TELECOM Digest     Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:19:00 EST    Volume 24 : Issue 581

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Internet Fosters Political Movements (Ron Fournier)
    Japan's TBS, Index Form Joint Venture on Internet (Reuters News Wire)
    Mother Decides to Fight the Music Recording Industry (Jim Fitzgerald)
    NY Times News Feed (John Stahl)
    Re: NY Times News Feed (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones? (John Levine)
    Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones? (DevilsPGD)
    Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones (Anthony Bellanga)
    Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones? (NOTvalid@Queensbridge.us)
    Re: Physically Protecting The Local Loop Network? (Al Gillis)
    Last Laugh! Re: Email from Florida AG (Harold Hallikainen)

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From: Ron Fournier <ap@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: Internet Fosters Local Political Movements
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:06:09 -0600


By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer

Frustrated by government and empowered by technology, Americans are
filling needs and fighting causes through grass-roots organizations
they built themselves -- some sophisticated, others quaintly ad
hoc. This is the era of people-driven politics. And politicians are
understandably furious in many cases.

 From a homemaker-turned-kingmaker in Pittsburgh to dog owners in New
York to a "gym rat" here in southwest Florida, people are using the
Internet to do what politicians can't -- or won't -- do.

This is their story, but it's also an American story because ordinary
folks are doing the extraordinary to find people with similar
interests, organize them and create causes and connections.

"People are just beginning to realize how much power they have," said
Chris Kofinis, a Democratic consultant who specializes in grass-roots
organizing via the Internet.

"At a time when we are craving community and meaning in our lives,
people are using these technologies to find others with the same
complaints and organize them," he said. "They don't have to just sit
in a coffee shop and gripe about politics. They can change politics."

Mary Shull changed her life, if not politics.

A lonely and frustrated liberal, the stay-at-home mother of two joined
the liberal online group MoveOn.org in 2004. Working from home, the
Pittsburgh woman helped round up votes for presidential candidate John
Kerry and other Democrats. On Election Day, Kerry prevailed in
Pennsylvania, but failed to unseat President Bush.

"I was upset with Kerry's loss, but what really devastated me was the
loss of that sense of empowerment in my life, this sense of
engagement, that I got with MoveOn," she said.

Shull, 31, was brimming with ideas for liberal causes, but MoveOn had
virtually shut down after the election and the Democratic Party was
catatonic. So she took matters in her own hands, e-mailing the 1,500
contacts she had made through MoveOn and asking if they wanted to keep
busy.

Their first meeting drew 85 people. They got involved in local races,
and Shull tended to her e-mail list -- each name coded with the
person's pet issue.

"This wasn't about a huge agenda. This was people gathering together
and working with each other on things that interested them," she
said. "It was just a way for people to connect with each other."

Politicians took notice. When former Rep. Joe Hoeffel decided he might
want to run for lieutenant governor, he called Shull and asked for her
support.

"Ten years ago, somebody like Mary would be as interested as she is in
politics, but her circle of influence would not have extended beyond her
home or block or even voting precinct," said Hoeffel, a Democrat who gave up
his House seat in 2004 for an unsuccessful Senate bid.

"Now, she's got 1,500 other self-motivated and influential people at
her fingertips, and carries as much clout as half the people I've been
calling."

MoveOn, founded in 1997 to fend off President Clinton's impeachment,
raised $60 million for liberal causes in 2004. The group put its
organizing muscle behind Cindy Sheehan last summer and helped make the
"Peace Mom" a symbol of the anti-war movement.

Political activist Tom Hayden believes that the anti-war movement in
the 1960s, which he helped organize, could have gained steam sooner
had the Internet existed.

"Movements happen so much faster today," he said.

And they come in all shapes and sizes.

                        -----------------

Shannon Sullivan's 9-year-old son wanted to know why Mayor James
E. West used a city computer to solicit gay men over the Internet, and
why nobody was doing anything about it.

"He's the mayor," Sullivan replied.

"Mom, you better do something."

So she did. A single mother with a high school education and no
political experience, Sullivan launched a recall campaign that used an
Internet site to organize rallies and media events. Turns out there
were thousands of other people in Spokane, Wash., who wondered why
nobody was doing anything about West.

"I was mad at people for not doing anything. I was mad at the system
and I was mad at James West," she said after her campaign succeeded in
convincing voters and the mayor was recalled. "I'm not so mad
anymore. Its not gay people in politics or authority, that's fine with
me and there should be more of them. It's James West who had to go."

