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TELECOM Digest Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:55:00 EST Volume 24 : Issue 504 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson NN0 Central Office Codes (Neal McLain) Just Googling It Is Striking Fear Into Companies (Monty Solomon) Meeting Will End Fight Over Cell Tower (Monty Solomon) Re: Verizon POTS (Steve Sobol) Re: Verizon POTS (NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info) Re: Verizon POTS (Tony P.) Re: Recorded Call From Law Office? (DevilsPGD) Re: Bank of America Delays Security Update (lenagainster@gmail.com) Re: AT&T Answering System 1309 - Need Help With Instruction (Garner Miller) Re: Old Chicago Numbering (Tony P.) Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:42:00 -0600 From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> Reply-To: nmclain@annsgarden.com Subject: NN0 Central Office Codes A few issues back, there was a thread about NN0 codes as central office codes. AT&T's publication "Notes on Distance Dialing" (1975) [1] includes a list of 63 NN0 codes that could be assigned either as area codes or as central office codes. This list, identified as "Chart 5," includes all NN0 codes in the range 220-990 (except for 950 which "is reserved for a future network-wide service") in an arbitrary (non-numerical) order. Each code is identified by a "sequence" number (#1 - #63). A copy of the list is posted at http://tinyurl.com/8csz7 . The accompanying text states: 2.03 Sometime after 1995, it is estimated that the 21 NPA codes still unassigned (end of 1974) will have been used and that it will be necessary to start using NNX type codes as NPA codes. In the interest of minimizing ambiguity, it is planned to assign the NN0 codes first in accordance with the sequence shown in Chart 5. (The NN0 codes have been designated as the last to be assigned as CO codes and a sequence that is the reverse of the of that for NPA code assignment is recommended.) Ultimately, it will become necessary to assign the remaining NNX codes for NPA code purposes. [2] Notes [3] on Chart 5 clarify the order of assignment: Central office codes should be drawn from the list in sequence-number order. After all N0/1X area codes are exhausted, further area codes should be drawn from the list in reverse-sequence-number order. If I understand this correctly, the idea was to assign NN0 codes as central office codes *and* as area codes *before* the introduction of interchangeable area codes, but to draw from opposite ends of the NN0 list in order to prevent ambiguity. Presumably, this would have forestalled the need for interchangeable area codes until the list was exhausted, theoretically somewhere in the middle of the list. It didn't work out that way ... Many NN0 codes were assigned as central office codes whenever and wherever they were needed, without regard to their positions on Chart 5. Examples that come to mind: 702-870 (#3 on the list) ca. 1989 Las Vegas 312-990 (#32 on the list) ca. 1988 Hinsdale 201-460 (#36 on the list) ca. 1982 Lyndhurst 414-730 (#52 on the list) ca. 1986 Appleton 214-680 (#54 on the list) ca. 1983 Dallas I assume that one reason for selecting these combinations was an attempt to maintain the look and feel of existing central office codes. That was certainly the case in Appleton, where Wisconsin Telephone was already using several other 73X combinations as central office codes. Curiously (as Mark Roberts noted in TD 24:482), 530 (#1 on the list) was in service -- at least briefly -- in California in 1965, a decade before Chart 5 was published. I wonder if this was just a coincidence? Or had some early version of Chart 5 already been published in 1965? No NN0 area codes were assigned before 1/1/1995 (when interchangeable area codes were introduced), but once the floodgates were open, many NN0 codes appeared quickly. But they too were assigned as needed, without regard to their positions on Chart 5. Seven of them were assigned [4] during 1995: 360 (#6) Washington 630 (#15) Illinois 770 (#25) Georgia 540 (#29) Virginia 970 (#31) Colorado 860 (#34) Connecticut 520 (#61) Arizona Note that Washington's 360 (#6 on the list) was actually #58 in the reverse sequence, while Arizona's 520 (#61) was actually #3 in reverse sequence. And, of course, all N90 combinations were reserved for future use, even though all eight of them appear on Chart 5. Apparently, Chart 5 had been abandoned before 1995. I assume that a major factor in the selection of new area codes after 1/1/1995 was conflict-avoidance: avoiding conflict between an area code and any central office code within the area code. This would have been a further reason for abandoning Chart 5. Even NPA 847 obeyed this constraint when it was first assigned; 847-847 appeared some time later. -------- References ------------- [1] American Telephone and Telegraph Company, Engineering and Network Services Department, Systems Planning Section. "Notes on Distance Dialing," Section 2 ("Numbering Plan and Dialing Procedures"), 1975. [2] Ibid, Section 2, p.2. [3] Ibid, Section 2, p.17. [4] Carl Moore: history.of.area.splits. November 2, 1995. http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/archives/areacodes/history.area.splits.11-95 Neal McLain ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:07:49 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: Just Googling It Is Striking Fear Into Companies By STEVE LOHR The New York Times November 6, 2005 Wal-Mart, the nation's largest retailer, strikes fear into the hearts of its competitors and suppliers. Makers of goods from diapers to DVD's must cater to its whims. But there is one company that even Wal-Mart eyes warily these days: Google, a seven-year-old business in a seemingly distant industry. "We watch Google very closely at Wal-Mart," said Jim Breyer, a member of Wal-Mart's board. In Google, Wal-Mart sees