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TELECOM Digest     Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:25:00 EST    Volume 24 : Issue 522

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    US to Keep Control of Internet But Offers Concession (Andy Sullivan)
    US Tech Firms Set Adware Guidelines (Kenneth Li & Jerome Pelofsky)
    Google to Let Users Publish Information on Line, per WSJ (Reuters NewsWire)
    Publishers Suing Google (Paul Andrews)
    CD's Recalled for Posing Risk to PC's (Monty Solomon)
    Cellular-News for Wednesday 16th November 2005 (Cellular-News)
    My New Cell Phone, Nokia 6010 (TELECOM Digest Editor)
    USTARcom Wins China Telecom IPTV Contract (USTA Daily Lead)
    Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire (meissen)
    Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire (Lichter)
    Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire (harold)
    Re: USA Wants Wiretap on Internet Calls Expanded (Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
    Re: Imagine All Your Information in One Convenient Place (Tom Betz)
    Last Laugh! Announcement For Our [Sick] Members (xiyalun@yahoo.com)

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From: Andy Sullivan <reuters@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: US to Keeps Control But Offers a Concession
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:56:46 -0600


By Andy Sullivan and Astrid Wendlandt

The United States will keep control of the domain-name system that
guides online traffic under an agreement on Wednesday seen as a
setback to efforts to internationalize one of the pillars of the
Internet.

Negotiators at the United Nations World Summit on the Information
Society said the USA and ICANN had agreed allow those other countries
to set up a forum to _discuss_ 'spam' e-mail and Internet crime and
'explore' ways to narrow the technology gap between rich and poor
countries. The forum will _not_ be permitted to implement or enforce
any decisions it may reach after the 'discussions', merely make its
recommendations to the USA. 

Final authority of the domain-name system and other issues will remain
with the United States, a setback for the European Union and other
countries that had pushed for international control of one of the most
important technical aspects of the Internet.

The European Union said in a statement that the agreement would lead
to "further internationalization of Internet governance, and enhanced
intergovernmental cooperation to this end."

"In the short term, U.S. oversight is not immediately challenged, but
in the long term they are under the obligation to negotiate with all
the states about the future and evolution of Internet governance,"
said a member of the EU delegation who declined to be identified.

The U.S. said the agreement essentially endorses the status quo.

"There's nothing new in this document that wasn't already out there
before," said Ambassador David Gross, the head of the U.S. delegation.

"We have no concerns that it could morph into something unsavory, or
that spam and crime will get any worse, " he said about the forum.

The summit was launched two years ago with a focus on bringing
technology to the developing world, but U.S. control of the
domain-name system had become a sticking point for countries like Iran
and Brazil, who argued that it should be managed by the United Nations
or some other global body so that it would become and remain neutral. 

The United States argued that such a body would stifle innovation with
red tape. The EU in recent months had sought to reach a compromise
between the two sides, saying that 'red tape' and politics was more
likely with United States control of the net than any of them.

"Let me be absolutely clear: the United Nations does not want to take
over, police or otherwise control the Internet," said UN Secretary
General Kofi Annan. "Day-to-day running of the Internet must be left
to neutral non-political technical institutions, not least to shield
it from the heat of day to day politics and business decisions."

Under the agreement, a California nonprofit body known as the Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN, will continue to
oversee the system that matches addresses like "reuters.com" with
numerical addresses that computers can understand.

Individual countries will have greater control over their own domains,
such as China's .cn or France's .fr. Disputes have arisen on occasion
between national governments and the independent administrators
assigned to manage these domains by ICANN.

Businesses, technical experts and human-rights groups will be allowed
to participate along with governments in the forum, which will first
meet in early 2006, to 'discuss and explore' the issues of spam and
crime on the net. 

"Internet governance requires a multi-stakeholder approach. This is
why we have suffered such agonies in our discussions on Internet
governance," said Yoshio Utsumi, who heads the International
Telecommunications Union, the UN organization that sponsored the
summit.

(Additional reporting by Huw Jones in Brussels)

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. 

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From: Kenneth Li & Jeremy Pelofsky <reuters@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: US Tech Firms to Set Adware Guidelines
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:03:23 -0600


By Kenneth Li and Jeremy Pelofsky

Top U.S. technology companies plan to unveil on Wednesday new
guidelines aimed at combating unwanted software that tracks the
behavior of Web users and generates pop-up ads, sources familiar with
the matter said on Tuesday.