                 =======================

Roberta Bailey likes Pugs -- the jowly, wrinkly faced breed of dog she
keeps as a pet. She also likes punk rock and people. With the help of
the Internet, the Manhattan photographer found a way to combine her
interests: She organized a group of Pug owners who fought to save a
legendary punk venue.

"I got off my butt and did something cool," she said.

Using the Meetup.com Web site, Bailey organized a "Million Pug March"
in Washington Square Park to show support for the venerable club
CBGB. It's as close to politics as she has ever come.

"Who knows what me and the Pugs can do to change the world some day,"
she said, giggling.

Howard Dean used Meetup.com in 2003 to organize anti-war activists
behind his Democratic presidential campaign. Though his candidacy
petered out, the Web site continued to grow.

Nearly 2 million people log into the site to find others with similar
interests. There are more than 4,000 topics -- everything from witches
and pagans to wine enthusiasts, working moms and divorced dads.

"People really get a certain high about connecting with other human
beings," said Scott Heiferman, the site's co-founder. "Because we live
in such an isolated culture, when people come together with other
like-minded people, there is a sense of, 'Let's organize to do
something.'"

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Matt Margolis got tired of hearing about the rising influence of
liberal blogs so he scrolled the Internet for advice on how to start
an online diary of his own. He enlisted writers. He got help with
designing a home page. He found somebody who knew how to write
computer coding.

Blogsforbush.com was born.

"It took a community of people to get me going," said the 25-year-old
architecture student from Boston. By the end of the 2004 election, he
had a nearly 1,500 other bloggers posted on his site -- an army of
Bush backers who donated time and money to his campaign and wrote
letters to the editor on the president's behalf.

                ==============================

Dave Renzella is a fitness instructor at Omni gym in Fort Myers,
Fla. In his spare time, he plugs into the MoveOn Web site to get the
e-mail addresses of fellow liberals and tries to organize them.

"I'm not an activist at heart. I'm a gym rat," he said, "but the
Internet makes it easy to combine an interest in people with an
interest in politics."

                ================================

Eli Pariser, the 25-year-old executive director of MoveOn Political
Action, said the people-driven trend is a good thing for democracy, a
chance to "shift the balance of power from established interests that
can raise of lot of money and lobby special interests to a bunch of
bubble-up, bottom-up citizen campaigns."

These newly empowered constituents are using technology to send a
message to politicians. Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack frequently hears from
citizens via e-mails on his Blackberry.

"It's great because it reconnects people to government. It's created a
sense of community and a sense of belonging," he said.

Politicians who pay little heed could find frustrated voters banding
together and creating a third-party movement.

"At some point this has got to reach critical mass," Kofinis
said. "Nobody knows when that will happen or how that will happen, but
it will literally explode into a movement."

On the Net:

MoveOn: http://www.MoveOn.org
Meetup: http://www.meetup.com
Blogs on Bush: http://www.blogsforbush.com

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.

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From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Japan's TBS, Index in Internet TV Joint Venture
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:03:00 -0600


Tokyo Broadcasting System Inc. (TBS), Japan's third-biggest TV
broadcaster, said on Monday it will form a joint venture with mobile
content provider Index Corp. and others to air TV programs over the
Internet.

The move, first reported by media last month, is the latest between
Japan's Internet companies and TV broadcasters, many of which have
become takeover targets as Internet firms seek to use advances in
communications technology to deliver content via the Web.

TBS, Index and satellite TV broadcaster Sky Perfect Communications
Inc. said they would form a joint venture in January and plan to air
2006 FIFA World Cup programs for which Index has broadcasting rights
over the Internet and cellular phones.

The three firms would also ask other nationwide TV networks, including
Japan's biggest broadcaster Fuji Television Network Inc., to
participate in the joint venture, they said.

TBS last month managed to fend off a merger proposal from Rakuten
Inc., Japan's biggest Web shopping mall operator, which sought to
create a media-Internet company after acquiring nearly 20 percent of
TBS.

TBS agreed to discuss business tie-ups with Rakuten in four areas, including
TV and e-commerce, after Rakuten placed half of its stake in TBS in trust.

Shares in TBS closed unchanged at 3,050 yen before the
announcement. Index finished up 12.2 percent at 184,000 yen, while Sky
Perfect was up 1.49 percent at 88,400 yen.

The benchmark Nikkei average rose 1.04 percent.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. 

