
Internet-related software products and know that they will be
compatible with other products given the pervasiveness of the
standards.  The fate of the companies that were building Microsoft's
proprietary network -- dropped by Microsoft and left with a useless
set of products when Microsoft switched to Internet standards -- shows
the shadow life of companies that depend on the whims of corporate
standards.  The open standards of the Internet and the easy
distribution of products assures that new companies have the ability
to at least attempt to take on established players without having the
technology itself used as a block against them.

     This is critical for a whole range of information-based
industries that Stanford economist Brian Arthur has argued are
governed by the law of increasing returns for investment.  The
argument (which Arthur submitted as part of a legal brief to the
Justice Department against Microsoft's original proprietary system and
its incorporation into its Windows 95 operating system) is that
because of a range of built-in advantages for early innovators,
companies that attain initial control of a market have a massive
advantage over latecomers.  Because business customers for software
demand compatibility with other products they use and because they
have to invest training time to use the initial product, those
customers are often reluctant to change products, so early entrants to
a market often have an overwhelming advantage in holding onto their
market dominance.  By assuring a degree of compatibility of all
programs and cutting distribution costs, the Internet mediates against
the worst monopoly effects of this increasing returns effect.

     This privatization of the Internet threatens further evolution of
the Internet.  This extends from the coordination of networking to
avoid capacity overload to the danger that standards and protocol
design are being shaped more and more to commercial needs.  While the
overall compatibility of systems through the IP protocol is unlikely
to be undermined in the near term, related standards such as Web
browsers are being increasingly designed with commercial interests in
mind.  When Netscape or Microsoft design their browsers, they are
marketing not to individual users (who generally receive the browsers
for free) but to the purchasers of related software that depend on the
standards determined by the browsers.  If the base of a particular
broser standard is high enough, corporations will buy particular
server software from the producer of that standard browser so that
consumers can access the bells and whistles associated with that brand
of browser. This is in many ways analogous to broadcast television
where stations sell "audiences" to advertisers.  This is a recipe for
concentration of standards in few hands, since the federal government
has largely bowed out of intervention to assure broad participation in
the design of standards for the Web.

     What is worth emphasizing is that the federal government did a
very good job for twenty-five years in designing and guiding the
standards and development of the Internet.  Putting some regulatory
teeth back into government standards committees is an infinitely
preferable alternative to letting Microsoft's or Netscape's corporate
strateges in selling server software to other companies determine the
standards with which the rest of us have to live.

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From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: 920 Announced for Wisconsin
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:42:05 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


 From Action 2 News in Green Bay:

Northeast Wisconsin's New Area Code Announced 

A public education campaign will soon get underway to promote a new
area code for Northeast Wisconsin. Because of a growing number of
telephone numbers, including cellular phones, fax machines, pagers,
and computer modems, Wisconsin is quickly outgrowing the 414 area
code.

Starting July 26, 1997, callers can use both the old 414 area code and
the new area code -- 920. After October 25, 1997, use of the 920 area
code will be required.

The 920 area code covers all or part of 20 counties in Wisconsin: 
(Areas based on map provided by telecommunications companies) 

Brown
Oconto (southeast half)
Shawano (far eastern quarter)
Marinette (southcentral portion)
Door
Kewaunee
Outagamie (all but northwest corner)
Waupaca (eastern third)
Winnebago
Calumet
Manitowoc
Sheboygan
Waushara
Green Lake (all but far southwestern corner)
Marquette (far northeast corner)
Fond du Lac
Columbia (eastern third)
Dodge
Jefferson (all but far western portion and southeastern corner)
Washington (far northwestern corner)
Ozaukee (far northern portion)
Waukesha (far northwestern corner)


Customers with questions about the plan can contact the area code
information hotline at: 1-800-378-2222 . 


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://www.the-server.com/jcbt2n/lincs/        

------------------------------

From: Steve Sullivan <srsullivan@ftel.net>
Subject: Fixed Rate National 800 Service
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:50:58 -0800
Organization: Fishnet Internet Services


Pardon the post but I am looking for a list of ISPs and other service
providers that would benefit from a fixed monthly rate 800 service.
There are no per minute charges or hourly charges.  This would allow
an ISP to become a national provider with a national 800 number.  The
service allows for up to 4000 concurrent users.

If you are interested and would like more information or know of how to 
contact ISPs please respond to on of the locations below.

Thanks in Advance.


Steve Sullivan
Franklin Internet
steves@ftel.net

------------------------------

From: Martin Baines <martinb@reading.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: The Opposition Point of View: FRC on Supreme Court News
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:08:19 +0000
Organization: Silicon Graphics


Craig Macbride wrote:

> Clayton E. Cramer <cramer@dlcc.com> writes:

>> There are a lot of people out there who have no idea the damage that
>> exposure to a group like alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teens would
>> do to a child.

> The average child will not be interested or even go far enough to
> download and decode what's there, but that's not even the point.

> The net is a large, easy to access part of the world. You can post
> defamatory items and end up in jail, book airline or hotel tickets
> that must be paid for, etc. This is not a kiddies' playground. Do you
> let a 10 year old borrow the car and do a cross-country trip in it? If
> not, you shouldn't be letting them on the net either.

> The extremist viewpoint here is that somehow everyone else should be
> looking out for the wellbeing of children of inexcuseably stupid
> parents, no matter how inconvenient that may be for us all.

Something that occured to me recently -- the issue of parental
responsibility ties in with issues like how we price access to the
Internet. E.g. if the marginal telecoms costs for Internet access are
effectively zero (i.e locals calls are free), there is no financial
incentive for parents to even consider installing another line for
their kids exclusive use. I know of several cases here in the UK,
where parents have stopped their kids using the Internet because of
the huge increase in their phone bill. It may not be the ideal way of
"helping" parents act responsibly, but it's better than nothing.

In an ideal world everyone would do the right thing, but we don't live
in an ideal world!

I completely agree with Clive Feather's earlier post about control of
Internet content, but as Clive is part of the management of the UK's
largest ISP he should have good insight!


Martin Baines - Telecommunications Market Consultant
Silicon Graphics, Arlington Business Park, Reading, RG7 4SB, UK

email:  martinb@reading.sgi.com     SGI vmail:  6-788-7842
phone:  +44 118 925 7842 fax: +44 118 925 7545
URL:    http://reality.sgi.com/martinb_reading/
Silicon Surf: http://www.sgi.com/International/UK/

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 96 07:25 PST
From: Scott Hemphill <hemphill@worldaccess.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! Ultimate Chain Letter


   __FORWARD_

Heh heh heh
The ultimate in get-rich-quick schemes!
Subject: Humor(G): Ultimate Chain Letter
Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:41 AM
 
      Hi, my name is Aloysius. Five years ago I had no money.  People
wanted me to pay for services that I had used, yet I had no funds to
pay them with.

     Then an amazing thing happened!  A friend of mine told me about a
place where people get together for about 8 hours at a time.  While
together, these `employees' provide services, build things, add value
to things, and even manage the activities of others.  All this is done
in exchange for money, often paid at the completion of 40 hours of
activity.

    My friend told me that if I joined him, the people at this place
would give me money too!  In time, they may even give me lots of
money, and I mean a LOT of money.  Just imagine my joy at being told
of a system that would enable me to pay for all the things I want and
need!

   I was so happy to learn of this system that I set out on a mission.

   There are too many people on the Internet who have not yet
discovered this method of obtaining money.  Instead, these misguided
souls participate in schemes that promise thousands of dollars in
exchange for an illegal five dollar investment.

   If you read any Usenet newsgroup on a regular basis, you know the
people I mean.  They post messages such as: " Big Money NOW ", "Fast
Cash NOW" and " Get out of Debt and into Jail, NOW!"

   These unfortunates must hear this message of great joy and good
fortune:
  
    GET A JOB AND STOP FLOODING THE INTERNET WITH GET RICH QUICK 
    SCHEMES!!!!  

   I invite you to join me in this quest. How?  Simple!  
      
      Whenever someone posts an illegal get-rich-quick-scheme to your
favorite newsgroup, simply E-mail this letter back to them.  An
additional step may be required to deliver the good news to people who
post these messages under phony e-mail addresses.  For them, a hard
copy of this letter to their postal address may be required.  (They
always include a postal address because that's where they want you to
send the BIG MONEY.)
      
      It has also been suggested to me that people may wish to send
this letter to the Sysop or Postmaster of the letter writer's Internet
Service Provider.  I think this is a great idea, and I fully encourage
further suggestions for improving the delivery of this good news!
      
      You have my permission to copy this letter.  Feel free to add
your name to mine and those listed here, (when and if people decide to
add their names to this letter), or remain anonymous and send it as
is.

------------------------------

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    510 Splits to 925 (Tad Cook)
    925 Selected for East Bay Area (John Cropper)
    BellSouth Blows It (Ed Ellers)
    GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Lloyd Matthews)
    Book Review: "The Internet Revealed" (Video) (Rob Slade)
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Subject: 510 Splits to 925
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 14:02:19 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


And the New Number is ... 925; Plan Filed to Split East Bay's 510 Area Code

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 19, 1996--An area code relief
plan has been submitted to the California Public Utilities Commission
that would split the 510 area code in San Francisco's East Bay and
create a new area code -- 925 -- to serve part of that area.

California Code Administrator Bruce Bennett submitted the 510 area
code relief plan on Wednesday to the Commission for review and final
approval. Bennett said the plan is supported by the telecommunications
industry and reflects customer input received during three public
meetings in October.

Introduction of the new 925 area code, which will be California's
19th, is planned for March 14, 1998, and is needed to meet the rapidly
growing demand for additional phone numbers in the 510 area code,
which currently serves Contra Costa and Alameda counties and very
small sections of Solano and San Joaquin counties.

Under the plan, the existing 510 area code would be split using the
east-west topographic boundary of the Oakland Hills. The details are
as follows:

 -- Customers in the existing 510 area code west of the Oakland Hills
would keep the 510 area code. Some of the communities in this area
include: Oakland, Berkeley, Hayward, Fremont, Richmond, Hercules, El
Sobrante, Crockett and Pinole.

 -- Customers in the existing 510 area code east of the Oakland Hills
would receive the new 925 area code and would need to change the area
code portion of their telephone number. Some of the communities in
this area include: Martinez, Concord, Walnut Creek, Orinda, San Ramon,
Moraga, Sunol, Livermore and Pleasanton.

The CPUC is expected to issue a final decision on the 510 area code
relief plan in the next few months. Persons who wish to comment on the
plan may write to the:

California Public Utilities Commission
President P. Gregory Conlon
505 Van Ness Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94102

Bennett said two 510 area code relief options were presented to the
public for comment during meetings in October: a north/south split
that divided the 510 at the Contra Costa and Alameda County lines, and
an east-west split similar to the plan submitted to the CPUC. The
east-west plan was modified to incorporate public comment and input
from elected officials, Bennett said.

`The north/south plan to split along county lines did not receive
strong public support,` he explained. `People told us the county line
divisions were not as significant as the community of interest that
exists between various areas.` Instead, people generally preferred the
east-west plan, with some suggested modification. `We heard concerns
that the east-west plan should leave west Contra Costa County in the
510 due to a strong community of interest between cities there and in
northern Alameda County. We were able to make that adjustment with
little impact on the life of the 510 area code.`

As proposed, the new 925 area code would last about 13 to 16 years,
while the reconfigured 510 would have enough numbers to accommodate
growth through the year 2004, a lifespan of about six years.

While customers who receive the new 925 area code will have to change
the area code portion of their telephone number, the new three-digit
code will not affect the price of telephone calls in any of these
areas, Bennett said. `Call distance determines call price and is not
impacted by the creation of a new area code,` he said. `What is a
local call now will remain a local call regardless of the area code
change.

`It's also important for customers to know that PBX's, private phone
systems, auto-dialers, alarms and other telecommunications equipment
will have to be re-programmed to recognize the new area codes,` said
Bennett, adding that people should check with their equipment vendors
to see if their equipment needs to be reprogrammed. `Historically,
area codes always had either a `1' or a `0' as the middle digit for
identification purposes, but all of those codes have been used.` These
new number combinations allow area codes to be any three digits from
220 to 999, creating an additional 5 billion telephone numbers
nationwide, Bennett said.

Bennett also noted that when the new 925 area code is introduced in
March, 1998, there will be a six-month `permissive` dialing period
during which callers can dial either the old or new area code.

San Francisco's East Bay is the latest in a series of regions in
California requiring area code relief. Today, California has 13 area
codes, more than any other state. Plans call for doubling that number
from 13 to 26 over the next five years to keep up with the state's
record telephone number consumption. That consumption is being spurred
by the high-technology explosion of fax machines, pagers, cellular
phones and modems for Internet access along with the onset of local
competition in California's telephone market. Ten of the 13 new area
codes will be introduced by mid-1998.

Plans for the 510 area code were collectively developed by a
telecommunications industry group representing more than 30 companies,
including Pacific Bell, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, AirTouch, Pagenet, AT&T
Wireless, MFS Communications Co., Teleport Communications Group (TCG),
the California Cable Television Association and others.

CONTACT: Pacific Telesis
John Britton, 415/394-3764

URL: http://www.pactel.com

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: 925 Selected for East Bay Area
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:32:23 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


 ... from Contra Costa media (newspapers)

Published on December 19, 1996 

    Area code east of hills to be 925 

    By GEORGE AVALOS
    Staff writer

    Telephone customers in the East Bay will have
    another number to memorize: 925. 

    That's the new area code planned for most of Contra
    Costa County and a big swath of Alameda County.
    Phone officials Wednesday announced the decision,
    which is necessitated by the huge demand for new
    telephone numbers. It will become California's 19th
    area code when it takes effect in March 1998. 

    The cities and towns west of the East Bay hills that
    are near Interstates 80 and 880 will retain the 510
    code. The communities east of the hills, primarily
    those near Interstate 680 and Highway 4, will receive
    the 925 code, said Bruce Bennett, California code
    administrator. 

    Why are the hills being used as the line of
    demarcation? Economic and social factors, along
    with topography, are among the big reasons. 

    At one point, telephone officials intended to split the
    East Bay along the Alameda-Contra Costa county
    line. But after meetings last month with political
    leaders in West Contra Costa County, they followed
    the hills. 

    The older industrial regions west of the hills would
    keep 510 and the newer suburbs east of the hills
    would get 925. 

    "We found the county line was not as significant a
    factor in preserving a community of interest as the
    actual commuting, social and living habits of the
    population," Bennett said. 

    When the split goes into effect, about 66 percent of
    the East Bay's phone customers will be in the 510
    region, while about 34 percent will be served by the
    new code. Customers who now can make local calls
    in the East Bay will continue to be able to do so,
    even if the call travels between the 510 and 925
    areas. 

    The telephone industry is scrambling to create the
    new number because the region quite literally is
    running out of phone numbers. 

    "The 510 region is in jeopardy," the San
    Ramon-based Bennett said. "It could run out of
    phone numbers before a new plan is implemented."
    At the current rate of consumption, the 510 area will
    exhaust them in the second half of 1998. Plans for
    the new number and the geographic split have been
    submitted to the state Public Utilities Commission. 

    Pacific Bell intends to disclose a new area code for
    the South Bay region currently served by 408
    sometime after Christmas. 

    But it's the East Bay, not Silicon Valley, that's
    California's hottest spot for new phone numbers. For
    the first 11 months of this year, 118 prefixes have
    been added to the 510 roster -- up 24 percent from
    the number for all of 1995. 

    Only 182 prefixes -- roughly 1.8 million phone
    numbers -- are available to be assigned in the 510
    area. About 77 percent are in use today. 

    Rapid expansion 

    The business and population boom in parts of the
    East Bay helped fuel the startling demand for phone
    numbers. But Bennett believes a new trend -- the
    advent of local telephone competition in California --
    has suddenly become an equally crucial factor. 

    About 58 percent, or 68 prefixes, have been
    assigned to companies that are competing against
    Pac Bell. Another 33 percent, or about 40 prefixes,
    were assigned to Pac Bell to meet the demands of its
    own customers. About 8 percent, or roughly 10
    assignments, were for wireless services, such as
    cellular phones or pagers, Bennett estimated. 

    That's a big change from recent years, when new
    technologies helped the East Bay become the state's
    fastest-growing telephone market. 

    "In 1995, about 60 percent of the new prefixes were
    for wireless services," Bennett said. 

    If the East Bay exhausts its remaining prefixes before
    the new area code can be used, officials will ration
    numbers or establish a lottery to assign them. Such a
    system is being used for the 415 code. 

    Still more numbers 

    Officials hope that the 925 code will last 14 to 16
    years. Once the split occurs, the new 510 territory
    will last about six years -- before yet another new
    number is needed west of the hills. 

    "Customer notifications for the new number and split
    will begin immediately," Bennett said. 

    Even after the split, East Bay customers will have a
    grace period before they are mandated to use the
    new code. 

    "We would start with permissive dialing, a six-month
    period when you could call either area code and get
    through," said John Britton, a Pacific Bell
    spokesman. "People will be warned they have to use
    the other area code. Finally, the calls won't go
    through unless they dial the area code." 


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://www.the-server.com/jcbt2n/lincs/        

------------------------------

From: Ed Ellers <edellers@mis.net>
Subject: BellSouth Blows It
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:24:53 -0500
Organization: Mikrotec Internet Services, Inc. (MISNet)


Last month I posted a note questioning the wisdom of junking a
13-year-old 1A ESS switch.  As planned, BellSouth cut over the new
5ESS-2000 in the wee hours on December 7, and I'm sorry to say that
the results -- at least as far as I'm concerned -- have so far been
disastrous.

I stayed up late that night, partly to see what would happen when the
new switch went in, and as luck would have it the cutover crew pulled
my line while I was connected to my ISP, Mikrotec.  Oh well, they had
to do it some time -- they couldn't sit around waiting for *everyone*
to hang up.  I have been getting consistent connections to this firm
at 26,400 bps (with *one* good 28,800 bps connection) ever since I
switched to them over a year ago; my connections to CompuServe's local
node have also been at 26,400 bps since I got my V.34 modem in April
1995, and I had found that I could get consistent 28,800 bps
connections to (800) 793-6675 -- this is the number Microsoft uses for
ISP referrals, so it does me no good at all but *did* prove that my
modem and my local loop were up to the task.

It took an hour after this cutover before I could call the ISP, or
anyone else outside my neighborhood, since they apparently cut over
the subscriber lines first and then the interoffice trunks.  When I
could again call Mikrotec, I found that I could only get through at
24,000 bps!  The same happened on CompuServe, and even on that
Microsoft 800 number.  What was even worse, when I tried BellSouth.net
(the RBOC's own ISP) I could only connect at 21,600 bps.

Since I figure that the cutover crew had to move smartly, I decided to
give BellSouth and Lucent a few days to tweak things before reporting
the problem, which I finally did on Friday, the 13th.  (Great day for
it, hmmm?)  The rep told me that the problem would be fixed by 8 pm on
Saturday.  On Saturday afternoon I got an *automated* call to say that
my service had been restored, and asking me to press 1 or 2 to
indicate whether or not I was satisfied; since at this point I
hadn't tried a modem call I pressed 2 for 'no,' just in case.
I tried the modem, found that I was still connecting at only 24,000
bps, and called repair service back to say that the job was not done.
They then said that they'd have it fixed by 5 pm Sunday.

On Monday a technician showed up to work on the lines outside the
house; I was at work, but he told my mother that they had found, and
fixed, a bad splice somewhere in the line.  Yesterday they were back
and installed a new drop to my house, complete with a new 'demarc'
box, even though I had explained that the problem was caused by the
new 5ESS-2000 switch!  Apparently someone had discounted my
description of the problem and sent the outside plant guys out (in the
cold and rain) to work on everything *except* the CO.

On Tuesday afternoon I noticed a slight improvement in my modem
connections -- Mikrotec and CompuServe were still managing only 24,000
bps, but that Microsoft 800 number was up to 26,400 bps.  Unfortunately,
that night we got a *lot* of noise on the line, so much that I couldn't
hear what the other party was saying, and for a while the line was
completely dead.  It came back later that night but was still noisy on
Wednesday morning; as of 9:45 Wednesday night it was completely dead,
and the best 'repair' could promise was that it would be back on by noon
Thursday.  They did get it fixed just before 9 am today, and it does
seem to have been the fault of the newly installed drop, but I still
can't connect at any speed faster than 24,000 bps.  I called BellSouth
management to complain about the problem; they promised a call back (to
my work number) later today, and someone did call back after I'd left
for the day.  I'll let everyone know what I find out tomorrow morning.

It seems to me that when someone reports a problem as being related to
changes the telco has made, they should assume that the problem is
related to what they did, but instead this sad bunch seems to think
that I'm the twin brother of the Connecticut man who allegedly
called 911 twenty-five times in a row to report a toothache! (It's
said that he was arrested for cussing out the dispatchers; the police
naturally offered him his 'one phone call,' and instead of
calling a lawyer he called 911 and started cussing the dispatcher
again.)

I used to think that BellSouth was a better-than-average LEC, but at
this point when true facilities-based competition does arrive it
won't be a moment too soon for me.


------------------------------

From: Lloyd Matthews <lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com>
Subject: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:17:20 +0000
Organization: TRW-SIG Sunnyvale
Reply-To: lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com


Hi -

I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
DC.  You'd think they'd go with the majority standard so they could
collect roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will only
work with PacBell's system?

The odd thing is that something is weakly pinging my phone in San Jose
and giving me a No Access message. I can't figure out who the carrier
might be, since Pac Bell isn't officially up yet in NoCal and they're
supposedly incompatible anyway.

How can I find out exactly which GSM systems worldwide use the GH388,
and who the mystery carrier is in San Jose? And what's the point of a
worldwide standard like GSM if everybody has a different, incompatible
implementation?


 -- A frustrated non-user of Sprint Spectrum's "nationwide"
service...which will be CDMA everywhere except DC..and the GSM
"worldwide" standard... Lloyd Matthews (Lloyd.Matthews@trw.com)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:30:38 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The Internet Revealed" (Video)


VDINTRVL.RVW   960917
 
"The Internet Revealed", Gregory Giagnocavo/Tim McLain, 1995,
0-932577-24-5/-23-7/-22-9/-10-5, U$150.00
%A   Gregory Giagnocavo
%A   Tim McLain
%C   1866 Colonial Village Lane, PO Box 10488, Landcaster, PA   17605-0488
%D   1995
%G   0-932577-24-5/-23-7/-22-9/-10-5
%I   Wentworth Worldwide Media
%O   U$150.00 800-638-1639 fax 717-393-5752 success@wentworth.com
%P   3 hr (approx.)
%T   "The Internet Revealed"
 
A video tape, by its nature, has difficulty in conveying the accuracy
and detail of information that a book can.  A video is also not suited
to reference type material.  A video is good for a presentation of
highly graphical (but not highly resolved) material and the inclusion
of audio content.  Popular theory states that video is good for highly
motivating, though perhaps superficial, introductory courses.
 
Tape one is the usual gee whiz ad for the Internet.  Tape two give a
brief introduction to email (using Eudora).  Tape three looks at some
search tools.  Tape four shows you how to point the pointer at an
underlined word in blue until it changes to a hand and then click.  It
also gives you a fairly good introduction to Netscape and, if you are
using Netscape, the second half of tape four may be the most useful
part of the package.
 
It's hard to review a video tape curled up in a corner, so my wife saw
a good bit of this.  Her response was that it was very boring, and she
didn't know how I stayed awake through the whole four tapes.
 
I can't really argue with that.  The presentation is the standard
talking head and screen shots.  The screen shots, of course, lose a
lot in clarity and readability.  The organization fo the material
could be a lot better, with many functions being described before you
get to the reason you might want to use them, and some others being
required before there is an explanation of how to use them.  The
content is highly system, and even program, specific, which is
particularly unfortunate in the tape on search tools.  In an effort to
add some pizazz to the presentation, there are annoying special
effects, such as silly themes and threads, cartoon characters that
bounce onto the screen and definitions that race in from the side and
(literally) screech to a halt.  And, although there are some few handy
tips that are seldom covered in the run of Internet books, the
material is superficial.
 
So popular theory is partly right, after all.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   VDINTRVL.RVW   960917  Distribution
permitted in TELECO Digest and associated publications.


roberts@decus.ca             rslade@vcn.bc.ca             rslade@absolute.com
           I have seen progress in an egg.  It's called "going bad."
Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94663-2 (800-SPRINGER)

------------------------------

From: David Scott Lewis <thewebguy@acm.org>
Subject: Web TV: Another Challenge to the Dataquest Survey
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:18:42 -0800
Organization: Strategies & Technologies, Inc. (STI)


First, please read this posting with a sense of humor.

Second, I need to make a legal disclaimer: My comments are based upon
inputs from a reliable source.  However, I have NOT been privy to the
actual survey questions put forth by Dataquest.

With that said, I'll continue.

It is my understanding that Dataquest asked the following type of
question to Jane and John Q. Public: "Are you interested in accessing
the Internet through your set-top box?"

If Dataquest really asked such a goofy question, when Mr/s. Public
don't even know what a "set-top box" is, then they should have
expected overwhelmingly negative responses.

Here are the type of questions they should have asked (remember, keep
your sense of humor!):

1) Do you consider yourself a religious or spiritual person?  If your
answer is "no", please proceed to Question #3.

2. Would you like to hear prayers, scripture readings or meditations
anytime of the day or night through your television?  For example,
would you like to hear a blessing by the Pope, an uplifting scriptural
reading by Max Lucado, sayings of Muhammad, thoughts in solitude by
Thomas Merton, Zen verse by Basho and Natsume Soseki, lessons in
simplicity by Elaine St. James, essays on love by Rabbi Harold
Kushner, "street" wisdom by Rev. Tony Evans, or meditations by Sisten
Wendy Beckett -- at anytime -- through your TV?

(NOTE: Saying "on-demand" instead of "anytime of the day or night"
might confuse Mr/s. Public, even though that's a more linguistically
appropriate phrase.)

THANK YOU FOR COMPLETING THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.

3) Would you like to see pictures of scantly clad women (or naked
bodies in general!) at anytime of the day or night?

THANK YOU FOR COMPLETING THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.

Boy, I'll bet Dataquest would have had a much, much different
response!  :-)

Of course, it's possible to answer "yes" to questions #2 and #3, but
an affirmative answer to at least one question is sufficient.  And why
not throw Christian and Gospel music "on-demand" into question #2;
both are very popular.

Matter of fact, why not ask a separate question on musical genres of
all types?

Anyway, you get my point.  Mr/s. public couldn't care less about what
we talk about in Online-News, comp.infosystems.www.*,
comp.dcom.telecom, or comp.multimedia.  But why should they?

The 'Net to date has been a playground for the intelligentsia and
illuminati.  But offerings by WebTV, Sony, Philips, Bandai and many
others to follow, will expand the scope of the Internet to include
EVERYONE.  IMHO, that's a good thing.  Give people the freedom to use
the 'Net as they choose; don't force feed them dribble on how to write
better Java code (which is an admirable feat, but not at all relevant
to Mr/s. Public).

And remember, with WebTV your kids get their own "home page" with
Yahooligans!, National Geographic Online, the Discovery Channel, and
other features fit, targeted and appropriate for children.  With the
Sega unit they can play games and use any ISP.  Fortunately, the
offerings that already exist fit the needs of key market segments.  If
you're a Sega family, you may want the Sega unit.  If you want to give
a unit to your parents, WebTV is a great choice.  (BTW, it _might_ be
possible to use the Sega unit with WebTV as your ISP; if it isn't,
it's something they should work on.  Ditto for Bandai and WebTV.  And
I'll bet that GI and SA are making their newgen set-top boxes with
optional PPP connectivity.)  Frankly, Dataquest, Forrester and Web
Week just don't get it.  I pity those with such an obvious lack of
vision.  Stop chastising version 1.0 systems.  (BTW, was the Apple I
or Windows 1.0 a success?).  Instead, look at the possibilities,
especially with push technologies -- from Catanet and its cool Bongo
development tool (courtesy of the hottest Internet company, Marimba)
to the Enliven suite to the joys of Communicator and Constellation.
(FYI, Communicator should be in beta by next week, albeit without
Constellation.)

Let's not forget that the Internet was developed in large part by
funding from the U.S. government ... and paid for by ALL
U.S. taxpayers, not just those with advanced degrees.  I'm not asking
for subsidies for Mr/s. Public; however, they shouldn't (and won't) be
denied content that they want.  What's on the Web circa December 1996
will bore the living daylights out of Mr/s. Public.  However, WebTV
and its cousins will bring about whole new opportunities for
developing content ... and create an abundance of global
entrepreneurial opportunities.  Perhaps this is the real beauty of
WebTV.

For previous musings, go to:
http://www.gina.com/wire/tn/tn960835.htm  AND
http://www.social.com/social/hypermail/news/index.html


David Scott Lewis
Strategies & Technologies -- The Internet Marketing Consultancy
thewebguy@acm.org

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    510/925 Split: My Reaction (Linc Madison)
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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: 510/925 Split: My Reaction
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:44:16 -0800


Well, I've seen the various public announcements about the new area
code for the East Bay area of northern California, and I have a few
thoughts.

We got a bit spoiled the last time we had an area code split in this
area, the original 415/510 split back in 1991.  You could hardly
imagine a more perfect split, even for a textbook example.  The
dividing line between 415 and 510 was simple, straightforward, and
geographically meaningful.  It was easy to explain to both locals and
non-locals, with no ambiguity about which side of the line a given
community landed on.  What's more, the split in terms of prefixes was
almost exactly 50/50, a point reflected in the fact that the two
offspring of that split are both splitting within a few months of each
other.

The new split for 510 does pretty well on the geographic side of
things, but not nearly so well on the prefix level.  Only about 1/3 of
the prefixes are being shifted, even though the new area code has the
majority of the land area by about the same 2:1 margin.

The "north/south" proposal, to follow the Alameda/Contra Costa county
line, received little public support, and was wisely abandoned.
Indeed, I think the county line should be redrawn to reflect the lines
now being used for the area code split, but of course, that will never
happen.  The line as it is now constituted divides along a major
natural geographic boundary, the East Bay Hills.  The hills don't form
quite as dramatic a boundary as the Bay itself, but it's as natural a
line as you can draw in 510.  It's reasonably straightforward and easy
to explain to both locals and non-locals.

As for the prefix imbalance, which results in estimates of 2004 for
510 to exhaust again and 2012 or so for 925 to exhaust, by the time
either of those dates rolls around, we'll just add overlay area codes.
The existing geographic boundary lines will make that pretty sensible.

My only other quibble regards the timing of some of these splits in
California.  The projected exhaust date for 510 is in mid-1998, but
the split doesn't even go into permissive dialing until mid-March
1998.  We will very likely see prefix rationing before the mandatory
cutover in September.  It seems to me that, in view of all the talk
about 510 being the hottest spot in California for number growth, we
could advance the timetable a bit.  Most especially, if 510 is the one
that is most critical, why is 415 splitting first?


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Calling US 800 From UK: Answer Supervision on Recorded Message?
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:55:20 -0800


There has been some talk recently in uk.telecom about various ways of
dialing (or dialling, if you prefer ;->) a U.S. 800 or 888 number.
Apparently, on the two largest carriers, British Telecom (BT) and
Mercury (Hg), you can simply dial 00-1-800-nxx-xxxx or what have you.
A recording, with an American accent, then informs you that the call
will be completed, but not for free -- you will pay the normal rate
for the international call.  A couple of posters have insisted that
the intercept is provided on the U.S. side, and that it returns answer
supervision at the beginning of the recorded intercept, rather than at
the point where the called number actually answers.  They have bills
to prove that they were charged for calls to non-working U.S.  800
numbers, where clearly the call couldn't complete.

I'm a bit skeptical, since, first of all, this recorded intercept
should be provided on the originating side of the Atlantic, and, even
if it is a U.S. intercept, we supposedly know how to do that without
returning answer supervision.

By the way, these calls are being dialed with 00-1-800, not using the
"replace" code of +1 880 for "caller pays" 800.  I haven't seen any
reports about 888 numbers.

Does anyone know the technical particulars of how an international
call to a U.S. 800 number is handled?  What U.S. carrier does the call
first land on?  Does that carrier play this intercept message and
wrongly return answer supervision?  Does the U.K. carrier perhaps
ignore the absence of answer supervision and begin billing simply
because of the presence of a voice without SITs?  Also, what happens
if the 800 number you're calling from the U.K. happens to be, for
example, Canada-only?


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

Subject: GTE Sues PUC Over Discounts
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:22:34 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


GTE Sues Virginia Corporation Commission over Discount Phone Rates

By Otesa Middleton, Richmond Times-Dispatch, Va.

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 20--GTE Corp. is suing the State Corporation Commission over the
discount rates the regulatory panel set earlier this month.

The fight revolves around a Telecommunications Act of 1996 provision
that said new competitors can offer local telephone service by using
an existing company's equipment at a discounted, or wholesale, rate.

The SCC decided that long-distance giant AT&T Corp. will have to pay
20.6 percent less to use GTE's equipment than GTE customers pay for
its services, if the company uses GTE's operators. The discount is
23.4 percent if the company uses its own operator services.

GTE thinks the discount is too steep, so the commonwealth's
secondlargest local telephone company filed suit against the SCC
yesterday in U.S. District Court.

"The SCC's decision directs GTE to underwrite the cost of entry into
local markets for some of the largest companies in the world," said
Stephen Spencer, a GTE spokesman.

Robert M. Gillespie, an SCC lawyer, said the suit is premature.

GTE and AT&T have two months to work out a contract based on the
rates. The SCC said that the rates are temporary and permanent rates
will be decided later.

"The federal courts will probably be reluctant to review something
that is temporary," Gillespie said.

AT&T's vice president of law and government affairs, Wilma McCarey,
said GTE is anti-competition.

"Giving consumers choice in local telephone markets will be a long,
complicated process that will only really succeed if all parties
cooperate and try to comply with the law," McCarey said.

Spencer, at GTE in Richmond, said GTE suggested a 7 percent discount
rate because the company's costs are high due to the fact it serves
rural areas where it is more costly to supply telephone service.

The discount rate the SCC set for Bell Atlantic-Virginia was 18.5
percent if companies use Bell Atlantic's operators and 21.3 percent if
the companies use their own operators.

------------------------------

Subject: Fourth Area Code for Colorado
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:24:38 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


U S West Requests Fourth Area Code for Colorado
By John Branch, Gazette Telegraph, Colorado Springs, Colo.

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo.--Dec. 19--One year after a large part of
Colorado was given the 970 area code, U S West Communications
Corp. has requested a fourth calling area.

The proposed fourth code won't change numbers in the Pikes Peak
region, but may cause dialing and technological headaches.

Colorado's original area code, 303, will be splintered again, pending
approval from the Colorado Public Utilities Commission.

Serving the Denver metropolitan area, from Castle Rock to Longmont,
area code 303 will be out of available numbers by late 1998, U S West
said.

But this time, the split may not be geographic.

If the utilities commission determines a new area code is needed, it
will consider an overlay approach. That means that a second area code
will be added to the 303 area, giving the Denver area two codes.

An overlay approach would keep phone numbers programmed into computer
systems from changing; cellular service providers would not have to
recall all cellular telephones in order to reprogram the internally
programmed area code. Thus, some of the high-tech confusion that took
place earlier this year when the 970 code was added to northern and
western Colorado might be avoided.

The bad news is that a single home could have one area code for its
telephone and a separate one for its fax machine. Or making a call to
a next door neighbor might mean calling a different area code.

"There's no indication on which way the PUC is leaning now," said
Terry Bote, a spokesman for the commission. "It would depend on which
solution would cause the least amount of disruption for people."

The commission will gather information from now until the end of
January to determine whether a fourth area code is necessary and the
best approach to adding one.

Abel Chavez, southern Colorado manager for U S West, said his company
hopes to give customers from 18 to 24 months to prepare for changes if
the company's request is approved. An advertising campaign would then
begin, especially warning those with complex computer systems to
prepare for the reprogramming process.

Chavez said that the 719 code, which covers Colorado Springs, Pueblo
and the rest of southeastern Colorado, is not in danger of running out
of numbers.

"We are well-positioned to meet the needs for some time," Chavez
said. He didn't pinpoint when that date may arrive.

The proposal for a fourth area code was prompted by the soaring amount
of cellular phones, pagers, fax machines and computer modems that each
require a separate phone number.

------------------------------

From: jack@novagate.com (Jack Decker)
Subject: Re: Parollees and the Net
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 14:40:21 GMT


On Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:33:12 PST, in comp.dcom.telecom is written:

> Rising computer crime prompts parole rules

> WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. Parole Commission has approved
> restrictions on the use of computers by certain high-risk parolees.

> The Justice Department announced Monday that the panel voted this
> month to authorize such restrictions as requiring certain parolees to
> get prior written approval from the commission before using an
> Internet service provider, computerized bulletin board system or any
> public or private computer network.

I have mixed feelings about this.  On the one hand, I can see that
it's certainly desirable to keep pornography away from known sex
offenders.  However, one might ask the question, if someone is still
dangerous to society then why are they out on parole?  Computers are
becoming such a part of our everyday lives that I suspect it would be
nearly impossible to enforce such a parole restriction (unless you
tell a parolee that he can never visit computer-owning friends in
their homes without a chaperone).  Sooner or later it will be like
telling a parolee that they could never view a television set, when
there are TV's everywhere you go.

The thing that troubles me a little bit about this is that it opens
the door for the government to restrict how a particular group of
U.S. citizens are using computers.  Granted, this is a group that
isn't likely to elicit much sympathy from the general public, and
there is precedent for restricting the activities of those on parole.
But consider this: Suppose that someone were arrested in connection
with political activities.  It is entirely conceivable that because
the government wanted to silence that person's views, they would
stipulate that the person stay off of computers (and certainly off of
the Internet) during their parole.  In that way, the parolee would be
inhibited from expressing their political views to the 'net audience.

I am all for keeping known sex offenders away from the sexually
explicit materials on the internet (if that is possible), but I do
think that we have to be careful that the government does not attempt
to use the authority to regulate the activities of parolees as a way
to stifle the free speech of those who may disagree with those
currently in power in the government.  Otherwise, you may start seeing
people arrested for relatively minor infractions, given a light
sentence, and then placed on a parole that includes the computer
restrictions, just to keep their writings off the Internet.


Jack

------------------------------

From: icb@juno.com (Judith Oppenheimer)
Subject: Re: www.webcom.com Site Down Most of Weekend
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:10:33 EST


In reporting on Webcom being down last weekend, Mark Cuccia noted, "I
was wondering why I couldn't access Judith Oppenheimer's ICB/Callbrand
page nor Long Distance Digest this past Saturday. Both are at the
Webcom site."

Luckily, Van Hefner, Long Distance Digest's publisher and our host,
moved our page to his new domain, thedigest.com, just in time.

ICB Toll Free News is now located at www.thedigest.com/icb/.

Long as I'm here, I'll take this opportunity to wish everyone a wonderful
holiday, and a Happy New Year.


Judith Oppenheimer, ICB Toll Free Consultancy
Publisher, ICB Toll Free News  -  www.thedigest.com/icb/
1 800 THE EXPERT, (ph) 212 684-7210, (fx) 212 684-2714
icb@juno.com, j.oppenheimer@worldnet.att.net

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:52:43 -0800
From: VANTEK COMMUNICATIONS <vantek@thedigest.com>
Subject: Re: www.webcom.com Site Down Most of Weekend


On Tues, 17 Dec 1996, Mark J. Cuccia said:

> I heard on the 8:00 am (Eastern Time) hourly Westwood/Mutual/NBC-Radio
> news this morning that www.webcom.com was down for about forty hours
> this past weekend, due to computer hackers. The news report mentioned
> that many commercial and business customers are users of Webcom, and
> their pages couldn't be accessed this weekend. The report did mention
> that email was able to be sent and received without many problems,
> however.

> I was wondering why I couldn't access Judith Oppenheimer's
> ICB/Callbrand page nor Long Distance Digest this past Saturday. Both
> are at the Webcom site. I had thought that either the 'routers' on my
> end (or in transit) were having trouble accessing the site, or the
> site was brought down temporarily for maintenance. But then I heard
> the news report on the radio this morning.

> The news report also mentioned that it will be 'virtually impossible'
> to determine who 'hacked' into the site and took it out of service. I
> would hope that some additional security and tracking measures will be
> able to prevent or reduce such activities in the future.

Webcom was indeed down for over 40 hours this weekend. In fact, Pac
Bell connectivity problems shut-down Webcom's server for several
additional hours on Monday. The cause for the weekend fiasco was a
Denial of Service (DOS), or syn-flood attack. Such attacks take
advantage of a security "loophole" in the internet's TCP/IP protocol.
Directions on how to generate such an attack were recently printed in
hacker pubs 2600 and Phrack. These attacks are incredibly difficult to
stop, and almost impossible to trace (from a practical standpoint).

Webcom's server was flooded with bogus "requests" for webpages from a
non-existent IP address. The "hacker" spoofed an address of a server
that did not exist, sneding thousands of bogus requests to the server
every second. The server became overloaded trying to respond to the
bogus access requests (like attempting a "handshake"), and eventually
the server's queque was filled, denying access to legitimate requests
from real users trying to access Webcom's pages.  A New York based
internet provider PANIX suffered a similar attack a couple of months
ago. It's server was flooded for nearly an entire WEEK before the
originating IP address was found, and the attack shut-off.

I spent nearly 20 solid hours this weekend moving files from our
Website at www.webcom.com to our new location on another
server. Luckily, I had secured the services of a new provider only a
few weeks earlier, and had someplace else to go. Most of the other
3,000+ customers on Webcom who have webpages were not so lucky. We
still have most of the back issues of our newsletter at Webcom, and I
will probably spend an additional 100+ hours moving those over to our
new server as well.

I apologize to those of you who have tried accessing our "old"
Homepage since last Friday. The problem was obviously a bit beyond our
control.  Even now, Webcom's server is still "recovering", and access
is really difficult at times.

For those of you who haven't been able to reach us, please try us at
our new Web address. You shouldn't have any problem accessing us
there.

Discount Long Distance Digest:
http://www.thedigest.com

Judith Oppenheimer's Toll-Free News:
http://www.thedigest.com/icb/


Van Hefner - Editor
Discount Long Distance Digest
The Internet Journal of the Long Distance Industry
Our OLD Homepage: www.webcom.com/longdist/
VANTEK COMMUNICATIONS + 3144 Broadway, Suite 3 + Eureka, CA 95501
1-707-444-6686 PHONE + 1-707-445-4123 FAX + e-mail: postmaster@thedigest.com

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From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry Baker)
Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:42:01 GMT


In article <telecom16.669.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, monty@roscom.COM
wrote:

>  From: Nathan Newman <newman@garnet.berkeley.edu>
>  Subject: [ENODE] How Business Almost Rerailed the Net
[snip]
>      The Internet is in many ways the product of central planning in
> its rawest form: planning over decades, large government subsidies
> directed from a national headquarters, and experts designing and
> overseeing the project's development.
[snip]
>      Ironically, as networks spread in the 1980s, it was the
> government experts at ARPA and universities who backed the flexible,
> tested TCP/IP protocol, while big private companies like MCI, IBM and
> Hewlett Packard adopted an untested, bureaucratically inspired
> standard created in international committees called OSI.
[snip]
>      What is worth emphasizing is that the federal government did a
> very good job for twenty-five years in designing and guiding the
> standards and development of the Internet.

I will overlook the socialist nostalgia of this message to focus upon
a very large change in the business climate that has been ignored by
its author -- the meteoric rise in _venture capital_.  Although
venture capital was present in the 1960's -- viz. Scientific Data
Systems and Digital Equipment Corp. -- it played a vanishingly small
part in technology development compared with the major government
funding of the Defense Dept. and NASA.

But fast-forward to 1996, and we find that venture capital has now
transformed the landscape of high-tech development.  A substantial
fraction of the R&D in America is now done _within_ VC-backed
companies, as large existing companies discover that it is cheaper and
more efficient for them to buy the results of these companies, or the
companies themselves, than to try to manage and incentivize the R&D
internally.

The VC industry, unlike the captive R&D of the Fortune 100-type
companies, is not dedicated to preserving some monopoly, but to
constantly attack any portion of the economy in which the incumbents
have become too fat and complacent to offer the best prices, goods and
services.  More importantly, the VC industry is now large enough to
attack relatively large incumbents, so that mere size is no longer
such an obstacle to technical change.

The nature of standards bodies has also changed dramatically, leading
to much quicker development and deployment of interoperable standards.
Whereas in the past, standards bodies were primarily the captives of
large corporations seeking to slow or stop technical change, modern
standards bodies quickly arise as loose associations of organizations
dedicated to advancing the state of the art.  By the time the old-line
standards bodies start to work on a standard, it already has a large
number of existing vendors, and it is now the job of the Fortune 100
company to adapt to the new standard rather than the other way around.
The OSI standards mentioned by the author were one of the last gasps
of the old guard.

I strongly disagree with the author of ENODE, and contend that if the
venture capital industry had been active in the 1960's, that we would
have had a more thriving computer networking industry already in the
1970's.  Witness the meteoric rise of the Internet, once the gnarled,
arthritic hand of the federal government was removed from the throat
of this industry.  Most monopolies -- including govts -- pat
themselves on their backs and toot their horns about their
accomplishments.  But the correct question is "at what cost?", and in
particular, "at what opportunity cost?".  A monopolist can always
discount the opportunity cost, because there is no competitor to
embarrass him.

We have recently seen a number of instances where private innovation
is far ahead of govt-sponsored research -- e.g., computer languages
and compressed virtual memories.  Due to the large time constants
built into govt-sponsored research, I expect that the fraction of
these instances will continue to increase.  Govt-sponsored research is
a good mechanism for developing models and theories, but it is a very
poor mechanism for implementing actual languages, systems and
hardware.  Perhaps the severe distortions in innovation that were
caused by the hot/cold wars of the previous half-century are finally
being eliminated in favor of a more efficient distribution of
resources.  Perhaps the govt can finally get back to very _basic_
research, and leave technology development to the private sector where
it can be done much quicker and more efficiently.

------------------------------

From: cnordin@vni.net (Craig Nordin)
Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net
Date: 20 Dec 1996 00:51:42 -0500
Organization: Virtual Networks 


The point is well made: Internet is a product of the Federal
Government.

But go read your Snow Crash by Neil Stephenson and your Neuromancer by
William Gibson.  Find out what Dystopia means.

It is not impossible that the Federal Government has created the
method of communication that negates its need in the future.


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TELECOM Digest     Sat, 21 Dec 96 08:47:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 672

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Book Review: "Java Developer's Resource" by Harold (Rob Slade)
    385 or 435 to be Used for Utah (John Cropper)
    California Telephone News (Tad Cook)
    Ameritech Wants to Enter InterLATA Market in Michigan (Jack Decker)
    PUC Says No Overlays for California (Tad Cook)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (David Clayton)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)

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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:09:29 EST
From: Rob Slade (roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Java Developer's Resource" by Harold


BKJAVADR.RVW   960917
 
"Java Developer's Resource", Elliotte Rusty Harold, 1997, 0-13-570789-7,
U$26.95/C$26.95
%A   Elliotte Rusty Harold elharo@sunsite.unc.edu
%C   One Lake St., Upper Saddle River, NJ   07458
%D   1997
%G   0-13-570789-7
%I   Prentice Hall
%O   U$26.95/C$26.95 +1-201-236-7139 fax: 201-236-7131 beth_hespe@prenhall.com
%P   608
%T   "Java Developer's Resource"
 
Resourceful this book definitely is, covering all the standard topics.
In fact, it goes a bit farther, with a chapter on how to generate VRML
(Virtual Reality Modeling Language) descriptions with Java.
Additional readings are recommended at the end of each chapter for
those who want to explore further, and the last chapter in the book
lists archive sites, lists, groups, and even a couple of magazines on
Java.  (And, Elliotte, while I could agree with you on most Java
books, you might want to have a look at "Java in a Nutshell" (cf.
BKJAVANS.RVW) and "Core Java" (cf. BKCORJAV.RVW).)
 