The parties include Time Warner Inc.'s online division AOL, Verizon
Communications, the Center for Democracy and Technology, CNET Networks
Inc., CA , Yahoo Inc. and nonprofit online privacy organization
TRUSTe, the sources said.

TRUSTe will administer a best-practices "standard of good behavior for
adware companies and companies more broadly that distribute
downloadable software," said one source, who declined to be
identified.

"It's designed to get the worst of the bad actors out," explained the
source, regarding the guideline's intent.

The program, which will be unveiled at a news conference in
Washington, is expected to be called the "Trusted Download Program,"
another source said.

Since the companies would not do business with those adware firms that
do not have TRUSTe certification, it gives those firms an incentive to
participate, a third source said, declining identification.

Additionally, the compliance with the guidelines would give
advertisers better information about the practices by adware
companies, the source said.

Representatives of CA, CNET and TRUSTe were not immediately available
for comment. AOL and Yahoo declined comment. A Verizon spokesman
confirmed it would participate in the news conference with TRUSTe but
declined to provide details.

The drafting of the guidelines comes on the heels of a public
relations disaster for music company Sony BMG, which faces a
U.S. lawsuit charging it with not informing customers before
distributing CD copy protection software that installs and hides
itself in computers that track a user's habits.

Media companies, seeking to court a new audience online and on mobile
devices, have experimented with selling programming online and
on-demand but are wary their products will be stolen before proper
digital rights management protections are established.

Asked if some of Sony's CDs containing the aggressive copy protection
software would have passed muster under these new guidelines, one
source said, "There's no way they'd pass it."

The Senate Commerce Committee plans to consider legislation on
Thursday aimed at regulating the unauthorized installation of computer
software and require better disclosure of software features that may
threaten privacy.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited.

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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Shouldn't they be required to wait until
the new Spam and Crime Discussion and Exploration of the Issues forum
has had a chance to discuss it and explore it?  PAT]

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From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: Google to Let Web Users Publish Information According to WSJ
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:59:02 -0600


Google Inc. will launch a service on Wednesday that will let Web users
publish information online that others will be able to search, the
Wall Street Journal reported.

The service, to be called "Google Base," aims to allow people to
distribute content such as job listings or recipes online, regardless
of whether they have a Web site, the paper said. It is also designed
to allow the creators to categorize the postings, which should improve
the quality of search results.

Last month, Google said it was testing the service, but would not
confirm whether the move was part of a broader push into online
shopping to compete with the likes of eBay Inc. or Amazon.com Inc.

Analysts said then that if Google combined the publishing system with
its Froogle shopping service and other offerings, it could compete
with local classified advertising on sites such as eBay or Craig's
List or online shopping at Amazon.com.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. 

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From: Paul Andrews <pandrews@seattletimes.com>
Subject: Publishers Suing Google
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:01:19 -0600


As a longtime dues-paying member of the Authors Guild, I'm party to a
lawsuit against Google over its new book-search service called Google
Print.

As an author of two books, though, I'm not sure I want to be suing
Google.  Every writer wants his or her work to be read. But to be
read, a work needs to be found. Digital search is fast becoming the de
facto way to be found.

The problem is that finding something digitally too easily equates to
possessing it.

Google Print, which you can try out now in test form at
print.google.com, aims to do for books what Google has done for the
Web. You search on a topic or keyword and you're presented with a list
of citations from books whose entire text Google has indexed. So far
Google has agreements with a handful of libraries to digitize their
books.

Here's where things get sticky. The Authors Guild thinks that Google,
by indexing books and presenting squibs in searches, violates
copyright law.  Authors receive no compensation from readers who may
find all they want or need in a few excerpts without having to buy the
entire book.

It's even possible that persistent searchers could assemble entire
books by doing repeated searches. So the same demon of piracy plaguing
the entertainment business rears its ugly head in the publishing
sector.

So far, Google has shown interest in making money only from
search-linked advertising, not from book content. It argues that
indexing books and displaying excerpts are legal procedures akin to
quotes in reviews and do not require publishers' permission.

That's opened the door for competitors including Yahoo!, Microsoft and
Amazon.com to do "responsible" library-search deals that abide by
publishers' guidelines.

Amazon is planning to introduce a feature in which users pay "a few
cents a page" for online access to selected books.

Led by the Association of American Publishers, which also is suing
Google, many publishers argue that even squibs should cost money.

Random House has said it wants 4 cents per excerpt. But just as the
"true price" of a downloaded song, TV show or movie is still being
debated, reasonable cost (if any) for a book excerpt has yet to be
tested.

