Message-ID: <20211003184054.563AE29BAE46@ary.qy>
Date: 3 Oct 2021 14:40:53 -0400
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Can I send a FAX over a voip line?
It appears that Bill Horne
<telecomdigestsubmissions@remove-this.remove-this.telecom-digest.org> said:
>Is VoIP capable or carrying FAX calls? Is there any requirement that
>VoIP providers such as Callcentric support such a capability?
Why are you asking us? They have a detailed FAQ on this very question:
https://www.callcentric.com/faq/30#205
(Short answer, yes, but read the whole thing.)
R's,
John
Message-ID: <20211003185146.D573529BB14B@ary.qy>
Date: 3 Oct 2021 14:51:45 -0400
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Are you using an online fax service?
It appears that Bill Horne
<telecomdigestsubmissions@remove-this.remove-this.telecom-digest.org> said:
>I think there are services which will carry a message from either email
>or a web page to a FAX machine which is connected to the PSTN, vice versa.
Callcentric handles incoming faxes; set up a call treatment to route
calls to their fax service. It works fine, can email you the fax.
For outgoing faxes I've used faxzero which puts an ad on the coversheet
and sends limited quantities of fax for free, you upload a PDF and tell
them where to send it. It's worked for me the few times a doctor
demanded a fax. (Needless to say, when I got there, her system had
turned the fax back into a lower quality version of my original PDF.)
eFax used to offer a free limited fax->email service. I don't see any
way to sign up for it any more, but I still get the occasional junk fax
to an old eFax account.
R's,
John
Message-ID: <sjct0b$oim$1@reader1.panix.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2021 18:32:43 -0000
From: "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Are you using an online fax service?
In <d5bc04f5-b012-1bd7-d8a6-c10b5440aad2@billhorne.com> Bill Horne
<telecomdigestsubmissions@remove-this.remove-this.telecom-digest.org> writes:
>I think there are services which will carry a message from either email
>or a web page to a FAX machine which is connected to the PSTN, vice versa.
>If you have used such a service, please post your remarks about it: the
>service you used, what it cost, how well (or poorly) it worked, the
>costs, and anything else a neophyte would need to know.
>Thank you for your help.
My LSW is a professional in flyover country, Michigan. Amazingly
enough our area was served by both the entrenched, formerly
a Bell Telephone group, and also a CLEC.
(LSW = Long Suffering Wife)
We used the CLEC.
I noticed they offered an e-fax service and we signed up
for it. We LOVE it.
It's something like $5/month with NO additional charge
for incoming and... typically $0.25 for some of the
outgoing. But read on.
Incoming are both stored on their server and can be
accessed via web page. But, and this is a BIG BUT,
they can also be e-mailed out to you as a PDF.
In our case, since we control our Internet domain,
that one e-mail gets resent to a half dozen of
our addresses, including our phones, so whoever's
first checks it.
Another advantage to this for our purposes is that
if multiple people send her faxen, there's no busy signal.
Outgoing is a bit trickier and operates through
their web interface. You pull it up and, if it's
just a quic message, fill in the blanks on
the cover sheet.
If it's a (loosely speaking) real document, you
have to upload it (pretty straightforward) via
the web page, add the phone number, etc.
Company is Winntel, based in Winn, Michigan.
e-mail: info@winntel.com
phone: (866) 820-3266
No conflicts of interest or connections aside
from being very satisfied customers.
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Message-ID: <76500fc9-b791-48a1-1435-1beaba7f5585@att.net>
Date: 3 Oct 2021 11:47:49 -0700
From: "John David Galt" <jdgalt@att.net>
Subject: Re: Can I send a FAX over a voip line?
On 10/03/2021 07:17 AM, Bill Horne wrote:
> Here's a question that I hope T-D readers can help me with.
>
> I have a vague memory of some requirement that VoIP phone lines support
> FAX transmission. I'd like that to be true, but before I go to the
> effort of getting my VoIP->POTS adapter to work with Callcentric, I'd
> appreciate your help.
>
> Is VoIP capable or carrying FAX calls? Is there any requirement that
> VoIP providers such as Callcentric support such a capability?
I can't speak to telecom standards, but what I see in the marketplace
is that most end users regard fax machines as obsolete. Accountants
and attorneys seem to be about the last people who use or maintain
them.
In your shoes (dealing with a doctor who doesn't have one) I would ask
his office staff what method they use to send or receive confidential
documents, because it seems unlikely they will change their procedures
to accommodate a small number of people with fax machines. But if
they are open to change, I would suggest to them either a fax-to-web-
mail service (myfax.com, efax.com, faxzero.com) or an encrypted email
service such as protonmail.com (which uses Gnu Privacy Guard
(gnupg.org) so that the end user doesn't need to learn to set it up
for himself).