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From: Jim Fitzgerald <ap@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Mother Decides to Fight Downloading Suit on Her Own
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:14:48 -0600


By JIM FITZGERALD, Associated Press Writer

It was Easter Sunday, and Patricia Santangelo was in church with her
kids when she says the music recording industry peeked into her
computer and decided to take her to court.

Santangelo says she has never downloaded a single song on her
computer, but the industry didn't see it that way. The woman from
Wappingers Falls, about 80 miles north of New York City, is among the
more than 16,000 people who have been sued for allegedly pirating
music through file-sharing computer networks.

"I assumed that when I explained to them who I was and that I wasn't a
computer downloader, it would just go away," she said in an
interview. "I didn't really understand what it all meant. But they
just kept insisting on a financial settlement."

The industry is demanding thousands of dollars to settle the case, but
Santangelo, unlike the 3,700 defendants who have already settled, says
she will stand on principle and fight the lawsuit.

"It's a moral issue," she said. "I can't sign something that says I
agree to stop doing something I never did."

If the downloading was done on her computer, Santangelo thinks it may
have been the work of a young friend of her children. Santangelo, 43,
has been described by a federal judge as "an Internet-illiterate
parent, who does not know Kazaa from kazoo, and who can barely
retrieve her email." Kazaa is the peer-to-peer software program used
to share files.

The drain on her resources to fight the case -- she's divorced, has
five children aged 7 to 19 and works as a property manager for a real
estate company -- forced her this month to drop her lawyer and begin
representing herself.

"There was just no way I could continue on with a lawyer," she
said. "I'm out $24,000 and we haven't even gone to trial."

So on Thursday she was all alone at the defense table before federal
Magistrate Judge Mark Fox in White Plains, looking a little nervous
and replying simply, "Yes, sir" and "No, sir" to his questions about
scheduling and exchange of evidence.

She did not look like someone who would have downloaded songs like
Incubus' "Nowhere Fast," Godsmack's "Whatever" and Third Eye Blind's
"Semi-Charmed Life," all of which were allegedly found on her
computer.

Her former lawyer, Ray Beckerman, says Santangelo doesn't really need
him.

"I'm sure she's going to win," he said. "I don't see how they could
win.  They have no case. They have no evidence she ever did
anything. They don't know how the files appeared on her computer or
who put them there."

Jenni Engebretsen, spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association
of America, the coalition of music companies that is pressing the
lawsuits, would not comment specifically on Santangelo's case.

"Our goal with all these anti-piracy efforts is to protect the ability
of the recording industry to invest in new bands and new music and
give legal online services a chance to flourish," she said. "The
illegal downloading of music is just as wrong as shoplifting from a
local record store."

The David-and-Goliath nature of the case has attracted considerable
attention in the Internet community. To those who defend the right to
such "peer-to-peer" networks and criticize the RIAA's tactics,
Santangelo is a hero.

Jon Newton, founder of an Internet site critical of the record  companies,
said by e-mail that with all the settlements, "The impression created
is all these people have been successfully prosecuted for some as-yet
undefined 'crime'. And yet not one of them has so far appeared in a
court or before a judge. ... She's doing it alone. She's a courageous
woman to be taking on the multibillion-dollar music industry."

Santangelo said her biggest issue is with Kazaa for allowing children
to download music without parental permission. "I should have gotten
at least an e-mail or something notifying me," she said. Telephone and
e-mail messages seeking comment from the Australia-based owner of
Kazaa, Sharman Networks Ltd., were not returned.

Because some cases are settled just before a trial and because it
would be months before Santangelo's got that far, it's impossible to
predict whether she might be the first to go to trial over music
downloading.

But she vows that she's in the fight to stay.

"People say to me, `You're crazy. Why don't you just settle?' I could
probably get out of the whole thing if I paid maybe $3,500 and signed
their little document. But I won't do that."

Her travail started when the record companies used an investigator to
go online and search for copyrighted recordings being made available
by individuals. The investigator allegedly found hundreds on her
computer on April 11, 2004. Months later, there was a phone call from
the industry's "settlement center," demanding about $7,500 "to keep me
from being named in a lawsuit," Santangelo said.

Santangelo and Beckerman were confident they would win a motion to
dismiss the case, but Judge Colleen McMahon ruled that the record
companies had enough of a case to go forward. She said the issue was
whether "an Internet-illiterate parent" could be held liable for her
children's downloads.

Santangelo says she's learned a lot about computers in the past year.

"I read some of these blogs and they say, `Why didn't this woman have
a firewall?' she said. "Well, I have a firewall now. I have a ton of
security now."