What if pay-for searches discourage readers from even looking? One
further complication: What slice of that 4 cents, if any, will be
passed from the publisher to the author?

One thing the controversy has highlighted is the publishing industry's
desperate need to climb aboard the 21st century.

"Web users are way out in front of the business model," said Chuck
Richard, an analyst at Outsell, which tracks information markets. 
Readers are migrating to digital in droves, but revenue is mired on
the print side, Richard said.

It may be that the only thing worse than Google Print would be no
Google Print.

Without some digital equivalent to the concept of a library, a lot of
great writing could be lost to the ages. And no one -- readers,
authors, publishers, Google and its competitors -- would benefit from
that.

Seattle freelance writer Paul Andrews has written about technology for
more than two decades. He can be reached at pandrews@seattletimes.com.

Copyright 2005 The Seattle Times Company

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:29:44 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: CD's Recalled for Posing Risk to PC's


By TOM ZELLER Jr.

The global music giant Sony BMG yesterday announced plans to recall
millions of CD's by at least 20 artists -- from the crooners Celine
Dion and Neil Diamond to the country-rock act Van Zant -- because they
contain copy restriction software that poses risks to the computers of
consumers.

The move, more commonly associated with collapsing baby strollers,
exploding batteries, or cars with faulty brakes, is expected to cost
the company tens of millions of dollars. Sony BMG said that all CD's
containing the software would be removed from retail outlets and that
exchanges would be offered to consumers who had bought any of them.

A toll-free number and e-mail message inquiry system will also be set
up on the Sony BMG Web site, sonybmg.com.

"We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause our customers," the
company said in a letter that it said it would post on its Web site,
"and are committed to making this situation right." Neither
representatives of Sony BMG nor the British company First 4 Internet,
which developed the copy protection software, would comment further.

Sony BMG estimated last week that about five million discs -- some 49
different titles -- had been shipped with the problematic software,
and about two million had been sold.

Market research from 2004 has shown that about 30 percent of consumers
report obtaining music through the copying and sharing of tracks among
friends from legitimately purchased CD's. But the fallout from the
aggressive copy protection effort has raised serious questions about
how far companies should be permitted to go in seeking to prevent
digital piracy.

The recall and exchange program, which was first reported by USA
Today, comes two weeks after news began to spread on the Internet that
certain Sony BMG CD's contained software designed to limit users to
making only three copies. The software also, however, altered the
deepest levels of a computer's systems and created vulnerabilities
that Internet virus writers could exploit.

Since then, computer researchers have identified other problems with
the software, as well as with the software patch and uninstaller
programs that the company issued to address the vulnerabilities.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/16/technology/16sony.html?ex=1289797200&en=c8d164a98ca18537&ei=5090

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Subject: Cellular-News for Wednesday 16th November 2005
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:35:36 -0600
From: Cellular-News <dailydigest@cellular-news-mail.com>


Cellular-News - http://www.cellular-news.com

[[3G News]]

Australia's Telstra Won't Build 3G Network In New Zealand
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14830.php

Telstra Corp. said Tuesday that it won't build a 3G network in New
Zealand. ...

Nokia, T-Mobile Successfully Test HSDPA Networks
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14833.php

Finnish telecommunications equipment maker Nokia Corp. Tuesday said
that together with T-Mobile International it has completed High Speed
Downlink Data Packet Access, or HSDPA, calls using Nokia's
third-generation network technology. ...

Share 3G Videos During Voice Calls
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14843.php

Hong Kong's CSL has announced the launch of Asia's first 3G "Video
Sharing Service", enabling 1O1O and One2Free customers to share
real-time or pre-recorded video clips spontaneously during normal
voice calls. With the brand-new Nokia N70, 6680 and N...

Cingular Affiliate Orders 3G Kit
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14846.php

Nortel has been selected by Edge Wireless to expand its wireless voice
and data network in four states across western USA. In addition,
Nortel and Edge Wireless will begin UMTS and HSDPA 3G field trials
this month. Under the terms of the agreement, N...

[[Financial News]]

Soros Ups Stake In Motorola
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14831.php

Billionaire George Soros' investment fund on Monday reported major
increases in holdings of two household tech names. ...

Vodafone CEO: No Material Impact From Telefonica O2 Buy
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14832.php

Vodafone Group PLC Chief Executive Arun Sarin Tuesday said he doesn't
expect Telefonica SA's GBP18 billion takeover of O2 PLC to materially
impact his company's performance. ...