The most interesting thing about this book, though, is that while the
author states outright that it is for those who already know
programming, no knowledge of any specific language is assumed.  The
explanations thus provided are accessible to any intelligent reader,
and therefore provide an excellent introduction to the language,
without oversimplifying to the point where the book loses usefulness
to the programming expert.  I was slightly disappointed by the chapter
on object-orientation, but only because of the high quality of the
rest of the book: the topic is covered better than in almost all other
Java books, and, indeed, better than in many object-oriented
programming texts.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   BKJAVADR.RVW   960917  Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications.


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From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: 385 or 435 to be Used for Utah
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:29:58 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Deseret News Archives,
Thursday, December 12, 1996 

LITTLE NOISE FROM RURAL UTAH ON NEW AREA CODE 

By Jennifer Toomer, Staff Writer 

A Public Service Commission hearing on a proposal to give rural Utah a
different area code reaped little participation from those who would
be most affected.

The Utah telecommunication industry has proposed limiting the current
801 area code to the Wasatch Front to handle growth and the abundance
of fax machines, cellular phones, pagers and modems in Utah.

``We're running out of telephone numbers to distribute to customers,''
PSC chairman Stephen Mecham said at the hearing. Two other discussions
on the matter have been held since May.

But on Tuesday, just three people - plus one via e-mail - spoke in
otherwise empty classrooms set up in 20 locations statewide for an
interactive teleconference, broadcast from the University of Utah
campus.

None opposed the plan to assign area code 385 or 435 (802 already has
been issued in Vermont) to those outside the populous Wasatch Front,
although it would cost them.

Richfield resident Dale Gibson owns several restaurant businesses in
Sevier and Beaver counties and subscribes to a dozen phone numbers. He
and other business owners in the affected area would shoulder the cost
of altering stationary and other advertising items to reflect the new
code.

``I see the need for a new area code, but I think we need to see two or
three put in,'' Gibson said from the Sevier Valley Applied Technology
Center. ``I'd not like to face those (printing costs) more than once.''
He likely wouldn't have to, since rural Utah would change area codes
only once.

But businesses retaining 801 in Weber, Davis, Salt Lake and Utah
counties may have to add another area code by 2005, and possibly again
after that, depending on growth, said Jack Ott of the North American
Numbering Plan Administration.

The administration is unlikely to assign more than one new area code at
a time unless need is demonstrated, Ott said.

Besides, several area codes would require 10-digit numbers for local
calls.

``Why get them before we have to? Let's continue the seven-digit dialing
as long as we can,'' Ott said.

Local calling areas, dialing plans and rates, at least for US WEST
customers, would not be altered under the plan, Ott said.

Cellular phone customers in the affected area would need to have their
phones reprogrammed, Ott said. He was unsure about the cost.

AirTouch Cellular, which recently has added new area codes in several
states, provides the reprogramming free of charge, spokeswoman Lisa
Bowersock said from Seattle.

Customers can reprogram their phones themselves within minutes in some
cases or take them to an authorized retailer, she said.

Fax machines, modems or pagers would not need to be reprogrammed.

If approved, the plan would take effect June 22. A permissive dialing
period, where callers could get through using either code, would extend
through January 1998. Afterward, a recorded message would give
misdialers the appropriate area code.

The proposal mirrors those recently implemented in Phoenix and Seattle.

A new area code is expected to cost US WEST several million dollars to
reprogram data bases, switchboards and billing systems, Ott said.

But US WEST spokesman Duane L. Cooke said the one-time cost would not
overwhelm the company, which serves 14 states and has assigned
additional area codes in the past.

``It's part of the cost of doing business,'' Cooke said. 

) 1995 Deseret News Publishing Co.


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Subject: California Telephone News
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:02:53 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Pac Bell customers to get aid from the North

We've heard from people who need regular ol' phone service work. We've
heard from folks who want a high-speed ISDN line installed. Their
complaint: It takes too long -- weeks -- to get Pacific Bell to show
up.

Guess what? Pac Bell agrees, and says the cavalry is on the way --
including from as far away as British Columbia, no less.

"We're definitely out further than we want to be" on service calls,
company spokesman John Britton said. "We are definitely in a hiring
mode."

While the great bulk of service orders get handled promptly, he said,
record demand for new lines is an issue. In the South Bay, for
example, the company has added 170 service and maintenance technicians
this year, on top of a base of about 475, and is still looking to hire
200 more.

"The truth of the matter is: It did catch us a bit by surprise,"
Britton said.

Another factor: Installation of second lines is taking a back seat to
wiring of first lines, he said, so those customers might wait
longer. Earlier corporate downsizing hasn't played much of a role, he
said, although that's debatable to some. Last month, a state
administrative law judge recommended improved standards for ISDN
customer service.

In the meantime, crews are working overtime and help is expected from
an unusual quarter. On Jan. 6, at least 120 technicians from British
Columbia are due to arrive.

                       -----------------

GOT IT? Speaking of phones, there's a murky region of the telephone
landscape that could, ironically, end up costing you money even as you
try to save.

It involves local toll calls and long-distance carriers. It gets a
little tricky, but bear with us:

Domestically, there are essentially three zones of telephone service. 
Make a local call -- up to 12 miles -- and it's free, because it's
already included in the cost of your monthly service.

Next come those local toll calls -- calls made beyond the free area
but short of your local LATA. (That's phone company talk for a large
service region that sometimes follows area code boundaries, but
sometimes doesn't; California has 11 of them.) Typically, local
service providers Pacific Bell and GTE handle these calls, which are
charged on a per-minute basis. Finally, come calls that reach beyond
the LATA -- the calls we commonly recognize as long distance. (Things
are slightly different for calls in the 12-to-16-mile range, but the
basic logic doesn't change.)

Today, most folks know they've got a choice in long-distance
carriers. It's less well appreciated, however, that callers might save
money by routing local tolls calls through one of many long-distance
providers. (This is done by dialing a five-digit code preceding
calls.)

And that's where the trap can lie waiting for you.

Let's say you're making a local toll call, and because you've got a
better deal from Joe's Long Distance Co. than Pac Bell, you route the
call through Joe.  Bully for you.

But what if it turns out your call actually isn't long enough to be a
toll call?  What if you thought it was beyond the free boundary, but
it really wasn't?

In that case, if you route it through Joe's, Joe will charge you for
use of his network. So you end up paying for what should have been a
free call.

It's not hard to imagine this happening. How often do you really know
the precise mileage of your call? And did you know the mileage is
calculated not from your telephone but from the central office serving
your phone?

Nor is it hard to imagine how charges like these could add up if you
do a lot of calling in that blurry area near the edge of your free
area -- a not uncommon experience in lifestyle- and business-dispersed
California.

So what to do?

Like so many efforts at deregulation, the situation has created a new
market.  Stepping into the void is a Bay Area firm, Telegen Corp. of
Redwood City, which sells, for $69.95, a box that will take account of
all the relevant factors and route a call to avoid that extra charge.

"Why pay Joe when Pacific Bell is free?" asks Telegen exec Warren
M. Dillard.  "People are picking up on it." (If you're interested in
the Telegen box, called the ACS 2000, call the company's customer
service at 415-261-9400.)

                    ------------------------

PHONING HOME: The term global is often used with the term Internet to
describe the scope of this communications network.

But so far, the Net hasn't been great for globetrotters.

For subscribers to most U.S. Internet-service providers who travel
overseas, accessing the Net can be both frustrating (finding closest
dial-up access point) and expensive (running up long-distance).

A few local companies are trying to bring costs down, by applying to
Net access the "roaming" concept widely used by cellular phone
customers outside their carriers' service areas.

AimQuest, in Santa Clara, grew out of the software division of Aimnet,
a Bay Area ISP, and now offers other ISPs membership in a partnership
called the Global Reach Internet Connection. The company has partners
in 22 countries, predominantly in Asia but a growing number of which
are in Europe.

It works this way: A Net user outside the country makes a connection
with a local ISP. Software would identify them as part of AimQuest's
global gig. And with that, long-distance charges are avoided. AimQuest, 
meanwhile, will take care of the intra-alliance billing, acting as a
clearinghouse of sorts for the ISPs.

"We want to be the VISA or Cirrus of the Internet," said Vice President 
Christophe Culine.

The field isn't without competition. One Palo Alto start-up, I-Pass
Alliance, has ISPs in 159 countries on board and has allied with BBN
Planet to help make the worldwide connections.

But AimQuest this month took the technology a further step, offering
the same capability for sending faxes internationally.

                      ----------------------

SIGNS OF THE TIMES: Joining the likes of Goodyear and Fuji, the
AltaVista Internet search engine now has a blimp ... Bumper sticker
recently seen: "Hang up and drive."

Pipeline appears every other Friday and is compiled by members of the
Mercury News' telecommunications reporting team: Mike Antonucci,
Howard Bryant, Elizabeth Wasserman and Christopher H. Schmitt. We'd
love to hear from you with ideas -- call (408) 920-5265 and leave a
message, fax to (408) 288-8060 or e-mail to pipeline@sjmercury.com .

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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:17:27 -0500
From: Jack Decker <jack@UtilityWatch.Org>
Subject: Ameritech Wants to Enter InterLATA Market in Michigan


I got an e-mail today from Rick Gamber at the Michigan Consumer
Federation.  He tells me that Ameritech has started the process of
trying to get approval to enter the interLATA long distance market in
Michigan.

The interesting part of this is that they are asserting that they meet
all of the 14 requirements of the federal telecom law.  I won't quote
Rick's comments precisely, but let's just say that he expressed some
doubt about the validity of that assertion.  :-)

Anyway, Rick wants to hear from competitors or potential competitors
of Ameritech who feel that they have been treated in a discriminatory
manner -- what he calls "roadkill on the information superhighway."

If you have attempted to compete with Ameritech in any way, and have
been subjected to unusual and unnecessary details, charges, roadblocks, 
and/or just being made to jump through a lot of unnecessary hoops, and
would be willing to allow your story to become part of the record of
this case, please contact the Michigan Consumer Federation.  Even if
you are just a potential competitor, but have information that you
think would be helpful, they would like to hear from you.

It is quite possible that there are stories of Ameritech inhibiting
local competition that have not yet been told.  Comments must be filed
soon, so if you have info please send e-mail ASAP to mcf@sojourn.com

While I'm at it, I'd like to take this opportunity to mention a Web
site that is under development at http://www.utilitywatch.org/.  It's
called UtilityWatch and the intent of the site is to provide links to
consumer-oriented utility information.  We have pages with links to
Utility Watchdog Groups, State and Federal Utility Regulatory
Agencies, and State Public Utility Laws that can be found on the Web,
plus a section for e-mail mailing lists (which so far only contains a
listing for MI-Telecom, the Michigan Telecommunications Mailing List).
If you maintain or know of a page in any of these categories, and it's
not already listed, let me know and I'll see that it gets added.


Jack

------------------------------

Subject: PUC Says No Overlays for California
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:26:42 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Geographic Splits Set For Area Code Relief in California Until Year 2001; 
Pacific Bell Calls CPUC Decision On Area Code Overlays `Disappointing`

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 20, 1996--The state Public
Utilities Commission adopted a comprehensive policy today that
reinforces geographic splits as the only accepted method of providing
area code relief in California through the year 2000.

The decision effectively precludes the use of overlays as a viable
alternative to traditional geographic area code splits in 12 area code
relief projects to be implemented in the next three years in
California. The Commission said an overlay option will not be
considered until the next round of area code relief projects, which
are set to begin in the year 2001.

Because overlays cannot be considered in the current round of area
code relief projects, an estimated 12 to 15 million California
residents and businesses assigned to the new area codes through
geographic splits will need to change the area code portion of their
telephone number.

Pacific Bell, which has been an advocate of overlays as the preferred
form of area code relief for dense urban areas, said it was `very
disappointed` with the Commission's ruling. `We believe this decision
deprives consumers, particularly in the 213 area code, of a logical
solution that would be less disruptive to them than a geographic
split,` said John Banuelos, the company's regulatory policy manager.

The Commission also said it will require a number of conditions to be
met before overlays can be implemented, including: -- Mandatory 1 plus
10 digit dialing for all calls in the affected region -- Permanent
local number portability, which allows people to keep their same phone
number even if they move or change telephone companies. -- An overlay
must have at least three more years of life than a geographic split --
Every prospective competitor must have at least one prefix (10,000
telephone numbers) 90 days in advance of the overlay's introduction

With an overlay, a new area code is placed over the existing area
code, with the two codes sharing the same geographic boundaries. 
Existing customers keep their area code and the new area code is given
only to people requesting new phone numbers. Consequently, customers
are not required to print new stationary, business cards, etc. or
learn new area code boundaries. New York has already successfully
implemented the nation's first overlay and three area code overlays
are planned -- one in Pennsylvania, and two in Maryland in May and
June of 1997 respectively.

Banuelos said the 213 area code, which is projected to run out of
phone numbers in early 1999, is a `perfect candidate` for an overlay
because of its small geographic area -- only 9 square miles -- and
dense population. `It doesn't make sense to rule out the possibility
of an overlay for the 213 area code, especially since this area has
suffered in recent years from negative impacts of multiple area code
relief projects,` he said. Since 1984, the 213 has spun off two area
codes -- the 818 and 310, both of which will split again in 1997
followed by another 213 split in 1998.

The latest 213 geographic split now pending before the Commission
would keep downtown Los Angeles in the 213 area code and place other
nearby cities in a new area code. `This creates a donut-shaped area
code split, with downtown Los Angeles being the center of the donut,`
Banuelos said. `This will be difficult for consumers trying to keep
track of the area code dividing line since you'll have one area code
plunked down in the middle of another area code.`

Banuelos said his remarks are not intended to criticize the proposed
213 geographic split plan. `It was the best plan the industry could
come up with given the small geography of the 213 area code. The 213
plan is just a reflection of the overall problem with geographic
splits. You cannot continue to divide area codes into smaller and
smaller pieces. At some point, we'll have area codes that look like
city blocks and very angry consumers who are fed up with widespread
confusion, inconvenience and the added expense of changing their
business cards, stationary and so forth over and over again because of
area code splits. We already have people in this region who live in
one area code, work in another one and send their children to school
in still another area code. This creates unnecessary stress and
confusion in people's lives.`

That's why it's so important for the Commission to give overlays a
chance. `With overlays, we can stop slicing up area codes to gain more
phone numbers and disrupting consumers each time. If more numbers are
needed, another overlay is added,` he said.

`Overlays are a solution needed in California where number usage has
gone through the roof,` he continued, adding that the second round of
area code relief projects in the 415, 310, 916 and 408 regions are
prime candidates for overlays.

Today, California has 13 area codes, more than any other state. Plans
call for doubling that number from 13 to 26 by the year 2001 to keep
up with the state's phenomenal phone number usage. That usage is being
spurred by the high-technology explosion of cellular phones, fax
machines, pagers and modems and the onset of local telephone
competition. Ten of the 13 area codes must be added by the end of
1998.

In another decision Friday, the CPUC denied a request by telecommuni-
cations industry representatives to move up the introduction dates for
new area codes in the 310 and 619 area codes in Southern California. 
`We applaud the Commission's decision and agree that moving up the
timeline is not appropriate because of negative impacts on customers,`
Banuelos said.

The Commission said accelerating the implementation dates by several
months would cause `widespread and massive` customer confusion and
disruption because it doesn't allow enough time for advance notice of
the change and jeopardizes Pacific Bell's ability to provide critical
customer support and billing functions.


CONTACT: Pacific Telesis Dave Miller, 916/972-2811
URL: http://www.pactel.com

------------------------------

From: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au (David Clayton)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:10:38 GMT
Organization: Customer of Access One Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia


Lloyd Matthews <lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com> contributed the following:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
> were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
> DC.  You'd think they'd go with the majority standard so they could
> collect roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will only
> work with PacBell's system?

> The odd thing is that something is weakly pinging my phone in San Jose
> and giving me a No Access message. I can't figure out who the carrier
> might be, since Pac Bell isn't officially up yet in NoCal and they're
> supposedly incompatible anyway.

> How can I find out exactly which GSM systems worldwide use the GH388,
> and who the mystery carrier is in San Jose? And what's the point of a
> worldwide standard like GSM if everybody has a different, incompatible
> implementation?

AFAIK the USA is the only place that does not conform to the "normal"
GSM standard.

GSM phones in Australia can be used in New Zealand, Europe, South
Africa, etc. etc. with most providers having international roaming
agreements, (either automatic, or via additional SIM cards).

If the USA goes to GSM on 1800/1900Mhz you may have to get a multi
frequency phone to have full usability and roaming on everyone elses
GSM networks.

The Ericsson home page, (sorry - don't know it's URL), should tell you
what networks that phone will work on, unless it's a special USA
model. There are also quite a few other GSM info. pages on the web.


Regards,

David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

------------------------------

From: rishab@nntp.best.com (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: 20 Dec 1996 23:25:28 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications


Lloyd Matthews (lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com) wrote:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones

I presume you mean the GH388 and the GF (not _CF_) 388 manufactured
and trademarket by The only difference between these two is the shape
of the case. GSM operates at around 900 or around 1800; both are
compatible. If your operators insist you use the phones they supply
you with they're ripping you off. The neatest thing about GSM is that
it _is_ a standard. Any phone should work with any network, only the
SIM card provided by the operator differs.

In India where it's all GSM 
      (see http://dxm.org/techonomist/news/cellular.html) 
people keep switching from one operator to another depending on who's
got the best discounts.  The same instrument can be used anywhere in
the country, under any network. If roaming is not enabled, all you
need is a SIM for every operator you use. BTW as a large percentage of
the phones here are smuggled from east Asia, Europe or the US to avoid
import duties, there's a lot of variety, but they all work fine in any
network, because GSM is a standard.


Rishab

The Indian Techonomist - newsletter on India's information industry
http://dxm.org/techonomist/                             rishab@dxm.org
Editor and publisher: Rishab Aiyer Ghosh      Pager +91 11 9622 162187
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    Digital PBX Lines and Modems (Stewart Fist)
    New Houston Phone Books (Tad Cook)
    Re: NPA 570 for Colorado (Linc Madison)
    Kansas: 913 to Split (John Cropper)
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Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:04:10 +1000
From: fist@ozemail.com.au (Stewart Fist)
Subject: Digital PBX Lines and Modems


This topic deserves some more discussion.  I wasn't aware of this
problem until Dan Shearer bought it to my attention.

Forward with permission from Dan Shearer.

History

On the 28th of November Richard Sharpe <sharpe@ns.aus.com> told me
that he he had blown up two Netcomm PCMCIA card modems by plugging
them into a digital line from a digital PABX. He and I both did some
investigations and concluded that Australian manufacturers, Netcomm
and Banksia both guaranteed their modems would certainly blow up under
these circumstances and specifically excluded it from the warranty.

At the same time at least two other (non-Australian) manufacturers
were loudly proclaiming that their PCMCIA products were guaranteed to
survive a digital line.

Since it is impossible to tell a digital line from any other line
without a special diagnostic tool (hotel or office staff won't know,
and a digital PABX often has analogue lines as well as digital) a lot
of people are rather annoyed. The time they are most likely to hit a
digital line is when they are in hotels or motels, when they can least
afford to be without their modem.

One of the modems providing protection was Xircom, whose products many
people (including me) do not particularly like, and the other didn't
appear to have an Australian distributor. The local modems seem to be
better quality, but I still strongly recommend that people do not
purchase them because of this problem.

An analogue PABX provides analogue lines, but a digital PABX may
provide both analogue and digital lines. Nobody except an expert in
the voice communications field is likely to be able to tell the
difference, and certainly the kinds of people at hotel reception desks
cannot be relied on for accurate information.

So it can cost you several hundred dollars every time you make a
mistake or are given incorrect information. Even worse, if you buy the
ethernet/modem combo cards and the modem blows up, you are giving up
either a PCMCIA slot or a perfectly good ethernet card.

There seem to be three kinds of PCMCIA modems:

  The kind to buy:
  *  those that survive being plugged into the (increasingly
     common) digital PABX lines in offices and hotels. They won't work, but
     they won't blow up either. Some manufacturers explicitly guarantee
     their products in this situation.

  The kind not to buy:
  *  those that won't survive a digital line under any circumstances. Some
     manufacturers (such as Netcomm and Banksia) have repeatedly told
     customers that their products are not covered by warranty under these
     circumstances. Netcomm goes as far as putting a card in the box saying
     that if you plug their modem into a digital line then it is toast.

  Another kind not to buy:
  *  modems from manufacturers that don't mention the problem in their
     literature and whose support staff haven't heard of it, promise to
     return calls, and never do.

Australian modem manufacturer Netcomm now say they have developed a
variation on their PCMCIA card modems that won't get fried by digital
PABX lines. They aren't selling it yet, but they certainly haven't
been ignoring the complaints I made either

Following is the reply I received today from Shane Lord at Netcomm.


> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Lord, Shane" <shanel@netcomm.com.au>

> Dan,

> This is an email to thank you for your notification on the lack of line
> protection in our PCCard products.

> Since your mail we have begun looking into the possibility of
> incorporating a self resetting fuse into the line interface of our
> CardModem and Socket Rocket range of products.

> Our current products will be altered to include this fuse, and all future
> products will incorporate this feature. Keep in mind, however, that some
> of these products will have the same product code as our current modems on
> the market that do not have the alteration.

> I believe we will include a way to differentiate when this occurs. (to be
> confirmed)  This is to look at the box or on the modem and look for a
> statement that says something similar to:

> "This modem includes line protection circuitry"

> Technically, what will be fitted is a UL Approved self-resetting fuse that
> is rated to 36volts 1amp. Once blown, power to the PCCard must be removed
> and the line cable unplugged from the offending socket, and the modem
> should be left for up to 1 minute to let the fuse reset.

> As this requires a PCB change to the modem, our modems currently on sale
> and previously sold will not be able to be retrofitted with this fuse, as
> it requires new Austel approval.

> If you require any further information, please let me know.

> Regards,

> Shane Lord
> Technical Services
> NetComm Limited.

                 -------------------------------
 
Dan Shearer                            email: Dan.Shearer@UniSA.edu.au
Information Technology Unit            Phone: +61 8 302 3479
University of South Australia          Fax  : +61 8 302 3385

Forwarded-By:

Stewart Fist
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Phone:+612 9416 7458   Fax: +612 9416 4582

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Subject: New Houston Phone Books
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:11:08 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Houston Phone Books Set to Begin New Chapter

By Dwight Silverman, Houston Chronicle

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 21--Local phone books, which have remained essentially unchanged
for decades, get a major facelift next year.

Not only will they include the new 281 area code -- so every phone
number in both the Yellow and White pages will be 10 instead of seven
digits -- but also some e-mail and World Wide Web addresses.

And large businesses will get first crack at an electronic version of
the business and residential white pages on CD-ROM, a Southwestern
Bell product that could eventually be sold to consumers.

These changes will be phased in as each of the various parts of the
phone book come out, said Mike Hillyer, marketing manager for
Southwestern Bell's white pages. Some of them -- such as e-mail and
Web addresses as an option for residence listings -- won't be
available until the 1998 editions.

"Right now we have a certain system constraint in our residential
listings database that prevents us from printing certain characters on
a page," Hillyer said. "The biggest problem is that we can't print the
sign."

The sign is a crucial part of all e-mail addresses, separating the
user's name from the computer system -- or domain -- he uses.

The printed directories' changes reflect the ongoing upheaval in
communications.  From the growth in phone lines causing the need for
new area codes to the increased use of electronic mail, reaching out
and touching someone is not as simple as it used to be.

The increase in phone lines in the Houston area nearly forced
Southwestern Bell to split the residential White Pages into two
volumes, as the Yellow Pages have been for years.

To conserve paper and prevent a split, the type used to print the
current White Pages -- which will be replaced in March -- was made
smaller, Hillyer said. Some consideration was given this year to
returning the type to its original size, but that would have
necessitated printing two residential volumes.

In 1996, Southwestern Bell estimates it has added more than 137,000
phone lines in the Houston region, which includes much of Southeast
Texas. In 1995, the phone company added more than 119,000 lines.

The phone book shows similar increases. For example, the current
residential White Pages has nearly 861,000 listings, compared to 1995
edition's more than 841,000 numbers. The book due in March will have
almost 897,000 phone numbers.

The changes in the phone book will happen in this order:

The March 1997 residential and business White Pages will appear first,
with each phone number sporting either a 281 or 713 area code.

The numbers in the September 1997 Yellow Pages also will include area
codes.  They'll come out well after the May 2 date when it will be
mandatory to dial the area code when calling across the 713/281
line. Until September, callers may have to rely on the business White
Pages and directory assistance to tell them which area code a
particular business is in.

The September 1997 Yellow Pages also will have e-mail and Web site
addresses as an optional part of a business' paid listing.

The March 1998 White Pages books also will have optional e-mail and
Web addresses.

Hillyer said businesses and individuals already can buy additional
lines of text in the White Pages, and the electronic addresses simply
will be an extension of that offering.

Nancy Friedman, who operates a St. Louis-based telephone consulting
firm called The Telephone Doctor, said the addition of electronic
addresses is a good idea for businesses, but may not be great for
individuals.

"On the one hand, people can find you if you want them to," Friedman
said.  "But so will telemarketers. You'll get a lot of junk e-mail."

Early in 1997, the phone company will begin offering to large
businesses an electronic version of the residential and business White
Pages it's calling the Southwestern Bell LitePages.

"We initially developed this product to serve as an alternative to the
hundreds and thousands of phone books that large business customers
receive today," Hillyer said.

An early version of the CD-ROM program will include the listings from
seven cities -- St. Louis, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, San Antonio,
Dallas, Fort Worth and Houston. In April, it will be revamped to
include the newest phone books, and more cities -- including Austin --
will be added.

Hillyer said the early version of the LitePages would be given to
large customers, who'll be asked to try it out. If they like it, they
can have the new version in April -- if they agree to take the disks
instead of the truckloads of phone books they usually receive.

Eventually, the LitePages will be sold to individuals. Southwestern
Bell spokesman Chris Talley said the company is still studying
distribution and pricing of the software.

Although there already are several programs available that provide
phone numbers on CD-ROM, the LitePages is different in that its
listings are searchable only one way -- by name. The other products --
such as PhoneDisc PowerFinder and Select-a-Phone -- let users search
by addresses, phone number, name and even business category, and
usually contain listings from almost every phone book in the country.

What users see when they search the LitePages looks just like a
printed page out of the phone book, complete with page number and the
header showing the beginning and ending entries. The opening screen is
a picture of the printed phone book's cover.

Hillyer said the LitePages capabilities were deliberately limited
because of privacy issues.

"We didn't want to hand a powerful tool to telemarketers," he said.

There are no immediate plans for a CD-ROM version of the Yellow Pages,
said Dennis Payne, regional manager for the Southwestern Bell Yellow
Pages. But he said his group would be closely studying the success of
the LitePages.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:52:00 -0800
From: Linc Madison <Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com>
Subject: Re: NPA 570 for Colorado


At 10:44 AM -0800 12/20/96, Mark J. Cuccia wrote:

> I heard that KOA-Radio (am) Denver (a 50K-watter clear channel) announced
> last night on their local news that "570" will be the next NPA code for
> Colorado with the next split of NPA 303. I didn't actually hear the news
> report myself - someone related it to me - altho' from here in N.O.,
> I *can* 'pick-up' KOA-Radio (am) from time-to-time.

Given the history of area code splits in Colorado, I can just see the
formal announcement:

"The new area code 570 will be assigned to Longmont, Fort Lupton,
Idaho Springs, Castle Rock, and Elizabeth, while Denver, Boulder,
Parker, and Brighton retain 303.  A total of twelve prefixes will move
to the new 570 area code, which is expected to last until the year
2478 without further relief.  The newly-trimmed area code 303 is
projected to require relief within ten days to two weeks.  A
spokesperson for the Colorado PUC said, 'We just can't separate these
outlying communities from Denver until it's absolutely necessary!'
Plans for the next split after 570 are expected to be unveiled next
week."

The original 303/719 split should have put the area that is now 970
into 719.  Given that they didn't do that, the 303/970 split should
have pushed the exurbs (especially on the north -- Longmont and
Boulder) into 970.  The state utility boards need to show some
evidence of spinal firmness in ignoring the whining of the towns that
get moved in a split.  There is simply no excuse for Colorado to be
adding a fourth area code.


Linc Madison   *   San Francisco, California   *   Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Kansas: 913 to Split
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:38:34 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Kansas area code to split 913 zone will divide next year;
phones outside KC area will get new code. 

By: The Associated Press 
Date: 12/14/96 

TOPEKA - Thousands of phone customers outside the Kansas City
area will get a new area code for their telephone numbers, the Kansas
Corporation Commission decided Friday.

The commission issued an order splitting the 913 area code, which
covers the northern part of the state. The change will occur next
summer.

The commission said it split the 913 area code because not enough
three-digit prefixes for seven-digit numbers are likely to be
available by the end of 1998.

Commission spokeswoman Rosemary Foreman said many telephone users
probably will dislike the change.

``We want to give people as much time as possible to make any
adjustments necessary,'' she said.

The new number will be assigned by the North American Numbering Plan
Administration, an independent telecommunications industry group.

The 913 code will encompass only the state's portion of the Kansas
City metropolitan area, Leavenworth, Linn and Miami counties and
parts of Jefferson and Atchison counties.
 
The rest of the existing 913 area will be assigned the new code.


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://www.the-server.com/jcbt2n/lincs/        

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: 20 Dec 1996 19:40:34 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.670.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Lloyd Matthews
<lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com> writes:

> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
> were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
> DC.  You'd think they'd go with the majority standard so they could
> collect roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will only
> work with PacBell's system?

Both DC and CA use 1900 MHz, as does all of North America. It is just
possible that there is some subtle difference beween CA and DC, but I
doubt that.

Europe uses primarily 900 MHz for GSM, and they are upbanding to 1800 MHz.

As to the pinging, I assume somebody, probably Pac Bell, is experimenting
with something.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: Juha Veijalainen <Juha.Veijalainen@sci.fi>
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: 20 Dec 1996 21:26:58 GMT


Lloyd Matthews <lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com> wrote in <telecom16.
670.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
> were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
> DC.

AFAIK all US "GSM" systems use 1,9 GHz range.  I believe 1,8GHz used
elsewhere is not possible because of frequency allocation in USA.  US
"GSM" phones are not compatible with GSM anywhere else (GSM at 900MHz)
or DCS-1800 (GSM at 1800MHz).  In future, you might be able to use the
SIM card for international roaming -- the terminal device,handset, is
not internationally compatible.

I'd say that PacBell's system could be "better" if:

  - they have more services available than DC system (data, voice
mail, SMS and related services, fax, IN services, etc.);

  - they cover their area with small cells/micro cells instead of full
power cells;

I cannot think of any other reasons.  GSM (900MHz) roaming is
available in over 50 countries - DCS-1800 systems are also popping up
everywhere, especially in densely populated areas.

> How can I find out exactly which GSM systems worldwide use the GH388,
> and who the mystery carrier is in San Jose? And what's the point of a
> worldwide standard like GSM if everybody has a different, incompatible
> implementation?

I have not used Ericsson recently, but I think you should have some
kind of "Search network" function (like Nokia does) -- unless of course
your phone has somehow been locked to single network provider.  You
should be able to see names of the networks available, or at least
their ID number.

GSM is a very wide set of standards and radio interface is just a part
of it.  Unfortunately USA and some areas in Asia, for example, do have
different frequency allocations, so European -- dare I say worldwide --
GSM phones cannot be used there.  SIM cards will provide roaming accounts, 
but you still need to get a phone.


Juha Veijalainen, Helsinki, Finland
http://www.sci.fi/~juhave/
** Mielipiteet omiani ** Opinions personal, facts suspect **

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:35:39 +1000
From: Stewart Fist <fist@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not


Lloyd Matthews (lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com) wrote:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd
> like to use in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles
> (and someday all of CA).
        
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different
> frequency (1800 vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile
> Services said the phones were not compatible, and that
> their GSM was "better" than in Europe or DC. You'd think
> they'd go with the majority standard so they could collect
> roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will
> only  work  with PacBell's system?

This is a plea for clarity in our use of terms.

The world is going to get awfully confused unless you American
technologists clean up your use of technical terms, as the above
illustrates.  The rest of the world is still trying to decipher the
relationship between what you Yanks call TDMA (a generic term), NDAC,
D-AMPS, Digital AMPS and IS-54.

Please, can we clear up the GSM mess now?

GSM was a term applied to a CEPT committee which designed the original
TDMA mobile phone system in Europe.  The acronym stood for Groupe
Speciale Mobile (French).

CEPT handed over part-control of GSM to ETSI in 1988, and total control
in March 1991.  The old committee is now known as the Special Mobile
Group (SMG).

The acronym was later used for general marketing purposes, and then
change to Global System for Mobiles (although in some parts of the
world it stands for "Grand Slam Mistake"!)

It allows up to five operators to share the bandwidth.The system is
designed around duplex 25MHz bands set aside in the spectrum to
provide 124 (+4 signaling) radio carriers and 992 full-rate voice
channels in total (these need to then be divided among the five
potential carriers).

The standard spectrum allocation for GSM is between 890.2 - 914.8MHz
for mobile transmit, and 935.2 - 959.8MHz for mobile receive, with a
45MHz duplex spacing.

What the above correspondent is refering to is an up-banded PCS version
correctly called DCS-1800 or DCS-1900 (depending on the frequencies).

DCS stands for Digital Cellular System or Digital Communications
Specification. (They change the name also!) 

It allows two operators to share a network, and it relies on
high-capacity small cells of about 1km diameter or less. 
     
Like GSM, the DCS voice is coded by 8-to-13kb RPE-LTP coding. The
standard frequencies are between 1710 - 1785MHz and 1805 - 1880MHz,
with 374 8-slot carriers having 200kHz of separation.

DCS is a GSM derivative, but there are 11 additional 'Delta'
recommendations added to the basic GSM standards, plus the frequency
change and the band subdivision.

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    Still Another LA Area Code (Tad Cook)
    Bell Canada's Operac - Comments (J.F. Mezei)
    Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes (Steve Gaarder)
    Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net (Fred R. Goldstein)
    Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report (Craig Nordin)
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Subject: Still Another LA Area Code
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:06:32 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Los Angeles to Get New Area Code, Implementation Date Not Yet Revealed

By Susan Pack, Press-Telegram, Long Beach, Calif.

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News


Dec. 21--Downtown Los Angeles will retain its 213 area code, but the
surrounding area will get a new one, the California Public Utilities
Commission decided Friday.

Neither the new code nor the implementation date was determined,
however.

The new doughnut configuration retains 213 for central Los Angeles,
including downtown, USC, Westlake, Echo Park and Koreatown. Among the
cities due for a new code are South Gate, South Pasadena and
Hollywood.

The split was one of two options considered by commissioners. They
rejected an overlay, which would have assigned a new area code to new
telephone lines in the area.

In fact, with the possible exception of the 310 area code, the
commission decided to continue to use geographic splits rather than
overlays to establish new area codes through the year 2000.

Three consumer surveys concluded splits were preferable to overlays,
which could result in different area codes within the same business or
household if a new line was installed. Overlays also require all
customers in the area to dial 11 digits (one plus the area code plus
the seven-digit number) on all calls, even when they're placed within
the same area code.

On Jan. 25 the 310 code will split, with callers east of the Los
Angeles River acquiring a 562 area code. If the 310 code runs out of
numbers again, however, the commission left open the possibility of an
overlay instead of yet another split.

------------------------------

From: jfmezei <jfmezei@videotron.ca>
Subject: Bell Canada's Operac - Comments
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 05:02:45 -0500
Organization: SPC
Reply-To: jfmezei@videotron.ca


Last month (November) Bell Canada introduced its Operac services for
users of the Nortel Vista 350 telephones.

These include the basic Bell services which were available before, as
well as automatic advertising displays as well as access to banking
services from various banking institutions.

I tried it for a short while and have comments:

1- NONE of the services can be removed (as the NT manual says they
   should). So if you don't like one, you have to reset the whole 
   phone and forget about the other services.

2- The "Bell Services" still disable the LINK key, make the "redial"
   button less usable and in short were not improved a bit.

3- The "advertising" is interesting. You can subscribe to various
   "groups" and "someone" regularly calls your phone (without it
   ringing it seems) and downloads the ads that scroll on your screen.

    In my case, before these were downloaded, I had already reset the
    phone, but the next morning, they had been reprogrammed :-) !

    Frankly, I do not see how this can be interesting for the customer.

4- I tried the Royal Bank banking system.
   It is a direct tie in to their existing Royal Direct voice system.
   The only difference is that when you select it, it dials a (different)
   phone number. 

    However, the service is much less usable than the pure voice system.

	- It constantly switches between voice and data, with the annoying
	  "beep" and then the wait for the data to load. So, instead of 
	  saying " you account balance is ten dollars and 20 cents", it
	  goes "beep", waits a while and you see the balance on the screen,
	  and then switches back to voice, and says "press 6 to get account
	  balance of another account, or 9 to return to the previous menu".

	 The big disadvantage is that you cannot press keys as quickly as
	 you can with the pure voice system to make it faster because
	 of the constant switches between voice and data modes.

In other words, the Royal Bank's use of the Vista 350 is a hindrance
and adds no new functions. On the other hand, if it had been a purely
data system where you could have filled out a screen-full of info, and
press the "enter" key and have the whole transaction then go through
in purely data mode, it may have been quicker than the voice system.

Some of the Bell Canada advertising says that you can inquire about
your account balance and current rates for long distance calls with
these functions. I did not see this functionality, although I may have
thougt that the "Bell Services" in the services menu were those "make
phone less usable" features.

------------------------------

From: gaarder@lightlink.com (Steve Gaarder)
Subject: Re: Canadian Use Of N11 Codes
Date: 20 Dec 1996 11:47:12 -0500


In article <telecom16.663.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, D Banks
<david_banks@gdt.com> wrote: 

> Was BC the only place in North America to use 112+Number for LD
> instead of 1 + number?

No, I think a lot of places did.  In Carlisle, Pennsylvania, you had
to dial 112 plus a party ID digit to call long distance up until 1974.
This was a Kellog K60 crossbar.  As for other 11x codes, I'll quote
myself from the TELECOM Digest of 1991:

113 got you directory assistance, 114 repair, and 116 ... well, that
was weird.  At first, it was some sort of dial speed test, responding
with a dial tone and accepting one digit.  One day, though, the dial
tone stopped happening.  The switch would accept quite a number of
digits, then I'd get recordings from other places.

It finally dawned on me that it was acting just like 112 -- making a
long distance call! So I went and tried it from a pay phone and I got
my dime back.  Only catch was that only one person in town could use
it at a time.  So, when word got around about this, the circuit was
constantly busy.  Finally, it stopped working, and I heard through the
grapevine that someone had been ordered off the circuit by a rather
gruff craftsman.  To this day, I have no idea why that circuit was
ever set up.  Perhaps it was a mistake.


Steve Gaarder, Ithaca, N.Y., USA
gaarder@lightlink.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:42:50 -0500
From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@bbn.com>
Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net


It's always fun to hear these differing economic theories try to
explain history.  Maybe there's some truth to be gained from several
of them.  But the history of the Internet itself has some little-
remembered details.

In the world of "economic theory" arguments, one can describe
government intervention into the economy, and in this case the net, in
at least three different ways:

1) The government sponsors research and/or development.
2) The government regulates something.
3) The government is a customer and its purchasing power is influential.

The ARPAnet was in large part a mix of cases 1 and 3.  It was actually
building a network for its own use, and for use in performing
government contracts.  Since the technology didn't exist, they paid
private industry to develop it. Of course the rules for this kind of
development encourage private use of the technology, so it is in
effect sponsored R&D, but not in the "pure subsidy" sense.  It's a
win/win situation when the government develops something for itself
that has spinoff value.  Some conservative economists decry case 1 as
"industrial policy", unless of course it's in an area they want to
see ...

The regulatory issue is separate.  Henry Baker's argument about
venture capital is interesting, but no amount of venture capital could
have created today's Internet under 1975's rules!  The only practical
medium for high-speed (9600 was high-speed then!) data transfer then
was leased lines.  Ma Bell had a tariff clause (common among all
telcos in those days) stating that leased ("private") lines were only
for the use of *one* customer, intra-company use only.  You couldn't
run a leased line to anyone else.  Dial-up data was capped at 300 bps
(1200 was being invented; 2400 could be done over a pair of calls).

The ARPAnet had one customer, Uncle Sam, so Ma Bell couldn't complain.
When the public packet switching business began around then (X.25 and
the like), each provider had to get an FCC license to become a common
carrier.  They created a new class of "value added network" to
accomodate them, but it was still a tough nut to crack -- getting the
license required lots of proving yourself to the FCC, and you had to
file tariffs.  Once you had the common carrier license, Ma Bell could
then provide bandwidth to your subscribers under a "service to other
common carriers" tariff.  BBN thus establshed Telenet (later sold to
GTE, thence to Sprint) and Tymshare established Tymnet (later sold to
McDonnell Douglas, thence to BT, thence to MCI).  A couple of others
started up too but weren't as big.

Compare this to today's wide-open Internet market, with thousands of
domestic providers.  In 1978, the FCC overturned the "no sharing"
clause.  The voice-centric telephone companies thought that leased
lines existed as a way to evade toll charges.  Data was incidental.
But when the FCC intervened and made "sharing and resale" legal, and
stopped regulating "value-added networks", the market could be opened
up.  A decade later, the Internet went commercial. 


Fred R. Goldstein  fgoldstein@bbn.com 
BBN Corp.  Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850

------------------------------

From: cnordin@vni.net (Craig Nordin)
Subject: Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report
Date: 20 Dec 1996 00:41:05 -0500
Organization: Virtual Networks 


I think that TV would be alot different if there were unlimited
numbers of channels to broadcast from and the cost of a broadcasting
office were $5,000 -- that one person could run.

I expect that there will be a wonderful diversity and mix of the WebTV
Wall-Marts and the Brilliant One-Person Pages.  Quite a bit like the
way books come out as polished corporate product or as personal
statements.  There is room enough for all of it ...


Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/
Virtual Networks  Premier Internet Services             cnordin@vnii.net 
Indianapolis     Indianapolis    Indianapolis Metro  http://www.vnii.net/
Indiana          Indiana         Indiana
Washington  DC   Washington DC   Washington DC Metro  http://www.vni.net/
Virtual Networks Incorporated     Virtual Networks of Indiana, Incorporated

------------------------------

From: Ron Bean <rbean@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:37:07 CST


hisys@rmi.net writes:

> Allow me to be the curmudgeon for a moment ...

Ok ...

> And all the hand-wringing charges of elitism aren't going to
> change any facts, either way.  

For a minute there I wasn't sure which side was being 'elitist':
people who think content from peons like us doesn't count, or people
who think content from the megamedia companies doesn't count.

> This message will be quickly labeled as
> doomsaying and other predictable dismissals by some.

It's hardly doomsaying since it basically describes the status quo (in
general, not on the net-- but the net will catch up). So the net won't
save the world (are we surprised?). But it won't make things any worse
either.

If you find my comments predictable, feel free to surf to the next
channel ...

> A somewhat more interactive version of the same intellectual and
> spiritual wasteland (with islands otherwise).

The old "net culture" never reached very many people. The island just
*appears* to be shrinking because the ocean is expanding. You might
have to swim a little further to find it. The loss of the "pioneer
spirit" is inevitable in any maturing industry, I'm sure you can think
of any number of examples.

> Oh, another prediction: personal websites will become the message
> doormats, bumperstickers, painted mailboxes, answering machine
> messages, and "personalized greeting cards" (ref Target or Kmart) of
> the future.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as nobody is preventing
you from doing it any other way. Which is better: A car with no bumper
stickers that looks like hundreds of thousands of other cars, or one
with a mass-produced bumper sticker on it? I claim that the latter is
ever-so-slightly better (certainly enough to justify the cost of the
bumper sticker). A can of paint and a paintbrush would be even better,
but nobody's stopping you ...

> "Look it up on the Web" educational assistance will in many, perhaps
> most, cases become another tool for kids to regurgitate rather than
> learn.

In other words, no worse than what we have now.

> [Re: Bandwidth]... it's not clear yet whether we'll go to some form
> of volume-based charge, universal access-time charges, or corporate
> financing of infrastructure like television (at which time it becomes
> "theirs" and serves their purposes).

The question is whether they'll do it in such a way that it prevents
peons like us from having our own web pages. If not, no problem; the
few who care to think will be able to find each other. It's a bit like
asking whether the USPS will stop delivering first class mail because
it's not presorted (not likely, but not entirely out of the question
either). The "Compuserve model" has already failed several times, but
the "cable TV model" might work, and might serve to exclude the rest
of us (imagine an "internet" that only connected to Compuserve, AOL,
and other large services. In some ways we're already moving in that
direction).

> And it may "penalize" atypical interests.  "Geraldo Online" is going
> to be quick to download, because six other people on your block are
> viewing it too, after that reference on TV this evening.  But you may
> have to wait for anything non-faddish and uncached to download.

Well, back in the BBS days I used to call at 4am because that's when
the lines weren't busy. Later my computer was able to do this
unattended (UUCP worked that way too). And now we have multitasking
OS's, so we can do other things while we wait.

> The best I can hope for now is to keep alive some "commercially
> unviable" niches of intelligent and thoughtful discussion ...

This kind of thing exists in the print world, and there's no reason to
think it won't happen online as well.

> We can be an insignificant (volume wise) "rider" on the tidal wave
> of the corporate media information model.

This is a big point in our favor. Compare this to the cost of, say,
public access TV.

> I hope there will still be paths of access for the black kid on the
> South Side of Chicago, who can't afford a network computer but whose
> family does have WebTV, and who is actually trying to learn,
> self-educate, and enculturate into an intellectually vibrant
> subculture absent at home or in the public schools.  But it's OK with
> me if they have to learn to read and conceptually integrate more than
> 3 short paragraphs before jumping to another subject, in order to get
> into this niche.

If the public schools can get them that far, that's probably enough. 
The real problem is not the schools, but that once they graduate
they're too busy trying to keep a roof over their heads to think about
anything else.  Once "the system" lets them have that few hours a week
of spare time, it's up to them to do something with it. With TV, all
you could do was turn it off, but with WebTV, you can at least surf to
a non-mainstream channel.

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: 20 Dec 1996 01:48:20 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.667.9@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, dave@westmark.com
(Dave Levenson) writes:

> The set-use fee is now $45.85 per month regardless of the number of
> calls.  As of 9/1/97 it becomes $0.35 per call.  This amount is set by
> the FCC.  As of 9/1/98 it becomes the initial deposit amount for local
> calls at the payphone.  It is not an arbitrary amount.  A payphone
> which imposes an arbitrarily high fee for local coin calls will
> probably not stay in business very long!

Since the debate about reimbursement is over (and FCC has decided
anyway), this poses some interesting questions.

1) What is to prevent a payphone operator from generating a large
amount of 800 calls, even autodialled, just to push up revenue? (Yes,
I understand that this might be illegal, but how do you enforce that?)
The owner could even just pay somebody to stand there and dial away!
You could probably make at least a call a minute, works out to about
20 bucks an hour. Enough for the dialler and the payphone operator!


