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Re: Visitors Risk Being Shot in Florida

David B. Horvath, CCP (
Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:10:56 -0400

PAT -- As usual, please mung my email address; showing real name is

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:31:16 -0700, PAT wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well no one I know ever accused Florida
> legislators of being classmates in competition with Albert Einstein.
> Yes, that is a new law in Florida. You may also recall that a few years
> ago, there was an instance of some tourists from Germany getting their
> rental car in Florida car-jacked, then they, themselves got shot
> dead. There was a big stink about that case also, and the German
> newspapers played it up. Probably the French newspapers (AFP) wanted
> make French people aware of this new law in Florida also. PAT]

While I might agree or disagree with you about the average IQ in the
state govenment of Florida (depending on whether I was pro or anti
Bush), they have passed some innovative laws regarding self-defense.

They were one of the first states to pass a "shall-issue" concealed
firearm permit law. Many states had concealed permit laws before but
they were often at the whim of the issuing body (i.e., if you were
friends with the mayor, you got one).

Vermont has always allowed concealed carry (without permit) and most
states have "open carry" laws (you can carry a gun so long as it is

After Florida got "shall-issue", a decent (10-20) percentage of the
law-abiding population went through the process and got permits. The
criminals quickly learned that they were risking their own lives
trying to carjack or mug Florida residents. They looked for the next
soft target which was tourists. Tourists are easy to identify by the
stickers on their rental cars.

Florida enacted a law forcing removal of the rental-car company
stickers. They also now issue non-resident conceal carry permits as
well as recognizing the permits issued by a number of other states.

- David

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