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The Telecom Digest for Mon, 25 Mar 2019
Volume 38 : Issue 84 : "text" format

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Payson, AZ: Washington officials say Fossil Creek rescues of "Utmost Importance"Bill Horne
Re: 5G concernsJohn Levine
Re: AT&T and Comcast say they've hit new milestone in fight against robocallsHAncock4
Re: Verizon Confirms That Yes, 5G Will Cost You Extra HAncock4
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20190322181213.GA7702@telecom.csail.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 18:12:13 +0000 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> Subject: Payson, AZ: Washington officials say Fossil Creek rescues of "Utmost Importance" By Gary Morris Well, gee. They wrote a letter. That's something. After several years of nagging and repeated front-page stories in the Roundup, the U.S. Department of Agriculture has written Pine-Strawberry Fire Chief Gary Morris a letter expressing concern about access to Fossil Creek for rescuers and cable companies. https://www.paysonroundup.com/news/local/washington-officials-say-fossil-creek-rescues-of-utmost-importance/article_b6285849-b916-5f34-864a-ed07838f1b31.html -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my email address to write to me directly) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20190323171046.2A450201070E8E@ary.qy> Date: 23 Mar 2019 13:10:45 -0400 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: 5G concerns In article <96E5EBCC-DE09-40DF-A74D-F9D89C738C48@jt-mj.net> you write: >[The following reports note] significant effects on the development >and reproduction of birds, insects, and other organisms that could >have disastrous effects on our fragile ecosystems. > >A lot of the 'gloom and doom' comes from questionable sources; has any >responsible group [not in the clutches of the carriers] weighed in on >this within the past year? The physics make this all pretty unlikely. Conventional cell towers transmit many orders of magnitude less power than broadcast and public service stations that nobody worries about, and 5G microcells will be smaller and lower power still. One of the more ironic aspects of the anti-cell-tower crowd is that the more towers you have, the smaller the cells are and the less power needed both at the tower and at the handset. So by limiting the numbers of towers, they increase the amount of RF raditation that mobile phone users are exposed to. Since the power decreases with the square or cube of the distance from the transmitter, if there are any effects they will be a lot more from a phone held 5mm from your brain than from towers a thousand meters. Handset power is what you should care about. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8cb863a8-237f-47a8-a1a0-87967babc51f@googlegroups.com> Date: 23 Mar 2019 12:34:48 -0700 From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: AT&T and Comcast say they've hit new milestone in fight against robocalls On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-4, Bill Horne wrote: > I think that the responsibility for verify the accuracy of information > which customers pay for should belong to the FCC. In my opinion, there should be strict rules about the validity of any and all calls offered to the telephone networks. No calls should be admitted if the submitting carrier fails to control falsification or spam robocalls, or other offenses. However, there are lots of interests that would oppose such measures and they have powerful lobbyists. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <60c8f87e-e5fe-4650-b567-189dabac16c5@googlegroups.com> Date: 23 Mar 2019 12:38:26 -0700 From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: Verizon Confirms That Yes, 5G Will Cost You Extra On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 12:49:35 PM UTC-4, Bill Horne wrote: > Throughout all of the hype, carriers have been really hesitant to > discuss what's perhaps the most important question: how much will 5G > cost? After all, next-generation connectivity is only going to help > boost broadband competition if it's both ubiquitous and affordable, > two things the US wireless industry has never really been known > for. And now that the carrier lobbyists have effectively convinced the > Pai FCC to neuter itself, that question has only become more > important. Back in the 1950s, Bell and the independents were busy converting the remaining manual exchanges to dial. It was very expensive to do so. Typically, following a conversion the phone company would raise rates. While a town generally welcomed the coming of dial, they most certainly did not welcome the rate increases. Some towns fought back, filing legal petitions to block the increase. ------------------------------ ********************************************* End of telecom Digest Mon, 25 Mar 2019

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