2) What if I am at a pay phone, and would like to place an 800 call to
somebody that does not accept pay phone calls? Assume I am quite
willing to pay the 35c or even more? If I am telco adept, I might try
the AT&T 800-321 0288, dial the 800 and give them my credit card
number, but the ANI transmitted to the destination is still that of the
originating phone (I tested that), and would presumably be rejected!

I can think of several routes to solve this, but I do not know to what
extent they are technically possible and/or legal:

a) The payphone operator with or without assistance from the local
telco figures out the situation and I get a voice prompt to put in 35
cents (or more). The 800-owner needs to get a spoofed (non-payphone) ANI.

b) I)This does not work, and I get a voice prompt as to what to do, see
below.

b) II)There is no voice prompt, but  a sign on the phone on what to do,
see below.

b) III) What to do: Dial some special number (could be a local number
posted on the phone), costs me 35 cents, fine, and I get a new dial tone
good for 800 only, and I dial the number. The ANI sent to the 800
owner is some local trunk (non-payphone).

c) I get a voice prompt (or there is a sign as under roman I-II-III
above) giving a special number, local or 800, where some computer will
accept local telco and AT&T/MCI/Spring LD cards. Works like 800-321
0288, except the ANI is spoofed to non-payphone. Similar to b), but
payment is by credit card, not coin. Note that if AT&T or somebody
provides this with a special-800-good-for-calling-other-800 only, they
get to pay the paypone op 35c, and recover that (and, knowing them,
probably more) from the caller by charging his card.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: Martin Baines <martinb@reading.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:19:11 +0000
Organization: Silicon Graphics


Lloyd Matthews wrote:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
> were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
> DC.  You'd think they'd go with the majority standard so they could
> collect roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will only
> work with PacBell's system?

In most of the World GSM mean GSM900 and all the systems interwork
pretty seamlessly froma user view point.

More recently in Europe the new "PCN" systems are using GSM1800 and
again the few services that are around and have set up roaming seem
pretty seamless.

I have no idea of the detailed implementation in the US, but from what
I recall some of the PCS operators are using GSM1900. I didn't think
the 1800 band was available in the US, but I could be wrong. I know a
number of operators are looking at roam from GSM800/1800 to GSM1900 by
either SIM card swapping or (not yet available) multi-frequency phones;
this would imply the systems are more or less compatible.

I suspect what you are seeing is simply two operators who do not have a
roaming agreement. Although if that were the case, I would expect the
phone to find the network if you do a manual search, but just not be
able to log in to it. Maybe that is what the "No Access" message you
get means -- it pretty similar to what happens if I use my (GSM800)
phone and try and connect to the UK operator I *don't* have a contract
with.

As for one GSM being "better" than another -- that just sounds like
spurious marketing/service speak!


Martin Baines - Telecommunications Market Consultant
Silicon Graphics, Arlington Business Park, Reading, RG7 4SB, UK
email:  martinb@reading.sgi.com     SGI vmail:  6-788-7842
phone:  +44 118 925 7842 fax: +44 118 925 7545
URL:    http://reality.sgi.com/martinb_reading/
Silicon Surf: http://www.sgi.com/International/UK/

------------------------------

From: gws@monroe.cb.att.com (Gary Sanders)
Subject: Re: Parollees and the Net
Date: 20 Dec 1996 14:17:23 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Columbus Ohio.
Reply-To: gary.w.sanders@att.com


In article <telecom16.671.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Jack Decker
<jack@novagate.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:33:12 PST, in comp.dcom.telecom is written:

>> The Justice Department announced Monday that the panel voted this
>> month to authorize such restrictions as requiring certain parolees to
>> get prior written approval from the commission before using an
>> Internet service provider, computerized bulletin board system or any
>> public or private computer network.

What next; parolees need permission to go to a 7/Eleven?. If they are
that worried that the person is going to commit another crime why are
they being let out in the first place?


Gary W. Sanders (N8EMR) gws@sunray.cb.att.com	
AT&T Columbus,Ohio 614-860-5965 

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Parollees and the Net (Dale Farmer)   
    Re: Parollees and the Net (Nevin Liber)
    Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net (Robert McMillin)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Kimmo Ketolainen)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Nils Andersson)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Henry Baker)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Stuart Jeffery)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Frederic Leroudier)
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    Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges (John R. Levine)

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From: dale@access5.digex.net (Dale Farmer)
Subject: Re: Parollees and the Net
Date: 23 Dec 1996 20:14:32 GMT
Organization: Dale's House of Turnips


Gary Sanders (gws@monroe.cb.att.com) wrote:

> In article <telecom16.671.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Jack Decker
> <jack@novagate.com> wrote:

>> On Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:33:12 PST, in comp.dcom.telecom is written:

>>> The Justice Department announced Monday that the panel voted this
>>> month to authorize such restrictions as requiring certain parolees to
>>> get prior written approval from the commission before using an
>>> Internet service provider, computerized bulletin board system or any
>>> public or private computer network.

> What next; parolees need permission to go to a 7/Eleven?. If they are
> that worried that the person is going to commit another crime why are
> they being let out in the first place?

	You are forgetting what parole is.  It is the state letting
convicted criminals serve out the tail end of their sentence under
(supposedly) strict supervision outside of the prison.  They have many
other restrictions placed on their lifestyles during this period.
Such as weekly drug tests, cannot associate with other parolees, can
be checked up on at any time, must account for all of their time when
they meet their parole officer.  Reduced protections against search
and seizure, Freedom of speech and association curtailed, many other
aspects of their life controlled.  The goal is to give a smooth
transition from the total control prison lifestyle to a productive
free citizen lifestyle.  Of course in practice it is generally not
that well implemented, but life is not perfect.


Dale

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From: nevin@cs.arizona.edu (Nevin Liber)
Subject: Re: Parollees and the Net
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:37:05 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson Arizona


In article <telecom16.671.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, jack@novagate.com (Jack
Decker) wrote:

> But consider this: Suppose that someone were arrested in connection
> with political activities.  It is entirely conceivable that because
> the government wanted to silence that person's views, they would
> stipulate that the person stay off of computers (and certainly off of
> the Internet) during their parole.

It isn't just arrested.  In order to be a parollee, you must be
arrested, indicted, arraigned, have a criminal trial, be convicted by
a jury of twelve of your peers, and spend some time in jail.
Parollees don't have the same rights as other U.S. citizens since they
committed a crime that is harmful to society at large.


Nevin ":-)" Liber  <mailto:nevin@CS.Arizona.EDU>        (520) 293-2799
                   <http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/nevin/>

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From: rlm@netcom.com (Robert McMillin)
Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net
Reply-To: rlm@helen.surfcty.com
Organization: Charlie Don't CERF
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:30:38 GMT


On 18 Dec 1996 20:52:10 PDT, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
published a newsletter by Nathan Newman <newman@garnet.berkeley.edu>,
famed "progressive" and longtime champion of every wacky socialist
idea to come grinding down the road.  This letter purported to show
why capitalism is Bad For The Net and how it could one day End The Net
As We Know It.  Like most good socialists, Newman finds new and
inventive ways to blame the market for governmental failures.  Too, he
ignores or gets wrong significant details of the Internet's history.

>      The Internet is in many ways the product of central planning in
> its rawest form: planning over decades, large government subsidies
> directed from a national headquarters, and experts designing and
> overseeing the project's development.  The government not only created
> whole new technologies to make the Internet a possibility, it created
> the standards for forms of economic exchange of information that had
> never been possible before.

Yes, and at every turn the government tried to stop such "economic
exchange of information".  Remember the old "fair use" restrictions on
Usenet traffic?  Hell, the owners of the old Arpanet SF-LOVERS mailing
list used to get queasy thinking some government snoop might shut them
down!  No, Nathan, the Internet as a mass medium wasn't possible until
the government got out of it.  Certainly, I'll grant the researchers
who invented TCP/IP did some great work, but the government's role in
expanding the Internet is a sorry tale of restrictions.

>      It's worth remembering that the headlines just a few years back
> in 1993 about the Information Superhighway were not over the Internet
> and software companies like Netscape but about mergers and financial
> deals between those who controlled the cables to the home, on the
> assumption that those who monopolized control of the physical hardware
> connecting homes and business would reap monopoly profits in selling
> information services.  As Fortune magazine described the ultimately
> unsuccessful merger of TCI cable and Bell Atlantic telephone back in
> 1993, "It was the bold stroke of two captains of industry bent on
> securing their share of whatever booty washes ashore when the
> interactive age finally arrives ... When the dust settles, there will
> probably be eight to ten major operators on the highway, some earning
> their way mainly by collecting tolls for the use of their networks."

Yes, and what was that NII supposed to be?  Could it have been Al
Gore's wet dream of a government-financed-but-privately-operated data
network?

>      In many ways, this private vision harked back not to the original
> federal highway system but to the first transit system that
> criss-crossed the nation's land -- the railroads.  [...]

But in 1993, the NII was supposed to be something even more whiz-bang
than the Internet.  Now, first, it's pretty clear that the capital to
build and operate one of these NII thingys is just not gonna appear in
the Federal budget.  Second, an analogy does not reality make.  Newman
here takes a previous case (railroad gauge standards) and extrapolates
from it a situation that simply did not exist after the privatization
of the Internet.  If he were to ever escape from the pink-lined walls
of his Berkeley asylum, Newman might realize that the market has
brutally punished AOL, Microsoft, GE, Apple, and Compuserve for their
proprietary networks.  The Internet has been successful in part
because of the open nature of its standards, true, but far more
because of the willingness of individuals to use their capital to
provide connections.

>      RAND was enthusiastic about Baran's ideas but when AT&T was
> approached about its feasibility, AT&T executives dismissed the idea
> and even refused to share information on their long distance circuit
> maps -- Baran had to purloin a copy to evaluate his ideas which he
> and RAND were convinced were right.  Based on RAND's recommendation,
> the Air Force directly asked AT&T to build such a network but AT&T
> still refused saying it wouldn't work (except for a faction of
> scientists at Bell Labs).  This may have been technical myopia by
> the business-oriented executives, but it was an economically
> self-interested myopia.  Such a distributed network threatened (and
> today does threaten) the central economic assets of the telephone
> industry: central computers and central switches. It highlights the
> fact that corporate research labs, the main alternative to long-term
> government funding of technological alternatives, rarely if ever
> invest in fundamental technology that will likely undermine the
> natural economic monopolies they currently enjoy.

Well, golly, who GAVE the old Bell System that monopoly in the first
place?  Nathan gets it both ways here, as he is so frequently wont to
do: he blames the old Bell system for attitudes that were, if not
fostered by, undeniably built upon government-granted monopoly.  Back
in those days, Ma Bell provided a phone, told you how to dial, but no
way would they tell you how it works.  I can hardly be surprised that
they didn't want to cooperate with technical details about their
digital transmission networks.

>      The political economist Karl Polanyi argued half a century ago
> that "The road to the free market was opened and kept open by the
> enormous increase in continuous, centrally organized and controlled
> interventionism."  The reality is that the Internet is no accident but
> neither was it a technological inevitability.  It was the product of a
> US federal government, in association with other nation's experts,
> guiding its evolution, in demanding that its standards be open and in
> the public domain, and that its reach be extended broadly enough to
> overwhelm the proprietary corporate competitors.

In the end, however, this analysis is sheer BS.  Want two different
computer vendors' machines to talk?  Gee, does HP make an SNA protocol
stack?  No?  Why didn't OSI ever able get off the ground?  Maybe it
hadn't been tested.  Maybe it was too complex.  But in any case,
ascribing the success of TCP/IP to the fiat of some five-year-planner
in government is simple nonsense.  In the final analysis, TCP/IP was
the only workable lingua franca available on *all* platforms.

>      This privatization of the Internet threatens further evolution of
> the Internet.  This extends from the coordination of networking to
> avoid capacity overload to the danger that standards and protocol
> design are being shaped more and more to commercial needs.

Which, while you're sneering at it, includes things like expanding the
Net so Aunt Tillie can use it and providing more and better services.
Ever wondered why the government-protected telcos hate IPhone?  Do you
think the NSF would have allowed such a thing back when they were
running the show?  Yes, there are capacity problems, but they were
present back in the dear, departed, Federally-subsidized days Nathan
longs for -- capacity problems that would undoubtedly be solved by
bandwidth rationing.  Yes, Microsoft's dance with open standards in
the form of ActiveX is execrable, but nobody forces me to use the
thing.  Likewise, Netscape's creation-by-fiat of HTML standards has
overrun the usual standards creation process.  However, for the most
part, both companies' browsers do work on pages "best viewed with" the
other.  Net commerce has not ground to a halt.  The world continues to
spin 360 degrees each day.

The faith of communists and "progressives" in government seems
unshakable, and nowhere is it more unshakable than in the U.S., where
communism has luckily has never been tried.  Mr. Newman pulls out of
his hat a few examples where government works.  By extension, he
claims that more would be better.  Inbetween, he conveniently forgets
how the Net got from UCLA to Main Street -- not through someone at the
Department of Defense, but because of private ISPs.  This, to me, is
inexcusable.


Robert L. McMillin  | rlm@helen.surfcty.com | Netcom: rlm@netcom.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: On the other hand Robert, I have seen
some changes around here in the past couple years caused by the
intrusion of big business and the mass media into the net which have
in my opinion produced some perfectly dreadful results. A lot of those
people basically just moved in and took over, not knowing anything
about net history or culture, and rarely caring about it either way.
It just seems to me a lot of the new entries on the net have ruined
it for the rest of us. Perhaps it is just my annual time of the year
to be very depressed (I am today) but to be honest with you, this net
for me is no longer fun; it just is no longer a place I want to be
any more than I have to. I lay the blame for that on the arrival of
the many corporate new-comers in the past year or two. Big goverment
is hardly the answer either. I would like to see .edu and .org go
our separate ways and leave the mess the internet has become to .com 
with all the spammers, junk-emailers, etc. Seriously, I am just
getting very sick of it. So please don't discredit everything he had 
to say. A lot of it made sense to me.   PAT]

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From: kk@iki.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: 23 Dec 1996 06:47:44 +0200
Organization: Weyland-Yutani Group


> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)?

> How can I find out exactly which GSM systems worldwide use the GH388,
> and who the mystery carrier is in San Jose? And what's the point of a
> worldwide standard like GSM if everybody has a different, incompatible
> implementation?

GH388 and GF388 are basically the same telephone, but the latter one
comes with the flip cover. As far as I know, Ericsson already produces
them for all networks, analog and digital. GSM in question there are 
three phones models, three and implementations of the GSM network:
900 MHz, 1800 MHz and 1900 MHz. Basically phones are interchangable
between these three types of networks. Both Ericsson phones are being
sold here for the "old" 900 MHz networks as the 1800 MHz networks have
not yet been opened for public access. GH338 is the dominant Ericsson
phone on the market.

The only _nearly_ worldwide GSM frequency at the moment and far into the
future (10 years, 20 years) will be 900 MHz. Here comes the short term
problem: the first double or triple frequency phones are still being
finished off in Lund at Ericsson and in Salo at Nokia. So, if you want
to start using a GSM phone now right away, you'll have to pick one
using a _single_ frequency band.

You can't have a GSM phone in the 900 MHz frequency in USA because
other traffic uses that frequency. Between 1800 MHz and 1900 MHz the
first one would be your best choice, as it will be the first US GSM
frequency to be used to roam in another country (UK, in January), and
nearly all current "doubled frequency" networks abroad use 1800 MHz,
especially in Europe.

However, according to the country-by-country and network-by-network
listings at GSM MoU Association's site at http://www.gsmworld.com
all current US networks use 1900 MHz, including Pacific Bell and
Sprint (under a different name). This pretty much says what you
should get.

[If anyone's interested, the 900 MHz GH338 is being sold here for
FIM 2690 (lowest), that's USD 581 or DEM 901. Bundling with a
contract is prohibited to ensure fair competition and low network
traffic fees.]


Kimmo Ketolainen * kk@sci.fi * http://iki.fi/kk * Tel. Earth +358 40 55555 08
Studentville 84A, 20540 Turku, Finland * irc:Kimble#42 * Fax +358 22 50 22 40
SunOS weyland-yutani0 5.5 Generic_103093-03 sun4d sparc SUNW,SPARCserver-1000

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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: 23 Dec 1996 17:50:33 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.673.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Juha Veijalainen
<Juha.Veijalainen@sci.fi> writes:

>  - they have more services available than DC system (data, voice
> mail, SMS and related services, fax, IN services, etc.);

Data traffic works for PacBell GSM. I tried it in August, went down to
the RNC just to check out Pac Bell GSM, plugged their PCMCIA card into
my laptop, and hit the icon to connect to Compuserve. Voila! I do not
know if the support SMS and voice mail, but believe they do or at
least very soon will.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

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From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry Baker)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:17:58 GMT


In article <telecom16.670.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, lloydm@pop.svl.trw.
com wrote:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
> were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
> DC.  You'd think they'd go with the majority standard so they could
> collect roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will only
> work with PacBell's system?

I believe that PacBell uses the 'enhanced full-rate' voice encoder,
which is different from the 'full-rate' voice encoder used by Sprint
Spectrum in DC.  I believe that transcoding between the two is
possible, but the software to do so may not be enabled yet.

The frequency band _is_ the same -- 1900 MHz.

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:19:59 -0800
From: Stuart Jeffery <stu@accesscom.com>
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not


In TELECOM Digest V16 #670 Lloyd Matthews <lloydm@pop.svl.trw.com> 
writes:

> I have a GH388 GSM phone from Sprint Spectrum/DC which I'd like to use
> in PacBell's GSM service area in Los Angeles (and someday all of CA).
> But they use a CF388 phone, and possibly a different frequency (1800
> vs 1900 MHz)? The people at PacBell Mobile Services said the phones
> were not compatible, and that their GSM was "better" than in Europe or
> DC.  You'd think they'd go with the majority standard so they could
> collect roaming fees, unless the later phases of GSM service will only
> work with PacBell's system?

All North America (US and Canada) PCS operates on the same
frequencies.  The band assignment for PCS in North America is
different than PCN (European name for PCS) because of the FCC
allocated different bands. So Sprint Spectrum/APC phones are frequency
compatible with PacBell Mobile Services (PBMS), but neither is
compatible with the European band allocation. They are compatible with
each other as they both are PCS1900 (which is the name North America
upbanded GSM)

The reason you can't roam between Sprint Spectrum/APC and PBMS in San
Jose is PBMS network in San Jose is not yet commercially operating.
You might be able to roam now between Sprint Spectrum/APC and PBMS in
San Diego. If you can't, it is most likely a business issue, coupled
with some inter network technical subtleties, which are being rapidly
resolved.  All the North American PCS1900 operators are working to get
roaming agreements in place and the inter-working tested as fast as
they can.

The reason PBMS people say their system is "better" than Europe is
that PBMS launched its network using the Enhanced Full Rate Vocoder
(EFRV).  The original GSM vocoder (Full Rate Vocoder - FRV) was
developed in late 80's and it is what is commonly deployed in GSM
systems today. Speech processing has improved a lot since the late
80's. Many PCS1900 operators, PBMS included, wanted to have the best
sounding speech they could and thus have adopted EFRV from the
start. To take advantage of EFRV both the phone and the network must
be EFRV compatible. Sprint Spectrum/APC launched before the EFRV
standard was completed and their phones are standard Full Rate
Vocoder.  Because of backward compatibility, FRV phones should work on
PBMS network (provided there is a roaming agreement in place) but the
phone must be EFRV capable to take advantage of the EFRV feature.

The GSM standard is controlled by the GSM MOU and the standard
supports multiple vocoders on the same network. EFRV has been accepted
by the GSM MOU as an alternate Vocoder and it will become, over time,
supported by all GSM operators all over the world. In the mean time,
if EFRV cannot be supported, by either the phone or the network, the
FRV will be used.

> The odd thing is that something is weakly pinging my phone in San Jose
> and giving me a No Access message. I can't figure out who the carrier
> might be, since Pac Bell isn't officially up yet in NoCal and they're
> supposedly incompatible anyway.

PBMS is putting up bases stations in the Bay Area at a rapid
rate. These base stations are currently operating in a test mode.
Your phone is responding to the signals from these bases stations,
trying to gain access, but being denied access.  Your phone is being
denied access because the system is coded for only engineering tests.
If the system were commercially operating, like it is in San Diego and
Las Vegas, your phone will be granted access provided PBMS and Sprint
Spectrum/APC have worked out their roaming agreement.

Within a few months, these problems should be all be worked out.

> How can I find out exactly which GSM systems worldwide use the GH388,
> and who the mystery carrier is in San Jose? And what's the point of a
> worldwide standard like GSM if everybody has a different, incompatible
> implementation?

GSM is a world wide standard, but it has to operate in the frequency bands
that are allocated by the local regulating authorities.  The US chose not to
use the same band as had been already adopted by Europe. Maybe someone else
knows the history of that decision.


Stuart Jeffery             phone (415) 966-8199 
1072 Seena Ave.            fax   (415) 966-8456 
Los Altos, CA. 94024       stu@accesscom.com    

------------------------------

From: fleroudier@ftna.com (Frederic Leroudier)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:42:20 -0800
Organization: France Telecom, Inc.
Subject: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not


What PacBell is referring to as "better" than in Europe is probably
their use of the so-called "enhanced speech coder" in their network.
Of course this new feature will only work with handsets that also
support it, but it shouldn't prevent those (GSM handsets that operate
in the US 1900 MHz band that is) that don't from registering with the
network, provided of course that it has a subscription to PacBell or
to any network with which PacBell has a roaming agreement.


Frederic Leroudier
FLeroudier@FTNA.com

------------------------------

From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: WebTV Sad Story
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:50:43 PST
Organization: Shadownet


Alan Bishop <a@corp.webtv.net> writes:

> Hi.  Although I'm a software engineer for WebTV networks, these are my
> own opinions, and I don't speak for the company in any way.

> beck@slidell.com (Jeff Becklehimer) writes:

>> Also, when you say an image is "too detailed" does this mean you also
>> resize or reduce the number of colors of the images to make them fit
>> on the screen?

> We resize large images so that they fit on a television screen.  We
> translate from one image format to another.  I believe that some image
> formats store information in a "most detailed" to "least detailed"
> order, which means we can algorithmically throw away detail that
> wouldn't show up anyway.

The closest to this "most detailed to least detailed" idea that I'm
aware of is the use of "interleaved" display on some GIF files. Bit
maps are bitmaps. To throw away detail you have to process the image
*very* carefully, or the result is useless.

A *very* good test for your dithering algorithms would be to take a
800x600x256 (or more!) color image that contains some *small* print in
black on white. By "small" I mean that the "strokes" of the letters
are only a pixel or so across. It's virtually certain that your
resolution reducing software will render the text unreadable.

For cases like this, the ability to display *portions* of an image at
the original resolution is a necessity. As well as being able to "pan"
this view around the larger virtual image. Otherwise you'll have some
unhappy customers the first time they come across a set of plans or
diagrams on a web page.


Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
 shadow@krypton.rain.com	<--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com	<--last resort

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 12:34:00 EST
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


>> The set-use fee is now $45.85 per month regardless of the number of
>> calls.  As of 9/1/97 it becomes $0.35 per call.  This amount is set by
>> the FCC.  As of 9/1/98 it becomes the initial deposit amount for local
>> calls at the payphone.  It is not an arbitrary amount.  A payphone
>> which imposes an arbitrarily high fee for local coin calls will
>> probably not stay in business very long!

Wow, is this a screaming invitation for abuse.  Here's my plan:

1.  Place COCOTs all over the place, by promising location owners an
    unheard of $2 for every call, local or long distance, from the phone.

2.  Adjust them to require a $10.00 initial deposit, in quarters, for
    the first minute for local calls.  Mark this clearly on the phone.

3.  Encourage merchants to place a phone card dispenser next to each of my
    phones that sells 800-access cards that give you, say, four
    minutes for a dollar.

4.  Place large signs on each phone that say NO COINS NEEDED FOR
    800/888 CALLS.

Now I get $8, net, per call, remitted automatically from the IXCs, and
I'll only have go out to collect the coins from the phones (which is
tedious, expensive, and prone to theft) once a century or so.

Explain to me why, under the new FCC rules, this would be illegal.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com, http://iecc.com/johnl, "New witty saying coming soon."

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Subject: TELECOM Digest V16 #676

TELECOM Digest     Tue, 24 Dec 96 01:22:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 676

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    "Hidden Agendas" in Web Blocking Softtware (Monty Solomon)
    Representation At The FCC Hearings On Jan 23rd (Gordon Jacobson)
    Calling U.S. Toll Free Numbers From Abroad (Kimmo Ketolainen)
    California PUC Split on NPA Splits (Tad Cook)
    Re: 385 or 435 to be Used for Utah (Paul Robinson)
    World-wide Cellular Phone Rental? (Joel M. Hoffman)
    EIA 602 Information Wanted (Rafy Carmon)
    More on California Geographic Split Decision (Tad Cook)
    NPA 570 For Colorado (Mark Cuccia)
    Last Laugh! Not Exactly in the Holiday Spirit, But .. (Cliff McGlamry)

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 21:33:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: "Hidden Agendas" in Web Blocking Software
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


Excerpt from PRIVACY Forum Digest V05 #22

 Date:    Fri, 20 Dec 96 15:23 PST
 From:    lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)
 Subject: "Hidden agendas" in web blocking software

Greetings.  While the ability of parents to control their children's
access to web pages via specialized "blocking" software has been
widely touted, it's becoming apparent that problems are already
appearing.

First, there seem to be a variety of "rating" services, all promoting
their own mechanisms (and logos of course) to web sites.  A site
operator might be excused for throwing up his or her hands at the
confusion and being rather reluctant to deal with any of them.

Now it's becoming known that at least some of the available blocking
software packages apparently include what might be called "hidden
agendas".  These silently block not only obvious topics like "porn",
but also access to animal rights, feminist, liberal, and other sites
that have been identified as being on various conservative and other
"hit" lists.

What's of particular concern (regardless of one's personal political
leanings) is that the users of such packages may not even be aware
that such broad blocking is going on -- or who is being blocked.  In one
case, the manufacturer of such software threatened legal action when
the software's database of blocked sites was "decrypted" and the list
published.  The same manufacturer also reportedly added an entire
ISP's domain to the software's block list, apparently because that was
the ISP where the entity publishing the list (and associated
information about the blocking) had their web site and e-mail
addresses.

Such episodes could tend to cast a shadow on the entire category of
"parental control" software.  Clearly, the ability of parents to
control access by their children to materials on the net is important.
But it's also important that it be completely clear exactly what and
who is being blocked, and that hidden political or economic motives
not be embedded within such software.

I would therefore recommend that parents only use blocking software
where the *complete* list of default blocked sites and site
"certification" criteria are made publicly available by the
manufacturer, without any special provisos or conditions.  Such
software should also allow the parent to modify and update that list
(either to add or delete arbitrary specific sites as they choose,
regardless of whether or not a site bears a particular "stamp of
approval" from a "certifier").  Any blocking systems that do not meet
these criteria should be considered unacceptable.


 --Lauren--

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 02:34:52 -0500
From: Gordon Jacobson <gaj@portman.com>
Subject: Representation At The FCC Hearings On Jan 23rd


	On January 23, 1997 one or more of our esteemed collegues will
be testifying before the FCC, concerning the request from several
Telcos to burden ISP/IAP providers with usage charges for dial-up
connections provided to subscribers.

	It is imperative that we arm our representatives with as much
information, research and support as we can during the next few weeks.

	Of particular concern are all facts related to the assertion
by the Telcos that Internet dial-up users have significantly raised
the average call length which the Telcos use to calculate how many
ports they need on a switch and that such "increased average call
length" will require enormous Telco investment in new and/or expanded
plant that must be paid for by the ISPs/IAPs.

	From the page one article in December 16th issue of
Communications Week, we are aware that a coalition of Major Computer
and Data Communications companies (referred to as the Data Coalition)
will be filing a report in January contradicting the Telco claims.

	We are interested in hearing anything that may be of use to
us.  Please respond by email to the address in the header of this
message.


Regards, 

 - GAJ
Home Page: http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~gaj1/home.html

------------------------------

From: kk@iki.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen)
Subject: Calling U.S. Toll Free Numbers From Abroad
Date: 23 Dec 1996 00:25:37 +0200
Organization: Weyland-Yutani Group


After the introduction of the 888 code earlier this year I made
another set of test calls to both the 1800 and 1888 numbers. All
about 50 test calls were made on a Telecom Finland card payphone
which I suppose was connected to the local network of Turku
Telephone, member of the Finnet Group of local telecoms (10019,
the universal toll free fault report number rang at their office).

Results in general: calls go through using the three following
access codes: 00 - operator roulette, 994 - Telivo Ltd, 990 -
Telecom Finland Ltd). I didn't test 999 (Finnet International Ltd)
because the payphone was set to charge for all calls to this access
code. The combination 990 1888 was the only one which didn't work.

The subsitute codes 1880 and 1881 are not recognised, but the
original codes 1800 and 1888 work flawlessly on every try (except
990 1888). An intercept message was played in the beginning of every
call to warn about charging for every answered call, and charging
did not begin until the other end answered *EXCEPT* on about every 
fifth call. Also, at least twice I dialed a *non-existent* 1888 number
and charging started right away, during the intercept message from
the U.S. I couldn't find any reason for this randomness.

The most positive finding anyway was that most non-existent numbers
(N-E below) were signalled straight to the local operator, and the
local intercept message (4) was played. In the table below one can
also find out that calls to some non-existent numbers were not
catched locally.

	Dialled number|Intercept  Dialled number|Intercept
	--------------+---------  --------------+---------
	 00 1800 + 7D | 1, 2      994 1800 + N-E| 1 (!)
	 00 1888 + 7D | 2         994 1888 + N-E| 4
	 00 1800 + N-E| 3, 5, 6   990 1800 + 7D | 2
	 00 1888 + N-E| 1!, 5, 6  990 1888      | 6 (unprogrammed!)
	994 1800 + 7D | 1         990 1800 + N-E| 1
	994 1888 + 7D | 1         990 1888      | 6 (unprogrammed!)

Intercepts:

1. "Access to the number you have dialed is not free of charge outside
   the United States. If answered, you will be charged international
   direct dialing rates for this call. If you do not wish to proceed
   with this call, please hang up now." (U.S. recording)

2. "The toll free number you have dialed is not toll free if dialed
   from outside the United States. You will be charged at international
   direct dialing rates. If you do not wish to be charged please hang
   up now." (U.S. recording)

3. "Your call can't be completed as dialed. Please check the number and
   dial again." (I could get this recording only once. It is an U.S.
   recording. I did hang up at this point, the recording probably 
   continued in French or Spanish.)

4. "Valitsemanne numero ei (unreproduceable in 7-bit ASCII).
   Numret ni valde inte i bruk. Var god kontrolera numret.
   The number you have dialed is not in use. Please check the number."
   (Finnish - Swedish - English, local recording)

5. (Intercept sound - invalid number)
   "Numero ei ole (unreproducable in 7-bit ASCII) Olkaa hyv ja 
   tarkistakaa numero.
   Numret inte i bruk. Var god kontrolera numret.
   The number is not in use, please check the number."

6. (Intercept sound - invalid number)


Kimmo Ketolainen * kk@sci.fi * http://iki.fi/kk * Tel. Earth +358 40 55555 08
Studentville 84A, 20540 Turku, Finland * irc:Kimble#42 * Fax +358 22 50 22 40
SunOS weyland-yutani0 5.5 Generic_103093-03 sun4d sparc SUNW,SPARCserver-1000

------------------------------

Subject: California PUC Split on NPA Splits
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:40:35 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Commission Split over How to Add California Area Codes

By George Avalos, Contra Costa Times, Walnut Creek, Calif.

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 23--California residents and businesses will continue to see
area-code splits until at least 2000 as a solution to the state's
telephone number crunch, officials decided Friday.

A bitterly divided state Public Utilities Commission voted 3-2 to
continue the present system of dividing a region geographically prior
to adding a new area code. This procedure will be used to add the 925
area code to part of the East Bay while keeping the existing 510 area
code in an adjacent section of the East Bay.

The process of splits has worked smoothly to add area codes in
California until the last few years. Lately, though, the proliferation
of wireless telephones, pagers, fax machines, Internet accounts and
new contestants in California's telephone market have ratcheted up the
demand for new prefixes and forced an acceleration in creation of area
codes.

The PUC decided against using an alternative method called "area-code
overlays." In this system, officials would retain the current
area-code number and assign the new area code to any new numbers added
in the same region.

In an overlay system, a geographic region would have two or more area
codes.  Plus, people and businesses on the same block or in the same
building could have different area codes, depending on when they were
assigned their telephone numbers. Overlays also would require
customers to dial a 10-digit number (the three-digit area code and the
seven-digit number) to call anywhere, even within the same area code.

As a result of the PUC's vote, people will be able to continue to dial
a seven-digit number when they place a call in their own area code. A
poll commissioned by some competitors of Pacific Bell found that 85
percent of the California phone customers surveyed would prefer to
retain the seven-digit dialing system, said PUC President P. Gregory
Conlon.

But as California continues its hectic pace of adding phone numbers,
officials may have to mandate 10-digit dialing (after dialing a 1
before the area code) anyway.

"Eleven-digit dialing will come to us one way or another," said John
Gueldner, a Pacific Bell executive.

PUC Commissioner Josiah Neeper criticized area-code splits as a
temporary measure that will do little more than soothe public concerns
about dialing extra digits.

"This is a choice between short-term compromise and toadying on one
hand, and long-term vision," Neeper said. "Geographic splits are more
costly than overlays and must be done too frequently."

For example, officials this week disclosed plans for a 925 area code,
effective in 1998, to ensure the East Bay doesn't run out of telephone
numbers before then. The new 925 region of the East Bay should have
enough phone number capacity to last 14 years. But the part of the
East Bay that retains the 510 code will exhaust its supply of numbers
only six years after the split occurs, which means the East Bay will
have at least three area codes by the year 2004, Pacific Bell
officials estimate.

"We would go merrily on our way to nowhere" with area-code splits,
said PUC Commissioner Daniel Fessler. "Seven-digit dialing is for
those wedded to a 1950s, 'Leave it to Beaver' version of the telephone
industry."

But polls conducted on behalf of Pac Bell, GTE Corp. and other
telephone companies suggest the current system has plenty of support.

"All three surveys found that area-code splits are the preferred
method for most people," said Thomas Pulsifer, a PUC administrative
law judge. "The surveys also found concern about confusion over dual
area codes in the same location or same neighborhood."

The PUC on Friday also decided to cease nearly all regulation of
California's cellular, paging and personal communications services.

------------------------------

From: Paul Robinson <foryou@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 385 or 435 to be Used for Utah
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:39:22 -0500
Organization: Evergreen Software


In article <telecom16.672.2@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, John Cropper
<psyber@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Deseret News Archives,
> Thursday, December 12, 1996 

> None opposed the plan to assign area code 385  or 435... outside...
> Wasatch Front...
> Weber, Davis, Salt Lake and Utah counties ... several area codes 
> would require 10-digit numbers for local calls.

> Local calling areas, dialing plans and rates, at least for US WEST
> customers, would not be altered ... cellular phone customers in the
> affected area would need to have their phones reprogrammed ... Fax
> machines, modems or pagers would not need to be reprogrammed.

Either the item was taken verbatim from a press release by someone who
either doesn't know what they are doing, or the writer doesn't
understand how technology works.

Yes, pagers will not need to be reprogrammed.  A pager is an incoming
only device, it does not dial phone numbers.  But *any* device that
dials telephone numbers - which includes fax machines and modems -
would need to be reprogrammed if any stored number is changed.  If a
number moves to a new area code requiring the new code to be entered,
or if all numbers have to be dialed as ten digits, or any other change
of that type occurs, then any stored numbers *must* be changed to
accomodate that change.

Now, technically a modem usually does not need reprogramming -- most
people probably do not use the AT &Z telephone number list of up to
four numbers that most modems do support -- but the database used by
their software programs *does* need reprogramming, and for the
purposes of this article, that is essentially the reprogramming of the
modem which is required that I am referring to.

But a fax machine, which includes the ability to store frequently
dialed numbers in speed-dial buttons, would need it.  Also, the fax
machine's own telephone number -- sometimes referred to as the CSI
field -- would need to be changed to reflect a new area code if it was
changed or the CSI would show the wrong sender number (and in fact,
may constitute a violation of Federal Law if a cover sheet does not
show the correct number.)


(Formerly <PAUL@TDR.COM>) 
 
Paul Robinson <Foryou@erols.com>
Evergreen Software

------------------------------

From: joel@exc.com (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: World-Wide Cellular Phone Rental?
Date: 23 Dec 1996 17:11:39 GMT
Organization: Excelsior Computer Services


In the back of an airline magazine, I saw an offer for world-wide
cellular phone rental, where I would pay only for calls (probably at
quite a high rate), and nothing for renting the phone or the cellular
service.  But I forgot to keep the advertisement.

Does anyone have any details on this sort of service?  At the moment
I'm mostly interested in Israel, but in the coming months Europe, too.


Joel  (joel@exc.com)

------------------------------

From: Rafy Carmon <rafyc@comm.mot.com>
Subject: EIA 602 Information Wanted
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:46:39 +0300
Organization: Motorola - MCIL


I need urgent information regarding the EIA 602 standard.  Does
someone knows where such info might be available?  Any information
will be helpful, http/ftp sites, docs, book references, etc.


Thanks,

Rafy Carmon                              | Smtp:        rafyc@comm.mot.com
DSP SW Group Leader, Digital Radio Dept. | X-400 email: CRC020@email  
Motorola Communications Israel Ltd.      | Ms-Mail:     BRC005@email  
3 Kremenetski st.  P.O.B.  25016         | Tel:         +972-3-565-9131
| Tel-Aviv    67899       ISRAEL         | Fax:         +972-3-565-8754 

------------------------------

Subject: More on California Geographic Split Decision
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 21:30:16 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


PUC decision means millions will get change in area code

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Millions of California phone customers are
likely to see their area codes change by the year 2001 under a policy
adopted by the state Public Utilities Commission.

In a 3 to 2 vote Friday, the commission decided that in order to
accommodate millions of new phone lines, area codes running out of
capacity must be split geographically.

The decision will force an estimated 12 million to 15 million
California residents and businesses to change area codes in the next
few years, Pacific Bell projects.

The commission rejected so-called "overlay" plans in which new area
codes are introduced within the same geographic boundaries as existing
codes, adding capacity without forcing customers to change.

Of the 12 new area codes that Pacific Bell projects will be needed,
new ones have already been ordered for the southern part of the 415
region and the 916 region outside of Sacramento County. Last week, the
telephone industry petitioned the PUC to split parts of Contra Costa
County from the 510 area code.

Seven other area codes will likely split within the next few years --
including 408, 310, 619, 818, 714, 213, 209 and 805 -- and will have
to be approved by the commission as needed.

The 12th new area code will be a second split for 415 by the year
2000, according to Pacific Bell.

The ruling was a setback for Pacific Bell, which had fought for the
overlay option. The company argued that the plan would allow existing
customers would not have to print new stationary and business cards or
notify associates of number changes.

"The transition cost to customers (of area code splits) will be in the
tens of millions of dollars," said Pacific Bell spokesman Dave Miller.

Explaining the ruling, the commission cited surveys showing that most
consumers prefer area code splits to overlays.

In a written statement, the commission said that "the greatest
concerns about an overlay are having a mix of codes within the same
household or business."  Further, overlays require customers to dial
11 digits even on calls in their area code.

Most of Pacific Bell's competitors, including major long distance
companies that are entering the local market, favor geographic
splits. If new customers all get new area codes, many people might be
reluctant to switch providers, they fear.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:26:47 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: NPA 570 For Colorado


I did check with Rate & Route -- I mean the AT&T Operator, to
determine if there is a 570 local central-office prefix presently in
the 303 Area Code in Colorado.

Indeed there *IS*, for Idaho Springs CO, which is about fifty miles
west of Denver. I think that it is used for some form of wireless
functions, i.e.  cellular/paging/mobile/etc.

However, whether 570 is to be the new NPA for code relief for 303, or
another code yet to be announced, there is the talk about the new NPA
being an *overlay*, and with it the associated ten-digit local dialing
for all local-area calls, whether within your 'own' NPA code, or to
numbers with the 'other' NPA code.

In other words:

570-NXX-xxxx would mean Area Code 570, plus whatever local exchange; while
303-570-xxxx will continue to mean Area Code 303, plus local exchange 570 
*within the 303 area code*.

With overlays and mandatory ten-digit local dialing, such things *are* 
possible, and actually make *more efficient use* of numbering/code 
resources than area code splits do.


MARK J. CUCCIA  PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:  HOME:  (USA)  Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity 5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New Orleans 28  |fwds on no-answr to
Fax:UNiversity 5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail

------------------------------

Date: 23 Dec 96 12:50:50 EST
From: Cliff McGlamry <102073.1425@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Last Laugh! Not Exactly in the Holiday Spirit, But ...


For decades, two heroic statues, one male and one female, faced each
other in a city park, until one day an angel came down from heaven.

"You've been such exemplary statues," he announced to them, "that I'm
going to bring you both to life for thirty minutes, in which you can
do anything you want." And with a clap of his hands, the angel brought
the statues to life.

The two approached each other a bit shyly, but soon dashed for the
bushes, from which shortly emerged a good deal of giggling, laughter,
and shaking of branches.  Fifteen minutes later, the two statues
emerged from the bushes, wide grins on their faces.

"You still have fifteen more minutes," said the angel, winking at
them.  Grinning even more widely the female statue turned to the male
statue and said, "Great! Only this time you hold the pigeon down and
I'll crap on it's head."

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 24 Dec 96 02:58:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 677

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report (Brett Frankenberger)
    Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report (Morgan Warstler)
    Re: Echelon: The Global Surveillance System (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (H. Gorman)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (M. Deignan)
    Re: Kid-Safe ISPs (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
    Re: Kid-Safe ISPs (Andy McFadden)
    FCC Wants Lower International Settlement Fees (oldbear@arctos.com)

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From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 04:05:32 GMT


In article <telecom16.664.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, <hisys@rmi.net >
wrote:

> Allow me to be the curmudgeon for a moment ...

Your factual observations are right on, IMO ...  but I'm not sure the
implications are as far reaching as you predict ... read on ...

> My concerns have to do with quality and quantity, as well as "net
> culture".  WebTV seems to be taking the the same fine quality delta
> that AOLine has been known for, and moving it several notches further.
> No doubt we'll pick up a few eloquent voices, a few urban poets of
> great vision, and a few unsong heros.  But in all honestly, WebTV aims
> to bring massive numbers of the couch potato "I pay you to keep me
> amused" folks online.  

> The goal is to ultimately expand the user base
> for the Internet by many fold, swamping the current users and any 'net
> culture' they might still have; there will be little chance to
> "enculturate" the newcomers with any of the values or (sub)culture of
> the old internet -- their "culture" will be manufactured the big media 
> corporations.

There never has been a "Net Culture".  The net is just silicon and
copper.  What manifested itself as the Net Culture had less to do with
the Net and more to do with the people on the Net.  When the Net was
less accessible, it took a certain type of person to get onto it (i.e.
University Research Type or at least a Hacker-type with some friends
who know how to get on).  As the Net became more accessible, it
expanded around these circles.  

For example, anyone at a University could get an account without
having a specific research need ... and bulletin boards, etc, began to
connect to the net so that any computer-geek, instead of just
well-connected (no pun intended) computer-geeks, could get on.  What
we then wound up with was, not a culture of the Net, but rather, the
culture of the people who made up the Net manifesting itself on the
Net.  The Net only facilitates letting these kinds of people get
togethor.  Rather than discussing on the telephone what I was
interested in with people who shared that interest, I could discuss it
over the Net.  And reach many more people who shared my interests that
way.

This will not change.  I am not the "couch potato - I pay you to keep
me informed type" and I (hopefully) never will be.  Nor will I ever
use the Net in that fashion.  Unfortunately, personality types such as
those of the people who initially made up the Net are a minority in
society.  And, as a result, as the Net becomes more ubiquitous, such
personality types will also become a minority on the Net.  This is
neither a good thing or a bad thing -- it is probably somewhat of a
bad thing that the majority of the population wants to sit in front of
X (whether X is WebTV or broadcast TV or whatever) and be entertained,
but that was a bad thing before the web existed. But the increase in
mindless content doesn't decrease the mindful content.
 
Nor does it change the Web, except in the area of percentages.  The
amount of truely "useful" content on the Net is not decreasing.  It is
merely increasing less rapidly than the about of "crap" that is
appearing on the Net.  No, www.cbs.com is not a site where I will
probably spend any signifigant amount of time.  But the fact that is
exists doesn't harm me, and the fact that lots of people stare at such
sites doesn't harm me either.  I can still discuss whatever meaningful
topics that I wish over the Net.  The difference is that the
couch-potato next door (figuratively speaking -- no offense to my
neighbors :) ) can post about his favorite Bay Watch episode, or
whatever he wishes.

The only disappointment I see is for those who had hoped that the
Internet would revolutionize society.  Turn all couch-potatos into
actual, thinking citizens/netizens.  Bring everyone into a wonderful
world full of meaningful discussions and mindful content.  I never
expected that to happen, and don't currently expect that it will
happen.  The net is only a tool.  It will help couch potatos be better
couch potatos.  It will help researchers be better researchers.  And so
on.  And so on.  But it won't turn couch potatos into something else.

> My predictions: the differentiation into 'info providers' and 'informa-
> tion consumers' will continue to accelerate, with collaboration, peer
> networks, information sharing, volunteerism and mutuality becoming
> ever less used concepts.

I agree only on the percentage basis.  The total amount of
"peer-to-peer" content will not decrease.  But it will increase at a
rate slower than the "info provider" content.  So you will end up with
a large percentage of the content being info-provider content, but the
actual amount of non-prodiver content won't be less than it would have
been if not for the info-providers.  That is, I don't see anyone
deciding skip making a quality site, and instead make a lame personal
site, just so he has more time to go visit www.nekkid-gurls.com.

> Most newspapers are calculatedly written for a 4th grade reading level
> today, a least common denominator and thus very large market.  This is
> well documented and verifiable, not just an opinion.  Pages designed
> for WebTV will aim lower if anything.  More than a few sentences on a
> page will be inconsistent with the viewership.  This *IS* a change
> from the old Internet, no matter that some apologists will try to make
> it a shameful, elitist thing for us to notice such facts.

But that's not the type of page I am interested in anyway.  Are you
suggesting that a large entertainment company, say, NBC, might
actually make meaningful content if it weren't for WebTV?  I don't
think so.  It's more likely that they wouldn't make *any* content if
no means existed for the mindless masses to get on the Internet and
see their page.

This is not a zero sum game.  All the content that you always liked
will still be there.  It's just that, additionally, we'll have
content for the couch potoatos.  And since couch potatos make up a
large percentage of the population, there will be a lot of Web Sites
directed to them.

> Oh, another prediction: personal websites will become the message
> doormats, bumperstickers, painted mailboxes, answering machine
> messages, and "personalized greeting cards" (ref Target or Kmart) of
> the future.  

Again, no change.  Just additions.  Your Web Site won't change.  Most
of my friends' Web Sites won't change.  (I don't yet have a Web Site).
But there will be a lot more personal Web Sites, and many of them will
be the sort of tripe you describe above.

> "Look it up on the Web" educational assistance will in many, perhaps
> most, cases become another tool for kids to regurgitate rather than
> learn.  