Vodafone 1st Half Pretax, Pre-Items Profit GBP4.8 Billion Vs GBP4.5 Billion
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14834.php

Vodafone Group said Tuesday that interim sales were GBP18.25 billion
(2004: GBP16.8 billion). Interim pretax, pre-items profit was GBP4.8
billion (2004: GBP4.5 billion). ...

Alcatel, Ericsson Share Spoils In Telstra Upgrade
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14835.php

Alcatel Tuesday said it has won a EUR2.2 billion order from
Australia's Telstra Corp., the latest in a spate of major network
upgrades that are fueling fierce competition among telecommunications
equipment makers. ...

Vodafone Slumps After Warning On Revenue, Margins
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14838.php

PREMIUM - Shares of Vodafone Group PLC fell as much as 10% Tuesday as
the mobile operator warned revenue and profit margins would fall next
fiscal year, following a 23% decline in first-half net profit. ...

Investors Ready Offer For TDC
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14839.php

The two of two private equity consortia is preparing a bid for what
could be the $12 billion sale of Denmark's TDC in what could be the
largest leveraged buyout in European history, according to a media
report Tuesday. ...

Handset Retailer profit soars in January-September 
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14840.php

The net profit of Russian mobile handset and services retailer
Svyaznoi rose to 19.379 million rubles in January-September from 2.424
million rubles in the same period last year, as calculated under
Russian Accounting Standards, or RAS, the company s...

[[Handsets News]]

Nokia, Grameen Foundation In Mobile Phone Financing Pact
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14836.php

Finland's Nokia and U.S. Grameen Foundation said Tuesday they will
collaborate to bring affordable, accessible telecommunications to
rural villages in Africa through microfinance. ...

New Handsets from Sagem
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14848.php

Sagem has launched its new ultra-slim my300X product line, being the
first step into the globally renewing its product range. In addition
to proposing a new design style in the product range, Sagem has also
taken the first step to evolving its produc...

[[Legal News]]

Norway's Telenor starts arbitration against Russia's Alfa units 
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14837.php

Norway's telecommunications company Telenor has started Monday an
arbitration proceeding against affiliates of Russia's Alfa Group,
Telenor said in a press release late Monday. ...

[[Mobile Content News]]

Premium Rate SMS Vendor Secures Canadian Access
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14851.php

The UK based premium rate SMS supplier, mBlox says that is launching
cross-carrier Premium Short Message Service (PSMS) in Canada. mBlox
will empower clients already doing business in the USA to deliver and
bill for wireless content and services acro...

Get Dilbert on a Mobile
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14852.php

Verizon Wireless has inked a deal with FunMail to offer Dilbert
cartoons on Verizon handsets. Each day, Daily Dilbert delivers a
popular Dilbert comic strip directly to the phones of Verizon Wireless
Mobile Web 2.0 customers -- giving Dilbert comic f...

[[Network Operators News]]

CDMA Coverage Expands in Alaska
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14841.php

Alaska Communications Systems (ACS) has announced its recent rapid
expansion of its wireless coverage on its CDMA network. ACS' footprint
is growing with the intention of covering 80% of Alaska's population
with CDMA service by the middle of 2006. In...

Digicel Announces Jamaican Subscriber Growth
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14842.php

Digicel, the Caribbean based mobile telecommunications provider, says
that Digicel's Jamaica operations have reached a milestone of 1.376
million subscribers. Digicel Jamaica gained 24,000 new subscribers in
the month of October 2005 alone as the com...

[[Personnel News]]

Staff Changes At Sony Ericsson
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14849.php

Sony Ericsson has announced the appointment of Ulf Lilja from
Ericsson's Group CFO office as the company's new Chief Financial
Officer, and Shoji Nemoto, President of Sony's Digital Imaging
Business Group, as its new Head of Product Business Unit GSM...

[[Statistics News]]

Investcom Passes 4 Million Subscriber Mark
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14844.php

Investcom (formerly Investcom Holding) which has operations in Africa,
the Middle East and Europe, has announced it has exceeded four million
subscribers. The company owns and operates mobile services, mostly
under the Areeba brand, in eight markets ...

More Consumers Want Wireless as Bundle Option
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14845.php

Landline telecom carriers apparently are not providing wireless in
their service bundles as frequently as customers would like, reports
In-Stat. According to an In-Stat consumer survey, only 18% of current
bundle subscribers have wireless, even thoug...