both a technology pioneer and the seed of a threat, said Mr. Breyer, who is also a partner in a venture capital firm. The worry is that by making information available everywhere, Google might soon be able to tell Wal-Mart shoppers if better bargains are available nearby. Wal-Mart is scarcely alone in its concern. As Google increasingly becomes the starting point for finding information and buying products and services, companies that even a year ago did not see themselves as competing with Google are beginning to view the company with some angst - mixed with admiration. Google's recent moves have stirred concern in industries from book publishing to telecommunications. Businesses already feeling the Google effect include advertising, software and the news media. Apart from retailing, Google's disruptive presence may soon be felt in real estate and auto sales. Google, the reigning giant of Web search, could extend its economic reach in the next few years as more people get high-speed Internet service and cellphones become full-fledged search tools, according to analysts. And ever-smarter software, they say, will cull and organize larger and larger digital storehouses of news, images, real estate listings and traffic reports, delivering results that are more like the advice of a trusted human expert. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/technology/06google.html?ex=1288933200&en=382239f45e5a64bd&ei=5088 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 02:30:16 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: Meeting Will End Fight Over Cell Tower By Kristen Green, Globe Correspondent | October 30, 2005 After years of battling cellular phone companies over where they can locate their antennas, Wayland selectmen will ask residents Tuesday to rezone town-owned land in the Reeves Hill area as a wireless district, which would pave the way for the first town-approved cell tower. Officials are asking voters to approve a location specified in a legal settlement the town reached this summer with Cingular Wireless, a cellphone company, and Horizon Towers, a tower-building company. The companies had taken the town to court to push their proposal to build a tower on Boston Post Road (Route 20) near Pine Brook Road. The zoning change requires two-thirds approval at Tuesday's Special Town Meeting. Voters will also be asked to allow the town to lease the property to Horizon Towers, which would construct a 180-foot cellphone tower, replacing an existing 120-foot tower on Reeves Hill the town uses for police and fire communications. If voters reject the articles, the town will be required under its settlement agreement to issue a building permit at the Route 20 site, said Michael L. Tichnor, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, a siting the town has fought. http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/10/30/meeting_will_end_fight_over_cell_tower/ ------------------------------ From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> Subject: Re: Verizon POTS Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:46:05 -0800 Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com Joe wrote: > How long does it take for Verizon to install POTS? They installed it a week or so after I ordered it. I told them when I was moving in. Apple Valley, California. Former Continental Telephone/GTE territory. YMM definitely V. Did they give you an install date or a turnaround time when you placed the order? Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP: 0xE3AE35ED Company website: http://JustThe.net/ Personal blog, resume, portfolio: http://SteveSobol.com/ E: sjsobol@JustThe.net Snail: 22674 Motnocab Road, Apple Valley, CA 92307 ------------------------------ From: NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info Subject: Re: Verizon POTS Date: 5 Nov 2005 10:29:19 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com What happens if you plug in a phone? ------------------------------ From: Tony P. <kd1s.nospam@nospam.cox.nosapm.net> Subject: Re: Verizon POTS Organization: Ace Tomato and Cement Co. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:52:34 -0500 In article <telecom24.503.4@telecom-digest.org>, Joe@NOSPAM.SPAM says... > How long does it take for Verizon to install POTS? > I have moved my mother to an apartment. The complex is not new, been > there for 10+years. The previous tenent had Verizon POTS. I called > Verizon for new service on 10/27. Got a tracking number. But it has > been 5 business days and no telephone service. Checked online using > tracking number but it shows "in progress", no date. Called customer > support, on hold for 45min. then gave up. > Any idea how long it takes? Verizon is famous for having crappy outside plant records. For example, when I moved here in October, 2004 they swore up and down that service was hooked up. Plug in the phone and no dial-tone. No NID either. So I open the terminal block, take out the butt set and start dialing the ANAC number on every pair. Not only did I find my pair, I found the NID for my apartment and the two weren't anywhere near each other, nor was the NID connected. Called Verizon and told em' it was pair 14 and I wanted it hooked to my NID. The tech that came out had a good laugh, he said I'd stirred up a hornets nest inside Verizon's install/repair depot. Customers are NOT supposed to open terminal boxes. But when said boxes are secured with 7/16" nuts, it isn't hard to get in. ------------------------------ From: DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> Subject: Re: Recorded Call From Law Office? Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:16:18 -0700 Organization: Disorganized In message <telecom24.503.9@telecom-digest.org> DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you are referring to the McDonalds > at 5000 or 5100 West Dempster (Niles Center Road and Dempster, about a > block east of the Skokie Swift station) that does not surprise me at > all. They got the notion once to lock down the inside eating area at > 9 PM but keep the drive up window open until 11 PM, so at 9:10 PM I > came walking along on foot past the drive in window to get an order. > The woman refused to sell to me since I was 'not in a car'. We > exchanged a few words; I wound up getting an empty bag out of the > trash can nearby and calling the McDonalds customer service number. > The woman just about flipped out when she got a call from customer > service a couple minutes later asking her what was going on. Her > excuse was a 'man on a bike a couple weeks earlier had robbed her and > she was not going to take any more chances with pedestrians when the > main dining area had been closed for the night. Another time I was > told they considered it 'more effecient' to be 'blackmailed' out of > drinks rather than change their way of doing business. By comparison, > the McDonalds here in Independence is so pleasant, even for a > Mcdonalds place. I am watching to see if walmart gets sued the same > way, for using incorrectly (tax) programmed cash registers here. PAT] Definitely on Niles ... I think that's the right location, although I'm not 100% sure, it's been a couple months. It's actually not that uncommon these days for a place to have later drive through hours then restaurant hours, especially when they have a homeless and/or drunk problem. Also, the refusal to service walk through in the drive through is more of a safety issue, so that some asshole in a car doesn't mow you down. *shrugs* [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, it is Dempster Street and Skokie Blvd (Cicero Avenue a few blocks south when in Chicago). Niles Center Road runs at an angle a few blocks west of the Skokie Swift station. Cicero Avenue is 4800 west (as is Skokie Blvd) and the restaurant is 4800 West Dempster on its address. 5001 Dempster is the Skokie Swift station. The old name of the village of Skokie used to be 'Niles Center' which is how the street by that name got its name, and it cuts through at about 5100 west at that point. The parking area and the drive up window were completely abandoned at that point in time; I had originally gone by the restaurant entrance and saw a crew working inside there, but they waved me away saying they were closed, 'but drive through is open until midnight'. Going around to that side, then the rude lady waved me away saying she was not going to serve any pedestrians walking through. PAT] ------------------------------ From: lenagainster@gmail.com Subject: Re: Bank of America Delays Security Update Date: 5 Nov 2005 07:56:26 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Robert McMillan wrote: > The Bank of America's rollout of a stronger user authentication > technology has hit a snag Sure did AFAIC. Constantly asking me my secret question and telling me it doesn't recognize my computer. Same computer, no changes, same cookies. Don't particularly care for the fact that it uses my SSN for an ID. It's broke, and I'm stuck with it until BOA fixes it or until I can get all my direct deposits transferred to my other bank, where I have easy access and don't get constantly slammed with Yahoo-like ads. Bye -bye BOA. Lena ------------------------------ Subject: Re: AT&T Answering System 1309 - Need Help With Instructions From: Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:23:34 GMT Organization: Road Runner In article <telecom24.503.7@telecom-digest.org>, browny <njbraun@sirisonline.com> wrote: > I have misplaced my instructions for this unit (telephone answering > machine). Would like to use the REMOTE ACCESS feature and don't > recall how. Can anyone help me? I dug around the AT&T web site, and found manuals for most of their models. They didn't have the 1309 specifically, but they did have the 1306 and several others, which *might* be close enough to get you started. Take a look: http://telephones.att.com/telephones_ui/support/dsp_manuals_list.cfm#257 Garner R. Miller Clifton Park, NY =USA= http://www.garnermiller.com/ ------------------------------ From: Tony P. <kd1s.nospam@nospam.cox.nosapm.net> Subject: Re: Old Chicago Numbering Organization: Ace Tomato and Cement Co. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:46:02 -0500 In article <telecom24.499.15@telecom-digest.org>, JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com says: > On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:43:17 -0500, Tony P. > <kd1s.nospam@nospam.cox.nosapm.net> wrote: >> I do recall that they really stretched out the cutovers. My >> grandparents house in Providence still had the old style call progress >> tones indicating they were still on the Panel until 1975 or so. The CO >> for most of Providence is a huge building -- at least 14 floors that >> were once filled with switching gear. Now it's just the 4th floor. The >> rest of the building is offices. > I was in Providence in 1978 and my recollection is that they had mixed > ESS, panel and #1XB all working right next to each other. Another > interesting thing about Providence is evidently Providence was a 2L 4N > city originally since many of the exchanges in Providence have a one > after them like PLantations 1, ELmhurst 1 and so on. Yes I believe it did but in my time we had 7 digit. The only phone I'd ever seen with 2L1-4N was my grandparents 554 set. JAckson-1-4937. But I've seen old advertising materials for the Providence area that has 2L-4N numbers on it. Very interesting -- I knew that Panel an ESS were in existence at the same time but wasn't aware of the #1XB. ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecomm- unications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, Yahoo Groups, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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