But the kids doing that are the same kids who are today plagerizing
one encyclopadeia and then listing five others as references.  The Net
makes legitimate research easier, it also makes bad research easier.
But it won't make good researchers become bad researchers, nor will it
make poor researchers into good researchers.

> Online discussion groups, whether Usenet or mailing lists, will be
> deluged with folks who don't contribute much.  They will either be
> looking for free advice (the internet has been sold as this)

This is one place where we will have to adapt.  Without a doubt there
is a change here -- newsgroups that used to be perfectly good places to
have technical discussions and/or meaningful discussions about
non-technical things are now little more than flame-fests and/or forums
for the clueless to ask about thus and such.  (This isn't an entirely
web-based phenomenon, BTW.  I've talked to college professors who
routinely get (paper) letters from crackpots who claim to have found
ways to trisect angles, build perpetual motion machines, whatever.  The
Net just makes it easier for those crackpots to find appropriate
"experts.") This is the same as everywhere else -- the amount of useful
content is still increasing -- but just not as fast as the amount of
useless content.  Unfortunately, while it's relatively easy to avoid
the crap on the web, it's much harder in newsgroups.  

This will have to play itself out.  Perhaps after enough flames, the
word will spread wide enough.  Or maybe we'll end up with a lot more
moderated groups.

The changing of Usenet is a very real phenomenon, and is already in
progress.  (September 1993 -- the September that Never Ended.)

> So there will be much movement to implement cable modems and
> xDSL (especially ADSL), to give every one of those consumers 1.5-8
> Mbps of download channel.  Think what that means: ONE NEIGHBORHOOD
> could saturate today's entire backbone, and one city could require the
> backbone to expand 100 fold to keep up (not likely to be well funded
> by $19.95/month).  

Increasing backbone capacity is easier than increasing subscriber
capacity.  So the backbone will almost certainly keep up.

> The internet infrastructure of 2005
> will be optimized for "broadcast" information from "megasite"
> producers to mass consumers who are mostly passive except for "channel
> surfing", rather than for information collaboration among relative
> peers.  Organizationally it will resemble today's television industry
> much more than 1990's internet.  It may even merge into one industry
> with television.

> And it may "penalize" atypical interests.  "Geraldo Online" is going
> to be quick to download, because six other people on your block are
> viewing it too, after that reference on TV this evening.  But you may
> have to wait for anything non-faddish and uncached to download.

Yes, the mindless stuff will load faster than the mindful stuff,
because of the caching.  But we'll need bigger pipes to fill the
caches, and the mindful stuff will benefit from those caches.  The
result is that mindful content will speed up because of bigger pipes. 
Mindless content will speed up even more because it will be more
readily cached, but the mindful content will still benefit from the
bigger backbone pipes that keep the caches full.

> Some will say that WebTV "democratizes" the net, making it more
> accessible and representative, empowering more people.  To some degree
> it might, for some people.  But the overall thrust is NOT coming from
> the grass roots.  This is not a project wherein inner city
> neighborhoods gets together than uses the network to organize
> politically, to nourish and expand their non-mainstream culture, to
> address their real life problems like gangs or jobs.  It's a creation
> of Phillips and Sony and RCA and Disney and Time and Reuters and
> NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN and Paramount and all the same extremely wealthy and
> powerful commercial portions of our society that have dominated and
> controlled the mainstream media.  They will tout isolated examples of
> good deeds in things like inner cities, but those are PR; the core of
> this change in direction is based on the exact same agendas and
> worldviews that control TV or People magazine (or major sports teams).
> Has the ubiquity of CocaCola ads or the popularity of Cheers
> democratized the world?

Here we agree completely.  The Web will not democratize the world.  It
represents only an incremental change.  It's a new media.  Technically
quite different than existing media, but fundamentally the same.

> The best I can hope for now is to keep alive some "commercially
> unviable" niches of intelligent and thoughtful discussion, peer
> creativity, collaborative information exchange, and free and diverse
> thought that will never show up significantly on CBS's broadcasts or
> AT&T's web sites.  

My point exactly.  But those niches will be bigger than the Net
initally was.  Instead of 90% of a relatively small Net, we'll have
.1% of an outrageously huge net.  We come out ahead, even if some
other people come out more ahead.  And we'll benfit from the
infrastructure put in place to help "them".
 
> Trying to write well, thinking before replying, critically
> examining alternatives - there should remain a niche on the internet
> where these continue to be more valued than buying a new car because
> it's advertized as somehow making you more potent.

This niche will remain, just as it continues to exist in the
non-Internet world.  This is my fundamental point.  The Net as we know
it will continue to exist ... just as a subset of a much larger net.
My other point would be that no new media is likely going to
completely change the nature of the average lazy person.  Those who
had hoped that the Net would radically democratize society -- give
everyone a voice and make everyone a mindful productive netizen -- are
going to be disappointed.  Those who do not want to be "democraticized" 
are not going to be ... not via the Net ... not via anything else.


Brett  (brettf@netcom.com)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do you *really* believe that 'the net
as we know it will continue to exist ...' ?  I am wondering how
many families in the United States during Christmas, 1996 will open
their gifts to one another and find a Web TV device? And how many
will be thrilled with this wonderful new possession and hook it up
immediatly to get on the web and the net for the first time? I'll
bet their numbers will be legion.

Years and years ago, in the CB Radio days, when CB was to a small
elite group what Usenet was to many of us five or ten years ago,
it was inevitable that the busiest days of the year for traffic on
the radio were Christmas and the week or so following. We would
joke and kid around about it the week before Christmas saying to
one another, 'expect to hear a lot of new voices and strange people
beginning in a few days ...' and indeed, we always would. Starting
Christmas Day, they'd be out there in droves. Every one of them
so proud of their new radio and new ability to communicate. You 
see, CB Radio was going to 'democraticize' the world. Everyone was
now going to have a chance to participate in the lively conversations
which took place night after night on the 11-meter airwaves across
America. 

The veteran CB-ers were in two camps: there were a large number
who would harass the new guys to the point they would give up and
no longer participate. It was common to just 'throw carrier' at
them, 'walk on them' and otherwise jam their signals making it
impossible for them to participate. The other camp took the 
position that everyone was new at some point or another, and that
it reflected well on all of us to be as charitable as possible to
the new guys, even if the new guys acted ignorant and had no interest
at all in the 'gentlemens agreements' which the rest of the CB
community observed, i.e. teenagers would talk on one channel, the
politicians and philosophers on another channel, the people who
were interested in sports on another channel, and *never* any
commercial advertising, etc. Then within a week or two after the
holiday was over, as the new year go underway, a lot of very
disillusioned people would unplug their radio and put it in a
closet somewhere to gather dust. 

I suspect we will have a lot of new netters with us beginning
later this week. Don't forget, people also buy computers for
their kids at Christmas, and I would like to suggest we all take
the high road and assume that everyone of them mean well until
as *individuals* they prove themselves otherwise. To say that
someone 'means well' is not to say they are not ignorant; it is
not to say there won't be lots of chain letters and spams and
other nuisances. But I dunno ... let's just wish one another a
happy holiday and seek out the best of the net where we can find
it. You can probably tell I am very ambivilent on this point;
there are days I feel like unplugging my terminal and tossing
it all in also; yet when you least expect it, you meet the
*nicest* people.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: Morgan Warstler <dmcopy@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:41:22 -0800
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Reply-To: dmcopy@earthlink.net


All I care about is the sound bite:

> The internet is the latest orange grove to be turned into (almost)
> indistinguishable suburbs modeled on those left by mass TV, radio,
> magazines and newspapers.  WebTV is the bulldozers and contract
> assemblers putting up more ticky tacky boxes on the hillside.  Rather
> than the internet culture following the path of the Amazon tribe whose
> land has been "developed", let's think more like the coyote, and
> co-exist in the "unprofitable" margins.

I only care about the sound bite because that's all I need. You see,
it's not that I didn't have time to read your thoughts, it's that I
refuse to believe you needed all that space to say what you said. I
won't demean you by allowing you to ramble on. I expect you to evolve
and express concisely.

This is why the sound bite culture is SUPERIOR to your mythical elite
village. 

I don't do computers, I do communication. As a theory, I posit: it is
more effective to trade 500 sound bites back and forth, then to have
each side (assuming bipolar theory) develop a single persuasive case
for it's view.

What's more, 1000 rapid stream images blown over a two minute period
can convey all the thought and depth of the entire Lincoln-Douglas
debates.

Finally, the best part about the unwashed masses is that they don't
give a damn about your feelings of web ownership. It's that very
attitude of theirs which makes them INHERENTLY GOOD.

So, I put it to you: Can you defend your feelings of ownership? If
not, what right do you have to care if it is destroyed?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your point is good in the sense that
there are so many 'old timers' on the net -- myself included -- who
talk about 'their net' as though they did have some ownership rights.
I'll admit it, I am guilty of it also. The fact is, very few of us
own anything except our own computers (and maybe our employer owns
that also ... ) and we participate here purely through the good will
of the companies/institutions which do pay the bills. So readers,
how *do* you defend your feelings of ownership if you do, and what
right *do* you have to say the direction things should be going?
Did I open up a hornet's nest here? <grin> .... PAT]

------------------------------

From: rishab@nntp.best.com (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Echelon: The Global Surveillance System
Date: 23 Dec 1996 21:56:16 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications


It's only to be expected that the NSA and friends try to monitor
e-mail and other data traffic. Now I'm probably _really_ stupid, but
if the NSA had the technology to do good, high-volume (HIGH!)
"keyword" recognition on intercepted voice traffic - or even fax
traffic - it would sell it and make pots of money to buy the new toys
that tight-fisted Congress denies it.  I don't believe they have the
technology to do much of what Nicky Hager's article describes -
i.e. sure all those spooks may intercept traffic, but they couldn't
make much sense of it.

I _do_ believe that the NSA could make a lot of sense of huge volumes
of data traffic, which is why good people must include lots of
spookbait in their mail (terrorist bomb Hamas Iran Clinton CIA nuclear
sarin) to keep them usefully occupied. Why do I believe this? Because
the NSA has been flogging this tech to the private sector. See for
example, _Science_ 10 Feb 1995 (vol. 267 p. 843) "Guaging similarity
with n-grams: language- independent categorisation of text" by Marc
Damashek of a familiar Fort Meade, DoD address.

The same technology is referred to in the old post by Bruce Schneier
attached below.

When the NSA starts selling voice-recognition technology ("language-
independent"!) _then_ it's time to worry. Right now, just use PGP.


-Rishab

  Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.security,alt.privacy
  From: schneier@chinet.chinet.com (Bruce Schneier)
  Subject: "Interesting Stuff" Checkers at the NSA
  Message-ID: <Cq2934.q0@chinet.chinet.com>
  Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
  Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 17:40:15 GMT

This is from a flyer that NSA people have been distributing:

     NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY --  TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER

     Information Sorting and Retrieval by Language or Topic

     Description:  This technique is an extremely simple, fast,
     completely general mathod of sorting and retrieving machine-
     readable text according to language and/or topic.  The
     method is totally independent of the particular languages or
     topics of interest, and relies for guidance solely upon
     exemplars (e.g., existing documents, fragments, etc.)
     provided by the user.  It employs no dictionaries keywords,
     stoplists, stemmings, syntax, semantics, or grammar;
     nevertheless, it is capable of distinguishing among closely
     related toopics (previously considered inseparable) in any
     language, and it can do so even in text containing a great
     many errors (typically 10 - 15% of all characters).  The
     technique can be quickly implemented in software on any
     computer system, from microprocessor to supercomputer, and
     can easily be implemented in inexpensive hardware as well. 
     It is directly scalable to very large data sets (millions of
     documents).

     Commercial Application:

          Language and topic-independent sorting and retieval of
          documents satisfying dynamic criteria defined only by
          existing documents.

          Clustering of topically related documents, with no
          prior knowledge of the languages or topics that may be
          present.  It desired, this activity can automatically
          generate document selectors.

          Specializing sorting tasks, such as identification of
          duuplicate or near-duplicate documents in a large set.

     National Security Agency
     Research and Technology Group - R
     Office of Research and Technology Applications (ORTA)
     9800 Savage Road
     Fort George G. Meade, MD  20755-6000
     (301) 688-0606


If this is the stuff they're giving out to the public, I can only
imagine what they're keeping for themselves.

Bruce

                 *************************************

Bruce Schneier
Counterpane Systems         For a good prime, call 391581 * 2^216193 - 1
schneier@chinet.com

------------------------------

From: hillary@hillary.net (Hillary Gorman)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: 23 Dec 1996 20:51:42 GMT
Organization: Packet Shredders Anonymous


In <telecom16.665.2@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Monty Solomon
<monty@roscom.COM> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:07:04 -0500
> From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@cam.ov.com>
> Subject: The InterNIC: a case study in bad database management

>  Foo, Inc. would rather not let records remain in the InterNIC
> database claiming that Joe works for them when in fact he does not.
> Therefore, they want to contact the InterNIC and tell them, "Look, the
> information in Joe Admin's contact record which says that he for us is
> incorrect.  You can confirm this by attempting to send E-mail to the
> address in the record, or by calling the phone number in the record
> and asking to speak to him.  The person who answers will confirm that
> he no longer works there.  Please either delete the contact record
> completely or remove the information in it which associates Joe Admin
> with Foo, Inc."

Sending a fax on Foo, Inc letterhead, or a certified letter on same,
is what I have been advised to do, what NIC reps on the ISP mailing
list have suggested, and it works for me and many others ...

------------------------------

From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: 23 Dec 1996 16:23:42 -0500
Organization: The Ace Tomato Company


> From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@cam.ov.com>
> Subject: The InterNIC: a case study in bad database management

[64-million-dollar mismanagement story deleted]

You think that trying to change existing Internic records are bad,
just try getting a new block of IP address assignments from them!

I manage a large munipical wide-area-network. I filed paperwork with
the Internic on several occasions asking for a block of Class-C IP
address assignments to use on my network.

The response, each time, was that I should contact my ISP and obtain
IP address allocations from them.

So, I wrote back explaining that I was a large municipal wide-area
network, and like many municipalities, the ISP was not 'set-in-stone'
as it was a service that goes out to competitive bid every year or so.
I explained that I was in no position to manually re-assign the IP
address on the hundreds of machines under my control on a yearly basis
should the ISP winning the contract change.

Their response? "Please contact your ISP for an IP address allocation".

I went through this four times over the past year. I still don't have
a block of IP addresses. I gave up six months ago and just selected a
block at random to use. If and when we ever do connect to the Internet
(not a high priority right now anyway) I'll worry about it then (and
probably use another tool like a proxy server to "fix" it.)

Of course, what type of behavior do you really expect from a monopoly?
Anyone want to start a competing Internic? At $64 million dollars in
revenue for one year alone I'm sure we can get the venture capital 
needed to properly fund the expedition.


MD

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Kid-Safe ISPs
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1996 03:50:55 GMT
From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Reply-To: rishab@dxm.org


deh@atype.com wrote:

>> Obscenity has always been illegal on the Net under US
>> law. Indeed it is under existing obscenity statutes that BBS sysops
>> (AABBS) were prosecuted.

> Wasn't the Adult Action case based on a local statue, not US federal law?

Under federal law, obscenity is a crime, although the precise
definition of what is and is not obscene is left to "local
standards". That's how AABBS was violating _federal_ law although its
content was obscene only by local standards, albeit local to another
state. That's why I suggested updation of the obscenity "local
standards" definition to deal with the Net.


Rishab

------------------------------

From: fadden@netcom.com (Andy McFadden)
Subject: Re: Kid-Safe ISPs
Organization: Lipless Rattling Crankbait
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1996 21:03:48 GMT


In article <telecom16.666.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
<rishab@dxm.org> wrote:

> To Hillary and the other ISP owners out there - you can do this by
> setting up a proxy server with one of those nanny programs, as well as
> killing many of the nastier newsgroups. You're providing an extra
> service, so you can charge for it. I don't agree with Pat that it's
> every ISPs duty to make their systems kid-safe.  Some will want to
> address that market, others need not. It's probably better that way,
> because those who want unrestricted access will know where to go -
> maybe eventually adult ISPs will be the more expensive - and not
> clutter previously kid-safe newsgroups.

WebTV offers kid-safe surfing at no extra charge.  It comes in two
forms, "black list" (which bans certain sites) and "white list" (which
only allows you to go to approved sites).  You can choose to allow
e-mail or not.

If WebTV does become a major consumer force, it might show the pro-CDA
people that it really is possible to let your kids loose on the
Internet without putting severe restrictions on content.


fadden@netcom.com (Andy McFadden)
Friends don't let friends patent software -- http://www.lpf.org/

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1996 10:17:28 -0500
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: FCC Wants Lower International Settlement Fees


FCC HAS PLANS FOR SLASHING OVERSEAS PHONE RATES

The Federal Communications Commission has developed a new set of 
substantially lower benchmark "settlement fees," which are the 
payments that phone companies make to each other for completing 
each their calls.  
 
Because U.S. carriers send more calls overseas than they receive, 
the system results in a net outflow of $5 billion from the U.S. 
to foreign phone service providers, who in many cases have used 
the funds to build their own networks.  

Some analysts say that the FCC plan could harm developing 
countries, which have the least competitive phone markets.  

source: New York Times
        December 19, 1996
        page C4

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    No Progress on Indian Regulators for Telecom, Broadcasting (R Ghosh)
    Book Review: "VRML: Exploring Virtual Worlds on the Internet" (R. Slade)
    Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers (Andrew B. Hawthorn)
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    Web Page on Federal Telecom Act (Danny Burstein)
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Subject: No Progress on Indian Regulators For Telecom, Broadcasting
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:56:46 PST
From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Reply-To: rishab@dxm.org


The Indian Techonomist: bulletin, December 21, 1996
Copyright (C) 1996 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh. All rights reserved

No progress on Indian telecom, broadcasting regulators
   - Direct-to-Home TV stalled, wireline telecom licences crawl

     December 21: With the close of the winter session of
     Parliament this week, there has been little progress in
     the process of creating independent regulatory
     authorities for telecom and broadcasting. Legislation
     for the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India, the lack
     of which has stalled the telecom privatisation
     programme, is now likely to wait three months for the
     next session of Parliament.
     
     For broadcasting, the government passed an order
     yesterday requiring licences for the use of dish
     antennas for reception of signals at 4800Mhz - this is
     meant to stall Ku-band broadcasts for Direct-To-Home
     (DTH) television until the government and parliament
     agree on comprehensive legislation ending the
     government monopoly on broadcasting. The bill on
     broadcasting, calling for an independent regulatory
     authority, was not even presented in this session of
     parliament.
     
     In the second week of this month, Indian Communications
     Minister Beni Prasad Verma had conditionally cleared a
     bill - previously a Presidential Ordinance - that was
     to set up the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India
     (TRAI) if passed in the current session of Parliament.
     Mr Verma reportedly accepted many suggestions of the
     parliamentary committee on telecom, including those to
     do with the composition of the authority, but drew a
     line at the crucial one: an excision of section 35 of
     the TRAI Bill, which states that the regulator may
     create rules "with the previous approval of the Central
     Government" seriously limiting its credibility as an
     institution independent of the government.
     
     The Minister reportedly accepted the committee's
     suggestion to strengthen the wording of the TRAI bill
     clarifying that its jurisdiction would extend to the
     network operations of the Department of
     Telecommunications (DoT), which while losing its
     monopoly will remain the main wireline operator and
     only provider of nationwide and international long-
     distance services. However, the intent to retain
     section 35 makes the boundaries between various roles
     of the DoT - representative of state, policy-maker,
     licenser, regulator, operator - rather porous.
     
     The telecoms regulator, as planned, is neither like the
     American FCC nor the British Oftel; it does not - and
     the government has made it clear that it will not -
     have the power to grant licences of any sort. The
     Telecom Regulatory Authority of India will act as a
     sort of special court. According to the TRAI bill, the
     main role of the authority is to ensure that the
     agreements between operators are followed, to act on
     complaints from telecom service consumers, and to
     resolve conflicts between the DoT and its private
     competitors. With the DoT operations likely to remain
     part of the government for some time, the independence
     of the TRAI is thought crucial by industry.
     
     The TRAI will be headed by a High Court judge - or a
     retired Supreme Court judge. This is traditional in
     autonomous institutions set up by the Indian government
     that operate. Its members, according to the original
     bill, were to be drawn from diverse government
     departments; following the Parliament's objections,
     this may be extended to "respected" members of the
     public and business.
     
     The TRAI bill has been trying to get past Parliament
     since fall 1995. It was then held up for two sessions
     of Parliament, and was issued as an Presidential
     ordinance (executive order). This was not ratified by
     Parliament, and lapsed. The Bill returned to Parliament
     last month, and was criticised. The changes approved by
     the cabinet yesterday have not be enough for the bill
     to pass this year - the bill was not even presented in
     Parliament. This leaves the primary concern of the
     private operators - and most of the telecom
     privatisation process - dangling.
     
     Wireline licences crawl on
     
     Though cellular networks are now spreading across the
     country, as licensees nationwide begin to start
     operations, the licensing of basic services - wireline
     and fixed wireless telephony - has come to a standstill
     after a short-lived break-through in October. Then,
     five of six holders of Letters of Intent (LoIs) from
     the DoT accepted the government's offer. The private
     consortia - Reliance-Nynex, Ispat-Hughes, Tata-Bell
     Canada, Essar-Bell Atlantic, Usha Techno Teleservices
     and RPG-NTT - were worried about government policies on
     licence transferability and interconnect rates with the
     DoT's competing network. The Communications Minister -
     Beni Prasad Verma - offered to meet the private
     operators half-way - verbally, but not in writing.
     
     So while five signed the LoI, RPG-NTT - which put in a
     high bid for the Tamil Nadu circle - did not, and sued
     the DoT when it tried to encash the bidder's earnest
     money. This puts five bids in court: the highest first-
     round bidder, HFCL, sued the DoT in June, and a verdict
     was postponed this month by the Delhi High Court, to
     the middle of next month. Early this month, four of the
     five bidders sent a letter to the DoT reiterating their
     complaints (Reliance chose to keep quiet), and asked
     for the Minister's promises to be reflected in the
     licence agreement. They are also upset by the delays in
     the creation of the TRAI, without which they feel
     reluctant to sign the agreement, leave alone pay the
     first installment of their hefty licence fees.
     
     The DoT has also not gone ahead with issuing LoIs for
     three other circles, where the bidders are keen to sign
     up. One of them - Bharti-Stet for the Madhya Pradesh
     circle - is a simple case, while the other two face
     legal complications. Ispat-Hughes' bid for Karnataka
     was cleared by the courts this month; the method of
     evaluating the weighted criteria of the bid - which
     included points for rural coverage and the use of
     locally-manufactured equipment - had been contested by
     Tata-Bell Canada. Shyam-Harris' bid for Rajasthan,
     where the initial pay-out plan over the 15-year licence
     period differed from other bidders' resulting in the
     discounted present value dropping below the reserve
     price, was cleared under law with a new pay-out
     schedule. But the DoT has acted on none of these three,
     using as its perennial excuse possibly non-existent
     delays at the Law Ministry, the government's internal
     solicitors.
     
     It is difficult to fathom why the government is
     delaying the legislative and executive actions needed
     for a completion of these reforms. Every delay opens
     possibilities of further setbacks. The reluctance of
     the government to accept changes to the TRAI bill
     suggested by the parliamentary committee on telecom has
     been followed by a committee report criticising the
     entire telecom privatisation process. The committee -
     chaired by a member of India's main Communist party -
     has complained about the notional loss of some $15
     billion thanks to the caps on licences per bidder
     giving HFCL-Bezeq-Shinawatra an exit from five of its
     nine high bids; this issue stalled activity in the
     entire parliamentary session a year ago, after the
     August 1995 tenders. The committee has also questioned
     the planned roles of the DoT and private operators, as
     well as plans to corporatise the network operations of
     the DoT.
     
     The only explanation at hand for government indecision
     seems to be the Minister's preoccupation with events in
     his home state of Uttar Pradesh, where inconclusive
     recent elections led to a hung assembly, its suspension
     and the imposition of President's rule. After a short
     spell of much publicised activity in telecom affairs
     immediately after the arrest of his predecessor in the
     $4 million telecom scandal this August, the
     Communications Minister has not pushed things forward.
     
     At this rate, the Techonomist's prediction the day the
     tenders were opened - that there would be "considerable
     delays" in basic service licences - seems far from
     pessimistic. Indeed, October's forecast of a TRAI
     sometime after April 1997, with significant operational
     wireline networks not before the third quarter of next
     year, now seems almost certain.
     
     For more information, including details of cellular/wireline
     licensees, bids and the text of the TRAI Ordinance, see
     the hypertext version of this document at 
     http://dxm.org/techonomist/news/21dec96.html

The Indian Techonomist: http://dxm.org/techonomist/news/
Copyright (C) 1996 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@techonomist.dxm.org)
A4/204 Ekta Vihar 9 Indraprastha Extension New Delhi 110092 INDIA
May be distributed electronically provided that this notice is attached

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:42:17 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "VRML: Exploring Virtual Worlds on the Internet"


BKVRMLEV.RVW   960924
 
"VRML: Exploring Virtual Worlds on the Internet", Walter Goralski/Matthew
Poli/Peter Vogel, 1997, 0-13-486960-5, U$39.95/CC$55.95
%A   Walter Goralski
%A   Matthew Poli
%A   Peter Vogel
%C   One Lake St., Upper Saddle River, NJ   07458
%D   1997
%G   0-13-486960-5
%I   Prentice Hall
%O   U$39.95/CC$55.95 +1-201-236-7139 fax: 201-236-7131 beth_hespe@prenhall.com
%P   481
%T   "VRML: Exploring Virtual Worlds on the Internet"
 
So, having an Internet account no longer sets you apart?  Most of your
friends are "surfing the Web" now, too?  Some of them even have
followed your lead in setting up a Web home page?  Need to maintain
your technological superiority?  Go VRML, young man, go VRML.
 
The Virtual Reality Modeling Language is a description language for
three dimensional (virtual reality) graphical spaces.  It also has the
hypermedia linking capability that HTML (HyperText Markup Language)
gives to the World Wide Web.  Thus VRML proposes the possibility of
"browsing" through virtual malls and museums, rather than the simple
page oriented information links currently provided by the Web.
 
At the moment, that promise is more proposed than actual.  Virtual
worlds do exist in cyberspace (if you have the right browser), but
tend to be explorations of the ideas rather than useful presentations.
Still, they do exist, and this book indicates that VRML is growing:
this is a basic, user level introduction to the field.  While other
VRML books are more technical, and concentrate on the building of
3-spaces, almost half of the text here deals with the concepts (coming
close to being tedious on the subject) and the installation and use of
one of the included browsers.
 
This is, then, a book for the novice user who wants a bit of
hand-holding while getting started on VRML explorations.  The VRML
side of the text does give some instruction on simple shape creation,
but those who do want to build virtual worlds will have to look
elsewhere.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   BKVRMLEV.RVW   960924. Distribution
permitted in TELECO Digest and associated publications. 


Vancouver      roberts@decus.ca         | You realize, of
Institute for  rslade@vanisl.decus.ca   | course, that these
Research into  Rob.Slade@f733.n153.z1/  | new facts do not 
User                 .fidonet.org       | coincide with my
Security       Canada V7K 2G6           | preconceived ideas

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Subject: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 10:27:20 -0600
From: Andrew B. Hawthorn <ahawthorn@earthlink.net>


I recently moved from Atlanta to Houston and became a Southwestern
Bell customer.  When I contacted Southwestern Bell to set up my
residential service, they assigned me two phone numbers that were in
NPA 281 (which recently split from 713), despite being well inside
Beltway 8, the approximate boundary for the geographic split.  The
SWBT representative told me that all of the 713 numbers in my area had
been taken and that I would have to be assigned a 281 area code
number. It's not so much the annoyance of 10-digit dialing to old
neighbors and 7-digit dialing to new neighbors that gets me; rather,
it's the absurd fact that SWBT is changing my NPA *and* prefix within
a year.

On Saturday, I received a letter in the mail from Southwestern Bell 
explaining the terms of the 281 area code number assignment:

(From the SWBT Letter)

Dear Mr. Hawthorn:

We want to provide you with additional information concerning your
recently assigned telephone number.  The 281 number you received is
temporary and will change to 713 by the end of 1997.  This temporary
arrangement is necessary because we have run out of 713 numbers and
must fill new requests with 281 numbers resulting from the new area
code being added to Houston.

The new 281 area code is being implemented by means of a geographical
split as directed by the Public Utility Commission of Texas.  Under
this plan, central Houston and the surrounding area will keep 713.
Customers outside a boundary that roughly follows Beltway 8 will
change to 281 but keep the remaining seven digits of their telephone
numbers.  Since these 281 customers will move out of the 713 area
code, additional numbers will be available to be assigned within the
new 713 geographic boundary by the end of 1997.

Until then, it will be necessary to fill new requests for telephone
service with 281 numbers, even within the new 713 boundary, where you
reside.  That's why you received 281-290-XXXX as your temporary
number.  By the end of 1997, both your area code and your prefix (the
first three digits of your phone number - 290) will change.  Your area
code will become 713 and we will notify you of your new prefix.

We wanted to let you know about this upcoming change to enable you to 
plan appropriately for such items as personal stationary and business 
cards.

As always, we're available to visit with you concerning this change.
If you have any questions, please call our Area Code Hotline on 1 800
869-5868.  Our goal is to keep you informed as a valued customer of
Southwestern Bell.  We appreciate your business.

                         -------------

I can't find any records that indicate that there is a 713-290-XXXX
exchange.  Why couldn't they create one so that new customers could
have a 713 number and wouldn't have to change their area code or
prefix?  I find it terribly inconceivable that they are totally out of
713 numbers in my area.  Are they conserving these numbers?

I suppose I should include an asterisk after my phone numbers on my
stationary with a disclaimer reading "subject to change without
notice."


Andrew B. Hawthorn
ahawthorn@earthlink.net

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: California Area Codes; The Real Story
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:28:51 -0800


Here is my cut at what the Associated Press report SHOULD have said:

Millions of California phone customers are likely to see their area
codes change by the year 2001 under a policy adopted by the state
Public Utilities Commission.  In a 3 to 2 vote Friday, the commission
decided that in order to accommodate millions of new phone lines, area
codes running out of capacity must be split geographically.  The
decision will force an estimated 12 million to 15 million California
residents and businesses to change area codes in the next few years,
Pacific Bell projects.  The commission rejected so-called "overlay"
plans in which new area codes are introduced within the same
geographic boundaries as existing codes, adding capacity without
forcing customers to change.  [SO FAR, SO GOOD]

Of the 13 new area codes that Pacific Bell projects will be needed,
four have already received final approval.  Area codes 619 and 310
in southern California, and area codes 415 and 916 in northern
California, will all split in 1997.  In addition, plans for splits
of area code 510 in the eastern San Francisco Bay Area and area
code 818 in Los Angeles County, are nearly completed.  Plans for
splits of the 408 and 714 area codes are in preliminary stages,
and area codes 213, 209, and 805 will also require splits.  The
possibility exists that both area codes 310 and 415 will require a
second split around the year 2000.  [NEW TEXT, WITH ACTUAL FACTS]

The ruling was a setback for Pacific Bell, which had fought for the
overlay option.  The company argued that the plan would allow existing
customers to avoid printing new stationery and business cards and
notifying associates of number changes.  "The transition cost to
customers (of area code splits) will be in the tens of millions of
dollars," said Pacific Bell spokesman Dave Miller.  [MINOR CORRECTIONS]

Explaining the ruling, the commission cited surveys showing that most
consumers prefer area code splits to overlays.  In a written
statement, the commission said that "the greatest concerns about an
overlay are having a mix of codes within the same household or
business."  Further, overlays require customers to dial 11 digits even
on calls in their area code.  Most of Pacific Bell's competitors,
including major long distance companies that are entering the local
market, favor geographic splits.  If customers of the new companies
all get new area codes, many people might be reluctant to switch
providers, they fear.  [MINOR CORRECTIONS]

However, in some areas of California, particularly area code 213 in
central Los Angeles County, 11-digit dialing is already a fact of
life in an area code that covers only 9 square miles, but which will
soon border on four other area codes.  Also, telecommunications
experts point out that having to change area codes is a secondary
consideration in switching local providers -- more important is the
issue of changing the 7-digit local number.  In addition, an overlay
plan can be structured to give residential and small business
customers requesting additional lines priority in receiving spare
numbers in the old area code, to avoid having two different area
codes in the same household or small business.  Besides that, the
area code will soon be thought of in the same terms as the prefix
 -- the first three digits of a 7-digit local number -- and no one
seems confused by having different prefixes in the same household
or business.  [NEW TEXT]

Having different area codes within the same neighborhood is already
a reality in Los Angeles County, and will be moreso in the future,
whether the PUC continues with geographic splits or moves forward
into overlays.  [NEW TEXT]


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Excpet it is quite unlikely that anyone
will have two different area codes in the same private residence or
in an office, regardless of how much new service they install. Even
with an overlay plan, there always remains a small residual of 
numbers from the old area code to be used to fill in where appropriate
in existing service situations, etc.   PAT]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:56:34 EST
From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Web Page on Federal Telecom Act


   ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 06:24:43 EST
  From: Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
  Subject: Fwd: Web page on fed. Telecom. Act

  ==========  Forwarded  Message  ========

  Date:         Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:14:08 -0600
  From:         Gleason Sackman <gleason@rrnet.com>
  Subject:      RESOUR> Web page on fed. Telecom. Act
  Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:55:59 -0600 (CST)
  From: Bob Bocher <BOCHERF@MAIL.STATE.WI.US>
  Subject: Web page on fed. Telecom. Act
  To: Multiple recipients of list PACS-L <PACS-L@UHUPVM1.UH.EDU>

    ------------------------Original message-----------------------
Hi:

The federal Telecommunications Act (104-104), which passed in Feb. of
this year, holds both promise (universal service section) and problems
(CDA) for the library community.  If you have an interest in this area
I have had a Web page on the act available since about March.  It is
at:

http://www.state.wi.us/agencies/dpi/www/telecom_act.html

This page has about 50 links divided into the following three
sections.

1) General Information On The Act.  Includes actual full text of the
act, reviews, interpretations and critiques.

2) Information On Universal Service (US).  Includes the section of the
Act related to US including statements by ALA and FCC actions in this
area.

3) Information On The Communications Decency Act (CDA).  This section
includes sites tracking CDA activities and court actions on this
issue.

I hope you find this site useful.


Bob Bocher,  Library Technology Consultant
WI Dept. of Public Instruction, State Division for Libraries...
Box 7841 Madison, WI 53707   608-266-2127  fax: 608-267-1052
bocherf@mail.state.wi.us   2nd email: rbocher@mail.badgerdial.net
http://www.state.wi.us/agencies/dpi/www/lib_nii.htm

Forwarded by List Owner  --------------------------------------------
Elliott Parker                    BITNET: 3ZLUFUR@CMUVM
Journalism Dept.                  Internet: elliott.parker@cmich.edu
Central Michigan University       The WELL: eparker@well.com
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 USA        URL:mailto:3zlufur@cmich.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:12:26 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: AT&T 3.5 Cents per Minute Illinois
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


Excerpt from Full Closing Bell for Monday, Dec 23, 1996

* AT&T CORP set a basic flat rate of 3.5 cents per minute for all
  in-state local toll calls in Illinois. The long-distance
  telephone service provider said the plan will affect calls more
  than 15 miles away from the caller's home but still within the
  customer's local calling area. The new price is more than 10 %
  below rates charged by AMERITECH CORP for local toll calls, AT&T
  said. AT&T said the rate change is a shift away from a
  multi-level pricing schedule. (Reuters 11:37 AM ET 12/23/96) 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 16:58:32 -0500
From: Ed Ellers <edellers@mis.net>
Subject: Re: Replacing A Cell Phone


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most carriers will allow you to extend
> your contract another period of time to commence when the current
> contract expires. For example, you have six months to go on your two
> year contract with the cellular carrier. You need to get a new phone. 
> Ask the carrier to allow you to commit to another two year contract   in
> addition to the six months remaining on the present one. The carrier
> will refer you to a dealer who will match the ESN in your new phone with
> your existing number and deactivate the ESN in the old phone. It won't
> take but a few minutes most of the time.]

BellSouth Mobility did that for my boss a few years ago when he traded
in his car (which had a phone in place) and got a "free" phone with
the purchase of the new car.  (Since this fellow has had cellular
phones for twelve years -- always with BSM, and the first installed *a
month before* the system was turned on in Louisville -- IMHO they'd
better treat him right.  :-)

------------------------------

Reply-To: <Jeremy.Parsons@iname.com>
From: Jeremy Parsons <Jeremy.Parsons@iname.com>
Subject: A Christmas Present From the FCC
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 11:42:47 -0500


What with the FCC's musings on international settlements, I think it
would be fitting and seasonal for them to extend the principle to
exported computer software.  We could skip the study of long run
incremental cost for, for instance, the Microsoft systems and
applications because I'm sure the rest of the world would happily
accept a high figure (let's say $10 per megabyte per country).  What a
nice Christmas present that would be to the developing world! 


Jeremy Parsons

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 09:47:58 -0800
From: Julie Lumine <juliel@mtcworld.com>
Reply-To: juliel@mtcworld.com
Organization: MTC
Subject: Christmas Cheer


May an IlLUMINE-ating season bring you new hope for the new year!
 
  ...julie


 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:07:18 -0800
 From: Debra Nathan <debran@them.com>
 Subject: christmas cheer

TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION 

'Twas the night before implementation, And all through the house,     
Not a program was working,  Not even a browse. 
The programmers hung by their tubes in despair, 
With hopes that a miracle soon would be there. 
The users were nestled all snug in their beds, 
While visions of inquiries danced in their heads. 

When out of the CASIM there arose such a clatter, 
I sprang from my desk to see what was the matter. 
And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a super C++ programmer (with a six pack of beer). 
His resume glowed with experience so rare,
He turned out great code with a bit-pusher's flair. 
More rapid than HPS, his programs they came,
And he whistled and shouted and called them by name: 
On Update!   On Add!   On Inquiry!   On Delete! 
On Batch Jobs!   On Closing!   On Functions Complete! 

His eyes were glazed over, fingers nimble and lean, 
 From weekends and nights in front of a screen.
A wink of his eye, and a twist of his head, 
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, 
Turning specs in to code; then he turned with a jerk; 
And laying his finger upon the Enter key,
The system came up and worked perfectly.
The updates updated, the deletes, they deleted; 
The inquiries inquired, and closing completed. 
He tested each whistle, and he tested each bell, 
With nary an ABEND, and all had gone well.
The system was finished, the tests were concluded. 
The clients' last changes were even  included. 
And the client exclaimed with a snarl and a taunt, 
"IT'S JUST WHAT I ASKED FOR, BUT NOT WHAT I WANT!" 

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed (Steve Bagdon)
    Re: BellSouth Blows It (Nils Andersson)
    Re: 510/925 Split: My Reaction (Nils Andersson)
    Re: 510 Splits to 925 (Dave Close)
    Re: More on California Geographic Split Decision (Linc Madison)
    Re: Fourth Area Code for Colorado (John Cropper)
    Re: "Hidden Agendas" in Web Blocking Software (Glen L. Roberts)
    Re: Unheralded Deaths of 1996 - George Oslin (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Calling US 800 From UK: Answer Supervision on Recorded Msg? (G. Hills)
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    Complaining About InterNIC to the NSF (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (Louis Raphael)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (Jonathan Kamens)
    GTE's CyberPOP (J. Keith Pillow)

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From: bagdon@rust.net (Steve Bagdon)
Subject: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:21:44 -0400
Organization: Rust Net - High Speed Internet in Detroit  810-642-2276


My wife and I believe we have *finally* found our first house, so that
means I can finally wire up a property the way I've always wanted to.
We've rented up to now, so wiring a house for networking, phone
systems, television, etc, has never gotten past the planning stages -
no reason to put a lot of work into a house that we don't own!

After viewing the house, I believe I will need 6 extensions upstairs
(4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms), 6 extensions downstairs (2 in living
room, 1 in kitchen, 1 in den, 1 in bathroom, 1 in garage), 4 extensions 
in the basement (1 by the laundry, 1 by the work-area, 2 in the common
area), and 2 extensions outside (1 by the pool, and 1 in the storage
shed, both in a sealed box). I'd like 1 extension upstairs (master
bedroom), 1 extension downstairs (kitchen), and 1 extension in the
basement (by the work area, which would be where the cpu/controller
would go) to have a sufficient quantity of buttons to (a) control the
entire system and (b) be able to page every other extension in the
house. Figure that means I'll be able to limit myself to 20 extensions
total, with 3 or 4 extensions with 20-button bases.

Basically, I'm looking for an AT&T Merlin system that can handle this
setup. I don't know where the 'systems' fit into a particular scheme, ie:
max extensions, max incoming lines, etc. I'm sure I'll go against all
rules of the extension/lines ratio (I want a lot more extensions then
lines), so I figure I'll have to overbuy to get the number of extensions
that I want.

So, is there a central clearing house for used Merlin equipment (cpus,
extensions, etc) that an individual can buy from? Thanks in advance to
anyone who can recommend a particular system, and where to get it at a
reasonable price!


Steve B.  bagdon@rust.net (h)
USFMDDKT@ibmmail.com (w)
http://www.rust.net/~bagdon

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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: BellSouth Blows It
Date: 25 Dec 1996 19:40:38 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.670.3@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Ed Ellers
<edellers@mis.net> writes:

> I used to think that BellSouth was a better-than-average LEC, but at
> this point when true facilities-based competition does arrive it
> won't be a moment too soon for me.

The telcos have a corporate policy (unpublished) to the effect that
all subscribers are blithering idiots. If you tell them the problem is
at the CO, that is itself a good reason to assume that the problem is
in the outside wiring.

Out of many incidents, I remember once back in England, the phone line
suddenly would not accept incoming calls (outgoing worked normally). 
The phone would ring, but nothing I did would connect the call. I
tried various phones, even shorting the incoming line briefly. Nothing
helped. I called the GPO (General Post Office) as they were called
then, and explained the problem, including the fact that NO THEY COULD
NOT CALL ME BACK AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT, I only had one phone
line. Nor should they need one, as the problem was obviously at the
CO.

Sure enough, a day later the GPO guy appeared. As I was sharing
accommodations, somebody let them in. Not so good, as I had an
(illegal at the time) extension wired up, making me people's enemy
number 1. They did fix the problem, however, I did have to spend
another evening rewiring the extension.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: 510/925 Split: My Reaction
Date: 25 Dec 1996 19:40:42 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.671.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Telecom@Eureka.vip.
best.com (Linc Madison) writes:

> As for the prefix imbalance, which results in estimates of 2004 for
> 510 to exhaust again and 2012 or so for 925 to exhaust, by the time
> either of those dates rolls around, we'll just add overlay area codes.
> The existing geographic boundary lines will make that pretty sensible.

Overlays make more sense than anything else. The PUC objection that
this forces newcomers to have "uncool" newbie area codes is a very
minor objection, compared to having to redo stationary, phone lists
and whatever.  The time for uniquely geographical area codes is over,
folks, lets face it.

While we are at it, I am waiting for the day the feds relent on the
stupid view that you cannot assign "classes of service" by area
code. A cellphone is not "located" anywhere in particular - except
maybe in the _whole_ metro area, as far as the subscriber and the
caller are concerned, why should it not have a special area code,
917-style? (Yes, I realize that the phone is serviced by a switch that
takes the incoming calls and indeed has a geographical location, but
this is pretty transparent to everybody but the cellphone provider,
why bother anybody else with a technical detail?)


Regards,

Nils Andersson

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From: dave@compata.compata.com (Dave Close)
Subject: Re: 510 Splits to 925
Date: 25 Dec 1996 00:24:04 -0800
Organization: Compata, Costa Mesa, California


tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes, quoting Business Wire and a Pacific
Telesis press release:

> That consumption is being spurred
> by the high-technology explosion of fax machines, pagers, cellular
> phones and modems for Internet access along with the onset of local
> competition in California's telephone market.

Why do they keep perpetuating this myth? The growth in usage does
not account for the number problem. 95% of the problem is competition.

When this article hits the newspapers, like Sunday's LA Times, only
the "fax machines..." part is mentioned. The papers don't even hear
the competition phrase. It's time for PacTel and the CPUC to make the
real problem more prominent in their releases.


Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA  "Politics is the business of getting
dave@compata.com, +1 714 434 7359    power and privilege without
dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu           possessing merit." - P. J. O'Rourke

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: More on California Geographic Split Decision
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:31:53 -0800


In article <telecom16.676.8@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, tad@ssc.com (Tad
Cook) wrote (quoting an Associated Press report):

> Of the 12 new area codes that Pacific Bell projects will be needed,
> new ones have already been ordered for the southern part of the 415
> region and the 916 region outside of Sacramento County. Last week, the
> telephone industry petitioned the PUC to split parts of Contra Costa
> County from the 510 area code.

> Seven other area codes will likely split within the next few years --
> including 408, 310, 619, 818, 714, 213, 209 and 805 -- and will have
> to be approved by the commission as needed.

> The 12th new area code will be a second split for 415 by the year
> 2000, according to Pacific Bell.

This is very confusing wording.  Area codes 310 and 619 are splitting
within the next three months (310/562 on 1-25-97 and 619/760 on
3-22-97).  Is this report projecting that 310 and 619 will split
*again* by the year 2001?  The plans for area code 818/626 are nearly
finalized, too.

Of course, the other problem is that 408, 310, 619, 818, 714, 213, 209
and 805 makes EIGHT area codes, not seven, and neither 7+2 nor 8+2
makes twelve, and the existing 13 plus 12 new ones don't make the 26
that we are projected to have by 2001.  Your average eight-year-old
can count better than that!

Yet more sloppy reportage, surprise, surprise.  (Please note that Tad
was only quoting a press report -- the sloppiness is on AP's part, not
Tad's.)

As for doing a second geographic split of 415, there is only one
acceptable line for a standard two-way split, and that is the Golden
Gate.  However, Marin County accounts for only about 1/5 or so of the
exchanges in the newly-reduced 415, and I believe it is growing less
rapidly than San Francisco.  Even within San Francisco, the city is
currently divided into three rating zones.  "San Francisco 1," which
includes downtown, accounts for over 3/4 of the exchanges in the city
(182 out of 241, as of the 9/96 directory publication date).  (Marin
County has about 60 prefixes.)  Thus, even if you did a split of SF1
keeping 415 while SF2, SF3, and all of Marin move into the new area
code, that's still only about a 60/40 split by number of prefixes.  Of
course, that split would never fly politically, putting "the
neighborhoods" in an area code they share with Point Reyes but not
with downtown.

That means that we either do a very lopsided split, moving only Marin
into the new area code, and hope that lets us hold out long enough for
an overlay, or we do a three-way split, Marin/Downtown/Neighborhoods,
which would still leave downtown to do an overlay before 2010.

I also think the commissioners should be involuntarily committed to a
mental hospital for proposing to geographically split area code 213.
They are showing clear symptoms of delusional psychosis.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Fourth Area Code for Colorado
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:23:32 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Tad Cook wrote:

> U S West Requests Fourth Area Code for Colorado
> By John Branch, Gazette Telegraph, Colorado Springs, Colo.

> Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

> COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo.--Dec. 19--One year after a large part of
> Colorado was given the 970 area code, U S West Communications
> Corp. has requested a fourth calling area.

> The proposed fourth code won't change numbers in the Pikes Peak
> region, but may cause dialing and technological headaches.

> Colorado's original area code, 303, will be splintered again, pending
> approval from the Colorado Public Utilities Commission.