[[Technology News]]

Short Messaging Style Services Deployed in Kenya
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14847.php

Redknee say that it recently won a contract from Kenya's
Safaricom. This new contract enables Safaricom's ten million
subscribers to take advantage of the USSD service portfolio with an
initial deployment of the Call Me service and a USSD Portal in t...

Canadian WiFi Roaming Supplier Selected
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14850.php

Syniverse Technologies has been awarded a multi-year, multi-carrier
contract to provide Mobile Data Roaming Services for the three
Canadian carriers: Bell Mobility, Rogers Wireless and TELUS
Mobility. These carriers recently announced an intercarrier...

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Subject: My New Cell Phone, Nokia 6010
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:55:28 EST
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)


The Cingular Wireless people here in town finally convinced me to swap
out my old digital cell phone (also Nokia) for a new GSM/GPRS phone. I had
said I would keep on using my old phone as long as service was available
for it, but lately it was getting harder and harder to get a good, clear
signal with no need for constant redial attempts, etc.  The new plan
they put me on is even a bit cheaper than what I had. And this new
phone has a provision to use 'mobile internet' from the phone itself. I
got to keep the number I had on the old phone, same voicemail, etc. The
new phone is a bit smaller, and not even a trace of an antenna on it 
anywhere; not even a little stub. It does sound a wee bit 'tinny' however
Cingular has me on 'no long distance charges' and 'no roaming' and
'rollover'. Since my landline (Prairie Stream) phone is set to
'transfer on busy/no answer (after 3 rings) it seems to be ideal for
my needs. It still is not clear to me _why_ they feel it is a beter
system than the phone I was using but they insist it is.

As with all these things, there is absolutely no standardization
between peripherals on old and new phones. My old cell socket, power
chargers, headsets, other handsfree devices do not fit and cannot be
used. The local manager here for Southwest Wireless, the Cingular
Wireless Agency here in town told me "one way the cell companies make
money is by assuring that no two phones ever use the same
attachments."  It figures.

PAT

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:25:20 EST
From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com>
Subject: UTStarcom Wins China Telecom IPTV Contract


USTelecom dailyLead
November 16, 2005
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/ydhUatagCxsvipCIwQ

		TODAY'S HEADLINES
	
NEWS OF THE DAY
* UTStarcom wins China Telecom IPTV contract
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* Telefonica inks Huawei deal, ups stake in China Netcom
* U.S. consumers pay more for less in broadband
* Motorola, Cingular plan revamped ROKR
* Skype seeks solution to SkypeOut problem in China
USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT
* Drivers for Fixed Mobile Convergence and IMS  
TECHNOLOGY TRENDS
* Pioneering developers build their own phones
* Sprint Nextel COO discusses wireless broadband plans
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* Milwaukee council approves Wi-Fi plans
* Court backs VoIP 911 deadline

Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
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From: jmeissen@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire
Date: 16 Nov 2005 05:19:40 GMT
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


In article <telecom24.521.6@telecom-digest.org>,
Kinon O'cann  <Yes.it's.me.Bowser@giganews.com> wrote:

> Comcast's best friend in this is Verizon. I had scheduled a move to
> FOIS, but cancelled when I learned that Verizon blocks many incoming
> ports, and although I can re-direct web and FTP traffic to other
> ports, that's a game I'd rather not play. Verizon can also block other
> ports, once they detect activity they don't like. I cancelled. I don't
> understand this behavior by Verizon at all. The relationship betwenn
> the customer and Verizon should be deadly simple: I pay for a
> connection, and then use it however I want (like I do now). Verizon
> limits speeds up and down, and that's their way of controlling network
> saturation. Then I learned they don't allow servers, either. What a
> joke. I pay for a connection, and they determine how I use it? No
> chance. Wake up, Verizon!

While Comcast may not block ports (yet), their terms-of-service do
forbid the operation of servers. Though luckily for many people I
know, they don't seem to enforce it.

It is possible to get an unrestricted FIOS connection. You simply have
to step up to the business package for $99/mo. On the plus side, that
also gives you 5 fixed IP addresses. Yeah, I think that sucks, too.

I'm expecting to not have much choice in the matter. The Feds have
given the phone companies the right to pull the plug on independent
ISP's in a year, which would force all of us to either Comcast or the
phone company's offering.