On the Net:

Recording Industry Association of America: http://www.riaa.com
Defense lawyers' blog on RIAA cases:
http://www.recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com
Site focusing on peer-to-peer issues: http://p2pnet.net

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.

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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 06:00:41 -0500
From: John Stahl <aljon@stny.rr.com>
Subject: NY Times News Feed


Hey Pat,

Unless my browser is on the blink (and that could happen!) I tried the
link (URL) in your latest issue to your NY Times news collection point
but received a "403" error. I tried to find it but back tracking but
couldn't find the NY Times (found ABC, etc.)

Please check it out. Thanks.

John Stahl
Telecom/Data Consultant
Aljon Enterprises

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Subject: Re: NY Times News Feed
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:41:49 EST
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)


John Stahl asked about the nytimes.html newsfeed.

The _exact_ link was 'nytimes.html' _not_ uppercase 'NYtimes' so that
made it appear unavailable. However, anticipating that problem in the
future, I added a couple of cross links to the page just today.

Now, all these work and go to the same place:
http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/nytimes.html  (the original link)
http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/NYTimes.html  (newly added)
http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/newyorktimes.html (newly added)

In the left column, a hundred and some news headlines from the current
day's NY Times plus stories from yesterday and the day before. In the
right column, at the top of the page, following my click through ads
 -- but of course! (grin) -- the top stories from the current issue of
The Christian Science Monitor, and (select as desired) audio feeds
from the the past couple day's of the NPR "All Things Considered"
program, the current issue of Salon.com and a few assorted news
headlines from CNN (Cable News Network).

Any of the stories you click on on that page open to a new page with
the story.  

I have one 'master feed' and you can read it acording to whatever
audio background you want:

All these begin as http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra then the URL 
continues with:  
/AP.html  for Associated Press audio 5 minute summary (and the news feed).
/BBC.html for a live stream from BBC World Service (and the news feed).
/BBC-summary.html BBC five minute news summary (and the news feed). 
/Fednews.html for Associated Press 24 hour 'news radio' (and the news feed).
/TDNewsrasdio.html for my own 'news radio' 24/7 (and the printed news feed).
/KOSU.html for NPR audio news i.e. 'All Things Considered', others, and
            primarily classical music 24/7 (and the printed news feed).
/newstoday.html (no audio, just the printed news feed).
/nytimes.html (New York Times, Christian Science Monitor and NPR news feeds).
(this last entry is not on the 'master feed'; they do their own feeds).
/internet-news.html  (USA Today and some tech news, also United Press 
            International news feed (also separate, not part of the
            'master news feed').

My own /TDNewsradio.html alternates every couple hours between Voice of
America, NPR News, and BBC World Service. A "listener's guide" in the 
far right column tells you what service is on at any given time.  
And, there is the printed 'master news feed' as well.

It is _all_ the way the net _should be_; no cookies, no logins, no
registration requirements; just fun and information for everyone.

PAT

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Date: 26 Dec 2005 03:20:57 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones?
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> When you reach that recording, is that call chargeable?

Of course not.

> I called a few times using my Calling Card but couldn't reach him
> and I was billed for the calls.

I suspect your calling card was charging you for any call over N
seconds rather than checking for supervision.  I make test calls from
my landline to my cell numbers in Luxembourg and Switzerland from time
to time, hanging up once my phone starts ringing, and I don't ever
recall being charged unless I answered.

R's,

John

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From: DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones?
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:03:34 -0700
Organization: Disorganized


In message <telecom24.580.3@telecom-digest.org> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
wrote:

> If you call a cellphone (without voicemail) and it doesn't answer,
> after a few rings an intercept recording will come on and tell you the
> party is not available and terminate the call.

> When you reach that recording, is that call chargeable?  I don't think
> it should be since it was unanswered, but my experience is that one
> does get charged.

In general, it's not chargeable.  However, some systems get "confused"
(intentionally misbill, since the consumer probably won't notice, and
the company need only refund the amount of the overcharge, so there is
little risk.)

(TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: However, considering that a cell phone
is normally always within its owner's reach (a holster fastened to
your trousers, in your purse, in a holder near the driver of an
automobile, etc) it would seem very odd that it had to ring more than
three or four times, at best, unanswered.  PAT]

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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:16:26 -0700
From: Anthony Bellanga <anthonybellanga@spam-poison.com>
Reply-To: no-spam@no-spam.no-spam.spam-poison.com.remembered-you-this-time!
Subject: Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones


PAT: Please DELETE my email address WHERE-EVER it might appear!

hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> If you call a cellphone (without voicemail) and it doesn't answer,
> after a few rings an intercept recording will come on and tell you
> the party is not available and terminate the call.