The article does not mention what other media sources reported:

570 was the code chosen by USWest for relief of 303 ...


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://www.the-server.com/jcbt2n/lincs/        

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:13:05 GMT
Reply-To: glr@glr.com
From: glr@glr.com (Glen L. Roberts)
Subject: Re: "Hidden Agendas" in Web Blocking Software
Organization: Full Disclosure


Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM> wrote:

> Excerpt from PRIVACY Forum Digest V05 #22

> Date:    Fri, 20 Dec 96 15:23 PST
> From:    lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)
> Subject: "Hidden agendas" in web blocking software

> Greetings.  While the ability of parents to control their children's
> access to web pages via specialized "blocking" software has been
> widely touted, it's becoming apparent that problems are already
> appearing.

For example, Cybersitter has blocked the entire domains of

pages.ripco.com
and
www.glr.com

as well as such words as phreddd and peacefire

Apparently the ripco.com and glr.com domains were blocked because of
ONE of my web pages, http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/nurse.html

Since then, I have added some more details, the blocked words I ran
across in an afternoon:

http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/badwords.html

And, a parody on the creation of Cybersitter:

http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/milburn.html

The Stalker's Home Page -- What the hell? Are you listed? Privacy?
http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/stalk.html
Tech Support Hell Hole: http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~glr/hellhole.html

------------------------------

From: hancock4@cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Re: Unheralded Deaths of 1996 - George Oslin
Date: 25 Dec 1996 21:50:51 GMT
Organization: Philadelphia City Paper's City Net


That was sad to hear.  I have his book "The Story of Telecommunications",
and it is very good (mostly on Western Union), but the Oslin was frank
about how government involvement, however well intended, hurt Western
Union at several points (such as forcing a bad merger on it.)  Oslin also
hits on bad presidents, too.

------------------------------

From: George Hills <George.Hills@ncl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Calling US 800 From UK: Answer Supervision on Recorded Msg?
Date: 25 Dec 1996 15:47:44 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne


Linc Madison (Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com) wrote:

> Apparently, on the two largest carriers, British Telecom (BT) and
> Mercury (Hg), you can simply dial 00-1-800-nxx-xxxx or what have you.

I know of no UK carriers which will refuse to connect such a call; I
know of only one calling card system which will refuse to connect
+1-800 numbers.

> for the international call.  A couple of posters have insisted that
> the intercept is provided on the U.S. side, and that it returns answer
> supervision at the beginning of the recorded intercept, rather than at
> the point where the called number actually answers.  They have bills
> to prove that they were charged for calls to non-working U.S.  800
> numbers, where clearly the call couldn't complete.

The announcement has a US accent, and it's the same over every carrier 
I've tried. Doesn't /necessarily/ mean it's on the US side, though if 
anyone can suggest how it could possibly be UK based I'd be interested.

It's not just a matter of bills. Mercury customers can request (indeed, 
used to have whether they wanted it or not) a "beep" when a call 
supervises. It beeps directly the announcement starts.

> if it is a U.S. intercept, we supposedly know how to do that without
> returning answer supervision.

This is done perfectly successfully for other announcements.

> because of the presence of a voice without SITs?  Also, what happens
> if the 800 number you're calling from the U.K. happens to be, for
> example, Canada-only?

If someone would like to provide a list of area-specific or
country-specific 800 and 888 numbers, I'd be only too happy to play
with a few ...


George
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/strowger

------------------------------

From: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au (David Clayton)
Subject: The Hornet's Nest (was WebTV and CoyoteNet; Minority Report)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:57:33 GMT
Organization: Customer of Access One Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia


Our Esteemed Editor contributed the following:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your point is good in the sense that
> there are so many 'old timers' on the net -- myself included -- who
> talk about 'their net' as though they did have some ownership rights.
> I'll admit it, I am guilty of it also. The fact is, very few of us
> own anything except our own computers (and maybe our employer owns
> that also ... ) and we participate here purely through the good will
> of the companies/institutions which do pay the bills. So readers,
> how *do* you defend your feelings of ownership if you do, and what
> right *do* you have to say the direction things should be going?

It this really an issue?, as other posters have pointed out the 'net'
is growing all the time, and maybe there is enough space in this
bigger 'net' to have something like the 'net' you once knew and loved,
(the "old timers sub-net" maybe :-) ?).

I don't consider myself an 'old timer' by any stretch of the
imagination so I don't consider myself to have any ownership rights to
the 'net'. I am just grateful that this medium, which more and more
people have access to for sharing information around this planet,
exists.

This newsgroup is part of the 'net' that I appreciate, there are other
parts that I could live without, like the growing junk e-mails etc.,
but as a trade off to having access to this stuff, I'm willing to live
with it.

In a perfect world, these problems would not occur, but on this planet
at this time - well, enough of the obvious. And who knows, maybe
technology will allow some sort of method to insulate us, (if we
desire), from some of the annoying stuff?

Hang in there Pat, there may be a lot more garbage around but you can
still appreciate finding "a jewel in the junk heap", I know I have.

PS:  Thanks again for all of the work you've put in on this newsgroup,
I'm pretty sure that it's very much appreciated by many others as
well.


Regards, 

David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for your kind note of support.
Maybe I can use it as a lead in to the first of what I hope will not
be very many pitches to readers to please send in your annual donation
to the Digest at this time for 1997. I had to go take a new job a
couple weeks ago to get a few past due bills paid off; this has left
only about half the time for the Digest I had a month ago. Please do
on the web pagwhat you can, and remember that corporate sponsorships
are welcome on the telecom web page as well. Please do what you can
so that I can start 1997 fresh. Write to TELECOM Digest,  PO Box 4621,
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From: rishab@nntp.best.com (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh)
Subject: Complaining About InterNIC to the NSF
Date: 25 Dec 1996 21:40:30 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications


> From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@cam.ov.com>
> Subject: The InterNIC: a case study in bad database management

As this is the fourth time jik's post has landed up in my mailbox, I
guess I better quote from my reply to him:

 To: jik@cam.ov.com 
 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:50:53 -0800 (PST) 
 From: rishab@dxm.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) 
 
http://rs.internic.net/nsf/agreement/ is a directory containing 
the 1993 contract between NSI and the NSF, and four amendments 
including last year's one allowing for fees. Contact persons, 
addresses and sometimes phone numbers are there too, for NSI and 
the NSF. As the agreement requires NSI to submit 10 (yes, ten!) 
hard copies of a progress report, plan and budget to the NSF 
each January 31st, the NSF may actually intend to do something 
about complaints on quality of service. 
 
Do try to publicise this URL. The NSI-NSF deal appears shrouded 
in mystery in most discussions I see. 

 
Best, 

Rishab 
[...] 

First Monday - The Peer-Reviewed Journal on the Internet 
http://www.firstmonday.dk/  Munksgaard International Publishers, Copenhagen 
 
International Editor - Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (ghosh@firstmonday.dk) 
Mobile +91 11 98110 14574; Fax +91 11 2209608; Tel +91 11 2454717 
A4/204 Ekta Apts., 9 Indraprastha Extn, New Delhi 110092 INDIA 

------------------------------

From: Louis Raphael <raphael@qc.com.NOSPAM>
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:39:14 -0500
Organization: PubNIX Montreal


I have also had problems with the InterNIC and my domain. Of all the
things one would think they would forget to send, the last would be
the bill. They never sent it. *I* finally called them to pay, because
I knew that they'd be cutting the domain off otherwise. That was
months ago.  Still no sign of the bill, either by e-mail or postal
(and I *did* specify postal on the template). My address is correctly
entered in the contact/domain WHOIS information.

Things that make you wonder ... I think that the new iTLDs proposed by
IANA should help solve the problem.


Louis

------------------------------

From: jik@cam.ov.com (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: 24 Dec 1996 14:19:50 GMT
Organization: OpenVision Technologies, Inc.


In article <telecom16.677.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, hillary@hillary.net
(Hillary Gorman) writes:

> Sending a fax on Foo, Inc letterhead, or a certified letter on same,
> is what I have been advised to do, what NIC reps on the ISP mailing
> list have suggested, and it works for me and many others ...

Um, are you sure what you describe works for exactly the situation I
described?

I'm not talking about a domain, netblock, or netnumber record related
to Foo, Inc.  I'm talking about a contact record for an individual who
used to work for Foo, Inc.

I explicitly asked the InterNIC (when I finally got to speak to
someone who seemed to know what she was talking about) if I could do
what you describe to remove the out-of-date data in that contract
record.  She told me no, explicitly, several times.  "The only entity
that can modify a contact record is the individual identified in that
contact record."

So, which of these do you think is the case? (1) You were confused
about exactly what I was trying to do, and the cases in which you used
a letter on company letterhead were not analogous to this case; (2)
The woman to whom I spoke to on the phone was wrong; (3) Some of the
people who process contact change requests will accept a letter as
you've described, some of them won't, and which one I end up getting
when I send such a letter is the luck of the draw.


Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   jik@cam.ov.com

------------------------------

From: keithpillow@sylvaninfo.net
Subject: GTE's CyberPOP
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 18:19:37 GMT


Has anybody gotten any information on this, other than that it exists?
I've read the press release.  What's it cost?  What are the
particulars?

I checked their web pages and supposedly you can get more info at
http://www.gte.com/cgi-bin/contact/cyberpop/Cando/Carrier/Docs/Wired/cyber2.html

But the form there sends your request to a bogus address:
cyberpopinfo@telops.gte.com

No one at GTE (that I've encountered so far) knows anything about it.

What's the deal?


J. Keith Pillow, President           
Sylvan Information Services, Inc.    
84 Main Street  PO Box 1295          
Warsaw, VA 22572___www.sylvaninfo.net

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Subject: TELECOM Digest V16 #680

TELECOM Digest     Fri, 27 Dec 96 08:16:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 680

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    List of Military Government Reports on Telecom Topics (Michael Ravnitzky)
    BellSouth Launches Bid For Ownership in Tele 2000 (Mike King)
    And the New Number is ... 949 (Mike King)
    Competition for WebTV (Lauren Weinstein)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (oldbear@arctos)
    Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net (Shawn Barnhart)
    Anti CallerID? (Eduardo Kaftanski)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (David Clayton)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Ari Ollikainen)

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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:56:42 -0600
From: Michael Ravnitzky <MikeRav@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: MikeRav@ix.netcom.com
Subject: List of Military Government Reports on Telecom


DO YOU WANT A LIST OF REPORTS ON THE SUBJECT OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS?

You can get a list of [largely unpublished] military technical reports
on telecommunications and related topics.  Many of these reports have
been locked away for various bureaucratic reasons and have not been
put into the public domain.

Here are some subject keywords with which you can obtain a LIST of
several hundred military technical reports on telecommunications and
related subjects from the Defense Technical Information Center, a
government agency. [see below]

KEYWORDS:

telecommunications, telephone systems, modems, telephone communication 
systems, telecommunication circuits, telephone equipment, telephone 
cables, telephone transmitters, telephone lines, telephone amplifiers, 
telephone receivers, telephone signals, ship telephone systems, 
communication equipment, sound powered telephones, underwater 
telephones, multichannel communications, pulse communications, telegraph 
systems, voice communications, demodulators, phase locked 
communications, modulators, radiotelephones, videophones, adaptive 
communications, secure communications, teletype systems, telemeter 
systems, communication switching centers, underwater communications, 
global communications, intercommunication systems, data links, microwave 
communications, optical communications, radio links, radio relay 
systems, space communications, circuits, digital communications, 
transmission lines, communication and radio systems

IMPORTANT NOTE:  Do not bother using the DTIC web site -- in a nutshell,
it is worthless because the web site omits most of the two million
technical reports in the DTIC collection. [Most of these reports are
NOT, repeat NOT, repeat NOT in the NTIS collection, and have been
unavailable to the public.]  Send a letter instead -- you will get much
better results.

The fee is likely to be free or only a few bucks.  You probably want
to include a statement in the letter such as *I agree to pay
reasonable fees associated with this request.  Please notify me if the
cost will exceed $25.*, so that they won't delay the processing of the
request.  Remember, they WILL try to dissuade you from asking for such
a list.  If they send you a letter, and you do not respond, they will
withdraw your request and you will not get your information.

Here is a form letter to use for your request:

To:    Defense Technical Information Center
       Attn:  DTIC-RSM [Kelly D. Akers, FOIA Manager]
       8725 John J. Kingman Road, Suite 0944
       Fort Belvoir, VA  22060-6128  USA
Phone:  703-767-9194

Dear Ms. Akers:

I request the following records under the provisions of the Freedom of
Information Act:

A computer generated technical report bibliography of reports on the
subject[s]/keyword[s] of:

________________  OR   _________________  OR  ________________  OR

 _______________   OR   _________________  OR   _______________

Please send me this biography for this period of time: (choose one)

_______ ALL YEARS IN YOUR COMPUTERIZED INDEX

_______ the past 10 years only

_______ the past 20 years only

_______ all years in your manual card index (1940's and early 1950's)

This is a request for DTIC records; please don't forward my request to
NTIS.  Please include both classified and unclassified records in your
search.  If any of the records are classified, please review them for
release, or the release of nonsensitive portions.

I am an individual, noncommercial requester and this request is not
being made for commercial purposes.  [OR YOU MIGHT INSTEAD INDICATE
DIFFERENTLY IF YOU ARE A COMMERCIAL REQUESTER, OR AN EDUCATIONAL OR
SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTION, OR A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MEDIA]  I also agree
to pay up to $25 for reasonable fees associated with this request.


Sincerely,

                          ______________


I hope you find this a useful resource.


Michael Ravnitzky
MikeRav@ix.netcom.com

------------------------------

From: Mike King <mk@wco.com>
Subject: BellSouth Launches Bid For Ownership in Tele 2000
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:10:47 PST



 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 09:56:37 -0500 (EST)
 From: BellSouth <press@www.bellsouth.com>
 Subject: BELLSOUTH LAUNCHES BID FOR OWNERSHIP IN TELE 2000

BELLSOUTH LAUNCHES BID FOR OWNERSHIP IN TELE 2000

ATLANTA - BellSouth Corporation (NYSE: BLS) announced today a public
tender offer to buy approximately 54 to 64 percent of Peruvian
communications company Tele 2000. 

BellSouth's bid is contingent upon the company's acquisition of at
least 54 percent of Tele 2000's outstanding shares at the offering
price of $1.50 per share.  Shareholders of Tele 2000 have two weeks,
or ten business days, to tender their shares.

Tele 2000 holds cellular rights to serve Lima and portions of western
Peru. It also provides cable TV and paging communications. 

BellSouth has agreed to purchase the major portion of its acquisition,
38 percent of Tele 2000, from two major sharholders including Tele
2000's chairman, Genaro Delgado Parker.  Assuming BellSouth's public
tender offer is successful, BellSouth and Parker would end up holding
a combined minimum of 90 percent of Tele 2000's capital stock.

BellSouth's acquisition of 54 percent ownership of Tele 2000 would be
worth an estimated $100 million.

BellSouth provides telecommunications, wireless communications,
directory advertising and publishing, video, Internet and other
information services to more than 26 million customers in 17 countries
worldwide.


For more information, contact:
Tim Klein
404-249-4135

Kevin Doyle 
404-249-2793


                                 ------------------ 

Mike King   *   Oakland, CA, USA   *   mk@wco.com

------------------------------

From: Mike King <mk@wco.com>
Subject: And the New Number is ... 949
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:14:18 PST


 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:54:03 -0800
 From: sqlgate@sf-ptg-fw.pactel.com
 Subject: NEWS: And the New Number is ... 949


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
David A. Dickstein
(213) 975-4074
dadicks@legal.pactel.com


And the New Number is ... 949

Plan Filed to Split Orange County's 714 Area Code

LOS ANGELES -- An area code relief plan has been submitted to the
California Public Utilities Commission that would split the 714 area
code in Southern California's Orange County and create a new area code
 -- 949 -- to serve the county's southern half.

California Code Administrator Bruce Bennett submitted the 714 area
code relief plan earlier this month to the Commission for review and
final approval. Bennett said the plan is supported by the
telecommunications industry and reflects customer input received
during three public meetings in June.

Bennett said the Commission also will be asked to determine the new
area code's introduction date. Most members of the telecommunications
industry have asked the Commission to move up the scheduled
introduction date by six months from April 18, 1998 to October 18,
1997, due to rapid phone number usage in the 714 area code.

Under the 714 area code relief plan, the existing 714 area code --
which serves most of Orange County -- would be split near the county's
geographic center. The details are as follows:

Most existing 714 customers in the northern portion of Orange County
would keep the 714 area code. Some of the communities that would
remain entirely in the 714 include: Anaheim, Buena Park, Cypress,
Fountain Valley, Fullerton, Garden Grove, Huntington Beach, Orange,
Placentia, Seal Beach, Stanton, Westminster and Yorba Linda. The
majority of customers in Santa Ana and Tustin would also keep the 714
area code. The 714 area code would also continue to serve very small
portions of Brea, La Mirada, La Palma, Los Alamitos and La Habra.

Most existing 714 customers in the southern portion of Orange County
would receive the new 949 area code. Some of the communities to be
served by the 949 include: Aliso Viejo, Balboa, Capistrano Valley,
Corona del Mar, Dana Point, Laguna Beach, Laguna Niguel, Lake Forest,
Mission Viejo, Newport Beach, San Clemente, San Juan Capistrano, and
Santa Ana Heights. Most customers in Irvine would also receive the new
949 area code.

Several communities located along the new 714/949 split line border
would be served by both area codes, meaning part of the community
would stay 714 and part would receive the new 949. In Irvine, for
instance, most of the city would be served by 949, except a small
portion to stay 714. Other cities that would be served by both area
codes include: Santa Ana and Tustin, which primarily remain 714 and
Costa Mesa, which would be divided in half by the two area codes.

In planning area code splits, Bennett said the industry tries to avoid
dividing cities. "However, sometimes this cannot be avoided because
telephone wire center serving boundaries do not necessarily coincide
with city and county lines," he said, explaining that the telephone
wireline network has been in place for many years, while political
boundaries have changed over time. "Consequently, we cannot always
follow political boundary lines and still gain adequate area code
relief."

The Commission is expected to issue a final decision on the 714 area
code relief plan as early as January. Persons who wish to comment on
the plan may write to the:

California Public Utilities Commission
President P. Gregory Conlon
505 Van Ness Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94102

Bennett said two 714 geographic split options were presented to the
public for comment during meetings in June. Both plans used a
north/south Orange County split to create a new area code and were
very similar, except one also kept Huntington Beach, Westminster and
half of Fountain Valley in the 714 area code.

"In general, the public preferred the plan that included Huntington
Beach, Westminster and Fountain Valley in 714 due to a strong
community of interest between these cities and other nearby cities in
the 714," Bennett said. "There was also a concern that Santa Ana,
being the county seat, should remain in the 714.

"We were able to make those adjustments, although it shortens the life
of the 714 area code by almost a year." Other adjustments to the
original plan included keeping all, rather than only part, of Fountain
Valley in 714, Bennett said.

As proposed, the new 949 area code would last 18 to 22 years, while the
reconfigured 714 would last four to five years.

While customers who receive the new 949 area code will have to change
the area code portion of their telephone number, the new three-digit
code will not affect the price of telephone calls in any of these
areas, Bennett said. "Call distance determines call price and is not
impacted by the creation of a new area code," he said. "What is a
local call now will remain a local call regardless of the area code
change.

"It's also important for customers to know that PBX's (private phone
systems), auto-dialers, alarms and other telecommunications equipment
will have to be re-programmed to recognize the new area codes," said
Bennett, adding that people should check with their equipment vendors
to see if their equipment needs to be reprogrammed. "Historically,
area codes always had either a "1" or a "0" as the middle digit for
identification purposes, but all of those codes have been used." These
new number combinations allow area codes to be any three digits from
220 to 999, creating an additional 5 billion telephone numbers
nationwide, Bennett said.

Bennett also noted that when the new 949 area code is introduced,
there will be a six-month "permissive" dialing period during which
callers can dial either the old 714 or new 949 area code.

Orange County is the latest in a series of regions in California
requiring area code relief. Today, California has 13 area codes, more
than any other state. Plans call for doubling that number from 13 to
26 over the next five years to keep up with the state's record
telephone number consumption. That consumption is being spurred by the
high-technology explosion of fax machines, pagers, cellular phones and
modems for Internet access along with the onset of local competition
in California's telephone market. Ten of the 13 new area codes will be
introduced by the end of 1998.

Plans for the 714 area code were collectively developed by a
telecommunications industry group representing more than 30 companies,
including Pacific Bell, GTE, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, AirTouch, Pagenet,
AT&T Wireless, MFS Communications Co., Teleport Communications Group
(TCG), the California Cable Television Association and others.

                       -----------------
 
Mike King   *   Oakland, CA, USA   *   mk@wco.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Dec 96 11:32:00 PST
From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein)
Subject: Competition for WebTV


Greetings.  Look, let's boil this all down to the essentials.  What
WebTV really has done is build a vertically integrated "TV Typewriter"
service (that's a term we used in the 70's for computer terminals
displaying on ordinary televisions).

They've organized the dialup facilities and proxy servers, added some
graphics support and the ability to minimally deal with a couple of
popular specialized net multimedia clients (at least until the RAM
runs out...)  They've squeezed about as much out of a flickering, 60
Hz, interlaced NTSC TV display as is probably possible given current
technology.  This all took significant work.

But the real money maker for WebTV no doubt revolves around the
monthly service.  It's a box that can *only* be used with their
service, even though for most people the end-user Web sites they're
looking at could of course be accessed through any ISP.  Already I'm
seeing ads and reports of other similar "TV Typewriter" systems that
do allow use with *any* ISP, using standard PPP.  True, there may not
initially be as much "customization" of the screen displays for the
limited NTSC format, but many users may find the ability to use their
hometown ISP, often at a significantly lower cost per month, to be
highly desirable.  It'll be interesting to see how WebTV fares as
these other boxes become available.

One other point.  At least one of these other boxes has a credit card
reader built-in, so as to "simplify" on-line purchases.  Well, at
least they're being up front about it all.  Because there are two
categories of applications that at least some of the manufacturers of
such systems may feel will be especially satisfied by the NTSC display
technology.  One is home shopping.  The other is porn viewing.  Big
surprise, huh?


 --Lauren--
http://www.vortex.com

------------------------------

From: oldbear@arctos.com (The Old Bear)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 09:36:34 -0500
Organization: The Arctos Group - http://www.arctos.com/arctos


jik@cam.ov.com (Jonathan I. Kamens) writes:

> hillary@hillary.net (Hillary Gorman) writes:

>> Sending a fax on Foo, Inc letterhead, or a certified letter on same,
>> is what I have been advised to do, what NIC reps on the ISP mailing
>> list have suggested, and it works for me and many others ...

> Um, are you sure what you describe works for exactly the situation I
> described?

> I'm not talking about a domain, netblock, or netnumber record related
> to Foo, Inc.  I'm talking about a contact record for an individual who
> used to work for Foo, Inc.

I've run into a similar problem.  I am tech contact for a domain whose
owner (and admin/billing contact) parted company with a particular ISP
over a billing dispute and then had problems moving the domain to
another ISP because InterNIC would not recognize email coming from a
different email address.

Here was the scenario:

     1.  John opens an account with an ISP and is 
         assigned an email address of john@isp.net.

     2.  John sends email to obtain a domain john.com.

     3.  Internic creates a record for john.com, listing 
         John as admin contact with email address john@isp.net.

     4.  John has billing dispute with ISP, which closes his 
         account.  John opens a new account with a new ISP.

     5.  Coincidently, John moves to a new snail-mail address 
         and phone number at about the same time.

     6.  Try though he may, he cannot change his contact 
         record at internic to reflect his new ISP or new 
         address information because internic will only accept 
         changes sent from john@isp.net.

     7.  John is able to get his domain name moved to the 
         new ISP only because InterNIC is able to do this 
         upon request from the Technical Contact, whose information
         has not changed.

Still, it took two telephone calls from me as tech contact and a
certified letter including the signature of the domain owner
(admin/billing contact), notarized and with a photocopy of the
individual's driver's license seemed to solve the problem of getting
the domain record changed and updated.

However, even though the certified letter also included a request to
update the contact record, that change did not occur.  Hence, the
domain owner was unable to update snail-mail address and phone number,
and did not received his billing which was sent by snail-mail to his
old street address and via email to his old ISP email address.

Multiple submissions of the specified update forms via email proved 
absolutely futile.  Sometimes submission was acknowleged, sometimes not.  
Regardless, the contact record never changed.

Finally, under threat of cancellation, I sent InterNIC a check via 
certified mail with another request to update the record.

This had to be followed by a telephone call with another half hour on 
hold.  The record is now correct (except for the phone number -- don't 
ask!) and, I believe, the registration fee is current for another year.

The entire process took four LD phone calls ranging in length from 35
minutes to over an hour, two certified letters, over a dozen pieces of
email -- and, because of the apparent randomness of the solution, I
still don't know what to do if this or a similar problem ever occurs
again.

Having worked part of my life in government and being married to a
tax-code-reading CPA, I have seen a lot of bureaucracy.  However, I
have never been so frustrated as I was in dealing with InterNIC on
what should have been a simple matter.

I know that InterNIC would prefer to do 100% of this stuff via email
using some kind of password or encryption scheme.  But there is no
system on the face of the planet which does not have exceptions ... and
there has to be a simple process for the filing of affidavits or some
such.  Even the California Dept of Motor Vehicles, the Social Security
Administration, and the IRS (which I believe are the three biggest
record-based operations in the U.S.) each have systems for exception
handling.


Cheers,

The Old Bear

PS: Ironic thought: ever wonder why the Internic never seems to screw
up those dozens of impenetrable interlocking domains and records which
belong to the great spam-generating sites like BEST.COM and EARTHSTAR.COM?

------------------------------

Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net
From: swb@mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Shawn Barnhart)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:36:36 -0600
Organization: Chaos


In comp.dcom.telecom TELECOM Digest Editor noted:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: On the other hand Robert, I have seen
> some changes around here in the past couple years caused by the
> intrusion of big business and the mass media into the net which have
> in my opinion produced some perfectly dreadful results. A lot of those
> people basically just moved in and took over, not knowing anything
> about net history or culture, and rarely caring about it either way.

I'd have to agree here.  However, as an employee of an advertising
agency that has "moved in" on the net, I can say that the "culture and
standards" of the internet ARE preached to our clients when we
pitch/demo web sites.  We go into some depth about the need to NOT send
junk email and abuse the data collection ability of web sites. We
mention horror stories of web sites taken down, hacked, mailbombed or
otherwise mangled when the operators side- or overstepped the "culture
and standards".  And most of all we try to explain to them, in a way
that marketers understand, that you don't want to try to insult your
target market.  One advantage of the internet is that in many ways it
does have a definable demographic that mirrors the "computer
personality".  Not as much as it may have ten years ago, but then again
computers are more widespread and the "computer personality" is not as
narrow as it once ways. 

Part of the problem, though, is that the "culture and standards" of
the internet are pretty nebulous concepts.  I could imagine that
trying to define them in toto would start a flamewar that would make
Mac v. PC or UNIX v. NT seem like a North Dakota bridge club
discussion of how to best make hot dish.  There never have been
defined "standards" much beyond Emily Postnews' Guide to USENET
Ettiquette that I've seen.  Sure, everyone has "ideas" of what they
are but getting more than three people from different "regions" to
agree to them beyond the vaguest of principles is impossible.  Many of
the "principles" seem to revolve around respecting certain technical
limitations which are eased or eliminated on a regular basis.  (e.g.,
attaching unwanted binaries to email.  Still a no-no -- but originated
as such because of limits on external link bandwidth, disk space, etc.
As those limits evaporate for a lot of people, a binary in email isn't
that big of a deal as it used to be).

In a way, I think that some of the hackers that sysadmins love to hate
almost provide a kind of justice to the bigger .com entities when they
overstep their bounds.  I think the threat (real or imagined) that
SPAM or junk mailing may result in retaliatory hacking, mailbombing,
etc has kept some of the more agressive marketers in line.  I also
think that there is a genuine desire among reputable marketing
entities to work WITH the internet rather than to try to reshape it
into another TV channel.

For most marketers the concept of an interactive medium is new to
them.  They're used to getting some phone calls and letters from users
of their products, but the idea that people can so easily talk back to
them via email (or about them to a large audience on USENET) is a
little intimidating and the reshaping of the marketer-consumer
relationship that an interactive medium entails will take them a
little getting used to.


Shawn Barnhart
swb@mercury.campbell-mithun.com

------------------------------

From: ekaftan@ns.rdc.cl (Eduardo Kaftanski)
Subject: Anti CallerID?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 00:54:07 -0300
Organization: RdC S.A.


Hi,

	I have just finished a chat with a local 'cracker' who told me
he was using an anti CallerID device ...

	Suposedly he can force a false caller id to be logged in my
boxes.

	I don't believe him, but I am forced to ask ...


Thanks,

Eduardo Kaftanski	|Poco das cuando das tus pertenencias,
ekaftan@rdc.cl		|Das realmente cuando das de ti.
Beeper: 7378087 C/5271	|Gibran Khalil Gibran, El profeta, Dar y Recibir.
			|http://www.rdc.cl/~ekaftan


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There exist attachments for the phone
which will automatically prepend *67 (which is the commonly used code
for witholding caller-id) to the start of every dialing string. The
'cracker' is not defeating caller-id; he is simply using the telco-
given arrangements for privacy. Regarding 'forcing a false caller-id
to appear on your box', I would have challenged him to do it; to
really *do it*. We have had this discussion here before a couple of
times and a few obscure methods were presented by readers which for
all intents and purposes are very unlikely to be used with any degree
of regularity. Generally speaking, it does not happen.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au (David Clayton)
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 03:57:31 GMT
Organization: Customer of Access One Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia


kk@iki.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen) contributed the following:

Lots cut regarding GSM specs ...

> [If anyone's interested, the 900 MHz GH338 is being sold here for
> FIM 2690 (lowest), that's USD 581 or DEM 901. Bundling with a
> contract is prohibited to ensure fair competition and low network
> traffic fees.]

Sounds like a good idea, the myriad of bundled contracts on offer here
in Australia, (mostly to stop carrier "churning" as we have a choice
of 3 GSM carriers virtually Australia wide), are responible for lots
of consumer confusion and are the main cause of complaints to our
industry watchdog.


Regards, 

David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

------------------------------

From: Ari Ollikainen <ari@interserve.com>
Subject: Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:12:43 -0800
Reply-To: ari@interserve.com


Stuart Jeffery wrote:

> The reason you can't roam between Sprint Spectrum/APC and PBMS in San
> Jose is PBMS network in San Jose is not yet commercially operating.
> You might be able to roam now between Sprint Spectrum/APC and PBMS in
> San Diego. If you can't, it is most likely a business issue, coupled
> with some inter network technical subtleties, which are being rapidly
> resolved. 

In actuality, the reason the REAL Sprint (Spectrum) PCS won't support
roaming with PBMS or any other GSM operator is that SprintPCS is
deploying CDMA, NOT GSM, everywhere EXCEPT Spectrum/ APC in the DC
area!

------------------------------

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TELECOM Digest     Fri, 27 Dec 96 09:02:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 681

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    L,H,O Pad Formulas Required (Dale Laluk)
    Can You Recomend a Small Business Switch? (Michael Ayotte)
    Cellular Network Simulation Packages? (Ravi Prakash)
    Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS (Eric Friedebach)
    Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report (Jay R. Ashworth)
    Re: GTE's CyberPOP (John Rice)
    Re: More on California Geographic Split Decision (John Cropper)
    Re: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers (John R. Levine)
    Re: California PUC Split on NPA Splits (Nils Andersson)
    Re: NPA 570 For Colorado (Nils Andersson)
    Pager Scam - or Wrong Number? (Michael Schuster)

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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 96 20:48:00 PST
From: lunarcom@computime.bc.ca (Dale Laluk)
Subject: L,H,O Pad Formulas Required


I am interfacing some audio circuits to the KSU at this location and
need some padding. I don't remember the formulas for L,H,O Pads and
what is the benefits of each one over the other, etc. Does someone
have this up on the internet or can reply or fax me details ? I am in
a very remote location of Northern British Columbia Canada and the
local library doesn't have anything to guide me.

TIA.

------------------------------

From: mja-usenet@ayotte.com (Michael Ayotte)
Subject: Can You Recomend a Small Business Switch?
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:32:31 -0800
Organization: Bit Bucket


I thought this would be the appropriate place to get advice on a good
small business switch. We have around 40-50 phone lines on a centrex
system. We use Pacbell for our voicemail, and currently have one ISDN
BRI. We may need more BRIs or a single PRI/FT1/T1 in the future, but
if its cost prohibitive, we could have these bypass the switch.

We would like to see what it would cost, and what it would save us in
the long run to purchase/lease a switch with voicemail capabilities?

On a related note, we are investigating remote access (Appletalk and
IP) options for around 4-16 users over analog modems (perhaps an ISDN
TA or two will pop up in the future). Are there switches that
incorporate this funtion? Are they good at the job?

Any advice would be appriciated, especially from small business
customers.  But manufacturers comments are welcome as well. It may be
usefull to post the comments here (althought I am not sure that the
group charter allows manufactuers to post), or you are welcome to
email me at the address listed in my signature.

Thanks in advance.


Michael Ayotte <mja-usenet@ayotte.com>

------------------------------

From: prakash@cs.rochester.edu (Ravi Prakash)
Subject: Cellular Network Simulation Packages?
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:41:56 GMT


I am looking for commercial as well as non-commercial simulation
packages for cellular networks. I would like to simulate the
performance of some of my distributed algorithms for channel
allocation and location management.

In the past I have used general purpose process-based simulation
packages like CSIM (from MCC) for my simulations. However, it gets
progressively painful and time-consuming as the granularity of
simulation gets finer.

So, any pointers to suitable simulation packages and their
documentation will be highly appreciated.


With best regards,

Ravi Prakash				prakash@cs.rochester.edu
Department of Computer Science		www.cs.rochester.edu/u/prakash	
University of Rochester			Phone: (716) 275-5492
Rochester, NY 14627-0226.		Fax:   (716) 461-2018

------------------------------

From: Eric Friedebach <aerostar@ccia.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 07:56:30 EST
Subject: Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS


In 1987 I signed up for an 800 number from MCI for my small business
that sells technical data for old aircraft. This gave me a certain
edge over some of the other folks in the same business. Having an 800
number in those times was not very common within my market.

A little side benefit I found was that I could call into the office on
my 800 number while out of town cheaper and easier than with a calling
card. From a payphone.

Fast forward ten years: the distribution of 800 numbers has exploded. 
So much so that we had to go to 888. The 800/888 market has gone
beyond the business market to the consumer market. We now hear cries
of protest about access charges from people that rely on payphones/
COCOTS to call home on their own 800/888 number. Same goes for calling
cards.

But wait a minute here. That big metal box with the handset attached to 
it found in various public places is called a *PAYphone*. If it is a big 
metal box of lesser regard it called a COCOT as in *Customer Owned COIN 
Operated Telephone*. In other words, by their very definition, they work 
when you pay for them to do so.

Maybe a more informed TELECOM Digest reader/poster like Mark Cuccia
can correct me here but was not the 800 service originally designed
for business use such as customer service/incoming sales? At least
that was my intention back in 1987. The possibility of a customer
calling me from a payphone did not figure in.

Nowadays I also market discount calling cards and 800/888 numbers for 
home/consumer use. I don't like the thought of my customers having to 
shell out some extra money if they are using a payphone/COCOT since our 
marketing efforts have in the past focused on the *free factor* but 
maybe that's our own fault to start with.

As this whole subject settles down, I guess the concept (and cost) of 
using a public telephone to access your own number will be acceptable.
 
So goes the free market. 


Eric Friedebach    aerostar@ccia.com

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From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: WebTV and CoyoteNet; a Minority Report
Date: 26 Dec 1996 23:56:51 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida


Brett Frankenberger (brettf@netcom.com) wrote:

> In article <telecom16.664.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, <hisys@rmi.net >
> wrote:

> There never has been a "Net Culture".  The net is just silicon and
> copper.  What manifested itself as the Net Culture had less to do with
> the Net and more to do with the people on the Net.  When the Net was
> less accessible, it took a certain type of person to get onto it (i.e.
> University Research Type or at least a Hacker-type with some friends
> who know how to get on).  As the Net became more accessible, it
> expanded around these circles.  

I think perhaps you intrepret that phrase a little too tightly, Brett.

What you describe in your next graf:

> For example, anyone at a University could get an account without
> having a specific research need ... and bulletin boards, etc, began to
> connect to the net so that any computer-geek, instead of just
> well-connected (no pun intended) computer-geeks, could get on.  What
> we then wound up with was, not a culture of the Net, but rather, the
> culture of the people who made up the Net manifesting itself on the
> Net.  The Net only facilitates letting these kinds of people get
> togethor.  Rather than discussing on the telephone what I was
> interested in with people who shared that interest, I could discuss it
> over the Net.  And reach many more people who shared my interests that
> way.

is precisely what I think he meant, and is certainly what _I_ mean,
when I use the phrase "Net Culture".

> This will not change.  I am not the "couch potato - I pay you to keep
> me informed type" and I (hopefully) never will be.  Nor will I ever
> use the Net in that fashion.  Unfortunately, personality types such as
> those of the people who initially made up the Net are a minority in
> society.  And, as a result, as the Net becomes more ubiquitous, such
> personality types will also become a minority on the Net.  This is
> neither a good thing or a bad thing

I disagree.  It is the nature of social groups that the majority tend
to guide the decisions made concerning the group's existence, and
therefile the directions in which it is inclined to go.  The shape of
the Internet is, in large part, what it is today, because of the
attitudes and intentions of the people who shaped it.

> -- it is probably somewhat of a
> bad thing that the majority of the population wants to sit in front of
> X (whether X is WebTV or broadcast TV or whatever) and be entertained,
> but that was a bad thing before the web existed. But the increase in
> mindless content doesn't decrease the mindful content.

I'm not sure that _this_ will turn out to be true, either, but we'll
see.

> The difference is that the
> couch-potato next door (figuratively speaking -- no offense to my
> neighbors :) ) can post about his favorite Bay Watch episode, or
> whatever he wishes.

> The only disappointment I see is for those who had hoped that the
> Internet would revolutionize society.  Turn all couch-potatos into
> actual, thinking citizens/netizens.  Bring everyone into a wonderful
> world full of meaningful discussions and mindful content.  I never
> expected that to happen, and don't currently expect that it will
> happen.

It is an open question whether the reason that most people don't think
is that they _can't_, or that they don't _care_ to, and whether if
they're given a well, they'll drink from it.

But if we fill the well with horseshit, I'll bet you they'll turn up
their noses and walk away.

You know, that's "that hotbed of filth, the Internet"?

>> My predictions: the differentiation into 'info providers' and 'informa-
>> tion consumers' will continue to accelerate, with collaboration, peer
>> networks, information sharing, volunteerism and mutuality becoming
>> ever less used concepts.

> I agree only on the percentage basis.  The total amount of
> "peer-to-peer" content will not decrease.  But it will increase at a
> rate slower than the "info provider" content.  So you will end up with
> a large percentage of the content being info-provider content, but the
> actual amount of non-prodiver content won't be less than it would have
> been if not for the info-providers.  That is, I don't see anyone
> deciding skip making a quality site, and instead make a lame personal
> site, just so he has more time to go visit www.nekkid-gurls.com.

No, unless the advance in infocrap makes it unreasonably slow and
unproductive for people to bother putting up things that no one will
read anyway because they can't get to it.

There's also the argument that the rapid advance of the net is due to
the lack of marginal cost to many of the useful services therein
(IMDB, Lycos, AltaVista, etc..), and that since there's no practical
way _yet_ to provide those services at a reasonably small marginal
cost -- and if Commerce and Defense don't get off their asses soon,
there never will be -- that the decline in such services will have an
effect on the over all shape of the net.

Remember, those cbs.com's aren't there for the masses that are there
 _now_... they're there for the masses that those people think will
show up based on the number of us geeks that are there now.

>> Most newspapers are calculatedly written for a 4th grade reading level
>> today, a least common denominator and thus very large market.  This is
>> well documented and verifiable, not just an opinion.  Pages designed
>> for WebTV will aim lower if anything.  More than a few sentences on a
>> page will be inconsistent with the viewership.  This *IS* a change
>> from the old Internet, no matter that some apologists will try to make
>> it a shameful, elitist thing for us to notice such facts.

> But that's not the type of page I am interested in anyway.  Are you
> suggesting that a large entertainment company, say, NBC, might
> actually make meaningful content if it weren't for WebTV?  I don't
> think so.  It's more likely that they wouldn't make *any* content if
> no means existed for the mindless masses to get on the Internet and
> see their page.

No, I think that he's asserting that anything that trades quality for
quantity of viewers is, _in the long run_ a bad thing.

This has been proven in the TV business.  Look at all the 'critically
acclaimed' shows that now make good ratings, but took years to get
there.

CBS.com doesn't have that sort of attention span; the suits won't let
them.

> This is not a zero sum game.  All the content that you always liked
> will still be there.  It's just that, additionally, we'll have
> content for the couch potoatos.  And since couch potatos make up a
> large percentage of the population, there will be a lot of Web Sites
> directed to them.

For the reasons noted above, I'm not sure I agree.  Certainly, it's not
a zero sum game, but the infrastructure isn't keeping up with the
growth _now_, and I don't see CBS.com contributing to the IAB.

>> "Look it up on the Web" educational assistance will in many, perhaps
>> most, cases become another tool for kids to regurgitate rather than
>> learn.  

> But the kids doing that are the same kids who are today plagerizing
> one encyclopadeia and then listing five others as references.  The Net
> makes legitimate research easier, it also makes bad research easier.
> But it won't make good researchers become bad researchers, nor will it
> make poor researchers into good researchers.

It might help in the latter case.  If you're a bad researcher because
encyclopediae cost $1k, then it might help quite a lot.

>> Online discussion groups, whether Usenet or mailing lists, will be
>> deluged with folks who don't contribute much.  They will either be
>> looking for free advice (the internet has been sold as this).

> This is one place where we will have to adapt.  Without a doubt there
> is a change here -- newsgroups that used to be perfectly good places to
> have technical discussions and/or meaningful discussions about
> non-technical things are now little more than flame-fests and/or forums
> for the clueless to ask about thus and such.

And indeed, this has been almost-, if not fatal, to many newsgroups I
used to particiapte in.

Why, oh why, don't the majors start running Usenet software that
bounces postings with more than five newsgroups?  This seems perfectly
_trivial_.

> This is the same as everywhere else -- the amount of useful
> content is still increasing -- but just not as fast as the amount of
> useless content.  Unfortunately, while it's relatively easy to avoid
> the crap on the web, it's much harder in newsgroups.  

As I noted, and because of that, it's a _much_ more important problem.

IMHO, notwithstanding the web and it's popularity, Usenet is still "the
Net", and will be until it dies (film at 11).

> This will have to play itself out.  Perhaps after enough flames, the
> word will spread wide enough.  Or maybe we'll end up with a lot more
> moderated groups.

Neither a fun alternative.

> The changing of Usenet is a very real phenomenon, and is already in
> progress.  (September 1993 -- the September that Never Ended.)

Beautiful quote.

>> So there will be much movement to implement cable modems and
>> xDSL (especially ADSL), to give every one of those consumers 1.5-8
>> Mbps of download channel.  Think what that means: ONE NEIGHBORHOOD
>> could saturate today's entire backbone, and one city could require the
>> backbone to expand 100 fold to keep up (not likely to be well funded
>> by $19.95/month).  

> Increasing backbone capacity is easier than increasing subscriber
> capacity.  So the backbone will almost certainly keep up.

Um, from 28.8 Kbps to 8 Mbps?  That's roughly 2.5 orders of magnitude.
That's a much bigger jump than they've ever swallowed before.

>> Has the ubiquity of CocaCola ads or the popularity of Cheers
>> democratized the world?

> Here we agree completely.  The Web will not democratize the world.  It
> represents only an incremental change.  It's a new media.  Technically
> quite different than existing media, but fundamentally the same.

And it's here that I diverge with you completely, Brett.

The web may not "democratize the world", but it is, by it's nature, the
first technology that has the _opportunity_ to, because it provides

1) an audience

and 

2) a low bar to entry.

Coke ads and Cheers are a strawman in the face of those two facts, I
think.  If you think this is fundamentally the same, I suggest you go
by a small printing press and attempt to reach the same potential
audience as a Sunday paper.

>> The best I can hope for now is to keep alive some "commercially
>> unviable" niches of intelligent and thoughtful discussion, peer
>> creativity, collaborative information exchange, and free and diverse
>> thought that will never show up significantly on CBS's broadcasts or
>> AT&T's web sites.  

> My point exactly.  But those niches will be bigger than the Net
> initally was.  Instead of 90% of a relatively small Net, we'll have
> .1% of an outrageously huge net.  We come out ahead, even if some
> other people come out more ahead.  And we'll benfit from the
> infrastructure put in place to help "them".

If, indeed, it is.

> This niche will remain, just as it continues to exist in the
> non-Internet world.  This is my fundamental point.  The Net as we know
> it will continue to exist ... just as a subset of a much larger net.
> My other point would be that no new media is likely going to
> completely change the nature of the average lazy person.  Those who
> had hoped that the Net would radically democratize society -- give
> everyone a voice and make everyone a mindful productive netizen -- are
> going to be disappointed.  Those who do not want to be "democraticized" 
> are not going to be ... not via the Net ... not via anything else.

I'm going to try to comment on Pat's observations, but I'm home sick,
and may give up ...

> I suspect we will have a lot of new netters with us beginning
> later this week. Don't forget, people also buy computers for
> their kids at Christmas, and I would like to suggest we all take
> the high road and assume that everyone of them mean well until
> as *individuals* they prove themselves otherwise. To say that
> someone 'means well' is not to say they are not ignorant; it is
> not to say there won't be lots of chain letters and spams and
> other nuisances. But I dunno ... let's just wish one another a
> happy holiday and seek out the best of the net where we can find
> it. You can probably tell I am very ambivilent on this point;
> there are days I feel like unplugging my terminal and tossing
> it all in also; yet when you least expect it, you meet the
> *nicest* people.    PAT]

So you do.

Maybe Honda bought the net?

Cheers,

jr '<wheeze>' a

Jay R. Ashworth                                        jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
Member of the Technical Staff                    Junk Mail Will Be Billed For.
The Suncoast Freenet      *FLASH: Craig Shergold aw'better; call 800-215-1333*
Tampa Bay, Florida    http://members.aol.com/kyop/rhps.html    +1 813 790 7592

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From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com (John Rice)
Subject: Re: GTE's CyberPOP
Date: 26 Dec 96 14:37:24 CDT
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division


In article <telecom16.679.14@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, keithpillow@
sylvaninfo.net writes:

> Has anybody gotten any information on this, other than that it exists?
> I've read the press release.  What's it cost?  What are the
> particulars?

> I checked their web pages and supposedly you can get more info at
> http://www.gte.com/cgi-bin/contact/cyberpop/Cando/Carrier/Docs/Wired/cyber2.html

> But the form there sends your request to a bogus address:
> cyberpopinfo@telops.gte.com

> No one at GTE (that I've encountered so far) knows anything about it.

> What's the deal?

Try sending e-mail to cyberpopinfo@telops.gte.sprint.com . gte.com is
not related to GTE, I don't think. Every GTE e-mail address I've ever
seen is '@gte.sprint.com' and using nslookup, I see that
'@telops.gte.sprint.com' is a valid e-mail address.