John Meissen                       jmeissen@aracnet.com

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From: Steven Lichter <shlichter@diespammers.com>
Reply-To: Die@spammers.com
Organization: I Kill Spammers, Inc.  (c) 2005 A Rot in Hell Co.
Subject: Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:07:53 GMT


Kinon O'cann wrote:

> Comcast's best friend in this is Verizon. I had scheduled a move to
> FOIS, but cancelled when I learned that Verizon blocks many incoming
> ports, and although I can re-direct web and FTP traffic to other
> ports, that's a game I'd rather not play. Verizon can also block other
> ports, once they detect activity they don't like. I cancelled. I don't
> understand this behavior by Verizon at all. The relationship betwenn
> the customer and Verizon should be deadly simple: I pay for a
> connection, and then use it however I want (like I do now). Verizon
> limits speeds up and down, and that's their way of controlling network
> saturation. Then I learned they don't allow servers, either. What a
> joke. I pay for a connection, and they determine how I use it? No
> chance. Wake up, Verizon!

> FWIW, I only want to use web and FTP services to share digital pics
> with my family, and it's way more convenient than trying to constantly
> e-mail huge files.

Don't allow servers, that new.  I have seen them supply rounters and
the such to their customers.  As to blocking ports all IP's do that
when there are problems.

The only good spammer is a dead one!!  Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2005  I Kill Spammers, Inc.  A Rot in Hell Co.

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From: harold@hallikainen.com <harold@hallikainen.com>
Subject: Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire
Date: 16 Nov 2005 07:55:13 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


I agree that communications carriers should be content neutral. If
they are concerned about bandwidth usage, then meter the bandwidth!
Some telco or cable modem guy (maybe SBC) said something like they
should be charging Google for using their wires. He left out the fact
that WE are paying for the use of the wires, and it should be up to
the customer as to what they want to say over those wires.

Unless network neutrality laws appear, I think that broadband
providers will be able to offer lower prices to consumers by offering
only their content (with advertising revenue) and their communications
services (paid VoIP instead of open standards VoIP). The consumer will
go with it for the initially low price, then be stuck.

Harold

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From: Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <spamtrap100@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: USA Wants Wiretap on Internet Calls Expanded
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:31:54 -0700
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Jeremy Pelofsky <reuters@telecom-digest.org> wrote:

> The U.S. Justice Department urged communications regulators to require
> Internet phone companies to provide the ability to conduct
> surveillance on services that offer only outgoing calls or incoming
> calls to or from the traditional phone network.

You know, this is just getting out of control. Our friends at DOJ seem
to be trying to make hay while the sun is shining, or at least trying
to push as far as they can in the current environment.

The bad guys aren't stupid and neither are the VOIP providers. All
they need to do is move offshore and they're exempt from dubious
extentions of CALEA.



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Except, I have heard it said, that even
if _some portion_ of your communication crosses the border into the
United States, then the USA government claims to be in control. Or
even if they are _not_ permitted to wiretap the offshore end of the
conversation, they can wiretap the domestic portion and accomplish the
same thing.   PAT]

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From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Imagine All Your Information in One Convenient Place
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:22:58 UTC
Organization: Some


Quoth info@mijavanetwork.com in news:telecom24.520.9@telecom-
digest.org:

> 
>      ... all in one place.

>      http://www.all.com

Sounds like a data miner's wet dream.


| "There's no telling what new harm Bush might |
|    do if he ever gets back up off the mat.   |
|  You have to keep your knee on his windpipe  |
|  until the danger is past." -- Garry Trudeau |   


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And it also sounds like an honest
netizen's nightmare. PAT]

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From: xiyalun@yahoo.com
Subject: Last Laugh! Announcement For Our [Sick] Members
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:40:09 -0500 (EST)



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The words/phrases in [brackets] are
my editorial comments to this piece of spam trash which showed up
in spam mail today. Mr. 'xiyalun' is actually an employee of the
United States Postal Disservice, working out of that infamous 
kiddie porn factory the Postal Disservice operates in South Florida.
Now I can see why they have to raise postage prices two cents in
January. It costs a lot of money to manuafacture and fill these
orders. PAT]

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self-righteous tone of voice, "oh, spammers do not send kiddie porn
around"]

By joining our [sick] site, you'll no longer have to search for other
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If you want to receive a private link to our site - just reply to this message
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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You bet we will! We all want to have
our names and email addresses added to the Postal Disservice mailing
list for FBI prosecution. Oh, by the way, Mr. Zipp, how have things
been going there, with all the hurricanes and stuff this past
summer. Is it true Katrina or Wilma blew away your factory building
and you had to construct a new place. Is that the reason postage rates
are going up in January, 2006?   PAT]

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