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Re: Public Wants Court to Okay Wiretaps


Michael Chance (mchance@swbell.net)
Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:39:29 GMT

In article <telecom25.12.10@telecom-digest.org>, pae@dim.com says:

> On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:20:21 -0600, Katherine Shrader <ap@telecom-digest.org>
> wrote:

>> By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer

>> A majority of Americans want the Bush administration to get court
>> approval before eavesdropping on people inside the United States, even
>> if those calls might involve suspected terrorists, an AP-Ipsos poll
>> shows.

> And how many citizens polled replied that they had failed to inform
> themselves sufficiently in order to opine on the question?

Plus, it turns out that Ipsos, the polling firm who conducted the
poll, over-sampled Democrats (52%) and under-sampled Republicans
(40%), which dramatically skewed the results:

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/client/act_dsp_pdf.cfm?name=mr060106-3topline.pdf&id=2928

> Most of the media articles I've read about this speak little about the
> fact and precedent. Two that did speak of such things are:

> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007703

> Which was published 4 days after the NYT article/excerpts from the
> book and

> http://www.opinionjournal.com/weekend/hottopic/?id=110007783

> Which explains why warrants are often problematic.

And the NY Times own ombudsman has been unable to get answers from
either the editor or the publisher about the timing of the publishing
of the article.

> The ACLU did their damndest to muddle the issue with the full-page ad
> they took out in the 12/29/2005 issue of the New York Times:

> http://www.aclu.org/images/bushnixonwiretappingnytadsmall122905.jpg

> There is no comparison between Nixon's wiretaps and the NSA wiretaps
> being discussed here. Shame on that organization to try to make such a
> link.

And no mention that Hoover's FBI, with the approval of JFK, RFK and LBJ
committed far worse violations of the wiretapping laws in going after
the various leaders and organizations of the civil rights movement.

> I fondly wish that more Americans would take the time to educate
> themselves on this issue.

Here, here!

> --phil

Michael Chance

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