John Rice 
rice@ttd.teradyne.com

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From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: More on California Geographic Split Decision
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:44:05 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Linc Madison wrote:
 
> This is very confusing wording.  Area codes 310 and 619 are splitting
> within the next three months (310/562 on 1-25-97 and 619/760 on
> 3-22-97).  Is this report projecting that 310 and 619 will split
> *again* by the year 2001?  The plans for area code 818/626 are nearly
> finalized, too.

> Of course, the other problem is that 408, 310, 619, 818, 714, 213, 209
> and 805 makes EIGHT area codes, not seven, and neither 7+2 nor 8+2
> makes twelve, and the existing 13 plus 12 new ones don't make the 26
> that we are projected to have by 2001.  Your average eight-year-old
> can count better than that!

Yes, Linc, but we are referring to a group of people that are swayed
by the likes of Regina Costa...  :-)

> Yet more sloppy reportage, surprise, surprise.  (Please note that Tad
> was only quoting a press report -- the sloppiness is on AP's part, not
> Tad's.)

The press in general is known for its breaking news, not accurate
reporting ...

> As for doing a second geographic split of 415, there is only one
> acceptable line for a standard two-way split, and that is the Golden
> Gate.  However, Marin County accounts for only about 1/5 or so of the
> exchanges in the newly-reduced 415, and I believe it is growing less
> rapidly than San Francisco.  Even within San Francisco, the city is
> currently divided into three rating zones.  "San Francisco 1," which
> includes downtown, accounts for over 3/4 of the exchanges in the city
> (182 out of 241, as of the 9/96 directory publication date).  (Marin
> County has about 60 prefixes.)  Thus, even if you did a split of SF1
> keeping 415 while SF2, SF3, and all of Marin move into the new area
> code, that's still only about a 60/40 split by number of prefixes.  Of
> course, that split would never fly politically, putting "the
> neighborhoods" in an area code they share with Point Reyes but not
> with downtown.

> That means that we either do a very lopsided split, moving only Marin
> into the new area code, and hope that lets us hold out long enough for
> an overlay, or we do a three-way split, Marin/Downtown/Neighborhoods,
> which would still leave downtown to do an overlay before 2010.

What about shifting Marin into 707, and then splitting the rate zones?
There would be a handful of prefix reassignments in Marin, but that
would prolong the life of the 'newly assigned' codes ...

> I also think the commissioners should be involuntarily committed to a
> mental hospital for proposing to geographically split area code 213.
> They are showing clear symptoms of delusional psychosis.

I prefer the term 'T-U-R-N-ITIS', a swelling of the brain caused by
activists swarming utility commission meetings!


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://206.112.101.209/jcbt2n/lincs/    

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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 96 10:42:00 EST
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
Subject: Re: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg, N.Y.


> I can't find any records that indicate that there is a 713-290-XXXX
> exchange.  Why couldn't they create one so that new customers could
> have a 713 number and wouldn't have to change their area code or prefix?

It's probably been reserved by a competitive provider.

News reports have done a notably bad job of explaining where all of
the prefixes have really gone: they're all reserved for potential
local service competition.  A combination of the way that billing
works (by prefix) and the way that routing works (also by prefix)
means that every company that is thinking about offering service in an
area has to reserve at least one prefix for every rate center that
they might serve.  This means that when local service was opened up to
competition, thousands and thousands of prefixes were scooped up, many
of which will never be used, or if they are used, will only have a few
hundred customers.

At least this is a temporary phenomenon.  I gather that most of the
scooping has taken place, and when local number portability is
implemented it'll fix the routing problem and allow carriers to share
prefixes.


John R. Levine, IECC, POB 640 Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
johnl@iecc.com, http://iecc.com/johnl, "New witty saying coming soon."

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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: California PUC Split on NPA Splits
Date: 24 Dec 1996 19:02:33 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.676.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, tad@ssc.com (Tad
Cook) writes:

> "All three surveys found that area-code splits are the preferred
> method for most people," said Thomas Pulsifer, a PUC administrative
> law judge. "The surveys also found concern about confusion over dual
> area codes in the same location or same neighborhood."

This is one of those cases where the public has no particular opinion
until asked. Thus, you can more than normally get whatever answer you
want by carefully phrasing the question. Thus, public opinion polls
are worthless!!!!!

At LEAST, show the questions asked, not just the percentages!


Regards and Happy Solstice,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: NPA 570 For Colorado
Date: 24 Dec 1996 21:11:06 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.676.9@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Mark J. Cuccia
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

> 570-NXX-xxxx would mean Area Code 570, plus whatever local exchange;
> while 303-570-xxxx will continue to mean Area Code 303, plus local
> exchange 570 *within the 303 area code*.

> With overlays and mandatory ten-digit local dialing, such things *are* 
> possible, and actually make *more efficient use* of numbering/code 
> resources than area code splits do.

True, but I want to make another point. By Bellcore recommendations
(i.e.  allowing seven digit or 1+ten or 0+ten) you do not need
"mandatory 10 digit dialling". It is quite feasible to allow good old
seven digits to mean same area code as caller.

I am aware that there are some backward areas of the country (Texas
for one) that still insist that the presence or absence of "1+" has
something to do with how much a call costs. This paradigm died most
places when mechanical switches were carried out to the scrapyard (and
should be put to death where still alive). Where it is dead, seven
digit dialling would work just fine.


Regards and Merry Solstice,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Pager Scam - or Wrong Number?
Date: 25 Dec 1996 09:59:17 -0500


Very few people have my direct beeper number; it mainly serves as a
conduit for my answering machine to notify me of new messages.  So
normally I don't answer pages which display unknown numbers.

A few months back my pager number was forcibly changed from the 718 to
the 917 (pager and cellphone) exchange here in NYC.

Since then, an intermittent series on unknown numbers has appeared on my
pager, all bearing a similar pattern.

	1. Usually Friday or Saturday evenings (sometimes noon on a
		weekday).
	2. Two identical messages 5 minutes apart.
	3. No area code, just a 7-digit number.

The numbers received seem to rotate through 3 or so of them (I started
writing them down).

With talk recently of pager scams involving people making unexpected
toll calls when answering pages, I've been wary. But I'm getting
curious.  Ideas? I'm trying to resist dialing 917-xxx-xxxx to see if I
can find out.


Mike Schuster      	|	70346.1745@CompuServe.COM
schuster@panix.com 	|	schuster@mem.po.com 

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Dialing Procedures and Charging (Re: NPA 570 For Colorado) (Mark Cuccia)
    Re: World-Wide Cellular Phone Rental? (Nils Andersson)
    Re: World-Wide Cellular Phone Rental? (David Whiteman)
    Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges (Jay R. Ashworth)
    Re: 385 or 435 to be Used for Utah (Linc Madison)
    Re: And the New Number is ... 949 (John Cropper)
    Re: And the New Number is ... 949 (Robert McMillin)
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:21:53 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Dialing Procedures and Charging (Re: NPA 570 For Colorado)


Nils Andersson <nilsphone@aol.com> wrote:

> Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

>> 570-NXX-xxxx would mean Area Code 570, plus whatever local exchange;
>> while 303-570-xxxx will continue to mean Area Code 303, plus local
>> exchange 570 *within the 303 area code*.

>> With overlays and mandatory ten-digit local dialing, such things *are*
>> possible, and actually make *more efficient use* of numbering/code
>> resources than area code splits do.

> True, but I want to make another point. By Bellcore recommendations
> (i.e. allowing seven digit or 1+ten or 0+ten) you do not need
> "mandatory 10 digit dialling". It is quite feasible to allow good old
> seven digits to mean same area code as caller.

But you have a 'code conflict' and the switch requires a 'time-out' if you 
are going to have permissive seven-digit dialing in an overlay situation.

i.e. local calls to (303)-570-xxxx dialed as just seven-digits, if coming 
from a number in the 303 area code will result in a three-to-five second 
delay, as a *local* call to a number in the 570 area code (570-NXX-xxxx) 
will require ten-digits. But being a *local* call, particularly in an 
*overlay* situation shouldn't have to *require* a '1+'.

True, the '#' (pound) button can 'cancel' the wait to time-out. But
how many in the general public will remember to hit a '#' after
dialing a seven-digit local number in their own area code if there is
a code-conflict situation. What about people who are pausing too long
while dialing, while looking up the number? If they pause too long at
the wrong spot, they will connect to (303)-570-nxxx rather than the
570-NXX-xxxx number they *intend* to reach. And rotary dial phones are
still in use, and will continue to be.  People who don't have a
touchtone signaling device will be *forced* to wait for a 'time-out'
on such dialed seven-digit calls.

Over the decades, places have gone from local numbers of three to six
digits in length to a more-or-less 'fixed' length of seven-digits. 
However, we are really part of a *ten* digit length number in the
NANP. And with all of the need for number/code assignments these days,
it would be better if everyone in the US and Canada thought of their
telephone number as full ten-digits.

If I am making a local call in my own central office switch and code,
I must dial the number as seven-digits, and can *not* dial the number
simply by its last four or five digits. This was possible in many
rural areas, and still might be in effect in some places, but is
vanishing.

Of course, PBX's can dial 'shortcut' numbers within their PBX dialing
group, but 'outside' calls usually require the '9+' exit code. Cellular 
phones aren't rotary but all touchtone. However, they also *require*
the 'SEND' button be pressed ... with my cellular, I can *still* even
make 0+ calls in the 504 area code as _0+seven-digits+SEND_, whether
it is in my local cellular area (Bell South Mobility airtime only),
intra-LATA toll (BSM airtime plus BellSouth wireline toll), or to the
Baton Rouge LATA (BSM airtime, plus wireline _AT&T_ toll), or I can
enter 0+504+seven-digits+SEND. Same goes for toll calls in 504 to the
Baton Rouge LATA ... I can enter seven-digits+SEND, 1+seven-digits+SEND, 
504+seven-digits+SEND, or 1+504-NXX-xxxx+SEND. And *NO* call even
begins to 'set-up' to completion *until* the 'SEND' button is entered!

> I am aware that there are some backward areas of the country (Texas
> for one) that still insist that the presence or absence of "1+" has
> something to do with how much a call costs. This paradigm died most
> places when mechanical switches were carried out to the scrapyard (and
> should be put to death where still alive). Where it is dead, seven
> digit dialling would work just fine.

The following relates to *billing* of calls, and the use of '1+':

IMO, the use of a '1+' should mean 'put the call through, dialed as a
full NANP ten-digit number, whether local or toll. Charge me toll if
there is toll -- don't charge me toll if it is local/free (or charge
me whatever local message units apply, in areas where there is no
unlimited fixed-monthly-rate local dialing area).

IMO, *absence* of a '1+' on a full NANP ten-digit number should mean
to put the call through *only* if the call is local/free or, in the
case of mandatory local measured/message rate 'below' the local price
barrier or threshold.

IMO, 'free' would include 800/888/877/etc. i.e., in a mandatory ten-digit 
dialing situation, such calls could be dialed (at the *customer's*
whim) as either/both 1-800-NXX-xxxx and/or 800-NXX-xxxx. Same applies
for 888 and the future 877, etc.

IMO, if the customer has blocking against pay-per-call prefixes, calls
to 900-NXX-xxxx, NPA-976-xxxx, and others, whether dialed with '1+' or
without '1+' would result in a "call cannot be completed as dialed"
type of recording. But if the customer desired access to such
prefixes, such calls would be dialed a mandatory ten-digits (i.e. a
local area NPA plus 976 on such '976' calls), but would *require* a
mandatory '1+'.

Any chargeable call (or call above a certain local price threshold)
dialed in full ten-digits, but without a '1+' would result in the
recording, "you must first dial a '1' or '0' when calling this
number."

The 1+ did have something to do *specifically* with the actual
switching and routing the call in the electromechanical days. In other
areas, it indicated the difference between seven-digit "home" NPA
calls and ten-digit "foreign" NPA calls, whether or not either was
'local/free' or toll.

Today, '1+' could be used as a 'toll-indicator', but permit all local/
free calls as well, while ten-digit calls without the '1+' would be
available only for dialed NPA-NXX terminations which are 'local/free'.


MARK J. CUCCIA  PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:  HOME:  (USA)  Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity 5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New Orleans 28  |fwds on no-answr to
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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: World-Wide Cellular Phone Rental?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 19:02:38 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.676.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, joel@exc.com (Joel M.
Hoffman) writes:

> Does anyone have any details on this sort of service?  At the moment
> I'm mostly interested in Israel, but in the coming months Europe, too.

I know the company (not in my head). They rent Irish and Swiss based GSM
900 MHz phones. The call charges are pretty steep; they have to be.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

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From: dbw@autopsy.com (David Whiteman)
Subject: Re: World-Wide Cellular Phone Rental?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:45:15 GMT
Organization: Network Intensive


In article <telecom16.676.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, joel@exc.com (Joel M.
Hoffman) wrote:

> In the back of an airline magazine, I saw an offer for world-wide
> cellular phone rental, where I would pay only for calls (probably at
> quite a high rate), and nothing for renting the phone or the cellular
> service.  But I forgot to keep the advertisement.

> Does anyone have any details on this sort of service?  At the moment
> I'm mostly interested in Israel, but in the coming months Europe, too.

Recently during random web surfing I found a web side for a company
that rents international cellular phones. I have no idea of the
quality of their service, or how relatively cheap or expensive their
products are. The website is www.mobell.com and the company is Mobell
Communications.  They rent US cell phones, UK cell phones, GSM and MTS
phones for over 30 countries, and the Planet 1 phone, which is
Comsat's new portable satellite phone.

------------------------------

From: jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jay R. Ashworth)
Subject: Re: COCOT 800-Access Charges
Date: 27 Dec 1996 16:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida


Dave Levenson (dave@westmark.com) wrote:

> Jay R. Ashworth (jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us) writes:

>> Ok, admittedly, they may have a financially sound motivation for this
>> desire, although I'd be _really_ surprised if there was a good
>> justification for their not noticing for _13_ years ...

> Over the past 13 years, the volume of 800 traffic has increased from
> 4% of the traffic to 24% of the traffic.  (Why do you think we have
> run out of 800 numbers?)  When the users getting a free ride on the
> payphone become that high a fraction, they _did_ get noticed.  That it
> took this many years to fix the problem is not because nobody noticed
> it ... but that governmental action normally proceeds at a rather
> stately pace!

It's gone up that much?

Ok.

>> The "rule" I'm discussing is the implied contract that Dave feels that
>> he, and his daughter at swim practice, have with "the telephone
>> company".  For many, _many_ years, it has been possible to place a
>> call to a "so-called" toll-free number, without needing to carry any
>> money, and many, _many_ customers have taken advantage of this
>> capability.

> That has not changed.  The payphone compensation is paid to the
> payphone operator (LEC or COCOT-owner) by the carrier, not by the
> caller.  There is still no need to carry change to make calls to 800
> numbers!

Well, yeah, but see my earlier comments to Brett (I think it was) on
this topic.


Cheers,

Jay R. Ashworth                                        jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
Member of the Technical Staff                    Junk Mail Will Be Billed For.
The Suncoast Freenet      *FLASH: Craig Shergold aw'better; call 800-215-1333*
Tampa Bay, Florida    http://members.aol.com/kyop/rhps.html    +1 813 790 7592

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: 385 or 435 to be Used for Utah
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:29:25 -0800


In article <telecom16.672.2@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, psyber@mindspring.
com wrote:
(quoting the Deseret News Archives, 12/12/96)

> Cellular phone customers in the affected area would need to have their
> phones reprogrammed, Ott said. He was unsure about the cost.

> Fax machines, modems or pagers would not need to be reprogrammed.

This last point is flat wrong as far as fax machines.  Fax machines in
an area code MUST be reprogrammed, because the "station ID" is entered
manually.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: And the New Number is ... 949
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:17:14 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Mike King wrote:

> And the New Number is ... 949

> Plan Filed to Split Orange County's 714 Area Code

> Most existing 714 customers in the northern portion of Orange County
> would keep the 714 area code. Some of the communities that would
> remain entirely in the 714 include: Anaheim, Buena Park, Cypress,
> Fountain Valley, Fullerton, Garden Grove, Huntington Beach, Orange,
> Placentia, Seal Beach, Stanton, Westminster and Yorba Linda. The
> majority of customers in Santa Ana and Tustin would also keep the 714
> area code. The 714 area code would also continue to serve very small
> portions of Brea, La Mirada, La Palma, Los Alamitos and La Habra.

> Most existing 714 customers in the southern portion of Orange County
> would receive the new 949 area code. Some of the communities to be
> served by the 949 include: Aliso Viejo, Balboa, Capistrano Valley,
> Corona del Mar, Dana Point, Laguna Beach, Laguna Niguel, Lake Forest,
> Mission Viejo, Newport Beach, San Clemente, San Juan Capistrano, and
> Santa Ana Heights. Most customers in Irvine would also receive the new
> 949 area code.

Sounds to me that the easiest explanation is that the border runs from
the coast along Harbor Blvd, turns east along I-405, straddles
mid-county along state route 55 (Costa Mesa Freeway and Newport
Freeway), then turns and follows state route 91.

> Several communities located along the new 714/949 split line border
> would be served by both area codes, meaning part of the community
> would stay 714 and part would receive the new 949. In Irvine, for
> instance, most of the city would be served by 949, except a small
> portion to stay 714. Other cities that would be served by both area
> codes include: Santa Ana and Tustin, which primarily remain 714 and
> Costa Mesa, which would be divided in half by the two area codes.

When you're making am omelette ...

> In planning area code splits, Bennett said the industry tries to avoid
> dividing cities. "However, sometimes this cannot be avoided because
> telephone wire center serving boundaries do not necessarily coincide
> with city and county lines," he said, explaining that the telephone
> wireline network has been in place for many years, while political
> boundaries have changed over time. "Consequently, we cannot always
> follow political boundary lines and still gain adequate area code
> relief."

<coughOVERLAYcough>
 
> The Commission is expected to issue a final decision on the 714 area
> code relief plan as early as January. Persons who wish to comment on
> the plan may write to the:

> California Public Utilities Commission
> President P. Gregory Conlon
> 505 Van Ness Avenue
> San Francisco, CA 94102

-or- 

MindNumbed TURN sympathizers
President Regina Costa
c/o CPUC
505 Van Ness Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94102
attention: NO OVERLAYS, OR WE'LL PINCH YOU!

> Bennett said two 714 geographic split options were presented to the
> public for comment during meetings in June. Both plans used a
> north/south Orange County split to create a new area code and were
> very similar, except one also kept Huntington Beach, Westminster and
> half of Fountain Valley in the 714 area code.

> "In general, the public preferred the plan that included Huntington
> Beach, Westminster and Fountain Valley in 714 due to a strong
> community of interest between these cities and other nearby cities in
> the 714," Bennett said. "There was also a concern that Santa Ana,
> being the county seat, should remain in the 714.

> "We were able to make those adjustments, although it shortens the life
> of the 714 area code by almost a year." Other adjustments to the
> original plan included keeping all, rather than only part, of Fountain
> Valley in 714, Bennett said.

Everybody's code-happy ... 'we gotta keep our code, we gotta keep our
code'. This mentality will perpetuate the need for relief!

> As proposed, the new 949 area code would last 18 to 22 years, while the
> reconfigured 714 would last four to five years.

Rediculous! Both codes should be split so that they both last an average
of eight to ten years.

> While customers who receive the new 949 area code will have to change
> the area code portion of their telephone number, the new three-digit
> code will not affect the price of telephone calls in any of these
> areas, Bennett said. "Call distance determines call price and is not
> impacted by the creation of a new area code," he said. "What is a
> local call now will remain a local call regardless of the area code
> change.

Dialing patterns, however, will change!

> Bennett also noted that when the new 949 area code is introduced,
> there will be a six-month "permissive" dialing period during which
> callers can dial either the old 714 or new 949 area code.

If they're smart, they'll make it three months of dial-through, and
three months of intercept recordings ...

> Orange County is the latest in a series of regions in California
> requiring area code relief. Today, California has 13 area codes, more
> than any other state. Plans call for doubling that number from 13 to
> 26 over the next five years to keep up with the state's record
> telephone number consumption. That consumption is being spurred by the
> high-technology explosion of fax machines, pagers, cellular phones and
> modems for Internet access along with the onset of local competition
> in California's telephone market. Ten of the 13 new area codes will be
> introduced by the end of 1998.

This is the most accurate depiction of the situation to date. Of course,
it IS PacBell who is reporting this fact ... :)

> Plans for the 714 area code were collectively developed by a
> telecommunications industry group representing more than 30 companies,
> including Pacific Bell, GTE, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, AirTouch, Pagenet,
> AT&T Wireless, MFS Communications Co., Teleport Communications Group
> (TCG), the California Cable Television Association and others.

This explains why new area code boundaries resemble voting districts. :)


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://206.112.101.209/jcbt2n/lincs/    

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From: rlm@netcom.com (Robert McMillin)
Subject: Re: And the New Number is ... 949
Reply-To: rlm@helen.surfcty.com
Organization: Charlie Don't CERF
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 03:34:35 GMT


On 26 Dec 1996 21:14:18 PDT, Mike King <mk@wco.com> reposted a
Pac*Bell press release, which in part read:

> Most existing 714 customers in the northern portion of Orange County
> would keep the 714 area code. Some of the communities that would
> remain entirely in the 714 include: Anaheim, Buena Park, Cypress,
> Fountain Valley, Fullerton, Garden Grove, Huntington Beach, Orange,
> Placentia, Seal Beach, Stanton, Westminster and Yorba Linda. The
             ^^^^^^^^^^
> majority of customers in Santa Ana and Tustin would also keep the 714
> area code. The 714 area code would also continue to serve very small
> portions of Brea, La Mirada, La Palma, Los Alamitos and La Habra.

Isn't Seal Beach entirely served by 310 (soon to be 562)?  The only
thing I can think of that might be in 714 is the Naval Weapons
Station, but that's not even listed in my White Pages.  (Hey, maybe
they're in 710 ... :-)  Does anyone know differently?

> As proposed, the new 949 area code would last 18 to 22 years, while the
> reconfigured 714 would last four to five years.

Typical of what seems to be happening across the country.  North OC
residents can look forward to yet another geographic split in 2002 or
so.  My guess at the most likely boundaries are the Santa Ana River
and/or Euclid Street.  Most of Santa Ana, Anaheim (i.e., Disneyland/
Anaheim Stadium/the Arrowhead Pond), and Tustin, along with all of
Orange, Yorba Linda, Placentia, the Silverado exchange, eastern
Fullerton, and the eastern extremities of Garden Grove would remain
714.  Cypress, Buena Park, La Palma, Stanton, western Garden Grove and
Fullerton, Westminster, Fountain Valley, Huntington Beach, and the 714
remnant of Costa Mesa would move to the new area code.  Both area
codes will exhaust in 2004 :-).

The more I think about overlays, the more I like it.


    Robert L. McMillin  | rlm@helen.surfcty.com | Netcom: rlm@netcom.com

------------------------------

From: David Esan <103145.117@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers
Date: 27 Dec 1996 15:28:31 GMT
Organization: MOSCOM


>  A description of being given a 281 number, that will change 
> into a 713 number in a year.

I wouldn't blame SWBT too much for the mix up.  The 281 overlay was in
the works for nearly a year, when objections to an overlay were raised
in the Texas PUC.  They then ruled that the earlier 281 overlay had to
be redone, and that the split had to be geographic.

I am sure that the confusion that was created was tremendous, as
existing exchanges had to be moved out of the new 713 area and those
people, assigned a 281 exchange, had to be moved back into 713.  All
this in an area code that was running out of exchanges to begin with.

BTW, there is a 713-290 exchange.  In fact, according to my latest
information, there are 764 exchanges in 713.  Remember, there is a
maximum of 800 possible exchanges, and there are a certain number that
are reserved for various uses and therefore not available for use.

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers
Date: 27 Dec 1996 19:16:20 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


> I can't find any records that indicate that there is a 713-290-XXXX
> exchange.  Why couldn't they create one so that new customers could
> have a 713 number and wouldn't have to change their area code or
> prefix?  I find it terribly inconceivable that they are totally out of
> 713 numbers in my area.  Are they conserving these numbers?

This kind of little shop of horrors is another illustration to why I
believe the PUCs should bite the bullet and to overlays.


Regards and Happy Solstice,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:00:28 -0500
From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Subject: Re: Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS
Organization: New York University School of Medicine


Eric Friedebach <aerostar@ccia.com> wrote:

> In 1987 I signed up for an 800 number from MCI for my small business
> that sells technical data for old aircraft [...] 
> As this whole subject settles down, I guess the concept (and cost) of 
> using a public telephone to access your own number will be acceptable.

I ran into an interesting problem related to 800 numbers and pay phones
recently, related to aviation too.

Every airport that has an instrument approach is required by
regulation to have some way to communicate with Air Traffic Control
from the ground, so you can close flight plans after landing, obtain
pre-takeoff clearances, etc.  If there is no ATC facility on the
field, then there either has to be an RCO (Remote Communications
Outlet; basicly an automated VHF tranceiver remoted over a leased line
circuit back to an ATC facility) or a commercial pay phone.  RCOs are
relatively expensive to install, so only the busiest uncontrolled
fields have them.  The smaller ones just have a plain old public pay
phone on the field somewhere.

The FAA, in their zeal to ensure that pilots do indeed contact ATC
when they are supposed to, provided a nationwide 800 number which
connects you to the nearest flight service station (not actually an
ATC facility, but they do relay messages to ATC, and that's good
enough).  This is also the same 800 number you use to obtain weather
briefings.  So, of course, you've got these pay phones, sitting out at
small airports, getting used a lot.  Unfortunately, 99% of the calls
don't generate any coins into the coin box, because they are to the
800 number.

So, this past summer, NYNEX decided to start yanking out all the
"unprofitable" payphones at small airports.  Of course, the phones do
generate revenue producing calls, they just don't generate coins in
the box.  The FAA pays for all the 800 calls, via invoice at the end
of the month on their 800 line.  But, that's not the way the
accounting is done, so NYNEX views the phones as "unprofitable", and
pulled them all out.


Roy Smith <roy@nyu.edu>
Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202
NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016

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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:51:43 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: AT&T's New Prepaid Phone Card


In the mail at home the other day, I received a promotion from
AT&T. It was a gift of one of their new pre-paid Phone Cards with
100-units of calling!

This is part of their new "Personal Account Service" for 'special'
customes. I am a high-volume toll user of AT&T's service, incidently.

Regarding the prepaid (actually gift) card, it is good for 100 units
of calls, in which domestic calls (which, of course, includes Alaska,
Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands) are 1 unit per
minute. International calls are "rated" as follows:

Canada, Mexico ......... 3 units per minute
United Kingdom ......... 3 units per minute
non-US Caribbean ....... 4 units per minute
Central/South America .. 4 units per minute
Japan, Australia ....... 4 units per minute
Asia/Pacific ........... 5 units per minute

The dialing procedures to use this card are as follows:

Dial up the 800 number printed on the back of the card. This number is 
*NOT* 800-CALL-ATT nor 800-3210-ATT.

Voice-recording prompts are now heard, welcoming you to the service.

DTMF enter the prepaid card number. It is ten-digits in length, rather
than fourteen. The ten-digits on my card are of the form
NXX-NXX-XXXX. I don't know if the fourth digit in ten-digit card
number could be '1' or '0', or if the first digit could be '1' or '0'
as well. It possibly could, as I don't think that you can 'cut thru'
to an operator when using this card.

More voice-recording prmpts are now heard -- first indicating how many
units are remaining on the card, and if enough, then instructing you
to enter '1' if the call is in the US, Canada or the Caribbean, then
the area code and local seven digit number; *OR* to enter the country
code plus city-code and local number of a country outside of North
America.

NOTE: *** "You do not need to enter the 011 before the country code,
because AT&T does it for you." ***

In other words, you are entering the 'full worldwide' telephone
number, without any 'access prefixes'. Calls within the NANP are
preceded with a '1' (which you do normally dial from a home/business
phone on 'station sent paid' calls, anyhow), and all calls to non-NANP
locations are dialed with the country code first, and then continuing.

If there are enough units on the card, the call will go through. If
you get a busy, no-answer, or intercept/vacant type of recording, you
can hit the '#' button and redial that call or place another call, or
hang up.

At the end of a completed call, when the called party hangs up, you
then hear how many units remain on the card. If you wish to call
another number, hit the '#' button, and enter the number as desrcibed
above, or hang up.

When only one minute remains on the card, an announcement will
'cut-in'.  You can then enter another valid prepaid card number to
continue.

There are another 800 numbers for customer service, as well as for my 
"Personal Account Representative."

On the terms and conditions, it mentions that the card can't be used
from rotary phones (unless you have a portable touchtone signaling
dialer - like the one I have from Radio Shack), nor can it be used to
call 700, 800, or 900 calls. It doesn't mention anything about 500
number calls, however. Nor can the card be used for certain types of
operator assisted calls such as 3rd-party billing or collect (how
would anyone want to use a prepaid card, but then place calls to 800
numbers, or billed collect/3rd-party?), nor can the card be used calls
to Directory Assistance. (I don't understand why one or more units
can't be deducted for DA, even with 'Directory Link' connecting the
call. Maybe it is because that DA is a 'fixed' charge, and if you
connected to the number looked up, it couldn't deduct those units.)

The card has no surrender value and is not refundable.

As for me, I consider it a nice gift from AT&T! (And, I've used it a
lot already, and I only have 7-units remaining out of the initial
100!)

*However*, I don't like the way you enter all NANP numbers as
1+ten-digits, and all non-NANP calls as their full worldwide number
but without the 011+.  I've mentioned it to the customer service
already that even though the instructions are printed on the card, and
I am aware of them, I am not always in the habit of entering a '1+'
when entering in a called NANP number on various carriers' 'card'
services accessed with 950-xxxx or 800/888 numbers, whether the
initial call, or a sequence call after the '#' (pound) button. And for
calls to non-NANP countries placed via a calling card with AT&T and
other carriers (accessed with 950-xxxx and 800/888 numbers), I am
always accustomed to entering '011+' or '01+' and then the country
code, etc.

With my 'regular' AT&T and BellSouth cards, I can enter sequence calls
to NANP numbers as ten-digits, 1+ten-digits, or sometimes even
0+ten-digits.  And all sequence calls to non-NANP locations as
01(1)+cc+nn+(#). And sequence calls include the 'initial' number when
using fg.B (or like) access with a 950-xxxx or 800/888 number, rather
than (10(1X)XXX)+0/01+ fg.D access.

I even accidently placed a one-minute (4-units deducted) call
'sequence' call to Honduras (Country Code +504) when I really intended
to call Baton Rouge LA (area code 504 within the NANP, +1), because
when I finished with the earlier call and then hit '#', I entered the
NANP ten-digit number without first entering '1+'. And since '01(1)+'
isn't required, the 504 was picked up as Honduras' country code,
rather than southeastern Louisiana's area code!

My "personal account representative" told me that she understood that
this could be confusing or misleading, and she would see if she could
credit me.

I hope that AT&T takes this into consideration; and I am also pleased
with the friendliness and response from the "Personal Account
Representative" to see if she could credit me! And the card/account
itself was really a gift ... something I didn't have to pay for ... 
except that I am a high-toll-volume customer of AT&T.


MARK J. CUCCIA  PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:  HOME:  (USA)  Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
Tel:UNiversity 5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New Orleans 28  |fwds on no-answr to
Fax:UNiversity 5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail

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Subject: Prepaid Phone Card Scams
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:11:33 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Scam Artists Cheat Buyers of Prepaid Telephone Cards

By Simon Barker-Benfield, The Florida Times-Union, Jacksonville

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 27--A $25,000 fine by the Florida Public Service Commission is a
warning flag to consumers to make sure companies selling prepaid phone
cards can deliver on the service.

"It's a buyer-beware market,"said Rick Moses, a PSC communications
engineer supervisor.

Last week, the commission said it fined I.S.C. International
Telecommunications, (copy is garbled here) ... service providers,
including AT&T, GTE and MCI.

"The cost of entry is so low that it almost encourages three different
classes of people; the undercapitalized, the talent impaired and the
ethically challenged," Segermark said.

There have been problems with service providers selling more time than
they have bought.

Other tricks include delivering 54 seconds of calling time but
charging for 60 seconds, or increasing charges without warning,
Segermark said.

There have also been problems with inadequate equipment.

Segermark said he knew of companies who had gone into business with a
toll-free "800" number, an old personal computer designed for home use
and four modems.

"It's a small number of ripoff artists, but it hurts all legitimate
service providers," Segermark.

I.S.C. International Telecommunications was not fined for cheating
customers. It was fined for not following state rules for offering
telephone service.

Certification by the state of Florida is no guarantee that a service
provider can deliver what it says it will deliver. But at least it
requires demonstration of a minimum level of resources.

"They must prove their managerial, financial and technical
capability," said Moses. Companies must also file a price list.

One problem for regulators is that companies market the cards for a
period of time in a given area, then close up shop and move on. Some
of the companies are selling in Florida from bases in other states.

For instance, the PSC is having trouble tracking down I.S.C. 
International Telecommunications. It first refused to accept a
registered letter from the PSC at its Biscayne Boulevard offices in
Miami in July.

A second letter was returned with the notation "moved, no forwarding
address," said Paula Islar, the PSC investigator on the case.

Telephone numbers listed on the company's prepaid card have been
disconnected.  The account at BellSouth was listed in the name of
Interglobal Services Corp., according to PSC filings.

Phone card buyers can check to see whether their phone card company is
registered with the Public Service Commission by calling the division
of communications at (904) 413-6600 and talking to Tommy Williams or
Moses.

Consumers can also find out whether a service provider is a member of
the International Telecard Association by calling 1-800-333-3513.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting that AT&T was one of the
companies fined for poor performance in this area when considering
the marketing push they are making at this time according to the
earlier article in this issue by Mark Cuccia.   PAT]

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From: lars@anchor.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: 28 Dec 1996 18:06:07 -0800
Organization: RNS / Meret Communications


In article <telecom16.677.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu> kd1hz@anomaly.
ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

> You think that trying to change existing Internic records are bad,
> just try getting a new block of IP address assignments from them!

> I manage a large munipical wide-area-network. I filed paperwork with
> the Internic on several occasions asking for a block of Class-C IP
> address assignments to use on my network.

> The response, each time, was that I should contact my ISP and obtain
> IP address allocations from them.

As surprising as this may seem to you, this is the correct answer.

> So, I wrote back explaining that I was a large municipal wide-area
> network, and like many municipalities, the ISP was not 'set-in-stone'
> as it was a service that goes out to competitive bid every year or so.
> I explained that I was in no position to manually re-assign the IP
> address on the hundreds of machines under my control on a yearly basis
> should the ISP winning the contract change.

> Their response? "Please contact your ISP for an IP address allocation".

You seem to assume that if you were to get a "class C" sized address
assignment from the InterNIC ("provider-independent addresses"), it
would be globally routable, even if you change ISPs. The truth is that
it would not be routable ANYWHERE. As the global Internet routing
tables are now well over 30,000 entries, service providers are
refusing to advertise routes to networks whose addresses cannot be
aggregated into larger blocks. The only way to make small amounts of
address space aggregatable, is to assign it out of a larger block
assigned to the service provider ... then all other providers can just
maintain a single route for the entire aggregated block. Small
networks (less than a few thousand hosts) MUST renumber when their
connectivity changes.  The only exceptions are for addresses issued
prior to about 1993, when this policy was instituted. That old address
space (192.*.*.*) is known among network operators as the "Toxic Waste
Dump" because it is totally unstructured and cannot be aggregated.

You may ask why we can have telephone number portability for
individual numbers in the 800- and 888- service codes, but not for
blocks of a few hundred IP addresses? The answer is that telephone
numbers need to be looked up and routed only once per call, and as you
may have experienced, it takes a few seconds. On the other hand,
IP-addresses need to be looked up at each router for each packet
passing through, and at some major routing points, the flow is over a
quarter million packets PER SECOND.

> I went through this four times over the past year. I still don't have
> a block of IP addresses. I gave up six months ago and just selected a
> block at random to use. If and when we ever do connect to the Internet
> (not a high priority right now anyway) I'll worry about it then (and
> probably use another tool like a proxy server to "fix" it.)

If you don't need the addresses to be routable or globally unique, you
can use the addresses SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE FOR LOCAL ADMINISTRATION.
See RFC1597: "Address Allocation for Private Internets". A quote:

   The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
   following three blocks of the IP address space for private networks:

        10.0.0.0        -   10.255.255.255
        172.16.0.0      -   172.31.255.255
        192.168.0.0     -   192.168.255.255

It is unfortunate, if nobody explained this to you at the time, but
this particular issue has been given *a lot* of thought.


Lars Poulsen		Internet E-mail: lars@OSICOM.COM
OSICOM Technologies     (Internet Business Unit, formerly RNS)
7402 Hollister Avenue 	Telefax:      +1-805-968-8256
Santa Barbara, CA 93117	Telephone:    +1-805-562-3158

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From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: Cellular Translations (was Dialing Procedures and Charging)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:21:46 GMT
Organization: Catoosa Computing Services
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


On Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:21:53 -0800, you wrote:

> the 'SEND' button be pressed ... with my cellular, I can *still* even
> make 0+ calls in the 504 area code as _0+seven-digits+SEND_, whether
<snip>
> enter 0+504+seven-digits+SEND. Same goes for toll calls in 504 to the
> Baton Rouge LATA ... I can enter seven-digits+SEND, 1+seven-digits+SEND,

To comment:

This does *not* work in BSM/Chattanooga for all calls, mainly because
the Chatt local area is split between two area codes.

Local customers of BSM can dial seven digits for calls *within MOST of
the Chattanooga LATA/local calling area* whether the area code is 423 or
706.  HOWEVER, there are numbers that must STILL be dialed as TEN
digits, even though there's NO conflict:

706-397 Villanow, GA LOCAL, but STILL ROUTED BY BSM AS INTERLATA
  CALL, THROUGH SPRINT  <-- I have complained about this but their
  MTSO techs won't change the translations.  ALLTEL, the LEC In this
  area, says these calls should be routed as intRALATA...  

Oh FCC...

423-496, 706-492 Copper Basin, TN/GA = LOCAL on most plans (there
  is no B-side cellular here, of course)

706-462 Rising Fawn, GA INTERLATA TOLL (even though this area is
  INSIDE the Chatt LATA, and really should be LOCAL.)

205-437 Bridgeport, AL INTERLATA TOLL (again, withIN the Chatt
LATA)

(This is nearly as bad as ALLTEL's stupidity of requiring 7/10/11
digits for different local calls in the LaFayette, GA area.)

Calls outside the Chatt LATA (to Knoxville, Dalton/Atlanta, etc.)
whether toll is charged or not must be dialed as ten digits.  Both ten
and eleven digits are allowed as permissive for all calls.  Examples:

to call someone in Chatt (local):
  265-xxxx, 423-265-xxxx, 1-423-265-xxxx all work.

to call someone in Rossville, GA:
  861-xxxx, 706-861-xxxx, 1-706-861-xxxx

to call someone in Knoxville:
  423-522-xxxx, 1-423-522-xxxx

to call someone in Nashville:
  615-386-xxxx, 1-615-386-xxxx

to call LA, CA:
  213-221-xxxx, 1-213-221-xxxx

to call an 800 number:
  800-222-xxxx, 1-800-222-xxxx

CellularOne/GTE allows the dialing of seven digits for all of NPA 423,
and requires the area code for intra-region (within SID 93*) calls
that are "local", and 1+ the area code for out-of-region (outside SID
93*) calls:

to call someone in Chatt (local):
  265-xxxx, 423-265-xxxx, 1-423-265-xxxx

to call someone in Rossville, GA:
  706-861-xxxx, 1-706-861-xxxx

to call someone in Knoxville:
  522-xxxx, 423-522-xxxx, 1-423-522-xxxx

to call someone in Nashville:
  1-615-386-xxxx (even though call is rated for most customers as
    "local")

to call LA, CA:
  1-213-221-xxxx

to call 800:
  800-222-xxxx, 1-800-222-xxxx (888 requires the leading 1?!)

On both carriers, for 0+ calls 0 and the area code MUST be dialed.

*SID 93 now includes Chattanooga, Knoxville, and the Tri-Cities
(Bristol/Johnson City) area, as well as Bristol, VA and parts of five
counties in Georgia.  It does *not* include TN RSA 4 (licensed to
Bachtel Cellular, butcalls are switched by GTE in Knoxville.)

This doesn't apply to roamers, or even those customers part of the
"statewide*" local calling plans of CellOne, BSM and US Cellular, who
must dial ten digits for ALL calls (and for CellOne, 11 digits for
"out of NPA 423 or 800 or SID 93" calls.)  (*They are *not* statewide,
as has been posted before.)

When roaming, in fact, there is no true "standard" dialing procedure.
The B-side MobiLink standard (followed by the major B-side carriers,
except US Cellular and BANM) is:

  ten digits for calls local to the roaming area
  11 (1+) for calls outside the local roaming area

Some carriers [BellSouth] use ten digits for *all* calls; others
[Century Cellunet/Tupelo] allow seven digits for calls local to the
roaming area; yet others [ATTWS/NYC] require 1+ on *all* calls, even
local.


     Stanley Cline (Roamer1 on IRC) ** GO BRAVES!  GO VOLS!
         dba Catoosa Computing Services, Chattanooga, TN
  mailto:roamer1@pobox.com  **  http://www.pobox.com/~roamer1/

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From: dritchie@nacs.net (Don Ritchie)
Subject: Re: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed
Date: 28 Dec 1996 14:04:40 GMT
Organization: New Age Consulting Service, Cleveland, OH, USA


Steve Bagdon (bagdon@rust.net) wrote:

Lots of "big house" stuff snipped

> Basically, I'm looking for an AT&T Merlin system that can handle this
> setup. I don't know where the 'systems' fit into a particular scheme, ie:
> max extensions, max incoming lines, etc. I'm sure I'll go against all
> rules of the extension/lines ratio (I want a lot more extensions then
> lines), so I figure I'll have to overbuy to get the number of extensions
> that I want.

What is the reason you would buy/build a house like you discribed, and
put in a twenty year old Telephone system? Merlin hasn't really changed 
since the late 70's (and the legend is "just another Merlin") and even 
tends to be over-priced on the secondary market.

For not much more then you would pay for a used Merlin, you can buy a
new Panasonic. With Panasonic you can use single line telephones in
every port, if you wanted to, and only get one 4 port C.O. card.

With the Digital 1232 you could have just 4 "trunks" and as many as 64
stations IF YOU DID IT "RIGHT". (This would require 32 digital stations
and 32 single lines sets) but I digress.

I sell mostly Vodavi StarPlus, but in you kind of setting I would
recommend the Panasonic, Most likely the analog 1232 configured 4/24
would already be overkill and you could add another eight station card
and two more four C.O. cards. 

> So, is there a central clearing house for used Merlin equipment (cpus,
> extensions, etc) that an individual can buy from? Thanks in advance to
> anyone who can recommend a particular system, and where to get it at a
> reasonable price!

E-mail me with any questions.  I CAN supply equipment and may be able
to supply installation through a network of "friends". 


         Free advice is worth every penny you paid for it !
Don Ritchie               Century Communications            Euclid, Ohio
             e-mail dritchie@nacs.net   OR   k8zgw@hamnet.org

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From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Utah, 385, 435 and Possibilities
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 09:41:22 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Two weeks ago, Utah announced (rather inadvertently) that it had been
given a choice (by USWest) of one of *two* area codes for the state.
Having tipped its hand slightly (USWest has obviously reserved BOTH
numbers for use in their territory), USWest gave us a holiday
gift ... speculation. Here's are a few facts, and my 2c:

USWest territory, and NPAs needing relief in the next 24 months:

Arizona 602: no NXX 385, 435 in use (Glendale)
        520: no NXX 435, 385 in use (San Manuel)

Conclusion: Use would cause someone confusion; neither code could be
used here ...

Minnesota 612: 385 in use (Red Wing), 435 in use (Burnsville)

Conclusion: no-brainer ... even with mandatory 10D HNPA-L, no dice ...

Washington 206: (yeah, I got a feeling the 3-way in April won't last too
long):

While neither 385 nor 435 is in use in 206, both are in use in 360.
However, after the 206/253/425 split is completed, 206 will no longer
be adjacent to 360 ...

Conclusion: A slight possibility here, since neither NXX was used in 206
after 206/360. 

New Mexico 505: Neither 385 nor 435 is in use here. San Manuel, AZ
(520-385) is not local; Littlefield, TX (806-385) not local; Perryton,
TX (806-435) is not local; Odessa, TX (915-385) is also not local.

Conclusion: a much better possibility here, if it runs out of prefixes
before 206 ...

As for Utah itself, no adjacent state has an NXX 385 or 435 that would
be a 7D FNPA local call from Utah (closest 385 & 435 NXXs are both in
Las Vegas, NV!), so there is no general sway for Utah itself to favor
one code over the other. I predict a coin flip, or  perhaps an old
native legend to offer guidance in choosing the code.  :-) 

Given the above factors and conditions, the code not chosen by Utah
stands an excellent chance of being used for New Mexico in 1999 (give
or take a year).


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://206.112.101.209/jcbt2n/lincs/    

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Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net (Ronda Hauben)
    Re: New Area Codes (John Cropper)
    Re: Prepaid Phone Cards (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Re: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers (Michael Chance)
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From: rh120@columbia.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net
Date: 30 Dec 1996 17:57:51 GMT
Organization: Columbia University


>  Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:09:40 -0800 (PST)
>  From: Nathan Newman <newman@garnet.berkeley.edu>
>  Subject: [ENODE] How Business Almost Rerailed the Net

It seems there is a battle on, not quite that it is over, so it 
was a welcome event to see Nathan's article posted on comp.dcom.telecom


>      In a remarkable turn of societal imagination, many conservatives
> have begun picturing the computer age as the rejuvenation of
> small-scale entrepreneurial capitalism against the institutions of the
> nation state.  Whether it's Alvin Toffler "quantum revolution" or Newt

It doesn't seem it is just the conservatives. It is also unfortunate
that this is the image that the U.S. government (with the exception
thus far of the federal court in Pa) is trying to convey.

It is helpful that this article demonstrates that the mythology of so
called "competition" is just a veneer for the actuality of unregulated
conglomerates and monopolies trying to impose their view of the world
and their products on an uncooperative public.

But the more important fact that this all brings to light is that the
Internet was created as a scientific, educational resource.  As such
it made possible the public participation needed to develop technology. 
I have begun to document this in a new piece of work I am doing
applying Jurgen Habermas's notion of the need for a reemergence of the
public sphere to the development of Usenet and the early ARPANET
mailing lists.

> Gingrich promoting decentralization of economic decision-making to
> local regions, there has been a steady stream of conservative analysis
> making the case that new technology has made government's role,
> especially the federal government's role, irrelevant and even
> dangerous to the healthy functioning of the economy.

The development of new technology requires that government play
its crucial role.

My research about Usenet and the ARPANET mailing lists in the 1981-2
period (Usenet was formed in 1979 so this is fairly early in its
development) shows that there were important debates and discussions
on both early Usenet and on the ARPANET mailing lists carried on
Usenet during this period which examined the different views of
technology that the commercial world was promoting and that the
scientific and technical community needed.

For example, on the workstation mailing list FA.works there was a
discussion of whether Xerox should offer a programming language with
its new workstation. There was resistance from Xerox for offering a
programming language as that was in conflict with the commercial
control of its product, while those on the mailing list who were to be
the users of the workstation discussed how the lack of a programming
language would make the workstation useless to them. That they would
need to be able to customize their uses of the workstation and not
having a programming language would make their work impossible.