> When you reach that recording, is that call chargeable?  I don't
> think it should be since it was unanswered, but my experience is
> that one does get charged.

> A few years ago I was meeting a friend at a convention, and I was
> to call his cell phone from a pay phone upon my arrival.  His cell
> phone number was long distance from that point.  I called a few
> times using my Calling Card but couldn't reach him and I was billed
> for the calls. I complained and they took it off.

> Now I realize most people today have such low per-call fees (ie 10c)
> so this isn't an issue, but there are times from a pay phone, long
> distance, or peak period cell phone roaming where the per-call
> charge is indeed significant, even as much as a dollar or more per
> minute.

And using a calling card from a payphone can be significant these
days since the payphone owner can now "legally" extort huge charges
from the long distance carrier or card provider, who will then extort
those surcharges from us.

> It doesn't seem to fair to charge for unanswered calls.  I don't
> know if traditional supervision (call answered) signals are passed
> back from cell phone switches.

Answer supervision is indeed passed back from cellular service
switches. But remember that these days (and even in times past as
well), standardization is not perfect. And it isn't always consistant
as to which cellular providers will supervise back your calls to
such messages. It can vary from switch to switch within the same
cellular provider as to whether you are charged or not for reaching
such a "subscriber not available" (vacant) message.

Even with traditional landline providers, sometimes you can find a
charge condition on reaching intercepts (which are really the digit
by digit quote back systems), and "vacant condition" recordings. And
as I said, there were times this happened even in years past, back
when the telephone industry in the US was still mostly managed by
AT&T and Bell.

If you are concerned, make a note of such calls, and check to see
if they were indeed billed when the bill arrives. And then complain
to your long distance company or card provider to get a credit.

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From: NOTvalid@Queensbridge.us
Subject: Re: Unanswered Calls to Cell Phones?
Date: 26 Dec 2005 10:15:36 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I now use Virgin but from 1998-2004 I used SPCS I had tested from a
payphone to one of my SPCS phones w/o VM and with no answer, coin was
returned.

Wife has VM on Virgin I do not.  I should do same test with Virgin.

Supervison may depend on cell carrier.  Your calling card may bill
based on time instead of supervison.

Altho I have included USA LDX on Virgin, for international on Virgin I
use OneSuite.

I like OneSuite. Incredibly low long distance phone rates. As low as
USA-Canada 1.9CPM!  Works as prepaid phone card. PIN not needed for
calls from home or cell phone. Compare the rates at
https://www.OneSuite.com/ No monthly fee or minimum. Use
Promotion/SuiteTreat Code: "FREEoffer23" for FREE time.  Altho from
USA payphones there is a surcharge, there is NONE from Canadian
payphones.

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From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Physically Protecting The Local Loop Network?
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:29:54 -0800
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


Gordon Burditt <gordonb.wvukh@burditt.org> wrote in message 
news:telecom24.570.7@telecom-digest.org:

      (Snip, ship, snip...)

> A long time ago, when they first started allowing other people to
> connect modems to a phone line, but NOT directly, there was the DAA
> ("Data Access Arrangement", I think).  I worked with these in the late
> 1970's.  You rented it from the phone company.  It had a defined
> interface so you could pass voice through it, take the phone off the
> hook, pulse dial, detect ringing, etc.  For tone dialing you'd just...

      (More Snippage...

There was also a gizmo of much the same circuitry called a VCA --
Voice Connecting Arrangement.  A VCA was used on a trunk connecting a
common carrier's service to a customer owned PBX.  While a stand alone
VCA was pretty simple, when there were a lot of them there was a lot
of stuff - equipment racks, mounting shelves, distributing frames, and
who knows what other manner of monkey business.  At least there was no
power - as I recall these VCAs (made by TelLabs) used no external
power.  (A "DanRay" PBX I installed in the early '80s had nearly 300
trunks and an equal number of VCAs!  These were installed in a room
separate from the PBX and consumed quite a footprint).

Al

(Oh -- Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  Thanks for helping to educate me 
throughout all of 2005 -- and several years before that as well!)

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From: harold@hallikainen.com <harold@hallikainen.com>
Subject: Last Laugh! Re: Florida Attorney General: My Email is Not Spam!
Date: 26 Dec 2005 11:29:31 -0800


I wonder how many of these emails from the AG got reported to
spamcop.net?

Harold

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