Thru this kind of discussion and debate Xerox was won to recognize
the need to offer a programming language.

>      Even THE ECONOMIST, a magazine with an early enthusiasm for the
> Internet and usually a somewhat more balanced eye, has described the

I haven't noticed the more balanced eye, but have instead felt the 
Economist has promoted the ideology of the so called "free market"
for quite a while, but I haven't particularly followed its Internet
coverage.

> success of the Internet as the "triumph of the free market over
> central planning. Democracy over dictatorship."  The new conservative

What is interesting is that democracy in the political realm needs
some sort of check over corporate power in the political and economic
realm.

This is helpfully pointed out in Habermas's work. He shows how in the
development of a political system there is a need to have debate and
discussion over crucial issues and that this is what happened in the
development of our current political forms in England, Germany and
France. (And others have pointed out how this was true as well in the
early days of the U.S.)

However, Habermas shows how public relations firms have been hired
by big corporate entities to put their narrow self interest out
to the public as the public interest.

The public debate and discussion over public issues is replaced
by public relations ads from corporate entities who propose their
ads as the news.

Habermas points out how this use of the press by corporate entities
has corrupted the press. 

And in a time of technological and scientific developments there
is a special need for the public to be able to discuss public
issues and questions to be able determine what will serve the 
public interest.

With the development of Usenet and the early ARPANET mailing lists
there was a reemergence of a public sphere where the public could
discuss technological developments and determine what was needed for
this to serve the public.

Such discussions also helped the companies who were developing
products as they could hear complaints when their products didn't meet
the needs of the public.

Unfortunately instead of recognizing and valuing this resource
represented by early Usenet and the ARPANET mailing lists,
corporations were eager to stop the criticism of their products and to
substitute public relations for such criticism.

Fortunately the Acceptible Use Policy (AUP) governing the ARPANET
and therefore also the ARPANET mailing lists carried on Usenet
forbid public relations activity and thus helped to nourish the 
development of a new public sphere.

Clearly much of the corporate world has been eager to get rid of this
prohibition against public relations activity on the Internet as they
want to corrupt it with their public relations activity as they have
much of the U.S. press.

Therefore instead of encouraging any discussion and debate about
what should happen with the Internet, much of the corporate world
in the U.S. at least, is encouraging the Internet as a new means
of consumerism.

However, Usenet and the Internet make it possible for people to 
be citizens of their countries (i.e. to participate in the important
public issues) and netizens (i.e. to participate in determining the 
affairs of the Net.)

Therefore there is a need to understand and encourage the reemergence
of the public sphere that mailing lists like comp.dcom.telecom and 
Usenet newsgroups make possible and to discuss and debate the
future of the Internet, as is being begun by this thread.

For those interested in these issues, the Netizens netbook which 
is online at http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook
documents the scientific and academic foundations of the ARPANET
and Usenet as the basis for the Internet. Government funding made
this all possible, and there is much to learn from this to help
to nourish the future development of the Internet. We welcome
comments and discussion of the articles in the Netizens netbook.


Ronda
rh120@columbia.edu
ronda@panix.com

P.S. A draft of my work on applying Habermas's framework to 
understand early Usenet is available if anyone is interested.

            Netizens: On the History and Impact
                of Usenet and the Internet
            http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook

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From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: New Area Codes
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:39:06 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Derek wrote:

> About a year or so ago, when additional area codes within the city  of
> Chicago were still in the planning stages, there was a debate whether
> or not they were going to divide up the city geographically, or whether
> they would just assign all NEW numbers the new area code, and leave all
> existing numbers alone.  This would mean that within city limits there
> would be two (or more) area codes scattered all throughout.  This would
> have a tremendous advantage in that millions of people would not be
> inconvenienced by their area code changing.  I believe it also meant
> that even if you were dialing a number across the street, you would
> need to include the area code.

Split proponents have used the 'mandatory ten-digit dialing' as a scare
tactic, although the FCC would be well-advised to make such dialing
mandatory to prevent such situations as will be present in Chicago (five
codes in the area), Seattle (soon to be four codes in the area), LA
(soon to be six codes), New York (soon to be seven codes), Miami (soon
to be five code) ... and the list goes on. 

> The final decision was to go with the geographical boundaries.  It seems
> to me it would be a small price to pay to key in 4 extra digits for a
> local number than to risk missed calls and missed business for millions
> of people because their phone number changed.

Splitting area codes has been the preferred method of relief since the
NANP was implemented in 1951. While old habits die hard, some people
(like Regina Costa of TURN, in California) REFUSE to let the concept of
area code splits die without a fight.

> Is there any city which uses this method of multiple area codes in a
> geographical area?  At the time the debate was a local debate.  Has
> this debate been raged in other cities?  Have any adopted this method?

In 1997, both of Maryland's area codes, and Pennsylvania's 412 will be
overlaid, making them the second, third, and fourth such overlay codes
behind New York's wireless 917 area code. Plans are under way by
USWest to possibly overlay Phoenix (602), and Denver (303, 570 has
been assigned for the relief plan there), and discussions will open
regarding the disposition of Minneapolis/St. Paul's 612 in
January. Bellsouth will be dicussing overlays for Atlanta's 404 and
770. Bell Atlantic is pushing them for 215, 610, and 717. NYNEX is
pushing for Manhattan (212) to have another overlay code
added. Finally, Canada is considering overlays for 416 and 514.


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
                                                   
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://206.112.101.209/jcbt2n/lincs/    

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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:14:33 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Prepaid Phone Cards


In TELECOM Digest (volume 16, issue 683), our moderator mentions to
Tad Cook's <tad@ssc.com> article on Prepaid Phone Card Scams:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting that AT&T was one of the
> companies fined for poor performance in this area when considering
> the marketing push they are making at this time according to the
> earlier article in this issue by Mark Cuccia. PAT]

The prepaid phone card (with 100-units of calling time) that AT&T sent
me in their marketing promotion is a "free gift" I received from them,
and I do appreciate it! It does have AT&T's logo on the front and back
of the card. On the front, it says "AT&T Personal Account Service -
AT&T Prepaid Card - 100 Units". The back of the card mentions an 800
number for the AT&T Prepaid Card Customer Service. BTW, there is *no*
magnetic stripe on the back of this AT&T Prepaid Phone Card. Also, the
back of the card mentions that the card expires on 12/31/97 (next
year), but I'll probably expire the card before then (maybe 31
December *this* year), as I've already used up most of the card, now
with only 7-units remaining!

As for me, when it comes to prepaid phone cards, I would *never*
actually choose to *pay money to buy* such a card. I consider the card
that I received from AT&T to be a *gift*, which the promotional
material which came with the card refers to it as. I *do* continue to
have various 'traditional' *credit* account calling cards from AT&T
and BellSouth, and even similar cards associated with an MCI account I
still have (but use only from time-to-time).

While some of these 'other' prepaid phone cards might actually
*utilize* the services of the AT&T long distance network as the
carrier (or MCI, Sprint, GTE, etc.), is AT&T's name or logo printed on
the card? If it is, has AT&T *authorized* the use of their logo? If
AT&T's *name* (but maybe *not* the trademarked logo) is indicated on
the card 'as the carrier' which actually *connects* the calls, the
*provider* of the prepaid card service is actually *reselling* the
services of AT&T's long distance network. It could be that AT&T isn't
really 'at fault' here ... rather the 'middleman' which provides such
cards to the public (the prepaid card's indicated *service-provider*
but not 'telco carrier' *nor* the store merchant) could really be the
one at fault.

The prepaid card I received in the mail (and it is a "free gift")
actually *came* from AT&T, with AT&T's name and logo on both sides of
the card. And the recorded voice greetings and menus when the 800
access number is dialed are those of AT&T, not some 'middleman'
prepaid phone card provider.

BTW, in my earlier article on these AT&T Prepaid cards, I mentioned
the "rate schedule" of how many units-per-minute are deducted for
calls to particular locations outside of North America. I mentioned
3-units for calls to the UK, but I forgot to include (the rest of)
Europe, which deducts 4-units-per-minute. Also there is no indication
of units-per-minute deducted for Africa on the original "rate/unit
schedule" provided by AT&T.  Since Asia/Pacific is 5-units-per-minute
deducted, I *assume* that the same number of units are deducted for
calls to Africa.

As for the actual *length* of a 'minute', I didn't actually time the
calls to see if I were 'short-changed' or if I was getting the full
amount of a minute for my 'unit(s)'. But remember that with most
carriers, through various different billing methods/services, you are
charged for a full minute whenever you *begin* a new minute of
conversation, even if you talk for only a fraction of a minute. i.e.,
if you place a call which is only 15 seconds total, you are charged
for one full minute; if you talk for 20 minutes and 10 seconds, you
are charged for 21 minutes, as you entered 'into' the 21st minute,
since you *continued* the conversation after you finished 20 full
minutes of talk time. Of course, some carriers do offer six-second
billing periods with some services.

Finally, many carriers and operator service providers (whether 'legit'
traditional telcos/IXC's or the AOSlime) accept 'commercial' credit
card numbers for billing (Visa, AmEx, MasterCard, etc). These days,
even AT&T accepts such cards when you get the 'bong' tone: "Please
enter your card number and PIN -- *OR* major credit card number and
the four digit expiration date, now". However, my understanding is
that billing telephone calls to such cards, even when handled by AT&T,
can result in surcharges and the like which are *much* higher than
AT&T's tariffed calling card rates!


MARK J. CUCCIA  PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:  HOME:  (USA)  Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
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From: Michael Chance <mc307a@helios.sbc.com>
Subject: Re: Bell Issuing Year-Long *Temporary* Numbers
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:25:12 CST


Andrew B. Hawthorn <ahawthorn@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I recently moved from Atlanta to Houston and became a Southwestern
> Bell customer.  When I contacted Southwestern Bell to set up my
> residential service, they assigned me two phone numbers that were in
> NPA 281 (which recently split from 713), despite being well inside
> Beltway 8, the approximate boundary for the geographic split.  The
> SWBT representative told me that all of the 713 numbers in my area had
> been taken and that I would have to be assigned a 281 area code
> number. It's not so much the annoyance of 10-digit dialing to old
> neighbors and 7-digit dialing to new neighbors that gets me; rather,
> it's the absurd fact that SWBT is changing my NPA *and* prefix within
> a year.

[ SWBT letter deleted ]

> I can't find any records that indicate that there is a 713-290-XXXX
> exchange.  Why couldn't they create one so that new customers could
> have a 713 number and wouldn't have to change their area code or
> prefix?  I find it terribly inconceivable that they are totally out of
> 713 numbers in my area.  Are they conserving these numbers?

Unfortunately, you've gotten caught up in the results of the Texas
PUC's waffling between an overlay and a geographic split of NPA 713
this past year.

The Texas PUC originally approved NPA 281 as an overlay on the rapidly
exhausting NPA 713, and SWBT and the various wireless carriers got
approval to start issuing new numbers with 281 numbers in advance of
resolving the technical issues of a landline overlay.  Then a number
of protests from various quarters *against* the overlay were
registered, and the PUC re-opened their decision, resulting in a
number of additional public hearings and numerous delays and they
swung back and for between the various competing proposals.  But
before they made the _final_ decision in favor of an split, several
landline wirecenters had completely exhausted their 713 number ranges,
and had even scavanged all of the available numbers from adjacent
wirecenters, as well.  So, a number of 281-NXX ranges were opened, on
both sides of the final split line.  You just happen to be on the 713
side of the line, and live in one of these areas.

There was some "pre-split" re-alignment work that was done in August,
as well, and the final re-alignment work (including your phone number)
will occur once the permissive dialing period ends, and each NPA is
free to use the duplicated NXX ranges that are now one the "wrong"
side of the split line.

Incidentally, there is a 713-290 NXX.  It's part of the 713-681
(Houston OVerland) wirecenter.  Your 281-290 number is part of the
713-781 (Houston SUnset) wirecenter, hence the need for re-alignment.


Michael A. Chance
FIRST Support Team
Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., St. Louis, Missouri
Tel.:  (314) 235-4119      Email: mc307a@helios.sbc.com

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From: jrauland@investec9.com (Jeff Rauland)
Subject: Re: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:27:49 GMT
Organization: Alpha.net -- Milwaukee, WI


On Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:21:44 -0400, in comp.dcom.telecom is written:

> So, is there a central clearing house for used Merlin equipment (cpus,
> extensions, etc) that an individual can buy from? Thanks in advance to
> anyone who can recommend a particular system, and where to get it at a
> reasonable price!

There is --  ACR Telecom -- we can get you any telecom equipment you
want at great savings -- new or refurbished -- with a warranty.

We also want to buy used phone systems -- working or not -- so if you
know of anyone that's got one to sell, please let them know about us.

I just got a bunch of Merlin equipment -- please check out my posting
(Update:  Telecom Gear For Sale) on Usenet -- there's an equipment
list there.

If you want 20 extensions, the smallest KSU you could go with would be
an 820, maxed out for 8 lines/20 stations.  

I've got a bunch of 5-button and 10-button phones (standard), some
HFAI-10's (hands-free), and some BIS-10's (speakerphones).  I've also
got two 34-button speaker phones, two 34-button deluxe phones and two
Busy Line Fields (shows which extensions are busy).

I might be able to sell you a 1030 cabinet, configured whatever way
you want it, but I'll have to wait a day or two, because I had already
proposed selling it to my brother-in-law -- if he says "no", you can
have your choice.

The stuff I have on hand I have taken in trade; thus its not
refurbished and has no warranty.  However, I can get you refurbished
Merlin equipment real cheap (not as cheap as the equip. I've got),
that all looks as new as the day it was manufactured, and has a
one-year warranty.  If you want to pay a little more, I think I can
get some Merlin equipment that comes with a three-year warranty.


ATT Merlin		
  1030 Cabinet			1	$150
  3070 Expansion Cabinet	1	$125
  Feature Module 4		1	$90
  SMDR Module			1	$35
  Service Module		1	$55
  CO Modules			5	$95
  10-Station Modules		5	$95
  820 KSU (2x5)			4	$125
  2x5 Modules			12	$25
  0x5 Module			1	$20
  2x0 Module			1	$20
  410 KSU's			2	$95
  Feature Pak II		4	$100
  Feature Pak I			1	$35
  Page/BGM/MOH Module	1	$35
		
  5-button phones		27	$45
  10-button standard phones	26	$60
  HFAI 10			2	$70
  BIS 10			6	$75
  SP 34				3	$60
  34 Deluxe			3	$65
  H8D2C Consoles		2	$75

For what you want to do, this is what I'd recommend:

    1 	820 KSU	  $125
    3       2x5 Modules   $ 75
    1	Feature Pak II	  $100
    1	MOH Module	  $ 35	(music on hold/bkgrd music)
    3	SP 34 Phones	  $195
   17	5-button Phones   $765
		          ========
			$1,295 + Shipping

** Please note that the above items have not been refurbished -- I
will guarantee not DOA, but they are offered for sale "as-is", with no
warratny.

For more information, please call Amy or Jeff at:  (800) 576-1309


Thanks,


Jeff Rauland
ACR Telecom

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From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: Utah, 385, 435 and Possibilities
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:12:21 -0800


In article <telecom16.683.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, psyber@mindspring.com
wrote:

> [ ...analysis of the possibility of using 385 or 435 as a relief NPA in
>  various USWest states ...]

> As for Utah itself, no adjacent state has an NXX 385 or 435 that would
> be a 7D FNPA local call from Utah. ... I predict a coin flip, or perhaps
> an old native legend to offer guidance in choosing the code.  :-) 

> Given the above factors and conditions, the code not chosen by Utah
> stands an excellent chance of being used for New Mexico in 1999 (give
> or take a year).

Based on the highly-unscientific technique of looking at what each
area code potentially SPELLS, I'd predict that Utah will take 385 and
leave 435 for somebody else.

Otherwise, 1/8 of the population of rural Utah will be consigned to
live in HEL-L, with another 1/8 needing HEL-P...  (435-5xx-xxxx or
7xx-xxxx) We could even put the "Manson Family" behind a PBX at
435-837-7535 x837 (left as an exercise for the reader).  Of course, if
those folks don't end up in HELL, then life will just be DULL*, I
guess.

On the other hand, there's a town that I'm sure would be happy to have
435-737-8824 as its city switchboard number.

* Yes, I know it also spells FULL, but DULL makes a better punch line.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 31 Dec 96 00:30:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 685

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Miami Herald on Telecom Competition (Tad Cook)
    Sleazy Telcos Get You by the Calls (Ray Normandeau)
    Book Review: "Expanding Your BBS" by Wolfe (Rob Slade)
    Intel to "Debunk" Telco ISP Complaints (oldbear@arctos.com)
    SPA Legal Action Against Small ISPs (Bill Sohl)
    Re: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed (we202c3f@aol.com)
    Re: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed (Robert Becnel)

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Subject: Miami Herald on Telecom Competition
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:11:58 PST
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)


Consumers Will Benefit from More Competitive Telecommunications Industry

By David Poppe, The Miami Herald

Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Dec. 30--Pleasantly plump Ma Bell, monopoly supplier of local
telephone service, is on her deathbed.

When she's gone, the telecommunications industry -- one of the
nation's largest -- will look profoundly different. Millions of
U.S. consumers will benefit. Many companies will disappear.

As a result of federal legislation and state-by-state regulatory
actions, thto survive from among the hundreds that today provide
telephone, cable TV or Internet service.

At the same time that companies are bracing for a new order, they're
fighting intensely to ensure it's favorable to them.

Herb Kirchhoff, editor of State Telephone Regulation Report, expects
1997 to be the year in which telephone companies go to court to try to
change new rules they don't like. He expects it could be five years
before the courts clear the air.

In the interim, investors should expect uncertainty. "There is going
to be just as much of it in '97 as there was in '96," he said. "So for
nervous investors, '97 will be another year of hell."

What makes deregulation so compelling is that, for the companies that
figure out how to deliver a full menu of services at a good price, the
rewards will be astronomical.

Local and long-distance telephone services generate about $160 billion
in annual revenue, with AT&T alone posting $51 billion in annual
sales. Cable TV is an estimated $25 billion-a-year industry. About 10
million people bought wireless telephones last year, and industry
revenues grew by 25 percent, to $21.5 billion. Some analysts believe
demand for Internet access will add another $20 billion to phone
company revenues by 2002.

Most analysts expect only a handful of today's big telecom players to
survive -- and virtually no small telephone companies, Internet
service providers or cable TV companies to remain independent. A
recent Yankee Group survey found that two-thirds of consumers like the
idea of buying all their telephone and cable TV services from one
company.

In the Southeast, the survey found, a slim plurality of 36.1 percent
prefer to use BellSouth for all their phone services; 35.1 percent
said they'd prefer AT&T.

About 4.6 percent said they'd use MCI, and even fewer picked Sprint --
but those two have traditionally done well with business customers and
affluent consumers, meaning their future revenues could be
disproportionate to their market share.

About 20 percent of consumers were undecided.

But that's not to say BellSouth or AT&T are prohibitive favorites to
dominate Florida's telecom industry. Some analysts fear the Bells'
lack of marketing expertise will hurt them in a competitive
environment. BellSouth stock was flat this year, despite rising
profits.

And AT&T has been restructuring for years, with little to show for
it. Its stock is off 5 percent this year, and profits are down.

The fear that only giants will survive deregulation has prompted many
smaller companies to look for suitable marriage partners.

"You've had four mega-billion dollar deals in the last 12 months, and
I don't think there's any reason to believe that it's all over," said
Bob McNamara, managing director at Broadview Associates, a New Jersey
mergers and acquisitions consultant. (The four deals he cites are the
mergers of MCI-British Telecom, Nynex-Bell Atlantic, Pacific
Telesis-Southwestern Bell and MFS-WorldCom.)

McNamara calls these mergers "hedging strategies" by anxious
companies. "The issue that each of the players is figuring out," he
said, "is how do I strategically best-position my company?
Defensively, how do I defend my turf, and offensively, how do I take
advantage of all the opportunities available to me?"

Why is the future so uncertain? Mainly because it is no mean feat to
make the telephone business competitive. Over the years, the heavy
hand of government regulation has tangled telephone charges in ways
that aren't easy to unwind.

In Florida, for example, consumers pay $10.65 per month for basic
local phone service. BellSouth says the fee is far below its actual
cost.

BellSouth, in turn, is subsidized by the long-distance companies,
which pay about 40 percent of their total revenues, or $30 billion a
year, in access fees to the regional Bell companies that connect their
long-distance phone calls.

The access fee is meant to reimburse the Bells for offering phone
service to the poor and in rural areas. But industry analysts say the
charges are much higher than the Bells' actual cost, providing the
Bells with fat profits.

The popularity of the Internet throws a monkey wrench into the
system. The government has exempted Internet service providers from
paying access charges for connecting computers over the telephone
lines. As a result, it's cheaper to send data via electronic mail than
over a fax line. That boosts Internet traffic, but reduces
long-distance company revenues.

Also, many companies are developing software that would enable people
to talk over the Internet. If successful, Internet telephony would be
much cheaper than conventional long-distance calling. That would reach
much deeper into the long-distance companies' purses.

The Federal Communications Commission plans to reexamine the whole
system.

At the state level, regulators are setting the terms under which new
competitors will be allowed to enter the local telephone business.

That's not an easy process, either.

Because BellSouth owns a $10 billion telephone network in Florida,
built under the umbrella of monopoly protection, competitors won't be
expected to build competing networks to offer local phone service.

Instead, they'll be able to buy access to BellSouth's system and
resell phone service under their own brand names.

But because local telephone rates are heavily subsidized by long-
distance users, regulators have struggled to determine how much
BellSouth should charge new entrants for access to its service.

Both AT&T and MCI have expressed disapproval of the Florida Public
Service Commission's framework for competition. The PSC says BellSouth
must grant newcomers a 21.8 percent discount off the rates it charges
regular consumers.

AT&T says 21.8 percent won't be enough to let it sell service at a
price competitive with BellSouth's prices. "The commission didn't set
the rules correctly," said Mike Tye, an AT&T government affairs vice
president. "Given the way the rules are coming out skewed ... the real
disadvantage is going to come to the consumer."

In an allusion to litigation, Tye said, "There will have to be some
maneuvering on our part" in 1997.

In addition to regulatory uncertainty, there is uncertainty about the
future demand for some services.

McNamara, the mergers specialist, noted that nobody knows whether the
huge investments that phone companies have to make to become
full-service providers will pay off.

"Nobody has quite figured out how soon demand for video services is
going to take off. And people aren't sure if the Internet is a fad, or
are we just at the tip of the iceberg," he said.

Yet the phone companies can't wait around to see how things will shake
out.  They're making moves today that anticipate a different business
environment tomorrow.

BellSouth, for example, is rolling out PCS wireless phone service in
the Carolinas and Eastern Tennessee and testing video services in
Atlanta, with an eye on challenging cable TV operators. It's also
testing a program where it jointly markets traditional telephone
service and wireless service, with consumers getting one bill for all
their phone lines.

And over the past two years, BellSouth has consolidated all its
businesses under one brand name, so that customers no longer do
business with Southern Bell, South Central Bell or BellSouth Mobility.

That's a move made strictly for the future. With all its services sold
under a single name, BellSouth can afford a huge advertising campaign.

"We want consumers to understand that going forward, if you have
communications needs, there's a company that you probably already do
business with that can address those needs," said Kevin Doyle, a
BellSouth spokesman.

Early returns are promising. "Our brand, in our region, is very
strong. There's nobody in our region who is stronger than us," he
said.

Boyd Peterson, a telecommunications analyst at Yankee Group in Boston,
said BellSouth is rare among the Baby Bells, which aren't used to
marketing products:

"It is one of the best-run. It seems to me to be the most focused,
from a marketing perspective."

Analysts think BellSouth might be the only Bell to survive the next
few years as an independent company. "If any company could, it would
be BellSouth or Ameritech," Peterson said.

McNamara agreed, although he predicted that within a decade virtually
all of today's top phone companies will gobble up smaller players --
or be eaten themselves.

"Do I think BellSouth will do a multibillion dollar deal in the next
five years? Yes. Do I think they have to do something in the next two
years? No.  There's not the urgency for them," he said.

Herb Kirchhoff said he expects legal challenges to various state and
FCC rulings to go on for years, suggesting that BellSouth would be
wise to wait before tying its future to another company.

However, he said it's not too early to see that the regional Bell
companies will have significant advantages over the long-distance
companies.

In Kirchhoff's view, one might think of AT&T, MCI and Sprint as owning
interstate highway systems, while each Bell company controls all of
the surface streets in its region.

Once the industry is deregulated, Kirchhoff said, it will be a lot
easier for a company like BellSouth to lease space on the highway to
carry its long-distance calls than it will be for AT&T to buy access
to the local streets, which it needs to complete every call on its
system.

He said the discounts offered to long-distance companies in Florida
and elsewhere will not enable them to undercut the Bells' prices for
local service.

But the Bells, conversely, will be able to undercut the long-distance
companies, because they'll be able to negotiate with more than one
"highway" system to carry telephone traffic. Also, unless the FCC
changes access charges, the Bells will pay themselves an access fee
every time they carry a long-distance call.

"In effect, it is a super-hidden discount that allows a lot of pricing
flexibility," Kirchhoff said of the Bells paying access fees to
themselves.  "For the folks that are powers in long-distance now, they
have every reason to be terribly worried."

But Yankee Group's telecom analyst, Boyd Peterson, said long-distance
companies are generally much better at marketing than the Bells. He
believes that AT&T, MCI, Sprint and others will succeed by creating
new service packages that combine many services into one bill.

For example, he said a company such as MCI could offer a local phone-
service package for $30 a month that would include caller ID and call
waiting as standard features and would expand the local service area
to include all of the 305 and 954 area codes.

The flat rate would be high, but consumers would get more.

"What we think of as local phone service is going to be redefined,"
Peterson said.

Janet Craft, assistant vice president of sales at BellSouth Business
Systems, agrees. She markets BellSouth service to large businesses,
the one area of the telecom market where buyers have a choice for
local phone service.

Craft said she sees companies scrambling to offer new services and
cutting prices to retain good ones. One common strategy is to offer a
popular service, perhaps long-distance, as a loss-leader to customers
who spend a lot on telecommunications.

The toughest part? Maintaining profits.

"There must be some kind of margin," Craft said. "You can't go into a
death spiral."

She predicts regular consumers will eventually reap the same rewards
that big business customers enjoy: simplified pricing, more product
offerings and better customer service from their phone company.

"There are going to be so many funky things happening in the next 18
months," she said. "It's going to be amazing."

------------------------------

Subject: Sleazy Telcos Get You by the Calls
From: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 96 16:00:00 -0500
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York NY - 212-274-8110
Reply-To: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau)


CONTACT: Ray Normandeau 718-392-1267
Email: ray.normandeau@factory.com
http://www.buzznyc.com/actors/res.normandeau.raymond.html
http://www.buzznyc.com/actors/res.frazier.rita.html


                      Sleazy Telcos Get You by the Calls
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have you been slammed lately?

In telephone company parlance, "slamming" is when your long distance
company is switched against your will.

Ray Normandeau and Rita Frazier Normandeau of Queens, New York were
recently surprised to receive a letter addressed to Mrs Normandeau
stating: "Welcome! We have received your LONG DISTANCE APPLICATION AND
ENTRY FORM for the Qcc Ford Explorer or $10,000 Cash Giveaway. ...

With Qcc, your rates for state-to-state calling are among the lowest in
the industry. Daily 19.9./minute,    Evenings/Weekends 17.9./minute."

The Normandeaus were a bit taken aback as Mrs Normandeau never had
filled out such an application and would never even consider such
rates as their current carrier LCI offers Daily 19; Evenings of
14; with Weekends at 12, all with a minimum of thirty seconds, or
calls as low as six cents coast-to-coast.

To add insult to injury, Qcc stated that there would be a monthly fee
of three dollars for this overpriced service!

The letter threatening them that they would be switched against their
will and charged thirty-six dollars a year was signed by K. Martin
Chadwick, Customer Service Manager at 1-800-267-0157.

Altho the Normandeaus are members of Screen Actors Guild and the
American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, they are out of
work and must watch every penny. So they decided to call this
sleaze-ball Chadwick to demand to see a copy of this "LONG DISTANCE
APPLICATION AND ENTRY FORM".

Every time they called for Chadwick at 1-800-267-0157, Chadwick was
always at a meeting or out for the day.

Finally one of the co-conspirators at Qcc said that the Normandeaus
would be faxed a copy of the application the next day. Several days
later the fax still had not arrived. Ray Normandeau then called
1-800-267-0157 again and upon being told that Chadwick was at a
meeting said "I'll hold on until he comes out." Qcc hung up on him. He
kept calling back as the 1-800-267-0157 was on their bill and refused
to give up.

Finally Qcc faxed Mrs Normandeau's "application" which not only was an
obvious forgery but even had her signature misspelled!

NYNEX billed the Normandeaus five dollars for switching long distance
carrier to Allnet which was obviously paying Qcc for fraud and
forgery.

With all the long distance calls to be billed for Hanukkah, Christmas,
Kwanzaa and New Year's, some customers will be very surprised when
they see calls billed by strange phone companies at strange rates with
strange monthly service charges.

There is one way that anyone can immediately find out if they have
been slammed. That is to call 1-700-555-4141 from their home phone. A
recording will tell you who is handling your long distance calls.

The Normandeaus are happy that New Years Day is one of eight holidays
when LCI gives customers half an hour of calling at a penny a minute
because on that day they will be faxing Washington. Their
Congressperson (Tom Manton, D-Queens) is a member of the Congressional
telecommunications sub-committee.

They are also offering to fax the media copies of the forged
application and are making themselves available for media interviews
while they are not working.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:32:22 EST
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Expanding Your BBS" by Wolfe


BKEXPBBS.RVW   960923
 
"Expanding Your BBS", David Wolfe, 1995, 0-471-11566-5, U$34.95
%A   David Wolfe dwolfe@pandy.com
%C   5353 Dundas Street West, 4th Floor, Etobicoke, ON   M9B 6H8
%D   1995
%G   0-471-11566-5
%I   Wiley
%O   U$34.95 416-236-4433 fax: 416-236-4448 800-567-4797 fax: 800-565-6802
%P   371
%T   "Expanding Your BBS"
 
Since the publication of "The BBS Construction Kit" (cf. BKBBSCON.RVW), 
Wolfe has kept some of his views, changed others, and added more.  He
now, though, more strongly identifies opinions as such, and is more
inclined to provide reasons.  The result is that this work is still
useful, but is much more good- humored.
 
As with his prior work, this guide is eminently practical.  It even
starts with an in-depth overview of batch files, and the COMMAND.COM
replacement 4DOS.  Wolfe then proceeds to cover advanced modem and
port information, fax capability, fossil drivers, doors (BBS add-on
programs), graphics, CD-ROM, QWK, and Internet connectivity.  The
discussion of ports was the only disappointment, still failing to
cover the addition of more than two modems with standard hardware.
 
With the rise of interest in the Internet, the running of a BBS is
becoming something of a lost art.  BBSes are by no means dead, though,
and for those still keen on the local online scene this makes an
excellent reference.
 
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1996   BKEXPBBS.RVW   960923. Distribution
permitted in TELECO Digest and associated publications.


DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer        ROBERTS@decus.ca         rslade@vanisl.decus.ca
      BCVAXLUG Envoy      http://www.decus.ca/www/lugs/bcvaxlug.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:55:09 -0500
From: The Old Bear <oldbear@arctos.com>
Subject: Intel to "Debunk" Telco ISP Complaints


It will be interesting to see the Intel submission to the FCC which 
is mentioned in the last paragraph ... 

  FCC RELUCTANT TO APPLY ACCESS CHARGES TO INTERNET PROVIDERS

  The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) says that Internet 
  Service Providers (ISPs) should not have to pay the same 
  "access fees" that long-distance companies now pay to local 
  phone companies for connecting long-distance calls at their 
  initiation and destinations.  

  ISPs are not currently paying such fees, although the local phone 
  service companies argue that Internet usage accounts for an 
  increasing amount of phone traffic and the phone companies are 
  being prevented from recovering the associated costs.  

  AOL chief executive Steve Case dismisses such arguments as a 
  request for a "modem tax," and Intel executive Paul Misener says 
  that Intel will submit to the FCC a paper that will "debunk Bell 
  studies which have wildly overstated the negative impact on their 
  network" resulting from Internet communication.  

  source: New York Times
          December 26, 1996
          page C2

  via edupage

------------------------------

From: billsohl@planet.net (Bill Sohl)
Subject: SPA Legal Action Against Small ISPs
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:26:46 GMT
Organization: BL Enterprises


Just received the Feb. 97 issue of {Internet World} and it contains
another excellent article by Attorney Mike Godwin (of CDA fame).  The
article is entitled "Foul Play" and as its intro contains the
following: "The Software Publishers Association appears to be using
strong-arm tactics to force small ISPs to settle meritless lawsuits."

The three page article chronicles Mike's investigation of one alleged
complaint by SPA against a single, small ISP.  Mike notes: "The SPA's
code of conduct seems to put each ISP in the role of policing content
on the net as a whole."

Rather than tell all here, I suggest that everyone who wants an open
internet free of privacy violations by ISPs should read the article
and judge for yourself what is going on.


Bill Sohl (K2UNK)               billsohl@planet.net
Internet & Telecommunications Consultant/Instructor
Budd Lake, New Jersey

------------------------------

From: we202c3f@aol.com 
Subject: Re: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed
Date: 30 Dec 1996 20:27:16 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


Steve, have you considered a Partner Plus system (AT&T)? You could use
two 2 line by 6 station plus one 0 by 6; the multiline sets use two
pair rather than the 4 pair of Merlin (though I would recommend wiring
your whole house with at least 4 pair home run from each staion to the
basement). 

The 3 multiline sets you want can be bridged with single line sets,
cordless, ans. mach, whatever on the same port -- just use a bridging
adapter (ie a 12 button phone and a trimline on the same port, say
ext. 14) ... even rotary phones will work; (each turn of the dial is
translated to a dtmf tone as you dial). I like being able to use
everyday phones -- proprietary single line sets (as with the comdial
dxp) obviates the need for touchtone receivers and ring generators but
necessitates added expense for proprietary digital phones. A trimline
touch-tone wall is plenty for a bathroom. I'm using a Partner Plus at
my house with three partner multi-line sets and the rest single lines.

The single lines can be programmed for intercom dial tone first, dial
9 for an outside line, though if programmmed to ring on incoming calls
from the c.o., then with ringing line preference you just pick up to
seize the trunk call; then you can flash and transfer to another
extension.

------------------------------

From: becnel@crl.com (Robert Becnel)
Subject: Re: AT&T Merlin Used Equipment Needed
Date: 30 Dec 1996 05:49:23 -0800
Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060  [Login: guest]


Steve Bagdon (bagdon@rust.net) wrote:

> My wife and I believe we have *finally* found our first house, so tha
> means I can finally wire up a property the way I've always wanted to.
> We've rented up to now, so wiring a house for networking, phone
> systems, television, etc, has never gotten past the planning stages -
> no reason to put a lot of work into a house that we don't own!

Wow!  I'd like to visit you houst just to play with the toys. :)

Wouldn't you rather just buy a 900 MHz portable and put the cost into 
something else, like a big screen?  :-)


Robert G. Becnel  becnel@crl.com (email)  http://www.crl.com/~becnel (www)

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 31 Dec 96 01:44:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 686

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    MCI Criticizes NYNEX Order Processing System (Mike Pollock)
    North American Numbering Council (Mark J. Cuccia)
    MCI Bait-And-Switch Beware (Ron Bolin)
    IntraLATA Operator Receiving InterLATA Calls? (Stanley Cline)
    Construction of New Telecom Infrastructure (R. Lipschult)
    Where Can I Find Used Phone Equipment (Paul Rob SJ)
    Employment Opportunity: Senior ISDN/ADSL/Cable Modem Designers (Steve Ide)
    Seeking Out Source For Bulk FAXing? (Gloria MacFarland)
    Should Pay Phones Post Rates (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: AT&T's New Prepaid Phone Card (Peter Corlett)
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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:05:45 -0800
From: Mike Pollock <pheel@sprynet.com>
Organization: SJS Entertainment
Subject: MCI Criticizes NYNEX Order Processing System


A recent report appearing on Yahoo:

MCI Criticizes NYNEX Order Processing System for Delaying Customers'
Ability to Switch Local Telephone Companies

WASHINGTON, Dec. 30 /PRNewswire/ -- A seriously flawed NYNEX order
processing system is delaying the ability of New Yorkers and New
Englanders to switch their local telephone service to another company,
MCI said today.

The NYNEX system fails to meet system standards established by the
Federal Communications Commission, MCI said. The FCC is requiring
local telephone monopolies to install electronic order processing
systems by January 1 to ensure that customers who chose to switch
their local telephone company can do so easily and quickly, MCI said.

The NYNEX system does not meet the FCC test because it is an interim
plan that requires manual input from sales representatives and is not
an electronic, system to system solution. The manual system can lead
to serious delays and errors in processing customer sales orders and
other pertinent information.

A fully automated electronic order processing system better enables
companies to share information required to handle new service
requests, repair calls and billing information. Electronic systems
allow competitors to more quickly and more effectively resell local
network capacity at a lower cost to customer.

"Customers want choices when selecting a phone company for local
service," said Donald T. Lynch, MCI senior vice president for
financial operations and accounting. "They won't tolerate
inconvenience or delays. NYNEX is simply not preparing a system that
can meet customer needs."

"We already are competing with NYNEX through our own, state-of-the-art
local networks. Allowing NYNEX to use this flawed order processing
system would severely limit MCI's ability to expand local competition
by competing in the resale market."

"The ability to compete through resale is critical, because it gives
customers a greater number of choices for local service and allows
competitors to quickly reach more customers."

MCI has discussed the problems inherent in the NYNEX system, known as
a Graphical User Interface (GUI), with other companies planning to
enter the local market in NYNEX territory. No other company felt the
GUI system could handle a large volume of customer requests. The
serious ordering and maintenance problems with the NYNEX system
inhibit a competitor's ability to process new customers' requests and
service their accounts. This in turn slows down the ability of
competitors to provide high quality, low cost customer service and
will therefore delay the expansion of local competition.

Because the NYNEX order processing system is not fully automated,
competitors must manually input information which needlessly limits
the volume of customer requests that can be processed and delays a
customer's ability to change local service providers. In addition,
sales representatives cannot know electronically what features and
services are available at a given local switch.

In addition, sales representatives:

 -- have to make needless double entries using multiple computer
screens; are unable to electronically save a customer service record
on the current system;

 -- can only offer a customer one number, while NYNEX can offer a
choice of three;

 -- must wait up to 24 hours to be notified of an editing error in the
processing of a customer's order;

 -- do not have access to an on-line table of NYNEX maintenance codes
and must receive additional training.

MCI, headquartered in Washington, D.C., provides a full range of
integrated communication services to more than 20 million customers.
Credited with opening up the U.S. long distance market for
competition, MCI is now leading the charge to bring competition to the
$100 billion local market, offering American consumers for the first
time the freedom to choose their local carrier. With quarterly
annualized revenue of more than $18 billion, MCI is one of the largest
and fastest growing telecommunication companies in the world. 

SOURCE MCI

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:22:26 -0800
From: Mark J. Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: North American Numbering Council


The North American Numbering Council (NANC) which is supposed to take
over numbering administration in World-Zone/Country-Code +1 from
Bellcore NANPA at some point in the near future now has webpages of
its own located at the FCC's website. The full URL is:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/WWW/NANC/

There are several webpages available from this homepage, as various
text files (.txt), MS-Word (.doc) and Word Perfect (.wpd) documents
and files to either be clicked to or downloaded.

At the present time, Bellcore NANPA still does the majority of 'top
level' numbering administration in the North American Numbering Plan.

BTW, many of the industry forums and committees which I frequently
refer to are undergoing a reorganization and renaming for
1997. Details can be found at ATIS' (the Alliance for
Telecommunications Industry Solutions) website: http://www.atis.org
click on "ATIS Committees": http://www.atis.org/atis/committe.htm then
go to "CLC and IILC Reorganize, January 1, 1997":
http://www.atis.org/atis/clc/clc.htm


MARK J. CUCCIA  PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:  HOME:  (USA)  Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
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From: Ron Bolin <rlb@mindspring.com>
Subject: MCI Bait-And-Switch Beware
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:50:40 -0500
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises


I just recently changed from AT&T to MCI. MCI promised significantly
lower rates when they called me to switch.  They had some third party
call and confirm my change and service. After a month on MCI I found
that they did not honor their rates and that the rates were actually
higher than AT&T.

I have a major problem with this kind of marketing. I call it a lack
of integrity. Needless to say I switched back to AT&T and will never
consider MCI again.

Get it in writing before you change providers.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you 'get it in writing before you
change providers' then you probably never will change providers since
all of them hate to write letters or make any written commitments.
I do not know why it is, but getting any telemarketer -- not just the
ones for phone companies -- to engage in written correspondence is
almost impossible. Telephone companies in particular never like to
write letters it would seem.   PAT]

------------------------------

From: roamer1@pobox.com (Stanley Cline)
Subject: IntraLATA Operator Receiving InterLATA Calls?
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 07:18:45 GMT
Organization: Catoosa Computing Services
Reply-To: roamer1@pobox.com


BellSouth Mobility's long distance now appears to believe that
intraLATA (LEC) operators can handle all calls, regardless of their
destination ...

I was testing some other things from my cellular phone earlier today
(does 0+500 still work?  Do some new access codes work?) and dialed
0+706+some number *outside* of the Chattanooga LATA ... the BELLSOUTH
operator answered.  I apologized and hung up, I looked at what I'd
dialed and it *WAS* outside the Chatt LATA.  I dialed a number in NPA
303 -- Denver, CO, far away from here -- and STILL got the BellSouth
operator!

Never mind LEC operators can't handle interLATA calls, and must hand
them off to an IXC (often resulting in surcharges, as with AT&T, or
just generally high prices, as with the "I Don't Care" family of
companies.)  And I still get charged airtime, even if I hang up to
dial 10288, an 800 number, etc., as the calls supervise when the
operator ANSWERS, NOT when a call is connected!  Note that intRALATA
calls (except for some specific prefixes) and calls dialed with access
codes (10288, etc.) are not affected.

As soon as a month ago, 0+ interLATA (and some intRALATA) calls were
routed to an intercept -- "This feature is not currently available to
you" -- but now *all* 0+ calls go to BellSouth.  I can't understand
this, as they should route the 0+ calls to either Sprint (the carrier
providing BellSouth Mobility's "own" LD service) or AT&T (who GTE/CellOne,
the bulk of other carriers, and even BSM when I'm ROAMING, rely on for
0+.)  Or they could contract with an operator-service provider, such
as USLD or MCI's "carrier operator services", to provide 0+ service.
Or maybe BellSouth is *wanting* customers to pay the LD carriers'
surcharges or high prices.  I dunno ...

This is not the first time BellSouth has messed up translations in the
Chattanooga MTSO, of course -- at one time, some local calls were not,
and were charged as INTERLATA [by BellSouth LD, LCI, and AT&T,
depending on my "carrier of the month"] even they are both INTRALATA
and LOCAL.  They no longer charge for the calls -- after I complained
 -- but are *still* sending those calls through Sprint, instead of the
LEC lines as should be done.  BellSouth claims the problem is caused
by the LECs serving the affected areas, but the LECs -- both indepen-
dents -- claim it's BellSouth causing the problems.  They are sending
calls to Copper Basin, TN (inside the Chatt LATA; US Cellular is
licensed to serve the area -- but they don't) and to the Bridgeport,
AL area (in Chatt LATA, but served by Huntsville, AL BSM) to Sprint as
well.

Next thing I know, the LEC operator will handle *all* calls (BSM) or
*none* at all (payphones, under new FCC regs.)  It'll get even more
confusing, as LATAs (for practical purposes) may soon have no meaning.


     Stanley Cline (Roamer1 on IRC) ** GO BRAVES!  GO VOLS!
         dba Catoosa Computing Services, Chattanooga, TN
  mailto:roamer1@pobox.com  **  http://www.pobox.com/~roamer1/

------------------------------

From: rlipschult@aol.com (R. Lipschult)
Subject: Construction of New Telecom Infrastructure
Date: 30 Dec 1996 21:39:26 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


I am trying to locate info on the construction of the new tower,
antenna and other infrastructure being built to make use of the
bandwidths the FCC has been auctioning off since 1994. Where can I
find out what has been built, by whom & where. Also the technical and
market analysis needed to select sites & the equipment needed at those
sites.

Thanks for any info or other help. 


Rick Lipschultz Tel 847 677 4051  Fax 847 677 3846. 
email Rlipschul@aol.com

------------------------------

From: paulrobsj@aol.com (Paul Rob SJ)
Subject: Where Can I Find Used Phone Equipment
Date: 31 Dec 1996 03:37:51 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


Is there a Web page or Usenet group that deals with used PBX
equipment?  I have some to sell, and I need to buy some.


Thanks,

PaulRobSJ@aol.com


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Buyers and sellers please respond
directly to each otehr, and *not* to the Digest. Thanks.    PAT]

------------------------------

From: sai1@mindspring.com (Steve Ide)
Subject: Employment Opportunity: Senior ISDN/ADSL/Cable Modem Designers
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:52:23 -0400
Organization: interspeed


If you are a very senior (ten years plus) designer/engineer guru who
would like more than just a job but a unique opportunity to share in
the profits of a new company in the boston area please contact me
asap.  We are a fully funded subsidiary of a well known 12 year old
telecommunications firm wishing to expand into the high speed modem
market.  

This is an opportunity to have all the excitement and rewards of a
start-up without the risk. We have a fully equpped lab west of Boston
 -- t1/fr isdn and cable modem facilities . If your entreprenuerial
spirit wants to be set free contact me for details.


sai1@mindspring.com tel 617 455 7120 fax 617 455 7133.

------------------------------

From: mediabrokr@aol.com (MediaBrokr)
Subject: Seeking Out Source For Bulk FAXing
Date: 30 Dec 1996 16:59:48 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


We are seeking an out source to handle a large volume of our faxing.

We are a marketing company based in Southern California.  We develop
qualified prospects for our clients, who range from Fortune 500 firms,
to start ups doing a few hundred thousand dollars a year in business.
We develop prospects for our clients' products via broadcast fax.  Our
volume has increased to a point where we need to develop an out source
or out sources to handle our overload.  Please consider the following:

1.  Sprint can fax our one page marketing documents in approximately
54 seconds (this is the result of a 35,000 fax test to companies
nationwide).  Internally, we do about the same.  Your technology must
be able to approximately match this transmission rate.

2.  We can move between 100,000 and 200,000 one page faxes monthly to
an outside fax service.

3.  We will pay only for the faxes which actually go through.

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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Again I suggest that interested
parties respond direct rather than through the Digest.    PAT]

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com (Lisa Hancock)
Subject: Should Pay Phones Post Rates?
Date: 31 Dec 1996 00:13:01 GMT
Organization: Net Access BBS


When I argue against private payphones, advocates say consumers should
be able to make their own choices, rather than "big brother" (be it
government or the phone company) making it for them.

IMHO, private pay phones are generally a rip-off of consumers.

To make them fair, why can't the law require prices be posted on near
pay phones, in readable print?  We have laws requiring supermarkets to
properly price items on shelves or have accurate shelf stickers.  Some
states require gasoline pumps to have prominent prices, not just a
tiny figure in the pump meter.

Now that pay phones are unregulated, why can't we show a price card as
well?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:32:51 GMT
From: Peter Corlett <peter@verrine.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: AT&T's New Prepaid Phone Card
Organization: Metamedia


In article <telecom16.683.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu> is written:

> More voice-recording prmpts are now heard -- first indicating how many
> units are remaining on the card, and if enough, then instructing you
> to enter '1' if the call is in the US, Canada or the Caribbean, then
> the area code and local seven digit number; *OR* to enter the country
> code plus city-code and local number of a country outside of North
> America.

> NOTE: *** "You do not need to enter the 011 before the country code,
> because AT&T does it for you." ***

> In other words, you are entering the 'full worldwide' telephone
> number, without any 'access prefixes'. Calls within the NANP are
> preceded with a '1' (which you do normally dial from a home/business
> phone on 'station sent paid' calls, anyhow), and all calls to non-NANP
> locations are dialed with the country code first, and then continuing.

This all seems more logical when one remembers that the country code
for the USA is 1, and so _all_ calls are dialed from the same point
of reference, that is from an international level, back into the USA
if necessary.

People in the UK don't consider the idea of dialing the full
international code for a call within the UK either, because it is not
particularly useful for the Joe Public, but also because it doesn't
work from most networks. Indeed, British Telecom have various test
numbers starting 0044 (i.e. international call, destination UK) and
many other networks haven't implemented this either. Interestingly,
the aging, and well-hacked Cellnet ETACS analogue mobile phone
service, to be retired soon, correctly routes a call starting 0044 to
a UK destination.

The biggest surprise about the BT test numbers, is that when one is
found that gives answer supervision, it is itemised on the
international section of the bill, and charged at a high rate, much
higher than a call to the USA for example, and has the destination
listed as `United Kingdom'. When BT's customer services [`Planet 150']
are challenged about these calls, they come up with all sorts of weird
and wonderful excuses, but no real explaination. Hence the nickname
`Planet 150', since one dials 150 to contact them, and they are
clearly not on Planet Earth.

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: AT&T's New Prepaid Phone Card
Date: 31 Dec 1996 04:36:44 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.683.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Mark J. Cuccia
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

> In other words, you are entering the 'full worldwide' telephone
> number, without any 'access prefixes'. Calls within the NANP are
> preceded with a '1' (which you do normally dial from a home/business
> phone on 'station sent paid' calls, anyhow), and all calls to non-NANP
> locations are dialed with the country code first, and then continuing.

One interesting thing about this is that you can view the "1" as the
normal prefix before area code, or you view it as a country code. I
always thought this was an interesting coincidence(?).


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: Peter Bell <bell@pantheon.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Prepaid Phone Card Scams
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:00:00 EST


Article <telecom16.683.2@massis.lcs.mit.edu> says:

> Last week, the commission said it fined I.S.C. International
> Telecommunications, (copy is garbled here) ... service providers,
> including AT&T, GTE and MCI.

and you append:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting that AT&T was one of the
> companies fined for poor performance in this area when considering
> the marketing push they are making at this time according to the
> earlier article in this issue by Mark Cuccia.   PAT]

Now, does the earlier article say ATT was one of the ones fined?
Cause the one you've made the comment in respect to doesn't seem to; I
almost think it might be saying that the bunco artists in questions
were telling people the LD time they had was bought from ATT, GTE and
MCI.


Peter    bell@pantheon.yale.edu

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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 31 Dec 96 02:40:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 687

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Re: Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS (Nils Andersson)
    Re: Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS (Barton F. Bruce)
    Re: GTE's CyberPOP (Matt Holdrege)
    Re: GTE's CyberPOP (Kim Carraway)
    Re: GTE's CyberPOP (Derek Balling)
    Re: Dialing Procedures and Charging (Re: NPA 570) (Nils Andersson)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (Craig Nordin)
    Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management (Linc Madison)
    Re: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not (Earle Robinson)
    Re: And the New Number is ... 949 (Linc Madison)
    Re: Anti CallerID? (Steve Bunning)
    Re: Anti CallerID? (Brett Frankenberger)

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From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS
Date: 31 Dec 1996 04:36:39 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.681.4@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Eric Friedebach
<aerostar@ccia.com> writes:

> Maybe a more informed TELECOM Digest reader/poster like Mark Cuccia
> can correct me here but was not the 800 service originally designed
> for business use such as customer service/incoming sales? At least
> that was my intention back in 1987. The possibility of a customer
> calling me from a payphone did not figure in.

> Nowadays I also market discount calling cards and 800/888 numbers for 
> home/consumer use. I don't like the thought of my customers having to 
> shell out some extra money if they are using a payphone/COCOT since our 
> marketing efforts have in the past focused on the *free factor* but 
> maybe that's our own fault to start with.

> As this whole subject settles down, I guess the concept (and cost) of 
> using a public telephone to access your own number will be acceptable.

> So goes the free market. 

We had a long debate on this one. The bottom line is that the use of
800/888 has reached 25% of the traffic on payphones, and has
particularly cannibalized the long distance from payphones, the one
area where they make money. So, the FCC agreed (unlike myself, most
posters to this NG abhor the idea) that payphone operators needed to
be reimbursed for 800 calls, one could obviously look at this as
e.g. an equipment rental fee.  (The explosion of 800 is due primarily
to phone company credit cards and easy-access prepaid calling cards,
secondarily to the use of "home" 800 for MCI and AT&T).  The choice
was between having the caller pay a fee and the callee pay a fee. For
various reasons (I suspect that there would have been public outcry at
caller pays, judging from the reactions in this NG), the solution was
to allow the payphone operators to charge the 800 owner.  An 800
number can be programmed to accept or reject a call from a payphone by
the time this is brought online, sometime in 1997 (September, AFAICR).

The fee is set at a flat 35 cents per call. 

Various people have wondered what was "wrong" with the old system. The
reality is that the "old system" with a single MaBell etc, and massive
cross-subsidies, has been dismantled, and long distance is no longer
the cash cow that subsidizes everything else, including (typically
phoneco owned) payphones. Each type of service must now bear its own
costs, and payphones (which must be spun-off from local telcos as
separate accounting units, BTW, so in a sense all payphones will be
COCOTs soon enough!) are no exception.


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: bruce@eisner.decus.org (Barton F. Bruce)
Subject: Re: Free Calls From Payphones/COCOTS
Organization: CentNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:07:48 GMT


In article <telecom16.682.10@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, roy@mchip00.med.
nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:

> Eric Friedebach <aerostar@ccia.com> wrote:

> So, of course, you've got these pay phones, sitting out at
> small airports, getting used a lot.  Unfortunately, 99% of the calls
> don't generate any coins into the coin box, because they are to the
> 800 number.

> So, this past summer, NYNEX decided to start yanking out all the
> "unprofitable" payphones at small airports.  Of course, the phones do
> generate revenue producing calls, they just don't generate coins in
> the box.  The FAA pays for all the 800 calls, via invoice at the end
> of the month on their 800 line.  But, that's not the way the
> accounting is done, so NYNEX views the phones as "unprofitable", and
> pulled them all out.

NYNEX gets VERY WELL compensated for originating 800 calls as well as
all other toll calls regardless of how the billing is done.

If their policy for yanking a pay phone is solely based on cash in the
box, NYNEX is dumber than I think they are.

Nynex also has some credit-card-only phones that show up in hotel
lobbies and in restaurants on the Mass Pike. 800 calls are cardless
and free from these, and their per site maintenance expenses are
doubtlessly lower.

Perhaps someopne simply needs to request these instead.

------------------------------

From: holdrege@eisner.decus.org (Matt Holdrege)
Subject: Re: GTE's CyberPOP
Organization: DECUServe
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 02:54:00 GMT


In article <telecom16.681.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, rice@ttd.teradyne.com
(John Rice) writes:

> Try sending e-mail to cyberpopinfo@telops.gte.sprint.com. gte.com is
> not related to GTE, I don't think. Every GTE e-mail address I've ever
> seen is '@gte.sprint.com' and using nslookup, I see that
>'@telops.gte.sprint.com' is a valid e-mail address.

FYI, GTE.COM is owned by GTE Labs, but they allow other GTE entities
such as Telops to have domains under GTE.COM. Before they allowed
this, GTE employees could only use the Sprint address since they
gatewayed their internal mail systems through an X.400 system at
Sprint.

Today many GTE employees have GTE.COM addresses, but all GTE employees
have access through the Sprint X.400 gateway whether they know it or
not. There is also an "experimental" SMTP gateway to Telops TMAIL
which runs through GTE Labs. But few know about this.

Like many large corporations and the US government, once something
becomes established at GTE, it's hard to make it go away.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 96 7:35:03 -0500
From: Kim Carraway <kim.carraway@telops.gte.com>
Subject: Re: GTE's CyberPOP


For information concerning GTE CYBER-POP try calling GTE Internet
Solutions at 1-800-927-3000 They may be able to help answer any
question you have or direct you to the appropriate person.  Or email
them at webmaster@gte.net 


Kim Carraway kim.carraway@telops.gte.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:30:52 -0500
From: Derek Balling <dredd@megacity.org>
Subject: Re: GTE's CyberPOP


> Try sending e-mail to cyberpopinfo@telops.gte.sprint.com . gte.com is
> not related to GTE, I don't think. Every GTE e-mail address I've ever
> seen is '@gte.sprint.com' and using nslookup, I see that
> '@telops.gte.sprint.com' is a valid e-mail address.

GTE.COM is definitely GTE, since when I used to work for GTE, my
internet address was derek.balling@telops.gte.com.


Derek J. Balling                   | " Every man dies, but not   
Director of Technical Operations   |   every man really lives... "
TEK Interactive Group, Inc.        |             - Mel Gibson
Midwest Internet Exchange, Inc.    |               Braveheart
dredd@mixi.net   |   http://www.megacity.org   |   dredd@megacity.org

------------------------------

From: nilsphone@aol.com (Nils Andersson)
Subject: Re: Dialing Procedures and Charging (Re: NPA 570 For Colorado)
Date: 31 Dec 1996 04:36:40 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com


In article <telecom16.682.1@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Mark J. Cuccia
<mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> writes:

>> True, but I want to make another point. By Bellcore recommendations
>> (i.e. allowing seven digit or 1+ten or 0+ten) you do not need
>> "mandatory 10 digit dialling". It is quite feasible to allow good old
>> seven digits to mean same area code as caller.

> But you have a 'code conflict' and the switch requires a 'time-out' if
> you are going to have permissive seven-digit dialing in an overlay 
> situation.

Not at all. I can see either of two schemes that maximize (each in a
different way) the ease of making a call.

1) The first is to allow seven digits (but the FCC does not like it):

a) xxx-xxxx
b) 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx (including own ac OK)
c) 0-xxx-xxx-xxxx (including own ac OK)

There is no conflict, no braiding,  no timeout, no problem!

2) The other, assuming that the feds stick to their guns (they usually
do), and prohibit seven digit calling, is to allow absence and
presence of the little "1".

a) xxx-xxx-xxxx (including own ac)
b) 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx (for compatiblity with the rest of the country, portable
   devices etc)
c) 0-xxx-xxx-xxxx 

Again, there is no conflict, no braiding, no problem!

The one notion that must be disposed of is the old electromechanical
one that the presence or absence of a "1" has something to do with
billing!


Regards,

Nils Andersson

------------------------------

From: cnordin@vni.net (Craig Nordin)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: 31 Dec 1996 00:22:48 -0500
Organization: Virtual Networks 


lars@anchor.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen) writes:

> Internet routing tables are now well over 30,000 entries, service 

      oops, that is over 45,000 now ...

> providers are refusing to advertise routes to networks whose 
> addresses cannot be aggregated into larger blocks. 


Washington DC Metro                              http://www.vni.net/
Indianapolis Indiana Metro                       http://www.vnii.net/
Quake?  quake.vni.net ctf.quake.vni.net quake.vnii.net ctf.quake.vnii.net
Kali:          kali.vni.net kali.vnii.net kali.wheretorace.com
Virtual Networks Premier Internet Services     mailto:info@vni.net
Jobs - Graphic Arts - Commercial Production -> http://studio.vni.net/jobs/

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: The InterNIC: A Case Study in Bad Database Management
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:18:44 -0800


In article <telecom16.680.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, oldbear@arctos.com (The
Old Bear) wrote:

> PS: Ironic thought: ever wonder why the Internic never seems to screw
> up those dozens of impenetrable interlocking domains and records which
> belong to the great spam-generating sites like BEST.COM and 
> EARTHSTAR.COM?

Excuse me?  BEST.COM is *NOT* a spam-generating site.  I have an
account with that particular ISP, and I can tell you they vigorously
pursue anyone who spams from their system.  Best.com is a legitimate
ISP which actively discourages spammers.  (My only connection to Best
is as a customer, btw.)

I keep tabs on the spam I see, and there was one point where the
Usenet spam I was seeing was about 70% originating from EarthLink, but
they've made major strides in cleaning up their act.  Best.com has
never been a major spam source -- most of the "best.com" spams I've
seen were forged, in fact, and posted from other providers.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:48:37 -0500
From: earle robinson <76004.1762@compuserve.com>
Subject: GSM is GSM is GSM - Not


Kimmo Ketolainen wrote:

> [If anyone's interested, the 900 MHz GH338 is being sold here for
> FIM 2690 (lowest), that's USD 581 or DEM 901. Bundling with a
> contract is prohibited to ensure fair competition and low network
> traffic fees.]

With all due respect, that so-called fair competition only protects
the operators.  In France I can get a gh388 for $170 when signing up
for a service and our call costs are less than what you pay in
finland, 1 franc per minute throughout the country when paying $38 per
month as a fee.  Or, one can get 4 hours included paying $80.

David Clayton wrote:

> Sounds like a good idea, the myriad of bundled contracts on offer here
> in Australia, (mostly to stop carrier "churning" as we have a choice
> of 3 GSM carriers virtually Australia wide), are responible for lots
> of consumer confusion and are the main cause of complaints to our
> industry watchdog.

First of all churning is much rarer with gsm because you are locked
into a year's contract, and you probably have paid some fee to open
the account, too.  So, the 'discount' on the phone is supposed to be
compensated by the revenue earned from you (and those who call your
gsm number) during that year.  Within those 12 months a new generation
of phones will appear, with new features, even lighter in weight (next
year will they only weigh only 10 grammes?).

I don't know the economics of gsm, but I assume the high capital costs
of antennas and the other hardware involved, plus the customer
acquisition costs and retention (mainly after sign-up service) costs
are such that it takes several years for a gsm service to begin making
money.

There seem to be six ways of generating revenue:

1.  Sale of the phone.  In most countries this is not done.  A low
cost is an incentive to sign-up.  Exceptions are Italy where phone
costs are high through cosy cartelization among the operators.

2.  Front-end fee to initialize service.  This is almost pure profit,
though the reseller may get a percentage.

3.  Monthly fees.  If you are away for a month or so this means nice
'breakage' for the operator.  Monthly fees are often set in tandem
with the calling charges: A low monthly fee = high per minute call
charges.

4.  Per minute call charges.  These might be lower when the monthly
fee is higher, as already mentioned.

5.  Per minute charges to call YOU.  Here is where the operators are
really quite sneaky.  I only pay $0.20 per minute to call with one of
my gsm services, but anyone calling me pays $0.75 per minute!  You'll
find this perhaps in the brochures, at the bottom of the last page and
set in 4 point type.  It seems the French operators hope to make their
money through these charges most especially.  I note that the web
pages of gsmmou don't reveal these charges either, publishing only the
per minute costs for outgoing calls. Alas, this is self-serving and
typical of an organization run by the operators.

6.  Various charges, especially roaming in other countries.  Roaming
charges are seldom highlighted in the brochures either.  But, they can
be high.  Here in France we pay relatively little for calls within
this country, while the germans pay high charges (again the operator
cartel, brussels, brussels wherefor art thou, brussels, this is
illegal), but roaming charges in other countries are lower than what
french operators exact from their customers.

Other charges can include: voice mail, sms, directory assistance,
various services such as sending flowers, etc. etc.  The newest french
operator, Bouygues, the first 1800 mhz service, includes voice mail
and free query about to date call charges in the monthly fee.

In summary, the gsm companies are all big boys and they in the
business to make money.  De facto regulation (like the high prices in
germany) or de jure regulation (like the high phone costs mandated by
the Finnish government) only help the gsm companies, not the consumers.
Confusion will always reign in a complex market like gsm.  If one or
more of the operators eventually goes bankrupt, well that's business.
Government's role should be limited to maintaining honesty in
advertising, and forbidding price fixing through cartels.


 -er

------------------------------

From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com (Linc Madison)
Subject: Re: And the New Number is ... 949
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:09:24 -0800


In article <telecom16.682.6@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, psyber@mindspring.com
wrote:

> Mike King wrote:

>> (details of nearly-final proposal for 714/949 split in Orange County, CA)

> Sounds to me that the easiest explanation is that the border runs from
> the coast along Harbor Blvd, turns east along I-405, straddles
> mid-county along state route 55 (Costa Mesa Freeway and Newport
> Freeway), then turns and follows state route 91.

Well, actually, no.  The border you describe does not follow very
close to the proposed split line.  Harbor Blvd as a starting point
would cut off a significant chunk of Newport Beach, which is slated to
be entirely 949, and the line along highways 55 and 91 would put most
of Tustin and parts of Orange and Anaheim into 949.  Most of Tustin
will remain 714 along with all of Orange and Anaheim.  The line you
describe runs mostly south to north and then bends to the east at the
northern end, while the actual line is at more of an angle, closer to
perpendicular to the coastline.

One other oddity I noticed: it looks like John Wayne Airport may be in
the new area code, since it is sandwiched between Costa Mesa and
Irvine.  That would be a trifle confusing, since the airport is
designated SNA for Santa Ana, but most of Santa Ana will remain 714.

I must say I'm very disappointed with the extremely lopsided nature of
this proposed split.  It's ridiculous to have at least a factor of
four difference in projected life expectancy of the offspring.  The
CPUC should have just bitten the political bullet and moved Santa Ana
into the southern half of the split, or gone forward with a three-way
split, or found some other way to split 714 more evenly.  In any case,
the CPUC had damned well better not come back in three or four years
and propose another geographic split of 714.


Linc Madison  *  San Francisco, Calif.  *  Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:52:19 -0500
From: Steve Bunning <acecomm.com!sbunning@acec.com>
Subject: Re: Anti CallerID?


TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: 

> Regarding 'forcing a false caller-id to appear on your box', I would
> have challenged him to do it; to really *do it*. We have had this
> discussion here before a couple of times and a few obscure methods
> were presented by readers which for all intents and purposes are very
> unlikely to be used with any degree of regularity. Generally speaking,
> it does not happen.  PAT]

In the Washington Business section of the December 16 {Washington
Post}, there is an article titled "Intent to Deceive: The Manipulation
of Caller ID."  The article alleges instances of caller ID information
being deliberately and routinely modified by businesses via PBX
originated calls.  At the moment, there is a copy of the article on
the Post's Web Site at the following URL:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1996-12/16/030L-121696-idx.html


Steve Bunning    | ACE*COMM                   | 301 721-3023 (voice)
Product Manager  | 704 Quince Orchard Road    | 301 721-3001 (fax)
TEL*COMM Division| Gaithersburg, MD USA 20878 | sbunning@acecomm.com

------------------------------

From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: Anti CallerID?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 06:00:15 GMT


In article <telecom16.680.7@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Eduardo Kaftanski
<ekaftan@ns.rdc.cl> wrote:

> I have just finished a chat with a local 'cracker' who told me
> he was using an anti CallerID device ...
> Suposedly he can force a false caller id to be logged in my
> boxes.

That depends on knowledge of how caller ID works.  In between the
first and second rings, the switch sends out the Caller ID.  The was
this is sent is as a simplex (i.e. one way) modem signal (1200 baud
Frequency Shift Keying, I believe -- Bell 212?).  The Caller ID box
detects this carrier and demodulates the signal, giving the caller ID
information.

The way a Caller ID box should work is that it should wait for the
first ring, then start listening for a Caller ID data stream, and
record the number.  It should stop listening when (1) It receives a
valid number, (2) The second ring occurs, or (3) The phone is answered.

However, what some caller ID boxes to is: Listen for a Caller ID data
stream (i.e. the appropriate modem carrier) at all times, and if a
signal is detected, record the number.

What this means is that a 'cracker' can call you, wait for you to
answer the call, and then send a caller ID signal (using some equipment
he has that will generate the appropriate data stream -- it's not all
that difficult).  What this means is that the following sequence of
events will occur:

  (1) Your phone will ring once.
  (2) The telco will send the "real" caller ID (or "Private" if the
      cracker dialed *67).
  (3) Your Caller ID unit will display the above.
  (4) Your phone will ring a second time.
  (5) You answer your phone.
  (6) The cracker sends a bogus Caller ID data stream.
  (7) Your box either (a) ignores this data, or (b) accepts this data
      and displays it.

The result is that if (1) you have a box that receives caller ID data
when it shouldn't be, *AND* (2) You don't look at the readout until
after you answer the phone, the cracker can do what he claims to do.
(Note that if your box remembers a certain number of callers, as most
do, you can probably scroll back and get the real number.)

Anyway, your E-Mail address is .cl ... the above applies in the US ...
It may or may not be similar elsewhere.


Brett  (brettf@netcom.com)
Brett Frankenberger

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Inside This Issue:                             Happy New Year, Everyone!

    ISP's Will Get *NO* Refunds (Monty Solomon)
    Fraud Calls on Centrex ISDN PRI (Monty Solomon)
    The Information Age and TELCO Voice Networks (jfmezei)
    900-Number Company Leaves TV Stations, "Psychics" Unpaid (Nigel Allen)
    Arkansas Splits ... Gets 870! (John Cropper)
    Internet by Satellite (Rob Gordon)
    Internet-Based Personal Information Services (Ted Lee)
    Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net (Eric Florack)
    Getting in the Last Word: That's All Folks! (TELECOM Digest Editor)

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 04:09:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: ISP's Will Get *NO* Refunds
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


  Begin forwarded message:

  Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:55:06 -0800 (PST)
  From: Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com>
  Subject: ISP's will get *NO* refunds
  Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting

It now appear that the whole issue of ISP exemption from FCC
Subscriber Line Charges is wrong, wrong, wrong. As I mentioned a month
or so ago it appears that the people who have promoted this idea were
getting the Network Access Charges (around two cents per minute)
confused with the Subscriber Line Charge of $6 per line per
month. ISP's are considered Enhanced Service Providers by the FCC and
are thus exempt from the

NAC but are explicitly required to pay the SLC. Period, end of story.

In researching this whole issue I have discovered, via the ISP's who
assisted me, that most telco people just don't have a clue about these
charges and how or why the NAC is different from the SLC. At one point I
expressed the opinion that the only known ISP to get a refund may have
bamboozled their local telco into refunding money that they shouldn't
have.

Anyway, this whole thing started with some public statements by an
organization called IDEA followed by a SPAM to all ISP's from IDEA.
The evidence so far available publicly makes it appear that IDEA is
lying about ever having collected telco refunds. And even if they did
manage to bamboozle money out of the telco they did not deserve the
refund and will have to pay it back. Here is what someone else
discovered when they dug into IDEA and in particular note what Bell
Atlantic said about refunds to Imagixx.

> It may interest you to know that Shannon Hamra of LDD Net, who is
> active with the AOP Internet Service Provider and Marketing SIGs (you
> may have met her at the AOP conference last October), took the time to
> contact IDEA and pursue them on this issue.  Here's what she found:

> 1)  Though its name includes the word "Association," IDEA is a
> for-profit corporation rather than a non-profit trade or professional
> association.  Their motivation is profit for themselves, not the good
> of the industry or the defense of ISPs.

> 2)  When pressed, IDEA admitted that they have never actually
> collected any money for any ISP.  They do claim to have recovered such
> monies for themselves, though Bell Atlantic has no record of such a
> refund.  At various times, IDEA has made claims to have recovered
> money from Pac Bell and others, but is able to offer no substantiation
> of these claims.

> 3)  When pressed for details of the alleged overcharges, IDEA sent
> Hamra to the CIX web site. The document she was instructed to read
> was, in fact, a draft white paper in response to the Clinton
> Administration's GII (Global Information Infrastructure)/NII (National
> Information Infrastructure) policy draft from last year.  It only
> encourages the White House to seek a continuation of existing
> exemptions from per-minute access charges.  IDEA also sent her to the
> web site of the National Exchange Carrier Association, though that
> site has nothing helpful to offer.


Michael Dillon            Internet & ISP Consulting
Memra Software Inc.       Fax: +1-604-546-3049
http://www.memra.com      E-mail: michael@memra.com

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 04:10:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Fraud Calls on Centrex ISDN PRI
Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM


  Begin forwarded message:

  Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:47:48 -0800 (PST)
  From: Earl Wallace <earlw@walltech.com>
  Subject: Fraud Calls on Centrex ISDN PRI

We are getting bills from PacBell on our Centrex ISDN PRI showing
local, national and international calls originating from our PRI line.
These calls are Voice, not data.  And the caller is a not a modem or
fax, but answering machines, people, etc.  When you look at the bill
it looks like a phone bill for a medium size company so we thought it
might just be a simple PacBell translations problem but they say that
the AMA tapes show the calls coming from us.

The PRI is connected to an Ascend P400T1 and doesn't have any digital
modems so we were wondering if it was possible for the Ascend to make
a fully random Voice call to someone in Japan and hold a 58 minute
conversation with another human being.  Ascend agrees with us that
couldn't happen.  So we are pretty darn certain we are not originating
these calls, now how do we get PacBell to troubleshoot this problem?
As soon as I say the word "ISDN" to PacBell, they fall apart.  They
have been unable to get past the AMA Tapes to see what's going on.  I
wish the AMA Tape would say "Please send the customer a Lexus 400",
but it doesn't.  Bummer :-)

We are either engaged in or will be with AT&T, FBI, FCC, CPUC, our
reps at the Calif State and Sentate, Congressional reps, and others
but are trying not to overheat the situation if there's a way to
convince PacBell with a simple test.  What I would like them to do is
come out to our site and place some equipment on the demarc and see
for themselves if we are generating any of these bogus calls.  These
calls are being made during the week, Mon-Fri, during the hours of
10:00am to 6:00pm.  It works out to be about 9 calls a minute.  They
could stand there and stare at the test equipment for 2 hours and then
go back to the CO and see what the AMA says during that time period.
If the AMA shows calls and the test equipment at the demarc shows
nothing, it would seem to me that PacBell would be satisfied that it's
not being caused by our equipment and maybe they would actually start
doing something to fix the problem.

Does this seem like a logical, valid test?  After all, I'm only trying
to prove the calls are not originating from that line.  Anyone know
what test equipment can do this task, what is it called and where can
I rent it?

Is there a better way to solve this problem?  


TIA,

 -earlw
P.S. - Is it possible to hate any company more than PacBell?

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From: jfmezei <jfmezei@videotron.ca>
Subject: The Information Age and TELCO Voice Networks
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:11:06 -0500
Organization: SPC
Reply-To: nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca


With the advent of 57k modems which no longer work fully across POTS
lines (ISP has digital trunk to the telco to bypass A/D converters),
it seems that we have finally reached the speed limit of the
conventional voice telephone networks.

Even when one removes the A/D converters to get an ISDN line at 64kpbs,
it is still not a very impressive rate compared to what cable companies
can offer (1.5mbps).

While one would never think about a telco going under, I am wondering if
this will not become more and more likely as cable companies start to
steal customers at first for data/fax and then for voice as well.

If the telcos wait too long, by the time they wake up, will they still
have enough strength to convert their huge voice infrastructure
designed to give no more than 64kbps, into something more competitive?

Can telcos afford NOT to act NOW to start to completely rethink their
infrastructure? Can telcos afford do to it now?

Is there any chance that during such a transition from the current
telephone/voice infrastructure to a new one, a single standard would
be adhered to by all north american telcos, or would there be
different companies pushing for their own standards?

Is there any chance that a telephone number may in fact become a TCP
address  (area code+ country = domain name?)

Is there any chance that we will see fibre to the homes offered by
telcos to compete against coax to the homes already installed by the
cable companies?

Is there any chance that wireless high-speed data may happen and steal
the show from both cable and telco?

Have we really reached the limit of the POTS-to-POTS modems at the
speed of 33kbps?

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:43:21 EST
From: Nigel Allen <ndallen@io.org>
Subject: 900-Number Company Leaves TV Stations, "Psychics" Unpaid


The {Montreal Gazette} reports that several television stations that
aired infomercials for a 900-number psychic hotline haven't been
paid. Some low-paid "psychics" also complained they hadn't been paid.

The 900-number company is Integrated Communication Network Inc.  of
Miami, Florida. Calls to the company's psychic hotline were routed
through a switch in Omaha, Nebraska, then connected to one of 2,000
people throughout North America working out of them home as psychics,
the Gazette said. Callers were changed $4.99 a minute.


Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario  
ndallen@io.org  http://www.io.org/~ndallen/

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From: John Cropper <psyber@mindspring.com>
Subject: Arkansas Splits ... Gets 870!
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:03:29 -0500
Organization: MindSpring
Reply-To: psyber@mindspring.com


Most Arkansas media hasn't even moved on this yet but ...

501 Area Code to Split During the Coming Year

Some Arkansas residents will be receiving a new area code next
year. 870 has been announced for residents to the south, and west of
Little Rock.  SBC, the largest of the primary telecommunications
service providers in the state, and the company responsible for
assigning exchanges in the 501 area code, has been studying a plan to
relieve the overburdened 501 area code.

Under the proposed plan, Little Rock, and sections of the northeastern
corner of the state would retain the 501 area code, while the
remainder of the state will move to the 870 area code. No date for the
final split has been announced yet, and SBC will plan informational
meetings sometime after the first of the year.


John Cropper                voice: 888.NPA.NFO2  
LINCS                              609.637.9434  
PO Box 277                  fax:   609.637.9430  
Pennington, NJ  08534-0277                       
mailto:psyber@mindspring.com                     
http://206.112.101.209/jcbt2n/lincs/    

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From: robgordon@usa.net (Rob Gordon)
Subject: Internet by Satellite
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 02:16:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom


INTERNET BY SATELLITE (Repost from Technology Transfer in
International Development)

Friends,

I have developed an interest in the technology of establishing
Internet connections by satellite and I would like to identify others
with similar business interests.

About a year ago, I saw a post that a small computer company in West
Africa had filed with the U.S. Embassy Trade Opportunity Program.
This company wanted to establish itself as an Internet Service
Provider (ISP) and resell connectivity services to its clients.  They
noted that their country's telecommunications industry was being
deregulated and privatized and were looking for a consultant to help
them with planning the service.
 
Although I had no particular experience with this technology, I had
once lived in their country and this struck me as a particularly good
business opportunity.  I wrote this company and found that they were
impressed by my background and seemed sincerely interested in doing
business with me.  The American Embassy said they had good references
and they were apparently well funded.  After several phone
conversations with the company, they asked if I could meet them in Las
Vegas (for last year's Comdex computer exposition) where we would
finalize my consulting contract and look for other technical partners.

I began organizing some research on this by calling several firms who
specialized in internet hardware and software.  The problem was that
this country had a very poor telecommunications infrastructure and
these companies only knew how to connect to existing systems.  I then
called several of the major telecommunications firms and found that
they also were not very helpful.  These multinational firms were used
to doing business with government telecommunications authorities
(PTTs) and were not open to doing business with any small companies.
The government's PTT, in turn, controlled all land lines and was not
open to doing business with anyone other than large telecommunications
firms. 

I came to the conclusion that a satellite link would probably be the
only way to establish a new independent ISP in this developing
country.  I identified several firms who supply these systems using a
turn key approach and began to get a rough idea of the costs and
technologies involved.  My customer agreed with this approach and we
decided to continue this line of research when we met at Comdex.

Just two days before I was to leave for Las Vegas, the military
dictatorship in this country executed a famous and respected author.
As a result, the American Embassy became very stingy with visas and my
customer was forced to cancel the trip to the United States. They
called and said that they considered this to only be a temporary
setback and still wanted to do business with me.  I decided to go to
Comdex anyway to identify firms with this capability and to learn
enough about the technology to initiate this project with customer
investment funds.

I made the trip to Comdex and was shocked that, at this showcase of
advanced American technology, I could find almost no one who even
understood what I was trying to accomplish.  Technology firms
apparently are not oriented to doing business in countries where there
is no technology infrastructure.  After two days of talking to every
large computer and networking firm, I was ready to give up.  Finally,
just a few hours before I had to leave, I met a manager from Hughes
Network Systems who was able to provide a conceptually detailed sketch
of how to link a VSAT station with customer sites using web servers,
comm servers, routers, modems, etc.

I took this information home and began working on a technical proposal
for my customer.  I then realized I was still missing an important
piece of the puzzle.  Although I now had a pretty good idea of how to
set up an internet satellite downlink in Africa I didn't know what to
hook it up to.  (I later learned that this is called "the last mile
problem").  I did some more research and came up with a point to point
breakdown of all the components needed to establish a new ISP along
with an estimate of costs (using this approach, you wouldn't be forced
to do business with a turn key vendor but could put each individual
component out to bid).  I faxed this to my customer and eagarly
awaited the start of my consulting contract.

To make a long story short, the deal never happened.  It became more
difficult to communicate with this customer and the political
situation in the country seemed to be disintegrating.  There was talk
of difficulties with the national telecommunications company.  I never
found out exactly what happened but after several unreturned phone
calls and faxes, I was forced to call it quits with this particular
customer.

I learned alot from this experience and I would still like to work
with this technology.  If you are reading this message, you obviously
have access to the Internet, but as we all know, many remote areas of
the world do not.  I think that satellite technology will be the only
way to deliver the information revolution to millions of people in the
developing world where there is a poor telecommunications infrastructure.  

I would be very interested in learning if there are other companies or
individuals who are considering working with this technology.  If
possible, I would like to share information on potential customers,
technical approaches, regulatory issues, investment strategies and any
other issues involving establishing new ISPs in the developing world.


Thank you.

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From: tmplee@MR.Net (Ted Lee)
Subject: Internet-Based Personal Information Services
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:35:07 -0600
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network (MRNet)


The last few issues of the RISKS Digest have had a couple of messages
pointing out the various directory (white pages, yellow pages, e-mail
lists, etc) becoming available on the net/web and rightfully pointing
out that people should be aware of how this ought to change their
expectations of privacy (regardless of what one feels about the
subject.)  Does anyone know how the white pages (one of which, by the
way, has a national reverse-number-lookup) databases in those services
are compiled?  The reason I ask is that I was surprised to find a
listing for my wife in at least one, but not all, of them and yet she
is *not* listed (either separately or as part of my entry) in either
our metropolitan (Bell) directory or in the local (GTE or something
community directory).  I thought perhaps someone here might know.


Dr. Theodore M.P. Lee       Consultant in Computer Security
PO Box 1718                 tmplee@MR.Net             
Minnetonka, MN 55345        612-934-4532

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 07:38:20 PST
From: Eric_Florack@xn.xerox.com (Florack,Eric)
Subject: Re: How Business Almost Derailed the Net


In response to;rh120@columbia.edu (Ronda Hauben) in conversation with
Nathan Newman <newman@garnet.berkeley.edu>, re: How Business Almost
Derailed the Net:

Ronda, I've been holding off on commenting on this exchange for around 
a month, now, but your comments, for some reason, pushed me over the 
edge, as it were. I'm under pressure of time, (meeting in a half-hour) 
so these comments may come off somewhat disjointed. Sorry about that.

> It is helpful that this article demonstrates that the mythology of so
> called "competition" is just a veneer for the actuality of unregulated
> conglomerates and monopolies trying to impose their view of the world
> and their products on an uncooperative public.

Huh? Come again?  The public buys things of their own will. Do you
suppose someone to be holding a gun to their collective heads, saying
'Buy this or else?'

> But the more important fact that this all brings to light is that the
> Internet was created as a scientific, educational resource.  As such
> it made possible the public participation needed to develop technology. 
> I have begun to document this in a new piece of work I am doing
> applying Jurgen Habermas's notion of the need for a reemergence of the
> public sphere to the development of Usenet and the early ARPANET
> mailing lists.

Excellent. Someone who is actually researching their topic.

While you're there, Rhonda, you might want to look into the federall 
laws and regulations that would have prevented the private sector from 
constructing anything resembling the net of today. Any one of the 
regulars in this digest will be able to spout at length on that 
subject.  Particulalry, look into the artificial propping up of AT&T, 
which basicly prevented any other firm than AT&T doing anything in the 
way of long lines ... data or otherwise.. The only reason government 
was able to set this up as a " scientific, educational resource" is 
because under that guise, they were not subject to the laws that the 
private sector was. If a private sector company had attempted what the 
government did, they'd have been in direct violation of several laws. 

I suggest in the strongest possible terms that had the burden of 
federal regulations been lifted, the Internet  would be at least 10 
years ahead of it's current state, and, since governmental 
over-regulation in large part has caused our under-development in 
phone capacity ... we'd not be concerned about telephone capacity 
problems as a result of internet use,  either, because far more would 
have been built.

>> Gingrich promoting decentralization of economic decision-making to
>> local regions, there has been a steady stream of conservative analysis
>> making the case that new technology has made government's role,
>> especially the federal government's role, irrelevant and even
>> dangerous to the healthy functioning of the economy.

> The development of new technology requires that government play
> its crucial role.

> My research about Usenet and the ARPANET mailing lists in the 1981-2
> period (Usenet was formed in 1979 so this is fairly early in its
> development) shows that there were important debates and discussions
> on both early Usenet and on the ARPANET mailing lists carried on
> Usenet during this period which examined the different views of
> technology that the commercial world was promoting and that the
> scientific and technical community needed.

I agree, government has a crucial role to play. The largest part of
that role is staying out of the way. Fact is, government cannot
create, only regulate, retard, slow down, or halt something
altogether. Government needs other entities to create. Therefore, how
can government take the leading role in the creation of anything but
regulation, and taxing, ie; slowing down, the progress of anything?

Look, you're quite right, so far as you go. Problem is, you're not 
telling the whole story. Such discussions occurred there, simply 
because given the over regulation, the overly large role government 
was playing in the stunting of technological growth of this country, 
(and thereby the world) it was the only place where such discussions 
COULD occur ...

Hmmm ...

Other than, perhaps the technical echoes on FIDO, GT, RYME, and so on.  

Which brings to mind a side-point; A lot of the technical advances we
take for granted came from PRIVATE sources, such as private BBS's.
Consider the BBS Ward Christiansen ran in Chicago just a few years
ago. (Has it been so long?) Ward, you may recall, was the individual
who implimented Xmodem, the protocol that just about all EC serial
protos are based on. And let's recall the stink the regulators put up
about the private BBS's and their use of the 'public' network, shall
we?  And why was that stink put up? Because it was out of the
government's control, and the government didn't like it.  Can you say,
"Modem Tax"? Remember?

Telco, who knew their meal-ticket was government provided, chimed in,
too, claiming they were being shorted, and their capcity is limited
 ... whicle to this day, they quietly have been selling line after line
under special deals specificly for modem use ... and in many cases,
Telcos are ISP's themselves ... which exposes the screams of
capacity problems for the lies they are ... 

The issue, is thus exposed as Government's need for control, regardless 
of the outcome of that control.

Do not mistake me, here. I do not intend to imply that there were not
many dedicated people involved in the government-based effort.You are
correct in giving them the credit they deserve.  But can you honestly
say that the private sector, once freed, would not have come up with a
system that was either similar or better than what we have now? I
think they would. Indeed; I *know* they would. Witness; it was only
when the private sector was turned loose on the net that it began to
really take off.

> For example, on the workstation mailing list FA.works there was a
> discussion of whether Xerox should offer a programming language with
> its new workstation. There was resistance from Xerox for offering a
> programming language as that was in conflict with the commercial
> control of its product, while those on the mailing list who were to be
> the users of the workstation discussed how the lack of a programming
> language would make the workstation useless to them. That they would
> need to be able to customize their uses of the workstation and not
> having a programming language would make their work impossible.

> Thru this kind of discussion and debate Xerox was won to recognize
> the need to offer a programming language.

Are you speaking of the 6085?  Look at my address. I happen to know
something of that particular unit.

I will suggest to you that the processes involved with the design of
ANY system is not unlike a governmental process.  Somewhat high-handed
in nature, and thereby less effective than it might be. Now, the 6085
was a hell of a nice unit. Certainly ahead of it's time. All of the
things we take for granted in the GUI's of today, Viewpoint had in the
middle 70's, in 4 megs /tops/ of RAM and in under 40 megs of drive
space, plus seemless intergal networking..  But it suffered, even
during it's heyday, from a prorietary structure, and OS, that even
(what I cansider to be) a fairly decent programming language couldn't
make sync with the remainder of the world. There's one of them
downstairs, in the Museum. To a lesser degree, I suspect, Apple, who
basicly swiped the Look and feel of the 8000 and 6085 series
workstations for their OS, suffers from the same problem.

But, over time, (when law allows it) the public tends to make use of
the best ideas, and combine them with other ideas. Witness the
operating system I'm willing to bet you're running: WIndows ... the
look and feel of which also based largely on the VIEWPOINT OS.

The point here being that these choices are made over time by the
public, when the government stays out of the way.  Would we have done
OK, if government had mandated that the VP OS as the way to go?
Sure. And, of course it would certainly have made my wallet somewhat
fatter. (grin) But would we be as well off? I must be fair and say, I
don't think so. Others were free to develop and market their own
systems, some of which were better in the overall.  As a result we now
see Xerox using Microsoft's OS, as opposed to the other way around.

Similarly, If government, instead of being more directly involved in
development of the internet, had simply lowered the legal barriiers to
private concerns to create their own networks, we'd have had a number
of systems from which to choose, and, (might I say it) we'd have had a
better one when the last one was left standing ... without the
designed-in frailties that the one we have now contains.

> This is helpfully pointed out in Habermas's work. He shows how in the
> development of a political system there is a need to have debate and
> discussion over crucial issues and that this is what happened in the
> development of our current political forms in England, Germany and
> France. (And others have pointed out how this was true as well in the
> early days of the U.S.)

The debate and discussion over technology is, in the ultimate sense,
handled at the cash register. Again, look at the OS's in the grave, or
nearly so. VIEWPOINT, for all of it's qualities, is one such. Each
person making their own choices. For all the screaming about
Microsoft, for example, the bottom line is (pun intended) that
Microsoft's operationg systems are more prevelent than those of APPLE,
or, UNIX. The latter two clearly have their place, of course
 ... (Though not much longer for Apple, I think.)

> However, Habermas shows how public relations firms have been hired
> by big corporate entities to put their narrow self interest out
> to the public as the public interest.

Yes, indeed. The most recent election cycle is proof of that. Or is
it?  You under-estimate the longer term thinking ability, I think, of
Americans.

> The public debate and discussion over public issues is replaced
> by public relations ads from corporate entities who propose their
> ads as the news.

Again, I point at the Presdential elections most recent, as an
interesting parallel.  The heavy push by the PR firms managed to get a
highly questionable person re-elected.  Blip!

And yet the longer term voting patterns and trends, years in building, 
have continued in Congress, and on the local level.

Understand what I mean here. You're right, in the shorter term.  But
in the longer term, the PR firm victories are short lived, in reality. 
Because I give the public credit for being able to see the better
path, eventually, (given the chance to make their own choices) people
see through the nonsense.

Bottom line: Yes, government provided the base for what we now know as
the Internet.  But the private sector, given the chance by government,
(by means of eliminating legal prohibitions, would have provided far
better.


Regards for the new year to all of you.

/E

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From: TELECO Digest Editor <ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: Getting in the Last Word: That's All, Folks!
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:30:00 EST


So another year and another volume of your favorite Digest (or at
least my favorite Digest) comes to an end. For the next few days
I am going to be very busy updating the indexes and loading the
archives with many new files, etc.  Expect to see the Digest resume
about the first of next week -- maybe January 5-6 -- with the
start of volume 17.

I will have a couple special mailings for you in the meantime
however. Mark Cuccia has sent along several more files of historical
interest, and they are quite large. Watch for them to arrive in 
your email soon.

As a closing note for this year and perhaps an opening note for
1997, a replay of "The Day the Bell System Died" is in order.
This originally appeared in TELECOM Digest in July, 1983, when the
Digest was two years old and the divestiture of AT&T was well
underway. Readers who have been around for a few years have seen
this here before; I hope new readers will enjoy it also.


  Date: Tuesday, 12-Jul-83 01:18:19-PDT
  From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM>
  Subject: "The Day Bell System Died"
  To: TELECOM@ECLB

Greetings.  With the massive changes now taking place in the
telecommunications industry, we're all being inundated with seemingly
endless news items and points of information regarding the various
effects now beginning to take place.  However, one important element
has been missing: a song!  Since the great Tom Lehrer has retired from
the composing world, I will now attempt to fill this void with my own
light-hearted, non-serious look at a possible future of
telecommunications.  This work is entirely satirical, and none of its
lyrics are meant to be interpreted in a non-satirical manner.  The
song should be sung to the tune of Don Mclean's classic "American
Pie".  I call my version "The Day Bell System Died"...

 --Lauren--

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		   *==================================*
		   * Notice: This is a satirical work *
		   *==================================*
      

	                "The Day Bell System Died"         

              Lyrics Copyright (C) 1983 by Lauren Weinstein   
		                                           	
     	             (To the tune of "American Pie")      
		   
		     (With apologies to Don McLean)
   

  ARPA: vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM
  UUCP: {decvax, ihnp4, harpo, ucbvax!lbl-csam, randvax}!vortex!lauren

**************************************************************************

Long, long, time ago,
I can still remember,
When the local calls were "free".
And I knew if I paid my bill,
And never wished them any ill,
That the phone company would let me be...

But Uncle Sam said he knew better,
Split 'em up, for all and ever!
We'll foster competition:
It's good capital-ism!

I can't remember if I cried,
When my phone bill first tripled in size.
But something touched me deep inside,
The day... Bell System... died.

And we were singing...

Bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

Is your office Step by Step,
Or have you gotten some Crossbar yet?
Everybody used to ask...
Oh, is TSPS coming soon?
IDDD will be a boon!
And, I hope to get a Touch-Tone phone, real soon...

The color phones are really neat,
And direct dialing can't be beat!
My area code is "low":
The prestige way to go!

Oh, they just raised phone booths to a dime!
Well, I suppose it's about time.
I remember how the payphones chimed,
The day... Bell System... died.

And we were singing...

Bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

Back then we were all at one rate,
Phone installs didn't cause debate,
About who'd put which wire where...
Installers came right out to you,
No "phone stores" with their ballyhoo,
And 411 was free, seemed very fair!

But FCC wanted it seems,
To let others skim long-distance creams,
No matter 'bout the locals,
They're mostly all just yokels!

And so one day it came to pass,
That the great Bell System did collapse,
In rubble now, we all do mass,
The day... Bell System... died.

So bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

I drove on out to Murray Hill,
To see Bell Labs, some time to kill,
But the sign there said the Labs were gone.
I went back to my old CO,
Where I'd had my phone lines, years ago,
But it was empty, dark, and ever so forlorn...

No relays pulsed,
No data crooned,
No MF tones did play their tunes,
There wasn't a word spoken,
All carrier paths were broken...

And so that's how it all occurred,
Microwave horns just nests for birds,
Everything became so absurd,
The day... Bell System... died.

So bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?
Ma Bell why did you have to die?

We were singing:

Bye, bye, Ma Bell, why did you die?
We get static from Sprint and echo from MCI,
"Our local calls have us in hock!" we all cry.
Oh Ma Bell why did you have to die?

<End>

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And that was back in 1983 ... think of how far things have come
since then. Lauren is a charter subscriber to this mailing list;
he was on the list on opening day in August, 1981 and he remains
a regular participant.

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